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great idea Nep
great idea Nep
I will open a thread for it shortly....
Ah bugger, my place will be taken. Oh well, I'll just have to be a spectator.
For those of the people I like in the forums, places will be reserved for you
BTW - the thread is up, but in GD. I posted it in the wrong place :o
I've just updated 16 threads in the Sign-Up Guide to their new status - which is 'Abandoned'. That's not including those changed to 'Unknown', those relocated and those deleted from the list. All I can ask is that people think a little bit more before deciding to post a sign-up. It isn't a decision that should be made too lightly.
By the way, if you want your sign-up added to the list, PM me or post in the Mods Request Thread. Don't request it here as it isn't the place - I'm just posting this here to reach a wider audience.
Sounds great Nep, if I'm in I usually play as a LB
The Uncapped Challenge
To qualify for the World Cup, and then register a team for the finals with players that have never been capped.
Any nation is viable but obviously places like Brazil* & Argentina would be easiest.
A points system will be used.
Defender - 7
Midfielder - 5
Striker - 2
Defender - 5
Midfielder - 2
Striker -2
1st Cap - 5
1st Goal - 10
Golden Boot - 25
Win - 3
Draw - 1
Loss - 0 Just like the real thing
Basically putting this up as I need to complete the points list such as what to give for how far you reach and stuff.
So, thoughts/ideas/improvements?
*This team were the original team used for this idea which I completed on another forum for FM 05 or 06
However as said, it would take a phenomenal amount of editing and preparation, something I can't fully commit to at the moment. But I've thrown the idea out there so that its in the pipeline
iacovone, i enjoy playing around with the editor, so if the editing is what you can't commit to at the moment, then i am willing to help out with that, provided you tell me exactly what it is you want done as far as creating these teams is concerned.
PM me if interested.
a good challenge would be to take man city take al their starting eleven away spread them throughout the game and signa whole new first team.
I came up with an idea of a challenge when looking at MadWoodsters International Challenge and Azeryk's CSE Hall of Fame. In the hall of fame you have Dafuge's Challenge for English leagues, Gundo's and JoseRR's for European, Razer82's for South American and Rancer890's for Asian/African, but noticeably there is no small International team to big national team challenge and that is because of one reason, it is pretty much impossible. The smaller nations simply do not have the squad or the infrastructure in place to produce quality players for the future.
So that got me thinking "What would it take to take a small nation to World Cup glory?"
I've been doing a bit of AI experiment just to get things on the road, starting in the Iceland as they would be considered one of the more advanced nations outside the top 100 rankings (with typical facilities of the top Icelandic clubs being Youth = 10 and Training = 10). I monitored how regens developed over time using the teams standard facilities, I would run the league as normal and each year note down the maximum CA and PA (star player), 10th highest CA and PA(starting XI) and the 25th highest CA and PA (depth value).
Below are the regens and the progress they made over a five year period:
Iceland Standard Facilities
2011 Regens (initital)
Star Player (Max): 94/179
Starting XI (10th): 68/141
Depth (25th): 54/118
2011 Regens (2012)
Star Player: 94/179 (-)
Starting XI: 72/141 (+3)
Depth: 56/118 (+2)
2011 Regens (2013)
Star Player: 96/179 (+2)
Starting XI: 76/141 (+4)
Depth: 59/114 (+3)
2011 Regens (2014)
Star Player: 100/179 (+4)
Starting XI: 80/141 (+4)
Depth: 63/112 (+4)
2011 Regens (2015)
Star Player: 106/179 (+6)
Starting XI: 82/141 (+2)
Depth: 64/112 (+4)
Note highest CA and PA values may not necessarily be from the same player
I did this for 5 groups of youngsters, all with more than 200 players in each youth group and rather than overloading you with information the results were pretty consistant. The average increase in ability per year was 3.17 CA, even with some of the potential talent in the Icelandic youth ranks, it seems they will never have the facilities or standard of competition available to reach it and therefore the Iceland national team will struggle to improve. It is worth noting that the player with PA179 was the highest attained during the tests. It is also interesting to see that even some of the most gifted youngsters retire at an early age because they don't make it in the game, sometimes even struggling to find a team in the Icelandic lower league, 79.1% of the youngesters in the group of youths shown above had retired within 5 years, none ever got to play abroad.
So what standard to the team have to be at to reach the World Cup? Here is a look at the top clubs in Europe as well as some outsiders:
Note Depth value is set to 50th player as national pool much larger than annual group of regens
Now I know when I read threads with a bunch of numbers like that I generally skim read it, but to summarise the aim of the AI experiment should be to increase a nations facilities so that it should create regens somewhere in between the values of the outsider and top nations (at the very most - it should take years of pateince and persistance to find that golden era of a national team). It needs to be a difficult challenge, you might not think the "outsider nations" shown above are capable of winning a world cup but cast your eyes back to 2004 and Greece lifted the European Championship at odds as high as 150/1.
I decided to test what facilities generated which players (ie. looking at State of the Art all the way to Minimal) and without giving all the detail I arrived that "good" facilities (Youth = 14 and Training = 14) were ideal for generating medium to good potential players. I then ran another experiment with Guinea-Bissau, assigning these facilities to all 10 clubs in the nation and looked to see what effect it had on the national team over time.
Note regens only
As you can see the nations clubs generated a good array of potential talent, but increasing the standard of facilities was not enough to increase the players current abilities any more than the Icelandic regens, they were slightly less if anything. Only two players made it abroad, one which had the highest CA (108) but a PA of 144, the other had a CA/PA of 99/158, they went to Corinthians/Chicago and Tauro (Panama) respectively. It seems if the players are going to reach their potential they need to be playing regularly abroad, but even with the potential some factors like reputation hinder the chance of a dream move happening.
This is where I need further assistant in developing this experiment so I can create my World Cup challenge, next I will be using Lebanon in the Asian Region but changes will be have to be made to increase chance of a realistic long term World Cup goal.
Discussion points:
1. What changes will increase the likelyhood of players being transfered abroad (ie. Reputation)?
2. Is the current standard of regens coming through sufficient for a World Cup challenge or are better facilities needed?
3. Can clubs outside the playable leagues ever produce a high quality team?
4. Will editing a database (albeit very minor and easily explainable) be too complicated to get people taking up the challenge?
5. Some nations are unmanagable at the start, when can they become manageable (this will also be tested in the next AI Experiment)?
Any other comments would be appreciated.
This is a good idea Aedsler, i was messing about in the editor on my save, and gave Pakistan all brilliaant youngsters, still waiting to play a game though.
However to take a small nation without editing would be more or less impossible, e.g. can you even consider what it would take for Fiji to win the WC?
A good few years? Obviously it would be easier to do with nations that have a national league but the league isn't playable. Similar to San Marino really. Although they do have a club in a playable league
Also, any thoughts for my idea? I'd really like to get it going but I do need to complete the points table.
Just another mention of my experiment, I've had a bit more optimism from running it a bit longer, my goalkeeper who was at Corinthians and Chicago who then was unattached for six months has finally found a club, he's back in the MLS with New York and playing regularly and now valued at 110k. Also playing my hot prospect (176 PA) attacking left winger regularly in the national team from the age of 16 managed to attract interest from Spain, signing for Sevilla Athletico (B Team) and is now valued at 575k. There are still far too many premature retirements for my liking though, it would be helpful to know whether changing the league (can you do this?) or club reputation will increase the chances of an overseas transfer, it might also be worth putting one or two state of the art or better standard facilities in place to increase the chance of 'stand out' players over the years. Again, any comments would be appreciated.
Sounds like a great experiment anyway. Hope it goes well, will follow progress
Cheers for your thoughts on my challenge. It was a hard challenge. Although the easiest way to do it is let the AI qualify, take over then search for the uncapped ones
It'll be up some time this week if I complete the points system!
Sign up league anyone?
- 20 Spaces to replace premiership
- £40 Million each
- 8500 Reputation
- No Manager at each club
- Stadiums Are First Come First Serve eg Man Utd have largest so first person gets their stadium etc
- 1 Good Player Of Your Choice
- 2 Useless Players Of Your Choice
- 1 Under 18 Player Of Your Choice (excluding Bojan etc)
- 1 Injured Player at the start of the game
- 1 African Player of your choice
- 1 33yr+ Player of your choice
- Created Player with -10 Ability and 1 Stat Of your choice
The rest is luck.....
Aesler - One thing you could try is setting up the clubs from your chosen nation with feeder links to some European sides. I did it in my sign-up and it resulted in a few regens heading over to the Dutch league due to first option deals.
As for the unplayable nations, you have to wait a few seasons for a sufficient number of regens to come up for that national side to be playable. I'm not sure how many are needed exactly but it may well be over 50...
While I'm here, I have a couple of ideas to bounce around:
1) The Namesake Swop Experiment - this is a silly idea but could provide a fun short AI experiment. I've noticed a few South American clubs which are named after/share a name with British clubs (there is a Liverpool side in Uruguay, Arsenal in Argentina, Everton and Rangers in Chile) as well as clubs elsewhere (Newcastle in Australia and my personal fave Sheffield United in Hong Kong!). The expereiment would be to put those teams into the British leagues and send the British teams the other way. I'd then run the game to see how the teams cope with life in their new leagues (especially in regard to how they cope with foreigner limits and whether or not the big name players will stay or want to go back to Europe).
2) The Average Joe Sign-Up - inspired by the likes of Emile Heskey, Mathew Upson, Jason Wilcox and pretty much anyone who played for England under Graham Taylor, the aim of this sign up would be to create an 'average player' with decent stats and a good but not great PA and see if he can make it into the England side. Options could be given to enhance your prospects (starting at a top side with top facilities or a smaller club where first team exposure will come easily, being a utility player, strong mental stats, high ambition etc) and we would then track who makes it and who flounders.
DodgeeD -
Idea number 1 sounds both funny, however it would also be very interesting to see not only how the British teams do abroad, but how their namesake teams do in their place. Number 2 sounds like a good idea as well, and would definitely be a fresh and original sign up. Think I've seen something like it before, might just have been you mentioning it before though?
I like your first idea Dodgee . I should probably fill the rest of this post out with writing on how much I like it and what I would suggest but you've pretty much got it perfect from your description there. I'd certainly be interested.
There lower league legends one is the closest I can recall to the second idea. It was very interesting but unfortunately it was abandoned.
I like Idea 1 a lot, would certainly be very amusing to see some Hong Kong players failing miserably in the Championship!
I might experiment with the database a bit over the next couple of days for idea 1 then (I'm sure the game will crash several times before I get the swopping done right!)
All I would do is swop the teams: no changes to club rep, stadiums or playing/coaching staff would take place and leagues would be on full detail of course! Can Sheff Utnited dominate Asia?
Btw, if anyone can think of other candidates for the swop, let me know. One other possibility is to put Barcelona of Ecuador into La Liga!
It might be worth mentioning that I hate the word 'swop' . Although it is apparently the British equivalent of 'swap', I much prefer 'swap'.
nah its definitely swap here in Britain don't know where swop comes from
I'm sure it's swap, not swop. Could be wrong though
Which was the LOwer League Legends one? Don't remember it.
Wasn't there a show called 'swop shop'? That might be where it comes from
Beaten twice, wonderful
It would be called Domination
That's as far as I've got, and it would involve dominating
Is the 20/20 challenge still going? As I would like to do a challenge like that which invloves something like 5 challenges a week.
Dictionary Definition - it says that it is the chiefly British variant, which means that it isn't used in the USA but is only slightly more used here in the UK. I personally use 'swap', as could be inferred by my despisal of the word 'swop'. There was indeed a show called 'Swap Shop', which uses the a rather than the o.
Defender - 7
Midfielder - 5
Striker - 2
Defender - 5
Midfielder - 2
Striker -2
1st Cap - 5
1st Goal - 10
Win - 3
Draw - 1
Loss - 0
Win the Tournament - 500
Finalist - 250
Semi Finalist - 175
Quarter Finalist - 100
Top Scorer - 25
Best Player - 20
Goal of the Tournament - 20 for 1st, 10 for 2nd & 5 for 3rd
Best Goalkeeper - 15
Dream Team (Per player) - 2
Dream Team (All of them) - 50
That's the current points system. I'll set it up tomorrow some time around 4:00 p.m.
Suggest any changes if you have them
I've set up the following nations with youth and training facilities to 15 (note slight increase from previous standard):
New Zealand
El Salvador
These are the highest reputation teams of each region outside the top 100 (except Montenegro, but I didn't want to test Iceland again). All additional players have been added for each nation and I will holiday the game overnight (hopefully 10 years game time) to see what standard players they have produced and whether they have made much progress in major tournaments. It should provide some very useful info in setting up my 'Small nation World Cup challenge'.
For a good player i mean someone class like Aguero, Ibra etc
Maybe an ebay style sign up would be better so everyone signs up and gets a team then there is an auction style market where the sign up users have a set amount of say £150 million to build their club with Reputations, Stadiums, Managers, Players, Staff, Investment into the club (as budgets would be seperate to the club as it is your money being spent)
Only one person would be able to have a certain item at a time.
And the people who sign up can be outbid by other people and sell certain parts of their club to raise funds for another purchase.
Obviously Fmrte would be used to do this in game.
Auctions would occur at transfer windows and be the only way to sign the players you want.
Evil Auctions could start such as Next Opposition's Best Players Energy Drained Etc.
It would be like a chairman sign up I suppose but one where you have full control of everything.
Had a free morning so I swapped/swopped () some teams around in the database. I'm running a test for a couple of seasons to make sure there are no crashes. If there are no problems (doubt it ), I'll get the thread up sometime this week.
After holidaying overnight it got to the year 2018, just before the 2018 world cup, the 10 highest reputation teams were set to have youth and training facilities of 15.
Here are the results for all six teams:
Star Player (Max CA/PA): 174/179
Starting XI (10th value): 137/168
Depth (50th value): 110/147
No. of Regens: 226
Based Abroad: 37
World Cup:
2010 - Did not Qualify (3rd in quals - 10 points)
2014 - Did not Qualify (4th in quals- 15 points)
2018 - Did not Qualify (4th in quals - 11 points, 5 team group)
European Championship:
2012 - Did not Qualify (5th in quals - 13 points - 7 team group)
2016 - Did not Qualify (3rd in quals - 10 points - 5 team group)
Slight improvement, on the verge of sneaking a qualifying spot on a couple of occassions. Lots of youngsters coming through with potential.
Star Player (Max CA/PA): 134/152
Starting XI (10th value): 66/133
Depth (50th value): n/a
No. of Regens: 49
Based Abroad: 1
World Cup:
2010 - Did not Qualify (2nd in 3rd qual group phase - 9 points) Note: tournament had already begun before game
2014 - Did not Qualify (4th, last in the qual group in 3rd phase - 1 point)
2018 - Did not Qualify (3rd in the 3rd qual group phase - 7 points)
African Nations:
2010 - Qualified (4th in Group D - 1 point)
2012 - Did not Qualify (2nd in qual group by head-to-head record)
2014 - Did not Qualify (2nd in qual group - 13 points)
2016 - Did not Qualify (2nd in qual group - 13 points)
2018 - Qualified (3rd in Group C - 1 point)
There has been a distinct lack of regens coming through and that must amount to the lack of progress. The reason may be that I am only running the English Premier League as running an experiment with Guinea-Bissau before brought more talent through the youth academies.
Star Player (Max CA/PA): 151/180
Starting XI (10th value): 137/159
Depth (50th value): 104/141
No. of Regens: 103
Based Abroad: 21
World Cup:
2010 - Did not Qualify (already eliminated)
2014 - Did not Qualify (Lost in the final playoff to New Zealand 4-2 on agg [2-2 away in the first leg])
2018 - Qualified (Sweet revenge for Kuwait, beating New Zealand in the playoff final 6-4 on agg to reach the World Cup!)
Asian Cup:
2011 - Qualified (3rd in group - 3 points)
2015 - Qualified (4th in group - 2 points)
2019 - Qualified (to be played)
It will be interesting to see how Kuwait fair in the World Cup, they have shown real progress in getting there and some of their players play all over the world at clubs including Nice, Heerenveen, Braga, AZ and LA Galaxy.
Jamaica, New Zealand and El Salvador to follow...
PS. I didn't intend to write this much, should of done a thread really but I don't intend to carry it on after this, hopefully I can start a challenge....
Star Player (Max CA/PA): 163/193
Starting XI (10th value): 111/157
Depth (50th value): 72/130
No. of Regens: 159
Based Abroad: 12
World Cup:
2010 - Did not Qualify (Lost in playoff final, cruelly losing 4-3 on agg to Columbia)
2014 - Did not Qualify (5th in third phase qual group, 3 points off a playoff spot)
2018 - Did not Qualify (3rd in second phase qual group)
North America Gold Cup: (no qualifiers)
2009 - 3rd in group stage
2011 - 3rd in group stage
2013 - Semi Final (lost 1-0 to USA)
2015 - Quarter Final
2017 - Quarter Final (knocked out by Mexico for the second time running)
There is a decent amount of quality coming through, encouraging results in the Gold cup and they narrowly missed out on a World Cup place. It is interesting to see that "good (15)" facilities can produce such high quality players (PA 193) meaning that there is a chance all smaller nations can develop a wonder kid at some point over the years. It is noticeable that there is a lack of players reaching their potential, probably because they struggle to find a club away from Jamaica.
New Zealand
Star Player (Max CA/PA): 148/193
Starting XI (10th value): 134/163
Depth (50th value): 84/140
No. of Regens: 156
Based Abroad: 25
World Cup:
2010 - Did not Qualify (Lost in playoff final to Iran)
2014 - Qualified (Finished 4th in group, without a win)
2018 - Did not Qualify (Lost in playoff final to Kuwait)
OCE Nations Cup: (no qualifiers)
2010 - Winners
2012 - Winners
2014 - Winners
2016 - Winners
2018 - Winners
The lack of sucess from the national team has often been pinpointed to the poor domestic league in New Zealand. Improving the facilities has increased the potential talent massively, attracting interest from clubs all over Europe. They still really struggled on the big stage, winning the OCE Cup couldn't really be called an achievement as their previous rivals Australia now play in Asia so the finals were contested against Tahiti and Vanuatu.
El Salvador
Star Player (Max CA/PA): 175/183
Starting XI (10th value): 135/170
Depth (50th value): 108/148
No. of Regens: 166
Based Abroad: 22
World Cup:
2010 - Did not Qualify (An unlucky draw against Mexico in the First Phase 2nd Rnd saw them eliminated)
2014 - Qualified (4th in group, nil pwa)
2018 - Qualified (3rd in main qual group, Finals to be contested)
North America Gold Cup: (no qualifiers)
2009 - Semi Final (lost to USA 2-0)
2011 - Semi Final (lost to Mexico 1-0)
2013 - Quarter Final (lost to Jamaica 1-0)
2015 - Semi Final (lost to Mexico 2-0)
2017 - Quarter Final (knocked out by USA 2-1)
El Salvador have been the suprise package of this experiment and have given the most hope that a small nation can improve way beyond their expectations. Three players now make the first team in the Premier League, with many others dotted around Europe. Some great performances in the Gold Cup, it will be interesting to see how they do in this world cup as another whitewash could mean changes need to be made.
Before making any conclusions I am going to go watch the World Cup to see how Kuwait and El Salvador get on.
Maybe you should do an experiment thread on this. It looks good
Cheers for the help too
Hope you sort it Dodgee
And now for my one and only plug for my challenge (Bar my location )
Hope you manage to fix it!
For the record, Kuwait and El Salvador both failed to make it out the group stage, getting one point each but both deserved more. El Salvador matched Brazil and if they hadn't of given two stupid penalties away they could have got something from the game. They also led twice against Switzerland but against saw defeat from a needless penalty. I think the level of difficulty is about right, after all the regens are only 27 at most (its 2018) so some have yet to reach their peak. Plus if the AI can qualify then I'm sure us tactical geniuses can get all the way to the final.
Just running a test on how smaller nations fair compared to the ones in the last test...
Might be a month till I put the experiment up though as I'm off to Australia for a couple weeks at the beginning of April
Hey guys am thinking of doing a sign up, my first one, be gentle
all players and staff released from Welsh Premier clubs, Stadiums, Rep and Finances all increased
People sign up to be chairmen of a club, and chose from a list of players to make a team, also added into this list are 36 welsh 20 year olds (2 per club) all with a CA/PA of 200 and all stats set to 20, obviously these will be reduced by the game. Managers will be selected by random for each team
what do you guys think?
Last edited by Swafe; 19-03-2009 at 02:13.
I would say lower the CA and not make them all stats at 20
what CA would you recommend? and any ideas on the stats then?
Well, are you looking for these teams to be powerhouse immediately or to have them rise through the ranks?
I would have the CA at 100, 150 only if you want hem to be very good from the start.
I would either let each user choose some stats and randomize the rest, or ust randomize all of them (setting the values to 0 in the editor). If each person gets two, then that shouldn't be much of an effort for the people signing up.
I like the idea though
Ha you don't stand a chance Des
My idea is fairly complicated, so please be patient as I try to explain.
The crux of my idea is to answer a simple question:
What is the key to success?
Let me explain;
12 individuals (users of the forums) will be tasked with creating a club, but these will be no ordinary clubs, they will be clubs which have been set up by billionaires but with conditions restricting the initial outlay on each club and forbidding future investment by them as they see their teams progress.
The billionaires have agreed to choose facets of the club they wish to concentrate on and these will be from across 8 areas. They will have 65 "points" to assign, with a maximum of 20 points assigned in any one area with the proviso that they must assign 20 points to at least one area and every area, apart from the draft, must have one point assigned to it. 65 points was chosen as it allows maxing out three areas with the minimum of 1 in the other five areas.
They can assign points to the following areas:
Fan Support
Training Facilities
Youth Development
Chairman's Ability
Manager's Skill
Any points they choose to leave over will go into the category "Draft", the person with the highest points left over in "Draft" will choose first in the player draft. Tiebreakers are settled by pot luck, with teams that are tied alternating positions to change who chooses first.
The player draft features 72 players, with each team having six picks. These players will vary in skill and each player will have a screenshot together with a grade which will give an indication of their future potential.
The teams will all start at the bottom teir of English football, six assigned to the Blue Square North, six assigned to the Blue Square South. Each team will need to be based in England (or Wales) and have a relatively realistic name. (Real London FC - acceptable, Poole Bandits - acceptable, Frazza's Footballers - not acceptable)
Points assigned will give the following results:
Reputation - Each point adds 150 to the club's reputation, which starts at 500. The maximum is therefore 3,500.
Stadium - Each point adds 750 seats to the capacity of the stadium, the start point is a 1,000 capacity stadium.
Fan Support - Each point assigned gives an average attendance increase of 1,000, there is no starting point. Maximum average attendance is 20,000
Finances - Each point leads to £200,000 in the bank balance at the start, with 25% of the bank balance assigned to transfer budget. Maximum bank balance is £4,000,000.
Training Facilities - Each point increases the training facilities by the corresponding amount. The maximum 20 would give world class training facilities.
Youth Development - Same as training points wise, 20 would give excellent youth facilities plus a youth academy
Chairman's Ability - Each point assigned increases the ability of the Chairman by 20, maximum of 200.
Manager's Skill - Each point increases the ability of the Manager by 20, maximum of 200.
Here's the rub, participants, before the draft occurs, but after they've chosen their club attributes, can trade with others to move up or down the draft board and or to acquire draft picks. Furthermore, they can trade up to 15 points of their attributes, taking the corresponding hit to their club's attributes. The trades would need to be agreed by both parties and sent to me by PM.
Each stadium's expansion capacity will be triple their starting capacity plus 12,000.
The players, managers, and chairman would be set as loving the club, have maximum confidence, and be given long contracts. Each player will start as an 18 year old with minimal initial reputation and ambition of 11, the managers start at the age of 40 with minimal reputation to increase the likelihood of them staying. The Chairman will be set to love the clubs they are at.
The benefits of strategies would then be assessed in the updates which will hopefully go on for at least 10 game years.
Maxing out fan attendance and stadium capacity may lead to problems if the fans drift away after no initial success and high maintenance costs of looking after the stadium, alternatively, the revenue generated by the fans, and the need not to expand capacity would prevent incurring expensive redevelopment costs that would see money eaten up and loans taken out.
Each strategy has benefits and pitfalls, going the average route may see those who were more aggressive in certain areas succeed initially, or perhaps longer term.
A scoring system would be in place for each club based on the league their in with points awarded according to reputation for staying in the league.
Points of the competition are doubled for winning it, and promotion garners the points of the league the team is promoting to. (Thus the winners of the Blue Square Premier would get double the BSP's rep, plus the rep of League Two that season).
The objective is to see which strategy is the most successful long term, investing in the stadium, providing finances, investing in staff, building a reputation, or investing in players through either youth and training, or the draft.
Now obviously, that's not all fully fleshed out or explained, but I see potential pitfalls for me, like how to conduct the draft, whether to allow Chairman and Manager attributes to be chosen.
I really like it, mikeytwigge did something similar for South America, but I really like the different aspects of this one. Would definately be interested!
I like the sound of this
Forgot to add that when you choose your manager you can set his playing style, marking type, formation etc
Draft could be done on the forum, or via MSN, or via prearranged lists etc.
Oh, and people choose their kits, colours, stadium name, names of Chairman and managers etc.
Last edited by Wegason; 19-03-2009 at 14:02.
I wouldn't be able to do it via MSN, I think it would be easiest through the forum, maybe in a separate thread?
MSN is a no-no for me as well... When are you planning on setting this up?? It looks fb
Wegason that sounds quality
MSN would also be a no-go but then that assumes I'm one of the 12 anyway
Which is a massive hint by the way! Seriously, quality stuff Wegason, you've put a great amount of effort and thought into this
Last edited by iacovone; 19-03-2009 at 15:08.
Looks like a great idea Wegason.
Like everyone else, no MSN please, but I probably won't participate since I'm already involved in a lot of signups already...and time zone troubles of course. I live close to the icon. (May I request a Canadian icon SI )
Good luck with that idea, looks like quality.
I was thinking about doing an experiment where I would test whether developing in an area with extreme conditions would affect the development of a player. Would anyone be interested if I were to start now?
so would i
iavocone, I don't know if maybe you missed it because of the spamming from Aesler, but I would be willing to create your database for you and upload it s that it can be conducted properly. I enjoy messing around with the editor. I would just need to know exactly what it is you need done.
I wouldn't call it spamming, admittedly it deserves its own thread, but its not spamming.
Not necessarily spamming, but that was the first word that came to my head when I was writing.
Wegason, I'd take part in your challenge.
Wegason - in no way a criticism, but it sounds a bit like the 'Dragon's Den' sign up I ran in FM08 (on and off....for a while) with added bells and whistles such as picking players, which is no bad thing. Not sure if you saw it.
One problem I found was getting much interaction/banter going...beyond commenting on your own team, seems a struggle to say much else. Might just be something to think about, sounds good though.
I was thinking about setting up an experiment about seeing if one team can revolve around one player as in give the 6 highest CA players to the 6 lowest predicted teams in the BSN and BSS. What does everyone think about that? Suggestions are welcome.
Maybe a challenge on that you can only call up to 1 player from every club for internationals.
The sign up for that was really entertaining it must be said. I just didn't have time to finish it off, draw any conclusions about how people's choices had affected things, etc...plus as I say there was a bit of a lack of interation, which was a shame.
Wegason - tbf if similiar ideas to existing CSEs were banned we'd be pretty low on numbers, go for it, I don't see the problem unless you were running it the same time
Yeah I agree with roberto, some of the best sign-ups are built on previous peoples ideas
And the one that you're running has been brilliant so far and I think you're something like the 4th user to try it
I've come up with a pretty good idea of an experiment.
The idea is... Nazis vs. Communists!
One team "Nazi Brigade FC" has replaced the Lowest Rep team in German Third Division. Then there's their rival team "Communist Party FC" that has replaced the lowest rep team of Russian First Division (second tier). Yes, there's an advantage for Communists, but part of the experiement is to see if Hitler's super motivational, discipline, and man management skills will make a difference. Yes, Hitler has come back to life. Don't ask how, just know he's ready to conquer the footballing world. On the Communist Party, we have Stalin as manager with Lenin as his assistant. Not as good as Hitler in motivating, etc. but still very very good.
There's a few objectives to this experiment:
1. Who will suceed? Nazis or Communists. Or will both fail due to lack of footballing knowledge back in WW1 and WW2?
2. Can Hitler or Stalin use their country leading skills and turn them into managerial skills?
3. Will the personality of Hitler be the same in the game? He can motivate a crowd and force his underlings to listen, but his temper and lack of professionalism could get him in trouble.
If there's any Nazis or Communists you want to see in the game, make a shout. I've already got a good idea of a Communists team, since there are so many countries with Communist leaders that can fill up a starting 11. But Nazis will be harder.
Do a google search of the German War crimes trials (Nurenburg?) and there were at least some big names there.
You can't go wrong with Franco and Mussolini... Maybe call them Fascists instead?
Hindenburg and Goebbels potentially for the Nazi's, van der Lubbe for the Communists?
How about adding Che Guevera as the communist's flair Argentine AMC?
Trotsky will have to go into the communists! Small and very intelligent but arrogant. Could make an interesting player.
how many people would be interested in taking part in a WW-Oceania sort of sign up if I was to start one. I still need to ask WW first, but it would be fairly different with it based on CSE taking over Mediocre European Nations (e.g - Denmark, Austria, Switzerland) etc. Although I haven't really given any detail at all in this bit, these would be my plans -
Plan A - We have 15 CEO's, all of which I'd want to be regulars because I'd be looking to make the CEO position a LOT more involving concentrating not only on the Nations performance in International competition but also the clubs* performance in the Champions League and Europa League, through which the CEO's would earn points. There would also be 1 or 2 (depending on interest) created players for each Nation which users that didn't get to be CEO's would create.
* - Instead of WW's idea of putting the Oceanic clubs in the Scottish Leagues, the CEO's would be editing the stats of the top 4 clubs from their chosen Nation (e.g Sweden would be - IFK Goteborg, AIK, Malmo FF & Elfsborg)
It's just an idea at the moment (why I'm posting it here), but I thought I'd post to see what sort of interest I'd be getting.
Sounds interesting Hopefully you can make it work.
Cue debate over which European nations can be classed as 'mediocre'
Sounds good Paul - I'd definitely be interested.
Paul by definition then the communist framed in the Reichstag Fire could be included because if it wasn't for him being found in there Hitler couldn't have blamed the Commies and persuade Hindenburg to pass the laws allowing Hitler to basically eliminate the Communists and gain the majority of the Reichstag leading to the enabling law.
Hindenburg was uncomfortable with the Nazis, he only made Hitler chancellor because Von Popen was desperate to get some semblance of power so he persuaded him.
IMO Nazis there has to be the likes of Hitler, Himmler, Roehm, Goering, Goebbels could be in the Nazis, although obviously Roehms power was kinda cut down
Communists you've got plenty of choice, Stalin, Lenin etc. Plenty of strong communists to choose from.
Great idea btw
i'd be very interested
I've pm'ed WW about it, and if we get the all clear then I will go ahead and plan with more detail
Paul, I would definitely be interested in taking part in that sign-up, and would hopefully get a CEO spot, but would just be happy to participate.
Hi all, is there any way of viewing the threads that were deleted in 'The Big Change'?
I wasn't registered back then, but I remember there being a challenge about a FourFourTwo article or something? I remember it being good anyways, and wanted to try it
Oh yeah! Wasn't it to do with making an all English team with a team they had chosen?
EDIT: Dafuge has it right
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I remember the thread you are thinking of, it was by Ackter and was something to do with ages and nationalities of players in Champions League winning teams. Unfortunately I can't remember much more than that.


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TDOT is currently restructuring 25-E located in front of our Morristown Campus.
Related to the TDOT construction on U.S. Highway 25-E and the perimeter road at the Morristown campus, the temporary one-way road located next to the softball field that runs from College Square Mall toward the Morristown campus will be closed permanently tomorrow (Sept. 15). The traffic signal at the intersection of this road will be removed. Also tomorrow, the one-way road connecting College Square Mall with Retail Road will revert to a two-way road.
Walters State has received notification from the Morristown Police Department that effective Monday, Oct. 20, 2014, the access roadway connecting the Morristown campus and the Oak Hills Subdivision will be closed.
TDOT will be changing the traffic pattern beginning Wednesday, Sept 10, 2014.Please drive safely.
TDOT will be setting the support beams for the bridge that will connect the main Morristown campus to College Park Drive next week, March 10-15. Daytime traffic should not be affected during the construction. Below is the construction schedule provided by TDOT related to the bridge work:
On Monday, Nov. 18, the Tennessee Department of Transportation plans to open two one-way streets connecting the College Square Mall perimeter road with Retail Road. This includes opening a new one-way road connecting the College Square Mall perimeter road with Retail Road. The new road is located next to the college's softball field. Traffic on this road will flow one way toward the college. Also, the existing Mall Road will become a one-way road with vehicles travelling toward the mall from the college.
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The entrance connecting the Morristown campus and the Oak Hills Subdivision has been re-opened effective Monday, Aug. 26. This entrance is located behind the Clifford "Bo" Henry Center for Business and Technology.
Due to the major TDOT construction project on Highway 25E (Davy Crockett Parkway), students and visitors to the campus are encouraged to arrive early and anticipate delays. When entering and exiting the Morristown Campus, follow the directional signage and be alert for TDOT construction workers. Also, please note the speed limit posted in the TDOT construction zone and on the WSCC campus. The yellow arrows on the following TDOT map indicate the routes leading to and from the Morristown campus. The lanes shown in red represent future routes once the project is completed in the fall of 2014.
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TDOT has planned a traffic pattern switch on 25E for Friday, May 17. The switch will include moving the existing 25E northbound traffic over to newly constructed lanes adjacent to the current 25E southbound lanes. The map provided by TDOT (see below) indicates the new traffic pattern, which is denoted with yellow arrows. The lanes shown in red represent future routes once the project is completed in the fall of 2014.
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Please be advised that TDOT has planned a major traffic pattern switch on US 25E to occur on the morning of Friday, May 10. Signage will be posted indicating the new routes.
The traffic pattern switch will move the existing 25E southbound (toward I-81) traffic over to the newly constructed southbound lanes. Included in this traffic pattern switch will be the closure of College Park Drive to the Wal-Mart shopping center. All traffic to the Wal-Mart shopping center will use the existing Retail Road entrance.
Also, 25E northbound (toward Tazewell) traffic will not be able to turn left into the campus via the temporary college entrance (across from Zaxby's). Access to the campus from the 25E northbound lane will be at the College Square Mall road entrance. However, 25E southbound traffic will be able enter the campus by turning right at the temporary entrance. The temporary entrance will also be open for traffic leaving the campus and turning right onto 25E South.
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TDOT plans to reopen the U.S. Highway 25-E Morristown Campus south entrance/exit (located across from Zaxby's) this afternoon. It and the 25-E north (College Square Mall) entrance should both be open for the first day of spring-semester classes tomorrow.
For the safety of our students, staff and visitors, every effort is being made to maintain traffic flow on the Morristown campus in manner that prevents prolonged delays for vehicles accessing the campus from the 25-E highway construction zone. Student lots D and E are currently available for parking near the tennis courts. However, it will be necessary during the first week of classes for students to travel past student lots Q, R and P and continue around the back of the campus to access student lots D and E. From time to time throughout the semester, Lot D may be closed due to construction. However, signs will clearly indicate that the lot is closed. For your safety please arrive early and anticipate delays.
There are two entrances to the Morristown campus from Highway 25-E. The new north entrance connects to the College Square Mall road from 25-E. Just south of this entrance at the next traffic light is another entrance. This one connects to the Morristown Campus perimeter road. So if you are traveling south on 25-E (toward I-81) then you can access the campus at the first two traffic lights on 25-E. If you're traveling north toward Tazewell then you can enter at either the second or third traffic lights.

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ALBANY—In signing a sweeping new set of gun laws Tuesday a month after the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, Gov. Andrew Cuomo tackled an issue the Democratic Party had avoided for more than a decade and put himself in an unusual spot as an object of Republican fury.
Democrats hailed Mr. Cuomo's aggressive gun-control push, citing it as an example of a muscular brand of politics that the governor has made his signature in two years in office. He has bent a Legislature partially controlled by Republicans to his will on other liberal issues, such as legalizing gay marriage and solidifying higher tax rates for the wealthy.
But Mr. Cuomo's efforts on firearms, coming so soon after a national tragedy and on an issue that Democrats had long ago ceded to the GOP, reignited speculation that he would seek the presidency in 2016 and may have positioned him more favorably with liberal primary voters.
"You've seen him play offense, in a way Democrats typically have not done on the gun-control issue," said Chris Lehane, a Democratic political strategist who has worked for former President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore. "He's a no-huddle governor: He scores points before the other players can even get off the line."
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New York's new gun laws represented a more overtly partisan victory for Mr. Cuomo than his previous achievements. No Republican leaders joined him at the bill signing in the Capitol's ornate Red Room. And for the first time in the governor's tenure, he endured sustained, sometimes furious criticism from GOP lawmakers who said the laws were rushed through.
"Why are we being bullied into voting on this bill?" asked Assemblyman Steve Katz, a Republican who represents parts of Westchester and Putnam counties. Sen. Greg Ball, a Republican from Putnam County north of New York City, said: "The only life that may have been helped by this bill is the political life of Andrew Cuomo on the national stage."
Mr. Lehane said the governor's gun-control efforts would play well with Democratic primary and general election voters. But Dave Carney, a New Hampshire Republican strategist who worked for former President George H.W. Bush, said Mr. Cuomo may have overdone it for moderates. "He reached a bridge too far and too quick," said Mr. Carney.
A savvy, sometimes cautious politician, Mr. Cuomo had cultivated close ties with Albany's Republicans, especially in the Senate where the GOP has traditionally held power. But Republicans lost their majority this year and share power with a group of breakaway Democrats, allowing Mr. Cuomo more room to move to the left.
Mr. Cuomo, whose approval ratings have polled above 70% since superstorm Sandy, characterized the gun debate as a battle he was happy to join. "We are fighting back," he said. "We can strike back and we can defend ourselves, but we're going to do it intelligently."
Mr. Cuomo was, according to people involved with negotiations, eager to be the nation's first governor to sign new gun laws after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in neighboring Connecticut. The accord also put him in front of President Barack Obama, who is set to announce his gun-control initiatives on Wednesday.
A senior Cuomo administration official said the governor had long supported gun control and seized the opportunity after the Newtown shootings provided popular support for new laws. Mr. Cuomo believes he can move the Legislature on almost any issue that has popular support, the official said.
The last major Democratic gun-control initiative came under Mr. Clinton—Mr. Cuomo's former boss—in 1993, with the passage of a federal ban on some military-style rifles. That statute has since lapsed.
Mr. Cuomo's style stands in stark contrast to his counterpart and fellow Democrat in Connecticut, Gov. Dannel Malloy, who is weighing new firearms restrictions and an overhaul of the mental-health system. Mr. Malloy congratulated Mr. Cuomo on Tuesday, but said he would take a more deliberative approach.
"Given what our state has gone through, and given the expressed desire of parents at Sandy Hook specifically to be involved in the process, I'm not envious of how rapidly they are moving," Mr. Malloy said. "We are in a different situation where it's important that we give an opportunity for multiple voices to be heard and then act."
The breadth of the New York legislation impressed gun-control advocates and dismayed its opponents. The new laws classify more semiautomatic rifles as so-called assault weapons, requires many gun owners to renew their licenses every five years, increases the regularity of background checks and makes it illegal to own ammunition magazines with more than seven rounds. It also included a mental-health component, expanding a law that requires some seriously mentally ill people to get treatment and requiring psychiatrists and other providers to report patients who may be dangers to themselves or others.
Some gun-control advocates said the legislation gave New York the nation's most stringent firearms laws. "He didn't pull back at all and end up with a weak bill," said Richard Aborn, president of the Citizens' Crime Commission, a nonprofit criminal-justice policy group.
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Social networking, in some form or another, has been around for as long as man. It's not hard to imagine cave dwellers who shared a common bond gathering together for a conversation about the day's events - even if grunting and elaborate charades was the only means of communication.
Perhaps the first person to identify and label a form of social networking was Auguste Comte back in 1853. He observed that one person in a certain social system were interconnected with others in the same system.
It was an observation way ahead of its time, and good old Auguste didn't even have a modem.
Wikipedia, the online mecca for information both accurate and questionable, defines a modern social network as: A social structure which, in general, facilitates communication between a group of individuals or organizations, that are related by one or more specific types of interdependency, such as: a special or common interest; shared values; visions, ideas, or perhaps ideals; financial exchange, friendship, kinship, dislike, conflict or trade.
Auguste was, indeed, way ahead of the curve. But since this column is more about technology, let's fast forward more than a few decades and all the way to the 1970s.
Other than just disco, which is the best invention man (or woman) ever created, folks started piecing together integrated circuits and a bunch of wires to make their own, early, personal computers.
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"Ning" allows anyone to make a social network about anything.
The great feature about Ning is that a person with little to no web design abilities can easily set up their own social network complete with blogs, photos, videos, chatting and more.
Let's say, for instance, the local garden club wants to keep in touch, share pictures of their floral creations and advertise community events. Ning would allow these members, who all share the same interests, to have a nice little home on the Internet. Members could keep up with one another and the Web site could attract members of the public who might find some interest with the group's happenings.
Many individuals, groups and companies are already taking advantage of Ning's services. Thousands of social networks powered by Ning have cropped up since its inception in 2004. If you are a soon-to-be bride, into zombies or still have a crush on The New Kids on the Block, there's home for you on Ning.
And if you want to start your own social network, being able to have your own brand, your members, your multimedia and your content is a great way to make a home on the Internet.
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Trying to find a way to communicate over standard telephone lines, a couple of kids in the Chicago area found a marriage between hardware and software for the first bulletin board system. The modem allowed data transfer from one point to another.
Hobbyists all over the world started to create their own BBS systems and users would dial into the centralized computer to share files, post messages and create new software.
As the young hobbyists grew older, they recognized a possible business opportunity. CompuServe and America Online came to the forefront in the 1980s, and file sharing, e-mail and data transfers became more and more popular. Groups of like-minded computer users would often create their own chat rooms inside the online communities.
As the Internet boom continued, the ideas took another leap forward. Instead of creating a chat room or social network inside AOL or CompuServe, the idea of using a dedicated Web site was born. Yahoo! and a host of other services hit the scene in the 1990s and Yahoo! Groups became a gathering place for many.
Technology, however, marches on. Most consider classmates.com as one of the forerunners in the emerging online social networking presence. People could log on, create a profile, search for long-lost classmates and renew old acquaintances.
Since classmates.com was an almost instant success, others joined the virtual world in rapid succession. Sites such as Friendster, LinkedIn, Skyblog, MySpace all started between 2000 and 2004.
Facebook came along in 2004 as a Harvard-only service but was so popular and well-loved on campus that it expanded rapidly. It became open to the general public in 2006.
Online social networks became a big business. Some consider the Flickr photo sharing site and its video equivalent, YouTube, as other avenues for social networking.
There remains one constant - technology continues to evolve.
In 2006, Twitter has found its own voice.
According to company officials, Twitter is a service for friends, family, and co-workers to communicate and stay connected through the exchange of quick, frequent messages. People write short updates, often called "tweets" of 140 characters or fewer. These messages are posted to a profile or a blog, sent to followers, and searchable on Twitter search.
It's a long way from Auguste Comte's original observations in the 1850s, but if he lived in today's world, perhaps he'd be tweeting his ideas - 140 characters at a time.
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How much is Classical Hebrew (in which the Hebrew Bible is written) is different from the modern Hebrew? In which areas lie the main differences? Can any Jew or Israeli today understand what is written in the Hebrew Bible freely or he needs a special training for that? Can anyone, please, provide here an overview?
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The Classical Hebrew is more compact than modern Hebrew. The are no redundant words in Torah, hence you can see usage of "ובלכתך" instead of "כאשר אתה תלך" and alike.
A Jew (even not a religious one) can understand most parts of the Torah without special training. More problematic parts are description of offerings with much details of how and where each type of offering should be done.
Also poetic parts like Song of Sea and Haazinu are relatively hard to understand.
Source: personal impression.
Another difference is that classical Hebrew generally uses a VSO word order (verb, subject, object), while modern Hebrew is generally SVO. As an example, the common phrase in the Torah, וידבר ה' אל משה, would literally translate as "and He spoke, G-d, to Moses"; a modern Hebrew speaker would probably say something like ה' דיבר אל משה.
for a proper overview I would probably send you to Hebrew wikipedia, but I'm guessing you (and most readers) are English speakers, so instead read: Revival Of the Hebrew Language on wikipedia.
As a side note I'll add, as a native (Israeli) Hebrew speaker that an incredibly great majority of the Hebrew Bible is readily understandable with no further sources. As other answers point out several parts are harder to understand with particular examples which pop to mind:
Hope that helps


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@englishchannel: Great that you linked this review. Just last week a few of us were trying to make wooters aware of the pitfalls in buying this crap. One of the things we all mentioned were tuning issues. If you can not get a proper tune or keep one in tune they are useless. Notice the guy states it has those issues and has since brand new. This thing is only good for wall art and not really all that much for that either.
Do yourself a favor and put just a little more money up front and get something that you can really play and enjoy. Go up a notch new or used.
What if I were to add this as a 2nd guitar for the game Rocksmith? Keeping in tune is not an issue as you are required to check you tune before every song.
It is garbage...simple...
@charliecarroll: As a guitar player for 35 years now (and a professional musician for 12 of those years)...I wholehearted agree with charliecarrol.
A guitar (or any instrument for that matter) that won't stay in tune is essentially worthless. If you're a beginner to the guitar it's even more vital that you have one that will stay in tune. As you're training your ear to recognize the notes it's critical that what you're playing be in tune so you establish the foundations that will carry you throughout your musical journey.
If you're considering this deal...do yourself a favor...go to the local music store where every you live and buy yourself the best used guitar you can afford. Your band mates will thank you for it.
@offline999: What about as a game controller for Rocksmith?
I get the 'fact' that if I were to buy this to go on stage or learn guitar, that I would be better off getting some rubber bands and a cardboard box with my PC mic, or fishing string, a block of wood and an PC mic would be twice as good, or dental floss and my teeth, but it seems like a good choice for a game controller.
@thedogma: Yes, I understand that playing this thing is totally out of the question but smashing it, why not burn it?
Can anyone comment on the Rocksmith and Rockmaster combo?
What about as a training guitar for a 15 year old girl who's never played?
@kle11az: I'm not familiar with the Rocksmith game so I'm not sure but if you'd have to tune it after every song I could see that getting annoying fairly quickly.
On the other hand...it could make a great sacrifice to the guitar gods as a smash & burn. The last guitar I sacrificed, my band mates and I did it at night and took some amazing low-light pictures of us "playing" the flaming guitar with blurry streaks of flame as we flailed around.
@kle11az: As someone who had to learn on the Sears catalog guitar I got for Christmas in 1976 I can't stress enough how frustrating it was, as a beginner, to struggle with an inferior instrument. If you think the 15 year-old is serious about learning the guitar, do her the favor of getting her a "good" one (it doesn't have to be "great")
On the other hand...if you're hoping to encourage her to stay in school, go to college, get a good job and have a profitable career then maybe this is just the instrument to "discourage" her rock-star ambitions.
I got this bundle from BestBuy a while back for $50 to use with Rocksmith. Seems to work fine although I do have to re-tune it every now and then. The E-string always seems to be a little flat though no matter what I do.
I've been around guitars for 10 years or so, but never actually learned how to play. So, I bought one of the purple Rockmasters to play along with Rocksmith on the Xbox 360 and I'm completely satisfied. I know none of these guitars are for a stage, I get that, but if you're wanting to learn, these are great to start; especially if you don't have a lot of money or don't want to spend a lot of money on something you're not sure you're going to stick with.
The amp IS crap, though, and I knew it was going to be. I used it for a second to make sure the guitar worked out of the box.
If you want a cheap starting point, buy one of these, but don't be fooled into thinking that you're getting a great guitar for a cheap price.
ALSO: The guitar has not come out of tune once since I opened it and started playing it. Others may have issues with this, but I have not.
You would be doing the 15 year old a disservice as he would be training on junk. Kind of like giving a young person that is 'thinking' about entering track, a pair of defective running shoes that won't stay on his/her feet.
@offline999: My bet is if you got yours from sears back then it was a "Silvertone" brand guitar. You are right, they were not really all that great but here is what is really bad about what is being sold here. That Silvertone, if it was one, came out of the box much, much, better than this thing. So, you could have done worse. You could have had something like this. BTW, I had a Silvertone myself. The case served as an amplifier also. Not much at sound but it would stay in tune.
FYI My 15yr old wanted a guitar and Wooters insisted do not buy the cheap one, so I gave a $300 guitar to a 15 year old that wanted one so bad.
So 10 months of gathering dust in his room I confiscated it to use on Rocksmith. Rocksmith has 2 player mode perhaps my 13 year old would like to play 2 player with the $50 one.
Now that I think about it I could have got the $50 guitar to gather dust in his room, naw I am sure the $300 guitar gathers dust much better then the $50 guitar.
@caffeine_dude: Regulations, man. You can't burn anything on stage anymore.
A drunk guy catches fire ONE time...
@aedwards13: It's very unlikely that the guitar hasn't gone out of tune ever since you got the guitar. As strings get played and age, they stretch out (or if it's cold out, they shrink). No matter what guitar you have, you'll have to re-tune every now and then. The issue isn't having to re-tune, the issue is having to re-tune often because your guitar will not stay in tune.
@squirrelhunter70: Oh, I understand that, but I'm also talking a matter a few days (I received it Monday, Dec. 17) since first being tuned. Sorry I didn't make that disclaimer in my original post. Admittedly, it's possible I may pick it up tonight and it be out of tune. People are talking like they're having tuning issues every time it's picked up, and I'm not doubting that, but I haven't.
You hear all the same negativity about all inexpensive instruments. As a horn player, I can play anything in my repertoire on the bright blue $40 trumpet Amazon sells just as well as I can on the near-priceless family heirloom I use in concert. Does it sound as good? No. Is it still the same piece? Yes.
If you're familiar with music, there's no harm in playing a slightly frustrating instrument like these. For a rank amateur who doesn't get why it sounds "wrong," it could definitely be discouraging.
Let's be honest though. The great majority of people that think they want to play guitar pick it up for all of a day, get annoyed they aren't instantly awesome, complain of sore fingers, and throw the thing in a closet. $54 is the perfect price point for that route.
If it won't stay in tune, you can probably get a better set of tuners from ebay for cheap. That should solve the problem, no?
Yes, tuners are replaceable. I have replaced tuners on my Fender Bullet Strat, and it stays in tune really well. Some folks like to tinker, and I think these guitars are perfect for someone who isn't afraid to set up their own stuff. Honestly, I doubt that anyone criticizing these has ever played one.
Here is a link to some more reviews:
Budget guitars really pull out the ire of some folks, but I guess it is like any area of interest. Some feel that if you don't spend sufficient money, and/or buy the right brand at the right place, that you are making a big mistake.
@thedogma: it's not rock'n roll if you ain't breaking the law, breaking the law.
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Well, all this debate finally convinced me to get one of these. I guess I'll find out how bad (or good) they really are.
I have purchased 4 of these guitar combos, yes four. These guitars are made in China and some do have issues. When these are made some of the manufacturing detail is left out, for instance frets not filed at edges leaving small gaps or burs strings get hung up on or that is uncomfortable on fingers. With a small fine file flat file and some care you can eliminate this. The Retro Fire Guitar has adjustable action where you should be able to eliminate string buzz. The Amplifier is source of noise but the kids seem to like that, all I can say it works. The guitar to amp cable is very cheap. The tuners have an issue with the tuning of the "A" string. (better to tune by ear) after others are close. one of the tuning keys have some play on the "B" string which makes tuning a little difficult. Its a guitar, it tunes, it plays, it works. If you don't expect a quality guitar you may be happy, I think it is better then some other starter combos you can purchase elsewhere.


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Green Day's 'American Idiot' Musical Is 'Daring And Loud,' Cast Says
'I am just continually astonished by their artistry and the power and the beauty of these songs,' director Michael Mayer says.
Green Day's "American Idiot" musical made its official Broadway premiere at New York's St. James Theatre on Tuesday night. If the band being moved to tears by the production isn't motivation enough to make the trip to NYC to see the show, well, we figured we'd let the cast and crew tell you why you should check it out.
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GENESEO, N.Y. -- The Geneseo Healthy Campus Community Coalition is seeking nominations for two new awards in the organization's continuing effort to promote the responsible and safe use of alcohol in our community. The Spirit of Geneseo Award and the Responsible Community Citizen Award will recognize organizations and individuals who have distinguished themselves through their commitment to the aims of coalition.
The coalition comprises a group of more than 60 businesspersons, local and college officials, college students and local citizens focused on preventing underage and excessive drinking.
The Spirit of Geneseo Award will recognize an organization or individual who took a leadership role among community entities to collaborate on a project that has demonstrated a substantive long-term commitment to the ideals of the coalition by promoting the community welfare related to the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages.
The Responsible Community Citizens Award has been established to recognize an organization or individual who made an exemplary effort in the past year to make a positive difference in the Geneseo community by promoting positive personal choices and/or the responsible sale and use of alcoholic beverages in our community. Examples include educational programs, implementing a change initiative, alternative social events, bystander intervention programming, and role modeling responsible decision-making.
"These new awards will call attention to the exemplary efforts made by local community members and local business establishments to promote positive social behavior and positive business practices in Geneseo," said coalition Co-Chair Bob Bonfiglio, vice president for student and campus life at SUNY Geneseo. "Since 2003, the members of the Geneseo Healthy Campus Community Coalition have agreed upon a set of expectations related to the responsible sale and use of alcoholic beverages in our community, the 'Geneseo Campus Community Compact' and sponsored training activities related to serving alcohol for over 200 employees of local businesses."
On the nominating committee are the Rev. Dr. Nancy Lowmaster, pastor, Geneseo Central Presbyterian Church; Cynthia Oswald, president, Livingston County Chamber of Commerce; and Craig Veley, assistant principal and director of athletics, Geneseo Central School. The group will review all of the nominations for the awards. The deadline for awards nominations is March 15, 2012.
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Tony Ortiz carried the ball 22 times for 177 yards and four touchdowns to lead Gilbert-Northwestern over Enfield 41-26, Friday in Enfield.
Ed Danty caught a 6-yard touchdown pass from John Lippincott, who was 6-for-10 for 93 yards with a rushing touchdown from four yards out for the Yellowjackets (1-1).
Southington 32, New Britain 7: The Blue Knights reeled off 25 consecutive points in the third quarter after the score was deadlocked at 7-7 en route to the win over New Britain.
Stephen Barmore went 15-for-34 for 202 yards, including a 41 yard touchdown pass to Alex Jamele. Barmore also had touchdown runs of 19 and 10 yards for the Blue Knights.
Zach Jamele scored on a two yard touchdown run while the Southington (2-0) defense played stellar with two safeties.
Stafford-East Windsor 52, Housatonic-Wamogo 20: Jeremy Stiewing threw for one touchdown, a 28-yard pass to Matt McElhone, and also ran 2 yards for another score for the Mountaineers (0-2) in the road loss.
Stiewing finished with 93 yards rushing and 51 yards passing. Anthony Zucco ran 4 yards for Housy's third score.
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - State security agents who protected Republican Governor Rick Perry as he crisscrossed the country running for president have filed for an additional $104,000-plus in backlogged travel expenses.
That raises Texas taxpayers' cost of Perry's failed White House bid to at least $3.7 million.
The Texas Department of Public Safety reported Friday spending about $104,000 on airfare, food, fuel, lodging and other travel expenses as it protected the governor between September and January.
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The French Republic: History, Values, Debates, edited by Edward Berenson, a professor of history and French Studies at NYU, as well as Vincent Duclert and Christophe Prochasson, explores the history and meaning of the French Republic and the challenges it has faced.
The work, published by Cornell University Press, is divided into three sections—"Time and History," "Principles and Values," and "Dilemmas and Debates." It begins by examining each of France's five Republics and its two authoritarian regimes—the Second Empire (1852-1870) and Vichy (1940-1944)—and covers a range of topics: Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity; citizenship; the press; immigration; decolonization; anti-Semitism; gender; the family; cultural policy; and the Muslim headscarf debates.
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Berenson, director of NYU's Institute of French Studies, has also published Populist Religion and Left Wing Politics in France (Princeton University Press, 1984), The Trial of Madame Caillaux (University of California Press, 1992), and Heroes of Empire: Five Charismatic Men and the Conquest of Africa (University of California Press, 2010). His history of the Statue of Liberty is forthcoming with Yale University Press in May 2012.
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Working on the generalized birthday problem, where you draw with replacement from $\{1,2,3, \ldots,d\}$ and look for the number of draws $n$ for which you have greater than $1/2$ chance of a match I said
$\frac{d!}{d^d(d-n)!} \lt \frac{1}{2}$
Using Stirling's approximation
$\frac{d^d \exp (d-n)} {\exp(d) d^n (d-n)^{(d-n)}} \lt \frac{1}{2}$
$\frac{1}{\exp(n)}(1+\frac{n}{d-n})^{(d-n)}\lt \frac{1}{2}$
Taking logs and using the Taylor expansion
$(d-n) \ln(1+\frac{n}{d-n})-n \lt -\ln (2)$
$(d-n) (\frac{n}{d-n}-\frac{n^2}{2(d-n)^2})\lt -\ln(2)$
$n^2>2 \ln(2) (d-n)$
Ignoring the n in comparison with d in the last term, because if we wanted it we should keep the next term in the expansion of ln, we get
$n>\sqrt{2 \ln (2) d}$ which agrees with the published result
This is fine, but like much math writing it obscures the difficulties of finding the solution. Before taking logs I wanted to say $(1+\frac{n}{d-n})^{(d-n)} \rightarrow \exp(n)$ but that left me with the unhelpful $1 \lt \frac{1}{2}$. Seeing what happened after taking logs, I need the next term in the expansion as the first one cancels. I know how to expand a Taylor series as far as I want, but I don't know what the next term in this one is.


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Drug allergies are a group of symptoms caused by an allergic reaction to a drug (medication).
Allergic reaction - drug (medication); Drug hypersensitivity; Medication hypersensitivity
Adverse reactions to drugs are common. (adverse means unwanted or unexpected.) Almost any drug can cause an adverse reaction. Reactions range from irritating or mild side effects such as nausea and vomiting to life-threatening anaphylaxis.
A true drug allergy is caused by a series of chemical steps in the body that produce the allergic reaction to a medication.
The first time you take the medicine, you may have no problems. However, your body's immune system may produce a substance (antibody) called IgE against that drug. The next time you take the drug, the IgE tells your white blood cells to make a chemical called histamine, which causes your allergy symptoms. A drug allergy may also occur without your body producing IgE. Instead, it might produce other types of antibodies, or have other reactions that do not produce antibodies.
Most drug allergies cause minor skin rashes and hives. Serum sickness is a delayed type of drug allergy that occurs a week or more after you are exposed to a medication or vaccine.
Common allergy-causing drugs include:
Most side effects of drugs are not due to an allergic reaction. For example, aspirin can cause nonallergic hives or trigger asthma. Some drug reactions are considered idiosyncratic. This means the reaction is an unusual effect of the medication. It is not due to a known chemical effect of the drug. Many people confuse an uncomfortable, but not serious, side effect of a medicine (such as nausea) with a true drug allergy.
Common symptoms of a drug allergy include:
Symptoms of anaphylaxis include:
An examination may show:
Skin testing may help diagnose an allergy to penicillin-type medications. There are no good skin or blood tests to help diagnose other drug allergies.
If you have had allergy-like symptoms after taking a medicine or receiving contrast (dye) before getting an x-ray, your health care provider will often tell you that this is proof of a drug allergy. You do not need more testing.
The goal of treatment is to relieve symptoms and prevent a severe reaction.
Treatment may include:
The offending medication and similar drugs should be avoided. Make sure all your health care providers -- including dentists and hospital staff -- know about any drug allergies that you or your children have.
In some cases, a penicillin (or other drug) allergy responds to desensitization. This treatment involves being given larger and larger doses of a medicine to improve your tolerance of the drug. The desensitization should be done only by an allergist, when there is no alternative drug for you to take.
Most drug allergies respond to treatment. However sometimes they can lead to severe asthma, anaphylaxis, or death.
Call your health care provider if you are taking a medication and seem to be having a reaction to it.
Go to the emergency room or call the local emergency number (such as 911) if you have difficulty breathing or develop other symptoms of severe asthma or anaphylaxis. These are emergency conditions.
There is generally no way to prevent a drug allergy.
If you have a known drug allergy, avoiding the medication is the best way to prevent an allergic reaction. You may also be told to avoid similar medicines.
In some cases, a health care provider may approve the use of a drug that causes an allergy if you are first treated with corticosteroids (such as prednisone) and antihistamines (such as diphenhydramine). Do not try this without a health care provider's supervision. Pretreatment with corticosteroids and antihistamines has been shown to prevent anaphylaxis in people who need to get x-ray contrast dye.
Your health care provider may also recommend densensitization.
Frew A. General principles of investigating and managing drug allergy. Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2011;71:642-646.
Celik G, Pichler WJ, Adkinson NF Jr. Drug allergy. In: Adkinson NF Jr., Bochner BS, Burks AW, et al., eds. In: Middleton's Allergy Principles and Practice. 8th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier Mosby; 2013:chap 79.
Grammer LC. Drug allergy. In: Goldman L, Schafer AI, eds. Goldman's Cecil Medicine. 24th ed. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier Saunders; 2012:chap 262.
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Cracks and the City II at the Baxter Theatre
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There's funny and then there's mirth-inducing, laugh-a-minute, downright hilarious which exactly describes the Alan Committie directed production, Cracks and the City II. Running at the Baxter Theatre in Rondebosch until August 13, this fantastic show stars Marianne Thamm, Anthea Thompson, Anne Hirsch and Shimmy Isaacs, who dazzle on stage.
The Cracks, as they are collectively called, return to poke fun at life, love and everything in between and, boy, do they tickle your funny bones.
Whether it's casting an amusing look at what female priests would be like (trust me, you've never heard confessions quite like theirs) or immersing themselves in major international events like the Royal Wedding, these ladies will have you howling with laughter.
It's good to see Thamm, a well-known columnist, lift her witty words off the page and give them life on stage. Everything from suburban moms to political campaign trailing receives a comical lashing from her.
Hirsch is no stranger to the stage, as a regular performer of the improv Theatresports troupe as well as winner in the TV show So You Think You're Funny? and it shows. Her side-splitting explanations of social networks and celebrity fixations, as well as her amazing mime skills, link history and the modern age through comedy quite skillfully.
Having just returned from a nationwide tour of her hit one-man show, Allie Pad Funny Worcester, and a stint at the Vodacom Funny Festival, Isaacs is in top comedic form. Her satirical take on international relations, parental ambition and spiritual monetary transactions is not to be missed.
Thompson has had quite a theatrical year with major roles in productions like The Taming of The Shrew and Not The Midnight Mass. As a Crack, her musings on elderly inflictions and diva tantrums are ridiculously funny.
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Throwback Thursday: 164 Years without Edgar Allan Poe
Throwback Thursday, while around since as early as 2003, has become widely adopted on social media over the past year, particularly on the photo-sharing site Instagram. The concept is simple: users post old pictures—sometimes only a few days old, sometimes a few decades—to evoke a sense of nostalgia. Lucky for us at Commonweal, we're 89 years old and have tons of old, archived throwbacks – that'd we'd now like to share with you.
Paid subscribers have access to the scores of archived material on our website, but we have even more in bound books lining the walls of our office. Starting this week, we will be posting articles from our historic archives that aren't available on the site—as well as poems, videos, photos, and more.
This past week marked the 164th anniversary of Edgar Allan Poe's death, so naturally, we at Commonweal are musing on the relevance of a man whose work was published nearly two centuries ago. We know about his life, his literary work, and his genius. We know about his tragedy, poverty, and addictions. We also know he is the only poet who has a U.S. professional athletic team named after one of his works—the Baltimore Ravens. And to top it all off, Poe's chilling stories of two centuries ago remain relevant alongside the top writers of today. Why is his work still so compelling?
To start Throwback Thursday, here is a review of Israfel: The Life and Times of Edgar Allan Poe by Hervey Allen, written by Padraic Colum in the August 24, 1927 issue of Commonweal.
"Poe's work meant not only labor—it meant heroism. For a man to have produced such work as he produced, in spite of illness, disappointment, lack of appreciation, great sorrow, and the debility brought on by indulgence in opium, required an effort as heroic as an air-flight from New York to Paris. And there were no prizes to be received, no crowds to cheer, when the effort had been accomplished."
To read three other reviews of Edgar Allan Poe's work published in Commonweal between 1931 and 1947, download the tablet edition of the October 11th issue on your tablet or smartphone. Click here for more details.
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Good piece on Poe at the New Yorker -- no firewall.
Interesting articles linked by KeriLee and Chuck.
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In hopes I am being consistent with the theme of this piece I recall a fellow once reminding me of another famous person who either failed or was mediocre in business and/or professional efforts, until later in his life he succeeded. That person was, of course, another fellow more than little gifted with the pen, Abe Lincoln.
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It's not uncommon for writers little appreciated at first. See. for another example, the recent article and discussion here about J. F. Powers. Although he was generally very well received by the critics, his books didn't sell well, and he had a hard time financially. It seems to me that writing is a true vocation needing special grace to persist sometimes. Same with the other arts.
Both the article suggested by KerriLee from The Comonweal and the article suggested by Chuck from The New Yorker should make it clear that Edgar Allan Poe, a drunkard and a "humbug," was nothing at all like Abraham Lincoln.
(And comparing Poe to Powers is equally pointless. Poe's work holds up after 160 years and is not embarrassing to read. Powers' output does not hold up and IS embarrassing. Anyone who imagines otherwise should read or reread his two novels and his long dull stories. The few women who appear are repellent. The men, including the priests, are losers. The racism, the repetition, the padding, the sagging, all demonstrate why Powers has been justly forgotten.)
I imagine otherwise. My appreciation of Powers' stories and novels matches your disdain for them. De gustibus...
Hi, Chris: I agree that fiction is a matter of taste. I'm glad you like Powers.
When the reviews of Powers' daughter's collection of his letters started appearing, I decided to read his two novels and his short stories. I've done so in the past couple of weeks.
I didn't remember Morte d'Urban as being so lame. I had never read Wheat That Springeth Green before, but, as some said when it first appeared, it's even worse than Morte d'Urban. And his short stories are horrible. I guess I expected more from them, since some contemporary reviewers of his novels said he was really a short story writer, not a novelist. As it turns out, he was neither.
He admitted to being lazy, but I think another reason for his small output was his realization that he just wasn't very good. He may have felt that the acclaim he was receiving was simply because he was Catholic. As Samuel Johnson said, "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all." In a country still emerging from the virulent anti-Catholicism of the 19th and early 20th centuries, any Catholic who could compose a sentence was surprising to some.
Many studies of Poe stress his influence among the French symbolist poets. Less well known is that Dostoevsky greatly admired Poe and translated some of his short stories into Russian.
Here is a link to one of the five volumes of Joseph Frank's biography.
If you fill in the search inside box with "Poe" you should be taken to pp. 74-75 which discusses Dostoevsky's interest in Poe.
It's interesting that some of Dostoevsky's St. Petersburg tortured souls may have older cousins among the down-and-outers of Poe's Philadelphia and New York.
For those in the New York area there is a Poe exhibit at the Morgan Library:


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