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From our editorial on the election of Pope Francis:
Anyone who followed media coverage of the papal conclave that elected the Argentine Jorge Mario Bergoglio, now Pope Francis, couldnt help noticing that the same breathless questions were raised again and again by commentators assessing the future of Catholicism. Will the church ever allow priests to marry? Will it ordain women? Will it change its teaching on homosexuality or birth control? Will it permit the divorced and remarried to receive Communion? Is clergy sexual abuse still a problem? Will bishops ever be held accountable for covering up that abuse?When it comes to these persistent conflicts it seems the scrum has barely budged over the past forty years. While most American Catholics think the church should change its positionsor at least moderate its toneon these neuralgic issues, the hierarchy and a group of conservative Catholics influential in Rome remain intent on stressing the countercultural aspect of Catholicism, its power to push back against the overwhelming secularity of American life. The result is a church nearly as polarized as the U.S. Congress.Meanwhile, the church in the United States has lost a third of its members and many doubt such losses can be stanched as long as certain teachingssay, about sexual morality or the role of womendo not change. Conservative Catholics respond that in comparison with the even more dramatic decline of mainline Protestant churches that have embraced supposedly more enlightened attitudes, the Catholic Church is doing fine. Any church that accommodates itself to our individualistic, egalitarian, and morally promiscuous secular culture, they say, is doomed to irrelevance. Better to stay the course; that way, even if losses are high, there wont be a complete collapse. This often seemed to be the default position of Benedict XVI. If Franciss initial remarks and actions are any indication, he promises to engage the larger culture from a less defensive posture.
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The question: "Will the Church change?"This is the wrong question. "Church" broadly understood as the People of God has changed a long time ago. The evidence has surrounded us for a very long time. Catholics, especially women, have been voting change with their feet for decades.The more pertinent questions is: "Will the church's all-male feudal oligarchy change?"For all the positive vibes we get from Francis so far, the jury is very much still out on this question. Excuse me if I remain skeptical. Abandoning the Apostolic Palazzo is a step in the right direction.How can a man rise to the rank of cardinal-archbishop of Buenos Aires and eventually the papacy without the support of the most reactionary forces in the hierarchy? [Read Ratzinger.]How could we expect him to so easily turn his back on these bunch of bankrupt ideologues that selected him now that he has been "installed" as pope?Francis maybe prove to be nothing more than the hierarchy's latest take on W's bogus "compassionate conservativism."LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!
I am forever in search of Catholic writers and editors who will address with clarity the issue of the requirement of celibacy for candidates for the priesthood. If the leaders of the church are to change this discipline it will not be so that "priests may marry". There is no tradition in either the East or West for permitting men to marry after priestly ordination. There is, however, an ancient tradition, still practiced in some rites and places, by which married men may be called to the Sacrament of Holy Orders. This practice exists, for instance, among converts from the Anglican Communion. They convert as married men who may subsequently be ordained as priests since their prior ordination is not recognized by the Catholic Church. The question, then, stated clearly is will this Pope entertain conversation by bishops as well as by rank and file Catholics for a change in the discipline so as to open priestly ordination both to men willing to be celibate and men who are already married. There used to be a lot of priests who actually had a calling to be married but had to resign from the priesthood in order to respond to that call. Among those who are left are hardly any who are either called or well suited for marriage. Many of them talk down a change in the discipline with the dictum that "celibacy is not the real problem". It may not be "the" real problem in terms of supplying a sufficient number of priests, but it is certainly a big problem. I also detect that those on the left who deeply desire a shift that would allow the ordination of women, are not eager to discuss the admission of married men. It seems to strike them as an issue of inequality. Let the need of God's people for more priests now be damned, seems to be the position to which they lean. In conclusion, there will be no "optional celibacy" if that is taken to mean that men who are presently ordained might be give the choice of marrying after ordination. The "option" will be to permit both single and married men to be called to priestly ministry.
Jim, Such pessimism. How did Saul become Paul and how did Jesus change the Sons of Zebedee?We have to give Francis a chance. Already he has disarmed us with genuine gestures. He has already shook up the Curia with his actions. The Curia with its penchant for titles and domination. Time will tell. Right now he has my vote.
Ecumenism.What if, through a combination of Pope emeritus Benedict's past efforts, and Pope Francis's openness, the Orthodox re-united with us?It seems almost within reach.
It is always dangerous to evaluate someone based on less than a month on the job. But saying that, the thing that I am cautiously optimistic about with Pope Francis is that he is willing to listen and to consider various changes. Even if he does not make them all, if he can tone down the rhetoric, maybe move some of these issue to the back burner and replace them with efforts to "do for the least of these" and stop the demands for compliance replacing them with a willingness to teach and explain,and even consider that others might be right, he will have been a major improvement over his predecessors. Celibacy is but one of the issues. A misunderstanding of the role of sexuality in marriage and its relationship to birth control, obviously is another. The role of women is a third. I hardly expect Francis to make dramatic changes in all of these. But if he only indicates a willingness to explore some it will be greatly appreciated. And possibly set in motion changes by a future pontiff.
No, no, no, no, yes and who knows. But this pope, so far, with his deacon's heart, seems more focused on bringing good news to the poor than thinking about those other questions.
John Feehily:I have a few questions about what you wrote. Can you tell me how you see these questions?First, whats the reason for saying that a person not yet ordained can marry now and still be ordained later, but a person already ordained cannot marry? To me, that seems inconsistent.Also: You say that those who favor a married priesthood are not eager to discuss the admission of married men. Myself, I havent noticed that. Whats your reason for thinking that? Finally: You say that that same group of people opposes admitting married men to the priesthood because it seems to strike them as an issue of inequality. I dont understand. What inequality are you referring to?Thanks.
Wonder if he will not remain focused on the poor and the gospel mission and allow episcopal conferences to make regional decisions on some of these issues in order to best meet the needs of the poor, the sick, the un-evangelized?Rather than a top down, hierarchical one time decision, why not adopt the methods of Paul, Peter, the early Patristic Fathers/Mothers who went out on mission preaching the gospel and allowed these questions to be determined by local Christian communities. Wonder if his initial gestures don't indicate some of this approach.
"First, whats the reason for saying that a person not yet ordained can marry now and still be ordained later, but a person already ordained cannot marry? To me, that seems inconsistent."Hi, Gene, I'm not John Feehily, but I want to note that John did give a rationale for writing that: what he described is an ancient custom in both East and West. And it holds true today in the Roman Catholic church for so-called permanent deacons: married men may be ordained to the diaconate, but unmarried men are unable, according to church law, to marry after ordination. However, there is an exception to this last: there is a combination of circumstances in which a widowed deacon may, with the permission of the pope, remarry and remain a deacon in good standing (briefly, those circumstances are: young kids, old parents and indispensable ministry). The existence of this exception indicates that the prohibition on marrying - or at least remarrying - after ordination is not a matter of hard-and-fast doctrine - at least for deacons. But ecumenically, I would think it could be problematic if the Western church started permitting its priests to start marrying after ordination.
"Wonder if he will not remain focused on the poor and the gospel mission and allow episcopal conferences to make regional decisions on some of these issues in order to best meet the needs of the poor, the sick, the un-evangelized?"One thing we've learned about Francis is that there is no predicting what he will do. But I'd think that the issues named in the editorial aren't really regional in nature; for the most part, they touch on sacraments that pertain to the universal Church. If he wants to include bishops more than his predecessors have in considering these issues, perhaps the way to do it would be via synods or even ecumenical councils.
Jim:Thanks for your reply. The rationale, you say, is the custom. But can we go back a bit further and ask: What is the basis for the custom? What is the reason why it was established? Also: Can you see how, at least to me, it seems discriminatory? How would you reply to that?
Jim - beg to differ. Ordination is a sacrament of ministry; celibacy is a juridical law. In the West, we had married clergy for 12 centuries (and longer if you read the Actae of the council of Trent - this was one of the main Trentan council goals in terms of reforming an issue impacting parishes, dioceses, etc. and was linked to residency/benefices). Would suggest that the East's custom is more that bishops can not be married.Every council since the 12th century has not allowed celibacy to be a subject for discussion; synods - well, the current passive nature of the synods would have to dramatically change from *advise* to *legislate with power & authority*. Episcopal conferences have been asking Rome to ordain *viri probati* for years.
Were there others who, like me, were stumped by the words viri probati near the end of Bill deHaass comment? Well, I now have it on very good authority i.e. Bill that the phrase means of good reputation; in good standing in the community; wise, experienced. Bill says it was discussed and debated at Vatican II.
Jim Pauwels:A follow-up question: whatever the reason was for establishing the custom, is there any reason why it could not be modified, or even discarded, if, after discussion, it was concluded that such changes would be for the good of the church?
John Feehily: why is he long-standing tradition (small t) of not allowing priests to marry post-ordination sacrosanct?A tradition kept simply for its own sake, unexamined, unrevised, may cease to communicate life and freedom. If it alienates a body of the faithful, if its scriptural foundation is dubious or reflective of circumstances that no longer apply, *if it does not equip the community for mission*, then its essential tie to the core of the gospel must be questioned. Brendan Byrne, SJ, Paul and the Christian Woman, The Liturgical Press (1988).
Will the Church change?If you answer this in terms of ordination, celibacy, etc., you are speaking from what Francis calls the self referential church. The Cardinal from Havana has published some comments and Francis' notes for his speech in the congregations before the conclave that touch on this idea.If you answer this in terms of who the church will change and how, you open the Church to great internal transformation. If the question is not "who do we ordain?" but "what do the poor need to hear?" the self referential questions have a way of resolving themselves.
In ordination typology, the one being ordained is being espoused to Christ and the Church. Thus, the prohibition of being married to another spouse. But a person who has already responded to the call to the sacrament of matrimony may subsequently, with the encouragement of his spouse, to respond to a call to priestly ministry. This is not an easy thing to do well, but many Orthodox priests have managed well. The Orthodox, however, only elect celibate priests to service as bishops.I was referring to priests who are critical and negative about the prospect of extending ordination to proven married men because they know this will change the clerical culture. Some of them are same sex attracted--even if not acting out such desires--and may be fearful that people would be more likely to think of them as being "gay" since they are not married. I don't think that makes sense logically, but is more of an emotional thing. I would gladly welcome the ordination of mature married men and believe they would enrich the church. I believe it is a matter of justice that this change be instituted since the alternative is to continue closing and consolidating viable parish communities for the lack of celibate priests.
This discussion seems to be moving from the editorial to each one's own "self-referential" (what a wonderful concept for discussion!) concern. What I have been thinking is that none of us, or almost none of us, in 1960 really grasped what John XXIII was up to when he called a council. Certainly the peritii whose efforts bore fruit in the council didn't see the way ahead at that moment. Maybe Pope John didn't either. We may be at a similar moment.So far, nothing F, S.J. has done irritated me, and a lot of what he had done has made an old heart swell with joy. (Someone said this morning that there was no corpus on one of the crosses he used over the weekend. I said it was probably the cheapest cross available. Someone else said the corpus must have fallen off, and he had sent the rubber bands for it back to his newspaper dealer in Buenos Aires. This is the kind of pope I could grow to love.)Since no one flogging his own self-referential interest predicted what we have so far, I would prefer to watch and wait and pray a little longer before telling F, S.J. how to be a pope. Meanwhile, it won't kill us to provisionally pay attention to those Catholics we have stridently been not paying attention to -- as the editorial suggests. If nothing else happens, that exercise still will be good for our souls.
"Jim beg to differ. Ordination is a sacrament of ministry; celibacy is a juridical law. In the West, we had married clergy for 12 centuries (and longer if you read the Actae of the council of Trent this was one of the main Trentan council goals in terms of reforming an issue impacting parishes, dioceses, etc. and was linked to residency/benefices). Would suggest that the Easts custom is more that bishops can not be married."Bill, I don't think anything I wrote contradicts in a basic way what you've written here. I agree that celibacy is a law - with some reasoning behind it - and that there is a tradition of married clergy in the West, including today, and in the East both in ancient times and today. However, both West and East have followed the chronological sequence I've described.Gene: for an understanding of some of the reasoning for celibacy,
Claire: isn't it a bit presumptious to assume that it is incombant on the Orthodox to "reunite with us?" There is an implication that they left the One True Church and "we" stayed therein.A little history here ....What caused the schism? It was not the excommunications of 1054; not differences in theology, discipline, or liturgy; not political or military conflicts. These may have disposed the churches to draw apart, as did prejudice, misunderstanding, arrogance, and plain stupidity. More fundamental, perhaps, was the way each church came to perceive itself.The eleventh-century reform in the Western Church called for the strengthening of papal authority, which caused the church to become more autocratic and centralized. Basing his claims on his succession from St. Peter, the pope asserted his direct jurisdiction over the entire church, East as well as West.The Byzantines, on the other hand, viewed their church in the context of the imperial system; their sources of law and unity were the ecumenical councils and the emperor, whom God had placed over all things, spiritual and temporal. They believed that the Eastern churches had always enjoyed autonomy of governance, and they rejected papal claims to absolute rule. But neither side was really listening to the other.In addition, since the ninth century, theological controversy had focused on the procession of the Holy Spirit. In the life of the Trinity, does the Spirit proceed from the Father only, or from the Father and from the Son (Filioque in Latin)? The Western church, concerned about resurgent Arianism, had, almost inadvertently, added the word to the Nicene Creed, claiming that it made more precise a teaching already in the creed. The Greeks objected to the unilateral addition to the creed, and they strongly disagreed with the theological proposition involved, which seemed to them to diminish the individual properties of the three Persons in the Trinity. In 1439 Greek and Latin theologians at the Council of Florence, after debating the issue for over a year, arrived at a compromise that, while reasonable, has not proven fully satisfactory. http://www.ctlibrary.com/ch/1990/issue28/2820.html
Sorry, I snipped that previous comment. Gene, for an understanding of some of the reasoning for celibacy, you might check out Vatican II's decree on the ministry and life of priests, especially paragraph 16.http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents... are historical reasons, too, for the celibate priesthood in the West, although I'm not much of a church historian and I'm sure others can talk more authoritatively than I can on the subject.
"whatever the reason was for establishing the custom, is there any reason why it could not be modified, or even discarded, if, after discussion, it was concluded that such changes would be for the good of the church?"I agree that, as a law, clerical celibacy could be modified to some extent. (Laws frequently have doctrinal underpinnings, but as I indicated in my previous comment, I don't view clerical celibacy as a hard-and-fast doctrinal matter).
"Also: Can you see how, at least to me, it seems discriminatory? How would you reply to that?"Hi, Gene, I'm not completely sure what you mean by discriminatory. If you mean that it discriminates against married men that they can't be ordained to the priesthood (in the Roman Catholic church), or that it discriminates against ordained men that they can't marry, I guess I would say that in both sets of circumstances, these men entered into their states of life, presumably with their eyes wide open and understanding the implications and consequences of their life-long choices. So I don't see it as unfair or discriminatory in this sense. I see it more as a necessary consequence of a way of life that is freely embraced.
Married men are ordained in the Catholic church regularly: the Orneryariate is a good example. And then there are those other married ministers who have "poped" over time and been accepted for ordination without having to ensconce their wives in a convent and sell their children into slavery.Oh, the rules can be and have been bent whenever it is to the advantage of the 1% who are the Grand Benders.
Jim, I'm sure you're right that some, particularly the Orthodox, would see it as presumptuous. For better or for worse, my frame of reference is that of Roman Catholicism. Even my efforts to think of others betray my parochialism!
In 1439 Greek and Latin theologians at the Council of Florence, after debating the issue for over a year, arrived at a compromise that, while reasonable, has not proven fully satisfactory.It's only an issue in the Latin version of the Creed. When the Creed is read in Greek it is the same as in Orthodox churches. "the Catholic Church has refused the addition of kai tou Uiou to the formula ek tou Patrou ekporeuomenon of the Symbol of Nicaea-Constantinople in the Churches, even of Latin rite, which use it in Greek. The liturgical use of this original text remains always legitimate in the Catholic Church."http://www.ewtn.com/library/curia/pccufilq.htm
We know that there are many practicing married priests in South America. It seems more low keyed than denied. Alluding to this Cardinal Oscar R of Honduras said that between Rome and us "there is a very big ocean." I don't think that is the fight Francis should concentrate on right now. He has wisely focused on the heart of the gospel which is to help the downtrodden. Which are many. From the terribly poor in India, Africa and South America this is a need crying to the heavens. If we do not insist on what Jesus insisted on the issue of priestly marriage, or any other issue, deserves no attention.
''well, the current passive nature of the synods would have to dramatically change from *advise* to *legislate with power & authority*"Bill deH --Indeed. For the Curia to change, the power of policy-making has to be removed from it and given back to the real bishops, the ones with responsibility for actual dioceses. It would seem that a permanent 'synod' of bishop/cardinals would be the best substitute for the Curia. Until Frances moves to establish such a group I don't think we can talk about actual, meaningful change in the governance of theChurch. Changing the current players without changing the structure would just be cosmetic.
Always thought that the Eastern Patriarchs felt that they came from the apostle, Andrew, rather than the Western Patriarch from Peter. (now that title has been suppressed by B16).Celibacy - in 12th century, always thought that this was a disciplinary step to reform wayward priests; to control issues around inheriting church property; eliminating the practice of benefices being passed down to nephews, sons, etc. It was a positive step to address a crying issue in the church.Would suggest that we have reached another *crying issue* in the church and a change in discipline may be very appropriate. Currently, we have significant regions of catholics who are denied sacraments including eucharist because of a disciplinary rule - does that really make sense?Also, celibacy is a charism - but, currently, in the West, it is a forced obligation in order to be ordained. Which makes little sense - if you are forced or compelled, it is not a free act = thus, creating other issues in our faith and sacramental understanding.The concept and understanding of priesthood was changed by VII - check the documents you cite. They purposefully chose not to use the word *sacerdos*; rather, they chose to use *presbytr* to convey and reform from a purely machinistic/objective/cultic understanding of priesthood. Priesthood is an office; a ministry (note how often VII uses the word ministry in connection to priesthood). The purpose of priesthood is mission; living the gospel. It is not to be a separate, cultic, group. The priesthood finds its foundation in baptism - not clericalism. In fact, one good reason to reform now is the experience of clericalism - and its offspring via sexual abuse; putting women in second place; refusing to implement VII's people of God idea. This is how I connect this question/issue to the original post on Francis - he appears to focus on mission; that clericalism is a threat to mission; etc. and thus wonder if he won't get us back to VII's original reforms?
Sorry for the mispellings above. Also, wanted to add that Father's mention above of the *old* image of a priest as marrying the church is dated and makes little sense today. Last year, there was a talk by an Italian cardinal that went viral in the traddie blogs when he went on for 10 pages using this image and then reinforcing it with references to a priest's mother; and their relationship. Sorry, taken to an extreme, it could be interpreted as fairly neurotic.
I think there should be an amnesty for all the priests who left to get married. Re-instate them, after a period of spiritual discernment, renewal, and probation, and the priest shortage will be, if not over, far mitigated. The way in which at least some of these men entered the priesthood was without the maturity or opportunity to realistically understand their own calling to marriage. In the name of discipline, the rules were held firm at the cost of many good and generous servant-leaders whose only crime was that they came to realize their call to marriage after they were ordained. Yes, our historical practice does not include the practice of weddings for the already ordained. But is that "Tradition" or "traditions"? Given the history, the requirement arising from that tradition should be waived for those who came into Holy Orders under the old dispensation. There are, you can be sure, clergy of other denominations who married after their ordination -- there being no such prohibition in Christian churches descended from the Reformation -- and they are now welcomed into Catholic ordained ministry regardless. This is one reason why Catholics feel there is an unjust application of the law of celibacy in addition to some questions about its necessity and/or desirability.
Rita - what does laicization mean? What would it mean to revoke laicization? I'd think those questions would need a lot of exploration before we can seriously consider the idea of an "amnesty".
Jim, you are not suggesting that laicization is as powerful as the sacrament of orders, are you? I was taught that priests are priests forever, and laicization is an administrative action decreeing that a priest assume the status and be treated as a lay person. Revoking a laicization would mean recognizing the still present character and behaving in accordance with it rather than the pragmatic fiction of the laicizing.So what do you think needs to be explored? (since I have now foolishly jumped to an odd conclusion that I understand your concerns, let me recognize I am probably clueless and need to hear what concerns you)
Jim McK - no, laicization is not a sacrament or, er, an "un-sacrament". But pretty clearly, laicization has the character of a *permanent* end to formal ordained ministry. Why is that? Why must it be permanent? That's what needs to be explored.Think of it this way: of the very large cohort of men who left the priesthood to marry over the last few decades, presumably quite a few of them are no longer married - they are widowed, or divorced with an annulment. Some fraction of those men presumably would still have the health, energy and the desire to function as a priest - in those senses at least, they would seem to be "suitable" for the priesthood. Yet I have not heard that any of those men have had bestowed on them an "administrative action" to revoke the "administrative action" that ended their priestly ministry. (Perhaps this does happen, and I'm not aware of it). Why is it that this doesn't happen more often - or at all? The need for priests is there. These men not only have the formation for the priesthood under their belts - sacramentally, they're *already priests* and in many cases have years of pastoral experience to boot. To use crass business language, they could be instantly productive.The so-called priest shortage has been ramping up for decades. Why hasn't been amnesty been pursued for decades? There must be a reason (or more than one reason). What is it?
Jim @ 9:10 --Oh, Jim, you know the answer to that one: Avoiding scandal -- number one!! The people, who expect their priests to be celibate as a guarantee of their spiritual dedication, depend upon the hierarchy to uphold this norm without fail. Lowering morale among those celibate clergy who remain -- number two!! If some are married, the others will question their own commitment to celibacy and feel aggrieved at the sacrifice it entails.Some have said it's meanness, spite over these guys having broken the cardinal rule and gotten away with it. However, I think it's not right to attribute low motives such as this. So what about scandal and morale? As for scandal, I think there should be a 50 year moratorium on anyone in the hierarchy judging what is going to scandalize the laity. After the management of sex abuse cases, their credibility to judge what's a scandal and what isn't is severely in question. Besides, it scandalizes the faithful more to have a double standard that is harder on priests of the Roman Rite than those coming from other communities. As for morale, there's a point to that, to some extent. When everyone is doing something that's admittedly challenging, there's solidarity in doing it together. Again, however, doesn't morale suffer from the influx of married clergy from elsewhere? Why them and not us?
Sort of funny reading about*morale*....let's see, one of the latest EWTN/Big Bill surveys stated that catholic priests have the highest morale of any profession (and I have a bridge to sell).Morale - guess reputable studies that indicate at any one time, more than 50% of celibates are not living their vow doesn't impact morale. And what about the hypocrisy of gay priests in a church that deems them as *intrinsically disordered* - and again reputable studies approximate that 40-50% of all US clergy are gay. And this doesn't impact morale.Sorry, that is just another excuse to avoid and deny. If you truly have the charism of celibacy, would it matter if others made a decision to be married?
These are good points to raise, Bill deH. The realities are not the same as what appears on paper. And "winking" at those who cheat on celibacy is not good for anybody. Please note that I was recounting the arguments I have heard presented, not saying that I agree with them!
Bill deH, then do you agree there should be an amnesty?
Rita - IMO, that is a complex question that is hard to answer. My approach would be to allow episcopal conferences to ascertain the actual need (thus, allow the mission to dictate the practice especially in terms of access to the eucharist and sacraments).If episcopal conferences had this authority, then would start with *viri probati* and, yes, would include laicised priests in this category. Agree with your wise counsel that *viri probati* would need to meet some type of formation criteria (on-going education; stable family/spouse; if a former priest - his history, contributions, situation/reasons for leaving active ministry,etc.). Who determines and approves a man as meeting these criteria and then ordination?Amnesty - there are serious issues around a *blanket amnesty*....what about those who did not seek laicization? not all left to get married? what about those who the church sought laicization for (could be financial irregularities, scandal of some sort, etc.). And have concerns about the small percentage who left and have never made a life for themselves - unsuccessful in jobs, maintaining a home/lifestyle/marriage, etc. We also have the question about orientation - many gay priests left for various reasons.If we go the way of *viri probati*; would current deacons be candidates? What about religious order priests who left - could they be chosen to serve in local or diocesan parishes?As you can see, it gets complicated quickly. (and didn't mean to imply that you agreed with the statements, sorry)
"Avoiding scandal number one!! The people, who expect their priests to be celibate as a guarantee of their spiritual dedication, depend upon the hierarchy to uphold this norm without fail."Lowering morale among those celibate clergy who remain number two!! If some are married, the others will question their own commitment to celibacy and feel aggrieved at the sacrifice it entails."Rita - even if these are the only two reasons, neither of them strikes me as a throw-away. They're both deserving of further exploration. It doesn't seem far-fetched to me that either or both could be a real problem for any sort of amnesty.Bill makes some great points about a blanket amnesty. At any rate, it seems to me that the place to start with a married priesthood, if we're going to go down this path, is to admit already-married men to the seminary and to presbyteral ordination. There is ample tradition in both East and West for this.
"Celibate as a guarantee of their spiritual dedication."Really? What do the non-celibate have ... chopped liver?
Jim P. ==I read somewhere that *by law* laicization does not permit a return to priestly ministry. In other words, once you're out, you're out. Of course, the papacy being an absolute monarchy, the law could be changed if he chose to change it.Even if the returning priests did not become pastors or even full assistant pastors, they could say Mass and hear Confessions, for which there is an enormous need. I might also mention that Canon Law also says somewhere that bishops are *required* to supply priests for the faithful whether they want to or not. Seems like there are some awfully contradictory laws in the Catholic Church.


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On November 25, 2014, seven finalists will take to the mainstage of the Four Seasons Centre for the Performing Arts for the Ensemble Studio Competition, the feature event of Centre Stage gala. The event will be hosted by world-renowned Canadian tenor Ben Heppner, and the singers will be accompanied by the internationally acclaimed COC Orchestra conducted by COC Music Director Johannes Debus. To watch the competition and see Canada's rising opera stars, visit our Centre Stage website and buy your tickets today! Over the next two weeks, follow along on Parlando as we introduce you to each of our finalists.
Nathan Keoughan, Bass-baritone
Nathan Keoughan's hoping his past experience auditioning for the Ensemble Studio will hold him in good stead when he returns for this year's competition.
His credits include Luka in The Bear, Angelotti in Tosca and Sarastro in Die Zauberflöte (Highlands Opera Studio/HOS); Pankrol in Milk Bar (Mount Allison Opera Studio); Colline in La Bohème (Cowtown Opera and HOS); the Mayor in Dr. Miracle and the Lackey in Ariadne auf Naxos (NEC); Roy Gardner in Anne & Gilbert (Harbourfront Theatre); and Raimondo in Lucia di Lammermoor (Opera by Request). You'll also be able to see him this season as Dr. Dulcamara in Elixir of Love with Cowtown Opera.
Here's what you might remember about Nathan from last year's competition:
(To view last year's blog post, click here.)
Born and raised in Charlottetown, P.E.I., Nathan completed his bachelor of music at the University of Prince Edward Island and still finds it hard to pry himself away. But he's managed to do so long enough to attend the New England Conservatory of Music in Boston, where he completed a master's degree in Vocal Performance in 2012.
Before moving to Boston, Nathan says that his opera career "was not the original plan." An accomplished theatre actor, Nathan portrayed Roy Gardner in Anne & Gilbert for three consecutive summers, and also played Edwin Simpson in Nine Lives, a musical about the life of L.M. Montgomery, for the Charlottetown Festival.
It was theatre that gave him a taste for performance, but opera that captured his imagination. "As my training continued at UPEI through the years, my amazing teachers, Stephen and Sung Ha Shin Bouey, introduced me into the world of opera, and with the help of YouTube I was soon a huge fanatic," Nathan says. "What really draws me to opera is the culmination of such a focused singing technique while having the most dramatic of intentions and, on top of that, keeping up with the rich orchestral music underneath you."
So how did Nathan feel when he was asked to return for the Ensemble Studio Competition?
"Every year I've come back I feel the pressure has increased," Nathan says. "I know if I haven't improved upon what they heard last year there would be no hope of me getting into the finals. So when I got the phone call, I was surprised they'd accept me for my third year but also relieved that I haven't gotten any worse!"
One advantage of being the only returning competitor this year is that having performed with the COC Orchestra before on the mainstage gives him a chance to shake off his nerves. "This year I hope to spend less time being petrified and more time enjoying the fact that I get to perform in such an incredible house with such wonderful musicians in the pit."
Whatever the outcome of this year's competition, Nathan is going to enjoy every moment. "Our time at the COC goes by so fast, especially our time on stage. This year I look forward to taking it all in and enjoying the process as well as the performances. It's not an everyday thing that I get to work and perform with such high calibre musicians, conductors, coaches and teachers. I don't want to take any of it for granted. Singing with an orchestra like this feels as though you are floating on a cloud. It's quite a rush."
You can follow Nathan on Twitter to learn more about him.
The Ensemble Studio Competition is Tuesday, November 25, 2014. Tickets to the Ensemble Studio Competition and Centre Stage cocktail celebration are $100. For more information and to purchase tickets, visit COCCentrestage.ca. You can buy tickets here,
call COC Ticket Services at 416-363-8231 or go to the Four Seasons
Centre for the Performing Arts Box Office (145 Queen St. W.). You can also chat about the event with us on Twitter using #COCCentrestage.
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Aaron Sheppard, tenor
Born and raised in St. John's, Newfoundland, tenor Aaron Sheppard was always surrounded by music. But until he was 17, a career in opera wasn't even on his radar. Instead, he preferred folk music and musical theatre, but knew he wanted to pursue music at university. "Seeing as there's no folk music degree, opera was the degree of choice!"
Aaron went on to study opera at McGill University in Montreal, where he received a bachelor of music. He is currently a member of the Atelier lyrique, Opéra de Montréal's young artists training program.
Since discovering opera, Aaron already has several roles to his credit, including Hadji in Lakmé, Pong in Turandot, First Philistine in Samson et Dalila, Kronprinz in Silent Night and Joe's Brother in Dead Man Walking (Opéra de Montréal); Tamino in Die Zauberflöte and Bonario in Volpone (Opera McGill); Pedrillo in Die Entführung aus dem Serail and Monostatos in Die Zauberflöte (Salzburg Festival Young Singers Project); Ferrando in Così fan tutte (Jeunesses Musicales du Canada ); the title role in Albert Herring and Prince in Rusalka (Opera NUOVA); and Brooklyn Boy in Lillian Alling (Banff Centre). He is also a recent winner of the Western Canada Metropolitan Opera National Council Auditions.
Beyond opera, Aaron is quite the techie. "If I wasn't pursuing a degree in opera I would probably be working in international business, and trying to come up with the next big tech innovation." He is the co-founder, along with some friends from Newfoundland, of the upcoming iOS/Android application Bendr, which aims to give every user an unforgettable and safe nightlife experience. His other hobbies include fly fishing, and "pretty much every sport."
But opera remains Aaron's passion. The role he would most love to tackle? Well, it probably hasn't been created yet. "I'd love to do something new and be the first to sing it," he says. The Social Network: The Opera, anyone?
The Ensemble Studio Competition is Tuesday, November 25, 2014. Tickets to the Ensemble Studio Competition and Centre Stage cocktail celebration are $100. For more information and to purchase tickets, visit COCCentrestage.ca. You can buy tickets here, call COC Ticket Services at 416-363-8231 or go to the Four Seasons Centre for the Performing Arts Box Office (145 Queen St. W.). You can also chat about the event with us on Twitter using #COCCentrestage.
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Raised in Stratford, Ont., performing is in Eliza Johnson's blood. The daughter of brass musicians who played in all of the Stratford Festival musicals, she was "quite literally raised at the theatre" and she credits being surrounded by such world-class performances as some of her most formative dramatic training.
From a young age, Eliza was also heavily involved in the arts, taking piano lessons and dancing competitively. She also performed in community theatre productions and sang in the chorus of various musicals at the Huron Country Playhouse.
Eliza also expresses her artistic side through visual art. In elementary school, she designed costumes for Shakespeare productions in the hobby fair and even considered a career as an artist in high school, before deciding to focus on opera.
"It was during my time with the Saint Mary's Children's Choir that I found my voice, discovered the joy of musical collaboration, and truly fell in love with singing," says Eliza. She began private lessons and competed as a soloist in the Kiwanis Music Festival. By the age of 10, she realized that she wanted to be an opera singer.
She moved to Toronto to earn her bachelor of music in voice performance and a master of music in opera from the University of Toronto (UofT), where her roles included Governess in The Turn of the Screw, Adina in L'elisir d'amore, Despina in Così fan tutte, Rob Ford's Mother in Rob Ford: The Opera and Lucy in The Telephone. Recently, she appeared as Pamina in The Magic Flute (Opera Lyra's Opera Studio) and Soeur Valentine in Dialogues des Carmélites (Opera Theatre of Saint Louis/OTSL). In 2014, Eliza was also part of the COC Chorus for the company's productions of Così fan tutte and A Masked Ball.
After Centre Stage, you'll be able to see Eliza at Opera Theatre of Saint Louis as Berta in The Barber of Seville. And if she had it her way, you'd someday see Eliza singing her dream role: Violetta in La Traviata. "It would be pretty darn cool," Eliza admits. "To me, she is the quintessential diva."
In addition to opera, Eliza is interested in arts education and outreach programs for children from underprivileged communities. "I would love to work to some capacity developing programs that nurture budding creativity in a variety of artistic mediums," she says.
When she's not singing, she enjoys live music and theatre, visiting galleries and museums, yoga, cycling, picnics and boardgames. One of the more unusual hobbies she's pick up recently is fermentation and pickling. "Yes, I am a bit of a Flower Child."
As Eliza's operatic career takes off, she knows she's lucky to have such a strong support base. "I was very privileged to have been born into a household that was so artistically nurturing," she says. "I am so grateful to my many teachers and mentors who have helped me along the way, and especially to my parents for always supporting me."
To learn more about Eliza, follow her on Twitter!
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Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz began the Cabinet session at Al-Salam Palace in Jeddah this afternoon by thanking God Almighty for bestowing upon the Kingdom the blessings of safety, security, development and stability under the leadership of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz. He thanked the citizens of the Kingdom for their expressions of national pride on the occasion of the 81th (83nd according to the Hijra calendar) National Day of Saudi Arabia.
Then, the Council reviewed the latest regional and international developments, including the works of the 68th session of the United Nations General Assembly. The ministers listened to a report on the activities of the Saudi delegation to the meeting and reiterated the Kingdom's positions on various issues of global concern.
Turning to local affairs, the Cabinet was reassured about the preparations being made to ensure that all pilgrims can perform Hajj rituals with comfort and ease. They noted the holding of the Conference on Crowd Medicine and Human Gatherings, welcoming the fact that the Kingdom is a global role model in dealing with health issues during mass gatherings.
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The Pratt Community College volleyball team ended their season with a hard-fought loss to Barton County in the first round of the Region VI playoffs Tuesday.
The Lady Beavers fell 21-25; 28-26; 25-20; 25-23.
PCC ends its season 9-20 overall, going 5-9 in the Jayhawk West. Nine freshmen return next season from the rapidly improving team.
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I am looking for the code to implement share buttons for twitter, buzz and facebook with a counter like youtube have in their share option, please see the screen shot.
I've been looking over some codes but none of them does exactly what I want, either it is a bit square or it is a "like count" to facebook.
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Recent and archived articles by Verlyn Klinkenborg of The New York Times.
After 16 years of stories that raised as many thoughts and ideas as animals and pets, this is the last installment of The Rural Life.
December 26, 2013, Thursday
Sounds From the Sky
Coming across dozens of birds (maybe a group of geese? a crowd of crows?) is a reminder that what we see may not be what we expected based on what we heard.
November 20, 2013, Wednesday
Waiting for What Comes Next
Watching and waiting, full of expectation, for the weather to finally signal that it's time to get busy.
October 24, 2013, Thursday
Monarchs Fight for Their Lives
The long-term survival of monarch butterflies may be in doubt.
October 13, 2013, Sunday
An Audience Without an Opera
City Opera closes its doors, leaving behind the people who were its real cultural legacy.
October 6, 2013, Sunday
The Silence of the Leaves
All the trees are turning in concert, rushing to a foregone conclusion, quietly.
September 28, 2013, Saturday
Silencing Scientists
The Canadian government is making it harder for scientists to do their work.
September 22, 2013, Sunday
Hey, You Calling Me an Invasive Species?
With global warming altering habitats, it hardly matters whether a plant is called native or nonnative.
September 8, 2013, Sunday
Empty Barn-Rafters
The swallows have moved on yet again. How did they know it was time to leave?
September 3, 2013, Tuesday
Books to Have and to Hold
The books on our shelves continue to speak to us, unlike ephemeral e-books.
August 11, 2013, Sunday
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Colorectal Cancer Can Be Prevented: Dedicated Community Outreach on CRC Screening Makes a Difference
Dartmouth outreach program helps to increase New Hampshire colorectal cancer screening rate for those over 50 to one of highest nationwide.
Even though colorectal cancer (CRC) is one of the few cancers that can be prevented, it is still the second most common cause of cancer deaths in men and women combined in the United States. Norris Cotton Cancer Center is working to change this.
"By removing any polyps that are found with screening, we can reduce the chances that those polyps can later develop into colorectal cancer," said Lynn Butterly, MD, director of Colorectal Cancer Screening for Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center and medical director for the New Hampshire Colorectal Cancer Screening Program (NHCRCSP), a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention grant program. "That's why screening is so important for this type of cancer."
Compelling outreach, creative messaging on colorectal cancer prevention
Butterly is a driving force behind Norris Cotton Cancer Center's colorectal cancer prevention outreach. For years she's been a passionate advocate, working to bring this message to people across the state. She has partnered with many organizations including, NH Department of Health and Human Services (NHDHHS), American Cancer Society (ACS), and the New Hampshire Comprehensive Cancer Collaboration to increase screening. Not afraid to get playful with the message, she has hosted annual events that feature a colorful giant colon exhibit and a costumed polyp figure.
Her goal is to get more people to have colorectal screening, but Butterly also wants people to understand the screening process. For example, people should understand how important following pre-screening prep instructions is to getting a good view of the colon and accurate results. She's even produced a how-to video for the colonoscopy prep on You Tube, offering tips and suggestions that help de-mystify the process, offer encouragement, and to help make the pre-colonoscopy diet go smoothly.
In 2009, as a bona fide agent for NHDHHS, Dartmouth received a five-year grant, for approximately 5 million dollars from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to increase colorectal screening statewide. Led by Butterly as the grant PI, the New Hampshire Colorectal Cancer Screening Program's goal is to work with partners across the state to increase colorectal cancer screening rates for those over 50 years of age to 80 percent by 2014. The latest New Hampshire Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance Survey (BRFSS) indicates that there's been significant improvement: screening rates have increased from 66.9 percent in 2006 to 74 percent in 2011, one of the highest in the country.
Working with endoscopy sites across New Hampshire, the NHCRSP also provides free colorectal cancer screenings to uninsured low income residents. This free colonoscopy program, which includes patient navigation, has performed more than 1,000 screening tests with zero no shows and 98 percent adequate prep rates. The CDC is assisting the NHCRCSP in evaluating the role patient navigation plays in achieving such remarkable success.
Outreach targeting older adults increases colorectal screenings statewide
Recent outreach efforts build on the observations of Dr. Stefan Holubar, a member of NCCC's Gastrointestinal Oncology Program, who is himself a colon cancer survivor. Concerned about the number of older patients he was seeing with advanced colorectal cancer, he asked the NHCRCSP Medical Advisory Board to take a look at the data. "If colorectal cancer is caught early enough it can be treated and cured, even in older patients," he said. "Catching it early is what matters."
The New Hampshire Cancer Registry data showed that 62 percent of colorectal cancers diagnosed in 2007 were in the 65 and older age group. The NHCRCSP, with funding from NH Comprehensive Cancer Collaboration, developed a small media campaign that is aimed at older adults. In a unique collaboration, NHCRCSP is teaming up with the AARP to hand out flyers, which feature senior citizens, to everyone who comes for help at their 2013 tax clinics. Collaborating with all of these committed partners should enable us to prevent colorectal cancer or catch it early and save many lives.
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Originally Posted by mayjunei think you should be allowed to post once, one answer, no edits. the questions are not that tough that we should make a lot of edits i think.


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Staying on Track: The Landscape Post
Do you ever wonder the following: how much time do I need to spend in the discussion area; should I respond to everyone; how do I coax them along without dominating the conversation; will I ever get another weekend off? Collison, Elbaum, Haavind, & Tinker (2000) are here to save the day with the Landscape Post.
The Landscape Post
Maintain focus on initial discussion prompt and student learning objectives using the Landscape Post (Collison, Elbaum, Haavind, & Tinker, 2000).
- Read student discussion postings and identify themes, discrepancies, and unresolved questions.
- Refer back to the original discussion question.
- Write a paragraph using 3 or 4 student quotes that help tie together your original learning objective with the most important matters brought up by the group thus far.
- Write a critical thinking question about one area where you would like to see more exploration.
- Revise your message by adding a greeting and fine-tuning your positive tone.
- Check for spelling and grammatical errors.
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- The Landscape Post is not NOT a summary.
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In this discussion, many of you shared and described [primary themes] that you thought were important to [tie back into original discussion question].
[Student A] discussed ["whatever student discussed on topic"]. In addition, [Student B] offered his/her opinions on ["whatever student discussed on topic"]. And finally, [Student C] really summed it up when she/he said ["whatever student discussed on topic"]. [Insert your own thoughts here to tie the students' comments back to the original discussion question.]
[Insert a follow-up question related to the topic and ask students to explain their reasoning.]
Collison, G., Elbaum, B., Haavind, S. & Tinker, R. (2000). Facilitating Online Learning Effective Strategies for Moderators. Madison, WE: Atwood Publishing


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Jondavid Pollock, MD, PhD
Radiation therapy uses high energy x-rays to destroy cancer cells. It is used to treat both colon and rectal cancers. There are many new ways that the radiation oncologist can customize your treatment. The goal is to try and kill as much cancer while sparing as much normal tissue as possible. Radiation therapy may be given either alone, or with surgery or chemotherapy.
The radiation oncologist will determine how many treatments you will receive. Each treatment generally only takes a few minutes.
In external beam radiation therapy, radiation is produced by a machine called a linear accelerator. Short bursts of x-rays are fired from the machine at the cancer. The x-rays come out in a square-shaped manner. The radiation oncologist designs special blocks to shape the radiation beam so that it treats the cancer and as little normal tissue as possible.
Endocavitary radiation therapy is used to treat some rectal cancers. A high-intensity dose of radiation is delivered through the anus and into the rectum. This may cause fewer side effects because endocavitary radiation spares the skin and other abdominal tissue. It may also be used in combination with external beam radiation.
This is also called internal radiation therapy. Small pellets with radioactive material are placed near the cancer. Since radiation does not travel far from the pellets, it is less damaging to normal tissue. Brachytherapy is sometimes used in rectal cancer treatment.
This form of radiation therapy is given through the hepatic artery near the liver. Radioactive glass beads are inserted through a tube and into the artery. It kills cancer cells by blocking their blood supply. This treatment is used in people who have cancer that has spread to the liver, but not to other distant parts of the body.
chemotherapy, the side effects from radiation result from injury to the normal tissues. Common radiation therapy side effects include:
Talk to your doctor about what treatments may be appropriate for you to manage these side effects, Be certain to contact your doctor as soon as you begin to experience side effects. The earlier side effects are addressed, the more likely they will be controlled with a minimum of discomfort.
Colon cancer treatment option overview.
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Colorectal cancer. American Cancer Society website. Available at: http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/cid/documents/webcontent/003096-pdf.pdf. Updated January 17, 2013. Accessed May 15, 2013.
Colorectal cancer. EBSCO DynaMed website. Available at: http://www.ebscohost.com/dynamed/what.php. Updated May 3, 2013. Accessed May 15, 2013.
Rectal cancer treatment option overview.
National Cancer Institute
website. Available at:
http://cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/treatment/rectal/Patient/page4. Accessed May 15, 2013.
Last reviewed May 2015 by Mohei Abouzied, MD, FACP
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It's Official: Miller Beats Padlow
MOUNDSVILLE – Jason "Jake" Padlow failed in his bid for re-election as a Marshall County commissioner, according to the official vote canvass that concluded Wednesday, but he narrowed the gap between himself and Republican Robert Miller Jr. by picking up 10 additional votes.
Despite his claims this week that the integrity of the election had been compromised, neither Padlow nor his attorney, Dan Guida, would comment Wednesday on whether they will seek a recount or contest the results of the election in court.
The canvass revealed incumbent Democrat Padlow received 6,148 votes, while Miller earned 6,218 to capture the seat. Just 70 votes, or 0.56 percent of the total, separated the two in the final tally. That result differs from vote totals announced Nov. 6, which showed Padlow leading by 61 votes – 4,797 to 4,736.
Miller said he was pleased about his victory and appreciated the vote of confidence he had received. He also commended Padlow for calling to congratulate him.
"I would like to thank Commissioner Padlow for his call on Saturday," Miller said. "It was very gracious of him.
"I would also like to thank the public for their support. It was nice to be embraced by the community," he added. "I hope I can at least live up to their expectations."
County Clerk Jan Pest and her staff discovered an error in the unofficial report late last week, when it was determined 2,912 absentee and early votes had been overlooked as election night totals were released. Padlow was notified of the problem Saturday and learned that updated totals showed him losing to Miller by 80 votes.
Padlow has asserted that seals on ballot bags were broken Saturday without county commissioners, ballot commissioners or the prosecutor present. Pest confirmed sealed bags containing PEBs, or personal electronic ballots, for each precinct in the county were opened Friday so "flash card" memory from voting machines could be retrieved from them to run a new report prior to the canvass.
Separate bags containing the rolls of paper that record each keystroke made on a voting machine were brought to the commission room with their seals still in place as the canvass started Tuesday. Timothy G. Leach, assistant general counsel for the West Virginia Office of the Secretary of State who was present for the canvass, said this "paper trail" is considered to be the official record of the vote.
Pest said she and Deputy Clerk Winnie (Reilly) Turner returned to the office Saturday in an attempt to resolve the error that was discovered Friday. She said when the bags were opened Friday, several staff members and members of the public were present.
During the vote canvass, Commissioners Don Mason and Brian Schambach accepted 96 provisional votes and 16 absentee ballots that were post-marked by Nov. 6 or received Nov. 7.
Padlow recused himself from the canvass, which lasted from 10:30 a.m. until about 11:40 p.m. Tuesday and resumed at 4 p.m. Wednesday.
Of the total 112 provisional and absentee ballots accepted, 105 were added to the total results Wednesday, as Pest said seven provisional voters had been allowed to vote regular ballots at the precincts on Election Day even though the paperwork designating them provisional was completed.
Pest said those seven ballots were counted with the Election Day totals released Nov. 6.
The canvass was completed and the vote totals declared at 6:20 p.m. Wednesday.
Pest said candidates have 48 hours from the time of the declaration to request a recount. All such requests – and a $300 bond – must be received in the clerk's office by 6:20 p.m. Friday.
Meanwhile, Democrat David Sidiropolis received 5,961 votes but lost a three-way race for two seats in the House of Delegates. Incumbent Democrat Mike Ferro earned 7,971 votes, and Republican David Evans 6,264. Just 1.5 percent, or 303 votes, separated Sidiropolis and Evans in the contest.
Attorney George Sidiropolis represented his brother David Sidiropolis during the canvass and submitted a Freedom of Information Act request regarding the election results to Pest.
The brothers, like Padlow, expressed concerns over whether the election night error was properly corrected.
"Preserving the integrity of our elections is fundamental to our Democracy," George Sidiropolis said late Wednesday. "The voters and candidates were informed that nearly 3,000 votes were counted behind closed doors and that the seals guarding the election results were broken.
"I attended the canvas hoping that the commission would provide answers to basic questions about how this apparent violation of the law was allowed to occur, but my questions were met with indifference and hostility," he continued. "It is my hope that Marshall County voters will receive an explanation that restores the public's confidence in the election results."
Following the canvass, the commission race was the only question on the ballot to see its results change.


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- 1 tbsp baking powder
- 1 tsp brown sugar
- 1/4 tsp baking soda
- 1/4 tsp salt
- 1/4 cup nutritional yeast
- 1 tsp rubbed sage
- 1 tsp marjoram
- 1/3 cup non-hydrogenated vegetable shortening
- 1/2 cup pureed pumpkin
- 1/2 tsp apple cider vinegar
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i just threw your pumpkin chocolate pudding cake in the oven for a treat for justin- he has rehearsal in jersey until 830 every Tuesday, and i think he'll be pleased...
Stopping by your blog and seeing snow was shock! I'm not ready!
You always have great ideas - and thanks for reminding me that purple potatoes are a fun change.
I would kill for some snow! I've been in AZ for about 6 years, and I really miss it.
I also LOVE that stew recipe, so I'll definitely have to try it with the addition of pumpkin and cider. Yum!
Get out. Snow already? It was barely sweater weather in St. Louis by afternoon, but chilly to start. Well, our time is coming. Your stew with biscuit topping sounds perfect.
Looks so good! Do you think you could use whole wheat pastry flour? I miss snow. I live where we have to travel an hour just to get to it.
wow! it snowed!?
that might mean it's coming my way... it didn't snow in Quebec yet. but I don't want to put my scooter away for the winter now!
those biscuit might be conforting. thanks
That sounds delicious - I bought some turnips in anticipation of making a vegetable casserole for tonight's tea, and this topping would go perfectly!!
Snow! Lucky you! We didn't have any snow at all here in D.C. last year. I would love a little snow -- well, maybe not this early.
Your food always looks so delicious and makes me so hungry.
How much soy milk do you use? It's not listed in the ingredients.
Whole wheat pastry flour would certainly work. You may have to add a tbsp more liquid, though.
None. Sorry, I forgot amend all of the recipe when I copied it from the previous post. It is now fixed.
ok, it's snowing a lot this morning now. I'll HAVE to make a stew and biscuit...
Looks delicious! How did the kids like it?
Oh my, I can't imagine snow this time of year! In Memphis, we're lucky to see one snow in February (if we're lucky...and even then, it doesn't stick).
Your stew looks so lovely. Purple potatoes are magical! And the idea of biscuit topping REALLY makes me hungry.
Uhh, I HATE snow! I just moved back to Illinois from AZ so I'm in shock hehe.
That soup looks to-die-for and I would love to have some with the biscuit topping to warm me up right about now =)
Congrats on your October snow (which I adore more than food itself) but seriously, HUMONGOUS KUDOS for biking to work in it!!! -Jain
More wonderful Thanksgiving recipes! This'll be a fabulous year for food at the Gutshall cabin...
Ugh! I am so incredibly jealous of your snow. I'd gladly take it. I love, love, love every aspect of winter--including the shoveling! Yes, I know I'm a tad bit crazy.
Yeah! Thanks for the tip. :o)


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My opponent attacks with two 4/4 creatures. I block each of them with one 2/2 creature, but have Nim Deathmantle on the field, currently not equipped to anything. When my two 2/2 creatures are put into the graveyard after the damage step, can I pay 4 mana to save one of them, equipping the Nim Deathmantle to it, and then pay another 4 to save the other, unequip from the first 2/2 creature, and now have it equipped to the other?
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It's a triggered ability, so it'll trigger every time a creature dies. If multiple creatures die simultaneously, you choose how to stack the triggers, then get to resolve them one by one.
From the card's Oracle rulings: