text: Setthorns - New Forest Camping In The Forest (19 reviews) from £12.10 2 people sharing Contact Us Book It Images Map Select Section Overview A true back to nature camping trip Pitch amongst the pines and oaks of the beautiful forest setting at the Setthorns campsite. There is an abundance of wildlife in the New Forest and the relaxed atmosphere means most will have little fear coming close to the campsite; campers at Setthorns can expect to see a number of New Forest ponies and maybe even some deer. There is an array of activities to get involved in while staying at this campsite including cycling and walking through the New Forest or visits the nearby seaside resorts of Barton on Sea and Bournemouth. Nearby attractions include the New Forest Reptile Centre, Hurst Castle and lighthouse and the Red House Museum and Gardens which is a must see for archaeology or geology enthusiasts. Close to the villages of Sway and Brockenhurst, there are plenty of restaurants, craft shops and pubs to keep everyone entertained. Please note: It is essential that you bring your own chemical toilet. There are no shower or toilet facilities on this site. Facilities Setthorns - New Forest has the following facilities on or around the site. Members' and non-members' caravans welcome Members' and non-members' trailer tents welcome Hardstanding with electric hook-up Seasonal Pitches A well-sheltered site Drinking water taps Ice pack freezing Premium Pitches Standard pitches Members' and non-members' motorhomes welcome Members' and non-members' tents welcome Hardstanding only pitch Storage facilities Chemical toilet disposal point Motorhome stop-off Pets welcome Select Pitch Reviews Review 1 |2 |5 |Next » Expand review Recommended: yes 5 Absolutely fantastic. Big Joff (Club Member) stayed Feb 2015 This review is for Setthorns - New Forest Absolutely fantastic. A wonderful family break, bring your bikes, your walking boots and get ready for some lungs full of fresh woodland air. The premium pitches are absolutely fine, but the Select Pitches are worth paying that little bit extra for as they are bigger and more secluded. These are at 'High Tops'. Don't worry if you can't get a 'select pitch' it isn't the end of the world and the other premium pitches are beautifully set. It won't ruin your time away. Lovely walk to Sway through the Forrest and a well earned pint when we got there. Then lovely walk back. Site very dog friendly. Highcliffe was lovely, park on the cliff top and walk along the beach. Brilliant for dogs out of season. Lepe Country Park worth a visit to with the kids and really friendly cafe there too, they do a lovely hot chocolate and sausage roll. Hope you enjoy it as much as we did and we will probably see you there soon. Towing: Easy Location: Country,Secluded Suitable For: Families,Older couples,Active break,Peaceful break Friendliness: 5 Cleanliness: 5 Facilities: 5 Expand review Recommended: yes 4.3 This is a top site,a site once visited one you would want to keep to yourself. Fozzie (Club Member) stayed May 2014 This review is for Setthorns - New Forest This is a top site,a site once visited one you would want to keep to yourself.Excellent check in from the helpful site managers. As there are no toilet facilities even this keeps the site quieter,There are walks directly from the site,with wildlife to match.Pitches are in separate areas,with different facilities and sizes.Opposite the site is open heathland for an evening stroll.One downside to this brilliant site, is the on site pot holes especially near the select pitches,hopefully site access roads will improve when bridge repairs have been completed.Would I return definitely (but to an area without potholes) Towing: Easy Location: Country,Secluded Suitable For: Older couples,Active break,Peaceful break Friendliness: 5 Cleanliness: 5 Facilities: 3 Expand review Recommended: yes 3.7 5 stars for everything,except the facility's as there are none!!! we have been going there for... vicki and peter (Club Member) stayed Jul 2013 This review is for Setthorns - New Forest 5 stars for everything,except the facility's as there are none!!! we have been going there for 30 years!!!.and always look forward to going back,the select pitch sites are the bast,electricity,and a picknekc table,and larger area. Towing: Easy Location: Country,Secluded Suitable For: Families,Older couples,Groups,Peaceful break,Younger couples Friendliness: 5 Cleanliness: 5 Facilities: 1 Expand review Recommended: yes 4.7 It is 10 years since we last stayed at Setthorns with our children and we decided that this... Tracey & Roger Wicks (Club Member) stayed Apr 2013 This review is for Setthorns - New Forest It is 10 years since we last stayed at Setthorns with our children and we decided that this year we would return, this time on our own as our children are now grown up. This setting still has all the charm and beauty that we remembered and loved the first time that we stayed here. Although there are absolutely no facilities other than a water tap, electric hook up and Elsan point, this is all you need for a very relaxing holiday. A disused railway line runs through the centre of the site and this is an excellent cycling and walking route right on your doorstep. There is a path through the forest that leads directly into the villiage of Sway and here you can find local shops with places to eat and drink. There are many other off road pathways to walk and cycle directly outside the campsite and a particular beautiful spot is Wootton Bridge where you can sit by the stream and relax or if you have children, they can paddle and fish for tiddlers with a net! An ice cream van stops here regularly as well. During our visit, we saw plently of wildlife around our caravan including deer, rabbits & squirrels plus many species of birds including woodpeckers & cuckoos. The New Forest ponies also roam in and out of the forest. We would highly recommend this site if you like getting away from it all and having some time out of the hustle and bustle of everyday life. Towing: Easy Location: Country,Secluded Suitable For: Families,Older couples,Groups,Active break,Peaceful break,Younger couples Friendliness: 5 Cleanliness: 5 Facilities: 4 1 |2 |5 |Next » Travel Local Travel Nearest bus stop: No buses that run past the site Nearest train station: A branch line at Sway is 3mile from site Get Directions to Setthorns - New Forest Staying here? Public transport near the site Bike ride? Find cycle routes nearby Sat Nav Download our POI file Widget by Frixo Pricing Pricing from £12.10 based on 2 people sharing Bank Holiday High Season Mid Season Low Season Non-member back packer £11.30 £9.95 £7.35 £6.05 Select pitch £8.40 £8.40 £8.40 £8.40 Standard Pitch Price £22.60 £19.95 £14.70 £12.10 Extra Adults £5.95 £4.95 £3.95 £3.00 Extra Children £3.60 £3.15 £2.35 £1.90 Family discount £28.00 £24.00 £18.00 £15.00 Over 55 £18.05 £15.95 £11.75 £9.65 XL Unit £18.40 £18.40 £18.40 £18.40 XL Pitches £10.00 £10.00 £10.00 £10.00 Solo Camper Discount £16.00 £14.00 £11.00 £9.00 Electric Hook-Up £5.80 £5.80 £5.80 £5.80 For more information take a look at Pricing explained.


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Four bugs, $A,B,C,D$ are initially placed at the corners of a unit square. From a given initial moment, all four crawl simultaneously at one and the same speed $s>0$, $A$ towards $B$, $B$ towards $C$, $C$ towards $D$, and $D$ towards $A$, with each heading at every instant along the line joining it with its target.
Find a system of differential equations describing the trajectory of $A$.
Do the bugs eventually all meet at the center of the square? If so, how long did it take?
My attempt so far: $\def\grad{\mathbf\nabla}$ $\newcommand{\norm}[1]{\left\Vert #1 \right\Vert}$ Call ${\vec x}_1,{\vec x}_2,{\vec x}_3,{\vec x}_4$ the positions in the plane of $A,B,C,D$ respectively. Then $$\grad {\vec x}_1 = \frac{{\vec x}_2-{\vec x}_1}{\norm{{\vec x}_2-{\vec x}_1}}s$$ $$\grad {\vec x}_2 = \frac{{\vec x}_3-{\vec x}_2}{\norm{{\vec x}_3-{\vec x}_2}}s$$
$$\grad {\vec x}_3 = \frac{{\vec x}_4-{\vec x}_3}{\norm{{\vec x}_4-{\vec x}_3}}s$$
$$\grad {\vec x}_4 = \frac{{\vec x}_1-{\vec x}_4}{\norm{{\vec x}_1-{\vec x}_4}}s$$
with ${\vec x}_1(0) = (0,0),\ {\vec x}_2(0) = (0,1),\ {\vec x}_3(0) = (1,1),\ {\vec x}_4(0) = (1,0)$.
I have noticed that the sum of the gradients is 0, but I don't know if that is helpful or not. Can someone help me figure this problem out?


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Why are the physical sciences described perfectly by mathematics?
They are not.
Here's a simple example: QED is arguably one of the most precisely predictive theories in physics, yet its underlying mathematics are unavoidably based on approximation methods, so you can never really calculate an ultimate answer using it. Feynman himself did not believe that QED was indefinitely accurate in any case -- he was if anything surprised at just how far the method ended up working.
Or here's another even simpler point: there are no points in physics! That is, the mathematical concept of a precise point, or of a precise line, has no real analog in the physical world. Creating finer and finer points in physics requires more and more energy, again creating a situation of approximation, this time in the other direction: physics can only approximate one of the most fundamental concepts of mathematics, and rather poorly at that. String theory postulates line-like strings of... something, I've never quite understood what... that might come closer, but I would assume that even in that case it is unlikely that strings are claimed to be "perfect" lines.
Now if on the other hand your question is more along the lines of why are some forms of mathematics so incredibly good at predicting physics when applied at the right level of resolution and context?, then it grows far more interesting... and harder to answer.
My personal suspicion is that we are paralleling our own universe with the ways our brains work. Mathematics is after all just an application of our built-in spacial reasoning to clusters of symbols that, like the features on rocks from a riverbed, we can rotate and turn or disassemble and recombine in more complex patterns. Vertebrate brains seem to be fantastically well tuned to making energy-efficient use of patterns of invariance and constancy in our universe, and mathematics is in that sense a gorgeously refined and precise application of just that ability. So I don't think it's too surprising that our brains are capable of creating constructs that are impressively "in tune" with a universe that is both regular enough and complex enough to contain creatures like us, creatures who can inspect and predict that regularity and then pose interesting questions about it.
(And I'm betting that was likely not the kind of answer you were anticipating... :)
This is a very deep question, and one that we cannot (and, quite possibly, will never be able to) answer.
Nevertheless, I think there are really two parts to this question. The first is actually quite easy to answer - the second, not so much.
First: why is it that the language of mathematics is so useful in describing the structure and orderly behaviour that we see around us? To answer this, I cite Wikipedia: "Mathematics (from Greek μάθημα máthēma, "knowledge, study, learning") is the abstract study of subjects encompassing quantity, structure, space, change, and more." In other words, we define mathematics as the study of structures, patterns, well-defined processes, etc. Humans developed math as a language to convey precise ideas about relationships, properties, changes in quantities over time, etc., so it should come as no surprise that math is well-suited to talk about orderly behaviour.
The real question here is: why does the universe exhibit structure and orderly behaviour? Why is it that the amazing complexity we see around us is often explainable by very simple rules? This is an intriguing question, and I don't think we'll ever be able to answer it properly.
IMHO, I think that it should not be very surprising that Mathematics perfectly describes tha natural sciences. Firstly, mathematics was developed initially as a tool for natural sciences. ( I am talking about modern mathematics, starting with say calculus). So, i think of maths as not another subject in its own right, but just a tool to study natural sciences, which was later on made more rigorous and more powerful by the 'mathematicians'. In other words, what I feel is that we have voluntaily chosen maths as the language for physical sciences, and shouldn't be surprised. Its as if saying 'Wow, I can communicate (or get my thoughts across) using English (or any another language), how mysterious'. The second point, which I am entirely sure of is that the world looks orderly only from a distance. We all like to think that why the world obeys laws, but it is the human tendency to see order in everything. If we probe deeper maybe, there many be some underlying disorder ( like QM proved the underlying uncertainty in everything). So maybe the universe is just apparently mathematical. These are just conjectures.
Mathematics cannot perfectly describe physical phenomena. However, mathematics, as a language, provides us an easier way of describing and predicting what will most likely happen (given a situation). These predictions are based on well known laws, principles and theorems.
As far as we know the Coulomb law has been valid as long as the Universe has existed, throughout all of the Universe.
By contrast, imagine a situation where all things related to electrostatic charge are entirely random. Two objects may randomly attract or repulse, and/or the distance depencency of the interaction changes randomly. Then there is no law whatshowever.
In our actual universe, there are to our knowledge no exceptions to Coulombs law. Of course, that's why it has the status of 'law' in the first place. It gets to that status because we're never confronted with an exception to it.
This is the case for our entire corpus of physics laws: we find many properties of the universe that are perfectly consistent throughout time and space.
My best guess is that this is necessary for a Universe to exist at all. Atoms can exist because of the existence of the Coulomb attraction between the positively charged nucleus and the negatively charged electrons.
My guess: to have a Universe at all its properties must be consistent throughout time and space. An existing Universe is a self-consistent universe.
The axioms of math are observations of the real world. Math is a particular study of the real world. Logic, the other tool of math, is a codification of how the brain deals with reality. If it did not work we would not study it. The question is a bit like asking why the hammer is so effective at driving nails. The answer is that Math works because that is what we developed it for and if it did not work we would have kept looking until we found something that did. The fact that it is so simple at its core is a reflection of the fact that the universe is fundamentally simple at its core. Another restatement of the question might be why is the reflection in the mirror so accurate. The question has an anthropic principle feeling about it.
I think physical sciences correlate well with mathematics becuase of mechanics. That is to say the laws of physical sciences are written in numbers and geometry. For instance a transmission in a car will have a perfect matematical gear ratio, as well as definite geometry a engine will have exact hp and dimensions etc as well as circular and up/down motion.
THe distance ration between two planets will be proportional to the angle from their observer. Just some things Ive been working on.
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Is it possible to add a column in the list View in Finder, that displays the dimensions of image files ?
Just add the word Pictures (capital P) to the front of your folder name, and you will miraculously get Dimensions and Resolution as a column option. Then just rename it back.
Note: You may need to right-click on the list view's header bar to see this option, rather than View > Show View Options (
It would appear that the answer is no, not directly.
Options for columns include:
and image size is not one of the choices.
You could, however, use a Folder Action to assign image size to the Comments field of a file in a folder and display the Comments column.
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Afghan special forces are seen outside the Spozhmai hotel at Lake Qargha where security officials say Taliban insurgents have killed at least 17 people, most of them civilians, in an attack that began before midnight on Thursday, just north of Kabul, Afghanistan, Friday, June, 22, 2012. (AP Photo/Ahmad Jamshid)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. troops in Afghanistan have quietly achieved one small but important victory over the past year: They are finding and avoiding more improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, than a year ago.
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Lt. Gen. Michael Barbero is director of the Pentagon's effort to defeat the bombs. Barbero says half as many bombs hit their mark from January through March as during the same time last year.
Bomb-planters have picked up the pace again during the summer months, planting explosives along roadsides or footpaths.
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It depends what kind of information you're wanting to keep track of really, I know it's a lot easier to follow a players career if you're managing a team but I wouldn't have thought it was necessary to be managing a team follow a managers career.
It depends what kind of information you're wanting to keep track of really, I know it's a lot easier to follow a players career if you're managing a team but I wouldn't have thought it was necessary to be managing a team follow a managers career.
No, you don't need to. In my Apprentice sign-up, all of the managers are edited into the database, and my manager name is "Sir Alan Sugar". If one were to get fired, I'd get the news direct to my inbox because the Premiership's the only league running. However, for news on the managers in your sign-up you'll just have to keep tabs, checking around every so often to make sure they're all still there.
I have an idea for a Transfer Challenge. The idea would be that each week people would have to complete a different challenge based on transfers like winning the premiership whilst only signing players from the championship or below, win a domestic cup whilst on being able to sign defensive players. Each different challenge would only last one season and a new challenge could be created for the next week. This means that there would be a league table and people would get points depending on their performances. More points would be awarded for a person who did the set challenge with a team like Derby rather than Man Utd. This is obviously open to comments and criticism so feel free to tell me if this has already been done.
This is idea for an experiment/challenge that could be done with pretty much any save game you already have running (in a similar manner to the Danny Roberts Challenge and NepentheZ's Youth Player Project):
As anyone who has taken on dafuge's or gundo's challenge will well know, the 'Islanders' are a perculiarity of this paticular version of FM and some of them can be nutured into good players, even the odd worldclass one pops up! The idea would be this: to pick one small nation that seems to be regularly producing regens, bring them into your youth/reserve set-up and see if you can set them off on careers and raise the standard of their national team.
There would be no obligation to keep the players long-term or to play them in the first team (unless you get a real gem of course). You just need to sign them, have them complete at least a full season at your club and them bring them through the ranks or sell them on. Then, you need to keep track of the national side and see how the development of these players affects their international performance. Obviously the key here would be to set the relevant international competitions your chosen Islanders compete in to full detail so the players can make a difference. For example, over the least 4 or 5 seasons in my gundo save, Democratic Republic of Congo and Turk & Caicos Islands have produced a lot of regens so I would need to set all African or North American competitons to full detail dependin gon which nation I went with.
Reports on the players and the nations would then go into the thread making it a kind of 'experimental challenge' I guess. Would anyone be interested in doing this as well? If not, would their be interest in following what's happening in my save as an experiment?
It's always Guinea n mine for some reason, all you'd have to do is put comments on how your chosen NAton and the players you take on are progressing? This could be very interesting f we get a few people in
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. The main aim would be to see if keeping those players in the game and maybe passing them onto other clubs would improve the fortunes of their country. Kind of like seeing how you can influence the course of the game beyond just the club you are managing and the leagues you are in.
I could certainly do that on my Everton game, we're in the 2020s so theres plenty of regens and I have plenty of money to invest in players, I'll buy the whole Guinea side!
Also if you want a hand with anything then I can help, the CSE Euros only has 3 challenges left to be made and I'm waiting for Frazza to finish in the other Experiment so I've got nowt to do really, it stops my GF from making me watch fricking flick chicks too!
Last edited by roberto922; 23-08-2008 at 18:47.
I'm trying it out now. I'll tell you what happens in a bit, I was thinking of something, how about if you create a side and stick all the players from an obscure nations in, give them perfect facilities and see what happens?
I think I will open a thread for this over the weekend so we can post our updates in there. Just need to write the op and establish how it should be done.
Like the other idea but that sounds more like a 1 man experiment. If you give it a go, I'd be interested to see what happens though.
I've gone from having nothing to do to having 3-4 things to do over the next week I'll do it then though if I remember.
I've had this floating around for a while now not sure how it will be recieved or if its been done before.
Basically the top 44 nations in the Fifa ranking are put in the Premiership and Championship along with their squads and coaches. The rules would be to only have players from the country of your team in your squad and the aim is for your club to win all cups and for your nation to win all of the international tournaments. The squads would be chosen from media prediction against fifa rankings.
Just an idea could run as sign up or challenge. Tell me if its a rubbish idea or not....
That's a point I forgot to PM him.
Yeah I did a similar thing on FM07 with the Scottish Leagues. I'm currently getting some people from the forum to create one for FM08 which will be an improvement on the last one.
Thinking of running it as a quick challenge before FM09 comes out.
PM me if you fancy helping out with the database.
Why don't you see if Antfm want's to help out with it WW?
Lol, I'm half asleep I didn't notice that bit lol .
A little announcement/story/poll
As you all know, or should know, about a week ago I left my sign-up 'The All American Managerial Contest' mainly because i'd lost interest in it, and didn't want it to die, so decided to let someone else run it.
Literally hours after this, I was thinking of ideas for a new sign-up, my initial idea was a 'England vs Germany' sign-up, where I would create a teams worth of each nationality, then they would each secure points through a series of seasons, the end would show who truly is better. But then I thought that the 'German' thing would cause problems, and after a brief discussion with dafuge, it was evident this couldn't happen.
I then changed Germany to France, making an English vs France sign-up, prior to my 1 week holiday I was almost certain that I would be making this sign-up, so much so that Robert had signed up for it before I went away, as he wouldn't be around when the sign-up would be 'started'.
Whilst away on my holiday, during the first few days I missed playing FM, during that period of time I thought about my 'sign-up' and decided on perhaps making something more original, I experimented on the possible idea of an experiment/sign-up, where there would be around 100 players, each naturally not English, but with English as a second Nation, they would start their career at a random English side and the idea would be to see how many would become English, but then I realised that 100 people couldn't play for a National side, so that was the end of that idea.
On around Day 2 of my holiday I completely forgot about FM, enjoying my holiday, and I never looked back, until yesterday when I returned home.
Since then I thought about the popularity of canvey!!'s Apprentice Sign-Up, and Bermy's Dragons Den sign-up, and saw a real gap in the market of the 'TV' sign-ups category, so I today I have been going through possible TV sign-ups and have since then narrowed it down to just 4.
If i'm allowed to, then i'd like to create a page just for the poll, and then decide which one of the four to do.
I wont disclose the 4 ideas yet, but I believe which ever one that is chosen will attract a lot of interest, and will make a very good sign-up.
American Inventor it can follow your american theme
Surely your 100 player sign up / experiment would work if you gave each person a different nation?!
For one, that would be quite interesting to see in that scenario
If I was you, I'm not sure how inclined I'd be to share 4 ideas, if you're only going to ever use 1. Maybe best just to ge one of the ideas nailed down, I'm sure it would be popular whatever it was.
Btw, the 'Dragon's Den' thing was an idea that was tagged on at the end, I can't even watch the program here, it was completely incidental to the idea
Big Brother maybe? or I'm a celeb
I'm doing that long lost classic [Insert name ] hopefully, I need to find a league in FM that doesn't have promotion or relegation though (NOT the MLS though)
Last edited by roberto922; 24-08-2008 at 15:33.
what long lost classic ?
How about the scottish div 3 ?
It has promotion smithers, I've changed my mind about telling you just yet
Are yeah sorry doh ,
Is it a challenge or a sign up ?
I haven't decided yet, chances are it'll be a sign up but it could just be an experiment, it depends on how much interest there is really
Brilliant Peru and Singapore don't have relegation, it'll almost definitely be set in Singapore as Peru has some stupid rules.
going along with what Bermy said, I probably will go ahead with the one I see the easiest and the one that could work with FM the best.
Heres an intro to the challenge I'm considering:
Survivor: FM Edition
Hello and welcome to Survivor, I'm your host Robert Jones. Tonight sees the beginning of a new era here on Survivor. 12 clubs have been created by Villiam Geets, Bill Gates' Dutch cousin, He has set aside £100 million to each club, this money will take stadium, training facilities etc into consideration. 12 lucky viewers will decide the futures of their clubs through how wise their choices are.
Now it's time to throw some rivalry into the mix, the league will be split into 3 groups: The Bandits, The Pirates and The Merchants. You lot will be the main force behind any success that the clubs have. At the end of each season Villiam will donate a further £50 Million to each group, the members of the groups will then decide what to do with the money (Put it in the transfer budget, wage budget, expand stadium etc.) and I will then fix it using FMM.
So come on over to the nation of CSE-topia and enjoy the sunshine but be warned now and then I will set tasks for each group in the form of challenges, these will either benefit or damage your club/group depending on how well you do.
So will you be the saviour of your chosen group or will you proceed to destroy any good work made by your fellow members? Only time will tell.
Last edited by roberto922; 24-08-2008 at 16:58.
You want everything in the world right? Wrong. Nothing in this life is free, take what you need and leave it at that. All this will make sense once you've read the post after this so don't go getting in a huff!
1,000: £0
2,000: £5 Million
3,000: £10 million
4,000: £15 million
5,000: £20 million
6,000: £25 million
7,000: £30 million
8,000: £35 million
9,000: £40 million
10,000: £45 million
Stadium Capacity:
5,000: £1 million
10,000: £3 million
15,000: £5 million
20,000: £7 million
25,000: £10 million
30,000: £12 million
35,000: £15 million
45,000: £20 million
55,000: £25 million
65,000: £30 million
75,000: £35 million
Training Facilities: £1 million per digit up to 10, £2 million per digit from 11 up to 20
Youth Facilities: £1 million per digit up to 10, £2 million per digit from 11 up to 20
Youth Academy: £10 million
Assistant Manager: £250,000 per 10 CA Points
£1,000,000 per 20 CA Points up to 100 CA (e.g A player with 100 CA = £5 million)
£2,000,000 per 20 CA Points up to 150 CA (e.g. A player with 140 CA = £9 million)
£3,000,000 per 20 CA Points up to 200 CA (e.g. A player with 200 CA = £17.5 million
The remaining money goes into the transfer budget
Last edited by roberto922; 24-08-2008 at 17:52.
Design Infrastructure
Right then now it's time for the fun part, let's design your club, bear in mind that you're on a budget
Budget: £200 million
Club Name:
Short Name:
Six Letter Name:
Second Nickname(Optional)
Year Founded:
Stadium Name:
Stadium Capacity:
Training Facilities:
Youth Facilities:
Youth Academy?
Home Kit :-
Away Kit :-
Third Kit:-
Assistant Manager:
7 subs
Right then, opinions are welcomed good or bad
imo it looks very similar to Bermy's Dragons Den-ish sign-up
Nah, this is like an interactive sign up, the players get more of a voice on what happens in the sign up.
If you are putting money beside reputation then you need to massively alter the reputation budget. Having a 10,000 rep is worth a lot more than a 75,000 stadium.
Oh yeah I hadn't noticed that lol
1,000: £0
2,000: £5 Million
3,000: £10 million
4,000: £15 million
5,000: £20 million
6,000: £25 million
7,000: £30 million
8,000: £35 million
9,000: £40 million
10,000: £45 million
The budgets only £200 million though.
1,000: £0
2,000: £7.5 Million
3,000: £15 million
4,000: £22.5 million
5,000: £30 million
6,000: £37.5 million
7,000: £45 million
8,000: £52.5 million
9,000: £60 million
10,000: £67.5 million
You need to set the barrier for high rep really high as otherwise everyone will get 10,000 rep clubs and attract the best players over time.
Oh yeah
I've set it like so:
1,000: £0
2,000: £10 Million
3,000: £20 million
4,000: £30 million
5,000: £40 million
6,000: £50 million
7,000: £60 million
8,000: £70 million
9,000: £80 million
10,000: £90 million
Are you gonna sign up WW?
I wondered how long it would take for a plethora of TV sign-ups to spring up after I started my Apprentice one - so that's three so far, right?
I think Bermy said that it wasn't originally based on Dragons Den
Yeah, he did, so you could count it either way. For the sake of my ego, I'm going to count it as a TV show thread .
Hi I thought of an idea for a sign up but I'm not sure if its been done before or not. It would be a basic create a player sign up however each player would be able pick up to six attributes to have at 20 but for every one they put at 20 they must pick one to make 1 (or 20 for injury proness/dirtiness).
For example:
1st name: Anthoney
2nd: Example
Strenghs (Atrriubtes at 20): Finishing, Pace
(so because he picked two at 20 he must pick two to be 1)
Weakness (attributes at 1): Pace, Heading
It would be limited to 20 players including myself each of which would be assigned to a random club in the premeirship.
If there is interest I would need to run a small experiment to find out the ideal begining CA please let me know either here if there is interest.
Having a bit of a problem with getting the test db right the attributes I put at 1 keep raising themselves to 13 and 14 (I think it might be because i just used the top 6 as a test and the ones that keep raising are too important for a striker ie finishing) any advice would be welcomed.
Last edited by blowcrapup; 25-08-2008 at 13:00. Reason: Problems
Ok got it fixed(ish) now it looks at little better. Let me know if there is interest.
Erm so to have 5 attributes at 20 you must have 5 attributes at 1?
Yes roughly they might be slightly higher as 1s keep getting bumped up. The point of this was so that the person signing up has to carefully pick their strenghs to conteract their weaknesses or they can leave it to fate to leave it random.
Now then, I am currently running a sign up with Robert, but for once I am seriously thinking of starting a sign up which I can run, without spending hours on updates and something which won't break my laptop trying to run.
Then I remembered the fantasy football thing that NepentheZ started. Obviously I will need his permission to use the idea, as it was his idea, but if I get permission I would love to run it. Obviously updates would not be as detailed as Nep's and it may not be as well run as his one was, but hopefully it will still be good enough for everyone.
What does everyone think?
Can you link me to NepentheZ's one? Don't remember that at all.
Nep's one
There you go canvey!!
Yeah it didn't run for too long and the interest was poor (possibly due to the long gap between each update, because of the length of time it took to do an update).
Cheers PH71. Well, it failed for a reason, and I think if you're going to run one of these you'd have to turn a blind eye to people not posting in it because it's the way things are. Nep obviously wasn't happy with the lack of support and interest for what is a mammoth undertaking, and I wouldn't be happy either, but if you can grin and bear it that's up to you. Your best bet for some regular posting would be to only allow those who you know will post regularly to sign-up. I have to say that it's unlikely that I would join in with this, I'm famously lazy. That being said, though, if I did sign up, I would post in it frequently, and not simply forget about it. I'm not that lazy.
Last edited by canvey!!; 25-08-2008 at 19:12. Reason: "You're best bet"???? My grammar is messed up today
Any more thoughts?
Last edited by Ridleys; 26-08-2008 at 13:15.
I must admit I was disappointed by the lack if interest in the fantasy football, Nep did a great job and although my team failed miserably in the first few games, I enjoyed the small bit of it we got. I can't find a good reason for the lack of interest and I certainly can't see any reason why trying it again would keep any more people interested than last time but if you think it's worth a shot then I'm definately interested
Now then onto my own idea which, although the idea came from a previous "failed" thread, I'm hoping is original. Basically it's an adaptation of birdy's The Premiership Draft Thread, sponsored by the Magic Sponge, Bargain Hunting and Sheer Blind Luck
I can see the sign-up process being a fairly lengthy one and it'd require 20 users who aren't going to do a runner after 3 posts but.... each participant is assigned a Premier League team and each participant gets to select one player from each of the other Premier League sides to join their squad whilst at the same time the other participants are stealing their players. Once everybody has made their 19 picks I'll get rid of the rest of the players that started at the club and you'll have to take on the competition with whoever you've managed to aquire plus whoever your manager brings in before the transfer window closes.
I've put a fair bit of thought into it and have more info than what I've put above but I think what's there is enough for people to see what I mean without going into great detail, if not feel free to ask any questions.
I was thinking maybe, I would choose the people who could sign up, so instead of just allowing any old person to just come in and post, I would choose people who have a fairly good record of posting frequently in sign ups.
yeah, but that could be classed as discriminating
Yes maybe, but I don't want to waste my time writing updates, for people that don't show any interest. They will be wating my time and their own time. If they sign up, they should follow it through, and for a sign up like this, the signupees will be involved as well (eg. making transfers etc).
Maybe just not allow people that have been around since, say, 2006 and only posted 200 times, I think it would be unfair to rule out people that signed up last week or something like that.
I do recall on the GTA Forums there were social groups (similar to our social group) where you could only join if you had an average of 1 post per day. This would prove you were going to post regularly in the social group. Something like that would be the best way to police it.
In response to Whoopy D, I'm not too keen on that idea. It's obvious that players like Fernando Torres would be snapped up before you could say "Liverpool's Number 9", and that places Liverpool at a disadvantage. Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal would have similar situations. The only teams that would benefit are ones like Derby (assuming '08), but for relegation fodder they would have their players pinched. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Most challenges are about youth players how about
Golden Oldies sign up
Basically each person would be allowed to choose 6 32 and over players for their team and would be randomly assigned youth players to make up the rest of the squad.
Golden Oldies Fc this team would replace Derby
Squad would only have players who are 32 and over in it and the aim would be for the player to win as many cups as possible and to do it only by using old players.
Birdy and I were joking earlier about C.F Leyendas (my FM07 sign-up), and we got onto the topic about how it ended, where in the sign-up we had a newspaper, and the writer (Jonny Kaufman) came up with a story about how the club was destroyed after winning another La Liga title by it's own players. However, we got to thinking that perhaps this didn't really happen, and the paper made up the story, which has led to an idea for an FM09 sign-up...
The plan here would be to have members of the board to sign-up for the new C.F. Leyendas team, and fight their way up the league and eventually become better than bitter rivals The Yellow Star FC. TYSFC will be made up of fictional players who had links to the original Leyendas sign-up or have a spin on the new players names (though if there's enough interest they could also be made up of forum users), as suggested by Birdy, and they will have high CAs and PAs as they're playing for the best team in the world. The main question is whether anyone here actually remembers/was around at the time of the original sign-up, or if the back story would make any sense to you as you weren't previously involved or knew of it? It's a shame that the sign-up was deleted in "the purge", or you'd be able to take a look at that to see what I mean regarding The Yellow Star and the general Leyendas background. It would be possible for me to recap the original history of C.F. Leyendas as I still have the FM07 save, but it would lead to the sign-up starting pretty much as a story until it actually began. Great thanks to Birdy aswell for his ideas in this.C.F. Leyendas - Revealing the Conspiracy
It's 2008, 2 years (perhaps 10-20 to make it realistic) since C.F. Leyendas folded after the stadium was destroyed and the players killed in an explosion, a conspiracy has been uncovered that C.F. Leyendas were never destroyed, and in fact the Stadium is still in tact but it was a false story published by the Leyendas paper "The Yellow Star" to get rid of the club. Sensationally, "The Yellow Star" planned to get rid of Leyendas and then persuade the Spanish FA to let them enter a team into the Spanish La Liga to replace the open slot in the league, which they did, and The Yellow Star FC was formed. It was also revealed that they took Leyendas' stadium, "El Agujero Del Fango" and renamed it "Estadio Estrella" to cover up the destruction of Leyendas' stadium, and they somehow managed to prevent anyone from realising this! Once the conspiracy was revealed, the FA couldn't punish the team as it was an offence by the newspaper, not the club. They could however, put TYS FC's manager and owner, 'The Editor', on trial for conspiracy to defraud and commit murder. However, as they police circled in on him, he mysteriously disappeared. A week later before the start of the season, The Yellow Star appointed the mysterious "JK" as their new manager. At this point, The Yellow Star (newspaper) stopped publishing for the near future.
C.F. Leyendas had been silenced until this day by "The Yellow Star"'s officials, led by "The Editor", a few players had disappeared over the years such as Riho Ruutel, Chidraus Saxauskas and Jonny Kaufman, though they are suspected to have fled and are in hiding from TYS and their people. The other players have also hidden, but have now returned as the cover-up has been exposed. They've been in contact with the police, however there is little evidence on who TYS' operatives are other than "The Editor", but even then no-one is sure of his real identity. The former players however, are now too old to play competitive football, and are rallying former supporters of C.F. Leyendas to help revive the club. However, with a lack of support and the former players' hope deminishing, former manager Luis Valquez reforms C.F. Leyendas and has them put into the Spanish Second Division B for the upcoming season. Using money from his time at Leyendas, he appoints a team of staff entirely from former players, and aims to rebuild the team completely and fight up the leagues. His main aim - to avenge The Yellow Star and knock their football team off the top. It'll be a tough ask for an ageing Valquez, can he still do the job at his age? Or will he have to put faith in former players to restore the team. Only time will tell.
From what i've heard of it, the original sign-up was one of the best sign-ups in the history of the forum, i'd love to be able to take part in this proposed 'revival'
I think it's a great idea
Sounds great! I wasn't around for that sign-up but I've heard in mentioned many times on the forum and I'm sure the same must be true for many of the other users who've started coming here since FM 08 was released. I'm sure interest would be high.
Maybe the deltion of the original Leyendas thread in 'the purge' could be incorporated into the new thread as part of the Yellow Star's attempts to cover up the past.
Still if nobody likes the idea I won't think anymore about it
I'm intrigued by it, and think it could be very interesting Whoopy
Just thinking maybe it'd be better for my idea if I created 20 new clubs to replace those currently in the EPL and then the new clubs had 1 pick of the players from each of the previous clubs, that way it would avoid people taking the same view as canvey!! although I completely understand where he's coming from
I want to start my own Challenge. The enjoyment Daf's and Gundo's challenge brings is immense, and I applaud that. But as Daf's Challenge is singled out to England, and Gundo has selected nations, I'd perhaps like to have my challenge as the N. Irish version of Dafs. Obviously, its hardly "my challenge" - as it comes under Gundos - but the majority of Gundo's Challengers play in N. Ireland, and a seperate challenge thread may prove wise. Obviously, this may take a lot away from Gundo's thread, so I'd basically like some thoughts on the matter of singling out the nation.
I've also got a couple other challenges in mind, which are for FM09 - But I'm finding it quite hard to come up with something original, interesting and challenging.!
Would splitting one coutry away from the challenge not lead to a thread for each country in the challenge?
Have you looked into starting the same challenge for a different continent that hasn't previously been started? I know that one was done for South America, but was one ever done for the Asian countries?
I was thinking myself that it would be nice to have my own challenge for FM09, but couldn't come up with anything. My main idea would have been doing something along the same lines as Dafuge / Gundo but for Asia, although I don't think it will prove to be as popular as the others.
I could do it for other continents, but the demand there isn't high, and it wouldn't get nearly as many participants as I'd like. The only other thing I'd thought of, is doing something practically the same as Daf's / Gundo's challenge, but with no real players.
just an idea, but you could base it on a film/trilogy, I saw a ffb LOTR one in FMS, perhaps you could loosely base it on a film/trilogy like Rocky/Star Wars etc
I think some more stuctured challenges could prove to be popular as long as the goals are clear and acheivable. Take crouchaldino's 'Britain/India Challenge' for example. Maybe something along the lines of starting in a 'small' league with a new club and working your way through a 'medium' league before going onto a 'top' league?
I'd say wait until the announcement next week, that might give you a few ideas.
I can predict already that if they implement the 'create a league' feature into the game then there will be a whole raft of sign up / challenges / AI Experiments based around such a feature.
My concern with that is that TOO many sign ups/challenges/AI Experiments will come from that, and all sense of originality is gone within 3 weeks of FM09's release
My prediction for the game, fwiw, is a massive overhaul of the tactical system. Something intuitive, no mor slidey bar nonsense, with the ability to design proper set piece routines etc.
I've been bouncing my own ideas around, and the fake players thing seems most logical. However, if what has been mentioned about Creating a league, That would open a whole new world of ideas up for me, and I'd definitely get a decent challenge running then.
While we are here, the recent idea I had of combining the career discussion from the club threads in the GPTG forum seems to have died so I'm think about ideas for career based threads in this forum.
We already have 'the career thread' which has basically been used for people starting at the bottom and working their way up, there is also the 'big club edition' which is here on trial to see how it goes. I'd be interested to hear variations on these types of threads, so people have more of a choice here about what sort of career game they could play.
Maybe calling it a career game is too limiting, perhaps we should have more threads based around specific challenges which would be based around games people would be playing anyway, for example 'win the league with a team outside the 'big four' or 'take a Championship team to the Champions League Title'.
I think in order to create variations of career threads we need to say what sort of save games are being left out of the career thread at the moment that we think should go in the career thread?
Well a simple title would sort that out canvey!!. A thread titled "I am NOT the big 4 - Career Thread" - or something similar could easily help distinguish between them. Obviously, if 20 people made these Challenge/Career threads, we'd end up having 1 for each team, which wouldn't be fun. But it could possibly work.
I think you've misunderstood me Neppo. Right here, in this thread, we need to make a list of the types of save games that currently don't fit in to either of the career threads. Only then can we go some way to making decent and functional variations.
It could be hard work to get up and running, perhaps the simple 'start from the bottom/don't start from the bottom' split is easiest?
Yes, that's probably best. I don't feel there are any type of save that can't be covered by those two.
A couple of suggestions:
The Giants career thread - I know this can be in the big club career thread but I've noticed that most people in that thread are going for Middle teams like Coventry, they take control of one of the clubs that are giants at the start of the game, maybe a minimum rep of 8500 to qualify?
Finished challenges thread - Alot of people complete challenges and then continue to enjoy the save games created for the challenges, this could be a thread for them to discuss their careers after they finish the challenges so that they don't clog up the challenges thread.
Sleeping Giants thread - Players take control of clubs that have been in the top league of their country (Perhaps just teams that have won titles etc.) but have, in recent years, dropped down the divisions and now turn out in one of the lower leagues of their nation (League One downwards in England?).
All One nationality thread - Obviously it wouldn't be called this as it's a terrible title but - This could be a thread where players try to take a chosen team to their Nations top domestic title using only players of the clubs nationality.
Career achievements - Perhaps an archive where everyone can post and update their season histories? It could be quite helpful I feel
I like the 'career achievements' idea. It would be a good place for people to compare their non-challenge saves without the obligation to write reports.
Maybe we could have an 'international career' thread. I know it's not the most popular aspect of the game for everybody but several people in the two career threads we have atm seem to be getting into the international jobs and MadWoodster's Challenge was popular when FM 08 was first released. Players focusing solely on international jobs as well as those combining it with club careers could post in it to keep it as open as possible.
I think that's a great idea DodgeeD
Does anyone mind me restarting fmfans sign up?
The sega championships or whatever it was called or am I completely wrong?


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WEIRTON - It was Senior Night Monday inside the Carl Hamill Fieldhouse and things couldn't have worked out better for Weir High's basketball team.
Mike Granato's club reeled off 11 straight points to break open a tight contest (there were 16 lead changes before the Red Rider run) and dispose of John Marshall 59-43.
"I told the kids after practice Saturday that our four seniors deserved a night like tonight," Granato said. "I also told them everyone should work their tails off to give them that. They (the seniors) have given our program everything they have.
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AS A TEAM — Weir's Dylan Cassiadoro drives the baseline during the second quarter of the Red Riders' second win of the season Monday.
-- Mike Mathison
"We all wish we could have won more games but our seniors never quit. They have great character. Teams that are 1-19 don't play with the kind of effort we showed tonight."
John Marshall, now 5-15, took a 39-37 lead early in the final stanza thanks to a Ryan Davis triple. From there, it was all Weir.
Senior Dylan Cassiadoro knotted the score when he converted an Andre Sims pass into two points. Sims put the Riders up for good (41-39), scoring from the paint off an assist from senior Shane Davis. A third senior, Josh Groves, recorded a deuce after a nifty pass from Michael Curtis.
Sims knocked down three of four free tosses and Shane Davis tallied off a long pass from Curtis to finish the burst and put the Riders up 48-39. The fourth Rider 12th grader, Nate Masters, making his first start, stretched the advantage to 56-41 on his drive to the hoop.
In outscoring the Monarchs 24-11 during the final frame, Weir knocked down 10 of 15 field goal tries.
"We just started beating their pressure," Granato explained when asked about the fourth period blitz. "It was a matter of confidence. We've been in that situation the past few games and we didn't finish plays. Tonight, we finished plays. We made a lot of layups. One shot led to two and two led to three.
"The kids started being confident. That helped us block out better, handle their press better and play better defense."
John Marshall's Bill Storm felt the fourth quarter was a case of "same old, same old."
"The game was tied, we missed two dead layups and a couple of free throws," he noted. "They beat us for a layup and that gave them the lead. Then we got into a three-point shooting contest which we will lose every time. We just didn't shoot well (the Monarchs finished 14 for 49 from the floor) and a lot of the shots we missed were inside the paint.
"They were getting breakaways and I don't know how that happened. We were loafing on defense and we just quit."
Weir shot extremely well in the first quarter, hitting eight of 11, to grab an 18-14 lead. Sims (he was four for four) and Cassiadoro (he hit all three of his attempts) scored eight points each.
The Riders went cold in the second, nailing just three of 12, but still led by one (26-25) at the intermission. Ryan Davis and Evan Magers combined for more than half of John Marshall's first half points. The Monarchs were just eight of 19 from the floor but stayed closed by hitting seven of 11 free tosses.
Weir's Davis swished back-to-back triples in the third, allowing the Riders to grab a 35-32 advantage heading into the final eight minutes. Tanner Filben accounted for six of JM's seven points.
Sims paced the Riders in scoring with 18. He completed the double-double by hauling down 11 of Weir's 26 rebounds. Shane Davis added 12 and recorded four steals. Cassiadoro finished with 10.
"After our last game with Brooke, I told the kids it was either the end or the beginning," Granato said. "Our four seniors decided it was going to be the beginning. The last three games have been our best games of the year. It's a time when you want to be playing your best basketball of the year.
"Our seniors are just great kids. They all played a major part in us winning this game. We appreciate the way they have gone about their business."
Ryan Davis had 11 for John Marshall, which entertains Barnesville today. Filben added 10. Magers contributed eight points and grabbed eight rebounds. The Monarchs had 35 as a team.
Weir, 2-19, begins Region 1, Section 1 play Saturday, visiting Oak Glen. The tip is set for 7 p.m.
"I know it's a cliche, but everyone is 0-0 right now," Granato noted. "We have a tough battle with Oak Glen. We split with them in the regular season and they have been playing better also. We have a few days to prepare, get things ready and hopefully come out on top.
"I was real happy for our fans tonight. They got into the game in the fourth quarter and that played a major role in us winning. We need them Saturday up at Oak Glen. They contributed to our momentum. That's part of basketball at any level, no doubt about it."
Weir 59, John Marshall 43
John Marshall 14 11 7 11 - 43
Weir 18 8 9 24 - 59
JOHN MARSHALL (5-15): Och 2 0-0 5; R. Davis 3 4-6 11; Kibert 1 1-2 3; Filben 4 2-2 10; Whitfield 0 1-3 1; Horan 0 0-0 0; Smith 0 2-4 2; Magers 3 1-5 8; Whorton 0 1-2 1; Sobutka 1 0-2 2. TOTALS: 14 12-26 43. 3-pointers: Och, R. Davis, Magers; Rebounds 35 (Magers 8); Turnovers: 15.
WEIR (2-19): Masters 1 1-2 3; Knight 1 0-0 2; Viakley 0 0-0 0; Wood 3 0-0 6; S. Davis 5 0-0 12; Cassiadoro 4 0-0 10; Groves 2 2-5 6; Sims 7 4-6 18; Curtis 1 0-1 2. TOTALS: 24 7-13 59. 3-pointers: Cassiadoro (2), S. Davis (2); Rebounds: 26 (Sims 11); Turnovers: 16.


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The 9 Most Badass Bible Verses
#6. Judges 3:16-23
They say that history repeats itself, and this verse illustrates that clearly. Our hero Ehud came up with the idea of concealing a weapon by strapping it to his body several thousand years before John McClane did in Die Hard.
Instead of strapping it to his back, Ehud chose to tie it to his thigh. One wonders why the royal guards didn't comment when they frisked Elud and felt 18 inches of rigid steel in his pants. Maybe, they just assumed he was Egyptian.
After bypassing the tight security, Ehud continues to act like a Bruce Willis character by busting out a snappy one liner: "I have a message from God for you," he declares shortly before whipping out his blade and shanking the evil, grotesquely obese King Eglon in the belly.
Really, the only way to improve on this would be by shoehorning an awful pun into it, such as "You should really cut down on your fat intake!" or "Looks like being king takes guts!" As he leaves, Ehud shows he hasn't forgotten his good manners by considerately shutting the door behind him. It doesn't say if he went flying across rooftops Assassin's Creed-style, so we're forced to assume he did.
As bad as the delivery of that particular message from God went for Eglon, he got off lucky. As you'll see, God sometimes delivers the message himself.
#5. Numbers 16:23, 31-33
The above happened years after Moses killed the Egyptian guy and led a country's worth of Hebrews into the desert where they wandered aimlessly for several decades (as seen in The Ten Commandments). At some point, a troublemaker named Korah and 250 supporters banded together and aired a series of complaints about the fact that they were wandering aimlessly in the desert.
God listened carefully to their complaints, weighed their points, then made the earth eat them alive. The text does not make it clear whether or not the earth made that "OM NOM NOM" sound, so scholars are forced to speculate.
This really puts things in perspective for the anti-religion critics. They can complain all they want about religious "intolerance" and pushy evangelicals trying to censor TV and annoy people into conversion. But, that's a hell of an improvement over the situation during the Exodus, when God would feed nonbelievers to the mighty Sarlacc.
Two verses later, God sends down a ball of fire and incinerates the other 250 rebels. You have to imagine there was a moment of tentative relief when the 250 rebels saw that they had not been swallowed up along with Korah. "Yeah," they probably said. "Thank you! We were just about to bury that asshole ourselves! Fortunately, we all have learned the error of our rebellious ways and--hey, what's that ... AAARRRGGGHHH! FIRE!!"
#4. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
This is a man's law, right here. When Conan became king at the end of Conan the Destroyer, you can bet he made sure there was a rule just like this his first day in office. "Ladies, we respect your right to resolve disputes in whatever manner you feel necessary for the situation. But, DO NOT GRAB THE JUNK."
The words in the Bible are actually those of God, speaking to the Hebrews and taking time to add the junk-grab rule into the supplemental commandments that didn't make it into the original 10. This had to be right after God realized his plan for a male-dominated society had a fatal flaw, which is that the women could prevail in any conflict simply by grabbing the men's junk.
Now, you nervous, liberal types are complaining that this is barbaric and misogynistic. Perhaps, a little context helps. Just a couple of pages earlier, in Deuteronomy 23:1, we get this:
"Emasculated by crushing?" Gah! Everything in the Bible has to be understood in context of the times these people were living in. And, apparently, these people lived in a time when "crushing" the nuts was so common that the crushed-nuts victims were an entire demographic that had to be accounted for in the law. Call these commandments savage if you want, but if you were God, how many nuts would you have to see "crushed" before you overreacted? We're thinking the answer is two.
Of course, if you're not a believer and don't think this "grab the nuts, lose a hand" commandment is from the almighty at all, then it becomes obvious what happened: The rule was handed down by some angry clergyman within the first minute or so of having his junk crushed. All perspective tends to go out the window at that moment.


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What's the deal with coupon printing?
Wow, it took me like 50 tries to make woot accept my question as a question. It kept just telling me to rephrase it as a question. Anywho, I have a few basic (I think) questions about coupon printing. That if anyone here could answer that would be awesome.
1. How do you start? Is there a website? An app?
2. Do most places accept them?
3. Do they need to be printed any special way?
4. If you think there should be a 4th or so on question, just add it and let me know.
Thanks wooters!
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For future reference, it's only a request when prompted to rephrase the question. You can just hit the button and it will be submitted without any changes at all.
As to the question: Noooo. Evilness. There are so many coupon sites out there at require installation of the "printing software". Sometimes it's explicitly a virus that screws your computer up. Other times it's just a bad program that, without malicious intent, screws your computer up. Either way, your computer will get screwed up.
I'm sure there are legit ones out there, but proceed with caution. I'm sure if they exist someone here will vote me down then provide the answer to you. :)
Go to www.coupons.com. Download the printer software they request, which is the same software that's used by every major food site (kraft.com, for example) I've ever run across.
My own rule of thumb is that any site that doesn't use that printer is not a site I want to trust.
Here are other tidbits hidden away in similar questions, most are a good read.
reputable sites I've found and I believe they all use the same printer
Red Plum
All You
Target - which you can use at Walmart ;9)
Coupon Cabin
Walgreen's - also can use at walmart
Thanks everybody for the posts so far. I have printed out a bunch of coupons today and will go to walmart and hopefully they work.
@comeonstealme: as you plan to shop at Walmart, I HIGHLY suggest you print a copy of the Walmart coupon policy and carry it with you (http://forthemommas.com/store-deals/walmart-coupon-policy)
many cashiers and even managers don't actually understand their own policy - the printable version spells it out so they can't help but understand. you'll need it, unless you're very lucky. i keep a color copy in my purse for just such an occasion.
i personally use coupons.com, as well as everything else listed thus far. i also tend to go to my local store (Jewel, here) on Sunday evening or Monday to buy an "old" Sunday paper for $.50 or $.25 depending on what manager is currently working. The coupon insert is absolutely worth it.
I created an email addy expressly for coupons. sign up for EVERYONE'S list - you'll get coupons emailed ALL the time.
don't forget that Target allows you to use both a Target coupon AND a manufacturer's coupon on the same item...HUGE savings available this way.
@gregorylikescheapstu: FWIW coupons.com used to be the devil, but after all the internet backlash, they've cleaned up their game. the software no longer does anything but let you print the coupons & ensure that you don't find a way to print more than you're allowed.
i fully understand that they want to limit the printing (most likely based on their contract with the manufacturers), and appreciate that they've since removed the malware part of their software.
i believe the same was previously true of the smartsource coupon printer, but i didn't use it back in the day, so I can't speak to it specifically.
either way, both appear to be clean now, and pass multiple screenings on multiple computers for me.
yay savings!
Excellent place to learn and to continue your coupon use. Makes it very easy and time/money-efficient
there are 3 main engines for printing legitimate coupons from the web
and e-centives
each has their own little applet that needs to be installed to prevent abuse/fraud.
smartsource is one of the two major national coupon distributors that also does sunday newspaper inserts and the blinking little coupon machines in stores
Coupons dot com is the big name when it comes to internet printable coupons
e-centives is used by target on their website
all are harmless and have been around for years, and you can save a boatload of money using them.
most big stores will take them (target, walmart, kmart, safeway, krogers, etc) while some chains and smaller stores will not. I shop at winco foods, a west coast grocery chain, and they don't take internet printed coupons.
here's a fairly complete list of current "IP" (internet printable) coupons currently available in alphabetical order with links:
@gregorylikescheapstu: That's why you just print them out on a shared workstation at the office. If you haven't checked, chances are there is coupon printing software already installed on it.


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Erma Hart Mullen, 93, homemaker of Augusta, Kansas, passed away Monday, December 24, 2012. Visitation Thursday 5-7 pm at Headley Funeral Chapel and Service 10:00 am Friday, December 28, 2012, at First Baptist Church, Augusta. Burial will follow at Elmwood Cemetery Augusta, Kansas.
Erma was born in rural Towanda, Kansas on March 5, 1919, to the late Clara Rachel (Parsley) and Roy Lynn Carlisle.
She married Virgil Ivan Hart on Jan. 11, 1941 at Oil Hill, KS. He preceded her in death on Aug. 27, 1949.
She married Curtis Eugene Mullen on Dec. 4, 1950 in Newkirk, OK. He preceded her in death in August of 1963.
She is survived by: sons, Larry Hart and wife Bea of Augusta; and Virgil Hart and wife Jean of Plainview, TX; daughter, Kay Williams and husband David of Augusta; 5 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
She was also preceded in death by a daughter, Janice Lynne; brothers, Lynn, George and Glynn Carlisle; and a sister, Eva Carlisle.
Memorial donations to First Baptist Church 1501 State Street Augusta, Kansas 67010 or the donor's choice.
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TOPEKA – The Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) wants to remind the public to have their animals vaccinated against rabies by a veterinarian. With 13 animals testing positive for rabies in Kansas since January 1st, health officials here anticipate an increase in the number of rabid animals this year compared to last year.
The 13 rabid animals included four skunks, two bats, two horses, two cows, one cat, one coyote and one raccoon. None of the domestic animals were vaccinated against rabies.
"We have a significantly higher number of confirmed rabid animals this year, 13, compared to just four during the same time in 2011," said KDHE State Public Health Veterinarian Dr. Ingrid Garrison. Since 2007, there has been an average of 68 cases of rabid animals a year in Kansas.
Vaccines are available for dogs, cats, ferrets, horses, cattle and sheep. "People understand the importance of vaccinating dogs and cats against rabies but often forget about vaccinating horses," said Dr. Garrison. "Although vaccination of all cattle and sheep is not practical, we encourage vaccination of valuable breeding stock and show animals." Animals need to have periodic boosters of vaccine to maintain proper protection. Your city or county may have ordinances that require proof of rabies vaccination for your pet.
The risk for human exposure to rabies is real but preventable. Animal rabies is common in Kansas, and skunks are the animals most likely to have the disease. However, skunks can pass the virus to other animals, such as dogs, cats, cattle and horses. Prevention of human rabies depends on vaccinating domestic animals, eliminating human exposures to stray and wild animals, and providing exposed persons with prompt post-exposure rabies treatment.
"Vaccinating animals against rabies not only protects our pets, but our families as well," said Dr. Garrison.
KDHE offers these tips to prevent rabies:
* Have your veterinarian vaccinate all dogs, cats, ferrets, horses and valuable breeding stock and show animals (cattle and sheep) against rabies.
* If bitten by an animal, seek medical attention and report the bite to your local public health department or animal control department immediately.
* If your animal is bitten, contact your veterinarian or local health department for advice.
* If you wake up in a room with a bat present, even if there is no evidence of a bite or scratch, seek medical attention.
* Do not handle or feed wild animals. Never adopt wild animals or bring them into your home.
* Do not try to nurse sick wild animals back to health. Call animal control or an animal rescue agency for assistance.
* Teach children never to handle unfamiliar animals, wild or domestic, even if they appear friendly.
For more information about rabies, contact your veterinarian, local health department or the Kansas Department of Health and Environment at 1-877-427-7317.


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George S. McGovern, R.I.P.
Over the weekend there were several requests for a thread about Sen. McGovern who died yesterday at the age of 90, shortly after entering hospice care in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. This post can serve as one.Wikipedia has what seems to be a decent overview of Sen. McGovern's life and career for those looking for an introduction. The Sioux Falls Argus-Leader has collected its coverage here. Eileen McNamara, who cast her first presidential vote for McGovern in 1972, has a lovely and fiery reminiscence by an unrepentant liberal:"He was right about Vietnam, right about the disastrous consequences of income inequality and right about the man whose unprecedented resignation from the presidency in 1974 looms larger than his landslide victory over McGovern two years earlier. McGovern was the last presidential candidate unafraid to prescribe bold action in the face of seemingly overwhelming social problems....During my years in Congress and for the four decades since, Ive been labeled a bleeding-heart liberal. It was not meant as a compliment, but I gladly accept it, McGovern wrote last year. My heart does sometimes bleed for those who are hurting in my own country and abroad. A bleeding-heart liberal, by definition, is someone who shows enormous sympathy towards others, especially the least fortunate. Well, we ought to be stirred, even to tears, by societys ills. And sympathy is the first step toward action. Empathy is born out of the old biblical injunction Love the neighbor as thyself.Theres a hopelessly far left lost liberal cause for you."Please add your own thoughts, reminiscences, observations and prayers below.
About the Author
Luke Hill is a writer and community organizer in Boston. He blogs at dotCommonweal and MassCommons.
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I suspect that part of McGovern's problem was that he was from a state with a tiny, largely agricultural population. In other words, it was assumed he must have been a hick. Bill Clinton, from Arkansas, overcame that particular prejudice and maybe even destroyed it. George McGovern, a wise man. May he rest in peace.
Love thy neighbor as thyself, says Jesus.It seems as if we as a nation are lacking a lot of self-love these days (self-love not to be confused with self-absorption, selfishness, etc.). After all, everything --- good and bad --- starts within.Rest in Peace, Senator.
George McGovern lost the presidential election in 1972 because most American voters at that time were anticommunist war-mongers in favor of fighting an ultimately losing war in Vietnam.I voted for George McGovern in 1972, and I've never regretted that I did.May he rest in peace.
My first vote for a president was cast for McGovern. The man actually stood for something. I would have voted for him over the present two. Sad news, his death, more than the loss of a man. Loss of an age of hope.
I too voted for George McGovern in 1972, and Ive never regretted that I did.I've had enough of GOP presidents who never served except on parade grounds, [except Bush 1] who can't get enough war bluster out their mouths. Tonight we will hear more from the GOP "draft dodger' and even maybe from his non serving five sons. 'take a swing'
Ron Rosenbaum has a fine tribute to McGovern at Slate: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_spectator/2012/10/ge... also an award-winning documentary, One Bright Shining Moment: The Forgotten Summer of George McGovern. You can see about 45 minutes of excerpts from it at http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/19/as_sen_george_mcgovern_nears_deat... those impressed by McGovern was the former president of the Jesuit university in El Salvador, Ignacio Ellacuria S.J. The story was told in the Houston Chronicle on Nov. 21, 1989, under the headline Letters from the Dead:
In one of those eerie coincidences of history, former U.S. Sen. George McGovern picked up his mail last Thursday and found a letter from a priest in El Salvador he had never heard of. The letter was an invitation for the former presidential candidate to make a speech in San Salvador. Written in Spanish, the request had been mailed in October to Rep. Joe Moakley to forward to McGovern, and had been sent to the Library of Congress for translation. After reading the letter, McGovern got into his car, and as he was driving he heard a news dispatch about the murder of six Jesuit priests in San Salvador. Then he heard the name of one of the priests: Ignacio Ellacuria, rector of the University of Central America, the man who had signed the letter.http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1989_665729/newsmakers.html
I voted for the first time when I voted for McGovern, and I suppose I was a one-issue voter on Vietnam. I had worked for McGovern's campaign in my aggressively conservative home town, and thought, when I went back to college that fall, that I would meet more kindred spirits. Ha. The fact that so many of my fellow students on campus, even though it was the first election for Boomers in the 1950-1954 bulge, just didn't care was incredibly depressing.It wasn't until later in life that I realized that McGovern had positions on things other than the Vietnam War, and his losing seemed even more depressing.
I warmly commend Sen. McGovern's acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention in 1972. Today it is easy to call up on YouTube; but in 1972, a chaotic convention delayed his acceptance until 3:00am, when the TV audience had evaporated (a portent of campaign mishaps to come). Sen. McGovern's father was a minister, and his speech shows an ease with scripture that leads in the end to a particularly lovely litany (of the American civic religion type). Readers who were not alive in 1972 might want to note for context that over 20,000 American troops had died in Vietnam during President Nixon's first term in office (out of 56,000 dead since the start of the war). This of course does not begin to comprehend the civilian deaths in South and North Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos.
A good and decent man with a conscience that he acted on. Unfortunately, both his campaign process (chaotic at best) and his decision on his running mate (abandoning him) pushed me in my first presidential vote to lodge a protest vote for Pat Paulsen. (yes, I know, immature and tilting at windmills).McGovern's principled stand against the Vietnam war is what sealed my admiration for him. But, as many say, I don't single issue vote.
McGovern followed the essential Christian Maxim of defending the downtrodden and working to set the captives free. But he forgot the wisdom the Lord recommended when he said we should be wise as serpents while simple as doves. His failure to see that Nixon staged phony hippies to embarass McGovern was shortsighted. While many liked McGovern they were not prepared to let hippies take over the nation which "seemed" to be the case when McGovern spoke sympathetically to a set up group of hippies whom few would invite to their homes. Clinton was smarter and more effective. If McGovern had someone like Clinton as his manager he would have won.
George McGovern was a very good man. He was SD congressman and then senator when I was a kid. I recall my parents met him once and they liked him a lot.Interestingly enough, while he did not get the SD vote when he ran for president, South Dakotans readily returned him to Congress for many years after that.
If you want to read/see more about McGovern, these are definitely worth a look:1. A fine article about him by Cong. Jim McGovern (no relation) in The Nation: http://www.thenation.com/article/170739/george-mcgovern-atticus-finch-am.... A good collection of videos and pictures in Mother Jones: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/george-mcgovern-video-tribute
On Friday, October 26th, C-SPAN will be live at 2:00 PM EDT/1:00 PM CDT with Senator McGoverns funeral.


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Can wind force rain into the soffits?
Apologies if this question was asked before.
I've recently noticed slight paint peeling in two ceiling locations, right next to (two different) undereave vents in my roof. The vents are at the very top of the exterior wall, right under the roof itself. The house was repainted about 1.5 years ago, no peeling elsewhere.
This side of the house is subject to strong wind-driven rain. I'm wondering if rain could be blowing up into the vents. The rain would actually have to travel slightly upward to do so, but the wind gusts are very strong.
Is this plausible? Right now, the vents are covered only by a wire mesh. What would an appropriate replacement be for these conditions?


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Displays the contents of a file, a directory, a disk volume, a magnetic tape volume, or a CD-ROM volume in decimal, hexadecimal, octal format, ASCII, or formatted data structures.
This is frequently used when a file is not a simple text file where the content has a mixture of data types such as strings and integers.
What is the Unix/Linux command for this?