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Same issue - Mac OSX 10.6.8
Same issue - Mac OSX 10.6.8
Same problem...Steam & Mac user (Mac OSX 10.7.3)
if you run steam in off-line mode (to prevent it updating), can you still play FM?
Been loyal to this game since Amiga, down with lung disease, wife and kids shipped of to mother in law, have time to enjoy FM2012 for the first time. Step up, at least provide us with a quick fix.
I know it is quite a task to ask Steam to provide an update to solve this issue, but there MUST be a workaround!?!?!
My info:
Football manager 2012
Latest Steam update
Any news before you leave for weekend !??!?!
Any estimates on when this is solved? Are we wasting our time hoping this will be solved today??
Football Manager 2011 v 11.3.0 f 193246 quit unexpectedly...................... whats going on? how many years do i have to go back???? that is what exactly happen when u buy something.. sad story
211 users browsing this post. At least we're not alone in our suffering for this issue ^_^
same problem mac user osx 10.7.3
Steam is a great system, but this issue is crap.
Do SI have any kind of insurance provision in their contract with steam to provide for loss of image and brand value as a result of such problems?
same problem! I have bougth my mac 2 weeks ago and now i miss my windows PC I hope Steam will do something! And i hope that Sigames never wil use Steam in the future!
The only way to avoid this problem is to avoid shutting down steam BEFORE the update is done, but if you're reading this post it's because you already have the issue. sadly
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Last edited by Thain; 20-04-2012 at 14:24.
Yes. Same for me. The game has stopped working since the new steam client has updated.
However, it is a serious thing that has happened. There may be a game so dependent on an external system
Sooooo, I am browsing this thread from work waiting for the WE and I am a bit worried! I am on Mac, do you think turning off my internet connection, start Steam in offline mode, desactivate auto update in Steam, start FM, then switch on internet connection will work in order to play FM?
Same here for everything.. Played FM for many'a year on Windows, 3rd day of using my new Mac and this happens! Pretty gutted to be fair.. Hopefully this needs to be sorted as soon as possible but I'm sure SI are doing everything in their power to get it going! Everyone just needs to be a little bit more patient but there's only so much browser games you can play
A potential fix for people desperately wanting to play the game is this.
Completely wipe your mac, I mean reformat it back to factory settings.
I did this earlier and could play the game. Unfortunately I restarted my computer thinking it was fixed and as soon as I tried after the restart same thing happened.
So just to clarify you must completely wipe your computer, so before doing so make sure you back up everything you need on an external hard-drive.
EDIT: For anybody not familiar with how to do that here is a link.
Hey Enforcer122, patience is a good thing, but I work with business critical software, and if my customers where to wait 12+ hours for an update (for their app to launch), heads would roll But true, patience is a good thing.
I would love a quickfix though, a little hack/workaround that would help our addictive lost souls :-D
Problem exists for me also, I only got my Mac a few days ago after using windows pc, I hope this problem get fixed soon, as its extremely frustrating
A potential fix for people desperately wanting to play the game is this.
Completely wipe your mac, I mean reformat it back to factory settings.
I did this earlier and could play the game. Unfortunately I restarted my computer thinking it was fixed and as soon as I tried after the restart same thing happened.
So just to clarify you must completely wipe your computer, so before doing so make sure you back up everything you need on an external hard-drive.
EDIT: For anybody not familiar with how to do that here is a link.
Yes my friend that's a very good point! Brain Clough famously said 'They said Rome wasn't built in a day.. I wasn't on that particular job.' perhaps we should get Brian Clough on Steam? Things would happen then haha
Im a PC user and i have the same problem. The game starts loading up normally but then just shuts down
temporary solution. reinstall your steam and ignore the update, never restart it, and you can play...
Well it is exactly the same issue everyone else seems to have. Played just fine yesterday but havent had any luck today.
hmmm seems like Steam installs the update on startup, I have no chance avoiding the update?
251 mac football manager 2012 owners annoyed cos they cant play their game
Hmm. Its not even updating now. I've yet to install the 12.2.2 update and now it doesn't do anything when it tries to update... It says its paused and just does nothing when you ask to resume the download.
Hi everyone, sorry for the problem you're encountering with running FM via Steam on the Mac, we are currently still waiting for a response for Valve in regards to this issue.
However, we are aware of a short-term fix which will allow you to play the game until the problem is properly resolved.
First uninstall Steam (keep the game files when prompted), then reinstall Steam but do not apply the latest update – it will ask you to restart following reinstall – do not allow it to restart at this point.
Install Football Manager 2012 – it will automatically be at the latest version and will allow you to load up the game and play it normally.
Do not worry about losing your Football Manager saves when uninstalling Steam, they are saved in a different location and will not be touched.
Apologies to any of you that have encountered this issue, as stated before we are attempting to contact Valve to get this resolved as soon as possible.
Last edited by Neil Brock; 20-04-2012 at 15:52.
Download Steam Mac client from Steam website. Allow Steam to auto update on start and now I have my FM back.
Steam should have a roll back option with their software so users can revert back to the previous version when these update issues occur.
I don't think I'll ever buy a game that is exclusive to steam again. I returned to this FM series after a 5 year sabbatical this year and was concerned right from the start that the game was via steam only. This issue has now convinced me that I'll NEVER buy this or any game on steam again. Hard copy or I just won't bother in future.
Just adding what mods deleted...
Hope you are listening SEGA / SI
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EDIT: no its not sorry - still broken
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I'm from Denmark, but currently living in London. This means that my copy of Football Manager 2012 is still in Denmark.
If I do this short-term solution, will I be able to install Football Manager again without CD?
It works for a while, but when or if you restart Steam it updates automatically and the game doesn't work again.
And, sincerely Neil, it doesn't sound as a real solution but more as an ECB decision: good for a moment but nothing more.
How is possible that you are still waiting for a response from Valve? After 14 hours?
Frankly guys, we appreciate the support you are trying to give through the SI community, but let's be honest : what's happening with Steam and this FM is not very serious regarding the customers....
followed Trion above, and just visited steam website, downloaded steam and reinstalled it over the steam i had.
when it loaded it gave me a message asking steam to restart which i cancelled and thanking me for participating in a beta.
happened 3 times, then it loaded football 2012 as normal.
so back for now, not sure if i reload steam if will work again.
good luck
Hello everyone,
Uninstall steam (keep the game files when prompted)
Re-Install steam
All works fine.
Did not even have to re-install my games.
Same issue here, running mac osx lion, latest patch and using the ridiculous new steam update. Why would they release such a flawed update? Surely it is their duty as the only legal way to play the game to ensure updates have been tested fully. I'm unhappy enough about having to be tied down to having to install steam to play the game, furious I now cannot even play the game because of it.
I have paid money for a game I cannot play.. brilliant. Yes, I will have to be patient and wait for steam to fix this issue, but that does nothing for the fact that I brought the game and could not play it on my day off work. If steam are going to have the tenacity to force users to install their latest patches and release such sloppy updates, then they should have at least the decency to provide a means of downgrading to a previous version that actually works.
Completely new to Mac, so here is a rookie question: How do you uninstall on a Mac?
same problems here, wont launch, dont have time to reinstall everything wanted a quick go. Sick of Steam. ON a Mac.
Ok...now it starts!!!
Re install steam
Do exactly what welshred76 says
it works!!
Tried installing Steam, just get a blank web page: http://media.steampowered.com/client...ller/steam.dmg
yep worked for me too
You shouldn't even need to re-install steam man..... So if I wait a few days, are you going to fix it so you DONT need to re-install it?
Last edited by Kriss; 20-04-2012 at 16:20.
The above-mentioned solution does not work for me. I have the same problem of "Preparing to load Football Manager" and then Football Manager 2012 v 12 . 2 .2 . 2 f 259407 quit unexpectedly.
I presume the above-mentioned solution is only a quick fix that works for only some.
I just figured I would put that out there so we don't get too excited.
can somebody tell me how to uninstall steam im a complete mac noob n the instructions have me lost
Full Steam uninstall/reinstall:
1. Go to 'Applications' in a Finder window, and drag Steam to Trash
2. Accept the prompt which asks if you want to delete the Application Support files as well (If you do not receive this prompt then navigate to 'Application Support' and put the Steam folder into Trash)
3. Empty Trash
4. Redownload and install Steam
5. Allow it to autoupdate
6. Launch FM
N.B. Do not close and reopen Steam after having gone through these steps as the client will autoupdate again. Also, do not update the client when a pop-up asks you to.
Last edited by Luke Warrington; 20-04-2012 at 16:41.
so you just basically installed it over your version of steam already? cuz i got as far as to replace it but didnt no whether too
How to provide a temporary fix explained in detail:
First off, you need to access your ~library folder. if you are unsure how to do this, here is a fantastic guide:
- You then need to find this folder: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps
- Copy the "steamapps" folder to your desktop (just drag and drop). Keep the finder window at this location open for convenience.
- Go to the steam homepage and download the client install .dmg.
- Go to your main applications folder and move the steam application to trash.
- Open the installer and drag and drop the application into your applications folder.
- Before launching steam again copy the "steamapps" folder into your open finder window in the ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/ folder.
- Launch the steam application as normal, do not worry that it says it's updating the client. Fm 12 will now work as long as steam is not quitted as restarting steam after this will automatically update to the broken client version.
I hope this helps. I am playing the game as I write this (it's windowed).
nb: by copying and pasting your "steamapps" folder you are saving the downloaded game and will not need to re-download the files. Saved games are safe as they are located in your documents folder and not in the steam application folder you are deleting. I'm not sure if the other ways mentioned ensure the the game does not need to be re-downloaded, but i wasn't going to risk it.
Last edited by EquinoxVIII; 20-04-2012 at 16:51.
I've just done this - downloaded stem from the website. Opened the archive and dragged steam to my applications folder, overwriting the old file, waited for it to update and fm runs
Yeah its worked for me to, but seems to be a temp fix as when I restarted steam to test it, it wouldn't work. So did the same process again and it works, just not going to Quit Steam until theres an update lol. I never shut the Mac down anyway, just let it fall to sleep, much better.
This isn't the first time Mac users have been left without FM, after a Steam update. Not happy.
I only want to play FM, not have to uninstall, reinstall blinkng Steam! :@
Hi guys, I have the same problem with you guys. I'm using Mac OSX 10.7.3. Yesterday I still played the game, just after this morning it's stop to launch.
So I see many people have succeed to reinstall the steam and the game is launched well.
A question here:
After you guys successfully reinstall the steam, and start the FM afterwards. So, the version of the FM is 12.2.2 or back 12.0 (the original one)
Just curious...
I have solution. as I said above, after re-installing the steam(keep the files), change to offline mode immediately
Now, you can launch the game and close the steam.
i have the same problem
Hi Guys, quick update for you - as you can see from the Valve forum page - http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2660869
JoeR is on the case with this problem at their side. He's identified and fixed the problem with FM2011, and he's looking into FM2012 now. Once both are resolved he'll roll out an update straight away.
We appreciate your patience in this matter.
This game is awesome but Steam, really, it sucks hard.
It's not possible that every time I have to suffer to play this game.
First Steam won't install on case-sensitive file systems, then it stops working if you install it on a file image (on the mac) and you have to clean the cache every time.
Then Steam updates itself and yet again this fracking game won't start.
I know that piracy is bad but Steam is proving to be even worse. I'm telling you.
Is there an estimated time scale of when to expect this issue to be fixed? I only got FM today and, im itching to play
thanks. hopefully it will be ready soon.
I must say i am very disappointed with yet another problem caused by stream. All us mac users want to do is play FM12 when we want to. Its about time the games people sorted there self out and gave us value for money. So yes how long have we got to wait for another fix??
I am playing FM2012 on my mac just now with no problems...
Thank you! I hope it's soon, the wife's out and I want to play!
Annoying problem, but the temp fix is even easier than it seems above. Go to http://store.steampowered.com/about/ then click download steam. You don't even have to uninstall first. It will download, open the dmg, install like normal and it will tell you a copy already exists -- just click "replace".
Done, took me 90 seconds and I'm playing FM now. I suppose I'll have to keep steam offline from now on until the real fix so it doesnt update itself.
Any update on this?
I believe the guys at Valve are still investigating the issue, hopefully they'll have it back up and running properly soon.
Me too, its only taken me 5 hours
I haven't been able to play for a week because my dissertation deadline was yesterday. All I wanted to do today was sit in bed all day with a hangover and play football manager
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from disc this didn't work, tried unistalling and re-installing from steam website, this did work. Kreman your save files should not be affected, apart from losing progress since the last save if it crash while in use.
god damnit I uninstalled then reinstalled normally Nother hour of reinstalling then
I've got it back now, just randomly pressed play, it took around 20 seconds but its loaded, anyone elses working now?
working for me now as well, thank god.
Back for me now
Yeah the fix should now be rolling out and you should be able to update your game. Let us know if you have any issues and again apologies for the inconvenience.
Yeah sorry I should have been clearer - just allow Steam to update and it should allow you to run FM.


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Hello, I am trying to reference one of my stores in my controller and it seems it's not loading at the time of the call. I am using
If I tie it to a button handler an click it I get 10, so this is telling me it is not loaded yet in the controller. I looked at the docs and it seem there is a launch function that executes after the application, however this code does not run, any thought on how to access my store?
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Here is the function I used:
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I'm considering a standing desk. Are there any generally accepted trade-off that might occur when working at a standing desk?
I have a standing/sitting desk at work and really like it. As the other posters have mentioned, ensuring it is both standing and sitting is important, not only from a health perspective but because you'll likely get tired of standing at some point and need to sit down.
I find that when I get my afternoon slump an hour or so after lunch, standing helps to keep me awake and stay productive.
Really the only issues I've had with the setup, which is minor, is that each time I change my position I have to make small tilt adjustment to my monitors.
Finally, with regard to the standing/sitting desk, I think the best method is where the chair is a high chair and keeping the desk high. Unless the desk is very easy to raise up or down, you will be less likely to change between positions like you ought to if you can't just sit and continue working.
As mentioned by other responders, it turns out that using a standing desk isn't necessarily a perfect solution. In this amazing article on Life Hacker about this topic, they mention the trade-offs being:
(That is actually a quote from Cornell University researchers on this topic.)
But the bottom line of this article is wise and simple: The most important thing is to move. 2-3 times an hour, for 2-3 minutes each time, make sure to move from your position, whether standing or sitting. I've started trying to do this by stretching, walking around... Anything so that I'm not sitting in the same place for hours.
One more thing, though. There is obviously the individual aspect of this. Maybe you have a specific medical issue that makes it more comfortable for you to stand than sit. In that case, spending more of your day standing than sitting might be better for you.
Good luck. :) And definitely I agree with the others - if you do decide to go for it, get the desk which is both for standing and sitting.
I work at a standing desk 8-12 hours a day but walking on a treadmill. I have no chair. I find standing still very uncomfortable but walking about 2-2.5mph painless.
Negatives: Probably wouldn't be approved in an office environment (I work at home), expensive if not a diy'er.
Positives: Posture improving, no more neck or back pain, weight finally under control despite being a binge eater and no other exercise, easy to take off for a walk around the room to think or drink.
Walking is fine for typing and mouse work however precision graphics tablet work requires me to jump on the treadmill rails and stand still.
If you do go for one, make sure it is one of the adjustable kind, so you can sit or stand. Just standing all day can be as bad as just sitting, but being able to switch between using different muscles and postures makes all the difference.
My boss uses one in order to help with back pain, and it seems to do the trick.
My wife also advises on the use of ergonomic aids to help prevent pain in the workplace, and she recommends them if you are finding problems in your back or shoulders from working in a seated position all day.
I've heard a few people recommend this, like Eben Pagan. He recommends this in his Wake Up Productive program. Most of them recommend having a desk that you can switch between sitting and standing mode, so you can do both. The important part while standing is that you have to learn to have a good posture, but this also applies for sitting at a desk.
They argue that standing at a desk is better for your body because it is a more natural position. Here is a nice article about the history and benefits of a standing desk.
I like to use a standing desk sometimes when I'm writing a speech; it helps me to focus better. The best way to find out if you'll like it is, try it out. A cheap way I did that was buying a laptop stand (this one to be specific), and then putting that on top of my normal desk. When I want to sit down, I just remove the laptop stand and I'm back to using my normal desk. Here are some other ideas: http://artofmanliness.com/2011/07/05/become-a-stand-up-guy-the-history-benefits-and-use-of-standing-desks/
No need to buy an expensive custom desk to try it out.


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I've seen people standing next to Torah readers and making hand signals during the Torah reading, presumably to prompt the reader in the trope. I think @Shalom mentioned this in Method for practicing Torah reading. What recognized systems exist for this, if any?
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Based on observations in a Sepharadic environment:
I have signed ta'amim for several readers using systems they taught me. They all seem to be based around the same signs, even if there are nuances between various methods. They are more or less imitations of the ta'am symbol, using your hand against the inside edge of the Sefer Torah case (upright, of course). Here are those which seem to me to be more-or-less universal in Sepharadic circles (if not exactly, then slightly variant):
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for or if it will help you; I hope it will. I hope the explanations aren't too abstract (they look good to me, but I know what I'm referring to in each one so I can't tell objectively).
Asher Laufer (אשר לאופר) wrote a paper "תנועות ידיים וראש בשעת קריאת התורה" on this subject. He describes (in my own very loose translation and sometimes condensation):
He notes that all these traditions are still live but are dying.
Note also that this paper indicates that it was presented with a videotape of the signs, including some of the above and some not listed above (from Egypt and Sana).
I have also seen (and used) chironomy different from all the above. I suspect any synagogue, reader, or gabay can make up whatever suits him, so long as the reader understands it.


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el sid, PRDH - so that's three of us who've had players sold for less that we thought they should have gone for by the board. I know I was raging when the board sold Dolly Menga from under my nose.
el sid, PRDH - so that's three of us who've had players sold for less that we thought they should have gone for by the board. I know I was raging when the board sold Dolly Menga from under my nose.
Think i may have found the perfect front 3, for now anyway.
John Bolano (disappointing last season, but has started well so far)
Alper Varder (signed on a free from Bayern, lucky he was Turkish too)
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DodgeeD - Is Muhammet Kesik on your game? if so, how is he doing?
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Wow now that is an update Lower Leagues Rule, unlucky in the playoffs.
Nice season siLkeape, congrats on the promotion and taking home the title.
Good luck Fletchhdt and welcome.
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So does anyone actually have any idea how the playoffs work in the Turkish Prem!? Seems to be winner of 5th-8th Playoff faces last place in Championship group for last Euro spot!?
LLR - your Turkey save in the first post isn't working. Just tried to download the whole set to see who I could play with and they all worked but Turkey.
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Right, I had a brief go at this with Venezia but abandoned that to have a few years in Hungary over in Gundo's thread. After getting fed up with that save (only the winner getting promoted and half the teams playing in all white because they haven't been given kits grated on me) I'm back to have another go. Again I'm in Italy, but this time I'm going with:
Valee d'Aoste - St Christophe
A team in the north-west of Italy. The team only made it to Serie D for the first time in 2010, and almost made it up to Serie C2 last season, but (luckily for me) Rimini knocked them out of the playoffs. What swung it was the nice kit (important after you've played with an all white team for 2 seasons, lol) and this view of their home ground:
My only concern is that Wikipedia has the kits the opposite way round to the game, but hopefully I can change that in FMRTE (allowed as it's only aesthetic, right?). Anyway, the important stuff:
Manager profile
Manager information
Club profile
Club information
Club facilities
Last edited by Britrock; 07-11-2011 at 13:12.
Good luck Britrock!
Just finished the Playoffs and i'm still non the wiser ... Another question though, how the hell does my Assistant Manager come 2nd in the Manager of the Year awards!?
Thankyou everyone for the welcome and the good luck messages.
A couple of weeks into the pre-season and its not going as well i would have liked in the transfer market. Ive managed to pick 4 players so far, but im finding it very hard to find anyone much better than i already have.
How is everyone getting round the scouting thing, were if your scout has 100% scouting knowledge of a country, he returns the next day with hardly any players at all. I want to scout Spain, as there doesnt seem to be many foreign players that want to come to me. But my scouts are all Spanish. So they are returning the next day with 3 players reports and all ways the same players.
Good luck and welcome to the challenge ArranoBeltza, Britrock, Fletchdt.
Well done on getting promotion siLKEAPE, TanO, el sid, Romanista1994 and good luck next season.
Unlucky in the play-offs LLR, hate those, that's why I avoided Spain this time.
Good first season in Ligue 2 Ohanzee, hopefully promotion to the top flight next season.
Well done on staying in the second division Amethyst21.
Mid-Season Update - Novese - 2014/15 (Season 3) - Serie C1A
After the opening day 7-0 demolition of Triestina the media began to reassess their pre-season predictions of a rock bottom finish. As for me, I began to believe we could not only stay up but maybe push for promotion. We have an odd advantage going into the second half of the season as well. Our pitch is in such bad condition that we've had 3 or 4 games postponed due to waterlogging or snow. So that means of our 17 games played, only 7 have been at home. This should give us a nice advantage.
So at the halfway mark we're in prime position for a playoff spot. It seems Albinoleffe will run away with it though
Star Men so far:
Sodinha (AMRC/ST) - though not our best AMC he performs fantastically, regularly making an impact on games. Although the arrival of Tiago Gomes has meant he doesn't start every game, it's hard to leave him out really.
Antonio Montella (ST) - continues to score regularly and looks at home in Serie C1. He does have his quiet days but they're few and far between at the moment.
Looking good iacovone - where's Natale though? Did you sell him, have I missed it?
Thanks berty1978
Good start to the season iacovone
Well hopefully my season goes better than my Pre-Season. Doesnt help though that one of my1st team CB'S & new signing has got himself injured for 4 or 5 months
ArranoBeltza welcome and good luck!
iacovone looking good so far this season, hopefully you push on.
As for me, my third season is almost underway and the board have stripped me of loads of the wage budget. It has been cut from 17.5k to 13k and with no transfer budget, I have accepted offers from Premier League teams for Welkinho and hardly any of the players will accept less than they are on so I am having difficulty renewing contracts, this may be an impossible challenge.
Think i need to get shot of this guy, get's injured all the time. Signed him in 2018
Also just got a 33 year old Nathan Delfounso on loan will be back up probably.
My first win against Fenerbahce, didn't expect that scoreline though.
Yeah, they really have hit hard on finances this year. I'm still haemorrhaging money and I'm up in the top flight. The only way it's going to change is if/hopefully when, we start getting into Europe.
Just a quick one for everyone getting low bids accepted by the chairman, i think if you remember to set a high asking price on the players transfer status screen (even when they aren't transfer listed) it should discourage other clubs from offering cheap money for your best players.
And on my game Pampilhosa have had an awesome start to life in the second division and I've got high hopes we'll stay up if we can carry it on
Last edited by TanO; 07-11-2011 at 18:17.
Let me introduce you all to the team that i look forward to taking all the way to the top
Good luck in Germany toon
Currently in February in my game, might finish by the end of the night, definitely by tomorrow though. Also getting linked with Galatasaray job.
I've just got into my first 'proper' final. The Portuguese League Cup - where I'll be playing Vit Guimares, second bottom of the league (I'm not bottom - woo!). A whopping £366K is up for grabs for the winner. In all seriousness, that would be very, very helpful with my finances as they are!
good luck PRDH
Why do injuries come in groups? Suddenly all of my creative midfielders are injured. I say 'all' I, of course, actually mean both. They're both out for the last couple of months of the season. Grr...
Looking forward to it Britrock!
Just got my first ever win against Besiktas, have now beaten each of the top 3 major Turkish teams :P
Welcome to this historic final for Lusitania Acores!
The boys from the Azores will meet Vit Guimaraes in Lisbon.
Kick off...
40 seconds - Corner to Lusitania, but it comes to nothing.
6 mins - Lusitania concede. 1-0 down.
18 mins - Henrique fires over.
44 mins - Davi scores! 1-1
Half Time
46 mins - After fighting back just before half time the boys from the Azores fall behind again. 1-2.
55 mins - Ball looks destined for the net, but it comes back off the post. A chance to equalise passes Lusitania by.
56 mins - They go up the other end and make it 1-3. It looks like the trophy has gone.
73 mins - From a corner we pull one back! 2-3...
Full time - Chance for a trophy has gone. Don't worry, I'll be back. I put the loss down to he fact I was missing my creative midfielder, goalkeeper, central defender and striker.
Last edited by PRDH; 07-11-2011 at 22:52.
Good luck toonBalmy. Wuppertal were the team I was managing in last years challenge so will be following your progress with interest.
Unlucky PRDH
My season is now finished, but you'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out how i got on
Finally done with first season, managing to avoid relegation due to a massive unbeaten run at the ending months, only getting a single draw. Managed to pick up some excellent players as well for the season ahead for now & quite happy with the youngesters I brought in in first season. Detailed report to come tomorrow but lastly...
Sercan Çalı has signed a 5 year extension with Anadolu Üsküdar till 2018!
I too have finished a season, and you will also have to wait until tomorrow for the update. Aren't we all teases...
Edit - In other happy news, I've just scouted (and then agreed a deal for) Jorge Rodriguez, the Uruguayan maestro I keep moaning about not being able to sign.
Last edited by PRDH; 08-11-2011 at 00:47.
PRDH at least you can now get him. Lets all hope he's as good as you think he'll be.
My strikers were completely inept and I lost my first six matches. I looked through the market to find a good target man and a poacher. I found two players, including this beast .
Won my first trophy; the Scottish Challenge Cup, 4-0 over Raith. (Premier league clubs don't get to join in by the way, but you always remember your first time).
Having lost in the final last year, it was a bit of a relief to lose my trophy virginity this time round. In 3rd place in Division 1 after 14 games, but 7 points behind the leaders, so this will probably be the highlight of the season.
Blimey... I just realised after finishing the season late last night, I got excited to see my transfers in the squad and pushed over to 1 July mark Can't seem to locate league graph and some other things more easily as I'd have if I hadn't moved on You'll have to do with less screenies this time guys.
Schoolboy 5ergio, schoolboy. I had to call in a huge strength of will to not do the same though...
League/Graph (Finished 3rd)
Fantastic season in the league, really wasn't expecting to finish in the top 4, nevermind in 3rd place. Didn't start off great though, but then over the rest of the season we were consistent and beat a lot of the bigger teams, hopefully we can go one better next year.
Turkish Prem Championship Group
Finishing 3rd meant i had the chance to actually win the league if things went my way. If you look at the table, if i'd won all the games and the others had ended the same way, i could have very easily won it. First game was horrid and i was expecting to finish bottom, but we did have 9 men in that game. After that though things couldn't really have gone better, 4 wins and a draw.
Finishing 3rd in the group meant i qualified for the Europa League at the 4th qualifying round, giving me an easier chance to get into the groups, still won't be easy though.
Turkish Cup (Lost in Quarter Finals)
Did ok i guess, but a red card in the game against Adanaspor, pretty much helped me get knocked out in the Quarter Finals.
Made a fair few transfers this season and actually spent some money. First to mention is Marcel Schreuder, he was brilliant for the majority of the season, scoring in game after game, but if Alper Vader wasn't there, he might not have scored as many, Alper got 21 assists over the season, a new record for us and the Turkish Prem.
The other one to mention is Ivan Vukovic who was good at the back all season.
Great season and only winning the league and cup could have probably been a better season for me. Will only need to bring in a few new player for the season. I think we could easily win the Turkish Cup next season too if things go nicely, which they probably won't.
Europa League i'm not so sure about, so just being in it for now is great and i wouldn't be down if we lost in the first round we start in.
I was named Manager of the Year again and Schreuder and Alper Vader were named the top 2 signings.
Imageshack was used this time as photobucket wasn't working properly.Code:Season League Pos. Cup Europe Achievements 12/13 Turkish Div.2 4th 3rd Round ------ Reaching Play-off Quarter Finals 13/14 Turkish Div.2 3rd 2nd Round ------ Reaching Play-off Semi Finals 14/15 Turkish Div.2 2nd 2nd Round ------ Reaching Play-off Quarter Finals 15/16 Turkish Div.2 1st 4th Round ------ PROMOTION!!!! 16/17 Turkish Div.1 5th 5th Round ------ Reaching Play-off Semi Finals 17/18 Turkish Div.1 1st 2nd Round ------ PROMOTION!!!! 18/19 Turkish Prem 11th 4th Round ------ Surviving Relegation 19/20 Turkish Prem 14th 4th Round ------ Surviving Relegation 20/21 Turkish Prem 7th Qrt Finals ------ Reaching Euro Play-off Places 21/22 Turkish Prem 3rd Qrt Finals ------ Finishing Top 3, Qualifying for Europa League
Lusitânia Açores - 2017/18 - Season Summary
Key figure - £907,185 | Summary
Back in the green! Largely thanks to prize money and sales, I'm in no way breaking even as a business yet.
Transfers | 8 In (£0) | 11 Out (£400K)
This season saw the chairman step in for the first time, deciding to sell Davy Rog without consulting me. As much as it annoyed me at the time, it was a useful chunk of cash to tide us over, and, in all fairness, he hadn't got on the pitch by the time he was sold.
The majority of the transfers in were to sit on the fringe of the squad, although Yuriy Voznyuk made a pretty decent shout for a place in my midfield, and would have played more had his injuries not been infuriatingly concurrent with Claudio's.
In another note, I'm still to splurge any actual cash in a transfer deal. They've still all been picked up at the end of contracts.
League - Predicted 16th (Bottom)
Table | Graph
Well, erm, WOW! Not sure where that season came from, but I'm not going to complain. Consistently good form, a huge number of goals scored, quite a lot conceded too (but we'll ignore that for now) and a place in Europe to show for the efforts - I'm happy with that. And also, take that media! What do you know?
Reason for the success? Well, Alex's departure after last season wasn't missed. Henrique and Davi (all the players will be below) formed a stunning partnership up top finishing as the top two scorers in the league.
Sporting and Porto were a way ahead at the top, but I managed to edge out the other traditional power house of Portuguese football, Benfica, for 3rd. My main worry at this stage is reproducing the form. European football should mean increased turnover, and I've got some decent players lined up, but I'm no way ready to take on the top two, and realistically Benfica are still a better side than me. And to put expenditure in context Porto spend £25.5m a year on salaries, Sporting £14.94m, Benfica £13.51m, going to Maritimo (the fourth largest) sees a drop of almost £10m with them spending £4.82m/year and then you drop, keep dropping, until you get to the lowest spenders in the division, me, with a bill of £1.08m/year. That difference is just enormous, and will take some serious nous to get around. Am I up for the challenge? You bet!!
Taca da Portugal - Not much progress here, I was unlucky to come up against Porto in the 4th Round and they beat me.
League Cup - Encouraging signs here, through to my first major final, unfortunately the players couldn't get the result we all wanted, losing out 3-2.
Squad | Overview
Now my squad is starting to grow I'm going to begin implementing my usual way of differentiating. First XI players will be bolded and hot prospects will be italicised - it directs those in a hurry to the most important players.
Pavao - Continues as number 2 (stop sniggering at the back) - actually got some game time this year when Cabecinha was injured, he used to ably demonstrate why he's not first choice. 'Flappy' does not even begin to cover it.
Cabecinha - Conceded a lot of goals, but then I always tend to, fortunately the boys at the other end meant it didn't really matter.
Leandrinho - Starting to attract some interest from back in brazil, I'd like to hold onto him as I think he's pretty exciting, especially as he's starting to see action for the Brazilian youth teams.
Polegar - Same as above, though he's not getting into any youth teams, I'm not as convinced by his future, and left-back is one position I might have to look at strengthening.
Lukasz Burliga - Brought in as back up on the right, that's all he was ever going to be.
Felix Krause - The German is the best centre-back at the club, and that might show why I concede goals, it's definitely my weakest section of the team. Well, along with goalkeepers.
Valery Krylov - Always waiting to replace someone in the middle of the defence in case of injury and performed pretty well when there.
Domagoj Franic - Bench warmer, he's only lasted this long as his ability to play in the middle and on the left makes choosing substitutes easier.
Etienne Manca - Gets the bold by dint of playing more games than Krylov, but realistically they're pretty even.
Eduard Borodin - Another good season for the boy from Dzerzhinsk, that's just east of Moscow. I've come to terms with the fact he's never going to be a sprinter, but then again, neither's Xabi Alonso, and Borodin plays the same role for me. His passes do the running he doesn't want to.
Yuriy Voznyuk - A very able back up to both Borodin and Claudio, unfortunate timing of injuries meant he played less than he might have wanted, but he's one to keep around. Especially with Claudio swanning off at the end of the season.
Claudio - My attacking midfielder, actually slightly down on his performances from last season, but that may just be in comparison to everyone else in the team who performed very well this year. He's refused to sign a new contract for a while now and has agreed to join Wolfsburg in the summer. Fortunately we've got the much feted Jorge Rodriguez joining to replace him (what's the betting he's rubbish now, after all this build up!)
Haris Kozak - Another good season from the Finnish right winger, he has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and grabbing goals. It's very handy! I never expected him to be part of a team which would get me to Europe, but he's firmly established himself as the man to get past out wide. He made his 100th league appearance for the club in the final game of the season.
Dias - Excellent on the left. Assists and goals - a fine season. He'll be tough to displace. Not much to add. Very, very good.
Armin Husic - Brought in as back up after the chairman sold Davy Rog. He did his job when needed towards the end of the season. No shame for him here.
Davi - A truly stunning season. Top scorer in Portugal, and obviously the team. He's going to be tough to hold onto, but he can be at this club for a long time if he wants to be. He also one the league's Forward of the year award.
Henrique - Another to impress. He's the playmaker of the team, pulling the strings from just behind Davi. A job he performs with aplomb. Even better he signed a new contract this year, so I've got the pleasure of managing him for a bit longer! Couldn't match last season's goal of the year award, only managed second this year - shoddy!
Roland Dervishi - Interesting young Albanian striker (with an excellent name) - if he can get some more pace he'll be a very good striker.
Ivan Poljak - More of a back-up right winger than striker this year, but he's another who could be a decent player.
Michael Larsen - Very exciting Danish striker. I feel he could go on to challenge the better strikers in the team.
Aims For Last Season
1/ Survive and consolidate - Oh yes!
2/ Push up into mid-table - Oh yes!
Aims For Next Season
1/ - I think next season is going to be a struggle, not in terms of relegation but in terms of matching this season's results. I'd be happy with a position roughly similar, I'm thinking Europe again. Aiming somewhere between 3rd and 6th.
Story So Far...
Previous UpdatesCode:Season League Position Achievements ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2012/13 Second Division - South 12th Avoided Relegation (just) 2013/14 Second Division - South 1st Promoted! 2014/15 Second League 14th Avoided Relegation 2015/16 Second League 2nd Promoted! 2016/17 Premier League 13th Avoided Relegation 2017/18 Premier League 3rd Qualified for Europa League
Great season Charlesbeams. Vader (Darth?) and Vukovic look like quality players. Good luck in Europe! I'll be joining you at that fourth qualifying round stage. Let's hope we both get games against Andorran or Moldovan teams!
Cheers. Great season for yourself too, wish i had 30 goals a season strikers.
As for Europe i think all the lower nations are out of it by the 4th qualifying stage. Looking at the previous season, quite a lot of decent teams still in it. I'm guessing we'll be unseeded too, specially as i have 0.00 coefficients
Have just signed Cagatay Tetik on a free, previously from Genclerbirligi, scoring 30+ in the Premier League the last 2 seasons. Got this message too.
5ergio's Anadolu Üsküdar 2012-13 Season ReportSo here is the end of 12-13 season in Turkey 2nd Division. You know I've told you that the performances were a bit shaky in the short reports I have given. We never managed to get going, especially in the attacking end. Even in matches where we seem to play as a compact team, we end up conceding a goal from a single opportunity to lose crucial matches. January window saw us bring in a few players, of 2 who are pretty special for this level:
League || Transfers || Finances || Ending Fixtures
Barış Memiş: Ex-Trabzonspor player, was regarded highly a year or two ago but never made the step up. I'm glad to have him in the Anadolu ranks and his instant contribution of 6 goals, 5 assists and 3 MoMs in just 15 starts on AML spot with an average of 7,34 justified his capture.
Ekrem Kahya: Born in Den Haag, played in Holland for 13,5 years of his 15 career. A versatile player which I have utilised as a Deep Lying Playmaker in my 4-3-3 formed with DMC - 2x MC - AM Wingers and a lone deep lying striker. His transfer was mainly due to my change of tactics where I moved my AMC spot to DMC to cover the back and retain possesion more, to concede less. 16 starts, 1 sub appearance, 1 missed penalty, no goals or assists but a healthy 6,82 rating with 3 tackles per game and 80% pass completion. Brought experience to the team that is for sure.
The focal point of the league campaign seemed like the team getting used to the new 4-3-3 after the initial 4-2-3-1 I have tried and new transfers getting on with the team in late March. I still can't believe how they manage to get those performances though. Hopefully with the new transfers for the 2013-14 season, we can push for a playoff spot.
The Cup:
Horrid. Made a rotation as I was playing a non-league side but their striker, as I scouted after the match, was regarded as a good First Division one. Learnt that the hard way. Lost 2-0 to Gölcükspor in 1st Round.
Now, let's have a look at my team, unfortunately with no stats on their screen shots
No one to single out here. They all managed some decent performances coupled with some horrible ones. Kerem Inan is the popular name here but my other GKs seem to have bigger potentials than him so he'll most likely be a back up in the upcoming season.
Kadir Demir: The first player to enter favored personnel of the club. FPotY and a solid defender but one that will be pushed aside in the upcoming matches when you see my prospective sons. 24(1) starts, 1 assists, 2 MoMs, 2,79 tackles per game with 6,95 rating.
Mertgül Çapoğlu: He was known to me from the earlier games as a decent left back for lower leagues so I agreed with my scout when he said Mertgül is a good player for this division. Sadly missed whole second half due a torn calf muscle. 13 starts, 3,77 tackles per game with a 6,73 rating.
Satılmış Çölbekler: Signed because my scouts told he is good for this level and I have to say, he's pretty well equipped for a midfielder. I'd have utilised him as a box-to-box but his lack of dribbling and flair discouraged me. Played in front of Ekrem, partnering team captain Muhammet in MC. Injured for a total of 2-2,5 months, halting his progress. With his age 24 now, I guess he won't develop as much as I'd like him. I might as well look for a regen midfielder for U18. 20(3) starts 2 tackles per game, 81% pass completion with 6,71 rating.
Muhammet Çağlar: Team captain, versatile and an all-arounder midfielder. Had a bit of a problem with him when he ran riot asking for a new contract but we manage to get on well after that. 31 starts, 5 assists 2,3 tackles per game with 83% pass completion and 6,87 rating.
Zafer Şensoy: Seemed like a centre player before I have a look at his attributes. Played him as my AMR mostly but he provided me the ability to switch positions effectively when needed. He'll be a back up from now on though. 28 starts, 3 goals and 5 assists with 1 MoM. 2,6 tackles per game with 1,4 dribbles as well. 79% pass completion, 6,85 rating.
Mehmet Sayan: Decent back up winger given the quality of Zafer & Barış. Played his role in the first hal of the season mostly. 8(9) starts with 1 goal and assist each. 74% pass completion, 2,4 dribbles per game with 6,73 rating.
Tural Narimanov: Another decent back up for the wings and an Azerbaijan national as well! Worst thing about him is not being proficient in playing AML at all so he featured less. I will get a flat 4-4-2 ready for this season as well so he may be of use, maybe. 4(6) starts, 2,2 tackles 72% pass completion, 1,2 dribbles with 6,61 rating.
Nothing to mention as every one of them managed to get around 4-7 goals, decent ones to be honest. I am hoping you'll see a good name regularly here starting from this season though.
The Youth:
The initial youth squad and the april intake was awful. None of the youngesters were regarded higher than 1,5 stars in potential and the highest current ability was 4 silver stars. Considering the fact that I have signed a couple of youngesters from Amateur contracts in the season, it seems like I will do the same this time. And now, you get to meet my highly regarded sons. They will be nurtured into first team football this upcoming season seeing how they have developed already!
Fatih Kaya: Signed in Jan window, he's a natural AMC which I have no use for my tactic at the moment but his skill to play AML encourages me to retain him as a winger first. When I have the quality to go 4-2-3-1 with a AM L-C-R setup he'll be a star it seems.
Nevzat Yasa: Primarily a striker but adept at midfield roles as well. Called up to Germany U19 and played 45 min in his single call up which surprised me to be honest. His skills are valuable though as he is not only a goal scorer but a good attacking player by the looks of it.
Selim Yavaş: A good centre back with some good attacking attributes as well. Featured in 2(1) games near the end of season averaging 7,2!
Tuncay Sertel: Lovely training performance by the young lad an he got a reward playing his first competitive games for the team. Most likely he'll be my first choice centre back from now on, that is if I manage to keep him around. Started 9(1) games with barely 1 tackle per game but a good 7,09 rating.
Burak Yıldız: The lad has some excellent attributes, though his lack of passing and creativity worries me to utilise him as a winger. Will let him develop more with U18s as I have good wingers and decent strikers already to start. Featured once as a sub only.
Lastly, as I have made a mistake to move further before reporting, I have my first 2 transfers of the next season already with the team.
Firstly, the highly anticipated Aykut Güler arrives after his contract expires with Gaziosmanpaşaspor. Regarded as having a Premier Division potential, I hope he will sort out the problems in the final third of the pitch.
Second transfer of the season was a surprise to me as well. Anıl Koç, who was a trialist in Adana DS it seems, never popped up in my radar till this years transfer window. Born in Belgium, he couldn't manage to break into Anderlecht or Standard squads and was released. When I spotted him, there were a few clubs, including First and Premier Division ones, interested in him. Had to pay a lot to capture the lad but he is way too good to pass on.
Avoiding relegation with an excellent run in the last 8 games gave hope to be honest. With Barış, Anıl and Aykut in the front lines, I hope I'll create more chances this season and push higher!
Code:Season League Pos. Cup Europe Achievements 12-13 2nd Div 10th 1st Round --- Survived!
Last edited by 5ergio; 08-11-2011 at 12:23.
Have been trying to get in former players as staff too, mainly ones i recognise. So far i have Gary Cahill and Leighton Baines as Youth Coaches, Mamadou Niang as a First Team Coach and Ricardo Quaresma as a Scout. Edson Bastos is my Ass.Man, but i've only ever heard his name before.
Good job staying up in your first season 5ergio
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 08-11-2011 at 12:16.
Great work on getting into Europe Charlesbeams and PDRH!! Hopefully, that will give your finances a boost and help you attract some better players.
5ergio - mid-table respectability makes for a good first season I think. A consistent scorer is vital for a promotion push at this level I find - Yaser Hacimustafoglu available in your game?
I'm halfway through my debut season in the First Division so I'll have a mid-season update posted by the end of the day.
Also the Europa League draw has been made and i've been given Lech Poznan, lucky for me they were the lowest seeded team, couldn't have got a better draw really, but still not going to be easy.
Anyway, here is Muhammet Kesik from my game. Released by Bayern at the end of last season and snapped up by Bursaspor on a free. My scouts give him 5 stars for both current and potential ability. Looks like he could be a major star for Turkey.
Aventure française de Berty Bassett
La Vitréenne FC - 2015/16 (French National)
League - Graph
Well, finally won promotion and it was a very scrappy one too. We were pretty consistant all season but dropped too many points against weaker teams for my liking. We went into the last two games in 2nd psition but only a few points seperating the top 5 or 6 teams, so we had a chance of winning the league but also of missing out altogether. Our penultimate game was away at 4th placed Clermont Foot, and as usual we bottled it losing 2-0, which put us in 4th place and behind Clermont going into the last match. It was simple, we had to win and hope that at least one of the 2nd or 3rd place teams lost (Calais had won the league by this point). In a sort of revenge the team to lose was Clermont Foot, meaning our 3-1 win took us into 3rd on the last day. Phew.
French Cup - 8th round
Got through the 6th and 7th round with no problems, playing against lower league teams. As usual though I came up against a Ligue 2 side and struggled, Niort were bottom of the league and I thought I should have a chance but always struggle against better teams.
Plenty of players out and with our wage budget of just over £8k it was a case of bringing in more youngsters on low wages.
Squad - Team report - Best XI - Best XI overall
GK - Alexandre Letellier - Fairly consistant season, not outstanding, will probably look towards another keeper for Ligue 2.
DL - Karl Monthé - Good, solid season from the left back who also plays as well in the centre.
DC - Yoann Bourillon - Has been excellent for the club over the last few seasons but I think he'll be pushed out next season by the younger generation.
DC - Ugo Gostisbehere - Signed on a free at the start of the season, solid in defence and grabbed himself some vital headed goals.
DR - Johann Rouault - Not an outstanding season and also hasn't really improved as a player. Hopefully playing at a higher level will improve him.
DMC - Kouadio Kouadio - Looks like an excellent player, and had a good season.
DMC - Jordan Ferri - Was a key member of the team, and one of the highest earners so I expected him to do well.
AML - Yacouba Diallo - Excellent season, plays best as a striker but due to Angan playing there Diallo played on the left and made the position his own. Named in the National team of the season.
AMC - Franck Bikoya - Good season but not sure if he'll get many chances next season in Ligue 2.
AMR - Riccardo Iacopino - Good signing, very inconsistant though, can play in plenty of positions but best on the right.
SC - Jean-Jacques Angan - Outstanding second half of the season where he got most of his goals. Got the clean sweep of awards, the National best player, Golden scarves player of the season, National star player of the season and the top goalscorer.
Finances - The finances looking much better now we're in Ligue 2, we get around £4.5m in TV money spread over the season. Transfer/Wage budget, turning pro means we're going to have to spend a lot more on wages, surprised by having a decent transfer budget, probably won't use it though.
In other news:
Turned professional, and have to spend another £665k on a stadium expansion, this expansion takes our capacity just over 10,000 so I guess that's what the rules are. I guess planning the new stadium after my first season was needed after all.
Code:Season | League | Position | Cup | Achievements | ------------------------------------------------------------- 2012/13 | National | 10th | 7th Round | Overachievers | 2013/14 | National | 6th | 6th Round | | 2014/15 | National | 6th | 7th Round | | 2015/16 | National | 3rd | 8th Round | Promotion |
DodgeeD - He is absolutely ridiculous in my game, scored 47 goals in the league last season. 234 goals in 245 league games overall
1st Leg in Europe against Lech was simple as Tetik ran riot getting a hat-trick on his debut, his 3rd goal (not sure why the fans aren't cheering/jumping)was pretty special. 2nd leg i just need to try and score and i should be fine.
2nd Leg i decided to play a weakened team as i have a league game a few days later, conceded early, but got another 4 goals to send us into the group stages.
Pretty pleased with the group draw, it could have been much worse.
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 08-11-2011 at 14:05.
Keçiörengücü January 2015 Update
Turkish 1st Division
At the start of the season, I was worried. A 1-1 home draw with fellow newly-promoted Hacettepe (who are on the same challenge schedule as me having been unplayable at the start of the game!) was not the best of starts, especially as they were being predicted to finish last. There then followed high-scoring defeats, 6-4 away to Tavşnali Linyitspor and 5-3 to Manisaposr coming either side of a 2-0 loss to Boluspor. I made a few defensive tweaks but more importantly, I ditched the 'old guard' and played two youngsters in central defence - Gagoshidze and Ali Topal, who had both signed in the summer. That did the trick as we ran out 7-1 winners in our next game against BUGSAS. Since then, we have lost just twice more - a disapponting home defeat to Elazigspor and a narrow away defeat at Samsunspor - and had one draw. 10 further wins, including the last six in a row, have catağulted us up to second at just past the halfway stage! Can we stay there? I don't think so but we look more than safe from relegation and I have adjusted the season expectations to a mid-table finish accordingly.
Current Standings
As you can see from the table, we have once again been free-scoring. In addition to the above goalfests, we have beaten Altay 6-4, Sakaryaspor 5-2 and Hacettepe 6-2 (all away!) Also worth mentioning is a 2-1 win over our parent club, Ankaragücü. The goals have come due to top notch performances (yet again) from Berkin Arslan, who has had not trpuble making the step up a division, and Yaser Hacimustafoğlu. Sinan Meriç has continued his development nicely with plenty of assists from his deep-lying role. Pleasant surprises have been Osman Özvardar, who is now established as Hacimustafaoglu's strike partner and Görkem Celik who has had a lengthy run in the side due to Ugur Yanıkdemir picking up a long-term injury. His performances on the right wing have defied his stats!
Obviously, the defence is still a concern as we have the worst defensive record in the division. That should be mitigated by our opening fixtures though, which saw us concede 14 goals in the first 4 games. Since then, we haven't conceded more than 2 in a game. We are also yet to keep a clean sheet however! Bringing Malkhaz Gagoshidze into defence has helped as has the form of Miroslav Krsko, a player who really covers the entire left-flank (and in my opinion, deserves a higher average rating), and Aleksandar Tanasin, who does the same on the right.
And a boost to the backline will (hopefully) now come in the shape of Sercan Sen, who has just arrived on a free transfer. I spotted him at the Turkey Trial Day in August but it took three attempts to get him to agree to a deal, by which time the registration deadline had passed. He's rated as a good Premier League keeper with the potential to be a leading star. I hope I can hang on to him as we attempt to climb up thefootballing ladder!
Turkish Cup
Not much to mention here. A bye for the 1st round, easy win over a 2nd Division side in the next round before battling to a narrow defeat at Boluspor in the 3rd Round - played with ten men from the 25th minute on, equalised twice before losing in the last minute of extra time! At least we can concentrate on the league now.
berty1978 - Congrats on promotion! It looks like it was tight but at least you're up - good luck in Ligue 2.
Charlesbeams - What a beast! I wonder if we'll see the same from him 8 years down the line in my game.
Awesome season Charlesbeams congrats on getting into the Championship Playoffs!
PRDH .. Wow, to go from Relegation candidates to Europa League in one season is awesome work. Lets hope you can make Europe again now you've given your fans a taste of it.
Great finances for Turkey 5ergio and well done on getting the tricky survival first season out of the way .. Now onwards and upwards.
Nice work on the promotion Berty and so close to the title as well.
I'll have my first season in the Premier update up tonight (first chance i've got after a busy few days of not getting on FM at all).
Just got our first clean sheet of the season... in game 20! We beat Boluspor 6-0 away leading to their manager being sacked. I was linked with the job immediately after the game as well. Would have turned it down even if this was a regular career game.
End Of Season Update 2012/2013
League Table
Player Stats
Cup Fixtures
Great season finishing as champions but could of finished anywhere if any of the many draws went the wrong way. Great start climbing to the top of the table but poor form in the middle threated our chances but 2nd half after the winter break we gained back the ground and took the lead and won the championship with two games to spare with great form of 12 wins and 3 draws out of the 15 games.
The cup came along fast before we could sign anyone and went out in the first round we entered(5th round) quite easily.
Released nearly all of the squad. Missed out on Orlando this time but were happy with the transfers in the end.
Squad covered us well for this season but will need to add if we can to stay up next season.
Finances not looking too healthy need an oil baron to take over us
Key Players
Pascal Igwe - Offered by his agent to me. Normally play him AML and offers a big goal threat running in behind looking for through balls and flick-ons.
Frank Frimpong - Was hard which players to play with 3 foriegn players rule but in a short time Frimpong made sure he was always first choice looked solid and never made a mistake.
Vasily Karmazinenko - Our Top scorer didn't do as well as Orlando did on my last save but did well enough.
Code:Career Overview Season Team League League Finish Achievements ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2012/13 FC Chita Russian First Division 1st League Champions
Last edited by Welsh Wizard; 08-11-2011 at 15:26.
Congrats on promotion berty and Welsh Wizard.
Last edited by PRDH; 09-11-2011 at 11:35.
A second clean sheet in a row came as part of a 3-0 top of the table clash win over Manisaspor. We are now first! 13 games to go but still...
After I get the update done, I can start my comments Looks like this'll be a looong one.
brettney1980, Those goals by Ozparilti are spectecular!
vikeologist, Lovely finish to the 2nd division mate. Now that's called storming through for sure!
G-Wiz, Good luck in Russia with Diname Stavropol.
Almondo, Gutted to lose out on promotion. That's a remarkable progress though.
Andy Sava, Good luck with RB Leipzig!
berty1978, Solid season finishing 6th and you deserved your promotion this time.
StellaF1, Good play off win to reserve a place in Serie B!
DodgeeD, Wow! Promoted in second season. I wish I was that skilled I know Yaser and he's a capable striker but there's no way he's dropping down a league to join me from Kasımpaşaspor. I have the 3rd worst reputation in the league as well. Keep the progress up and you shall challenge the big boys next season!
Romanista1994, Yay! The best way to get a promotion is winning the league for sure! Keep it up!
Charlesbeams, Good season coming 7th but gutted you couldn't work out the play off system. Congrats on MotY award. Great to see you progress more the next season for a European place. And I have to say I am pleased we have our first European teams.
duccio, Bah. Bad luck to lose out in semis of play offs. You'll surely get a promotion next season!
el sid, Straight champions from expected dead last?!? Excellent!
Ohanzee, Ahh. Close but no cigar mate. Next season shall see you promoted I hope.
Amethyst21, Good survival skills in first season. I can feel you
TanO, Nice win there mate. Crucial championship should carry the morale to next season.
Flashman's School Days, Surviving and building a root for the future is good for the first season. Keep it up!
LLR, Nice to get yourself a spot in playoffs. Promotion looking likely next year I presume?
silkEAPE, Congrats on promotion mate. Good luck in Serie C1.
Fletchdt, Good luck in Spain mate.
Britrock, Good luck in Italy!
ArranoBeltza, Welcome and good luck to you too.
toonbalmy, Good luck and have fun in Germany.
PRDH, One more European team for the challenge. Keep walking guys and you will eventually grab the league as well in no time!
Welsh Wizard, Just as expecte, the wizard grabs the championship, getting promoted! Congrats mate.
Now that was long! On with some transfer activity for Anadolu Üsküdar.
Thanks 5ergio
Half way point in the season and things are going great!
The front 3 of Alibec, Millet and Cinquegrana have been superb
Thanks 5ergio, it was gutting but hopefully this season is a lot better.
PRDH and Charlesbeam great work getting into the Europa League.
RB Leipzig - German Second Division - 2013/14
Right, this was a great season again. We won the league again! However, it was not as easy as last year or as easy as past versions. Took me to the final fixture but it was in my own hands so I won to take the title. Couple of dodgy moments but a 14 game unbeaten streak really helped. Strikers struggled bar new signing Cauiby. However, my CBs made up for this by both being good scoring options from set pieces. My Lb, Nouri, was on top form notching 17 assists and 1 goal in his 37 matches. Priceless player.
League Table - Fixtures 1 - Fixtures 2
In the cup we did well, reaching the Quarter Finals. Unlucky to lose to Bundesliga side Gladbach as we penned them back for large periods of the game. Still took one Bundesliga scalp as I beat Wolfsburg 4-2. Good for the finances, will be looking for at least that next season.
Gladbach 2 - 1 RB Leipzig
Team - Transfers - My Profile - Team Information
Last edited by minisav; 08-11-2011 at 22:18.
What the hell???
Despite lying in fourteenth place in February, I've already been sacked.
I think the board were kind of pissed that some of my new signings did not pan out, and some of my team's performances were ****-poor. Still, I am kind of frustrated so I just exited, screw a screenshot. Re-loaded the June 18 save and I decided to give in to rampant corporatism and so I have taken up a job as manager of RB Leipzig.
While the team obviously has a higher rep and more money than many alternatives, and more good news is that they have a great stadium, so I can probably focus time and money worrying more about the squad and training facilities, at least for a while. Plus I like the idea of bringing first division football to Leipzig for the first time in a long time.
Some of the players I got for Alzenau will be definite targets, while others were very obvious mistakes...
Last edited by ArranoBeltza; 08-11-2011 at 21:15.
Good luck with Leipzig, not Sazlburg!
minisav - your league screenshot is showing the fixtures list.
Cheers 5ergio and Almondo
SV Waldhof Mannheim - German Third Division - Season 2012/13
End of Season Review
So the end of our first season in charge saw Mannheim finish in 12th position. My thoughts? overall i am slightly disappointed but considering the young squad i had with a degree of a lack of strength in depth, i am relatively happy. three wins in the final three matches saw us rise from 15th to a more respectable 12th which is ok in the end
Squad 1
Squad 2
I am not doing my usual full update as some players don't really deserve the acknowledgement and so i have handpicked the few better players in our season.
30. Niclas Heimann - The young German had a good season between the sticks and was potentially our most consistent performer. Niclas could be the clubs keeper for a few years yet.
6. Wouter Gudde - Wouter was identified as a star of the team but he didn't quite do it for me. did well but i was hoping for more, he found himself on the bench in the Spring.
4. Fabian Heinrich - Despite his tender age, Fabian was statistically our best defender. has plenty of room to grow further.
16. Mitja Schafer - the experienced German played both CB and LB during the season and earned himself a new one year contract. adds real experience to the squad.
14. Mads Laudrup - Mads had a tough time when he joined the club but he grew as the season went on and was a key performer towards then end of the season. hopefully there is more to come next season.
17. Henning Grieneisen - Henning was a decent performer for us and is recognised for his goals and assists. quality not great though and he had many a poor performance.
9. Gaetano Manno - Gaetano is here for his early season form where his goals helped us to a good start in the league. unfortunately he got injured and never recaptured his form
12. Nicolao Dumitru - the january signing took a while to settle and score but once he did he formed a good partnership with Enukidze. still developing i have high hopes next season.
99. Gurami Enukidze - GUrami really struggled early doors and wanted to leave the club and he was close to going. however he returned after the winter break in great form and finished top goalscorer. he also managed to score 4 goals in two seperate games in the spring. hopefully he and Dumitru can lead the line next season.
As previously mentioned finances are dire and we are over £1 miullion in the red. i feel that this is only going to get worse while we are in the Third division although i will try to improve the situation next season.
So that's it, season one over. hopefully we see an improvement next season.
2013/2014 review
We were tipped with an outside chance of promotion, I just hoped for mid table obscurity
League table
Position graph
We achieved excactly what I thought and hoped we would, we hit a rough patch at the end of the season so we ended a bit too low for my liking, but I'm satisfied how the season has gone in a whole.
Transfers - All players are good for this level, but they didn't always played like it.
squad 1 | squad 2 - A capable squad at this level, but if I want promotion we need some reinforcements.
Top players:
5: Remo Mally - A fine player who performed consistently over the course of the season.
4: Timo Hildebrand - A great keeper for this level, even played for Germany at some time in his career.
3: Matthias Buszkowiak - He developed very well this season and got himself a first-team spot.
2: Sören Gonther - An awesome defender a real leader of the defensive line.
1: Bastian Schulz - A great midfielder and certainly one of my best players in the seasons to come.
Great season Charlesbeams, finished ahead of Galatasaray, impressive. Good luck in the Euro cup group stage.
Well done on an outstanding season PRDH, also good luck in Europe.
Good first season 5ergio, survival is the main thing then build from there.
Congrats Welsh Wizard, winning the league in your first season is a great effort.
Unlucky ArranBeltza, hope you have better luck in Leipzig.
Good solid first seasons rlipscombe and neushoorn70
And thanks everyone, have already finished my next season, survived but still disappointed, I'm never happy though. This guy has unbelievable tekkers (soccer AM ), signed after being offered by his agent and taken on trial, almost single handedly kept us up in the last few games. Review to come when it's ready.
For the sake of full disclosure, I used FMRTE. All I did, though, was edit RB Leipzig's away uniforms to have yellow shorts and socks, as RB Salzburg and NYRB have worn in recent games because I like the way it looks more. This will be the first and only time I'll use it in my save, hope that's acceptable!
Last edited by ArranoBeltza; 08-11-2011 at 21:40.
...And apparently I have the next Stefan Kießling in my squad. Debuted as a sub and scored in my 4-1 win against Jena to open the season. Especially since I love having big target men, I will do everything in my power to keep this kid, as he's highly rated by my scouts and is already attracting attention from bigger clubs.
Fixed the screeny mistake, cheers Charlesbeams for pointing it out.
so my board have struck to try and halt the financial problems... we have gone Semi-pro...
Dardanelspor A.S - Season 2016/17
What a first Season in the Turkish Premier, we never dropped any lower than 11th and for most of the season hovered around 4th-6th. Last game of the season saw us lose to Galatasaray and finish 5th when we were so close to a Championship Playoff place in our first season (back) in the top tier. The Inside Forwards formation was the name of the day again and it seemed to take the Premier by storm thanks inpart to the performances of Anchor Man new signing Timo Nagel who was released by Bayer Leverkusen. We sometimes switched to just the one up front and dropped a man back into a CM/AM spot.
Playoffs 1 + 2;
We entered the European Playoffs and after winning the first round we we're pretty much hammered back down to ground by Bursuspor (we did have some key players missing though in our defence).
Free transfers were once again the key to any success this season and we added 4 guys who became first team regulars including 2 more Germans, bringing our German born players to 7 (2 have become full Turkish Citizens and played for Turkey at Youth Level so far).
The Squad; - Team Report
GK, Arsen Petrosyan
RB, Muhammed Yetgin
CB, Samet Fettahoglu
CB, Urcument Ozsulen
LB, Willem Appiah-Ofori
ANC, Timo Nagel
CM, Felix Gumedze
IFR, Osman Ozparilti
IFL, Martin Marx
CF, Murat Yilmaz
CF, Eduards Visnakovs
Code:Season Division Pos Turkish Cup Notes ------------------------------------------------------------- 2012/13 Second 2nd Third Round Promotion! 2013/14 First Div. 10th Second Round Mid-Table - Check! 2014/15 First Div. 8th Third Rd. Just below Playoffs 2015/16 First Div. Top! Second Round Champions!!! 2016/17 Premier 5th Fourth Rd. Made it into Europe!! Somehow.
Well done on making European football Brettney and your finishing position
Congratulations on Europe Brettney.
Bad news, Davi (see update above) is refusing to sign a new contract - it runs out at the end of the year. I'm not sure I'm in a position to let valuable players leave for nothing. I've received a bid of £1.9m for him, I think I'm going to have to accept it. A pity, but it's a huge chunk of money for me at this stage.
Last edited by PRDH; 09-11-2011 at 00:31.
Thanks PRDH, berty1978 and 5ergio. Hopefully I can put up a decent fight to stay in the Premier division.
Good season rlipscombe, unlucky with your finances. I see we have quite a few players in common too, Heimann, Gudde, Laudrup and Enukidze Heimann has been a beast for me in the 2nd division, so hold on to him! Laudrup started very slowly for me too, but has now become very good
Des Tiny's AD ParlaThe Transfers
Pre-Season 2014/15
Second Division B3
September 1st Update
In Brief
In: 1 Players (Free)
Out: 10 Players (€55k)
Loans: None
Wages Total: €11,591 (p/w)
Wage Budget: €12,237 (p/w)
Remaining Transfers: €0
New Signings
First Team
Nicolas Morel (FRA-Free) [DM] - He is the new cover for Duillou, he is cheap enough and hence could end up as the replacement in the position if finances really become a problem. He came from Paris FC at the end of his contract.
Transfers Out
Just going to point out those that were major ones
First Team
Alessio Innocenti (€1.5k): Off to Lanzarote for a small fee, they were relegated last season.
Jose Sa (€2k): Also going to the newly relegated Lanzarote.
Ricardo Alves (€3k): Off to Caudal (relegated), he left cheaply as I couldn't afford to keep his wages on board.
Rodolfo Simoes (€20k): I had to get rid of him or Malheiro, so he left for a fair price and took his large wages with him, we had just beaten the team he chose 7:0 in a friendly.
Jose Luis Ramos (€28k): This one came as a surprise, but Avila offered a price that matched his release fee, so off he went, also has 30% of next sale clause.
The Friendlies
23.07 vs At.Leones CF 7:0
Dumast (16,52), Herlein (25), Vignali (34,37), Torres (84), Vilches (90)
30.07 vs Rayo "B" 6:0
Herlein (32,53), Vignali (47,51,59), Alvaro (72)
05.08 vs Avila 5:0
Vignali (25,40,47,49), Gomes (29)
11.08 vs Mostoles 4:1
OG (18), Yetgin (42), Aranda (81), Grosjean (90)
16.08 vs Segoviana 7:0
OG (4), Vignali (14), Herlein (39,48,55,83), Gomes (65)
23.08 vs El Alamo 3:0
Vignali (3), Dumast (31), Gomes (48)
Well I saw some great touches from the players I want to be leading the team, Grosjean was involved, Herlein scored, Vignali scored, Gomes did his job. Aranda & Malheiro were excellent down the sides and Dumast & Marin were awesome as well. I am hoping that we can build on this as I attempt to cut the wage budget, the youth players also looked good doing what they could so far.
Second Division B3
31.08 vs Albacete 5:0
Vignali (11,59), Grosjean (34), Dumast (76), Herlein (81)
Great first up game, especially because we were seen as the ultimate underdogs going into it every one thought we were going to be spanked. A good first half was shown up by an absolutely stunning second half and we ended in a brilliant position winning 5:0 and going top of the table with all four of our main goalscorers getting on the board.
The Team
So without Further ado, here is the team I expect to lead Parla in the 2nd Division B this season:
GK: Moldovan
DR: Aranda, DC: Marin & Dumast, DL: Malheiro
DM: Guillou
MR: Grosjean, MC: Gomes, ML: Kuru
ST: Herlein & Vignali
Just two changes to the line-up from last season, Malheiro at left back to cut the wastage and Guillou in the defensive mid slot to try and stop the waste of goals coming through the channel. I have managed to re-sign several players to this point for slightly less wages, but only a single extended season, it seems the same problem may come along in the next season. Looking to sell Grosjean as he won't even discuss a new contract, Herlein wants 1500+ p/w so he may go too. Currently around til 2016: Vignali, Gomes, Malheiro, Kuru & Marin.
We have 1598 tickets sold this season, it is just 9 more than last season so I am looking to pass 1600 next year.
And Portugal defeated Belgium to become World Champions...1:0
Well I have the title sewn up with 4 games to go. I'll have a full update up at some point later today.
Add me to the list of folks who have signed Laudrup, We've drawn Irtysh Pavlodar (Kazakhstan) the the Europa 2nd Qualifying rd.
Europa 4th Qualifying Rd draw made - I'll be facing Panathinaikos. Could have been much, much worse with teams like Man City and Juventus in the draw. Hopefully, with a good performance, I might stand a chance.
Welcome to Athens, Lusitania Acores fans are here, they've made a 2,724 mile trip. News sources are reporting this has a historic day not just for the club, but for the entire island group with this the first match any team from this western outpost of Europe playing in any European competition.
Let's hope the players can send the loyal fans home with a smile on their face.
Kick off
4 mins - Lusitania corner. It's swung in and Krause rises highest to nod it home! 0-1!!! But, it's been disallowed. Apparently there was a push in there.
12 mins - Lovely build up play from the Azores club sees a chance for Henrique but the captain blazes over - he really should have tested the keeper there.
22 mins - Henrique turns provider here as his perfectly weighted pass finds Kozak behind the Panathinaikos defence. He steadies himself and fires across the keeper. It's in! 0-1
25 mins - The lead doesn't last long as Panathinaikos equalise from a free-kick. 1-1
35 mins - The man, the legend, Jorge Rodriguez, threads a beautiful pass through the Greek defence, but once again the chance is spurned.
42 mins - Panathinaikos begin to make the Portuguese team regret their wastefulness as they curl a fantastic effort past Cabecinha. 2-1
45 mins - Fantastic cross field ball from Polegar finds Kozak in the area but, bafflingly, rather than take the ball down and strike it, he weakly heads it goalwards where the Greek team's keeper can easily gather.
Half time - We're giving as good as we get, but our inexperience is showing at this level though are profligate finishing.
54 mins - Borodin fires in a shot from the edge of the area, their 'keeper saves but can only knock it into the path of Dias. His touch is too heavy and it rolls out of play.
55 mins - Dias makes up for his mistake just after though. He picks up Rodriguez's pinpoint pass, slides the ball across the box where new signing Venizelos Chrysanthou is waiting. He makes no mistake and knocks it into the back of the net. 2-2
59 mins - Borodin with a free kick from the edge of the area. It's on target, but tipped round the post. Corner to Lusitania Acores, but it comes to nothing.
62 mins - Panathinaikos shows how to do it properly as they take the lead with another header from a set piece. 3-2
87 mins - Panathinakios beginning to take control here, but against the run of play Kozak wriggles free and fires off a shot, but it goes well wide.
Full time - Well, it's a defeat, but a narrow one, and with two away goals we've got a chance when we bring them back to Angra do Heroísmo in the Azores.
Last edited by PRDH; 09-11-2011 at 14:53.
Hey all, starting a german save for the challenge
Will do my first post when the holidaying has finished, had a good read through the posts there and some of you guys are doing great! Well done all, really does look fun
Thanks for comments regarding my updates, will try to make them look better and easier for you to read. You all have such amazing updates and progress.
Exciting game PRDH, good luck in the home fixture!
Welcome and good luck Spamjabber.
Welcome aboard Spamjabber! It certainly is fun! If you can get past some of the more obvious annoyances - no money, no coaches, board who want to sell all your good players!
In other news, can anyone else here that racket? Sounds like marching. Was that someone giving out orders? It's almost military. Oh right, that must be it, it's the changing of the guard! Bam!
Sorry, that was a terrible set up for a very weak punchline! You'll have to forgive me, it's my first win against any of the big three.
Edit - Won't go into as much detail, but it's the return leg of my Panathinaikos tie. At half time I'm 1-0 up (ahead on away goals) I really should have it tied up, I've missed a couple of very decent chances. As it stands it's on a knife edge. Very exciting second half on it's way!
Full time - It remained 1-0 despite another few clear chances for us. I was petrified as it hit the last 10 minutes that we'd pay for missing those chances. But we held on for a deserved win in the match and a win in the tie overall thanks to the away goals rule.
Edit - Group stage drawn. I'm looking ahead to games against sc Heerenveen, Girondins Bordeaux and Dynamo Kyiv, by no means the easiest group, but again, pleased to have avoided Man City, Tottenham, Juventus et al.
Last edited by PRDH; 09-11-2011 at 16:24.
Erm, what..? No! My game just randomly quit. I don't know when I last saved! If I've lost both games against Panathinaikos and Sporting I'll be absolutely gutted!
Edit - It's pushed me back to 10 days before the beginning of the season. Lost my two league wins (including the one over Sporting) and the two Panathinaikos games, I must have been about two days from the monthly save. Furious, furious and gutted. Will have to catch those games up later. Don't feel like playing them again now. Probably a good thing as I should be working!
Last edited by PRDH; 09-11-2011 at 16:30.
will defos have a end of season update the night


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See the discussion on the name elohim. The commentaries on Genesis discuss what was going on there; the simplest explanation is "the sons of the authorities", or "the sons of the powerful" or "the sons of judges" went and took [advantage of] any woman they wanted.
According to this translation (based on Rashi's commentary) in the first instance it means the children of the powerful (sons of the nobles). http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8171/showrashi/true
According to the same site, the Iyov (Job) references are to angels.
"Beni-Elohim" has no clear meaning. Depending on what theology you have, or what theology you believe ancient Israel to have, it can mean very different things. The literal meaning though is not "sons of G-d", but rather "Children of Powers"


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17 Apr 2012 11:34 AM #1
Architect project broken after upgrade
I opened a 283 designer beta project in architect and it prompted for upgrade. It seemingly went well, i could see my viewport and all my components (stores/controllers/models/views). When i published i realized it seems to have forgotten anything about the application. The name/settings/launch function were no longer specified, and didn't show up in app.js. Those are easy to fix, but the real problem is that it doesn't include any of my components either. For example if in architect, i add one store, the deployed app.js will include that one new store, but not my other 5 existing ones. I tried it again, and same problem, but this time i did notice a brief error " A custom config cannot override a reserved member". Do i have to create a new project from scratch now or can this be fixed?
17 Apr 2012 11:46 AM #2
Ok, duh, the models/stores/views are property lists of the application that I can manually update. Still having an issue with the controllers. I'm not seeing the property, but if I try and add it as a custom property, i get an error that i can't add a property that already exists. Again, creating a new controler will result in the expected behavior.
17 Apr 2012 11:47 AM #3
We implemented the ability to upgrade projects at version 302. Chances are you're missing an upgrade somewhere between 283 and 302 that we never implemented. We tried to keep users projects upgraded and in sync, but it was explicitly noted that there was no guarantee projects would work from beta to beta.
If you send the project to us at designer.feedback at sencha.com. We'll gladly take a look.Aaron Conran
17 Apr 2012 11:53 AM #4
I was able to get the controllers included by manually editing the metadata/Application file.


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the words lauren and whore mixed and some dumbass bitch who doesnt understand 99% of what is said to her and who also looks like the green goblin. oh and she has std's like no other.
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A gay name for made up for someone by some guy who is just mad because she doesn't like him.
Zac wishes he was good enough for whauren.
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Third and final Thief story trailer lays a trap for Master Thief GarrettWritten by: / / 1 Comment
The third and final entry to the excellent 'Stories from The City' video series detailing the rich world and characters of Square Enix's Thief is now available, this time introducing us to the cruel and cunning 'Thief Taker General,' who claims that he knows the tricks and trades of the city's thieves and is more than up to the challenge of capturing Master Thief Garrett – a prize that this Commander of the Baron's Watch desires the most.
Here is the official description of this despicable character:
"The Thief Taker General is corrupt to the bone, using fear to enforce an exorbitant 'black tax' on members of the underworld; those who don't pay find themselves at the end of a noose.
"The Thief Taker General also runs a grisly large-scale operation where the bodies of the victims who have died from the mysterious sickness known as 'The Gloom' are collected and stripped bare, everything of value is stolen from their cold, stiff corpses; clothes, jewellery – even artificial limbs and gold teeth. So who is the biggest Thief in The City?"
Thief – Thief Taker General's Hunt Trailer
Thief is scheduled to be released on the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC on February 25th in North America and February 28th in Europe.
Feel free to browse through El33tonline's previous and continued coverage of Thief as we close in on the game's launch, and watch this comprehensive gameplay trailer to catch up on the game's features all in one video.
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