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Catholic laity seek voice in choice of bishop
Voice of the Faithful is trying to make sure parishioners have a meaningful say in the choice of the next archbishop of Chicago. To that end, VOTF has set up a Web site to solicit comments on who should succeed Cardinal Francis George (who turned 75 on Jan. 16). It says this effort is based on canon law 212, which states, "The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires."The Archdiocese of Chicago is not exactly bubbling over with enthusiasm for this project and has barred parishes from referring to it in their bulletins. According to the Chicago Tribune:
Although the cardinal supports the group's goal of energizing people in the pews, the creation of a clearinghouse for communication taints the process, the church said.
"Voice of the Faithful is an independent group that has no standing in the Catholic Church," said Colleen Dolan, a spokeswoman for the cardinal. "The idea of encouraging people to send thoughts and ideas to the nuncio (papal representative) is in canon law and is a very good idea. There's no reason why it has to go through a separate group to be filtered."
Canon law 377 permits the papal nuncio, "if he judges it expedient," to "seek individually and in secret the opinion of others from both the secular and non-secular clergy and from laity outstanding in wisdom." VOTF argues for an expansive consultation, pointing to the practice of electing bishops in the early church and to the role assigned to the laity at the Second Vatican Council.Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, the papal nuncio who will recommend three candidates to the pope, welcomed individual comments but did not want VOTF to serve as an intermediary.Voice of the Faithful has opened up the discussion in a way that would not have occurred had the matter been left strictly to officials of the Chicago archdiocese. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops makes no specific mention of the role of the laity in a description of the process posted on its Web site. Retiring bishops report to the nuncio about potential successors, it says, adding that "Broad consultation within the diocese is encouraged with regard to the needs of the diocese, but not the names of candidates." The bishop is to give the papal emissary "the names of individuals in the diocese with whom the Nuncio might consult and how to contact them."It should not go unnoticed that Archbishop Vigano has opened the process somewhat by telling Voice of the Faithful that he "would willingly receive any expression of a lay Catholic in regard to his or her own concerns in regard to a new bishop or recommendations that he or she might propose." (Maybe the USCCB should update its Web page, specifically addressing the role and rights of the laity.)To find out more, go to www.votf.org/bishop.
About the Author
Paul Moses, a professor of journalism at Brooklyn College/CUNY, is the author of The Saint and the Sultan: The Crusades, Islam and Francis of Assisi's Mission of Peace (Doubleday, 2009) and An Unlikely Union: The Love-Hate Story of New York's Irish and Italians (NYU Press, 2015).
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OK, VOTF, let's hear your side.
I have some experience similar to that of VOTF in Chicago. As Director of Fairfield University's Center for Catholic Studies I held a "Forum on Choosing a Bishop" at the university shortly after the announcement of Bishop Lori's transfer from Bridgeport, CT to the Archdiocese of Baltimore. I wrote to the Vicar-General inviting his involvement and assuring him of a fair hearing for all points of view. He ignored my letter and a Chancery official, later appointed Apostolic Administrator, sent an email to his clergy discouraging them from participating or encouraging their parishioners from doing so. I found out about the email indirectly. After the forum, which was calm, thoughtful and entirely non-controversial in its findings, I worked with a small committee to draft a letter to the Nuncio, copying the Apostolic Administrator. I have yet to receive so much as an acknowledgment of either. Borrowing famous words from Cornel West I am impelled to ask of both Chicago and Bridgeport: "Brother, what are you afraid of?" And I have to wonder how this corresponds to the fine words in Lumen Gentium and Apostolicam Actuositatem about the obligation of the clergy to take the laity seriously and the obligation of the laity to speak out for the good of the church. Evidently the powers-that-be are persuaded that the arcane and secretive process currently employed simply could not be improved upon by allowing a little open discussion.
Back to selection of bishops:I think whenever the PEOPLE assert themselves into the selection of bishops for their diocese, or priests for their parishes, it is a step in the right direction.Certainly, in the future, when priests are as rare as unicorns the hierarchy will have to open up the process. The hierarchy should get used to consulting the serfs.Not surprised that the hierarchy would discourage any group [like VOTF] from organizing this effort. I sure that the hierarchy doesn't want to do anything to create the expectation that the serfs have a voice in selection of pastoral leaders.The California VOTF branch conducted a public "discernment" event years ago when now Cardinal Levada left to go to Rome. Although the SF archdiocese officially ignored us, a good size crowd of PEOPLE from across the Bay Area gathered [in a parish hall] for a day to participate where possible candidates (both men and women) were identified. The results of the discernment were shared with the apostolic nuncio and archdiocesan officials, but there was never any acknowledgement of this event from the hierarchy - although chancellory spies were perched around the back of the room.Good luck, Chicago! Put some light and heat on the feudal Roman process of selecting autocratic bishops. It will be good to see how the hierarchy will seek to undermine and demean your efforts while at the same time try to distract from and cover-up any consideration of the provisions of canon law that require at least consultation with the PEOPLE.
Even if only to counter VOTF, the Chicago archdiocese appears to at least somewhat honor the very modest lay involvement called for in canon law. The next question to ask is why is there no formal meeting between the Nuncio and the Archdiocesan Pastoral Council? Here we have a body that exists by canon law, not elected but appointed by the Bishop, with no actual authority but only a consultative role, and supposedly representing the lay faithful. Still, even this extremely modest, non-threatening, advisory body is unworthy of a private meeting with the Nuncio to follow an agenda set by him to talk about the pastoral needs of the See. What are these people afraid of?
Are the laity even interested in who will be the next Chicago Cardinal ? The Chicago church is losing just like the Chicago Cubs.. Do the fans of a losing team clamor to have input into their next pitching ace ? No.. They usually call for new ownership.
From the Vatican's own canon law website:"Can. 212 1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors, inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church."2. The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires."3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons."May I propose we get realistic here?Let's ignore canon 212.2: It's fluff.Let's also ignore (for now) canon 212.1: It merely reminds the laity they are bound to "obey" the hierarchs (and, by extension, their parish pastor, aka, "Father"). That leaves us with canon 212.3. Liberal and progressive Catholics like to quote section 3 --- but only the part they consider relevant, to wit, the laity "have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful."A few years ago, I asked Louisville's archbishop, Joseph Kurtz, in writing about his policy regarding publication of readers' letters in THE RECORD, the local church newspaper. In a nutshell, besides making clear he would not sanction publication of letters expressing disagreement with church teaching, the archbishop expressly noted the phraseology in canon 212.3 that the rest of us prefer to ignore, to wit, "According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess..." Let's ignore, too, the section's reference to "without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons."Fact is the hierarchs do not want expression of opinion by the shekel-tossing riffraff. Canon law, as I've stated elsewhere many a time, is of the hierarchs, by the hierarchs, and for the hierarchs. "Them's who rites the rules, interprets the rules, and applys the rules."Canon 212's loopholes are so big that one could fly an Airbus A380 through it. If a local archbishop can deny lay input in what is supposed to be a *community* newspaper, do not think for a minute that he and his buddies give a tinker's dam for our opinion. It's "pray, pay, obey". Period. End of story.Money talks.The hierarchs know this fact of life.The laity must make its absence talk louder.(at last report, btw, louisville's cathedral --- once a vibrant downtown parish --- is no longer self-sustaining)
Please, please, PLEASE: Let it be Salvatore Cordileone before he wreaks too much havoc in the Archdiocese of San Francisco!He wants a new pointy hat so bad he can taste it and has the backing of Raymond "Aren't My Duds So Very Very Pretty!" Burke. Sorry, Chicago ... San Francisco's loss will be your really BIG loss!
"Evidently the powers-that-be are persuaded that the arcane and secretive process currently employed simply could not be improved upon by allowing a little open discussion."Or could it be that the idea of actually consulting with the folks who are about to the "shepherded" is simply not an idea worth pursuing? Why should it be: this self-selected, self-centered, clericalist autocracy has managed to perpetuate itself since kings and other secular rulers were finally disinvited from having a say. The Boyos are on a roll and don't need no stinkin's pew potatoes sticking their 2 cents worth in.No siree Bob!
A young seminarian spoke at my parish in support of a collection for the diocesan seminary. He cutely explained the progress of his vocation and how happy he was to come visit us and see the church in action. He asked for our prayers and offered his. He got a loud round of applause.Thus is the continued serfdom of the laity set up since the Middle Ages when the church became Empire and people like Augustine of Hippo were its new ambassadors. Despite the massive failure of the church in protecting children the hierarchy is still able to keep the People of God from influencing policy. In fact the people in Augustine's day had more say than we have today. Mediocrity took over the church in the fourth century and the Fathers of the Church presided over it. Francis and Ignatius attempted reform but the Empire remained steadfast. As long as the church makes knights out of rich Catholics the system will remain. Bishops can call meetings of those who disagree and furtively lock the doors of the churches while the meeting goes on. And get away with it.Liberals within the church counteract organizations like VOTF which was formed to change the structure of the church. Mediocrity remains because there is no will among the laity to change it.
Let me suggest that the most important reform concerning bishops has to do with re-thinking what it means to say that they are "successors of the Apostles." I agree that they are the only successors we have or can have, but that neither makes them good nor wise successors. To claim that the successors we get are always good and wise flies in the face of history. So long as one takes a canon law approach to who exercises episcopal power, namely one appointed by the pope, we will not have any way to hold those appointed to account for what they do nor will we have any effective way to claim that those who need the ministry of bishops have every reason to concern themselves not only with who is appointed but also with the performance of those appointed. To demand anything less is, in the end, to trivialize the role of the bishop. To be answerable to no one is eventually a ticket to irrelevance.I have no idea just what process to select bishops ought to be constructed, but the present system is too bureaucratic to be taken seriously.
Bill Mazzella:Speaking of Augustine of Hippo:In 426, he appointed one of his priests, Eraclius, as his successor. He assembled his people along with his priests and two of his fellow bishops to obtain their consent to the arrangement. The event was recorded by notaries. When he asked the people to voice their approval: The people shouted, saying twenty-five times, Agreed! Agreed! then twenty-eight times, It is worthy, it is just! then fourteen times, Agreed! Agreed! then twenty-five times, He has long been worthy, he has long been deserving! then thirteen times, We give thanks for your decision! then eighteen times, O Christ, hear us; preserve Eraclius! (Letter 213).P.S. I think they were happy with the arrangement.
Helen, Good job. Note that I wrote above: " In fact the people in Augustines day had more say than we have today."
I'm not certain that the commenters here are following the right scent.When Colleen Dolan says, Voice of the Faithful is an independent group that has no standing in the Catholic Church... The idea of encouraging people to send thoughts and ideas to the nuncio (papal representative) is in canon law and is a very good idea. Theres no reason why it has to go through a separate group to be filtered ...... and when Cardinal Vigano notes that he would willingly receive any expression of a lay Catholic in regard to his or her own concerns in regard to a new bishop or recommendations that he or she might propose ...... it seems to me the most straightforward interpretation is that, in fact, and pace many of the comments here, input from the laity is welcome. It seems that the issue isn't with input with the laity, but with VOTF inserting itself as an intermediary between the people and the church hierarchy.I haven't been involved in VOTF. I read a bit about them when they were founded. My impression, which may be incorrect, is that in those days they desired a collaborative, cooperative relationship with the church hierarchy.For whatever reason, it seems that, in the judgment of senior church officials, it hasn't earned that place at the table.Does VOTF want that place at the table? Does it want to work with church officials in a spirit of open and trustworthy collaboration? Is it a dream of VOTF that it would be consulted on episcopal openings?If so, then VOTF needs to change. I don't know what specifically it needs to do. But it needs to convince bishops that it is a trustworthy partner.Planting this story in the Chicago Tribune, if that is what VOTF did in this case, is probably not the best way to go about that. In my opinion, that tactic relegates VOTF to gadfly status. Perhaps that is what it wants - to publicly comment on and criticize the church hierarchy. That is already a rather crowded category, and in my view, it is not the path to a trusted partnership.Every parish, every diocese, has trusted laypersons. Some of them are able to exert influence, I hope for the good. Earning the trust of church officials is not some impossible status to achieve.
You can have all the opinions you want sent to the nuncios you want and all the places at all the tables you want and it won't make much difference. The core problem is a structural one. The Church is an autocracy, governed as an eighteenth century royal court. That won't change until the nickel drops and the faithful choose to exercise the power of their voices and their pocketbooks to drag Church governance into the third millennium. The bishops will not change until the faithful give them some extremely strong reasons to change.
Jim P "...they (VOTF) desired a collaborative, cooperative relationship with the church hierarchy."My impression from the very beginning was that VOTF wanted such and made overtures that were repeatedly rebuffed. Read "Keep The Faith, Change The Church: The Battle By Catholics For The Soul Of Their Church" by VOTF founder Dr. James Muller and journalist Charles Kenney.There are revealing accounts of those exchanges. Even money we raised in a Voice of Compassion Fund was rejected by Law --- about 50K as I recall.From my long experience as survivor support chairman of our affiliate, I found little to recommend our bishops' conduct, but much to cheer from the Attorney General's office.This was especially true during the long obstruction of state audits by the diocese; audits it had agreed to in exchange for not being criminally prosecuted. Finally, McCormack apparently got the message it was better to cooperate than obstruct. The AG subsequently became our US Senator Kelly Ayotte, who commented at one of our VOTF meetings that she had "to drag them kicking and screaming" into compliance.When McCormack finally resigned, we sent our recommendations to the nuncio anyway; this despite an understandable but elegant "get lost" letter from the chancery. That's just the prevailing reality for however long it lasts. We aren't major donors or well-placed insiders likely to be solicited for our views.Interestingly, Cardinal George wrote our national office in 2010 noting, "an individual, whether a cleric or lay person, is always free to communicate with his or her bishop regarding the merits of a particular priest for service in the Church as a bishop. Such advice is much appreciated."Actually, we commented only on the characteristics we felt would address the needs of the diocese as we see them. We want to establish some precedent over time for lay input, even it it is unwanted and unread. Someday in the far future maybe there will be restoration of a more formal role for laity; maybe not, but when I approach the pearly gate, hopefully action scores better than silence. It's for the long haul...I got the impression from the Tribune reporter when she called that there was no "plant" for the story, but I don't know. More VOTF affiliates are following the issue of lay input in episcopal appointments so more recommendations and news articles may be generated as a result. I believe it's a relatively new idea since no one of my acquaintance ever considered offering anything in the past. A process for lay consultation in the appointment of pastors is effective in NH, and it is a natural development to take it one step up the line.
Jeanne,I more than suspect you are correct but the current rate of implosion might have unplanned consequences. Cardinal Martini's last interview indicates there are shafts of light in the blue surround.
1) Why doesn't VOTF also gather opinions from the priests of the diocese? They, by and large, do not have a voice either. 2) Even though people's opinion will be ignored, still, if VOTF sees people's opinions, then they might be able to identify a priest of the diocese who would seem like a suitable leader, and then he could be like a shadow bishop: he would be the person that people would go to for advice, direction and support, the person around which the community would gather in difficult times, the person who would give some unity to the diocese.
The Code of Canon Law put the appointment of bishops firmly in the Pope's hands, a dangerous innovation in line with the dictatorships that would make the century so memorable.John Paul II radicalized this, quashing traditional hold-outs against the Vatican monopoly. I'm reading Hans Kng's book, Ist die Kirche noch zu retten? What a blessing the Piper-Verlag has been for him!
Carolyn, I do think the nickel-dropping may come sooner than we think. It is really quite ridiculous that a royal court governance structure still exists. It is even stranger that we accept it as normal. It is stranger still that most of us fail to measure the harm that it directly inflicts on the Church and its ability to carry out its mission. When that changes, when the average parishioner **sees** the structural ridiculousness, very interesting things will start happening. In that sense, its a good thing that serious people write serious news items about how 2.3 million Catholics in the Chicago archdiocese have essentially no input into who their next bishop will be.The author of the piece in the Chicago Tribune, Manya Brachear, is the religion reporter. I've been reading her stuff for years, news big and small on the faith scene in the city. She is not a blob upon whom stories can be "planted." The fact that VOTF is attempting to organize input from the 2.3 million Catholics in the area is indeed news, as is the response from the Archdiocese: that the Church loves input from the faithful but no organizing, please, and keep your efforts out of the Church bulletins!
"A process for lay consultation in the appointment of pastors is effective in NH, and it is a natural development to take it one step up the line."Carolyn - I agree. We have lay consultation in this archdiocese as well when it comes to pastor appointments. My experience is that it is to gather the sort of thing that you put in your chancery letter: a description of the characteristics that the people think are needed in that pastoral situation. To what extent that advice is followed in pastor appointments, I don't know, but I do think the church officials listen sincerely, at least around here, and within the constraints of the thin bench that all dioceses face in pastor appointments, I think they do try to make a good match. I agree with you that there is no reason that a process couldn't be developed for episcopal appointments as well. Listening/conversation sessions could be arranged in each deanery or vicariate, and the people could weigh in. (For all I know, such things may already be in place, although I'm not aware of it around here.)In what I just described, it's not clear what VOTF's role would be. Rightly or wrongly, I think VOTF may be perceived as a political party for progressives in the Church. I suspect that the sort of candidate advocacy that Claire described in her 9/18 6:31 am comment would not be welcome, if for no other reason than that it is susceptible to manipulation by potential candidates. There are other paths for priests with a thirst to be bishop than leading a popular political campaign.
Jim: you're in Chicago, right? So you should participate: send a letter to the official channel, and give a copy to VOTF. I'm sure that you have some opinions about the needs of the diocese.
Some paragraphs I wrote a decade or so ago:Both of the Codes of Canon Law (1917 and 1983) describe the reasons for which a bishop may remove a pastor. The general principle is that a bishop may act when there is any cause that is rendering a pastor's ministry harmful or at least ineffective. Both Codes make a point that such a situation might arise even without any serious guilt on the part of the pastor. They then offer examples of the more important of such causes. The first of these is fairly obvious: incompetence or permanent infirmity of mind or body which makes the pastor incapable of properly fulfilling his duties. But then come some reasons that might not be so obvious. A pastor can also be removed if he loses his good reputation among upright and serious people; if he has earned the hatred of his people (odium plebis in the old Code; the new Code says aversio in parochum, which might seem a lesser matter, although one of the classical meanings of the Latin word is "loathing"), even if this alienation, said the old Code, is unjust and not universal, as long, say both Codes, as it is not expected to end any time soon; if, even after warnings, he seriously neglects or violates his parochial duties; if he has poorly administered temporal (that is, financial) matters with serious harm to the Church.In short the Codes make it clear that a pastor who has lost his reputation, from whom the people turn away, no longer seeking his ministry, who seriously neglects his duties, who causes serious financial loss to the Church, is a pastor who has lost his effective authority. It might be noted that, although these criteria are not applied to the cases of bishops (the process for removing bishops is nowhere mentioned in the Code), it recently became quite clear in several cases in our country that they hold also in the case of bishops. The admiration, esteem, love, and trust of the people co-constitute genuine authority.Does it need to be said that these are not attitudes, affections, that can be coerced? You cant order people to admire someone, to trust someone, to love someone. Now if, in fact, Church law provides a place for the judgements and attitudes of the people to have a say in the removal of a pastor or a bishop, the question will naturally arise whether they should not have a say in the appointment of a bishop or a pastor. This should not be dismissed as revolutionary, something aimed at turning the Church into a democracy. It was once considered a normative, even an apostolic norm that the clergy and the people have a voice in the selection of their bishops. St. Cyprian gave the reason: the people know the candidates and can testify to their worthiness or can refuse the unworthy. Pope after pope, council after council, reaffirmed this norm until well into the Middle Ages. St. Celestine I, noted that a bishop had been appointed from outside a local church and without its participation, and he coined the often repeated axiom: Nullus invitis detur episcopus, No bishop is to be imposed on an unwilling people. The consent and desires of the clergy and people must be sought out. The same pope said that it should be very rare that a bishop is not chosen from among the clergy of the local Church, and that the local clergy had a right to refuse a bishop imposed from without. It was another pope, Leo I, no slouch when it came to defending papal and episcopal power, who made his own an axiom of Roman law: The one who is to preside over all should be chosen by all. And he gave a reason: No bishop is to be ordained for an unwilling people, who have not asked for him. Otherwise the city may either despise or hate the undesired one and may become less religious than it should because they were not permitted to have the one they wanted (Ep. 14; PL 54, 673).A question: What has changed in the conception of the Church that what was enjoined by popes in the fifth century should be regarded as revolutionary by many churchmen in the twenty-first century?
"Jim: youre in Chicago, right? So you should participate: send a letter to the official channel, and give a copy to VOTF. Im sure that you have some opinions about the needs of the diocese."Hi, Claire, yes, I am in Chicago. FWIW - one of the things that's kind of interesting about this VOTF initiative is the timing. Cardinal George is 75. He is also a cancer patient. When he turned 75, he submitted his resignation to the Holy Father, as is required by canon law. At that time (before he learned that he has cancer again), he stated pretty openly that he expected that he'd have a couple of years more in leadership before his resignation is accepted, as apparently that is customary for guys in his position. Now he has announced that he has cancer, but it's not yet publicly known how serious it is nor what the prognosis is. As far as I know, his resignation still hasn't been accepted.What I'm pointing out here are the optics of the situation. He is an elderly cancer patient in a demanding position who is trying to fulfill his duties - and here is VOTF running a campaign to choose his successor, as though he has one foot or more out the door - or in the grave. There is an element of the vultures circling. If I develop an opinion that I want to share, I'll wait until there is an actual opening. Until then - he's my guy.
Great post, Fr. Joe. The reality I hope we come to accept is that an organization can't be run autocratically AND run according to the rule of law at the same time. Either the rule of kings (i.e., popes, bishops) trumps the rule of law or the rule of law trumps the rule of kings. It's one or the other. The experience of the sexual abuse crisis points out that even canon law can be easily circumvented, used when it is useful and ignored when it is not.
"It seems that the issue isn't with input [from] the laity, but with VOTF inserting itself as an intermediary between the people and the church hierarchy."VOTF is comprised of individual human beings, all of whom share, inter alia, a common goal, namely, meaningful lay input into episcopal selections. True, the nuncio or even the current local ordinary can receive input from one person, but there is strength in numbers. People organize precisely because they know they have a better chance of being acknowledged and *listened to* by institutional leadership than if each person were acting alone. Absent organized lay effort, the only avenue is withholding monetary support to pastor and bishop (admittedly not a bad idea in its own right).In the meantime, we see a Midwest bishop remaining in office even though he was convicted --- twelve days ago!!! --- of failing to report sexual child abuse to law enforcement. The bishop put institutional (and, no doubt, personal) considerations ahead of his duty to safeguard children entrusted to his pastoral care by the Vatican. And what is Rome doing in response? We don't know. So much for episcopal and papal transparency and accountability!Canon law be damned!It's long past time for Catholics in every local church to organize *confidence/no confidence* votes regarding episcopal leadership or lack of same. If Rome refuses to listen, refuses to heed the voice of the laity, then the people must grab the proverbial bull by the horns and take action.If Catholic laity do not stand up to the hierarchs, the people deserve all the institutional crap that comes their way!!!
Fr. K @ 8:52AM today:"It might be noted that, although these criteria are not applied to the cases of bishops (the process for removing bishops is nowhere mentioned in the Code), it recently became quite clear in several cases in our country that they hold also in the case of bishops."Sniff, we quoted such passages in our canon law case in 2003 against NH bishops to no avail. Any enablers of abuse amongst those mentioned above? Good news. Names?"III. Applicable CanonsThis appeal is brought forward in the light of specific canons. Of particular relevance to our understanding of the law in this case are the canons governing the resignation of ecclesiastical officials, the resignations of diocesan bishops in particular, the canons that instruct on the reasons a pastor may be removed from a parish (which we interpret to apply by analogy, and which we read in light of the canons defining the role and pastoral responsibility of diocesan bishops), and the canon that addresses punishment for one who abuses ecclesiastical power or an office." Pages of citations and evidence followed. Let's see if the Finn case penetrates papal inaction.I learned from a canon lawyer that all executive, legislative and judicial power resides in the PERSON of the bishop. No balance/separation of powers is operable. The deck is mostly stacked, no? Quotations from the historical record bring yawns or approval from today's officials? Fr. K: "A question: What has changed in the conception of the Church that what was enjoined by popes in the fifth century should be regarded as revolutionary by many churchmen in the twenty-first century?"Please do offer your views of what has changed. I'm truly interested in the answers.
Thanks, Fr. Komonchak.I don't know enough to frame the following question very well. But could it be that the pope's present status as both the successor of Peter and as the head of a political entity, namely Vatican State, muddles how curial officials, or perhaps some particular popes themselves, understand their work and their relationship to Catholic people who are citizens of a variety of other political states?If there is such a confusion of roles, then it is not unlikely that how one understands appriopriate obedience will be adversely affected.
Again, this discourse and the VOTF initative is one big waste of time. Until such time as there are not enough Catholics to pay their parish's and the chancery's bills, Catholic bishops will continue to do as they have always done. They will reign supreme. This exercise may allow people to show each other their brilliance regarding church law, but other than that, nothing is going to change. I remember reading many years ago about a black nun who lived and worked in Harlem helping others at a time when Harlem was riddled with disease, high unemployment, unsanitary living conditions and extreme poverty, much like a third world country.When this particular nun would speak, the room would be filled to standing room only. The Sister was hard on the people she spoke to, mostly priests and religious. Nonetheless, they kept coming back in droves.Her resounding message went something like this: "If you really love Jesus and you know about the pain and suffering of the people of Harlem -- if you really love Jesus -- you will leave your homes and jobs to help in Harlem."Helping to establish the Kingdom of God in the here and now is full-time work. There's not a moment to waste.
Newsflash: Roman Catholic bishops are not elected by the laity. And this; the Roman Catholic Church is not a democracy.Just trying to help clarify the matter - no need to thank me - glad I could help!;-)
Ken,Your delighted assistance may be premature (grin). Since the church prides itself on taking centuries to change, and returning to the sources of prior eras is acceptable, who knows when the precedents of Cyprian, Celestine and Leo may again be au courant?
"Newsflash: Roman Catholic bishops are not elected by the laity..."No crap, Ken! (i could have written "no kiddin'!" or have used the "$-word", instead)As my Protestant momma used to remind us from time to time: "Those who laugh last --- laugh best!"Keep on a' laughin', sir.Ain't over till it's over!!!
...and it ain't over!!!
Please do offer your views of what has changed. I second that.
"If so, then VOTF needs to change. I dont know what specifically it needs to do. But it needs to convince bishops that it is a trustworthy partner."Until and unless VOTF agrees to play second fiddle and acquiesce to the ordained in all decisions, that won't happen. Bishops will NOT accept laity as equal partners in non-dogma related decisions.All you have to do is look at the relationship of Pastoral and Finance Councils to the ordained: advisory only. Advice - not consent.
I sometimes wonder if Archbishop Chaput is starting to see that there is something dreadfully wrong in the culture of the hierarchy. Since he has had to solve the problems caused by Cardinals Bevilaqua and Rigali he seems to realize that maybe something was dreadfully wrong in the governance of Philadelphia. If he is honest enough, he might even do some self-criticism. He strikes me as a very smart and truthful man. We'll see.
ABSOLUTE PAPAL CONTROL VIA YES-MEN BISHOPS Ever since the late Pope John Paul II assumed the papacy, there has been a concerted effort to gain absolute papal control of the church via the appointment of only yes-men bishops. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) learned a valuable management lesson in the 1980s when serving as the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. He was then frustrated by his inability to crush liberation theology and dictate terms to South American bishops who were not only blessed with rare combinations of skills, but also had the backing of base communities of the non-elite -- especially in Brazil. His frustrations were eliminated over time via appointment of Opus Dei and other yes-men bishops. Fr. Thomas Reese, a fellow at Georgetown University's Woodstock Theological Center commented on the recent passing of Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini: "He had a "rare combination of skills as a scholar, pastor, communicator and holy man. If there was a young Martini in the church today, he would not be made a bishop or cardinal. Sad to say, neither would Chicagos beloved former archbishop, the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin. I believe that the organizers of the initiative do not suffer from the mistaken notion that their input would really influence the archbishop selection process. The overall goal of the VOTF bishop selection initiative is likely to educate Catholics about their rights and responsibilities. So, a potentially valuable spin-off of the effort would be an awakening of pew-sitting Catholics to the fact that THEY ARE THE CHURCH."For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matthew 18:20
Further to the above, in a comment on the May 18, 2012, COMMONWEAL Editorial, "Rome & Women Religious," at (http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/rome-women-religious), I referenced the late Penney Lernoux's 1989 book, People of God: The Struggle for World Catholicism, that was based on her years of research in Latin America and the United States. Toward the end of Lernoux's tragically short life (January 6, 1940 October 9, 1989) she focused on the clamping down on dissent by John Paul II and Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI). Lernoux described John Paul II's attempt to fortify an authoritarian model of the church as an effort to restore pre-Vatican II Roman Catholicism. and documented the church's dismissal of scholars who questioned John Paul II's papacy. Lernoux also dissected various groups struggling for control of the church telling readers that prior to the advent of liberation theology, Latin American cardinals and bishops aligned themselves with the rich and the powerful -- right-wing government officials, landowners, the wealthy elite, and American business interests. This behavior provides a fitting metaphor for the roles being played by U.S. Cardinals Wuerl Timothy Dolan, and their fellow papal yes-men members of the USCCB who are faithful to the Vatican but not to poor and disenfranchised Americans, as well as women religious . BTW, the last apostolic nuncio to recommend a progressive candidate for elevation as a bishop was the Belgian prelate Jean Adopt who served from May 23, 1974 until June 27, 1980. Jadot was considered a progressive leader in the American Church and was seen favorably by the Vatican under Pope Paul VI, who rejected Jadot's initial offer to resign. Paul's second successor, Pope John Paul II, accepted Jadot's subsequent resignation in 1980. It is quite well known that, especially under John Paul II, Jadots quite progressive views were the main obstacle for him to be made a cardinal. To be sure, our present Apostolic Nuncio, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, is no Jean Jadot.
CORRECTIONS AND MORE: 1. The last sentence of the next-to-last paragraph above should read: This behavior provides a fitting metaphor for the roles being played by U.S. Cardinals Donald Wuerl, Timothy Dolan, and their fellow papal yes-men members of the USCCB who are faithful to the Vatican but not to poor and disenfranchised Americans, as well as women religious .2. The first sentence in the last paragraph should read: BTW, the last apostolic nuncio to recommend a progressive candidate for elevation as a bishop was the Belgian prelate Jean Jadot who served from May 23, 1974 until June 27, 1980. Also, the reader's attention is called to my related comments on E.J. Dionnes May 23, 2012, Commonweal article, "All Aboard? -- Not Every Bishop Agrees with the USCCB Religious Freedom Strategy, (http://commonwealmagazine.org/all-aboard?) and on Sister X's October 09, 2009,Commonweal article, "Cross Examination: Why Is Rome Investigating U.S. Nuns?" at (http://commonwealmagazine.org/cross-examination).
Frank, you are absolutely correct. Thank you for your wisdom; Voice of the Faithful (VOTF) chose this project deliberately to educate the laity on their rights and responsibilities. We engaged more in an educational action than to change the governance system. We began this project nearly two years ago and with all things Catholic, things move slowly but our experience has been that as Catholics give themselves permission to step out and question, comment or dialogue with other Catholics, timidity is replaced by a strong sense of enthusiasm and empowerment. It is one step, a small one perhaps, but a step. We are hoping that others jump on the bandwagon and this could occur in other places. We've stirred the expected negative reaction from the Archdiocese which means we have hit a nerve, a sensitivity around their need for absolute control, which, at this juncture, is myth.
I don't know whether anyone is still checking this topic, but Paul Culhane, who was mentioned in the Chicago Tribune story in Paul Moses' original post, has had a guest column published in the Daily Herald, which serves the suburban area where I live.Whether this is behind a paywall or not, I'm not certain.http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120927/discuss/709279985/


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Reliance says integration of a downstream value chain is essential for global players to compete with upcoming US facilities.
By Ben DuBose
Online Editor
NEW DELHI -- Integration throughout the
downstream value chain is essential if global players want to
compete with future US facilities, according to Dr. Ajit
Sapre, head of research and technology for private Indian refiner Reliance
Sapre, who
delivered the keynote address Thursday at the International Refining and Petrochemical Conference (IRPC),
referred to shale gas as a game changer in North
America, noting that the advantage of cheap ethane feedstock appears unlikely to change
anytime soon.
As a result, for companies such as Reliance that hope to
compete on the global scene, it is critical to integrate
wherever possible.
An integrated approach provides synergies and gives
the ability to hedge the market risk, Dr. Sapre said.
Dr. Sapre noted that profitability cycles for petrochemical
plants and refineries are often different. For example, the petrochemicals cycle of
profitability repeats every seven to 10 years, he said.
Operating rates and profits are high when supply meets
demand, Dr. Sapre said. Additional capacity buildup
then leads to lower operating rates and margins drop. That is,
until supply meets demand, and everyone wants to build new
On the other hand, refinery profitability depends on
crude oil prices, giving it a differently-timed cycle.
Since the cycles are generally out of sync, the
integration of refining and petrochemicals adds profitability
and stability to your business, Dr. Sapre said.
Future ethane-based US facilities will use feedstock from an adjacent refinery
for three units, he explained: a steam cracker, an aromatics
complex and a gasification syngas plant, he explained. Then,
the syngas plant provides fuel oil and fuel gas for the
For non-US producers, there are several potential
integration types to consider. The first is process
integration, which means innovative designs of downstream
petrochemical plants. The second is utility integration, which includes heat,
hydrogen, water, steam and electricity. The third and final is
the treatment of fuel gas, such as utilizing the hydrogen and
hydrocarbons present in fuel gas petrochemical feedstock.
By region, the Middle East is the best positioned to execute
that plan based on its newer facilities, Dr. Sapre said.
Meanwhile, Western Europe sites, which are more
specialized, could struggle the most.
The integrated approach provides synergies and gives
the ability to hedge market risk, he said. The
Middle East is clearly the most advantaged based on feedstock,
while Western Europe probably the least. Leaders
in the industry need to survive through the market cycles.
Low-cost importers and integrated players will run
hard, while specialized companies are more likely subject to
shocks, he added.
One strategy is to co-locate facilities at major hubs, he
explained, with one example being Singapores Jurong
Island. Key companies there include BASF, BP, Celanese, EM,
DuPont, Mitsui Chemicals, Chevron Oronite, Shell and Sumitomo
By co-locating, companies can save as much as 15% on
logistics costs, Dr. Sapre said.
Another international facility that could thrive in the new
era is Reliances Jamnagar super site in India, which is the worlds
largest refinery, he said.
Referring to Jamnagar as the crown jewel of his
companys portfolio, he noted that it has two of the
largest fluid catalytic crackers (FCCs) in the world, which
provide cheap feedstock for petrochemicals.
The offgas gives feed for a gas cracker, naphtha offers feed
to the aromatics complex, propylene supplies feed for a
polypropylene plant, and a mix of C4s serves as feed for the
alkylation unit.
Given demand, FCCs are becoming more and more a
machine to make downstream products than for gasoline, he
Reliance is also undertaking a massive refinery petcoke
gasification project at Jamnagar, seeking an even
deeper integration.
Were on path to become a bottomless and
ultra-clean refinery, he said. Its the
largest petcoke gasification project in the world.
The project is driven by a desire for
energy self-sufficiency, he said, with syngas competitive with
natural gas.
As other panelists explained this week, the
US ethane advantage is making it tougher for international
companies such as Reliance to compete on the global scene. Dr.
Sapre seemed to concur with that assessment, predicting the US
to become a major petrochemical exporter in the coming
However, the Reliance executive is confident that his
companys integration strategy will keep it
We own and operate the worlds largest refinery complex [at
Jamnagar], he said. We have a top 10 global ranking
[in integration]. Were moving from
a regional to a global leader.
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Economic Advantage has been taken operating largest refinery cum petrochemical using proper logistic site. DR AB HALGERI
Excellent Presentation by Dr. Sapre on Indian Capability of establishing world class Refinery cum Petrochemicals at Jamanagar .It is commendable to operate worlds largest Refinery at single location DR ANAND HALGERI
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Venezuela used this concept since the 1950. In 1990 1991 the Master Plan for the development of "Jose Petrochimical Complex" conceptualized the centralization of Methan-Ethane feeds and services (electricity, fuel gas, industrial water, etc.) supplied by the national petrochimal company as the bases for development of primary plants by the private and goverment industries, capables of generating by the private sector all other secondary and satelite plants fed by the products of the initial plants. Eventually part of that infrastructure was used for locating 5 crude oil upgraders.
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The Edison Local School District is attempting to pass a levy: Here is some of the information you will get should you ask about the use of funds.
Edison spends $9,431.29 for each of its 1,917 students, $841.51 of which is expended for transportation. More than $9,000 a year on each student is a lot of money. However, should anyone wish to know what any school district in Ohio spent per student in 2011, the figures are available, but just a couple for your information -Toronto spends $ 9,752.06 and Steubenville comes in at $9,366.27. I do not have the amount these districts spend on transportation, but Edison has one of the largest land areas to cover of any district in the state of Ohio.
I have attended several monthly meetings of the Edison board of education. I have visited with members of the community, asked questions about people's attitude concerning the levy. It is amazing to listen to folks who say that they will not vote for a levy because they do not have children in school or their children attend school in another district.
Neither of these "reasons" for not supporting a levy is understandable. Who can really understand how a person who was furnished an education believes that now they have no responsibility to the next generation of children? How can a child become a productive adult unless the child has a quality education?
Concerning the other issue, where children attend school in another district so the family believes it has no obligation to fund the district in which the family lives, it is like a man who says, "My food bill is about 60 percent of what my neighbor spends on his food. Now let me tell you that his family eats well and it costs him plenty. I do not buy meat or fruit and vegetables because these items are too expensive, however I take my family over to my neighbor's house each evening to join them in their dinner because they do have meat, fruit and vegetables. Why should I spend money I don't need to spend since I and my family can eat so very well at his house every evening?"
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Cauliflower and Potato Curry
- 4 medium sized potatoes
- 1/3 head of cauliflower, chopped into florets
- 2 tbsp oil
- 1 fresh green chili, chopped
- 1 tsp coriander
- 1 tsp cumin
- 1/2 tsp chili powder
- 1/2 tsp tumeric
- 1/2 tsp salt
- 1/4 cup of water
- 1 tomato, chopped
1. Peel potatoes and cube. Parboil them with the cauliflower for about 6-8 mins. Drain.
2. Heat oil in a wok, or large pan. Fry chili for 1 min, then add potatoes and cauliflower and fry for 5 mins.
3. Add spices, tomato, and water. Cook until veggies are tender (10 mins or so). Garnish with chopped cilantro if you have it.
Tandoori Tofu
I use a commercial tandoori masala spice mix for this one, but I suppose you could make your own. I take tofu that has been frozen and thawed, slice it into thick slabs, and marinate in the following:
- 1/2 cup of plain soymilk (you are really supposed to use yogurt, but the only soy yogurt I can find here is expensive and pretty nasty.)
- 2 tsbp oil
- 2 tsp tandoori masala (or more, if you like)
The thawed tofu will soak up the liquid. Then, grill on a vey hot and well oiled grill for 5 mins per side.
Friday, September 21, 2007
Indian Feast, Part 2
Cauliflower and Potato Curry
Posted by Vegan Dad at 7:51 PM
Labels: cauliflower, Indian, potato, tofu
3 comments:
- Lily Girl said...
I'm not sure if you check your older posts, but I wanted to let you know that I made this last night as part of an "Indian Feast" and really enjoyed it.
- May 7, 2008 at 10:51 PM
- Vegan Dad said...
I do check the older posts, and am always glad to see people enjoying these recipes. Maybe I should feature and "oldie but a goodie" every now and then.
- May 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM
- Jenny said...
I made this along with the stuffed potato cakes today. It was phenomenal. My omnivore husband loved it too. Great job!
- November 9, 2008 at 3:55 PM


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Among the board's concerns is that people who use marijuana in combination with alcohol could pose an extra danger on the roads if they drive.
It's already illegal under Washington's recreational marijuana law to use pot in public, and that includes restaurants, bars and clubs. But at least a couple of establishments have tried using loopholes to allow customers to use marijuana, such as by having "private clubs" within the businesses.
One is Frankie's Sports Bar and Grill in Olympia. Owner Frankie Schnarr says he'll fight the rule because it would hurt his business.
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Captain Ned wrote:I'm assuming you have no access to the understructure, right?
Any chance you can vampire some power off of that wall heater?
JustAnEngineer wrote:Running new telephone cord through the walls is just as easy as running new ethernet cables.
Airmantharp wrote:I'd be inclined to follow JAE's recommendation as the easiest/safest, but for the best connection you may consider running power in the opposite direction (through the wall) for a DSL Modem. DSL isn't great technology, I'd want to keep the extra lengths involved to a minimum.
Even better and harder, I'd cover that plug with a flat plate, and run a new shielded phone cable from the source to the other side of the wall or wherever you want it. Just don't put it in the attic, you're going to want direct access to thing .
Majiir Paktu wrote:Run it up the wall, across the ceiling and down the other side?
rcs2k4 wrote:I didn't think about using the heater's power source. It's hard wired, bit i'm sure you could split the cable down to power both the heater and a single socket (It's not like it's got to run anything to heavy, just a router!) ??
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The South Sumatra Museum consists of two smaller museums, Balaputera Dewa and Sriwijaya. This museum is more popularly known as Balaputera Dewa Museum.
Balaputera Dewa Museum is a public museum which stores and maintains historical and cultural objects. Balaputra Dewa is the name of a Sriwijaya king. This 23,565 square meter (5.8 acres) museum has 3,715 collections consisting 16 geological, 26 biological, 2,073 ethnographical, 87 archaeological, 37 historical, 456 numismatic, 29 philological, and 221 ceramologic collections; and 55 art objects, and 15 modern technological collections.
The Balaputera Dewa Museum also has collections of Limas and Ulu traditional houses, and statue wards. The Sriwijaya Museum is a special museum for historical objects of the Sriwijaya kingdom which lasted from the 7th to 13th centuries. It has 191 collections.
Both museums are only closed on Mondays and national public holidays. They are open from 08:00 to 15:30, except for Saturdays and Fridays, which are half days. The entrance fee to Balaputera Dewa Museum is Rp 500 (5 cents US) per child and Rp 1,500 (15 cents US) per adult. The entrance fee to the Sriwijaya Museum is only Rp 250 (2.5 cents US) per child and Rp 500 (5 cents US) per adult.
Since Palembang was the host city of a National Sports Event, it developed rapidly including its hotels making it easy to find rooms in the vicinity. Since the museum is located in the City Center, you can easily find star-rated, or ordinary hotels along Kapten A Rivai, Sudirman, R Sukamto, Veteran, and POM IX Streets.
This is is the right place for those who like art and cultural tours. Don't forget to ask for a free leaflet about the museum and local culture.
The South Sumatra Museum is a big building but you will find it easy to walk around.
This museum is located in Palembang city. To get to Palembang, you can take a flight to Sultan Mahmud Badaruddin II International Airport, which is located on Tanjung Api-Api Street, and accessible from many countries such as Malaysia, Singapore, China, and Thailand. The distance between the airport and the museum is about 3 km. You can take a taxi or rented car from the airport. The museum is located at Srijaya I No. 288 Km 5,5 Palembang.


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I took my car (2006 Honda Civic) to firestone to get an oil change and they told me I should get the fuel injectors cleaned. I was in an Advanced Discount Auto Parts store the other day and I noticed that you can buy a bottle of fuel injector cleaner that you can pour down your gas tank. Is this what firestone would do or would they do something that you can't buy at at store?
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The "correct" way to clean fuel injectors is to take them out and use some specialised equipment that also allows you to check the injector's spray pattern and flow, which I doubt Firestone will have - usually only FI specialists do have that sort of kit.
My guess is that they were trying to sell you some overpriced additive that you can buy at the store and pour into the tank. At a stretch the might have the sort of injector cleaner that you hook into the fuel system and run cleaner through that way. The latter is better, but still doesn't allow them to check if the clean was actually effective because the injectors stay where they are...
Did they actually say why they thought your injectors needed cleaning (apart from their bottom line, obviously)?
If you think they'd benefit from cleaning, I might be tempted to spend $10 on a bottle of Seafoam, Techron or other injector/fuel system cleaner and pour that into the tank. That'll still save you a lot of money compared to what Firestone would be asking to do more or less the same thing.
Also, in a lot of cases when people recommend that you clean the injectors, you're better off at checking/changing the fuel filter if that hasn't been changed recently. That's something that's overlooked often and tends to have more of an impact on fuel flow than deposits on the injectors.
I would advise against using any kind of additive or cleaner. Your best bet is to send it to a professional injector cleaning service.
When my car hit 100K miles, I sent the injectors to this place this place. Was fast and inexpensive though you have to live your car being down for about a week. He even gives you a comparison of how fuel flowed before and after.
They need to be taken out and cleaned. It's a relatively inexpensive job. Where I live, it costs halfway between a minor and major service for a small car. Best thing would be to ask them to do it the next time you have your car serviced to save on labour.


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A panoramic head has been on my want list for a while. Now I am going to be doing some commercial photography and I have to get one. I will mostly be shooting interior, but some exterior. My main body is a Nikon D3. I have a fisheye, and a 17-35mm that I will be using. I am debating if the 3 is enough. and should I go with one of the RDs. if so do I really need the RD16. And last question, one of the EZ-levelers? Thanks for any help. Mike
Hi Mictay, and welcome to the forum.
D3 is too heavy for NN3. As Nick told you, you should either go for NN4 or NN5. To be fully equipped for D3 and the future, I should go for a NN5. Cause it has slightly longer rails and another rotator. This might fit better for D3. It will offer you full range of lenses up to 70-200. I own a D3 with several lenses, NN3, 4, 5, Nadir Adapter and Ez-Leveller II. So I dare to say I know what I am talking about. If you think of using the bigger boys > 200mm, you should think of new M1-xx series.
But with your equipment right now, I should go for NN5 RD16, add a Nadir Adapter and for easy leveling an Ez-Leveller II. If you think of changing to M1-xx series in the future because of longer lenses, you can keep the RD16 rotator, the Ez-Leveller II and get an M1 without rotator. This is compatible. You then should add the M1 Nadir Adapter, which will be available later on.
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GXT 3-rc2 ComboBox: setForceSelection(false) does not work
If you setForceSelection(false), I would expect the typed text to remain in the combo box when you unfocus. Not the case. Also clears when you hit enter.
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probably related to the other bug I see with the label provider
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Thanks for the report. You're right - this doesn't match the description provided. I've filed a bug against the team and will update here with any progress.
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Any update on this. It was reported with a RC2, but I still see this behavior in 3.0.0b.
26 Jul 2012 12:20 PM #6
Hi ! Does this bug has been resolved ? I've searched for a workaround, but unfortunately I've found nothing...
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7 Sep 2012 7:40 AM #8
Is EXTGWT-1819 not related? Couldn't find the bug report.
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ComboBox, ClearValueOnParseError
I set to combo box following:
I do the same thing with date component.
I start application, enter invalid string to both component, result- first component is cleared, second is not cleared.
Is there any workaround to leave invalid value in combo?
11 Oct 2012 2:06 AM #10
Same problem
I set those two properties on my combobox because I need to accept arbitrary text but on blur the content text disapears.
Even with some EventHandlers like BlurHandler, onBlur or onBrowserEvent I can't get the typed value.


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Just wondering how I can put my idle computer time to some real use what services like seti@home are out there and worth supporting ?
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Wikipedia has an extensive list of distributed computing projects.
Install the BOINC platform. It's used to do data crunching for a wider variety of projects -- biology, physics, math, earth sciences.
I'd recommend using BOINC (as stated in other posts). Once installed, it sits in the background, waiting until the computer is idle.
But I would not recommend leaving your PC on just for the sake of running BOINC -- just let it fill out the natural gaps in your normal work routine, and when you're done for the day, put your PC to sleep or turn it off.
This way BOINC works during your small breaks, and that can add up too. And at the same time you're not spending energy to run your PC just for the sake of BOINC -- best of both sides, eh?
Another good host of grid projects is World Community Grid.
Putting it to sleep will assist with preventing global warming, which I consider something useful.
and more projects at the GridCafé
I'm using my idle computer for GIGRIB.
It is distributed website monitoring service. If you participate your bandwidth will be used to detect if websites are down and in turn you can have your own websites monitored.


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"It can reduce or even eliminate native grasses and it affects the quality and quantity of pasture available to our livestock herd," he said.
Sericea lespedeza is a perrennial that grows in pastures and along roadsides. It is mainly found in southeastern Nebraska and can be spread by wildlife and livestock.
Infested areas that are utilized for hay production accelerate the spread of the weed in new areas.
With the addition of sericea lespedeza, Nebraska has 12 noxious weeds. The list includes Canadian thistle, leafy spurge, musk thistle, plumeless thistle, purple loosestrife, spotted knapweed, diffuse knapweed, saltcedar, phragmites, Japanese knotweed and giant knotweed.
Otoe County officials are also dealing with an invasive vine that appears to be thriving in a small area along Steamboat Trace.
John Bebout of the Otoe County Roads Department reported in 2012 moderate to severe infestation of musk thistle on 305 acres and phragmites on 30 acres.
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With regard to drafting Tannehill. Jason Cole is confident Miami will draft Tannehill.
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With regard to drafting Tannehill. Jason Cole is confident Miami will draft Tannehill.
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The blurb about Moore and his time in Carolina is important to pay attention to. He's been handed the starting gig before after a strong performance the prior season in relief of the starter and it did not go well. Doesn't mean he'll necessarily flop again, but it's worth noting.
Of course, if he flops that bad again, he could end up helping to land us the #1 pick just like Carolina got after that season...
the sad thing is all the other draft people having him too. Tannyhill was one of the worst qb s in the big 12 if Henne and Sage couldnt succeed what makes people think Tannyhill will succeed his stata is bad in second half of games he as many ints as he does tds . i dont object to draftingTannyhill in rd 3 but no way is he a 1st rd qb.
what I want to know is why does south florida media kiss Tannyhill 's jock ?
drafting Floyd or trading up and taking Blackmon would be a bold move but that probally wont happen.
I love how the media says Flynn "dissed" us lol...and I think hes over reacting a little by saying theirs going to be riots if we don't get Tannehill.
I doubt we reach for Tannehill at 8. Not Ireland like at all to make such a risky 1st pick. Safer bet would picking BPA whether its Coples, Richardson, Blackmon, Claiborne. I think they try to trade down maybe with Dallas if they really want Poe.
Matt Moore is one of two things: He's either a QB who stands out when called to duty in an unpredictable moment (so to speak) or a a QB who thrives in a certain type of system. There are many QBs I feel like might have succeeded in the NFL if they were in the right system. He could be that type of QB. I find Matt Moore to be a bit of a tweener. He's a guy who's going to give you all he's got no matter what. But can't excel in just any offense. And I'm not sure how he'd do against a top notch defense. Much like Pennington - he's never shown much against a top tier defense. Pennington is a smarter QB, but Matt Moore has a better arm. But for whatever reason, they can't put there strengths up against a top defense.
"Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them -- a desire, a dream, a vision." - Muhammad Ali
We are not interestyed in Tanny .....much .I heard he has Tterminal progressive warts in his thowing hand which is a lifetime condition and can only get worse.Pass the word.
Jason Cole is a (fat) douche.
Floyd at 8 baby... Trade up with a third for weeden... Curry at 73... Successfully drafted
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Add Seattle to the mix...from Peter kings MMQB:
"You can write this down," says King. "If Tannehill were to be there at 12, Seattle would take him." Per King, teams around the league are well aware of the Seahawks' affinity for Tannehill, and a quarterback-needy club might be inclined to trade up to No. 11 to get in front of Seattle if Tannehill fell. "At Tannehill's workout," one source told King, "(Seahawks coach) Pete Carroll was giggling like a schoolgirl watching him throw. His attitude was like, 'What are we even doing here? He'll never be there for us."
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Say I have a Mycosynth Wellspring on the field and a Piston Sledge. The equip cost for piston sledge is "sacrifice an artifact". If I control no creatures, can I sacrifice the Mycosynth Wellspring to the Piston Sledge to benefit from its ability, or does the equip ability require a valid target in order to pay its cost?
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No you may not, you need a target to activate the equip ability. Equip means from the Comprehensive Rules
Activating an ability is very similar to casting a spell, and most of the same steps need to be followed to activate an ability. If you cannot comply with all the steps, then you have performed an illegal action, and the game backs up the game state to just before that illegal action.
This is the important step that you are incapable of complying with. You cannot announce a valid target for the equip activated ability.
BTW, if you did have a single creature that the Piston Sledge was already attached to, you could sacrifice an artifact to Equip the Piston Sledge to the already equipped creature. If the creature was an Artifact Creature, you could sacrifice the creature to pay the costs of the activation since costs are paid after targets are chosen.


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A local scientist admits to getting caught up in the trappings of spider sample collections.
Brian Patrick, assistant professor of biology at Dakota Wesleyan University, recently presented research about spider traps at the 19th International Congress of Arachnology at the Howard Beach Resort in Kenting, Taiwan. The conference hosted 231 participants from 42 countries, with 136 oral and 72 poster presentations June 23-28.
Patrick's presentation, "Comparing Ramp and Pitfall Traps for Capturing Wandering Spiders," was co-authored by Ashton Hansen, a master's student at North Dakota State University. The basis of the study came from an undergraduate research project conducted by Hansen during the summer of 2010 at DWU through the South Dakota-BRIN undergraduate research fellowship program. Hansen worked with Patrick that summer as an undergrad from Mount Marty College, Yankton.
"We compared a relatively new sampling technique – ramp traps – with a well-tested and standard sampling method known as pitfall traps," Patrick said. "Pitfall traps are essentially a cup in the ground which wandering insects and spiders on the ground walk into to be captured. Pitfall traps require excavating a small amount of soil, but this is not always pragmatic, particularly in rocky areas or areas where digging is not permitted, such as in national parks in the U.S. Ramp traps basically use a ramp going up to a small container and the insects and spiders walk up the ramp and fall into the container."
Both trapping styles involve liquid at the bottom of the trap, which captures and preserves the organism, allowing it to be used for research.
"These are extremely effective sampling methods," Patrick said about their simplicity. "Our research showed that the ramp traps were twice as effective for capturing wandering spiders, making this new sampling technique extremely appealing to researchers who would like to maximize their sampling of specimens and species."
These conferences allow researchers around the world to converge, share information and make invaluable connections. Patrick has been able to use these connections to further his own research, as well as create international learning opportunities for his students. A year ago, he partnered with the business department to take both business and biology students to the Czech Republic, Austria and Italy, with the biology students studying at Mendel University in Brno, Czech Republic, with Patrick's colleague Vlada Hula.
At this conference, he established a new connection with a researcher in Bern, Switzerland, with whom he will collaborate on a DNA barcoding project to barcode species of medical importance in South Dakota and throughout the world.
"We will focus on species like black widow spiders to develop a DNA 'barcode' that can be used to rapidly identify a potential specimen as a widow spider or another species," Patrick said about the pending research. "Moreover, the goal is to barcode all species found in South Dakota, and this new collaboration will facilitate this endeavor."
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The following are calls from the Ottawa County Central Dispatch for the city of Holland from July 8-9.
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12:09 p.m. 100 block of Glendale Avenue, larceny.
12:14 p.m. 500 block of Lake Drive, civilian complaint.
12:25 p.m. 400 block of West 17th Street, follow-up.
12:34 p.m. Pine Avenue/West Eighth Street, narcotics.
12:44 p.m. 600 block of West 21st Street, domestic.
1:56 p.m. West 40th Street/Washington Avenue, malicious destruction of property.
1:58 p.m. 900 block of Sagewood Court, miscellaneous crime.
2 p.m. West 32nd Street/Graafschap Road, traffic.
2:01 p.m. 500 block of Myrtle Avenue, well-being check.
2:42 p.m. River Avenue/West Third Street, non-injury crash.
3:05 p.m. 60 block of East Eighth Street, larceny.
3:34 p.m. 400 block of US-31, follow-up.
4:01 p.m. 40 block of I-196, non-injury crash.
4:05 p.m. 600 block of West 21st Street, disturbance.
4:40 p.m. 80 block of East 15th Street, larceny.
4:47 p.m. 100 block of West 28th Street, criminal sexual conduct.
5:01 p.m. Waverly Road/East 16th Street, motorist assistance.
5:02 p.m. 400 block of Pine Avenue, general public assistance.
5:07 p.m. East 16th Street/US-31, injury crash.
5:09 p.m. 500 block of West 23rd Street, follow-up.
5:10 p.m. 600 block of West 21st Street, follow-up.
5:12 p.m. 40 block of I-196, traffic.
5:15 p.m. 300 block of Fairbanks Avenue, miscellaneous crime.
6:28 p.m. East Eighth Street/Central Avenue, follow-up.
6:39 p.m. 600 block of West 21st Street, peace officer.
6:41 p.m. 400 block of West 21st Street, general public assistance.
6:48 p.m. 0 block of Haworth Center, suspicious incident.
7:01 p.m. 200 block of West 40th Street, loud music.
7:06 p.m. 400 block of East 32nd Street, suspicious incident.
7:42 p.m. 100 block of Waverly Road, general public assistance.
7:50 p.m. 300 block of East 24th Street, general public assistance.
8:47 p.m. 200 block of Skylark Court, suspicious incident.
9:13 p.m. Maple Avenue/West 15th Street, suspicious incident.
9:18 p.m. East 15th Street/Central Avenue, miscellaneous crime.
9:19 p.m. 800 block of Washington Avenue, miscellaneous crime.
9:39 p.m. Diekema Avenue/West 19th Street, miscellaneous crime.
10 p.m. 200 block of West 11th Street, animal complaint.
10:17 p.m. 90 block of Grandview Avenue, civilian complaint.
10:52 p.m. 40 block of West I-196, traffic.
11:28 p.m. 40 block of West I-196, motorist assistance.
11:33 p.m. 200 block of West 40th Street, loud music.
11:37 p.m. State Street/East 25th Street, traffic stop.
11:42 p.m. 700 block of Washington Avenue, miscellaneous crime.
11:47 p.m. 500 block of Lincoln Avenue, larceny.
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12:21 a.m. 300 block of Hope Avenue, suspicious incident.
12:22 a.m. 800 block of Productions Place, burglar alarm.
12:54 a.m. 500 block of Lincoln Avenue, follow-up.
1:26 a.m. West 10th Street/Pine Avenue, miscellaneous crime.
1:42 a.m. 100 block of West 16th Street, miscellaneous crime.
2:21 a.m. 400 block of US-31, suspicious incident.
8:09 a.m. 200 block of Calvin Avenue, assistance.
8:15 a.m. 600 block of Van Raalte Avenue, malicious destruction of property.
8:17 a.m. 1000 block of Abbey Court, follow-up.
8:27 a.m. West 18th Street/Maple Avenue, follow-up.
8:38 a.m. 700 block of Lincoln Avenue, larceny.
9:30 a.m. 200 block of West 14th Street, peace officer.
9:45 a.m. Washington Avenue/US-31, non-injury crash.
9:50 a.m. 600 block of West 21st Street, peace officer.
10:32 a.m. West 40th Street/Washington Avenue, well-being check.
10:46 a.m. 400 block of Stratford Way, fraud.
11:01 a.m. East 38th Street/Lincoln Avenue, larceny.
11:02 a.m. 10 block of West 17th Street, peace officer.
11:07 a.m. 400 block of Van Raalte Avenue, malicious destruction of property.
11:09 a.m. 100 block of Euna Vista Drive, animal complaint.
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Girls basketball: Watertown NVL favorite?
The NVL and scholastic sports scene lost a real friend Friday with the death of former Wilby athletic director George Tirado. At one point, Tirado coached the Wilby girls basketball team and guided the Wildcats to their last NVL title in 1981.
A class act all the way, Tirado could never do enough for you. His presence will be missed around the NVL. His kindness and commitment will leave a lasting legacy.
After all, the Indians are one bad half against Torrington away from being perfect. The way it is, 14-1 isn't too bad.
Watertown coach Ed Lopes isn't really ready, however, to take on the favorite's role.
"The NVL is so crazy this year," said Lopes. "I'd still be comfortable saying that four or five teams can win. We may be the favorite based on our record but it is up for grabs."
Where Watertown may have the edge is in balance and depth.
With Meg Perrin, Sara Selimovski, Abby Collier, Gabby Rinaldi and Jamie Zoldy, the Indians are solid across the board.
And with the likes of Becca Brieve and Danielle Lutkus coming off of the bench, the Indians see little to no letdown.
"We're a very deep team and if we get our starters to do what they can do, and our four or five off of the bench doing what they can to, we're very tough to beat," added Lopes. "It's between us and Torrington for having the deepest teams."
Thomaston and Gilbert played 4-on-4 in a JV game last week, the second time that has happened this season.
Thomaston and Litchfield did the same earlier in the season.
Also, a number of JV games have been cancelled. Thomaston has had JV games cancelled against Gilbert, Shepaug and Litchfield.
Litchfield has only about 10 players and Gilbert is around the same number.
"Playing 4-on-4 is better than not playing," offered Thomaston Athletic Director and assistant girls basketball coach Bill Ryan. "I think that in some cases that when people join a team that they don't understand about commitment."
Some interesting and big games coming up you might want to put on your calendar.
Berkshire League leader Thomaston hosts Lewis Mills on Friday with first place on the line. The Bears won the first matchup in a tight contest, 54-49.
Thomaston has one loss in the league while Mills and Nonnewaug have two.
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" whoa there, lets not be so fast to crown watertown as the best in the nvl. torrington is right up there also beating watertown easily in their matchip. go go lady raiders. "
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