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Hi, ive installed the game, done my profile,picked my team etc... But then when its time to click continue the game just closes itself :S
Whats going wrong?
Hi, ive installed the game, done my profile,picked my team etc... But then when its time to click continue the game just closes itself :S
Whats going wrong?
this is getting beyond a joke now it has to be said. Why couldn't they just do it like FM08 when u just bang the disk in and away you go? I keep getting error 10, and can't activate my keycode its a load of sh*t. People are saying i'm thinking of going to watchdog etc well why the hell not? Your paying for something your not getting
too rights what an utter joke Im still getting the facegen message I had to download a program and what a surprise IVE GOT THE LATEST GRPAHICS DRIVERS ALREADY.
Were just being fobbed off with this. Disgraceful.
I tend to agree with the Celt. I have tried everything they have asked and am still siting with a useless product.
You wouldn't buy a hi-fi and be expect to sit for three days online, in a chat room and discuss with all and sundry how to get the bloody thing working.
**** poor (that would be piesh poor ya hopeless rude word filter)
Aye well what a surprise no one here to help with enquiries one of the lads on the susie website has been great trying to help me since 8.30 without luck.
Load of utter ********
Hey Rees, any more on error -51?
Tried all this but no further ahead.
Error: You are receiving the Error [-51] / [-52] message
Fix: You need to delete the certificates and re-activate the game
1) On receiving the error, please uninstall the game
2) Please navigate to the following directory:
XP users: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2009 Certificate
Vista users: C:\Program Data\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2009 Certificate
3) Please ensure that it is the \certificate directory you are located in
4) Delete all content
5) Reboot the machine
6) Re-run the installation program and retry activation - ensuring you have 'verified' your key using the following website: http://keylookup.fm2009.softanchorinsight.com/
7) You should now be activated
Note: If the above does not fix it – please check the following:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data is not set to read only.
Also check that C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Sports Interactive and C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2009 Certificate are not set to read only!
To check if a file or folder is read only, please right click the folder and select 'Properties' from the dropdown, you should the see a box at the bottom called Attributes – please ensure this is unticked or does not have a green square inside.
Another way it could happen is if there is another instance of FM.exe or Activator.exe holding onto our certificate. In this case - the user should check the process list to see if another instance of FM.exe is open. If so - close it first.
To do this you need to open Task Manager (right click TaskBar, or CTRL+ALT+DEL), sort the Image Name column by clicking on it and identifying if Activator.exe or FM.exe are running. If they are highlight and click 'End Task'
all updates done on stream..so its ready 2 launch, but ive clicked launch but nothings happening.
can any1 help plz. been waiting all day 2 play and its problem after problem
You are receiving the error: FM2009 could not run as facegen was unable to initialize!
Fix: Please install the Patch, and ensure your graphics drivers are up to date
Well Ive checked my drivers and Ive got the latest version, so basically theres absolutely nothing I can do to run the game then????
YES! Fixed the "no connection" thing!!
My problem the last 3 days was my firewall... thought I had tuned it of, but after playing with it I found out how to disconnect it correct. I have Comodo firewall if anyone has the same problem...
Thanks for all your support over the last 3 days!
When i go to play a match, the window minimises and i get the message 'DirectSound Error: -2004287480' and then football manager just closes itself. I have tried restarting my computer but the same happens over again. Any help please?
hi i installed fm09 on unilok as it would not install on steam.
first time round it finished installing and came up installation complete but there are errors or something like that. anyway started the game up fine, everything was working until i came to my first match, the game then froze when i clicked submit team. so i tried to restart it but could not, the disc would come up in my disk drive but would not run. eventually i figured out how to uninstall the game then i reinstalled it.
it came up with installation complete but with errors again, however this time it will not run.
can some please help with this problem?
i am on windows vista aswell and have not installed the patch as i cant for some reason
hi, my game freezes and becomes unresponsive when i try and play a match or click on a result to see match info, the demo worked fine on my comp and i didnt have any trouble with it at all, i'm not able to put it in windowed mode for sum reason, and i am currently on the lowest resolution
I was playing the game (slowly) via steam, I have changed it to play in windows but when I load I get "fm.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." The data error signature is "AppName: fm.exe AppVer 126.96.36.199064 ModName: fm.exe ModVer:126.96.36.199064 Offset 00fdc281" Does that mean I have error 281, if so I'll do all it states on P1, if not can you PM what I have to do now please?
Thanks in advance (hitting the sack now)
are you just ignoring me on purpose.
Directsounderror every time i do a match. Please help.the previous solutions did not work.
the games been working fine since the first night it was out but before it shut off while iw as playing on it and an error thing came up, but i just clicked ok without looking at it so i dont know what it was - stupid i know - and now when i click to go on the game the SoftAnchor activation screen comes up and when i put the code in it says "we were unable to process you unlock request"
urgent help needed please!
i'm sure it was an accident but the last time i posted this it was ignored so please reply to this one!
any ideas for a solution for the problem i am having?
I am trying to find out if my computer's graphics card is good enough.
I have typed "dxdiag" into the run function, and gone into the display bit, and it says:
Name: SiS
Chip Type: Sis 661FX Rev 01
DAC Type: Internal
Approx Memory: 64MB
Am I doing this right? Is my card good enough to run FM09? And can I release memory by deleting old stuff? Basically can I run FM09 on this PC or do I have to buy a new one?
I would suggest sitting tight just for now and waiting for us to look into it rather than splashing out on a new computer right away. If that ends up being your only solution then we will say so, but we're hopeful we can get as many people going as possible.
If we do find some solutions, we won't know what performance will be like until we've got it up and running too... but each person is different in terms of what they're happy to accept with performance (i.e. the game may run slowly).
The game is running ridiculously slow for me and many other people have said the exact same.
Football manager 08 ran very well but this it sometimes needs about 5 clicks 2 respond. Dragging players into position on the tactics screen it stops and starts. "Glitches"
I have got a very quick Computer as i bought plenty of RAM last year. I have tried many things to Speed the game up but nothing is happening.
I Cannot believe this game has been released with soo many Problems
Regarding having to have it on windows mode to stop it freezing, well i dont like it on windowed mode, are you looking into this? thanks
I have done what was said at the start of this thread with the activate.vbs file and it dosnt recognise my key. Keychecker dosnt even recognise my key. Help please.
not trying to sound impatient but is there anything you could tell about the problems i am having? it would be much appreciated
My mate and I want to play an online game but after following the instructions we both get the same "cannot find server" message. I think it has something to do with the port forwarding but that is a mystery to us both. Please can someone explain to me what I need to do in its most simple terms
Even the keychecker site is down! iv tried the `o` from `0` and vice versa but nowt. I bought this game at 10am friday morning, i still cant get it to work ,and iv tired the keychecker site so many times but the same old answer it did not recognise my key.
[QUOTE=Neil Dejyothin;2060746]For now the easy workaround is to disable sounds from the Preferences screen in game. You should look to update your sound card drivers though.
that doesnt work so when will a solution be available
This may sound like a stupid question, but i bought the game through steam, do i still have to activate it? Because when i go to activate it, it says it's an invalid key. However the game is running.
Has anything been discovered regarding the phone activation problem where you get through the activation succesfully then try to play the game and it asks you to activate agian??
Thanks for the quick response, whos Vac? lol
some one talk to me please
the reason i'm asking is cos if i can't activate through steam will it still update automatically?
i installed fm09 on unilok as it would not install on steam.
first time round it finished installing and came up installation complete but there are errors or something like that. anyway started the game up fine, everything was working until i came to my first match, the game then froze when i clicked submit team. so i tried to restart it but could not, the disc would come up in my disk drive but would not run. eventually i figured out how to uninstall the game then i reinstalled it.
it came up with installation complete but with errors again, however this time it will not run.
can some please help with this problem?
thats my problem, i dont know why i couldnt download the patch
This may sound like a stupid question, but i bought the game through steam, do i still have to activate it? Because when i go to activate it, it says it's an invalid key. However the game is running.the reason i'm asking is cos if i can't activate through steam will it still update automatically?
And if it has been activated would it say it's invalid?
[QUOTE=max123455;2061435][QUOTE=Neil Dejyothin;2061391]
i have downloaded and it and it still doesnt work, when will a solutin be available
i still have problem "00e5dbce" the game is crashing . i downloaded and installed net. framework. your game launch was very very poor
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im still getting the " no internect connection " bullcrap when i try and enter the activation code... and when i try to enter it via that program that you've set up all i get is an error box.
can't you just switch of this activation code? or put out a batch without it? it seems such a silly thing to have done, when right now people who have a pirate copy will probs be playing it? major letdown.
This error just means that you already have .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 installed, so installing the earlier .NET Framework 2.0 (non-SP1) it tells you that your .NET 2.0 is already newer than what you are trying to install.Originally Posted by Scunny Brett
If you can't see a 'Security' tab in the file 'Properties' dialog you must be running Home or Home Premium. Can you try to boot into safe mode and try to patch from there to see if it works? You shouldn't need to, many users are using Home Edition and can patch just fine, but there may be some security setting on your system that causes this access error.Originally Posted by Scunny Brett
Last edited by Boah; 17-11-2008 at 01:15.
The number in this message will help us understand the problem. For example, In this case the number -1003 indicates that your license key. If the error is -1003 enter your license key into the form at: http://keycheck.fm2009.softanchorinsight.com
If it is something besides -1003, please send Muzchap or JMordetsky a PM and they will do their best to help!
What it dosnt say is what to do if your problem is Error 1003 and you have tried the keychecker and if that fails then what? becouse that has happend to me.
I have the digital download version from steam and was getting error -51. tried phone but just crashed after entering 3rd auth code. Now tried online and got error -1007?
Hey guys. My mate (who is having problems with Sega Pass verification e-mail) - has asked me to ask if you could help him. He FINALLY got the game working, but for some reason, he has no FM09 Files. So and DDT files, skins, DB's etc etc. Any idea what happened, or how he gets his folders back? Thanks.
I have just this minute got mine workin, or at least the keycode been accepted through steam though ffs acepted at last mind. Now i actuely know the keycode do you think i should reinstall it without goin through steam? or would that risk messing it up totally? i feel for the people who aint got theres working i bought mine at 10am friday morning! good luck and il try and help as much as i can.
Ok were are monday, I hope the patch for Mac will arrive soon ...
Hi, regarding the no connection problem, have tried using the activate vbs download and all i get after entering my (checked correct) code is a windows script host error ,
Error: system cannot find file specified
Code : 80070002
Source: (null)
so er in plain english please, whats next?
ps have installed patch, already done the certificate removal/reboot thing etc. am using uniloc not steam that was a nightmare!!!
just spotted msg 1366, looks like my prob too, if so , who is support and whats the number, fingers crossed its a free one!
Last edited by spads; 17-11-2008 at 08:04. Reason: just spotted a message similar to mine
I started a game with porto, did pre season friendlies, saved the game. Now when i try to proceed to next match, it freezes and i get FM2009 isnt responding. Any reasons?
I still have that problem with the game freezing when I click submit team, but now it's also happening when I go to fixtures, and click on one of the past results ... I installed that SDK, but either I don't know how to use, or it's just not working ... I don't have enough pacience to read 14 pages here, and to try to find the answer ...who can help me ? please, I'm playing the manager sincer it was named CM, and I wouldn't really like to quit it now just because of a stupid bug / error.
i have a macbook processor 2GHz Intel core 2 duo memory 1GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
version 10.5.5 on OS X with macintosh HD, everything works fine until i try and start a match with the 3D engine. This then freezes my computer and i cant do anything. How can i stop this/ is there a mac patch coming out. ??
Right now problem is pretty strange and I had fixed it and now Ive broken it again!!
I was able to launch the game play fine, I wanted to play in Windowed mode so Id change it to that and it launched fine the second and third time! However time four Id get fm.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close, used a fix I found early on saying -- reset_preferences which was fine and I could then launch and change back to windowed. However this became slightly annoying so I tried the work round were you add - small_screen_windowed (or similar) and now even reset preferences wont change this back! Ive tried reinstalling but its still stuck in windowed and wont launch!
Can anyone advise me if there are hidden files I need to remove or a particular registry key that tells the game how to launch that needs to be manually removed afterwards to resolve this issue so I can play?
My other options are buy a new laptop or take a day off work to completly re-build my exsisting one! (My 500gb external drive makes this slightly easier!!)
Please Help-
Everytime I'm playing a matchday and I click on TACTICS to make any changes a error pops-up
A seroius error was encountered
and the application will close
I havn't managed to get through a single match yet.
BTW, I have the latest patch and have next gen system spec, so nothing wrong with system being able to play game.
Last edited by tigerfist29; 17-11-2008 at 09:57.
im still looking for the explanation and apology, have searched this site but to no avail can someone point me in the right direction?
scuse me for my english.
i can't start fm2009.
i install with steam but nothing appens.
i try with uniloc but at the end i read that there are some errors in the installation.
i see the register and find one error; this error: Operazione personalizzata:com.sigames.InstallAnywhere.Windows GameExplorer
Stato: ERRORE
Note aggiuntive:ERRORE - class com.sigames.InstallAnywhere.WindowsGameExplorer NonfatalInstallException RegisterWithGameExplorer() failed: Failed to add game to Game Explorer
if i try to start the game nothing appens.
if i do a right click with mouse and "do as amministration" (i have vista) open a windows for put the key and i do this. i tell me "wait... autentication".... but nothing appens.
scuse me for english i'm desperate
Well I bought the game and tried to play it but got the error "Fm2009 could not run as facegen was unable to initialize". I then downloaded the patch and it said something about the graphics. Well I then tried to download Directx SDR but when I tried to download it on my computer through my USB (as I don't have the internet at home) it wouldn't load onto it as it looked like it was something to do with the Framework 2.0. Now when I try to open the game up nothing happens and I get no warning. I have tried uninstalling the game and patch and reinstalling but the same happens and nothing happens. Please help!!
When I load the game it asks for the activation key, if i enter it in block capitals the error message comes up saying that the code is already active. If I get it checked by the key lookup and copy and paste it from there then it says the code has been accepted but when I relaunch the game it asks for the code again and the process is repeated... please help
Are there any updates regarding activation key problems? I'm still getting Error 821 please purchase new code eventhough I have activated the game and played it.
Thanks for the effort
Again i get the same as above ive p.m neilo with email adress, and no response!!! Iv asked for help for times this is beyonde a joke am i going to have to come to your office to get noticed as this has been for days and im realy ****ed off now!! Why dont you just do all your loyal fans a favor and turn off the stupid activation thing!! Please reply toour problems!!! Asap!!!!!
I couldn't find a response to this so it thought i'd post it again.
I've started a new game and its running fine but I don't want to get to the end of the first season and have the same problem again, it took me 20 hours to finish the first season. Could it that the save is corrupt or is there a problem when you get to a certain point in the game?
Please help could you post a sega number, or sports interactive or softancor or steam i need real help !!!!!!!!! As i think im being egnord
After reading the other posts about the same error that i'm facing (black screen with flickering L in bottom corner), is there any chance that I can be emailed/pm'd once a solution has been found? I recognise that it'll take a while to test the SIS chipset, and find a solution, but if i could be remembered, and informed, it would be great.
I have a problem with Editor.
When I try to open it, I get he message:
Could not open. The side-by-side configuration is not correct.
I was playing FM09 at the weekend and thought it was great, but when i went to play it this morning nothing loads! So i uninstalled it and went to reinstall - nothing happens after the autorun screen appears? I have also looked for any files on my pc, but nothing appears! Please reply as soon as possible. I am using windows vista to play game. Thanks
Hello all...
We have an user that have this problem:
He has problems with the installation of the game. He received this error in the installation register:
ERRORE - class com.sigames.InstallAnywhere.WindowsGameExplorer NonfatalInstallException AddGameExplorerTasks() failed: Failed to retrieve GUID for application"
Do you know something about this?? Thanks...
VISIT : http://www.fmlive.it and european football manager league : http://www.footballmanagerleague.com
Is any one there?? please answer my questions surley us unfortunate people who cannot even get the game to load deserve some help
How's the mac patch work going? Still on for release today?
I have downloaded the activator and moved it via memory stick to another computer that I want to play FM on. This computer does not have an internet connection and I am receiving error -10.
Is it possible for this to work without an internet connection?
Can anyone help me please? My DVD drive will not read the FM09 DVD. I'm proper gutted and don't know what to do. I've looked for a DVD drive driver update but i can't find one anywhere? I'm really gutted. My DVD drive is: optiarc dvd rw ad-7530A device. And it runs on vista. Can anybody help me please???
Hi. I am not the most computer literate so please bear with me!
I installed the game on Friday evening ( PC box game on my laptop) which took about an hour to install.
At the end it told me installation was complete but with some errors. (didn't name what the errors were). Anyway the game opened itself to the main menu but before I began a new game I decided to install the patch first.
I got to install the patch to 99% and then it said I didn't have a relevant digital certificate so I installed the Digital DX thing that was recommended to install.
When I put the disc back in again it didn't load automatically and wasn't there as a shortcut on my desktop either. Tried to find the folder to load it from there but the folder was completely empty. Also tried going to "my computer" then "DVD drive" which clearly showed that FM 2009 was in it and right clicked and pressed "autorun or install disk".
Nothing happened?
Please could somebody help or is it a case of me bringing it back to the shop?
I had the some problems on Vista. Downloaded game and activated it. Then there was no desktop icon. Went into the DVD drive and click fm2009.exe and nothing happened. I reinserted disk and tried to run and nothing happened.
I searched for FM2009 in search and found nothing. But when I went in "games" section of my PC I found the ICON and it launched.
Hope this helps
cant play 1st match as it freezes have update graphics card have installed dx sdk have patch 1 on, runing out of things to try, have also uninstalled and re-installed, also on vista, graphics card is niv, 8800 gts, 4gs of mem, intel quard proc... Any help please guys, this is getting very silly.... seems to be lots of people very similar problems......
Thanks Jason,
I'm nearly sure I tried this but I think it was empty. I can see the icon on my start menu but nothing happens when click on it.
My friend has the game aswell but hasn't installed it yet.
Would there be any point in me swapping my game for his and seeing if his loads onto mine and vise versa? (or is there a limit on amount of PC's you load it onto?)
I'm suffering from the freezing of the match engine.
I have a good enough machine and have it on commentary only but it really lags when I want to make subs or tactical changes. It also lags coming back from those changes before the match gets up and running again.
It is really hindering my enjoyment of what looks like a belter of a game. Any tips/ hints to help me along?
Does the windows mode really work? Anyone had any joy?
I Have the game loaded on to my MAC, but I am gutted that it is really unplayable at all. I can't move the positions of the players in the tactics screen manually and the right click function just messes up the game even more. Once you have right clicked you can't click on anything else, until you move the pointer (which turns in to the shirt you have tried to select) over to the bottom left hand corner (weird!!!!). once you have the arrow back it will drop down the menu's but not let you select anything in them so you can't even quit.
I have read throught loads of these posts. But there doesn't seem to be any real reply to the MAC posts. When is the patch coming out and were can I get it when it does.
I have check the install log and everything said successful. On clicking on the short cut i get a "fm.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. we have created a error report bah bah". But no error code
i have followed the .NET framework advise but this has not helped.
This also happened with the demo.
Hi, I'm Lorenzo, I'm italian and I apologise for my english.
I bought the game 2 days ago and I can't install the game yet.
I have always the -10 error. This is incredible, I bought the game and I can't play.
I've sent an email to Marc but he didn't write me back.
I don't know what to do.
I'm on Vista, I tried to disactivate my firewall, but it is useless.
I've no anti-virus programme so I can't explain where is the problem.
50€ for a game and I can't play, simply amazing.


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Before posting a new RP, Read This First! - 08-07-2007, 06:33 AM
1. All New RPs Must Abide By The Rules. They can be found here: Rules And FAQ. This means that a new RP posted must abide by the following criteria:
1. Before you start an RP, you MUST make sure that you have at least one person to play with.
2. Don't ever copy someone else's RP.
3. Always have a recognisable plot and at least one paragraph for an intro.
4. Don't start a new RP for every new character; introduce that character into an existing RP!
Any new RPs that break even one of these rules will be locked.
2. Only one RP per person, per week can be posted. This is to stop the forum being flooded with an influx of identical RPs like last time.
3. Category rule has been revoked. Since there aren't as many RPers on the forum now as there were before, I have revoked the rule about categories. However, if I see an influx of RPs with identical plots again, I will be forced to reapply this rule.
4. If you post an RP, do NOT start playing til I have approved it. Due to the fact that some people are having trouble understanding this, I am adding it to the rules topic. If you post a new RP, then people can join it, but no-one can post on it til I have approved it. Don't think that just cuz your rulebreaking RP reaches over three pages that it will be allowed to stay; it won't.
Notes On Characters.
OK, this is something that obviously needs to be done now, as some people don't seem to get how to make an RP character. Here is the checklist of what we will be covering in this section:
1. Name, rank, and number.
2. Context, background and other important things.
3. Mary Sue and other character atrocities.
Name, Rank And Number.
Let's take a look at the first item on the list; Name, rank, and number. A lot of RPs will expect you to fill out a character form which usually looks something like this:
Let's break this down bit by bit. Now, the name might be a problem for some people; I know I find it a pain to try and think up a name to fit a character. That's why I tend to look round baby name sites for names. Also, book character names are a good bet. As for surnames, pick out either baby names that could suit a surname, or take surnames off TV characters and the like. Make the name sound realistic, like a name that could appear in real life. Even long winded real life names generally are chosen for a reason, for example, naming the child after several relatives. They rarely are given names that pertain to physical appearence, due to the fact that all babies look pretty much alike when given names. So none of that, or you'll be heading into dangerous, Mary Sue infested waters.
Age; shouldn't be a problem. Just look at the RP; is it a teenage one? Or are there lots of different ages? Even if there are, please make the character realistic as per his or her age group. For example, an eight year old is not going to go around with a group of sixteen year olds. Even an eight year old prodigy isn't; most teens will refuse to have a little kid tagging along with them. Even the most profound, mature, intelligent eight year old is never going to be on the same wavelength as a bunch of teens. So scrap the idea right now and make your character around the same age as the others.
Race and appearance are easy; if the RP allows other races besides human, then pick one... and stick to it. Even if you slightly alter the characteristics in some way, you can't make it all good. There has to be some bad points involved. Everyone has faults; and your character must have some, too; these are things like laziness, greed, spite and selfishness. As for appearence; we'll cover the goods and bads of that later, when we *gulp* meet Mary Sue.
For your bio, be brief. Don't go into vastly detail about what happened to your character, that can be brought out later in the RP. Just put down a few key points, and leave it. No excruciating detail, please. That too is a Sueish characteristic.
Context, Background And Other Important Things.
We will assume that the person starting the RP is a regular RPer, with common sense and intelligence.
First, they will give a potted history of the RP, giving out some basic information about the RP like what time it's set in, where it's set, and the situation the players will be RPing. Then, there's some information about context. Then will be a character description and form for the other players to fill in, but not always; some RPers prefer for you to describe your character in your opening paragraph. Finally, will come the opening paragraph the RP owner writes to start the whole shebang off.
Context. Remember me saying that in the paragraph above? Well, here's the meaning of context:
The context is the issues and trends that surround the time that the RP is set in, ie an RP set in the flapper period would reflect many issues and trends from its context of the 1920s.
So, if the RP is a spaceage one, yes you can use warpspeed or travel to distant planets. However, doing either in the aforementioned 1920s RP would be grossly out of context and therefore disrupting the RP for the players who are playing it properly.
Also, if rules are laid down, then please follow them. They are at the owner's discretion as to how far in either direction you can go, but if they say you are breaking a rule with your character, then you withdraw or modify your character. Don't like it? Then get out, and start your own RP. Make sure you read this section very carefully. This is very important, as an out of context character can, and will, kill an RP dead. Particularly if the character is also a Mary Sue.
The same goes for background. Make sure the character's background fits in with the RP. If the RP consists of normal high school kids, do not have a character who's the daughter of a Prince. That is unrealistic, and Sueish. Make your character ordinary; that's not boring, except in the hands of a boring person. The other things you need to remember are not to whine if your character is disliked by other characters; that is normal. No-one is liked by everyone; also have your character dislike someone. Also, if the RP owner has put down conditions that have to be met, or orders in the RP, then follow them. Sometimes the owner will insist on all posts to be at least a full paragraph; for only experienced RPers; for a particular plot detail to be decided by him/her only. Do not just steam ahead and break these rules, or you will be kicked out. If you don't like the conditions, then don't join. Simple as that.
Mary Sue and other character atrocities.
Before we move on to Mary Sue, first let me list a few more character atrocities.
1. A thin character. No, that does not mean a skinny character, just one that has no detail whatsoever. For example, just name, age and a power description. A character bio must contain a personality description, listing both good and bad points.
2. A character with just a picture as a description. If you use a picture as an appearence reference, then that's fine; just remember that you must also include a paragraph on personality. I cannot stress this enough.
3. A character that doesn't interact. There is no point whatsoever in joining an RP if you're just going to go your own sweet way and not interact with the other players.
Finally, we get on to Mary Sue. If you are unsure about whether your character is a Mary Sue or not, then PM me your character form and I will tell you. The main characteristics of a Mary Sue are listed below:
1. Pointlessly flowery description. For example; "Her hair was golden like the sun shining on ripening wheat." Completely unnecessary.
2. Perfect in every way. Only Mary Poppins is "practically perfect in every way." Anyone else who has no faults is a Mary Sue. Faults are things like bad temper, laziness, greed, clumsiness. NOT "she was so beautiful all the girls were jealous." X_x Also, do not list a character's strengths as "everything." They must have power or school weaknesses, cuz everyone does.
3. Being the girlf of a canon character. This applies to RPs that are based on TV, anime, or books. Just don't. If in the canon two characters are boyf and girlf, you stick to that. You can play the girlf, but don't change her character to fit your own. Which leads us on to...
4. Makes canon characters behave out of character. Don't do this. If you can't do this, then make an original RP instead.
5. Constantly bangs on about her tragic past. No-one's saying you can't have a character with past tragedy, just don't have them constantly bring it up, unless it pertains to the RP. Also, your character can not be the focus of the RP, or be the main character.
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Sorry, I don't know if this is the right place to post this but; I really want to get more into roleplaying, but all the roleplays that are frequently posted on here are to long and the 'newbie' RPs which I am involved in are very slow moving. I would like to start my own but I don't really have any ideas. Does anyone have any ideas for topics ect. If you don't mind of course. I don't want to lumber you with the stupid Rp noob xD
There is a theory which states that if ever
anybody discovers exactly what the Universe
is for and why it is here, it will instantly
disappear and be replaced by something
even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
- Douglas Adams
Read the RP categories thread first so that you don't inadvertantly post an RP in a full category. You should also read the other stickies, as I have tips on RP starting in them. Finally, you need to make sure you have at least one other person to RP with. Other people may join after you start it, but you need to have at least one person at the beginning.
Your best bet is to pick something you're interested, then go on from there. You're interested in Dr Who and Torchwood; you could try doing an RP based on either of them. Just make sure that you describe each show's characters and plot well, so that anyone who doesn't watch it can still RP. For an example of this, read this RP's first page: Condemned: Sonic Destruction I've never played that game in my life; however, due to Wolfie's excellent description, that didn't matter.
You should also post a plot paragraph at least as long as hers, giving any players something to start from; and also make your preliminary paragraph as long as hers. Don't just post a few sentences; that's what a lot of people do and it's a bad idea, as your post is the first post and the one that all players have to start from. If your RP is based on a TV show or movie, you will also have to pay attention to canon; ie make sure that no-one either plays a canon character out of character, or does something that doesn't exist in the show. For example, in a Dr Who RP, making someone be more powerful than the Doctor.
If you picked something on those shows, that would be Sci-fi; you'd have to PM me your first post so I could see if it would work before I opened up a new category.
Thankyou very much.
I will tell you if I'm thinking about starting a new roleplay.
There is a theory which states that if ever
anybody discovers exactly what the Universe
is for and why it is here, it will instantly
disappear and be replaced by something
even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
- Douglas Adams
What's so hard to understand? It's just telling you what to do and what not to do. You have to have a good opening paragraph (or more, which is preferred), a thoroughly explained plot, maybe a set of rules for your RP, etc. And you can't copy somebody else's RP; that will get you into serious trouble. There's also categories for the different RPs; max for RP category is 3 each, so check the RPG Category thread.
I stare at the girl in the mirror: T-shirt, torn up jeans, no beauty queen.
But the way that you see me, you get underneath me, and all my defenses just fall away, fall away.
I am beautiful with you, even in the darkest part of me. I am beautiful with you;
Make it feel the way it's supposed to be!
Next time you are confused, specify what you are having problems understanding. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand about this, but you can't get help when you don't tell us your problem.
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Don't get it - 02-13-2012, 07:13 PM
So I've RPed a ton before, like a ton a ton, for at least 4 years and at least over a thousand RP's (not joking). So it's safe to say that I know a few things about RPing. However I can't say I've seen any rules quite like this before. The fact that you have categories and only 3 rps can be in each, is odd. Plus to me the categories don't exactly make sense. Are they genres such as action, romance or what not, or what? Many categories or genres can have thousands of different plots. So why limit?
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I have accidently removed the stub from the 'Physios' page, while adding more.
I will add the physio guide tomorrow or on sunday.
Could someone please re-add it?
PS - How do you add the stub tags?
I have accidently removed the stub from the 'Physios' page, while adding more.
I will add the physio guide tomorrow or on sunday.
Could someone please re-add it?
PS - How do you add the stub tags?
Put that at the start of the artcle.
Rob, what would Y stand for? I didn't fill that one in.
Nationality I think. Also done pages for Steve Schumacher, Joel Grant, James Bailey,Byron Moore, Kenny Lunt, Danny Shelley (although very brief), Eugen Bopp, Danny O'Donnell, Michael O'Connor, Anthony Elding (his club stats table took a long time) and Calvin Zola. Time for a rest me thinks.
Last edited by ssestig; 04-04-2009 at 00:49.
Pages on installing graphics & making the game run faster have been added. Let me know if I left anything out.
I've just come across this thread now, good work everyone
I could help out with some articles when I have time, anything specific that you want doing, or shall I just dive in?
You will have to register first though, non members arent allowed to member thanks to spammers.
Welcome to the thread
Originally Posted by Alan
Just added to the Real Madrid page, is this the sort of thing we're looking for in an introduction? http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk...le=Real_Madrid
Just as a reminder to everyone - don't forget to remove the stub tag whenever you feel enough information has been added to a particular page.
Just managed to stumble upon this.
I've made an Singapore League thread for the Good Player forum. I hope it's suitable.
The S-League Thread
If you want your Singapore guide on a separate page, I've no problem with that either.
Not a problem.
I presume his dates back a couple of years ago, because there have been some changes since then.
Liaoning Guangyuan is no more, of course.
There is no relegation from the S-League, unlike what he said.
And the Singapore Cup lasts all season long, instead of from April to June. The last one (2008) started in May and the final was in November.
Teams are now allowed to register 6 foreign players, but name only 4 in the match squad.
I should also add in a couple of things not in my original thread, but will be useful in the Wiki. These are fairly recent additions by the way.
Charity Shield
As you'd have guess, a pre-season curtain raiser between the League and Cup winners (or League runners-up if the double was achieved).
Singapore League Cup
A mid-season tournament played between all 12 League Clubs, usually lasting a month (May-June). The top 4 in the league the previous season gets a bye into the second round, while the rest play a one-off knockout first round. After that the format is similar to the Singapore Cup (two-legged knockout rounds) until the one-off final match. There is also a third place playoff (also present in the Singapore Cup).
Hope that has been helpful.
Cheers Ben. Are you happy with the layout of the article now?
Instead of having empty pages cramp up the current category pages, how about we open a category for blank pages? Obviously we would re-categorise them again as soon as they have some content.
Maybe a notice on blank pages should be put up in the 'Why we have set this up' bit.
That is pretty excellent , although (sorry, being picky here) the opening seems to contradict a little with the first paragraph of the S-League.
I would probably put the opening as such:
The S-League was formed in 1996, as Singapore's very own football league. Prior to this, football in Singapore consisted of the national team competing in the Malaysian Cup. After winning the trophy in 1994, a decision was made to withdraw from the tournament, which came as a shock to Singaporeans, ending a 75-year association with the tournament.
However, the S-League has moved leaps and bounds since then, and has become one of the top 10 leagues in Asia, according to the AFC (Asian Football Confederation). From 8 teams in 1996, it has since expanded to 12 teams, and has also attracted some foreign clubs to establish feeder teams in the league to increase its competitiveness.
The FA of Singapore have taken the unusual step of including a team of their own in the competition, Young Lions being made up of the vast majority of the nation's under-23 international side, although foreigners who are eligible to become Singaporean nationals are also allowed
The 12 teams all offer varying challenges, but it is a very promising league, and to be fair, with the right moves, anyone is capable of anything.
Then the start of the topic S-League would be "The S-League is made up of twelve clubs....etc"
Other than that, it's mostly good.
Wait, do you mean the bit above the index or the bit under the S-League header?
About time too
I think that it is a good idea but where would we put a link to this category, as I don't think that it should go on the top row.
Because people using the wiki are not going to click on a category of blank pages.
I sugeest placing it at the bottom of the first page and as long, as we know where it is then it will be alright as we can then, use it.
Every article IMO should be placed in one of these kind on holding places till one of us sees it and approves it (sees it as an appropriate good standard) and, then we could move it to the correct area. It would probably improve the standard of the articles.
The wiki forum has been deleted, with all threads lost due to the software being upgraded at boardzero. I'm in the process of making a new one, and will yet you know once it's done.
Ok, that is bad news,
They could have at least warned us, so we could have got all the threads off it.
You know that you deleted the part saying 'For Vista:'.
That is kind of necessary because I am going to do an XP one as they are different.
The forum is back up.
It is working for me.
I have sent you a link in a PM.
ill see what i can do, its a good idea and will be useful
The (old) forum is working for me:confused:
Incase anyone starts missing me (hopeful thinking), I am off to Devon for 5 days and am leaving in 29 minutes. I will try and find some hotspots so I can post a bit. See you all
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Well, he has gone now.
So, Alan you can take the role for 5 days
I am going to be working on the stadiums article page and the stadiums articles over the next few days.
I have just done a few more stadium articles and will finish all the Championship articles tonight and then, put them up.
Alan (or anyone else), can you help me with something?
I can't change the layout of the Stadiums page
It only has one line with the title and the link to the General stadiums page when I click on 'edit'.
I want to try something different with it as we are getting quite a lot of stadium articles and it is starting to look messy.
Plus, when creating a new article, I realized that we have two categorys for Stadiums - named 'Stadia(linked from the front page) and one called 'Stadiums' (have to do something different to get to)
Any help would be appreciated.
I guess we could have it without it being a category if JJay can't do anything.
As then, we could just link them off the Stadiums page.
Make a new page called 'Stadia', add the links and I'll sort the rest out
Ok cheers.
I think that it will be a lot neater like that, than a long list of stadiums.
I have added about 5 more stadiums.
EDIT: I can't make a new page called 'Stadia' because there is already the stadia page which talks about stadiums. Should I call it 'Stadiums' instead?
I have gone ahead and called it Stadiums instead.
I have done a couple of the links so far.
Will finish them off tomorrow.
Rob - I must say that I really like the lines you put in to divide players from different positions. KUTGW
All blank pages have been moved to a new category.
Great websites!
You got an example of the lines to seperate players?
And Alan, 5000 posts
EDIT: Thanks tottenhamfm07
Fulham page is an example.
Never noticed I hit 5,000 there tbh
Cheers tottenhamfmo7
Did any of you know how the World Cup Group Stages are ordered?
France just finished higher than Tunisia because of this, seems really unfair.If two or more teams end up with the same number of points, tiebreakers are used: first is goal difference, then total goals scored, then head-to-head results, and finally drawing of lots (i.e. determining team positions at random).
Is that just in FM or real life as well?
Oh right, are you talking about France and Tunisia in the 2002 World Cup then?
Didn't UEFA plan a penalty shootout in the group stages in Euro 2008 when that was going to happen? Perhaps FIFA should do as well.
I'm going to try and do some stuff today
There's one thing I've noticed when browsing the site though. Under 'Nation Guides', some of them are articles about the nation, as you'd expect, e.g. their good players, honours etc. However, others are about the league system in the country. I think these should go under 'League Guides' instead. Would make more sense I think, as some articles in this section currently are like this anyway, but others just include the teams in the league.
For what it's worth, in my opinion the nation guides should contain information about the national team, then maybe a list of the leagues in the nation, linking them to the league guides pages.
Opinions? If you understand what I've just written
Hi lads
Just to let you know that the FC United page will be up by the end of Easter and i am drafting it now
Of these, most are done now with an introduction. The only ones left are: the New England, New York and Redditch pages are blank, and Preston doesn't have much on it.Originally Posted by From above
Does anyone think that we should have a section for retired players who are favoured personal/icons/legends?
I suppose they would now I think about it.
Keep it as it is unless more people want it changing for now.
I think that they could merit their own category in the future but for the moment, they should be put in either the player or non-player category's.
I also think that instead of doing non-players(retired ones) we should focus on doing players in the game first.
But, if you would like, go ahead and do non-players.
I'm going to watch a match tonight so, I will be out but keep up the good work
Fantastic work lads.
Alan: You can keep your spot until Friday
Done pags for both da Silva twins, Theo Walcott, Carlos Vela, Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri.
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Personally I think that player profile pages should have information about them in FM, best position, tactical advice etc. Good pages though. I categorised Rafael for you because you forgot
They will do and they would all be in the right category but i'm half asleep
I did the Middlesbrough page last night. Probably needs a little more adding, like recommended formation, signings etc. but the rest of the page is there.
Done pages for Gabriel Zakuani, Danny Murphy, Brian Murphy and Ian Bennett.
They're all in the right place too
I've categorised the Son page, it is now a stub and under gameplay. If anyone thinks there is a more sutiable category for it just change it
Oh, I meant to ask.
Would you guys like a logo for the S-League article? I'm not sure how you guys go about getting these things, but I suppose the S-League website would be helpful.
Flash also means I can't link to the image directly.
Try this perhaps:
Is this the proper logo?


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I have two array list. Each has list of Objects of type User.
The User class looks like below
public class User {
private long id;
private String empCode;
private String firstname;
private String lastname;
private String email;
public User( String firstname, String lastname, String empCode, String email) {
this.empCode = empCode;
this.firstname = firstname;
this.lastname = lastname;
this.email = email;
// getters and setters
import java.util.ArrayList;
import java.util.List;
public class FindSimilarUsersWithAtLeastOneDifferentProperty {
* @param args
public static void main(String[] args) {
// TODO Auto-generated method stub
List<User> list1 = new ArrayList<User>();
list1.add(new User("F11", "L1", "EMP01", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list1.add(new User("F2", "L2", "EMP02", "email@example.com"));
list1.add(new User("F3", "L3", "EMP03", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list1.add(new User("F4", "L4", "EMP04", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list1.add(new User("F5", "L5", "EMP05", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list1.add(new User("F9", "L9", "EMP09", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list1.add(new User("F10", "L10", "EMP10", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
List<User> list2 = new ArrayList<User>();
list2.add(new User("F1", "L1", "EMP01", "email@example.com"));
list2.add(new User("F2", "L2", "EMP02", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list2.add(new User("F6", "L6", "EMP06", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list2.add(new User("F7", "L7", "EMP07", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list2.add(new User("F8", "L8", "EMP08", "email@example.com"));
list2.add(new User("F9", "L9", "EMP09", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
list2.add(new User("F100", "L100", "EMP10", "firstname.lastname@example.com"));
List<User> resultList = new ArrayList<User>();
// this list should contain following users
// EMP01 (common in both list but differs in firstname)
// EMP02 (common in both list but differs in email)
// EMP10 (common in both list but differs in firstname, lastname and email)
If you see the sample code, the two lists have four users with emp code EMP01, EMP02, EMP09 and EMP10 common.
So, we only need to compare the properties of these four users.
If any of the users have at least one different property it should be added in the result list.
Please advise on how do I go about this?


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Walter Pavasaris
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Walter Pavasaris earned a B.M. in music education from the Hartt College of Music, a M.M. in string instruments from the University of Michigan (where he was a Teaching Fellow) and a Ed.D. from Boston University.
A former double bassist in the West Point Band, his public school teaching career began in the Marshfield (Massachusetts) Public Schools. He became the director of orchestras and string teacher for the Belmont Massachusetts Public Schools in 1977. From 1990–2009, Walter was coordinator of Fine and Performing Arts for the Lexington (Massachusetts) Public Schools. His primary responsibilities in that position included advocating for the arts and creatingand implementing curricula in the areas of music, visual arts and drama. He supervised and evaluated a highly diverse Fine and Performing Arts faculty. Under his leadership, the arts maintained an integralplace within each student's basic education.
For more than three decades, Walter has positively impacted many music educators while serving as a faculty member at The Boston Conservatory, New England Conservatory (NEC), Boston University and Gordon College. He continues to be an active adjudicator, clinician and guest conductor throughout New England. As a conductor, he hasconducted numerous festival orchestras throughout Massachusetts, NewHampshire, Connecticut and Rhode Island. In 1992 and from 1999–2001 Walter was the guest conductor of the United States Youth Ensemble String Orchestra during their European Tour. From 2003–2008, he was the associate conductor of the Metrowest Orchestra in Hopkinton, Massachusetts. During the 2004and 2005 seasons, he served as music director of the Nashoba (Massachusetts) Youth Orchestras. Currently, Walter is the music director and conductor of the Arlington Philharmonic Orchestra, as well as conductor of the Northeast Massachusetts Youth Symphony Orchestra.
In 1992, Walter was the recipient of the Paul Smith Memorial 'Conductor of the Year Award,' presented by the Massachusetts Instrumental and Choral Conductors' Association. In 1996, the Massachusetts Music Educators' Association (MMEA) named him as a recipient of the 'Lowell Mason Award' acknowledging his numerous contributions to music and music education. In 2007 he received the MMEA's 'Visionary Leadership Award' for his outstanding contributions as a music administrator. In 2008, Walter was the recipient of the MMEA's 'Distinguished Service Award' in recognition of his exceptional support and outstanding accomplishments towards the advancement of music education in the schools of Massachusetts.
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Ornaments from all 56 U.S. states, territories and the District of Columbia to be displayed at the 2011 National Christmas Tree Lighting Ceremony in Washington, D.C. tonight
(LITTLE ROCK, AR.) Dec. 1, 2011 - The Artists in Residence Program at Arkansas Children's Hospitaldesigned and created the ornaments for Arkansas' tree in the 2011 National Christmas Tree display in
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A local artist and local youth were selected from each U.S. state, territory and the District of Columbia to design and create 24 ornaments. Twenty-three of the ornaments will be hung from the state or territory tree as part of the National Christmas Tree display in President's Park. One of the ornaments will decorate the White House Visitor Center Christmas tree, which showcases one ornament from all 56 states, territories and the District of Columbia.
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As one of America's oldest holiday traditions, the National Christmas Tree Lighting began on Christmas Eve in 1923, when President Calvin Coolidge lit a Christmas tree in front of 3,000 spectators on the Ellipse in President's Park. Since 1923, each succeeding President has carried on the tradition of what now has become a month-long event presented by the National Park Foundation and National Park Service. In addition to the National Christmas Tree display, President's Park hosts a variety of family-oriented holiday attractions, such as the Santa's Workshop, nightly holiday performances, a Yule log, nativity scene and model train display.
"It was inspiring to see the excitement on both the patients' and the family members' faces when they heard that their ornaments would be displayed in Washington, DC," said Elizabeth Weber, one of the ACH artists in residence who collaborated on the artworks. "It was a wonderful opportunity to be able to be a part of this project."
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The game is the following: player1 is hiding the coin in his hand and the player2 has to guess where is the coin. If he guesses that it is in the right hand of the player1, he obtains €2 (player1 looses €2). If player2 guesses that the coin in the left hand then he obtains €1 (player1 looses €1). If player2 didn't guess he gives €2 to player1 if the coin was in the right hand or €1 if the coin was in the left hand.
Suppose you are a player1.
1) You know that if the player2 guesses that the coin in your right hand, the player2 will have the maximal profit - then it's optimal to you to hide the coin in the left hand.
2) You know that the player2 can follow the same logic - and then he will come to the fact that you will hide the coin in the left hand and guess about your strategy. So on this step of thinking you will decide to "cheat" player's2 thoughts and hide a coin in the right hand.
You can make your decision on the optimality of the player2, but then you can assume that he will follow the same logic and hence will make another decision - and for this game the loop will never finish.
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The Drunken BrutePFD20SRD Barbarian's archetype provides the Raging Drunk class feature.
So you can dip one level in Barbarian and rage then drink when needed. However, it comes with a steep price.
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Any book that allows you to teach yourself X in Y hours.
I've read some in the past but once read you don't know any details whatsoever about X and you can't use the book as a reference for X either. After discovering that it seems better to go for the big books.
Hardcore Java
This book was written by a person that truly did not understand the finer points of java. He didn't even understand by ref or by val parameter passing. I'll quote the top rated amazon review: (it's a 1 star)
Its errata on O'Reilly is (last time I checked) 20+ pages long.
edit: just checked it, default settings in word, it's 23 pages long.
I still remember how bad this book was:
I was angry reading through it. I'll quote from my Amazon review:
Worst. Book. Ever.
It's the size of a phone book, and it's laid out like a sort of recipe book. It's basically a massive collection of thousands of code snippets for accomplishing various tasks, taken completely out of context and often wrong or broken or dated.
The only thing more hilarious is their follow-up book, Jamsa's C/C++/C# Programmers Bible. Because those languages are totally interchangeable, right?
Would you buy a book on programming from this man?
The worst book I ever read was Ingegneria del codice by McConnell Steve.
Yes, it is the Italian translation of the best book I ever read: Code Complete. But the translation was so bad that I had to buy the original version. It has been the last translated technical book I bought. Since then, I only read technical books in English.
This book was our reading list for a module on C++ in college.
It seemed to be a kinda of 2 for 1 purchase so we wouldn't have to buy a UML book.
The book's huge size combined with no flow and an obsession with ants is why it get my vote.
I think it may be in the running for the worst cover on a computer book.
I've come across lots of bad programming books, but those have always been ones that I just happened to come accross (e.g. in a bookstore, at a friend's place etc.). The only really bad book that I have ever bought and tried to follow that turned out to be utter garbage was Java 2: The Complete Reference by Herb Schild. The TA actually recommended that book.
I spent the whole semester wondering why that book was filled with irrelevance (that book isn't sure whether it is a tutorial or a reference IMHO). I know of some people who have liked it and claim they derived some benefit from it, but I just ditched the book near the end of the semester and focused on the class notes. Later on I found better books on Java, and really learnt the language.
Edit: Someone actually "borrowed" the book from me after some years, and failed to return it. So, I guess a least one person liked it.
Pro PHP Security by Snyder & Southwell for Apress.
Whilst I've met a lot of webdev books and tutorials with an extremely poor attitude to security (hence this cry for help), this book reaches new depths by having code packed full of security holes in a book that is supposed to be all about security.
I never read it in full, with loads of chapters barely touching on PHP, but even a cursory flick through revealed HTML-injections (XSS) in almost every example, even in the chapter about how to avoid XSS attacks. There's SQL-injection. There's directory traversal. This is in the 'how to do it' examples, not the 'here's a common mistake to avoid' bit! There are even (inadequate) suggestions on how to 'safely' use
What solutions it does offer are largely wrong-headed and discredited approaches based on 'sanitising' or randomly escaping at the input stage, instead of really understanding how text escaping works and how you need to do the right kind of encoding as and when output in a particular format is required. This misunderstanding is a widespread cause of broken apps and it is heartbreaking to see it in a 'security' book. And then there are the totally bizarre recommendations like adding an 'admin lock' column to all your tables to try to enforce access logic. Whut? Oh, and the code's a mess of mixed-up logic and markup, natch.
4 stars at Amazon! Buy your copy now!
Please forgive me... I was in college and was fascinated with Y2K. The book proved to be boring and like the hype, was all sensationalism. Complete garbage.
If you find this crap in a tester's cubicle--immediately fire him/her. This book is for imbeciles written by an imbecile.
Oh, and, well, controversially, this, I guess:
Stroustrup's The C++ Programming Language, third edition. It's not the worst programming book I've ever read by a long chalk, but it's certainly the most disappointing.
I remember liking the second edition, which was, at least, an attempt at writing in the same terse style as K&R's C masterpiece. Sadly, that edition predates templates and other features of the modern language, so isn't much use today.
The third edition jettisons any attempt at that terseness, ending up with a book three times as long as its predecessor, filling up its pages with endless tedious discussions of the author's ideas of best practices for object-oriented coding and software development in general.
Somewhere in between all the rambling there's a description of how the C++ language works, but good luck finding it. It's a sprawling mess of a book.
(Much like the language, eh?) (Sorry, that was uncalled for.) (Well maybe a bit called for.)
It has to be "Wicked Cool PHP"
I bought it because it had a robot with a hammer on the front cover,what could go wrong? I thought. Turns out everything. Pointless examples, terrible code and incorrect security information throughout.
Head First C#. Shame to the Head First family IMO.
Applying Domain-Driven Design and Patterns: With Examples in C# and .NET
The shame was that I love DDD, love the ideas presented in the book and the author is intelligent and knowledgeable; but I've tried reading this book through maybe 5-10 times now and just can't do it. The author needs to know when to stop talk, stop going on tangents, stop providing 'did you know' or 'story about this paragraph' sections on damn near every single page and stop trying to name drop on every paragraph.
Bottom line: The book's got some good information/ideas, except that they're buried in so much BS, that you'll never get to them. This book could have been 1/4 its content, and it would have been good.
UML in a NutShell (1st edition).
Essentially unreadable, needed reviewers to tell the author to start again with some explanation, not just a summary of the standards.
The 2nd edition, on the other hand, is readable and useful.
How to do everything with PHP and MySQL by Vikram Vaswani. That book set me back so much when learning programming at first. Horrible code, constant mixing and matching of code and markup, complete ignorance of OOP the barest nod to security throughout and just plain ignoring PHP5, which even then, wasn't exactly brand new.
I wrote a blog post on programming books in which I had this picture comparing the two first PHP books I got.
Guess which has the more accurate title?
I don't remember the title, but I recently saw a high school text book for Visual Basic. The first two chapters were not about coding or even VB related (A history of BASIC would have been an improvement.).
The school could have saved a lot of money by just Googling 'VB Hello World'.
Programming in C++ by Dewhurst and Stark:
It may not have been the worst ever. It makes my list because the first edition cover looked exactly like K&R's The C Programming Language, so I was expecting a work of similar quality. I got a copy 20 years ago, just as C++ was starting to get widespread notice. This book taught the syntax, but it did nothing to show a C programmer how to take advantage of C++'s features. I found it a very frustrating book.
Pragmatic Version Control using Subversion - Easily in the bottom rung among all the Pragmatic Programmer books I've read till now. Extremely thin on content. Some might argue that this book is for absolute beginners who are starting out with version control, but that's rubbish - whatever the book has, is not actually worth writing a book for.
I can't remember the name - later I might see if I can dig it out - but there was an ASP.NET book I had that had all the code snippets (and there were a lot) as Visual Studio screenshots. It seemed cool at first because it showed me exactly where to go in the IDE (I was just learning at that point). After a while though (Chapter 2, I think), I found I knew where everything was and I was just finding the shots too difficult to read.
Pro C# by Andrew Troelsen was mostly very good, but someone needs to teach the man to use examples properly. He'd teach one technique for a topic (let's say multithreading), then teach another and compare the two. The problem is that rather than simply updating the first sample with the new code, he'd write a totally new application that does something totally different, and throw a bunch of extra concepts into the mix as well.
A Computer Science Tapestry: Exploring Computer Science in C++
This was assigned reading when I was in college. Apart from being totally soporific, this book presents things in such a convoluted way, I doubt I could have parsed it without prior programming knowledge: most of my class, in which there was only one experienced coder beside myself, was completely lost.
I gave up after reading only a fraction of the book and tried using it to hold up the end of a wobbly bookcase. It wasn't great at that, either: a little too thick and the cover was slippery.
Verification of Sequential and Concurrent Programs, Second Edition, by Krzysztof R. Apt and Ernst-Rüdiger Olderog.
Maybe it was the subject matter, but I distinctly remember this as being the driest book I have ever read. Getting all the way to the end was a genuine soporific challenge.
Programming Microsoft Visual C++, 5ed (Kruglinski, Shepherd, Wingo)
Not that the book was bad, but its title is very misleading, especially to people new to C++. The preface of the book promises to teach you how to program in VC++, and a background in C but not C++ is all you need. Truth be told, you absolutely cannot learn anything about C++ from this book.
I owned this book for about 10 years, and recently (after working for a C++/Windows job for 4 years) I started to find a few chapters to be a bit useful when explaining stuff to new hires.
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We had a course at the university about knowledge systems. The book was real bad, it wasn't finished and hard to read. The teacher did not follow the book (although it was required for the course) and the exam consisted of multiple choise questions not related to both the book and the course. But fortunately the teacher reused questions of previous exams so the students learned them.
I have yet to come across a book that I haven't found useful.
I don't know why that is, but it is the way it is, isn't it?
There are far too many to list.
All of the SAMS books qualify.
I generally don't care to remember the dumb books. I sometimes just rip them down the spine (if they are paperback) and throw them out or burn them. I have not bought too many books recently.


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What are the benefits of using a conjugate linear inner product in a complex vector space vs a simple linear inner product? That is, why do we demand that $(y,x) = \overline{(x,y)}$ as opposed to $(y,x)=(x,y)$? Of course, this ensures that $(x,x)$ is real and thus makes an easy definition of norm, but is that necessary?
It is in fact necessary. The inner product axioms without the conjugation are inconsistent:
(Here $u$, $v$, $w$ are vectors and $c$ is a scalar)
In fact, 1-3 alone are inconsistent. Indeed, let $u$ be any nonzero vector, so $\langle u,u\rangle > 0$ by condition 3. But if $i = \sqrt{-1}$, then $\langle iu, iu\rangle = i\langle u, iu\rangle$ (by 1) $ = i\langle iu, u\rangle$ (by 2) $ = i^2\langle u, u\rangle$ (by 1) $ = -\langle u, u\rangle < 0$, contradicting condition 3.
The upshot is that you can choose: either conjugate one side of condition 2, giving you the axioms for an inner product, or get rid of condition 3, giving you the axioms for a symmetric bilinear form. You could also consider a weaker version of 3, like requiring that if $u\neq 0$, then $\langle u, v\rangle \neq 0$ for some $v$. That gives you nondegenerate symmetric bilinear forms.
Note that there's nothing wrong with bilinear forms on complex vector spaces; they're just not inner products. They're disjoint concepts, unlike in real vector spaces, where inner products are just special symmetric bilinear forms. In some ways, bilinear forms are nicer than inner products, since you don't have to worry about complex conjugation. However, bilinear forms over the complex numbers do not give rise to norms, which means they don't endow vector spaces with good geometry. Inner products do, hence their ubiquity.
You need to define the inner product this way (in a complex vector space) to have a good definition of the norm of a vector. Let $V$ be this vector space, and take $X\in V$. Then, the norm of X is defined as $|X|=\sqrt{(X,X)}$. This definition is good ($|X|$ is well defined for all $X$) if $(y,x)=(x,y)^*$. If this is not the case, for example if $(y,x)=(x,y)$, then $ (x,x) $ need not be positive. More: $(x,x)$ need not be real.
Aother thing, related to the above one: in metric spaces, given an inner product we define a norm (the same way we did above) and, from the norm, a distance function. This distance function determines the topology of the space (the topology induced by the inner product). To do this, we need to be able to define in a good way the norm of a vector, and the problem appears again.


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The so-called Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) imposed a mandate on all American citizens to buy health insurance, whether they wanted to our not. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that this constituted a tax.
"His Majesty," Mayor Flanagan, has decreed that all users of the Fall River trash collection system must buy his purple bags. This is a mandate in exactly the same manner as Obamacare. But Obamacare was passed by a Democratic controlled Congress before being signed into law by the president.
His Majesty didn't bother to seek legislative approval from the City Council or otherwise for his PAYT program. If this isn't illegal, it should be. I support his recall.
I am sure that others have noted this but chose to remain silent, either out of loyalty to their supreme leader or because that is how you deal with the people of Fall River. They are used to it!
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"Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected."
Who were they?
Who were they?
They seem to be of the magicians that worked against Moses in Egypt:
This has been taken from Wikipedia, and I don't know how much weight should be given it. However, they seems to be evidence backing it up:
The Jews have long since known of them. Taken from a Jewish Encyclopedia:
Wood, D. R. W. ; Marshall, I. Howard: New Bible Dictionary. 3rd ed. Leicester, England; Downers Grove, Ill. : InterVarsity Press, 1996, S. 543
Insight on the Scriptures Vol. 1 pp. 1254-1255 Jannes
Elwell, Walter A. ; Comfort, Philip Wesley: Tyndale Bible Dictionary. Wheaton, Ill. : Tyndale House Publishers, 2001 (Tyndale Reference Library), S. 669


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With my second pregnancy, I decided that I was an expert. After all, my first baby had been born one year earlier so I felt as if I knew everything there was to know. Babies took time to be delivered, didn't they? When the contractions started, I calmly informed my husband that I was going to "get clean" for the baby (and the doctor), so I stepped into the shower, figuring I had hours to go before delivery. Within minutes, I was doubled over in pain. My husband screamed at me to get out of the shower, which I did post haste. We barely made it to the hospital before I delivered a baby boy (thankfully in a room). My husband missed the delivery both he and the doctor were still in the process of walking in from the parking lot. Time from actual first contraction to delivery 47 minutes. Moral of the story: Make sure it's a quickie shower, that is.
Other Symptoms of Impending Birth
Besides the obvious contractions, you may feel increasing pain or pressure on the lower back, as well as the abdomen, as the baby moves down into the birth canal and into position. You might also think you need to have a bowel movement when you don't really have to go to the bathroom, or you could feel like pushing (don't go with that feeling quite yet).
Emotionally and mentally, you may feel distracted or distraught and unable to focus. You might be supersensitive emotionally and feel like crying a lot. You could also experience extreme fatigue, or the opposite, tons of energy. Swings of emotions can be attributed to many reasons. They could be caused by a lack of sleep, your diet not being as good as it is normally, stress, or even the fear of the unknown (for example, a first-time mother might be worried about the upcoming pain of labor and delivery).
You could act differently for any number of reasons or just from the daily problems of living. Most of the time, these feelings are quite normal. Usually, what helps is to have a good conversation with someone whom you trust and love who cares about you. Talk to that person and ask him/her to listen. A sympathetic ear goes a long way.
With questions specific to pain, you should talk to your physician or midwife so that your fears can be allayed. In modern obstetrics, the overwhelming majority of women will receive some form of anesthesia, so the pain of labor and delivery is much less intensified and not a cause for concern.
From a Mother Who Has Been There...
The worst time for me was always right before the baby came. I got tense, irritable, and asked my doctor nonstop when the baby was coming. I worried about everything from whether the house was clean to how I'd handle my in-laws to what to pack for the hospital. I worried about my body would I be "fat" forever, would I still be attractive and normal after the baby was born, would my breasts sag, would I have stretch marks, etc. What I didn't do was stop to take a breath and calm down. I'd strongly advise that. Just an FYI once the baby is born, all those pressures and tension are gone magically and instantly. It's a wonderful thing.
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Reproduced from Absolute Beginner's Guide to Pregnancy, by John Adams and Marta Justak, by permission of Pearson Education. Copyright © 2005 by Que Publishing. Please visit Amazon to order your own copy.


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