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From bias to blackout?
Let's stipulate at the outset that the trial of Kermit Gosnell -- who is charged with murdering seven babies and one patient in his nightmarish, unmonitored Philadelphia abortion mill -- which began on March 18 -- should have received more coverage from national media outlets. (You can catch up with the story by reading Mollie Wilson O'Reilly's dotCommonweal posts here, here, and here-- published in January and February 2011.) As New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan has pointed out, while her paper's work on Gosnell was "not insubstantial," there "certainly could be more coverage." But was the relatively limited national coverage of the early stages of Gosnell's trial, following, as it did, lots of coverage of the nauseating grand-jury report two years ago, motivated by journalists' prochoice bias, as so many critics claim? Was it a "full-blown, coordinated blackout throughout the entire national media"? Or merely one that looked planned because of the media's uniformly prochoice ideology?
Is this such an open-and-shut caseof media bias? I'm dubious.
I see at least four problems with the idea that liberal media bias is mostly to blame for the "blackout." First, where were these critics while the liberal media was mum on the Gosnell trial? Kirstin Powers made a splash with her column, "We've Forgotten What Belongs on Page One," but if the trial is as newsworthy as she says, then why did she wait until April 11 -- three weeks after it began -- to mention it? On the same day, a New York Post editorial claimed that the reason for the "media blackout" was "obvious: Much of our press corps skews to one side on abortion." Yet that editorial seems to be the first time the Post mentioned Gosnell at all. What about Rupert Murdoch's other New York paper? Turns out the Wall Street Journal apparently hasn't covered the trial either. Other conservative outlets? Not much better. The conservative Washington Times, Kevin Drums points out, has published just one story on the trial (but several on the "media blackout"). And Salon's Alex Seitz-Wald found little coverage of the story from conservative news organizations: "the Weekly Standard has done three pieces (the magazine has run six stories on Justin Bieber)." (One of the standard complaints is that the national media has covered far less important stories much more frequently.) And what about our elected representatives -- not members of the press, of course, but news-makers all the same? The three congressmen who spoke about Gosnell on Thursday -- all Republicans -- apparently had nothing to say about him during the 2011-2012 session of Congress. (Indeed, Seitz-Wald found that the 2011-2012 Congressional Record contains no references to Gosnell.) Do they have a role in the "blackout"? Or is there a chance these critics just weren't paying much attention until now?
Problem two: Some of the first people to cover Gosnell were prochoice writers. From the start, they argued that the terrible details in the grand-jury report redounded to the benefit of their cause. Indeed, some used the case to press for more public funding of abortions -- precisely because many of Gosnell's patients were poor women. Simon van Zuylen-Wood summarized their arguments this way:
The moral to be drawn from the Gosnell trial is not that current abortion laws are screwed up. Indeed, Gosnell broke them, which is why hes on trial. Rather, its that as individual states increasingly restrict abortion rights, more and more illegal clinics, like Gosnells may crop up.
Or, as Katha Pollitt put it, "This is what illegal abortion looks like." Of course, not everyone agreed. Former Commonweal columnist Melinda Henneberger was among the first to point out that no, actually, this is what unregulated abortion looks like. Gosnell's offices hadn't been inspected for nearly two decades. According to the grand-jury report, when Gov. Bob Casey left office in 1993, the Pennsylvania Department of Health stopped inspecting abortion clinics:
The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of administration from Governor Casey [a prolife Democrat] to Governor Ridge [a prochoice Republican], officials concluded that inspections would be "putting a barrier up to women" seeking abortions. Even nail salons in Pennsylvania are monitored more closely for client safety.
As Henneberger points out, even though a National Abortion Federation representative visited Gosnell's clinic (at his invitation, amazingly) and found it "the worst...she had ever seen," according to the grand jury, she didn't inform authorities. Strange behavior for someone whose job is to ensure that women have access to safe, legal abortions. Gov. Tom Corbett eventually fired the officials faulted by the grand jury, and ordered that abortion clinics be inspected annually.
In my judgment, Henneberger has the stronger argument. But the policy question is not the same as that of media bias. One may not agree with the lessons prochoice writers think we should learn from the horrors cataloged by the grand-jury report, but they did not shy away from its contents. Indeed, disagreement between journalists like Pollitt and Henneberger makes it difficult to assert that the Gosnell case obviously supports one cause or the other. That complicates charges of liberal media bias. And the report was covered by major national news outlets -- as soon as it was released.
Which brings me to the third problem for the allegation of liberal bias: Why did it take the liberal media so long to figure out how damaging the Gosnell story was to their pet cause? If they were really interested in shielding Gosnell from public view, why would they have run lots of stories on it two years ago? Why would the AP be reporting on it every day? If this is a "mainstream media blackout," it's the worst ever.
A fourth problem: What kind of coverage do the critics want? All day Friday, and throughout much of the weekend, Twitter was blowing up with interrogations of tweeting reporters: Why aren't you covering this trial? But has anyone suggested how the story should be covered now? "Cover it immediately, every day," seems to be their mantra. Few acknowledge that trials are different kinds of stories, requiring different resources -- more than it takes, say, for someone to sit in front of a computer with a grand-jury report, typing out its most stomach-turning details. How should reporters and editors approach the story in a way that distinguishes it from their previous coverage? Where is the tension? Does anyone believe Gosnell will get off? Do prolife critics want the horrors recounted every time someone takes the stand? But, a news editor might wonder, if they have already been widely told -- two years ago, when the grand-jury report dropped -- why do it all again by reporting daily testimony against Gosnell?
The New York Times had someone there at the beginning of the trial. The paper will have someone there for the end (if someone isn't there already). Others will follow suit. Trial coverage often goes this way. Television is picking up the story again now, although since when did we start pining for TV news coverage of anything? For now it's mostly commentary on the alleged "blackout." This is a difficult story for TV news -- and not only because TV cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom. People don't want to think about baby dismemberment as they start their day, over dinner, or before bed.
Perhaps that's the key to understanding the limited coverage of this trial. Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly acknowledged this during a Friday segment on Gosnell coverage: "We have not been covering this story in great detail because it's so horrific.... It's just too dark to talk about the murder of all of these babies. And the testimony has been so gruesome. It's a hard subject to put on the front page or in your program every day." She might have added that the exploitation of poor women isn't exactly the media's favorite subject.
Credit where it's due: those who lobbied for more trial coverage are going to get it. This is a good thing. But did they need to indulge their darkest fears about the "mainstream media" in the process? Did they have to call it a "blackout"? Presuming ill will is always a dangerous move -- after all, as the coverage of the coverage shows, it can cut both ways. Is it impossible that some reporters and editors looked away because they didn't want to spread bad news about abortion? Of course not. But is it the only, or even the best explanation for the media handling of Gosnell's trial? As much as I agree with those who are outraged by the contents of the grand-jury report, and as much as I'm persuaded by Henneberger's response to that terrible document, I can't answer yes to that question. Occam's razor applies.
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Thanks for this, Grant. I was bewildered when I first started seeing people complain about the media's "silence" on Gosnell, because I remembered reading (and writing) all about the case two years ago. I read that whole horrifying Grand Jury report, and I found it by following a link from one of those mainstream newspapers. I guess a lot of people missed it at the time, but their not having been aware of it does not mean the media conspired to hide it from them. So, no blackout. And as you point out, it's very hard to square the assumption that news orgs are avoiding reporting on the trial because it might set back the prochoice cause with the reality that many prochoice commentators were all over this story two years ago because they thought it helped their case. I can't get over this take, which you linked to, from Rick Garnett at Mirror of Justice: "The unwillingess to report on this story...it is most reasonable to conclude, reflects the reporters' decision that it would be unhelpful to the cause of expanding abortion rights." That's the most reasonable conclusion he could come up with? He needs to do a little more reasoning and a lot more reading.I'm not even sure that more coverage, in itself, is something to be wished for. Wall-to-wall media coverage of criminal trials is rarely an edifying spectacle. I'd like the case to be more generally known and discussed -- especially since so many people who I would have expected to be interested were apparently not paying attention when the news broke back in 2011. But if people are going to use this case as a peg to hang their preexisting resentments on, ignoring what's really challenging about it in public-policy terms, what good would more frequent coverage do?
Hi, just got back from the doctor's waiting room, where I was shocked to learn that Obama is lusting to cap our IRAs at $3 million because he wants the government to control us and that Gen. Eisenhower slept with his driver. And that was on Megyn Kelly, where Fox comes closest to being honest. That's how these blackouts spread, I guess.
Here is the Times' take (no preexisting resentments in evidence) on "this weekend's silliness about coverage:"http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/15/kermit-gosnell-and-reprod...
Mollie Wilson OReilly: regarding your comments: I remembered reading (and writing) all about the case two years ago. I read that whole horrifying Grand Jury report, and I found it by following a link from one of those mainstream newspapers. I guess a lot of people missed it at the time, but their not having been aware of it does not mean the media conspired to hide it from them. So, no blackout. And as you point out, its very hard to square the assumption that news orgs are avoiding reporting on the trial because it might set back the prochoice cause with the reality that many prochoice commentators were all over this story two years ago because they thought it helped their case. I cant get over this take, which you linked to, from Rick Garnett at Mirror of Justice: The unwillingess to report on this storyit is most reasonable to conclude, reflects the reporters decision that it would be unhelpful to the cause of expanding abortion rights. Thats the most reasonable conclusion he could come up with? He needs to do a little more reasoning and a lot more reading.No blackout??? Nonsense. You need to do a lot more reading and reasoning. See Kirsten Powers U.S. News column that prompted discussion about lack of coverage of the Gosnell trial: A Lexis-Nexis search shows none of the news shows on the three major national television networks has mentioned the Gosnell trial in the last three months. The exception is when Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan hijacked a segment on Meet the Press meant to foment outrage over an anti-abortion rights law in some backward red state.The Washington Post has not published original reporting on this during the trial and The New York Times saw fit to run one original story on A-17 on the trial's first day. They've been silent ever since, despite headline-worthy testimony. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/04/10/philadelphia-abortion-c... fact that major newspapers and possibly the major networks reported on the shocking grand jury report when it first appeared seemingly out of the blue hardly refutes accusations of bias for lack of coverage of the trial two years later. Given reporters knowledge of the grand jury report one would have expected to see near saturation coverage as was the case with other otherwise local crimes stories such as the O.J. trial, the Casey Anthony trial, and now even the Jodi Arias trial. Well see the pattern repeated soon when the Trayvon Martin murder trial begins. After all, a death penalty prosecution of a doctor for killing a patient and newborn babies is rare enough by itself to engender substantial coverage and the likelihood of sensational testimony only adds to the if it bleeds it leads inducement for full coverage.The fact is, in view of the well documented liberal, pro-choice slant of the major news outlets which worship at the altar of abortion rights, Professor Garnetts opinion is plainly justified. And your no blackout comment is obtuse.
A couple of responses:1. No one has said there was a complete and 100% blackout, such that no media outlet had ever mentioned the story before now. The argument I've seen, which seems hard to dispute, is that there has been about 1,000 times less coverage of this story than the wall-to-wall saturation coverage given to Newtown, Columbine, or other jaw-dropping sensational crimes. 2. Sure, there are a few hard-core pro-choicers who are well familiar with and don't mind the horrors of abortion, and who were therefore willing to discuss this story before now (with the angle that it shows the need for even more abortion). That doesn't disprove the fact that most pro-choice journalists, the kind who exist in polite society, are rather more skittish about delving into the nasty details about abortion. They'd rather just sweep it all under the carpet. 3. What kind of coverage do people want? Conor Friedersdorf provides a good model of how a journalist could think about this:
For this isn't solely a story about babies having their heads severed, though it is that. It is also a story about a place where, according to the grand jury, women were sent to give birth into toilets; where a doctor casually spread gonorrhea and chlamydiae to unsuspecting women through the reuse of cheap, disposable instruments; an office where a 15-year-old administered anesthesia; an office where former workers admit to playing games when giving patients powerful narcotics; an office where white women were attended to by a doctor and black women were pawned off on clueless untrained staffers. Any single one of those things would itself make for a blockbuster news story. Is it even conceivable that an optometrist who attended to his white patients in a clean office while an intern took care of the black patients in a filthy room wouldn't make national headlines?But it isn't even solely a story of a rogue clinic that's awful in all sorts of sensational ways either. Multiple local and state agencies are implicated in an oversight failure that is epic in proportions! If I were a city editor for any Philadelphia newspaper the grand jury report would suggest a dozen major investigative projects I could undertake if I had the staff to support them.
I am surprised by this wobbly piece by Gallicho.Like 'Wasting Time' said, no one has claimed a "100%" black-out across the media spectrum, but the fact of the matter is that (at least until recently) ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NPR, and PBS had reported NOTHING about the trial. That is a big deal.(As a regular listener of NPR, I know that they are still too busy airing fawning stories of Hugo Chavez while reiterating for the 1,000th time what a horrible leader Margaret Thatcher was.)And Gallicho's remark about WSJ ... While it is well known that the editorial/op-ed pages of the WSJ are quite conservative, the *news* division of the WSJ is actually liberal. (And, btw, Media Matters is a *gross* web site. Yuck.)
Oh, they meant a partial blackout. I see.Do those people speak English?
Thanks, Fr Imbelli, for the link to the Rosenthan piece in the Times. Yes, just a lot of silliness, and really what the story about some "supposed" media bias brings up is that: "this sort of intimidation and through legitimate political action, anti-abortion forces have been alarmingly successful in restricting womens access to reproductive health services, including birth control, cancer screening and other services. That is the real issue." Notice how the word "abortion" is missing from all the reproductive health issues. It is also interesting to note how so many journalists rush to their own defense (or the defense of other practioners of their craft) when the profession is attacked. It can be a bit reminiscent of when other groups (Vatican, bishops, priests) rush to one another's defense when the actions of their compatriots come under attack or scrutiny. We must protect the tribe!
I had the same thought as Anthony Andreass. That editorial blog post certainly reflects its own media bias when all of a sudden we don't call abortion "abortion" anymore .The title of the post: "Kermit Gosnell and Reproductive Care" and.. "If anything, the case highlights the need for safe, affordable and available womens reproductive health care."What's that all about?
More from Kirsten Powers on the lack of mainstream news coverage of the Gosnell trial:Yes, There Is a Gosnell Trial Cover-up by Major News Organizations, 4/16/13http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/16/yes-there-is-a-gosnell-... article is written in English, so Grant Gallicho can have no complaint.Excerpt: while it seems obvious that the national media has mostly ignored the story, a bevy of left-wing journalists and activists have loudly disagreed in recent daysasserting that the big three networks and the major newspapers have appropriately covered a trial that none sent a reporter to cover. If youve never heard of the Gosnell story, Irin Carmon wrote in a widely circulated Salon piece, its probably because you failed to pay attention to the copious coverage among pro-choice and feminist journalists, as well as the big news organizations, when the news first broke in 2011.As for (Carmons) claim that there was copious coverage she links to RH Reality Check (Reproductive & Sexual Health and Justice), The Grio, Philadelphia Weekly, The Nation, CBS Newss Crimesider blog, and NPR. That so many of the people now rushing to claim that Gosnell was widely covered cant tell the difference between activist media and The New York Times or CBS Evening News is a little scary. Of the outlets she listed, NPR is the only one that can reasonably be considered mainstream, so yea for that one story. (Powers initial column) and the ensuing outrageand much of the outrage came from people with vaginas despite Carmons egregious and divisive claim that it was just the patriarchy rearing its ugly headwas specific to the fact that the mainstream media had not covered the trial of Kermit Gosnell, which started March 18, 2013. I am going to repeat this, because a starling number of people on the left, including New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan, either cannot grasp this or are intentionally ignoring it. Repeat after me: The problem is that the trial has not been covered. That the Times ran one story about Gosnell in January is hardly relevant to the trial that started in March.It is the trial that has included spectacular and headline-grabbing testimony from Gosnells former assistants and workers. It is the trial that has been largely ignored outside of local media and activists on the right and left. This, despite the normal obsession with murder trials (Good Morning America has done a 10-part series on the Jody Arias trial). It is the trialrife with grisly details about an abortion doctor who maimed and killed women and babiesthat was ignored, despite The Washington Posts, The New York Times's, and network evening newss usual obsession with all things abortion related.
Mr. Gallicho -- The original column by Kristen Powers did not use the word "blackout," in English or otherwise. What she did say was this:
Since the murder trial of Pennsylvania abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell began March 18, there has been precious little coverage of the case that should be on every news show and front page. . . . A Lexis-Nexis search shows none of the news shows on the three major national television networks has mentioned the Gosnell trial in the last three months. The exception is when Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan hijacked a segment on Meet the Press meant to foment outrage over an anti-abortion rights law in some backward red state.The Washington Post has not published original reporting on this during the trial and The New York Times saw fit to run one original story on A-17 on the trial's first day. They've been silent ever since, despite headline-worthy testimony.
Nothing that you say disproves or even directly addresses her claims there.
I was responding to DPierre. But now Powers is talking about a coverup, so I see she's upped the ante. She says feminists are angry that the "mainstream media" are not paying attention to Gosnell. That makes me wary of her analytical apparatus. It's not as obvious as she thinks. When you're editing a piece, and your author writes something like, "it's obvious that" or begins an argument with "clearly," it's always a good idea to look very hard at the claims that follow. But I'm sure she's done complaining now because the "big guns" have showed up in Philly: http://www.phillyburbs.com/blogs/news_columnists/jd_mullane/big-media-sh... Imbelli has linked to a piece, calling it "the Times' take." Curiously he did not pick up on something I linked to in my post, by the public editor of the New York Times:http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/15/politics-aside-the-gosn... let's stop pretending journalists are incapable of self-criticism.
Nothing "curious" about it Grant.Kudos to Ms Sullivan for her self-criticism (which you've commended):"I do think that it wasnt on their radar screen and that it should have been. The murders of seven newborn babies, done so horrifically, would be no ordinary crime. Any suggestion, including mine on Friday, that this is just another murder trial is a miscalculation. And its certainly possible that journalists who were more in touch with conservative voices and causes would have picked up on the importance of this trial sooner.Judged on news value alone, the Gosnell trial deserves more coverage than its had, in The Times and elsewhere."But it's clear that the Public Editor's "take" is her own; Mr. Rosenthal speaks for the "Times." Or am I wrong?
No, Bob, in fact Rosenthal's comments were from his personal blog so represent his own views -- and even moreso that the way B16's Jesus books represented his personal views, for example. When the NYT editorial board speaks ex cathedra, as it were, that is the result of collaborative discussions that Rosenthal oversees, along with the publisher. They haven't made any pronouncements on their thoughts on Gosnell coverage that I have seen. Moreover, as you know the editorial and news sides are separate entities. They may have similar views but news coverage decisions are in fact made, or not made, on their own. Much of this Gosnell debate is in fact among journalists (and the NYT and other places have ombudspeople, which is more than one can say of the Catholic Church). Grant's argument here is solid; I havent seen any evidence against it. Expressions of fuming resentment at the media and the NYT don't count as evidence, BTW.
That's very confusing if a NY Times editor has a blog on the NY Times website "the Editor's blog", which reflects his own opinion and does not reflect the position of the paper.
The trouble with the "media bias" claim is this: you can't keep insisting that mainstream news outlets are obviously not reporting on the Gosnell trial because they find it unhelpful to the prochoice cause once you are forced to acknowledge that they did report on the case when the news first broke. And they did, because, again, that's how I found out about it. Two years ago. Kirsten Powers can see that problem, and it seems she's moving forward by insisting that only coverage of the trial should matter, and disregarding the reporting that preceded her media-bias campaign -- pretending, for example, that Irin Carmon's links to long-ago coverage of the case (which she herself described as "disparate") are exhaustive, or that the gory details of Gosnell's crime were only revealed after the trial began. Someone should lend Powers their Lexis-Nexis password. Speaking of self-critical journalists, Melinda Henneberger has a thoughtful take at the Washington Post. Her judgment:
I say we didnt write more because the only abortion story most outlets ever cover in the news pages is every single threat or perceived threat to abortion rights. In fact, that is so fixed a view of what constitutes coverage of that issue that its genuinely hard, I think, for many journalists to see a story outside that paradigm as news.
She may be right. And it may be that the same fixed view made it hard for journalists to see this story as many prochoice commentators saw it -- as a story that was about threatened abortion rights. Henneberger is worth listening to, and so are a lot of other journalists who have weighed in. However, a lot of what's passing for journalism criticism -- the stuff that kicked off this uproar in the first place -- doesn't seem to be founded on any real interest in how journalism works or should work. Unless you're prepared to seriously examine how trials (as opposed to public crimes, police investigations, high-profile arrests, etc.) are covered in various media, it's begging the question to say that this trial would be getting more coverage than it is if it weren't about abortion. I'm someone who worked to bring the case to people's attention two years ago, and I think we should still be talking about it. But I also think it's genuinely hard to say what the Gosnell case "deserves" in terms of trial coverage. It will get more now, certainly, because people have expressed an interest; perhaps if more readers had reacted to the initial reports of the case in 2011, major outlets would have prioritized following the progress of the trial. But it's tautological to say that this trial is obviously being under-covered because other events/stories that are getting more coverage are...getting a lot of coverage. It's not being covered like Newtown because it isn't Newtown. It's not being covered like Casey Anthony, either, or that American student who was accused of murdering her roomate in Italy. The contrasts don't redound to anyone's credit, but the reasons for the differences are complex and not obviously ideological.
But its tautological to say that this trial is obviously being under-covered because other events/stories that are getting more coverage aregetting a lot of coverage. Who has said this? I think the argument is that this trial is being under-covered because other events (even other trials) that are no more sensational (probably less so) and that offer fewer angles to explore (such as regulatory oversight) regularly get much more coverage.
Another odd aspect of the journalistic "blackout" alleged here is that the entire case raises issues that can be dealt with by the very outlets that ignored the case and are now complaining. National Review, Commentary, the whole bunch are places that don't cover trials per se -- they can't afford to, and shouldn't be excpected to. But the regularly cover the Big Issues raised by these cases, and the Gosnell case is full of them. You can write about them from your desk. So why they haven't is interesting, and not explained. And why they are now complaining about others not writing about what they ignored is weird.
"Oh, they meant a partial blackout. I see."A gray-out?The handling of this case is simple. All the gory details came out two years ago. For network news to cover this, Dr Gosnall would have had to had ties to Rev Wright. Or one of the assistants was having an affair with Justin Bieber.Political pro-lifers would have had a field day if they could have managed this horror like Terry Schiavo: family feuds, mayors and governors, etc.. On the other hand, real journalists, if there are any left working for Our Corporate Masters, would be sifting through why Republicans pulled the plug on abortion mill oversight. Maybe they'd have to deal with the reality that Richard Nixon was our most anti-life president, and oops, he was a Republican, too.How silly do they want this to get?
David writes,"Rosenthals comments were from his personal blog so represent his own views."Views which he brings to the "editorial board" as editorial page editor. Let us savvy media people who are adept at "speaking truth to power" not play naive.And "expressions of fuming resentment" is a tired rhetorical trope on a par with "preexisting resentments." It seems resentment is all the rage these days.
There's a huge semantic problem in all of this: the term "media" is a plural noun, and it signifies many kinds of media and within the many kinds there many individual outlets. Everybody knows this -- yet we persist in using the term as a singular when that doesn't match reality. In her second article, Kirsten What's-her-name is getting to this problem. She notes that the mainstream media (ABC, NBC, CBS, ets.) barely noted the trial, and, yes, we need to ask why. As to covering the topic of mistreatment of women at Gosnell's, the feminist voices hardly covered it at all -- for instance, Planned Parenhood and League of Women Voters never covered the Gosnell clinic's appalling conditions even though they had persisted for 16 years and many complaints had been made. Their lack of interest in the bad treatment of some women is also a story. Why *wasn't* Planned Parenthood on the backs of the local and state health authorities that ignored the complaints? Complexity, complexity, complexity.
Bob, always good to see you taking the high road.Could you provide some evidence that would counter Grant's arguments rather than innuendo?
...the NYT and other places have ombudspeople (sic), which is more than one can say of the Catholic Church...That goes on my list of things Id never thought Id hear.*************It seems resentment is all the rage these days.That goes on my list of things I wish that I had said.*************Why wasnt Planned Parenthood on the backs of the local and state health authorities that ignored the complaints?That goes on my list of things that I can answer. AnnIsnt it obvious? The whole edifice could come crashing down if people started poking around. PP certainly doesnt want their cash cow endangered.
Robert: No one said Rosenthal lacks influence on the editorial board. He runs the opinion page (that is, he solicits and accepts and edits op-eds). He is not duty-bound to pretend he doesn't have any opinions of his own. David's comparison with Benedict's books is apt. Editorial meetings, I can tell you from experience, are rarely without disagreement. You said that Rosenthal "speaks for the Times," then asked whether you were wrong. David explained why you were wrong. And on this point you are. Critics of the "mainstream media" often forget, or don't know to begin with, that the editorial page does not assign news stories. So Rosenthal has nothing to do with Times news coverage of Gosnell.
Grant,I certainly accept your experience. I have no doubt that "editorial meetings are rarely without disagreement." However, that disagreement is within certain parameters. Were you on the Board of "First Things" or R.R. Reno on "Commonweal's" Board, I do not doubt that the range of disagreement would be much greater.Thus my point above was to suggest that Mr. Rosenthal's "take" is far closer to the "Times'" editorial position and attitude than is that of the Public Editor. We remember well the final column of one of her predecessor's regarding the "Times" uniformly "liberal" world view, holding any other "take" incomprehensible. My "speaking for the Times" intended to suggest, perhaps without sufficient precision, that Rosenthal is both representative of and influential in articulating the "Times'" editorial position. I do understand the difference between a blog post and a signed editorial.As to your assertion that "the editorial page does not assign news stories," does that not need some qualification? Are you saying that the editors of the paper (be it the "Times" or the "Post") do not assign new stories and then decide on their placement in the paper? And I do appreciate your acknowledgement in the original post: "Credit where its due: those who lobbied for more trial coverage are going to get it. This is a good thing."
Maybe there is less coverage of these awful murders because they are just too awful for people to want to follow, even people who like to follow scandalous murders.I know I can't read about it, it's just too horrible. If people won't read it, will papers write about it?
Robert: No, I am saying that newspapers are quite serious about maintaining a firewall between its editorials and its reporting. The Washington bureau chief, for example, will assign reporters to cover news on that beat. That wouldn't be part of Rosenthal's job.
Grant,And to whom does the Washington Bureau Chief speak and report? Who decided now to cover the trial in question? Who decides what stories to run and where to position them? Am I being obtuse or are you being naive? During the Conclave there were reporters who received instructions as to what to focus on and highlight. I suggest that the "firewall" is quite porous -- both on the left and the right.
Robert: I don't know whether you're being obtuse. I get the sense that you've decided how the New York Times really is, and you're working hard to resist the testimony of actual working journalists that undermines your view of the paper. Are there bureau chiefs and section editors who agree with Rosenthal? Certainly. Is that the only explanation for the fact that the Times hasn't been covering the trial on a daily basis? Certainly not.
Methinks "only" tells the tale.
I'm still trying to figure out why the guy gets his own personal blog on the NY Times website. Why should anyone care about his personal opinion about anything?


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NUTR 322 Biochemistry of Nutrition I (3-0-3), fall. Focuses on normal nutrition and physiological function. Applies biochemistry to nutrient use from consumption through digestion, absorption, distribution and cellular metabolism. It integrates life processes from the cellular level through the multisystem operation of the whole organism. Prerequisites: CHEM 111/113 and 112/114 or CHEM 131/133 and CHEM 132/134, BIOL 291/293 and BIOL 292/294, and NUTR 221.
NUTR 323 Biochemistry of Nutrition (3-0-3), spring only. Applies biochemistry to nutrient use from consumption through digestion, absorption, distribution, and cellular metabolism and integrates physiological processes from the cellular level through the multisystem operation of the whole organism. Prerequisites: NUTR 221, NUTR 322; CHEM 112/114 or 132/134.
NUTR 325 Quantity Food Production and Service (2-4-3) fall. Study of management theories, program planning, monitoring, and evaluation. Provides working knowledge of systems and marketing theories, food consumption issues and trends, food production and delivery systems, regulations and policies, and environmental issues related to food. The students will demonstrate the ability to determine recipe modifications for volume food production and apply marketing principles. Field experience hours required.
NUTR 327 Nutrition Through the Life Cycle (3-0-3), fall. The study of each life cycle stage concerning nutritional foundations that are essential for positive development and health. It addresses the role of nutrition and factors that influence nutritional status. Nutrition assessment and disease states for each life cycle are studied. Prerequisite: NUTR 221.
NUTR 328 Community Nutrition (3-0-3), fall. Study of public policy development and current nutrition issues affecting public health. Provides working knowledge of assessment and treatment of nutritional health risks, food availability and access, and community nutrition programs. The student will demonstrate the ability to screen individuals for nutritional risk and determine nutrient needs of individuals and groups in the community. Prerequisite: NUTR 221.
NUTR 401 Nutrition Seminar (1-0-1), fall. Explores professional aspects of employment including health care policy and administration, code of ethics, standards of practice, performance improvement, and reimbursement issues. Personal portfolio will be developed. Required of nutrition majors in the NDPD concentration. Prerequisite: junior standing. A capstone course.
NUTR 421 Nutrition Assessment and Education (3-0-3), spring. Provides information concerning objective measures of nutritional status and determination of responsiveness to medical nutritional therapy. Dietary counseling techniques are explored. A writing-intensive course. Prerequisite: NUTR 221. A capstone and writing-intensive course.
NUTR 423 Food Safety (1-0-1), spring. Provides accurate, science-based information on all aspects of handling food and incorporates the latest Food and Drug Administration Food Code in a realistic manner. The nationally recognized ServSafe examination by the National Restaurant Association Educational Foundation will be administered for certification. Prerequisite: NUTR 222.
NUTR 425 Medical Nutrition Therapy I (3-0-3), spring. Provides working knowledge of pathophysiology related to nutrition care, medical nutrition therapies, assessment of need for adaptive feeding techniques, and nutritional pharmacology. The student will demonstrate the ability to interpret medical terminology and laboratory parameters, calculate and define therapeutic diets, determine nutrient requirements, and calculate enteral and parenteral formulations. Prerequisites: BIOL 291/293, 292/294; NUTR 322.
NUTR 426 Food Science (2-4-3), spring. Study of experimental methodology, food additives and preservatives, principles of food processing, and biotechnology. Provides working knowledge of sensory and objective evaluation of foods. The student will demonstrate the ability to apply knowledge of functions of ingredients in food. Prerequisite: NUTR 222.
NUTR 427 Food System Organization and Administration (3-0-3), spring. Provides working knowledge of materials management, financial management, and food and non-food procurement. The student will demonstrate the ability to interpret financial data, determine costs of operation, prepare a budget, write menus, and write specifications for equipment. Field experience hours in food service required. Prerequisite: NUTR 325.
NUTR 428 Medical Nutrition Therapy II (3-0-3), fall only. Provides working knowledge of pathophysiology related to nutrition care, medical nutrition therapies, assessment of need for adaptive feeding techniques, and nutritional pharmacology, including interpreting medical terminology and laboratory parameters, determining nutrient requirements, and calculating therapeutic diets and enteral and parenteral formulations. Prerequisites: BIOL 292/294; CHEM 112/114 or 132/134; NUTR 322, 323, and 425.
NUTR 429 Medical Nutrition Therapy III (1-5-3), spring. Provides working knowledge of health behaviors, ethics of care, reimbursement issues, health care policies, and quality improvement methods. The student will demonstrate the ability to complete comprehensive nutrition assessments, measure, calculate, and interpret body composition data, make appropriate nutritional recommendations, counsel patients concerning nutrition, and provide appropriate documentation. Field experience hours in a clinical setting required. Prerequisite: NUTR 428.
NUTR 450 Capstone in Dietetics (2-0-2), spring. In-depth study of domains of the Registration Examination for Dietitians. Students assess their learning needs and research topics to enhance critical thinking and application skills in the domains of Food and Nutrition, Clinical and Community Nutrition, Nutrition Diagnosis, Education and Research, Food and Nutrition Systems, and Management. This course should be taken the spring before graduation. Prerequisite: Senior standing in the NDPD concentration of the Nutrition major.
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I've worked on *nix environments for the last four years as a application developer (mostly in C).
Please suggest some books/blogs etc. for improving my *nix internals knowledge.
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Here are some suggestions on how to understand the "spirit" of Unix, in addition to the fine recommendations that have been done in the previous posts:
If you want to become a power user, there is nothing better than O'Reilly's "Unix Power Tools" which consists of the collective tips and tricks from Unix professionals.
Another book that I have not seen mentioned that is a fun light and education reading is the "Operating Systems, Design and Implementation", the book from Andy Tanenbaum that included the source code for a complete Unix operating system in 12k lines of code.
You definitely want to read Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment by Stevens. Don't let the Advanced title scare you away, its very readable.
Books/sites/manuals that I am using frequently:
While studying linux kernel internals, you usually need to learn how hardware works and what hardware provides in abstract manner. Intel has great manuals for this.
If you need to study about operating systems' design and concept, I suggest following book: Operating System Concepts.
O'REILLY Linux Kernel in a Nutshell
Linux Systems Programming or any other book by Robert Love (these are all O'Reilly books):
Well, for BSD Unices, there's The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System, parts of which are now apparently available for free at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/design-44bsd/
Linux Device Drivers is another good resource. It would give you another way to get into the inner workings. From the preface:
To get a sense of the why and what the kernel is meant to support, have a look at The Art of Unix Programming by Eric Raymond. It takes things at a fairly high, philosophical level, but it would go well with the nitty-gritty details of other books.
I agree with all the others and I have to say that Stevens' APUE (I have the second edition) is a classic. I would also like to add that Eric Raymond's The Art of UNIX Programming ranks right up there with Stevens on my list.
May I suggest the following two books as well (besides the others):
I have referred the first one extensively (If i had better memory, and had more time, I would know a lot more than I do now; but that's another story). I am currently reading the second one.


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The torah has these two Posukim right next to each other: Dovarim 4:2 has:
לא תספו על הדבר אשר אנכי מצוה אתכם ולא תגרעו ממנו לשמור את מצות ה׳ אלקיכם …
And 4:4 has:
ואתם הדבקים בה׳ אלקיכם חיים כלכם היום
What is the connection?
The torah has these two Posukim right next to each other: Dovarim 4:2 has:
And 4:4 has:
What is the connection?
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The Sipurno connects the Pesukim as follows:
Don't subtract- don't think that when the reason for the issur goes away that you can do the issur (like Shlomo haMelech)
Your eyes see what Hashem did concerning baal peor- the original plan of those that followed baal peor was only for z'nus. They rationalized that z'nus is only assure because it may lead to avodah zara, that won't happen to us.
Everyone that went after baal peor- to be mezane, Hashem destroyed. Not one of them was able to guard himself.
But you who clung to Hashem are all alive today- You used your chochmah to guard from avoda zara (by not rationalizing the mitzva)
Reb Bunim from Psheischa answers that if you look in the world you will see the people empty of Torah, (that is those who do not study - that means they are not 'דבקים בה) are the ones who have added to the Torah. They have extra Chumros to show the world that they are holy. It is those that study, who live the regular life, who do not need to come on to additional Chumros to prove to the world their holiness. Hence he says one Posuk is placed next to the other to illustrate this point.


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(Riyadh, Saudi Arabia) - The Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency (SAMA) has begun to implement a major technical program to train judges and investigators in how to deal with the many complicated issues surrounding terrorist financing and illegal money laundering.
The program is part of a concentrated effort by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to crack down on the illegal use of private funds to assist terrorist organizations.
As part of this ongoing effort, SAMA's new program seeks to educate judges and investigators in all of the legal aspects of the issue of terror financing, including money-laundering methods and methods that suspects commonly use to exchange information, in order to make prosecution of those involved in such criminal activities more effective.


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The NYC Department of Education provides an on-line Directory of Charter Schools and announces new schools on-line.
Additional information about the charter schools in general as well as individual charter schools is available from the New York City Charter School Center.
Each charter school has their own unique admissions application process. Therefore, if you are interested in applying for admission to one or more charter schools, you must contact the school directly to inquire about its application, enrollment timeline and process. Once you've identified the school(s) to which you wish to apply, be sure to complete and submit a separate application for each.
The most up-to-date information on charter schools is available on the NYC Department of Education's website. Here you will find the Directory of NYC Charter Schools which includes individual school profiles and general information about the application process. Be sure to contact each school you are interested in for additional information about the admissions process and to schedule a tour.
Additional information, including an Enrollment FAQ is available from the New York City Charter School Center.
Remember: You are only guaranteed a seat in your zoned public school so it is important to visit the school to understand its strengths and challenges, learn how parents are engaged in the school, *and* apply during the stated time period.
Go to the school with your child to register. Be sure that your child comes with you and bring the following documentation:


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Event Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 - 2:00pm to 3:00pm EDT
Patient Navigation has been a buzz word for several years. HRSA-HAB SPNS has funded demonstration projects that examine three of the common navigation program types and this webinar will explore each of these three types of programs.
- The Ruth M. Rothstein CORE Center in Chicago, IL will present on their peer navigator model.
- Special Health Resources for Texas of Longview, TX will present on their social work navigator model.
- UNC Chapel Hill of Chapel Hill, NC will present on their nurse navigator model. The webinar will explore what each of these navigators does and how they operate.
If you have any specific questions you would like to have addressed, please mail them in advance of the webinar to [email protected].
See the TARGET Center's resources on patient navigation programs.
No pre-registration is needed, just enter the room as a guest at the time of this webinar.
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What are some of the best methods you've used for shipping beer (for trade, competition, gifts, whatever)? What are some packing materials / resources that are inexpensive but reliable? How many beers can you confidently put in one box?
I have not shipped beer anywhere yet, but I was planning on ordering some styrofoam shippers, and there are also pulp shippers which are a bit cheaper. It seems like a little extra overhead in cost, but I figure it makes more sense to pack everything safely as possible. They are made for wine but I figured i could just fill any voids with tissue paper or newspaper. It is also nice that they offer different sizes anywhere from 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, or 12. Here is a good article, talking about some of the legalities and things to think about when shipping beer.
I ship beer all the time and just use FedEx. I just wrap each bottle individually with bubble wrap (going around maybe 2-3 times) then place them in a box filled with packing Styrofoam or newspaper in a way so that none of the beers are touching each other or the box. Haven't hand any issues yet and I've shipped anywhere from a few bombers to 12 beers using this method.
It's also not illegal to ship beer using FedEx or UPS, just against their shipping policy. Just pre-print your label and drop it off at the FedEx store and they won't ask any questions.
Prepackage it at home, when they ask the contents I say non-perisable food items. I reuse boxes that ingredients were shipped to me in, and reuse the packaging. Shipping charges based on weight are killer though.
I was a member of a beer of the month club for a short while once. They shipped the beer in those styrofoam shippers that Jordan mentioned.
I like them and the beer always got to me in fine shape. I saved mine to use for shipping in the future.
I have also shipped beer with loads of bubble wrap and ziplock bags. Filled the rest of the box with newspaper. Works good.
Beers per box is only limited by the box size. But I try to keep it to less than 6 120z per box for weight reasons.


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I could use
getimagesize() to validate an image, but the problem is what if the mischievous user puts a link to a 10GB random file then it would whack my production server's bandwidth. How do I limit the filesize
getimagesize() is getting? (eg. 5MB max image size)
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Sept. 12, 2012 -- Illnesses in the ongoing West Nile epidemic increased 35% since last week, but the CDC says this worst-ever season probably has peaked.
"The worst part of the epidemic is behind us," Lyle Petersen, MD, director of the CDC's Division of Vector-Borne Diseases, said at a news teleconference. "We continue to believe this year's outbreak is the most serious to date since West Nile virus was discovered in the U.S."
While in the middle of a West Nile epidemic, the number of severe illnesses is the best indicator of how bad the season is. That's because nearly everyone with severe symptoms of "neuroinvasive" disease -- sudden encephalitis, meningitis, or polio-like paralysis -- is tested for the West Nile virus.
So far, there have been more than 1,400 cases of severe disease this year -- the most ever recorded by the second week of September. The CDC estimates that 150 to 250 times more people have actually been infected with the virus: 210,000 to 350,000 infections, some 20% of which will result in illness.
The majority of these illnesses are West Nile fever, but Petersen says only 2% or 3% of these cases are tested and reported to CDC. West Nile fever can be mild, but many cases last for weeks with lingering symptoms of fatigue.
In the worst previous West Nile seasons, 2002 and 2003, there were about 3,000 cases of severe disease, suggesting 450,000 to 750,000 infections and 112,500 to 187,500 illnesses. This year is expected to far surpass those totals.
Even though case counts may double or even triple before the 2012 West Nile epidemic is over, Petersen says the season likely peaked at the end of August. That's because it can take weeks for the CDC to get a case report.
Peaked, but Not Over
And the end of August is the usual seasonal peak for the mosquitoes that carry West Nile virus.
"As long as it stays warm, more West Nile transmission will occur," Petersen says. "In some areas of the country the outbreak may not have peaked yet. But in most areas, the epidemic probably peaked around the end of August."


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Busch Gardens Revamping Timbuktu for New Ride Debut
Published: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 at 2:40 p.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 at 2:55 p.m.
TAMPA | Busch Gardens in Tampa is revamping part of the park to coincide with the spring opening of its new 335-foot drop tower.
Officials say the park's Timbuktu area will become Pantopia. The jewel-themed area will have a renovated theater, new bakery and snack spots.
Busch Gardens president Jim Dean says Pantopia will celebrate the spirit of animals, welcome adventurers from the four corners of the earth, explore ancient lore and display fantastic architecture.
The renovation will mark the spring opening of Falcon's Fury, which park officials say will be the tallest freestanding drop tower in North America. It will take riders 300 feet into the air, tilt their seats 90 degrees forward and then drop them for about five seconds of free fall.
Falcon's Fury is replacing the Sandstorm ride.
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Washington, DC — New officers and members have been named to the Children's National Medical Center governing boards. Children's National includes several corporate entities, each with its own board.
"We appreciate the energy and guidance that all of our board members bring to Children's National," said Kurt D. Newman, MD, President and CEO of Children's National. "As Children's National helps kids live healthy lifetimes, we're pleased that our new and returning board members will be part of Children's efforts to re-imagine how we care for kids/"
New members of the Children's National boards and those with new roles, began their service with the new year, 2013. They include:
Children's National Medical Center Board
Children's Hospital Foundation Board
Children's Research Institute (CRI) Board
Safe Kids Worldwide Board
Children's National Health Network and Children's Pediatricians & Associates Board
Children's School Services Board
Children's National Advocacy & Public Policy, Inc. (CNAPPI)
Media contacts: Emily Hartman or Paula Darte at 202-476-4500.
Children's National Health System, based in Washington, DC, has been serving the nation's children since 1870. Children's National is a Leapfrog Group Top Hospital, Magnet® designated, and was ranked among the top 10 pediatric hospitals by U.S. News & World Report 2015-16. Home to the Children's Research Institute and the Sheikh Zayed Institute for Pediatric Surgical Innovation, Children's National is one of the nation's top NIH-funded pediatric institutions. With a community-based pediatric network, seven regional outpatient centers, an ambulatory surgery center, two emergency rooms, an acute care hospital, and collaborations throughout the region, Children's National is recognized for its expertise and innovation in pediatric care and as an advocate for all children. For more information, visit ChildrensNational.org, or follow us on Facebook and Twitter.
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I'd like to create an updated version of the network-manager-openconnect package in Ubuntu. Apparantely I need to get the latest package source:
bzr branch lp:~network-manager/network-manager/openconnect-ubuntu.head
Then what? The package seems to have a way to update itself from the latest upstream code using git. But how do I get it to do that?


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Ottawa recently held talks with Blue Jays about Double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats
"The Jays are very interested and keen on Ottawa and they always have been," Watson said. "They like this market. They portray themselves as Canada's team and I think it's a good fit for them to have a Double-A franchise in the second-largest city in the province ... Certainly in discussions I've had with a lot of fans in Ottawa, they think that without the Jays it won't be a success, because you have to have that high a profile and credible organization like the Jays involved."
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Robert Morris University
A monthly selection of media coverage of Robert Morris University during the previous month.
January 2013
A Pittsburgh Tribune-Review story about off-beat college courses featured an arts and math course taught by Heather Pinson and Monica VanDieren :http://triblive.com/news/education/3233913-74/students-class-classes#axzz2J7wYuZmd
Health care economist Stephen Foreman discussed the ongoing financial woes of the West Penn Allegheny Health System and its pending merger with Highmark:http://triblive.com/business/headlines/3234453-74/health-system-default#axzz2GoWICzHy
Foreman also wrote this op-ed in the Pittsburgh Business Times about health insurance exchanges: http://triblive.com/business/headlines/3307981-74/highmark-allegheny-penn#axzz2IKITFXkM
Scott Leff of the Bayer Center for Nonprofit Management explained the impact of the fiscal cliff on nonprofit organizations:http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/3226941-74/tax-charities-giving#axzz2HIj1Rsup
Leff also lent his expertise to an article about a controversial foundation supporting Steel Valley schools:http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-south/benefactor-puts-millions-into-steel-valley-schools-671182/
The Bayer Center's biennial survey of salaries for employees at nonprofits was covered by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Tribune-Review, and Pop City:http://tinyurl.com/be5occt
President Dell'Omo's swap with student Megan Herbstritt got some attention:http://moon.patch.com/articles/rmu-president-dell-omo-student-swap-places
That story also was featured on KDKA-TV but, alas, it is not available online.
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6 Awesome Hacks That Did Mind-Blowing Things With Old Games
Part of what makes video games unique is that gamers have the ability to mod their own better versions -- you'll never see a version of Die Hard where all the guns shoot dildos. But while we mostly hear about dumb mods that put ponies and Macho Man in Skyrim, it turns out that those are just little distractions from their main commitment, which is taking old games and rebuilding them from the ground up in amazing new ways. Like ...
#6. Grand Theft Auto IV, Now With Marvel Superheroes
via PC Gamer
Even though superhero movies have made so much money for Hollywood that they needed to invent new numbers, most of the non-Batman games based on those heroes are like the X-Men 3 of gaming. Maybe it's because most movie tie-in games are rushed by inexperienced developers, or maybe movie studios don't want to take risks with their franchises. Whatever the reason, there are almost no good official superhero games out there. "Official" is the key word; unofficially, well ... a picture is worth a thousand words.
None of them printable.
That isn't Photoshop, or an image captured directly from the part of your brain that processes your innermost desires. That's a screenshot from a Grand Theft Auto IV mod. A mod that gives you a complete working set of Tony Stark's armor. Now, we admit that a good guy like Stark isn't the most logical choice for a game based on crime, but as a counterargument, we offer this screenshot of Iron Man drunkenly head-butting the sidewalk:
via PC Gamer
Or busting out some seriously sick break-dance moves.
Along with granting you the power of flight and the ability to pimp-slap pedestrians across an entire city block if they give you any lip, the mod gives you access to Iron Man's signature arsenal of lasers and missiles, which you can use to blow up half the city in about five minutes. Hell, you can get drunk and throw cars at the Statue of Liberty. Just think of it as Iron Man working out some psychological issues.
But for those of you who just aren't into Iron Man, how do you feel about the Hulk?
GTA X Scripting
You can throw cars, wield lampposts like baseball bats, jump high enough to land on helicopters, and even pluck rockets out of the air, all in the most realistic digital version of New York ever made. It's like someone turned the doodles in your elementary school notebook into a game. It even makes sense that the Hulk would be on a mindless rampage, especially after the terrible standalone movies he's had.
GTA X Scripting
Someone also made a mod where you can play as a giraffe. That has nothing to do with superheroes, but your day won't be complete until you watch a giraffe ride a motorcycle.
#5. The Gargantuan Elder Scrolls Mashup
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind is one of the greatest RPGs ever made, but it's not without its flaws. The combat is as awkward and frustrating as that time we got really drunk and tried to fight our shadow, and everyone and everything looks like it's been beaten with a +1 Shovel of Ugly.
Besthesda Game Studios
Nice tits, flatface.
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, meanwhile, looks gorgeous and is much easier to play, but it never takes players to Morrowind's Vvardenfell, one of the most fascinating and distinct lands in the series. It would be great if there was some way to combine the two, but the only way to do it would be to spend countless painstaking hours building the world of Morrowind into Oblivion, a task so dauntingly large as to be all but impossible. Naturally, a bunch of modders went ahead and did it anyway.
Morroblivion takes everything from Morrowind -- and we do mean everything -- and plops it into the world of Oblivion. All 9 square miles of Vvardenfell have been loving given a fresh coat of virtual paint. All the hundreds of quests are there for you to complete and then get annoyed by when you get stiffed on a decent reward. Every enemy you fondly remember is present and ready to be stabbed in the face.
TES Renewal
"Hey, it's been a while. How's it going? Uh, what are you doing with that sword?"
The mod is fully playable, and they've almost finished modding in Morrowind's two expansions as well. That alone is a staggering accomplishment by a group of talented and passionate people with way, way too much time on their hands. So we all know they didn't stop there.
We've mentioned before that Oblivion gave every single non-playable character a unique and intricate weekly schedule. The Morroblivion team gave all of the 1,210 characters they brought in their own schedules, too, because hey, why not? They're even working on voicing all 51,000+ lines of dialogue from Morrowind, because fuck going outside. If you're curious and can do a good Dark Elf voice, they're still holding auditions.
Besthesda Game Studios
Who sounds cooler, House Telvanni or House Hlaalu? You decide!
Sadly, even Oblivion is starting to show its age, and next to the gorgeous winter landscapes of the fifth game in the series, Skyrim, it doesn't look like much. That's why the same team is also working on moving Morrowind into Skyrim, because why take on one staggeringly large project when you can take on two? Presumably by the time they're done with Skywind, a sixth game will be out, and the whole thing will start over again.
TES Renewal
They're already porting Oblivion to Skyrim, because of course they are.
#4. Thousands of People Causing Utter Chaos in Just Cause 2
via eInfogames
Just Cause 2 is the game you get when you combine every action movie ever made with the rad stunts you used to do with your Hot Wheels. Wikipedia assures us that it has a plot, but we stopped paying attention to it the moment we saw this:
We'll wait while your boner subsides.
That's a player shooting a motorcycle into the sky, jumping on it in midair, and totally nailing the landing. And that's just one of the countless stupidly awesome things you can do in the game. Just check out one of the many montages that feature everything from jet burnouts to speedboat back-flip combos. But even ramping your car off a runway, then climbing out of it and jumping into the cockpit of a jet can get boring when you're always doing it by yourself (it's kind of like masturbating). That's why a group of modders decided to introduce multiplayer to the formerly single-player game. Now, just how many players are we talking here? Two? A dozen? A hundred?
Of course it's not a hundred. That would be silly. No, we're talking thousands. Yes, these guys took a game designed solely to give one person as much freedom to blow shit up as they could and invited 2,500 of their closest friends to join. We'd suggest that it's a meta-commentary on how ridiculously over the top the original game was if we could stop watching the trailer.
Square Enix
Just watching this doubled the size of your biceps.
It's not even a game so much as it's the closest humanity has come to encapsulating the abstract concept of chaos. You can do everything from skydive with a few hundred people who are all shooting at each other ...
Square Enix
An academic study of how gravity affects varied bodies.
... to participating in a violent 74-man limousine race through an airport.
Square Enix
"Gotta get there three hours early just in case, bitches."
It barely qualifies as a game, really -- there are no objectives or rules, and you'll find yourself getting killed constantly. That would ruin other games, but somehow it just makes this mod even more awesome. The frustration of constantly dying is worth it for those moments when you launch a boat off a blimp and crash it into a plane that's about to take off.
Most mods aren't offered any support by game developers, and in some cases the developers even try to shut mods down. The developers of Just Cause 2, however, took one look at a picture of 2,000 people surfing fighter jets into an active volcano and realized that it would be a crime against humanity to stand in their way. So they gave the mod their blessing, which means it got an official release through Steam, where you can buy it for the modest price of free.


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Two area men have been jailed at the City-County Jail in Carmi on felony battery charges following two separate incidents in Grayville.
Kyle M. Jones, 25, who listed a Mt. Carmel address but has been staying with family members in Grayville, was arrested around 11:33 p.m. Tuesday on a preliminary class 2 felony charge of aggravated domestic battery.
A Grayville Police Department incident report said Jones had been staying with his sister in Grayville, Jessica McGarvey, 27, and her husband, David T. McGarvey Sr., 64, at their residence in the 200 block of East South Street.
Jones allegedly came home drunk and was confronted by David when Jones allegedly held his forearm to McGarvey's neck and shoved him against a wall. Jones fled the residence and was caught a short distance away by a Grayville police officer.
The report said Jones struggled briefly with the officer but was taken into custody and transported to the jail in Carmi pending the setting of bail.
Vincent W. Robinson, 42, Grayville, was arrested around 8:41 p.m. Wednesday on a preliminary class 2 felony charge of aggravated domestic battery.
A Grayville Police Department incident report said Robinson is accused of being involved in an altercation with his ex-girlfriend, identified as 31-year-old Daye E. Dial, also of Grayville.
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My name is Spenser, I am an ECE undergrad at Baylor and my group is trying to make a data acquisition system for the solar power system on the roof of the engineering building. We are thinking of using a SheevaPlug as the heart of the system. Its main goal would be to take in serial data and store it in a database. Furthermore, we would like it to host a PHP based website that will let us visualize the data. My questions are as follows.
1.) Does this version of Linux support usb FTDI devices (USB to Serial)? I know that Ubuntu on my laptop supports it but will the stock kernel on this device support them.
2.) I have heard problems about SD cards dying out very quickly in SheevaPlugs. Is it wise to store important data on SD card?
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I never tried the USB-serial with the original kernel, but it's very easy to upgrade to one of the pre-compiled kernels provided here on this forum.
My primary file system is on an SD-Card. I have zero problems with it. I think some people have simply encountered defective cards. That or a bad brand. People use SD cards for professional photography where they can't afford to lose a photo due to a memory failure, SD cards don't normally fail.
Sounds like a cool project you're working on, I've been looking into finding a small (30watt or so) solar panel to keep a single SLA battery charged so I can run my Sheeva/Router/&Cable modem completely off-grid.
If you publish any info about your setup online, I'd be interested in reading about it.
SheevaPlug - 8gb class 4 SDHC primary drive, 4tb 3.5" media drive, Debian Wheezy, nginx, Samba, Shorewall
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Quote from: Spenser309 on January 20, 2010, 08:53:51 AM
2.) I have heard problems about SD cards dying out very quickly in SheevaPlugs. Is it wise to store important data on SD card?
Mine's been in use for 6 months with no problems. You should always have backups of your data, though (which is not specific to SD cards on Plugs).
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Does this version of Linux support usb FTDI devices (USB to Serial)? I know that Ubuntu on my laptop supports it but will the stock kernel on this device support them.
Like the others here, I didn't let the default kernel last long enough to know this. I'll be receiving another plug in the next two days. I'll test this and report back.
I have heard problems about SD cards dying out very quickly in SheevaPlugs. Is it wise to store important data on SD card?
If this is a major concern, you could use a small (<<100Gig) rotating media attached and powered via USB instead of, or to augment, the SD card. For example, I currently use an 8 Gig SD card (root FS and applications) and a USB attached 32 Gig SSD (music only) to serve all my music via a plug.
The majority of the equation of how long flash (built-in, SD, attached via USB, what ever) will last is how often a particular flash sector goes through the erase/write cycle. If wear leveling algorithms are used in the FS or the device, this concern can be reduced dramatically. Using other methods (aligning partitions on sector boundaries, choosing "smart" cylinder/head/sector and partition size values, etc) can also help a lot.
You say you'll be writing the data to a database. Will this database be on the plug or somewhere else on the network? If it will be somewhere else, the wear on the plug's media could be minimal. If the database is on the plug, are you going to use a "standard" database or one of the ones designed for embedded systems? Most embedded database systems can be optomized for fewer writes to help with flash life.
EDIT: I just tested my FTDI based USB to Serial converter on a "raw" plug and though the drvicr was rcognized (I got new USB stuff in /dev) I don't see a /dev/ttyusbX device. Therefore, I can't say it works with the original kernel and modules.
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I guess I'll be rebuilding my kernel. Luckily this isn't the first time. Used to work for an embeded Linux company.
SD for storage is still on the table.
About, the embedded databases. Which databases are available and free (beer and speech)? I'll admit I haven't done a google search yet, but I'd like your input as to which ones work well and can be used with the PHP and C languages.
We have not decided if the DB will be local (SD) or remote (don't want to deal with sysadmins to much). However, we know we want to use some network storage for the export files so we may have the ability to host the data base on NFS/SMB. Performance wise we should be fine as the readings only come in every 5 min or so.
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Warning: The following is a bit "stream of consiousness". My blood sugar is low and this is what happens. Sorry.
Another possible topology is: One plug outside accepting the serial data with only an SD card and a second plug inside handling a USB attached rotating media for the DB. The outside plug acquires the data and sends it inside to be stored. This would allow you to use mysql, SQLite or some other free and small DB/SQL engine inside (no "elements" problems) on rotating media (no wear problems). I believe PHP and C have SQL bindings so if you get a DB with an SQL interface, they should be integratable. (<-- is that a word?
On the embedded DBs, one of the projects I worked on in the past used an in-memory/persistant store hybrid data base much like
McObject's eXtremeDB Fusion
. It was not free. If you think their products may be what you want, try contacting McObject. They MAY allow you a single reduced rate or free "educational" license. It never hurts to ask.
If your data only comes in once every 5 minutes, that figures out to 12/hour or 288/day.
That is 3472 days or ~9.5 years before an SD with 1,000,000 write cycles life time would fail.
I'm thinking you will graduate, or at least be long gone, before this fails. What do you think?
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1) In the default globalscale plug install, ftdi and pl2303 modules are missing; the first accounts for 75% of USB serial devices, and the second accounts for 20% of USB serial devices. The odds are good that it won't work.
2) But the plug installer neatly fixes that by installing a new kernel that supports them. It's worth noting that the ionics plug comes with working versions of both those modules.
3) I actually wrote an ftdi->pty userland proxy using libftdi. It's part of
. If you download and build it while libftdi-dev is installed, you'll find a program called "obdftdipty" that connects to your FTDI device, and opens a posix pty; you don't get quite as much control as you do with a "real" /dev/ttyUSB0 device, but you can communicate just fine.
Protip: Ubuntu 9.10 has [or had, I haven't checked recently] a badly broken ftdi kernel module; my userland proxy works around that, too.
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I'm going to use an Arduino for data acquisition and control and would like to be able to load new firmware from the embedded system. I am unfamiliar with the difference between a pty and a tty, will a pty give me the ability to reset the Arduino from the embeeded system and load new firmware?
I really like your obdgpslogger program, it looks very interesting and I may have to try it after I finish this project.
Thank you for your help and I appreciate the input.
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Basically you'll have the ability to send and receive data [ie, "echo reset > /dev/pts/5", "dd if=/dev/pts/7 bs=1 count=5" and similar], but you won't be able to change terminal settings on the device ["stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 ispeed 115200 ospeed 115200" or similar]. For example, speed cannot currently be set on the fly; obdftdipty connects at a specified speed and you can't change it.
If you reset and upload firmware to the arduino via regular commands, you should be ok.
All this isn't to say that using ftdi_sio isn't a technically superior solution, you get all the control that's possible by using a "real" driver as opposed to my mickey-mouse userland proxy, but... the proxy works great for my needs.
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too many immigrants would be coming in and not enough jobs to support everyone, and not to mention the crime rate will go up because of them. Look at the scandinavian countries and Australia that have strict border control and they're the happiest places in the world.
Australia has strict border controls?? Are you kidding me? The only border control Australia has is a natural one (i.e. ocean), and even then anyone who wants to leech free stuff off the Australians only needs to set out from Indonesia towards Christmas Island and the Australian navy will come pick them up.
...Happiest places in the world?
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Educate me, if you know so much.
I want to know you more =).
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Okay well besides Australia what I'm saying is true and if there were no borders it would be chaos
You have no reasoning.
Tell me why there would be chaos if national borders were ignored.
Oh yes i forgot, people born in mexico and people born in united states are 2 totally different types of humans and should not be mixed up whatsoever.
You sound like a racist liberal conservative lizard.
Immigrants are self-interested like the rest of us and go to where they believe they have better opportunities. That's why a lot of Mexican immigrants are leaving the U.S. for their home country rather than staying.
I'm actually inclined to agree, not for the same reasons, but just because the citizens of a country under a private law scenario would have the legal authority to expel any immigrants. Under statism the infrastructure, that would be provided privately, is provided by the people and so transitively belongs to them. They should have the authority to keep immigrants out if they don't want them. Employers often have the advantage of encouraging immigration to lower labor costs even if the residents of the country don't want that to happen.
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A family friend of ours, staunch leftist, went to Scandinavia and was dissapointed that everyone there was unhappy :P
But anyway, just because there would be open borders it doesn't mean that every person would come to the US. Furthermore, just because Scandinavia is (supposedly) better than the US and happens to have closed borders it doesn't mean that it is better because it has closed borders. Using that logic, we should remove minorities from the US to achieve better standards of living just because Scandinavia doesn't have many non-white people.
Jargon - even then, I'm not sure there would be chaos.
Either way, MML, what do you care? You mean we should deny the chance to poor people abroad to become wealthier?
Yeah I don't think there would be chaos, but I do think that the citizens of a nation have the right to determine the character and quantity of their population via property rights.
So a nation's happiness is determined by it's hetergeneous nature?
By that logic, North Korea is that happiest nation on Earth.
Well look at blacks that wherever they go crime rates go up and same with hispanics. Someone said north korea well they're just stupid anyway, just look at african countries too.
Someone said north korea well they're just stupid anyway, just look at african countries too.
Someone said north korea well they're just stupid anyway, just look at african countries too.
do you even read your own fucking posts, or jsut put whatever down just to talk?
Well look at blacks that wherever they go crime rates go up and same with hispanics. Someone said north korea well they're just stupid anyway, just look at african countries too.
Wow I'm not trolling, it's true. Crime rates go up where more blacks are and look at the muslims always trying to bring their religion to places like in the UK.
Wow I'm not trolling, it's true. Crime rates go up where more blacks are and look at the muslims always trying to bring their religion to places like in the UK.
Even if those statistics are true, I think it would be morally wrong to punish the individual because of the supposed behavior of the collective. Immigrants who want to enter a country in order to work are a boon to society. 'Illegal' immigrants in the U.S., for example, take on jobs that our own citizens no longer want. We should be grateful for them.
There is some truth here, but with this said it's mainly the cause of states to begin with. I think that there could be such a massive influx that it could cause some problems, but they could be dealt with fairly readily simply through free market employment. Most of the people coming over would be such unskilled labor that most natives of the U.S would be very well off because as unskilled labor floods into the country, even moderately skilled labor increases in value because new skilled jobs are needed to manage the increase in output. With truly mass immigration, a bigger problem might actually be the deflation that would be caused in the midst of all of this.
Anyway, any changes like this would, at most, be temporary, and if everyone did this then there would be mostly slight increases in everyone's population. More importantly you're committing a really grave fallacy in your first post. Also a more genuine point would have been income and crime rate (rape is... All too common in Sweden) which you do not reference much in the OP
As for crime rates, you could argue this is in large part because of the poor educational system and employment opportunities for many immigrants, which could be dealt with in a more effective manner in an anarchist society for reasons mentioned elsewhere... I should also mention that if you're going to talk about immigrants being more likely to commit criminal acts then some would point to that whole... Racialist argument that you recently spoke out against
Also, MMMF, I think that you have a genuine desire to learn here, but I think a much better way to do this would be to be non-confrontational and simply pose a question or ask how people would respond to the argument. The way you are doing it now looks like you're flamebaiting, because you make statements and then don't back them up very well. If you're trying to learn, then ask questions, if you're trying to argue for something then provide intelligent, reasonable, and somewhat indepth arguments, not short statements which occasionally run into some fairly obvious logical holes.
We can make cheap and dirty labor automated so we don't need immigrants.
Also someone brought up rape in Sweden, well most of thos cases are Muslim men
lol at the notion crime rates go up where more black are. I have a feeling if we hopped in a tme machine we could probably find a lot of people who observed crime rates go up when warmongering whites arrived on the scene. Let's go rape, pillage, and plunder a few civilizations, enslave them, and then bitch about what terrible people they are. . .
hell we don't even need a time machine, let's ask Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc.
"We can make cheap and dirty labor automated so we don't need immigrants."
Then why does that labor pool have jobs? Why do Mexicans come here if it would be more cost effective to just mechanize their jobs?
Just because whites have been involved in conquering in the past doesn't change the facts of today. Blacks cause a lot of crime wherever they are
Do you really believe that LFOD? That American whites are still responsible for the actions of American blacks?
BTW does anyone find it kind of funny how we've just recently had a racially controversial thread and then this troll-poster just shows up and starts trying to coax some nice screenshots out of the woodwork?
I'm not racist, I'm just telling the facts
There is not a fixed quantity of jobs. Unemployment in excess of the normal "flux" (i.e. the people who are briefly unemployed simply because they are switching from one job to another) is always and everywhere a consequence of State intervention in the economy, most especially fixing the price of labor above the market rate: i.e. minimum wage laws. Absent such intervention, no amount of immigration would ever cause us to "run out of jobs." And anyway, labor is a valuable resource. A greater supply of labor is a good thing: just as a greater supply of copper, or oil, or arable land is a good thing. It means potentially more production --> cheaper consumer goods --> higher standards of living.
As for the comments on crime and the generally xenophobic tone, I don't know what to say....thas racis (but more importantly it's just stupid, has no basis in reality, etc).
Even if places with hispanics and blacks had more crime what would that matter if we are talking about immigration.
What if everyone in those crime ridden areas are legal immigrants or born in america?
Now what?
You now have no argument....
There is absolutely no incentive for illegal immigrants to commit crimes. Crimes will get them in contact with the state, and land them a higher chance of being deported or jailed.
You lay no reasoning or ground for any of your arguments.
You just spout your stupid bullshit at us.
It's not about illegal immigrants, it is about ethnicity. THe blacks and hispanics bring a lot of crime wherever they go
I don't believe anyone is responsible for anything but their own actions . . .
However, if you are going to shit on an entire race of people, incorporate them into a political body of second class citizenship because you do not believe they are equal, then treat them separate but almost equal for a century, set the law against them, etc. I find it entirely unreasonable to pass judgement on the race that has been on the receiving end of tyranny. Furthermore certain elitist whites appear to equally discriminate against all races and have no problem shitting on everyone so long as they can maintain their power and those bastards are going to have to find a new home other than the planet earth.
You guys need to get better at recognizing trolls. It can't get any easier in this case. No one is this stupid, and if they appear this stupid, it's because they're putting so little effort into their posts that they still qualify as a troll.
He's right. I knew kylio/missmapleleaf/et. all was a troll months ago. I think the word is 'poe'. I've seen atheists do this where they pretend to be religious, but normal religious arguments are so stupid anyway that it's sometimes difficult to discern if what they're saying is genuine or a parody.
Scandinavia has strict border controls? Have you heard of the European Union?
Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland have all got higher suicide rates than the US.
Norway, depression hits half the country.
Who cares about trolls. They are lucky I am not running the forum. Not only would I post their ip address but after I looked them up and found out who they are I would post their address, picture, and a bio. I like to think of them more like cochroaches, when you turn the light on they head for the nearest crack or crevice.
Scandinavia have STRICT border control? You are delusional....
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