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5 Mind-Blowing Facts Nobody Told You About Guns
After every mass shooting, the gun debate splits into two camps: One side says it easily could have been avoided if these maniacs weren't allowed to have guns; the other says it easily could have been avoided if each innocent victim had only gone through their daily lives in cover formation, armed like the space marines entering the giant murder womb in Aliens.
And that's pretty much the entire gun control debate, as far as the mainstream media are willing to cover. And that is a shame, because it leaves out all of the most interesting parts. Trust us, the longer you look into this, the weirder it gets. For instance ...
Note: Even though we ran this article last year, it's distressing how many of the points it raises still seem fresh and valid. It's like this conversation has stalled out, like people are purposefully trying to prevent research into this topic. And on the other side of the issue, the media is reporting spikes in Chicago gun violence, despite the fact that Chicago gun violence is actually down. We hope this Cracked Classic will give you a new, more sober perspective. Also we made some jokes. Hope that's cool. -Cracked
#5. Gun Owners Are Mostly Responsible, But Gun Companies' Ad Campaigns Are Fucking Insane
The world is no doubt full of level-headed gun owners who are all about safety and responsible ownership (Note: one of the authors of this article owns four guns, one of which he keeps up his sleeve in a spring-loaded apparatus). They scoff at ridiculous macho action movie fantasies, and they have never stuck a gun through the open fly of their pants and said, "Hey look, it's my gun dick." But gun manufacturers do not themselves appear to share their view.
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"We at Ruger find the gun dick extremely refreshing on hot summer days."
For instance, do you insecure males want to get your "man card" back? Then you need to buy a Bushmaster AR-15 assault rifle, according to renowned masculinity experts Bushmaster (as their ad campaign puts it, "In a world of rapidly depleting testosterone, the Bushmaster Man Card declares and confirms that you are a man's man").
"I haven't seen my penis in years, so this is comforting."
Wait, is that the same assault rifle the Newtown shooter used? It totally is! That's why they had to pull their "man card" campaign. In the aftermath of the shooting, these ads were forwarded around by disbelieving gun control advocates who seemed shocked to find that they existed, as if gun ads had been outlawed back when cigarettes stopped showing up in Sports Illustrated. It turns out that this is a pretty big blind spot in the gun control debate -- one whole side is made up of people who don't encounter gun ads in their natural habitat and therefore miss a big part of the picture. And that picture looks like this:
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Gunfitti is a major problem in many American cities.
Hell, they even do product placement. You know those newfangled first-person shooter games the kids play these days, like Medal of Honor: Warfighter, where they go online and shoot each other over and over again? No, we're not going to say the games cause violence (they don't -- we'll get to that in a moment), but each level in that game starts with a long list of guns you can load yourself down with ...
... and those are totally real guns you can buy in the real world -- you can go to the game's website to find out how. So, you can go into a match arming yourself with the Daniel Defense M4V1 and, if you like it, just go to the Medal of Honor website and find the link to Daniel Defense, which is listed among other proud partners like LaRue Tactical (slogan: "The Dead Center of Precision") and the McMillan Group ("Shoot to Win").
Well, you can't go to the website now -- they pulled that page after Newtown, for some reason. So our question is, what's the gun makers' line of thinking here? What audience are they selling to? What's the message they want that audience to take home? You have a game where teenagers are doing this ...
... and the gun manufacturers who sponsor the game come off like they're saying, "Hey, if you ever want to do something like this in real life, do it with a Daniel Defense brand M4 carbine!" We know that gun manufacturers aren't actively trying to turn kids into school shooters (at the very least, it's terrible for business and forces them to run less manly ad campaigns). And in the single-player mode, the players are using these guns to shoot terrorists instead of each other. But even then -- are they hoping kids will remember to buy that brand when hunting terrorists? Because if the players join the military, they're not going to shop for their own guns. The Army gives you one for free when you join. They actually get mad when you bring your own.
So what is the goal of that product placement? What is the "something like this" that they hope kids will use their product to do? What fantasy are the gun makers playing into here if the goal is to affect a purchase decision down the line?
"Machine guns are like wallet condoms: You'll be glad you planned ahead when you need one."
Maybe this can shed a little light on it. Gun maker Weatherby, Inc. sells a pump-action shotgun called the PA-459. What does "459" stand for, you ask? Is it the caliber? Is it the 459th iteration of their Pump Action line? Well, remember how rappers used to threaten to pull a "1-8-7" on each other instead of "murder"? That was a reference to the fact that homicide is covered by Section 187 of the penal code. Same deal! Except here, the "459" in the shotgun name is the code for "burglary in progress."
They're not selling it to burglars, obviously, but to people who fantasize about shooting burglars. You can find that gun in the "Threat Response" section of their website, where you can get everything from $500 home defense shotguns to $4,000 rifles promising "long-range, certified tactical accuracy." You know, in case you see your burglar coming from 500 yards away.
"I believe that all life is one, so technically anything I do is self-defense."
"What's wrong with somebody wanting to protect his family?" Nothing. And people do use guns to fight off bad guys (although nobody has any idea how often that happens, because the subject is so politicized, it's impossible to find statistics that agree). But how many of those same people who are willing to shell out used-car money on "home defense" firearms don't, for instance, bother spending 20 bucks to keep a working fire extinguisher or carbon monoxide detector in the house? That Bushmaster AR-15 that mass shooters keep using? It costs a thousand bucks, and bullets are a dollar each (and you need to fire a few thousand of those to get proficient with the weapon). So why not spend those thousands on an alarm system and better locks so the bad guy never gets into the house in the first place?
In other words, are they obsessed with security, or are they obsessed with the idea of getting to shoot some motherfuckers? Are gun manufacturers selling guns they think people will actually use, or are they selling a fantasy? Are they, in fact, filling an emotional need?
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"'Emotional need' sounds way classier than 'gun boner'!"
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I once heard a word, derived from Latin or Greek elements, construed to describe a person who has an obsession with being published. What word might that have been? For example, what would you call some who has an inexplicable need to blog?
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Someone who is obsessed with writing is a graphomaniac, from Greek graphein, "write", and mania, "madness":
To round it up, here's a link to the Wikipedia article on graphomania:
That being said, as far as blogs are concerned, how about blogomaniac? You probably won't find it in any dictionary (yet), but it is pretty much self-explanatory, and as a free bonus, it sounds and looks very similar to logomaniac, someone who is obsessed with words or talking, from Greek logos, "word".
Blogomaniac in RegDwight's answer is fine, but another option is blogaholic or blogoholic.
A person with an inexplicable need to blog might also be defined as having OCD, or someone who really lacks an otherwise constructive hobby. That said, at its core, blogging is merely writing in electronic form, so "graphomaniac" is a sufficiently good choice. Logomaniac wasn't in my MW dictionary, so I won't comment on it, except to say, please, everyone, let's not coin one more internet-centric term.

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Today, some of the kids picked out one pair of shoes for $20 or less at the Payless in Greenwood Mall.
One girl says her new ballet shoes will help her start a new hobby.
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I came across a few articles (e.g. here and here) with a list of "usability testing as a service" providers, and was wondering if it's so great, why doesn't everyone use it? Is there a clear list of pros and cons for using such services versus "traditional" methods?
It's pretty much and impossible question to answer - the list of tools you link to are very different and best used in quite different contexts.
For example Silverback is a great tool for folk doing on-site usability tests. If you've using a usability lab - probably a waste of time. Google Website Optimizer - great for cheap A/B testing. Not useful for anything else.
The above two tools aren't comparable in any useful way - and the same applies to much of the rest of the list ;-) Use the right tool in the right context. You might find the Remote Research book a good read http://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/remote-research/.
I guess the most general observation I could make is that there's a big difference in the kind of feedback you get from doing in-person vs remote testing, and even more if it's outsourced to a third party. The more you need good quality qualitative observational data - the more likely traditional in-person usability tests are going to be more useful to you.


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Hi guys, Just found this site (it seems awesome), and decided to make an account and begin to get to know the community.
A bit about me: I am a senior English major, who, up until this point had been very interested in writing professionally. Recently, however, I realized that what I really want to do is develop video-games. There's a variety of reasons for that desire, but first and foremost, I think video-games pose a potential evolution for the art of storytelling. There's so much potential it just kind of blows my mind. I really want to be a part of that evolution, what ever that means.
This change of focus has caused me to toss my self into the programming deep-end, and I've finally hit a point where all I can really do is ask for advice. So here are just a few of the questions I've run into so far:
1. I'm working on developing a game for my senior project (I have the design, story, and some preliminary art done). What I'm trying to figure out now, is where, and with what tools I should develop the game. It's a sort of hybrid 2d action game and traditional adventure-game. I've narrowed my search down to XNA, Unity 3.3, and Gamemaker 8. I've been teaching myself C#, so the first two have the benefit of being based upon that language, but I am already mildly familiar with how Gamemaker works, and making a 2d game would be pretty simple. The game that I want to make involves many variables that effect many different parts of the game world (even between different levels), and while I don't know enough to know if I am right in thinking this, it seems like XNA or Unity would have an easier time handling those kind of complexities than gamemaker would. What do you guys think? Which framework/engine would you recommend?
2. I'll be graduating in about a year and a half (I'm taking a semester off) with a bachelors in English. What I'm trying to figure out is where I should go after that. I've strongly considered pursuing a comp sci masters after that (building upon both what I've taught myself, and the electives I can take between now and then), even though I am way more interested in game design than I am game programming. I feel like the extra knowledge couldn't hurt. I'd love to look into a game design degree, but I'm just not quite sure how that will help me in the long run. I feel like getting a comp sci degree, and reading up on game design on the side might be more useful. But that said, I really don't know what I'm talking about, so what would you guys recommend I look into?
3. Ok, so the education question is out of the way, but how about a first job in the industry? I live in North Carolina, and I noticed that Insomniac has opening in their QA department. Is QA a good place to get my foot in the door? Or should I (continue to) search for an internship, if there are any available? also, as far as non-industry jobs go, what looks best on a resume?
Well that's really long, my feelings won't be hurt if you didn't get through it all, but if you did, I would love it if you could give me some advice and a bit of direction! Thanks in advance!
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2. Depends on what qualifies as "hurt." If you are going to have to pay off that extra education for another 10 years, I think that qualifies as "hurt."
3. Whatever happened to "the extra knowledge couldn't hurt"? (^_^) You applied that glib reasoning to a degree you're not passionate about but think you are expected to take, but not to something you are passionate about. Why don't you think about yourself, for once?
4. You keep saying "I feel." That's a college boy phrase. Stop "feeling" your way through life.
5. See my final point, below.
6. So make a decision grid. FAQ 70. List some options for what you might do next, then tally up each option's pros and cons.
7. You need to check out gamedevmap and gameindustrymap. Do research on all the companies in your area.
8. Read FAQ 5.
9. "It couldn't hurt" to do that, but it's not likely to get you far. Consider your resume/portfolio against those of your competitor applicants. Internships usually go to folks whose qualifications outshine yours.
10. Bad question. Just get the jobs you can get. Report job experience truthfully.
Don't try to live a life you imagine some hypothetical employer expects you to live. Life YOUR life the way you WANT to. If you're meant to go into games, your passions will lead you there naturally.
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Wow thanks Sloper, all of those things (especially the stuff you called me out on) are really useful, I'm going to work hard to not try to fit into what I think I should look like on paper. Thats a really good point, and something I really needed to hear.
I just started reading through your FAQ and I'm finding it really useful! Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to my thread, that means a lot!
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Oh man! sorry! I couldn't find your first name Tom (I didn't really look too hard, haha). I'll keep that in mind as well.
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I'm going to answer a few of the questions you asked. As far as XNA or Unity goes, it's kind of a personal preference. However, what platform do you plan on releasing this game on? Are you planning on making money off of the game or is it just strictly a senior project.
XNA wouldn't be a bad choice but I have heard about some annoyances with getting games onto the Xbox Live Arcade (if you're looking to release it on there). I feel like Unity would be your best choice, especially if you're going to release it onto a mobile device (If I'm not mistaken I think Unity has really simple ways to release onto Android and iPhones, I could be wrong though). And I'm not sure about Gamemaker, I have never used it and haven't heard to much talk about it, so I couldn't tell you there.
As far as your QA question goes, I have heard of a lot of people starting out in QA and working their way up. It would be a good starting job in the game industry, especially if there is an opening near you.
Lastly, take the advice from tsloper, he knows what he is talking about. Live your life the way you want and not what you think it should be. Also, keep a positive attitude. Job hunting is tough in any industry and can be overbearing at times, keep applying and keep your head up!
P.S. Tsloper, excellent website. Offers excellent advice, so thanks and good job!
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I'm a fan of Unity. The amount of online support/tutorials/examples etc make it a fantastic engine to learn from scratch. Also, the flexibility to be able to create games for PC, iOS, XBOX etc. is a great benefit of the engine.
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I hope this is a valid question to ask here... but knows anyone a better spam protection than reCAPTCHA? We've now using reCAPTCHA for some time but got now the situation that obviously more and more spam comes through. Is there any better but still more or less user friendly spam protection you can recommend? It can be just a concept or also a (free) service.
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One alternative to CAPTCHA and less intrusive with better UX is the honeypot method. It's rather simple: you create an input field in the HTML that you hide with javascript. You then check on the server side whether it was filled in or not, if left empty the visitor is human, if filled in a bot.
The reason it works is because javascript is still too computationally expensive for spambots to use (spam is about quantity not quality) so they don't bother parsing it. Originally CSS was suggested to hide the field, however many spambots do parse CSS to detect hidden elements on a page as it's not that expensive.
A friend of mine who told me about the method reported so far a 100% success rate in protecting his sign-up forms using this little neat trick.
I'd like to suggest you have a look at a new technology my company created. It's called "VouchSafe" and is available free at http://www.vouchsafe.com
We've created plugins for Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal, and PHPBB, or you can roll your own integration with our APIs for PHP and C#.NET.
Depending on your environment you could use Akismet too. It was created to fight blog comment spam.
I'm suggesting you cloudflare services, see http://www.cloudflare.com/features-security
I have the CloudFlare Free plan and it suit my needs perfectly, Fast DNS (geo), Caching and Threats blocking.
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That link shows all edits to the question.
The only exception are subsequent edits done by the same author within a grace period (5 minutes, if I remember correctly). Those are are collapsed and only the last of those subsequent edits will show up.
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5 Things That Are Apparently OK To Do in the Name of Sports
We're all Internet people here. As a Cracked reader in particular, you are no doubt a suave, considerate and popular person, but you probably have a "friend" who is socially awkward and a bit messy and has other habits frowned on by society.
Your friend should take up sports. Not because it will make them cooler, but because sports let you keep doing all those uncool things -- and more -- and you're immune from criticism. And unlike explaining away your purchase of a replica Frostmourne sword by saying you need it for LARPing, which just makes things worse, explaining away your goofy sports goggles by saying you're training for a triathlon magically makes the shame go away.
Actually you'd have to pretty much be an NBA MVP to get away with owning this shame-free.
I just found this out firsthand. Doing a 100K bike ride really opened my eyes up to what you can get away with. Suddenly, all of my bad habits were forgiven. Like ...
#5. Poor Fashion Sense
Have you ever noticed how all of the cool looking clothes in the world are made for someone other than you? Do you feel like people are smirking at your outfits behind your back? Have you given up, and now just wear track pants wherever you go? Well, I want to introduce you to a magical world where not only will no one judge you on your terrible fashion sense, but virtually all of those choices are made for you.
As I said, I participated in a bicycle race recently. Here's what I wore:
And nobody said shit. I was among hundreds of other cyclists, everybody was dressed this way.
Obviously team sports make you wear a uniform, but even the stuff you do on your own -- in my case, cycling -- completely removes all of those decisions since this is a world where function trumps all. As I've mentioned before, bike clothes are among the least flattering clothes in the world, and it doesn't matter. Someone wants to make fun of your neon yellow windbreaker? You can smugly explain to them it keeps you visible to traffic on the busy roads you ride. Anyone mocking your tight pants? You can point to your chain and all the other parts that can catch loose cloth. It's all done in the name of a bigger cause.
"I'm suffocating my balls to raise awareness for whooping cough, you asshole."
Sure, if you're participating in some kind of novelty race like I was (the all-women's Cinderella Classic) you might get roped into wearing some embarrassing team costume you can't easily explain away, like that ridiculous hat. But that thing hanging in front of my eye is a mirror (helps me see traffic behind me at all times) and that plastic tube hovering to the left is a water tube (from a CamelBak water reservoir, good for hands-free drinking). Both of which are convenient as hell.
I'd wear them all the time if allowed -- they'd be just as handy for keeping an eye out behind me while browsing the Internet at work or refreshing myself during a WoW raid. But the difference is that in those contexts, people will look down on you for it.
Not socially acceptable.
Take those items on the road for something athletic though, and you're golden.
#4. Pigging Out
You know how sometimes you just eat a whole pot of macaroni and cheese at one sitting? And how people look disapprovingly at you, especially if you're eating it with your hands? Tell them you're "carbo-loading."
All endurance athletes take care to "carbo-load" before an event, mostly with healthy things like bananas and sandwiches -- or if you see this as a free pass to eat tasty food (like me) -- pizza and cupcakes. And maybe a banana. All this takes a while to digest, so you want to start getting it in to your tummy the day before, so that the cupcake molecules will be floating around in your blood the next day when you need them.
Saying, "I'm about to (run/ride/swim) 60 miles!" silences all criticism. Athletes know that when you're exercising for hours and hours straight, you need a pretty abnormal amount of carbohydrates to keep up your energy, and if you run out, you "bonk," where your muscles just quit on you.
The cyclists I talk to dread the "bonk" more than anything -- I heard a lot of people express worries about bonking and none about falling, which is a little weird when they go down twisty roads shared with cars at 40 miles an hour, but whatever. To prevent it, not only do you carb-load starting from the day before, but you also keep eating during the ride.
In other words, you wind up on the eating schedule a lot of us would be on all the time if society and biology would allow it. The goal on something like a long ride is to keep eating healthy crap as long as you can -- nuts, fruit, bars, etc. -- until your stomach basically quits on you, which can happen after many, many miles. At this point things actually get more awesome -- you just shove sugar down any way you can.
Candy -- special expensive candy made by nutrition bar companies. And gels -- which basically look (and sometimes taste) like little travel packets of toothpaste.
It really isn't as bad as it looks.
It's the same deal with any long endurance event, though cycling doesn't usually jiggle your innards around the same way, say, running a marathon does. That means that at least for your pre-ride meal and at your lunch break, you can eat almost any kind of food you want and not worry about throwing up ... or about disapproving looks. I can eat a cheese steak and no one can look at me sideways because I AM RIDING 100 MILES GODDAMMIT.
This map says I can eat a cheese steak if I want to.
Having all that fat in my stomach doesn't really do me a lot of short-term good, but think about the morale boost! It's the intangibles, man.
#3. Ignoring Norms About Hygeine and Propriety
Are you tired of society always telling you when and where you can expel bodily fluids, like the guy who peed on my friend's shoes in a crowded club? Once again, sports to the rescue!
"Damn the man and his fascist 'bathrooms.' "
Society has rules about things like snot -- namely that you're not supposed to wipe it on your hands or your clothes. But if you've ever watched a football game that's being played in the winter, you know that shit goes right out the window as soon as you strap on a uniform. Those guys will just bend over and blow snot all over the ground, right on camera. Marathon runners leak bodily fluids (and worse) mid-race, and you can bet Michael Phelps doesn't get out of the pool when he needs to take a leak.
I found that snot is the big issue with cycling (it's so common you can Google "bike runny nose" and get many pages of results), and when you're on a long-distance bike ride, you often don't have anything to blow into, especially if you don't have time to get off the bike.
No. Some things are too silly even for cyclists. Also it's not very aerodynamic.
That's actually why most bike gloves come with a terry or fleece patch along the inside of your forefinger and thumb -- precisely to wipe your snot on.
Soft, absorbent terry cloth ... just needs aloe.
If that's not enough for your prodigious nose fountains, there's a product called Snot Spot you can put over your gloves for more wiping power.
So nobody can really fault you for rubbing snot all over your gloves unless they expect a limo to drive up next to you and hand you Kleenex like a bottle of Grey Poupon -- and then take it back afterward. On the other hand, nobody who knows this will shake your hand after a race.
The other bit of propriety you can discard is where you pee. Hey, if you're riding for five to 10 hours, you'll have to pee sometime, right?
It's not like wearing a wet suit, where you can just pee whenever you damn well please.
Most events set up rest stops at appropriate intervals along the way. But if your bladder is a jerk, like mine, you will pee at the rest stop -- an unimpressive amount -- and then 15 minutes later you suddenly have a gallon in your bladder. This is a common medical condition known as "mean bladder." That's why sooner or later, everyone's got to stop being gentlemanly or ladylike and just go whiz in a field.
If you're a dude, you don't even have to get off your bike.
Sure, you might have to ride 60 miles before you get to pull out your excuse (and your genitals), but it'll all be worth it when you can piss on some farmer's fence and then throw your hands up innocently when he gets upset, like, "What else could I do?"
Pee freely at a family BBQ and you're a weird asshole. Do it on a ride, and you're hardcore and focused.
And after you pee -- whether in a field or a port-a-potty rest stop -- odds are there's not likely to be plumbing, which means that unlike in a normal public restroom, you don't have to guess who's washing their hands, because you know that nobody is washing their hands.
But if anyone turns down your high-five, they'll look like an asshole. Because these aren't regular pee hands they would normally shun. These are a winner's pee hands. HIGH FIVE THE MAN.


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Clothespin Can
- Craft-type clothespins (without springs)
- Empty coffee can
- Show your toddler how to place the clothespins around the rim of a coffee can.
- You can also cut a small hole in the plastic lid of the can and have her drop the clothespins through the hole. She'll like the sound they make as they hit the bottom.
- Store the clothespins in the covered coffee can when not in use.
More on: Activities for Toddlers
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Greendale High School reports four pertussis cases
Greendale - Four cases of pertussis, commonly known as whooping cough, among high school students have been reported to the village Health Department by the school district.
School Nurse Kathy Andrzejewski said the district may see more cases.
"The district is working with the Greendale Health Department to alert parents of the situation and help staff members contain the spread of the contagious disease," Superintendent John Tharp said. "We are monitoring the situation and will continue to work with the Health Department to ensure that parents and the community remain informed."
Pertussis is an upper respiratory illness that is spread when an infected person coughs or sneezes. Symptoms usually occur within a week of exposure, but sometimes take as long as six weeks to appear, according to the Centers for Disease Control.
The district has instructed teachers to refer students with pertussis symptoms to the nurse's office. The district's custodians have been instructed to ensure that hand sanitizer is available and that common surfaces are disinfected.
Authorities identify man, 91, struck, killed by car in Bay View
Witnesses say a 91-year-old man had just exited a bus and was trying to cross a major road in Bay View when he was struck and killed Wednesday afternoon, according to authorities.
The Milwaukee County medical examiner's office identified the man Thursday as Howard P. Roepke. Roepke was struck shortly before 5 p.m. in the 1000 block E. Oklahoma Ave.
Roepke apparently was heading to Unity Lutheran Church for a free meal the church offers to seniors, according to a medical examiner's office report. He was crossing the street, using a walker, and he wasn't in the crosswalk when he was struck by a Hyundai Sonata, according to the report.
The driver told police that he didn't see Roepke until the car collided with him.
Brookfield East's Alec James named NOW Football Player of the Year
NOW All-Suburban Football Player of the Year for 2012 after leading his team to a school-record 10 victories and a trip to the third round of the WIAA playoffs.Brookfield East's Alec James has been voted the
James, who also is the Wisconsin Football Coaches Association Player of the Year, will play on scholarship next season at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.
Wauwatosa West's Matt Good was named the NOW Coach of the Year.
You can see the complete team, player bios, a timeline of All-Suburban history and more at the 2012 All-Suburban Football Team page.
Police investigate tire slashings in Oak Creek neighborhood
Oak Creek - Tires were slashed on at least six vehicles in an area bounded by 11th Avenue, Puetz Road and Highway 32 between midnight Sunday and early Monday morning.
According to the Oak Creek police report the following tire-slashing incidents were reported to have happened that night:
Both driver-side tires were slashed on a Honda in the 3200 block of East Stonefield Drive.
Four tires were slashed on a van at Grace Lutheran Early Childhood Center, 3381 E. Puetz Road.
Three tires were slashed on one car and two rear tires were slashed on a second car at Lake Forest Apartments.» Read Full Article
Caller warns worker Oak Creek grocery store is about to be 'shot up'
Oak Creek - An anonymous caller threatened to kill an employee at Pick 'n Save, 2320 W. Ryan Road, Sunday, while warning that the store would be "shot up," according to an Oak Creek police report.
The report states:
At 2:54 p.m. Nov. 25, an employee received a phone call from an unidentified male who stated: "This is an officer. My boss told me to call you. I'm supposed to tell you that your store is going to get shot up. Listen to my directions, sit in the corner or I will kill you."
After the caller hung up, the employee called her manager, who then called police. Officers searched the store, the parking lot and surrounding business parking lots but did not find anything suspicious.
The manager called the phone number the call had originated from, but no one picked up the phone and there was no answering machine.» Read Full Article
Man says he was robbed while checking tires
Oak Creek - A 47-year-old Random Lake man told police he was robbed by a stranger after he pulled over on College Avenue to check his tires shortly after 11 p.m. Nov. 26.
According to the Oak Creek police report:
The man told officers he heard a squeak in his tire, which caused him to pull over in the 2500 block of West College Avenue. While he was checking his driver-side rear tire, an unidentified man walked up to him and said: "Give me your wallet. I have a gun."
The Random Lake man told police he pushed the man, and a struggle ensued. His wallet apparently fell out of his pocket. The thief grabbed the wallet and was picked up by a blue, four-door vehicle that pulled up next to them.
The Random Lake man followed the man's vehicle north on Interstate 94, but lost sight of the car in a subdivision near Martin Luther King Jr. Drive in Milwaukee.» Read Full Article
Woman struck by car during spat in Franklin Walmart parking lot
Franklin - A pedestrian was injured after a driver allegedly struck her with her car during an argument in the parking lot at Walmart, 6701 S. 27th St., Thanksgiving Day.
According to the Franklin police log:
The victim, a 43-year-old Cudahy woman, told police the accident began as an argument when a driver sped through the parking lot and almost struck her about 9:10 p.m. Nov. 22. When she yelled at the driver to slow down, the driver put her car in reverse and the two began to yell and swear at each other.
The woman stated the driver reached out and punched her in the face during the argument. She then continued to back her vehicle up and deliberately turn it toward her, knocking her to the ground and causing abrasions to her right hand and both knees.
Police questioned the driver, a 35-year-old Milwaukee woman, who said the victim and five other people began pounding on her vehicle. She said the victim stuck her head and hands inside her vehicle while yelling at her, causing her to be fearful for her 9-year-old son, and she admitted punching the woman in the mouth.» Read Full Article


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This might be the first chance you've had to look at your baby's tiny toes, scrunched-up legs, or fine head of hair. There may be traces of greasy vernix on his skin. Perhaps he has long, flaky fingernails that need trimming or a downy fuzz of hair called lanugo on his back. He's unique and gorgeous.
If your baby is awake, he may be hungry. At this stage, you're producing nutrient-rich colostrum, a fluid containing antibodies. Position him at the breast: he should open his mouth wide and take the entire areola, known as "latching on." Breast-feeding stimulates the release of the hormone oxytocin, which contracts the uterus. This can cause afterpains, more noticeable in second and subsequent births, which can feel like contractions. The only consolation is that with each contraction, your uterus-and hence your abdomen-shrinks back down.
If you're up to it, you might be ready for visitors, either at home or on the unit, to admire your baby. Don't let them tire you out, though.
Your baby's newborn checkups will take place when he is between 4 and 48 hours old. A staff pediatrician at the hospital will examine him from top to toe; listen to his heart, check his hips (and testes in a boy); and ask about the contents of his diapers.
In many hospitals, you can spend your first night as a new family together, since rooming-in with the baby is a common practice and new dads often sleep over. This lets the nurses see how mother and baby interact. If you need to get a few hours of uninterrupted sleep after a long or difficult labor, a nurse can collect the baby from you.
After a whirlwind of agony, ecstasy, and sheer hard labor, you need to rest when you can. If your baby is sleeping, fend off visitors, draw the curtains around your bed, or take the phone off the hook, and sleep.
Although you've had major surgery, you'll be encouraged to get up to get your circulation going. After an epidural, this will be as soon as you've regained the feeling in your legs. After a general anesthetic, you'll be encouraged to get up when you no longer feel sleepy, usually within an hour. You won't be able to shower yet, but your nurse or midwife can give you a bed bath to help you freshen up.
You'll probably feel very tired and sore, so ask for help with positioning your baby at the breast, and take pain medication when you need it.
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Wednesday morning, workers at Jackson's Orchard discovered an unwelcome surprise; a truckload of garbage had been dumped on the property.
Bill Jackson is the owner of Jackson's Orchard. He says, "We called the authorities, and we hope we can get this handled someway and end trash dumping because it's very unsightly, and we sure don't want trash dumped on our orchard."
Jackson went through some of the mail in the garbage and found it was all addressed to a WKU fraternity, Pi Kappa Alpha.
Jackson says, "They're gonna probably say that someone else did it. And that particularly I don't care. But someone has dumped a large truckload of trash here."
WBKO did ask the fraternity if they knew how the trash got there.
WBKO: All this mail has Pi Kappa Alpha on it, and we found your hazing rules. Do you know how it got there?
Pi Kappa Alpha: No.
WBKO: Is there anyone who might have played a prank against you?
Pi Kappa Alpha: There's a lot of fraternities on this campus.
Jackson says the University has been contacted, and he hopes whoever is responsible will correct the problem.
Jackson says, "I hope the fraternity involved will come out and clean this mess up and hope we can talk to them and help them understand that we don't want to be the city dump."
Due to this incident, Jackson says now they might have to lock up the orchard.
Jackson says, "We have talked about and thought about for a long time putting up a gate so that the orchard would be locked up at night. And this may force us to do that. I hate to do that. But, again, we don't want to be the city dump."


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: to cause (something) to end or no longer exist : to cause the destruction of (something) : to damage (something) so badly that it cannot be repaired
: to kill (an animal) especially because it is sick, injured, or dangerous
: to defeat (someone or something) easily or completely
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transitive verb
1 : to ruin the structure, organic existence, or condition of <destroyed the files>; also : to ruin as if by tearing to shreds <their reputation was destroyed>
2 a : to put out of existence : kill <destroy an injured horse> b : neutralize <the moon destroys the light of the stars> c : annihilate, vanquish <armies had been crippled but not destroyed — W. L. Shirer>
intransitive verb
: to cause destruction
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All the files were deliberately destroyed.
The disease destroys the body's ability to fight off illness.
The bomb blast destroyed the village.
The dog had to be destroyed since its owner could not prevent it from attacking people.
Origin and Etymology of destroy
Middle English, from Anglo-French destroy-, destrui-, stem of destrure, from Vulgar Latin *destrugere, alteration of Latin destruere, from de- + struere to build — more at structure
First Known Use: 13th century
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4 Oct 2012 11:53 AM #1
How do I build the custom EXT.js for my application including all components
I have build the all-classes.js & also the app-all.js from the SDK.
Standard Stuff was simple to do - Thanx Sencha for the SDK tool
sencha create jsb -v -a http://localhost:8080/[ApplicationRoot]/index.jsp -p app.jsb3
sencha build -p app.jsb3 -d .
Now how do I build the Custom ext.js file for my application???
How can I include all ux & requires into it.
5 Oct 2012 10:22 PM #2
It looks like you are using v2 (SDK Tools). The current version is Sencha Cmd v22.214.171.124 (at this moment).
In Cmd v3, there is no longer the need for a JSB file to maintain. The documentation has also been updated. The closest to what you might need is http://docs.sencha.com/ext-js/4-1/#!...and_app_single
You may be able to set up your JSP file to use the new compiler's page command which would make compiling your page down to use a single JS file very simple.
If you want more control over how the JS code is packaged, you can use the lower-level compiler commands.Don Griffin
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Picking up on some of the discussions recently, which religions are Avodah Zarah and why? How does that translate into our relationships with them?
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Well it's a question of which religions attribute G-d-like power to physical objects.
Most often it comes up in questions regarding prohibited benefit; for instance a few years ago there was concern that hair for wigs was coming from Hindu rituals. If Hinduism is "avoda zara", then that hair may be prohibited from benefit. (In this case I believe the conclusion reached was that Hinduism as practiced in India is considered avoda zara, but for complex reasons, the hair is not prohibited.)
I've heard different things about Buddhism, in our categorical worldview it may be avoda zara or it may in fact be atheism. (For the little I understand of Eastern practices, I'd assume Shinto rituals are less problematic still.)
Islam, the Bahai faith, Jainism -- all monotheistic, nothing to talk about.
Basically today it only comes up with questions of prohibitions such as entering a shrine, or if a ritual item is prohibited from benefit. Philosophically beyond that ... well our primary focus is on improving our own roles as Jews. It appears that good fences make good neighbors, to a degree.
One would have to look at Wikipedia or elsewhere to see if they worship One God (good) or intermediaries (probably avodah zara) or many gods (definitely idolatry). Some Eastern religions don't have a strong stance on the issue of God, so they may not be avodah zara, though many followers are likely atheists.
Islam is not avodah zarah. Hinduism is. Folk religions in Africa and elsewhere are mostly avodah zara. Buddhism is a philosophy with many varieties so it would depend. Shintosim seems to be avodah zara while Sikhism seems not to be.
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Bertie, just a short question, what steam features will FM12 utilise. Can we expect the usual steamwork achievements, or are we going to get steam cloud and further steamworks features such as a server browser as well? Stats tracking and such as well would be pretty nifty.
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i have steam and use it to play most of my games. I have never had any problems with it and regard it as a fantastic resource. It uses almost no resources and opens up a whole new community. Often you can find games on there at great prices and as an Australian i am sooo happy that steam have fm 2012 at $40 US which is about the cheapest price i could expect to find anywhere in Australia or on the internet. Already preordered!
Having said that i can understand how some people feel a bit funny about having to install another piece of software on their computers in order to play the game. All i can say to those who are wondering about steam is that for me and the vast majority of people steam is a really great tool and they just may get hooked on it if they get it..
I just got an achievement type thing pop up for submitting my 250th Steam support ticket. About the same issue :L Now sort it please Steam? Pretty please. *cries*
I think at this point SI is actually thinking(hoping rather) that people buy the game with steam rather than retail, and i wouldnt be surprised if retail was phased out in a few years... Just my two cents but it would be a smart business move.
Also pig, lost customers. What you and lazaru5? Yes, your 10 quid profit will be sorely missed. Dont think that this will impact sale numbers too much, it wont, if anything SI will make a bigger profit due to more sales over steam.
And honestly, lets all be grateful it isnt using GFWL, oh god that thing is dire.
You could predict them though, it all depends on the amount of retail vs steam sales, SI is definetly pushing for one of those... it isn't hard to figure out why either.I'm sure the people at Sega thought this through on the financial impacts before making this kind of decision. You and I won't know the specific effects till a couple weeks after FM12 is released at the earliest.
Neil Brock, you closed my thread! Where's the Poll? Can't that be left open or transferred? What's going on?
EDIT:Thank you Neil, does the poll not count as something different, or is it difficult to watch?I've left this long enough but can't see anything different being posted in there than the other thread. Am closing this, you can continue to discuss FM activation here - http://community.sigames.com/showthr...012-Activation
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Whilst the majority understand the reason why this is happening, some of the complaints are for the fact of having to install this software for just one game. Why do I need a new community, when this one does me fine, why do I need a library for my games when I only play FM, even sold my Xbox360 because I stopped going on it.
Steam maybe a great bit of software, I've never used it. If the activation method was just to go onto the SI website enter the Activation code, I think whilst there would still be a few moaners there would be nothing of this scale.
You remain optimistic, but i think there would still be complaints over anything other than a bog standard disk install(Surprised how people can handle CD-keys nowadays). And sort of online verification is a no no to a lot of people... you get used to it very easily though.
As to answer your question pigfacemonkeyman. You don't have to download anything, you do have to punch in a serial number however, each to his own on that. But i'd much rather have a program running idle in the background than have something in my disk drive, it's pretty much the same thing(And yes, CD checks do take time, arguably longer than steam takes to boot up in some cases). I'm seriously considering not even bothering to get an optical drive with my next PC, it's not required and the only thing it does is be obnoxiously LOUD.
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For DVD players, you do not need to download the various bits and bobs because they're sold hardwired. However, I have had to download new codecs for my laptop to deal with various different video formats. These codecs then do need to run constantly in the background. For example, I know that somewhere, K-Lite codec pack is running on my laptop.
I'd be interested to know how that thing was set up where if someone had a pirated copy of the game their Euro championship was turned upside down after they qualified. How can that be done without intrusively looking at the content of someone's computer?
Personally I know a few people who have pirated it, and I also know they talk about being sick of the bugs, the bell and whistle "updates" rather than new games and so on. I also know however that they pirate games they think are the best around.
IMO we are living in the age of piracy and given a choice between my computer being invaded by god-knows-who or what company and software companies going out of business, I know which one I will choose. It happens in every field and until the law changes there will be no solution. My guess anyway is that companies don't have long to wait before the people's privacy loses its final battle, in fact in England and the US I thought it had already been trampled on with little resistance. How long can it be before companies have a limited ability to check the content of their game and their game only and people have indemnity on other issues? Economically Europe needs stuff like this now.
This is awful news and has really put a dampner on my excitement for the game. It doesn't suprise me, especially after last years Steam exclusive demo, it is obvious that SI and/or Sega have their longterm vision for the series. I expect they could tell us precisely which version of FM they expect to ship exclusively in digital form.
It really bugs me that SI have on more than one occasion acknowledged Steam's ridiculous price strategy, and said that people who don't like it should just buy a proper priced hard copy of the game from Amazon. Once these hard copies are phased out, which will 100% happen, us FM fans will have to pay £39.99 or Euros 49.99, which are both actual steam list prices from FM 11, for those who think I am being sensationalist.
SI and Sega: You are aligning with a company that is happy to screw its customers.
Secondly, SI claimed last year that they make no more money from sales via Steam, despite the obvious savings digital distribution provides. Either 1, this is a lie, and unfortunately I believe it is, or 2 SI and Sega: You are aligning with a company that is happy to screw the game devs too!
No doubt we will continue to hear SI saying "It's because of piracy. It's because of piracy," but they have previously expressed on here a knowledge that the majority of people who pirate the game wouldn't play it at all if they had to pay for it, because that's who most pirates are. It grates with me because at a time when SI get increasing amounts of criticism for neglecting their fanbase, they again inconvenience (however small it may be) their existing fans in a futile attempt to salvage a lost cause.
I think Steam is a solid product, and have never had any problems using it, but to give people no choice is a real slap in the face in my opinion.
I am truly, truly disappointed about this, and if I can control my addiction well enough to make a point, I will not be buying this years version, or any other that forces the use of Steam.
However somehow SI failed to remember that one of their own major selling points for the demo was the ability to continue it on the full game, and so loads of legitimate customers had to suffer their game being ruined, with some even being accused of piracy by SI, which was quite funny. A very good point to bring up, I had forgotten about this.
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from Sega's David..
>>This year we have found what we believe is an acceptable solution. Any version of Football Manager 2012 bought on disc will have to be activated through the Steam network, so therefore purchasers will have to have an internet connection for initial activation. This is a one-time only activation which requires you to sign up for a Steam account (which is free) and to install the Steam client and once it has been done the game can be played offline by turning on Steam's Offline mode. With those two simple steps done there are no more hoops to jump through or steps to take.
Oh golly ! And there was I 2 years ago thinking how enlightened of SI Games to have Steam as an OPTION as well as the normal
CD in the drive.
There is a mighty problem with Steam Accounts.
When you are finished with a game linked to the Valve/Steam nexus, the CD-Key is not released when you uninstall said game.
This is because they still do not like the idea of us game owners (and that is what we are, despite Valve's "license only" bollocks) having the gall to want to sell our finished game on to another lucky punter.
This flies in the face of all recognised commercial transactions..be it for books, cars,... you name it.
I suspect it's because with 2nd hand games Valve (ie Gabe Newell) don't get a share of the extra transaction.
The fact that Newell worked at Microsoft for some years prior to founding Valve says it all really !
Please SI..we are your loyal fans..give us a break.
I feel sickened by this decision to have Steam only access.
Note..it is not a good commercial decision if your purchasers are deprived in any way.
Your "bottom line" is NOT an entitlement !!
Which is already featured in windows? Yeah.
The post is sort of half and half, he's right about piracy, but steam wont encourage piracy. Now, valve doesnt release how much a game sold, but 40 odd million users on steam means they're not doing too badly in that regard. Steam wont have that "massive" impact everyone is pretending it will have, it'll cause people to sigh install it and move on(honestly, it's harder to install a game these days than use steam). The 3 lost customers wont matter. People who would pirate the game in the first place, would do it anyway, people who wouldnt pirate it, still wont pirate it. People who are on the fence? Well chances are they wont be hugely affected by this, everyone seems to just take steam as a program and apply such a massive hyperbole to the sales lost value that it boggles my mind. Remember, in the end, FM is a niche game, it's not something for the mass market. And even then, there are some games with MORE restrictive DRM that sell insane amounts(Starcraft 2 comes to mind). It's not about the DRM, it's about what incentives can you give someone in order to use it. It's down to SI as to how much they will utilise the features from steam, the more they do, the easier it will be to convince the consumer that it is indeed, the right choice.Originally Posted by FM1000
In the end, stop saying that steam will be a catastrophe for sales, it wont. As i've said, it's going to be a minor inconvience to people, but they wont care, they didnt for half life 2, or any other game that requires steam, they wont care if FM uses it. IF people actually do decide to pirate the game based on the DRM however(especially steam which is hardly restrictive despite what people would have you believe), then i am at a loss for words. As that would basically mean people on this very forum would openly commit to piracy.
Meh, either way it's pointless, people will complain about steam, people will defend it, but the bottom line wont be changed that much. Also, theres a reason these people are hired and you're not; They have a much bigger grasp on finances than anyone in this thread. The only company that seems to be an exception to that rule is ubisoft, which i have no idea WHAT the hell it's trying to do with it's DRM features. Even EA is being reasonable about it, ubisoft just takes the ****.
As for piracy, it can be a good thing when used by a person who has his head on straight. Pirates mostly do not. They have the mentality of "I love this game and the developer did a great job, i'd pay it for them but why if i can have it for free?". You have to realise that yes, there are pirates who pirate games out of neccesity(lack of funds) or due to DRM, but they are negligible, the majority of pirates just dont want to pay for something full stop.
Last edited by 0gris; 17-09-2011 at 03:58.
What a shame, I like having the option of using the disc over steam, I even wish that more games would give you this option. I doubt I will pick up the game now, thanks for saving me £25.
I believe that the only way in this case to figure out what the right thing to do is to wait for the free market to respond. The game is not a government mandate or any form of social control, and what a company should do is focus on the bottom line, and no one can fault them for trying to do that. In the end, if sales soar, then we know that they have successfully converted people from piracy by making a game of high enough quality to convince people to buy copies. If sales drop then we know that people may have found the hassle too much, or are fundamentally against the idea of steam activation. If the sales remain the same however, that's probably not a good thing for anyone.
We do have a choice whether to buy the game or not. It's a bit poo that I can't pass the game on to a friend or family member after I'm done with it but if I do want to play it, then I have to live with it. It's also dumb that steam doesn't work like it should all the time. I sympathize with people who can't activate their game or update it because of not having internet, but then I also sympathize with people who have computers who can't play the game, or don't have computers at all, or are physically disabled so they can't play the game. The company set the requirement and if we don't meet it, then I guess it's not for us. With all due respect to people who may get alienated by the development of the game, making the developers accommodate everyone is just going to drag down the quality of the game.
That being said, I do expect something back from the company. If the sales go up as much as they say it is, then something needs to come back to us. If the extra money does in fact give them the resources to make the game better, then we will be expecting a jump in quality in line with the money earned from doing this in the next editions of the game, or a price decrease in the future. I've mentioned this over and over again, but if the developers want to earn extra revenue at our expense by using in-game ads, or not allowing us to resell the game, that a single household needs multiple copies, or forcing us to install third-party applications to run it (as they are surely profiting from this) then they had better make it worth our while.
Last edited by MSCCG; 17-09-2011 at 04:49.
Just noticed the other thread had been closed but my post was not replied to, so I figured I'd post it here, too...
Hmm. I don't like it. I prefer the "use the CD at all times" option which I've done for FM09, FM10 and FM11. Now, I don't know if I'll decide against buying the game just because of Steam. I'm interested in knowing whether or not it is possible to force activation via Steam while still allowing you to uninstall Steam afterwards and continue playing? It's been a long time since I've touched Steam and I just don't like the idea of logging into third party software just so I can play a game.
Also, if I buy the game in a store and play it using Steam, can Steam still block me from playing? If for some reason my account is lost, banned or whatever, can I still just re-activate the game again on a different login? Or is this how Steam does things? I'm honestly not sure. I think I only ever played one game on Steam and, again, it was quite some time ago and obviously not long enough for me to get a real opinion of the system. All I got out of my Steam experience is that it was an annoyance and I was happy to uninstall it, much like I was happy to uninstall that Raptor software some games come with.
It's really disappointing more than anything. And I will be stunned if somehow this genuinely stops the piracy of the game. If I were to visit a torrent site the day after buying a game, would I see Football Manager 2012 there? I'm fairly confident I would. I buy the game because I love it, and I like having physical copies of games. I'm glad that SI aren't stopping me from being able to buy the game at stores because of that. But do I have to install Steam just to stop people pirating the game? Is this a realistic expectation? Again, I'll be stunned if any PC game out there is not pirated. It's, rather sadly, the way of things. Console gaming fixes a lot of that, and I suppose Xbox Live and Playstation Network are effectively the same as Steam, but I just don't like the idea of having a software literally controlling the access to my games. PSN / XBL do not control access to games. Steam does. I guess that's the difference. And that's the part I don't like. =/
EDIT: If this is just down to people pirating the game BEFORE the day of release, perhaps SI could release another no-Steam-required game a month or two later? I would honestly wait that long if it meant I could buy the game without requiring Steam. I don't mind the idea of Steam being required for activation. I just mind the idea of Steam being required to play the game for all eternity (or at least until FM2013).
I have just heard FM12 will only be installable through Steam and I have to say I'm disgusted. Anyone can tell you the majority of your paying customers don't like or appreciate being forced to play through Steam. It's foistware. I don't want that crap on my PC. I want to play FM, not install some unrelated program. I won't be buying FM12 because of this and I have been playing the series since Championship Manager 3.
Last edited by rattlenhum; 17-09-2011 at 04:53.
I use Steam and it annoys me. Sometimes it wont even go into offline mode if I forget my log in details. And if I forget them and I have no internet that day, I am basically screwed.
The Problem if they did that would be the pirates will know and just wait for the non-steam-required game.EDIT: If this is just down to people pirating the game BEFORE the day of release, perhaps SI could release another no-Steam-required game a month or two later? I would honestly wait that long if it meant I could buy the game without requiring Steam. I don't mind the idea of Steam being required for activation. I just mind the idea of Steam being required to play the game for all eternity (or at least until FM2013).
I'd say 930+ responses in 17 hours gives you an idea of the level of feeling on this topic. Steam is no problem for me but I can understand the concerns that many have raised on this over the years.
Well done guys...hopefully this way the game doesn't get cracked two days before official release and saves me the headache (to pirate it or not to pirate it) - last year I've pre-ordered it on Steam weeks ago, but when I saw the game available a couple of days early it wasn't easy...
I don't get the moaning about having to install 3rd party software... what about directx...what about frame network...etc.
Having slept on this I am rather disturbed that SI's attitude to FM'ers with no internet facility is "later W*nkers!". I expected better, cant imagine the Collyer Bros would have aproved of such a future delelopment in Corporate policy when they created the 1st CM. Im sure they are anti-pirates much as anyone but SI seem to be treating those without the net in a shoddy fashion - shame.
To be honest I dont really care about anyone playing pirated copies compared to caring how I can access the game myself and as has been previously stated pirated copies are generally owned by those who would not pay for the game (rather go without), those who cannot afford £30-£40, those who cannot access copies of the game commercially and those who have been ripped off thinking they had the real deal. As it seems pirates always get that cracked product in the end I wonder how many £'s in real terms the game would lose through piracy, less than the Corporate predictions no doubt. This is surely Sega protecting their profit margin - no more, no less.
Actually there are more pro-Steam opinions than I was expecting so I will await 21st Oct with hope.
The only problem I have with Steam is that I have to pay 49.99 Euro to buy it from them :/ :/ Why can't it be 30 like other places?
I can't believe some of the comments I've read though. How can you seriously say that because of Steam you won't buy the game?! This is insane, all they're asking for is a TINY sacrifice, if you can even call it that! I know that the majority of people REALLY love the game, and would do so much more in order to get hold of it!! (I'd spend weeks cleaning the streets if I was told that's my only chance of getting FM!). To say 'I won't buy because of Steam' is really and truly seriously questioning your loyalty and love for the game - don't this that by starting your posts with 'I'm a loyal customer because I've bought since CM2' is making you look nice, quite the opposite, if you're not willing to back the decision of SI/SEGA in order to help your gaming experience improve.
Even if it DOES NOT improve, still, there is no risk or waste of time or anything whatsoever.
I live in New Zealand and the first time SI went with the Steam option on FM 09 I think it was I spent a horrid weekend trying to get the damn thing installed, it was an extremely annoying situation that very briefly made me consider quitting the series altogether.
Now I'm sure that SI are aware of those issues that we had down under as I finally managed to actually play the game thanks to the SI team, so I would like to know if SI has learned from that bitter experience and that when I pop in my legally purchased copy of FM 2012 on the release date that I will be able to install and activate and be playing the game within minutes.
If so then fantastic, I await with the usual pleasure and excitement, please let there not be a if not...
SI, will users in other territories such as New Zealand be able to install, activate and play without the issues that plagued us the first time you tried this?
Thank you.
And for crying out loud!! Who in the world, who can afford a PC/laptop good enough to run FM, CANNOT get hold of an internet connection for two bloody minutes?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!! Some people are so disillusioned!
I havent read all the pages of this post.
But has it been answered what to do, if you are unable to connect to Steam due the ports needed are blocked in a firewall, and you have no possibility to open these ports (27500-27510 i think)?
This is the same issue on FM2011 I know that, but it really is annoying - have you or steam thought about giving access through normal http (port 80) or https (port 443) ?
I'm sure I remember a thread like this when SI announced the copy protection in FM09, now whilst that didn't work, everyone here knows it didn't work because they still went out and bought the game. Obviously I dont know the figures but I'd be willing to stick my neck out and saying that all that uproar that was caused still didnt affect sales. Admittedly Steam can be seen as an 'inconvenience' but a lot of things people are saying here are untrue. I think the majority of people complaining will still buy the game, Sega aren't going to change their mind so save your complaining for FM13 is my advice
Hopefully SI will release the demo on Steam so you can all give it a go and form your own opinions. Don't knock it until you've tried
Hehe yes yes I know It's just that since we now have to use Steam anyway, I would have preferred to buy it from there to avoid having to wait for the delivery of the item (to buy it from shops in Malta would ALSO cost around 50 Euro, hehe, so I prefer to get it from abroad). Last year it came a week late from Zavvi (it was pre-ordered).
I'm now looking into the download thing from Shop-To. Does anyone know how that will work exactly?
>Are you really that misinformed. It is ILLEGAL to resell a game.
Eh ?
Since when ?
The second hand market is alive and well in Australia, and I'd be surprised if this were not the case everywhere else as well.
I'm bemused by your comment mate.
If Valve try to prevent the reselling of games, they are sailing close to the wind. In most places you'll find this behaviour borders on "restrictive trade practices".
This is illegal in Australia certainly, and maybe gamers in the US should call Valve's bluff.
If I was anybody in SI I wouldn't go near Steam. It may not do any gaming house's reputation any good in the long run.
Thankfully there are SO many games available outside of Steam..except Footy Manager games now..blah.
One thing made Steam an excellent option for me is that before there was FM on Steam, I had to wait at least 2-3 weeks after the release date of FM to be available to buy here in Slovenia...
If I buy the disc and authenticate through Steam, I can go into offline modus and play the game. Do I need to have the disc in the drive when I want to play?
Second question.
I live in Germany, but as the game isn't available here I buy the game from Play. My computer has a German IP-Adresse. Will I still be able to activate the game through Steam?
Last edited by edwingray; 17-09-2011 at 07:37. Reason: Additional question
want the old one
I always have Steam open anyway, so the decision doesn't affect me. Even moreso because I won't be getting the game anyway. But those who are upset at the decision:
- You don't have to buy the game, vote with your wallets
- SI can do what they want and don't owe you anything, regardless of how many years you've been buying their product
- The FM franchise will not grind to a halt because of this decision, if anything it'll probably outsell last year's
- The same feedback and predictions that it will damage the brand have been made for the last 4 years ever since activation was introduced
- There is absolutely nothing wrong or dangerous about having Steam installed, it may be time for you to have to move in to the 21st century, I know, I know, change is scary
So the poll on the other tread was closed ? Right.
Jesus, it's like Steam is an little man with a bazooka that will shoot you or destroy your computer from inside...go to control panel/programmes and features and there you can read about all little programmes which are installed so other thing can work properly...no ranting about flash players, javas, directx... And now "I wanted to play FM on my new PC, but I really don't want to install Steam on it" C'mon...
Guys. I think we've basically covered every topic of conversation / issue that's been discussed. I'm really not sure what else we can say except to thank you for your opinion and say that, for those that want the information, we'll look at at releasing more info on Steam. To confirm what we do know. From our FM09 activation - we learned that, for every person playing the game legitimately, at least three others are playing cracked versions.
Steam isn't something that's going to kill your computer. It is something that you need to download to play the game this year, but we're not going to apologise for the anti-piracy measure we feel we had to take (and once again it is an anti-piracy measure). There are some great things we've learned from this thread about how you guys play this game alongside other Steam games and how it's genuinely affected how you play the game for example.
Some things that we'll genuinely look at making better in the future, but we're not going to change our long term anti-piracy stance. I hope even the most critical of you can understand that we're doing this to protect the future of FM and make sure that, not only that we can still make the game in years to come, but we can make sure that SI can continue to make it the game that has made these forums such a vibrant and informed place to get your passionate feedback.
Thanks for all of your comments so far, we truly do appreciate a lot of the constructive feedback / discussion.
what about germany? the game isnt sold over steam network. will the activation work here?
so what does that mean that i cannot play this year?
You should be able to import it from abroad and register the serial in Steam. You can't buy it in Germany/the German Steam store though.
I have a feeling it does as reqeusts that are made from German IP addresses to download/authenticate the game may be blocked be Steam, I'm not 100% sure on that but at this stage neither are SI or Sega.
Really shouldnt happen. The game is banned from being sold there, not banned from being actually PLAYED. If you import it, there should be no reason for steam not allowing you to activate. And you could always use a proxy/reinstall steam in a different language if the worst happens.
I'm sure they will find a way to let people in Germany play, this is the best argument against Steam activation I've seen in this thread
Just my only problem with Steam is that I don't play PC games other than FM. Steam is useless for me.
David - say to steam to put release date on 21th october. they are saying october generally.
The other thread is distinct from this one because of the poll. While this thread shows lots of written opinions, the other thread provides a quantitative measure of opinion.
It is quite shameful that the poll thread has been closed and of course will now drop down the list of topics into oblivion.
Its obvious that the poll serves a seperate function from this thread. I can only conclude that SI don't want us to see the results of the poll and are desperately trying in whatever fashion possible to silence the dissent here.
Shameful. Every time they take an authoritarian stance like this, everytime they trot out their corporate line, they push me and, I think, many many others, away from them.
As for the earlier comments about praising the SI staff for being on here answering questions late into the night, just remember that they're out here defending the corporate line in the interests of SI, not really to help us at all.
What a crazy decision, I won't be buying the game. Boy am I glad I didn't pre-order it!!
does that mean i can only install the game on one computer and activate it? i have a pc and a mac on both laptops i have installed the game....
No way i'm dropping 50€ in big bang on release date. Yes there are plenty of shops, but none that i would even remotely trust. I've seen lots of games missing one bit or another in many shops, and really, i dont think we have a decent store that sells videogames(apart from igabiba, but to say that's poorly stocked is an understatement). Steam is probably the best choice unless you want to import from the UK, which is much cheaper. It's just down to, do you want to wait for 2 days-week after release, or do they actually matter to you?That was your choice. You could have preordered it online and receive it around release day for half the price or just go to a local shop and buy it on release day for full price. This isnt zimbabwe. There are plenty of shops selling pc games around here. Hell you could even drive to austria and get the german version and be back in like half an hour.
Baresi, you can have the game installed as many times as you want anywhere you want, i'm assuming FM will be steamplay as well here so really there should be no issues.
So, everyone saying steam sucks. Ever tried it?
Last edited by Barside; 17-09-2011 at 09:41.
I honestly don't see what the fuss is about. I only play FM and only use steam for FM, there is nothing wrong with it and it is very useful if your laptop has no DVD drive. I now have a new laptop with a DVD drive and although I buy the disk I still just download it, it seem to run better this way in my opinion.
If you think this decision will increase sales you are very naive, if anything it will drive more people to use pirated versions of the game!
Yeah, because almighty-piracy-deterring Steam was nowhere to be found last year
In my deleted post I argued how Steam is obviously useless for copy protection, just wait and see.
See i can make baseless accusations as well.
Give steam a shot, if it's such a dealbreaker for you, you mind telling us why? As for the pirated part, dunno, i think it's going to remain about the same, maybe a few more purchases than last year compared to the amount of pirated copies.
I think it's clear though that SEGA and SI are continually trying to find the best method to combat piracy whilst also trying to cause as little an inconvenience as possible to the paying customers. If it doesn't work this year, whether it's because piracy hasn't been impacted too much, or there's been a fall in paying customers, then I'm sure it'll be changed for the next release.
btw is it possible to use the Steam cloud with those 200mb save files? I am on fast connection and it wouldn't be a problem, but is it technically possible on Steam's part?
And yes i do use steam. I have plenty of games as well. Its just that im not prepared to pay more than 5 eur for a game that is DRM infected. Its just not worth much to me if i dont control it. Besides there is always the problem of two people wanting to play two different games at the same time. Steam doesnt allow you to do it. Its not very family friendly.
Anyway...as i said before im not buying it just like i didnt buy FM09. If they want to release a DRM only game then they should adjust the price. Its not worth more than 5 eur in that form.
Jakob, as i said, it's down to if you want to wait or not. Easily going to be much cheaper if you import it. And yes, i'd rather pay 50 euros for the steam version than pay that in a local shop, i already had games missing serial numbers and even manuals. Either way, importing really would be the best option indeed.
And if you think Steam will do ANYTHING at all to combat piracy you are delusional at best. Its pretty much the worst copy protection system available. If you dont believe me just go to any torrent site on the release day and look for yourself.
That memory could be put much better to use with FM, which is a close second on the worst piece of software ever created on a Mac. Memory usage and fan speed goes through the roof whenever you launch it.


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