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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Microsoft Security Essentials/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was not promoted by GrahamColm 17:48, 14 July 2012 [1].
Microsoft Security Essentials[edit]
Microsoft Security Essentials (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Featured article candidates/Microsoft Security Essentials/archive1
- Featured article candidates/Microsoft Security Essentials/archive2
- Nominator(s): Codename Lisa (talk) 17:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Greetings. I believe this article on Microsoft Security Essentials has reached a level of quality that is expected of a Featured Article and may represent one of the best works of Wikipedia. Although I am not the main contributor of this article, I see the article has received a peer review and I do not see any of the issues mentioned in the peer review, thus I am assuming that they are resolved. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 17:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Welcome to FAC, Lisa. Even though FleetCommand says they're retired, they edited the article 10 days ago, and they've got the most edits. Per FAC instructions, it would probably be best to leave a message on their talk page, even though they're claiming they're not reading it. - Dank (push to talk) 17:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, Dank. I took care of the message. I hope it is for the best. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 19:01, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's going to need some work on the prose; could someone check it for obvious typos? For instance, just in the first paragraph: "computer virus, spyware, rootkits and trojan horses" (viruses), and "but not on Windows 8 that comes with built-in antivirus component of its own". - Dank (push to talk) 23:11, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Oppose.Prose isn't close to FAC standards, per comments here and below. - Dank (push to talk) 19:24, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. I contacted Dank on this talk page to revise his decision, now that his main concerns (i.e. "comments below") are addressed. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- Dropping my oppose, since the problems I pointed out and the problems mentioned below seem to be fixed. I don't know enough about Wikipedia's software articles to be able to support. - Dank (push to talk) 16:57, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. I contacted Dank on this talk page to revise his decision, now that his main concerns (i.e. "comments below") are addressed. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comments by Jasper Deng
- Well, this is what I see:
- Well written: Contains some vague/non-professional language, but probably not enough to be a blocker.
- Comprehensive: Very concise and detailed.
- Well-researched: While the Softpedia references could be dropped, I don't see it as a blocker.
- Neutral: Right on the mark
- Stable: Since when have we had an edit war on this article?
- Lead: No problems
- Structure: No problems
- Consistent citations: Some things are not sourced like the change in the MS stock, but this might not be a blocker.
- Media: All images have NFCC rationales, and are not bigger than needed.
- Length: Short enough, with the right amount of detail.
- I personally think it could pass.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, Jasper Deng
- Thanks for the feedback. I see that you said "the change in the MS stock" is not sourced. However, if you mean "subsequently Microsoft shares grew by 2.1 percent", it is sourced. You see, the source is at the end of the paragraph, footnote [5]. It is an article by Jim Finkle.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Link Check - no DAB-links, no broken external links, however link 4 "Microsoft Software License Terms" does not link to the license terms anymore, but to a customer-friendly summary information. The formal full license text can still be found at http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/security-essentials/eula.
- Please check the external links with the link checker tool for other redirected links - most will be ok, but some may lead to a wrong new location. GermanJoe (talk) 21:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, GermanJoe
- Thanks for the feeback. Consider it done.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
More comments,
Oppose (for now) - i will try a complete check later. but the prose appears clunky at times, a lot of short facts without much context and flow between some of them. Some quick comments for now.
- Linked internal sections in the lead, for example "elicited mixed response" links to the review section in the same article. The content list is directly below the lead, for all jumping needs :). The article content should be presented in a structured and logical order, so in-article jumps wouldn't be needed normally. Suggestion: remove the lead links to the same article and add necessary brief context information - the lead itself without any additional information must work as standalone-summary (see WP:LEAD).
- The date calculation for release dates is probably a matter of taste, but the difference for initial release is too vague (2 years for more than 2,5).
- "Features" - Sourcing the hardware requirements directly from Microsoft is problematic. Traditionally those requirements are measured too low or with completely unrealistic usage scenarions. Either specify "According to Microsoft ..." or even better, try to find a requirement statement from one of the independent reviewers and testers. In general try to source only the most basic, uncontroversial facts from Microsoft, everything else needs a reliable, independent source.
- "Development" - statements "In 2005, Microsoft acquired security software firm Sybari of Hauppauge, New York, " and "and shortly thereafter released the Microsoft Forefront line of server security products.". The connection of both statements needs to made clearer, why was Sybari acquired? What role did the Sybari employees and knowledge play in developing MSE, if any?
- "Morro" <-> "MSE", Morro is introduced in "Development", but its relation to MSE is explained only much later in "Industry response". All new terms need to be clarified at first occurence.
- "Licensing" - "Hacking" - use the formal terms from the license agreement itself. Interpretation and paraphrasing don't work well with a contract. Only what is explicitly stated in the text counts as agreed.
- "Licensing" - denial of enterprise usage, i couldn't find that clause in the text. Again only explicitly stated terms are parts of the license agreement (logically implied consequences may arise, but are not technically part of the license).
- "Review" - "On 30 September 2011, a faulty definition update caused Microsoft Security Essentials to incorrectly tag Google Chrome as malware. The issue was resolved within three hours." has 4 sources. Even for controversial statements 2 (reliable) sources should suffice, pick the 2 best (check for similar instances with multiple sources).
As stated already, try to reread the prose once more or ask someone with two fresh eyes to check it. It's a good interesting article, but i feel, it's not quite at FA level yet. GermanJoe (talk) 20:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, GermanJoe. Thanks for the comments. I have address the problems you mentioned as follows:
- Links to internal sections, as testified by article history, has been effective measures of maintaining article stability. In the past, zealous people have undeservedly put {{citation needed}} or {{advert}} in the lead without bothering to check with the body. (I trust you do know that lead section does not require inline citations.) I am open to suggestion of alternatives but this solution has proved itself.
- Date calculation error stems from a problem in template {{start date and age}} and is noted in its template talk page. I have no power of fixing it. But I trust it will be eventually fixed. Nevertheless, is it really such a blocker?
- Hardware requirements are only available from Microsoft. Others only copy and paste from Microsoft without crediting Microsoft.
- Sybari problem is fixed. You are right: It was a fragment and is deleted.
- Morro/MSE problem is fixed. I added a source to that effect.
- Licensing problem (1) is fixed.
- Licensing problem (2) is fixed.
- As for the last issue, perhaps you do know the policy: Facts that are subject to more controversy or sentimentalism need more sources. This is one such fact. Article history and talk page testifies.
- I will get someone else to see the article, but given what you said, I do not think the article issue are so grave that warrant a rejection. They can be fixed on the spur of the moment.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 06:43, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Some quick notes, only for the remaining points. Thanks for addressing the issues.
- Links to internal sections - ok, i see your reasoning. I am not sure, what the majority position is, but it seems to be no dealbreaker in my opinion.
- Date calculation - suggest 'Initial release' without template for now, but a minor style issue.
- Hardware requirements - You should attribute "According to Microsoft ..." or similar directly in the article then. As party with a self-interest, Microsoft's informations have to be taken with a grain of salt.
- Sourcing - see WP:RS and WP:V for more information. "Exceptional" statements need multiple sources, but the google chrome-statement simply tells us, what happened (unless i miss some controversial background). I don't see it as that exceptional. GermanJoe (talk) 13:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hi again, this is Codename Lisa. All is done. I have fallen back to {{start date}}, which is another commonly used tag, added "according to Microsoft" and deleted two sources. And a sixth person accepted to look at the article. The result should come in here soon.
- Best regards. Codename Lisa (talk) 20:22, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Some quick notes, only for the remaining points. Thanks for addressing the issues.
- "It uses the same antivirus engine as that of the other Microsoft antivirus products"—I think you can remove "that of".
- "It is supported on Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 but not on Windows 8 that comes with built-in antivirus component of its own." I'd say comma after "7", and "8, which comes".
- Not sure about "given ground": "Its popularity has given ground to the appearance of various rogue antivirus programs that imitate its name."—perhaps "has prompted"? Remove "of various". What do you mean by "imitate" here? Tony (talk) 09:07, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, Tony1
- I think the new edits should satisfy you. Actually, "prompt" was not really the case since the popularity of an antivirus does not force anyone to create an impersonating rouge antivirus. Therefore, I changed the sentence structure altogether.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 11:12, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Comment (GermanJoe), i appreciate the effort put into this article, but after checking the first half of the article the prose is clearly not FA-level yet. I believe, there was too little time preparing the article for FA before nomination. The PR appears to have covered some problems, but the overall article would benefit from a complete, thorough check and rewrite of a few parts. Another problem is the current lead, which doesn't work well as complete article summary and a few differences between the article and it's supporting sources (haven't checked images or general source quality). Following a incomplete list of questions and open points:
- lead
- Is "MSE" the official or just a common inofficial abbrevation? If it is used often, it should be mentioned briefly.
- "The announcement of Microsoft Security Essentials elicited mixed response from the antivirus industry, with some predicting its failure, some condemning it and some appreciating its potential for expanding users' choice of antivirus." ==> The second half of this sentence carries almost no specific information, it's all kept very general. Suggestion: rewrite that part with more (brief) detail and a little background:
- "predicting its failure" and "condemning" could be condensed to "critizise" or "negative review" with some specific information, why the reactions were negative (f.e. critics suggested a weak antivirus search engine, just a "copy" of the former technique),
- also the positive side could be more clear: how would MSE expand users choice exactly? (f.e. it would aim for users not currently having any antivirus software and low budget users).
- "Despite this, Microsoft Security Essentials has received generally positive reviews." - Again too vague - briefly name 2-3 of the most praised features (details later in main text).
- "On March 2012, it was the most popular antivirus software product in North America and the second most popular in the world." - the rating system or publisher for this should be mentioned. Also as exception: when using "most", "biggest", ...-phrases in lead, a immediate source is usually appropriate (same with quotes or statistic information). Other lead information can be sourced later in main article.
- "Due its popularity, several rogue antivirus programs that try to impersonate it have appeared." - missing word, "Due to ...". Also while this is a logical assumption, you still need a source for it, otherwise it's WP:OR.
- Features
- "Microsoft Security Essentials is an antivirus product[s]." - typo
- "It fights malware, malicious software that [are] harmful to a computer environment and its user, ..." - "and its users"? Of course indirectly by damaging their computer environment, but (directly) "harmful to users" sounds odd in that context. Also "malware" and "software" are usually singular form (unless you specifically refer to separate, distinct pieces of malware or software).
- " ... including Forefront Endpoint Protection, System Center Endpoint Protection, Windows Intune Endpoint Protection, Windows Live OneCare and Windows Defender." - offtopic for the MSE article, no need to list the whole product family, especially as most readers won't know, what the article is talking about here.
- "Microsoft Security Essentials disables Windows Defender, since Microsoft Security Essentials also provides protection against spyware and adware." - not covered by source, the source only says "MSE replaces Windows Defender ..." (as a software product).
- "By default, the contents of archived files are scanned. File downloads and e-mail attachments are also scanned." - If the second sentence is also "by default", the 2 phrases could be combined in one, try to avoid too short sentences.
- "Its Dynamic Signature Service attempts to better identify malicious files by checking for updates if an application exhibits suspicious behavior." - "Its" should be "MSE's", as the subject changed meanwhile. Also "Dynamic Signature Service" is an unclear technical term. Every time an application is suspicous, the DSS looks for updates? I assume, it's only every time, when a suspicous application without matching virus signature is found. Otherwise the checking would be awfully slow.
- " ... of the antivirus." - missing word, antivirus software.
- "Also depending ..." - Avoid "also" as much as possible, in most cases it can be removed without problems.
- "...a day to Microsoft Update." - new technical term, brief qualifier for "Microsoft Update" needed (for the 2-3 people, who don't own a MS operating system).
- " ... Microsoft Security Portal" - again new term, brief descriptor needed.
- Check other Microsoft-related terms throughout the article and make sure, they are briefly introduced and linked if available at first mention.
- Development
- Was the first release called "Version 1.0"? Just checking, if yes, maybe worth mentioning.
- "Morro would be free for all genuine installations of Windows not intended for business use (with an exception for small home based businesses) and offers protection against all types of malware.[15]" - source 15 (BBC) does not match this information, needs a thorough recheck and a different source.
- "Version 2 can also integrate with Internet Explorer to protect users against web-based threats.[20][21][22][23][24]" Several points:
- Does it work with all versions of Internet Explorer or is a minimum IE version required?
- "integrate with" is a bit awkward, it's not a part of IE - maybe "can support Internet Explorer to ...".
- What types of web-based threats (phishing, cookies, scripts, ...)?
- why 5 sources? none of the statements sounds controversial or extraordinary. If they source different parts of the paragraph, try to move them to the related sentences.
- "A version 3.0 was never released." - More detail, or let's remove that part (it's obvious from the version list). It is too short and abrupt to work as introduction sentence for a paragraph.
"According to Softpedia, Windows 8 Setup [demands] Microsoft Security Essentials to be uninstalled before upgrading Windows 7." - "demand" is too strong here. Either "asks" or "prompts the user to uninstall ..." would work better.
- Licensing
- "...or to disclose the results of benchmark tests of this software product to third parties without prior written approval from Microsoft Corporation." - not covered in source, the license agreement (i couldn't find it atleast).
- "...[may] cease to operate after a period of time." - The image caption says "...[will] cease to operate ...". Should be consistant. If it's "may cease" it would be interesting to know, in which cases the software does continue even without genuine OS (?).
I'm sorry, if those points sound negative. They are purely meant as positive criticism to help with improving the article. GermanJoe (talk) 18:21, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- I don't believe asking for withdrawal is very fair, considering that this does not take more than like 15 minutes to fix.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:15, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, German Joe
- I just arrived and took a look at your review and frankly I must say some of your suggestions are grammatically and factually wrong. I only mention three because I believe time and effort should be dedicated to the article, not your review.
- You said: " ... of the antivirus." - missing word, antivirus software. Wrong! "The antivirus" refers to Microsoft Security Essential. "The antivirus software" would refer to all antivirus computer programs collectively.
- You said: not covered by source, the source only says "MSE replaces Windows Defender ..." (as a software product). Wrong! The source says: "MSE replaces Windows Defender, by the way, since it provides a superset of Defender's capabilities."
- You said: "demand" is too strong here. Either "asks" or "prompts the user to uninstall ..." would work better. "Ask" and "prompt" are contextually wrong and too weak for our purpose. It demands and strongly so. It is either Windows Setup's way or highway.
- I am getting to work. Help just arrived. In the mean time however, please convert your bulleted list into s numbered list, so we know what we are talking about.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 07:29, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. Codename Lisa here. Beginning checklist:
- Lead:
- Fixed but there is no source on how widespread its use is
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Partly fixed. For the sake of style consistency, as long as there are inline links, no inline citation will be provided.
- Fixed. Has source.
- Features:
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Fixed by enforcing consistent use of the word "antivirus" as a modifier or subject complement
- Fixed
- Fixed
- Fixed - at least I think so
- Acknowledged
- Features:
- Development:
- Reporting affirmative. And sorry, I don't think so.
- Fixed
- No source available
- This word comes from sources. Changing it would be risky because they do not elaborate on the nature of the integration.
- No source available to answer.
- Improved but all sources remained. Yes, I think all five are necessary and more is needed, because has it been only one or two, I would have been the first to dispute the sources and say "yes, they are generally reliable sources but this time they have dropped the ball." Just see how the sources are unable to address your three questions above. Even with all these sources, the whole story look like sensational journalism. Alas, Wikipedia is about verifiability not logic.
- Partially fixed. If I remove that, I have spend the rest of my life answering "what happened to v3?" because there seems to be general consensus around Wikipedia that if there is a version hop, it must be mentioned. Due to lack of source, it cannot be expanded. The only source I found is this: http://confidentialfiles.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/microsoft-security-essentials-why-jump-from-2-to-4/ But do you warrant putting it into the article as a source?
- Development:
- Licensing:
- Fixed (a product of change in EULA)
- Fixed
- Licensing:
- Reception:
- Fixed
- Withdrawn by GermanJoe
- Fixed
- Reception:
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk)
I know, a review can be frustrating, but the mentioned issues are not meant to put down the article as a whole (i would be glad to support after a prose overhaul and some additional preparations before FA). Anyway a quick response to your points (in the same order):
- "antivirus" is a modifier (see World English or Oxford Dictionary). I am aware that advertising texts and reviews sometimes use it shorthand as full noun, but formally it's "antivirus software", no matter if a single software or the whole type of software is referred to.
- "Disable" and "replace" mean two different things. And the source text talks about replacement.
- OK. I updated this point in the list. GermanJoe (talk) 08:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hello again. Codename Lisa here. Apart from the fact that "antivirus" as a modifier can act as subject complement, using "antivirus software" in this context is misleading. Apart from that, dictionaries quickly grow old and are therefore the most unreliable source of writing style. There are a lot of words that we use that do not appear in dictionary. While three most reputable OSes now use the term "app", it is nowhere in dictionaries. Regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 10:46, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- P.S. I am not frustrated; in fact I am glad that article is receiving the well-deserved feedback it did not receive during PR. On the whole I think this article is destined to become featured, either now or later. Regards. Codename Lisa (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Comment On a positive note the remaining article after licensing has a better flow, less singular facts are just "listed". Please keep us posted, when the prose check throughout the whole article is done. A few more minor points:
- Industry response "Tom Powledge of Symantec claimed OneCare offered "substandard protection" and an "inferior user experience", implying Microsoft Security Essentials would be the same." - the implication is obvious, but Wikipedia can't state it without a 3rd party source. Suggest to remove the ".. implying part", the reader will draw his own conclusions anyway.
- reviews "AV-TEST.org tested and certified Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0 [as?] on March 2011." - name of the certificate would be good here
- "... on March 2011. Despite having received the certificate, this [product] ..." - "this product version" would be a bit clearer, the same product gets better with updates, as described later.
Regarding withdrawal or not, i still believe the article was nominated a bit early and the prose needs more work, but the delegates decide finally on their own discretion. Thank you for adressing the mentioned issues and for implementing some of the suggestions. Especially the lead reads better now and contains more information. GermanJoe (talk) 11:30, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi.
- I have added topic sentence to nearly all paragraphs I copy-edited and will keep doing so. Topic sentences summarize the paragraph and therefore do not have an immediate footnote of their own. Yet, their verifiability is my top priority.
- Now, as for you #2 comment above, the certificate name is AV-TEST.org certificate. Are you sure it is needed? But I will explain what it certify.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 19:28, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, GermanJoe
- Okay, this time it took longer but it is done. What do you think now? Still you think the prose is not FA material?
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 22:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
More Comments - the article has been improved considerably, however there are still some more points:
- Lead "OPSWAT" - first mention, a brief qualifier would be good. "data provider"?
- "Windows 8" throughout the article - the sub-article uses future tense for all Windows 8 features, which seems more appropriate. From the average customers' point of view Windows 8 is not yet released.
- Try to avoid similar "listy" sentence structures close to each other, f.e. "It ... . It .... . It ...." (1st para of lead and section "features") - a minor point, but some variety in phrasings will help to improve general prose flow. When possible, try to replace MSE or "it" with a fitting synonym (f.e. last para of "Features" uses only MSE as subject 6 times without any variety).
- Features "...the web-based [service] software update service." - first service is redundant.
- Development "... focused on the 50 to 60 percent [of PC users] who don't have, or won't pay for, antivirus protection, antimalware protection" - The quote's abrupt stop reads odd. The whole quote is taken verbatim from the source, but maybe add " [...]" to indicate, that the sentence is not finished here.
- "...Microsoft quietly released the second version" - Is "quietly" without advertisement or without any official press information or without any information at all? Better to use a more specific description.
- Reception "The antivirus industry [also] ..." - say no to "also" :), almost always superfluous.
- "after announcing an upcoming [a] beta version ... " - grammar.
- "AV-TEST.org tested Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0 on March 2011 [] certified" - missing word "and".
- "Report detail shows ..." - "Report details show ..." assuming it was a set of data, not one single fact.
- "Since March 2011, Microsoft Security Essentials [is] tested and certified ..." - "was" or "has been" tested, as the text refers to the separate test runs in the past.
- "... new/unknown ..." - MOS advices against "/"-constructions, better to spell it out
- "... low false-positives (six) ..." - "(only six occurrences)" would read slightly better. Per MOS: try to limit brackets to the absolutely necessary.
- "Microsoft Security Essentials v2.0 was released shortly thereafter." - Redundant information, see section with versions. I assume this info is added to explain, why 1.0 was still used for testing in December. To clarify the context maybe: "Microsoft Security Essentials v2.0 was released shortly thereafter, thus it could not be included in the December 2010-tests." or similar.
- "On 8 June 2011, PC Advisor listed Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0 in its article Five of the Best Free Security Suites, which included Avast! 6 Free Edition, Comodo Antivirus 5.4, AVG Antivirus 2011 and BitDefender Total Security 2012 Beta." - Are test results available? Why was MSE chosen among the top 5? Brief summary would be enough.
After that round of nitpicking a few general remarks:
- "technical" checks like source check and image check are still needed (best by some yet uninvolved reviewer).
- The internal lead-linking within the article is ok by me, but would be good to double-check MOS-compliance by another reviewer with more MOS-experience.
- The FA-criteria 1a calls for "well-written: its prose is engaging, even brilliant, and of a professional standard", which is probably one of the hardest hurdles to overcome. In my opinion another reviewer -ideally with experience in IT-articles or a GOCE member- is needed to do a thorough, full copy-edit. It's great, that the article is improving on several aspects, but the overall prose is still only "OK or good" and is very hard to raise to "engaging or excellent" with a point by point review. GermanJoe (talk) 09:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi.
- Here is what I did:
- Fixed.
- Um, I don't quite understand you.
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed. But Odd? Unfinished?
- It means both. But I am out of ideas for a better phrase. Any suggestion?
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed.
- Fixed. No, you are right. It was not redundant in the past but it is now.
- Actually, I meant to ask you about this. You see, the editors seem to have liked all that the article explains. It does not offer any quantified reason for listing Microsoft Security Essentials on top. The only thing that has prevented me from deleting this is the fact that it is an independent observation.
- Here is what I did:
- Look, I am not feeling well now. Must go the hospital. If I didn't come back after ... I don't know, some reasonable time ... please do me a favor and perform the withdrawal and closure procedures. Oh, and please check if I have missed any fix. (Maybe I intended but due headache, actually forgot committing the fix.)
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- I hope, you feel better soon - health is certainly more important than some Wiki-article. Some clarification for the remaining points:
- point 2: Windows 8 is not yet a finalized, released product - in that sense you can (and probably should) use future tense to describe its features. Of course the final product will have the same features as a pre-release, but technically we can't be 100% sure of that.
- point 6: Refs. 21 and 22 don't say anything specific about the release method, if you want to stay close to the sources, they describe another (after 1.0) limited beta phase (for the same countries again).
- point 15: The source has several reasons for the top 5 rating, it is probably just difficult to summarize them. In general for all 5 it's "being free" and "working well", the latter is specified for MSE with "protection against a wide range of malware", "realtime protection" and "regular virus definition updates". GermanJoe (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi.
- I hope, you feel better soon - health is certainly more important than some Wiki-article. Some clarification for the remaining points:
- For the time being, I have a laptop and I can be in communication but for a while, no more spending long hours reading and re-reading the article and sources. For now:
- P2: Ooooh, I am afraid that is going have serious issues with WP:NPOV and WP:CRYSTAL. From a neutral point of view, Windows 8 is now available to general public via the Internet and has an antivirus component. What is written about Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 8 is what is verified on the available releases of Windows 8 (through sources, of course). As for the future, we cannot tell until it becomes present. We can quote a Microsoft statement about a future promise, but only when such a statement is important beyond its weight as a promise. But if you are not satisfied, let's have a third opinion on this. Jasper Deng? Dank?
- P6: Is it my headache or do we have a paradigm shift here? I think point 6 was about the word "quietly" which you thought must be clarified. This word is mentioned in [23] and [24]. During my study of the article sources and Binging, I often thought "Wow! MSE 2 must have been released very quietly. No ad, no PR, no nothing..." Then, I realized that two of the sources have thought what I thought. So, I put it there. Perhaps, we should move the word "quietly" out of the topic sentence, where it can be directly attributed to [23] and [24].
- P15: I guess you are right there. I'll have a go with that in the future. I hope I could ask someone to take care of it.
- Best,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 18:55, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
- P2 and P6, background of both points understood, thanks for your clarification. Windows 8 will not use MSE, i think that's uncontroversial as a fact and will not change. With that in mind, the current handling should be ok. It would be nice to have more details for "quietly", but of course the article can only use existing info, no problem with that. GermanJoe (talk) 09:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, GermanJoe
- After some consideration, I finally decided to go ahead and address P15 by deleting the paragraph. You after reading the PC Advisor article one last time, I realized that the article has one problem too many and is not worthy mention in a Featured Article. For one thing, the article refers to "best security suites", whereas none of the participants except the last are security suites. (They are antivirus products.) For another, they have also chosen Comodo Antivirus, which is an awful antivirus product that has times and again failed VB.100 tests. I think any average computer-literate user knows that Avira Antivir is a much better choice for that position. Overall, I think that article is produced in a hurry.
- Nevertheless, I am open to a third opinion.
- Are there any more issues left? (I am a little muddle-headed now, I am prone to forget.)
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 20:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- The specific points mentioned seem to be all addressed, thank you. However i would like to wait for other uninvolved copy-editors and/or reviewers to check the prose and offer their opinion (see my "general remarks" of June 8). I have this site on watchlist and will check back in, if needed. (i completely agree with your assessment of the top 5-source article, best to focus on the more specific MSE reviews.) GermanJoe (talk) 15:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- (indent) I'll do some minor copy-edits to keep me busy. Please check and revert/tweak, when you think something got worse. Often prose problems occur with short stubby sentences, repetitive phrasing or convoluted structures with too many sub-clauses. However i am not that experienced in copy-editing, a GOCE-member would be much more qualified. GermanJoe (talk) 20:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, I have been tracking it now. Most of them are good but I am afraid the last three are very tacky.
- 1: "Microsoft announced a number of over 30 million users for its product" – it's not English really; it's odd. Definitely not professional or engaging.
- 2: Okay, I don't remember what was the last time I saw a colon being used for inline attribution in English. In a couple of other languages, yes, but English? I don't remember.
- 3: Now, I really don't understand this one.
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 20:53, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Pt. 1 and 2 - go ahead and tweak them please, that's why i put up a disclaimer of my editing skills :). Thanks for catching and improving those points. I struggled to get the "Microsoft announced"-part neatly into the first structure, with Microsoft and Microsoft Software Essentials close to each other. Point 2: i have seen colons for inline attribution several times in articles (it's a nice change to "According to ...", when it's not overused). Point 3 is a case of "two independent sentences with a close connection to each other" - a matter of style, but certainly worth a semicolon. GermanJoe (talk) 21:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi.
- I'll be discharged on Monday; until then, I won't be able to edit Wikipedia anytime I want. But thanks.
- Codename Lisa (talk) 17:54, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Pt. 1 and 2 - go ahead and tweak them please, that's why i put up a disclaimer of my editing skills :). Thanks for catching and improving those points. I struggled to get the "Microsoft announced"-part neatly into the first structure, with Microsoft and Microsoft Software Essentials close to each other. Point 2: i have seen colons for inline attribution several times in articles (it's a nice change to "According to ...", when it's not overused). Point 3 is a case of "two independent sentences with a close connection to each other" - a matter of style, but certainly worth a semicolon. GermanJoe (talk) 21:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.


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|1⁄2 , sliced
|1 , sliced
|White onion
|1 Small, sliced
|1⁄2 , juiced
|1 Teaspoon
|Freshly ground black pepper
|1⁄2 Teaspoon
|1 Pound, shelled and deveined
1. In a large saucepan bring one quart of water to a boil, add the remaining ingredients except the shrimp and boil fifteen minutes.
2. Add the shrimp and simmer, uncovered, until pink, two to five minutes. Drain or leave the shrimp in the broth until serving time, as desired. Refrigerate.
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Serving size: Complete recipe
Calories 570 Calories from Fat 75
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 8 g12.8%
Saturated Fat 1.6 g8%
Trans Fat 0 g
Cholesterol 689.4 mg229.8%
Sodium 2674.2 mg111.4%
Total Carbohydrates 27 g9%
Dietary Fiber 6.1 g24.6%
Sugars 8.5 g
Protein 95 g189.6%
Vitamin A 222.3% Vitamin C 75.4%
Calcium 32.2% Iron 68.6%
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The experimental drug ZMapp has shown remarkable success in treating those stricken with the Ebola virus.
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text: A/ 5 7^38 X*. ONE DAY WITH WHffs^L FREDERICK KEPPEL reprinted, by permission, from "the reader" of januarv/ 1904 FREDERICK KEPPEL & CO. NEW YORK 191 1 Portrait of Whistler From the drawing by Paul Rajon T ? * i *H 5 1 f ' 1 ■'■* 3 ^ V B 1 1 CliJjfU I ?• 4* ^ »•> *.? ; *f 1 <f d <. il ■J i 1 1° V i J ONE DAY WITH WHISTLER WHISTLER died in London on the 17th of July, 1903, yet the more or less elaborate articles which have already been printed about him may be numbered by hun- dreds. Nor is the fascinating subject of this extraordinary personality by any means ex- hausted. More than one formal biography has appeared, and the monumental work of Air. and Airs. Pennell was published in the year 1908. The dual personality of Whistler — as a supreme master in art and as a su- preme master of brilliant satirical wit — will continue to employ "the pen of the ready writer" for a long time to come. If the old-time author's apologia for the appearance of some new book or treatise were still the fashion, I could make mine by simply stating that the present article contains noth- ing on the subject which has been printed before ; seeing that it is the "unvarnished tale" (also the hitherto unpublished tale) of Whistler's intercourse with me and mine with him. Our first meeting, long years ago, took place at his rooms in Tite Street. Chelsea. My errand did not concern myself at all: I simply undertook to deliver to him a picture entrusted to me at Whistler's request by an absent friend of his who told me in French parlance the master would be visible from nine to ten o'clock ever}" morning. I reached his house at about half past nine and was admitted by a servant who showed me into a reception room in which the prevailing color scheme was a pale and delicate yellow. The room at first looked bare and empty, yet its general effect was both novel and pleasing. Having sent up my card, upon which I had written a memorandum stating the cause of my visit. I soon heard a light step, and a mo- ment later I set eyes on Whistler for the first time. It was his humor not to enter his own reception room, but to remain at the thresh- old glaring at me through his monocle and holding his watch open in his hand. There he was — the Whistler of so many portraits and so many caricatures — a slender, alert little man. but so gracefully proportioned that, as he stood framed in his own doorway, it was not easy to determine whether he was big, middle-sized, or small. All the external attributes or trade-marks were in evidence: the white lock above the middle of his fore- head, carefully segregated from the black curls around it; the monocle stuck in his right eye and protected from breakage by a thin black cord which ran through a hole drilled near the edge of the crystal; the aggressive cravat and the very long black coat. Sud- denly, with a disconcerting little detonation caused by the abrupt parting of his closed lips and with a simultaneous grimace, he caused the eye-glass to bounce outward from his eye, and having, like the patriarch Job, "opened his mouth," he said: "Now, I have just four minutes to spare: what is it that you want?" Let me here confess that I felt somewhat nettled at this unexpected reception — seeing that I had come long miles out of my way solely to oblige an absent friend of his and, incidentally, to oblige Whistler him- self — and so I set myself to break down the repellent pose which he saw fit to assume. Having delivered to him the little picture which I had brought I gave him no immedi- ate opening to snub me further. With this intent I talked about the friend who had sent me to him ; I described to him the fine posi- tion in which his own contribution to the Paris Salon had been hung; I told him some flattering things which had been said by the right sort of people about it; I gave him news, which I knew would interest him, of other friends of his, and, like Browning's hero, I kept up "any noise bad or good," until he so far unbent as to enter the room where I was. Abruptly he then put the question to me: "Are you fond of pictures?" To this I made answer: "Such pictures as may be seen here, yes." "Come to the studio," said he; and thus began a memorable day which only ended when he had to go out to dine at eight in the evening, and even then he delayed — calmly remarking that people always waited dinner for him, no matter how late he came. This long day was passed in the studio except when we adjourned to the dining-room for lunch, where I remember that the table was deco- rated with yellow flowers and that the dishes were hollow, the hollow space being filled with boiling water for the purpose of keeping the eatables hot. But it was in his studio that Whistler was at his brightest and best. Surely never was a man so far removed from being common- place. His alert wit kept flashing like sum- 6 mer lightning, and the pronouncement which Dr. Samuel Johnson delivered on his friend David Garrick might with equal force be ap- plied to Whistler: "Sir, for sprightly conver- sation he is the foremost man in the world." Much of his talk that day was of a denuncia- tory character. Some eminent personages were severely castigated, but the vials of his bitterest wrath were poured on the devoted heads of certain prominent artists and more especially on those who painted portraits. While speaking on this subject he gave ex- pression to one opinion which seems to be so sound and right that it should be recorded here: ''To paint what is called a great por- trait in England," said he, "the artist must overload everything with strong contrasts of violent colors. His success with the rich ig- norant public is assured if only he succeeds in setting his colors shouting against each other. Go to the exhibition at the Royal Academy and see what is called the picture of the year— Mr. A's portrait of Mr. B. You can easily find it by seeing the crowd that stands staring at it all day long. Mix with this crowd and get near to the picture; fill your eye with it ; then turn round and look at the faces of the living spectators, — how quiet in tone they are! If A's portrait is right, surely even - living man and woman you see in the crowd must be wrong!" From all this depressing pessimism he rap- idly turned to another subject which he pro- ceeded to treat with enthusiastic optimism; for he began to talk of his own works. His delight in these was as frank and complete as the delight of some little boy who has tri- umphantly constructed a satisfactory mud pie. There was standing on a perpendicular easel in the studio his superb portrait of the violinist, Sarasate — the same picture which afterward created such a sensation at the Paris Salon. The delighted artist conducted me through a doorway which faced the pic- ture and, further on, to the end of a long corridor. There, turning round, we gazed on the picture framed in a vista of corridor and doorway. Laying his hand on my shoulder he said to me: "Now, is n't it beautiful?" "It certainly is," I answered. "No," said he, "but is n't it beautiful?" "It is indeed," I replied. Then raising his voice to a scream, with a not too wicked blasphemy, and bring- ing his hand down upon his knee with a bang so as to give superlative emphasis to the last word of his sentence, he cried, " it! Is n't it beautiful?" If I could do no other thing so well as Whistler, I could at 8 least shout as loud as he could scream, so turning to him and adopting his little "swear word" (as a quotation, of course) I shouted into his face " it, it is!" This third declaration seemed to satisfy him, and so we returned to the studio. More manifestations of his delight in his own work were to follow: He had just re- ceived the proof sheets of his now famous book, "The Gentle Art of Making Enemies, " and he asked me to read some of it aloud so that he could "hear how it sounded." Now I believe it is not possible for anyone to read a piece of fine literature aloud, and to do it well, unless he has read it before and knows what is coming in the text; and so I was not at all surprised when, after I had read a few pages to him, he called out "Stop! You are murdering it! Let me read it to you." He was quite right; I was murdering it! So we changed places. He read his own book ad- mirably, and kept at it for about two hours. My enjoyment was, however, interrupted by a characteristic incident: His man-servant entered the studio: "Well?" said Whistler. "Lady Somebody, sir," said the servant (she was one of the great ladies of the British peerage). "Where is she?" "In her car- riage at the door, sir." Whistler took no 9 further notice of his servitor but resumed the reading of his proof sheets to me, and the puzzled footman, who was standing behind his master's back and facing me, shook his head slowly up and down, and — like Long- fellow's Arabs — "silently stole away." Thus the reading went on for quite ten minutes longer, and the reader's sole auditor fidgeted more and more, till, realizing how deadly cold it was on that March day, I called out to him, "I beg your pardon, Mr. Whistler, but I think I overheard your servant telling you that a lady was waiting to see you." "Oh," said he, "let her wait, let her wait, — I 'm ynobbed with these people!" Then he went on reading for fully fifteen minutes more, and after that (his voice was getting tired, I dare say) he condescended to go down-stairs and receive her shivering lady- ship. Another incident of that day was the visit of a foreign artist, an old acquaintance, with whom Whistler had not — as yet — quarreled. He was received with genuine cordiality, and, artist-like, he ran round the studio looking at everything. One small picture seemed to charm him especially, and he said, "Now that is one of your good ones." "Don't look at it, dear boy," said Whistler, airily, "it 's not fin- 10 ished." "Finished!" said the visitor. "Why, it is the most carefully finished picture of yours that I have ever seen." "Don't look at it!" persisted Whistler. "You are doing injustice to } r ourself, you are doing injustice to my picture — and you are doing injustice to me!" The visitor looked bewildered, when Whistler in a theatrical tone cried out, "Stop, I '11 finish it now!" Then he procured a very small camel's-hair brush, fixed it on a long and slender handle, mixed a little speck of paint on his palette, dipped the tip of his brush into it, and then, standing off from his picture, and with the action of a fencer with his rapier he lunged forward and touched the picture in one spot with his pigment. "Now it 's finished," said he. "Now you may look at it!" This was all highly dramatic, and indeed very well acted, but as in the case of some stage plays, the final act of Whistler's performance proved to be an anti-climax: the foreign artist took his leave, but finding that he had left his umbrella behind him, called for it next day. The servant, recog- nizing him, told him that Mr. Whistler had gone out for the day, but invited him to go to the studio and seek his umbrella. He went there and found it, but also took the oppor- tunity of having one more look at the picture 1 1 which had been "finished" for his special benefit the day before; and then he saw that the little dab of wet paint which Whistler had so dramatically put on he had afterward scrupulously wiped off again! The kindly old Latin maxim which exhorts us to "Speak nothing but good concerning the dead" is appropriate for the millions of ordi- nary nobodies who disappear and are forgot- ten; but historical verity is most essential in the case of eminent or notable personalities whom the world will not forget. Thomas Carlyle was one such man and Lord Byron was another; but Mr. Froude so '"edited" Carlyle's diary that no one is satisfied, and Thomas Moore suppressed Byron's diary altogether. Thus these two eminent men are not known to posterity as they each had de- liberately planned to be known, and a serious danger of the same kind threatens the mem- ory of Whistler. He was no coward — what- ever other faults and eccentricities he may have manifested — and his life was consistent (in an inconsistent way) from first to last. Yet some of the biographical notices which have already appeared try to make of him a sort of milk-and-water saint. This falsifica- tion may possibly do honor to the hearts of these writers — but certainly not to their 12 heads! — and Whistler would never have ap- proved of it. He took infinite pains, indeed, to let the world see his character as it actu- ally was, and those who knew him best would agree with me in the opinion that all posthumous records of him should be written in the spirit of Othello's manly request when, knowing that he was about to die, he said: Speak of me as I am; nothing extenuate, Nor set down aught in malice. It is in this spirit that I now venture to give, as dispassionately as I can, the results of my long years of study of this extraordinary "hu- man document," Whistler; and if I do not render my verdict worthless by covering him over with an indiscriminate coat of "white- wash," I have the precedent of his own book, "The Gentle Art of Making Enemies," to warrant me in telling the truth without fear or favor. Indeed, I shall not go so far as Whistler went, for in that book of his (with its felicitous title) he did not scruple to print numbers of letters from persons still living, and certainly without the consent of the sev- eral writers. It is quite another and an al- lowable thing to print private letters after the writers of them are dead; and many de- T 3 lightful books are made almost entirely from this source. Whistler has often been called the greatest painter of his day — and he was always called the greatest etcher. If this proud position was accorded to him too tardily it was mainly through his own fault. It was his humor to antagonize the world in general; naturally the consequences reacted upon himself. The same cause would have brought about the same results in the case of Corot or Millet or Sargent or any other man of genius, for it was Whistler himself who deliberately made the hard bed in which he had to lie for many a year. ''To the froward thou wilt show thyself froward" remains as true to-day as when it was written long ages ago. One writer makes the statement that "there never has been and probably never shall be another man 'like Whistler." As to the future — we cannot tell ; as to his own times, a satirical London reviewer wittily calls a whole group of artists "mainly penny- Whistlers," because they aped both the mas- ter's personality and his art, and in conse- quence were of no more value than a child's penny-whistle. But it is remarkable that no writer has as yet pointed out the strong re- semblance between the man Whistler and the 14 man Benvenuto Cellini. Whistler flourished some three and a half centuries later than the famous Florentine sculptor and gold- smith, who was born in the year 1500; each of the two has left an extraordinary book in which the author is the extravagantly vaunted hero ; each of them spent much of his life in waging conflicts of his own making, and each records his own exploits with the most com- placent self-satisfaction. Mr. John Addington Symonds — the trans- lator, apologist, and vindicator of Cellini — feels constrained to write of the Florentine: "Great though his talents were he vastly overrated them, and set a monstrously ex- aggerated value on his works of art. The same qualities made him a fierce and bitter rival; he could not believe that anyone with whom he came into collision had the right to stand beside him." Does not this extract make us almost feel that we are reading a paragraph from some current biography of Whistler? But notwithstanding these self-created drawbacks his genius as an artist, coupled with his brilliant powers of pleasing (when he chose to please), resulted in the fact that Whistler's society was eagerly courted by the most eminent artistic and intellectual men and r 5 women of his day and generation. His fac- ulty for inspiring people with enthusiasm for himself and for his pictures was simply mar- vellous. This effect which he wrought on his devotees was wittily described by the Paris writer. M. Henri Beraldi, as "the malady of Whistlerium Tremens" and (while it lasted) it was naturally delightful; but the day was sure to come when Whistler would suddenly "turn and rend" his former friend, and after that the friend was never forgiven. So often did this happen that it would be easy to make a tabular list of say a hundred names of more or less distinguished and amiable people who once stood high in the Whistlerian esteem, but of whom nearly everyone had the mis- fortune unconsciously to wound the master's enormous vanity, and so to be written down in his black books with indelible ink. Yet even in these sad circumstances Whistler never allowed his own interest to modify his wrath against the unconscious offender; in- deed, if it was his special interest — monetary or otherwise — to maintain good relations with any man, that was the man of all others whom he was surest to "clapperclaw!" Shakespeare tells us that "troops of friends" are one of the blessings which should accom- pany a happy old age, and Whistler's last 16 years would have been desolate indeed were it not that a few — a very few — faithful souls clung to him to the end. I have particularly in mind an American couple residing in Lon- don, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Pennell, who acted as his very efficient guardian angels to the last; "and all for love, and nothing for re- ward" — as old Edmund Spenser has it. Theirs was the untiring fidelity which "bear- eth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things!" If I were asked why it was that Whistler so assiduously practised "the gentle art of making enemies" (instead of the still gentler art of making friends) I should answer: pri- marily because he liked it! He has on occa- sion recounted to me w T ith high glee the de- tails of one or another of his quarrels, and it must be admitted that he was a brilliant fighter; but such little matters as the logic or the equity of the question in dispute never troubled him at all. His faculty for "mak- ing the worse appear the better reason" w T as quite extraordinary, and often he first put himself entirely in the wrong and then fought a valiant — if a losing battle. Another of his peculiarities was the his- trionic cast of his nature. Queen Victoria once complained of her prime minister, Glad- 17 stone. "He harangues me as if I were a public meeting." Similarly, Whistler was for- ever performing as if he were playing a com- edy before an audience, and it was never easy to determine when he was in serious earnest and when he was only "poking fun." This same theatrical cast of his mind led him, years ago, to change his own name — for Whistler had no more right to assume the middle name of McNeill than the present writer would have to appropriate the middle- name of Plantagenet or Hohenzollern. He was baptized James Abbott Whistler. This fact concerning his legal name is not known to many, but there is incontestable evidence of it; and in his later years there was no surer way of infuriating him than by giving him the name which he received in baptism. The poet Swinburne committed this unpar- donable sin in the dedication of one of his poems. Another of these inconvenient little matters about which Whistler loved to mys- tify and befog the public is the fact that he was born on the ioth of July, 1834, m Worthen Street, Lowell, Mass. Such a stub- born fact as this, however, did not deter him from swearing, during the Sir William Eden lawsuit in Paris, that he was born in Russia! But in Whistler's case, as in the case of very 18 imaginative little children (girls oftener than boys), we should be very careful of condemn- ing them for deliberate lying when they only dramatize a series of imaginary things until at last they come to believe them. People have often suggested to me that, in view of his eccentricities, Whistler must have been a little wrong in the head. Not he ! I have never known a man whose intellect was clearer or more alert. His memory also was very accurate — more especially with regard to all the ins and outs of his numerous quar- rels. Still another of his characteristics was his way of imparting a look of careless precipi- tation to his later paintings and prints, — the truth being that, to the very last, he took in- finite care with every detail of his work, and everyone who has sat to him for a portrait can testify that the master almost killed his sitter with fatigue by reason of his scrupu- lous exactions and repetitions. So long as he was at work on a picture he was intensely in earnest, and it was only in his intercourse with his fellow-men that he assumed the role of poser and performer. He would very rarely answer a letter, but, like Napoleon, generally assumed that a letter would answer itself through the subsequent event. One of 19 the last friendly epistles which I received from him was in acknowledgment of a cut- ting from the New York Tribune, which I had sent him and which contained the an- nouncement of his own marriage. This para- graph, being printed at the top of one of the pages of the newspaper, I utilized the inch of blank margin above by writing on it the fol- lowing verse : One Whistler more, one Godwin less, Two Artists wed this dav; Long mav you each the other bless, So prays your friend F. K. But the inevitable hour was to come when Whistler — like some supposedly tamed wild animal — must suddenly and unprovokedly turn and bite. In my case it happened in this wise : Two well-known American Librarians had collaborated in preparing a pamphlet which was entitled "Guide to the Stucy of James Abbott McNeill Whistler." It was published by the University of the State of New York at Albany and bore on its title- page the names of the joint authors. The sole motive of both the compilers and the Regents of the L niversity was to do honor to Whistler, but it appears that in the little book the incense burned was not pungent 20 enough to suit the nostrils of the illustrious subject. Three copies of the pamphlet were sent to me. One of them I kept and the re- maining two I sent respectively to Mr. Joseph Pennell and Mr. Ernest Brown in London. If I had had a fourth I would have sent it to Whistler himself in the belief that it would have given him pleasure. Six months after- ward I arrived in London and was told by Lady Seymour Haden (Whistler's half-sister) that "her brother Jimmie" had buried his wife that same day. I had known and esteemed the deceased lady, and so I at once wrote to Whistler telling him that his sister had just told me of his bereavement and assuring him of my deep sympathy. My letter made men- tion of this and of nothing else. Next day (the day after his wife's funeral) I received from him a registered letter, the envelope bordered in deepest black and sealed in black wax with his mystic emblem or device of a sort of Whistlerized butterfly. I had not ex- pected so early a reply to my letter of con- dolence, but when I came to read what he had written to me I certainly stared at it in amazement. Here follows his letter, and I do not think that in his published book there is a more brilliant specimen of characteristic abusive Whistlerism than this : 21 St. Judes Cottage, Heath End, Hampstead. Sir: I must not let the occasion of your being in town pass without acknowledging the gratuitous zeal with which you have done your best to further the circulation of one of the most curiously malignant inuendoes, in the way of scurrilous half-assertions, it has been my fate hitherto to meet. Mr. Brown very properly sent on to me the pamphlet you had promptly posted to him. Mr. Pennell also, I rind, you had carefully supplied with a copy — and I have no doubt that, with the untiring energy of the "busy" one, you have smartly placed the pretty work in the hands of many another before this. Personally I am grateful to this activity of yours — for there is no obscurity into which the journalist will not, in time, pry for his paragraph — and, thanks to your unexampled perseverance, I have, though in a circuitous and doubtless unintended way, been enabled now to deal with the authorities of the Amer- ican College, upon whose shelves is allowed to be officially catalogued this grotesque slan- der of a distinguished and absent countryman. Had you sent to me direct, and to me alone, the libellous little book, it would have 22 been my pleasant duty to have thanked you for the kind courtesy — and to have recog- nized, in the warning given, the right impulse of an honorable man. I am, Sir, Your obedient servant, J. McNeill Whistler. Two days later I got an opening to return his undeserved blow; but all that followed is of small interest to the public, who care very much about everything concerning Whistler, but very little about the lesser people who sometimes successfully repelled his unjust attacks. It is obvious that when I received the letter just cited, all my friendly intercourse with this extraordinary man came to an end. Frederick Keppel. 2 3 SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION LIBRARIES 3 9088 00790 7116


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Jan. 28, 2016 -- If a little exercise is good, then more is better in terms of calorie burn and weight loss, right? That's what most of us tend to believe.
But it's not necessarily true, a research team says. They found that people who exercise a lot don't burn extra calories for their efforts beyond a certain point. Their new study is published in Current Biology.
Don't drop that gym membership just yet, though. WebMD asked two experts to discuss these findings and the role of exercise.
The experts include the study's lead researcher, Herman Pontzer, PhD, a professor of anthropology at City University of New York, and Edward L. Melanson, PhD, an associate professor in the division of endocrinology, metabolism, and diabetes at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, Aurora.
On one point both agree: The new research is not discouraging exercise, which is crucial to keeping your body and mind healthy. But it does provide more evidence that diet, not exercise, is the key to losing weight.
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Pontzer and his team measured the daily activity levels of more than 300 men and women -- along with how many calories they burned -- over the course of a week. They came from five different countries across Africa and North America: the U.S., Ghana, Jamaica, the Seychelles, and South Africa. People in some of those nations tend to be more physically active than many Americans.
The researchers had everyone's body mass index (BMI). They measured activity and calorie burning for a week, but didn't track whether people gained or lost weight.
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…Bars, two Seat Bars with Universal Seat Mounts, Cross Bar, two NRS 9' straps and strap slides, two High-Back Drain-Hole Seats and a pair of 6" Oar Mounts. * Attach the Universal Seat Mounts to Cross Bars, then attach the High-Back Drain-Hole Seats to the Seat Mounts. This allows you to adjust seat…
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…Foot Bars, Seat Bar with Universal Seat Mount, two Cross Bars, set of Adjustable Cooler Mounts, two NRS 9' straps and strap slides, High-Back Drain-Hole Seat and pair of 6" Oar Mounts. * Seat bars now use the Universal Seat Mount for attaching the padded seats. Create your rower's seat bar for the…
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…Mounts. * Seat bars now use the Universal Seat Mount for attaching the padded seats. Create your rower's seat bar for the High-Back Drain-Hole Seat by U-bolting the Universal Seat Mount to the cross bar. This allows you to precisely set the location of the seat and the seat angle. Please note: NRS…
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The midfielder has so far made six appearances for the County Ground side on loan this season, scoring two goals, having made nine appearances during a loan spell with the League One side from March to May last season.
The Australian previously played on loan at Ipswich Town and made one First Team appearance in our colours at Stoke City in the League Cup in September 2011.
We wish Massimo all the best for the future.
23 June 2016
We are delighted to announce that we have completed the transfer of Victor Wanyama from Southampton.
27 March 2016
Our Academy brushed off the disappointment of a 2-1 defeat to Japan High School Selection to beat Fortuna Dusseldorf 1-0 on Sunday (March 27) and book a place in the semi-finals of the Under-19 Champions Trophy in Dusseldorf, Germany.
18 March 2016
Erik Lamela has declared on 100 - declared his love for all things Spurs, that is!
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