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Skip to comments.'Iran must steer clear of US interests in the Gulf'
Posted on 09/03/2012 9:35:10 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie
Washington reportedly sends Tehran indirect message saying it will not back Israeli strike on nuclear facilities as long as Iran refrains from attacking American facilities in Persian Gulf
The United States has indirectly informed Iran, via two European nations, that it would not back an Israeli strike against the country's nuclear facilities, as long as Tehran refrains from attacking American interests in the Persian Gulf, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.
According to the report, Washington used covert back-channels in Europe to clarify that the US does not intend to back Israel in a strike that may spark a regional conflict.
In return, Washington reportedly expects Iran to steer clear of strategic American assets in the Persian Gulf, such as military bases and aircraft carriers.
Israeli officials reported an unprecedented low in the two nations' defense ties, which stems from the Obama administration's desire to warn Israel against mounting an uncoordinated attack on Iran.
The New York Times reported Monday that US President Barack Obama is promoting a series of steps meant to curb an Israeli offensive against Iran, while forcing the Islamic Republic to take the nuclear negotiations more seriously.
One of the steps considered is "an official declaration by Obama about what might bring about American military action, as well as covert activities that have been previously considered and rejected," the report said.
Several of Obama's top advisors believe that Jerusalem is seeking an unequivocal American statement regarding a US strike on Iran should it actively pursue a nuclear bomb.
Israel hopes such a statement is made during Obama's address before the UN General Assembly on September 25.
Others in the White House said Israel is trying to drag the US into an unnecessary conflict in the Gulf.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that "There is absolutely no daylight between the United States and Israel when it comes to preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon."
Carney said that all options remain on the table for Iran. He said the "window for diplomacy remains open," adding that the diplomatic process remains the best way to deal with the Islamic Republic, though "that window will not remain open indefinitely."
Cyber war a go?
According to the New York Times, Washington has also sent Iran a back-channel deal suggesting they curb their nuclear ambitions, but Tehran rejected the deal, saying no agreement is possible sans lifting all West-imposed sanctions.
According to the report, the Obama administration is exploring the possibility of mounting a covert operation, as well as waging a "quiet" cyber war against Iran.
President Obama had previously rejected the notion, fearing such cyber assaults would wreak havoc on Iranian civilian life.
Later in September, the United States and more than 25 other nations will hold the largest-ever minesweeping exercise in the Persian Gulf, in what military officials say is a demonstration of unity and a defensive step to prevent Iran from attempting to block oil exports through the Strait of Hormuz.
In fact, the United States and Iran have each announced what amounted to dueling defensive exercises to be conducted this fall, each intended to dissuade the other from attack.
Suppose Israel attacks before the election. The US doesn't support them.
Does that October surprise help Zero or Romney?
Leading from behind. The 'Coward in Chief' strikes again.
Lets be clear here.
Obama- not America- will not back Israel.
The American people and the American military would.
Or else, what?
All the people who would be gratified by a hands off policy towards Iran will vote for Obama anyway. If it looks like Obama is winning, Israel will attack to try to influence the election. If Obama is losing, they will wait for Romney. With U.S. assistance dismantling Iran's nuclear weapons will be orders of magnitude easier.
We are not going to get involved in nation building or try to make friends in Iran. We will grind their economic and military assets into dust and let them pick up the pieces, unlike in Iraq and Afghanistan. Big mistake in the former two countries.
One of the steps considered is "an official declaration by Obama about what might bring about American military action, as well as covert activities that have been previously considered and rejected," the report said.............................. Uhhhh? Covert? like letting them know in advance? Lets face it folks, the area is too important to mess up. We must consider the $$$$$ factor here. Most nations are at the point of bankruptcy, can we afford any involvement? We're between a rock and a hard place here. Here is where Leadership is really needed. Obama, you better go to the opinion polls or maybe ask your wife what to do. (Like Clinton would, according to Hillary. Oh wait she works for you now?) LOL, the Mullahs must be laughing their butts off.
Subtext: "Pretty please do not retaliate against US forces in the Gulf area WHEN Israel attacks you, Iran. We won't be coming in after them with follow-up strikes against you, so can you please direct all of your retaliatory missile strikes on Tel Aviv? Thank you very much!"
Certainly doesn't help him maintain 80% of the Jewish vote.
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Look, not only is this the correct thing to do but it is... in my opinion as Attorney General that it is the legal thing to do--
And when Obama has flexibility after the election... I'll get my one million dollars--
I cannot recall when the cockles of my heart... were ever this warm.
You know, watching the Democrat Convention makes me warm--
But it ain't... the cockles of my heart!
Eye God, Bender... them traitorous sons-a-bitches are serious!
Yeah, they are, Gus... they surely are--
Yes, even I, Shirley... agrees here--
The incentive for Iran to refrain from attacking our interests should be fear of OUR retaliation, not allowing Israel to do what they need to do.
Waiting until after the election does them no good. If Obama wins, they are cooked and should have gone in beforehand. If Romney wins, Obama will still be in power until January, perhaps too long to wait.
If Israel wages a "soft", "targeted" war using cyber weapons, non nuclear EMPs, commando raids, and cruise missle attacks they might be able to get away with it. Obama will be in trouble with the Jewish vote. If it goes badly for Israel and Obama does nothing, I don't believe that America wants to see Israel destroyed.
It's terrifying to know they were stupid enough to elect him the first time.
If a person has a IQ above room temperature, it would be impossible for them to back this guy.
Dear Leader, how has that been working for the USA? Iran is a state that is sponsoring terrorism around the world. There are embassy bombings, there are attacks on troops that Iranian operatives have been organizing and leading for over a decade. Many of the IED's killing our soldiers in the Middle East are from Iran.
In short we are at war with Iran and have been for a long time. It is not a publicly declared war, but it still is war. They are not going to stop attacking our interests in the Middle East, Africa, South/Central America. So our backing or not backing Israel will have nothing to do with preventing future attacks.
Dear Leader, you are either very dumb, or you think that the public is so stupid they will accept what you say as truth. How sad.
Ahmadennyjerk sends a letter to Hussein, agreeing to the deal. Israel attacks and Ahmadennyjerk attacks our ships. He says, I don't deal with America, the big Satan.
Israel has to attack before Ahmadennyjerk puts vital machinery so deep into the new underground facility, that Israel can't destroy it with bombs. I think they have come to the point it has to be done now.
Hussein doesn't care if Israel is totally destroyed, every Jew killed. Israel has a motto, "Never again." I expect an attack this month or next.
Washington reportedly sends Tehran indirect message saying it will not back Israeli strike on nuclear facilities as long as Iran refrains from attacking American facilities in Persian Gulf...There, that should work. /s
You'll see, mac daddy will issue a strongly worded e-mail, in bold cap's, telling them how really, really, really mad he is with them.
There that should do it, now back to more important things like my golfing.
The infinite ignorance displayed in that story is sky-rocket spectacular. The notion, for example, that a cyber attack would somehow stop the Persians from building something, anything, is nothing but blowhardiness. If nothing else is said remember that we didn't need computers to build our first bomb and we really don't need them to build much of anything now including bombs. Especially on-line computers. While computer aided machinery can be very efficient and is certainly labor saving it did not start the industrial revolution——but it does allow more Persian kids to stay in the basement down at the Casbah.
"U.S. War Game Sees Perils of Israeli Strike Against Iran"
"WASHINGTON A classified war simulation held this month to assess the repercussions of an Israeli attack on Iran forecasts that the strike would lead to a wider regional war, which could draw in the United States and leave hundreds of Americans dead, according to American officials."
IMO, what is despicable and traitorous is Obama's failure to guarantee that Iranian retaliatory capability against US forces and our Israeli ally will be taken out on day one before most of them can be used rather than after most are expended at both US and Israeli civilian and military targets.
Lots of folks mis-understand what it takes to shut down the Persians nuke program. First off the Bushehr reactor is right on the coast. Just as Saddam did, a few well placed bunker busters and it is history for another decade or two. Remember it is the source of their spent fuel to re-process. Let them bury centrifuges as deep as they want. It just makes a better gravesite. When the power to them goes out, and the water disappears, they will be as effective as a well-buried Egyptian mummy. I realy think the Persians have no idea what is probably coming after them. While the nimrods in the media make the most of how deep the Persian nuke hole is that simply isn't what the most effective /expensive target is.
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The American Military will do exactly what they are commanded to do by their Commander in Chief and to think otherwise is pure folly.
"While the nimrods in the media make the most of how deep the Persian nuke hole is that simply isnt what the most effective /expensive target is."
My info. about that comes from Netanyahu and Defense Minister Barack some months ago. I don't know what Iran wants deep underground (could be the advanced missiles they need to carry the bomb) but that was talked of by those two as being the catalyst that would push them to take out facilities. I think they can't wait any longer based on present warnings by Netanyahu. I don't think he is bluffing.
Thanks familyop.
Iran has no reason to fear provoking the US. Besides the current extreme submissiveness from Obama, there is the longstanding Bush/Obama policy of ignoring Iran's action against our troops in Iraq & Afghanistan.
Someone like Rush or Dennis Prager should give out an annual Neville Chamberlain Award for stuff like this.
That would only be true if they vote for Mitt Romney; try getting the vocal minority on FR to agree to that; all the rest is just empty rhetoric.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
They are all corrupt, it's just a matter of how much. (I, personally, have bribed Chicago cops. Sorry, welcome to the Real World.)
That anyone else would vote for this pond scum is simply a demonstration of their position on the left side of the IQ Bell Curve.
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The paper market is the big problem.
The true market value of gold and silver is unknown because of this. But having said that, the Rothschilds set the price to whatever they want it to be.
If people are getting out of paper then that will lower the price. If their are margin calls then people will get out of paper. If prices go below a 'sell stop' then paper will be automatically sold off, thus further reducing the price.
So even though gold and silver sales are still going through the roof the value can be offset by that. Remember, there is more paper gold and silver out there these days than physical. Naked short selling is criminal and should be outlawed.
The bubble hasnt burst because they control the bubble. They can keep it going as long as they want to.
People forget that they, the Rothschilds etc etc, are in control. If/when they want the bubble to burst then they will let it burst. But not sooner nor later.
One other thing to keep in mind, under a global financial system gold and silver may not even be allowed to be used as a currency.
Many many people out there think they can survive the global financial crash by having gold and silver. Please remember that the new banking system that rises up out of the ashes of the old banking system will most likely be purely digital. And you will have to take the mark of the beast if you want to buy or sell.
So no one can truly prepare financially for whats to come.
You can stock pile all the gold and silver in the world, but if Rothschilds say, "sorry, we have a new financial system and new rules/laws and they dont include trading of gold and silver" then what are people going to do? Oh oh! Theyll be sitting on metals they cant do anything with.
But lets hope they won't do this to us.
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"The Luckiest" is a song by Ben Folds on the 2001 album Rockin' the Suburbs. The song was originally written for the 2000 movie release, Loser (directed by Amy Heckerling) and was deleted from the movie along with the scene it was written for, making its way that year onto the album Rockin' the Suburbs. A live version of the song in which Folds was the exclusive performer appeared on his 2002 album, Ben Folds Live. The DVD Ben Folds and WASO - Live in Perth closes out with a rendition of the song played by Folds and the West Australian Symphony Orchestra. The song is sampled in Novel's song "I Am." Ben Folds Five was an alternative rock trio formed in 1993 in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. The group comprised Ben Folds on vocals, piano, and principal songwriting; Robert Sledge played bass and provided backing vocals; and Darren Jessee played drums, sang backing vocals and co-wrote some of the.
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Ben Folds Five was an alternative rock trio formed in 1993 in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. The group comprised Ben Folds on vocals, piano, and principal songwriting; Robert Sledge played bass and provided backing vocals; and Darren Jessee played drums, sang backing vocals and co-wrote some of the songs. The group achieved modest success in the alternative, indie and pop music scenes. The band is best known for the hit single "Brick" from their 1997 album Whatever and Ever Amen, which gained airplay on many mainstream radio stations. Much of Ben Folds Five's work was influenced by jazz, evident in frequent improv-styled passages through bridge and/or ending. During their seven years together, the band released three proper studio records, one retrospective album of B-sides & outtakes, and eight singles. They also contributed to a number of soundtracks and compilations. Ben Folds Five disbanded in October 2000, apparently under amicable circumstances. The group reunited for a one-off concert on September 18, 2008, where they played their final album, The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner, in its entirety. "The Luckiest" is a song by Ben.
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redistrumps May 21, 2009
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I cannot go Saturday but will be there Tuesday. Saturday should be perfect though, great weather, weekend night, I don't know what I was thinking when I purchased Tuesday over Saturday. Anyway will watch from home and cheer like I'm there.
StunGunn May 21, 2009
Sports Legend
dmarley2 - I hope you bring them luck on Saturday! I'm worried about Cole and Ruutu; their potential absence from Game 2 doesn't bode well for our usual success in that game. Let's hope they can split the series in Pittsburg and come back to Raleigh with the series tied, and enjoy home cookin'. GO CANES!!!
dmarley2 May 20, 2009
All Star
I'll be at game 3 on Saturday, but other than that I'll be cheering from either home or the firehouse - I have to work on the nights of game 4 and a potential game 6, so I'm stoked to have the opportunity to go see the boys in person on Saturday.
StunGunn May 20, 2009
Sports Legend
View quoted threadHere we go again... I still don't understand how people are calling that a "sucker punch" - Ward was looking straight at Scott Walker when he hit him. He didn't sneak up on him from behind, or hit him blindsided - Ward was trying to get rough with Matt Cullen, Walker skated in and forearm-shivered him off of Matty, threw his glove off, squared up, and layed the wood to him. Ward had his hands down at his sides and was looking directly at Walker. How is that a sucker punch?
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I think this will be thrown in our faces until the season is over, which I'm hoping isn't until mid-June for the Canes! Ward was picking on a player he knew wasn't a fighter (Cullen), and Walker came to help out his team mate. I'm glad Walker wasn't suspended. And for all the fuss about a broken orbital, Roddy's face looked a lot more bruised after being hit by the puck than Ward's did. dmarley2 - are you going to any of the games? I'll be cheering from home.
dmarley2 May 19, 2009
All Star
Here we go again... I still don't understand how people are calling that a "sucker punch" - Ward was looking straight at Scott Walker when he hit him. He didn't sneak up on him from behind, or hit him blindsided - Ward was trying to get rough with Matt Cullen, Walker skated in and forearm-shivered him off of Matty, threw his glove off, squared up, and layed the wood to him. Ward had his hands down at his sides and was looking directly at Walker. How is that a sucker punch?
Cragsdale May 15, 2009
Sports Legend
Bruins lost AGAIN! Nuff' Said!
AlphaTraz May 15, 2009
hahahahah! I thought we "awoke the sleeping bear"..."the bear den wants blood tonight"...hahahahahahah! I guess all that talk was just a "crock of Beans"....hahahahaha!
mistersinister May 15, 2009
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how is Chara dirty? you need to realize that hockey goes back before the hurricanes and see some tapes of Claude Lemieux, Ulf Samuelson, or Todd Bertuzzi ending a mans career with one punch. You make it seem like Chara is driving peoples heads into the boards when the ref isn't looking.
Just because that moron Tripp Tracy says something is or isn't a penalty, doesn't make it so. I noticed that he didn't say a word when Cole caught Kobasew with a stick to face at 7:41 in the 2nd, so it must not be a penalty then.
Was a good series and a good win for the Canes, best of luck with Pittsburgh. Also, thanks to Scott Walkers wife for helping him "overcome adversity". I guess sucker punching someone takes a mental toll. Such a load of garbage. GL next round.
Claude626 May 15, 2009
Towel Boy
Throughout this series, I always felt that the officials were favoring the b-Ruins, Chara got way too much leeway, he is the dirtiest player I have seen, so glad to see the Bruins get dumped out........
none_given May 12, 2009
Towel Boy
Wow - Cane's fans are whiners. I've been to many games at the RBC, rooting for the Canes, and every single time a Cane gets checked the whole arean groans and screams for a penalty. It's really pretty funny.
This is hockey, not ballet people. To me, the officiating had seemed pretty reasonable. Not perfect, but not horrible. As for Tripp being neutral, puh-leeez.
StunGunn May 12, 2009
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View quoted threadHave you noticed most of the negative comments about the Canes are coming from the Durham area? The New Jersey loss killed them so now they have switched over to the Bruins. I'll be the first to admit that there are some rules that I don't understand after watching the game for 40 years. I played organized baseball and football from 6 years old to 21 years old and I can say I probably don't have all the rules of of these games memorized. But to finally have a team in Carolina and a chance to watch them live? I could care less if I know all the rules are not. I love sitting at the RBC and watching these guys skate. I may not know all the rules but I know all the Hurricanes by their number and first name.
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You know what really counts, chuck2 - you're a good fan! Don't let some jerk on this site tell you otherwise. If the only people allowed to watch or comment on the games were the people who knew all the rules, well, hockey and all other sports would have a pretty small audience. Keep watching and cheering, chuck2 - I don't know all the rules either, and I don't care - the more I watch, the more I learn. GO CANES!
chuck2 May 12, 2009
Have you noticed most of the negative comments about the Canes are coming from the Durham area? The New Jersey loss killed them so now they have switched over to the Bruins. I'll be the first to admit that there are some rules that I don't understand after watching the game for 40 years. I played organized baseball and football from 6 years old to 21 years old and I can say I probably don't have all the rules of of these games memorized. But to finally have a team in Carolina and a chance to watch them live? I could care less if I know all the rules are not. I love sitting at the RBC and watching these guys skate. I may not know all the rules but I know all the Hurricanes by their number and first name.
dmarley2 May 11, 2009
All Star
Not selective stats - I was just under the impression that we were talking about the playoffs. You know, as in present time - not the all-important regular season meetings. The reason I say that Staal has handled Chara is because that has been the matchup. And like I said, the stats and performance say it all:
Staal- 5 pts, +2
Chara - 0 pts, -4
I don't know, I guess little things like that don't really matter. A goon who is more physical than people smaller than him is what really counts. But then again, what should you expect from me? I also think playoff stats are more important than regular season stats. Silly me, I'm from the south, so of course I don't know anything about hockey.
I guess if the Canes win tomorrow, we'll see john and marshall disappear as suddenly as they showed up. Can't wait to go to the game and try to keep up with whatever is going on down on that icy looking stuff.
edits May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
You know what imarshall2, there is not a team in hockey that does not have players that take cheap shots or take dives, they all do it. Some get caught, some don't. Sometimes it just depends on when they do it, where they do it and how the game has been played up to that point. For example, Ruutu did it last night on a delayed/late offsides call. He dropped his stick beside the net and went and crunched a Bruin into the wall. It was really uncalled for but wasn't called, but could have been. Like I said in a previous post, I am not a fair weather fan, I am a fair fan. It is what it is.
imarshall2 May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
No respect for the Cranes. They are a dirty, cheap shot, bunch of cry babies!! The fans most of them have no idea how the game is played, they cry every time a crane goes down (or dives) I go to a dozen or so games a year and most of their fans have no clue. Most teams in the NHL are always complaining how the cranes are always taking a dive and what a bunch of cheap shots they are.
StunGunn May 11, 2009
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No one should mess with you! Enjoy the game tomorrow night and bring our guys some luck!
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
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I'll keep that argument up, as we must have different definitions of manhandling. To me its more physical than scoring goals, unless you said Staal manhandled Thomas, which he did, but nothing you could say would have me agree that Staal ever manhandled Chara. But you seem to be limited in the time scale you look at, completely ignoring the 4 times these teams met during the regular season. Selective statistics, nice.
dmarley2 May 11, 2009
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Just for the record, I am not too offended with the way this series has been called - questionable officiating seems to be the norm in sports lately, so its really a non-issue. (as in, I don't really expect good officiating, so I'm not surprised)
As for the cheap shots and such, its been OBVIOUS to anyone with functioning eyes that the Ruins have been guilty of several - the Canes outplayed them for 3 straight games, and with each period of each game, the frustration was undoubtedly growing - naturally, that frustration is going to manifest in more physicality on the ice.
Was Scotty's punch last night a bit dirty? I guess - but he certainly didn't "sucker punch" Ward. Ward was getting rough with Cullen and Walker came to his defense. As kenny said, Walker was just quicker than Ward.
And yes, I believe Eric Staal will go back to "manhandling" Chara in game 6 - at least I hope so. (I couldn't help but notice how quickly johnc dropped that argument when I put up the numbers)
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
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Fair enough, and the panic business was kind of funny.
I'm out of here so good luck to your team tomorrow.
edits May 11, 2009
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Sorry for the incorrectly spelled word. Don't like lap top keyboards.
No junior college psych evaluations here, just my opinion and according to what you just said, that is perfectly OK. I do know what state Hartford is in and I know what state the Bruins are in, it is called PANIC.
Why do you say fanboy? I'm a chick. The ranks need to be changed to include the female gender. You two are still my chumps for the day though, I don't really care what you think.
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
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Are the Hurrucanes a farm team for the Hurricanes?
I didn't know the rules about the forum. I thought I could comment on whatever post I wanted. How boring would this forum be if it was just Canes fans going back and forth about who's the bigger Canes fanboy? Want to keep people out, then you should start your own forum and make it exclusive, or if you're the admin, ban my account. But please save the junior college psych. 101 evaluations.
Do you even know what state Hartford is in?
edits May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
You get "Chumps" for the day! I didn't see anyone cryng in this series except for Chara Julien and some Boston fan they showed on TV before the game the other night.
My thoughts are that all you Carolina Hurrucanes Haters have more serious issues with yourselves and instead of working on you, you pick on someone else.
Get a firetruckin' life and if you don't have naything nice to say about OUR CANES and OUR FANS then stay the you know what off of OUR posts!
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
The word neutral was used in a post on page 1, where someone said he had to remain neutral, which is laughable and where I got it from. I don't assume southerners in general don't understand hockey, just a large number of them aren't clear what constitutes a penalty and what doesn't. Not sure why that would bother you. It wouldn't bother me if you thought I was just some northern a-hole (even though I've lived here almost half my life), as its your opinion.
I didn't catch Lucic over at the Canes bench, as I changed it at the horn to see the 4th quarter of the Celtics but he could have just been asking about dinner plans, or seeing if the Canes had tee times scheduled... I hope he doesn't do anything stupid as any payback on Walker can wait and he's more valuable on the ice.
kennywalters May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
Why should Tripp Tracy be neutral? I mean seriously. What team is he working for, the Bruins? No. He works for the Canes. By the way John, the fans in Boston whine just as hard when one of their players gets hit I'm sure. Every fan thinks their team is getting the short end of the stick. However, do not assume that just because we're from the South that we do not understand hockey. I agree it is a tough game, but the Bruins have been real chippy since the Canes went ahead in this series, especially Lucic. I don't condone Walker's actions and am surprised he didn't get at least one game off. However, I also do not condone the way Aaron Ward chose to go after Matt Cullen in a 4-0 game or that Lucic decided to trash talk the bench when the game was over. Game 6 will probably be called tight as a drum now and I imagine there will be a lot of power plays. Hopefully, they won't remain at a 2-1 Bruin advantage.
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
I completely agree, playoff hockey is rougher and mean, I just prefer it not to be dirtier (think Claude Lemieux), but its a 2 way street. 90% of the posts on here are just whining about how the Canes are getting the shaft, the Bruins get away with whatever they want and are the only team that pushes and shoves after the whistle.
I didn't think Ward knew a fight was coming, at least not with Walker but oh well. Suspensions have been erratic and inconsistent across the board. I'm over it and have moved on. I do wish someone would cheap shot Paul Maurice like that though. What a d-bag that guy is.
And yes, Tripp Tracy has a man crush on Staal and quite possibly Jokinen. I find listening to his "neutral" commentary painful. Forslund is good though, although I don't appreciate his enthusiasm when the Canes score.
reese74 May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
Hey John,
It wasn't the most civilized thing Walker has done. But was nowhere near the same as the hits that the Canes have taken either. Don't you think Sean Avery's hit to Andrew Ladd was dirtier? How about Colton Orr giving Cullen a concussion with his stick? Look at the video - Ward knew a fight was coming - Walker just got his gloves off quicker. You can't blame Scotty for sticking up for Cullen. I do agree that the instigating rule should be enforced. But, I'm not going to argue that he only got a fine. It's playoff hockey. It's dirty, rough, and mean. That's what this sport is about. Besides, we all know that Ovechkin is the one that gets away with murder. At least what I've seen so far in the playoffs.
StunGunn May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
I just hope tomorrow's game is not one filled with penalties. I'd personally love to see Lurch flattened, but our main objective is to beat the Beanie Babies and be done with them. I agree that the Canes have gotten the short end of the stick with phantom penalties, and oh, yeah that goal that everyone saw was a goal except the ref and the guys in Toronto. No one has done Carolina any favors. I never noticed Tripp Tracy having a man crush on Staal, but if that's the way you feel,johnc, maybe you won't mind getting them a room tomorrow night, and as for the "Candy Canes", well, they'll do their talking on the ice tomorrow, and I'm sure it won't be "sweet", other than sweet revenge. GO CANES!
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
Ok, so I'm not bright when it comes to Canes fans, I can live with that, but I've been to enough games down here, including the exhibition game back in Greensboro (Rangers vs. Pens) and the crowd goes crazy whenever the blessed red and white even gets bumped into. Sure, the officiating may suck, but look at the fact that Walker got no suspension. I'm fine with that too, but enough already with the whining about not getting calls.
What goes around comes around, and thats been the rule for at least as long as I've been watching hockey. Just don't try and tell me that a) that punch wasn't cheap and cowardly and b) that you wouldn't be upset if the roles were reversed.
That shot will come back to haunt Walker, I just hope its either next season or at the earliest, game 7 back in Boston.
Cragsdale May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
Johncarreiro, first off, you're not real bright when it comes to canes fans. Second, it's one thing to call a game close in both directions, it's another to have penalty in min being a 2 - to - 1 odds favor the Bruins in a Playoff series. And third, even the ESPN analysts, TV commentators, fans from both teams (yes I know some bruins fans who agree the games are being called lopsided and it makes this series very much worthless to watch in some cases) and just about anyone whose watched hockey a few times all know and are saying there are a lot of bad calls being made and even more no calls. You can't knee a guy in the side when he's down on the ice up against the boards, smash his head into the ice, there's only so much face pushing and punching after a wistle that's supposed to be allowed, god the list can go on and on but I've made my point.
So sure, hockey is a physical sport, but just like all sports there are rules and the Bruins aren't being held to the same accountability as teh rest of the league. The Boston player not also recieving a 5min Fighting major for throwing punches back at Walker is case in point.
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
Wow, way to stay on topic.
You know, its tough pulling for the only team in the NHL to initiate extracurricular activity after the whistle. I guess thats what the Bruins brought to the table when the NHL was created.
I wonder how you hockey knowledgable Canes fans would be reacting if Aaron Ward would have clocked Walker, breaking his orbital bone while his hands were at his sides, and then Claude Julien joked about it. Of course, if that were the case, THEN it would be a cheap shot.
I've met quite a few hockey fans from a wide assortment of teams, but Canes fans are always the ones that can't seem to grasp that hockey is a physical game. Anything happens to someone in the red and white, the crowd screams for a call, regardless if its from a hit, or the guy just lost an edge with no one near him. Watch some of the other series and you'll see that extracurricular activity exists in every series and game, not just your poor little Canes getting the mush.
kennywalters May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
I know that the Canes have been to the Stanley Cup finals twice this decade and came up on the victorious side in 06. I know that the Bruins love to initiate extracurricular activity after the whistle. I also know that all these transplant Bruins fans can get out of NC if they don't like it here. Go back to Massachusetts where your senators can kill people and get away with it because their last name is Kennedy.
dmarley2 May 11, 2009
All Star
Completely agree with you, jack - but then again, what do we know about hockey down here in the south?
jacktheripper May 11, 2009
Bench Warmer
I think the reason why the Canes players got so chippy last night was due to the fact that they have been getting the shaft this entire series. Everytime there is a scrum after the play you can see Chara or some other Bruin in there giving some glove love (from time to time this is just part of the game, but not every single time). I think it all just came to a head last night.
Canes players were tired of getting called on cheap hooks and stick holding calls when Bruins players have been getting away with blatant trips/boarding calls all series. I think they figured as long as this game(game 5) is over we are going to start earning some of these penalties. If the Bruins try and come to Raleigh on Tuesday and get away with some of the same old stuff the Canes have been letting slide up to this point I think you will find there will be a lot more gloves dropped in a lot shorter preiod of time. GO CANES!!!!
dmarley2 May 11, 2009
All Star
I was a hockey fan before we ever got the Canes, and I mos def know the rules, so your blanket statement about Canes fans was not necessarily true. I'd also like to know which Canes player cried or accused the refs of cheating - I haven't seen ANYONE in this series crybabying or making excuses except for Claude Julien.
I will say one thing - The Ruins cheap shots have been more subtle than what we saw from Scotty last night. Certainly doesn't qualify as a "sucker punch" as some are calling it, but still not a good play.
As for examples of sportsmanship, how about thug Lucic going over to the Canes bench AFTER the game and running off at the mouth trying to start something? Or Ruins fans throwing stuff onto the ice?
jbritt May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
I figured out what the "B" on their sweaters stands for . . . and it is neither Boston nor Bruins.
dmarley2 May 11, 2009
All Star
"As for Staal 'manhandling' Chara, when does this happen? Is that what you call it when he makes a run at Zdeno and then bounces off?"
No, that's what I call it when Staal has dominated in terms of stats and productivity, not the fact that the biggest player in the history of the league is hard to knock down - that's pretty obvious.
Let's be real and look at the Staal/Chara matchup going into Sunday's game:
Staal - 5 pts, +2
Chara - 0 pts, -4
You're right, johncarreiro - I guess its been pretty even, huh? Yes, I know Chara stepped up last night, but my comment was made before last night - and as you can see, it was indisputable.
johncarreiro May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
Tripp Tracy remains neutral? Thats the funniest thing I've read in a while. Thank you. That guy sweats Eric Staal like he's his wife and listening to him, you'd think the Candy-canes invented the sport. There's nothing neutral about his so called analyzing.
As for Staal "manhandling" Chara, when does this happen? Is that what you call it when he makes a run at Zdeno and then bounces off? Oh, and nice cheap shot by Walker to possibly take out a defenseman, and then have the classless coach laugh about it. Win at all costs I guess huh Caniacs?
imarshall2 May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
Carolina fans are the worst in all of the NHL, they don,t know the game rules they cry everytime there guys are hit. Carolina has a reputation of taking falls. Canes players are the dirty ones, tried to chop off Chara ankle, threw a cheap shot to the face of one of the Bruins and broke his bone now maybe out for the rest of the playoffs!! Talk about dirty unsportsmanlike players!!! if things don,t go there way your fans and your players do nothing but cry and call the refs cheaters, yes the refs don,t always get it right but it has gone both ways.
imarshall2 May 11, 2009
Towel Boy
Must be from Carolina, it,s Hockey when they use a stick and a little black disk (NFL)
StunGunn May 11, 2009
Sports Legend
View quoted threadIt's the ice's fault - the ice in the RBC center isn't the right temperature.
I mean, isn't it obvious? - it's the Zamboni driver's fault - he doesn't do the right pattern between periods.
No wait, it's Sidney Lowe and Bill Cowher's fault - the way they sound the siren creates an unfair disadvantage for the Ruins.
Hold on - I think the Canes are up 3-1 because of all the rain we've had the past week or so - everybody knows that teams who wear red benefit tremendously from precipitation. I really think that the NHL should look into this.
It certainly has nothing to do with the fact that the Canes are out-skating, out-hustling, out-defensing and downright out-playing the Ruins. Quit being a crybaby Julien, and take losing like a man. Crybaby.
— Posted by dmarley2
Funny dmarley:-) I like all your theories. Well, it's going to rain today, so I hope it rains - GOALS - for us tomorrow!
Go Canes!!!!
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edits May 10, 2009
Sports Legend
dmarley2: You are hurting me! Literally. I am laughing so hard now that I am really hurting. I have a mildly bruised lung and chest wall contusion and it really hurts, especially when I cough, breathe and especially laugh.
dmarley2 May 10, 2009
All Star
Oh yeah, I forgot one thing - GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!
dmarley2 May 10, 2009
All Star
It's the ice's fault - the ice in the RBC center isn't the right temperature.
I mean, isn't it obvious? - it's the Zamboni driver's fault - he doesn't do the right pattern between periods.
No wait, it's Sidney Lowe and Bill Cowher's fault - the way they sound the siren creates an unfair disadvantage for the Ruins.
Hold on - I think the Canes are up 3-1 because of all the rain we've had the past week or so - everybody knows that teams who wear red benefit tremendously from precipitation. I really think that the NHL should look into this.
It certainly has nothing to do with the fact that the Canes are out-skating, out-hustling, out-defensing and downright out-playing the Ruins. Quit being a crybaby Julien, and take losing like a man. Crybaby.
edits May 10, 2009
Sports Legend
From my previous post don't misunderstand, I meant the officiating has been good, in fact great for the Bruins.
edits May 10, 2009
Sports Legend
Officiating has been good, it's been great for the Bruins.
Julien is running out of excuses. First it was the hockeys gods , then he blamed the team then the refs, now it's the coach, who isn't even on the ice (see video under "Canes Today")! Next he's gonna be blaming the fans, then after that he will be blaming the Penguins or the Capitals. Whatever! Hopefully tonight the excuses that have come pouring out of his mouth will come to an end. He just needs to go ahead and admit that his team has run into a team that is playing better and wants it more and does not take anything for granted. Happy Mother's Day! Especially to my two hockey mom peeps devilshhockeygirl and jgunn!
dmarley2 May 10, 2009
All Star
No respect for the Bruins. They are simply a dirty team. You can always see a team's (or individual's) true colors when things aren't going good, and they are proving themselves to be cheap-shot artists. Must suck to be as big as Chara and still be getting man-handled by Staal. We will definitely see things get ugly on Sunday, especially if the Canes score first. The frustration of getting dumped on for the past week has undoubtedly gotten the best of Boston.
dexterpyro69 May 9, 2009
Towel Boy
The officiating has been very very bad...The Bruins get the canes on the ice and do pushed their heads in the ice. If we jump out to a lead in Game 5....fists are going to start flying....Carolina has been disciplined so far but we can only take so much....
gtr May 9, 2009
Sports Legend
It's always funny when fans of the winning team complain about officiating.
toastingyoureffort May 9, 2009
Towel Boy
The NFL?
jbrothers513 May 8, 2009
Towel Boy
What was up with the ref's tonight? It's almost like the NFL wants the Bruins to win.
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