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Kevin (San Antonio)
Love your articles Matt. Now a couple questions about the Redskins-Lions game. I feel it was the wrong call to go for it on 4th and 10 on our own 25 with over 3 minutes left and 2 timeouts. I felt we should have punted and let our defense do its job. What do you think? And also, do you think there is any chance of the Redskins getting Randy Moss? A big threat receiver would be a huge addition for the Redskins.
Mosley (12:01 PM)
As desperate as the Skins are for firepower at wideout, I'd steer clear of Moss right now. I just read Mike Silver's Yahoo! story about Moss' treatment of some caterers at the Minny facility. I'd want no part of a guy who acts that way. Yes, I think it was the wrong call to go for it there.
Drew (Charlotte)
How about John Fox to Dallas.. Do you honestly think that either Gruden or Cowher could handle Jerry?
Mosley (12:02 PM)
Fox is a good name that I keep forgetting to mention. If they go the interim route pretty quickly here, I'd look for Paul Pasqualoni to take over. But I think Gruden and Fox are both good names. Hey, Fox is 1-6 right now, so he's had some good preparation for taking over the Cows.
Eli Manning (New York)
What will it take for me to stop being considered overrated?
Mosley (12:04 PM)
When your brother is Peyton Manning, it comes with the territory. Eli's having a really nice career, so I wouldn't worry about all that overrated stuff. I don't think he worries about it.
Dustin (NC)
Due to Spencers poor play, would it hurt to kick the tires of Shawne Merriman to see what he has left? Anything close to his old form would be a big help in the pass rush.
Mosley (12:04 PM)
Nah, I don't think he's in the plans at all. It's not like Wade's getting to bring his old players in. Wade's a short timer.
Scott (Albany NY)
On Mike & Mike Tim Hasselback indicated that the Eagles had major problems w/ McNabb's tempo during practices as well. Have you heard the same things and just how widely regarded is McNabb around the league?
Mosley (12:05 PM)
I think folks think highly of McNabb. It's pretty easy to start talking about "tempo in practice" when something like this happens. I know Shanny has plenty of apologists out there. Hey, the guy made a goofy decision at the end of the game. Let's just live with it. It's not some type of indictment on McNabb as a practice player. I think that's overblown.
Alex (Washington, DC)
What are the Odds Randy Moss lands in DC? I mean I like the idea, but I won't be surprised if we don't get him.
Mosley (12:06 PM)
I think Mike Shanahan will steer clear -- for now.
Kevin (NJ)
When facing the Giants who do you think teams double team or fear more, Tuck or Osi?
Mosley (12:06 PM)
Tuck's the more versatile player because he can play well inside. Osi's more dangerous in the pass rush right now.
Patrick (NYC)
Chris Snee is the most dominant interior lineman in the league (yea I said it!). Can you do a featured piece on Snee? Seems like an interesting story considering Coughlin is his father-in-law...
Mosley (12:07 PM)
that's not a bad idea. I'll look into it.
Drew (Charlotte)
Do you think that Cowher will go to Dallas? I hope not since he lives here in North Carolina and John Fox is a lame duck.
Mosley (12:07 PM)
I think Cowher would want control of personnel. And he'd want to bring his scouting folks with him. I don't think Jerry wants to go that route.
Manny (CT)
In Dallas, it seems like the defenseive play calling is predictable (blitizing inside backers up the middle every time, offense knows its coming and picks it up every time). My question is, how was this defense so good at the end of last year (before Min)? Were they doing different things scheme wise?
Mosley (12:09 PM)
I think it's mainly on the players. Guys are just making mistakes on a lot of plays. Ball has been really bad at safety and Mike Jenkins has backed up. I'm not sure that has anything to do with the scheme. Also, Brooking and Spencer aren't the same guys they were last season. Lot of factors.
Andrew (NY)
Do you think we'll be seeing more of Sintim this season? Same question for Barden...
Mosley (12:09 PM)
Yes and yes.
Madison Hedgecock (East Rutherford, NJ)
With the way Bear Pascoe has been playing, and with how good the Giants have been running the ball during my injury, why is the team keeping me around? Doesn't it seem like I'm just wasting a roster spot at this point?
Mosley (12:10 PM)
Coughlin loves Hedgecock. Loves what he brings in the running game, so he won't be quick to pull the plug.
John C. (Tulsa/OK)
After his 2009 draft, why does Jerry Jones not want to make changes in his scouting department? Actually, why should I bother to ask? It's hopeless with Jerry Jones involved.
Mosley (12:11 PM)
I actually think Tom Ciscowski and his staff do a nice job. The draft you're referring to was sort of a discount draft. And Jerry's the guy making all those decisions in the draft room, so he sort of has to look in the mirror. He's let this thing get away from him.
Rich (Seattle, WA)
There are reports the Redskins are talking to/working out Jamarcus Russell. What would his role be if signed?
Mosley (12:13 PM)
Nose tackle? I hadn't heard that before jumping onto the chat, but I'll look into it afterward. I think it would be a project only type thing. Probably just seeing where he is physically.
Jeff (MN)
Would Jerry put in a claim for Moss just to block other teams from getting him? Even though Dallas's receiving core is the one bright spot on the team?
Mosley (12:13 PM)
Jerry said this morning on local radio that he's not interested in Moss.
Andy (Manhattan Beach CA)
Buy or Sell. The Redskins have the worst defense in the NFC.
Mosley (12:13 PM)
Sell, not quite that bad.
Andy (Manhattan Beach CA)
After 8 games Fred Davis has been targeted 9 times. Considering the Redskins receiver core is not stellar at all, is my man Fred going to get more PT anytime soon? or does he have to pray that Cooley gets banged up again.
Mosley (12:15 PM)
Andy, I'm cutting you off after this one. It's baffling that Davis can't get more touches. For whatever reason, his number's not being called. It could have something to do with his practice habits, although I haven't actually heard that. Maybe he's cardiovascularly challenged, like McNabb.
Chad (Dallas)
Now that America's team won't be playing at home for the Lombardi, which NFC team is going instead? Who will they play and who wins?
Mosley (12:15 PM)
I'm sticking with my original prediction: Giants vs. Ravens.
Matt (NYC)
Matt, I realize the Cowboys have much bigger holes to fill then QB but if they get the number 1 overall pick, how can they pass on Andrew Luck who has been compared to Peyton Manning and John Elway while rated by many as the best QB prospect in 10 years?? Surely, the Cowboys could turn Romo into a couple of high picks, probably for more than what Philly got for McNabb (2nd and 3rd rounders).
Mosley (12:16 PM)
Jerry's not trading Romo. I can assure you of that.
Richard (Point Pleasant, NJ)
The Eagles still have two games with the Giants, do they have a chance of catching them in the next 9 weeks?
Mosley (12:17 PM)
You bet. I like the Giants to make the playoffs, but it's not like they have the Beast on lockdown. The Eagles could get on a little roll with Vick. They can beat Indy in Philly. I truly believe that, although that secondary was pretty weak last time out.
Ernie (Newport)
Who will get fired first Wade Phillip or Childress?
Mosley (12:17 PM)
Probably Chilly.
BTMeeks88 (SAN DIEGO, CA)
What are your rankings of the teams right now?
Mosley (12:18 PM)
1. Giants2. Eagles3. Skins4. Cows
Wade Phillips (Dallas )
what are the chances that I don't have a job in a week. after all the talk from the front office this offseason, I know they can't be happy with my coaching so far. Should start packing my bags now?
Mosley (12:18 PM)
I don't think anything's happening this week, but if the Cows get embarrassed on national TV on Sunday night, look for something to possibly happen.
Danny (NJ)
Double M, why not Moss to DC? Its only EIGHT games! He would not be here for the long term AND he is playing for a contract next year, plus the Skins would be getting younger at WR by cutting Galloway and getting Moss! haha!...seriously though, the room that he would create for Little Moss would be incredible, kinda like the room he freed up for Harvin..
Mosley (12:20 PM)
I wouldn't do it, but it would certainly be exciting.
Chris (North Jersey)
Matt, how good is this Giants team?
Mosley (12:21 PM)
Really good at WR, QB and RB. Built for a LONG run in the playoffs.
Matt Foley (Van down by the river)
Rank these coaches in best fit for the Cowboys: Dungy, Cowher, Gruden, Fox, Billick
Mosley (12:22 PM)
1. Gruden2. Fox3. Dungy4. Billick5. Cowher
Juicy (Redneckville (Texas))
I don't think i've ever seen a 1-6 that got more media coverage than your beloved Cowgirls!!! What do you have to say for them now???
Mosley (12:24 PM)
I don't have a lot to say for them. Certainly not "beloved" by me -- unless you're talking about the Danny White era Cows. Honestly, the Cowboys have been flying under the radar in Dallas cause of the Rangers. Now we'll really get things ramped up.
Jae (California)
will Rodgers break the NFL record for passing yards and TDs against a Dave Campo-coached secondary this Sunday?
Mosley (12:25 PM)
Things could get ugly...But remember that GB only scored 9 points Sunday. I don't think it will get completely out of hand until late in the third quarter.
David (Round Rock)
Are Miles Austin's problems with the drops (that turn into picks) just concentration or is it related to that big payday he got?
Mosley (12:26 PM)
I think it's more of a concentration thing. I don't think the money's going to do anything to Austin.
Mal (Passaic, New Jerz)
What record will be needed for the top two NFC spots in the playoffs. I think this thing is wide open
Mosley (12:27 PM)
It's definitely wide open. I think the Giants could be the No. 1 seed with 11 wins.
Josh (Colorado Springs)
Matt,What would you say the Cowboys biggest need is right now. I kinda see alot of holes on this team.
Mosley (12:28 PM)
After you get past head coach, I think you have to completely overhaul this O-line.
Steve (Minneapolis)
Do you think the Vikes fire Chilly and keep Moss?
Mosley (12:28 PM)
Chad (Las Vegas)
What is the country more excited to see....The Cowboys flop or the end of these political commercials?
Mosley (12:29 PM)
I vote for the commercials. I thought I was watching a Saturday Night Live skit following the local news last night. It was a joke.
Dave K. (D.C.)
Do you think Shanahan is being too stubborn with his preference for hard practicing vs. in-game production? Seems like if someone practices great, they'll start, even if they're horrible in the game (Rabach).
Mosley (12:29 PM)
As long as they show plenty of cardiovascular endurance in practice, they're golden with Mike.
Derrick (Miami)
Romo, D Ware, Austin, Dez, Witten. I don't see a lot of other elite or even very good players on the Cowboys. Why is everyone so impressed with their "talent"?
Mosley (12:31 PM)
You just named some talent other teams would love to have. Dez and Miles Austin are talented at WR. Mike Jenkins appeared to be on his way to becoming an elite corner, Jay Ratliff's All-Pro, DeMarcus Ware's All-Pro and Anthony Spencer was on the verge. Bradie James is a talented player. The talent is there.
Scott (Boston, MA)
is Anthony Armstrong a legitimate #2 WR for the Redskins or is he just the product of Shanahan calling for a bunch of hail-mary type throws
Mosley (12:32 PM)
I don't see this guy as a legit No. 2, no.
Bum Phillips (Texas)
Any chance that my son saves his Job if the Boys win a bunch of their games down the stretch?
Mosley (12:33 PM)
There's no way that happens with Kitna at the helm. It's impossible. This team has quit on its head coach. But more importantly these players have quit on themselves. That's the really tough thing for fans to digest, I would think.
Rich (Raleigh, NC)
Is Marion Barber washed up or is the Dallas run blocking even worse than they seem?
Mosley (12:33 PM)
Little bit of both. Barber has no burst and the Cowboys can block it up for him.
kl (philly)
did the rangers even show up??? seriously. the yankees must be going HUH after getting killed by cliff lee and watching him lose twice TWICE to the giants!!!
Mosley (12:34 PM)
Lee made one bad pitch last night. He'd been brilliant up to that point. No way I pitch to Renteria there with Rowand on deck. I would've walked that guy all day long.
Mr. W (Dallas)
The move from E. Hobbs to D. Patterson...Upgrade or Downgrade?
Mosley (12:35 PM)
You had to try something, Mr. W. Hobbs was torched by Collins and Britt.
Vince (Hoboken,NJ)
Hi Matt, Is Kiwanuka finished as a Giant? Assuming his neck injury heals, will they re-sign him next year?
Mosley (12:35 PM)
If the neck fully heals, they'd certainly want him back. But I don't feel good about those type of injuries.
Matt (NYC)
Why isn't Shawn Andrews starting over David Diehl for the Giants? Diehl is much better suited as a guard, I think, at the point in his career. If the Giants have any offense weakness, besides turnovers, I'd have to say it's the pass rush coming from the blindside, Diehl's side. Why the delay in getting him off the field?
Mosley (12:36 PM)
I thought Diehl played well against the Cowboys after some issues early in the game. I wouldn't make that move right now. But Andrews will help this team down the road -- on a full-time basis.
Bill (DC)
Is the NFC East a three-team division?
Mosley (12:36 PM)
right now it is.
Patrick (NYC)
Go Stars? Go Mavericks?
Mosley (12:38 PM)
Had a good visit with Dirk on the radio last week. I'll be watching every game. If Chandler stays healthy, he's a difference-maker. I was impressed with the Stars' start.
Brian (NJ)
prediction for dallas @ GB?
Mosley (12:38 PM)
Green Bay 28, Cowboys 10...But I may change my mind before kickoff.
Patrick (NYC)
I agree with Derrick from Miami wholeheartedly. Outside of Ratliff, they do not have a single talented player on either side of the line or the secondary (and don't tell me Doug Free is talented. That is like saying Adam Koets is talented).
Mosley (12:39 PM)
Doug Free is definitely talented. Spears is not a bad player and Bowen and Hatcher are talented. On the O-line, I can't help you too much.
Steve (Dallas)
Is Felix Jones suffering more from having another quality RB on the team or is is that O-line. What is he to do?
Mosley (12:39 PM)
He's suffering from not being able to create his own yardage. We overrated him.
Mike (Philly)
Matt -Do you think it's possible we are all only looking at the McNabb thing from one side? I mean, has anyone cared to look at his stats in the last 2 minutes before halftime and at the end of the game this season? They're terrible (3rd worst QB rating in the league). Not to mention his record in the last 17 games played in a tie game or losing in the last 2 minutes he is 3-13-1? Maybe it IS Donovan and it took Shanny 8 games to realize something that it took the Eagles 11 years to figure out?
Mosley (12:40 PM)
Doesn't matter. You don't call this guy your franchise QB and then undermine him at the first opportunity.
Marc (Malden, MA)
Do you think Shanahan regrets trading for McNabb? If they aren't going to extend him, wouldn't they have been better off staying with Campbell and keeping the 2 round pick or trading that pick for Logan Mankins?
Mosley (12:41 PM)
He'd never admit that he regrets it. Let's see how this thing plays out. McNabb can play a lot better than what he's showing.
Steve (VA)
Matt, I can't help from noticing that you are having a field day with Shanahan's decision/mistake to pull McNabb. Why not just admit that you hate the Skins? It's already pretty obvious.
Mosley (12:42 PM)
In Dallas, I'm accused of loving the Skins. There's certainly no "hatred" involved. I just did a big feature on your man Orakpo this past Thursday. But I think Shanny made a bone-headed call, and I don't mind pointing that out. And the "cardio endurance' is a laugh a minute.
Jae (California)
will DeSean start this week? what's the skinny on his injury?
Mosley (12:43 PM)
These concussions are tricky. He wants to play, but my gut tells me he could miss one more game.
Wes (The Colony)
Matt, can you expand on your story about Jerry hiring seat fillers for Cowboys Stadium?
Mosley (12:44 PM)
That was a joke on the radio that both Randy and Ian missed by doing their usual mouth-breathing!!
Darrick Knight (durham,nc)
Matt, who will do a better job against Freeney. Peters or Dunlap?
Mosley (12:44 PM)
Both of them would be in trouble. I'd probably take my chances with the vet.
Dan (Washington, DC)
I would say Shannahan has done the 2nd best job in the division, if not the best. There is no way the talent of the Redskins equates to 4-4...
Mosley (12:45 PM)
I was with you until there was 1:50 left in Sunday's game.
JaY (Philly)
Does McNabb lose any respect in the locker room after getting benched? Who do players start to question more? Shanny or DMac?
Mosley (12:45 PM)
Right now, I think they're questioning Mike more than Don.
When will Trent Dilfer admit that we are good and better than the jets?
Mosley (12:46 PM)
I think that day's coming.
Todd (charleston, sc)
Matt...I hope you have the cardiovascular endurance to finish this CHAT!!!
Mosley (12:47 PM)
I'm taking myself out at 12:53 ET. I'm completely winded and my right middle finger is worn out from hitting the "i" key.
MJ (Boston)
you guys jumped the gun on mike jenkins, he made a few picks in a some key games, but he still was getting thrown on last year. There is no comparison between him and Newman, the first 5 games, Jenkins wasn't nearly as good
Mosley (12:48 PM)
Guilty as charged. I thought the guy was ready to become an elite player. Now he's just one of this team's many problems.
Zach (Philly)
Speaking of Eagles O-Line, how long can Reid keep patching it together with Mike McGlynn's and King Dunlap's?
Mosley (12:50 PM)
That's what you have to do for now. They won't have to stay with their blocks quite as long with Vick racing around.
Jamal (DC)
Who is the best running back in the Beast?
Mosley (12:50 PM)
That's easy, Ahmad Bradshaw.
Luigi (New York)
Why is Dallas considered the most talented team in the league?They have an undrafted QB and #1 receiver. Besides Ware where is all this talent that seperates them from lets say the Raiders?
Mosley (12:51 PM)
It doesn't matter that romo was undrafted. It matters that he's put up some big-time numbers in the NFL. I think Ware, Spencer, Jenkins, Ratliff, James and Spears are all pretty talented. And on O, they have Dez, Miles Austin, Felix Jones...
Paul (Greenville, NC) [via mobile]
I hate Jerry Jones simply (and justifiably) because he owns and operates the cowboys. However, I was very impressed with the way he publicly assumed responsibility for fielding a bunz team. Does he deserve at least SOME credit for his apology? Also, can we expect Wade to issue a similar apology or is he going to continue to pretend that things aren't as bad as they seem?
Mosley (12:52 PM)
I don't really credit owners for stating the obvious. Jerry's the one who's created this mess, so now he has to clean it up.
Jon (NYC )
How many defensive pro bowlers will the Giants have?
Mosley (12:53 PM)
Rolle, Terrell Thomas, Tuck, Osi...and Cofield should definitely be in there.
Scott (Albany NY)
are there any college coaches you could see Jerry making a run at?
Mosley (12:54 PM)
Jim Harbaugh's about the only name I can think of that Jerry might have some interest in.
Marc (Malden, MA)
The Redskins interior OL continues to look like swiss cheese. When will they fix that?
Mosley (12:54 PM)
Have to start doing that this offseason.
dez (dallas)
will i be in the starting line-up before the year is over?
Mosley (12:54 PM)
There's a decent chance, yes.
ryan (california)
What do you think of the Oakland Raiders giving Randy Moss a second shot? Do you think it would be a good decision with his attitude and his i dont care mentality? It seems there is only one team that Moss wants to play for and thats the Patriots.
Mosley (12:55 PM)
I wouldn't get anywhere near this guy right now...but someone will.
Tom Coughlin (NY)
If they were calling for me to get fired at 1-2, what is Wade still doing around?
Mosley (12:55 PM)
Jerry doesn't make changes during the season, and he's trying to hold to that.
Darryl (Oakland, CA)
Wow, do you really believe, even with Eli at QB, that the G Men are a better team than the Packers? Rodgers is light years ahead of Eli at QB...right?
Mosley (12:56 PM)
Yes, I think the Giants are a better team than the Pack right now. Better O-line, better D-line. Better secondary.
Paul (NJ)
No Snee to the Pro bowl?
Mosley (12:57 PM)
I was just doing Giants' defensive players to Pro Bowl.
Alex (CT)
How 'bout the other JJ? Where's Jimmy "The Hair" Johnson these days? He's gotta be laughing about the situation in big D!
Mosley (12:57 PM)
I don't think Jimmy's laughing at Jerry's predicament. He likes the man. They're pretty good pals now. I'd bring in Jimmy as a consultant for the rest of the season, but I don't think he'd do it.
Adrian (San Francisco)
What percentage of blame would you assign in Dallas to Jerry, Wade and the players?
Mosley (12:58 PM)
I always lean toward blaming the players...
Shabari (MD)
Do you agree with Darryl that Rodgers is light years ahead of Eli?I think he's delusional.
Mosley (12:59 PM)
Only one of those guys has a ring...OK, that's all I have for today. You guys were tremendous.
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Madonna's older brother is homeless, living under a bridge in remote northern Michigan.
Anthony Ciccone, 55, told the Michigan Messenger newspaper that he lost his job more than a year ago at his father Silvio's winery near Traverse City, a resort community of 14,000 on upper Lake Michigan, about 215 kilometers south of Sault Ste. Marie, Ont.
Ciccone says he has been living on the street ever since.
"My family turned their back on me, basically, when I was having a hard time," Ciccone told the Messenger. "You think I haven't answered this kind of question a bazillion times why my sister is a multibazillionaire, and I'm homeless on the street? Never say never. This could happen to anybody."
Ciccone said he eats evening meals at Traverse City churches, and his only source of income is scrounging bottles and cans to return for their deposit value, and odd jobs.
Madonna Ciccone, 53, was born and raised in southern Michigan, the third of six children to an Italian immigrant father and a mother of French-Canadian descent. Madonna left the Detroit area for New York City in 1977, at age 19, to seek fame and fortune. By 1983 she had found it. Forbes magazine this year estimated Madonna's earnings from 2007 to 2010 alone to be $280 million.
Wow. A real "man on the street."
The good news is that bridges are normally strong, solid structures. At least he isn't living in a hut in Africa like Barry Soetoro's brother.
Like all stories, this one probably has two sides. I would like to hear the other before I make any decisions.
In many cases people living in the streets have substance abuse problems. The family has bent over backwards to help them and finally has given up because the substance abuser won't or can't help themselves.
(With other people's money)
Isn't that the brother that used to be her producer...or something like that?
What's with these liberals - doesn't Barry have a brother living in a hut? Shame on Madonna in more ways than one. Yet, for show, didn't she adopt some foreign kid to give him a better life?
How long did you work there? Didn't you save any money? Didn't you have any investments you could sell like a house?
What an idiot.
Interesting that he chose such an upscale town to be homeless in. Kinda like Beverly Hills on ice.
Not far from Fat Mikey's either.
Ok - good question - one I hadn't thought about. I was thinking the winery may have closed. I didn't think of the obvious.
Whats with these liberals
simple. They LOVE to spent OUR money on other people. Their own money? not so much.
Regardless of the circumstances, blood is blood. Given her huge wealth—a top 1 percenter—she should provide at least a roof over her brother's head. The costs wouldn't approach what amounts to a penny as a percentage of her net worth.
Photo of Madonna with her 7 brothers and sisters in the 1980's
"...why my sister is a multibazillionaire, and I'm homeless on the street?..."
Does this mean he feels entitled to his sister's money?
"he lost his job more than a year ago at his father Silvio's winery"
Sounds like he was ingesting more of daddy's wine than he was selling
You would think that Madonna could hire him to sweep up the leaves on one of her Florida estates. At least sleeping outside in Florida would be an improvement over Michigan in the winter.
Yeah, when dad fires you from the family business and your mufti-millionaire sister lets you sleep under a bridge then there has to be a good reason for it.
It would be interesting if the other side goes public on why they turned their backs on him. My guess is he snorted the first hundred offers of help they gave him and was back again with his hand out the next week.
At least that's how my BIL use to be.
Oh! So he is one of the trolls living under the Mackinaw bridge (see essay #4)
Whats with these liberals - doesnt Barry have a brother living in a hut?""""
Barry the Imposter also has an aunt & an uncle living in the USA- after being 'deported', collecting AMERICAN TAXPAYER funds to live on.
Whatever her brother problems are..... It's a shame his sister who can easily support in a modest way allows him to live on the streets
No family of mine will ever sleep under a bridge if I can help them....Unless they become a danger to themselves or me
Yea...it's easy to ignore some other person who you have nothing to do with..... But family are different
I hear what your saying, but family is family. You would think with her megabucks she could at least keep him in some fancy sanitarium somewhere. The relative cost to her probably wouldn't even be a rounding error.
That would still make him an idiot.
It's more likely he drank his paycheck. Or smoked it. Or snorted it. Or put it on the wrong horse. Or wrong color. Or wrong number.
Like the guy who told the reporter who had asked him what he's going to do with his lottery winnings, "I'm going to spend half of it on wine, women and song. The rest I'm going to spend recklessly."
Why? So maybe he can shoot up/get drunk/whatever in comfort? Enabling is taking the easy way out.
Think about what he must have done to get himself fired from his father's business. Do you think Papa Ciccone would have kicked him to the curb, knowing he'd be in for some bad press, if he didn't feel he was doing what was best for his son? Time for the 55-year old Tony to get his life in order--but he has to want to do that.
Tough love?
Ciccone said he eats evening meals at Traverse City churches,
...but never fear; he's found new enablers.
he should be thankful he's not an Obama, or he'd be "hutless"
So you think living under a bridge vs. in a small heated apt will make him come to his senses? So it's his surroundings that will put the spark in him? Don't think so. If so, why not have rehab facilities under a bridge if it's a tried and true remedy.
Giving one meal a day is now considered an enabler? WOW!
Unfortunately, sometimes supporting your family in bad times is the worst thing you can do. There is a reason he is where he is and not supported by his family. It's never an easy thing to do but sometimes very necessary.
Yep. I didn't get myself straightened out and quit drinking till I had to.
If he is a problem child, she could reach an agreement to care for him if he followed her rules. He lives in a house with "handlers", people whose job it is to keep him out of trouble. And he has to sign off on their handling him, to the point of involuntary confinement if he gives them crap.
No drugs, no alcohol, no tobacco, no parties. He eats healthy food, wears clean clothes and is checked out by a doctor regularly. He does not leave the house unless he has two guards with him. He has a budget controlled by his handlers, and if he wants stuff, he can usually mail order it.
He does not talk to the media of any kind. Special requests go through the "boss lady".
The chances are that he was, essentially, having his room and board covered at family expense with no impact whatsoever on his "issue"--and I guarantee, he has an issue of some kind, and it can't be a small one. At what point in a person's life do you believe one has to be responsible for one's actions and choices? Seriously, I don't see how your argument is any different than the "gimme" attitude of the flea baggers. Something for nothing.
Is that one of the bridges over the Boardman River?
If I had to guess what Tony's problem is, I'd say gambling, not drugs. I could well imagine his skimming profits and racking up huge losses and debts, even to the point of jeopardizing the winery. You can't swing a cat up there without hitting a casino wall. A junkie is a junkie, though--you have to want to quit.
No doubt that she's a first-class tramp and sanctimonious to boot, but when did she ever ask that her family--or anyone else--be responsible for her choices? Her fans might be nuts--they're obviously lacking taste--but they support her of their own free will. I've never known her to ask any quarter, you have to allow that.
Money is fungible; every cent (or good-equivilent) given "for food" is one more that can be spent on one's vice.
That is why there is no such thing as "humanitarian aide".
"Like all stories, this one probably has two sides."
Yes, I'm sure that's true and cripplecreek makes an excellent point surmising you must be pretty messed up to get fired by your own father.
However, his sister really is mega-rich and I'd think she could set him up in some small way so at least he wasn't living on the street and eating in a soup kitchen.
Anyway, I'd like to think I'd do that for my brother, no matter how messed up he was.
"Isnt that the brother that used to be her producer...or something like that?"
No, I'm pretty sure that brother was Christopher, and I think he was younger.
Could I get a link to that?
>No family of mine will ever sleep under a bridge if I can help them....Unless they become a danger to themselves or me<
Me neither. It's FAMILY. I even have a full-blown LIB brother whom I cannot stand, cannot talk to, cannot relate to....but I will never allow him to be homeless.
The Immaterial Boy.
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|Publication number
|Publication type
|Publication date
|Mar 16, 1954
|Filing date
|Feb 1, 1949
|Priority date
|Feb 1, 1949
|Publication number
|Carl Jacobsen, Neal George H
|Original Assignee
|Carl Jacobsen, Neal George H
|Export Citation
|BiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan
|Patent Citations (12), Referenced by (7), Classifications (12)
|External Links: USPTO, USPTO Assignment, Espacenet
March 16, 1954 Q JACOBSEN ETAL 2,671,966
GUN SIGHT Filed Feb. 1, 1949 I5 Sheets-Sheet l March 16,1954 c. JACOBSEN ETAL v 2,671,966-
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m J M 2 j w 9 5 /TL 3 i M J Patented Mar. 16, 1954 OFFICE GUN SIGHT Carl Jacobsen and George H. Neal, Portland, Oreg.
Application February 1, 1949, Serial No. 73,908
This invention relates to a gun sight, whether of the receiver or tang type, and its primary object is the provision of new and improved means for effecting and obtaining micrometer adjustment of the peep sight in either a vertical or a horizontal direction.
Another important object of the invention resides in the provision of a gun sight wherein there are a plurality of interfitting parts which may be easily and quickly assembled and made at a relatively low cost.
Another object of the invention is to provide a gun sight of the peep sight type which is provided with new and improved means for mounting the device on the tang or receiver of a gun, for effecting minute adjustment of the peep sight in various directions and properly calibrating the various elements with respect to the gun upon which it is mounted.
A further object is the provision of new and improved means for overcoming lost motion or backlash in certain of the operable parts which cause the vertical and horizontal adjustment of the peep sight.
A further object is the provision of a strong, durable gun sight composed of rigid parts which may be economically manufactured and which attains the highest desideratum with respect to range and elevation adjustment, wind adjustment, and other adjustments necessary and ordinarily required.
A still further object of the invention resides in the provision of a plurality of interfitting parts for effecting proper and minute adjustment of the peep sight and for positively calibrating the parts by means of visible calibration or Vernier devices so that the proper adjustment may be made and read.
A still further object of the invention resides in the arrangement, construction and location of the various parts so as to provide a durable, highly eflicient gun sight which is compact and which may be easily and readily applied to the gun either as a receiver sight or tang sight.
Numerous other objects and advantages will be apparent throughout the progress of the specification which follows:
. The accompanying drawings illustrate a certain selected embodiment of the invention, and the views therein are as follows:
Fig. 1 is a perspective view of the gun sight, the same being shown mounted on the receiver of a rifle;
' Fig. 2 is a detail side elevational view of the improved gun sight;
Fig. 3 is a detai1 plan view thereof;
Fig. 4 is a transverse vertical section on line 4-4 of Fig. 2, the peep sight being in its extreme left hand position;
Fig. 4A is an enlarged detail longitudinal sectional view of the Windage knob shown in Fig. 4;
Fig. 5 is a detail horizontal sectional view on line 5-5 of Fig. 2;
Fig. 6 is a detail transverse vertical sectional view on line 6-6 of Fig. 2;
Fig. 7 is an exploded perspective view showing the assembly of the various parts comprising the peep sight;
Fig. 8 is a perspective view showing one form of base mounting and support block which may be used in connection with the gun sight for maintaining the same on the gun receiver;
Fig. 9 is a detail horizontal sectional view on line 9--9 of Fig. 2;
Fig. 10 is a perspective view showing the assembly of the various parts of the gun sight which carry or support the peep sight element;
Fig. 11 is a detail transverse sectional view on line |I--II of Fig. 4;
Fig. 12 is an end view showing a. modified form of mounting base and supporting block used in connection with the device, parts of said base and block being shown in section for the sake of clearness; and
Fig. 13 is a side elevational view of the base and block shown in Fig. 12, the vernier dial and the cover plate being omitted.
The particular embodiment of the invention illustrated in Figs. 1 to 11, inclusive, for the purpose of describing the invention comprises a mounting base or attaching support I which is adapted to be fastened to a gun receiver 2 to provide an attachment on the gun to which the sight may be detachably secured, Fig. 1. y The base or support I is in the form of a block which may be fastened rigidly to the gun receiver by a pair of machine screws (not shown). The screws pass through a pair of transverse bores 3 in the mounting base and have threaded engagement with properly positioned tapped holes in the wall of the gun receiver, Figs. 4 and 6. The mounting base I is provided with a vertically disposed dovetailed tongue or boss 4 which slides into a corresponding vertical dovetailed groove 5 formed in a supporting block 6, Figs. 3 and 8. The supporting block 6 carries the operable mechanism or parts of the gun sight proper and is movably mounted on the mounting base I.
It is desirable that the supporting block 6 be mounted detachably on the mounting base I so that the device may be readily removed from attachment to the gun. It is also desirable that means be provided for locking the supporting block to the mounting base so that the gun sight is attached rigidly to the gun when used in connection therewith. Means for locking and unlocking the supporting block to the base mounting to accomplish these ends comprises a screw 1 which is threaded in a tapped bore 8 in the block 6, Fig. 5. The inner end of the screw 1 is tapered as indicated at 9; and the outer end of the screw is provided with a knurled knob It! so that the screw may be turned by the user. A spherical socket or chamber II, which is formed in the block 6 between the inner end of the bore 8 and the dovetailed groove 5, loosely receives a ball |2. The arrangement is such that when the screw 1 is advanced into the bore 8, the tapered end 9 of the screw cams against the ball H and forces it against the dovetailed boss 4 on the mounting base An indentation or groove l3, adapted to receive the ball |2, may be formed in the dovetailed boss 4 so that the supporting block may be locked rigidly with respect to the mounting base and properly aligned therewith.
Should it be desired to remove the gun sight from its attachment to the gun, the screw I may be retracted from the bore 8 to release the ball |2 from mating engagement with the indentation. l3. The supporting block 6 may then be detached from the mounting block I by pulling it upwardly and out of engagement with the dovetailed boss 4 on the mounting block. The supporting block 6 is provided with vertical slots l4 to allow the heads of the mounting screws which secure the base to the gun receiver to clear the base block when the base block is removed from the supporting block in the aforedescribed manner. The block 6 may be provided with a pair of bores l5 so that access may be had to the screws which fasten the mounting base I to the gun receiver 2, Figs. 6 and 8.
The peep sight I6 is adapted to be adjusted vertically with respect to the supporting block 6 by means of an L-shaped adjustment member Fig. 10, having a vertical leg l8 and a horizontal leg |9. The vertical leg I8 is arranged in a straight walled slot 29 formed in the block 6, Fig. 8, and has vertical slidable movement therein, whereby vertical movement of the leg |8 will cause comparable vertical movement of the horizontal leg l9. The horizontal leg I9 is integral with the vertical leg I1, and has a slot 2| formed therein, Fig. 11, to receive slidably a sight bar 22 which is detachably secured to a part of the body of the peep sight l6.
Means for raising or lowering the peep sight [6 is accomplished by raising or lowering the L-shaped member H. The means for adjusting the member I! with respect to the base 6 in order to make connection for target elevation and range comprises a vertical turnable rod 23 which passes loosely through a vertical bore 24, in the horizontal leg l9 of the L-shaped member l1, Fig. 4. The turnable rod 23 has threaded engagement at its lower end in a corresponding threaded bore 25 in the supporting block 6. The rod 23 is turned by means of a knurled knob 26 which is mounted on the upper end of the rod. An integral enlarged part or collar 21, disposed intermediate the ends of the rod 23, supports the leg IQ of the member H. The L-shaped member maybe raised or lowered with respect to the block 6 by rotating the knurled knob 26 in the proper direction.
The vertical leg |8 may be provided with a. calibrated means 28 forming a scale 29, Fig. 10, so that the proper setting for the elevation adjustment of the peep sight may be made and read. The indicia 28 on the scale 29 may be viewed through a window or opening 30 in a front cover plate 3| which is fastened to the supporting block 6 by machine screws 32, Figs. 1 and 2. A pointer or indicator 33, which may be made integral with the cover plate 3|, is provided to indicate the relative position of the peep sight l6 and the L-shaped member I! with respect to the supporting block 6. By turning the elevation knurled knob 26 to raise or lower the L-shaped member I1 with respect to the block 6, the indicia 28 on the scale 29 are brought in alignment successively with the indicator or pointer 33 until the proper elevation adjustment may be made or read.
Extremely accurate adjustment of the elevation setting of the peep sight I6 is possible by means of the provision of a vernier dial 34 which is rotatively driven When the L-shaped member I1 is moved vertically by means of the elevation knob 26. The vernier dial 34 is mounted rigidly at its center on a shaft 35 which is journalled at its outer end in an integral bridge part 36 of the cover plate 3| and at its inner end to a floating bearing block 31. The vertical leg l8 of the L-shaped member I! has, on one side thereof, a toothed rack portion 38 which engages a pinion 39 fixedly mounted on the shaft 35. The pinion 39 is maintained in proper engagement with the rack teeth 38 by means of a coil spring 40 which is arranged in a bore 4| in the supporting block 6. The spring 49 is interposed between the bearing block 31 and a set screw 42 in the bore 4| to keep the pinion 39 and the teeth 38 in engagement. Any vertical movement of the L-shaped member H with respect to the supporting block 6 causes the pinion 39 to rotate and drive the shaft 35 so that the vernier dial 34 is similarly rotated.
The vernier dial 34 may be provided with a plurality of circumferentially arranged indicia 43, Fig. 2, these indicia being adapted to be brought into alignment with an index 44 on the cover plate 3|. The indicia 43 may, if desired, be spaced apart to indicate minutes of an angular degree of gun elevation. For example, in the embodiment illustrated herein, thirty indicia 43 are arranged circumferentially on the vernier dial 34. The spacing between any two adjacent indicia 43 corresponding to a gun elevation (above the normal) of one angular minute. The spacing between any two adjacent indicia 28 of the scale 29 in the vertical leg l8 corresponds to a gun elevation differential of ten angular minutes. The vernier dial 34 is actuated by the rack 38 in a manner such that if the pointer 33 is disposed between the indicia 28 from 1 to 30, inclusive, the particular index 43 that is in alignment with the index 44,
will give a direct reading of the angular elevation of the gun above the zero point. If the pointer 33 is disposed between the indicia 28 from 30 to 60, the numerical value of the particular index 43 that is aligned with the index 44 is added arithmetically to 30" to obtain the reading of the angular elevation of the gun above the zero point. The result is such that any rotative movement of the rod 23 to give ver tical movement to the L-shaped member H with respect to the block 6, causes the vernier dial 34 to rotate so that precise and accurate adjustments of the elevation setting are possible.
The peep sight I6 is adapted to be shifted in a horizontal direction to compensate for the effects of wind on the trajectory of bullets fired from the gun as well as perhaps for barrel misalignment, such as slight curvature in the gun bore. Also, minor misjudgments in sighting the rifle by the marksman may be compensated for by means provided in the sight. The sight bar 22 is made adjustable in the slot 2| of the horizontal leg l9 by the provision of a windage screw 45 having threaded engagement with a tapped insert 46 which is force-fitted into a bore 41 extending longitudinally in the sight bar 22, Fig. 4. The tapped insert 46 insures that the threads having engagement with the screw 45 will be uniform throughout so that lost motion or backlash is eliminated or at least reduced to a minimum. The screw 45 passes horizontally through the upper end of the L-shaped member I! and is adapted to be rotated by means of a knurled windage knob 48 at its outer end which is rigidly secured thereto by means of a set screw 49. Rotation of the windage knob 48 causes the sight bar 22 to be moved horizontally with respect to the horizontal leg IQ of the member I! so that the peep sight l6 may be moved to any desired predetermined position in a horizontal plane.
Additional means are provided for preventing lost motion or backlash when the windage knob 48 is rotated reversely in advancing or retracting the sight bar 22. This additional means may comprise a plurality of longitudinally extending pins 56 arranged within the windage knob 48. Each pin 5|] has one of its ends abutting against the inner face of a set screw 5|, which is threaded in the windage knob 48, Fig. 4A. The other end of each pin 56 abuts against one face of a washer 52, the other face of the washer being arranged against a downturned integral flange 53 on a bifurcated plate 54. A collar 55, which is integral with the screw 45, is positioned against the left-hand end of the slot 2| (Figs. 4 and 4A) so that the screw 45 is free to rotate but is prevented from moving axially. Backlash effects are eliminated by tightening the set screw 5| against the pins 50 so that the pins will cause the washer 52 to be pressed tightly against the flange 53. This arrangement insures a rigid connection between the windage knob 48 and the screw 45 and prevents axial movement of the screw 45 so that there will be no play or backlash in the windage adjustment.
The sight bar 22 is maintained and guided in the slot 2| by means of a bifurcated plate 54 which is fastened to the top of the vertical leg H! by screws 56. Furcations 5! on the inner edges of the bifurcated plate 54 extend inwardly a short distance from the edges of the slot 2| so that the sight bar 22 will be guided properly in the slot 2 I.
A scale 58 having calibrations or indicia is provided on the sight bar 22 so that the gun sight may be properly "zeroed-in to overcome shooting above or below, or on either side. In instances where the gun may shoot too much to the left a calibrated setting is made. The sight is then adjusted to a certain degree to shoot more to the right. If the next shot is too far to the right the setting is reversed within the proper limits until the correct line of fire is obtained. The vertical adjustments are made by rotating the screw 23 after the correct horizontal adjustments have been made. After "zeroing-in additional adjustments may be made for wind velocity. The scales 29 and 58, therefore, give the shooter an indication of the amount of adjustment to be made.
An indicator 59 cooperates with the scale 58, and this indicator comprises a fiat strip 60 having an integral pointer 6| which extends laterally over the sight bar 22. The strip 60 is slidably mounted on top of one of the furcations 51 of the plate 54. The strip 60 is secured to the plate 54 by means of a machine screw 62 arranged in a slot 63 in the strip 60 so that the indicator or pointer 6| may be moved to a definite position over the scale 58 on the sight bar 22 when the gun is zeroed-in or when the sight is being adjusted initially. The indicator is free to be moved when the screw 62 is loosened, and then locked in adjusted position when the screw 62 is tightened.
The peep sight l6 comprises a rear disk-like member 64 having a centrally disposed opening 65 therein. An integral annular ring 66 is formed at the forward part of the disk 64 to form an internal chamber 61 in which certain operable parts are housed to vary the size of the peep opening through the peep sight. The front of the compartment 61 is closed by a circular disk or plate 68 having a centrally disposed opening 69 in alignment with the opening 65. The disk or plate 68 has a vertically disposed integral dovetail boss or tongue 10 formed on its rear face which dovetails with a vertical dovetail groove 7| formed near or at the end of the sight bar 22, Fig. 3. The boss or tongue 10 is slidably mounted in a vertical dovetailed groove or slot II, and is locked in place by a set screw 12. The peep sight I6 is freely adjustably movable in the dovetailed groove 1| when the screw 12 is loosened, and locked in adjusted position when the screw 12 is tightened.
The peep opening through the peep sight I6 (the openings 65 and 69) may be enlarged or decreased in size by means of a shutter element 13, Fig. 7, which is arranged in the chamber or compartment 61 and cooperates with a pronged member or spider 14 also positioned inside of the chamber. The shutter element comprises a ring having a central aperture 16. A plurality of overlapping shutter slides or blades 11 are arranged peripherally about the aperture 16, being pivotally mounted on one face of the ring 15 by pivot members 18 which may be struck out from the slides or blades and engaging holes in the ring 15, Fig. 7. The blades 11 have outwardly projecting lugs 19 formed on their free ends to be received in spaces between the arms 8| of the spider 14. The spider 14 is locked from rotative movement by means of a lug or protuberance 82 formed on the ring 66. The ring 13 is adapted to have limited rotative movement by means of a pinion 83 which is fixed to a shaft 84 passing through the front plate or disk 68. The pinion meshes with teeth formed on the periphery of the ring 75; thus, when the shaft 84 is given rotary movement the lug 19 will engage the arms 8| of the spider l4 and press the slides or blades 11 inwardly or out wardly to decrease or increase, respectively, the size of the opening, depending in which directron the shaft is rotated. The shaft 84 extends through the disk 68 and carries a knurled knob 85 at its outer end to permit the shaft 84 to be operated manually exteriorly of the element to cause operation of the structure arranged 7 within the chamber 61. The opening through the peep sight it is enlarged or decreased as desired or required because the slides or blades 11 are operated to adjust the sight opening through the sight. The spider 14 has a central aperture 86 which aligns with the openings 65,69 and 16 in the disk 64, disk 68 and element 13 respectively. The slope, size and construction of the parts and the manner in which the blades 11 are constructed and the manner in which the parts fit, particularly the cooperation of the lugs with the spider arms is such that the sight opening through the sight It may be operated from closed to a full opening.
Modified construction The gun sight shown in Figs. 12 and 13 is a modified form of the gun sight heretofore described. The only difierence between the modified gun sight and the gun sight shown in Figs. 1 to 11, inclusive, is the construction of the mounting base and of the supporting block. The modified construction of the combination of the mounting base and supporting block hereinafter described may be adapted for use with any type of gun but is particularly suited for use with certain types of guns, such as Winchester 30-06 rifles, and the like.
The modified form of gun sight comprises a mounting base or attaching support 8! which may be fastened to a gun receiver by a pair of machine screws (not shown). The screws pass through a pair of transverse bores 88 in the base 81 and have threaded engagement with a pair of tapped holes properly positioned in the wall of the gun receiver. The mounting base 81 is relatively elongated in shape and is provided with a concave surface 89 which rests against the outer surface of the gun receiver. The base 81 is positioned with a horizontally disposed longitudinally extending dovetailed boss or tongue 99 which is adapted to slide into a corresponding horizontally disposed dovetailed groove 9| formed in an arm or extension 92 which extends forwardly from its integral connection with the side of a supporting block 93. The supporting block 93 carries the same various operable sight adjustment parts carried by. the supporting block 6, the only difference in the said blocks residing in the means and manner by which the blocks 6 and 93 are attached to their mounting bases l and 81, respectively. The arm or extension 92 may have a set screw 94 threaded therein for locking and unlocking the gun sight proper to the mounting base 81. The screw 94 has at its outer end a knurled knob 95 which may be rotated to tighten or loosen the screw from locking engagement with the mounting base 87. The supporting block 93, and therefore the gun sight proper, may be removed from its mounted position on the mounting base 81 by loosening the screw 94 and then moving the block 93 rearwardly.
Operation The gun sight is applied to a gun by mounting either the base I or 81 to a part of the gun such as the gun stock. The base is secured in position by screwing the same onto a part of the gun such as the gun receiver. The supporting block 6 or 93 is adapted to cooperate with its respective base I or 87. Vertical adjustment of the peep sight i6 is effected by rotation of the knurled knob 29to effe ct rotation of the threaded stem 23. 'The rotation of the knurled knob 26 causes rotation of the Vernier dial 34 which has cooperation with the scale 29 on the vertical leg I! whereby the setting may be readily ascertained and read. Therefore, when vertical adjustment ior elevation or range is required, the knurled knob 26 is rotated in the proper direction. Horizontal or side-to-side adjustment of the peep sight I6 is accomplished by rotating the knurled windage knob 48. This windage knob 48 may be provided with graduations or calibrations or other indicia if desired. The opening through the peep sight l6 may be adjusted by rotating 2. knurled knob extending outwardly from the disk 68 so that a larger or smaller peep sight opening may be had as desired. The entire device is adapted to be shift-ably or adjustably mounted on its supporting base and then looked in such adjusted position.
The gun sight of the invention is rigid, efficient and durable, and omits the usual click arrangement inherent in conventional gun sights. Ordinary gun sights are calibrated so that one minute of angle is equal to one inch of adjustment per 1000 yards. The present invention does not have any click adjustments which are variable throughout variable degrees, but is provided with an accurate construction so that the proper adjustments may be made even within minutes of a degree. The gun sight of the present invention is particularly adapted for marksman shooting, and when the sight of the invention is properly zeroed-in expert shooting may be obtained. The gun sight of the invention is particularly advantageous in providing accurate adjustment because it compensates to a great extent for so-called drift shots. While drift shots are ordinarily inexplainable, they do occur with regular sequence, say one shot out of ten or twenty may be a drift shot. This may be due to the manner in which the cartridge is loaded. However, the present invention causes the gun barrel and line of sight to be properly and correctly adjusted so that even the so-called drift shot will be within the proper range, whereby a marksman employing the present gun sight is assured of a shooting score of a much higher average than would occur without the use of the present sight.
The gun sight of the present invention is provided with graduated indicia or calibrations so that the marksman will know the amount of adjustment necessary for the proper'alignment or zeroing-in within fractions of one minute of an angle. When the gun sight is properly zeroed-in with respect to the line of fire or the rifle bore, the marksman is assured of accurate range and elevation and side direction. Compensation is provided for windage whereby a minor adjustment may be made to compensate for cross-wind velocity. There is no backlash in the adjustments and therefore when an adjustment is made it is positive and direct and can be made correct to a split hair.
The device may be readily and economically manufactured and may be easily and readily applied to existing rifles. The sight proper is universal in that it may be adapted to a mounting applied to the receiver or it may be used as a tang sight.
Changes may be made in the form, construction and arrangement of the parts without departing from the spirit of the invention or sacriiicing any of its advantages, and the right is hereby reserved to make any and all such changes as fall clearly within the scope of the following claims.
The invention is hereby claimed as follows:
1. A gun sight comprising a mounting member adapted for attachment on a gun, a supporting member and fastening means for securing the supporting member on the mounting member, a carrying frame, having a support leg vertically movable in said support member and a mounting leg on said support leg and extending therefrom horizontally above said gun, means for raising and lowering said carrying member with respect to the supporting member, said mounting leg having a longitudinally extending groove therein, a sight bar supported on said mounting leg in said groove, a peep sight carried by the sight bar, outwardly of the end of said mounting leg remote from said support leg, means for moving the sight bar and peep sight thereon horizontally on said mounting leg, a graduated scale on and extending longitudinally of said sight bar, an index member on and adjustable longitudinally of said mounting leg in position overlying said scale, and means to secure said index member in adjustable position on said mounting leg.
2. A gun sight comprising a mounting member adapted for attachment on a gun, a supporting member and fastening means for securing the supporting member on the mounting member, a carrying frame having a support leg vertically movable in said support member and a mounting leg on said support leg and extending in a direction normal to said support leg above said gun, a peep sight mounting bar carried by and movable longitudinally of the mounting leg, an adjusting stem turnably mounted in a bore in said mounting leg adjacent its junction with the support leg and making threaded engagement in a socket in said support member for adjusting the carrying member vertically on the support member, and another adjusting stem turnably mounted in a bore in the end of said mounting leg at its junction with the support leg, said stem having threaded engagement in a threaded socket formed in the end of said mounting bar.
3. A gun sight as set forth in claim 2, wherein said adjusting stems are provided with knobs to facilitate the manual turning thereof, one of said knobs having adjustable means thereon for pressing in one direction on the carrying frame to eliminate axial lost motion of the stem in its bore, said stem having a shoulder thereon adapt- 10 ed to press upon the carrying frame in the opposite direction.
4. A gun sight as set forth in claim 2, including a plate secured on said carrying frame and providing a lug overlying the end of the mounting leg at its junction with the support leg, said lug being formed with a perforation in line with the bore in which said other adjusting stem extends, said other stem having an end projecting outwardly of the carrying frame through said perforation in the lug, and having a peripheral rib secured between the carrying frame and said lug to prevent axial movement of said other stem on said carrying frame.
5. A gun sight as set forth in claim 2, wherein said members are formed the one with a groove and the other with a matching tongue of dovetail sectional shape for slidable engagement in said groove, the top of said tongue and bottom of said groove forming relatively slidable facing surfaces on said members, and wherein said fastening means comprises a locking notch in the slidable surface of one of said members, a ball loosely mounted and retained in a chamber formed in the other of said members and opening on the slidable surface thereof in registration with said notch, and a screw having threaded engagement in a bore in the said other of said members, said bore communicating with said chamber and the screw being tapered at its inner end, whereby tightening of the screw. in said bore, will lock said ball in said notch and thereby secure the members together in a predetermined relative position.
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|William Gadke
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|Remington Arms Co Inc
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|Oct 31, 1939
|Remington Arms Co Inc
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|Jul 29, 1941
|Collins & Aikman Corp
|Weft end control means
|Apr 11, 1941
|Feb 16, 1943
|John Beresky
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We had to watch "Time Tunnel" every Friday evening back in the heyday of
1960s-style TV sci-fi. And this show fit right in. A nice blend of
storytelling, fantasy, and early techno-gadgetry.
Much of the appeal of time travel stories relates to, surprisingly, familiarity. We've learned (or at least used to learn) in school about the Trojan War, the French Revolution, the Titanic, Billy the Kid, etc. This show re-lived those tales with a modern-day twist. What would two modern-era men do in these historical events? Would they, could they, effect changes? Should they? The shows depicting historical events were best. When it tried some standard-fare sci-fi things, like trips into the future or outer space, the stories kind of plodded along and floundered.
But...some suspension of disbelief is a must if you watch this show. First, why did the time travellers have to end up in every episode in the middle of some dangerous, terrifying, world-shaking event? Why did they never appear in my quiet backyard back in the 1950s in suburban New Jersey, or out on a farm in Kokomo, Indiana? They would have saved themselves a lot of wear and tear. Oh, but, then we wouldn't have much of a show, right? Ah. Somehow, the stars always managed to get cleaned up and a set of fresh clothes just in time to make their next time leap, no matter how badly tattered and torn they were from their current misadventure. Pretty neat, that. I wish I had one of those when I wake up at 6 a.m. But, hey, if you can make a time machine, its probably no big deal to throw in an instant clothes changer and time traveller touch-up device. Lets not be square, play along with the gag and we'll enjoy the show more.
You'll recognize many of the cast. James Darren of course was the teenage heartthrob of the early '60s as Gidget's boyfriend. Sci-fi stalwarts Whit Bissel and John Zaremba reprise familiar characters. And Lee Meriwether adds some nice eye candy as the comely and brainy project scientist.
For its time, the Tunnel featured some nifty gadgets, although some of them were borrowed for/from and used in contemporary shows like Batman and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Those ancient mainframe-style computer banks look awfully familiar from different shows. But, hey, this was the '60s, and those were pretty modern back then. The Tunnel itself was quite striking, appearing to fade off into infinity when activated thanks to the magic of matte art and decent camera work. I've heard that the show's producers originally tried for a "time vortex" effect, showing clips of stock film footage from different eras speeding by the viewer as the time travelers made another leap in time. But when they tried it the effect looked more like a blurry version of brown pea soup. So they opted for the pop-art Tunnel, with very nice results.
Overall, a good sci fi effort from the mid '60s, for those who remember such a time fondly.
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