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what? do you believe the study, dan? >> i don't know why they needed to spend money on that. i could have just told them that. >> what? >> that if they don't get fox news they should demand it. >> you really are a fool, but you're our fool. >> i love you, too. >> okay. >> what are you wearing? >> hello, everyone. i'm greg gatt field along with andrea tantaros, bob beckel and dana perrino. this is "the five. "hey, you want to get depressed. watch "the view." >> this morning's headlines had some people worried that they are going to lose their medical plans because of obama care. are you worried? >> no. >> yes, yes. >> they are not worried? >> that's not low information voting. that's no information voting f.knowledge were water, that audience is death valley. but now we're reminded of old news, the white house new millions of people would lose
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their health insurance, well, at least obama was honest with us. >> if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, can you keep your plan. if americans like their doctor, they will keep their doctor, and if you like your insurance plan you will keep it. no one will be able to take that away from you. if you're one of the more than 250 million americans who already have health insurance, will you keep your health insurance. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. >> he said period. even his punctuation lies. now the white house calls this a normal turnover, so was pompeii, but at least our leader, valerie jarrett, fought back tweeting from her cockpit within obama's cranium where she pulls the lever where she operates the sly left. he's pinky, she's the brain. the gist, plain it on the insurance company but that's like a landlord tripling your
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rent and then blaming you for leaving, but at least a 60-year-old man now has maternity care, you know, in his he gets pregnant. at some point the media has to take credit for this, coddled this regime, turning a blind eye to its incompetence. obama was the star qb who could skip out on clash, rumble the teachers and make rash demands on cheerds. the irs, benghazi, obama care, congrats, media. nice you built that. you care now but now you've got more egg on your face than michael moore at denny's. obama care will spend $2 billion that could somewhere been spent on retirement, education, kids' clothes. now they must reinvent the ruse. wealth transfer becomes health transfer. this halloween the treat was merely a trick, and the american people were left holding the bag, and it's all razor blades, no candy. so this nbc report that says that 40% to 60% of customers will lose their health coverage,
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andrea, we actually reported this three years ago, but this is now suddenly big news because nobody took it seriously. >> no one took it seriously in the media. i think very few people actually read the bill in the media because all of this information, greg, was already there. >> yeah. >> if you studied what happened in massachusetts, the same policies that were put in place in massachusetts were the same policies as part of obama care. they never bothered to research or do that story, and they also missed not what's happening in the individual market. >> right. >> so employers are cancelling plans that don't have these 15 essential benefits. states used to determine the benefits. now it's the feds, so, for example, you, if you have a plan, let's say you have an individual plan. an essential benefit is now pediatric dentistry. >> right. >> what are you going to do with that plan? your plan is likely going to get cancelled if you don't have it. >> actually, it's true, i want to have baby teeth. >> also.
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we saw employers already dropping their coverage because if they had over 50 and they didn't want to pay the fines, they said go into the exchanges so that was another lie they knew you could keep your doctor. all these seniors, too, are losing their medicare advantage. this is a story, greg, the media missed. they were supposed to lose their medicare advantage right before the election. what did the administration do? they took $8 billion as part of project demonstrations and put them in medicare advantage to just clog that hole so that that story didn't get out before the election. now all these seniors are losing their medical advantage, and medicare advantage, and the white house knew about it and lied on all three fronts. >> bob? you're scowling. do you have a report? >> there are's 311 million people in this country. less than 15 million may see their insurance changed. that have 10 million normally get it changed. for 20 years in a rote insurance company has increased fees before obama was even known. i'll shown you a little graph of insurance companies, what their
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stock was when obama took them on in 2007 and now what they are today, they are soaring. the insurance companies are making a fortune. >> wait. hold on. >> the profit margins are slim, bob, and you know it. >> it's now regulated under obama care. >> here's -- here's the other thing. you're comparing the stock price to what? >> there's no source on that graph either. >> remember what happened when president obama took over? the stock market was 6500. now it's 14,600. >> excuse me, all i'm saying -- insurance companies -- they value their stocks 65% more since obama took office. >> and they are trailing the s&p because the s&p is up over 120%. >> the fact of the matter is -- people are losing their policies, they will get better policies because the ones they are losing is crap but they could have kept them if the insurance companies would have been willing to give it to them. >> that addresses one issue. can you keep your insurance if
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you want it. there's another huge shoe to drop. you banned it. the other shoe to drop is doctors. there's a new york state study, 29,000 doctors, they conducted a poll in new york state. 44% of them said they are not participating whatsoever in obama care. 33% said they are not sure. that leaves 23% who said they are involved. of that 23%, three-quarters of those are doing it because they are contractually obligated to do that so if you take the numbers straight down the line, that leaves 6% of doctors in new york state as polled are in favor of obama care and will provide service. do you want 6% only? you want the other 94% of the people -- >> they are going to get a second job as waiters. >> what kind of health care are you going to get when the vast majority of doctors in the system don't want to be there? >> my sympathy -- >> this is important. >> fine. >> this is health care, not insurance. >> these guys -- 60%, that's all a doctor, only 6%, what are the rest are going to do?
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>> 23%. >> what about the 77%? >> 77% -- 44 said they are not doing it. >> what about new doctors? what incentives are there for young doctors going to medical schools. >> every medical school slot has been filled. >> you don't know this. >> this is the other shoe to drop. >> you said about a two weeks ago as this was all falling apart. wait for it. the insurance companies will be the ones blamed. >> right. because the administration is not that great at governing but really good at blaming, and then they blame, and then they figure out -- somehow how to express outrage and then blame the victim. >> right. it's a really impressive strategy. the insurance companies have become hardly more than public utilities, and we watched during the health care debate the insurance companies basically danced all the way with the administration up until the very end when they were going to call for the final song, and all of a sudden the administration changed the rule. the rule that we're talking about that fox reported on and now is getting a lot more attention three years later, i'm fine with that.
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when lisa myers of nbc news, the investigative reporter gets put on your story, you're in big trouble, i know from experience. >> can i ask you a question. >> yeah, sure. >> thank you. >> i didn't even say anything until eight minute of the show. >> i want to ask you a question. >> the insurance companies for 20 rooms, according to our brain room, before obama was around, every year for 20 years they increased on the average of 20%, their premiums. let me ask you a question here. the old days, the good old days were pre-obama care -- >> you just said they increased our premiums 20% every year since -- before obama came along. is that what you said? >> that doesn't make any sense. >> average is 20% every year. >> you're out of your mind. i'm sorry, chuck berry, can you call the brain room and see if they said the insurance company increased premiums 20% every year. >> by the way, even if the premiums were increased, doesn't matter -- it's because medical care goes up, the profit mar
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jibs are still incredibly slim. >> you want to go back to the good old days of before this health care discussion. >> yeah. >> nice tactic. >> it was nice. >> bob, we talked about this, there were minimal increases, and the way to deal with that was open up insurance over state lines and get the plans and insurers to compete with that. >> i would do that. >> why didn't your administration do that? >> i wasn't there. >> this is a long-term plan for single payer. they are going to let this thing fall apart so it ends up becoming a single payer government-sponsored program. here's ed henry. let's throw to some tape because we need to calm down here. >> the president, september of 2009. quote, i want to spend a few minutes debunking some of the more outrageous myths circulating on the internet. if you like your private health insurance plan, can you keep your plan, period. okay. >> ed -- >> do the president's words matter when he sells a big thing like that? >> ed, again, all i ask of
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everybody else is to provide the context. all i ask is that you note the population that we're talking about and you note the fact that the affordable care act, as written, allows that if you have the insurance on the individual market the president was talking about before the passage of the affordable care act and you wanted to keep it, you could keep it. what we obviously cannot do or could not do in the interim was prevent insurers from cancelling that policy and then offering a new one. >> andrea, how do you do there? >> not very well. not very well at all. your analogy when you opened the show was about a landlord. that was a great analogy. imagine mandating that everybody rents but landlords have to put all these essential benefits in the apartment but not everyone needs a new sound system or a high range stove or something like this. >> yes. >> and then they get blamed as they jack up the prices for the rent, they get blamed for cancelling all of the leases. >> how many people lost their insurance policies? >> millions. i predict at least 10 million people are going to lose.
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>> 311 million people. >> you don't care about the individual. you really don't. that's basically what they are saying. >> we went with that bimbo down in florida who said her insurance was 50 bucks and now 536. she had no plan. >> how do you know she is a bimbo? >> that's a nice word. >> i'll stop. >> basically the white house staff did not know what they were talking about, or they told the president something false, or they all knew what was going in on it. that's the bottom line news story of the day which is people realize that they are going to have changes in their health care. they were -- but they are really mad that they were lied to. >> can i ask, dana, how in the world would they let him go out there and say it, you mulled three or four, they let him do that month after month after month knowing very well they put it out themselves in 2010. >> but if the insurance companies hadn't changed their plans. >> they were required to change
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their plan under the law, bob. >> grandfathered. then you just walked yourself right into a trap, bob. >> do you think that everybody loves their insurance plan right now? >> i think it's like congress. i think most people like their own insurance plan but they hate the insurance company. >> 60% of the bankruptcies -- >> at least they can choose. a one fits all program where kathleen sebelius says these are the essential benefits for the entire united states of america and you have to follow them is not choice, and that's what they said would happen so this administration knew exactly what it was doing, and it's not insurance company's fault that employers that have over 50 employees are saying forget this. it's too costly. go into the exchanges. that was an easy lie that he didn't have to make. >> they made their own bed. >> coming, we're going to take a look at some of the most something something provocative media reaction to the late -- they were so interested in what we were talking about they
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welcome back, everybody. they say politics makes for strange bedfellows and since the launch of the mandated health care law, politics has been front and center in the media. three examples of media talking heads saying the darnedest things. first up, nbc talking goatee chuck todd seems to be carrying the water for the obama administration by blaming the insurance companies, bob, for the new revelation that millions will lose their coverage under obama care. >> they put themselves in the hands of the insurance companies. they were making promises that they were hoping the insurance companies were going to keep, but when you think about that initial statement, and at the time, all of us said we're highly skeptical of how he could make that promise. i never understood why he said if you like your health care plan you can keep it because he
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was relying somehow on the insurance companies. >> no, no. >> dana, your thoughts on that. that's exactly what we were talking about in the "a" block. >> it is, that's why we'll talk about it again because it's so compelling. when the president was saying if you want -- if you like your health care you can keep, it it was basically the mantra of the entire campaign, people that questioned that, looking at the facts, we were considered crazy and hateful and racist, and you name all of the things, and now the media is saying oh, yeah, we all knew that. we didn't understand why they were saying that. i think that's remarkable >> you know what he did? he indicted hope. chuck todd said that, you know, they were hoping that the insurance policies would fall in line, but hope is not a campaign. hope is not real. if that's -- you hope that iran will cooperate. that's a stupid strategy. hope is pointless. it's good to see chuck todd realizing that. >> was there any basis, as chuck
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points out, that they were hoping the insurance companies would stay on board? was there any basis for that? did they even think about, by the way, if it's not profitable to keep this insurance company but we do it because we're an insurance company, and i have the opportunity to cancel that one? >> why didn't they think of that before. >> because nobody in the administration has ever run a business. >> right. >> they go from the faculty lounge to the public sector. no one has ever managed anything. they don't understand making a profit and clearly look at our national debt, so the insurance companies are looking at this right now. many of these insurance companies didn't even want to participate in obama care. they are getting an influx of sick people into the system. it's going to cost them so much money, and they have until i guess thursday, eric, to decide if they don't want to be part of it. also, if cms breeches a lot of these, a lot more insurance companies will say we're out of here and that's how they make the case for single payer. >> the insurance companies could
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have issued these policies if you wanted to. >> which ones are you talking about? >> the ones that they are getting the letter, the policies that were there, if the insurance companies wanted, to they could have kept the insurance policies. >> they have to include these certain things. >> i understand that. >> but they are getting -- the onus is put on for the policies, all the other ones. the lady in florida that you're talking about, she didn't have 15 different things in her policy. that's why she was paying 50 bucks a month. now they are required to give her 15 different things and it costs to insure that 500 a month. it's playing with the free market. >> a lot of things she didn't need. >> in a rare movement sanity or sobriety, tingles matthews over at msnbc questioning president obama's cred. >> i think it's a real challenge if people with regular policies out there that covered normal medical expenses are told wait a minute that policy doesn't count. i think that will be a real problem for the president in terms of his credibility, if that is in that list.
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>> what do you think, greg? >> chris matthews saying you have a credibility issue is like mike tyson saying you have a tattoo on your face problem. >> thoughts? >> i think at some point these reporters are interested in covering their own burkts and can you not defend the indefensible so even chris matthews is saying whose credibility is more important, mine or barry's. i'll do mine insgled go ahead, robert. >> first of all, i think robert should not have -- i mean, would i not -- you never make an absolute statement in politics because it always comes back to bite you. >> why did he? he's a good politician? >> well, it was a campaign. you say it was a campaign. >> he had already won. >> let me put it this way. the number of people affected by this in a country of 311 minu 1s this in a country of 311 minu31n people is miniscule.
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>> dana? >> i think this proves that this administration and their surrogates do not care about the individual. if you have employer-sponsored coverage, they are fine with that. if you want to be in medicaid or medicare, they want you there, but if you are an individual and you're a small business owner and you're trying to make it on your own, they don't give a crap about you. >> they don't care? >> you just said you don't care about them. you just said it. >> you said it's miniscule. >> wait a minute. >> why would he do that. well, he was in a campaign, so can we summarize it was politics over policy, can we? >> certainly that statement was -- we probably could say it was politics over policy, yeah. in the end you're arguing over a chump change amount of people most of whom can either afford it. >> you heard it here, folks. democrats think individuals are chump change. that's what you voted for. >> one last thought. you know who is getting their insurance policies pulled out from under them. it's not wealthy people. it's poor people. it's the people who don't have enough bells and whistles in their policies. finally in a bat of the big dogs, check out two vastly different opinions on the obama care fallout. on the left howard dean and on the right dr. charles
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krauthammer, both doctor by the way. >> i think obama care is in fact going to be the reason that we are going to pick up seats in the house, and we are not going to lose the senate. >> when the other guy is committing suicide, get out of the way. this could be a setback for the entitlement state and the liberal arrogant idea that could set them back for a decade, and they know it. which is why they are terrified. >> dr. dean -- did howard dean think that in 2010 which was an historic loss for the incumbent party after a major piece of legislation was passed? in 2010 the democrats lost more seats than any other party had lost in a first-year mid-term. i don't know what changes all of a sudden for him the calculation that we found out that the president told you something that is not true so now vote for them? >> they were saying in 2010 they were getting people to vote against them. obama and his people were completely outmaneuvered in 2010 which the tea party people who
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sent out a lot of misleading information. >> the tea party people who said don't believe the president who said you could keep your plan. >> the tea party is now right. i can understand how howard dean is maybe making that point to spin it if the website were working, and this is one thing we're not even talking about. all of these states that are taking all of these new medicaid patients that cost people nothing to sign up. single guys living at their girlfriend's apartment or living with their parents or on their own, before you needed a kid to get medicaid, now you don't. those hundreds of thousands of people that we're all going to be paying for, that debate hasn't even started yet. that's another thing that they lied to us about. >> guys, the only thingis when you watch howard dean speak and then charles krauthammer, it's quite a -- it's like going from highlights to "war on peace," you know, two doctors, which would you rather be treated by. >> go ahead, robert. i'm sorry. that's it? 's all you've got.
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i've got some things to say but i'll wait until the end of the show. >> isn't that why you said push the individual mandate back to prevent all these political problems? >> i think this is all -- i mean, i think you all are throwing fearmongering among people. i think the obama administration did not tell them the straight story, and i think the insurance companies underneath all of it have manipulate it had. >> coming up. >> moving right along. >> moving right along, kathleen sebelius will finally be testifying on capitol hill tomorrow. we got our hands on a copy of her prepared remarks. we'll give you a sneak peek coming up. check out our new website at foxnews.com/thefive. stay with us.
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tomorrow kathleen snowmobile us, secretary of health and human services, the agency at the center of the calamitous rollout of obama care, is going to testify in front of the house energy and commerce committee. we'll have complete coverage of that tomorrow night on "the five" but in advance of the hearing i was inspired over the weekend. i wrote a couple for knocksnews.com with five suggestions for house republicans on how to get the most out of her appearance on the hill tomorrow. these are the ones that i came up, and i'm sure there are others that my panelists here will be able to talk about. one is that they could take the opportunity to make a new impression. this is -- a lot of people will be watching tomorrow maybe for the first time, that they should come with more facts. they should bottle the fake outrage which is my biggest complaint about the hearings. channel their frustration and then also be able to crisply describe the policies that they are for, not just what they are against. eric, i wanted to ask you if you were a congressman and tomorrow you were in the house energy and commerce committee, what would you ask the secretary? >> when -- well, there would be
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two. when do you expect the obama care website to be up? i think they have to stay on it. there's plenty of time to talk about all the costs and what not and dropping the insurance coverage. and are we mixing it and who is paying? sunday the connectionite was down and monday it was down. i told the story yesterday. i spent 40 minutes on there getting through two steps in the process creating the account. i went down to "five" and went back on today and typed in my account and said there's no account anymore so i called the call center. very nice lady told me they are -- she said experiencing glitches. we hope to have them fixed by the end of november, and then she read a statement to me. you've got to hear this. we apologize for any technical difficulties you may be experiencing as you use healthcare.gov. we know this may be frustrating, and we're working to improve healthcare.gov to make sure your experience with it is a positive one. >> good luck with that. and i yeah, how would you approach the questions tomorrow? what do you think if the
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republicans were envisioning their best headlines out of the hearing, what would that be? >> first, i would set her up for failure and i would ask her how many non-subsidized healthy people they expect to actually be enrolled by october 2014, october 1st? why is that important, a month before the mid-term elections. they will never be able to make that goal, but pin her down on a number tomorrow. also, i would ask her did president obama know that millions were going to lose their individual coverage? if so, who briefed him and when did he know? did he know that in fact and the i was also pin her down on that. if i were her tomorrow, dana, i'd have a total attitude adjustment. i wouldn't come out there and say i don't work for anyone who doesn't like this plan. i would be humble and determined and grateful to fix this. >> greg, one of the things that i mentioned in the piece, and we were talking about it last week, i felt sorry for the witness
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last week. why do i feel sorry for them but it's because like the members were being jerks. >> a couple of suggestions to add to your -- remember al i ever north. all you've got to be remembered. he appeared to be ganged up and he appeared to be the david to the goliath. get a haircut, republicans. tired of the goofy looking haircuts. what to wear, an ascot, a fez, pipe would be nice, monacle. get to the point, no compliments, no insults. ask the questions that matter. you know, during the whole benghazi stuff, i don't think anybody asked who pushed the video? you've got to ask the major questions, and quote me at every opportunity. >> bob, is there anyone you want to give advice to tom.
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>> first of all, iationed to a good portion of that hearing today and maybe they should understand what they are talking about. i why back to district which is a reach and i talk to hundreds of my constituents, and they are all losing their health insurance. they have got to be specific. the moral outrage. i can't understand him. the chairman was worse. it's just so bay clantly political. you know why? they don't understand it and ought to go read the bill. >> athlete sebelius is going to address the website and its 3.5% success rate. over 96% failed so far and those only talks about the employees. kathleen, have you less than 2% success rate in enrolling people into obama care.
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certainly i was not. >> so do you believe him? eric? >> do you think i believe him. >> again, like we said yesterday. anything bad that happens, i didn't know about it, i heard about it in the media but neglect that's going for him he takes the credit, the drone site. data mining 11 billion e-mails when president obama doesn't know about benghazi and the irs until he hears it in the media. it's a lack of character. own up to the mistakes. people would appreciate you more. >> dana, i don't believe him on some of the other scandals from the sound bites that he said he had no idea about, but could it be possible that he didn't know about this? for example, intelligence briefings often say, okay, merkel supports a missile deagainst program for the pols.
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it wouldn't say angela merkel supports the program because we tapped her phone. wouldn't a skilled leader though ask the question. >> where did you get that information? how did you confirm it? >> he knows. the president knows where they got the information. >> i don't like the president having to be in that position because we're talking about intelligence-gathering and protecting other countries so he's basically now in a situation where he said i'm not going to confirm the rumors so the question was decent. i think they are asking the wrong question. let's say president obama didn't know about it. about hillary clinton know when she was going to meet with world leaders? did she ever get information gleaned from those intelligence briefings? i would love to know that. somebody should ask her. >> i think there's a chance maybe on this one, greg, that maybe he didn't know. maybe there's honesty coming out of the president saying i didn't know because they wouldn't say how they got the information and
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they didn't ask the question, but didn't this program seem a little weird? there was no discretionary decisions, seemed blanket. angela merkel y.her? why not specific inmiss. yo not the people who subs dougherty the attacks. president obama, for a guy who loss of to wear awareness. he's like a having a personal trainer. he has more dodges than a used car lot. >> what do you think was going on, orders for frank fusters? >> i don't know. >> what if he didn't know? isn't that more disturbing? >> yes. >> that's very disturbing. >> well, that means that he's playing more golf than going to the intel briefings which we know he's doing any. box doesn't the united states have a history of spying on foreign leaders? this isn't a new thing.
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>> i think one of the questions, first of all, i think in all these things, even if he didn't know he sawed say the responsibility is mine. my sympathy for foreign leaders like merkel is zero. every situation -- from george bush, to bill clinton to h.w. bush. >> to george washington. >> nothing new. why these allies are so disturbed by it. >> do you think they are doing it for show. >> yes. >> and i think president obama is in a position where he didn't want to hurt their allies in domestic policy so they have to think about ahead. yes we stopped that. the wows could not have reviewed the policy and stopped it and never knew about it because that means he didn't make any of the decisions. >> here's leader so and so
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wouldn't you sort of assume from that quote -- >> if you are a highly skilled leader who follows up how do we get the information. if you assume he's not reading the briefing, the president has not been reading his intelligence briefings. didn't read benghazi. he was golfing. >> i would be shocked if the president of the united states didn't read his morning briefing, really. coming up, bob has good advice on what he thinks the president should do with obama care. hint, the rest of the table may not agree with his regular nations either.
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plan. and we need to get the insurance companies, which are flush with cash, have caused unbelievable distress among people, lie and do a lot of other things. i think you need to get them out of the way. have the one system that everybody can pretty much agree on, medicare works pretty well in this country. medicare is a single parent plan. that's what we need for everybody in america. and get the insurance companies out of it. and i think, i think, mr. obama, i really hope you reconsider this because in the election if this thing goes the way it's going, we're going to hurt the democrats a lot. let's get on single pair and let people understand what it's about and stop arguing with the insurance companies. go ahead. >> really? >> yeah. >> well, if that's the plan, if you think that works great, any other industries you want to wipe out arbitrarily because you think the government can do a better job? when they've never been able to do a single industry right. >> how about medicare?
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>> medicare is good. $200 billion in waste and fraud a year is good. more of that? i can't. >> i think that obama care is what run into a real difficulty with medicare when the cuts to doctors go through and gets back to eric's point of who is going to be willing to be a medicare doctor anymore. i think that there's only one thing worse than the companies being in charge. and that's the government being in charge. >> uh-huh. >> yeah. i mean, you are critical of obama care because it didn't go far enough, which is like being critical of the exxon valdes because it didn't kill enough ducks. i don't understand, why do we have to demonize an industry that's made up of people with -- insurance industry, these are people that get up and go to work every day just like everybody else and they have an expertise and make very slim profit margins. these are not greedy people. >> i'm not going to defend the insurance companies, but a single pair is the stupidest
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thing you could ever, ever do. president obama would have loved to get single payer, a lot of liberals would have loved it but the support in the democratic caucus was not there. it's great if you're healthy, bob. if you're sick, it's a real problem because they mend out what you pay for certain services. you have unhappy doctors if you can find doctors. you have long lines because everybody enrolls -- can i finish? >> sure. >> you have long lines because everybody enrolls. the quality of care is dmv style health care. it is a terrible idea. >> this is down to one simple thing, eric, a lot of people like to do away with entitlements and i want to see entitlements being spend. >> if you do away with entitlements, you keep your own money. >> tell a poor person that has a lot of extra money to take care of them. >> tell the poor person they have opportunity to make more money. >> that's political argument. we'll see what happens. >> america with benefits have the president's policies turned the united states into a welfare
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billy ray and miley. >> who did you dress up as? >> that was me and my boyfriend tim and there we are in real life so you can see who's the good sport. he wore a mull et wig. that is love. >> eric. >> quickly, we're going to run out of time. red sox go up 3-2 on st. louis. st. louis has been down three times and five of six times they won the world series. that's wednesday and thursday night. >> bob. >> sochi, the winter olympics in russia and i will nominate today they had a little p.r. in times square and i went down and tried a few of these things. oh, yeah, it was really great. and this poor guy at the end likes dana a lot. he got crushed. anyway e we're going to do a whole thing on it storm because it was a lot of fun and i'm hurting like i'm tired. go ahead. >> you know what, i don't have one. so i think we should sing a song. shall we?
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SHEBOYGAN, Wis. -- We should have seen this coming.
After all, he held his own playing with Tiger Woods at the Masters. And he followed that up a few months later by tying for 14th at the U.S. Open as an amateur.
Pretty good stuff for a guy who was wet behind the ears -- and whose smile covers the distance between them.
Of course, that was 1998. So perhaps it was a long time coming.
The impressive game and friendly demeanor stamped Matt Kuchar as a star of the future. He was a first-team all-America at Georgia Tech, had won the U.S. Amateur, and was destined for greatness.
It hasn't exactly worked out that way.
Kuchar, 32, is the clubhouse leader at the PGA Championship and until this year never had a finish as high in a major championship as he did 12 years ago when he didn't know any better.
Now he does and has come to realize why it took so long.
"I think it's golf," said Kuchar, who shot 3-under-par 69 at Whistling Straits to complete 36 holes at 136, 8 under par. "I think that's what happens. There aren't many people here that play this game that don't have ups and downs."
Kuchar is having an excellent season, tying for the PGA Tour lead with eight top-10s. The second of his two PGA Tour victories came last fall at the Turning Stone event.
Adding some irony to the scenario Friday was his former Georgia Tech teammate Bryce Molder popping up on the leaderboard. Molder, 31 finished three strokes back of Kuchar, a scene that figured to play out many times by now.
That's because Molder's collegiate career was more decorated that Kuchar's. Molder was a four-time all-American at Georgia Tech and a three-time ACC player of the year.
But nine years after turning pro, Molder has yet to win on the PGA Tour. He has a single Nationwide Tour victory, in 2006, the same year that Kuchar had to take a step down to the developmental tour. Until last year, Molder had posted just three top-10s in his career.
"I think there's certainly a maturing process," Kuchar said. "I would have told you, hands down, Bryce would have dominated out here straightaway. I thought Bryce had no chinks in the armor. I thought out of school he was, hands down, the best player in college golf. I thought there was a guy who's going straight to the big leagues and going to do well out here.
"It's just a funny game."
For Molder it has been a far tougher road than the one traveled by Kuchar. Only in the past two years has he started to have some success on the PGA Tour, topping $1 million in earnings last year for the first time and doing so again this year, as he has posted six top-10s and nine top-25s.
"Everybody, we're finding out, has trouble throughout their career at some point or another," Molder said. "I think 15 years from now I'll feel like I was fortunate to do it early and learn and be humbled by the experience and enjoy the rest of the journey. That's what I'm really enjoying the last two or three years is just the climb. And I don't even know where the journey ends.
"We thought it might happen a little sooner," Molder said about success for Kuchar and himself. "Things happened. This game's tough. There are a lot of really good players. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure out how to play your best, how to maximize your efforts out here, and I feel like he's just hitting his stride and I feel like I'm doing the same."
Kuchar is undoubtedly one of the most improved players on tour in recent years.
This year, he ranks first in the tour's all-around statistical category, which includes a scoring average of 69.72 that ranks fifth. He is ninth in greens in regulation. Three years ago, after returning from a stint on the Nationwide Tour, he ranked 98th overall and 84th in greens in regulation.
"It's been fun to watch," said Lance Bennett, Kuchar's caddie since 2006. "There's been a steady progression the last four years. He's gotten better every year. There doesn't seem to be a weakness in his game. And his putting has been phenomenal."
Even Colin Montgomerie was impressed. The European Ryder Cup captain, who will miss the cut at Whistling Straits, played with Kuchar during the first two rounds.
"He handled himself very well leading the tournament," Montgomerie said. "Holed a couple of great putts this morning [in the completion of the first round]. Very, very solid player. As solid a player as I have played with on the U.S. Tour for a long time and someone who will be a great asset to their Ryder Cup team, I am sure."
Molder got to witness some of that good play first hand this week.
Although he's been playing in the group in front of Kuchar for the first two rounds, they played practice rounds together prior to the tournament. They played 18 holes on Tuesday and nine more on Wednesday.
"He had 13 birdies," Molder said. ""Let's just say I didn't. I actually still owe him right now."
It is the kind of golf that Kuchar took for granted all those years ago.
"It's going by so fast," he said. "I still find myself feeling almost like a rookie. I still feel like I'm the kid from '97 winning the U.S. Amateur and playing the Masters in '98. I still feel like I'm that same kid. It seems like that is just a blink of an eye ago."
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After being upset in the quarterfinals of the Central Mass. Division 5 playoffs, Auburn High wasn't in the best of moods.
The Rockets were not gracious hosts on Friday night, rolling to a 41-14 victory over Uxbridge High in a nonplayoff matchup. Junior Mark Wright had a huge game, rushing for 257 yards and four touchdowns on runs of 20, 26, 37 and 49 yards.
It was an impressive win for Auburn, which was eliminated from the postseason by Bartlett, ending a streak of five consecutive Super Bowl appearances.
"I'm very happy with how the kids came out and played (after a tough loss last week)," Auburn coach Jeff Cormier said. "Our intensity level was way up, and a lot of guys really left it out on the field. Hopefully, we can keep that going next week."
The Rockets (6-3) are likely to face David Prouty, which defeated Gardner. Uxbridge (6-3) is likely to face Gardner.
After the teams traded first-quarter touchdowns — a 20-yard run by Wright and a 3-yard run by Uxbridge's Cam Stewart — the Rockets took control. Quarterback Adam Gustafson connected with Mike Jankowski for a 20-yard touchdown pass with 6:17 left in the first half to give Auburn a 14-7 lead.
Wright took over from there, scoring on a 26-yard run four plays after Mike Tomas picked off a Jake Taparauski pass, and then ending the half with a 37-yard scoring run, to make it 28-7 at the break.
His domination continued on the first two Auburn possessions of the second half as he scored on a 49-yard run on the Rockets' first play from scrimmage, then ended his night with a 39-yard run that set up a 7-yard touchdown run by Jared Romero.
"Mark ran with a purpose (tonight), which was great to see," Cormier said. "Our line did a great job, and once Mark got into the secondary, he does what he does. He had a good night for sure."
Cormier praised the play of his offensive linemen — led by Avery Sweet, Will Greelish, Zach Randal and Mike Worster — for their domination of the line of scrimmage.
The line opened holes all night for Wright, T.J. Medlin and Gustafson.
Stewart added his second touchdown of the game late in the third period. Jared Stewart led Uxbridge with 93 yards rushing, while Taparauski rushed for 63 yards.
"We did a great job against an excellent football team," Cormier said. "A lot of guys upped their level of play and earned us a win. It was great to see."
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Snag (ecology)
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In forest ecology, a snag refers to a standing, dead or dying tree, often missing a top or most of the smaller branches. In freshwater ecology it refers to trees, branches, and other pieces of naturally occurring wood found sunken in rivers and streams; it is also known as coarse woody debris. When used in manufacturing, especially in Scandinavia, they are often called "dead wood" and in Finland "kelo wood".
Forest snags[edit]
Large standing snags provide critical habitat for many species both faunal and avifaunal such as woodpeckers that feed on insects dwelling in decomposing wood. Because snags are a result of decay, they are soft enough for woodpeckers and other cavity excavators to make entrance holes and cavities. Snags often lack branches and dense canopies which allow for unobstructed flight movements by birds during predation. This makes snags optimal habitat for woodpeckers such as the pileated woodpecker which create the majority of cavities used by secondary cavity users in forest ecosystems. Because snags are not resourceful for timber harvests, they are often left behind and help maintain the biodiversity of the area which may have otherwise been lost. In the Puget Sound ecosystem, research and observations have shown that the pileated woodpecker excavates cavities for more than 80 species and the stabilization of their population relies on snags being conserved during or after timber harvests.
Snag persistence depends on two factors, the size of the stem, and the durability of the wood of the species concerned. The snags of some large conifers, such as coast redwood on the Pacific Coast of North America and Alerce in Patagonia, can remain intact for 100 years or more, becoming progressively shorter with age, while other snags with rapidly decaying wood, such as aspen and birch, break up and collapse in 2–10 years.
Snag trees are referred to for various bird species. Water hunting birds like the osprey or kingfishers can be found near water, perched in a snag tree, or feeding upon their fish catch.
Freshwater snags[edit]
In the freshwater ecology in Australia and the United States, the term snag is used to refer to the trees, branches and other pieces of naturally occurring wood found in a sunken form in rivers and streams. Such snags have been identified as being critical for shelter and as spawning sites for fish, and are one of the few hard substrates available for biofilm growth supporting aquatic invertebrates in lowland rivers flowing through alluvial flood plains. Snags are important as sites for biofilm growth and for shelter and feeding of aquatic invertebrates in both lowland and upland rivers and streams.
In Australia, the role of freshwater snags has been largely ignored until recently, and more than one million snags have been removed from the Murray-Darling basin. Large tracts of the lowland reaches of the Murray-Darling system are now devoid of the snags that native fish like Murray cod require for shelter and breeding. The damage such wholesale snag removal has caused is clearly enormous, but is difficult to quantify (but see [1]). Most snags in these systems are river red gum snags. As the dense wood of river red gum is almost impervious to rot it is thought that some of the river red gum snags removed in past decades may have been several thousand years old.
Maritime Hazard[edit]
Also known as deadheads, partially submerged snags posed hazards to early riverboat navigation and commerce. If hit, snags punctured the wooden hulls used in the 19th century and early 20th century. Snags were, in fact, the most commonly encountered hazard, especially in the early years of steamboat travel.[1] In the United States, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers operated "snag boats" such as the W. T. Preston in the Puget Sound of Washington State and the Montgomery in the rivers of Alabama to pull out and clear snags.[citation needed] Starting in 1824, there were successful efforts to remove snags from the Mississippi and its tributaries.[1] By 1835, a Lieutenant reported to the Chief of Engineers that steamboat travel had become much safer, but by the mid-1840s the appropriations for snag removal dried up and snags re-accumulated until after the Civil War.[1]
"Dead wood" products[edit]
In Scandinavia and Finland snags, invariably pine trees, known in Finnish as kelo and in Swedish as torraka, are collected for the production of different objects, from furniture to entire log houses. Commercial enterprises market them abroad as "dead wood" or in Finland as "kelo wood". They have been especially prized for their silver-grey weathered surface in the manufacture of vernacular or national romantic products. The suppliers of "dead wood" emphasise its age: the wood has developed with dehydration in the dry coldness of the subarctic zones, the tree having stopped growing after some 300–400 years, and the tree has remained upright for another few hundred years. "Dead wood" logs are easier to transport and handle than normal logs due to their lightness.
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- ^ a b c Hunter, Lewis C. (1977). Steamboats on the Western Rivers. New York: Dover Publications. pp. 193–272.


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