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Membership Quick Hits
For detailed membership information, you can always call our Main Office at 806-742-3351.
Our Main Office hours are Monday - Friday 8:00am - 5:00pm and Wednesdays until 6:00pm. The Main Office is located on the second floor of the Texas Tech Student Rec Center, room 202.
Summer Only Membership Rates for 2015-16
Annual memberships run from August 17, 2015 to August 14, 2016. New annual memberships may be purchased starting on August 17, 2015 in the main office of the Rec Center, room 202.
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|Starting Payroll Deduction is simple! Just follow these instructions! **Payroll deduction for the 2015-16 year will end on Friday, May 17**
1) Come up to the Main Office, room 202 to start your membership!
2) Fill out payroll deduction paperwork while we get you registered for your membership
3) Pay the down payment of $15 for a Faculty/Staff membership, $10 for Faculty/Staff Spouse membership and $5 for each Faculty/Staff Child membership to get the payroll deduction started (Your payroll deduction will not start until the second paycheck after you sign up)
4) Enjoy the Rec!
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Alumni must show proof as TTU graduate or show Alumni Association card
State, School Districts and UMC employees must provide a paystub for proof of employment
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Types of Memberships
Undergraduate and graduate students taking one (1) or more academic hours on the Lubbock campus will pay the Rec Sports semester fee. Some students will have a fee waiver in place and must purchase a membership in person at the Rec Sports Office or have Student Business Services activate the Rec Sports fee on their student accounts.
Graduate Teaching Assistants & Research Assistants
Graduate TA and RA students who have waived their fees must purchase a membership in the Rec Sports Office. All students must present their Texas Tech ID to be admitted to Rec facilities.
Texas Tech University and Texas Tech Health Sciences Center Faculty/Staff
TTU and TTUHSC faculty and staff are eligible to purchase a Recreational Sports membership by stopping by the Main Office of the Rec Center, room 202 and presenting their vaild TTU or TTUHSC ID card. TTU and TTUHSC faculty and staff can also self sponsor membership for a single day by presenting your ID at our ID stations and paying the $10 faculty/staff one day pass fee.
Spouse memberships are available for students and faculty/staff members. Proof of marriage might be required.
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Children of student, faculty/staff, alumni, state, LISD and UMC Rec Sports members are also allowed to have membership to all Rec Sports Facilities.
Restrictions do apply. For restrictions, please refer to our membership policies here.
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Allows any eligible person who purchases a membership to buy one additional membership at the adjuct rate. All Adjunct memberships are for the current semester. No annual memberships are available for adjunct members.
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Apple Thunderbolt display exhibits noise issue with new MacBook Air
07/17/2012, 12:07 am
A number of MacBook Air owners are experiencing audio issues when they connect their laptops to Apple's Thunderbolt display and complain of static, distortion and crackling emanating from the speakers built into the 27-inch screen's chassis.
Shipping times for Retina display MacBook Pro improve to 2-3 weeks
07/13/2012, 09:07 am
Apple has begun catching up with demand for its popular new MacBook Pro with Retina display, as estimated shipping times have improved to two-to-three weeks.
US PC shipments drop 6% as Apple posts 4% gain
07/11/2012, 04:07 pm
Estimated quarterly PC shipments show the overall U.S. market declined 5.7 percent year over year in the second quarter of 2012 while Apple grew 4.3 percent.
San Francisco to cease Mac purchases without EPEAT certification
07/10/2012, 11:07 am
Officials in the city of San Francisco are moving to block the purchases of new Macs after Apple removed EPEAT certification from its laptops and desktops.
Ultrabook makers fear design patent lawsuits from Apple - report
07/09/2012, 01:07 pm
PC makers are said to be "facing threats from Apple" over Ultrabook designs that resemble the ultraportable MacBook Air.
Google admits Chrome bug responsible for crashing MacBook Airs
06/29/2012, 12:06 am
Google has accepted responsibility for a kernel panic issue on Apple's new MacBook Airs that was apparently being caused by a graphics resource leak in its Chrome browser.
Apple explains MacBook Pro Retina Display settings with support FAQ
06/27/2012, 01:06 am
A Frequently Asked Questions page on Apple's support website offers detailed information about settings for the new MacBook Pro with Retina Display in an attempt to clear up confusion about the new screen's capabilities in low-resolution mode and Microsoft's Windows operating system.
PC makers struggle as Apple locks up metal chassis supply
06/26/2012, 09:06 am
Supply of metal chassis for ultraportable PC notebooks remains constrained as Apple has reportedly locked up most of the capacity available from suppliers.
Retina display image retention reported by new MacBook Pro owners
06/25/2012, 05:06 pm
Some early adopters of the new MacBook Pro with Retina display are experiencing image persistence issues with the laptop's high-resolution screen, prompting Apple to replace any possibly defective units.
Discounted MacBook Pros with Retina display now in stock; 50% off AppleCare
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While Apple's online store continues to list wait times of 2 to 3 weeks on new orders for its 15-inch MacBook Pros with Retina display, one of the company's authorized resellers -- which is also offering AppleInsider readers the lowest prices anywhere -- has received stock of the high-end model and is ready ship the new notebooks immediately. Separately, a second reseller is offering additional savings when purchasing new Macs alongside AppleCare.
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With its two Thunderbolt ports and an integrated HDMI port, Apple's new Retina Display-equipped 15-inch MacBook Pro can power up to three external monitors for an impressive total of four screens.
Teardown of non-Retina MacBook Pro finds thicker RAM slots, hard drive
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Apple's updated MacBook Pros featuring the same design as the last generation are thicker than the new Retina display model thanks to stacked RAM slots and a 2.5-inch hard disk drive.
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At least one of the suppliers for Apple's new high-resolution MacBook Pro Retina display has been identified as LG Display.
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Apple's next-generation MacBook Pro represents a marriage between the design of the whisper-thin MacBook Air and the power of the previous MacBook Pro. But it's the feature that sets this notebook apart ��its high-resolution Retina display ��that makes this new notebook decidedly more "Pro" than "Air."
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A disassembly of the new MacBook Pro's Retina display has revealed Apple's impressive design for the high-resolution screen, featuring a glass-free front that allows the screen to be thinner than its predecessor.
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Days after the new MacBook Pro with Retina display was unveiled, the first shipments of Apple's next-generation notebook have begun to arrive. AppleInsider offers a closer look at its new, thinner design and high-resolution display.
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Reviewers are floored by the high-resolution Retina display on Apple's next-generation MacBook Pro, but remain put off by the $2,200 entry price.
Google promises Chrome support for MacBook Pro with Retina Display
06/13/2012, 09:06 pm
Google revealed on Wednesday that it is "committed to polishing" its Chrome browser to take advantage of Apple's new MacBook Pro with Retina Display.
Teardown of Retina MacBook Pro finds soldered RAM, proprietary SSD
06/13/2012, 08:06 am
Apple's new Retina display MacBook Pro has been taken apart and examined from the inside, revealing that the RAM is soldered onto the logic board and cannot be upgraded, and that the proprietary solid-state drive memory was supplied by Samsung.
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06/13/2012, 02:06 am
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Fifty years since African leaders gathered enthusiastically to launch a common bloc, heads of state will meet this weekend to celebrate despite a patchy record and still struggling efforts to unite the continent.
Today's 54-member African Union (AU) is the successor of the Organisation of African Unity (OAU), established amid the heady days as independence from colonial rule swept the continent in 1963.
At the milestone half century, commentators reflect the bloc's mixed legacy: from the OAU years, when leaders shirked intervention in neighbourly nations and treated the organisation as a gentleman's club; to the AU's harder role in speaking out -- and imposing sanctions -- on nations not toeing the line.
"I've been working with the OAU/AU since 1996, and can attest to the progress, particularly in terms of peace and security as well as governance," said Jakkie Cilliers, director of South Africa's Institute for Security Studies (ISS).
In recent years, the AU's role in combat -- such as its mission in Somalia to battle Al-Qaeda linked Islamists -- has shown it can take concrete action, even if the funding for that mission comes mainly from Western backers.
At the same time, the splits revealed by the 2011 conflict in Libya -- when members squabbled between those wanting to recognise rebels and those backing Moamer Kadhafi -- showed its disunity and lack of global clout.
"Libya was a fractious issue with flip-flopping of member states who weren't quite sure what their position should be," said Alex Vines, of Britain's Chatham House think tank.
Kadhafi's death also stripped the AU of a major source of funding. Leaders will discuss finding backers for the cash-strapped body at a two-day summit following Saturday's anniversary celebrations.
The AU took over from the OAU in 2002, switching its name in a bid to shrug off its troubled past.
"Most leaders were internally regressive in terms of democracy and human rights," said Mehari Tadelle Maru, an independent analyst and former AU program coordinator, referring to the OAU era.
"But they were progressive externally because they were spearheading the anti-colonial and anti-apartheid struggle," he told AFP.
OAU non-interference in member states' affairs allowed leaders to shirk democratic elections and abuse human rights without criticism from their neighbours, he said.
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In comparison, the AU has spoken out against unconstitutional changes of government, suspending members and applying sanctions.
Between 2003 and 2012, 12 coups took place in Africa, and the AU suspended eight countries, showing the AU's "willingness to oppose unconstitutional changes of government", Vines added.
The AU still has a long way to go, but analysts point out few organisations made up of so many nations can easily find mutual agreement.
"It is an unrealistic expectation to want African countries to speak with one voice on all topics, it's impossible," said Paul-Simon Handy of the ISS.
"Look at the European Union," which has half as many members as the AU, he pointed out.
For the future, AU Commission chair Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma believes efforts must be focused towards development in Africa.
Development indicators on the continent -- including health, education, infant mortality,economic growth and democracy -- have improved steadily in the past 50 years.
"The big challenge for the future is going to be to manage expectations from Africa's rapidly growing urban population," Cilliers added.
Africa is home to some of the fastest growing economies in the world according to the IMF, and has attracted huge amounts of foreign investment in recent years.
But the bloc holds little day-to-day significance for most of its citizens.
"The AU is not relevant for the ordinary African... the AU is still a distant organisation where leaders meet and express their solidarity and sympathy with one another," Mehari said.
And while there has been some progress in supporting democracy, the rule of law and human rights, overall AU responses have been "mixed", Mehari added.
Celebrations on Saturday -- when African leaders will be joined by French President Francois Hollande, China's Vice Premier Wang Yang and US Secretary of State John Kerry -- will be followed by a two-day summit.
The agenda will likely include Madagascar -- in political deadlock since a 2009 coup -- and the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, where United Nations-backed government soldiers are struggling to quash rebels.
Mali is also expected to be discussed: it is preparing to receive a UN peacekeeping force to support French soldiers fighting Islamist rebels in the desert north since January.
Leaders will look at how to boost integration, a regular agenda item at the AU, although any practical implementation remains distant.
But this summit is about planning for the next 50 years rather than dwelling on the past, so to provide "a clear roadmap of where we should be going," Dlamini-Zuma said.


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Now, we're not the type to complain (unless our socks get wet or our mittens aren't right; then all bets are off). But, sad to say, things at Mom & Dad's Great Southeast Alaskan Bed & Breakfast have started slipping lately, in ways requiring more than a Band-Aid fix (speaking of which, Mom & Dad's now limits Band-Aid use to bleeding "owies" only; everything else is BYOB-A).
Acclaimed local author Stuart Archer Cohen wasn't referring to himself or writing when he described Juneau as an incubator of world-class talent — although with three novels (soon to be four) translated into more than 10 different languages, he very well could've been.
"Endless opportunity to practice here," said Cohen, who was in fact talking about snow sports. "Not this winter, but usually."
When it comes to government matters — especially at the state level — I'm not what you'd call "politically informed." I'm more like "politically-informed informed." I know I can inform myself about politics; I just usually skip right to the sports.
I've been living with the same woman for nearly 15 years now — more than 70 percent of my adult life — and if pressed to identify the key to our domestic bliss, I'd sum it up in one word: intercourse.
Ahem. VERBAL intercourse. Look it up. Intercourse: (noun) a connection or exchange of thoughts or feelings.
It's been a week and a half since marijuana legalization in Alaska, and so far no zombie apocalypse.
Not that we're out of the weeds yet. After all, pot zombies take notoriously long to motivate. Of course, even if they do eventually drag themselves off the couch, they're probably extra slow and super distractible. So unless you smell like fries or are a surviving member of the Grateful Dead, you should be fine.
This past Groundhog Day, Punxsutawney Phil predicted six more weeks of winter — for the Lower 48.
Up here, however, nary a marmot has weighed in with Alaska's Marmot Day prognostication. That's so like our Legislature, to declare an official Marmot Day but then not appoint an official marmot to carry out the one official Marmot Day duty that means anything. How are we supposed to decide whether or not to book last-minute ski trips to Colorado without prior approval of a state-sanctioned ground squirrel?
I'll admit it: I was expecting a play about Martin Luther King, Jr. — running to coincide not only with Martin Luther King Day, but also the 50th Anniversary of the Selma to Montgomery marches — to feel sort of like an after-school special or a live-action museum piece.
Just when I was beginning to think the world held no further surprises…
First, it turns out I actually like Radiohead. Go figure. Must have something to do with all the non-stop rain and dreariness.
More profoundly shocking, however, is earlier this week "Cosmopolitan" magazine ran an article with the following title: "10 Reasons Sleeping with a Husky Guy is the Best."
I know, right? When my wife forwarded it to me (imagine her own self-validation) I did a spit-take, too.
With the holidays behind us and more than a month to go before rekindling the festivities for President's Day (you should see the John Quincy Adams nativity scene I'm working on; Abigail looks great!), the start of the new year is a natural time for reflection, introspection and a renewed commitment to self-improvement.
You didn't move all the way from New York to Alaska to reconnect with Judaism.
And yet there you ar e —more Lower East Side than Great Northwest — seeking guidance from your rabbi on a spiritual matter: your daughter wants a Christmas tree.
Although she's been asking for several holiday seasons, she's old enough now to construct more compelling arguments. She's also enlisted her brother. And your wife.
Clever girl.
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Bioerosion of coral reefs by two Hawaiian parrotfishes: species, size differences and fishery implications
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Parrotfishes can be significant bioeroders and sediment producers on coral reefs. We quantified the bioerosion rates of two similarly sized Hawaiian parrotfishes with two different feeding modes (Scarus rubroviolaceus—a scraper and Chlorurus perspicillatus—an excavator). The results showed that feeding modes did not affect bioerosion rates but that bioerosion rates were size dependent, with largest individuals (S. rubroviolaceus 45–54 cm FL) bioeroding up to 380 ± 67 kg ind−1 year−1. The size for onset of bioerosion capabilities for both species was 15 cm. Grazing by the two species consumed 60% of the carbonate production of the fore reef area, suggesting that large parrotfishes in Hawaii are ecologically important bioeroders. As individual large S. rubroviolaceus contributed disproportionately more to bioerosion and sediment production than the equivalent biomass of smaller conspecifics, management strategies designed to retain normal reef bioerosion rates should seek to preserve the historical size structure of S. rubroviolaceus populations and to especially protect the larger size classes.
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- 10.1007/s00227-010-1411-y
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- 2. Hawaii Institute of Marine Biology, P.O. Box 1346, Kaneohe, HI, 96744, USA


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* Most embarrassing sports memory: I was getting ready to go into a (basketball) game a couple of years ago. When I pulled my shooting top off, all three of my shirts came off.
* Best player I have played against: Cameron Robinson from Ouachita in basketball.
* Favorite athlete: Dirk Nowitzki.
* Favorite teams: Buffalo Bills, Dallas Mavericks, Atlanta Braves.
* Sporting event I would most like to attend: An NFL game.
* Favorite class: Advanced Math with Ms. (Emily) Lara.
* Favorite musical artist: Tim McGraw.
* Favorite movie: 'Facing the Giants.'
* Favorite food: Tulamba pasta.
* Dream vacation destination: Alaska.
* If I could buy any vehicle I wanted, it would be: A 2014 Mustang.
* One possession I couldn't live without: My TV.
* Career ambition: To be a coach.
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When The Wapshot Chronicle was published in 1957, John Cheever was already recognized as a writer of superb short stories. But The Wapshot Chronicle, which won the 1958 National Book Award, established him as a major novelist.
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I got this recipe from a Kikkoman booklet. I made it for the first time around 1993 and it was so good I never tried another fried rice recipe ever since.
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- 59.14 ml green onion, chopped
- 78.07 ml red bell pepper, diced
- 59.14 ml green peas
- 1 egg, beaten
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- 29.58 ml soy sauce
- Cook bacon in wok until crisp.
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you people are short sighted idiots. Are you aware that the cost of education keeps people OUT of education? do you WANT an uneducated populace taking care of you and your children? Higher education is VIRTUALLY out of reach for millions of Americans (see Lanfear 1976's comment above -- and I understand your well-justified anger!), and the current and near-future economy simply does not provide jobs that allow people to work, pay bills, purchase homes and other items -- the things that run our capitalist engine. This ain't the 1950s, or the 1980s, folks. Without student loan forgiveness, we're looking at a labor future where everyone is living Lanfear1976's nightmare. Besides, student loan repayment is set up to take 20 years, which means 10 years of steady payments covers almost all of the principle -- forgiveness would cover a small portion of principle and the INTEREST (which is the profit that goes to Sallie Mae and Freddie Mac, and we all know how worthy THEY are. Or haven't you been paying attention?)
Student Loan Forgiveness Act Introduced in Congress
Yesterday Representative Hansen Clarke (D-MI) released HR4170, the Student Loan Forgiveness Act. The bill aims to stimulate the economy and protect those struggling with their student loan payments.
Clark announced, "It's time for Congress to stand for the rights of student loan borrowers. It's time to forgive these student loan debts."
The bill provides that if a student loan borrower makes payments equal to 10% of their discretionary income for a period of 10 yrs, the balance of their federal student loan debt will be forgiven.
you people are short sighted
Then again....I am a single
Then again....I am a single woman with no children. I don't QUALIFY for a government program of any sort. I just get to be homeless.
I can honestly see that the
I can honestly see that the taxpayers are getting the shaft (pardon the language) but I have a law degree that took me 160K to get. I spent the 2 years after law school taking care of my terminally ill mother full time, with NO help and living on her retirement and whatever I could make on the side, which wasn't much. I took full loans on the assumption I would have good earning capacity when I graduated. Do you know how many firms are taking on 1st year associates? If you didn't go Ivy legue, DARN FEW. I was responsible with my loan money, I took as little as I could had I known how bad the economy would get, I would have structured my education differently. Now the ONLY way I will EVER pay off my loan, and I would like to, is if I win the lottery. I have 270K to pay thanks to interest accrual and I have a job that pays 36K with no benefits. Would I rather pay it off myself, yes. But I cannot even make enough to cover the interest. I will be upside down on this loan for the rest of my life, I will never be able to purchase a house, and short of a miracle I will die still owing. I pay taxes too, and I don't like freebies. But I don't really know WHAT else to do. I could be homeless on the government's dime I suppose. That would be good for the taxpayers.
So, let me get this straight,
So, let me get this straight, a student takes out a loan, spends it on *whatever they want* and after 10 years of paying off 10% of their income, the rest is forgiven. These monies come from the government; our taxes pay these loans. I don't feel that the burden of paying for someone else's computer, car, cosmetic surgery, etc. should fall on the rest of the population. There are literally no restrictions on what student loans can be used to pay for, perhaps that should be a requirement before proposing a forgiveness. There are already stipulations in effect that do allow for student loan forgiveness, let's keep those in place and require stricter guidelines on what can be paid for with said student loans.
What kind of student loans
What kind of student loans were you talking about? I spent mine on rent, food, insurance, books, tuition, etc. They don't just HAND you blank checks you know. I can agree that stricter oversight might be warranted in terms of spending, but most people aren't blowing education funds on boob jobs. Sorry. As for existing loan forgiveness, only for an EXTREMELY limited segment of loans. I don't dismiss your concerns, I even agree with them. Why don't you tell me then how I pay my loans with the job market the way it is? I am honestly, and not sarcastically, curious.
Well Said!
Well Said!
Pay your bills. I didn't
Pay your bills. I didn't sign up for your loan. You did. Why didn't your parents raise you better?
My parents raised me quite
My parents raised me quite well. I got my undergraduate degree with NO debt, while living at home, caring for grandparents, working full time, paying for my own computer and car and pitched in on living expenses. When I couldn't afford tuition I worked full time. It was a very different economy. My parents had nothing to do with my student loans, as is true with MOST student debt currently. Most loans are being taken on by adult re-entry students who are trying to compete in the job market so they CAN pay their debts, and feed their kids, etc. It is a lovely knee jerk reaction you have there....try thinking it through objectively and with FACTS please.
Sounds like a lot of
Sounds like a lot of judgement, based on ignorance. Why didn't YOUR parents raise you better?? ;)
As a current graduate
As a current graduate student, I have dropped out midway through my program. Stafford Loans for Graduate Students have been taken away, as of the 2012/13 school year. We look forward to unsubsidized, 8.5% APR Grad-Plus Loans. I've got enough to pay off with the $100k education bill I'm stuck with...I don't want the burden of another $80,000.
The generations before us have been Takers. They have taken from the earth, toxifying our air, polluting our rivers, depleting our soil. They have taken from our Social Security to fund wars for corporate interest. Through incredulous CEO salaries, privatisation, and corporate lobbyists, they have taken from our economy by controlling the government. Jobless, Pennyless, Homeless, our once-great nation will be in our faltering economy as the multi-national corporations relocate in search of cheaper jobs, more available resources, and better tax laws.
Time for America to Wake Up! Our system is failing. Of, By, For the People? How is it then that we're all getting so screwed? Time to take our country back, and it's only going to happen with an educated population.
I support this bill, because I understand that our future depends on it.
How will the DI payment be
How will the DI payment be derived? Will the DI be a snapshot in time, and one pays that much for the next 10 years, or will it be reviewed annually/semi-annually/monthly...what?I like the idea...LORD knows I could use some assistance with my 20 yeare old student loans that are atgrowing at 9% per year! Remember folks, once you consolidate (for whatever reason you did), your stuck! Now THAT sucks!- - especially when rates are now at 2 - 3%.GB
Wrong. Students these says
Wrong. Students these says are often adults who cannot have their parents pay for their education. I am a 31 year old mom and college student who is racking up my own debt, and I am not alone. I see you are upset, but making a broad statement like that accomplishes nothing. Well, it shows that you are so angry that you cannot see past your own situation.
Another reason: Education
Another reason: Education recently changed computer systems. We were informed in letters in February that not all payments were posted yet, don't worry. Now in March the same numbers are accompanied by a threat of garnishment. We need to end people being found guilty on the grounds of Education mishandling data on a five-year rotation.
Smaller loans -- $10,000 --
Smaller loans -- $10,000 -- can be just as hard on a family as the larger ones. My son is having 15% taken out of his pay every week -- he is a pharmacy tech and is paid weekly at barely over the minimum wage. The $160 a month may not seem like a lot, but, at our house -- we don't have cable, we don't eat out much, usually only when we have a coupon, etc. It's all in the perspective. Why couldn't the law read -- when the loan has been paid for 10% of the total? When I see the money that is spent during election season, I get sick to my stomach. Do you know how many students could be educated for the amount of just one campaign?? How many children in the poorer sections of this country could go to college? We have our priorities in the wrong places. However, we do seem to be a source of humor when other countries look at how much a student has to pay for a simple4-year degree. We need to step back and ask what is most important to us -- and then do something about it.
I thought that parents taught
I thought that parents taught responsibility? We have mandatory universal childhood education in the United States -- why is making it easier to go to college an evil?
You people have no clue, or
You people have no clue, or you hate America & Jesus. Great, you did it all yourself. So happy for you. I worked through my 2 degrees too, but I was also raising 3 kids. Now I make a good income, & pay taxes, but I have this mountain of debt that will not allow me to get a mortage, a business loan, or have the buying power that drives our economy. Most students today are not kids, they're adults going back to retrain as the economy shifts gears. If you had paid attention in macro, you would know this is the best way for an economy to recover. Moreover, most developed countries provide free college education. They know thats an investment in their future prosperity, & quickens the pace of recovery. I guess you folks want to live in a country filled with stupid poor people. Why do you hate America?
If you were a real Christian, you would love thy neighbor as thyself (Mark 12:31) & want to help the least among us as if they were Jesus (Matthew 25:40). If Jesus needed help with his student loan debt, would you whine selfishly about how hard you worked? You know just as well as I do but for the grace of God your circumstance could have been very different. Repent your sin of pride, & know that to whom much is given, much will be required (Luke 12:48). Jesus told us to pay taxes (Mark 12:17) so quit your whining & do so with the knowledge you are helping our great nation recover its strength.
You who do not like this idea
You who do not like this idea should give the idea some more thought. Borrowers would have to pay 10% of their discretionary income for 10 years. If they have no income or can not pay 10% in one of those ten years, the loan, is not forgiven. The assumption is they will be able to pay anything at all. Online universities like Strayer take millions in federal loan money every year even though they know their (generally lower income) students have the highest default rate among all universities.
So the schools will simply
So the schools will simply not get paid the balance of the loans? So won't they just raise tuition to make up the difference? And doesn't that end up doing much more harm than good, since even fewer students will be able to afford the higher tuition?
What's wrong with being responsible, and paying what you agreed to pay?
Frankly, 10% over 10 years isn't barely even *trying* to pay off a loan, if you ask me...
No, poordumbpawn, the schools
No, poordumbpawn, the schools still get paid. Take some economics classes, or just google "loan forgiveness".
Mike, do you have ANY concept
Mike, do you have ANY concept what "forgive" means? That's a PC word for "you pay for my debts"! Why don't we give all our money to the government so they can give everything to everyone for free. Of course if that were the case, only stupid people would be working or starting businesses. Then the government would have to wave the magic wand and pull more funny money out of the hat.
It took me six years to get a four year degree SINCE I EARNED THE MONEY MYSELF TO PAY FOR COLLEGE. I worked in between studying. I took responsibility and incurred no debt instead of partying away on "free" money. Now I get to pay for someone else's debt? Does this sound reasonable?
I purchase a home that isn't stretching my budget beyond what I can afford. I make sure I have savings in case of emergency or loose my job. My house has lost value, but I still pay the mortgage every month. Can't let those morons that supposedly were dupped by the banks loose their homes, though. Why don't I pay for yours AND mine. Punish me for being responsible and exercising a little common sense! Does that sound reasonable?
I got my BA on my own to, and
I got my BA on my own to, and I am rightfully proud, as you should be. I took loans for my graduate degree and I was very responsible with those funds. I didn't party on "free" money, I worked my ASS off to get good grades and graduate. I would love to pay my loans myself...as soon as you tell me how when the only job I can get in the current economy, with a LAW DEGREE, only pays 36K with no benefits and I cannot make basic interest payments? I will be upside-down on my loan until I die. I save money, I don't spend, I don't have credit cards and without my family spending their hard earned money to help, I would be HOMELESS. I am not some irresponsible mooch. Please....judge me you sanctimonious man, AFTER you stand in MY shoes.
I worked and took out a loan
I worked and took out a loan to get my masters and paid it back. But things are different now. The rates of interest on student loans these days are completely usurious. It's very difficult to re-pay them, especially when you get out of school and enter a job market like this one.
Barack and Michelle Obama were still re-paying student loans until just about the time he got into the White House (the book sales may be what allowed them to repay them).
Our system of education needs an overhaul. In this economy it would be very difficult to find a job that could pay for school. And it doesn't make sense to have young people forced into a lifetime of debt in order to get an education.
Right on, Teddy. And those
Right on, Teddy. And those capital letters "EARNED THE MONEY MYSELF FOR COLLEGE" are rightfully proud.
And there are plenty of us responsible adults out here, rightfully ANGRY at all those others who never seem to have to pay the same dues we do...
My suggestion is that you
My suggestion is that you remember Maslow. These are very different times we live in today. The U.S. government helps many countries with our tax dollars; yet we are the only free country where student pay for a post-secondary education.
What is wrong with you, your comment and your thought process.... I pay for three people in my household to attend college; while on Social Security and I will owe until the day that I die. We are all medical student my medical malpractice insurance alone is $250,000 per year. I was responsible enough to raise three children alone, put them through school and on to college. The cost is $109,000 per year, earn and go to school today; bet you can not and maintain a 4.05 GPA.
In my field opinions only count when they are helping to save a life, and not beating one down. Oh and by the way the stipend that financial aid gives usually runs me about $1300.00 and the last I checked my PDR was $698; so no boobs for mama.
Some of us who would benefit
Some of us who would benefit from this bill DID pay those dues thanks. I was UNPAID primary care for 3 relatives (until they passed) for over 10 years while getting an undergraduate degree (with NO loans) and for 2 years after my graduate degree. Exactly HOW much more of a responsible adult do I need to be? I have no credit card debt, my car is 15 years old and paid for and I get NO assistance from the government. I STILL cannot pay the debt. Judge when you have STOOD where some of us are please....lest the "dumb" in your name be held as truth.
First of all - students do
First of all - students do not any longer get loans themselves. It is a "Parent Loan". Parents are mostly baby boomers who are reaching retirement, under employed or unemployed. The students have no jobs waiting for them or ones they are paid terribly for and can barely get by on. So parents- like me - are stuck paying or getting a lifetime of good credit ruined and like me, NEVER being able to retire. I have lost everything - my home, my retirement fund, my business and no one bailed me out like they did the banks!
btw, this comment was meant
btw, this comment was meant for you: Wrong. Students these says are often adults who cannot have their parents pay for their education. I am a 31 year old mom and college student who is racking up my own debt, and I am not alone. I see you are upset, but making a broad statement like that accomplishes nothing. Well, it shows that you are so angry that you cannot see past your own situation.
First off it doesn't teach
First off it doesn't teach responsibility. If you take out the debt you OWN the debt. If I had had a program in place like that I may have chosen a different degree like medicine. I would have taken me about 10 years to go through including the residency and I would have made sure to pay 10% during the residency period so that when I actually started to practice I would have had only a few years left to pay the nearly $250,000 I would have amassed in debt. Sounds like a winner for some, but maybe not the American public.
I agree with Mike. Why not
I agree with Mike. Why not just give them the money! Very few repay the debt anyway. This is the era of 'Of course I'm entitled'. No way are they accepting and no way are we teaching RESPONSIBILITY.
When did you get your degree?
When did you get your degree? Your graduate degree? Do you know what they COST now? What is your current education level and job? Can you GET any kind of a decent job without one? I take my responsibilities seriously, try looking objectively at facts and then talk. I won't deny that from the view of a taxpayer (which I am TOO), this bill SUCKS. But I will never be ABLE to pay my loans off short of winning the lottery. You find me a way to do it on my salary and I will. Smiling happily.
Good idea since a lot of
Good idea since a lot of economists are predicting the next crisis will be the huge debts these kids have and will more than likely not be able to repay.


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Y'know what, I'm sure I'm far from alone in saying that, even if the retrofit costs just as much as the rebuild, it's a better choice. With a retrofit, we won't:
Now, does this make me a retrofit supporter? No, I'm partial to the teardown or, if money were no object, the tunnel. But above all, for anyone who cares the slightest bit about public transportation or density or the environment, the onus should really be not so much on supporting a particular plan as on opposing the rebuild. Seattle's downtown waterfront deserves to be a destination, not just a place to be passed through.
Um, now ECB, this IS the same WSDOT whose methodology for counting AWV trips you just spent a whole column trying to impugn, right? Victor Grey was basically the lead highway engineer for the State of Washington for a long, long time - and I think he knows just how the bureaucratic numbers bullshit game is played, so I take his call for a truly independent review seriously.
That aside, let's also add the cost savings in hours lost to congestion because the AWV can remain open to traffic during a retrofit (govt. always likes to figure the cost of doing nothing into the equation when they support a project, so what good for the goose, etc). Eliminating 7-10 years of monumental congestion and traffic delays surely has some positive dollar value that can be assigned to it.
On the other hand, it is nice to see you finally owning up to supporting the PWC plan, Cressona. Can I have my apology now, or will it have to wait until you've unleased 10,000 words about how terribly I'm misrepresenting your position?
By the way, the downtown waterfront has been a tourist destination for a long, long time with the existing AWV in place, and you won't be able to get one inch closer to the waterfront if it's torn down than you can now (I say bring back the Washington Street Boat Landing - now THAT really let you get closer to the water).
Consider this line from the WSDOT statement condemning the retrofit: "We also would be left with a structure that has no shoulders and narrow lanes."
We keep hearing this mandate that any solution has to preserve capacity, and it has to preserve vehicle capacity, but when you get right down to it, the rebuild means expanding capacity. When you make the structure 50% wider to accommodate wider lanes and shoulders, well, that's what you get.
WSDOT has built this house of cards of assumptions, one on top of the other, which piles up to what they hope is an inevitable conclusion: the taxpayers of Washington need to spend billions of dollars for a new and expanded highway for a route that, as of now, is of secondary regional significance. It's a wonder they haven't found a link between earthquakes and al Quaeda.
Wouldn't a monorail have been a wiser use of funds?
Yes, Will.
Mr. X: On the other hand, it is nice to see you finally owning up to supporting the PWC plan, Cressona. Can I have my apology now, or will it have to wait until you've unleased 10,000 words about how terribly I'm misrepresenting your position?
Truth is, I've vacillated from being more of a PWC supporter to being more of a tunnel supporter (and fearing that the PWC option would have a Ralph Nader effect) to being maybe now a little more of a PWC supporter. To carry on with the presidential election analogy, it's a bit like choosing between Democratic candidates in the primaries to face George W. Bush in the general election. Compared to Bush, any Democratic candidate looks like the second coming of Abe Lincoln, and the choice becomes not just who's best but who might have the best chance of beating Bush. For me, a new, expanded viaduct really is the Bush here -- the one unmitigated disaster to be avoided at all costs. That's why I'm even willing to talk nice about the retrofit of all things -- at least in comparison.
Oh, now, we all realize the tunnel folks have been praising the Surface Plus Transit as they figure that one won't get public support and it will help them kill off the Viaduct rebuild ...
Interesting if we actually get a public vote or get the other viable choice (besides the elevated modern rebuild) of Surface Plus Transit, though.
I think the waterfront is a destination now, although I agree it would be better without the double decker.
I'm not in favor of a rebuild at all. That to me is throwing money away and delaying the resolution of the problem.
I'm in favor of the tunnel first, but recognize it's expensive. I have to say that in a contest between a rebuild and the teardown, I guess I'd go for the teardown if there was corollary money put in for proper rapid transit.
Somehow other governments are able to build transportation infrastructure and protect the environment. Look at the new Swiss tunnels going in for rail- they're being built (and are very expensive) to deal with transport problems. One of the requirements of the project was that it had to be built to a 100 year standard. This was done in part because it is a very expensive thing to do. Some thinking outside the box with regards to funding needs to occur, no matter what the project. We have too many transportation needs that have been put off and will effect the region for years to come. I don't have any problems having us and those in the future pay fairly for those transport improvements that those in the future will derive benefit from.
I don't think it is set in stone that the Seattle waterfront where the viaduct is located has to be this "showpiece". This is a working city, with a working port and so on. There are many beautiful things in the city and the state, and I'd rather see commerce and people be able to move than a big park the utilization of which is subject to debate. If we can do both, then so much the better.
The part of the waterfront along the viaduct is not really the "port." It's some badish restaurants, ferry terminals, and some depressing tourist attractions.
Oh, and that streetcar to nowhere.
Do you truly believe what WSDOT says?
Or do you only believe when it is convenient to further your own program?
OK, so in other words, you were full of shit when you accused me of all kinds of horrible misrepresentations of your position when I said you supported tearing down the AWV without replacing it.
Glad we've cleared that up.
I'd agree about the badish restaurants Dan, but I'd say that Colman Dock and most everything south of there is a part of the working port.
Stopped clocks, David S.
By the way, to anticipate Cressona backpedaling - I offer you this blast from the (recent) past when he responded to my calling him a 15-percenter who is out of touch with most of Seattle's residents...
"It's funny though that you should identify me with the option that polled the worst, the PWC option, rather than the tunnel, which didn't do so wonderfully either but still did better than 15%."
In the Draft EIS WSDOT said a surface highway would cost $2.8 billion. And that's before they jacked up the cost estimates for the other options.
The WSDOT surface highway is the surface option we'd actually get. Let me guess: WSDOT's claims and cost estimates in this case are not to be trusted, right?
Note that this was basically the same justification for the almost total rebuild of the Opera House at Seattle Center. I don't recall the exact figures, but they were going to HAVE to do something to meet modern earthquake-standards, and it was going to cost something like @$80 mil? to retrofit and @$100 mil? to rebuild.
I'm fascinated that people keep ignoring/forgetting that no matter what option is selected, they HAVE to replace the old rotting seawall as part of the deal. If its a tunnel, the west wall becomes the (expensive) new seawall.
As someone who drives the viaduct several times a week, I'm terrified of the thought of the route disappearing for X years while its replaced. Anyone who lives in the north-end and needs to get south knows how incredibly nasty I-5 gets; it now backs up for miles even on weekends. The viaduct is a frequent lifesaver.
I was born in 1950 and have visited/lived in Seattle most of my life. What most people don't realize is that at the time the viaduct was built in the early 1950s, the working-waterfront / 1st Avenue area was a nasty, unpleasant, potentially dangerous place with a VERY bad reputation; there was nothing hip, fun, or edgy about being around there. I can't think of a good contemporary comparison; perhaps a fun-filled evening of shopping and dining in downtown White Center??
Sign me -
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Adding onto 'what is the working port?' @ 12:
I think the port is a huge consideration in regards to the AWV question. So, just as a little snapshot, savor with me, if you will forbear it, a quick jog along Seattle's impressively packed, full-scale "Working Port":
The Working Port starts ramping up from South Park and merges with West Seattle's Harbor Way segment at Harbor Island. From here northward, the sort of stereotypical Port with the big boats, big cranes, and infinite containers ends more or less at Lander.
But then north of that, you have massive POS-associated trucking as well as the intersection with associated heavy rail. North of that, you have the Coast Guard. North of that, you have the Ferries. North of that, you have the Fireboats. North of that, you have the Argosies and such. North of that, you have the northern Cruise Ship terminal. North of that you have The Clipper.
The businesses along the west side of Alaskan Way are, to me, an improbably miraculous frontage for this "Downtown Waterfront" strip of the public-use part of the working port.
Then you get to Myrtle Edwards Park. Head north. The working port picks right back up at the grain elevators on Interbay and then, again, on the South side of Magnolia. And even then, it continues from Fisherman's Terminal all the way along the Ballard Waterway out to the Locks.
Pretty huge. So, the port is gonna factor into what happens with the AVW. No two ways (hehe) around it.
Tear that schitt down.
The bottom line is that we can now flatly eliminate the retrofit as an option. David Sucher of course will say the WSDOT is lying, but with nothing to substantiate that claim.
For an earthquake of serious severity likely to have a one in 10 chance of occurring in the next 50 years,
Hey Erica, what is "serious severity" in this case? How likely is is it that something "likely to have a one in ten chance if ocurring in the next 50 years" will happen in the next 50 years, anyway?
It might be 50% likely that these statistics could seriously be a joke. Are you likely to be listening to what these people may or may not be saying? They're not talking about an "N-year earthquake" (an earthquake of the magnitude that we have observed to occur on average once every "N" years); they're saying "an earthquake that we consider serious *might have* some chance of ocurring once in the next 50 years (i.e., we cannot say that it has no chance of ocurring in the next 50 years)... might have a 5 percent chance... or 38... or 15.9"
Call bullshit, dammit!
Cressona--I feel your pain. When faced with the utter stupidity of the rebuild, the retrofit looks smarter because at leas t that ugly hulk won't be around long.
Of course the retrofit is possible. And no doubt it will be expensive no matter what David S. wants to assert. The existing viaduct is a decaying roadway built to last fifty years with half the traffic and minimal earthquake standards. It is a miracle that it still stands.
So you spend billions and what do you get? An unsafe, narrow, decayed viaduct with the best baling wire money can buy.
No, tear the sucker down. But give Seattle a tunnel. Even if the Capitol Hill crowd says screw West Seattle and Ballard you still have to deal with freight. And freight don't take the bus. Each day on my viaduct death ride I look around and the mix of cars to delivery trucks, cement trucks, semis, repair trucks, etc. is close to 50-50.
Erica C. Barnett: Backers of a retrofit have long described their preferred viaduct solution as the sensible, money-saving option. It'll be pretty hard for them to claim that now.
I know Erica isn't one of the bad guys here, but wow, reading her is good for a laugh sometimes if only because she seems to be absolutely impervious to irony.
Erica has been the first to report why any conclusions coming from WSDOT should be treated with the kind of skepticism you'd have for Cheney or Rumsfeld. Just start with the inflated numbers for just how much traffic the viaduct carries. Erica reported that. Now she turns around and gullibly swallows whatever dubious cost estimates WSDOT throws out on the retrofit if only because the retrofit ain't her baby.
Of course, if you really want a laugh, read whatever comes from that Ron Paananen dude at WSDOT. Here's a good line: "What this shows is we've appropriately screened (the repair option) out and are narrowing down the alternatives, and basically, we're down to a new elevated structure or a tunnel." Gosh Ron, thanks so much for narrowing things down for us. And thanks for doing it "appropriately." But hey, if the civilian leaders at the Pentagon can make important decisions for the United States, WSDOT might as well make important decisions for the state of Washington.
Cressona's likening of the tissue of lies around the Iraq War and the way the Viaduct has been analyzed is very apt.
Start with your conclusion and then work backwards, finding appropriate 'facts' as needed.
Has Erica ever questioned the cost estimates from WADOT? That would be the only apt criticism in this instance.
If WADOT favors the tunnel option why did they increase the tunnel cost estimate so much more than the rebuild estimate? After all, they are just make this shit up, right? Something doesn't add up.
Adding to Lloyd's post @ 17
It is about 1.3 miles from where the Viaduct rises from ground level at its south end to the Washington State Ferry Terminal (for this segment - it runs between 4 or 5 BNSF train tracks that aren't going anywhere and Port properties that pretty much all entail heavy waterfront industrial uses)
The segment between the WSF Terminal and the Waterfront Landings Condos is about .5 mile.
The segment where it jogs east (away from our "precious Downtown waterfront") from the Waterfront Landings Condos and proceeds to the Battery Street Tunnel is about .3 mile.
To sum up - total length of AWV where it begins to be elevated to the BST - 2.1 miles. Amount of that that runs along exclusively industrial property/freight train right-of-way 1.3 miles. Amount that actually parallels a part of the waterfront people use .5 mile. Amount that runs by the Pike Place Market and to the north .3 mile.
Likelihood that Dan Savage will retract a factual misstatement because it will undermine the Stranger's anti-Viaduct Jihad - 1% (on a good day)
Re #8: I actually DON'T think it'd be better without the viaduct. I can walk under the viaduct when I'm visiting the waterfront. If the surface option goes through I'll have to walk across a busy highway to get there.
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