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DENVER � Democrats struck down a Republican proposal to arm teachers with concealed guns Monday.
It was the first Republican attempt to respond to mass shootings in Aurora and an elementary school in Connecticut, and the first of many rounds of fights over gun control this year.
Monday�s debate points to a culture clash at the Capitol that will make it difficult to achieve consensus as the Legislature tackles gun control for the first time since the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.
One side says the country has too many guns, while the other side says there are not enough.
Sen. Ted Harvey, R-Highlands Ranch, said gun-free zones at schools don�t work, and teachers should be armed if they want to be.
�Gun-free zones only work for those that are law-abiding citizens,� Harvey said. �The criminals, the bad guys, they don�t care. But they do know that the good guys don�t have guns.�
Harvey has school-age kids, and his wife is a teacher.
�My wife and my kids are sitting ducks,� he said.
Harvey�s Senate Bill 9 would have let school boards allow teachers to carry concealed weapons. It failed on a 3-2 vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Most of the two dozen witnesses testified in favor of arming teachers, but several opponents said guns don�t increase safety.
Jean Grattet of the League of Women Voters said the United States has almost nine guns for every 10 people.
�This bill is based on the premise that more guns make us safe,� Grattet said. �You would think we would be the safest nation in the world, but we aren�t.�
That irked Sen. Kevin Lundberg, R-Berthoud.
�What do you want them to do, run and hide? Honestly, is this really the logic we�re going to apply?� Lundberg said. �Are you really meaning to say that citizens should not be trusted with weapons for defense, and we should be left with ballpoint pens and running and hiding?�
The hearing became testy when Sen. Scott Renfroe, R-Greeley, challenged a critic of his bill, Sen. Jessie Ulibarri, D-Commerce City.
�I don�t know that you�ve even held a gun, senator, have you?� Renfroe said.
Ulibarri said he grew up with guns.
�Our guns were under lock and key in my dad�s room. I understand the power you wield and, if it�s done badly, the consequences,� he said.
Meanwhile, Democrats sent conflicting signals Monday about when they will unveil their gun-control package.
Rep. Rhonda Fields, D-Aurora, said Sunday she was days away from introducing bills to ban high-capacity magazines and require background checks for private-party gun sales. Her district includes the Aurora theater where a gunman killed 12 people and injured around 70 last July.
But Senate President John Morse, a former police chief from El Paso County, said he wants to delay introduction of his party�s gun bills for a few weeks.
Morse said Monday he�s looking for a comprehensive package on gun violence and not piecemeal reforms.
�Obviously, the person with the most knowledge and experience and expertise in this area is me, and so I�m trying to figure out what can we do that would actually have an impact. How do we piece all of that together? And I�m just not there yet,� Morse said.
But Morse said he�s committed to finding a solution this year.
�There�s not a magical solution. This is really hard,� he said.


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Hopefully this does help our chances for tonights game.
Jordan should step up with his game.
I think this is a must win to keep the series on track.
A good emphasis on high energy D should set the right tone.
We need Blake to be his Beastly self! DJ also must rage!
This game is the series, IMO. If Blake doesn't show up and play like a superstar, the team might as well start reserving their tee times at the golf course now.
It's weird but the a good barometer for how the game is going to go is Djs intensity the first few possessions. If he is hype it seems to affect the team in a positive way. When he is lollygaggin the
whole teams energy seems to lollygag. I see this as another blowout for the clippers.
I don't see Durant and westbrick going off again
I want to see how long before a troll hits this thread
It call comes down to foul trouble. If our big 3 can stay out of receiving early fouls then that gives them more room to be aggressive especially BG and DJ. CP is aggressive with or without foul trouble but for this game we'll need him for 38-40 minutes
The only problem is that's up to the refs. As we have seen the refs can call bullshit fouls
all they want and get no consequences for using their power to affect the game.
We need the bigs aggressive and Blake attacking. This game will be determined by if Blake shows energy on both ends.
Blake better pull his head out his ass and stop playing so timid. CP needs to stay aggressive, and not get in foul trouble as our offense falls apart when he's not in. Hopefully Doc emphasized rebounding as well, since we're getting destroyed on the glass.
Clippers by 10
Let's see Blake and DJ take advantage of this home court. They need to step up and be the dominant duo that was evident in Game 1's blowout.
Clippers for the WIN!
Let's go Clippers! We fought hard for Home Court advantage, let's fight just as hard to keep it.
I want to see our best effort from all our players.
I almost want to try Willie on Westbrook when CP3 needs rest... RW destroying Collison was a huge reason we lost game 2, DC was a -11, he was helpless... Gotta fix that & our bigs have to show up.
I would play Collison less minutes. He really isn't that useful when he is on the court especially if he is guarding Westbrook. We need to put a wing on him.
Clippers -4 tonight. The very important 3rd game winner gives them a very high historical probability of winning the series. Go Clipps.
Man if we only had that guy we traded to Pheonix for JarFart Dudslaid
'IF' we can get these 2 home games we will certainly show we are good enough to close out the series
as soon as Westbrook sees its Collison guarding him he just attacks
Hi guys just had shoulder surgery today (Kerlan and associates Md.) my doctor said cuz I was wearing my clipper ,shirt after the surgery he came up to me and we talked bout the clippers!! He stated that he did Danny manning a knee surgery cuz manning refused to see the clippers Md., Blake is going for 30 and 10 !! Now clippers use kerlan and assoc. only go clipper I can't wait to watch it
Yep he just posted him up and scored easily on consecutive possessions. It was real ugly.
Might sound crazy, but the way WB was playing and just posting up and dominating Collison, id consider bringing Dudley in at the 2 when Redick sits or even Granger. Either of them can potentially play the 2. We need weight and length to stop Westbrook.
Doc will make adjustments. I am not too worried.
Yes he will. Blake will show up tonight as well. We are winning this game. Better teams always prevail and we are it. No KD needed. We have a CP3 and a BG
I should be a damn coach... I have been saying the same thing these entire playoffs
Break Out Game!?!?
Doc must have seen something... I like the confidence he has in his presser
Doc must have seen something... I like the confidence he has in his presser
Doc want's to outscore the OKC, he believed it is the best way to beat them..
Is this a joke? Or are you being serious?
Huge Game 3 on the line. Must-win game but I am confident in Blake and Staples and CP, etc. to pull this game out for us. Go Clips!!
Crawford is going to play well tonight. He's going to make up for his bad shooting night in game 3. When JJ and Jamal are both on fire no one can beat us.
Dudley on westbrick would be one of the biggest disasters of the 21st century
CP3's first foul was ridiculous. Westbrook ran into the ref, but CP got the foul for just being in the area? I expect some good make up calls tonight.
. Great weight watcher Dudley can't cover Westbrook hell big baby is quicker !! Lol I feel good luck on this gm !! Hello I had Danny manning surgeon on my shoulder surgery and I'm up ready to watch this gm !! Statement gm for the clippers !! Winner by 20+
I just got some new Clipper gear. They better win tonight. I'm very superstitious with my Clipper clothes lol. It has absolutely no effect on the game, but it's fun always to believe.
Hell yes brother !!
Break Out Game!?!?
Hopefully that means he's made adjustments to make things easier on Blake, as well as finally telling him to mix it up with his face-up game instead of trying to back down his man every time.
does anyone know of any website where i can listen to ralph lawler and mike smith? i tried the kfwb website but it doesn't work for me for some reason.
Get it done, Clips!
Uhh i believe you can listen to home and away radio on the NBA gametime app
So let's be honest. Did anyone actually predict two blow outs in the first two games? I thought these games would be much closer. With that said, let's keep this trend going and embarrass OKC tonight. I hope Staples Center goes crazy tonight. I can't see there being as OKC fans as there were GSW.
I bet some of the Lakers "fans" who wore Curry jerseys last series will show up at Staples in their brand new Durant jerseys.
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Oh okay, the thumb, yea I remember that, I was thinking you meant something more debilitating like his hip situation the year before and I couldn't remember anything. He certainly had a very nice game 6 despite that injury no turnovers, 69% FG, 28 pts.
I think the thumb is one that of the Clippers don't loose he could have kept playing without ill effects in future games. Blake for example though, I'm not sure about that one. Really hoping for no significant injuries these playoffs.
I think Doc could have gotten the team past Memphis just because his defensive system would have been there the whole year, so even with Blake being injured for game 5 and 6, the team would be able to pull off 2-3 record against Memphis over the last 5 games after going up 2-0 (assuming hey still go up 2-0, maybe they even win in 5).
Remember the true Achilles heel in the series was atrocious defense. Adjustments like starting Bledsoe, Barnes over Butler would have helped, but mainly a more consistent and reliable defensive system that would have been in place all year would not have put the Clippers in a position where they had to score better than 1.19 pts/possession to beat Memphis. Clippers played defense in that series that put them in position to have to be 10 pts/100 possessions better than their regular season average over 4 games to beat Memphis, it just didn't make sense. There was no realistic way the offense could have beat Memphis on it's own because the Clippers defense made the requirement for offensive production too high to reasonably expect to attain unless Memphis decided to not play defense. You need to balance it out with defense, and really they just needed to play defense as well as the average defensive team did against Memphis in the regular season in order to win, but they played it worse than the worst defensive team would against Memphis.
Look at Memphis' offense in their wins:
104 pts, 120.2 Ortg.
103 pts, 118.2 Ortg.
118 pts, 127.7 Ortg
Even game 6 where the Clippers scored 105 pts and had a 113.6 Ortg, they played such bad defense that they still couldn't win. This season, the Clippers are the #1 most efficient offense in the league and have a 111.9 Ortg. Memphis a below average offense last year were far more efficient than that in 3/4 wins vs the Clippers last playoff than they Clippers are against an average team. That's crazy! The other game they were almost as efficient as the Clippers are against the average team.
So even with the teams second best player last year and secondary scorer out, if there was any semblance of defense, Clippers still had a good chance to win against Memphis, win against OKC and then of course get crushed by the Spurs, lol
Read my post again. Doc HAD to give his permission for the mutual termination of his contract with the Celtics. He did so, knowing the Clippers fully intended to trade DJ for Garnett. He and Ainge agreed to tear up his contract in exchange for "compensation" from the Clippers because Doc's talents were considered an asset by both sides.
Ainge couldn't fire him without paying him. Doc couldn't leave without risking Ainge prohibiting him from coaching anywhere else. The Clippers couldn't even speak to Doc without Ainge's blessing. They came to an "everybody wins" agreement where we got Doc, Doc got to go where he wanted and Ainge got a draft pick. All this happened while they were putting together a deal of DJ for Garnett.
The league thought it was fishy because they felt that DJ represented the kind of compensation for a coach that isn't allowed, ie: a player, so they told both teams "no player trades with each other" this season. The only reason DJ is still in a Clippers uniform is David Stern.
Now you can call that an assumption if you like, but it's the same assumption everybody surrounding the NBA holds. Since you haven't presented any evidence whatsoever that Doc wouldn't have come unless DJ stayed, I'll stick with the old scientific mantra of Ockham's razor: "All things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the right one."
You must have real long arms cause you're reaching.
Sorry, I could lend you that crystal ball but , without the instructions, it'll go wasted on you.
LMAO, what does it only work off assumptions? I guess if that's the case it might not do me any good, but I could always ask for your help.
A crystal ball off assumptions? Nope, that wouldn't make it a crystal ball now, Would it?
here ya go:
My guess is that CP and Blake were his primary motivation, but I'm going off what he said. I never implied that Doc would pull out of the deal for something like that, just pointing out that he didn't pull out when the deal didn't go through. Let's be real the important pieces are CP and Blake. He could have had preferences, he might have preferred to keep Bledsoe but felt it was better appease CP. That would go away from what you are saying, but the possibilities are endless.
The world was also flat at one point, so the simplest thing to get from that is you might fall off if you go too far.
@Clipper*Joe, it seemed to be working for you guys. Since assumptions and opinions is all you brought to the table.
Before you give it to me, maybe you should ask it for something more than that. Or we could finish the debate and you could ask it if we are a better team now and it will tell you the same thing that the majority of us have been saying: that yes we are better team now with Doc.
So Cleepers, the poll is running 90% against your view. Are we all just Doc lovers/ Vinny haters, or you think maybe we're seeing something you don't?
The world was never actually flat. It was just a simpler concept for simpler minds to grasp. Proving it was round required evidence that couldn't be gathered at the time. Kind of like how Joe and I are being asked to provide evidence - like a quote from Doc saying that he was fine with trading a player away from a team he wasn't even employed by yet - that just isn't available.
What's my view?
The poll asks whether Doc is a little better, a lot better or no better than Vinny. I've already stated that I think he's better. How much better, we'll see in the playoffs.
Being a "Doc lover" or a "Vinny lover" are not mutually exclusive. Are we not allowed to like them both? Sorry, I didn't realize that was against the rules.
My whole debate has been about Vinny not being as terrible as he is painted by many members, and that if he was the only impediment to us reaching the WCF for the last 2 years, then this year should be a cakewalk.
And for the record, an unscientific poll that goes against my beliefs on any subject is not going to change my mind. There was a time that a plurality of Americans believed slavery was morally acceptable. I wonder, would you have followed that majority like a little sheep, too?
You brought up Ockham's razor, and now are the bright mind going against it, LMAO. You two are really good for a laugh.
The argument is that we are a better team with Doc, you two said not until it's proven in the playoffs. I don't think we have to wait for anything, it's clear that we are a better team right now. A byproduct of that is us doing better in the playoffs, in probably the deepest conference in years.
I said "as of right now"... are we western conference finalists yet? I must have missed that.
I've stated numerous times that Doc is the clear upgrade that Joe and I advocated waiting for. But the team hasn't achieved the results yet that Vinny was vilified for being unable to deliver. Vinny's playoff achievements with the Clippers (and lack thereof) are in the books already. Doc's are not... yet. Get it?
And you might want to look up Ockham's razor. I don't think you've quite grasped the concept yet.
Really? Oh, that sounds like something different.
You two are basing your arguments off assumptions, and I'm the one that hasn't grasped Ocham's razor. It would tend to be that the majority would go with the simplest answer yet you two are the only ones backing Vinny saying he was on par with Doc up to this point.
david wrote:
Doc Rivers is a way better coach than Vinny Del Negro.
Cleepers wrote:
That sounds very definitive.
What's your basis? Was Phil Jackson way better than Jerry Sloan and Gregg Popovich? ...or did he just have the best player(s) on the planet to work with?
Most people say Sloan would have a couple of rings if it hadn't been for Jordan. Others say that Pop's Spurs would have absolutely dominated the 2000's but for Kobe and Shaq.
Vinny took Doc's (AND Thibs') HOF championship roster to 7 close games with a rookie as his best player. He led the Clippers to their best B2B seasons in franchise history. The man deserves all Clippers fans' respect and gratitude.
Sorry, us doing better in the playoffs isn't a by-product. How is it a by-product when we haven't even played a playoff game? ASSumptions?
Ockham's razor is not a poll, where we all just guess and the majority opinion becomes fact. It is literally ALL ABOUT reasonable assumptions. If there are multiple theories on the cause of an event, but no empirical evidence, assume the simplest explanation is the correct one. To me, the fact that we lost in a 4/5 matchup against a tough team with an identical record with players injured and an average coach is a much more reasonable assumption than our being some superteam who just happened to have the worst coach in NBA history screwing the pooch at every single turn despite the players doing everything right and their injuries being a non-factor.
We have empirical evidence that Vinny's W/L% with the Clippers was 68% last year and that Doc's is 71% at this point, so Joe is right that the numbers indicate that so far, he is marginally better in terms of results. We will have further evidence during and after the playoffs which can then be examined, and coaching performances analyzed and graded accordingly.
Right now, you "think" that Doc will be a better playoff coach for this team than Vinny was. I AGREE WITH YOU! The debate is how MUCH better. You haven't quantified a number, but whether it's 1%, 100% or 1000% it doesn't matter what you or I "think", "hope", "believe" or wish upon a f**king star - if it doesn't happen!
Nobody is backing Vinny as being better than or equal to Doc. Can't you grasp that?
If a man - Let's call him "Doc" - has $250,000,000 in the bank, I think it's safe to assume we all agree he is rich. The debate here is "how much money did Vinny have, relative to Doc?". Well right now, those numbers suggest that he had 3% less. Vinny-haters have always insisted he was "broke". THAT is where my opinion diverges from theirs... and apparently, yours.
With a larger sample-size, trends and evidence become more pronounced... We were 0-1 to start the season, but reasonable people assumed that we wouldn't finish 0-82. We are certain the sun will rise tomorrow because it has every single day for billions of years. Flip a coin 3 times and you may get all "tails", but it becomes unlikelier the more times you flip and eventually it becomes obvious that the chances are 50/50.
The playoffs will help broaden Doc's sample. If the team can't do any better than they did for the last 2 years, the numbers will indicate that maybe Vinny wasn't broke after all. He was actually pretty rich. Maybe still not as rich as Doc, but rich nonetheless.
Just because I like chocolate Ice-cream, it doesn't mean I hate all the other flavors. It doesn't even mean that chocolate is my favorite flavor. You don't have to cut off Vinny's legs to make Doc look taller. It doesn't change Doc's height! And putting Doc on a pedestal doesn't make Vinny shorter. He took us from being a lottery team to a division championship. Now, I hope Doc can take us to an NBA championship, because that's what he was brought here to do. I don't know why you can't just be happy with how far we've come in such a short time instead of ungratefully badmouthing the guy who drove us halfway here. Vinny helped put us in the position to even GET Doc, because there's no way a top tier coach was coming here when Vinny signed on.
You'll never convince me that he doesn't deserve to be remembered well by Clipper-nation.
EDIT: Thank you for reposting my exchange with David. It illustrates my point perfectly. Nowhere do I have a bad word to say about Doc, just that Vinny's inferior roster gave Doc & Thibs' championship team all they could handle. Now, how would you explain that if Vinny is so, so bad? Because Ockham's razor would lead me to believe that the simplest explanation is that that young Bulls team played hard and had a pretty decent coach.
We can go back and forth on this all you want. I think Doc is a much better coach then Vinny. I think we peaked as far as what we could do with Vinny at the helm. Ockham's Razor- in layman's terms is the simplest answer is usually the correct one. The majority tends to lean that way as well. There are only two of you going against this.
Who has said Vinny was the worst NBA coach ever? I've said that he couldn't help us get over the hump, that we had peaked last season.
My honest opinion of Vinny as a coach is he is average to slightly below average as a NBA coach, he would be better in the front office in my opinion. That doesn't take away from what his team accomplished while he was the coach, and nor would I want it too. That doesn't meant there aren't some coaches that are worse, but there are clearly some I think are much better Doc being one of them.
^ We'll never know if we peaked under Vinny last season, so your opinion will always remain no more than an opinion... no more or less valid than anybody else's.
And no, Ockham's razor is not "majority rule". The little actual EVIDENCE we have suggests that Doc is marginally better in terms of results. There is NO measurable evidence that points to him being "much better", "way better", or "light years ahead"... only opinion. I'll wait for the rest of the evidence to come in before I trash innocent people.
If you change one component in an experiment and your results are 3% better, the "simplest explanation" - according to Ockham's razor - is that that one component is 3% more effective. But like I said, the sample-size is relatively small at this point. With more repetitions of the experiment (ie: playoffs, additional seasons) the results have more validity.
A scientific mind will trust measured results over guesswork every time. When there are actual numbers to compare, the words "I think" would get you laughed out of every laboratory on the planet.
I guess we're done here until Doc goes 16-0 in the playoffs, demonstrating beyond doubt that Vinny was the only thing holding us back these last two years.
Honestly I have only seen Clippers fan say that VDN is anything more than an average coach. Most people don't even consider him average.
Doc is an elite coach and VDN is an average coach in my eyes. Now what could possibly be up for debate is how much good coaching can influence games.
Ultimately, talent trumps all. Even a team like the Thunder which has a mediocre coach will do great simply because it has the best player in the league(this season, not saying he is better than Lebron yet) and an elite PG.
Not to mention elite defenders like Ibaka, Sef, etc.
^ I agree. The 5 guys on the court affect the outcome more than any coach ever will.
Generally having a great coach will only give you a few more wins. The only exceptions in my mind are maybe the Spurs with Pop and the Bulls with Thibs.
@Cleepers, try reading my posts completely.
What I said: "Ockham's Razor- in layman's terms is the simplest answer is usually the correct one. The majority tends to lean that way". Are you a scientific mind trying to apply this to basketball?
Last time I checked we are talking about basketball and what I've seen on the court is better than what I saw last year; and the main difference is Doc. If you talked to any basketball analyst or the majority of NBA players they would probably laugh at you when you walk into the room and insinuate that Doc is only marginally better then Vinny.
So if we win the title are you coming back in here to use your exit route and say that's what we had in mind the whole time in waiting for Doc. I've noticed you kept that open. Nothing like not really sticking to anything, leaving an exit clause. So if we win a title and this comes up again, are you going to say Vinny could have done it?
The real question if the season where to end today are we a better team today in a large part due to Doc? I say yes and it's noticeable, you from what I can gather are saying no. Yet, great organizations like the Spurs, Heat, Championship Lakers and/or Bulls weren't that worried about the overall records; but playing good basketball going into the playoffs.
^ All I know for a fact is that the Clippers have improved every year, no matter which of them has been coaching... from 39% W/L, to 60%, to 68%, to 70%... so I'm happy.
That leads me to two conclusions:
That who is coaching has a smaller effect on the outcome of games over the long term than some here believe.
That Vinny del Negro wasn't AS inferior to Doc Rivers as his haters like to believe.
Results are what count. You can coo all you like about Doc's system, but if it yields the same results as the "Chris Paul" offense, then how is it really better aside from simple aesthetics?
Winning matters. Ask all the players with superior stats who missed out on MVP's and All-star appearances to other guys whose teams had better records. Attractive play is no guarantee of success. There will be no asterisk in the record books that says *but the Clippers "LOOKED" much prettier than the previous year. Until we actually get to the WCF, we are not a WCF team.
I enjoy watching Miami basketball much more than Pacers basketball, but only one of their systems will prevail this year. I prefer watching this year's Suns to this year's Grizzlies, but it seems like only one of them will make the playoffs. Whichever team prevails will be remembered in history as the better team. Miami are the reigning champions, regardless of how many people may have believed that the Spurs were better. Opinion doesn't count for sh!t in sports. Bragging rights go to the winners.
Many non-Clippers fans still call us a second-round out and it pisses me off, but if we lose in the second round, then they are right and I am wrong. It's that simple.
I think Doc is an upgrade. I've said it time and again. But just because I defend Vinny, people moronically assume that I'm attacking Doc. That's not the case. I'm actually preemptively defending Doc, too! Doc can't put the ball in the hoop for the players. Doc can't run out and block a shot or get a steal, and despite his name he can't make our players' injuries disappear... and neither could Vinny.
I'm just not convinced that an upgrade at the H/C position (which I consider less influential to the outcome of games and series' than playing positions) - or the magnitude of the upgrade - will make as huge a difference to the actual results as some people think. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but the evidence isn't in yet.
I just believe that there are many more larger factors in play... quality of players, roster-fit, performance of players, individual and team matchups, injuries... I could go on and on. As much as some Vinny-haters would have me believe that basketball is a chess game where both coaches start out exactly even, and the better mind wins... it just isn't so. And because of all of those other factors, I believe that anybody claiming that Vinny del Negro "held us back" from reaching the Western conference finals has a naive and simplistic view of the Clippers, and of basketball as a whole.
I do believe Doc is a better coach than VDN, and we will win a championship with him. But I don't think there's any way we would've got past the Grizz without Blake last season. The Clip's front court would've been mighty thin and a "system" would not be enough to overcome the Grizz without our superstar. I don't think you have to look at the numbers for this one.
I'd be pretty surprised if someone really thought that the Clips could've pulled out that series without Blake, just because there was a different coach. That is putting A LOT of weight on the coach. Phil Jackson has 11 rings, but we would have lost that series even if he was coaching.
Someone who gets it. Hallelujah!
I strongly doubt Doc would have run the over-the-top practice that got Blake injured in the first place, considering how his teams rarely ever practice to begin with, so it would have been a non-issue.
Blake got injured in practice before game 5, he wasn't injured the whole series, so it depends on where you think the series would have been after game 4. In game 1, he had foul trouble and scored only 10 pts and only played 25 mins. In games 2-4 he averaged 18.7 PPG / 33 MPG, that's an excellent scoring rate, basically what he was doing during the regular season.
Could the Clippers have been up 3-1 if they could have played any semblance of defense in the 2 games in Memphis? Possibly. Hypothetically, let's say they could, then we're talking about going 1-2 vs Memphis over the last 3 games if it goes to game 7 in order to win. It wouldn't be about being better than them the last 3 games, but about being able to win 1/3 games, could be that we go 1-1 and if ends in 6. Let's say it's still 2-2 after 4 games, could the Clippers have gone 2-1 vs Memphis with Blake playing 17 MPG and with 2 home games to 1? Possibly, still nothing crazy.
If Doc is the coach, the defense is better. Blake is still playing backup minutes while hobbled. If Clippers can actually defend Memphis well enough because of the different defensive coaching, even without Blake, they can produce enough offense to win games if they defended and even more so if Bledsoe is starting along with Barnes for example. The Clippers produced 106.7 Ortg and 113.6 Ortg in game 5 and 6 while Blake was injured, that's actually very good offense against the #2 ranked defense in the league, so if their efforts on defense weren't rendered futile, that's more than enough offense to win even both of those games.
Remember, Paul's averages in games 5 and 6 were:
Yea, if Paul is single-handedly doing that much scoring on that efficiency, you just need a couple of guys to make some shots, and to play solid defense and you certainly have a pretty good chance to win both those games even. If you play defense like a college basketball team facing an NBA team, then yes, sure, no chance at all, I agree.
The way you phrases made it sound like Blake got injured at the start of the series. No, we had a healthy Blake for 4 games and then we had GOD mode Chris Paul for the next two and wasted his performances because the bigs couldn't play defense, but the team as a whole had a broken defense.
Blake got injured because he landed on Odom's foot, that really doesn't have much to do with the intensity of the practice and is just a freak accident injury type situation that sucks.
I think it was more than just Blake. We lacked shooters which is what we had the season before. It was our shooting that got us out of the first round the first time. Our bigs did nothing and we didn't have the bigs that could contain theirs. Plus, we had better back-ups the first year than we did last season. One of the first things Doc did was go out and find shooters. That was more of a dire need than back-up bigs. I think the lack of shooters made us predictable and easy for the Grizz defend against.
Considering that Vinny was a part of the front office that offseason, our lack of shooters was partially his fault. On to the next excuse, because that one's not working either.
I'm pretty sure CP3 had more of a say than VDN. He was a lame duck coach so I doubt his word had much weight.
Plus, Mo wanted out. Foye wasn't asked to come back, and Nick Young wasn't that great for us until the playoffs.
While that is true and would have been important against SA, the Clippers still scored very effectively against them in game 5 and 6, a good part because of Paul's 32/5/6 on great percentages, but some others contributed too (eg: Barnes in game 6). The Clippers offense in games 5 and 6 was as efficient as the regular season offense and that was with Blake being limited, and for example in game 5 scoring 4 points on 2/7 FG.
If the goal is to score more effectively against an elite defense than you were capable against the average team, then that's a hard road to treat. I've said it many times, but we talk so much about offense, but the Memphis series was decided on the defensive end primarily, not the offensive end because even with better shooters, the amount of offensive effectiveness needed to outpace how easily we let Memphis score was crazy. If the Clippers scored at the same effectiveness as this season's offense, but allowed Memphis to score as easily and effectively (especially from the FT line) they would still have lost game 4, 5 and 6.
The Clippers scored more than effectively enough in 4/6 games to win them, but basketball is a two way sport, you can't score as much and well and effectively as you want, if you don't defend your opponent better than you can score, you lose, that's what the Clippers did that series.
I don't believe that this current team is one to put themselves in a situation where they have to score at such a ridiculous pace to win a series because the defense is so porous.
For that particular series, I'd go with the better bigs (especially defensively) over shooting if I had to choose... but you mentioned all the ingredients there (or rather lack thereof) that cost us the series.
The previous year, we had better shooting AND better defense from our front court and we won, so which was more important is debatable to me. Still... without a healthy Blake, we were no match for the Spurs and I don't see us beating OKC... even without Westbrook... and even if we'd had Doc.
The man's a coach, not a wizard.
All the talk that summer was about Vinny, Sacks, and Roeser as the "three-headed monster" of the front office, with Vinny recruiting and selling free agents on the team. Sorry to burst your bubble, but he was very involved with that offseason.
Vinny: inexplicably saw no need for shooters in the modern NBA.
Doc: brought in Redick.
Advantage: Doc.
You missed a couple:
If Vinny had signed Oden instead of Odom, Greg would have been sitting down instead of standing there when Blake landed... so it's on Vinny.
If Vinny had farted at just the right time, Blake might have cracked up laughing instead of jumping at all... so it's on Vinny.
If Vinny had dressed up as a sexy woman, Blake might have fallen in love with him and been out buying him flowers instead of practicing... so it's on Vinny.
Just let me know if you need any more "evidence" to support your cartoon vendetta. I could really have some fun with these.
Yeah, what f**king idiot who needed shooters would want a guy called Mr. Bigshot? ...especially if your best player who was about to enter free-agency wanted him too... screw that guy, right? And of course, there is only ever one candidate for 6th man of the year... the guy who finishes second is always a scrub.
We had 5 guys shoot over 36% from deep in the regular season. Nobody managed that in the playoffs... at least, not until Barnes hit 6/7 in game 6 after going 1/10 in games 1-5, thereby raising his average from 10% to 41% in what was essentially garbage-time..
Our 3pt% was actually slightly better last year than this year. What was Vinny thinking? Why would he coach the guys to start bricking everything as soon as the postseason started?
Terrible strategy.
Still... I'm pretty sure Doc will tell them that throwing the ball in the hoop is better than not throwing the ball in the hoop... Phew!
Although I just quoted a small snippet of cleepers post, it was an exceptional analysis.
Ultimately, to win an NBA title, you need (in what I think is the order of importance):
A real good team with a serious "Big Three" or at least an All-Star "Big Two."
At least one go-to crunch time scorer.
A real good coach. One who gets the team peaking at the right time.
Fair or helpful reffing.
I think the coach is factor number three in a title run. An important factor, but not the whole ball of wax. Even if Doc is the better coach, and he is, you still need all these factors to work to some degree to win it all.
Numbers four, five and six can often be the difference and it can drive fans CRAZY when they break in the wrong direction.
Thus, it is hard to codify or predict anything before it happens. My take is the Clippers are a lock for the Finals. But Number Five is going to be tough against Mr. Mount Rushmore, whom the NBA loves for some odd reason.
BEAT THE HEAT! (I do not like LeBron, obviously.)
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Vinny was very aware of the need for shooters. Green, a 44.2% shooter his previous season in ATL was brought in and shot 42.8% 3PT. Jamal was brought in and shot a career 3rd best 37.6%. Billups was retained, but his injury lingered. But even he still shot 36.7%.
Butler was a 38.8% 3PT shooter, a career high. The 3PT% was actually brought down by Paul's 32.8% which was his lowest since his rookie year as well as Odom taking 90 and making 18 (20%), and even Blake making 17.9% (5/28).
Here's the 3PT% for the SG/SF:
Green : 2.3 3PA (5.0 per 36), 42.8%
Crawford: 5.2 3PA (6.4 per 36), 37.6%
Butler: 4.2 3PA (6.3 per 36), 38.8%
Barnes: 4.1 3PA (5.7 per 36), 34.2%
Billups: 4.1 3PA (7.8 per 36), 36.7%
All taking 5+ 3PA/36 and all but Barnes were >36.7%. Those were the guys playing the majority of minutes at SG and SF.
Doc wanted a runner and to get even better shooting, but to say the team was devoid of shooting or lacking in any significant way is not accurate. The team was lacking a big man that could shoot. We assumed coming back to LA would resurrect Odom and didn't think he was having substance abuse issues, so he should have been that guy, but he wasn't.
Vinny made a lot of solid moves along with the other two front office guys, some didn't pay off, but Doc is still using the heck out of a Crawford, brought Hollins back, still values Green as a guy playing in a professional manner, though he hasn't gotten the same productivity from him that Vinny did. Just because Vinny wasn't great doesn't mean anything good he did needs to be downplayed and we need to act like everything he did was bad.
Who cares about VDN? He's old news. Time to move on with Doc.
Good post.
Great avatar. The Big Lebowski is one of the funniest movies of all time. Just to have the pic of The Dude staring me in the face makes me happy I "baandwagoned" over to the Clippers. "The Dude abides."
Beat The Heat!
You can have shooters all you want but if the offense is predictable the other team will have a better chance of defending the shooters and those numbers will go down
While that is a fine point which I've already agreed with in previous posts, we have a context.
"Vinny: inexplicably saw no need for shooters in the modern NBA. Doc: brought in Redick."
This is just not true at all
Finally we agree, it's all Vinny's fault.
There is mutual fault to be had, but if you are the coach it should be on you to steer in the right direction. I might put more or less in some cases on Vinny, but regardless there is enough blame to go around that I'm sure he deserves his fair share.
I say let's agree to disagree, because we obviously have a difference of opinion on how important it is to have a great coach. I don't remember seeing a team win with an average coach. I also don't think Doc is only marginally better, but much better.
Vinny is part of the past, and a successful portion relative to our past. Whether he actually had a major hand or limited the success is a futile argument since we will never really know. As much as I enjoy the banter, I think we could all agree that we want to win the Championship and Doc seems to be doing a great job so far.
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Dwane Casey on competing for a job with Vinny Del Negro in the future: "If he is interviewing for a job, I probably won't go."
Vinny is literally the joke of the coaching profession.
I could see Casey being a little bitter for losing out two jobs to Vinny.
Here is some more for you @JQuick32
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba,254301
There is a ton of this stuff out there with analyst saying we were crazy for choosing Vinny over Casey, LMAO. Now we are discussing if Doc is only marginally better than Vinny. I wanted Vinny, and thought he got a bad rap in Chicago; but once he was here I grew tiresome of a lot of the trends I saw. Either way he's gone, we got Doc and are ready to make a run. Let's all hope for the best.


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The product that was used is Kaleidocolors Powder Lightener. She told me it was in the beige tone to prevent the resulting shade from pulling orange. (Maybe it's the "neutral" or "violet" type? I'm not 100% sure.)
As I've said before, I'm not a huge hair-coloring person. I tend to stick with my natural color with occasional brown highlights here and there. Since I'm very low-maintenance with my haircare, I didn't want to have a dye job that would be difficult to keep up with. I do love how all-over color looks but I just don't think I could keep doing it so ombre was a good option for me.
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plainly obvouis he has a real lack of confidence in his shot right now, seriously shooting practice right after a game? ye his confidence is at an all time low
My solutions:
1.our bench is soft as a fluffy kitten - move barnes to second unit to provide some fire and "toughness"
Move granger to starting lineup and try giving him looks with Paul and blake
No more Turkoglu- him being on the floor usually coincides with deficits
Try giving baby and dj some burn together
Hire a sports psychologist for cp3 - this was a disgusting performance
I really hope this game wasn't the sign of a late season collapse. I have a terrible feeling.
He probably had that good food and was plump lol
It's not always exactly 0-12 but CP3 has WAAAAAAYYYY too many abysmal shooting nights like this in the regular season. It's to the point where he'll throw away a few winnable games per year by just completely vanishing.
last time we lost with 9 or more 3's was exactly a year ago lol
they keep saying CP3 has the highest shooting percentage in the league from about 15 out..... that didn't show tonight.
I say because his aggressiveness has really gone downhill. He rarely takes it to the rim in the half-court set anymore. He only settles for the mid-range jumper. He is too good of a player not to be going to the rim with his shots. Dude can finish.
Even more reason why throwing this game on purpose would be idiotic, since there's a very good chance we'll be 0-2 on this B2B now.
he's played 53 games and made less than 5 FG in 11 games including tonight. Two were a 21 point and 45 point blowout where he was 3/8 and 3/6 respectively, then a 4/9 15 put game by NY playing 26 mins so 8 games in 53 tries with really bad shooting.
So it's like once every 6-7 games. Not sure I would get concerned about that too be honest with you.
For all the people just writing off this loss and the recent poor play - you do realize this was supposed to be the one easy game on the trip? You do realize we play Dallas, Houston, Minnesota and Phoenix over the next four games, right? You do realize we have a very mediocre road record and are under .500 on the second night of a back-to-back? A winless record on this road trip would not surprise me and would be extremely troubling.
No big deal, you always have a terrible feeling. You're a glass half full guy.
Was Chris and the refs working together tonight? Jesus Christ!
We're looking at 0-5 now because we blew our best chance at a win.
You say that as if this team has played well enough in this recent stretch and on the road all year to justify being confident enough in beating playoff contenders to blatantly throw a game against a lottery team.
I have said this before i would gladly trade paul for a superstar wing, these days any scrub PG in the NBA can go 8-9ass, 10-12pts and with BG playing at a MVP level that is all we need, seriously CPs lack of height handicaps his scoring capabilities against good long defensive teams
Why would this be the easy game? New Orleans is now 8-4 in their last 12 and on a 4 game winning streak. People probably weren't playing too close attention to their recent success.
Their 3 Gane won streak was Hawks, Heat, Nets, not bad, and now add the Clippers.
We didn't throw this game for crying out loud. We just played our C- game and lost. Period. I think we'll be happy to go 3-2 on this trip.
come on guys cheer up. we usually come back strong after games like this.
Every 6-7 games is pretty damn common for a guy that averages almost 20 and is considered the 3rd best player by many. More importantly than field goals made look up games where he shoots under 35 or 40 percent in year one compared to last two years. Not sure on the figures myself but I have a feeling my perceptions will be confirmed. He was so reliable in the clutch and so consistent year one.
kjavis i wouldn't go that far. He had a bad night... He's still an elite pointgod.... Every dog has their day.....
i don't know what to say to this ....smh
The logic just doesn't compute here to be honest, really doesn't
I find myself agreeing more and more with this with each new disappearing act from CP3.
Their 3 Gane won streak was Hawks, Heat, Nets, not bad, and now add the Clippers.
Considering all the injuries they had tonight and their overall record, it was STILL our best chance at a win. Dallas, Houston, and Phoenix are all playoff-worthy teams and Minnesota > NOLA. With the way we've played over the past four games or so, we would get blown out by all four.
Bottom line: this team needs to finally decide if they're pretenders or contenders. If they're really contenders, they need to man up and beat the next four teams. With the recent level of play from this team, I have my doubts. They proved me wrong when I said they couldn't win any big games, I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong again.
To be completely 100 percent honest I don't think Chris Paul is playing as hard knowing what Blake is doing... But I believe come playoff's Chris "WILL" kick it into gear and we'll see that CP3 we have missed all season long... Still leads the league in assists and steals.. I wouldn't say that is very scrub.
on a side note I think the way our team plays we'd be a nightmare matchup with Grizzlies now a days..
I hate this board sometimes. Some people on here write the most negative sh*t at times. Relax, it's a frickin loss. We missed a ton of free throws, and chris Paul played terrible it happens. I can swear the second we lose to a team we shouldn't lose to, people think it's the end of the world or it's a "late season collapse"
Or how we might go winless or it's possible cause of our tendencies throughout the season. This is the first game we lost in awhile. I don't even consider the Denver one a loss cause Crawford and Collison were out off a back to back.
PS: we just recently had an 11 game win streak, don't forget
CP is the new Duds V2.0
Well, your choice of superstar wings are LeBron and Durant and we'll who wouldn't trade for them, so you aren't really saying anything note worthy.
Lucky for us though CP averages 18-9/4/11 with low turnovers and plays high level defense.
Eh, now I've had time to think about this game, it was a pretty bad loss. Nothing we can do now though. Best to not worry, and move on to the next one.
I'm starting to think Paul's public announcement that Blake needs to step up and take over the team was a way to get the pressure and focus off of him. Because since Blake has taken over the team he doesn't have the same consistency or focus it appears. He's half ass-ing things often times.
Aside the CP horrific shooting display, there was the usual scrub of the night.
Scrub of the night brought to you by: Your Los Angeles Clipper Darius Miller.
Bonus round!
Scrub number two of the night is also brought to you by your Los Angeles Clippers! Alexis Ajinca. All of his Double Doubles have come against LA. ZERO vs the league.
Lol at posts like this... Are you even a clippers fan? This sh*t is jokes man. Get real
Really wish people would stop complaining about this. Scrubs go off against other teams all the time, especially if they're motivated because a contender is coming to town. Nothing worth noting, and nothing worth worrying about.
Nobody here complained about the Denver loss because it was 100 percent reasonable. Denver is a hellish place to play on a B2B, refs screwed us, we were shorthanded and we still fought until the end. This game and other games we've lost vs bad teams have been different. Tonight the Pelicans were down 6 rotation players, we had like 2 days rest... and we had everybody important but Redick and our supposed best player had his worst performance of the year, following 3 great scoring games. It's just impossible to explain logically or point out WHAT happened. This is what angers people (including me).
I do not think we forgot. It is that we are in the Doc kinda of mindset. Forget the last game and focus on the next game. We focused on this one and tomorrow we will be back on the next one. Whether we win it or lose it, this game will be forgotten!
CP3 is a master at maintaining a squeaky clean image and ducking media criticism despite never getting past the second round in his career, so it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. Still, though, Blake's stepped up this year while CP3 has slacked off. There's really no excuse. Honestly, it's time for the media to start giving CP3 the same treatment they've given to Melo, Dwight, LeBron before his first ring, etc. - maybe once he actually has to face pressure over his less-than-stellar resume, the disappearing acts will cease.
Just wish our scrubs would go off on other teams also.
By the way, Ajinca does not go off on other teams. Check his DBL DBL stats.
I quoted Brian Seiman, Clippers radio play by play.
I doubt CPs stocks are even close to that of LB or Durant, right now I would gladly trade him for Harden&Beverly, George&Hill or DeRozan&Lowry
Man I thought the game was on at 7:30. What happened? Pelicans have been playing pretty solid recently though
Yep, Ajinca has never gone off on other teams. Nope. Fans of contending teams just need to suck it up that this sort of thing happens sometimes.
If Blake keeps this up even during playoffs and Paul doesn't step up to a true SUPERSTAR level... he's going to get destroyed by the media and fans. I won't even try to defend the guy either. I appreciate what he's done for us in terms of credibility but if all it leads to is multiple early playoff exits, it's for nothing. I'm starting to wonder if Bledsoe+cap space may have been the superior option going forward for the future considering the year Bledsoe is having. Funny enough if you look at my posts last year I said as much. When CP3 was supposedly debating leaving us in the summer... I told people Bledsoe+capspace would make us a contender too. It would allow Blake+DJ to truly explode like they have and took even further when CP3 was down.
Blake gets a pass. He just turned 25 and is in his 4th year. Paul is in his 9th year and hasn't been passed the second round.
What a shock, we finally have a bad loss and debbie downer is proclaiming the sky is falling and having conversations with himself. Sheesh, it's like some people have never watched sports before.
Bro, I totally get it. But what do you guys think or expect? 100% consistency every single game? The best in the league have played like ass at some point this season. The reigning champions miami heat and pacers have been struggling bad and so have other teams. Like I don't get it! If we are true fans you don't go talk sh*t every time something bad happens. That's like bad mouthing a friend or girlfriend pretty harshly over one little f up.
Yeah cp played piss poor, but I know it happens. It happens to Paul George, Lebron, etc. All the greats in this league! He has had amazing games this seasons and struggled with a bad injury and believe it or not maybe even needs more time to get his confidence fully back. As mad as I get when they lose, I control what I type and what comes out of my mouth. It's just sad to see that's all, we overlook the 11 win streak and how we are 8-2 in our last 10 games and how we hold like the best record in the NBA at home almost. I'm just a more half glass full guy instead half glass empty.
Sorry but that doesn't even make sense. Guarantee one loss to have more energy for another game which you might lose also?
What a shock, the homer (who never shows up after a win, by the way) is back to lecture anyone who doesn't pump nothing but sunshine about the team when they are CLEARLY playing well below expectations.
Blueajays, you already ruined one forum (which i notice you only show up fir now in the rare event the clipps lose) and now I see you've brought your act here. This team isn't playing well? Uhh they are like 12-2 in the last month dude.
In other news the Pacers beat the Heat.
Bluejays?!, lol.


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Friday started a new year with move-in day for the Class of 2017 at UNC Asheville. And the Athletic Department's coaches and student-athletes were ready to lend a helping day.
The close to 600 freshmen moving in on Friday got a chance to meet many of the athletic department's coaches, staff members and student-athletes up close. The Bulldogs helped move the freshmen into their dorms by unloading cars and carrying suitcases, books, clothes and small refrigerators into the Class of 2017's new rooms.


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Looking forward to this one could go either way. Denver fans going to be extra salty after the superbowl Jamal better watch out being Mr. Seattle.
I hope the Clippers start off with energy, stay focused, and win this easily.
Nuggets are surprisingly weak at home this year compared to the past. We can win if we show up to play.
Another day, another city.
I don't even want an NBA salary, just give me the Clippers' frequent-flyer miles.
This will be a good preparation game for the Heat this coming wednesday .
I'll be representing 2 rows behind the Clips bench. And yes. Denver is really depressed.
Go clippers destroy the nuggets !!! Win by +20 away
Let's put them away early tonight. No more slow starts.
If portland and the spurs lose coupled with us winning we can really get close to 2nd seed! But we gotta win tonight!
Lawson is one scary MoFo, he will light us up tonight.
Isn't he just getting back from an injury? Hopefully he's a bit rusty
Wizards up 8 on Portland with 90 seconds left. Looking good!
Blake being aggressive. Misses the FT though. He's been struggling from the line the last 2 games.
Look at these refs.. Jesus.
Blake dominating but i wish dj would secure those rebounds!
Nice rebound basket again by Blake!
Damn, Hickson is literally stealing 100% sure rebounds from DJ. While DJ waits for the ball to fall in his hands, Hickson comes from behind to take them away. Pathetic.
See what happens when Blake is rested. I knew he was tired as well as the team the other night.
God these techs are so stupid!
Blake is rebounding and doing good defensively.
Dj hasn't been the same since his perceived snub. Annoying
Suchabitch siting on the bench!
Hickson is killing us. Should have played him today on fantasy :/.
Portland lost so if we win, that's only 1/2 a game back.
Blake attacks the hoop like Lebron James and draws the foul on Mozgov!
DJ nice intimidation on Hickson, then Blake again Lebron-like attacking the hoop to draw another foul.
Man I love how Blake has been playing.
Mozgov would rather foul out in 2 minutes than be embarrassed by Blake again.
This will be a monster game for Blake
Anyone have to listen to the denver broadcast? These guys are the biggest haters I've ever heard.
edit: well, besides the folks over at TnT
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Great block by Hollins.
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Hollins the nice jumper proceeding a good block earlier.
Nice move jamal!
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Jamal Crawford scooping buzzer beating layup! The guys are looking sharp.
Very good first quarter by the Clips. Keep up the intensity! We need this win.
DJ had 1 rebound, 2 points, 2 TOs, 2 BS in 9.21 minutes. Needs to pick it up
Anyone notice how we haven't really been living/dying by the 3 these past few games? Seems like a whole redesign of our offense.
Hollins playing like he's heard whispers about being shipped at the deadline.
Ryan Hollins is very active tonight, blocking shots, taking a jump shot, getting offensive rebounds. Nice.
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Wow, he would be a great addition
He should be our #1 target. If we can't get him I will be extremely bummed.
Great opportunity for Doc to redeem himself as a GM!!
Maybe the reason we thinned our roster out,saw this coming. I am surprised with all the Doc hatred though.
It's not really a redemption if this was his plan all along. We all knew good players were going to get bought out eventually, Doc was just the only one with the patience to see it happen.
More stuff to come. Patience.
Speaking of undersized guys...I presume Ivan is a better defender than him, which is what I think the focus should be.
In general, I trust a guy who has managed to stay in the NBA for 7 years is at least somewhat better at defense than someone who had to go play in China because no one wanted him.
Glen Davis is undersized (height-wise), but he's less undersized than Johnson. I would much rather have someone who is at least 6 foot 10 for a backup big, but beggars can't exactly be choosers at this point.
He suffered an an achilles injury on Wednesday. Buyer beware, as if you shouldn't be before that happened.
That is fair, although a large part of why Big Baby is in the L is because of his scoring.
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"Clippers are a strong frontrunner for Glen Davis should buyout get completed, league sources tell Yahoo."
Please, basketball gods! This would be such a gift for us!
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If Glen Davis becomes available you can bet the Clippers will be interested. Doc said the two still text and talk earlier this season
THERE YOU HAVE IT , FOLKS! Glen Davis the newest Clipper
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"Orlando and Davis have reached agreement on a buyout and parting will be official on Friday morning, league source tells Yahoo."
THANK YOU! Now let's hope this was all a plan!
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Orlando and Davis have reached agreement on a buyout and parting will be official on Friday morning, league source tells
So many people will owe Doc a HUGE apology if he can sign Big Baby, Granger and Ivan. I'll start prepping the Crow.
I went ahead and followed Big Baby on twitter.
I'll bring the Chianti and Fava beans.
Yeah baby!! Bring on big baby! This would be a huge pickup! Now if we can pick up Johnson also we would be set on our bigs! Who knows what happens with granger but he would be a great sf option for us and we kept collision and Reggie!
If Doc pulls off getting Granger and Glen Davis. That puts Clips in such good position
Big baby has been bought out let's hope he's smart and signs with up
I expect to see a thread full of posts like this within a week...
If we get Davis, granger and Johnson. Man this will be a dangerous team!!!
A lot of things have to go our way, but hopefully it happens!
Is Davis a good defender?
Damn, I've been playing basketball for the Last 4 hours and just saw this article on Bleacher Report, Got so Excited, I love Big Baby..... Got my fingers crossed on this one. The article on bleacher report said :it's a virtual slam dunk for the Davis to sign with the Clip's. I hope it's true. Also heard that Jason Collins was also an option. I wouldn't mind that either. He won't be available till Friday though.
Though we wanted long wing players, this is going the opposite direction, his vertical jump is like 1inch, ingame probably the most blocked player in the league lol
did he really? i don't remember hearing about it. is it a serious injury?
Don't know how serious, but those type of injuries aren't good.
Dude ARE YOU KIDDING me? this guy was scoring like 20 a game a season ago, he's not a starter but can definitely be a Damn good backup, if we get Ivan, Davis, AND Granger that would be superb.
they said its just a sore achillies. we can rest him for a couple games if we pick him up. he could be real useful during the playoffs.
Where did it say "sore", maybe I missed that.
http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... -cavaliers
I think, personally, if we sign Big Baby, then we should just forget about Ivan. They are both a bit undersized so it wouldn't really work out too well, IMO...
i don't think it was on the link you posted. saw it on twitter.
Hmmm...ah ok.
Idk where they are looking, but I saw what you were talking about..
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--m ... 02950.html
I think sore achilles and all, Big Baby will sign with us and be ready to play in N.O.
@SpearsNBAYahoo: Along with the Clippers, sources tell Yahoo others expressing interest in free agent to be forward Glen Davis include Miami, SA, BKN & GS.
Why is everybody acting like it's a done deal? I could totally see Golden State signing him just to keep him from us.
Davis is actually a good defender and the better defender.
The struggle here is waiting, but not waiting to long trying to see your options where you end up missing out on one guy and another guy you might be waiting for doesn't end up being waived or doesn't want to play for you.
We could really use Big Baby vs Memphis on Friday. Too bad they can't expedite this waiver process.
i hope we get him & Ivan johnson.
Our new back up c.
THERE YOU HAVE IT , FOLKS! Glen Davis the newest Clipper
Let's hope he doesn't decide to go with another team. But the fact that Doc already coached him should help us in landing him.
Glen Davis would be a very nice addition, but is it a matter of going through a waiver process, or will he be a free agent able to choose whichever team to sign with?
Always a fan of big baby.. Very crazy but seems like he would do anything for his teamates
Golden State only has about $300000 to spend, so they can't claim him off waivers (if they did that, they would be required to pay his full current salary of 6.4 million). Once Davis is off waivers, he can almost wherever he wants, and Golden State can't do a thing about it.
Definitely not a done deal, but having a team coached by the guy who got him a ring, a team that is a contender, and a team that desperately needs a third big man should swing the pendulum in the Clippers's favor.
Don't think so, he is injured according to the report.


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WASHINGTON � U.S. Rep. Scott Tipton will close his Cortez office by the end of March as a result of budget cuts sweeping the nation, his spokesman said.
Sequestration � automatic, across-the-board cuts that slash $85 billion from the federal budget this fiscal year alone � began March 1.
Defense and domestic programs were hit evenly, and lawmakers� office budgets � which cover salaries, benefits and office expenses � were in the line of fire. Representatives will see their authorizations lessened by 8.2 percent, according to the Committee on House Administration.
Congressmen�s allowances range between $1.2 million and $1.5 million before these cuts, according to National Journal.
Tipton, R-Cortez, has an allowance of about $1.2 million for the legislative year, Josh Green said. His budget will be cut by about $98,400.
Shuttering the Cortez office will help close the gap, while still providing the same services to constituents, Green said.
Field representative Darlene Marcus currently spends one day a week in Tipton�s Cortez office, and the other four days in the Durango office.
Marcus will continue to be in Cortez once a week, but will hold �mobile office hours� in other locations after the end of the month, Green said.
Tipton�s office also will trim travel, Green said. The office will focus on �finding areas where we can cut back on excess travel without impacting availability and service,� he said.
Green said Tipton�s office has been preparing for these cuts for the last two years, a effort echoed by Sen. Michael Bennet�s office.
�Our office has planned for this contingency,� Bennet spokesman Adam Bozzi said in an email. �Over the last 18 months, we�ve already been tightening our belts and expect to be able to maintain that now.�
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The Senate Committee on Appropriations allocates senators� allowances. Because of sequestration, 5 percent less will be available. Senators� allocations range between $2.9 million and $4.6 million before these cuts, according to National Journal.
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Lauren Rebecca Sykes and Nicholas Burke Stoltmann were united in marriage at noon on Saturday, May 18, 2013 in Forsyth Park in Savannah. The Rev. Tim Moore officiated.
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The bridegroom is the son of Mrs. and Mrs. Frank Stoltmann of Apex, N.C. He is the grandson of Mrs. Suzanne Stoltmann-Dorsey and the late Mr. Henry Stoltmann of Wellesley, Mass. and the late Mr. and Mrs. Jere Weber of Arlington Heights, Ill.
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The couple's reception was held at 10 Downing in Savannah. Their wedding trip destination was Disney World. The couple will reside in Charlotte.
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