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With the players we had at our disposal, and the teams we were going up against, I don't think Gene Hackman from "Hoosiers" could have came out with victories these last four games.
The one MAYBE was the Nuggets game, but otherwise the Jazz and Lakers are excellent teams that have had their core people together for several years, we weren't going to beat them.
We're not where we want to be yet. Love, like clippers basketball, takes time...
It's been Dunleavys team, He's had say so in the Clippers draft picks since Chris Kaman, he just now officially got the GM title. I think the only thing that is saving him is his longevity as a coach. It's only a matter of time before Stephen A. Smith or one of the more outspoken espn analyst start calling for his head, because everyone can see he's doing something wrong.
i know im alone in the cold over here, but i still like dunleavy. sure he has made mistkes, and we can all find something to question him on, but that goes for anyone we put here. imagime the screaming that would be going on if say phil jackson was our coach, and went on one of his patented ::: my teams ice cold, havent hit a shot in 4 minutes, let them work it out bythemselves on the court ::: deals, where he wont call a timeout or sub for 7 minutes when theyre gettin beatin down..... my point being that nomatter who we have we'll all find gripes. thats the nature of the coach-fan relationship.
having said that, dunleavy has been the most professional, loyal, hard working, committed to winning and being successfull, not only coach, but employee in the entire organization since ive followed the team when they moved to la in '84.
lets get these horses healthy, and lets see what we really got here..... still could be a very special squad
Who in here thinks we should just get rid of Dunleavy??
Don't get me wrong I like Mike but his coaching and lineupps are killing the Clippers.
First of all Kat needs to come off the bench. Kat is inconsistent and does not bring the offensive scoring. We not try the new rookie Gordon.
Second, if other players are not scoring or seem to not work well with others, please take them out. Mike leaves them in there until they dig themselves into the hole.
I think a new coach, ideas, will bring this team together.
What do you guys think??
I respectively disagree. Although some of his moves or non-moves are questionable, at 25 games in is when I will judge.
I think we have given dunleavy plenty of games to improve his moves and coaching.
I know everyone right now is unhappy with what we have seen so far but if we do not voice our opinions and recommend changes, the team will not get anywhere.
New coach & Reasonable lineups will make the players better. If you change the lineupp 30 times during the regular season then you don't know what the heck you are doing.
Sorry AJclip I think we need a new coach.
I disagree as well we are only 4 games into this, which is rhetorical to want to simply get rid of the man that aided in forming the team we have now, not to mention doing a good job in previous s. I mean come on man, even great teams sometimes fall short with a 0-loss column I didn't expect us to perform greatly off the bat, your forgetting this team is new! we need time! have some friggin' patience!, I'm getting mad due to the post saying, we lost we need to get rid of this one, it's like think for five minutes! But whatever to each his own, I suppose if Davis scores less than his average we'll be seeing, "Davis For ___?, I think So?", I'm sorry but..although Dunleavy did some mistakes , this can't be said this early.
I know it is early in the season but if you have the wrong players in at one time then you are not going to have any chemistry.
Just to point one of many errors.... Why did dunleavy select to post up Tim Thomas and give him the final shot against Denver??
I could of guess, if I was denver, that they would be going to tim thomas again. A coach needs to develop plays that will be giving you the victory.
The only reason we are talking about it is because the play fall flat on it's arse. Had it gone in, this wouldn't be an issue. TT was probably the only player making shots that game so why wouldn't you go to the guy that was making his shots?
It wasn't the play that sucked, it was the execution of the play by Mobley & TT that made it suck.
You have to admit, TT's fall away 15 footer looks pretty good...in the first half.
I give him 15 more games...His credibility as a coach is falling, not because we are losing now but what he did last years. Maybe someone who could give fresh air would be interesting and personally I'd like to see Avery Johnson as our coach. But I repeat: only if things don't work after 15 games
On the other hand I like Dunleavy as GM.
OK here we go again, people wanna see change because we are not winning. We need time and then the Ws will roll our way (hopefully, more so than now at least). However I would get a new coach in here just because I dont believe Dunleavy is a good coach (this dates back to before he was even a Clipper coach.) He is alright, good enough to be mediocre (a lil above average at the best), but we need a COACH. A players coach, a coach with a Coaches swag - its somethings a few coaches have, that Dunleavy does not.
Point Blank, people need to stop bitching the wins will come soon enough, but if we expect to be an elite team with respect from people across the nation, itll need to start with a revamped roster keeping a few of our core and letting go of those mediocre "roll" players. Then we need to get a real Coach. This would result in a genuinely good team. Not one with a few moves with somewhat recognizable names, and the hype of a superstar PG taking a team with a bad rep and trying to have a Disneyland ending. Our team in 05-06 was much more solid than our team NOW. Had we had a better coach, we migh have been taken to the promised land. However we can still grow as a team (only then will we be better than 05-06), but one still wonders how far can Dunleavy really take us? How much further can other coaches lead this team?
Miguel - I agree with you. I would love to see Avery and what he would offer the clips.
I guess it is a wait and see for now
everything you've said, i could understand (although i strongly disagree). but you give no reasons why you think he's always been a bad coach. if you really think we need a new coach, you need to set a criteria - otherwise, the next coach is just a crapshoot. that's as good as saying john wooden was a good coach because he was pretty good at coaching.
when he took this job, he inherited a team that only won 19 games the previous year and steadily improved each and every year thereafter (one shot away from the conference finals in a year that we surprised everyone). the past three years we've been marred by injuries to key players and you cant put the blame on him for that.
no you are right, but one criteria is dealing with the situations that arise within and during the season, injuries included. Lakers did fine when Kobe was injured (not even going to talk about a season going Bynum-less and making the finals). Heck the Utah Jazz was without thier leader and they worked around it. Dunelavy does not have the sense to use the right player in the right time. He got lucky with EB and Maggette because he would always have two work horses he would play and determine the game. A good coach is a good coordinator, Dunleavy is not. A good coach rises to the occasion and works against the odds, Dunleavy just talks and justifies the excuses. A good coach can be on the same page with the players and fans and the game (theres three cirteria right there that dunleavy lacks). A good coach is assertive, he can assess his teams strengths and weaknesses and exploits their strengths while minimizing thier weaknesses. A good coach has a a sense of an offense and defense - his system - which he runs and changes due to the given circumstance, our players look out of hand and out of control (they have been before this season). Do you notice how difficult it is for us to score? Other well-coached teams are controlled in a system that is tight (where it needs to be tight) or loose (when it needs to be). That is some criteria of good coaches. Considering I am a player and a coach, I understand my roles and what each job expects of me - this is how i see that Dunleavy lacks that coaching edge.
I think Dunleavy has too much on his plate right now. The Clips should hire another coach, and let Dunleavy stick to being the GM.
I do notice how difficult it is for our team to score. No matter who we play, it seems like the team is fighting an uphill battle on offense. I know its early, but even previous seasons, it just doesn't look like the players enjoy executing the plays Dunleavy calls. I don't know if Dunleavy is solely to blame, because I think we have really one dimensional players with low basketball IQs. Maybe the offense is too complicated for guys like Al, Cuttino, and Ricky...as they seem to catch and hold the ball for long periods of time. I also don't like how our offense sets start with 13-15 seconds left on the shot clock, causing us to shoot low percentage shots due to the shot clock winding down. I don't know why we can't bring the ball up faster and start the offense faster.
I think Dunleavy's micromanaging coaching style of always standing throughout the game and yelling calls/comments to the players on the court, might be wearing out and becoming not as effective as it was in the beginning.
One other thing I disagree with Dunleavy is his tendency to always match up to the other teams. He's always done this with his starting five and subsititutions, and it leaves us at a big disadvantage. He'll match up the other team with our best defenders, and leave our better all around players on the bench.
Who knows what's really going on. I do think Dunleavy truly cares about the success of the team and its players, and he gives it 100%, I just don't know why we are always struggling to win and/or be consistent.
We do not have an identity of ourselves until then we will keep losing.
Man you hit it right on the spot!!! Mr. Video is running out of time. He cooked himself his own last meal. He put this team together himself and can't even figure how to win. somebody mentioned that golden state started off 0-7 but i bet they didn't get blown out or quite the way our team has. Baron will soon notice that dumleavy is no offensive genuis. He's been the coach for several years now and not once have i felt confident that he would come up with some game winning play to get us the win. We will win eventually but's it's because these guys are proffesionals and it's what they get paid to do. He's is a better G.M. than coach period..............................
Only thing I'm mad at about Dunleavy is the rotation. By simple match-ups what happen with Milsap didn't make sense and didn't even make Dunleavy "system" sense.
Paul Milsap began to score like crazy and out hustle players, Dunleavy usually would put a player in the game to match the hustle and play. I'm thinking what is Dunleavy waiting for Tim Thomas is average defender on the outside but will get killed inside the paint. Why not throw in Brian Skinner and allow him to get physical and bother some shots, get blocks, and secure rebounds.
And OH MY GOD we have to find a way to fix the SG problem that position is where we're suppose to get good shots from more than others. Cat seems to struggle when he is not the number one option.
I agree Mike should be GM....as you all know he was the one acquiring players and not Elgin Baylor. He was out there negotiating contracts and convincing players to come and play for clips.
As far as a new coach, I would like to see Avery come in to the picture. He has the passion for B-ball and I am sure he might give allot of his insights/knowledge to our young players like EG, P Davis...etc.
I am hoping Mike improves and or listens to us fans and gets a good lineup and makes good decisions or else I am voting for new coach.
Anyone attending the GS game on Nov 15th?? I will be there.
LOL... heck yeah... remember during the BD announcement conference, Elgin didn't even know what to say about acquiring BD.
I'd really want MD just to be the GM... he just looked bad this year. He looks really stressed out.
And Cisco, Ellis wants a trade. Maybe we should try and get him. Check it out on the NBA forum.
Hello guys, I love this site.
He(MDunleavy) is not a good Coach, but honestly, who cares?, cmon guys go to a celtics forum, its pretty nice to cheer for a WINNING franchise.
No, but seriously get out...
He(MDunleavy) is not a good Coach, but honestly, who cares?, cmon guys go to a celtics forum, its pretty nice to cheer for a WINNING franchise.
No, but seriously get out...
comon I know you want....
comon I know you want....
Who the hell are you, and why are you here? If it's starting to piss people off here, then you doing a hell of a job.
Who the hell are you, and why are you here? If it's starting to piss people off here, then you doing a hell of a job.
no, Im not looking for troubles.... I tried to be funny at first, I enjoy reading Clips and Lakers boards, just to know whats going on.
Fair enough...
Dunleavy is 3/4 of the problem. Getting beaten is one thing but getting blown out is another.We have the ability to play small ball as well as half court. I'm eating my words but we do need Gordon in. How about three guard sets? We need to develop our Bigs. We can rotate Camby and Chris and add Skinner or Davis at PF. Our bench is absent.
ps The Black coach in Hoosiers was my neighbor. Speaking of Black men we all should be proud to be Americans by electing Obama. I'm not saying this because he's a Democrat or Republican. When he was born his parents couldn't vote in the South. Some ethnic feuds have lasted 500 yrs. We are quite remarkable.
I do notice how difficult it is for our team to score. No matter who we play, it seems like the team is fighting an uphill battle on offense. I know its early, but even previous seasons, it just doesn't look like the players enjoy executing the plays Dunleavy calls.
Or lack there of. As a coach I am not fond of Dunleavy at all. He is out of tune with his players, with the crowd, and with the GAME. This is what I mean by a system. In college they have a motion offense from which they can run different "set plays". Dunleavy does not need to be as organized as college basketball (as it is incredibly more different than the NBA), but obviously he needs to me more organized than this.
No our players are not one dimensional, it is a coaching problem. His micromanaging ways and control freak habits with no organization make out offense as agonizing as we are watching. were shooting in the 30s a night...
Once again... Mike Dunleavy got outcoached...
Beaten by the Martin-less Kings?
Clippers should be scoring over 100 ppg easy every game with all their weapons...
he makes 1 fricken move after another. he just cant coach.
remember the game against pho when he put a player in that had yet to play 1 minute?
he takes 2 timeouts and not even close to getting a good shot.
benches wrong players. keeps players benched for long!
hate to say it he just suxs at a coach!
opps didnt see this. FIRE HIM!
He should do another great GM move and fire the coach!!!...lol This is so freckin frustrating!!!!
as a gm he isnt bad. as a coach he is a joke. i had enough really. i leep makeing excuses for him but its his fault the team looses!
no duh
Dunleavy should fire himself.
I would say that our team has twice the better players than the Kings (anyone disagree?)
can anyone tell me, why the HELL is Tim Thomas always so friendly with our opponents?!?!
any idea of how to get this done?
i know there has to be some way. i am just tierd. he has to go and go NOW!
Everyone is so up about our coaching that David actually created a whole sticky thread about it.
Who cares if we extended Dunleavy's contract, freakin fire him.
Best move DTS would ever do, to our lowsy Clipper history.
He has made some weird moves but honestly this loss is all on the players. Mike loves running the offense but it was our D that lost us this game. We couldn't make a stop to save our lives. Guys honestly I don't think Mike is the problem. I mean Udrih had 5 rebounds and the Clippers top rebounder was Chris with 6.....
Also no one can tell what was supposed to happen out of those timeouts but it's the Clipper players that fail to create anything out of the timeout. I doubt Mike's play calling is as terrible as we saw from the inbound plays.
When the Clippers dont have any momentum they just stand around. The kings were running all over the place. Driving the lane and kicking it out to an open man for a long 2 or 3. That's what the Clips should be doing. attacking the basket creating space for perimeter shooters. Or at least swing the ball around. All we do is play one on one while the other 4 guys stand and watch and I know Mike's plays aren't made for one on one's
he is a overrated horrable coach. and its enough we cover for him. he gets outcoached by everyone. cant comeup with easy looking shot with 2 timeouts.!
I know many want to see him go but we have like what 5 returning clipper players? It apparently is hard to play with new guys no matter how good or how much potential the team has on paper. I understand losing sucks but you can't go around demanding someone to be fired. Chris plays a couple bad games and half this board wants him out. We'd get no other legit big in return and we'd be an even worse team. Now we have this game where our guys are playing 0 D and it's Mikes fault. Could this be because of the article we read today about Davis and Mike? I know we'd rather take Davis's side because he is our star PG.
He had a terrible game tonight....at least for the caliber player he is. 4-15 from the field?
The defense killed us, not our coach. But I agree if things don't pick up within a reasonable amount of time maybe a new coach is in order. But not this early. Again we've played what 8 games? And you guys want a new coach......this team has played fully healthy 3 times...give them some time. As I said before I feel the players lost this game not the coaching.
Dunleavy calls all the plays on the defensive end as well so please stop saving Dunleavy...
Our player's are better overall at everything compare to the Kings. From our three point shooters, athletiscm, rebounding, EVERYTHING.
Dunleavy was out-coached on the Rockets' game and he was CLEARLY out-coached in this game. If you say so otherwise, you've probably didn't see the game because you were drooling in your sleep.
If Dunleavy stays... I really think that there is no way in hell that we'd make the playoffs.
Everyone wanted to fire him last year, but we were willing to give him another shot because a lot of players were injured. He has no excuses this year.
If I don't see any progress, I want him fired at the very least, as early as next year. Yes, on January 1st 2009.
Your gonna honestly tell me that Dunleavy was the fault for our defense. Yeah must be his fault our guys stand and watch the other team rebound. Must be his fault our players don't box out. Must be his fault thay let a crap team like the kings run around the Clips like a bunch of high school retards. It's either zone or man defense. The players have to f**king defend.
I went to a Knicks game last year in New York and they were selling "Fire Isiah" t-shirts, they were chanting "fire Isiah" all throughout the game, and sure enough, a few weeks later Isiah Thomas stepped down. If we really want Dunleavy to go that bad, we need to let Sterling know. Trust me, Sterling isnt a member of Clippers Topbuzz. He isnt reading this post. He has no idea the Clipper fans want Dunleavy to to get the axe. If we want it, we need to organize. T-shirts, yelling at games, anything. Something needs to be done. I love the Clippers. and Dunleavy is ruining another promising season....
We're 8 games into the season with only playing our starters 3 or 4 times....5 returning clipper players from last season. we have no identity and played horribly tonight and I don't think it's the coaches fault. But hell we need justice right? So fire the coach. Fire somebody or trade somebody cause that's the only solution.
Just my opinion. And enough with the playoff's We need to make improvements and while the playoffs would be awesome it's not expected of us this season. Just improvement over last season. We are the only team with this many new faces to a roster. Other teams have chemistry, they know each others tendencies, they have a style of play that works. We're still struggling to find all those attributes. We're not the only team in this conference struggling (Spurs and Mavericks) The kings have the 8th seed right now. I can't imagine them holding onto that for very long.
"If I don't see any progress, I want him fired at the very least, as early as next year. Yes, on January 1st 2009. " - Jay.r
I do agree with that. That's a reasonable time frame and gives everyone time to prove themselves including the coach. 8 games is too soon to be doing anything.
couldnt agree more....... seems to me that alot of people here have very quick and harsh reactions from game to game. whether its fire the coach or trade kaman, mobley or tt after a bad game or two. i mean everyone was pretty much euphoric after the dallas win, and i dont recall anyones head being called for following that game.
i guess all im trying to say is, try and give it 20-30 games before we start to demand trades and firings
I don't blame Dunleavy at all. We lost at the defensive end of this game. Sometimes your shots don't fall, nothing you can do about that. But defense is PURELY effort, there is no excuse for bad defense. They didn't play hard until it was too late, I hate this team right now, TRADE!! TRADE!! TRADE!!
Thank you, glad someone feels the same way. I know we're all allowed our opinions but to be calling for our coach to be fired or players to be traded this soon is ludicrous. Losing is hard and being the worst team in the league is even harder but give the team and organization some time to rebound. If not then obviously someone is holding us back.
This isnt a 20-30 game kinda thing. This is a few years in the making. He's been a terrible coach every year he's been here. Even the year we made it to the second round. Dunleavy got out-coached in that series and thats why we lost. If you want me to site specific examples, I have plenty. Its time for a new style of coaching. Dunleavy was an adequate fit for the "Elton" era, but this is the "Baron" era. Its time for fast paced, high flying fun. Not, slow-down, half court isolation, stand around and take jumpshots. GET DUNLEAVY OUT OF THERE
I'm glad you guys can stay optimistic, but I can't. I've watched this team for almost two decades, we always try to look at the bright side, never be too hasty, and NEVER make the trades, and ya know, we always lose. We need more athletic players to compliment Baron, we need better scorers more than anything. Some trades have to be done.
i guess all im trying to say is, try and give it 20-30 games before we start to demand trades and firings
Thank you, glad someone feels the same way. I know we're all allowed our opinions but to be calling for our coach to be fired or players to be traded this soon is ludicrous. Losing is hard and being the worst team in the league is even harder but give the team and organization some time to rebound. If not then obviously someone is holding us back.
Who do you think that person that is holding us back is? Everyone is frustrated with the losing. Everyone here knows that this team is new. It can take 20-30 games to get adjusted. You're right. However, 30 games of getting used to eachother means no playoffs again.
This loss is unacceptable as the 8 games we have already played. The other day versus the Mavs we won without playing good basketball. We don't run plays offensively and there are too much one on ones. Our basketball is simply horrible and previsible. It's time for changes: this loss is too much for me. Sincerely I'm ashamed


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Good job, Blake!
Griz should have gotten a tech for all that whining.
I thought in clutch time they swallow their whistles more jesus these refs impact are felt more than michael jordan in a game 7! Come on
How is that a foul? Unless I missed him pushing Z-Bo, idk how that could be a foul!
True contenders play D consistently, not just the last 5 minutes of games.
Isn't funny how ZBo doesn't drive when BG is guarding him but when our "defensive anchor " does, he takes him on the first chance gets? lol
Big shot barnes
They can't defend without fouling
I actually like Bullock if he is played in the right situations, like as a stater or with other drivers on the court. Not when he is playing with Barnes and Dudley because then you have no one that can drive and kick or finish strong
Even CP can't make both
What happened to chris fts ugh
Omg we can't make free throws....
Never seen a clutch player drop off so fast in that regard as Paul this year. He's anti-clutch lately.
Of course, Chris chokes on the free throw. The ft plague continues...
Free throws just killing us
Blake is clutch i guess
CP still got his IQ
Why can't anyone stop gasol ever?
Come on guys. Defense. Get that stop. DEFENSE!
So if we didn't miss 17 ft...
Who got the other T?
Wtf is the point of a double technical with 1 minute left? I told you these refs are something else...they have unlimited power with no checks and balances system in place. Who wouldn't abuse this power!?
Doc should teach DJ how to drive from the free throw lane like that
Boy. Griffin with a great defensive play, rest of guys ball watching.
GRAB THE BOARD NEXT TIME PLEASE! Omfg
WTF was DJ???
Blake breaks up the play and DJ just watches as Zbo makes the f***** basket.
Blake deserves better than this.
Here we go again we need to rebound and box out Clips.
Man does anyone on this team pay attention? God.
But he's the defensive anchor!
DJ needs to learn to box out instead of jump out ( meaning out jump ) REPPED LOL
He must know how KLove feels now. Where everyone else just doesn't step up. So sad...
Crap. CP jammed his thumb.
I don't even get mad at DJ for that anymore, he does it so much the ball watching and no second effort and Doc doesn't say anything but praise him so it's no use
Over. New coach same outcome
How is gasol so open for that off reb
Seriously, Blake and maybe JJ are the only untouchable players on this team in my book. The rest of this team can GTFO.
Again. Blake with the D. Guys watching the play.
Where was dj for the rebound!? He gets all these irrelevant ass rebounds but when they actually matter he is nowhere to be found or they slip out of his vaseline inflicted hands...god...I needs some weed right about now
13 seconds left and down 6. Need a miracle.
Wow after a year nothing has changed, Gasol/Zbo still dominates us
I love the **** the grizzlies get away with under the hoop
Good Game. I feel good about WCF when we get healthy.
Chris Paul still trying to get his rythym back,
JJ out. When our guys are back we'll be good.
DJ AGAIN fails to box out, leaving Blake on an island. How many f***** times does it need to happen? Never seen such a terrible center fundamentally with so many physical gifts.
Disappointing loss
You wonder how gasol gets that easy rebound? He has DJ with his low IQ standing and not anticipating where the ball is going to fall.
Gave this game away at the line. Hopefully we can use a real back up big instead of Turkoglu soon, he was exposed badly this game.
Are you on drugs? Like, you seriously can't be watching the same games as the rest of us.

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I thought the Pistons would have tired legs on their second night of a back-to-back. They're giving the Clippers a challenge here.
CP with a bucket and an and-1.
Chris definitely closing this game out like a true star
Lol, I love how CP tricks a player to foul him.
Baffled by how our starters are over +20 while our bench is like -10 lol. Our starters killed it.
Team needed an extended game to flow. Next game we need the bench to get boosted time.
CP is having an awesome game tonight.
To say chris has completely dominated this game is an understatement
Matt had an off shooting night, but was very good on the defensive end.
Good win tonight!
f'ed up the differential dj. Damn matt those threes though.
Good bounce-back win.
Our superstars:
Was trying to outgun Josh Smith.
Blake is posting Lebron like stats lately. I always saw him as a Lebron more than a real PF anyway.
It amazes me that Josh Smith still thinks he can shoot the 3. Every piece of evidence says he should stop, but he keeps doing it anyway. He needs a coach that will convince him to change his game.
Undeniably superb game by Chris Paul, with stellar score, assists, and steals, while maintaining a league-leading assist-turnover ratio. Happy that Chris Paul seems to have broken his shooting slump, hope this is not a fluke.
Where's that troll Wgreen? His so-called "greatest starting five in the league" got smacked by the Spurs!
This 4-day break was really good for CP (and the rest of the team, of course). He looked like he was feeling so much better after all his injuries. I hope he keeps on feeling better.
Side note: Miami Heat's loss this evening has allowed Clippers to catch them in standings (both teams now have losses of 21 each) - at least for the moment.
Its been 9 seasons. Pretty much a loss cause.
In unison class. I want you to all say Lamar Odom.
Our problem wasn't the bench it was Big Baby. I don't know why Doc didn't put Hollins in. Baby couldn't get any boards and taller guys were shooting over him. At least Hollins could have gotten some rebounds. That will kill us. We don't need JJ if we can get some boards (hyperbole of course) This could cost us a series. They went from a 10 point advantage to a two point deficit? Barnes was OK and Collison and Granger did well. Hedo was passable. If LO can play in the next 2 weeks sign him.
Davis can't play center...he needs to play alongside one. He looked good with DJ on the court at the same time in Utah. Maybe blake should get subbed out before DJ.
Also was a but disappointed that blake didn't do much down the stretch. Can't have it be the cp3 show all the time.
how bout that blake euro step dunk in transition. that was silky smooth. not like some of those travels lebron gets away with.
Good win. Would like to see them put bad teams away earlier, but a win is a win. Granger off the bench has been great. Maybe he can be our 6th man next year. We have to win the next game and go into this road trip on a positive note.
ps- would it be possible for the mods to include the box score in game threads?
If we don't have a center who can rebound we're porked. Our second unit is monstrous except for that. Our lead vanishes like Donald Trump's hair when the second unit comes in
There's a little red tab for it at the top of the page.
this, like in Orlando. Hollins / Jordan (C) with Davis as PF should be much better. Pls Rivers try it!
Cool. Thanks.
Nice piece on the comparisons between CP3 and Isaiah Thomas...
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/cli ... wants-more
About that time Hollins should be back into the rotation and Barnes with bench. Barnes and Hollins will add some needed length and hustle to the bench. Those guys don't need shots outside of hustle plays so the offense would run through DC, Crossover, and Baby ( Glen should get better looks at PF).
No to Hollins - need blake or dj to be on the court
At all times. Blake and baby don't work
At 6'10" Blake can't play center against a true seven footer. If BG is on the court and DJ is on the bench who's going to match either of the Gasols, Hibbert etc? We will die. It's Hollins or maybe Odom. How many 10 days can we give and until when?
Hollins is a foul waiting to happen. He is a machine whose sole purpose seems to be to commit dumb fouls. He is a beanpole with zero strength, and he can't defend any of the people you mentioned. Odom is done. Baby will have to do, but doc needs to focus in getting him I to better spots offensively. That might open up his game. I never want to see hollins again on the court. He is so wild and out of control, I worry he will hurt someone. Not to mention he can't defend the simplest pick and roll. Tweaks that might help are subbing blake out first, putting baby in. This way DJ and baby can get some burn. Turkoglu and baby suck together, I think he needs to try something else.
Hollins can't either. He will foul out in 10 minutes.
Baby can't jump, Hedo is a PF/SF, BG can play center only in small ball. Those are the rest of our Bigs. We have only DJ. We take him out and who do we put in who can rebound? BG. He did OK on M Gasol but without DJ we'd get killed on the boards then. With Hollins only a severe beating. Assume we're playing the Pacers and Bynum is healthy. Where do we go? Will Hollins be adequate, no but as good as Davis at least possibly better.
Baby got zero boards if I remember right. Hollins would have gotten two or three. That should make up for his fouls.The lack of rebounding hurt us when the starters were out. Can Hollins defend WELL against Gasol etc? No but he's long enough to be annoying.
Don't bet too much money that Lamar is done. Probably so, possibly not. We don't know how bad his back injury really is. It may be better in two weeks. We have an open roster spot and a 10 day contract won't hurt us at all. We have nothing to lose. Lamar was our top rebounder and last year's Lamar is better than this year's Big Baby.
Last year Hollins
11 min played, 3.4 ppg; 2.3 reb; 2.2 fouls
This year
8 min; 2.3 ppg; 1.5 reb; 1.4 fouls
That's not too bad
Admittedly the foul stats may look better than they are considering he plays short minutes at the end of periods etc.
We don't need Odom just a waste of money he is already done.
Yes we do if he can play like last year. A ten day contract would be a reasonable gamble. He played well enough to make the team in Spain unless he was released because he sucked can water.
What is there to lose?
Congrats to Point God!
why is everyone so against hollins, the dude is athletic, energetic, a big body that can block shots and bring some passion off the bench. He doesn't have to play big minutes, nor play huge for us with guys like DJ griffin and big baby. Get off his ass, he does make some vague and naive plays at times but not for people to bag on him like they have.
i cannot stand that kid haha
Thank you. Hollins actually has looked well in some situations.
I believe with Big Baby at PF and Hollins at Center it will fix the
bench issues.
Big Baby at C was an experiment that has thus far failed. Nice try,
but he is really uncomfortable playing directly under the basket.
He is good when he can play 10-15 foot and box out the other PF
from the range.
big baby isn't athletic enough or long enough to guard other centers, yeah he is a big body but he is just useful as a mid range pick and pop guy and some rebounding. I'm not saying his defense is bad but Hollins should be used a little more
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We need this , I believe doc has his team ready !! This would be a statement game to thoses chumps !!
A win against these pesky Warriors would be awesome. I hope the Clippers come out with gusto and not let up. This is a statement game if there ever was one.
i truly hate the Warriors,hoping for a big game for Blake.
we should win this tonight, and when we do I hope our players celebrate emphatically
Steph galloping down the court last season in celebration is fresh in my mind. Bothers me more than bazemore mocking blake.
The team should watch last game and last years game for motivation
I hope the guys show up loose. All the pressure is on them. We have 5 games on that team and one of these days our PG will come back.
We win and it's devastating for them, damn near ends their chances at a division title and they really have to start thinking about just staying in the top 8.
They win and whatever, it's our 2nd on back to back after a long trip and all they did was cut the deficit to 4.
I'm not crying if we lose but if we win it really would be demoralizing for them. Should be a fun game to watch.
I agree, dude! Don't want to be down 1-2 on those guys if we have capable players... I feel that last year warriors were better so far in.... but we need to get in them early and not lose focus. David Lee needs to have an off game and curry + assist.
Even tho I have Lee on my fantasy but I'll be fine with an off game. 13-0 I'm str8
If the Clippers need to watch that game for motivation, then they lack motivation.
Think the motivation is there, now let's get a win.
I swear, if the Clippers embarrass me again at Oracle, I will just go to see them in Sacramento from now on. It's troubling to be a bay area transplant and see all of these Warriors shirts here. It makes me want to slap someones momma.
I hope Blake has a coming out party and scores like 55 on em. I want an emphatic win!
Can we beat the infamous TNT curse, maybe we can since charles barkley said something nice about Blake. It might have been the monkey on his back (probably not!)
I hope Draymond Green gets dropped by a BG poster. 2nd on the list of the most hated warrior.
I hope boget get clocked hard and knocked out , I hate the guy !! Clippers by 20+ !!win
You guys are hilarious! Lol go clippers! Clippers make sure your hotness burn down their golden state bridge
Finally finish a long road trip, then we immediately get a road game on back to back, kind of lame scheduling. We had a good game against Toronto on our last back to back, so hopefully we can repeat that here, Golden State isn't really doing any better than post-Gay trade Toronto.
This game's definitely winnable. When Warriors are hot, they can play with the best, but they're too inconsistent.
I expect this to be a very physical game. All I hope is Blake and DJ not get too emotional and get called for stupid fouls.
Let's beat down these Cowards tonight. F**K the Warriors and Mark Jackson the fraud.
I actually am a fan of the warriors. They are similar to our team in terms of the starting 5. But whenever we play them I can't stand them. I swear if Bogut or Draymond do some stupid **** i'm punching the closest warrior fan to me.
This is the one game i want us to win really bad.. GO CLIPPERS
Lollllll... U going to the game?
Everyone, be ready for an over-dramatic speech from Mark Jackson... Oh TNT, you and your sound bites...
Blake needs to drop 50+ in response from the Christmas game. I'm not just hoping for a win. I'm hoping the Clippers crush the Warriors and embarrass the **** out of the Warriors.
Clippers +6 tonight. Ouch.
I want Blake to just GO OFF! !!! Triple double style! !! And i feel that dj really Needs to have a big game for us as well. That punk of a coach Jackson, looooves to pull the "hack-a-dj"!! But defensively hopefully dj OWNS THE PAINT!
So many elements against us in this one no CP3, back to back, on the road, and the fact they just got home from a long road trip and have to leave again.
It's nice to know that we can afford to lose this game because of the ground we picked up on the Dubs. That being said, I WANNA WIN!
WANTED: A Bogut poster by Blake Griffin and a Mark Jackson ejection. Lol
lol no ^_^, probably just going to buffalo wild wings or big wangz to watch the game
@WinningBasket, I like where you are going with that. If we could get two posters in this game with your choices of Bogut, Lee, and Green topped with a crying Mark Jackson followed by an ejection that would great.
Well personally, I am nervous as all get out with this game. We had to work too hard to win last night, GS hates our guts (feeling is of course mutual), they will cheat and get away with it as the TNT refs will be calling the game, the game is on TNT, and Charles "I-never-met-a-cheeseburger-I-didn't-like" Barkely will be there bad-mouthing us. All makes me nervous.
Let's beat the holy hel* out of these guys.
@namzug, let's hope the basketball gods hear our pleas and make 3 posters (Bogut, Lee, AND Green) to make up for the Christmas Day fiasco by the refs. I like the "crying Mark Jackson" image. LMAO
I hope Bazemore gets posterized by Blake even if that punk is on the bench!
I just got reminded of the little fiasco with Jordan Crawford when Blake posterized Humphries. I can see the whole team crying about their bigs getting posterized. I will miss Stak5 being on our sidelines keeping them on check, because they know they aren't bout that life.
I'm hoping Blake goes off.
Charles has been jumping on too our ship as of late, saying Blake has been imposing his will, that DJ should be an All-star, just showing glimpses of how he is going to jump ship soon. I predict him going back to his early prediction of us being contenders pretty soon, saying it's cuz of Blake imposing his will and getting tougher as a team. His exit clause will be the lack of depth in our front court.
I predict many turnovers for the Warriors, and Mark saying that they gave us the game because of it.
The refs will keep a tight rein on the players and allow no rough stuff. Also because the whole sports world knows we got screwed out of that game expect us to get a few calls. (I hope) The main thing is that BG has to stop being Rasheed Wallace. They will call a technical for the slightest infraction, and I'm sure that the refs have made this real clear to both coaches. I think they will cut BG some slack because the whole world is watching.
Big Game for DJ tonight i bet after learning that he was not chosen as an All-Star Reserve. Chris and Blake both made it.
I've had this game circled since Christmas. Can't wait! I hope we destroy these punks!
Did you guys see DJ (and JAMAL) got snubbed for the AS game. CP3 was picked as a reserve though.
Dj was deserving but hardly snubbed. So many great players didn't make it. Cousins and Davis could have made it but didn't. Most 6th men aren't all stars either. They need to stay focused. Team wins more important than individual accolades (although I did strongly want blake and Chris to be starters). Jamal is the favorite for 6th man if he cares about being honored. Should focus on that
I hope this all star "snubbing" business doesn't make us lose our focus for tonight.
Dragic is whooping the Pacers, let's hope DJ and Crawford and Reddick go OFF tonight and whoop these unlikeable bunch!
Well David West could be considered to be snubbed too so it could affect both teams if the players let it.
Oops, I got a bit confused there.
Chris Paul Working Out PreGame... Looks good. Looks like a soon return, IMO
Dragic just beat the Pacers, went off for 28 pts. Let's hope we're on the right end of a mad snub!
The AS game is a popularity contest like King of the Junior Prom. Kobe asked that he not be considered since he didn't play. Guess what the Great Unwashed did? When DJ gets a commercial he'll make it.
So..... What happens if Kobe is injured at the All Star game? Don't even know why he was a vote option, Westbrook was out Rose was out...
Dang, duns! Has done it again! Suns lol beat pacers ah! We need this!


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LAS VEGAS Its not wise to Google the nearest gas station, compose email, or use your smartphone to check the latest sports scores while driving. But many Americans do.
Drivers have grown so accustomed to their on-the-go tasks that automakers are increasingly trying to make those things easier to pull off with both hands on the wheel and both eyes on the road.
As General Motors and Ford commissioned ideas from app makers this week, the possibilities for what you can do with your vehicles steering wheel buttons, microphone, speakers and internal gauges are quickly expanding.
How would you like to choose your favorite tune by simply uttering the songs title, turn your car into a mobile Wi-Fi hotspot, or respond to an ad you hear on the radio without lifting a finger?
At the International CES show, General Motors and Ford launched programs that will open their designs to developers, inviting them to create software applications for future car models. Its a relatively new strategy for car makers, but one that many gadget manufacturers employ, including Apple, which did it for the original iPhone in 2007.
The programs free the automakers from having to keep pace with new technologies by tying the functionality of their cars internal systems to advances in smartphones.
Ford Motor Co.s app developer program, called Sync AppLink, is a way for (the company) not to worry about the next big app, said product manager Julius Marchwicki.
General Motors Co. said its framework gives developers a whole new sandbox, with wheels.
In some ways, though, the current systems inside cars have a long ways to go to provide the functionality that smartphones have offered for years.
For instance, in a demo of Fords new integration with music service Rhapsody, you can wirelessly sync your phone with the car and listen to playlists you have already created by pressing the voice button on the steering wheel and saying play playlist 1.
But you cant just choose a track by voice on a whim, which is part of what makes these unlimited streaming plans attractive even at $10 a month.
Saying Bruno Mars to your Ford car wont pull up Locked Out of Heaven, although typing it on Rhapsodys website or smartphone app can. The same is true of Pandoras radio app in Ford cars.
General Motors showed off its new relationship with Apples Siri voice assistant, which is newly integrated in some of its cars including the Chevy Spark. Siri, however, only linked up to the cars speaker and microphone and didnt offer access to the cars inner systems.
Rhapsody CEO Jon Irwin said that its really just the beginning for automakers to work more closely with high-tech content providers.
One company called Livio was looking to drum up some business from radio stations and automakers with a prototype for embedding tiny codes inside traditional FM radio streams.
The codes would allow cell phone users to respond to advertisements with a tap on their smartphone screen. The technology could one day enable companies to send coupons through traditional FM radio stations to drivers who let them know theyre interested.
The Livio Connect system opens FM radio to two-way communication, said marketing director Nicole Yelland. No longer is it shouting at you. Theres a dialogue.
Given that Google, Toyota and others have been testing driverless cars, its not hard to imagine the day when your smartphone will hear your stomach gurgle, get Burger King to send you a coupon, and then guide the car up to the drive-thru window for a quick bite.


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USC Aiken theater students Morgan Hall, Sydney Fowler and Zac Latham are close friends – now facing surely the biggest challenge of their young careers with the award-winning drama "Frozen."
The play, produced by the University Theatre of the Department of Visual and Performing Arts, debuts Thursday at the Etherredge Center. The title stems from the idea of "frozen hope."
The story that unfolds is tragic, horrific and potentially redeeming. British woman Nancy (Hall) is a mother whose daughter goes missing and is later found murdered. She comes in contact with Agnetha (Fowler), a American psychologist who has come to England to pursue her research on serial killers and the root causes of their choices.
Latham portrays Ralph, the killer who targets young girls.
"It's a challenging show, some heavy lifting for undergraduates," said director and USCA professor Dewey Scott-Wiley. "I felt they needed to use some of the skills, as it's an intense play and requires the actors to really focus."
The play was nominated for a Tony Award in 2004. A review in "Talkin' Broadway" called "Frozen" a "powerful drama about three people living the human condition… a story that needs to continue to be told."
Hall and Fowler worked together during the past school year on "Intimate Apparel," itself a strong story involving race and hope in 1905 New York City.
"Now we're cranking the intensity to an 11," said Hall. "This is a crazy, emotional journey."
Although the lives of the three main characters do intertwine, the actors are often on stage alone, expressing aloud their thoughts, "and that's hard not to have a partner for those scenes," Hall said. "The audience is like the partner. The play is going to be amazing with a lot of big ideas."
The production asks audiences how one gets over something so traumatic – dealing with anger and grief and continuing with life without hating the person who created those awful feelings.
Unlike many plays, Latham said, there obviously was no way he could draw on real-life experiences. Instead, Latham watched movies about murderers, such as Kevin Spacey in "SeVen" and especially the cold-blooded killer played by Javier Bardem in "No Country for Old Men."
"The psychology of this goes into pretty good depth," Latham said. "No actor wants to be hated. I wanted people to like me, but my initial reaction was to be this terrible person. But he's really a guy who had a bad childhood and was brain-damaged."
As for Agnetha, Fowler said, the character is well aware of her own emotions, as she's around people who aren't conscious of what they're doing.
"She (Agnetha) spends time with people who don't recognize the consequences of their decisions," Fowler said. "But she's still aware that it doesn't change the fact that these are serial murderers."
The audience will empathize with the mother of the girl, said Scott-Wiley. Yet the play becomes more complex as it asks people to consider if Ralph's crimes are those of illness rather than evil.
"The mother wants to see him and cannot move on until she does," Scott-Wiley said. "She must learn how to deal with forgiveness and revenge and move on."
Want to attend?
• Production: The drama, "Frozen," by Bryony Lavery, produced by USC Aiken's University Theatre and directed by professor Dewey Scott-Wiley.
• Location and dates: "Frozen" will be presented at the Etherredge Center, 471 University Parkway, Thursday through Saturday at 7:30 p.m. and Sunday at 2 p.m.
• Tickets: They're $15 for general admission, $12 for seniors and faculty, and $7 for students. To reserve tickets, call the Etherredge Center at 641-3305.
• Cast members – Sydney Fowler (Agnetha), Zac Latham (Ralph), Morgan Hall (Nancy) and Alex Newton (guard, Ralph understudy).
• Advisory: This Tony Award nominated play has serious adult themes.
Staff photo by Rob Novit In this USC Aiken production of the drama Frozen, the character Nancy (Morgan Hall) confronts the murderer Ralph (Zac Latham). The play debuts at the Etherredge Center Thursday at 7:30 p.m.×


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Game 162: Yankees at Rays
September 28, 2011 – Tropicana Field – 7:10 p.m. ET (YES/ESPN, WCBS 880 AM)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano DH
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Nick Swisher RF
Andruw Jones LF
Jesus Montero C
Eduardo Nunez 2B
Dellin Betances RHP (0-0, 27.00)
Desmond Jennings LF
B.J. Upton CF
Evan Longoria 3B
Matt Joyce RF
Johnny Damon DH
Ben Zobrist 2B
Casey Kotchman 1B
Kelly Shoppach C
Reid Brignac SS
David Price LHP (12-13, 3.35)
AT A GLANCE: The Yankees will play their final regular season game tonight at Tampa Bay…are concluding the season by playing 33 games over the final 32 days of the season from 8/28-9/28, playing on 30 of those days (have gone 19-13 thus far).
Are looking to avoid getting swept in a series of more than one game for just the third time in 2011 (also 5/13-15 and 6/7-9 vs. Boston), and just the second time ever by Tampa Bay (also 9/26-28/00 at Tropicana Field)…have not been swept in a multi-game series on the road since 9/10-12/10 at Texas.
THREE AND OUT: The Yankees are the only Major League team that has not lost more than three straight road games this season.
WRAPPING IT UP: The Yankees went 6-4 in the season's final game over the last 10 years (2001-10), losing four of the last six such contests…have not ended a season on a losing streak of at least four games since 2000 (lost final seven contests).
LEAN LEFT: The Yankees are 35-16 (.686) vs. left-handed starters this season…have won seven of their last 10 and 21 of their last 29 games against lefty starters…are batting .282 (453-for-1,609) vs. LHP this season, fractionally the second-highest in the Majors behind Texas…have hit a Major League-most 67HR off LHP.
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Biggest choke of the year. Hard to believe up 7-0 inthe 8th the Yankees could lose the game whoever they had on the field. It was shocking. They handed the wild card to the Rays. I think the Rays have it to go all the way and we might wish that we hadn't let them sweep this series. Poor managing by Joe tonight I thought. Used his whole bull pen in the game and as the announcer said got "cute" in having AJ pitch one inning and using all his pitchers so he had nothing left but Proctor at the end. Hopefully this series won't carry into the playoffs.
Scutaro looks like he's just won the lottery, all his Christmases just came in and the whole lot was delivered by Megan Fox wearing nothin but a bow & a smile – he can't believe that worked!
believe it or not my best friend for the limited baseball he actually knows was a Red Sox fan (although i doubt that's still the case now – his football allegience is Man United, who notoriously hate Liverpool, John Henry's plaything) – but i can't bring myself to root for Boston! Problem is they've dug a hole for themselves and well, it's just went a few inches deeper thanks to JJ Hardy!
I'm on the Boston game tonight and honestly there's not anyone in the Boston dugout who don't look as if they're feeling the pressure – they've just went 1-0 up through Pedroia's single. It's rare you'll find me (outside Yankee games) want Lester to get bashed up but i'd rather see Tampa Bay go into October than Boston!


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Today I picked up the first edition (May 2010) of a new UK family history magazine Your Family History. It is published by Wharncliffe Publishing Ltd and is an unofficial successor to the discontinued Ancestors magazine (it also has the same cover price of £3.99).
At first glance it is very similar in appearance to Ancestors and has all the features you would expect from a family history magazine, such as news, internet news, reviews, lists of events and courses.
There are some interesting articles in this first edition. Of topical interest is an article on the genealogy of the three main candidates in the 2010 Election. On the practical side there is a beginner's guide to making a video biography.
I was intrigued by the article on the supposed failed German invasion on the Suffolk coast (Shingle Street) in 1940. It certainly made me interested in reading more about the story and will check my local library for some of the material mentioned in the article.
This first issue has a Spotlight on Sussex which I was naturally drawn to. It contains details of the three main archives in Sussex, the West Sussex Record Office, the East Sussex Record Office and the Brighton History Centre. There is also an article on the private archives of Hatfield House, Hertfordshire.
The theme of archives continues in The Last Word, where Nick Barratt (Editor-in-Chief) reminds us that our archives and local study centres are in danger of closure and cuts, and need our support to ensure their survival.
It is an encouraging first issue, a worthy successor to Ancestors. There is a good selection of experts (who we are introduced to in this first issue) writing on a wide range of subjects and answering readers queries
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Lets gooooo. Let us prove haters wrong. Let us come out and make Indiana think about us when we get to the finals and if they make it. Let us prove we are title contenders!!
Beating them without our floor general sure would be sweet!!!!
it almost seems as if the loss of Redick was a bigger detriment than losing Paul. And as you start to examine the games you see why. Griffin and Collison can both distribute the ball very well and combined its seems as if their passing ability can equal what Paul does alone. Shooting, however, is a different story because no one can do what Redick does. Crawford can carry a team offensively but it takes him many shots to do it and Dudley can shoot the three at high percentage but rarely shoots. You can see how much Redick does for this team, and frankly I would not be surprised if we come out of Indy with a win.
David, we seem to have 2 games threads now.
Well they have only lost wha, t 1 or 2 at home (?),so they are due.
Lance Stephenson is like 2 Face. Some nights he's LeBron James and others he's J.R. Smith.
Please Lance, be J.R. Smith tonight.
Indiana is due to lose at home, lol. Why not this game? It would be super awesome to win against the mighty Indiana Pacers. Clippers can capitalize on the Pacers' turnovers. This looks to be a very tough game, but I hope the Clips can pull out a win somehow.
Pacers / Clippers are around the same level if you only compare perimeter players. It all depends on whether Blake / DJ can outplay Hibbert, West, Scola.
We definitely can win tonight. On the "road trip" thread I was thinking 6-1 with our only loss being against George and the pacers depending on how we started the road trip....I really liked what I saw last night. We need Blake to show up tonight because he was quiet last time we played them and we just need to contain George. He's a pure scorer, we can't stop him but we can slow him down. As for lance Stephenson I agree with CapsNClips... whether we get lebron or smith tonight though he is EXTREMELY turnover prone.
I'm excited. ...I have to work tonight but I will definitely be ' hardly working ' instead of a hard worker tonight haha I work at Cicispizza so I will have the game on for sure! LETS GO CLIPS!!!!!!
Slim chance (Clippers +9) we win tonight and if that's the case hope it's gets out of hand early so we can rest the starters. Sorta a back handed Pop move.
Yesterdays game was a mere warmup drill compared to what is to come today, Indiana starters are great at all positions so we have to play a perfect game to pull this one out, leggo clips!
Even though Marc Davis is reffing tonight, I predict Clippers win by 6. Lets get it!
Yes the clippers are going to come out on fire JJ and Jamel will have there best gm all yr ,watch the clippers win by 10 !! Who is with me ???
Oh me oh my, I see a "dump it all" in bet there, LOL...but I will not bet against the Clippers. Damn.
We got this! Lets Go Clips!
I have a great feeling Clippers come on top. I predict someone steps up big time. Maybe Hedo gives Scola a fit and Hedo scores about 10-12. Someone steps up big tonight and the Clippers win
The height difference between Smith and Fratello, sheesh!
Lets GO!!!!
Can't turn back now,and away we go
Second night of a back to back against a team 20-1 at home, so no big deal if we lose, but will be big accomplishment if we can gut out a win.
Good job in the early going at the defensive end by DJ.
Dudl3y three!!!
This guys are crazy long!!!
Great shot by Blake inside.
Not a bad start so far
Good start, Clips!
OH no!!!
JJ down.
well that effing figures
J.J. better not be injured
Come on!
Payback times guys
When did the rules change that when hitting someone in the jaw nets you a free throw
Hope jj is cool
I am probably just seeing things but it seems like they get to shove people around a lot for no calls
Dj doing a good job on the boards
Oh man. I hope JJ is okay.
NO. No. It is not you. I see the same thing. But as we know, we are the Clippers. A jaw gets you two freebies, and a touch foul gets you an and-1.
Well there we have it,another hurt guard.
refs are going to cost us this game
how dumb can we be to think you going to do some damn finger rolls in the lane on Hibbert, it's so freaking stupid, atleast just try to get it on the backboard real fast and get the goal tend. Freaking tell these guys something coaches
How is jj?
5 Blocks for Hibbert. 5 blocks.
Jamal should have moved to open space for Collison
DJ is guarding Hibbert well, but that was kind of unlucky
well duh,MArc Davis,Indiana "the chosen ones",nothing there to go our way at all
YOu mean he gets credit for blocking our guys out of the way with a shove and taking the ball
I guess so. I have only seen two of them.
I have to see that again....looks like Blake came in like a linebacker trying to tackle whoever that was trying to stop DJ
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Set it to DVR the next hour to Sportscenter on ESPN. I guess Blake Griffin just went on there and said he's tired of being called soft and will fight anybody who wants it. At least that's the Twitter paraphrasing I saw. It will be on again in 40 minutes, 9:15 Pacific time about.
I doubt that, since he was just at Billups' camp.
WTH? Put what on DVR? BG went on where? What are you talking about?
Will have video soon, will edit that out if it's false.
Had it in title, accidentally edited it out, now put it back in. Sportscenter at 9:25 ish it should be back on. He had an interview on ESPN specifically addressing the soft thing people have been attacking him about.
Coming on now.
His answers were soft.
Gah pretty uneventful. Talked about Doc more than fighting. All he said about fighting was nobody has come and challenged him off the court that calls him soft.
86 pulling through in the clutch AGAIN!
He didn't say nobody has challenged him, I thought he said if anybody were to challenge his toughness, he'd be happy to oblige, but off the court.
I really don't understand what people want Blake to do. He's not a Safety or LineBacker in the NFL that can take your head off just because you called him soft. Blake just needs to let his plays do the talking. He just needs to improve his game even more so he can play consistently and shut people up.
He said the right things in my opinion. I rather have a PF that concentrates on his game than a player worrying about if he's being called soft and feeling like he has to improve it by getting suspended. Getting suspended hurts your team. It's almost the same as starting a game but stinking it up, and whenever a player does that, the fans want their heads.
It's just Stephen A Smith giving a couple of D-bags too much press...unfortunately at Blake's expense.
They showed it again, and this time I noticed he mentioned, "I don't want to get suspended". Getting suspended hurts your team. It's almost the same as starting a game but stinking it up, and whenever a player does that, the fans want their heads.
Blake is not soft,his parents raised him the right way,he has the right values within his personality.
damn, i missed. anyone have a vid link?
The whole "soft" thing is just a way for nba players and their fans to cope with the fact Blake is continually posterizing them to the point of embarrassment.
Blake does need to play more physical at times..
Blake is not soft at all, but he might need to retaliate and take a suspension to send a message to players that he won't put up with the cheap shots anymore. Blake has a laid back demeanor but he doesn't shy away from contact and he's constantly banging in the paint so I definitely don't think he's soft at all.
Players need to just play.
We're talking about the NBA here, where players that flop are rewarded more than a player that will "retaliate and take a suspension to send a message". Why hurt your team by missing games? Dirty players will play dirty no matter what you do.
If a player knows they can get one of the team's best players suspended, they'd probably provoke him more.
Blake's game changed the moment he stopped being the first option. He is not soft in any aspect of his game, but he needs to be more assertive on defense and hit someone with an elbow ''accidentally'' from time to time so everybody, who thinks he is soft shut up!
Blake should just punch Stephen A Smith, solves a lot issues.
Protect the rim and dish out hard fouls and the talk will stop
Can someone please post a video for those of us who are not staring at the tv all night long lol
They would just think he's soft and dirty, lol
Hard fouls are overrated, and the soft talk is nonsense.
One part of the video but not soft part. Will keep looking for it.
LOL, they're going to talk about it on First Take.
Blake needs to slap both of these clowns.
And he plays basketball,not street/thug ball.
Who cares about the talks. Hard fouls doesn't make you tough... I rather people say Blake is soft than a dirty player.
I like his mindset now, how he just wants to get better. Blake can smile all game long, dishing out compliments, shaking hands, as long as he's scoring points and grabbing rebounds.
Stephen A actually giving good stuff on this on First Take. He's basically saying he's not trying to disrespect Blake and he knows how strong and macho Blake is... he just means Blake needs to be more aggressive. He said Blake will and can change but needs to stop folding when teams get physical with him. So again they don't mean physical as in a fight fight.. they more mean he needs to stop getting passive and getting "punked". He needs to pull a Duncan and just become so damn good that teams give up on messing with him.
Skip did his usual piss on Griffin thing. Good thing is both guys think Doc is the best coach in the game and said they guarantee Doc is going to find the "dog" within Griffin this year.
The problem is they seem to imply that getting punked affects Blake's play. I take issue with this. In fact, I've cited examples where Blake has actually answered back with his game when players have taken cheap shots. Yet, there's nobody on the show who's actually watched enough Clipper games to bring this up. Also there's nobody there to point out that Blake is initiating a lot of this physical contact which pisses these players off even more. The misperception is frustrating.
Drop 40 on the Grizz next season and thay would show me something.
Are they even sure Randolph was talking to Blake? Seem like him and DJ was into it
Of course they're correct, Blake is a mental midget. But I don't like how they keep saying stuff. Almost trying to force Blake to act like a thug. Randolph is clearly jealous of Blake. He replaced him in LA and usually makes the Alal Star team and all nba team over him. Randolph was classless at the end of that series. And he kept throwing shots vs OKC by pumping up Perk and Ibaka and putting down Blake.
I too think he should've reacted to Randolph if he said all those things. He had aessed up anlle, so maybe that was the reason. He had way too many games scoring under 20pts last yr. That really needs to change.
Unfortunately the only way to lose this perception is for Blake to knock somebody the eff out or if the Clippers win. Stephen A did say he is interviewing Paul today and will ask him about Blake. Hopefully Paul will have a different perspective on all this.
Blake should just say before our first game against Memphis that he hates them, and then go out there and drop 35 on them or something.
Agree. He responds by being timid especially in the play off
When you say "especially in the playoff" you mean this year's playoffs. And it's easy to say that when Blake's hampered by an ankle sprain in the middle of the series. Again, I cite last year's playoffs where he played much better...before that injury.
The injuries are a different matter. He needs to figure out a way to stay healthy in the post season.
Does anyone read my examples?
my problem is that they didn't acknowledge the fact that blake answered to every one of zbo's physical attacks in the playoffs.
I agree.
they claim ZBo was calling a Blake a p#$$ and b#tch to his face and he just sat on the bench. Guess he coulda ran out on the court like a wrestler and powerbombed him. I just remember ZBo and DJ yelling at each other. Maybe DJ was defending BG, he was sitting right next to him.
The problem is not whether Blake talks back or cheap-shots someone. His play becomes less aggressive once the physical play begins. Blake loves to SLAM-DUNK, but if you notice he does not even dunk hard if ZBO is in the game.
LOL i was called a Laker fan when i said Blake is soft, now we have a thread dedicated to it.
Pay special attention to what Chris Webber says at the 3 minute mark.
How many others want to comment out of their a$$?
Exactly! He can't win because if he gets in people's faces and retaliates he is a thug and a cancer. No matter what he will be hated on by some
All this chatter will only help Blake Griffin in the end, criticism is only motivation to a guy that works hard
Avoid practicing with Lamar Odom?
Why does he always conveniently get hurt when his game is being questioned? It's like a built in excuse. How about refine his game so he actually has a back up plan when he's not getting lobs. Part of him being injured I believe is that he panics when things aren't going his way and he tries to do something that he knows he can't.


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I am looking for a new gun don't care what brand and was looking for a semi auto. I want a gun that wont jam and will be reliable in all conditions. have looked at the Remington Versamax but don't know. any suggestions.
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I want a gun that wont jam and will be reliable in all conditions.
Ha! Good Luck! Pretty high standards, but I'll say the A400 Xtreme or Beretta 3901.
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I have shot my Maxus in the rain, snow, 90+ degrees, single digits, target load, 3.5" magnums, the whole deal. I haven't looked back, and would suggest it to anyone who likes the way it feels.
That said, I'm sure there are lots of other guys on here who will say the exact same thing about their own guns!
The age old advice you'll find time and time again...try them out, shoulder a whole bunch and pick the one that fits and feels the best for your purposes!
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Tall order is right!! I sent my Maxus back to Browning for the third time two weeks ago same issue trigger. They tell me they have a new trigger now. I just got back from Saskat last night. One of the guys new Benelli SB II was basically a single shot the whole trip . I love the Maxus nice and light swings great but with the failure to fire and the gun being inoperable nopw three times my confidence is gone. Good luck hope whatever you get its a good one for you Joe
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And my year old new SBE 2 has worked just fine so there you go.
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I have been playing this game for 52 years, from Canada to the Gulf Coast. I have hunted in snow, ice, rain, marsh mud, rice fields, and salt water. In all of the hunting I have done I have seen every auto made break down or turned into a single shot gun. I am not knocking the auto loaders but this is the facts. Someday someplace you will be on a real good hunt and the gun will fail I have watched guys trying to get the gun working and missing great shooting( happend last Sunday the last day of Teal hunting in Texas) the man missed two groups and we got four out of each and with his gun we would have had more.
With that said I will say it just like I have many times on this forum and others SHOOT A PUMP OR A STACKER.
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You can ask this question to 25 people and get 25 different answers. I have an original Beretta Xtrema and I love it. I've used it for doves to swans and literally everything in between. My only complaint is it's a little heavy to be carrying all day if you are chasing pheasants or grouse but that is a problem you will have with a lot of automatics. I can count on 1 hand the number of hangups I've had with it in 10 years and admittedly I have not been real diligent with cleaning it. I have used it when it was 95 degrees for doves, -10 after geese and any weather imaginable and it has performed virtually flawlessly. This is just my very biased opinion but my best advice is to go to a gun shop and handle a couple different guns and see what feels good, or ask to shoot one of your buddies guns and see what works best for you.
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^ yup, I agree with you 100%. Maybe slide DJ into the bronze, he did a good job on Love from what I saw.
Clippers Vs. Thunder - 2013-11-21
Gold: Chris Paul - Finally breaks his cold streak and adds another double-double to his tally.
Silver: Blake Griffin - His shot looked good in the second half, even dominated the game for some stretches.
Bronze: Jamal Crawford - No one else really stepped up.
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Platinum Medal
Gold Medal
27 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals...what am I missing?
Clippers Vs. Kings - 2013-11-23
Gold: Chris Paul - His double-double streak ends, but not his play. Knocked down the game-winning free-throw.
Silver: DeAndre Jordan - Great game, just couldn't hit his free-throws.
Bronze: Jared Dudley - Makes a big three near the end of the game, including 11 points and 2 assists and rebounds.
Bronze goes to Reddick I think .
I believe bronze can go to both Dudley and Reddick as they both contributed in the game but Dudley's 3 at the fourth was huge for us.
Yes Dudley finally had a good game. I would say he gets Bronze though its close.
Clippers Vs. Kings - 2013-11-24
Gold: Chris Paul - 17 assists. Insane.
Silver: Jared Dudley - His first big game of the year with 21 points.
Bronze: J.J. Redick - Our two wings scored very well in this game, 19 for J.J.
I guess honorable mention for the guy who gave us 15 points, 12 rebounds 3 blocks and a steal.
Meh! ...is that all?
Medals all around!
Better still!
another solid performance by our wings
i would of given another medal to blake as well
Clippers Vs. Knicks - 2013-11-27
Gold: Blake Griffin - It was difficult to determine a gold winner, but Griffin played harder than anyone else.
Silver: Jamal Crawford - Stepped in when Chris Paul was out. Made the baskets down the stretch.
Bronze: Chris Paul - Great all-around, 15 points, 7 assists, 2 steals, and 5 rebounds.
Sneaky good game from DJ and Jamison was +25.
Both guys deserve a mention.
Gold-Collison: Held it down and managed the team nicely. I'm happy for Bledsoe to have his chance but I'm loving having another scoring option on the bench. His defense is not all that bad either.
Silver-Jamison: As soon as he came into the game for Blake he just seemed to bring a jolt of energy that led to a run. Not only once but twice for Blake when staters struggled.
Bronze-Jordan/Crawford/Redick- The three had decent games help close out.
The starters played like crap energy and focus wise.
If we sign Odom we are gonna have to hide our After The Game Medals or else he'll sell 'em for crack.
My Gold goes to DJ- Allot of Offensive Rebounds, Kept the knicks out of the paint for the 2nd half of the game, and was just a presence on D.
Silver, Jamal Crawford-Blake Griffen, Crawford did a great job Passing, taking care of the Ball and finishing the Game out, and he was solid on D vs JR. Smith/Hardaway Jr./Shumpert. Blake for his Defense in the 2nd Half, and all out Hustle.
Bronze, Ryan Hollins, for simply limiting his mistakes, He still can't catch the ball though.
I liked it better when he was addicted to candy :/.
Clippers Vs. Kings - 2013-11-29
Platinum: Jamal Crawford - CP3 like performance here. No Crawford, no win.
Gold: DeAndre Jordan - Rebounded well and defended Cousins as best he could. 9 blocks? Haven't seen that since the pre-season.
Silver: Blake Griffin - Sneaks in a quiet 20-10 game. Still would have liked for him to have more of a presence.
Bronze: J.J. Redick - Got to give it to him for 13 points in 16 minutes.
I have DJ for plat instead of Crawford. Crawford was great but I think 9 blocks and 15 boards(6 offensive boards) is worth a bit more.
I like the JJ recognition...he was kinda taking over before the injury.
All while only picking up ONE foul in an Overtime game. Incredible
JJ was missing some outside shots that he'd normally make, but yeah he was finding other ways to score by his constant movement. I thought he and Jamal worked really well together in the backcourt- a very dangerous combination.
That's just it. He wasn't necessarily on fire, but he was kinda wreaking havoc out there with his shots in motion and drawing fouls. He was really active...which is why it sucks he'll be out for who knows how long.
I can't believe it. Your avatar has changed......................................I am in shock
You are no longer represented by a 70's vinyl cover (making you unique), you have joined the rest of us.
JJ is a dude though!!
Ha ha! I actually was about to change to CCR's Willy and the Poor Boys album, but decided I would go with JJ until his wrist heals. So be prepared! LOL
I was wanting to change mine but had to get my girlfriend to do it for me as she is better with the old IT than me. But she forgot how she did it last time and couldn't manage to get the images I found small enough to work. So for now it's grinning Blake for me.
I did a google image search and clicked "search tools", then "size", then "exactly" and plugged in 200x200. Found what I was looking for.
I could agree if it wasn't for those 11 assists.
That means crawford scored 31 and was direct involved in another 22 pts
So 53 points involved crawford directly. That's basically half.
Is that windows cos I have a mac.
Yeah I have windows.
Clippers Vs. Pacers - 2013-12-01
Gold: Chris Paul - Fantastic come-back game against tough-defense.
Silver: Blake Griffin - His 10th double-double including 2 assists and a steal.
Bronze: Jamal Crawford - Not quite the game he had against the Kings, but he still proved he can score with 20 points.
I think Bullock had a break out game. As well, I think Doc was a fool to take him out for Collison in the end.
Rather than crawford-collison-Paul, I think we should have ran Bullock-Crawford-paul. Also think Bullock should start and pick up the toughest mark.
Paul gold? never!
Sure he was injured, but he lost the game in the end. Crawford was the man who scored before. In this situation he should take the shots in the last minutes.
And Paul has to score more in the beginning of the game, always too unselfish. The bench was better this time.
Clippers Vs. Hawks - 2013-12-04
Gold: Blake Griffin - Great scoring from the first to the last quarters. 7 boards an 4 assists.
Silver: Jamal Crawford - Scored great in the first half. Would have liked to see more in the second half.
Bronze: Chris Paul - Despite a near 20-10 game, his performance was pretty meh.
Clippers Vs. Grizzlies - 2013-12-05
Gold: Blake Griffin - Despite scoring just 14 points, he was all over the place; 9 rebounds and 5 assists.
Silver: Chris Paul - Really took over the game in the 3rd quarter, allowing the starters to sit.
Bronze: Darren Collison - Very efficient scoring his 15 points going 6-9 from the field.
Where the heck is DJ? No way does BG get it over DJ.
10 points, 14 boards(4 offensive), 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks.
To me DJ was our MVP tonight.
Clippers Vs. Cavaliers - 2013-12-07
Gold: Chris Paul - Puts in a quiet 15 assists to go along with 6 rebounds and 13 points.
Silver: DeAndre Jordan - A similar night such as the one against the Grizzlies. This time he gets a nod for a medal.
Bronze: Willie Green - The always ready Willie knocks down 2 three-balls and 4 rebounds.
I say we hand out no medals for that "effort".
Clippers Vs. Sixers - 2013-12-09
Gold: Chris Paul - As usual, closed down the stretch, making huge baskets for us.
Silver: Blake Griffin - I got to hand it to Blake over DeAndre, despite both playing well. 26 points and 8 rebounds.
Bronze: DeAndre Jordan - 21 rebounds? Close to his career high.
I agree with what you have.
I'd give Blake gold and Paul silver. Blake came up with some timely defensive plays and his decision making was outrageous.
I think DJ's consistent effort and influence on D (including securing defensive rebounds) should take silver. All around good game by our main men, though.
lol, that's funny. Yup, sometimes there shouldn't be any
Clippers Vs. Nets - 2013-12-13
Gold: Blake Griffin - Everyone had an ugly night, but at least he got a double-double.
Silver: DeAndre Jordan - Another great rebounding night with 12 rebounds.
Bronze: Antawn Jamison - I had a tough time picking the bronze medal. Antawn came out hot early, so he deserved it.
Mullens for Gold.
Clippers Vs. Spurs - 2013-12-13
Gold: Blake Griffin - Hustled like no bodies' business, high scorer of the game with 27 points.
Silver: Chris Paul - Our two stars certainly shined in the game. Chris surprisingly with more rebounds than assists.
Bronze: Stephen Jackson - The newest Clipper had the highest +/- of the game and made most of his baskets.