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As a whole our defense seems to be getting better as the season goes along, and I find that to be very encouraging...especially after Vinny Del Negro.
I don't think we should ever make any defensive judgement on pts allowed because pace affects points allowed. Clippers are 11th in pts allowed per possession, the defense at it's max this season I believe was 7th or so in pts allowed per possession. The defense dropped after CP got injured, hopefully there is an upward swing again.
The Clippers have shown in pockets of time in some quarters that they can lock down on defense. Doc's system is there. The team just needs to bring it on for the full 48 minutes of play from here on out. I think they'll do it, especially with CP3 back.
Points allowed is a completely meaningless stat because it doesn't factor in pace. If you have a very slow team like Indiana vs us for example, there is a HUGE disparity in possessions. Use defensive efficiency ranking which has us at the 11th ranked D.
Basketball Reference Clippers team page is most accurate.
Yea, pts allowed just doesn't add the context part to it. For example, it suggests that the Knicks are a better defensive team than the Clippers, and no one actually believes that. When we look at Drtg, Knicks are 25th and giving up 108.4 pts/100, about 4 more pts every 100 possessions than the Clippers, but they are the 3rd slowest team in the league, so their pts allowed playing 5 less possessions a game looks nice, but means nothing in terms of who is defending better.
Pts allowed also says that Utah, the 2nd worst team in the league in Drtg defends as well as the Clippers, giving up 0.2 less PPG. Again, none of is would come to that conclusion watching the teams and that is because Utah plays 4 less possessions a game than LAC. So in 4 less possessions, they give up only 0.2 less points, that in itself should easily tell us who is defending better.
Good point. They need time to make it consistent, make it second nature.
If we can get good, really good, defensively then we can really go far, what with the talent we have offensively.
Our Defense continues to improve. We would probably be higher if
we didn't have so many injuries.
Cp3 and Reddick are 2 of our best defenders
and both have missed significant time.
DJ is continuing to improve and by playoff time
he could be locking down the paint with
the best of them.
Only thing is right now he doesn't get the benefit of the calls
like Hibbert and Dwight. He can go str8 up and still get a foul.
Hibbert can bust you upside the head and get a no call.
Hopefully that will change.
It's not meaningless. Points allowed takes all teams and paces of those matchups and averages them out to give you well, an average. It's a simpler method but I think it gives a pretty good idea of where that team is. You might say you like a more advanced stat but both work just fine.
I don't really follow points allowed per game since teams play different pace. Only defensive stat I look at is points per 100 possessions, and we're 8th in that.
Points allowed is too variable to be any sort of end point, and it is only one aspect of defensive analysis. I think it is only a problem if used as the sole marker for defense. No matter how we slice it, if we play 5 more possessions a game (technically 10 total as each team gets 5 more) than another team on average, we just aren't that likely to have a lower opponent PPG even if we close out better, limit percentages better, rebound better, rotate better, everything that objectively says better defense.
Even pts/possession, I don't like to use as a be all / end all. I like to look at what is a teams defensive strength. There are defensive strengths that are more sustainable over a wide variety of opponents and ones that can boost your ranking but are more effective against weaker teams but not that good against high level teams.
At 95 possessions a game, if you hold opponents to a great 1 pt/possession, they score 95 pts. A team playing 90 possessions a game would only have to hold their opponents to 1.06 pts/possession to get the same result. This means that in the games they play 95 possessions like your average, they on average give up 100.7 pts/game, 5.7 more points than you, but PPG said they were just as good on defense. It also means on average when you play 90 possessions a game, you give up only 90 points, but again, PPG said they were just as good of a defense.
There is where my problem lies with PPG ranking. It forgets that FG%, 3PT%, turnovers, defensive rebounding and how much you foul exists and just sort of says here are the unfiltered results and this is supposed to rank teams.
It's also why I don't buy ranking teams offensively by PPG. If you play a lot of possessions, you don't have to score well on those possessions to score a lot of points. Philly is an excellent example as they go out flying with their pace and score 100 pts/game, but they play 100.3 possessions a game. That's not actually impressive, at all. They are the 29th ranked team in Ortg and when you watch them you aren't impressed by their putrid offense, but because they push as much as possible and jack shots, they'll be in the high 90's and 100's every game, making it seem like they are doing something impressive until you look and see they are last in 3PT%, the most turnover prone team in the league! bottom 5-7 in FG% and in drawing fouls! and suddenly you start to question whether this team is actually 16th best offensive team in the league as PPG would suggest and better than teams like the Raptors or more like one of the worst.
.Clippers opponents:
44.5% FG, 32.5% 3PT, 13.8% tov, .222 FT/FGA, 72.6% Defensive rebounds, 100.6 opponent PPG
Jazz Opponents:
46.2% FG, 35.2% 3PT, 12.0% tov, .230 FT/FGA, 73.8% Defensive rebounds, 100.3 opponent PPG
Clippers hold opponents to lower percentages, turn them over more, foul less, only grab 1% less defensive rebounds, wouldn't it be a bit weird for all that to mean that the Clippers just defend as well as Utah? I think so, what do you guys think?
I wouldn't call PPG useless, we need it for differential, but it's certainly not accurate in representing defense or defensive ability over different paces, and pace doesn't normalize over the league for every team. I think it can be good at giving us an idea of pace, but we already have better measures of pace, so why use that? It can give us an idea of defense among teams with similar pace, but not so good with the teams outside of the same pace range, so with all the varying pace, why use it when we can just use a pts/possession defensive ranking? It's really just giving ourselves a lot more work to try and use PPG to rank defense or something like pace.
So I'm fine with someone mentioning it in the midst of some sort of whole context view, but in the sense of "this is where we rank in PPG and this reflects our defensive ranking", I don't really get how that actually works without adding all the other variables, and that's just a lot of unnecessary work. I'd rather go with percentages (eFG%), or better, opponent TS% because fouling a lot (eg vs. Memphis) is also very bad defense if I wanted to use one number to get a decent idea, but again, when something like pts/possession is so readily available, why not just look at that.
Not looking at the stats, I just feel like the defense late in games is not as good as it should be. I can remember quite a few "must get a stop" possessions where either the opponent scored easily or secured the offensive rebound.
Depends on how good you believe it should be and what opponents we are referring to. Defense has certainly been up and down, but our late game defense is much improved from last season. I do agree though, were not an elite defensive team if that is what you mean, not necessarily very good recently either.
I guess in the end, I'm just not going to be convinced that because PPG says so, teams like the Jazz, Knicks, Nets and Celtics are better on defense than the Clippers. Celtics are actually decent too, but those other teams, no way,they just play walk it up basketball.
The Clippers defense isn't elite though, but yes, it also isn't that bad, it's above average to good right now when we want to be in the very good to elite range, so there's work to be done defensively.
The old Celtics teams with Bill Russell show why it's important to consider pace, if you just look at raw points per game they like nothing special, but once you adjust for them playing at the fastest pace in the league, you find out that they were a dominant defensive team year and year out every year with Russell. For example the 58-59 team allowed 109 points a game, third highest in league, but per 100 possessions they allowed only 84.5, best in the league by nearly 5 points.
Our defensive FG% is a pretty solid 6th place at 48%... it's the rebounding and extra possessions that kill us. We have the best individual rebounder in the league, but we're 19th with a negative differential. That shouldn't happen.
I disagree. Pts allowed is a general view of what a team is giving up on average based on the teams they've played. That in and of itself is a marker on how much a team gives up on average taking into consideration all teams and what pace they play. Now, some teams can dictate their pace over others and if you want to know that specific stat, then you look that specific game to see who dictated the game. If you want to know what a team gives up on average, as a raw stat, then you look at Points Allowed. Now, that doesn't give you a clear picture of how good the defense is, but it is assumed.
Points/possession isn't a clear indicator on how well a team plays defense either. All it does is tell how many points per possession you're giving up and then implying that the defense is responsible for that without looking into why it is. Both Points allowed and pts./pos do the same thing. Neither one is more valuable than the other because neither one paints the perfect picture.
If you want to measure by possessions as a means to rate the defense, then you use pts/pos.. If you want to go by game outcomes, then you use Points allowed.
Hollins can't rebound, Jamison can't rebound, Mullens can't do anything, Dudley can't rebound. Hopefully we trade a combination of these so called NBA players for 1 or 2 players that can rebound.
Once we get somebody other than BG & DJ that can rebound I think we become unstoppable. But there's 2 problems
Problem #1: Who the hell would want any of those players?
Problem #2: Who the hell would want any of those players while also giving up players that actually do things?
No it doesn't. You want to know FG%, 3pt%, TO, and defensive rebounding? You have the raw stats for those too. lol
we're talking about points allowed, that is it's own stat. If I want to know how well we defend the 3pt'er, I'll look at the stat. It's not that it forgets it, it's that those other stats have their own place.
Clippers also allow more FGA than Utah at a slightly worse % but not much of a difference. They also allow more 3pta than Utah does.
Our defense ain't bad, but it ain't great either, especially if you measure it against Docs old Boston teams which were usually in top 3 points allowed in the league.
Stats and figures are all good and well but my concern is against the elite teams, indivually we don't match up very well, other than Jordan our team is 'short'. We will struggle to contain players like Durant, Westbrook, LA, Harden and if we get as far as the finals Lebron, George.
Our defense isn't the problem, our rebounding is. Everyone makes a big deal about DJ's boards, and his stats are impressive, but rebounding is a team effort and we are just not getting it done as a team. There have been games, recent games, where we give up way too many offensive rebounds. Just last week, I think it was against Miami, we gave up 3 offensive rebounds on missed 2nd free throws, which is just inexcusable. One of the dangers of playing so quick and always looking for a quick outlet pass to get out in transition is that players don't crash the defensive glass. I think sometimes we gotta be willing to surrender the fast break if it means limiting the opposing team to a one shot possession.
Good points. You're right, our rebounding of late has been pretty sketchy. I really hope our guards and SF step up their rebounding efforts. At CP3, who is a good rebounder for a short PG, is back in the lineup. My question is: How is the 6 foot Chris Paul averaging 4.6 rebs to the 6 foot 7 Dudley's 2.2? Dudley needs to step it up as we get close to the playoffs.
In general we can all agree I'm sure with the premise. We are a solid to good defensive team. But with our coaching staff and players we should be much better.
Interesting, well I'm glad it works for you, though for me it doesn't give much of a representation of defensive ability except for just telling me a fact of this is how many points given up a game. Are you giving up those points because you don't defend well or because you play a lot of possessions, it doesn't tell me any of that.
Looking at the bolder part, didn't you just say the same thing I was saying? In terms of pts/possession implying that the defense is responsible, sure, it could be bad offense, but when our sample is 50+ games, of you are consistently doing something! the outliers don't have large weight. So yes, pts/possession over a couple of games would need more analysis of why, but over a large sample, we start to remove the noise, so it's fine. That's really true with every stat though, so I don't think any of us disagree there.
I agree that neither paints the perfect picture, and I said the same thing myself in my post, though in terms of rating defensive ability,mid have to respectfully disagree that they are both equally as efficacious. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point.
I thought we were talking about defense as the thread title stated, and Voyeur represented out defense by pints allowed, in which me and 86 and some others said points allowed is not a very good indicator.
I'm talking about defense at least. Defense isn't just how many points you allow. Defense really is just how effectively you allow to opponent to score. You defend well when you cause someone to score less effectively than their average ability.
In a singular game, both teams will have the same amount of possessions. Offensive rebounds aren't a new possession, they are an extension of a possession. A points allowed representing defense model says that if I allow 94 points in an 80 possession game, I defended better than if I allow 97 points in a 90 possession game, but everything within us sort of says huh? But how? Why?
Maybe you're discussing a different point that I was trying to address.
Don't negate small percentage differences. The difference in the Clippers and Jazz FG%, that measly 2% is the difference of 4 PPG on 80 FGA/G. That's a very big deal and shouldn't be brushed to the side, and the 3PT% difference would add about another 1 PPG over 20 or so 3PT attempts.
Those small percentages make a big difference in winning or losing games and in your defensive ability. The ability to consistently, the consistency being the key word, cause the average opposition to miss 2 more FGA/G than someone else can is a huge deal. That's really the difference between one teams defense and another, it's just the consistency to grab that 1-2 more rebounds that would have been offensive rebounds, to better contest that 8 more shots, 2 more each quarter that leads to 2 more misses over the whole game, to avoid one more silly foul. It's little things that if you consistently do add up to better defense.
What does it mean to "give up" more FGA. The Clippers want to play with pace, so they will give up more FGA than a team that wants to play slower, it's just natural. If you score quicker even if your opponent uses the whole clock, they will still end up playing more possessions in that game than if they played against someone else who also uses a ton of time to score. If they play more possessions, they will attempt more FGA. Your goal is to limit the FGM, not really the FGA because you can only force so many turnovers, and he only other way to limit FGA would be to play slower which would go against what you want to do if you want to push the ball. So in the end it's about who can limit scoring the best relative to possession because possessions will change per game, and can be vastly different per team, but who consistently over possessions can limit the opposition better.
Anyways, as long as what you're using works for you and makes sense and matches with what is actually happening, but if were talking defense, Utah is terrible and not anywhere close to the Clippers, that I know for sure, lol
Paul's injury didn't help and we still lack that high level defensive wing player, but I think as the team is, elite might be hard without a big who can defend well off the bench (Hollins fouls too much which gives up FT's and hurts defense and can't defensive rebound) and a high level wing defender.
The team can be in the top 7 range though, so we'll see how they fight to get there the rest of the way.
I don't think we have much in terms of good defensive players. Paul was out 20 games. Redick was out 25+ games which doesn't help.
DJ and BG are capable defenders. Barnes is so-so at best this season. Dudley is passable. The rest of our team is mediocre defensively at best. Well Hedo is solid defensively this season but that is about it.
Is our defense decent? Sure. is it good enough to win a championship? I'd say no. However, with this many injuries to our starting players its going to be difficult to determine what the teams ceiling is.
Barnes and Dudley had a combined 2 rebounds tonight against the Spurs. 2!!! How are our SFs so useless not only on the boards, but on offense too?
Yeah this game was frustrating. Especially in the defensive rebounding department. Everyone had their moments of staring at the ball. I only watched the second half, but saw perimeter players from the spurs come in and grab rebounds with ease.


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A group of design engineers in Los Angeles are working on creating a 300-foot-tall clock built into the side of a mountain in West Texas. A giant, 9-foot-tall pendulum will swing back and forth with slow ticks and tocks, and at noon each day, the clock will chime, each time with a unique string of notes.
The 10,000-year clock is a project directed by the Long Now Foundation, a San Francisco-based group that is devoted to fostering long-term thinking. Plans include clocks and library projects. "This is a project designed to foster long-term thinking -- to make us look many years into the future," Jascha Little, mechanical engineer with the Long Now Foundation, said in an interview.
Given the long-term view, a clock that needs to last 10,000 years is quite a bit different from most design engineering projects. "This is a big change in the engineering mindset," Luke Khanlian, a design engineer with the Long Now Foundation, told us. "Im used to building things that work for weeks or months. This is supposed to work for a very long time."
A clock that will tick and tock consistently, across thousands of years, will need a very reliable power source. The clock will be powered in a couple ways. "The energy is stored in a mass that is lifted -- a large stone that is lifted by drives the gears. Someone has to wind it up," said Little. "One of the more ambitious tasks is to design it to harvest energy from the change in temperature from day to night. There is not a lot of energy in that, but clocks dont need that much energy."
The initial dollars behind the project came from the Long Now Foundation. Over time, however, the group found funding directly for the clock project. "Initially, it was funded by contributions from the Long Now Foundation," said Khanlian. "Then Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon.com) got interested. Now hes funding the building of the early prototype."
The group sees the Texas clock as the first in a series of long-term clocks. "Were not building just one clock. We hope there will be more clocks," said Khanlian. "The board at the Long Now Foundation would like to see more than one clock. There is also a site near Nevada."
The clock will have more duties than just showing the time of day. "There are a couple ways to read the clock," said Little. Theres a calendar. You can take a rubbing off of it. It shows the orientation of the sun, the moon, and the planets. It also shows the phase of the moon."
In designing the clock, the team uses PTC Mathcad Prime and PTC Creo in their day-to-day work to create transparent engineering calculations and transparent design. For example, PTC Mathcad, PTC software for engineering calculations keeps track of units and enables the team to quickly test and update engineering calculations. PTC Creo (PTC CAD software), enables the team to quickly share progress and design updates with other team members. The team indicated that Mathcad to Creo makes it easy to pass data.
The engineering team expects to finish the construction of the clock in the next five years.
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Aiken 2
Greenbrier 2
The Aiken High School boys' soccer team battled to a 2-2 draw against Greenbrier Wednesday. Machi Provost and Dylan Snow scored the goals for the Hornets (9-5-1), who got four saves from goalie Bradley Cardona.
Aiken will be off through spring break and will return to action on April 16 at White Knoll.
South Aiken 10
Grovetown 0
The South Aiken boys won their second game in a row by a lopsided margin, traveling to Georgia for a win over Grovetown. Daniel Zaremba had a hat trick for the Thoroughbreds (11-2) while teammates Chris Schifer and Phillip Hare contributed two goals apiece. Marcel Martinez, Tareq Hailiat and Matt Albertson rounded out the scoring for South Aiken, which will cross the Savannah River again today for a game at Lakeside High School.
North Augusta 7
Hephzibah 0
North Augusta scored a big win over Hephzibah, with six players accounting for seven goals. Derek Bussey was the only Yellow Jacket to find the back of the net twice, while teammates Joe Smith, Fed N'kutula, Bailey Van Haastrecht, Blake Busby and Jose Uzcanga also scored. North Augusta (3-7) will play at home tonight against Evans.
Greenbrier 10
Aiken 0
The Aiken girls suffered a tough loss against Greenbrier. Kelly Coons had 10 saves for the Hornets, who won't play again until an April 16 contest at home against White Knoll.
South Aiken 10
Grovetown 0
Jessica Schifer had a monster game for South Aiken in a dominant win over Grovetown. Schifer had a hat trick and added five assists to go with her three goals. T-Bred teammates Alaina Gay and Macey Bosley each had two goals and an assist, while Sabrina Giancroce contributed two goals and two assists. Laura Barnes rounded out the scoring with a goal and an assist for South Aiken (11-2-1), which will play host to Lakeside tonight.
Strom Thurmond 5
Silver Bluff 4
In its final game before spring break, the Silver Bluff baseball team lost a one-run game to Strom Thurmond. Jordan Lambert (2-1) took the loss for the Bulldogs (13-4), who were led on offense by Dalton Smith, who was 2-for-4 with three RBIs. Graham Hatfield and Jake Clark both went 2-for-4 with an RBI for the Rebels.
Silver Bluff's next game will be at Barnwell on April 16 in a contest that could determine the Region 5-AA champion.
North Augusta 8
Bamberg-Ehrhardt 2
North Augusta got a balanced effort from its batting order in a win over Bamberg-Ehrhardt. Ryan Hammond led the way, going 3-for-3 with two RBIs and a run scored. Corbin Lutier and Zach Jarvis both went 2-for-3, with Jarvis scoring two runs. Bryson Conner and Cody Turner also had two hits apiece for the Yellow Jackets, who supplied enough offense to make Chaz Davey the winning pitcher.
Carson-Newman 1-4
USC Aiken 0-3
The USC Aiken softball team was swept in a doubleheader against Carson-Newman at J.H. Satcher Field, losing a pair of one-run games. Carson-Newman (26-12) picked up a narrow 1-0 victory in the first game and defeated USCA (20-16-1) 4-3 in 10 innings in the nightcap.
In the opener, India Kornegay (11-8) was the tough-luck loser. She gave up only two hits and the one earned run, while striking out eight Eagles over seven innings. Unfortunately for Kornegay, one of the hits was a solo home run by Sara Kelley in the fourth inning.
Victoria Burkett was 2-for-2 with a walk for the Pacers, who had five hits to Carson-Newman's two.
In the second game, USCA rallied from a three-run deficit thanks to Cortney Sadler's two-run home run and Sarah Montei's run-scoring single in the seventh inning. Neither team scored until the 10th inning, when Britany Hefner hit a solo home run, her second of the game, to score the game-winning run for the Eagles.
Taylor Morgan took the loss for the Pacers, pitching all 10 innings. She struck out 13, while falling to 9-8 on the season.
The Pacers will next be in action on the road on Friday when they make the short trip to take on rival and Peach Belt foe Augusta State in a doubleheader. First pitch of game one is scheduled for 2 p.m.
Midland Valley JV 9
South Aiken 6
Jace Bennefield picked up a win in the pitchers' circle and hit a triple for the Midland Valley junior varsity squad in its victory over South Aiken. Angel Toole and Haylie Fittery both went 2-for-2 with a triple for the Mustangs (14-3), while Carly Dempsey was the pitcher of record for South Aiken.
USC Aiken women win, but men lose in matches against Lander
The USC Aiken women's tennis team claimed a 5-3 Peach Belt Conference victory over Lander. In the men's match, featuring two top-30 teams, seventh-ranked Lander bested the No. 30 USC Aiken men, 5-1.
The loss for the USC Aiken men (9-5, 3-5) against Lander (12-1, 8-0) snapped a three-match winning streak for the Pacers. The USC Aiken women (10-7, 5-6) after their win over Lander (7-7, 4-6) have now won two straight matches.
Because of expected inclement weather in the area, USCA's scheduled match at Belmont Abbey today has been cancelled. The USCA men and women will now close out their week with a home match against PBC foe Georgia College at home on Saturday starting at 1 p.m.


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Firefighters and other certified first responders in emergency situations soon will be able to authorize the launch of a helicopter because of a recent change in an Aiken County internal operating policy. The change will take effect on Wednesday.
Previously, first responders could request a helicopter to be on standby through the Aiken County Sheriff's Office dispatch center. But the chopper couldn't leave the ground until an Aiken County EMS shift supervisor authorized the aircraft's takeoff.
"We are continually looking for ways to get better patient care out there during an emergency," said Aiken County Administrator Clay Killian, who discussed the new helicopter policy in a telephone interview on Sunday afternoon. "This was just something that we felt like we needed to go ahead and do, and that's why we are doing it."
According to Killian, Aiken County officials sent a notice about the change to "all the fire chiefs and first responders" in the County late in the afternoon on July 19. The new operating policy won't take effect until Wednesday because the delay "will give all our EMS shifts a chance to rotate through and the fire departments a chance to meet with their folks and develop any internal policies that they need for their procedures for getting a chopper into the air," Killian said. "We needed to give people time to get prepared for it and talk about how they are going to handle it. But if a fire chief makes a call on Tuesday (to launch a helicopter), we're not going to say, 'Wait a minute, the new policy isn't in effect yet.' We are going to go ahead and do that (launch a helicopter)."
The change in the helicopter policy followed a fatal accident involving a toddler on July 4 in Wagner. Ryan Eagerton, 2, was pronounced dead at Richland Memorial Hospital in Columbia after being struck by a vehicle at his home.
Wagener Fire Chief Mark Redd and others complained about how the situation was handled and called for a change in Aiken County's emergency response policy involving helicopters. According to Redd, the first responders in his crew were more than qualified to call for a LifeNet helicopter. If they could have authorized a launch, Eagerton could have been transported to the hospital more quickly, Redd maintained.
"I don't know if it would have made a difference, but in my honest and professional opinion, he (Eagerton) didn't get the chance that he deserved," Redd said.
Following Redd's appearance before City Council on July 16, "we met with him and discussed some of the options," Killian said.
"Obviously, there has been a lot of thought since the tragedy on July 4," Killian continued. "We had heard of problems with the policy before – at least perceived problems. We didn't know whether they were true or not, but we were already looking at the policy."
Aiken County EMS will continue to be responsible for medical decisions after it arrives on the scene of an emergency and its personnel will make the decision about "how the final transport (of a patient) takes place, whether it is ground or air," Killian said.
If a helicopter has been launched "and we (Aiken County EMS) decide when we get there that it doesn't make sense, we'll cancel the helicopter," Killian said. "But this way (by letting first responders authorize a launch), the helicopter gets in the air a bit sooner and is on the way quicker. If we need the chopper, so be it, and, if we don't need it, we'll deal with that, too. Hopefully, in situations where a helicopter is truly needed, it will get in the air a couple of minutes faster than has been happening in the past."


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Donald Sterling vows fight, says he has offers of $2.5B
Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling said the NBA's efforts to terminate his ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers are "illegal" and are based on a recording of a private conversation that itself broke California law, according to his 32-page response sent to the league Tuesday and obtained by USA TODAY Sports.
Sterling says he will fight the charges and noted that he has received offers of more than $2.5 billion for the team. He also noted that a forced sale of the team would cause his family to take an "egregious" tax hit on the sale of the club.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... n/9646707/
I wonder this also.
Luckily, the free agent period doesn't begin until July 1 we should have this resolved by then
I guess he'll still have to be voted out and this was all for show, as expected. Cannot wait until this franchise is finally rid of this waste of flesh and his hag harpie wife.
Those two are beyond bat-sh** crazy.
....I'm speechless.
BAT-SH** crazy
Far from over it seems.
I don't think anyone is surprised by Donald Sterling's ultimate reaction, and I don't think the NBA is either. He will likely to be voted out, but then file a lawsuit in order to stay, so the question is going to be, how will it hold up in the courts. So unfortunately it might not be as quick as everyone would like.
2.5 billion? Come on Donald, you're embarrassing yourself.
What a huge piece of sh!#!!!! I would have had the smallest amount of respect possible for him if he had agreed that selling the team was in the best interest of everyone involved. His already bad reputation, is just getting worse every time he talks out of his disgusting - leather bag looking of a face.
I don't wish death on anyone, but what's the second worst thing that I could wish on him?
I hope this piece of crap keeps opening his stupid mouth. That way a judge would have to rule against this idiot.
If this wasn't a circus before, it definitely is one now.
To be him.
Back to square 1. I knew it was too good to be true.
This is a great read re. Sturdling. http://straighthoops.com/legally_speaking.html
It is actually depressing.
If he gets to keep the team I am truly finished with the Clippers and I hope everyone else does the same.
I think we all share the same anxiety. For a minute I actually believed the miser was going to do the right thing and sell. Boy how naive I can be sometimes
I bet once Donald heard about the money, of course he want to keep it.
this is the most dramatic thing I've read.
Same as it ever was. Donald has always said he's not going quietly. The NBA just had the attitude that if Shelly could find an acceptable buyer in a hurry - despite Donald - they might listen to her.
Wouldn't surprise me if Shelly's plan all along was to sell to a 'friend' only to have an under-the-table deal that she could buy back her share quietly at a later date when Donald was finally gone.
It'll be interesting to see if that 'power of negotiation' contract between the Sterlings actually exists. If it does, then the old man truly has lost his mind.
Either way, this story should just be titled "War of the Sterlings". Shelly has no pull with the league because they never gave any in the first place. This is still Donald Sterling vs. the NBA... it's just that now it appears he has another enemy to deal with.
NBA are probably loving the fact that Donald has to fight on another front.
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was...
Here's the full text of his rebuttal of the charges...
It'll be stupid if someone buys this team for over a billion and then relocate the team. Part of the team's value is the location!
I doubt the league lets that happen. I doubt the owners let that happen. Part of the future earnings in the new TV deal takes away money from the other teams. Clippers have to share part of that. There is no way they'd get a better deal if they let them relocate.
You're welcome haha. But seriously I know Sterling has always been a flaming racist but just what it would mean for our current team and what we've been trying to build would be too much for me.
Shits hitting the fans guys 📃
This Team Ain't Going To Seattle
Donald doesn't get is that if he waits until after June 3rd all of the profits from the sell that could be 2.5 BILLION would go to charity. He would not get a penny. That Is Why I Think He Is Trying To Sell
Shits hitting the fans guys 📃
Yeah, but...
That's nonsense. He and his family will get 2/3 of all profits whether he sells the team or the NBA does. The remaining 1/3 will be split between Uncle Sam and the State of California... ie: taxes.
So how does this work? All bids come in today, then Sterling has until June 3rd to pick who he wants to sell to?
So let's start a kickstarter I am in for a 100
This Team Ain't Going To Seattle
I love you Pete, and I would give almost anything for the SuperSonics to return again, but this isn't the way to do it. Seattle needs to either get the SuperSonics back from OKC, or they need to get an expansion team.
That would be true if he wasn't going to make a boat load of money when he sells the team.
So his best case scenario is that he wins and keeps the team. The worst is that he sells the team for a billion plus. I know there's a large tax on selling the team, but who cares. He bought the team for about 17 million if I'm not mistaken. Cry me a river haha.
Where did you get that bogus information?
If the NBA sells, they take out the fine he was sanctioned, and all fees that it took to sell the team. DTS gets what's left.
He can go fly a kite. Pete, that is.
I heard once the NBA takes possession of the team and once its sold. The money goes to charities of discrimination or something!? That Is What Silver said in his Presser right!?!? Or did I misinterpret
Any news its past the deadline
He said the $2.5million dollar fine would go towards charities and anti discrimination foundations.
I think it happened and it's name is Shelly. You have to go for a third worse thing that could happen
I am old so I have gone through a mother that died of dementia turning to Alzheimer's ,DTS reek of dementia just by the way he is acting. He needs to be interview by an African-American. he will get so riled up he will use the "N" word,then this drama will really get going but will also end.
Fellows and gals,a 1/2 weeks and he is done. Bank on it.
Sounds like a compromise that would be palatable for the fanbase as a whole.
As long Magic is not part of it.
Lol wow 2.5 billion doesn't seem like a lot of money anymore
Haha totally. Until you realize it would take somebody making minimum wage working full time 130,000 years to make that much.


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Clemson has 16 commitments for its 2013 class as signing day approaches. Swinney said his target number is to sign between 21 and 24 players. Swinney noted Clemson has only 10 seniors and has some room to maneuver due to attrition and placing some walk-ons on scholarship in 2012.
But we are not going to sign guys just to sign guys, Swinney said.
Swinney still has the time and the targets to significantly improve the 2013 class.
The Clemson coach has proven to be an adept closer before and Clemson is courting five-star defensive end Carl Lawson and five-star defensive tackle Montravius Adams, who officially visited Clemson earlier this month. Both are expected to announce their college choices on Feb. 6.
Does Swinney have another signing day surprise waiting?
In 2009, Swinney signed a quarterback named Tajh Boyd late in the signing period, beating out Oregon and Ohio State. Boyd has become one of the best quarterbacks in program history.
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Don't be put off by the obstacles if you are planning on visiting the London Family History Centre.
It is not really as awkward as it looks to get across the road and into the building, but it is more than a little disconcerting as you emerge from the London Underground pedestrian subway to be confronted with barriers and fences.
Today when I visited there was a crossing point and break in the fence just to the right of the subway entrance in front of the Science Museum, but I suspect this changes on a fairly regular basis, so that piece of information may not be a lot of use unless you plan to visit in the next few weeks.
The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea seem to be the people responsible for the disruption. It is part of the Exhibiton Road Project which according to the project's website will convert the street to a place "where culture and learning are accessible to people of all ages and backgrounds with a streetscape that makes that ambition a reality."
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AIKEN, SC – Fred Walton Hale, 74, of Aiken, SC, passed away July 9, 2013, at Cleveland Clinic, Cleveland, OH, following a long illness.
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He is survived by his loving wife of 47 years, Caroline Hale, his sons Darrell Hale (Donna) and Scott Hale (Steve), brothers Arlin Hale (Lois), Ralph Hale (Nancy), James Hale (Margaret), Harold Hale (Drema), Clayton Hale (Barbara), Kenneth Hale, Bill Hale (Freda), Bob Hale (Bea) and sisters Ruby Hurt, Patty Ann Carter (Raymond) and Cathy McGlothlin (Perry).
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Time Warner head huh?
Hmmm, this should be interesting. I just hope they don't try put the Clippers on one of the TWC channels.
I think it's gonna happen eventually. We better brace ourselves.
Wouldn't be bad. Good announcers is all that matters.
Former Citicorp and Time Warner executive, I hope he don't screw Clippers management and fans.
Well let's see,I have to pay 4 bucks a month to Direct TV for a channel I don't watch ,the Faker channel. I have not seen my Dodger play anymore thanks to TWC and Direct TV having a wiener wagging fight with each other. So no more Dodger baseball. I can't see USC football home game because Direct won't pay 40 cents a month for the Pac-12 channel (although I am always there,it's the principle). And now , and soon, the Clippers deal with Fox is about up and time to re-negotiate.
YOu can smell this a mile a way. The new Clipper owners (if DTS and Shelly die quickly) will negotiate a 2 billion dollar contract with TWC and there goes the Clippers unless you have TWC. Talk about a sports monoploy. The only thing left will be Angel baseball,and of course the Faker channel.
Guys he hasn't been connected to Time Warner for 7 years. He's not even well-liked there due to his strong support with the disaster of a merger with AOL.
...plus Time Warner Cable is actually no longer part of the Time Warner corporation, hasn't been since 2009. In fact, Time Warner Cable is getting ready to bought by Comcast.
He won't be making any big decisions. Just the day-to-day stuff. He's basically the NBA's inside man who will make sure the franchise remains a functional business until it's sold.
I am really glad he is black. phew, we could have really missed an opportunity to prove a point.
so doc practically has all the power. this is good. this is good.
Glad to see that the NBA appointed a seasoned executive to oversee the Clippers organization. Doc, being the head of ALL basketball operations, is what the Clippers need going forward.
Now if only someone can get rid of all the Sterlings pronto in one fell swoop, that would be welcome news. I'm getting annoyed with Shelly Sterling's posturing. She's as much a racist as her husband and no amount of denial on her part is going to change facts. Those discrimination lawsuits against her and her husband and the accompanying video of her posing as a health inspector to gain illegal access to her tenants' apartments point a very vivid picture of who this old beyotch really is and she's rotten to the core, just like her philandering husband. Time for her to go. Time for ALL Sterlings to go.
That was my thought too when I saw him. ON purpose? Or the best guy available? Either way our team should like it and that is what counts,not what we think.
Looks like Magic may have some connections with this guys or he is giving an endorsement to a guy who will work for him. Deal maybe being made under the table.
I drool at the thought of MAGIC owning the Clippers....hope you're right!!
Yes happy for clippers!! Now go kick ass
It should have been Chandler Parson
I am going to sell a solid gold puke bucket to Jim Buss as he is probably vomiting 24/7 at the thought of all the Lakers greats -- Phil, Magic, Kareem and others -- he has alienated, making them enemies.
When I was active on Laker Topbuzz (you can look it up) I said there was a good chance for the Clippers to overtake the Lakers as Los Angeles' number one team. (Not worldwide; the Lakers clearly have a prohibitive lead in foreign marketing.) I was roundly mocked -- even hated -- for that prediction.
Obviously, I could not have seen the DTS fiasco and its fallout. It was more about people and events moving very fast in the Internet world. The unthinkable can rapidly become the thinkable in this electronically interconnected world.
Regardless of how the events unfolded, if Magic were to take over the Clippers -- with his charisma and the Guggenheim BANK -- this looks less and less like the predictions of a maniac.
I think there is one foolproof indicator of a L.A. hoops "reversal of fortune." If you see Jack Nicholson court side for the Clippers, "Game Over!"
Who is going to pay for the team going forward?
Parsons is suppose to be introduced at a press conference sometime today.
It sounds like direct tv really sucks
They just finished the Parsons press conference a few mintues ago; they aired it live on ESPN 710. Here's some highlights...
He's being paid by the NBA to the run the team, but isn't required to report to either Adam Silver or the other 29 owners
He hasn't spoken to Donald and Shelly Sterling, and doesn't plan to.
Pretty much everything stays business as usual as far as day-to-day functions
That's at least what I heard; I didn't tune in until halfway through the conference.


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Naruto - The Bond of the Shinobi (Dub.DVD 25)
Title: Naruto - The Bond of the Shinobi
Volume: Dub.DVD 25
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Release date: 2008-07-01
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Age rating: 13+
Naruto and Jiraiya head home with Tsunade and Shizune in tow, and the four stop at a hot spring resort for a little relaxation and an unexpected adventure. But at home again in Hidden Leaf Village, it's back to business. Tsunade's first task: heal the injured ninja. The others are successfully revived, but Tsunade has bad news for Rock Lee. While the village cheerfully prepares for Tsunade's inauguration as Fifth Hokage, Rock Lee must ponder the possibility that he will never fulfill his ninja dreams.
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Great class as usual
Great presentation. Thanks Warren.
Good presentation. Thanks Warren.
Have used LEDs to indicate status to user.
Have not used a power profile tool, but sounds quite useful.
Have used alkaline for consumer (availability) and li-ion for portable vital signs monitoring (capacity and power capability).
I am a software engineer, my primary focus is embedded software development. I have spent the last 23 years working in the medical device industry.
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thank you Warren for insight into power cosumption on batteries
Good Presentation - Pulls a lot together!
slide 10 - you name your own 'power use profile' terms that are not in step with vendors names?? Seems to add yet another level of confusion ...
Low power is very important for the reasons stated in class 1 as well as environmental and social reasons relating to energy use and lifestyle social determinants. An interesting and perhaps, at first glance, 'fun' application is monitoring or controlling temperature in a refrigerated vehicle I suppose. Perhaps there are bragging rights for keeping Eskimo pies at constant and sub-zero temperatures driving across the desert. Perhaps a better total energy efficiency is to eliminate the application.
Good engineers, being good citizens and wise stewards of the planet's energy sometimes might want to consider recommendations for a broader conservation of energy and resource utilization at the higher system levels.
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Hi everyone, good morning.
Thank you, Warren!
Very informative
Great to have access to the recorded sessions!
Better late than never...
Taking the offline class...
Thanks again
Audio could be a bit better though
Another solid lecture
I do mostly software put am moving into hardware with exploring the arduino
picking up day four
Ya software control can be used in power saving.
I have used Lithium Battery in my design.
thank you Warren,
My constrainsts have usually been capacity as well as size in my designs.
Thank you Warren for sharing knowledge. I have audio issue
Thank you Warren!
Hope to 'see' everyone for our final class tomorrow!
@John- Shelf life was included on my slide since I just did a screen capture of the Energizer video. They probably include it since it is important to their end customers- probably not as important to us as designers (unless our designs have batteries in them and then sit on the shelf for a long time in inventory. Seems like it would be uncommon however.
@John- The currents in Table on slide 12 are estimates from the data sheet. These can be measured using a number of techniques- ammeter, capacitor to via a shunt resistor and a scope. There are issues with each of these techniques I cover in a previous class so take a look at previous PPTs/audios if you want more details.
@Chris- Thanx for the link on the battery lifetime article. Great to include in this chat as a resource!
@MHarkins- Power stealing (or harvesting) is a good technique to use. I will try and cover it in an example tomorrow. Thanx for the suggestion!
On batery capacity that varies with drain rate- you are correct and it can be difficult to use manufacturers data (typically in graph form as you say) but it is possible to do some estimates that 'bound' the lifetime using these graphs. Not as accurate as you might wish, but should be accurate enough for most applications (you should be able to show that you can run for at leasy 2 years- for example- but may not be able to say exactly how much longer than 2 years).
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So the avg current can be determined. But to find lifetime you need to know the real battery capacity. Data sheets won't tell you the capacity directly, because a batteries capacity (mAh) varies tremendously with the drain rate. Even if they give a graph it's on a low resolution log-log scale and it's practically impossible to determine the capacity at YOUR load -- especially if your load varies, for example if current varies with battery voltage. How do you know a battery's capacity?
Thank you Lauren and Warren, great presentation.
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Thank you also Lauren
Great presentation, Thanks alot
Thanks! Those were some great tips.
Excellent lecture, thank you Warren
Thanks - very informative
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Telltale leds for debugging the code, then normally off.
LEDs mostly used for power/status and debugging
General informative LED functions as state indicator.
LED to show power on.LED to show communication traffic.
One project had an LED for status. Application allowed just a short flash every few seconds. That saved a lot of power.
visual heartbeat
You might want to mention power stealing techniques where you siphon small amounts of power from loads connected to your device.
ADC, process to complete. during thermal ramp up / down sample spacing dt/dt to avoid overshoot, etc.
ADC, communications, periodic measurements, etc.
On the current project, while in low-power mode, just looking for a keypress.
Interrupts from external source
Wait for ADC
Most wait time waiting for user action or environmental condition.
wait sometime ADC, sometimes an signal
A typical wait is for the ADC input capacitor to settle. When switching inputs to the ADC, you need to wait for the sampling cap.
external interrupt
usually only settling times for external output changes.
@johnmr - you could comment out the code which activates those peripherals over many captures, and measure the difference.
Are there simulation tools that could provide estimates of power usage, transitions, and provide averages, all based on information on the design?
On the topic of 22-year battery life, Jack Ganssle wrote a good article about the (multi-)decade from a coin cell claims from manufacturers. His take was that things like the capacitor leakage (which I see is mentioned in this PPT) and other possible nanoamp leaks (also I would add, like Warren just did, battery life and self-discharge) make multi-decade runtimes on coin cells more or less impossible.
The mcu is only one part, and sometimes a small part, of the power puzzle.
So the current listed in this table (slide 12) - are these measured quantities or estimated? Is it possible to measure these current?
Silicon Labs has AppBuilder/PowerAware IDE to help configuration and manage power
Have not used any profilers for power.
No power profile tools except spreadsheet
found most tools to be only loose estimates
have to manually keep track of the peripherals which may be active and must account for pull-ups manually
Used Power profiler from IAR. Easier to just attach digital multimeter and capture average current
I've heard of things like powertop, but haven't used them...
I have not seen any tools available
I made my own power profile tool in an excel spreadsheet
Haven't used or seen power profile tools
Created my own lifetime profile tool from Excel.
Used some command profiling, but have not looked into power profiling
Have not used such tools
haven't seen them. Who is providing them?
Different projects, different needs.
I used lithium coin cells, AA primary cells, and NiCd/NiMH in different projects.
I am going to end up with a Lead-Acid battery in a side project I'm doing.
Lead acid (Small Capacity), NiCd.
Some variation of CR20xx
I use Lithium coin battery CR 2032
size and weight are important factors to me
AA alkaline, size vs capacity, as well as consumer cost
Have used 9V and AA batteries. Planning on using coin cell for a new design.
Issue for a drone design: energy vs weight, affecting range of craft
Haven't previously used. Was using power from USB. Now trying to decide between AA and coin. Size is a factor, but current draw to implement Wifi or Bluetooth is a factor
CR2032 - cost, size voltage, capacity
Supercap bank, LiPo, Lead-acid, NiCd, Ni-MH rechargeables
Primaries - CZn, Li
AA + coin
Solar, Thermal Auto, Marine, Aircraft, aerospace
Why is shelf life listed in the slides? Is this important from a design perspective?
AA Alkaline, lithium coin cell, lithium-ion rechargeable cell packs. Each was driven by the needs of the products it went in from smoke detectors, to cellular radio devices.
lithium ion primary and secondary
Have not used battery in design yet.
Ni-Mh, Lithium polymer, mainly capacity
AAA & AA, capicity
AA, CR2032 - available for end customer
Mainly AA batteries - used to use Energizer MAX, but now use Engerizer Ultimate Lithium
Alkaline & SLA
LiIon for maximum capacity under load
lithium coin cells for me
You should really fix your audio problems
JSP: If it's big enough, it can be thought of as lasting forever. a 5,000 kg battery will do it. :-)
More seriously, energy harvesting can have a similiar effect, but usually only at low power levels.
Sorry I'm late; power failure.
@JSP Nothing is perfect :-)
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Charlie Brown and Snoopy were more than pals; they were best friends and partners.
Nope, not the characters in the daily comics – the real-life Charlie Brown of Aiken and his therapy dog.
Snoopy was still "working" with kids and adults well into 2012 even after turning 15 last May. Only over the summer and into early fall did his health begin to deteriorate. The black miniature schnauzer had to be put down at a veterinarian's office in late September.
"I felt incredible grief," said Charlie Brown. "It was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, but it needed to be done."
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"Snoopy can never be replaced," Charlie Brown said, "but Cooper is another dog and he's good company. He has his own little traits, and I've gotten very attached to the guy."
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Snoopy turned out with all kinds of talents. Soon after they moved to Aiken 10 years ago, Charlie Brown became a coach with the nationally-based "Lego League" robotics program – mostly at J.D. Lever Elementary School – helping out teacher Dr. Bridget Coleman and, later, teacher Nonica Livingston. Not surprisingly, the kids took to Snoopy immediately, as the dog was a natural at therapy. Charlie Brown would take Snoopy through Paws for Reading to the Aiken County Public Library. About three years ago, the program started at Millbrook.
"Snoopy had such a good time," Charlie Brown said. "The absolutely wonderful thing about therapy dogs is that everybody wins – the kids, the dogs and their handlers. It's a very positive, uplifting thing."
Chrissey Miller, the SPCA's development director, considered Charlie Brown and Snoopy a special team. When the dog's illness persisted, she would send Charlie Brown emails to inquire about Snoopy's condition, a gesture that Charlie Brown much appreciated.
After Snoopy passed away, Miller waited a while, then discovered Cooper at the shelter, then going by another name. She thought Charlie Brown might like him and told him, "We have a dog and every time I walk by, he whispers to me, 'Where is Charlie Brown?'"
Of course, Charlie Brown couldn't pass up Miller's ingenious invitation. When Cooper saw him, the dog was lying down, then suddenly leaped up like a rocket. Cooper's eyes got big and round, almost like he recognized that guy in front of him. Charlie Brown took him home as a foster dog and in two weeks, Cooper wasn't leaving.
The dog still has a long way ahead before he becomes a registered therapy dog. Still, Charlie Brown is thrilled over the dog's kindness and his capabilities as a quick learner. Cooper just takes things in stride.
For sure, though, Charlie Brown will remember a dog named so charmingly. The very real Snoopy could have had that comic strip bubble emerging from his head to show what he was thinking. When he entered a library room or a classroom, the children would erupt with joy.
"Snoopy just ate it up. He loved kids more than adults," said Charlie Brown.
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I have previously struggled to find my 4x great-grandmother Mary MITCHELL (née SMITH) in the 1861 census. I didn't really expect to find anything unusual in the entry, but with a surname like SMITH you need to check every record just in case there are any clues to help me find her parents.
I had found Mary in every census from 1841 to 1891 (she died in Q3 1891) except 1861 and was fairly certain that her son William would be living with her. I also knew from other census returns that she was born around 1808 in Cuckfield, Sussex and that she would be a widow in 1861.
I had previously had no luck with Ancestry.co.uk and Findmypast.co.uk but having seen TheGenealogist.co.uk presentation at Who Do You Think You Are? Live 2011 last weekend and having been impressed by their search facilities I decided it would be a good idea to try searching their indexes.
I had hoped to try out their Family Forename Search, but with the only two names being William and Mary I didn't fancy my chances (and I wasn't even sure that William would be with his mother) of finding them easily. A straight-forward search didn't bring up any entries for Mary MITCHELL, but I did have more luck with William. William MITCHELL was living with his mother and his brother Alfred in Slaugham, Sussex.
Although I had found the entry and could have just left it at that, I wanted to learn why I had struggled to find the family. I felt sure there were valuable lessons to be learned for the future.
Of course I already knew that transcriptions and indexes are not always perfect but in my experience they are usually good enough to find the person you are looking for with a bit of ingenuity and persistence.
In this case one look at the census image was enough to identify the problem, in fairness to the Ancestry and Findmypast transcribers the M at the beginning of the surname does look like a lot like a W to me. Sure enough this is how they had it indexed.
So it looks like TheGenealogist has the best transcription, but not quite. They got the hard bit right (her surname) but got Mary's first name completely wrong!
Also I am not sure that the address is correct, there is nothing to suggest that the name "Old Pack Farm" should have been carried on to subsequent entries. Then looking at Ancestry's results it appears that William was born in Balmaclellan, Sussex (I don't think so).
I wondered if anyone had transcribed the record correctly and remembered that FreeCEN had completed transcribing the 1861 census for Sussex, I wondered what their transcribers had made of it?
Turns out they knew exactly what they were doing, even down to the note on the birth place of William. I was surprised, not that the FreeCEN transcribers got it right, but that they were the only ones that got it right. Of course they don't have the images for free so I would still have needed to check against one of the other websites.
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On New Year's Eve under the Georgia Dome roof in Atlanta, the Clemson offense, which has totaled the ninth-most yards in the country, will meet an elite LSU defense that possesses the type of defensive front that has led the Southeastern Conference to six straight national titles. The group has helped LSU to rank eighth in the nation in yards allowed.
LSU has two projected first-round picks on its defensive line in ends Sam Montgomery, a South Carolina native, and Barkevious Mingo.
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Clemson's last meeting against an elite defensive front didn't go well.
South Carolina's front four limited Clemson to season lows in plays (59) and yards (328), Clemson averages 518 yards per game.
Clemson single-blocked South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney and Clowney responded by sacking Clemson quarterback Tajh Boyd 4 ½ times. That strategy might need to be rethought against Montgomery and Mingo, who have the speed, strength and athleticism on the edge to beat Clemson's tackles on the edge.
Clemson did better against Florida State and its talented end Bjoern Werner, holding FSU to two sacks and totaling 426 yards.
"I like our guys, I like how they've developed but this is another one of those matchups where we'll be tested," Swinney said. "We'll have to figure out how to contain some of these pass rushers they've got."
The LSU front is backed by quality defensive backs, who have helped LSU to the nation's ninth-best pass efficiency defense (101.4) and overcome the loss of star safety Tyrann Mathieu.
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