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The Young Stars Tournament opens on Friday and while we're taking a good look at all of this from a Flames perspective, our resident Oilers expert RexLibris has compiled a look at the next most-interesting group of prospects around - the dastardly Edmonton Oilers. Know your enemy, folks.
As you are all aware, this year's Young Stars tournament is set to start Friday, Sept 12th.
The schedule looks like this:
Game 1 Calgary vs Winnipeg Sept. 12 4:00 pm
Game 2 Vancouver vs Edmonton Sept. 12 7:30 pm
Game 3 Calgary vs Edmonton Sept. 13 7:30 pm
Game 4 Vancouver vs Winnipeg Sept. 14 2:00 pm
Game 5 Penticton Vees' Exhibition Sept. 14 5:30 pm
Game 6 Edmonton vs Winnipeg Sept. 15 11:30 am
Game 7 Vancouver vs Calgary Sept. 15 5:30 pm*
*line brawl scheduled for 5:38pm or immediately following national anthem
There has and will be plenty of information on this site about the many Flames prospects attending this tournament. I can't really give you any more information on any of them than I already have in my RE series or, more likely, that you are likely to find from some of the many other writers here at Flamesnation.
The Canucks roster is here. The Jets here. And for those of you who want some information on the Penticton Vees, you can click here.
So instead, I thought I would provide some information on some names likely to appear for the Oilers this year. Some of them will be new while others will have played in last year's tournament. Fellow Nations writer Kevin McCartney wrote this about last year's Oilers' final game against the Canucks.
Everyone is familiar with the core group of the Oilers, the 1st overalls and such. Likewise are most other fans familiar with Sean Monahan, John Gaudreau, and Sven Baertschii. Most people never really take the time to familiarize themselves with the other names within an organization's prospect chart. How many Canucks fans do you think are familiar with Michael Ferland? Jon Gillies? Eric Roy? The two fan bases are virtually neighbours but, if we extend the metaphor, couldn't name the make of each other's lawnmower.
So here is a breakdown of Oilers prospects named to the Young Stars tournament, along with some brief information on each.
Centers – An area of growing organizational depth, with a number of potential complementary players and some promising two-way prospects. The most notable area of size amongst forwards in the organization.
Leon Draisaitl – Big draft pick this year, 3rd overall. Has been in Edmonton this off-season working on his skating speed with Steve Serdachny and is said to be up to 210lbs. Projects as a 1st line center. A safe bet that he's on the Oilers' roster after nine games.
Bogdan Yakimov – Big. 6'5", 203lbs. Spent last season in the KHL putting up 12 pts in 33 gp playing around 10 minutes a night. Taken in the 3rd round in 2013. Was used in a shutdown, hard matchup role at the WJC last year and has progressed nicely. Comes from the same city as Yakupov, Nizhnekamsk. Projects to be a 3rd line C with some offense. Came over to North America this summer and said he'll do whatever the Oilers ask him in order to make the NHL.Will play in OKC (AHL) this fall.
Greg Chase – Surprise 7th round pick two years ago. Returning to the WHL this season. Stands 6' even and 205lbs. Had a breakout year last year netting 85 pts (35g-50a) in 70 WHL games for the Hitmen. Spent the off-season working on skating and has reportedly improved his overall speed. Little ball of hate that usually has the opposition thinking more about removing his head from his shoulders than their game plan and can score goals. Nephew of Kelly Chase.
Travis Ewanyk – Drafted in the 3rd round with the conditional Flames' pick exchanged in the Steve Staios trade (Max Reinhart was selected with the conditional pick the Flames retained). Ewanyk is a former Oil King who turned pro last year posting 12 pts in 68 AHL games. Offense is a challenge, but he is highly thought-of within the organization for his work-ethic and defensive abilities. Will return to OKC this fall.
Kyle Platzer – Part of the five-for-one draft pick trade-down MacTavish pulled in 2013. 5'11", 183lbs, two-way center played for the London Knights and Owen Sound last season. Due to return to junior this year. Offense is an issue, probably a draft-and-follow. Taken in the 4th round in 2013.
Marco Roy – The first publicly acknowledged analytics pick by the Oilers. Drafted in the 2nd round in 2013 out of the QMJHL. 6'1 and 183lbs, great skill and ability to play in a variety of situations. Lost a major part of last season to injury posting 35 pts in 39 games. Had 67 in 65 games in his draft year. Oilers have a lot invested, ideologically and otherwise, in this player. Will play with the Remparts in the QMJHL this season and is expected to take a big step forward.
Left wing – An area of abundant prospects, although some limits in terms of talent ceilings. Size again evident as the franchise has spent a decade hunting for a Lucic. A better mix of size and smaller skill players in recent years and the most heavily stocked area of undrafted junior free agents courtesy of Bob Green.
Mithcell Moroz – Famous, or infamous, 2nd round pick of the Oilers in 2012. There was still a lot of talent on the board, but Moroz was local (Oil Kings) and has size. Was the last in Tambellini's Lucic-hunt. Listed today at 6'3", 214lbs and can play with skill. Hits, fights, scores and is a beast on the forecheck. Improved markedly in his draft +1 year posting 35-28-63, +25 in 70gp with the Memorial Cup winning Oil Kings. Turns pro this season and will be watched intently. First season in OKC this fall.
Connor Jones – Diminutive undrafted twin of Oilers 2010 draft pick Kellen Jones. Stands 5'9" 165lbs. Spent the last four years in the NCAA, last season posting 38pts in 40 games. Small skilled player with a head for the game. Did I mention he was small. Expected to play in either OKC or Bakersfield (ECHL) this fall.
Kellen Jones – Same vital stats as his twin, posted 42 pts in 40 games in the NCAA last season and turns pro this year. 2010 7th round pick of the Oilers. Expected to play in OKC or Bakersfield this fall.
Josh Winquist – Undrafted winger who tore apart the WHL this past season going 47-46-93 over 67 games. 6', 181lbs and the latest in Bob Green's free agent amateur acquisitions. Enters the AHL on a Barons team deep on the wings, but he scored 47 goals in the dub and that is some kind of thing. Speed listed as an issue. Will play in either OKC or Bakersfield this fall.
Vladimir Tkachev – Another undrafted young winger brought in by Bob Green. Small at 5'9" and 163lbs, but highly skilled. Scored 10-20-30 in 20 games with the Moncton Wildcats in the QMJHL last season and is due to return. 1st round talent in a 5th round chassis. Enters a packed lineup on the wing. You can watch a clip of his QMJHL debut here. Interesting note: his most common points partner in the game is Ivan Barbashev, a prospect taken by the St. Louis Blues this June with the 2nd round pick the Oilers gave up in the Perron/Pajaarvi trade. Returns to junior this season.
Kale Kessy – Acquired in trade with Arizona in exchange for Tobias Rieder as one of Tambellini's last moves. Essentially Steve's way of flipping the bird on his way out the door, or at least that's how it feels to me. I loved Rieder. Kessy is a refrigerator on skates. He spent most of his time in OKC last year, posting 6pts in 54 games and going -12 with 88 penalty minutes. Oh, and Rieder? Nothing much. 64 AHL games last year going 28-20-48. Thanks Steve. Due for OKC or Bakersfield.
Alex Krushelnyski – Mike's son, which means the kid's jersey could be retired in Rexall if he plays even one game. He passed through the draft this spring and is one of those undrafted juniors the Oilers have loaded up on recently courtesy of the inimitable Bob Green. He's spent four seasons in the NCAA (Colorado College) and has 101 pts in 158 games. He's nothing like his father as a player, standing 5'11" and weighing 181lbs. His words: "I'd say I'm a little more of a finesse guy than dad was. At least he'd like me to be. It's funny really — my style of play is totally opposite from the feisty style he played." Projects as an energy, bottom six player. Awaiting a pro contract.
Juhjar Khaira – Another big kid at 6'3" 209lbs. 3rd round pick back in 2011. Spent last year with the Everett Silvertips playing under Coach Kevin Constantine posting 44 pts in 59 games. Before it went dark, ES had an IPP (Individual points percentage) for CHL leagues and Khaira was in the top 60 ahead of some surprising names. The offense is lacking, but he can skate, hit, create plays and appears to have been tutored to play a strong defensive game. Turned pro this summer. Also listed as a center. Will play in OKC this fall.
Right wing – Not as much depth as the left wing, although notable exceptions on this list include Tyler Pitlick (ineligible for tournament), Iiro Pakarinen (overage European free-agent), and John McCarron (NCAA).
Mitch Holmberg – Undrafted winger brought in by Bob Green last year. Blew the WHL apart in his overage year going 62-56-118 in 72 games with the Spokane Chiefs. Will turn pro this season. Smaller winger at 5'10" and 174lbs, but very skilled. Provides something unique on the right side depth chart in pure offense. Expected to split between OKC and Bakersfield.
Jackson Houck – Winger drafted in the 4th round in 2013
as part of the aforementioned trade-down. Bigger body at 6'1 and 194lbs who
provides some decent offense going 34-27-61 in 69 games for the Giants last
year. Plays a rough style and projects into the "power forward" category. Returning to the WHL Giants this fall.
Defense – By far the largest surplus of developing talent within the organization and a credit to the amateur scouting team. Chances are good that this group will be culled sometime during the season to address other weaknesses such as NHL center depth. Group possesses a good mix of size, skill, defensive and offensive ability. Heavily weighted in left-handed players, although a few (Simpson) can play either side. The hurry-up-and-wait area of organizational depth at this time.
Darnell Nurse – With all due respect to Leon Draisaitl, Nurse is the crown jewel in the prospects department. MacTavish's first pick as GM, taken 7th overall in 2013, Nurse played for the Greyhounds under Kyle Dubas. The Greyhounds are a rarity in the CHL as they openly discuss things like matchups, time on ice, and some shot metrics. Nurse projects as something near and dear to the hearts of Oilers fans – he is mean, he is big, he can skate, he is mean, he can defend, he can score, he is mean. 6'4" and 205 lbs in his draft +2 year and likely to return to the Greyhounds for at least one more year, Nurse is also likely to play in the WJC this year. Last season he managed 13-37-50 in 64 games with 91 penalty minutes and a +1 rating. When quizzed about the +/-, Dubas said that that stat had been taken out of context and that Nurse was the team's principle shutdown player who played most of the game against the opposition's best players. His uncle is Donovan McNabb and his sister, Kia, is on the Canadian Women's basketball radar. Probably gets a few NHL games, but almost certainly will be headed back to Sault Ste. Marie this season.
Jordan Oesterle – College free agent signing this past season, the 22-year old is a college puck-moving blueliner. 6' even and 185lbs, Oesterle played three season with Western Michigan going 2-15-17 and +27 in his last year before signing with the Oilers. Will go to the AHL this season. Will play in OKC this season.
Graeme Craig – Free agent invite, former WHL defender. Stands 6'5" and 203lbs, big men who can skate well get drafted. Will play in either OKC or Bakersfield this season.
Ben Betker – Part of the 2013 draft class, 6th round, Betker is a big man at 6'6" and 216lbs. Played for Everett last season posting 7-14-21 in 68 games and 102 penalty minutes and -3. Coach Kevin Constantine likes his defense and Betker is a very large frame who plays with an edge getting tutored in how to play his position. Well thought of as a prospect. Expected to return to the WHL Silvertips for another season.
Dillon Simpson – Craig Simpson's boy drafted in the 4th round back in 2011. He has grown considerably since then and is up to 6'2" and 196lbs. Skating issues raised on draft day have improved to the point where he was the Captain of his North Dakota NCAA team last year going 7-16-23 in 42 games. Smart young man who can play either side, is cool under pressure and projects as a strong, smart defender. Will play his first pro season this year. Turned pro and will play in OKC this season.
CJ Ludwig – Craig Ludwig's son, undrafted invite. 6' and 194lbs, played four years in the NCAA with Northern Michigan. Missed part of last season but managed 12 pts in 13 games. AHL contract with OKC this season.
Martin Gernat – Second year pro, drafted in the 5th round back in 2011. Hails from Kosice, Slovakia and has a "projectable" frame at 6'5" and is rumoured now to be around 195lbs. Played alongside Griffin Reinhart with the Oil Kings and has great offensive potential. Plays the game more like an extra forward, but is learning the finer nuances of the defensive side. Last year in the AHL he managed 4-17-21 in 57 games playing limited situations behind some more veteran defenders. Will be expected to take on a larger role this coming year. Will play in OKC this season.
David Musil – Frank's boy and another controversial 2nd round pick of the Oilers back in 2011. Listed at 6'3" and 203lbs, he enters his second pro season this fall. Defensive defenseman in the Jason Smith tradition, foot speed has been cited as an issue, although less so now than a year ago. Offense is non-existent, but makes small, smart plays and engages physically. Will return to OKC this season.
Connor Boland – Undrafted 19-year old from the Petes in the OHL. 6'3", 201 lbs with a 0.12 ppg average in his four years of junior. Central Scouting said the following (quote courtesy of Lowetide): "Boland is the type of defenseman who contributes and is effective in both ends of the ice. He has a tall, long and rangy build with the potential to really fill out and get stronger as he gets older and develops. His play shows and understanding of the game and a pretty high level of hockey sense. He just seems to do everything well. Boland possesses an attractive set of physical tools; he has good size, which he uses on a consistent basis, and better then average hands. He displays good skating and overall mobility and can be pretty crafty with the puck."
Goal - long considered the weakest area of organizational prospect depth, has been focused on in recent years with free-agent additions and talk of adding an overseas goalie coach.
Laurent Brossoit – Needs no introduction in these parts. Came over in the Smid trade along with Horak (who is playing this season overseas). Played most of last season in the ECHL (it's what the Oilers do to their goaltenders). Will be expected to split time with Richard Bachman in OKC this coming season.
Ty Rimmer – Another junior free agent signed last season. Performed well in limited time (3 games) in OKC last year and is expected to push incumbent Richard Bachman and Laurent Brossoit. May be remembered as a good goalie (.922 sv%) on a bad, bad, bad Lethbridge Hurricanes team back in 2012-2013. Will be pushing for OKC starting position, but may return to Bakersfield.
Frans Tuohimaa – 7th round pick in 2011, he has played the majority of his time since then in the Swedish leagues (Liiga, Mestis). Some impressive numbers and an intriguing prospect, but as before, what we don't know about goalies could fill the Grand Canyon and leave room for dinner. Remains to be seen if he sticks with OKC or goes to Bakersfield.
Keven Bouchard – drafted in the 7th round this past June, he played half a season with Val d'Or in the QMJHL and will return there again this coming year. Posted a 2.95 GAA, 0.887 sv% in 27 games. Could be a decade before he sees the NHL, if ever. Damned goalers. Will return to the QMJHL this season.
Players notable by exclusion: Tyler Vesel (2014 draft pick), John McCarron (big winger, NCAA, 2012 draft pick), William Lagesson (2014 draft pick, defenseman, playing in Sweden), Anton Slepyshev (playing overseas in Russia), Joey Laleggia (NCAA defender) and Zach Nagelvoort (European goalie).
How does this group stack up against the Flames' prospect group?
I think the Flames have greater depth when it comes to likely NHL talent on the Left wing and in goal, they have more dynamic prospects in Gaudreau and Poirier. In net, while the Flames have two good prospects in Gillies and Ortio, outside of that there is surprisingly little. The Right wing is a bit of a mystery as we don't know which players could switch wings with relative ease, but the Flames have some intriguing prospects at forward with Granlund, Ferland, Arnold and Reinhart. The Oilers only need to fill their bottom six in the NHL roster and have a collection of prospects who could achieve that end well. The Oilers and Flames both have depth at center right now and if we zero out Draistaitl and Bennett, neither side has a whole lot of elite potential. Defensively the Oilers have a significant advantage in both quality and quantity. This may even out in the next two years as Oilers prospects graduate and the Flames continue rebuilding.
Here Endeth the Lesson...
I've always felt that this tournament held two principal opportunities
for fans.
The first being to get a glimpse of one's developing players within
the context of that organization's other prospects and systems.
The second is a
chance to assess the relative strengths and positional depth of the
developmental systems of one's opposition.
It can become intoxicating to endlessly review one's prospect group, searching for hidden strengths or untapped areas of potential in every young player. It is difficult to truly know what potential talent resides within a developmental system until it is measured up against that of its competitors. Even then, we are often given only an imperfect glimpse into what may or may not await. By examining the relative strengths, weaknesses, and even drafting tendencies of other NHL organizations, one can begin to plot their own organization's standing within a larger context.
To quote Sun Tzu "it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles."
To that end, I hope that this has proven useful and informative.
One other note to pass along with regards to this camp and the following few weeks is the 50-man reserve list. The Oilers currently have 47 contracts, with Nurse's likely to slide. The Canucks have 52 with four likely to slide giving them perhaps 48. The Jets are at 46 with perhaps two sliding, and the Flames have 48 contracts with as many as three likely to slide. Meaning the Oilers, Flames and Jets will all have room to add players via trade, waivers or free-agency in the next few weeks as things shake out.
September 11 2014, 03:56PM
Sorry for asking a silly question.. are the games in Mountain Standard Time?
September 11 2014, 03:58PM
We've been over this, Rex. Poirier is a Right Wing. According to Poirier.
Those ones are in Pacific time
September 11 2014, 04:09PM
Those ones are in Pacific time
September 11 2014, 04:55PM
So is the takeaway from this article that the Flames prospects are infinitely better than those of the Coilers?
September 11 2014, 05:04PM
+/- is a shot centric metric too. Darnell, what gives?
September 11 2014, 09:20PM
Rex thanks for giving us a view from the other side. I sometimes take a look at the oilersnation site when ours gets stale to see what is happening up north. After reading the comments there and the comments on our site towards you I wonder how a flames fan writing an article on oilersnation would be received, I suspect with much more hostility than you get here. Keep sharing your thoughts.
Excellent article, its cool to take a look at the enemy's youngsters before I truly begin to hate them :)
Darnell Nurse, Oscar Klefbom, Martin Marincin. As a Flames fan, thats a blueline prospect pipeline that makes me drool.
September 12 2014, 09:09AM
It confuses me how most NA writes discredit Yakimov.
The kid had a highly successful 18 yr season. in Russia.
He had .21 GPG playing men. With limited minutes.
The last 15 years in Russia. The only players To achieve .21+ GPG at 18 in Russia
Semin .21 PGG
Ovechkin .24 GPG
Malkin .23 GPG
Kuznetsov .38 GPG 1.63G/60 age 18-20 1.29G/60
Tarasenko .21 GPG .90G/60
Slepyshev .27 GPG 1.28G/60 age 18-19 .88G/60
Yakupov .41 GPG 1.69G/60
Yakimov .21 GPG 1.28G/60
He is the prospect that intrigues me the most.
We measure our prospects against past history from leagues.
We know who he scored like at 18.
Hi Ricki, thanks for dropping in.
I have no concerns about Yakimov. I mention that offense might not be forthcoming, but most of that is in the sample size and the possibility of him being put into a shutdown role once he graduates to the NHL.
If we assume that Nugent-Hopkins and Draisaitl get the top-six minutes, and wingers to go with it, who does that leave for Yakimov? Moroz and Chase would be a nice line to offer size and scoring, but I've been a fan of this team too long to emotionally invest in that unicorn.
The alternative is something that hasn't been seen in Edmonton since the 80s - a surplus of offensively gifted centers. Dare we dream?
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Indeed. In some sense, they are different manifestations of the same basic thing (conceptually, from a complexity perspective; each with a large number of interacting pieces that together express the design in the concrete (literally, in the building case)).
I agree that her being a woman in tech is irrelevant, she's a really awesome "Social Architect" that conveys herself as a really cool person and Microsoft employee.
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SLV has taken a beating since peaking at $48. Yesterday's trading brought price to $21.96 before mounting a comeback and is up 4 1/2% in just two days. The overshoot of the 61.8% retracement level has been meaningful, so the discount for buyers is very good indeed. GLD has been racing higher since making it's low on April 15th.What say ye fools? Are we staring at the bottom of the silver market? It looks like it to me. [more]
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Stocks continued their decline from yesterday's high at 13,087 and have now fallen about 130 pts. from that high. Price is perched precariously upon it's short term white rally line and a good puncture through this line would signal that a steep sell off has begun. Fiscal Cliff meet Dow Cliff! What say ye Motley Fools that a very steep decline in stock prices is immediately in front of U.S.? http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=04fe67bd-c384-411c-816f-e3046e08b4a4 [more]
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It's always fun to catch market swings at their precise turning points and though I am very late in posting anything about the recent low, I've been kind of busy trading the low instead of writing about it. It does look like this rally will sell off a bit here, but the rally that began at 12,500 in the Dow is a classic setup for an extended rally to follow. As a general rule I use a series of technical charting indicators and a checklist, or book, which ranks probabilities as an actuarial. You'll see what I mean once you see the charts. What say the Motley Fool Crowd of this early rally phase? [more]
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Tomorrow markets will again begin a new crash, only this time there will be no long drawn out reflex rally as we saw from the March '08 lows. This one is going to be the famed 'throwing in the towel crash' of legend and will be absolutely brutal. I have no idea what the alibi will be this time, but I am sure our imaginative Press Corps. will come up with something, or perhaps more to the point events in the world are going to come to a head very quickly. There is even the possibility of a major nuclear strike against Iran as a result of their continued badgering of the ciivilized world since declaring their Revolution and taking American Hostages in 1979. Already money managers are closing deals on obtaining cash loans, some of which will be repaid quickly. This is the famed 'run to the phone bank' that occurs on the floor of the NYSE and is opined of seriously by the legendary speculator Jesse Livermore in his book 'Reminisences of a Stock Market Operator'. I've done these we will crash posts before and naturally the Bulls will always chime in with their opinions and controversies, but please use your good sense and ignore them. 'Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do." Here's the link on the last crash call, you be the judge. I'm just trying to push the poor boy on the bike out of the way of a Bus the moment before he gets hit. Nemaste' [more]
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You're probably tired of hearing this already, but the evidence has now mounted to the point at which stocks have no place to run or hide. All angle lines of support have become resistence, all oscillators and summations have been exhausted....and there is nothing left to do but fall in price from here. Even the Santa Claus Rally, much ballyhooed, has now also run out of time. No one will be waiting to see what will happen on the last day of shopping before Christmas and the performance of Retailers this year will prove God awful...as expected and covered in an earlier post about Macy's and retail in general. There is probably one more chance at getting stocks sold and shorts and puts attached to portfolios, but that chance will likely end early Monday morning as part of the continuation bounce from last Friday's close. The rise in volume on Friday was the last missing piece in the puzzle as 480 Million shares were traded on the NYSE as compared to approximately 200 Million per day, on average. That's a bit more than twice daily volume and shows that investors are already looking to bail They were just waiting for their Options to expire. The best place for insiders to hide volume is during Expiration Week, as the 'alibi' is already built in and volume is expected on these trading days....but which volume, and in which direction?. Whenever stocks rally to a 50% retracement of previous losses, whenever angle lines of support are broken, whenever market breadth turns bearish, and whenever volume rises significantly...look out below. These events rarely occur simultaneously, but when they do they spell real trouble for share prices. [more]
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Quote# 88240
Let's face the fact that being a homosexual is a disease of the mind. Not unlike a rapist, murderer, child molester, or necrophilia. These are all illnesses of the mind.
So no, I will never accept laws nor people of this kind. To me they are all grouped together. Homos are sic, so if they feel accepted they now want the laws to allow more of their sick behavior. No Sir! No no no. As a father with a son I am………done, fags, sick fu..s!
Paul Revere,
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Fundie Index: 53
Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
Quote# 88236
[re: Biblical scientific foreknowledge]
[T]he Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given instead of crucifixion.
"In this case, the Bible shows no scientific foreknowledge. By noting that Jesus died more quickly than people usually did from crucifixion, Pontius Pilate is saying what happened.
The Bible is providing valuable scientific data here. Sometimes a Nobel Prize is given based on the observation of data, even though the data are not yet well understood by the recipients of the Prize. If observing data can be enough for a Nobel Prize, then why can't it be enough for the Bible?
You keep referring to Pontius Pilate but it was the Bible and its authors who observed and published the data. Too bad many scientists didn't study the Bible with an open mind. If they had, then a greater scientific understanding would have been achieved earlier.
Andy Schlafly,
57 Comments
Fundie Index: 46
Quote# 88235
Absolutely, sw. Marriage is under attack by a well-funded homosexual lobby, and NOM is merely defending. If the homosexuals had left marriage alone everybody would have saved a lot of money.
Personally, after we assure marriase is protected, we should seek to have the sodomy laws reinstated by overturning Lawrence v. Texas. That's where homosexuals began their fight in that trumped-up lawsuit.
Mike Brooks,
NOM Blog
46 Comments
Fundie Index: 43
Quote# 88231
For me, it is very clear. Women have our own culture, which has been nearly erased by patriarchy, men, (and yes, with the collusion of some women, who, as Sonia Johnson says have "terror-bonded" with their oppressor) as has been said here. We are our own sovereign biophilic beings. Our essence has nothing to do with men/maleness, which is on the decline–from 1000 genes on the y chromosome to somewhere near 45. Since we have experienced near erasure in too many ways to count for at least the last 5000 years, I see it is imperative and absolutely necessary to have as much truly women-only space as possible to re-memeber, to re-claim, to re-joice, to re-juvenate so that we may re-trieve and be re-stored–like re-storing a battery with its charge. "Transwomen" still carry that depleted y chromosome. They are not women. Anywhere they take up space–and it seems to me the nature of the y, as it has become, is to take–they want to own. The essence of woman is entirely different. I just completed a retreat in Ashland OR on "Uncovering the Biophilic Autonomy of Women" for women only. At one point in the retreat, a huge V appeared in the sky directly over us–chem trails, perhaps, but it was still a synchronous validation of our work in women only space and phenomenal to see.
Radfem Hub
70 Comments
Fundie Index: 54
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
Quote# 88227
Even Christopher Marlowe and Shakespeare, to some extent, had some writings that were somewhat favorable of homosexuality. Now, homosexuality had not existed for about 1,000 years, between about 300 AD to 1400-1500 AD where certain mentions of it were extant in some of the classical literature of the day, because classical literature tends to bring back homosexuality as the 'cool thing', but it hadn't existed for about 1,000 years. It was, obviously, very very important to humanism, it always has been important to humanism, and whenever you get a humanist, classical approach to education, you're probably going to get the gymnasium. The gymnasiums were all built around the idea of pederasty and pedophilia.
Now, I don't want to get into a lot of the details on this, because it's very very very gross, but they trained young boys in homosexuality. This is part and parcel of the homosexual vision, still is, by the way, to this day. This is the goal, this is where they're headed, if you read the homosexual literature, which I encourage you not to do, but this is the direction that they're headed. This is the goal of humanism. The goal of humanism is to make it to Sandusky. The problem is Sandusky was prosecuted and that's an indication that we've got 2,000 years of Christianity, and these guys are not going to get away with it.
You know, Dave, I think if we're going to have a halfway decent, stable society, much like what the pilgrims had, with a divorce rate of .01%, fornication rate of 1%, and a homosexuality rate of .0005%, if we're going to have a stable society, we're going to have to get back to biblical law.
Kevin Swanson,
Right Wing Watch
55 Comments
Fundie Index: 65
Submitted By: Zagen30
Quote# 88223
I saw it[Brave], and liked a lot about it, but I'm not sure that I would take a child to see it - at least without discussing it. Parts of its message are really anti-biblical. The animation is fantastic, and Merida's beautiful red hair is mesmerizing! I also liked the theme of the importance of the famiy bond and forgiveness - particularly between mother-daughter.
But it was FILLED with spiritism and darkish magic, to the point that I felt it was preachy. It's set in pre-Christian era Scotland - with all their druid type culture. Merida learns to follow little blue lights/apparitions called wisps that lead her to her fate, where she meets a witch in a magical stonehenge-reminiscent setting (which her horse wouldn't enter into). The witch then casts a spell that is the catalyst for Merida's journey in the movie. It's taught that you should trust the wisps to lead you to a safe place and you can trust them. While I like a good fairy tale, these apparitions seemed strangely occultic, moreso than your typical "fairy godmother" or other such fairy-tale characteristics.
pistache ,
Rapture Ready
49 Comments
Fundie Index: 50
Submitted By: HappyGazpacho
Quote# 88221
[emphasis added]
I look at the "women's talk shows" for instance, and it's like, are any of them straight? Doubtful, I think. Yet the media has them in positions where they are supposed to earn our trust, loyalty, and affection.
Then they come "out" and we're still supposed to love them.
Acts5:41 ,
Rapture Ready
35 Comments
Fundie Index: 48
Submitted By: HappyGazpacho
Quote# 88216
Roberts was never a "conservative", not sure why people believe that. Furthermore, he met with Obama in private in 2009 and nobody ever learned what was talked about. This guy is complicit as everybody else in DC in the collapse of this nation. Just on a side note, how exactly is the most heavily armed society in the history of the planet getting pushed around by about 600 people?
Because a decent chunk of this country wholeheartedly supports living under a dictatorship, either because they're "useful idiots" (like liberal college students, etc.) or because they have a special interest (unions, etc.). There's another chunk that just doesn't care but seems to lean left if pushed to state their beliefs (one of my Facebook friends said "we'll see what happens and see if it's good or not" but likes all statuses that praise the healthcare monstrosity
). The last chunk, the chunk which is made up of conservatives and conservative Christians, needs to be pushed pretty far to actually stand up for themselves with force. The colonists fought and died for much less.
How is now any different from then? We're being taxed at an out-of-control level. We're beginning to see our basic freedoms taken away. How much longer before we're told which cars to buy, which food to eat, which books to read?
Rapture Ready
51 Comments
Fundie Index: 44
Quote# 88214
The only way you could know who Anderson Cooper is and not know that he is a flaming homosexual is if you are one of the dwindling few who rely on CNN for information. Now it's official, Cooper the Poop-Chuter having made his grand announcement through fellow fudge-punchee Andrew Sullivan:
"The fact is, I'm gay, always have been, always will be, and I couldn't be any more happy, comfortable with myself, and proud."
If you indulge in a relatively wholesome perversion, like licking high-heel shoes or persuading your wife to dress up in red latex, you're unlikely to feel proud of it. But if your personal identity revolves around your lust for other men's stinking anuses, a particularly disgusting form of depravity that spreads horrific diseases, the chest swells with self-satisfaction.
What a sick world we live in.
When public figures boldly step out of the closet into the warm glow of establishment adoration, or when journalists make themselves the story, it can only mean one thing: desperation. CNN's ratings recently hit their lowest mark since 1991.
In the 8 pm Eastern time slot, Bill O'Reilly beats Cooper 2,255,000 to 433,000, or by more than 5 to 1. Fortunately there's no need for O'Reilly to come out of any closets.
Dave Blount,
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Fundie Index: 79
Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog
Quote# 88207
I strongly promote expulsion from churches of women who divorce. Since our marriage contracts are worthless in the eyes of the law, then at least they can be promoted in the church. Churches need to condemn "silly" women and punish their crimes. Fundamentals of Christianity must be reintroduced to our churches and our religious leaders need to stop pandering to women. That's the same thing as evil men who manipulate "silly" women and "silly" women who allow themselves to be manipulated by evil men. A husband must submit (again) to God and his wife must submit to her husband and to God. There are important and practical reasons these rules were created. Mostly to prevent a woman's malignant narcissism from corrupting her family and then society.
Darryl X,
The Spearhead
54 Comments
Fundie Index: 102
Quote# 88202
[How could animals eat raw meat but not humans?
Why do we have to cook meat? Explain this scientifically or in any other way.]
That's just because God made it that way. Animals depend on theirselves in the wild. They were designed to kill and eat. Humans were originally created to eat vegetarian, that's why we don't need scary pointy teeth to chew and tear apart meat. It wasn't till the fall a of Adam and Eve when they were tricked by the devil to eat of the tree of righteousness. When they took a bite, God sent them out of the Garden of Eden and put two angels from heaven to guard the gate, after that day, Adam and Eve had to live in the cursed plains and that is how we got weeds. There was no vegetation described in the bible were Adam and Eve lived so they had to survive on the beasts of the earth. I don't know how they survived without getting salemonila but I suppose God told them to put them under a fire so they won't get sick, but I heard that if you immediately eat freshly killed meat you won't get sick. And I saw it on t.v. On Man vs Wild. Since animals eat a Ton of meat and are not created to have an instinct to cook it, God gave them a special digestive system to prevent most diseases from it, some animals have better tolerance than others, dogs are accepted as house pets, so God knew they would be taken care of with other foods, compared to lions. We have to cook it because we were created to eat vegetarian. And a meat withstanding diet was not his original plan.
Yahoo Answers
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Fundie Index: 61
Quote# 88198
Worldview is essential—it determines all you do-—don't allow Marxists/Satanists to shape your children. We need them to be logical which after years of indoctrination/Skinner associations (rainbows/sodomy) it will be hard to dislodge the associations that good is evil and evil is good.
We need to reinsert Christian Ethics—like we had before that Fabian Socialist Dewey inserted Satan who intentionally wanted to destroy the minds of the children in America-—like they were doing in Europe. He was intentionally making them DEPENDENT and GROUP THINKERS and Atheists so that they could create the utopian collective society. Killing both God and Individualism which came from Christians—Common Law and the Magna Carta and the USA.
Can't make slaves of independent individualists who believe in God. The few Soros-elites want to be Masters of the World so they can erect their Bohemian Groves with Satanic homosexual orgies with boys and girls and human sacrifices-—just like in Pagan Greece and Rome. They are profoundly evil-—if you don't understand how evil and depraved these people are—then you don't know anything. I have researches their beliefs-—they are profoundly evil and decadent.
Most of you don't realize how sodomy is connected to Satanism-—the life-giving force equated to excrement—it is the most efficient way to destroy Natural Law and God-—to promote homosexuality to children and make it normal again like it was before Christianity took over Western Civ. It is a learned behavior. It is not genetic—it is an acceptance of godless ideology.
As everyone should know— homosexuality was rampant in all nations with Jews being the first ones to condemn it—that condemnation becoming the dominant belief in Western Civilization when Christianity forced a uniform concept of Good and Evil.
We have all the Soros-billions forcing sodomy promotion in all popular culture and all public schools, even the military now—and it is for the minds of the boys and girls and their souls. It will flip Good and Evil upside down-—throw God out (and Natural Law) —exactly the plan of Dewey and Holmes with their moral relativism.
It will destroy all our freedom. Virtue is necessary for freedom and sodomy is always a Vice.
Free Republic
67 Comments
Fundie Index: 70
Quote# 88195
Kid Icarus Uprising has the player taking on the role of an angel. This angel Pit serves a goddess. Yes Nintendo has gone all goddess crazy in their recent games (Zelda Skyward Sword being another one). Pit is fighting the underworld to stop Medussa - a dark goddess. Not really clear why this was missed in the regionalization with over 80% of Americans believing in God, and not goddesses. Maybe Nintendo is targeting that less than 20% only with Kid Icarus Uprising.
The spiritual aspects of Kid Icarus Uprising are what bother me the most. I expected the violence. I did not expect all the goddess religious teachings. Nor did I expect all the idol content. I already mentioned the lack of regionalization in this area. There are so many creative ways this could have been handled for the American audience. She could have been an arch-angel fighting off demons. It is my hope and prayer that Nintendo regionalizes the religious content in future games.
Family Friendly Gaming
73 Comments
Fundie Index: 63
Quote# 88193
[An atheist poster is angry at jewish philosopher and about his religion.]
Now I think I understand you a little more. You are a criminal. You are torn apart by guilt about all the lives you've destroyed. You are terrified of the burning wrath of God, so you rant and rage against God. As if that will help. LOL.
Tell me, atheist criminal, how many rotten bodies are your in basement? How many corpses in your back yard? How many little boys have you raped? Confess, atheist criminal. Tell me immediately.
jewish philosopher,
Torah Philosophy
199 Comments
Fundie Index: 94
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
Quote# 88191
As an employer, we're going to be forced to chip into this ungodly health care system and we are not going to pay. I am going on the record; we will not send the federal government a dime. Now, if they send the IRS on us then it's not a health care issue then it's simply a failure to pay our tax, as John Roberts said, this is now a tax. Well, what did we have a revolution for: taxation without representation. We went to war and real Christians picked up real guns and defeated a real army. I'm not calling for an insurrection or to take up guns but I'm saying that they thought it was so serious that they pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to have a land that we live in, which is three greatest experiment in human liberty based on Christian principles the world has ever known, and all of that is at stake.
You know we always get surprised at what happened in Nazi Germany and we say, 'if I had been there I wouldn't do that,' or we think back and think, 'that was sixty or seventy years ago, how could that have happened, that was all in the past, all that draconian, totalitarian, socialist actions were in the past.' Here we have a decision, a landmark ruling which will go down in history and every single person listening to this radio program was alive and experienced this day like we did 9/11. The question is, what will our response be?
The courts are not the answer. There's checks and balances in this country and there is no check and there is no balance. We are all moving down the road toward complete annihilation. Some people want to go at 100 MPH and some people want to go at 30 or 40 or 50 MPH, but I think this is a wakeup call. The entire Supreme Court should be impeached, the entire Congress should be impeached, we should replace the president in November.
Tony Perkins,
Right Wing Watch
46 Comments
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Quote# 88182
Darwinian evolution has two major premises: a) chance or random events isclaimed to have initiated life and b) survival of the fittest of that organisms which eventually evolved to produce us humans.
Now, it has never been shown or demonstrated by science of lifeless matter spontaneously acquiring biological life as we know it.
While survival of the fittest is an every day occurences, like big fish swallowing up the small fish, random events as the INITIATOR of life is a complete denial of the role of the CREATOR OF LIFE or God or of His divine personalities.
Darwinian evolutionists should know by now that LIFE IS NOT INHERENT IN MATTER, otherwise today's rocks that have existed billions of years ago or billions of years old would be teeming with COMPLETELY NEW LIFE dateable to within decades or years that can be counted using the fingers of just our one hand from this very day.
Without God seeding matter (earth) with life and guiding life's evolution from dust and organic matter to the point of producing all the plants and the animals, and eventually us humans, the earth would have remained BARREN to this day. Evolution CANNOT begin until God seeded this earth with that seed of life.
See my earlier post on this article.
Dr. I. S. Alcordo, Ph.D.
55 Comments
Fundie Index: 47
Quote# 88179
I plan to do this whenever stateside. I will fill my shopping basket to the brim with stuff. If it is a small business shop owned by one local owner, and this owner is at the cash register, I will ask them in a very stone, neutral, non-commital face, "hey so, like, what do you think of this Obamacare anyway?"
If I get any "well, seems good for the country", or "I guess he is doing a good job" or any other of that liberal crap,
without a SINGLE WORD I am going to leave the filled basket representing lots of bucks in potential sales, right smack there at the register (on the counter, what not) and not saying a word, walk right out. I intend to do it when other people are in line, too. I'm going guerilla in the trenches now, against my "fellow Americans" who want to take us into Socialism along with their phony, narcissist dictgator of a leader. That's MY statement. Screw em. Same with those of you firing liberal employees. Make sure you are covered for lawsuits, and do it. Make these people pay for their sins against the Republic and the Forefathers.
82 Comments
Fundie Index: 81
Quote# 88177
Everyone admits that the fossils are a major problem for evolution. If asteroid strikes once caused life to advance, why don't evolutionists applaud global warming today? The whole thing is nonsense.
Scientists love evolution for a simple reason: if there is no God then they, not clergy, are society's leading intellectuals.
About murder, murder means killing innocent people. If God killed someone He knew he was not innocent,
jewish philosopher,
Torah Philosophy
56 Comments
Fundie Index: 63
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
Quote# 88174
["There are many people who look into the evidence, and come away NOT as Orthodox Jews."]
Anonymous blogger, I hate to destroy your innocent faith in humanity, however this simply proves that most people are liars and/or addicts.
jewish philosopher,
Torah Philosophy
26 Comments
Fundie Index: 48
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch
Quote# 88153
By the way, atheists earnestly insist: no one has been killed "in the name of atheism". True enough. Atheism doesn't ask anyone to do anything. However atheism removes all barriers which would prevent murder; from that point, raw human nature takes over. This is similar to arguing that blowing up a dam would not be murder. The dam breaking does no harm. It's
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Free Speech for the Clergy – We urge amendment of the Internal Revenue Code to allow a religious organization to address issues without fear of losing its tax-exempt status. We call for repeal of requirements that religious organizations send the government any personal information about their contributors.
Homosexuality ? We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country's founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable "alternative" lifestyle, in public policy, nor should "family" be redefined to include homosexual "couples." We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or belief in traditional values.
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Not only will panels decide end-of-life care, they will decide treatment for individuals. There was a doctor that spoke about how he testified in front of congress against government healthcare, and he explained that physicians will be reporting their cases to Washington on some handheld computer device, where a panel will decide which treatment options, and in which order they had to be given. He asked what would happen if he, as a doctor who knows a particular patient well--say for 35 years, were to go *against* what treatments were elected, and they told him he would be fined $100,000. When he asked, "When I do this again, because I *will* do it again" because he is actually face-to-face with the patient and knows what will be best for that patient, "Will you fine me another $100,000?" The congresscritter told him, "Oh no, Doctor. The next time you would go to jail." He said this "panel" isn't in the Healthcare Bill; it was slipped into the Stimulus Bill. He was speaking about this at some rally, and it was hair-raising. He was adamant that Obamacare be repealed. Completely. There is a video of his speech on You Tube.
My mother's doctor told her today that she should have all her surgeries and such that she needs now because after 2014, the door will be closed on those after a certain age. I could only agree with her doctor. Lord, what has become of this country You so generously blessed us with?
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Today, in the state of Colorado, we are breathing smoke from a number of wildfires burning out of control. As of this morning, near Focus on the Family, it's being reported that 15,000 acres have been consumed by fire and some 34,000 people evacuated by the Waldo Canyon fire. More to come, I'm sure. Wouldn't we all agree that it's better to prevent a forest fire, if and when possible, than treat the immense damage in its aftermath? These questions are similar to what the National Abstinence Education Association (NAEA) is asking Congress and state legislatures about our nation's approach toward pre-marital sex.
Certain questions arise: Why aren't our schools, our states and our nation placing a clear and unquestionable priority on sexual risk avoidance (SRA)? Why are we intentionally spending billions of dollars handing kids matches (condoms), which result in careless (sexual) "fires" and treating victims who have been unnecessarily burned by sex (STDs, pregnancy)? Wouldn't prevention be cheaper and healthier? "Safe" sex education – or promoting casual sex, while handing out condoms and birth control to kids – is analogous to passing out matches to kids in school, and telling them, "Be sure you play safely with these in the forest and, above all, have fun!"
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Submitted By: Aspergus
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In an atheistic civilization, morals are intrinsically fluid, and subject to change. The natural goals of such a society can only be greed, might and power. It is survival of the fittest. He who owns the most, and controls the most, wins!
Atheism is worse than idol worship. Idol worship is polytheism, the belief in many powers. It is possible to progress from many gods to belief in one God. The prime example is Abraham. Originally an idol worshipper, he eventually came to the knowledge that there can be only one true Power. The road from many powers to one power is relatively short, since the individual accepts in principle that there is something directing the universe.
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Any time you see some kind of agenda that is anti-human being, it's anti-baby, it's anti-humanity, it's anti-population growth, you're looking at something that ultimately comes from Satan himself. He hates human beings. Why? Because we are made in the image of God. We remind Satan of the God that he hates and so he wants to stir up in human beings the same kind of hatred for humanity that he has. And he'll use Planned Parenthood to do it, he will use the pro-abortion movement to do it. He will use the pro-gay movement to do it because you can't get human beings out of the homosexual lifestyle; it's not possible so that's one way to slow population growth. He can get there through the environmental movement which is flatly opposed to population growth and actually proposes abortion policies as a way of reducing pressure on the environment. So anywhere you see that anti-human agenda, you are looking at the work of Satan himself.
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