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Talk:Linksys WRT54G series
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|This page was nominated for deletion on 31 July 2011. The result of the discussion was keep.
- 1 Notability and the WRT54G models
- 2 WRT54GC Info
- 3 Question about speed/RAM
- 5 DD-WRT now runs on the WRT54G version 5!
- 6 WRT54G.net blocked by the WRT54G
- 7 Discussion
- 8 iPod notes.
- 9 WRT54GL no longer produced by Linksys?
- 10 WRT54GS v2.1
- 11 PPPoE
- 12 The Known Issues Still Exist Today (24/9/06)
- 13 WRT54GL Stock Firmware Discrepancy
- 14 The IP of this ?
- 15 How do you find out what hardware version you have please?
- 16 except WRTSL54GS
- 17 Tarifa page missing
- 18 Article is now semi-protected
- 19 Renniy's edits
- 20 WRT54GL Version 1 and 1.1 Differences.
- 21 What CPU?
- 23 CPU speed chart not consistent
- 24 Using 2 WRT54G's for added security
- 25 "Linux/GPL" === "GNU/Linux"
- 26 Spam link removal
- 27 Why delete content?
- 29 WRT54G v8 Antenna
- 31 New book - Linksys WRT54G Ultimate Hacking
- 32 Why I removed expand and original-research tags
- 33 Mislabelled unit
- 34 Performance Section: Overclocking
- 35 WRT54G-LA (does anyone knows in which product this latin american release is based.
- 36 WRT54G-TM Section
- 37 wifitastic
- 38 Netgear KWGR614
- 40 why the multiple antennae?
- 41 Differentiating
- 42 Feedback about this article in general
- 43 Request for Power adapter Information
- 44 Possibly incorrect WRT54GS RAM and FLASH sizes
- 45 Web interface
- 46 Interface Speeds Missing
Notability and the WRT54G models[edit]
I am sure we have all seen the recent AFD that was placed on this page. The subsequent discussion resulted in a keep however, significant concerns were raised regarding notability of individual products, and thus those products having thier own wikipage. So in an effort to substaintiate the notability of this product, we need to get the following in some sort of term that complies with wiki policy. This modem in particular was the catalyst for the open source firmware projects for many routers. http://www.oreillynet.com/etel/blog/2003/07/is_linksys_shirking_the_gpl_ma.html is a summary of an individuals fight to obtain GPL'd code from Linksys which they had previously neglected to supply thus breaching GPL licence. this link https://lkml.org/lkml/2003/6/7/164 is a significant discussion regarding the action taken to obtain that source and thus allow people to rewrite, debug and improve upon the original linksys code. One might say that it was this action with regard to this particular router that allowed such projects as DD-wrt to exist at all. I would argue this is notable with regard to this router becuase it was the catalyst, in that it was user "hacking" to expose the firmware and reverse it (which at the time it was done probably breaching linksys's licence) exposed the fact that the firmware was actually Linux 2.4.5 as well as another Opensource project Busybox. I would invite someone with a little more familiarity with this history to compose a paragraph for the article with references to this event. While people using and failing to comply with GPL is common rarely has it resulted in such a huge uptake of a product with the specific aim of removing the supplied interface and completely re engineering it.
benjicharlton (talk) 01:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
WRT54GC Info[edit]
Someone should add info on the WRT54GC model. It's an iPod-sized router, 1 MB of Flash and 4MB of RAM. Information available at Hacking the WRT54GC Router. Flashing with a 3rd-party firmware sounds unfeasible.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 21:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC).
- I think it needs updating, as it says "only hardware version 1.0 is available". I have sat next to me right now a router whose mfr-applied serial no sticker says "WRT54GC ver 2.0", along with a production date of 06/2006... FCC ID Q87-WRT54GCV2 for what its worth. It's also a prissy little piece of nonsense in standard form, which is why i'm on the hunt for updated, probably 3rd party firmware; there's a supposedly later version available on the Linksys site, but it only claims support for HW v1.0, and doesn't confirm that it fixes the issue at hand (the reasonably well known 5-day connection expiry bug). ---tahrey
Question about speed/RAM[edit]
I noticed that the later versions of this router have lower speed and RAM. Does this mean the later versions are actually weaker? I need to buy a new router because my current one is ont he fritz
- I can't imagine the difference betwene 200 and 216 mhz is going to make much difference, probablly just means they wen't for a slighly different model of CPU. I've heared reports that the VxWorks based versions should be avoided though (e.g. if you wan't a new one now then get a GL) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plugwash (talk • contribs) 01:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC).
As I have stated below, this is not an actual difference in the cpu (at least with the models I researched and also have personal experience with), it was a linksys-released firmware fix for a hardware bug which caused reliability problems until the CPU was overclocked to 216Mhz from 200Mhz. try installing an old (original?) version of the linux firmware on your router and then install the current one. You should notice that the CPU defaults to 216Mhz on the newer version. Jaqie Fox 17:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
This serial number is showing up in eBay auctions. Does anyone know the specs for it? --Feanor512 05:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
DD-WRT now runs on the WRT54G version 5![edit]
I have added some info regarding this development in the article, under the "Hardware versions affect firmware compatibility" section. --SausMeester 00:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Amazing! Maybe I can finally get some use out of this piece of crap router that has been sitting in my drawer for months! Kurt 11:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- added links to http://wrt-wiki.bsr-clan.de/index.php?title=Flash_Your_Version_5_WRT54G the dd-wrt wiki page that gives more info on this and describes the procedure used (how to). --SausMeester 22:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- It is now possible to install DD-WRT on a v5 model with no disassembling of the router! http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6352077661.html Amazing! I have replaced my wired Linksys BEFSR41 with the WRT54G v5 with DD-WRT on it. It is almost like a brand new Cisco router!
- If I was any good at writing, I would add something about it to the article. :) Kurt 02:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- DD-WRT Now functions on the WRT54GS v5 also. JavaDog 01:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
WRT54G.net blocked by the WRT54G[edit]
If trying to access WRT54G.net via my WRT54G (no idea which version... where to check that?), I get a host not found error. The site works from elsewhere... --Anonymous 14:48, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- To check your hardware revision number, pick up your WRT54G and look for the large, silver sticker. Somewhere on this sticker it will read something like "WRT54G ver. 1.1" (as on my router). As for the website you mentioned, I have no trouble sccessing it with my DSL setup. Maybe it was a temporary site outage? — EagleOne\Talk 21:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- ...it's not true, there must be something else the matter with your configuration (tried it from multiple WRT54G(L)s). --184.108.40.206 19:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Changing all occurences of the term "SRAM" to the more general term "RAM". The WRT54G actually uses SDRAM, a type of DRAM. SRAM is very different and completely unsuited for a low speed, cost sensitive consumer device like the WRT54G. Google image search finds many high resolution images of the WRT54G mainboard which can be used to verify this info. Additionally, this linksysinfo.org page has high resolution photos of the various WRT54G/GS models and a comparison chart listing the memory chips used. The WRT54G versions 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and WRT54GS versions 1.0 and 1.1 all use ISSI brand SDR SDRAM chips. The WRT54G versions 2.2 and 3.0 use Hynix brand DDR SDRAM chips. ISSI part numbers are listed here: ISSI Product Guide PDF. Hynix part numbers are listed here: Hynix Part Numbers PDF. Since the specific variety of RAM is not particularly relevant to the article, it is sensible to just use the general term RAM instead of the more specific term SDRAM. But either term is better than SRAM, which is factually incorrect. --Ryanrs 01:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
"The WRT54G is unique among consumer-level network devices in that Linksys developers have released the source code for the router's firmware under the GPL."
- There's nothing unique about this fact. Linksys and several other access point vendors use Linux across their product lines and they publish the GPL portions of their source code. What makes the WRT54G stand out is that it was 1.) one of the first to have its source code released under the GPL, 2.) it's insanely cheap cost, and 3.) hardware is easily hackable. Jgw 21:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- Can you name any other vendors who use Linux in consumer-level access points?
- Yes, I can in fact. OpenWRT's Table of Hardware Infil00p 07:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
- Can you name any other vendors who use Linux in consumer-level access points?
WRTSL54GS version 1: 'Flash memory' column: 8 MB / 'Notes' column: Uses 16MB of Intel TE28F640 flash ... Which one is correct ??? Teo 05:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
iPod notes.[edit]
Is there any way we could keep the notes that were edited out here? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WRT54G&diff=42660905&oldid=42644088
Maybe a link to another site with these notes or something. I found these really usefull, but I understand how they can be considred inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Sharky 03:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
WRT54GL no longer produced by Linksys?[edit]
All over the web, reports have popped up that Linksys has (already!) seized production of the WRT54GL in a sudden reversal of course (as this product was intended to supply Linux/third party firmware-enthousiasts when they introduced versions of their products that would no longer support linux/third party firmwares).
See [1] this topic of the DD-WRT forum for example.
However, personally it is still unclear to me whether it is just generally believed that the WRT54GL is no longer being made, or if this is a solid fact.
I think that IF this is a solid fact, there should be an addition to the article, firstly describing how and why Linksys introduced the GL in the first place, and then describing it's retirement. --SausMeester 22:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Recently, more or less backed reports have sprung up, saying that Linksys has, in a complete reversal of course, already decided to stop producing the WRT54GL. At this point it is still hard to see whether this is a fact, with contradictory comments coming from various Linksys officials, but the availability of this model in the market seems to be declining.
I removed the quote above from the article. While the discussion forum cited above is interesting, I don't think it rises to the level where it makes a good reference for an encyclopedia. Regarding availablity, although the GL model had been out-of-stock, they currently seems to be available at Amazon and other places online. Until there is a little more solid evidence, this discussion might be better on the talk page than in the article. --Michaelfavor 04:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Incorrect. It appears that the above rumors are inaccurate--I just bought a WRT54GL with a manufacture date of July 2006. It is, however, a 1.1 model, which makes me think that the grain of truth from March may have been that they stopped making the 1.0 version then. Tlesher 00:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
My brand-new WRT54GL has a manufacturing date of August 2006, so this is definitely incorrect. -- Ranma 16:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I just purchased a WRT54GL. The serial number starts with CLC7 and the label on the router body indicates it is WRT54GL v1.1 manufactured 09/2007. 220.127.116.11 04:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
WRT54GS v2.1[edit]
Hi peeps,
I just made an edit in regards to the speed of WRT54GS v2.1. It's CPU speed is actually 216Mhz and not 200Mhz as previously mentioned. I got the data off my own router.
Adi —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adisor19 (talk • contribs) 18:39, June 21, 2006 (UTC)
IIRC this was actually a firmware upgrade workaround from linksys to fix hardware reliability problems which disappeared when the CPU was overclocked to 216Mhz from 200Mhz. I confirmed this with different firmware versions for my own WRT54GSv3. Jaqie Fox 02:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Hallo. would anyone know if this router supports PPPoE? i am looking to purchase one and PPPoE is necessary component of the possible router. thanx.
Yes, at least for the WRT54GL. --Designatevoid 17:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, the WRT54GSv3 also supports it. Jaqie Fox 03:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The Known Issues Still Exist Today (24/9/06)[edit]
The known issues still exist for this model when come out-of-box?
So whoever bought this model from Linksys would need immediate firmware upgrade?
Appreciate your reply.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Continuum.trio (talk • contribs).
WRT54GL Stock Firmware Discrepancy[edit]
The downloadable firmware for the WRT54GL from the Linksys site [2] says that it is version 4.30.2 but when you install it the firmware version is 4.30.5. I updated the page to state that the 4.30.5 version is the latest available for download. --Designatevoid 17:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
The IP of this ?[edit]
How call this router without DHCP, with a fixed IP? What is the IP of this router? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs)
How do you find out what hardware version you have please?[edit]
Can someone please tell me (or mention in the article) how to tell what version of the hardware a WRT54G router has please? Thanks, --User:Rebroad 20:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The relevant information is in the article. Check the first few digits of your router's serial number and compare them to the S/N prefixes in the table.
except WRTSL54GS[edit]
The devices have two removable antennas connected through Reverse Polarity TNC connectors (except WRTSL54GS).
The sentence was not clear to me. What does this "except" apply to? Number of antennas or type of connectors? The webpage of WRTSL54GS given in the article shows a photo of the device, clearly with a single antenna. I suppose that my correction is (no pun intended) correct. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saimhe (talk • contribs) 08:25, November 27, 2006 (UTC)
Tarifa page missing[edit]
The link to Tarifa under the "Third Party Firmware Projects" heading goes to the page for the geographical location in Spain. I couldn't find a page for the firmware project "Tarifa", nor could I find a disambiguation page for Tarifa. Could someone see about either making one, or if I just missed it somehow. Maybe it should be an external link.
Article is now semi-protected[edit]
Ok, after our trouble-maker decided to come back for a second day of vandalism, I relisted this article on requests for page protection and have been granted semi-protection. I also got my user page protected at the same time, and Sveasoft has also been protected in a separate action. So no more petty reverting or nonsense about "RMS' Johnson". If he wants to vandalise any protected page, he's going to have to get an account, and admins are usually pretty quick to block vandalism-only accounts. In case you don't know what to do, hop on over to Administrator intervention against vandalism and follow the instructions provided. --Imroy 02:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Someone must hate the GNU public license! :-( --126.96.36.199 22:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place to work out personal issues Tokachu. Please keep the non-NPOV edits out of Wikipedia and use proper email or other channels for personal problems. Using open proxies for updates like the above is also an improper use of Wikipedia.
Renniy's edits[edit]
Renniy (a suspected sock-puppet) and a number of anonymous IP addresses has been reverting some relatively minor but important points about a number of distros. Can someone set me straight on these issues:
- The DD-WRT article says that it was based on Sveasoft, but is now based on OpenWRT. But is there a paid version as well as the free one?
- Are old versions of Sveasoft available for free?
- Are Tomato and X-Wrt minor or major distros?
That last one is pretty subjective.
It would be really nice if we could stop this petty fighting and get down to the facts. Engaging in edit wars with multiple sock-puppets just muddies the waters and does not help the situation. --Imroy 16:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Renniy's edits are highly suspicious as he attacks other editors, removes bad info about Sveasoft and chnages DD-WRT info to make it seem that DD-WRT is still based off Sveasoft. Renniy if you want to get anything done you're going to have to discuss it on the talk page first as you have about 3 or 4 editors reverting your changes on sight. BJTalk 17:33, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I am trying to restore NPOV for WRT54G and Sveasoft. Please stop reverting my edits and comments on the discussion page and stop defacing my user page. Sveasoft has paid AND free versions available. DD-WRT was based on Alchemy and now is based on the Alchemy userspace code and the OpenWRT linux kernel code. Tomato and XWRT are new projects and can't (yet) be considered major. RenniyTalk 17:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't really matter what it is based off, unless you have a source that backs up what your saying we go with what the offical source says and they say it is based of openWRT. BJTalk 18:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- the source code itself is self-documenting. The userspace code is from Alchemy (which is itself an extension of the Linksys code) and the kernel a modified Linux-MIPS kernel with additions from Openwrt RenniyTalk 18:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- No idea about anything with DD-WRT and Sveasoft, but moved Tomato to a major project. For example, it's clearly become one of the most popular firmware projects on linksysinfo.org. Mr. Zarniwoop 18:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- I agree it should be a major project as all the minor projects are just forks of bigger projects. BJTalk 18:26, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Tomato has been around for just a couple of months. I agree it could become a major project but needs more time. I guess HyperWRT could be considered a minor project now as it seems many HyperWRT users have hopped from HypertWRT to Tomato since Tofu wrote both. I think Tomato needs to be around longer before it is considered a major project. RenniyTalk 18:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Also it has it's own page, also making it "major". BJTalk 18:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Fon, Coova, and a couple of others have their own pages but I don't see any of them as major. Let's leave Tomato where it is (major). We can move it if it isn't receiving the same attention in a couple of months. RenniyTalk 18:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Also it has it's own page, also making it "major". BJTalk 18:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Renniy, you'd get more credibility if your ID had more of a history instead of just showing up a few days ago after an edit war and then a single-minded focus on editing WRT54G and Sveasoft. It gives the impression that you have an axe to grind. Mr. Zarniwoop 21:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Mr- Zarniwoop - I see you are also a newly registered member. I'm just a RedSox fan. Don' take it personal. RenniyTalk 22:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- No, I've been editing Wikipedia articles with this ID for almost a year now. And have contributed to the Red Sox article, actually. You showed up a few days ago after an edit war and focus purely on Sveasoft. Hence my advice to you. Mr. Zarniwoop 23:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Mr- Zarniwoop - I see you are also a newly registered member. I'm just a RedSox fan. Don' take it personal. RenniyTalk 22:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
WRT54GL Version 1 and 1.1 Differences.[edit]
It should be noted that the vlan numbering is different from version 1 and 1.1 they are in fact in reverse order. this can be seen on the OpenWRT wiki http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration#head-b62c144b9886b221e0c4b870edb0dd23a7b6acab with comments written "LAN is ports 0-3, WAN is port 4"
-Rip —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
What CPU?[edit]
The article talks of CPU speeds, but not what archetecture of CPU it is. I'm pretty sure it is MIPS based. Perhaps this should be confirmed and mentioned?
Done. --22.214.171.124 00:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Should it really be noted if it's uncertain information? I'm removing this section as of now, until something certain can be reinforced. You wouldn't find uncertainty in an encyclopedia article. JavaDog 01:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
CPU speed chart not consistent[edit]
I noticed the CPU speed chart has a smattering of 200 and 216Mhz for the same CPU. As per my own research and personal experience with several WRT54G and GS versions, Linksys released a firmware upgrade a year or more ago (IIRC) that overclocked the 200Mhz series of CPUs from 200Mhz to 216Mhz in order to fix a hardware reliability problem. I feel I am too new to just edit the main page to reflect this fact, but I feel that listing the speeds haphazardly like that is counterintuitive and counterproductive. I don't care whether it lists the firmware-upgraded speed (216) or the stock speed (200) of the chip, but shouldn't the article at least be consistent? Jaqie Fox 04:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- My $0.02 is that the speed reflects the operating speed of the device, not necessarily the manufacturing speed. If the company is selling units at 216 Mhz, it's obviously safe (or even better than at 200). If anything, the 200 Mhz units are under-clocked. I think that there's enough notice about the 216 Mhz phenomena that the people who actually care about the speed will want to know that their unit might not work at 200 Mhz if they tweak something on purpose or otherwise. Just a thought. I'm just a user. --btrotter 17:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Using 2 WRT54G's for added security[edit]
I have lots of ports on my WRT54G V5 router open for numerous family software applications that are all on one computer and I would like to isolate these risky activities from the rest of my network. I recently read I could use two routers, plug one router into another, assign each a different starting IP address (such as 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1). Then attach my at-risk PCs--to the router that's directly connected to my broadband modem, and all other computers to the second router. Internet traffic to and from the unsafe PC area would then not reach my secure subnetwork at all. I currently use a WRT54G V5...does buying a second one and using it as described make sense? It sounds like a rather inexpensive way to add security to my network. I assume the second router gets connected from it's internet jack to one of the port jacks on the first router? Is there anything else that would need to be changed or set in either router to make this work? Can I please ask if u respond to try and keep your response at a level that a non expert could understand.....I would really appreciate it! Thanks for everyones advice! Evetsmd 13:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- Since you're new here, I should point out that Wikipedia is not a support forum. We are here to write encyclopaedic articles and these "talk" pages are here to discuss issues with said articles. This is not the place to ask for technical help. Since I'm not a complete bastard, I will say that a second router is likely unnecessary and suggest you read up on routers, firewalls, possibly even DMZ's and VLAN's. But that is all I will say. I suggest you find a more suitable forum to ask questions. Thank you. --Imroy 14:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
"Linux/GPL" === "GNU/Linux"[edit]
From the article:
- DD-WRT Paid and free versions available. (Linux/GPL)
To my way of thinking, "Linux + GPL" is exactly what the phrase "GNU/Linux" is defined to mean. I was going to edit it to GNU/Linux myself, but then thought that virtually anyone interested in DD-WRT would be inclined towards "GNU/Linux" by default whenever they are talking about "Linux + GPL", and I expected then that they must have written Linux + GPL for a reason then. Long boring story short, I'm asking whether Linux + GPL is something slightly more meaningful than GNU/Linux in the context of this article, or whether it's the same thing and therefore changed to GNU/Linux.
Stuart Morrow 17:40, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- "GNU/Linux" implies GNU userspace and a Linux kernel. In the case of embedded devices such as the wrt54g's firmware, the userspace is mostly uClibc and Busybox, which is not FSF GNU software. So Linux/GPL is actually more appropriate in this case (ignoring that there are probably some other BSD-style licensed or other programs).
- Matt, 28 May 2007
Spam link removal[edit]
Part of my contribution was removed on the basis of it being link spam. As a newbie to wiki's I suppose a mistake or two is to be expected. I am however confused why external links to worldspot.net, wifitastic, tarifa etc etc are 'OK' whereas my link to skyrove.com was not OK. Was it the location or way I did it that offended?
I was simply trying to ensure reference to all known wrt54g software projects appeared in the wiki and one I know of is missing. I am not associated with or benefit from skyrove.com, just trying to be a good wiki citizen without success apparently.
JPWhiteFitMan 00:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Why delete content?[edit]
My addition to the page was removed, why? I added CoovaAP to the list of third party firmwares, because IT IS. Why was it removed?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlanmac (talk • contribs)
- I removed it because you are spamming. Please stop adding links to your own website. (Requestion 15:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC))
WRT54G EU[edit]
Sorry if this is not the right spot, but I noticed no mention of the WRT54G EU? Is this a new model, or something else from Linksys? Recently purchased it of Komplett.ie.
Sully 00:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
The box my Linksys came in says WRT54G-CA (Canadian) but the unit itself is labelled only WRT54G. As far as I can tell it's identical to the US version, probably the same is true for the European version. CarstenKlapp 14:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
WRT54G v8 Antenna[edit]
Clarified table, the antennas on the v8 are not "fixed" per se. The antennas can be reoriented, they just can't be unscrewed for upgrades like older revisions the unit. I own this unit, here's a link to confirm the antennas: verify http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Antennas&message.id=102
CarstenKlapp 14:50, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linksys_WRT54G_series&curid=1151761&diff=142961479&oldid=142531520 adds "CDFG" as a number. While this may be possible, I doubt it as that does not go with the hexidecimal numbering scheme linksys uses. Someone want to verify this either way? Jaqie Fox 03:46, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
New book - Linksys WRT54G Ultimate Hacking[edit]
I have a linksys router and I found this reference book today, it has 386 pages, looks very well researched, with lots of internal diagrams, and very technical detailed. This is the only published book I've seen on the subject. Its very broad coverage of available firmware.
- Title :- Linksys WRT54G Ultimate Hacking
- Copyright © 2007 by Elsevier, Inc.
- Authors Paul Asadoorian & Larry Pesce
- Publisher Syngress
--Joewski 05:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
This was tagged for expansion in April. As of July, it's one of the more comprehensive technical articles on Wikipedia, and has seen much editing even this month. As to original research, I would concede that much information in this article might not be found anywhere else in a single page, but that all of the information can be verified by collecting the research of others. Nothing on this page appears "made up". This page might be an "original collection" of research, but not by any means a collection of "original research." Finally, this article is very good and covers a very popular subject. It's a perfect example of why Wikipedia exists in the first place. Marc W. Abel 17:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Mislabelled unit[edit]
My router is a WRT54GL, as reported by the administration tool -- however, the stickers on the unit say it's a version 3 WRT54G. (This is why I've never been able to upgrade the firmware till now -- I didn't notice the model number the utility was reporting.) Is this an isolated incident, or have other people also reported mislabelled routers? CarrerCrytharis 02:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Performance Section: Overclocking[edit]
Although this may be covered elsewhere, it may good to mention in the Performance section why overclocking is even done to these routers. Does it make it more responsive (faster ping times) and allow more simultaneous throughput? Or is it more useful when running applications (such as web servers) on the router? Someone who has the answers, please drop a sentence in. Thanks. Slippyd (talk) 06:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
WRT54G-LA (does anyone knows in which product this latin american release is based.[edit]
Hi. I've read through the article trying to see if there's any mention about this version of the product that is sold here in Brazil named the WRT54G-LA. This nomenclature causes a lot of confusion, and the wikipedia article also does not shine any light on the subject. In fact, not even the Linksys home page has information about this product. I don't know if it's a WRT54G, with VxWorks and only 2MB of flash memory, or if it is a WRT54GL, compatible with Linux, with the possibility of using third-party firmware... Does any one knows the answer to this issue? Perhaps it would be good to update the article with information regarding these locally released product versions, so that people overseas would be able to tie the local product with the "official" released products. Loudenvier (talk) 16:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
WRT54G-TM Section[edit]
The section on the WRT54G-TM ends with the following grammatically-incorrect sentence:
"Upgrading to third party firmware via JTAG method, upgrade CFE to WRT54GL 1.1, allows flash upgrade as the stock WRT54G-TM CFE prevents third party firmware upgrades."
What, exactly, is being said here? And, what is meant by the acronyms "JTAG" and "CFE?" They are not defined, or even mentioned, elsewhere in the article.
They are blocking wifitastic from being created as well. Wiki isn't what it used to be.--Ron John (talk) 06:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- It is exactly as it used to be. Whoever keeps creating the wifitastic article cannot show notability, so the article gets nuked. They did it so many times instead of create and nuke, creation of it has been banned. If you reckon you can show notability then you go over to deletion review or whoever, and then you will be able to create it. What Wikipedia does and thinks has nothing to do with the Linksys WRT54G series - hence why the comment keeps getting reverted from there. Wongm (talk) 06:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Well I don't live on wiki, so I'm a novice. It keeps getting nuked by this guy User talk:NawlinWiki. Well can you do it, I really think wifitastic is notable!--Ron John (talk) 07:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC) BTW I was the one that was trying to create it.--Ron John (talk) 07:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why not draft the article in your user space (User:Ronjohn/Wifitastic), get it into a ready state and then ask for feedback from User:NawlinWiki and others? I'll be happy to provide feedback, just leave me a message on your talk page when it's ready. One question, though: Are you affiliated in any way with Wifitastic? --Clubjuggle T/C 12:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
No I'm not affliated with them at all. I dont even have an account. However their idea of using opensource wireless software openwrt for users to share their bandwidth and the cost of their internet with neighbors I believe is wiki worth. I did draft an article to the best of my ability but you said it sucked and I'm only a novice user, so I just gave up cause it took me like 45 mins to write it up with all the wiki programming language so to speak and then within minutes you come delete it. I'll work on it one last time....Ron John (talk) 08:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC) IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO HELP (DON'T ANYONE REALLY READS DISCUSSION, PLEASE HELP) at User:Ronjohn/WifiTastic
- When articles have been deleted, unless they were abusive or similar, you would usually be able to get a copy put in your userspace on request. —Reedy 20:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Netgear KWGR614[edit]
Perhaps it's worth pointing that there's a new "open source router" out there?
184.108.40.206 (talk) 10:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I changed the incorrect name in the main article, it was listed as "WRT54GS", and it should have been "WTR54GS". I'm sure this is considered the same family as WRT54, but it has a different name, so does it really belong in the "WRT54 series" page?
Personal opinion: I don't know how this router works for other people, but I feel it is a piece of junk, because it overheats in about 2 hours, if I actually use the wireless connection. I'm also afraid to try dd-wrt on it, because of the reports of other people bricking it, and the lack of a jtag port (I have WTR54GS V2.0 router.)
On the 2.0/2.1 hardware, it has been reported that RAM can be upgraded to 32 Meg by replacing the existing ram chip with a IS42S32800 RAM chip, and the FlashROM can be upggraded to 4 Meg with a MX29LV320ABCT FlashROM chip. After adding the ram, enable it with the following lines:
nvram set sdram_init=0x2008 nvram set sdram_ncdl=0 nvram commit reboot
references: http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21959 pages 15 and 16
why the multiple antennae?[edit]
is one to receive a wireless signal, and the other for broadcasting?
--Jerome Potts (talk) 20:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
If you want to tell which model you have, you can:
Look at the device for markings or Login remotely if you have an alternate firmware and run a command shell to use the command: cat /proc/cpuinfo
Full Decent (talk) 02:48, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Feedback about this article in general[edit]
I just wanted to say that this article is fantastic. The amount of information included here is extremely invaluable. This article shines like a gem. Those working on this article, you deserve to know that. Resistordie (talk) 23:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Request for Power adapter Information[edit]
This is an excellent article and has a huge amount of very valuable information. I would find the addition of the Power Requirements and Power adapter information very useful as well. -jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 21:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Possibly incorrect WRT54GS RAM and FLASH sizes[edit]
Flash and RAM sizes for WRT54GS differ consideraby between this page and this page. Could someone confirm which one is correct?
Web interface[edit]
That's interesting, a search for "web" yields very little (See "Default settings" section), "hypertext" returns nothing. Shouldn't this article say that its configuration is through a web server? And BTW, which web server software did they resort to? --Jerome Potts (talk) 03:40, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Interface Speeds Missing[edit]
I see no mention of the port speeds. MB/sec or GB/sec. Shouldn't that be an obvious thing to include? Jmatxx (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


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Personally, I read a lot of old Defenders issues, back from when Hulk, Namor, Strange, and Silver Surfer made up the team. To date, it's probably my favorite team. I read the limited series recently put out, and it was pretty good, but I didn't like the "Silvery Q-tip" look of the Surfer. I really would like these guys to come back in a real series, but thats not realistic anymore, considering Hulk hates Namor and Strange right now. And in the Ultimates universe, Hulk is kinda dead. What do you think about reviving the team?
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That the only way to do it, err that is the 2nd wave of Defenders, Hellcat, Valkarie, Gargoyle,and Nighthawk.......Clea and the Doctor would be cool to.
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To me the core members were Dr. Strange, Nighthawk, Hulk, Valkarie, Hellcat, Hellstrom, and Gargoyle. It would be cool to add the Black Knight into that mix. But come on Blazing Skull and Colossus as Defenders? It sounds like somebody just thrown in a bunch of chracters he likes to make a team, and Marvel approved it.
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Namor or the Hulk should never be on a team. Their characters are better loners. Strange is too powerful for a team like this and should be a Mighty Avenger, but more like someone they can call when the need is great.
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Recreating teams / titles from the past doesn't always work well. Sometimes we just have to be thankful for the issues we have and hope that any future versions of said teams don't disappoint.
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The templates on this page are designed to be pasted up on 20"x20" or 19"x19" or 18"x18" boards, the standard sizes for most board games. They can be printed on most home printers onto separate sheets of 8 1/2"x11" paper and pasted together to make a full-sized game board.
You can download the free full-sized higher-resolution PDFs of these games here.
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- In the print setting window, under Page Handling, select "Tile All Pages."
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You can make a homemade Monopoly board by stringing together this basic template.
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Subaru Tecnica International is preparing to unveil performance-tuned concepts based on the XV Crosstrek Hybrid and Levorg wagons at the Tokyo Auto Salon.
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A couple of months ago, Subaru rolled out a series of minor enhancements for the Impreza, and now it's performed a similar upgrade to its more rugged counterpart, the XV Crosstrek. For 2015, the XV benefits from available EyeSight driver assistance suite, steering-responsive fog lights and a new 6.2-inch touchscreen infotainment system (with a seven-inch version on higher-spec models).
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Is LCY The Way To Go? Can We Park Our Hopes On The Soldiers Of London City Airport?
We've been having an argument for years in this country about Heathrow and whether to expand it and how to expand it and blah blah blah. But some people think that the solution to these problems lies far away from Heathrow entirely. Where you ask? Where is this magical place? What is this magical solution? What is magic? Is it real? Is it the magic involved in how we connect with others and can fall in love and feel sparks and stuff? Is 'magic' just another word for what we now call science? Is it a thing those people do? You know, the ones who do magic proper and professionally, can't remember what they are called. I'm such a dumb dumb! Any whoo, I'm talking about whagwan with the London City Airport! Having an airport in the city has many advantages, for instance, parking at LCY (London City Airport) is phenomenally easy as it is a smaller place.
And more city based airports means less emissions in the shepherding thousands of passengers every day from airports to the city they actually wanted to go to! It's a win, win, win situation! SO why isn't it happening?
Well I think it's because some fat cats have some vested interests in it not happening and that just makes me so mad I could come out with my fists wrapped in metal chains and punch them in the gob! But I wont, I'll keep cool, and I'll figure it out. I'll count to ten, and I'll focus, and I'll figure it out, That's what I've learnt to do, that's what I know I can do, that's what I'll do. For now, for then, for me, for you, for us, forever.
There are so many points of contention around the political spectrum at this current point in current time they seem to be particularly present, particularly violent, and particularly extreme. It seems to me that large swathes of the population feel completely alienated from the political establishment, a lot of people feel (and they are probably right to feel like this) that those in the political establishment have become completely disconnected from what is supposed to be there role, who they are supposed to represent, why they are there in the first place. They have become so immersed in the push and pull of their world that they are now off it, just another cog in the endless sludging of power and hegemony.
H Clinton and other banking/political elites breaking ground on the new Goldman Sachs building in 2005
They're right. These people are very, very much completely disconnected from everything. They're not making the world a better place. They're not doing anything.
So: To whom do we turn?
In Praise Of That Not So Often Praised: Warrington And It's Orangeries
Does mass media and global communication bring us closer together? Does it tend to turn our eyes toward interesting and surprising places? Does it really expand our horizons? It's really difficult to say. I fear that whilst it means we are all there looking, there is not a desperate diversity in what we are looking at. The eyes of the world point in only a few directions. There is a short list of that which is being looked at and a long list of those doing the looking. We look at America, at New York, we look at Rihanna, we look at Facebook, we look at the rich and the famous, we look at London, we look at Syria. But do our eyes turn to places that we would not turn without the internet? Not on a mass scale. Not really. They don't often turn to Warrington…
But it's an interesting place. 20 miles East of Liverpool and 16 miles West of Manchester, it nestles between these two beasts of the North and quietly goes about its business in relative peace. Originally settled by the Romans, as it was a vital crossing point on the river Mersey and then resettled by the Saxons, Warrington became an important market town due to its location at the lowest bridging point of the River Mersey. It is due to this period of boom that Warrington developed its own style of textile and tool production, a tradition which stretches forward to this day. Warrington was the host to the countries first Ikea. Warrington hosts one of the countries most extravagant swing bridges:
Warrington was the first place to field a candidate from the Social Democrat party. The first MMR vaccine ever to be administered in the whole country was administered in Warrington. And then there's the Orangeries. In Warrington Orangeries are, for some reason, a super big deal. A super big deal. They're everywhere and they are quite excessive. The array of Orangeries in Warrington is really something. It'll blow your mind right of its head place. Go check them out RIGHT NOW.…
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'What's under foot Legolas?'
'Why, I barely feel anything…'
'Indeed you wouldn't, we are walking on air old friend'
'How can that be?'
'Well if you forget where you're walking Legolas, anything can happen…'
What's under your feet, old friend? Is it mud and dirt? Is it a thick rich carpet? Are your toes tickled by fur? IS it flat and hard? Is it rough and difficult? Do your feet sink into a softness? Is it wood? Is it rock? What is it? Well for me it is now wood, fine pure and beautiful wood. Under every step. I take my shoes of and my socks off and I walk across the cool wood floor underneath my feet and I groan with pleasure. I moan and groan and shiver with pleasure. I just really, really love it.
There is something very nice and lovely about bare feet on a wooden floor. I like how it's cool and refreshing and relaxing. Like the other side of the pillow on a Sunday morning.
Bare feet on a fresh oak floor,
Sit tight and see us,
New life breathed into old wood,
held strong by time and wise hands,
Laid flat and steady,
Trusty wood, Strong wood,
Fresh Oak,
Under bare feet.…
Student Loans – our childrens' debt and what we can do
Like many mothers out there, whose sprogs have up sticks and left home, I worry about their financial situation. I think back to the time when I left home and how difficult I initially found it to budget and control my finances. However, my three kids (Tom, 31, June, 24 and Elspeth, 22) have got a economical issue bigger and heavier to contend with.
'When the kids came along a few months later, me and the hubby were ready.'
When I left my childhood home of Little Totham to make the big move to Goldhanger at the young age of 21, I knew how much money I had and how much money I was going to make in the future. I'd been diligently saving since I left school at 16, working at an estate agents during the week and picking up shifts at my local pub during the weekend. When I left Mum and Dad to move in with Nigel, after our wedding, I had quite the nest egg saved up!! When the kids came along a few months later, me and the hubby were ready. Whilst I stayed at home to raise little Tom, Nige went on the road as a salesman, he struggled to get consistent sales, but I always knew he was trying his best. And at least we had my savings to fall back on and no real debts, (Nige never liked us to spend beyond our means, his thriftiness was one of the reasons why I loved him so much) unlike my unlucky kids!!
'I was overcome with fear that all my kids should forever be trying to pay off their tuition fees'
All three of mine, bright sparks that they are, went off to University. I was the proudest Mother in Essex when Tom made it into Birmingham Uni, even though I knew it was a long way away and we wouldn't be able to support him all the way. This was in 1985, so he didn't have to pay any tuition fees, but he did have to take some money out to support himself. June spent 5 years on becoming a doctor in London, I was SO proud of her when she graduated, sadly our Nigel wasn't there to see it. But after all the training she decided to go back to Uni and study History. 8 years of full time study had left her in debt, with me barely being able to support myself and little Elspeth, let alone her and Tom. So, when it came time for my baby Elspeth to fly the coop and travel to Cardiff for her Graphics Design course, I was overcome with fear that all my kids should forever be trying to pay off their tuition fees AND maintenance loans.
'I sent them little care packages with notes hidden inside them: I told them that I loved them.'
I'm going to tell you know what I did to help my kids out of their financial problems…nothing. I did nothing! I could do – nothing! Our job as Mum's is to love, cherish and support our children from the time they pop out until we pop our clogs. But we can't well do this, as well as pay off their debts and have time for ourselves at the same time, now can we?! That's why, whenever I panicked over Tom's redundancy, or found a reminder letter for Elspeth's water bill I did all I could do. I rang them, I sent them little care packages with notes hidden inside them: I told them that I loved them. I trust that me and Nigel did the best we could do raising them, and that they'll find their own way through life. At the end of the day I know that their Father is looking down on them with pride, and when I talk to him at the end of each day I always make sure to reassure him that they're going to be alright in the end.…


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Hotel Leonardo Da Vinci places you in Historic Center - Downtown, within a leisurely stroll of popular sights such as Fortezza da Basso and Santa Maria Novella Basilica and Museum. This 70-room, 4-star hotel has conveniences like free breakfast, a bar/lounge, and free in-room WiFi. Located centrally in Florence, it's also close to Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Flower and Ponte Vecchio.
Free buffet breakfast is included with your stay. Savor a meal from the comfort of your room with 24-hour room service, or make new friends over drinks at the bar/lounge.
The 70 rooms are soundproofed and have an array of amenities, including minibars, safes, and phones. Guests can enjoy LED TVs and stay connected with free WiFi and wired Internet. Bathrooms have hair dryers and bidets. Desks are also available.
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At Hotel Leonardo Da Vinci, guests have access to free WiFi in public areas. Self parking is available for EUR 15 per night. The front desk has multilingual staff standing by 24 hours a day to assist with concierge services and luggage storage.
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- Free buffet breakfast
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A bar/lounge is on site where guests can unwind with a drink. A complimentary breakfast is offered. Public areas are equipped with complimentary high-speed wired and wireless Internet access.
This Florence hotel also offers tour/ticket assistance, multilingual staff, and concierge services. Parking is available onsite for a surcharge.
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Hotel Leonardo Da Vinci offers 70 air-conditioned accommodations with minibars and safes. LED televisions are featured in guestrooms. Bathrooms include bathtubs or showers, bidets, and hair dryers.
This Florence hotel provides complimentary wired and wireless high-speed Internet access. Business-friendly amenities include desks and phones. Housekeeping is provided daily.
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I have read the two recent posts that Glen Williams has asked that you
forward to hosta-open readers.
There seems to be something behind or within the posts that are puzzling
to me. I wondered if they appeared puzzling to other readers as well.
Let me try to summarize how I interpreted these posts.
Glen explained that he was proposing a New Question/Answer Column in the
Hosta Journal in which he would be the Arbitrator for selection of
questions to be answered by appropriate people he would select. The
criteria of the questions and answers to be selected would be whether
information being discussed was a fact or merely an opinion about a
subject.. The ground rules included the prohibition of any questions
and answers on hosta politics. Glen would use the hosta robins and their
members as resources for these questions and answers. He solicited
questions and expected hundreds by Sunday.
In my mind red flags started to wave, sirens went off and ringing and
clanging bells suggested that huge trucks with loads of large rocks were
backing up, indicating DANGER. I asked myself "What is happening?" Why
doesn't Glen subscribe to hosta-open and discuss this with everyone
there directly? Is he going to continue discussion each time through
you? No offence intended, but this seems very clumsy to me.
Now my questions to Glen....What is hosta politics? Is this an attempt
by someone in political power (such as a former secret hosta policeman,
for example) to control others by restrictions/rules/ regulations? Does
being an Arbitrator give one person power and authority to decide Truth
(also known as facts) from Fiction (also called mere opinion)? Does
selection of questions and "correct" answers
give undue power and manipulative control to one person? And/or his
friends? Who decides whether the Arbitrator is competent in science ,
for example, to determine fact from opinion?....the Arbitrator himself?
Hosta-open was created as a media to openly discuss hosta subjects of
all kinds . It is doing fine with freedom of expression available for
all to use , express and judge for themselves. I suggest that Glen may
wish to rejoin Hosta-open and find this out for himself.....but that he
leave any attempts at Manipulation and Control of others with Phoenix.
It is not acceptable at Hosta-open....AND THAT'S A FACT.
Jim Hawes
Barbara wrote:
Glen asked me to post this to the Open Robin. Here is your chance to
help the
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:44:51 +0100
From: Glen Williams <email@example.com>
Subject: Your Questions Please
Questions Wanted
I would really appreciate as many questions as possible from the
hosta-robin-people for the new Hosta Journal Column. The title of the
column was going to be Facts and Opinions on Hostas. There are some
good suggestions out there so I will hold off with a final title. But,
mention the original title because it suggests just what we are
for: questions which can be answered with facts as well as questions
which will tolerate only opinions. Much of hostadom is still at the
stage....but making steady and stoloniferous process toward facts. Any
question and answer column needs to respond to both.
The audience for such a column is the general hosta rank and file
membership, an audience that probably is not as obsessive/compulsive as
many of us are on the hosta robins.They have a real life from May -
September....and don't raise seedlings in the winter. They are good
people who simply would like to learn more with just a little effort. We
aim to please. Then they will buy more hostas, become obsessed , and
their children after prominent hostas.
There have been a lot of wonderful questions and answers over the past
years on the robins. Any of those (with the response) would be a great
resource. The next resource is you and what you've always wanted to ask
did , but got no answer, or were afraid to ask, because you did not
anyone to know that you didn't know what a chimera or a peduncle was.
Perhaps it is the unasked questions that you did not want to be seen
because they appeared so basic i.e. watering, fertilizing,
transplanting.......that need asking. All is fair game for this
It won't be a vehicle for hosta politics, but certainly wanting to know
something about hosta history , our early and later day hybridizers,
consumer information, questions about plants and hosta people...it's
open, with the one exception.
So please send me a list of your questions ( even if they have been
answered previously), subjects you would like to see explored through
questions, opinion questions, fact questions, rumors, myths.....nearly
anything that the general, non-rabid gardener would want to know about
hostas. Maybe some questions for rabid hosta gardeners would be a good
thing too(there must be some short answers to some short scientific
questions). You can send them to me privately or publicly, e-mail
; firstname.lastname@example.com , phone 802-885-2839, or by snail mail : Glen
Williams, 20 Dewey St., Springfield , Vermont 05156.
The weekend is nearly here. Search the nooks and crannies of your mind.
you want the questions published anonymously that can be done. I hope
be looking at 100's of questions by Sunday. Then I will start the
for those people who can answer the questions. Thanks and thanks again.
glen W.
From the heart of summer in Vermont.... where it is cool and sunny and
the tourists raise their hands to ask directions.
Glen Williams
20 Dewey St.
Springfield , Vermont
Tel: 802-885-2839
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1.30 JLT Novices' Chase (2m 4f)
2.05 Pertemps Network Final (3m)
2.40 The Festival Trophy Chase (2m 5f)
3.20 Ladbrokes World Hurdle (3m)
4.00 Byrne Group Plate (2m 4f)
4.40 Fulke Walwyn Kim Muir Challenge Cup (3m 1f)
5.15 St Patrick's Derby (1m 5f)
Preview odds below correct at time of writing. See current odds below preview
Felix Yonger was 2nd at Cheltenham last year and is very consistent. Wonderful Charm was a respectable 8th in the World Hurdle at Cheltenham last year and has since been run in smaller races, including a 2nd place at Cheltenham over the chsse in December. Wonderful Charm should be given a lot of respect.
Taquin Du Seuil has a lot of experience but was disappointing last year at Cheltenham, finishing 6th. Taquin Du Seuil also runs races with small fields, so may not be used to the hustle and bustle of a large race.
Oscar Whisky is an experienced 9 year old with an impressive record despite pulling up in the World Hurdle at Cheltenham last year. Oscar Whisky also has a lot of Cheltenham experience too, albeit in smaller races. With Cheltenham experience Oscar Whisky must be respected.
Vukovar does not have a lot of experience and will be stepping up to this distance.
Djakadam is a Mullins horse that has stepped up to this distance recently. However Djakadam has not been tested in races of this size.
WinDrawWin Prediction - Wonderful Charm To Win. Oscar Whisky To Place.


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Party Cream Puffs
|Vegetable shortening
|1⁄4 Cup (4 tbs)
|Boiling water
|1⁄2 Cup (8 tbs)
|Sifted flour
|1⁄2 Cup (8 tbs)
|1⁄4 Teaspoon
In saucepan, combine vegetable shortening and boiling water.
Stir over low heat until vegetable shortening is melted.
Add flour and salt all at once and beat until completely smooth.
Remove from heat.
Add eggs, one at a time; beat vigorously after each.
Drop from half teaspoon on greased cookie sheet, 1 1/2 inches apart.
Bake at 450° for 10 minutes; lower temperature to 350° and bake 10 minutes.
Slice off tops; fill with desired filling.
Rate It
Nutrition Rank
Nutrition Facts
Serving size: Complete recipe
Calories 824 Calories from Fat 548
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 62 g95.1%
Saturated Fat 16 g80%
Trans Fat 6.7 g
Cholesterol 423 mg141%
Sodium 633.8 mg26.4%
Total Carbohydrates 48 g16.2%
Dietary Fiber 1.7 g6.8%
Sugars 0.9 g
Protein 19 g38.1%
Vitamin A 9.7% Vitamin C
Calcium 6.7% Iron 26.5%
*Based on a 2000 Calorie diet