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Last week, a milestone was reached in the use of HTTPS by websites and apps. For the first time, 50 percent of all page loads made by Firefox users were delivered over the secure HTTPS protocol. HTTPS prevents hackers tampering with website connections.
Mozilla celebrates 10,000 days of the web
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Mozilla to beef-up Firefox private browsing capability
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Firefox users urged to update after discovery of major bug
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Mozilla is warning users of its Firefox web browser that they should update it immediately after a nasty exploit was found being actively used by hackers. It allows outsiders to search all of the files on your computer and then upload them to a server.
Mozilla blocks Flash in Firefox, calls for Adobe to kill it
James Walker
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All four major browsers fail Pwn2Own exploit competition
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All four major web browsers have failed to survive exploits at the Pwn2Own hacking contest running alongside the CanSecWest 2015 conference in Vancouver, British Columbia. Security researchers were testing them in exchange for cash.
Google targets annoying browser toolbars with new web protection
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Mozilla set to sell '$25' Firefox OS smartphones in India
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AdBlock Plus Firefox plugin could consume gigabytes of RAM
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Mozilla chief steps down amid controversy
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Mozilla accuses Dell of charging for Firefox
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Internet browser specialists Mozilla are investigating reports that Dell computers is charging users with new computers to install the Firefox browser.
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World debut of Firefox 'ZTE Open' smartphone happens in Spain
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Web advertisers attack Mozilla for protecting consumers' privacy
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PITTSBURGH -- It took a rookie in just his third day in the major leagues to help the Cincinnati Reds finally come through against the Pittsburgh Pirates and starter Ian Snell.
Chris Dickerson had three hits and broke a sixth-inning tie with a two-out RBI double to help the Reds beat the Pirates 3-1 on Thursday night.
"That was a huge at-bat," Dickerson said.
With the score tied 1-all, Corey Patterson doubled to lead off the sixth against Snell (4-10) and moved to third on a ground out. Andy Phillips, pinch-hitting for starter Johnny Cueto, hit a grounder to third and Patterson was tagged out in a rundown after breaking for home.
Phillips advanced to second on the play and scored when Dickerson lined a double into the right-field corner.
The 26-year-old outfielder tried his best to block out the situation during his at-bat.
"I just told myself, once (Phillips) got to second, to relax," Dickerson said. "I took a couple of deep breaths and didn't put too much pressure on myself to succeed."
Dickerson, who made his major-league debut Tuesday, also doubled in the third and tripled and scored in the ninth on a squeeze play.
"I'm kind of speechless," he said. "That was exciting. I felt really comfortable tonight, and that's the most important thing. I worked out the jitters in the first game."
Dickerson was called up from Triple-A Louisville to fill the roster spot created when Adam Dunn was traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks on Monday. He went 1-for-4 with a double, a run and stolen base on Tuesday before sitting out Wednesday's game.
Cincinnati manager Dusty Baker said Dickerson, named the organization's Minor League Player of the Month for July, has brought energy to the team.
"That's what young people do," he said. "And he's brought some speed, whether it's covering ground in the outfield or on the bases. It's great."
Javier Valentin homered in his second straight start for the Reds, who took two of three from the Pirates and won for the fourth time in 19 games. The first baseman, who is 10-for-19 with three home runs in his career against Snell, also walked twice.
The Reds left at least one runner on base in the first six innings, stranding nine for the game, and failed to take advantage of five walks from Snell.
"Early on, we left some guys out there, and you're hoping it doesn't come back to haunt you," Baker said.
Snell allowed two runs and six hits in six innings.
"It was a nice game for him," Pittsburgh manager John Russell said. "I can't fault two runs. We were right in the game."
Cueto (8-11) allowed one run and four hits in five innings to break a six-start winless streak. The right-hander struck out seven.
Francisco Cordero, one of five Reds relievers, pitched a perfect ninth for his 23rd save and the 200th of his career.
Andy LaRoche, playing with his brother Adam for the first time as teammates, had an RBI single in the first for Pittsburgh, but also grounded into a double play on a ball hit right at second baseman Brandon Phillips with the bases loaded and one out in the seventh.
"We didn't get them in," Andy LaRoche said. "I wish we could have done more. I hit the double-play ball right at him. I wish I had hit it somewhere else."
Pittsburgh, which has 28 come-from-behind wins this season, left 10 runners on base, including the bases loaded in the first and two on in the fourth and fifth.
"It was one of those nights where we didn't get the big hit like we have," Russell said. "If you look at the game, we should have won."

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I can remember clearly seeing A. A. Allen's TV series in the 50s. He would perform healing miracles in a revival tent setting. On one occasion, they wheeled in a woman on a gurney with what was described as a tumor, which appeared to be the size of a basketball, in her abdominal region, under the sheet covering her. Allen proceeded to wale away on the tumor with a Bible while praying and preaching loudly. Sure enough, the tumor shrank away to nothing under the force of his blows! Tex 21:51, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, TV has shown a lot of amazing things. On The X-Files aliens visited the US in part of an amazing conspiracy. However, just because TV presented something does not make it true. People did look into Allen's claims, and there was never a medically documented case of his purtported abilities. Allen was discovered to have used cold reading and hot reading techniques faith healers had been using for hundreds of years. Arbustoo 02:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- I see my sarcasm was not quite as obvious as I supposed. Let me say plainly that the phoniness of this so-called cure was evident even to me as a young child.
Open to all races[edit]
Previous version said:
"Allen's revival meetings were similar to the other leading evangelists of the time (Jack Coe, Oral Roberts, and William Branham) where there would be an extended time for music and testifying, then a sermon, then an appeal for those in need to come forward and be prayed for. Allen (as did Jack Coe) opened his revival meetings to all races, and his interracial meetings drew criticism, but Allen used the criticism as a platform to preach upon."
I removed "(as did Jack Coe)" because even though all four evangelists were actually well known for opening meetings to all races, this article is specifically about A. A. Allen.
Mechobba 22:47, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Seeeerious POV problem here[edit]
Someone should deal with this.--22.214.171.124 17:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- This is yellow journalism at its worst. Allen was a sinner as ALL men are. Yet, there was and is ABUNDANT evidence that many miracles were done in his ministry and yet NOT ONE is addressed in the article. The FBI investigated Allen for mail fraud because he claimed a man (Gene Mullenax) got a new lung in one of his meetings. Allen was never prosecuted because the FBI found out it was true, yet there's no mention of this miracle or the investigation, though there was significant coverage of it.
Like I said: this is yellow journalism by people who aren't happy with the facts. They only want the dirt. This is what is wrong with wikipedia. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- A.A. Allen should be given for some of the things he accomplished in life. http://www.aaallen.net/
- Some material has been saved and is available at: http://www.aaallen.net/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs).
- The source for the report that his room was strewn with pill and alcohol bottle comes from a very biased book against faith healers, so I think it would be for the best if a new source was found or this tidbit was removed entirely until we can find a reputable source. --Celtic Jobber 05:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter how big a sinner Allen was, the fact that very many confirmed (that means PROVEN, you brain dead fools) miracles were done by his prayers SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PAGE! But you lying atheists WON'T ALLOW THE TRUTH TO REMAIN ON THE PAGE. That's not "encyclopedic," that's yellow journalism.18.104.22.168 (talk) 06:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I just wanted a reputable source, and you provided one. --Celtic Jobber 10:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I have made some changes throughout the whole article. I am AAAllen's great-granddaughter. The granddaughter of his first born son. I found several citations to be unfounded or inaccurate. As for the above comments, surely we shouldn't believe everything we read in the newspapers. :-) A citation was mentioned in the article that was inaccurate:
"In 1963, A. A. Allen Revivals, Inc. successfully sued the Internal Revenue Service[9] in an attempt to get the government to refund collections of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act taxes for 1958-59.[10][11]
Citation 11 was referring to Allen's successor years after he passed away. I've removed this section until someone can find useful info to write about it should they choose to. The whole article seems to have been first written by those who sought to discredit him. I'll plan to add good content and stories that are accurate in time. For now, I'm hoping people won't mind that not everything I've corrected has a citation seeming as how its family knowledge. I'll endeavor to make it more helpful and sourced in time. -JonesFam07 (talk) 22:30, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
This article has been problematic for a long time. I have watched as some aspects or parts of the article have flip-flopped from one biased interpretation to another and back again. The way this article has been edited has largely been one of either praising Allen as though he could do no wrong or lashing out against him in anger. The first thing that draws people's attention when they look at this article is currently "liver failure" and "acute alcoholism" in blue, as though this sums up this individual's life, when at one time the article cited the cause of death in nearly opposite terms.
I am especially concerned about the issue of the cause of death. I have interviewed individuals associated with Allen's ministry and have examined large numbers of documents, newspaper articles, and other materials associated with this man's ministry. I don't know the truth about the cause of death, but I believe that the article should at least simply reflect the fact that it is a matter of controversy. Yes, a number of newspaper articles (which use the same sources) cite alcoholism as the cause of death, and the death certificate cites cirrhosis of the liver. The article should at least mention, however, that the cause of death is seriously questioned by some, and denied by others. I am not in a position to judge the accuracy or credibility of these claims (which concern allegations of lies and falsifications), but the fact that these claims exist should at least be mentioned.
Instead, we have had a situation where one editor says that Allen died because of alcoholism - period - then another editor comes along and says that the evidence is against that - period - then another editor returns to the first position. I don't think the article needs to take ANY position, but that it should mention that this is a matter of controversy. This is a subject that draws intense emotional responses, but they shouldn't color the objectivity of the article. As long as editors take the stance indicated by the above remark ("His addictions were well known" - period - no citations, end of discussion) this article will never reflect either accuracy or objectivity.
In addition, the "jumped bail" remark in connection with Knoxville is extremely misleading. The entire Knoxville incident is another matter of extreme controversy, and the article should here as well reflect this. After examining ordinarily closed files at the Assemblies of God, conducting interviews, and examining other materials, I would say that this is a matter that cannot be accurately summed up in just one and a half sentences, certainly not with the phrase "jumped bail" included.
The entire "kept drinking" sentence is also extremely problematic in that other evidence is against this, the claim is flat-out denied, and the way it's worded makes it sound as though Allen was habitually drunk. The late Paul Cunningham, who worked closely with Allen and who appeared on the platform with Allen in many of the latter's TV programs, told me that Allen's work and sleep schedule were extremely demanding to the point that it precluded any possibility of an alcoholism issue.
Then the rest of the article degenerates into the sort of standard, cliche treatment of TV evangelists that have been applied to everyone from Oral Roberts to Joyce Meyer: He owned expensive things, he faked healings. Can't this section maintain some degree of objectivity? Even the article itself states that audiences were confused about the presence of people in wheelchairs, then calls this "trickery" rather than "confusion." Why call it anything?
If this article is going to allege that Allen hired "goon squads" to "punch out" reporters, this is a very serious allegation. It requires more substantiation than the fact that someone said it in a book. Can we assume, then, that when, for example, he was covered by Life or Look magazine, that the reporters involved were "punched out"? A number of newspaper articles covered Allen's meetings, yet I haven't run across one in which a reporter alleges that he or she was "punched out."
The overall tone of this article reflects anything but objectivity. Instead, it appears to be a list of any and every possible accusation that anyone could possibly come up with against this man.
I would insert some mitigating statements in the article in an attempt to create greater objectivity, but I don't think they would remain.
Some other minor points: What is meant by saying that he "became a Pentecostal" in a Methodist church? Is this referring to Pentecostal experience rather than Pentecostal denominational affiliation, or was this, somehow, a Pentecostal Methodist church?
I doubt that "Healing Revival Campaigns" in the "Early Life" section is a proper noun that requires capitalization.
Is "prosperity cloths" Allen's term? I've watched probably several hundred hours of video of his meetings and don't recall coming across that term. If this isn't Allen's term, then it shouldn't be placed in quotation marks. Unless Allen called them that, I wouldn't use the phrase at all. In addition, using the term "selling" in connection with these cloths is yet another biased assessment.
The reference to the separation from Lexie "with whom he had four children" is also problematic in that it seems to suggest some sort of moral failing on Allen's part. My understanding is that there were extreme issues behind this separation, issues that are not even mentioned.
The reference to "Nineteen cds . . . and nine dvds" is, frankly, ridiculous. First of all, those formats post-date Allen's lifetime. Secondly, I have at least ten times that much DVD video material in my collection. Searches of copyright records at the Library of Congress appear to suggest that most of the Allen material is not under copyright, and various people have been releasing VHS tapes, CDs, and DVDs for years.
The discography should reflect format (in this case LP) and should also reflect which albums contained Allen speaking as opposed to music by others in his ministry organization or some other content (e.g. "Crying Demons"). In either case, the discography is incomplete.
Mtnbuilder (talk) 15:57, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
After Death[edit]
The entire section titled "After Death" Is confusing and hard to read. The grammer needs serious rivising, and the information overall needs needs editing and clarification. The section reads like an 8th grade student wrote it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs)
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Sorry to go on and on, but this article is a major mess.
The reason for Allen's leaving the Corpus Christi church doesn't match what other primary sources say.
I would like to see a reference for the cost of the original tent in order to verify its accuracy.
The statement in the 2nd para. under "Revivalist" about the format or order of events in Allen's meetings is absolutely inaccurate. It's also extremely inaccurate to imply that Branham, Coe, and Roberts used the same format. This isn't what Allen did. It certainly isn't what Roberts did.
What in the world is meant by saying that Allen "claimed to communicate with the demon world' over the airwaves"? At best, this is a quote taken out of context. At the least, it's so poorly worded as to literally be saying that Allen used the radio to communicate with demons.
To amplify what I said earlier, "kept drinking" implies continuously, when much evidence says this didn't occur at all. "Would be too drunk," again suggests a continual practice.
"Was" 2,400 acres is poor English.
The circulation figures for Miracle Magazine are inaccurate according to Allen's own testimony.
The extended sentence about the recording of a deed "in the Cochise County Courthouse," and this occurring "within days" sounds, frankly, stupid. That's what normally happens when someone sells land.
The "Revivalist" section contains an early unsourced statement claiming that Allen was "one of the first evangelists to call poverty a spirit." Then the issue is totally dropped for several paragraphs. Then the writer returns to "His teachings on prosperity were a major theme." No, they weren't. They were a theme, but certainly not a major theme. Read his books and watch a hundred hours or more of his TV programs, as I've done, and you'll find a mention every once in a great while. It's COMPLETELY INACCURATE to refer to this as being a major theme of Allen's ministry.
Then the writer returns to Allen having "visions, divine voices, and prophecies." First of all, you don't "have" a divine voice. Second, I thought it had already been stated earlier in the article that Allen was Pentecostal, so, duhhhh... What did you expect? If this is a Pentecostal ministry, then there has to be something to make it Pentecostal. Pentecostals, not just Allen, claim visions, prophecies, and healing.
The "heavy drinking binge" statement is made so matter-of-factly in the "Death" section, with little support, that it bothers me. No one was present with Allen when he died.
Doesn't some of the "After death" section merely duplicate what's in the Don Stewart article? Shouldn't some of this be moved out and into that article?
I don't know why it's important that "ten people" representing Harter's ministry came to look over the Miracle Valley property. Since it is mentioned, why is there no indication of whether Harter was among them? Why is there no source so that we can know if it really was 10 people?
The term "classical Pentecostal theology" toward the end of the article may be problematic in that there are different Pentecostal denominations with radically different beliefs. What constitutes "classical Pentecostal theology"?
Mtnbuilder (talk) 18:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
This article needs to be deleted[edit]
Regarding editing this article, I give up. I believe this article should removed from Wikipedia, because it cannot be maintained in a manner that even begins to approach any level of objectivity. Any time any information is added or edited regarding the cause of death, that information is removed. The article then reverts back to saying that he died of alcohol abuse - period. I don't think anyone carefully studying the coroner's report and more up-to-date information on physical reactions from prescription pain reliever drugs would make that statement, but the level of apparently vindictive hostility against this man, even after 43 years, is unbelievable. Someone is intent on making the statement that Allen was an alcoholic and died an alcoholic, and does not intend to give up making his or her polemic point. I understand that widespread intense hostility exists that is directed against "healing evangelists" in general and, seemingly, especially against this man. I have no vested interest any way or the other, but I had hoped that since this is supposed to be a wiki, this article could be edited on a community basis and could represent an attempt to construct an accurate and unbiased account. Instead, this article only serves a polemic purpose. My edits did not say that he was not an alcoholic. My edits did not say that alcohol was not a factor in his death. My edits merely stated that at the time of Allen's death he was taking four dangerous prescription drugs for knee pain, that no alcohol bottles were found in his room, and that these factors may have had something to do with his death. That objective information, taken from the coroner's report, was removed simply because someone didn't want it that way. This article is no longer a wiki article. This article is now simply someone's personal opinion about A. A. Allen. Mtnbuilder (talk) 12:49, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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Originally posted by Sephiroso
Females can be more emotionally invested when gaming because of the way their brains are wired (feelers more often than thinkers) and I've seen some drama llamas in my gaming heydey of both sexes. I think a stereotype has formed around female games; a stereotype as essential to a well rounded guild as the slow-speaking rogue/assassin who's always stoned. But then, there are stereotypes for a reason. Just curious, what kind of jobs don't accept men? Just wondering your train of thought. Hope this question isn't coming across as inciting drama...
have you read nothing of all the posts you quoted? no one is saying the fault lies with women solely. we're saying is the GUYS who get stupid when a woman is nearby. so all that shit you're talking about we're pitting a stereotype against female gamers is just straight up bull.
yes someone may have cited an example or two about a female flirting and what not, but the majority was saying its the guys who just get stupid and wanna white knight any insult or w/e to the female and just shit goes south from there. like i said to jaleena, no one is saying females are bad players or anything, but when you introduce a female in a high competitive setting like raiding where you need everyone to work together for hours at a time and gear disputes could happen at anytime not to mention raid spots...it's almost asking for trouble.
I gotcha. It's for sure a two way street. It's an interesting idea, gender specific guilds. It can avoid potential problems and there are plenty of other guilds out there. Cheers!
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Speaking as a former "Bob", the writing is on the wall. If you choose to see it, that is up to you. I have overthrown 2 guild leaders, 1 in SWTOR and 1 in WoW. Never did it to be a dick, I did it for the benefit of the guild as a whole.
When a Guild has a leader who isn't qualified or inexperienced it hurts the guild as a whole. You did the right thing for the guild but not for you as a player.
The burning question that begs to be asked is
"Why were there people who were "way better geared" than you?"
There are a couple possible reasons but none of them would be worth it. If you would have said, similarly geared or a bit better geared than you, I might have sympathy. If they were that far ahead of you on gear, then you went from being a Guild Leader to being carried. No one wants to carry anyone, pull your own weight or step out.. its only fair.
You need to start a Casual Guild and let it be known from the start that it will never be anything more.
Second Rule.. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR POWER. If you do, then your done. Force them to restart a new guild and rebuild your current one. Doing this keeps your manhood intact, as it stands yours is in your backpack.
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sometimes in guild politics a cult of personality kind of happens, I know something similar happened when I played Wow. I've actually been on both sides of this behaviour (as in, i've been in your position and in bob's). I dunno why but it's a phenomenon of guild politics in Wow and EQ2. (i never noticed it in EQ1, and in Eve people tend to be super skeptical of ny newcomer for months in any relevant corp) I would say though, that as lng as you had fun for the time you were GM, then dont call it wasted time! you had fun and enjoyed yourself. what more can you want in a game. try to keep it positive and seek people to play with that appreciate you.
as others mentioned it seems like your guild kinda got hijacked from a less intense guild to a more raiding oriented one. Dont lose sleep over it. you know what? the people in your old guild who are worth knowing will seek you out and you wont lose them as friends. the ones who dont were probly not worth it in the first place. and if you put your mind to it then within a week, blam, you will find a new guild to call home and new folks to get to know.
keep it positive. if da skull can do it you can too
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I'm sorry but this is still real life and as others have said if you saw this guy coming you should have did something about it. Hopefully you don't make the same mistake if you try the guild leadership again someday.
And btw there is noway in hell that I would have allowed them to vote me out. I would have kicked EVERYONE out before I did that, and kept the name just to stop them from taking it.
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Tiny is perhaps too extreme. Bob and hif followers were as much a part of the guild as anyone at that point.
I would reccomend two things in such situation:
1) promote him to leader but if and only if...
2) demand a permanent and unremovable officer position and raid spot.
Hmm, I feel sorry for you, OP, but it is also what drew me away from WoW many times. I come from Anarchy Online and was a member of my guild for over 10 years. I was one of the founders. Having a guild in AO is quite easy, get 6 guild-less people together, make a team and type /org create "Name". There you have your guild. You can define the ranks and everything like in WoW, but a major difference in AO is that your guild is more than a raidgroup and a bank. We had about 500 members over the years, many leaders (including me) and a lot to do. But it was never anyones guild, it was our guild. And this is the same for almost all other guilds in AO. We had our officers with different tasks and depending on how many active members we had at a time, also vice officers. There was one for raiding, one for pvp actions (sometimes this was split up into two parts), one recruitment officer, one for newbie/lowlevel training and advice, one for our guild city (yes, not only housing, but cities...), one for rp activities etc. . PvP-action was sometimes split up into land control pvp and regular pvp. Oh, and we had an elders council for our retired leaders. That's what I call a guild.
But it's also something I think is very hard to get in WoW. There's too much pressure due to the lockout timers (which I feel are ridiculous anyways) in WoW, the raid size limitation makes it even worse. For a raiding guild that leads to an A-Team and some leftovers, if there aren't enoug players for a second raid group. I can understand that this system needs something like an harder hierarchy and there's some sort of meaning to the guild leader position, but it wasn't fun for me. We had our fair share of accomplishments in AO, not only faction or server wide. In AO we were able to do what we wanted to do, when we wanted it, how often we wanted it (except some faction/server wide raids with a global timer of 18h at max) and with as many players as we wanted. As you can think, we really grew together over all this and there were no leftovers. Coming from this background, I can say, I really feel sorry for you for losing your guild (as founder and leader of an WoW-guild, I think you're the one most attached to it), but I also feel sorry for many WoW-players (hence, I don't say that this is impossible, but it's a lot harder to accomplish in WoW due to a lack of activities where all guildies can take part in at the same time) who won't experience the type of guild I and most other AO players enjoyed so much.
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Tiny is perhaps too extreme. Bob and hif followers were as much a part of the guild as anyone at that point. I would reccomend two things in such situation: 1) promote him to leader but if and only if... 2) demand a permanent and unremovable officer position and raid spot.
The only issue with this is once he has #1 there is no reason for him to keep his word on #2.
I have not read the whole thread, so i apologise if i am repeating anything that has already been said.
I think there is one very important thing that a lot of people setting up guilds forget to do before embarking on them and that is to do some basic planing and set up the rules. More importantly, decide what type of guild you want to be and stick to it. I have been in a few social guilds that have then attempted to be raiding guilds and it never works well at all.
Number one though, with all that said, remember that it is 'your' guild, not the members, not the raid leader, 'your' guild!!! If you don't stick with that, you are pretty much doomed to fail from the start.
The guild i am currently heading up has a core membership of six founders, the decision from the start was that no-one other than any of these six could ever be leaders, others could become officers, but never leaders. The guild rules were ingrained and followed to the letter, some ex-members may have seen that as harsh, but again, if you don't stick to what you have set up, you are doomed to fail.
The overriding factor though was, if you don't like the way we run things, there is the door, goodbye and good luck. Again, that wasn't to be nasty or harsh in any way, but that is the way we wanted to run our guild and if you didn't agree then you obviously don't fit in with the ethos that we have decided to run ourselves by and you would be better off finding someone who did match your own game play style.
In the case of the op's story, my attitude personally would have been to say to the 70%, feel free to go start your own guild with Bob as your leader and i do say that from experience when i learned the hard way that raid and social don't generally mix
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
This sort of reminds me of my first raiding guild in WoW.
Our leader was pretty cool, and we would get server firsts on MC and BWL, then he stopped playing due to college. He eventually came back, but then someone else we recruited started leading the raids when he was gone. Eventually, the old leader wanted to be leader again, and that's when the guild fractured and split into two guilds.
Best thing to do is never give up guild leader.
Just rebuild another guild. You seemed capable of doing it the first time.
Lesson learned I guess. Definitely never give up guild leadership. Just let the raiders make their own guild if it comes to that. Everyone will be happier in the end.
Just make a new guild and be clear on the guilds goals. If people outgrow the guild just let them leave amicably.
Originally posted by PWN_FACE
This is just how people are. It's sad but true. Loyalty is an extremely rare and precious thing in this world.
So sad, but true. I am a very loyal person (you saw this more back in the day MMOs from 1999-2004). Nowadays... while it still exists... it is also quite rare. Most guilds currently feel like revolving doors (although casualization of the genre helped in that regard immensely).
Love Robokapp's comments in this thread... good stuff. Bob's the Putin of WoW: make that into a meme! Love the example with Spartacus.
I have successfully run several guilds in several games. I have run them as dictatorships and democracies, however the one thing I have always done is kept the leadership in my name. Even when a democracy when decisions went against my view and others voices were listened to more, the ultimate power remained in my hands.
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet
Originally posted by Jeleena
Originally posted by Ridrith
We also had a number of rules that we enforced.
No couples.
No female players.
Weekly Guild Meetings - In ventrilo.
Taking a break every week from raiding and playing other games with each other.
Red text. Unbelievable....this is 2013 we are talking about????
I noticed that too. While I understand the reasoning behind it (guys tend to get stupid over female players, and some females play off that like nobody's business) that doesn't make it any less sexist.
Personally I'd let female players in, but boot them and / or any guy who starts with the white knighting bullcrap at the first sign of trouble.
Green text. I think this is a better policy to have than not allowing women in at all since you at least give a chance to the female player to prove herself. I don't think that every female player should be branded a trouble maker from the get-go just because of a few bad apples. How do you even find out if we are female ? Those of us who are teamplayers don't make a habit of advertizing ourselves since we are 'just one of the guys'.
Besides the drama and stuff can happen regardless of who you got in your guild as we can see from the OP.
My suggestion to the OP, to change the subject slightly, is to next time try to nip the problem in the bud. Good leaders tend to anticipate things (not always possible since this comes with experience). Next time a 'Bob' appears in your guild, invite him to make a subsidiary guild linked to yours. There is no shame in having a casual/leveling guild associated with a hardcore raid guild. I think it is better than mixing the aims in one guild.
The other thing is to balance what you invest in the guild with what other players invest. Don't put too much of yourself into it because it is just a game. Instead, try to lead by example in the sense of stressing that other players help out others like you help them out. In WoW it is hard because a lot of people are pretty selfish and it is so easy to guildhop.
Good luck in the future. I hope you do continue with your ideas of leading a guild because a lot of guilds die pretty quickly so if yours worked for as long as it did, it is already sort of a rarity in today's WoW.
Originally posted by MmoFluff Things went well and a few months into it the guild had grown solid and many players had become friends and wanted to transform the guild into something more, into a raiding guild, to which i agreed, and despite my lack of experience in the leading role, i did my best and we even got a few nice completions and kills.
You lost leadership right there and hate to say it, deserved it.
You started out as one thing, with no experience and had a great time doing it and so did your guild, you never should have changed that and should have told others to create an off-shoot if they wanted something more.
Once a guild makes progression its focus, all loyalty and friendship is tossed out the window.
The guild I am in has several divisions set up. A Casual, a raiding, a PvP and an RP guild all under the same umbrella. This allows us to stay together yet at the same time, apart, if we want to focus on one thing, even while spread out over different games.
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Seen that kinda thing happen in many games where a guild started out as one thing and all a sudden became another. Personally I never been big on raids or pvp. Never even started on raids and only pvp for fun every once in awhile. Once they start trying to change the focus from what your guild is set on to something else you should end it there if your their leader. Otherwise do like I do when I'm in a guild that decides to change and find a new one with a similar focus as I have. Done the whole leaving to find new guilds plenty of times and I've told others when i was leader that if they wanted to hardcore raid or pvp to simple leave and start their own and take any members that feel the same with them. Send out a mail saying that is your decision and offer to let them back if they want to refocus back on your guilds main purpose. I've found most people only raid or pvp for so long until their ready to go back casual if that is what they started out doing.
As others have said never give up leadership due to pressure and stick to your guns. I'd go so far as to tell them I want leadership back and that they should go make a raiding guild that can be associated with your guild.
Originally posted by aSynchro
Transition from a casual to a raiding guild is horrible. Guys that were previously just happy to log and chat, doing retro or randoms together start to think in a different way: suddently everything is about gear and skill and optimising the team. It also often lead to a split between the guildies that remain casuals and the raiders...
So yeah... I would strongly advice to any leader to really think about this before jumping the shark. If you decide to start raiding, be sure to write rules and fix goal: how many raiding nights, what kind of difficulty (lfr, flex, hc..) etc.
If someone isn't following YOUR vision, eh! Just kick him from YOUR guild !
What worked best for me was a sepperate raiding group, away from the guilds....
its quite easy setting up a chatchannel for this where raiders can join in....
worked great in vanilla raiding for us, and in some other engame games i played...
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Some good advice in this thread, but there's something that needs to be said about guild security (as Blizzard changed some guild rules, and a serious one is petitioning them for guild control [returnees maybe unaware of this change]):
If you plan to make a guild have RL friends and/or family members as top officers if possible. This is done because they will be loyal to you unlike those online, and if there's any power plays you and they can assume control. That securely locks the administration of the guild, and if you need to go on vacation, or become ill, there's someone you *can* trust there to watch the guild. It also helps to keep an ambitious guildie from petitioning Blizzard for guild control and getting control if you're away for over 30 days (Blizzard now allows guild members without an active guild leader to petition for control of the guild -- why you want trusted people to have the top officer positions, as Blizzard will hand it to the next highest active officer. Never give the #2 position to someone you don't really know no matter how kind and helpful in game. That position must be someone you trust explicitly).
Only give yourself and them the power to promote or demote (the raid leader and recruiter positions don't need promotion/demotion privileges). That's to ensure that any promotion/demotion you are aware of and who did it. Malicious officers will invite and position enough supporters to undermine the guild, and you want to see what is happening before it gets out of hand.
If you're playing WoW without RL friends and/or family but don't want your guild ever to be in a situation that someone can power play or petition for control -- send everyone a notice that you will be expelling members due to whatever situation you're having. Be nice and give them a couple of days to find a new guild before closing to lessen the drama this can cause. It's drastic, but the rules have changed and this is the only way for someone without RL friend/family support to maintain control
Officer recruiting tips: No matter how informal or casual your guild is...always conduct formal interviews of officers and with at least 1 other officer as a witness. This sets the tone that you're in control, organized and got your ship in order (they too need to know if you aren't wasting their time). It also allows you time to look at their application; your witness to offer feedback; and check if they're not a BSer (which unfortunately a common behavior in WoW). If their application doesn't match up with their voice chat interview, ditch them no matter how good they look. You will be tempted to accept them, but don't fall for it. You want officers who don't need to pad their application, because if they're willing to pad, they will lie again and again and again. If that means taking in a lesser experienced player, so be it. A lesser experienced player who is honest is a much better asset, as he can always improve and doesn't need to overstate his importance. Secondly, the voice chat interview is also the time to judge if you can handle their personality, as some are quite aggressive. If you feel intimidated by his/her personality you may wish to accept another applicant, as you WILL knock heads sooner than latter, and those types of people are quite political and will fish for support in and out of the guild causing drama. Ideally you want someone who matches your personality and will at the most, if you have to raise your voice over them to be heard or to gain their attention, they're not a good match for you (others in a group will see it as a weakness that you can't gain group control, too). You always have to appear as the final authority, and always can command the attention (but don't make the mistake of acting like a tyrant. Remember a light hand of direction -- and carrying a big stick -- is more effective in maintaining discipline than being Ivan the Terrible!).
This happens and did to me as well not in wow but in lotro. So I hear ya and sadly rather then be an a-hole and close the guild I did end up leaving. I did not step down due to poor leadership it was more one guy joined added all his buddies and took over. After about 2 years I found myself in much the same position you are/were. Wish I could tell you otherwise but leaving is about the last hope you have to move on....
To you raid position: People with lower gear should be the 1st in line to take a class roll unless your toon can't "tank" or just can't "heal". Putting that guy with the best gear is nice for him and leaves people with lower gear scores at lower gear scores and gimp you and your guilds overall progress. It was said (not be me) "You are as strong as your weakest link"
The guild leader absolutely has to be the one of the most active people in a guild or the guild won't work. This often means huge time commitments especially when in a raiding guild. It's up to the guild leader also to provide direction of the guild. If the goal was to not become a serious raid guild, but a casual one then it's important that as a leader you are recruiting a set of hardcore players who are going to want to be a serious raid guild in the future.
If you fell behind in gear, you obviously weren't as active as other guildies and/or you didn't have a system in place that properly rewarded loot by attendance. By not being as well geared as others, bringing you onto a raid would have been a determinant to the raid progression. Nobody is obligated to get you gear when you are putting as much time and effort into progression as others.
And again, if you never intended your guild to become serious about raiding why would you recruit players who clearly are more active than you into the guild?
Originally posted by AIMonster
If you fell behind in gear, you obviously weren't as active as other guildies and/or you didn't have a system in place that properly rewarded loot by attendance. By not being as well geared as others, bringing you onto a raid would have been a determinant to the raid progression. Nobody is obligated to get you gear when you are putting as much time and effort into progression as others.
Unless the GL is a Holy paladin and intellect plat has a 0.3% drop rate (and can finally see a shield drop 19 weeks later to even roll on it -- true story). -_-
Originally posted by JJ82
Once a guild makes progression its focus, all loyalty and friendship is tossed out the window.
That is probably the saddest truth of guilds in these types of games.
I played wow for a solid three years before slowing down to a more casual style. However before I did quit I witnessed my guild become absorbed not once, but twice to other guilds. In the beginning it was great. We bumbled through dungeons and some smaller raids like a bunch of sauntering drunks. Most of the time it was a game of trying to figure out who was sober enough to lead the runs. Probably some of the better times I can recall in my years of gaming, even if it was just WoW. There was hadly ever any hard feelings about wipes and we didnt overly obsess about gear so much as playing together.
Halfway through BC our GL and officers made a decision to disband and regroup into a larger and more focused guild. Big mistake. I didn't think about it until much later but we traded our in game friendships for gear and raid spots. The core of our guild was integrated as a second raid group and it worked fairly well until the seed of progression was planted into our minds. Our more casuals either just stopped logging in or slowly worked themselves out of the guild. The more dedicated ones stayed on and either sat around on the "B" team or shimmied up the ladder to the main raid group. We spent less time together and more time worrying about gear.
A few months after WotLK we reabsorbed into an even more raid focused guild. That spelled about the end of it for me. Most of the original members were hooked line and sinker on progression, thereby completing the downward spiral into the dark side of gaming. It felt more like a military training camp than anything enjoyable. I logged out and didnt come back until a month into Cata and after that spent most of my time after that as a ghost in the guild. I eventually just gave up completely after I heard about Pandas. The magic was gone and the friendships we had forged were as disposable as accidental looted grey gear.
Bit of a sad story I guess.
OP got screwed. Giving up the seat of power to another was as admirable as it was foolish in this instance. Should have told Bob to take himself and any other mutineers he had poisoned straight to the guild NPC. Go make your own guild Bob! Peace be with 'Ya and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You would have won respect from those who stuck around after the exodus and set yourself up for better success on the next round of recruitment. Instead you conceded to your own defeat and handed over the keys to the castle.


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