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Skip to comments.Atheists, agnostics, pagans, and more: do they have a place in the pro-life movement?
Posted on 08/15/2013 7:10:04 AM PDT by Morgana
Lately Ive been noticing a new pro-life trend. Quite active on Facebook are groups and individuals who condemn any attempt to convert an abortion advocate without taking a religious approach.
What I can glean of their message from social media and blog posts is that unless you lead with Jesus, you are denying His power to change that persons mind. In other words, taking any approach other than heres what the Bible has to say about abortion is irreligious folly.
I have several issues with this, but lets start with my own personal experience.
Ive shared my conversion story with Live Action readers and in The American Feminist, the magazine of Feminists for Life of America, so I wont rehash it again. But allow me to reiterate that had my lovely friend, with whom I chose to debate abortion one fateful night, used religion as a basis for her argument, I not only would not have been convinced, I would have dismissed her entire thesis outright and probably ended the conversation.
Would I have been, frankly, an idiot for doing so? That is debatable. (By which I mean: yeah, kind of.) But I would also not have become, that very night, a pro-life advocate.
I was converted on the basis of human rights, science, and reason. Was God behind it? In my opinion, yes, He was. He is always behind Truth. I believe God created human rights, science, and reason. So using these to argue is not terribly different from mentioning Him by name.
Because my friend was, to get Biblical, wise as serpents, I became pro-life that night. A year later, I was no longer an agnostic but a Catholic. Coincidence? I guess. If you believe in that sort of thing.
I spent the first few months of my uncomfortable pro-lifeness (after initially trying desperately to become pro-choice again, and failing) splashing around in the shallow but welcoming online pool of the non-religious pro-life. There were pro-life pagans, agnostics, atheists, humanists, homosexuals, and so on. They, like I, had found the argument for the sanctity of unborn human life compelling enough without believing in a Christian God.
For me, this new belief in the unborn led me directly eventually to that same Christian God. I doubt I am the only one for whom this has been the case. It has given me an even deeper love for the fetal among us: they saved my soul.
So not only does a Bible-first approach to explaining the evil of abortion not work on everyone, it outright excludes a small but important faction of the pro-life community, whom I believe we should welcome.
Craig Gross, pastor of XXXchurch, devotes his ministry to helping porn stars leave the sex industry. In explaining his controversial personal friendship with porno legend Ron Jeremy, he explained to Nightline: To me, the message of Jesus unites and doesnt divide. You know what were all against, but you never know what were all for. Like, to me, Im for Ron.
There might be a very profound message in that simple statement.
If I care deeply about the soul of a pro-life pagan and I do! is it for me to tell her she has no place in our movement? Will that endear her to my religion? Will it go any way at all towards bringing her to understand the love of Christ?
No, of course not.
My goal as a Christian should be to bring Christ to everyone I meet. How best should I do that? By yelling Bible verses through a megaphone? By handing out pamphlets? By excluding them from the Godly work of protecting Life?
I recall encountering, for the first time, the priest who would become my first pastor. I attended a tragic funeral for a young man at his parish. It was the second time in my life I had been in a Catholic church, and this happened one month after I became pro-life. (Again, coincidence.) Normally quite hostile to Christianity, I felt peace and indeed holiness in the sanctuary. I also felt what I would later come to know as the Holy Spirit emanating from Monsignor Donald Fischer. I would feel it every time I was in his presence. I would feel it in that same sanctuary when he confirmed me a Catholic, one year later.
All this all this Godliness because my friend didnt mention God.
God has His ways. I believe they have been called mysterious. Perhaps we should be humble enough to accept they dont always involve us being loudly right at everyones face. Are you right to say God is the number one reason to oppose abortion? In my opinion, yes. But being right is not always how you win an advocate for Life or a soul for Jesus.
It is a difficult thing to humbly submit to the will of God when nothing makes sense. Maybe pro-life paganism or agnosticism or atheism or homosexuality dont make sense to you. Maybe they are an affront to you. But just like Craig Gross and his friend Ron Jeremy are both for Ron, arent we all working towards the same goal? Dont we all want to protect life in the womb? Does God frown on you when you embrace a pro-life atheist or does He say, in the immortal words of Dire Straits, Thats the way you do it?
Im thinking its (something like) the latter, and I personally welcome and rejoice in all the pro-lifers. We may disagree about graphic signs, the death penalty, politics, and more, but any friend of the unborn deserves a seat at our table.
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For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
That's certainly not what Jesus said. He said the Gospel would be incredibly divisive.
Of course they are welcome to the pro-life movement. It is their right to express their views. NO less than a pagan pro-abort has the right to express their views.
How is it a question?
That's a definition of what abortion does, not an explanation of why it is immoral.
Antibiotics interrupt the normal process of bacteria killing you.
Currently the President of the United States is a man who celebrates abortions of all sorts. He was elected twice. The MSM has made a political icon of a vile woman in Texas who promotes late term abortion. America is in an advanced state of decadence. Anytime anyone comes to a rational insight on abortion, it is a welcome occurrence.
Well said
There is a moral judgment involved in determining that interrupting pregnancy is good, while interrupting cancer or pneumonia is bad. At the most basic level, it's the judgment that continuing to live is good, while dying is bad. Almost everyone makes that judgment about himself - life good/death bad - at all times.
Did you not read what I said. He still said it was wrong.
What a ridiculous premise.
Of course someone can be pro-life without necessarily being religious or being of different faiths or being atheist. After all, it the conviction is called pro-LIFE not pro-religion or pro a particular religious ideology.
"O less than a pagan pro-abort has the right to express their views."
This article is about Pro life pagans not pro abort pagans. Yes they do exist.
Not many people of that if that idea. Most people when they think "Pro Life" they think of Catholics praying the Rosary or protestant street preachers yelling at women as they enter the clinics. No one ever thinks of pagans as being "pro life" but I have met quite a few.
Let me rephrase that. Not many people think of that idea. Sorry not had my coffee yet.
I understand he said it was wrong. But he did not provide you with a reason why it was wrong, only with a definition of the process.
Many things we do interrupt natural processes. There is a general consensus for most those interruptions as to whether they are good, bad or neutral ethnically.
Abortion is one on which people disagree as to morality. It being an interruption of a natural process does not provide any guidance, of itself, as to whether it is right or wrong.
Cancer is a natural process. Surgery and chemotherapy are attempts to interfere with that natural process. Doesn't make them wrong.
The one thing that major religions agree on is that abortion is wrong.
Any sane person can see that jabbing a needle into a babies head to kill it is wrong.
True. But the judgment is that ending life is wrong, not interrupting a natural process.
BTW, contraception also interrupts a natural process. Most non-Catholic conservatives don't therefore believe it to be wrong.
I have no data on Cherokee attitudes towards birth control. :)
Please don't think I am putting you down (though I tend in the "Natural Law" direction.) I think the question is important and needs to be examined and discussed.
So, herewith: :-)
Consider: It is "normal," to judge by history, for some humans to enslave others. Yet we claim there are "natural rights." (natural <- natus <- nativity => rights that come with or pertain to birth.)
Consider: Some feminists argue that if contraception is not funded by government programs, then neither should Viagra (etc.) be so funded.
IMHO the comparison is flawed because contraception interrupts the "that for the sake of which" (or one of them) the genitals are made, while Viagra restores a function lost through some defect. It would seem to make no sense to say that contraception is the same kind of thing as setting a broken arm, yet because the arm in question is a short one, that distinction is ignored.
Again, that's not meant to be an argument. It's only a hint at another view.
Unfortunately, there are quite a few large (though declining) denominations that disagree with you.
"I understand he said it was wrong. But he did not provide you with a reason why it was wrong, only with a definition of the process."
Dude he is a Cherokee they are like that. Kinda like Master Yoda. It's wrong so don't do it. End of story.
When the Son of Man returns, will He find faith in the earth?
"Atheists, agnostics, pagans, and more: do they have a place in the pro-life movement?"
...inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness apply to everyone, so why shouldn't they? As long as they're US citizen's, they can decide for themselves whether to be left-leaning, "moderate", right-leaning or some combination of all three positions when they go to the polls as a registered voter.
The right to support and defend those rights are no less applicable to those individuals and groups, are they not?
Why couldn't a person be pro-life, atheist, church-taxing AND conservative? And as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't expect an explanation for what possesses them to have such mixed and seemingly contradictory values.
Would like to post a brief comment on the more general topic of using religious/biblical arguments for political and social issues outside a religious environment.
It is highly counter-productive. I've had discussions with people on FR where they thought citing scripture was definitive and should end the argument.
What they don't seem to realize is that the only people this argument will convince is those who already agree with them. A very large percentage, probably a majority, of those who disagree or are undecided are repelled by such arguments and forced in reaction towards the other side.
Morgana quoted the gentleman as saying, "It interrupts the normal process of pregnancy," not "It interrupts a natural process." Those are not the same thing. He might - almost certainly does - believe that interrupting the normal progress of disease is the right thing to do.
Implicit in the reasoning is that the normal process of pregnancy is a good thing, therefore interrupting it is bad. Pregnancy and childbirth are the proper, healthy function of the reproductive system. Tuberculosis is not the proper, healthy functioning of the lungs.
Again, we're back to "life good, death bad": a moral judgment.
I also tend to the natural law side.
However, unless natural law is based on something other than human opinion, it has no definition other than popularity.
IOW, how can one define the terms of natural law? Seems to me the term is often an attempt to avoid actually proving their argument. The natural law types jump straight to claiming whatever their position is constitutes part of natural law.
Whereas what they need to do is demonstrate why it is part of natural law.
Fortunately there are fewer such, and they are less insistent, every year.
Abraham, in faith, was prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac by command of the Lord, and God sacrificed his only son our Lord Jesus Christ as blood atonement for the sins of men. The key difference between child sacrifices is this: what is commanded by God - it is up to God and God alone which lives are taken and which are not, and when. God gives life and he taketh it away. He has not commanded the abortions we see happening today, thus they are a violation of the sixth commandment.
Throughout the Bible there are teaching examples of the admonition to avoid alliances with pagans and heathens.
Such alliances offer the illusion of helping in the short term only to ultimately fail us.
This is because the alliance signifies that we are placing our faith in the alliance instead of God, who exhorts us to worship him alone and to be obedient to his word. And his word tells us to separate ourselves from evil, to not deny his Son Jesus Christ, and to worship God and God alone.
We also have the charge to bring God's Word out to the world. So often we hear that Christ ate with publicans and sinners, that the sick need the physician, which is true. As we do this, however, we must keep in mind that we need to be changing the world to conform to God's Word, not have the world changing us to reject God's Word.
Regarding unbelievers all around us, who may agree with us on some points and disagree on others, we are clearly directed in Romans 12 to:
18 "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
Yet nowhere in the Bible are we told that we are thus permitted to use this as an excuse to "agree" with them in order to "get along" or "receive their help" when the "agreement" would imply that we deny even a single truth in God's Word. If a person can help in the effort to end abortion, but we have to gossip with them to enlist their aid, we need to refrain from the gossip, because the Bible exhorts us to refrain from gossip. We are commanded to be obedient to Scripture AND spread the Gospel at the same time; we can't say for practical reasons we had to abandon Scripture in order to spread the Gospel.
If we "love" someone, we tell them the truth, we don't lie to them. We must remember, of course, that the entire Bible can not be pushed into someone's mind by our preaching to them in a single long conversation.
Whether a particular person is saved or not is not up to us, but entirely up to God.
That does not relieve us of our Biblical duty to testify our faith in Christ Jesus when the situation arises.
It is important to remember that those who are truly saved have the benefit of the Holy Spirit dwelling within them, while those who are not saved do not.
Though not at a point of conversion early in their life, in God's ultimate redemptive plan for an individual, if he will save them, then he will somehow preserve and protect them until that point of conversion happens in their life, even though such preserving and protecing may not be apparent contemporaneously.
God does work through humans, both saved and unsaved. He employs those whom he will as the means to his ends.
Christians should employ the blessing of their ability to perceive what a person is up to on a case by case basis - there is no Biblical exhortation to be foolish and many to be smart. There is a time for immediate dramatic action and a time for patience; a time to simply hush up, a time to rant and a time to simply speak a wise word or two.
Though we see all the evil and murder of the world happening all around us, God's Word tells us that we have absolutely never any need to fear, and that we should always continue in our faith in God and obedience to his Word.
Arguments from Scripture are, by definition, not logical arguments. Their validity depends on faith in those Scriptures as the word of God.
Something I happen to agree with, but not something it is logical to expect a non-Christian to accept.
When the Apostle Paul spoke to the men of Athens at the Areopagus, he did not quote the Old Testament to prove his arguments.
He spoke with logical arguments and indeed quoted pagan writers his audience would view as authoritative.
That is true. However, this fact does not force someone who doesn't accept the authority of Scripture to reject the original point.
Suppose I say, for example, "Homosexuality is wrong. It is wrong because the Bible says so." If you (a rhetorical "you") disagree with the supporting argument, because you consider the Bible to have no authority, you have not been given evidence that homosexuality is not wrong. You have simply NOT been given evidence that it IS wrong.
If, from this point, you respond, "Because I don't accept the Bible as an authority, and you made a weak argument, I'm going to say, 'Homosexuality isn't wrong!'," then you are not reasoning logically or effectively.
Not quite - Master Yoda leans more toward: "Do not do, wrong is it so"
Absolutely. Respect for life is not the exclusive province of Christians.
I know only one family who are Cherokee in their spirituality, as opposed to simply by descent. They have an only child, and the mom is clear that this was by choice, rather than by accident.
From this, I draw no conclusions about Cherokees as a tribe or Native Americans in the aggregate. However, as with any other distinctive ethnic-cultural group, group survival in the end requires that they reproduce and that they bring up their children to follow their customs.
do remember: the enemy of my enemy is my friend .. verily, dudes
"Implicit in the reasoning is that the normal process of pregnancy is a good thing, "
We are talking Cherokees here, Yes pregnancy would be a good thing. How many abortion clinics did the white man find when he came to the new world?
Am not criticizing Cherokee philosophy or spirituality.
I sincerely doubt they refuse any and all "interference with the natural course of events" as morally wrong, therefore they have some way to distinguish Group A (morally right or indifferent) from Group B (morally wrong) interferences.
If abortion is indeed considered immoral by them, they have a coherent if not necessarily logical reason for that belief, and it cannot be as simple as "an interference with nature."
BTW, what makes you think I am Caucasoid or of European ancestry?
How many tribes practiced torture or cannibalism? Or conversely, how many cancer clinics did the white man find?
Anyhow, my point wasn't about Cherokees but about the precise steps of reasoning that precede the stated position. If a person does not have a position on life issues that is based on his faith, he can base his position on reason, but he should be able to explain his premises and his reasoning process.
On the other hand, he can base his position on emotion or unsupported opinion. We could call that "faith that refuses to admit it is faith."
Or perhaps a natural one. What is more basic then our fight to live? Just try to bathe a cat, they are of the opinion that it puts their life in danger and will fight like heck to get away from what threatens their life.
So an argument could be made that "life good, death bad" is based in natural law.
But in the case of abortion we are not talking about our life but the life of someone else. So in that case it would be "life good, murder bad" which does indeed require a moral judgment.
But I am only on my second cup of coffee, I could be wrong.
Yes, indeed, and I considered saying this was a no-brainer point. However, people kill themselves.
(Other people, like me, get in cars with teenage drivers.)
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this book.
Feser writes like the love child of Thomas Aquinas and Ann Coulter.
I salute your valor. :)
But suicide is generally considered an aberration among people in almost any society (with a few exceptions) and it certainly is not found in non-humans.
"How many tribes practiced torture or cannibalism?" Yea I could quote Rush Limbaugh and say "look what the tribes did to each other"
The tribes by themselves however were a whole different story. They suffered just what the white man suffered in Europe. This idea of prenatal care is a new thing and has changed how many babies make it and from birth to five years of age.
I have a feeling people like the Cherokees don't feel the need to explain themselves when it comes to many things. I got that with the Cherokee man I once knew. One almost had to just figure it out on your own unlike in Christianity where you are told why in the Bible. I believe some religions of the world are just like the Cherokees and if they say it's wrong then you accept it don't do it and move on. Don't ask why maybe you are better off. Ask any woman who has had an abortion she might agree.
Yes, that's true. However, in the context of the article, in persuading non-religious people of the right to life, there generally has to be more reasoning offered than, "It's just wrong."
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Two faculty members and six students from the Department of Recreation and Leisure Studies presented at the New York State Recreation and Parks Society's annual conference on Long Island.
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Biology Professor Jean Hardwick Presents at Association of Neuroscience Departments and Programs's Spring Meeting
Contributed by Nancy Pierce on 04/28/2009
Jean Hardwick gave a presentation, "Neuroscience Research Opportunities at PUIs," at the spring meeting of the Association of Neuroscience Departments and Programs (ANDP) in Bethesda, Maryland.
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Sad News for the Ithaca College Community
Contributed by Jeffrey Scott on 04/28/2009
It is with sadness that we notify the campus community that a Sodexo employee, Jerry Smith, passed away yesterday afternoon.
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Survivor Spoken Mic -- TONIGHT! (April 29)
Contributed by Daniel Wald on 04/27/2009
April 29th - 7pm - IC Square
Spit That! and Students Active For Ending Rape presents "Survivor Spoken Mic." This will be a safe space for survivors, allies, and the IC community to speak and listen.
Our goal is to encourage those who have survived any ordeal to share their experiences and words of inspiration to others , as well as encourage allies and anyone who wants to speak out about violence. We hope that this event will bring solidarity on this campus.
We'd love for everyone and anyone to speak! Whether you wing it, say it from heart, read a blurb, poem, slam poetry, or just speak, all is welcome!
Email: Zaidy Morales - firstname.lastname@example.com or Dan Wald - email@example.com
Spring 2009 LGBT Center Newsletter Available
Contributed by Luca Maurer on 04/27/2009
The spring 2009 issue of the Center for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) Education, Outreach, and Services newsletter is now available.
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Speech Communication Professor Receives Regional Honor for Teaching Excellence
Contributed by Laurie Arliss on 04/27/2009
Danette I. Johnson, professor of speech communication, was named a 2009 Distinguished Teaching Fellow by the Eastern Communication Association (ECA).
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all he's done for our campaign.+ >> i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties. >> assuming one of the benefits to be able to get -- >> we are not as divided as our politics suggest. >> at a time like this we can't risk partisan bickering and political posturing. >> we need to stand up and stop him from fundamentally changing the united states. >> we got to be careful about calling things when we have, like, 991 votes sepin candidate >> well, i'm disappointed. >> we're the shallowest country in the history of man. >> we know in our hearts that for the united states of america, the best is yet to come. ♪ the best is yet to come.
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these are the words of the 44th president of the united states, following his imemphatic victory last night. the family is departing from chicago on air force one, bound for the white house, a place they'll call home for another four years. the president together the most diverse coalition in history, winning a sweep of battleground sta mitt romney to overwhelming defeat. but in his careful and considered speech last night, the president was generous to his opponent and called for the same unity that propelled him to an historic victory just four years ago. >> i believe we can seize this future together. because we are not as divided as our politics suggest. we're not as cynical as the pundits believe. we are greater than the sum of our individual ambitions. and than a collection of red states and blue states.
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we are and forever will be the united states of america. >> that we are greater than our individual ambitions washaps the most resounding message of this election. with a man who staked everything on the entrepreneurial spirit, finding to his complete mortification, constructed out of papier-mache, the cayman bank statements and positions past, it's only fair to say, yes, mr. romney, you did build that. >> like so many of you, paul and i have left everything on the field. we have given our all to this campaign. >> i so wish that i had been able to fulfill your hopeso cou direction, but the nation chose another leader, and so ann and i join with you to earnestly pray
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for him. >> he left everything on the eld. except coherent policy positions, records of his personal finances, details of his tax plan and any kind of genuine vision for this great, great nation. let's get right to our panel. here in new york is msnbc contributor ari, also correspondent for "the nation," in chicago political analyst jonathan coulter, and in pennsylvania, lehigh university professor james peterson. ari your piece in "the nation" today calls the president's win a decisive victory for liberal government. what do you mean? >> i mean that when president obama took office, we had just experienced, if we can think back on it, a profound failure of both government and elite institutions from iraq, foreign policy to finances to the response to hurricane katrina. what president obama did when he came into office was strongly
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and unapologetically assert the government's role in dealing with our problems. in a wide array of he car market, small businesses, tax reform. he that at great personal, political risk. and what he got back in return was, a very strong attack on the notion that we're in this together and that government has a role to play. first in the grass roots of the tea party on the ground and then in the air in what you documented, martin, and what the audience knows, one of the most well-funded attacks in the history of american politics. what i think happened last night is more than just a re-election of barack obama as a man that people trust to lead our country, which is, i ink, good. i think something deeper happened. i think there was an endorsement of the notion, liberal notion, that government has a role to play here and can help everyone and even the playing field. i think we're in an historic period today. >> people said yes. dr. peterson, wasn't there also
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a victory for the president, yes, as ari said, but also a defeat for hate? the defeat of those who maintained a concealed contempt for the president, women, minority, the poor? i've even read today, ted nugent, a columnist for "the washington times," pimps, wohors have a brat for welfare america. that was also a defeat for hate last night. >> it was a defeat with hate listen to the coalition this president has assembled through this election process. have you 93% of the of the latino vote. 70% of the asian-american vote. a majority of young, single women. i mean, it is an extraordinary coalition. look at the movement we made along the lines of progressive politics. you know, we have movement with the legalization of marijuana in a couple of states. that's less about people getting high and more about us addressing the injustices in our
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arrest too many substance abusers. look how many women are in the equality is put on ballots and vote the through. the question really is, can we continue to be behind this, can we continue to push this president and work with him in order to have the kind of effe? forget liberal versus conservative, just any government. >> john boehner, leader of the republican party, he spoke moments ago about the fiscal cliff. take a listen to h >> shoring up entitlements, closing special interest loopholes and moving to a fairer, simpler system will bring jobs home and result in a stronger, healthier economy. >> i'm sorry, john, close loopholes, reform the tax code. that was mitt romney's plan and he lost. is this man deaf? >> you knowñ, martin, i'm going
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to take issue with you on the day after the election. i think what he just said in that particular clip, president obama, speaking for myself, i woh tax reform, simplifying people's taxes, closing loopholes, moving toward long-term deficit reduction. it was some of whathn, no revenn of revenues. >> well, okay. that's what i was about to say. some of the other things he didn't mention, and in previous days has said, that he cannot accept any tax increases on people making over $1 million a year. well, he will have to accept them because the president has the w.h.i.hip hand on this. what the president will do is let the 2001 tax cuts expire on january 1st, at which point taxes on the wealthy will go back to their clinton-era levels, as the president promised during the campaign.
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taxes on everybody else will rise as well. and one assumes that within the first couple of weeks of the new year, the taxes on the middle class are reduced and can be sold as a tax cut. while taxes on t wealthy remain at clinton-era levels. john boehner won't get his way. they lost the election. the election was partly over this issue of raising taxes on wealthy and having a more the president wasn't at all vague or secretive about this. he has a clear mandate about that. my only other point is there are other things like sensible tax reform, closing loopholes, where there really is common ground and they should be able to come to some agreement. >> let us hope so. you don't agree with ari? >> you don't think there's any common ground? >> go ahead. >> i think it's pretty clearf you look at everyeye agenda rep
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obstructed, denied votes entirely, or opposed it when there were votes. i think that's across the board the problem with the message we got yesterday from the republican leaders is, we're now looking at the apex of time for graciousness and cooperation, right? there's no time in american history when it's more expected -- >> absolutely. >> -- than the night of the re-election of the president of the united states -- >> what did you get from john boehner? >> 300-plus electoral votes -- >> mcconnell was worse. >> i agree, he was worse. neither took the chance to even broadly, generally, sound a note of cooperation. so, here's the thing. here's where we're going. we're going to go into now a president with an overwhelming mandate, a re-elected mandate, a real coalition. we're now going to have t lies about bipartisanship. it's not about bipartisanship. it's about solutions. if the republicans want to come in against this re-t -- i mean,
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thin-- know what jonathan means, he mentioned the president letting the tax cuts expire. no, no. the congress handles that. the congress has the taxing power of the constitution. if the republican house wants to raise taxes on everyone as opening salvo, i say let them. let's go forward. we know the stakes. >> let me for you rush couldn't have an opening segment in our broadcast without them. he appears to be losing his mind over accusations the gop is too old and too white. take a listen to the great rush. >> clarence thomas, herman cain, none of it counts. don't tell me the republican party doesn't have outreach. we did. but what are we supposed to do now? are we supposed to -- in order to get the hispanic or latino vote, does that mean open the borders and embrace the illegals? is that what -- i want you to think about this. if we're not getting the female vote, do we become pro choice?
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do we start passing out birth control pills? is that what we have to do? >> professor peterson, open the borders and everyone receive contraception. what do you believe? >> the discourse of hate is dying out. there's a lot of problems with what he's talking about but i'll take issue with a couple perform herman cain clarence thomas and folk that represent those th that tokenism. we want equitable representation. maybe rush limbaugh doesn't unrstand that up. don't have to be passing out birth control to understand women have the right to choose what they're going to do with their bodies. can you still be pro life, just don't impose your religious ideology on everyone else in the country. there has to be middle ground. rush limbaugh will never get there but that brand of hateful discourse is diminishing in its popularity. there's a way in which the
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coalition which was put together to re-elect this president is a the ways we can move forward in this country. it's not about bipartisanship or left/right, it's about being effective and progressive. we have a lot of signals in terms of last night that we're moving in the right direction. >> gentlemen, we don't have any more time. thank you all so much. next, why some people still just don't get it. stay with us. >> with this vote the american people have also made clear that there's no mandate for raising tax rates.gtih [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbels healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do.
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some so-called pundits are saying the president'sap supporters shouldn't overindulge in celebrating today, but if they must do so with he mother of all beatings. this wasn't a points decision. he was knocked out cold. joining me in new yoris a colum guardian," jonathan capehart and an msnbc contributor, writer for "the washington post." hello. >> if i can start with you, which was worse for mitt romney, his inept performance as a candidate or that republicans have yet to discover black ople, hispanics, women, anyone under the age of 30? which is worse? >> well, i tnk they're both worse. it's worse for mitt romney because, you know, couldn't quite figure out what he wanted to do with his
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campaign. we talked many, many times on your show about where are his ideas, where are his plans, where are his tax returns? and he got shellacked at the polls. now the sadness and despair and trauma moves to the party as a whole, because as you've said, the republican party has to deal with the fact that it is now confronted by a nation that doesn't look like its party. the country is younger, it's blacker and browner. and it doesn't look like the republican party. if the republican party want to go -- wants to, you know, remain a regional party, then it can just keep doing what it's doing. if it wants to be a governing national party, it must figure out who it is and how it's going to relate to people of color. otherwise it's going to die. >> right. an marie, you wrote today that republicans can no longer rely on home phobfoe" homophobia to
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election. >> they can't rely on people people turning out to deny rights. if you look at 2004, 11 states passed anti-marriage amendments. i'm not going to call them anti-gay marriage amendments, because that's what they are. the karl roves of the world counted on those voters to elect bush. they did. this year we had three states in the nation in history to legalize g marriage, to expand marriage equality by popular vote. this is no longer a case of in. this is a case of the american people deciding, you know what, marriage is for everyone. >> it's a civil right and everyone should have it. jonathan, republicans as you know threw every dirty trick at the president and lost. ling the president as some mon. non-american who disdains judeo christian values and hands out
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three telephones, failed. every lesson they have had to learn? >> one can only hope. this is what the republicans were hoping. they were hoping that folks would believe their tales about the president, but as we saw in poll after poll after poll, the president's job approval rating was low, his handling ofhelow, do you actually like this person personally, the president's approval numbers were through the roof. >> and do you trust this president? do you trust him? >> yes, yes, that was the other thing. know barack obama. they know what he for, where he wanted to take the country. the other problem for the republicans is they didn't come back wit aso, you know, what hat night was bound to happen. >> well, to jonathan's point, d
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happened? let's listen to the great charles krout hammer. >> i think the real story here is obama won but he has no mandate. he won by going very small, very negative. and we are left as a country exactly where we started but a little worse off. i think that the future of the party is quite bright. >> i need to apologizee to any young viewers whoave been frightened by that face. i believe theuture of the gop is quite bright. what is he talking about? >> i don't know. that he is -- >> quite brat they don't -- >> quite bright if he's talking about the co on of the republican party. you know, it does reflect more light than people who are slightly darker color. >> right. >> there's that. i wanted to add to your statement that the republican party is whiter than the rest of the nation. it also has -- it's more male. i mean, it's more male, less tolerant. i have to say that charles
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krauthammer is a practicing psychiatrist. he also volunteered to write prescriptions for anyone that may need them. and i would say that maybe they need not antianxiety drugs but perhaps mood stabilizing. they're looking at crazy way. their reality is falling apart but the question, was that ever reality? those so-called skewed polls they were trying to interpret through their lens turned out to be right. that's what you heard on fox news all night. like this confusion. >> yes, yes. >> and they also said the bureau of labor of statistics was just wrong. they challenged every reality, didn't they? >> they did. >> they kind of held on to the delusion. jonathan, i column, and i know you were heart broken to hear alan west will not be returning to congress. >> no. >> is there anything you would like to say to console mr. west in his moment of grief? >> bye.
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>> well, i'm disappointed. >> the romney campaign is not conceding ohio. >> still, cross my fingers, waiting to hear about ohio. >> candy, candy, candy, candy, come on now. >> do you believe ohio has been settled? >> no, i don't. look, if we are calling this on the basis of 74% of the vote being in and when 77% is in, secretary of state, i got director of ohio campaign on romney on the other end of the line refreshing the page every few seconds. >> help me! help me! oh, my world! >> it's not a traditional america anymore. >> how do2016? >> all i'm saying is, we've had one instance where something was prematurely called. >> for the united states of america, the best is yet to come. >> try to get to the bottom of this. >> he's crunching numbers. he's writing furiously. >> do you stand by your call in ohio? >> we're quite comfortable with the call in ohio. >> no word on mitt romney making any kind of a concession speech. >> i so wish i had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the
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country. >> it's a perplexing time for many of us right now. >> the nation chose another leader. >> the white establishment is now the minority. >> lets go right to our panel now. msnbc contrib goldie taylor and msnbc contributor joy reed is manager of the grio.com. forgive me for personalizing it. you appear to be the emben of modern america but it's something mitt romney, republicans, fox news don't seem capable of far back as maybe 1996 whe newt gingrich was pulling people together like j.c. watts and wanting to expand the big tent that was supposed to be the gop. ironically enough or unfortunately in the time since, that tent has only gotten smaller. they're playing to a more and
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more extreme base that is getting, you know,nd all of the time. meanwhile the rest of the country is getting younger, more brown. women are growing in economic power and political heft, as we saw last evening with the election of soannators across t. and so the country is literally growing against the gop base. it's unfortunate that even today many, many years after 1996 that this gop still has not recognized that it is not about whether or not they're reaching out but whether or not they're listening to those constituencies they want to represent. do you agree? >> i think what we're seeing is the aftermath of the culture wars. i've had a theory the culture wars ended a long time ago and both sides understand who won and it was this new america, this more diverse, more tolerant america. and i think the most charitable way to look at it, there are
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most people, older, in the south, that look at this country and don't recognize it. they feel it's been stolen away by immigrants, african-americans, people they don't see as prototypical american as they are. >> he said repeatedly i wanted to take back america. he wants to take it back to 1953 as opposed to 2012. >> where they felt comfortable. just by being in their own skin they had power. now i think a lot of people feel disempowered and seeing barack obama re-elected aspresident, you know, confis their worst fears, maybe this wasn't a fle. it may be this other america really is dominant. >> on fox news l as know, it was something of a dark night of the soul. i'd like you to take a listen to the performance of karl rove. just bear in mind, this man's super pac spent over $300 million attacking the president. here is he. >> even if they have made it on the basis of select" precincts, i'd be very cautious about intruding in this process.
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>> well, folks -- >> thanks. >> -- so maybe not so fast. >> thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> great to have you guys here. >> that's awkward. >> that's awkward. >> goldie, did you get the impression he was trying to bring back the ghost of 2000 there? >> it is ironic that this karl want a network to reverse a call in florida in a prior election. you know,#c and then -- you kno could not for the life of me fathom someoneh after a landslide like this. joy and i talked about this, i did another show some weeks ago and said the president would get 30 0-plus electoral votes, as many as 330.
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everyone on that panel laughed me off as irrelevant and silly. and last night as the returns came in, this race was never close. it was never going to be the model that karl rove thought it was. certainly never was going to be on the model that dick morris thought it was. here is the clencher. they modeled this on 78% white turnout. >> yes. >> it was 72%. so white america is shrinking. they haven't come, you know, really to grips with that. >> joy, there are so many flaccid bags of toxic waste on the republican side at the moment. we have donald trump and, of course, the revolting john s iin he talks, dick morris and he said, i'm quoting, i predicted a romney landslide and instead we ended up with an obama squeaker.
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that's an obama squeaker. he's at 303, he could be at 330 with florida. it's a squeaker? >> because there is this age of unreality. because conservatives -- >> even after the election's been counted, unreality continues. didn't happen. >> doesn't happen. >> and it will never happen. >> the president's not been re-elected. >> i watched a little bit of a certain network today because i wanted to experience it for myself. if you livet universe they've hermetically sealed themselves inside, barack obama can only be ected through fraud, there are no actualsuppo hypnotized -- >> i so appreciate you explaining this to me. >> they've developed this alternate reality because it feels good. and, unfortunately, they haven't -- there's no adult in that party who can say to the voters on the republican side, you lost this election and here's why. you're too extreme and let me explain to you why that invitens people. there isn't anyone. even mitt romney doesn't have the stature to do it. >> we are watching the first family arriving at the airport
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in chicago, about to board air force one. we were speaking -- you were aren't many! people there is own-ups in the say. establishment is now the minority. you're going to see a tremendous hispanic vote for president obama. overwhelming black vote for president obama. and women will probably break president obama's way. people feel that they are entitled to things. and which candidate between the two is going to give them things? >> does that remind you of the president being described as someone who gives free stuff? remember that fund-raiser -- >> i remember when÷ mitt romn came from the naacp saying, they want free >> they are victims -- >> that's the meaning of socialism, they want to take my hard-earned dollars and give
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them to those people for their stuff. that's really what this -- it's -- >> but if you treat the electorate with absute contpton't elect you, why do you g on television when the result has come i and continue to treat the electorate with contempt? >> this is a party that's built its base on workers who have willingly become unions. these are states particularly in the south that are basket cases, wards of the federal government. they take in more federal tax dollars than they give, than they could ever give. the blue states subsidizing on the same they say is evil and socialist. they're in a disconnect with fede at bill morris, people at that network.g and then they turn around and make money off them because they sell viagra on air.
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>> they do. we're watching the first family. they're expected the helicopter -- i believe, is two the president? daughters descending the stairs and the first lady as well. they'll be aro air force one and making the trip back to washington very soon, indeed. they're smi!ling at us. already, gold y some on the right have attempted to d de-legitimize the results. >> donald trump is trolling twitter. mitch mcconnell said this is not a mandate, that this broad-based supported, like this coalition, unlike any coalition we've seen in american politics, doesn't say something to this country about itself and about the direction that we are choosing to take the vision we bought into. if that isn't a mandate, i don't know what is.
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>> well, i mean, it's interesting because i also heard the other mean going around is that the presidenthould show humility. he needs to comport himself in a way he doesn't come across as a victor. he almost needs to come hat in hand to t right and ask them what they need. >> that he's responsible for bipartisanship. i've said, that's privilege inaction when you're asking this particular president that he should be the one hat in hand, he's the one walking home -- >> and he did win. >> after all. >> goldie taylor and joy reid, thank you so much. maybe mitt should have stuck with ann. stay with us. >> besides my wife ann, paul is the best choicve and i trust his intellect and hard work and commitment to principle will continue to contribute to the good of our nation. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix.
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go to oralb.com for the latest offers. we are not going to duck these tough issues. es.will not duck the tough we will lead. we are not going to duck these tough issues. >> we've had a lot of fun over the past few months with a certain right wing golden boy. for those w may be worried this fun is coming to an end, take heart, we still have paul ryan to kick around. that's right. the republican party's leading intellectual announced today he's returning to his seat in the united states house of representatives, where hserves as chairman of the budget so, m. lost but his war against medicare and social security carries on. let's bring in dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." dana, has this election damaged the paul ryan brand or is he still the golden boy? >> well, he's still the goldena
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conservatives who basically dominate this caucus. th dynamichere. you had john boehner come out today and actually float the idea of, heaven forbid, an increase in tax revenues. that's a direct repudiation of what paul ryan has stood for. because he tied himself to closely to paul ryan's economic plan, it basically became a repudiation of that plan as well. >> now, paul ryan is often mentione as a possible presidential candidate for 2016. but don't reblicans have to have a serious think about that? i mean, given last night's results, is paul ryan part of the solution for them or part of the problem? >> on the positive side he probably comes out better out of this election than sarah palin did. "@ >> that's an exponential difference. >> yes, we can give him faint
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praise here. he's staep established himself as a serious intellectual. now, the policies he's espousing for the moment have been knocked down by the electorate. obviously, four years from now, things could be very different. but he's certainly going to be a power player on the hill here. you'll see a lot of tension between him and the establishment that's trying to reign he's people in and say, look, have you to respect the will of the electorate. >> the truth is, here's the question, dana, does this man continue to commit himself to his promise and pledge to grover norquist or does he face reality after the shellacking that his ticket has just been given by the president? >> here's the thing. i sat down at a breakfast with him a couple years ago and he said why he didn't want to go with the simpson/bowles plan. he said, i want to take this to the voter and let them decide. congressman, they decided. now what? is he going to say, voter decided, now i retreat?
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there's nothing that suggests he would do that which is why it looks like there could be a lot of blood shed on that side of the capitol. >> you should know he suffers with selective amnesia as you know in records of marathons and so forth so he probably forgot what he said to you at breakfast. thank you so much. next, divided. really? is america far apart as some punters might think? stay with us. /<
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us from chicago. i imagine the white house is preparing for the triumphant return of the president and his family. >> reporter: staffers heard out here on pennsylvania avenue, on lafayette park, they arebm building the inaugural stands. they started doing that last week, ac came by last night. ru from george washington qiversity and other universities, really from all directions around northwest washington, gathering in lafayette park. it was quite a scene. that's when the celebration started here in washington. those staffers working in the west wing could hear them. we're doing something allowed t do. we're going to see the president south lawn. with the first lady and tir two daughters. we're told there are going to be a lot of staffers out there to greet them as they come back here. a triumphant return. they're going to be living in this building, apparently, for another four years. >> and you'll be covering them. michael, take it in the context
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of history and demographic dominance enjoyed by the president last night. is the country really divided or is that wishful thinking on the part of those who lost last night? it's divided but perhaps not evey divided. that should allow barack obama to say, i sure did get a mandate and congress should be aware of that. if there was a republican leader today who said he didn't have a mandate, that's so against american tradition. you know, one thing, martin, as long as we're talking about history, it was so much easier for a president to get along with congress and get congress to sometimes make sacrificesx during world war ii and the war. the second bill clinton was t to suffer from this. member of congress are much less likely to do what they did, especially during thej cold wa >> theel likely to be short-lived becaus plenty this president to address, which, of course there's the fiscal cliff. i mean, do you -- i mean, what
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do you, mike, expect him to begin tackling in his second term? what do you think the list of priorities will be? >> so much for a honeymoon. one thing is clear, that's that we'll seen i grand scale in terms of a grand bargain along the lines of simpson/bowles. that might not be big enough for some people. they were talking about some $4 trillion in deficit reduction. i think that's what's on the table. when you hear what the president said in the weeks leading up to it and immediately after, he already called the congressional leader. you heard the nuanced statement from speaker boehner putting things on the table in a veryco. he wasn't for raising taxes but tax revenues. he cited reagan and tip o'neill the '80s, maybe the speaker needed to be reminded, taxes were raised. >> how would you characterize
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this president's second prential victory? >> i think it was decisive. he had almost the exact same margin that john kennedy did in electoral votes over nixon in the '60s. you know, mike was mentioning the word honeoon. it worries me, breaks my heart to think the word is antique. it was a newly elected president would get 90, 100 days in which would try to get along. '92, bill clinton won, bob dole went on tv and said, i'm representing 57% of americans whoon. you know, that's the kind of tradition wwould be, indeed. thank you both. ♪
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NCAA Game Night: 10-11-14Submitted by chad on October 11, 2014 - 22:34
No. 2 North Dakota 2 @ Bemidji State Beavers 1
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-1-1, +1, 0 PIM, 1 SOG
Season totals: 2 GP, 0-0-0, -2, 0 PIM
2013-2014 totals: 34 GP, 7-11-18, +7, 10 PIM
North Dakota avenged a Friday night loss to the Beavers by winning 2-1 on Saturday. O'Donnell didn't start on the first line, but did manage a primary assist.
Bentley Falcons 3 vs No. 15 Quinnipiac Bobcats 5
F Matthew Peca, QU: 1-1-2, E, 0 PIM, 1 SOG
2014-2015 totals: 40 GP, 12-26-38, +4, 16 PIM
Quinnipiac opened their 2014-2015 season with a win over Bentley, though it didn't come easy. The Bobcats needed a late empty net goal to provide breathing room against the Falcons. Peca played first line center for QU and contributed a goal and an assist.
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NCAA Game Night: 10-10-14Submitted by chad on October 10, 2014 - 22:42
No. 20 Boston University Terriers 8 vs UMass Minutemen 1
D John MacLeod, BU: 0-1-1, +1, 6 PIM, 1 SOG
2013-2014 totals: 19 GP, 1-4-5, +1, 36 PIM
"Johnny-Mac" (pictured) notched his first collegiate point and all-everything freshman Jack Eichel had two goals and four points as the Terriers put a snowman up on the UMass scoreboard, 8-1. There were three penalties in the game, all on MacLeod.
Bemidji State Beavers 4 vs No. 2 North Dakota 1
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-0-0, -2, 0 PIM, 0 SOG
2013-2014 totals: 34 GP, 7-11-18, +7, 10 PIM
North Dakota was routed in their season debut, 4-1 by Bemidji State. As expected, O'Donnell started on UND's first line. Blackhawks first rounder Nick Schmaltz was the only North Dakota player to register a goal. Brendan Harms (undrafted) had two goals for the Beavers.
Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs 3 vs No. 1 Minnesota Golden Gophers 4
Ice Breaker Tournament at Notre Dame
G Adam Wilcox, MIN: Win, 24 saves on 27 shots
2013-2014 totals: 38 GP, 26-6-6, 1.97 GAA, .932 sv%, 4 SO
The Gophers had a 4-1 lead against the rival Bulldogs, but J.T. Brown's alma mater cut Minnesota's lead to 4-3 in the third period. Wilcox shut the door the rest of the way. The Lightning prospect and Hobey Baker candidate was beaten by a weak-side one-timer in the crease, a wrist shot from the RW circle, and a low-high one-timer from behind the net.
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Frozen Four Game Night: 4-12-14Submitted by chad on April 12, 2014 - 22:49
No. 1 Union Dutchmen 7 vs No. 2 Minnesota Golden Gophers 4
National Championship
G Adam Wilcox, MIN: Loss, 42 saves on 48 shots
Season totals: 38 GP, 26-6-6, 1.97 GAA, .932 sv%, 4 SO
2012-2013 totals: 39 GP, 25-8-5, 1.88 GAA, .921 sv%, 3 SO
Minnesota fell short of their sixth national championship, losing in the finals to tiny Union College, 7-4. The Gophers held 1-0 and 2-1 leads in the game, but soft defensive play and ill-timed penalties did them in. Despite giving up six goals – a season high – Adam Wilcox was excellent for the Gophers (the last goal was an empty netter). As Barry Melrose said after the first period, if Wilcox was just average, the score would have been 8-2 after one period. The sixth goal was one he would have liked to have had back, however. Minnesota had pulled within a goal late in the third and Wilcox had an unscreened wrist shot go through him. At the 10-minute mark of the third he made two outstanding saves to keep it a 5-3 game.
Wilcox's sophomore season is over and it was special even without the national championship. With the Lightning's depth it goal, it would seem Wilcox would return for his junior season, but one never knows. He's certainly talented enough to succeed in professional hockey next year. Congrats to Wilcox on an outstanding season.
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Frozen Four Game Night: 4-10-14Submitted by chad on April 10, 2014 - 22:29
No. 13 North Dakota 1 vs No. 2 Minnesota Golden Gophers 2
National Semifinal
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-0-0, +1, 0 PIM, 1 SOG
Season totals: 35 GP, 7-11-18, +8, 10 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 29 GP, 2-8-10, E, 20 PIM
G Adam Wilcox, MIN: Win, 36 saves on 37 shots
Season totals: 37 GP, 26-5-6, 1.86 GAA, .935 sv%, 4 SO
2012-2013 totals: 39 GP, 25-8-5, 1.88 GAA, .921 sv%, 3 SO
Minnesota scored a shorthanded goal with .6 seconds left in regulation, sending the Gophers to the national championship game at the Frozen Four in Philadelphia. The No. 2 Gophers will face top-ranked Union on Saturday night. O'Donnell was on the ice for UND's lone goal, scored less than a minute after Minnesota had taken a 1-0 lead in the third period over their longtime rivals. Wilcox stopped 36 shots, including four during UND's last minute power play. Justin Holl scored the game winner for the Gophers, finding the puck in his skates in front of the UND net and sliding the puck home. Minnesota had just won an own-zone faceoff with 10 seconds left and rushed up the ice hoping to avoid overtime. They did, and now have a chance at a championship.
O'Donnell's junior season ends with career highs in goals, assists, and points. All signs point to him returning to North Dakota for his senior season next fall.
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Bolt Prospect of the Week: March 31, 2014Submitted by chad on March 31, 2014 - 20:45
We continue our Bolt Prospect of the Week award, an honor (virtually) given to one Tampa Bay Lightning prospect for their recent contributions on and off the ice.
The Bolt Prospect of the Week for March 24, 2014 is … Adam Wilcox, G, Minnesota Golden Gophers (NCAA - USA).
Adam Wilcox's trophy mantle is filling up. It's a good thing the Bolt Prospect of the Week award doesn't come with a big, honkin' trophy.
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NCAA Game Night: 3-30-14Submitted by chad on March 30, 2014 - 21:48
No. 8 St. Cloud State Huskies 0 vs No. 2 Minnesota Golden Gophers 4
West Regional Finals
G Adam Wilcox, MIN: Win, 24 saves on 24 shots, shutout
Season totals: 36 GP, 25-5-6, 1.89 GAA, .934 sv%, 4 SO
2012-2013 totals: 39 GP, 25-8-5, 1.88 GAA, .921 sv%, 3 SO
Adam Wilcox stopped all 24 shots he faced and freshman Justin Kloos (undrafted) scored twice to lead the Gophers back to the Frozen Four with a 4-0 win over St. Cloud State. Kloos was named MVP for the region. Minnesota's defense was solid all night, limiting the Huskies to just a few scoring chances, but when they occurred, Wilcox stood tall. Minnesota will play Lightning prospect Brendan O'Donnell and the Gophers' former WCHA rival, North Dakota in Philadelphia. Union plays Boston College in the other national semifinal. The Frozen Four features three top seeds and one fourth seed, North Dakota. The tournament gets underway April 10.
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NCAA Game Night: 3-29-14Submitted by chad on March 29, 2014 - 21:37
No. 6 Ferris State Bulldogs 1 vs No. 13 North Dakota 2 (2OT)
Midwest Regional Finals
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-0-0, +1, 0 PIM, 2 SOG
Season totals: 34 GP, 7-11-18, +7, 10 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 29 GP, 2-8-10, E, 20 PIM
Conner Gaarder (undrafted) scored at 2:28 of the second overtime to send North Dakota to the Frozen Four as Midwest Region champs. O'Donnell was on the ice when the game-winner was scored. Ferris State outshot UND 45-26, including 12-2 in the third period and 14-6 in the first overtime, but UND goaltender Zane Gothberg (Bruins) held steady.
Robert Morris Colonials 3 vs No. 2 Minnesota Golden Gophers 7
West Regional Semifinals
G Adam Wilcox, MIN: Win, 22 saves on 25 shots
Season totals: 35 GP, 24-5-6, 1.94 GAA, .932 sv%, 3 SO
2012-2013 totals: 39 GP, 25-8-5, 1.88 GAA, .921 sv%, 3 SO
The Gophers scored the game's first four goals and never looked back, defeating the Colonials, 7-3, to advance to the West Regional Finals against the winner of St. Cloud State and Notre Dame. The closest RMU got was 4-2 before Minnesota extended their lead.
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NCAA Game Night: 3-28-14Submitted by chad on March 28, 2014 - 21:50
No. 4 Wisconsin Badgers 2 vs No. 13 North Dakota 5
Midwest Regional Semifinals
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-1-1, E, 2 PIM, 0 SOG
Season totals: 33 GP, 7-11-18, +6, 10 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 29 GP, 2-8-10, E, 20 PIM
Fourth-seeded North Dakota upset top-seeded Wisconsin in the Midwest Regional Semifinals, 5-2. The Badgers tied the game at 2 with half a period to go, but O'Donnell's slapshot from the right point hit teammate Mark MacMillan in the back and bounced into the net to give UND a lead they'd never relinquish. Panthers prospect Rocco Grimaldi scored two empty net goals to give him three goals in the game and seal the win for the former Sioux. UND will meet Ferris State on Saturday for the right to go to the Frozen Four.
No. 10 Providence Friars 4 vs No. 7 Quinnipiac Bobcats 0
East Regional Semifinals
F Matthew Peca, QU: 0-0-0, E, 0 PIM, 4 SOG
Season totals: 40 GP, 12-26-38, +4, 16 PIM
2013-2014 totals: 39 GP, 15-15-30, +14, 36 PIM
Friars goalie Jon Gillies stopped all 37 shots he faced to shut out the second-seeded Bobcats and lead third-seeded Providence to within one win of the Frozen Four. Providence will play Union on Saturday. Peca's junior season is over and it's possible he gets a contract offer from Tampa Bay to leave school and join AHL Syracuse. He told the Tampa Tribune's Erik Erlendsson in July that he'd be open to leaving school after his junior season. Whether Lightning GM Steve Yzerman thinks pro hockey is the best thing for Peca now and next year is another story. There isn't a lot of room in the Syracuse forward ranks for next season. Peca is a special talent with impressive intangibles. He played center this year for the first time in college. He could return to the Bobcats as their frontline center.
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NCAA Game Night: 3-22-14Submitted by chad on March 22, 2014 - 21:10
Miami RedHawks 3 vs Denver Pioneers 4
NCHC Finals
F Jimmy Mullin, MIA: Did not play
Season totals: 19 GP, 1-6-7, +3, 23 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 38 GP, 6-8-14, E, 14 PIM
Mullin was scratched with a lower body injury. The RedHawks' season is likely over after their end-of-year streak that got them within a goal or two of winning the conference title. Mullin will be a senior next year.
Western Michigan Broncos 0 vs No. 10 North Dakota 5
NCHC Third Place Game
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-2-2, +2, 0 PIM, 3 SOG
Season totals: 32 GP, 7-10-17, +7, 8 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 29 GP, 2-8-10, E, 20 PIM
O'Donnell had two assists to help North Dakota to a win in the NCHC Third Place Game.
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NCAA Game Night: 3-21-14Submitted by chad on March 21, 2014 - 21:36
Miami RedHawks 3 vs No. 11 North Dakota 0
NCHC Semifinals
F Jimmy Mullin, MIA: Did not play
Season totals: 19 GP, 1-6-7, +3, 23 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 38 GP, 6-8-14, E, 14 PIM
F Brendan O'Donnell, UND: 0-0-0, E, 0 PIM, 2 SOG
Season totals: 31 GP, 7-8-15, +5, 8 PIM
2012-2013 totals: 29 GP, 2-8-10, E, 20 PIM
Miami continued their hot streak after knocking off top-seeded St. Cloud State last weekend, beating North Dakota, 3-0, in the NCHC semifinals on Friday night. Mullin remains out for the RedHawks with a lower body injury. O'Donnell and North Dakota will wait to see where they play in the national tournament. Miami will play Denver for the first NCHC championship.
No. 14 Colgate Raiders 3 vs No. 5 Quinnipiac Bobcats 2 (2OT)
ECAC Semifinals
F Matthew Peca, QU: 0-1-1, -3, 0 PIM, 2 SOG
Season totals: 39 GP, 12-26-38, +5, 16 PIM
2013-2014 totals: 39 GP, 15-15-30, +14, 36 PIM
Quinnipiac will go another year without an ECAC championship as they blew a 2-0 lead and fell in double overtime to Colgate, 3-2, in the semifinals. Peca had a power play assist on a one-touch pass into the slot to help the Bobcats to a 2-0 lead. He was on the ice late in the third period with Colgate's goalie pulled, covering high as Colgate banged away at a loose puck in the crease to tie the game at two. In double overtime, Peca came off the bench to backcheck on an odd-man rush. Colgate's initial shot caromed back into the high slot and a QU defenseman lost his feet, enabling a clear shot for a Raider player to win the game. The Bobcats will next play in the national tournament.
Ohio State Buckeyes 3 vs No. 1 Minnesota Golden Gophers 1
Big 10 Semifinals
G Adam Wilcox, MIN: Loss, 22 saves on 24 shots
Season totals: 34 GP, 23-5-6, 1.91 GAA, .934 sv%, 3 SO
2012-2013 totals: 39 GP, 25-8-5, 1.88 GAA, .921 sv%, 3 SO
Wilcox, who was named a Hobey Baker Award finalist earlier in the week, allowed two goals to Ohio State, but the story was the Gophers picking a bad time for sloppy play. Minnesota wasn't themselves on Friday night, especially late in the third period when they struggled to even get the puck in deep on the forecheck. One of those failed opportunities resulted in an empty net goal. The Gophers will await their seeding in the national tournament.
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Primary Care: Dr. Careyana Brenham is your primary contact at SIUMED FCM. To schedule an appointment call 757-8100, and be sure to identify yourself as a medical student. You should not be evaluated by another student or resident unless you waive that right. You will have to pay the co-pay of $6.00 to go to SIUMED FCM.
If a provider orders labs or simple x-rays, you should get these at Memorial Medical Center, and show them your insurance card.
Specialty Care, ER Visits and Expensive Tests: In order to have any of these paid for, you must have prior approval from SIUMED FCM. If approved, there is a $100.00 per year deductible you must pay. After that, your insurance will cover 80% of the agreed cost. You will be responsible for the remaining 20%. All bills should be directed to SIUMED FCM--NOT Healthlink.
Needle Sticks & Blood Borne Pathogens Exposure
During work hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., immediately call the ID Nurse at 217-545-8970, pager #217-492-2446, located at MMC in Room A474. After hours, weekends or holidays call the SIU Answering Service at 545-5880 and have them page the ID physician on call.
The following exposure forms also need to be completed:
Mental Health
Ginny Zahrn is available for both mental health counseling. Dr. Erik Constance, Dr. Careyana Brenham at Family Medicine, and Ms. Zahrn are all available depending on your comfort level to assist you in accessing mental health providers. You may schedule an appointment to see Ms. Zahrn by calling 545-7078.
Springfield students may send prescriptions to the SIU Carbondale Pharmacy to be filled. Include: your name, address, DOB, student ID number (aka SS#), phone number, known drug allergies, and that the prescription is for a Springfield School of Medicine student. Dr. Brenham may also fax or call prescriptions to Carbondale at the time of visit.
Students mail prescription to: Student Health Program Pharmacy, 374 East Grand Avenue, Carbondale IL 62901-6802. Students may call Sue Chaney (618) 453-4417 for refills on established prescriptions and also to inquire about the cost. However, once the script is sent and filled you may not return it. Pharmacy ships via UPS on Monday afternoon weekly to Springfield Office of Student Affairs and distributed confidentially to the student.
Remember that Walmart and Target stores will fill many generic prescriptions for $4.00. Meijer stores will fill some antibiotic prescriptions for free.
SIUMED Infection Control Policies
Medical Insurance Plan Office
Student Health Center
374 East Grand Avenue, 2nd Floor
Carbondale, IL 62901-6802
(618) 453-4413


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