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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford's admitted alcohol and drug use have shone a glaring spotlight on addiction and substance abuse. But have Ford's troubles raised the kind of awareness that is beneficial or harmful to the public's understanding of the disease and those struggling with their own booze and drug-abuse demons?
"I have never seen the issue of substance abuse get this much profile," said Rebecca Jesseman, a research and policy analyst at the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse in Ottawa. "I think that the fact that these questions and opportunities and dialogue are being raised is beneficial.
"What's important is to ensure that the light in which those discussions are being held keeps in mind the fact that substance abuse is a very real problem and it's a problem that is helped by our colleagues, our friends, by our family members," Jesseman said. "And it's something that touches all Canadians."
Ford has repeatedly denied he has an alcohol or drug addiction, and he did so again Wednesday as Toronto city councillors approved a motion to have him take a leave of absence.
His family has backed up his assertions and agreed with his decision not to resign or take a leave, despite a chorus of voices – from political friends and foes alike to members of the public – encouraging him to do just that.
Dr. Mark Ujjainwalla, an Ottawa addiction-medicine physician, said Ford's extreme behaviour – including the obscenity-laden death threat secretly captured on video – is in line with many of the signs associated with alcohol and often drug abuse.
But the 25-year veteran of addiction treatment doesn't think the Ford saga has done much for the public perception of addiction or those caught in its relentless grip.
"It has done absolutely nothing except to make it worse, because people are saying this guy's crazy, he's on cocaine, he's a bad person," said Ujjainwalla, whose Recovery Ottawa clinic provides treatment for people hooked on opioids.
"The way I see it is these people are ill. They're not bad people trying to get good, they're sick people trying to get well, that need our help. And it's our responsibility to educate the average person, which is what I'm trying to do with my clinic … but I can tell you it's a hard sell."
Despite substance abuse affecting every segment of society – Ujjainwalla has treated virtually every profession, from priests and pilots to politicians and physicians – there is often a public attitude that alcoholics and drug addicts "deserve everything they get," he said.
Dr. Tim Stockwell, director of the Centre for Addictions Research of B.C. in Victoria, said Ford's travails have certainly raised Canadians' awareness about alcohol and drug addiction – but in a mixed way.
"The good part I'm hearing is a lot of compassion, even if people are assuming correctly or not that he does have a serious problem with alcohol and drugs," said Stockwell, who was in Toronto on Wednesday evaluating addiction harm-reduction programs in the city.
"A lot of people are coming out and talking about it compassionately or sympathetically – that he needs help."
But Stockwell believes many people have, without first-hand knowledge, made stereotypical judgments about the extent of Ford's drinking and need for treatment, which is "very stigmatizing."
"I think the message that comes over very clearly is that if somebody has this kind of problem, they're unfit for work," he said. "So this is telling anybody who has this kind of problem [that they're] not a proper person to be trusted and that you can deal with."
Stockwell said the ridiculing send-ups of Ford by late-night talk-show hosts have also fuelled the stigma felt by people with substance-abuse issues: "It's making fun of somebody who had a drug and alcohol problem, having already assumed that they do.
"Just pause before you make jokes about somebody who may be suffering with a drug or alcohol problem. Think about the impact that might have on other people suffering these problems who aren't quite so high-profile and what that might do to their feelings of self-worth."
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A member of an (Always) evil group being raised by good people
I don't think this exists, but basically, this is the opposite of Raised by Orcs. In that trope, someone who is from a good group is raised by villains; this is the opposite. This trope, like the other one, gets into the nurture/nature issue. Sometimes, the "orc" will turn out good, thanks to their upbringing, but at other occasions, being evil is In the Blood. Compare with The Farmer and the Viper, which sometimes overlaps, although that's more generally about evil characters being incapable of reciprocating kindness.
- In the New Gods series, Orion is this, being part of an experiment/peace deal that also included Raised by Orcs. Scott Free was the son of one of the benevolent deities and was given to be raised by the Evil Overlord Darkseid. Darkseid's son, Orion, was raised in his place. Both of them grow up to be heroes.
- This is interestingly presented in Thor. Loki had always felt different but never realized he was a Frost Giant, since his Shapeshifting powers disguised his true appearance. When he discovers the truth, he's furious, especially because while Odin loved him, Odin is right that he was more or less taken as a bargaining chip to guarantee good behavior by the Frost Giants. Loki goes on to make a deal with the Giants and allow them to invade Asgard which is actually part of a Batman Gambit- Loki hates Frost Giants and in a twisted way of proving his loyalty to Asgard, planned to wipe out his own species.
- Veil in Outcast of Redwall is a vermin (and thus Always Chaotic Evil) raised by the Abbey Dwellers (generally Always Lawful Good) and is presented as definitely leaning toward evil, but ultimately makes a Heroic Sacrifice. It may be implied that the Abbey Dwellers made him morally ambiguous by treating him with suspicion since childhood, but since vermin are generally Always Chaotic Evil in the series, maybe not.
- Mr. Nutt in the Discworld novel Unseen Academicals actually is an orc and was raised by humans and Friendly Neighborhood Vampires. He's a stand-up guy, although in this case, it's questionable whether orcs actually were Always Chaotic Evil to begin with.
- In an Older Than Steam example, Loki is a Frost Giant who lives among the Asgardians and ultimately betrays them.
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Perhaps you remember Thrall the orc from Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos? He was an orc raised by humans, though.
- In the Thor film, and probably the comic book, Thor's brother Loki who is an ice giant and the son of the Ice Giant king who Odin took and adopted after the war with Jotunheim, hiding his give-away appearance and not telling him about it. The Ice giants are Always Evil and of course Loki ends up being the Big Bad of the movie.
Thrall doesn't apply because the Warcraft 3 orcs aren't always chaotic evil. They can become that, if infused with demon corruption, but they are not inherently evil.
Just thought of another one (think he might also be an Anti Anti Christ)- Hellboy, a demon raised to become an all-American hero.
In that trope, someone who is from a good group is raised by villains; this is the opposite.Worf of Star Trek The Next Generation is a Klingon (who were the villains in Star Trek The Original Series and only slowly later became allies of the Federation) raised by humans.
They tried this with a Jem Hadar baby in Deep Space 9, but the Founders had genetically engineered them to hate all non-Founders, and the attempt to raise him like Worf failed.
In Forgotten Realms, one elven mage managed to raise a good red dragon (using magic to supress his genetic evil tendencies) sadly, "a red dragon who never knew greed or malice" matched a Curse Escape Clause to a magic prison holding a trio of very powerful fiends.
The Stargate Atlantis episode where a wraith girl was raised by humans.
In The Outcast of Redwall, Veil is a ferret (one of the Always Chaotic Evil "races" in that universe) raised in the Abbey.
Discussion of Film/Thor should be under Film, not mythology, considering it's a movie adaptation of a comic book adaptation of mythology
It's also a really really moving and tragic example. It was gloriously awesome too. Oh, sorry, Gushing Aboutshows You Like is for the Sugar Wiki, I should know better. Was going to add Nutt when I saw the title...
How about Drizzt Do'Urden, a drow? Although technically an "adult" when he makes it to the surface he is adopted by Bruenor Battlehammer a dwarf and taught to be a productive member of society.
Drizzit was raised by Drow and turned good on his own, which is why he choose to leave drow culture. He also a good mentor (a ranger, I think) before he ended up with Bruenor, if I recall correctly.


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Well, Pam, I can tell you that our walnut trees are already turning and
dropping their leaves. Even the big cottonwood is slowly starting to drop
leaves here and there. I'm not sure whether it's a cue for and early
fall/winter or these things have been so moisture saturated they are
drowning in underground streams! LOL!!! Squirrels are busy, though and now
that our young walnuts are bearing, the walnuts are disappearing at an
amazing rate. (Oh for the days when the squirrels get their fill and we
still have enough left over to satiate my walnut appetite!)
Now if it would just quit raining long enough to spread a healthy blanket of
black gold mulch! I definitely want to protect all the newer plants with
roots close to the surface because of our wet summer.
I'm leery of putting roses in my basement because of spider mites and if the
humidity is kept high to ward off the spider mites, then I've had trouble
with powdery mildew. Anyone with a good greenhouse have better suggestions?
(I might try something like Kitty does with the leaves and coverings to over
winter the roses.)
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everything can handle the heat. BTW - was talking to the folks last
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migrate early and the chipmunks seem to be going into pre-winter mode
already. I told him to keep an eye on those animals - they may be
telling you that a big bad winter is fixin' to set in. Anyone else in
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know if she could over winter her miniature roses (in pots on the deck
so the deer don't eat them) in their unheated (but above freezing)
basement for the winter. I told her that sounded fine to me. But thought
I'd check w/ you more Northern gardeners to see what you do. Mine stay
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Michael Parkinson has a reputation that is positively Bradmanesque, arguably the greatest the game has ever seen, he plays with style, grace and an unfailing sense of decency. His surname is his passport, hes just about everyones point of comparison, and hes the only Yorkshire man who could teach Geoffrey Boycott a thing or two about a long innings.
ANDREW DENTON: Welcome.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I feel at home.
ANDREW DENTON: You start.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Makes a change doesn't it, to sit here and just wait for the other poor bugger to ask the question.
ANDREW DENTON: That's right. Actually, look we know you so well from your interviewing but we in Australia don't know much about where you came from. Can you tell us about what life was like in Barnsley for a young lad?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I was born in a in a mining village called Cudworth just outside Barnsley, my dad worked at Grimethorpe colliery and he was a miner and my mother was a housewife, and it was a wonderful idyllic childhood. I was the only child. I was blissfully happy, it was a mining community, it was self-sufficient, it was warm, everybody played cricket. I just look back on my childhood and think how lucky I was. I mean, I suppose by today's standards it would be regarded as deprived in many ways, you know in terms of money, but certainly not in terms of body warmth or emotion and that sort of thing. So I grew up a very, very happy child indeed. I love the mining community. I mean, I got away from it as soon as I possibly could because I didn't want to be a miner, and my father ensured that. He took me down the pit when I was about 13, and he took me down on a Sunday, and he took me into a seam of 3 foot high where men were mining coal on their bellies digging it out, and it frightened the hell out of me. And we got to the pit top and he said to me, he said what do you think? And I said not for a hundred pounds a week, which in those days was a fortune, and he said, if I ever catch you down at the pit gates I'll kick your arse all the way home, he said. And that was it, I mean all ambition had had disappeared. I never had an ambition in fact, I was, I wanted to be, I was very lucky, I wanted to be a journalist from my earliest recollection. I think it started probably with Humphrey Bogart movies you know. We used to do "hold the front page" and all, I used to copy that, and phone the local telephone exchange and she'd say "get off Michael you daft sod, I know it's you". I'd be saying "oh look put be through to City Desk". So I had that lovely childhood, marvellous parents, and this sense of knowing what I wanted to be from a very early age. So in many ways I'd been lucky all my life, cause if you do know what you want to be, gives you a head start on the rest of the world.
ANDREW DENTON: When you became a journalist you started doing the local rounds.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I did. There was a nest of pit villages which I used to cycle round, it was 25 miles I used to cycle, so I've got beautiful legs. I cycled 25 miles a day every single day.
ANDREW DENTON: He has got beautiful legs, I oiled them just before the show
MICHAEL PARKINSON: You, you, I showed you, I gave you a quick flash
ANDREW DENTON: Yes.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Just to stop you asking me to show them now. But I did that and I, and it was, it was a strange job. I mean, well what it was, it was glamorous. So what it proved to me after 4 years of doing this was that I liked it, cause it was routine and boring. And I still loved it, I still wanted to be a journalist. So I knew that I'd made the right choice. Maybe for all the wrong reasons in a sense, but I knew I was all right. So from that point on I was very single-mindedly going to be that journalist
ANDREW DENTON: And is it true that a local actor went at you with a cutlass?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He did, I fancied myself as a drama critic, and I wrote a scathing report about a production of Midsummer Night's Dream, I think it was, and the local, the man I'd singled out for particular criticism was a local antique dealer who turned up with an ancient cutlass outside the office at the newspapers wanting to do me serious damage. I left by the back door, shortly after I left Doncaster which is where this occurred.
ANDREW DENTON: He's still waiting there with the sword.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He's still a bad actor.
ANDREW DENTON: You're still a tough critic. At the age of 19 you were called up for National Service
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I was yeah.
ANDREW DENTON: That changed your view of the world didn't it?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: It did, it took me away from the mining area from Yorkshire, from my womb in a sense, and I was again very lucky. I got a commission, and God knows how, and through a series of mis-chances I got sent on the Suez operation where I became the youngest captain in the British Army, at the age of sort of 191/2 I had 3 pips on my shoulder. I mean such a masquerade you've never seen, oh what a con-man. But that put it into a different kind of area. For the first time in my life I was mixing with public school boys, I was mixing with a different kind of person than the one I'd met before. Hitherto I'd been frightened and quite chippy of those people. I'd imagined them to be different. But I realised they were different. Some of them weren't quite as bright. And it's the very interesting thing to find out, to discover that that you can be put off. In England it's certain you can be by the class structure, it's interesting to come up against it, to find out that it's not really what it seems to be. It's not that big a hurdle, if you've got an ounce of talent and an ounce of ambition. So that did me an awful lot of good. It gave me confidence and it moved me into a different area altogether. And because my job in the army was looking after the press, I was kind of an officer who went round and looked after the media. From that point on I mean, I actually moved on and upwards into a different realm of journalism till when I left.
ANDREW DENTON: Were the media embedded even in those days?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yes. Well they, it was a strange job actually. I mean, I met many fine wonderful war correspondents. We were covering a war, it was my first taste of a war, and I'd covered about 5 or 6 after that as a journalist. I never grew to like them.
ANDREW DENTON: That's good.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Well, some people do, you know. I mean, there's a kind of, there is a journalist and a very fine one too, photographers as well, who actually thrive on war, for who it actually becomes a kind of a drug, and an addiction, and I've worked with them. And they're quite dangerous people to work with in a sense because they don't see the danger that you see. I worked with a photographer called Don McCullin, a very, very fine war photographer, and I did the 6 Day War with Don McCullin, and he took a very famous picture of the storming of the Mandelbaum Gate in Jerusalem, and if you look at it, it shows a group of soldiers, it's really soldiers, flat out on the floor, doing what men do under fire, which is digging with their hands, they were digging into concrete. It doesn't work, but that's what you do when you're frightened. And the enemy, you can see the gunfire coming down from the hill above them. And then you suddenly think, where was McCullin when he took that picture? He was the only man standing up was the answer, and that's how crazy they are. But that's what they have to do to get the kind of picture to feed our appetite for that thing. But they are different. It's so different for me. I spent all my life being a foreign correspondent in the perpetual funk. I used to sleep in the bath, so I had this fantasy I might be shot through a floor board. I mean, I was in the Belgian Congo and I remember everyone downstairs getting drunk. It was like the wild west there let me tell you. And I was in this big cast iron bath in the lewd hotel, come in and shoot me, oh God don't shoot me. Oh it was awful
ANDREW DENTON: Britain's finest on tour. Yes.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Oh if they could see me now, yeah.
ANDREW DENTON: You returned to England, you're on a bus and you see the woman who's now your wife of more than 40 years, Mary. What do you think?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Oh I thought she was wonderful then and I thought dammit she's wonderful now. That was 40 odd years ago. I was going to a Council meeting in Doncaster on the top of a bus with a friend of mine, and this, I always know what she was wearing. She was wearing a red duffle coat. I always remember that. And she sat down and I thought well that's very, very attractive, I do like that. And she was taking the, she was in the same building as we were, we were covering a Council meeting and she was doing a keep fit class there, she was a teacher. And we went in afterwards and did all those silly joshing things that men do, pushing each other and all that sort of thing. And she showed a total utter distain for all of us. But eventually I bribed my friend, cause I was very shy, still I'm quite shy, it's a strange thing, but I was very shy in those days and I bribed my friend to ring her up and make a date and I turned up.
ANDREW DENTON: Is that right?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Mm.
ANDREW DENTON: He made it on your behalf?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yes
ANDREW DENTON: Or he said it was
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He made it on my behalf.
ANDREW DENTON: Really? What did he, what did he say to Mary?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He said I'm ringing on behalf of my pulicide friend who daren't ring you up, he said, who fancies you like mad he said, or something like that. But he was right about that, and I did and we got married shortly afterwards, and we've been married now for what 40 odd years.
ANDREW DENTON: When you met Mary she said you didn't have a very high opinion of yourself physically, is that right?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I've never liked my myself physically. I don't like watching myself on television. My head's too big, and I wanted to chop this bit off at the back. I wanted a flat head like Rob Mitchum, Robert Mitchum, Andrew Denton. That's who I want.
ANDREW DENTON: I've had one put in.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Right where do you get it done?
ANDREW DENTON: Oh well, actually when I was born the doctor grabbed my ankles and went bang, he's done.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I could have been a star you see. But I didn't like, and I just thought that I could improve things, and Mitchum was my great, great hero. I used to love the way he could lift the eyebrow. And I used to go to bed at night and I used to put sticking plaster on my eye, I liked that, and also I wanted a dimple like Kirk Douglas so I'd do that and I'd stick that over as well. And I used to lie in bed, I used to look like a road accident I'd sort of lie there with this tape all over me. Didn't make any difference.
ANDREW DENTON: No.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: And I was gawky and I was shy of women in particular, but none of which matters in the end.
ANDREW DENTON: Because she said she found you exciting and that there was a dangerous quality to you. What was that?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I think that maybe that it's that I've always moved on. Maybe it's that I was ambitious and I was driven in a sense and I wanted to be something, somebody, I wanted to be very good at my job. So we moved. We got married when we were very young, but we moved about 10 times in 8 years and Mary always came with me. We had children at the same time, I mean it was an extraordinary juggling trick on Mary's behalf you know. And we managed to keep the marriage together through all those changes and the biggest change of all was when eventually I went on to television and I became well-known. And that affects relationships. It affects the person who becomes famous, it affects those around him, it's a ripple in a puddle, it spreads. And it can be dangerous. And we got through all that as well.
ANDREW DENTON: It put pressure on the marriage?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: It does, and it did put pressure on the marriage and it does put pressure on a marriage. Nobody can say it doesn't. It changes you and it changes the response of people around you toward you. That's the biggest thing you have to cope with that people do change. They, if only just subtly, there's a change of emphasis. It's a strange thing. But we got through it you know. And Mary of course had a career herself. I mean Mary had the children, and used to come and pick me up when I was doing a program, an afternoon talk show in England in the 60s, late 60s, and the managing director of the company saw her waiting in the in the waiting room one day and said to me, do you mind if I screen test her? And I said no, I think she'd be marvellous. And she went on television and she did look marvellous, but more than that she was an extraordinary good interviewer, and a very tough interviewer. Mary having been a teacher, she specifically was attracted to sort of political issues about education. One of the funniest moments of my life was, I was sitting in this live show and I introduced it and said, "today Mary Parkinson will talk about the", Mrs Thatcher was the Minister for Health and she'd just brought in a ruling which had got rid of school milk, and this really upset Mary the thought that milk was being taken away from kids. And they sent along a junior minister to defend this position. And I was sitting next to another politician here called Timothy Raison. I did the program and I linked to Mary, and she climbed into this guy, and she absolutely hammered him. I mean it was wonderful to watch. I mean, she wasn't rude, she just pinned him and pinned him and pinned him. And this guy Raison, he was a member of this party, watches with great and mounting horror, and at the end of this debacle where this man was on the floor a bloodied heap, he turned to me and he said "Christ, I'd hate to be married to her!" And I said "I've never seen her before in my life actually". But she, she was marvellous.
ANDREW DENTON: Have you thought of doing a tag-team show, sort of good Parky, bad Parky, you ask a nice question and Mary goes that's bullshit.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: That's bullshit. We did work together actually on more than once and it was a very interesting time.
ANDREW DENTON: I want to talk about some of the people you've met and I'll kick off with one of the towering presences of the last hundred years. Orson Wells, this is Orson Wells on your show back in the 70s ah talking about Hollywood.
O.W: "and I suddenly thought to myself why do I look so affectionately on that town, it was because it was funny and it was gay and it was an old-fashioned circus and ah everything that we're nostalgic about, made it funny and gay when it was really happening, but really it was a brutal place. And when I take my own life out of it and see what they did to other people, I see that the story of that town is a dirty one, and it's record is bad."
ANDREW DENTON: Strong man, was he as commanding a presence off screen as he was on?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He was, he played a very important part in the development of the Parkinson show, indeed without him it might never have happened. We were given an 8 show series, some replacement, and we tried to get people. And the problem is unless you're actually an established host, the best people, the top people won't come on. We thought this one person who will actually clear the way for us, if we can get Orson Wells, the rest will follow, bill it and they will come. And we were right. I mean in those days particularly his reputation was second to none. And my producer went to Spain where he was making Don Quixote, the film he never finished, and spoke to Mr Wells and did the deal. The deal was this, apart from the money, that he would fly to England, do my interview, providing we knocked the first two rows out of a BA jet so he could lie on the floor and sleep on a mattress. We did it.
ANDREW DENTON: Mm. Wow.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: We persuaded British Airways, and for the first time ever we had a seatbelt that went all lie down on the floor, and it had to be a big one cause he was a big man, 20 odd stone.
ANDREW DENTON: that was the first jumbo that was built.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Exactly, exactly the point. And he walked on the aeroplane, and he looked at the mattress on the floor and smiled, and went and sat in the seat. It jumped the hurdle. And then he came to my room and I'd been working on this interview for like all my life, and I opened the door and he was dressed entirely in black, black sombrero, black tie, black shirt, black cloak and he swept into the room incredibly dramatic. My name's Orson Wells, he said, and you would be. And I said, er Parkinson. Yes, he said, and he looked around and he saw this scrap of paper on my desk and he said, that? I said, my questions. Do you mind if I look? I said no. And he picked them up and he turned to me and he said, how many of these shows have you done? I said, two. I've done many more he said. Will you take my advice. I said certainly and he ripped up the questions and said, let's talk, and walked away. And he sat down and he did 2 one hours that night, that were majestic.
ANDREW DENTON: Yeah.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Wonderful. And of course from that point on the doors opened, because agents said well if Orson Wells will do the show, my guy can do the show. So I owe him a great debt.
ANDREW DENTON: And for you is that also liberating that lesson that we can talk?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Absolutely. It's a lesson that it took me a long time to learn, because for many years you become a kind of slave to a, not a clipboard so much, an aid memoir is what I use now, but yeah the trick is, as you know, I mean is to try and gauge a conversation and to listen so that you can actually get away from that which you planned, if it's interesting enough. And that's the biggest lesson to learn I think, as an interviewer, as you know, as you demonstrate.
ANDREW DENTON: Thank you. You said that you'd been working on the Orson Wells all your life, I suspect another one would have been John Wayne because you are a lifetime fan of westerns, you grew up with the cinema.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yeah, I used to I used to imitate his walk on my way home from the movies. I used...
ANDREW DENTON: That's from being on the bicycle so much.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: That's right. Ha ha. And anyway, but Wayne arrived and he had just had cancer, surgery for throat cancer. But the thing you know about that generation of film stars that I admired, was the way that the professionalism, the way they attended to their job. I admire that in people an awful lot. People who take their job seriously will attend to the detail of their job. And he arrived top of my stairs, looking a million dollars. He'd even got a tux on and he'd got the bowtie on you know and he looked like a film star. And that's important you know. I mean some of these nowadays forget that. That there's a public expectation about a star. When they walk into a room, you don't want to see somebody who looks too much like you. You want them to have that glamour. I know it's counted to what a lot was happening to them, but I still think that that relates. Dame Edith Evans, the very great actress, and became a great friend of mine, crystallised that for me, she used to turn up to the show looking a million dollars. She'd get a new frock from Norman, there was a Norman Hartnell, "I got a new frock from Norman darling, and I'll wear it", and she used to send it to Mary, I mean she, Mary's twice as tall as Dame Edith was, we got these dwarf frocks in there, but she'd arrive at the BBC in a Rolls Royce. A white Rolls Royce with a fur on and dripping with, and in the frock, and she would walk straight across, ignore everybody, to a commissionaire, a one-armed commissionaire we had at the BBC, and she'd start belly-aching to him about the state of the old age pensioner. "I was down at the post office the other day, I don't know how we're actually getting managed with this old age pension", and she's dripping in jewellery. And I said to her one day, and you had to be careful with her because she was regal. I said to Dame Edith, when you do that, don't you sometimes think that maybe, maybe somebody in that ... might think well why's she saying that? "Well what do you mean?" I said well your complaining about the amount of money that old-age pensioners receive, and yet I said you're dripping in furs and diamonds and a beautiful frock from Norman, and outside is a white Rolls Royce and she looked at me as if I was stupid. She said "would you have me arrive in a Mini". And of course you wouldn't have her arrive in a Mini.
ANDREW DENTON: No. Although she was small enough.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Oh she was small enough.
ANDREW DENTON: It'd be a stretch limo.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: But that's what I mean, that sort of, you know, that it's fulfilling that expectation. Wayne did that, he wasn't a very good interview. I didn't like him very much.
ANDREW DENTON: Really?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He didn't like me very much. I had to ask him about the McCarthyism, and he didn't like that, he got quite, quite grotty about it.
ANDREW DENTON: How do you deal with it when you're not getting on with a guest, particularly somebody who you hitherto admired?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: You just do a job. You know you, you're there to do the job, and the only difference is it's not as pleasant as it might have been, basically.
ANDREW DENTON: Mm, have you ever had anyone at a point where you thought they might walk out?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yes, I've had a couple like that. I, Woody Allen I thought might gallop when I asked him about marrying his step-daughter. Ha ha, having been warned by the publicity officer that if we did that he'd pull the interview. But one had to. It's strange where you draw the line. I think people have got a private life, and I think that you should regard that as sacrosanct, and I'm not a tabloid journalist by any stretch of the imagination. On the other hand when that private life intrudes into the public persona and affects that man's career, as it did with Allen, I mean Woody Allen couldn't get arrested in America you know, and box office went down after he'd had the affair and then married his step-daughter. So there was a genuine question about his career, and that's how I approached it. Nonetheless he didn't see it that way at all. He saw it you know, as a tabloid enquiry. And he didn't like it at all. And they in fact, they tried to pull the interview when we came off air but fortunately he'd signed the document so he couldn't. But I mean, and I've had one or two people who were drunk and on drugs who I think might have walked off and not known they'd done it.
ANDREW DENTON: Ha ha.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: And I did an interview with Jack Nicholson and I'm sure if you asked him what he was doing on that day in 1975 he won't be able to tell you at all. He wouldn't be able to tell you which country he was in never mind
ANDREW DENTON: Possibly not the whole year.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: No.
ANDREW DENTON: When an interview is going astray with someone like Woody Allen, well no let me put it another way. Let me talk about someone who clearly could get arrested in America at the moment, would you want to interview Michael Jackson, right now?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: That's a very good question, and I, I think the answer is on balance, no, and I'll tell you why. I think that he's a very disturbed young man. I think that there's something forlorn and sad and vulnerable and quite sinister about him. And it's not my job to explore those darker areas, particularly in situations involving children. I think there are certain things you can joke about and certain things you can actually get tough about, but when you think about Jackson and his relationship with children, the allegations against him, it's an area frankly I don't want to go into. I really don't want to go into it, not because I'm frightened of him, because I don't think it's got any place in the kind of program I do. I really don't, I mean you would have a better chance of doing it in this program because it's less of a showbiz program than mine, your's is a straightforward interview. My program although I try to make the basic basis of it an interview, I was defined as being interviewing while tap-dancing. There has to be an element of showbiz in it for it to work in the kind of spot the BBC put it in to get a to get a figure. And I don't think Jackson fits into that at all.
ANDREW DENTON: No.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Now would I want to interview Jackson if I were doing your job, or if I was doing a say a special, I think that answer would still be no. I find something distasteful about him, but also sad that I don't want to explore.
ANDREW DENTON: Let's move back to one of your favourite areas of guests, which is comedians. I want to ask you about Peter Sellers. Is it true he would only come on if he could be a German?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yes. He'd never done any jointly, they said he'd do a one man show, he wouldn't come on with anybody else, but the deal was, he had a wonderful agent called Theo Cowan and Theo said "you know my client's mad". He said "oh, he said he'll just do a one man show, he'll be fine" he said "but he needs to have lunch with you", I said well that's fine. He said "but you haven't heard, he needs to have 5 lunches with you, one every day of the week leading up to the interview, right?" So I went to this to this restaurant in the block of flats where Peter lived in London, for 5 days I had lunch with him, which was not as pleasant as it ought to have been, because all he did was talk about the women he'd had and the women he wanted, and he was fantasising about Sofia Loren and all these people. But it was fine, I mean at the end of it I'd got the interview. It was the first show of the series and in those days we did it more or less live, live to air, 10 o'clock we record it, 11, no, 9 o'clock record, 10 o'clock to air. And on Friday night, phone call at home, 10 o'clock Theo Cowan, "I told you my client was mad", I said yes, he said "well bite on this one, he said he's not going to do the show tomorrow". I said oh great. And he said "and don't ask me why, you call he said cause I'm sick of him", and he gave me his telephone number. So I called him, and this voice, he never used the same voice on the phone, he would use a voice, the last voice he'd heard on television or whatever, so he goes "hello, hello", so I said Peter, "yeah who is this", and all this was going on. You know I said listen, I say it's Mike, I said you know you're not going to do the show. "I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it dear boy". I said Peter why can't you do it, you know come on, he said "I don't know, I'm just frightened, I'm frightened, I can't do it". I said Peter look, I've got a problem, tomorrow there's a hole in the schedule. I've got not other show to put in, you can't let me down like this. What's the real reason, there's a long pause. And he said "the real reason if you want to know", he said, "I can't walk on as myself". And I said well for Christ sake walk on as somebody else. And he said, "can I?" And he walked on as a German. He had the helmet on and he didn't take it off for 25 minutes.
ANDREW DENTON: Was he capable of answering as Peter Sellers or was he answering as some mythical?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He never used the same voice twice, he'd have the posh voice for the interview and then he'd sort of go into, and he'd start ticking me off as well, and he'd also know he was doing it, he'd start saying "lovely here Michael isn't it" ... but he was a wonderful guest and indeed the piece went out as a recording and you know all that sort of thing, it was a huge sort of bestseller and it was a huge sort of success the show itself. But he was a very strange and vulnerable man, and I don't know, there's something indefinably sad again about Peter, for all that he had this great, great comic gift. I think he was the finest comedy actor I've probably ever seen actually, and that's what he was, ah he was a great comedy actor. But he was so insecure, it was extraordinary. It was almost an illness with him.
ANDREW DENTON: Do you have situations where you, for all the research you've done, you meet a guest and they're completely different to the person you expected to meet?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I thought I'd fancy Meg Ryan more than I did.
ANDREW DENTON: And vice versa?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: And vice versa. This show is coming up here, in the next series, and you've got to watch it, it is a lesson in embarrassment, as an essay in awkwardness, it's hard to beat.
ANDREW DENTON: Why?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Well because there was a total lack of sympathy between the two of us. I mean she'd objected to a line of questioning I had about a film she made called In the Cut which I didn't much like, and she obviously did, she was in it. And she took against me. She thought I was being kind of brutal and rude and nasty, and I wasn't and she became defensive and awkward, and there's a marvellous moment where you know, when you can taste it in the audience you can taste the embarrassment, you can feel it it's become, now you owe it to them because it's good, you know. You're hemmed in by it you know, and the guests are sitting there paralysed and white knuckled like that, and I sort of was thinking of another way of getting out of this, and so I said to her you've not always been an actress have you? "No". I said you wanted to be a journalist didn't you? "Yeah". I said what sort of journalist did you want to be? "I want to be a journalist and ask questions to interviewers like you're doing". I said well if you were a journalist now and doing this interview what would you do? She said "wrap it up".
ANDREW DENTON: Oh such warmth.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Such warmth! Reaching out to me she was.
ANDREW DENTON: On the other end of the scale you were talking before about Mary's perhaps misunderstanding about how it works in television, nonetheless, how much a part of your technique is flirting?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Oh very much so. I mean oh God yes, ooh yes. I mean the problem, the problem now, I mean when I first started, I was what, 30 odd, 32 or something like, 33, or 34, and I could flirt with them all, with the best of them. You're on the road, I mean it was fine because it looked okay, but now I'm 68, I mean can you imagine, I look like a dirty old man should I start flirting away. So that's really sort of gone now. I try to be a silver-haired charmer. I'm more thinking now Maurice Chevalier more than anything else. But in those days I mean I sat opposite some really beautiful women I mean like Ingrid Bergman who I, I mean, I have been in love with her ever since I saw her in Casablanca and Shirley MacLaine and people like that, and Raquel Welch who was possibly the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.
ANDREW DENTON: Well it's funny you should mention that. We have a clip of you with Raquel Welch and I don't know what your body language is saying here, let's judge for ourselves shall we.
MP "I mean, was it a difficult thing though to be to be treated seriousl,y oh I mean, dumb thing was thinking about the casting couch business in Hollywood, did you get chased round the table.
RW: Well I don't know, that's kind of an x-rated idol
MP:Go on tell me the truth.
RW: Um not really no, there were a few times when people disappointed me a little bit but it wasn't really ...."
MICHAEL PARKINSON: It's so embarrassing watching yourself back then, those awful hairstyles we had and those terrible concord collars and all that sort of thing. But I used to do that, I probably still do and I still think now, I get sort of like that, I start this, when I get embarrassed I start doing this and I did a show with Pete and Dud, and I asked them, they had a boxer on, John Conti, and I said to John Conti, do you ever have sex before a fight. And he glowered at me, and I started going like this and Dud and Peter Cook said "do you ever have sex before an interview", and he said it's quite obvious you did. They were marvellous those two. I was just thinking today. you know, it's so sad that they've both gone, they were remarkable people. I mean Dudley particularly I did the eulogy at his funeral and the one treasured memory I had of Dudley was one of my most embarrassing moments, there was a wonderful restaurant in London in the 60's, 70's called Burkes, and he would go there at night and play for a friend of mine who owned it, and he sits there on the stage, a little sort of stage, and plays for the diners. And there was always a very fashionable crowd in, and in my drinking days, and I was a bit drunk, well more than a bit drunk, and I wandered in and he spotted me and he was a mischievous devil this guy, he really was. And I walked to the table and he started playing my theme as I walk in toward the table, and so and everyone sort of clocked this and I sat down, and he played a number and then he said, "it's not generally known" he said, "that my friend Michael Parkinson can sing", he said "he's a rather fine singer". He said, "as a matter of fact" he said "I'm getting him up here tonight to sing a song for you". Oh hooray, you know I'm feeling like this, and I'm drunk enough to take the challenge. So he said "Mike's", so I wander on stage, "Mike's going to sing Moon River". And I thought why's he chosen Moon River? Moon River! So he starts, "Mike, what's your key?" I don't know what a key is! So he gets my key, I start singing Moon River, and he actually then starts playing a key below me, so of course the result is absolutely awful. And I'm halfway through this dreadful durge, and I'm looking at him and he's smiling, that lovely way, and I look down and there sitting in front of me is Andy Williams. And I looked across at my friend, and he went (shrugs and smiles). He was a sod, he was a lovely guy, I adored him. He was in his sixties when he died. The two of them.
ANDREW DENTON: Can I take you back to the Raquel bit for a minute. After an interview like that, when you go home..
MICHAEL PARKINSON: If you go home!
ANDREW DENTON: If you go home, are things a little frosty?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: No! No, no, no. Mary knows I'm all talk. Anybody who's been married to a man for forty odd years knows he's all talk.
ANDREW DENTON: Not for forty years I hope.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: No, there's been one or two successes! Three children obviously, so something's happened. It was very pleasant. But the person I used to flirt with most of all was Shirley MacLaine. And she would, outrageous flirt. And she once stuck her finger in my belly button, there, and I'd had a button missing, and she said "We pop 'em off, and the wife sows 'em on." And I think Mary took exception to that actually!
ANDREW DENTON: Did you ever wash that belly button again?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: No, never, it's got lint in it.
ANDREW DENTON: Too much detail.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I'm sorry!
ANDREW DENTON: I've one last clip here to show, which is also from your first series on the BBC, with Tony Curtis talking about Marilyn Monroe.
MP:"You did Some Like It Hot", one of my favourite movies, that was a super film, which you starred in with Marilyn...
TC: Marilyn Monroe, Jack Lemmon, Joey Brown.
MP: How was Marilyn?
TC: She was very, very difficult.
MP: Was she?
TC: Yeah, really very difficult working.
MP: Why?
TC: Her personal madnesses were so, so destructive that they made her unhappy, and anyone that surrounded her. Consequently it cost her her life. And it had nothing to do with the picture business.
MP: You think not?
TC: Not at all.
MP: You think no matter what she'd done she'd have destroyed herself?
TC: Dear Marilyn was a fruitcake.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: He once famously said, I don't think on that interview, though I wish it had have been, that it was like kissing Hitler. Do you remember that famous remark he had when somebody said what was it was like doing a love scene with her? He said it was like kissing Hitler. They weren't too fond of her. I mean Jack Lemmon told me this marvellous story, he loved her, but he said she was tiresome. And that she wouldn't work to any known routine. Known to any other actor. And he said, you know, you'd save yourself, because you'd know with a Wilder thing you'd have to do ten takes, at least, so you'd save it, and the first two takes you wouldn't really try, you'd just go through a motion. But she didn't understand this. If Billy Wilder didn't like the first take that was it, and screw your performance cause she got it, cause he knew Wilder, Wilder knew that she would only get worse and worse and worse. Jack said they did a couple of scenes, and Billy said print it, and Jack said "but, but Billy I can't you know", he said don't worry about you they're watching her, he said and she did it fine.
ANDREW DENTON: Wow. That's hard to work with.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yeah.
ANDREW DENTON: You, in the 70s interviewed many stars of the screen like Jimmy Cagney, James Stewart, Orson Wells who we've just seen, these were luminaries, are those sort of luminaries around now?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: There are big stars around now I mean, like this like the next series I've got Clint Eastwood and Sean Connery and people like that, they're big stars, would be in any generation. I think there were there were different stars, I think that the circumstances that shaped them made them more interesting in many ways. I mean Jimmy Stewart had been a colonel in the US Air force, he had a very distinguished war record, he'd been through a war. He was part of that generation who's life had been, and career had been interrupted by a war but yet informed by it. So therefore when he came, we interviewed him, you weren't talking to an actor, you were talking to a fully rounded, fully faced human being who'd seen things that you hadn't seen, and please God never would. So it was a different, different kind of animal you were talking to. I've got a great and huge respect for that generation that came through the war, cause when you look at it, you know they did it okay and they came out of it and there wasn't any counselling for them, and there weren't any grief groups and things like that. I must say there isn't anything wrong in that, all I'm saying is that they didn't have that. And they were by and large a remarkable generation. And if you look through the world of acting, the world of sport too, people like Keith Miller, it's not a mistake that people nowadays hold them in the kind of reverence. I think modern stars are finding it very difficult to have similarly. I think they were held in a different respect. It seemed to be because of what they represented. So that was a difference, that was a significant difference. It's a matter of texture.
ANDREW DENTON: Are there any heroes still for you alive?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Oh yeah. My still alive is my boyhood hero, my very first hero was Keith Miller and he's still alive and I still see Keith and I feel it a privilege to have known him as long as I did, and again, you see he defines that generation again, I mean here was this man who played cricket, hit big 6's looked like Errol Flynn, broad-shouldered, dark hair, blue eyes, the ladies loved him, every man wanted to be him. You know then he went in the war and became a fighter pilot, you know and then had a hell of a war, and came out of it with a with a sense of perspective of about what cricket was about. I mean crick- Miller once said, and this should be, I mean as you know I also write about sports, was my passion, and I want this quote in every dressing room of every sporting event anywhere in the world, it's Miller's great quote when somebody asked him about pressure. "Pressure" he said, he said "I'll tell you what pressure is". He said "pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse", he said, "playing cricket is not". And I love that, the thought of the Messerschmitt up your backside, that is pressure and he's right. And if you went through a war like he did, and you were attacked by fighters and that sort of thing. I mean you know, what's a game of cricket count, what's it matter a day in the great scheme of things. That's why those people were important. And that's why Miller remains today my great hero because he never let me down in that sense, and I wanted to be him. Neville Cardith described him as being the Australia in Excelsis and I think that that's the best description I can think of him, and as I said every man that I'd ever met wanted to be Keith Miller.
ANDREW DENTON: Well let's look at the journey of your career, of interviewing Orson Wells for instance
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Yes.
ANDREW DENTON: To more recent times interviewing Ginger Spice...
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Ha ha.
ANDREW DENTON: Tell the truth, do you sometimes find it hard to remain interested in your guests?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: No, no, I mean I have the final say on my guests, so if there's anybody who I'm not interested in, and that's the key to it, that I don't have them on
ANDREW DENTON: Yeah.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I don't have them on. I'm interested in lots of things. The modern pop culture fascinates me inordinarily. The modern area of celebrity fascinates me. I'm not saying I approve of it, but I'm interested in it. So I've got a fairly sort of, thank God, a low boredom threshold in terms of across the board, and I actually, I'd say I mean you see it's interesting. What's interesting nowadays, is look, in a day of instant opinions, with radio hosts and newspapers and journalists who have opinions and don't report facts, everybody has a view filtered through these people about a person. For instance, let's take for an example, David Beckham, and let's take his wife, as an example. Now if you believe what you read about them, he's stupid and silly and she's even worse. And the fact of the matter is that's not true, he's a very bright nice young man, he's madly in love with his wife, he's a very talented athlete and she is besotted by him. She might not be as talented as he is, but she has a talent and an ambition. And she's again a very nice person. Now I'm fascinated by that, by the discrepancy that I discover between what I meet and I what I would have to perceive if I relied on the on the media. That's the interesting thing about today. And that's the good thing about a show like this that you can do as well, you can actually, cause they gave you time the ABC, thank God they do to do a proper interview, you can actually bring people like Rene Rivkin, I mean I saw the Rivkin interview. Now I know Rivkin of reputation, he was a much more fascinating man that you found there. I'm not saying I approved of him or not, but by God he was fascinating. And that's really what's interesting about it. That you can make your own mind up. And that's what journalism, good journalism is about.
ANDREW DENTON: You said earlier talking about what fame does to you, that it changes you, it changes the people around you, and you referred to the fact that you went through a drinking period
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I did.
ANDREW DENTON: And you in your fifties you went through a heavy drinking period, in fact, Mary basically told you to straighten up, is that not rig ht?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: She did, she did.
ANDREW DENTON: Was this a side effect of fame?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I think it's easy to say that. I don't think it was. It was something in me. I think I maybe, at that time in my life in my career I was unhappy. And I did the classic male thing, I like pubs, I've always liked pubs, I still like pubs, I still like drinking, I mean I don't drink anything like I used to. I mean at all, I can't, couldn't possibly, I'd be dead. But I enjoyed that period, but then I got depressive and I got bad-tempered and I got to a point where I didn't know what I was doing. And Mary said to me, women are very clever aren't they, they hit you, they know exactly which button to press, and she said to me, you know you're problem now darling, and I said what. And she said you're incredibly unattractive. And I thought yeah you're right, you're right.
ANDREW DENTON: Did she mean unattractive as...
MICHAEL PARKINSON: As a person, ... in every way in every single way and she was right, she was right. And you need somebody to sort of, then you look at yourself differently. You say why, why would she say that. And then you look at yourself and you see by Christ she's right. And then, if you've got any sense at all then you change your life, which I did.
ANDREW DENTON: Well we often discover most about ourself in adversity. When you were at this point in your life, what sort of man did you find yourself to be?
MICHAEL PARKINSON: I didn't like myself at all. I had a very low self regard. I didn't like myself at all. And I thought I was, at work too, I thought I was something of a bully, I was all aggressive, as you become when you've been drinking and I was, and I would , I was unhappy with my career. It was all a mess I thought, you know. Ah and then I just came out of it. Thank God I did. And that's where family's important, that's where the partner who understands you and is frank with you is important. And we came through all that and I mean, now I mean then I had the same bite at the cherry with the BBC I came back after what, ooh how many years away God knows, I was 16 years away from it, you know. I'd been working all the time, but not necessarily enjoying what I was doing. And then I came back to BBC and I've never been happier, I really haven't. And I dread the moment, and I'm 68 now, and I suppose inevitably there'll come a time when I start falling down stairs, or I need one of those stair lifts to get me down there. But until that time comes I just hope to keep on working because I enjoy it now more than I ever did before. I think when you're young, I would stand at the top of the stairs in the 70s and I'd think, ooh about an hour to go I'll be out of the studio and have a drink. And now I stand at the top of the stairs and I think this could end tomorrow, and it's a wonderful feeling cause then you really enjoy the moment, you've gone, you savour it. And that's what I'm doing at present.
ANDREW DENTON: It would be a nice full circle if your closing shows you could be brought onto the set lying in a bath.
MICHAEL PARKINSON: And disguised as a German.
ANDREW DENTON: That's right. It would be absolutely perfect.
ANDREW DENTON: You've spent most of your professional career interviewing an extraordinary range of people, in doing that, what have you learned about yourself?
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NATIONAL HARBOR, MD — Speaking to a boisterous, full-capacity crowd at the 2017 edition of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), President Donald Trump delivered all-encompassing remarks that included blistering attacks on the "fake news media," incorrect polling, anonymous sources, and "the Clinton News Network" of CNN.
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Donald Trump's administration has been slammed with at least one "fake news" story a day for the last 33 days. That, according to a new list compiled by The Washington Examiner's Paul Bedard. In Friday's edition of his "Washington Secrets" column Bedard reported "President Trump's claim that he's been the subject of false and 'fake news' stories has been mocked by an eye-rolling media, but a Secrets analysis of Trump coverage reveals that Team Trump have been hit with an average of one false, distorted or denied story a day. Starting on the eve of Inauguration Day, there have been at least 33 often widely reported false stories about the president and his team."
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If your daughter is uncomfortable with seeing male genitals while undressing in the school locker room, that's the fault of her 'intolerant' parents, said CNN anchor Chris Cuomo Thursday. After President Trump reversed an Obama order Wednesday, that forced schools to allow transgender students to use whatever bathroom and locker room they wished, the media went nuts, decrying the reversal as "cruel" discrimination. New Day anchor Chris Cuomo went on a Twitter tirade Thursday, arguing with conservatives over the bathroom order, even blaming parents for being "intolerant" because they want their daughters to change in female-only locker rooms at school.
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Men are big, mean Neanderthals who degrade women and won't even let them stand up and talk. First came the U.S. Senate President Neanderthal Mitch McConnell. And now Jameis Winston, quarterback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is the latest Neanderthal to be outed by the left-stream media.
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In June, the City of Philadelphia, in what was hailed as a "historic moment for public health," passed a deliberately misnamed 1.5-cent per ounce "soda tax." What anyone with a lick of sense could have predicted would happen is happening, and the national press is mostly ignoring the tragic results.
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White House Political Adviser Steve Bannon appeared at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday where he discussed the importance of American culture, among other things. But that didn't sit well with some of CNN's political analysts; particularly with David Gregory, who condemned Bannon on Anderson Cooper 360 claiming that "The language of the uniqueness of American culture is this kind of white nationalist language to me that harkens back to the kind of language we've heard before."
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With all the social issues plaguing our newsfeeds, abortion remains at the forefront. For the second time this season, NBC's Superstore tackles the subject. On Thursday's episode, "Wellness Fair," a false rumor is spread around the staff that fellow store employee Sandra is pregnant and is debating getting an abortion.
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After White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and chief of staff Reince Priebus offered strongly-worded statements on Thursday afternoon at CPAC condemning the media as "the opposition party" to the Trump team, Vice President Mike Pence offered an evening address to a boisterous audience. Of course, he lobbed some jabs at the media of his own.
By Nicholas Fondacaro | | February 23, 2017 | 10:21 PM EST
President Donald Trump sent ABC and CBS off the rails Thursday when he made public statements about the efficiency of this deportation operations. Trump described the program as running like a "military operation," which any normal person would understand was a figure of speech. But to ABC anchor David Muir it gave him license to fly off the handle and falsely claim, during the opening tease of World News Tonight, "Tonight, President Trump calls it 'a military operation on the border.' The immigration crackdown."
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On Thursday's CNN Newsroom, host Poppy Harlow repeatedly showed skepticism that there have been cases of men or boys taking advantage of transgender bathroom or changing room rules to commit sex crimes as she focused on liberal hysteria over the Trump administration canceling Obama administration rules mandating transgender students be allowed to use the bathroom of their choice. CNN political commentator David Swerdlick -- also of the Washington Post -- at one point even suggested that sexual assault victims and survivors should be expected to compromise with transgenders who want to be able to use women's bathrooms.
By Tom Blumer | | February 23, 2017 | 9:15 PM EST
On Tuesday morning's MSNBC Live, Louise Mensch, though she claims to be a conservative, put forth what I suspect will be the left's core economic argument if the economy improves under Donald Trump. That argument: The economy is "fantastic" already, and Trump will have had nothing to do with whatever economic improvements over what is already "fantastic" we might see.
By Curtis Houck | | February 23, 2017 | 9:12 PM EST
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Bill Barnwell embarked on an interesting project his week over at Grantland.com: Tracing the rise and fall of the NFL's top quarterback of the moment. In other words: Who was the best quarterback in the league at any given time, and how long did he hold that title?
Three players with NFC North connections made the list, which begins roughly around 1960 and thus wouldn't include the Detroit Lions' Bobby Layne. The Green Bay Packers' Bart Starr was certainly eligible here, but being a multi-year champion as well as a Hall of Fame quarterback doesn't necessarily mean he was ever the best in the league at the moment.
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Quarterback: Fran Tarkenton
Team: Minnesota Vikings
Year(s): 1975
Barnwell: "… [A] veteran player who was always very good saw everything coalesce into a great stretch toward the very end of his career. Tarkenton won his first MVP award and made his first All-Pro team this year at the age of 35."
Seifert comment: Tarkenton had a Hall of Fame career, but also played in an era with many others, from Joe Namath to Johnny Unitas to Ken Stabler. In 1975, he accounted for 27 touchdowns in 14 games in leading the Vikings to a 12-2 record.
Quarterback: Brett Favre
Team: Packers
Year(s): 1995-98
Barnwell: "Favre … [had] a four-year run with three league MVP trophies, three first-team All-Pro appearances, four Pro Bowls, two passing titles, and three passing touchdown leaderships."
Seifert comment: Some of us probably forgot that incredible run when putting his successor's current play in franchise context. Favre might only have won one Super Bowl, but he was the league's top performer in many other seasons.
Quarterback: Aaron Rodgers
Team: Packers
Year(s): 2010-present
Barnwell: "You can make a very fair case for [Tom] Brady in 2010, when he threw nine touchdowns for every interception, but Rodgers was just about as good on a per-play basis and produced one of the best playoff runs in league history, entirely on the road. He was unquestionably the league's best player in 2011 … and [in 2012] Rodgers was every bit as good as Peyton Manning, who was otherwise regarded as the best quarterback in football last year."
Comment: Based on this reckoning, the Packers have had the NFL's top quarterback in seven of the past 18 seasons. It's worth noting that Favre's run started when he was 26 and ended when he was 29. Rodgers' began when he was 27.


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DELAND - Florida Bandmasters Association, District 6, graded 130 students in 18 bands during the FBA 2012 Marching Festival on Saturday. Marching bands from Volusia and Seminole counties met at Spec Martin Stadium and brought out their best halftime performances for the judges.
Sanctioned by the Florida School Music Association, judges graded the bands on their choice of music, marching, general performance effects and auxiliary abilities. The event was hosted by DeLand High School's Marching Bulldogs.
"It's a huge event for the band and garners lots of support. The kids look forward to it each year," said DeLand High School Bandmaster Daniel Cook. Cook has been working with marching band students in DeLand for three years.
Before the event began, band members found a place in grassy areas or parking lots near the stadium. They warmed up their instruments and practiced their maneuvers. The performance is their chance to take center stage in front of a wider audience than their own high school.
"(The Marching Festival) is like the FCAT for bands," said Chelsea Williams, a freshman at Pine Ridge on her way to the practice field.
"Except more people pass," said Jackson Williamson, also a freshman at Pine Ridge.
Williams, Williamson and fellow tuba player Emily Byrne, a senior at Pine Ridge, all laughed at the FCAT remark.
On the field, each band had 15 minutes to show the judges what they're made of. Warner Christian performed with flag majorettes, a guitar player and keyboard player. During their rendition of Pirates of the Caribbean, they broke formation for a mock sword fight and blew off a canon.
"Both my daughters are band geeks," said Starr Farmer, DeLand Marching Bulldog parent. "A big part of band teaches (students) prioritizing. It gives (my daughters) a lot of appreciation for hard work." Like many band parents, Farmer helps at Friday night football games and car pools band members from practices.
Performances ran from 3 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. Marching bands were from Atlantic High School, Warner Christian, New Smyrna, Pine Ridge, Deltona, Seabreeze, Mainland, DeLand, University, Lake Howell, Oviedo, Winter Springs, Paul J. Hagerty, Lake Mary, Spruce Creek, Lyman, Seminole and Lake Brantley.
Off the field, volunteers sold t-shirts, programs and took orders for videos of the performances. Cook said the event raises roughly $12,000 for the district and the DeLand High marching band. Individual band performance digital downloads are available at fba.8va.org.
Marching Band Festival highlights best halftime shows
DELAND - Florida Bandmasters Association, District 6, graded 130 students in 18 bands during the FBA 2012 Marching Festival on Saturday. Marching bands from Volusia and Seminole counties met at Spec Martin Stadium and brought out their best halftime performances for the judges.