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I disagree wtih Michel Bitton article.
Basically whole article is "EA-Bioware made a good game, but it is player's fault".
What game corporations don't get is that making a game that is more similar in design to either single player game, co-op game or lobby game will get them millions of players paying a subcription.
WoW had this enourmous success cause it was first mmo game that creted a world, was accessible and released at a time when internet was spreading to mainstream gamer population. Prices of internet dropped, broadband connections started to be avabile in many locations in multple countries and there was boom in economy.
For many of players WoW was first mmoprg and it is always special AND players tend to be able to go on painful compromises with their first mmorpg.
Now WoW is just like train that was going at extremly high-speed. It is slowing down but it take a long time for it to actually stop.
NO mmoprg in future will be able to capture so big PAYING population. Becasue mmorpg playerbse when playing another mmorpg do NOT want to go on compromises anymore like with their first mmorpg.
That's why aiming for millions of players paying sub in one game in NA & EU is just crazy. Won't happen. It might happen in mmofps or mmorts game in future first one that will provide good enough really unique experience. Planetside 2 has this potential (Trion one and Dust won't be able to compete they are too much like lobby instances games, too much like CoD, BF3 or TF2 to compete with P2 unique experience).
Anyway - failure of Swtor was NOT because of business model but because it was and is BAD game. That's so simple.
Schadenfreude accusation - another proof why some of media and devs don't get why there is so much hate.
Most "I told you so" people are not content because they want other people suffer or 'watch the world burn', but because community is saying same thing for 5 years alrady. "Don't follow variation of one gameplay model only" , "don't try to capture every single gamer for catering for common lowest denominator", "be relistic".
Instead game corporations try to repeat WoW success with using same template with bit diffrent, instead ACKOWEDGLING that mmorpg playerbase IS FRAGMENTED.
Trying to unite hordes of players under one game roof and competing for same crowd will not work long-term anymore.
Try to USE playerbase fragmetation for your own benefit.
Cut down a bit on ridiculous budgets and provide diffrent games to diffrent niches and gain long-term players or forget about mmorpg and try to catch huge audiences by making other non rpg mmos or non mmo multiplayer games or even single player games.
Meh who I am talking to...
Propably I will just hear that I am bitter, old or it is my fault that most modern mmorpg's cannot capture big amount of players for long-time.
Close your ears and kept singing lalalala more with articles like this.
The blame for TOR's less-than-successful performance was totally BioWare's the minute they got into bed with EA.
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free to play will not rescue sw:tor because its not that people are afraid of paying something for a good game its because people don't pay for a boring game. don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people out there who love sw:tor and the game like it is now, but the gamedesign of sw:tor is mostly like any other mmo(rp)g we saw in the aftermath of a - back at the beginning in 2004/05 - very average and low on features but successful world of warcraft. for the same reason the elder scroll online gets no credit ('just another wow-clone' to quote the opinion of the majority) and gw2 and archeage gets hyped (maybe overhyped).
if you substract gear grinding endgame features like raids, dailies and pvp (and its always the same) from games like world of warcraft, warhammer, aion, rift etc. what is left? yes, only a month or two playtime for a casual gamer like me with 2hr average playtime a day. these features, once motivation enough for those who never were in this before, are growing old, boring and meaningless.
sw:tor showed us that the time for 'the same old concept' we experienced in mostly any mmo(rp)g in the last decade is over, especially the endless repetitive gear and questgrinding in pve aswell in pvp. and i belive that sw:tor will soon show us something else: f2p isn't the holy grail and the solution for everything publishers and developers did wrong with the design of their product.
in my opinion the industry does have to realize that there aren't many 'first timers in mmogs' left they can attract to a concept that is boring to 75% of the existing mmog playing crowd. the industry now have to satisfy the needs of players who are into mmogs for years. and the first game which is able to give us all the great features we like in mmogs and add new features for a longterm motivation to it will win the jackpot.
p.s.: dear ea/bioware employees, i really advise you not to have a booth on the gamescom in cologne. either you will be avoided like a leper colony or your booth will be filled with angry and dissapointed customers.
I have to totally disagree with Mike on this one, it is not the players fault, It is not the fault of the folks saying I told you so.
If ea/bioware made a great quality game, we would not be where we are currently at.
The problem was once you finished your main characters story arc, you were finished. After you do about 4 of them you were sick. Unfortunately for us they did not make a quality game. It was fun for the first couple of alts after that it became boring repetition.
For all those saying free to play is going to save the game. I would not be to sure about that either. Just because it worked for Turbine and semi worked for SOE does not mean it will work Ea/Bioware.
You have to make a fun game that folks want to play in order to hang onto those folks. So that is yet to be seen. I think player retention will be the huge issue, and I think we might be in for another I told you so moment later. After all everybody said hey if we merge up the servers that will fix the game, well guess what that did not fix anything.
Originally posted by erictlewis
If ea/bioware made a great quality game, we would not be where we are currently at. The problem was once you finished your main characters story arc, you were finished.
Except that I think they did make a great quality game.
The problem with that is this "other sentence" that is spot on.
Considering I only tried SWToR out of curiosity (love the star wars movies [well, the original first two] I would still be playing SWToR if it wasn't for your second sentence.
I put all my criticisms of the game in that little survey they sent out.
I loved all the story stuff. Including the story stuff in the regular quests. Problem was that there wasn't much else to do after that.
Besides the bad implementation, lot of bugs, etc they failed miserably to keep the game updated, look at trion and rift.
Still love the IP and maybe in a few year we can have a good mmo with it.
SWTOR's failure lies in the fact that it is a linear single player game with MMO elements with the (wrong) intent to retain players by providing souped up alts. When a player plays through content once, they rarely want to play through the exact same content a second time, even with a alledgedly different character AND pay $15/month for it. If Bioware didn't pour all their cash into VO on every little thing and instead put $$ into creating a broader range of content that included functional exploration, alternative paths (the dialogues never actually offered alternative paths, only alternative replies), action combat similar to DCUO or Tera, and plain did not actively try to make an even more linear WoW with a Star Wars skin, they might have reached their $$ and retention goals. Instead, EA and Bioware put their faith in the bozos that initially broke SWG (all the Bio execs at Austin were from the early days of SWG & the NGE) and expected a hit from them. Way to look at previous dev history, Bio.
The industry's big problem is that they never learn from their mistakes. It incestuaously retains all the insane egomaniacs in controlling positions and lets them - even celebrates them - continue to make the same crap and mistakes over and over again, all the while expecting different results after each try. This is the true definiton of insanity. Case-in-point: The media is all happy that Brad McQuaid is back at SOE working on Vanguard, even though it's common knowledge that Brad screwed so many devs at Sigil that he created a whole new strain of virtual VD, in addition to overspending and releasing a completly broken and (at the time) unplayable game. It won't be long before he's put back into a command position (if he's not already) and history will start to repeat itself. We'll see it in any and all failing MMOs, actually. It's like a disease in the industry - short term memory failure.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
Originally posted by lizardbones
I had to look up schadenfreude. It is a pretty apt description for a lot of posts on these forums. It's not enough to find fault in a game, but people seem to need to find fault in the people who may like a game.
Schadenfreudian slips abound, here...
You can reason it out however you want but this game going f2p in less than a year is a pretty big indication the game is hemorrhaging subs. As for War, it hasn't gone f2p because by the time they realized it was a valid pay model it was too late for the game. Not worth the cost for the transition. Same reason you'll never see DAOC or UO go this route.
Smart move on their part. Still, considering the ip and the company behind the game this is rather amazing and frankly from a gaming perspective a rather historical moment. This has to have the people making "TESO" rethinking some things.
Unfortunately, I don't think this is going to increase anything from a content perspective. After the content they had already in the pipeline is released this game is going to flounder in that regard.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
This is a nice article and all, but one simple truth remains:
If the game were doing so well, surely they wouldn't be moving into free-to-play territory.
No paid service makes such a drastic move unless there's a problem.
Let's be honest here, EA and Bioware took a shot and missed. Notice I didn't say 'fail'. I count a MMO as failed when all the servers shut down. But now they're having to shift into retention and recovery mode, and I think to many, who look at it logically, with such an IP this situation should never have happened so early.
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I liked this game when I played it, but I decided that I did not want to pay a sub for any game, because there are just too many good FTP titles out there now. If this game had come out in the early EQ days when it was sub or don't play any games, it probably would have been very successful. I for one will go right back to playing the game now that it's FTP. It's a lot of fun particularly going thru the storylines, and I am not much of an end game player anyhow. I don't think any game is worth a sub any more mainly because there are just too many FTP titles out there that are actually fun.
I suspect SW:TOR converting to F2P will have a much larger impact on the industry than GW2's B2P.
Seeing a AAA game (with a major IP) that was squarely aimed at the monthly sub model "failing" will do far more to industry attitudes than Anet's second B2P game.
SW:TOR has most likely delivered the deathblow to subscription games. From here on, every AAA MMO will launch with a Cash Shop built-in.
The problem with MMOs? It's the people who play them. Why? Well..
Every time a publisher/developer looks at creating an MMO they are investing millions of dollars. They can either "play it safe" which gets the "community" playing enough to make a profit or they can try something different.
Something different turns out to be a death knell with MMOs because as much as players want something different when it comes out everyone froams at the mouth saying "WHY IS THIS NOT LIKE WOW??"
With the amount of crazy, insane MMO players I'm not surprised they don't want to take a risk. Either they play it safe and make a small profit or take a chance.. possibly losing their shirts and having personal death threats by people in the community.
If you want a thankless job it's an MMO developer. Until the community stops scorning any game that tries to be different than nothing will be different.
This means if you don't like a game move on. Don't spend hours trolling a forum for the game saying how it kills puppies and discouring any other sane person who wanders by against trying it because you have a vendetta against it.
I like TOR and hope to contiune playing it. F2p or not is not even an issue to me. What concerns me the most is wether or not the game will continue to add new content at a faster pace, as promised, and whether or not the content is quality. I have had fun playing the game and think it is often what you make of it. Those that suggest that there is not a social element in the game are obviously not putting forth the effort to connect with people. The in-game social community I have surrounded myself with is thriving. Granted, I had to try a few guilds and find the right fit, but when isn't that the case? I played WOW for a year with very little social interaction simply because I didn't try. As long as the game follows through with its promis to add new quality content regularly, I'll be happy. If that comes to a halt, I will go find a new game. l concede that the game really needs to make an effort to get creative at this point and make sure they don't continue to simply rehash what is already there. I'm not bored with the game yet, but I definitely am not as enthusiastic as I once was. You would think that these people would want to make an extremely strong effort to protect their investment. Maybe it is time to bring some fresh talent in with some ideas about what can be done to significantly improve the game. I'm still rooting for it. I want this game to succeed. But I totally unerstand why some are discouraged with it at this point.
Originally posted by MikeBThis news, some would believe, is clear proof that Star Wars: The Old Republic has been an abject failure, validating the various criticisms that have been leveled at the game for some time now.I disagree wholeheartedly.
EA calls it a "miss". Can't get any clearer than that I think. They expected multiple millions of customers at this point in time, they didn't get them, they missed their target by a wide margin.
Originally posted by MikeBwhat is clearly a strong trend away from subscription based MMOs
I always find things like this puzzling.
Where is this trend that you say EA missed so badly? Has there ever been a AAA MMORPG that launched as F2P title? I cannot remember a single title doing so. There are exactly zero examples for this trend. To this day we don't even have an example for a AAA MMORPG launching as B2P title, GW2 will be the first one, and whether that title will do better financially and will retain players better is still an unkown.
There is however a trend that games change their model from P2P to F2P when their subscribers dwindle, better performing games (like LotRO?) do this after many months, games that miss their target do it rather soon. In the case of SWTOR it is rather soon.
Originally posted by MikeBThe ideal result is that the cash shop (along with those who choose to subscribe) brings in enough revenue to justify more frequent and, more importantly, interesting content for players to consume. Dungeons & Dragons Online just received its first expansion in six years of service
Let's hope for the people that still enjoy SWTOR that it won't take EA Bioware six years as well, maybe the D&D example wasn't the best one in this case. Sorry, Mike.
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If Lucas Arts didn't have a vested interest in this game succeeding, especially since they shut down Galaxies for this game (regardless of what they want to claim), SWTOR would still be chugging along the same Tracks of Doom that Warhammer and DAOC are stuck on.
LA twisted EA's arm, plain and simple. EA would never have gone this route, voluntarily. They have a BoD that is solely focused on the success of their single player title sales, they could care less about their MMO products. Just look at the reasons they voted to keep the current EA CEO, for example.
EA doesn't know how to do persistent world games. I'm glad to see that LA turned their thinking around, because once SWTOR shows some success with the new model, maybe EA will see opportunities in DAOC and WAR and decide to change those games over to the F2P model as well.
While I agree with the sentiment that it's "about time", I don't agree that the dip in subs is due to a design flaw. The subs dipped because people ran out of interesting things to do, because the existing content was a mix of shallow and easy, and that combined with the cost that went into making the game is the reason for F2P. It's not about $15 a month, players WILL spend $15 a month for a game they find worthwhile. It's a fairly nominal fee for something you're getting tons of joy out of. A game like EVE is still going strong with subs, as is WoW, Rift, AO, FF11, and so on.
Yes, some of those games run on smaller communities, but it's also true that needed a lot less time to make their money back and start turning a profit. It's also true that they offered more than simply rehashing WoW mechanics.
Personally, I have no love lost for P2P. But you'd be blind to think the only reason SWTOR is going F2P is because gamers are cheap.
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Originally posted by MikeB what is clearly a strong trend away from subscription based MMOs
I always find things like this puzzling.
Where is this trend that you say EA missed so badly? Has there ever been a AAA MMORPG that launched as F2P title? I cannot remember a single title doing so. There are exactly zero examples for this trend. To this day we don't even have an example for a AAA MMORPG launching as B2P title, GW2 will be the first one, and whether that title will do better financially and will retain players better is still an unkown.
There is however a trend that games change their model from P2P to F2P when their subscribers dwindle, better performing games (like LotRO?) do this after many months, games that miss their target do it rather soon. In the case of SWTOR it is rather soon.
Whether a title launches as F2P or not is irrelevant. The trend is not launching as F2P, that's too shallow a target to narrow in on. The trend is that games are becoming F2P, market-wide, if they're not already avoiding the P2P mold entirely through some other means (B2P). In the future, several AAAs WILL be launching as F2P, both Marvel Heroes and NWO already stating they will and Arch Age and Blade & Soul reportedly "considering it". You'd have to be living under a rock to not see that this is the market norm, now.
Do a search for P2P MMOs and, where 5 years ago it would have been the majority, today it's just a handful. Most, at the very least, have gone "Freemium"
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SWTOR failed . It wanted to be 'the' mmo with the best storyline and story telling experience and it FAILED . What we got is a mmo feeling like a single player rpg game.
The Secret World totaly blows SWTOR out of the water when it comes to story telling . The immersion of The secret world is incredible unlike SWTOR while still feeling like a mmorpg.
In TSW i was focused on every cut scene because It MADE me focus by giving hints on where to find the quest objective
Star Wars: The Old Republic didn't fail because it wanted to be a subscription-based MMO. The Old Republic didn't fail because of missing some opportunity to go F2P at the start.
The game failed because Bioware/EA was far too busy trying to play catch-up that they completely and utterly failed to provide any substantial content for the end-game. Instead they wasted several months trying to fix something that couldn't be fixed, and just in general chase their own tails.
And with the move to F2P and its limits, it is obvious they still don't get it. Those operations aren't going to be worth $15 a month for any period of time. By forcing the community to be split between free players and subscribers for that one instance, its just going to hurt the game. Heck, limited access would of been a far better choice then outright blocking it.
Maybe that's just a symptom of my hatred for those games that try to claim they are free to play, yet lock chunks of actual content behind an enforced pay-wall though. I don't like the idea of downloading games labeled "Free 2 play", only to find that entire zones are locked, that if I want to participate in X I gotta pay Y amounts of cash. Its why I've always preferred the "Buy it once" model. Or if you're going to have us pay subs only for a game, make sure its actually worth the price (like Trion has been trying to do with Rift).
I really wanted a KotOR game but I thought I would still like it as an mmo. I made it to 50 on my first character and I thought the game was great UNTIL I hit 50 and was done with my story. After that it went down hill fast for me.
I wish they had included the option to have your companions in a group like KotOR ;(. I guess I will just have to keep hoping we get another KotOR game in the future ;(.


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tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post6181164318895567187..comments2017-01-23T13:31:18.263-06:00Comments on Chicago Pizza Club: Barraco's [Meeting #64; Meeting #17 revisited]Petey Pizzahttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-38234406325009801752008-09-09T17:35:00.000-05:002008-09-09T17:35:00.000-05:00Since we've all given our profiles and started wri...Since we've all given our profiles and started writing much more elaborate comments, Petey has retired from reviewing and only gives the scores.

If ML has a problem, I'm not hiding. She can bring it whenever she wants.Marla Collins' Husbandhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-79734164110833293442008-09-09T14:58:00.000-05:002008-09-09T14:58:00.000-05:00First of all, hats off to El Presidente for sugges...First of all, hats off to El Presidente for suggesting such a phenomenal pizza place on the fly. Secondly, I thought that 'Petey's' review was supposed to be an unbiased recollection of the meeting's events. I feel that 'Petey's' post, although accurate in several respects, had too much of a negative overtone. Turns out I'm not the only one that noticed the negative 'tude. I recently met a big CPC fan at the Windy City Wine Festival, we'll call her ML, that gave me crap for all of the biased comments on such a wonderful place. I told ML I thought Barraco's was awesome and that the review was written by a crotchety old man that was sore about his pizza place being closed on a Tuesday. Since ML is a true southsider, she will probably hunt MCH down and beat him to a pulp.

Anywho, Barraco's was fantastic. The thin crust was crisp without being burnt. I'm not sure I've ever had Sicilian pizza before, but I can't wait to have it again. The crust was very bread-like and perfectly chewy. Same with the deep and stuffed crusts, and I loved every minute of it. Well, except for eating the sausage pizza. It was a bit over-fennelly for my liking. Every other topping was plentiful and delicious. Although I love garlic and was ecstatic at the opportunity to have it as the only topping on a thin crust, I was absolutely blown away by the spinach and ricotta pizza (and I'm not usually a big spinach fan). I thought it was a fabulous combination.

I really liked Barraco's and can't wait to hit it up again (especially if ever someone tries to call a CPC meeting at a southside pizzeria that's closed on a Tuesday). I would eat Barraco's regularly, and therefore give it a solid 8.0/10. Too bad its so far away:(Kellyhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-53189103259809062882008-09-06T14:45:00.000-05:002008-09-06T14:45:00.000-05:00I was excited to head back to Barraco's becaus...I was excited to head back to Barraco's because it was the site of my first CPC meeting 4 years ago, and I've not since met the match of that Spinach and Ricotta stuffed pizza. It was even better than I remembered it. The spinach is lovely and fresh, and the generous amounts of ricotta allow for a less dense version of this pie than what you find most other places. This is one of the few places where I'm actually excited to order stuffed pizza. I also really enjoyed the thin crust. No, it's not as good as Vito & Nick's, but I liked the breadier ways of the crust. And I happen to love garlic as the lone topping on thin crust pizza, including these. I agree with comments above that the thin dice of the green peppers allowed for better integration of this topping than the big chunks you find at most places. I usually avoid green peppers but would get it again in this style. The deep dish was okay. I liked the Sicilian, though the beef was not as flavorful as I expected. And I guess it was not typical insofar as it was round and the crust was quite thin in the center, as it approached the outer edges it got the thickness and texture usually associated with Sicilian. I should add I don't usually care for the thick breadiness and sparse sauce/toppings of Sicilian, so the variation made this pizza more enjoyable than the norm. Overall, it was all pretty good. The thin was not the best but it beats out most places, and the spinach & ricotta will take me back there again. I give Barraco's 7.8.kate-d.http://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-56804574754714955052008-09-03T18:28:00.000-05:002008-09-03T18:28:00.000-05:00I was surprised to enjoy the deep dish and the stu...I was surprised to enjoy the deep dish and the stuffed as much as I did...they were definitely unorthodox versions of their types, as Dan mentioned. The sausage was just OK, the texture of the sauce (very chunky tomatoes) was better than the taste, though. I normally don't like Sicilian pizzas, because they're too dense and starchy, but this "thin sicilian" was less of a mouthful. The thin and especially the extra thin pizzas were a little bland, though that may have been because of poor strategic ordering (*just* garlic?). This place was reasonable, but clearly not good enough to be worth a trip this far south. I give it a 6.rblitshttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-88520843981933180292008-08-30T13:40:00.000-05:002008-08-30T13:40:00.000-05:00You guys should try Fox's next time you go out to ...You guys should try Fox's next time you go out to Beverly/South Side. It is on 99th and Western. Very good thin crust sausage firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-52377766631444604402008-08-28T06:31:00.000-05:002008-08-28T06:31:00.000-05:00I thought the best pizza was the garlic and cheese...I thought the best pizza was the garlic and cheese thin crust. I could have eaten about 20 of those little slices instead of the 2 I had. The crust was not soggy at all and the aroma was a perfect combo of cheese sauce and garlic. I was not a fan of the Sicilian as I prefer my roast bee in a bun not on my pizza. The ricota and spinach was quite good though a bit light on the sauce. The deep dish sausage smelled great but the sausage did not live up to its aroma. Overall a good place a decent 7/10.smantishttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-55126983762744808762008-08-27T12:08:00.000-05:002008-08-27T12:08:00.000-05:00I forgot to leave add a score. I thought the pizza...I forgot to leave add a score. I thought the pizza was fine overall - not good, not bad. If I wanted thin crust on the far south side, I would never go here unless Vito & Nick's burned down. There are innumerable better deep dish options. The abundance of ricotta and fresh spinach made the stuffed pizza very enjoyable, and the crust on the Sicilian was different from any pizza I've had and was quite good.

I'd give the Sicilian a 7.5 (higher if the meat had had flavor), the thin crust a 5 and the others somewhere in between. Overall, Baracco's fits the definition of a 6.Marla Collins' Husbandhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-9105484586596669582008-08-27T12:01:00.000-05:002008-08-27T12:01:00.000-05:00So far as a pizza club member I've been to two "ro...So far as a pizza club member I've been to two "road trip" meetings (places that are farther than 5 miles from my apartment): Burt's and La Villa. The former is a place that I'd like to go to again. The later made me want to kick myself as we passed a number of better places on the ride home.

Barraco's was my third "road trip" meeting, and while I probably won't make a special trip down there, it's somewhere that I'd suggest if I was in the area.

I liked the thin crust pepper/onion and the stuffed ricotta cheese/spinach pizzas the best. As Dan stated, the diced peppers worked really well and none of the ingredients overwhelmed the whole thing. The stuffed ricotta/spinach pizza was also very good. There was a nice, salty taste of the ricotta in almost every bite and, even though there was a ton of cheese, it never felt like too much. Also, I enjoyed the crust on that pizza. I didn't get to try the Sicilian pizza, although it seems like I should have. I was pretty full by the time it came out as I filled up on the bread beforehand, which, it's only fair to mention, was really good.

All in all, I can't name any specific faults for Barraco's. It seems like a dependable, better than average pizza. Still, nothing struck me as outstanding, so I'll give it a email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-85303182553209334972008-08-27T11:55:00.000-05:002008-08-27T11:55:00.000-05:00These were all pretty good pizzas, wouldn't sa...These were all pretty good pizzas, wouldn't say that any of them were exceptional though. The stuffed with spinache and ricotta chesse was pretty tasty, but I got to it late and it had kinda cooled by then, the pan pizza with sausage was nothing exceptional. I was a little let down by the Sicilian pizza, nothing like any other Sicilian crust I'd had before and I thought the beef was just a little bland, though I did appreciate the quantity. My two favorites were the two thin crusts, I probably enjoyed the thinner crust with garlic a little more, the green pepper and onions regular thin crust was okay, but I could've done without the green peppers, I just don't think they belong on a pizza... hence my dislike of the standard "special" pizza that most restaurants offer. The decor of the restaurant was real nice, and a nice large photograph of the Chairman of the Board kept vigil over us as we ate, and I always appreciate the knowing glance of Frank Sinatra as I eat... all in all though, I enjoyed the pizza but I didn't think it was anything above and beyond. The style thin crust was unlike anything I'd had before (very corn-mealy) and I liked it, it's just very far from being as good as the thin crust at Vito & Nicks... so in the end, I give this Barraco's a 6.5Andrewhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-22317864.post-18615894706453185692008-08-27T10:38:00.000-05:002008-08-27T10:38:00.000-05:00This is a place I was introduced to many years ago...This is a place I was introduced to many years ago by the infamous Karl Max Grinnell of Chicago via Seattle. In one of our excursions from The Enclave (Hyde Park), he suggested we go out for a nice Italian meal and chauffeured a group of us in his small hatchback to this establishment for some great food and underage drinking.

When I formed CPC, one of the first places the original incarnation visited was Barraco's. Looking now at my trusty notebook, it was actually meeting #17. Back then I noted that the stuffed pizza really impressed me with their ricotta and basil mixed in with the spinach. I also complained a bit that the deep dish, despite being more than passable, had a bland tasting sausage with great aromatics and too much crust.

I mention this because it shows that this pizzeria has been remarkably consistent. I still feel pretty much the same about these pizzas as I did back then. The stuffed was superior to the deep-dish and the thin pizzas had a nice tart sauce with a semi-crunchy crust. Like Dan, I think my favorite of the night was the Sicilian Pizza. I don't at all care about the semantic discussion of what is and isn't a Sicilian pizza because I've never actually been in Sicily to compare. But I can say that I loved the crust on this pizza. It was almost like a great piece of bread. Not Italian bread, which can have too much mass, but a nice, light French loaf. The beef was tender and plentiful, but it needed any kind of seasoning to it. Once I added some red pepper, it really took off, but I shouldn't have to finish the job of seasoning the meat for them.

We ordered 5 styles of pizza and they were all average or above at worst. When I look back at the night I really only think of the stuffed and Sicilian pies though and my score is weighted to reflect them. I enjoyed both thin crusts pizza, felt the deep-dish was the worst of the bunch, and thought the stuffed and Sicilian were very, very good. Too bad we ordered the deep-dish or my score would be higher. I would definitely eat the other styles regularly if I were a local.

My score for Barraco's is 8.0El Presidentehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com


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If you're not generating leads – as in: a lot of leads – from your company's blog, you're missing out on what is perhaps not only your best opportunity to convert organic Web traffic into actionable, measurable sales inquiries, but also the best way to actually show real ROI from your social media investment. Here are 10 proven ways to generate more leads from your blog. No problem.
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Last month, I wrote about 2 challenges to keyword collaboration. Among other things, I argued for the importance of developing a corporate keyword database for digital marketers. Without keyword collaboration, your digital assets will compete for the limited time and attention of your audience. Keyword collaboration isn't just important for digital marketing.
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Since you're reading this blog post, you probably know the importance of content marketing, and getting the right content to the right person at exactly the right time. Agency leaders agree. Businesses and agencies of all types and sizes are investing in content marketing. Social Media Tools – participation in channels like LinkedIn, Twitter, etc. 2. Invest. Language.
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Twitter for B2B Marketing
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Every Thursday night Jeremy Victor and a group of B2B marketers hold a B2B Twitter Chat session. In a later posts we will share with you our own experiences using Twitter for marketing Mi6 and some of our clients (successes AND failures). Twitter for B2B Marketing. Here is the full transcript which shows you who participated with links to their Twitter profiles. Q1: What are the best and/or worst reasons to make Twitter part of a B2B marketing plan? Best reason to incorporate Twitter into B2B: to Shut Up (about "you ) and Listen instead. People.
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How Do You Start Over After Building a Successful Blog?
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How Twitter Amplifies a Customer Attack
Paul Gillin
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Upgrade your lame agency website into your social media brand HQ
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B2B Marketing Trends for 2016
and Twitter followers. Two keywords here: service and enablement. J-P De Clerck, Founder, i-Scoop [link] B2B Marketing Trends for 2016 35 Manage the Customer Experience There you have it: guidance on where successful B2B marketers will be focusing their efforts in content marketing, social. In his more than 20 years of b2b marketing experience on both the corporate and agency.
Optify Lets Agencies Provide Small Business with Marketing Automation, Distributed Marketing, and Sales Enablement
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4 Content Strategies for B2B Corporate Blogging
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About | Advertise | Submissions | Write for Us CrowdsourcedFRD Home Advertising Branding Content Marketing Lead Gen SEO-SEM Social Media More Strategy Design PR eBooks Educational Facebook Guest Posts Twitter 5 Best Practices for B2B Corporate Blogging October 25th, 2010 | By Roy Russo Standing out from the millions of blogs online can be a difficult task for marketers.
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1st Cologne-TwenteWorkshop on Graphs and Combinatorial Optimization (CTW2001)
Topics are: graph theory and discrete algorithms (both deterministic and random) and their applications in operations research and computer science. Institute of Mathematics, Center of Applied Computer Science, University of Cologne; 6--8 June 2001.
4th Cracow Conference on Graph Theory
Czorsztyn, Poland; 16--20 September 2002.
Analysis on Graphs and its Applications
Research programme at the Isaac Newton Institute, Cambridge, UK; 8 January - 29 June 2007.
Brazilian Symposium on Graphs, Algorithms and Combinatorics
Fortaleza, Ceará State, Brazil; 17--19 March 2001.
Colourings, Independence and Domination
11th Workshop on Graph Theory. Karpacz, Poland; 18--23 September 2005.
DIMACS Connect Institute (DCI 2001)
Graph Theory and its Applications to Problems of Society. DIMACS Center, Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ, USA; 9 July -- 3 August 2001.
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Some abstracts available. Minneapolis. 12--15 June 2000.
Extremal Graph Theory
A workshop dedicated to the 60th birthday of Miklós Simonovits. Budapest and Lake Balaton, Hungary; 16--20 and 23--27 June 2003.
Graph Drawing 2000
The symposium is a forum for researchers and practitioners working on all aspects of graph visualization and representation. The range of topics considered in graph drawing includes graph algorithms, graph theory, geometry, topology, visual languages, visual perception, information visualization, computer-human interaction, and graphic design. Colonial Williamsburg (Virginia, USA) 20--23 September 2000.
Graph Drawing 2001
Vienna, Austria; 23--26 September 2001.
Graph Theory Day 42
DIMACS Center, Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ, USA; 10 November 2001.
Graph Theory of Brian Alspach
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada; 25--29 May 2003.
Graphs and Patterns in Mathematics and Theoretical Physics
A conference to celebrate Dennis Sullivan's 60th birthday. Stony Brook, New York; 14--21 June 2001.
7th International Colloquium on Graph Theory. Hyères, France; 12--16 September 2005.
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The 41st Midwest Graph Theory Conference. Middle Tennessee State University, Murfreesboro, TN, USA; 13--14 September 2005.
Midwest Graph Theory Conference. Ohio State University Marion Campus, OH,USA; 28--29 April 2006.
The Thirty-Fifth Midwestern Graph Theory Conference. Illinois State University, Normal, Illinois, USA; 27--28 September 2002.
The Perfect Graph Conjecture
AIM Research Conference Center (ARCC) workshop. American Institute of Mathematics, Palo Alto, CA, USA; 29 October -- 2 November 2002.
Random Graphs and Large-Scale Real-World Networks
Research program at the Institute for Mathematical Sciences, National University of Singapore; 1 May -- 30 June 2006.
29th Workshop on Graph Theoretic Concepts in Computer Science. Elspeet, the Netherlands; 19--21 June 2003.
31st International Workshop on Graph-Theoretic Concepts in Computer Science. Metz, France; 23--25 June 2005.
Workshop and Conference on Hypergraphs
(Gyula O.H. Katona is 60) June 4-17, 2001 and June 7-9, 2001, Rényi Institute, Budapest, Hungary.
Workshop on Geometric Graph Theory
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Right click - Copy Image is partially broken on nightly, now instead of copying image address it copies image by itself. Firefox doesn't have problem, because have separate menu options Copy Image and Copy Image Location.
Last "good" nightly: 2012-05-02-00-30-23-comm-central-trunk
First "bad" nightly: 2012-05-03-00-30-35-comm-central-trunk
Regression from Bug 749527?
So probably the easiest way for you to get what you want is to either:
1) Add a second menu item like Firefox has
2) If you really do want all formats on the clipboard then add a new command for:
PRInt32 copyFlags = nsIContentViewerEdit::COPY_IMAGE_ALL;
Here is similar code to what you would need to do that (Except you'd use it for COPY_IMAGE_ALL):
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This patch works for me. In WordPerfect Edit->Paste Special I get a choice of
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Screenshot showing all the formats available when copying an image.
This code snippet works in windows with a <browser> element:
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Unfortunately I don't know if we can rely on that.
> Unfortunately I don't know if we can rely on that.
Yeah lets go with your current patch. Please push stat!
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Regression caused by (bug #): 749527
User impact if declined: Unable to copy image location
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And that's what I have always gone by but it seems to contradict (b) (7.11) Fielder Right of Way.
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So if a base coach or whoever is attempting to clear the area and they still get in the way is it INT? I see this happen occasionally in youth ball where it's a pop up by either the 1st or 3rd base coach and they are trying to get out of the way but don't do a very good job of it. Still INT?
Very interesting... So I guess it comes down to who's defining "hesitates, interrupts, suspends or unmoving" Thanks.
Calm down now... If you don't want to continue this discussion that's fine. No worries. I'm just trying understand this. He comes set. He starts his delivery, he pauses at the top of his leg lift, but he hasn't really stopped (or interrupted anything) since some part of his body is still slightly moving, and then he continues on with his pitch. No balk. Good thing I'm not out there. Thanks for tolerating my questions. ;-)
So... getting back to the video. When he lifts that leg and "pauses / hesitates / whatever it's called", why wouldn't this constitute and "interruption"? To my obviously untrained eye, it just looks like he starts, then "pauses", then continues. Thanks
OK... let's just say for arguments sake that a pitcher actually came to a complete stop while lifting his leg with a runner on. That would be a balk right? If so, what rule are we using to call the balk? The only thing that I can find that might apply would be this" 6.02 (5.07)(f ), (g), (i), ( j) Pitcher Illegal Action (a) (8.05) Balks If there is a runner, or runners, it is a balk when: (1) The pitcher, while touching his plate, makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch and fails to make such delivery; I can't find anything about not stopping once you have started. Thanks
So as long as he is "wiggling" something, no matter how small of a movement or how long he does it, it's not a balk? If that's the case than I could see how this could get really subjective, especially at the lower levels where a kid is coming set but he's still got something going on somewhere. Thanks
I found some video. There are 3 videos here. The first one is his normal delivery. The second one was about the amount of "stop" time I saw with the R3. The 3rd one was much longer than what I saw. Tell me what you guys think. http://bluejayhunter.com/2016/09/roberto-osuna-messing-up-hitters-timing-in-various-ways.html
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stl_ump posted a topic in RulesThis was in the game between the Jays and the Indians on Tuesday. R3 Roberto Osuna was pitching (RHP) and he was in the stretch. He was pitching "normally" with the leg lift and then going home. All of a sudden I see him lift the leg and come to a complete stop for a second or two and then continue to home. I thought maybe my DVR had hiccuped or something it was so noticeable. But I backed it up and looked at it again and sure enough he had come to a complete stop. Even the announcers mentioned that he "hesitated" in order to throw off the timing of the batter. I was under the assumption that once a pitcher started his delivery to home that he couldn't stop... that it had to be one continuous motion. If a pitcher CAN pause, then a LHP with an R1 could just lift his leg and pause / hold it there to make sure the runner wasn't stealing. Thanks (looked for video but couldn't find any)
So then where does this leave the discussion? Does the limit on the batter switching boxes apply to only ambidextrous pitchers or in all situations?
And if the coach protests because of a wrong rule interp? Then what?
Thanks for that info. I did some more research last night and I believe this (switching sides) is discussed in the PBUC. I don't have a copy so I can't verify that or not. That being said, if it's not in the MLB rule book, how do we cite it as a rule if it's not in there.
Hey no problem. As I couldn't find anything about it when I looked I figured you guys would know one way or another. And since it's NOT addressed then it is something he CAN do. Thanks


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Supreme Cats roll into final
Geelong will shoot for back-to-back AFL premierships after moving into the grand final with a hard-fought 29-point win over the Western Bulldogs in Friday night's preliminary final at the MCG.
The Cats, who survived a strong challenge from the gutsy Bulldogs to triumph 12.11 (83) to 7.12 (54), will face the winner of tomorrow night's match-up between Hawthorn and St Kilda at the MCG next Saturday.
Entering the match as prohibitive $1.10 favourites with bookmakers, the Cats were made to work extremely hard for the win as the tenacious Bulldogs held them to their second-lowest score of the season.
Rodney Eade's side showed tremendous commitment to outtackle the Cats, and were in the hunt for the majority of the second half, at one stage getting to within 12 points late in the third quarter.
Trailing by 21 points at the long change, two goals in three minutes midway through the third quarter to Jarrod Harbrow pulled the Bulldogs right back into the contest as the Cats looked as vulnerable as they have all season.
It was not until midway through the final quarter, when Max Rooke scored the first major of the term 11 minutes in, that the gallant Bulldogs saw their hopes of an astonishing upset vanish as the Cats' big guns took control.
In the end, the Bulldogs were left to rue wasteful kicking in front of goal either side of three-quarter time, with Will Minson, Mitch Hahn, Matthew Boyd and Nathan Eagleton all missing regulation chances to cut into the Cats' lead.
Geelong on the other hand made the most of their limited opportunities in the final term, with Rooke (two goals, nine touches, five marks) and Steve Johnson (two goals, five marks, 18 disposals) ensuring Mark Thompson's side the chance to secure the club's first back-to-back flags since 1951-52.
As they have done with startling regularity all season, Geelong's crack midfield trio of Gary Ablett, Jimmy Bartel and Joel Corey led the way with a combined 84 possessions, while Andrew Mackie provided run out of defence with a telling 30 touches.
The Cats led by 21 points at half-time after kicking six unanswered goals either side of quarter-time to make up an 11-point deficit early in the game.
Geelong kicked the last three goals of the first term, and held the Bulldogs goalless for over half an hour to snatch the ascendancy with a three-goals-to-one second quarter.
After a hard-fought start to the second term, Johnson's 51st goal of the season finally broke the goal drought 13 minutes into the quarter and put the Cats out by more than two goals.
Geelong 12.11 (83) - S Johnson 2, M Rooke 2, J Bartel, T Harley, T Lonergan, C Mooney, B Ottens, M Stokes, T Varcoe, D Wojcinski
Bulldogs 7.12 (54) - J Harbrow 2, S Higgins 2, J Akermanis, N Eagleton, B Johnson
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Since the NYSDOL made the error and it was of no fault of my own, they should waive the repayment in my opinion. Why should I pay for their mistake? I worked hard for those EUC benefits, kept detailed records of my searches. If I made an error they would have applied penalties and would have ruined my life. I followed their instructions by the book and they paid me as a result. Now they want the money back. I paid back the 15-weeks to NYS that NJ paid me. The rest of the year's EUC I should be allowed to keep, which is why I requested a hearing. They want me to continue to certify until the hearing.
I'd really have to look at the entire file in order to give you the best possible advice and guidance. Happy to do so if you want to message me privately concerning this.


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Lot 104: $5.00 Series of 1914 Federal Reserve Note. Fr-855a, Blue seal.
Mitchell Auctions #10 Rare Coins, Currency, and Medals Auction
by Mitchell Auctions
October 29, 2016
Garden City, NY, USALive Auction
Past Lot
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Description: $5.00 Series of 1914 Federal Reserve Note. Fr-855a, Blue seal. A solid VF from the standpoint of wear, however there are edge splits at some of the folds. The paper nonetheless retains plenty of crispness and originality. Est. $60.
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