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Understand Your Options!
Understanding your options is the best way to begin your search for assistance. These days, struggling homeowners are bombarded with confusing information. We will help you understand why you should find legitimate foreclosure defense attorney assistance you can trust.
This page breaks down a homeowner's basic options, and the advantages and disadvantages of each. If you only take one thing from this analysis, it should be, "hire a foreclosure defense attorney", or hire a mortgage litigation attorney, but don't try to handle this yourself!
1. Hire an Attorney
An experienced foreclosure defense attorney is in the best position to get you the best results, and this is your best place to start. MRP strongly recommends foreclosure defense attorney representation for any distressed homeowner. These days, there are many honest foreclosure defense lawyers with significant practice experience, that provide legitimate, affordable representation for homeowners. Your job is to choose a foreclosure defense attorney IN YOUR STATE that offers the scope of services you need.
Foreclosure Defense Attorneys
There any many law firms that offer foreclosure defense retainer agreements. These firms will typically do everything possible, short of going to court or filing any lawsuits, to resolve your mortgage. These attorneys are best classified as "loan modification" attorneys who have a legal staff that perform the vast majority of the work, and are quite competent to prevent a foreclosure and obtain a loan modification or other foreclosure alternative for a client. However, make sure that your retainer agreement covers attorney functions, like answering complaints, filing counter-claims and motions, and all court-related matters, especially in a judicial foreclosure state (where foreclosures are handled exclusively through the court system).
The majority of foreclosure defense attorneys and law firms offer just such a retainer, which allows them to offer these services for a few thousand dollars in affordable monthly payments. These firms typically have the experience to offer a substantial value to their clients and are recommended over non-profit assistance or attempting the process yourself.
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Bottom line, this is the real thing. If you want to hold your lender legally responsible for any violations of your rights, while simultaneously pursuing a lasting resolution to your troubled mortgage, you will need a mortgage litigation attorney. First of all, you will need to have some legitimate causes of action. Following your initial consultation, a legitimate litigation attorney will begin by evaluating your original loan documents for any RESPA, TILA, and other lending violations present in the origination process. This will be followed by analyzing any chain of title issues (your loan being sold and legitimate documents to support it) to verify the lender's right to foreclosure. The attorney will also want to analyze the servicing of your loan, including the application of payments, insurance and taxes. If you have tried to obtain mortgage relief assistance through your lender or servicer, that process will also be analyzed for causes of action and any violations of your rights. Finally, if the foreclosure process is in progress or even completed, the process will be analyzed for defects raising legal issues.
These attorneys typically stop the foreclosure process by filing a lawsuit against your lender, accompanied by an injunction halting the foreclosure or eviction process. Hiring a lender litigation attorney means that the attorney will be hands on! These attorneys will represent you in court, mediation, hearings, as well as file lawsuits, injunctions, motions, counter-claims, and everything required during the legal process. Obviously, suing a bank is not cheap, and this type of representation requires significant resources. Offsetting the initial outlay of money, a litigation can end in the awarding of damages or a cash settlement, so this option may just prove less expensive, or even profitable in the long run.
2. Use a Non-Profit
There are many non-profit organizations that can provide you with assistance and the levels of service can differ greatly. One of the toughest challenges of working with a non-profit is that most have limited resources and are restricted in their abilities. While we applaud and share the general philosophy behind most non-profit organizations, homeowners should understand that The Federal Trade Commission bars ANYONE other than an attorney from representing distressed homeowners in ANY debt negotiation.
This means that the non-profits can basically help you submit an application for assistance. They can also offer you general advice on navigating the process, but there is a fine line that they must skirt. When their advice gets into the area of legal advice, they would be illegally practicing law, unless they have a foreclosure attorney on staff that is licensed to practice in your state. Unfortunately, this means the negotiating will then be left to you, and that is typically the most crucial phase of a mortgage negotiation. This means that it will be you vs. Goliath in a complex legal matter. Do you have the time, knowledge, and experience to handle the complex negotiation of a mortgage like a foreclosure defense attorney does?
If you choose to seek assistance from a non-profit organization, we recommend that you use the U.S Department of Housing and Urban Development's (HUD) list of Approved Housing Counseling Agencies. However, you should be clear that we are strong advocates of foreclosure defense attorney representation. Many non-profit organizations will refer a distressed homeowner to a foreclosure defense attorney anyway, so we recommend skipping this step and speaking to a foreclosure defense attorney from the start.
To a struggling homeowner, the idea of getting FREE assistance is quite enticing. But ask yourself these simple questions. What do they stand to gain by offering services at no cost? How do they make money to be able to afford the resources they are offering for free? Well, some non-profit organizations offer FREE services in order to gain your confidence and solicit you for other services. Also, "Non-profit" does not always mean "no-cost", so be leery of any organization that offers their assistance for FREE and make sure the value of actual services you are asked to pay for. They usually CANNOT represent you past submitting your application, as the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) prohibits any "non-attorney" from representing a distressed homeowner. While most of the non-profits have the best of intentions, mortgage mitigation is a fight over money. The banks have attorneys representing them, and having the right foreclosure defense or litigation attorney on your side can mean the difference between losing your home to foreclosure and keeping your home with affordable payments.
3. Do it Yourself
While this may seem an inviting option on its surface, it is not recommended.
If your bank indicates that they are willing to "work with you", you should be suspicious. Most banks, especially the larger banks, are notorious for operating what is often referred to as the "dual-track" system. That is, while your request for assistance is "under review", the bank is simultaneously moving forward with foreclosure proceedings. This is not some kind of evil plot, but rather banks deploying strategies that allow them to keep their options open and do what is best for them financially. This practice is now illegal in most states.
Also, most of the programs available to homeowners today have rules which are difficult to follow and stringent deadlines which can result in the denial of your application if they are missed. Just keeping up with the process can become a full time job, even for an experienced foreclosure defense attorney! Many homeowners who choose this route end up having to hire a foreclosure defense attorney in the "eleventh hour", in a last ditch attempt to save their home. If you have had difficulty applying for mortgage relief assistance, or believe that you have been wrongfully denied, you should consult an experienced foreclosure defense attorney.
Many of the homeowners that end up hiring foreclosure defense attorneys report first attempting the process themselves, only to be denied any assistance. Many of these homeowners report that the amount of time and grief they invested makes them wish they had simply hired a foreclosure defense attorney from the start. The process of applying for assistance can be difficult and confusing. If you are planning on trying to deal directly with your bank, be ready for a rough road and some sleepless nights. Have no illusions! Banks have to protect their interests just as you do, and they have attorneys executing their strategies. Wouldn't you feel more comfortable having an experienced foreclosure defense attorney on your side?
4. Do Nothing
You can also just do nothing. The foreclosure process will run its own course and you will eventually be evicted from the property. Taking this path will result in the most damage to your future. You will be forced to leave your home, and both the foreclosure and eviction will become matters of public record, listed on your credit report. Where applicable, you may also end up owing a hefty deficiency balance.
With all of the programs available to homeowners these days, this option does not make much sense. There are more programs available for distressed homeowners than ever before. In addition, many legal professionals now have extensive experience in foreclosure defense and individual litigation, that can represent your interests and resolve your troubled mortgage.
Even if you can no longer afford your home, most lenders are willing to negotiate a settlement which will allow for a smooth transition that will not damage your credit the way a foreclosure and eviction will. Lenders are amenable to these solutions because it spares them the heavy costs of the foreclosure and eviction processes. Sometimes lenders offer cash for the return of the property.


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In Uncharted Waters Navigational Principles for the Path to Marriage
The Big Picture "God blessed [the man and woman]; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it…'" Genesis 1:28a
The Big Picture Man's primeval duty is dominion. Dominion is achieved through families. Families are the foundation of society. Marriages are the foundations of families.
The Big Picture Jesus and the apostles defend marriage and family. Paul uses marriage as a picture of Christ & the Church. God's plan of redemption was carried out through the family of Israel. God's law was given to the fathers of Israel (Deut. 6). The gospel is perpetuated and preserved through families whose stability is founded on strong marriages (Ps. 78).
The Big Picture So, if… Dominion is a BIG DEAL, and Families are a BIG DEAL and Marriage is BIG DEAL, then… Shouldn't the way marriages form be a BIG DEAL?!?!
Dating Appeared in modern form in the early 20th century. Looking for satisfaction in a present, temporal relationship, not a lasting marriage; emotion-based. Fosters both physical and emotional promiscuity. Hardens one to breakups (divorce training). Cheapens love, treats it like a game, degrades courtesy (hookups, Facebook/texting breakups). Promotes immaturity, distorts the respective roles and worth of men and women. Disregards the honoring of parents, focuses on the wants of individuals, little regard to long-term effects.
As a result of dating… Young people are completely consumed with the senseless drama stirred up by temporal relationships. The divorce rate is at 50%. Average age of virginity loss is 15-17. Median number of "partners" prior to marriage is 5 for women, 8 for men. Marriage, love, commitment, and relationships have cheapened, and the biblical vision behind them has been obscured. Youth culture is defined by individualism and rebellion.
Instead, we need relationships that… Are grounded in Scripture, not man's wisdom. Are covenant-based. Are not prone to break. Are strategic. Make marriage the primary goal. Honor parents and God. Preserve purity. Reverence God's purpose for marriage. Require that young people be mature and discerning, and act in accordance with God's design for them as men and women.
Courtship and Betrothal
Claims Biblically based, "God's way," etc. Preserves "emotional purity." Honors parents. Does not lead to a series of broken relationships. Focuses on character and spirituality rather than romantic love. Betrothal proponents always claim it is spiritually superior to courtship.
Courtship A process of evaluation Approval from both sets of parents. Interaction supervised; physical contact managed. Young man develops close relationship with the girl's father as well; families fellowship often. Focus on knowing one another, not simply falling in love May not end in marriage. If it does, may be followed by engagement.
Courtship Founded on purity and parental honor. Reflects Victorian/Medieval imagery of courting as a guide for actual methodology. Yearning for a bygone era. Gentlemanliness. Young man seen as trying to "win the heart" of his lady. Romanticized.
Betrothal Claimed to be strictly biblical. Heartbreak, multiple relationships eliminated. Step 1 is a commitment to marriage. Betrothal is considered as binding as marriage. Only then does emotional connection begin. Father brings young man to his daughter, often before she has any interest. Held accountable to "fall in love." Marriage only serves to initiate physical union.
Betrothal Taken from OT Law and biblical relationships, esp. Isaac & Rebekah and Joseph & Mary. Emphasizes fathers authority over daughter. Absolutely no physical contact or even unsupervised time prior to marriage.
Areas of Contention/Difference 1.The degree and form of parental involvement 2.How to choose whom to court/betroth 3.The timing of romantic emotions 4.The timing of forms of physical contact Taken from "Approaches to Courtship/Betrothal" by David Crank
Problems with Courtship Highly subjective; everyone's got their way. Models are quite complicated. Relationships can fit in a box. Raises expectations, misleading imagrey Families conflict over competing models. Young man courts the father as much (or more) than the young lady. Devastation if it does not end in marriage.
Problems with Betrothal We must be made immune to failure or trial. Extremely unrealistic and impractical. Ignores fundamental human behavior. Distorts Scripture to find support. Very low success rate. Claims Jewish betrothal was God's design for preserving emotional purity.
Biblical Romance Samson (a Hebrew) - "So he came back and told his father and mother, "I saw in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines; now therefore, get her for me as a wife." - Judges 14:2 Shechem (a Canaanite) - "So Shechem spoke to his father Hamor, saying, 'Get me this young girl for a wife." - Genesis 34:4
Biblical Romance Adam and Eve - matched by God. Isaac and Rebekah - so unusual the servant didn't even think it would work; required divine intervention; quite informal betrothal/wedding Jacob and Rachael - He kissed her on sight! Jacob and Leah - Betrothed, never fell in love. Joseph and Potiphera - Godly man married to pagan woman. Moses and Zipporah - She was given to him by her father, no description of romance.
Biblical Romance Othniel and Achsah - Won his wife by conquest in answer to her father's challenge. Boaz and Ruth - met, fell in love, matched themselves, and she proposed to him! David and Michal - fell in love, then told her father; politically influenced. David and Abigail - God killed her husband, David admired her virtuous character, sent her a proposal through his servants; all of this happened in very short order with no formality.
Biblical Romance Solomon and his bride - intense passion all the way. Hosea and Gomer - He was commanded by God to marry a prostitute. Mary and Joseph - betrothed, but no record of the nature of their prior relationship. Jesus and the Church - passionate, sacrificial love for her for an eternity prior to their betrothal.
Biblical Betrothal Jewish betrothal much like the pagan world. Socially/politically/economically motivated (bride-price), not by emotional purity. God does not prescribe, but gives principles for how to live in its context. Treated much the same as slavery and polygamy. Not universally practiced.
General Problems Devotion to men, terms, systems; God-in-a-box Few advocates have actually practiced it. Hampers preparation for dealing with marital emotions Focus on finding perfect spouse, not personal maturity. Dads tend to misuse their authority. Boys become intimidated by girls and their dads, as well as the expectations placed on them.
General Problems High expectations for success. Parents not wanting to "let go"; "clanning" Late marriages, especially for girls. Glorification of singleness. Feeds piousness and creates division Ultimately motivated by a fear of dating
Conclusions so far Dating, courtship, and betrothal are NOT supported by Scripture Courtship can lead to many of the same problems as dating, especially due to its complicated nature, raised expectations, and misconstruing of paternal involvement.. Betrothal has been completely contrived. Dating may not always produce sound marriages but courtship & betrothal are struggling to just produce marriages! THE SCRIPTURES ACTUALLY PROVIDE NO SYSTEMATIC MEANS OF FINDING AND DEVELOPING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A POTENTIAL SPOUSE!
So then, what are we to do? Even though the Scripture does not contain a systematic method, it does present many key principles that should guide our thinking in this area. We can also find examples in real-life scenarios and draw from common sense. Following these simple principles will lead us to the desired result, essentially eliminating the need for any type of dating/courtship/betrothal scheme. We need to break free from feeling beholden to follow a man-made system.
Mission: Marriage The only goal is to find a marriage partner. Naturally eliminates many challenges. Chances of broken relationships minimized without complicated safeguards. Demands greater maturity and discernment.
Be Ready Before You Start Why be seeking a relationship at 15? You can't get married! Intend to be ready early, but don't define ready as "having your fields prepared." Past generations found great benefit to building a life together.
Seeking God's Will Be previously accustomed to seeking and finding God's will. Don't expect God to "speak" to you, and certainly don't try "putting out fleece." God often reveals His will in unexpected ways. Assume that it is God's will that you get married (Genesis 1:28, 2:28). Let seeking God's will make you active, not passive.
There may not be "just one" We have become dangerously obsessive about finding our "soul mate." Many men of the past had multiple wives (due to death in childbirth or disease, not divorce) and had loving relationships with all of them. God made woman in general to be a suitable helpmeet to man in general. Focus on being a mature, godly person worthy of marriage, not on finding the perfect spouse; they won't be perfect after you marry them anyway!
Don't Expect Perfection Rough edges are an opportunity for growth. Fathers especially must not demand perfection. Dads with excessively high expectations are literally scaring many homeschooled young men away from courtship and away from homeschooled girls (public school girls without involved dads become a lot more attractive). This pattern will undermine patriarchy in the next generation.
Focus on Dominion God did not make man to take dominion alone; only with the partnership of his helpmeet. Young men should plan their vision and know what kind of woman will help them fulfill it. Inspiration is one of the first keys of successful leadership.
Headship Women are always under headship, passing from their fathers to their husbands (see Numbers 30 illustration). A young man must respect the headship of the young lady's father. A father must also come to terms with the fact that it is not he who is potentially marrying the young man (see Laban and Rebekah). Fathers have a responsibility to guide and protect their daughters; but if they have raised them well, they should have reasonable confidence in their decision.
Flee from Youthful Lusts Dating makes us flee to lust. On the other hand, courtship, and especially betrothal, can make us fear our emotions. They often devise a rigid sliding scale of emotional/physical attachment not found in Scripture nor always consistent with prudence. Neither extreme is a good thing; we need to find balance, use discretion, seek God's guidance in Scripture and prayer.
Emotions for Guys Being right the first time is not always possible. Don't seek a wife until you are ready. If your goal is marriage, you won't deeply invest in casual relationships, or leave behind a string of heartbroken girls. Be very cautious with the tender emotions of young ladies. When you know you're right, then make a commitment and stand by it.
Emotions for Girls Peter called women the "weaker" vessel. They are much more affected by their emotions and find it harder to protect themselves from them, especially romantic fantasies. Fathers must protect their daughters from emotionally harmful influences. Young men must behave as gentlemen toward girls and not lead them on when they have no intention of marrying (or are not ready to). If men stepped up, girls would be set free.
Emotions in General Parents and young people have to learn to break from the "dating culture" and not stir up rumors and suspicions. Nevertheless, romantic emotions are not sinful, wicked, or intrinsically harmful when expressed prior to marriage or even a marriage commitment. "Don't marry the one you love, love the one you marry, " is not found in Scripture. Affection is a necessary element not only to a successful marriage, but even to the desire for a marriage to take place at all. If you didn't love someone, why would you want to marry them?
Physical Affection True, this is an area where we must use caution, because of the power of physical affection, but… There is only one act that is forbidden before marriage in the Scripture, so… For the rest, each of should use a combination of Scriptural wisdom and good sense appropriate to the situation. To suggest that a third-party author could write a list of dos and don'ts complete with a timetable that applies to everyone is absurd.
Broken Relationships? With sinful humans involved, nothing is foolproof. While we have been given great wisdom for navigating these waters, we need to be prepared for mistakes. We should meet this trial as we would any other. Broken relationships should not drive us to defeat, paranoia, or the idea of "retroactive marriage." They instead afford an opportunity that God probably knew we needed in order to grow in a vital area (as we would hopefully think about any other trial).
Simplicity From www.theartofmanliess.com, 4/30/09,www.theartofmanliess.com "7 Lessons in Manliness from the Greatest Generation" Lesson #7: Don't Make Life so Complicated! If there's a common thread in these lessons, it's having a common sense and a level-headed approach to life. In our day, when men are obsessing about finding… their holy grail of a woman… the Greatest Generation's uncomplicated approach to life is refreshing… they didn't obsess about their relationships, they just found a gal they loved and married her… They didn't think about how to get things done, they just got em' done… Instead of spending your time navel gazing your life away, just get up and go!
Git 'er done! When you're ready to marry, seek & find! When you know you've found the right one, why wait? When you get married, get multiplying!
Lessons from my own "courtship" Honor God, and honor each other; the rest pretty much takes care of itself. There is no box. God's will does not always fit our preconceived notions. Flexibility is better than rigid guidelines. The danger of high expectations and fairytale imagery. Past relationships are not always a bad thing. Planning your wedding is one of the best pre-marital experiences a couple can have. What would I have done differently?
The conclusion when all has been heard is this: There are three things which are too wonderful for me, Four which I do not understand: The way of an eagle in the sky, The way of a serpent on a rock, The way of a ship in the middle of the sea, And the way of a man with a maid. The words of Agur, son of Jakeh, Proverbs 30:18- 19
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Kimi Raikkonen will drive for the Lotus F1 team again next season, a move which was widely anticipated, after no real sign that he was in the running for a seat at Ferrari, McLaren Red Bull or Mercedes, all of whom have confirmed their drivers this summer. There is no word in the statement about the future of Lotus' other driver Romain Grosjean.
Raikkonen's comeback from two years away in rallying has been very impressive, he lies third in the drivers championship, the after a competitive season, with six podiums among 16 points scoring results out of 17 races. Only China was a blank; a race were he was in the top five in the closing stages but tried to go too far on the tyres and lost out.
His comeback stands in stark contrast to Michael Schumacher who has only managed one podium in his three years back in the sport.
What Raikkonen has lacked in qualifying pace this year he has more than made up for in consistency, particularly in contrast to his team mate Romain Grosjean, who has cost the team a significant number of points through getting involved in incidents with other drivers. For a a variety of reasons, Grosjean has failed to score points in eight races, almost 50% of the total and only outscored Raikkonen once, in Canada.
Team principal Eric Boullier said at the weekend that he would confirm bothe his drivers for next year before the last race in Brazil. It's slightly unusual for them to announce separately, with no word about Grosjean's drive for next year. But perhaps they are keeping him focussed after his recent misdemeanours. There are no serious signals around that they plan to go with anyone else for 2013.
But Raikkonen has used his experience to bring home the best results the car is capable of, lacking as it does that last few tenths of qualifying pace which have meant that victories have eluded them.
In announcing the renewal, Lotus headlines its press release, "Better the devil you know", an elusive line, to which no further reference is made in the rest of the document.
There is a bit of the devil in Kimi, but there have been no stories this year of the kind of high-octane, devil-may-care lifestyle Raikkonen enjoyed in his previous F1 career. He has said very little, got on with the job and kept his private life out of the papers.
As for his decision to commit to Lotus, despite rumours swirling around this weekend in India that Genii was looking to offload the team amid questions over finance, everything seems to be functioning normally, even if development has tailed off slightly in recent races. THe team had new parts in India and good race pace, but lost some time with development of its double DRS which never actually raced.
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"This season has shown me that I still love racing as much as I ever did. Obviously, I would have not come back to the sport if I did not feel like this. Driving a Formula 1 car still gives me the same inspiration and I feel the same passion for it.
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"But Raikkonen has used his experience to bring home the best results the car is capable"
I don´t agree. He should have won at least a couple of races at the start of the season when his car was the fastest,
Is there another F1 that I'm not aware of where the Lotus had the fastest car of the field?
I don't believe he should have won a couple of races but I do think if Alonso were driving the Lotus he'd have more points than Kimi. Kimi the champion who was beaten by Massa in the Ferrari team that supposedly only backs one driver. Additionally while GrosjeAn has improved he was thoroughly outdone by Alonso at Renault. My point is that Kimi has driven well... but I have a feeling that Alonso in the Lotus would be fighting for the title as he is now.
Alonso the prima donna would thrown out his toys and quit the team by now if he was at Lotus. Ferrari are kissing his feet and he still throws tantrums and the same old moaning "the car is not fast enough" after every race and you think he could've lived with Lotus' many strategic bungles and poor development pace.
You living in a dream world mate, more points in Ferrari, while watching Ferrari/Force India and Mercedes passing by on the straight?
not really, the ferrari nvr develop the car in kimi favor purely because kimi didn;t visit the factory often enough while they had no choice but to use massa input(Schumacher said the same thing in an interview back in 2008 and claim that kimi nvr come to them unlike Massa) Kimi did well in 2007 and first half of 2008 when he comfortably leading the wdc. Things get ugly when the new development kick in and outdone kimi badly. In 2009, when massa injured, the team had to relies on kimi input again, but the team no longer in favor of developing the F60. Without further new parts, kimi clinch 5 podiums and a win. According to Edd Straw, the team asked kimi why didnt he told them earlier, and kimi replied, he did, only once. It was kimi fault for not being a LEADER as alonso does now. But i see a change in Kimi on his stint in Lotus, he recommend to the team in testing new parts although it will cost him time in free practice sessions.
As for grosjean being outdone by alonso, bear in mind Fisichella nvr score any point being kimi 's teammate. How does that pan out for you??
And what about Jarno Trulli that regularly outperform Alonso only to be kicked out from the team with 3 races remaining??
Still a great driver in your opinionns??
My point is, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Circumstances changed everytime, you cant assume it will be the same.
Massa 's poor form is due to he no longer enjoy having a say on the car development that he had in 2007-2009 when kimi just throw it away.
Love your detail thoughts and opinion on this =)
If you look back on India you will see that Kimi is on it! He fought massa all the way despite now being in an inferior car compared to the Ferrari. He even passed Massa at one stage only for Massa to pass him straight back. For me this showed that massas car was superior and Kimi had no right being that close to the Ferrari, yet there he was.
Would have been awesome to see him back in a McLaren...
he should win Bahrain, but his team failed to deploy undercut strategy by pitting him at the same lap as vettel with slower pit stop ........lMAO
anyway, lotus only has pace to win on 2 occasion, but in these 2 occasion, the lotus didnt has the pace for qualifying.
Hardly the fastest car out there, mclaren was the car to beat earlier.
Lotus was never clearly the fastest car for the whole duration of the weekend ever this season except maybe Hungary .
The teams were struggling to get to grips with the tyres and dialing in the cars which was an opportunity ( though even lotus was learning) lotus could have exploited better (with lesser degradation and warmer condition advantage). But don't you think a driver does indeed need some time to be back at his best .. So expecting kimi to be back on form from race one is too much to ask .
Add to that the renault engine disadvantage :
Even in these above listed races the Straight line speed(already lesser) had to be compromised for grip. (Sitting Duck)
And keeping the statistics in mind - Kimi with no wins to his name is Sitting Third in the championship
Kimi has had a stellar year second only to Alonso
Driver of the Year has to be Alonso - Maximised Results from every race possible
Kimi is right behind him --- especially on the race days .... Faultless CLEAN Driving
First, Lotus was never the fastest car, that honor belonged first to McLaren and later to Red Bull. Second, Kimi also needed to learn a completely new way of driving a formula 1 car, given that he had never driven with full tanks and the tires were completely new to him. Add to that the technological advances since his departure and lack of wheel to wheel racing experience for two years, I'd say his early season was phenomenal.
Lotus were never the fastest they were ode on the first three. But both Mclaren Aust/ China & Red Bull thereafter.
Kimi has always been my favourite driver for his attitude to racing. He doesn't want nothing else other than to drive the wheels off something fast. He has and always will be a class act tho his savagely fast qualifying days seem to have gone since he left McLaren.
James, do you see Kimi driving for another big team after 2013? He seems to have burned bridges with both McLaren and Ferrari (or atleast that's what I've heard elsewhere).
If the rumoured Vettel move to Ferrari happens in 2014 or 2015, do you see Kimi going to Red Bull? He has affiliation with them from rallying, has the same kind of mentality that Red Bull would like, and has shown the speed needed to get at the front in his first season after his return.
Any snippets?
Oh, that'd be a good pairing!
Get Raikkonen at Red Bull with Webber, Vettel over to Ferrari. Hamilton and Rosberg pushing in the Merc's and Button in the Macca. Probably get Di Resta in the other seat at McClaren and 2014 would be a legendary season!!
DiResta? Really?
a clever guy, but not instinctively fast enough. Hulkenberg is outperforming him even having spent the last season on the bench. Fair and square.
Beaten by Sutil last year and will be beaten by Hulkenburg this year yet people keep touting him for the top seats.
A midfield driver at best.
The British people love Di Resta.
Di Resta is a good driver, so I don't see why not.
I don't see Webber driving beyond 2014. If he can win a championship in the next two years, great for him. I don't see him doing a Barrichello and driving for another 500 years before retiring.
That does seem like an odd title for the announcement. Almost adversarial in tone, like Lotus are holding their nose and reluctantly re-signing him. Frankly, I think Lotus are lucky to have him. Without Kimi's efforts the team would be waaaaaayyy down the constructor's title hunt. Let's hope that next year's car is even better and we see Kimi back on the top step.
Perhaps it was a slightly French attempt at humour - considering Kimi being made to do sponsor events is like getting blood out of a drunken stone.
Agree, and EB would be whom I'd replace before KR.
In the press release itself, though, Lotus is praising Kimi, essentially giving the credit for the good season the whole team has had to Kimi, so I doubt they feel any reluctance in keeping him.
+1 I don't believe many people have actually read the release. Just going off the quotes they've gathered off news sites
I think you're a bit harsh on Schumi, James.
The only time when Mercedes had a good car was this year when Rosberg won..and Schumi was running second when his car broke down.
The Lotus on the other hand this year has been one of the top 2-3 front runners for most first part of the season when Kimi had some good results.
Having said this and not being a Kimi fan, I can admit he put some impressive drives considering he's been away for 2 years.
I wish he would be more enthusiastic and lose the grumpy face.
"I wish he would be more enthusiastic and lose the grumpy face." No! That's what's so good - he's the one I wait for when they are doing the corral interviews because he says it like it is. The rest just use a compendium of platitudes. His "I don't care about the other drivers ... " a few GPs ago was classic , and exactly what a GP driver should say. Plus it's the Finnish way I think - Tommi Makinen, Juha Kankkunen, Keke Rosberg - all world champions and just the same. Watch Kimi on Top Gear to see what he's really like - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpdyeu_kimi-raikkonen-at-top-gear-2012_auto
Lotus is 4th in the WCC, it has been a good car in the beginning of the year but it is still lying 4th in championship. In 2010 and 2011 Micheal also had a car that was lying 4th in championship. Saying it is only because of the car that Kimi has had a better comeback is not being entirely honest.
In the 3 years of Micheal's return his teammate has scored a few podiums and one win while Micheal has only scored one podium. In comparison Kimi has scored double the amount of podiums and points then his teammate. Micheal has been extremely unlucky this year with all of his technical issues and team mistakes. But he himself has also made a few mistakes, Kimi on the otherhand is 3rd in the WDC because he basically hasn't made any mistakes during the races. I understand why Schumacher fans might be unhappy with all of the technical issues. But when it comes to comeback comparisons against Kimi, it really isn't just car. That being said I feel Micheal has done a good job for his age.
Don't like saying anything bad about Kimi because I am a fan. But this year he has been out qualified by a rookie who lost his seat a few years ago because he wasn't good enough.
That same rookie would probably be right up with Kimi if not better in the race stats if he hadn't been involved in crashes in something like 50% of the races in the first lap.
Because the best way to compare drivers is generally against the only other with the same equipment as it is difficult to know how good or bad the car is.
In 2010 and 2011 the big 3 teams shut out all the others unlike this year where the tyres spiced up everything with the 7 winners in 7 races.
It's not Kimi's fault Grosjean's crashed so many times but where as Grosjean is 9-7 up in qualifying, that's the main reason he is being destroyed 9-2 by Raikkenon in races both finished.
What exactly does that have to do with a comparison between Kimi and Schumi? I am a fan of Schumi but the fact is, he also had the 4th best car in 2010 and 2011, just like Kimi had this season. So saying Kimi has a better car is a moot point.
Grosjean wasn't let go because of his performances, Renault wanted to get rid of the team at that time. His qualifying wasn't far from Alonso whilst entering F1 in the middle of the season. He did a much better job against Alonso that year then what Fisichella managed when he entered Ferrari during half of the season. And Lotus had enough faith in him to give him another chance this season. Grosjean's crashes however is his own mistakes. To say someone would score more then their teammate if it wasnt for their own mistakes is straw-man logic. It isn't Kimi's fault that Grosjean has had a few first lap issues. But luckily Grosjean has finished a few races and in 95% of them he ended up behind Kimi.
Kimi's qualifying has improved since the British GP. But Kimi has also had all sort of problems in qualifying like kers failures, gearbox penalties, differential problems and team strategy. Of course you dont get points for qualifying, Kimi has outscored Grosjean 14 - 2 that is one of biggest margins on the grid between teammates.
I think you're maligning James a bit. All he's done is state two facts;
1. "His comeback stands in stark contrast to Michael Schumacher" - fact.
2. "who has only managed one podium in his three years back in the sport." - fact.
Also, you're forgetting Monaco this year where Mercedes was very good - pole position for Schumi and Rosberg 3rd. If it hadn't been for Schumi's brain snap in Spain he would have started from pole and things may have turned out differently (yes I know he had an equipment failure but when you're out in front at Monaco you set the pace and the equipment isn't pushed as much, IMO). Rosberg finished 2nd.
"It's clear that apart from a few races last year and several races this year MS has struggled to match Rosberg"
When both finished races this year Schumacher was 6-1 up finishing ahead of Rosberg
Last year races finished - Schumacher 6-7 down on Rosberg
I fail to see how your statement is clear from the facts??
If you ask 10 engineers is a pointless statement that anyone in your position can use to try to make out their point is valid.
Sadly for Schumacher, it was his car that kept breaking down when Mercedes had some reasonable pace earlier in the year.
James, you wanted to highlight Kimi's successful return to F1 by comparing it to Schumi's, but you made no reference to the machinery that they are driving. Mercedes it's been a dog of a car and still is. This year Schumi's car had terrible reliability while Rosberg had no problems.
I just think it's not fair to compare apples with oranges.
On top of all this, Schumi is 43 and it's been away for 3 years not 2 like Kimi. And also Kimi has been rallying in these two years while Michael was probably horse back-riding.
I think we get enough of Benson's Schumi bashing articles. We don't need more of that.
It's been clear that Michael needed a few seasons to get up to speed, he started to show a bit more of his old talent this year but as he said he's had a 50% retirement rate - sometimes through his brain fade moments but more often by a truly awful mercedes that fell to bits more often than not.
Kimi on the other hand got up to race speed much faster than Michael. But it's clear his quali pace will need a few seasons yet.
Perhaps it's because Kimi is a lot younger than Michael, or maybe it's just the car they got on their return. Hard to know what made the difference really.
Yes, I agree. Raikennen had been out for less time, the rules had changed much more for Schumacher (2006-10), Raikennen is much younger (he is still younger than Schumacher when he retired the first time). In addition to this, MS has had a terrible/mediocre car. Rosberg has more experience than Grosjean as well, making team-mate comparisons unbalanced between KR and MS.
I agree, but all the journos, including James Allen know that they get good hits by hacking on Schumi every chance they get.
Which seems to be more and more often now...
I think it's because his head to head versus Rosberg isn't great at all..
Not that I know what it is off the top of my head, but Nico's had a few podiums, one win, and beaten Schumacher in points each season. Schumi's done better in qualifying this year, but has had some awful, Barichello-esque luck this season.
I haven't done the stats either, but I am pretty sure if you take out the races when Schumi's car broke down..he outscores Rosberg.
Anyway, my point was not to compare Scumi with Rosberg, but to compare the car Schumi had to drive since his comeback and the car Kimi had. In 3 years the Mercedes had a few podiums and one win. That is pretty embarrassing for a team like Mercedes.
Hi James,
I have a technical question for you regarding Kimi.
At Indian GP on the long straights Massa was using all of his KERS while Kimi was using only about 75%.
Do you think the way of the way drivers use KERS can compromise them?
I'd also like to ask James if he has known a top driver and a top engineer like Mark Slade together go the wrong way on set up as Kimi and Mark did on the saturday?
@ Alam, btw, Massa has the fastest car on Sunday with a top speed on the straight of 320 k, Kimi only 310 k
i know lewis hamilton scew up his car setup countless time. And vettel too in monaco, spa etc.
Is normal really, drivers are desperate for more, some time took a little bit too much of risk, and it didnt work out.
There was no point in Kimi using the rest of his KERS since he was hitting the rev limiter and using more KERS would make no difference. Their downfall was a shorter 7th gear compared to Ferrari, nothing else.
Obviously, using KERS on different parts of the track gives different results. For example, in the first lap, you will always find the frontrunners spending all their KERS if they have to, in the first few straights, to get away from the DRS effect.
As the race progresses, drivers will use their KERS as per what they see in practice and whatever gives them the best cumulative laptime instead of single sector performance.
Kimi is a great talent in any motor sport he competes in. That's why Mika and Michael backed him up to get his provisional super license when he started his F1 career,They knew he was a talented race car driver.
So what if Kimi hates doing press conferences and doing public appearances. That's just his nature, He's a racer that all he needs to be.
After he wins a few more WDC retires from F1. I can't wait to see what he does in a WRC return and maybe endurance racing and his other racing activities he does for fun .
Hi Terry. I am not trying to be negative about Kimi, but if all drivers would be like Kimi we wouldn't have a drivers press conference..or after race interviews. For example I want to hear from them after the race about their strategy and the car problems and all other little things that a keen F1 fan would like to know. Kimi doesn't or rarely offers that.
I get what you say about being a racer and that's it, but Kimi looks like he's in pain when he speaks. Zero enthusiasm!
I don't think you get any real info from the press conferences. It's all too much orchestrated. On strategy, most of the time you get nothing more then what was already obvious in the race, or what you can read in JA's report afterwards with much more detail in that.
Drivers are just too carefull (and they should be) in revealing bits and pieces. You want the opposition to keep on assuming and second-guessing. Only if it's blatantly obvious, drivers will reveal anything "crucial".
I think journo's that have been around a long time, prolly like JA, can confirm it's much harder these days to catch a driver out or "ambushing" him into revealing important stuff.
The "ambushing" still continues, but it's become more childish in that whatever you say WILL be taken out of context and speculation is based more on one's own fantasy then anything else.
But I do have to praise the likes of JA and Joe's blog for trying to keep silly speculations to a minimum. It's what separates their work from the vast amounts of non-quality journalism on F1 out there.
Then why are we having these post race interviews? Why is all the media gathered and waiting for the drivers to show up?
You like the generic "Yes, the race was good, we had a a good qualifying which we put to good use. We struggled a bit with setup in practice, but in the race the track came to us, I want to thank the team for excellent work etc. "? If you are lucky Webber might say something interesting, the other people are just giving rehearsed speeches... Or in the case of Vettel prattling on for about half an hour. His interviews are as long as the Austrian national anthem...
I am a keen f1 fan since 1992 and this means mothing to me (press conferencing). Especially these days.
Awesome news. The elusive answers from Kimi the last month or so made me nervous. For all I know he could grow tired of F1 again and go to Nascar or something. Knock on coânda exhaust and failed DDRS.
Agree, great to see him stay - he adds so much to the spectacle
I like Grosjean as a person but as a driver, he is hit-and-miss... literally. I would like to see another year from him, but I would rather see Nico Hulkenberg get a better drive. I hope Ferrari have signed him for 2014, if not I'd like to see him at Williams or Sauber. I want Senna to have another year as well... he doesn't have as much overall race experience as others so I feel he'll steadily improve.
grosjean ? more hit than miss unfortunately
Bruno is out at Williams after being used by a team looking for money and some sort of absolution for the death of Ayrton Senna. Everyone knew this was nothing more than a one-night-stand except Bruno! Being forced to sit out Fourteen FP1 sessions by the team was disgraceful and insulting.
I expect Bruno will move down the grid once again in 2013 for the second seat at Caterham. At least with Mr. Fernandez, we know his true motives when hiring a number two driver.
worth remembering that Senna had all but been signed for Honda 2009 before it became Brawn.
Pretty much agree with everything you said. My guess is this time next year (if not before) McLaren will be kicking themselves for missing out on Hulkenberg and opting for Perez instead.
James, I've been surprised that teams haven't rushed to sign Kimi. Is it his salary demands? His temperament? Has he burnt his bridges with the top teams?
On paper, he would have been a great fit in any of the top teams and even teams lower down in the grid would massively benefit from his consistent point scoring. In short, I don't think there is a team on the grid that wouldn't be strengthened by replacing one of their drivers for him.
One thing I am sure they know when dealing with Kimi is that he pretty much holds the cards: he has demonstrated this season that his top form remains intact after two years away. But perhaps more importantly, he won't bend over backwards to get a seat. He already has a WDC, has money to burn and is willing to go race other types of cars if it suits his mood and the situation. In other words, most teams would need him more than he needs them, and the teams that have the most to offer also have the most to lose by bringing in someone who might upstage their incumbent star driver.
No space at Ferrari, he probably does not want to go back to McLaren, Mercedes are happier with Hamilton given the history.
So Renault was his best option.
I do think though there is a good chance of him going to Red Bull in 2014 should Webber not perform in the first half of next year
That's a bit cheeky he's no devil but a pure demon behind the wheel & already this year he has reminded us why he is a great champion. His racing speed is prodigious and his evasive skills are second to none. His micro-second wheel time at Suzuka while on the outside of Hamilton coming of the pits was unreal !-most other drivers would have touched or worse!. Check out this video on YouTube:http://youtu.be/sDnnfizWCm4
Unlike every other driver you can never say he is not fair every single time. & we all know how awesome his overtakes are !
I'm pleased to see Kimi relaxed and happy - hopefully find a bit more quali pace if possible. I really hope 2013 has Lotus making a step forward because they will come under attack from Mercedes and possibly even Williams. I think it will be even tougher than this year. What do you reckon James ?
It was really a no brainer for Kimi to stay at Lotus.
Nevertheless, I'm sure he would have been a good choice for McLaren but then with Perex, the Mexican connection will be worth many millions of extra dollars to them and it would have cost a great deal of cash to buy Kimi out of his obligation to Lotus as the performance clauses were met.
Overall, the difference in the cost to the team between the two drivers would have been very considerable.
Kimi did not like the 35% of the year commitments to sponsors events that Jens has to do in and out of season for McLaren.
BUT : Perez's contract probably doesn't mean they can't replace him any time they want, if Kimi was to be tempted back..... I don't think they are over the moon with nabbing Perez, there was just no better option.
I do agree with the fact that Mclaren were making a knee jerk reaction. My feeling is that they were caught unawares when Lewis confirmed that he was leaving and that left them little choice. However I was more surprised and truly beleive that Nico Hulkenberg can do a better job than Perez in that Mclaren.
The news of his comeback was the best and he has done well. I think he has one more championship in him but doubt it is with Lotus. I hope he goes to Red Bull and leads from pole to flag every weekend and it is really boring.
"His comeback stands in stark contrast to Michael Schumacher who has only managed one podium in his three years back in the sport."
That's a very harsh comparison and one that sounds like from someone who would have us believe all cars are the same so he can take a cheap shot at the legend he actually wrote books about.
How can you compare the front running Lotus this year to the slow and unreliable Mercedes, Schumacher's had this last 3 years? The only time it had any speed was the start of this season and it kept breaking down.
Hilarious! You could reverse your own logic and say that most of "the legend's" first stint in F1 could be disregarded as he had dominiant machinery.
My belief has always been that to win consistently in F1, there must be a great driver with a great car.
Great driver + average car = overall average results. Average driver + great car = overall average results. If either one of these variables is below average/poor, then poor results will be achieved. It never seems to balance out to me, results tend to align with whichever variable is lowest.
Both driver and car are needed to make a winning formula. Although I must admit Alonso has certainly challenged this school of thought this season. But overall and in the long-term, I think it holds true.
You need to brush up on your F1 history. Like every other F1 world champion Schumacher won championships in a dominant car but unlike most other F1 world champions he also won not just races but championships when the car was not regarded as the best.
A dominant car in 3 years out of 20 is hardly most years. (2001,2002 and 2004)
Hence the use of the word "most".
Unreliability in the last race of the year cost him championships in not the best car in 97(broken radiator was why Villeneuve starting catching him),98 and 06.
Best driver on the grid this year in my view!
??? ...The title of this piece is a bit odd, kimi was a cert - he has done an excellent job this year.
Will he get faster, I'm not so sure (you can almost see old father time lurking in the background of his interviews, just waiting for the right time to leap out and turn him into an old man)
He deserves his place on the grid imo but the distance some of you are looking into the future....wow.
Very odd title they put on, could it be because a french speaker is the author perhaps?
In any case this guarantees Sky's subscriptions for next year!!!
I was a big fan of Michael in his heyday. But to me, it's apparent now more than ever, that he came back into the sport from retirement 'primarily' just have fun - maybe even *gasp* to escape boredom.
Meaning he can't possibly have been as determined as Kimi has been thus far to not only be on the podium repeatedly, but to actually attempt to win races. I am convinced that if Schumacher actually had this same depth of determination, he would definitely have had a few victories by now.
Happy for Kimi though. and can't wait to see him back on the top step of the podium!
Was there ever any potential for Raikkonen to take Hamilton's seat at McLaren? Why didn't that conversation ever come up?
it did according to highly rated journalist from Finland, he must had confirmed from kimi during the summer. But kimi had activated the option automatically as he overachieved than those clauses required from him....sad!!
some of Eric Boullier's statements to the media are baffling, to the point of being inept.
- Kimi took a while to come up to speed [NOT TRUE]
- A win this year is not on the cards [DEFEATIST, even if true]
The Hamilton of team principals?
His comeback has been very impressive. He is more consistent and professional than ever! He squeeze the max out of the car every race. His quali pace is still lacking a bit. I suspect he is not super confident pushing the tires or steering not giving him the feedback he likes at quali pace. This brings me to the next point, he did very well learning the new tires, new rules, new car and new team.
Now, it is up to team Lotus to give him the car he needs to win. It is great to have Kimi back in F1. I would love to see more of him on podium. His mono-toned understatements are the best!
Everything was good with Kimi and Lotus. 2 things need improvement:
1. Qualifying pace of Kimi - Imagine what he could have done from Grosjean's position in the starting grid in the initial part of the season. A few victories would have been in his grasp.
2. Lotus strategy has been poor - They do not seem to be imaginative in undercutting or doing something out-of-the box. Granted that they did not want to lose points and end up with nothing in taking up some aggressive strategy, but they should have at least in a couple of positions tried undercutting etc. which they did not. Maybe this conservative strategy allowed them to get points every race, but they surely missed victories and higher point finishes also a few times due to this approach.
But overall a very good result. I hope Kimi can maintain his #3 position by the end of the season as it looks a bit unlikely now with the performance of McLaren and RedBull being better than Lotus. Still it shows that the other three drivers (JB, LH, MW) have been poorer than KR this season as they had a faster car throughout.
I agree but not on the other drivers all being poorer.... Jb had severe set up issues in the first half and although LH is faster, hes not 1 second quicker over a lap. How much of this is team or jbs fault is the difficult part.
LH would have 50+more points just on Spain and Singapore alone, which are team and reliability errors 100%.
Whilst I agree the lotus package with KimI has been brilliant, I don't think its fair to say the drivers have been poor. The mclaren team however have grossly underperformed.
James, given the issues surrounding Lotus Cars, has there been any info on whether they'll remain sponsors next year? Will that have an impact on their second driver? Has there been any rumour on who might take his place?
Perez was nearer the win than Kimi, and Hulk is younger and showing the same consistency than Kimi lately.
I think also that Grosjean has more potential to get a win than Kimi, if he puts all together. So Lotus should confirm Grosjean for 2013, but without a rush, it is good to see him finishing all the remaining races this year.
Pic could have won the Championship by your reasoning. There is a bit of void in that part of "puts all together" - that's actually why we have World Champions, they are able to do it as compare to others.
I think Grosjean will win before Kimi, sorry.
yea, you think. doesnt matter really =)
Lotus should sign Kobayashi - that would give them the most exciting driver lineup in F1!
Not a surprise that many people are still defending Schumy's performance during his three years of comeback. But come on guys, he is not a young man anymore. When people gets old, the reflex is getting slower. Remember the accidents when he hit the back of Bruno's car in Spain and Jean Eric's in Singapore. Slow reflex!
Do you remember when Button and Vettel hit the back of a HRT earlier in the year?
Or when Verge locked his brakes at the start of the last GP?
What about the Sauber drivers at the start of Korea?
Grosjean, Maldanado??
Are they all getting old and loosing their reflexes?
Barry Kallow is planning a return I've just heard.
Soon zimmer frames will be seen speeding up and down the pit lane
According to the Finnish press Kimi was already locked a contract at the Spanish GP, as that is when the clauses of the contract was met. Mclaren was properly never on the cards. But Kimi doesn't rule them out in the future.
But hopefully Lotus can now really start to take a step forward and give Kimi a car that is really capable of atleast fighting for the championship.
I like every bit of this except for one --- I GOTTA PAY SKY AGAIN NEXT YEAR
damn it
I wish I could pay Sky (Region blabla). I can't comprehend with the global coverage F1 have, why we still dont have $5 a month subscription for everyone over internet around the world.
the rights elsewhere make a fortune for bernie and co , no way would he allow it
The difference between Kimi and Schumacher, is that Schumacher has been responsible for a number of crashes and scored less then half the number of points then his team mate. Kimi has scored twice the number of points as his team mate. In F1 the first thing to do is beat your team mate; Schumacher has not done that since his return.
In the past he was the best, and he is a 7 time world champion. But in the past 3 years he has been mediocre and if it were not for his past he would not have kept the car for as long as he did.
It strikes me that James has received a fair amount of vitriol for his suggestion that Kimi Raikkonen's comeback has been more of a success than Michael Schumacher's. Regardless of the relative merits of the cars, the relative quantities of luck, the number of points scored by each driver or the number of podiums achieved, objectively Raikkonen's comeback has been more of a success. That's not a slur on Schumacher. It's just an objective comment. No need to brood over the sacrilegious injustice done to your favourite driver...especially when James' comment was actually only to compare the number of podiums that each driver had achieved. He didn't even subsequently disparage Schumacher, he simply said that the two comebacks were in "stark contrast" to one another. Regardless of any mitigating factors, by comparing podium achievements, James was simply supplying an objective statistic.
As a side point - great news about Kimi... Christian Horner, if you're reading this, put him in a Red Bull in 2014. It'll be the best partnership since Mozart met Da Ponte. Fact.
"James Allen Reply:
October 30th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Exactly. Thanks"
...I'll assume that applies to me too then James...
quite a few people taking James' "stark contrast" comment to mean "schui is a waste of space". Schui's comeback has not exceded, or even reached, expectations. kimis comeback has exceded expectations. both have had good and bad performances, but kimi has impressed more. pretty simple really.
as i was told as a child at school "READ THE QUESTION BEFORE ANSWERING, MAWDSLEY!"
What about Kobayashi?
Any recent paddock talk of him?
Shchumacer was brought back into the sport just to up the image of f1 and to bring back sponsors . lot of people dont even remember this. he was aged and knew that the new generation was catching him better machinery or not.
KImi is a great driver . he was the fastest in his days just like vettel is now. he never makes mistakes and his overtaking skill is second to none. his gretest asset by itself is that. he made some amazing overtakings this year. . tactically renault are slow and hence they lost thee bahrain race. . BUt coming back to the point kimi and schumi cant be compared. schumi is now far too old to be in f1.
What about his little spat with the Lotus engineers over the steering racks? He apparently demanded a different incarnation at every race up to Monaco, which, naturally, angered the engineers.
It seemed to blow over after that, but he made some similar rumbling about the failed DDRS adventure.
I get the feeling that Kimi can be a bit diva-ish with the technical team. And for some reason, I don't see him staying at Lotus for years (prob to RB to replace Seb in 2014).
Ridiculous comment.
I always find this funny that when Kimi does not demand much from technical team which was what pointed out as a drawback in his Ferrari years, he is branded as lacking motivation. When the same driver demands exactly what he wants, he is branded as petulant, lacking adjustment capabilities etc. I think Kimi tried his best to change the steering wheel and then he stopped making fuss perhaps he began like it or just gave it up as something that cannot be changed after few races of his voicing concern. What more could he do so that he would be seen as a driver that is giving the right feedback without being stubborn or diva-ish? I'm sure if Alonso does the same, people will write saying what a thorough professional he is! I remember media jumped on to this issue and someone started this ridiculous rumor (Villeneuve?)that Lotus would like to replace Kimi in mid-season. Any sane brain would not come to that conclusion and this idea was accepted by some media people shows what kind of IQ they have. No wonder Kimi hates giving interviews because he knows what b-s some media write.
Average driver finish position:
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Vettel: 5.47
Alonso: 5.71
Webber: 6.06
Lewis: 7.47
Massa: 9.12
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I would like this to get the WDC rather than points.
Good one.
I agree with you on who the best driver has been this year; and your numbers show it.
Kimi is the best driver in the world right now, bar none.
There was all of this talk at the end of the 2012 Indian GP weekend about how Alonso did such a great job, and how all of the experts would like to see Alonso in the same car as Vettel, and then he'd really show them.
I say, let's see Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton and Kimi in the same car, with which each of them has the same experience.
If Kimi had been in this 2012 McLaren, or Red Bull or Ferrari, he would have already won the championship.
Well, if he can't take it this year, then next year; 2012 WC would suit him somehow.
That's quite the claim.
A driver who was ousted from the sport; tried and failed at WRC; comes back to much fanfare, only to reveal that he seems to have forgotten how to pass. He also seems to be unable to come to terms with the DRS zones - how many times has he been repassed on an outlap in the DRS zone?
Kimi is in a fast, reliable car, but takes no chances (beyond one hopeless attempt to pass on the outside per race - he should have won Bahrain). He trundles around and finishes mid-points. Top marks.
As previously stated, KGBVD...
I write following the Abu Dhabi GP, and I have to admit, after all your banter, I was pleased to see Kimi on the top step and Vettel and Alonso below.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm very pleased to see Kimi win; it just unfortunately proved two of my points.
Firstly, that he can't pass anymore. Was that ANOTHER failed, half-hearted attempt to pass on the outside during the race? Even DC picked up on that.
Secondly, by some freak coincidence, Kimi once again benefited from Hamilton dropping out. If he didn't this would have been another Bahrain.
If he put in a blinder of a drive from, say, the back of the grid to, say, the podium, then yes, it would be hugely commendable and I would have to eat my words.
As it stands, Kimi was the 4th fastest driver on Sunday, and lucked into the win (if the race was 2 laps longer, he wouldn't have). Good for him though!
your comment is ridiculously out of context and seemingly regardless of the machinery and team realities at the moment.
How many years was Kimi in a Ferrari before he won?
Did not Alonso have the same kind of superiority in machinery, as Vettel does now, during his world championship winning years, at Renault?
There is no reasonable denying Alonso`s vaunted team management capability, neither his in-car determination and capability.
However, until we see him head-to-head in the identical machinery as Kimi, without a `team-advantage`on either side, then no one is going to ever know who would win a straight fight; neither you, nor I.
However, until that day, you are welcome to your opinion (I can see by your comments that you are not a great fan of Kimi - good for you), and I am welcome to mine.
Kimi rules!
All your writing won`t change my mind, no need to keep on trying.
Out I'm context I'm not too sure about. It has been this year that Kimi has failed to understand the strategy behind DRS, and that it is better to attempt a pass on the inside (or even that, if you're lucky, MAYBE you can try MORE than once to pass someone).
By your standards, the only thing that Kimi has proven is that he's better than Grosjean. Before that, we can deduce that he is worse than Massa (which no one could possibly believe-- so a reliance on a 'equal machinery' comparison tell you nothing).
You can argue that Kimi's 1st place in '07 and 3rd place this year are essentially down to Hamilton screwing up. I haven't seen anything special, particularly since RG is picking up podiums too (when not bouncing off other). He wouldn't be third if a few other drivers stopped driving like morons.
That Kimi never had dominant machinery MIGHT just be down to the driver's inability to express that dominance. Not all drivers can: Webber looks like a shadow compared to his teammate and Rubens could never do it in either a Ferrari or a Brawn.
Kimi is good, and I like him quite a bit. But 'the best in the world' he is not (THAT is Loeb, without question); he's not even the best in F1 this year.
Best thing about this news, is that we get to see Kimi racing for another year 🙂
From the title 'devil you know' are we to assume that is how you view Kimi.
'Man of Mischief', rebel etc, I think Kimi was let down by Mclaren from 2003- 2006(4 seasons) which has made him the kind of person he is(Am I bothered, Cath Tate) .
His recent statement on his Qualifying in Suzuka tells all when he states he doesn't care if he ruined other drivers hot laps. But Im sure we all know the essence of the statement is 'crying over spilt milk'.
So I feel empathy for Kimi when commentators poke fun at him. Though i agree, he does like to odd drink.
@KGBVD. I think you have amnesia. Because you forgot the 2005 Suzuka where Kimi started from 17th then won. And how about his overtake in Spa against MS?
And when LH's car failed in Abu Dhabi, why is Kimi the one who inherited the lead? Of all the drivers, it was Kimi. Was it luck?


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I am trying to fix a surround sound receiver for my wife's hair salon. Its been giving her problems where the power indication light is on, but the rest of the receiver won't get power. I opened it up and secured the connection that connects the power button assembly (I am 100% in the dark on technical terms as I figure this stuff out on my own) to the board. It turns out the connection was loosened from the board itself. What's happened is a portion of the board (on the green side) has lifted off the rest of the board, as if too much pressure was applied to the component from the opposite side. I hope I am being clear. The green part of the board (which is a lighter green than most of the board) has lifted off, revealing the brown beneath. How can I repair this? Thank you. Sam |
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