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Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:08 PM
octoberlib (6,743 posts)
Pabst Owner Metropoulos Considers Bid for Hostess Brands
Source: Bloomberg
C. Dean Metropoulos & Co., the private equity firm that owns Pabst Brewing Co., is considering an offer to buy Hostess Brands Inc., which said today it plans to liquidate its business. Our family would love to purchase these iconic brands, said Daren Metropoulos, a principal at the Greenwich, Connecticut-based firm, which paid $250 million for Pabst in 2010. We are actively pursuing this deal as no doubt strategics will also. C. Dean Metropoulos, founder of the firm, has specialized in purchasing struggling brands, such as Chef Boyardee and Bumble Bee Tuna and turning them around. The firm paid close attention to the maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread during its bankruptcy proceedings, Daren Metropoulos has said. We have analyzed this opportunity very carefully for a few years now, Metropoulos said in an e-mail. Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive. The 82-year-old company also makes Hostess CupCakes, Ding Dongs and Ho Hos. The private equity firm is fully prepared to participate in any process involving selling the brands, Daren Metropoulos said. Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/pabst-owner-metropoulos-is-considering-bid-for-hostess-brands.html
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Pabst Owner Metropoulos Considers Bid for Hostess Brands (Original post) |
octoberlib | Nov 2012 | OP |
backscatter712 | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
octoberlib | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
Chipper Chat | Nov 2012 | #78 | |
LTR | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
MADem | Nov 2012 | #41 | |
Enrique | Nov 2012 | #76 | |
AlecBGreen | Nov 2012 | #66 | |
Enrique | Nov 2012 | #77 | |
jmowreader | Nov 2012 | #92 | |
AlecBGreen | Nov 2012 | #93 | |
MynameisBlarney | Nov 2012 | #102 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Nov 2012 | #107 | |
olddad56 | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
Kablooie | Nov 2012 | #83 | |
Eagle_Eye | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
thelordofhell | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
Eagle_Eye | Nov 2012 | #61 | |
niyad | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
glinda | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #42 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #45 | |
Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #46 | |
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Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #49 | |
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Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #52 | |
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Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #65 | |
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Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #82 | |
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cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #88 | |
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Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #105 | |
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Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #108 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #109 | |
Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #110 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #111 | |
smccarter | Nov 2012 | #84 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #90 | |
Katashi_itto | Nov 2012 | #60 | |
eggplant | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
Ash_F | Nov 2012 | #51 | |
hexola | Nov 2012 | #63 | |
Rosa Luxemburg | Nov 2012 | #75 | |
MynameisBlarney | Nov 2012 | #103 | |
myrna minx | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
crunch60 | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
hexola | Nov 2012 | #64 | |
svpadgham | Nov 2012 | #67 | |
theHandpuppet | Nov 2012 | #72 | |
high density | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
crunch60 | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
femrap | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
Divine Discontent | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
femrap | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
Divine Discontent | Nov 2012 | #57 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
femrap | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
myrna minx | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
crunch60 | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
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femrap | Nov 2012 | #53 | |
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kestrel91316 | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
bluedigger | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
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cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
AdHocSolver | Nov 2012 | #43 | |
cstanleytech | Nov 2012 | #44 | |
Teamster Jeff | Nov 2012 | #69 | |
WinniSkipper | Nov 2012 | #70 | |
Teamster Jeff | Nov 2012 | #74 | |
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DonCoquixote | Nov 2012 | #80 | |
Blue Owl | Nov 2012 | #38 | |
Beacool | Nov 2012 | #39 | |
Ed Suspicious | Nov 2012 | #40 | |
mulsh | Nov 2012 | #47 | |
hexola | Nov 2012 | #56 | |
Cirque du So-What | Nov 2012 | #54 | |
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:10 PM
backscatter712 (24,948 posts)
1. PBR and Twinkies - two great tastes that go great together!
Especially considering that PBR is the Twinkies of beer!
Response to backscatter712 (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:12 PM
octoberlib (6,743 posts)
2. I know, right? I thought the same thing nt
Response to octoberlib (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:18 PM
Chipper Chat (6,395 posts)
78. Ha Ha. I remember those days well. CIrca 1966.
PBR & Twinkies. Fishing with a bunch of guys; After a weenie-roast; dirty hands and all.
Response to backscatter712 (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:17 PM
LTR (13,227 posts)
6. Undrinkable beer targeted to hipsters
Because they're the only ones stupid enough to drink it.
Although, to their credit, they did reintroduce the 60s formula Schlitz Gusto, so they get a big thumbs up from me. |
Response to LTR (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:21 PM
MADem (135,102 posts)
41. Hipsters? Times have changed!!
Response to MADem (Reply #41)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:06 PM
Enrique (27,461 posts)
76. does that guy do any songs about Twinkies?
Response to LTR (Reply #6)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:39 AM
AlecBGreen (3,874 posts)
66. eeek!
I love good beer just as much as the next guy (GOOOD beer, not supermarket "good" beer like Heineken) and PBR is my go-to beer. $7 a 12 pack is hard to beat and its far better than High Life, Keystone, etc.
Response to AlecBGreen (Reply #66)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:10 PM
Enrique (27,461 posts)
77. so you don't like Heineken, and you do like PBR...
Response to Enrique (Reply #77)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:27 AM
jmowreader (35,486 posts)
92. Let me tell you about Heineken
Heineken is shipped from Holland in unrefrigerated containers. It is stored in an unrefrigerated warehouse, hauled in dry vans to destination, and sold in green bottles. In the US it is the world's skunkiest beer.
PBR is at least fresh. |
Response to Enrique (Reply #77)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:39 AM
AlecBGreen (3,874 posts)
93. Heineken is drinkable
The meaning I was trying to convey is that I really really REALLY like good beer. Stone, Rogue, Anderson Valley, Youngs, Lagunitas(!), etc. Even so, since I cant afford to drink $3 bottles of beer all day, Ill take PBR. Its far better than most 'cheap' beers like Coors, Bud, Keystone, Miller, etc.
Response to AlecBGreen (Reply #66)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:34 PM
MynameisBlarney (2,979 posts)
I'm drinking PBR right now, lol
Response to AlecBGreen (Reply #66)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:51 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (11,399 posts)
107. 18-packs of PBR were on sale at the Rite Aid last week
for $9.99. Sadly, not a one was to be found. I tried two different Rite Aids several times. Sometimes, life is not fair.
Response to backscatter712 (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:56 PM
olddad56 (5,269 posts)
32. maybe they buy the right to the Twinkie and change thename of the beer to Pabst Blue Twinkie Beer.
Response to backscatter712 (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
Kablooie (12,497 posts)
83. They are great to dunk. Mmm.
Wet soggy Twinkies in flat, tasteless beer.
What could be better! Yum! |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:15 PM
Eagle_Eye (1,439 posts)
3. My red neck, white socks, and Blue Ribbon ... Ding Dongs!
Sorry Johnny Russell, but it was too good to pass up.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:15 PM
thelordofhell (4,569 posts)
4. Bumble Bee Tuna sandwich for lunch, Chef Boyardee Ravioli for dinner, PBR to wash it all down
Now including a Twinkie for dessert........they're a Jimmy Dean Sausage away from ruining a whole day of food.............
Response to thelordofhell (Reply #4)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:00 AM
Eagle_Eye (1,439 posts)
61. Fried egg sandwich on white bread, and wash it down with a PBR
That is a good redneck breakfast.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:16 PM
niyad (55,187 posts)
5. Shedding the complications of the unions . . "
that said everything we need to know right there. I have, in the past, enjoyed a cupcake or two, but never again.
Response to niyad (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:23 PM
glinda (14,807 posts)
8. Well how convenient.
Response to niyad (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:33 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
12. I cannot blame Pabst for making a business decision.
Sure, it will suck for the workers but that doesnt mean a new union cannot form eventually and maybe it will be a better union than the one that decided to play chicken and torpedo Hostess.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:12 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
22. What a bunch of bull in your post
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:35 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
26. How so? Pabst isnt the one that forced Hostess under is it?
If they did then I apologize to you but before I issue such an apology I am going to have to demand you produce evidence that showes it was the fault of Pabst.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #26)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:39 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
42. It is not the Pabst part of your post that is bull It is the last part.
Then you should have no problem producing evidence that the union was playing chicken torpedoed Hostess.
Unless you feel that people wanting a decent wage with benefits is playing chicken. You are running a company and it goes into bankruptcy and you ask the unions to give back a little, they do. In the course of time the company goes through 6 management changes and the current management are hedge funds and a Wall Street investment group that has put on enormous debt. None of which know anything about the baking industry. You go into bankruptcy again and you ask the union to once again give back, wages, pensions, pay more for health care. The people, 92%, say no. Meantime, under bankruptcy, the company because it is being run so well decides to give the CEO a pay increase from $750,000 to $2.5 million. The next 9 execs also get pay raises, they are not making as much nor do they get as much percentage in pay raises. But they get raises. And you can bet your ass that the execs were not asked to give up their pensions nor pay more into their health care plan. I was a baker, I belonged to that union, I negotiated union contracts. If anything you owe a HUGE apology to unions. I might even go as far as to tell you to start a new post with your apology. Unions are the reason why the middle-class ever existed. With out them you will have no middle-class. They are the backbone of the Democratic party. If you do not feel this way I am wondering why you are on this board and why you are a democrat. |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #42)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:22 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
45. That part is based purely on what I have read which is that
Hostess tried to strike a deal and the unions said no to it and thats purely the facts of what has been reported in the news, if you can refute those facts with something else other than conjecture over why it happened then please do so and as for me being a democrat....I find it interesting that you are using a very similar tactic practiced by the more conservative republicans against their more moderate brethren.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #45)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:27 AM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
46. What part of my post was conjecture??
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #46)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:51 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
48. My bad, how about we replace conjecture with innuendo?
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #48)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:58 AM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
49. Then what part of my post was innuendo??
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #49)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:14 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
50. How about we start with where you said
"If you do not feel this way I am wondering why you are on this board and why you are a democrat." and work back from there?
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #50)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:19 AM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
52. How about we start at the beginning of my post and work our way to the end??
Because everything before leads into the end ...........
But you are free to address why you do not feel this way |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #52)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:11 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
62. We we can if we ignore that the question you asked was "Then what part of my post was innuendo??"
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #62)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:30 AM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
65. You were complaining because you needed more facts
I gave you more facts and you refuse to talk about these facts.
' and maybe it will be a better union than the one that decided to play chicken and torpedo Hostess.'Do you still hold this opinion after receiving more facts?? I find this a strange opinion for a democrat to hold .............. Let's discuss why you would believe this |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #65)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:08 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
71. No, I was pointing out that we lack access to things like say internal emails that prove that this
was their plan, you were the one that threw the innuendo in not me at the end just because I refuse to automatically take your word or anyones word that x event has happened without anything to back it up.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #71)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:38 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
73. But you had no problem saying that the workers torpedoed the company
without any facts to back it up , but I guess in your world that is okay
because workers should just work for whatever the company is willing to pay them because they should just be happy to have a job Now if you want you could respond to the information that I provided to you ....... |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #73)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:57 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
81. Actually I am willing to amend that part somewhat.
The fact is it was only some of the workers who rejected the offer so only some of the workers torpedoed it or are we now pretending the union didnt reject the offer after being warned the company would be forced into declaring bankruptcy if they rejected it?
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #81)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
82. 92% rejected it
I see you have limited reading comprehension
I gave you all kinds of facts and you did not bother reading them I will repeat some of them: They are already in bankruptcy They gave their top execs 200-300% pay raises WHILE they are in bankruptcy So if they can do this then how do they justify asking the workers for money back?? The workers had already given back to the company during the last bankruptcy Six changes of management in the last 8 years Company added $900 million in debt Workers can not torpedo a company I can see by your words that you feel that the company was being well run and would not go out of business if it was not for the workers just trying to keep their same pay and benefits. Not getting a raise but just to keep what they had. Would you like it if you had your pay cut twice, lose your pension, and pay more into your health insurance?? It would be nice if you started answering the questions put to you instead of throwing other things out there. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #81)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:43 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
85. Maybe you should read this
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #85)
cstanleytech This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #85)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:07 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
91. See my reply to smccarter then. nt
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #91)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:02 AM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
94. I read it and you did not address my questions .... now would be a good time
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #94)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:16 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
96. You mean the question you started by maturely insulting me? Well gee I wonder why
I might have ignored it.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #96)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:28 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
97. I mean the other ones
and you did not even bother answering that one either
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #97)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:37 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
100. Link it then and I will give it a shot assuming its an actual question and not just more opinion.
Edit: And assuming I havent answered it already in this thread of course.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #100)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:47 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
101. You can look through the thread and answer the questions as asked
You have not answered anything
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #101)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:20 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
104. You were the one that claimed I avoided answering a question so please have
the common courtesy to link to which one you are referring to specifically.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #104)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:08 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
105. Start with post #42 and go from there
You accuse me of making statements that I did not make.
I asked numerous questions throughout my posts and you fail to answer them You make a complaint and I ask you where and then you change the complaint ... you even failed to answer why you are here if you do not support unions On and on the questions were asked and you did not answer So answer them now ............ |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #105)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:31 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
106. I asked you for evidence though, you provided opinion pieces that had alot of speculation instead.
And I skimmed a bit from 42 to try and find it but I refuse to reread every post of yours because you claim I didnt answer a question, so please have the decency to post a link what the freaking question is that I allegedly didnt answer.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #106)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:02 PM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
108. I listed facts ...... not my opinion
If you do not like the facts I listed then have the decency to refute them
You accused me of blaming Pabst ............ I never did ........ You refused to answer a lot of questions I don't feel I should have to point them out to you because YOU refused to answer them as they were asked....... You accused the union of torpedoing Hostess ........ I wonder what you base this opinion on Do you feel workers should work for and wage and benefits a company feels is fair in their minds?? |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #108)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:23 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
109. It appeared to me that you were blaming Pabst but maybe I misunderstood in
which case I apologize to you for that.
As for not answering a lot of questions, I finally reviewed more of your posts to me and maybe I am wrong but I did not see a single question that I failed to answer before you started with the insults around post #82, if I am mistaken about that please point it out to me. And one of the unions did torpedo Hostess or atleast thats what Hostess is claiming and furthermore we have been over that already and that isnt an opinion its a fact that one of the unions did say no to the deal Hostess offered, a deal which if I recall the other unions took. "Do you feel workers should work for any wage and benefits a company feels is fair in their minds??" Thats not the topic here, I will try to answer it though. No, the unions should fight hard to get the workers the best deal possible. Was the deal hostess made a good one? I do not know, what I do know though is the other unions involved accepted it so they must have thought it was fair which makes me wonder if Hostess was offering the same deal offered to all of the unions or if the bakers union got the short end of the stick when it came to the deal Hostess offered them. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #109)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:18 AM
Angry Dragon (29,285 posts)
110. How about we start over??
Pabst has nothing to do with where Hostess finds itsself today.
One union group of workers did reject the company offer by 92% This sub-thread started out by me questioning your use of the term 'one of the unions did torpedo Hostess' I worked in a bakery for 20 years, I belonged to that same union during that time, I served on 5 contract negioations, I was a shop stewart for about 13 years. One must understand that the International Union represents the workers. They do not control them. I have seen Unions do stupid things and good things. So I am open to seeing a Union from both sides. To blame the workers one must know that they were asking for too much. I do not know what the offer was, but to the workers it was too much of a giveback. I saw the Hostess value put at $950million to $980million. Hostess is carrying $850million to $900million in debt. That is NOT good management. To ask for givebacks and the workers to accept them the workers need to trust management. The workers have seen how the company is being run and the workers found no trust. The management has changed 6 times over the last 10 years. Giving management pay raises when going into bankruptcy is not a good management decision. And I do question someone that just takes management explanation for the downfall of a company. As far as your last paraghaph, that is the topic. I have seen companies offer different union workers different packages. If you do not know the facts such a statement as 'torpedo' is offensive to union workers. To make such a statement you need to put yourself in their place and look at the history. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/16/1203151/why-unions-dont-shoulder-the-blame-for-hostesss-downfall/?mobile=nc BCTGM members are well aware that as the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000 and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256. And this is not the only article questioning Hostess blaming the union workers |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #110)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:50 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
111. I do agree completely that the raises they got made no fiscal sense for a company
complaining that its going under and wanting to cut the other workers pay.
If one branch takes a cut in pay they all should take a cut. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #45)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:17 PM
smccarter (145 posts)
84. Here ya go
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/gregory-rayburn-raise_n_2147043.html http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/16/1203151/why-unions-dont-shoulder-the-blame-for-hostesss-downfall/?mobile=nc http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaineolen/2012/11/16/who-killed-hostess-brands-and-twinkies/ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304072004577323993512506050.html I could go on.. It's very simple... I just used "the google".. as they say... to get these links. There are many many more. |
Response to smccarter (Reply #84)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:06 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
90. I clicked it so what part of it do you want me to focus on?
The part where it says that Hostess may have done this on purpose? If your answer is yes then a little news flash for you, I already said in this thread on other posts and even in other threads before this one days ago that its possible that they may have done that.
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #42)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:55 AM
Katashi_itto (10,175 posts)
60. +1000
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:40 PM
eggplant (2,927 posts)
27. The union didn't cause this. They are just a handy scapegoat. n/t
Response to eggplant (Reply #27)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:46 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
30. I will repost part of a question I posted a few days ago over this thing for you or
atleast part of it and that is...............the real question here is are the Hostess claims legit or not? If not then of course the union should fight for there workers however if the problems Hostess is facing are legit and not the fault of criminal activity nor them trying to screw the employees then what do you want them (Hostess) to do exactly?
Now, I personally do not have access to the internal books of Hostess so I do not know if they did this was the intent of screwing the workers, if you or someone else has such evidence then please by all means post it but until then I have to base my current opinion on the few facts I have. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:18 AM
Ash_F (5,861 posts)
51. All indications were that Hostess was going under anyway.
Those final negotiations were to see how much they could milk the workers for before going down. Don't buy into the right wing meme.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:18 AM
hexola (3,397 posts)
63. You're assuming they are selling brick and mortar assets...these are just brands/products...
Pabst is still a union made beer...
You can't assume the next shop to produce these brands wont be union... And you can't assume they will be made in the same places... I think the point is - unions have to compete with each other too... |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:59 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,622 posts)
75. que?
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #12)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:36 PM
MynameisBlarney (2,979 posts)
103. The union had nothing to do with it
it was the execs
Response to niyad (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:37 PM
myrna minx (22,748 posts)
15. Yep , this is what it's all about - vulture capitalism in it's bare form.
Response to niyad (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:27 PM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
23. Just a new paint job..minus the union, less benefits for workers, more $$ for CEO's
some rescue.
Response to crunch60 (Reply #23)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:20 AM
hexola (3,397 posts)
64. Pabst is still union
Scratch that theory...
Response to hexola (Reply #64)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:04 AM
svpadgham (659 posts)
67. Says it right on the can.
Yet, somehow it's affordable. Wonder of wonders.
Response to niyad (Reply #5)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
theHandpuppet (19,964 posts)
72. Yeah, I caught that, too
That pretty well ended my optimism right there. My only concern was for the workers who will lose their jobs. Maybe they can get hired back for a quarter an hour.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:18 PM
high density (13,397 posts)
7. Private equity... I'm sure that will end well
I guess there must be a few more billions left to still wring out of what's left of Hostess.
Response to high density (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:30 PM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
24. It's the new bankruptcy scam. Well not so new, Romney has been doing it for quite a while.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:25 PM
femrap (13,418 posts)
9. This just makes me sick!
Look at this:
We have analyzed this opportunity very carefully for a few years now, Metropoulos said in an e-mail. Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive. I started thinking about Wall Street....I guess they no longer do M & A (Mergers and Acquisitions). Instead they load the target company with debt, management takes huge fees and salaries, then the company is forced to file bankruptcy so the New Buyer can buy the assets for pennies on the dollar and shed the UNION. I wonder what the Wall St. Boyz call this particular biz model? Robbery? Getting rid of the UNION is what these business boyz think is just fun...a great benefit of filing bankruptcy. I just heard a woman who is on the strike line at Hostess...she had worked there for over 30 years. She said the current offer from management was no pension, less pay, and pay more for health care. She said, we would basically be working for minimum wage. |
Response to femrap (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:35 PM
Divine Discontent (21,049 posts)
13. Less pay, higher health costs, no pension - and yet - tons of idiots on yahoo/aol/local news sites..
have the NERVE to attack the workers! what bullshit!
the rich have enough - I sure wish a rich progressive, and there's thousands of them, would buy these companies. |
Response to Divine Discontent (Reply #13)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:48 PM
femrap (13,418 posts)
19. I had to
give a link to a DU poster cuz he/she thinks what I say is
Bain and other private equity firms have been doing this for toooooooooooooo long. These biz practices should be outlawed. |
Response to femrap (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:25 AM
Divine Discontent (21,049 posts)
57. yes! too many don't believe this is perfectly legal, and incredibly sleazy! How long before Mitt
is back at this game again? He could be making tens of millions per deal doing this, especially with his name now and quarter billion, there's no leveraged buyout he couldn't get approval for a loan from a bank, using the victim company's own value!
ugh! we're being eaten alive, and too many blame the workers who are having their legs and arms chewed off by the sharks! |
Response to femrap (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:37 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
16. femrap, can you support that though with numbers?
I mean sure if you have proof that Hostess was lying through their teeth about their debt and or say some emails showing that was the plan all along then great, if not though its dangerously close to the area.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:45 PM
femrap (13,418 posts)
18. I suggest you
read the recent article in Newsweek from David Stockman...this explains the biz model of Bain and their buddies (private equity firms).
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-the-bain-drain.html Hostess is not a publicly traded company so I can't look at the balance sheet or anything else. All I see is that they are loaded w/ $860 million of debt. M & A, I guess, is a quaint business model of yore. After reading Stockman, you be sick as well...and that you tell me that I'm is No one wants to see The Truth....it just hurts too damn bad. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:55 PM
myrna minx (22,748 posts)
21. In addition to femrap's post, may I provide:
Yes, union busting, by vulture capitalists is tin foil. http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/hostess-has-a-lot-of-debt-but-few-in-finance/ IN DEBT January 13, 2012, 2:12 pm4 Comments Hostess Has a Lot of Debt, but Few in Finance BY STEPHEN J. LUBBEN Tim Boyle/Getty Images Hostess Brands is back in bankruptcy again, arguing that its last filing did not really accomplish all that much, despite taking a rather long time. In particular, the company has more than $850 million of secured debt outstanding. It has more than $180 million in accrued workers compensation liabilities. Another $50 million to $60 million is outstanding to trade creditors, plus $36 million in lease obligations. And now it is going to lay a $75 million debtor-in-possession loan on top of that to provide additional cash. All this from a company with assets of just over $980 million. |
Response to myrna minx (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:30 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
25. The problem which you are ignoring is
my original question of "can you support that though with numbers".
Edit: and by numbers I mean their own internal books and or emails regarding the companies complete finances. Dont get me wrong please, I am not saying that you are wrong but rather that the fact is that without any evidence to prove otherwise its just speculation that the company did this all to bust the union. |
Response to femrap (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:42 PM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
29. Big companies have been "softening" up workers over the years, to accept less and less
in the way of pay and benefits. So now the vulture capitalists are swooping in, declaring bankruptcy, restructuring , and the company rehires staff with all the wonderful pay and benefits of Walmart. wop te do! O boy, I got a job, doesn't pay the bills or feed my family, but hey, I got a job.
And our owners are getting richer. |
Response to crunch60 (Reply #29)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:10 PM
Cynicus Emeritus (172 posts)
37. Many times taxpayers are rewarding them with economic development dollars
just to open their plant and do what capitalists do. The system has become tainted and corrupt to the benefit of certain specially connected cronies.
Response to crunch60 (Reply #29)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:30 AM
femrap (13,418 posts)
53. There was a
study I read about lately where if one starts to get a negative return on their efforts, they walk away.
So if you have a shit job, do you eventually sabotage the employer in certain ways? Bad service. Destroyed product...oops dropped the box. Screwing with the computer system is fun. I'm glad we're seeing certain Walmart employees walking out! And they are organizing for another walk out on Black Friday. Believe me, employees are not soft....they're insulted, and some are desperate. |
Response to femrap (Reply #53)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:03 AM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
59. Read my post carefully, I did not say employees are soft . It has taken a while for
people to get a clue what these large corporations were doing to them , giving them the royal shaft. Glad the Walmart employees are walking out.
Response to crunch60 (Reply #59)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:58 AM
femrap (13,418 posts)
86. I understand your point....
it has taken a while for workers to realize how badly they have been treated. I believe the OWS Movement opened the eyes of many to that horrible treatment.
Hopefully the workers around the world will recognize how badly they have been treated and WALK OUT. I think of the workers in China working 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, and living in small dormitory rooms with 3 beds/room. If the US hadn't had a Union Movement, we would be in the same dire straits. May the Rich choke on their dollars, yuan, and euros. |
Response to femrap (Reply #86)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:57 AM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
89. That's what I mean, little by little so we didn't notice, OWS is our hope for positive change,
especially for the up and coming young generation who are tomorrow's leaders. Never again be fooled by junk journalism, lot's of junk toys, the frivolous garbage of a consumer society. Overdosed and overstimulated and didn't realize what was hitting us. Yes, OWS has brought many people together. For the first time in a long time, people were communicating on a grand scale, face to face, that made a huge impact on the message they shared.
This video, China Blue, would be us in a Romney world, or so he would like. I cannot look at Walmart, Target, Kmart clothing, without thinking of these workers. I choose my clothes and products carefully, make in America whenever possible. I excel at recycling. lol |
Response to crunch60 (Reply #89)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:29 PM
femrap (13,418 posts)
98. Everyone should have to watch this
video. The Boss is a real piece of work. I'll name him Mi$$.
I stopped buying things made in China back in 1989 when Tiennamenn Square (sp?) occurred. Occasionally, I have to buy something such as a fan since China is the only country that makes them. I always look at Country of Origin labels. I know where everything is made and I can spot trends as to movement of products from country to country. Sure am glad I bought a boatload of socks and shoes before manufacturing was shipped to China. I saw that coming. Now, I'm to the point that I don't need anything except food and basics. In fact, I've been trying to sell things at the local Thrift Store and Consignment stores. I recycle as well...that's the least I can do for Mother Nature. It's amazing how little trash I have. |
Response to femrap (Reply #98)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:10 PM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
99. The young female worker said in one hour, she can make 1/2 yen=.06. Terrible
working conditions, basically, slave labor. Out of sight, out of mind, do we care? I do. I do not buy made in China because of these abuses.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:31 PM
Divine Discontent (21,049 posts)
10. Private equity firm that owns Pabst Blue Ribbon brewing wants to buy Hostess? wonderful.... not!
Response to Divine Discontent (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:49 PM
femrap (13,418 posts)
20. Thanks for
the laugh!
Response to femrap (Reply #20)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:27 AM
Divine Discontent (21,049 posts)
58. ha! thanks. had to make it.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:32 PM
obamanut2012 (12,521 posts)
11. Twinkies will suddenly become ironic
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:35 PM
kestrel91316 (51,666 posts)
14. When I was a kid, our BIG treat was once a week when, on Friday nights, our family would
gather down in the family room to watch Star Trek (first run!) and have a snack of Pepsi and Ding Dongs. Sometimes it would be popcorn instead, but I REALLY loved the Ding Dongs!
My personal Hostess favorite is the chocolate cupcakes, though. I have only eaten them once in the past 25 years or so, because I don't eat much junk food anymore. So for sentimental reasons (and to preserve American jobs) I would like to see the company bought and kept running rather than shut down. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:44 PM
bluedigger (14,874 posts)
17. I think we all know how this ends.
Response to bluedigger (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:40 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
28. I believe your post about sums it all up.
It really makes me sad to think of how the average person who worked hard for the company for years now will be the one getting screwed where as those on the higher corporate level will probably never have to pay for their decisions.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #28)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:06 PM
Cynicus Emeritus (172 posts)
35. Employees have invested their lives
Most of the others are short timers that invested a few bucks and because they own the club they will get rich, and the employees and taxpayers will get the shaft. OWS is needed more than ever but the PTB was afraid of them and thus un-Constitutionally made their demonstrations illegal.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:50 PM
Dr_Scholl (212 posts)
31. I hope someone saves these brands
It would be a shame to see them go.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Fearless (18,417 posts)
33. Shedding the complications of the unions"
Fuck them. I'll never buy their stuff again.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:02 PM
Cynicus Emeritus (172 posts)
34. This is what the CEO and banksters had in mind
from day one imho. Force the union to go on strike and then claim it must go into bankruptcy. Edited to add: Actually they made crappy unheathy products and on purpose too. They didn't keep up with what the public wants. The employees only did what they were told.
These greedy thieving bxstards wanted deals, and to break the unions and to force the costs on to taxpayers. If the USA could just deport/outsource the Wall St financial sector to China the USA would be better served. They connive on ways to make money while doing nothing that is productive or beneficial except to those in their own little club. |
Response to Cynicus Emeritus (Reply #34)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:06 PM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
36. Thats certainly possible Cynicus but without access to all the emails
from and to the ceo we will never ever know for sure.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #36)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:59 PM
AdHocSolver (2,561 posts)
43. If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it is unlikely to be a turtle. nt
Response to AdHocSolver (Reply #43)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:15 AM
cstanleytech (13,655 posts)
44. Unless of course its hunting season in which cause it might be unwise to assume its a duck
as other ducks find out much to late.
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #36)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:27 AM
Teamster Jeff (1,598 posts)
69. Where have you been for the last 20 years?
This is SOP for US business. Fuck your "e mails" from the CEO. Go back to your cubicle
Response to Teamster Jeff (Reply #69)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:04 PM
WinniSkipper (363 posts)
70. Do you think the Teamsters were wrong to agree to the contract?
It doesn't sound like they were in agreement with the Bakers union. Not a wise-ass question - but would really like to know
Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #70)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:56 PM
Teamster Jeff (1,598 posts)
74. A majority of the Teamster members voted for it so it not wrong
As far as what concessions they gave I don't know the details. I read that the Teamsters position on the Bakers strike was that the Bakers should sign but that wasn't for the Teamsters to decide. It's not unusual for different Unions or even different Locals of the same Union to disagree about things and play politics. It was a messy situation that was going to end badly for all the workers in the long run anyway so its not surprising that there was some frustration and bitterness.
Response to Teamster Jeff (Reply #74)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:53 AM
WinniSkipper (363 posts)
87. Agree
This was not going to end well either way.
Response to Cynicus Emeritus (Reply #34)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:46 PM
DonCoquixote (11,950 posts)
80. I agree
This is the EXACT SAME PLAN THEY HAD FOR GM..
I am surprised no one has compared the two yet. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:12 PM
Blue Owl (13,326 posts)
38. The hipster ho-ho crowd will be pleased
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:13 PM
Beacool (29,506 posts)
39. Yes, save my Wonder Smart!!!!
Hmmm, I wonder how long bread will survive in the freezer. I may need to stockpile some loaves.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:15 PM
Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)
40. ehhh. Fuck.... you....
Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:28 AM
mulsh (2,520 posts)
47. Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive.
wrote Mr. Metopoulos. guess its ok if another union busting business purchases Hostess once the workers have been thoroughly damaged. Or did I miss the part where he talks about bargaining in good faith with the baker's unioin?
Response to mulsh (Reply #47)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:21 AM
hexola (3,397 posts)
56. But - as far as I can tell, Pabst is still a union made beer...
So - not sure that comment should be taken to mean "we dont have to deal with the unions"
More like - this is a "new deal"...the complications were with the old business vs the union. If the brands are sold - and the production moved to new/different plants...then they will have, effectively, left the old union issues behind. But - that doesn't mean they wont have to deal with unions...just not these unions. |
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:04 AM
Cirque du So-What (11,290 posts)
54. Bumble Bee Tuna
I usually don't buy brand-name items, but I found Bumble Bee 'solid white albacore tuna' on sale and picked up a couple of cans. It didn't even pass muster as cat food. Blech!
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:03 AM
hexola (3,397 posts)
55. Isn't Pabst still a union beer?
Pabst was basically a dead brand - but, for sure - it has been revived - and as mentioned upthread...is being marketed to hipsters effectively.
Its right up there with all the other taps at my local fancy restaurant/pub. I love micro/craft brewing - but there is shit tons of sugar in that stuff...really not that good for you. I might still have one or two a week as a treat. PBR is almost "light" by micro standards...and is only 20 bucks for a 30 pack. But point is - the Pabst case might show that this isnt about the Union... |
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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:22 PM
valerief (53,235 posts)
79. Who wants these twinkies?
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:09 PM
jmowreader (35,486 posts)
95. Metropoulos seems not to have looked at this very close
Hostess was, as we say, Bained to death: private equity firms who saw Hostess as a cash cow - which it was - bought the company and put most of their revenues in their pockets. The sharks claim Hostess wasn't profitable; would it have been without management fees?
This deal feels to me like the PE firm is going to "modernize" Hostess by selling the bakeries, distribution centers, outlets and distribution and going to an all-contract setup. Since Hostess' bread lines did a lot of contract baking themselves (I used to go to the Wonder/Hostess outlet in Fayetteville; they always had carts of Walmart and Food Lion house brand bread there) and the pastry lines may have done the same, how this is gonna work remains to be seen. The old-bakery comment is good too; private equity ownership almost inevitably leads to facilities falling apart.(In Barbarians at the Gate, John Greeniaus described Ross Johnson's plan to modernize the Nabisco bakeries as wasteful spending, and that's really the mindset of all these sharks: a nickel not given to the sharks is a nickel wasted.) The best thing these assholes can do is to find another baker to buy outright Hostess...and because of antitrust concerns it probably shouldn't be Grupo Bimbo. |


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When I give presentations on ADHD at conferences and workshops, I almost always touch upon the topic of holidays and entertaining because I think it's a huge problem for most families who have ADHD in the mix. To give you some perspective, let me share a bit about how I handle these special occasions.
One thing I try to keep in mind as each major annual event draws near, whether it's Thanksgiving, Christmas/Chanukah, etc., is to ask myself- or really, REMIND myself- of the reason I'm having a holiday gathering. Is it for spiritual enrichment? Family tradition? Giving in to others' expectations? Having a house large enough that can accommodate everyone?
In my case, it's because I want to be with family and to enjoy my time with them. Since my own flavor of ADHD makes it difficult to plan, shop, cook, decorate, remember details, stay calm in a house full of people, not get distracted, etc. etc...I have come up with many strategies to survive:
1. I graciously, if not deliriously, accept any invitation offered by someone else who is willing to take on a holiday dinner. Sometimes it's hard to believe that there are people who love to do this, but it's true. If someone offers to have it, don't think twice- say yes.
2. If I do have the dinner at my home, I invite as few people as possible without ending up being on someone's hate list. Suggest to those who are omitted that you get together informally (preferably at a restaurant) after the holidays when you can spend more one-on-one time with them.
3. Since I'm not exactly an ace in the kitchen, I order in almost all of the food. This typically costs me a car payment, but is well worth it. The food tastes good, but more importantly, it offers me the opportunity to actually enjoy my company, rather than obsessing and worrying over the food. I'm not as stressed out and therefore, less likely to be irritable, lashing out at my family.
4. For gifts, I order almost everything online, usually at Amazon which carries everything from apple butter to car accessories. They even carry groceries, now, so theoretically, I could start a whole new tradition and have an entire Amazon holiday!
5. Back to the gifts- I have my kids email me their choices so that I can keep it on file and not accidentally buy duplicates, wrong colors, sizes, etc.
6. I do a minimum of decorating. It's simply not my forte'. When my kids were younger, they loved making projects to spiff up the house. If you have youngsters at home, ask them to put their creative juices to work.
7. Can't get out of the cooking and don't have the budget for carry out? Host a holiday potluck. If you hate delegating, ask someone else to keep track of what people are bringing so that there aren't duplicates.
8. I don't "do" kitchen clean up until everyone is gone. Think about it- you have people falling all over you and distracting you with their chatter. There's the deafening clanking of dishware as it hits the sink. The children are racing around while the adults are fighting about politics and religion. Who needs the extra commotion? Toss everything in the sink and let it soak in hot water. Your job will be a lot easier the next morning and you'll have more energy to do it.
9. I make sure that the next two days are blocked out with no responsibilities because that's how long it takes for me to recover from a holiday. If you're an adult with ADHD, like I am, these kinds of festivities are exhausting. Allow yourself a few days to vegetate and recuperate.
The Big Picture:
Change your expectations so that the holiday works for YOU, not the other way around. Ask yourself: what do YOU want this day to be like? Visualize it and then come up with solutions so that you can enjoy it- whether it's ordering the food, asking everyone to bring something, hiring a sitter to help with your ADHD kids, etc.
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mothercare - "we can't sell you a car seat. It's raining"
(96 Posts)Don't know if I should post this in this topic as its not really a question of being unreasonable. But I though I would share with you all today's experience of genuine retain insanity.
Went into Mothercare today to get a stage three car seat for DD1. Had DDs 1 and 2 with me. Approached cash desk and said
Me - "Hello, I"d like to get a car seat for my daughter"
Assistant - "does it fit in your car?"
Me - "I don't know, I as I haven't bought the car seat yet" (I'm already thinking her first question is a bit inane, but hey! we all have our off days...)
Assistant - "Oh well we can't sell you a car seat now. It's raining"
Me - "Sorry?"
Assistant - "We would have to go and fit the car seat in your car and we can't do that now as it's raining"
(At this point I thought maybe there was a concern about the car seat getting wet, and perhaps they would show me round the seats available on the display in store, but more was to come...)
Me - "I'm a little confused"
Assistant - "It's health and safety. We might fall over in the rain."
Me - (really confused by now) "Sorry??"
Assistant - "It's for our own protection. We aren't allowed to sell car seats when its raining, as we might fall over when we walk to the car to check it fits".
This was followed by a grumpy silence from all three assistants who were looking at me as if to say "How DARE you put our very lives at risk by suggesting that we might sell you a car seat. Can't you see the RAIN".
No more help offered from them. Just lots of questions from DD1 as to why she couldn't have her new car seat. With me saying loudly " they can't sell us a car seat during the rain. We are NEVER coming here again." We went to Halfords.
Now I'm all for protecting the worker (a union person me) but seriously? You can't go out in the rain as you might fall over? Seriously?
I live in Scotland - if that's a valid excuse for staying in, I may never leave the house again....
moaningminnies if you are who i think you are you have been trolling for weeks
(career troll?)
and you have the cheek to ask us if we have nothing better to do?
For God's sake! I was really enjoying this thread, love a good moan!
But then there is always someone who comes along to spoil the fun.
My DS is napping so I can't play with him, sorry. But you have obviously read the whole thread and posted a comment, what are your children doing??
Oh and MC are pretty rubbish and they have Myleene Klass (patron saint of mothers) designing a clothing range now too!
can someone tell me what trolling means. I recently discovered mumsnet and spend far too much time on it, dh has threatened to block it!!!! My now deprived of attention son, is as we speak watching Robots. Feeling quite guilty now......
Don't worry folks, come September moaningminnies will be back at school where she belongs!
but how can you pose as someone else, you cant steal someone elses name on here?? or am i being naive?
You can change your name, Lori, but not to someone else's name. Some people are regular posters but you can change your name if for example you want to post about a sensitive subject. Trouble is some people change their name and then "troll" which is posting for inflammatory purposes.
I see, cheers.
and you can do this sort of thing, which is pretty nasty
(it's SPB)
How did you get my name?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
Look carefully at the spelling.
Hey SPB!
oh yeah! do mant people do that kind of thing?
Here moaningminnies, before you start on us get your facts right, the Sunday Post is not a major newspaper.
hi, me again, one more question, what is SPB- need to make sure im up on all this obviously!!
I meant it's me!
I've just posted on another thread as 'you' sorry, did explain and name change back!
Hi BT
Thank you
OMG, SPB! I was really fooled by that! Was thinking poor Lori was a troll![girn]
Sorry for girning at you!
took nearly 25 mins to pay for a potty, as they were faffing over a code for a cot for the poor bugger in front of me, they had been there an hour......have not been back since!
Halfords for car seats though, thay are lovely
hi i currently work at mothercare and have done for over 2 years, i am surprised by alot of things which have been said on ere especially about it being raining and not being able to fit a carseat in the car because of it!! it seems that some people have unfortunatly been to some mothercares which are not up to a great standard, which is a shame as the place i work at never does any of these things. You may think i am blowing my own trumpet and thats ur opinion but i am always out in the rain and doing it with a smile and making people feel welcome in the store just because i treat people how i want to be treated, unfortunatly there is not anough people around like this. btw i have recieved many complaints about halfords carseat service i think it just depends on the area you live in, not the companies themselves.
hello i work at mothercare been there 4yrs now and at anthor baby company before that, in all its been 10 yrs, i really shocked about the rain incident, i have been out in the snow, rain and hale!! Please dont lose faith in a very gd compamy we arnt all like that.
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A novice adventurer departs on a journey, and gets far more than he bargained for. Faced with an unwanted transformation and a spell seeking his life, can Thravian Galegate overcome the challenges of being "Twice Accursed"?
UPDATE v0.21 - Chapter 1 is complete, and Chapter 2: "Retrained" is well under way - experience another transformation, solve a challenge of wits, encounter two delightful monstergirls, become employed - or 'employed' - and meet new enemies and allies in this latest update!
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and quite a bit of things to explore already.
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The text is also easy enough to read, spacing and different colours during dialogue also makes it easier to follow, who says what.
Twice Cursed belong in TFgamessite's Hall of Fame (or will when the game finishes)
v0.21a : I really liked this start. It's well written and some scenes are really hot. I really like the Frienemmies relationships of your "guradians". Good luck for the rest!
Excellent start and game.
Looking forward for more :)
Love this game/story. I see three main paths here. Surprisingly, it is actually possible to avoid transformations (beyond the initial one). Sadly, this is also the least developped at the moment. Hah, who am I kidding, the paths where you ask either Inverica or Extacillia for help twice in a row are wicked hot. That moment when you get to the city on the Inverica path. Wow. Just wow.
This is my new favorite game. Great characters, enjoyable writing and an interesting story!
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Vattmann was once called Vattmannville after Father Edward J. Vattmann who was secretary to the Catholic Colonization Society. Vattmann was invited to visit the area by Theodore Koch, land developer for Riviera and Riviera Beach. Father Vattmann was impressed with the location and with his approval, German Catholic families started moving there. The first family was from Westphalia, Texas (Falls County). Others came from other parts of the U.S. and they built their first church in 1909.
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check out this article from the register.co.uk http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/29377.html It's funny how people say that Macs aren't innovative compared to "concept pee-cee's". Although this is an improvement from past concept pee-cee's, which only featured weird designs and cases, it's still not much of a 'concept'. If I want to check my mail, I'll open my iBook, and open up Mail.app, and check my mail. If my iBook had a screen on the outside, I'd see I have mail, try to check it outside, and find that i'd be better off looking it with the mail program in the computer, so I'd inevitably end up opening the computer, completely defeating the purpose of this feature... Come on guys, is this all that the pee-cee world can come up with? It's bad enough that you have to use the worst designed operating system in the world, but now with badly designed hardware, there seems to be no end... Concept PC's are a niche market. Few need them, and fewer even buy them. Besides, the majority of people can get by with peripherals and software that do what these computers do. Another thing about concept pee-cee's that I've noticed, is that I've never seen any of them put on the market. I guess they make an appearance, and then go on to die. Kinda like concept cars- you see them, and they look cool, and they have some weird features that you could hardly imagine using, but you never see them on the road. That's what's cool about Apple. They are putting out hot new designs and technology now while the rest of the pee-cee world says "our concept pee-cee can do that too..." It's truly hilarious. Yet another reason to own a Mac. Keep it up Intel... Maybe next year, you'll have something that finally catches up with the 20th Anniversary Mac...
this is pretty pointless. reminds me of cell phones with caller-ID on the outside, too. maybe a few people find it convenient but a lot could live without it, especially if it would make the thing thinner... all this is going to do: -add parts to fail -add expense to the laptop -make it thicker (could you imagine trying to fit two back-to-back LCDs in the tibook screens?) complicated... blah... another example of why the mac is superior-- there's none of this crap to worry about... pnw
oh wow, I never thought I'd see the day...no really, it never came to mind. that's pretty silly and a waste of time to design.
I disagree. W/my old flip phone I'd have to open everytime someone called (not a big deal but annoying). W/my new flip phone (which has a display on the outside) I just glance at who's calling and either take it or ignore it and silence the ringer (or stop the vibration in my case). I don't even have to take it off my belt. Much better than having to unbelt and flip open the phone just to see who is calling me. /hijack Lethal
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"Eat local" has become such a commonly cited slogan that it's starting to lose its punch. You know an idea is getting shop-worn when major food retail...
Plastic-wrapped fruits, says James McWilliams in the New York Times' Freakonomics blog, are a good thing, not just for ensuring my son eats his apple ...
In the end, McWilliams comes off as a bitter and snarky outsider. His argument is weakened by his obvious bitterness and cheapened by its lopsidedness.
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Grey Abbey
Grey Abbey is a ruined Cistercian priory in the village of Greyabbey, County Down, Northern Ireland, currently maintained by the Northern Ireland Environment Agency. It is a monument in state care in the townland of Rosemount, beside the Rosemount estate, on the eastern edge of the village of Greyabbey in the Ards and North Down local government district, at grid ref: J5829 6810.[1][2]
Grey Abbey was founded in 1193,[3] by John de Courcy's wife, Affreca (daughter of Godred Olafsson, King of the Isles), as a daughter house of Holmcultram Abbey in Cumbria. It had declined by the late Middle Ages and was dissolved in 1541.[2] It was burnt out by Brian O'Neill in 1572. It was granted to Sir Hugh Montgomery who re-roofed the abbey in 1626 and refurbished it for use as a parish church. It was used until 1778.[4]
The remains consist of a church with cloister and surrounding buildings to the south. Entry is through an elaborate west door, into an aisleless nave, transepts with two chapels in each and a short chancel with tall lancet windows. The buildings around the cloister include an aisled chapter house and a refectory with reader's pulpit, although the west range and cloister walks have disappeared. Three buttresses on the south wall of the nave are part of a conservation programme carried out early in the 20th century.[2] In the north wall of the choir is an effigy tomb which may be that of Affreca, while an armoured knight figure in the north transept may represent John de Courcy. There are also monuments dedicated to the Montgomery family from the 17th and 18th centuries.[4]
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- ^ a b c Department of the Environment for Northern Ireland (1983). Historic Monuments of Northern Ireland. Belfast: HMSO. p. 102.
- ^ Illustrated Dictionary of Irish History. Mac Annaidh, S (ed). Gill and Macmillan, Dublin. 2001
- ^ a b Sandford, Ernest (1976). Discover Northern Ireland. Belfast: NI Tourist Board. p. 197. ISBN 0 9500222 7 6.
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North Dakota, Port of Vancouver sign transportation pact
FARGO, ND – The state of North Dakota and one of the nation's leading ports are teaming up to increase the shipment of North Dakota agricultural commodities to the West Coast, while bringing more supplies and industrial products into the state.
Agriculture Commissioner Doug Goehring and Todd Coleman, CEO, Port of Vancouver USA signed a memorandum of agreement Wednesday in Fargo, uniting the state and the port in a collaborative rail service program that supports both the agricultural and energy industries.
"This agreement provides more marketing opportunities for our identity-preserved and specialty crop products, such as food grade soybeans, peas, lentils, dry beans and other commodities, to be transloaded and containerized," Goehring said. "It also provides a major opportunity for North Dakota commodity handlers, especially smaller and mid-sized companies, to access rail facilities on the same basis as larger companies, enabling them to remain competitive."
"We expect this agreement to increase capacity and reliability for farmers needing to move their products to market by rail," said Coleman. "Cargoes, specifically supplies for the energy industry, are already moving east from the Pacific Northwest to the Midcontinent. We're taking it a step further by leasing boxcars to carry those eastbound cargoes and then, with the help of our logistics partners, filling these boxcars with agricultural products for the return trip to Vancouver."
Coleman explained that the port's responsibilities include designating load centers, managing boxcars, coordinating with BNSF Railway and providing monthly service reports.
Goehring said NDDA's responsibilities include collection of production data, and communicating with the agriculture community, exporters and with small to mid-size shippers.
"We have been working at this more than a year," Goehring said. "When the Port approached me about the possibility, I saw it as an opportunity to reduce the problem of trying to get out our wheat and other crops to market, a problem we have had for decades and one that has become a greater challenge recently. This agreement will not end that problem, but I believe it can go a long way to relieve it."
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