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Primary Care Providers Working in Mental Health Settings: Improving Health Status in Persons with Mental Illness Lori Raney, MD With: Katie Friedebach, MD; Todd Wahrenburger, MD; Jeff Levine, MD; and Susan Girois, MD
2 Disclosures Dr. Raney: Consultant, National Council Dr. Wahrenberger: Nothing to disclose Dr. Girois: PBHCI Grantee Dr. Levine: PBHCI Grantee Dr. Friedebach: Nothing to disclose
3 Psychopharmacology for Common Illnesses and Working with Psychiatric Providers Learning Objectives: Understand the most commonly used psychotropic medications and their potential side effects Discuss the problems associated with psychotropic prescribing and the role of the primary care-psychiatric provider liaison in minimizing risk Appreciate the need to work with psychiatric provider colleagues on ownership of prescribing and rules of engagement Module 4
4 Pre Test Questions 1.Which second generation antipsychotics (SGAs) lead to the most weight gain? a)Olanzapine (Zyprexa) and Quetiapine (Seroquel) b)Risperidone (Risperdal) c)Aripiprazol (Abilify) and Ziprasidone (Geodon) d)Haloperidol (Haldol) and Fluphenazine (Prolixin) 2.Which tests are recommended by the American Diabetes Association/American Psychiatric Association guidelines for SGAs? a)Lipid Panel b)Fasting Blood Sugar c)BMI d)All the above 3.What percentage of people with schizophrenia smoke? a)~30 - 40% b)~40 - 50% c)~70 - 80% d)~90% 4.What roles do the psychiatric providers play in the medical treatment of their patients? a)Minimize risk by selection of medications b)Screen for medical complications of medications c)Counsel on lifestyle modification d)All of the above
5 Overview Module 4 Medication Classes Anxiety Sleep Smoking Substance Use Pain Working with Psychiatric Providers
6 Classes of Psychotropic Medications Antipsychotics (1 st and 2 nd Generation) Antidepressants o tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) o selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) o serotonin–norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (SNRI) o selective dopamine reuptake inhibitor (SDRI) Mood Stabilizers Anxiolytics
7 First Generation Antipsychotics (FGAs) Yes, we still use them….Potent D2 receptor blockade High Potency – decanoate helpful for homeless, few social supports, frequent relapse Fluphenazine (Prolixin) also has decanoate formulation Haloperidol (Haldol) also decanoate Low Potency – dopamine + histamine, acetylcholine, muscarinic Thioridizine (Mellaril) Loxapine (Loxatane) Chlorpromazine (Thorazine) Thiothixene (Navine) Perphenazine (Trilafon)
8 FGA Side Effects – think Parkinson's Dyskinesia – movement disorder (nigrostriatal dopamine pathway) tongue, lips, eye, limbs, fingers Tardive Dyskinesia – can be permanent Dystonia – muscle tension neck (torticollis), arms, legs – any body part painful – benztropine, diphenhydramine to treat – IM available Akisthesia – extreme restlessness hard to sit still, pacing, shakiness – can be exhausting, reduce dose Hyperprolactinemia – D2 blockade (tubuloinfundibular dopamine pathway) amenorrhea, galactorrhea – lower the dose, switch, work with GYN
9 Decade of the Brain 1990 – 1999 "Now, Therefore, I, George Bush, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim the decade beginning January 1, 1990, as the Decade of the Brain." July 17, 1990 Many new medications introduced with novel mechanisms of action during this decade
10 Decade of the Brain Antidepressants 1987 –Prozac (fluoxetine) 1989 – Celexa (citalopram) 1989 – Wellbutrin(bupropion) 1992 – Zoloft (sertaline) 1992 – Paxil (paroxetine) 1993 – Luvox (fluvoxamine) 1993 – Effexor (venlafaxine) SGAs "Atypical" 1991 – Clozaril (clozapine) 1994 – Risperdal (risperidone) 1994 – Zyprexa (olanzapine) 1995 – Seroquel (quetiapine) 2001 – GeoDon (zisprazidone) 2002 – Abilify (aripiprizole) x
11 We started to notice some problems…. *4–6 week pooled data (Marder SR et al. Schizophr Res. 2003;1;61:123-36; † 6-week data adapted from Allison DB, Mentore JL, Heo M, et al. Am J Psychiatry. 1999;156:1686-1696; Jones AM et al. ACNP; 1999. Estimated Weight Change at 10 Weeks on "Standard" Dose Haloperidol Risperidone Olanzapine Clozapine 6 Weight Change (kg) 5 4 3 2 1 0 -2 -3 Placebo Fluphenazine Ziprasidone Chlorpromazine Thioridazine 13.2 Weight Change (lb) 11.0 8.8 6.6 4.4 2.2 0 -2.2 -4.4 -6.6 Quetiapine Aripiprazole *
12 SGA Side Effects "an epidemic within an epidemic" MedicationDiabetesEPSProlactinQT IntervalWeight Aripiprazole +/- + + Asenapine++++ ++ + Clozapine+++++/- + ++++ Illoperidone++++/- ++ Lurasidone+/-+++ +/- Olanzapine++++++ + Paliperidone+++++ + Quetiapine+++/- + +++ Risperidone+++++ + Ziprasidone+/-++ ++ +/-
13 ADA/APA Screening Guidelines for SGAs American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, North American Association for the Study of Obesity: Consensus development conference on antipsychotic drugs and obesity and diabetes. Diabetes Care 2004; 27:596–601
14 Newer SGAs DrugDose RangeSide Effects Lurasidone (Latuda)40 – 120 mgDrowsiness, akisthesia, no weight gain/metabolic Asenapine (Saphris)20 – 80 mgDrowsiness, no weight gain/metabolic Iloperidone (Fanapt)6 – 12 mgDizziness, dry mouth, fatigue
15 Long-acting Injectable SGAs Risperdal Constaevery 2 weeks Invega Sustennamonthly AbilfyMaintenamonthly Zyprexa Relprevvmonthly - Post-Injection Delirium Sedation Syndrome (PDSS) risk: 3 hour watch
16 Clozapine (Clozaril) SGA used in treatment resistant patients and can be life saving for those who respond However, used as last resort due to life threatening agranulocytosis Weekly complete blood count (CBC) x 6 months, then q 2 weeks Only registered pharmacies may dispense and must have CBC at pharmacy or will not get drug Absolute neutrophil count (ANC) >2 "Clozaril clinics" in some sites due to volume and monitoring Therapeutic level ~ 200 – 400 ng/ml Same APA/ADA screening guidelines apply due to cardiovascular (CV) risk
17 CATIE The NIMH-funded Clinical Antipsychotic Trials of Intervention Effectiveness (CATIE) study compared the effectiveness of older (first available in the 1950s) and newer (available since the 1990s) antipsychotic medications used to treat schizophrenia. The $42.6 million public health-focused clinical trial was conducted over a five-year period at 57 clinical sites across the country. Perphenazine Olanzapine, risperidone, ziprasidone, quetiapine (FGA)(SGAs) Perphenazine (the older medication) equally as effective as the other three newer medications (risperidone, quetiapine, and ziprasidone) and was as well tolerated as the newer drugs. The three newer medications performed similarly to one another. Slight clinical advantage with olanzapine. No substantial advantage of newer medications.
18 So why did we continue to use SGAs with CATIE trial results? **Efficacy **Less sedation/more sedation **Patient preference Low incidence of extra pyramidal symptoms Low incidence of tardive dyskinesia Cannot tolerate alternatives Hermes, et al. Prescription of Second Generation Antipsychotics: Responding to Treatment Risk in Real World Practice, Psych Services, 2013 64 (3)
19 Why Not Just Switch? Switch could get weight loss, lower FBS, favorable lipid profile, right? Problems that might occur: rebound worsening of psychotic symptoms side effects, such as the addition of side effects of the old and new drugs, or side effects specific to the new drug differences in efficacy between the drugs and concerns about unequal efficacy problems might be specific to the discontinuation of the drug or to the drug to which the patient is switched. The strategy (sometimes called 'overlap and taper') slow tapering of the initial antipsychotic after the new drug had been titrated to the full dose ensures that the patient is covered with an adequate plasma level of the added drug before the former drug is discontinued produces fewer problems during the switch than abrupt discontinuation or gradual discontinuation before starting a new drug. Cochrane Database Syst Rev.Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2010 Dec 8;(12):CD006629. BMC Medicine 2008, 6:18
20 Mood Stabilizers MedicationDose Therapeutic Level Side EffectsLabsCost LithiumVaries – start at 300 mg hs Active 0.8 – 1.2 Maint 0.6 – 0.8 Toxic >1.5 *narrow window Polyuria, GI, renal, thyroid, wt, diuretics, NSAIDS 12 hr trough TSH Cr $4 Valproic AcidVaries – start at 500 mg Active 80 – 100 Maint 60 - 80 Hepatic, wt, Platelets,GI Sedation, PCOS 12 hr trough LFTs CBC $4 CarbamazapineVaries – start at 200 mg noneSedation, wt WBC, GI, Hepatic 12 hr trough WBC LFTs $4 Lamotrigine (depression) 50 – 400noneRash, slow titration none$$ SGAsvariesnoneSee previous $$$ Texas Medication Algorithm Project
21 Treatment of Depression Unipolar Antidepressants SGAs augmentation strategy: quetiapine, aripiprazole *Evidence based psychotherapy is first line for some – Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) has good evidence Bipolar Depression – mood stabilizer first lithium lamotrigine quetiapine aripiprazole antidepressants with caution – can trigger mania, do not give without a mood stabilizer on board **Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT) – can be used for both
22 Antidepressant Categories nortriptyline, imipramine, desipramine amitriptyline remeron, trazodone, vilazadone fluoxetine, paroxetine, citalopram – all $4 sertraline, escitalopram Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI) bupropion Selective Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitors (SDRI) venlafaxine duloxetine Selective Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors (SNRI ) Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCA) Others
23 STAR*D $35M, Six Year NIMH "Real World" Study of Antidepressant Prescribing
24 Side Effects: Antidepressants Serotonergic (SSRIs) insomnia sexual side effects weight gain activation nausea/diarrhea Norepinephrine (TCAs) blood pressure sedation weight gain cardiac in overdose Dopaminergic - bupropion activation insomnia no sexual SE no weight gain seizure risk SNRI combo SSRI and TCA nausea weight gain blood pressure changes
25 Approaches to Anxiety SSRIs, SNRIs (first line med) Fluoxetine, paroxetine, sertraline, citalopram Duloxetine, venlafaxine SSRIs, SNRIs (first line med) Fluoxetine, paroxetine, sertraline, citalopram Duloxetine, venlafaxine Others Benzodiazepines – Alprazolam (3hr half life) lorazepam (8hr half life) clonazepam (18hr half life) diazepam (60hr half life) Gabapentin – 300 – 3000 mg (weight gain, loopiness) Buspirone SGAs B blockers NOT Bupropion - can worsen anxiety Others Benzodiazepines – Alprazolam (3hr half life) lorazepam (8hr half life) clonazepam (18hr half life) diazepam (60hr half life) Gabapentin – 300 – 3000 mg (weight gain, loopiness) Buspirone SGAs B blockers NOT Bupropion - can worsen anxiety Relaxation exercises – deep breaths Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) Relaxation exercises – deep breaths Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)
26 Rational Approach to Benzodiazepines Efficacy, rapid onset make them desirable Acute stress, fluctuating anxiety, severe panic are indications Limit use to acute episode if possible (4 weeks max) – can become difficult to stop this though Use in conjunction with other strategies – SSRI, therapy Side effects include sedation, tolerance, cognitive impairment, concern with increased risk of dementia, early mortality Base choice by half-life: short anxiety attacks, events – alprazolam (3 hours) sleep, intermediate coverage – lorazepam (6-8 hour) longer term coverage – clonazepam (18 hours)
27 Sleep Sleep hygiene (non-pharmacologic approach) first! Naps common due to medication side effects and interfere with normal sleep patterns Trazodone 25 – 200 mg Gabapentin 300 – 900 mg Mirtazapine 15 mg SGAs – especially quetiapine Benzodiazepines Zolpidem – generic, 5 mg for women
28 Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) 15% of patients with schizophrenia with OSA Common with obesity Excessive daytime sleepiness overlaps with other symptoms of mental illness Combination of sleep medications, sedating medications, narcotics, benzodiazepines on top of OSA a concern – don't want to make the problem worse Tips Find a sleep lab willing to work with your patients Train case managers in importance of testing to help with follow- through Benson KL, Zarcone VP. Sleep abnormalities in schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. In: Oldham JM, Riba MB, eds. Review of Psychiatry. American Psychiatric Press; 1994:677-705
29 Chronic Pain SNRIs (Venlafaxine, duloxetine) – some additional benefit with chronic pain due to norepinephrine activity Gabapentin – up to 3,000 mg – watch dizziness, weight gain, renal clearance Narcotics are central nervous system (CNS) depressants that interfere with antidepressant action Many people with chronic pain also experience depression so do not get antidepressant benefit
30 Polypharmacy 40% of patients with schizophrenia took 2 antipsychotics Common: 1 or 2 antipsychotics, medication for side effects (e.g., add on quetiapine for sleep), antidepressant, anxiolytic Reconciliation with other meds important and difficult to accomplish. Use your care/case managers, EMR Avoid duplication: work as a team with psychiatric providers Find non-pharmacologic interventions when possible (Ganguly R. J Clin Psych 2004)
31 Day in the life of a psychiatric provider 49 year old female, Anxiety, citalopram 40 mg (the easy one – not SMI) 53 year old female, Bipolar I, lamotrigine 400 mg, Abilify 15 mg, chlorpromazine 300 mg, fluvoxamine 100 mg 33 year old male, Schizoaffective disorder, Invega Sustenna, sertraline 100 mg, trazodone 100 mg, trileptal 300 bid 28 year old male, Schizoaffective disorder, Invega Sustenna 234 mg, Invega 6 mg, trazodone 100 mg, Depakote 1000 mg 41 year old female, Schizophrenia, olanzapine 10 mg, Topamax 100 mg bid, trazodone 100 mg 53 year old male, Schizophrenia, Invega Sustenna, Bupropion SR 300 mg, trazodone 150 mg, citalopram 40 mg
32 Non Pharmacologic Approaches: Evidence Based Therapies Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) – for residual psychotic symptoms and anxiety disorders Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) – teaches distress tolerance skills to people with personality disorders, chronically suicidal patients Motivational Interviewing – for health behavior change including smoking, weight loss, alcohol use, exercise Behavioral Activation – great for patients that are "stuck"
33 Smoking
34 Copyright © American Psychiatric Association. All rights reserved. Cigarette Smoking Among Persons With Schizophrenia or Bipolar Disorder in Routine Clinical Settings, 1999–2011 Psychiatric Services. 2013;64(1):44-50. doi:10.1176/appi.ps.201200143 Quantity of cigarettes consumed (packs per day) by year of study enrollment Same rate, people with schizophrenia smoking fewer packs per day Smoking
35 Smoking and Drug Metabolism Increases metabolism at CP450 A12 so lowers drug level of olanzapine, clozapine 7-12 cigarettes to cause induction Need to watch if stop smoking or go to non-smoking inpatient treatment setting We give medications that block dopamine - smoking increases dopamine so patients note it makes them feel less "dull." People with depression may find it helps their mood. Remember - smoking is an appetite suppressant Smoking
36 Smoking Cessation – Use your Team 300 mg/day Watch for activation 21 mg/day start for most Watch for smoking while using, may need breakthrough gum/lozenges 2 mg/day Watch for Suicidal ideation Kreyenbuhl, et al. The Schizophrenia Patient Outcomes Research Team (PORT): Updated treatment recommendations. Schiz Bulletin 36: 94-103, 2010 Psychosocial Supports (Case Manager, Peers) Smoking
37 Alcohol Treatment Double Trouble, Peer Run Groups, AA Naltrexone - 50 – 100 mg per day (watch hepatic functions) Vivitrol – injectable version of Naltrexone Campral -333 mg, 2 tid (renal impairment) Antabuse - 250 mg per day Substance Use
38 Remember Motivational Interviewing! "People are generally better persuaded by the reasons that they themselves discovered than by those which have come into the mind of others." 17 th Century French polymath Blaise Pascal – in Pensẻes Substance Use
39 Working with Psychiatric Providers Co-Management Each provider has their own caseload PCP manages all medical problems Psychiatrist manages all mental health problems Work together to re- enforce treatment plans Manage with Primary Care Consult Psychiatrist works with a care manager Manages a caseload of patients for BOTH mental health and basic medical health concerns using protocols from PCP PCP available for consultation and stepped care Comprehensive Management Typically dually trained psychiatrist – family physician, internist, pediatrician Provider manages both medical and mental health problems Limited number of providers have this expertise All psychiatrists are responsible for "not making people sicker."
40 Psychiatric Providers' Responsibilities Minimize: Effects of SGAs and other psychotropic medications Screen: For illness using APA/ADA Guidelines, others Counsel: Lifestyle modification – smoking, weight loss Treat: Some chronic medical conditions with adequate training/consultation if desired
41 Engage Psychiatric Providers Shared patients, shared illnesses – they can counsel, switch meds, minimize side effects, treat – work in partnership with PCP Patients see them as their doctor and may want their approval first before starting medications from PCP Complications of psychiatric medications and medical comorbidities require discussion among colleagues Tips Staff complicated patients together Go to medical staff meetings – be part of their team Educate – help restore their skills in treating chronic medical problems – help them be more well-rounded medical providers
42 Working with Psychiatric Providers Some places have no nurses, no MAs and psychiatrists feel stressed about trying to do this all by themselves with scales and blood pressure cuffs Can be insecure about medical skills or uncomfortable treating other medical problems: "out of my scope of practice" "not safe" Liability concerns Check in with each other before changing each others meds, agree on changes May see this as intrusive meddling instead of much needed support - these are "their" patients We're on the same team - potential for successful partnerships!
43 Examples: Working with Psychiatric Providers Psych A is community psychiatrist that has been working for the past 12 years with patients in an urban setting. She feels constrained by the 15 minute med check environment and wishes she had more time to talk with her patients and to develop a therapeutic alliance. She feels that checking vital signs, weighing the patient and talking about lifestyle changes is impossible without more staff and time for patient interaction. Her patients have a number of complex medical problems. She does not have time to call and discuss patients since she does not have a nurse or medical assistant. She has a 16 week back log for new patients. How might a partnership with this psychiatrist improve patient care?
44 Examples: continued Psych B did a residency in internal medicine and then psychiatry. He has worked for the past 15 years as a psychiatrist and never recertified for internal medicine. He feels comfortable refilling medications for blood pressure and diabetes for his patients that don't have a PCP, however, recently he is getting concerned about the new medications and new tests coming out for treatment of HTN and DM. He feels he has no other choice, since his patients will only come to see him and no other doctor. How could you help this psychiatrist provide better care?
45 Examples: continued Psych C is a CRNP working in a community behavioral health center. She sees patients who also go to a local federally qualified health center (FQHC). She admits she is frustrated that the doctors at the FQHC seem to be giving her patients clonazepam for anxiety. She refers to the docs at the FQHC as "knuckle heads" that don't know drug addicts shouldn't be prescribed these kind of medications. What approach could be used to find a solution to this problem?
46 Examples: continued Psych D has managed a CTT/ACT team for 5 years. She lost four patients last year to heart attack and cancer. She became frustrated by the lack of PCPs in her area that would see her patients or take the time to manage their medical problems. She has been working with two family practice doctors to develop a working relationship. She has exchanged secure email and cell phone numbers with these providers and they talk about patient care regularly to coordinate medications and test results. Working together for successful partnership
47 Partners in Health - Primary Care/County Mental Health Collaboration Toolkit, Integrated Behavioral Health Project (IBHP), October 2009
48 Reflections and Discussion What do you see as the boundaries of care with your psychiatric colleagues? What might be a best approach to discussing care concerns, such as a patient with cardiovascular disease on olanzapine, with their psychiatric provider? Who could you talk to if there is disagreement among the treating providers?
49 Post Test Questions 1.Which SGAs lead to the most weight gain? a)Olanzapine (Zyprexa) and Quetiapine (Seroquel) b)Risperidone (Risperdal) c)Aripiprazol (Abilify) and Ziprasidone (Geodon) d)Haloperidol (Haldol) and Fluphenazine (Prolixin) 2.Which tests are recommended by the ADA/APA guidelines for SGAs? a)Lipid Panel b)Fasting Blood Sugar c)BMI d)All the above 3.What percentage of people with schizophrenia smoke? a)~30 - 40% b)~40 - 50% c)~70 - 80% d)~90% 4.What roles do the psychiatric providers play in the medical treatment of their patients? a)Minimize risk by selection of medications b)Screen for medical complications of medications c)Counsel on lifestyle modification d)All of the above
50 Post Test Answers 1.Which SGAs lead to the most weight gain? a)Olanzapine (Zyprexa) and Quetiapine (Seroquel) b)Risperidone (Risperdal) c)Aripiprazol (Abilify) and Ziprasidone (Geodon) d)Haloperidol (Haldol) and Fluphenazine (Prolixin) 2.Which tests are recommended by the ADA/APA guidelines for SGAs? a)Lipid Panel b)Fasting Blood Sugar c)BMI d)All the above 3.What percentage of people with schizophrenia smoke? a)~30 - 40% b)~40 - 50% c)~70 - 80% d)~90% 4.What roles do the psychiatric providers play in the medical treatment of their patients? a)Minimize risk by selection of medications b)Screen for medical complications of medications c)Counsel on lifestyle modification d)All of the above
51 Resources Marder SR et al. Schizophr Res. 2003;1;61:123-36 Allison DB, Mentore JL, Heo M, et al. Am J Psychiatry. 1999;156:1686-1696; Jones AM et al. ACNP; 1999. Hermes, et al. Prescription of Second Generation Antipsychotics: Responding to Treatment Risk in Real World Practice, Psych Services, 2013 Benson KL, Zarcone VP. Sleep abnormalities in schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. In: Oldham JM, Riba MB, eds. Review of Psychiatry. American Psychiatric Press; 1994:677-705 Kreyenbuhl, et al. The Schizophrenia Patient Outcomes Research Team (PORT): Updated treatment recommendations. Schiz Bulletin 36: 94-103, 2010
52 End of Module 4
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This is your resource to discuss support topics with your peers, and learn from each other.
Unfortunately, compared to the older simulator this one is way more secure, even from us in development mode. (Perhaps too secure...)
When we connect via SSH (whether with a login or using scp or sftp, it's all the same) we are logged in as "devuser". Unfortunately the apps are all installed under the different userid 1000, and devuser has no write access to the appdata folders nor, for that matter, read access, nor almost anything else that's useful.
I would think we should at least have access to the shared folders (under /accounts/1000/shared) but even that is restricted at the moment. Presumably, since I would expect we'll eventually be able to read/write files in there from our PCs through USB (with the PB as a mass storage device), it ought to be safe to let us developers get in there as well for test purposes like you have.
The only option I can see at the moment is to copy your files to the /tmp folder, and add a capability in your app to transfer them into your applicationStorageDirectory. You could do this with a little timer routine so that it happens automatically, maybe polling for the existence of a "semaphore" file (e.g. /tmp/copynow) that you create only when you want it to do that. (It would copy the files then delete them from /tmp and delete that semaphore file for the next time.)
thanks for this response Peter ( and thanks for your previous response also )
I try to create a folder into the /tmp but it's fail...
So the only way we have to add files into the applicationStorageDirectory is to bring them into our app and copy it?
@khanou, I also could not create a folder in the /tmp folder, but I could create a file. Using "md foo" fails for reasons I don't understand yet, but "echo blah >foo" successfully creates the file foo. Perhaps that's adequate for you.
When you connect to device using ssh as devuser you can access sanboxes of the application you installed in development mode (if you use command line -devMode switch in airpackager) and shared folder in /account/1000/appdata.
/tmp will not be accessing for applications or for devuser do not rely on it. For app the place to write files is <sandbox>/tmp. For devuser - devuser's home.
Ah, now we finally know what -devMode was for.
(Note: it may not be available on airpackager, but it is shown as an option on blackberry-deploy. Maybe it's also on the packager but just not shown in the help output.)
Another option appears to be "chmod o+r" on /accounts/devuser, as that would let any app read files in that folder. That would work even if an app is not installed in -devMode, though of course it would depend on having development-related code in your app. Maybe useful in some testing situations.
elena_laskavaia wrote:
When you connect to device using ssh as devuser you can access sanboxes of the application you installed in development mode (if you use command line -devMode switch in airpackager) and shared folder in /account/1000/appdata.
/tmp will not be accessing for applications or for devuser do not rely on it. For app the place to write files is <sandbox>/tmp. For devuser - devuser's home.
Elena, are you sure about all that, and that's it's meant to be working with the 0.9.2 simulator?
I've tried making my little snapshot test app write to several folders in there, with no success.
# trace output from app when it writes file path is /accounts/1000/appdata/Snapshot.U25hcHNob3QgICAgICAgICAgICA/data/snapshot.png # devuser cannot look into app's folder even when installed with -devMode $ ls -la /accounts/1000/appdata/Snapshot.U25hcHNob3QgICAgIC AgICAgICA/data ls: Permission denied (/accounts/1000/appdata/Snapshot.U25hcHNob3QgICAgI CAgICAgICA/data) # Note: devuser can't even get to shared folder, which seems pointless $ ls /accounts/1000/shared ls: Permission denied (/accounts/1000/shared)
I was able to write to /accounts/devuser/snapshot.png after doing "chmod o=rwx" on the folder, so the app is definitely working.
Should I file a bug report? Has anyone else successfully looked at files in any of their app's sandbox folders, as Elena described above?
Is there anything special to getting sftp to work? I got ssh working, but i cannot use the sftp protocol. I have tried filezilla and winscp. I get errors the sftp isn't installed or an exit error 141.
@thadude3, I'd noted that only ssh works as well, not (so far) pscp or psftp (those are the PuTTY versions on Windows).
I get "Fatal: unable to initialise SFTP: could not connect". Same (minus the word "Fatal") for pscp.
With the same options, plink works fine (that's the PuTTY console equivalent of "ssh").
Same on Linux, with ssh working, scp giving "unknown user: 100" (hmm... maybe that points in a useful direction), and sftp just giving "Connection closed".
Using the -v options on scp and sftp (on Linux now), I get this output from the two of them, respectively:
From scp:
(earlier stuff skipped... it connects fine)
debug1: Sending command: scp -v -f snapshot.png
unknown user 100
(the rest is just cleanup)
From sftp:
debug1: Sending subsystem: sftp
debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-status reply 0
debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype email@example.com reply 0
debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1
debug1: fd 0 clearing O_NONBLOCK
Transferred: sent 3072, received 2280 bytes, in 0.1 seconds
Bytes per second: sent 30041.7, received 22296.6
debug1: Exit status 141
Connection closed
From "sftp -s /base/usr/libexec/sftp-server -v email@example.com" (because it didn't look like it was even loading the sftp subsystem on the remote end):
debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
debug1: channel 0: new [client-session]
debug1: Requesting email@example.com
debug1: Entering interactive session.
debug1: Sending environment.
debug1: Sending env LANG = en_CA.UTF-8
debug1: Sending command: /base/usr/libexec/sftp-server
No user found for uid 100
(remainder skipped...it's just cleanup)
So for whatever reason (something QNX-related? I know nothing about QNX so I can't debug much), it doesn't recognize the user or something... at least it shows scp and sftp may suffer from the same problem (though sftp may have a different issue first, with the sftp subsystem not being loaded).
If they hadn't made /etc/passwd totally invisible to non-root users (who ever does that? it should be safe to read it!) I might have a clue.
01-13-2011 07:04 PM - edited 01-13-2011 07:20 PM
etc/ftpusers is blank, devuser guid is 100. my only guess is that since ftpusers doesn't have any users listed no ones allowed.
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This paper studies the impact of competition on the degree of inefficiency in lemons markets. More precisely, we characterize the second-best mechanism (i.e., the optimal mechanism with private information) in a stylized lemons market with finite numbers of buyers and sellers. We then study the relationship between the degree of efficiency of the second-best mechanism and market competitiveness. The relationship between the first-best and second-best mechanisms is also explored. JEL Classification: C7 ; D4 ; D61 ; D82
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Internet Speed – Why is that file is taking so long to download?
As one of the most innovative and rapidly evolving recent inventions, the Internet is seemingly constantly challenging itself to be bigger, better, and (perhaps most importantly for us) faster. The speed of your Internet connection is one of the primary factors determining how much enjoyment you can derive from the world wide web, but for some reason, some of the truths surrounding how it works have been lost along the way.
The way it's advertised is confusing
One common misconception is that your Internet speed is measured in megabytes per second. In their infinite wisdom, Internet Service Providers (ISPs) decided to advertise their packages in megabits instead. This is actually quite clever, as megabits are far larger than megabytes, and it makes the connection seem a lot faster than it is. In reality however, that 100Mbps line actually needs to be divided by 8 to convert it in to megabytes, leaving you with an actual theoretical maximum of 12.5 megabytes per second.
That speed you see is less than guaranteed
Although you'd imagine that 12.5MBps (note the capitalised MB – megabits are Mb) to be the actual speed you'll be cruising the web at, there's a reason I called it the theoretical maximum. When downloading a file, there are multiple factors that determine the speed you'll really get, which include: the distance you are from the telephone exchange, how fast the upload speed of the file server is, the amount of available bandwidth (you may have noticed that your speeds decline at peak time) and a whole host of other reasons.
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When you see an advertised speed, take it as the highest you'll get in a perfect world. There may be instances in which you will hit the absolute maximum, but those will be very few and far between.
Not only is the speed variable, so is the quality.
One thing that a lot of people won't be told is that the quality of your line can make your life very miserable if it's less than up to par. A poor connection to your ISP can result in lost packets, attenuation (less of a problem in fibre optic cables) and web pages loading sporadically. Packet loss, which I'd liken to sending a letter only for it to get lost in transit, is almost always the result of poor network topology, so there is little to nothing you can do about it if you note it happening.
With all of these misconceptions, the common theme is that the Internet service providers are to blame. In many ways it's disappointing to know that so many people are being tricked in to thinking that they're buying something they are not. It's obvious the benefits that they gain from telling half truths, but slightly confusing that no trading standards organisations have stepped in to force higher levels of regulation.
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Missed call cannot be marked as viewed, must be deleted to stop notification
Reported by: | brianwc | Owned by: | openmoko-devel |
Priority: | normal | Milestone: | Om2007.2 |
Component: | unknown | Version: | GTA02v6 |
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From http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/024191.html
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, reaper527 wrote:
is there any way to mark a missed call as seen?
for example on my old phone, if i got a missed call, i would get
notification on the main screen, and then hitting a button would take me to
the list of missed calls, and the phone would acknowledge i looked at the
calls, and it would stop counting those towards totals for the next missed
with the freerunner, if i get a missed call, it goes into the call log as
missed, and then keeps adding on to that count. if i miss 2 calls, click
the "you missed 2 calls" thing, and then later miss 1 call, it will say i
missed 3 calls at that point instead of saying i missed 1. the only work
around i have been able to find is to manually delete all my missed calls,
which isn't ideal.
anything obvious i've overlooked?
[Al Johnson replied]
I've seen the same thing, and deleting the missed calls is the only thing that's worked for me. I should have checked for bug reports I suppose, or better yet dug out the source and patched it.
I also get this behavior. OM2007.2 with recent rootfs and kernel.


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8/12/2002 Bob/RolAbsorber Review/GH2 status1 Gaseous H 2 Absorber Status IIT and Muons, Inc. Chuck Ankenbrandt, Ed Black, Kevin Cassel, Bob Hartline, Rol Johnson, Dan Kaplan, Moises Kuchnir, Al Moretti, Milorad Popovic 2 SBIR/STTR proposals (phase I $100k, phase II $750k/$500k) submitted on 1/15/2002
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8/12/2002 Bob/RolAbsorber Review/GH2 status3 21a Project Goal Unlike any previous particle accelerator, muon beams in an ionization cooling channel are not only allowed but are required to be accelerated through an energy absorbing material. This proposal is to develop very high voltage RF cavities by filling them with cold, pressurized helium or hydrogen gas, which also acts as the energy absorber, to suppress high-voltage breakdown.
8/12/2002 Bob/RolAbsorber Review/GH2 status4 H2 Paschen Data exist up to P=25 Atm,V=28 MV/m
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So I'm looking to make my first custom cable for the Earsonics SM3 v2 i've got does anyone have any idea if these will work as terminations?
http://www.lunashops.com/goods.php?id=2140 or http://www.lunashops.com/goods.php?id=2586
This website says that its cable can be used with ultimate ears ue11 and earsonics sm3 which would make me inclined to think that they are the same connection.
I do not know for sure, so please correct me if I am wrong. Just trying to help :)
so after some extensive research (with the help of this page), i've come to the conclusion that there is indeed a difference between Ultimate Ears and Westone (and by extension, Earsonics) connectors albeit, it is very small: UE pins are .75mm and Westone are .78mm
so in practice it may not actually matter, but hey, better safe than sorry!


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Michael Coveney • London, Off-West End • 1 Aug 2013
You know how it ends. Chocks away, bottoms up. But this 1997 musical about the sinking of the Titanic, which I saw on Broadway just before James Cameron's movie was released and saved the sinking of the indifferently reviewed stage show, is surprisingly buoyant.
The book by the late Peter Stone, and the music and lyrics by Maury Yeston – composer of Nine and Grand Hotel; both stage versions of films that ran fascinatingly parallel to their inspirations – are well worth the detour in this remote new venue by the Elephant and Castle. They pack a literate sense of danger and premonition in an early 20th century project that symbolised so much and cost so dear.
And although there are problems of audibility early on, the grotesque, tinny-edged sound system that distorted the Playhouse's productions of Parade and Mack and Mabel in the former venue has been largely sorted, though there's still a sense of playing "too big" for the space.
The last half hour is slightly tortuous and never-ending. But that's all I'm going to complain about – oh, apart from the too-camp teenage bell-boy and the rather unnecessary tilting of bits of the set to suggest what we already know is happening; we're going down, folks.
Otherwise, David Woodhead's clever design for this European premiere makes the whole spacious Southwark room a ship, with beaten metal silver panels, a split level poop and a crow's nest that serves as a mobile staircase and, at one point, wittily reverses the impact of Kate Winslet in the cinematic wind machine.
Richard Jones's Broadway production (designed by Stewart Laing) created a classy, hierarchical hell-hole, like a stratified department store on water. Thom Southerland's direction makes all the same overlapping class system points with more finesse: the stoker is seen rabble-rousing while the table is laid for the captain's dinner; and the ensemble becomes a tragic emblem of humanity in crisis.
All the love stories – below decks, in the "second class" section, with Celia Graham's notable Alice determined to gate-crash the top table – are pointedly differentiated, and there's a late-flowering romance among the oldies, too, as Dudley Rogers and Judith Street renew their vows, as it were, in waltz-time as the water rises.
The ship of dreams is a floating city, an engineering marvel, a means of escape, a conduit of hopes and possibilities. The captain (Philip Rahm) is contemplating retirement, the owner (Simon Green) is demanding ever more speed, in blind indifference to the consequences, and the builder (Greg Castiglioni) is advising caution.
It all makes for a tingling, involving theatrical experience, a musical meditation on our obsession with progress and improvement, even though some impressive anthems and chorales fail to make up for a distinct lack of take-home melody.
There's much craft, and much heart, and some beautiful touches of making sense of a journey into the unknown that started out as an experimental adventure for all concerned. And that's what the show so metaphorically, and brilliantly, encapsulates.
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HO CHI MINH HIGHWAY, Vietnam — If relentless American bombing didn't get him, it would take a North Vietnamese soldier as long as six months to make the grueling trek down the jungled Ho Chi Minh Trail. Today, you speed along the same route at 60 mph, past peaceful hamlets and stunning mountain scenery.
The trail, which played an important role in the Vietnam War, has been added to itineraries of the country's booming tourist industry. Promoters cash in on its history, landmarks and the novelty of being able to motor, bike or even walk down the length of the country in the footsteps of bygone communist guerrillas.
Many sections of the old trail, actually a 9,940-mile web of tracks, roads and waterways, have been reclaimed by tropical growth. But a main artery has now become the Ho Chi Minh National Highway, probably the country's best and the largest public works project since Vietnam War ended 30 years ago.
The highway, more than 745 miles of which are already open to traffic, begins at the gates of Hanoi, the capital, and ends at the doorsteps of Ho Chi Minh City, which was known as Saigon when it was the former capital of South Vietnam.
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In between, the route passes battlefields like Khe Sanh and the Ia Drang Valley, skirts tribal villages of the rugged Central Highlands and offers easy access to some of the country's top attractions - the ancient royal seat of Hue, the picturesque trading port of Hoi An and South China Sea beaches.
We began a recent car journey in the newly rebuilt city of Vinh, along one of the trail's main branches. Here in "Vietnam's Dresden," every building but one was obliterated by U.S. bombing, which attempted to stop the flow of foreign military aid through the city's port. American pilots also suffered their greatest losses of the war over its skies.
Slideshow: Alluring AsiaNearby, in the rice-farming village of Kim Lien, is the humble hut where Vietnam's revolutionary leader Ho Chi Minh was born and a museum dedicated to his turbulent life. Given Ho's standing as a national icon, the village draws an average of 1.5 million domestic visitors and a smattering of foreigners each year.
It was on one of Ho's birthdays, on May 9, 1959, that construction of the trail began with the establishment of Military Transport Division 559, made up of 440 young men and women. Over the next 16 years, the trail, which also wound through neighboring Laos and Cambodia, carried more than a million North Vietnamese soldiers and vast quantities of supplies to battlefields in South Vietnam despite ferocious American air strikes.
"There are some who argue that American victory would have followed the cutting of The Trail," writes John Prados in "The Blood Road." "The Trail undeniably lay at the heart of the war. For the Vietnamese of the North the Ho Chi Minh Trail embodied the aspirations of a people ... hiking it became the central experience for a generation."
At Dong Loc, 18 miles south of Vinh, we stopped at one of many memorials to the thousands who didn't complete that hike - a hillside shrine with the tombs of 10 women, aged 17 to 24, killed in bombing raids. Joss sticks, flowers and the articles of female youth - pink combs and little round mirrors - lay on each of the last resting places.
"School children come here every day. It's important in educating the young about the sacrifices of the old generation," said Dau Van Coi, secretary of the local youth union guiding visitors to what was once a major trail junction. Exhibiting no hostility to American visitors, he noted that U.S. warplanes dropped more than three bombs per 10 square feet on the area.
Farther down the trail, at the Highway 9 National Cemetery, bemedaled veteran Nguyen Kim Tien searched for fallen comrades among the 10,000 headstones. An elderly woman and her daughter wept before three of them - those of the older woman's father, husband and a close relative.
Although it's still a trail of tears three decades after the guns fell silent, Ho's road looks decidedly to the future.
"We cut through the Truong Son jungles for national salvation. Now we cut through the Truong Son jungles for national industrialization and modernization," said former Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet when the 10-year project began in 2000.
The government says the highway will stimulate the economy in some of Vietnam's poorest, most remote regions, relieve congestion on the only other north-south road, National Highway 1, and increase tourism revenue. Besides conventional tours, several companies offer mountain biking along sections of the trail and expeditions on Russian-made Minsk motorcycles out of the 1950s.
However, the highway has sparked domestic and international criticism that it will lead to further decimation of Vietnam's already disappearing forests, attract a flood of migrants into ethnic minority regions from the crowded coast and disturb wildlife at several protected areas. The Switzerland-based World Wide Fund for Nature has criticized the project as "the single largest long-term threat to biodiversity in Vietnam."
So far, little of the officially hoped-for development is evident. In central Vietnam, one drives for long stretches meeting just the occasional Soviet-era truck, decrepit tractor or water buffalo-drawn cart as the highway winds through valleys flanked by spectacular limestone cliffs.
At some places like the A Shau valley town of A Luoi, just a few shacks and farm houses when seen five years ago, a mini-boom is clearly afoot. There's a bustling market selling baskets of fruit, Japanese watches and delicious French bread, and newly built houses abound.
From the highway, which expands to four lanes as it runs through the crossroads town, Dong Ap Bia looms in the hazy distance. American soldiers called it Hamburger Hill because of the number of lives ground up in the 1969 battle on its ridges.
Almost all traces of American presence in A Luoi have vanished. Only the old people can point out the helicopter landing field, now a school playground with a decrepit merry-go round featuring three little airplanes. The laughing youngsters who crowd around the foreign visitors know nothing of the war.
If you go:
Explore Indochina offers motorcycle tours that last seven to 12 days.
Myths and Mountains offers motorcycle trips Feb. 6-23 and Feb. 27-March 16; (800) 670-6984. Land cost per person is from $4,995. Participants meet in Hanoi and depart from Saigon.
Ho Chi Minh Trail Adventure offers mountain biking or Jeep trips; (011) (84-4) 828-2150. A typical trip lasts eight to 10 days, beginning in Mai Chau and ending in Hoi An, with departures from Danang.
Other outfitters organizing bike tours in Vietnam include U.S.- based VeloAsia, (888) 833-4533; London-based Exodus Travels, (011) (44) 870-240-5550; and Vietnam-based Indotrek, (011) (84-8) 844-1005.
GUIDEBOOK: Lonely Planet's "Cycling Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia," by Nick Ray and Ian Duckworth, $21.99.
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Those are great. They might be good for a rehearsal dinner instead of the video that some people put together.
Those are SO SO SO cute! I think we should do that.
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Yes, but if we're talking about a fan fiction story that he wants to create, (which is what I assumed this was for) he's free to say that Merlin's device was created elsewhere and that the shields can be removed and so on. I find your response here to be a strange one as I'm offering possibilities to the OP that he can work with, not arguing that any of this is definitive. I think that was rather clear from my word choices.That it can, but however, do you even KNOW if the shield generators can be removed FROM a city ship? Let alone the ZPM power core...
It was a bit of a flip comment, but are the Asgard more uber than the Ancients at making tech just because they perfected site to site teleportation when the Ancients did not? I don't know that the subspace matter leaching technology is even possible but if it is its a matter of resource allocation, not "uberness." If a civilization has the ability to devote more resources to that one technology that the Ancients did what with the walls crumbling down around them in the final hours of the war, then it's possible they could make a breakthrough that the Ancients did not and still be technological deficient in many other areas where the Ancients excelled. However, could they do so while trying to survive under Wraith domination BEFORE they have the means to hide from the Wraith? No, but that was why it was a flip comment (the intent was to express that the only other solution was something not exactly feasible).So, they are more uber in making tech than the ancients?
Right. Again, I was putting out possibilities that assume certain things happen.And unless they had found out about the switching of the shield to cloak method that WE did, how would they even know how to do it? It would also require they HAVE a shield generator (see above) and working jumpers to do so..
The OP is free to invent something or, yes, use the Lantean satellites by saying that some survived over some other planet and were recovered. As to your claim that it was easily destroyed by the Wraith hanging back, in "The Siege," it sounds like you're describing more what happened with Earth's mines. The Wraith hung back while the asteroids they redirected took them out. The satellite was taken out because a circuit they re-routed overloaded after firing, preventing them from destroying the other Wraith Hives before the Hives could move in to take it out.And where exactly would this 'powerful' weapon come from? SO far we have seen the Lantean langran point satellite.. It was easily destroyed after the wraith hung back.
Then there was that satellite built in Icon, but that was made with Ori knowledge...
So what else do you propose??
It depends on how far away the planet is and the sublight capabilities of the civilization in question. It's not out of the bounds of reality that it would be possible to accomplish such a journey within the time frame of a few hundred years (or simply years even if, say, there's a planet ~4 light years away and they can travel at half the speed of light). Rebuilding to such a point between feedings does stretch believably but is consistent with the show semi-modern rebuilding efforts have occurred between feedings, even to the point of space age advancement. So this falls into the camp of; "The millions of years that the Ancients are said to have had an advanced civilization for is not grounded in reality but for the purpose of what is possible within the context of the Stargate universe I'm going to ignore that," or "People don't really use 10% of their brains and can't get superpowers by unlocking non-existence larger portions of their brains, but for the purpose of what is possible within the context of the Stargate universe I'm going to ignore that."Do you know how long it would take for a sublight ship to reach a nearby habitable planet? let alone how long it would take a population to rebuild from one kulling, let alone keep their #s on the move??
Please provide an example. I recall nothing in the show to suggest the Wraith have the technology to detect sublight ships in the void between solar systems.And with how the wraith scan, those would be easily found..
Because... "their ancestors found an out of the way planet without a Stargate to land on." We have no idea what information that Ancients had on advanced humans during their time. There very well could be extensive details about advanced humans in the databse, but if they survived by abandoning the planet that they came from then the Atlantis expedition would have no way of finding them by using the database. The expedition very well could have followed several leads off-screen and found nothing because, again, they abandoned their last known address. There's no way for us to know.And if they ever did exist, why is there no mention of them in the lantean database??
Except, of course, in the case of Earth. For the most part, other instances involved less advanced people surviving within the sphere of Ancient technology. In "Childhood's End" the extreme measures taken were a result of nobody knowing about the device that was protecting them. With some basic technical knowledge Mckay was able to solve their problem rather easily, albeit at the cost of putting a shorter shelf life on their ability to rely on that technology. Perhaps though a group who had that knowledge could also have devised a longer term solution over generations or within a greater period of time than Mckay was allowed to devote to the problem of an outside group.Originally Posted by thekillman
In "The Tower" the people there relied so much on their ATA gene to solve their problems that they had no idea how the technology that surrounded worked. Once jumpers ran out of juice they couldn't fly them anymore because they didn't know how to recharge them like Earth did and they knew nothing about their energy and drone needs. All they did was sit in a chair and think their problems away and presumed they could do so for generations more if only they had people who were better bred.
My supposition is that this imagined group has some technical knowledge to begin with when they came upon Ancient technology. Maybe they have the ATA gene. You say it's rare, but we have no way of knowing that. We've seen two independent examples of it in the Pegasus galaxy and those cases came to light because there was Ancient technology on those planets that they used. How extensively other such people spread throughout the galaxy is unknown as there was never a test to determine the prevalence of the ATA gene in the broader population. However, maybe they don't. There's still a lot that can be done without the gene and my examples have largely been focused on such efforts. You don't need the gene, for example, to rip out a shield generator and hook it up to your own systems (yes, assuming that's possible for the other person).
The people in "The Inferno" did have advanced technical knowledge and were successfully able to run and interact with the systems of the outpost that they inhabited. Yes, they made a grave mistake keeping the shields on all the time, but Earth has made their own mega follies in their interactions with Ancient technology, as is to be expected as, although they have a degree of technical capability, they're still dealing with technology that is light years ahead of them. The difference is that they managed to come back from every such mistake. They may have destroyed a solar system or lost a ship, but they never lost everything and thus were able to learn from those mistakes. Could a group of similarly advanced humans, ATA gene or not, do the same when there was more Ancient technology in the galaxy (not yet ravaged by time, looted, or destroyed by further Wraith hostility)? I say yes.
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The assumption behind my suggestion was that the city wasn't intact, but rather damaged by the ravages of time or Wraith attack. And although I used city ship shield generators as the example, obviously Ancient shield generators can come from multiple sources, including outposts and ships. It's just that city shield generators are perhaps more effective for their particular needs.Considering we've seen two City Ships and all evidence we have suggests the Ancients had minimal presence in Pegasus (Since the entire point was to ascend, not to restore their civilization). The odds of finding a city ship that hasn't been destroyed is near-zero. Salvaging these shields is about the worst idea (you'd want the entire ship intact), and even if it was all achieved the Wraith were willing to bombard such shields for weeks to destroy them. It won't work.
Also, nowhere was it said that the Ancients did not intend to continue their civilization by moving to Pegasus. Ignoring all the examples of civilization building that they did over the course of 5-10 million years, the most notable contraction to the claim that the Ancients only wanted more time to continue to work toward ascension (which isn't to say it wasn't a goal; I'm arguing only that it wasn't their only purpose) is that it was explicitly stated that the plan behind retreating to the Milky Way was to use recovered Ancient technology found there to rebuild their civilization and it was only when they realized that the surviving Milky Way technology was not sufficient to do this in any reasonable amount of time that they restored to working toward ascension. Below are relevant quotes.
Here it's shown that the goal when leaving Atlantis was for Ancients to return to reclaim it. They seemed shocked that the second evolution of their form would be the one to return so who then did they leave the city for if not themselves and if they left it for themselves how could they do that if they didn't intend to rebuild?
JANIS: Ten thousand years from now. (He smiles.) It should be noted that our actions have succeeded in protecting the city for so many years.
-Letters from Pegasus
That's also something similar that the hologram told:
There, the last survivors of Atlantis lived out the remainder of their lives. This city was left to slumber, in the hope that our kind would one day return.
Here Morgan explains that hopes of rebuilding their society were dashed by what they found on Earth and so one of the three paths they took instead involved seeking ascension:
When we first abandoned Atlantis all those millennia ago, the Earth was so harsh, its people so primitive by comparison, there was no hope of living among them as Lantians or rebuilding our society. So, instead we spread out to many lands, some of us planting a few small seeds of civilization among the first tribes of man. Others making their way to the Stargate at your southern pole. Still others choosing to live the remainder of our lives in seclusion and meditation. Merlin and I both chose the latter path.
-The Pegasus Project
So if their only purpose in the Pegasus galaxy was to buy more time to work out ascension and not rebuild their civilization, why would they express interest in rebuilding their civilization when leaving the Pegasus galaxy for Earth?
The Wraith were right on top of them and would have been suspicious if the ship just disappeared without anything to indicate it was destroyed. I'm talking about a scenario where a group uses it to make it look like they vanished between feedings or on a new planet that they colonize. If they can power this (and, yes, that's a big if) locating a group of humans under such conditions means scouring every square inch of a planet by sending darts on a series of search patterns until they stumble through the cloak. However, why would the Wraith think to do that if they had no expectation that that was a possibility? Yes, the Wraith are aware of Ancient cloaking, but are they aware that it can be used to hide an entire population, do they have any reason to believe humans would use it on this way, and do they think of that as enough of a concern to devote resources to carefully checking every abandoned planet they come upon for cloaked pockets?Both energy and technology issues would make this unlikely. Even in The Siege it wasn't believe to work unless both Teyla messaged the wraith AND they fake-nuked the city. The Wraith are aware of ancient cloaking, they wouldn't allow any race with such technology to live.
I would argue that the Lantean defense satellites when fully operational and working as a unit could take out a sizable number of Wraith Hives. Back in the day, it would be no problem for them to send scores of Hives to their doom to take them out, but if they have, say, 80 Hives and a comparable number of Cruisers all throughout the galaxy I think there's a problem. First, I would like to say that this number is admittedly a rough estimate from "Underground" where it was said that there were 21 Hives in the one quadrant that they were in and "maybe" an additional 60 elsewhere, but possibly more as well. However, for the sake of argument let's say that's the number. Is it worth losing 40+ Hives and a good number of their Cruisers taking a planet with 50 million people? Sure, if they gain access to that many people and that many people are indeed hard to find in the Pegasus then they can rebuild their own numbers significantly.The only weapons we've seen that worked either defended absolutely nothing (e.g. Trinity) or a minor 10 000-ish people outpost. A 50 million population is -for Pegasus- massive and would most definitely see the Wraith try to get it.
However, two main factors need to be considered. One, it's unclear that anywhere near that number would survive the kind of violence needed to quell their opposition if they have any actual military capabilities of their own and are not depending entirely on this weapon alone. In the past, we've seen the Wraith use lethal force against technological opposition (the Satedeans are such an example) presumably because they didn't want to risk the larger number of losses they would have taken if they tried to quell their opposition with less effectively non-lethal, capture tactics. Two, how long exactly would it take the Wraith to rebuild from such loses? Until Todd got his hands on Asuran ZPMs they no longer had access to their cloning technology. How quickly Drones can be grown without that is unknown but we do know that Queens (and presumably scientists as well) age at a normal human rate and we also know that Hives take possibly months to grow using non-Ancient power sources.
Now, if the Wraith are confident in their belief that no other technological opposition exists elsewhere then they may indeed feel that it is worth doing that because, in their over confidence they wouldn't consider the possibility that some outside party would rise to finish them off in their weakened state. I readily concede that is a possibility given previous examples of Wraith arrogance. However, if they were at all smart about it, they might not be willing to open themselves up to the Travelers, Asgard, and anyone else who may be out there, waiting for such an opportunity. Of course, while we know these factions exist (there were also hints in season 5 that there were more advanced groups in hiding and that the vacuum caused by the Wraith Civil War may lead to their coming out of hiding in the future) the Wraith only know that they "could" exist (except perhaps in the case of the Travelers) so that is absolutely something to keep in mind.
Could you provide a quote from the episode that proves that?Earth's 6 billion is richer than an entire galaxy of people, where according to "Be All My Sins Rememberd" the average population is some 10 000 or so
"The Ark" people are those who rebuilt between feedings. Nothing about that episode speaks to how much warning humans did or did not have that the Ancients would lose."the Ark" suggested many human worlds had essentially no warning and even the Asgard did not anticipate the Ancients losing.
Meanwhile, yes, the Asgard did say that the war ended sooner than they expected and, as a result, they were caught off guard. However, the Wraith spent years devoting a significant amount of resources to the siege of Atlantis (during which time the inevitable should have been obvious) and during that time Ancient populations continued to exist throughout the galaxy, as evident by them continually returning to Atlantis up until the last minute so they could join the others leaving for the Milky Way. From this, we know there wasn't a uniform, overnight sweep of the entire Pegasus galaxy by the Wraith. We also know there can't be due the limitation of their hyperdrives.
The Asgard were apparently unlucky. Wherever they were, there were Wraith ships nearby who managed to catch them unaware, possibly at about the same time that other Wraith ships beat back most of the Ancient's offensive capabilities after unleashing their cloned hordes. However, could there have been advanced human allies elsewhere in the galaxy who survived for a little longer under the protection of another Ancient holdout (not necessarily a city/outpost but perhaps mobile ships of which we know that there were at least a couple operating in the last days of the war) or were given forewarning to flee by scouts/their Ancient allies? I would say, there's no reason to think that isn't possible.
Possibilities maybe, but there needs to be at least some logical sense to them...
And how quickly was it taken out once the wraith realized it was a threat (after the first hive got cut in half)? Very quickly.. IMO more quickly than the satellite could have shot a 2nd time even if it was working at 100%..
Well they detected the Oddesy doing that nuke thing in Pegasus project... didn't they?
That might work, if the produce everything they will ever need, so no use of a gate for trade..
And part of the reason we were able imo to get away from those fubars with our necks intact WAS
A) cause we had ships to get out of dodge
B) plot immunity for our heroes
C) a lot more experience with all sorts of alien tech including lantean..
That might have worked for 1-2 facilities, but all of them?? You are grasping at straws.
So were the Genii if they thought that their plan to blow up all their ships while they slept was going to wipe them out. Unless they could've hit every single ship simultaneously, which would've been impossible considering the ship that Col. Sumner was taken to was only accessible by a space gate. Their plan was pipe dream. I'm more interested in learning how the wraith got access to the tech they had, and finding a way, like the Attero device, and exploiting any weaknesses it had.
Most of the tech they had seemed to be culled from the ancients they defeated, made by them during the war< or stolen (like gou'ald) from others they were culling.
People are theorising building large underground cities on earth now. Highly likely within 100 years earth tech could build such a city.
If you had Tok'ra tech you could use the tunnelling crystals to make your base.
I'd suggest picking the site carefully to keep out of the way of the Wraith. The planet in childhood's end could be a good candidate. The existing civilisation is protected by an ancient device and only uses a small fraction of the planet within the protective field of the device. That leaves the rest of the land available for farming to support food needs of your base without giving away it's existence.


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