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"effective hourly rate" was referred to earlier. This is how much eah hour of time actually makes yo. For example, our shop rate for repair is $100/hr. If I do a 2 hour job in 1 hour, the effective rate is $200/hr. If it takes 4 hours, the effective rate is $50/hr. You can go into negative EHR.
BTW, your overhead is ALWAYS double what you "think" it will be. Sit down add everything up, and add 25%. Then add 30% profit, divid by 2000 hrs in 1 year, and this will gvive a starting point for figuring labour rate. You need to add equipment purchase, and depreciation into this, as well. Parts markup, look into price matrixing, and Gross Profit Margin markup.
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|'49 Ford Coupe
Your New business...
And MOST of all...
NEVER EVER screw a customer..(no, not literally)
ALWAYS tell the truth (you never EVER know how much your customer already knows, and when/if you get caught "screwing" a customer, 15 more potential customers will find out)
ALWAYS cover any errors you made for FREE. You will secure a customer FOREVER, and he/she will tell 5 or more other people about you.
Oh, and just to VENT, nearly ALL "Brake Repair" chain companies CONSTANTLY SCREW customers, but they figure that they have an unlimited customer base, and they think there will ALWAYS be stupid customers.
Just sayin'
Here is what I do.
I try to keep a 50% margin, meaning that the cost involved is half of the sale. I let that slide on larger repairs like transmission rebuilds. Once the repair gets over about $1800 I forget about the 50% and just try to keep at least $800 profit in it.
... but I have 15 shops in three states and about 50 employees
I would start by paying yourself a modest flat rate; say, $20/flag. If the labor book says it should take 1.2 hours to replace a water pump, charge the customer 1.2 hours and pay yourself 1.2 hours regardless of how long it actually takes. Start with about $75/hr labor rate for repair.
From there, you can tweak things. For anything older than about 1975 you won't find labor times so you'll have to guess and sell the job based on your estimate. Certain jobs (like hotrodding) you may find it easiest to charge based on the actual time it takes you to complete something. It is custom work after all. In those cases, lowering your labor rate to something like $60 will still cover your labor by a 66% margin and not cause your customer to faint when he gets the bill.
On parts, do a sliding markup. I just use my gut sometimes. For instance, if I buy a thermostat gasket for 1.50, I won't hesitate to put it on the bill at $6. Anything below $20, use your gut. Anything from $20 to 100, do about 40%. Anything above $100 I do about 30% markup.
Also, make a CLEAR warranty statement that you can physically give to the customer. You'll get a zillion people who will try to jerk you for free stuff. For instance, we have a truck in the shop right now that we built the transmission. Now its shifting late. The problem was that the EPC solenoid in the transmission failed which is not a part that was replaced (or even touched) during our rebuild. The breakdown in communication was twofold - 1) the customer was not properly educated on what "rebuilding" a transmission involves. They thought that we gutted it and replaced everything but the case and the whole tranny was under warranty, and 2) he didn't read the warranty paper and felt entitled to a rental, a free tow, and lost wages. Since he signed a copy of the warranty when he picked up his truck the first time, he had no grounds for demanding it.
Also make sure your invoices are crystal clear on the work you performed. If you replace a ball joint, make sure it says "left front lower ball joint" instead of just "ball joint." That way if another ball joint fails, their is no legal question.
It all sounds so untrusting, but its just honesty and disclosure. Tell the whole truth, so you never have to cover your *** later. When all the cards are on the table, no one can accuse you of hiding an ace in your sleeve.
Look at this for example, McDonalds. The place is ran by 18 year olds and a 25 year old manager making 12 dollars an hour. No big experience, no big business mind. Nope, it is built on a great business plan and the people BEHIND it are the businessman.
Look at a "Maaco" auto painting or something like that, do they do real good work, are there any craftsmen there? Nope, but they make money because of the BUSINESSMAN or at the very least the business plan that the owner follows to a tee (the Maaco corp makes SURE you follow it).
So this great mechanic opens the shop, he doesn't know how to handle the money, he doesn't think marketing is important, he doesn't think anyone "knows" his business because it is so "different". The shop is full of dead horses because he doesn't value every square foot of the shop he is paying rent on. He has friends cars stored there. He gives friends deals. THAT is why he fails, he is a GREAT mechanic but he fails because he isn't a good businessman.
My point being you MUST become as good a businessman as you are a mechanic. And if you have a PASSION for the business side as you do for the mechanical side you WILL succeed. If you think the shop is so different and no one could understand or teach you something, you WILL fail.
And doing T&M (Time and Materials) or flat rate, it really doesn't matter. If what you charge when the car goes out the door is too low, you are looked at by the AVERAGE consumer as a someone who didn't do a good job. OR you are looked at as a shuck and they will be back to bury you some more!
If you charge too much, unless you are slicker than snot and really are all that and a bag of chips, you look like a thief.
|I see a lot of good advice here. I wish I had been told this much info before I took the plunge into business. I have been open for almost 2yrs. and it has been a crash course. My advice would be if you can afford the machine's to make life easier then do it, but they (machines) need to be running to pay for themselves. Friend's. don't let friends talk you into going into business. They will for the most part be the last one's that do business with you because you don't work cheap anymore. As for shop rate. If you are too low you will miss jobs because people will wonder why you are cheaper and will think they are not getting a quality product or service. Too high and they will think you did not do a good enough job. Always be specific what your customer is expecting (cheap, average,show,the best money can buy). Trust me you will have days that someone will come in a say that is way to high. Stick to your quote especially if you are not making much on it. Sometimes it is best to let them walk. Because if you are fair the good one's will come to you and they will come back if you treat them fairly. It will make you feel good when you charge someone fair price for the work and they tell you it's not enough for the work you done. "here is some more for your effort and treating me right". The other thing is do not build someone's project out of your pocket. Do a deposit and draw system for the work you have done and the parts bought for the job. In the end you need to be able to sleep at night , but also make aliving a what you love to do. That is a good feeling to have. Best of luck to you. Bryan Allen . . Allen Fabrication Service
|Thats some great advice and stuff to consider from ya'll.Thanks alot.Im going to be doing electrical,engine compartment design,engine detail and building engines.I have 28years of experience building hotrods and drag cars for me and my friends.I dont do chassis fab.I only do paint and body for me because I hate bodywork.I can do suspensions but I tend to be to slow at that.I want to build engines but I dont want the cars at my shop.Im working with a machine shop Ive used since I was 15 years old.My overhead is VERY low and its just me.MY shop is only 180.00 a month for a 12'x60'.All of my tools are paid for.So I no I can be cheaper than the big shops but I dont want to be to cheap.What work I want to do at my shop I am VERY good at.I dont want to do work Im not 100 percent comfortable with.
You can not figure what to charge for a rate until you know what your over head will be. You need to figure as close as possible what it will cost you per hour to keep the doors open. If you are in a labor intensive business you dont have as much parts markup to rely on like a general repair shop would have. We charge 75 per hour, so on a brake 2 wheel brake job we get .7 per wheel. That is 105 for labor, but we will also probably make another 75 markup on the parts.
We try as hard as possible to do every job as perfect as possible. Come backs can kill your profits in a hurry. I know everyone will think this labor is high but it takes time to do the job right, and quality parts cost more than the AZ crap . We take everything apart,sandblast all mating surfaces, re-lubricate everything and reassemble using a torque wrench. Customers don't mind paying if they are happy when they get their cars back.
Happy customers will come back and send their friends. Unhappy customers wont come back and they will tell everyone they talk to to avoid you.
Make sure you get paid when the cars leave the shop, you will not have time to chase money.
I have found that once you have built your reputation the money will come to you.. When first stating out you may have to give a little, But once you have your name out there, They will find you.. And like someone said there's no set book for the charges on chop top,New frames,body mods,and so on,, Charge what you feel you should get,(BE FAIR) And you will soon know if it's to much, are not enough,, If you have a waiting list to get in your shop, Like some do.. Then it might just be time to get paid more,, It isn't hard to find the spot you need to be at,, I have done job way back when, where I would get paid $$$$ and the guy would say.. I would have gladly paid you this much for what you did.. After hearing that a few times,, well you should know what to do..Like I said your work,skill level, and your reputation has a lot to do with getting the right amount of $$$$,, When I do a car. I treat it like I'm building it for me.. Give them what you would want.. And you will never be out of work...
And most of all,, Never set any limits on what you can do..even more with a hot rod shop...
We are pretty much on the same page and I am obviously not expressing myself well.
I have done PLENTY of custom one off fab work, and everything I said pertains to it as well as production work. Again, there really is no difference between a production shop and a fab shop or a tire shop or an ice cream vendor, business is business.
We have both said the same thing I will leave it at that.
|Oh, and before going back to the previous argument, MARTINSR, you can look up in a book how many hours is allowed for replacing X and painting Y, and in that situation your argument makes sense, where there is no book (that I know of) listing "chopping the top 3.5 inches on a X" and "custom fabricating a new spring perch for Y."
Martinsr, I think that you are 100% right WRT to some businesses, and WRT to what it takes to make a profit, but you're slightly missing the point about what you can charge in this kind of business.
Tubetek I think is dead on...
In your case you're coming from a fairly standardized business that in general, you know that it's going to cost so much to do X and it does that every time, occasionally you might run into hidden damage that will change it, but even that is pretty predictable in body work.
The sort of totally custom work that he's talking about getting into that approach is probably not realistic. The extra skill and equipment that you talk about being a cost/benefit analysis, that X should take Y hours and if something lets you get done in half the time that's added profit that you have to weigh against the extra cost won't fly in that kind of work. Most of the work does not have a set X hours value and sure, you can just assign one and charge that but it seems like that means that you're either screwing yourself when it takes longer or the customer when it takes shorter, and somehow, someone always gets some impression of that if that's what you're doing.
Instead, in this kind of work, the extra abilities (whether they're yours or some machine's) is the difference between being able to do work and not, stay in business or not... and you have to weigh if you need to be able to do it, or if you can farm it out for a reasonable charge...
My best suggestion is to take a job working in a similar shop for a while to get a feeling for what works and doesn't, and what type of work is around in your area and what services are missing (someplace you may corner the market or if there is a reason why someone should stay out of that part of the market, like you might find that _no matter what you do_ that with cerntine things the customers will never be quite happy, it either costs too much for 90% of them, or you can't compete with another company (in quality or price or final product) or something...).
You'll learn how much that shop and others charge for that work, how much of that work exists, what you really need to get that done and you'll probably get some impression of the types of employees available in the area, zoning, taxes, shop overhead, what you need to get the work done...
That said, I have worked in a shop like that in the area, I babysat the counter some times, and I also contracted work to the shop either doing custom work (making small custom parts...) and full installs/projects (they were more speed and muscle car oriented then strictly hotrod). I was the goto guy when something didn't exist anymore and they needed one for whatever project the shop was working on, and like I said, some of the projects eventually started coming home with me to my personal shop. I know what the shop owner was not able to get or what others were not able to make, what it took me to do it and how much I made and how much it got marked up to the customer. I know what the customers were happy with and what caused problems, and I made mistakes (thinking I was doing the right thing or even fixing a problem) on both ends, the actual fab work/installs and on the invoicing a customer/selling them parts/work end (in other words, I saw things that I thought were causing problems and found out why they were like they were as well as found things that could be done much better).
I found that I could build things well enough that I could charge more than the going rate for similar parts/work (that wasn't done as well as mine) and that customers were willing to pay more than what I needed my labor to be worth to make it worth my time, and that the owner of the shop could still mark up enough to cover his costs (including when accedents happen, that's important, **** happens in this kind of thing) and make a profit.
I ended up hanging a stop watch next to the door of the shop and would hit the start button when I walked in, stop button when I finished and would keep a log of my hours and billed accordingly, and found that for this kind of work, that almost always worked out better (both me and the customer were happier) then trying to work to a set price. Generally "this is what we need to do, but there can always be problems along the way, aftermarket parts don't always (usually? Ever?) fit and when they do they'll save money, when they don't fabbing stuff is your only choice...
And then I kept a photo log of the work, that way the customer could see what was happening (I could email them) with their stuff that was getting worked on off site, they would have pictures why something took longer than expected, and I would also have pictures to show manufacturer's of products if their stuff didn't work. Everyone understood what was going on and things were better that way.
There were a few things that I did for a set price, but they were things that I'd done dozens of times and I knew what they were going to cost and how long they will take, but if there was any question they got a quote and usually a call if there was a significant change (be aware that there are also state laws about automotive service work and estimates/charges, you need to know what applies and make sure your pricing/quotes cover you if they do apply).
No, that doesn't give you an exact $/hour. Sorry, I'm not in your area, I don't know what your abilities are, what equipment you have and what your overhead is. I can tell you that 3-5years ago, depending on the actual work that I was doing I could charge between $75 and 130/hr (or about 20% less if I'm contracting to another shop that is taking some of the risk and overhead off my hands) and locally the customers are happy with the work that they're getting for their money. Some of the smaller, piecemeal stuff I can make MUCH more if you work out an hourly rate because I have equipment others don't and can "assembly line" them and bulk order parts so I can do things faster and cheaper (and to be honest, the competition charges that much and if I charge significantly less that's as suspicious as charging more for the same work).
Of course, I live in a pretty expensive part of the country and the market has changed a lot the last couple of years, so that might not even give you a workable ballpark to figure off of. (3-5years ago because I went back to doing something in a totally different field since then)
VERY GOOD advice Kevin! LOL, the "friends" part, LOL.
EVERYONE is your "friend" when you own a shop! LOLOL. I had a fellow business owner in town who said the funniest, yet most profound thing ever on the subject. We both had the same customer who would go back and forth between us. This guy was odd to say the least, first off he couldn't read or write, but made good money working for the "Union Sanitary district", yep the guys who keep the sewers running nice. Good job, I'll give you that! Anyway, he was from Hawaii and so was this other business owner. In fact, they knew each other there. But they both spoke a Hawaiian broken English.
The guy that went back and forth between us had a chopped Deuce three window. Anyway, I was chatting with this other shop owner one day and he told me how the customer was trying to get him to do something for him and he called him his "Friend". LOL, I still laugh out loud with my brother when we remember this. The shop owner told me how he told the customer in his broken English. "You not my friend, you never come to my house for my boys birthday party, we never go fishing, we never go to ball game, you not my friend". LOLOLOL, is that profound or what! LOLOL He went on to say "you my customer, you only know me because I fix cars". Yep, so true so true.
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Yep I haven't seen one yet to use (steal)
They did do one for the Pistons actually. I don't remember exactly what players where in it, but I do know they had Stafford driving a boat. lol
I believe the photo also had Ernie and Kenny in a Kiss shirt and a Chrysler logo shirt in the boat with the 2 Kwames (Brown and Kilpatrick). AI was also in the photo... he was the man overboard.
Here they are!
Good one Latinoking... AI looks a little buzzed like he may been smoking the fish..
Those fish don't look so big. They don't even put much effort into their fishing trips, do they? Maybe they threw the big ones back so the remainder would all fit in Tay's suitcase?
Front paged. That picture is too funny.
Interesting. Sheed and AI heads on the ladys' frame. Good job here...
Even Obama's bailouts couldn't save Hienrick, Noah and Da Bulls
Now Wade has more time to practice his free throws and moves on Star Jones
Prince only wishes he had that much meat on his bones.
Marc Cuban didn't show up to the game...maybe they needed Avery to get past the Nuggets or even Ranger Walker to kick some sense into Kenyon Martin
Hey, hockey players can fish too. They are usually Canuckians, though, so they would be ice fishing. How about posting the Anaheim Quackers, Dre?
That's the best 'GONE FISHIN' picture so far...
LMAO!!! That's what Lebron gets for taking all those snapshots!!
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He had a colostomy at the age of 5 and according to rumor, he only has one testicle.
In the episode "The List", he was voted number one on the girls' list of cutest boys in class. It was eventually revealed that the girls voted for Clyde so they could go out with him and get free shoes since his father owns a shoe store at the mall.
Joining forces with Coon and Friends, Clyde also doubles as the superhero "Mosquito". His bold ideas and lemon bar recipes have helped countless in need.
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Did you Lease or Buy?
Hello everyone..
I went on Cadillac's website entered my zipcode and did a Build my own for ATS.
- 2.0 T AWD Premium
- Cold Weather, Sunroof & Security pkg
This is the quote I got on the estimate (depending on credit of course)
$422/month 36 month lease. $5,318 due at signing (after all offers). Includes security deposit. Tax, title, license, dealer fees. 45000 miles end of term , 0.20 per mile over. $MSRP 48,935 .. 36 mo payments total $15,192
I was exchanging emails with this Dealer in PA who can get me a hold of a Black Diamond 2014 2.0T AWD Premium w/ Cold Weather & Sunroof his price is $45579 out the door but then tells me teh $2,000 Incentives are not applicable in the lease (What the hell) ? then he says the best payment he can come up with is $531 x 36 w/ 15k miles & $5333 due at signing does this makes any sense?
When I reply and say I will do this through cadillac's website instead his reply is "Caddy's website doesn't tell me that NY state requires him(them) to collect another $3000 in sales tax, tag fees & reg fees as well.. which puses the payment to $531.. If I wanted to put $8300 down the monthly would be $430. We aren't licensed in NY so we are charge dabout $400-500 more in fees which raised your payment about $15
PS... This is my first lease so want to make sure I get the best possible deal.
Here's how to do it.
Negotiate the best price as if it were a purchase (and yes the $2000 is not available to a lease)
Check the residual values for different terms, sometimes it might be better to do 39 months rather than 36
The residual is calculated from the MSRP.
What you pay is the difference from the negotiated price and the residual. - Depreciation Fee
They will quote an interest rate, but it is really a money factor, so divide the interest rate by 2400 and that will give you the money factor.
The finance fee is (net cap cost+residual) x money factor
Depreciation fee is (net cap cost-residual)/ term
Monthly payment is finance fee+depreciation fee
Oh, and never put money down on a lease. Especially now, money is really cheap.
Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
I leased.
2013 ATS4 3.6L Premium with everything except the Driver Assist Package and Security package.
I pay $488 per month, zero down, zero due for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year.
I think I got a great deal.
- 07-22-13 02:43 AM #4Cadillac Owners Master
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Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
That's a great deal! Tax is included or not? Also did you get any employee or any other special discount that brought your payments down?
Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
Bought. Ordered our ATS. By the time it arrived there was a zero percent interest purchase option, so took that rather than pay cash. Was pretty surprised they automatically rolled well over 4 grand of taxes and registration into the loan, so no outlay at time of delivery. Among the reasons I don't lease is because I don't like being locked into a car for any amount of time.
Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
Leased, I got such a dirty deal I couldn't say no haha! I get bored of cars quickly, and after 3 years I know I'll want something else, leasing just works for me, I dont put many KM on cars, and after 3 years I can just drop it off, walk away, none of the issues the car will develop will be my issue and I can step right into something else.
and lets be honest... at my age being able to drive this around is a privilege, I know I could "own" something cheaper, but I'd rather be driving this thing around then owning a cobalt or soemthing right?
- 07-22-13 10:04 PM #7Cadillac Owners Fanatic
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Leased because I'm hoping to get out early in a couple years for a V! Or go bigger when my kids get bigger like a cts v or an xts v. Would love to get out early in a couple years for an ats v but unfortunately my kids will be 8 and 3 by then so the size of an ats v might be an issue. And lastly I have a hard time buying my first "luxury" sedan and spending this much money in case I don't like it or feel it's worth it. Unfortunately, even though I really like much of what the car has to offer, I'm not sure I'd have been happy buying a 45,000 car that has the problems it does. Not as impressed as I'd hoped to be. Problems after 2,000 miles include replaced onstar unit, replaced fuel pressure sensor, replaced gas tank, moldy air conditioning smell at startup, loose/ creaky drivers seat and stumbling idle.
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Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
OP, there's a question in your title, but there's no follow through.
Have you priced out what an actual loan rate would be for this car?
There's very attractive 0% financing for 60 months right now. Those kinds of rates are getting a lot harder to come by today.
BMW advertises a 3% rate for example.
If you like to move in and out of cars once every 2-3 years, leasing may be convenient, but only if you truly consider them disposable things, and you need to then think of the car as a glorified rental contract (because it is) you're responsible for beyond what's considered normal wear and tear, which you might otherwise just ignore on a car you actually own.
As someone that's had 2 prior leases, the ATS is 100% financed through a 1.99% rate. I'm actually only paying a few hundred less than my V because of my mistakes going through a lease, but sometimes you need to learn the hard way I suppose.
If you have any thoughts of owning the car, trading it in early or going beyond the boundaries of the contract, my advice would be to weigh your options carefully. Leasing only makes sense in the aspect that you strictly adhere to the guidelines of the lease.
I want to keep this car for 7 years or so. With our rates in Canada the math said to lease and buy out in four years. Lease rate was low enough that money is better invested.
- 07-23-13 05:55 PM #12Cadillac Owners Fanatic
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Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
I always bought rather than leased and used the trade-in as the DP on my new car. Traded in a 08 CTS when I bought my 2013 ATS and they gave me the option of giving them the CTS and driving out in a ATS leased for 3 years without having to give them a cent ever. Passed on that and bought the car.
Zero % financing wasn't available in Feb, but even if it was, the rebates were worth more. At 2.76% my total finance charges are a little over 1k so any rebates over 1k in lieu of zero % financing makes it better to take the rebates and find your own financing.
- 07-23-13 10:05 PM #13Cadillac Owners Member
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Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
bought as put way too many miles on a car...2k a month to lease one...so purchased base 2.5L model for $33K out the door...TTL included....only option was CUE.......its my daily commuter with a 12 SRX Performance for the road trips.....
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Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
I leased mine. 2013 Premium RWD Auto Black/MR, 2.0l. Moon Roof, Heated Seats/Steering Wheel, Drivers Assist (but not the 3k security package) $435 for 3 years, 10k a year, zero down. I tend to lease as I like a new car every 3 years as that seems to be my limit of wanting to own one so a lease works well for me.
Re: Did you Lease or Buy?
Bought mine. I took advantage of the 36 Month 0%. Although I like a new car more often I usualy keep them for 6 years. I pay them off usualy within 36 months and this way I can save the post loan payment money and put it toward the new car. This gives me the option of paying cash when interest rates are higher.


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Winter citrus adds a splash of color to your holiday table whether served as a salad, side, or dessert. These salads simplify dinner, too—many are make-ahead.
Winter Fruit SaladCombine colorful winter citrus fruits with pineapple and kiwi and top with pomegranate seeds to make it special.
Winter Jeweled Fruit Salad'Tis the season for juicy citrus, so take advantage by adding a colorful fruit salad to your holiday table. In Mexico, copas de frutas (fruit cups) are popular street food. They typically consist of fresh fruit sprinkled with lime juice and chili powder and are the inspiration for this jewel-colored fruit salad.
Strawberry-Marmalade SaladThis recipe packs a zing—and with only four ingredients. It would be a flavorful addition to favorite Christmas side dishes. You can prepare it up to four hours in advance, which also makes it a natural side for your lunch bag.
Sparkling White-Sangria SaladTo many families, it isn't a holiday dinner without a gelatin salad. This rendition uses Riesling, but for a nonalcoholic version, substitute sparkling white grape juice. Either packs the crisp, refreshing taste of tropical Sangría.
Strawberry-Orange SaladAdd a burst of color to your holiday table with a refreshing fruit salad made with strawberries and navel oranges. Drizzle the fruit with a cool basil syrup, made from leaves steeped in water with sugar, and chill for at least 30 minutes before serving.
Rum-Spiked Winter CompoteThis warm-and-lovely compote sings with the tart flavors of winter fruit. Try it spooned over vanilla ice cream or pound cake, or use it as a novel substitute for cranberry sauce
Tropical Fruit SaladThis golden salad was inspired by the flavors of West Africa, where it often doubles as a dessert. As a side, it works well with a smoky grilled fish or a spicy pork tenderloin.
Layered Fruit Congealed SaladNot your grandmother's congealed salad, this elegant update forgoes the mini-marshmallows and canned fruit for beautiful, ripe raspberries and sweet, fresh oranges.
Citrus Salad with Balsamic Honey and PistachiosBlood oranges are a little bit tart; navels are sweeter--try a mix of the two for a colorful, tasty combo.
Moroccan-Spiced OrangesThis simple salad is a light and refreshing way to end a heavy holiday meal, and the aroma of citrus and cinnamon evokes the scents of the season.
Rhubarb, Pear, and Apple CompoteThough rhubarb is the star of this sauce, sweet apples and pears help cut its characteristically sour flavor. Use this compote as an accompaniment to savory entrées, such as pork or poultry. Or serve it as a dessert with a dollop of whipped topping.
Gingered AmbrosiaOur tangy recipe breathes new life into a centuries-old Southern favorite. Fresh ginger and mint leaves add loads of flavor without a gram of fat.
Ambrosia with Chantilly CreamThe original ambrosia recipe is simply a layering of orange slices, sugar, and toasted unsweetened coconut. Over the years, folks began to add pineapple, maraschino cherries, and whipped cream to create more of a fruit salad, but the name stuck.
Fresh Fruit with Lemon-Mint SauceThis refreshing breakfast or dessert salad has a secret—it's perfect for cold-and-flu season. Oranges, grapefruits, and lemons are packed with vitamin C, the antioxidant that helps boost the immune system, fight infection, and protect the body against influenza.
Francie's Fruit SaladYou can make this simple fruit salad with whatever fruit is in season. The flavor secret is the candied ginger syrup.
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Mysteries of the Hearth
Finally, autumn has come to the Willamette Valley here in Oregon. I say "finally," although summer is brief enough here and most Oregonians would probably wish for a few more weeks of it. Autumn, however, is my favorite time of year and I look forward to it year-round. The early morning crispness has changed to a genuine chill that lingers through more of the day, the acorns have started to fall and the squirrels scamper after them, eager to begin fortifying their nests against the winter. The leaves have begun to turn color and soon their branches will become a canopy of gold, scarlet and pumpkin orange. It is September, and my thoughts turn to my home, my own nest, and to what fortifications I might make now to make it a welcoming and nourishing place in the months to come.
What is the center of your home, its heart? For most Americans, the answer would probably be "the television." However, hopefully that is not the case with the average pagan, and a few of you have probably guessed where I'm going with this: in traditional European pagan cultures from Greece to Scandinavia, the center of a household was the hearth. However, there is room for a little interpretation in what constitutes the hearth for you.
Let's back up a little. Etymologically, the word "hearth" comes to us from the West Germanic "hertho" and means "burning place." Right away this evokes the mysteries of fire, hinting at a more than purely utilitarian purpose for the hearth, and inviting comparison with two other places where things were traditionally burned: the temple, where sacrifices were put into fire pits for the gods of the wind and air (as the Aesir--Frigga's tribe by marriage--are), and the crematorium, where the followers of these aerial/celestial gods were immolated after death. These nuances of animal sacrifice and cremation may not be a welcomed addition to your dinner preparations, but think about it: unless you're vegan, what else are you really doing when you cook food? The only thing missing in most modern households is the religious connection, the honoring of the slain animal and blessing the food while offering up a first portion--the best portion--to the gods. (There is no reason why we cannot still do these things today, by the way, even if we buy our meat in a supermarket.)
The hearth is a place of fire, and fire is a great mystery, a living entity that from time immemorial has agreed to cooperate with man, offering comfort and destruction alike. Nothing that fire touches can be simply one of these things or the other--purely nurturing, or solely destructive. Wildfires, for example, are certainly destructive, yet many seeds cannot grow unless they have been scarred by fire, and fires clear away the underbrush that interferes with the growth of new trees. The hearth, as a place of burning, carries these mysteries at its very core, as do the goddesses who tend the hearth, of which Frigga is one. Being a hearthkeeper (or a homemaker, for that matter) is neither a simple nor a banal thing.
As the place where food was cooked, the hearth also naturally became a place for people to gather. It was a haven of warmth and nourishment, where meals were enjoyed by the family and visitors, and the news of the day was shared. Even when mealtime was not imminent, the women of the household could usually be found gathered by the hearth, swapping stories or information while their busy fingers worked at the ancient textile arts of spinning, weaving or stitching. (Textiles provided the family with shelter and comfort when away from home; they could be considered, in effect, a moveable home--which gives an idea of their importance to human civilization.) The latter scenario was largely the same even in the case of medieval highborn women or queens, who would have had a fire in their own privy chamber and women around them with whom to spend the day stitching and talking. (The "stitch and bitch" being not that new a phenomenon after all.)
The Havamal--an Icelandic text whose title means "Words of the High One" (the High One being Odin)--tells us that when a visitor arrived at a household, he was given a place by the fire "to warm his knees" in return for news or entertainment, the old fashioned version of television. A household was widely judged according to its hospitality--a word that comes to us from the Latin "hostis," meaning "to have power." In Northern Europe especially, hospitality was a matter of survival, and a hearthkeeper--the woman who carried the keys in a household, who had the right to admit or deny entry to it--wielded the power of life or death over visitors; if you didn't take in a man who had been struggling a long distance in the cold and offer him a place by your fire, a hot meal, and a bed for the night, he might very well die of exposure. And once again the darker connotations of the hearth, its role as a place of death as well as nurturing, become clear, as does the special status, the sovereignty, of the one who keeps it.
In the Northern tradition, it is Frigga Herself, the queen of the Aesir, who is primary goddess of the hearth and home. This is a bit strange, from the perspective of other pantheons; it is generally not the queen Herself who tends the hearth. (Just as it is not usually the king who is the principle god of magic, or of war, or of journeying.) But although She does have attendants who assist Her (the nine or twelve goddesses often referred to as Her Handmaidens), the task is primarily Hers. In the Northern traditions, it is the wife--the holder of the keys--who is keeper of the hearth and the symbolic heart of the home. This fact recalls what I said in my introductory post about Frigga fitting the model of a very early medieval queen. In the early middle ages, sometimes popularly called the "dark ages," kings were more likely to be glorified warlords who had leadership over a tribe of people loosely related by blood and marriage, rather than over what we would think of today as a "nation." As a result, the king had to be a very capable and preferably also charismatic man with a broad spectrum of abilities, as he would need to take a hand in every facet of his tribe's functioning, from warfare to food supplies to how the horses were stabled. The king's wife, in turn, had a hand in every aspect of running the royal household, from gathering eggs to stitching linens and weaving wool to selecting cuts of meat. The idyllic image of the Northern queen greeting visitors with a horn of mead in hand is but a small part of the picture; these were working queens, royal homemakers. This is Frigga's role in Odin's household, and this is one of the many things she can teach us to do for ourselves, in our own lives: to create a center for ourselves, a hearth, a heart for our homes.
All of which is fine in theory, but here is where we run into a few logistical problems. First, where is the hearth itself to be located in a modern household? Many people--myself included--have such a small kitchen that it barely offers enough room for one person to stand and cook; the idea that it could form a hub for family activity is out of the question. Also, where does this "heart of the household" business leave those of us who are not part of a traditional American "nuclear" family?
Let's step back a moment and reconsider the idea of the hearth as a safe haven, a center of warmth and nourishment. Even if you are a single woman (or man) living alone, don't you need a welcoming place such as this to return to at the end of your workday? And even if you are a single person living alone and not a wife by any stretch of the imagination, you are still the "holder of the keys" in your household. Even if that household is but a tiny apartment with a single key to the front door, you alone hold that key, you alone control access to your safe haven, and you can be the keeper of your own hearth. (And yes, this does apply also to a man living alone, if he wishes it to. While hearthkeeping is traditionally a feminine mystery, there are so many areas, these days, in which the traditional roles of both genders overlap that there is no point in drawing too fine a line here. Just as countless men honor goddesses, if you are a man and wish to create a hearth for yourself, go for it!)
A hearth can transform a house or apartment into a home. And if we bring in the symbolic connections of the temple and the dead once more, we can see how a hearth can provide a welcoming place for a household's beloved gods and ancestors as well--for in Heathenry these two groups are definitely to be treated and considered as part of the family. As a god-spouse, being a hearthkeeper and a homemaker takes on an additional meaning for me as I seek to maintain a welcoming home for my Husband, Odin.
How to begin? As it happens, my own home is currently in need of an active hearth, a central place for my family, gods and spirits to gather for warmth, socializing, fiber arts activities (of course!) and religious ritual. Currently, there is the too-small kitchen, the living room where my partner and I each have our shrines to our respective god-husbands and where the computer lives on our shared writing desk, and the bedroom where I spin and where we gather for story time. (Yes, we read aloud or listen to audiobooks in place of television!) These are all spokes on the wheel that makes up our household, but there is a need for a center, a hub to hold it all together, and, as we have seen, in order to qualify as a hearth that center needs to be a place of burning. Since we cannot install a fireplace, this will require a little imagination.
Winter calls, and it's high time for us to begin this task. If this is something you're feeling called to do as well, I invite you to join me for my next post and we'll set about it together!
P.S. On another topic altogether, those who read my post here from last month, on pagan veiling, may be a little puzzled by my new profile photo. If you're curious, I talk a little about my decision to veil more sporadically, and my newly blue hair, on my own blog. Cheers!
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Sunday, 02 September 2012
I really love the picture you found to post along with this!
Despite the prevalence of Hestia-as-hearth practice within Hellenism, I've maintained that Poseidon is my hearth, and that's always been a very good thing for me and my path . . . and it's always made better by having physical representation of such. My goal, as you know, is to have my gods and spirits, period, be the center of my life, and having that communal hearth-shrine is amazing for that. We've had it, we've mostly always had it, and I didn't realize how much I missed it until last night.
I think we're on the right track!
Sunday, 02 September 2012
What a lovely post! We *are* one of those families whose living room is dominated by a screen (though we rarely watch network -- or anything with commercials on it) although we have an actual hearth. (Two of them, in fact, but we light a fire there only rarely.) The heart of our home is our kitchen table in our generously-sized kitchen with a lovely picture window that looks out on the entrance to our home. Even in our old 1200 square foot home (where we mostly raised our 3 kids before moving to Oregon and much bigger digs) the kitchen table was front-and-center. I've been in homes of friends and relatives in which the kitchen is cluttered and the table overwhelmed with "stuff" (and meals take place in front of the tv which is a complete taboo in my book) and it always makes me very uneasy. Now, I think I know why I've always jealously guarded and sought out a sacred space in my kitchen. Thanks for the insight.
Sunday, 02 September 2012
In all honesty, we only don't have a TV at this point because we abused the privilege back in PA by watching too many episodes of "Iron Chef" and "How do I look", so when we moved to Oregon we promised ourselves we would not get one, or that if we did we would use it only for movies and not get cable service. I am getting to the point, though, after four years of watching Dr. Who and the very occasional movie on a laptop screen, where I would actually enjoy owning a flat screen!
I envy your hearth! The kitchen table is a very traditional and respectable heart for the American home--although sadly more so twenty years ago than it is today. After my father died (when I was 13) I grew up in one of those households where the kitchen table was just a junk repository; I ate in front of the TV and my mother at the kitchen sink, and I am definitely the poorer for it, though in this case we kept different schedules so she was not really at fault. Still, it makes me uneasy too and I certainly did not raise my daughter this way!
Jolene and I have had a "hearth center" (if not an actual hearth) in every house we've lived in together before this one, and we recently realized that it's the one thing we've been lacking, living here. Time to fix that!
Tuesday, 04 September 2012
I always liked the meal prayer given by poet Gary Snyder ever since I first read it: "Thank you for this food, the work of many hands, and the sharing of many forms of life." It's simple and nonsectarian.
Also I like the way the word "husbandman" used to be used in pre-industrial times... as a thrifty manager of property and of a household. The husband was not only married to the Hearthkeeper (I'm not trying to put gender roles on these things...) but was also married to the Land. Whereas a King may have been responsible for and married to the Land on a larger basis as head of the entire tribe, as you pointed to, the Husbandman was married to the Land of their immediate property and environs.
Either way I think we need both Hearthkeepers and Husbandmans.
In my own family we are lucky enough to have an old Chambers gas stove that was my mothers... and we do often sit around the table. I like this old Chambers stove from the 40's because the fire in it, as the pilot light, is always lit. It's always warm there whether we are cooking or not. We also have three (non-working) hearths/fire places in our home. On the mantelpiece of one of them I keep my ancestral shrine.
Tuesday, 04 September 2012
Beth, I forgot to mention... I'll be following your series of posts with great interest!
Friday, 07 September 2012
Thank you, Justin! *g*
Yes, I agree that we definitely need both Hearthkeepers and Husbandsman--and I love that term. It perfectly captures the concept of having a sacred duty to care for and tend to the needs of one's immediate land, as a king on a smaller scale, just as every woman is queen on a smaller scale within her own home.
I have to say that I'm envious of your antique gas stove; that sounds lovely! I would have a wood burning stove if we owned our house instead of just renting, but as it is I'll just have to settle for the heavenly smell that fills the air from all the wood burners in Eugene around this time of year. That smell is one of my favorite harbingers of fall!
One idea I've come across for non-working hearths is to put an iron cauldron in the fireplace and fill it with candles. (Beeswax only, of course!)
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Dear Lucy
It seems that I now get both sides of the same coin - my last enquiry concerned small, quiet well behaved classes; now (same school, same classroom, different group) I am faced with loud, large classes and more than my fair share of disicplne problems.
The setup:
2 groups of young men taking apprenticeships, all between 16 (! - so young!) and 21/22 whose three year technical courses includes 3 years of cumpulsory English but no exam. Of the courses, one is in their second year, and, according to the school director, 'a bit wild'; the other in their first year and not yet as bad.
An administrative cock-up meant the last tutor and to leave and I've been rustled up to fill in.
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See my previous posts.
My request: Tips and advice for improving class discipline and attitude which are proven to work with hormonally unstable (i.e. normal) young men who enjoy playing up to their crowd of friends, have to suffer learning a langugage they think they don't need, taught by a relative novice in a small hot room on a Thursday morning when we would all rather be elsewhere…
Specfic issues:
1. Near constant talking (in L1)
2. Professed 'zero' knowledge of English (vocal minority)
3. Mobile phones in every pocket (and loud protestations/denials of having touched it when confiscated)
4. Percieved irrelevancy of subject
5. Loudest (also lasiest) students negatively impacting others - snide comments, etc
6. Small room gets blocked eaisly - hard to monitor students at back
Ideas to try after half term (in ten days)
1. Consult students on preferred room layout - what would they like? I for one want to seat them in a circle as it will only give them one ommedite neighbour
2. Discuss some class rules - and agree on fitting punishments if broken.
3. I'm new to the school, and want to discuss what the support would be from the director if I want to send a student out of the lesson.
4. It's a 'team sport oriented professional school', meaning there is a huge emphasis on team sport, exercise and healthy living. I intend to take some of the lessons outside to get them running around a bit - better than being cooped up inside. If you have any suggestions…
In short, feeling close in age to the students (I'm a youthful 29); not having instruction on dealing with discipline issues, and expecting all students to be a younger version of myself (intelligent, keen, reasonable, devilishly handsome and modest) I'm finding it hard to cope.
Help me snap out of it!
Kind regards
P.S. Sorry this is so long, I didn't have time to make it shorter!


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I am planning on teaching English abroad once I graduate with my B.A. (in a little over a year) and would like to get a TEFL certificate. There is something called a "UC extension" in my city, which is connected with the University of California system but is not actually part of the university, that gives TESL certificates. I worry about trying to get a TEFL certificate through distance learning and having it turn out to be worthless because it was not accredited or something along those lines, so I would feel safer going with the UC extension. However, the UC extension gives "TESL" certificates...is there any difference between that and a TEFL certificate? Will it be accepted in the same way by prospective employers, or will it not qualify?
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Way to go blanc--- this swarm came from one of your hives?
blanc,Awesome....Got to love that you found the queen, I know that saved me from losing the swarm Schawee helped me with Thursday. :)I know being able to spot the queen is high on my list of things I want to accomplish as a newbie beek...That along with getting them to like me a little more and not want to sting me. :-D
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From there, Hansard quickly gathered a group of fellow buskers and formed the Frames. Unfortunately, quick accolades proved daunting for Hansard and the Frames, whose grunge-influenced release Another Love Song came and went without selling much. Island Records responded by dropping the group. To distract himself from the disappointment, Hansard took on the role of Outspan Foster, a guitarist in the famed Alan Parker film The Commitments. He would later admit that he shouldn't have taken the role, as it merely placated his struggle with making music. But a trip to New York gave Hansard the space and time to dream it all up again, and with a newfound focus, he wrote the guitar-blazing anthem "Revelate" and "Say It to Me Now." Both songs eventually landed on the Frames' proper debut album, Fitzcarraldo, which was released in 1996 and helped make the Frames a popular group in Ireland.
Over the next decade, Hansard and the Frames continued releasing albums while also becoming one of Ireland's finest live acts. In 2003, Hansard played host to Other Voices: Songs from a Room, a popular television show featuring Ireland's best in new music. Three years later, while the Frames readied the release of their sixth effort, The Cost, Hansard unveiled a new side project called the Swell Season. The acoustic-based group featured his collaborations with Czech songstress Markéta Irglová. He and Irglová also appeared as working-class immigrants in the Irish movie Once, which debuted at the Sundance Film Festival in 2007 and won an Oscar later that year. Thanks to the movie's success (not to mention its popular soundtrack, Once: Music from the Motion Picture, which featured the band's music), the Swell Season became a popular act in Ireland and abroad, leading to the release of a mature sophomore album in 2009.
Rhythm and Repose, Hansard's solo debut released by Anti in 2012, was produced by Thomas Bartlett (the National, Antony & the Johnsons) and inspired by the singer/songwriter's year and a half spent as a denizen of New York City. Later in 2012, Hansard's track "Take the Heartland" appeared on the Hunger Games soundtrack, and the following year he joined up with Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder to record a cover of Bruce Springsteen's "Drive All Night," which was included on an EP of the same name issued in November by Anti in support of music education charity Little Kids Rock. In 2015, Hansard released It Was Triumph We Once Proposed: Songs of Jason Molina, an EP in which Hansard presented reworked interpretations of five songs by his late friend Molina, best known for his work with Songs: Ohia and Magnolia Electric Co. In September 2015, Hansard returned with a new album of original material, Didn't He Ramble, followed by an American concert tour. ~ MacKenzie Wilson
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|Many of my discussions about WebSphere CloudBurst script packages revolve around their use in packaging up WebSphere Application Server administration scripts. While that may be the most typical use case for these script packages, it certainly is not the only use case. You need only look at the way we integrate WebSphere CloudBurst pattern deployments with Rational Automation Framework for WebSphere projects in order to understand that the script package mechanism is extremely flexible and powerful.
|I point this out about script packages because recently I put one together that is not a WebSphere Application Server administration task, but does provide configuration logic common to many WAS deployments. Specifically, I put together a script package that configures an IBM HTTP Server to be a reverse proxy server. This of course, allows clients to send requests to the IBM HTTP Server and have those requests pass through to a specified back-end destination (i.e. a service hosted on WebSphere Application Server) based on URI paths.
|The script package is not all that different from many of the ones I put together. It contains a shell script (which provides configuration and orchestration logic) as well as a cbscript.json file that defines the script package's characteristics when I upload it into WebSphere CloudBurst. The notable difference in this script package is that I include a Perl script that modifies the IBM HTTP Server configuration file. This just reiterates the point that you are not limited to only wsadmin and shell scripts within your script packages.
|The workings of the script package are quite straightforward. It starts with a call to the shell script that modifies the IBM HTTP Server's configuration file to ensure the loading of a couple proxy modules:
sed -i s/"#LoadModule proxy_module modules\/mod_proxy.so"/"LoadModule proxy_module modules\/mod_proxy.so"/g $HTTP_CONF
|As you can see, the createProxy.pl script accepts a single argument. This argument represents the reverse proxy configuration information provided by the user during deployment. The Perl script parses the single argument and creates the appropriate proxy directives in the IBM HTTP Server's configuration file:
open (CONF_FILE, '>>/opt/IBM/HTTPServer/conf/httpd.conf');
|After the invocation of the script above, control returns to the shell script. The shell script restarts the IBM HTTP Server so that the configuration changes take place. The result is an up and running IBM HTTP Server acting as a reverse proxy based on information supplied during deployment. The listings here do not show the full script package, but I hope to have it up on our WebSphere CloudBurst Samples Gallery soon.
|If the script above provides some configuration logic you can use, that is good. However, my main point for bringing it up here is to point out that WebSphere CloudBurst script packages can be more than shell and wsadmin scripts that perform WebSphere Application Server configuration tasks. You can use them to do any sort of scripted activity that is essential to your application middleware deployment process. Happy scripting!
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FUNDING ALERT Vol. 6 No. 9
April 15, 2010
National Resource Center on Domestic Violence & National Sexual Violence Resource Center
The FUNDING ALERT provides a synopsis of the available funding that can be used by individuals and/or agencies working to end domestic violence and sexual assault.
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Government Funding
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Billie's Backpackers Hostel
Billie's Backpackers hostel is a modern, casual, clean comfortable home-style hostel with a very friendly atmosphere.
There are no more than 4 persons to a room. Sometimes the arrangement is co-ed. You have access to several shared kitchens, bathrooms, common rooms, decks and yard space.
Facilities include free linens, free storage, free tea/coffee, high-speed internet, guide books and maps, hammocks, BBQ, coin-operated laundry, pay phone and bike rentals.
The hostel is an excellent location on the city bus route in the university district, close to shops, pubs and bike/nature trails.
There are daily shuttles from the hostel to Denali, Anchorage,also shuttles Valdez, Dawson City and Whitehorse.
Billie's Backpacker Hostel is a great place to begin your adventure in interior Alaska and you won't find a place with a more comfortable friendly atmosphere.
Disponibilidad y preciosPara ver la disponibilidad y los precios, selecciona las fechas y pincha "Actualizar fechas"
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- Recepción 24 horas
- Barbacoa
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- Sin límite de hora
- No fumadores
- Terraza al aire libre
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- Luz de lectura
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- Baño de Vapor
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BY SHUTTLE: If you are coming from Whitehorse, Denali, Dawson City Yukon, Anchorage or Valdez by shuttle, Alaska Trails, and Alaska Direct will drop you off directly here. Ask your driver about this service.
The hostel is located about 10 minutes by car (1 hour walk) from the Fairbanks International Airport. About 5 minutes from downtown Fairbanks.
Ask the Driver to take you to Billie's Backpackers on the corner of Westwood and Mack. The one-way fare should be about $16 from either the City Center, Airport or Rail Station.
City bus service is offered MON-SAT from the University, Aiport or the City Center. From the Bus Depot take the #10 - Red Line towards the Univeristy. Get off at Westwood Way. Walk one block. First building on the left. Look for the international flags
From the City Center: (about a 25 minute walk). Walk North on Cushman until you come to College Road. Then left towards the University. Look for Westwood Way (about one mile after you pass by the State Fairgrounds). Left on Westwood. We are the first building on the left. a sign that says 'Billie's' and international flags flying marks the hostel.
From the Airport: (about an hour walk). towards town on Airport Road, left on University Ave., right on College, right on Westwood Way. First building on the left. A sign that says 'Billie's' and international flags flying over the hostel..
Hostel Address: 2895 Mack Blvd. Fairbanks


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Ok so my mk2 golf has a fairly bad rust spot attacking the front drive strut tower. How do I go Abbott fixing this or is it even worth it. Oh and to top it off its my daily at the moment
Ok so my mk2 golf has a fairly bad rust spot attacking the front drive strut tower. How do I go Abbott fixing this or is it even worth it. Oh and to top it off its my daily at the moment
Do you know how to weld?
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Does not sound good. Anything is fixable. I have heard of others cutting the tower out of a junk car and welding it in to the rust car. can you post a pic?
I finally fixed my sig
post up a picture ,
i'm learning how to weld and let me tel you its not an easy thing to learn. I'm working at monro brake and muffler and welding on exhaust isn't as easy as it looks.....if someone can give me a little instruction on how to make it a little easier i'd appreciate it, its not easy wanting to work on a vw when (A) you don't have one (B) none of your friends work on cars so it's all up to me.
Yeah idk how to Welds I'll post a pic ton. My cousin its certified but zero equipment
Welding isn't tough at all - at least quick and dirty MIG welding isn't tough. A quality machine and a few hours of instruction is all ya need for the basics. Your car needs work - perfect time to hit up a local vocational school and take a course. I paid like $125-150 (really cheap) locally to take a basic MIG/TIG course.
I'd love to but sadly don't haves the time right now.my cousin was a welder in the military and he's good but just no equipment.
duct tape.
Rent a welder and buy your cousin beer.
Now see I didn't think I of that. How much they run
Home depot
Like $25 for 4 hours or something
and watch some videos on youtube.
weldingtipsand tricks.com
By far the best how to short videos, and the guy does it for the enjoyment of the profession.
He explains technique and theory all while you watch the welding.
It is not all that hard, it takes seat time and patience.
Clean the surface is key to a proper repair.
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It comes as no surprise that, as a kid, Jeopardy! legend Ken Jennings slept with a bulky Hammond world atlas by his pillow every night. Maphead recounts his lifelong love affair with geography and explores why maps have always been so fascinating to him and to fellow enthusiasts everywhere. Jennings takes listeners on a world tour of geogeeks from the London Map Fair to the bowels of the Library of Congress, from the prepubescent geniuses at the National Geographic Bee to the computer programmers at Google Earth. Each chapter delves into a different aspect of map culture: highpointing, geocaching, road atlas rallying, even the "unreal estate" charted on the maps of fiction and fantasy. He also considers the ways in which cartography has shaped our history, suggesting that the impulse to make and read maps is as relevant today as it has ever been.
From the "Here be dragons" parchment maps of the Age of Discovery to the spinning globes of grade school to the postmodern revolution of digital maps and GPS, Maphead is filled with intriguing details, engaging anecdotes, and enlightening analysis. If you're an inveterate map lover yourself---or even if you're among the cartographically clueless who can get lost in a supermarket---let Ken Jennings be your guide to the strange world of mapheads.
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"[Jennings is] alive to the larger meaning of maps as they overlay knowledge, desire, and aspiration onto the mute reality of terrain. The result is a delightful mix of lore and reportage that illuminates the longing to know where we are." (Publishers Weekly Starred Review)
"A Romp through Maps"
I approached Ken Jennings' new book, Maphead: Charting the Wide, Weird World of Geography Wonks, without expectations. I was pleasantly surprised with what I found. In autobiographical chapters he tells of his early interest in maps and considers the type of people who are drawn to maps (pardon the pun). Jennings spends some time telling the reader about the rarified world of map collectors and of the national geography competition entertained by high school students across the country. The more interesting sections to me were related to the development of Google Maps and their impact on map making and our conceptualization of the world. He describes Google Maps as a one-to-one representation of the globe and wonders if Google Maps will bring the end to map making as we have known it. Essentially, I found Maphead to be an engaging, entertaining, interesting, and informative romp through everything map related. Kirby Heybone does a grand job of reading the text.
"Interesting, engaging, and laugh out loud funny"
Even as someone who isn't that into geography, this was something that kept my attention all the way through. Funny anecdotes, interesting ideas and good pacing.
Also, I want to highlight Mr. Heyborne's narration - it really added to the experience. I usually prefer when a book is read by the author, but I can't imagine anyone doing a better job adding life to the text.
I'm Stephen, Rebecca's husband.
"I'm a Maphead!"
This is an interesting and unusual book, but not a life-changing one for me.
I love maps, and want to know more about geography and history; but I am not really interested in all the numerous clubs and peoples who set, in some cases, very unusual goals in their geographical pursuits.
The author himself is the most interesting of the characters of the book.
Mapheads Gone Wild!
As a geek and map lover- this was a fun book to read over break. I learned a few new things, but just as importantly got to have the moments of " it is not just me". I recommend this to anyone who likes maps or watches the weather channel for fun.
"Mapheads Unite"
If you like maps, geocaching, National Geographic GeoBee, history, etc then you will enjoy this book. It covers a variety of topics in depth while pacing itself well. The author includes personal stories, love of topic, and experiences researching for the book.
Narrator did well and I enjoyed the book.
I ask that Audible start including pdf's of the pictures included within printed version of books. This would have increased the enjoyment of this book given the topic. I think this is a good book for audible with pictures of the maps really adding to it.
"Interesting and engaging"
As a map head myself, I loved it, but the mispronunciations by the reader were distracting (Samuel Pepys, the Thames River, trompe l'oeuil, and more)
"I have no idea who the audience for this book is."
Maybe it's me, because I really enjoyed it. Ken Jennings is a clever and witty dude whose mildly sarcastic observations on mildly kooky folks comes off as lovable rather than snarky. This is definitely a niche topic, but even if your interest in maps and geography isn't keen, the humorous prose and spot-on narration make it a good use of your time.
"Or, how cool am I?"
See above. There is very little in this book for map lovers except to learn how cool you are for liking maps, how special people who like maps, and pedantic worry about the future of map lovers.
"Why aren't there more map nerds?"
Dyspacia is akin to dyslexia. Some people have more difficulty handling space than they do words. This book points out that enjoyment that can be derived from being a map nerd.
Knowledge of space and geography is an essential component of the human intellect.
"Very difficult to get through..."
I work with and make maps every day.... Thought this could be interesting.. Its not. Ken Jennings walks you through his every moment in mundane experiences as if you don't have a life of your own to experience boring situations. Little interesting information, regurgitation of facts from the very vocally proud "grand jeopardy champion".
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one can't help but wonder what big plans al-quaida, tango and other islamic terrorist types have planned for the celebration and festivities ready to spring on the USA come near the 9-11 date.
or what obongo and his socialist menions are planning for the next false flag operation--to take away the rights of the citizens and impose himself as czar ???
whatever attack our enemys have planned i suspect the administration is asleep at the wheel and we'll get caught flat footed like boston--again.
their too busy planning false flag operations against the country they swore to protect to bother hunting down real terrorist.
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|Conrad Hart
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Hi guys,
I have a barely used Ultralight that feels like it is just too big for me. It's a pretty bad ass board and it was great in the deep stuff this week, but I think I'm going to move to something else.
The specs:
167 Ultralight (wide).
With Ultimate Grip
Year: 2012 (bought new last year - don't think there have been any changes)
Base Condition: Excellent. Been Waxed once (by me) and ridden only a few times
Topsheet condition: A few scratches (some were there when I bought it) but overall very good. When I pull the bindings off I expect that there may be some marks there.
EDIT: When I went to take pictures I noticed there is now a noticeable ding in the topsheet. Since I've only been in pow all week I don't know where this came from but... well... it figures.
Overall: A bad ass board that was maybe more than I could chew. Now yours for "cheap" compared to the $800 list price (if you can find one)
Price: $300
People in the the Seattle area, I can meet up on the eastside this week if you want and you can check it out
before you buy
Will not ship (for now). Will add pics when I can. I have a pair of 2013 Ride Capo bindings mounted on it now that I would be will to let go for additional cost.
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