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This is maybe a strange request. I want to install a charcoal canister on my fuel tank in my 41 Willys to prevent fuel vapor getting in the car.
These seem to be a dealer item as the local auto parts stores don't have them.
I can get one at the junk yard but I want a new one. I need one that is basic..IE simple two lines, one in and one out. I know they eventually hook to the air cleaner but I can get around that
The question is; What is a reasonable size and what car does it come on so I can get a new one. I prefer a GM.
the one on my 1996 Jeep Cherokee is pretty simple... one vac line in, one vac line out, not much to them, looks like a flat black coffee can, and they probably last forever as well? If it were me, I'd try a boneyard part for a mockup and see how well it fits and also how well the idea works, then get a new part if you want.
Don't forget to grab the bracket at the pull-n-pay, you could modify that to fit the 'mockup' before modifying new parts... I don't want you wasting money on new stuff to adapt and mess it up, it'd be better to mess up a used junkyard part if you see my logic...
Hey thanks for the info. I'm going to go look for one maybe this week end. Good idea to try the junker stuff first.
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Look at the hoses on the ones in the junk yard carefully. If the hose to the intake runs to the air filter then you would have to have some way of closing off the air filter housing until the engine starts. Otherwise the vapors just end up in the atmosphere anyway. On the older systems you'd have the hose from the gas tank to the canister. The other hose would go to a manifold vacuum source, for example the PCV hose, so the vapors were sucked into the engine when it was running. There's a ported vacuum controlled valve in the manifold vacuum hose that doesn't allow manifold vacuum to the canister unless you're off idle.
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I've been looking through some old emissions hose schematics and I think the rubber hose(s) you see going to an air filter housing is/are from the AIR pump divertor valve. Either that or the temp sensors or vacuum bypass for the vacuum operated trap doors in the air cleaner snorkel. Neither are directly connected to the charcoal canister.
couldn't a one-way valve (pcv valve?) be used to keep vapors in the charcoal canister/lines? Just a thought.
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The problem there is that the PCV valve is connected to manifold vacuum which means eventually the vapors would leak out where the throttle plate is. That's never a tight seal. The other thing is that the systems are designed so the fuel vapors don't get drawn into the engine until you're cruising down the road. There are so many variables with the amount of vapors that you'd have problems maintaining a consistant idle speed and quality start up after start up.
Do these really need to be purged? Since I'm planning to use this on the vent line of the tank, air will come in thru the canister as well as trap fumes while the car is not running. This line will just have a air cleaner of its own attached to it....lawn mower type. The other line will go to the tank. Maybe I should use 2 vents on the tank. One would be used as described, the other would be a one way such as a check valve on a power brake unit. The check valve line would provide extra flow during high fuel useage..ie full throttle. Under normal cruise the air coming into the tank would come in thru the canister. If it needs a little more, the air can come in thru the check valve. All venting going out of the tank however will go thru the canister. The check valve could also be an inverted tip over valve,..ball bearing type.
This isn't an emmission application except to prevent fumes from entering the car.
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The reason the canister has to be purged is that after a while it will fill with vapors and will smell of gas. It's not a big deal to install one, you just buy a canister and a canister control valve and hook it all up. I'm having a difficult time picturing the rest of your set up and how it would work properly. There is a filter on the bottom of the charcoal canisters I'm familiar with. I'm not sure what you mean by running to it's own air filter. What happens is that when the purge valve opens fresh air is drawn into the canister through the bottom through the filter. That air mixes with the fuel vapors as they go into the engine. A check valve in the vapor vent line prevents pulling a vacuum in the fuel tank. The only problem I see is that the system I'm describing is an older GM one and you may not be able to get parts for it anymore. The newer ones are controlled by electric solinoids activated by the ECM. In any case I'm no instructor and sometimes don't explain things very well. I think the first thing you have to do is have a complete understanding about how the systems work then I'm sure you can design one easily enough.
Hey thanks for the info. I'm going to do a layout of the system and make a Solidworks drawing. I can maybe post it so that it will be more clear.
I've seen this type of system so it is not my idea but I did not really paid attention to the details. Not enough disc space in my head. haha Sometimes streetrod stuff is not exactly correct but it works well enough for the limited amount of use we give them.
My thinking is that air will be continuously drawn in through the canister as fuel is used. When the car is shut off and simply waits for me to bring it to life again, the canister gathers fumes as required. Once the motor is started and begins to use fuel, air again comes into the canister, purging it.....hopefully.
I would think any dumping of vapors into the carb air cleaner could cause idle problems. A ported vacuum might work. My system will eventually have a blower and possibly an EFI injector so A/F ratio will be monitored. I would guess that fuel vapors dumped in will be accounted for by the o2 sensors. But I surely don't need random fuel vapors dumped in at idle, it's hard enough to keep a blown motor clean at idle. Consider also that this mess will be run on E-85. ($2.05/ gal today) I can probably tolerate some varance in mixture just as an alcohol motor can.
You know it is funny..in my younger days I would just roll the window down (hand crank not power) and say "gas fumes are just part of hot rodding, like noise, live with it." Today after 55+ years of sniffing gas and all the other hotrod fumes, I really long for a little cleaner air. haha Now if it was diesel fumes, it would be a different story. haha....yeah right a Willys with "stacks" ...I really don't wish to be banned from hotroding. haha
I'm going to the junk yard....back later.
I have been watching this thread for a few days and the confusion it is causing me makes me want to ask;
You have a fuel system that is running so rich that fumes are drawn into the passenger compartment? If so, an EVAP (or similiar) system is not going to help much. EVAP is designed to contain fuel vapors while the car is off and then burns the excess fumes while running.
Is the engine carbureted or injected? For a EVAP to work anywheres efficiently, you will need at the least closed air cleaner(s). EVAP also vents the fuel tank and carburetor bowls.
It sounds to me that either the fuel mixture needs to be leaned out or the passenger compartment needs to be sealed more tightly (exhaust pipes run to rear bumper?). Is this a steel car or fiberglass?
Now all of this having being said, early cannisters (metal) used a replacement filter and later cannisters are plastic throw away.
Sorry for the confusion. It's not the exhaust fumes. It's gas fumes from the fuel tank mounted in the trunk area. Even though the trunk area is sealed off, when filling the tank some fumes remain in the trunk. Eventually there will be an external filler. The trunk is well vented. There is an external vent ( outside of the trunk) on the tank too, but if the car just sits on a hot day the fumes will get into the car, this is what I'm really after.
The exhaust is out the rear past the body lip and does not leak.
The focus of the exercise is to vent the tank so fumes don't get into the car by the venting. There is an external vent but by capturing this I hope to clean up the car.
Charcoal Canister
You're on the right track venting the vapors to a charcoal canister. Is there already some sort of a vent in the tank, or does the system you have now rely on a vented gas cap to relieve pressure in the tank?
I have an AN-8 male vent fitting and a screw on cap with no vent (Chassis shop 2"). Also I have a AN-8 male return that is capped.
here is the cad jpeg. It's about 16 gallons. 20 x 15 x 14.5. 14 ga 5052-0 aluminum.
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Dexter is the best, such a lovable monster he is, & saving the taxpayers big $$'s! D/with the stars..hunky Maksim is back, :roll: Dirty S Money(has the other brother from 6ft Under), Brothers & Sisters, 2.5Men, Boston Legal, Dr.G, CSIMiami, Grey's Anatomy. Am waiting for Big Love & Tudors to come back! :-D J
I watched a few episodes of torchwood cuz Big Jim and debra recommended it to me...It was pretty cool until the night i talked my son into watching it. Before i knew it two guys were dancing...Then holding hands!...Then the two guys were KISSING!! :-P.... SOooo....I figured it was just a wierd thing. My son Bailed as soon as that stuff started!...I went back to work and mentioned to Jim and Debra what i saw and they both Freaked too!...They both were surprised, but debra watched a couple more episodes until the show continued to show this kind of thing on the next episodes she watched...She jumped ship too. BBC has stuff like this I dont watch...But, I really crack up when i watch "Absolutely Fabulous"..The blonde is HOT!...Disgusting, but HOT! :-Dyour friend,john


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What I love is the '49-'54 vehicles built by GM, what I hate is the '49-'54 vehicles built by GM, confussed, stay with me here, I hate them from the standpoint that coupes and sedans 2 and 4 doors and pickups are the only ones that manufactures seem to notice or cater too, don't get me wrong there are a few companies out in the industry that have stepped up to make some parts for the other models but those are far and few between and the parts they do make are really for the other models and not the wagons & sedan deliveries. When I go looking for parts do I find parts for my wagon? no, but I find plenty of parts for everything else, I know there is money to be made off of us wagon and sedan delivery owners, you would think these companies would like to get a piece of It especially in these tough economic times. I remember a time in the early 70's when all I owned was Tri-Fives and everytime I needed a part did I go down to my local parts house for that part?, no, I would have to go down to my local junk yard because the part was no longer being made. And believe me It wasn't all shiny and bright, but I new my junk yard had it and I wasn't going to hear from them "sorry that part is not in stock".(this was pre-Danchuk years) I would like to see some manufactures step up like Danchuk's did for the Tri-Fives and cater soley to the 49-54 cars of GM,If It happened to the Tri-Fives It can happen to the '49-'54 cars, and when I say cars that includes the wagons and the sedans deliverys. Ok,I will now step down off my soap box.
gemnewt 1st off welcome to the SRM forum. I believe it's a matter of numbers of units built & who now want's to purchase parts. If the cars were so popular that they sold 100's of thousands or millions of units it would be stupid to ignore that sector of the market, now if the units were in the mere thousands & they changed body styles every year it's unfortunitly not good business. I do agree that there is a growing market for almost every 50's 60's 70's era cars & even wagons (that buy the way I love) especialy 2 door wagons & sedan delivery, the Boomers are running the market of these cars that they owned when they were young. Now they have the money to spend & want to re-live some of thier youth. It's a growing market & slow growing at that. I am a Mopar & Pontiac guy & the unit number were even less than the GM number by a lot, so I feel your pain on being able to find quality not completly rusted out parts let alone anything remanufactured or NOS. It's just a mattter of numbers, no matter what we love business needs to turn a profit, so the low number units unless they are big money cars will be ignored. Just my $0.02 cents. Good luck with your builds. 3836bbl/Budnicks
"Fill Your Library Before Your Fill Your Garage" 3836bbl alias Budnicks
Thank you kindly for yor comments
Your verry welcome.
"Fill Your Library Before Your Fill Your Garage" 3836bbl alias Budnicks


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CHAPEL HILL, N.C. - Fifth-ranked North Carolina built a 16-1 lead and never looked back as the Tar Heels defeated High Point 20-8 Saturday afternoon at Fetzer Field in men's lacrosse action before a crowd of 1,942 fans.
Fifteen different Tar Heels scored goals in the game as Carolina improved to 10-3 on the season with its seventh successive win. The seven-game winning streak is the second longest for UNC since 1993, topped only by a 10-game winning streak to begin the 2010 campaign. First-year program High Point dropped to 3-11 on the campaign despite playing the Tar Heels even in the second half on the scoreboard.
Eight Tar Heels played their final regular-season home games at Fetzer Field - midfielder Sean Taylor, attackman Stevie Kirkup, midfielder Davey Emala, defenseman Kieran McDonald, attackman Stephen Burns, goalkeeper Steven Rastivo, midfielder William Scroggs and attackman Marcus Holman.
UNC had five multi-goal scorers with Marcus Holman, Jimmy Bitter, Joe Costigan, Joey Sankey and Patrick Kelly each scoring two goals. Stephen Burns led the Tar Heels with two assists. For the second straight game the Tar Heels had a limited number of assists as there were only five helpers on 20 goals. Last Saturday against Hofstra UNC had five assists on 14 goals.
Other goal scorers for Carolina were Will Campbell, Ryan Creighton, T.J. Kemp, Matt Shannon, Sean Taylor, Walker Chafee, Jake Bailey, Pat Foster, Steve Pontrello and Chad Tutton all scoring once. Will Campbell, Carson Clough, Marcus Holman and Ryan Creighton each had single assists.
Midfielder Joe Costigan, close defenseman Jake Bailey and long-stick defensive midfielder Matt Shannon all had their first goals in Tar Heel uniforms while Carson Clough had his first career assist. Patrick Kelly had the first multi-goal game of his UNC career.
Dan Lomas and Mitchell Dupere each scored two goals to lead the Panthers. Brad James notched a goal and three assists for the Panthers.
Two landmark goals came in the opening period for the Tar Heels as they jumped out to a 6-0 lead just 12:19 into the match. When Jimmy Bitter scored with 9:07 to play in the first quarter he became 51st Tar Heel in history to score 50 career goals, joining fellow sophomore attackman Joey Sankey in reaching that plateau this year. At the four-minute mark, Marcus Holman scored an unassisted goal for the Tar Heels to put UNC up 4-0. Holman's goal extended his consecutive games streak with a goal to 28 in a row, breaking the school record of 27 games set by Mac Ford from May 21, 1983 through May 19, 1985. Holman's 28-game goal scoring streak began against Detroit on February 18, 2012.
Carolina's win was the 10th of the season for Carolina and its seventh in a row. The Tar Heels have not lost since falling 11-8 to Duke on March 13 at Fetzer Field. The Tar Heels have now won 10 or more games in each of the first five seasons of Coach Joe Breschi's head coaching tenure. He is the first UNC head coach to accomplish that feat in program history. The last time UNC won 10 or more games in a season as many as five years in a row was six successive campaigns from 1989-94, the first two of those seasons under Coach Willie Scroggs and the next four under Coach Dave Klarmann.
UNC outshot the Panthers 43-18 and had a 46-32 edge in ground balls. UNC won 19 of 31 face-offs with Frankie Kelly going 10 for 17 at the X while leading the team with six ground balls. R.G. Keenan was a perfect 9-for-9 at the X to go along with five ground balls before giving way to Kelly in the second quarter. Thirty-five Tar Heels played in the game with 21 of them recording ground balls. Jake Matthai had four ground balls while Evan Connell, Kieran Burke and Mark McNeill had three each. Kieran McDonald led UNC with three caused turnovers.
Both teams shot the ball on goal with accuracy with 28 combined goals in the game and only 17 saves (12 for High Point, 5 for UNC). The fast pace of play led to a plethora of turnovers with the Panthers committing 22 and the Tar Heels 16. UNC was excellent in the clearing game, however, going 23 for 23, while High Point was 18 of 23. The Panthers went 1-for-1 on the EMO while Carolina was 2-for-2.
After leading 6-1 after the opening period, UNC outscored the Panthers 7-0 in the second period with seven different players scoring goals.
Pat Foster opened the scoring for Carolina with 10:30 left in the first quarter before Bitter scored on a fast break off an assist by Ryan Creighton with 9:07 left in the period. Chad Tutton, Marcus Holman, Joey Sankey and Ryan Creighton followed with goals over a span of 2:19 to put the Heels up 6-0 with 2:41 left in the opening frame. High Point closed out the scoring in the initial period with a man-up goal by Dan Lomas with 29 seconds remaining but the Panthers would not score for another 17:40 of the game.
The second quarter was all UNC with Sankey, Bitter and Pontrello scoring unassisted goals before Walker Chafee took a pass from Will Campbell and to stretch the lead to 10-1 with 8:50 left before the half. Holman and Patrick Kelly scored before Matt Shannon capitalized on a turnover by the Panthers to score his first career goal with 1:31 left in the first half.
The Tar Heels opened the second half with three goals in the opening 1:18. T.J. Kemp started the scoring in the half at 14:28 and just seven seconds later Jake Bailey tallied the opening goal of his career. It took just another 39 seconds before Kelly garnered his second goal of the game.
High Point dominated the remainder of the period, running off six successive goals to cut UNC's lead to 16-7 heading into the fourth quarter. Mitchell Dupere scored twice in the six-goal run for the Panthers and Brad James had a pair of assists.
Carolina then outscored the Panthers 4-1 in the final frame with Joe Costigan netting a pair of tallies. Both of Costigan's goals were on man-up plays. He was assisted by freshman Carson Clough at 12:20 and then by senior Stephen Burns at 8:36. A pair of seniors, Sean Taylor and Stephen Burns, combined on a goal 55 seconds later before Will Campbell finished off the scoring for UNC with 6:45 to play.
The 20 goals marked only the third time in the last 12 seasons that Carolina has scored 20 or more goals in a game. The other two occasions were against Denver on February 14, 2009 (20-7 UNC win) and against Mercer on February 12, 2012 (20-7 UNC victory).
UNC returns to action next Friday when it plays host to the 2013 ACC Tournament at Kenan Stadium. The Tar Heels will be hosting the tournament for the first time since 2009 and will be seeking their first tournament title since 1996. Fourth-ranked Maryland plays Virginia at 5 p.m. in the opening semifinal game Friday while fifth-ranked Carolina takes on seventh-ranked Duke at 7:30 p.m. in the second semifinal game. The championship game is Sunday, April 28 at 1 p.m.


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The tug of the tow line, the rush of the water beneath you. If you've ever tried water tubing, you probably agree that it can certainly be fun. It can also be hazardous. A recent study has documented an alarming rise in the number of water-tubing injuries. Being smart about boating can help you stay safe while water tubing this summer.
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Technology » Personal Tech
iPad With Wheels Lets You Roam the Office From Home
The Calif. based company Double Robotics has retrofitted a Segway-type accessory to the iPad giving employees the freedom to roam the office from where ever they may be. The company, just 18-months-old, has already gotten pre-order sales totaling $1.8M.
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iPod on wheels. Improved technology in newer cars makes it easier than before to connect and play your iPod.
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Heads up. Steering wheel controls keep your eyes straight ahead.
Familiar territory. Browse through a menu system modeled after the iPod interface.
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|Site and Forum Comments & Issues Comments? Suggestions? Out-right flames? Found a bug? Feel free to post about it here!
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|Nice post kudos to you sir.
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My name is Leena Narayanaswamy and I am a graduate student working on my thesis on SPECCPU2006 Benchmarks. I want to install the benchmarks on windows. I have installed it, but I am unable to give the right path for my compiler in the shrc.bat file. I don't want to use the pre-compiled binaries. I want to compile them and get the binaries. My computer is Intel core 2 Duo(x86-64 bit) and it has windows 7. And I have installed the intel C++ compiler (Intel composer xe2013).
Can you please guide what changes I have to make in the shrc.bat file. or I just want to try following the installation steps given on the website. I am stuck at the 6th step, that is editing the shrc.bat. Please do reply me.
|Indeed! And it comes with very important optimization to floating-point multiplication (AVX1.1 handles addition only) that can improve the performance of some of the commonly used calculations in modern computing; Polynomials, matrix multiplication and, necessarily, dot product.
|Slightly off topic, but since you mention AVX... AVX 2.0 is already due at the start of 2013 in Haswell, apparently.
I figured this way anyone will have a better idea what CPU2006 is and does and can better judge the results that will soon start to appear. On the other hand Rob get a time saving link he can use on the CPU2006 section of the reviews if he so wishes.
There's a whole lot more that can be said about CPU2006, of course. The documentation of this suite is a sure indicator of that.
For instance, the usage or not of processor instruction extensions on the tests (SSE4.2, the newly introduced AVX, etc). We ended up deciding not to use optimization flags, because we figured the inclusion of those would not reflect the type of real-world coverage that is demanded of a benchmark suite for systems review, as is the case with Techgage cpu and computer reviews. So, the configuration files we ended up producing reflect the typical compilation flags of any mainstream application.
Commercial software of the type we tend to use everyday, does not usually ship compiled with processor extension flags. An application optimized for AVX, for instance, will crash on any processor which doesn't have this extension (that's anything that has come before Intel Sandy Bridge and AMD Bulldozer). So, only very specialized software, developed in-house, and for systems known to the developer, usually carries these optimizations.
Still, we have prepared an AVX configuration file (and Rob's still waiting for me to give him a SSE4.2 one). It's likely there is a need to occasionally discuss processors in this context -- either on review articles or, more likely, on separate articles. Processor extensions can be big contributors to CPU performance on certain specialized processing areas. I'm particularly excited(!) about AVX, for instance. So in case there is a need to enter into that type of article, Techgage has it covered too.
|Awesome post Marfig! Thank you for posting it.
Ok, here's the promised description of the CPU2006 benchmark suite, for future reference. I'll try to make this short and to the point.
First and foremost, Rob already linked to it, but here it is again, the website of the suite, for anyone wishing to dig deeper.
What is CPU2006?
CPU2006 is a benchmark suite composed of 29 individual benchmarks that test a CPU integer and floating point performance, as well as its memory subsystem. Every individual benchmark is composed of real-world algorithms (algorithms that are used on various types of applications, from video encoding to scientific applications or file compression) and was specifically developed to stress test the CPU.
The CPU2006 benchmarks are divided in two distinct groups:
Results are presented separately for the integer and floating-point groups.
What kind of metrics there are?
CPU2006 can perform two different types of benchmarks:
Techgage will concern itself only with Speed Benchmarks and these are the results that will be shown in future CPU reviews.
How is the data reported?
Rob is still working on the best way to present this data. But he's also going to publish the results to SPEC website. So we can discuss those, knowing that Rob will use these as a base for whatever cool graphs and presentation he cooks for us on future CPU review articles.
A typical SPEC report can be seen here.
You can see from the top-right, this is an integer benchmark results file. That is, this is a CINT2006 results file. A floating-point (CFP2006) results file is exactly the same, only the tests are different. One example (for the exact same system) can be found here.
Results at the top-right are median values obtained from all tests. Individual benchmark results can be seen on the graph below and on the Results Table further down.
CPU2006 runs the tests 3 times. Run #1, Run #2 and Run #3. Each of these Runs can still be configured to run the same test more than once. These individual runs inside a Run # are called Copies. So a Run # can be made up of 1 or more copies (1 or more executions of the benchmark).
CPU2006 can be configured to run two Sets of benchmarks. Base and Peak. Each of these sets performs 3 Runs and their results are calculated separately.
Peak is optional and doesn't actually need to be performed if we so wish. Its values can be collected from the Base run by simply grabbing the highest speed Copy from that run. But in that case, if the benchmark is configured to run just one Copy, the results from Peak and Base will coincide for every Run.
Techgage isn't planning at this time to run more than one Copy. So there are no plans to include Peak in Techgage benchmarks.
Results are published in Seconds and as a Ratio.
It's this Ratio result that serves as the basis for CPU2006 reporting, as you can see form the reports linked above.
How is the benchmark suite executed?
SPEC has a very stringent set of procedures and rules that it demands every tester to follow in order for the benchmarks to be sanctioned and validated by SPEC (and allowed to be posted to their website).
The machine being benchmarked must have a compiler suite installed. For Linux this is usually GCC, while for Windows this is usually the Intel compiler. Other compilers can be used, but they must conform to certain C99 rules that SPEC source code makes use of (which on windows excludes Microsoft's VC++, for instance).
The tester can however use pre-compiled binaries of the individual tests. But this is by far less than ideal, because those binaries may have been compiled on a different CPU and may not fully reflect the CPU architecture being tested.
Techgage will always compile and never use pre-built binaries. Any exception will be clearly noted and the reasons detailed.
The tester must configure the compilation process, conforming to SPEC run rules; a very complex rules set, as you can see from the link. Fortunately, compiler configuration files already exist that facilitate this process somehow and the tester is left with the task of tweaking these to their needs... following the rules at all times. Here you can find an example of a configuration file.
An utility called runspec, executes the benchmark once all is properly configured. This can take several hours. On a Intel 2600k Rob used, it takes around 13 hours to execute the whole benchmark (3 Runs of Base and Peak, 1 Copy each).
Once the benchmark is executed, result files are automatically generated and everything is checked against SPEC rules. If the benchmark conforms to these rules, the results files are flagged as valid and can be submitted to SPEC for inclusion on their results page. Otherwise they are flagged as Invalid.
Invalid results aren't bad results (all results are good since they are always accurate). These are however results that don't conform to SPEC rules. But that may have been intentional, depending on the needs and requirements of the tester. The results just simply cannot be submitted to SPEC, since their specificity isn't in agreement with SPEC requirements for a standard benchmark procedure.
Does Techgage follow SPEC rules?
To the letter! All benchmarks done by Techgage in the context of its CPU or computer review articles, will be submitted to SPEC. Any exceptions will be clearly mentioned on the article and the reasons for that explained.
Techgage will use Windows for CPU2006 benchmarking. The source code build tools will be the Intel Compiler v12 and Visual Studio 2008. The configuration files have all been already tested and fully conform to SPEC rules.
Visual Studio is required because the Intel Compiler uses Microsoft C and C++ standard libraries. The reason 2008 is being used and not 2010 is because there's currently a bug in the Intel Compiler that generates an header conflict between math.h and Intel's specific mathinf.h (source). Because SPEC does not allow changes in the source code of the individual benchmarks, we adopt VS 2008.
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Thanks, Psi*!
Great recap, Mario! There were high times, low times, and times when I wanted to jump out the window and run into traffic. But in the end, we got an exhaustive and accurate benchmark out of the deal. I regret not deciding to jump on this well over a month ago... I just had no idea what we were in for :S
|Kudos guys, nice work
SPEC's CPU2006 benchmark suite was quite an unruly beast to tame. We've spent two weeks working on it non-stop, from starting the process of reading documentation and understanding the whole SPEC protocol in place for performing and reporting benchmarks, to finally come up with what we felt was a correct and acceptable configuration for Techgage CPU reviewing purposes.
In the way we hit many walls, head first, that would leave us bewildered, confused, and often frustrated, and that would force us to go back and rethink the way we were trying to work with it. It can be said that this wasn't a case of progressively reaching a good configuration. We would in fact, more than once, run an entire benchmark for more than 10 hours, only to find at the end of it all that we were still not doing it right. Not according to SPEC's rules and not according to our interests.
I can still remember me telling Rob this would be easy. Ah, the naivety! CPU2006 is a complex benchmark suite meant to provide anyone who wishes to use it with a standardized processes, from compiling the tests to running and reporting them. The complexity is in a fact a consequence of this standardization, and guarantees proper scaled results across different machine setups and compiler optimization flags. It's an ideal benchmark suite (the one ideal benchmark suite!) for CPU performance analysis and comparison. As such, it is extremely well suited for an hardware review website such as Techgage. But the cost is a complex and hard to learn suite that demands also knowledge of software development and building, particularly compiler usage.
However, it needs to be said that many of the obstacles we faced were entirely our own fault. There's a proper way to do these things. It involves reading the documentation from start to finish, understanding the key concepts, experimenting and planning ahead. We did nothing of those things. Or we did, but all lumped together in a 2 week race to have the benchmark suite ready for the upcoming Techgage reviews. Time was not on our side, so we had to do without the best we could. That involved necessarily not always reading documentation properly, missing key information or making decisions that would soon enough reveal themselves obvious mistakes we should have realized.
What's worse, I didn't have a 64bit machine. While I could compile for 64bit runs, I couldn't run them. So I was flying a little blind there, after we finally dealt with all compilation errors and went into understanding why some tests wouldn't run or the whole benchmark was marked as invalid. Rob had to take the blunt of it and, with that, all the frustration of running a 13 hour benchmark only to find at the end it wasn't a valid benchmark (several times!). This while he was trying to build 2 machines in time for an upcoming review.
At some point it became depressing. So much in fact that when we finally got our first 100% valid, totally foolproof, reportable benchmark, we didn't celebrate. We were so exhausted, that hitting success came like a drink of water when you've already passed out from thirst.
Let this serve of a lesson to anyone wishing to use CPU2006. This is a serious, professional and complex benchmark suite that companies like Intel, AMD, ASUS, Dell and Cisco use for internal purposes. The membership and associates page of SPEC will give you a good idea of what we are talking about here. It's meant to be properly studied before it is implemented. Don't do what we did
So, how do we know we have a good CPU2006 benchmark configuration?
Rob insisted from the very beginning that he wanted the benchmarks to be submitted to SPEC. For this to happen, benchmarks have to be flagged as valid by the CPU2006 tools. These tools perform an exhaustive analysis of the our benchmark configuration and compiler flags and only when they respect CPU2006 specifications, will they be marked as valid. And this is the validation we need. By conforming to SPEC rules and specifications, we know we have a good benchmark configuration that not only allows Rob to submit the results to SPEC, but give readers of Techgage the confidence they are looking at credible and true results that conform with the very high standards imposed by SPEC for proper CPU benchmark.
In an upcoming post on this thread, I'll be discussing (more briefly, thank goodness!) what exactly is CPU2006 and why should you care.
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SPEC's CPU2006 Added to Our CPU Test Suite
Alongside Intel's launch of its Sandy Bridge-E processors next week, we'll be unveiling something of our own - an overhauled CPU test suite. Our last major update occurred in late 2008, so we had quite a bit to tweak, add, remove, or replace with the latest iteration. Over the course of the coming week, I'll be making a few posts in our news section like this one, explaining some of the new tests we're introducing, why they make for a great CPU benchmark, and of course, why they're relevant.
The first benchmark I wanted to talk about is also the most time-consuming and complicated: SPEC's CPU2006. Don't let the five-year-old name fool you; the benchmark received its latest update a mere two months ago. The goal here is to test both the compilation and execution performance of a machine. In addition to stressing the CPU, CPU2006 also takes full advantage of the memory sub-system and also the compiler.
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While it often seems that the concrete production industry is dominated by large firms, sophisticated research organizations, and complex regulations, it's nice to know that someone still represents the voice of the small producer and contractor.
For half a century, D. Gene Daniel served as an advocate for the practices and concerns commonly found on most projects. His activity on important technical committees serves as an example of how a single individual can still wield great influence in how ready-mix concrete is produced, delivered, and used in construction.
Daniel is in private practice as an engineer and consultant in Claremore, Okla. He entered the ready-mix concrete business in 1988 when he joined Beaver Lake Concrete, a regional producer serving northwest Arkansas and southwest Missouri. The firm operated eight batch plants and two sand and gravel operations. "I was the operations manager, technical services director, and the only concrete technician, so I changed hats on the run," says Daniel. He was the company's president when he retired in 1997.
While serving customers in this rural market, Daniel, 77, learned first-hand the challenges of maintaining good producer-customer relationships. One job Daniel remembers best was a large slab-on-grade pour that lasted a week. At the time, Beaver Lake Concrete's plants were all manual batchers and each recipe was on a sheet of paper. Each day, Daniel would visit the contractor on the job to discuss potential mix design changes that would help that day's placement.
To meet this challenge, Daniel developed a special computer program which calculated proportional adjustments to meet the contractor's workability needs and to satisfy the contract specifications. "By the end of the project, I was back to the proportions with which I had begun, giving me a great deal of confidence in my program," says Daniel.
Using his field experience as a catalyst, Daniel continues his work on ACI and ASTM International technical committees. His advocacy for the interests of the small producer brings balance to his technical committees that are often dominated by large companies. For his lifelong contribution to the ready-mix industry and for his continued advocacy of small producers, TCP recognizes D. Gene Daniel as a 2011 Industry Influencer.
Testing fresh concrete
Born in Oklahoma City, Daniel holds a bachelor's degree in Architectural Engineering from Oklahoma State University and a master's of science in civil engineering from the University of Arkansas. He was a civil engineer in Fort Smith, Ark., and owned and acted as principle engineer for a geotechnical and construction materials laboratory.
Daniel became involved with ASTM while working in the testing industry before Beaver Lake. For more than 48 years, he has represented producers by serving on many ASTM committees and task groups. Daniel's greatest interest has been in testing fresh concrete, especially the important procedure of testing for air content by pressure method. In 2009, Daniel was selected as an ASTM Honorary Member.
Daniel continues to bring his voice to our industry's design community as well. Elected a fellow of ACI in 1998, Daniel has more than 50 years of service on a host of technical committees where he has similarly represented the small producer. His committee work includes ACI 211 Concrete Proportioning, ACI 305 Hot Weather Concrete, ACI 306 Cold Weather Concrete, and others.
Daniel isn't finished influencing yet. While his involvement in ASTM and ACI committee work may be lessening, he remains active in the concrete industry. Daniel conducts concrete plant inspections and/or certifications. And if that's not enough, he is developing mix design software and is penning a new booklet containing advice to architects and engineers on understanding and using cement mill certificates.
After 50 years, Daniel finds his work fun. "It's rewarding to help producers with engineering service they could not afford, or when they do not need full-time help," he says


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text: That's not how it works now. The three division winners are only guaranteed a top 4 seed, not a top 3. A non-division winner can be as high as #2 in the conference, if the top 2 teams in the conference come from the same division. In our case, if (as seems likely) Boston ends up #1 in the East again while Cleveland stays ahead of the Pistons in the Central, the Pistons can still get the 3 seed if they finish with a better record than whoever wins the Southeast (i.e. they would need to finish ahead of both Orlando and Atlanta).


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i'm new to costume making so i need help with the first mando if anybody could give me ideas that would help.:albino
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i'm new to costume making so i need help with the first mando if anybody could give me ideas that would help.:albino
This is kinda vague. If you could give some more info about what you want to create and what parts you need help with, then maybe we could point you in the right direction.
My first suggestion is look at the custom mando threads. There's plenty of stuff to get you started. :)
the very first thing you need to do is go find the Wizard of Flight Templates. also decide on which of the three type of mandos you want to be.
light - kinda like boba...knees only on legs
medium - shins and knees or just shins
heavy. - like jango
dont worry about color or anythign until the end.
saves time.
im hoping for like a sniper mando do any of you know wat to use for that? also what armor for a sniper i would need.
This is a great website which is helping me plan my first suit of Beskar'gam
i hope it helps
Jango is considered a medium set of armor. Heavy is either completely or close to completely enclosed (Like Stormtrooper or Republic Commando).
Most people tend to go with light or medium sets for their first sets of armor as they tend to not need joint protection or worry about hinged enclosures.
Personally, I would stick with a light set as your first set...and start with your helmet as that alone will give you a great perspective on how you want the rest of your armor to come out.
thanks i was wondering if a sorage bin would work for a medium
to store your stuff? sure! duffels work brilliantly!
I think he means to make plate out of.
Yes, or a couple good plastic trashcans.
thanks that helps alot.
what size of trash cans?
That all depends on how much armor your trying to get out of it. Do you have your templates already printed out?
don't forget aluminum or steel. easy to work with and will do your bidding! you can make a whole set of armor sometimes two from one sheet, minus the backplate of course.
Metal works to, but in my opinion it's not nearly as easy for a first-timer as plastic or sintra and have come out looking really nice.
Here's a couple posts from over at Mercs, just because we have them sticked as tutorials WIP posts so they are easy to get at:
I'm sure if you look through the variant board here you will find some trash-can builds as well.
good point Tom. i however had a rough time with the plastic and sintra versions a while back. i started with metal. i think you just need a good person there with you and show you how to do it.
anyone remember Armand from on here?
i believe hes the second custom after Tim Arp. (who i have pictures of as well) He's the guy in green and mustard.
metal just seemed easier to make than heating and bending plastic to fit your body.
there are pluses and minuses for both options. id say make the two chest plates out of both and see which one looks better! and than go from there.
ya i guess but i cant cut the metal and so im going to use trash cans :)
sure you can!
you get a pair of sheers from home Depot or Lowe's or ACE hardware for cutting sheet metal. about 9-16 bucks. works like scissors.
i would assume trash can armor you'd need a dremmel, which can be messy.
A dremel can be rather messey, but they cut very nicely. I made my armor out of a big 13 gallon sterlite rounded trashcan. I experimented with several ways to cut the trascan.
First I tried to use the type of scissors that BH-7603 pointed out. I found the scissors didnt work very well because they didnt maneuver cleanly, even when cutting out big chunks! :facepalm
The next method was rather stupid of me.:lol I took out my nice box cutter and used that. I got really lucky with it. I was about to cut some nice curves, but with a fair about of mistakes. (Plus I wasnt wearing any protection so that got the best of me there, I eneded up slicing the top joint of my left index finger off.:cry You know the part around the knuckle that bends with ur finger? Sorry im no medical doctor and dont really :D )
The dremel by far worked the best. You just have to be really careful with it and take ur time.
Just my 2 cents there.;)
I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
Go with a dremel or tin snips.
DO NOT use a box cutter!!!
check out this thread...
ONE END used storage bins to make his plates, and it turned out really nice!!!
Good luck with the armour!
ya i looked at one ends and i whant to but cant :(
What cant you do? Use a dremel? I dont understand:confused
I actually used a Razorknife with the Hook edged blade to cut out the trash can plastic. Worked really well and was very fast. Just needs a steady hand so you don't cut yourself =P
I like to think i had a steady hand... Lol my hand was just in the wrong spot!
i dont have them and im going to use trash cans so when i get a trash can i will post some pictures wont get on at all mon-sat. scout camp :P


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A Spanish court has agreed to review requests that a criminal case be instituted against several Bush officials including former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. They are being charged with encouraging torture of prisoners at places like Guanatanamo. Human rights lawyers have brought the case to the attention of anti-terror judge, Baltasar Gonzalo Boye. Spanish law allows courts to reach beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes. There were requests for a similar indictment against Israel officials, but the Spanish government made clear it would halt such proceedings.
Judge Boye is arguing that some of the prisoners who were tortured were Spanish citizens which thus allows his nation to intervene in such cases. The focus of the proposed indictment is not against those who actually conducted torture interrogators but against higher level officials who gave sanction to such behavior.
Most probably, the best manner of dealing with this issue is for creation of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission in the United States to get at the root of these charges.


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I'm starting my first armor build. I finally got WoF's templates printed out so just to size them I put them on one of my T-shirts. I'm 6 ft with average build, so I printed out WoF's large templates that were the correct size and placed them on one of my new fairly average Large size T-shirt and they look rather small. But this is also my first set of armor so I don't know if thats just my untrained eye.
Obviously one was with sleeves out and other was with sleeves tucked in, but both have about 4-5 in of space left on the bottom. Is it supposed to be like that?


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Most of you may have already noticed or were previously aware, but with the recent release of some ESB promo pictures, and going over ALL the screen-caps in the Empire Strikes Back movie......I don't think it's ever been discussed openly but "Why do we paint our ESB Shoulder Studs Sliver??" When in most of the Ref Material that has been seen and "unseen" clearly shows they are indeed White. IMO....no??
So painting them silver or using Aluminum shoulder studs would be incorrect on an ESB Fett suit??..No??..........which also means on the JB Project, well, we got it wrong...
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'Ruff said Connolly skated very hard on his own today, emerging with no symptoms from the head injury that's haunted the Sabres center since the Eastern Conference semi-final against Ottawa. Ruff added that the team would look to put him on a more vigorous conditioning program and, while reluctant to name a time table, said he would guess it would be a 6-8 week program – maybe shorter, perhaps longer – provided Connolly remains symptom and setback-free.'
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"I created this fast-to-fix recipe to use up excess zucchini from our garden, and at the same time, serve a pasta dish that was lower in calories," relates Jan Clark of New Florence, Missouri about her prize-winning recipe.
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- 3 ounces uncooked angel hair pasta
- 1 cup chopped zucchini
- 1/2 cup chopped fresh mushrooms
- 1/3 cup chopped green pepper
- 1/4 cup chopped onion
- 2 teaspoons olive oil
- 1 garlic clove, minced
- 1 cup canned Italian diced tomatoes
- 6 pitted ripe olives, halved
- 1/8 teaspoon pepper
- 1/4 cup crumbled reduced-fat feta cheese
- 1 tablespoon shredded Parmesan cheese
- Cook pasta according to package directions. Meanwhile, in a large skillet, saute the zucchini, mushrooms, green pepper and onion in oil until vegetables are crisp-tender. Add garlic; cook 1 minute longer. Stir in the tomatoes, olives and pepper; heat through.
- Drain pasta; divide between two plates. Top with vegetable mixture and cheeses. Yield: 2 servings.
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Discussion in '2008 Playoffs' started by roscoe36, May 25, 2008.
Take the keys someone! Take the keys...........
4 hours 'till tipoff...darnit!
Since we all are going through this superstition thing, perhaps, I will only eat 12-14 wings during the game (like I usually do) instead of the 20+ I had on Saturday night........................
Wait, how come Roscoe doesn't get to be a big forum asset? He's gotta be one of the biggest assets I ever knew in my entire life. Come on. He works very hard at being an asset to the entire forum.. Give some credit where it is due, my man!
Hey! He was the very first forum asset of the day! Where were you? http://www.pistonsforum.com/detroit...ons-celtics-press-conferences.html#post146824
In fact, he's got to be one of the biggest assets I've ever seen. You're slippin' Tater.
Oh, my bad. It must have been written in Cannuckian and I missed it. I just wanted to make sure he got his due for being the #1 asset that he is. But I guess everyone already recognized him for that! Oh, by the way...I may not make it to chat tonight. I have a feeling my ban won't quite be over by tipoff.
You better make it to chat...[sarcasm]punk![/sarcasm] This game is special! It might be "short bus" special...but it's special nonetheless!
Awww...reminds me of LB's last game with the Pistons... We love you too Uncle [strike]Larry[/strike] Scoe
Here I thought you were joking about the barstool... welcome to my world detteam
Everyone...I think our fates tonight are firmly in the hands of the basketball gods....'cause our team isn't taking control of a gosh darned thing! I hope you all show up for chat
Sorry I live here and I just can't go through a full summer and then the next 10 months hearing THE WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS.......With Bynum coming back next year, they will surely win it then so I am reluctantly OK with Boston winning it this year so that the lakeshow can sit thru another summer of wondering why they didn't. I had to suffer through the 2000-01-02 seasons when all of Socal was inundated with LAKER/Kobe/Shaqmania...and then thru 04 when the local fans and local media were so arrogant, they still thought that the they were better than the Pistons. The felt that no team was on their level even though they got the benefit of a couple of calls vs the Kings and Trailblazers in the conference finals during their 3 titles to begin the decade. Don't really want to see Celtics either, but if they beat us then they deserve it more so than the Heat did 2 years ago.
Kudos to you for not selling out like all the other residents of LA.
Oh yea...you are ONE HECK of an asset to the forum...
You too and thanks for your enthusiasm and rallying the troops and fans today. You sure you can't make it to the game and get into the players and coaches ear?
only if they were playing in INDY laDre...
Is anyone else completely wired for this game? I have done absolutely nothing all day. I listen to music, then I'm checking the time, kill time watching TV while checking the time . . . I was supposed to go to a party I'm skipping it. I feel nausea, dread, excitement, and I'm terrified all at the same time. I'm watching this game with myself and maybe my mom if i can talk her into it LOL. My boyfriend doesn't feel like the Pistons are worth skipping getting drunk and partying w/ his friends. Can't blame him. Besides, he's a New Yorker through and through; the only team he really loves are the Yankees. I don't know what to do with myself. There's only so much Law & Order a person can watch LOL
you can always join us in chat.... Its bound to be live.
I sure hope the Pistons understand what they put their devoted fans through. :Cry: :yukpuke:
My laptop is broken so my home computer is downstairs, and the TV is upstairs. Last time i tried to watch/chat at the same time like that, i was running up and down the stairs like a lunatic. Someone would have an awesome dunk, I'd run downstairs to post about it, and i'd see something like "great, we give up one on the other end right after" Needless to say it didn't work LOL. Maybe if i only post during commercials . . .
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Sam Sparro - Pink Cloud (free EP!)
In lieu of his upcoming sophomore album, Return to Paradise, Australian pop artist Sam Sparro decided to unleash a new and free EP for all ears to hear. And whilst this all happened prior to the turn into the new year, we're slightly behind on the good stuff here in Beastonia, but that makes it no less rad. No, in fact, we're appreciating it even more now that the initial "zomg wow and how" factors have worn off on everyone else, and we can reveal how much our beastly little body is so affected by the sounds coming forth.
In July of 2010, Sparro stopped by East Village Radio's Accidental Rhythm, with my pal Jason Eldredge on hosting duties, and he debuted new song Pink Cloud. The mostly instrumental jam is a nice slice of throwback lounge house and is an exciting new turn in sound from the musician.
Now, he's offering up the Pink Cloud EP for free, which features the song of the same name, subsequent remixes by Julian Brody, Nguzunguzu and Saint Le Roq, as well as the b-side, You's a Nasty.
I'd be remiss and sorely mistaken if I didn't admit that this EP has been on more often than not over the course of the past week. And I don't see that changing any time soon. You can join me on this epic musical quest by downloading the release for the cost of naught, over on Sparro's site, or check out the video to the title track... OR watch the video below. The choice is yours... and every answer is oh so right.
mp3: Sam Sparro - Pink Cloud (Julian Brody Remix)
mp3: Sam Sparro - You's A Nasty