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Will you ladies have/ask your family and friends to wash their hands before holding your newborn? If so, how long before you stop asking them to?
I am being criticized by my in laws already when I brought up the fact that they will have to wash their hands or sanitize before holding our new little one. I brought this up when they were complaining that their neice made them wash up before holding her new one - I chimmed in right away to let them know that they will have to do the same thing before holding their grandbaby at least for the first couple weeks.
My husband said that I dont have the right to tell them (or anyone else) to clean up before holding our LO (little one) because it makes us seem snootie and stuck up and that it is rude for us to assume they are not clean enough. Whenever I have held a newborn, I dont even give the parents time to tell me to go wash up - I just do it, I dont want to be responsible for getting a little one sick. It has never been a big deal to me even if they do ask.
Now I dont know what to think!


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Inspired by a question on the 501st NEG board about painting in the winter, and funded by a generous gift from my boss, I built myself a shiny new painting room in the basement.
This area used to be a coal room at one time (our house is 100 years old, back from the days of coal furnaces).
This section sticks off the side of the basement, and has a 6" raised concrete floor, making it an awkward corner in general. But there is a window right there, formerly used for coal deliveries.
Last winter I did a quick job over there to make it paint friendly. Replaced the window with plywood and put in an industrial strength fan, vented out through said plywood.
This year I finished the job :)
Here is the corner with the floor down. the floor was real simple.... 2x3s on the flat with 1/2 plywood (19/32 if you REALLY want to quibble) on top. It's on a concrete slab, so it's not like I really needed to build a load bearing floor.
Here is the old wall that used to be in that corner. In my rush to build, iI tore it out without first capturing it. When I ripped it out, I actually found coal from when that used to be the coal room, many many many years ago!
These are my walls to be. I used 2x3s rather than 2x4, since it is a small space and I wanted the extra couple of inches.
Initial framing:
Framed with rough wiring in place. Nothing fancy power-wise. 3 outlets on the walls. 1 switch to control the overhead light and 2 fans. The fan is a plug in type, so it goes into a switched outlet on the ceiling.
This used to be the window. I removed the glass and replaced it with plywood. The 2 silver tubes go up to the fans in the ceiling. Liberal use of spray foam and caulking ensure a nice tight seal all around.
Oooh, so industrial!
Here is one of the fans. Note that I used duct tape on a DUCT! Crazy, huh? The strapping on the ceiling is there because the heat pipe is *just* beyond flush with the surface of the joists... like, 1/8" or so. I could have squished the pipe insulation a bit and made it work, but having that gap seemed better, and it's only losing 3/4" of height or so.
Next is insulation. I only insulated the exterior walls, since I didn't want to spend another $30 on more pink stuff for the interior.
And last, the paneling. chosen for it's quality, durability and aesthetic appeal (ok, so chosen for price), we have faux oak paneling, $9 a sheet, on the walls and ceiling. Also chosen for the same reason is the lovely plastic accordion door.
You can see the paint on the older fan... so they definitely work. The inside of the fan assembly was NASTY! I've got to remember to clean them out more often!
The outlets are at an odd height. My feed wire was only long enough to get down to there (it used to be in the ceiling). I didn't want to re-run the line back to the breaker, nor did I want a junction box. So I just put the outlets a bit high. I did the other 2 that way as well, so that it looked vaguely intentional.
The room is 7' x 8' x 5.5' and there are 2 180 cfm fans in there, so more than enough power to keep me happy. The only down side is that you have to paint sitting down, since the ceiling is low. But that's ok. I can live with that :)
The last piece is some cheap peel and stick tile on the floor, since plywood alone will get really gross really fast.


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TSA Cares Helpline: 1-855-787-2227: The line is open Monday through Friday 9 a.m. – 9 p.m. EST, excluding federal holidays. After hours, travelers can find information about traveling with disabilities and medical needs on TSA's website. To learn more click here.
All travelers can contact TSA using Talk To TSA, a web-based tool that allows passengers to reach out to an airport Customer Support Manager directly, and the TSA Contact Center, 1-866-289-9673 or email@example.com, where travelers can ask questions, provide suggestions and file complaints. All travelers may ask to speak to a TSA supervisor if they have questions about security procedures during the screening process.
Thursday, December 22, 2011
TSA Cares Helpline Starting Today
24 comments:
- Anonymous said...
Great news, now there is another source of information that the TSOs can ignore. Of course if you try to inform a TSO of the information you were provided you are punnished and threatened with arrest.
Until the procedures and requirements for the passengers are made public, as in not SSI, then the information provided through this service will not be complete or enforcable. Just like the woman held for over 40 minutes because she requested that her breast milk not be sent through the X-ray scanner as it is a medical fluid and should be screened by alternative methods.
- December 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM
- Anonymous said...
One point of emphasis I hope they make to passengers who carry those cards which state they have a condition or implant - that those cards are not a "free pass" as evidence of their implant. Those cards are only intended to more accurately and quickly convey to the screener the nature of their condition which might require special procedures in order to perform the screening. I've heard from several persons who hold cards who've had hip replacements who were angry that they had to get patted down when the old style metal detector machines beeped. "I had my card - they KNEW I had an implant!" Doesn't matter! The card only tells the screener that the person is going to beep the machine no matter how many times they check their pockets!
- December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM
- Anonymous said...
And who should people call when your poorly trained, unprofessional screeners ignore your ageny's own policies? Who should people call when your screeners force them to strip or remove braces or grope their genitals? The fact that you have to create this useless "help" line is itself testimony to the pathetic ineptitude of your agency. I will be driving this holiday season until sanity is restored to our airports.
- December 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM
- Anonymous said...
"TSA Cares, but only 9am - 9pm Monday -Friday. TSA doesn't care nights, weekends and public holidays....
In all seriousness, this program is useless if the TSO's on the front line don't care. And after my experience last week in Miami, it appears many of them don't.
- December 22, 2011 at 4:54 PM
- Anonymous said...
What we need is a 1-800 number in six inch high numbers clearly posted at every check point that the traveling public can call on the spot to instantly speak with a third-party non-TSA advocate as soon as a TSA abuse occurs or is in process.
It is unclear how calling in advance is going to help anyone through the security mess at airports. Typical of the TSA, "TSA Cares" inherently implies that the traveler is doing something wrong and they need to be better educated. When in fact it was over zealous TSA staff at JFK who created the recent incidents at JFK with several elderly citizens who were obviously not terrorists but the TSA would not back off until they were strip searched. Please Congress - do something about this out of control agency!
- December 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM
- Anonymous said...
A set of rules that can be violated upon the whim of a TSO is not a set of rules at all. Is the helpline just another way to pad the staffing?
- December 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM
- Anonymous said...
Are these folks are response as those in the Talk to TSA team you keep mentioning in your posts?
I have talked TO the TSA, but they never talked back.
- December 22, 2011 at 10:48 PM
- Anonymous said...
I have asked this before in good faith, but my comments were censored like many others'. What medical conditions are we required to disclose to the TSA?
There are millions of Americans with Diabetes. Will they be arrested and prosecuted if they fail to carry and provide an appropriate ID card? What about AIDS?
Are there particular surgeries that should or should not be disclosed to the TSO screening me?
Why are the rules secret if you expect us to follow them?
- December 23, 2011 at 12:55 AM
- Anonymous said...
This is just a smoke cover, that is going to be used as an excuse for the next blunders ("they should have contacted TSA cares first") or place to listen to and then ignore complaints.
If you really cared, you´d stop with the ridiculous, unscientific and ineffective personal searches. Getting rid of the shoes, liquids, laptop, full body scan and behavior detection nonsense would be a great start.
- December 23, 2011 at 10:59 AM
- Anonymous said...
The TSA does not need more useless help lines that do nothing more that continually repeat the same stale messages most Americans have heard time and again. The TSA believes it will somehow "educate" average American travelers to improve customer service. For those of us who travel frequently, it's clear the people who need "educating" are TSA employees. The first lesson TSA employees should learn is that their salaries are funded by law-abiding taxpaying Americans.
- December 23, 2011 at 11:11 AM
- Anonymous said...
The way I understand this new idea is that those who feel they may have difficulties during the screening process due to a medical issue, can call and receive advice on what to do to prepare for their trip and once they arrive. I also believe to understand it such that once someone does call, they're not left to say "well so-and-so on the hotline said..." rather once the call is placed, their name and travel itenterary will be forwarded to a local POC who will, in turn, ensure they have a comfortable experience.
It's on TSA, at this point, to ensure EVERYONE has access to and knowledge of this hotline so that all may utilize it. Placing signs just at the airport is not going to work... Great idea, lets see how the implementation goes...
- December 23, 2011 at 3:01 PM
- Anonymous said...
Be careful Bob, if the people answering the hotline actually answer questions, you might be out of a job.
- December 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM
- TSM said...
"I have asked this before in good faith, but my comments were censored like many others'. What medical conditions are we required to disclose to the TSA?
There are millions of Americans with Diabetes. Will they be arrested and prosecuted if they fail to carry and provide an appropriate ID card? What about AIDS?
Are there particular surgeries that should or should not be disclosed to the TSO screening me?"
You are not REQUIRED to disclose ANY medical condition to go through screening. HOWEVER, if you would like to, for example, bypass the metal detector due to, let's say, a pregnancy or defib or something you do need to just let the TSO know that you do not want to go through the walk through. They will arrange for a pat down.
Now if you have a sensitive area that may affect the pat down, or a insulin pump or ostomy bag, that you have to let the TSO know about so they can be careful of that area.
If you are carrying foods that would normally be prohibited and they are required due to say, diabetes, then you need to let the TSO know that if you want to take the foods through.
- December 24, 2011 at 10:56 AM
- Anonymous said...
"They will arrange for a pat down.
Now if you have a sensitive area that may affect the pat down, or a insulin pump or ostomy bag, that you have to let the TSO know about so they can be careful of that area."
Unless you're an elderly woman with a back brace going through security at JFK, eh?
Has the TSA admitted fault in that debacle yet or is it still blaming the passenger?
- December 25, 2011 at 2:13 AM
- Anonymous said...
Sorry, but every contact I´ve had with the TSA demostrates they don´t care.
- December 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM
- RB said...
Seems to me that TSA would be more progressive if TSA trained its employees properly and then demanded that TSA employees performed their jobs correctly.
Perhaps the claims by TSA that TSA employees are all highly trained is not exactly true.
- December 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM
- Anonymous said...
" Anonymous said...
"They will arrange for a pat down.
Now if you have a sensitive area that may affect the pat down, or a insulin pump or ostomy bag, that you have to let the TSO know about so they can be careful of that area."
Unless you're an elderly woman with a back brace going through security at JFK, eh?
Has the TSA admitted fault in that debacle yet or is it still blaming the passenger?
December 25, 2011 2:13 AM"
Wasn't there. Neither were you. Neither of us knows what really happened.
- December 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM
- Anonymous said...
"Wasn't there. Neither were you. Neither of us knows what really happened."
Sure I do. And you do, too. The essential fact elements are not in dispute. TSA policy is that no one must remove a medical device. The passenger was required to remove a medical device. Both the TSA account and the passenger's account agree on this.
The question is, why do you dispute it?
- December 29, 2011 at 8:02 AM
- Ryan Russman said...
This could definitely be a wonderful thing if implemented correctly. To start this is a great way to try to educate people on what this hotline can do and what it will do. I think, like all new things it may take some time to tweak the process, but hopefully it will help many more than it angers. The biggest thing will be to make sure that there is good communication between the TSA and the people doing the searches, without that there is no progress.
- December 29, 2011 at 9:15 AM
- RB said...
Ryan Russman said...
This could definitely be a wonderful thing if implemented correctly.
No it is not a wonderful thing.
It is an indication of the failure of TSA to train its employees, to monitor the performance of TSA employees, and total lack of TSA leadership. Even worse TSA is focusing this for people with medical and other issues.
This hot line will not take care of TSA employees confiscating cupcakes, thefts from luggage by TSA employees, interference of civil rights by TSA employees, not knowing which ID's are acceptable and so forth.
What really needs to happen is some real training for TSA employees, standards of accountability that very strict, some real leadership by TSA managers and the willingness by TSA to fire employees who just can't do the job.
TSA is so broken that I'm not sure the mess can be cleaned up and if that is the case then all airport screening should be returned to the owners of the property being protected. Government does not rightfully have a mandate to provide basic security to private property owners.
- December 29, 2011 at 12:56 PM
- Anonymous said...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2012/10/tsa-embarrasses-woman-en-route-to-end-of-life-trip/ How shameful is this?
- October 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM
- Jill said...
I would like to mention what an amazing job TSA did to help us. The agent in Hartford met us at the door, got us through security and even went to the ticket agent for us and got a the preboarding pass from our airline. I was having trouble finding the one in Orlando so I went to the first person I saw and she walked us to where we needed to be and found the agent that was supposed to help us. He was also awesome and got us through the craziness that is Orlando security without a hitch. That has traditionally been one of the most stressful parts of the trip for us but the TSA agents were awesome. They were all knowledgeable and friendly and I was most impressed that the woman didn't just point to where we should go but actually walked with us.
- May 25, 2014 at 2:12 PM
- GSOLTSO said...
Jill sez - "I would like to mention what an amazing job TSA did to help us."
I am happy to hear that we were able to provide you the assistance getting through Jill! Safe travels and thanks for letting us know.
TSA Blog Team
- May 26, 2014 at 4:40 AM
- Ambreen Khan said...
TSA cares saved our sanity when we flew back from our vacation from Miami to Toronto with 2 autistic kids ! There are positive and negative experiences with any service or agency ! TSA cares staff at Miami airport were awesome guiding us through screening with a professional and compassionate attitude ! Kudos to you guys !
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Sam McFall is going to law school when he graduates from Ozarks in May. As with any aspiring law student, he applied to a lot of places, hoping naturally to be accepted in a good program, with maybe a back-up acceptance just in case.
So far he has been accepted at UALR, Tulsa, St. Louis University, and Michigan State - and waitlisted at Washington University, the latter a top 25 law school. "He's catnip to admissions personnel," says Dr. David Strain, division chair of Humanities and Fine Arts and a prelaw advisor.
"Actually I started out thinking I might go to medical school," says McFall. "Then I took some pre-med classes and decided that wasn't for me. In my sophomore year I was an accounting major for awhile. Finally I settled on English, with minors in History and Economics, and decided I wanted to study the law."
Sam McFall, a senior English major, has received acceptance letters from a number of law programs.
He says there are several components in the law school application, and he worked hard on all of them. "You write your personal statement," he said, "as well as taking the Law School Admission Test (LSAT). You also have to get your letters of recommendation. You do all that stuff as early as you can."
McFall says he put all his writing skills to use in his personal statement. "A lot of the purpose of the personal statement is to show the law school how good a writer you are," he said. "I really concentrated on making sure my writing was crisp and clear. It feels good to know I have a good grasp of the language, that I can make an argument and justify my statements on paper."
One major factor everyone applying for law school is the LSAT. McFall attributes much of his success there to Dr. Strain's course "Critical Thinking for Pre-Law Students." He recommends the course for anyone in his position.
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So far, Dr. Strain says, every student but one who's taken the course has scored above the national median, and three of the thirteen have scored in the 90th percentile or above. "Most people think a high score is important because it helps gain acceptance at prestigious schools, and that's been true for several of our students," he said. "However, even more important is the fact it can help to secure very generous scholarships for law school. Since many graduates leave law school as much as $120,000 in debt (not counting student loans from college), a scholarship can keep career options open that might otherwise be unaffordable. I can think of five or six of our recent pre-law students who have been offered renewable scholarships in $15-20,000 range."
McFall says he's thinking of accepting the offer from UALR "unless I hear good news from Washington University."
What has the Ozarks experience meant to Sam McFall? "I've always been a quiet person," he said, "but since I've come to campus I feel that I've opened up as a person. And the academics - especially in the English major - is really reading and writing intensive, and since that's something I'm going to be doing constantly in law school, I feel that the U of O curricula, not only in English but in Economics, History - it has really prepared me well for what I am about to deal with. It made all this possible for me."


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I fell in love with my pgp2k the first time I used her, which was this past sunday. I plan on bottom lining it due to the dropping of fps from the co2, but thats not my point. Are there any pistols from the early paintball ages that aren't pump? I always hear people talk about pistol pump play and I know now when having a mechanical pistol would come in handy. Thanks in advance.
Old mechanical side arm for pump!
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:57 PM
Look here: http://www.mcarterbr...son-thread.html
I show up at a field that I never been to before for some rec-play wearing cargo pants with a t-shirt....carrying a old mech Spyder and two pringle potato chip cans for pods shoved in the pants pockets. The stares are priceless and after the first game or so you get to see the grins from the ref and players who know....priceless.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:44 PM
The 3357, AGA62, and the Sydarm to name a few.
What?! I'm all out of powdered toast?!
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This is just gun shop owner greed... nothing more. I'd call back and tell them thanks, but no thanks. Also tell them that they have lost a customer due to their greed and tell them you will never do business with them again. Hell, if they are like most FFLs and charge 25 bucks, It's basically free money for them to receive the firearm. It takes about 5 minutes to do the paper work, if that.
My FFL is a gunsmith that lives down the road from me and only charges 20.00. But, I have gone to a couple of gun stores in the past with no issues like you're having. I'd look for someone like that.


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Hi guys, I have a six month old German Shepherd, and he loves eating his own poo...
We've always had this problem with him. It's mainly his own that he's interested in, but will occasionally pick one up on a walk. It's very rare that he does that though - maybe once per month. If he investigates one on a walk, telling him "leave it" will usually work.
I've put this down as something that he would grow out of, but he hasn't yet. I've tried a few things so far.
Our main method for managing the habit has just been picking it up as soon as he does it. When we do this, he will always return to the area that he did his business and eats the grass that still has a few "leftovers" in. When we're out on a walk, we generally do a circular route, and on the way back he will return to where he laid a cable on the way out and give the ground a good licking. This was particularly embarrassing this morning, when he greeted another dog walker with what I can only describe as a "****ty brown nose". Also, occasionally, he will manage to sneak one out in the garden when we have our back turned or we're not paying attention. This is very rare though.
Recently, we have been using some tablets from the pet shop. I can't remember the brand, but they are basically tablets that are meant to make the mess "unpalatable". We tried those for around a month, but they don't appear to do anything and are quite expensive.
We use positive dog training with our boy, and have always used a clicker with him. Is there maybe a way we can integrate that into stopping this habit?
Another things I was wondering about - could it be diet related? We feed him Pets at Home's "premium" dog brand "Wainwrights". His weight is fine, and we generally use bits of kibble for training, or small pieces of chicken or cheese if we want to motivate him. He loves food...
It's frustrating. I know that eating his own mess isn't likely to hurt him, but we want to break the habit. The main downside of his little appetite is that I'm not happy to leave him in the garden unattended, which cuts his outside romp time down significantly. Especially at the moment when it's cold and pouring with rain in the UK.
My 3 year old just starting eating his own mess in additional to everyone elses including goose poop. No advice but I just wanted to say I feel your pain.
OH lord, isn't that just the grossest thing ever LOL
I've never had the problem, but have heard of a few suggestions:
1 - diet can be a factor, sometimes the dog is lacking something in it's diet and is looking elsewhere
2 - it definitely becomes a habit, and after a couple of successful "meals" will be much harder to break
3 - the pills that your vet said will make it less "tasty"? Really, like poop isn't gross enough? LMAO ... sorry, can't resist that one - there really isn't much that's absolutely disgusting to a dog ... seriously ... they'll eat any type of poop they see - deer, rabbit, goose, duck ... you name it, they'll eat it if given a chance! Ask the farmers on here ... cow poop seems to be a favourite, and they love to roll in it too!
4 - what are your feelings / actions about it around your dog. I watched a woman at an off leash park freak and run at her dog as he was trying to gobble some down and he thought it was a game ... almost like the poop was a toy, and he had to grab it before she got there ... are you calm about it? are you freaking out? (I get it, it's gross) but if you're providing drama / excitement the dog's get hyper too!
You need a SOLID leave it, and I mean SOLID ... so that the second the dog is done his business and turns around to investigate you say LEAVE IT ... and mean it ... not a pretty little "leave it" but a STERN leave it (you're not yelling, but you're using "that" voice.)
If you have to have a leash on the dog and be ready to tug away so that he's not rewarded for getting to it.
I'm sure others will have some ideas for you as well! Good luck!
I think over time, I have definitely moved towards a "freaking out" reaction. It has definitely reached the stage where the race is on as soon as he squats. Maybe that's part of the issue.
I'm going to try coaxing him away with treats and calmy picking it up afterwards I think.
It happened last night - he went out and squatted right at the end of the garden. By the time I ran down the garden, he had picked it up and ran right past me. Obviously, I can't actually catch him once he's in flight. He likes to stand just out of reach and make me watch him eat it, the sadistic little git!
I would put him on leash to do his business. As soon as he's done walk away, leash in hand. Go about 4-5 feet away and have him sit, praise him / reward.
Walk around the yard a bit with him on leash and edge towards it, if he lunges towards it, a quick "correction" on the leash or a verbal LEAVE IT and have him sit again, praise / reward. By correction, I mean a quick tug or something AWAY from the poop.
The key for this tho is the solid leave it command.
And yup, you're amping him up with your level of frustration LOL ... he's like OMG I have to eat this FASTER before they come and get me ... it's become a race for him ... and he's winning LOL (what a race to win ha ha ha!) And yes, that's a HUGE part of the issue - he's young, it's a game and it's one he wins! At 6 months EVERYTHING is a freaking game!!!
Seriously, I wouldn't let him in the back yard by himself off leash until you've got this licked (pun intended!)
Halo is 4 years old and she'll still eat poop if she get the chance - either hers or Keefer's. I don't think it's diet related, I think she's just got ridiculous food drive! The ONLY way to get her not to do it is to go outside with them and beat her to the punch and pick it up right away.
That's a PITA in the morning before work because it's early and I have very little extra time to stand around and wait for them to poop, but if I just let them out to do their business while I stay in the house and do something else, she WILL eat it. :sick:
Last weekend I had early flyball practice, and I actually got dressed outside in the dog run while I waited for them to poop because I wanted to make sure that she didn't get the opportunity to eat it since we were going to be playing tug, and I would have my hands in her mouth delivering treats. :wild:
I had this issue with Tess when I first brought her home at 7 weeks and it continued for a couple of weeks until a friend of mine recommended a product called Potty Mouth. They are pills and you give the dog one for every 10lbs of body weight, for around 2 weeks and it is supposed to make the poo foul tasting to the dog, as you described below. This particular product worked for me and Tess has not eaten her own poo since she started taking these pills. The friend who recommended them to me said that she had tried other products to no avail but this one had worked for her and so far, it has worked for me. Now Tess will approach her poo, sniff and then totally ignore it, which I couldn't be more pleased about. I just thought I'd mention it, in case your open to trying something different.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do, it is a nasty habit.
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Sorry about the slow reply - I haven't been online much this week!
I think I've found a novel solution to him eating the grass after I've picked up - I just pick it up and dump a bucket over the site. He seems really confused by it - he just has a sniff around, and then generally just strolls off and leaves it. I'm hoping that keeping this up will de-sensitise him a bit. I'm giving him lots of praise and a treat if one's handy when he leaves the site alone.
As a rule now, he is not allowed out on his own in what we are now calling "the danger zone" (the times he usually does his business). Inconvenient and annoying, but it can't be helped I suppose.
Since doing this (since the weekend, really), he now seems to be getting a bit more interested in other dogs' mess. It's hard to tell, because I walk him off the lead, and mostly, in the dark at the moment, but I think he finding some on walks.
As for the diet thing - he does seem a bit skinny at the moment, although to be honest, I'm not sure how big he should be. He has pretty thick fur, so I can't really see his ribs, but I can feel them. I understand that this is normal, but I do wonder if maybe he's a bit hungry and this is making the problem worse. I am feeding him towards the higher end of the scale on the food packet (he has kibble - about 440g per day, plus a few tidbits/treats most days). Perhaps I'll up his food a bit.
I wanted to upload a pic for someone to comment on his weight, but I don't really have anything that shows his weight if that makes sense. This is the closest to a belly shot that I could find:
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Scarlett will eat her poop if it is the slightest bit soft. She LOVES bunny poop...it's so nasty!! We watch her when she goes out now and if she is even close to a pile, we use the electronic noise repeller. She does NOT like that noise and will immediately cease what she is doing. We then give her the positive tone and let her come in the house with us.
Poop eating seems to be a common GSD thing...among males and females. I don't know why. I'm sure someone on here has an answer.
The ONLY thing that has worked for us is vigiliance. We have to watch Scarlett like a hawk and catch her in the act. She is MUCH better than she was, particularly with regard to eating her own poop. Keeping her diet very constant and never allowing her to get stuff that will upset her system is critical.
PMSL Sorry I couldn't help but laugh
I'm not any help but you could freeze it and use it as treats...very cheap hahaha :p Helping the planet by recycling your dogs poop...oooh maybe you could start a business with your dogs business!
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Next month, I will be relocating to Singapore after two years in India. These two years have been an amazing learning experience for me, both from a personal and professional point of view. A very intense experience too! Of the few Hindi words I learned during my stint in India, there is one that I am particularly fond of: "jugaad," which can be translated as "making things work." This is one way to summarize what India is all about — and why India works as an economy, in spite of the gods and despite all of the challenges that India currently faces as a society.
This concept has taken on a lot more importance on the global scene in recent years from an innovation management point of view. A former Forrester colleague has recently coauthored a book about the concept and how it could "reignite American ingenuity." The economic and ecological crises that we have been through over the past few years call for new ways of approaching economic development and growth. And the "jugaad" concept could bring interesting solutions to our modern societies.


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Undefeated? Something or some team is going to give in three of our four featured match-ups this week, as a few unbeatens are going head-to-head. There's some powerful names without a loss still, and whoever wins these matchups will make a big statement about their championship aspirations.
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Alta (4-0) at Jordan (3-0)
This is possibly the one contest with national implications one Maxpreps.com listed as a top 10 national game of the week. The Beetdiggers are ranked No. 1 in 5A, with Alta just behind at No. 2. Will the rankings hold true, or will the Hawks show they are still the team to beat in this region?
Alta appears to have as strong a team as ever, despite bringing just about an all-new defense in this season. The Hawks had a pretty serious struggle with Riverton last week, but the defense came up with five sacks to help preserve a 19-7 win. This defensive line in particular has been impressive, with Brock Davies emerging as a pass rushing nightmare and Sonatane Lui clogging up the middle. This offense has thrived on the pass, and receivers Ammon Barker and Harrison Handley already have combined for more than 650 yards and six touchdowns. But quarterback Chipper Lucero has as many interceptions as touchdowns seven and if Alta gives away a few turnovers, it will be tough keeping up with Jordan.
The Beetdigger offense, as it did last year, revolves around sophomore quarterback Austin Kafentzis. If you count the controversial East game statistics, he has accumulated 20 total touchdowns in three games and three quarters of a game. He's potent through the air and on the ground, and only has thrown two interceptions this year. But to overlook his supporting cast would be unfair: Kafentzis works behind a fantastic line, Clay Moss has also been a strong running presence, and Mason Krueger and Nick West have established themselves as solid, athletic receiving options. The reason Jordan lost this match-up last year was turnovers, and that still could be a concern last week, the Beetdiggers were neck-and-neck with Kearns at halftime thanks to turnovers. But defensively, Jordan has its own weapons, notching 10 sacks so far this year and grabbing eight interceptions. The Beetdiggers bring the heat on the pass rush, and it should be interesting to see if Alta's big line can stave them off.
East (3-0) at Woods Cross (4-0)
This Region 6 opener could be one of the best, even though it features one of the teams that struggled last year against a 4A finalist. Some consider East to be the best team in the state, but the Leopards have a pretty tough region ahead of them, and the Wildcats are aiming to get East's region season off to a rocky start.
Consider Woods Cross' momentum: It is 4-0 for the first time in 24 years. Aside from a tight game against Mountain Crest, it has bounced its other opponents this season, averaging 36 points per game. It's hard to argue anyone in 4A is more critical to his team's success than Sean Barton, a senior Stanford commit who leads the Wildcats in rushing and receiving, a combined 775 yards of offense and six touchdowns. Skyler Farnes, a returning all-stater, has been a stalwart at quarterback throwing eight touchdowns to only one interception. Barton is also an impact player on defense at safety, but Woods Cross' unit is stacked with talent. Utah commit Filipo Mokofisi has four sacks this year, and so does Deion Saamulu. That front four can eat up a lot of offensive lines.
But then again, East is the most talented squad the Wildcats have faced this year. Last week, the running game churned along against Fremont while the team's top offensive option, running back Ula Tolutau, was sitting out following an ejection against Jordan. Expect the beefy Tolutau, Jewka Patetefa and quarterback Isaac Valles to present a problem for Woods Cross' defense. The Leopards' biggest strength is anyone can run the ball: Six backs already have at least one rushing touchdown this year. Defensively, East is also fearsome. It starts with Korey Rush, Sesi Salt and the ravenous line up front. Linebacker Jake Baptiste has emerged as a pass rushing threat, and Utah State commit Zach Swenson is pretty tough to throw on in the backfield.
Dixie (4-0) at Hurricane (4-0)
Get ready for a big one in Southern Utah, the match-up that is the talk of St. George. Two undefeated squads in Region 9 will battle for the upper hand in the title race, and it's not unreasonable to think that it could be a 3A championship preview after all, two Region 9 teams did meet in last year's final. It will pit the quarterback who some consider 3A's best player against a team that has made the last four title games.
Dixie has its own dual threat quarterback in senior Blake Barney. In four games, he's accounted for nearly 1,300 yards and 14 touchdowns. He has speed, but also an arm that makes it all work. His favorite targets are Tanner Webster and Drew Batchelor, who have combined for five touchdown receptions. After Barney, no one else on Dixie has more than 111 yards rushing. The unit the Flyers should be concerned about is the defense. Although they've picked off a few passes this year, last week they struggled against Pine View's star back Prentiss Miller, who had 156 yards. Since Hurricane is basically all rushing, Dixie will have to find some way to plug up that attack.
It won't be easy, considering Hurricane has another talented team that many think could roll to a repeat in 3A. The foundation of the Tigers' run game is fullback Jared Edwards, a straightaway bulldozer, and Adam Thompson, a shifty, quick darter who can roll outside. The two have combined for nearly 800 yards, and Edwards has been a touchdown machine with 12 on the season. Quarterback Mckay Prince doesn't throw often, but boasts a startlingly efficient 24-for-29 effort this season. In its in-state contests thus far, Hurricane has also been effective on defense, allowing only 11 points per game. Part of that has been the Tigers' grinding, clock-eating style of offense, and but they've also recorded their fair share of sacks and interceptions. The one blemish was against Legacy, Nev., which rolled up 34 points and 367 rushing yards on Hurricane. The Tigers hope that Barney and the Flyers will be less successful.
Syracuse (4-0) at Davis (3-1)
The Titans, rolling to an undefeated record so far, are the ones getting all the hype out of Region 1. But Davis' consistency over the years has a way of going understated at least until they start knocking off everybody they play. Solid starts to the season have set up an enticing region play opener.
It might be almost a surprise that Davis has gotten out to such a solid start, but maybe not considering the Darts always seem to be battling for the region title. The defense, as always, has been Davis' strength. Since a season-opening loss to Brighton, the Darts have only allowed three touchdowns in three wins. They've also been opportunistic, with seven interceptions and six fumble recoveries to go with eight sacks. The offense has benefitted from that turnover bonanza, led by quarterback Gage Cook. The senior is the team's leading rusher, and he has six touchdowns. Davis runs a solid play-action passing attack, and Cook can air it out. His favorite target so far has been Colby Child, who has 15 receptions. But Cook has thrown four interceptions to only three touchdowns, and he could also use more run support from Parker Rose if the Darts are to topple Syracuse.
Actually, it's almost backward that Davis would be trying to figure out the Titans, given that they have a 4-1 edge in this match-up. But Syracuse has proven to be no pushover this year, giving up less than seven points per game on its undefeated run. Cardon Malon and Jace Purser lead the pass rush with a combined seven sacks, while Kavika Fonua and Diante Mitchell have six interceptions together in the secondary. That combo is that much harder to beat when you consider how efficient Syracuse has been with the ball in its hands. Quarterback Brock Anderson has thrown nine touchdown passes and no picks, and has also run for three scores. He's backed up by Mason Woodward, who is looking to bounce back after a difficult week against Box Elder. What's scary is how Syracuse spreads it out in the passing game: Six different receivers have caught touchdowns this year.
Quick hitters
• The other battle of undefeated teams this week is Juan Diego at Granger, in which Tani Lehauli, the state's leader in rushing yards with a whopping 944, will try to lead the Lancers to 5-0 for the first time since 1989.
• Brighton is as hot as any 5A team right now at 4-0, and will be looking to extend that streak against Pleasant Grove, which has cooled since its high-powered start.
• Cyprus faces a tough match-up against Bountiful this week, but the Pirates remain hopeful that they can come up with their first region win since 2010.
• Bingham and Cottonwood seems like a marquee match-up, but the Colts have some historical catching up to do: The Miners haven't dropped this contest in the last 12 meetings.
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Early on in the Obama presidency, The Hill published a news analysis piece on the "meaninglessness of the 24/7 news cycle." Author Scott Nance counseled the journalists "who contribute to the multimedia cacophony" to "rethink their place in the universe," and reserved special ire for the contrived narrative that the president -- by default the most visible public figure in the country, perhaps the world -- could possibly be "overexposed" [via Nexis]:
And, in perhaps the greatest irony of all for those who are themselves the ones feeding and perpetuating the constant stream of mostly soundbites and general bloviation that calls itself news and analysis -- you would think that Obama himself is just talking too darn much under some threat of being "overexposed."
Like the proverbial game of telephone, these storylines just get more exaggerated and overblown as they are repeated to fill TV airtime, column inches in a newspaper, or lines of text on blogs.
That Obama proved the truth of that this week with his primetime White House press conference probably says as much, or more, about how pointless much of the so-called 24/7 news cycle really is, as it does about the president himself.
Sure, people are real angry about AIG greed, but most Americans continue to express confidence in Obama and his policies. Following Tuesday's primetime presidential press conference -- and after a week of Obama getting hammered for being under attack and "overexposed" -- a national study among 1,375 Americans revealed that confidence levels increased among both Democrats and independents regarding the president's approach to the nation's critical issues like the economy, education, and the federal budget. Confidence levels decreased only among Republicans, a group likely to have a negative impression of Obama anyway.
That advice appears not to have been fully absorbed.
Click over to the front page of The Hill this morning and you'll see this headline prominently advertised: "Obama runs risk of overexposure with his most recent media blitz." The story itself carries zero weight, chronicling as it does the many public appearances of a public figure who is embarking on a publicity tour -- also known as a reelection campaign:
To be sure, the president has been contending with particularly significant issues lately, including the end of the war in Iraq, that have fed a need to go to the media. And the strategy of a 24-7 Obama on the television has worked before for the White House.
Still, there are new risks in the most recent flurry of activity given the president's dismal poll numbers and the reality that voters have been hearing from the president a lot over the past three years.
To underscore the vapidity of the exercise, the first person quoted in the piece is Doug Schoen, the "Democratic consultant" who champions Republican causes and whose analyses have long-since sacrificed the assumption of good-faith. Schoen wants the president to be "less visible," which is perhaps a fallback position from his much-mocked call for Obama to abandon reelection altogether.
Stories like these, as The Hill rightly observed in 2009, are meaningless filler. They add nothing, but do provide one more horribly vacant talking point for talking heads who traffic in such banalities to mindlessly regurgitate during their afternoon cable news hit.
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Arsène Wenger is happy to be angry when required.
The Arsenal manager was captured taking out his frustrations on a water bottle last weekend as his side allowed Tottenham to comeback and grab a 3-2 win at Emirates Stadium.
The Frenchman's mood was altogether more placid on Saturday as Arsenal went temporarily top by securing victory at Aston Villa. Afterwards, Wenger justified his emotions on derby day.
"I was angry," he said. "The day I don't care anymore I will stop. I want this team to win because I believe in them. I feel they are hungry to win and they want to win so I just want to help them as much as I can.
"I don't master my reputation. What matters to me is Arsenal Football Club more than my reputation and I want people who love Arsenal to be happy.
"I try to give them that happiness and that's it. Of course I have my pride, I want to achieve as mush as I can and give my best and I don't think I will ever change on that front.
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|Since the starter is the one component that will require the most current to operate, I'd use a heavy gauge cable from the engine to the frame. Heavy as in 0 gauge or heavier. Bigger is better, size does matter. The best method is to run a heavy gauge ground from the battery (or in your case, the switch) directly to the engine, but as long as your connections to the frame are clean and tight, you should be OK. A #10 wire is only rated for 30 amps, and the starter could draw several hundred amps when you crank er' over. And you can't have too many grounds in your car's electrical system. Ground the body to the frame in a couple of places, and engine to the frame and use star washers between the terminal and the frame. They'll bite into the metal and provide a better connection. You could always install a heavy cable directly from the engine to your disconnect switch (ground) later if you need to. Let us know what you do, and how it worked out for you.
i don't see a problem with helicoils, but i'd rather see and SS bolt welded to the frame. i've used this several times with no problems. i'm also not big on that sw on the ground cable, i'd be on the + side and kill the battery for everything and run grounds from engine to frame and put in a ground block under dash to use for gages.. just make sure the engine ground is lg nuff. u can get away with a #10 on the dash grounds. of course ground the battery to the frame where its at.. also make sure frame to body is grounded.... grounds everywhere ain't gonna hurt nut'n.
also don't the optima bat's need another (regular) battery in paralleled to be able to charge it ????
When I set my cars up with the batery in the back.. I weld a bolt on the frame by the battery and one by the motor.. I then run a ground to the frame from the batery, Then run a ground to the motor and cab from the front bolt..I then run a hot from the battery to the battery kill switch mounted as close to the battery as you can then from there to the starter.. (chevy)
Doing it this way, Makes the whole frame a ground..
I have a 36 Ford pickup and have completed installation of the wiring kit. What I need to know now is how to properly ground it. I have the battery mounted between the bottom of the bed and the frame. I have the ground cable running from the battery to a shutoff switch that is mounted in the floor of the cab and then from the switch to the frame. If I do have to run a ground from the battery to the engine will a heavy gauge wire (maybe a #10) due instead of a full size cable?
Also, my battery is an Optima which lays on it's side and I use the connections with the female threads to hook up my trikle charger to. The threads are stripping out. Has anyone used Helacoils to fix this problem? Thanks.
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Canisius College, Niagara University and the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference were selected as a finalist for hosting the Frozen Four, the NCAA announced on Wednesday.
Canisius, the MAAC and Niagara are one of 10 finalists bidding to serve as a host for the one of the Frozen Four events held in 2015 through 2018. The arena along with the Buffalo Sabres, Canisius and Niagara previously hosted the event in 2003.
The finalists for 81 of the 89 championships were selected by the respective sport committees, which are made up of coaches and administrators from NCAA member schools and conferences, from an original pool of 1,948 bids.
The committees will select the winning sites, which must then be approved by the appropriate divisional championships cabinets/committees before being announced via webcast at NCAA.com on Dec. 11. The announcement will also include all pre-determined regional host sites.
The MAAC has also submitted bids to be a regional host for the NCAA Division I Men's Lacrosse quarterfinal rounds at Ralph Wilson Stadium in Orchard Park, N.Y. Those bids cover from 2014-15 through 2017-18. The MAAC was also selected as a finalist to host NCAA Championships for women's rowing and wrestling.
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Don't worry about how much or how far because that is the painters job, to create illusion so you don't know where it starts or stops. The quarter, the rocker, the hood and the lower fender extension will all have to be blended.
If done properly every component that is bolted to those panels comes off, the bumpers, lights, scoop grilles, ect.
The entire panel is prepaired by scuffing it lightly. The door is painted then the color is brought out onto those adjacent panels. Then all the panels are cleared.
It does sound crazy I know, why not just match the color? I am telling you the facts, most shops don't have a guy who can match colors as close as you would need. It simply isn't part of the deal anymore, it has evolved into what I described and blending is the norm. When you replace a door on a Mini Cooper you have to do the same thing, blend the quarter, the rocker, the hood, the fender ext, and the cowl panel where the wipers are. No one questions a thing, the insurance pay without so much as a blink of an eye, this is where we have gone. And if your shop is a quality shop they will have a life time warrantee on everything they do so that paint will have a longer warrantee than Lotus gives.
Ok, lets say we paint the whole side, what about the color/shade not matching? It just wont matter since you cant see the other side/right color?
How far back and forward do you think will need to be blended?
Since they took the carbon out of the back back in the late seventies there is no such thing as "Black" so the "black" formula will have many toners in it just like every other color.
And you are right on the money, if it's blended properly even another pro will see nothing.
|I would think If a guy were to sand and mask the whole side then paint the door and rocker blending out the paint and clear coat the whole side it would take a body guy with a real sharp eye to see a difference in color. Any one else would never know it had been touched. THe days of panel painting are over unless it a black or maybe some whites.
Things have changed so much in the last decade when it comes to color matches. Painters blend EVERYTHING and don't spend the time they once spent matching colors. Back when I was a young whipper snapper I walked to work up hill both ways in the snow, with no shoes.
Honestly, it has REALLY changed. When I was new to this business you got ONE formula and YOU matched it by hand to get it closer. Then came base/coat clear coat and blending became much more acceptable. Blend into the next panel became the norm. But even then we blended within the panel much more than they do now. I would blend a fender to hood with only a few inches, they simply don't do this anymore, the hood will get blended.
But it really went nuts when the paint manufacturers started offering "alternates" or "variants". They will have as much as 10-12 or even more formulas for the same color! The auto manufacturing hasn't changed, there were always varying shades of the same color because of different "batches" of color that was sold to the manufacturer. It's understandable that a 55 gallon drum of paint sold by PPG in January is going to be a different shade of color than another 55 gallon mixed up a year later and sent to the factory to paint cars. Those variants were matched by the painter a few decades ago, he tinted those colors and made them blendable or panel paintable close.
Now, the average painter has lost that skill because the paint manufacturer provides a bunch of "alternates". Today "matching" a color by the typical painters skills is simply picking the closest alternate formula! They have lost the skills needed to actually match the colors.
I had no color chips of your Lotus but these are four variants of a yellow for a Ford that will give you an idea. These are all the "same" color code. My cheapie camera didn't do it Justice, all four look pretty different and not even close to good enough for a panel paint of your door in the middle of the side of that car. It would stand out like a sore thumb with any of these colors.
I am thinking, you car is going to be blended to make you happy with the match.
|Brian, To my knowledge it is a base coat clearcoat paint with no additives. I would definitely understand these problems with metal flake or pearl.
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i agree with martin.. a friend of mine owns an opel gt fully custom.. two times he's had someone hit his car, even thought is was very small damage the custom painter tried but failed to match and fully painted the car both times..
Is this color a pearl or metallic? If it is a solid color without pearl or metallic it can't "flip flop", it can have a case looking different from an angle but it isn't a "flip flop" that only happens with metallics or pearls.
"Panel painting" a door in the middle of a car is asking a lot but if it is a solid color they should be able to pull it off. A pearl or metallic, this is a BIG request.
The difference inside under lights or outside under sun light is understandable and hard to eliminate but not impossible. It's caused by a condition called "metamerism". You now how a color can change under certain light? You have seen this I'm sure. I remember we had some super yellow street lights in town on one street and my bright red truck would be absolutely hideous brown under them, this was caused by metamerism.
Color is being "killed" or neutralized by the light from the light source.
Ok, so you know this happens right? Well when you have two panels painted by a different paint company, you are going to have different formulas that created those colors. The different formulas will likely have different toners making up the color. Well the color may look the same under white light, but if the light is yellowed or blued as most every light isn't "white" those toners that are in the two "colors" (the new and the old paint) are being affected differently by the light because of the different colors within the color.
Whew, I think I confused myself with that one.
I have to tell you, it is the norm to blend, if the panels are prepared properly there is nothing wrong with it. I know I feel the same way as to not paint more of the car than what is really needed. I use to be a nut on that and would spend a LOT of time (too darn much time) matching colors so I could panel paint cars. But I have to tell you, if your car is a basecoat clearcoat, why worry about the fender and quarter having another coat of paint and clear on it? I know we don't WANT it to, as building up paint makes it more likely to chip easier. But man, if it's done properly it will hold up pretty well.
They "spotted it" right? THAT was blending. To "panel paint" the door in the side of a car is REALLY asking a lot. The hood, the decklid, you can get a way with murder. But a door in the middle of the car, that is a BIGGIE to pull off.
If they paint that door over and over because they can't pull of the color that is building up a bunch of paint and clear on that door too.
The thing is, can you find someone who CAN match the color for you, it's going to be a battle "forcing" someone who isn't capable (or they would have already done it) to match the color properly.
question on paint flip flop and color matching B106 saffron yellow
I have a 2005 Lotus Elise saffron yellow (B106 paint code)that was involved in a hit and run. The damages were to the right side door and lower rocker panel. I took it to the most recommended collision center in the Louisville, KY area and they cannot match the door. This place works on Mercedes, Ferraris, Porsches, etc. and I have seen their work and it seems to be top notch. I had three spots in the back of the vehicle that were spotted in and a spot under the right side door repaired and you cannot tell that anything was ever repaired. I requested the shop to paint the door and not blend it. I would really rather not have the whole side of the vehicle painted, especially now that they cant get the color to match. This vehicle is in excellent condition. I know that paint fades over time exposed to the sun but after every drive, this car gets washed and hand dried. I will then drive it around the block to knock any potential surface rust off of the rotors from the wash. I will then dry the new waster spots, pull it in to the garage. Once in the garage it gets plugged into a battery tender and covered until the next outing. This vehicle does not see the rain. This vehicle is in excellent condition. I gave the paint code(B106) and paint manufacturer(DuPont) to the collision center from the get go (appox 9 months ago). The collision center has painted a new and old door several times and just cant seem to get it right, or even close IMHO even though each time I am told this one is the best yet. I am being told now they have another shade but they want to paint the side of the vehicle and blend the front end. When looking at the door it looks kind of gray or a shade off. The door looks close in sunlight but horrible inside under the lights. I have even asked if they are painting/priming it first with a white base coat. I am being told that the reason it looks off is due to the flip flop of the paint. I understand the flip flop effect of the paint, and would have more patience if it were pearlescent but why cant they get the door to match the rest of the vehicle? Again, they spotted it in and it looks great at any angle. I really do not want to give them the go ahead to paint the complete side and front section if it is not the right color. I understand that they can fade it but I will still have the right side of my car the wrong color or shade just faded to not notice it as much. I dont know what to do at this point? I greatly appreciate any advice and insight to my situation.
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The ODF alliance (http://www.odfalliance.org ) recently applauded Brazil's decision to recommend ODF as the government's preferred format (e-Ping Interoperability Framework version 2.0); India's decision to use ODF at a major state government agency; Italy's decision to recognize ODF as a national standard (www.uninfo.polito.it/SC34/SC34_Norme.htm#26300 ), and Poland for demonstrating serious interest in adopting ODF in the wake of a national meeting held for its government with broad participants from industry and non-profit agencies (http://www.odfalliance.org/press/Release20061128.pdf ). So here is the global 2006 tally of public policy supporting ODF and other important information:
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- Denmark made a parlimentary decision on the need for open standards in digital exchanges
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- Malaysia is in the process to do likewise
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- Hong Kong, China recognizes ODF in its interoperability framework
- Minnesota, USA submitted a bill (although not approved) supporting open standards and ODF
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the entire world is currently crashing down on Norway for rewarding the Nobels Peace price to Barack Obama. http://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/article2731984.ece (just scroll down and watch john stewart)
i am a Norwegian, or norgie, and i have spoken to a lot of fellow Norwegians and NONE of us understands why they gave the Nobels Peace price to Barack Obama. we are all just as confused as every one else.
and honestly just to john stewart, dont harras an entire population for a single comissions decision.
i just need this of my chest after viewing that show


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There was a time, not too long ago, when the typewriter and notebook ruled, and the computer as an everyday tool was simply a vision. Revolution in the Valley traces this vision back to its earliest roots: the hallways and backrooms of Apple, where the groundbreaking Macintosh computer was born. The book traces the development of the Macintosh, from its inception as an underground skunkworks project in 1979 to its triumphant introduction in 1984 and beyond.
The stories in Revolution in the Valley come on extremely good authority. That's because author Andy Hertzfeld was a core member of the team that built the Macintosh system software, and a key creator of the Mac's radically new user interface software. One of the chosen few who worked with the mercurial Steve Jobs, you might call him the ultimate insider.
When Revolution in the Valley begins, Hertzfeld is working on Apple's first attempt at a low-cost, consumer-oriented computer: the Apple II. He sees that Steve Jobs is luring some of the company's most brilliant innovators to work on a tiny research effort the Macintosh. Hertzfeld manages to make his way onto the Macintosh research team, and the rest is history.
Through lavish illustrations, period photos, and Hertzfeld's vivid first-hand accounts, Revolution in the Valley reveals what it was like to be there at the birth of the personal computer revolution. The story comes to life through the book's portrait of the talented and often eccentric characters who made up the Macintosh team. Now, over 20 years later, millions of people are benefiting from the technical achievements of this determined and brilliant group of people.
Andy Hertzfeld was a graduate student in computer science at UC Berkeley in January 1978 when he purchased one of the first Apple IIs.He quickly lost interest in grad school as he began writing programs for his Apple II, eventually leading him to join Apple Computer as a systems programmer in August 1979. He joined the Macintosh team in February 1981, and became one of the main authors of the Macintosh system software, including the User Interface Toolbox and many of the original desk accessories. He left Apple in March 1984, and went on to co-found three companies: Radius (1986), General Magic (1990) and Eazel (1999). In 2003, he developed web-based software for collective storytelling that he used to write the stories in this book. In 2005, he joined Google, and was one of the main creators of Google+.
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How the Mac came true
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Revolution in the valley is a great book. A kind of time machine that will transport you back in the early 80s to participate in the creation of the original Macintosh from the inside.It's made out of anecdotes and stories extracted from the folklore blog chronologically ordered. If you're a bit of a geek interested in the dark ages where smartphones, the internet or the simple idea of a graphical user interface were still almost considered science fiction, then this book is for you.You can think of it as a computer science history book but fun to read. You'll have the chance to glance over the shoulders of the Macintosh developers team and live the Macintosh revolution from its inception until it's famous launch in 1984.The interesting thing is that for once it's not a book focused on Steve Jobs but rather the story of the people who made his vision come true. Also don't expect a full story of Apple, the bulk of the book is really focus on the 1979-1985 period.In the end I really enjoyed reading the book and would definitely recommend it. Even though it's probably a "niche" book it is a piece of history unveiled.
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The Making of Mac.
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Revolution in the Valley is the story of that first Apple development team that brought the world the Macintosh and in doing so changed computing history by making the computer a personal item focused on communication rather than computation.Popular mythology portrays the development of the original Macintosh as a somewhat religious experience. In fact, that was not really the case. As with any large scale project there are problem, conflicts, and unforeseen bugs that raise both costs and tempers. Revolution in the Valley gives the reader what a more accurate account of the not only the development culture at Apple during its early days but also how large scale projects work in the really world when real people who don't necessarily agree on the best ways to implement feature X.As this is not a technical training or reference, there are really no prerequisites to reading but that does not mean that more experienced developers or even designers won't get a lot out of the book; in fact, I always find it interesting to see how those early developers of the personal computer 1980's solved complex technical issues with such limited hardware and software resources; after all there was no Github or BitBucket when the Macintosh was being developed.In short, I would recommend this to anyone who works on or will be working on larger scale software projects.
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Very esoteric one
By Michal Konrad Owsiak
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This book is not for everyone. Definitely. Why? Because it is very esoteric. Andy and his colleagues describe what was happening behind the scene when Macintosh has been built. It is really deductive to read this kind of stories, however, sometimes you might end up with the feeling that you weren't taught much. This is the case here. I admit, some stories are really interesting, but they are simply the memories. Some of them are so esoteric and focus on matters so much context dependent that you won't be able to feel exactly the same way authors did.What is worth in here is that every idea, everything that is innovative has an army of people behind it. It is not as simple as saying "I made it.". There are always people who are left behind by the management, who are sitting in the second row while in fact they are real creators of the "thing".I must admit that some chapters really caught me - especially one, titled "Too Big for My Britches". At some point, it shows the role of the tension between managers and developers within the team. You will find it everywhere, in every company. When managers starts to take over, regular developers are left behind, they start to disappear in a cog machine.In my opinion, this book is only for Mac lovers who would like to take a look at the backstage of Macintosh development.
Iconic and Authentic
By shawnday
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Iconic and authentic. I remember being mildly amused by the first incarnation of Andy Hertzfeld's collection of anecdotes when it was first published. Revolution in the Valley was an intriguing and engaging set of reminiscences by many of those involved in making the Macintosh a reality collected from folklore.org. Newly re-released in 2011 here I find myself re-reading the stories and enjoying them even more.This is a very unique volume. The anecdotes are short snippets written over the past decade and contributed to the folklore blog. This books brings them together and groups them into five seemingly logical segments of the development of the Macintosh and sprinkles in some great images - including Andy's own notes and sxcribbles from the period.The result is a poignantly authentic telling of the Macintosh development story from a variety of perspectives. It is not meant to be comprehensive or unbiased, merely reflective. It is almost Tolstoyan in delivery. You can walk away for a time and just jump back in and easily pick up where you left off. There are multiple intersecting plots and things just come together naturally. You don't want to put it down though and I must say that I just wanted to read and read and read some more. It's totally engrossing. Like many who will read the book I remember the early days and how I originally dismissed this toy of a machine, but one that went on to change my own life. This book takes you back to a different time (as Andy reflects himself in the afterword to the new edition) before so many recent Apple triumphs. Everything was so new and exciting in the early 80's and the introduction of the graphical user interface on the Lisa and then Mac was a true revolution that goes on.This is the book of tales from the inside. I think it's all the more engaging for those who were there for the revolution and would be very interested to hear the perspective of those not there and who take what was so revolutionary for granted.I read this as an ebook which seems somewhat odd, as the original conception of the book was to take the online version and put it into a particularly attractive and quality print edition and here it is coming full circle and being reassembled in an electronic format. Its really rather deserving of the print edition and I made a point of reading it on the iPad with full colour PDF rather than on the Sony eBook reader where this would be lost...but I did imagine myself reading the book and feeling the paper. I would highly recommend this for any and all and ebook or print volume this is a great collection. Taking it from content oriented folklore blog and creatively presenting it embellishes the collection and is well worth the investment.
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Revolution in The ValleyThe Insanely Great Story of How the Mac Was MadeBy Andy HertzfeldReviewed by Brian M Oldham, for the East Bay Macintosh User Group(ebmug.org)"Revolution in The Valley" is an entertaining history of the Macintosh. Andy Hertzfeld has collected stories from and about the original Macintosh team (which he was a member of). Most of the stories are brief, and told in a friendly and engaging manner.I've read many biographies of Apple. Most are written by people that were not involved in the events, and most also ignore to a great extent the machines and the engineers that created them, instead focusing on Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. There is some of both Steves in "Revolution in The Valley," but the focus of the book is the Macintosh and the people that directly gave it life, as told by these everyday heroes, the Mac's collective parents.I have rarely been so drawn into a book. The first time I read it, I went through it much faster than I normally read, and I continue to pull it down from the shelf, and revisit the stories."Revolution in The Valley" receives and EBMUG rating of Five Bridges out offive.
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By Uncle Dave
This is a really interesting book for those of us who were around and aware at the Mac's inception, and especially those of us who developed Mac applications usng the toolbox. It was fun to recall products like Alice, Amaze, ThunderScan, and the Calculator Construction Set. It is a relief to have survived the tight memory constraints, the concerns about pre-flights, and hoping all our code really was 32-bit clean. I can't believe we were programming the details of event loops and event handling.The thinking and discoveries during the development are fascinating. The Mac was so radical that, even though it took five years to come to life, it was still the most advanced personal computer of its time.I really like seeing the notes people kept at the time.My only reservation about the content is that most of the anecdotes that still appear humorous to Andy are flat in the reading; you had to be there, I suppose.And my only complaint about the book is that the binding is very poor for a hardback, with pages loosening up as you read.But if you were "there" in '84, get this book.
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