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Integrate[], Sort[] and Hold[]
I am having trouble integrating a function which contains Sort[]. Here is a
stripped down (if slightly odd) example:
In = Integrate[Sort[{2, 3}^a], {a, -1, 1}]
Out = {3/Log[4], 8/Log[27]}
Mathematica is evaluating this as follows. First, Sort[{2, 3}^a] is
evaluated as {2^a, 3^a}. Then Integrate[2^a, {a, -1, 1}] gives the first
term 3/Log[4]. Finally Integrate[3^a, {a, -1, 1}] gives the second term
8/Log[27]. Note here that Sort[] is sorting 2^a and 3^a without knowing the
value of a. That is, sort is sorting the raw symbolic expressions.
I would prefer Sort[] to wait until it knows the value of a before sorting.
For example, when a is -1, then 2^a = 1/2 and 3^a = 1/3, so Sort[{2, 3}^a]
would be {1/3, 1/2}. However when a is 1, then 2^a = 2 and 3^a = 3, so
Sort[{2, 3}^a] would be {2, 3}. That is, in the first case the terms are
swapped, but in the second case they are not. So what I'm after is
In = Integrate[Sort[{2, 3}^a], {a, -1, 1}]
Out = {2/Log[3] + 1/Log[4], 1/Log[2] + 2/Log[27]}
(* This does not actually happen *)
[If you prefer to picture this, Plot[{2^a, 3^a}, {a, -1, 1}] draws two
increasing lines that cross at a = 0. Mathematica is integrating under each
curve. I'm trying to integrate under the line made from the two lower
segments, and under the line made from the two upper segments.]
I've tried using Hold[], ReleaseHold[], and Evaluate[] but have got myself
into a terrible mess. Obviously with this trivial example I could just split
the integral up myself, but is there a way to achieve delaying Sort[] until
a is known? I would be very grateful for any comments.


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- 3 cups hearts of romaine salad mix
- 2 medium nectarines, chopped
- 2 cups julienned fully cooked ham
- 1 tablespoon minced fresh cilantro
- 1/2 cup Caesar salad croutons
- 1/4 cup shredded Parmesan cheese
- 1/3 cup mayonnaise
- 2 tablespoons sour cream
- 4 teaspoons chopped onion
- 4 teaspoons half-and-half cream
- 1 teaspoon lemon juice
- 1/4 teaspoon minced garlic
- 1/8 teaspoon dried basil
- 1/8 teaspoon dried oregano
- Dash pepper
- In a serving bowl, combine the salad mix, nectarines, ham, cilantro, croutons and cheese. In a small bowl, whisk the dressing ingredients; drizzle over salad. Yield: 4 servings.
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After years of swiping scenes from the leading men in such movies as KNOCKED UP and THE 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN, Paul Rudd finally headlines a star vehicle of his own. Unlike those Judd Apatow productions, it's John Hamburg (ALONG CAME POLLY) who directs I LOVE YOU, MAN, albeit with many of the touchstones of Apatow's highly successful freaks-and-geeks-with-heart aesthetic. In other words, this is not an Apatow film, but, with the male capacity for--and simultaneous inability to express--fraternal love as its core comic conceit (and emotional centerpiece), it may as well be.
Rudd plays Peter Klaven, a real estate agent with a blossoming career and an imminent marriage to Zooey (THE OFFICE's Rashida Jones)--basically, he's lucky in all things except male bonding. The narrative arc centers on his quest for platonic man-love--as opposed to, say, finding the girl of his dreams--and follows the boilerplate dictates of a standard rom-com with a subversive wink. In this case, boy meets boy, boys bond over their common love of Rush and Andre the Giant, boys break up and make up, etc. Rudd and co-star Jason Segel (FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL), a fellow Apatow alum who plays Sydney Fife, the Type B object of Klaven's affection, imbue their roles with winning charisma and elevate the plot with real and nuanced chemistry. With a whip-smart pace, the film continually tills fresh comic ground as Hamburg finds punctuation points in every scene and never lets a gag overstay its welcome. While the supporting cast features many memorable turns by the likes of Jon Favreau, Jaime Pressly, and Andy Samberg, I LOVE YOU, MAN ultimately belongs to Rudd, who approaches insecurity and social awkwardness with the same dead-eye marksmanship that Peter Sellers did for slapstick.
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Jason Segel, Jaime Pressly, Andy Samberg, J.K. Simmons, Jonathan Kimble Simmons, Rashida Jones, Jon Favreau, John Favreau, Jane Curtin, Paul Rudd, Lou Ferrigno
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"The slight Rudd and the gangly Segel strike the right physical contrast for comedy....It's a rare comedy that actually grows funnier on reflection. It benefits enormously from the talents of the two stars."
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"The movie works because everything hinges on the camaraderie and undeniable chemistry between Rudd and Segel....I LOVE YOU, MAN's light-hearted exploration of male bonding provides substantial fodder for humor, heightened by the inspired casting of two of the industry's most appealing comic actors."
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"Rudd has long been the nice guy/straight man character in comedies like this and he delivers that again with some added sweetness since this time around his posse is a bunch of gal pals."
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"Paul Rudd gives a startlingly funny and original performance as a nice guy with serious dweebish tendencies, and the delight of what Rudd does here comes down to how exquisitely embarrassing he is to watch....I LOVE YOU, MAN is on the side of all things rude, raunchy, and guyish..." -- Grade: A
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"After delivering scene-stealing turns in THE 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN and KNOCKED UP, Rudd claims the much-deserved spotlight in I LOVE YOU, MAN, which in its own endearing way tweaks the very same male-bonding pieties that those movies made a fortune celebrating."
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3.5 stars out of 4 -- "Jason Segel plays Sydney as a man thoroughly comfortable in his own skin, an unapologetic hedonist who uses his intelligence as a comic weapon....I LOVE YOU, MAN is, above all, just plain funny....You feel good watching the movie."
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The Wall Street Journal: Where Calling Rush Limbaugh Constitutes Staying "Behind The Scenes"
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Reporting that Speaker John Boehner was "facing a rebellion among conservative Republicans" over his proposal to avoid default, the Wall Street Journal had an interesting take on Boehner's very public effort to cajole media conservatives into backing his plan:
Mr. Boehner (R., Ohio) stayed largely behind the scenes Tuesday, though he made a pitch for his plan after a GOP meeting.
This image of Boehner working tirelessly behind the scenes to avoid a default crisis is pure conservative fantasy.
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Total proctocolectomy with ileostomy surgery is done when other medical treatment does not help problems with your large intestine.
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Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
Today started off pretty rotten with it raining and our tarp springing a couple leaks, but we made a drip edge out of some tape on the upper portion of the hull so that if anything leaked down from the toe rail it would drop off the tape before running onto the bottom of the hull.
I used the Interlux water barrier...
INTERLUX InterProtect® 2000E Barrier Coat System at West Marine
I was assuming that I would be able to get two coats out of the gallon sized kit, and since it is a two part system, I needed to measure out the part one in half. The Part one is 3 quarts and Part two is 1 quart. 3 quarts = 96 Fl Oz and half of that is 48 Fl Oz so I used a 16 OZ Red Solo Cup and filled it up three times and scraped out as much as I could from the cup, then filled a second solo cup with Part two and mixed them together. Rolled on the first coat, messed around in the shop, and got some lunch, then rolled on the second coat. I painted a good 6" or so above the water line just to make sure the hull would be sealed nicely and I used up all of the gallon kit. I will need to buy a quart sized kit to finished where the boat stands are.
These pictures are right after I finished so you can still see some roller marks etc...
When I was at West Marine I looked at their roller cover chart and it said the only type of roller to use with the epoxy paint was the expensive foam rollers so i bought two of them. Well they did not hold up for even a single coat and started to break apart and leave foam chunks in the paint. Next time I go back there I am going to ask for my money back...
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
I don't see the long 2x4s you mentioned tying the stands together and that is the main concern I have with what you have. You really need to have an X support front to back. I'd really rather see it on the horizontal supports as well rather than just the osb supports but they look reasonably wide enough.
Anyway, best case for the keel is to sandblast it. There are portable guys that can do it relatively cheap. Something like por-15 or any good epoxy should keep the keel protected. The keel is not lead BTW but steel, so you could also try some of the rust converters as well. There are rust eliminators that work really well but you have to keep the metal saturated. The keel doesn't really look too bad but the absolute best is to drop it while you have the chance and do it right. Keel bolt probably could use looking at as well.
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
You wouldn't catch me under there. Why a 4x4 when a 2x10 would be considerably stronger? Or doubled 2x10's. I'd also be concerned about the ply supports at the base of your supports. I'd much rather see forward and aft movement controlled by at least a half sheet of ply running from the front support to the back support and secured with lag screws.
But...to each his own.
|Zac Penn
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
I appreciate the warnings and believe me I have too much to loose to work under something that is unstable. As I have said before it is ROCK SOLID and does not have any play. The kickers are holding just fine, the OSB is not deforming.
My dad and I spent five hours today under there with an orbital sander removing the old bottom paint and scratched up the hull paint. Here are some action shots of the old man working it...
This is what it used to look like...
And what we brought it back down to...
It looks like we got all the way to the old gel coat and roughed it up real nice. There were a couple spots were the gelcoat was cracking so we cut them out and sanded the area real well. We are going to use Bondo Fiberglass Resin Jelly to fill the holes then sand them smooth. That is as far as we know what to do so far. This is where you guys can really help us.
West Marine is the only marine store around that i know of and when we went there yesterday we talked to someone and he recommended the following products...
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We want to hold onto this boat for at least a couple years and we will be leaving it in the water for hopefully 2 years before having to remove it and recoat the bottom. I want to go with black for the bottom paint and a high gloss white for the hull. Can you please provide me with your recommendations for painting supplies and whether or not primers are really necessary. It looks to me as though the hull has not been painted for a VERY long time because I kept sanding and sanding and the color nor consistency never changed so I figure it was the gelcoat?
I almost forgot...
What is the best prep I can do for the keel? As you can see the rust is coming through the old paint, and sanding it is not going to work do to the deep pits in the lead. I could wire wheel it, but was hoping the bottom paint would stick to it without too much prep work???? Please let me know if I need to get off the pipe hahaha
So sum it up lets please bring the conversation around to painting supplies and not about the boat stands :lol:
Thanks again for your help,
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
I dunno, looks like it'll work fine, the whole thing looks like it's leaning in the pictures (I know it isn't)...
Fortunately it's a relatively light boat.
|Zac Penn
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
After negotiating a forklift around the trailer tire, and using two high lifts on the other side we were able to raise the boat/trailer high enough to get the stands under them.
Once the boat was lowered onto the stands I checked the amount of deflection at the center on each stand and it was 1" at the bow and 1/2" at the stern. I kept the trailer 1" below the boat for about 30 minutes to see if it would sag any further. I also shook the boat like crazy to see if the stands would give. It was ROCK solid!!!!! I used ratchet straps on the toe rail to secure the boat to the stands and keep it from rocking side to side. I am going to get two more straps just for safety.
Even though the deflection looked reasonable for me I still wanted to place vertical post in the center to help carry the load. It raised the bow 1/2" and stern 1/4" to keep it nice and loaded.
I am going to get some long 2x4's and brace the two stands together and sure it up a little more. Either way it worked great, and I am happy.
PS. The pictures make things look much more deformed than they really are. I paid very close attention to everything and made sure it was safe.
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
How long are you planning to have your boat supported by these stands? I would suggest as short a time as possible. Your 2x4 kicker really isn't going to do much, all the weight of the boat will be relying on the nails to hold it up, which is now in a shear situation. I would really reconsider beefing this up a lot more, especially if you plan on working around or under the boat...
|Zac Penn
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
There is a 2x4 kicker under the 4x4 horizontal beam. The trailer is 94" wide so I didn't want the 4x4's on top of the posts because it would have made the inside width 89" wide so I couldn't get the trailer out. Also with the triangular plywood attached to the bottom 2x4 should control any twist. We will see how things go. I couldn't work on it today but will jack it up tomorrow.
Re: Starting my Chrysler 22 Painting Project...Advice welcomed!
Your stands have a flaw, the horizontal 4x4 post should rest on top of the vertical posts so that the load is transferred onto the vertical post. The way you have it in your pictures, it looks like the only thing holding the weight of the boat is the plywood supports... I would also not use the 2x4's for the base of the stands. Any twist and that 2x4 will snap under load. Your close, just needs a little tweaking. I would also add some plywood supports to your bow support. It doesn't take much to knock apart nailed 2x4's. I'll be following this thread closely, I'm restoring a starwind 22(same hull as your chrysler).
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I am not quite sure of what you mean by having the 2x4's on top of the 4x4's?
I will be bracing the two stands to each other so hopefully the lateral loads will not be an issue.
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|Actually, the car is harvest gold from the factory. A very piece. Only 700 1955 corvettes were built, and a very small number of those were harvest gold, and this car has some more options shrinking the production run. Internet rumors put the number of factory, harvest gold 55's known to exist in the low teens....I really don't know, but a quick google search does seem to support the owner's claims.
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In arguably the recruiting event of the summer, Under Armour Underclass pool play got underway on Friday at noon and ended after the 4:00 games, and will pick up bright and early on Saturday morning, continuing through Sunday afternoon.
All but two teams played one game - Baltimore (2-0) and Upstate N.Y. (1-1) played twice and will thus get some essential rest, picking back up at noon. In case you haven't read our preview of the Under Armour underclass games from Wednesday, do so now.
A large crew of IL scribes - Geoff Shannon, Casey Vock, Caroline Darney, Danielle Bernstein (of @ILWomen fame) and myself - were on hand for Friday's games and will have reports coming in all weekend. In our first installment on UA this weekend, I take a look at New England's OT win over Long Island and Baltimore's victory over West, as well as observations on South-Upstate from our man Casey Vock.
Baltimore 4-0 Long Island 0-3 New England 2-1 Midwest 0-3 West 2-1
Top 2 Semifinalists Baltimore Sunday's winner New England/West
New Jersey 0-3 Philadelphia 3-0 South 0-3 Upstate New York 2-2 Washington D.C. 3-0
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New England vs. Long Island
In what looked to be perhaps the game of the day, Long Island and New England backed up that talk and went to overtime, with NE's Tyler Kellogg (Trinity-Pawling '15/Virginia) ripping a high beauty to give his squad the 9-8 victory.
For New England, there were a bunch of standouts, especially on the offensive end. I came away particularly impressed with the play of Ryder Garnsey (Brewster Academy '14/PG/Notre Dame) and Joe Manown (La Salle Academy '15/Duke) at attack. Garnsey, a slick lefty, had two goals including an excellent tally with 15 seconds left in the half in which he found the net with defensemen draped all over him to send the game into a 3-3 tie. Manown, a Rhode Island native, is a quick type at X and showcased stellar hands on the day, contributing a hat trick. Liked his ability to beat his man with a split dodge or a fancier move at GLE but also stick the outside shot at times. At midfield, Brian Smyth (Westminster School '16) was formidable at the face-off X but impressed making some big plays that may appear little (stops on D, GB's, plays on the sidelines) but in an overtime game, look very good especially during opportune times. Conor Kelly (Avon Old Farms '14/Maryland) is a big offensive threat when dodging the alleys and looked to be a player his teammates wanted to defer to in crunch time. Defensively, goalies Tyler Blaisdell (Thayer Academy '14/Princeton) and Josh Miller (Brien McMahon '15/Towson) were both superb in cage. Size is not on their side but they are quick-handed, talk well, make huge stops inside and clear deftly.
Though they dropped their first game, Long Island is exploding with talent and possess the talent to make a serious run for their first title since 2010. With arguably the two best rising junior FOGO's in the nation in Austin Henningsen (Northport '15/Maryland) and James Sullivan (Garden City '15/undecided), they will almost always win the possession battle and will therefore be right in the thick of things. Attackmen Patrick McCormick (Hicksville '14/UNC) and Ryan Keenan (Smithtown West '14/Penn State) were LI's offensive standouts on Friday. Keenan showcased impeccable vision, racking up an assist or two and a would-be helper when posted up top, an absolute money feed towards the crease that should have been finished. He looks like he's put on a bit more weight than last year and still dazzles with his IQ. McCormick was a go-to scorer, showing the ability to finish with craftiness inside and move well off-ball. He's a player whose stock is rising again - I'm sure the Tar Heels' coaching staff is excited to get him on campus in a year. Also liked the play of rising junior attackman Alex Concannon (Syosset '15/Hopkins), who I'm sure we'll talk about more in forthcoming reports. Defensively, LSM Tommy Wright (Garden City '15/Penn State) was an absolute beast in between the lines but also around the crease when needed. He's got a lanky figure but uses his stick really well and stripped the opponent rather regularly, also using a great trail check. Carried upfield and pushed transition after coming up with a big ground ball. Without a doubt one of the better longpoles in the class. A few more LI players who impressed were defenseman Nick Capuana (Massapequa '14/Towson) and middie Christian Zawadzki (Smithtown West '14/Maryland).
With it being the end of the day (plus I had two IL staffers at my side), I took less notes on this game but still came away with a few quick observations.
Charm City's tandem of Shack Stanwick (Boys' Latin '14/Hopkins) and Mikey Wynne (St. Paul's '14/Cornell) connected as well as I figured they would. Stanwick is, of course, an excellent facilitator and has vision beyond his years, finding Wynne on the doorstep in several situations. The nation's No. 1 recruit had at least three assists to Wynne and will assuredly have plenty more throughout the weekend. Repping the MD public schools, Jason Ashwood (Hereford '14/High Point) had a five-goal outing according to my notes and scored them in a variety of ways. He could take contact well when dodging from behind but also bury the outside shot. Coming off of a six-goal performance in his team's win earlier in the day, Brinton Valis (McDonogh '14/Hopkins) had another solid day, as did BLC Crabs teammate Will McBride (Gilman '14/UNC). Returning defenseman Alex Hurdle (McDonogh '14/Notre Dame) is the heart and soul of the D, communicating better than anybody on the field, putting his body in front of shots and clearing well.
As always, the West has super talented athletes that will be expected to have them in every game. Riding the wave of a great season individually, Joe Lang (St. Ignatius Prep '14/Harvard) had a handful of nice goals, showcasing a nose for the goal. He moves well around the cage but also does a good job riding. Midfielders Colin MacIlvennie (Eastside Catholic '14/Maryland) contributed plenty to the unofficial stat sheet and shoots a heavy ball with both hands. He flat out knows how to get to the rack, an area in which Jake Seau (Bishop's School '14/Duke) also demonstrated skill. Seau appeared more confident than last year, using sheer athleticism and a burst of speed to create separation from his defender. In terms of longpoles, Cade van Raaphorst (Desert Vista '15/Duke) was impressive, gobbling up GB's and sending the ball to the West's offensive stalwarts but also marking his guy effectively. Alex Larson (Chapparal '14/Rutgers) made some eye-popping saves and consistently found the open man in the clearing game.
One of a few good games on the afternoon, this turned out to be yet another overtime contest, with Upstate coming away victorious, 13-12. But the talented South team put on a tremendous showing as they battled back from a 5-1 deficit and took a 6-5 lead just before half. The South would extend that lead to 7-5 before Upstate would go on a five-goal run to take control of the game. The South was able to tie the game again just before the end of regulation as Tim Gehlbach (Lake Brantley '14/North Carolina) scored on an overhand shot coming down the alley, his third of the game, and his second by way of powering down a lane and showing excellent overhand shooting form.
In overtime, it was Upstate's Trevor Hodgins (Churchville-Chili '14/Ohio State) who netted the game-winner (his third goal of the game), as he drove to his right from X after a restart on the backline, got inside his man and flung a shot to the far side post to win it for Upstate.
But to get there, Upstate needed an impressive performance in the cage from Willie Klan (Webster Schroeder '15/Ohio State). Klan was tremendous, getting the start and making at least 8 saves in the first half, according to my count. Klan has very quick hands and sees the ball as well as any goaltender I've seen at the high school level. The shots the South were able to land on him were all quality opportunities. Klan's reflexes are highly impressive and he was on fire against the South, which had had a significant advantage at the face-off battle thanks to Max Parker (Lake Highland Prep '14/Syracuse). Parker's a strong, stocky kid who really can muscle his way to wins. The Upstate LSM crew helped Upstate win a few possessions throughout the game, and Parker did jump a couple of times, but he was very solid here overall, along with Marco Amalfitano (Starr's Mill '14/Mercer), who also scored a goal from close range that put the South up 6-5 heading into the half.
In its earlier loss to Washington D.C., Upstate seemed to struggle with initiation from the attack position, resulting in Hodgins (usually a midfielder), running on the line with Mike D'Amario (Niskayuna '14/Virginia), who made a few nice plays throughout the game (finished with 1 and 1). Even Western New York All-American Adam DiMillo (Bishop Timon '14/Maryland) took a few runs at attack. Finishing wasn't a problem, as DiMillo's teammate and fellow All-American Connor Fields (Bishop Timon '14/Albany) displayed the scoring abilities that led to him setting a new state single-season goals record this past spring with 129. Fields scored three times against the South. The first came as he drove from left to right, switching to his right and popping a high shot over the South goalie. He scored the next goal for Upstate on a ridiculous catch and behind-the-back finish as he snuck across the crease. Later, he would give Upstate a 10-7 lead as he picked up a loose ball near the cage and quickly faked and finished.
The Upstate attack got a nice boost when Ben Reeves (Palmyra Macedon '14/Hobart) was inserted into the lineup in the second half. A lefty who played from the wing, Reeves quickly showed himself to be the best quarterback option for this team. In a matter of a few possessions, Reeves had amassed a goal and an assist and you could see his ability to carry and feed well. Though he's got a slim frame, he had no problem taking his defender to the rack the second time he touched the ball and finished easily.
While the Upstate attack seemed to be figuring itself out throughout the game, the midfield was solid, though many of the players had to play a lot of defense as a result of a large number of turnovers on offense (something that will hurt this team's chances this weekend). Players like Brad McKinney (Watertown '14/Syracuse), Pat Carlin (Vestal '14/Syracuse) and Brian Wall (Penfield '14/uncommitted) all had nice showings. Defenders Nick Mellen (West Genesee '15) and Nick Panara (Pittsford '14/Fairfield) led the way defensively for Upstate.
Connor McMeen (East Coweta '14/Air Force) led the way for the South with a five-goal performance. He showed the ability to catch and finish in close and has a hard shot from outside. He routinely put himself in prime scoring position in off-ball fashion, but also used his good size (about 6-2, 200 pounds) to dodge through the defense. He scored in transition, from inside twice, one as a result of a broken clear and my favorite of his goals came off an old-school face dodge and bounce shot that put the South within one goal late in regulation. The Falcons have a nice recruit on the way here.
A South defensive player that I really enjoyed is Case Carpenter (Highland Park '15/North Carolina), who is about 6-2 and looks like a nice specimen for the Tar Heels. He was very active and showed smarts, throwing solid and effective checks, was in the mix on ground balls and just looks like a promising rising athlete. Another defender I liked on this team is Connor Alexander (Jupiter '14/Duke). He's got range, athleticism and has good feet helping him play solid position defense. He also showed abilities coming up the field. These guys made things tough for the Upstate attack rotation.
South attackman Jake Levine (Saint Andrew's '14/Delaware) showed well-rounded skill, finishing with at least a goal and two helpers according to my stats. A young kid who shows some promise despite being smaller than many of his peers on the field is Jared Bernhardt (Lake Brantley '16), who netted a goal off a broken clear. Though the South roster wasn't as familiar to me as the Upstate roster, it was clear early on in this one that the South is rapidly improving the fundamental aspect of its game. With pure athletes like McMeen, Gehlbach, Carpenter, Alexander and more, this team will turn heads this weekend.
— Casey Vock
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Shopping for a laptop, need advice
So having started the go-kart track, my focus has been so far off of technology for the past few years now that I feel very un-nerdy on the latest technology. In a nutshell, I'm looking for a pretty powerful laptop that would hopefully have decent battery life. Historically, I've waited for a very nice e-coupon code to come around for HP, and customized a nice one. I've had good luck with every HP I've purchased, the last one made it 5 years before the monitor cable broke and I effed it up trying to fix it myself. Anyways, here's what I'd be looking for:
-Something that won't shite itself when I ask it to do some video editing. This is key for me. Right now both my older laptop (still plug it into my TV occasionally) and my new POS cheapy work laptop cry mercy when I throw a few go-pro videos together. I do a lot of video editing for fun, and a TON of photoshop work for work. Sometimes working with big files.
-I'm not sure how much I'd appreciate higher screen resolution? I've never had anything higher than 1366x768. Is it worth it?
-Are the new SSD computers the ones that boot up in seconds? I would prefer that, but also dig my hard drive space since I will come home from a race with 50 gigs of go-pro footage. If what I'm thinking is correct, maybe find a laptop with a 32gb SSD and a 1tb hdd?
-The better the battery life without having an uncomfortable giant battery, the better.
So, I think Lenovo is a decent brand nowadays, yes? Are they worth it over HP? Can anyone explain the difference between the Y and W series? Here's two I've been looking at:
Thanks in advance for your help!
Oh, and budget of $1000-1500
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You aren't gunna get decent space with an SSD in a laptop for <$1500. I'd look for a computer with one of the mini SSD + HDD setups, the SSD usually ranges from 8-64gb to help speed up day to day functioning.
I don't know much about HP or Lenovo and their pros and cons. If you're editing GoPro footage, don't you think it'd be nice to have a 1080p screen?
Lastly, some computer guys will probably roast me for this, but integrated graphics have gotten respectable as of late. The HD 4000 integrated graphics are better than middling laptop graphics cards from a couple years ago.
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You won't get a lappy with both a HDD and an SSD as separate drives. Your best bet is to get a laptop with as much SSD storage as you can afford and an external hard drive for long term storage. Also, a dedicated SSD will give you lots better battery life.
Look into an ultrabook as those are typically high performance and well built.
I've had nothing but good luck with HP computers. My HP business class laptop is now 6 years old and is still going strong with no issues and no failures ever. Granted it was a $3k laptop when new and is built out of magnesium...but still.
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I've got a Lenovo W520 that was $1500 after coupon from rdp330ci (member here on the forum) plus going through a corporate website, total of about 55% off MSRP I think. See what he has to offer.
It's well made, much more so than my previous Acer and better than any other modern Dell/HP I have used. The 1920x1080 screen kicks ass although I usually use a regular monitor plugged in. The keyboard is one of the most popular selling points - it's pretty nice .
Performance wise it doesn't hesitate when doing CAD, video editing on 1080p video or picture editing. I could even play BF3 either 1680x1050 high graphics or 1920x1080 medium/low graphics with 35+ fps but it's not ideal for the most intensive games like that. All this in a small enough 15.6" package. It is somewhat thick and blocky but that doesn't really matter. Also something I find important is that it doesn't get very warm if you aren't doing anything intensive, and stays very quiet. The CPU throttling does a good job of managing it. I've never fully tested battery life, but I could get 6-7 hours without even trying, and that was from a partial charge.
Anyway that's my input. I say go for he W530. I opted for a 500GB HDD with DVD/CD drive but you might look into a 128 or 256 SSD with 1TB HDD in the CD bay.
edit: I should also note that if you're into non-mainstream stuff, something like Sager might be worth looking into. There are other companies that do a similar thing. You basically spec all the parts you want and you can build some seriously powerful laptops, but quality is questionable.
Look at that subtle jet-black coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my God, it even has a 6mt.
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Just like kuksul08 stated. If you want to have the performance of an SSD and the capacity of an HDD, you may need to sacrifice your CD/DVD drive for the extra space to mount a second drive in there. They make adapters and holders for that exact purpose so in terms of reliability, you should be golden.
As far as screen goes, resolution is king and everyone is going to tell you that based on the needs that you established (i.e 50+ GB of HD GoPro footage) so resolution is a must but also for more usable space. Im sure with those needs, you probably have a higher end program to edit the vids so having more menu bars and such along with a large work area is going to be key.
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Lenovo is a very decent computer.. Hate HPs..too many issues with them.. is apple out of your search?
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I've had two HPs. One desktop and one laptop. The desktop was much better but the motherboard died right after the year warranty ended. Lost everything. And then the laptop basically slowed to a halt and now takes like 20 minutes to boot up despite it being near 1k with pretty good specs of the time. Then I got a Mavbook Pro, which I assume you're not looking at, but I love it. Albeit overpriced, I think I'll stick with the Mac. Never had a big issue with it that wasn't my own fault. I do have a problem with the company who makes them, though.
The new ultra books look really nice based off of the commercials. Laptop and tablet in one
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If you need reliability and do video editing, why not get a Macbook Pro?
I had an IBM thinkpad before the lenovo takeover and I loved it. I got a Lenovo after that and it was ATROCIOUS. It had an SSD but didn't perform like one. It also made some high pitched whining noise. The build quality was so bad that the keyboard didn't lay flat. These machines aren't what they once were.
Went with a Macbook Pro 17 in 2009 (chose over a Dell XPS 16) and never looked back. I am still satisfied with my macbook. I changed out the HDD for an SSD, put a scratch HDD in the optibay, and I don't see myself changing computers until this one won't boot.
All of my old PCs died within 3 years, but my Macbook is still going strong. No performance degradation thanks to the SSD/HDD combo.
Yes, the mabook was more expensive initially, but when you factor in the extra years you will get out of it, it's worth it. Apple also takes care of you if you are under warranty. Try that with Lenovo...there is no store to walk into, and you will likely deal with their Indian call center (I have nothing against Indian call centers, but Lenovo's sucks). I returned the Lenovo and it took over 100 calls and 6 months to get my money back.
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I Just got the Asus N56VZ. Great for entertainment stuff. Resolution is 1900x1080 750gb hd, 8 gb ram, intel i7, 4 3.0 usb ports, pretty thin etc. So far I'm loving it. Easier on the pockets than a macbook for pretty much the same thing if not better. Just reformat the hd right when you get it so the 750 gb or whatever you chose is in the same drive.
This is the exact one I bought.
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imo, anyone who spends over a k on a laptop is crazy, they are throw away items, heat eventually kills them
on a desk with proper cooling i could see
i used to build desks , now, i draw the line at $500 for a lap
i have an hp, with no issues
i do like alienwares, but just can't see the price
i think the opinion of computers is tainted beyond belief, most people don't know how to take care of em, or fix em
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And Ultrabooks are not primarily focused on high performance.
I am mostly talking about Mac laptops because that's where the majority of my experience lies.
Out of three PC laptops the longest lasting one made it four years.
I think the new metal laptops (at least the Macs) are way more durable. Powerbooks and the new Unibody Macbooks could easily go 10 years or more- way past their obsoletion dates.
I think the problem is that some PC makers put in what practically amount to desktop processors and GPUs in a laptop, skimp on the build quality to maximize the specs, and then those laptops burn out quickly.
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Sooooooo basically what I'm hearing is that opinions about laptops are about as diverse as they get, lol. I've had very good luck with my HP's, both lasted at least 5 years, and for me that's fine because by that time I would want new technology anyways.
The reviews I read on Lenovo tend to be pretty stout, so that's why I was considering them.
Aside from that, going to a Mac scares me because I know windows so well. Video editing is a fun thing for me, so it's not a primary huge concern. I do enough of it, but it's nothing majorly technical. I just got really frustrated when I tried to make a half hour long video of my 24-hour go kart race out of a bunch of little clips and it ate every machine I owned for lunch. What I do take seriously is Photoshop because I work in large formats sometimes, and it pisses me off at work when I'm trying to design a banner or something and I have to wait a minute for each little thing I click, haha. For Photoshop, I really don't see the benefit of going to a Mac because it's the same damn program.
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Alienware used to be sorta cool, but its just a Dell now. The ones I have used feel cheap and are overpriced.
I too considered the MBP for quite a while since the quality is hands down awesome, but they are not worth the price. Sure, the aluminum case is nice, but then the initial awe wears off and you're left with an awesome case with the same or lower level parts inside that you can get in a PC, and you paid more for them. The ThinkPads (not all Lenovos, the other models are cheap feeling) have a magnesium frame and billet hinges. Its very solid feeling.
Now here's another option you may not have considered... Get a simple 12 or 14" laptop that you can carry around with you and then dock it at your desk where you will do the majority of your work. You can use an eGPU to do graphics processing/gaming and plug into a large monitor. It's a bit of a compromise, but saves you the hassle of dealing with two machines a laptop and desktop, different files, etc (unless you have a network server). That's just my opinion. That depends on how much you want to carry it around.
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Buy something with above average build quality- like maybe a Lenovo.
Also the MBP hardware is top-class even if you run Windows, which they can easily accommodate. Whether or not the hardware quality is worth the price is totally up to you.
My MBP is abused and has been incredibly bulletproof.
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MacBook Pro or go home. I used both Dell and HP laptops for years before I got my first MacBook. The Dell was a nightmare and the HP was marginally better. I purchased my latest MacBook pro in April of 2010 and I still have AppleCare remaining. I spent close to $3k and I don't regret it one bit. I love this computer. The build quality trumps anything else on the market and almost 3 years later, mine is going strong. Not to mention if I ever experience any issues, I can take it straight to the Apple store for help in any major mall near me. Can't beat that. The anodized aluminum unibody design is incredible.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I paid $3k for my MBP in 2010 and the going price for my model is still $1200 or so. No other computer manufacturer can match that.
What it comes down to for me is very simple. I use this device almost every single day of my life. Why wouldn't I want it to be the best available?
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4 ram slots, and you can add a PCI Express Mini Hard drive and install the OS on that if you are savvy.
(I have never tried one though, and the specs aren't as good, but I am sure some better stuff will be coming out eventually)
The consumer grade Dell laptops are not that good (Inspiron), but the Optiplex and Precisions (and some XPS) laptops are built really well as they are designed for business travelers who transport them constantly.
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I told her a depth/fish finder for the river boat. I need one that will give depth at speed. I just have no idea which one would be the best buy. She can't spend big bucks.
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A very comfortable victory on the pitch at least at Underhill then, reports of ridiculous traffic filled journeys for some meaning it wasn't quite as relaxing off it!
Fortunately I wasn't one of those forced to endure these problems and as a result thoroughly enjoyed our annual stress-free opener to the pre-season fare.
Usually summers containing a big international tournament see the majority of our squad made up of fringe players at this early stage, however on this occasion it was very much a group with a selection of many of our big name stars in both halves.
It may be just coincidence but the fact we limited our hosts to nothing more than a couple of speculative long shots throughout the 90 minutes, it seems the squad's strength came through in a big way on the day.
The first three goals were certainly typical Arsenal free-flowing moves but other than those we've all seen many times before the biggest interest was naturally in our two summer signings.
Playing a half each, both gave early indications of what is to come and looked well capable in the red and white.
Sunshine, a chance to meet the usual faces, total relaxation and goals to boot... I make that a perfect start.
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We spoke to Theo Walcott and asked him what he would take from his team-mates. Find out what the England international had to say below...
Haha! I would keep my own looks. But if I had to, you want me to say? If I had to, it would have to be Thomas Vermaelen.
Well it's not going to be Alex Song is it?! I think that will be Gibbo again as he's got style I quite like. Yeah,
Gibbo [Kieran Gibbs]...
I think I would probably swap with Thomas again.
I have got to keep myself there haven't I!
Nope, no-one has a nicer car than me!
I love my house, I wouldn't swap my house for anything.
There are some rascal haircuts at this Club! But I'll take Gibbo's, as his never grows.
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Big Bass Keep Anglers Guessing
ATHENS, Texas — Should you find yourself with the biggest bass you've ever seen on the end of your line, do you know who to call?
David Campbell, manager of Texas Parks and Wildlife Department's Budweiser ShareLunker program, hopes you will call him and not a friend with a fillet knife.
Each year from Oct. 1 until April 30, TPWD accepts largemouth bass weighing 13 pounds or more into the ShareLunker program to be used in a selective breeding program aimed at producing bigger bass in Texas.
And almost every year someone catches a huge bass and has no idea how to tell how big it is. Some of the fish go back into the water, but some go under the knife.
Recently that's what happened to a fish from a private lake in Fannin County, which died despite the angler's efforts to keep it alive. The angler guesstimated the fish's weight at 21 pounds—which would have been a new state record—before filleting it.
Campbell looked at the remains and estimated it probably weighed 15 pounds.
"The most important thing to remember is that you can catch a ShareLunker almost any time, anywhere," Campbell says. "Be prepared. Have your livewell ready before you start fishing. The less you handle the fish, and the quicker you get it into a properly aerated livewell at the same temperature as the lake, the less stress you place on the fish."
A live cage approximately 3 feet by 3 feet by 3 feet can be used to hold fish if no livewell is available. Most bait shops will also hold fish for anglers in their minnow tank.
Campbell offer three other tips for making sure big fish survive. "One, visit the ShareLunker pages on the Texas Freshwater Fisheries Center web site and familiarize yourself with the procedures for handling and caring for a big fish until it can be picked up."
"Secondly, carry the ShareLunker hotline numbers with your fishing license, so you will have it when that big fish bites," Campbell adds. To have a ShareLunker picked up, call Campbell at (903) 681-0550 or page him at (888) 784-0600 and leave a message, including area code. Calls are taken 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Every year a number of anglers call Campbell because they've caught the biggest bass they've ever seen, and, like the Fannin County angler, they're sure it weighs more than 13 pounds. Without certified scales to weigh the fish, most anglers guess the fish to be much bigger than it is.
That sometimes results in Campbell driving for hours to pick up a fish only to find out it isn't heavy enough. While handheld scales that can be certified are available, most anglers rely on a public scale to weigh big bass. That leads to Campbell's third tip for preparing for ShareLunker season.
"Go to our Web site and print out the list of certified scale locations and put it in your tackle box," Campbell advises. "If there is not a certified scale listed in your area, you may be able to get your fish weighed at a sporting goods store, marina, grocery store, United Parcel Service shipping point or feed store—any place that must have scales legal for trade."
The Texas Freshwater Fisheries Center in Athens has certified scales and is open to the public from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday and from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. on Sunday.
Most TPWD Inland Fisheries district offices also have a certified scale; you can find the one nearest you at the TPWD Web site.
Campbell points out there is no need to kill a big fish in order to have a trophy to hang on your wall. "In addition to Budweiser ShareLunker clothing, every angler who enters a fish into the program receives a fiberglass replica of their fish made by Lake Fork Taxidermy," Campbell says. "We want you to have your fish and not eat it, too."
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If you are planning on coming to Arkansas to Lease a pit or rent a blind be sure to fully prepare yourself for anything.
Guided Duck Hunts are expensive for a reason.
you will need an ATV DECOYS GUN SHELLS WADERS KNEE BOOTS MOJOS (and know when to use them) JERK STRING DUCK DOG DUCK CALLS (and know how to call a duck)
Now when u get all that remember that you will not call all Ducks you see. You have to be hidden. Don't overcall.Dont undercall. Hope the weather is good for your hunting situation. If u lease a field and it is frozen over ur in trouble. U will have allot of work to do to keep ur" hole open" ! Don't be late to ur blind...10 minutes late can cost u a limit on good days. Ducks and geese are very unpredictable.. u may kill 3 ducks one day and go back to the very same place and limit out the next ! There's and old saying in the duck hunting world.... "Here today, gone tomorrow".
Better kill em when their there and hope u are there when they are!
Noone can predict Duck movement or Mother Nature!
It's not like it is on Duck Dynasty Guys! Go somewhere tgat is known for a "High Concentration of Duck and Goose movement" with the attitude of having a good time first! Killing Ducks and Geese is the "Magic" that happens when all goes well!
It's allot of hard work that's very rewarding "When ur plan comes together"!
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Benazir Bhutto, leader of the Pakistan People's Party(PPP) denounced interference by the Pakistan military intelligence in the political campaign charging they are attempting to intimidate her candidates to drop out of the election for a new parliament in January."This is not your job to indulge in politics," and noted the recent escape of an important terrorist from police custody as the reason the intelligence agency should be focusing on its main job of combating terrorism. Bhutto also made clear she has ended disagreements with a former political opponent, Nawaz Sharif, head of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, and both will work to defeat President Musharraf and restore democracy to Pakistan. Musharraf countered by claiming Bhutto was making up reasons why her party will lose and intends to blame military interference as a justification for her loss in the election.
The conflict goes on with charges and counter charges from all areas of the Pakistan political spectrum. Blame for the lack of trust must lie with President Musharraf who imposed martial law and got rid of the supreme court that refused to go along with his ideas. If the election ends with a Musharraf victory, there will be mass demonstrations in Pakistan and violence in one way or another.


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Montana's Future Farmers of America tour agricultural operations
HAMILTON, Mont. - The state's newest crop of agricultural leaders are touring Western Montana in a school bus.
Future Farmers of America and their advisers are getting highlights from a variety of ag operations.
Montana's leading industry is becoming increasingly diverse.
The Ag Opportunity Tour gives FFA members experience to meet challenges in ever growing markets.
FFA's top leaders got first hand glimpses of a feed mill in Hamilton.
The young farmers come from Richey and Fairfield, Great Falls, Missoula and Dillon.
"Montana across the state," said FFA Foundation executive director, Jaime Edmundson,"we have 87 chapters and 2,600 students."
Many students plan to build careers in the ag industry.
It could be a traditional farm or ranch, computer technology to design new tractors, or in the classroom.
"I'd love to be an agricultural teacher," said FFA member Warren Krone, from Vaughn,"and I really enjoy horses, so I'd like to be a horse trainer as well."
Warren Krone's going to college to double major in ag education and equestrian riding and training.
At Lakeland Feeds, students got tips on ag retail sales, and marketing,
"By 2050," said Jaime Edmundson,"we'll be feeding 9 billion people across the world."
Many of the young men and women at Friday's tour could be doing that feeding.
Students saw a high tech operation at Mu Juice Dairy in Corvallis.
They saw value added with Moo Poo Compost.
Gwynn Simeniuk is already in college, studying agricultural education and animal science.
Born and raised on a ranch, she said, "We are able to utilize different technology to diversify and manage our risks better. We also have to be more aware of consumer demand."
High land prices squeeze young starters out of the market.
Farms and ranches are disappearing under development.
Once they're gone, they're gone.
Farmers and ranchers are getting old, and aren't being replaced.
But nobody's going to quit eating.
"People should realize where their food comes from and be more involved in the ag process,"said Missoula FFA member Austin Standley,"because then people are removed from that and they lose connection and the industry suffers."
Agriculture needs young men like Austin, who also wants to be an agriculture teacher, and especially enjoys raising beef cattle.
On the bus, on their way to a seed potato farm in Twin Bridges and a cattle ranch in Harrison, the FFA kids recalled their purpose.
"FFA members, why are we here? ,"they ask.
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" they recite, "to honor agricultural opportunities and responsibilities and develop those qualities of leadership which an FFA member should possess.


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The International Desalination Association (IDA) has extended the deadline for submitting abstracts for consideration in the technical programme for the 2017 IDA World Congress in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The new deadline is 11:59pm (EDT) next Tuesday, November 15, 2016.
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