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Get thoroughly up to speed on Android programming, and learn how to create up-to-date user experiences for both handsets and tablets. With this book's extensively revised second edition, you'll focus on Android tools and programming essentials, including best practices for using Android 4 APIs. If you're experienced with Java or Objective-C, you'll gain the knowledge necessary for building well-engineered applications.
Programming Android is organized into four parts:
This updated edition of Programming Android focuses on the knowledge and developer priorities that are essential for successful Android development projects.
Zigurd Mednieks is a consultant to leading OEMs, enterprises, and entrepreneurial ventures creating Android-based systems and software. Previously he was Chief Architect at D2 Technologies, a voice-over-IP (VoIP) technology provider. There he lead engineering and product definition work for products that blended communication and social media in purpose-built embedded systems and on the Android platform.
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Laird Dornin is a mobile development architect with extensive experience in Java, Android, J2ME, SavaJe, and the webkit browser library. He was a member of the J2SE development team at Sun Microsystems specializing in java.rmi and Jini technology. Laird is currently a Senior Engineer at a major wireless carrier, where he provides Android architectural guidance and Network API support to members of the carrier's developer community.
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Blake Meike, Senior Software Development Engineer at Amazon, has more than 10 years of experience with Java. He's developed applications using most of the GUI toolkits and several of the Java mobile device platforms.
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With over a decade of software engineering experience, Masumi Nakamura has worked in various positions within the mobile technology arena, from building out mobile infrastructure to founding his own mobile company. He was one of the primary Android developers of the Where Android app and now is Principal Architect for the Big Data and Recommendations Group at Where, Inc. Outside of coding, he spends his time practicing Ba Gua Zhang and caring for his two cats.
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The animal on the cover of Programming Android, Second Edition is a pine grosbeak (Pinicola enucleator). A member of the finch family, these largest of the so-called "winter finches" can be found throughout the coniferous forests of the northern hemisphere: in Alaska, Canada, Scandinavia, and Siberia. More rarely, during the winter some individuals stray as far south as the upper Midwest and New England portions of the United States, and on occasion even into temperate Europe.Adult pine grosbeaks are rather distinctive looking. Both males and females have long forked black tails and black wings with white wing bars. The remainder of a male's plumage is predominantly red, while females display an olive color on the head and rump and gray on the back and underside. Conversely, colors on young pine grosbeaks are noticeably more subdued.Pine grosbeaks feed mostly on vegetable matter, including the buds, seeds, and fruit of various varieties of tree, though they will also eat insects, and in fact prefer to feed such to their young. Interestingly, breeding adults will develop pouches in the floor of its mouth specifically designed to carry this food back to the nest.The cover image is from Johnson's Natural History. The cover font is Adobe ITC Garamond. The text font is Linotype Birka; the heading font is Adobe Myriad Condensed; and the code font is LucasFont's TheSansMonoCondensed.
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Best Android book, even for raw beginner
By castenango
from Boston, MA
About Me Algorithm Math Hacker, Designer, Developer
Comments about oreilly Programming Android, 2nd Edition:
As someone working on her very first Android app (and actually, her very first Java), I find this book a godsend. Although officially "intermediate", one really needs a book like this to feel safe in trying out brand-new code concepts. With a cookbook, one feels one can move fast, but heaven help you if something fouls up--there's no context to help you find your way out. *Programming Android* deals with concepts, not concrete facts. It tells the "why", not just the "what", of each code element -- you will program not by rote, but with understanding. If you have a terror of bugs (like me), the background for What Can Go Wrong (and why), and What Is Suboptimal (and why), appearing throughout, is indispensable. The number of critical Android concepts that are presented, clearly and powerfully, in this text, is too large to enumerate here -- check it out for yourself. You'll see occasionally some concepts from theoretical computer science. Fear not--they're there for a purpose, gently integrated into the discussion, to beef up the context you'll need for making design decisions. Overall, this book does a great job of making the reader comfortable with otherwise-intimidating concepts. The most comfy (and spot-on!) little intro to Java I've ever seen is nested within this book. There are a few weak areas: the Eclipse chapter is more descriptive than how-to, and a beginner will clearly need the Eclipse online documentation (actually, the book is intended to be used in tandem with online "official" documentation e.g. Google's Android docs). There are a few passages that seem a bit like CS insiders talking with CS insiders, but such text is quite far in the minority and won't impede one's progress through the book. My advice: if you've done some coding before but are totally new to Android, get this book, not a cookbook. If you still insist on the cookbook, get this book and use it alongside the cookbook as essential support.
Bottom Line Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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Excellent book
By diginferno
from Bucharest, Romania
About Me Developer
Being an absolute beginner and having to implement a RESTful web service client in a short time frame, I found a very good explanation of the system. I recommend this book to anyone who wants to understand Android from a developer's perspective.
Not bad.
By netskink
from durham, nc
Its not a bad book. Not a great one either. I have the 2011 edition. One thing to note is that chapter 15 is pretty much a word copy of chapter 9 from the Android Application Development book. I believe Android Application Development is out of print.
Bottom Line No, I would not recommend this to a friend
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By wizzarde
from Austria
About Me Developer, Maker
Some weeks ago I started to organize my life with android apps. This book helps me very much to reach my target.
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Excellent Book on Mbile Phone Android P
By sklasing
from Florida
About Me Designer, Developer, Educator
This book is right on target given I am a very experienced developer (33 + years).Initially it addresses critical concepts of transaction layered (multiple threads) where UI is segregated from long running functions. This design is critical for any online system.It then proceeds into classic CRUD database programming etc and from there into actual phone extensions.One area the authors need to better improve is more up to date code examples, several of which I had to spend time debugging to get the provided code to work. It was probably good debugging practice anyway but never the less a great book.
Great Intro+Advanced Android Resource
By harningt
from Fort Wayne, IN
Want to get into Android programming? What better than a book called Programming Android from O'Reilly! :) This is a GREAT resource! The book is well-organized into sections, giving you information on how to setup your environment all the way up to handling more recent topics like NFC.I find that the style of the book works well as a reference to look up roughly how you would do something, like setup NFC P2P or setup some OpenGL graphics, as well as a running tutorial to read through to learn how things work. The book is full of code examples (available online too) and valuable information on how to properly implement your applications (see Chapter 10 - A Framework for a Well-Behaved Application).The author, Zigurd Mednieks, has done a great job in writing a strong book on Android to compliment the vast amount of information available through Google's documentation. I suggest you get this book, especially the eBook form - you can easily search through and find references / copy code-bits.
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Somethings are absent in digital version
By Kempes J.
from Palmeira dos Índios, AL - Brazil
About Me Designer, Developer, Educator, Maker, Sys Admin
Some basic things are absent in digital version:- There is no table of contents (!!)- Some images are absent (until now, I noticed that images 5-10 and 5-11 are not there, just their comments)- Some texts are repeated
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Exactly what I needed
By Corneliu Dascalu
from Suceava, RO
Before picking up "Programming Android", I've tried several books, but none were what I needed. They were either too vague, with hardly any real knowledge, or recipe-based, with tons of code but little explanation."Programming Android" had me hooked from the very beginning, when it gave me a short background of Java. I knew Java somewhat, but had no previous working experience, and I could find different use case scenarios described. The transition to the Android features was nice, and easy to get into. And then, this was the first book that told me WHY to do something and not only HOW to do it. For every chapter there is proper argumentation for the techniques used, and I could understand what are the benefits of one approach, why it was better than the seemingly easier one etc.Also, every chapter presents the bit of Android architecture it refers to, and does a good job of explaining how everything works together behind the scenes. It was nice to realize that after reading a certain chapter and trying to use my newly acquired knowledge, I found my way much easier than before.I've been an Android developer for more than a year now, and I didn't need any other book. This one gave me the head start I needed, and for this, I am sincerely thankful to the authors.
Deepening Fundamental Understanding
By PP
from London, UK
About Me Maker
Android's open source accessibility has opened up the world of programming to plenty of people who might never have been interested in it before. But programming can be exceptionally complicated and daunting to many beginners. I feel Programming Android does an outstanding job of simplifying complex concepts - the architecture of apps, the multitude of functions, design requirements etc., and is a comprehensive guide and compendium of useful info for any beginner who wants to build an android app that conforms to best practice in it's design and functionality. Highly recommended.
Very good book and nice introduction
By Chris Brandsma
from Boise, ID
I really liked this book and it was very useful for me getting started with Android (I already program for IOS and Windows Phone 7, and I'm already familiar with Java).
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Eartha Steward: New building code will help lower energy bills
November 14, 2012
Dear Eartha,
Can you tell me about the building code upgrade that the towns and county are considering, from an energy perspective?
– Doug, Silverthorne
Hi Doug,
Let me tell you about the IECC (International Energy Conservation Code) 2012. The building departments are currently considering the 2012 Building Code set, of which the IECC 2012 is a part. All Summit County and town building departments are currently using the 2006 code sets. The building code applies to new construction and to remodels as well. If you build an addition to your house, the addition will need to be built to current code.
What does it mean for homeowners and renters? Generally speaking it means lower energy bills, tighter and safer homes. The Department of Energy recently released a study on the cost and energy savings of upgrading from the 2006 to the 2012 IECC. They found that homeowners will save $13,166 over the life of the home using a 30-year estimate that includes initial investment financed through increased mortgage costs and tax impacts. Energy bills will be approximately $620 lower than houses built to 2006 code. There is also an additional cost to building. A 2,400-square-foot house built on a slab will cost approximately $3,322 more to build.
What are the key differences? The air sealing and insulation checklist is more stringent. This is a welcome upgrade, as appropriate air sealing is the most cost effective way to save energy in a home. Every builder will need to come up with a strategy to reduce thermal bridging through studs. A test of the building envelope with a blower door is included. We like this too, as it is a great way to show clearly and numerically how well the house is sealed, with a very small cost associated with the test. Whole house mechanical ventilation is required, not in the energy code actually, but in the general building code. As houses are tighter, it makes sense to control the air that goes in and out. No longer will we be pulling air from nasty crawl spaces and moldy areas. Contractors can include a simple exhaust fan to accommodate this requirement and ensure adequate air quality, instead of more expensive systems like Heat Recovery Ventilation. The new Energy Star-certified Peak One homes in Frisco have chosen this affordable option.
As it is written, there are several ways builders can meet the code. They can chose a 'simulated performance path,' which is basically a Home Energy Rating that takes into account many aspects of construction, including insulation, air sealing, appliances and HVAC in one overall rating. Builders can follow a prescriptive path, where they fulfill individual requirements, but do not add up a total score. When approaching the building thermal envelope (insulation), builders can follow an alternative path for insulation, using an overall number to show adequate insulation.
There have been some concerns from builders that the new energy code will increase the cost of construction. This is true, but by about 1 percent, give or take, and the benefits to the homeowner are substantial. When reviewing the 2012 code set, we argue that the energy code is the only portion that actually saves homeowners money in the long run. We should keep this in mind when reviewing the specifics. And remember also, homes that can show lower energy costs sell for more money, especially if they are third-party certified to do so. Energy Star certification, for example, shows that homes are above code, or more efficient, by approximately 20 percent. These third party-certified homes sell for as much as 9 percent more, says a meta-study of over 1.6 million home sales in California.
Of the 23 counties surveyed by the Colorado Chapter of the IECC, 17 plan to adopt the 2012 building codes by the end of 2013. Summit County and town building departments will start to look at it this month. Often, contractors' voices concerned with increasing costs can drown out the voices of community members who want homes built with current best practices and technologies. We look to our contractors to be experts in energy efficiency, but the reality is that a little push from the code helps the education process to happen. If you want to voice your support, send an email to your building department.


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Director of Cricket Mick Newell made Symonds an offer to act as cover for skipper Stephen Fleming when he captains New Zealand in Zimbabwe.
But Symonds has turned down the offer and Newell is now looking at alternative options.
He said: "We gave Symonds a deadline of this weekend because Fleming will be away from Trent Bridge in three and a half weeks and we needed a quick answer.
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You've got a big date but you are so busy that you wait until the last possible moment to schedule your appointment at your regular salon – but you're a regular, you even know the name of your stylist's goldfish, so you've convinced yourself that they can't turn you away. Wrong! What do you do? You whip out your phone and do a quick search and start frantically dialing all salons in a 30 block radius. Nothing! But you can't cancel your date. Panic sets in and even though you haven't done your own roots since that time in college when you and your girlfriend wanted to save money, you rush to the drugstore and pick up a box of what you think is your color and rush home to DO IT YOURSELF! Another mistake. So you apply your color, shampoo, condition and rinse out your hair and it's a shade of green Kermit would be drawn to. After tears and many vows to never do your own color again you head out to your date in a top knot and a turban where you get quizical looks and blank stares.
Now, how could this situation have ended better? Well, maybe a sleek topknot with dirty hair and severely overgrown roots would have been better but you were in a panic and couldn't think straight.
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ListDimension function
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how to make and paint an interpolation of two variables
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t's time to change your ink cartridge when colors begin to fade or black ink does not appear to be as bold as in the past. To refill ink printer cartridges, you must know the make and model of your inkjet printer. This information is located on your printer or on the printer cartridge itself (you may have to remove the cartridge to read its details).
It depends on how often you use your inkjet printer in the home or office. Some inkjet printers accept two ink cartridges (one for black ink and one for colored ink), while some printers accept one ink cartridge, which has all colors needed.
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Some people believe that you should stick with buying inkjet printer cartridges from the same manufacturer that produced the inkjet printer. This is due to speculation that complications sometimes arise due to 'mixing' manufacturers. It seems to be more particular to models and manufacturers than a definitive fact, yet consumers should be wary of this debate (in some instances, using an ink cartridge of a different manufacturer can void a warranty).


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Twenty years after the Congress for the New Urbanism's founding, Duany Plater-Zyberk + Co.'s Charlotte, N.C.–based partner, Thomas E. Low, AIA, believes water should exist at the center of community planning and design. For Low, water, once the domain of infrastructure, can—and should—guide building anew and conserving the local ecology. As a certified planner and a member of the American Society of Landscape Architects, he also would like to see ecology evolve on multiple fronts. Sustainability, after all, is everyone's business.
I guess I'm a generalist—I find that I can do a better job that way. And, of course, LEED certification came along, as did some great opportunities to weave ecological issues into the placemaking initiatives. I've become really interested in landscape urbanism as a result. CNU's principles are reference points. Walkability and compactness, connectivity, access to daily needs, mixed-use, broad choice of housing—these have gone from being an avant-garde proposition to becoming more mainstream. The big challenge for CNU is implementation in tough times. The economy impacted everyone, including me. Our work has really dropped off in North America. But we have created the tools and now it's a matter of putting them out there—calibrating the right tools for the right places.
Both Miami and Denver have adopted form-based code and, so, we're changing the DNA for how cities can be planned and developed: less expensive, smarter growth. But engineering is very expensive, and it's also an area for improvement. To address this I launched the initiative "Light Imprint"—a framework for integrating ecology with community design. It's also about being intrinsically green—and in doing so, we can typically save around a third of the infrastructure costs.
There are two big challenges ahead: No. 1 is getting the word out about Light Imprint as a viable methodology for helping the significant number of civic leaders and landscape urbanists in their ecological-based design practice to become better at place-based design. The other side is to encourage New Urbanists to better understand stormwater management and infrastructure (which they had passed along to the engineers for years), and to be more proactive.
I think the current planning and design work we're doing is spectacular—and our projects are positively affected by things like natural drainage. Once people have a better understanding of the connection between community form and ecological concerns, it will be easier to jump-start the conversation on infrastructure as a design asset, rather than treating it as an afterthought.


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Calipari Announces Online Store for Coaching Drills
April 25, 2013
LEXINGTON, Ky. – Never one to hide what happens within his program, John Calipari has launched an online store for coaching drills on his website, CoachCal.com, that will allow coaches, players and fans across the world to watch the drills and teaching points he has used in guiding teams to four Final Fours and the 2012 national championship.
The online store features nearly 40 videos of practice sessions that Calipari has used in developing 15 NBA Draft picks over the last three years.
The videos, which range in length from two minutes to 20-plus minutes, include various skills and teaching points on shooting, defense, the Dribble Drive Motion Offense and more. The pricing of each coaching drill varies from free to $2.99. All proceeds from each video purchased go directly to The Calipari Foundation.
"We talk about being different and transparent, and I believe this is another one of those things," Calipari said. "These coaching drills are another way that we can show everyone what we're teaching and how we're teaching. They are available to players, coaches, fans and whoever else wants them. The great thing with this is all the revenue is going straight to the foundation to be used for projects that the foundation is investing in."
The Calipari Foundation invests in communities. These communities are not limited by geography – they can also be education, social and spiritual in nature. The foundation's purpose is to improve the quality of life both in and through these communities, with a particular focus on enriching the lives of children.


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Charles Gail McCombs, 82, of West Lake, Ohio, formerly of Blairsville, was called home to be with the Lord on Monday, April 29, 2013, at Deavon Oaks, West Lake, Ohio.
Visitation will be held from 2 to 4 p.m. and 7 to 9 p.m. Thursday at the James F. Ferguson Funeral Home, Blairsville. Acacia Lodge #355 F&AM will conduct Masonic services at 7:30 p.m. Thursday in the funeral home. A funeral service will be held at 1 p.m. Friday at the funeral home with the Rev. Terry Shaffer officiating.
Interment will be in Blairsville Cemetery.


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I'd like to download all pictures of the Jango and Zam Gallery to have quick access before I start working on those parts. I started with a few pictures, but quickly noticed, that it would take ages to do it manually.
Is there a way to download several pictures at once or even the whole section?
Or maybe there is a faster way than what I did.
I basically opened the section, clicked on the picture, enlarged it and then downloaded it.
Downloading from the section overview will just download the thumbnail of the picture.
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Vince and Dickson,
You both have probably seen this already, but for TWIP and TWIM listeners fighting malaria with transgenic fungi is the first item in the 41 minute podcast for 25 Feb 2011, from http://www.sciencemag.org/ . This sounds both fascinating as another means of dealing with animal and plant pathogens, and frightening from my understanding that fungi, at least as a human pathogen, are difficult to control. Could such fungi be transferred to humans and how can that be tested? Here's a hard copy source, too: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-transgenic-fungi-combat-malaria-bug-borne.html
I think that podcast also talks about a new palm-sized NMR device! Man, it just keeps getting better and better...
On a totally different subject. Vince, you went through Weed, California some months back and I see you were just up in Washington state. As a kid I lived a few miles south of Weed, in the logging town of Mt Shasta (next to the mountain) as well as in a railroad town of Dunsmuir a few more miles south. You can also see Black Butte just north of the town of Mt Shasta along the interstate. Black Butte is a cinder cone about 2000 ft high with a path on the back side that's visible with Google Earth, that used to lead to a US Forest Service fire watch station that was continuously manned. I think it took us kids a couple hours to climb the path. If you get back that way in the summer, have the time and want the exercise, the climb up Black Butte would be a pleasant adventure. Mind the altitude, though. The starting point is about 4,000 ft.
For Dickson, a couple miles west of Mt Shasta up in the Cascades is a small mountain lake (almost a pond), maybe 20 acres in size with 2-foot-long rainbow trout that appeared to float in mid-air, the water was so clear. The lake only supported a few of these beauties and they were impossible to catch. The lake name, which you can locate with Google Earth, was either Porcupine or Toad Lake. Porcupine seems to be the one, but I don't see any logging roads to it as appear to exist for Toad Lake and the one with the fish could be reached by road, while you had to walk to the other. That was 50 years back, though.
There's a web cam for Mt Shasta, http://www.snowcrest.net/camera/ with several days worth of time lapse viewing that I look at. The same site provides temperature data. It was interesting as a kid to have a mountain in your back yard.
Smithfield, VA
Eric writes:
Dear Vincent and Dickson:
Thanks for reading my email. The "sync" trick I referred to was the synchronous mouse infection that Dickson describes at 15:20 into twip #5.
It's wonderful that Dickson shares this with the new researchers coming up. It's a bit like a magic trick - difficult at first to see how it's done, but much easier once you know the technique.
In rooting out computer bugs, if you can repeat the problem, you can always find its cause. The sync trick is like repeating the problem many times in parallel, so you only need to run the experiment one time. And if you have to destroy a cell to see what stage its at, you have many others still running at the same pace. Love it!
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This is for Dick, again, in the infomatics realm: just in case you've not kept up with the different presentations, http://bit.ly/hRFr8y .
I love these things.
Smithfield, VA
Sorry Dick, but I should have used the www.gapminder.org link rather than one that showed a couple of his TED presentations dealing with statistics.
Stephen writes:
Dear TWIP,
Isaac Asimov was a biochemist, not a physicist as mentioned in episode 23.
He did write many "Popular Science" books explaining physics and astronomy (I have 3 or 4 of those), so it is an easy mistake to make.
- Stephen
Judi writes:
Hello Drs R and D,
Thanks for the great podcast - I learn science, history, and a bit of politics from you and love the unexpected connections you make (Abe should have given a medal to the hookworm as the supreme undercover agent!)
I am a high school teacher and I try to teach my students to think about things - and one of the things I've been pushing is that virtually every decision or action has a potential positive and a potential negative - you weigh both sides to make your decision.
In that vein, i have to ask the other side. When you talk about parasites, you talk about them in relation to human disease, and , rightly so, the goal is to rid the world of them to protect people. My question - do they have no other function in the larger ecosystem? Can we rid the world of onchocerca - or hookworm or malaria for that matter - and have no effect on the larger ecosystem?
If these are truly a single food chain, rather than being part of a food web, I will use them in class as an example. Right now I tell kids that almost all organisms are part of a food web and so we need to look carefully before to bulldoze or plow or pave or overfish.
Thanks for keeping me learning and interested - and for the best professional development I have ever gotten! I strive to teach as well as the two of you...
San Diego, CA
Raphael writes:
I've been doing some transcribing in my free time on your TWiP's "Hookworm" episode for my blog site and it seems that Dr. Dick made an error on mentioning the term "hematuria" for the dark-brown colored stools found in patients with intestinal bleeding. "Hematuria" is meant for blood in the urine. What Dr. Dick was supposed to mean was "melena," and contrasting this to the word "hematochezia" for the bright-red stools (undigested, fresh blood).
If you're interested to note the error, it's around 39 mins and 55 secs of the recording time.
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So I came across this thread once upon a time where Mojo (Gav) mentions that some FP v.3 armor will be available soon. Quite a teaser right! That got the ball rolling. I PMed him a few times and he put me in touch with our own Darth Paul, who was selling his FP armor. Not sure of the circumstances, but I wish Paul the best and hope to see him back in the game soon!
Paul was gracious enough to ship the armor to Gav and from there we start the WIP thread. I asked Gav to paint me up some RotJ armor. I love the MoM exhibit pics and I'm having Gav recreate that feel with my armor. Thanks out to BM for shipping the chest and shoulder decals directly to Gav.
I just want to also say that the whole process with these guys has been nothing short of AWESOME!!! Both Paul and Gav have been stellar in the communication and are quite possibly the nicest guys in the entire UK! You guys are the reason that this board is what it is. Cheers!!!
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Another Ludwig Mies van der Rohe–designed townhouse is up for grabs in the coveted Lafayette Park neighborhood in Detroit, and if the sale of another townhouse earlier this month is any indication, this one won't last long.
At $159,000, it's the highest asking price for a townhouse here to date (although the one that sold a few weeks ago, which held the previous record, went for above asking). Realtor Elizabeth Tintinalli of Real Estate One explains in an email that the higher asking price for this unit is due to a additional lower-level bedroom and bath. Curbed Detroit points out, however, that space may not legally be a bedroom since it does not have an operable window or exterior door that could serve as an emergency exit.
The townhouse, advertised at 4 bedrooms and 2.5 baths, was listed last Wednesday, and an open house was held on Sunday. It's 1,400 square feet and was built in 1959, according to the listing.
Tintinalli says over email that the sellers were planning on reviewing three offers on the townhouse on Monday.
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Manchester woman taken to hospital after husband backs into her with SUV
Remy Casimir 50, told officers he didn't realize his wife, Marthe Casimir 59, was behind his vehicle when he was backing up in the rear parking area at 496 Kimball St. just before 2 p.m., according to police Lt. Michael Hurley.
Marthe Casimir was taken to Catholic Medical Center to be treated for a broken arm and a hip injury.
Alcohol and speed were not factors in the accident.
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The Canisius College men's and women's swimming and diving teams set a program mark with 16 student-athletes named to the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference (MAAC) All-Academic Team as announced by the conference.
Among the 16 Griffs named to the conference team, nine were from the men's team and seven from the women's.
A total of nine men achieved the honor, including three representatives from each of the senior, junior, and sophomore classes. Earning their third selections were seniors Tyler Carver (3.280 GPA - Animal Behavior Ecology Conservation), Robby Novak (3.420 GPA - Accounting), and Shawn Parkhurst (3.820 GPA - Physical/Health Education).
Juniors Andrew Edbauer (3.300 GPA - History) and Adam Swift (3.300 GPA - Digital Media Arts) both received their second selections, while fellow junior Corey Petrie (3.400 GPA - Information Systems) and sophomores Shane Donovan (3.410 GPA - Accounting), Sam Hansen (3.920 GPA - Psychology), and Sean Wurster (3.850 GPA - Biology) earned their first selections.
The women's honorees included juniors Maggie DeMarco (3.470 GPA - Adolescence Education), Kelli Graber (3.830 GPA - Physical/Health Education), and Leah Villari (3.310 GPA - Special/Childhood Education). DeMarco and Graber earned their second selection with Villari receiving her first nod.
Also securing their first selections were sophomores Taylor Epstein (3.220 GPA - Health and Wellness), Mary Hoak (3.380 GPA - Special/Early Childhood Education), Sara Nungesser (3.350 GPA - Mathematics and Statistics), and Alyse Stevenson (3.710 GPA - Psychology).
To be eligible for the MAAC All-Academic Team, a student-athlete must achieve at least a 3.2 grade point average (on a 4.0 scale) and must be at least a sophomore in academic standing.


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I'm new here, however I wanted to pass along a link to this really cool new photography site. Its called Photo Art Museum (www.photoartmuseum.com)
Whats great about the site is that you can sell your photography for free, there are no listing fees. Its also a great way to get exposure from a worldwide audience. I've been a professional photographer for over 10 years now and I really like this site.
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#3-5: Nurseries are the new bookstores
In the past, they were utilitarian outposts where you'd get your plants and go. Now, nurseries nudge you to take your coat off and stay awhile, with coffee bars, shelves of books to browse, and cafe tables amid the greenery. Latte, please!
3 | San Francisco: Grab a coffee and scone at always-ahead-of-the-trend Flora Grubb Gardens, then wander through lush plantscapes and cozy seating nooks that feel like a fabulously stylish friend's garden. floragrubb.com
4 | Santa Cruz: Shop alongside skateboard-toting students and backyard farmers at Dig Gardens. The store has a great collection of botanical-inspired decor and local art, plus locally roasted espresso. diggardens.com
5 | Seattle Area: Molbak's (pictured; molbaks.com) in Woodinville and Swansons (swansonsnursery.com) in Seattle have acres of greenery and airy, light-filled cafes. Check out the houseplant collection at Molbak's—one of the best around—and Swansons' conservatory and koi pond.


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So I'm looking at a possible Mando/Death Watch build in the future and I'm researching and seeing what's out there.
One big question is the helmet, I have a big head. A lot of helmets wont fit me. I can wear a TK, TS and TB bucket, but I have not yet found a clone or RC bucket to fit my huge head. For reference I had to put my FX TK on sideways to get it to fit and I still couldn't wear my glasses underneath.
At a recent con I tried on a Garrison mates Fett bucket (sorry, I forget the maker) and wasn't able to get it on. Are there any buckets that run larger or maybe the cheeks don't come in as far or any recommendations?


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The day's opening point would come down to a tiebreak on court one. Price and Whitney Kay ran out to a 5-2 lead over the No. 8 team of Linda Abu Mushrefova and Nida Hamilton before the Northwestern duo rallied back to break two times in a row and take a 6-5 lead.
The Tar Heels broke right back, then held serve and had a pair of match points in the ensuing game, but NU eventually held to make it 7-7. Both teams held to force a decisive tiebreaker and the Wildcats had a match point at 6-5 before Price and Kay took the next three points to win the doubles point in a thriller.
Carolina (16-1) quickly went ahead 3-0 thanks to a pair of dominant singles wins from De Bruycker and Price. De Bruycker put together one of her best matches of 2013 in disposing of No. 64 Kate Turvy in straight sets, 6-1, 6-2, on court two. Price moved to 15-0 in duals with her 6-3, 6-3 victory over Alicia Barnett on court four.
But the Wildcats (8-6) responded, taking the opening set on three of the other four courts. Abu Mushrevova got NU on the board with a 6-2, 6-4 victory over No. 124 Ashley Dai at the No. 6 spot. At No. 5, Brittany Wowchuk rallied back from a 5-2 deficit in the opening set to win, 7-5, 6-4, over Lauren McHale.
It would ultimately be Suarez-Malaguti who secured the dual with a win at the top of the lineup. The fourth-ranked senior took the opening set, 6-3, before No. 125 Belinda Niu evened the match with a 6-2 win in the second. After the two split the first two games of the final set, Suarez-Malaguti notched consecutive breaks and finished out the 6-3, 2-6, 6-2, win to take the dual.
In the day's final result, No. 23 Kay dropped her first match of the spring to Veronica Corning, 7-5, 5-6, 6-4, on court three.
Sunday's win concludes a three-match road swing as well as the non-conference portion of the regular season schedule. UNC returns home to face ACC foes Virginia Tech and Virginia March 29 and 30 in Chapel Hill.
No. 1 North Carolina 4, No. 11 Northwestern 3
1. Whitney Kay / Caroline Price (UNC) def. No. 8 Linda Abu Mushrevofa / Nida Hamilton (NU) 9-8 (8-6)
2. Ashley Dai / Zoe DeBruycker (UNC) def. Belinda Niu / Kate Turvy (NU) 8-1
3. Veronica Corning / Alicia Barnett (NU) def. Tessa Lyons / Lauren McHale (UNC) 8-4
Order of finish: 3, 2, 1*
1. No. 4 Gina Suarez-Malaguti def. No. 125 Belinda Niu (NU) 6-3, 2-6, 6-2
2. Zoe De Bruycker (UNC) def. No. 64 Kate Turvy (NU) 6-1, 6-2
3. Veronica Corning (NU) def. No. 23 Whitney Kay (UNC) 7-5, 4-6,6-4
4. Caroline Price (UNC) def. Alicia Barnett (NU) 6-3, 6-3
5. Brittany Wowchuk (NU) def. Lauren McHale (UNC) 7-5, 6-4
6. Linda Abu Mushrefova (NU) def. No. 124 Ashley Dai 6-2, 6-4
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khunjeff wrote:I would be in for one if Woot would send this to an APO address! Right now I use an electric leaf blower to clear powdery snow off my walk in Korea, or a shovel if the snow is too wet...both are slow and somewhat difficult. Would love to buy this puppy
ME TOO! Come on woot... Pleeeease!! It's been snowing for the past month here in Ramstein and this would be perfect for my big kid husband. Would be perfect post valentines day present. *sniff*
kuma99 wrote:electricity + wet = yikes.
This bad-boy pulls 15 amps. That means you ned a real outlet. 3-prong and preferably gfci.
Longer cord ups the amperage requirement
50 foot needs 12 ga cord.
100 feet needs 10 ga cord.
150 feet needs gas blower.
longer the cord, more it draws. Same with wetter snow- it will pull a higher amperage.
Be safe.
I would need a 50 foot cord just to reach the sidewalk from the plug.
hushpuppy20 wrote:I'm 32 but I have asthma so this little thrower helps out a lot!
I had the problem with the cord coming unplugged on me, getting wet in the snow, and then I'd be afraid to plug it back in. It might not be the safest thing to do but I've started duct taping the cord to the connector.
With these types of throwers the cord is the most annoying part. Just keep it to your left or right, make sure it unwinds right and get a good color like red that will be visible above the snow.
With a little practice you'll be fine. Don't try it out for the first time with all your neighbors out shoveling and watching/judging you if possible!
No Problem... Just lick the snow off the plug!
It would take exactly 12.4 seconds for me to run over the power cord. I would then either electrocute myself or the auger would dislodge, fly through the air and sever my jugular. Pass.
Johnny number 5 told me my mama was a snow blower. I agreed, and I am in for 3 to reunite my family.
This little cutie will clean snow down to the pavement under many conditions, leaving a modest, clear path. For deeper, heavier snow, SLOW DOWN and, if you are confident in your skills, lift her up to trim the top layer(s) off first -- she's light enough! I use a bright orange outdoor rated cord on a modified hose reel (be sure the male plug-in end can spin freely) that rolls in the summer and gets hooked under my arm in the winter. I went gas-combustion-engine free a few years back (I'm a female who doesn't like smelling like a grease monkey), starting with a mower. I bought this same model (for same $!) two years ago, and was startled, at first, at what looked like a plastic auger. It has to be more like hard rubber because it has chewed thru 1" branches buried in the drifts. She's not macho (neither is my quiet, battery-powered mower), but for MN winter, she has done well for me.
GURABoy wrote:I've seen a lot of snow blowers over the years, but always gas-powered. Anyone have any experience with electric? Decent price, but I have to say I'm skeptical, like I am of electric chainsaws...
As I wrote above, I live in MN and like this model. Just take it easy, buy the appropriate cord, and pay attention to what is in your path to avoid said cord.
dviglino wrote:...anywhere that is not on the walkways or driveway.
I saw this and thought: YES! Finally! But then saw it was electric. Guess it could work right outside the garage, but I'd need a LONG extension cord for the driveway... and then I'm worried about electric outages.
Still. Pretty good price...
I wonder if this would clear a cruise ship deck?
This thing might be fine if you live in an area where you get light snow. I would not count on this if you are in an area that gets deep snow or where it snows often. I have a gas powered two stage and it works great but I have always kicked myself for not buying a larger one and it is much larger than this.
Trying to decide if I'm lazy enough to buy this for use on my front deck.
I have one of these which I got at a thrift store for $25. It is great for ANY snow depth. If the snow is too deep I simply pick it up and swing it over the snow taking off a few inches at a time. Try that with a gas powered blower! A few years back we had over 30 inches of snow and it handled that and the plow-packed snow which was pushed up against the cars. If I didn't have an extension cord long enough I would use it with my generator.
My landlord has the older model of this snow blower. Its junk... Unless you want to spend 4+ hours extra outside get this... Self propelled gas powered snow blowers are great. This does not get down to pavement it does not have real blades on it or power... Im orginally from Buffalo Ny and had to deal with the storm last week in Connecticut. I rather shovel than using this pos.
Very tempted to order one of these. I have a 26" 10 HP gas snow blower to do the big stuff but I have a 12' x 16' deck which is 7' above the ground that I have to shovel.This should be perfect for that job.What to do,what to do,I'm thinking this will sell out today so I need to make up my mind soon.
I have an electric snowblower - not this one, but a SnowJoe brand one.
Mine is surprisingly powerful and works very well, even in a Wisconsin winter.
I've had it four or five winters now and I've used it in several quite large snows - I just try not to let the snow get a lot higher than the front scoop and it will handle it. It will even do the snowplow mountain at the bottom of the driveway pretty well if the pile of snow is not all frozen together
Gas two stage is obviously more powerful (and works better on the snowplow mountain at the bottom of driveways), but my little SnowJoe can do almost anything and is lightweight and doesn't take up much space in the garage. And if it has a problem, I can easily carry it into the house and let it warm up and snow melt off and then I can easily examine it/fix it in comfort.
The biggest downside is probably that it is less wide and takes more passes to clear the same space. Also is not self propelled (but the light weight makes it pretty easy to push). You have to have a sufficient extension cord, and that can be a little bit of a hassle to manipulate.
Tough little snow blower. It's pretty much made out of all durable plastic. I live in the Philly area and used one for about 5 seasons. If you are adverse to gas powered blowers, this is a good solution. It's really for someone who's good with routines and who pays attention to detail because you need several good winter electric cords, have to keep the cords away from the snow feeder at all times, and it will jam occasionally. In heavy snow, you can get a bit creative by lifting it to the top of the snow and blowing layers of snow until it's all gone in on area. You can do this because it is so light weight. Also, excels at clearing the end of the drive way. What did mine in was I rushed one day and it ate the electric cord. Good for an area the only gets 1 or 2 big storms a year. It will really save your back. Think of the gas powered blowers as being the Enterprise. Well, this is the Defiant, a scrappy one, not to be underestimated.
I have had a Toro 1800 since 1995 and it is still running strong in Massachusetts. Have only replaced the metal skids once.
I also have a 11hp Ariens snow blower - each has its purpose. But before I had the Ariens the Toro was used for a one car wide driveway about 60 feet long. It worked fine except for the very hard packed snow left by the plows at the end of the driveway. It is great for clearing decks.
gooseygoose wrote:Its crazy there is actually places that get enough snow to blow around. Tell me oh people who actually get a winter, where do you blow the snow to?
Your neighbor's driveway. Just be sure to get up RED STAPLER!
I wrote "just be sure to get up first" and it changed it to "red stapler". I don't understand....
I'm a female senior citizen living in the Poconos and I've owned this model for several years. It's great for snowfalls up to 6 or 8 inches - though after that I call the plow guy. My driveway is 100 feet long - so I had to use a couple of extension cords and learn how to best navigate without getting all tangled up - but it's well worth the price. I paid much more.
So could I put a bag on it and use it for mulching leaves? Since I never see any real snow in my part of Texas I'm thinking there has to be some other uses for it. Maybe a giant bubble blower??
The advantage of electric is maintenance and starting. Your wife could use this (you cad!). No storage of gas that goes bad, no tune-ups or oil changes. No pull start. That being said, I think there is a limit of how much you can realistically do with this. My ex brother-in-law had the gas version of this which used flexible rubber blades that actually got down to the sidewalk. It worked pretty well I thought and was less complicated than the two-stage blowers.
bluetide wrote:I am looking for a snow blower for quite a while now, gas-powered ones, but they are three times this price. Any suggestions why someone would opt for electric for gas beside the price point? Is it better to spend some more money now to get convenience of having a gas-powered one for the years to come? Any suggestions/comments? Thanks.
edit: one more point, I live in the Midwest/Chicago
I bought this at Home Depot about two months ago for $321, and thought it was a little expensive but still worth it.
We've had consistent snowfall here in Minneapolis and this thing has saved my butt. No problems with anything I've shoved down it's throat, just avoid the ice dam from the plow.
I have a 75' drive, a patio, two walkways, and I also do my elderly neighbor's drive. Before, when I had a two-stage gas, it took 15 minutes just to warm up the machine, stink up the neighborhood, handle fuel and oil, find my hearing protection...what a mess. That thing eventually blew a gasket and bled oil all over my garage, and left a rusty footprint I may never be able to get rid of. This is so much better. Killer deal at $134.
And cord management, if you just plan ahead and know how to coil, is not an issue. Let it run down the path you just plowed, and work next to where it lays on the next path. I mean, this is like a vacuum cleaner, really, and nobody complains about them being electric.
Being from "the north" I would never buy an electric snow blower.
I purchased a Toro machine that looked similar to this about 5 years ago. In all fairness it could have been a different model or they could have improved it since then. But the one I had was a piece of crap. The first time I used it, it worked fine. The second time I used it, I hit a chunk of ice in the pile of snow the plows leave by the curb. That was enough to dislodge a belt or grind a gear or something, because the blades would no longer turn after that. Back to Home Depot it went for a refund. I no longer have the documents for the machine as it was returned, so maybe I had a different model, or maybe Toro got their act together to make a machine that can be used more than a few times. Just sayin'.
How many HDMI ports does it have? Oh wait, this isn't a refurbished TV.
I have one and love it. It is great for clearing 2" - 6". Starts working hard when it is wet and heavy snow but never failed me yet. Will not replace a gas model. I would not try to dig out my cabin with this. I use it for my driveway which is about 3,000 sf and I can clear it in about 5 - 10 min. I use a 100' extension cord and once you get a system of how not to run over the cord it is great. I sucked the cord up once and had to cut it out. Way easier than a gas model if you have an outlet or 2 nearby. Super light so it hangs on the wall. I have a 60" plow on my 4 wheeler and this is faster for small areas.
Just remember this thing has a 15 amp motor, so your standard orange extension cord WILL NOT WORK. You will either burn up the cord or destroy the motor in your snowblower.
Considering also that it will be freezing, you need a cord that is still flexible in cold temperatures. I suggest http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Cable-Low-Temp-Outdoor-Extension/dp/B00004SQFA/ref=pd_sim_hi_8
Keep in mind if you need a 100 foot cord, you're going to need a 12 gauge cord, as at 100 feet the 14 gauge cord only provides 13 amps and will create a fire hazard.
http://www.amazon.com/US-Wire-99100-100-Foot-Extension/dp/B001KY03FC/ref=sr_1_6?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1360934159&sr=1-6&keywords=12+gauge+extension+cord This one should work well.
maxdamage wrote:Being from "the north" I would never buy an electric snow blower.
Living in "the north" I own an electric snow blower and have no issues.
My reasoning was that maintenance and initial up front cost of gas was higher, in my experience living in Michigan the one time our power DID go out with a storm I didn't have to go into work anyway because there was 2 - 3 feet of snow on the roads.
And as others have said, if there is a lot of snow, this can handle it. If it's higher than the body of the blower, you can run this on top of the snow and do it in layers - something you cannot do with a gas powered blower.
The additional bonus of this little blower is that its quiet - you can run it at 3am if you need to and not wake up your neighbors.
I should also add that the people complaining about it not getting down to the concrete are using it incorrectly. The picture of the guy using it on his driveway is wrong. If the back wheels are on the ground, the blade is not being used. The key is to lift the back of the blower up about 1-2" so that the blade is sliding along the ground, not the wheels. This ensures you are cutting down into the snow so you pick up everything.
I live where you live. I can't speak directly to your question, because I own neither. But what I can talk about is electric weed trimmer vs. gas. I thought buying anything electric over gas was a major advantage because of how much $ the small engine repair guys want to fix something these days. So I drag almost 200 feet of cord out every time I need to trim and remind myself that I'm saving lots o' dough on gas trimmer repairs. I'm over it. Dragging a cord everywhere sucks. Hope I didn't waste your time, but wanted to fast-forward you to a perspective that you might share in a few years of dragging extension cords around in the snow.
j647 wrote:I wrote "just be sure to get up first" and it changed it to "red stapler". I don't understand....
Filters. We have so little fun around here that we get it where we can.
"That's no knife, THIS is a knife" - Crocodile Dundee
"That's no snow blower, THIS is a snow blower!"
jmackinac wrote:I live where you live. I can't speak directly to your question, because I own neither. But what I can talk about is electric weed trimmer vs. gas. I thought buying anything electric over gas was a major advantage because of how much $ the small engine repair guys want to fix something these days. So I drag almost 200 feet of cord out every time I need to trim and remind myself that I'm saving lots o' dough on gas trimmer repairs. I'm over it. Dragging a cord everywhere sucks. Hope I didn't waste your time, but wanted to fast-forward you to a perspective that you might share in a few years of dragging extension cords around in the snow.
This seems to be the biggest complaint with electric snowblowers, but it all depends on where your plugs are. Mine are in my garage - so I can pull the cord out behind me as I go down the driveway, keep it in the path I just cleared and go beside it, back and forth. The cord never gets in the way. If you have to cross the cord to complete your driveway, then perhaps an electric is not for you. And given the amperage of this motor, a 200' cord would be absolutely impossible to manage.
This device requires at most a 100' distance between your plug and the end of your plowing run. Longer than that and you won't be able to get the thing to run.
Get the gas one. Get at least a 8hp and 24" auger. Electric ones are a pain in the butt. Dealing with extention cords all the time.... why go through all the trouble?
Growing up in Buffalo, I can say that I know snow. But, I no longer live where it snows 6 feet overnight. I still get snow, not as much but I have a 150 foot long driveway! I bought one of these a few years ago from home depot because I have given up on gas-powdered outdoor equipment. (that is another story) I was pleasantly surprised at how well this works in light or heavy snows. Like any snow-blower the method of removing snow is a learned skill and many times failure with equipment is because the method is wrong. For a deep snow you can only "slice off" only half the size of your equipment blade. Use of a spray to help the snow slide off also is a common tip. I highly recommend this equipment. It has served me well with no problems, except my neighbors who were complaining when the wind picked up the snow I was blowing and put it in their driveway.... haha
Just read the posts about cord problems, Not true!!!! any Milton can buy long enough cords and shift them away from whatever side you are working on. Would you rather be positioning a cord or standing in a cold shed tuning-up a gas motor that didn't work.....
I have one. It works really well on light snow. I've only used it a few times with snow drifting about a foot high. It handled that fine. I don't think it would dig right into a 4 foot snow plow pile. You could easily, however, break the snow out with a shovel then throw it with this.
The ONLY problem I had was the extension cord. It got stiff in the cold weather. That, however, is a small price for the convenience.
The device is very light. One hand carry. It was easy to use it as an electric shovel to get porch steps. You can hang it on the garage wall to get it out of the way.
As for electric, anything I only use occasionally is electric. No messing about with fuel preservative etc.
This is a lightweight machine. Don't buy it if you live in Syracuse. Here in the midwest (near St. Louis), it's just perfect.
I'll bet if Woot changed their shipping policy, Hawaii would be snapping these things right up. . .
hushpuppy20 wrote:I had the problem with the cord coming unplugged on me, getting wet in the snow, and then I'd be afraid to plug it back in. It might not be the safest thing to do but I've started duct taping the cord to the connector.
You might be able to just replace your plug - a 3 prong plug should fit snugly and not fall out. Replace your receptacle ($5) and this problem should be solved
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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Omaha Piston, May 11, 2009.
I thought it was all KMarts, Melo and Nene's fault. Everybody lets CB down.
You have Billups confused with Iverson.
ESPN now makes fun of Chauncey Billups. Bill Simmons: NBA Finals preview for Los Angeles Lakers and Orlando Magic - ESPN So Cold.
He's the PG can always say "I was trying to keep all my guys envolved". Go Superman. Please no happiness in Laker land.
I liked this one right below it.
He pretty much said the same thing immediately following the trade. He appears to be spot-on.
Still does not explain why CB always whither up like a 6 month old prune in the ECF, at least he is consistent.
You can't make one for one trades unless the contracts are equal. Rip was underpaid. By making his contract larger he has more value, in a trade. [stats and perception being equal]
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I would buy a Tiguan but it can't tow more than 2,000lb.
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I would be more interested in BMWs except for their archetype their drivers follow in general is a massive turn off.
I would be more interested in Ferraris except for that I think their more current cars aren't exactly what I'd exactly call pretty.
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I would buy a BMW, but I left Philly over a year a go and no longer am I a complete douche bag. Also I don't like tanning.
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I would buy another VAG product, but they don't see TDI + AWD as a viable option for the US Market ...
/if they did, well ...
I'd get a Nissan Maxima, except the CVT is a complete joke and the car needs a 6MT and DSG type options.
I'd would get an Acura, if their design language didn't suck so much.
I would buy another Volkswagen but there aren't anymore coilpacks left for replacement on this planet because my mk4 used them all.
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Obligatory "I would get an AMG Benz, but no manual."
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text: Not a poll, just discussion. I see the umpteenth thread has just been posted about who would have won the hypothetical ladies event, but I rarely see threads about the others, so I thought I'd start one. Dance: Pretty easily G&P. T&D probably wouldn't have returned (assuming this was allowed as it was in 94)... would U&Z have stayed in? As for the rest of the podium, could K&O win a silver in their second season together, would B&K have won an Olympic medal without a previous Worlds one? I am guessing R&K would have stayed in and won a medal. Pairs: Really interesting, because it was in a great flux at that time. Would M&D have come back? I don't see Elstova/Bushkov being the OGM... I can't see anyone on the Worlds podium that year being the OGM. K&D weren't ready yet (if they'd have gotten together at all). Maybe Shishkova & Naumov would've timed their peak for 1996... strange event. Men: Can't see any of Eldredge, Kulik (not at that time anyway), or Galindo winning the OGM. I guess Urmanov, Stojko, and Candeloro could've peaked just like they did in 1994.


text: Cathy Speronis was in for this month's Cooking with Cathy segment, she made Homemade Ice Cream Sandwiches National Ice Cream Sandwich Day.The recipe on how to make these Ice Cream Sandwiches is below:Ice Cream SandwichesAdapted from Cooks IllustratedMakes 12 sandwichesIngredients: 1 cup all-purpose flour1/2 cup sifted, unsweetened cocoa powder1/4 tsp. salt1/4 tsp. baking soda2 large eggs3/4 cup granulated sugar1/4 cup chocolate syrup1/4 tsp. vanilla extract8 Tbsp. unsalted butter, melted2 pints vanilla or chocolate ice cream Directions Preheat oven to 350° F placing rack in middle. Place the ice cream in the refrigerator to soften while making the cookies. Grease the bottom and sides of a 1/2 sheet pan (17″ x 12″). Line the bottom with a piece of parchment paper (do not grease the parchment paper): set aside. In a medium bowl, sift together the flour, cocoa powder, salt and baking soda: set aside. In a large bowl beat the eggs, sugar, chocolate syrup and vanilla with a whisk until lightened in color. Add the melted butter and beat until incorporated. With a rubber spatula gradually fold in the dry ingredients until smooth, mixture will resemble a brownie batter. Pour into the center of the prepared sheet pan. With an offset spatula spread the batter from the center to the sides. Take your time getting it as even as possible. Place in the oven and bake for 10 to 12 minutes until it springs back when touched lightly. Remove from oven and cool for 5 minutes. Invert onto a cooling rack, peel off parchment and invert again onto another cooling rack shiny side up. Cool completely. While cookies are cooling form a piece of aluminum foil into a pan that is half the size of the above sheet pan (8.5″ x 12″). Spread the softened ice cream into the foil pan – this will form the filling for the sandwiches. Refreeze until hardened. Cut the cookies into 24 rectangles (8ths by 3rds.) It is helpful to use a pre-folded 17″ x 12″ piece of parchment paper as a guide to make the cookies even.Invert the formed ice cream filling onto a cutting board. Peel off the foil and cut into 12 rectangles using the parchment guide above. Working quickly, place an ice cream rectangle between two cookies then onto a sheet pan and into the freezer. Repeat making the remaining sandwiches. Chill until set, about an hour. Wrap the sandwiches in pieces of parchment and keep frozen until ready to serve.


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Originally Posted by Capnblu View Post
It is always hard to believe a refit can cost as much as it has. Then as you pass that point, it is hard to believe it could cost more,... Eventually you may wonder how you ever did everything, as you begin again. Trust me go sailing, it is way more fun than thinking about it while you work.
Right now I am in head check mode. Working out what works for our budget. So, what I am getting from this thread is that I should either (a) buy a super cheap boat that has an excellent hull/deck and then plan on replacing everything as a matter of course, or (b) just spend the majority of the money I was budgeting for a refit and buy a better boat that doesn't require all that refit.
Option a would allow us to customize the boat with equipment that is best for us but option b would allow us to get going sooner.
Our biggest issue is that we are going to have to live on that boat for at least a year at a marina before we head out, so the boat needs to be relatively comfortable for my wife as she needs to dress nicely for work and what not.
|It is always hard to believe a refit can cost as much as it has. Then as you pass that point, it is hard to believe it could cost more,... Eventually you may wonder how you ever did everything, as you begin again. Trust me go sailing, it is way more fun than thinking about it while you work.
Frankly, I spent 22K for my boat, I would bet another 40K easy in cushions, sails, running rigging, interior, complete change of deck gear, head redo, I am sure I am missing some things too!........... And I have a 30'r, I would not hazard a guess what a bigger boat would be!
Number for refit? There is no answer without knowing the boat, her equipment and condition, and your expectations (as well as your wife's fabric choices ).
You mention not needing running rigging - hardly an issue as it is not expensive to change if necessary. But standing rigging should be changed on an older boat - at least before going offshore. And it is more expensive than running rigging.
As Chris posted above, the prices are high if the work is hired out. Hourly rates of upto $100 and the fact that all jobs are "custom", in other words different from the last and the next. But there are no jobs on a boat with the exception of welding, engine work, and commercial swaging that can not be learned quite easily if you are at all handy with tools and can read. The money you save even after buying the proper tools is substantial. And you know your boat better and are better equipped to repair/replace items in out of the way places where the language is a barrier as well as not knowing which tradesman to trust.
If one were to buy a new boat of the size you are looking for I think you could easily spend 20k for extra equipment.
I am not sure that you can eliminate the things you mention entirely, though they might be specific known items you avoid. Like teak decks replacement say 25K.
Even with a near new motor it cost me about $4k for a new prop and shaft in part because of difficulty removing the old one and access.
Even a new holding tank worked out very expensive like 3.5K because the thru hulls and seacocks needed replacement, plus a few very expensive bits for the head, plus access was very poor making labour cost high.
New anchor chain and warp say 1000, plus windlass at 1700, then modify anchor well and do base for windlass plus stem fitting plus wiring say another 3000. Thats not adding haul out and hard stand charges.
The boatbuilder's advice to me was whatever you think it will cost multiply it by 3 or was it 4?
Even on a very good boat you could well spend 10-20k without there being any major issues, simply because of age wear and substantial costs of everything and boats being hard to work on so labour time and costs are high.
Specifically redoing the interior. I had a quote to redo the laminate roughly a square metre on a u shaped galley $2000. There is a way of repainting it for much less. With some of these things one can learn to do it oneself but there is an issue say in having the tools because of complications like fiddles etc apart from learning the skills of a variety of trades.
At a guess I would think having the interior done could cost a bomb like 20k+ without headlining and upholstery. You might get it for less with veneer and judicious painting.
It really doesnt work to add say 40% to purchase cost because for a near perfect boat it might be 5% for another 100%. The other approach is what is the top price for such a boat? I looked at one in very good shape asking 90k. Sold 81K. Known cost of redecking 25K. One might add 8k for incidentals. Total cost 114K value then 100K. Real value of boat then is 67-75K but that would be considered a bargain.
My figures are NZ $ and costs but it seems like the US figures would be much the same. In short boats cost heaps and much more than you think. Sure the costs are less if you do as much as possible yourself. That involves learning a lot of skills and many times the amount of time you estimate, like 4 days to remove the varnish from a cabin sole. Just saying.
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
I would suggest that any boat between 35' and 40' in your price range is going to need more than a new head, laminates, and headliner. Unless it has been replaced recently (not likely at the prices you are thinking of) the rigging will need replacing and probably turnbuckles as well. If the electrical is original ditto. And there are items like soft decks which most boats have somewhere. Your 10k won't go far. Better to look for a boat that is newer and in better shape for more money that needs less.
BTW - this original topic was just about refitting the interior and had specified the boat has having good bones, i.e., not requiring engine replacement, not needing new running rigging, not needing new decks, or any combination thereof.
When buying this boat I can wait as long as necessary to find the right one but when that time comes I don't want to flake out because the wife doesn't like the cushions.
Headlinings are quite easy to install. I would not put in the automotive type with fabric from one end to the other. Epoxy in strips of plywood from side to side about every 18" and small panels covered with whatever you choose for looks. I am using laminate covered 1/8" ply. The panel seams are covered by hardwood attached with screws. This allows for removal of only a small section for accessing deck hardware or wiring. You can insulate as well with 1/2" closed cell foam easily. Here's a link to an interior redo of a Nicholson 31 from Atom's site and a pic from the same site below.
Atom Voyages | Nicholson 31 Refit
Originally Posted by zboss View Post
I am not too concerned about the headliners. While looks are fairly important to me I believe that accessibility will prove more important in an older boat. So, with that said, while I might be handy enough to pull off wood strips of bamboo, I think that my inclination to sand and paint the cabin top white and be done with it.
Boats with headlinings often run the cables up there too.
However not all boats are rough as the CSYs I looked at had tops that were pretty fair and painted up nicely; one even had 'trompe l'oeil' art work everwhere.
Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
Yes everything is ran to a clutch vs a cam cleat or equal. I personally found teh spinlocks I am using to be the better/best bang for the buck, and makes sure things stay locked in place. The only real issue I have, is the ones for the main and jib I use the most, seem to be starting to slip, so not sure if it is inside the mechanism, and need to get a recam kit and fix, or go to the next higher lb ability clutch for those high lb/strength needed items.
I mostly sail out of edmonds, will be at shilshoal for the styc fall/winter ragatta in Oct. Boat will probably sail in FWB, I'll be on RC as PRO.
Sorry everyone for the small hijack...
Yeah, doesn't seem like there's a clutch made that will hold a main or jib halyard well over time. Have this problem on our boat and another boat I sail on regularly. On the other boat, we're thinking about using two clutches in line on the jib halyard. Maybe we'll see you out at the styc fall race day!
|I would suggest that any boat between 35' and 40' in your price range is going to need more than a new head, laminates, and headliner. Unless it has been replaced recently (not likely at the prices you are thinking of) the rigging will need replacing and probably turnbuckles as well. If the electrical is original ditto. And there are items like soft decks which most boats have somewhere. Your 10k won't go far. Better to look for a boat that is newer and in better shape for more money that needs less.
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