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it has been found that most electronics, even a phone in plane mode can interfere with a beacon in search mode if the electronic device is closer than 18" to the beacon.
When im out exploring i like to track my route with the gps on my phone, phone goes in the pack, beacon is in the bib pocket. Right around 18" apart but doesnt seem to cause interference when other check my beacon.
|Everything I have seen is that the smart phones and other devices have more of an effect on beacons that are in receive mode, not transmit. This whole electronic interference thing is something new that is just now getting addressed. I don't blame the cat operators at all for making this requirement.
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the guides at the cat operation i recently went to near fernie asked us to leave our cell phones in the cat or put them in airplane mode while we rode. they told us the newer smartphones in the last few years have been known to interfere with beacon signals, and these were recent year mammut pulse barryvox beacons we were using.
|the guides at the cat operation i recently went to near fernie asked us to leave our cell phones in the cat or put them in airplane mode while we rode. they told us the newer smartphones in the last few years have been known to interfere with beacon signals, and these were recent year mammut pulse barryvox beacons we were using.
I don't care for analogs at all. I've had people argue with me that they can search faster with them than with out. I smoke them by minutes every time doing a search. Bobski, our old lead instructor instructor had a flat out challenge to anyone with an analog to try to beat him locating beacons. He could find four in under four minutes. No one every came close.
So yeah, I am skeptical with the analog guys. I've actually given them my beacon to use for the day and used their's on an occasion or two. Since I am practiced with analog beacons, and I wanted them to be able to find me fast...
I remember reading somewhere that they both had older style beacons (CAIC report maybe?), so frequency drift may have been an issue. But shouldn't a trailhead beacon check determine if there was an issue? Or can drift happen between the time they hit the trailhead and the accident? I'd imagine that wouldn't be possible.
Not gonna lie, I do feel a bit nervous when I head out with someone sporting an older beacon. NWMC where I took my Level 1 class doesn't allow the older analog styles at all. It seems some people still prefer the analog style because that's what they're used to I guess. I've never used one before so I don't have any first hand experience.
yeah the beacon signal issue was odd?
In theory the two signals could be pinging at the exact same time, but at 457hz that would be hard to imagine. I wonder if they were using a multiple burial feature to block the first signal and it was blocking both? I notice that it can take up to 30 sec for my dsp to separate signals and indicate when multiple beacons are close by.
Frequency drift caused by an older beacon? nice feature on the dsp is that you can check other beacons to ensure they are still operating on 457hz.
|Good question Zag. I have no idea. From the sounds like the beacon was turned off to me, but they don't explicitly state that either. Regardless, when you are that close in, that shouldn't be much of an issue. A few things come to mind. That person may have had a cell phone on, Go Pro/POV device, or other electronic device. Could have also been a compatibility issue with the beacon, or maybe it was getting out of flux. Hard to say. I am sure CAIC will follow up on it with their findings once they have put more time into it.
Saw your link on FB to this article on Saturday. Pretty heavy read, glad the guy made it out alive.
One thing I'm wondering is if they had trouble isolating the two signals, did they turn off the beacon on the guy they found first and still have trouble with the second signal?
Well balanced journalism
Read these two articles in reverse order. Seems like the original report was updated to maybe not be quite as crappy, but this recent piece was really well done.
I know next to nothing about life in the BC, but thought that the accounts of how it went down and the stories from the various parties told a balanced tale. Seems like its hard to find that kind of unbiased reporting these days. I'm not sure I'll ever be a BC or even sidecountry caliber boarder, but articles like these are a great way to get a glimpse into all the aspects that go into it. Well done and thanks to Killclimbz for sharing it. It is sad, but there's something to be said for living life to its fullest, and for doing something you love to the end.
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Great Britain go in search of a quarter-final place on Wednesday when Uruguay visit the Millennium Stadium.
Arsenal midfielder Aaron Ramsey is expected to keep his place in midfield after an impressive performance in Team GB's 3-1 victory over UAE on Sunday.
Captain Ryan Giggs scored the game's opener, before Scott Sinclair and Daniel Sturridge made sure of all three points to boost Stuart Pearce's side's hopes of progression to the knockout stages.
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Aaron Ramsey came off the bench with a strong 28-minute cameo against Senegal in Great Britain's opening match of the tournament but won back his place instantly to play the whole of Team GB's win over UAE. He'll be hoping for more of the same again tonight.
Uruguay head into the match with three points after beating UAE, but suffered a 2-0 defeat to Senegal. While a draw would ensure Great Britain's place in the quarter-finals, they will be going for a win against a Uruguay side who must claim maximum points if they are to progress.
Up front for Uruguay will be Liverpool striker Luis Suarez and highly-rated Napoli forward Edinson Cavani - although neither are yet to score in the competition.

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Levy County Sheriff Bobby McCallum administers the oath to two new Levy County Jail Corrections Officers, Tyler Bereti, left, and Zachary Hinkhofer.
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Not sure, but from the description of the location of the group of shots, the shot group itself sounds fairly large. A scattered (large) shot group usually indicates the shooter is applying the fundamentals inconsistently, which is VERY common for new shooters. The fact that your group is not centered can be directly related to the size of the group; if you apply the fundamentals correctly for every shot, the group of shots will be much smaller, and you be able to more accurately see where the center of the smaller group is located. Also, incorrect application of critical skills like trigger control can move shots off to one side, or very low on target, leading you to believe the gun is not shooting correctly to center, when the problem is the shooter.
Concentrate on these items:
- A consistent grip on the handgun (hand in same location on grip, arm aligned with frame, firm handshake grip).
- Raise weapon to eye level, don't bend head down to see sights. Stand straight up, or lean slightly forward; DON'T lean back (very common).
- Correct sight alignment (top of front sight level with top of rear, and front sight centered in rear sight notch with equal amount of light on both sides).
- Correct sight picture (once sights are aligned, put top of front sight where you want the bullet to hit on the target, while maintaining the front and rear sight alignment). The sights are going to move around a little; get used to seeing it, it happens to everyone, and understand there's no way to stop it when shooting standing/unsupported. Just keep the front and rear sights aligned, and keep them as near the target center as you can.
- And finally, the most often messed-up fundamental -- trigger control. Squeeze the trigger slowly/smoothly all the way to the rear, WITHOUT moving the gun or distrubing the sight alignment. Many/most new folks get everything lined up properly, then jerk or slap the trigger, spoiling the alignment at the last moment, and "pulling" the shot off to one side, or low. You gotta squeeeeeeeze it. Here's the way to check your squeeze: if you KNOW when the gun is going to fire, you aren't squeezing the trigger, you're pulling it. Let the shot surprise you a little, and have faith that the shots will go closer to the center if you hold the sights as steady as you can and squeeze, vs. lining them up and jerking/pulling the shot.
Keep safety in mind at all times; it doesn't matter how good your score is/was if you shoot yourself or someone else. Don't worry about speed; as you get more practiced, speed will come. It's MUCH easier to teach a good/accurate shooter to speed up, than it is to re-teach a fast-but-poor shooter to slow down and hit the target. Once formed, habits are hard to break -- form good habits instead of bad ones, right from the start.
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DETROIT, Mich. (GreenBayPhoenix.com) – Junior Keifer Sykes (Chicago, Ill.) poured in a game-high 29 points on Saturday afternoon as visiting Green Bay (24-5, 14-2 HL) finished its impressive regular season in fashion, posting a 75-66 win at Detroit (13-18, 6-10 HL).
Detroit jumped out to an early 13-5 lead behind 10 early points from junior Juwan Howard, Jr., but Green Bay responded quickly. With the game tied at 25-25, Sykes drained a three-pointer to start a 12-5 run which put the Phoenix in front 37-30 at the break. Sykes scored 15 points in the first half to lead all scorers.
Despite trailing throughout most of the second half, the Titans battled tough and trailed just 59-58 with 4:30 to play. Sykes then made two three-pointers late in the shot clock as part of a 8-2 spurt.
In the final minute, the 5-foot-11 point guard scored Green Bay's final six points, including two on an emphatic windmill dunk with 23 seconds to play.
Sykes finished the game with 29 points on 9-of-17 shooting from the field and added four assists, three rebounds and two steals in 35 minutes. He knocked down a career-high five three-pointers on just eight attempts as Green Bay went 9-of-17 from long range.
Junior Greg Mays (Chicago, Ill.) and sophomore Carrington Love (Milwaukee, Wis.) each added 11 points, with Love dishing out six assists with no turnovers. Senior Alec Brown (Winona, Minn.) totaled nine points, five rebounds and three blocked shots. With 91 blocks on the season, Brown broke his own single-season blocks standard.
Green Bay heads back home to play host to the 2014 Horizon League Championship. Two second round games will take place at the Resch Center on Friday night, with the top-seeded Phoenix playing in the second semifinal at 8:30 p.m. on Saturday.
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Re: Amuse me, sailing small boat offshore.
Thanks I will check their story out. I like those Dana twenty fours.
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It's not just young people that are taking small boats on long passages.
This blog is from a couple of retired people that sailed their Dana 24 from the PNW to NZ. Karen and Jim's Excellent Adventure
Usually older people want more of the creature comforts of a bigger boat, but the adventurous don't let age set them back!
They were able to carry stores for 2 people on a 24' boat from Baha to the South Pacific Islands.
They have shipped the Dana 24, and themselves, back to San Francisco on a freighter, and they will continue their adventures in the PNW.
I thought it was a pretty good adventure.
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Hey northoceanbeach, at In Memoriam Walt Murray you can find downloads of a lot of interesting home built self steering gear info, might amuse yourself for a lot of rain days working out something suitable for your application. All the best to you.
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Thanks. I like your idea to sail 24-36 hours to test endurance. Ill do that next week.
A run up to Barclay Sound should give you a good practice run.
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Thanks. I like your idea to sail 24-36 hours to test endurance. Ill do that next week.
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Amuse me, sailing small boat offshore.
I wanted charm in not because I know it all. Frankly, I don't even have a keel boat in my life. I am just sailing other's boat.
Like you, I have been dreaming to sail solo around the world for about 10 to 15 years. I finally decided to pick keel boating in 2008. In the last three and half years, I have been crewing and captaining for other owners. In my own time, I soloed as much as I could in a "time shared" boat in the dark, in storm, in the rage. I often sailed non-stop for 24 to 36 hours to test my ability to stay alert and be self reliant. But I would not recommend anyone to do this, except my children. I know my children because I raised them.
A long time ago, an old salt has told me, I also heard that here and there. He says: There is no blue water boats, there is only blue water sailors. I really did not understand it for a long time. But I always remember his words and keep it in my heart.
Fast forward, in the recent months (within last 6 months), I have been sailing off-shore almost every months (900 to 2000 nm), a few them were back to back. I sailed in the most heavy displacement boats to the late model boats that everyone would laugh at as the dock side condo. But I have been lucky, all trip was successfully without any incidences.
Having sailed so many boats, I begin to realize "It is not the hammer, it is the carpenter". As for sailing, it is the captain skills and his leadership to work with the crews. It is not that simple and just because one can add a few more feet and a few more tons onto the boat. It will instantly give him a safer boat. If this is true, the big sailboats would be perished at sea. It is a false security.
Would I want to sail a 24 foot sailboat crossing the big pond, I don't think so. Why should I if I can have a bigger boat with better amenity.
The point I wanted to make is the "skills" is most important, including understanding the weather (most difficult), always have Plan B, C, D and E .... ready. With that, I can take a boat to the destination with the proper weather window. Backup up plans are needed. It is hard to solve the problem and find a solution when you are dead tired. Work out the road map in your head or/and on paper, stick with it. In the peaceful time, keep challenging your plan, adapt, improve and keep on sailing
Sailing is a passion. There is no glory in it. No one holds a gun to my head.
OP, good luck. It has been a great journey so far. Hope yours too.
Re: Amuse me, sailing small boat offshore.
Here is a pink boat that did a circumnavigation non-stop:
Ella's Pink Lady
Re: Amuse me, sailing small boat offshore.
I like the blog from the guy who simply the Alberg in Hawaii. Thanks for the link.
Pink boat sounds like it was an idea for that guy to raise some money to cruise more than anything else.
by following that it also said Angelina Jolie had her boobs cut off. That seems a little crazy but whatever.
Since I posted this post a month or two ago, the main things I have learned is that:
1. I think my boat could do it
2. I think I would have to have to have to have a windvane and a backup tiller pilot.
3. I am not ready. I think I need to finish this summer of cruising, then next summer buy a bigger boat in Miami and sail to the Bahamas, and from there I should be ready, not necessarily that I will go from there, I'm not sure about that yet, but I think that would be a good pace.
Re: Amuse me, sailing small boat offshore.
Thanks for the links, Alex. Wow, what a story. Glad to hear STYC is able to continue on with the regatta.
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Re: Amuse me, sailing small boat offshore.
This is the article that mentioned the fate of the boat:
Pacific Northwest Boating News: Pink Boat founder walks away, but regatta continues | Three Sheets Northwest
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Ok guys. I just finished up the vest I'm going to be using with the custom I'm building and am thinking about how to attach everything. I was thinking I would glue it on so that it wouldn't move around but I'm afraid if I glue on the collar and backplate I won't be able to get my head through.
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Green Bay Falls to Northern Illinois in First Road Match
By: Ryan Hartwig (@RyanHartwig)
DEKALB, Ill. (GreenBayPhoenix.com) - The Green Bay volleyball team suffered a 3-1 loss to Northern Illinois Tuesday night in its first road match of the season at Victor E. Court. The Phoenix falls to 1-3 on the year, while the Huskies, an NCAA Tournament team a season ago, improves to 2-3.
Green Bay battled back from a 22-18 deficit to take the second set and knot the match at 1-1, but it wasn't enough as the Huskies cruised in sets three and four to win 25-13, 22-25, 25-12, 25-15.
The Huskies started fast in set one, jumping out to a 5-1 lead following a kill by MacKenzie Roddy. A Lyndsay Zabkowicz (Oak Creek, Wis.) kill sparked a 7-3 Phoenix run that knotted the score at 8-8, but NIU went on a 10-2 run of its own to move ahead 18-10. Roddy's fifth kill of the set made it 21-11, and her sixth got it to set point at 24-12. A service error by the Phoenix ended the opening set with the Huskies coming out on top 25-13.
NIU seemed to be off and running again in set two, taking a 6-2 lead in the early going, but back-to-back kills by Leah Poel (Jenison, Mich.) and Zabkowicz started a 5-1 run that ended with Monica Anderson (Cottage Grove, Wis.) tying the set at 7-7. After Roddy put the Huskies back on top 8-7, Green Bay scored five of the next six points to take a 12-9 lead. The Phoenix gained its largest advantage of 15-11 following another Zabkowicz kill, but the Huskies took eight of the next 10 points to go back in front 19-17.
It looked as though the home team was on its way to a 2-0 lead when back-to-back kills by Roddy pushed NIU's edge to 22-18, but that's when Carmen Leitermann (Schofield, Wis.) came alive. The senior drove home two straight kills after an NIU service error to make it 22-21, forcing the Huskies to call a timeout. A kill by Anderson after the break tied it at 22-22, and two more Leitermann kills gave the Phoenix a 24-22 lead. Leah Van Zeeland (Kaukauna, Wis.) delivered the final blow to give Green Bay the 25-22 win and even the match at 1-1.
The Phoenix was unable to carry over the momentum into set three, as the Huskies started fast once again by scoring the first five points. NIU pushed its lead to 17-7 after a trio of kills by Meghan Romo, and eventually ran away with the 25-12 win.
Set four was more of the same, as the Phoenix found itself down 10-3 in the early going. Green Bay hung around, trailing 16-12, but the Huskies pulled away down the stretch to win 25-15 and secure the 3-1 victory.
Leitermann led the Phoenix in kills for the second consecutive contest, picking up 10 to go along with a pair of blocks. Junior setter Leah Poel (Jenison, Mich.) had a solid all-around match, registering 23 assists, 11 digs and seven kills. Roddy led four Huskies in double-figure kills with 19, while Alexis Gonzalez doled out 45 assists.
The Huskies out-hit the Phoenix .344 to .146 and finished with the advantage in kills (57-38), assists (51-35), digs (57-47) and blocks (17-7).
Green Bay is back in action next weekend at the North Dakota Classic in Grand Forks, N.D. - its first of three straight road tournaments. The Phoenix will take on Stephen F. Austin on Friday at 5 p.m., followed by the hosts from North Dakota on Saturday at 1 p.m. before wrapping things up against South Dakota Saturday evening.
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i don't wrap, but i did tape on some old horse blankets last year when we got nasty east wind. it was good for a couple of days. other than that, snow is a pretty good insulator. best use i have found for tar paper is blocking sideways rain from going under my migratory covers.can't buy into the top entrance. doesn't make sense to me. heat rises. to me upper entrance = more lost heat.
Bjornbee, I understand where you're coming from and can agree that what you say, in many areas, is legitimate. I know a lot of people, in other areas, that have never seemed to have encountered a serious excess moisture problem in their hives. But in other areas it seems moisture abounds. I guess I'm in one of those areas, as I've found Ventilation to be a prime consideration in overwintering bees. I years past, come spring, I've opened hive after hive that looked like they'd been flooded out from within, bees that had plenty of natural stores and weren't feed syrup. Over the years I've tried a lot of things and having a ventilation system has always proved to be more of an asset than not having one. I have my hives currently with open bottoms and a small vent (top entrance) in single digit weather, I guess we'll see how things turn out come spring.
I wonder if moisture control could be utilized for those wetter areas, by the use of some sort of particle board, or absorbent material. Something to lick up the moisture without the use of a top entrance or opening. Seems like if you could solve one problem, without creating another (Additional heat loss), than that would be more advantageous.
Burlap on top of the frames followed by an empty super filled with crumpled newspaper or hay works great.


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|Dr. Nobel Price "discovers" the law of gravity
|Air date
|December 2, 1983
|Season 15 (1983-1984)
|When Oscar discovers a letter B next to his trash can, Gilbert and Sullivan pop up to sing a song about the letter B, with cameos by Maria, Olivia (dressed as Carmen Miranda), Bob, and Barkley.
| Kids paint various things that begin with the letter B on a window (edited version)
Full edit--(First: Episode 0008)
|The Hines Brothers, Gregory and Maurice, demonstrate near and far.
| Lobster fisherman
(EKA: Episode 0966)
| Ernie and Bert: It's a sunny day at the beach, and Bert remembered to bring everything. Ernie, however, only brought an umbrella in case it rains... which it does.
(EKA: Episode 0334)
|A man uses a wheelbarrow to carry blocks needed to make a staircase.
| Ask Oscar
Bob fills in for Telly as Oscar shows how he would plan for a vacation. Oscar packs a suitcase, roughly exactly as Bob would, but when Bob lifts the suitcase, everything falls out though a torn side.
| Two pirates plan a voyage.
(EKA: Episode 1740)
| A bearded skier walks in the snow to create the word "ME"
Music: Joe Raposo
(EKA: Episode 0793)
|Sesame Street News Flash: Don Music tries to rewrite the "Sesame Street Theme". He succeeds and is joined by Little Chrissy and the Alphabeats.
| Two cavemen argue, each chanting "Me!" A large monolith bearing the word ME puts fear in both of them.
(EKA: Episode 1025)
Note: This sketch is was also used in The Electric Company.
|A man makes a shadow puppet of a laughing man.
| Big Bird talks about noses and beaks, and what his beak can do. He tells Olivia, "I'm awful sorry about your nose." (music button changed)
(EKA: Episode 1246)
| A car assembles itself.
(EKA: Episode 0810)
|Sesame Street Game Shows: The Count is a contestant on Beat the Time, where today's wacky stunt is to bring back two things that come from the sky before the time runs out. The Count has too much fun counting the seconds, but ends up bringing his thunder and lightning.
| A baby chick hatches from an egg. (Music: Joe Raposo)
(EKA: Episode 0757)
| Gordon and Luis cooperate to clean up a pile of litter with a dustpan and broom.
(EKA: Episode 1452)
| An old man recites a poem about the time he had the flu.
Artist: Bruce Cayard
(EKA: Episode 1448)
|A man and a little girl perform small aerobic workouts.
| Muppet & Kid Moments: Herry and two kids eat apples.
(EKA: Episode 1056)
|Nine sheep (Swedish)
| Waiter Grover: Grover tells Mr. Johnson the menu, which has the items numbered. Number nine is the special of the day. It turns out to be a real number nine, but Mr. Johnson doesn't want it. (It's medium rare, and he likes his nines well-done.).
(EKA: Episode 1453)
| Speech Balloon: L--Loud
(EKA: Episode 1201)
| Ernie buys a newspaper after hearing the newsboy yell out the headline: "Four People Fooled!" Ernie reads the paper, but finds no such news in the paper, making him the fifth fool.
(EKA: Episode 1186)
| Song: "If You've Lost Your L, Look Around"
Artist: Bruce Cayard
|A variety of cat-shaped objects walk in front of the screen.
| A small man tries to use a seesaw, but can't get his associate (a very large man) to go up.
(EKA: Episode 1276)
|Dr. Nobel Price is playing with his teddy bear, Newton, until he drops it, and notices something interesting; instead of falling up, it falls down. Olivia tries to tell him that gravity is responsible, but Dr. Price is determined to fully explore his "discovery" by dropping his teddy bear over and over again.
| A girl goes around the city to look for her lost kitty, and sees its image in a variety of signs and in nature.
Artists: Don Duga and Irra Verbitsky
|The Beetles perform "Letter B".
| A boxer explains the letter "B".
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| A boxer explains the letter "B". (Spanish remake)
(EKA: Episode 0381)
| An Anything Muppet lady reads the word BUG.
(EKA: Episode 1449)
| Joe Raposo sings Everybody Sleeps.
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|Late at night, Olivia finds Dr. Price after dropping his bear 10,963 times. Bob reads the sponsors, followed by the Barkley credit crawl featuring the nighttime version of the theme music.
- Lisa Simon directed this episode.
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|No im not running the digitals was going to but going to keep an older theme to the interior but by making my own speedo for the center in larger number form like the stock 57 truck but with my own font and, keep in mind im not building a daily driver lol and alli want to be visible is the speedo in the center and plan on running a borgeson cup style tack on the column real old school looking with matching tan face to speedo 5" gauge will be in console to montior engine, but with set up with seats and seating position it will be justttt fine lol
I think the only "problem" you might find with the placement is reading the gauges accurately...or are you going to use digigtal gauges?
I've driven CJ5's for years and the analog gauges are center mounted on a flat dash...but the gauge layout is designed such that it reads correctly only from the drivers position I'd think they were taking into account the angle of the view.
My Hudson also has center dash mounted gauges from the factory (w/2 glove boxes!) but I'm replacing the analogs with LCD's and digital gauges and adding a rotating Heads Up Display...
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|Next part to work on is opening the top of my hood the frnt is molded and is in flip form now but going to open it up like an early mercury have to brace in inner structure and open the hood and than a new radiator is order; any suggestions on a good radiator to hold up to close to 600 hp looking at a griffin alumin now or even a be cool, thanks GP
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Thanks a good idea but looking to make it a center justifcation for a simple clean look,
and will be using a 5" gauge with the four gauges water amp etc in the console to motior the big motor and still have a simple look, aswell the air ride controls will be hidden thanks for the input love al kinds of cool ideas lol later
The mock up looks great!
When you build the pieces you may want to tilt the center section along the vertical axis 1/16-1/8" towards the driverside to make reading the gauges easier...just a thought
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Cool love to help with your design if i can, its a little different when you draw everyday like myself, and being a designer its a little easier to invision some things before they take shape,
Whats your car look like now is it complete? and what style or era are you going with
because have to tell you those 36's are a really beautiful car to Begin with and i have seen some amazing 36's done but remember to be unique! Build it the way you like it and don't build it for judges or to plz other people.
The steel wheel look is huge on these cars if you go to a big billet wheel you are really roped in to that style through out the car witch i love as well air ride etc but a nice low stance clean looking ride will turn just as many heads and back to the interior! do some research and look at alot of different styles of interiors in cars some of the oddest cars had great dashes like hudson, tucker, even ramblers so good luck love to help if i can
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hummmm...you've given me some things to think about....the proportion issue had already come to mind and I was thinking of perhaps only doing the vette hump on the driver's side.
I like your idea on two tone paint....giving thought to mine as well...flat black over a burnt orange.
Again....love your car...the simple lines, the blimp body, and plenty of power will absolutely make this one a winner.
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Thanks, and as for an amateur i am one this is my first custom build i have built other cars but none to the extent as this one ecs in the modifacation dept. So am a 36 yo rookie aswell, an early model vette dash as cool actually all vette dashes are only thing you have to watch with a 36 coupe like other 30's is there really short so to try to put double dash humps in will look really unproportional, the best advice i can give is just get out a pencil and paper and a pencil with a good eraser lol
and just sketch ideas even if you cant draw just do rough sketches and try different looks i have done a ton of drawings to get my dash layout witch i still may do some changes to
aswell as my consle and roll cage and rear deck area behind seat. Alot od people overlook the interior in the overall design itrs really important that it flows well with the theme of the car heres a few photos of my car i worked on it alittle tonight i got the frnt clip back on it and the frnt bumper mocked up love to answer any more ?'s later GP
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Cool Dash...No mistaking where the idea originated. I'm would like to build a dash for my 36 Ford Coupe when I get to that part of the build and I would like to replicate the old corvette style dash. In your opinion, is this something an amateur could do? If so, do you know where could I obtain pictures or measurements to use as a template?
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Thanks, and YES as for how i want it to look i do, and i like how you mentioned theme, I think thats the biggest word in building alot of people leave out of there builds, so important that things overall look good togehter, as for mine looking to build a high end detailed custom that really hauls ***, engine will be a 415 SB chevy with 350 tans with value body and 3,500 stahl
Body i think im going to close up my keys holes and leave off my window vents but the window trim and orginal door handles will go back on
of course smooth no holed bumpers and i plan on keeping the orginal grill i think people work so hard to try and make there grilles so custom the screw them up i liek what GM did in there erea with design on some elements and what i dont like i change lolcolor wow really not sure dont want a fancy color although burgundy pearl sounds nice leaning toward maybe a two ton along the windsheild down the body line to the back style color seration maybe black and a champange or black and a olds school green hell even thought of doing it the orginal color green aswell
But being an artist you would think i would have this drawed up by now but than again thats the proble being a designer i have changed color design 20 times lol
but as for the body clean super smooth and staright with a flavor of the forty's ecs with the old school wheels like the americans or halibrands good chatting later George
I love the way you are smoothing everything. I think your ride will be sweet.
Thanks for the kind words on mine. I feel 90% of the fun is in the building. I never understood how people can be proud of buying someone elses work.
Do you have any ideas of how you want yours to look when done? Any theme?
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|I was inspired by your journal so i decided to build my own maybe this will be easier to see lol thanks http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...65&action=view
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|Great photos loveeee the project looks really sick sitting low nice work great to see alot of ingenuity in a build and one done by them selves instaed of a big buck shop doing it agin sweet ride!
|I started a build journal with pics. Here's a link. http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ebaker%20XXIII
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OMAHA --- Only in the game of baseball could a game-winning play go largely unnoticed. Walk-off hits by Cody Stubbs and Skye Bolt in recent days were easy to spot and those players deservedly got much of the postgame attention. But following Tuesday's 5-4 win over South Carolina that saw UNC advance to the College World Series for the sixth time in eight seasons, the man who drove in the fifth and final Tar Heel run was not on the podium.
Parks Jordan didn't have a hit or score a run Tuesday. In three plate appearances, he never got the ball out of the infield. But his eight-pitch walk after falling behind 0-2 to South Carolina closer Tyler Webb scored Bolt from third with what would prove to be the run that sent the Tar Heels back to Omaha.
Carolina's first four runs were certainly scored in more spectacular fashion. Brian Holberton clubbed just the second Tar Heel home run of the postseason to score a pair in the second. Colin Moran exorcised a fair amount of postseason frustration with a run-scoring triple in the sixth. Moran then scored when Bolt pushed the envelope to take an extra base and South Carolina first baseman Kyle Martin skipped a throw into right-center.
From there, a classic baseball chess game ensued. With Bolt on third with one down, South Carolina brought the infield in and got the sharp grounder it desired for the second out. Holberton then worked the count to 3-1 against big lefty Adam Westmoreland, and the signal came from the visitors' dugout to issue an intentional ball four and put Holberton on base.
Westmoreland missed the mark on four straight to No. 8 hitter Mike Zolk to load the bases, prompting South Carolina to summon Webb from the bullpen for the second time in the series. The senior lefty had saved 17 games for the Gamecocks in 2013 and was looking to keep this one tied.
"I was telling myself I was going to be up in a big situation and to be ready for it and to want that," Jordan said Wednesday. "I'm the type of player that wants to be in the batter's box when the game's on the line."
Webb, who will head to the professional ranks as the all-time leader in appearances at South Carolina, took the loss in game one of the series due in part to Jordan's lead-off single in the ninth.
"I knew they were gonna change pitchers and bring in Webb," Jordan said. "He's one of the best lefty relievers in the country. When he came in, Coach Jackson came over and we talked about him. I'd gotten a hit off him in the first game, and I went in there with the approach that he was gonna try to get ahead early with the fastball."
Webb did just that, painting the outside corner for strike one and then elevating a fastball out of the zone for a swinging strike two.
"I didn't get a good swing and got behind, and then spread out and shortened up and tried to work my way back into a count, and I did, luckily."
After missing high on 0-2, Webb came back in the zone with a fastball that Jordan fouled back.
"It's a skill," Jordan said of a hitter's ability to spoil an out-pitch. "You hear about hitters being 0-2 in a count and sitting on a pitch, expecting him to throw something soft. But at the same time if he tries to zip that fastball in on you like he did to me that was kinda high, you cast your hands at it and nick it off foul."
Webb missed high and away with a breaking ball on 1-2 and then missed low to run the count full. After another foul ball on a high fastball, Jordan took the eighth pitch of the at-bat - a fastball just off the inside corner - for ball four to score Bolt with the eventual winning run.
"You tell yourself, 'I'm putting this ball in play somewhere, he's not gonna strike me out.' You've gotta have that mindset, you've gotta say, 'I'm moving the ball on the ground and I'm gonna run as fast as I can down to first base,' and a lot of times if you have that mindset, it works to your advantage."
None of the 24 Carolina outs Tuesday were recorded via the strikeout. It was the first time UNC had done that in 2013 and it was the first time since at least 2003 that Gamecock pitchers had failed to strike out an opposing batter.
"That's our approach as an offense," senior Chaz Frank said. "We know we're not the biggest team and we're not gonna hit the most home runs, but we want to have more walks than strikeouts and that's our goal every year. We don't really talk about average all that much. We talk about quality at-bats, and if you have a quality at-bat, if you go deep into a count."
"Walks are good," head coach Mike Fox said. "The guys are probably getting tired of hearing me say that, but we talk about walks to strikeouts and knowing the strike zone. I think that's so important. An umpire, if he's consistent, he'll give you his strike zone the first inning or two. That's where hitters need to talk to pitchers and pitchers to hitters, and that's where I think Parks' experience really helped him in that at-bat. He's very calm, and he's confident, and I've gotta have somebody in the box at that time that's exhibiting those traits."
Fox called Jordan's walk the epitome of where the 2013 Tar Heels are offensively. Carolina has a .409 team on-base percentage led by Landon Lassiter's eye-popping .502 mark. Six of UNC's regular starters have at least 30 walks this season, and Moran is third in the country with 61.
"It's just the type of players we recruit, that our coaches try to recruit," Jordan said. "We're just scrappy guys. That's what it's all about, that's the type of baseball we like to play, and I think that's the best type of baseball. You've got to go out there and compete as best you can."
Now, thanks in no small part to Jordan's under-the-radar heroics, Carolina will be competing on the biggest stage in college baseball.


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Sorry, Dre. Condolences to you and your extended family.
Sorry to hear that Dre. The game itself was overshadowed by the Rodman ceremony. Pistons are officially eliminated from the playoffs but this was all about the Worm. Huge ovation for Isiah and boos rained down on Mrs D and Joe. Is the door going to be open for Isiah to return in some capacity? Dennis was great. Ripping John Salley for being drafted ahead of him and getting very emotional. I thought it was interesting that both Jack McCloskey and Rodman gave a lot of credit to Mike Abdenour for treating the Asthma. Really nice to see all of the old timers there.
Sorry to hear that, Dre.
Dre, my thoughts are with you and Mrs. Dre.
I'm not buying anything, that's the rules.
Yeah Dre, as everyone has said sorry to hear about your loss. Be well. I thought I heard some boos aimed at Zeke also. You know you got a good ceremony going when Mrs. D comes off well. The shots of her crying when Rodman showed her the t-shirt with Mr. D on it was pretty good. I thought the boos aimed at Joe et al were inappropriate given the circumstances. It is funny how Zeke still gets the final say on all things Pistons despite Joe's title on the masthead. Isiah is such a competitive guy that he always looks like he is 15 seconds removed from killing someone. Rodman should have worn a dress for the tribute and Pearl Jam should have played. I like Monroe a little less now for continuing to wear #10. Have some respect.
I think the Pistons should go all out and let Terrico White wear #11. Isiah said he wouldn't mind.
Perhaps Isiah should just make a comeback....
Some good Rodman quotes: Dennis Rodman says he'll be inducted in Hall of Fame; Detroit Pistons retire his jersey - ESPN Chicago
Hey man, I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope that process is as painless as possible for you and please pass on my condolences to your wife as well. Take care, my man.
One of his nicknames was the "Smiling Assassin". I think the boos are great. It was Rodman's night, not Joe's. Joe has been the architect of a pretty lousy basketball team, and the fans pay damn good money to remind him of that.
I feel a little less hatred (no, that's not the word I want) I feel a little less angry at Karen D after watching her last night. I was trying to keep my eye on her and I swear I saw some geniune feelings on her face for Dennis and when he gave her the shirt with her husbands picture on it, her face showed genuine gratitude. I felt she was truly missing Mr D last night, and felt sorry for her for the first time. I will no longer think of her like I have been, money hungry, impatient somebody who couldn't wait to unload this team before her husband was even cold in the ground. ANd Dennis was great. I wish Bill Lambieer could have been there too.
Great post, Susie. I agree with everything!!
combine that with her comments about feeling out of control over the sale of the team we've seen in the last week.... Either she's one hell of an actress, or if she had her way the team might have been sold in her time statement (by the start of last season) if not for Stern. I am wanting to think its more the later now... Nice post
Go to nba.com. Then go to video highlights and search for dennis rodman jersey retirement. I watched the whole ceremony from them. The whole thing took about 23 minutes. Enjoy. Sorry to hear that, Dre. My condolences to you and your family, of course.
I think Isiah knows very well that Dennis is going into the HOF. He's the insider that got the news 1st hand that the press was mentioning about all this while. Isiah still has a lot of connection, therefore I'm not surprised. I think Isiah wants to ensure that Dennis goes into the HOF as a PISTON. That's is why he has to remind the Worm that in his speech. And by doing this, he's indirectly forcing Dennis to agree with him in front of all the Piston fans. Anyway, I doubt that Dennis will do otherwise even if Isiah has not remind him that. Like Spider Salley, Dennis is a PISTON.
i couldn't hear boos for joe d or isiah. next to rodman, isiah got the loudest ovation and you can just tell being a piston meant everything to him. karen davidson was vehemently booed though when she was first introduced.
It is interesting that Mrs. D has allowed the team to flounder so badly given her emotions during the ceremony. It sure seems like it means something to her. In some way it would have been nice for Isiah to admonish the crowd for booing her. (Never thought I'd type that.) Here is a pretty good piece on what ails the Pistons now at least vis a vis The Bad Boys. I don't picture this happening now. Pistons in desperate need of players with 'Bad Boys' attitudes | detnews.com | The Detroit News
I just can't give KD a free pass. It's her team and she is ultimately responsible for all that is wrong. She has failed to make a public statement, and just allows the bumbling to continue. I'm happy that the crowd showed their displeasure. A history of fondness for certain players does not excuse from her responsibility as an owner.
I may be getting too old for this NEW Forum crowd, but.. they were not booing JOE DUMARS...weren't they saying "DUUUUUU!!!"..? like the old says?
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From that point on, the rest are options with minimal support, SeaMonkey and Swiftfox both gathering 6 votes while Epiphany and Internet Explorer through WINE get 4 votes each. I have to say I am surprised that IE got any votes at all. It is slow and reportedly not secure, and I think that can only get worse through WINE, but still some people appreciate it.
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I've searched the forums and looked at a lot of reference photos. As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between Pre-Production 2,ESB and ROTJ gauntlets is the flame unit on the left gauntlet. The right gauntlet seems to have been the same in all three, except for color, of course. Can anyone help clarify this? I've been using poster-board and making mock-ups of these using WOF's ever-useful templates. I just want to verify before I get further into this. My plan is to make the gauntlets out of poster-board then overlay it with fiberglass mat.
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Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports Central' started by coynejeremy, Aug 17, 2010.
I was dead and I stayed dead.
That's the whole purpose of the game...when you dead, you dead.
Vinny has the power to stay alive.
Well, Vinny picked the Chargers in week #1, so he better make himself dead.
Vinny is in it to winny.......... He's still there Saturday, AM...Go Vinny...
There is one other guy, sidewinder, that is not dead even though he picked the Browns last week.
Sidewinder has high morals...he has not made a pick for this week. Go Vinny...
Webz is dead but he made another pick...
Haha yeah. It didn't kill me straight away so I picked again, then they killed me. Stupid Niners! Thats pretty bogus that 2 people got a 2nd chance. That would never happen in the PF.com league!
I wonder what other flaws are in Vinny's program.
Sidewinder was able to pick the Eagles today, so he's in like Vinny...
Someone should contact the guy and ask what's going on.
I sent Vinny an email.
Good job, detteam. Vinny and sidewinder are dead. I wonder what would have happened if he wasn't called out....
Vinny want to live but was hoisted by his own petard.
I mentioned sidewinder in my last email to Vinny but it looks like he's still alive.
That's exactly why I didn't join his league and I am so glad I didn't. It's a bunch of crap. Always the games. I like our league. Nobody is going to cheat you there (although it is very odd that Rascoe is still alive with no strikes and we are already going into week 3)!!
Sent another email: "Looks like sidewinder is still in the game" Vinny replied: "Not anymore. Now I gotta figure out how it keeps getting reset." Sounds like he's still working through glitches with TPG after having it dumped in his lap last season. Was a bit skeptical last year but I'm pretty certain now that he's not trying to rig anything. Jump in and make your picks to help keep PF on top
Sidewinder back on top as his week 3 pick of the Patriots wins.
That's strange. He had a red "x" by his name earlier in the week. After the first 9 games of the picks game, 3 of our group are 6-3 and the other 3 are 5-4.
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Ride on RFT's sucks...
You don't realize it so much until you change over to the non-RFT'S!
I just switched over to my winter setup... and realized how much better the ride was. The feeling lasts for a day or two, as your mind adapts to it! After that, it feels like it is "normal"!
Guess, once I switch back to my summers, I will not like the ride very much... but soon get used to it. Have to thank our ability to adapt.
I ditched runflats for both summer and winter. I know what you mean!
RFT's have improved. On my last car they feel significantly better than previous. So I decided to go for runflats even for the winter setup.
The current generation of Pirelli PZeroes and Michelin PS2s are not bad at all---vastly better than RE050s.
Well - I have the Goodyear NCT's as the RFT and the Michelin X-Ice XI2 non-RFT's as the winter setup. I am more inclined to go non-RFT with my summer's once the Goodyear's run out.
No matter how good the RFT's are, I just don't believe that they will ride as well as the non-RFT's. Just by belief... based on the product brief handed out to RFT tires.
I am more inclined to carry a donut spare - for long distance journeys. Currently, I would throw in the summer or winter as a spare, when I travel out of town, but that ends up taking too much space in the small boot. But most of my driving is within the city, so I am completely comfortable with a regular tire and no spare.
My car is fitted with the Dunlop RFTs. Only one thing to say: They are perfect. Stable and sticking to the surface under any conditions, no matter how poor the road is or how sharp the turns are.
Because of the low profile (35 and 30) you can feel it when driving over small stones or poorly repaired asphalt. No tyre can absorb that with such a profile. I don't see it as a problem either.
Out of curiousity what is the price difference between RFT and non RFT in Europe/Aus? Over here in the US you can buy a set of 4 non RFT's for the price of 1.5 RFT's.
Well - Norway may be special then in that either the non-RFT's are overpriced, or the non-RFT's are priced to compete.
Here in the US - for my winter setup, the Bridgestone RFT's are about 30% more than my non-RFT Michelins. Also, I could only find the performance winter tires in the RFT version, whereas, I can find both performance and more extreme studless ice and snow versions. I wanted the latter... I was thinking of the extreme case, where I want maximum possible grip in the worst conditions... I am sure Hakka makes a tire that is both RFT and studless ice and snow... but that tire would run at least double.
But the price is only half the story...
By all anecdotal evidence, the RFT's have about half to 2/3's the service life of the non-RFT's. I hear most people with RFT's change their tires around the 20K mark. On the other hand, I can expect my non-RFT's to last at least 30K miles... and perhaps upto 40K.
So what do I give up? Some peace of mind about surviving a scary situation where the tire blows out... but even there, the jury is out on whether the RFT's are more susceptible to a blow out when you hit a pothole of a big bump (due to its stiffer side walls) then the more compliant non-RFT's. Given the road conditions around Chicago, my belief is that, this could be a significant factor, and I take that into account while driving. I am more careful about potholes on RFT's then when I am not on RFT's.
As far as getting a puncture is concerned... I have had one in the last 8-9 years. So - a slow leak is a total non issue. The pressure monitor will give me enough of a heads up!
What do I gain... a better ride (and I am not comparing a 30 or 35 aspect tire - choosing that sort of tire already identifies you as one who cares less about the ride; what I am talking about is a 45 or 50 aspect tire with some sidewall - in which case, there is a noticeable difference between a RFT and a non-RFT). Also - the tire is much cheaper in the long run, and I get a lot more choice... and any shop will fix it, in case of a leak.
A 17" Goodyear Eagle is 15% more expensive in RF version. As I see it this is a typical difference.
There you got it!
Well - then Norway certainly is a different market then the US.
I just checked the summer tires too... and if I were picking a Summer tire for my 128i today, it would probably be the Bridgestone S-04 Pole Position ($676 for a set of 4 - 280 Wear Rating, Y speed rating) or the Continental ExtremeContact DW ($552, 340, W) - compare this to the Bridgestone RE050 RFT ($940, 140, W) and you see the situation here.
The RFT has a wear rating only half of its non-RFT Bridgestone counterpart... a lower speed rating... and it is 30% more expensive.
Compared to the Conti - which is one of the most popular tires on tirerack - it has a wear rating only 40% as good, and is 70% more expensive... PHEW!!!
So - compared to the Conti - I would get a tire that wears out in half the time - and costs double as much (if I made a quick mental math type of rule). So - in truth it is 3-4 times as expensive.
My price examples are Goodyear Eagle summer tires, dimension 225/50-17 fitting BMW F10. so probably the dimension is different from your example. But anyway:
A set of 4 "normal" costs NOK 5700 = USD 981.
A set of 4 RFT tires costs NOK 6600 = USD 1136 (+ 15.8%).
These are prices from a large net shop. Prices through BMW dealers would probably be like 20% higher.
I understand all your arguments against RFT. And indeed this year is the first that I drive RFT even during winter. But only on my F12, not the Mini. I wanted to try it out since I was so content with the tires that sat on the new car.
I was very hesitant to switch to non-RFTs on my 650. However, I ultimately switched to Michelin Pilot Sports last year and I must say the difference was immediately noticeable.
Also, when I had the new tires put on, the service tech had me pick up a new Pirelli RFT (actually hold it in my hands....) and compare the weight to non-RFT Michelins. The difference was significant. His opinion was that not only would I feel a smoother ride on the non-RFTs, I might also see improved MPG. I did--According to the OBC on essentially the same roads/mileage for a six month period, my MPG average went from 19.9 to 21.
The tech did say that the RFTs have proven to perform better on hard cornering. That's not something I do a lot, so it was less important to me.
Hmmm - I am checking TireRack.com - an online retailer here in the US, that is very competitive in its prices, and one that I bought my Winter Tires from.
The base 17 size is available for the 528 only. But in that version, I could not find a Max Performance Summer tire - to compare I have used the All Seasons - from Goodyear.
The RFT is the Goodyear Eagle LS2 ($912, 400, V) vs. the non-RFT is the Goodyear Eagle GT ($528, 440, V). So, in the case, there seems to have been some progress in the RFT - as in the wear rating has improved considerably... and it is only about 10% worse. But it is still 70% more expensive.
For the 18 size, you do get Max Performance Summers (where the Michelin Pilot Super Sport currently rules the roost). We can get the Michelin PSS - i.e. the currently best rated tire - for $1108 for a pair of 4 (. For a more even comparison, we can look at similar rated tires from the same brand (I read somewhere, the wear ratings are not so comparable across brands).
So -
Dunlop SP Sport Max GT DSST RFT ($1436, 240, Y) vs. Dunlop SP Sport Max TT non-RFT ($712, 240, Y). The tires are rated similar in wear and speed... but the RFT's are double the price.
Bridgestone RE050 RFT ($1300, 140, Y) vs Bridgestone RE050 non-RFT ($1012, 140, Y) - this is the closest - similar rating and only a 30% difference in price over the lifetime of the tire.
But even with the Bridgestones, the tire to buy is not the RE050. Instead, you can get their latest and greatest - the S-04 Pole Position ($916 , 280, Y). This has double the wear rating and is cheaper than the older RE050 (a circa 2005 tire). And lets not forget - the current benchmark - the Michelin Pilot Super Sport ($1108, 300, Y)...
@ Zeke77
I have had a similar experience with my winter vs. summer tires. I see slightly improved fuel economy... but I could not be sure if it was because of the low rolling resistance Green X branded Michelins... or because of the weight of the tire.
But the lighter tire has certainly got to help with the unsprung weight - and the better ride.
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