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LOUDONVILLE, N.Y. — The Canisius women's basketball team shot 57.4 percent, its highest field goal percentage in the last 20 years, and closed the game on a 25-9 run to come from behind for a 75-66 win at Siena College on Sunday afternoon. The Golden Griffins improve to 8-12 overall and 4-7 in the MAAC.
Junior Kayla Hoohuli matched her career high with 19 points, including eight straight points in the final 90 seconds to put the game away. Freshman Lauren D'Hont scored 11 points, all in the second half while sophomore Crystal Porter had 13 points and five assists. Sophomore Tiahana Mills had eight points, six rebounds and six assists, posting at least six assists for the sixth time this season.
The 57.4 field goal percentage was the seventh-highest in the program's Division I history and highest since Jan. 12, 1993, when the Griffs shot a program-record 61.1 percent. Canisius shot 64.3 percent in the second half, its highest field goal percentage in the second half in the last 13 years.
"We came out really strong but hit a little bit of a lull in the middle portion of the game," Canisius coach Terry Zeh said. "Once we stopped committing turnovers, we were able to get on a run and get open looks that we knocked down. Lauren and Kayla made some big-time shots and for us."
Siena (6-13, 1-9 MAAC) went up by seven, taking a 57-50 lead with 6:21 left before Canisius made its run. The Griffs scored on their last nine possessions and 13 of its final 15 possessions in the game while holding Siena to two field goals during the final six minutes. D'Hont drained her third 3-pointer of the half while Hoohuli made a 3-pointer with a hand in her face in front of the Canisius bench to make it a one-point game. The Griffs tied the game at 60-60 on a layup from senior Jamie Ruttle with 3:04 left.
The Griffs took the lead for good on two free throws from Mills, who made four free throws in the final 2:39. After another basket from D'Hont, Hoohuli would score eight straight points to put the game away. The junior made a 3-pointer and converted a three-point play on back-to-back possessions followed by two free throws to extend the lead to double digits and close out the Saints.
Tehresa Coles had a double-double with 25 points and 12 rebounds. Kelsey Booth scored 13 points as Siena forced 21 Canisius turnovers and had 15 offensive rebounds but couldn't overcome 34.4 percent shooting.
To start the game, Canisius drained 3-pointers on their opening three possessions and also used a layup from redshirt junior Courtney VandeBovenkamp to build a 11-5 lead just over four minutes into the game. The Griffs led by as many as 11 points in the first half, going up 18-7 after a three-point play from Porter with 11:21 left in the second half. Canisius shot 47.8 percent in the first half, but didn't maintain its early aggressiveness. The Griffs committed 13 first-half turnovers and Siena scored 17 of the final 20 points to take a 29-25 lead into the locker room.
Up and down action to start the second half with the Saints extending their lead to 36-29 before the Griffs used a 3-pointer from the corner from D'Hont and a transition layup from VandeBovenkamp to make it a two-point game. Siena kept trying to pull away, but the Griffs hung around with another 3-pointer in the corner from D'Hont make it 50-46 with 9:22 left.
Canisius returns to Western New York to face rival Niagara University on Wednesday night. Tipoff in the Gallagher Center for the Battle of the Bridge contest is set for 7 p.m.
Notes: Canisius ended a four-game losing streak at Siena, winning on the road in the series for the first time since 2009… In the last five games, Canisius is shooting 53.1 percent in the second half… Canisius scored 50 points in the second half, the most since scoring 52 at Iona last season… Canisius was 9-for-14 on 3-pointers, with the 64.3 percentage serving as a season-high… Mills had at least six points, six rebounds and six assists in a game for the fourth time this season… Canisius improved to 7-0 when scoring 60 or more points… Canisius committed 21 turnovers, but only two turnovers in the final 10 minutes… Porter scored in double figures in back-to-back games for the first time in her career.


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A Week in Limbo: Day 0
When ZaReason CEO Cathy Malmrose asked me recently who I thought would make good reviewers of the Berkeley-based company's hardware, I gave her a list of names of those I thought would give the hardware a good going-over. Selfishly, one of the names listed was mine, offered mostly in the finger-crossed hope that I'd be chosen to test the hardware and write about it here.
A few weeks after our conversation — specifically, on Friday — our friendly neighborhood UPS guy delivered a ZaReason Limbo 5440 desktop unit for me to put through its paces.
I'm grateful that they chose me, and the ZaReason folks know me too well: On the Limbo 5440 they had installed Fedora 16 (awww, thanks guys!)– ZaReason provides their products with a choice of distros, with the latest version of Fedora, Debian, Linux Mint or Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Mythbuntu/Edubuntu/Ubuntu Studio available, along with a "no operating system" option — so they know what I wanted off the bat.
This particular mid tower, a low-cost box starting at $499 which is built for expansion, was delivered with a plethora of upgrades: a Dual Core Intel i5-2500M (at a screaming 3.3GHz), 8 GB of RAM (DDR 3-1600) and three — count 'em, three — 500 GB drives turning a cool 7,200 RPM each. This particular model, with the additions, goes for $945.
So here's the deal: With this box in my possession for a week, I will use it until Christmas Day (as an aside, my daughter Mimi — the Ubuntu user in the family — will also use it and give her impressions as well) and write an item every day entitled, wait for it, "A Week in Limbo," Days 0 through 6, with the epilogue at the end serving as the wrap-up review of the hardware.
I've added a few programs that I would normally use during the course of my usual digital — LibreOffice, GIMP and XChat, for starters (more to follow, obviously) — and during the course of the week I'm also going to use other distros on the Limbo to see how it works.
Tomorrow, we'll take a look at some of the nuts-and-bolts features of the desktop, as well as some impressions of the Limbo 5440. Watch this space.
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HOW TO: Maintain your leather seats so they never crack or age.
Hey guys, I originally wrote this up as a "HOW TO" to maintain car seats. This write up works on all types of leather, asides from "Pleather" I mean to say.
Long story is, is that back shortly after high school I was detailer, so I learned this technique from an industry "guru" I guess you can call him.
Basically using this technique, you can prevent leather seats from aging/cracking. This way the seats will always shine like new. This can be applied to *anything* leather, even jackets.
Keep in mind; Leather is just cow skin. Unfortunately since there is no cow there to keep the leather moisturized: the responsibility is entirely on you.
Now as a disclaimer: to my knowledge there is no way to repair cracking. So if the seats are already cracked there isn't any way to repair them, short of replacing the section thats cracked/worn.
All this technique will do is prevent the cracks from spreading, and to keep new ones from forming. It will also keep the seats looking new just so long as you do this. For regular use this should be done at least twice a year. Ideally 4 times a year would be good. You dont have to do ALL the seats, but if your like me and are pretty much the only occupant in the car, its best you at least do the drivers seat (& steering wheel if leather wrapped) this many times. I'd do the rest of the seats maybe once or twice a year.
Anyway, a very dirty seat will look like this.
(First off I apologize for the ****ty Iphone pics)
(I bought the car used with seats looking like this if you're wondering)
Note its shiny appearance; thats exactly what you dont want. That means the seat is covered in dirt & grease. A seat should never look like this unless you put interior shine or whatever on it.
The thing is; nothing should be put on it short of the moisturizing cream/lotion. Chemicals just hurt the leather, so always keep things like Armor all (and the like) the hell away from leather.
Keep in mind that leather has pores, just like human skin. When dirt & filth fills them they cant breath, and thus the leather begins to dry out.
Also, by just gooping on the leather moisturizer onto a dirty seat; it has really no way of getting into the seats to do its job.
Which brings us to the first step.
Grab a scrub brush and some mild (non-acidic) cleaner. Obviously, dont use engine degreaser or anything of that sort (Yes I've seen people do that). I personally used Simple green as its quite good for this. If you're worried the stuff you have is bad for leather, try it on a wallet or something that you dont really care about before trying it on your car seats.
Just do a small section at a time, then quickly wipe it off. Almost all cleaners are harmful to leather so its best you get the cleaner off it as soon as you can. Also, this will prevent the dirt & chemicals from seeping back into the pores. So dont do the WHOLE seat then wipe it off. Do perhaps the bottom of the seat, then the sides, then the back (etc etc). Dont worry about using a fair bit of cloths/clean rags. Its better to use a lot (then wash them if you're using re-usable rags/cloths) then to be wiping the seats down with filthy rags, which basically doesn't do much of anything.
After your done, it should look like this.
Note its dull appearance, thats what you're looking for as leather shouldn't shine at all.
After all the seats (& steering wheel or whatever other leather bits you may have in your car) are clean we'll start moisturizing them.
For that, you can use a typical household sponge.
For moisturizers to use; the ones that are best have something called Lanolin oil in them. This oil is important as its the best moisturizing agent you can put on your seats. Dont bother with these "cleaner and moisturizer" types. You need to PROPERLY clean the seats, then moisturize the leather. These companies that try to combine them offer pretty bad stuff that doesn't work nearly as well as it should.
I really like "Production Detail supply" products. I find they're very good and always do a great job. Here is one product thats a cleaner & conditioner in one package.[************************************************** ******************************
Or if you want they also have this. It would take a LONG time to go through all this though, so if you have friends that would need this for their cars/trucks, I'd split this up with them.
And this
another one
and yes, Lexol is great, use that as well. Same with Connelly's Hide food.
here in Calgary we have these guys as a supplier for the products.
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They also do deliveries, with a mobile supply van. Call the number regarding that.
So once you have the lotion, apply it fairly thick.
^ Even thicker then that. Plan it out so that after you coat the seats, you can leave it sit for at least a few hours so the lotion can absorb. Dont wipe it down, as it needs time to be absorbed which at a bare minimum will be at least 4 hours. Basically if you leave the seat like this over night it should all be absorbed, and the leather will be fairly dry/non-greasy in the morning.
So like I say, do this at least a couple times a year, or whenever your seat gets that shine as the one in the pic had.
Doing this properly, the seats should never age, or at least minimally.
EDIT: If anybody is on any other car forums, please copy & paste this link so others can benefit from it. I dont mind answering questions or helping out people from all over the place.
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What you need to know about leather car seats is that unless you have a really high end car, the leather they use to make the seat covers is not very good quality. You are correct that really good quality leather breathes, but low quality leather has been processed on the outside and doesn't breathe at all. For the average leather car seat, anything you do to get the dirt and body oils off of the surface is good, but putting lanolin and other moisturizers on leather that doesn't breathe is a waste of time and money.
Good info as, I have never cleaned my leather or pleather seats but go through Lexsol by the gallons since all 5 cars have so called leather seats.
One thing I have always wondered is I was taught as a kid when I got a new ball glove to soak the thing in "neats foot oil" then put a ball in the glove and tie the glove with a rope tight and let it set for a few days, still have my last new glove from 10th grade and it is still soft as can be.
Would neats foot oil be better on a car seat then the Lexsol?
Always wondered but scared to try.
Does it matter for treatment if the seats are leather or pleather?
Any way to tell what the seat is made of?
We used to use Vaseline to form a pocket in a ball glove, and the object was not to soften the glove, but to create a hard "pocket" to catch the ball in. Don't use neetsfoot oil on your leather seats, or any other kind of oil. Oil won't evaporate, so you'll be getting it all over your clothes.
The only way to tell if your seats are leather or something else with some of the imitation leathers is to see the back of the leather or whatever.
Most leather car seats from the factory are not 100% leather. The "seating areas", in other words the parts that touch your body like the seat bottom and seat back, are leather, and the rest is matching vinyl.
That glove was never retreated but is was a good glove at the time and last played on a league when I was about 45-47 and the glove still is like new and you can still tell the oil is in it.
There is a possibility that when I went from hardball to softball I retreated it and tied a softball inside to make the glove pocket bigger but I just don't remember for sure.
When I get new work boots I treat with the neats foot before wearing and next time I will treat with it hot, did not know that, as In past i just would slop on.
Thanks for the info.
Barry: :welcome: Dont heat it over open flame!!!!!!!!!!! :pain: its flammable! Boil water in a big pot remove it from the stove and put a smaller container with the oil in it in the hot boiled water , or use a microwave not used for food! You probebly already knew that Barry but some reading this might try to heat it on a stove LOL :D !!!
Chris :thumbup:
Thanks to that well placed rule of "commercial advertising" :rolleyes:
The links I had for products were deleted, despite having absolutely no affiliation to any of them nor the companies that sell them. I was just trying point out good products that work.
Anyway, I'll list the good products to use here, and you guys can find them on any etailers website.
- Conolley's hide food
- Lexol
- Chemical guys - Leather conditioner
^ I have experience with all of them, and they work excellent for what were doing here.
Your post was edited because you put links, your phone number/and/or your e-mail address in your post.
The moderator who edited your post had no way of knowing if you were soliciting to sell products, offering a service, or both. Listing the products you recommend is fine, but you still can't put your phone number or e-mail address in your post.
^ The reason I did put my email is for other non-members on here. That way if they have questions they can just email them to me rather then sign up JUST to ask me about it.
No biggie there, but I've had a few people email me questions and whatnot that aren't necessarily on this forum, so I was just trying to save them time.
This site is run differently than a lot of the others. All you have to do is put your e-mail address and phone number in your profile and then refer people to your profile for that info. That is allowed by the rules.
The idea is to keep the tech forums clear of any clutter and anything that could be construed as advertising.
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Dan 2 lakes,
Do you know if this is real leather or fake??
When I redid this corvette it had what they called the leather option, so I ordered the seat covers from ecklers, as you can see, I have about three thousand miles on this car since I redone and the seats are very soft and you can see where it wants to wrinkle.
Never thought to look at the backside, just ***-u-med they were real leather as not real cheap.
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Barry: I have the same seat covers in my '77 Vette, but mine are blue. They are all real leather except for the cording, which is vinyl.
Thank you Dan, I had my doubts.
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Discussion in 'Moves In The Field' started by skate or die!, Jan 4, 2011.
What is the Swedish Star Evaluation? Its what my daughters competition will be judged on.
It's the lower level system they created which does not usually require professional judges, since the implementation of the CoP gave the Swedish federation problems with finding accredited judges for all of their competitions. It is used mainly for their C and B skaters.
I don't remember all of it, but their programs still have to have certain stuff in them, according to the testing system requirements for each level. Only the first half of the skaters will get a "proper" placement, the rest of them will come at a shared placement. Like if there are 12 skaters, the kids will be placed the first 6, the rest of them will be placed in 7th place.
There is also a "special price" given to one kid in each group for something they did, like nice spins, spirals, spread eagles, interpretation of the music, etc. This price is given by the "head judge" which has to be a judge with decent judging credentials. It can be given to any kid, regardless of placement. The judges (last time I was there, might have changed) are usually higher level skaters, or people with very low level judging accreditation that has not yet received their judging license.
One thing that is good about these competitions is that each skater gets a personal written evaluation made by the head judge. The star competitions are not as serious when it comes to technical strictness as the ones with professional judges, obviously.
I hope this helps.
It might make a difference what the competition is? If you are going there to an international competition it could be slightly different from what meierfan writes.
For instance I went a few years ago to Stockholm Trophy with a group and for all categories (including the ones that were judged by Swedish Star System) ALL placements were called out. I think that's an important thing to keep in mind if you are coming from a place that doesn't do that in certain categories and certain age groups. If you are coming from a place where every skater after the first 4 places are in "fifth place" then be prepared that if there are 30 children they may be called out in order of finish. Some of our girls were a bit when it happened
At this competition the following categories were judged with the Star system: Springs B girls, Cubs B girls and Chicks Boys and Girls. The program requirements and ages for those groups for Stockholm Trophy 2011are below. Even it you aren't going to this competition but another it should be the same.
Chicks Boys and Girls, born 2001 and younger:
Swedish Star Evaluation
Free program only, 2 min 30 sec +/- 10 sec
Program should include the following elements:
Minimum 4 different single jumps, Axel can be included
One jump combination or sequence with single jumps
Minimum two different spins
Spiral sequence or Step sequence
Double jumps are not permitted
Cubs B Girls, born 2000 and younger:
Swedish Star Evaluation
Free program only, 2 min 30 sec +/- 10 sec
Program should include the following elements:
Single jumps
Maximum of two different double jumps
One jump combination or sequence
Minimum two different spins
Spiral sequence or Step sequence
Springs B Girls, born 1999 and younger
Swedish Star Evaluation
Free program only, 2 min 30 sec +/- 10 sec
Program should include the following elements:
Axel and single jumps
Maximum two different double jumps
Jump combination or sequence free of choice
Three different spins including one combination spin
Step sequence or spiral sequence
As for the judging system itself I don't have it on this computer. Copy I received is from a few years ago and in another place but from memory I would say the main emphasis in on quality over quantity. They want to see something well done instead of attempts at something more difficult poorly done. The skater with decent skills, flow and nicely executed basic spins and single jumps will benefit against a skater who throws in an ugly double they rarely land or tries to hit difficult positions in spins that fail miserably. Of course if the difficult positions are well executed as well as the jumps that skater benefits. There are values and the coach travelling with the kids there should be aware of the program requirements so that they aren't throwing away points. For instance I recall one situation where the category the child skated in in their own country had a max of 2 spins and the coach never changed that. In the Swedish competition they entered they were allowed a max of 3 spins, would have been simple to throw in another spin at the end of the program. But that was a particularly stupid coach I know who took a lot of skaters over there and only paid attention to one Oh and the judges at this competition were different levels so you can get a mixture, probably because it is an invitational they try to use more experienced judges.
At the awards they called all skaters onto the ice in the order that they placed. All received a certificate for participation and a sheet with all the skaters placed in the order they finished. They also got a small gift ( hair accessories, maybe gloves, that sort of thing). The results weren't always published on the wall before the award ceremony so it wasn't always known until the kids hit the ice where they placed and it was sort of seeing the faces of some kids as the numbers were being called out BUT they got used to it and were prepared for the following year.
Long post, sorry. But between that and what meierfan wrote you can maybe get a complete picture as I'm not certain what sort of competition you are talking about and whether you are in Sweden?
Thanks Marbri and Meierfan,
It is the same competition the Stockholm Cup that we are hopefully going to. It does say on the entry form that they will be publishing the details on their website but I cant seem to find it. I will have to email them.
Thanks for all your help
It sounds like this system is similar to the Finnish star system. In the Finnish star system, the kids get 1-8 stars in 7 different fields: basic skating skills, footwork, spins, jumps (x2), spirals, interpretation and presentation. The one who gets the most stars wins and in case of a tie, the skater that has more stars for basic skating skills wins.
The judges also give special awards to skaters who had exceptionally good spins or spirals or for something that really caught the judges' attention in a good way.
Cool. That definitely gives more feedback than just a string of ordinals, or even sets of marks like, say, "2.5/2.6."
So for each area, the skater either gets a star or doesn't get a star?
I think it's very similar.
The following is in Swedish so if anyone who can read swedish wants to translate:
http://iof2.idrottonline.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_1746/cf_78/Bedömarinformation Stjärntävling.pdf
I am not even close to fluent in Swedish, can only guess on things by comparing them with Icelandic and I would say very loosely translated there are four areas that are judged:
1. Skating Skills
2. Technical elements
3. Transitions
4. Interpretation/Choreography
Each area is given a value between 1-10 at 0,25 intervals.
The points are used to help place the skaters and results worked out in basically the same way as OBO from what I can gather.
1-2 = poorly done
3-4 = below average
5-6 = Average/satisfactory
7-8 = above average/good
9-10 = very good
The rest is sort of what I already said. Jumps with falls or landed on two feet have no value. Slow spins with few rotations get mininum value. Repeating the same jump often will reflect negatively in the score so if you have a big trick in you back pocket don't go out and skate it 5 times. They are looking for well balanced programs, cleanly skated with attention given to the music they are skating to. Not underrotated two-footed quad attempts
I don't recall anytime the skaters being judged by the Star system at Stockholm Trophy getting any feedback other than the order they placed. It's possible it was available on request or maybe the coaches got it and chose not to hand it out but I know the skaters I know that went there got no specific feedback.
Just throwing that out there to be aware of the possibility you might not get something.
Yes, because each area is judged separately, so you can see which areas the skater should develop a bit more and what skills the skater already masters. Judges are usually looking for clean, effortless programs with good basic skating skills.
For each area, everyone gets at least one star, but you can get up to eight stars. For jumps, the number of stars is multiplied by two.
Marbri, you translated correctly. Seems like the Swedes are a bit more strict about two-footing jumps etc. But from the pdf I gathered that the goal of the star system is the same: rewarding skaters that skate clean programs and basic skating skills and don't try to do elements that they don't quite master yet.


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Hey Guys, I loved everyone's advice and thoughts. I read everyones post at least 3 times each and will continue to do so.
Im going to look at all the links and study them
I socialized him with my friends dog yesterday and today and in the beginning he was scared the he was playing non stop and is very dominate with the dog.
I think the best way to fix this problem would be having another dog as a role model.
I am really trying to work on this problem. Im taking him off the prozac, which he did start taking at about maybe 3 months old. But i think he is becoming more scared now that he is slowly coming off it. He is on 10MG now. Do you guys suggest i just give him ten for a week then .5 for a week then zero. The vet isn't really helpful and they want me to go in there and like charge me $80 for a visit which is a lot of money for me right now. But if i have to i will go in.
He is really good with taking treats from people and I realized he is getting better with eye contact. But when he sees strangers in the house he goes nuts and barks like crazy.
When he is with my girlfriend he tends to bark more at people then when he is with me.
I think his issue is that he is very protective. He alway wants to sleep by the door and when he gets home he looks everywhere making sure everything is okay and to see if there are any people there and also barks just to like show he is here.
Today I had an encounter with Hunter. I came back to my apartment and my friend that he has never met before was sitting on my couch and i didn't know. And i let me off his leash and he ran up and started barking at him like crazy i though he was about to bit him but i quickly grabbed him and made him stop. Then i had my friend give him cheese and he held the cheese in front of him pet him and he didn't do anything but I was able to tell with his facial expression that he was very uncomfortable when he was petting him.
Today, my trainer that didn't really end up helping much she only helped with OB which he is really good with. Told me to give him away and I have been so sad. I never want that to happen.
Thank you so much guys I love the help!!
Others have already said it but I will say it in my words"..stop cramming people in his face, your scaring the crap out of him!" Your job is to protect your dog, you do that by showing him you can protect him. If he wants to meet people fine but should "shield him" first!
Your dog should not have to chose between friend or foe. Black or White, Asian or Hispanic,children or people in floppy hats. He should not have to give a crap, that's "your job." He should treat people like furniture, just ignore them and move on. No more forced intros, just move on, ignore people.
If he is a sound dog he will learn what a normal interaction looks like. My dog goes behind me when I talk to people, that's what he learned that's what he does. He knows what normal human interaction looks like. He was taught to ignore people and other dogs.
This is what I did with my dog, who was not to" thrilled" with company. A low growl, greeted first time vistors...my conclusion was,that "cramming people into his face was not going to get me a people safe GSD.
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Please keep him out of the dog parks, he is unstable and other dogs will pick up on this and go for him, they will be really mean and aggressive to him because dogs don't like instability.
Once you work on his fears and when he becomes more stable (if ever) then you could take him to a dog park - but it is not necessary as most GSDs don't prefer the company of other dogs and will want to do fun things with just you.
My Harry is unstable as well, he has developed fear aggression (which I attribute to EPI) and I am currently trying to build his confidence back up and work through his fears and also work on my trust with him around other dogs. When I say other dogs, I don't mean a dogs in a dog park, I don't go into them, but rather other dogs in the area, walking by etc.
If it were me with him at such a very young age, I would not go to dog parks, I would walk him on lead and build up your relationship with him this way. I would start obedience training with him and start training him to ignore other dogs. You will probably find once he starts OB training and becomes proficient at it, his confidence in himself will grow and hopefully help with his instability. And remember he is still only a baby and needs protecting and guidance from you.
|Thank You shawnshayan9 for posting this! I am having a similar issue with my 4.5 month old. I thought I was all by myself with this. It started for us about 2 weeks ago in most cases, it happened earlier at the vet. The vet said he was aggressive and we needed to take care of it ASAP. I was surprised because he was super sweet to everyone else. Then two weeks ago he all of a sudden seemed to become aware of stranger danger. He is still okay in training class and at home, but outside of those he is not comfortable with strangers any longer. To be honest, it is a little scary. He is fluffy, soft and cute and I have to be on my guard because people just walk up and try to pet him!
|Our male BC Dexter developed issues with men, we got him at 8.5 weeks old and i know for a fact he has had zero bad experiances with people. He likes dogs alot so we took him to the dog park when he was younger but we have not been to a dog park for about a year or so, Dexter's attitude did not change until he was about almost 1.5. We adopted a rescue GSD mix and it was a amazing step forward or dexters issues. Shiloh loves people, she greets them with tail wagging, she loves being touched, she loves! loves! loves! and that is something dexter observed everytime someone came to the door. He watched shiloh get mad attention and rubs and she communicated something to him we could never communicate. I think that shiloh and the fact as he matured he gained more confidence in himself really helped with his crazy anti people antics. Its been a very long time since we have had a "dexter moment", and im so happy that he is over himself. I personally like the treat idea
First, find another trainer. Look for one that specializes in aggression cases or a behaviorist. Start with private classes (more expensive but worth it) then when he is ready move to small classes. The advantage is you will be trained to handle your dog, gain the confidence you need as well to handle him.
I am surprised the vet would give a 5 mth puppy prozac, (went back and read better the pup was actually put on prozac as a 2 mth old?) I am almost willing to say find another vet as well. It definitely is a drug that has to be weaned off. Your pup will need to be followed up with bloodwork periodically monitoring his liver and thyroid functions. Woolf is on flouxetine(prozac) but that was done as a last resort and he was an adult. There are side effects and it can have the opposite effect on some dogs.
Here is a great thread that is ongoing for socialization - take the time to read the discussion and all view points - http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...alization.html
Some links for training methods - I am biased towards BAT because I saw a huge change with Woolf when that was introduced.
Official Behavior Adjustment Training (BAT) site: humane help for aggression, frustration, and fear in dogs, horses, and other animals.
Look at That! A Counterintuitive Approach to Dealing with Reactive Dogs | Dog Training for Dog Lovers Blog
This is a great page to help you learn to start reading your pup: The Canine Language | Life With Dogs
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I feel like there is something else I need to do that is missing not just have people give him treats.
Same with the dog park, he's already had bad experiences there, so please don't continue taking him. It would be better for him to be around dogs that you know (owned by friends, family, neighbors?) are healthy, UTD on vaccines, well socialized to other dogs, and especially, good with puppies. No socialization is better than bad socialization, and exposure to new people/places/things does not require interaction with them.
I would also find another trainer. We have a sub-forum for finding a good trainer, you might want to post a thread there for some suggestions. Talk to your vet about taking him off Prozac. I don't know much about it, but I think you need to do it gradually rather than stopping cold turkey.
You know, Jericho has a very similar issue. He's never once had a bad human or dog experience (well...since he has been with me. I adopted him when he was 3 months old, so I'm sure he's forgotten anything prior to that), but for some reason is fearful of strangers. I've been watching him and trying to figure out what the trigger is and it seems that it is men with hoods, caps, or people with gloves.
I talked to my trainer about it and she said that it is not uncommon for GSD's to have fear aggression issues. She suggested that when he is in a fearful situation (like ones described above) to get his focus back on me and treat the heck out of him so he begins to associate these situations with treats instead of fear. She also suggested giving the strangers with these triggers the high value treats to reinforce that these are not scary things that they are good things.
It's no easy by any stretch. Jericho is tall, strong, FAST, and scares the tar out of most people when he is in this mode. It's not easy to find a brave sole willing to be your test subject. Especially a stranger. However, this suggestion does seem to be working for Jericho. He's starting to turn to me for treats and my reaction to the "stranger danger". However, if they come too close or try to pass us, he loses focus and it back to the "I'm gonna eat you" behavior. So, while I have not totally proofed this, it does seem to be a solution that is working. You might want to try it with Hunter.
It sounds like he's overwhelmed both at the dog park and outside in general. I'm going to tell you what worked for me
Rather than force interactions on him, take it slow and work at HIS pace. If he backs off, you back off and let him have his space. There's no need for him to be touched by strange humans any more than he needs dog friends. I have a fearful poodle that dislikes 99% of dogs and strange humans, I allow her to socialize as much as she wants but if she starts licking her lips, avoiding eye contact, or hiding behind my legs I immediately put an end to the interaction. If she starts showing signs of avoidance before they even touch her I step in between and block and politely tell the person that she's not up for being touched at that moment. I don't actively tell people to touch her or offer treats because I know she doesn't like it. If she approaches first that's great, but I let her make that call
Fearfulness is rarely cured through immersion techniques, dogs don't think like humans and rationalize that the fire hydrant beside the sidewalk is just a fire hydrant and therefore not scary. They see the shape and want to flee, it's an animal instinct.
The biggest tool you have in your pocket with dealing with a fearful dog is trust. It doesn't come easy, just like if you were terrified of heights, you trusting another human that does skydiving and wants you to join in is not easy. You can trust a family member or close friend that they will be there to support you through the entire experience or you can trust the instructor once they have demonstrated their capability. But if John Smith says "hey, here's my airplane let's go jump out of it. I'll keep you safe! Don't mind the rips in the parachute, its ok!" Trust doesn't erase the fear, you'll still hate heights but you can get through the experience if you have someone you know at your back willing to help you. What you are conveying to the dog is this: "I understand you are scared, that's ok and I'm here to protect you no matter what. Relax and we'll work through it together"
Your dog will learn to trust you in fearful situations when you have demonstrated again and again that you will protect them in those places.
So if the dog is scared of a fire hydrant as I've already used that example I would walk calmly and watch the dog as you approach. Once the dog shows signs of stress then immediately stop, you've reached that threshold. Relax, sit, sing a song quietly, etc. and wait for the dog to relax, it might take 5 seconds, or it might take 5 minutes or more. Give the dog the time it needs to process the scary thing. Once they've relaxed take one step forward, if the dog balks again then step back and wait again for the calmness then either walk back the direction you came or give the object a wide berth so the dog doesn't react and continue on your way. If the dog is showing only light signs of stress or nothing at all then give the dog extra leash so it's loose and walk yourself right up to the object, walk around it and touch it and prove to the dog that through your actions it is safe and not harmful.
It might seem overwhelming and hopeless and you'll probably have more failures than successes at first but you should slowly see improvement. Always end on positive notes, no matter what and when you look back you'll start to realize how far you've progressed. When I look at my poodle and see her succeeding where before she would fail, and to see that look of confidence and happiness on walks trust me, it's worth every drop of sweat and tears. My poodle will never be a 'normal' confident dog but I've learned that's ok with me, she's special just the way she is
I hope that helps, I wish you and your pup nothing but the best
I can't give any advice with your issue....I have never had to deal with that behavior...so far...
I can say our breeder and trainer have told us to AVOID dog parks!!!
They said many different reasons to avoid them!
Good luck!
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I just made a bunch juicers and I am trying to figure out why they all got pattern cracking on them. It is like a multiple s shape at the cone of the form. I did dry them in the sun (which I have only recently begun doing with some things). Not sure if that is the culprit. I am wondering if this is an issue with how I am making the form. Any ideas?
Pictures would help. Air drying in the sun is not an advisable thing on new forms.
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Here are the shots. The method I used was to throw them from the same bat and add the stripes and "spout" while on the wheel. I moved them to a board and set the board outside. At leather hard I trimmed them on a foam lined chuck and set them back outside to dry.
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In addition to drying them more slowly, try rolling a small ball of clay ind pressing it into the peak of the juicer from underneath. Blend it in with your finger and compress well. I do this to prevent cracks in this type of shape and it always works.
So simple - Yes! I just don't want to waste time on a trouble form, but that is a great idea. The cracking is right along the stress lines where the collaring was done so I think this will work nicely.
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perpetuallyfrozen wrote:I ended up getting one of these the last time around, and have only had it for a few weeks now. Overall, it has been able to handle most of my needs (semi-casual gaming, development), however I do have one qualm with it. The keys seem fairly cheap, and often I find myself almost smashing at the keyboard to ensure that characters are not missed while I am typing. It is actually a pretty big deal to me, since I do use it for development, and I somewhat regret getting this laptop as a replacement to the HP dual core that went up a few weeks before this one.
For people that actually know how to type, keyboard feel is a huge deal- almost need to try a similar model out in a store before buying online. In my case I can't type worth a $hit, so I'm a lot more flexible on keyboards. I refuse to learn how to type, I'm still holding out for technology that will make keyboards obsolete. I've been waiting since the 80's.
ashli143 wrote:Yeah, I was trying to wrap my head around his comment too - Toshiba is one of the best laptop brands imo.
It may be a holdover from the "old days" when they were known as Trashibas.
Of course, those were also the days when HP was considered godlike.
sdc100 wrote:....I, as well as my colleagues, do indeed have problems adjusting to the smaller keyboard and prefer to do without the keypad. We can always plug in a USB keypad if necessary.
As for the island keys, again, what is your point? So what if it's become mainstream? i acknowledged that younger users don't mind, and they often drive the mainstream market. So I;'m not sure what you're trying to correct. Mainstream or not, it's still nto full travel, and touch typists still prefer that. Ask any transcriptionist, where speed and accuracy are paramount. My secretary and medical transcriber refuse to use these keyboards. The reason they have become mainstream is not due to usability but other factors. They are MUCH cheaper to make, and allow thinner laptops (because they're not full travel). YOu can also backlight them. But in terms of reliability, they generally suffer. Many island keyboards simply use bubble membrane keys -- the major source of remote control failure.
Not wanting to interrupt your disagreement with the other poster...other than to say I agree with you 100%. Your keyboard points are valid and have been a serious problem for me (fwiw) on other laptops to the point I had to use a USB plug-in full size keyboard--not a huge deal, but an annoyance nonetheless as far as portability. So that, along with the Win 8 rather than 7 OS make this a deal-breaker for me.
ThunderThighs wrote:For those commenting on Windows 8, you might as well give it up.
All new Windows computers and now most refurbished some with Windows 8. It's really not a valid point for a buying decision any more. And, as many have pointed out, there are add-ons out there that give you the Windows 7 UI.
So let's take a vote on what the next fad will be for y'all to say you're not interested. You've gone through HDMI, Windows 8, and USB 3.0. We need something new. Come on!
It's a weird color. There. Happy now? =p
In all seriosity, however, it's just like when Vista came out. We'll find older versions (back then, XP)...or wait until the next level up comes out. Consumers ain't gonna buy something that isn't what we want just because that's the way the market is. In the end, it's the consumers who drive it.
aldenm wrote:I don't care if you were offering a trip on the space shuttle. If it has Windows 8, it's a loser. Sorry.
Well, for a trip on the space shuttle.....
I might be inclined to cave if that were offered. What say, Woot?
Not a fan of Windows 8 as far as interface but the 64 bit performance is very nice and it is a pretty solid OS. (Minus the Interface) I would shudder to deploy in a corporate environment at this time, but for individual use it will work as long as you take the time to learn the little shortcuts.
I am not modding it yet but I am waiting for SP1 which is supposed to give us back the start menu and option to boot to desktop instead of those stupid tiles.
This is not ME or Vista so I don't expect it to just fall away and be forgotten. Microsoft wants a uniform look cross platform (IE Phones with touch screens)but really took a hit trying to shove it down our throats.
I don't think it should be a deal killer unless you want to wait until this fall when SP1 is released to buy a new PC/Laptop.
I'm using Win8 with Start8 which brings back the full Start menu and boot to desktop.
sdc100 wrote:As somewhat of a novice myself, you're asking the same question I asked a fe weeks ago. What I've learned is that your question can't be answered as worded. In the 80's, everything was so much easier. There was a CPU (80286, 80386, 80486, etc) and a Frequncy number, i.e. 2.3ghz. It was simple to compare CPUs. Now there are so many variables that you can't simply say i3, i5 or i7. A fast i5, for exmple, can be faster than a slow i7. Not only do you have to consider frequency, but the number of cores as well. I've seen 4 core i7s at 1.9 ghz perform better than a 2 core i5 running at 2.8ghz (I think those were the numbers). And many other variables...
So there really is no answer to how this AMD compares to an i5 or i7, unless you specify which i5 or i7.
Here is a comparison that you may find useful. Your Turion Dual core M600 2.4ghz has a Pass Mark score of 1376 (ranking #826 of all CPUs), while this AMD scores 3162 (ranking #370). In other words, this computer is much faster. The lower the ranking, the better. Please note that there is more to a computer's performance than CPU speed alone. For example, there is memory speed, how much memory you have, hard drive speed, graphics processor, operating system (Win 8 is supposedly pretty speedy), etc.
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I'm currently considering this Woot deal as well as an i7 laptop for about $100 more. The i7 CPU I'm considering has a Pass Mark of over 7000, and ranks about #80.
Thanks for the big help! LOL, I am used to the old 286 vs 386 days. Seems like for the light gaming I use it for, the GPU will be a benefit. When did I become such an old man?
Went to bed last night saying if they were still available this morning I would pull the trigger. Looks like I will be picking one up.
mevande wrote:You can make the Windows 8 user interface look like Windows 7 with a neat little interface I wrote. You can toggle back and forth between Win8 and Wint GUI
Where can one find and download your interface app.
I bought this laptop from woot on May 20th. So far, so good. Windows 8 takes a little getting used to and I imagine it's amazing with a touchscreen, but honestly it's not all bad. There are handy shortcuts to do just about everything. And if you don't see what you want, just start typing and BAM! there it is.
About the computer. I like it, it's fast. Handles graphics processing very well in my opinion (I watch a lot of TV/movies but don't play new games or anything). Everything seems to work well (wireless, wires, USB ports, etc.). Looked and smelled brand new when I received it (I'll probably buy refurbed from now on).
I got frustrated with the touchpad because it seemed to turn off at times. If this happens to you, do not fret! It's the F5 key. Toshiba seems to think the "functions" are more important than the Fs. When you refresh a browser page you must use FN+F5 because F5 alone merely turns off your touchpad.
The fan is marvelous. Keeps it cool in ways my last laptop could only dream of.
I would recommend this laptop.
Looks like a decent deal. That AMD A10 processor is about the same as a highend intel i3. So perfect for everyday needs. Toshiba is generally a solid brand. I havn't tried windows 8 yet, but I've heard that for a personal computer it's actually pretty good. Maybe give it a chance.
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here is an interesting option for $400 http://tech.woot.com/offers/dell-latitude-14-core-i3-laptop-w-ssd-5
Dell Latitude E5430 14" LED Laptop, Intel Core i3-2350M Dual-Core 2.3GHz, 4GB DDR3, 128GB SSD, HDMI, USB 3.0, 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0, W7Pro.
The CPU is a little weaker than the AMD of today (passmark 2697 vs 3162), smaller screen (but this form factor may be a pro to some), traditional keyboard, SSD which will decrease space but increase perfomance- and best of all Windows 7 pro. You would probably want to upgrade RAM to 8gb (support up to 16gb).
Include Windows 7 and we have a deal.
disparky wrote:Include Windows 7 and we have a deal.
did you check out what I posted above?
For those of you who were looking to see if this laptop can run a particular game, Notebookcheck.net has some benchmarks results of this GPU running on some popular games on the market:
Put Windows XP on it and you might have a laptop.
ThunderThighs wrote:For those commenting on Windows 8, you might as well give it up.
All new Windows computers and now most refurbished some with Windows 8. It's really not a valid point for a buying decision any more. And, as many have pointed out, there are add-ons out there that give you the Windows 7 UI.
So let's take a vote on what the next fad will be for y'all to say you're not interested. You've gone through HDMI, Windows 8, and USB 3.0. We need something new. Come on!
Yeah....like the guy with the $4200 suit is going help you with your poll....Come on!!
So let me pull this laptop apart for you and expose it's (possible) negatives. I think it's a great deal - $400 refurb for something Walmart sells new at $600. But every deal has its drawbacks.
The onboard RJ45 NIC is 10/100, not gig-E. Still beats most broadband ISP up/down speeds, tho, and it does have WiFi-N, works great. The screen is 1024x768, not quite 1080p, and up to the highest resolutions out there. But it is great to look at (in person with my old eyes). The 750 HD is 5400rpm, not the fastest, but lotsa space. 8GB RAM, is far more than most ppl need, but better too much than too little. I'd suggest using WindowsXP and Ubunto under Virtual Box, to consume all that ram. And finally, it does NOT have Bluetooth!! But if you want Bluetooth, you can get a tiny USB adapter for about $10-15. Just note that there are currently some issues with the Windows-8 registry and Bluetooth drivers. Do a google/bing search and you'll find a workable utube how-to.
I don't know how to compare AMD procs to Intel, but A10-4600 was new one year ago, one step down from their fastest mobile processor, and 4-core, as advertised. Does that compare to a i7 Quad Cores (8 threads?!?) of similar 2.3/3.1ghz?
Windows-8 is a learning curve, but so was W95 and Vista. The screen with all the boxes, is just an expanded version of the START menu - more visual. The control panel is easier to find. They use tablet lingo (tap VS click) and you find yourself bouncing the mouse over the screen corners and sides to find hidden things.
Toshiba phone support ROCKS. Let them help you learn Win-8..
alanhwoot wrote:I'm using Win8 with Start8 which brings back the full Start menu and boot to desktop.
Same here. For the price of shipping 2 items at Woot, it does away with 95% of my annoyances with Win 8. It was money well spent to hold me over till the free Microsoft update soon to be released.
When I compared reviews in general for Toshiba vs Asus laptops at several merchant sites, it appears Toshiba is consistently rated higher than Asus. My last 3 laptops have been Toshiba. The customer service is fantastic the few times I've needed them.
In regards to the processor, hands down an i5 is faster. The integrated graphics on the A10 smokes the integrated graphics with the i5.
Few people actually use the full processor power. Web browsing, email, Word, Powerpoint - none of these things are going to max out the CPU of this laptop. Serious gamers would be happy with either an i5 nor an A10... but few would consider gaming on a laptop.
With this laptop, the A10 will provide a very nice balance between processor and graphics.
Just another opinion from an experienced techie. Take it for what it's worth.
No mention of bluetooth?
Someone above asked if you can use a mouse with this. Sorry for my ignorance, but I have the same question and don't know how to tell from the specs if you can do this. Would love some help if you can!
sbrudos wrote:Someone above asked if you can use a mouse with this. Sorry for my ignorance, but I have the same question and don't know how to tell from the specs if you can do this. Would love some help if you can!
You can use any type of USB mouse you want on this, either wired or wireless. Usually through the software controlling the track pad you can disable it (you don't have to- but if it annoys you, you can)
use a mouse with a usb plug? My understanding is that with all laptops, you are able to use mice, so long as you have a free spot to plug it in.
Ok, hoping for the patience of the community here as I ask my Curly Joe questions... Could a person play WoW on this?
sbrudos wrote:Ok, hoping for the patience of the community here as I ask my Curly Joe questions... Could a person play WoW on this?
It should play OK, check out this youtube
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Yes i know the vid looks bad. It was the angle i will make a better vid and use my plasma but this was a cheap LCD panel on the laptop. This vid is just showing the smoothness in org running the fallowing settings.
Display mode. Full screen
Res. 1280X768
Multisampling. 1X
Vsync Disabled.
Texture Res. High
Texture filtering. 16X Anti
Projected textures. Disabled
View Distance. Ultra
Environment Detail. Ultra
Ground Clutter. Ultra
Shadow Quality. Good
Liquid Detail. Ultra
Sunshafts. High
Particle density. Ultra
SSAO. Disabled
Laptop is a HP Envy M6 with a A10 4600m Hd 7660g 8gigs of DDR3 1600.
Thank you so much!
i've had great experiences with Toshiba laptops. minus Windows 8, this looks like a pretty good deal.
Well I finally had enough of you my old friend Woot! I think it is time we broke up, go our separate ways.
I don't want to be your friend any more.
Before you call me, text me,or send one of your girl friends over to my place, let me express my profound sadness at our parting. Frankly, my dear, you have changed, no longer do you tempt me with your "new" offer every day. It was exciting just to be near you, for years we were so close I even made you my home page in Firefox, Chrome and even in Linux. But alas, you have no interest in me any more! You're all about style and flashy web page design, of socks and golf balls (refurbished), AA batteries and ugly watches.
I tried, Woot, I really tried, I stuck around hoping for the good old days. But no more, life goes on.. Bye, Bye and thanks for the fish!
Awesome! Been looking for a laptop the last couple of weeks now. And it can play some decent games? Sold.
My laptop arrived in a week. Three days of use and it crashed. First time burned by a refurbished electropnic product.
MrJDW1 wrote:My laptop arrived in a week. Three days of use and it crashed. First time burned by a refurbished electropnic product.
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Doug dedicated a great deal of time to the industry. Just this summer he committed time to travel to Washington, D.C., to discuss pending dairy legislation with Senators and Representatives. As a leader, Doug gave guidance to many organizations including: the Riverdale District School Board, National DHIA, the California Department of Food and Agriculture State Board, the California Milk Marketing Producer Review Board, and Holstein Association USA. He is past president of both California DHIA and Holstein Association USA.
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Rock'n Ribfest includes all types of entertainment, games and food, but the main event is the ribs served up by eight barbecue teams from as far away as Australia.
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|Hi John. Welcome to Hotrodders.com. I assume they come with tables and motors. Do they have clutch motors or servo motors driving them? 145, 545, and 1245 are all basically the same. The smaller the number, the older the machine. I learned on a Pfaff 1245, and they still make that model. An older 1245 will go for $1200 from a dealer who has it in good working order. That's too much for the 145 or 545, unless a lot of stuff (like extra feet) comes with them. Pfaff makes excellent machines, and they are worth more than the Singers and Consews of the world.
Pfaff 545 or 145 newbie...
Hey guys my name is John and I'm new to the forum. I have always had a passion for custom upholstery, but never got off my *** and done anything about it. Well, I've decided to get off my ***, better late than never! So I'm trying to decide which machine to get. I have a guy here in Tulsa who runs a trim shop and he's shutting down half of it and has two machines for sale, pfaff 145 and 545. He wants 1200 a piece for them, this seems a little high to me, but I'm a newbie. Although hes kind of a friend and has offered to let me come hang out at his shop and teach me how to do seat covers, that's worth a little extra to me. But, still don't wanna get completely bent over So first question is, is 1200 too much? Second question, should I get the 145 or the 545? Thanks for your help!!
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I am a prospective teacher. I am currently in college in America, I will graduate in May of 2011 with my Bachelor of Science in Professional and Technical Writing (and an "unofficial" minor in communication, meaning I took many communication classes, just no official minor).
I have always wanted to be an English teacher abroad. I understand that money isn't great, but I am not in it for money. I do currently work from "home" (wherever there is an internet connection) so it will help make up for it. (It's a writing/editing/content development using Adobe programs job).
So, I want to teach English. Preferably in Brazil, Argentina, South America places, Italy... those are my top choices. Germany as well.
My problem is I worry about job opportunities. I plan on getting my TEFL or some kind of CELTA or whatever certification I need, once I can guarantee myself it is a legit certification and real. This will likely begin in May, four Saturdays a month.
Here are my concerns/questions:
1) When should I start looking for jobs? After I get my certificate [I will also have my BS then too]? I saw some say you should go to the country you want to work and apply in person. What is the best way to find jobs that pay descent and are legit?
2) My friend has already graduated and might do it with me. If he does, we plan on finding a job together. If he does the same course, and we look for a job together, is it unreasonable to expect finding a job together? Will it be harder? Will they consider that you have "family/friends" with you so you are more likely to stay and therefore more likely to hire us? How would we put this on our resume/cover letter?
3) My biggest concern is the fact that we are both gay. I don't want any trouble. What countries should I avoid because of this?
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|I currently have 295/50/15 tires all around. The rear end is a drum axle with limited slip and 3.73 gears. (5-Lugs) Do you have a link for the stainless steel brake lines? For now I plan on going with the brake lines, ceramic pads and bigger rotars.
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2WD? 4WD? What axles? Any rear end upgrades planned?
Get a set of Stainless Steel brake lines for your disc set up front, big difference in feel and actual force applied to the brakes. Best "bang for the buck" you can get for brake performance, in my opinion. The front brakes handle most of the braking force on almost all vehicles, this is especially true of pickup trucks.
If I were you, I'd plan on swapping to discs in the rear soon. The stainless steel lines won't be much change on the drum brakes out back and it's cheaper to put discs in the rear than to do anything else. The big brake aftermarket is insanely pricey. The cheapest brake conversion I've seen for these is $500 for one axle, and the brakes were not impressive looking.
If you're in a 5 lug truck, you could get an entire OEM disc rear-end and stainless steel lines for half of that. New rotors and pads for another $150. New calipers would still have you cheaper. Plus you can get one with limited slip and the gear ratio that you want if you're picky. Also the added benefit that you can go to any Autozone, O'Reilly, or Napa when it comes time to do your brakes again.
You can go through it at your leisure, when time and money will allow, and install it when you're done. Rear ends are cheap to buy and cheap to go through.
There might be swaps to a bigger rotor and caliper from another GM vehicle that would be feasible (like 'Vette brakes on Camaro's). But watch out, because when I looked into that for my Camaro, the extreme prices of having to buy bigger wheels (and new tires to fit the wheels) to fit over them still ruined it for me. I'll now be waiting until it's painted and the wheels are picked, then just stuff whatever I can fit behind them into it, probably some C5 Corvette brakes up front and the disc setup off a 93-02 Camaro out back.
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Just occurred to me that my 1983 Silverado has almost twice as much torque and power as my DD 1998 Volvo with less efficient stopping power. Been a member since 2007 and ive always wanted to go fast, having achieved that goal I admit I never thought to look at the suspension and brake end of the spectrum. The Truck Currently has Leaf Springs and front Disc Brakes. What are somethings I can do (in order of cost) to improve handling and stopping power. I am willing to do anything and a full disc setup is years (maybe months) down the road. Thanks for help in advance
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Re: Closing seacocks
Yes. always, except the sink and cockpit drain. Both hard to get to both are above waterline. The boat next to me would have had a sad day tomorrow if we hadn't opened his engine compartment while looking at the the zincs he lost after 3 weeks in the water. I noticed his bilge pump was cycling, all afternoon. Hose was fine, engine was leaking, small plastic plug was broken off below the o ring. He was not connected to shore power so batteries only. 2 very expensive engines, batteries and an expensive generator down there. He never closed the seacock before, had to pry it shut with a wrench.
EDIT: After Brent's comment one thing about my head finally(sort of) makes sense. The previous owner observed the sink drain hose runs to the deck, and nowhere else. The rubber hose is just the right length to drain into the head, so long as you are willing to hang onto it. The SS tube makes more sense, I'll try that when I get to fixing the head.
Re: Closing seacocks
Let's see... 4 bathrooms at 4 seacocks each, galley sink, washdown pump, engine, crew's quarters toilet (uninstalled), crew's quarter's sink, prop shaft. That's 22 below the waterline.
3 bilge pump outlets, engine exhaust, swim platform locker.. those are above the water line.
Many of the inlets are verticle and at or near the water line at the top of the seacocks.
I'm putting a bilge-on alarm on the onboard webcam. So at least I'll get an email every time the bilge pump goes on. (I actually brought the webcam home tonight to bring it to a tech store for the right plug for the alarm connection.) I have a driod, so I usually see emails pretty quickly.
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Re: Closing seacocks
I once worked on a boat, which had the head sink drain led thru a slightly flattened ss tube , under the head seat, into the head bowl. One thru hull eliminated. There are many such innovative options , Finding them is great sport.
Re: Closing seacocks
Just did the orientation on the boat today. Been thinking about this topic.
On previous boats, I always closed seacocks, if I was going to be away more than hours.
No more.
No key needed to start the auxilary.
So, everythings going to be double clamped. and tightened.
Seacocks going to stay open thoughout the season.
Insurance, dude.
|Brent Swain
Re: Closing seacocks
If you would stop eating in that Mexican restaurant and drinking that Mexican water, perhaps you wouldn't need three toilets.
My composter eliminates any thru hulls dealing with the heads. My skeg cooling eliminates the engine intake. That leaves just the sink drain and the watermaker intake
Re: Closing seacocks
I've only got 2 thru-hulls.....the head fresh water intake and the galley sink/cooler drain. I keep both closed unless in use. I'll open both seacocks when I get to the boat, pump some fresh water into the head. When I'm done for the day, or weekend...I'll close both seacocks when I leave the boat.
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Those that open and close for every use, I wonder if you are F/T cruisers and or LA with kids?
And my boat is also very simple -- manual head, manually-pumped water, one engine, no generator, no air conditioning, no wash-down, etc....
Head: one seacock for the raw water intake which also serves as drain for the sink; one seacock for draining the holding tank (which we only open when offshore).
Galley: one seacock for draining the sink, one seacock for sea water intake (manual pump at galley sink).
Engine: one seacock for raw water cooling, one stuffing box for propellor shaft.
two seacocks for cockpit drains, left open.
two below-water thru-hulls for depth sounder and speedo paddlewheel
above water thru-hulls for engine exhaust, multiple bilge pumps, and additional cockpit drains.
The rudder shaft enters the hull above the normal waterline and is contained in a solid "stand-pipe" to deck level.
As long as the seacocks are easily accessible, it's not really a big deal to use them as the primary on/off valves for the manual plumbing systems.
Re: Closing seacocks
I close them all four of them if I'm leaving the boat for more than a few hours while at dock and also when we depart the dock except for the salt water engine intake. That one get closed as soon as the sails go up. If the head needs to be used while underway it's relatively easy to open and reclose them since they're handy inside the vanity.
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Just for clarification, CruisingDad, does close his thru hulls when he leaves his boat for extended periods. He was referring to whether one would put a dowel into the barb of a closed seacock that had no hose attached.
My biggest issues are the sink drain and the Main engine intake. Reality is that any of the thulls could sink the boat, but the sink drain (on the 400's) and the Main engine are very large Thulls and would swamp her quickly.
WHen cruising, we really have no great choice on the sink drain. It is always open. Those that open and close for every use, I wonder if you are F/T cruisers and or LA with kids? THat would get really old.
The engine is a bit of a different story. Honestly, for me, it is an issue of years of doing it and losing our key to the main once! Yes, it is true. I blame the kids (but, shhh, it was probably me on a dink ride... I mean, yeah, it was the kids or wife.). SO we long ago got in the habit of puting the key on the Thull for the main. Helps to remember where the key is and is also a bit of insurance.
Thulls that are close to waterline or above I don't worry about as much. It is the ones on the bottom of the boat that can shoot water up like a garden hose. ANything above the waterline I couldn't care less about. Exeption is when sailing we close them (like the head sink(s), because you can fill it up with water on the C400 on a good heel with some nice seas).
Re: Closing seacocks
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My feelings exactly. I've owned this boat for 13 years and other than the engine intake, I don't close any of them ever.......
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