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Fee Schedule
Depending on the Dukascopy Bank SA services used by the client, various commissions may apply.
Trading commissions
The volume commission is charged in the primary currency for each opening or closing trade. Volume commission rate is expressed in USD per 1 million USD traded.
The volume commission is converted to the Client Account's Basic Currency.
For Clients trading by themselves (Self Traders) the volume commission rate depends on Net Deposit, Equity and Traded Volume as explained below (commissions come into effect 01-Jul-2012 at the settlement time):
In case Net Deposit, Equity and Traded Volume lead to different commission rates, Dukascopy Bank applies the lowest (as illustrated in the examples below).For Self Traders with several margin accounts with Dukascopy Bank, Net Deposits, Equities and Traded Volumes are cumulated to define a unique volume commission rate applied to all margin accounts.
The volume commission is determined on a daily basis at every settlement time. The defined rate will be applied on the following trading day.
Trading commissions for single stock CFD
Volume commissions on single stock CFD instruments are 0.1% of the traded volume and do not depend on Net deposit, Equity and Traded Volume. Minimum commission charged for a trade is 10 EUR.
For Clients appointing an external manager/attorney, the volume commission rate may amount to a maximum of USD 100 per USD 1 million traded.
All volume commissions are converted to the Client account's base currency at the moment when the trade is executed, at Dukascopy Bank SA current spot rate adjusted by a 0.1% fee.
In addition to the standard volume commission an extra fee USD 5 per 1 million USD for currencies and USD 7.5 per 1 million USD for precious metals is applicable to swap-free-accounts.To learn more about Dukascopy Bank ECN Accounts, please write us: [email protected],
call us: +41 22 799 4888 or alternatively ask for a call-back.
Examples of volume commission calculation depending on Net Deposit, Equity and Traded Volume:
Example 1:
Volume Commission: USD 2 x 18 = USD 36
Example 2:
EUR/CHF spot rate 1.4750 adjusted by a conversion fee 0.1%
Volume Commission: EUR 0.1 x 1.4750 x 30 = CHF 4.43
Example 3:
Volume Commission: USD 1 x 18 = USD 18
Rollover conditions
Binary Options fees
In order to enter into binary option contracts, the client shall pay a premium which corresponds to the contract size. The premium is automatically debited by Dukascopy Bank from the client account, prior to opening any option contract for the client. If the funds on the client's account are insufficient to pay the premium, Dukascopy Bank automatically adjusts the contract size and/or rejects the client order(s).
Dukascopy Bank does not charge any additional fees othe than the premium for entering into binary options contracts. However, the client understands and accepts that the market spread between the BID and the ASK price which exists for all tradable instruments negatively influences the probability of a gain. It should be noted that, in the case of Up option, the strike price of the option is based on the ASK but the relevant price at the maturity of the option, which determines if the option is In or Out-of-the-money, is the BID price. Inversely, for a Down option, the strike is based on the BID and the determining price at the maturity of the option is the ASK price. This means that, in order to be In-the-money, the price of the underlying shall move in the forecast direction more than the spread size.
SMS notification service fees
SMS (Short Message Service) notification fees are charged in EUR for every message sent to the client in accordance with their subscriptions. Fees are converted to the base currency of the client account and are charged at the settlement time.
Dukascopy Bank SA offers 20 free SMS per month to every client. Every message exceeding this number will incur a charge of EUR 0.07. Charged commissions appear daily in a separate entry on the Portfolio statement of the client.
This pricing applies to every SMS sent to the phone operator of the client.
Transfer Fees
1 Commissions of third banks might be added.
2 White Label Partners are charged CHF 10, EUR 7.5 and USD 10.
3 Fees for transfers ordered by online customer report. Transfer fees are doubled in case of signed withdrawal form.
Transfers in currencies different than the currency of the account are subject to the additional commission specified in the table of Currency Exchange section.
Trading Account Fees
* Dukascopy Bank SA may close, without further notice, any Trading Account left unfunded for more than 360 days or with insufficient balance to pay the accrued fees.
** No Maintenance Fees are charged on trading accounts during the first 360 days after account opening. Counting the 361th, Maintenance Fees are charged if no trade/open position/online currency exchange took place on any account of the client during the last 182 consecutive days. Maintenance Fees are capped at CHF 200 per client for each period of 364 days, save exceptions subject to specific agreement and regardless the number of open accounts of the client.
*** The interest charge is debited monthly on the average end-of-day balance. Accrued interests are debited immediately in case they equal or exceed the XAU sub-account balance, for instance due to a withdrawal/transfer. As a consequence, accrued interests may reduce the transferred amount and interests may be charged in the course of a month.
Current Account Fees
* Dukascopy Bank SA may close, without further notice, any Current Account left unfunded for more than 360 days or with insufficient balance to pay the accrued fees.
** Starting from opening, current accounts are free of Maintenance Fees for clients having had at least one open position/trade on any trading account or at least one online currency conversion during the last 182 days. Otherwise, Dukascopy Bank charges CHF 100 as Maintenance Fees every 182th consecutive days without any trade/open position/online currency conversion on any account of the client. Maintenance Fees are capped at CHF 200 per client per period of 364 days, regardless the number of open accounts of the client.
*** The interest charge is debited monthly on the average end-of-day balance. Accrued interests are debited immediately in case they equal or exceed the XAU sub-account balance, for instance due to a withdrawal/transfer. As a consequence, accrued interests may reduce the transferred amount and interests may be charged in the course of a month.
Currency Exchange
On-line money exchange, deposits, withdrawals, internal and external transfers, all kind of fees (except trading commissions), compensations and adjustments, which require currency conversions are executed at Dukascopy Bank SA's current spot rate adjusted by a fee in the table below.
The settling of profits or losses in currencies that differ from the base currency of the Client account involves currency conversions. These conversions are carried out using Dukascopy Bank's settlement rate adjusted by a 0.1% fee.
Bank Guarantee Fees
* Fees charged upfront at the moment the Bank Guarantee is issued and at the beginning of each following year.
Bank Guarantees may be issued only in relation with a Current Account.
Credit Card Fees
Credit Cards may be issued only in relation with a Current Account and requires that a Bank Guarantee be issued by Dukascopy Bank SA in favor of the credit card issuer. The Bank Guarantee Fees apply additionally.
Sending of Account statement / banking confirmation
Dormant Account Fees
Account Maintenance Fees apply plus any costs incurred by necessary researches to reestablish contact, minimum CHF 500 but not more than the account balance.


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Twitter is the second most popular social network online. However, it's mostly geared towards a younger audience. If that's who you want to target, then this is the network for you.
Twitter is a lot different from Facebook, and knowing the differences will help you to create better content, which will lead to more followers.
For those who are unfamiliar with Twitter, it's a stream of micro-content (less than 140 characters). When you follow another user, you will see everything they tweet in your stream. There is no algorithm that shows you specific content like there is on Facebook.
It's hard to reach people who follow a very high number of people, so engagement is just as important on Twitter as it is on Facebook.
1. Set Up a Great Profile
Just like Facebook, you want to make sure you have a good profile image, cover photo, and description of your organization. That's all you need to get started. I'll admit it's much easier to set up a Twitter profile than a Facebook page.
2. Understanding Tweets
Twitter has its own language, and it's important to familiarize yourself with the vocabulary. Here's a brief rundown. You can also read more about this and watch videos on how to get your profile set up and send out tweets here.
Tweet: a 140 character message that you can send to all your followers or only specific ones.
Retweet: taking an existing tweet written by someone else and sending it to your followers.
Twitter Handle: this is your username and begins with the "@" symbol
Favorite: similar to liking something on facebook. All this does is alert other tweeters that you like their tweet.
Hashtag: any word or group of words that start with the "#" symbol; can be used to group tweets or as a punch line to a tweet.
Direct Message or DM: A private message (still 140 characters) that you can send to anyone who follows you.
Mentions: Using someone's handle in your tweet will notify them that you've mentioned them.
3. Create Your Strategy
As a guideline, I recommend posting at least twice a day, but no more than 20 times. That means you will be creating at least 730 tweets a year, and make them all count. It's great to be able to plan this in advance, but it's also fun and more engaging to follow trends.
It's a good idea that you create a marketing plan before jumping on Twitter and writing what you had for breakfast. This is especially important for businesses.
It's good practice to decide what you'll be tweeting about before you do. Take a look at your business and figure out what you want to be known for and what kind of value you want to provide your followers. As a pool company, it could be as simple as tweeting out pool care tips, or as a way for your customers to know when sales are going on at your company.
Once you decide what you'll be tweeting about, it's time to set up how you'll use Twitter as a tool and how you'll get followers.
There are a few reasons I will decide to follow someone or a business. For businesses, I follow those who are tweeting valuable information that I could use right away. For instance, I follow a company called AdSanity because I use one of its products, and its profile is set up so customers can ask questions and get quick help, instead of emailing.
If you go with this model, then you can advertise to your customers that you're always available to answer quick questions about their pool or hot tub using Twitter. At the same time, you can encourage them to follow by also tweeting special offers to Twitter followers only. Just make sure you're not using Twitter solely to self promote. You need to provide value for free.
As I wrote in my article The Social Media Mindset, try to utilize the 82/20 principle: 80 percent of the content you publish will be valuable for your followers and 20 percent can be promotional, such as a sale, discount or event.
No one wants to read a Twitter stream filled with promotions, discounts and events. They need a good reason to follow you. So a healthy mixture is a good place to start.
Also, it's a good idea to start following only other Twitter accounts that you truly admire and want to follow. This will give you a sense on how to use the social media tool effectively.
If you have any questions about using Twitter for your business, write them in the comments below. And as always, happy swimming!

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I am working on my custom Mando(actually custom Boba). I am going to start with a black jumpsuit and weather it to make it look something like Boba's ESB jumpsuit. I've come up with 4 things I can do:
1: slide around on dry lawn for grass stains
2: slide around in wet grass and mud
3: dip in algey and scum filled pond in our yard
4: slide around in snow
With washing inbetween each weathering.
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|February 14th, 2011, 12:48 AM
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I have my headers sealed with copper permatex stuff. No issues at all. It was done because I did not have time to wait for gaskets before heading to silver lake last summer. No leaks yet
|March 1st, 2011, 02:00 PM
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Haven't touched it much in the last couple weeks. I got the rest of the HVAC ductwork cleaned out and bolted back together.
The trans should be done any day now, needed more work than I originally planned on. My fuel system parts are mostly arriving today. I've got a corvette filter/regulator, and got the dorman quick connect fittings that I can use with regular fuel injection hose and clamps.
|March 2nd, 2011, 06:11 PM
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Here's the fuel parts:
AC Delco GF822 Filter / Regulator
Dorman hard line with flare - #800-158
Dorman 3/8" quick connect repair part x 2 - #800-121
Dorman 5/16" quick connect repair part - #800-120
From the tank, there will be high pressure fuel hose that goes to one of the 3/8" quick connects. Note that those have two flares on them, so they will receive two fuel injection hose clamps.
The 5/16" fitting will feed a low pressure return line back to the tank.
The 12" long hard line will be cut in half, so one end will go into the output fitting on the fuel filter. This could be flared and connected to a 3/8" hard line to feed forward to the engine.
At the engine, I'll run a piece of high pressure hose to the rail, which will have the other 3/8" quick connect.
I'll run as much hard line as possible, just using short pieces of high pressure hose where I need to have a flexible section.
|March 3rd, 2011, 05:07 AM
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Nearly identical to my set-up. If you don't want to try to flare the end coming out of the filter (towards the engine) Jegs offers a few pieces that snap into the output side of the filter/regulator that may give you other options.
|March 21st, 2011, 09:40 AM
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OK haven't updated anything in a while, went to Mexico for another week after the last update. Seems like everytime I start on something with it, there's some little piece i'm missing that takes longer... oh well.
So, got the trans back from Tranny Tom, thanks man! Got that installed this last weekend. The locking nuts on the converter bolts are too big and won't fit under the pads on the converter. Also, there's too much space between the pads and the flex plate when its fully seated, looked like around 5/16s. I mic'd out 3 0.082" washers, I will see if that gets me where I need to be, I believe I need no more than 3/16s so I might need thicker washers. Which I need longer bolts now too. etc, etc, etc... Anyway, its all bolted up except for the 3 converter bolts. I'll get them once its in the Jeep.
Here's a pic of the bushing which supports the snout of the torque converter. It just hammers into the crank.
I then installed the headers, using ultra-copper on the flanges as directed by sanderson. At this point, I found one broken exhaust bolt in the head..awesome. Lucklily, I was able to drill it out and use an extractor to get it out. New headers went on fine, I did need to clearance the bracket for the engine oil dipstick, no biggie.
Here's how it sits now.
I got the oil pressure sender done. Just above the oil filter, there's a little bypass plate where they can out on a remote filter or cooler or something. Mine has a boss on it that just needed to be finish drilled and tapped. The only thing I didn't like is its bored from GM just a bit bigger than it should be for tapping to 1/8-27 NPT. So I'll have to see if it seals, or if I need to mill off some of it and tap it further where its narrower.
Currently I'm trying to figure out the temp sender. The port on the head is M12-1.5mm. I had 2 senders, one is 3/8 NPT one is 1/8 NPT. I started out with an adpater from autometer, from M12 to 1/8NPT. This didn't work, as it needed to be bored out, and the sender turned down and still was a tight fit. I didn't want to do this, IMO, with the sender tight against the brass, I'd me reading more of the head temp than the water temp. Maybe I will try again, but I'd need to buy another sender.
So my next round of options are:
1) drill and tap the cylinder head to 3/8 NPT.
2) drill and tap the block heater plug
3) turn down my sender and try to thread it to M12-1.5
I really don't like drilling the head while its installed on the engine. I need to see if I can help the water passages 100% clean.
The heater plug would be easy, but I don't know how the water temp in the jacket compared to it at the cylinder head.
Turning the sender smooth is easy, but I don't have a metric lathe. 1.5mm pitch is 16.9TPI, which if I could do 17TPI, I'd be good, but I can only do 16 or 18 with my lathe. I'm not sure if I can get a die on there far enough to fully cut enough threads, though.
I think I will try rethreading the sender. I only need to get a few good threads, and then I have a copper crush washer to make the seal.
Here's a pic as it sits. At this point, I just need to reattach the wiring harness and put in the water temp sender and then it goes back into the Jeep, shoudl be in next weekend. I have pics of the sender work, I'll upload those tonight...
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Do you have a pic of what you did with the oil pressure sender? I am considering re-doing mine, currently I have a "T" at the facotry location and it reads low on the aftermarket gauge.
|March 21st, 2011, 09:54 AM
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Since I wasn't going to use the 3/8NPT sender, I will try to convert it to M12 before buying another sender.
|March 21st, 2011, 09:55 AM
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The factory sender isn't needed by the engine, I don't think, you could pull it out and get rid of the T....
|March 21st, 2011, 02:24 PM
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was wondering about the temp sender on beckys jeep also. was going to wait and see what comes with her gauges, but was kinda thinking about taking a metric bolt and drilling a good size through hole in it on the lathe and then tig welding some kind of steel fitting on it with a 1/4 npt
|March 21st, 2011, 03:02 PM
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There's a place that does sell a steel adapter, I will see if I can find the link.
The root of the issue is the M12-1.5 hole doesn't give you much room to work.
The temp senders are usually around 8mm or so in diameter.
The root diameter of the M12-1.5 fitting is about 9.8mm. So drilling it out, you end up with wall thickness under 1mm. Some people have broken them off in the block. If you do want to go this route, there's the equus brand that are often sold in basic auto part stores that are already bored out.
I'm going to see if I can get M12-ish threads onto my spare sender. Since I destroyed my 1/8-27 NPT sender, I will use the 3/8-18 NPT as a guinea pig. I have an old south bend lathe, so I can turn the thread area down to 12mm. Just a question if I can get acceptable threads on it. I have seen this done with this exact sender, so I know it can be done. Just my lathe isn't set up for metric threads, or 17TPI. So, I'll see what I can do, need to go down to my barn with my lathe tonight to look through my tooling and gears to see what I can do.
I will post up what I figure out....
|March 21st, 2011, 03:03 PM
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BTW, if needs to be 1/8 NPT, the 1/4 NPT is larger than the stock 12mm.
|March 21st, 2011, 05:23 PM
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i was kinda thinking if the steel npt fitting was long enough, then the sender wouldn't have to go through the m12 bolt. just have i big enough hole in it so the sender could get coolant on it? maybe it wouldn't read the temp vary good
|March 21st, 2011, 09:00 PM
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Here's the pics of doing the oil pressure sender. First drilling it out. Its wierdly angled, so you need to fixture it to be angled in 2 different planes. I screwed it to a piece of wood to help hold it. Set your drill stop to not go too deep.
The tap it to NPT1/8-27.
Bolted back onto the engine.
LOL, here's the f'ing exhaust stud. Came out without too much fuss, though..
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I've recently discovered a passion for your sport (and your forum website), and need all the help i can get! Here's a little about me: Im 24 years old and have lived here in Fort Collins, CO since 1998. I'm an avid fly fisherman who is looking to broaden my horizon and learn to hunt. Specifically waterfowl. I've had very limited experience in a duck/goose blind growing up, but I never really had the desire to make it a hobby. Until now, I've found a true desire for the sport along with a steady well paying job that provides me with the time and money required to hunt. I don't have many friends who hunt so i feel kinda lost when it comes to gear i should have and specifically where to go to find birds without paying thousands of dollars! I've got a shotgun, and thats about it. Kinda feel like a chicken with its head cut off. So i figured id try out this way of reaching out for help.
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yay for ambition. the other night i finally got some and started rocking out with the spray cans using AFFO$. it's taken me about 8 months to get past the initial coat of aluminum after cleaning up my sarge's helmet. i used the toothpaste technique, and i've got to say, once you get it on go and paint right over it. don't let that stuff get dry, it's a pain in the *** to take off. so enough about that, lets get on with some pictures. (i know they're not great pics, but i was using the only digital camera i had access to at the time; my laptops webcam. but i think they'll be good enough to give everyone an idea of how it's looking.)
so, um.... what do you guys think? i know the killstripes are missing, because i somehow managed to lose the vinyl stripes i got a few weeks back, but i'm going to be ordering another set if the first one doesn't show up in the next couple days.
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Last week the Friends of KPL celebrated their 50th anniversary with a wonderful reception. They recognized past presidents and long time volunteers, reviewed their history, celebrated their strong support and advocacy of the library, shared the success of their bookstore, and gave the library a generous $50,000 gift!
The Friends financial support has supported many of our programs: Ready to Read, Reading Together, Youth Literature Seminars, Prime Time, programming for all ages. This past summer they funded our summer reading games for all ages – preschoolers to adults – as well as the end-of-summer reading party, attended by 1,014!
This gift came from bookstore proceeds. Just imagine how many books they sold for 10¢ to $2.00! Our community is generous in donating books to the Friends and our Friends are generous to the library.
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Re: Dock vs. mooring
I use my AB RIB if servicing a customer on a town mooring. The RIB is not ideal but works.
Thus the Grady-White. She's pretty old and worn but once I get done with her she should be a good platform. At 21' she's bigger than I would have like but the price was good.
Despite my discussions with him the customer insisted on a X*****x I/C, to replace the existing failed X*****x I/C, so this will be an annuity for me... I'm sure I'll do it again in a few years...
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I'm curious. Costly for who? You or the customer?
Originally Posted by Coquina View Post
I did a job for a transient on a mooring and as soon as eaded back to the shop to write up their invoice they slipped the line and left.
Re: Dock vs. mooring
I did a job for a transient on a mooring and as soon as eaded back to the shop to write up their invoice they slipped the line and left
I wasted a couple days going to every marina south of Annapolis until I found them. They "forgot" I was coming back with the bill
So.........that one cost ME.
Re: Dock vs. mooring
........ Leaving the boat to get stuff is costly.........
I once had a boat yard whack me for 3.5 hrs to change the impeller on my genset. When questioned, they explained the unanticipated trips they made for tools they didn't realize they needed. It's in a tough spot, but the job takes me about an hour and I don't do it every day.
We agreed to disagree on whether that was appropriate and they've never seen a dime of my business since.
Re: Dock vs. mooring
Some more thoughts - this equation changes a LOT with the local area. In a place with a lot of moorings, there will be infrastructure to support the boats. Example - Swan Creek Marina in Rock Hall has a number of moorings. They have a dinghy dock, a place to pull up and load, water, showers, etc. Many harbors I have been to in New England and Maine were primarily set up for moorings. The high tide range makes docks an issue if they aren't floating docks. Some other areas - not so much. In Maryland we have "good" mooring areas and "bad" mooring areas. The good ones tend to be run by a local marina or organized by the local town. Getting a mooring within the boundries of Annapolis waters is quite the accomplishment. There is a waiting list that is DECADES long or at least it used to be. The "bad" areas tend to look like a bunch of boats whose owners could not possibly afford a slip and some apparently can't even afford things like sail covers, bilge pumps, or soap You can see this as a literal line in Weems Creek between the Annapolis controlled half and the other half of the creek that is a free-for-all. Mooring in one of these areas gives you neighbors that are on dubious gear at best. We have one live-aboard in the creek that has a raft of 2-3 boats usually that migrates up and down the creek whenever the wind is strong. Winter frequently results in at least one of the floating wrecks getting loose or sinking.
Speaking of winter, this is a large drawback to the mooring in some areas. Getting back and forth to the mooring in December is not as fun as it was in June. I can still remember heading down the creek in the dark on a cold December night with the wind blowing 35 and hoping the old Dyer did not decide to pick that night to sink or capsize And then you have the ice issue. Some people are willing to risk ice and just let their boats get frozen in. They seem to do OK, but I never could bring myself to do that. Every year on the mooring I hauled out around Christmas and thus had the expense of hauling/launching/storage. I stay in my slip year-round and can usually get some good sails in over the winter. Not doable with a mooring very easily IMHO and I sure like the heat in the winter. I kind of have the best of both worlds now. I have a slip on Kent Island and a mooring in the Corsica River at my club.
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Re: Dock vs. mooring
Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
Great. Let's compare work boats someday. I'm still running around in a 9' RIB while I breath life into an old Grady-White Chesapeake with an outboard conversion.
I am trying to find a "work boat" right now that I can;
A) Fit my tools in
B) Build a compartment/box that will keep them dry & secure
C) Has good fuel efficiency
D) Self bailer or won't sink with plug out.......
E) Max of 15'-17'
Been watching CL for a while but most of what I find is junk. I will find a good deal over the winter though.. A friend is a diver, works on moored boats too, and has a Maritime Skiff that is perfect but they hold their value STUPIDLY up here in Maine. A Maritime Skiff would be my first choice.. Sadly a complete beater is only a few % off a new hull and they sell in a few days......
Kind of eyeballing 17' Whalers at this point but again they hold value ridiculously.. Also would not mind an Amesbury Skiff or Bristol Skiff.. I do not want a v-hull as our bay can be quite flat and a boat with a flatter bottom uses less fuel...
Heading out to do a very heavy inverter charger right now, and that is awkward stuff to lug......
Despite my discussions with him the customer insisted on a X*****x I/C, to replace the existing failed X*****x I/C, so this will be an annuity for me... I'm sure I'll do it again in a few years...
Re: Dock vs. mooring
Ditto! I work on mooring sailed boats every day...
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Re: Dock vs. mooring
Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
Not trying to sell anything I will say that part of my competitive advantage is serving boats on moorings and at anchor. Saving a transient client slip fees helps them a lot.
Re: Dock vs. mooring
We have a slip this year, and the possibility of a mooring next. We like the slip right now as we have a 1 year old and it makes getting all the kid stuff back and forth. After a year or two, I think we would like the mooring as well.
Our marina is very quiet as it is mostly for folks that keep a boat there to get to a remote cabin so they don't hang out at the marina. But, even though they allow it, we never stay the night at the slip. We always head out, find an empty cove and anchor for the night.
I can see many pros and cons to both depending on the situation.
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Ok lets talk cleaning. That was just brought up. How much time does everyone here spend cleaning there boat? Do you do it every time to go to your boat? Then just for me how new is your boat?
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Me and the wife went out on a charter. Had a lot of fun. We both love the water and so do the kids. We have a 17' openbow that we have a lot of fun with on some inland lakes but its just day trips. We would like to do some over nights and week long vacations. Im thinking the 27 is my best choise. The only thing that would be missed about our speed boat is tubing.
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- Year Built 1996
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- Conference space size (feet) - 28,000
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Air-conditioned accommodations at Monte Carlo Resort and Casino offer minibars and safes. Pillowtop beds feature premium bedding. LCD televisions come with premium cable channels. Bathrooms include complimentary toiletries and hair dryers.
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Diablo's Mexican Cantina - With an open-air design, this restaurant has live entertainment, specializes in exotic tequilas and margaritas, and serves lunch.
Dragon Noodle Co. - A new spin on traditional favorites, this restaurant serves classic Chinese cuisine, dim sum, and sushi.
d.vino - Classic Italian cuisine is complemented with an extensive wine list of 150 different wines. Housemade pastas and woodfired pizzas are served along with artisanal cheese. Try the Enomatic wine system tastings and be your own sommelier.
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Food Court - Venues include Sbarro's, Subway, Rubio's, Manchu Wok, Häagen-Dazs, and 2 Starbucks.
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The golf concierge can reserve tee times at the Bali Hai, Desert Pines, and Royal Links golf clubs; in general, more than 20 golf courses are within driving distance of the resort.
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- Valet parking fee: USD 15 per day (in/out privileges)
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Painting with pearl
Hey all, I'm new to this forum and up to my eyeballs in a truck build.
Finally getting to the point where I am ready to actually paint the beast.
I'm not totally new to painting but all of my experience comes from fiberglass boats so I'm new to the whole 2stage base/clear thing :p
What I want to do is paint the truck black and then shoot some white pearl flames and blue pearl over everything else.
SO from what I understand from talking to the paint store guys is that I will be mixing the pearl in the first layer of clear and then shooting plain clear over the whole thing?
So I would shoot the base, tape off and shoot flames, retape over the flames and shoot the blue pearl and then clear the whole thing? Or shoot the base, tape off for the blue and then retape for the flames and then clear the whole thing? Will I wreck the paint if I try to tape it off or no?
This is a mud truck so perfect isn't needed but I don't want it to look like a four year old went to town if ya know what I mean.
If you are shooting base/clear, what you have just spelled our is a recipe for disaster. If you want an easier way to do it maybe I can help by asking a few questions first....Are you talking Ghost Flames (Ghost Flames are more visible when direct light hits them) or are you talking full fledged, see them all the time flames?
Answer that question and I will try to make this a not so much of a nightmare proposition for you.
Also if you could tell me what brand of paint, maybe I can help more.
Ghost flames. The way the paint guy put it the truck would look black in the dark/shadows but when the light hits it you would be able to see the blue pearl and the white flames.
The paint is Omni plus.
I also looked at using an intercoat clear to carry the pearl but they don't use that at that shop and so don't carry it.
Any help I can get would sure be appreciated.
Paint the truck in the black pearl base only, get coverage allowing proper flash times. When done and flashed mask off your flames and put plastic or paper over the entire truck and paint the flames a straight black (if you add white pearl to black you don't get the effect as when you add a different color like blue or red etc), ask your paint jobber to pour off 1 pint of base coat converter (Binder) in the Omni system and add about .1 grams of white pearl to the converter, reduce as normal and gently dust it into the edges of the flames with less as you get close to the center. When you have the effect you want, unmask the flames and clear the entire truck.
The hardest part is masking the flames and doing the fading from white pearl to black. I would recommend a test panel painted black and GENTLY dusting the white pearl over top. Paint the entire panel with one coat, mask off a 4 inch section, another coat and mask of a 4 inch section, another coat mask off a 4 inch section. Remove the masking and clear the entire panel, take it outside in the sunlight and you will soon see which effect you like the best.
Hope this helps and if you have any more questions just ask.
Just a short note. The pearls in PPG powder are the same for Omni as they are for Deltron. Don't let the jobber tell you that Omni doesn't have pearls.
Rereading your original post, it would be OK to paint the truck with the back with blue pearl and then mask off your flames. Is Omni the product you have in stock at your shop? If it is go to your supplier and ask for the base coat converter. You should have the converter though to make base coat colors.
Remember, dust the white pearl because it will be on top and more visible than the blue mixed in with the black.
Okay, this makes more sense to me. I think.
Just to make sure I'm understanding it right I would put the blue pearl (yes it is a powder) right into the black base coat and then would mix the white pearl in this base coat converter for the flames?
That's correct...now check the black with the blue pearl in the sunlight after you mix it because that's the effect your going to get on the truck, remember a little pearl goes a long way. Also important is the test panel especially for the white pearl as the white pearl is on top of the black base and it won't take much pearl to give you a ghost effect. If I was doing the truck I would use blue ghost flames buy adding just a bit more blue pearl in the black I use for the flames...a much more subtle effect and it would keep your color motif more in line (Not just better effect, it's easier as well). Maybe do a test panel on blue flames...you just might like it better.
Definitely plan on a test panel or few lol!
I'm going to have to play with things, originally subtle wasn't something I was going for. I dunno. I've got some thinking to do I guess :p
Thanks so much for the tips and help with all of this.
Test panels are the best thing you can do for practice...try the black with blue pearl and slightly more pearl in the flames...I think your going to like it. Ghost flames are supposed to be subtle...only when the light hits them should you see them.
Your more than welcome for the assistance, if you need more help, let me know.
When I sprayed my truck (white) I used Nason BC/CC. Sprayed the base, taped off the flames and shot the blue pearl mixed into the clear coat as a carryer. Untaped, then buried everything in the clear topcoat. These flames are very hard to see and the light has to be directly on them. I call them "Stealth Flames".
You can see them better on the lid.
In order to make them more visible you should probably go with a candy blue. Do a few test panels to get the coverage you need for the look you want.
I would also suggest doing the paint job and laying one or two light coats of clear on the base, to seal it up, before taping and shooting the flames. This will give you some time to get your flames laid out and masked. Once you get the flames sprayed, unmask, knock done the edges and then shoot your pearl white. You should then shoot a couple of heavy coats of straight clear just so you have something to wetsand and polish without getting into the pearl.
You may also want to check out this site.
They have some very cool pearls and candies and the stuff is very inexpsensive...
With all do respect to astroracer, I would not recommend this procedure. This is an option however, and yes it does work. The problems are several.
#1 Repairability...if your ever involved in a situation where you've been involved in an incident where a repair is necessary, your chances of blending pearl in a catalyzed clear is extremely difficult, even next to impossible. Where ever you have overlap of clear your pearl will be more concentrated and you will end up with a halo effect.
#2 Cost...Adding pearls to a catalyzed clear cost more money even if your using a product like Omni and you can achieve the effect desired without going this route.
#3 Color sand and Buffing...It is possible to color sand and buff but, clear being a product that has a greater mil thickness than base coat when applied, it will take more coats of clear to bridge the flames to allow you to sand out the edge and buff, making it more labor intensive and more costly let alone the possibility of burn through and having to revert back to reason #1.
#4 Errors in application...If you get a run or excessive dirt while apply your "pearl in clear" coat and need to start over, it is much more difficult to fix the problem in the booth when using this method.
These are just a few reasons I would not go this route and create a recipe for disaster as I mentioned in an earlier post. I'm not trying to offend astroracer in any way and I have done exactly what has been suggested by him...I have also learned not to do it that way. With today's products there is no need and the same effects can be achieved easier with less mill build of product and cost.
I love doing Tri-coat paint work and when using the right product it's amazing what can be done. Here is a URL of my last build. It's a tri-coat starting with a blue base and a transparent orange over top, using proper materials and at great cost to the customer. The flames where air brushed in prior to top coating with the transparent orange.
1972 Chevy C-10 Pickup Truck - a set on Flickr
Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm only speaking from experience and have had to try and repair my work when I have put pearls in clear in the past (distant Past...like over 20 years ago), it is extremely difficult and that is the major reason I don't recommend it.
Take it from an older guy who learned the hard way.
Hope this helps and again no offence to astroracer.
Hey Ray, points well taken and no issues on my end but I will rebut your comments. :)
#1 is a moot point. ANY paint work with a pearl additive makes repair work more difficult, Whether it's in the base or clear top coat it will make an SOB of the match job.
#2. Cost was no different then if it was a straight repaint other the the cost for the bottle of pearl powder. That was 15 bucks if I remember right.
#3. The flame pattern was laid down in a very thin coat. When I untaped it I knocked down the edge a little with 800 grit and then simply sprayed on the rest of the top coat. I had to do very little sanding to knock the edge down after it was buried in the final clear coat. Most of the work was done in less then an hour.
#4. Another moot point. ANY paint application with pearl additives will run the risk of errors. Just make sure you don't make any. :) My truck was sprayed in my garage during a rainstorm. There was no booth and, granted it's not perfect, but the clear topcoat is very sandable without getting into the flame pattern underneath.
In my opinion this is a very good way to go. It was cheap and simple to do with off the shelf paint and no custom mixing.
I will not hesitate to use the same method when I get to the paint stage on my van build. OTHER then shooting a couple of light coats of topcoat to seal the base before I start laying out graphics. I will also be using the pearls and candies from the website I listed in my first post.
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Your recourse:I gotta ask. Where was the bike parked? If it was in an assigned parking space, then the treatment of it was totally inappropriate and the management as well as the contractor should be made aware. A report to the BBB will have some effect if they don't give you any satisfaction. I'm no attorney, and I don't know how much you want to put into this yourself, but taking it to court may be more costly in time and effort (and maybe court costs) than it is worth. If the bike was parked someplace other than an assigned parking space, then you probably have no recourse.
Jeremy, I meant no offense by asking that question. I just wanted to frame expectations. My granddaughter lives in a rental townhouse and I see bikes and jet skiis parked between the buildings against the rules. I just thought I'd ask. I have no idea how you can get paid for your time. If there is actual damage, you might get reparations, but I don't think you'll get "time".It's not me, but if it were, I think I would be settling for an apology and a gift card or other relationship damage control.


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Today I logged on my account. Checked my status and then I saw it. ''Banned''. It says I'm banned but I don't think I am because...
1. I can log in.
2. I haven't received any mails from Blizzard about it.
3. I haven't bought gold or done anything forbidden(I hope).
Hmm... I tried playing on a private server ONCE but I don't think that would cause this ban.
So... ?