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|I just experienced something very similar with my 13 month old. It started exactly the same way with him bolting out the door to chase someone but eventually came back. At this point he didn't try to bite but just barked. It has now escalated to a point where he was in a dog park and randomly ran up to a person who was simply standing there and bit her. I wish I had taken it more seriously when he exhibited that initial behavior, but am now taking the steps to address the issue. While he has been in training and knows lots of obedience and trick commands, we have now changed our focus to managing his aggression. In addition, we have now started a NILIF approach. I have to say that in as little as 3 days there has been changes. For the first time he has actually not attempted to chase the cat when he runs past and is focusing on me when there are other people passing by the house instead of barking. I've heard a few people say that this is a "difficult" period in dealing with male GSD's since this is the time where extra effort needs to be put in to ensure that they learn the right behaviors. I would love to know, for those who experienced dogs barking aggressively at the door, how long did it take before you saw progress in improving that behavior. Thanks! @DannyG...hope things are improving.
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I'm nowhere near an expert, but I'd guess the excitement of a young dog getting through the door and then seeing Something! To! Chase! is a far more likely explanation than some crazy underlying super-high prey drive (not saying that's NOT the case, but seems to be the worst case scenario here)
Regardless, you've gotten excellent advice. Work on that "place" command over and over and over. I do it all the time - for instance, if Heinz is begging for a piece of popcorn and I'm sitting on the couch he doesn't get a snack until he goes to his bed. Reinforce the "place is an awesome place" idea so it becomes an automatic response. We are ALMOST at the point I can order him there when the pizza man is at the door and he'll stay. Almost.
And get cracking on an automatic down/stay. I can't say ours is perfect yet, but it usually gets Heinz to pause long enough that I can grab him.
teach a solid recall, if he bolts you'll be able to call him back. Or an emergency down.
When my dog was a teenager I leashed her with a prong when people came up to the door. If she got huffy I asked her to sit, told her "it's fine", and gave her corrections for breaking the sit and corrections for barking after I told her it was okay. We've phased out the sit. If she hears "it's fine" she remains silent and watchful. If I am not around to tell her it's fine, she knows the person is uninvited and she is allowed to bark - she alerts me and stops when I tell her to.
Skateboards used to trigger my dog's prey drive. It was the one thing that could set her off but it was trained out of her, she's fine, she doesn't care now. However, really really think about proofing a solid recall and leave it. If that kid hadn't jumped over a fence you could be in big trouble
|I think the whole alpha thing is over done, just keep exercising him and training him new things finding him new jobs, him trying to bite you i dont think is a big deal, it was redirection aggression, just make sure he cant dart out the front door like that again. Trust me a lot of gsds and almost every dog would love to chase down the mail man and whoever else they think should be caught. I would never let any german shep ever out my front door that I have had.
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Hey, I understand. No need for an apology.
Just wondering why you would alter a part of my short quoted sentence???
Thanks a million.
That's all I was trying to say.
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Yeah, since the incident, I have been exiting through a back door that the dog has no access to. Hopefully I can use my front door in the future when I get better control of the dog.
I don't take chances like that. I'm 100 percent sure he won't run out, besides we live in the building but i won't. why risk it?
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|Yeah, you know now Danny, that he will act if it gets into his little coconut so what matters is what you do from this point on. Sometimes management gives the appearance of great training. Since you have kids and they probably have friends, I'd eliminate his ability to ever chase them. I'm not one to spend a lot of time on the why's or anything, I'd just put a leash on and teach him what he's going to do. I skimmed most of the thread, so I'm probably repeating what others have said.
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this is us too
in fact i dont even go out my front door if someone approaches is
i go through a gate to get to my side door and the dogs stay behind that gate
just too easy to mess up when your front yard is not fenced
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Hey Danny, for what its worth, what you just had happen is exactly why my dogs are restricted from being able to get to the front door. They listen, they have place commands, they show no inclination to chase anything they shouldnt. But thats just one of those things I choose management over training. I think you cited a few of my reasons, Ins. etc..
Thanks Steve, I'm trying and trying. He's is as stubborn as they come :-)
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When it comes to computer speakers, I think one should explain how/why they listen.
You have the more audiophile amongst us that listen for sound accuracy and would like a little sense of spaciousness. The other camp is those that want loud thumping sounds.
In a perfect speaker, youd have both.
The Logitech Z-4 sound constrained, as if the sound is trying to get out but just cant. Muddled is another word for it. Sure you get some oomph but is that enough? With a dealer cost of less than 87.00cnd$, you maybe able to get a bargain on these but at the price point in this article, this is not enough to recommend them.
Im not trying to be overly critical of this review, but I do know it will be indexed and get some traction but a problem with most computer speaker reviews is that they are done by the thin eared.
I mostly listen to music on my computer speakers, so 2.1 are fine for me, but a gamer may want more. These speakers were compared to Altec Lansing FX6021 (lacking midrange) and Logitech Z-2300 ( too much bass) and clearly had a different audio signature. Im not expecting much at this price point and they are above most speakers in this price range just not worthy of such a high rating.
|Ah, thanks Jen for reporting about that thump. It's good to know that it's not just my set of Z-4 that produces that little thump at power-off. And I might have given a bit exaggerated image of that sound with my babblings. It's not loud. Once again, great set of speakers for the price! ^^d
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Thank you Liz! And yes for the price these speakers are great. They will certainly look really sweet going with your pc, instead of those old beige things Super easy setup, great sound, I know you'll enjoy them! And I certainly know credit card abuse... I'll be abusing it again soon when I get me a new graphics card... and PC case... and...and...! XD
And alright, I see what you mean about the sound when you shut down the sound, and have noted it now as well. Its not so much a pop is it is a small thump from the subwoofer. And yeah, your explanation was more than great ^^ So thank you!
Yes, I think they sound even better after using them for as long as I have, and I just love them. I also listen with the bass turned up slightly higher than your basic level. ^^
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Thank you for the review. I'd been all over the place trying to decide which speakers to get for my PC. Just trying to get rid off the last beige bit on my desk after upgrading my PC seemed like an endless task. I liked the fact that the review was not all wattage and technical as it meant I could understand what on earth the speakers were like as a 'how they are to use' review is very helpful to dithering buyers like me with limited technobable knowlage.
It was these and a set of Creative speakers that also hooked up to my Zen Micro that I was dilly-dallying over, but I think these have won as they appear simple to use and set up and are great value for money. Of to order and abuse my poor credit card further.
Thank you lots,
"Technically I have pretty good idea what's causing it" - Ehm, I guess my phrasing wasn't very exact. It should've been like: I know this is pretty typical behavior for amplifiers, but I'd like to know if it's normal for the Z-4. ^^;
My guess is that it's because the operating voltage of the amplifier is dropped to zero immediately when powering off, and this, for some reason, causes the woofer to get a "burst of unstable voltage"(what? : D) as the capacitors* in the power source and amplifier are emptied suddenly. It would probably be audible from the main speakers too, but they're uncapable of producing that low sounds loud enough.
In most separate amplifiers this behavior is eliminated by designing the thing in a way, that prevents this behavior. tehee~ >_>'
Aaand the reason why I think it's 50 Hz - well, in addition that it sounds like it -, is because the mains current we get from wall outlet is 50 Hz Alternating Current. Oh and around here we have 230 V voltage in mains, so maybe the power source has a little design flaw compared to the US model?
*In case you don't know what a capacitor is, think it like this: Imagine an empty bucket. Now when we plug power in it(yes, we plug power in the bucket), it fills up and works as a reserve. If the subwoofer's amplifier happens to be under heavy use, it can take large amounts of power suddenly and that power is then drawn from the capacitor(s), or bucket(s) that are part of the power supply inside the Z-4's subwoofer case. In other words, the capacitors in power supply help the current sent to the amplifier to be stable.
There are other uses for capacitors too, but I think and hope, that this explanation was fitting in this case.
***By the way, I'm pretty sure that the sound quality has improved a bit now after using the speakers for a while, or "burning them in". And overall, now after having listened them more, I think the mids are pretty nicely audible especially if the Bass level is turned at ~1/3th or a little more instead at half(or more : o).
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|Thanks. ^^ I haven't noticed a thud coming from the woofer on the set I have, so I'm not sure. :| What do you think is causing it?
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First of all. Overall, a nice review. In my opinion, technicalities don't matter so much because we're not dealing with a costly separate speaker + amp setup here, but a very, very cost-effective sound solution, that can put out surprisingly good sound. ^^ ...And looks pretty good and is very practical. Did I mention I think they offer lots of bang for buck?
So... I have a question. Being a paranoid thing I am, I'd like to know do you other Z-4 owners get a slight "thud"(very short ~50 Hz sound) from subwoofer when powering off the speakers? This "thud"'s loudness is volume-independant. The cone makes a little movement at the same time.
Technically I have pretty good idea what's causing it, but I'd like to know is this normal behavior for The Logitech Z-4?
About the polly fill ...
Sounds like a smart idea, unfortunately these Logitech Z-4 satellites are ( afaik ) impossible to disassemble - they look hard sealed.
I guess 5 years of using Sennheiser headphones made me somewhat picky about the sound, even though I'm that kind of person who can't hear the difference between 64 kbps & 128 kbps sound. He He ...
What you might try, as i have done with an old pair of Altec Lancing ACS45.1 speakers i had, was disassemble the drivers, and put polly fill (the stuff that goes into craft projects like stuffed Animals, and pillows), and stuff an equal amount of it into the two satalites. THat in effect lowers the tuning frequency of the driver, and help pick up some of the midrange loss.
Although, thinking about it, im not so sure you could do that with this satalite driver arangement. So, hehe, i dont know why i mentioned that, but if you ever get another system with a larger satalive enclosure, it works fantasticly.
Can't really expect high class midrange out of those small speakers.
There's definetely a dip at 200Hz - 1kHz in the spectrum.
Replaced the satellites with new ones ( a pair of from my old home stereo ).
Much better midrange, but now I get too much bass and hardly any treble ... lol.
Unfortunately there isnt much you can really do about it, other then turn downt ehbass and the trebbile a little in hopes of bringing them down tot eh midranges level. But as the midrange on drivers that small is often -8db or more, its difficult to acheive that.
So you have to just live with it.
All things considered though, for the value in the speakers, you really cant go wrong.
Thanks for the review!
Living in Sweden ( a small country in the north ) there's a limited offering of decent X.1 speakers for < 100 bucks. But of course Logitech & Creative can be found, so I went ahead and bought this Logitech Z-4 2.1 speakers set.
a) The control unit is gold.
b) The super woofer ( bass ) sounds great, especially at ½ volume level ( or less ) with ½ bass level ( or less ).
c) The extra line-in & the headphone jack is what Jen McPherson said; "a handy feature". This feature adds to the value.
Is it me or does the satellites sound a bit weak in the lower midrange/midrange? Bass and treble feels overwhelming when pumping up the volume. Messing with the equalizer improves things somewhat, but ... nah still not perfect.
Maybe I'm asking to much, it's a fairly cheap one and overall I'm happy with the sound - this speaker system - this purchase.
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As far I as I know, you should be good to go. I believe these speakers only have the master sound cable to plug into the laptop. The other cords are for the satellites which plug into the woofer.
If worse came to worse, you'd have to buy a sound card for your PCMCIA slot, but I am assuming you should be good to go as is.
Hey, im looking into these speakers, and was wondering how they hook up to a laptop. Mine only has one input hole for speakers/headphones and one for the microphone, will i be able to use these speakers? or will i need to buy some sort of splitter? Thanks, i dont know much of anything about sound cards or speakers, so any help would be awesome. i only ask cuz i know some speakers have like 3 input wires that need to be plugged in at the same time for maximum sound output, and i dont think my computer can handle that.
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At 13-3.......they are the class of the West. Their Northwest division has 4 teams that could qualify for the playoffs, so they wanna stay on their toes. Don't think we'll catch them having an off-day since the Whizards already have. Pistons should lose the next four starting with this one..........OKC by 18 points.......
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But these are the new and improved Pistons. Bring on the Okies.
We've already had our win for this month. OKC by 18. That's right, I'm going with what Nemo said this time.
Ugly, ugly basketball. Westbrook is too strong for Brandon and too fast for Stuck. 2 fouls already for both at the end of one. The Thunder just posted Westbrook every time. Now Brandon's a good defender, but he's not strong enough yet to be able to handle RW's big butt down on the low block. He needed help and they left him on an island there. Stuckey's definition of running the offense is taking it full court and going one on one each and every time. Dude just committed a charge. Greg was 1 for 6 before going to the bench. We're so painfully overmatched here.
Yea, this is ugly. The 2nd quarter just started and we trail 36-14 and are outrebounded 17-6.
Down 22 at the opening moments of the 2nd quarter...... There's more at issue here.........than just handling someone's big butt...........
Austin, you MUST GO TO THE BALL. Seriously. That TO will be given to Brandon, but lazy Daye had a look on his face like "lol I was supposed to get that?"
Yeah, a lot of issues. But that big butt was a big reason why this game got out of hand so quickly. That dunk got their crowd into it and that was all she wrote. Daye finally hit a three though.
Wow - we're down 30 with 5 minutes in the 2nd quarter? OKC must be having an off night.
Yea, I saw that. When the defense is collapsing on your penetrating PG and you're a spot-up shooter, don't be surprised when the ball is coming your way.
We are getting destroyed. We have no offense and little defense. That is a bad combination.
Oooof! This is one ugly game. Highlight: Greg Monroe diving to the floor to fight with Westbrook for a loose ball. Lowlight: Rodney Stuckey getting blocked after driving into 4 defenders. Seriously, try passing the ball.
Perhaps Stuckey thought he was LeBron and he could just dunk on them all. NOT
Oh man...I came home, watched 5 mins of this...then, found something else to do for the night. Good god.
I want to puke watching this game..
Macklin made an Alley-oop .. I'm just happy we have a guy who can do this. I'm serious
It's... dreadful. It may be the worst defense I've ever seen a team play. To their credit, OKC is shooting out of their minds, but Detroit certainly isn't doing much to stop them.
Macklin is getting ridiculous. 4 points and 4 boards in 9 minutes. Knight and Monroe were -23, and he was +6. I know he's a garbage time superstar, but his +/- rating is inexcusably good, and light years ahead of the rest of the Pistons. He's +21 on the season. I'm not suggesting we start him, but he at least deserves a shot at the rotation. Worst case scenario is that the Pistons get blown out and he embarrasses himself, but that might just make him fit in more.
Definitely agree with that. In a game where garbage time unofficially started in the first quarter and officially did with 10 to go in the fourth with Knight checking out of the game for the final time, there are very, very few positives, but that highlight pick there was definitely one of them. And that play came with his team down 25 points. Stuckey. He's a decent scorer and foul drawing machine, but linwood's lowlight pick was emblematic of just what was wrong with him in this game. He just has too much Will Bynum in his game. He will, more often than not, try to go one on five with terrible results. Fast break opportunity, the defense gets back, it's 4 on 1, and a guy who's had a block in 30 straight games is sizing him up - a smart player would recognize that, pull it back and try to set something up - but Stuckey drove in there anyway and got his shot blocked. Fast break bucket the other way. He just has terrible awareness. It did look like he re-aggrevated his groin injury in the third though, and credit to him for playing through it despite being in obvious pain, but he shouldn't even have been playing. With the injuries piling up, the last thing this team needs is for him to go out for the year. The thing I've noticed with Brandon is he doesn't start games looking for his shot. He'll run the offense first, try to get his teammates (in this case Greg) going and if an opportunity presents itself he'll attack. He's made his share of bad passes, but he's gotten much better at recognizing what he needs to do since the start of the season. One of his turnovers really should've been credited to Daye on one of his drive and kicks. You're a shooter, keep your hands ready and meet that pass, Austin! He tried hard on defense, but Westbrook's big butt was just too much. He and Stuck probably should've switched as they were just dumping it down low and going isotayshaun every time. Brandon is a work in progress, as is the whole team, but I'm encouraged by the fact that he and Monroe never give up. They will play hard no matter what, and for a team that's gotten bashed for being lazy and complacent during the good years, that's a good sign going forward. Greg had a very poor shooting night, going 3 for 14, but credit to Ibaka and Perkins for doing a stellar job on him. They were giving him the ball a lot, and though he did get some good looks, this was just one of those nights for him. Nothing went right for him or the Pistons on either end for the entirety of the first half, going down 22 after one, but he played hard, rebounding the basketball and at one point poking the ball away from Ibaka after a rebound then diving to the floor and scrapping with Westbrook for the ball. (He came up with it.) His defense is his biggest weakness at this time; it's not terrible, and he tries hard, but that's where he needs the most work. His offense will come back eventually once he adjusts to the defense being geared to stop him. I can't say it enough: he needs help down there. JJ isn't the best nor most consistent player on this Pistons roster, but he plays hard. He played a lot in Garbage Time, but you wouldn't know it from watching his play. This is the type of effort the team needs from him and every player on the roster if the team is going to get back its winning ways. Tayshaun was okay. Not the best game for him as he got burned by KD, but that's to be expected. Durant is one of the league's best scorers, and he's both tall and long. Tay tried, but the guy won the scoring title twice for a reason. Max was Max. He was just overmatched. The whole team was. Walker Russell Jr. was a good pickup. Daye finally made a three. But it doesn't look like he took Tay's advice to heart. 10 shots in 19 minutes. And his body language is awful. I'm glad he got a chance to play, but I just don't have a lot of faith that he'll pull it together enough to be a good player. Macklin should probably get some more PT. It was in Garbage Time, but he looked decent, and this team has nothing to lose by at least playing him to see what he's got. Surprisingly more positive than I thought I would be, but this is also a game that was always going to be an expected loss.
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MISSION, Texas — Ten years after planning began to launch the World Birding Center in Texas' Lower Rio Grande Valley, the ambitious project to restore wildlife habitat and promote birding and nature tourism has taken off and is gaining altitude.
Comprised of nine sites strung along 120 miles of the Rio Grande corridor from Roma to South Padre Island, the WBC encompasses everything from saltwater flats and riparian woodlands to thick Tamaulipan thornscrub and palm-fringed resacas that attract an incomparable diversity of bird species.
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The Old Hidalgo Pumphouse combines preservation of a key part of the Valley's agricultural history with nature conservation through the creation of butterfly and hummingbird gardens, hike and bike paths and birding trails. The site's museum depicts how steam-driven irrigation pumps turned Hidalgo County into a year-round farming Mecca.
Quinta Mazatlán, a Spanish-style, 1930s adobe home just across from McAllen's international airport, serves as headquarters for the bustling city's wing of the WBC that opened in spring 2006. The 6,700-square-foot showplace anchors an eight-acre estate filled with more than 100 species of exotic and native trees, shrubs and flowers that attract scores of birds and other wildlife. Since it opened, more than 20,000 people have visited, many of them attending weddings and other special functions.
Roma Bluffs, the westernmost WBC location, occupies the old plaza of a once-thriving steamboat port sitting above the Rio Grande. The site includes a narrow band of river woodlands dominated by black willow, Texas sugarberry and stands of Texas ebony. An interpretive overlook offers a great view of the river, island and woodlands below, as well as views of the Mexican border town of Miguel Aleman.
South Padre Island and Nature Center bookends the string of WBC sites at the southern tip of the world's longest barrier island. A boardwalk nature trail adjacent to the city's convention center spans a marsh all the way to wildlife-rich Laguna Madre. Interpretive panels and bird blinds enhance the experience. A 10,000-square-foot visitor center, lengthening of the boardwalk and addition of two more bird blinds are on the drawing board.
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Love to get a longer lens for wildlife but pocket is empty,so would it worth getting 1x4 converter or stick to a 2 times converter,
or wait,
Started by djj1947, Mar 10 2012 06:47 AM
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:25 PM
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Love to get a longer lens for wildlife but pocket is empty,so would it worth getting 1x4 converter or stick to a 2 times converter,
or wait,
or wait,
Take it you mean a 1.4x as in 30+ years I've never seen a 4x converter (I actually own a Vivitar 3x converter - M42 fit.)
For best quality, the 1.4 would be better, but a 2x converter would give only slightly worse results (assuming that they are from the same manufacturer.)
An alternative - one I actually use - is to buy second hand. As well as collecting camera (20+ inc 7 35mm SLRs) I have a large collection of lenses, everything from a pentacon 29mm though to a Alpex 200mm. I use mount adapters for my Samsung NX10 which gives the lenses a 1.5x factor. Just to put it in context, I bought a Vivitar Series 1 135mm f2.3 (Konica/AR fit) for just £8 from a local charity shop. Add £20 for a KAR to NX adapter and I've got a superb sports lens - Think how much an f2.3 200mm lens would cost for a Nikon or Canon: 4 digits? I spent £30 inc postage (for the mount.)
You didn't say what camera you've got, but Nikon and Canon sell M42 adapters, and most EVIL/CSC cameras have a large range of adapters available. You just need to ensure the lens has manual stop-down of the aperture.
FYI, I have an M42 adapter for My EOS 650 and Rebel (EOS1000). And I use Most of my cameras (that I can actually get film for,) though I do prefer the Samsung. No development costs...
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