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I like watching with the original voice actors and I can never, for the life of me, watch dubs. I find subs much better.
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Psycho 101
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I PREFER dubs but also watch subs without any reservations. I prefer dubs because I like to be able to engross myself as much as possible in a show to give it a fair rating. I find it easier to notice more of the subtle nuances of a show when I can just hear the lines without reading text as well. Then I can put more attention into noticing smaller things like backgrounds, the sound and music and affect it has on the show at any given moment, landscapes, character facials expressions, etc. If I have to listen AND read text it's taking away some of that attention and I can miss things. Often times with subs I watch a second time to watch for those little things I normally might not miss with a dub. However, I certainly don't mind subs in the slightest and often when I re-watch a show with a dub I re-watch it with the subs on instead the second time around. I have always been at a loss for words with the pure hate and rage this topic gets often. As if simply being happy to have anime to watch period isn't enough for many. One day there might not be and then the sub vs dub argument won't matter will it?
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Location: USA
I chose dubs, and my reason is simple: I can actually look at the whole screen. I tried watching subbed, but I could only look at the bottom of the screen, reading the subtitles.
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Location: Mexico
Subs, undisputably. Only God knows how much Japanese I've learned through watching subbed Anime. Besides dub completely breaks the "anime mood" for me.
I've watched a decent variety of dub. Spanish dub, latino dub, and a couple of American dub. Gungrave I watched it in Spanish dub and if it weren't such an amazing show I wouldn't for the life of me have been able to take it seriously. That godawful accent whenever they said "Brandon Heat" (10 times per episode) killed my ears. The Latino dubs are usually low budget, I remember Saint Seiya changed the VA's for the main characters every episode or so during the 12 houses arc. On the other hand, the Rurouni Kenshin dub had less than 5 different VAs doing all the characters, in particular, 2 girls, one for Kaoru, and another one for the rest of the females :/. As for the American dub, I can't say I've watched much of that, but I've heard bits of Bleach American dub and I just can't. The pronunciation is so wrong it should be illegal. Why is it so hard to say Ichigo-h instead of Ichigooow?
That being said, I find it psychologically impossible to watch Card Captor Sakura in subs. It's my one and only exception, I really love the Latino dub for that one.
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Location: Body:Santa Barbara, CA ~ Heart:New Orleans, LA
Subs. Definitelty, subs. The cultural experience doesn't feel complete with an English audio track. On top of that, I've been formally learning Japanese for some years, now. So, it helps to continue building up listening skills. I can honestly say that, in my opinion, dubs suck, massively. Playing the Anime Quote Guessing Game, I've heard clips from a number of modern dubs, thanks to the YouTube links to dubbed scenes provided by Raftina; they all sound terrible. The voices generally sound cheesy, but they usually have nothing on the acting. Ugh. Also, I almost forgot about the translations being more accurate in subs, as opposed to dubs, which 9.5 times out of 10 provide dialog from a re-written script, with more changes than the King James Translation.
They just aren't for me.
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I voted dub, but it really depends on the dub voice acting. If both versions have good voice acting, I'll watch the dub, since I want to be able to appreciate that. If both versions are poor, I'll watch the sub, since bad voice acting bothers me less if I can't understand it. If both are OK, I usually pick the dub. Unless, you know, only one option is available or I have to watch it without sound. Given a choice, I like dubs. Some are unwatchable, but a good dub enhances the experience.
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One thing I find interesting about this topic is it's one that only exist in the anime fandom. In all the film classes I've taken and all the film blogs I read, not a single person showed interest in watching a dubbed version of a foreign film. Ladri di Biciclette, Rashomon, La Jetée, Lola Rennt, whatever it was they never brough it up. If you brought up wanting to watch one dubbed with English actors I imagine you'd get laughed out of the room and your film critic badge taken away. I wonder why some anime fans feel it's acceptable to dub a foreign work. Maybe it's a Grandfather Clause thing because they saw dubbed anime as a kid, so they let it slide later in life and think it's perfectly valid presentation of a foreign work.
Anyway, subbed for me, I find the only true way to judge something is how it's originally presented with the original actors, directors, writers, script, and mood. Especially since it seems like far too many dubs take too many liberties these days. The people attached end up becoming more like writers rather than translators.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Well, even the best foreign shows become boring to some people if they're watching it only in a language they don't understand...
Hence, the reason dubs are made so that people will be more interested in enjoying shows from other countries.
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Location: Middle of Nowhere, USA
For starters, I don't think most anime fans care much about their critics badge. We're mainly watching for entertainment, not to dissect it and write a 10 page thesis on it. People are going to watch whatever way gives them the most entertainment, whether that way is the original and "truer" way or not.
Then there's the fact that the vast majority of the population absolutely refuses to watch anything with subtitles. It would be way harder (and often impossible) to get someone to watch anime with subtitles if they're not use to them. Without dubs, anime would become even more niche because it would be so much harder to introduce it to others.
Finally, I think the largest reason is the simplicity of the mouths in anime. Characters' mouths are either open or closed, they don't bother animating anything more specific than that. Matching mouth flaps is relatively easy in anime dubbing, and it usually looks pretty natural. Making it look anywhere close to natural in live action is almost impossible because the mouth movements are more detailed.
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Location: Mexico
While I mostly agree witht this -I prefer subbed media over dubbed because I feel I can enjoy it better- I do have to say that I've always preferred watching American animated movies in the Latino dubbed version (particularly Pixar/Dreamworks). I also have been refraining myself from watching Legend of Korra, because I'm waiting for the Latino dub to come out-I loved the original Avatar Latino dub, it was perfect. While anime Latino dub tends to be low budget and overall crappy -save few exceptions like Card Captor Sakura-, the dub for movies is usually fantastic, especially for movies aimed at kids. Also, I just can't get myself used to watching any cartoon speaking in English. It's simply beyond my power
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Location: Colorado, USA
I think that is because those people are taking film classes and writing film blogs. They are not ordinary folk, like myself, who just want to watch a movie as a pleasant way to spend some time and do not have any interest at all in the history or artistic merit of the work.
I have very little interest in any foreign work other than anime, but if I am interested enough to watch something I would prefer that it be dubbed.
I neither have nor want a film critics badge.
I do not feel that it is acceptable. I feel that it is desirable, sometimes necessary. The reason is simply that the show is, usually, more enjoyable and entertaining for me with a dub.
And I am not interested in judging anime.
It seems like we not only have different tastes but also entirely different reasons for watching anime.
I wonder is the reason why the sub v dub argument sometimes gets out of hand is because people have different reasons for watching.
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A lot of countries get their foreign movies subbed into the local language - the exceptions being the markets too poor or small to make it profitable. I'm sure you'll find plenty of Germans arguing that Hollywood movies should only be watched in the original English with subtitles as a necessary evil at best, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority watch it overdubbed. On the other hand, things like K-dramas are only ever available subbed because no matter how wealthy the country they'll never have the market size needed to sustain a dub.
Anime is weird because it teeters right on that precipice of being mainstream enough to warrant a dub for shows but being niche enough that the original-only crowd can be heard loud and clear.
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Luckily I don't think dubbed versions of those exist.
Well La Jetee could work dubbed since it's basically narration but the rest...shudders.
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Honestly I'm surprised this isn't obvious to you. Of course no one would want to see a foreign film dubbed, their live action and therefore it's obviously going to be extremely distracting to hear a voice that obviously isn't the same as the person you seeing on screen and that can take away from the experience. With animation that's obviously not an issue and therefore so long as the english VA's can act and tbe scripting is fine your generally not losing out one way or the other and it basically comes down to preference
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Heavily depends on the dub. If it's of decent-to-high quality, I'll watch the dub, since I like to not be dependent on looking at subtitles at the bottom of the screen in order to understand what the characters are saying, and thereby be able to put all my focus on the visual content of the show. I do put on the DVD's subtitles on, though, so that if a line feels off or poorly translated, I can look at the subtitles and note the difference.
If the dubbing is poor, I'll just switch to the sub and just put up with having to focus on the subtitles.
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Fri, 21 Jul 2017 23:17:23 +0000Democrats are reporting that on July 21, 2017, the Senate Parliamentarian ruled that a number of provisions of the Republican Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA) violate the Byrd Rule, and thus cannot be passed by the Senate using the reconciliation act procedure through which Congress has been trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA). The Byrd Rule requires, among other things, that a provision adopted through a reconciliation act affect the revenues or outlays of the United States in a manner than it not merely incidental to another purpose. A provision that the Parliamentarian rules to be impermissible under the Byrd rule is subject to a point of order, which can only be overruled, according to tradition, by a 60-vote majority. The provisions that the Parliamentarian ruled may be stricken if raised by a point of order include: The provision defunding Planned Parenthood; The provisions prohibiting the use of small business tax credits and individual market premium tax credits to pay for health plans that cover abortions; The sunset of an essential health benefit coverage requirement for Medicaid plans; The section funding cost-sharing reductions (CSRs), which the Parliamentarian ruled was redundant of current law, which already funds them (this ruling seems contrary to the lower court's ruling in House v. Price that money had not been appropriated for the CSRs, but is consistent with the belief that the CSRs are already built into the budget baseline, thus an appropriation does not affect the deficit. A bill to clarify the appropriation situation could, of course, be passed separately from the reconciliation act; The six-month waiting period for individuals who have not maintained continuous coverage; The provision sunsetting the federal medical loss ratio requirement and allowing states to set the medical loss ratio; A provision, that has been removed from the most recent version of the BCRA, that might have allowed states to rollover unused Medicaid block grant funds and possibly use them for other purposes; The "Buffalo Bailout" which would have limited the ability of New York State to require counties other than those in New York City to contribute funding to the state's Medicaid program (the ruling on this provision should caution against including further state-specific provisions in future versions of the legislation); A provision grandfathering certain Medicaid waivers and prioritizing Medicaid Home and Communit-Based Services Waivers; A provision requiring a report by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to Congress regarding the preferability of adopting a different system for reporting Medicaid data; and, A section requiring HHS to consult with the states before finalizing Medicaid rules. The Parliamentarian upheld against a Byrd rule challenge, A provision allowing state the option of imposing work requirement on Medicaid enrollees who are not disabled, elderly, pregnant, or within 60 days of giving birth; A provision granting $10 billion to Medicaid non-expansion states; The state stability and innovation fund, which imposes abortion restrictions by funding the program through the Children's Health Insurance Program, which already prohibits abortion funding; A provision adjusting per capita cap targets for low-spending and high-spending states to promote equity; The permanent repeal of the cost-sharing reduction program beginning in 2020; and, A provision requiring states to include information on per capita enrollment and expenditures, psychiatric hospital expenditures, and children with complex conditions in their Medicaid expenditure reports. The Parliamentarian is still reviewing: The provision expanding section 1332 to remove the current guardrails on state innovation waivers; The provisions allowing small business association health plans that would be regulated as large group health plans, largely free from state regulation; The provision allowing age rati[...]
Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:44:22 +0000The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) produced cost estimates for two of the three versions of the Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA), sponsored by Senate Republican leaders. A comparison of the June 26 and July 20 estimates confirms that the two BCRA versions do not differ substantially from each other. CBO has not estimated the impact of the much-discussed amendment to the BCRA sponsored by Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), which is included in the July 13 draft. That provision would allow insurers to sell products to consumers that are out of compliance with the requirements of the Affordale Care Act (ACA), as long as they also offer at least one ACA-compliant product at each metal level. The July 20 version of the BCRA incorporates several major policy changes from the June version, including: The new taxes on high-income families imposed by the Affordable Care Act (ACA) would be retained. Those taxes, the Medicare payroll tax of 0.9 percent on the wages of high earners and the 3.8 percent tax on the non-wage incomes of the same households, would have been repealed by the earlier version of the BCRA. An additional $70 billion would be added to the State Stability and Innovation Fund. Funds from Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) could be used to pay the premiums of high-deductible health insurance plans purchased on the non-group market. A new $45 billion fund would be established to support state efforts in combatting the opioid epidemic. This fund does not figure prominently in CBO's estimates of the coverage and premium effects of the legislation. CBO's assessment of the most recent BCRA draft includes the following key findings: The legislation would reduce federal spending by $903 billion over ten years and reduce federal revenues by $483 billion over the same period. The net deficit reduction over the coming decade would be $420 billion. CBO estimated that the June version of the BCRA would have reduced federal revenue by $701 billion over ten years, or $218 billion more than the tax cuts in the current version of the legislation. CBO estimates that the revised BCRA would increase the number of people going without health insurance by 15 million in 2018 and 22 million in 2026. These estimates are essentially unchanged from CBO's previous estimate. The largest spending reduction in the revised BCRA is in the Medicaid program. CBO estimates the bill would reduce Medicaid spending by $756 billion over ten years, of which $575 billion comes from pulling back on the enhanced federal matching rate for the ACA's expansion of the program. The proposal to impose per-person limits on future federal expenditures for the program accounts for most of the remaining savings. CBO expects Medicaid enrollment to decline by 10 million people in 2021 and 15 million in 2026. CBO expects that terminating the penalties associated with the individual mandate would lead to large-scale withdrawals from coverage and additional adverse selection in the individual insurance market. Those changes would not be so severe as to lead to a breakdown in the market. As with current law, the subsidies provided in the BCRA would be sufficient to ensure enough participation to keep the market stable, although at lower enrollment levels. The revised BCRA would increase average premiums in the individual market before 2020, and then reduce them in the ensuing years. The increase would occur primarily because of the elimination of the penalties associated with the individual mandate, which would lead some healthier insurance enrollees to exit the market. CBO expects average premiums in the individual insurance market to increase by 10 percent in 2019. Beginning in 2020, the BCRA would tie the restructured premium tax credits to plans with an actuarial of 58 percent, compared to 70 percent under current law. As a result, average premiums in 2026 would be about 25 percent below the average under current law. The BCRA [...]
Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:57:09 +0000The US exhibits a remarkable pipeline of biopharmaceutical innovation, with 170 new drugs and biologics launched into the market between 2011 and 2015 and another 22 drugs approved in 2016. A striking feature of the pharmaceutical pipeline is the large percentage launched for the treatment of small "orphan" indications, defined by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as including fewer than, often many fewer than, 200,000 patients in the United States. Almost half (74) of the products approved by the FDA between 2011 and 2015 were for orphan indications, twice the number (36) approved during the same period by the European Medicines Agency and a remarkable increase over the total of 35 orphan products approved by the FDA in all the years prior to the Orphan Drug Act of 1983. In 2016, 41 percent of the novel drug approvals were for rare diseases (nine of the 22 approvals). The surge in orphan drugs is a result of public policies that influence development costs and market exclusivity, which in turn influence the prices that can be charged. Early-stage investors in the life sciences pay close attention to policy signals in deciding how to allocate their capital. The policy decisions made yesterday influence investment decisions made today, and hence the direction of innovation tomorrow. Bay City Capital is a venture capital partnership, founded in 1997, that has invested in over 100 life sciences firms worldwide and currently manages $1.3 billion in capital. In recent years it has focused increasingly on drugs rather than medical devices and diagnostics and, within pharmaceuticals, to those addressing narrow rather than broad patient populations — the firm now mostly looks for biotech startups targeting drugs in indications that can be developed all the way to FDA approval, such as orphan areas that enjoy favorable policy treatment with high revenue potential. The benefits of venture capital investment in orphan drugs are very important for patients suffering from rare conditions. As investments shift away from treatments affecting large numbers of patients, however, the potential impact of innovation on public health may be reduced. Even modest improvements in therapies affecting cardiovascular disease, diabetes, or other large indications would offer major population health benefits. In the past, for example, some startups financed by Bay City developed cardiovascular treatments up through early clinical studies, but they were unable to secure a partner to finance the large clinical trials necessary for FDA approval. This post looks at some of the policy and market considerations that encourage Bay City Capital and firms like it to focus their resources on orphan drugs. Policy Initiatives That Reduce Development Cost The FDA requires substantial evidence of effectiveness for a new drug approval, with the standard requirement including two adequate and well-controlled clinical trials. However, the FDA uses its judgment to determine the type and quantity of data needed to meet its standards. In reviewing orphan drugs the FDA routinely allows fewer than two controlled studies, smaller studies, and/or studies that use novel endpoints. Between 2009 and 2013, 60 percent of orphan drugs were approved based on a single trial, compared to only 28 percent for drugs addressing more common conditions. The size of the orphan drug trials typically is much smaller than for non-orphan candidates, involving dozens or hundreds, rather than thousands, of patients. For example, Ravicti™, a drug for Urea Cycle Disorder developed by Bay City portfolio company Hyperion Therapeutics, received approval based on a pivotal efficacy trial that included 45 patients and long-term efficacy and safety studies that totaled 100 patients. Drug firms developing cancer treatments increasingly are launching them in small sub-indications demarcated by biomarkers or clinical criteria t[...]
Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:27:35 +0000July 21 Update. The July 21, 2017 Congressional Budget Office report did not score the Cruz amendment to the BCRA. The Cruz amendment would allow insurers to sell plans that would not be required to comply with a number of ACA requirements—including guaranteed issue, community rating, preexisting condition coverage, and the essential health benefits—as long as the insurers sold plans that complied with the ACA. It is reported that the CBO would have to take some time to produce a score, in part no doubt because the ACA non-compliant coverage permitted by the Cruz amendment might not qualify as health insurance coverage under CBO definitions. On July 21, 2017, however, Senators Lee (R-UT) and Johnson (R-WI) circulated to their colleagues a Dear Colleague letter to which they attached an analysis of the Cruz amendment apparently done by the Department of Health and Human Services. (The letter also attaches an analysis of premiums under the ACA done by McKinsey but does not claim that McKinsey is responsible for the Cruz amendment analysis.) The analysis is remarkable because it shows enrollment growing and premiums falling—even for ACA-compliant plans—under the Cruz amendment. A wide range of observers, including insurers, actuaries, insurance regulators, and consumers have criticized the Cruz amendment as unworkable. Much of the methodology on which the HHS analysis is based is proprietary and was not disclosed, so it is difficult to verify. The analysis has been criticized, however, on a number of counts. It compares premiums for a 40-year old under the Cruz amendment with average premiums for a 47-year old under the ACA; it incorporates some elements of the ACA and others of the BCRA in its comparisons in a way that distorts the final analysis, and it ignores some problematic features of the BCRA and assuming away problems that would be created by others. The manifold problems with the analysis, which seems to have been written to support the Cruz amendment, rather than to provide impartial analysis, demonstrate again why it is essential to have a nonpartisan, impartial, referee like the CBO to analyze the effects of proposed legislation, a point made in a July 21 letter to Congress signed by all eight former directors of the CBO. The Latest BCRA Score On July 20, 2017, the Senate Budget committee released the latest version of the Better Care Reconciliation Act (summary), which was sent to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) for scoring. It is basically identical to the second BCRA draft posted on July 13, 2017 (which was not separately scored by the CBO) except that it drops the Cruz amendment and includes a couple of small changes in the Medicaid section. The July 13 draft added $70 billion in state long-term stabilization funding to the original BCRA which the Cruz amendment then shifted to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to pay to insurers that offered Affordable Care Act compliant plans. By dropping the Cruz amendment, the July 20 draft leaves these funds with the states, and thus increases state long-term stabilization funding by that amount over the July 13 draft. Minutes later on July 20, 2017, the CBO released an analysis of the July 20 BCRA version, as did the Joint Committee on Taxation. The biggest change in their analysis from their first BCRA score, which analyzed the original June 22 version, is that the July 20 version would reduce the federal budget deficit by $483 billion over ten years compared to the $321 billion deficit reduction in the original June 22 BCRA. The biggest reason for the change in the deficit score is that the July 20 version drops provisions of the original BCRA repealing the ACA's Medicare payroll tax surcharge and unearned income taxes on high wage earners, which would have resulted in the loss of $231 billion in tax revenues. This reduction in lost rev[...]
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In May of 2017, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that it intended to make a new proxy direct enrollment pathway available for HealthCare.gov enrollees for 2018. The guidance provided that direct enrollment (DE) entities would have to be audited by third-party auditors for operational readiness before they could begin offering proxy DE. On July 18, 2017, CMS released at its REGTAP.info website (registration required) a series of frequently asked questions regarding the Third Party Operational Readiness Reviews (ORRs) for the Proxy Direct Enrollment Pathway.
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A second FAQ states that a DE entity may allow third-party agents and brokers who are registered with the federally facilitated exchange to use its approved proxy DE pathways to assist consumers in applying for premium tax credits and cost-sharing reduction payments and for selecting qualified health plans, but only if the third-party has its own proxy DE agreement with CMS. A DE entity may not embed tools or programming techniques in its proxy DE website directing consumers to unapproved websites. Each DE entity is responsible for ensuring compliance with the terms and conditions of its proxy DE agreement by all downstream third-party agents and brokers using its proxy DE pathway.
A third FAQ reiterates CMS guidance that proxy DE enrollment is only available for simple enrollments, and not for complex situations like multi-tax filer households, applications where a Social Security Number is not provided, or applications with non-United States-born citizens.
Finally, a fourth FAQ states that DE entities participating in the proxy pathway must support all household scenarios supported by the streamline application user interface. If in its readiness testing a DE entity identifies an eligibility scenario it cannot support in the proxy DE pathway, it must notify CMS and provide an alternate way for consumers to have their eligibility determined, such as using the exchange, marketplace call center, or the traditional direct enrollment pathway.
Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:03:37 +0000As President Trump and Congressional Republicans regroup following the collapse of their efforts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act they should look not only at what went wrong with their legislation but also past efforts to reform American health care. While many things went wrong, the biggest stumbling block to the GOP efforts this year was the attempt to dramatically change the Medicaid program, which serves some 70 million Americans. Both the House-passed and pending Senate bills would have replaced the 52-year-old entitlement program with capped federal spending and a state-run block grant. The federal government would continue to share in the program's costs but annual growth would be tightly limited, leaving states with the job of balancing the health needs of their citizens with the new fiscal realities. While only tangentially related to the ACA, the Medicaid caps and block grants were too much to swallow for many moderate Republicans. For most of its history, Medicaid took a back seat to Medicare, the health benefits program for seniors and others. But now, due to its growth in size and cost Medicaid has gained so much clout that it should be considered the new "third rail" of American politics. To be sure, some politicians have long seen Medicaid as target ripe for cutting federal spending. But many more are leery of touching the program and facing the wrath of the people who elected them. The difficulties encountered by the President, House Speaker Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky are eerily similar to those faced by the nation's 40th President, Ronald Reagan. Instead of providing a roadmap to victory, the story of Reagan's efforts is a cautionary tale. Past Is Prologue In 1981, perhaps Reagan's most successful year of domestic policy legislative victories, a centerpiece of his budget was a plan to repeal the Medicaid entitlement and replace it with a state-run block grant. Federal spending for Medicaid would be sharply reduced and states would be required to make up the difference by cutting millions from the program. Sound familiar? Reagan included his Medicaid block grant proposal in his sweeping plan to cut government spending while reducing taxes across the board. With a new GOP majority in the Senate and a near-majority in the House, Reagan won a string of significant victories that reshaped U.S. domestic policy in ways that moved the nation dramatically to the right and set the tone for the next 20 years of Congressional debates about deficit spending and tax relief. Reagan asked Congress, for the first time, to use a new budget "reconciliation" process to consider his spending and tax policies. The Senate, behind the leadership of Finance Committee Chairman Bob Dole of Kansas, approved the Medicaid block grant as part of its budget reconciliation bill. In the House, however, Reagan's plan ran into a solid brick wall thanks to the wily leadership of a young Henry Waxman. The California Democrat had only recently taken the helm of the House Health Subcommittee and was determined to preserve the Medicaid entitlement even as he gave way on a number of Reagan's other health care priorities. Following a heated debate that June, the House approved Reagan's blueprint for spending cuts with one glaring exception. The Medicaid block grant proposal was pulled from the larger bill and House members were asked to vote on it in isolation. Waxman and his allies worked hard to garner support from governors of both parties, as well as organizations representing doctors, hospitals, drug companies, and others to defeat Reagan's plan. At the same time, House Republican leaders tried to win the day by tweaking the Medicaid block grant proposal. In the end, the Republicans withdrew the Medicaid reform [...]


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This paper uses an overlapping generations model to analyze monetary policy in a two-country model with asymmetric shocks. Agents insure against risk through the exchange of a complete set of real securities. Each central bank is able to commit to the contingent monetary policy rule that maximizes domestic welfare. In an attempt to improve their country's terms of trade of securities, central banks choose to commit to costly inflation in favorable states of nature. In equilibrium the effects on the terms of trade wash out, leaving both countries worse off. Countries facing asymmetric shocks may therefore gain from monetary cooperation.
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canyon_wren 4 years, 4 months ago
A good. thoughtful sermon. Most church services anymore just seem to be "social clubs" where you see good friends and are entertained (sometimes)with relatively modern music (and very few of the traditional hymns). I would prefer a more silent, reverential setting but in my community, that doesn't seem to be available.
Thinking_Out_Loud 4 years, 4 months ago
Check out the Oread Friends Meeting. They offer a traditional Quaker-style silent service.
Kyle Neuer 4 years, 4 months ago
I get more out of a long walk in the woods.
trinity 4 years, 4 months ago
Whole grain communion wafers&good quality sacramental wine.
nocrybabies 4 years, 4 months ago
An answered prayer. So far, none.
melott 4 years, 4 months ago
That there are lots of people holding their arms up and waving them back and forth with their eyes closed.
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The church service is (imo) not what's really important. I "get " out of it, what I put into it. The service itself is a way to give God His due glory. It really is ALL about Him.
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