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Find out what the candidates for Pennsylvania governor have to say to Jewish voters in an exclusive Jewish Exponent candidates' forum.
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett got a bit of good news last week when the State Supreme Court declared that Robert Guzzardi, a fellow Republican, was not eligible to run.
But even without a primary challenger, the incumbent is likely not breathing easy as he waits to see which of the four candidates emerge from the Democratic primary on May 20.
The Democratic contenders are: York County businessman Tom Wolf, who is leading the polls; U.S. Rep. Allyson Schwartz and state Treasurer Rob McCord, who are both Jewish; and former Environmental Protection Secretary Katie McGinty.
They have all taken Corbett to task on many issues, from education to health care.
And while they have tried to gain the Jewish community's support with a variety of appearances, we wanted to dig deeper and get their direct responses on issues important to our readers.
To that end, the Jewish Exponent submitted a list of questions to each of the Democratic contenders. Below, you will find the responses from Wolf and Schwartz. Find the words of McCord and McGinty here.
TOM WOLF, Age 65, York County, CEO of Wolf Organization
Gov. Corbett has been criticized for cutting funding to public schools, a charge he says is a myth. What concrete steps would you take to help fix Pennsylvania's ailing public schools?
I support our state's public education system, and I know that Pennsylvania is home to some of the best public schools in the country. My two daughters attended York County public schools, where they developed a strong academic foundation that prepared them to go on to top-notch colleges and build successful careers. But i also know that there is still a lot of work to be done.
I will make education a priority. I believe we have not only a constitutional obligation to provide for a thorough and efficient public education system but also have a rational self-interest to ensure our youngest residents receive an education that will allow them to reach their full potential. Building a good public education system is not just the right thing to do, it is what drives a healthy, vibrant economy – something that's good for all of us in Pennsylvania.
As governor, I will restore Gov. Corbett's $1 billion in cuts to education, implement a fair funding formula, and institute reforms to help local school districts innovate and improve student performance. I will fight every day to build a strong public education system so that we can keep, create and attract good jobs right here in Pennsylvania.
The affordability of Jewish day schools is a major issue for some in the Jewish community. Would you maintain, increase or decrease the current EITC and OSTC tax-credit programs to help middle- and low-income families who wish to send their children to private schools. Do you have others ideas for helping such families?
As governor, I will take a look at all of the state's tax credits to ensure we are not just rewarding special interests. I do not think that public tax dollars should be diverted from our public schools to create a back-door voucher system. I will take a close look at both of these programs and examine how they impact public education funding.
Holocaust education advocates are divided over whether to support legislation mandating that the subject be taught in Pennsylvania public schools. Some say there is little chance of such legislation passing and thus they are in favor of a bill with no mandate that they say would still lead to more students learning about the Holocaust. Would you as governor approve legislation with a Holocaust education mandate and would you also sign a bill that provides money but no mandate for such education?
I believe we must raise our youngest residents to be compassionate, tolerant and knowledgeable about the world outside of their community, outside of Pennsylvania and outside of the United States. I know from my work with the York Jewish Community Center that organizations are doing an exemplary job of partnering with schools and community organizations to ensure that future generations continue to learn about the Holocaust.
I know that our schools also need to provide developmentally appropriate lessons about such atrocities as the Holocaust, the genocide in Rwanda and the human rights abuses currently happening throughout the world. As governor, I will work with key stakeholders to evaluate what lessons are already being taught in our schools and what steps we need to take to ensure we are doing a responsible job of covering these issues. Additionally, I will explore the costs associated with Senate Bill 1523 as I believe we cannot continue to pass unfunded mandates.
Do you feel there are sufficient environmental and safety protections and that the state is receiving enough tax benefits from energy companies that are fracking in the state? If not, what would you do differently?
No, I do not. With Pennsylvania sitting on one of the largest deposits of natural gas in the world, I believe the Marcellus Shale must be a key component of any plan for Pennsylvania's energy future. We must ensure that we take advantage of this resource and opportunity in a way that benefits all Pennsylvanians and protects our water and environment.
I know we have an obligation to get this new energy era right. The urgent challenge facing our state leaders, now and into the future, is how to manage this remarkable natural resource so that its benefits are broadly shared by the residents of Pennsylvania for many years to come.
I will take a responsible approach to natural gas development that includes enacting a 5 percent extraction tax so that we make gas companies pay their fair share and have the resources to fund schools and other key priorities. If done right, natural gas development can be a bridge to a clean energy future and create good=paying energy jobs.
In addition to a 5 percent extraction tax, I will protect our environment and hold drillers accountable by enacting practical regulatory actions, and increasing funding for the Department of Environmental Protection so that it is sufficiently staffed and able to provide proper oversight of drillers. I will work to bring greater transparency to the fracking process by requiring drillers to publicly disclose chemicals used in the hydraulic fracturing process, and lifting the current gag order on physicians.
Additionally, I will support an increase in the annual permit application fee as well as an increase in the fee for drilling on state lands. Lastly, I will continue to support drilling moratoriums on public lands and the Delaware Valley River Basin, and respect the right of local communities to say when and here drilling takes place.
The governors of some states, including Maryland and Delaware, have worked to cultivate strong relationships with the Jewish state. Should Pennsylvania do more culturally, economically or otherwise to build a relationship with Israel. If so, what?
I believe it is to our advantage to build a strong relationships with business leaders all over the world — including those in Israel. The country has one of the strongest high-tech sectors in the world, and, as we work to strengthen ours, I know we can learn a lot from Israeli business leaders and entrepreneurs.
Buildings strong relationships with Israel and countries all over the world will allow us to develop new partnerships, explore new trade opportunities, capitalize on the innovative products being developed outside of the United States, and attract new entrepreneurs and good paying, middle-class jobs to Pennsylvania. As governor, I will collaborate and work to strengthen our ties with Israel through trade missions and the creation of a high-tech exchange program, and by promoting cultural exchanges between Pennsylvania's and Israel's arts and culture communities.
ALLYSON SCHWARTZ, Age 65, Jenkintown, U.S. Rep. from Pennsylvania's 13th District
Gov. Corbett has been criticized for cutting funding to public schools, a charge he says is a myth. What concrete steps would you take to help fix Pennsylvania's ailing public schools?
It is not a "myth" that Governor Corbett cut funding for public schools. Corbett cut the amount of funding that Pennsylvania school districts received from Harrisburg by almost $1 billion in his first budget for 2011-12, and those cuts have been replicated in every budget since then. This is indisputable.
Nothing that state government does is more important than providing quality public education. As the mother of two Philadelphia public school graduates, I know how important public education is to our families. I'm the only candidate with a proven record of leadership in education, including having served for nearly a decade as the Democratic Chair of the Senate Education Committee. I worked on two fair funding formulas, pushed for increased investment in education, and traveled the state to meet with teachers, parents and other educational stakeholders.
As a longtime champion of early education, I also introduced state Senate legislation to provide state reimbursement for full-day kindergarten. In Congress, I am working closely with Sen. Bob Casey, on the Prepare All Kids Act which creates a Prekindergarten Incentive Fund to award grants to states to establish, expand or enhance voluntary high-quality pre-K programs.
Pennsylvania's future depends upon our determination to recommit ourselves to public education. I know that economic success begins in the classroom, and as governor, I will be committed to ensuring that all of Pennsylvania's children have access to quality public education, regardless of where they live. In my first term, I will reverse Gov. Corbett's nearly $1 billion of extreme cuts by growing the economy, reprioritizing the existing budget, and drawing upon new resources from the natural gas tax.
Secondly, to ensure that students start school ready to learn, I will make a transformational commitment to early education by establishing universal, quality preschool for 4-year-olds, expanding access to full-day kindergarten and reducing class sizes in kindergarten through third grade.
Thirdly, the quality of a student's education should not depend on where the student lives in our state. As governor, I will partner with all stakeholders to determine the necessary level of state support, to ensure that all students receive a quality education. I will establish a transparent funding formula that recognizes student and school district characteristics, considers local effort, and provides sustained, adequate and fair funding to every school in the commonwealth.
The affordability of Jewish day schools is a major issue for some in the Jewish community. Would you maintain, increase or decrease the current Educational Improvement Tax Credit and Opportunity Scholarship Tax Credit program to help middle- and low-income families who wish to send their children to private schools.
I will maintain the Educational Improvement Tax Credit and ensure that it benefits the greatest number of students and improves student performance. I will also review the impact of the newer Opportunity Scholarship Tax Credit program.
As a former senior member of the House Budget Committee, I know that budgets are statements of our priorities and principles. As governor, I will ensure that my budgets include the necessary investments to provide greater opportunity to our children and families.
Advocates of Holocaust education are divided over whether to support legislation mandating that the subject be taught in Pennsylvania public schools. Some say there is little chance of such legislation passing and thus they favor a bill with no mandate that they say would still lead to more students learning about the Holocaust. Would you as governor approve legislation with a Holocaust education mandate and would you also sign a bill that provides money but no mandate for such education?
I am the daughter of a Holocaust survivor. My mother, Rene Perl, came to America to find hope, opportunity and security, so this issue is deeply personal for me. I feel strongly that we must educate all of our children about the Holocaust and genocide. As governor, I will push for and sign legislation that requires Holocaust education in public schools from sixth through 12th grade. The Department of Education should provide guidance for schools in setting curriculum. The state should not make this an unfunded mandate, but should provide budgetary support.
Do you feel there are sufficient environmental and safety protections and that the state is receiving enough tax benefits from energy companies that are fracking in the state? If not, what would you do differently?
It is unacceptable to me that Pennsylvania does not have a severance tax on shale drilling. These resources belong to the people of Pennsylvania, who deserve a fair deal and a lasting positive legacy of world-class schools, a 21st century transportation network, clean and cheap energy, and new jobs that can power our economy for the future.
As governor, I would push for a 5 percent gas severance tax, which would generate an estimated $737 million in 2014-15. Over a decade, this tax would generate $13.2 billion in revenue for Pennsylvania to support transformational investments in education, infrastructure and clean energy.
As governor, I would also:
• Enact the strongest possible protections, based on the best science, to reduce air pollution, limit methane leakage and protect drinking water.
• Ensure these protections are enforced by restoring funding to the Department of Environmental Protection, increasing the size of the oversight staff, increasing penalties for violations and closing the revolving door between industry and regulators.
• Sustain the moratorium on gas drilling in the Delaware River Basin until we can be confident, through rigorous scientific testing, that drilling can be done without harmful ramifications.
• Protect our natural treasures by establishing a permanent moratorium on leasing additional land in our state forests for gas drilling and preventing drilling in state parks.
Defend the rights of Pennsylvanians by creating an independent oversight office, ensuring local control, protecting royalty holders and ending forced pooling.
The governors of some states, including Maryland and Delaware, have worked to cultivate strong relationships with the Jewish state. Should Pennsylvania do more culturally, economically or otherwise to build a relationship with Israel. If so, what?
Yes. As the only Jewish member of the 20- member congressional delegation, I have led and supported many efforts to strengthen Pennsylvania's relationship with Israel. I am proud to be very active in Congress on efforts to deepen America's partnership with Israel, including serving as a member of the Democratic Israel Working Group and the U.S. Israel Security Caucus.
As a member of Congress, I have traveled to Israel and met directly with high-ranking Israeli elected officials and business leaders to promote increased economic ties between the United States and Israel. I directly encouraged President Barck Obama to travel to Israel, including signing a letter encouraging him on his visit to make clear his commitment to maintaining aid to Israel and its Qualitative Military Edge.
I have co-sponsored the United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act, which calls for enhanced cooperation between the United States and Israel and designates Israel as a "major strategic partner." I have supported strongly and advocated for the Visa Waiver for Israel Act to strengthen U.S.-Israel business, travel and tourism ties. The Visa Waiver Program allows nationals from certain countries to enter the United States as temporary visitors for up to 90 days without first obtaining a visa from a U.S. consulate abroad.
Regionally, I am very proud to have a strong relationship with the Israeli consulate general and the staff of the Israeli consulate and recognize first-hand the important role it plays in our region. Last November I spoke out and worked actively to ensure that Israel keep open the consulate, including contacting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to urge him to not to close the Israeli consulate in Philadelphia. It was an important win for our region's Jewish community and broader community that Israel choose to keep the consulate open.
As governor, I would take a very active role in promoting and strengthening economic ties between Pennsylvania and Israel. I would specifically look at trade opportunities to promote the products produced by Pennsylvanian manufacturers, as well as ways to promote best-practice sharing in sectors we have in common, including shale drilling and life sciences. And, I would work with leaders in Pennsylvania's business and Jewish community for their ideas, thoughts and participation in efforts to strengthen economic ties.
Find the responses of Rob McCord and Katie McGinty here.


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Funding the Marital Share
By Eric P. Hayes
Proper drafting of the marital share is critical. The draftsperson must give the fiduciary clear directions as to the method to be employed in determining the amount of the marital bequest and how the assets to fund the marital share will be selected.
A. Generally, the marital deduction bequest may be expressed in one of two ways: 1. A pecuniary amount. (Ex: I leave my husband $500,000.) 2. A fractional amount. (Ex: I leave one-half my residuary estate to my husband.) B. To ensure that estate taxes are minimized on both the first spouse's death and the surviving spouse's death, estate planners often express the marital deduction utilizing a formula. Proper drafting of the formula ensures full use of the credit shelter amount and minimizes the possibility of overfunding the marital bequest. The formulas utilized fall into two categories: 1.
Fractional Share Formula:
A fractional share formula is a gift of a fractional portion of each asset in the estate. An example of a fractional share formula is as follows: "I give to my spouse that fractional share of my residuary estate necessary to obtain the maximum federal estate tax marital deduction, the numerator of which shall be . . . and the denominator of which shall be. . ." This type of formula is similar to giving the spouse one-half of the residuary estate. The primary difference is that the amount of the bequest will be determined by a formula to obtain the optimum marital deduction. 2.
A Pecuniary Formula
is a gift of money. An example of a pecuniary gift is: "I give the smallest pecuniary amount of my residuary estate that, if allowed as a federal estate tax marital deduction, would result in the least possible federal estate tax being payable by reason of my death." This type of formula is similar to a bequest of a specific sum of money to the spouse. Once again, to ensure flexibility, the amount of the bequest is being expressed as a formula. C. It is critical that the draftsperson gives the fiduciary clear guidance that a particular formula is a pecuniary amount or a fractional among. Unclear or ambiguous directions can produce unintended results. II.
While there are only two basic formulas for expressing the amount of the marital deduction, there are variations in the funding formulas which can be used for either a pecuniary formula marital deduction or the fractional share formula marital deduction. It is critical that the instrument specify the method of funding to be used. The method of funding must be selected when the instrument is drafted. Granting the fiduciary the discretion to choose a method may result in disallowance of the marital deduction. While the type of formula (pecuniary vs. fractional) determines the amount of the marital transfer, the funding formula instructs the fiduciary as to how that amount will be achieved.
A. In determining the funding of the pecuniary formula marital deduction, there are three approaches: 1. Funding based on date of distribution value, sometimes referred to as a true worth pecuniary. 2. Minimum worth pecuniary. 3. Fairly representative pecuniary. 4. There is also the reverse pecuniary formula, which makes a pecuniary gift to the credit shelter or by-pass trust. The marital gift is of the residuary estate. This method may employ as a funding formula for the credit shelter gift either date of distribution/true worth approach or the fairly representative approach. The minimum worth approach in this context could disqualify the marital deduction as it gives the fiduciary too much power to manipulate the funding of the marital share by permitting overfunding of the non-marital pecuniary bequest. B. The date of distribution value or true worth pecuniary method of funding has several
1. This type of provision allows the fiduciary broad discretion to pick and choose assets to fund the marital share. The fiduciary will not be limited to a fractional portion of each asset. Thus, the fiduciary can allocate property to the marital share which is not expected to appreciate, thereby minimizing estate taxes upon the surviving spouse's death. 2. A second advantage of this method of funding is that it protects the spouse's share against depreciation if estate assets decline in value during administration. Since the marital share is a fixed dollar amount, depreciation will be allocated to the non-marital share. 3. Another advantage is that the value of the marital share is
. This will prevent increasing estate taxes upon the surviving spouse's death by overfunding the marital share. Appreciation in asset values since the date of death (or alternate valuation date if alternate valuation was elected) will be allocated to the non-marital share. 4. Finally, the true-worth pecuniary is easy to administer. Once the value of the marital share is determined, the fiduciary only has to choose the property to allocate to the trust which will equal that value on date of distribution. C. There are
to the true-worth pecuniary method of funding: 1. If the fiduciary uses appreciated property to fund the bequest, there will be a capital gain upon funding. (Rev Rul 60-87 1960-1 C.B. 286,
Suisman v. Eaton
, 15 F. Supp 113 (d.Conn 1935), Affd per curiam
Suisman v. Hartford Connecticut Trust Co.
83 F2d 1019 2d 1936) cert dep 299 vs. 573 (1936).) If property has declined in value, then the entity which is funding the marital share may not be allowed to take the loss. Thus, if funding is being made from a "parent" trust to the marital share, pursuant to IRC Sec. 267(b), no loss will be allowed as the trusts will be deemed to be related parties. The loss is suspended and if certain conditions are met may be taken when the property is sold by the marital trust. The loss will only be allowed when the property is sold. To determine if there is a loss upon the sale requires the trustee to maintain two sets of tax costs for the same asset, one for gain purposes and one for loss purposes. In order to claim a capital loss the sale must be below the date of distribution values; for a gain the sale must be above the 706 values. This complicates record keeping for the trustee. A sale for an amount which is in between date of distribution values and 706 values has no tax consequences. To avoid this problem, assets with a loss should be
in the parent trust so the loss can be recognized. If the funding of the marital share is directly from an estate (e.g., to a testamentary trust), then the loss will be recognized. Even though the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 added to IRC Sec. 267(b) an executor of an estate and its beneficiaries as related parties there is an exception for losses for a sale or exchange that satisfies a pecuniary bequest. Recently the IRS issued regulations under IRC Sec. 645. IRC Sec. 645 permits an executor of a will and a trustee of a revocable trust to make an election to treat a qualified revocable trust as part of the estate for fiduciary income tax purposes during the administration of the estate. It would seem that if this election is made, then the funding of a pecuniary formula date of distribution value marital deduction trust from a qualified revocable trust with depreciated property would permit recognition of losses. This is because the distribution, by value of the IRC Sec. 645 election, is deemed to be from the estate and thus not from a related party. 2. Another disadvantage is that a market decline before funding may wipe out the credit shelter disposition. Since depreciation is allocated away from the marital share, a market decline will affect the value of the credit shelter disposition. This may expose the fiduciary to liability if the fiduciary has delayed funding the marital share. A severe market decline prior to funding may not only eliminate the credit shelter disposition, but may also prevent the fiduciary from fully funding the pecuniary marital amount. 3. Also, as estate expenses and death taxes will be paid from the credit shelter disposition, this will reduce the credit shelter and, in some cases, deplete it entirely. 4. Distribution of property which is a right to receive income in respect of a decedent (IRD) to fund a pecuniary marital amount will accelerate recognition of income (IRC Sec. 691(a)(2)). This could present a serious problem if the right to IRD represents a stream of future payments (royalties, installment contract). 5. As with all marital fundings (except for gifts of specific dollar amount or bequest of specific property (Ex., I leave my husband $500,000 or I leave my husband Whiteacre),
funding will carry out Distributable Net Income (DNI). The true worth pecuniary is not covered by the exception contained in IRC Sec. 663(a)(1) for specific bequests. Therefore, unlike satisfaction of a specific bequest of property or sum of money, distribution to fund the marital will attract DNI. (Regulations Section 1.663(a)-1(b).) 6. To fund the marital bequest will require revaluation of those assets used to fund the marital share. This is not difficult if the asset is cash or marketable securities; however, if the asset is real estate or an interest in a closely held business, the task is more onerous. 7. If the estate consists largely of stock in a closely held business, then use of a pecuniary formula marital deduction may be inappropriate. As mentioned previously, the company will have to be revalued if the funding formula is based on date of distribution values. This will often be difficult and time consuming, and the value assigned may be debatable. If the value of the stock has appreciated since the date or death (or alternate valuation date), there will be a capital gain on funding. The obligation to pay this tax will create a problem if there are insufficient liquid assets with which to pay the tax. (This problem will occur any time the estate consists largely of non-liquid assets, and not only with closely held stock.) Further, a redemption of stock to pay the tax will
qualify under the safe harbor created by IRC Sec. 303; therefore, the redemption will be treated as a dividend. A related issue is, if the decedent's estate has as a substantial asset a majority interest in a closely held business, then if the marital trust will receive shares which represent a majority interest, those shares may be entitled to a control premium. In other words, in funding the marital trust rather than using a pro rata value based on estate tax values for the shares or appraisal value, a block of shares that represents control would be valued at a premium. This would decrease the amount of other assets allocated to the marital share. (See
Chenoweth Est. v. Comp.
, 88 T.C. 1577 (1987).) This sword can cut both ways. If the estate has a majority interest in a closely held company, and a minority interest is allocated to the marital share, then the IRS position is the value of the shares should be discounted to reflect the fact they represent a minority interest (see TAM 9050004). This will increase the amount of other assets necessary to fund the marital bequest. 8. If there is a significant delay in funding, the IRS has successfully argued that there was a constructive funding that occurred within a reasonable time. Therefore, the value of the marital trust includible in the surviving spouse's estate includes an allocable amount of appreciation from that time. (See
Conn. Nat'l Bank vs. U.S.
937 Fed 90 (2d cir. 1991.) III. Utilizing a minimum worth or fairly representative funding formula may eliminate some of the disadvantages of utilizing the true worth pecuniary formula. A. Minimum worth 1. A minimum worth provision directs the fiduciary to value the property used to fund the marital share at the
of its fair market value or its adjusted basis for income tax purposes. 2. The primary advantage of this method is it avoids triggering a capital gain upon funding since the value for funding is never greater than basis for income tax purposes. As with a funding formula based on date of distribution values, there is maximum pick and choose flexibility. 3. A major disadvantage of this approach is it may overfund the marital share. Thus, an asset with a fair market value of $600,000 on date of funding, but with a tax cost of $400,000, will be valued as $400,000 for purposes of satisfying the pecuniary amount. This provision may allow the fiduciary to favor the spouse by increasing the amount of the marital share by utilizing property that has a value in excess of its adjusted basis to satisfy the bequest. This type of provision makes it possible for the marital share to share in appreciation. However, the ultimate value of the marital share is protected from depreciation. Thus, unlike the true worth pecuniary, the minimum worth pecuniary is not frozen. This ability to favor the spouse could subject the fiduciary to liability. A fiduciary has a duty to act impartially toward beneficiaries and failure to do so would be considered a breach of fiduciary duty. A fiduciary utilizing such a formula must remember the overriding duty to act impartially toward beneficiaries. It is also the case that the minimum worth method will not meet the requirements for separate share treatment under the Generation Skipping Tax Regulations. See Treas. Reg. Sec. 26.2642-2(b)(2)(i). Thus, an allocation of GST exemption to a minimum worth pecuniary marital trust is ineffective. This is a significant drawback to the minimum worth method. Also, the credit shelter is at risk if assets that depreciated in value below their tax cost are used to fund the marital share. This will require additional assets to fund the marital share which could result in significantly reducing or eliminating the credit shelter share. This could expose fiduciary to liability. 4. The same issues concerning disallowance of a capital loss for funding between related parties, distribution of a right to receive IRD and attracting of DNI are present with the minimum worth formula as with the true worth formula. B. Another approach to avoiding the capital gains problem encountered with the true worth pecuniary method of funding is to utilize the approach outlined in Rev. Proc. 64-19. This approach is called the fairly representative pecuniary. 1. The fairly representative pecuniary allows the fiduciary to value assets for purposes of satisfying the pecuniary amount at their adjusted basis for income tax purposes. To avoid having the marital deduction disallowed pursuant to Rev. Proc. 64-19, the fiduciary must be directed in the instrument to select assets in a manner which fairly represents any appreciation or depreciation in assets on the date(s) of distribution. 2. The
advantage to this approach is it avoids the capital gain/loss problem that may be encountered upon funding of a true worth pecuniary. 3. The income tax consequences concerning attraction of DNI and potential acceleration of IRD are present with this approach as with the minimum worth and date of distribution/true worth approach. 4. As with the true worth and minimum worth approaches to funding, there are disadvantages to the fairly representative approach. The primary disadvantage is this approach may overfund or underfund the marital share. Thus, an asset worth $500,000 on date of funding, but with an adjusted basis of $400,000, will only satisfy $400,000 of the pecuniary bequest. If the asset had declined in value to $300,000, then it would be valued at $400,000 for purposes of satisfying the marital share; therefore, this would underfund the share. Since the fiduciary is required to pick assets that are fairly representative of appreciation or depreciation, the fiduciary cannot allocate only depreciated assets to be the marital share to minimize estate taxes on the surviving spouse's death. Once again, in selection assets fiduciary must be careful to act impartially to avoid liability. 5. A significant disadvantage is all assets must be revalued. This is because assets must fairly reflect appreciation and depreciation. The only way to do this is to revalue them. This can be a problem if the assets do not have a readily ascertainable market value. This provision limits the ability of the fiduciary to pick and choose assets. In this regard, the fairly representative approach is more restrictive than the true worth approach and the minimum worth approach. As with any pecuniary approach the credit shelter disposition and the marital share will be at risk in a falling market. IV. As an alternative to a pecuniary formula marital deduction, the draftsperson may employ a fractional share marital bequest. The numerator of the fraction is the amount of the marital deduction and the denominator is the value of the assets available to satisfy the bequest. A fractional share bequest does not trigger capital gains or losses upon funding. A. In drafting the denominator, the draftsperson must indicate if the denominator is to be the value of the assets available before (sometimes referred to as pre-residuary) or after payment of taxes, debts, legacies and expenses of administration, (sometimes referred to as a residuary bequest). A denominator that requires a reduction for taxes, expenses and debts will tend to increase the marital share. Conversely, a denominator which is not reduced by taxes, debts and administration expenses will decrease the marital share. The document should specify the calculation of the denominator to avoid any ambiguity. Note that the differences in expressing the denominator will not change the amount of the marital deduction, but can impact the actual
that is distributed to the marital share. To illustrate, assume the numerator, the marital deduction, is $2,000,000. Assume the denominator is to take into account payment of taxes, debts and administration expenses. Based on this, assume the denominator is $4,000,000. Thus, the fraction is:
or 1/2 x 4,000,000 = 2,000,000 4,000,000 Now let's assume the denominator does not take into account these items and is worth $5,000,000. The fraction becomes:
or 2/5 x 5,000,000 = 2,000,000 5,000,000 Thus, the difference in the expression of the denominator does not affect the marital deduction. However, as previously noted, it can affect the amount that will fund the marital share. So, if the value of the residue grows to $6,000,000, the marital share using a denominator that is the residuary estate the amount actually distributed to the marital share will be $3,000,000 (2,000,000/4,000,000 x $6,000,000) whereas if it is a pre-residuary denominator it will be $2,400,000 (2,000,000/5,000,000 x 6,000,000 = $2,400,000). 1. Unlike the pecuniary approach, the amount of the marital share will fluctuate such that it will share in any appreciation or depreciation. This is an advantage if there is an unhappy family (e.g., the spouse is a second spouse and there are children from the first marriage). However, this may result in overfunding or underfunding the marital share when compared with a true worth pecuniary. Unlike the pecuniary formula utilizing a date of distribution funding formula, the value of the marital share is not frozen. 2. A problem with the fractional share is it can be more difficult to administer. This can happen if values change on audit and there has been partial funding of the marital bequest prior to these changes. As the audit change will affect the fraction, this will impact future funding and will likely require adjustment to earlier funding of the marital share. Similarly, if there are non-pro rata distributions, the fraction will need to be adjusted. This is time-consuming and creates greater risk that the funding will be done incorrectly. B. There are two methods of funding the fractional share marital deduction. One requires a pro rata division of each asset, which is determined by multiplying the fraction against each asset available for funding. The alternative is to employ a pick and choose approach. The pro rata approach is probably required if the instrument is silent as to the method of funding. 1. The pro rata approach has several advantages in addition to no gain or loss being recognized upon funding: a. No acceleration of IRD because distribution is not in satisfaction of a pecuniary bequest. b. There are no concerns with Rev. Proc. 64-19 because a fractional share ensures there is a ratable selection of assets. c. No revaluation of assets is required since the fraction is being applied against each asset. C. However, there are disadvantages to this approach: 1. The most significant disadvantage is the fiduciary has no ability to pick and choose assets. This may result in difficulty in allocating assets to or away from the marital share. 2. If the instrument does not allow the fiduciary to make non-pro rata distributions, a distribution that is not pro rata may result in a taxable exchange between recipients. (Rev. Rul 69-486, 1969 2 C.B. 159.) D. To eliminate the lack of flexibility required by a pro rata funding approach, the draftsperson should consider giving the fiduciary the ability to pick and choose assets when funding the marital bequest. Such a provision would allow the fiduciary to distribute assets in satisfaction of the marital bequest in whole or in part which would have a date of distribution value equal to the aggregate value of the marital share's pro rata portion of each item of the residue. 1. As with a pro rata allocation, this provision will allow funding without any recognition of gain or loss. Further, there would be no acceleration of income upon distribution of items of IRD and there will be no Rev. Proc. 64-19 problems. Also, there would be no taxable exchange problems since the fiduciary has the power to make non-pro rata exchanges. 2. A disadvantage to the pick and choose approach is that assets will need to be revalued each time there is a distribution. This is not the case with a pro rata funding of a fractional share. V. Allocation of income between the marital share and the non-marital share A. When funding the marital share, the fiduciary must determine the amount of the income to be allocated to the marital and the non-marital share. This is true of both pecuniary formula maritals and fractional share maritals. Further, pursuant to Mass. Gen. Law Ch. 197 Sec. 26, a gift in trust entitles the income beneficiary to income earned from the testator's date of death. If the bequest is a pecuniary amount and will not be held in trust, interest accrues in accordance with Mass. Gen. Law Ch. 197 Sec. 20. 1. When funding pecuniary formula marital trust, the fiduciary needs to determine the share of income the marital share is to receive on income earned by the estate or trust prior to the payment of debts, estate taxes and administration expenses and the share of income for income earned after these payments. Since payments of these items will generally come from the non-marital share, the ratio of the marital share to the residue will change after payment of these items. It is critical to review the instrument to determine the source of payment for the above items. a.
Assume the marital amount is $400,000 and that taxes are to be paid from the credit shelter share. When the taxes are paid, the amount to fund the credit shelter trust will be $400,000. When the marital share and non-marital share are funded, the fiduciary needs to determine the income to be allocated to each share. Until payment of taxes, the fraction for computing the income to be allocated would be:
or 40% 1,000,000 After payment of taxes, the fraction would be:
or 50% 800,000 2. With the fractional share formula, since the amount of property to be transferred to the marital share will be determined on date(s) of distribution, the fiduciary will need to recalculate the fraction. The fraction will be applied to income earned prior to funding. If there will be partial fundings, then the fraction will need to be recalculated. 3. If the surviving spouse is likely to receive the income from the marital and non-marital share, then exact allocation of income is less critical. However, if it is unlikely that the spouse will be receiving the income or it is an unhappy family, then proper allocation of income is critical. Improper allocation could result in surcharge of the fiduciary. VI.
Once the marital deduction formula has been chosen, it is incumbent upon the draftsperson to select the method of funding. Selection of the method to be employed in funding the marital share as with selection of the formula for the marital deduction (pecuniary vs. fractional) must be based upon a review of the estate owner's objectives, the assets of the estate and the family situation. Use of a funding formula that is inappropriate to the estate owner's situation, or no formula, may result in a marital bequest which does not truly meet the needs of the spouse or achieve the estate owner's intent. Failure to properly implement the chosen funding formula may result in liability to the fiduciary and adverse tax consequences. (See Rev. Rul. 84-105 1984-2 C.B. 197). IRS held surviving spouse who did not object to underfunding of marital share made a gift of that amount.
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ok so i dont know whether this is something that is feasible or even anything that annoys other users as it does me...perhaps i use xbmc differently than others do.
i like to load up 10 to 20 movies/tv shows into my now playing queue so they play one after another and occasionally i will start watching something and then fall asleep or get distracted thus 6 or 7 hours later i now have 2 to 4 movies in my library that are listed as watched when in fact i never watched even one scene of the movie so i then have to exit my play list and go find the movies that are marked as watched that i didn't see and remark them as unwatched.
ok not really that big of a deal and its my own fault for falling asleep or whatever.
in a nutshell this request is to add a mark as watched/unwatched option to the the move up/move down/remove/move item/ect menu
perhaps there is a keyboard shortcut that already will do this from the now playing/play list view?
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[quote:PSSZZZ 1299980:MV8xNDEyNTQ0XzI0MzQ4OTgzXzFDNDUwNzY5] [quote:voog] let me just throw this in here... there is a CERN place in illinois that sends the world's largest neutrino beam underground to a place in northern minnesota that used to be a coal mine (that has a very interesting history on who used to own it). this lab, i can't remember the names of these places but they are easy to find on google, coincidentally caught FIRE around the same time as the japan earthquake stuff was starting. it burned for 3 days. it hardly made news. this lab was the 1st place ever to find "dark matter" and they have the creepiest mural that rivals the denver airport's. the place looks like the hatch in Lost, mural and all. very weird. anyway, when i read this about this beam being so powerful it made me feel uneasy as i live in the "path" of this beam from illinois to minnesota. it doesn't make me feel comfortable, to put it lightly. [/quote] Fermilab is the place you are thinking about, and they weren't the first to discover dark matter. They were the first to confirm(but they didn't produce any dark matter) the existence of dark matter threw a series of tests that concluded that dark matter must exist. And as far as I know,( and I have alot of close connections)fermilab was scheduled to close operations between March and August of this year. [/quote]
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My apologies to those who have already seen this. I thought it deserved its own thread...
Were you aware that many particle accelerators, especially CERN, have the capability to produce very powerful neutrino beams? Did you know that they actually send these beams through the earth to neutrino detectors stationed hundreds of miles away? Everyone seems to be worried about the energies of particles colliding in the LHC but to me, the real worry may be the neutrino beam and what it might be doing to the Earth.
A little background (skip to conclusion if you don't want to read all the details)...
What is a neutrino?
Neutrinos (more precisely, anti-neutrinos) were postulated by Pauli as a means of preserving the conservation of energy involved in the beta-decay of a neutron:
n ---> p+ + e- + v-e*
where v-e* is the symbol for the electron anti-neutrino. It is a neutral, almost massless particle that carries away some of the energy when a neutron decays into a proton and an electron.
The solar furnace produces electron neutrinos by fusion of protons in its core according to the following reaction:
p+ + p+ ---> 4-He + e- + v-e
where v-e is the symbol for the electron neutrino.
Due to it's small size and absence of electric charge, the neutrino is very difficult to detect at low energies because it hardly interacts with matter. However, as the energy goes up, the probability of neutrinos interacting with matter goes up as well (note that this does not necessarily imply that the probability of detecting neutrinos goes up - it depends on how you are looking for them).
Neutrino flavors
The electron has higher energy analogs known as the muon and tau lepton. These particles can decay into an electron by emitting correspondingly higher energy neutrinos. The reactions are:
u ---> e- + v-u + v-e*
tau ---> e- + v-tau + v-e*
where u is the muon and v-u is the muon-neutrino; and tau is the tau lepton and v-tau is the tau-neutrino. The energies of naturally produced neutrinos rank as v-e < v-mu < v-tau.
As early as the 1960s experiments were setup to detect neutrinos emitted from the sun. Due to the low energy of the solar neutrinos, the detectors had to be absolutely huge. They were typically located deep underground to shield the effects of cosmic rays. The detectors consisted of huge tanks filled with a chlorinated organic liquid. When a neutrino struck one of the chlorine atoms in the tank, it converted it to argon gas, which could be very accurately measured. However, these detectors and variations thereof could only detect the lowest energy electron neutrinos coming from the sun. The results of every experiment revealed that the flux of electron neutrinos from the sun was only a fraction of that predicted by the solar model. This left scientists scratching their heads for many years.
Neutrino oscillation
In an attempt to explain the shortfall of electron neutrinos coming from the sun, a theory was proposed that allowed the flavor of neutrinos to oscillate as they pass through matter. According to this theory, as electron neutrinos make their way from the sun's core to the surface, they pass through a whole lot of matter and some fraction of them change from electron neutrinos to muon-neutrinos in the process. So, the first order of business was to try to detect muon-neutrinos coming from the sun.
The search for the muon-neutrino
In the 1980s the search for the muon-neutrino was underway. New detectors were built for this purpose. The new detectors used large tanks of water or heavy water lined with thousands of photomultiplier tubes to detect the tiny flash of light emitted when a neutrino struck an electron in the tank. The advantages of this technique were that it provided real-time detection of neutrinos, their energies and the direction from which they originated. It wasn't long before muon-neutrinos were detected, which provided strong support for the oscillation theory. However, more testing was needed to definitively show that neutrinos can change flavor in flight.
Particle accelerators save the day
Here is where the story gets a little scary...
So scientists conceived of a brilliant way to show that neutrinos change flavor in flight. If they could fire a beam of known neutrinos at one of the deeply buried detectors then they could compare what is detected to what was shot at the detector. In the mid-90s, the Fermi lab accelerator was used for this purpose. It produced a beam of muon-neutrinos that was aimed through the earth at a detector hundreds of miles away. Sure enough, by the time the muon-neutrinos reached the detector a large fraction of them had converted into electron-neutrinos. This pretty much sealed the deal for the oscillation theory.
The serious problem I see with all of this is that particle accelerators have routinely been shooting high energy neutrinos into the earth for many years now. The CERN accelerator fires a neutrino beam with an energy of 17 GeV right through the earth all the way to a detector in Italy ( [
link to arxiv.org
] Compare this to the maximum energy of neutrinos emitted by the sun - only 20 MeV ( [
link to lappweb06.in2p3.fr
] This means that CERN is bombarding the earth with neutrinos that are nearly 1000 times more energetic than what we receive from the sun! Moreover, these are muon-neutrinos. There is no known cosmic source of muon-neutrinos hitting the earth at such high energy.
Are you following me? The earth is being hit by the rare muon-neutrino at very high energy. Remember that the higher the energy, the more likely the neutrino is to interact with matter. What might be the effects on the earth? Could it be possible that this type/energy neutrino might influence the rate of radioactive decay of isotopes in the earth? There is already some evidence that neutrinos can have this kind of effect ( [
link to news.stanford.edu
Personally, I would find it very poetic (albeit frightening and disturbing) if such a subtle energy form unleashed by man were to destroy our earth. This unbelivably tiny and almost massless particle may end up being the ghost that haunts us all.
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Shouldn't Itachi's kenjutsu skills be given a note, which were aptly displayed when he cut off Kabuto's horn.18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:32, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
I think he has mastery with all ninja tools/weapons in general ... after all, ANBU wear Katanas and Uchiha are skilled in that area :P --Elveonora (talk) 20:52, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
Besides ability sections are only created when a character either uses an ability on a regular basis or displays unusual variations of such. Darksusanoo (talk) 21:10, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
- A note possibly. Not that what he did to Kabuto's horn would warrant that note but since he's an Anbu he was more than likely trained in kenjutsu.--Cerez365™(talk) 21:17, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
Itachi hasn't done enough with a sword to warrant a section. Swinging a sword once and cutting off a horn isn't notable.--Deva 27 21:35, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
He massacred the whole clan using a sword "_" --Elveonora (talk) 21:40, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Deva, have you completely forgotten about the Uchiha Clan Massacre?! He used a damn sword there! --Speysider (Talk Page) 21:43, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
I agree we should include it. Slayersimon (talk) 10:59, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
- What exactly would be added there? We know nothing of how he killed the members of the Uchiha clan using a sword with the exception of his parents and that's still a lot left to speculate there. There were also a ton of kunai and shuriken at the scene of the Massacre. All we've seen him do is block Kabuto's chakra scalpel with the sword. None of this is enough to give him his own section on kenjutsu.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:05, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
Method of defeating the Edo Tensei
It is said in the intelligence section of Itachi's article it is written that "he seems to have found a method to defeat the Impure World Reincarnation altogether." But it was simply forcing the user to stop the technique. Either write as "he deduced a method" or remove it completely.18.104.22.168 (talk) 11:48, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
"Itachi appears to have deduced a method of
defeatingcountering the Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation"
That is what was there prior to your post.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:53, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
Nigete nigete...
Is there a translation by ShounenSuki of Itachi's (imo coolest) words? Because the one in the article doesn't look correct to me... Seelentau 愛議 16:22, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- "Forgive me Sasuke… …It ends with this." ?--Cerez365™(talk) 16:26, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- No no, the nigete-stuff. About Sasuke living a wretched life and all. It should be in the citate section, I think. Seelentau 愛議 16:42, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Uhm. I looked... and I don't see what you're talking about. o.o --Cerez365™(talk) 16:48, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I mean the words he said to his brother after he killed his clan. ABout how Sasuke is not worth killing and should live a life in hate and such. It's in the text about Itachi's past, but not in the quotes-section. And it seems odd to me. Seelentau 愛議 17:02, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh. Though it'd been much easier if you just pasted the quote ( '-') y u no paste? If there isn't kanji and such with the quote it's unlikely it was gotten from Shounensuki.--Cerez365™(talk) 17:06, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I was too lazy, sorry^^ But thanks, I think I'll ask him to translate it if he ever comes back~ Seelentau 愛議 17:20, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh. Though it'd been much easier if you just pasted the quote ( '-') y u no paste? If there isn't kanji and such with the quote it's unlikely it was gotten from Shounensuki.--Cerez365™(talk) 17:06, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I mean the words he said to his brother after he killed his clan. ABout how Sasuke is not worth killing and should live a life in hate and such. It's in the text about Itachi's past, but not in the quotes-section. And it seems odd to me. Seelentau 愛議 17:02, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Uhm. I looked... and I don't see what you're talking about. o.o --Cerez365™(talk) 16:48, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
- No no, the nigete-stuff. About Sasuke living a wretched life and all. It should be in the citate section, I think. Seelentau 愛議 16:42, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Here are the Kanji and rōmaji, if you need them: 貴様など…殺す価値も無い。…愚かなる弟よ……。このオレを殺したくば、恨め!憎め!そして みにくく生きのびるがいい………。…逃げて逃げて…生にしがみつくがいい。, Kisama nado… Korosu kachi mo nai. …Orokanaru otōto yo…… Kono ore o koroshitakuba, urame! Nikume! Soshite, minikuku ikinobiru ga ii……… …Nigete nigete… Sei ni shigamitsuku ga ii. :) Seelentau 愛議 17:30, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
I think we should include Izanagi to Uchiha Itachi Jutsu because The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. and He reached the point where he could even make use of one of the Uchiha clan's ultimate dōjutsu, Izanami, and had knowledge of its counterpart, Izanagi. what to you think guys? Slayersimon (talk) 10:55, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
@ Cerez365 Yes my friend he never seen used it because he dont have to. but the knowledge in the jutsu of Izanami to counter Izanagi and the details in explaining inch by inch say he can do the jutsu as explained to manga 587. there for he can also use it so we must include it to uchiha itachi jutsu. Slayersimon (talk) 12:54, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
- It is more than likely that he can use it. Just as how it is more than likely that every Sharingan-wielder can use Izanagi and Izanami. However, Itachi has never used the technique only spoken about it so he cannot be listed as a user. Information that was more than likely passed down through the clan.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:56, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
By this logic, we would have to list Sasuke Uchiha as a user of Izanagi too because he essentially knows the ins and outs of the technique. Just because a user knows the technique and how it works doesn't mean it is a part of their arsenal. Besides that, I believe the site has a very strict "we have to see it to believe it" policy when it comes to adding techniques to lists. Gojinn (talk) 00:06, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
I believe to be able to use the Izanagi the wielder needs both Uchiha(which of course he has) and Senju DNA. and I dont think it says anywhere that Itachi has Senju DNA. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 13:11, June 4, 2012 (UTC) NaruFan
i think we should also include this to itachi's jutsu as explained to manga 587. Slayersimon (talk) 12:56, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
- He meant use it on Sasuke in the same manner he used it on himself, through his crow. It still only makes him an indirect user of the technique.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:57, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
Quote - 587
I think we should add his quote to Sasuke asserting his imperfection, that was a good one :P akz! 16:44, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
Moniker revisited
I know that people can generally call themselves [village's] and their name but Itachi insists on calling himself that on more than one occasions. So I think it might actually be a moniker granted that what he called himself the first time and as of chapter 588 are the same thing. Thoughts? --Cerez365™(talk) 22:59, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, he did kill his whole clan to save the leaf village so I'm sure he would want to be known as a konoha ninja. It seems a little overdone to me to call him that, like if we called Sasuke 'avenger' just because that's what he calls himself, you know? Joshbl56 23:26, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
@Cerez365 ??!!? —This unsigned comment was made by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs) .
- It's all about the way things are said. Sasuke said he was an avenger not [the] "avenger". One's a classification the other can be used as a moniker. But never mind this as Itachi refers to himself as "Konoha's Itachi Uchiha" in one instance and then "Konohagakure's Itachi Uchiha" so since it's not fixed then it isn't really moniker notable.--Cerez365™(talk) 10:25, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
At the time of Itachi's death his eyesight was very poor, in fact he could barely see at all. But Impure World Resurrection is supposed to endlessly regenerate the body. Does that include eyesight? If so, when Itachi uses Izanami, does his eye even lose sight at all? And even if it did couldn't he destroy the eye altogether and let it regenerate? And if he could do that then what's to stop the resurrected Madara from using Izanagi/Izanami as many times as he wants? Anyway, not expecting any answers, just throwing ideas around. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 18:56, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
- Edo Tensei is suppose to resurrect someone the exact same way they were before they died (Which is why Nagato looked older). Apparently Itachi wasn't quite as blind as we thought. As for jutsus, they still affect the dead body the same way they would have if they were alive so Itachi will stay blind in that one eye. Joshbl56 19:08, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
- It is possible that was was happening to Itachi was just temporary from the extended use. Kinda like severe eye-strain somewhat like what Neji went through just that with them, it get's terrible and then better, but doesn't go back to being perfect. It's really one of those things that Kishimoto would have to answer. As for using Izanagi and Izanami, Itachi's eye is still blind, I don't think that would change even if the eye was destroyed and regenerated, that doesn't make the eye brand new just reverts it to the state it was in prior to being destroyed. Or else Nagato could've destroyed his legs and got new ones.--Cerez365™(talk) 19:57, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
You guys do realize that Edos are still susceptible to the drawbacks of their own techniques, right? Mū and his Splitting and Capt'n Awesome and his Steamboy are examples. There's no doubt this would be for keeps. Edo Tensei only regenerates physical blows anyway, as in destroyed body parts. Skitts (talk) 06:01, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
Legacy section
since Itachi came back as a character for reals, shouldn't the Legacy section be integrated before the World War section?(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (ಠ_ೃ)Bully! 03:10, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
- No. Edo Tensei is essentially a temporary resurrection. It only binds hiis soul to the Impure World so long as the technique is active. It doesn't change the fact that Itachi is still dead and his body is decaying. Plus he's about to end the technique. Skitts (talk) 05:58, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
Genjutsu Abilities
Genjutsu abilities under skills section. I see Ninjutsu and Taijutsu prowess but not genjutsu. Seems strange seeing as how he's the most proficient genjutsu user in the series.—This unsigned comment was made by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) .
- That information should be present under his Sharingan section. No use repeating the same information twice.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:28, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
Infobox Image
I think Itachi Uchiha Infobox needs a new, and refurbished image. I don't think the current image is a very good image. WeAreTheAkatsuki (talk) 21:57, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Why? --Cerez365™(talk) 22:01, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
- No reason whatsoever to change it. Unless you can find a suitable image to use from the original Naruto that would suffice, then post it here but the image won't change. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:02, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
Below-Average Chakra Levels
Where does it say that he had below-average chakra levels? It used to say that I know but someone got rid of it thankfully. Honestly the reason he had below-average chakra levels was because of his illness. It was never stated in the manga or anime though so why did people put it in the first place instead of just "his illness"?--BlackGhost91 (talk) 02:55, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
Look at his stats, 2.5 for stamina ... that's really low, especially for Jounin level or in his case even higher. We don't know if it was due to his illness or not (unless manga or databook stated as such) but if you compare it to Ninja around his age and skill, he really has below average chakra levels. Kakashi was directly stated to have low stamina, and he has 3 ^_^ --Elveonora (talk) 15:31, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
- I kinda agree with BlackGhost. There's never been an "average" for stamina ever stated. Kurenai is a jōnin and her stamina level is 2 yet her article doesn't state that she has "below-average" levels of stamina. I don't think it's important that it's mentioned that it's below average since it's more than likely a direct cause of his illness. Take Hiruzen for example, only his physical-related stats have waned since his old age (well that's me assuming). Also Itachi's rank is ANBU.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:53, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
Kakashi was noted to have low stamina and he is 3. That's the only reason I wrote the above :P And that's not an assumption, since stats can increase by training - they can wane by advanced age ... what supports this is the statement that Hiruzen's chakra level has dropped ... maybe he had 5/5 in his prime. Also I was talking about Itachi as a Jounin power wise ... Naruto and Sasuke are almost/if not more Kage level and they are technically genin--Elveonora (talk) 16:22, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
- However, what they are stating, and making a very valid point at, is that there is not an "average" chakra level ever demonstrated in the series. Each character has varying degrees of chakra and the databooks are so far apart that the stats are rarely an accurate portrayal of the character's abilities beyond the point in the manga the databook in question covers. In fact, your statement itself is contradictory. You say that Itachi has low chakra for an "average" Jōnin, however, the only other Jōnin that has really had his chakra commented on in great detail is Kakashi and his was also low. Chakra is not bigger or otherwise just because a person is a certain rank, as shown by both Naruto and Sasuke. There is no "average" chakra for a certain rank, or for ninja in general. Chakra levels are unique to the ninja in question and his or her abilities. Rewording the statement to saying "Itachi has unusually low chakra", with a few examples following, removes the below-average statement while acknowledging that Itachi does, in fact, have low chakra. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 10:20, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, what you said. EDIT: Sasuke was stated to have more chakra and mastery for a genin of his age for example. Not rank-wise but power-wise, Itachi was Kage level or more, and 2.5 is still low chakra level when compared to Kakashi's 3 that's also low--Elveonora (talk) 12:21, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
Currently, the whole "low stamina" thing on the page is a non-sequitor. It's a stand-alone sentence that doesn't fit with the rest of the paragraph. Can someone add in examples from the manga? Also, correlation does not mean causation. It is very possible Itachi has naturally low stamina, even without the disease. Also, instead of using the databooks to compare between two shinobi, I think it is better to compare their stats relative to themselves. That said, a 2.5 standing among 4s and 5s is worth noting.--Formerly140 (talk) 20:27, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Like I've tried to explain before, illness is always directly correlated with low "energy" or stamina if you will especially one that is terminal. Stamina as we've seen, is something that can be expanded/increased through training, case in point Kakashi Hatake. I don't know why, in this specific case, people would believe that the two are totally unrelated.--Cerez365™(talk) 20:35, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- If one notices his battles, he doesn't last much long...the fact that up to three uses of his MS left him in the gutter, in terms of stamina/chakra, stands to point the Itachi's (sole) weak point is his chakra levels, which while i agree to the whole removal of below average stamina it's a fact that from what was shown Itachi isn't capable of going on a long duration fight. Now we don't know when he contracted his disease or how much he was affected but chakra-wise, in terms of amount/power is his Aquille's Heel. Darksusanoo (talk) 20:45, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Kakashi is an interesting example. He has naturally low stamina, right? But he also has a sharingan that's constantly sucking away at his chakra. Can we say Kakashi ONLY has low stamina, because of the sharingan? No. Likewise, with Itachi, I'm very sure the disease has some effect on Itachi's stamina, along with his strength, speed/reflexes, etc, etc. I'm never saying his disease is unrelated with his abilities. I'm simply saying, you may be overlooking the fact that even without a disease making his stamina low, it may be naturally low to begin with. Formerly140 (talk) 20:46, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- But here's the thing or things: first due to him being a non-Uchiha, Kakashi's Shraingan sucks up even more chakra than it would on an Uchiha, which was noted that with enough training was negilable. Maybe his stamina/chakra is mediocre but his sharingan is or was a major factor to it. Itachi on the other hand, due to the fact that the details of his illness are non-existant, we don't how much he was affected by it. Maybe your right, maybe not, but the fact is that the details are few and far-between. Darksusanoo (talk) 20:58, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Not naturally low or low at all. We don't know what kind of stamina Kakashi had except that he says it's not anywhere on Sasuke or Naruto's level. However he was able to train or whatever and is now able to use the Sharingan related techniques for extended periods of time. That being said, there is no way for us to know whether or not he would have low stamina sans the illness, because simply put, he was ill so it cannot be counted as a non-factor. To address the recent post, how do you know it isn't a case where people who wield dōjutsu just naturally have more chakra to wield the eye? Because that's never been explained to us, and I don't know whether or not the eye recognises "my host is not an Uchiha, so i'll suck more chakra from them to work".--Cerez365™(talk) 21:04, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Well at least that's what's stated in Kakashi's page, that due to the fact that he is not of Uchiha blood, his Sharingan costs him more chakra to use, plus i do remember a similar mention in the earlier chapters of the series. It does make sense since he's wielding a KK that's not natural to him so he's bound to deal with some backlash. Now in regards to Itachi, it's what i've said before, given how we don't know when or how he contracted his disease or the full extent of the symptoms we don't know if his stamina was low before or due to it, only that his is lower than most other characters. Darksusanoo (talk) 21:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Not naturally low or low at all. We don't know what kind of stamina Kakashi had except that he says it's not anywhere on Sasuke or Naruto's level. However he was able to train or whatever and is now able to use the Sharingan related techniques for extended periods of time. That being said, there is no way for us to know whether or not he would have low stamina sans the illness, because simply put, he was ill so it cannot be counted as a non-factor. To address the recent post, how do you know it isn't a case where people who wield dōjutsu just naturally have more chakra to wield the eye? Because that's never been explained to us, and I don't know whether or not the eye recognises "my host is not an Uchiha, so i'll suck more chakra from them to work".--Cerez365™(talk) 21:04, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, we don't know if Itachi has naturally low stamina, but it IS a possibility. And I think saying "he has low stamina" is much more neutral and unbiased than saying "his low stamina was a result of his illness." That makes me think Itachi would have a 5 in stamina if he didn't have an illness. He may very well have a 3.5 or a 4 in stamina without the disease, which, relative to himself, is still low. Another reason I don't want a causal link between his stats and his disease is that then we can argue his other stats are affected by the disease as well. Such as, "his 4.5 in taijutsu and 3.5 in strength are also a result of his illness, and thus should be much higher." Formerly140 (talk) 21:20, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
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Just a question: did he really called "Madara" by the name of Tobi? If so, that means he doesn't believe Tobi is Madara Uchiha like he said before fighting Sasuke? Rubião (talk) 23:46, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
In the translation I read he never said his name at all. He just said that he knew about him and that he knew he wanted revenge against the Uchiha clan. -EriHonjo (talk) 11:16, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
No. In the translation I read Itachi said "Tobi". This was right before he showed his memory to Sasuke. --Rubião (talk) 20:21, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
That's a wrong translation. They met for the first time in that scene, there is no way in the hell he could know his "name" at that point--Elveonora (talk) 23:36, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
The only mention of the name "Tobi" that I saw was when Itachi said "Tobi and Danzō were right". And no that doesn't have to mean that he believes Tobi isn't Madara. It could have just become force of habit but we never know. Itachi was brilliant after all.--Cerez365™(talk) 01:48, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
Editing Itachi's page?
When in the editing page, a notification came up that said Itachi's page was locked and I may not be able to edit it? Are only certain people allowed to edit his page or something? -EriHonjo (talk) 11:19, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Only registered users can edit the page, you should be able to edit. -White Flash-(Talk)- 11:25, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
Nature Type
What happen to Itachi's Nature Type box? I dont see anything on it. is it an error? Slayersimon (talk) 11:54, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
its a bug.188.8.131.52 (talk) 12:33, July 5, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
New Image
I think this picture is better than the current one File:V.jpg --Azed (talk) 03:28, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
- No, there's nothing wrong with the current one. -White Flash-(Talk)-
- Azed... What has Itachi ever done to you that was so bad?--Cerez365™(talk) 10:51, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Cerez, that was really rude of you and it wasn't called for.
- I agree we need a newish image but I don't have any of the DVD's with me to check for a better image. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 14:23, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Azed... What has Itachi ever done to you that was so bad?--Cerez365™(talk) 10:51, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
With the exception that he is facing the wrong way, (left instead of right) I see nothing that requires action.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:24, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh dear, I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way Azed, I was going for more of a whyyy thing because the image looks so off-putting to me at least. Any way, I agree with the former, and see no issue with the image currently in his infobox, he looks absolutely regal v_v --Cerez365™(talk)
crow kararimi
itachi uses some kind of technique in the games that turns him into a swarm of crows and then these crows gather forming his body again..could that be some kind of replacement or clone technique ?--184.108.40.206 (talk) 01:44, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- If for real, Crow Clone Technique, if not, just regular genjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:57, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
What's the point of this?
"Despite his own impressive abilities, Itachi never underestimated his opponents, given his praise of Jiraiya,[32] in which he noted to Kisame that if they fought him, they would either die or end in a tie." Shouldn't this be in the Personality section? It has nothing to do with Itachi's abilities. I mean, at this point we all know why Itachi said that. To protect the Leaf Village and its strongest Shinobi (Jiraiya).--—This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- He was praised about his abilities by a Sanin- canon source of praise
- Can fit into both personality and abilities- shows he's not overconfident
- Not going to answer that last part because it's speculation that will lead to a never-ending discussion
- Sign your posts.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:30, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Since he was commanded by Danzō himself, doesn't that mean that Itachi Uchiha was a member of Root.?--Omojuze (talk) 19:28, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I don't think so, no. The series specifically stated that Itachi was a member of ANBU, which are under the direct control of the Hokage. Itachi and Danzō's meeting was in secrecy, wasn't it? He threatened Itachi and all that such, forcing Itachi to make a choice, if I remember correctly.--NinjaSheik 19:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Not that we know of--Elveonora (talk) 22:01, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I changed abilities back to incredibly powerful instead of just powerful. as lesser characters as stated in the manga (orochimaru admitting itachi is stronger) are described as being being extremely or very powerful.
it's only fair —This unsigned comment was made by Seretonin (talk • contribs) .
All of which is already accounted for without the extra adjective. If Itachi's overall skills were less known, then it might be the case, but his skills have been quite detailed. Adding fluff when there's an already adequate amount of info will only make it look there's bias in the article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:36, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Again orochimaru who has showcased all of his skills both defeated and admitted he was weaker has the extra adjective. the same goes for kakazu who was pushed to his limits who gets a "very" and sasori again who gets an 'extremely' so the bias argument isn't valid as it was sated nagato and itachi were the strongest in madara's army.
also note i didn't add the adjective it was there before i just put it back. —This unsigned comment was made by Seretonin (talk • contribs) .
- I don't understand. If it can go for one like Itachi, why not go (or not) for everyone else. For me, it's either you add the extra adjective or you don't for everyone because each of those characters, mentioned directly or not, are extremely powerful.--Cerez365™(talk) 00:58, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
- I think my unease in adding adjectives to Itachi comes from those lengthy debates about his skill in regards to his illness, and the mythic wars I've seen on Itachi and Jiraiya. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
The only "extremely" powerful individuals are close-to-impossible-to-beat, like Madara for example. Powerful by itself means someone is very strong. From the dialogue, Itachi and Jiraiya were strong alike. But Itachi defeated Orochimaru, Orochimaru defeated Jiraiya, Nagato also defeated Jiraiya... you get the point. It's better to remove "an extremely" to avoid "versus" wars because such comparisons are hard to and shouldn't be made.--Elveonora (talk) 02:43, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
- sasori was 'extremely' powerful until i changed it. Orochimaru never defeated jiraya in the manga.Seretonin (talk) 11:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
- You're quantifying a person's strength in the wrong way. Despite the fact that Orochimaru was "one-panelled" as you called it, that does not detract from the fact that he was an immensely powerful shinobi. In fact as I said before all the characters that have that adjective added to their articles have displayed immense power or what not. That is why I said, it's either we keep it for all of them, or none of them at all.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:49, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Well, Itachi INDEED was immensely powerful (he even stated to be the one to surpass Madara) but hinted that Jiraiya was equal to him, but then again, Jiraiya was inferior to Orochimaru and Orochimaru inferior to Itachi, so it kinda makes no sense. So the best way is to leave the word alone in most cases--Elveonora (talk) 15:57, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Jiraya never once was stated to be weaker or infereior than Orochimaru. and according to Kabuto every thing itachi said before his death was a lie. however orochimaru did directly state itachi was stronger then him being the only legitimate hype in your postSeretonin (talk) 21:08, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I believe we should get as close to fanservicing our characters as possible without o/ding or distorting information so I'd be all for that. Each character's abilities section, to me at least, should read like we're handing them an award. At least when possible.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:58, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Chakra levels
Kimimaro was in an even worse condition than Itachi during their final fights respectively (with each breath literally taking Kimimaro closer to death), yet he was given a 4.5 in stamina while Itachi was given a 2.5. Sorry, that's indicative of Itachi just having a naturally low stamina.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:10, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
- You responding to the dead discussion is just indicative that you're still griping about the same old topic. Even if the character is not to your liking, that shouldn't carry over into your editing. That being said, what is below average stamina? How exactly is is quantified? Kakashi's stamina which was also commented as being "poor" or so was at a 3, so is that bad or respectable? If not, then why did Sasuke at 3/3.5 tire out before this naturally low-stamina person who was using MS techniques? Also, comparing Itachi to Kimimaro is like comparing the effects of cancer and AIDS on two entirely different, and unrelated personsm then saying that the results should be the same. Most definitely, Itachi's low stamina should be mentioned but not at all in the manner that you're doing it.--Cerez365™(talk) 05:57, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Itachi outlasted Sasuke since Sasuke purposely used Orochimaru's replacement technique to escape Amaterasu, since Sasuke thought he had it won with Kirin. That's the only reason due to the sheer amount of chakra that said technique requires. If Sasuke had just severed his wing with his sword when it was set ablaze, he'd have outlasted Itachi even when Itachi used Susano'o. Kakashi's stamina is average and has increased over time. And comparing Itachi and Kimimaro is valid-both have terminal illnesses, both died of over taxing their bodies with their illnesses. Yet Kimimaro, despite being literally on his DEATH BED Kishimoto still rated him the higher of the two in sheer stamina and chakra.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 08:28, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Without getting into the semantics of that battle, you cannot compare the two of them unless they contracted the same disease, as I said earlier, AIDS is not cancer, neither is cancer, AIDS. You don't know what either of them had, what stage it was at, or the toll it took on their bodies respectively. All people with terminal illnesses aren't the same. apart from that, factors like cursed seals I believe factor into those dataook stats, do they not?--Cerez365™(talk) 08:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Cursed seals, bloodlines, sealed Tailed Beasts, or stamina enhancements don't count towards stamina ratings in the manga. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:19, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Without getting into the semantics of that battle, you cannot compare the two of them unless they contracted the same disease, as I said earlier, AIDS is not cancer, neither is cancer, AIDS. You don't know what either of them had, what stage it was at, or the toll it took on their bodies respectively. All people with terminal illnesses aren't the same. apart from that, factors like cursed seals I believe factor into those dataook stats, do they not?--Cerez365™(talk) 08:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Itachi outlasted Sasuke since Sasuke purposely used Orochimaru's replacement technique to escape Amaterasu, since Sasuke thought he had it won with Kirin. That's the only reason due to the sheer amount of chakra that said technique requires. If Sasuke had just severed his wing with his sword when it was set ablaze, he'd have outlasted Itachi even when Itachi used Susano'o. Kakashi's stamina is average and has increased over time. And comparing Itachi and Kimimaro is valid-both have terminal illnesses, both died of over taxing their bodies with their illnesses. Yet Kimimaro, despite being literally on his DEATH BED Kishimoto still rated him the higher of the two in sheer stamina and chakra.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 08:28, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
ignore that supersayinanman dude. The guy is an Itachi hater of the highest kind, i know him from one forum, he will do anything to make itachi look bad. —This unsigned comment was made by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) .
Saiyaman is right about one thing though, cursed seals, bijuu, and transformations are not accounted for in the databook stats. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 14:30, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
A missing nin, oh wait 0_o
Technically, it was an official mission and his missin-nin status a disguise.--Elveonora (talk) 14:49, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Officially he was a missing nin though. Officially officially he wasn't. This wasn't something that he'd come home from when it was over.--Cerez365™(talk) 14:55, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
Good point, still, but perhaps Hiruzen, if he were alive or Tsunade would have allowed him to come back once it was over if Itachi didn't die? I know he was sacrificed so the village doesn't get dirty hands, but old man allowed Anko to return and slug princess shares his ideology ._. In case that the truth gets revealed, we would have to change it anyway, or not?--Elveonora (talk) 15:58, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
Should something about an unnamed lover be mentioned in Itachi's family infobox. I mean Dan is mentioned in Tsunade's. See here for proof: No links ಠ_ಠ
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The video card is an ATI Radeon HD 4200M (for mobility). Drivers for this exist, but there is still a collision error.
Also, my wlan0 adapter is not detected, nor is my eth0 adapter. I am restricted to this computer, and cannot seem to find any driver support for either. I went to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/...ht=(BCM)|(4313) in order to try and download drivers for the laptop. I found that the chip was the Broadcom BCM4313 (which I am still not sure is 100% accurate, but there is not a lot of info on the laptop yet). I downloaded and followed the instructions of the tarbell, but met with no success. I still have no detected wlan0.
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