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Wednesday, October 22, 2008
Guest Blogger: Michelle Moran on How to Promote Your Book (Part 2)
Thanks so much to Michelle for putting together these incredible posts!
Get A Professional Website
Right around the time your final book cover appears, you should have a website up and running (or close to it). I don't mean a free, do-it-yourself website, but a real, professional-looking site with a photo of you that wasn't taken in the 1980s. When readers go surfing for author websites, they are looking for more information about you, your books, and what's coming next. If you really feel like going all out, create a page that's just for Bloggers, or a page that's just for Book Clubs, where readers and reviewers can contact you to set up talks, guest posts, Q&As, etc. This way, your website isn't just providing readers with great information, it's also actively working for you.
Start A Blog
On a similar note, if you're going to begin a blog, make sure there's constantly changing content which will keep people coming back day after day. If you're not sure where to start, check out what other authors are already doing. A great example of a blog which revolves around a particular theme is historical fiction author C.W. Gortner's Historical Boys, and a wonderful example of a more eclectic approach is historical romance author Deanna Raybourn's Blog A Go-Go. What I really can't recommend is starting a blog in which the posts are all about your book, your promotional activities, and where you can next be seen on tour. Who in the world is going to want to come back day after day to read that? Besides, news of that sort should be featured on your website under a "News" section (unless you find it easier to update a blog versus your website. In which case, make it clear you are not writing a blog, but an author-news page). Of course, if your blog has a theme or interesting content other than your promotional activities, it doesn't hurt to slip in a post every now and again about your own books.
Get To Know Reviewers
There are hundreds upon hundreds of reviewers out there, many of whom would gladly review your book if given the opportunity (and a free one). Every author receives copies of their own book after publication, and the day these arrive at my house are the same day they leave, signed to several dozen reviewers I've met online. Along with signed copies, I also ask the reviewers if they would like a guest post on a particular topic of their choosing (or a generic one), a Q&A of their own making (or, again, a generic one), and whether they'd like two free books to give away on their site. I do this until my books run out. This doesn't mean you should expect a good review (after all, you want the reviewers to be honest, otherwise their readers won't trust them), but you can expect "free" publicity. Book bloggers are some of the friendliest people in the world. They are also incredibly kind, and an email asking if they'd like a book to review is almost always answered with a yes (assuming you actually read their blog and know that it's the right blog to review your book).
Look to the newspapers
Writing an op-ed piece for a newspaper is a fantastic way of creating a little extra buzz for your book. Historical fiction author Robin Maxwell has contributed several pieces to the Huffington Post, many of which mention the subject of her previous books and all of which come with a bio. If you don't think you have anything to say which would warrant an entire column in a major newspaper, start thinking in terms of historical metaphors and similes. In one of Robin's columns, she compares Hillary Clinton to Anne Boleyn, the subject of her debut novel. By writing this piece, she increased awareness of her work and added a publishing credit to her already long list. Visibility never hurts (well… unless you're getting caught for plagiarizing). Just take a look at the hoopla surrounding Sherry Jones' novel The Jewel of Medina about the prophet Mohammed's nine year old wife. What began with an outraged reviewer and subsequent cancellation of her book turned into a publicity juggernaut and windfall for her. Almost any publicity is good publicity. If you don't believe that, just take a peek at James Frey's Amazon numbers three years after the publication of A Million Little Pieces, which caused Oprah to cry – and not in a good way. Of course, Amazon purchases count for a very small percentage of a book's overall sales, but nevertheless, the point remains. Publicity is your friend, and when it comes for free, it's your BFF.
Consider Hiring an Outside Publicist
While every author wants publicity, the in-house publicist who has been assigned to you is busy. In fact, she's more than busy, she's overwhelmed and probably spread too thin. She has many books to tend to, some of which may have been written by larger and more successful authors than you. Even if you're not at the bottom of the totem pole, you're still not going to be receiving weekly emails updating you on where books are being sent, and you're almost certainly not going to be getting phone calls asking which publicity ideas are your favorite and whether they should be implemented this week or next. The fact that your in-house publicist can't do all of this for you isn't personal, it's simply business. She is already doing everything she can to help your career and is probably even going out of her way to follow up on leads that may or may not go anywhere (unless you've acted like a jerk, in which case she's not going out of her way. With so many authors to juggle, who needs high-maintenance whiners?). Given all of this, it is possible that you may want to look into hiring an outside publicist, assuming that you're given the okay by your house.
The time to hire an outside publicist is a year before your book comes out. This will give the new publicist time to read your work, come up with a marketing and publicity plan, and hopefully begin implementing some of the more complicated plans long before your in-house publicist is even allowed to start working on your book (which is about three to five months before publication). A publicist is paid in a variety of ways. Some charge by the project, others work at an hourly rate (expect a quote of $50-$150/hr), while still others work month by month and will expect you to commit to a minimum number of hours for a minimum number of months. Usually, the minimum number of months is three, which is really a very short time for a good publicist to put together and implement a fantastic plan.
How do you know if a publicist is going to be worth it, since most will cost at least $10,000? Look at her list of past and current clients, then feel free to email them and ask their opinions. However, keep in mind that no one can guarantee a review in the NYT, and anyone who tells you differently probably has a side business selling used watches out of their trench-coat. Instead, what a good publicist can do for you is guarantee exposure. I happened to be at RWA in San Francisco while I was looking for a publicist, and after hearing bestselling author Debbie Macomber praise her publicist Nancy Berland, I had a meeting with a Borders Book Buyer who also recommended Nancy (out of the blue). Thinking that this was surely some sort of a sign, I did some research on my own, then decided to hire Nancy to help publicize (and market) my third book, Cleopatra's Daughter. The book comes out a year from the time of writing (September 2009) which makes this the perfect time to start planning a campaign.
Consider Doing Some of Your Own Marketing
Once the first chunk of your advance comes through (it's often sent in thirds: the first third upon signing, the second upon acceptance of the edited manuscript, and the last third upon publication) you may want to set aside a percentage for marketing. This can be anywhere from $500 to a whopping $150,000. If $150,000 sounds like an eye-popping amount, it certainly is, but some of the really big authors do set aside those kind of dollars for their outside publicists to market their work (or brand, in their case). For most authors, however, a few thousand dollars is more than enough, and once those dollars are set aside, the difficult job of deciding where to spend that money begins. Marketing can be done almost anywhere, and when I was looking into marketing my debut novel, I checked out every possibility, from radio commercials to display panels on public phone booths (yes, all five remaining ones). I even checked out billboards and theatre advertising.
The conclusion I came to was that online marketing gets the biggest bang for your buck. You've heard it before, and probably ad nauseum, but the internet is the future (and the present) of advertising. When Perez Hilton can charge $18,000 for a week's worth of advertising on his site and have so many ads they are stacked one on top of the other, you bet there's money to be made online. And he doesn't make that money without good reason. Whether or not you like his site, 49 million viewers a week check in, and that's a lot of eyeballs on your ad if you decide to buy a spot there. Ads like his can be purchased at blogads.com, or you can forget the hassle of doing it yourself and go through MJ Rose, who also offers her fantastic Author Buzz service to new authors which I can highly, highly recommend (in fact, if money is tight and you can do only one thing for your book, this might be what you want to purchase). MJ gets special rates on blogs like Perez, and her own blog, Buzz, Balls & Hype, has wonderful information on book marketing.
When choosing where to advertise, consider your book's target audience. I don't just mean male or female, old or young. I mean what do your readers do with their spare time? Are they gardeners or café dwellers? Do they own cats or dogs? When considering this for my debut novel on ancient Egypt, cat-lovers sprang to mind, and of all of my ads, the ones on cat-related sites have done the best. I also saw significant click-thrus on romance sites, even though my books aren't romance. And don't be afraid to call up or email places like the NYT or CNN to ask for their advertising rates. But before you do, be familiar with the lingo, because some of the bigger sites, like USA Today, will quote you prices in terms of CPM (cost per mille, which is Latin for a thousand) and ask what your ideal flight date is (a date which should correspond with your co-op).
When looking into places to advertise, some authors will consider radio ads, but my guess is that if you're going to do radio, you need to already be a brand. Since there's nothing for the listener to see, they must decide to purchase or not purchase the book based on a name. King is a brand. Patterson is a brand. For an author who isn't widely known, visual is probably better. I think radio is a reminder to readers that a new [insert brand name] has come out, whereas TV commercials can flash the book cover of an unknown author and see a bigger movement in sales. I would need to ask my marketing department to back me up on this, but that's my gut feeling.
Of course, an author can choose not to do any marketing at all. For my first novel, I set aside a part of my advance for it. But for my second novel, I did very little. Instead, my publishing house was willing to do most of the extra marketing (which I had done previously) on their own budget, and this is where knowing the difference between marketing and publicity (and meeting the people who work in these departments) comes in. Once you've done some of your own advertising and you know firsthand what works, you're in a much stronger position to email your marketing department and ask if they would like to foot the bill for a particular ad. Sometimes it will be a yes, sometimes it will be a no, but it's much more likely to be a "yes" if you can prove it's worked in the past.
Yet even with my publishing house paying for more ads, when my third novel comes out next year, I will be back to doing my own marketing. This isn't because my house will be doing less (Crown is wonderfully supportive, and any author who lands there is lucky in the extreme). It's because I believe that pitching-in is a good business decision. Moreover, the one who pays the bill is the one who has the control over the look and layout of the ads, of where the online ads should be linked, and which dates the ads should run. Being in control is rather nice, and I've discovered that although I'm definitively a Type B personality in everyday life, like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, I morph pretty furiously into a Type A when it comes to business decisions. Not only that, it's a matter of already having done the hard work. Since I took the time find out which online sites worked best for my first novel (and which designers could be counted on to produce something eye-catching in a timely fashion), purchasing an ad here and there no longer takes the time that it used to.
Create A Book Trailer
Books trailers come in many shapes and sizes, and by this I mean anything from home-made movies to studio-productions. A book trailer can be made for any type of novel, from nonfiction (see The Dangerous Book For Boys) to adult fiction (see The Judas Strain) to YA (see Rumors). If you decide to make a trailer for your book, the first thing you'll need to consider is your budget. If you're doing something produced at home, well then, no worries, but if you want to have photos with professional voiceover and copyrighted music, you'll be looking at spending at least $800. For something more upscale an author can hire a company like Expanded Books which made C.W. Gortner's trailer for his novel The Last Queen. And for a trailer made by an actual director who will use green-screen, hire actors, rent costumes, rustle up props and have an on-set stylist, you're looking at $5000 or so. I found the director I hired to shoot my book trailer for Cleopatra's Daughter on GalleyCat. Brady Hall was punctual, charming, enthusiastic, and best of all, open to any and all ideas. From concept to finished product, it took about a month.
Once your book trailer is finished, however, an author needs to start thinking about unique ways of utilizing it. Will you be playing it in theatres, using it for commercials, navigating the right channels to display it on B&N.com, or will you simply be posting it on YouTube and hoping for the best? Publishers rarely pay for book trailers themselves, since there's no way of knowing whether or not they work. Of course, you can always incorporate the trailer into an online ad and study the click-thus versus a static or flash ad. Then, armed with these numbers, perhaps your publisher may be more willing to pay for the next one. If not, an author must look at those numbers him/herself and determine whether the cost is worth it.
Get The Inside Scoop
Getting the inside scoop means knowing which options are available to your publishing house for promoting and marketing your book. By becoming familiar with these various options, you can be in the position of mentioning them to your editor or marketing contact as possibilities. Why wouldn't your publishing house simply act on these options versus waiting for you to bring them up? Because many of them are expensive, require extra time, and are only done for the books that are being given a huge marketing push.
The White Box, Red Box Program is something your publishing house can choose to participate in if they so desire. It is run through Indie Bound, which will send red and white colored boxes to all of the independent bookstores on their list. In the boxes are things like ARCs (Advanced Reader Copies – like galleys), tear-off shelf-talkers (paper displays which sit on the shelf and draw the reader's attention to a particular book), easel-back signs, posters, postcards, bookmarks and more. Each of these items come with a different price tag. In 2005, for example, sending a shelf-talker each to the nine hundred stores cost $50, while bookmarks cost $350. If you send these items to a bookstore on your own, the chances are that they will end up in the garbage (and cost a pretty penny to produce and mail). That is what makes WBRB so useful.
The White Box, Red Box program, however, isn't the only way of sending out these promotional items. Shelf-talkers can also be shipped to the big chains, like B&N and Borders. Getting them made will require the permission of your marketing department, just as floor displays (which go under co-op), require your marketing department's approval. You've seen these cardboard stands in B&N featuring twelve of an author's most recent books. They are quite pricey to make and ship, but if your publishing house hasn't mentioned them, ask anyway. The answer will probably be no, but it's worth a shot! And a firm "not possible" this time around just might turn into a "let's see what we can do" for the next book.
That means leave negativity alone. One would think this goes without saying, but a quick skim of Dear Author can tell you that many authors suffer from badreviewaphobia. This is the abnormal fear, and possibly even the uncontrollable rage, over a poor review, be it on Amazon, in a newspaper, or anywhere else. Take it as a fact that there will be readers who dislike your book. Forget dislike. There will be reviewers who loathe your book entirely (and maybe even you, as well). Justified or not, it is exceptionally foolish of an author to get into an online debate with a reviewer who doesn't like your book. Worse still is the author who sneakily asks a friend to go online and bash the reviewer. Take my word on this: you will be found out. In one way or another, even if no one can prove it, this will be discovered and readers will not trust your reviews or your books after this. So don't do it. Aside from the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, it is just poor form (and possibly karma – the jury is still out on this) to go after someone who is simply posting a review of how the book made them feel. There is no pleasing everyone, and if you got into publishing to be universally applauded, you are in the wrong business. Even if the reviewer completely got the name of your narrator wrong and is erroneous on several other points, let other readers point that out. If no one does, take a big old sip of that refreshing drink called Suckitup. You will face worse things in your career. Of course, you can insist that correcting a reviewer is simply standing up for your own work and that speaking out is your responsibility. Well… okay. But if you find readers making snarky comments about you on blogs over it, don't say I didn't I warn you. And if you think defending your reputation by going onto web forums or blogs in the guise of an anonymous poster (or more obvious, a new poster) is going to help sort things out, well then… there's just no helping some people.
Think Outside the "Box"
Lastly, don't be afraid to try new ways of publicity and marketing, even if you've never heard of anyone else doing it before. This is what a great publicist will do for you, and what you want to do for yourself. There are so many ways of promoting a book that aren't widely used, and many of them are free. You can host a cyber-launch party for yourself, which is what Elle Newmark did with her self-published novel now entitled The Book of Unholy Mischief. The cyber party began on Tuesday, and one week later she was signing a two-book deal with Simon & Schuster for seven figures. Or perhaps you want to set up your own virtual blog tour, which also comes "free" and is a great way of spreading the word about a book. Research, explore, and above all, save a little of that advance money in case any of the more expensive ideas appeal to you. No one can make your book a bestseller, but you can certainly give it the best chance possible by being proactive.
53 comments:
- Josephine Damian said...
Michelle, thanks for much for driving home the point that BSP should be kept to a minimum on blogs (and I'l add blog comments as well). The primary reason I stop reading the blog of a published author is because all they do is talk about their darn book.
And I see so many writers shoot themselves in the foot with a DIY website - bad design, not user-friendly, etc. - unless you're a professional web designer like "Conduit" writers should save up and hire a pro to design their website.
Great info here. Thanks!
- October 22, 2008 at 12:06 PM
- Marilyn Peake said...
Hi, Michelle,
Thank you for such wonderfully detailed book promotion suggestions!
I purchased your novels, Nefertiti and The Heretic Queen, today. They look like fascinating reads!
- October 22, 2008 at 12:13 PM
- Aubrey said...
Amazing, amazing info on here!
"Book bloggers are some of the friendliest people in the world. They are also incredibly kind, and an email asking if they'd like a book to review is almost always answered with a yes (assuming you actually read their blog and know that it's the right blog to review your book)."
Firstly thanks for the compliment! Secondly, I am such a blogger! Along with my pal Speed Reader who also reads this blog. Along with this post on self-promoting I will leave my e-mail and website for any authors who want a free publicity/Q&A. I am currently reading 2 ARCs and our blog in NOV is going to be dedicated to new author reviews/Q&A's.
Michelle, my question for you, is how can I maximize the publicity for our authors? We are posting our reviews and q&a's but we want to help out these new authors as much as possible. Cause let's face it, all authors can use free publicity!
- October 22, 2008 at 12:22 PM
- Aubrey said...
P.S. When you have something new coming out we would love to interview you Michelle! You are a great poster and I'm sure you would give an amazing q&A! ;)
- October 22, 2008 at 12:24 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Hi Aubrey,
Thank you so much! I think one way of maximizing publicity for authors is to post news of any contests on LibraryThing.com, Goodreads.com, or shelfari.com. Something else I've seen work really well is when a contest host gives extra consideration to bloggers who post about the contest on their blog.
As for maximizing publicity for things not related to contests - Q&As, guest posts, etc - I might suggest joining a forum where you can post news of this kind. For example, I belong to historicalfictionline.com, and one of the members updates us whenever she has a new Q&A. Now, I probably wouldn't suggest joining a forum solely to post such news (it's considered bad form, as you probably know), but it's one way of steering traffic to your site.
A few other ways might be link exchanges or commenting frequently on other people's blogs which you enjoy, so when you do have a new Q&A up, you can mention it on those blogs without being a spammer.
- October 22, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Hi Michelle,
A lot of wonderful information the last two days. It's much appreciated. I did have a question though, and it's about prioritizing these avenues of book promotion. For some people, let's say, who own their own business and work long hours, six days a week, with two small children at home, what would be the best things to focus if you want to avoid becoming an absentee parent? (Cough cough... a theoretical case here, of course)
So, what be the highest ranked priorities, as you see it? And maybe a highest ranked category for "free" options and "expense required" options?
Basically, if you were one of these theoretical persons with little money and time to spare, what options would you take?
And thanks again. Even if you don't have time to answer, I greatly appreciate these posts.
- October 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM
- Sheila said...
As a consumer, I purchase a lot of books based on seeing them reviewed on blogs.
I also buy the books of authors who go to great lengths to help other authors. I can't wait to read your books, Michelle. Thank you.
- October 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
- Stacey said...
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- October 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
- Aubrey said...
Thanks so much for the advice Michelle!
And Nathan, thank you for having her on! Your posts in general are wonderful. I have used your blog for research for articles on my own blog and I just love ya (in fact we have your blog linked to ours we like you so much!).
- October 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Marilyn: Thank you for purchasing the books - I hope you enjoy them!
So, what be the highest ranked priorities, as you see it? And maybe a highest ranked category for "free" options and "expense required" options?
In the "free" category, assuming I had limited time, I would probably write one or two Op Ed articles, see how they went, and if they didn't get picked up, then I would switch my plan to getting to know bloggers (but I would set a time limit for this activity, like half an hour or an hour each day).
In the expense category, I would probably save my money for purchasing my own blogads(because you can control the time/dollars/flight date), then do Author Buzz with MJ Rose if I had money left over.
It's hard though. There's no surefire way to success (however you define that), but no one can argue that exposure doesn't help, and that's what bloggers and blogads do. And again, keep in mind this is just one writer's opinion. If you spoke to another writer, they'd probably have different priorities.
- October 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM
- Leslie Johnson said...
Thank you so much for dropping by. These two posts have been very strait forward and I am sure that these lessons will come in handy (if anyone ever decides to publish anything of mine).
- October 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM
- Margaret Yang said...
I admire your positive attitude. It came through in both your posts. Asking yourself "what can I give?" (Useful information) rather than "what can I get?" (free publicity) is the road to this book buyer's heart. Your books had been on my wish list, now they're on my buy list.
- October 22, 2008 at 1:19 PM
This stuff is GOLD.
Thank you so much, Nathan and Michelle! Bookmarking all of it.
- October 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Dear Michelle,
Thanks so much for your informative postings. Any ideas regarding authors who don't want their picture on book covers or websites?
- October 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Hi Anon: Sure. Don't provide a photo. I'm not being sarcastic, I'm serious. Don't post photos on your website (or anywhere, for that matter, because a clever blogger will find it and repost it!! People like photos and they like associating a face with a name... but there are several reasons I can think of not to post a photo).
As for the book cover, request that your photo not be included. A publishing house should be fine with that. Sometimes authors purposely don't include photos because they want their sex to be ambiguous (which is one reason people use initials when writing).
- October 22, 2008 at 2:09 PM
- JES said...
Two outstanding posts. Thanks so much for the advice.
Although I gotta admit, the thought of funding a publicist ("most will cost at least $10,000") with a book advance gave me the willies. Guess it depends on the size of the advance. :)
- October 22, 2008 at 2:20 PM
- nomadshan said...
Again, thanks so much for taking the time to pass this information on to us. Detailed, current, and relevant -- can't wait to sink my teeth into it.
- October 22, 2008 at 2:22 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Jes: It definitely depends on the size of the advance (unless you have a trust fund, in which case, hire away!). For an author with a $25,000 advance, hiring a publicist would be the last thing I would recommend (or for that matter, making an expensive book trailer).
Some of these ideas should only be used (imo) by people whose advances are in the mid-high five figures and above. Other ideas - cyber launch parties, blog tours - can be used by anyone.
- October 22, 2008 at 2:25 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Thank you for taking the time to read it, Nomadshan. I hope it helps!
- October 22, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Uh..... just wondering.... but should the non-negativity section have a different heading? Seems like it should be under a different catagory.
- October 22, 2008 at 2:30 PM
- Kimber An said...
Hi, Michelle!
Oh, we love Michelle over at the Enduring Romance blog. I've reviewed both her books. We've thrown her a Cyber-Launch Book Party. Done a Q & A. Michelle is unfailingly kind and generous too. We enjoy doing stuff for authors who have good books, but also who are nice and fun to hang out with on-line.
An author cannot buy enthusiasm and a enthusiasm is a huge key to 'word-of-mouth' promotion.
P.S. If you want to check out Michelle's stuff at Enduring Romance, pop over and click on her name in the directory.
- October 22, 2008 at 2:40 PM
- Stacey said...
Michelle, would you suggest that an unpublished author start a blog and get involved in the online book community as a way to get their name out there? Do you think this sort of thing would at all help getting a book picked up for representation?
- October 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Kimber An: It's like a party of all of my favorite bloggers over here!
And Stacey: that really depends on what your goals are. There are so many blogs out there that to start your own blog with the purpose of getting noticed (read getting an agent/book deal) would require a really unique concept, a HUGE following, and exceptionally smart, witty writing on the topic/s of choice.
However, I can think of many other reasons to start a blog which don't include getting noticed by agents or editors. For example, Kimber An has several wonderful blogs, one of which hosts author Q&As and book reviews. In order to do those Q&As, Kimber had to contact the authors and get to know them. She's making contacts, which can be very important if those contacts happen to write in the same genre she does. Now, when she publishes her first book, she can go back to those authors and ask them for blurbs. It doesn't guarantee a blurb, but it is far more likely that a busy author is going to read her galley versus a galley written by someone s/he doesn't know.
Blogs help generate free publicity for authors, but they can also help the blogger make invaluable contacts. So it all depends on the type of blog, I guess...
- October 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM
- AC said...
Thanks, Michelle. Your post is incredibly helpful.
I definitely read blog reviews to find new books. I keep a "to read" list on my Blackberry, and whenever I come across something that looks good, I just add it to the list.
- October 22, 2008 at 3:20 PM
- Sandra said...
Thank you so much for sharing these great ideas with us!
- October 22, 2008 at 3:20 PM
- Deaf Brown Trash Punk said...
that's nice, but I barely have any money to build my own website, let alone hire a publicist.
These are some good advice, though.
- October 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Deaf Brown Trash Punk: I think that's the case for most people.
Perhaps you can concentrate on the free: blog tours, blog Q&As, guest posts, op-ed articles, cyber launches, book signings, link exchanges, etc. I know I'm forgetting a few things here, like myspace which some authors really like... Or even giving away books for free to increase awareness. That's what MJ Rose is doing and she's blogging about it today on Buzz, Balls & Hype:
Huff Post even did an article about it. So by giving away something for free, she's getting new readers and national publicity.
- October 22, 2008 at 3:41 PM
- Laura D said...
Michelle, I am really impressed with your candour and generosity with all this info. Thanks so much because time is running out for me to get publicity since I self-published. I can only sell my books for two years before I have to pay for a re-publish. Now at least I have a place to start.
- October 22, 2008 at 4:02 PM
- Jessica Burkhart said...
Thank you so much, Michelle! This is excellent advice! :)
- October 22, 2008 at 4:09 PM
- Ms. I said...
Awesome advise. Wow. I never knew there was so much to it. This was very, very helpful!
- October 22, 2008 at 5:19 PM
- Marilyn Peake said...
Hi, Michelle,
Do you have a link to the Huffington Post article about giving away books for free? I looked for it, but couldn't find it.
- October 22, 2008 at 5:35 PM
- cindy said...
this rocks! thanks again, michelle! i'm gonna link on the blue boards for more traffic! =)
- October 22, 2008 at 5:36 PM
- Crimogenic said...
A very detailed fantastic post on marketing and an author's ability to help her book (but unpublished and published). Thanks so much again.
- October 22, 2008 at 5:39 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Hi Marilyn,
Here you go:
She wrote the piece herself, so I'm not sure I was accurate in saying "Huff Post did an article about it". Perhaps I should have said they ran an article about it.
Interesting stuff.
And thank you, Cindy!
- October 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM
- Genella deGrey said...
Michelle -
The info you've shared with us about book promotion is invaluable!
Thank you so much!
Genella deGrey
- October 22, 2008 at 5:45 PM
- Yat-Yee said...
Thanks for the wealth of information, may all the goodwill you put out there come back hundred fold!
Now that I know where to go to get information about promoting a book, I just need to go polish up mine.
- October 22, 2008 at 6:21 PM
While it's true that people aren't going to buy your book if they don't know about it, and while it's true that personal marketing does have benefits of spreading the word and impressing the publisher and things of that nature, I have to wonder if self marketing really has any fundamental benefit to one's career.
In other words, there's no question it does make *a* difference, but does it make *the* difference between selling out an advance and leading to book number two?
I suspect that taken as a whole, the books whose authors do self-marketing will earn out their advance (or even break out) at the same percentage as books whose authors make no effort.
In other words, luck and chance, which a writer has no control over, play a far larger role in terms of the big picture, the book's ultimate success and the author's career. (Even a publisher getting behind a book in a big way is no guarantee the book will break out)
Don't get me wrong: I am not a grouch saying self-marketing is not worth it. And who knows, since this is just informal opinion, I could be wrong.
- October 22, 2008 at 6:55 PM
- Laura D said...
In response to Annonymous, of course exposure can make "the" difference. How do you think Britney Spears made it? She was everwhere and probably was before you even knew she existed. Sometimes it's a matter of just hitting at the right time, but exposure has always been the way to go...and self exposure shows people you're willing to put yourself out there. (Both fans and the people putting money into you)
- October 22, 2008 at 7:24 PM
- Marilyn Peake said...
Michelle -
Thanks for the link to the Huffington Post article.
- October 22, 2008 at 7:40 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
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- October 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Anonymous 3:55: "I suspect that taken as a whole, the books whose authors do self-marketing will earn out their advance (or even break out) at the same percentage as books whose authors make no effort."
I have no hard facts, and Nathan can't share the percentage of his published clients who sell out their advances because that would go against client confidentiality. However, I can tell you this. I am very close to quite a few published authors, and most of us share our numbers openly. Of all of those authors, however, a very small fraction (less than ten percent) have sold out their advances. Maybe I just happen to know a lot of authors whose advances were higher than they "should have" been if you're looking purely at economics. Or maybe that reflects the state of earning out advances in general - I don't know. What I can say with certainty, however, is that every one of the authors I know who sold out their advance did (or started off their career by doing) significant marketing and publicity on their own.
Sometimes, lightning does strike and a book takes off on its own. But when I'm giving advice to my friends, I don't tell them to wait for lightning. I know it's not what people like to hear. It's unfair. It sucks. Authors should be writing, not spending their time have to promote. But since they're my friends, I want them to know the truth (as I've experienced it, and as many authors I know have experienced it).
- October 22, 2008 at 8:41 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
Oops - make that "having to promote".
- October 22, 2008 at 8:43 PM
- Tia Nevitt said...
As a successful blogging reviewer, I must say that I LOVE Michelle's "For Bloggers" webpage! In one convenient place, Michelle has placed all the things that I hunt down all over the Internet for a typical Debut Showcase. (Sometimes, I can't even find a decent cover image on the publisher webpage.) In fact, her "for bloggers" page has given me some ideas of things I can add to improve my showcases.
So if you are an author, I second her recommendation to add a "For Bloggers" page. Great idea! I'll be looking for more of these for my upcoming debuts!
- October 22, 2008 at 8:54 PM
- Steppe said...
Herman Melville wrote Moby Dick and everyone said it sucked. A stupid story about a big fish. Eventually he believed his critics and got a nice cozy job as port inspector of New York.
I haven't read your books but I admire you pluck and spunk and go to it attitude... But mostly it was the little revealing tidbits you threwin as answers to questions that I found very valuable.
In all those books that didn't earn the publisher back the advance money there may be a great piece of literature that survives. Nobody really knows for sure.
Keep writing and congratulations on your suceess so far and as to the future "Break a leg"
Mr Anti-Jinx
thx again P.S. I could never do all that stuff described but for those who can I salute you sincerey.
- October 22, 2008 at 9:29 PM
- Maggie Stiefvater said...
This was brilliant! Thanks, Michelle, for giving me other ideas to add to my arsenal. I love the idea of adding a "for bloggers" page to the website -- you're right, we get asked for the same things again and again. Just common sense. Duhhhhh.
Thanks, so much, Nathan, for having her!
- October 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM
- C.W. Gortner said...
Michelle, as usual, FANTASTIC information!
I also "ditto" everything she says. I met Michelle before my novel The Last Queen was released. Her generosity and sage marketing advice helped me enormously. I hired MJ Rose for Author Buzz, did three separate rounds of blog ads, as well as MJ's other programs, and went on virtual tour through Pump Up YourBook Promotion. All the bloggers who hosted me were unfailingly kind, enthusiastic and helpful; I owe a great deal of the book's success to their efforts.
Without this type of support, facing the release of my novel would have been a daunting experience; instead, I found it to be fun and interesting. Like Michelle, I got great support from Ballantine Books, but the truth is publisher marketing budgets are finite, and today, with so many entertainment options competing for consumer attention, a well-planned marketing schedule can make the difference between getting that next book deal and despairing over massive returns and remaindering of your treasured book.
You take years to write it; with some money set aside for marketing, you can reap the rewards.
Marketing may not be an author's favorite activity but as Michelle points out, it's essential these days for most writers unless you're a brand name, sold your book for a huge advance that guarantees your publisher will do big-time marketing or you're a celebrity (which usually means you qualify for all of the above).
- October 22, 2008 at 11:14 PM
- Erik said...
I have my own secret ... :-)
- October 22, 2008 at 11:39 PM
- Michelle Moran said...
All right Erik... Are you spilling the beans or am I emailing you?
- October 22, 2008 at 11:43 PM
- Maris Bosquet said...
Thanks so much for taking the time and passing along such terrific advice, Michelle!
I was wondering about taglines: Does it help authors to have taglines for their work, especially if they go the trailer route? Thanks!
- October 23, 2008 at 6:24 AM
- Zoe Winters said...
This is great advice, but I think it's important for writers to be very careful in where they spend their money and how. If the advance doesn't warrant it, I wouldn't blow a lot of money in marketing. I mean if a publisher is unwilling to invest in and push your book, it's a little silly to expect the writer to shell out a lot of their own money for that.
We hear all the time that money flows to the author, but as more and more publishers expect more and more promotion on the part of the author, and more are encouraged to spend a lot of money doing this...doesn't the line get very fuzzy over who and who isn't "paying to publish?"
If one would spend that much money, why not invest in one's own product and have full creative control? Not to stir the pot, but I'm just saying.
Also, as for websites, keep in mind there are several ways to skin a cat. Hiring a web designer may or may not be the wisest decision. I once spent about $800 (about 9 years ago) on a site for my wedding coordinating business.
I'm so fussy about what I wanted, that I would have been better served by getting Frontpage or Dreamweaver and learning to design myself.
Some people either have or can learn the design skills they need. Or one can get a wordpress blog (there are more templates available on wordpress.org as opposed to the freebie .com site.)
The most important thing about a website, IMO, is the author really needs to be able to update it herself. Otherwise it's just more money down the drain for simple site updates.
- October 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM
- Michelle Moran said...
Erik: Thank you for responding to my email!
Maris: For taglines, I find them extremely helpful in creating ads (and hopefully it works on trailers... I guess I'll find out!). Plus, many authors use taglines when creating their websites or the signatures on their emails.
Zoe: I couldn't agree more about learning design skills. I taught myself html (which is very simple) and DreamWeaver, and I can't imagine the money I've saved in doing so.
- October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM
- Maris Bosquet said...
Thanks, Michelle! The way I see it, if taglines work for movies, they ought to work for books and book trailers, too. I'm sure you'll do just fine if you use them in your trailers. ;)
- October 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Came late to the blog this week (vacation!). A belated thanks for two great columns, Michelle.
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On NBC's Today, Smerconish cherry-picked stock and Iraq data to crown Bush the "new comeback kid"
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On NBC's Today, Michael Smerconish selectively cited the stock market's performance and cherry-picked favorable data from a New York Times op-ed to claim that President Bush was making a "comeback." In fact, the Dow Jones industrial average has headed downward dramatically in recent weeks before experiencing a partial recovery in recent days, and other data cited in the Times op-ed led its authors to conclude that "it is increasingly hard to describe Iraq as a glass half-full."
On the June 16 edition of NBC's Today, conservative radio host Michael Smerconish selectively cited the stock market's performance over a two-day period and cherry-picked favorable data from a June 16 New York Times op-ed to support his claim that President Bush was making a "comeback" after enjoying "an extraordinary week and month." In fact, the Dow Jones industrial average has headed downward dramatically in recent weeks before experiencing a partial recovery in recent days, and other data cited in the Times op-ed led its authors to conclude that "it is increasingly hard to describe Iraq as a glass half-full."
During a panel discussion featuring Democratic strategist James Carville and moderated by guest host Campbell Brown, Brown asked Smerconish whether people will "look back" on the past week as "the week President Bush got his mojo back." Smerconish responded that Bush was "the new comeback kid" -- a reference to former President Clinton's onetime nickname in the press -- and stated that "the market just had the best two days in the last three years." He later asserted that it has been "an extraordinary week and month for the president," given the performance of the stock market and other news favorable to Bush.
But the gains made by the Dow Jones industrial average on June 14 and 15 came after weeks of losses. The Dow closed at 10,706 on June 13, rising 309 points over the course of the next two days to a June 15 close of 11,015. But these gains constituted only a partial recovery from the Dow's losses in preceding weeks -- 937 points from its May 10 close, a relative peak of 11,643, to its June 13 close.
Further undermining Smerconish's suggestion that the performance of the stock market had contributed to "an extraordinary week and month" for Bush, the Dow had gained a mere 76 points during the five business days prior to Smerconish's statement, dropping 233 points from a June 8 closing of 10,939 to its June 13 closing of 10,706, before rising to 11,015 on June 15. Moreover, the Dow actually lost 414 points during the supposedly "extraordinary" month Bush had. From its May 15 closing of 11,429, the Dow dropped 723 points to its June 13 closing of 10,706, before partially recovering to close at 11,015 on June 15.
Additionally, Smerconish baselessly accused Carville of engaging in "a pretty selective reading of the data" contained in the 16 New York Times op-ed, when in fact it was Smerconish who appeared to be cherry-picking statistics from the op-ed. Smerconish made his remarks in response to Carville's assertion that "this morning, we see in the paper" several indications of slow or nonexistent progress in Iraq -- that Iraqis' confidence in their government is "plummeting," that oil production is below prewar levels, that "electricity is below" prewar levels*, and that "insurgent attacks are up." Although Carville did not state which newspaper he was citing, Smerconish accused Carville of "a pretty selective reading of the data that's presented by the Brookings Institution in today's New York Times." Apparently referring to an op-ed by the Brookings Institution's Nina Kamp and Michael O'Hanlon, along with graphic designer Amy Unikewicz, Smerconish stated that "[t]he most critical bit of information" was that "60,000 Iraqi police officers and soldiers" are now in the top two readiness tiers, in the Pentagon's four-tier classification system for Iraqi troop readiness.
In fact, it was Smerconish who selectively cited the Times op-ed. Although a chart accompanying the article did show that more Iraqi police officers and soldiers are now in the top two readiness tiers (60,000 in May 2006, up from 20,000 in May 2005), the authors cited additional information on the state of affairs in Iraq, including most of what Carville mentioned, to reach a much less optimistic conclusion than that suggested by Smerconish: that "it is increasingly hard to describe Iraq as a glass half-full."
From the June 16 New York Times op-ed:
Unfortunately, according to our latest tally of metrics (compiled from a variety of government and news media sources), Iraq has a long way to go.
Violence on the whole is as bad as ever. Sectarian strife is worse than ever. The economy has slowly come back to prewar levels for the most part, but is now treading water. As a result, optimism has waned. According to an International Republican Institute poll conducted in late March, more than 75 percent of Iraqis consider the security environment to be poor and the economy poor or mediocre.
Those looking for signs of promise in Iraq can still find footholds beyond the killing of the terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The security forces, particularly the Iraqi Army, continue to improve in technical proficiency -- even if their interethnic cohesiveness remains suspect. Reductions in consumer subsidies have strengthened the financial standing of the government, and high oil prices compensate for Iraq's anemic production levels. But overall, it is increasingly hard to describe Iraq as a glass half-full.
*As Media Matters for America has noted, the State Department's April 2006 Section 2207 Report on Iraq Relief and Reconstruction estimated nationwide prewar electricity availability in Iraq at between four and 12 hours daily, suggesting that the current availability of 11.3 hours per day could be an improvement. But the report also estimated prewar electricity availability in Baghdad at between 12 and 24 hours daily, decidedly higher than the current 8.4 hours of availability.
From the June 16 broadcast of NBC's Today:
BROWN: So let me ask you both this question, and Michael, you start. Are we going to look back at this week and say, "This is the week President Bush got his mojo back?"
SMERCONISH: You know, James earned his stripes working for a guy who was eventually dubbed "the comeback kid," and James, there -- there's a new comeback kid. It's George W. Bush. It's great news not only, Campbell, for the president, but really any objective analysis of what's transpired, folks would have to say it's great news for the country. Zarqawi is dead. A treasure trove of documents has now been uncovered in the process and we're clamping down on the insurgents. Good things are happening in Iraq, where there's a fully formed government. On the domestic front, the market just had the best two days in the last three years. From the president's perspective, good news that Karl Rove isn't going to be indicted. Even on the immigration front, there's good news because guys got rounded up within the last couple of days. Some bad seeds who are being returned to their home country. So take out the hyperbole, anyone would have to say an extraordinary week and month for the president.
BROWN: All right. James. You're laughing. Go ahead.
CARVILLE: Yes. You know, yes. I mean, it's -- it's kind of -- it's kind of a pitiful thing. This is the biggest one point jump in an approval rating in the history of American politics. If he ever got to 40, I think Norah O'Donnell and her colleagues would have a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue for him. This is wild. He's at 37 percent and his top aide didn't get indicted. What a week for this administration! Then we wake up this morning, we see in the paper that -- that confidence in Iraq's -- in Iraqis and their government is plummeting. Oil production is below pre-war levels. Electricity is below. The number of insurgent attacks are [sic] up. But look, it is good we got this guy out. I just -- for the life of me, he goes from 36 to 37 and we're about to declare a national holiday in this country. You talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations. I -- I can't imagine that we're sitting here with NBC's own poll showing -- showing the president --
BROWN: All right, James. Let me clarify something. Let me just clarify something, because the poll was taken after Zarqawi was killed, but before Rove -- the announcement was made that Rove wasn't going to be prosecuted and before -- before Bush went to Iraq. But in fairness you make -- you make an OK point, and Michael, getting Zarqawi was a big deal and the president did only move up one point in our Wall Street Journal poll. What do you attribute that to?
SMERCONISH: Well I don't think it has yet settled in, all of the good things that have taken place in Iraq. And James, respectfully, that's a pretty selective reading of the data that's presented by the Brookings Institution in today's New York Times. The most critical bit of information, from my reading, is that 60,000 Iraqi police officers and soldiers are now in the top two readiness categories. In other words, to determine their own destiny and take control of their own situation. And that's what's most important. Because we all want to get out of there sooner rather than later. And it looks like, Campbell, the Iraqi police are finally trained to protect themselves.
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Post subject: 3-Round Mock, Working my way up to 7!
Round 1
1. Indianapolis Colts- Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
2. Washington Redskins (via St. Louis)- Robert Griffin III, QB Baylor
3. Minnesota Vikings- Morris Claiborne, CB LSU
4. Cleveland Browns- Trent Richardson, RB Alabama
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Luke Kuechly, ILB Boston College
6. St. Louis Rams (via Washington)- Fletcher Cox, DT Mississippi State
7. Jacksonville Jaguars- Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State
8. Miami Dolphins- Ryan Tannenhill, QB Texas A&M
9. Carolina Panthers- Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina
10. Buffalo Bills- Matt Kalil, OT USC
11. Kansas City Chiefs- Dontari Poe, DT Memphis
12. Seattle Seahawks- Quinton Coples, DE North Carolina
13. Arizona Cardinals- Michael Floyd, WR Notre Dame
14. Dallas Cowboys- Michael Brockers, DL Louisiana State
15. Philadelphia Eagles- Devon Still, DT Penn State
16. New York Jets- Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB South Carolina
17. Cincinnati Bengals (via Oakland)- David DeCastro, OG Stanford
18. San Diego Chargers- Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB Alabama
19. Chicago Bears- Nick Perry, DE/OLB USC
20. Tennessee Titans- Dre Kirkpatrick, CB Alabama
21. Cincinnatti Bengals- Kendall Wright, WR Baylor
22. Cleveland Browns(via Atlanta)- Stephen Hill, WR Georgia Tech
23. Detroit Lions- Riley Reiff, OT Iowa
24. Pittsburgh Steelers- Cordy Glenn, OG Georgia
25. Denver Broncos- Jerel Worthy, DT Michigan State
26. Houston Texans- Reuben Randle, WR Louisiana State
27. New England Patriots (Via New Orleans)- Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB Illinois
28. Green Bay Packers- Shea McClellin, DE/OLB Boise State
29. Baltimore Ravens- Donta Hightower, LB Alabama
30. San Francisco 49ers- Coby Fleener, TE Stanford
31. New England Patriots- Mark Barron, SS Alabama
32. New York Giants- Doug Martin, RB Boise State
Round 2
33. St. Louis Rams- Kendall Reyes, DT Connecticut
34. Indianapolis Colts- Peter Konz, C Wisconsin
35. Minnesota Vikings- Jonathan Martin, OT Stanford
36. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Janoris Jenkins, CB North Alabama
37. Cleveland Browns- Brandon Weeden, QB Oklahoma State
38. Jacksonville Jaguars- Andre Branch, DE/OLB Clemson
39. St. Louis Rams (via Washington)- David Wilson, RB Virginia Tech
40. Carolina Panthers- Alshon Jeffrey, WR South Carolina
41. Buffalo Bills- Chandler Jones, DE/OLB Syracuse
42. Miami Dolphins- Dwayne Allen, TE Clemson
43. Seattle Seahawks- Zach Brown, OLB North Carolina
44. Kansas City Chiefs- Mike Adams, OT Ohio State
45. Dallas Cowboys- Kevin Zeitler, OG Wisconsin
46. Philadelphia Eagles (via Arizona)- Vinny Curry, DE Marshall
47. New York Jets- Lamar Miller, RB Miami
48. New England Patriots (via Oakland)- Chris Givens, WR Wake Forest
49. San Diego Chargers- Amini Silatolu, OG Midwestern State
50. Chicago Bears- Josh Robinson, CB Central Florida
51. Philadelphia Eagles- Harrison Smith, SS Notre Dame
52. Tennessee Titans- Brandon Thompson, DT Clemson
53. Cincinnati Bengals- Chris Polk, RB Washington
54. Detroit Lions- Lavonte David, LB Nebraska
55. Atlanta Falcons- Bobby Massie, OT Ole Miss
56. Pittsburgh Steelers- Jayron Hosley, CB Virginia Tech
57. Denver Broncos- Brock Osweiler, QB Arizona State
58. Houston Texans - Alameda Ta'amu, NT Washington
59. Green Bay Packers- Jared Crick, DE Nebraska
60. Baltimore Ravens- Mohamed Sanu, WR Rutgers
61. San Francisco 49ers- Billy Winn, DL Boise State
62. New England Patriots- Alphonzo Dennard, CB Nebraska
63. New York Giants- Trumaine Johnson, CB/S Montana
Round 3
64. Indianapolis Colts- Juron Criner, WR Arizona
65. St. Louis Rams- Greg Childs, WR Arkansas
66. Minnesota Vikings- Bobby Wagner, LB Utah State
67. Cleveland Browns- Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB West Virginia
68. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Isaiah Pead, RB Cincinnati
69. Washington Redskins- Ronnell Lewis, LB Oklahoma
70. Jacksonville Jaguars- Brandon Boykin, CB Georgia
71. Buffalo Bills- AJ Jenkins, WR Illinois
72. Miami Dolphins (via Carolina)- Kelechi Osmele, OL Iowa State
73. Miami Dolphins- Brian Quick, WR Appalachian State
74. Kansas City Chiefs- Kirk Cousins, QB Michigan State
75. Seattle Seahawks- Brandon Brooks, OG Miami (OH)
76. Houston Texans- Jeff Allen, OT Illinois
77. New York Jets- Mitchell Scwartz, OT California
78. San Diego Chargers- George Iloka, FS Boise State
79. Chicago Bears: Mychal Kendricks, LB California
80. Arizona Cardinals- Cam Johnson, DE/OLB Virginia
81. Dallas Cowboys- Jamell Fleming, CB Oklahoma
82. Tennessee Titans- Tyrone Crawford, DE Boise State
83. Cincinnati Bengals- Zerbie Sanders, OL Florida State
84. Atlanta Falcons- Ladarius Green, TE Louisiana-LaFayette
85. Detroit Lions- Ben Jones, C Georgia
86. Pittsburgh Steelers- Sean Spence, LB Miami
87. Denver Broncos- LaMichael James, RB Oregon
88. Philadelphia Eagles- Casey Hayward, CB Vanderbilt
89. New Orleans Saints- Derek Wolfe, DT Cincinnati
90. Green Bay Packers- Bernard Pierce, RB Temple
91. Baltimore Ravens- Markelle Martin, FS Oklahoma State
92. San Francisco 49ers- Ryans Broyles, WR Oklahoma
93. New England Patriots- Mike Martin, DL Michigan
94. New York Giants- Orson Charles, TE Georgia
95. Oakland Raiders- Donald Stephenson, OT Oklahoma
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DeCastro and Barron on the board and you have Dallas reach for an average DL, no.. Fleming is also a reach in the third imo.
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waremd wrote:
DeCastro and Barron on the board and you have Dallas reach for an average DL, no.. Fleming is also a reach in the third imo.
I thought about DeCastro. Fleming is top 60 on my BB. I can change the first rounder, but you thinking it would be a reach is not fixable because on my board it was a steal
Thanks for the info though. One of the only Cowboys opinions I've gotten.
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Looks great so far, some very realistic reaches like oswieler to Denver in the 2nd.
I think if there are any ol falls like you have with with osmele, the skins would have to go with that value + need combo
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I don't see the Browns going 3 rounds without taking an offensive linemen. In fact, I think they'd do that before Weeden. I think Irvin in 4th round at least. He has way too many red flags.
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Barron at 21, Sanu at 53 and James in the 3rd and its great
Big thanks to kacymcbryant18 for the sig....^^
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The Rams will not take Cox over both Kalil and Blackmon. I think thats pretty much a lock.
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:12 pm
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I would be pretty disappointed if the draft played out this way.
I think Poe is overrated. Give us DeCastro or allow us to Trade down in this scenario.
We don't have much room for Adams at this point. Yeah we really need depth along the OL and OT, but we can get that a bit later. We have bigger fish to fry here. If we dont go DeCastro in the 1st, Silatolu would be awesome. Harrison Smith would be awesome as well.
Not a fan of Cousins. Is really similar to Ricky Stanzi and his ceiling isn't any higher IMO. Mychal Kendricks, Bernard Pierce, Markelle Martin, Orson Charles are all better.
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stl4life07 wrote:
The Rams will not take Cox over both Kalil and Blackmon. I think thats pretty much a lock.
I wouldn't be too sure on that. I thought about going Kalil there, and a lot of teams aren't high on Blackmon as a #1 receiver.
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Why should we reach on Still?
Why draft another SS so high?
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Anna Kendricks are always nice.
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This is a great mock if you switch our 3rd round pick to Ben Jones.
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very good for the jags
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Awesome mock for the lions.
Great job!
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Why should we reach on Still?
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No need for Jones in round 2. With the switch back to 4-3 and adding two DE's through free agency we have other pressing needs. I would want Lavonte David with that pick, but wouldnt mind a WR or CB in this spot either.
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First of all ARP is not a routed protocol, it is used only internally and does not usually traverse networks This is not strictly true, it can traverse via a network bridge but as it is a broadcast protocol is does not typically go anywhere any other broadcast wouldn't.
ARP. ARP is _entirely_ local.... TCP/IP, UDP etc. are remote, (they are routing protocols).<---------great bath room reading
The "secret" is the subnet mask..... Yeah, that nasty complicated thing they make you study.... They never really tell you what it's for I'll let the dog out of the bag.
The subnet mask really is only used for one thing (not really)... Determining whether the IP address of the machine to be contacted is "local". It may be through routers still but it could still be considered local depending upon the router's configuration and the subnet mask. If the destination IP address doesn't fit in the subnet mask then the returned packet is sent to the default gateway, if it fits the subnet mask and the _local_ ARP table doesn't hold the required information, (the MAC address), then an ARP request is sent out to get the MAC address of the machine.
Thus, it is either impossible or _really really_ difficult, (depends on the security level of the network as a whole), to ARP poison a remote network, (you have to have a network that is relatively "local" and wide open to broadcasts of ARP to be able to accomplish it!
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Thread: Would you do a belly cast?
30th January 2012 10:50 AM #1
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Would you do a belly cast?
Belly casting was not something that I was even aware of when I had my first three babies. But when I switched midwives for my 4th, she had a belly cast on the wall of her bedroom, where I had my prenatal visit. That was my first introduction to belly casting.
When I was pregnant with my 5th baby, I considered having a belly cast done. My midwife does them. But my husband wasn't very supportive and I suppose I didn't really think I'd like to hang it on my wall. I just liked the idea of remembering that big belly as I had a feeling this would be my last pregnancy (I should have taken pregnancy pictures instead...)
Did you consider belly casting? Who did it for you?
Would you want to have one done?
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i did one with my 8th bub last year. we did it ourselves. hubby & my 2 girls(aged10 & 12 at the time) did the plastering. the idea was to paint it & hang on my bedroom wall near my photos from an early pregnancy. I still haven't finished it but the actual cast turned out great.
I only became aware of belly casting last pregnancy & just had to do it. keeping/making momento's of my earlier pregnancies never really crossed my mind, but the more children i have the more precious the whole journey is to me. For my current pregnancy(which will probably be my last) I am going all out with belly painting & photography as well as having my birth photographed.
i WILL finish my last cast before the new bub arrives & hang it on my wall.
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Geri - how fun to have your husband do that for you. I'll bet he had lots of fun... I know my husband would have!
31st January 2012 02:56 AM #4
This is something I'd like to do next time around. I think the pregnant form is beautiful and it's a lovely way of remembering how big your belly actually got!


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Cruzin' to Colby is a rolling tribute to the automobile.
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Those bygone times make a return each year on Memorial Day weekend when Cruzin' to Colby revs up in downtown Everett.
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"It's not that it's the prettiest thing … but the reason that we use that dry-cleaner thing is that this is where [you] can hold the most clothes," she explained matter-of-factly.
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here is the fix for backtrack5 KDE4 64bit ::
then 'startx', and there be the glorious KDE4 64bit on backtrack 5 :cool: pics to prove it attached :DCode:
rm /root/.kde/cache-root/icon-cache.kcache
rm /root/.kde/cache-root/plasma_theme_Volatile.kcache
rm /root/.kde/cache-bt/icon-cache.kcache
rm /root/.kde/cache-bt/plasma_theme_Volatile.kcache
FYI => you will need to run the above 'rm' commands multiple times during the install and upgrade process. the rule is, if 'startx' fails on you, run the above commands.
as KMDave points out, you may need to also remove the cache folders in /var/tmp like so ::
rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-<username>
I debated wether to put this post in BUGS or somewhere's else, but final decision was here.. MODs feel free to move it if I choose wrong.
I am running VMware Workstation 7.1.4 (7.1.4 build-385536), Win7 ultimate x64 as host OS -> BT5-KDE4-64(.iso) as guest OS.
(the BT5-GNOME-VM 32bit works great, btw)
here's the issue I face currently. I can boot the BT5-KDE4-64(.iso) within VMware, and I choose the default text console, it boots fine... the trouble is that I cannot get KDE4 to work. as soon as I punch in 'startx' I see the initial graphical KDE4 start-up "loading.." screen with the 4 icons. the thing here is that the 1st icon is the ONLY icon that ever gets highlighted. after a few moments X errors out and kicks me to the text console again. :(
here are the errors I get once xorg kicks me out ::
here are some interesting errors from /var/log/messages ::Code:
X.Org X Server 1.7.6
Release Date: 2010-03-17
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-28-server x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux root 2.6.38 #1 SMP Thu Mar 17 22:59:29 EDT 2011 x86_64
Kernel command line: file=/cdrom/preseed/custom.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz text splash vga=791-- BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz
Build Date: 08 March 2011 08:22:34AM
xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.6 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed May 11 03:23:34 2011
(==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d"
error setting MTRR (base = 0xd0000000, size = 0x01000000, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)
waiting for X server to shut down .error setting MTRR (base = 0xd0000000, size = 0x01000000, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)
ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
I'm hoping someone can help me out, or has a suggestion on what to try. the fact being that the KDE4 graphical screen comes up just fine makes me think this isn't a graphical issue.Code:
May 11 02:44:21 root kernel: [ 601.390887] kded4[2515] trap divide error ip:7fe9a534b61f sp:7fff262eff70 error:0 in libkdecore.so.5.5.0[7fe9a50fd000+2c1000]
May 11 02:44:31 root kernel: [ 611.391138] kcminit_startup[2519] trap divide error ip:7fbe4161961f sp:7fffc2d6b4a0 error:0 in libkdecore.so.5.5.0[7fbe413cb000+2c1000]
May 11 02:44:41 root kernel: [ 621.391287] ksmserver[2522] trap divide error ip:7fa4d9d2a61f sp:7fffe85241d0 error:0 in libkdecore.so.5.5.0[7fa4d9adc000+2c1000]
May 11 02:50:37 root kernel: [ 977.391261] kded4[2693] trap divide error ip:7f3377fab61f sp:7fff76aee970 error:0 in libkdecore.so.5.5.0[7f3377d5d000+2c1000]
May 11 02:50:47 root kernel: [ 987.390960] kcminit_startup[2697] trap divide error ip:7f154d85661f sp:7fff093a22a0 error:0 in libkdecore.so.5.5.0[7f154d608000+2c1000]
May 11 02:50:57 root kernel: [ 997.391154] ksmserver[2701] trap divide error ip:7feab2ee661f sp:7fff3c003690 error:0 in libkdecore.so.5.5.0[7feab2c98000+2c1000]
of note, I did verify that my BT5-KDE4-64(.iso)'s md5 matches the one in the .txt file, so I believe the download was good. I did not burn the ISO to disc, I am just using the ISO itself in VMware to create a virtual machine.
-- thanks backtrack team for everything you guys do! other then this issue with KDE, gnome has treated me perfect so far (both 32bit and 64!). I hope this KDE4 issue can get resolved, as I'd love to have a KDE4 64bit virtual machine up and running soon.
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PARAMOUNT - Funds have dried up for a joint well planned by the Long Beach Water Department and the City of Paramount.
The $6 million to $10 million project stalled last week because of uncertainty connected to redevelopment money used by Paramount to acquire land for the well, to be located at the northwest corner of Garfield Avenue and Jackson Street in Paramount.
Paramount bought the 0.3-acre parcel using $500,000 in redevelopment funds.
That purchase, and Paramount's plans to use up to $3million in redevelopment money to pay for its share of the well, are in legal limbo as officials scramble to liquidate assets of the now-defunct redevelopment agencies.
Last year, Gov. Jerry Brown ordered all 425 redevelopment agencies closed to save $1.7 billion for the state budget. Redevelopment agencies typically used property tax revenues to improve blighted neighborhoods.
The reversal has officials in both cities thinking about what might have been, particularly in Paramount.
The city would have used the shared well in conjunction with another one coming online to increase the amount of water it pumps itself from roughly 60 percent to about 90 percent, according to Chris Cash, Paramount Director of Public Works.
"It would have allowed us to keep our costs down, keep our water rates down," Cash said. "It really would have been money back in the pockets of our residents, had we been able to do the project."
The Long Beach Water Department, which was paying for the majority of the well, has placed on hold its plan to drill an $850,000 test well at the site next month.
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An acre-foot is a measurement that represents an acre of land covered by one foot of water - enough to supply two single family homes with water for a year.
For Long Beach, which owns 30 wells similar to the proposed Paramount well, the water potential at the site is less crucial.
"It's really a cost-saving opportunity for us," Wattier said.
Cash said the issues with the land, currently deeded to the defunct Paramount Redevelopment Agency, could be resolved in about six months.
The state could order Paramount to sell the property to the highest bidder, but even in a best-case scenario in which the land is given to the city to use for the well, it will have to find a new way to pay for its share of the construction.
"It's really unfortunate, because those funds were going to be used for a project that benefited both Long Beach and Paramount," Cash said.
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Optics/ Red Dot Sights
Optics are delicate by nature and can be damaged easily and without effort. Gun Parts USA wants to make sure all our customers receive a new, trouble free optic which is why we strictly enforce a no return policy on electronic items and optics. No returns or exchanges allowed on Eotech products or any electronic and/ or optic. Rest assured that as our customer you will NOT receive an item that may in some way be damaged by another customer. We cannot ensure a products integrity once it has left our facility and will not sell an item that may have been compromised, dropped or damaged to another customer. Should a problem arise with your product consult the manufacturers warranty, if provided by the manufacturer.
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