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Oscar de la Renta Fall 2013
As the audience surged to congratulate Oscar de la Renta on his fall collection, that exhilarating moment at a show when there doesn't seem to be quite enough air or space in the room, Diane von Furstenberg's appraisal of what we'd just seen rang clear and true. "It was," said DVF, "a beautiful conversation." She's referring, of course, to the dialogue between de la Renta and John Galliano, which has been going on since the latter took studio space in the former's midtown atelier some time ago. Whatever they fell to talking about was clearly stimulating; this was an elegant collection that fused rigor and romanticism with a flourish and was a powerful reminder of what each designer does so brilliantly, which is to say, cut and construct like nobody's business. We'll get to the clothes in a minute, but in the meantime, another thought struck about this working arrangement—the reminder of what a gentleman Oscar de la Renta is. In an industry that nowadays can seem just a little too cutthroat and fast to forget in its surge to satisfy its global ambitions, de la Renta's simple yet generous gesture to Galliano—extending the offer to come help, and start to work again—feels very real and human-scaled. On that count, bravo Oscar.
And as for the clothes. . . . The show opened with a strong statement on the art of construction. We've seen plenty of that these past few days, clothes cleverly—sometimes too cleverly—worked and worked and worked, with all manner of tricks built in. There were none here. Instead, a powerful opening group of coats and suits, in black, teal, and aubergine, which relied solely on the expert manipulation of silhouette and fabric. That meant bustle-like volumes worked into the hips of coats that had been strictly belted (with alligator pelts!) or the addition of a cyclone-like swirl of fabric at the collars of jackets, some in wool, others in leather; all of these were teamed with lean, lean, lean skirts to the mid calf, cloches with raised crowns, and slouchy gloves, in colored leather or silk tulle, the latter a rather Galliano-esque whimsy.
From here, the collection moved into experimentation with a toile print, blowing it up, say, across a full skirt in teal and ivory, or rendering it as gold bullion embroidery over a fox-trimmed black leather coat. And to close, a series of fishtail columnar evening dresses, not to mention two full-blown beaded ball dresses, which sang joyfully with intense color—citrine, mulberry, shocking pink. All classic and classically gorgeous Oscar, but with hair and makeup—heavily kohled eyes, Ophelia-in-the-rushes hair—that was distinctly Galliano. Still, in the end, this isn't a game of spot-the-presence-of-another-designer. If his postshow glow was anything to go by, de la Renta looked like the whole thing had been an absolute riot, and Galliano, who has maintained a zero profile throughout the process, gets to make a welcome return to the fold. Bravo, again, Oscar, and bravo, too, John.


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Im not sure if this gonna help you but when I had problems like that it solved when I typed in to shell "reset"
I've installed BT-4 final to hdd in a dual-boot with XP SP/3 successfully! Have a dual boot menu, etc...
Problem is though, my keyboard. I believe I selected the correct regional settings during the install, U.S., etc, but my keyboard isn't acting right. When I press a I get a q, and when I use shift-2 to get @, I get 2. There are other differences, also. I have searched the forums and googled, but I can't find the settings to change the keyboard to the layout I need. Somebody help please, Thanks, I don't want to have to get another keyboard.
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Im not sure if this gonna help you but when I had problems like that it solved when I typed in to shell "reset"
From the command line: setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us (where -model pc104 is whatever keyboard you are using)
From KDE GUI you can mess with your keyboard layout under Settings>Regional & Accessibility>Keyboad Layout or you can <right-click> the little flag icon in systray and change/configure your keyboard.
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The flag at the bottom, I'm on it now. Lovin' it severely. Probably for another thread but, is it possible to add open office, and maybe firefox 3.5? If not cool. Sorry, but I haven't tried the coding, I'll change things around later and let you know. In the meantime, if you click on the flag, your regional settings change. I feel like such an IDIOT
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Through my wife [McCauley is married to singer/songwriter Vanessa Carlton].
Lottie finally came to the door, and McCauley saw the cleanup in progress.
McCauley may have married beneath her station, but Gordon-Levitt has obsessive fans.
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McCauley is fairly moderate in his views on biohacking, which he says means that he "offends everybody."
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Mr. Eastman often declared that no music was half so sweet to him as that of the inmates of this yard.
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If it swims, it flies. The Oceanaire has fresh fish—arctic char, Shetland Island trout, barracuda, red mullet, smoked sturgeon, thresher shark, blowfish—flown in from every conceivable global spot, including Iceland, the East Coast, New Zealand, Panama, South America and Hawaii. The menu is driven by freshness and reshuffles daily—even hourly—as the market dictates. Have your catch prepped the way you want: simply grilled, broiled, sautéed, steamed or fried. There's a raw bar jammed with marine-misted lobsters, crab, clams and shrimp; an oyster selection of Wellfleets from Massachusetts, Malpeques from Prince Edward Island and Kumamotos from Oregon, or whatever else can catch flight. No other Dallas restaurant does seafood as varied or as fresh or racy and unbridled. And so far it seems no one ever will.
Ultimately, the purpose of an appetizer is to whet, to arouse, to salivate. It's to kick-start the innards and make them receptive to the more weighty compositions to follow. Mansion Chef John Tesar's crab "scampi style" does this. Six ounces of king crab leg meat is torn from the shell in ropes, flecked with parsley and set in a pool of Riesling butter sauce with touches of garlic and shallot. Riesling creeps to the forefront, launching a fascinating interplay of focused minerality and torrents of fruity acid that seem to reach around the crab's sweet buttery richness, targeting the minerals a few layers deep in the soul of the meat. Here, bitterness kisses the front of the mouth before the butter slides the crab's rich sweetness across the palate. Then the acids clear away a little of that, and it becomes almost floral. All of this is framed in a steely mineral component that is strong in the wine but subtler in the crab. Hence, the complex flavors of the crab instantly become understandable. This is a laser beam of a dish. It is visceral. It has gobs of charisma. It is pure mouth joy.
You know Jimmy's sausage and meatballs (and mortadella and prosciutto) are the stuff of legend, forcing chefs and gastronomes (why does foodie sound like a term for someone with a sippy-cup fetish?) alike to knuckle under its culinary weight in devoted reverence. You also know the wine selection is the best ever brought forth from the entirety of the boot, flowing from Veneto, Compania, Tuscany, Piedmont, Friuli, Sicily, Sardinia, Trentino Alto Adige, Basilicata, Umbria and Marche. Jimmy's even stocks the wines from Avellino bottled by Riccardi's Italian Dining owners Anita and Gaetano Ricardi. But what you may not know is that Jimmy's now has a back room—borne of reconstruction after the devastating 2004 fire that nearly destroyed its circa 1920s building—where wine dinners and wine flights will be launched and indulged and disabused, some hosted by Italian wine experts such as Andrea Cecchi of the Chianti producer Cecchi. More to follow. More to flow. Much to love.
For a third of a century John's Café on Greenville Avenue was one of those chipped mug of coffee places you could go on a Sunday morning and get your feet planted squarely back on planet Earth for the week to come. Then two years ago they deep-sixed it for a bank. Story of our life. But now John's is back from the grave, this time deeper on Greenville, almost at the corner of Ross, and many of the old familiar faces are gathering again for coffee, Greek salad and one of the best big burgers in town. The new location hits it just right, clean and plain, lean and mean—the way Old East Dallas likes it.
There are plenty of bars where you can grab a decent bite in Dallas—Lee Harvey's, the Meridian Room and the Lakewood Landing all come to mind—but the Old Monk is the only one we frequent even when we're not drinking. From the sizable burgers to the awesome fish and chips, everything on the menu is tasty, and it's all better with a side of the best skinny fries in town. And don't forget your vegetarian friends, who'll surely love the renowned (in our world at least) vegetarian Reuben. You'll find us on the large patio, a must in our book since most of Dallas' bar scene still hasn't come around to the idea that food tastes a lot better when it's not accompanied by the smell of cigarettes.
Years ago Sonny Bryan's got rolled out into 10 different Dallas-area locations, and they're all great, but the original on Inwood is proof that part of the barbecue is the shack. Since 1910—that's when Sonny Bryan started peddling his incomparable ribs and brisket from a tumbledown dive near Parkland Hospital—a whole lot of smoke and flavor must have gotten rubbed into the joint's well-worn benches and little school desks. It helps that you can see people back behind the counter pulling those big racks of ribs out of the smoker: You know for sure it's not coming down here quick-frozen from New Jersey. This is real-deal Dallas, the old-fashioned way, and every bite a treat for sure.


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Since they put the linky-thingy up early this week, and I'm up significantly later than usual, I figured I'd go ahead and throw up a picture I shot of Jayci's little hands with her sippy cup playing outside today. And can I just say how ecstatic I was to see the sun so much this weekend? My mood was infinitely better. Infinitely.
Although I am protesting the fact that this looks like a little kid hand and not a baby hand. Slow down time. Please. Pretty please?
**Edited to add: I swear I added my link last night and was #24 or something . . . and now I cant find mine on there at all, so I'm re-linking up. Maybe I've been having dreams about I Heart Faces, which would be a little pathetic.
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The great way is not difficultfor those who have no preferences.When love and hate are both absent everything becomes clear and undisguised.Make the smallest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart.If you wish to see the truththen hold no opinion for or against..The struggle of what one likes and what one dislikesis the disease of the mind.
We will be entering the beautiful world of a Zen master's no-mind. Sosan is the third Zen patriarch. Nothing much is known about him - this is as it should be, because history records only violence. History does not record silence, it cannot record it. All records are of disturbance. Whenever someone becomes really silent, he disappears from all records, he is no longer a part of our madness. So it is as it should be.
Sosan remained a wandering monk his whole life. He never stayed anywhere; he was always passing, going, moving. He was a river; he was not a pond, static. He was a constant movement. That is the meaning of Buddha's wanderers: not only in the outside world but in the inside world also they should be homeless - because whenever you make a home you become attached to it. They should remain rootless; there is no home for them except this whole universe.
Even when it was recognized that Sosan had become enlightened, he continued his old beggar's way. And nothing was special about him. He was an ordinary man, the man of Tao.
One thing I would like to say, and you have to remember it: Zen is a crossbreeding. And just as more beautiful flowers can come out of crossbreeding, and more beautiful children are born out of crossbreeding, the same has happened with Zen.
Zen is a crossbreeding between Buddha's thought and Lao Tzu's thought. It is a great meeting, the greatest that ever took place. That's why Zen is more beautiful than Buddha's thought and more beautiful than Lao Tzu's thought. It is a rare flowering of the highest peaks and the meeting of those peaks. Zen is neither Buddhist nor Taoist, but it carries both within it.
India is a little too serious about religion - a long past, a long weight on the mind of India, and religion has become serious. Lao Tzu remained a laughingstock: Lao Tzu is known as the old fool. He is not serious at all; you cannot find a more non-serious man.
Then Buddha's thought and Lao Tzu's thought met, India and China met, and Zen was born. And this Sosan was just near the original source when Zen was coming out of the womb. He carries the fundamental.
His biography is not relevant at all, because whenever a man becomes enlightened he has no biography. He is no longer the form, so when he was born and when he died are irrelevant facts. That's why in the East we have never bothered about biographies, historical facts. That obsession has never been here. That obsession has now come from the West; then people become more interested in irrelevant things. When a Sosan is born, what difference does it make - this year or that? When he dies, how is it important?


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Suicide Bomber Strike in Australia
Muslim suicide bombers in Oz are set to begin a three-day strike on Monday in a dispute over the number of virgins they are entitled to in the afterlife.
Emergency talks with Al Qaeda have so far failed to produce an agreement. The unrest began last Tuesday when Al Qaeda announced that the number of virgins a suicide bomber would receive after his death will be cut by 25% this April, from 72 to only 54.
The rationale for the cut was the increase in recent years of the number of suicide bombings and a subsequent shortage of virgins in the afterlife.
The suicide bombers' union, the Brisbane Organization of Occupational Martyrs (or B.O.O.M.) responded with a statement that this was unacceptable to its members and immediately balloted for strike action. General Secretary Abdullah Amir told the press, "Our members are literally working themselves to death in the cause of Jihad. We don't ask for much in return but to be treated like this is like a kick in the teeth. Speaking from his shed in Ipswich in the West Queensland in which he currently resides,
Al Qaeda chief and ex thanks to executive Osama bin Laden explained, "We sympathize with our workers' concerns but Al Qaeda is simply not in a position to meet their demands.
They are simply not accepting the realities of modern-day Jihad in a competitive marketplace. "Thanks to Western depravity, there is now a chronic shortage of virgins in the afterlife. It's a straight choice between reducing expenditure and laying people off.
I don't like cutting wages but I'd hate to have to tell 3000 of my staff that they won't be able to blow themselves up."
Spokespersons for the union in the North east of Iowa, California, Michigen , Tennesse and the entire Australian continent stated that the strike would not affect their operations as
"There are no virgins in our areas anyway".
Apparently the drop in the number of suicide bombings has been put down to the emergence of the Scottish singing star, Susan Boyle - now that Muslims know what a virgin looks like that they are not so keen on going to paradise.
I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Wow. I take a small fishing trip for a couple of days and it seems like the whole world starts to fall apart...
For starters, I am a VERY avid snowmobiler. I log 2000+ miles yearly, with almost all of it starting within 50 miles or so of home (in the 2003-2004 winter I put my sled on a trailer twice - all other riding was done from home).
I've been to Yellowstone in the winter (I believe it was in Feb 2001). We rented sleds from a rental place there, spent one day in the park and then one day on other area trails outside of the park.
First, I would hate to be the guy or gal collecting money at the park entrance. No one can underestimate the engine fumes that are present there. It's enough to make one sick.
Once you leave the booth however, everyone is spread out a lot more, and you get back to enjoying the fresh air. Sure, snowmobiles pollute the air, but so do cars and trucks. You don't see Yellowstone banning automobiles, do you? There are also Federal regulations in the works to force snowmobile manufacturers to lower emissions. Same deal with automobiles, just different regulations. Snowmobile manufacturers are already working to lower emissions - there are a number of four stroke machines on the market now. Ski-doo has a semi-direct injection engine that is supposed to be lower on emissions.
I'm sure the manufacturers are fighting the new regulations - you don't see Chevrolet or Ford saying "Please force us to have lower emissions," do you? No - auto makers fight the new regs the same way. It affects everyone's bottom line - $$.
To keep this on topic:
ATVs and snowmobiles ARE regulated. Not identical to geocaching, but you can't expect them to be. ATVs are banned in a LOT of areas. MN is more agressive about this than other states like WI, and is starting to ease up some as ATVers are becoming more organized as a group. Snowmobilers are also regulated. In addition to paying a state user fee (currently $15/year, with proposals to raise it), they are not allowed 'anywhere they fit'). Go to your local state park, take a trail map, point to a random trail, and ask the park manager if you can take your ATV or snowmobile down there.
Parks regulate a lot of things, not just geocaching.
A snowcoach is basically an enclosed vehicle with skis and a track. Think of a cross between a van and a snowmobile.
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Park studies emissions
The Ambient Air Quality Standard for Yellowstone has NEVER been violated because of snowmobile emissions.
The Montana DEQ study found that the new model snowmobiles tested in
2001 performed significantly better than older model snowmobiles studied in 1997
A study done by Central Michigan University also found significant snowmobile emission reductions with the use of newer technologies.
Results from the Southwest Research Institute (SwRI) testing of newly available production model 4-stroke and older 2-stroke snowmobiles using both gas and ethanol mixed fuels demonstrated new technology snowmobile, substantially reduced emissions.
Emissions from actual snowcoaches in operation were also tested. The SwRI studied snowcoach emissions of the newest snowcoaches.
The study found the snowcoaches produce substantially more emissions than snowmobiles.
Park Compares summer emissions to winter emissions
One additional study looked at air quality and emissions and concluded that in the year 2000:
(1) the emissions from snowcoaches and the older technology snowmobiles constitute a small fraction of the year-around mobile emissions in the Parks, (2) the summer Recreational Vehicles (RVs) alone emit more than eight times more Nitrous Oxides (NOx) than the snowcoaches and the older technology snowmobiles combined, and (3) snowcoaches and the older technology snowmobiles accounted for less than 6% of the particulate matter emitted in the Parks from mobiles sources.
Groomed Roads in Park
Roads are groomed in the Parks because grooming is necessary for all motorized access into the Parks. Recreational snowmobiles, Park Service snowmobiles, and snowcoaches cannot travel on ungroomed surfaces. Since snowmobiles are allowed only on the groomed road surface,
snowmobilers have access to less than 1% of Yellowstone Park
, which is 2.2 million acres - or half the size of the state of Connecticut.
A poll by Southwest Research showed that nearly
80 percent of the Americans supported the use of snowmobiles in national parks while only 11 percent said they supported the decision prohibiting snowmobile access
. A USA Today poll of 76,971 readers showed that
78 percent believe vehicles such as snowmobiles should not be banned from national parks
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The following are my comments---
While I am more than willing to agree that in the past (and by past, I mean over 5 years ago) there were numerous problems with snowmobiles in Yellowstone, the snowmobile groups were never allowed to correct anything or even notified that there was a problem before the initial bans were put in place.
Saying that the NPS staff had to wear masks while working at Yellowstone is like saying that the federal government condoned slavery. In both cases it may have been true at one time, but not anymore.
And in actuality, all 4 snowmobile manufacturers took it apon themselves to come up with cleaner burning snowmobiles before any government mandates were put in place. 3 of the companies have very legitamate 4 stroke motors, and another has cleaned up emmisions with a fuel injected 2 stroke to levels nearly of those 4 strokes. And all have surpassed the requirements the government mandated for year 2012.
And if someone could mandate only synthetic oil for the 2 stroke engines, you could cut snowmobile polution by about 70%. I will not use an petroleum based oils for any of my 2 stroke motors.
I am having troubling finding the environmentalist's study that claimed something like each snowmobile put a ton of pollution a year into the air. If you sit down and do the math there is now way that could be possible. The average snowmobile puts on about 1000 miles a year. At approximately 10 - 15 miles per gallon lets go with 100 gallon of gas used. At 6 pounds per gallon, how can you have 2000 pounds of pollution from 600 pounds of gas? I am just attempting to show you that most of these studies didn't do themselves and good by skewing the facts as much as they did.
I like to use a little common sense and a wary eye when reading most news reports and studies. You can make any outcome work to your advantage, you just have to know how to twist the data.
an avid snowmobiler, bicycler, kayaker, geocacher, hiker, camper, driveabigpickuptrucker, ect, ect, ect. Why can't we all just get along???
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Last edited by -=Hot|Ice=-; 11-29-2012 at 08:56 PM.
It is possible to induce oversteer (hopefully MILD overteer ) in a mid engine car by trail braking. By "trailing" off the brakes as the car corners the car can be rotated. This technique is called tail brake rotation and requires practice in a controlled environment where the consequences of the inevitable spins that you will have while learning will not be catestrophic.
Trail Braking
The trail braking technique is an advanced braking technique that racing drivers use to go faster through corners. Instead of completing the braking sequence before the corner, you brake later and combine the last bit of braking with the turning-in part.
When turning into the corner while braking, the weight is still resting on the front tires. This increases front grip and decreases rear grip, so that you can induce a little more rear slip angle than front slip angle. (oversteer)
This braking technique has several advantages:
You can brake later.
Normally youd already be going steady on the throttle, but since you are still on the brakes front to rear weight balance is easier to adjust.
Due to braking, the weight shifts forward so front grip increases, allowing you to turn harder into the corner.
Rather than relying on the steering you can brake your way into the corner. You rotate the back-end of the car (oversteer) so that you will have to steer less when going in, and coming out of the corner.
Trail braking requires very precise brake balance control and is definitely not a braking technique for the novice. Due to the high speed its really dangerous to practice. Mistakes will immediately be punished, usually with serious consequences.
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Actually a fade brake or standard pop clutch action will loosen any rear end for any car.
Why not use the same magazine for the two cars? Why post the fastest time for the 335 and slowest for the SS (lol the SS is still faster after 0-60 on its WORST test) ?
They are NOT dead even. You can chose to ignore facts but it won't change them. I don't like the Camaro SS at all but it is a much faster vehicle then the F30 335 whether you like it or not.
Camaro SS
0-60 4.6 sec
1/4 mile 13.0 @ 111 mph
0-130 18.0 sec
BMW 335i (F30)
0-60 5.3 sec
1/4 mile 13.8 @ 103 mph
0-60 4.8 secs
1/4 mile 13.6 @ 106 mph
0-130 20.7 secs
Lightning lap times:
Camaro SS - 3:09.5
BMW 135i - 3:13.7
2007 BMW 335i Coupe (N54 which is faster than the N55 F30) - 3:10.5
Cadillac CTS-V - 3:04.0
Oh and Cobalt SS - 3:13.5
2013 Camaro SS 1LE
0-60 4.3 secs
1/4 mile 12.7 @ 111 mph
2012 F30 335i
0-60 4.7 secs
1/4 mile 13.3 @ 103.9 mph
2010 E90 BMW 335 (did not see a test for the F30)
0-60 5.2 secs
1/4 mile 13.4 @ 103.5
2010 Camaro SS
0-60 5.1 secs
1/4 mile 13.1 @ 110.4
While you can obtain a slightly different 0-60 time depending on traction, tires used, weather conditions, driver skill and so on, one thing will almost always stay very consistent which is the trap speed. It is a good indication of power and there is significant difference between the two vehicles. So you can spin it however you want in favor of the 335 but the facts are that the SS is a much quicker vehicle.
Last edited by LegendsNeverDie; 11-30-2012 at 06:13 AM.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I drove up from SE FL to PA yesterday on I-95 N. I made a decent time driving straight through and going 1,126 miles in 16 hours and 45 minutes in my Tahoe. The trip is usually very boring with mostly trucks, and the elderly driving mobile homes, Toyotas, Cadillacs and small SUVs. This trip however, I saw some things on the road that were more interesting.
There must be a car show somewhere this weekend as I passed numerous exotic car carrier trucks like Reliable and etc., and many show cars in tow like hot rods, and I saw a 427 Cobra in blue with white racing stripes being towed by a matching pick up truck.
I stopped at a rest stop in S. Carolina, and while taking my dog for a walk, I saw an Acura NSX parked next to a Ferrari Testarossa. Both owners were sleeping in their front seats so I didn't have the opportunity to closely check out their cars. I have not seen an NSX on the road in years.
I saw four Audi car carriers loaded with sedans heading north from Florida. I wonder what port they enter down there to deliver as far north as S. Caolina? I love how each car has a white car cover on them with Audi logos.
I saw two BMW car carriers loaded with SUVs in S. Caolina. They only had the white shrink wrap on the top of the new vehicles. I would not want the front SUV that had 1/3rd of it's rear end hanging off over the truck cab and begging for road debris.
From Georgia through N Carolina, I saw 2 newer 7 Series BMWs with Canadian tags, A Porsche Panamera, 4 Porsche Carreras including 2 cabriolets, 2 Corvettes, 3 F30 sedans (two driven by older women and one by a college aged female), 5-6 E90 BMWs, and an E46 M3 convertible in Georgia driven by an attractive women appearing to be in her mid 40's and driving like she owned the road (I immediately fell in love!)
Then I'm in S. Carolina with my cruise set at 77 MPH in a 70 MPH speed zone and passing a truck. I look in my rear view mirror and I see a car snaking between cars and going in excess of 100 MPH. I'm about 2/3rds passed the truck and he's on my rear and flashing his high beams. I finish passing and go into the right lane and he speeds by. It was a black Cadillac CTS coupe (I don't think it was a CTS-V) driven by a guy looking to be about 30. Later, I'm entering Virginia and see flashing police lights up the road. I pass and see they had nailed the Cadillac and had the driver facing his car with his hands on the hood. I laughed my ass off.
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Last edited by beden1; 11-30-2012 at 09:05 AM.
Yeah if you speed like that in the Old Dominion, you're not going to have a good time.
Probably had a radar detector too.
-- on the Camaro SS point. Yeah it pulls like crazy- even with the automatic. I cannot imagine what a ZL1 would be like to drive. But- its like driving in a cave. And the trunk was a joke. And the automatic wasn't nearly as nice as the sport auto in the 335i.
Not sure many people are cross shopping Camaro SS vs BMW 335's, well other than me. But I'm weird like that.
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"Our mere automatic 2012 335i, down a turbo and supposedly 20 horsepower and 32 lb-ft, reached 60 mph in 4.7 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.3 sec at 103.9 mph. That's right on pace with a Camaro SS, assuming it's driven well."
Your 1LE is a performance package btw. Spend more time actually driving the cars then reading about them you might know the Camaro to get those times has all traction aids turned off which on the street most drivers will spin like crazy. Unlike the 335i which will almost dead hook. The better driver will win the race. The cars are almost dead even even with the crappy BMW run flats.
Keep making smiley faces on your posts it seems to be what your good at.
Last edited by Buildbright; 11-30-2012 at 04:14 PM.
F30 328i Alpine White/coral red Msport 6MT, HK, Xenons, Msport brakes, black grills and side sills, performance exhaust
As Chris90 indicated earlier, after several reviews complained about the ATS 2.0T manual being notchy, and not able to reach 60 in second gear, GM stopped delivery of all the 2.0T for fixes. Based on the initial user review after the fixes, it appears the fixes were for real.
It will be interesting to see if MT will try to do another comparo, since it was MT reported the news that GM stopped all 2.0T shipment for the fix. Sounded to me GM is very serious about this.
We are staying at the Boca Raton Resort and Club this month. The valets tend to park the fanciest cars in front of the main entrance. Tonight there were two Bentley Continentals (1 coupe 1 convertible) a Ferrari California Convertible, a Maserati GT Convertible, 2 S Class Mercedes, an E93 (328i) and a Cadillac CTS.
Haven't seen either an F30 or an ATS yet.
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The problem with this comparo is it lacks objectivity. I have not driven the ATS yet but there is nothing special about the 3.6l engine. There are only two top of the line engines that matter in this class, the N55 and the Audi S4. Not necessarily because of the amount of power but the tq and the broad range in which it's available. In my X5, which is almost 5000lbs, the N55 can do 80mph at less than 2000 rpm and if I punch it responds in an instant, thanks to the 8 speed ZF transmission, same as the F30. Lets not forget that the transmission in the ATS has been determined to be inferior to the ZF transmission.
What I also find odd is the placement of the c350 above the f30, something I have never seen before.
I still have a G 37, looking to get a 335i so I would be the target audience for the ATS, after all I can save a bit by getting the ATS. However I would rather wait for the next G37 than get the ATS. After having driven all offerings of the 335i and the S4, it's tough to pass these two up.
Last edited by g37to335i; 11-30-2012 at 08:13 PM.
While procrastinating with some work stuff, I came across a review by this same Jonny Lieberman comparing the C250 to the 328i that reduces his credibility quite a bit. Jump to 4:15 of the video where he talks about how BMW "smartly stuck with hydraulic assist" for the steering of the 2012 model. Did I miss something? Did the switch occur in 2013? Was there some wrong info out there for a while?
If several reviews can be found that put the C350 ahead of the 3er then I will stand corrected and I will consider this review to be credible, until then this to me is an advertisement. FYI this guy,Lieberman, LUVs the CTS-V
Last edited by g37to335i; 11-30-2012 at 08:38 PM.
Speaking of 6spd vs. 8spd, I can't say yet whether 8spd is definitely superior than 6spd. I drive in manual mode most of the time, I don't know if 8spd will be too busy in manual mode. Next time when I do another comparison test drive, will try to see how manual shifting with the 8spd feels.
One thing I don't quite like the design of the new auto shifter in BMW, it is for you to look at, not to play with.
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I have read so many articles that rave about how the ATS throttle blips on down shifts, we have had this in the G37 and G35 since 2007. When you read about it it's as if this is the first time it's been applied in this segment. Color me unimpressed
Last edited by g37to335i; 12-01-2012 at 04:28 AM.
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- J.C. Watts Jr.
ATS is getting an 8 spd auto next year, supposedly.
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Getting back to the original review from MT. First of all any guy that gets excited because of a red seat belt is disqualified.
Second not one thing was mentioned on the automatic transmission. The reason I say this is because I had a 2009 C350 AMG package and yes I understand they engine is a lot more powerful but the 7-speed transmission is basically the same. That transmission when compared to the 8-speed BMW is TRASH. Doesn't shift as fast, searches on down sifting when pushed hard, bogus down on when asked by the driver for immediate speed. Again this guy not mentioning one thing about the transmission tells me he is an idiot. Notice I am not saying one thing about the ATS since I have never driven the car
Also lets talk about entire space. The C350 have very little when compared to the BMW, and another thing a about this moron, if you are going to try and compare an AMG styled C350 you should be comparing it to a M-packaged 335i. And in terms of package it similarly to a Mercedes and you will see you are within a couple of thousand of it.
Now driving, for my money my 2013 335i Sport with the adaptive package is the best 4 door sedan I have ever owned. On sport setting you have just the right amount of road feel, totally controllable, super fun to drive and FAST while being comfortable at the same time. Notice this guy starts out with the 335i saying that its such a great car to drive and then comes back with its vague, something artificial etc. Sorry its either a great car to drive or it sucks dude, it can't be both. That wish washy statement along should tell you this guy should tend a 7-11 store and leave the driving critic to people that know something about cars.
Last statement I want to make here is the MT. This transmission can't be the same that I had in my 2007 328i. Its incredibly direct, light, so easy to use its almost like having a automatic. The only other MT transmission I have driven that compares to this one is the 2010 Boxster S and at the time I thought everyone should just copy their MT transmissions. Who know maybe BMW did.
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and of course there was no F30 in 2010, I know that, I posted the E90 results since both cars are N55 and I could not find one for the F30 from that magazine.
Try again.
Last edited by LegendsNeverDie; 12-01-2012 at 06:56 AM.
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FPGA simulated annealing accelerator, patent No. 8,296,120, invented by Jonathan D. Phillips of Logan, and Aravind Dasu of Providence, assigned to Utah State University of Logan.
Content analysis and correlation, patent No. 8,296,297, invented by Tammy Green of Provo, Stephen R. Carter of Spanish Fork, and Scott Alan Isaacson of Kamuela, Hawaii, assigned to Novell Inc. of Provo.
Apparatus, System, And Method For Managing Data From A Requesting Device With An Empty Data Token Directive, patent No. 8,296,337, invented by David Flynn of Sandy, Jonathan Thatcher of Lehi, and Michael Zappe of Wheat Ridge, Colo., assigned to Fusion-io Inc. of Salt Lake City.
Network address allocation using a user identity, patent No. 8,296,403, invented by Prasanth Jose of Kerala, India, Kalyanasundaram Subramanivan of Karnataka, India, and Karthik Ramamoorthy of Uttar Pradesh, India, assigned to Novell Inc. of Provo.
Method, graphical interface and computer-readable medium for generating a preview of a reformatted preview segment, patent No. 8,296,649, invented by Randon Morford of Lehi, Matthew D. Cupal of Providence, Joseph Romriell of Alpine, Mitchell Holyoak of West Jordan, and Carlo Johannes Bos of West Jordan, assigned to Sorenson Media, Inc. of Salt Lake City.
System and method for read-ahead enhancements, patent No. 8,296,678, invented by Gregory J. Boss of American Fork, Rick A. Hamilton, II of Charlottesville, Va., Kevin C. McConnell of Austin, Texas, and James W. Seaman of Falls Church, Va., assigned to International Business Machines Corp. of Armonk, N.Y.
Agent-based remote function execution, patent No. 8,296,786, invented by Andrew E. Faust of West Jordan, and Michael E. Tabet of Draper, assigned to Microsoft Corp. of Redmond, Wash.
Polarization-modulated tip enhanced optical microscope, patent No. 8,296,861, invented by Jordan M. Gerton of Salt Lake City, assigned to University of Utah Research Foundation of Salt Lake City.
Control of data transmission between a remote monitoring unit and a central unit, patent No. RE43,767, invented by Philip N. Eggers of Satl Lake City, and Lon M. Severe of San Diego, Calif., assigned to CardioNet Inc. of Conshohocken, Pa.
Employee stock option appreciation rights securities auction process, patent No. RE43,769, invented by William David Hemingway of Salt Lake City, James G. Livingston of Alpine, Evan Martin Hill of Sandy, Rick Davis Burtenshaw of Cottonwood Heights, Gary Bernard Hansen of Salt Lake City, Eric John Pehrson of Lehi, Larry Ross Denham of Farmington, Ronald C. Hanks of Salt Lake City, James Reed Cooper of Centerville, James Brady Palmer of Riverton, Robert Lynn Bartleson of North Salt Lake, Jonathan Eric Bacon of Bountiful, Shelene Brown of Centerville, Richard J. Sullivan of Littleton, Colo., Nick Robert Watne of Murray, Henry Conrad Wurts of Salt Lake City, Doyle L. Arnold of Salt Lake City, and Thomas E. Laursen of Park City, assigned to Zions Bancorp of Salt Lake City.
Everett Robinson, an attorney registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, compiles this list weekly for The Salt Lake Tribune. Robinson can be reached at 801-649-5858. For more patents, see the Money page at sltrib.com, go to Sections on the left-hand side and click Patents.


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Smart tests of smartphones with DxOMark MobileTuesday October 09 2012
We are incredibly pleased to announce the launch of smartphone and tablet measurement results, thanks to a set of innovative, dedicated testing protocols. Designed as a tool for experts, press and end-users, DxOMark Mobile has already been adopted by DPReview on its upcoming DPReview Connect website.
2012, the year when everything changes?
Cameras are frequently at the top of consumers' lists of most desired cellphone features. That's no surprise, considering that a growing number of people prefer snapping photographs using their mobile phones. And in fact, more than one quarter of all photos taken in 2011 were captured by a cameraphone — and we are expecting that mobile photos will surpass DSC photos this year.
Yet despite the fast-increasing use of smartphones and other camera-equipped mobile devices, there are few reliable resources to help consumers analyze and compare the image and sensor quality of these products. Although there are plenty of websites with great reviews about mobiles, very few emphasize the photographic capabilities of these little devices. Some have widgets for comparing scenes shot with different smartphones, others include some subjective comparisons between these high-tech gadgets, but no website uses repeatable and industry-grade testing methodologies to analyze the true image quality of mobiles…
Until now!
Over the years, photographers and the camera industry have come to rely on DxO Labs for our original and reliable RAW-based image quality database and scoring system– a great tool for objectively comparing different lens and camera models. With DxOMark Mobile, we want to convey these same benefits to photography enthusiasts who are now taking more and more pictures with their pocket connected gadgets.
Inside DxOMark Mobile testing technology
DxO Labs, the leading imaging science corporation sponsoring DxOMark, has been accompanying the industry for a decade to help overcome mobile-specific new challenges to better image quality. Simply put, DxO's scientists have spent countless hours laboring over and dissecting these tiny devices, learning about their intricacies, and actively using and testing them in real-world environments and conditions. This long experience has helped us to design a new reliable methodology for evaluating mobile camera image quality.
DxOMark Mobile testing is in fact similar to the company's current procedures for testing lenses and cameras. Each product goes through DxO Labs rigorous scientific, independent, and methodical protocols that analyze an image's color, contrast, details, sharpness, noise, shading, and distortion. For some measurements, such as exposure, contrast, color fidelity and white balance, additional perceptual analyses are used: DxOMark experts take photos under conditions that cellphone users find in the real world, such as taking indoor portraits with mixed lighting and different light intensities. These perceptual analyses require DxO technicians to photograph more than 400 pictures and shoot about 20 videos for a single product evaluation to further expose a mobile camera's limits and flaws.
Moving ahead: Partnering with the press
To better share our image quality knowledge with the broader public, we have decided to team up with press. DPReview, the internet's premier digital photography news and review website, is the first to integrate our measurements into their reviews for such devices as the iPhone 5, the Samsung Galaxy SIII, and the Nokia 808 PureView on their new mobile-dedicated DPReview Connect website.
New mobile camera section on DxOMark
We will be regularly publishing our test results for mobile cameras in a dedicated section of dxomark.com website. We will analyze the latest smartphones and digital tablets on the market market from every angle! We will publish the first reviews in the next few weeks.
As DxOMark Mobile moves ahead, we are open to suggestions and feedback to help us continue building the most reliable and consistent tool for evaluating mobile phone and tablet cameras!


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Meningitis is a bacterial infection of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord (meninges).
The most common causes of meningitis are viral infections that usually get better without treatment. However, bacterial meningitis infections are extremely serious, and may result in death or brain damage, even if treated.
Meningitis may also be caused by:
Most viral meningitis is due to enteroviruses, which are viruses that also can cause intestinal illness.
Many other types of viruses can cause meningitis.
Viral meningitis occurs more often than bacterial meningitis, and is milder. It usually occurs in the late summer and early fall. It most often affects children and adults under age 30.
Bacteria meningitis is an emergency. You will need immediate treatment in a hospital. Symptoms usually come on quickly, and may include:
Other symptoms that can occur with this disease:
Meningitis is an important cause of fever in children and newborns.
You cannot tell if you have bacterial or viral meningitis by how they feel. Your health care provider must do this. Seek prompt attention if you have symptoms of meningitis.
The doctor or nurse will examine you. This may show:
If the health care provider thinks you have meningitis, a lumbar puncture (spinal tap) should be done to remove a sample of spinal fluid (cerebrospinal fluid, or CSF) for testing.
Other tests that may be done include:
Antibiotics are used to treat bacterial meningitis. The specific type depends on which bacteria is causing the infection. Antibiotics do not treat viral meningitis.
Antiviral medicine may be given to those with herpes meningitis.
Other treatments will include:
Early diagnosis and treatment of bacterial meningitis is essential to prevent permanent neurological damage. Viral meningitis is usually not serious, and symptoms should disappear within 2 weeks with no lasting complications.
If you think that you or your child has symptoms of meningitis, get emergency medical help immediately. Early treatment is key to a good outcome.
Certain vaccines can help prevent some types of meningitis.
Household members and others in close contact with people who have meningococcal meningitis should receive antibiotics to prevent becoming infected.
The meningococcal vaccination is recommended for:
Some communities hold vaccination campaigns after an outbreak of meningococcal meningitis.
Swartz MN. Meningitis: bacterial, viral, and other. In: Goldman L, Schafer AI, eds. Cecil Medicine. 24th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Saunders Elsevier; 2011:chap 360.
Tunkel AR, Van de Beek D, Scheld WM. Acute meningitis. In: Mandell GL, Bennett JE, Dolin R, eds. Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases. 7th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Elsevier Churchill Livingstone; 2009: chap 84.


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Hello all,
I have spent many hours so far pouring over the web trying to solve this issue.
I have a Asus Eee PC 1011CX
2gb Ram
Intel N2600 1.6ghz dual core
Intel GMA3600 video chip set
I downloaded and installed BT5R3 GNOME 32 bit and installed to a USB drive with unetbootin
When it boots up it comes up undefined video mode 317 and it gives me the option to pick a new resolution by hitting enter. When i do i can pick the option 9 for 800x600x32 VESA
When i do this it boots up fine from the usb and works great. I ran the install and did a full clean install to the hard drive. This also went without any errors.
However, when i reboot i no longer get the option to pick the video resolution. it will go to the Ubuntu 10.04 screen with the 4 dots, then very quickly (to fast to see) red text will flash in the middle of the screen and it goes blank.
The back light is fine, there's no courser just a blank screen.
Now since i can get it work off the usb by picking the right video mode i really just need to know how to get the hard drive install to either allow me to do that or to hard code it.
So far I've changed the grub with this
ran update-grub after mounting with this
# Mount root partition:
sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt # /dev/sdXY is your root partition, e.g. /dev/sda1
# If you have a separate boot partition you'll need to mount it also:
sudo mount /dev/sdYY /mnt/boot
# Mount your virtual filesystems:
for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
# Chroot
sudo chroot /mnt
didnt work
i tried
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text splash nomodeset vga=791"
and the Intel i915 one
neither worked either
long story short it works fine when i can pick that 800x600x32 setting so i need to fig out what the boot option is setting from the USB stick and hard code that or change it on the hard drive install
Any and all help would be much appreciated.
Solution here ;
I have also the problem, how ever, I dpkg -install the linux-image-3.4 .... cannot
I hope someone can show me how to, or I guess it is blocked change kernal with dpkg -install ?


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Mapping Out New Markets
To Madhu Viswanathan, understanding the 4 billion people who live in poverty and the potential they represent as consumers and entrepreneurs is all about life lessons first, business lessons second. That's because, as Viswanathan puts it: "Unless you understand the life circumstances of those living in subsistence, you cannot design quality products for them."
As a researcher who has spent almost a decade studying the implications of poverty and literacy on marketplace behavior, he's passionate about what can be done to make a difference. As an associate professor of business administration at Illinois, he's also encouraging that passion in his students through "Product and Market Development for Subsistence Marketplaces," a new two-semester course, co-taught by Ali Yassine, an assistant professor in industrial and enterprise systems engineering. The course focuses on business principles and product development that will serve the world's poor.
"We have to envision the kind of world we want to live in," says Viswanathan. "For me, that means conducting research, educating students, and developing curricula that has the potential to open people's minds and improve circumstances for those living in subsistence. For my students and the business community, I hope that means seizing the opportunity to lessen poverty and find sustainable solutions."
The View from the Bottom
Getting a handle on how businesses can meet the needs of subsistence markets means starting with a new frame of reference. "The way I see it," says Viswanathan, "the economists are like the planes flying at 30,000 feet. My interests have always been at ground level." His micro-level approach is based on a bottomup understanding of market development that he's formulated through his work with low-literate, low-income consumers, and it's at the heart of the curriculum he and Yassine have developed for their course.
"The bottom-up approach begins with understanding how individuals live, how the buyers, sellers, and markets behave, how literacy and income impact their circumstances, and what it means to live in subsistence," explains Viswanathan.
Between the economists' top-down approach and Viswanathan's bottom-up approach is the research of C.K. Prahalad, a professor at the University of Michigan, and Stuart Hart, a Cornell University professor. Their work provided the intellectual impetus that Viswanathan believes is extremely valuable in its own right and yet complements the other two approaches. Plus, it has provided substantial exposure for the idea of developing the subsistence marketplace.
"Prahalad and Hart are leading management thinkers," he says. "They have brought intellectual attention to this topic in a way that no one else has been able to."
And that's why students in Viswanathan and Yassine's course study their work, a basic premise of which is understanding the value at the bottom of the pyramid. From a numbers perspective, the concept is simple and straightforward. The top of the pyramid consists of the nearly 100 million people with the highest incomes. At the bottom of the pyramid are the 4 billion people who live on less than $2 a day. Despite the differences in spending power, the sheer number of consumers represents significant market potential for businesses willing to think creatively. And, according to Viswanathan, those businesses that collaborate with the consumers and potential entrepreneurs at the bottom of the pyramid have an opportunity to make a difference as well as a profit.
Charting a Course
For Viswanathan, the opportunity to make a difference started by examining the behavior of low-literate consumers in the United States. His research eventually took him to India, where he interviewed buyers and sellers to learn how lowliterate, resource-poor, subsistence markets operate.
"I am really trying to understand the psychology—the life circumstances in subsistence that affect participation in the marketplace and the economic realm," he says. "As soon as I went there [India] and began my research, I started thinking in terms of 'Is there a give-back here?'"
That give-back came in the form of an educational consumer and entrepreneurial literacy program that was developed for people who cannot read or write—a program that has been offered on a small scale in urban and rural areas in south India. This emphasis on marketplace literacy complements other educational efforts, such as those that focus on microfinancing. Together, these efforts empower individuals to participate in the marketplace and engage in mutually beneficial exchanges. Another give-back is through the subsistence marketplace initiative aimed at developing and disseminating knowledge about these issues.
The goals are straightforward: create knowledge about these marketplaces, stimulate research on the topic, and give back to the people with affordable, quality products and direct marketplace literacy education. But something was missing: teaching. Encouragement from College of Business Dean Avijit Ghosh led to the conception of the new "Product and Market Development for Subsistence Marketplaces" course.
"The dean said, 'Why don't you start with a course,'" says Viswanathan. "This is the best thing that could have happened—to be able to teach a course that is a direct product of my research is just an amazing opportunity."
In the fall of 2005, Viswanathan teamed up with Yassine, whose research deals with the interdisciplinary issues of development and managing complex engineering systems, and together they began to lay the foundation for the new course.
"Subsistence-based marketplaces are an important, though often overlooked, piece of the global economy," says Ghosh. "Educating our students while simultaneously helping subsistence communities thrive benefits everyone."
The support of Ghosh, the College, and the University was an integral part of this process. Viswanathan and Yassine received fellowships from the Academy for Entrepreneurial Leadership and grants from the Hoeft Technology and Management Program to fund the course, and Illinois Business Consulting promoted the course through informational sessions. Establishing the curriculum for such an interdisciplinary, underrepresented topic, however, was difficult.
"Avijit gave us great advice—Start small with engineering and business students, and go from there," says Viswanathan
The result is a unique course—not just because of the subject matter, but also because of the integrative, cross-discipline approach to teaching and the philosophies behind the lessons. Business and engineering students work together in a two-semester course sequence with the option to spend ten days in India for hands-on research and immersion into the subsistence environment. Then, working with established companies, students create a business plan and develop a product prototype by the end of the second semester.
"The cross-discipline, collaborative nature of this course is an example of the innovative work that happens in this College and at this University," says Ghosh.
Immersion Excursion
Viswanathan believes that for students to truly understand how a business can be successful in the subsistence environment they must first understand the environment and the plight of the people. "When dealing with subsistence markets, conventional notions of research and practice or even of what is considered rational may have to be set aside," says Viswanathan. "You don't know how it is until you immerse yourself with the specific purpose of understanding."
The first five weeks of the course are spent doing just that. The class explores subsistence marketplaces through analysis of qualitative interviews conducted by Viswanathan, analysis of videos, and wideranging discussions of poverty, literacy, and culture. After participating in a simulation of life in poverty conducted by Robin Orr from the University's Office of Extension, students write first-person accounts of people's lives and build models of what poverty is, the consequences of living in it, and of needs, products, and markets interactions.
Over the next six weeks, students learn the general principles of buyer and seller behavior, market research, marketing, and business elements for subsistence marketplaces through case studies and a range of guest speakers including social workers, technologists, and entrepreneurs. According to Viswanathan, these exercises lead to an understanding of principles for subsistence markets. In parallel, students work on product ideas for specific companies in group projects.
"The bottom-of-the-pyramid philosophy is difficult to execute because it requires a lot of change in terms of thebusiness model, distribution, product development process, and organizational structure," says Margretta Angdjasrin, an M.B.A. student enrolled in the course.
But it was the January trip to India that provided the ultimate immersion experience. While there, students visited rural and urban areas near Madras to conduct both group and one-on-one interviews with buyers and sellers about specific product ideas, and they observed various facets of subsistence marketplaces. And although the students were there to learn about the buyers, sellers, and how the markets operate, Viswanathan reminded them that they could learn from them, too.
"You can't think of subsistence contexts as just markets," says Viswanathan. "If you do, perhaps you miss the point. They are also markets and individuals to learn from. If we can design an affordable cell phone that works in these adverse conditions—it pushes you, but in the end, we have a quality product at an affordable price that may be lead to innovations in other markets as well."
In addition to the nearly five days of interviews and observations, the group visited the Indian Institute of Technology, the GE Research Center, the Microsoft Research Center, and the Indian Institute of Science. Each program or center is working on technological initiatives for subsistence marketplaces.
"The trip gave us a good overview of India, from poor communities to rich individuals, from big corporations to small entrepreneurs, and from technical institutions to non-governmental organizations," says Angdjasrin.
Products with a Soul
When they returned to campus, it was time for the students to put the immersion into action through product development by brainstorming product possibilities, creating business plans, and building prototypes with the help of sponsoring companies Motorola, Kraft, and Unilever.
According to Yassine, who is overseeing this segment of the course, one group is working on a product idea that would connect the poor to the Internet. Another group is designing packaging for a new ready-to-drink beverage to be introduced to the rural poor, and the last project deals with providing poor, young children with health facts through information technology.
"The cross-discipline structure of this course has been quite helpful," says Michael Bloem, a graduate student in electrical and computer engineering. "The business student in my group is helpful in the development of our business plan, the industrial design student comes with a great wealth of knowledge regarding product development, and our engineers are coming in handy as we're working on a prototype."
Viswanathan agrees. "We've got unbelievable talent in this class," he says. "If you have that desire to learn and the idea that what you are doing can actually benefit somebody beyond making a profit, that makes everything worthwhile. Trent Garner, a graduate student in industrial design, has described this as designing 'products with a soul.' That's extremely gratifying to hear. I want the University to be at the forefront of this initiative. And with this course, I believe we are already there."


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dudes gotta stop paintin on peoples fences
thats my boys fence cuz...chill...
atem thinks hes a better writter than me so i challenged his bitch ass 2 a battle and ima let the forum decide.....this sketch was done in like 15 mins no bs abort and alone watched me sketch it 12 colors ^^
the amphibius mutant slime......
thats a daily AMS colorin party right there.!.!.!
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freight rockin... whoop whoop^^
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all day son.!.!.!
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A.M.S fats SONH.!.!, woot whoot.!!
that box cars looking fat.
the jake jekel hamster and grrrr all done by my ***** alone whoop whoop ams murderin it
...too cold out for my blood.
The bee and cap are done by my nukka kid frank whoop whoop
thats not the coolest thing ive seen man
that poets been there forever
y o smooth you should go back to that park and catch some flicks of the new shit there. my whole fucking hand was froze and I had a beefy painters finger after that shit . 9 degree painnn. alone tell abort to get at me somehow.. acid munching saveges wreckin shit!
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i didnt even take those flicks lol,but i'll see what i can do man im sure i can get some one to go take the flicks for me...
still free... mutha fuckers copd a tag on air force one..............
talkin bout gaurds armed with automatic weapons n dogs,...straight ninjas


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28th January 2012 03:03 AM #1
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Did you have your older children at your birth?
I was just reading through this article about having older children at the birth, and thought it shared a lot of wonderful information. From what I have experienced and heard from others, having a support person there for the child(ren) is very important. I have heard of stories where the child became incredibly upset, and it would have been helpful if there was someone there to take the child out of the room for a bit. I have also heard wonderful stories where it helped the family feel connected to have everyone there for the moment the baby was born.
I did not know how my older children would react, and I was too worried about them to have them present at the birth. I did have them there with me during early parts of labour, before it was time to actually deliver the baby. I was surprised at how well they seemed to handle that part. I walked throughout the house and paced during a large part of that time, and my son would come up and rub my back when I stopped walking during a contraction. They may have been fine at the birth, but I was still a bit too uneasy with it. Ultimately, I did not give birth at home, so we really did not have the option to have the children there when our last child was born. I do wonder if they would have been OK being there if things had been different, but it was still wonderful to reconnect with everyone once our baby was born.
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I had my children present during most of my labours. During my 4 births (not including the first one) the children's ages ranged from 19 months (first baby present when second was born) to age 13 (daughter). At the birth of my 3rd child, the two younger ones (boy and girl) were present, but they were 7 year old girl and 5 year old boy. As the boys got older, my husband felt less comfortable having them see me during my labour and birth (I didn't have anything on during my water births).
But I did have my 13 year old present during my entire last birth (she was a great labour coach and helped with timing my contractions). We woke all the children up after the baby was born and I was a little more covered - some were so sleepy they didn't care and they just went back to bed. Others stayed with me.
It worked well for us to do it the way we did.
14th February 2012 11:05 PM #3
Thank you for sharing this Kate. Your birth stories sound so special and unique.
I'm not sure I could have my son with me at my future births as I think it would distract me from relaxing and breathing properly. I'm sure he would be fine but for me personally I think it would make me feel anxious.
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I think having older children present is certainly a personal thing dependent on your own feelings, and those of your children, as well as ages and genders of the children involved.
For my part, I planned a homebirth for my second daughter in almost complete consultation with my then 6 year old daughter. We spent a great deal of time discussing the birth, reading children's books on the topic (Hello Baby is great) and finally watching some very carefully selected DVDs. Somewhere along the way my daughter made a firm decision that she wanted to be in the pool and catch the baby. This was something we included in my birth plan.
To support my daughter I had a friend organised to be available should I labour and birth during the day (because at night she could just be woken for the big moment and sleep through the rest). As beautiful a birth as we had planned, it all went pear-shaped when I started bleeding.
Transferred to hospital in the early hours of the morning our planned birth team changed quite drastically. Thinking I was still in pre-labour, my baby daughter's Godmother had come to look after me through the night, with her 12 year old daughter in tow. So much for pre-labour, the Godmother ended up being the one to drive me to the hospital!
I was painfully aware that it wasn't just me losing the dream but my daughter as well. Still, I persisted in requesting my daughter be allowed into the labour ward and succeeded in having her there, accompanied by aforementioned 12 year old in place of the planned friend. In place of the planned doula, my daughter's Godmother was there.
It sounds like a comedy of errors but everyone pulled together and all was going well. I must admit, I was a bit mortified at having the 12 year old there (that was NOT in the plan) and on a couple of occasions asked that the two girls leave the room (while an internal was performed and when Syntocinon was administered making my contractions very hard to handle) but for the most part I was glad to have them there.
In the end, my baby became wedged in an odd position and there was no way out but a caesaren. Both girls were extremely disappointed and my daughter spent the time I was in theatre huddled on the floor sobbing and hurling abuse at anyone who tried to help her. She was missing out on the most important moment of her life, she felt, and someone had to pay!
As tumultuous as this time was, my daughter now talks about how she was there through the whole labour, to see her baby sister arrive back from theatre, and be one of the first to hold her before she was even an hour old. She exhibits no sign of trauma about the labour and talks very matter-of-factly about how hard, but also wonderful, labour is. She has developed a new-found respect for me and what I (and any woman) can endure for a baby. Her bond with her baby sister is one of the strongest I have seen between siblings (look at my beautiful profile picture to see the love for yourself).
I will always regret that my daughter, after all that planning, was not there for the moment of her sister's birth and I know this loss will stay with my daughter to some extent. But in an odd way, that proves to me that I made the right decision in the first place.
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make a folder called changes on the ext2 partition.
so in a long story involving me unplugging my USB device and hightailing it during system shutdown, it seems my BT3 no longer boots correctly
I reformatted both the FAT and EXT2 partitions and retrieved only my data, replaced the contents of the USB .iso and went through the whole persistent changes stuff and the problem still occurs...only this time, the syslinux.cfg appears blank in linux not in windows.
it stops and gives me a funny error message during startup saying it had a problem with "union" and it should never happen please cntrl+alt+del to restart.
this only happens when I apply the persistent changes.
im confounded... please help
I did that is when it began to refuse to boot
all up to that point is okay


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just wondering that googrape is missing. Is there a reason for that? I liked the tool, could get it from my BT3 installation but just wanted to ask.
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there are, actually, many over many tools (mostly python and perl scripts) that I am missing in bt4 from bt3, but I will just copy them over... or find their newer versions. *but*... I suspect they were not included, because the new ones which I have not yet had the time to research, have similar, overlapping functionality. There must be a reason for not including the old tools...
Porting usually means to make some changes to get it running on a different platform/kernel/whatever.
But as I said its no problem to get it from an older version of BT. Just being curious if it was left out intentionally or maybe just been overseen.
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