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Answer #1:
Damn Vulnerable Linux
There's a long list of alternatives here: Hacking Without All the Jailtime ha.ckers.org web application security lab
Hello. This is my first post, but I've been following/playing with BT for about a year now. I was introduced to it while in a course offered by my employer (which also garnered me the SANS GSEC cert), but haven't had a much opportunity to safely practice the various skills taught and learned due to an organizational shift in focus after I got back from the course. I don't want to lose any more of the knowledge/information I'd learned, basic as it may be, to the fact that I don't practice on a daily basis.
I have a couple of questions, all of which are in regards to pentesting. I want to ensure that when I practice, it's both legal (permission granted, etc) and safe (no chance of any malware escaping into the unknown or my network).
1) Is there an online pentest "playground" that is there for the purpose of allowing pentesters to (legally) practice/hone their skills? I don't think this is likely, and if there is one, it's probably not free. This solution would, however, be the simplest solution to my needs.
2) My brother is much more experienced with Virtual Machines than I am and suggested that he might be able to set up a VM environment I could practice on. However, we don't live in the same house, much less reside on the same network (outside of a common ISP). Would setting something like this up be possible? How difficult would it be if so?
3) I've looked around the forums for the past couple of weeks while I have had the time, searching for possible solutions to my needs (all while trying not to get distracted by other topics of interest). I'd found the De-ICE Live-CD post and registered at the forum there. I'll be downloading the CDs when the opportunity arises. Are these CDs worthwhile?
My basic problem is that I don't want to run afoul of the law when practicing penetration testing. I don't want to "release anything into the wild," and definitely not onto my own (or brother's) networks.
Are local VMs the best/only method for practicing? How difficult, and/or costly, would it be to set up a separate network dedicated solely to pentesting and what would be the minimum needed to be effective?
I know, first post and lots of questions. I've tried Googling for this, but as I tell everyone I've worked with for the last few years, my Google-fu is VERY weak. What I normally come across is either years old and/or funded IT shops asking the question when tasked to set up a test lab for their company.
Any information or insights would be greatly appreciated. I apologize for such a long post.
Answer #1:
Damn Vulnerable Linux
There's a long list of alternatives here: Hacking Without All the Jailtime ha.ckers.org web application security lab
I'm a compulsive post editor, you might wanna wait until my post has been online for 5-10 mins before quoting it as it will likely change.
I know I seem harsh in some of my replies. SORRY! But if you're doing something illegal or posting something that seems to be obvious BS I'm going to call you on it.
Thanks, Thorin. I'll check those out as I have free time.


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SAN ANTONIO HEIGHTS - San Antonio Water Co.'s key water facility is undergoing a makeover.
After five years of planning, the historic Forebay Facility will be be modernized and secured.
"This is very exciting for us. I'm proud to be part of the whole thing," San Antonio Water General Manager Charles Moorrees said.
The facility distributes nearly half of San Antonio's surface water deliveries from San Antonio Creek and nearly all of its drinking water via the San Antonio Tunnel.
The $900,000 project is expected to take one year to complete.
A security gate will be placed around the facility and an emergency bypass mechanism will be installed.
"This is a very historic important thing. It is a key component in our water system, both for our customers in San Antonio Heights and the city of Upland, our major shareholder," San Antonio Water Board President Tom Thomas said during a ground breaking ceremony for the project last week.
It is unknown when the facility was constructed, but San Antonio officials believe it would have been shortly after the underground tunnel was built in the 1800s.
The San Antonio Tunnel was developed by the Chaffey Brothers in the San Antonio Canyon to convey water all the way to the city of Ontario and has been in continuous operation for about 127 years.
The Tunnel pipeline, which will be cleaned out and lined, ends at the Forebay facility where the flows are distributed to the domestic system where it serves the shareholders in San Antonio Heights.
The water captured at the facility is also distributed to Upland's treatment plant, a rock company, golf course and minor grove irrigators.
Upland is the majority shareholder of San Antonio at 68 percent, with San Antonio Heights residents following at 9.6 percent.
The city of Ontario, Monte Vista Water District and Red Hill Country Club each own just under 5 percent each.
Rock companies, grove irrigators and inactive shares make up the rest.
"It's good for the city of Upland because they get quite a bit of their water from this system," San Antonio Board Member Ken Willis said. "Keeping the infrastructure in good operating order is essential to protecting their interest."
Reach Sandra via email, call her at 909-483-8555, or find her on Twitter @UplandNow.

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Side-event: Introductory remarks by Ambassador Wittig on Illicit Wildlife Trafficking
(Introductory remarks delivered by Ambassador Wittig at the launch of the WWF report on Illicit Wildlife Trafficking)
"Dear Ambassador Messone, Excellencies, dear Panelists and Colleagues,
It is a great pleasure and honor for me to welcome you at the German mission for a discussion on illicit wildlife trafficking. I am happy that you, Ambassador Messone, have agreed to host this event jointly with Germanyand the WWF. I welcome Mr. Roberts, President of the World Wildlife Fund, who will lead us through the event and will present to us the latest report on illicit wildlife trafficking commissioned by the WWF.
I also have the honor to welcome Mr. Robert Hormats, Under Secretary of State for Economic Growth, Energy and the Environment at the US Department of State, Professor Lee White, Executive Secretary of the National Park Agency of Gabon, General Ella Ekogha, Chief of Staff of the Gabonese armed forces, and Dr. Lixin Huang, President of the Council of Colleges of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine.
The rapid increase in the poaching and smuggling of numerous rare and endangered species around the world is cause for alarm. Strong demand for rhino horn and ivory in particular has become a driving force behind this development.
Let me give you some recent figures: 2011 was the highest year on record for elephant poaching; ivory estimated to weigh more than 23 metric tons—a figure that represents 2,500 elephants— was confiscated in 2011; and the illegal poaching of rhinos surged to a record high in 2011, with a final death toll of 448 rhinos in Southern Africa alone. This year this trend continues. In 2007 only 13 rhinos were killed by poachers – an increase of more than 3000% within 4 years. There may be as few as 3,200 wild tigers left in the world - and the increase in poaching makes extinction of tiger species a very real threat.
Poaching is an organized crime, which is more profitable than ever. Ivory costs up to $1,000 per pound and rhino horns are up to approximately $30,000 per pound . Demand is growing for different reasons, one of them being the continuing myth of the medical effects of treatment with rhino horns. Trade in protected species promises enormous profits with little risk. This provides fertile ground for the growth of well-organized criminal bands and cartels.
Illegal Wildlife trafficking is not only a serious crime: Poaching occurs across boarders and constitutes a threat to regional stability, territorial integrity and sustainable social and economic development of the countries concerned. Trafficking in illegal wildlife products today can be considered as professionalized and lucrative as drug and human trafficking. In order to successfully combat this development, we urgently need new strategies and more international efforts across political and institutional lines. This is why we have to rethink our approach.
Germany is strongly committed to international biodiversity conservation and has in recent years continuously increased funding of projects. Germanysupports projects strengthening law enforcement in African countries and cross-border cooperation, as well as awareness raising measures in Asian countries.
With respect to the protection of African elephants and the struggle against poaching and illegal trade in ivory, African states adopted the African Elephant Action Plan in 2007. Germanysupports its implementation financially.
In addition, Germanyis carrying out a project to develop a method to determine the origin and age of ivory. This instrument will be of use to customs and criminal prosecutors and will be made available to all countries of origin and sale. It will contribute to uncovering the structures and pathways of ivory smuggling.
Germany was also the main sponsor of a proposal "Conservation of African elephants", adopted by a large majority at the recent World Congress of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) in September in Jeju (Korea).
Our side event today aims to achieve two objectives: We want to raise awareness that illicit wildlife trafficking is a serious transnational organized crime which requires a more significant and dedicated response. And we want to initiate a discussion about how the UN can contribute more effectively to address this issue.
During today´s event, the WWF will launch a report, which gives valuable insight into these dramatic developments. The report provides a thorough analysis of illicit wildlife trafficking and its economic, social and other implications, and it contains key policy recommendations. I recommend careful studying of the report to all of you. It is a wake up call we can not ignore.
I am looking forward to a lively discussion. Thank you!"


text: Like I said before, I had the priviledge of free surfing with Taj and his boys before the trestles event earlier this year and man... That guy is going to win a lot this year. Maybe its just because being in the water with him was a completely different perspective than what you see from the beach, or on TV. But he surfs so much faster and with so much precision than in years past.... I think he is going to finally break through and start dominating. The guy is ridiculous... I felt the same way about fanning about 4 years ago... You could just tell that stuff was clicking and that he was on fire... And that if anyone was gonna battle kelly, it was him... Im thinking Taj is finally gonna break through... Maybe this week... I like the aussies on their home turf... Taj was murdering SoCal, so I can't wait to see him get lose back in OZ with the other boys.


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DUI driver takes out power pole
Friday morning, the driver of a BMW on Tonquin Road near Sherwood crashed into a power pole, snapping it in half. Through the investigation, deputies developed probable cause to arrest the driver. Tonquin Road was closed for several hours.
At 11:11 a.m., Friday morning, deputies responded to an injury crash on Tonquin Road. When deputies arrived, EMS was already on scene. They told deputies the driver 49-year-old Gail Feldman of Wilsonville did not have life threatening injuries. EMS also said she was acting abnormally. Feldman was transported to OHSU by ambulance.
As the investigation continued, deputies had reason to believe Feldman was intoxicated. It was determined Feldman's blood alcohol content was substantially higher than the legal limit of .08. Deputies also believe she was driving her 2003 BMW SUV recklessly prior to the crash.
As a result of the crash, there was also a live power pole down on the road. PGE responded to the scene and it took several hours to replace the pole. Traffic was affected for close to 5 hours.
Gail Feldman was cited for DUII, Reckless Driving and Criminal Mischief.


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The reputation of Château Latour was consolidated during the 19th century. It was confirmed in 1855, when the government of Napoléon III decided to classify the growths of the Médoc and the Graves for the International Exhibition in Paris: Château Latour was classified as a First Growth. The existing château was built during this "Golden Age", between 1862 and 1864. View all Château Latour Wines
About PauillacView a map of Pauillac wineries (pouy-YACK)
Home to three premier cru (first growth) chateaux, Pauillac is a leader in quality Bordeaux. Chateaux Latour, Lafite Rothschild and Mouton Rothschild are situated within the Pauillac appellation. Sandwiched between St.-Estèphe and St.-Julien, Pauillac wines are big - known for their combination of elegance and power.
Notable FactsThe gravel-based soils of Pauillac are key in creating the structured wines produced there. Like most of Bordeaux's left bank, Cabernet Sauvignon is the leading grape. Some typical descriptions of wine from Pauillac include: concentrated, full-bodied, powerful, firm tannins, ability to mature. Not all of the Pauillac wines are top price collectibles that you can only find at auctions. There are great values in the lower level crus, like the fifth growth, Chateau Lynch-Bages, as well as great Cru Bourgeois such as Chateau Pibran. These wines are more affordable and often mature a bit sooner.
About France - Other regionsWhen it comes to wine, France is a classic. Classic blends, grapes and styles began in the country and they still remain. Think about it - people ask for a Burgundian style Pinot Noir, they refer to wines as Bordeaux or Rhone blends - Champagne even had to pass a law to stop international wineries from putting their region on the label of all sparkling wine.
The top regions of France are: Bordeaux, Burgundy, Champagne, Languedoc-Roussillon, Loire, Rhone. And these regions are so diverse! It makes sense that wine regions throughout the world try to emulate their style. Pinot Noir, Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon and Syrah are no longer French varieties, but international varieties. They may not be the leader of cutting edge technology or value-priced wines, but there is no doubt that they are still producing wines of great quality and diversity.


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The journey so far has been fun and challenging at the same time.
I work in Corporate Services and Real Estate in Jersey City and am part of the Procurement and Commercial Management team. In my role, I help to procure services, establish contracts and manage vendor commercial relationships for different business groups within the firm. My work is team based and requires that I partner with global counterparts and business managers across real estate, business services and Human Capital Management. My role requires me to manage projects, engage vendors and balance multiple stakeholder expectations while ensuring compliance with the firm's policies to help proactively identify and mitigate risks.
Project management is an integral part of the Procurement role. Since I am always juggling multiple projects and deadlines, each day is different from the last! Typically I will spend my time project planning and working with project teams to ensure tasks are being completed as per schedule. As the procurement lead on projects, my role includes developing the sourcing strategy for the project, creating the competitive bid package, drafting the contract, negotiating deals with vendors and working to ensure we get the best commercial deal while mitigating any risks.
The procurement role however goes beyond just negotiating a good deal – I am also involved in ongoing management of vendors, and support the business teams in managing the long term strategy and relationships with their vendors.
I began my career at the Goldman Sachs office in Bengaluru, India. I joined the firm out of college and spent the first few years with the Bengaluru team learning about the business, supporting the procurement team globally and expanding my knowledge base. Three years into my career, I was given the opportunity to relocate to the Jersey City office, so I decided to make the change and join the America team.
The journey so far has been fun and challenging at the same time. Relocating to another office has been a great learning experience and I have had the good fortune of working with incredibly smart people who have continued to motivate and support me through it all.
I always knew that I wanted to work in an organization with a strong corporate culture, that had a global footprint and that welcomed and nurtured talent. I found all this and much more at Goldman Sachs. A career in financial services is challenging and demanding, with lots of long hours, high expectations and hard work – but know that it will all pay off in the end! You learn with every experience and grow quickly, and if you remain enthusiastic and proactive, a career in finance will prove to be very rewarding.


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Avenida Balboa-Multicentro, Panama City, Panama
"Very unclear to everyone (including the staff) what is included"
Posted by: Michelle from Ontario on Mar 1, 2008
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When it's time to relax, guests at the Radisson Decapolis Hotel Panama City may visit Aqua Spa and Gym on the fourth floor of the hotel. Aqua Spa , the premiere Panama City spa, combines unique facilities with traditional services for a relaxing and memorable experience.
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"Very unclear to everyone (including the staff) what is included"
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Michelle from Ontario on Mar 1, 2008 >
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521 people found this review helpful
Arrived after spending 11 days at the DeCameron Resort. Check in was efficent and speedy, well organized. Rooms The rooms appeared nice, until you looked closely.......the bathrooms were not really that clean. Restaurants You are only entitled to one buffet restuarant. The food was okay, breakfast and lunch were way better than the dinner. We ate other places for dinner.
They ran out of drinks and it is very unclear to everyone (including the staff) what is included.
Beach and Pools:
the pool was nice, but the staff at the pool were not. I saw them recycling towels on more than one occassion, which is unacceptable and gross.
We took a city tour with a man named Juan and his jeep. We had a fantastic time, I would reccommed this as long as its just you, 2 other people and him. Because the group was so small, it was very personable
I would go to another hotel if you are going to do the split. I have heard many great things about the Gamboa.
"A great hotel in downtown Panama City"
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Maureen from Ottawa Ontario on Feb 1, 2006 >
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We spent 4 days here from January 26-30 after 10 days at the Decameron.
This is a great hotel in downtown Panama City and we had a most enjoyable 4 days.
We came from the Decameron on a small bus, about a 2 hour drive, with a tour guide to educate us along the way. The first thing we saw at the Decapolis was an escalator, heaven after all the stairs at the Decameron. Check in was very quick, the first thing I noticed was the everyone spoke English, the front desk staff, the bartenders, and even the bell boys.
Our room was 1305, 13th floor with a view of the Pacific Ocean. Two double beds with a great down comforter, nice sink and tub and shower. A programmable safety deposit box was included (located in the closet), there was a fridge but charges applied to the contents. I bought drinks at the mall and kept them in the fridge though.
There was a small pool and a whirlpool, lounge chairs and a bar on the 4th floor. Also a spa and gym on this floor. I booked a 50 minute massage on our last day and it was great. The spa is very classy. A swedish 50 minute massage was $50, very reasonable. Food was excellent. Buffet breakfast on the 3rd floor, eggs, bacon, rolls, fruit, a great breakfast.
Lunch and dinner were on the 1st floor, we ordered off the menu, lots of choice and excellent meals, well presented and service was excellent. We loved the spring rolls and the caesar salad with prawns was excellent and the desserts were the best.
We were given bracelets but also had to sign for everything, drinks, meals, as well as give our room number every time we went into the restaurant. They kept telling us that there would be no charges that we were just signing so they knew what we were eating and drinking and they were right there were no additional charges for anything when we checked out.
Seemed to be a bit of confusion with some drinks not being included but overall we could get beer, nice wine, and most mixed drinks. I did get a bloody mary one night and then the next night they told me it wasn't included but not a big deal. I tried again the next night and got one no problem. We were linked to a large shopping centre and casino, lots of brand name stores, and hardly anyone shopping. There was an internet cafe here that was a good deal, $1 for 1 hour of internet use. It was on the third floor. You could also make calls to Canada here for really reasonable costs. We went on two tours organized by the Decameron explorer group, we did the half day canal and city tour, it was $45 and reasonable. Great guide who showed us quite a bit in a few hours. We also did the partial panama canal cruise, cost was $96 each and was from 9 - 4, time varies based on how long you have to wait at the locks. This was also a great tour, a bit expensive but something you will probably only do once. It's a long hot day though so be prepared, sunscreen and a hat along with your camera.
All in all a great 4 days and a nice way to end your vacation. You are much closer to the airport for departure than if you stayed at the Decameron. The Nolitours reps on site were great and there was one gentleman, his name was Stephan, who told us he was in charge of all the Decameron people who came to the Decapolis, he was always around and was so helpful, he read menus for us, he made sure we were always with drinks, etc. We wondered when he slept since he seemed to be everywhere.
Feel free to email me with any questions at email@example.com
"This is a really outstanding hotel. "
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Al and Karen from Calgary on Aug 1, 2005 >
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Visited on: Aug, 2005
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My husband and I just returned from 2 weeks at the Royal Decameron and Decapolis in Panama. When we transferred hotels for our four nights in Panama City. We werent expecting anything quite as luxurious as the Decapolis. I dont think they have a lot of dealings with all-inclusive guests because it was quite difficult to understand what was included and what was not. The staff at the Decameron as a whole spoke a lot more English which really surprised me.
The rooms at this hotel are very beautiful with frosted glass walls around the bathroom. We were on the 27th floor with a view of the Pacific. The pool was pretty small but the hot tub was a welcome place when we came back from our outings. It was actually hot, the first time Ive seen a hot hot tub in the south.
The pool bar was great. It was the only bar you could get served at wearing shorts. The difficulty was in knowing what was included with the all-inclusive. We could have house brands of liquor but no liqueurs. I could have a pina colada but not a mango colada, very confusing. Although they would tell you if you ordered something that wasnt included. The restaurant was really awesome. The presentation of the food was definitely 5+ stars. The brochure said continental breakfast but you could also get eggs, omelettes, pancakes etc off of the menu. The lunch menu had four choices and a salad and sandwich bar. The dessert tray was incredible. We just cut tiny pieces and tried everything. The dinner menu had quite a lot to choose from. There were about 20 appetizers. The Caesar salad with tempura prawns was to die for. In fact the last night, I had that for a main course and had another appetizer. The confusing thing about the dinner menu was that the told us the lobster, duck and piglet was not included in the all-inclusive , but the next night we were told we could have duck and the night after my husband had piglet with no charge. Hopefully they will get more used to having an all-inclusive crowd and get these things worked out. We did not take any planned excursions because the tour company is the same as at the Decameron and they charge you the same prices even though you are now close to the places. We just did our own thing. We took a cab to the Panama Canal and paid $8.00 to go on the tour. We took a cab from the hotel to the Caledonia bus station and then took a red devil bus for 60 cents to the Gamboa. We walked in the rain forest and around the resort at the Gamboa, Had a Gamboa beer, their own brew for $1.00 and went for a ride on the monkey boats for $20.00.
The World of Vacations rep at the hotel will try to talk you out of going on the buses because she says it is in a not so safe area, but at no time did we ever see anything going on or feel unsafe. We even went to the Saturday market in that part of town. We went to the Park Metropolitan which is the city rain forest. They give you a trail map that you can follow. We walked around the trails for about 2 ½ hours and saw lots of birds, bugs, butterflies and lemurs. The lookout from the top of the canopy is outstanding. You can see all of Panama City and the canal. This only cost a donation of $2.00. You can also rent a guide if you are so inclined. I dont know how much that would be though. We didnt see any toucans unfortunately, maybe with a guide we would have. We also walked around the ruins of old Panama City until stopped by a huge rain storm. When it rains, it REALLY RAINS. The water was up to the doors of the cab and they dont slow down for a bit of rain. It was really hairy. Apart from that, we went to a few malls, much to my husbands disgust. The best mall where the locals do a lot of shopping is Albrook mall, cab ride from the hotel. There is a store called el Costo, kind of like Winners. I got my daughter some body glove and bebe tops for $2.99. On the weekend they also have entertainment at the malls. There is a mall right beside the hotel with a lot of designer stores. There is also a place on the third floor, dont remember its name but you can see computers and little rooms in it. From there you can call Canada for 20cents a minute. The other mall is called the multiplaza pacific and you can walk there if you want in about 20 minutes. I found being in the city for a few days really interesting and I would do it again.
This is a really outstanding hotel.


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Thread: Breastfeeding a Toddler
13th January 2014 07:37 AM #1
Breastfeeding a Toddler
Can you share your experiences of breastfeeding a toddler? We want to encourage other mums to continue breastfeeding their children as they turn from babies to toddlers.
The World Heath Organisation recommend breastfeeding to two years of age and beyond. Indeed, there are huge benefits to breastfeeding a child in the second year of life and beyond. At two years of age a child can still get 20% of their required nutrients from breastmilk. Of course, this will depend upon being put on the breast often enough to keep up mum's milk supply. As a child starts to walk they also benefit from the ongoing emotional support that breastfeeding provides them. So much is developing in your toddler's mind and body but special bonding time with mum is still really important. That closeness also aids your toddler's social and speech and language development. Breastfeeding your toddler also reduces their risk of contracting many illnesses and raises their immunity levels.
In the words of Elizabeth Baldwin (in Extended Breastfeeding and the Law):
'Breastfeeding is a warm and loving way to meet the needs of toddlers and young children. It not only perks them up and energises them; it also soothes the frustrations, bumps and bruises, and daily stresses of early childhood. In addition, nursing past infancy helps little ones make a gradual transition to childhood.'
My own experience of breastfeeding toddlers has been that it provides us with some magical cuddles and wonderful bonding times. We have both laughed together and held hands as I have breastfed my toddlers. I feel that we are building our relationship for the years to come; my hope is that these will be relationships founded in love, warmth and care.
We would love to hear your experiences of breastfeeding your toddler.
13th January 2014 07:59 AM #2
Breastfeeding for 3.5 years
I have fond memories of breastfeeding my children. My first child Joshua self weaned at 15 months and I felt sad. We'd had a lot of issues breastfeeding starting from his birth. Joshua was born at 35 weeks and was separated from me - he went on to develop severe reflux and didn't gain weight. But we continued on until 15 months and that was a great achievement considering the barriers we'd faced at the time. Jarred and Lia were a very different story. Both children breastfed from birth without difficulty and grew into healthy chubby babies. Our breastfeeding relationship continued for three and a half years. I breastfed Jarred through Lia's pregnancy and continued on feeding them both weaning Jarred when Lia was around 9 months old. I made the decision to wean Lia when she was 3 and a half years old as I had been breastfeeding continuously at that time for over 6 years and I needed to stop. My memories of snuggling with my toddlers soothing them to sleep. Being available if they were hurt and offering them comfort. We not only experienced the emotional and physical benefits of breastfeeding a toddler but the health benefits as well. Both Lia and Jarred rarely got sick and if they did they recovered very quickly. They have grown into happy and healthy children. Joshua is now 24 years, Jarred 13 years and Lia 10 years old. The attached photo is me breastfeeding Jarred
13th January 2014 08:01 AM #3
I thought you might be interested in this article called "The pleasure of extended Breastfeeding" www.pregnancy.com.au/breastfeeding/breastfeeding_information/the-pleasure-of-extended-breastfeeding.shtml
13th January 2014 01:40 PM #4
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I can't imagine parenting a toddler without breastfeeding. It fixes everything! Painkiller and distraction if they're hurt, comfort if they're upset, a quick snack if they're hungry/thirsty, calming if they're overtired, connection at the end of a busy day, etc etc... mine fed until 27 months and 3.5 years, and self-weaned during pregnancy and just on her own, respectively.
14th January 2014 06:14 AM #5
Thank you Jane (aussiemidwife) and Asrathiel for sharing your experiences.
The article which Jane has linked to above mentions this research:
'In every case, regardless of the outcome health variable, the longer the child was breastfed, the better the health outcome, with the children breastfed for 18-24+ months having the lowest risk….' (Dettwyler, 1998)
What an encouragement that breastfeeding a toddler is the natural thing to do and gives your toddler immense health, social, emotional and developmental advantages. I want to celebrate all mums who are breastfeeding their toddlers and I hope this encourages others to continue in their breastfeeding journeys.
I look forward to reading more toddler breastfeeding stories.
Best wishes,
14th January 2014 11:15 PM #6
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Hi there,
I followed a link from FB, and would love to share my experiences.
I'm currently tandem-breastfeeding my 3yo & 17 month old daughters.
It's been an easy journey for us, thankfully, and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. There are times where I feel very touched out, and just want space & not to have my boobs grabbed at, but it's otherwise great.
As Asrathiel mentioned, it's a excellent way to soothe an upset or hurt child, calming a tantrum, or even just cause you want some snuggles. And although I never would have thought before I became a mum that I'd breastfeed past infancy, I just couldn't imagine not doing it.
I breastfed my eldest for 5.5mths, she self weaned after I introduced a bottle to help give my cracked nipples a break (big mistake), and after that short experience, I was left determined to do better the next time around. My son (baby #2) breastfed till he was 18mths, weaning on his own terms when I was 22wks pregnant with baby #3.
I love breastfeeding, and am so grateful that I've had such an easy experience (excluding the 1.5mths of my eldest refusing the breast & weaning).
I have written 2 blog posts on my experience, and am happy to share them. Though I can't seem to add the links as I am a new member.
15th January 2014 07:39 AM #7
Dear Pippityroo,
Welcome to the forum and thank you so much for sharing your inspiring experiences. This is awesome! I tandem fed my two until my older son was about 32 months - he used to say 'two milks, two boys'. It really should be as simple as that I feel
Occasionally (at the end of the day) I also feel 'out touched' but this isn't for long compared to all our lovely breastfeeding times.
Can you share your blog links in reply to my post or private message me and I can share them?
Thanks again for sharing and helping to encourage all of breastfeeding forum mums and mums-to-be.
Warm wishes,
15th January 2014 08:58 AM #8
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Thank you LJ And you're welcome.
That's cute.
I love when they get to the age, where they are vocal & ask for it. My 3yo (well not actually 3 till next Friday) says "please beautiful Mummy, can I have some boobie!" Or "just a little bit boobie?".
Whereas my 17mth old just climbs on me & helps herself, all the while saying "ooo-waah!" Or "boob-ahh!" (Her words for boob). She's much more addicted to the boob than my others were at this age. I'm finding I have to stand at times throughout the day, otherwise I'll have her on me all day, this is where I am touched out & need my space. But thankfully its only small moments that I feel like this, & I have much more positive breastfeeding moments.
15th January 2014 08:59 AM #9
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Figured out I just needed 5 posts before I could post a link.
Here are my links;
(Almost) 3 years of breastfeeding - https://lactasticmamachatterings.wor...g-well-almost/
My breastfeeding Journey - https://lactasticmamachatterings.wor...eding-journey/
I also have a video/slideshow that I made from 365 breastfeeding photos I took last year - https://lactasticmamachatterings.wor...tfeeding-2013/
16th January 2014 06:39 AM #10
Dear Pippityroo,
Thank you for sharing these links
Your 365 breastfeeding photos video is absolutely beautiful. What a wonderful piece of breastfeeding art. I am feeling inspired to do the same. You have a lovely family and what an awesome start to life you are giving your happy, contented, well-attached children.
Just wondering if you ever breastfed in a sling and, if so, how you find this? I enjoyed a long walk with my 14 month old on the boob in the sling (a Toddler Tula) at the weekend.
Thank you for sharing your inspirational breastfeeding stories. It sounds like your breastfeeding friends have helped to support and encourage you. I really feel peer-to-peer breastfeeding support is key to encouraging long, happy breastfeeding relationships.
Best wishes,
16th January 2014 01:38 PM #11
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You're welcome.
Yep I've breastfed in a ring sling, it worked out ok, but not as comfortable as breastfeeding in the ergo.
16th January 2014 02:16 PM #12
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BF in Ergo worked well for me with Zara, never tried with Malachi or with any other carrier.
I was a bit disappointed that I didn't get to try tandem feeding. After Malachi weaned I thought he might be interested again when Zara was born and he saw her feeding, but nope. Oh well :P
18th January 2014 06:56 AM #13
Thanks for sharing which slings worked for you when breastfeeding. I like breastfeeding in a stretchy sling for a newborn baby and then a Mei Tai as they get a bit bigger but I know lots of women find ring slings great for breastfeeding toddlers in.
Sorry you haven't experienced tandem feeding Asrathiel (yet, unless you go on to have bubba no. 4....). I know it can feel emotional when a toddler stops feeding and you don't quite feel ready for it yet.
Best wishes,


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