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I'm not great at keeping up with social media, but I was recently convinced to start putting up photos on Instagram. If you'd like to see my photos fairly regularly, you can follow me https://www.instagram.com/tuxable/. I'm going for a photo every day – not quite succeeding so far, but getting close. However, there will be a two to three week break soon when I'll be up north without a cell signal. I'll keep the details under wraps for now, but I'm pretty excited to be able to share some photos with you when I get back!
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An eight day backpacking trip concluded our epic August adventure. After learning to do a bit of map and compass work, we set off all together on a sunny hike up to Allstones Lake. Our packs were heavy with food for our 8 day trip. The first part of the hike is well known and the trail well-travelled, so while we could learn how to navigate with map and compass, we didn't need to. We got to Allstones with time to set up our tarps, filter some water, and make some supper before dark. Our bearhangs (rope systems to hang all our food between trees so bears can't get at them) took a little longer and we finished them off in the dark with headlamps.
Then we all crawled into our sleeping bags under our tarps for what would turn out to be a miserable night. It was clear when we went to sleep, but a storm rolled in overnight and it started raining and blowing really hard. Our tarp was open at both ends and I was sleeping on the outside. My sleeping bag got pretty wet and I got pretty cold. This set the tone for the rest of the trip. The morning dawned, cold, dark, and rainy. We made breakfast, ate, and packed up as quickly as we could.
This was the first day our small group was alone. We were meeting up with everyone else at a pre-determined location on the map. There were no more trails and the trees were thick, making landmarking difficult. To add to this, the clouds were low, and often we couldn't see any mountains, even when the trees thinned out. The rain was cold and constant, finding a way through all our waterproof layers. We quickly switched from navigating by landmarks to dead reckoning (going a specific compass direction). We tried to gauge our distance by the number of drainages we passed through, but we didn't know our exact elevation and the number of drainages on the map varied depending on the elevation.
We debated where we were quite a bit, pointing out hills in the distance, and the direction of creeks we crossed. Eventually we got to an open mountainside where we could see more than one landmark at once. We debated, ended up with two possibilities of where we could be, with most of us being pretty sure of one. But on a day when we were all cold, wet, and miserable, with darkness starting to loom, we thought we better be sure. We took out the GPS and confirmed our guess. We were where we thought we were, but we still had a ways to go. We eventually found the right drainage to walk down, followed the swampy, willowy valley, and ended up close to our campsite. We were all soaked, although hiking had kept us warm up to this point.
As we got into camp though, the cold started creeping in and we started slowing down. As we tried to set up the tarp with shaking, numb fingers, others in our group searched for less-damp wood with which to start a fire. Nothing was dry. Through chattering teeth, we made sure everyone had their tasks, and we set about doing the chores of the evening. Somehow we managed to get the tarp set up, a fire made, and supper cooked. We changed into drier clothes and tried to warm up.
By then it was dark, and we needed sleep. We crawled into our sleeping bags and slept extra close that night. Morning came. It was still drizzling, on and off. Most of our gear was wet, but there was nothing to be done about it, so we packed up and headed out. Our route for the day was pretty clear – we would follow a valley through a low pass, and then once the ground leveled out we would head straight north. The day was a little less wet than the day before, our route a little clearer, and our group's spirits were high. We even saw blue sky for a few minutes before it clouded over again.
This time we were one of the first groups to camp, and we had a little bit of time to relax in addition to all the evening chores. We got our tarp set up early with drying lines underneath. There was a good gravel bar for a kitchen beside the Bighorn River. The sun came out a bit that evening, and we found out we would have a layover day to dry out our gear. We went to bed happy, if not especially warm.
The next day was full of drying gear, learning to identify plants, journaling, and talking with other groups we had barely seen in a few days.
Then it was time for our small group to head off on our own for a couple days. We picked our route and our campsite for the next night, said goodbye to our home for the last day and a half, and headed out.
Despite regular intervals of rain, the fact that there was any sun at all made us pretty happy and the day started out great! We had a long hike ahead of us, but there was a lake at the end of it, and hiking together as a group was a silly and fun affair. At lunch we took off our boots, dried out our feet, and basked in a half hour of sun. It was glorious. After lunch we skipped through meadows, making up songs accompanied by harmonica.
However, the meadows turned into swamp. The songs turned to blues. The skipping turned to slogging. The rest of the day was pushing through mossy swamps up to our knees, briefly climbing steep hills only to find we had to go back down into the swamp. We were soooo happy to finally see the lake.
We had a relaxing evening at the lake and slept in the next morning. We woke up to sun for the first time (actually the only time) that trip and water quietly lapping at the shore. We had a leisurely breakfast, packed up, and headed out, changing our route slightly to not lose as much elevation. Crossing the valley above the lake was less swampy than we were worried about. We headed up a south-facing slope of thin pines to gain the ridge and head to our next camp to see everyone again. The hiking was quick and fun, but fallen trees soon slowed us down. It took us longer than expected to get to the next camp, with a steep, mossy decent on the north side of the ridge. After a steeper-than-hoped-for slide down to the river, we crossed and found camp.
It was really good to see the group again. There were hugs, high fives, and stories all around. For the rest of the trip, we would all hike together. We had a good supper with burnt pudding for desert, which kind of tasted horrible but because it was chocolate and we were camping, it was good.
The next morning we all packed up as a large group and started climbing.
We quickly gained the ridge and had great views. We even got a spot of sun during lunch. But lunch got cut short as clouds started rolling in.
We hiked to another small peak in the rain and fog, and then sat down for an appropriately cold reflection on our trip.
After climbing down in a cold, cutting rain, we found another soggy campsite and had a great evening with the group. We had a potluck and skits or songs from each group, and then climbed under our tarps for the last time. The next morning we packed up and bushwhacked out the last few kilometers to the road where a few people hitchhiked back to get a vehicle.
And that's how it ended, as all trips do, with a "Oh, I guess it's done. What now?"
Adventures on the Brazeau
The middle part of August was spent on the Brazeau River. The trip started with a drive to the put-in and a portage to get the boats and gear down to the river. It was supposed to be a roughly 2km portage, but it turned out the river had moved and there was no good place to put in where we had planned. This required a short planning session, a bit of exploration, and eventually a longer portage.
To get the boats down the steep bank to our new campsite and put-in, we built a pulley system to lower the canoes with gear in them. The portage and lowering took until after 9pm, at which point we were all hungry and tired.
But we were finally at the river. We had canoes and gear and could start our trip. Despite being tired, I couldn't resist staying up a little later to see the stars come out, watch the moon rise, and listen to the river rushing by. Tomorrow we would be canoeing this beauty, and that was exciting!
The next day dawned clear and bright. After a breakfast of toast and beans warmed over a fire, we packed up our tents and sleeping bags, loaded the canoes, and started paddling.
At almost every corner there were significant rapids and we would stop to scout them. Often they were not a big deal, but every once in a while there would be some high-consequence rocks to avoid.
Sometimes they were just fun!
We were canoeing into two groups. I was near the back of the second group. Then there was a fairly long section of big waves followed by a tricky corner with no place to stop and scout from. A lot of the canoes had been taking on a bit of water in the long section of whitewater. I didn't see what happened to the first group at the corner, but I saw the leader in my group flip over. The next canoe got pushed into a rock and dumped. Then the canoe right in front of me dumped. At that point I knew there was a good chance of me and Bjarke going over, so we just focused on picking a good line, not pushing through the big waves (to get less water in the boat) but having enough power to get through the current to the other side before getting pushed into the rock, and just getting through so we could help people out on the other side. We made it, but had quite a bit of water in our canoe. We eddied out on the other side of the turn, but it wasn't much of an eddy and was trying to push us further downstream. We saw a beach on the other side and ferried across in our now-tippy canoe to assess the situation. There was one other canoe and five other people there. Across the river we could see one canoe and four people.
There were 21 in our group. Eventually, we heard that the leader of the first group had been able to keep 5 canoes from getting too far downstream and people were scattered along both shores, separated by water and cliffs. Eventually we accounted for everyone and all the canoes. Amazingly, the only damage was one broken yoke and a lot of cold, wet people. Duct tape "fixed" the first problem and lots of fires, shared warm clothes from accessible canoes, and movement fixed the second one. After a few hours (including a thunderstorm that stalled our efforts for a bit) we managed to collect everybody and everything in one spot and set off to find a place we could stop and camp. The corner is now affectionately named "Carnage Corner" by our group.
Exhausted and hungry, we pulled into our new campsite on a sandy island. Unloading, setting up camp, changeing out of wet clothes, and making supper took a long time, but we all had lots of stories to tell and listen to and the time flew by.
We had a good few days on the island, learning all kinds of plant identification, wilderness skills, and enjoying being completely immersed in nature.
We had time to reflect on the different roles in emergency response, what our response was and what we wished it had been. It was decided that we would end the canoe trip early as there was a section further down the river where the consequences for a similar debacle would be much more severe. There was a canyon where, if someone dumped, they would be swimming for kilometers instead of meters. With water that cold, hypothermia would not only be possible but likely in such a situation. So we had time for chatting, campfires, and some much needed rest.
After a few days I was happy to get back on the water. As we went downstream there were still rapids but they seemed to get less constant and more easily avoidable. The cliffs on each side lowered a bit. Maybe it was just that I was well rested, but the canoeing seemed a lot easier and maybe a little less exciting.
We got to our new take-out spot early in the afternoon and started the process of unloading canoes and loading up trailers. And we started thinking about the next section of our trip – backpacking.
Whitewater Instruction
During the first bit of August I was learning to be a better canoeist, canoe instructor, and whitewater rescuer. These were full, intense days mostly on the Kananaskis River. I've taken a Paddle Canada Moving Water course before, but it was a long time ago and even then my skills needed a lot of work. The skill development involved much ferrying (getting across the river without being pushed downstream) and many eddy turns and s-turns. Paddle Canada has changed some of their teaching methods recently so we learned the older PATS (Power, Angle, Tilt, Stroke) and got a taste of the newer MITH (Momentum, Initiate, Tilt, Hold) methods for eddy turns. I actually enjoyed seeing the difference between the two. I learned more by trying both than if I had just learned one. I'm sad they're losing the angle of the canoe in the transition to MITH because I found that a very important factor to consider depending on the speed and angle of the current and where I wanted to end up. But the end result in either case is that you have to feel the canoe and water working together smoothly to get where you want to go. We worked on our form come rain or shine, on warm days and cold days.
We also did a quick trip down the river from Canoe Meadows to Seebe to work on our river reading skills and have a bit of fun. There was one hole where a few people dumped, but it was an easy self rescue as the river was pretty calm for a while downstream.
In the evenings we dried all the wet gear we could, made supper, washed dishes, filtered water, sometimes fixed and modified canoes, and then went to sleep in our tents in Canoe Meadows.
Some days we switched it up and did some whitewater rescue work. This involved a lot of throw bag practice, rope system figuring, and learning to swim in rapids. One evening, to practice our z-drags, we set up a 9-1 rope system to pull a Suburban across the field. This was good practice for our test of pulling a kayak loaded with rocks up a 30 foot cliff the next day. This was to simulate the amount of force needed to pull a canoe off a rock. Once in my life I've had the misfortune of being in a group where a canoe got wrapped. I didn't know about z-drags then and I didn't have the equipment with me anyway. After trying to move the canoe for half an hour, we ended up getting a tree to use as a lever and with three of us pulling on the tree we eventually pried it off the rock. Water flowing at a good speed is not something to be taken lightly.
Swimming was the most fun though (at least for the people whose drysuits were not leaking). The combination of defensive swimming, aggressive swimming, and rolling across eddy lines was a lot of work, a lot of fun, and really effective education. It did involve a fair number of bruised knees, ripped nails, and jammed fingers, but we all survived and had a blast.
Although it was rare, we occasionally got a chance to chill. These times were filled with music, walks along the river, and campfires.
It was hard for me to fit photography into this intense schedule. It was great practice for me to take pictures of people in action without being too distracted from the learning I had to do along with everyone else. But my normal practice of meditative photography was pretty much impossible. Since August I've had the opportunity to lead a canoe trip and do a bit of teaching. Although there was still a lot to do and a lot of interaction, I found a lot more time for photography while leading. Hopefully I'll eventually get to that story here too.
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Wildlife Photography Classes
I'm excited to be teaching two new "Wildlife Photography" classes, and one more "Mastering Your SLR". Hope some of you can make it out!
The Wildlife Photography classes are at the Edmonton Valley Zoo and are on January 7th and April 1st. You can register for them by going to the City of Edmonton's site at ereg.edmonton.ca (course codes 571161 and 588946) or by calling 311 in Edmonton.
Mastering Your SLR is in St. Albert on January 8th. You can register at stalbertphotoclasses.com/wp/mastering-your-slr/.
Happy Thanksgiving! I thought I'd celebrate with some live wild turkeys. The photo is taken in Edgewood County Park and Natural Preserve near Palo Alto, California.
150mm, f4, 1/640 of a second
The October 16th Mastering Your SLR class is filling up fast, but there are still a few spots left!
For those of you wondering what I've been up to: the last couple of months I've been honing my leadership, teaching, and outdoor skills. It's been a challenging and interesting journey that's taken me down a few rivers, up into the mountains, and even inside a classroom. It has filled up most of my days, and I've missed time for focusing on my photography and posting updates here. I hope I get a chance to write down some of the stories and share some of the photos here soon.
Photo taken in the White Goat Wilderness Area
12mm, f10, 1/400 of a second
Solo Backpacking
Before I jump off into my next adventure, I wanted to share at least one glimpse of my last one. I went through three mountain passes in two national parks, camping in a wilderness area in between. It was absolutely beautiful and very quiet besides the soft clucking of a white tailed ptarmigan near my campsite.
For anyone trying to reach me in the next month, I will be out of cell range for the entire month so my next chance to get back to you will be in September.
Taken in the White Goat Wilderness Area.
24mm, f11, 5 seconds
Evening Hikes
I tend to go for a lot of evening hikes, walks, and runs. They require a different sort of planning than mid-day outings. They require an being aware of the terrain you've traveled over and knowing the directions to get back to your starting point in the dark. They require a headlamp and extra batteries in your pack. But if you're prepared, an evening walk is a stress-free adventure. Often, right before sunset and at sunset is when animals are most active – having a final evening snack and finding a place to settle down for the night. Watching the sun set and the stars finally getting their chance to shine, watching the world slowly slip in darkness and stillness – it's a peaceful, beautiful and exciting time.
Taken near Grey Whale Cove State Beach, California
12mm, f9, 1/125 of a second
A Month of Camping
This last month has been full of trips for me – a couple weeks of backpacking near Abraham Lake and a canoe trip down the North Saskatchewan. They've been unusual trips for me though. Instead of the normal peaceful quiet of nature I was in the middle of roaring stoves, surrounded by laughing, yelling, talking, and singing students.
Despite the dramatic departure from my usual outdoor experiences, I really enjoyed these trips and the people who made them what they were. The few nights where I had the energy left to stay up into the night were my little oasis of quiet in these busy and fun-filled trips. Thanks to all my fellow leaders and travelers who made these trips memorable!


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Baghdad (AFP) Dec 21, 2011
Iraq's government marked its first anniversary Wednesday in turmoil as its Sunni vice president disputed charges he ran a hit squad and the US urged calm in a row that has heightened sectarian tensions.
A year after Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's unity government was approved by MPs, Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi has holed up in the northern Kurdish region as authorities issued a warrant for his arrest, a Sunni deputy premier faces the sack, and the main Sunni bloc has boycotted cabinet and parliament.
All this comes just days after US troops completed their withdrawal from the country, leaving behind what US President Barack Obama described as a "sovereign, stable, and self-reliant Iraq."
But on Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden held a telephone call with Maliki, urging him to work with other parties to resolve the worsening crisis that threatens Iraq's fragile political truce.
Biden spoke by phone with Maliki and with parliament speaker Osama al-Nujaifi "to discuss the current political climate in Baghdad," the White House said.
"The vice president told both leaders that the United States is monitoring events in Iraq closely," it added.
Biden also "stressed the urgent need for the prime minister and the leaders of the other major blocs to meet and work through their differences together."
The State Department in Washington, meanwhile, called for Iraq to conduct Hashemi's investigation "in accordance with international legal norms and full respect for Iraqi law."
US officials also confirmed Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus, the former US military commander credited with containing sectarian violence in Iraq, had paid a visit to Baghdad in recent days.
But they said it was a previously scheduled trip to Iraq and Afghanistan and that Petraeus was not engaged in political talks in Baghdad.
Hashemi, meanwhile, held a defiant news conference in the Kurdish regional capital Arbil, denying the charges laid against him and vowing to face them off in court.
"I swear to God that I never committed a sin when it comes to Iraqi blood," he told reporters on Tuesday. "I suggest transferring the case to Kurdistan. On this basis, I will be ready to face trial."
He called for representatives of the Arab League to take part in the investigation and any questioning, and said apparent confessions aired on state television linking him to attacks were "false" and "politicised".
Officials issued the warrant for Hashemi's arrest on Monday, after earlier banning him from travelling overseas.
At least 13 of the vice president's bodyguards have been detained in recent weeks, security officials have said, although it was unclear how many remain in custody.
Hashemi's office said only three were arrested, and has complained of "intentional harassment" in the form of blockade of his home by security forces for several weeks, as well as other incidents.
Maliki and other leaders have called for talks to resolve the political crisis, but the premier's spokesman told AFP he would not accept any mediation over the charges against Hashemi.
"The prime minister will not compromise the blood of Iraqis, no matter what the price," Ali Mussawi said.
Maliki has also called for Deputy Prime Minister Saleh al-Mutlak, like Hashemi a Sunni Arab and a member of the Iraqiya bloc, to be sacked after Mutlak said the premier was "worse than Saddam Hussein".
Lawmakers are due to consider Maliki's request to fire Mutlak on January 3.
Iraqiya said it would boycott the cabinet to protest against Maliki's "dictatorship," although it has not pulled out of the government.
The bloc, which holds 82 of the 325 seats in parliament and controls nine ministerial posts, had earlier said it was suspending its participation in the legislature.
Iraqiya, which garnered most of its support from the Sunni minority and emerged with the most seats in March 2010 elections, was out-manoeuvred for the premiership by Maliki who finished second in the polls but subsequently broadened his power base by striking a deal with another faction.
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About Group's third album Between The Walls finds them in fine form. They've managed to get a better feel for each other's abilities and this has allowed for a more cohesive project than their last.
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History-making string quartet set to perform in Grass Valley
January 17, 2013
WHO: InConcert Sierra presents
WHAT: The Marian Anderson String Quartet
WHEN: 2 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 20, with a 1:15 p.m. pre-concert forum
WHERE: Seventh-day Adventist Church, 12889 Osborne Hill Road, Grass Valley
TICKETS: $26 general, Youth ages 5-17 free with adult available at BriarPatch Co-op; Nevada City Box Office at Miners Foundry;
online at http://www.inconcertsierra.org; or call (530) 273-3990
When the Marian Anderson String Quartet came together in September 1989, the group had no idea it would make history just three years later in winning the International Cleveland Quartet Competition, becoming the first African American ensemble to win a classical music competition.
The quartet, named for the great contralto Marian Anderson, will perform at 2 p.m. Sunday in Grass Valley. The Quartet's distinguished history includes performances throughout the United States and abroad, including the San Luis Obispo Mozart Festival and the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center. In 1993, the Marian Anderson String Quartet performed at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., as part of the 52nd presidential inaugural celebration. The Marian Anderson String Quartet has also been on the faculty of numerous universities throughout the country.
"I was intrigued when I first ran across the MASQ by their story and their championing the music of African American composers. I was delighted upon listening to them to find that they are truly an accomplished performance ensemble," says Ken Hardin, artistic director.
Appropriately scheduled this weekend preceding Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday and the inauguration of the president, the program includes the works of William Grant Still, known as the "Dean of African-American composers." He enjoyed a career with many "firsts": the first Afro-American to have a symphony performed by a major orchestra, the first to conduct a major orchestra (the Los Angeles Philharmonic) and the first to have an opera televised on a national network, among others, according to program notes by Aileen James.
Also on the program will be works by Coleridge-Taylor Perkinson. Amongst his many works for film and television scores, he wrote the music for the documentary "From Montgomery to Memphis," honoring the life of Dr. King. Perkinson referred to his compositional style as "written improvisation," and today's artists will precede his quartet with the spiritual "calvary" upon which his music is based.
"This is an especially fine program," says musicologist and pre-concert forum hostess Aileen James. "I have performed the music of William Grant Still, and I am looking forward to hearing the Marian Anderson String Quartet."
The concert is sponsored by the Porter family in memory of Virginia Porter and B&C True Value Home and Garden Center.
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45 Years Ago: Fleetwood Mac Play 'Future Games'
'Future Games' saw Bob Welch and Christine McVie join Fleetwood Mac.
'Future Games' saw Bob Welch and Christine McVie join Fleetwood Mac.
It all comes down to Stevie Nicks.
Fleetwood Mac's last No. 1 studio album, 1982's 'Mirage,' will be released as a three-disc expanded deluxe edition this summer.
They've gone on to far greater success in the years since releasing their first few albums, but for some Fleetwood Mac fans, there's really never been any substitute for the band's original lineup.
Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham played live with Fleetwood Mac for first time on May 15, 1975.
Guitar great and Fleetwood Mac founder Peter Green was not a man without troubles, and on Jan. 26, 1977, his struggles landed him in prison and committed to a mental hospital.
A case of the stomach flu to the drummer caused the band to abandon their concert on Jan. 17.
With Christine McVie back in the lineup and a new album reportedly in the works, Fleetwood Mac got 'On With the Show' last night, starting their latest tour in front of 17,000 fans at Minneapolis' Target Center.
Let's review the things that 'Tonight Show' host Jimmy Fallon loves. He loves stars and music and vintage things and trucks (that last one might not apply here) and he loves nostalgia and silliness and having some seriously good-natured fun with all of those things. Obviously, the man loves Stevie Nicks. Who doesn't?
Now that Christine McVie is finally back in the Fleetwood Mac fold, she admits she's been wanting to rejoin the band for quite some time.
Bon Jovi, the Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac were among the Top 10 money makers for 2013, based on touring, music sales, publishing royalties and streaming revenue for the past year.
Fleetwood Mac fans have waited nearly 30 years for the band's classic 'Rumours'-era lineup to record a new studio album. If recent reports are accurate, it looks like their wait might finally be almost over.


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Livermore 13 Cinemas opened Friday, December 15, 2006. It boasts stunning architecture, all stadium seating and new DLP digital progection. Several of the auditoriums feature THX sound as well.
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Joe Vogel on April 13, 2012 at 3:40 am
The Livermore 13 Cinemas was designed by the Seattle firm The Henry Architects. Their cinema projects slide show features three photos of the Livermore 13.
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Mark Leicester wrote: >Hello, > >I am writing some Cocoon components to deal with MIDI file (generator and serializer), that I would like to make available at some stage if they are wanted. > Sure they're wanted, as long as you're willing to donate them ! >In my normal course of development I create JUnit tests (ok, I admit this is a recent 'normal'; I've only recently seen the light). Where should I put my test classes? For example, I am creating an o.a.c.generation.MIDIGenerator, at moment. I have put my TestMIDIGenerator class into o.a.c.test.generation. Is that sensible? Do you have any other preferred suggestions? I see that the Chaperon block includes some unit tests, but otherwise they are not widely implemented. Is the widespread use of JUnit tests desirable? If so, in due course I'd like create unit tests for other Cocoon components too. > JUnit tests are more than desirable, and if we don't have much of them, it's because we're lazy butts. So if you want to contribute some, this is a very welcomed effort. >I've been lurking on the lists for a long time. I introduced Cocoon 2.0 into my company's development team back in 2001. Now, regrettably, the consensus reached in my company with respect to web application frameworks is that the Struts approach is simpler and more robust. Rather than it having been a Cocoon vs. Struts argument, this decision had more to do with many of our developers' preferences for Java data structures over XML, e.g. "too many layers = bad performance", "XML makes coding unnecessarily complex" etc. As you may have experienced in your own working lives, these sorts of arguments can cripple progress in a small team environment so I have reluctantly ceded Cocoon and XML from the core of our information strategy. > Sad, but well-known story... The advent of flowscript and Woody will leave little room for Struts, feature-wise. Now that's true that Cocoon is a big beast that takes long to master. Only after this one can see the incredible benefits in brings. >On the plus side this means that now I realise that the best way to continue to work with Cocoon, which I love dearly and see a great future for, is to contribute directly to the main Cocoon development effort. I hope I can help! > Every contribution is welcome, and yours is definitely on the creative side that makes Cocoon like no other software: are there other frameworks on earth that can both connect to SAP and produce MIDI files at the same time ? Sylvain (waiting to listen to Cocoon music ;-) -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
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"If you do those things, then with your ability, your talent will get a chance to help our team and you're be in position to play as much as you want to play."
Donovan didn't want to have a conversation to make Rosario feel good about want to return to Gainesville the same player. He demanded change. If that change didn't happen, Rosario could play with his same lack of defensive effort and bad practice habits at another program.
Rosario missed 25 practices and five games last season. Some of the reasons were legitimate. There were injuries that kept him from practicing that needed rest. Other times, it was Rosario who made the call that his nagging injuries were too much to push through. In their four-year careers, Erving Walker and Kenny Boynton only missed one practice a piece.
While they were on the floor going through lengthy practices, Rosario was watching. He was waiting for his smaller injuries to heal, and then when game time rolled around, he couldn't understand why he wasn't on the floor.
Donovan was quick to answer. His consistency on and off the floor wasn't there.
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Rosario spent the offseason playing with the Puerto Rican national team around professionals like Carlos Arroyo and J.J. Barea. It changed his outlook on the game and his habits on the practice court. He got to see how successful professionals worked.
The conversation with Donovan had already sold Rosario on his new work ethic. Once practices began, he wanted to showcase a new player.
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This year has been different. Rosario isn't just contributing — he's dominating. He's shooting well from the floor, averaging 12.5 points per game. That's not where the change is most noticeable.
He's a different player on the defensive end of the floor.
The Gators have built this year's team around defense. There are experienced players all over the court that know what Donovan's teams want to do. They understand the press and have tormented teams with it so far this year while running out to a 14-2 record and 4-0 start to SEC play.
There are talented individual defenders on the team. Scottie Wilbekin and Kenny Boynton are good defenders on the perimeter and Patric Young is a strong, talented body in the paint. But no one expected to see Rosario's name involved in those playing good defense. He has never been a positive for a team's defense in his college career.
That was a prerequisite of buying into what the Gators are doing on the floor. He had to defend and bring energy when his team didn't have the ball. And he's holding his own so far this year.
"It's been incredible for me to just have that mindset on just locking in on the defensive end, and I feel like I feed off that positive energy from Casey, Kenny, Pat, Will and Scottie," Rosario said. "Those are our best defenders. I'm the next guy that they need to buy in on the defensive end, and I feel like I've been taking on that challenge and I'm embracing it."
Embracing the challenge and continuing to embrace it are two different things. Through 16 games this season, Rosario has responded exactly how Donovan wanted him to. He's taking good shots, playing good defense and creating offense for his teammates. The challenge now becomes continuing to do that.
He hasn't shown that ability yet in college. Rosario was mostly a scorer during his time at Rutgers, and with the Florida team being built around a strong defense, Donovan is pressuring him to keep up a high level of intensity.
""I'm not so sure Mike's ever done this for an entire year in college, so we've obviously got a long way to go," Donovan said.
The turnaround hasn't been hard to notice on the practice floor, in the locker room and the weight room. His teammates have seen a different player, and it's translated to the court during games.
"His mental focus," Murphy said. "He comes in every day and works. He's been great coming in working every day. He's been in the weight room a little extra, just trying to get his body right. He's in there taking care of his body every day. His mental focus is pretty much him wanting to do everything he can to be the best he can."
The results are matching the effort for Rosario. That's a big part of why the season has been so enjoyable for the redshirt senior, but he's mostly excited about how the team is doing. The Gators head into this week ranked No. 8 in the country and have a 14-2 record while serving as the favorite to with the Southeastern Conference.
That's why Rosario left Rutgers after two years. He wanted to be a part of a winning program. In his final year, he's having the season that he transferred to Florida to be a part of.
"Me personally, I'm having so much fun," Rosario said. "Like words can't even explain how hard we work as a team. We go out there every day and just leave it on the line. We sacrifice for one another. That's one thing I like about this team."


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1. Re: Is Splitting of Batches Possible814193 Sep 8, 2011 7:58 AM (in response to user177075)Yes you may use multiple products/Finished goods for in one recipe.
2. Re: Is Splitting of Batches Possible869541 Nov 15, 2011 7:40 AM (in response to user177075)HI
Are you using one batch for making Syrup and bottling or two separate batches?
3. Re: Is Splitting of Batches Possiblesivaraman govindarajan Nov 19, 2011 1:37 PM (in response to user177075)Hello John,
May i know whether you follow lot numbering for your FG. If so if the lot definition is divisible then it will allow spliting at the time of FG issue.
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In your recipe there should be two sizes bottle as ingredient and 2 types product as 300 ml syrp and 500 ml syrm bottle.so when u create ur batch and complete that batch u can easily specify what number of 300/500 ml bottle will be produce in a single batch.
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Kirstie Allsopp in twitter row with NCT(183 Posts)
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what do you think about this?
Personally I think my NCT class covered C-sections very well, though there was an emphasis on 'natural' birth through-out the course. I was glad of the C-Section info when I was signing papers for the possibility, though in the end didn't need one.
Sadly my experience (Midwives not checkinghow dilated I was, No gas and Air for ages, Having waters broken, Spinal at 10 cm dilated, episiotomy and so on) has made me wonder if I would want to attempt a more natural birth next time - I am worried that I will be too scared to try.
Do you think she is right though, are women who have C-sections being made to feel like failures?
When I had my first dc in a MLU, the midwife who had delivered my baby was siting chatting to me 24 hours later during a night feed (yes- they had TIME to sit and chat and be supportive there!) She chatted about her previous job in the large district hospital which I would have gone to if I hadn't booked into the MLU. She told me how much more rewarding it was to work in the MLU, how midwives were allowed to get on with their specialised role of supporting women in labour without the numerous pressures in a bustling hospital. Her only disappointment about the role was that more women didn't choose to deliver there. A lot of mums transferred (as fast as possible) after delivering in hospital but she really wished more women realised that for a normal pregnancy, the MLU was a really good option, with a 100% safety record.
A big part of it was down to the NCT that I made that choice, Because the focus on non invasive pain relief helped me feel confident that I could cope. At the end of the day, the majority of births could be like that.
I'm not viewing it through rose tinted specs- it was a long painful labour but I was well supported by my midwife which is key
A final word: if kirstie Allsop needed csections to save her babies lives then why on earth would she feel bad about it? IME the cases where women feel negative about interventions like CS or forceps or epidural is when they realise their experience could have been different. No way are a quarter of births in the UK medically necessary as CS (in some hospitals nearer 50%). There is a world of difference between a life saving intervention and one which actually could have been avoided.
I think IrnBru, you'll find that the majority of women already know LONG before they attend antenatal classes that many, many mums have emergency c/s, forceps and ventouse deliveries.
Shag I was actually referring to the most common types of 'worse case scenarios' as in the types of births, i.e. you don't always get the birth you want that you've dreamed of on your birth plan.
IrnBru - 'worse case' scenarios would include a mother in ICU or dead. Three women died in the space of 12 weeks in my local hospital in 2011. Substandard care was found to be a contributing factor in two of the deaths. I've observed a good few NHS classes and I've yet to witness a midwife acknowledging that some women will get suboptimal care, which may impact on their experience of the birth and the mode of birth. And yet when this very important issue is acknowledged in NCT classes the NCT is accused of being anti-doctor and also, perversely, for being idealistic about birth.
Never been to NCT classes so cannot comment on what they are like. I do think it is covered brilliantly by the NHS classes though (well, the ones I attended were covered extremely well by the midwife taking them, with various speakers too). We had lots of 'worse case scenario' type advice. I wanted real advice, the gritty kind.
"No, I don't think the NCT is scary. Dogmatic? A bit, despite protestations. Political? A bit, yep. More so with every year."
What, political because it's raising a protest about the rising tide of caesarean sections and emergency intervention in birth? And because of it campaigns for women to have more choices in birth and better care?
Too damn right it's political when it comes to these issues, and thank FUCK that someone is flagging this issue up and not just standing to one side while increasing numbers of women are traumatised by bad care.
And FWIW - the Royal College of Midwives make vastly more noise than the NCT about the importance of normal birth to women and babies. Actually they've set up a whole website to promote normal birth: here
"Together, we can change the way childbirth happens. The Campaign aims to inspire and support normal birth practice. It's a reminder that good birth experiences can happen despite the challenges. Intervention and caesarean shouldn't be the first choice - they should be the last."
(from the RCM website. Imagine if the NCT had that statement on their website, what a hammering they would get!)
And given that this is the case - why the hell isn't the RCM being demonised for guilt tripping women who have medicalised births, or who choose not to breastfeed?"
Why is it only the NCT who is being hammered for voicing EXACTLY the same concerns as the RCM?
"My midwife friend told me that the NCT often sets people up for disappointment and that she has had to comfort too many women over the years who view pain relief as failure and having a c-section as abnormal rather than lifesaving."
I know a couple of midwives who slag the NCT off for setting women up with unrealistic expectations which are then disappointed. These midwives work in a setting where women are often getting suboptimal care. Far better to slag the NCT off (when actually they usually have NO IDEA what the woman has been told as regards pain relief) than accept their much, much more important role in women's disappointing experiences of labour.
never felt the need to go to ante natal classes so cant omment on that,but i think he only people who make women feel guilty are other women.
Have answered your PM, GreenEggs
I'm glad NCT is political, BTW. What's wrong with that? Support for new parents involves campaigning, contact with government and policy drivers; it needs a clear focus and sound thinking about what is needed in order for parents to be supported. You want better paternity leave? You want more and better midwifery? You think women should have good facilities at work to enable them to express milk? And so on.
You have to get your hands in the political pie to be listened to and to effect change.
I've sent you a PM because I don't actually want to discuss specifics publically.
I will say that I haven't read every single comment the woman has made, so I should back off when I say I agree with everything. No, I don't think the NCT is scary. Dogmatic? A bit, despite protestations. Political? A bit, yep. More so with every year.
I support my local group because it's a terrific group and I think it's important to support new parents. I think the group facilitates friendships and support at an important stage of our lives. I know that my friends here feel the same- they're here for the friendships they've made, and it's nice that they're helping a charity along the way.
I'm well aware of the work the NCT does in other areas. But there's a big middle ground between support for refugees and teen mother groups and where the antenatal courses are. I think a lot of people would just like a course with practical tips, one which doesn't assume you've already done all your homework on the subject.
Anyway. You're right, there's a lot more to it than what I've said here. But I thought it was worth noting the reactions to these courses that I've heard. They've all come from people who didn't attend the same course, and have no agenda attached. Kirstie's managed a whole heap of publicity from this. I honestly didn't know who she was before this week.
I might also just be feeling very negatively at the moment so I should say again, I don't think the NCT is scary. I think at a local level they do some amazing things, especially the specialist workers. However, I don't agree with everything the head office does (will not be going into specifics here), but I don't think that's different from any other organisation.
GreenEggs, NCT offers several different courses already - NCT 'classic' courses are only one type. NCT teachers and breastfeeding counsellors work in many settings - clinics, maternity units, surestart, prisons, refuges, teenage mother groups, etc. You may not be aware of this - they are not, in many cases, badged as NCT classes.
NCT is training 'Pregnancy Birth and Beyond' practitioners, who are teachers who will facilitate a further type of course. The first classes will become available in a year or so's time when the first cohort of PBB practitioners start practising after qualifying with the University of Worcester. This will be yet another type of course, and is likely to be free of charge for most (because the courses will be commissioned by NHS, Childrens Centres, other agencies).
The only real criticism in your post is that you have heard from a number of women that they did not find the caesarean section education positive. You feel that is what NCT gets wrong - and it appears that some women would agree (a small minority - stats show that 87 per cent of clients find the information gets it 'about right'). I think NCT should continue to strive to get it right for everyone - it's not good if people feel any aspect of the course frightens them, and I know this debate is continually had within NCT. How to be realistic, how to support confidence, how to share information, in a way that parents to be find useful and empowering....it's not easy to get right.
You agree with KA that NCT is politicised, scary and dogmatic? Why would you want to volunteer for such an organisation? You have made friends, through the activities and events set up and supported by it - yet you think it is politicised, scary and dogmatic? Honestly? Just because of this difficulty you have experienced second hand about the way caesarean section is presented? There must be more to it than this.
I'm an active volunteer in my local NCT branch. I have made many friends through various activities sponsored by the organisation.
I agree with Kirstie.
I will also stress, before I say what I'm going to say, that I am very aware that NCT courses vary from region to region.
I realise some people think the C-section roleplay is informative, however I have heard from many people who attended our local courses who felt it was negative. Labour = all very natural and lovely and something to experience, but C-section = frightening, surrounded by strangers with lots of wires hooked up to you. Another complaint I've heard several times (keep in mind, all from people who do not know each other, and not prompted by me at all) was that the courses were too much about how they "felt" about being pregnant, or going into labour, rather than the practicalities of it. I can't comment on these beyond this is what I've heard from many people who have struck up conversations with me regarding the NCT, because they know about my activity with the charity.
My antenatal course (not NCT) featured: specifics about labour, practicalities of what to expect during the process of calling the hospital, checking in, and even a map with directions from one hospital to another (because the main hospital in the city has closed many times over the last year, she was letting us know to be prepared to be sent to the other hospital). Then of course a lot of detail about labour and different forms of pain relief. Feeding, she stressed breast feeding, but was able to talk about bottle feeding (which is so important- statistics show a number of people choose to bottle feed, why leave them at the mercy of their mother's instructions on how to prepare a bottle? Formula has changed since we were children and it can't be prepared in advance the way she did it!) (and no, I didn't formula feed- no doubt someone will care about that...) etc etc.
Now, yes, different people want different things from their antenatal courses. But I think the NCT needs to look into offering different courses. We're constantly stressing how we want to reach everyone (read: younger mums, not the typical NCT middle class 30+ yr old mum) but if we want to reach everyone then we need to offer classes which get back to basics regarding pregnancy and labour. The NCT courses now sound like they mostly appeal to women who have already done a great deal of research on their own and would like to supplement that. (or simply to meet other new mums, let's face it, that's a driving factor for many!)
Honestly, I've had a look at her Twitter feed, and I've yet to find something I disagree with. I was disappointed with the reaction from the head office. Why immediately go on the defensive? Yes, they're also inviting people to give feedback on their courses, but the overwhelming feeling is that of "let's protect the NCT from this negative publicity."
It's quite timely, actually. I've heard a number of casual complaints from acquaintances over the last few months, and I encouraged them to give feedback to people who matter more than myself. Most of them don't, or won't, because they just can't be bothered as they're done with their course, made the friends they wanted, and are immersed in newborn nappies.
I hope no one takes my comments personally. The longer I am involved with the organisation, the more jaded I feel about certain aspects of it.
No, I didn't think you were literally 'outraged', Balloon, hence my icon.
You did find it hilarious, in the sense of risible, though, and I thought an explanation/other POV was called for. Hope you found it helpful.
I hope your meant you didn't mean the "outraged" comment, tiktok, - to clarify, I thought it was hilarious.
I've only had caesareans, although I did have some labour with DC1, and although I feel that NCT classes should cover caesareans to an extent, and certainly not overlook the topic as some have suggested they do, I really don't think that they need "preparing for" to anything like the degree labour and vaginal births do.
balloon, nct classes do use activities and involve 'things' to enable easier, more direct and effective learning. It's a respected pedagogical approach, well-evidenced, for adults as well as children. It does not need to be infantalising, as your outraged reply suggests
I'd say this though: if people prefer sitting in rows watching a power point 'presentation' with a lecture-style trainer, and no interaction, and of course some people do, they'd find nct classes to be rather different from this.
Iirc we did a class on vaginal birth and a class on c section. All balanced, the teacher was sensible and just wanted everyone's baby to be born safely.
There was also a breast feeding class. I am not sure if there was anything on ff in the next class because I missed the rest of the classes as I got complications of pg.
Message withdrawn at poster's request.
tiktok - i know you would never tolerate that in your groups.
she went to the groups for a support network and for help with latching or anything else she was having problems with and had missed - she really did try everything to get him to feed well. she also was recommended to go there by the people who sorted out his tongue-tie, to get support for persevering and help with the tongue exercises etc.
the CMPI thing came later.
Xenia - it wasn't an NCT one, i don't think. i was just commenting on those who were saying that formula feeders have no place in a BFing group. my friend did, because she was trying to reduce the FF and do BF, but she was treated like she didn't belong and that she was evil for FFing.
nickel, I had thought your post was going to end - she went to the group and someone told her how you can get someone to cut under the tongue to remove the tongue tie so she could feed well. Sorry it was so bad but most people do find NCT classes terribly helpful. Well worth joining as are La Leche League and other groups for those breastfeeding.
The NCT has never (even when I had my first children in the 80s or even when my mother went in the 60s) ever just been on about natural birth. Classes always describe all kinds of birth. No one ever classes someone who as a C section or bottle feeds as a failure. Having children is not about failing, mind you perhaps I have always been insulated from the issues raised because I went back to work full time at 2 weeks so never really was with other mothers or groups in that sense once the babies came so managed to avoid over 30 years things like school gate chat, other mothers and the like- lucky me.
Sorry but snnnoooooooooort at They role play CS and have a game with playmobil people showing how crowded the room can become.
But I thought NCT classes are for grown ups?
Seriously, why do you need to "role play" lying completely still on a table?
And are people genuinely unable to understand the verbal information: "the operating theatre can get quite crowded when you have a CS" without recourse to little plastic dollies?
nickel, there is never any good reason for being unkind, or nasty, or making any individual woman feel uncomfortable. I hope your friend complained about this.
Breastfeeding support groups are not the best place to get clinical assessments of things like CMPI - the clue is in the name. They support breastfeeding in a social sense, but they are not geared up to fix breastfeeding problems. They're fine on basic physiology and practical stuff, and they should refer on if something is beyond that. If there is anyone to refer to....
The trouble is, there is insufficient knowledge about the clinical aspects of feeding babies and mothers end up at support groups 'cos there is nowhere else to go, and no one else to see. They may even be referred to the support group by an HCP, and go there with expectations that underlying medical issues will be i) spotted and ii) fixed
What you are describing is the sort of unpleasant judgmental response I have seen everywhere in my experience as a mother - the toddler group where no one speaks to you, the group where people mutter about someone with a child going through a difficult phase, the schoolgates mafia. Some people are just not nice....but with a group that has some sort of outside funding, branding, support or management, there is always the possibility of making a complaint, so things can change.
now, i actually disagree with the breastfeeding/formula feeding groups issue raised here.
My friend had huge problems BFing her 5th - he was tongue tied and had failure to thrive etc etc.
he also turned out to have CMPI (friend only found out because she is herself and had started to eat dairy to see if she was okay with it, and DS reacted badly to it)
she had been mix feeding because after trying everything he was still not thriving. she went along to one of those BF support groups and had to feed him with formula while she was there and they were really really nasty to her about it. and she was asked to leave.
even though she had gone there to get help with her BFing problems.
Bolder dash and piffle!
Sorry Kirsty, but I know several NCT teachers. They role play CS and have a game with playmobil people showing how crowded the room can become.
Reasons for CS, forceps, ventouse etc are discussed as are all forms of pain relief.
Yes the classes are aimed at empowering women and their partners to try for the birth they want, but they are also aimed at giving you the tools to understand the birth you got.
personally, I can't remember if CS were mentioned in the first, set of NCT classes 15 years ago, but they were in the second.
Ten years later my NCT group still meet up occasionally.
I can't remember everyone's birth story's now, there were CSs and excitements and one very laid back home birth.
However, I cheated I was the only second time mum
Some FF and some BF, no one judged (I certainly didn't as I have had DDs who been absolute polar opposites about feeding).
Knowing each other this long, the baby stuff really became irrelevant, we were just friends chattering about life, bringing up toddlers, then returning to work, having siblings and choosing schools.
Won't be long before we are worrying about BFs
brettgirl, some women who are breastfeeding need a safe space where they will not be criticised, undermined or made to feel odd, crazy, selfish or exhibitionist. I work with women whose breastfeeding is fragile, who want to bf, but who are undermined at every turn in doing it. A breastfeeding support group for them is a lifeline....they don't feel 'uncomfortable' with women formula feeding, but some breastfeeding support groups do have a general rule that they are for breastfeeding women and formula feeding women sharing this space is undermining for them. You may disagree with this, or think it is 'weird', but that's the way it is.
I don't think all breastfeeding support groups should be closed to formula feeders, but I understand why some are.
Home birth on the website: the topic is known to be a popular choice not solely from it being on the front page but mainly from google searches - that's part of the way websites track their traffic. People search home birth and come to the nct website that way.
NCT is a charity, whose remit is education for parenthood. It is focussed on services to parents, and training for people to deliver those services. A small but important part of its work is campaigning. It has no funds to support research of the sort you are asking for, and would be acting outside its legal charity boundaries if it worked in this way.
Tiktok exactly you want to support all which is why the breastfeeding as opposed to infant feeding is odd. Why would someone breastfeeding be uncomfortable in 'mixed' company, just weird.
As Horatia says they are not working hard enough not to alienate. You may think I' m stupid/ mad/ badly informed or whatever but I' m not alone in my perceptions.
Low risk pregnancy is the only type where mw led units and hb is even relevant. I agree conception not direct to NCT but in terms of everything going as we want it is another source of failure for women, perhaps not entirely relevant.
Strongly disagree that the information on epidural is balanced. I could come up with a more helpful list of advantages myself. HB is probably more popular purely because there are more pages thus it stays on the front!!!
Perhaps if the NCT funded further research in areas where it is desperately needed I would have more faith. If that's not what they are about then I probably never will.
When I first became pregnant I got a lot of conflicting advice about whether or not to take NCT classes. A few of my friends had taken the class and loved the social aspect but weren't particularly bothered by the info, in fact their description was reminiscent of an exclusive match making service! Another close friend who has been a midwife for over 10 years told me NOT to attend and to spend my money on a weekend away with my husband. My midwife friend told me that the NCT often sets people up for disappointment and that she has had to comfort too many women over the years who view pain relief as failure and having a c-section as abnormal rather than lifesaving.
I decided to take the classes for a number of reasons, among them was helping my busy husband to be better informed so that he wouldn't feel too bewildered in the delivery room. In fact he came out feeling like they hadn't taught him a thing and compared it to a gcse biology lesson.
By the time the NCT classes rolled around, we had a very stuck very breech little girl and had been scheduled for a c-section. We played along with all the role play and the info sessions thinking surely they will get to the c-section bit soon...towards the end of the session it was clear that all we were getting was a glossed over mention. Another couple who were also in the same boat as us have since become very firm friends of ours. We all felt that it isn't the information itself it's the way it's presented. Each NCT teacher clearly has their own teaching style and emphasis on what they feel to be important but it clearly wasn't c-sections or pain relief in our case. In fact at one point epidurals were completely demonized.
The breastfeeding session was also held (for the teachers convenience) in a small village 40 minutes away by car (we don't drive) rather than in the large city we live in. We were unable to attend and I was given very short shrift for complaining about the location. Customer service not the nct's strong point.
The day before my scheduled c-sec my baby turned...then I was 12 days overdue...I was induced...spent 24 hours in labour and finally had an emcs. I had done a lot of research myself but I still felt uninformed but very lucky to come out with a healthy baby and am alive me. Why my nct felt the need to ignore a lifesaving procedure which saved me and my baby i will never understand. I wrote several emails about my concerns but never got a reply. I wish I'd spent that money on a babymoon!
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