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I just spent 3 hours trying to troubleshoot a windows 7 install that had a number of OS issues. After no luck I went through a re-install of the OS and applications which took about an hour. How long do you wait before you go for the re-install or re-image?
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Oct 4, 2011 at 7:58 UTC
I won't spend more than 1 hour. After that, re-image. My software is all installed through GPO, so I just need to log on and let it do it's thing.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:03 UTC
I give it a few tries.. usually not more than an hour or two hours total.. anything more than that, I just re-image the box, as it becomes cost-prohibitive to troubleshoot versus re-image & get the user back up & productive
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:04 UTC
Usually about 2 hours. It depends largely on what the user does, how complex is their setup, do I have a loaner laptop or desktop for them to use in the meantime, etc.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:07 UTC
Pittsburgh Computer Solutions is an IT service provider.
Depending on the user it will be one of 3 options:
1. Immediately and tell them they have made the mistake of not saving to the network
2. After 1 hour of troubleshooting; give them time to transfer everything to the network and then image
3. Never(almost)....this is only the case for certain individuals who are a living HELL to set back up with AutoCAD and all the various features. Unless it is a blue screen or something that CANNOT be resolved through every troubleshooting step I can think of.
This works well for us as we have several tiers of employees who work on various projects from Crucial ($100+million) to working the front desk and not having any special requirements.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:07 UTC
Niagara Technology Group (NTG) is an IT service provider.
One hour is a good limit. Consider how much time it takes to reinstall and get everything back and working. You should never, ever go over or even come close to that time. A clean rebuild has many long term benefits and is basically a sure thing. Troubleshooting close to an equivalent amount of time means that problems may still exist and it means that you were taking a risk that you were not going to find the problem leaving you with the full cost of rebuilding twice or more (once for troubleshooting and failing and once for actually rebuilding.)
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:10 UTC
If the fix takes longer than 15 minutes I swap out the box and work on it up to about an hour before I re-image it. If it is less than 15 minutes I just fix it right then an there.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:12 UTC
When I worked at a very large corp, the rule in IT was 10 minutes, if you can't fix it in 10, ask for help or rebuild. They were large enough to have computers imaged and ready to go and everything across the board was standardized so it wasn't much to swap and then take the machine back to try and troubleshoot.
Not ideal for every organization but it worked well there.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:15 UTC
The IT Girl is an IT service provider.
Ditto on the 1 hour. One hour was also the cap I teach people I'm training. If you hack at something for an hour and get nowhere, it's totally ok to man up and ask for help (or just reload the OS, as the case may be.).
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:17 UTC
I stop when I get fed up or run out of things to try.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:18 UTC
Depends on the problem. We're a small company, so I don't have a ton of spares laying around, and people tend to have a ton on their machines. Some of the engineering software they use takes a while to reinstall which adds to the rebuild time.
For a weird Windows problem, I'll stick at it for an hour or two to see if I can get it. A nasty virus or spyware will probably get nuked immediately with little to no cleanup effort.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:19 UTC
Depends on what it's running, if it's standard software like Office then an hour or so, if it's running some factory software or other then we can spend upto a day because the process of moving that software will usually be a lot more complex.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:20 UTC
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I'd agree with the ~1 hour max. You'll most likely know after 30 minutes whether you can fix the problem or not.. Sometimes the troubleshooter in me wants to find the cause for future reference but imaging and/or reinstalling is a sure thing...
If you're working for smaller businesses without standardized systems, apps on terminal servers, imaging software, etc you may bump that up to 1.5-2 hours since a format reinstall can be a monumental task on some PCs.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:31 UTC
Once I spend a couple hours trying to troubleshoot, or if the problem reappears more than twice, time for a wipe/reload.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:35 UTC
Depends on mood and the kind of issue. But generally never more than hour unless it becomes personal
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:35 UTC
It depends. If it's a problem I think I may end up seeing more of in the future, then I will work on it for a few hours so that the next time I will know how to fix it quickly (if it can be). Or if it is a complicated user/build I will spend a lot of time on it. Outside of that, I give it about an hour then I rebuild it. As Scott pointed out, a nice clean rebuild has many benefits and can also solve other issues that the user has not even reported.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:37 UTC
Chestnut Consulting is an IT service provider.
Around 20 minutes into something. Reimage takes us 15 minutes.
Oct 4, 2011 at 8:43 UTC
I'm down with the one hour limit. I may (if I have time) keep fighting the issue after I've gotten them a new machine (we run Citrix here so that's pretty easy to swap them out and I have a handful of spares ready to go). I have enough other projects that my time is kinda precious and 1 hour is the most I'll usually waste that way.
Oct 4, 2011 at 9:02 UTC
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thankfully, i have never had to re-install a win7 box...yet.
but for the sake of learning win7, i give every problem 10 minutes.
if it's one of those "WTF" kinda problems, then i'll immediately google.
i usually get a good hit in 3 tries or less.
if i ever dont, then i'll resort to re-imaging.
i don't think i will ever spend an hour trying to troubleshoot an os issue.
Oct 4, 2011 at 9:40 UTC
I, too, have never had an "OS problem" with Windows 7 yet(knocks on wood). The only issues I've had so far pertained to 32-bit vs 64-bit, drivers, and hardware problems. I feel so spoiled with Windows 7. XP is a distant memory for me now.
There really is no rule of thumb for me here because we're a relatively small company at around 140+ users. There was no standardization when I got hired on, but I've been working my way there. So, I don't always have an image, so to speak, for every machine. Plus, if it's a manager's or owner's laptop, re-imaging is the LAST resort, period. Unless they've been inundated with malware, of course. Then, in a sense, I'll pull rank.
When I was a desktop technician for Intuit, the rules were very different. Everything was already set up and we had tons of spares to switch out, as well as plenty of other desks they could move to. I was merely just a cog in a much larger machine. Spending more than an hour on a machine(software related), was a no-no. In fact, if I already knew what the problem was and the fix itself was going to be longer than 15-20 minutes, I would re-image anyway.
It really depends on a lot of factors. You need to examine your setup and decide what fits your needs.
Oct 4, 2011 at 10:20 UTC
Hi! Lots of great comments in here. True, Windows 7 gives out a lot less problems, feeling really spoiled too, ha,ha. Yeah, when a computer has some fancy software like AutoCAD, GIS, etc. and license reactivation and re-installing is a pain, definitely try out a good 1 hour; but if it's a more standard install, just re-image or re-install.
Now about the files, hopefully your users are trained to place important files on a shared folder in a server that gets backed up, or some other SAN solution.
If not, and if you cannot get into Windows to retrieve them, you can try booting up with a Linux live CD and copy them off the hard drive.
If you think there might be more to backing up than just 'My Documents', and you're in a hurry to get this system back and running, then you can use clonezilla and image the computer as it is, broken, just so you put a working fresh image on it and get the user working again, and then use the clonezilla image on a virtual machine and start recovering. We also clonezilla all computers we get from Directors and Managers before re-imaging them, just in case.
Oct 4, 2011 at 3:00 UTC
Our techs spend 3-4 hours, but starting Jan 1st if it takes more than 15 mintues the answer will be re-image the machine.
Oct 5, 2011 at 5:32 UTC
If I find it interesting - as long as it takes.
Unfortunately, for maximum efficiency you should just have spare hardware ready to go, swap the box out, and reimage the original box. But then you don't learn anything and have reduced desktop support to an unskilled job.
Big IT firms immediately reimage over the network and if that doesn't work courier out a replacement box. Thats why I left a big IT firm.
Oct 5, 2011 at 7:21 UTC
Y'know, it really depends on the situation. Being that our system are fairly specific to use we have to customize many of the loads. Hardware specs vary also, so there is no one image that works for many. We're good about knowing when a problem is beyond fixing and ditch the fix for a new load.
Having said that, I think a good question might be "do you really know when to cut and run?"..
Oct 5, 2011 at 7:21 UTC
if i know the problem will take longer than the time it will take to reinstall windows, then i dont bother trying to resolve... unless it's an ongoing problem, or a problem that affects a number of PC...
... in a way it's the easy option, learning to resolve the problem would be much better... but sometimes you just aint got the time!
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All Movie GuideDirty Rotten Scoundrels harks back to the era of suave 1950s and '60s caper films -- specifically, the 1963 David Niven/Marlon Brando vehicle Bedtime Story, on which Scoundrels's script is based. Michael Caine plays the slicker member of the anti-hero duo with perfect English ease, and Steve Martin is inspired as his gauche American counterpart. Scoundrels features an involved and complicated plot, with as many twists and turns as a decent mystery; the film unfolds like a broad, comic version of the The Sting. Director Frank Oz's only previous adult-oriented film was 1986's Little Shop of Horrors, and with Dirty Rotten Scoundrels he firmly established the fine comic form that he would perfect with In & Out (1997) and Bowfinger (1999). The lush French Riviera environs are adroitly shot by Michael Ballhaus.
Dirty Rotten ScoundrelsDirector: Frank Oz
Cast: Steve Martin, Michael Caine, Glenne Headly
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is a remake of the 1964 film farce Bedtime Story. Steve Martin and Michael Caine take over the roles originally played by Marlon Brando and David Niven: two international con artists, plying their trade on gullible wealthy women up and down the Riviera. Martin and Caine vie over the honor of fleecing ingenuous heiress Glenne/i>/i>
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is a remake of the 1964 film farce Bedtime Story. Steve Martin and Michael Caine take over the roles originally played by Marlon Brando and David Niven: two international con artists, plying their trade on gullible wealthy women up and down the Riviera. Martin and Caine vie over the honor of fleecing ingenuous heiress Glenne Headly (in a role originated by Shirley Jones).
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|Steve Martin
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|Pascal Charbonnier
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|Stephen A. Rotter
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|Production Designer
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|Bernard Williams
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This movie about two con men on the French Riviera inspired the Broadway musical of the same name, in which John Lithgow gives Michael Caine's character from the film a more egotisical bent. Having seen both the play and the movie, both of which are great, I still prefer the film version - especially because of Steve Martin's outlandish approach to his character. The story wraps up with not one, but two, delightful plot twists.
It's well worth my discounted purchase - lots of fun, and Martin and Caine are a great team!


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Injured duo Ajit Agarkar and Yuvraj Singh have been named in the squad but in case they fail to recover in time, VRV Singh and Dinesh Karthik would board the flight to South Africa, chief selector Dilip Vengsarkar announced here today.
RP Singh and Ramesh Powar could not find a place in the squad and Gautam Gambhir did not get the nod either, despite his success in domestic cricket. Test opener Wasim Jaffer pipped Gambhir to the post, while VVS Laxman too failed to make the cut.
Anil Kumble, who recovered from his tendonitis injury, returned to the Team India fold, backed with his match winning effort against West Zone in Duleep Trophy opener. His return will strengthen the spin department.
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The Climate Response Fund
The Climate Response Fund (CRF), in its infancy (January 2009), was a reaction to the global call for climate intervention research. The call to action came from the scientific community who warned that we must study climate intervention in order to understand the "in case of emergency" options that could be relied upon if we hit a "catastrophic climate tipping point." Guttman Initiatives worked with Dr. Margaret Leinen along with advisors to set up the Climate Response fund. It was clear that large organizations were not yet prepared to take the lead on developing rules and guidelines.
What is a climate emergency? One such possibility could be a dramatic release of methane from the arctic permafrost into our atmosphere. The result would be dramatic, effectively changing weather patterns, food growth patterns and even where to build a home.
Climate intervention is not a desired option. Many impacts of climate intervention may be unsettling. The unintended consequences are, of course, not foreseeable. The scientific community absolutely acknowledges these dangers; however, the scientific community also argues that we must be prepared for potential tipping points and that the only way to know whether any of these techniques could offset such tipping points is to study them.
Climate intervention was likened by one participant at the Asilomar Conference to chemotherapy. Although undesirable, it may save the patient from a worse situation. The research will shine light on the field and help us to understand the issues.
The Climate Response Fund was created to ensure that this research is done safely and responsibly.
Continued Calls For Geoengineering
In March 2009, Foreign Affairs published the article, "The Geoengineering Option, A Last Resort Against Global Warming?" by David G. Victor, M. Granger Morgan, Jay Apt, John Steinbruner, and Katharine Ricke. The article highlighted several major points including: 1) odds of reaching a real climate tipping point are increasing; 2) serious research on climate intervention (or geoengineering) is still in its infancy, and has not received the attention it deserves from politicians; and 3) the time has come to take climate intervention seriously.
Furthermore, the article reflected precisely the philosophy and intent for the Asilomar International Conference On Climate Intervention Technologies, "Although the international scientific community should take the lead in developing a research agenda, social scientists, international lawyers, and foreign policy experts will also have to play a role. Eventually, there will have to be international laws to ensure that globally credible and legitimate rules govern the deployment of geoengineering systems. But effective legal norms cannot be imperiously declared. They must be carefully developed by informed consensus in order to avoid encouraging the rogue forms of geoengineering they are intended to prevent".
The call for this conference came from other sources as well. In April 2009 President Obama's Science Advisor, Dr. John Holdren remarked, "It's (climate intervention) got to be looked at. We don't have the luxury of taking any approach off the table." In June 2009, the US National Academy of Sciences held a Geoengineering Workshop. This was a part of the Academy's two-year study of 'America's Climate Choices' for response to climate change. The workshop was tremendously successful and resulted in a clear consensus in support of climate intervention technology (geoengineering) research.
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The International Conference on Climate Intervention Technologies was developed to bring together leading world-wide scientists and specialists in risk assessment and governance, and nonprofit organizations to propose rules and guidelines for climate intervention studies. The conference took place at the Asilomar Conference Center, Monterey California, March 22-26, 2010 and was developed by Guttman Initiatives along with a new nonprofit, The Climate Response Fund.
The goal of the conference was not to debate either the use of climate intervention or ethical issues. It explicitly focused on facilitating international standards to reduce risk associated with research. Guttman Initiatives secured the leadership of Dr. Paul Berg (Nobel Prize 1980), who successfully implemented the historic Asilomar Conference on Recombinant DNA Technologies that proposed the rules and guidelines currently in place for RDNA science. Like the first Asilomar Conference, the guidelines developed from this environmental conference will continue to be assessed regularly with international participation to incorporate new information resulting from ongoing research.
Leading Nonprofits Participating to Set Rules and Guidelines for this Science
To ensure the broadest consideration of environmental protection and precautions, leading nonprofits participated both in the scientific organization of the conference and in efforts to propose guidelines for climate intervention technology research. For example, Dr. Stephen Hamburg (Chief Scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF)) and Mr. Steven Seidel (Vice President for Policy Analysis of the Pew Center for Global Climate Change) participated as active members of the conference's Scientific Organizing Committee.
Conference Developer and Chair of Scientific Organizing Committee are Internationally Known Climate Scientists
Guttman Initiatives worked closely with Dr. Margaret Leinen, CEO of the Climate Response Fund (former Chair of the US Global Change Research Program, Vice-Chair of the Climate Change Science Program and Assistant Director for Geosciences of the National Science Foundation). Additionally, Guttman Initiatives worked closely with the conference's chair of the Scientific Organizing Committee, Dr. Michael MacCracken (Chief Scientist for Climate Change Programs of The Climate Institute and former President of International Association of Meteorology). The Scientific Organizing Committee developed the agenda for the conference.
Organizing Committee
To achieve the conference's goals, the Scientific Organizing Committee was comprised of leaders representative of scientific excellence in the fields related to climate intervention and with expertise in developing consensus around difficult climate-related issues. These leading scientists represented a diversity of geographic background and scientific expertise. Their summaries highlight their experience in consensus building as well as their scientific experience and recognition.
Framing the Issue of Climate Intervention (Media, Public Education)
Led by the Environmental Defense Fund and Pew Center for Global Climate Change, Guttman Initiatives and CRF helped frame the issue of climate intervention in ways that allowed productive public discussions of climate intervention. We launched work with nonprofit partners on a summary of climate intervention technologies intended for non-scientific audiences. We also focused on a variety of media sources (ie, Science and Nature, The Economist). At the policy level for scientific media, we discussed strategy with Alan Leshner (American Association for the Advancement of Science) and Floyd Bloom (former editor of Science). Furthermore, we also had discussions with experts in public opinion related to climate change, such as Dr. Anthony Leiserowitz (Yale University), so as to develop information that will assist in framing the issue for a variety of audiences.
International Interest
Although many countries and states are still considering their position on the use of climate intervention technologies, the conference garnered support because of the urgent need to set global guiding principles for research. As a result, the State Of Victoria, Australia became a partner/sponsor for the conference.
World governments and international research foundations were largely immobilized (not funding experiments) because of concerns of research risks. Unless these public and private organizations can point to an international scientific consensus on guiding principles for risk management, it is unlikely that funding will materialize; leaving a dangerous vacuum in the knowledge of climate tools. Even more frightening was the fact that until this conference ensued, these guidelines were nonexistent for researchers and scientists proceeding to study these techniques. This left us gravely open to potential unintended consequences from experimentation without appropriate global consideration of safety standards.
The Conference
The first evening of the conference was magical. The tone had changed. The Scientific Organizing Committee performed an absolutely tremendous job in setting the expectations and character of the conference. The speakers pointed to historical parallels in which global collaborative considerations were successful. When participants approached the microphone to speak, each acknowledged their commitment to the goal of setting guidelines and their willingness to collaborate. There was professional respect and… a willingness to learn.
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The subsequent days were long, intense and at times, grueling. There were real, and sometimes heated debates. Different perspectives were clear, but the collaborative and respectful tone rose above the differences.
Throughout the conference, the various fields of climate intervention science were reviewed. During these discussions, the scientists heard different perspectives from economists, environmentalists, social scientists, etc. There was great sensitivity to our shared future in the evolution of these discussions.
In Conclusion
Ultimately, there was one word that resonated from the environmentalists, economists, historians, policy makers and others who attended the conference. The word was humility… and that perspective changed the path of the conference. The conference's summary statement captured this sentiment.
It is believed that the most important element that resulted from the conference was the collaboration of the different disciplines. The groups had historically been very confrontational – and they had demonstrated this leading up to the conference. During the conference, there was a transformation. Collectively the group demonstrated a willingness to "hear the other side" and more importantly, listen. I think it was an awakening for all attendees.
We continue to have commitment from the participants to work together. We must cherish and utilize this asset wisely. Currently, a report on Geoengineering Governance from the Bipartisan Policy Commission is being released in October 2011 using the Asilomar Principles as the starting point for their governance talks. The conference is prominently featured in the report. In addition, the Asilomar Conference was featured in the work of an international group of scientists who led a workshop to develop ideas on how to study the ecosystem effects of geoengineering. Again, the Asilomar Principles were deemed the appropriate framework to conduct this research appropriately.
Guttman Initiatives and CRF are honored to be able to make a difference by encouraging our community, our nation and our world to keep their focus on geoengineering developments.
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