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Sunday, October 28, 2007
I have placed a link to it on the side of this site. You may continue to "stay tuned" by going there after leaving here!
Here is an interesting little thing on television. I hope you all can view it.
Just a note: while I do not care for everything this website or Dr. Mercola. I found this video fascinating and a must see.
Thanks fw, dawn, rudi, Rich, wickus, Nony, and all you at FP for your great feedback!! God Bless you!
"Furthermore, I own a Strongs Concordance
which, I'm sure a scholar like yourself knows,
will give me the exact Hebrew/Chaldee
translation of any word in question. I don't
speak Hebrew as you do, or Aramaic or
Greek, as you do, which I assume is the
reason for your condescending tone. It
must be hard to take: all these fools who
don't go to your unique church and don't
listen to the special teacher that you do."
i dont speak any of those languages. thats why i have a concordance as well. no you dont have to go to my church. you just have to go to one that teaches the bible.
but the best thing you can do is read it foryourself. i dont know everything, never said i did. im always learning.
again, i wont debate this any longer. i think ive said all i have to about it. keep watching.
Not to change the subject
or anything, but the following
link will show what has been
classified info for the last
sixty years regarding who
was to blame for WWII.
Why was it classified?
I don't know, but the IG Farbin
company ( among others: big
pharma, big oil and others )
were found to be guilty of
planning the war and
funding the war and really
making sure the war continued
and that their own business
That George Bush is a descendant
of these same people has
been documented by a number
of researchers much more
thorough than I.
My point is, if they got away
with it then, and then were able
to cover their tracks, in spite
of the Nuremburgh trials, what
are they up to today?
The answer is that they are
still taking orders from the
Central Bank ( London ) just as
they were then.
George Bush is a lying Illuminati
shill for them. He is a puppet,
as are all the major candidates
for president including Hillary,
Obama, and Rudi, et al.
Now Al Gore wants to sneak
in the back door and he might
just do it.
This is still America.
Click Here
Pray that they, we, might understand that the "WORD of GOD cannot be broken." "That the glory which the Father gave the SON He gives to us." To manipulate around this present evil age is a tendency from the carnal man; to herald God's Word, expose the darkness and to be living letters and "children of light" is enough. Thanks Mac for your contribution to that end on this Oct. 30' 2007
Yours in Christ:
Thanks Rudi for telling me about Constance's blog, don't know how I hadn't come across it before.
I've never used Blogger before, is there a way to send private messages? I'd love to pass on some interesting info to Constance.
Keep up the good fight!
On my comment who called you to preach I was being sarcasstic and in fact I thought It was hummorus. You must like parrots because somtimes you'll write about someones exact words and mock them just to try to make them angry. When you do that some of us are just laughing it off. Your so called debate is almost jokeable.
In fact, I knew someone alot like you who would love to make comments like you do and he had a hard time keeping friends and many times it turned into arrguments and he actually was made to leave places we were together as friends and after 3 years my time was just wasted. And it got to the point where it was't worth my time. In some cases parroting people is a sign of Autism or are you just trying to mock others peoples comments just to make them angry. If your trying to make me angry just to parrot then I'm going to laugh it off. If you have some Autism then that's different.
Kayak River
In fact, I knew someone alot like you who would love to make comments like you do and he had a hard time keeping friends and many times it turned into arrguments and he actually was made to leave places we were together as friends and after 3 years my time was just wasted. And it got to the point where it was't worth my time. In some cases parroting people is a sign of Autism or are you just trying to mock others peoples comments just to make them angry. If your trying to make me angry just to parrot then I'm going to laugh it off. If you have some Autism then that's different.
Kayak River"
i have no idea what you're talking about, but i really dont care. i told i was done with this.
no i dont have autism, but im glad a good ol' "christian" like yourself makes light of it and thinks its funny. we need more people like you in this world (sarcasm).
Kayak River
wow you must really be bored. but i supose i am too because i keep responding to you. ha.
first, im not "parroting" as you say. its called "QUOTING": Quoting means including original text from the news article you are answering to in your own article.
i do this to put my reply in context and also so that people dont have to go back and try and read what im replying to. it makes it easier for the reader to follow along the thought and issues discussed. what im trying to do is make life easier for people.
on the other hand,
"PARROTING", Simply means to repeat what the other person has said works like this:
Other: I want to come with you.
You: You want to come with me?
Other: I am not sure what to do.
You: So, you're not sure what to do...
see, knowing is half the battle. but thanks for your comments i have to say that you made me laugh as well and i needed it. its a slow day at work. we can still be friends.
1: And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2: I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3: For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
what do you think of alex jones and his new film"ENDGAME"?
i find he has some good research.
OV! I'm glad you shrugged off the criticism and continue to post here.
Please be gentle, my son is Autistic; no offense taken.
Yours in Christ:
BTW, good work, Farmer.
i was only trying to show "Kayak river" sarcastically how rediculous he/she was being by even bringing up a serious condition like autism in order to justify/accuse my comments as "parroting & jokeable". saying i must be autistic to even post such comments.
i also suspect autism in my family, so no i dont think its funny.
God bless>oVi
ps. i dont scare easy, ill continue to post here. thanks.
everyone on one of
the latest maneuvers
from the EU.
You can go to tinyurl.com. copy and paste the web address into the space. Hit the button, "Make tiny URL". Then you can copy your website that looks like it is relatively important over here and it doesn't get clipped.
Yours in Christ:
sETTERMAN, Curious to learn more about that education thing! (the link does not work though...)
"In 2003, a group of visionary Europeans prominent in government, civil society, and business created an initiative to bring a new marshall plan to the world's people. They were inspired in part by their experience with the historic Marshall Plan (1948-1951) that helped rescue their families from the devastation of World War II. Their memories of U.S. generosity, combined with their deep knowledge of current inequalities in global aid, trade and finance, inspired them to imagine a great leap forward in global organization and assistance, called the Global Marshall Plan Initiative. Now named the Convention on the Global Commons, that Initiative is represented in the United States by the Centre for Global Negotiations."
***Global Marshall Plan Initiative
'Convention On The Global Commons'
***Press Release: Sept 1,2007
***Center for Global Negotiations
Announcing the 2010 Convention on the Global Commons:
***'The Convention On The Global Commons'
***"Groups involved in the development of the consultation process as well as international agencies responsible to the themes included in the Convention on the Global Commons." see Links:
Look Who's Talkin' About It:
***Nicolas Sarkozy/Jose' Manuel/Al Gore:
***The Club of Budapest/World Wisdom Council: "We support the Global Marshall Plan"
***Robert Muller:"Now there are two superpowers: the US and the merging voice of the people of the world." First published March 10,2003 Updated 1 January 2007
***Rabbi Michael Lerner (Network of Spiritual Progressives):
***Al Gore: A new Marshall Plan is needed
Global Marshall Plan Initiative
Ov!, your video link didn't help my paranoia. I'm going to check under my bed tonight. Seriously, I can verify that at least the Eugenics info is true. The sale of body parts from China is monstrous if true. Thanks for the link.
"Brainstroming meeting in Brussels"
"Brainstroming meeting in Brussels
Stress the added value of the Initiative
The meeting "The Global Marshall Plan – approaches for its implementation on the European level" took place in the Renewable Energy House in Brussels on October 5 2007.
Issues and starting points for implementing the Global Marshall Plan Initiative in Brussels were worked out. The results as well as the gist of further interviews will now feed into the strategic planning.
The discussion about climate change and its adoption as well as European or global taxes could be a peg for moving onto the European level. Further pegs could be the coherence of the EU's development and trade policies. There was agreement that the Initiative's unique selling point needs to be stressed when presenting it."
Source: ÖSFO
Open two or more 'windows' on your monitor when you go to the OSFO link above. Then copy and paste the web address for OSFO into the translate box here:
translate from German to English and you can read the information. You should be able to keep clicking and reading while at the OSFO site without going back to keep translating, as long as you don't leave it for a different web address.-Rudi
You may want to contact me privately regarding oyour post -- I have some information for your that I don't want to share publicly. One of those of whom you write has played a very interesting game!
the author of the Global Marshall Plan Franz Josef Radermacher is also member of the Club of Rome and in 2004 he received the "Planetary Consciousness Prize" from the Club of Budapest.
the Club is also named in the authorship. Channeling lady Jane Roberts is on board...
from the last link (pp79/80):
"Religious fundamentalists in many parts of the world, particularly
in the US, have been jeopardizing the consensus
of Cairo and international strategies for the enforcement of
reproductive rights of people in poorer countries since
several years, aiming to deprive people in the poor world of
what is a matter of course in the rich countries...The US were the only country which explicitly dismissed the human right for reproductive self-determination..."
do they mean abortion?
They clearly state:
"The fundamentalist opposition, particularly of influential
powers from the "bible belt" in the US, is the underlying reason
why the UN Millennium Development Goals address the
issue of demographic development less clearly and openly
than the situation factually require" (sic)
look out - here comes the Bali Climate Control Meeitng - this link is John Kerry's speech listed on the council on frgein relations web sight ;
theres nothing to fear except fear itself. i think that film has some really good, right on, material. but yes the china human body parts trafficing is real:
thanks for being patient with my comments and views. again, im not here to start trouble but to engage in thoughtful issues.
did you get a chance to see the ENDGAME film? im really curious on your take on it. and no, im not "setting you up". i promise.
(defectors from the faith - seducing spirits and doctrines of demons) -
I also have a son with autism. I myself have Asperger's. I guess it runs in the family.
David in Battle Creek
Thanks for the tiny URL
Wow a Global Marshall Plan.
My quick glance landed on
the global taxes on both sales
and trade. How clever.
I also noticed right up
front in the overview that
they want to appeal to
"enterpreneurs" among others.
I find that interesting,
considering how aggresive
and diabolical they are.
Yours truly,
she goes to a charter school instaed of regular high school -it is an art academy - her thing is drawing & illustration more than anything - she is 18 & graduates this year -my oldest just married this past month - time goes by doesn't it?
I have a younger brother that has Autism and totally disabled. I've been around it all my life and I'm very understanding when it comes to Autism.
Kayak River
Hey did you know Alex Jones is a White racist."
really? why?
documentation? evidence?
i dont agree with everything he says, but i think he has some good material.
Your cartoons look like crap.Where did you learn how to draw? Your comments are so so far out in left field that you don't know how to get back to home plate.
In Missouri
Your cartoons look like crap.Where did you learn how to draw? Your comments are so so far out in left field that you don't know how to get back to home plate.
In Missouri"
well, you must be one of those really good "christians". all i asked for is some documentation as to why alex jones is a "white racist" and instead of helping me out by showing me some evidence to change my mind about him, you instead insult me and my work.
if you dont like my artwork, thats fine. you dont have to look at it and i respect your opinion.
but what good does it do to insult me because i ask for information about alex jones?
remember i said i dont agree with everything alex says. or did you miss that part?
he also talks about the NWO just as constance does. so why are you here on this blog?
Councils must act to "ensure children mix and are able to form friendships with pupils from different backgrounds".
Those who follow The Templeton might be interested in another post by Jenny:
Jenny Says:
November 1st, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Benjamin C
The Templeton Foundation people are committed Darwinists and are in the same boat as Miller at Brown University. Actually in the past they have supported a number of ID supporters but got so much bad press that they caved into the pressure. What can only be described as a hate movement now exists against ID.
Yours in Christ:
I do have a problem trying to decide whether the goal is to change us to be more like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
The Nazis set up a all manner of pagan rituals to replace Christian celebrations. At the time they weren't thinking of replacing Jewish celebrations because they were just going to kill off all of the Jews anyway.
The Soviets turned Christmas into
"Winter Holidays" and all manner of secular type things such as gift giving, sled rides, trees, etc. were incorporated.
"Parents, their friends and family and the state [would] agree to work in partnership to support and bring up their child."
You need to read under the various headers...things like the Revealing the fifth kingdom, Prayer for Children under the heading 'synthesis'; Security and other 'spiritual' teaching...very bad stuff, and those against it are the enemy.
New Group of World Servers is a group started by and affiliated with Lucis Trust. Over time they've cut back on revealing the true number of groups associated with their work when you go to their basic website.
However go here
http://www.ngws.org/service/Groups1.htm and you'll find an extended list of affiliated organizations. I would suggest you make a copy for your own files as the information might disappear in the future.
I have not see that particular Alex Jones work. I do have a couple of other ones that I must confess I found significant. Where can it get "End Game" ? Is it up on the web?
The info on the NGWS was stupendous. Didn't know that online resource was there and thanks! I have archived it!
the main page is now up, I just can't get into the forums or into Adam's or Holly's articles.
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Marion and Nancy Lamberson were married on June 24, 1973, at Olivet Christian Church in Center, Mo.
Marion and Nancy Lamberson were married on June 24, 1973, at Olivet Christian Church in Center, Mo.
Mr. and Mrs. Lamberson have three children, Nanette (husband, Joe) Johnson, Carla Lamberson and Nathan Lamberson of Hannibal, Mo. They have three grandchildren, Regan (husband, Brandon) Baker, Skyleah Jo Johnson and Jared Johnson of Hannibal. Marion and Nancy also have two great-grandchildren, Adisyn and Ainslee Baker of Hannibal, Mo.
They are lifelong residents of the Hannibal area. Both attended and graduated from Mark Twain High School in Center, Mo., and have several friends and family members in that area. Currently living in Hannibal, both enjoy traveling and spending time with their family.
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Saturday, January 9, 2010
So who is the idiot, huh???
Boman as Virus hams it up to the hilt, but compensates for it all when he dances a spontaneous jig much to Kareena's delight. Enough of all that. Having said all this good stuff, here comes the bummer - the hospital scenes featuring Sharman Joshi in a coma, went on forever. And that ludicrous bachcha delivery scene in which Aamir brings a baby into the world using a vacuum cleaner as a suction pump was the absolute pits! I also hated the sequence of the paralytic father being rushed to the hospital sandwiched between Kareena-Aamir on a scooter. Why so many hospital scenes.... and has Kareena taken a vaada to play a doctor in every film? Does parking a pair of trendy\nerdy spectacles over her pert nose convince audiences?I could have done with less toilet humour too, and all the underpants featured in the movie look like they were bought wholesale from the same supplier.
Now comes the BIG one, since I know some of you want my take on the issue: Did I think Chetan Bhagat's charge of being denied appropriate credit (which he went to town with against the film makers) , justified?? Totally! A big 'Yes'. And no, I haven't read the book. But I refuse to 'shut up' like Chopra wanted that reporter to. Since I was away and have missed the fireworks, let me just say this is no way to treat the author - blink and Bhagat's name was gone! Even Dia Mirza received more prominence, and I could have sworn she wasn't even in the film!! Was she?????
Chetan's name should have been right up there where it rightfully belongs when the credits rolled at the start of the film. The line could have said, " Based on Chetan Bhagat's book 'Five Point Something'." That would have been fair. Instead I noticed the credit for 'story' went to someone else. Story, not screenplay. That's not on. Perhaps Chetan should have got himself a sharper lawyer . For, if I know how Bollywood works, Bhagat will be instantly blacklisted by the Biggies who run the show, and get a bad reputation as a 'troublemaker'. He can go to town declaring his love for Aamir and the rest of the gang now. But the damage is done. Chetan may have to kiss his big Bollywood dream goodbye. Or kiss a** bigtime. Both, lousy options. That would be a real pity. His concept was fresh, original and a winner. Unlike most of the filched, recycled stuff Bollywood banks on. Which leaves me wondering who the real idiot is. Bhagat has been short changed. Period. And no amount of money can make up for what he has suffered as a writer. What could be worse for any creative person than to have somebody else steal the credit for a hugely successful project? Such a bloody shame. But maybe aallll eeeeez well, after all???
88 comments:
- akanksha said...
Was waiting for your response to the issue. I too feel the same, i have read the book and seen the movie, but ofcourse it draws a lot of inspiration from the book. And yes, true, Chetan Bhagat will be ignored by Bollywood unfortunately. But he was right.
- January 9, 2010 at 1:39 AM
- Prince said...
yeah may be he has been detained by Bollywood thsi time but i am actually not sure about his demands from VVC ....he is of course the assistant writer (U can say) as the base may be taken by his book but still he cannt hav the whole credit of script writer as he were in "Hello" based on his "1 nite @call center"
- January 9, 2010 at 2:16 AM
- Vivek Nanda said...
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- January 9, 2010 at 2:23 AM
- Vivek Nanda said...
Yes, the damage has been done and the poor guy- Chetan may have to say goodbye to his bollywood dreams. I think the filmmakers played really smart, they not only got an ambiguous statements in the contract but also taken away the credit for Bhagat's story. May be Chetan is new to the business, may be he had too much faith in directors or may be he is in his initial days in B-town where you can hardly question a director, who is making a Aamir Khan film based on your book but all this for a IIM GRAD. Unbelievable!! I thought they are good enough to strike a cool deal, may be not every time, after all we do make mistakes. Whatever it is, there are many lessons to be learnt from here both for Chetan and the other authors. Hope everyone gets its own fair bit of recognition and fame!!
- January 9, 2010 at 2:25 AM
- Nirbhay said...
You made us wait a long time for this blog.
- January 9, 2010 at 3:38 AM
- Harman said...
good... inch by inch ripped the movie....!!!
- January 9, 2010 at 3:44 AM
- The Panorama said...
I like your take on Chetan Bhagat. It is a pity that Bollywood works like a mafia, where if you step on the shoes of the big bosses, you run the risk of committing career suicide. The industry froze Vivek Oberoi for years after he dared to go against Salman.
Actually I loved the film: I can't believe you liked a boring Govinda film better than 3 Idiots. But then again, it's a matter of taste. I agree that the guy Omi who plays Chatur was excellent in the role and stole the show many times.
And why blame 3 Idiots for being melodramatic? Aren't most Bollywood films melodramatic?
Otherwise I am happy to read a comment where it isn't yet another travelogue. Sorry, I like your blog very much but lately, it was beginning to read more like "The Lonely Planet".
I love the way you boldly deal with controversies in your trademark politically incorrect style. Welcome back:)
- January 9, 2010 at 3:52 AM
- Sandy said...
Thanks Shobhaa ma'am for your candid opinion re this issue...
Aamir you too???
Shame on you Mr. Aamir Khan..
- January 9, 2010 at 3:54 AM
- bindu said...
Shobhaa,write more often pleeeeease!!!
- January 9, 2010 at 3:54 AM
- Jyostna said...
Hi Ms. De,
I've been waiting on ur post abt 3 Idiots. Well, honestly I had a very similar feeling as urs after watching the movie. When it comes to Bhagat, God save him from this kind of stupid credit stealers. Most of the Hollywood films do give credits to the original author right from the beginning n they make it a point that posters n promos carry a line or two on such. Time for Bollywoodies..grow up guys!
- January 9, 2010 at 4:01 AM
- Another Kiran In NYC said...
All izzz not well.
Bollywood had just begun to wake up to the concept of REAL stories... tried, tested writing from Books that sold in large numbers category and perhaps more. Stories written with creativity and imagination. Books that people have actually read. Books that have actually been edited by a professional. Books that have passed peer review amongst the literary set and appreciated by the aam janta.
Yeah, those kinds of books... with a story... the kind you could actually write a screenplay and have a bound copy to film from.
A pity that men with so little grace spoilt that nascent cloud of hope. The hope of a real story, not just stylistic filmi posturing.
Chetan Bhagat will be blacklisted. However the greater tragedy is that desi authors with great stories to tell will be evermore wary of doing business with bollywood.
There is always a Danny Boyle and numerous imitators of him, who will now make the films written by authors with a desi sensibility that should have been made by an Indian filmmaker. Bollywood can go back to making Kali Raton Ka Pret, Rahasyamai Ladki and Bhayanak Kaidi.
Is Chetan Bhagat a great writer? Not so sure. This book had soul but average writing. His next books had less soul and better writing. His writing is better and better, perhaps his business sense should catch up.
I wonder if Manini Chatterjee has a better contract with Ashutosh G for her book Do or Die. hmmmm.... bears thinking about.
- January 9, 2010 at 5:16 AM
Fantastic honest review.
It isn't in the Munnabhai league, but pretty close - well said. The 3 idiots movie hidden importance before the release, Aamir hiding(marketing) before the release And no other big release along with the movie(PAA released And My Name is Khan waiting)Then Chetan controversy - all such subjects help the movie a lot to sell box-office tickets.
Anyway, Chetan will get work - do not worry. But the question is:
What if writer becomes Hero?
Maybe all garlands/awards will be for him/her. Fair/Unfair? - The reply?
- January 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM
- RAJ47 said...
Hi Shobhaa,
Well! Aallll eeeeez well!!!
Everyone is watching the movie and many are reading the book too.
So..... the movie has got the best of publicity and people know who Chetan Bhagat is.
So who is the idiot, huh???
- January 9, 2010 at 7:38 AM
- Sujit Books said...
u r absolutely right, the movie is not in the munnabhai league, but is definitely an entertaining movie..FYI , the Ugandan guys name is OMI vaidya (a marathi guy living in the US).also,
Chetan has certainly screwed it up for himself..
- January 9, 2010 at 7:48 AM
- Bindu Nayar said...
Couldnt agree more De..I liked the movie not loved it...3.5 stars from me...honestly was a lill diasspointed after all the buzz it created..
good marketing perhaps worked for its success ..its defnitely not in munnabhai league...
- January 9, 2010 at 8:38 AM
- joie-de-vivre said...
the book is called `Five point someone' not `something'.
- January 9, 2010 at 9:09 AM
- Sapna said...
I guess you should go in movie direction or script writing.. then and then you will be able to know how much effort it requires to make successful movie.
Just criticizing movie on blog is easy. and about Chetan.. he already got enough fame which he deserved.. what else he need...
- January 9, 2010 at 10:14 AM
- Nilu said...
Hello Ms. Shobha,
I've been an avid follower of your blog and like your no-holds-barred take on every controversial topic. I may not necessarily always agree with it though:)
I've read Five point someone, and believe me, there's not much that the filmmaker has used for this movie from the book. The movie is loosely "inspired" by the novel. The main difference is that in the book the 3 friends are all mediocre students in an IIT college, whereas in this movie, the hero is a topper.
I think Chetan could've handled the entire thing in a more dignified manner. He surely got enough publicity though.
- January 9, 2010 at 10:43 AM
- goodluck said...
There are lots of Aamir Khan haters who are SRK lovers. They are trying to explain away the huge success of the film so foolishly. Chetan got most support from SRK lovers.
Shobhaa, you are the type who likes films like RNBDJ and other such stuff. Omi is good because his lines are good. Why compare with Aamir who has such a lot of films to his credit? And our film makers will try their best to make him another comic actor. And the stupid public will expect the same act from Omi.
And is not Chetan trying to steal the credit for the new story which is quite different? And the way he spoke one lie after another. No comment on that. Are you writers are all holy cows not to be touched? What about the dismal Hello which was a damp squib?
When Chetan himself accepted rolling credit anywhere, why are you so upset?
Second half is as good as first half with all the drama which ordinary people enjoyed. Any problems with that? You are unhappy that Kareena got such praise. Films are not documentaries to be logical and correct to the last point. They have to entertain.
Anyway, you never liked to praise Aamir's films wholeheartedly. You hated Ghajini also. You are too biased, Shobhaa.
Have you seen Bhagat's blog? He was saying 'read my book read my book' ad nauseum. You writers will go to any extent to sell your books. Why blame film makers when they try to sell their films through dramatic sequences and good marketing?
Crib, nitpick and do all bad mouthing. Public made it the biggest hit. That is the FACT.
- January 9, 2010 at 11:04 AM
- cmpershad said...
"The line could have said, " Based on Chetan Bhagat's book 'Five Point Something'."
We are hesitant to give the devil his due :)
- January 9, 2010 at 11:05 AM
- Pooja said...
Ma de how did your birthday go?
i liked Paa more(than 3 idiots - you can watch once thats it ).
I agree that the guy (from uganda in the movie 3 idiots)deserves praise as the way he delivered the speech ( in my view the best scene of the movie)is a good find .
As for chetan bhagat i will accept your view point as you too are a writer and i trust your judgement.
- January 9, 2010 at 11:11 AM
- nitin said...
hi De, congrats for making a career out of criticising achievers !!..i m told u r famous in india by criticising the celebrities and taking a controversial view on many issues or ppl ( like u did for Deepika-not good looking or overrated looks and including Amitabh the God of acting and the best ambassodor of India for all time); i am yet to find one valid criticism of yours..if u r so forthright and gutsy critique that u wd like to project..where were u when raj thakeray was on the rampage ..i m sure u will take a safe stand by flowing with manoos concept...
- January 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM
- Manjiri Kale said...
I was planning for 3Idiots last sunday but my plan was changed
I choosed "NATRANG" and It's a greate experience for me.....
- January 9, 2010 at 11:25 AM
- supriya said...
all i wanna say is...I REALLY LOVED THE MOVIE!! i could not find any faults....and i disagree with all your pointed out faults too..!!
and about chetan bhagat's case...he should have have settled it down before the realease of the movie..!! Now..this would just be called his publicity stunt...nothing else! Although...I am a huge fan of chetan and have read all his novels...but still...what is wrong ..is wrong!
- January 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM
- NIM said...
Personally I really liked the movie. I do agree that the ending was just too dumb to be true about the vacuum cleaner and 'all izz well' but these days every overly-hyped hindi movie has a crappy ending to it. :P
Also I agree with your take on the Chetan Bhagat Fiasco... They totally used his name to promote the fact that they were making a movie based/inspired from 'Five Point Someone' and NOW they totally deny this.. Its not fair! How much would a single extra line in the credits of the film cost the producers of the movie?? And why do such controversies arise only for Aamir Khan's movies?
- January 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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- January 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM
- shashank said...
Well I have read the book and watched the movie too. But, I do not think the film was based on Five point someone completely. The film has taken instances from the book but the message it offers is completely different from five point someone. It's like you knew the story and you worked around it to develop a new one. I have deep regards for chetan Bhagat. But, when he sold the book rights, he must have been clear about all those things at that time . Why is he making such a hue now when the film has been a blockbuster. Why didn't he complain on friday when the film was first released. Why now?????????
And Why did he apologise again?
It's all bullshit first to bring a controversy and then trying to diffuse it. My vote goes to Amir Khan........
- January 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM
- NITAL BHUVA said...
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- January 9, 2010 at 1:23 PM
- NITAL BHUVA said...
I would rate the movie to be 6/10, at some points the essence is missing because of some kind of making.
Dear friend Shobha, very happy new year to you and family, I welcome you to celebrate in this space of collective consciousness where we all are connected, and wish more realization and bliss for all.
I happen to write some, on practicing in art, I had appreciate if u will have a look at it.
Kind Regards
Peace and Light
- January 9, 2010 at 1:28 PM
- Balvinder Singh said...
Shobhaa, this comment does not refer to the post but to ur tweet of 6th January where u have mourned the death of Jyoti Basu who is still alive and kicking. Why were u in such a tearing hurry to do that. And if it was done by mistake, based on some rumours etc then u should have removed the tweet.
Please don't misunderstand me i am a great fan of yours. Just wanted to draw ur attention to the tweet.
- January 9, 2010 at 2:26 PM
- Partha Pratim said...
CB didn't even realize that his project would be that big a hit. His agreement with RH went against him. A good lawyer would have saved his case.
- January 9, 2010 at 5:40 PM
- numerounity said...
I have read the book many moons ago and liked it immensely. The movie' rushes were good too and I have seen it in many bits n parts. I read Chetan' 4th book and started liking the author immesely.
The controversy took me by surprise as I have seen many painful twitting by Chetan Bhagat praising movie, makers, stars, previews everything so loudly that I begin to get sick with such over show. Still when the controversy striked, i supported the writer- Any educated person who has read the book hitherto n then watched the film will agree that adaption rights/credits is co deserved by the writer. However, the mechanism used by Chetan Bhagat to fight his lame case was wrong. I have read the agreement n the title clause is right. Yes, Mr Vinod chopra has smartly used the T&C which, was graceless as even Mr Vir Sanghvi agrees.
Chetan Bhagat is a good writer but bad celebrity. You can check his tweets, blogs etc...he has million fans undisputingly but half of his blog comments are fake. He does not believe in healthy discussion n removes the comments slightest unsuitable to his motive. Not all ppl can handle success n poor bhagat is no exception. He has ruined his case totally. I agree that he deserved credit but that could be asked gracefully by discussing the matter peacefully with makers n then silently going to court. That is called dignity. what bhagat did is called cheap publicity if not that at least cheap activity. I agree with you that he has hurt his bollywood career but hey i also believe that he has not. He has learned this particular lesson and can use in his future contracts. I still like his books. No doubt he is a good writer.
- January 9, 2010 at 6:42 PM
- manjiT said...
u know de, 5 point someone is a very special book to me. it was the simplicity around it that made it one of my favourites. when the movie was anounced i never believed tat justice can ever be done to the book. n i would have been right,but! i liked the movie, and the reason was it did not overlap the characters i had imagined when reading the book. amir and ryan...hmm, both good in their own respect. and thanfully amir did no harm to my ryan's imagination. alok n hari who were sharman n madhvan didnt bother my imagination either. but here is what, kareena she belied my imagination of the girl whom i had fantasized as 'aditi' from 'just mohabbat' the sony tv serial. and this is the reason why i dont want the movie to be compared to the book. and the moronic CB (as he has let me down with his every new book that i didnt bother to read his new one) wants to claim credit for the movie. plz CB, there's only one good thing u have done n thats 5ps, so dont spoil my imagination by making me believe tat kareena is neha...
- January 9, 2010 at 7:37 PM
- Amita said...
Liked the post.
Just a correction:
The book is Five Point Someone, Not Something.
PS. I am sure he would like his 'Magnum Opus' to be mentioned correctly. :)
The author deserves his credit after all.
- January 9, 2010 at 7:46 PM
- AKSHAY SINGH said...
Thank you so much .. I was gettign SICK of people praising it all around me day and night . And please please write something about the "education system" flaws pointed out in the movie ....
PS : You are so WOW !
- January 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM
- no signal said...
3 idiots is toomuching in every thing.
- January 10, 2010 at 12:53 PM
- Pramod Ganji said...
Yes I do agree that creativity should be encouraged and due credit should be given to the person who deserves it. After all a writer pours all his thoughts, imagination, innovation, emotions and many a times imagines in the situation to come out of the problem. The story is just not an arrangement of literary words but an expression of feelings. Only those who can feel it can understand the value of it.
- January 10, 2010 at 2:39 PM
- nalini said...
I fully agree with you about the first half of the movie but the second half was like treating the public as idiots.It was tooooooooo much to take the so called delivery scene.i hope the bombay biggies are no idiots to overlook Chetans works specially his latest 'the two states.'which is bahut achha material for a movie.
- January 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM
- goodluck said...
Shobhaa, you are misleading your readers with your half baked views. Chetan's work was taken as a basis and a different story was written.Chetan's credit was there whether it is blink or long lasting. Even the technicians also get that type of credit inspite of their backbreaking work. Dont forget, they reworked the whole thing for more than 2 years to present it the way it was presented. Atta in its raw form cant be eaten. In order to make it edible, you have to knead it, cook it, prepare some sabji to go with it. For that good meal, no one will discuss atta's contribution. It is taken for granted. It is the ultimate meal on the table that matters. In this case, atta is given rolling credit along with lots of cash.Yet this atta is jumping up and down with the help of sourgrape type people whom you support for your own reasons. If that book was that great, why didnt it win Booker or Nobel? It is a very ordinary book like all the timepass books written by you which the younger generation lap up. That does not mean you are god and your word is the ultimate thing. And that book achieved this name now because of the film. And it is selling like hot cakes now. What about the stupendous credit it got due to the movie?
- January 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM
As far as the Chetan Bhatgat issue is concerned, I read an article in print recently that said that chetan Bhagat was aware of this terms of involvement in the film once he signed the dotted line (I can't seem to find an online copy of it unfortunately). I think Mr. Bhagat should not have woken up suddenly to air his grievances, especially after he had done the damage himself a while ago. Having said that, Mr. Chopra's behavior with the press when questioned about it, and the claim that the movie was based only 3-5% on the book is rubbish.
3 Idiots was a pretty decent movie. The rona-dhona was expected, and honestly, I'm beginning to become to more generous in my opinion of melodrama. Melodrama is literally a tradition in Hindi film and television, and it separates us from the world's movie making machine. Only Indian movies have people dancing around trees in chiffon sarees sticking to nubile bodies as rain comes down in buckets. It's us, and I like it. 3 idiots, was by no standards a landmark in Hindi cinema but it was a good film all the same.
Good to have you back in Mumbai Ms. De, your Paris sojourn was interesting, but your take on Mumbai always makes for great reading!
- January 10, 2010 at 4:03 PM
- Sparkling said...
I agree. Totally! Though the film might not be exactly as per the book but the very premise and quite a few parts were completely taken off from the book. Hell, the entire scene of Sharman Joshi's house is depicted exactly as per what you read in the book (minus the laatni of course! Eeeeuuu…) Yes, Chetan Bhagat should have been given his due. It was absolutely wrong on the part of the makers and after seeing the way Mr. Pompous Ass Chopra reprimanded the journalist he sure scales way down in my thoughts now dispersing all my 'Parinda' feel for him.
P.S: The book is 'Five Point Someone' ;)
- January 10, 2010 at 4:24 PM
- Sylar said...
I also agree with your opinion.In my opinion 3 idiot is a typical bollywood movie with all the spices which public like to see.
70% of the movie is copied from the novel though they could not copy whole book as for making a successful movie you need some extra masala also.
A comedy scene where Amir khan mixed his answer copy in the bundle in front of professor is copied from an american ad.
- January 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
- Yves said...
The book was OK and Good but the movie was truly something else.
VVC stuck to the exact lines in the contract - he is under no obligation to give Chetan Bhagat top billing. And frankly speaking, the movie only had shades of the book - it was 'inspired' by the book but it had its own tone and story and dialogues.
Chetan Bhagat comes across as a crybaby in all his interviews claiming he doesnt want anything but he was 'hurt'. Ok buddy, if you're 'hurt', then dont do the mistake of not being stupid while negotiating a bad contract from the next time on.
Once you've signed a deal, its a deal - there's absolutely no point in cribbing about it. It is also a semi-smart move...because Mr Bhagat's book sales have jumped by about 15% after all the crying wolf.
And Mrs De, if you have not read the book, I strongly suggest you first read it (and increase Bhagat's book sales) before holding forth on the topic.
And yeah, the book's name is not what you wrote it as.
- January 10, 2010 at 6:03 PM
- Vaibhav said...
SD, I think you're completely out of your depth here.
It is a movie - what were you expecting? Even a top grosser like Avatar has stuff like plugging your ponytail into a horses' ponytail to ride...uhh...that doesnt make the movie any less awesome or amazing.
Plus yeah...the 'story', as you say - was not by Chetan Bhagat. The begining, middle and the ending was completely different (do read the book before you proselytize). The theme was similar and for that, the author got his due - money and a credit. Fine, the credit wasn't right at the top but at the end...so? Now if you want to go back and renegotiate the contract because the movie was a hit, get a lawyer...or get a life from the next time onwards. CB is a so-called well-educated person....and that too from the best B-school in the country - he should have asked for all that he wanted right from the beginning.
ps: Its '5-point someone'..not '5-point something' as you wrongly mention.
You may want to read this: http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp?filename=hub160110no_point.asp
- January 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Well .. B if it stands for Bollywood no doubt we Do have a H too .. Hollywood .. bollywood is nt end of life or the other ga ga around well their is no end of talent definetly he may be approached by some one else.. my votes go for chetan .
- January 10, 2010 at 7:32 PM
- Latha said...
Hi Shobhaa, well said.
I ask everybody here to please copy & paste the fol: URL in thier browser to read what Vir Sanghvi has to say about this.
- January 10, 2010 at 10:33 PM
- Latha said...
This is a very old story. Many old remakes of Tamil movies used to carry Hindi music directors' names when the songs would've been dubbed from Tamil.
R K Narayanan wasn't paid for "Guide' because he only wanted a percentage of the profit & the most successful film was shown by the Anand family as a non-profit film.
Have you heard of a writer named 'Sujata' ? He was the backbone of most of the hit films made by ace directors like Mani Rathnam, Rajiv Menon, Shankar, Kamal Hasan....I can go on & on & on. He wrote in his wife's name. He was not given credit in the titles in several films. He was sidelined in award functions. When Shankar's film 'Anniyan' bagged most of the awards of 'Filmfare', no award was given for the best writer. It was almost as if there was a conspiracy to sideline him.
Reason ? He was a genious. He was the DGM of Bharat Electronics who invented, introduced & convinced our politicians to use the electronic voting machine. He was an M Tech. Jealousy is the worst aspect of human character. When he passed away a tribute was arranged for him. Not a single director turned out. It was below their status to attend & praise him. Kamal Hasan thanked Kanimozhi for attending the function & paying her tributes to the writer despite being a busy MP. This writer did not raise his voice because he knew that it's of no use as there is a class difference in this country & people are recognised & respected by the money they make & not by their genius ! A bride is often respected by her in-laws by what she 'brings'.
Bertrand Russell was barred from teaching in a college when he was given the post. Reason: They felt that he would spoil the students because he was an atheist.
There are many unsung true heroes who have lived & died without proper recognition or by hatred during their lifetime.
- January 10, 2010 at 11:23 PM
- Suhas said...
I agree with all the points mentioned by you which dragged the film down in the 2nd half...It was a day where i saw so many underpants :D..These scenes were ubiquitous in the movie and it didnt go down well atleast with me...Also the "ALL IS WELL" scenes with the babies were a little too much. Anyways, coming to the main point..I feel the producers should have atleast mentioned that they were inspired to make this film Only because of chetans novel. This would not have done any harm to the money-raking of the film. I dont know why sometimes the film makers make mistakes which could have been easily avoided.
Shobha ji, please write about Shashi Tharoor's recent tiff with the media..Would like to hear frm u abt that.
- January 11, 2010 at 12:34 AM
- Sameer said...
Watched marathi movie "Natrang" and in the very beginnng the producers-directors give credit to author of the book, Anand Yadav, from whose book the movie is based. Shouldn't this be the same case with Chetan and his book. Something like "inspired by" or "based on" Chetan Bhagat's book should have been appropriate. I agree, Chetan learnt his lesson hard way.
- January 11, 2010 at 12:51 AM
- Rishi said...
the film was just a pop corn buy with a social message to lure the young guns to the movie...
there was less of message and more of entertainment but it is a bollywood film so maaf kiya
as for the looser.. Bhagat didn't loose much.. 5 point someone as well rest of his books are now back as Hot sales... the very next day of the controversy, the crossword had all his books lined read for sale. So monetarily he gained a lot.. excluding that he did loose it all.
however his fight will make others more aware and just may be people will get their due
and where did Dia Mirza credit come from?
- January 11, 2010 at 12:51 AM
- How do we know said...
Thank God, and i thot i was the only one dissapointed in the film.. fantastic review. And personally, i thot Sharman Joshi as an actor, was severely underused.
- January 11, 2010 at 1:38 AM
- goodluck said...
Compare R.K.Narayan with Chetan Bhagat?The former is a legend. You have become emotional and you are unable to see the cunning side of Chetan. And I know Vir Sanghvi and how he always sided with SRK against Aamir. And naturally, all these biased journalists are jumping. It all boils down to dinner invitations at Mannat. Here the wronged party is Aamir. That too for supporting his friend. And all the hell broke loose. Success has many enemies too.
- January 11, 2010 at 6:35 AM
- Vibhuti B said...
Ma'm only you could have summed up the movie and packed it off like that!
WOw, speaking out loud whats goes in the common man's mind to the tee..
Just adoooooore u!
- January 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM
- *Aham* said...
3 idiots was a nice movie. I liked it too. But the way it is being promoted - like the best thing ever that happened to indian cinema is OTT.
The film lost its dheel between real and reel.. the maanjaa of the film should have been stronger to hold the film's story upright.
I was zapped that Chetan Bhagat could write a story like taking a sick father in triple seat.. vacuum pump for bachha delivery was very innovative.. but silly and unreal.
Kareena was just an extra in the film. I feel Jassi- Mona Singh was very promising.
I dont understand Raju Hirani's fascination with men in colourful cheddi's. He did it in munna bhai and now in 3 Idiots. Kaiko... The "jahaanpana tohfaa kabool karo " ewww.... that was sick...
The film belong to the (Balaatkaari- chamtkaari) Omi Vaidya - Chatur Ramalingam. How cool a sequence was that. I almost had my stomach churned. And Virus was toh super funtoosh. Only Boman Irani can do it with so much ease.
Chetan Bhagat should have insisted in due credits before the film was made. He should have spelled out his deal in Black and White.
- January 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
- vivek_lokhande said...
Well i would go one step further and wud like to say that without the book the film would not have been what it is.............
- January 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM
- The Times Of Priya said...
3 idiiots was actually a pseudo-intellectual tashan for me
- January 11, 2010 at 1:13 PM
- K A L L U said...
I was waiting for your take on this! Enjoyed the wholesale underwear comment:-)
- January 11, 2010 at 4:09 PM
- harcharan bains said...
Saturday, January 9, 2010
Said the sun to the traveller
There is anguish in your voice and there are dark shadows around your eyes. This voice was given to you to sing songs of love and of joy. These eyes were your windows to boundless glory. There is deadwood where your heart was meant to be. These are the left overs of a life fatigued in chasing a mirage. Your legs are weary taking old mirages for new and endlessly chasing the vanishing panorama. Come, sit in thy own shade. There is no tree here but one that in your own heart has begun to sprout. There is no shade but thine own. With your own sacred blood will the plant of your life be watered. You chase love and think that you are falling in it. All chasing ceases once you fall in love - fall in love; do not fall to desire. But your eyes are tired and your head is heavy. It is, you feel, the begining of a long night. But do not despair. There is a season of flowers that waits for your soul to become a bed. Lilacs will bloom where the carcass of your empty dreams now lie. And light from the dawn of a fresh daring will fill the darkling crevices in your soul's valley. Plant a little sapling of a love reborn - of love that grows on the other's happiness, and of love that is happy to be. On your bosom will blossom a million chrysanthemum. And each flower will blossom into a million dreams. Each dream will free you from the desert chase. Put your trust in your dreams. Dreams are the only stuff worth living for; there is nothing to life except dreams -- dreams fulfilled and dreams unfulfilled. Anyone who shirks his dreams shirks his life.
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Snake and the nightingale
Said a nightingale to a snake: "There is a little poison in my heart. When its pain stings sharp, I sing and feel light as a feather. Why do you never sing?"
A cuckoo heard the nightingale, smiled and said, "Snakes have no ears and he can't hear your words."
The nightingale became pensive and said to hersel,"How sad he can't hear my songs. There is no music in his life." And she wondered if that was why the the snake had to live with so much poison in his soul. "I must find some way to help him sing," she said, and the melancholy in her song filled the valley.
The snake slithered into a dark hole. This saddened the nightingale even more. The valley reverberated with her pain all night. In the morning, the sun searched every branch, but the nightingale had disappeared. Said a little flower to the sun,"She has gone to some unknown valleys to get some music for the snake who lives here."
"Amen !" said the sun, and went about his work.
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- January 11, 2010 at 9:07 PM
- sepo said...
hello man ..!! i am an avid fan and an admirar of yours. i love ur articles and early wait for the sunday edition of TOI..!!
this sunday article abt paris and the pinapple seller was bang on..!!
nd yeah abt chetan bhagat, i think he deserves what he is asking for..!
- January 11, 2010 at 10:51 PM
- Madhu said...
i totally agree with you. The movie was likable but not lovable. I was also wondering why so many hospital scenes but the icing on the cake was the virtual-baby-delivery using a vacuum cleaner. But i guess its more symbolic, like, it is possible to be creative and save lives. in this case they were taking it a bit too far.
Also, I was so annoyed with kareena shouting "push...push". Why cant the script writer be more genuine. I mean, no one heard of woman being 10 cm dilated before she should start pushing (they were technical in other scenes)? Few scenes were total balaatkar but over all had a good laugh. So I guess thats the bottom line.
- January 11, 2010 at 10:57 PM
- Bala said...
Vinod Chopra and gang is legally correct since Chetan bhagat signed the contract to allow the credits to be placed anywhere in the film. But moralistically they have shown that they are bankcrupt.
- January 11, 2010 at 11:42 PM
- harcharan bains said...
Ms. De, if you could only explain to us what you believe is the difference between "loved" and "liked"! Anyone who is unduly concerned about being unable to "love" a movie which he or she "likes" perhaps needs to know that movies or stuff such as that is never meant to be loved -- except if you happen to belong to a yuppy class who "simply love" a certain brand of perfume or a pizza or a pepsi or motion picture. To us Godforsaken folks, Ms. De, it is obvious why we would would like your or anybody's writing without having to love it -- and yet mean no offence.
As for three idiots -- which i haven't seen as I haven't many other movies which may be "likeable or lovable" -- all I can hope is it continues to divide our country as all trivial things do. And I pray that between a Chetan Bhagat and an Amir Khan falls a shadow-(boxing)which may be infinitely more engaging than the movie itself - at least for those who insist that a movie is good only if they are able to 'love' it; simply liking wouldn't do. Forget that I immensely like but Shakespeare and Tagore and a film called Guide without having to love anyone of them to invest them with greatness. Is there a word in the English language spelt as " w a f f l e"? And what does it mean ?
- January 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM
- harcharan bains said...
Ms. De, if you could only explain to us what you believe is the difference between "loved" and "liked"! Anyone who is unduly concerned about being unable to "love" a movie which he or she "likes" perhaps needs to know that movies or stuff such as that is never meant to be loved -- except if you happen to belong to a yuppy class who "simply loves" a certain brand of perfume or a pizza or a pepsi or a motion picture. To us Godforsaken folks, Ms. De, it is obvious why we would like your or anybody's writing without having to love it -- and yet mean no offence.
As for three idiots -- which i haven't seen as I haven't many other movies which may be "likeable or lovable" -- all I can hope is it continues to divide our country as all trivial things do, providing chatters and pen-pushers opportunity to show case their occult art of splitting non-existing hair. And I pray that between a Chetan Bhagat and an Amir Khan falls a shadow(shadow-boxing?)which may be infinitely more engaging than the movie itself - at least for those who insist that a movie is good only if they are able to 'love' it; simply liking wouldn't do. And forget that one can immensely like Shakespeare and Tagore and a film called Guide without having to love anyone of them in order to invest them with greatness. Is there a word in the English language spelt as " w a f f l e"? And what does it mean ?
- January 12, 2010 at 12:34 AM
- harcharan bains said...
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- January 12, 2010 at 12:40 AM
- Shachi said...
Ahh - such a nice take on the movie Ma De :)
I agree with you.....well-made movie which could have been better if few things were excluded.
About the book, I have read the book and your take on it makes sense. He should be given due credit which he is not. However, he should have been careful about it when the negotiation n deal for the movie was done...not sure what was agreed upon at that time.
Good post!
- January 12, 2010 at 4:17 AM
- itsaugust said...
...and the fellow who broke into a spontaneous jig was Aamir not Boman!!
- January 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM
- Sasha said...
Finally!! The lady has spoken. I was waiting with bated breath for your take...and was finally begining to wonder that you just might shy away.
But good to see that shying away from controversial topics is not in your dictionary.
Back to 3i and FPS: I totally agree with your take. How much of the book the story is based on is not the issue at all. The point is that the movie IS based on the book. Story is Bhagats, screenplay is Joshis. VVC may be legally correct in what he did, but frankly, when your movie is "based on" someone's book, you should have been generous enough to suggest that his credit would go up in the opening frames. That you would negotiate it down in a contract to rolling credits at the end, shows how miserly VVC as a person is.
Secondly, VVC keeps saying that Abhijat has worked on the story himself for 2+ years. I have read the contract that VVC put up on their website. It clearly states that Bhagat will be paid a sum of 1lakh only for the story AFTER the first moving media form of the story is COMPLETED!! How hawkish is that. You BUY someone's story, lock it down for your exclusive use, your writer takes a go at it and beats it out of shape until it is bollywoodic enough for profit, then you go through pre-production drills, then you sign actors, pay them advance fees, then the movie hits the floors, you shoot, then post-production, and then first cut/editing - NOW you FINALLY pay the person who was the starting point for the whole formula. What crap is that?? Its like buying a brand new designer Kurti, altering it from your local darzi, wearing it till it grows on you, maybe even to a posh event, take some snaps in it, catches your deoderant stains, then give it to the dry cleaner, and when the snaps come out THEN FINALLY, pay the designer for his maal.
WOW, if that is not blood-sucking-hawkish behavior, I dont know what is. VVC is the scum of bollywood, and he showed it not once but thrice. Once with the miserly contract and the paltry sum he was ready to pay Bhagat, second with the location he proposed for Bhagats credit, and finally the crazy behavior with the reporters.
Since you have so many responses, I dont know if you will get to mine. I hope u do!!
the 'SO'
- January 12, 2010 at 9:36 AM
- Gajendra said...
nice movie.
Just review shobhaa, its a JUST review.
- January 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM
- Mukesh Bhatia said...
Welcome back De Maam! Its nice to see u back in ur own shoes. A critic shud always remain so. My views may differ a bit from urs, but it doesnt matter at all.
- January 12, 2010 at 12:53 PM
- patrickg said...
Shobaha Dee has has always taken potshots at Bollywood. Just like Chetan Baghat she needs Bollywood to stay in the news. I mean come on, a director who is so low profile even though his 2 previous movies have been blockbusters and a producer who has won an oscar during his rookie years surely do not have to steal the credit from a writer who was so desperate to jump onto the bandwagon once the movie was a blockbuster. Who needs whom, really?
- January 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM
- Protima said...
All i kept thinking in that labour scene( which was so unnecessary) was the AMOUNT of infection the mother and the baby were being subjected to! UGGG
I work at Deutsche and I;m surprised that Chetan dint use all the legal help he had ready access to, to get his contract watertight!I'm guesing he's kicking his ass for quitting his job at DB to have gotten such a raw deal at Bollywood
- January 12, 2010 at 6:19 PM
- George said...
Hey shobhaa im forced to ask you one question.Who is ur favorite actor/actress at the end of the day.???who according to u is a hero and if u would make any film what would the theme be based on???
- January 13, 2010 at 12:38 AM
- harcharan bains said...
what innocent questions! if our poor ms. de knew anything about films, would she be writing about them ? writers, such as ms. de, know as little about films as journalists do about politics, psychologists about loving or geographers about travelling. as the saying goes, those who can, do: those who can not , criticise. i know i am slightly misquoting the saying but i am not missing the meaning in doing so.
- January 13, 2010 at 12:49 AM
- George said...
Its sometimes stupid when a good movie is forced to be called bad because of our so called comments on it.
- January 13, 2010 at 1:04 AM
- Mehr said...
As u said "Boman as Virus hams it up to the hilt, but compensates for it all when he dances a spontaneous jig much to Kareena's delight"
it wasnt Boman dancing..it was Aamir
- January 13, 2010 at 1:32 PM
- goodluck said...
Age is catching up with Shobhaa and thus she thought its Boman dancing. And thus she missed many points. A hurried review. And she deserves PI with Uday Chopra.
- January 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM
- 3Debra said...
may be read this.......
- January 15, 2010 at 4:04 AM
- preeti said...
YEAH...i love the way u get on the subject bang on........no beating around the bush....but please don't change ur view on this later!
- January 15, 2010 at 10:42 PM
- ksasidhar said...
Is this the same Shobhaa de who once said that Aamir Kha nwas most over rated actor in Bollywood?
- January 16, 2010 at 3:39 AM
- George said...
yea preeti what u said is right but the very comments of shobhaa could actually be disturbing at times..
- January 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM
- Mukesh said...
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- January 19, 2010 at 2:29 AM
- Mukesh said...
Hi Shobha,
I think we are getting to conclusions without knowing the full picture. The same applies to me as well. :) interesting naa.
As per the 3 idiots team http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5435595.cms, chetan has got what he agreed in the contract. I think its a strong claim and if it was wrong then chetan could/would have objected immediately saying that he has not got as per the contract. His silence on this issue proves a point that he has got the credit as per the agreement but may be what was orally committed he has not got it.
I think one needs to simply go by the agreement and contract. If Chetan has a point then he should talk about whats in the contract. If he is not getting the credit as per the contract then we all should get into the act and do all it take to give chetan his due.
My message to both chetan and 3 idiots team is
Message for Chetan-
Are we becoming greedy after seeing the success of the movie: The picture may be exact copy of the book, but if you have been paid a price for that and you are getting the credit the way its mentioned in the contract, then now why sudden twist after seeing that the movie has done good business
Take it through right channel/way: If you are not getting what you were expecting then communicating through media may only reduce your chance of getting what you deserve.
Message for the Three idiots team-
Be little more generous in sharing your success: At the same time i also feel that the three idiots team could have been little more generous and should have shared their success little more with all those who were part of the film, I mean agreeing to give more credit to the author (not exactly the way he is demanding but definitely more than what is in the agreement). Giving more money to the artists who gave their best. Giving credit doesn't cost you guys anyt money. Chetan is not asking for money.
I may be wrong but this is what is my opinion.
- January 19, 2010 at 2:02 PM
- atul said...
its "five point someone" not " five point something"
- January 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM
- prashant said...
Personally, I liked 'Rocket Singh-Salesman of the Year,' than 3 idiots.
- January 27, 2010 at 8:39 PM
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- February 2, 2010 at 11:07 PM
- athi said...
pretty late in reading this. :)
I loved 3 idiots, I thought it was brillaintly made and I agree to the fact that the movie is pretty loosely based on the book by Chetan. But honestly if I ever wrote a book that was a best seller (and that had nothing to do with the movie, more people might have read it later but the book was already a milestone of sorts when it was being considered for a movie) and someone made something even loosely inspired by it, I would go crazy if I wasn't given proper credit for it. And Chetan's name was defintiely blink and miss sorts. But I guess Chetan should have been more careful. You can't even trust your own shadow nowadays.. What was he thinking??!! :)
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After several inches of lake fluff up near Lake Ontario this afternoon through Tuesday, with little to none south of the Thruway, & 1 to 3 or 4" for the corridor from the Thruway to Rt. 104. High pressure pictured above will squash out any lingering flakes Tuesday afternoon & set us up for a clear, frigid night Tuesday night into early Wednesday. Lows should dip to within a few degrees of 0 early Wednesday, before rising into the 20s during the afternoon under abundant sunshine.
On Thursday, a developing Nor'easter giving parts of the south a dicey midweek period, will likely miss us to the east, but a clipper will likely provide a little Valentine's Day wet snow for us on Friday into Friday night. Temperatures will moderate nicely into the 30s for Thursday & Friday, before we drop back into the 20s for the weekend. I don't believe it will be a big deal Friday into Friday night, but some minor accumulations I would say are definitely a possibility with some lake snow, wind & colder temps to follow later Friday night into Saturday. It should stay cold through early next week, but then we MAY see a more significant warm up, at least temporarily speaking, for the middle to end of next week. We'll see...
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I know–everything built up to a shattering climax on the twelfth day of Christmas and then I fell silent.
This was not my intention. I have buckets to share with you. Buckets. Alas, every time I sat down to show you my bucket, something would happen. I would smell smoke, or ominous noises would emanate from the plumbing. Or I would realize it was time to go to Montana.
Yes, Montana. I went to Wild Purls* in Billings for two days, to sign copies of the little book and to teach a class on Elizabeth Zimmermann's Tomten Jacket. I was excited about both events, but especially excited about the teaching. I was so exceedingly excited about the teaching that every time I imagined myself in the classroom I'd get short of breath and throw up.
As some of you know, my dear sister is a teacher. At a shockingly young age, she has already racked up years of experience in the field. She is my authority in Matters Pedagogical. I asked her whether wanting to throw up in front of the class was normal. She said yes. I asked her what to do about it. She said, don't throw up.
Thus armed with sage advice, I landed in Billings and was welcomed warmly by the crew of Wild Purls, who were wearing...
"Knitting Becomes a Habit" commemorative tour t-shirts. I was floored. I felt like Madonna, or Cher, or Barbra, or somebody else that people in this neighborhood dress like on Friday night. Quite a boost to my confidence.
The book signing was a hoot. I met all sorts of knitters, including one very young (hi, Chloë!) and an aspiring cartoonist who reminded me of myself as a child, back in the days when they had just invented lead pencils.
But I was still nervous. Seven hours is a long maiden voyage as a knitting teacher, and a quick survey at 9 o'clock revealed that among the twenty-odd students:
- only two had previously grappled with an Elizabeth Zimmermann pattern,
- one of those was an extremely experienced knitter who had already made the Tomten countless times and probably knew much more about it than I,
- only four or five had ever done two-color work,
- and two were knitters so newly-minted they were still under warranty.
In Montana, the pioneer spirit persists. These were rugged knitters. They rose to every challenge I threw at them with good humor and determination, which gave me the confidence to keep going. I may have appeared to be leading, but I felt that a good deal of the time they carried me aloft.
Nobody gave up, and at the end of the day came a crowning moment of delight: one of the new knitters, who hadn't even worked increases before that afternoon, successfully grafted the two halves of her hood together. She was beaming, and I wanted to tap dance.
Such a day. Honestly, I was sad to leave the next morning. I find that I have fallen in love with Montana. Billings is a remarkably pleasant place with incomparably down-to-earth people and a first-class yarn shop. Julia, Suzanne, Linda, Judy, Johanna, Irene and all of you who were good enough to come out for the events: a thousand thanks, and I can't wait to see you again.
Special thanks to Joseph, Suzanne's husband and a fine photographer, who took the photos and gave them to me to use. Next time, dude, we have to remember to talk about your collection of vintage cameras.
*Not to be missed when you visit is the special selection of local yarns, including Mountain Colors (of course) and splendid organics from Thirteen Mile Lamb & Wool Company. They also have their own shop-exclusive colorway from Lorna's Laces.