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Friday, June 25, 2010
TV Networks Dealing With Danica Again
It was an interesting time when Danica Patrick first began driving Nationwide Series cars for JR Motorsports. There was fan curiosity, media doubt and some incredible attention from the NASCAR TV partners.
Now, Patrick is back for another swing at racing the big cars. SPEED and ESPN both get to deal with this elephant in the room over the weekend. SPEED begins on Friday as Steve Byrnes, Larry McReynolds and Jeff Hammond call Nationwide Series practice from the New Hampshire Motor Speedway at 10:30AM ET.
After a break for Sprint Cup Series practice at 11:30AM and then lunch, the Nationwide cars come back for final practice at 1:30PM ET. Once again, it will be Byrnes, Hammond and McReynolds.
The garage reporters for both Nationwide practice sessions on Friday will be Phil Parsons and Ralph Sheheen. These are the two guys who will be facing the task of dealing with the Danica marketing and PR machine at the track. Since SPEED is the live TV network, they get first crack at Patrick after she gets out of the car.
SPEED will also present a NASCAR Live show between sessions at 1PM ET. If you cannot watch the practice, this thirty minute program will be a good way to get updated on what is going on at NHMS. John Roberts is hosting with Randy Pemberton alongside. Hermie Sadler and Bob Dillner will handle the reporting.
Here are some other TV notes for the weekend:
Jimmy Spencer is back in New Hampshire for SPEED. He will be on the Sunday 10AM RaceDay panel and will then appear on Victory Lane at 8PM ET with John Roberts and Kenny Wallace. Kyle Petty is off working for TNT.
Speaking of TNT, the network announced that Time Warner, Bright House and Comcast have signed on to carry TNT's 3D coverage of the Coke 400 from Daytona. As we know, in order to see the 3D effect you must watch on a 3DTV and also wear the famous glasses. More details on this next week.
SPEED announced that Thursday, July 1 will be the day the network announces the nominees for the 2011 NASCAR Hall of Fame class. That will be done at 8PM ET during a special presentation of Race Hub. Krista Voda, Steve Byrnes, Mike Joy and Ken Squier will all be hosting from various locations for this TV special. You may remember that SPEED is the official TV network of the Hall of Fame.
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44 comments:
- Anonymous said...
I don't understand this blog's attitude towards Danica coverage. You act like it should be a non-event and that they should just cover her like every other driver.
I guess it's a good thing you aren't in TV production any more, because what a horrible decision that would be.
Danica is the best thing to happen to the Nationwide Series since... well, ever. She is a gift that keeps on giving and I expect and hope that they will give her the full-time coverage she deserves.
- June 24, 2010 at 10:45 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Full-time coverage? Oh boy...
- June 24, 2010 at 11:14 PM
- Andrew said...
When she can wheel a car -- any car -- to a victory that isn't a fuel mileage one, then she MAY deserve the coverage she is currently getting. Right now, though, it seems way out of proportion as compared to her level of success. NASCAR want her to be a band-aid for the sports' other problems. I think that's it.
- June 25, 2010 at 12:05 AM
- Jonathan said...
I dont know im excitied to see Danica back. Im all for the full time coverage all good to me.... Nascar will get the coverage it deserves and should always get but only gets when Danica is around. Danice brings ratings and we need them big time after the past 2 weekends. WE NEED THE RATINGS BIG TIME!!! 2.9 and 2.7 isnt cutting it GO DANICA!!
- June 25, 2010 at 4:29 AM
- red said...
hmmm, let's see: danica returning to n'wide versus USA men's national soccer team playing in the world cup. hmmmm. what to do? what to do?
i'll catch up with all this after the match.
but that being said: if it gets eyes on the pre-race and those "casual fans" stay to watch the race, i'm for it. but if the networks play the "all danica, all the time" card during the race, that would be tough to take.
they can't ignore that she's there but they COULD use this as an opportunity to raise the visibility of n'wide racing and maybe, just maybe, focus on n'wide regulars instead of the cup guys.
- June 25, 2010 at 7:17 AM
- Anonymous said...
She is the most over rated, over hyped thing is sports today...along with her car owner. I couldn't care less if she's running at Loudon. She'll be lapped within 30 laps. How exciting.
- June 25, 2010 at 8:11 AM
- jamie in nc said...
andrew.....you are correct. same could be said for her boss at jr motorsports
- June 25, 2010 at 9:06 AM
- jerome said...
Danica the Best thing to happen to Nationwide-ever?1?2 Come on. There have been numerous women drivers with more talent that did not generate the hype. Andrew is right-this is all smoke and mirrors to cover up all the ills of the series. Her first three races may have boosted TV audiences, but has it helped attract sponsorship for struggling teams? Has it made the on track product any better? I believe what is happening has happened before-the casual fan is tuning in-and that is a good thing-but thety will tune out quickly once the novelty/hype goes away. What frustrates me is that there are way more talented drivers-male and female-who toil in anonymity, or do get a chance at all, because they lack the PR machine/sponsorships Danica has.It is a sad commentary on a sport I used to love. I don't even bother with nationwide races anymore and I am having a harder tiime wanting to watch a Sprint Cup race.
- June 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM
- Vicky D said...
I guess DP is good for the NW series, although I have said this all along, if the telecast only shows her then it's not good for the other drivers. We need a balanced broadcast so we can see ALL the cars on the track. We'll see what happens this weekend and how ESPN handles this. And why am I have trouble with the Visual verification? Anyone else having issues with it?
- June 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM
- JohnP said...
I was glad to see that commercial from BK. Clearly pronouncing his own name Kes-louw-ski. I see Parsons has jumped onto the DW theme of mis-pronouncing his name for some reason by calling him Kes-o-louw-ski. That's rude. Glad to see Danica back, good for the series. Hope the media do not act like DW did on TrackSide and overheat themselves live.
- June 25, 2010 at 10:44 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Giving Steve Byrnes and the SPEED guys high marks in the first NNS practice for making Danica a non-story.
- June 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM
- West Coast Diane said...
I don't want to see Danica "all the time". But, as I recall, there was a lot of coverage for Montoya when he came over. It is something "new", but should be covered in perspective to how she is performing.
Also, regarding no coverage until she wins a race "legitimately"? Well I guess that means TV will only be covering a handful of drivers in most any series, as only a handful of drivers are winning.
Thought we wanted coverage of all drivers in the field or at least a mention? :-)
- June 25, 2010 at 10:54 AM
- Anonymous said...
How dumb would NASCAR have to be to treat Danica as a non-event? As just another driver? How stupid do you think they are?
This is just a preview of what it will be like when Danica comes to Cup. And, boy will that be exciting.
I wonder if the reason Robby Gordon is skipping NH is because he is busy meeting with a financial advisor to plan what he's going to do with all the money he gets when Danica buys his #7 so she can keep the number in Cup.
- June 25, 2010 at 11:09 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Isn't she just another NNS driver? Are you watching the coverage?
- June 25, 2010 at 11:16 AM
- JohnP said...
Anon 11:09 - Interesting thought because Robby Gordon is in fact not listed on the entry list for Loudon on Nascar.com for this race. She would not buy it, but Stewart or Waltrip just might with her as "owner". But, that's how rumors start. Just interesting Gordon is not their this weekend.
- June 25, 2010 at 11:21 AM
- West Coast Diane said...
Bobby Labonte is in the 7 car for Robbie G. this weekend.
- June 25, 2010 at 11:25 AM
- Anonymous said...
No, Danica is not just another NNS driver, and anyone who thinks so is naive.
Now, Willie Allen - there's just another NNS driver!
Let's say you are the producer in the booth. Let's say you have already interviewed Danica on the air at the top of the broadcast, and now 45-minutes in you get two reports: One is that a reporter is with Danica for some comments on how things went, and Two is that a reporter is with Willie Allen, who not only never gets interviewed - but I wonder if anyone who reads this blog even knows who he is.
Now, if you are in the booth and you choose Allen over Danica because Allen hasn't been covered yet, you are doing a disservice to all the people watching at home. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WILLIE ALLEN BUT THE ENTIRE RACING WORLD IS WATCHING DANICA!
Just another NNS driver? PUHLEAZE
- June 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM
- Anonymous said...
I think the coverage of Danica is totally appropriate.
Why? Because she is a star!
It no different than if Jimmie Johnson races in Rolex series and gets tons more attention than someone who has been racing in that series for years. Or if Ryan Newman shows up at some local dirt track and races, he gets way more coverage.
It's all about what the driver brings, and in this case, Danica brings star power. That isn't something you can manufacture, and it isn't something that the Busch series has had in years.
- June 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM
- hotaru-hockeymaiden87 said...
Anon 12:01- It's the same problem with the Cup drivers, only with less stat-related coverage and more hype.
I got up late, but watched a bit. It was nice NOT to see that violent electric green car every other car. :)
- June 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM
- Anonymous said...
She's one media personality I don't mind watching. Afterall, NA$CAR is simple entertainment like the WWE. If it means we see less of Michael Waltrip, I'm all for it!
- June 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM
- longtimeracefan said...
Speed's coverage of the first Nationwide practice session Friday morning was a well produced, matter-of-fact, typical report. Good on them, no Danica mania there.
Patrick ran the most laps (35) but was second to last on the speed charts, 1.22 sec. behind Steve Wallace, the fastest non-Cup regular. It will be interesting to see how much, if any, she picks up in the afternoon session.
What was not shown on TV, and where the mania began, was the coverage of the driver's media interviews which began at 9:30 am online at nascar.com and included, in order: Harvick, Kyle B, Edwards, Burton, Martin, Johnson, Stewart and ended with Danica.
The media's, print/online/photo, interaction with the various drivers was interesting to watch. From the perspective of a single static camera shot, with sometimes poor sound, it almost seemed like you were in the cramped looking room. But the biggest difference was the way everyone reacted to Cup boys and the new girl.
Danica's session went on almost twice as long as the regular 15 minutes. It was actually fun to watch and ended with the track manager, Jerry Gappens, presenting Danica with a pair of cool looking high heel shoes. She was then introduced, for the first time, to track owner Bruton Smith, was just happened to be in the audience.
Danica mania is alive and well, it just wasn't show on TV . . . yet.
- June 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
It fascinates me to see the media complaining about the amount of media attention Danica is getting.
- June 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM
- Anonymous said...
I see this as a win/win situation. Danica single-handedly saves NASCAR from oblivion. And I am bombarded by so many Go Daddy lascivious commecials that I can cancel my subscription to the Playboy channel.
- June 25, 2010 at 1:38 PM
- Vicky D said...
I just noticed the practice speeds on nascar.com and DP was 43rd but I think she's already guaranteed a starting spot so her time doesn't mean much except maybe being lapped in the 30th lap of the race. She needs to pedal faster.
- June 25, 2010 at 1:47 PM
- Anonymous said...
Is it by chance that DW is not on Pre Race the weekend she is back, was she and everyone else too creaped out by DW behavior around on her on trackside.
I know I was....
- June 25, 2010 at 1:49 PM
- megan Steele said...
What ? No interview with Lady
Danica ? U talk about a wasted
But we all get a chance to hear
Ralph Shaneen scream and yell with
the voice from hell.
- June 25, 2010 at 2:05 PM
- JohnP said...
@ West Coast Diane.. Thanks about the 7. Not like me to jump on a comment like that. Got a case of dummy today I guess.
Have enjoyed the day with speed (had the day off). It's so great to see Larry Mac away from his normal group. His broadcasting and maturity level goes up a lot.
- June 25, 2010 at 2:08 PM
- Martin Vincent said...
During the Sprint Cup practice coverage earlier today, one of the announcers said Clint Bowyer's #33 Zaxby's-sponsored car was possibly the first "chicken car" in the Cup Series since Stroker Ace in Clyde Torkle's Chicken Pit car (I know, it was fictional).
Actually, Rich Bickle drove a #26 KFC car for Darrell Waltrip in the 1997 Brickyard 400.
- June 25, 2010 at 2:50 PM
- GinaV24 said...
I was flipping through channels when I got a chance to sit down last night - found Race Hub - just in time for them to "talk" to Danica via satellite. I promptly switched to another channel.
Since the focus of all the tv coverage will be Danica, Danica, Danica, I am very glad that I have a ton of personal things to do this weekend so I don't have time to watch the Nationwide race.
If they would cover her like she's just a regular driver, I wouldn't mind so much but its like hearing one song played too much on the radio -- its easy to get sick of it.
- June 25, 2010 at 3:04 PM
- GinaV24 said...
Vicky - I'm having trouble with the word veri too
I hope that my favorite driver has retired from NASCAR by the time that Danica comes to cup, then I won't have to watch the races or hear her name.
- June 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Gina, turned it off. Sorry for the hassles.
- June 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM
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- June 25, 2010 at 4:41 PM
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- June 25, 2010 at 4:48 PM
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- June 25, 2010 at 4:50 PM
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- June 25, 2010 at 4:53 PM
- GinaV24 said...
No problem, JD, its been acting a little wonky for the past couple of days.
Hey Anon -- I didn't say that I hated her, I said I didn't want to listen to the media talk about her. If you want to, it's a free country and you can, so enjoy.
But I get to choose who I root for, too!
and if you want to talk about being hated -- try being a long time Gordon fan. Believe me, I've seen HATE first hand, up close and personal. From the guy who told me he hoped my driver crashed and burned to having a full beer can thrown directly at me.
So while I may not be a fan of Danica or want to hear the media fawn over her every word and the camera follow her every move to the detriment of other drivers out there who are also deserving of attention, I am a very long way off from hating her.
- June 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM
- OSBORNK said...
I think Danica may do harm to the Nationwide Series. The constant attention to Danica is at the expense of all of the other drivers and their sponsors. Why would a sponsor spend their money on a Nationwide team when they will be totally ignored? Sponsors spend their money for exposure and even if the ratings are up, what good does it do if there is no exposure?
- June 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM
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- June 25, 2010 at 7:49 PM
- Darcie said...
Why does Danica "deserve" the coverage for the Nationwide Series? What has she actually done? Sure, she's a master at showing her "brand" and marketing her body, but what has she really done to deserve all the attention in racing? She's been driving in a watered down series with very few great drivers. She races with 20 other cars during a very short racing season. She's won ONE race, on a fuel mileage gamble (which points to a very smart crew chief and not driving skill) were most of the good drivers stayed back in the USA. So, again, what has she proven in racing?
Until/unless she actually produces results on the track, she should be treated like any other back marker, human chicane, driver. When she wins a Nascar race, then give her credence, but not until then.
- June 25, 2010 at 8:35 PM
- Anonymous said...
Why does Danica "deserve" the coverage for the Nationwide Series?
I'll tell you why: Because ESPN reported that ticket sales at NHMS are up more than 30% for the Saturday race.
I'm sorry, but I can't think of any driver in the world who could spur that kind of ticket sales. Seriously, if AJ Foyt announced he would try a comeback race in the NNS, of if Jeff Gordon said he would do a Nationwide race, or if Michael Schumacher announed he would race a stock car at NHMS, or name any star past or present in racing... I don't think any or all of them could increase ticket sales by 30% for the Saturday race.
Now, that unusual uptick in fan interest may be unwarranted -- but you cannot ignore it!!!
- June 26, 2010 at 2:57 AM
- Bobby said...
Although she was one of a few drivers to play the alcohol fuel management strategy at the end of Motegi, she outsmarted the League's other major superstar, Hélio Castroneves, because he blundered on his alcohol conservation game.
What's wrong with fuel conservation games, besides? This is an endurance race, not a sprint. Beating your opponent by taking one fewer stop than your opponents is racing. It's the hare and the tortoise again. And she was competitive at Texas recently.
Don't forget the past year and a half. the entire Andretti Autosport was shut out of the winner's circle until Kaanan's win.
- June 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM
- Zieke said...
Danica's going to put lots of fans in the seats, so I guess it's a good thing for NASCAR.
- June 26, 2010 at 11:16 AM
- Anonymous said...
OSBORNK said...
I think Danica may do harm to the Nationwide Series. The constant attention to Danica is at the expense of all of the other drivers and their sponsors. Why would a sponsor spend their money on a Nationwide team when they will be totally ignored? Sponsors spend their money for exposure and even if the ratings are up, what good does it do if there is no exposure?
Wow..this logic is plain scary...
Higher ratings..more media coverage..more press..more stories on Nationwide series....No none of this will help other sponsors???
If she races full-time, sponsors will flock to the series..
- June 26, 2010 at 12:18 PM
- Lisa Hogan said...
I find it difficult at times:
"Don't feed the trolls" :)
- June 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM


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Where limbs and bodies bend, the bend is usually in the middle of what's bending-not organic.
The details start to wrap around the circles.
The forms get a little more organic.
Ward Kimball and others animated some really fun cartoony stuff in Toby Tortoise Returns.
Grim Natwick brings the East Coast stronger design sense to some shorts.
Characters get more detailed, but the details follow the forms.
Characters get more organic, yet still flow around structured forms.
The animators experiment with more interesting designs.
Doing caricatures forces you out of drawing formula shapes. Animation is such easy prey to formula. Animators should constantly caricature in the hunt for new shapes and ideas to keep us from falling into habit. APPLY THE NEW FACIAL FEATURES TO YOUR ANIMATION DRAWINGS!
Construction becomes a science of hierarchy. This cactus is an overall shape that is then broken into 2 main pieces plus limbs.
This is good. No one does this anymore.
Each of those forms in turn are broken into sub forms. All these sub forms within larger forms obey the same direction and perspective of the larger forms.
Remember the concept of HIERARCHY. It applies to good stylized drawings too.
Hierarchies of forms.
Line of action
Clear staging
Squash and stretch and overlapping action (freeze frame their cheek movements and see if you don't get ashamed of what you're thinking!)
Organic everything.
This is the approach and high standard that evolved in the 1930s and influenced everything in animation all the way to today.
Bill Tytla more than anyone else combined all the principles and kept his characters looking very weighty and solid, yet organic at the same time.
It takes a ton of control to be able to make so many concepts work at once.
Everyone in the late 1930s aimed for this high standard of multiple principles and hierarchy of forms. It was too much for many animators but they nobly aimed high anyway.
Here is a weaker animator imitating the Disney style superficially, but he doesn't have the drawing skill needed to control all the skills at once, so his animation and drawing appear sloppy and the features float loosely around the bigger forms.
Even Anime can be traced back to 30s Disney.
Ugly trends begin....
An audience is much more nitpicky when watching art that approaches an imitation of reality.
That's why humans always look so bad in cartoons. 2D or CG.
Art and animation needs to caricature life to make its point. This kind of drawing-the stiff animation "realistic" style is an "underture". It is less specific and cartoony than reality.
He forces Grim Natwick-a great cartoony animator to waste a few years of what could have been a creative explosion for him, if only Walt had encouraged his natural talents.
This insanity-animating generic designs with tall proportions and bland expressions - one of Walt's greatest follies has horribly influenced animation down to this day.
Here's what's left after you subtract all of the great animation principles of the 1930s and leave only Walt's poor taste:
I removed the Batman image, because I don't want the comments to degenerate into a discussion about superhero "cartoons".
The age of mannequins with rectangular holes in their faces that annoying voices come out of.
NEXT-1940S, COASTING ON PRINCIPLE at Disney's, developing specific variations derived from principles at Warner's.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008
Awesome Oats
I microwave 1/2 cup oats, 1 cup water, and a dash of salt. Then I stir in one or two tablespoons of the chocolate peanut butter after cooking. This time, it didn't seem sweet enough so I drizzled some agave over the top.
Inspired by a post from Shelby at La Belle Vegan, I tried Pumpkin Pie Oats this morning:
This was like eating pumpkin pie for breakfast, only with oats in it (which I guess seems like a rather obvious description, but sue me). I used a bit of homemade pumpkin pie spice (cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, and allspice), 3 tablespoons of canned pumpkin, Earth Balance, and a liberal drizzle of maple syrup. Suffice to say, I'll be eating this again in the morning.
38 comments:
- thedalyn said...
I'm also more of a savory breakfast person, but the pumpkin oats look and sound like they're worth trying.
I think I'm in love with Ozzie. I have a soft spot for brown tabbies...
- October 10, 2008 at 12:15 AM
- Amey said...
mmmm. I like oatmeal in the cold months. that dark chocolate peanut butter sounds freaky good. I'll look for it.
ozzie is cute!
- October 10, 2008 at 12:32 AM
YUM! I never have time for oats in the AM, but those oats might be worth getting up for!
- October 10, 2008 at 12:47 AM
- Celine said...
ha! I'd act exactly like kitty and dig my head in there, too.
- October 10, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Ozzie is sooo adorable! Oh, I'm sorry, were we talking about food or something? Blinded by kittie-cute!
- October 10, 2008 at 6:48 AM
- Lisa (Show Me Vegan) said...
Love your photo of curious Ozzie!
- October 10, 2008 at 7:05 AM
- Lisa -- Cravin' Veggies said...
Great idea for the coming cold months...
My cats are always trying to dig in too... silly things!
- October 10, 2008 at 7:08 AM
Those oats are gorgeous. I love peanut butter in mine too, but I have never seen the chocolate kind. Too cool! Pumpkin pie is also a fav so I will give that delicious recipe a try. Thanks for sharing as always! Ozzy is a rockin' little kitty!
- October 10, 2008 at 7:49 AM
- Shenandoah Vegan said...
Oh Ozzie!!!! I hope to see more of your kitties.
- October 10, 2008 at 7:54 AM
- VeggieGirl said...
Scrumptious oats!!!
Aww, Ozzie :0)
- October 10, 2008 at 8:15 AM
- jelymo said...
i love the pumpkin pie oats recipe. i'll be trying that! as for choco-oats, i just throw a handful of chocolate chips in the oatmeal after it has been cooked. yummy!
- October 10, 2008 at 8:59 AM
I love your oatmeal combinations! They are so simple and look so good. I usually throw whatever I can get my hands on in the pot of oatmeal. I'm so glad you tried pumpkin oats, they are so delicious.
- October 10, 2008 at 9:02 AM
- Jennifer (of Veg*n Cooking) said...
I would have never thought to stir something like that into my oats. And dark chocolate peanut butter? Count me in! We usually do savory breakfasts here too - or just fruit.
That pumpkin one sounds like it might be good too. Pumpkin is something that I never used to like, but my tastes have changed so much since going veg, perhaps I should give it a shot.
- October 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM
- evestirs said...
dark chocolate peanut butter....mmmm
- October 10, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Love both of those. But not as much as Ozzie.
- October 10, 2008 at 11:23 AM
- jennconspiracy said...
Aww.. good kitty, eat your oatmeal!
- October 10, 2008 at 1:54 PM
- Cyn said...
Oooh, pumpkin oatmeal sounds delicious, and I am generally not an oatmeal person. Plus your kitty is so adorable!
- October 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM
- Happy Herbivore! said...
I live on oatmeal in the winter :) I have been meaning to try pumpkin oatmeal since it started popping up on blogs... yours is just another reason for me to wish it would cool off in los angeles!
don't even start me on that pb. i think we own every vegan flavor they make. (and i feel like i just left that same note on someone elses blog recently! mofo madness!)
- October 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM
- River said...
Kitty McCutie!! You know those oats have to be good if they are the Ozzie seal of approval!
- October 10, 2008 at 5:58 PM
- jessy said...
did you say chocolate peanut butter?! holy shit - really?! i swear i live in a cave (under a rock), Bianca! mmmmmmmmm! i put regular peanut butter in my oatmeal with some jam on top, but i'm gonna have to get some chocolate peanut butter! wow! your kitty = the cutest! and the pumpkin oatmeal sounds soooooo good! i need to get some pumpkin soon, too! pumpkin, chocolate peanut butter - yeah, i need those! superw00t!
- October 10, 2008 at 6:59 PM
- ChocolateCoveredVegan said...
Can I distract you and steal your yummy-looking oatmeal? Hmmm, looks like I will have to distract your smart kitty as well!
- October 10, 2008 at 7:33 PM
- alaina said...
that is the best peanut butter ever.
i usually plop a spoonful in the middle of my oatmeal and get a little bit with each bite :)
- October 10, 2008 at 7:57 PM
- Lauren said...
omg arent those flavored peanut butters the most awesome things EVER? haha ive tried them all except the maple one..but i really neeeed to! and ozzie is so cute, he'd be friends with ziggy..definitely =)
- October 10, 2008 at 9:27 PM
- Monika K said...
Oats and breakfast seem like the perfect fall combination. Now if only it would stop snowing here... (:
- October 11, 2008 at 12:28 AM
- Alice (in Veganland) said...
pumpkin pie for breakfast :-)
If only we had pumpkin puree cans in Germany...
- October 11, 2008 at 12:33 PM
- Urban Vegan said...
I love the idea of PB in oatmeal--that adds a whole new dimension to it.
Ozzie looks a lot like BossaNova.
- October 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Oats and peanut butter? What an excellent idea!
- October 12, 2008 at 3:34 AM
- Green Eyes, Green Heart said...
Oatmeal kicks ass. It's so versatile.
Confession: I sometimes just eat uncooked oats. Just grab a punchful from the container with the old guy on the front and shove it in my mouth. Very chewy. :)
- October 12, 2008 at 8:42 AM
- The Vegan Snorkeler said...
I love oatmeal for breakfast in the fall. I usually put maple syrup on it or sometimes brown sugar. I'll have to try your excellent ideas soon!
- October 12, 2008 at 11:42 AM
- Peace, Love and Veganism said...
I looove oatmeal! That pumpkin pie version looks amazing. Gotta' try that soon...Good luck with your cookbook! We really need a vegan Paula Deen ;)
- October 12, 2008 at 3:03 PM
- Avery Yale Kamila said...
Wow, those oats look amazing! I've got to break away from my blueberry addiction and try some other toppings on my oats.
- October 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM
- Melisser; the Urban Housewife said...
I've never made breakfast oats, but you sure make them sound good!
- October 13, 2008 at 3:47 AM
- Vegan On Stage said...
that looks amazinggggg... i am obsesed wtih pumpkin pie! and for breakfats!>! cant beat it!
- October 13, 2008 at 10:36 PM
- Zoey said...
Hi Bianca,
Your oatmeal looks delicious. I might make pumpkin pie oatmeal tomorrow morning, it sounds incredible. I also love the picture of your cat sniffing the oatmeal, he's a cutie.
- October 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM
- T said...
oooh, I have that stuff and it rocks. I just really need a vega croissant to slather it on.
- October 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM
- Vegan_Noodle said...
I am so ready to do this with my oatmeal! I have dark chocolate dreams that I need to use....
- October 14, 2008 at 12:04 AM
- funwithyourfood said...
if you want to make it REALLY sweet try adding some dark chocolate chips :).. it's amazing.. and hey, doesn't dark chocolate have antioxidants or something actually healthy for you in it?? lol
- October 14, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Must be something about the cooler weather, but I've been having oats in the morning recently, too. Peanut butter stirred into oatmeal is the best, but I can see how CHOCOLATE peanut butter would be even better!
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Rmcandlelight asked how to apply eyeshadow to the inner corners of your eyes without making it look messy, and I use Essence of Beauty's double-ended eyeshadow applicators to apply to the small spots such as the inner corner of the eye:
So here's a look I finally did using the Ben Nye Palette:
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RAINBOW EYES FOTD: Using the Ben Nye Palette
Rmcandlelight asked how to apply eyeshadow to the inner corners of your eyes without making it look messy, and I use Essence of Beauty's double-ended eyeshadow applicators to apply to the small spots such as the inner corner of the eye:
44 comments
- ellie said...
wow ness, you look so beautiful! i love this look & i usually dont like "rainbow type" eyes..but this look is just gorgeous! nice job :) oh and ur bunny is adorable!! i love the pic of her and jon hehe.
- April 26, 2008 at 5:13 PM
- christy. said...
Oooh I really like this one :)
- April 26, 2008 at 5:21 PM
- ilurvemakeup said...
Gorgeous! :) I just lurve Ben Nye!
Awww bunny :)
- April 26, 2008 at 5:56 PM
- klaudea said...
The baby bun looks adorable! They grow up fast! Just wait until they hit puberty and then you're gonna know for sure if it's a boy or girl. Don't forget to get him/her spayed or neutered otherwise they start acting out!!
And girl you really know how to work those colors. DAMN. If i attempted that I would look like a parrot exploded on my face... AMAZING.
- April 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM
- Nic Nic said...
it's beautiful!! immaculate blending as always! and your bunny is sooo cute :)
- April 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM
- Anonymous said...
wow! what lovely colors you've chosen! it looks really good and still tasteful at the same time! Where did you get the double tip eye applicators? i need to get some!
- April 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM
- Nanzy said...
very pretty :)
- April 26, 2008 at 7:31 PM
- Chloen said...
- April 26, 2008 at 8:42 PM
- Anonymous said...
wow.. so pretty,, and you can barely see that you're wearing false lashes,,,, expert job
- April 26, 2008 at 8:59 PM
- Askmewhats said...
Oh my goodness..it looks totally sexy on you..you looked sooo beautiful :) nice job!!!
- April 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM
- MakeupByRenRen said...
gorgeous! i love that palette! and ur bunny is soooooooo cute!
- April 26, 2008 at 11:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
Some bunny loves you! Baby animals are the cutest. Watch out when she gets older... some rabbits like to nibble/bite at ankles (ouch).
- April 27, 2008 at 12:06 AM
- Jenny said...
Hi Nessa! I'm really not a fan of rainbow looks, but your version is seriously amazing because it's wearable!! love it. I'm definitely picking up Ben Nye's palette because of this look! Thanks!
- April 27, 2008 at 2:05 AM
- Anonymous said...
your bunny is cute and you are just drop-dead gorgeous... as always! :-*
- April 27, 2008 at 8:14 AM
- BeautyTalk said...
You look like you had so much fun with this.
- April 27, 2008 at 9:08 AM
- Sanna said...
That is so gorgeous!
And the little bunny are sooooo adorable!
- April 27, 2008 at 9:17 AM
- Anonymous said...
absolutely beautiful, this is my fav look so far!
now I'm dying to own that palette!
and that lipgloss
- April 27, 2008 at 9:29 AM
- psychoexgirlfriend said...
Hey Vanessa, great take on the rainbow eye! Your blending is superb. How do you choose which blush and which lipstick/gloss to pair with such a colour eye?
- April 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM
- Sher said...
I LOVE this look! I might try it out later!
- April 27, 2008 at 11:48 AM
- brittni said...
The tangerine color is hot! verrry nice job... is it just the angle that makes one eye look like it has more yellow further in tho?
- April 27, 2008 at 12:14 PM
- jie-jie said...
I love how you pull off these Bright colors. Looking pretty as always Vanessa!
- April 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM
- Bonnie said...
Hey, if you buy the monistat chafing gel at walmart, do you know which department/aisle would it be in?
- April 27, 2008 at 12:43 PM
- Vanessa said...
Thanks ladies!
Hi Brittni- Yeah I tried my best to get the other yellow on the other eye to show up but the other eye came out much more prominent, you can sorta see both in the pic with just the pair of eyes, but it's still hard to see it...
Bonnie- Monistat is obviously originally for feminine needs, so the chafing gel should be where the tampon aisle is located along with the douche's like Summer's Eve, and Yeast Infections...
- April 27, 2008 at 12:56 PM
- Shayela said...
Nessa, how are you pulling that off? The rainbow colors look BEAUTIFUL on you!
Also, your bunny is adorable :]
- April 27, 2008 at 1:17 PM
- Cassandra L said...
this is crazy!! your blending is amazing.... great job!!!!
- April 27, 2008 at 3:31 PM
- MeaganMonster said...
Great look, I love it.
It's not so over the top that it's unwearable either... which is what I usually see when someone wears more than 3 colours of eyeshadow.
Your lips look fab too! I'll have to hunt for that NYX lipgloss... haven't been able to find it yet.
And the little bun-bun is SO cute.
I think it's a girlie too.
- April 27, 2008 at 4:40 PM
- Fabu-less Beauty said...
Your bunny is so adorable! How big will she grow up to be? And what kind of rabbit is she?
- April 27, 2008 at 5:22 PM
- Gee said...
This is beautiful! I love the green shades on the bottom!
The bunny is still so small!
- April 27, 2008 at 5:30 PM
- Anonymous said...
Ooooh, that look is smokin hot! I could never blend colours like you do!
- April 27, 2008 at 5:33 PM
- Anonymous said...
I'd like to know how often and how do you wash your applicators and brushes?
I just fell in love with your blog, so if you didn't already have a Finnish reader now you have! :)
- April 27, 2008 at 10:25 PM
- Christiana Divine @ Memoirs of A Shopping Addict said...
very pretty sis! :) i've never tried rainbow eyes... i'm too scared but your rainbow eyes always look so great on you! :D
- April 27, 2008 at 10:33 PM
- ladystarr said...
beautiful! one of the best "rainbow eyes" i've seen...I absolutely adore this!
- April 28, 2008 at 2:32 AM
- klaudea said...
Hey thanks for the comment! I'm glad to find another bunny mommy thats also into colors like me! My girl likes to hop around my feet while I do my makeup in the bathroom. I hope you and the bf will enjoy the delights of having a long eared friend!
- April 28, 2008 at 4:45 AM
- Meredith said...
Absolutely beautiful, as usual! I love the colors together, and is such a bright and pretty look now that spring and summer are here! I absolutely love your little bunny too! I always wanted one when I was growing up, and you have given me the itch to get one myself! :)
- April 28, 2008 at 5:31 AM
- Liz said...
Another great FOTD from a gorgeous gal!
your baby bunny and your hunny are sooooo cute!
- April 28, 2008 at 5:54 AM
- the Muse said...
you look gorgeous 'nes!
simply gorgeous!
and awww that bunny so cute :)
- April 28, 2008 at 8:13 AM
- shades of hue said...
Yummy! You look good enough to eat! Reminds me of Skittles my little boy loves. ;-)
- April 28, 2008 at 11:34 AM
- Anonymous said...
I was wondering if you have faux lashes on?
Can you do a look with Chrome Yellow (MAC)and black.
Any dazzle glass comments?
- April 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM
- Vanessa said...
Hi AB! Yes I have falsies on, I am not sure what type they are, but I know they are Ardell's.
I will definitely do a look soon using yellow and black.
If you type in the search box on my site "Dazzleglass" you will find my review and swatches on it. :)
- April 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM
- gremlin said...
that is beautiful. i know you use model in a bottle to set your makeup, but in this coming heat do you think that the colors will remain unspoiled?
- April 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM
- IchigoBunnie said...
your bunny is SO FREAKIN ADORABLEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! aaa! so tiny and cute!!!! *squeel*
- April 28, 2008 at 5:33 PM
- Bliss said...
Your Rainbow eyes is simply gorgeous and the colour combo is fabulous, awww your bunny is too cute like that :D
- April 29, 2008 at 5:56 AM
- rmcandlelight said...
Thanks for the tip on how to apply the shadow to the inner corner.
- April 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM
- (g)ezebel said...
WOW!!! gorgeous!!!!
- April 30, 2008 at 3:00 PM


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Wednesday, November 12, 2008
"The Switch" Goes Viral
In this new age where everyone with a keyboard can publish globally, there is no professional sport that has more amateur newshounds than NASCAR. The reason is very simple. NASCAR is the only major professional sport that does not police the Internet.
They are, however, vigilant to the second where use of NASCAR footage on TV is concerned. One phone call from NASCAR and some TV station or producer is given the choice of writing a check or heading for court. But, for some reason, anyone can use the NASCAR logo and even post race footage with audio on the Internet with absolutely no problem.
What Internet users can also do is say almost anything without expecting a response from NASCAR. The primary reason would be that NASCAR is not in the Internet business at all. NASCAR.com is a licensed property run by the Turner Interactive group out of Atlanta, GA. It is what is often called a "third party" website.
The number one email question sent to TDP is how can a fan send an email to NASCAR? The answer was addressed in this column (click here) and told the tale of an organization that refuses to directly engage their own consumers.
While this lack of direct Internet communication had done nothing more harmful than glut the market with NASCAR video and commentary sites, the situation has now changed in a hurry. One network TV switch from ABC to ESPN2 of a race in-progress has caused an Internet snowball that is still heading downhill and picking up steam.
Perhaps, it is the frustration of two years of basically crummy Chase for the Championship coverage by the hype-driven NASCAR on ESPN gang. Perhaps, it is the late start times and the fact that so many fans now record the races for later viewing. Whatever the situation, the story of ABC's "big switch" has gone viral and is now an Internet sensation.
My late friend Scotty Connal was smack dab in the middle of NBC's decision to remove a live NFL football game from the air to start the movie "Heidi." What ABC and ESPN did was nothing even close to that move and yet the "Heidi" incident from decades ago has been compared endlessly on the Internet to the Phoenix network switch.
Amateur websites with official-looking NASCAR logos are talking openly about ESPN being dropped from the TV contract for next season. Well, that would be news to NASCAR and ESPN. Others are talking about Brian France being outraged at the TV network. Well, that was not what I heard from Mr. France on the NASCAR teleconference. Disappointment and outrage are two very different things.
Viral is a term for a story or video that crisscrosses the Internet growing larger and larger with every listing, posting and re-write. Now, the ABC switch had been tied to everything from lack of respect for the sport to the ABC executives not being NASCAR fans.
The way to stop this is simple. Offer direct interaction with the fans and continue to apologize and explain. The only problem is NASCAR has nowhere to do that. They have no TV network, no website of their own and no daily podcast. The don't even have a little free Google blog like this one.
The only story at NASCAR.com uses Mr. France's quotes and then links to the full transcript of his teleconference. There are no comments allowed on the story page. Checking the ESPN.com NASCAR homepage results in no mention of "the big switch" at all.
Hopefully, over the off-season NASCAR will have a nice big meeting and re-direct its Internet philosophy. Developing a way to communicate directly with the fans through an Internet destination is going to be key to helping the sport through 2009.
This effort will not interfere with the Turner operation and will not detract from the fine video work of The NASCAR Media Group. What it must do, however, is build a bridge to the disenfranchised fans who may just need that personal touch to continue to devote 38 weekends a year to NASCAR on TV.
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- Dot said...
JD, when viral NASCAR info is all over the internet, isn't this what the "casual" fan is reading? There's alot of misinformation out there. I would think the Emperor on down would rather have some control over it. But then, we'd have only their spin on it.
Since we get to vent on your respected site, I'm sure the suits are reading all of our rants. It would be nice to actually get a response from them though.
- November 12, 2008 at 9:15 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
That is what it all comes down to Dot, they have no place to respond directly to the fans.
The model they built for new media needs to be tweaked in the off-season.
That is why I respectfully suggested that Mr. France appear on the NASCAR Countdown show before Phoenix.
NASCAR has no direct access to TV or the Internet. What a tough spot to be in as a company.
- November 12, 2008 at 9:19 PM
- Bill H said...
What a tough spot to be in as a company.
Once the checkered flag waves next Sunday their "tough spot" will get a little tougher. I will not be drinking the kool-aid next year and paying $220 for Hotpass and Trackpass. Perhaps I will get out of the house on Sunday next year instead of sitting around watching a steak rot on the tv.
Nascar and its partners in their quest for the all mighty dollar has ruined what was a money making venture for them. Like traders on the stock market, I am getting out before it hits rock bottom. I am sure I am not the only one who will be doing it either.
As for "The Switch". It's time for Nascar to "man up" and say something. Ignoring it will not make it go away. Even if it is something as simple as, "We were blinded by all the money and didnt read the fine print that gives our broadcast partners the right to do whatever they want to our sport. BTW did you see the new Jet I got?"
Bill H
- November 12, 2008 at 9:34 PM
- Kyle said...
JD, just to let you know where the rumor was started...
Apparently, a few fans got in touch with the "NASCAR Headquarters" and many spoke to one of the Public Relations people who said that the suits at NASCAR are really upset about ESPN not showing practices and things like that. Then they go and change the programming. Which apparently NASCAR received higher ratings then that stupid America's "Funniest" Home Videos (which is just staged events of people throwing things through windows that they were going to take out anyway).
I think NASCAR has begun to take about half of a pinky toe into this. They have had many site with NASCAR in the URL (I know from experience) remove it from the URL and redirect it to NASCAR.com. But aside from that, nothing has been done. There are too many sites like Jayski that post about anything. I personally used to have the same problem with mine. But it is too hard anymore to seperate an actual rumor from a rumor that was pulled out of midair because of everything that circulates the internet these days. So sticking with the truth is the best way to go with me personally.
Like you said, anyone can go to blogger, wordpress, etc. and create a blog that is open to millions. Wordpress, for example, is really good with search engines and actually has its own search engine built in.
Anyone can start a rumor and say Gordon leaving HMS for DEI in 2009. Yes, most people will hopefully know that that is not going to happen. I doubt that its going to end before 2014 comes in. Maybe somewhere like 2010 or 2011, but there wouldn't be enough time to get another Network on and advertise it. Plus, the only network that would really be available is NBC, and I think we can remember the fuss about them. And Speed is not in nearly enough homes yet.
- November 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM
- Kyle said...
Didn't complete the thought in the last comment. The second part of why the rumor was caused was that the PR rep said that NASCAR could be looking at changes, and/or eluding to that.
- November 12, 2008 at 9:52 PM
- Skip said...
I think the reason that there's been such an outcry over this is simple. A large percentage of us are Tivo-ing or otherwise recording the races due to the extremely late start times. I know that I do for every single race. About half the time I'll watch the race during the evening, and about half the time I'll start the race 60-90 minutes in, which usually results in seeing the end of the race just about live.
So guess what, ESPN. You lost me for this season. I'm not watching either of the final two races on your network. It's not that great a loss because the nationwide races are usually not very good, and we know that the cup race is going to be nothing but a closeup on the 48 for the entire race. Or maybe a split-screen of the 48 in-car camera and the exterior shot. But still, if they hadn't thumbed their noses at us I'd have watched it.
NASCAR needs to realize that when they make changes that cause people to switch from 'plan my Sunday afternoon around watching the race' to 'maybe I'll watch it if I'm not busy', they may never get those fans back. And to pull this post semi-back on topic, if they had better interaction with the fans on the internet, maybe they'd realize this.
- November 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM
- darbar said...
What is Nascar afraid of? Why do they refuse to join the computer age and modernize their sport? They're not going to hear anything different than they already hear from their disillusioned fan base via other means. Sticking their collective heads in the sand doesn't change reality. The sport is sinking, their corporate sponsorships continue to shrink, and despite the fact that their beloved COT, which was supposed to level the playing field and reduce costs, has been shown to be a failure in those respects. When you add the unfavorable reviews of the coverage from their contracted partner ESPN, Nascar is is big trouble, in more ways than one. The ONLY thing that will cause Brian France to come out of his self-induced coma is for him to receive a direct, and enormous, hit in his wallet.
- November 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM
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- November 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM
- Sophia said...
"We were blinded by all the money and didnt read the fine print that gives our broadcast partners the right to do whatever they want to our sport. BTW did you see the new Jet I got?"
Bill H
I so agree with this statement. I think this has to be it...or it must be NASCAR's motto.
While I have been critical of ESPN much of the time, I have to finally believe NASCAR is no longer in control...NOR do TPTB care.
Let's face it, would any football league allow the camera roulette we have seen this year between NW and Cup? In all fairness, this happened to the IRL also..and I remember one time early this season or end of last season, IRL changed the station 3 times due to a golf tournament, I believe.
I am glad fans have gone 'viral'. It's much deserved. Be curious to know the percentage that taped/or DVR'd the race, too.
- November 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM
- glenc1 said...
JD, I seem to remember about 10 years ago, trying to e-mail NASCAR and realizing it didn't go directly to them. Hard to imagine nothing has changed in all that time. 'This is crazy; this is crazy', to quote your favorite ad...
Skip and Sophia--just a guess on my part, but I doubt that the percentage of TIVO'ers is 'large'...I can't remember what numbers I last saw, but as I recall the vast majority of people don't have TIVO or DVR....
- November 12, 2008 at 10:37 PM
- glenc1 said...
sorry, I know that you both said 'record' as well, but I still don't think that would encompass that many people...and I don't know that it's something that can be documented...so in all fairness perhaps it's pointless to say the number is big or small if it can't be measured...
- November 12, 2008 at 10:39 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
JD, The disrespectful ABC switch was just the most recent ESPN slight to its customers in my view.
My anger goes to the current management's screwing up of something I have enjoyed and valued for years - ESPN.
I have watched and, in general, enjoyed ESPN since the days of Australian Rules Football. Watching today's ESPN is like seeing the home of a childhood friend rented out to a hippie commune and painted a garish color - like Dawg Pound orange. One can only hope it will come to its senses, but I doubt that will occur until there is a viable, national competitor.
In fact I find ESPN's NASCAR coverage to be some of its better work today. I find First Take, many of ESPN's commentators, and its Sunday NFL coverage (other than NFL Matchup) to be of much, much poorer quality. Much of its commentaries, especially re the NFL, seem not to be honest, but only to provide controversy.
In my view today most of the time ESPN displays an arrogance and we're better than you attitude - the culmination of which was the switch of Sunday's race to ESPN2. If the switch had been done for one of the first 8 races I would have just taken that as the way the cookie crumbles. But ESPN switched Sunday when the championship could have been decided on ESPN2.
If ABC/ESPN had no contingency plan to take into account the possibility of the championship's being decided after the switch, then in my view that demonstrates a gross lack of foresight, a gross disregard for its customers, and very poor, shortsighted business judgment.
Bottom line, ESPN is no longer a sports network, it is now just an entertainment, lifestyle vendor where amateur videos are just as worthy as a property in which it has invested months and millions.
- November 12, 2008 at 10:51 PM
- Kyle said...
Also JD, what exactly do you mean by "official-looking NASCAR Logos". Do you you mean when people use the color bar logo with their name replacing nascar? Or the low-resolution logos snatched from Google?
- November 12, 2008 at 11:17 PM
- Sophia said...
for the record, we only have VCR's in this house. 4 of them...er, 3 and a half..some are very old and my room mate will use two so one is a back up.
I taped a race a few weeks ago camehome and the tape had spat out of the player. I must have set the wrong tape speed...funny, I caught the last 25 laps and it was enough.
I think part of the viral is folks up in arms for their households and the impact of the country...and we thought we could count on NASCAR races to distract us...and when they made the switch, thus the reaction.
Frankly, this last part of the season I have enjoyed the SPEED boys more than the race broadcast. Kinda sad ain't it? I get more fan appreciation and details from watching prac and qual on SPEED and info on TWIN.
I did like RACEDAY and like the folks on the show but it's just TOO LONG at two hours.
And for folks with just basic cable it's tough to count on ESPN to deliver the goods on the sport.
And where else can you find Gazoo, who's character's voice was the late Harvey Korman of Carol Burnett show fame. :-) but on TWIN. The Great Gazoo made it on the bonus footage this week on nascar.com
- November 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
If you would like to discuss the issue of Internet copyright, please drop me an email. Thank you.
I would respectfully suggest that no one, at any time from the NASCAR PR office ever has made a comment to a phone caller about "being upset" about ESPN.
This is a billion dollar eight year TV contract that has all types of content including international broadcasts and multi-series live coverage.
I assure you ESPN and ABC will be back for 2009. Reporting otherwise as fact is simply off-base.
- November 13, 2008 at 5:05 AM
- 3KillerBs said...
You're absolutely right about the problem of Nascar not providing an opportunity to directly receive fan feedback and to respond directly to fan concerns. Its a serious oversight to ignore something that could readily be used to foster goodwill. I hope that they, at least, have someone assigned to read the Nascar-related internet -- both the "official" journalists and the amateur/independent ones.
Let me clear up a misconception. I do not tape races because of the late start times. I tape races because I have a family and that means multiple commitments in my life ranging from bullseye pistol competitions with my daughter to watching Steelers games with my DH to playing board games with my 8yo.
In fact, later start times often permit me to arrange my family activities so that I can accomplish them early in the afternoon and then settle in for the race at 4 (anyone who has nothing to do with a Sunday afternoon but mope around waiting for the race to start needs a life).
Obviously its better for everyone -- fans, Nascar, networks, sponsors, etc -- if everyone watches live. However, it is better that I tape races to watch than that I miss races completely -- better for me as a fan and better for all the Nascar sponsors whom I see on screen.
If Nascar went to the 12 noon starts that some "old school" fans call for I would have to tape every race. Church theoretically ends at noon. Most pastors run a bit long. Then you have to drive home. Then we ladies (its almost always the ladies), have to make lunch for the entire family.
Back in those "old school" days women may never have been allowed to dream of watching a race from flag to flag -- contenting themselves with brief glimpses as they waited on their men and kept the kids out of the way. If that day ever existed its long over. I'm not Edith Bunker and I don't know any woman who is.
Supposedly 40% of Nascar's fan base is female. Alienating them -- at least the ones who have families -- by ensuring that they'd never see a green flag all year would not be a wise move.
Ideally, green flag should fall no sooner than 1pm eastern and no later than 2pm eastern FOR EAST COAST RACES.
It would be utter nonsense to expect west coast races to run on east coast time (though its common sense that even west coast night races should not be scheduled to run past midnight eastern).
Still, its easy to live with less than ideal scheduling (thanks in part to that recording device), as long as I know in advance where the race, ALL OF IT, will be broadcast.
- November 13, 2008 at 7:37 AM
- GinaV24 said...
Great summary, JD, as always. I almost spit my tea on the keyboard though at the thought that NASCAR might actually WANT to interact with their fans. No, not really. As long as the fans keep showing up, tuning in and spending money on NASCAR stuff, that's all the interaction that NASCAR really needs with, in Kyle Petty's words, "the lunatic fans". Nope, we'll keep using the internet to talk to one another and comment on blogs like this one about NASCAR racing, but we will never ever get to actually let the Emperor know that he's not wearing any clothes. Third party website, indeed. I used to send them e-mails at the fanfeedback address until I read your information and realized that I was just wasting my time trying to be heard. Now, I come here -- at least there's a knowledgeable person behind this site.
- November 13, 2008 at 8:38 AM
- glenc1 said...
Sophia, I've messed up that tape speed thing more times than I care to remember...
I still use my VCR even though I have a DVD recorder (both of which I can use to time shift a race, but I rarely do unless it's a favorite track.) with so many races on the schedule, skipping a few is not a big deal to me--sometimes I record and then never watch it...
But I was thinking this morning--we are all so used to e-mailing, but seriously--if we took the time to actually type out a letter and send it snail mail, they have a corporate address and *someone* would get it. Probably wouldn't pay any more attention to it that way, but it is just a thought...
- November 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM
- 3bud said...
You would think in this computer age that NASCAR would find at least some sort of forum or blog of it's own a necessity.DirecTv has a forum of it's own as part of it's website, where you can talk about various issues or even gripe about DirecTv issues.There are other ones out there but I have found you get the most reliable information from the DirecTv forum,so you would think it would be in NASCAR's best interest to do the same so the most reliable information could be circulated. A little off topic how many times have we seen switched to ESPN Classic prerace Nationwide cover as to not interrupt college football ,prerecorded Happy Hour etc. Point is those games were not switched to another station to make room for NASCAR but NASCAR possible Championship clinch is switched for America's Funnest Home Video. Just shows a total lack of respect for the sport IMO.
- November 13, 2008 at 9:24 AM
- Anonymous said...
The latest Regime in NASCAR has no more interest in what the fans think than they do in what the competitors think . Remember the good old days when Bill France Jr. would talk to Petty , Earnhardt , and the others to get their input . Can anyone name an instance of Brian walking through the garage area , cornering a driver to get his ideas on the rules or the racing ? I suspect Brian would need a map to find the garage area .
And you can be sure that any fan interaction with NASCAR will be handled by interns in the marketing department that have never even seen a stockcar race and have a script that they are to follow to the letter .
- November 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM
- midasmicah said...
I thank God the cup season is almost over. I'm tired of beating the same horse time and again. Brian France and the other heads of na$car have become woefully distant from their fans. Not that they've ever pretended to be overly concerned, but it's gotten worse. The switch left some of us on the west coast confused also. But like you said JD. When you sell your soul to the devil, this is the end result. You reap what you sow. I don't know if I can take another year of this. As long as "the mayor" is still racing, I'll still have some interest. But the "fanatic" as in fan has left me. I'm just sad. Thanks for listening
- November 13, 2008 at 9:58 AM
- Anonymous said...
In my opinion, the "Great Switch" is a reality check for NASCAR. It confirmed that in the wider world, NASCAR is regarded as a second tier entertainment property.
The actuality was that the switch was just an inconvenience for the majority of fans. It is the perceived arrogance and disrespect that most fans find offensive.
In my opinion, if each TV partner posted their respective policies in advance regarding major race delays, fans would know what to expect. There are too many third parties involved in a network broadcast to be as flexible as we might desire.
This issue could have easily been addressed on the non existent NASCAR Internet portal that JD suggests.
- November 13, 2008 at 9:59 AM
- RRoberts -Durham NC said...
Just FYI.. I've sent three or four e-mails to Ramsey Poston, and always received a reply. I believe his title is NASCAR's Managing Director of Communications. The first e-mail was, well, let's just say it wasn't the most polite letter I've ever sent. =) The other e-mails weren't so.. abrasive.. and I've always heard back within a day or so.
- November 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
The NASCAR PR staff is fantastic. They have been a big help to me for the past two seasons.
I think you can clearly see that the point I am making is that direct email access to NASCAR is not available to the fans through NASCAR.com or any other public site.
The media site is a great resource for all types of journalists, but cannot serve the general public.
No one is trying to suggest that the NASCAR PR staff is not responsive to media contacts.
The point of the column is to make clear that fans surfing the Internet or trying to find a contact at NASCAR.com are not going to be able to do so.
Thank you for your comment.
- November 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM
- RROberts - Durham, NC said...
Thanks for the reply JD. You're correct in that there is no easy access that I'm aware of.
I actually had to guess at Mr. Poston's e-mail address, and I'm assuming that the real person is the one replying to me. The replies certainly sound like NA$CAR-speak.
The only other avenue that I'm aware of where fans can communicate directly with NASCAR is through their NASCAR Fan Council questionnaires. I'm a member of that group, and occasionally get the questionnaire to fill out. Most of it is guided responses, where you check a check box, but they always have a free text section where you can comment on whatever you like. I've always filled mine out, but I can't say I've ever seen that my feedback was reviewed or replied to.
Other than that, I'll have to agree that the virtual NASCAR castle is pretty well impenetrable.
- November 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM
- GinaV24 said...
RRoberts, interesting, I'm on that "fan council" deal too and like you I sure do use the opportunity to "comment". They did some sort of a summary of the survey back about 4 months ago, but there hasn't been anything since, so there goes another avenue for fans. I figured NASCAR didn't like the answers they were getting, so they quit asking. There's another good way to run a business! Not! Anyway, I was just reading on Jayski (Pete Pistone's column) -- JD, I hope I can reference it here? He stated that the provision in the TV contract is that they can switch within the "family of networks", so ABC/ESPN had the right to do it, even though my opinion that it is a shame they did hasn't changed.
- November 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM
- Ken said...
I am not surprised that the race was switched. I realized long ago that NA$CAR has a very limited audience regardless of what others want to think. It is much like tennis, soccer and other sports that have a very dedicated but limited following. The instant gratification public does not have the patience to watch 4 hours of TV to see 4 minutes of action. I think NA$CAR is losing many newer fans because the sport has not lived up to their expectations and they are losing old time fans because of the changes that attempts to recruit new fans.
My DVR is set to automatically record every NA$CAR race in case I have something more interesting to do or I fall asleep. I wouldn't mind the change if they would announce up front that the race would be switched to another station at a certain time if it is not over. That way, I could set my DVR to handle the change.
- November 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
JD- Since I am frequently told that I am border-line computer literate, wouldn't there be a way that a "Contact Us" or "Contact NASCAR" feature could be added to the NASCAR.com site with the messages sent thereto periodically forwarded to NASCAR? The first time I went to NASCAR.com one of the first things I noticed was that there was no way to communicate with the site unless it was about a problem or a question about an order.
- November 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
NASCAR.com is a third party for profit business run by Turner.
They have only offered NASCAR.com support and email since the start.
Tons of email that is sent to them by fans thinking they are contacting NASCAR is routinely deleted.
A little off-season change could go a long way.
- November 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM
- Tracy said...
Keeping up with an internet form of communications with fans would be a BIG job. Plus, how do they monitor the responses? Have only form letters those handling the inbox are allowed to use? I'm looking at this from both sides - the frustrated fan who'd like to be heard - and the business that can't wrap its head around how to keep up with what will probably be a gigantic job to handle with tact, grace, and a modicum of truth. Sounds like an impossible job for Nascar, to be honest. Please note the "Nascar" disclaimer.
I've emailed the president of Lowe's, (found his e-addy on the web with relative ease) and you bet I got a response answering my question. But they're in business to keep the customers coming through the door. I doubt Nascar fans are convinced that TPTB in the France family have the same goal. Which may be the answer as to why there's no direct and easily available way to contact Nascar on the Web. Nascar doesn't want one.
- November 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM
- Anonymous said...
What NASCAR doesn't yet realize is the money to be made on the internet. Once they do, they'll wise up real quick.
I saw a special on baseball the other day, and commissioner Bud Selig talked about how behind MLB was with the internet until about 2.5 years ago. Now, less than 900 days later, the internet is bringing in something like 25-35% of team revenue!
- November 13, 2008 at 4:44 PM
- Anonymous said...
Tons of email that is sent to them by fans thinking they are contacting NASCAR is routinely deleted.
A little off-season change could go a long way.
Sure, but NASCAR likes it that way. Then they don't have to be bothered to answer.
- November 13, 2008 at 5:53 PM
- Anonymous said...
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- November 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM
- AFMSgt said...
I have been an avid reader of this blog since last year and it has become one of the defacto voices of large amounts of the NASCAR fan base. Between your blog and David Poole's blog it is pretty clear what the state of the NASCAR fan is and it is not happy.
The problem is that NASCAR has shown that it has only minimal concern for the fans. The problem is that without the fans, there is no business reason for NASCAR to exist. The thing that scares me most is that during a period of fan discontent, the global business community is also having large problems.
NASCAR racing is very dependent on the business community. That community makes financial decisions based on metrics - and the metrics related to NASCAR are not good:
- Viewership has been consistently decreasing since its peak in 2005,
- Advertising costs are higher due to the new TV deal;
- Sponsorship costs are at their highest ever; and
- Fan attendance is markedly lower at all tracks. Even Daytona is affected... they are not selling tickets for the superstretch for the July race due to lack of demand;
I fear that this could become a perfect storm of events that could lead to severe contraction in the sport:
- Facts are that ESPN only provides TV coverage of the top-10 (and barely that);
- The sponsors, already strapped for advertising funds, see diminished value in sponsoring a mid-level team due to lack of TV coverage;
- Teams outside the big four - Roush, Hendrick, JGR, and RCR - continue to disappear... unable to retain sponsors nor TV coverage to develop a fan base
- We are left with what was killing MLB: the Yankees syndrome. Only the powerhouse teams survive and fan base starts to disappear... along with race attendance.
Combine those factors with a very large recession looming and I consider stock car racing, the sport I truly love, to be at significant risk.
How long did it take MLB to recapture the fans it lost due to the '94 strike? I have heard that it never really did. Everyone has a stake in success - or will suffer with its failure. There have been estimates that there could be between 500-1000 NASCAR team members out of work on Monday after Homestead. Not a good sign - now is NOT the time for a diminished product.
NASCAR in Daytona needs to start looking at itself as a portfolio of capabilities - not a single business entity. If one fails, then all are at risk. The extended NASCAR group of businesses really needs to develop a collaborative solution that will help all: this would include all of the stakeholders... NASCAR (both the biz side in Daytona and operations side in Concord), the TV networks, ISC and SMC, and the independent track owners. That needs to be combined with some way to measure the desires of the fans... the cornerstone of the strength of the NASCAR product. No fans, no bucks. No bucks, no Buck Rodgers.
For the sake of the sport so many of us love and for those teams, officials, and track workers that make it happen, I hope NASCAR gets its collective s#%t together and starts to work out sustainable solutions.
I shall continue to hope...
- November 14, 2008 at 9:02 AM
- Anonymous said...
I still say its ABC who is to blame, not ESPN.
- November 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
Bob Margolis has an interesting article saying that he found from talking to fans at the track that fans are not nearly as dissatisfied as the predominant stories in the media say.
It does seem to me that the networks' failing to give exposure to mid- and lower-level teams during the races is contributing to the problems those teams are having in keeping or getting sponsorship.
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