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Sunday, October 21, 2007
Early "RaceDay" Running On Empty For SPEED
It certainly has been one of the hottest topics for fans of the outstanding NASCAR coverage delivered every race weekend on SPEED. On one of the key weekends of the NASCAR season, SPEED chose to move their Sunday morning program called RaceDay.
This two hour live program is a mix of news, conversation, and features. It has struck a chord with fans, and this season has been scheduled in a position to overlap the ESPN/ABC pre-race show called NASCAR Countdown.
While SPEED has undergone many changes over the last several years, they find themselves in the position of continuing to host live Formula-1 coverage. Voiced-over in SPEED's network headquarters in Charlotte, NC, this series has a cult following in the US that is dedicated to the point of fanatical.
SPEED has clung to this base of fans, and often appears to cater to them more than any other fanbase on the SPEEDtv.com website. Prior to SPEED investing in the multiple at-track programs on the NASCAR circuit, it was the open-wheel and Rally coverage that kept the network on the TV map.
Sunday morning, SPEED faced a choice that ESPN had also faced many times during their first decade of growth. Two high-profile and successful programs were locked in a Mexican stand-off. Both wanted to be on the air at 11:30AM on Sunday morning.
Formula-1 had the promise of a season-ending championship fight. The drivers had been battling all season long on a wide variety of circuits and in very diverse weather conditions. It was going to be a great live event from Brazil.
RaceDay has come into its own this season, and has been a tightly-knit crew of TV personalities who have momentum on their side. The failure of the ESPN on ABC crew to present a viable pre-race show has played into the hands of SPEED who took a big chance when scheduling RaceDay to directly compete with NASCAR Countdown.
So, SPEED faced a tough decision anyway you cut it. This was a classic case of a TV program vs. a TV event. The program was RaceDay, which has no actual "start time" associated with it, where the F-1 race certainly has a scheduled race start.
Moving RaceDay later was not an option, as the NASCAR race would be underway. Tape delaying the F-1 coverage until 1:30PM Eastern Time would have disrupted a full season of live coverage on SPEED. There were two possible solutions.
One, move RaceDay up to 9:30AM and let it run until the F-1 program at 11:30AM. Secondly, make RaceDay available on a different distribution pathway. This could have been another Fox Cable Network like FX, Fuel, or FoxSportsNet. SPEED's decision was to move RaceDay to 9:30AM, and keep the Formula-1 race live at 11:30AM.
As The Daly Planet is NASCAR-themed, we are going to discuss how these changes affected the RaceDay program. Essentially, SPEED removed about four of the six bullets in the RaceDay gun with this change. Removed were the live elements that fans had come to expect, and remaining were the RaceDay on-set announcers and the pre-produced features.
John Roberts and his crew kept brave faces, and the NASCAR fans turned-out at the track, but the program was missing its soul. The production crew worked with the content and conditions they had, switching the focus of the show from live reporting to pre-produced features and conversation.
The single person who paid the highest price for this change was Wendy Venturini. Normally the centerpiece of this show, Venturini found herself working in a time frame where the cars were still in their garage stalls, and the drivers in their RV's. Her "target rich" environment was gone.
The show moved into a cycle where a feature was presented, then discussed. Solid taped pieces were used on a variety of subjects. Clint Bowyer, Junior Johnson and Doug Yates were all used for content. Hermie Sadler, Ricki Rachtman, and the RaceDay panel filled-in the blanks with extended conversations.
This edition of RaceDay had none of the spontaneous interviews and exciting background activity that fans have come to expect. Inside the track, Venturini did her best to arrange some interviews and update some news, but it was not the same.
NASCAR is high-profile and vital to the continued success of SPEED. RaceDay is the anchor of this franchise, and sets-up the other programs and personalities on the network. This program has been on-the-air every race weekend since February. Moving it with only four races to go was a tough decision.
Maybe Wendy Venturini said it best while she stood frustrated outside the driver's meeting all alone. "As soon as they get done with the driver's meeting, we are going to...um...maybe...we are running out of time...I do know that." There would be no drivers interviewed, no pit walks, and no real version of RaceDay this Sunday morning.
NASCAR fans got the short end of the stick from SPEED. This situation shows the network slowly growing into a TV outlet that is going to need a second pathway of program distribution in the future. Maybe, this conflict on Sunday helped SPEED to understand that their future as a big-time sports network may have finally arrived.
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40 comments:
- Anonymous said...
I think this is a good problem to have. If they had to change every week, bad deal, but this is ok. I enjoy the show and once in a while things just don't work out. They'll be back with guns a blazin' next week.
- October 21, 2007 at 7:44 PM
- Illpolo said...
I can say that when I woke up this morning I flipped on SPEED right away just to have the show on, regardless of its' early start compared to the time of the race start. It gives the feel of being at the race outside the track, which I have had the experience of twice this year at Chicagoland and Indianapolis for Cup races.
While the show did lack some of the randomness of regular shows, it made me think to what it's like to show up at the racetrack very early to get a good parking spot and tailgate; plus I love having Nascar-related content on Speed at that early hour compared to the normally random shows they usually have on at odd hours on a daily basis. I was excited for the race even earlier today because of it.
- October 21, 2007 at 7:55 PM
- Andy Pandy said...
I think the fact the RaceDay is usually a quality program gives them a good amount of leeway in this case. Regular viewers know what the show is about and what they do, so it was interesting to see what they could do under less than ideal circumstances. Lesser shows may have just canceled for the week and had everyone watch the World Wide Leader for pre-race coverage, but I give SPEED and the RaceDay crew credit for giving it a try, knowing that most of their viewers have a sense of humor and could laugh along with them if it blew up.
Of course, I'm a fan of JR, Spencer and Herman, and would tune in to watch Wendy read the phone book for an hour, so my opinion may not be worth a whole heck of a lot.
- October 21, 2007 at 8:04 PM
- Vince said...
I'm embarrassed to say I forgot to check my program listings and missed RaceDay altogether. My DVR got it, but it sounds like I don't need to replay it if there are no driver interviews or Wendy strolling down pit road catching people off guard for a quick interview. She's great.
That said, I don't have a problem with Speed showing the F1 race live and moving RaceDay up to 9:30am. It would have been nice if they'd moved RaceDay to FX or one of Fox's other stations though.
- October 21, 2007 at 8:10 PM
- Anonymous said...
Kyle Petty, JD Gibbs and Junior Johnson just called... they want a refund.
- October 21, 2007 at 8:33 PM
- Alex said...
Raceday is a Speed Channel show, so moving it to FX or FSN would make little sense since those networks have nothing to do with Speed Channel other than being owned by the same company. FX would seem the logical solution, but it would be out of step with their programming since that division stated their objective to leave sports programming. FSN has many affiliates and not much national network programming at one time, plus the entire nation isn't covered with FSN channels. Many have Comcast SportsNet instead, which would leave race fans without Raceday.
Like any sports event, not every one can be the epitome of excitement and the best show ever, so I'll take the bad or not-so-good if we get a good dose of good programming on a regular basis. I'm quite surprised that John suggested redistribution to another cable channel especially considering how Raceday is an established franchise on Speed Channel and would force viewers like me to decide between that show and watching the Formula 1 race. I watched both and would not have liked a decision between the two.
As soon as the F1 race was done, I flipped to NASCAR. It was a perfect lead-in to have live original programming back-to-back for Speed to keep viewers tuned to one channel instead of flipping between two and essentially splitting their viewership.
A bit off-topic, but if NASCAR had their races start at reasonable times, like 12:30, the layoff between when morning shows like Raceday end and the green flag wouldn't be so large, hence more excitement that Speed Channel is able to harness. That's not the case, so we have to deal with the hand we're dealt.
- October 21, 2007 at 8:48 PM
- Anonymous said...
I can't see how the choice is at all tough. One is live coverage of the championship deciding race of the closest F1 driver's championship in years. The other is a PRERACE show. Delaying the race significantly degrades the value of the coverage to F1 fans. Moving Raceday earlier in the day shakes up the format a bit. If this happened frequently it would be a problem, but given the time zones involved it's only going to come up once a year. The Raceday crew and its audience can deal with that.
And this is coming from someone who stopped watching the F1 races after the FIA's ridiculous Stepneygate decision made them look like Formula Ferrari.
- October 21, 2007 at 9:04 PM
- ruddrpm said...
I agree with most everybody thus far in that I don't think it was that big of deal as a one-time thing. Not to mention the F1 race packed more potential punch than yet another NASCAR Chase race with an ever-growing points gap between the (2) haves & the (10) have nots. Even still, if this happened Sunday afternoon in Homestead that would definately be another story. But it was just Martinsville with 4 races still remaining......
Moving RaceDay to another network would only open up another can of worms (notifying the viewers en mass, what network pays for the production since they all operate on separate budgets, etc.) when next week everything will be back to normal & we'll forget this conversation even existed. I think most people will understand the situation for what it was.
- October 21, 2007 at 9:20 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
The SPEED-RACEDAY controversy provides a telling contrast with NASCAR on ESPN. SPEED had the "problem" of 2 quality programs and how to give each adequate exposure - while ESPN is still trying to re-learn how to carry NASCAR. We can only hope that ESPN will step up to the plate and elevate its NASCAR coverage ( races and ancillary programming) so that it becomes good enough to worry about where to carry it - and whether to bother watching it. In fairness to SPEED, there would be no controversy if it had not continued to enhance and improve RACEDAY.An embarassment of riches. Now if they would just replace Ken and Barbie on the SPEED REPORT - and have adequate racing coverage during the so-called "off season."
- October 21, 2007 at 9:29 PM
- Rick said...
Like I said in the other thread on this topic, it was a sound business descision for SPEED.
So Raceday wasn't able to be up to its normal standards, but they kept race fans on their channel for 5 straight hours.
I wouldn't want it to happen every week, but once a year is fine with me.
- October 21, 2007 at 9:50 PM
- ruddrpm said...
Forgot to mention though that yes, I do agree with your original point in that Raceday lacked its same punch by airing a couple hours early. But it was what it was. They made the best of the situation & now we go to Atlanta. Did anyone happen to catch the F1 race?! How about that comeback by Kimi over the past few races!!! Gives me faint hope that we could see the same thing by one of the other Chase "contenders" in this last 4. I really don't care who wins, but 100+ points to 3rd & 200+ to 4th?! I thought the Chase was created so everybody would be tied when we got to Homestead (sarcasm)..........
- October 21, 2007 at 10:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
SPEED made the right decision today. The RaceDay folks gave it their all this morning - maybe not the best show they've ever done, but nothing that would make me change the channel.
This was a rare conflict and really not a conflict. If the Nextel All-Star Challenge race -the actual race - carried exclusively on SPEED conflicted with an F1 race, I might see the conflict.
Because of that, I don't believe SPEED needs a second outlet such as FUEL or a new SPEED2 channel. If you look at the bulk of their programming, it's not live current programming, which would call for expansion. And the programming choices can be curious.
For instance, today was a very busy racing day (from which these columns stem). What's on SPEED tonight from 10 PM to 3 AM, though? Redline, Super Bikes! NOPI,Pinks, Dream Car Garage, and My Classic Car.
No replay of the Brazilian Grand Prix until mid-week. No replay of SPEED Report and Victory Lane until 3 AM Eastern. They're not even replaying Wind Tunnel (which should have been two hours) until tomorrow morning at 10. Even though both a Dale Jr interview and an extremely up to date live phone report on the F1 situation from Brazil (a situation which had changed from an update just 20 minutes before) were on the show.
Once they get those types of puzzling programming decisions handled better, then they can think about a second distribution pathway.
- October 21, 2007 at 11:01 PM
- Anonymous said...
Speaking of Rally, looks like SPEED has forsaken that series completely. Not even a 1/2-hour show? Hurts!
- October 21, 2007 at 11:19 PM
- Cire said...
John, I don't think SPEED needs another outlet at all. This happened ONCE this whole year and now your saying they need to possibly start looking at another outlet? Wrong. As it turned out the F1 race was superb and with how Hamilton did, it kept us all with the F1 race to the very end. SPEED made the right call on this and again, this only happened ONCE this whole year! For Lord's sake, the last two F1 races had me up and 1 and 2 in the morning to watch (Japan and China). Your doing good though John. This is the only thing all year that I can remember where nobody really agreed with you.
- October 21, 2007 at 11:32 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
I am watching a taped RACE DAY. it's different than normal but that's ok. It's about real stuff that fans like.
Most all were thrilled with access to F1 at a decent hour. and it was the last race of the season.
Also, I think SPEED has made horrible decisions on other areas in general..the putrid late night shows, lack of repeat of quality shows..VL, WT, INC for PINKS, Unique Whips and other JUNK.
I am happy with today's decision. And see no need for SPEED 2 since as another poster said, not much LIVE racing on this station or even interesting shows.
I am more upset with what ESPN in general is doing to this sport. I realize, JD, you worked in TV and see this problem in a wider scope than most of us here. So you have a different perspective.
But compared to the horrid stuff NASCAR is ALLOWING ESPN to do to the fans? This little hiccup with Raceday on an important F1 day is just minutia to me and some others.
I haven't finished watching yet but they should've filmed a bit about Wendy giving a wake up call to one of the drivers to be on the early edition...maybe somebody like Tony who is notorious for NOT being a morning person..and having him be cranky and playing beeps for cusswords because Tony wanted to get another hour of sleep or something?
Then Wendy walks in with a pizza or donuts and Tony Smiles. . .
- October 22, 2007 at 12:12 AM
- Anonymous said...
Sounds like you did not give RaceDay a chance. You already made up your mind about it being horrible to move up RaceDay by a few hours instead of airing it on a another Fox owned network and, as you expected, the show didn't live up to your expectations. For me and 99% of the other NASCAR fans who watch RaceDay each week, this show was as good as any all season. Quit whining!
- October 22, 2007 at 1:04 AM
- Anonymous said...
Anyone notice Spencer is either not preparing for the shows, or is having memory problems.
How about Carl Edwards and Matt Kenseth almost going to "blows" on pit lane after the race. Victory Lane showed it uncut. Nascar Now clipped the end off when Carl sort of charged Matt. Those two always got along. I hope they work things out.
- October 22, 2007 at 2:06 AM
- Anonymous said...
JD, I really liked this article... as I do all of your articles. And I agreed with most of it...
But like many of the other posters, I didn't have a problem with this one-time move for Race Day, given all the factors involved. I enjoyed watching the F1 race... and I'm not normally an F1 fan.
I am a little disappointed that Race Day didn't make more of the time change -- for example, how different the track is in the early morning. Something like Sophia's early morning bit could have been fun. They could have embraced the differences from "normal" -- had more fun with it... using more than just coffee cups. Instead, they almost looked embarrassed that they couldn't give us more.
What this whole thing really does is highlight the unique appeal of this show. When something is missing, it's noticeable... because we don't get those things anywhere else, especially on race day.
- October 22, 2007 at 7:41 AM
- Anonymous said...
What I meant about the F1 race is that I think that in this case, it was wise for SPEED to air both back-to-back -- Race Day viewers might then watch the F1 race.
But I also think Race Day's earlier time could have been handled more effectively... so the whole thing could have worked much better.
- October 22, 2007 at 8:02 AM
- Anonymous said...
...except that F1 overlapped with the actual race, didn't it?!? I wouldn't have known, because I watch everything on DVR. Sorry, you should probably ignore (or delete) my previous comment [8:02am].
- October 22, 2007 at 9:04 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Thanks for all the comments. The people who did not post here are the ones that do not know or like Formula-1.
They are simply NASCAR fans, and when they saw the F-1 race they just turned to ABC and waited for NASCAR Countdown.
In today's computer-driven world, TV networks are a dying breed. They have to go above and beyond to provide viewers with what they need, or the viewer will simply turn-on the PC and never come back.
What RaceDay needed was creative thinking outside of the box. If they are going to do a show on SPEED at 9:30AM, then do another one on the SPEEDtv.com website at 11:30AM. Do something.
Do one show on SPEED at 9:30AM, and then simulcast another show at 11:30AM on FX, Fuel, FoxSportsNet and any other Fox Cable Network.
Spread the word that SPEED has NASCAR covered no matter what the obstacle. Well meaning fans in this forum are expressing their appreciation for this TV series. I completely agree.
What they are not solving is the problem. No drivers, no drivers meeting info, no cars on pit road, no team owners, no Wendy among the drivers gathering for intro's, and a general time when nothing is going on but car prep in the garage. A significant percentage of the normal RaceDay content was missing.
SPEED does not have any Busch or Cup regular season races. This is the closest they get to the big time in this sport. The "weight" of this show should have driven SPEED to be creative, not simply roll-over and play dead.
Many NASCAR fans watch RaceDay on SPEED and then turn to ABC for the race. How hard would it have been to watch RaceDay on FX and then turn to ABC for the race? I think NASCAR fans could have handled that, and then they would have gotten all the info that this RaceDay and this NASCAR Countdown missed.
By the way, this has nothing to do with F-1. As networks grow, these type of contractual obligations for live events will impact "support programming" like RaceDay. It says a a lot about the patience of NASCAR fans and SPEED viewers that they would take this in stride.
- October 22, 2007 at 9:12 AM
- Anonymous said...
I agree with many of the other viewers. I think this is a good problem for Speed to have. I am a loyal motorsports fan, and if given the choice, I would probably have done what Speed did.
Speed continues to grow in popularity, but more importantly, in QUALITY. I would take their 9:30 show with virtually none of the live excitement than any of the other networks pre-race shows. Kudos to Speed for continuing to try to serve all forms of motorsports, not just Nascar or F1.
- October 22, 2007 at 9:57 AM
- Anonymous said...
Amy said...
I think that the time has come for FOX to come up with a national sports channel to compete with ESPN. Then they could broadcast football and Nascar and baseball and all the sports that they broadcast so well. They just started the FOX Business Channel now they need to start the FOX Sports Channel. Just a suggestion.
I usually have to miss RaceDay due to being in church at the time and I do not have a DVR or TIVO. I am kind of in the dark ages. When I have been able to watch RaceDay I have enjoyed it. I loved Sophia's idea about waking Tony Stewart up and getting him angry and then bringing in pizzas and cokes.
This is all just my humble opinion.
- October 22, 2007 at 11:56 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
I have been after them for years to do just that. For some reason, the people who are in charge at SPEED and on the national level for Fox Cable Networks have only regional sports network backgrounds.
If there was ever a time to consider getting into the digital cable business with a sports channel, it would be right now. If there was every a big brother who could create and produce programming at an afforable level, it would be Fox Sports and NewsCorp.
If Fox does not beat NASCAR to the punch, we will all be watching NASCAR races on the NASCAR Network in seven years. Mark that down.
- October 22, 2007 at 12:02 PM
- Anonymous said...
The problem was for those of us on the west coast who flipped the tv on at 9:00 expecting the show only to find out it had already aired.
- October 22, 2007 at 12:13 PM
- Anonymous said...
Raceday gets what around 800,000 avg viewers out of 0ver 75 million people who get SpeedTV. This is enough to move to another channel, I don't see that making any sense.
- October 22, 2007 at 12:59 PM
- JHD said...
I also don't have a problem with when it was broadcast. In fact I knew I wasn't going to be awake at 9:30 am (or that I was going to be out doing my pre-race errands), so I DVR'd the show.
When I came home at 11:30, I simply watched the DVR rather than the F1 race or ESPN's prerace. It was a lot easier, and actually much more convenient to do so, since I could FF through the commercials or the parts I didn't want to watch.
- October 22, 2007 at 1:00 PM
- Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The problem was for those of us on the west coast who flipped the tv on at 9:00 expecting the show only to find out it had already aired.
It takes very little to find show listings and times..put in at least a little effort before ranting and complaining.
- October 22, 2007 at 1:02 PM
- Anonymous said...
Why does FOX need one national sports unit...I think their FSN outlets almost cover the whole USA. I thought they tried a national show like SportsCenter a while back a really failed.
- October 22, 2007 at 1:11 PM
- Anonymous said...
You're right. FSN does cover nearly the entire country, and FOX did have a national SportsCenter-like broadcast - and it did fail, miserably. It was called the National Sports Report.(You may remember anchors like Jeanie Zelasko and Kevin Frazier, who is now the weekend host of Entertainment Tonight).
John, I don't understand why you don't understand that FX is not interested in anything that Speed has to offer. Not even for a one-time deal. As other commentors have pointed out, they've moved on. FUEL TV is for wakeboarding/snowboarding/skateboarding/auto drifting kids who couldn't care less about NASCAR.
I also don't think we'll be watching a NASCAR Network in the years to come, at least not one that is carried on a cable network. The NFL Network, with all of its leverage, is not making any leeway in its goal to get onto cable systems. It's not carried on most systems like Time Warner, Cablevision and Charter, and Comcast moved it up the tier and charged extra for it despite the NFL network's protests.
- October 22, 2007 at 2:34 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
Also, please I hope NASCAR remembers the common man/woman who can't AFFORD TOP TIER satellite...or dont want to GET SATELLITE just for NASCAR.
I don't want to just watch 5 drivers and they are starting to edit the 'personal comments' of drivers which added to the fun of HOTPASS.
We get SPEED on a middle digital tier but would have to pay MORE for an NFL STATION (dont care about that) and CERTAINLY could not afford a "SPECIAL PRICEY" NASCAR Channel NOR PAY PER VIEW.
So, unless they figure it out for joe and jane citizens and not something just for rich folks to watch on their barn sized TV's (NO OFFENSE to any here that have such fun things) the ratings will continue to drop.
It's layers deep the problem, it's layers deep the resentment.
And even sadder, it's layers deep the REFUSAL to make things RIGHT.
Also, as much as I whine about ESPN I STILL say this issue lies FAIRLY at the feet of BRIAN FRANCE.
- October 22, 2007 at 5:45 PM
- Newracefan said...
I had to set my alarm to make sure I didn't miss Race Day which didn't make me happy but thing could have been worse. They could have put it on a upper tier channel which I don't get at all. That said I agree with Sophia making a big thing about the time difference was the way to go. I've been to a race and in order not to sit in traffic you get there very early, it would have been cool to see what goes on inside when I am wandering around the souvineer trailers. I did miss all the driver interviews and wish Wendy had made more arrangements ahead maybe she thought she could catch drivers going into the drivers meeting. The guests they did have were very timely to the current news Kyle Petty with his 810 start (did ESPN even mention it?) JD Gibbs and as always Wendy's Real Deal. I just missed the exciment at the end with Wendy on the grid it means it's time for me to set up the laptop (trackpass, racetrax, JD's Blog) but thats a comment for a different post.
- October 22, 2007 at 6:53 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Anon 2:34PM,
FX is not an issue. They will do what the Fox Execs tell them to do, especially with their wasted non-prime timeslots. F-1 is not an issue.
You are missing the point. This is not an isolated incident, it is the beginning of a pattern of growth that will force change. SPEED is in the middle of announcing more live programming for 2008, and that will be fun to sort out. Its not a matter of if, its simply a matter of when and then what do to when it happens.
NASCAR is putting all the equipment needed to run a TV network in their Hall of Fame TV facility being built in Charlotte.
Just like the other major sanctioning bodies, NASCAR wants to avoid exactly what happened to them this year. On the TNT and ESPN portions of their TV package, the sport took a backseat to the network.
This was especially true on TNT, which continued to promote continuously throughout the telecast even over the objections of NASCAR.
With the programming content sitting on the shelves at NASCAR Images, the bad programming on TV right now, and the ability of the sport to control the money, NASCAR TV is on the way.
The NFL has a very fundamental problem and that is a short season. NASCAR, tennis, and golf go year round and the other two sports already have networks focusing on that content. Check your watch, NASCAR TV is only a couple of years away.
- October 22, 2007 at 7:49 PM
- Anonymous said...
I'd be very intrigued by a NASCAR TV network. JD do you have any idea what kind of programming they would have? Would the Cup and Busch races be on there?
I ask because you mention the other sports having channels. With our cable, the golf channel is included in the standard basic and digital packages. But you have to pay extra for the NBA channel, tennis channel, regional sports channels and Fuel (I didn't even know what that was until yesterday reading this site).
I worry if the races were on a NASCAR channel, lots of fans would get left out if it's not on a basic tier or if the cable company doesn't carry it.
- October 22, 2007 at 9:24 PM
- Anonymous said...
Another thought to add to my above comment about a NASCAR Network being intriguing, I would worry if NASCAR insists that it be carried on basic cable. From what I remember about the NFL cable network problems, they wanted the cable companies to absorb the cost or raise their subscriber's rate to cover having it on basic.
I'm probably being premature, but that sounds like a stance that Brian France and Co. might be arrogant enough to copy.
- October 22, 2007 at 9:35 PM
- Anonymous said...
I wasn't feeling so I slept until 11 a.m. CST yesterday. After awhile, I turned on SPEED thinking I'd be able to catch the last hour or so of Race Day. Imagine my surprise when I saw F1 racing and then checked the schedule to see that RD aired earlier. Glad to hear that I didn't miss much of anything.
- October 22, 2007 at 11:02 PM
- Anonymous said...
I think Wendy should do a Real Deal on John Daly while he's telling the Speed sales executives how their commission checks might suffer a little when their highly-rated pre-race show goes to FX or Fuel for the day.
- October 22, 2007 at 11:59 PM
- Anonymous said...
"What they are not solving is the problem. No drivers, no drivers meeting info, no cars on pit road, no team owners, no Wendy among the drivers gathering for intro's, and a general time when nothing is going on but car prep in the garage. A significant percentage of the normal RaceDay content was missing."
I saw Wendy interview Jamie MCMurray, Kyle Petty, and a pit crew guy whose name I can't remember. The guys interviewed JD Gibbs who came over to sit with them on the set. Wendy did her good news roundup as usual and the Real Deal. They didn't have Wendy on the grid, but it wasn't as if they all just talked to each other for two hours.
- October 23, 2007 at 7:55 AM
- Anonymous said...
I have Golf Channel and TTN (tennis) on cable. I've always figured they were able to survive because of the ads. I'd imagine most NASCAR fans like me don't actually race, but a large portion of the golf and tennis channel viewers do play. So the ads can sell endless brands of balls, racquets, clubs, clothing, and golf and tennis resorts on commercials forever. They also have high-end sponsors of their regular programming (Grey Goose Vodka, Rolex).
We NASCAR fans support our drivers sponsors by buying their products, but it's usually more by wearing clothing and buying merchandise like diecasts advertising those products than the actual products.
Because of that, NASCAR corporate sponsors and their advertising teams probably value exposure on a broadcast network or a highly viewed cable outlet like ESPN.
The key point is golf/tennis big TV events are always still airing on network TV or cable like ESPN or TNT on weekends. The early rounds and the pre and post press conferences might be on the golf or tennis channel, but everything else is on the networks. While the NFL or NBA Networks can and do broadcast a few games on their own channel, the other games -the big games - are split between ESPN and the major networks.
Since there are usually only three major races a week (Craftsman, Busch, Nextel), it wouldn't work the same for a NASCAR Network, they couldn't split the races like the other leagues because there are only three races instead of 16 or 20 games to split.
I believe NASCAR would return to being seen as a niche sport if the races aired on their own network and nowhere else.
- October 23, 2007 at 8:53 AM
- Desmond said...
FSN once again has a nightly sports news program, The FSN Final Score.
As for an all-NASCAR channel, I also predict that it will come. I think it would air practice, qualifying, events from the minor leagues (Busch East, West, perhaps even the weekly short tracks), but not Busch/Nationwide Series or NEXTEL/Sprint Cup races.
- October 23, 2007 at 2:36 PM


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"Five and a half more weeks, Honey."
The next day, she'd ask again, "When do I start school?"
"Still five and a half weeks, Oat."
"How many days is that?"
She'd pout and looked bummed. Then she'd brighten and ask, "Do I start tomorrow?"
"Nope. It's still thirty-eight more days."
"Oh," she'd say, seemingly understanding that the first day of school was still several days away. Then she'd eagerly ask, "Do I start yesterday?"
"Uhhh no, but let's hope your teachers show you a calendar and work on the concepts of today, tomorrow, and yesterday with you."
So, her first day finally arrived and she very excitedly galloped down the hallway to her classroom. I put on a brave face and walked my little girl into her preschool class. I looked around at all the moms dropping off their children. I think the average age of these parents was fifteen. When did everyone get so young? Oh well, that's okay, I thought to myself. I'm a very young looking forty-year-old. No one would ever guess me to be forty. Just last month, I was carded at the grocery store for buying a bottle of wine. (Nevermind the fact that I'd driven miles out of my way just to buy my wine in a neighboring town that has to card every single person by law whether they look eight or eighty.)
And then it happened.
A woman said to me, "I see so many grandparents taking care of their grandkids while the parents work these days. That's so nice of you to help out like that." She smiled sweetly.
Surely, she wasn't talking to me! I glanced over my shoulder. There was no one behind me. Grandparents? GRANDPARENTS! Oh no, she di'n't! If only I had a cane I could trip her with! But instead of showing her how my arthritic old body could still kick her butt, I looked at her point-blank and asked, "How OLD do you think I am?"
She mumbled an apology and said something to the effect that she hadn't been talking about me, just grandparents in general. Although, a minute later, I think I heard her whisper to her friend, "Stay away from that grandma over there. She's touchy about her age."
Needless to say, after I kissed Brooklyn goodbye, I hurried out to my car and sped to my local salon for an "age-defying" facial.
I know this is just misdirected payback for a comment my ex made to the mother of one of Savannah's friends years ago. When Ann's (name has been changed to protect the innocent) mother came to pick her up from our house after a play date, Bob (name has been changed to protect the stupid) introduced himself and asked her if she was Ann's grandmother. She wasn't. And she wasn't amused. I was mortified. To this day, I can't look at her without feeling pangs of guilt from the horrible faux pas that transpired at my house all those years ago.
I used to be the "young mom" at the preschool. I did. When Austin attended there twelve years ago, I was young! Now, people think I entered the preschool by mistake and they try to give me directions to the senior center. Oh well. I guess I'll just have to hang out at the high school more often where I'm once again the young parent. I can enjoy being the young one there for a few more years until Brooklyn starts high school. And then I'll have a t-shirt made that reads, "No, I'm not her grandmother!"
Posted by Dawn at 12:45 AM
40 comments:
- Tonia said...
She must have been like 19 where anyone over 21 looks old to her. You do not look 40 but even if you did these days it's the norm for people to "start" having a family in their late 30's and early 40's; which makes you a young mom even with Brooklyn. Look at all the celebreties that are starting families in their 40's; they will be much older when their kids go to school. Jeesh. Maybe if you wore your hair gray I could see the dumb mistake but even then you have a very young face. What an ignorant assumption to make.
- September 21, 2010 at 1:41 AM
I had a similar problem!
I spent some weeks collecting my nephew from school this year and some people thought I was his grandmother!
Now bearing in mind my sister is approaching 50 this year (she had him later in life), how old do they think I am?
- September 21, 2010 at 6:30 AM
- Sharon said...
From one older mom to another ...Cheers! We have wisdom and they have youth but some day they'll realize that wisdom is the better virtue to have! Love the new Facebook photo, damn you look good girl!
- September 21, 2010 at 6:41 AM
- Kari in CO said...
OUCH! I can only imagine how much that stung. I am one of the "old" moms too. I didn't have my first child until I was 29. When my oldest went to preschool at 3, I swear I was old enough to be some of her classmates moms mom. I am not looking forward to when my youngest graduates high school. I'm sure I will get many "grandparent" comments.
No point of this comment, other than to let you know your aren't alone! LOL
- September 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM
- heyteach said...
There are 15 years between me and my youngest sister. When she started high school my mom called me horrified saying "Cindy (the little sister of a girl who graduated with me) is your sister's biology teacher....how can I go to a parent teacher conference with someone I remember being potty trained?"
- September 21, 2010 at 7:00 AM
- Nom de plume said...
Hi Dawn,
I'm reminded of a little while back when I was given a "seniors discount" on a coffee by the PERSON (too damn young to be working, I tell ya that) behind the counter. Here, you qualify for seniors discount if you ar over 55, no longer working, and have a seniors card. Me? - 42.
The store owner (who is male, and older than me) laughed at the girl, but for me? - all thoughts of a relaxing cuppa were gone, replaced with deepest mortification and a desire to cry in a corner somewhere. I left my money on the counter (bother) and left the shop.
Worse, I then ran into my Dad - who had just retired and qualified for the seniors discount - and got quite teary while I told him. He laughed. I'm still working on finding the funny side!
Worst of all - whenever I tell that story to other women, you can feel the sympathy but SEE them thinking it glad it wasn't them.
Brooklyn is gorgeous x
- September 21, 2010 at 7:02 AM
- Sherry said...
I feel your pain. We took our kids to our State Fair and took them to the DNR fishing pond on Grandparents Day when the Grandparents could fish with the kids. We didn't sign up so they kept asking us..."Will a grandparent be joining them?" They then looked at my husband (haha) and asked him if he was going to fish. But in all fairness, my husband has a 31-year old who has 2 boys and our kids are 15, almost 8 and just turned 6. We are grandparents but not of our own kids!
- September 21, 2010 at 7:07 AM
- Heidi said...
First of all, love your blog :) Second, you so do not look like a grandma. And it has nothing to do with the fact that I myself am 38 and have a 6 week old (my first child BTW). I think that until you are close the the thirty plus age range you have telling how old someone is in that same age range. For example, I was working in the ceramic studio at the university. I had graduated already, but was still taking classes to work on my portfolio for grad applications. A class was going on that mostly had freshman in it. At the time I was only 25. A student came up and asked me some questions about ceramic stuff. They seemed to think I was a professor. Although I appreciated the complement that I was a professor, I didn't appreciate that the student thought I was 40 :)
- September 21, 2010 at 7:21 AM
- Simple Country Girl said...
You look nothing like a grandma! By the way, I LOVE the new facebook pic! I must share something that happened to me that came back to bite me in the rear end. I have been a girl scout leader for 5 years, thank goodness this is the last year since my daughter is now in 5th grade. Well, 3 years ago we had a girl in the troop and the lady who always brought her looked like she was in her late 50s. Well, at the father-daughter dance later in the year, I was talking to the girl and her dad (I should add her parents were divorced) and said "I saw your grandma today in Wal-Mart." They both looked at me and said "Grandma????" I quickly realized the grandma figure was her mother. Worst part of all, her ex husband had the biggest laugh of his life right there at my expense. I never could look the woman in the eye the remainder of the year. And her daughter never returned to our troop after that year. So now I never assume, I just keep my mouth shut if I don't know. Even though that happened 3 years ago, I still hang my head when I see this lady at school events. There are just some things you never live down!
- September 21, 2010 at 7:50 AM
- Cinderella (aka Kristin) said...
My goodness, I did that once, only it was a neighbor from down the street. And in all fairnesss, another neighbor had told me he thought that little Cindy was the granddaughter, seeing as the other two daughters are in college :) I guess Cindy was a big oops and the mom - not the grandma - took it well and told me she gets it all the time. I still feel bad. But I don't have to go on field trips with them :)
I just noticed that this year too, that I have a warped image of my age, I suppose. I looked around at all these moms and I thought "geez, they're doing well for having had babies at 15...I mean they look like responsible adults and all that. Kudos to them." Truth? These are 25-somethings who are having children at a normal age, but the Scarlett O'Hara in me keeps thinking I'm freaking 25 instead of 38.
- September 21, 2010 at 7:52 AM
- MaBunny said...
Aww Dawn , she looks so happy! and NO you don't look like her grandmother!
Hope she enjoys preschool as much as she thought she would!
- September 21, 2010 at 8:44 AM
- Megryansmom said...
Bwahahaha that happened to me YEARS ago, before I was a grandmother and I was PISSED! Now that I am a grandma, sadly, it never happens.
- September 21, 2010 at 9:12 AM
- Nikki said...
I was asked with our last "how old is your grandson?" I was only 41 and he was just a few weeks old. I was neither impressed or amused. I feel your pain.
- September 21, 2010 at 9:45 AM
- Jill in MA said...
Oh no she didn't!! And you do NOT look like a grandma!!
I'm trying to decide if that's worse than when someone at my daughter's pre-school last week said, "So you're expecting another one...?" Ah, no... that would be the "baby weight" I put on five years ago!!
- September 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM
- V1nce said...
"until Brooklyn starts high school. And then I'll have a t-shirt made that reads, "No, I'm not her grandmother!"
You know by then they'll say great-great-grandma right? Before you swipe me with the cane you don't have just remember I'm talking about how stupid people can be, nothing about you age.
I've learned a long time ago, never even in jest refer to a lady's weight, dress size, hair, possible pregnancy, taste in Harlequin Romance novels, nails, shoes... uh now that I mention it I've learned not to refer to a lady's anything. There's only so much scar tissue my body can handle.
- September 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM
- Amy said...
I laughed out loud at the "to protect the stupid" comment! That just struck me as so funny for some reason. You are hoot! ;o)
- September 21, 2010 at 12:22 PM
- WeaselMomma said...
Ouch! Next time just tell her 'You just hope you're still getting some action when you turn my age'.
That'll fix em.
- September 21, 2010 at 12:40 PM
- The Mommy said...
That's just not right. I will be 41 when my youngest starts preschool (in 3 years, yikes!). If anyone asks ME that, I can't guarantee I will handle it as, uh, maturely as you did.
I am a horrible, horrible, horrible judge of age. I never presume to know how old someone is. Ever. I will say that if I was forced to guess (like, at gunpoint or something) I would guess 28? LOOK AT YOUR FACEBOOK PHOTO, GIRL! That chick does NOT look like a GRANDMOTHER!! SHEESH!
PS Sorry for all those caps but, yes, I was yelling at the computer as I typed them...
- September 21, 2010 at 12:42 PM
- Losing Brownies said...
Oh no! I would never mistake you for a grandmother!
- September 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM
- Nekaya said...
Dawn, you look simply mahvelous!! And let it be known (to those oh-so-dense pre-school parents) that some of us had our first, and only children, at age 40...so there! And look on the bright side: at least that woman didn't ask when you were due! lol
- September 21, 2010 at 1:06 PM
- Busy Mom said...
I've gotten it twice.
- September 21, 2010 at 1:22 PM
- Purple Quilter Queen said...
Surely you weren't in your finest form that day, because looking at your facebook photo, you look amazing!!! No where near grandmotherly age!! Some people have the nerve!! You keep rockin' it Dawn! Jenn
- September 21, 2010 at 1:47 PM
- ~Tammy~ said...
I recently went to a baby shower for a former co-worker. There I was introduced to the new wife of another former co-worker. She appeared to be fairly far along in pregnancy herself.
To my credit, I refrained from asking her when her baby was due. Instead I asked another friend who still worked for the company... I was SO glad I kept my mouth shut. The young lady was just chubby.
- September 21, 2010 at 2:05 PM
- Laura ~Peach~ said...
i am 43 and the grandma of a 16 month old and soon to have a new born with me as well... I feel your pain.
she is growing up so fast!
- September 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM
- Cheryl said...
Last spring I was picking up a good friend's child from preschool, and was asked if I was his grandmother. This other mother apparently thought there was a family resemblance between me and my friend, and jumped straight to mother-daugher rather than, say, sisters.
Nevermind that I'm younger than my friend and was 8 months pregnant at the time.
Some people need to have their vision checked. Or skip that and declare them legally blind.
- September 21, 2010 at 5:35 PM
I feel like an "old" mom too--my youngest is in kindergarten and I'm 39! I feel like everyone else is so much younger and more hip...although I DO feel a bit wiser. ;)
- September 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM
- Cheryl said...
Eleven months ago I had my seventh child at the age of 42 years old and I know exactly what you are saying. I could really be my daughter's grandmother according to my age. I am trying to prepare myself for the first comment about me being her grandmother. I am going to try to keep a sense of humor about it...and then I'm probably going to run and get myself an age defying facial...lol
- September 21, 2010 at 9:22 PM
- jdb in AZ said...
Just tell 'em you're old enough to know better, but young enough to get away with it.
Or, tell 'em you're old enough to sleep alone, and smart enough to do it.
- September 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM
- Steph said...
I'm the youngest of 6 kids. Once, right after my mom chopped my long blond hair into a boy's haircut, I was out with my father. Someone made a comment about how nice it was to see him and his grandson out and about. His response was "Actually, that's my daughter." The poor girl was horrified!
- September 22, 2010 at 12:00 AM
- Julie said...
Got to love the stupid people in life. Without them, what would we write about?
I feel your pain. I'm 42 with a 2 year old so I'm sure I'll get the grandmother comment when he goes to school. I need to come up with a good comeback to have ready.
- September 22, 2010 at 8:45 AM
- Marly said...
Seriously? Did you paint on wrinkles or something? I'm one of those "young" moms, and I don't think you look like a grandma.
Maybe this will make you feel better. I was at the store with my friend who is 15 years older than me and the lady helping told her she told her 'daughter' she would be right out. Umm, seriously? She's not my mom. People should really think before they speak.
- September 22, 2010 at 9:57 AM
- Missi said...
Grandmother.....What? Maybe you should freak her out & carry one of Brooklyn's baby dolls in one day while dropping her off.
My hubby & I met a couple friends to go bowling a few weeks ago. While paying & getting our shoes it was mentioned that it was his birthday. The guy (young kid) asked how old he was. He answered, 37. Then the kid says "My mom just turned 37". I am also 37 & I realize that after getting married young (age 18) we waited a few years to have children, but still. That made me feel old. Another young kid not much older steps up & says first kid just started working here. I said that didn't make me feel any younger.
- September 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM
- Danielle said...
Brooklyn is growing up to really resemble Lexi! Wow!
- September 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM
- lori said...
grandma, thats nothing. i went with a friend of mine when she had to have same day surgery. she is one year older then me. when i was walking into the pre op room with her the nurse said "no visitors, oh thats your mother its ok if she comes." so i look like a 50somethings mother. which means i must look 70something.
- September 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM
- Becs said...
I don't think you can win either way. I had my first at 25, and you would have thought I was 15 by the way people treated me. Mind you, my husband and I had been married longer than most people who were giving us those looks and significantly more education.
Still I guess I would rather be thought younger than older, but just not THAT young.
- September 22, 2010 at 7:14 PM
- ElleBee said...
Oh sweet mercy...this scares me more than a little bit. I'm 41 and expecting our third son in 11 days. My others are 10 and 4. I'll be 46 before Mr. Baby goes to kindergarten, 56 when he starts high school, and 62 when he graduates from college...hmm. It's not even 9 AM and I think I need a drink!
- September 23, 2010 at 8:42 AM
- Vadercat said...
Haha! The thing about the concepts of time (Yesterday, tomorrow, etc.) reminds me of what my little sister used to say xD! ANYTHING that took place anywhere in the past was "Las' night." (Last night)
And... I'm surprised you didn't slug that lady in the face... I would've had to HOLD MYSELF BACK. I would have at least said, "I'm her MOM."
That reminds me of the time when my older sister ((Currently at time was 15)) took my younger sister ((Currently at time was 4)) to the bathroom in this restaurant we were at... I didn't go with her, but when she came back she was really angry and upset looking, but wouldn't say what was wrong. Later, I found out a (*Cough* grumpy old lady) late-middle aged lady looked at her when she walked in and said, "She ruined your life, didn't she?"
When my sister was confused, the lady continued, "Your daughter?" in a really condescending, snooty manner.
Now, my sister is REALLY timid-ish and shy, but this made her mad. If I had been her, I would have TOLD THAT LADY OFF, but that's just me with my... violentness...
Anyway, my sister said, "Excuse me, she's my SISTER," and left. Funny thing is, if Raisha (My younger sister) HAD been her daughter, that would have meant that Nadia (Older sis) was 11 when she had her! xD
-Natasha (Remember when you made it where you had to have an email to comment? I told you that Vadercat2006 is always me, but I'm just makin' sure you remember :) I'll try to always put "-Natasha" at the end. But I probably;y won't remember most of the time xD.)
- September 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM
- dark_chocolate said...
Okay, really, some people just cannot accurately guess age. I had people tell me I look in my late twenties, and others say I look 17. Who do I listen to? The people who are more accurate, that's who! (Those are the ones that say I look 17, by the way. LOL. I am 21. :) So you should just ignore those people, they don't know you anyways. And plus, you look so frickin' da*n hot (& young) in that facebook picture! I cannot believe that some people would mistake you for a grandma; those people are just weird, I tell you! :)
- September 23, 2010 at 12:25 PM
- PamGram said...
I have also been the "young" mom and the "not-so-young mom".I had my 1st at 17 and #5 at nearly 39.At least it's not as bad as my sister inlaw who had twins at 49.It was her 2nd set of twins.What was she thinking?What was I thinking? AAAGHH!!!
- September 24, 2010 at 4:19 PM
- Stressed Out said...
okay about 8 years ago (I was 37, my oldest was 15 and my youngest was almost 4) I went into the local AAA agency with my oldest and youngest daughters. The woman there was on the phone and said "I gotta go. Some lady's here with her daughter and her granddaughter"?!?!?!?!? Even if my 15 year old was technically able to be a mother, she wasn't old enough to have a 4-year-old!!! I still tell that story to this day about how people should think before they speak. (I say this because my oldest sister is 18 years older than me and my mother was accused of being my grandma many a time when I was little.)
I also believe in karma and that woman has a doozy due her!!!
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Once the crashes started to be consistently several times per day, I decided that this was no longer tolerable and asked my boss if a new computer could be spared. He found one that had been lying around, and today I did a clean Gutsy install on it.
WOW. It's like having a new computer. Exactly like that, in fact :) The computer I had before, I suspect, was very underpowered in the CPU department (Pentium III, although I never found out the speed) and had a Savage graphics card which seems to be entirely unaccelerated. The one I have now is hardly brand-spanking-new but it's definitely a step up - a 64 bit AMD processor and an nvidia graphics card of some sort that's considered "nvidia-legacy". I had some hopes that by installing the proprietary driver (yeah yeah I know :( ) I'd be able to get desktop effects enabled, but apparently not. Still, on the old machine everything from clicking buttons to typing in gmail was sluggish. Long web pages would take forever to load, as if I was on dialup. Now, everything seems to happen immediately, no lag.
So I take back all the criticism I had of Gutsy (although I reserve the right to re-criticize if I discover new issues after using it for more than a few hours :) ). There are a few niggles still - sound doesn't work in rdesktop, no matter what I do. I had to google for a workaround to the fact that installing the proprietary nvidia driver locked me down to 800x600. And we'll see if performance is still good after I get all my music off the old computer's hard drive, because Rhythmbox seemed to be one of the most consistent "machine-killer apps" on the old box. (My quirky choice of gtk theme might not have helped, either. I'll pay $25 for someone to take the old marblegtk GTK1 pixmap theme and turn it into a nicely optimized GTK2 theme, whatever that means[1]. Just getting it to work is easy, but I'm sure it's not ideal for best performance in the GTK2 world).
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We eat a lot of scallops here; seafood I never tire of. My local fishmonger is wonderful, patient (because I ask way too many questions) and always knows what's the best catch of the day. He has the best and biggest scallops, as well as the best lobster around. I'm a huge fan of the big scallops not so much of the bay scallops. Although bay scallops are perfect for a seafood sherry bisque. This broiled prosecco-scallop dish came about by the mere fact that I had no white wine in the house, nor any lemons!. And refusing to freeze the scallops because I just think they freeze awful unless you vac-seal them to perfection, I searched the cupboards for something to use. Not finding anything I remembered the bottles of champagne and prosecco I have stored in the garage for special occasions. Perfect! I knew instinctly champagne might be too bitter when cooked, but prosecco is perfect because of it's sweetness.
What a hit these were. I was shocked at how super moist the prosecco kept the scallops while broiling, as well as lending a gentle extra sweetness to the scallops. The best part was how easy and fast this was to throw together. A recipe keeper for sure. Keep this one in mind when you what to impress friends and haven't a lot of time.
cook notes: lemon will not go so well with this. you can try it, but it doesn't taste right and overpowers the sweetness of the prosecco. i love using panko crumbs because the stay nice and crispy. serve the remaining cold prosecco when serving this dish. PLEASE make sure you know your oven broiler well, as these are scallops and they cook fast! i think adding a pinch of tarrgon to the panko crumb mixture might be nice next time.
broiled prosecco-scallops w/ panko crumbs
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about 10 - 12 large scallops, washed, nibs removed
1/4 cup of cold prosecco (or so)
fresh chopped parsley, for garnish (optional)
in a large (high heat) casserole dish spray the dish w/ olive oil or coat with butter. place scallops in a single layer not too close to each other. salt & pepper the scallops. then pour 1/4 cup or so of the ice cold prosecco over the scallops. let them soak all that goodness in for a few minutes. prepare crumb topping. most important: don't walk away from broiler when scallops are in there!
crumb topping:
about 3/4 to 1 cup of panko crumbs (more or less?)
1 stick of melted butter
combine both in a dish; season with a hint of salt & pepper; set aside.
Preheat oven broiler to 450/500 degrees. bake the scallops till just done maybe 4-5 minutes? recipe by dawn finicane of vanillakitchen.blogspot.com. add on the panko crumb mixture and put back under broiler until panko crumb topping is nice and brown--maybe 2 minutes? watch it, it cooks quick


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Starting in the fall of 2013, Crowder College will no longer charge out-of-state tuition.
Starting in the fall of 2013, Crowder College will no longer charge out-of-state tuition.
The Crowder Board of Trustees voted on final reading Tuesday to waive the out-of-state tuition, cutting the cost of attendance down to three tuition rates: in-district, out-of-district, and international.
Those students living out-of-state would no longer pay the $134 per credit hour for out-of-state tuition, and would instead qualify for the $105 per credit hour out-of-district tuition rate.
The Crowder College district, which consists mostly of Newton and McDonald Counties, is made up of the Neosho R-5, Seneca R-7, East Newton R-6, Diamond R-4 and McDonald County R-1 school districts.
Jim Riggs, Crowder's director of admissions, told board members the move could open up a host of possibilities for Crowder College, especially at the future McDonald County campus in Jane.
"When we look at the proximity of our major locations, we're really close to state lines," Riggs said. "Of course, we're looking at McDonald County right now, really the major population concentration, as you know, is Northwest Arkansas. So being able to reach in there and be competitive is going to be a big benefit for us."
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"There's great potential for expansion of online programs because it's going to make us much more competitive tuition-wise when you look nationally," Riggs said. "They could look at us and say 'wow, there's a great deal at this little place called Crowder College.' We could gain quite a bit through that."
Several area colleges and universities have implemented programs waiving out-of-state tuition to some degree. At Northwest Arkansas Community College, students from Missouri, who reside in Barry or McDonald County, are charged an in-state, out-of-district fee. The same applies for Oklahoma students living in Adair or Delaware Counties. While the out-of-state tuition is waived for those students, the out-of-district credit hour fee is still a bit higher than Crowder's at $122.50, compared to $105 per credit hour for Crowder College.
Area four-year universities have also implemented in-state tuition deals for those residing in nearby areas. At Missouri Southern State University in Joplin, the Lion Pride program offers in-state tuition to select counties in Kansas, Illinois, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Pittsburg State University in Pittsburg, Kan., also offers in-state rates for out-of-state students through the Gorilla Advantage program, open to students in select counties from Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas.
Sarah Horine, student services adviser and A+ coordinator at Crowder College, first presented the waiver to the Crowder Board of Trustees in their Oct. 22 meeting.
Horine told board members at that time that the out-of-state tuition waiver could set Crowder apart.
"This puts us in a leadership position among community colleges and universities in allowing us to offer economical access to all students," Horine said.
The board also heard an update Tuesday from Glenn Coltharp, Crowder's vice president of academic affairs, regarding the partnership between MSSU and Crowder College, which will allow students to take classes toward a bachelor's degree in business management at the Crowder College campus in Neosho.
The partnership was announced in October and the program is set to begin when the spring semester kicks off next month.
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"We're excited about the future," Coltharp said. "The numbers may be low at the beginning, they always are just to get programs going, but we think there's a big need."
Following the regular board meeting, the board also met in closed session to discuss personnel issues.


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95 comments:
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 10:51 AM
Sorry ball dropped on this by NWS and most of our local mets. All you had to do was see the NAM had us in the sweet spot as it did with the Blizzard. Now again as with the Blizzard the numbers were way high but you could cut in half and know we were getting 6-10 inches at least. Same with several short term mesoscale models. To make this an advisory and nor warning shows people were not on top of it because they thought winter was over. Heck go back and look at my posts kept say this has a huge precipitation wall and they are under playing this maybe I can get a job?ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 12:03 PM
You you'd need to give your name for a job. This could have gone either way 8 or 9 isn't a complete bust with a forecast of 3-6 imo with this storm. The forecast was stated as very challenging with p-type and lots of moisture. April sun. Time of onset sensitive.Delete
Even the model man himself, CCCC, was very hesitant to give a number with such a marginal late season set up.
I personally think you're being way too hard on the mets there Nostradamus.
- Real SnowdogMarch 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM
Talk about a suck up^ They were dead wrong , they need to come out and admit it. Not sure how you can get " Rochester's most accurate forecast" when your consistently wrong.Delete
- SnowdogMarch 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM
Above is not the real Snowdog. I would never say what this person said. The channel 8 team is accurate. Channel 8 please do not listen to the above imposter. You all do a great job.Delete
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 4:11 PM
really? do you have some sort of deal with them were your obligated to say all positive things about them because they were NOT accurate on this at all , saying 3-6 metro ROC , when in fact it ended being in 6-10'' range. WHEC 10 was right on from the beginning , time to take some notes News 8!Delete
WHEC didn't have accurate numbers until the storm was already underway. No one had accurate numbers actually, except for TWC before they lowered them.Delete
- SnowdogMarch 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM
No , sorry to inform you they had 6-10 BEFORE the storm had actually gotten underway. Better check your facts before you throw stuff out left and right.Delete
I distinctly recall JN making some "tweaks" to the forecast as the storm was happening. In fact, here is the progression of his forecasted numbers:Delete
The first one was posted as the storm was on our doorstep, while the other two were made during the storm. If you've paid attention to my posts here over the past few months you'd know that I don't just throw stuff out there if there isn't any truth to it. And the truth here is that every forecast, every single one, was underdone for the lower elevations.
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM
The way you type, you could not get a job at McDonalds.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM
I see this morning you've stopped trying to predict more than three days out. JohnReplyDelete
Anyone know how much water equivalent we received? That was like shoveling buckets of water.ReplyDelete
Lets not call it a last hurrah just yet. Keep your attention around the April 8th time frame. You never know may be another shot of colder air around the 5th.ReplyDelete
Can I come over and use your hot tub?ReplyDelete
- SnowdogMarch 30, 2014 at 4:09 PM
Channel News 8 is already calling next weekends storm SuperStorm potential , lets all hope we can knock winter out with a bang! Mark my word we're going to end this winter with a huge storm!ReplyDelete
- farmingtonMarch 30, 2014 at 4:27 PM
I'm guessing that wasnt the real snowdog ?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM
Again I am sure this is not the real Snowdog so please stop it is old. There is no storm next week let alone anyone on News 8 even stating that so again please stop. If so please cite your source. I will say this both 8 and 10 are by far the best when it comes to the weather. I have followed the all storms the whole winter before, during and after. I would say that News 10 has been on top of the storms earlier when calling them. KW has been on top of his game while Scott much better last winter. But both are great where KW also has an advantage is when he is off and has JN and RC in for him. They have much more experience than what the other stations have. Long and short of it we have excellent weather people in a tough place to predict winter weather. I have a bigger issue with the NWS because unless your are in the big cities forget about it!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM
I've lost track. How many 6"+ storms at the airport this year? I think the usual is about 4?ReplyDeleteReplies
We had one in November, one in December, one in January, one in February and two in March for a total of 6. The average is indeed 4. We also had three storms that produced 10"+ which is far above the usual one every few years.Delete
There may be a storm system tracking through the Great Lakes next week, but it shouldn't be anything beyond a typical spring storm.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM
Wrong CCCC!Delete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM
Keep an eye on April 8thDelete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 11:29 AM
Could this be the Historic Ice Storm that the one blogger keep posting about to hit the Flower City. Why not throw that in too with the 6 Winter Storms we had this season. Now who thought breaking that 110+ inches of snow mark was unrealistic -- we could reach 115+ inches. Still won't beat Middlebury's mark of 220+ inches of snow.Delete
WPC on next week's system:Delete
In other words, it's going to be very difficult to get any wintry precip of substance out of that storm.
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 2:33 PM
There will be a HIS in the Flower City within the next 2 weeks. Mark it down!!!!!!!!!!!!Delete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 7:15 PM
Somehow it will manage to get wintry precip in Rachacha-- the weather pit of the USA. Man this place sucks.Delete
Thank god, leaving soon. You nuts can have this frozen swamp.
At least the worst of our winter weather is intermittent most seasons. Try living in the Deep South during May through September, where the barrage of oppressive heat and humidity is nearly relentless in a normal year.Delete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 10:06 PM
Well miss Sunshine you don't have to shovel heat and humidity. I'll take heat to this unrelenting garbage any day.Delete
You'll be shoveling well into May this year. Enjoy the "fun".
It's MISTER Sunshine thank you very much. And I'm just saying, it could be worse depending on who you are. I know plenty of people who prefer repeatedly shoveling nuisance snows over sweating to death every day for 5 months, but that's just a matter of personal preference.Delete
"You'll be shoveling well into May this year."
Exaggeration much? Also I live in an apartment so I don't have to shovel. One day I will know the feeling...
Whew , finally a break from the snow. hopefully this is the last snow of the year not sure I can stand any longer ripping people off. There was way too many idiots on the road last night , If you can't manage to go 60 get outta my way! I got driveways to plow.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 8:01 AM
Seriously with the roads the way they were; you truly expected drivers to go 60+ mph. Wonder if they did and got into an accident -- would you stop or contrinue on your way. In an earlier post you talked about ripping your customers off with plowing, and now you can't wait to get more dollars in your pocket. Must be your are part of the 1%.Delete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 9:16 AM
I don't think that original post was the real HP.Delete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 8:01 PM
No it wasn't. He doesn't plow driveways. Anyone who paid attention to this blog would know that.Delete
- WeatherguyMarch 30, 2014 at 11:11 PM
If you guys get a chance, check out the radar returns near Binghamton... Crazy mesoscale band set up!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 7:09 AM
Have to admit it looks like a winter wonder land on Sunday morning with all of the snow on the trees, etc. Love Winter, and truly hoping for one last winter storm before we say hello summer.ReplyDelete
This March will go down as the snowiest since 2001, as well as the snowiest month of the winter season.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 3:05 PM
And for those who consistently complained this Winter season of "being observers once again" or "missing out on the big one"; should be happy to read this. But then again, there is never too much snow.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 3:53 PM
As a snow lover, I liked the winter. However for this snow lover, it loses its appeal exponentially past mid-march. I enjoyed Saturdays snow, but now I hope we're done.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 31, 2014 at 5:59 PM
KW keeps talking about how he thinks winter and snow are not done. He keeps alluding to next week..........ReplyDelete
Yeah, i heard that too. Well, if it snow in April that will be 7 straight months of at least a trace of snow. It all started in October.ReplyDelete
- Chris now in PenfieldMarch 31, 2014 at 8:24 PM
In Penfield, we received about 10". In eastern Wayne County, they got almost nothing.ReplyDelete
- Sal in LyonsApril 1, 2014 at 6:39 AM
From the NWS this morning concerning an upcoming storm system early next week.....ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 7:05 AM
We passed the 110+ inche mark for snow fall. We are on the way to 115+ inches, as some of the local weather folks has implied that "we are not done with seeing snow yet". Plus folks keep indicating to watch for the weekend and next week -- possible more wet snow.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 7:49 AM
Keep an eye to one week from today, Just saying!! There will a HIS in the Flower City within the next 8 days. Mark it down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ReplyDelete
Apparently the blame for this brutal winter can be placed squarely on RIT's broken weather machine. Sorry about that everyone :\ReplyDelete
This isn't really weather related, but it is relevant and I feel extremely compelled to speak my mind about it. I spend some time reading Don Paul's blog along with this one, and I must say that despite the occasional trolling and relative lack of actual moderation here this place is much more tolerable than that one. Example: while we were having a jolly time of it before and (for the most part) during the blizzard, they were busy bickering about each others' personal weather preferences. This wasn't isolated to just that storm either, it's been happening every single day multiple times per day. They've seen a recent influx of people who seem to believe that the mere presence of an opposing viewpoint is somehow a threat to their own opinions, and those particular people seem to take pleasure in repeatedly mentioning how active weather can cost money and how the majority of people favor calm weather. It's as if they're trying to cope with the inevitable weather situation by making the other side feel guilty about their preferences. They also accuse the other side of cherrypicking and spinning while simultaneously perpetrating that very thing themselves. To be fair some of the rebuttals they get are nothing short of petulant, but they also aren't terribly frequent especially now that one of the main offenders in that regard basically rage-quit a while ago. I'm awfully glad those attitudes aren't prevalent here because they're just incredibly obnoxious, and as a result of them several of that blog's former regulars who I used to enjoy seeing contributions from have left there for good. Besides, at least our trolls are funny sometimes. So congratulations, News 8 Weather Blog, on being not the worst place to have discussions about weather and stuff :)ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM
That was nice. CCCC, what is your take on this talk about flooding rain this Friday, and the possibility of another heavy wet snow event for next week?Delete
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM
According to Scott -- 4/8 snow will return and to keep an eye on it. Could bel like Saturday night into Sunday. So the blogger who posted keep an eye on April 8th, you appear to be correct. We might get that April Winter Storm yet.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 8:58 PM
When did Scott say this?Delete
There is no mention whatsoever of any notable ice, so that person is only partially onto something.ReplyDelete
There is a rather strong signal developing for a storm system in the eastern U.S. around the 8th or so, with the majority of ensemble members showing such a thing. The usual potpourri of model solutions ranging from a westerly track to an offshore one exists, but the trend is towards a storm impacting at least parts of the East as the pattern amplifies. Before then we do have a good deal of rain to contend with on Thursday and Friday. The NWS doesn't seem to think it'll be much of a flood concern, but the ground is so saturated currently that even a moderate amount of rain could be problematic in some spots.
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 5:35 PM
For the potential on April 8th; lets hope that the local weather folks do a better job this time around than they did over the weekend. Can't imagine a work day having to deal with the amount of shoveling and the difficult travel on the roads that occurred that many delt with Saturday night and Sunday morning. Found it to be funny that many of the bloggers on Saturday morning were saying no big deal, any snow which falls will melt away come Sunday. The snow piles are still here and slowing melting.ReplyDelete
Anyways when was the last time we could all day that we have had 7-months, yes 7-months of snow, cold, wind, etc (October through April). For those who LOVE Winter, hope that you guys truly enjoyed this one. But then again with global warming, etc. - this might be the norm going forward. One never knows.
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM
Not seeing the possible storm next week many are mentioning. Upper New England. WNY.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 8:53 PM
CCCC can not see those and I am not being negative just can not see it. Could you explain what they are showing as it pertains to a possible storm in WNY next week?ReplyDeleteReplies
Three operational models showing a vigorous low pressure system very close by.Delete
No one is going to be able to view those first two links BTW, apparently they can't be hotlinked so nobody should waste their time with them.
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 9:09 PM
Whoa now I am nervous you say vigorous and close by and looks like 3 legitimate models? But being it is April 8th time frame can there be enough cold air for a lot of snow in lower elevations?ReplyDeleteReplies
Depends on the timing and track of the storm. If it tracks far enough south and occurs largely at night we would get more snow.Delete
- AnonymousApril 1, 2014 at 9:33 PM
Saw KW on his 5:30 report and he said rain next Tuesday.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 7:12 AM
Don't know about others; but I am getting just a little bit tired of still seeing snow on the ground in April, and with a potential winter storm for next week. That will make 7-months of Winter, no Spring, and probably a short Summer -- then back to Winter. UGH!!!!!ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 9:44 AM
I look at it another way. Early-mid March is almost always more like winter and the latter half is generally cloudy, sloppy, wet and muddy, usually lasting well into April. Good consistent weather doesn't usually start till later April/early May.Delete
So, if we can get our March precip in the form of snow instead of rain, I'm fine with that, so long as it's a substitution of snow instead of rain. We've also had 3 sunny days in a row which is pretty rare for this time of year, so all in all not too bad of week so far.
Be realistic also-- April averages close to 4" of snow.
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 7:32 AM
Good news storm idea gone if anything the whole coast looking at a soaking rain.ReplyDeleteReplies
The storm idea is quite clearly not gone. The big question right now is the form(s) of precipitation we can expect.Delete
- WeatherguyApril 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM
NWS has already put up a HWO highlighting the potential for a soaking rain/heavy wet snowfall... I think they realized how badly they dropped the ball on the last one, leaving highway crews scrambling at the last second to clear the roads.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 12:01 PM
Highway crews weren't scrambling. When snow is that heavy it takes ALOT longer to clear roads. Crews still have equipment ready to roll.Delete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM
CCCC or Weatherguy any updates on what the latest EURO and GFS say about our chances of rain or snow next week?ReplyDelete
NWS discussion:ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 12:18 PM
Thanks CCCC!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM
There will a HIS in the Flower City within the next 7 days. Mark it down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 2:27 PM
Big question is? Will we ever get a new post from News 8?ReplyDelete
No , they're almost as lazy as myself during the winter...ReplyDeleteReplies
- hamlin residentApril 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM
HP is not even home from work yet and he would never insult anyone!Delete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM
Are you his boyfriend or something? LOLDelete
- AnonymousApril 5, 2014 at 11:13 AM
Really -- was this type of comments necessary. Not LOL.Delete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM
Scott said no more snow until November at 4.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM
He has rain an d 60 on Tuesday so he is pretty confident this done no wet snow hoo- ray!!!ReplyDelete
Thanks, Hamlin resident and Ray. I have not posted recently and no I would not purposely insult anyone.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 4:32 PM
No you would not.Delete
- AnonymousApril 3, 2014 at 7:31 AM
Come on -- stop this. HP has been one of the bloggers for this site for a very long time. Let respect each other.Delete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM
News 10 also has warm temps and rain. This storm is going to our west thus heavy rain and that is ok.ReplyDelete
I will say I have mixed feelings about April snowstorms. The weather geek inside always roots for snow, while the homeowner and town worker have had MORE than enough snow for one season. As far as next weeks storm Heavy rain or Heavy snow BOTH will make a mess. I will just sit back and wait to see what we get, WHO KNOWS.ReplyDeleteReplies
Above is not the REAL HP , Please disregard anything he/she has said under my name. Sorry about that everyone!Delete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM
This is what I am confused about? Most of the winter the mets would not definite statements about storms until at least 2 days before. This was including dropping the ball the same day last Saturday. Now when I think there are still models not locked in on track they are saying for sure heavy rain 5 days in advance? Just confused even though I get it is April but they said last Saturday things are tougher to predict this time of the year.ReplyDelete
- farmingtonApril 2, 2014 at 4:54 PM
I think to say this far out that it is one way or the other is probably not the best thing to do since so Much can change. A hunch or gut feeling is fine but I would not make plans based on any forecast this far out no matter who its fromReplyDelete
- WeatherguyApril 2, 2014 at 5:02 PM
Ensemble means are split 50/50 east vs. west so way too early to speculateReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM
Scott has done that a lot this year and quite frankly been wrong a lot. Not saying he is wrong here or trying to be a jerk just being honest. News 8 was not Rochester's Most Accurate this winter.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM
I'd really love to know who votes for that or if it's just another self-proclamation they throw at their viewers to stick around.Delete
An independent entity does the rating.Delete
- AnonymousApril 2, 2014 at 5:23 PM
KW same thing primarily rain not white. I now feel pretty confident when both are confident so winter is now done and lets get spring going.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM
Winter is NOT done by any means.Delete
- AnonymousApril 3, 2014 at 7:35 AM
I am still not sure how KW and Scottie are definitive in their no snow but rain stance. It does not look like a definite on the models to me? CCCC any thoughts please based on current model runs?ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM
once again the local weather professionals are WRONG. Explain the snow this morning, certainly was not rain.Delete
Right now rain is the favored precip type rather than snow, but I think it is indeed too early to be definitive. The weekend storm was "definitively" heading harmlessly out to sea at one point, remember that.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousApril 5, 2014 at 11:10 AM
Explain the snow this morning, and the UGG of it all.Delete
- farmingtonApril 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM
I now see scott has 42 for a high on Tuesday and it says "mixed stuff". that is a far cry from 60 and rain. which is why i said i would not believe any forecast this far out especially seeing how things have changed this winter. Expect anything hope for the best.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 3, 2014 at 12:07 PM
Saturday projected to be very windy with 40 mph wind gusts, and 40% chance of snow and rain mix -- UGH! Hope it won't all turn to the wet, heavy snow like last Saturday into Sunday. For those who predicted or wanted 115+ inches of snow; think you might just achieve it.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousApril 3, 2014 at 12:14 PM
There will be a HIS in the Flower City within 6 days. Mark it down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ReplyDelete


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