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I have it: 387 I had it: 69 I want it: 396 My signature: 9
Created in 2004 by Jean-Claude Ellena, Hermessence is a collection of unique fragrances conceived as olfactory poems using perfuming's most exclusive elements. As sober and intense as Japanese haiku, they reinvent a nature that is as precious as it is unusual, as if rendered by the inspired writing of a composer in search of the new.
Enriched each time the perfumer discovers a new country, a language, a culture or simply extraordinary new ingredients, as of today the line consists of eight fragrances, exclusively available in Hermès stores.
Osmanthe Yunnan: conceived after a visit to the Forbidden City of Beijing, this is a silky alchemy of osmanthus petals and Chinese tea whose flowers release facets of freesia and dried apricot.The delicate aromas of tea "lead us by the nose to the Imperial Palace..." Hermessence Osmanthe Yunnan was launched in 2005.
Perfume rating: 4.27 out of 5 with 447 votes.
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This is very beautiful, crystal clear but without the clang. More like clear water, cool and limpid. Tea and a wonderful floral, but with neither sharpness nor sweetness. Unfortunately, it's just too quiet a fragrance for me. I can smell it on purpose, as an experiential indulgence and pleasure (like one does with a tester) but I can't wear it, it's not there enough.
My joy, my goddess, my forever beloved!!! My love and devotion to you shall never die!!
One more great frag of JC Ellena.
Like the Guerlain frags Paris-Tokyo and Neroli Outrenoir, the tea notes come first for quite a while, and then leave the scene for fantastic floral & fruity scents. I really like this kind of sequences.
Regarding the question of the price addressed here by many contributors, I think that this frag qualifies for something between upscale EDTs and EDPs, so a house like Hermes looks like being kind of "in the money" (at least for the 15 ml carry around bag flacon or the 200 ml bottle).
The opening of this perfume alone is worth the price of admission. A few years ago, I first met real osmanthus in Japan in late spring, and was driven half mad running around trying to find the source of the amazing smell. Well, it has been captured in this bottle, although it will disappear in as little as 20 seconds.
The rest of the fragrance is a relatively wearable peach and white tea accord, very soft and quite pleasant, even as it dries down. Like a bottled up Hermes silk square.
Now I know what it's like to be anosmic! Never thought I would completely miss the entire fragrance, like almost every single note of it. After heavy application I am still trying hard to catch the smell of Osmanthe Yunnan, barely recognizing a fading scent of overripe fallen apricots with ants around and nothing, nothing else.
Yunnan :A province in Southwest China,the ''Kingdom of plants''.A region where Yunnan Imperial tea is produced.Osmanthus is a bush bearing small flowers with an unforgettable scent (apricot scent).Tea,flowers and fruits...seductive!
I bought a bottle of this for my vacation in Hawaii and have been wearing it daily now for a week or so. It is a perfect summer or tropical vacation scent. The first note one smells is orange/tangerine which quickly morphs into an effervescent floral tea note which is quite green, not in any way white floral. I sniff my wrist repeatedly after application because it is so beautiful. For a brief moment I considered the possibility that I was sniffing away the whole fragrance - sucking it up into oblivion because it just was not lasting on my skin. I had to reapply repeatedly throughout the day. I am now halfway done the bottle. The performance is more in keeping with that expected of a Jo Malone fragrance. Beautiful but short-lived and no sillage. Projection is non-existent. This is a 10/10 fragrance with 1/10 performance.
Exploring my sample of Osmanthe Yunnan for the second time around and I must admit my first attempt at this got an immediate NO WAY and thumbs down. It smelled green and vegetal with a bit of weird citrus zest. It just didn't seem cohesive. I love real osmanthus (my massage spa keeps them in a bowl) Several months later Im trying it again and at first sniff I was still not feeling it but within short order I got this fresh orange zest, not juicy or edible. Next the lovely sweet osmanthus petals appear, quite realistic I might add, sending the orange into the background but not gone. OY continues to evolve and finally the gourmet tea leaves brings it all together into this lovely sweet uniquely fruity-floral tea delight. I dont' get any noticeable leather or freesia. This is not at all like the typical fruity-florals we've all come to expect and many cases enjoy. I can't believe I didn't experience this the first time around but I'm glad I gave it another chance. It now is a LOVE and on my "must have" list.
I like the strong orange opening, but for some reason, the combination of osmanthus and tea in this reminds me of walking down the aisles of the home goods section at Marshall's. What can you do about olfactory associations? Nothing. And this smells smack of scented candles and disinfectant to me.
That's too bad because it's delicate, and I can see this working for someone, but not for me. Or at that price, perhaps it's not so bad at all.
The opening is a mist of sweet orange and dry, almost dusty osmanthus tea. Unlike many "refreshing" tea scents, this is not iced green with a sprig of mint, this is a steaming pot of golden yunnan whose scent rises in curls from the cup.
In the heat it retains more of the juiciness from the orange and apricot notes, while in cold weather it projects more leather and black tea. I actually find it lingers well on clothing, especially on sweaters. It's also a very versatile, quiet, almost introspective scent- great for warm sunny days, comforting on rainy days, and excellent for museums, outdoor walks, or any time you want a calming, earthy scent.
While many say this vanishes instantly, I find that it doesn't disappear entirely...rather it fades and then wafts in and out unexpectedly, more like hearing a song in your head than carrying a boombox on your shoulder.
'Osmanthe Yunnan' captures the many nuances and facets of the osmanthus blossoms' scent with its stunning citrus-floral fragrance. It opens to a delicious unification of mellow orange and delicate tea notes. This orange is subtle and provides a gentle sweet citrus note. The tea note is beautifully rendered with vegetal and subtle smokey facets. Osmanthus blossom can be noticed next within the floral heart. Ellena has amplified upon the scent of the osmanthus flower which carries with it hints of freesia and dried apricot. It is a very sweet, floral odor with honeyed and milky facets. The included apricot note further heightens this, imparting a succulent, juicy quality. Freesia, another highly fragrant flower, is added to compliment the osmanthus scent profile. The overall character is clean with a degree of soapy facets. A faint hint of leather is included in the base to help ground all the effervescent notes. The animalic leather is perfectly paired to the osmanthus's indolic qualities, rendering a suede-like texture to the scent. (Re-review)
See my more in depth review at my personal blog:
Hermessence Osmanthe Yunnan opens to me with it's soft and a bit dry apricot basenote. Then there is very shortlived but exiting dance with milky chinese jasmin the' and something fresher and a bit suprising I just can't figure out.
This fragrance has a vintage vibe to it. My imagination takes me to a garden. A mature lady. Her honey blond hair in fingerwaves. She is dressed i flowery chiffong dress in a nude blush colour. Arranging flowers. Contemplating. There is no rush. Her presence is not of a expressive sort, she is a caregiver with a soft voice and dry hands, she is a introvert but not shy, a person who likes to have her time and space to herself. Every Hermes scent I have tried has a very luxe feeling to it. That is also the case with Osmanthe Yunnan.The longevity is very poor. I think a perfume must preform better if you want to invest in a full size bottle.
I think this scent is suitable for daytime spring and autum wear.
After a brief citrus opening, Hermès Osmanthe Yunnan soon settles into a black tea fragrance on me. The tea here is relatively dry, slightly smokey and a bit peppery at times, and it feels quite realistic with its leafy texture. I also get a vague floral nuance from time to time, which makes it a nice cup of flower tea.
In contrast, the osmanthus is not very pronounced on my skin. It's not the intoxicating scent of a whole street of blooming osmanthus bushes to begin with. When I make a tea from dried osmanthus flowers, it emits a sort of non-sweet jelly-like aroma, and I only get glimpse of it at times in Osmanthe Yunnan.
The black tea starts to fade after about 4 hours, which leaves more space for other notes to play. I can't particularly discern the leather and the apricot, but I do get the sort of dried apricot skin effect.
The sillage is soft and the longevity is around 7 hours. I approached Osmanthe Yunnan for my osmanthus craving and was unfortunately disappointed by its lack of the namesake flower. However, once I regard it as a black tea fragrance, it's actually well executed and very charming. I'd recommend it as a natural black tea fragrance.
one of the best scent for woman in the summer
zesty, fruity (the osmanthus, the real, recalls the apricot aromas) and balsamic
the silage isn't great but this one of the signatures of Ellena
HEAVEN, but only for an hour. Opens with wonderful grapefruit (notes list orange, but to me it was grapefruity), then has a beautiful apricot phase that is above all others, then high-end black tea. So gorgeous, but could only buy a FB if money was no object I could spritz with abandon.
very light , is very light i can't emphasize that enough zero sillage , it is lovely and there is something that reminds me of bvlgari green tea , the nose is the same but osmanthe is more grown up than green tea , is nice i just wish the sillage was better
I would probably never buy this perfume for myself. Or at least that's what I would have said based on these reviews. First off it isn't a perfume that I like note wise. I'm more into woody, deep, rich scents. Also I like perfumes that project and hang around. Once again looking at these reviews, this isn't one of those.
Let this be an example to me of changing my mind
I was going through a wardrobe and found a big sample of this and another from the collection called santal massoie or something like that...I read about both here, thinking to myself, well this isn't something I'll like, but I'll give it a try.
Boy was I wrong...
I love this light, bouncy, cheerful tea smell. It's made for either men or woman, and this really seems to go between the two sexes...one minute it's light and flirtatious, the next it's a little smokey and more masculine. It's just really pleasant. And boy does it last! At least on my skin it does. Sprayed two blasts on my chest before bed and woke up the next morning with it still flooding my head. Projection seems mild.
At the price this costs, I still probably wouldn't buy a full bottle, but I'm very glad to have found a few millilitres. And I'm also glad to have a perfume that has caused my perception and assumption to vere from reality
Scent 8/10
Projection 5/10
Fortitude 8/10...contrary to many reviews here, it lasts well on my skin
Practically the scent of money.
It smells vastly, unmistakably expensive; of women who never hurry, and only work if they choose to.
It opens sharp and fresh, with notes of sweet apricot and tea.
It mellows to something that balances precariously close to powdery but manages to stay on the right side, if only just. The sweetness also becomes more important at this stage. Not stronger, but somehow more significant.
I don't pick up the osmanthus very clearly - osmanthus blooms are pretty distinctive and I don't get them here.
Nor would I agree that this perfume smalls of yunnan tea specifically (I drank nothing but yunnan tea for about 15 years, and while it is certainly clean and elegant in a similar manner, it also has smoky overtones that this fragrance does not.) The tea here is black.
Sillage is fair - not overly powerful but quite distinct. It sits "just so" on the nose of someone nearby.
Longevity is not great - I thought it had gone within three hours, but eight hours later there is still a recognisable trace on my skin, little more than a memory.
This is an extremely distinctive and very worthwhile fragrance, although I doubt I could wear it regularly.
Edit: and when I wrote this, I din't even know what a bottle of this perfume cost... sheesh...
I get fizzy osmanthus for 5 minutes, then a whisper of faint tea, and then it's all but gone.
Osmanthe Yunnan opens with a really vibrant, yet gentle watercolour blend of thin, lively, slightly sour and quite realistic green notes with a subtle fruity flavour and a juicy sweeter heart (tea), fruity-sugary accents (apricot) and a light, but drier base accord mostly comprising suede and something earthy. A minimalistic "haiku", expressing Ellena's talent at his best: a graceful, perfectly harmonic, terribly refined miniature painting with a really few notes and a palpable feel of calm, a rarefied, bright, icy transparency reminding you of a cold, but sunny winter morning. A subtle powdery-sweet accord provide some sense of colorful warmth. Not much else to describe, as Osmanthe Yunnan is really more a silent, intimate and cozy harmony of green-to-white nuances on a darker shade of suede (and perhaps something woody). Really delicate - perhaps too much, and more than ephemeral; but fantastic until it lasts.
Very beautiful fragrance! Love at first sight! Soft and lovely. Osmanthus, peach and tea: what a beautiful mix. Feels like spring but very soft with minimal longevity. Another amazing creation from Jean-Claude Ellena but unfortunately not worth the price to me. Just wished the sillage would not be so soft...
A lovely, warm, natural floral...
A really lovely fragrance which captures the nuances of the osmanthus plant, and gives the impression of hot tea. It's a very warm and slightly fruity fragrance, and I think this comes from the apricot mixed with the osmanthus itself (osmanthus flower is purported to smell like apricots and Jean-Claude Ellena often uses similar note pairings to enhance the effect of a single note). He has paired the apricot with the osmanthus in the same way that he paired liquorice with lavender and other similar combinations.
The tea and freesia make the fragrance light and airy, with a tang of orange and hint of leather which blends really well with the skin. Overall I like it, and I do get the impression of China with this. For example drinking tea in a Chinese garden in Yunnan surrounded by osmanthus bushes. Or equally a cup of osmanthus tea. I think that is the impression I get from this.
Definitely a floral fragrance of unmistakable quality, yet as with all Hermèssence creations, this one stays close to the skin. Worth trying for sure!
Light, airy and feminine. Great casual daytime scent - highly unlikely to offend in close quarters making it very office appropriate. It may even be perceived as just a clean aroma. Nice use of apricot, freesia and herbal tea notes. Makes it feel very fresh. Great for hot summer days when you just want a whisper of scent. Longevity sucks though so I will be layering over my BBW Sheer Freesia scented body lotion. Should be a perfect pairing.
Scent 8/10
Longevity 5/10
sillage 4/10 (not a bad thing in my book though)
i could see someone wearing this during spring whilst they are out and about enjoying their day.
it has a carefree light and uplifting aroma.
personally i love orange scents and this one does it quite well. i do get a tea and some freesia.
a very light and beautiful fragrance. though quite feminine. i have to admit i do not have any idea what osmanthe is supposed to smell like. but i do get a clean crisp floral.
not a bad perfume i just wished it lasted longer.
*and i don't have fragrance eating skin so i know this one is a weak performer.
sillage 5/10
longevity 5/10
i would not buy this even if it was $40.
but i do like the way it smells. :/
Exquisite, as so many other people have said. This perfume gives off an air of calm refinement, delicacy and balance. I especially admire the way the tea note is handled in OY because it is refreshing without ever becoming too sharp or sour. Wearing OY, I feel relaxed but alert. (It's ideal for a job interview, actually.)It wears best in warm weather; a bit of exercise makes it bloom beautifully on skin.
Whether Osmanthe Yunnan is worth the hefty price depends on whether you believe that good sillage and longevity are integral to the appeal of a fragrance. I tend to. But whatever I think, Osmanthus Yunnan is outside my price range. Even if I were to save up for a full bottle I could only use it in summer and would still need a decant to carry around for reapplication. Osmanthe Yunan is not a practical or versatile fragrance, but it is still an extraordinarily beautiful one.
Osmanthe Yunnan – indeed this is the improved version of TDC Osmanthus and much better! If you found TDC osmanthus interesting and wonderful but find it to girly, osmanthe Yunnan is for you (now, I only need the money for this, haha)
This is beautiful for a few minutes. Then...gone! Pretty pricey for what is essentially a skin scent before you get out of the house.
LOOOOOOVE this one, ive tried lots of osmanthe perfumes, but none of them can actually have real osmanthe smell, not even this one...
but what beautiful of this one is the fragrance is floating in the air gives me a very fairy feeling and that's what i feel when i standing in the osmanthe woods, not too much not too less
i wont pick this one as an everyday perfume, but it does fit some special days.
Elegant, refined and exotic come to mind upon sampling this stunning fragrance from Jean-Claude Ellena. Osmanthus blossom takes center stage with its "jasmine-esque" scent which is punctuated with a luscious stone fruit accord (apricot, peach and nectarine). Again here as in his other Hermessence offerings, Ellena does such a masterful job at blending that it is difficult to pick out separate notes from within the overall fragrance. In my opinion, Osmanthe Yunnan is much more floral and much less tea-laden. Would likely be a show stopper in summer, holding up well against hot/humid climates (perhaps even amplifying its radiance). My only drawback with the fragrance is that it seems rather light on sillage and projection. Perhaps Ellena intended it to invoke an aura of inward reflection/meditation upon its wearers; a moment to detox the mind and rejuvenate the senses. (98)
Osmanthus bushes are planted all over the city of Hangzhou. I love taking a walk at night when they're in bloom. The osmanthus flowers delicately scent the evening air to the tune of chirping cicadas. The scent drifts in and out of my consciousness between the spoken and quiet moments of our walk. Unlike the lily or gardenia, osmanthus flowers have such a light scent that you have to focus to really notice its beauty.
Such is the quality of the osmanthus note in Osmanthe Yunnan. You're only aware of its presence during quiet contemplative moments to yourself. Needless to say, this is one of those "just for me" perfumes, as there is neither projection nor sillage. Although, if money was no object, that could be remedied by dousing yourself with it. A perfect fragrance for a languid summer evening. The summer sun is just too bright and loud for this delicate little scent.
Chinese tea houses - the old ones - have a particular scent to them. I think it has to do with the old wood tabletops, chairs and floors that have had tea spilled on them through many years. It also has to do with the people and the variety of fabrics not to mention the variety of tea on display in wooded cubbies. This fragrance doesn't duplicate that smell but it almost suggests it. Which makes my brain fill in the blanks and almost makes it more real than real.
I went into a Hermes shop to buy another bottle of Eau D`Orange Verte which I ran out of and ended up walking out with this one too. This was literally love at first sniff as well as being teleported 1200 miles in a milisecond into the past.
It is dried white tea fresh and the apricot is beautiful. Nothing artificially sweet about it. It's moist and has a bit of citrus. When you sniff it for the first time you can feel the fuzz on the peach skin just before you take a bite but it's sooo much more. It has this strange acidic milky quality wafting in the background - familiar to anyone who has smelled the evaporating liquid while homemade mozzarella cheese is being made. But, in a super fresh, subtle and silky sort of way.
This is a fragrance I wear to transport myself - even for a split second - to a foreign place and time. This is a fragrance that smells so unlike anything else yet conjurers up memories of specific & familiar scents. This is more magic than wearable fragrance to me, although it is absolutely wearable.
Osmanthe Yunnan smells like I have sat down in a fresh field to eat apricots, with a thermos of green tea to which I generously add wildlower honey. There is also a note of smooth, warm skin (the leather impression?), which makes it unisex. I'm wearing this on my arm although my dress is scented with the unisex animalic musc ravageur, and they are playing nicely. I see how Ellena is at the top of his nosy game, because this scent is so finely wrought that it doesn't entirely succumb to the scented-candle aspect it also has. (This aspect is also what prevents me from loving this fragrance). For a floral fruity, Osmanthe Yunnan has a delicate quality like other reviewers have said, and although fresh I find it borders on the melancholy side of fragile, but I don't know why except to say it reminds me of fleeting beauty. That isn't a comment on longevity, only the mood. I wear this and feel the same as when a beautiful rare bird I'm watching finally flies.
its a wonderful scent, I do not smell the leather note. My only complaint is barely last an hour and its gone.
A very pleasant scent with a fluffy texture. It feels to my nose like the stuffing inside of a little girl's teddy bear. It's very soft, mild, and floral.
When it's wet on my skin I detect the tea note, but after that I only really get the freesia and osmanthus.
It doesn't last long (only lasts on me for an hour), which is a shame.
I wore this again yesterday after almost a year away from it. I remembered enjoying it and also being frustrated at not smelling the tea note I had hoped for. But yesterday, hurray, there it was!! This is truly a delicate scent, and after a winter of ambers and incenses I have to adjust my nose a bit for it... but once I did I realized I had the most gorgeous veil of osmanthus, citrus, and tea whispering at me for almost 7 hours. I love it much more than I did last year, and if it weren't for the high price I would be running out to buy a bottle (I still might have to someday).
Exquisite, gossamer, peach-colored silk of a fragrance. Wonderful.
Yeah. Another bag of money well spent. Sigh. It is a lovely and very delicate scent. Which made me do the purchase. very subtle as all of JC Ellena's works i own. in fact, so subtle that after two hours I cannot smell it on me. Not a trace of it. So yes, again, great bottle, lovely scent, too expensive for the lasting power of a couple of hours.
More detail to come later, but I recently had the pleasure of smelling this spectacular creation. Osmanthe Yunnan is one of the most gently beautiful scents I have ever smelled.
This fragrance captures the feelings of a flower seconds before it's cut. It's harrowing and unspeakably beautiful. And absolutely incompatible with my skin. On me, it turns into ugly past due soap. My skin is dry, I tried to apply it over moisturizer, before moisturizer, with moisturizer - to no avail. The moment I reconcile and wash it off my wrist, it blooms. How sarcastic is that? Perhaps, it was designed for more humid climate. This is heartbreaking. I'm here waiting to take it back if it changes its mind.
This perfume is truly beautiful. More of a true flower scent than a perfume though. And on me it has almost no projection, but lasts a few hours and remains close to the skin for personal enjoyment.. and it is a very good scent to give your nose a rest between Poison and Coco.
It is also made of such good quality ingredients. For example, osmanthus and citrus are paired together in Gucci Flora as well, where it is a headache inducing chemical mess in my opinion (sorry) but here it is a magical combination. This is so nice and.... Zen. Very green smelling, but in a soft, floral way. Not sparkly or grassy or astringent. Just natural. I don't get that much orange from it, which makes me happy because I have enough perfumes with an orange note in them.
Very watery as well, but not as in watered down. Dewy is what I mean, with some presence and very elegant for such a natural smelling perfume. Discreet scent with grace, for a woman that wears minimal makeup and does not overstyle her clothes or hair.
A perfume fit for a nymph....
We've been having extremely hot weather lately... temperatures over 100 degrees Fahrenheit, I wore Osmanthe Yunnan last week in such weather. I leave for work at 5 am and get home around 8:30 pm. When I was coming home, I got in an elevator and was noticing the most beautiful smell. I didn't think anything about it until I got on a subway train and could still smell it.
Anyway, contrary to what I had thought, the fragrance lasted longer than 12 hours... and in the heat it just radiated. If you think it is too light and doesn't last, give it another go in warmer weather. My opinion completely changed from "nice" to "gorgeous"! It also works well on a man like me!
Osmanthe Yunnan is a nice subtle scent that will not offend anyone. It starts with a nice fruit smell of sorts, apricots & oranges pave the way with a lingering note of tea. Leather??? HA! This is a very nice aroma that conjures up memories of sitting in my great granny's backyard looking at the garden where she grew fruits & things as such.
The problem that I have with this fragrance is that it does not project much at all, nor is the lasting power good. It is almost average... I can say that this is one of the fragrances I do not care for from this line, while being nice & inoffensive, it lacks the POWER I would like & appreciate with a fragrance. Natural smell, great ingredients all creates a piss poor longevity concoction. Not full bottle worthy, I'll pass.
I love this scent because it is exactly its name: true osmanthus flower (imagine fully ripe apricots soaked in booze for 3 months, minus the alcohol smell) plus a not-too-dark black tea note. Doesn't smell like anything else I've tried. Unique, without being weird. As I've found with other Jean-Claude Ellena creations, it's so balanced and blended that my nose gets intrigued--I keep trying to sniff deeper into the fragrance to find the bottom! For the better part of the year, this "bottomlessness" made the scent seem to be missing something...a strength or gusto I kept wishing were there but couldn't find. Then I finally wore it on a very warm summer day. Oh, it just bloomed and bloomed so beautifully! It's NOT a fall scent as I had always thought it was. Osmanthe Yunnan really needs well-warmed skin to bloom properly. I will never waste it on a cool day again!
Such an odd fragrance: I can hardly smell it 10 minutes after dousing myself liberally, but here I am, 3 hours later, catching frequent intense bursts of osmanthus and tea, much like the scent of a flower wafting in through a window. Gentle, subtle and just lovely.
This is one of my all time favorites. Somebody started a post about scents for the Year of the Dragon and the dragon is in fact my year and I bought this a few days ago for a Dragon Feeling. And I got it. I'm getting into the moment and I'm working with it. What a beautiful smell.
I have this one since last year. I was enjoying the fragrance... but just this last November, after being at Mariage Fréres - Maison de Thé in Paris, I understood the complexity of this smell...it's totally inspired by that place. I bought a few teas there and my luggage was smelling like Osmanthe Yunnan when I arrived home in São Paulo (green tea, red tea, white tea, citrus essential oils, creamy, fresh, flowers...).
After that I read in Chandler Burr's book that Ellena likes to visit this store.
I love the Hermessence line. I believe that everyone can find at least one favorite in this line...
Another fine tea scent in the Hermessence line, OSMANTHE YUNNAN is practically a yunnan tea facsimile. Unlike POIVRE SAMARCANDE, which gives off wafts of the effect of an Assam black tea (though the composition contains no tea, and I may in fact be in the minority in interpreting it in that way...), OSMANTHE YUNNAN explicitly claims to feature and does in fact, as advertised, convey the literal scent of yunnan tea.
To wear yunnan tea as a fragrance or not to wear yunnan tea as a fragrance? That is the question. Yunnan is not my favorite tea. I prefer darjeeling or assam or sencha or... Although I do appreciate yunnan more than either jasmine tea or oolong (both of which induce a gag reflex in me), I'm not sure that I am all that interested in smelling like yunnan. It's a slightly smokey smell, but, in the end, it's yunnan tea.
Wearing this fragrance makes me feel as though I just took a soak in a bathtub filled with yunnan tea. True, osmanthus is also a featured component of this composition, but to my nose osmanthus is the tofu of perfumery, absorbing any stronger neighbor notes and usually ending up totally masked by them, which is the case here. Although OSMANTHE YUNNAN is certainly wearable, I find it considerably less compelling than most of the other Hermessence perfumes...
I'm editing my original review of this "This is my least favorite of the Hermessence line." Not so anymore!! I gave this another try and whereas before it seemed sharp and citrus, now I am smelling the creamy tea, and leather and I think it's fabulous. This would be sooooo nice on a man.
As I stated before it's very close to the skin, and still doesn't last more than a couple hours on me.
Osmanthe Yunnan is one of my favorite scents ever. The tea-apricot-cream blend is beautiful. It's not strong, doesn't have much sillage after the first half-hour, and the earthy-leather note is blended in very well, so you can hardly detect it. It does last some hours, only it's very close to the skin, which is the way fragrances are meant to be worn.
I absolutely love tea in fragrances because it lends both depth and softness, perhaps it's the clean earthiness I'm drawn to.
Yunnan certainly adds this, while osmanthus is gentle and velvety. Freesia adds a very coy and playful dimension without being frivolous.
However, you need to apply quite a bit to really get the tea vibe. Then pretty quickly, it dissipates into a warm, soapy, light freesia perfume =(
If you like the opening and heart vibe of this perfume I recommend trying Guerlain's Tokyo which is part of their Les Voyages Olfactis range--better sillage and very beautiful and delicately Asian without being 'Oriental' as far as perfume classification goes. Unfortunately, it too is rather expensive but IMO you definitely get a better experience for the money. Also try Bvlgari au The Rouge for the ultimate yunnan experience (without any flowers) and way better psssshhht for the buck!
I tried four fragrances from the Hermessence range and the feeling I had after smelling them itìs that they would probably be more appropriated for the Hermes department store line (i.e. the Jardins serie, the Eaux serie and the Hermessence serie). Depending on your taste, they all smell good but in my opinion they don't fit the idea I have about an "exclusive and axpensive line to be sold only in selected boutiques". They're light, understated, sometimes even inconsistent, basically there's an huge difference between Hermessence and Chanel's Les Exclusives.
Said that Osmanthe Yunnan comfortably moves in this territory, made of hints, barely perceptible notes and short lasting power. An evanescent and efemeral milky tea composition with a fruity-apricot hint. It disappears form your body in two hours. Nice and refined but way too understated and absolutely overpriced.
Rating: 7/10
Hi, I am from Yunnan.
And I just found this perfume today.
I can't wait to have a test.
Es exquisito pero tiene baja intensidad =(
Oh, mmmmmmm......
Such a sophisticated skin scent (no sillage). It opens with some very sharp citrus (smells like bergamot on my skin). It softens considerably although the fruitiness remains, with the apricot mixing with osmanthus. The osmanthus is quite subtle in this one.
I'm shocked that the leather note is so beautiful. It's very, very subtle but definitely adds some warmth and a bit of zing. It completely eliminates the sweetness from the fruit notes, making this a warm yet 'sparkling' scent.
Overall, it's gorgeous! However this is quite subtle and 'sheer'. Is it worth the price? If you love fruity floral skin scents, and if you like exclusive scents, then yes - but beware that the lasting power isn't great, and as noted by Mals86 you need to use a fair amount to really smell it.
I ordered four samples of Hermes perfumes about a week ago: Osmanthe Yunnan, Brin de Reglisse, Un Jardin Sur le Nil, and Kelly Caleche. I received them in the mail today, and I must say Osmanthe Yunnan was my favorite. It is absolutely beautiful. It smells like dried black tea leaves, apricot, and flowers. I would buy a full bottle of this right away if it weren't for the jaw-dropping price. But I would definitely recommend this to anyone. :)
I sampled two bottle of it from the Hermes stores, the saleslady is very nice~
I absolutely love this perfume! The sweetness of it is very special, guess that's the apricot? it's not sweet in the sense of sugar-coated fruity banality!
However, the price is a tad bit too expensive for me to spray guilt-free lol
This is gorgeous. Light citrus, black tea, and osmanthus - which smells quite a bit like dried apricots. I'm trailing faint whispers of apricot-tea everywhere I go. Ethereal.
However, Hermessences are way way too expensive for me to be able to buy a big bottle and spritz with abandon, the way one needs to spritz in order to trail even faint whispers. (I used nearly all of a 1 ml dabber vial, and I NEVER do that.) So, as lovely as this is, I won't be purchasing.
Although the opening of Osmanthe Yunnan is a bit sharp -- a sort of apricot scalpel -- the scent soon morphs into warmer, more comforting territory, with an overall effect of water dappled with sunlight. Wear this fragrance when you want something to hug close to your skin and shield you from the cruel, cruel world.
Smells like Tangerine tea with apricot jam. Delicious and light.
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A: For some body parts, the drugstore has little to offer. But you're right: There are many foot products. To find out if they're really helpful, I checked with my colleague, Dr. James P. Ioli, assistant professor of orthopedic surgery at Harvard Medical School. Here are our thoughts on some common foot-care products.
-âAn arch bandage might make your arch feel better and more supported, but it won't change the structure of your arch or fix serious problems. People with diabetes or poor circulation should avoid these because they could reduce blood flow through the foot. If you don't have circulation problems, it might be worth a try. Some of my patients really find that arch bandages help their feet feel better.
-âCallus and corn cushions are simple and effective. The doughnut shape keeps pressure off calluses and corns. Change them often; otherwise the skin underneath will start to break down.
-âStay away from callus and corn removers. The active ingredient, salicylic acid, can harm the healthy skin around the corn or callus.
-âDetoxifying foot pads claim to absorb impurities from the body and aid "natural cleansing." In a word - bunk! The best way to clean your feet is by washing them with soap and water.
-âFoot files are OK, but use with care. Don't scrape and scrape until you start to bleed. An old-fashioned pumice stone is a more gentle option for removing dead skin.
-âFoot powders are better than many sprays and can help with sweaty and smelly feet. Some brands contain menthol, which creates a pleasant sensation and smell. Others have antifungal medication.
-âMoleskin products are cotton flannel with an adhesive backing, not actual moleskin. They are good for reducing friction points in shoes caused by bunions, calluses or corns.
-âNonprescription orthotics are worth a try before considering the prescription ones, which cost a lot and usually aren't covered by insurance. The flat, foam and gel orthotics cushion the foot nicely. If you overpronate (if your foot rolls inward) or have arch problems, buy a pair with arch support.
Some doctors don't take foot problems seriously. After all, they're not fatal. I was probably like them until I developed some arthritis in my feet. It was then I realized how much we walk in the course of a day, and how irritating it is to experience pain whenever you walk.
So it's good that simple over-the-counter solutions can help out with foot pain. Some are worth trying; others are definitely not worth the money.
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Some mares hardly change when they come into heat; others may behave erratically, sometimes due to sensitivity in their backs and sides. © susanjstickle.com
She stamps and squeals when other horses pass her stall. She forgets her manners, swishing her tail and trying to nip when you groom and tack her up. And when you ride she's a total airhead, ignoring your aids, whinnying, jigging and dancing, rubbernecking right and left.
Yes, your mare's in heat, and how you feel about that likely depends on your plans for her. If this is the year you plan to breed her, you may welcome the signs. If she's days away from an important competition, not so much.
Timing is everything, either way. In this article Karen Wolfsdorf, DVM, a specialist in equine reproduction at the Hagyard Equine Medical Institute in Lexington, Kentucky, explains how you can influence your mare's heat cycle to meet your goal—whether that's top performance this year or a new foal at her side next year. For an overview of exactly what goes on when she cycles, see "The Heat Cycle" below.
Unwelcome Behavior Your mare may hardly change when she comes into heat, or she may behave so erratically that you wish you'd bought a gelding. Most fall somewhere between those extremes. You may notice that she's increasingly distracted. She may develop a passionate attachment to one of her barn buddies and whinny constantly if that horse is out of sight. She may squeal and kick out at the slightest provocation. She may also become sensitive in her back and sides and throw hissy fits when you apply leg pressure. Some mares are unusually spooky as estrus approaches.
How much of your mare's behavior is due to hormone swings? "Ovaries are unfairly blamed for lots of problems, including lameness and training issues, so first rule out other causes," Dr. Wolfsdorf says. Discuss the problems with your veterinarian and your trainer. Keep a journal of your mare's behavior.
Consistently abnormal behavior is more likely to be a sign of underlying problems not related to your mare's cycle, Dr. Wolfsdorf says. For example, ovarian tumors occasionally occur in mares. The most common type, the granulosa-cell tumor, can produce testosterone and other hormones that trigger aggression or "studdish" behavior, such as teasing other mares. Your mare may appear to be constantly in heat or never in heat. (Your veterinarian can find these tumors with rectal palpation, ultrasound and hormonal testing, and they can be surgically removed.)
If you find that your mare's behavior fits the normal cyclical, seasonal heat pattern—she's great for two weeks and a basket case the next week—odds are it's heat-related. How big is the problem? Unless her behavior is a danger to herself or others, the answer depends on whether it interferes with what you want to do. If she's harder to ride or doesn't perform well during estrus, you may decide to just take it easy or give her time off on those days. But if you need to stick to a competition or training schedule, you may decide to control the timing of her heat cycle with hormone therapy.
Hormone Therapy Medications to control the cycle are available by prescription from your veterinarian, who can help you figure out what's best for your mare and your situation. Most of these medications don't affect long-term fertility and, because most mimic hormones circulating naturally in your mare's system, shouldn't run afoul of competition drug rules. "Every mare is different," Dr. Wolfsdorf notes, "so some approaches may work better than others for yours."
Progesterone. This is the hormone that dominates during diestrus and keeps the mare from coming into heat. There are various types, with varying effectiveness. These medications should be used cautiously in mares with a history of uterine inflammation or infection because they can make that condition worse.
Regu-Mate(altrenogest) is a liquid oral medication that provides a synthetic source of progesterone. If you start it during diestrus, it will prevent your mare from returning to estrus as long as she continues to get a daily dose. When you stop, she'll probably come into heat within five to 10 days. It's easy to ?administer and works well in most mares.
Progesterone injections are given into the muscle and usually take effect within 24 hours. The injections delay heat anywhere from five days to a month or so, Dr. Wolfsdorf says, depending on the type of progesterone, the administration vehicle (the substance mixed with the active ingredient) and the individual mare's ?response. Medoxyprogesterone acetate?the human contraceptive
Depo-Provera is sometimes given, but studies have shown it to be less reliable than other forms of progesterone as a way to suppress estrus in mares.
P&E. Progesterone combined with estradiol 17B (a form of estrogen) may help when progesterone alone doesn't solve behavior problems. This happens in some mares, Dr. Wolfsdorf says, because progesterone delays the onset of heat but doesn't stop ovarian activity so follicles can still develop in the ovaries. Adding estradiol suppresses follicular activity.
Oxytocin. This naturally occurring hormone is also used to suppress heat. It can delay estrus for 30 days or more, Dr. Wolfsdorf says.
More Options Beyond hormones, there are few good options for controlling heat-related behavior.
"Herbal supplements will not keep your mare from coming into heat, but they may help calm her down," Dr. Wolfsdorf says. These supplements don't work for every mare, and some respond better to certain products than to others. If you compete, pay close attention to ingredients and check with the association governing your sport to be sure the product won't violate medication rules. Herbs such as valerian, vervain and passionflower, used in some of these products, are on the International Equestrian Federation (FEI) list of forbidden substances.
Ovariectomy—spaying—is a last resort. The surgery can be done standing with local anesthetic and sedation. But, Dr. Wolfsdorf says, "We don't recommend it as a behavioral fix. It's usually done for tumors or other pathology." It may not solve behavior problems, she explains, because taking a mare's ovaries leaves her with no source of progesterone, the dominant hormone that keeps her on an even keel during diestrus. You'll most likely need to give her supplemental progesterone.
New treatments may be on the horizon. In a chance discovery, British researchers found that infusing small amounts of coconut oil into a mare's uterus 10 days after ovulation can extend diestrus in much the same way that oxytocin injections do. The researchers think that the mix of fatty acids in the oil is responsible. "The method isn't used much yet, but it may be something for the future," says Dr. Wolfsdorf.
Estrus, the heat period itself, usually lasts five to seven days. During this time an egg (ova) develops within a follicle in one of the mare's ovaries. The developing follicle produces estrogen, and rising levels of this hormone account for the behavioral changes—"behavioral estrus"—you may see. Toward the end of estrus, she may squat to urinate frequently, raise her tail and "wink" her vulva. These signs are meant to let a stallion know that she's receptive to breeding.
Ovulation occurs a day or two before the end of behavioral estrus. Once the mature egg is released, what's left of the follicle develops into a structure called a corpus hemorrhagicum, which matures into a corpus luteum by six days after ovulation. It stops producing estrogen and begins to produce the hormone progesterone, which prepares the uterus for pregnancy. If the mare is bred and becomes pregnant, the corpus luteum and the placenta will continue to produce progesterone for the next 11 months. If not, the cycle repeats.
Diestrus is the 14- to 15-day period when the mare is not in heat. With progesterone dominant and estrogen levels low, signs of heat disappear. Near the end of diestrus, the mare's endometrium (the lining of the uterus) recognizes that she's not pregnant and begins to release other hormones. One of these is prostaglandin, which breaks down (lyses) the corpus luteum. An increase in follicle-stimulating hormone leads to follicular development with the start of the next estrus.
Anestrus is the winter dormant phase, brought about by short days and long nights. Your mare may start to show hormone-related behavior in February and March, when her reproductive system begins to wake up. During this transitional phase she may briefly come into heat, cycle in and out of heat or stay in heat for weeks.
If You Want to Breed Start by scheduling a breeding soundness exam before the season begins, Dr. Wolfsdorf says, so you'll have time to clear up infections or other problems that might prevent a successful pregnancy. Then monitor—or manipulate—your mare's cycle to time her breeding.
Check and confirm. The best and easiest way to recognize heat is with a teaser stallion or colt.
Either way, once you know your mare is in heat, have your veterinarian confirm it with transrectal palpation and ultrasound examinations. Your mare should be bred as close as possible to ovulation—no more than a day or two before and no more than six hours after. Since heat lengths vary depending on the time of year and the individual mare, the timing may be hard to judge. Rectal palpation and ultrasound allow the veterinarian to assess the size and softness of the developing follicle, the amount of edema (swelling) present within her uterus and how open her cervix is. The findings help determine when your mare is likely to ovulate. "If she has a 40-millimeter follicle and good edema, for example, she'll ovulate sooner than she will with a 20 mm follicle and developing edema," Dr. Wolfsdorf says.
Short cycling. Using hormones to bring your mare into heat—short cycling—lets you plan breeding more precisely. "This can be especially helpful when you need to coordinate delivery of shipped semen and a visit from your vet for artificial insemination," Dr. Wolfsdorf notes.
The hormones used are prostaglandins—a natural form (Lutalyse) or a synthetic (Estrumate). Like the prostaglandin produced by the lining of the mare's uterus at the end of diestrus, they break down the corpus luteum and stop the production of progesterone. That allows the mare to come into heat.
Getting a Head Start Thoroughbred mares are often bred in February or March to ensure that their foals are born as close as possible to January 1—the official birthday of all racing Thoroughbreds. "But you can't just pull a mare out of the field in early spring and expect her to come into heat," Dr. Wolfsdorf says—the days are too short to trigger the hormones that govern her cycle. She needs at least 15 hours of daylight each day.
To breed in February, plan ahead and put her under lights. Increase the hours of light at the end of the day, say by keeping lights on in her stall until 11 p.m. "The light must be strong enough for you to easily read a newspaper everywhere in her stall," says Dr. Wolfsdorf, "because she'll tend to hang out in the darkest corner." Most mares will begin to cycle after about 60 days of extra light.
You can also try to induce the cycle with hormones. This works best in the transition stage, in early spring. Prostaglandins won't help at this stage if no corpus luteum is present, but a combination of progesterone and estradiol may. Follicle stimulating hormone, gonadotropin-releasing hormone and other hormones are also used. "There are lots of protocols," Dr. Wolfsdorf says, "which tells you that none works perfectly.
This article originally appeared in the January 2012 issue of Practical Horseman magazine.
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One of the Atlanta's most desirable neighborhoods in the late 19th century before falling into disrepair in the 1960s, the Old Fourth Ward is also where Martin Luther King, Jr., grew up and honed his preaching style. In recent years, the "O4W" has become a striking symbol of intelligent gentrification in the Georgia capital, a place where abandoned warehouses are being converted to lofts and small businesses are thriving–while the authentic flavor of this historic area remains preserved. Here are ten reasons to love this ever-evolving neighborhood.


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Feels like they've had the last laugh now... Could you at least do us favour and make it so that the neg rep comments disappear from our boards? It just doesn't help when you're seeing that every time you look at your board...
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 34
(That being said, that "fag detected" comment is inappropriate, and we consider that rep abuse. You could have reported that.)
2012-12-15, 15:34 | Link #5 |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
I must admit, when I discussed this with you a few months back I assumed you were simply being diplomatic and stating that the staff were taking it into consideration while in actuality dismissing it as being an issue. Tons of respect for proving me wrong.
2012-12-15, 15:36 | Link #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Tennessee
Age: 29
O_O Well, this was unexpected. Might be a silly request, but maybe in these final days, you could make it so that more than just the most recent five reps show up in the User Control Panel (as you mentioned as being possible here)? It was always flattering when someone said something positive about my posts, so it would be nice to be able to Ctrl + S those years of memories.
2012-12-15, 15:39 | Link #7 |
Dream Banger, Love Liver!
This is an interesting decision.
I can definitely see why the moderating staff has made it. But I won't lie - Part of me will be sad to see it go. I've largely been a beneficiary of the rep system, and I have to admit that receiving pos rep with nice little messages next to them felt rewarding at times. On a more serious note, my main worry here is that you may, at least in the short term, see a bit more open flaming (since the anonymous neg rep outlet is now removed). I know some message boards where rudeness and flamewars are tolerated much more than they are here, and I'd hate to see Anime Suki descend to such levels. So I hope that's something that will continue to not be tolerated here on Anime Suki. I do have one forum suggestion I'd like to make, and it's tied to the decision to get rid of rep. Would it be best if I made that suggestion on this thread, or started a new thread with it?
2012-12-15, 15:43 | Link #8 | ||
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Age: 34
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If it's directly related to future possible rep systems (etc.), then here is okay, but if it's just another suggestion precipitated by this decision, then perhaps a new thread is better. One thread one topic and all...
2012-12-15, 15:43 | Link #9 |
blinded by blood
So how are we supposed to detect trolls without the rep system? I won't name names, but people I see with rep disabled or red squares often end up being rather trollish.
Additionally, I'll miss the little green squares next to my name.
2012-12-15, 15:54 | Link #10 |
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: New York
There were parts of the system I didn't understand and questions like: "How many pluses gets a green bar?" "What is the uppermost limit?" "What are the alt-texts for all the ranks?" Glad I don't have to worry about those things anymore.
2012-12-15, 15:56 | Link #11 |
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Hamburg
Age: 47
I also disagree that this is a good idea. I see your point about long-time visitors having too much impact, so why don't you just divide all reputation points by 10 or more and restart? It DOES contain useful information, like synaesthetic already mentioned.
2012-12-15, 16:06 | Link #12 |
Graphic Designer
Well this is news to me. The decision's final and all, but aside from the few bad folks lurking about, the rep system was what separated me from being a long time lurker to an actual poster. Not in the sense that one would post for rep, but by receiving it, one would feel like they were contributing more to the community who appreciated it.
I have an inkling you may hear from a few general and Fan Creation veterans too, since they built up that rep for a long time. As for me, it's a little sad to see it go, but I'll adapt. There is a sense that I, amongst other people will be watching something we built up for a while get wiped in one instant. That might not be as pretty, but at least it'll be on Christmas Eve where I'll probably be preoccupied. Looking forward to seeing how it all works out.
2012-12-15, 16:11 | Link #14 | |
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 34
So in other words, gone for now in this form doesn't necessarily mean gone for good in any form.
2012-12-15, 16:19 | Link #15 |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 31
To be honest, I don't. Since the decision is final I'm not arguing against it, but as far as discussion goes... Mentar, you're a member from 2003; do you remember when we first joined the site? It took forever to get an extra box because everyone's "rep-giving power" was limited to one or two points. Having two boxes was a big deal; three was huge. Since then there's been major point inflation, with newly-joined members easily accumulating enough "rep points" to catch up to and exceed the amount of "rep points" held by older members. Consider that new members pretty much only need around 10 positive reps to gain an extra box, where we needed closer to 100 when we were new. There were also fewer members on the site to hand out rep. But now we seem to be reaching the system's maximum, with my account and many others seemingly having hit the maximum number of green squares that can be achieved. I don't know the exact numbers, but the amount of "rep points" added or subtracted through my account don't seem to be so great compared with accounts that are a bit younger. So an account that's one year old doesn't have as much point-giving potential as one that is ten years old - is that a big deal? Doesn't it encourage user longevity? And if it really is a big deal, can't the point-giving power be adjusted, instead of trashing the whole system?
synaesthetic raises a good point about the usefulness of the system. I'll miss that aspect. My only request is that we not replace this with those systems of up-voting and down-voting individual posts.
2012-12-15, 16:34 | Link #18 |
Femme Fatale
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Dec 2011
Age: 22
Well, this sure is a bit of a surprise. It was when I got my first reputation award that I decided to continue posting. And I'll do so regardless, but I can't help but feel a little sad to see it go. But, at the very least, I suppose that means there'll be no more anonymous negs. Or complaints about them.
But at the same time, I do like that posters are being encouraged to use VMs more. There's more room for proper conversation that way.
2012-12-15, 16:35 | Link #19 |
I think removing the "comment" is way more better than removing the entire system. Many had give their best to received them deservingly. I think you must reconsider this for this will have a big impact to the whole forum. I admit the system sucks in the beginning but honestly it made me realized that the system is a mirror of the people's perception of you.
Lastly, I suggest you make a poll first before doing this.. Have every opinion counts.. Thank you. |
2012-12-15, 16:39 | Link #20 | |
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"The Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy and WIPO"
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Posts Tagged 'WIPO'"The Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy and WIPO"Posted October 7th, 2011Click HERE to read WIPO's paper on The Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy and WIPO. Tags: UDRP, WIPO "WIPO Expresses Trademark Concerns On New gTLDs And UDRP Changes… Again"Posted August 24th, 2011As published to the GoldsteinReport.com: "Sounding like a broken record, WIPO has published an update on their activities as an international resource for time- and cost-efficient alternatives to court litigation of intellectual property disputes, acting both as a provider of legal and organisational expertise and as an administrator of cases. In the report WIPO expresses concerns to the introduction of new gTLDs and a revision to dispute resolution under the UDRP with trademark issues at the heart of their concerns." Click HERE to read more. Tags: WIPO As UDRP Filings Hit Record Levels, WIPO Guidelines ExpandPosted March 31st, 20112010 was a good year for WIPO as UDRP filings rose 28% above those filed in 2009 thanks in part to paperless filing options as well as legal index and overview services. Since the launch of the UDRP process in 1999, the WIPO center has received over 20,000 UDRP cases with the top five areas of WIPO complainant activity in "retail, banking and finance, biotechnology and pharmaceuticals, Internet and IT, and fashion". WIPO have also just released a major OVERVIEW of the process full of new additions and amendments to reflect the changing Internet ecosystem. Click HERE for more information. Tags: UDRP, WIPO WIPO Launches New On-line Tool to Facilitate Brand SearchesPosted March 8th, 2011"A new on-line tool launched by WIPO on March 8, 2011, will make it easier to search over 640,000 records relating to internationally protected trademarks, appellations of origin and armorial bearings, flags and other state emblems as well as the names, abbreviations and emblems of intergovernmental organizations. The Global Brand Database allows free of charge, simultaneous brand-related searches across multiple collections." Click HERE to read more. Tags: WIPO Letters of Concern Over New gTLD's Influence Program DelaysPosted December 14th, 2010All the noise and excitement around the progress of New gTLDs can sometimes drown out those with "technical" concerns. In the days leading up to the Cartagena meeting, heavy pieces of correspondence were dropped from some high places expressing general dismay with the way that the process is moving forward. To those who are new to ICANN, this sort of clash is not unusual. Problems have been cropping up and being resolved throughout this process. Some of these problems seemed unsolvable but proving that bottom up consensus can work, they were solved. As the years wear on, as a community we are able to see a bit more clearly that some concerns are founded and some are not. The concerns arising this close to the possible kick off of the program are not new. They are problems that ICANN and the community involved with New gTLDs have been grappling with since the announcement of the program at the ICANN, Paris meeting. Both the United States Department Of Commerce (USDC) and the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) disagree with certain aspects of the way that ICANN intends to move forward with New gTLDs. The USDC sent a scathing letter to ICANN, accusing them of not holding up their end of the bargain on the affirmation of commitments. The lack of a conclusive economic study was specifically cited. The letter was sent on December 2, 2010 just three days before the ICANN Cartagena meeting was set to being. On the day following the publication of this letter, ICANN published the Phase II Economic Study (which can be read HERE). WIPO's letter was also sent on December 2, 2010. They cited concern over RPMs (Rights Protection Mechanisms). Erik Wilbers, Director of WIPO's Arbitration and Mediation Center in his letter to ICANN states: "[O]nly RPMs that work, for all parties, will contribute to the genuine credibility of ICANN's New gTLD Program". WIPO is also concerned that the New gTLD initiative will lean too heavily on them to provide dispute resolution. While ICANN has named several dispute resolution providers, this has not quelled WIPO's fears. To the credit of ICANN, they listened to these concerns and at the board meeting that closed the Cartagena meeting on December 9, 2010 "clarified that the Board had listened and in the spirit of the consensus driven, multi-stakeholder model passed resolutions that granted Internet stakeholders more time to work through remaining issues on several topics." A consultation has been set up for February to address outstanding issues as well as the public comments on the Proposed Final Draft Applicant Guide Book. ICANN stated that it is proceeding with caution regarding New gTLDs and at the conclusion of the meeting, ICANN Chair, Peter Dengate Thrush was quoted saying, "We would rather do it right than do it fast." The following is a summary of the concerns from WIPO and the USDC. If you should agree or disagree, please share your thoughts with the ICANN community in their comment threads. Tags: ICANN, new gTLDs, United States Department of Commerce, WIPO What Does WIPO Have To Do With E-Books For The Blind?Posted November 9th, 2010Click HERE to find out. Tags: WIPO Disputed Domains Heard By WIPO Up in 2009Posted March 23rd, 2010In 2009, the number of disputed domain names arbitrated by WIPO jumped for the third consecutive year, jumping by 18.5% to 4,688 from 3,958 in 2008. This compares to an increase in domain registrations of 8% over the same period to 192 million from 177 million in 2008. See the full story from DomainNews.com HERE. Tags: domain disputes, WIPO For The Love Of All That Is Holy, Give Willie Mays His Domain Name Back!Posted January 12th, 2010Willie Mays has filed for arbitration with WIPO for WILLIEMAYS.COM. Click HERE for the full story. Tags: Willie Mays, williemays.com, WIPO WIPO To Offer Fast-Track UDRP?Posted November 2nd, 2009What would a fast-track UDRP process mean for trademark holders and how can this be? 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The Horse Forum
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- - Drama on the farm- enough for the year!!
Drama on the farm- enough for the year!! So at some point, laziness becomes neglect. This is just a rant, but I have had enough drama over this past weekend for the year ::knock on wood:: I live on 6 acres of a 19 acre property. I lease a stall and share the pasture with our 1 neighbor. I have 1 horse, they have 9 goats and a gelding. Sine we moved in last September i have been horrified by their laziness. When their goats get their horns stuck inthe fence and scream, my husband or i go out to free them. When their goat gave birth to 3 babies this past winter, we found them, one dead, and brought the others inside to warm them. When we told them we took the other 2 in, they made a warm area inthe barn for them until the temps warmed up. Their horse doesnt get shots, i havent seen a coggins test results, etc. They never blanket in the winter, they stopped feeding hay once spring came, and they are always out of feed. Plus i take care of btoh horses, and they only feed their goats once a week. So heres my gripe is this past weekend I ended up saving 2 of their animals: Their goat stuck its head in their horses feed bucket at dinner and then lited its head, getting it stuck around its neck and being chased by the horse. I ran around for 35 minutes until my hubby came out to assist. The goat ended up tripping and getting stuck head first in the bucket until he was freed. Then when i was riding yesterday and letting some friends ride, i put their horse in their 2nd pasture with goat fencing (with the squares) Well, he didnt like being separated, and stuck his leg trough the hole, getting it caught. He ended up getting his nose caught on the fencing making it bleed a little, and thankfully he trusts me and my hubby and I were able to cut the fence to get his leg out. But it could have ended very differently. So When does laziness become neglect?? I'm tired of taking care of their animals. I had my friend knock on their door bc we didnt think we had wire cutter and when she answer she saw us free his leg, and just said "ok it looks like they got him out" that was it. Didnt check on him, nothing. Of course my horse got his leg stuck on the autowaterer hose this weekend also, but that was just a dumb move, which i got him loose with no problems. It wasnt even around his leg, just stuck on the bottom of his hoof. I'm frustrated with poor ownership. |
I understand your frustration, but these aren't your animals and you're just rewarding the owners' neglect by taking care of their animals for them. However, a few of your points are just differences of opinions and not necessarily neglect or laziness. Some people don't give vaccinations, nor do they have coggins pulled. Also, as long as there's pasture, many animals aren't fed hay or even grain during the summer months. If they're maintaining a good weight, they don't need the extra calories. If a horse isn't leaving the property, why have a coggins test? I have a 25 y/o horse who hasn't had a coggins in years. He's been retired since he was 20, so I don't see a need to have one pulled. The two riding horses have them though, because they frequently go out in public. Vaccinations aren't mandatory, but they are recommended. Some folks just don't want to spend the money. I personally think it's foolish not to vaccinate, but I can't force others to think like I do. Bottom line, these aren't your animals and you need to stop caring for them as if they are. If they're underweight and being neglected, call AC. Otherwise, you're going to have to learn to turn a blind eye. Easier said than done of course, but for your own sanity you're going to have to. |
So in the example of her gelding getting caught on the fence.. just leave him there? In the event they arent going to feed their horse, just bring him into his stall and leave him bthere to hear my gelding chomp away at his food? I dont leave him out to pasture because they go crazy without eachother. Thats one reason i feed them at the same time, to avoid any fights. My horse is low on the pecking order, so i cant leave him in the pasture to eat while the other horse pushes him out of his space. As for the goats... i just have a kind heart. I cant stand to think how long the goat would be stuck for if we didnt set him free. Your right about difference of opinion, and I will reconsider my beliefs on that being neglectful. I simply was taught an entirely different manner of caring for horses, or any animal. I guess eventually the horse would have kicked the goat that stole its feed and it would have been out cold so he could have pulled the bucket off his head, or maybe it could have ended in disaster. Who knows. Same with the horses leg through the fence... The fence was digging into his chest,into his knee, and stuck on his hoof. I probably could have ignored it. But he was fighting hard to get it out at first, until i walked up to him and reassured him. Then he relaxed and let us help him. But what if nobody was outside? He could have been seriously injured. I cant let that happen to any animal because of a humans stupidity. My quote to my hubby is "The horse didnt chose to have a stupid owner" and i cant sit idly by andc watch an animal get inured if i can prevent it. Thats part of what makes me such an animal lover. |
Also, this is more than about their horses. They have 6 dogs, all outdoor dogs. They are always roaming looking for food, they drink out of a stagnant pond, the sheriff has been to the house 4 times because 2of their dogs repeatedly attack a neighbors fenced dogs. It just saddens me because they see nothing wrong. When we first moved in one goat was very ill, neighbor told me he was just waiting for him to die. When theyre horse was consistently drooling, they were concerned, but ont enough to call the vet out. Thank goodness i was able to tell them it was a weed the horse was eating, but what if it hadnt been? |
I'm just saying that you running yourself ragged over someone else's animals isn't good for you. You're not obligated to care for them, and you can't make people be responsible. Sure, it's frustrating and I understand where you're coming from, but these animals unfortunately lost the good owner lottery. If AC or the sheriff won't do anything, maybe it's time you and hubby found a better situation for yourselves and your animals, especially considering the neighbors' potentially dangerous dog pack. |
Well it doesnt affect my horse or our living situation. We rent a beautiful home from them. Along with a stall and full use of their pastures. I love my home, and i love having my horse at home. Their dogs dont dislike horses so its not a black/white situation. It may be something as simple as not caring for their animals and just taking care of mine. I just feel bad that they arent fed or cared for. Theyve never bathed their horse and then they complain that he has no ground manners and they cant believe how well behaved my gelding is. They also cant believe that their non trained horse doesnt ride, he tends to rear or go backwards. lol. Like I said, this was a rant. I do dislike irresponsibility but like you all have pointed out, its not my fight. I dont know if the sheriffs office or animal control has ever been called on the farm animals- simply because we're not visible from the road. I can easily solve this problem by taking the horses into their stalls at night. I was feeding, and taking them in every ngiht and in turn the neighbors would walk them to the pasture every morning. When spring hit, i was told its too hot to walk from the barn to their pasture. So then we started feeding in the pasture, but i separate them knowing that neither can eat eachothers food. I dont care if they share hay. But now it seems like ill just have to tell them to take the horses out in the morning. It will resolve most problems. And for riding, i'll move my 70 lb mounting block and jsut ride around the house if i have to. I'd never do anything to cause inury to an animal |
I would feel obligated to save these animals out of guilt too. If I saw an animal caught in a fence I definitely would atleast try to save it whether it was mine or not. But as for the extra help that they don't seem to appreciate, I don't know what to say :-/. In some eyes this is neglectful but in some parts this is typical. Everyone has their own idea of standards. To them, just having grass and water might be enough to care for their horse. It is frustrating to see this since many of us spoil our horses as much as we can. I can understand why you'd want to be a hero to all these animals to make up for the attention or better care that they deserve. You'll just have to detach yourself and accept that you can't change how they care for their pets. You're probably the best thing that has happend for these animals but don't work yourself up over it or feel sorry for them. As long as they have the basics they'll be fine. Doing a little kindness here and there (without taking full responsibility) will be a greatly appreciated by the animals. |
have you talked with them about your concerns? |
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