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Former Giants Teammates Have War of Words on Twitter
March 15, 2012
March Madness is officially underway with the constant "upset alerts" and over analysis shouted at us. Hey bracket guy, because every office has one don't they, how's your bracket looking. Some of you are feeling pretty good about yourselves because so far you have the perfect bracket but most of you have brackets that are garbage because that team you had going to the Final Four got beat earlier Oops! Always next year.
The only thing worse than bracket guy is gambling bracket guy, the guy in Las Vegas laying down action on some team he never knew existed. The same guy who bets on high school and the little league world series you know the degenerates. Wow you know you're a bad guy if you're betting money on children's sports but if it's sanctioned then you can rest assured there's money on it.
With all that's going on in college basketball if I am talking about two former NY Giants getting into a verbal fight on "Twitter" then you know something incredible was said.
It all started when reports were surfacing about Jeremy Shockey wanting to return to the NY Giants next season. Amani Toomer reacted to the report about Shockey when he tweeted, "No!! Shockey I will never play4you again! he yelled at jerry Reese in 08. Let him keep his word. Bad teammate. Worse person."
Shockey responded to that tweeting, "Amani Toomer on Jeremy Shocker: Bad teammate, Haha. Well he was the lazy one that broke my leg!!"
Toomer rolled into the back of Shockey's leg during a 2007 game against the Washington Redskins. Shockey wasn't done, he then tweeted, "Yes, remember when his ex divorced him and he urinated on her clothes I guess he's the good person. Go get a bucket of rocks and start throwing them at your glass house."
Shockey then turned his attention to the NY media saying he never mentioned returning to the Giants. "It's funny how the Ny media still try's to make money off me! Can anyone find a quote from me on me wanting to play for the GAINTS?" Shockey tweeted.
Well these guys couldn't have majored in english with the hatchet job they both have done. Now I know "Twitter" only allows 140 characters per tweet but come on fellas, mix in a spell check. If Shockey is correct and he never mentioned a return to the Giants then I totally get his anger.
Although Toomer didn't tweet much he called Shockey a "bad teammate" and a "worse person" in public. Then Shockey gets personal with it bringing up dude's ex-wife and what he did to her clothing...allegedly. Ok so who won the argument? Shockey or Toomer? I know who lost, the english language.


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tneil wrote:Our system requirements are for XP, Vista or Windows 7.
That link mentions that Visual Studio 2008 standard edition is a requirement. I'm using Visual Studio professional edition (Version 9.0.21022.8 RTM). Could that be a problem?
06-15-2010 05:45 PM - edited 06-15-2010 05:50 PM
This is probably stupid and completely irrelevant, but one of the BB Bold simulators I test with frequently wouldn't draw itself completely when I set View > Graphics Acceleration > Max Quality in the simulator. Other acceleration settings were fine. Also certain apps (Trillian Astra for one) interfere with simulator drawing that i've noticed. Your issue most likely doesn't have anything to do with the simulator just not drawing correctly though.
Unfortunately, this probably only helps by reaffirming that the simulators are a little buggy.
Visual Studio 2008 Standard edition is the minimum 2008 version we support. We test on Professional Edition as well. We state Standard edition because Express will not allow for plug-ins.
I always recommend setting the Graphics acceleration in the simulator off in the "View -> Graphics Acceleration". This has had issues with different graphics cards and I would only recommend to turn it on if you are testing OpenGL code.
tneil wrote:
I always recommend setting the Graphics acceleration in the simulator off in the "View -> Graphics Acceleration". This has had issues with different graphics cards and I would only recommend to turn it on if you are testing OpenGL code.
I had already set the graphics acceleration to low, but I turned it off and it worked fine! Thanks for all your help Tim!
06-16-2010 09:32 AM - edited 06-16-2010 09:33 AM
I'm glad to hear that...
So did that solve all your problems with the simulator starting up?
If it solved the problem please do be sure to mark the appropriate post as the accepted solution
Tim, thanks for helping.
My refresh problem has gone after I switch the graphical acceleration off. !!!
Though the main problem still remains - the simulator does not start from the debugger.
VS just waits until I kill the debug session. Interesting that once I killed the debug session the simulator starts up; obviously it would not show the page I need to debug. Another thing - the Visual Studio is unresponsive until I close the simulator.
Sometimes (just after killing the debug session) an error dialog pops up saying "fledgehook.exe stopped working" and following problem details:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: fledgehook.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4ba28ea5
Fault Module Name: fledgehook.exe
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4ba28ea5
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000011d9
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.272.7
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
May be this info can help investigating the problem if you decide to look at it.
Guys, whoever has similar problems with debugging through the BB simulator on non supported platforms (like my Windows Server 2008 R2) and is really desperate to have up and running, I recommend an ugly but working solution - Install a "supported" platform like Windows 7 on a virtual machine (under WMware player - free) and develop your code there.
Once I installed WMware, Win 7, Visual Studio 2008, Web plug-in and copied my code over to the virtual machine, I finally got my simulator starting up from the debugger. It's up and running and I can debug my mobile web app.
Tim, thanks for your support.
Would be nice though if you guys decided to look at the simulator issues on the Windows Server 2008 R2 ...
How did you install on windows server 2008.

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About Freestyle
In 1978 the era of Disco dancing was truly born in the UK when Saturday night Fever hit the screens. Dance classes specialising in Travolta's "Night Fever" routines quickly became popular in all areas of the UK and gradually teachers had to carry on where the film left off. The term Freestyle has largely replaced Disco over recent years. Disco related to the type of steps and movements that can be performed in a Discotheque; they are simple and require little space. Freestyle has evolved to include more travelling steps such as runs and spins, which require more space. Competitive dancers, particularly in the higher grades, now use the floor to its best advantage; movement and projection being an integral part of their performance. The three "basic ingredients" of Freestyle Dance relating to solo work are runs, spins and kicks. Almost all dancers in intermediate grades and above will perform these steps as part of their routine in one form or another. Beginners will generally use less progressive types of movements but will normally have some running steps in their routines. Kicks are often introduced at starter level and spins developed for intermediate and above. The basic steps and movements include different types of walks and runs, a variety of turns and spins, kicks and flicks, jumps and leaps and also balletic type movements. The development of a top class Freestyle dancer requires the understanding of several basic principals in order to create good style and technique: good timing, projection, presentation and personality are all key.
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Beginners: May only wear item of a plain coloured basic design usually in lycra fabric either in 1 piece or 2 piece, each item must be 1 single colour without added decoration of any type, i.e. any cut out, lattice work, belts, anklets, slits or slashes, or leg warmers. Commercial sports wear is not allowed. Matching hair ties, scrunchies that meet the criteria are allowed.
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On conservative morning show "Fox & Friends" yesterday, British journalist and Fox News show host Stuart Varney claimed "Downton Abbey" "poses a threat to the left" because of its positive portrayal of the wealthy. "Rich people are prominently featured, they're generous, they're nice people — they create jobs, for heaven's sake. They're classy, they've got style and we love them."
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READ MORE: The Perverse Pleasures of 'Downton Abbey,' Where Progress Is The Enemy
Varney's not entirely off base in his read of the show — Julian Fellowes is a Conservative member of the House of Lords, and his show offers, as we wrote yesterday, a deeply romanticized view of the way the upper and lower classes coexist in its titular estate, if one in which that stye of living is always in danger of slipping away. But Varney's claim that a depiction of the wealthy as anything other than evil is inconceivable to the left proved over-the-top enough that even his co-host Gretchen Carlson was moved to suggest that maybe the show's popularity owes more to the fact that "people are just sick and tired of stupidity on reality TV" and want to watch something smarter. Not addressed by Varney is the fact that those U.S. audiences are watching "Downton Abbey" courtesy of non-profit public broadcasting, or that shows about fabulous rich people make up a good chunk of current small screen programming. [via Mediaite]


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Sam Waddington is a serious world traveller and is very passionate about the outdoors.
For a young 23-year-old, Waddington has travelled to more places than most people three times his age. When he was seven years old, his family went on a three-year sailing trip down the west coast of North America and into Mexico, then across the Pacific Ocean to the South Pacific islands. He's been to 33 countries and has travelled throughout southeast Asia, French Polynesia, west Africa, the Middle East, Europe, New Zealand, and Central America.
Yet he always comes back home to Chilliwack.
"I didn't have any foregone conclusions of what I wanted. Every time I came back to Chilliwack, I started to see it differently and with fresh eyes," says Waddington.
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Moral Clarity
A Guide for Grownup Idealists
Susan Neiman
Harcourt, May 2008
Part One: Ideal and Real
1) American Dreams
2) Ideas and Ideologies
3) Facing Gallows
Part Two: Enlightenment Values
4) Myths or Monsters
5) Heaven and Earth
6) Happiness
7) Reason
8) Reverence
9) Hope
Part Three: Good and Evil
10) The Odyssey: An Excursion
11) What about Evil?
12) Enlightenment Heroes
13) Moral Clarity
Sodom and Gomorrah are places good as any to reflect about goodness and evil, but the reasons may surprise you. They usually stand for simple cases of crime and punishment: the Sodomites sin and God destroys them, turning a thriving town into a pile of rubble and a woman into a pillar of salt for a wistful backward glance. For fundamentalists, the sin is sexual license in general, homosexuality in particular, making both into abominations that threaten community existence. For gay people, the towns destruction is an example of the injustice of traditional religion. For the Marquis de Sade, the story was an invitation to imagine a world in which violent sex and destruction fuse into explosive rage. Sade knew the Bible better than most contemporary readers.
For the story may be clear, but its marvelously complex. To begin with, you neednt be a fundamentalist to abhor the sin that does in the Sodomites: it isnt fornication or homosexuality, but the local demand to drag out and gang-rape two strangers whom the good-hearted Lot had offered to shelter. Ancient Mediterranean convictions about what hosts and guests owe each other formed the basis of traditional morality, and violations threatened social bonds at their core. The Greeks thought such violations reason enough to start the Trojan War. Lot takes his duties as host so seriously that he offers the raging mob his virgin daughters if theyll leave his guests alone. The guests turn out to be angels, who blind the Sodomites storming the door and prove their undoing. But whether or not you believe in angels or ancient rules of hospitality, youre likely to find the Sodomites transgressions beyond every pale.
Some versions expand upon the account in Genesis, as if gang-raping your guests were not quite enough to merit annihilation: they suggest that the Sodomites were not simply immoral, but deliberately anti-moral. According to one Jewish tale, gang rape of strangers wasnt an accidental occurence, but prescribed by Sodoms laws. According to another, helping strangers was punishable by death - a fate suffered by one of Lots daughters, who was burned on a pyre for giving bread to a poor man, and another nameless maiden who was smeared with honey and left on a bee-swarmed rooftop for doing the same. Even its taxes were perversely regressive: owners of two oxen were liable for one day's community service, while those with one ox were assessed for two. Sodoms crimes were all the worse for being thankless, for the city was showered with wealth. Gardeners rinsing greens in its water could shake down gold flakes from the soil that clung to their roots, sapphires lined its streets in place of stones, and each of its paths was shaded by seven trees - grape, fig, pomegranate, walnut, almond, apple and peach. Yet blessed with such abundance, the Sodomites only dread that they might have to share it. One source says Sodom killed all its birds lest they take even a peck at the grain. Where kindness to strangers forms the framework of civilization, what the Sodomites do is a double outrage. Many places ignore moral law; Sodom turns it upside down.
The most important part of the story, however, is what happens before the cities' destruction. Having called Abraham into His confidence and promised to make him mighty, God reveals His plan to destroy the cities. Abrahams reaction is awesome. Until then, he received God's word without question; now he pauses, and speaks up. What if there are fifty innocent people among the sinners? The judge of all the earth cannot be so unjust as to let innocent and guilty suffer alike! - The judge of all the earth agrees; if there are fifty righteous people in Sodom He will leave the city alone. But surely the Lord is not a pedant. What if the number turns out to be smaller? Would He destroy the whole city for lack of a mere five? - The answer is readily forthcoming; the Lord will save Sodom if forty-five righteous people can be found there. But the Lord cannot be arbitrary! What if there are only forty good people in the city? Abraham bargains God all the way down to ten, and the number isnt an accident. Its easy enough for a handful to flee a burning city, which is just what turns out to happen. Though Lot tries to warn them, even some of his family refuse to listen, so he gathers the others and runs.
Three things about Abrahams action stir hearts like mine. One is his resolute universalism. Abrahams concern for the innocents of Sodom is not concern for his friends or his neighbors, its concern for innocents everywhere. The people of Sodom are abstract and nameless and still worth the risk of his life. Another is his resoluteness, period. In his concern for innocent life he endangers his own. This is not, after all, a democracy, but a world in which kings are ill inclined to let subjects rebuke them. Abraham dares to remind the King of Kings that He's about to trespass on moral law. The text makes plain that Abraham is scared. His words are neither proud nor wheedling, but the plea of a servant to a master who could extinguish him with a glance. "Here I venture to speak to my Lord, I who am but dust and ashes" is what he says to get the negotiation going. "Let not the Lord be angry if I go on" is what precedes the line that bargains God down to thirty. The third striking point to this story is its attention to detail. Moral judgment is not a matter of decisions made once and for all, but of keeping your eye on distinctions. Numbers matter. Gradations matter. Abrahams tone may be that of a merchant, but his mind is the mind of a moralist. If he can make God stop and think about small differences, none of us is ever exempt. Moral judgments are slow, specific, and seldom absolute. Yet two things in the Biblical story emerge perfectly clear: rape is a criminal action - and so is collateral damage.
We have moral needs, needs so strong they can override our instincts for self-protection, as the story of Abraham shows. It also shows those needs are not based in religion, or any form of divine command. They include the need to express reverence and the need to express outrage, the need to reject euphemism and cant and call things by their proper names. They include the need to see our own lives as stories with meaning - meanings we impose on the world, a crucial source of human dignity - without which we hold our lives to be worthless. Most basically and surprisingly, we need to see the world in moral terms. These needs are grounded in a structure of reason. While they may be furthered by religion, or emotion, that is not what keep them alive. As I will argue, they are based in the principle of sufficient reason we use as a compass. Moral inquiry and political activism start where reason is missing. When righteous people suffer, and wicked people flourish, we begin to ask why. Demands for moral clarity ring long loud bells because it is something we are right to seek. Those who cannot find it are likely to settle for the far more dangerous simplicity, or purity, instead.
This book began in response to needs expressed by readers of my last book, Evil in Modern Thought. Conceived as a history of philosophy, it stirred readers far beyond academia who were hungry for serious discussion of ethics and value. Many more people than I'd ever expected said it was the sort of thing they'd always hoped from philosophy, and asked me to go one step further. I had reinterpreted the history of modern western philosophy to show that its major thinkers were driven not by epistemological puzzles, but by the search for the meaning of evil and suffering as seen in the events of their day. Was I prepared - readers asked - to give an account of my own views in relation to contemporary events?
I was not. The task was daunting, and it seemed presumptuous even to try. Perhaps nothing but the 2004 U.S. election would have persuaded me to do so. Like many who were dismayed on that third of November, I was stunned by the claim that voters chose George W. Bush because they cared about moral values. Either they had been bamboozled, or the left had dramatically failed. The election was probably a result of both, but that's now for historians to settle. The most useful thing I could do as an American philosopher was to examine philosophical consequences of contemporary political discourse, and offer a framework for alternatives.
For it isn't enough to argue that if Republicans have captured the field of individual virtues, Democrats still corner the market on social ones; or to point out that many people go to church not in search of spiritual solace, but to get simple services now missing elsewhere. In Conservatives Without Conscience, Nixon's former legal counsel John Dean even argued that the culture wars were constructed to give the right a platform as its traditional target collapsed with the Cold War. All these claims may be true, but they overlook a gnawing gap. Western secular culture has no clear place for moral language, and its use makes many profoundly uncomfortable.
The 2004 election made some things crystal clear. All over the world, people argued about what caused its outcome, but this much was certain: everyone, everywhere was running on moral passion. Whether voters were moved by their views about terrorism or the war in Iraq or abortion, what did not decide the most significant election in decades was the bottom line. Bush supporters were likelier to be those his economic policies had hurt, while many of his fiercest opponents stood a chance of benefiting from his tax cuts. Cynics, and old-fashioned Marxists, must return to the drawing board. Erst kommt das Fressen, dann kommt die Moral - Bertolt Brecht's famous claim that grub comes first, and ethics later - turns out to be just a matter of chronology. As soon as our bellies stop rumbling, we begin to moralize.
Of all the forces that contributed to the rightward turn in American culture, none is more surprising than the philosophical exertions behind contemporary conservativism. In the sixties, conservatives used the very word intellectual as a term of abuse - remember Spiro Agnew? But when the left stopped reading Critical Theory and turned their sights on matters more pragmatic, the right went off to build think tanks. Under the influence of thinkers like the political theorist Leo Strauss and novelists like Ayn Rand, young conservatives were reading Plato and Aristotle. Through organizations like the Liberty Fund and the Olin Foundation, Midwest businessmen who made their fortunes producing chemicals and telephones were sponsoring seminars in the mountains of Hungary on the nature of evil, or flying scholars to Chicago to discuss law and virtue. Meanwhile, in the interest of being effective, the left decided to forsake utopian visions for the solider ground of interest-based politics. It was a fatal mistake, for it meant jettisoning the moral compass that had guided the best efforts of the sixties - the Civil Rights movement, the opposition to the war in Vietnam, the early demands for womens equality. While many leftwing activists were taken up with identity politics, many leftwing academics were caught up in arguments about postcolonial concepts. The arguments that not only right and justice, but the self and the world are constructed by interest and power, were too abstruse to bother many people outside the academy, but they took up no end of energy of those within.
As the right was completing its study of the classics, the left was facing conceptual collapse. The end of the cold war gave the East access to goods its citizens wanted, and the West information it did not: that the dreams of socialism had transmuted into nightmare. The crisis that was growing through the seventies as the new left failed to produce a better revolution than the old left came to a head with the revelations of how awful the old one had really been. The end of the Soviet Union revealed an empire that only the most stubborn could deny had been just what Ronald Reagan called it. What else could the arbitrary, cold-blooded murder of millions of men and women be if not evil? Even those inclined to cling to the old saw - you cant make an omelet without breaking eggs - had to acknowledge that the results were revolting. From Beijing to Berlin, millions of people who had lived under a system subscribing to principles meant to liberate them were rejecting decades of slavery.
Arbitrary imprisonment, famine and murder were not new, though the scale seen in the twentieth century was. What was devastating about Soviet crimes was the fact that they were committed in the name of principles most of us hold dear. The rebuttal to this is easy enough: theoretically speaking, Stalins gulags no more undermine the legitimacy of socialist ideals than the Inquisition undermines Christian ones. But after all was said and argued, what was left at the end of the century was less the inclination to discard particular principles than the very idea of acting on principle itself. Stalinist terror killed off its bravest citizens; what survived in the East was a bleak, bitter culture wracked with cynicism and envy. If that was outcome of a struggle for ideals of freedom and justice, wouldnt the world be better off if we sat on our hands?
Those whose business it is to think about morality have been remiss in other ways. Philosophers certainly examine moral concepts, but their language is often inscrutable, cut off from daily concerns. Recent philosophy has produced superb work in ethics, none better than that of John Rawls, who was not only a brilliant theorist, but a man whose personal integrity was legend. He fiercely condemned, for example, American use of atomic weapons, without ever mentioning that as a member of the U.S. infantry slated to invade Japan before Hiroshima, his was probably one American life the bomb saved. Yet his own work remained abstract enough to stand for all the ages, nearly devoid of historical specificity. Though he knew - and cared - an immense amount about the concrete moral cataclysms of the twentieth century, he kept them out of his texts and his classrooms. Years after I had the good fortune to be his student, I ventured to ask why hed never spoken directly about matters like the Holocaust. "Oh," said Rawls, in the warm Southern drawl the Ivy League never dented, "I dont understand them well enough to do that."
This sounds like the stance that Irish poet W.B.Yeats described long ago: The best lack all conviction/While the worst are full of passionate intensity. Now Rawls, like others, had deep convictions about many things, but he was trapped by his own humility. Faced with dauntingly urgent moral problems the everyday world presents, what many honest philosophers feel is not lack of interest but inadequacy. But behind admirable attempts to avoid sanctimony and self-righteousness, there often lurks a fear of expressing moral judgments in particular cases. The non-interference pact that leads philosophers to refrain from talking about history, and historians from talking about morality, pretty neatly insures that few people with professional competence will jump into the fray - except in discussions too qualified to interest anyone but other specialists.
Qualifications reflect scruples, and awareness of how complex moral judgments can be. But complexity can paralyze. Your scruples are misunderstandings, wrote Ludwig Wittgenstein. What arose in humility and moral refinement led to attitudes that make moral judgments themselves look misguided - a hypocritical attempt to assert arbitrary power over those with whom you disagree. The relativism that holds all moral values to be created equal is a short step from the nihilism that holds all talk of values to be superfluous. Truly equal values cancel each other out. And the vistas thereby opened are so bleak that many shut the door on moral reflection altogether, and turn to the simplest moral messages in their neighborhood. William Bennett, and even Bill OReilly, reach millions of readers desperate for some talk of value, for nobody else is making an offer. Not the positions their books defend, but the fact that questions of goodness and justice and character are being discussed with apparent seriousness, without jargon, sends most readers to these books - and thereafter to the polls. Not everyone in Kansas may be reading Plato, but lots of them are reading writers who have, and are not ashamed to embrace ideas that sound like his.
Words like realistic and idealistic are thrown around so glibly in current political discussions that philosophers are likelier to wince and groan than to take them seriously. But the fact that a use is careless doesn't make it insignificant. The casual use of ideas with which philosophers have wrestled for millenia affects our political landscape. Examining them is not a question of political philosophy but of a metaphysics strong enough to support a moral standpoint - in particular the fact that we act, and want to see ourselves as acting, on moral grounds. Is morality driven by faith? Many people, religious and secular, assume that it is. The belief is so common that Abraham's stand at Sodom attracts relatively little attention. His plea for the unknown Sodomites is far less familiar than his silence before the Lord's command to kill his own son. The binding of Isaac sustains orthodoxies of every kind. When a voice calls you to take your son, your only son whom you love, and journey to a distant height which will be indicated later, you saddle up your ass and do it, secure in the faith that the Lord will solve whatever problems arise on the way. For Christians, Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son foreshadows God's willingness to sacrifice His. For Muslims, that willingness is so fundamental that Ishmael, the forebear of Islam, rather than Isaac, is portrayed as the intended victim. Medieval Jews facing murderous crusaders took courage from the story, and slaughtered themselves and their children to outwit them. However long Jewish, Christian and Muslim theologians struggle to find multiple meanings in the text, the dominant one is this: Abrahams unquestioning readiness to heed Gods command to sacrifice the thing he loves most is the act that qualifies him to father what are still called the Abrahamic faiths.
Pagans practiced human sacrifice from Mesopotamia to Mexico, and as Greek tragedy reminds us, even slaughtering one's child wasn't out of the question. For the ancient world, the most striking part of the story was God's commandment to stop the sacrifice. For our purposes, what's important is that the command comes from on high. The same man who just challenged God to spare the lives of innocent strangers waits quietly for an order to save his own son. This makes the story central for most of tradition. For orthodox religious thinkers, faith is authoritarian. As some Christians put it, real faith is willing to crucify the intellect, to believe in a view just because its absurd. For such believers the Abraham of Mt. Moriah is an icon. If he trusted in his heavenly father on a matter of such moment, the rest of us should be able to take lesser leaps of faith. Now I have no qualms about being partisan. The Abraham who risked Gods wrath to argue for the lives of unknown innocents is the kind of man who would face down injustice anywhere. He is deeply human in the best of all senses, afraid and imperfect, but neither his fear nor his frailty stand in the way of his own reason. He is reverent but not deferential, for his faith is based on his moral backbone, not the other way around. He is, in short, what Ill call an Enlightenment hero. As Kierkegaard taught us, the Abraham who takes his son to Mt. Moriah has left ethics and enlightenment behind. Kants comment on that passage was unequivocal: Abraham should have reflected, and concluded that anyone who asked him to do that could not be God. You can tell which side hes on. Still Id be cheating if I tried to argue that the Abraham at Sodom and Gomorrah is the most genuine one. The Old Testament itself is magnificently equivocal. And though religious thinkers will fight fiercely to show their standpoint to be the one religion really sanctions, each religion has signposts pointing both ways. One insists on faith as submission, underscoring the need to obey laws whose reasons we need not understand. Fundamentalists like to claim that the moral code that flows from their faith needs no intellect to follow. What the Lord wants you to do is easy to read in the Good Book. But while they may preach that the word of God is transparent, fundamentalists need interpretation as much as anyone else. Their interpretations focus on passages and practices that emphasize obedience and external authority - whether the authority of the Lord Himself, or that of His deputies in the clergy. Common study of the Bible or the Koran is often part of fundamentalist culture, but the zeal there is for individual witness, not individual analysis. In the end, fundamentalist authorities deny that unadorned human reason can decide questions of right or justice or truth.
But instructions are rarely self-evident, and holy books are written in codes that must be deciphered like any others. This is not a matter of applying ancient principles that once were obvious to modern situations that are not. No law applies itself, ever. Much of ancient scholarship itself began in the need to work out which moral judgments followed from which moral claims. Thus each of the three Western religious traditions has a rationalist strain, opposed to a fundamentalist one, stretching back to the ancient religious academies where the modern notion of scholarship was shaped. The dialectical thinking practiced in the yeshivot of Babylon and Jerusalem after the Temples destruction was the basis for the Talmud, but it influenced legal reasoning in every tradition. The fine distinctions teased out under the gothic vaults of the Sorbonne were attempts to work out Church doctrines of salvation; they affected not only our concepts of essence and accident, but of philosophical thinking to the present day. The Koranic studies still practiced in the filigreed halls of madrasas in Cairo recall the early medieval times when the Moors brought science to southern Europe. All these houses of learning arose in devotion, from those engaged in the task of making daily sense of what followed from the texts they held sacred.
Far from viewing our capacity to reason as threatening our capacity to obey God, this tradition sees thinking as its very fulfillment. (Some Jewish parables show God laughing with pleasure when His children defeat Him with a particularly good argument.) If reason is Gods gift, He meant us to use it, and on this tradition our ability to make sense of the world is just one more proof of Gods goodness, and hence of His glory. Remembering these facts should stop us from dividing the world along religious and secular lines. For many rationalist religious thinkers have more in common with secular Social Democrats than with fellow believers; many a fideist is closer to postmodern nihilism than he knows. Far less important than your belief that God exists, or that He doesnt, is what you think your belief entails. Does it direct your behavior by rules and commandments that are set out before you, or does it require you to think them through yourself? Does it require you to try to make sense of the world, or does it give up on sense itself?
The difference between the two moral paradigms is far more important than whether you call yourself religious or secular. Those paradigms could be described in dryer terms, without mentioning Abraham, or God, at all. But the greatness of the Bible - even if youre not sure what it means to call it divine - is that it sets out the choices so starkly that nothing has come close to being as clear since. So lets call the first paradigm that of Abraham at Sodom, who refuses to rest in the humility of resignation and demands that his world make sense. Those who subscribe to this paradigm hold fast to the principle that there must be reasons for everything that happens, and that those reasons are up to us to find. This is the fundamental law to which everyone, including God, must answer, and it leads us to seek not only justice but transparent justice. The second paradigm is that of Abraham at Mt. Moriah, who doesnt ask anything at all. To do so, he thinks, would be an act of superstition, even violence. Does trust mean asking no questions? Does love mean never having to say youre sorry? This man of faith is certain: the demand to find reason after reason is at odds with a grateful acceptance of Creation, and arrogant to boot.
The two Abraham stories are pages apart in the Bible, and worlds apart in their message. One urges us to submit to Gods orders; however outrageous they appear to be theyll lead us right in the end. The other urges us to question, for even a message that comes in Gods voice may need to be reconsidered. (Those who insist that God is never wrong argue that He was just testing Abrahams compassion at Sodom. On this reading the pupil is not God, of course, but Abraham, who passed the test with flying colors. But whoever is the teacher, the idea that ethics must be learned through reflection remains the central point.) Both stories are deeply part of our repertoire, anchored firmly in the very first book of the Bible on which so many others depend. More than one contemporary Jewish theologian has claimed that the two Abrahams are compatible parts of a single soul, but their arguments show that even those who believe in Biblical authority wont find it decisive here. They have to decide how the book should be read.
Any serious reading of it will raise the question: are things good because God loves them, or does God love them because theyre good? As readers of Plato will remember, this question isn't confined to monotheism. Socrates was executed for alleged impiety. His crime wasnt atheism - he really did worship the local gods - but insisting that reason be put before them. Goodness isnt arbitrary. Things must be good in themselves, which is what makes the gods love them; the gods choice cannot make something good that is evil just because they are gods.
For fundamentalists this sort of view is not just an expression of pride. It's the first step down a path in which God Himself, if subject to any limits, including the limits of reason, is no longer really God. Its an interesting argument, but I dont want to get stuck in theological debates, since I dont think they are really responsible for the tenacity of the assumption that we need religion to maintain ethics. Its the assumption behind the old adage If God didnt exist we would have to invent Him, and many believers and unbelievers still think that its true. Traditional religion paints a nightmare of anarchy and violence that erupts whenever divine authority is missing, and there are people who claim that they would up and kill their neighbors without religious prohibitions on murder.
We know they do not. Virtuous atheists have been around, and been noticed, for centuries, but most of them now suspect the language of virtue. Though they don't accept the idea that moral values are empty without religious ones, they accept no alternative framework. Worse than that: they've seen too many frameworks abused. Rules conceived as universal values have too often been used as sugar coated ways of forcing one people's will on another. As a result, the rebuke dont be judgmental is now firmly embedded in American slang. Though it began in good conscience - to express the discovery that many of our judgments were based on assumptions the whole world does not share - it has ended by stifling conscience altogether. The resolve not to impose your moral world-view by force often ends with the resolve to make no judgments at all. For those who live without divine sanctions, judgments of good, and especially evil, are off-limits.
Both Abraham and Socrates offer another perspective. Whether the tradition is monotheist or pagan, it has central sources for denying that we need religious authority to maintain morality. The Abraham of Sodom and Gomorrah certainly didnt; it was he who risked his life to give God lessons in ethics - and this story comes at the start of monotheistic tradition. Any ethics that needs religion is bad ethics; any religion that tries to play on this is bad religion. Of course there are plenty of both around, a practical question that must be dealt with practically. But first we must see that neither genuine religious nor genuine moral impulses are ever expressed in standpoints that tie the two essentially together.
Those who view religion as necessary for morality reduce us to the moral level of four year olds. If you follow these comandments youll go to heaven, and if you dont youll burn in hell is just a spectacular version of the carrots and sticks with which we raise our children: if you clean up your room youll get the cookie, and if you dont youll stay inside. Those of us who have raised them, however, know that even if we rely on bribes and threats in the short term, the moral behavior we seek to instill requires us to get beyond them. We want to prepare our kids to be responsible and generous and straightforward even when rewards are not forthcoming, as they often are not in the parts of the world we dont control. Serious believers, on the other hand, despise the sort of faith that springs up in foxholes. The religious feeling they cherish is not about a Being who can be bribed. Ill do whatever you say if only youll save me. They hold this attitude to be no better than that of a pagan who thinks the gods will protect him if only he serves up a particularly tasty bit of entrail. True faith, they think, is not a matter of bargaining but of gratitude - certainly for Creation, and possibly for salvation as well.
If you acknowledge that serious religion and serious ethics are thus separate matters, you must believe things are good or evil independent of divine authority. At this point in the argument many people turn to self-interest. Moderation, argued the former Greek slave Epicurus, is a virtue because gluttony and drunkenness are bad for your health. Enlightened self-interest, therefore, is all you need to be temperate. Keeping promises, said the Prussian philosopher Kant, is an expression of honesty, but it also builds strong communities. Or would you choose to live in a world where you could not take people at their word? Today evolutionary biologists argue that altruism has adaptive advantage; generous behavior will be selected because it increases the species chances to survive. Richard Dawkins argues that you neednt focus on the survival of the fittest species; altruistic behavior is already rewarded at the level of the gene pool. But he readily concedes that biological self-interest cannot account for the kinds of sacrifice we hold central to moral experience. At such points many secular thinkers retreat to the view that the basis of morality is political, a system of law constructed - more or less nefariously - to maintain civil order.
All such arguments depend on the view that if religion doesnt tell us to be moral something else has to do so; self-interest and order look like the sort of hard-nosed bases to which unsentimental souls can appeal. And it is certainly true that much - perhaps most - moral behavior is to our own and our communities advantage. Honesty is often the best policy, kindness is often reciprocated; even observing traffic rules creates a measure of order and safety that benefits us all. Hence a great many rules that are both ethical and useful have been shared, and internalized, throughout different times and cultures, so that we are socialized - perhaps hard-wired - to do the right thing with astonishing frequency.
Yet sometimes morality and self-interest part company, and when they do such arguments leave us helpless. For though they seemed sober and scientific, they implicitly rely on a notion of pre-established harmony that is both ancient and suspect. What a marvelous system that keeps our needs and the world so finely calibrated that self-interest and morality run on parallel tracks! Bishop Butler, the eighteenth-century founder of natural theology in England, didnt know from gene pools, but he considered it self-evident that it is in our constitution to condemn falsehood, violence, and injustice. In his day it was called Providence: the assumption that virtue and happiness are perfectly balanced by an invisible guiding hand. Even Job knew enough to question that.
If morality is settled neither by the claims of religion nor the claims of self-interest, must we believe theres an otherworldly standard of goodness, fixed and eternal in a transcendent world? Plato seemed to think so, and his metaphysics provided centuries of fuel for postmodernist fires. (Not all postmodernist claims are recent) What was attacked was more fairytale than Plato's own views; it's unlikely that he pictured ideas as ghostly objects in the heavens beaming down at the shadows below. Still he did believe that things are good, or true, or beautiful because they participate in ideas far above and beyond them. What all these views have in common is the thought that morality must be commanded - if not by God then by nature, if not by nature then by a supernatural metaphysics with the features of both. This will pose problems for anyone who rejects a particular source of commandment. Perhaps even more important: what about those who believe that being moral is not a matter of following orders, whether natural or supernatural, but about the dignity of freely choosing to do right?
With consequences too unhappy to be ironic, most of the voices willing to speak in universal moral terms at all now come from the right. And this is what's true in the claim that the left has trouble with values, a claim that can, understandably, make its targets blood boil. Whats at issue here is not private goodness: corrupt and decent and generous people can be found on any political scale. As revelations of corruption underscore that those who preach about moral values may be furthest from practicing them, some people are tempted to dismiss talk of value altogether. Understandably enough, given the mind-boggling corruption of the Bush administration, or the way its discussion of moral values has been restricted to matters like who gets married rather than who gets tortured. But to dismiss the right wing's appeal to value as phony is to forget what it offers. However shabbily its partisans t may behave in private, they offer a public conception of goodness the left no longer knows how to defend. Right wing talk of moral clarity and honor and heroism is sometimes empty, but that is not the same as being meaningless. Empty concepts remain concepts, in search of an application. The left, by contrast, has deflated the concepts themselves, and put nothing but irony in their place. What the left lacks isnt values, but a standpoint from which all those values make sense. Several decades of conservative work in those directions have made possible the situation the American political theorist Michael Walzer described so well: "No one on the left has succeeded in telling a story that brings together the different values to which we are committed and connects them to some general picture of what the modern world is like and what our country should be like. The right, by contrast, has a general picture."
They also lack something that may be even more important than what they have. The right lacks embarassment. They may abuse words like evil and hero, but they arent ashamed to take them in their mouths. Wary of simplification, and even more afraid of sounding corny, the left tends to reject not only words like true and noble, but even words like legitimate and progress that were meant to replace them. If used at all, such words are subject to quotation marks - sometimes called scare-quotes - that express the speakers discomfort in the ultimate postmodern gesture, fingers wiggling beside ears in a little dance that says: I can use it, but I dont go so far as to mean it, and it all matters so little anyway I can make myself look silly to boot. What matters is putting distance between you and your beliefs.
This book aims to reclaim moral concepts that the left no longer uses with full voice. Reclaiming them from the right isnt a matter of packaging but of the conviction that without them we will lose our souls - whatever we take our souls to be. We will also lose our footing, and our young. The language of the left has been called the language of suspicion, but its also one of disappointment, the determination not to get fooled again, having seen through cant before. Such language will never win hearts, nor very good minds either
. Re: very good minds. The sources I use to assemble the framework that's needed are resolutely eclectic, and often old. If the following pages turn from Genesis to Plato, from The Critique of Pure Reason to modern songwriters, its because we need all the help we can get. (Undoubtedly we in the West need help from non-Western sources as well, and my scant use of them is just the result of my own scant knowledge.) It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: the authors I cite deserve, and have elsewhere been given, a more exhaustive discussion than will be offered here. My goal is not to provide definitive readings or criticisms of any one of them, but to draw on the voices of many to construct a view we can use. Turning to great classic texts will reveal unexpected agreement. The voices struggling with each other in the books Ill discuss suggest a universalism of uncertainty in wrestling with similar questions. The same author gave us both Abrahams - perhaps. The same author created Achilles and Odysseus - perhaps. Where dissonant voices grapple with basic decisions, readers are often inclined to solve the problem by positing different authors for different standpoints. There may have been no Homer who wrote both our first novels, the Bibles contradictions may be explained by the sort of committee bickering that produces incoherent texts. Those are matters for scholars to explore. Its just as likely that the greatest authors remained inconclusive, for the questions at issue are not the kind to resolve once and for all.
Looking back at traditional uses of moral concepts is not a search for foundations. I believe most of the interesting things philosophy can say about that search were already said by Immanuel Kant, who argued that the validity of our concepts cannot possibly be proved from outside experience, since they shape the possibility of experience itself. Not even this much can be said of moral concepts, since Kant held they were not about truth at all: truth tells us how the world is; morality tells us how it ought to be. Those who were dissatisfied with his answer spawned a small but tenacious industry devoted to proving our concepts are legitimate, the dominant business of twentieth-century philosophy. It may be possible to continue examining the problems with foundationalism or the nature of relativism forever. But for anyone more likely to be moved by Dylan than Descartes, the hour is getting late.
This book will question your sense of the inevitable. It will not offer proposals for changing policies, or specific political platforms, though it will often use contemporary situations to illustrate general claims about good and evil. And though it is critical of political positions in every political tradition, it is certainly committed to some. How best to describe them, when we hear almost daily that traditional political categories are hopelessly obsolete? I like the word progressive, but as I'll argue later, too many people who use it undercut the idea of progress. The very word liberal has become insipid; what is characterized as slightly-left-of-center in the U.S. is nothing but the commitment to free markets in the rest of the world. After comparing the alternatives I've chosen to keep the word left - where when all's said and done the heart beats, as Viennese writer Jean Amery liked to say. One thing that means was shown by Abraham at Sodom. For all those who take risks by challenging power to seek justice for innocents they do not know, he stands as a model. As law professor Kingman Brewster put it, "The presumption of innocence is not just a legal concept. In common sense terms, it depends on that generosity of spirit which sees the best, not the worst, in every stranger." What else left will mean in the twenty-first century is still to be defined.
I've divided the book into three parts. "Ideal and Real" lays out the broadest philosophical questions that shadow contemporary political debates. I discuss the roots of concepts like idealism and realism, and show that neither the right nor the left has a coherent picture of either. Without a clear picture, we have few resources to understand terrorism or jingoism or most of the major problems that face us. "Enlightenment Virtues" argues that the eighteenth century is the best place to look for those resources. Why turn to the much-maligned Enlightenment? It's no accident that rejections of Enlightenment result in premodern nostalgia or postmodern suspicion; where Enlightenment is at issue, modernity is at stake. A defense of the Enlightenment is a defense of the modern world, along with all its possibilities for self-criticism and transformation. If you think such a defense is a cause long lost, you're invited to look again - at an Enlightenment whose virtues are not just the pale outspent ones of tolerance and fairness, but the unflagging demands for happiness, reason, reverence and hope. "Good and Evil" examines those virtues in action. What kinds of heroes are modern heroes? How do we talk about evil without slinging curses and mud? Learn to make moral judgments without clear instructions? Where does optimism end, and hope begin?
The inevitability of cynicism often looks like the twentieth century legacy, but one goal of philosophy is to enlarge our ideas of what is possible. This is philosophy's practical force, for you will not oppose what you think is absolutely necessary, nor try something you are certain is bound to fail. Totalitarian governments may have been the first to exploit these facts, but democratic ones have been quick to seize on them too. How many elections were won because the media projected a particular victory as inescapable? You may hum the tune on Broadway, but dreaming impossible dreams is the sort of thing you're likely to leave to Don Quixote - who was created as an object of gentle mockery five hundred years ago.
The possibility of principle will take us back to concepts that have been abandoned to the right: good and evil, hero and dignity and nobility. These concepts are part of an ethical vocabulary we need to use if we are to reclaim the ground weve lost. To express the hope that their usefulness can be manifest is not to subscribe to a pragmatist theory of truth, but to refuse to enter that debate. No set of arguments or stories will convince all its readers; ideas are not proofs. Convincing every would-be fanatic is not a reasonable goal. This doesn't mean our choices are blind: we can describe the virtues sustained by each position, the lives led by those who choose one path rather than another. It would be enough to offer a set of ideas we can defend - and pass on to our uncertain children, in ways that could make them proud.
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Hello all, I promised a review of the 2-day school when I got back....here it is. I had the pleasure of meeting I-Won-Today while I was there. Jonathan, it was a pleasure to meet you this week. Hopefully I'll be back soon! Here goes..........
Missy and I flew down to Charlotte on October 1st to attend the 2-day Performance Driving School in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Before reading any further: If you've never attended a driving school before and think you might be interested..... GO FOR IT! Be warned however, it's as much fun as you can have with your clothes on, and it may lead to financial ruin! But who cares right! You only live once. Neither Missy or I had ever attended any formal driving schools. I had a good idea of what to expect from reading reviews on the web. Missy on the other hand was apprehensive, and not so quietly wondered why I had invested money on such a frivolous endeavour. The 2-day course involves a number of exercises designed to teach basic car dynamics and improve driver skill and comfort level. These exercises include running laps on a road course, panic braking, emergency lane change, skidpad and slalom. In addition participants have the opportunity to drive other BMW vehicles for a number of laps on a road course, and drive an X5 on an off road course. Vehicles.......lot's of them. There must be hundereds of BMW's at the school from M cars to Z4's, if BMW makes them they're here (X6's included) Our instructors were all veteran racers with a number of years of driving instructor experience. Our head instructor was Larry Parmale, he was assisted by Jim Clark, Andy and Steve. All of them were excellent, they pushed all of us to expand our limits while at the same time reminding us we didn't have to push more than we felt comfortable with. There were ten people in our class (8 men, 2 women). Most had never attended any formal driving school (2 in the class were autoX'ers). Ages ranged from late 20's to late 50's. If you attend the school alone, you will most likely be paired with another driver (2 to a car). The facility is located 1.5 miles off I-85 and about a mile down the road from BMW's manufacturing facility. In addition to the driving surfaces, the Performance Center has a number of classrooms, a cafeteria, a gift shop, and areas designed for those doing a Performance Center Delivery (PCD). During the course BMW treats you to a free lunch, or as our instructors teased us, a really expensive lunch with a driving school thrown in. Free lunch isn't a big deal but it's a nice touch, as were the free hats they give out at the end of the course (you can't buy them in the store). Classes start at 0830 and end at 1600 with approximately 1 hour each day for lunch. I was worried that the seat time might be less than ideal, but those fears were unfounded. Except for a 40 minute briefing on day one, and occasional 5 minute breaks, you spend the entire time in the car. Day 1: Our day started with a briefing on car dynamics, the theories of oversteer, understeer, and brief introduction to cornering. After a short break we went outside to our assigned cars. Our ride for the course was the #3 car, a Crimson Red 335i Sedan (11/06 production Steptronic with retrofitted oil cooler). For the purposes of this course the step was perfect, as it allowed you to concentrate without having to worry about shifting. For those of you that are curious, the highest oil temp I ever saw was 260 degrees on an 85 degree day. Our ride! The first exercise was a warm-up on a road course with a small slalom section at the beginning. All cars are equipped with a radio, and as you progress through the exercises instructors are constantly offering you feedback on your performance. During this exercise the concepts introduced in the briefing (turn-in point, apex, track-out point) are reinforced and worked on. After a number of laps, you switch places with your partner and they take their turn. If you're concerned about getting carsick as a passenger, you can observe your partner from alongside the track if you prefer. Road Course The second exercise was a panic braking exercise. You take a number of runs at a specified speed, and learn to control the car during emergency braking. Speeds started at 35mph and increased to 45mph at the end of the exercise. These speeds don't sound impressive, but the power of the 335i's brakes are. The stops are quick and violent, and as the speeds increase steering is required. It sounds simple, but one unlucky participant did end up in the dirt earning the nickname "Dusty" for the remainder of the course. As in every exercise, the 2nd driver repeats each manouver when it is their turn. There's quite a bit you can learn by riding in the passenger seat. You're much more aware the finer points when you can sit back and see the big picture as an observer. After a short break we returned to the cars for an emergency lane change exercise (our least favorite). As in the braking exercise, the pace starts slow (30 mph) and increases steadily (45mph). The concept is, as you are driving along someone pulls out in front of you requiring you to change lanes immediately. The space you have to make this lane change is roughly the length of a car and is marked by cones. Suffice to say early attempts by the group resulted in a number of cone "kills." It's unatural to turn the wheel so abruptly (about 150 degrees) left and then back right in short succession. By the end of the exercise you feel much more confident in your ability should the need ever arrise for such a procedure. By this point we were hungry and we were treated to lunch. Emergency Lane Change The second half of the day was spent on the skidpad, and on two friendly competitions. The skidpad exercise is designed to teach recognition and recovery from oversteer and understeer. It also is used as an opportunity to demonstrate the Traction Control and stability Control common to all new BMW's. To facilitate this learning the skidpad is moistened by sprinklers...........nice! This was the exercise I was most looking forward to, and I wasn't disappointed. Round and round you go, progressing from understeer to throttle induced oversteer.....correct and recover. Two cars are on the skidpad at the same time, when one of you invariably ends up pointing in the opposite direction your instructor calls out "we're around" on the radio and the other car pauses briefly. You will spin.......guaranteed! A little known tidbit, when the car is in a forward gear and senses backward motion, it will shutdown. Hmmmmm.........got to like the push button starter. Most of the time you get the car pointed in the right direction and away you go again. One person managed to get their car into the infield, and had to be rescued (pulled out) by an X5. After a number of laps with the DTC off, the instructor turns it back on. It's amazing what a difference it makes........night and day! Not as much fun of course, but impressive how much easier it is to control the car in the slippery conditions. Did I mention how hard this school is on tires! They burn through a set a week, I can't say I'm surprised given how much abuse they take. Skidpad The last two exercises of Day 1 were friendly competitions amongst classmates. The first was called the "Rat Race" and the other is a timed lap followed by a stop in a marked box. The "Rat Race" is performed on a wet oval, and the timed lap is down on a dry road course. Both made use of the lessons learned earlier in the day and were a ton of fun!!! Before we left for the day we spent a few minutes debriefing the days events. We were promised our performance would be better in the morning (it was), and that we would revisit some of the days events, only at a much higher speed! Yikes!!!! We left the Performance Center emotionally and physically drained. We stayed at a Hampton Inn close to the Performance Center, great hotel with lot's of restaurants nearby. The intructors suggested we visit downtown Greenville for dinner, we decided a beer at the Blue Ridge Brewery was called for. Great beer and good food to boot! We left for the hotel, and were asleep within minutes. Who'd a thunk driving could be so tiring. "Rat Race" Day 2: After a short briefing we went straight to the cars. First up were a few warm-up laps on the same course we had driven the previous night. True to their word, our performance was significantly better in the morning. The instructors took this opportunity to build on the skills we had learned the day before. Things they didn't comment on before were now scrutenized much more closely. Slalom Course Our second exercise of the day was another panic braking session. Where we had left off at 45mph on Day 1, we started at 55mph and worked our way up to 75mph. As I mentioned before, the 335i's brakes are really powerful and as the speed increased this was even more evident. Repeated high velocity stops, and zero fade. It also provided the opportunity to view the extra brake light that come on in panic stops (don't usually get to see those). After our necks recovered from the fast acceleration followed by faster deceleration, we headed for the next exercise. Similar to the first emergency lane change session, this one involved two lane changes. It made the first lane change seem simple. Needless to say, the cones in this exercise got abused far more than in the single lane change. That said, our performance would have been abyssmal had we not built our skills the day prior. After being humbled here, we took our lunch break. Breathe....oh yeah! After stuffing our bellies, we split into two groups. One would head to the skidpad for some more intensive one-on-one training, while the other would participate in the "Performance Drive" where you get to sample other BMW's on the road course. I convinced Missy we should choose the test drive first since a shiny new M5 was on the list of cars we's have the opportunity to sample. She agreed and off we went. The group sensed how excited I was to drive the M5, and graciously allowed me to drive it first. The other car were a 550i, an X5, a 335i Coupe, and a 750Li Sedan. My thoughts on these after driving a number of laps in each is as follows: M5 - Amazing machine, monster brakes, great chassis, and oh that V10 sound! The SMG would take a while to get used to however. 550i - Big surprise, quite agile aroungd the course. In fact it was almost as fast around as the M5 on the short track. X5 - Biggest surprise, despite it's big size it's really well balanced and quick o the track. As much BMW as SUV. 335i - Consensus favorite car in the group. Most fun to toss around, even more so than the larger M5. 750Li - Consensus least favorite, described by one as a "Tuna Boat"..... my first thought was Buick. Very comfy though! Discussion after test drive After our test drive we headed out to the skidpad for some more drifting practice.....errr......car control skills. As before, much time was spent sideways and backwards. Since we live in CO, we get a buch of experience in slippery surfaces. It was truly beneficial to have a professional improve our skills in this area. After 20+ laps in each direction, we headed back to the staging area to begin our final exercise: the "Other Roads" experience. Most people think of the X5 as a "soft roader," this course is designed to dispell this notion. Now, whilst I can't personally envision taking my $70K SUV someplace where I might destroy it, it is amazingly capable. The "Other Roads" course consists of a number of obstacles inteded to demonstrate the X5's off road capability. At various spots in the course the vehicle is placed at some pretty extreme angles, driven through 18" of water to simulate river fording, driven on two or three wheels, and generally exercised far more than the average driver will ever experience. As I said I can't imagine doing it myself, but as demonstrated the X5 is certainly capable of some amazing things. "Other Roads" Course With that our course was over. Was it worth it, without a doubt as far as I'm concerned. In fact I plan on sending the kids to the teen school when they're old enough. What did the skeptic think.........based on the smiles, and hootin' and hollerin' I heard from the driver seat OH YEAH!!!!! Skeptic no more! If you're looking for a racing school, this ain't it......you want the M school. The 2-day school is a place to improve your skills in a safe environment, with excellent instructors, and a fleet of vehicles at your disposal. About that M school.............yeah I'm hooked, where do I sign up! Erik and Missy
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It has begun….I spent the day (not feeling so great…those kids and their germs!!!!)shopping for my Thanksgiving menu. There is something very pleasant about that for me. It's a tradition….I really do enjoy the shopping. The stores are packed with other shoppers but somehow waiting in the long lines…being bumped all over the place….rude people who clearly believe they are the only people on earth preparing for a holiday this week….none of it really bothers me.
I think it's because while I so enjoy Thanksgiving…on Friday the real show begins. You see on Friday…while the rest of the folks (here in the United States) is shopping for the those special black Friday deals I spend the day taking down all the Fall decorations that have been up since the end of September. They all get neatly packed away in their labeled boxes with snapping lids. By Friday night all the Christmas decorations are down from the attic and we will have begun to lay them all out. By Saturday we begin the process of decorating this house so heavily it looks like the elves themselves live here. We love every single minute of it. No more mulled cider….we change over to homemade egg nog and hot chocolate with homemade marshmallows. The music played most of the day (as per my Mother-in-law) is Christmas carols from every artist with a Christmas album. Rod Stewart has a new one out…I know that because my Mother-in-law bought it today. The usual fight over Johnny Mathis vs. Nat King Cole will be had…I will declare victory (Nat King Cole is my guy) and I will play Johnny Mathis to show I am a good sport. It's tradition!
Before I can get to any of that….I need to make Thanksgiving dinner….
I had quite a few emails from readers asking if I would post my prep list so here it is….Oh, if you missed the menu for this year you can find it here.
Thanksgiving 2012 ~ Prep list
10am ~ Organize my recipes in order of prep
11am ~ bake the apple caramel pound cake for school (deliver at 1pm)
11am ~ Culture the cream for the butter
11:30am ~ Make the cranberry orange chutney
12:30pm ~ pick up last remaining items on my grocery list (except turkey which is picked up on Wed)
1pm ~ pick up 8 bottles of wine from Total Wine (Sauvignon blanc and Pinot noir)
3:15pm ~ pick up kids
4:30 ~ Make the vanilla bean ice cream
6pm ~ make dinner
9pm ~ polish silver and iron table-cloth and napkins (kids are sleeping so this is much easier)
9:30am ~ pick up Turkey (I ordered mine from Whole Foods as usual)
10am ~ set up cooler filled with ice for the turkey (I have a huge fridge but still never have room for the turkey) The ice is kept in sealed bags so the turkey can sit in the homemade brine we like to make without getting water-logged.
10:30am ~ begin food prep
Make the bread dough for the stuffing
defrost and drain the spinach for the spinach feta puffs
Peel the pearl onions and make the parmesan cream sauce ( seal the sauce in a separate container until Thursday)
cut the carrot, celery and onions for the stuffing
Shred the cheese for the gougeres
Toast and mince the pecans for the gougeres
Make the butter
Trim the brussels sprouts
Peel and slice the potatoes (store in water with a bit of lemon)
Make the filling for the spinach puffs
8pm~ Set the table
7am ~ Bake Pumpkin pie
8:30am ~ Bake the Cranberry Tarts
10am ~ Bake the apple tart
10:45 ~ make the Parker house rolls but don't bake (they will be bakes after the turkey is roasted and resting )
12pm ~ assemble the pearl onions in cream
Assemble the pommes Anna
1pm ~ Roast the turkey
4pm ~ finish side dishes
5:30 ~ Open 4 bottles of wine (2 white 2 red)
~ Finish baking off the hors d' oeuvres
6pm ~ guests arrive ~ Serve hors d' ouvres
6:30pm ~ Turkey now resting
~ Make all the sides hot and bake the rolls
7:15pm ~ Serve dinner
9:30 ~ Serve Dessert and Coffee
Clean up and a good long sleep…..tomorrow Christmas Season begins!!!!!!
I wish you all (those her in the states that is) a wonderful and safe Thanksgiving. I also wish you the patience and sense of humor required if you will spend your day with people who can make you crazy. I no longer have those problems…in a past life….whew! It was rough! Now, I get to spend my day cooking for people I truly enjoy and my evening eating a good meal and drinking good wine with those people. Thanksgiving indeed!


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