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October 27, 2012, 07:48 | #1 |
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Prices of AK's 1987 vs 2012
This morning I came across an old owners manual to a Hungarian SA85M Underfolder that I bought in '87. The original sales receipt was in the book.
I paid $429.00 for it. Looking on an inflation calculator, that amount of money is equal to $875.00 today. Except for the fact these prebans are not available today, I guess the good old days weren't as good as I thought! |
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October 27, 2012, 14:50 | #3 |
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$427.00 in '87 was about a week and a half pay(at least it was for me). I wanted a Valmet as well, but they were almost as expensive as FALS. Polytechs, as much as they're coveted now where concidered garbage back then. I really thought that the prices on AKs these days where outrageous. But after this morning I guess its not as bad as I thought. Some are still way overpriced. Comparing the Arsenal Legion to the SA85M (which was concidered the best of the best back then), I guess Arsenal really isn't that out of line with what their asking.
October 27, 2012, 15:15 | #4 |
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Almost all good old days were never as good as people remember them.
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October 27, 2012, 20:50 | #5 |
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I remember going to gun shows and seeing all those Chinese "junk" guns sitting on dealers tables, if I only knew better!
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October 28, 2012, 16:56 | #6 | |
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I bought my little kids Christmas presents that year with the money.
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October 28, 2012, 17:25 | #7 |
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I too purchased that rifle in 87. You made me look. Nice rifle but I hated the folding stock, and traded it for a Polytech Legend full stock that I still have. (and the owners manual)
October 28, 2012, 19:10 | #8 |
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IIRC, in the early 1980's an Egyptian Maadi AK was $1,100.
There is nothing special to making AK parts or in assembling rifles. If Third World countries can do it, certainly we can do it too. The problem is in guys wanting the absolute cheapest crap parts available and then assembling them with Dremmels and WECSOG (i.e. careless and sloppy) workmanship. Some of the shit work and shortcuts I see see talked about here make me cringe, and when I have spoken up I get piled upon. It has taught me to be very careful when considering buying any used gun, so that is a benefit. Take some pride in your work. And throw away the Dremmel if you won't work within its limitations. |
October 28, 2012, 19:53 | #9 |
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The 'good old days' weren't all that long ago for AKs. I don't really care about Legends and Hungarians,..............pre-ban or otherwise. I think the 'good old days' were when you could lay in Yugo kits for $100 apiece and either fold your own stamped receiver or reweld a torched milled gun for about $20 more. If I had the 'nice' AKs(what a concept!?!), I'd sell them off as quickly as possible and replace them all with 10x as many homebuilds,...............which is exactly what I have done.
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October 28, 2012, 20:11 | #10 |
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I was making $766 per month base pay as an E-3 in 1987
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October 28, 2012, 21:14 | #11 |
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Same here, Gunplumber. (Lance Corporal in USMC)
October 29, 2012, 10:36 | #12 |
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Meh, what were class 3 prices in 1987?!?
October 29, 2012, 10:39 | #13 |
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In 85, they were about $200 more than the semi. As anyone could make them and people just wanted to recover the making tax. With the ban in 86, prices started to creep up.
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November 09, 2012, 07:20 | #14 |
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I was a first lieutenant in 1987 and was buying what I could. I remember AKs (Chinese) were selling for 299 and that was with 3 30 rd mags etc. They were practically giving away cases of 7.62x39. I was not much into AKs though. I already had an FN FAL and was buying HKs. I paid around 900 for a brand new HK94A3 with 3 mags. Strangely, the king of the heap as far as costs back then would have been the FAL...I did manage to pick up a Steyr AUG before we got "Bushed" in 1989....
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November 09, 2012, 12:59 | #15 | |
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The good old days for me was about the fall of 2003 when I had someone ask me if I could help 'sell' a few thousand brand new demiled AK-74 and AKs-74 kits and a pile of about 40,000 brand new (with a very few lightly used ones mixed in) mil-surp magazines for the same. He had been trickling them out the door and he wanted to move them out. He needed/wanted a pimp. I wanted at least $60 profit on each one so we sold the full stock Bulgarian 74s for $129, and the triangle side-folder 'S' models for $179 ... including CONUS UPS/FedEx shipping. The Bulgarian mags were 5 hand-picked new ones for $39 more if you bought a kit. Brand new Russian Plum mags were $12 ea. Someone else asked me if I was interested in selling Romanian AIM (7.62x39) kits. I said they won't bring more than $99 and I won't pay $69. Those, ... were the days my friends. . |
November 09, 2012, 13:00 | #16 |
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Yep, bought a gun south 50.63 in early 89 for $749.95. Also bought a mitchell M-76 with all accessories for $850.00.
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November 09, 2012, 13:42 | #18 |
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Mark, back that up 20 years to 1967 when I was an E-3 (over 2). My base pay was $179.70 a month, and before I went over 2, it was $128.70. Back that up another couple of years to when I was an E-2 fresh out of boot camp in 1965, my base pay was $72 a month. Before taxes.
However, in 1987, I was making fairly good money, and that Hungarian SA85M that mpnv spoke of would have cost me less than one paycheck. I was sharing a house with a couple of other guys then, and my rent was about $300 a month, so I was banking most of 3 paychecks out of 4 each month and had a LOT of disposabe income. A pretty fair chunk of that income was disposed of buying guns, ammo, and reloading gear. So for me, at least in terms of firearms, those really WERE the good ol' days.
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November 09, 2012, 21:32 | #19 |
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Purchased a HK91 NIB in 1980 for $525. It was 1/2 the price of the FAL at the time. Mini 14's were $235. 7.62 Hirtenberger cost me .08 cents a round.
Still have the receipt somewhere. Still have the HK also!! On the negtive side, HK mags were $32-$50 each, scope mounts $300-$400...Retracable stocks $300...accessories for the early HK were crazy! I bought a slim line forearm (they were virtually non exsistant) for $150 and was offered $250 for it multiple time! wish I'd of sold it!! |
November 09, 2012, 21:38 | #20 |
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I should add....Chinese SKS's in crates stacked floor to ceiling at Franklin's in athens were selling for $69 with all accessories...buy a whole crate and they were $59 each. On the otherhand 7.62x 39 ammo was $.30-.40 cents a round IF YOU COULD FIND IT.
late 70's and early 80's Ak were few and far between. VERY EXPENSIVE and no one ever heard of 5.45!! I don't think 5.45 were even imported until the mid 90's and even then ammo was Nobel/Dynomite match garde stuff for the East german sniper rifles...it was .$25-.30 cents a round at first!!! |
November 10, 2012, 00:57 | #21 |
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In 1987 I was still in high school and working at McDonalds part time. I bought a 1976 Olds Cutlass that I drove to the grave for $350.. Those were the days. lol.
(not my car.. just a representative sample)
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November 12, 2012, 15:15 | #22 |
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In 1991, full house AKs in cosmoline were $150 in Luxemburg. You could build a full house FAL for $250. No paperwork involved.
November 13, 2012, 08:24 | #23 |
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1986 = FNC for $500 and an HK-94 for $350. 1988 = MAK-90 for $100, milled for $200. FALs were really expensive and HK-91 mags were $60, not $1 like a few years back...
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November 17, 2012, 17:03 | #24 |
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I remember the first AK import ads I saw in the early 80's, the rifles were like 250 to 300 dollars. I still have one I bought way back then.
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Ugh, that's the truth. It wasn't until the AWB in '94 that I started buying military rifles. I remember the Indy gun shows in the 80's walking past tables of Galils, AKs, you name it. But you know, 20 years from now these are going to be the good old days. Buy baby buy!!
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November 22, 2012, 12:20 | #26 |
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Hello the camp! Hadda throw in my .02: before Clinton ban ['86?], was in Sportsman's [NOT Whse} in Mesa; AKs for, my recall, 175. I checked one out, said, "It rattles worse than my M1," and walked away [opleaseoplease a closetful of those oplease]. My M1 was 126.50 DCM, shpd to the house.
Yup, good old days, but three layoffs and a d-word put the kibosh on a fair 'accumulation'--never a 'collection'. But, I'm back; two safes: one kaboy guns, the other black rifles and 'stuff'. I just hope this latest fiasco doesn't put me on a 'to watch' list [I want to ask the chief RSO if I can tell Dems they can't shoot on my range]. Oh, yeah, and now I want to build an AK, for no other reason than the bump-fire stock is cheaper. See ya round the campfire. mm
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November 24, 2012, 06:04 | #28 |
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How about the good old days of the cheap Bocefus kits in mint condition?
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The Romanian parts sets he was getting by the pallet load from Shane at Centerfire (Century) were so cheap that most vendors like me wanted nothing to do with them. I was awash with Bulgarian 74s, Polish AKMSes and Tantals where the profit margin was more than double what was made on the Romys. I had all I could handle, and eventually more than I could handle. For awhile it appeared to me there were more AKs in Ohio than there were in Europe. I'd sure like to have a few now! |
November 24, 2012, 13:24 | #30 |
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Oh,yeah. AMD kits in excellent condition (-65s and -63s) for $100 or less, Romy Gs $79, FAC FMP g3 kits for $199. Hell, even the Rooski return Thompson kit I bought for $600 is starting to look damned good. And they all came with barrels... Intact barrels. Ben might even be regretting selling me that mint milled Bulgy AK kit for $99 a few years back.
November 24, 2012, 19:41 | #31 |
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In 1987, I was in Long Beach, with the US Navy. The local Hungarian SA85 special was $299 for either the fixed stock or under folder.
December 19, 2012, 03:45 | #32 |
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1987? I was just getting my drivers license and buying my first car (1982 Mustang GT)
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December 21, 2012, 00:11 | #34 |
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Maaaaaan, remember when the governor only got 22 bucks when you bought a really cool gun?
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In 1987, I was making $14.83 an hour in a factory welding away with some light machining thrown in the mix! I was saving up for my first house purchase in 1990. The total mortgage was $243.00 including taxes and insurance!! Full blown, super nice Izzy kits for under a hundred bucks! I still have it.
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December 21, 2012, 10:31 | #36 |
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I bought the exact same Norinco folder in '93 for $750. The Clinton ban was being pushed then.
February 12, 2013, 22:44 | #37 |
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Oh the good ol days!
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1994-now prices
I never wanted a military-style semi auto until 1994 when Bubba Clinton told me I couldn't have one. I paid the then-outrageous price of $579 for a Maadi ARM and my buddy got his MAK-90 for $399. Mags were a buck a round. Century FAL sporter (inch parts on "Canadian" receiver) was $800. Mint Russian SKS: $269, Chinese SKS $199
To put things in temporal perspective, in 1987 the minimum wage was $3.35/hr. In 1994 it was $4.25 and now it is $7.25. It still does not pace with inflation. Think AKs got expensive? In 1987 my SUNY tuition, full-time, was $675 per semester. Yes, under 700 bucks. Now it is $3994.50. How does *anyone* afford to go to college anymore? (Other than selling a garage full of AKs they bought in the '80s) No matter how you slice it, the AK is and always will be a $300 gun, no matter how much people are willing to pay for them. In fact even that's outrageous considering what real AKs cost on the foreign military market. I still love 'em though... |
February 28, 2013, 22:59 | #40 |
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Very interesting post guys thanks for all the recollection.
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My dad bought my Hungarian underfolder at B and B guns in North hollywood, he paid 339.99 with all the stuff with it. I was 14 yrs old in 1987 and I was right there in the B and B with him when he bought it.
I carried that rifle during the 92 riots and I still have it today. I added some friends to him so he's not lonely. Kinda addicting being half Hungarian myself. Sadly I had to let one of their friends go..a Hungarian made PKM but I got a Hungarian wife in return. I think it's a fair trade |
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Was that from a website of some sort? "Guns-for-wives.com".
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lol, I was thinking it was more of a good ole' fashioned Dowry. Not a bad idea. I'll have to remember that when some guy comes asking for my daughter's hand in marriage. "ahhh sure you can marry her, but first I need to see a new Barrett M82A1 sittin' on this here kitchen table..."
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Samantha - posted on 07/13/2010 ( 84 moms have responded )
I am curious to now how everybody else is going about bathtime with there little ones do you get in tub with them, still use infant bath tub, or tub ring
Samantha - posted on 07/13/2010 ( 84 moms have responded )
I am curious to now how everybody else is going about bathtime with there little ones do you get in tub with them, still use infant bath tub, or tub ring
Noreen - posted on 08/04/2010
Abby and I shower together. And if she needs a bath and I'm not getting in the shower, I put her in the sink. We have a stand up shower so I just let her play with her ducks at the bottom of the shower.
Karrie - posted on 08/01/2010
We've showered with our daughter since she was 2 weeks old and she loves it, having a bath is like a treat for her and she kicks and splashes the whole time almost need a raincoat there def isnt any left room for us with all that happening!
Caitlin - posted on 08/01/2010
My son never liked the infant bath so I always bathed with him from 1 month (a little after he lost his umbilical) I still bathe with him once in a while but for the most part he loves to take a bath by himself and crawl around a splash. :)
Katie - posted on 07/29/2010
We use the big tub with no more than 4-5 inches of water and HAVE to use a wash cloth or hand towel under her for her to sit on. This keeps her from slipping around all over the place. She loves it. I sat with her in there until 7 months, and for the last 3 months she's loved it and not slipped once. I still keep my hand at the ready though in case she were to lean back. She also just likes to lay in there on her back and splash like crazy. :)
Tiffany - posted on 07/28/2010
My son has grown out of the infant tub too. We most often do the kitchen sink..although it makes quite a mess, but he has a blast and it isn't like I can't clean up a little water! I am hoping to pick up a mat for the bottom of the tub so he will sit without slipping in there, but we do occasionally put him in there. As long as he has toys to play with, he isn't interested in crawling around. Good luck. My son used to hate bath time, now he cries when I take him out because he loves the water!
Jennifer - posted on 07/28/2010
From about 5 weeks old, I found it easier to bathe my son in the family bath. I have a non slip mat in there, so he can lay down and fill a couple of inches of water, so as to not cover his face. It's the easiest way I found as with the baby bath, I had so much trouble holding him up, this way I have both hands free!
Taisha - posted on 07/27/2010
My son is 10 months old and has been in the big tub for about 2 months now I fill it with just enough water to allow him to lay in and give him toys and he has a blast
Heather - posted on 07/27/2010
I'm waiting for my son to grow fins and gills. I always bathed him with his infant tub in the big tub. Once he got to where he wanted to climb out of it, I just removed the infant tub. He loves it....now if I can just get him to sit on his bottom instead of wanting to crawl and chase toys lol
Patricia - posted on 07/27/2010
My son is almost 11 months old. He outgrew his baby bath - so I bought a bath seat to put in the tub. It is the BEST! I wasn't going to get anything but he refuses to sit down - so I was nervous that he would slip and hurt himself in the regular tub. (Even with me holding him - he is very squirmy and wet hands - doesn't equal a safe situation). With the seat he stays sitting - and can lean over and play with his toy and splash the water. I love it. And he never even tries to stand. The only downside is that it's hard to reach his front to wash - so I just leave that for the end - then pull the front of the seat down and wash - then take him out. I would recommend this for any infant/toddler in between stages.
Jennifer Ann Saunders - posted on 07/26/2010
H gets in the big tub by himself and has for the last few months. Occassionally we do a quick bath in the baby tub, but mostly use the big tub. We are dealing with the standing up in the tub part now, but keep him distracted with lots of toys. He loves the water!
Becky - posted on 07/25/2010
My son is 10 months - born 09/07 - and I have a 2 year old son as well. I just put them both in the tub together, and have been doing that since Zach was about 7 months old and could sit up well. He loves being in the tub with his brother. His brother gets a little rowdy sometimes, so I have to watch them carefully, but he's learning. Our only issue is that Zach likes to stand up in the tub now!
Shar - posted on 07/25/2010
Any water time is exciting for Jaycen, he comes running to the sound of the shower/bath being turned on and cries if you don't share it with him.
Kendra - posted on 07/25/2010
My oldest is 3 & my youngest is 10 months & I put them in the bath tub together. I let my 3 yr old shower w/ me then when I'm done she wants to take a bubble bath. I tried putting my 10 month old in the shower but she didn't like it. I used a baby tub w/ her until she could sit up on her own & she started to crawl out of it. She has almost out grown the kitchen sink, she is almost too tall for it. I went to Target & bought one of the inflatable Munchin Duck bathtubs that I put the youngest one in & sit it in the bottom of the tub & she likes it. My oldest tries to get in there w/ her but she's too big for it. LOL! Either I put the little one in the duck tub or in the big tub & stay in the bathroom with them while they play.
Sam - posted on 07/24/2010
My son is 10 months and he sits in a seat that goes in the big bath tub, he absolutely loves it!
Hazel - posted on 07/24/2010
i have been using the infant tub till recently when he started his cruising stage.. i decided to get him to stand on the anti-slip mat and he balances on the rims of a pail (filled of course) and bath time is so much faster and uses lesser water!!
Stephanie - posted on 07/23/2010
I give both my girls at bath at the same time. Give them toys and they will sit and let them wash their body and hair.
Cynthia - posted on 07/23/2010
My 10 month old loves the water. He has been taking baths with his 3 year old sister with no assistance since he was 5 months old. I watch them to make sure they are ok, but he can sit up and play with toys. he loves it.
Michelle - posted on 07/23/2010
We used an infant tub, then I took a bath with him, and now he is in the tub by himself. My son is sitting up very well on his own and I put a non-slip mat in the tub so he does not do the "slip-n-slide". He loves taking a bath and cries when I take him out!
Ginger - posted on 07/23/2010
I use the Bumbo seat on the floor in the shower with me. It's the best & quickest way for me. I also have a 2 1/2 yr. old & the three of us shower together. I hold & wash the baby for part of the time, set him in the Bumbo seat & give him a toy for the rest of the time while I wash my toddler & myself. I can wash most of the baby while he's safely sitting in the seat. I just have to wash the bottom area while I'm holding him. He loves the shower & doesn't mind the water splashing him at all...
Melissa - posted on 07/23/2010
My daughter has always cried during a bath. I've tried different things, but using an inflatable tub that is shaped like a duck kind of helped. It feels soft and not so hard and not so cold like a bathtub. She likes that the duck quacks, but as soon as I start the water she cries. She didn't like getting into a swimming pool either. I have no idea how to get her to feel better about water. I've tried everything.
Nakima - posted on 07/23/2010
When it's time to wash his hair, I get in the tub with him. Otherwise, I plop him in by himself.
Sherri - posted on 07/23/2010
When JDubs (Jackson) was an infant, I gave him sponge bathes, when he turned 3 months, I put him in the tub. I just hold on to him and now at 10 months he loves it!
Tasha - posted on 07/22/2010
my son is 10 months old and has been bathing in the big tub since he could sit on his own. i have a non slip bath mat with suction cups on the bottom that i put down when hes in the tub. after his bath i rinse it off and hang it to dry in the shower. it works great. he can move around the whole tub and i dont have to worry about him slipping!
Patricia - posted on 07/22/2010
I get in with him. I have one of those Safty 1st seats, but the first time I tried to use it when he started learning to sit up, he was just sliding down. I just get in with him and he plays and then my husband comes and get him while I finish up my shower,
Natasha - posted on 07/22/2010
Big Tub. Went from the sink to the big bath tub!!! My son LOVES it, he sits up and splashes, then crawls around, then sits back up and splashes. It is probably his favorite time of the day. If he is in a bad mood, give him a bath :) I do not bath with him, but I might as well with how wet I get, me and his 5 year old brother like to just sit outside the tub, and play with him. He is very good at keeping his balance, but I always have my hands super close to catch him if he accidentally slips (He can NOT stand being on his back in the water, it freaks him out)
Angela - posted on 07/22/2010
We fill up the big tub just so that her legs are covered and put her in. I am there with her in case she tries to stand, but most of the time she stays seated or crawls a bit to get a toy. I tell her to stay on her knees or bottom. She loves it!
Eliza - posted on 07/22/2010
My daughter takes a bath in the tub with nothing in it except for a bunch of toys. I keep the water low enough so that she can crawl around easily. We also have a mat down in the bottom that keeps her from slipping. We've never had any problems.
She has eczema so we only wash her with soap every 3 nights (otherwise it's just a wipe down with a washcloth) but on those nights I get in with her, it's just easier.
Sally - posted on 07/22/2010
My son is nearlly 11months, he went from bath bath to big bath at 6mths in a bath ring. when he could sit up by himself probally, the bath ring went but I found he was slipping alot, so I got a Thomas the tank bath mat from baby bunting to stop him slipping. He has a gr8 time in the bath sitting up himself and he has now started crawling in there too.
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We out grew the infant tub about 3 months ago. He was a little wobbly in the tub at first but now he is more confident and tries to stand up and climb out. He loves taking a bath a playing in the water. I just make sure I stay right with him and only use about 2 inches of water. Occasionally I will put him in the tub with me but since the water has to be deeper he is less stable.
Ashley - posted on 07/21/2010
My baby has been sitting up in the bathtub for months. He slips around so I kneel at the edge of the tub at ALL times. He has fallen forward once when going for a toy so I have been very glad that I was there!
Also, my son lays down on his back and splashes - he LOVES his bath time. I have heard and used that the water should not be above your child's belly button - that is a good rule of thumb for where they can fall and get their own head up and out of the water!!!
Katie Ryan - posted on 07/20/2010
love the tub ring, but in the sink my son tries to climb out - tonight i tried bringing him in the shower which i thought would freak him out, but he LOVED it. my older son (same as the baby) had a phase where he HATED the bath, but i just kept them short and sweet (since no way were we giving up part of the nighttime routine) and they got over it and enjoyed the bath again. Piece of advice - NO tub toys that will squirt water, they never dry out, and can hold yucky germs (esp fecal bacteria if you bathe in the bathroom - EW!)
Melissa - posted on 07/20/2010
My daughter, Sophie, (10 months) loves the bath. If the bathroom door is open, she usually crawls in there, stands up against the bath and gets very excited! If she knows she's having a bath, she gets even more excited and can't wait to get in! She has a bath with her older sister (almost 3) and they have a ball!! We have a non-slip mat in the bath for Sophie which is good, cos if we have too much water in the bath, she starts to float away a bit! She loves being splashed and even having water poured on her head. She's very much a water baby! She's been in the big bath since she was about 4 months.
Rebecca - posted on 07/20/2010
My 10 month old has been bathing in the big bath tub since 7 months. She could sit up pretty well and I put a seat in the bathtub I could sit on so I could sit behind her. As time has gone on she doesn't need as much support. She loves to splash and play with toys!
Ophelia - posted on 07/20/2010
I find I still use the infant bath tub, I feel safer with it for the fact I can grab her easily, less water for her to slash everywhere too. I tried the regular tub, she kept sliding and almost sliding under the water and the full tub makes her nervous and cry
Cheri' - posted on 07/20/2010
my son is 10 months he goes in the shower with me and sits in his bath seat that suctions to the tub i always keep on foot on it and he sits and plays while i shower then i clean him and we rinse and its done... its sooo much easier and faster!
Maria - posted on 07/20/2010
about a month or 2 ago i started putting julian in the tub with nothing. at first he was scared and slipped around a little bit. he dunked his face a few times and was terrified. but i just kept doing it and after about 3 days (and face dunks) he figured it out. and now i put him in there with his toys and he doesnt want to come out! hell stay in for half an hour if i let him playing in the water
Laura - posted on 07/20/2010
My son outgrew the infant tub fairly quickly. When we first transitioned to the big tub he would have bath time with my husband or myself. As he grew stronger & could hold himself up better he went in alone. He is now 10 mths & loves bath time in the kitchen sink (although his harder to get him squeeky clean in there). He also bathes in the big tub & quite often sits on the floor of the shower (shower head pointed far against the opposite wall so he doesn't get it in the face). My guy is very inquisitive & strong willed, so I have to watch him like a hawk every time he bathes. Sitting & playing/splashing just isn't so much fun anymore. Now he has to stand up & look around or pull the plug. He's had a few slips & falls this way.
Belinda - posted on 07/20/2010
My bub loved splashing around so much in the plastic table top baby bath that he got very frustrated at about 8 weeks..... he was hitting his head and kicking the end of the bath. We bought a toweling wire framed hammock type thing that sits in the bottom of the big bath and they lay in. I kept him in that til he could sit up. Then took it out and just held onto him for a week or 2 til he could sit comfortably on his own. He does slip around a little bit but I am always there to grab him and stop his face hitting the water. The freedom has given him alot of confidence in the water.....he LOVES his baths and always has. Glad we did it the way we have.
Davia - posted on 07/19/2010
With my little girl I would usually put her in her own tub so that she can play and splash a little whiles I bathe her off. I believe she likes all the attention on her during bath time.
Lindsay - posted on 07/19/2010
I should add that my son bathed in his baby tub once.. maybe.. it was way too awkward! nowhere to put it, i didn't have enough counter space, and putting it in the bathtub would kill my back, as well as just placing it on the floor, (not to mention making a huge mess!) I do have a little.. wedge-shaped.. mesh thing, that you can lay immobile babies on, it is at a 30ish degree incline, so baby's head can stay out of the water, and i used that before kiddo could sit upright at all, even in the tub seat, which he would slouch!
Kim - posted on 07/19/2010
HI my baby girl is nearly 11months n she loves water she out grow her baby bath really quick by the time she hit 3months she was in the big bath in i didn't av no probs wiv her slippin until she learnt how to pull her self up n stand so i went out and brought her a bath mat so she dnt slip nw she loves it in bath wiv all her toys and she loves to splash around.
Caren - posted on 07/19/2010
I put my 10 month old right into the big tub, most of the time with his siblings, but occasionally he gets one by himself and he loves it!! I just put about 2-3 inches of water and let him splash around.
Sarah - posted on 07/19/2010
Hello, For about 2-3 months now i have changed bathtime up. My little one grew too big for his infant tub. I was walking through Walmart one day and found an inflatable rubber ducky tub. I picked it up right away it was only $10.00 and it has been awesome. With my little one's infant tub i was worried about him throwing his head back and hitting it on the hard plastic surface, but with the new inflatable rubber ducky he doesn't hurt his head when he goes back and forth. He seems to love it too. It also makes a quacking noise when you squeeze it's bill. Way too cute..:)
Lindsay - posted on 07/19/2010
my son is 10 months old and he has been showering with me for about 6-7 months, before that we bathed together, he only has baths alone if he is particularly dirty! it is SO MUCH easier that way! we both get clean! before he could sit well, he was in a tub ring while i washed my hair, then i would soap him up and pick him up to rinse. now he crawls around playing with his toys, and the drain!
Vanessa - posted on 07/19/2010
My 10m old has been having a shower since he was 2m old and he was in the baby bath up untill a few weeks ago. I had it in our big bath.. Now hes in the BIG bath he loves it, Ive put a slip sheet down in the bath so he wont slip about.. Im not sure if thats what they are called (its a plastic sheet with suction cups on the bottom so it doesnt move) He has lots of toys and sometimes bubbles.. The only thing I want to get is a cover for the water spout.. I get very worried he will bash his head on it..
If he tries to stand I just say NOOOOO we sit down in the bath and put him back down, and if he keeps doing it he gets out.. Hes quite good and dosnt do it to much, but he LOOOOVES to splash which is soooo funny!!..
Ariana - posted on 07/19/2010
My almost 10 month old outgrew his tub very quickly, I just put a few inches of warm water in the big tub , some rubber duckies and he has a good old time! It's hilarious when he has more than 2 toys cause he tries to grab the other ones and looses the ones in his hands, then goes after the original , and it just keeps going on like this till he can't see the extra toy.
Alison - posted on 07/19/2010
My 10 month old son outgrew his infant tub, we put in the big bathtub but in a blow-up duck that keeps him in place. He loves it and we give him bath toys/books to keep him occupied while soaping him up and all. He has a lot of fun with bathtime!
Brandi - posted on 07/19/2010
I just use on of the non slip mats that go in the tub for big or small people and sit at the edge of the tub to bathe my daughter.... She does great with it but, then again she loves taking a bath. It works out pretty good.
Hannah - posted on 07/19/2010
My son is nearly 10 months old and has always loved his bath time. He is a big boy so quickly outgrew his little tub and has been in the big bath from around 4 months. I used to just fill it a little and he would lay down in it and kick his feet! now he enjoys sitting up on a bath mat and playing with his toys. Sometimes he accidently puts his face in the water but it doesn't seem to bother him! He also enjoys a shower.
Joline - posted on 07/18/2010
My son is 10 months old now and normally loves his bath time. We use his infant tub inside the big tub so he gets to splash a lot and make a mess yet he is still confined. He loves it! My Mom still likes to give him a quick bath in the sink sometimes. Bath toys are a plus! I haven't taken a bath with him yet but want to try it and see his face.
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In the APAC countries, very few stem cell therapies have been introduced onto the market. Mr Gaikwad says that South Korea can be described as a pioneer in the field of stem cell therapy. The country, which suffered a setback with the Hwang-Woo-Suk scandal in the last decade, has approved products for indications such as Hearticellgram-Acute Myocardial Infarction (HCG-AMI), knee cartilage injury (Cartistem), and Crohn's disease anal fistula (Cupistem).
Japan too has been a leader in stem cell research. Most recently, a team of scientists in Japan showed that stem cell technology can be used to rejuvenate immune cells to fight diseases such as cancer and HIV/AIDS. The report was published in the journal Cell Stem Cell. To boost research, the Japanese government pledged around $400 million (30 billion Yen) over the next 10 years for stem cell research. The country is also setting up a stem cell bank of 75 induced pluripotent stem cell (iPS cell) lines intended for future therapies.
In India, both the industry and academia are showing keen interest in the field. According to GBI Research, stem cell therapy in the country has witnessed growth, which can be attributed to increased participation from industry and academia. The research in India focuses on diseases that have high unmet needs or high prevalence, such as diabetes mellitus among others. Limbal stem cell therapy has been used successfully for the treatment of corneal blindness in India.
According to Mr Gaikwad of GBI Research, of more than 100 clinical programs for stem cell therapy in the APAC region, only nine R&D programs are in late stage of developments (phase II and phase III) and are likely to hit the market within the next four to five years.
In 2012, Health Canada became the world's first regulatory body to approve a manufactured stem cell product, Prochymal (remestemcel-L), a stem cell therapy by Osiris Therapeutics for the treatment of acute graft-vs-host disease (GvHD) in children. The New Zealand regulatory body too has approved the product.
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Social-media tools can unite government and citizen
It's easy to see governments and their agencies as nameless, faceless monoliths, something impersonal or, even worse, untrustworthy. But that notion only prevails because government culture remains steeped in traditional ideas about public relations and outreach work, notions that have become archaic in an Internet-enabled, hyperconnected world.
As private companies are learning to embrace social media to manage brand reputations, governments also must adapt if they wish to communicate more effectively with their citizens and stakeholders — their customers.
Just like private companies, agencies need to manage their public identity — their brands — to create trust and loyalty.
The collaborative tools and social-media applications that have come to be known as Web 2.0 can, if used smartly and imaginatively, enable governments to enhance their brands and underlying missions.
Behind every press release, Web page, and social-networking account is a person. But when people hide behind organizational brands, it reduces the authenticity and transparency that people — citizens, customers, fans — have become accustomed to seeing in the emerging Web 2.0 media world. New social tools and niche communications instead allow communicators to connect with their audiences on a more personal level and develop what has been called ambient intimacy.
In Washington, D.C., one early advocate of this is Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas), who has experimented with social software, including the live Web video broadcast technology called Qik. And some administration officials, such as Colleen Graffy, departing deputy assistant secretary of state for public diplomacy, have bravely taken the plunge with text microblogging tools, such as Twitter.
Through social software, these brand ambassadors have the potential to promote messages through what I call indirect, intimate influence.
Brand ambassadors ideally listen and learn from ongoing conversations and then engage in them, forming bidirectional interactions.
Ideally, they also talk about more than just their brands on social networks. A good ambassador will also talk about other aspects of his or her life, to the point that followers eventually begin to see the brand ambassador as something of a trusted friend.
Indeed, government brand ambassadors should conduct community-based research to understand the marketplace. What do the elderly living in the Southwest think about health care? What does the man on the street in Greece think of U.S. foreign policy? My guess is that most people don't know who the government authority is on such issues. While many interests are represented in Washington, the interests of the average person are often misunderstood or overlooked.
The concept of "lethal generosity" holds that the most engaged and sharing person in a community will eventually become the most trusted. By leading overt discussions online and in person, using indirect, intimate influence and developing ambient intimacy, government brand ambassadors will gain a greater sense of public sentiment, which would, in turn, allow lawmakers to formulate better informed — and better received — public policy.
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Well put, Mark. From my experience with government culture, I would only fear that "brand ambassador" would be implemented in the singular, which would be probably end up meaning the person who is currently handling press releases. Of course, that's better than nothing, but it would be more effective if all employees were seen as brand ambassadors.
The trust created by social media is strong. Whether you are putting a face on government, real estate, or recruiting, it's acknowledgment of the culture that's key. As Mark states, it's not about just pumping out information. Real people are valued. It's very cool. Go, go gov.


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AARP Calls on Congress to Oppose Increases in Medicare Premiums
"Raising premiums does nothing to address the problem of rising health costs"
WASHINGTON – AARP Chief Executive Officer A. Barry Rand today sent a letter to members of Congress, urging them to oppose an increase in premiums for higher-income people in Medicare and to prevent a physician pay cut to help keep doctors in the Medicare program in any final legislative package.
Raising premiums for higher-income Medicare beneficiaries ignores the fact that these individuals have already paid more into the program through higher payroll and income taxes, and are already subject to higher-income Medicare Part B and D premiums. And unless Congress acts by the end of the year to prevent the nearly 30 percent reduction in Medicare physician payments, more physicians may choose to no longer take Medicare patients.
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On behalf of our members, AARP urges you to oppose inclusion of an increase in the higher income premium surtax for Medicare beneficiaries or reductions to affordable health care subsidies to fund the package containing the payroll tax holiday extension and other measures.
Medicare Income-Relating Proposal
The proposal asks seniors with incomes at $80,000 and above to pay for a package that includes a tax break for the entire working population, regardless of income level. It makes little sense to tax higher income Medicare beneficiaries to fund a stimulus tax relief measure for workers, including higher income workers, and is particularly problematic given that Medicare beneficiaries receive no direct benefit.
Further, the Medicare program is income related multiple times already. There is no cap on income for purposes of the Medicare payroll tax, thus higher income earners already contribute more to the program. In addition, seniors currently pay separate income related premiums for both Medicare Part B and Part D. Further, the Medicare program also receives income from the taxation of better-off seniors' Social Security benefits. Finally, seniors who continue to work (a major reason why seniors hit the threshold in the first place) continue to pay the Medicare payroll tax, and a portion of seniors' income taxes helps fund the Medicare program. The placement of an additional surtax on higher income beneficiaries is unwarranted, and is simply a further disincentive to work and save.
Income relating is also problematic for new Medicare enrollees, since the Medicare income-related determination relies on the beneficiary's tax return from the prior year (which reports income from the year before). Many new retirees, whose income is likely to have dropped significantly from their working years, would be subject to even more unaffordable higher income-related premiums based on their previous wages, not their current financial situation.
Further income relating may also result in higher income beneficiaries leaving the Medicare program. This would worsen the Medicare risk pool, leaving more costly beneficiaries in the Medicare program and thus raising costs for everyone else. Finally, raising premiums does nothing to address the fundamental problem of rising health costs. Rather than simply shift more costs to beneficiaries, we should be adopting measures to help improve health care delivery and lower health costs throughout the health care system.
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As Congress moves forward in developing an improved physician payment system, we urge changes to payment policies that emphasize value over volume and improve outcomes and the quality of care for Medicare beneficiaries. It is also important to remember that Medicare beneficiaries' premiums and cost-sharing are directly tied to Part B program costs. Beneficiaries -- who typically spend nearly 20 percent of their income on health care -- pay for 25% of part B program costs, and already absorb an increase in out of pocket costs tied to higher physician reimbursement.
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Older workers age 55 and older are out of work an average of 58.2 weeks, longer periods of unemployment than for younger workers. An extension of unemployment benefits would greatly assist older workers who have lost their jobs and depend on extended unemployment benefits during this period of time.
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There's a lot of driving and talking in "Like Someone in Love," Iranian director Abbas Kiarostami's latest production, but beyond that's only the surface. Following last year's Tuscany-set "Certified Copy," the new movie — which premiered in competition at Cannes last May and screens at the New York Film Festival this week — finds the director in the vastly different turf of Tokyo with an all-Japanese cast. But even far away from home, Kiarostami is still Kiarostami.
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Outside of shooting in Japan, what felt new to you about this production?
It was as new as any film is when it started. Plus, in Japan everything was new — the people, the faces, the food.
Without understanding the language, how could you tell if the actors were giving you the performances you wanted?
My aim was on one side not to neglect their culture and their specificities, but at the same time not to leave any display of Japanese culture in my film. My concern was to find out whether there were any universal qualities in them as characters.
You may have been a foreigner in Japan, but Japanese cinema isn't foreign to you. Your 2003 film "Five Dedicated to Ozu" indicates as much. I wonder if there was any aspect of Japanese cinema that inspired when you were conceiving of this story.
Well, the Japanese films that I had in mind were the classics of Japanese cinema, the ones I was familiar with. But then as I had to work in Japan, I started watching plenty of new Japanese films in order to see the actors and also to choose a DP, and I realized that they had absolutely nothing to do with my memory and my knowledge of Japanese classic cinema. And I found them much more American in a way. So I made my film with my own views and then many people told me that my film was more Japanese than the present Japanese cinema.
Did that feel like a success to you?
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At the same time, because this film and "Certified Copy" involve an ambiguous relationship between two characters, it's very easy to see one being a companion piece to the other. How do you feel about that comparison?
Well, I wouldn't interfere in a view that can be the spectator's or the critic's analysis of my work, so I accept it as their point of view. But I must say that, for me, the link was not conscious at all. I didn't mean it, I wasn't aware of it. However, they are both the products of the same imagination, so there must be a relationship between the two.
Virtually all of your films require the audience to do some legwork and interpret your intentions. However, in the case of your earlier films — like, say, "Close Up" — much of that interpretation related to the precise conditions of Iranian society. Do you still feel that your roots inform your work?
Again, I'm not the one who can actually tell you exactly how I can be perceived or how you as an audience or as a critic can perceive the fact that I've made two films in different societies. But I think that if you take characters in the film as they are and if you don't try to put them in molds and interfere too much with their nature, characters all have their own mystery and their own ambiguity. So they are not related to one specific identity or land.
I think the current point between the character from "Close-Up" and my last two films is that they all have something to say, but they all have this very unsaid and unuttered aspect about their personalities. And I cannot express that. I think all characters have this complexity of human nature that is closer to you than truth, and so I feel compassion for the mystery and I don't think that I'm here to reveal it.
Next page: The challenges of making movies in modern-day Iran. Also: Why Kiarostami loved shooting on digital.
Are you still comfortable making films under the constraints imposed by the Iranian government?
Well, the situation is undoubtedly difficult and for everyone, I think if there weren't these constraints I'd have stayed in my country and worked in Iran. So I think we all found our own solution for going out and working. Some people stayed in Iran and dealt with the censorship and tried to work however they could in their own country. Some others like me decided to go and work elsewhere. And others just left the country and live elsewhere, whereas I still live in my country. I'm not judging any of these choices. Each of us does what we can, and that's the only way. But of course the situation is difficult for everyone.
Last year, when "A Separation" won the Oscar, the award put a lot of attention on Iranian cinema around the world. Just last week we heard that this year's Oscar submission would be withdrawn because of a boycott. I wonder if you have any thoughts about whether or not that's a problem for Iranian cinema today.
The truth is this situation in Iran is so serious and so bad now that this kind of event doesn't even really have an impact. I think what's really at stake now in Iran is just the economy's survival. People really have to struggle and the film industry is, of course, under the same pressure. The biggest issue now for Iranian cinema is just to find a way to survive. So this event in a time of peace could have an impact. But now the situation is in such turmoil, and we are in the middle of a war — even if it is a cold war — so this kind of event doesn't even touch us.
Let's get back to discussing your films. In the United States, most studios are abandoning film in favor of digital. A lot of filmmakers who have been working before digital video was so popular see this as a problem. But you've been able to adapt because you started shooting on digital fairly early on. Do you think the general transition to digital filmmaking is a positive step?
Cinema doesn't need any specific medium or any specific way to exist, and it can go on existing through any technical evolution, so for myself, yes, I use digital. I have to tell you that, 40 years ago when I started making films, I would use film with a digital approach. So this is a way of working, a concept of filming, rather than the tool itself. Tools change, but then you have your own way of working regardless of the tools that you're given.
Because you've been working so long and there are certain expectations an audience brings to your work, when you start a new project how do you know that it will provide you the right kind of challenge?
It's all about finding a new challenge. This is the only reason I go on making films, no matter in what country, no matter in what language. I need novelty. I need to make something unheard of for myself. Otherwise, I have other ways of expressing myself. I take photographs and I write poetry, which is enough for me to go on peacefully for the rest of my life. But if I go on making films, it's because I need novelty and I need new challenges. And I keep on finding them. Just before you came in, I was explaining a scene from my next project to my translator. I was asking her how she found the scene because the idea I have for my next project is very anti-cinematographic, but that's the reason why it's very interesting and challenging for me.


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The following arm-toning exercises were designed to be performed during Week 2 of the Whole Living Action Plan on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. "Try to hold the poses a little longer each day for greater stability and strength," says fitness pro Ellen Barrett, creator of the DVD "Fusion Flow." For this Pilates swimming move, lie on your belly with arms and legs extended. Lift the left arm and right leg off the floor as high as you possibly can without bending the elbow and knee. Then switch, lifting the alternate arm and leg. Alternate quickly for 30 seconds.
Sitting on the floor, swing your legs around to the left side with your right arm out, palm flat on the floor, about a foot away from your body. Slowly lower your torso to the right, bending your right elbow (next image), then straightening again. Repeat 20 times on each side.
From a sitting position, put feet and palms flat on the floor, fingers pointing toward your feet. Lower your body, bending elbows straight back. Then push yourself up (next image). Do 2 sets of 10, resting in between.
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