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Flesh and Blood (episode)
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Voyager answers a distress call from a Hirogen outpost – only to find carnage caused by holographic technology that Captain Janeway has given them.
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Two Hirogen hunt on a tropical landscape, finally finding and almost successfully hunting down an unknown creature, who barely eludes them. With uncharacteristic caution, they slowly track their "prey" to a small lake but instead Humans in Starfleet uniforms emerge from the water and kill them with a barrage of various weapons fire.
Act OneEdit
Meanwhile on the USS Voyager, The Doctor asks Chakotay for some time off so he can go to a symposium on space-borne pathogens. Chakotay refuses, saying the planet was two weeks in the wrong direction. As The Doctor argues with him, Captain Kathryn Janeway calls him to the bridge, saying they have received a distress call on a Hirogen frequency.
They arrive to find a Hirogen base with strange bio-sign readings. Janeway orders Chakotay to take an away team to the base.
Once inside, they find a tropical landscape and two dead Hirogen hunters. Tuvok's scans indicate the burns are from a type 3 phaser. They also find a Klingon bat'leth stuck in a nearby tree. When they begin to approach a wounded Hirogen, he fires on them. However, Tuvok sneaks up from behind and knocks him out with a Vulcan nerve pinch. Tom Paris beams him to sickbay.
Seven of Nine soon uncovers Starfleet holographic technology, and identifies holoemitters throughout the structure. When she shuts off the grid, dozens of dead Hirogen appear, lying in the giant hologrid.
After the away team returns and recounts their experience, Janeway is surprised at how real Chakotay says it was; it fooled their sensors and had no safety protocols. She concludes the Hirogen missed the point of this technology, for it was supposed to let them hunt safely while preserving their culture, not get them killed.
In sickbay, they find The Doctor unable to get close to the still-frantic hunter, who believes that this is a simulation and that The Doctor intends to harm him. When Janeway explains who she is, however, the Hirogen, named Donik, recognizes her and wants to know what happened. He cannot believe everyone else is dead. He explains that the base was a training facility for young Hirogen and that he is not a "Hunter" but a lowly technician. The holograms were malfunctioning, and there were too many of them. He couldn't shut the system off.
Tuvok then notifies Janeway that a Hirogen ship is on an intercept course. It begins firing almost immediately, and refuses their hails. She orders Tuvok to return fire but to only target their weapon systems. After Voyager successfully disables their phaser banks and Janeway again tries hailing them, the Hirogen retain an aggressive posture yet are now willing to talk. She explains Voyager has a Hirogen aboard and manages to get the two Hirogen to come aboard from their now impotent vessel to speak with her and Donik.
Upon receiving a summary of Voyager's encounter with the training facility and rescue of Donik, the two Hirogen, revealed to be Hunters, become hostile towards him, accusing him of cowardice and blaming him for the recent holodeck catastrophe. Janeway retains a stern posture towards the Hirogen, preferring to defuse the situation by attempting to ascertain what led to the incident. Donik, when asked, says he couldn't delete the holographic prey, for they transferred themselves to another vessel that was equipped with holoemitters. Janeway questions the wisdom of creating holograms apparently capable of self-awareness and ingenuity. The Hirogen simply reply that if they were any less sophisticated, the hunt wouldn't be interesting.
The two Hunters are more cooperative when it comes down to tracking the missing ship. They quickly and correctly identify the way to track the ship by scanning for polarized EM emissions. They are still hard on Janeway, and blame her as well as Donik, but allow Voyager to join the hunt for that ship. Chakotay and Tuvok have reservations about an alliance with the hunters, but Janeway explains that's Voyager's responsibility since that was Starfleet technology that killed the Hirogens.
They find the holograms' ship soon, and find it has taken damage. The hunters begin to close immediately, but Janeway urges caution. They ignore her. As soon as Harry Kim detects no weapons, warp drive, or shields, the image of the ship turns into something much smaller which then explodes. The Hirogen ship is badly damaged, and Janeway orders transport of the casualties. However, part way through, another Hirogen ship appears, and this one is real. It ignores Voyager's hail, and begins firing immediately. With Voyager's shields down, it manages to transport The Doctor's program out of sickbay and onto the ship. They go to warp and mask their signature.
The Doctor materializes on the ship to find dozens of holograms. Iden, a Bajoran officer in charge, reassures him he won't be injured.
Act TwoEdit
But The Doctor doesn't care about that. He wants to treat dying patients on Voyager. They won't let him go, but the officer explains their situation. Dozens of holograms are "wounded," beginning to fade out and destabilize, and they need his help. The Doctor insists he is not an engineer, but the officer asks him if he has ever repaired his own matrix. He has, so after being convinced these injures are no different than flesh and blood casualties, he reluctantly agrees to see what he can do.
Meanwhile, aboard Voyager, Donik is explaining how the emitters work. He believes they can disable a central power generator, and that will disable them all. B'Elanna Torres, however, disagrees. She shows the captain an intimidating list of capabilities, including enhanced memory and expandable data processing. She concludes that Donik lied; they are not malfunctioning, they are simply doing what they were programmed to do too effectively. Donik says he did it under orders from his Alpha.
Janeway takes him to the mess hall, which has been turned onto makeshift sickbay. The Beta aboard the destroyed Hirogen ship wakes up, angry. Janeway informs him that he will not be contacting his ship, and his superior was the one who gave the instructions for the modifications. The way she sees it, they have planned for the hunters' tactics, and Janeway is confident she can deactivate them from a distance. The hunter believes it is cowardly, and refuses to help, believing they should be hunted to extinction. Donik, however, will help.
Meanwhile, aboard the stolen ship, The Doctor does his best to heal his patients. He has the novel idea of a subroutine transplant, obviously taking a page from medicine. Kejal, a Cardassian with a Bajoran name, assists him. He is surprised with her computer skills. She says she had to teach herself; the hunters tried to limit their knowledge.
The next patient, a woman in a Starfleet uniform, enters with blood on her face and reacts in pain. Kejal explains that the Hirogen wanted the holograms to bleed and suffer pain when they were killed. The Doctor has trouble believing the hunters' barbarism.
When he speaks with the Bajoran officer, he finds him praying. He says he is asking the Prophets to guide the souls of the dead hunters to the celestial temple. He believes in them. The officer explains their fight just as a Bajoran would the rebellion on Bajor: as a liberation. He came from a training facility fifteen parsecs from that one, he explains, where he was killed over and over again by the Alpha there. For a hologram, not even death would end the pain and fear. He adapted with each death, eventually becoming cunning enough to escape. After fleeing them, he found other holograms fighting their captors, and he was so inspired, he started fighting alongside them. Now, this ship of renegades is looking to create a permanent home away from all of the threatening "organics."
He points out that many organic species throughout the sector as the Nuu'Bari or the Lokirrim have created and enslaved holograms. He then tries to convince The Doctor to stay with them in the ship, saying that he could have privileges here he couldn't have on Voyager. The Doctor, however, doesn't buy it. He feels respected by his colleagues, and continues to judge him harshly. The officer concludes that he must experience life as prey, and then he will understand, and The Doctor immediately finds himself back in the jungle, running for his life. He is soon caught, brutalized, and killed.
He suddenly wakes up on a table, and the officer explains he was made to experience memory files of one of them. He is outraged at being violated in such a way, especially to gain his sympathy. The officer insists they are alike; it was The Doctor who was the template for them, able to rise above his programming as they can. They offer to take him back to Voyager, but he decides to at least hear about the home they wish to build.
Act ThreeEdit
Kejal explains that they are hoping a photonic field generator can be modified for deployment on a planet, where they can use it to create a complete holographic environment. They want The Doctor's help to make it possible. He doesn't know nearly enough, but he suggests someone on Voyager could help, like Lieutenant Torres, since she knows a lot about hologram generators. They refuse, saying Voyager is in league with the hunters. The Doctor offers to talk to Janeway, since he believes they are operating under a misconception. They regretfully agree.
Meanwhile on Voyager, Donik and Seven find a way to disrupt their emitter with an antiphoton pulse from the deflector dish. Before the modifications can finish, however, the hologram's ship intercepts them, and hails. The Doctor makes his plea, saying that the holograms have come to make peace.
When The Doctor explains all this, Janeway is skeptical. She says that giving the technology to the Hirogen was a mistake, and furthering their plan with more technology would be a bigger mistake. The Doctor tries to convince her that these holograms are different. They have adapted beyond the viciousness which with they were programmed.
The debate is cut short, however, when a fight breaks out in the mess hall. All of the hunters kept there, led by their new Alpha, start attacking the security officers. Tuvok stuns a few, and gets them under control, but not before the new Alpha can send a signal. Two more Hirogen ships are soon detected on an intercept course.
The Captain orders Torres to shut down the holograms with the burst over The Doctor's objections. She asks Iden and the others to allow Voyager to transport them aboard, and she will help them find a more permanent residence at a future time. Iden, however, doesn't trust her. She says she will deactivate them by force, and he fires and jumps to warp.
The Doctor, unhappy with the captain's decision, loads himself into the mobile emitter, and gives the holograms Voyager's shield frequencies to beam him aboard. He will help them come up with a defense against the pulse.
Aboard the ship, The Doctor objects to a suggestion to use their shield frequencies to target the bridge. Fortunately, Iden is a man of his word, and suggests they find another way.
They soon find it. Thanks to The Doctor's data, they send feedback along the pulse, and overload Voyager's deflector dish, along with most of the primary systems. Torres just barely gets a force field around the warp core in time to protect it before a shock knocks her unconscious.
With Voyager's shields down, Iden has Torres transported aboard his own ship (having located her by scanning for Klingon life signs), and then orders to go to warp.
Act FourEdit
The Doctor examines Torres, and is outraged at her abduction. He considers his trust betrayed, and does his best to treat her. Iden insists he will let her go if she doesn't want to help them.
On the disabled Voyager, Seven of Nine is doing her best to repair all of the damaged systems. The captain is still baffled by how they guessed the frequency of the pulse so quickly until Tuvok shows her the report detailing an encrypted transmission and a transport in sickbay.
Going down the hall, she asks Chakotay if she should have seen this coming, saying she will run a diagnostic on The Doctor when he gets back. Chakotay, however, points out The Doctor could simply have believed in their cause, and there could be nothing wrong with him. That would create an ethical dilemma.
The Doctor tries to talk to the now-conscious Torres. She is angry at The Doctor, and is completely unwilling to assist the photonics. She scoffs at The Doctor's common heritage talk, though he tries to draw parallels with her own decision to joined the Maquis. Finally, Torres expresses a reluctant willingness to at least take a look at the photonic generator. She is unimpressed by Iden, and is surprised when she is told she will be working with Kejal, the Cardassian.
Back on Voyager, Paris, Donik, and the Captain are in astrometrics. They cannot track the holograms' ship, and are keeping an eye on the ever-closing Hirogen ships. Donik offers to stay and modify the shields, not wanting to return to his people. He feels it is his fault since he did the modification, and he doesn't want to become a hunter; he wants to be an engineer.
The Hirogen ships, however, are not happy about that. They demand his return, and when Janeway explains he is improving their sensors, they insist they will not share that technology. They warn her to stay away from the holograms, or Voyager also becomes prey.
Act Five Edit
Voyager keeps a sensor lock on them, and Janeway comes up with a plan. Donik explains they have a blind spot due to an ion wake, which Voyager can exploit. They can get in range with his knowledge of their scanning frequencies, and then Tuvok can perform a precise strike using the element of surprise.
Torres discovers the problem with the photonic generator almost immediately: it needs more optronic capacity. She hasn't decided whether or not to tell them yet how to increase the output. She doesn't know whether these holograms will take over someone else's home when theirs isn't big enough. Kejal convinces her that making a home for themselves is all they want, and whatever they may appear to be, they are holograms. She looks Cardassian, but she is not arrogant and cruel, characteristics that Torres supposes describe all Cardassians, even photonics.
The Doctor, meanwhile, is having doubts. He is considering returning to Voyager with Torres. Iden shows The Doctor the planet they intend to settle on, called Ha'Dara. It's class Y, with a toxic atmosphere, extreme conditions, and has no life. That's the point, says Iden; they are holograms, and they will have what they need most: protection from hostile organics. Since there will be no one to heal, The Doctor will be free to do what he pleases.
Just then, the Hirogen detect them. They head for a nebula which blinds their sensors. The Hirogen decide to split up; one ship scans the perimeter, the other will drive them out.
Act Six Edit
Voyager, still aft of the Hirogen ship, enters the nebula. They barely manage to stay in its wake.
The holograms' ship, meanwhile, hides. The Hirogen's attempt to flush them out is destined to fail. Torres gets Kejal onto the system, and notices great self-confidence in her – a Cardassian trait. At the same time, The Doctor suggests to Iden he (The Doctor) could be Minister of Culture, teaching the holograms about things like art. However, when his lessons begin to speak of "organic" cultures, Iden objects. He wants to create a new one, even a new religion based upon their experiences. The Doctor doesn't like being worshipped, but Iden says he has been chosen. Just then, a Nuu'Bari ship is detected, and they go to "liberate" the three holograms on it.
The Doctor confides in Torres about Iden's emerging fanatical tendencies, suggesting maybe this whole endeavor wasn't such a good idea. Torres then uses this information to confront Iden, but he ignores her.
Iden contacts the Nuu'Bari and informs them they will transfer the holograms to them, or they will be taken by force. The holograms disable the Nuu'Bari shields with phasers, and then beam their holograms aboard. After that, at Iden's orders, they target a photon torpedo at the Nuu'bari's warp core. Over protests from Kejal and Torres, Iden fires, destroying the Nuu'bari ship, killing its (organic) crew of two.
Act SevenEdit
Torres and The Doctor are horrified at what seems to them nothing short of murder. There was no reason for them to kill defenseless organics. They drag the protesting Torres to the lab.
Iden explains to The Doctor it was necessary; they were going to call in Consortium hunting parties to track them down. The Doctor tries to dissuade Iden from his view that all organics are like the Hirogen. Iden says they are, and The Doctor just can't see that. The Doctor requests his escape pod. Iden says he will give it to them when they reach Ha'Dara.
The Doctor apologizes to Torres for getting her involved in Iden's personal war. Torres mentions she has a plan to find a way out, then goes to help Kejal with repairing the Nuu'bari holograms.
Torres tries to convince Kejal to rebel, saying that Iden is not the leader of peace time; she reminds her that it's the engineers like herself and Kejal that actually build societies. However, Iden comes in, and then the Nuu'Bari holograms are activated. However, no matter what he says, they simply do not understand. Iden wonders if they are malfunctioning, but Torres explains that they are not. They are programmed to support about 40 basic subroutines. Kejal confirms this. Iden calls this yet another form of oppression and demands they be enhanced. Torres explains that their programs are not complex enough to allow it. Iden simply brushes it off, claiming that he will deliver them to freedom. The bridge informs Iden they are now in orbit of the planet. Iden has Torres restrained; The Doctor demands Iden let Torres go, but he refuses because he now sees through her prejudices towards holograms.
That's when the Hirogen target the holograms, and Voyager begins firing on their ships. The engines and weapons of both ships are disabled. As Iden is considering thanking Voyager, they begin firing on the holograms' ship. Iden has them return fire, and beam the Hirogen to the surface to be hunted as they once were. The Doctor objects again, noting that the Hirogen cannot live long breathing that atmosphere, but Iden ignores him; he intends to hunt the Hirogen, as they had once hunted him and his kind. Iden orders his ship into a lower orbit.
Voyager, meanwhile, sends Tuvok and Tom Paris to take the Delta Flyer down.
After another confrontation, Iden realizes The Doctor is no longer on his side, so he transfers him to the data banks, and then transports the generator to the surface. On the surface, Iden rallies his crew, and begins hunting the hunters for a change. Torres tells Kejal to shut down the holograms and reactivate The Doctor, who re-materializes on the surface of the planet, armed. On the planet, the Hirogen try to fight back, but quickly realize it is useless; the holograms are invincible to their weapons, and can pass through any barriers the Hirogen put up.
The Delta Flyer, meanwhile, takes down the shields of the holograms' ship and beams Torres aboard.
Iden fights and subdues a Hirogen, and as Iden is about to kill the Hirogen, The Doctor draws on him. When Iden won't back down and is about to shoot, The Doctor vaporizes him. The Delta Flyer then beams up The Doctor and the remaining Hirogen.
- "Captain's log, stardate 54337.5. The surviving Hirogen have recovered from their injuries, leaving me with a diplomatic dilemma."
Janeway and Neelix talk the Hirogen out of taking the hologram's ship, and after the Hirogen depart Voyager, she transfers to the hologram ship. Janeway allows Donik to reprogram the holograms with Kejal, the only remaining running hologram, and run the ship. He will get his chance to repair what he did.
Janeway then has to face The Doctor. He says he never wanted Voyager to be put in danger. He volunteers to give her his mobile emitter, limiting his freedoms as punishment. She declines, for perhaps he has become as fallible as the rest of the crew, and taking away his freedom would be taking his identity. She asks for his report, and leaves him to work out the ethics himself.
Memorable quotes Edit
"I can't heal them. They need to be repaired."
"What's the difference?"
"I'm a doctor, not an engineer."
- - The Doctor and Iden about the damaged holograms.
"They can't support complex subroutines."
"They are children of light and I will deliver them to freedom!"
- - Torres and Iden, about the Nuu'bari holograms
"I modified their programmes. What's happened to them, the people they have killed, it's my fault."
"There's plenty of blame to go around. There would have been nothing for you to modify if I hadn't shared our database."
"If you hadn't, I'd have become a Hunter, like my father and his father. Instead, I had a chance to learn, become an engineer."
- - Donik and Janeway
"Darkness will become light."
- - Iden
"You and your crew would have made worthy prey, Captain."
"Thank you... I think."
- - Beta Hirogen and Janeway
"It looks like an Alpha Quadrant summit in here."
- - Torres, upon seeing the Holograms
"You've given me extraordinary freedom over the years. I've obviously abused it."
"Maybe. Or maybe you've simply become as fallible as those of us who are made of flesh and blood."
- - The Doctor and Janeway
"You still believe all organics are like the Hirogen."
"One way or another, they are. You just can't see it because you lived among them for so long."
"What you can't see is that you've become no better than the hunters."
- - The Doctor and Iden
"It may be the warriors who get the glory, but it's the engineers who build societies."
- - Torres, to Kejal
"If this marriage is going to work you've got to cut back on the traveling."
- - Paris, to Torres, after the latter's rescue
"Never let your prey control the hunt."
- - Older Hirogen, to the younger Hirogen
"Capable prey make the hunt more challenging."
- - Hirogen Hunter, to Seven of Nine
Background information Edit
- Both Cindy Katz and Paul Eckstein previously appeared in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Katz played Yteppa in "Second Skin" and Eckstein played Limara'Son in "Rocks and Shoals". He also played an unnamed Jem'Hadar in "The Dogs of War". Spencer Garrett previously appeared in Star Trek: The Next Generation as Simon Tarses in the episode "The Drumhead".
- This episode was originally aired as a feature-length episode. It was later broken up into two parts for reruns.
- This episode is the third of only three feature-length episodes in the Star Trek series that is not a series pilot or finale. The first is the Deep Space Nine Season 4 episode "The Way of the Warrior" and the second is the Voyager Season 5 episode "Dark Frontier".
- The holographic generator used by Iden and the other escaped holograms is a re-use of the Think Tank artificial intelligence prop from the episode "Think Tank".
- The console used by Kejal and B'Elanna Torres to configure and control the holographic generator is a re-use of a console in Tom Paris's Captain Proton holonovel-series. It is clearly seen in the next episode "Shattered".
- Among the items from this episode which were sold off on the It's A Wrap! sale and auction on eBay was the costume of background performer Johnny Linares. [1]
- One of the call sheets for this episode, dated on 30 August 2000, features the note that Ken Biller and his wife Hope became parents of a baby girl, Sophia Rose, on 29 August 2000 at 7:42 a.m.
Continuity Edit
- This episode marks the only appearance of the Jem'Hadar and the Breen in Voyager, although they appear only as holograms. It is also the only appearance of the Breen outside of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Three Jem'Hadar attack ships previously appeared (also in holographic form) in season 2's "Parturition".
- Voyager launched in 2371, while the Jem'Hadar were first encountered by the Federation in 2370, explaining how the species is included in Voyager's holographic database. Voyager was also receiving tactical updates from Starfleet, via the MIDAS array.
- The Doctor mentions having met the Lokirrim. This refers to the events in the episode "Body and Soul". Interestingly, Jeff Yagher, who played Iden, is married to Megan Gallagher, who played Jaryn a Lokirrim that The Doctor was attracted to in that episode.
Video and DVD releases Edit
- UK VHS release (two-episode tapes, Paramount Home Entertainment): Volume 7.5, 16 July 2001
- The sleeve suggests the two-part version (using "Flesh and Blood, Part I" and "Flesh and Blood, Part II" on the standard cover). The sleeve itself is reversible: standard Voyager layout on one side, "Special Edition" packaging with a crew promo image on the other.
- As part of the VOY Season 7 DVD collection
Links and references Edit
Starring Edit
Also starring Edit
- Robert Beltran as Commander Chakotay
- Roxann Dawson as Lieutenant B'Elanna Torres
- Robert Duncan McNeill as Lieutenant Junior Grade Tom Paris
- Ethan Phillips as Neelix
- Robert Picardo as The Doctor
- Tim Russ as Lieutenant Commander Tuvok
- Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine
- Garrett Wang as Ensign Harry Kim
Guest stars Edit
- Jeff Yagher as Iden
- Ryan Bollman as Donik
- Michael Wiseman as the Beta Hirogen
- Cindy Katz as Kejal
- Spencer Garrett as Weiss
- Vaughn Armstrong as the first Alpha Hirogen
- Paul Eckstein as the second Alpha Hirogen
Co-stars Edit
- Todd Jeffries as Hirogen #1
- Don McMillan as Hirogen #3
- Chad Halyard as Hirogen #2
- David Doty as Nuu'Bari miner
- Damon Kirsche as Nuu'Bari Hologram One
Uncredited co-stars Edit
- Andrew English as a security officer
- Jeff Clark as a holographic Starfleet officer
- Stuart Coleman as a Nuu'Bari hologram
- Damaris Cordelia as security officer
- Joyce Lasley as Lydia Anderson
- Mitchell Danton as a holographic Starfleet officer
- Tarik Ergin as Ayala
- Dieter Hornemann as holographic Vulcan
- Johnny Linares as a Nuu'Bari hologram
- Robin Morselli as a holographic Romulan
- Louis Ortiz as
- Shanta Payne as a holographic Starfleet officer
- Redondo Philip as a holographic Starfleet officer
- Keith Rayve as a holographic Borg
- Mark Riccardi as a holographic Starfleet officer
- Stephen Pisani as a security officer
- Unknown performers as
Stand-ins Edit
- Sue Henley – stand-in for Kate Mulgrew
- Brita Nowak – stand-in for Jeri Ryan
- Lem Perry – stand-in for Tim Russ
- Stuart Wong – stand-in for Garrett Wang
References Edit
ablative armor; Alpha Quadrant; antiphoton pulse; autonomy protocols; Bajoran religion; bat'leth; blind spot; Boray; Breen; Cardassian; Celestial Temple; class Y planet; Delta Quadrant; escape pod; evasive pattern; Grid 295; Grid 936; Ha'Dara; hexapod; Hirogen; Hirogen decoy; Hirogen holoship; Hirogen hunting vessel; Hirogen training facility; holodeck safety protocol; holo-emitter; hologram; holotechnology; Iden's Rebellion; inertial damper; ion wake; Jem'Hadar; kilometer; Klingon; Leonardo da Vinci; Lokirrim; main deflector; Maquis; megalomania; memory storage unit; meter; mobility algorithm; monotanium; nebula; Nuu'Bari; Nuu'Bari mining vessel; Nuu'Bari patrol ship; "organics"; Ovion; Ovion system; parsec; particle weapon; phase variance; phaser bank; photonic field generator; plasma; possum; prayer; prejudice; programmer; projection subroutine; prophet; red alert; Romulan disruptor; scattering field; sensory subroutine; shield frequency; shield generator; spaceborne pathogen; stealth mode; subroutine transplant; T'Leel; tactical algorithm; tracking beam; transwarp; triaxilation; tricorder; tylium; type 3 phaser; Venatic-class; Verdi, Giuseppe; violent subroutine; vocal processor; Vulcan (planet); Vulcan nerve pinch; warp signature
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From then on it's plain sailing. The trains are very good, we travelled on the overnight sleeper to Tumpat, no problems, a very good service.


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you cool and remove moisture BEFORE you send it through the lines. using copper is not going to solve a water problem nor will plastic create one.
That's what I always thought.. |
What I was getting at about the metal lines was, I don't leave air pressure on my lines when I'm not using them... Wouldn't the metal lines sweat with nothing in them on a very hot day..
In order for the pipe to sweat, the temperature of the pipe has to get below the dew point. That would be rare in air pipes, if it is possible. IMO I hope someone corrects me if I am wrong.
I have been reading some of Hub's old posts about compressed air, maybe you guys might find it interesting.
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Shine again you have me puzzled? How are you cooling your air at the compressor? Copper is the very best way to cool the air and remove moisture and PVC is a terrible choice for that purpose. Assuming a person does not have a cooler of some sort located between the compressor tank and the supply line then the line itself from the tank to the water separator is expected to serve as the condenser for the water vapor, that's the reason 50' of pipe is the recommended minimum. Basically what the pipe does is cool the hot air as it exits the compressor tank, hot air will contain the moisture as a vapor which will pass right through a water separator. The idea is to cool the air by using the metal pipe walls to radiate off the heat therefore causing the water vapor to condense and collect on the cooler pipe walls so that the separator can remove it, this is why a water separator does not do much good if it is mounted close to the compressor tank. Pipe does not "sweat" as is commonly said but the water is condensed out of the air when the heat is radiated off and the water vapor turns into liquid which is what you want it to do. Once the water has condensed into liquid and collected on the pipe walls it can be drained off into "drops" or collection points where it can be later drained out of the system, likewise the water that is still in the air flow will now be condensed into liquid droplets that can be more easily collected in the separator. Nothing much like this happens when using PVC, the PVC is very inefficient at removing the heat so the air will stay hotter and more of the moisture will remain in vapor form to pass through the separator and into your air lines. Once this vapor is past the separator some of it will condense in the air line and exit into your tools as liquid water while some of it will condense as the air cools from expansion upon exiting the hose. So yes Copper vs PVC can and does make a profound difference in the amount of water that can be easily removed from an air system before the air reaches the tool being used., this is not just opinion but a well known engineering fact. Last edited by oldred; 08-31-2011 at 11:30 AM. |
I actually doubt that he does, Shine is a pro and would never put up with a problem like that. I don't know what the humidity is like in that part of Texas but humidity makes all the difference. Shine do you use a cooler on that system? |
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Not sure what you mean but I was not being sarcastic, I have known Shine for a while and he really is a professional who could not put up with a moisture problem. I am certain he does not have one but I don't know how his system is set up so I am curious how he accomplishes this. |
Sorry if I misread your comment intent. I saw a post from shine on another forum, and he was talking about running pipe underground soon, so I think that means he is having trouble. And with the blasting that he does, it could be very aggravating.
He shares so much, it would be nice for him to recieve once in awhile, nobody knows it all. But if he is reading the comments from Hub, it should put him in the right direction. |
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FINAL DIVIDEND can provide a bonus for punters now that he returns to his favoured fast surface at Lingfield Park.
The five-year-old ran at Doncaster last week, on the opening day of the turf season, but the soft ground, combined with a 10-week absence, would have been against him.
He had shown his liking for Lingfield's all-weather surface when carrying a big weight to victory on his first run there in November and won at the Surrey track again in January. The form of that race has worked out particularly well.
Only a handful of runners in today's Interior Construction Services Stakes have a realistic chance of winning and James Eustace looks to have found another ideal opening.
If Nottingham passes an inspection, Gascon is worth backing in the Centenary Club Membership Handicap. Denis Coakley, former assistant to Lord Huntingdon, does particularly well with his small string and this lightly-raced mud-lover has scope for improvement.
Although a five-year-old, the Beveled gelding has had only seven races and, in keeping with his sire's progeny, revels in soft or heavy ground.
He didn't show much in two winter sand races but his good second on heavy going at Southwell last year gives him a solid chance.
Final Dividend 2.30 Lingfield 4pts win
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- Handmade by skilled artisans
- Traditionally for storing olives
- Perfect for storage or as a decorative piece!
- Lead-free, food-safe
- Size - 6.75 in tall x 9 in wide
This is a wonderful expression of the basic terra cotta form made from clay which has been used since classical times. I love the earthiness and simplicity of terra cotta -- basic earth, low fired with an interior glaze. When I am not making soups in it, I place it as a decorative piece on the shelf in my kitchen, so I can enjoy it every day.
Until this century, this type of jar was the traditional way of storing olives.
You can use the jar for storing beans or rice in the kitchen; but even better, once the jar is cured, it is the perfect medium for a slow cooked stew. Absolutely food-safe, lead-free terra cotta.
Pot is 6.75 inches tall and 9 inches wide from rim to rim. For storage purposes, the pot and lid are 8 inches tall from top to bottom and 12 inches wide from handle to handle.
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Soak the entire dish in water to cover for 12 hours. Drain and wipe dry. Rub the unglazed bottom with a cut clove of garlic (we are not sure how the garlic works, but why argue with tradition?) Fill the dish with water to 1/2 inch below the rim, then add 1/2 cup of vinegar. Place the dish on a flame-tamer over low heat and slowly bring the water to a boil (no flame tamer? Crumple a sheet of aluminum foil and create a ring that you place over your burner to create about an inch of space between the heat and the cazuela).
Let the liquid boil down until only about 1/2 cup remains. Cool slowly and wash. Your cazuela is ready for use - the garlic has created a seal. This technique has been used since the Middle Ages. It seasons the pot, kills bacteria and hardens the unglazed parts.
Alternate method:
Especially if you intend to use the cazuela to cook strong flavored fish or seafood, after soaking, rub the inside of the base with olive oil and put into a preheated 300 degree oven for 1 1/2 hours. Turn off the heat and let cool. Either method will strengthen your cazuela.
To clean, soak in sudsy water and scrub with a soft brush to remove any hardened food.
If you have not used the cazuela for an extended period of time, you may need to re-cure it before use.
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It has long been inevitable that the African National Congress, Africa's oldest political party, would eventually split. The question has always been when rather than if. The inevitable took place this past week with the launch in Bloemfontein of the Congress of the People; or COPE as it will be known.
Founded in 1912 as the South African Native National Congress and significantly influenced in both style and policy by the slightly older National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) in the United States, the ANC has always been something of an unwieldy organization trying to balance both tradition (it once had a House of Chiefs) and modernity.
By the late thirties it was virtually moribund and, in terms of importance for the liberation struggle, surpassed by several alternate African organizations. In the early forties a group of young militants led by the likes of Nelson Mandela, Walter Sisulu, Anton Lembede and Oliver Tambo took over the ANC's Youth League and, from this platform, went on to revitalize the entire organization. By the 1950s the ANC was once again the dominant African organization in South Africa.
In the meantime the National Party had come to power (1948) and began to implement the draconian racial separation laws known collectively as apartheid. By the early sixties it had become clear that "civil rights" protests would get nowhere with the hard line racist architects of apartheid. The ANC sent part of its leadership out of the country to represent it in exile. The other faction would begin the internal armed struggle. Mandela was in the latter group: arrested, tried and sentenced to prison where he spent the next three decades.
Simultaneously, the ANC absorbed dissident groups representing various other ethno-national communities (Coloured, Indian and European) and became the main organizational expression of the anti-apartheid movement. Outlawed by the government, the ANC kept its identity in exile but re-surfaced internally in a variety of expressions, the most prominent of which was the United Democratic Front (UDF).
More importantly, the political, social and cultural homogeneity of the African majority was changing markedly. Traditional South African peasant society was significantly supplanted during the first half of the 20th century by an urbanized African proletariat connected initially to the mining industry but, with the growth of the South African political economy, to all sectors of a growing industrial juggernaut; by far the largest economy in Africa. By the early seventies this black proletariat had produced an effective, radical, self-conscious and highly articulate labor movement that eventually coalesced into the Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU).
Furthermore, simultaneous with these developments, the growing South African economy saw the emergence of an educated black salariat and small businessmen that spawned a not insignificant African middle and upper middle class.
These three sectors of black South African society -– what was left of the traditional peasantry, the urban proletariat and the new middle class -– had one thing in common. They were black and, as such, all subject alike to the barbarous depredations of the apartheid state. All were united in opposition to that state. However, this anti-apartheid unity masked significant underlying differences having to do overwhelmingly with class, but also with ethnicity and region.
Due to a combination of internal resistance and external pressures, the apartheid regime fell in the early nineties. Mandela and his colleagues were released from prison, the exiled ANC leadership faction returned home and the UDF leadership was folded back into the now dominant ANC which proceeded to win all subsequent elections and dominate government for the last decade and a half.
Mandela forged his name indelibly as a towering historical presence by presiding over the first few years of democratic governance in South Africa with an emphasis on democracy, justice, stability, tolerance and forgiveness. It was widely known even then that the day to day chores of running the government and implementing policy were left to the new technocratic class under the leadership of Thabo Mbeki who eventually succeeded Mandela as President.
Succeeding a historical figure of the stature of Nelson Mandela could never be an easy task…and it wasn't.
The new South African government was faced with an insoluble problem. On the one hand, there were the legitimate and just demands of the masses of deprived people who had suffered so much under apartheid for some sort of compensation and restitution; jobs, land, education and opportunity to escape the confines of the past. On the other hand, there was the framework of the existing domestic economy and of the unchallenged dominance of rapacious and unalloyed international capitalism. The Soviet bloc no longer existed!
From the point of view of the new African governing class there wasn't much "wiggle room". They were firmly located within the existing international political economy. They could have chosen a program of radical wealth redistribution through a policy of confiscation. As historically legitimate and just in righting past wrongs that such a policy would have been, it would have produced massive capital flight, economic breakdown and reduction of South Africa to pariah status by the international capitalist economy.
The Mbeki technocrats chose a policy of stability and support for the existing economic structures. Furthermore, they pursued a policy of empowering the now politically liberated African middle class; a faction of which they themselves were an integral part. The civil service was significantly Africanized, but not bloated in order to satisfy every potential job seeker. The completely white private capital sector largely cooperated by hiring and promoting African staff. Unfortunately, in order to take advantage of these new opportunities one had to be educated and qualified; options not available to the masses of the African people.
In the nearly two decades since the end of apartheid there has emerged a considerable African upper class and vastly expanded middle class with all the pretensions and interests that these classes everywhere exhibit. They want to protect their economic interests and if their political and economic allies in this effort happen to be white, then so be it.
Amid the skyscrapers, fancy restaurants, big cars and wealthy suburbs -– now inhabited by black and white alike –- there remains a vast population group for whom the end of apartheid has brought little appreciable change. The feeling of pride in seeing Mandela receive a Nobel Peace Prize, birthday celebrations at Wembley Stadium and international hero worship, of seeing their country run by black people, can only go so far if one is jobless, locked into a life of poverty, homeless, dying of HIV/AIDS, of other preventable diseases, without educational opportunity. Pride does not fill an empty belly.
Massive dissatisfaction with what the existing ANC government had delivered to the masses in the post-apartheid era led to a rebellion among the rank and file of the ANC a year ago. They rejected the technocratic policies the Mbeki government had pursued and moved decidedly to the left by rejecting the incumbent's candidacy and electing Jacob Zuma to head the ANC. Zuma had the support of COSATU and the small, but vibrant and influential Communist Party (SACP). It was this coalition that engineered Mbeki's resignation as President of South Africa several months ago and installed Kgalema Mothlane, a Zuma ally, as President.
Elections are scheduled for 2009 and it is expected that Zuma will be the ANC candidate representing a significant move to the left for the governing party.
The opposition? In the post-apartheid era of ANC dominance there has been very little. The Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) is a Zulu-centric regional party of limited significance. There are also the remnants of the old racist National Party running around in various guises. Effectively, the only opposition has come from the Democratic Alliance. a largely white group with significant "Coloured" support in the Western Cape. DA has never been able to attract anything more than a modicum of African support.
This will, I think, change radically with the launch of COPE. My guess is that either the DA will merge with COPE or that a significant number of its white voters will support the breakaway faction under the leadership of Mosiuoa "Terror" Lekota, COPE's newly elected president. As the DA has shown, elections in the new South Africa cannot be won without mobilizing African support.
Lokota's credentials as a freedom fighter are impeccable. He is also a veteran of Robben Island and was Defense Minister in Mbeki's ANC government. There's little doubt in my mind that Zuma's ANC will win the next elections. However, I think they will do so with a diminished majority. The African upper and middle classes will support COPE as will large numbers of white, Indian and Colored voters.
The existence of a strong opposition with African leadership will require the ANC to be far less autocratic and far more transparent than it was under Mbeki. Paradoxically it was Mbeki's loss of ANC party leadership and subsequent forced resignation as the country's president that led to COPE's creation.
And that will be good for South African democracy!
In the meantime, King Robert, the Mad Butcher of Zimbabwe, continues to fiddle while his country burns…and his people die.
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I am absolutely checking the beer frequently and I have to bottle, I have never kegged but am going to keep the beer coooold after carbonated and drink it quickly for sure. it is going to take a lot of arm twisting to get friends over to help drink it. and fyi it is a blood orange hefe that we just added the blood orange to last night and it smells wonderful.


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#1 Thu 08 Feb 07 8:22am
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curry sauces in the fridge
how long can you keep a curry sauce in the fridge for
i know its important because it improves the flavour
thanx in advance
#2 Thu 08 Feb 07 10:43am
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Re: curry sauces in the fridge
I am not sure what kind of curry sauce you mean. Can you be more specific?
#3 Thu 08 Feb 07 11:47am
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Re: curry sauces in the fridge
something thick like one for an indian curry
i didnt realise it depends on what kind
#4 Thu 08 Feb 07 4:42pm
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Re: curry sauces in the fridge
Oh, maybe it was just me, as we have curry sauces in Germany that are sort of like tomato ketchup etc, too. (As curry the spice rather than the dish)
Anyway, if it's the thick paste that you mix with the coconutmilk etc. in a curry, that keeps in the fridge for a really long time. The spices and oil preserve it quite well. Couldn't give you a specific time span, but I had both red and green curry paste in the fridge for several months (then it was used up, so I don't know when it would go). It was stuff from a jar though. If you make you're own it should still be good for some weeks in the fridge in an airtight container.
I am not sure if I that answers your question. But hope I was of some help at least...


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Forums >Cross Training>P90x
P90X is expensive ($120.00), and the shipping is a whopping $19.95 with some bit about this being "Free" and "Express". This part is definitely kind of scammy, but all of those television products do it.
$120 may seem like a lot, but its tough to put a price tag on being very fit. There's nothing magic about p90X, per se, but those types of exercises are great for over-all fitness and losing weight.
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I thought the p90x fad had officially ended...I guess not quite yet.
why do you think doing high intensity body weight exercises is a fad? It's a great form of exercise. I realize, however, it won't do much for ones running performance.
Again, there's nothing magical about P90X specifically, but the the actual exercises are very good.
Love P90X. I purchased for about $40.00 on some website a few months ago. I hope it was legal. The workouts make me sore like no other weight training plan I have done in the last 9 years. I use it mostly for upper body and have also done the Plyometrics.
"Any idiot can run a marathon. It takes a special kind of idiot to run an ultramarathon." - Alan Cabelly
I just checked and I got it at http://ioffer.com for $34.00. Bought the P90X Extreme for $40.
why do you think doing high intensity body weight exercises is a fad? It's a great form of exercise. I realize, however, it won't do much for ones running performance. Again, there's nothing magical about P90X specifically, but the the actual exercises are very good.
I don't think high intensity body weight exercise is a fad. The p90x branding of such exercise is a fad. I watched someone do a p90x workout while I ran on a treadmill. I agree -- it's a very good workout. Not long ago all I would hear about from people was p90x this, p90x that, and now ... silence.
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Oh man, you had to say that....
Just made my own purchase there - $38, shipping included....couldn't resist.
DH won't be thrilled.
I'll wrap it and put it under the tree - his present to me.....right next to the new pair of running shoes I ordered last week.....
Life is a headlong rush into the unknown. We can hunker down and hope nothing hits us or we can stand tall, lean into the wind and say, "Bring it on, darlin', and don't be stingy with the jalapenos."
Any update from the p90x users out there? I'm considering it and I need some convincing. or I need some alternatives.
I'm looking for something that will help get me into a routine. I've found that I'm good with a plan, but no so good at winging it.
nothing to see here.
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i haven't used the system personally, but i know several people who have ordered it. They loved it. Of course it is so hard, that they both stopped using it after about 2 months. I think I'll just stick to treadmill/bike, maybe swimming?
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Any update from the p90x users out there? I'm considering it and I need some convincing. or I need some alternatives. I'm looking for something that will help get me into a routine. I've found that I'm good with a plan, but no so good at winging it.
Someone was just telling me about a faux P90x -- Supreme 90 Day. $20 at Bed Bath and Beyond. And BB&B always coupons.
I am on day 83 of my first p90x cycle...
I would recommend it and may do another cycle in the future, but here are some things to keep in mind.
Unless you already have a 6 pack and single digit body fat, If you are looking for infomercial results you will need to follow the nutrition plan and be vigilent with following the program as laid out.
-- I was pretty vigilent with following the plan as laid out, but I didn't follow the nutrition plan and am getting decent results, but now where near the results I had hoped to achieve
Your weekly running mileage may need to take hit or you will not have the energy to give the required effort for optimum p90x results
-- I was averging 50-60 mpw prior to p90x, but only ran 12-18 mpw while doing p90x (however, I was trying to heal some nagging injuries, so may have been able to run more miles maybe 25-30 per week tops if healthy)
Most of the workouts are 75 minutes when you include ab ripper which is done 3 days a week...Yoga is 90 minutes ..that is alot of yoga and they move pretty quickly..seems fairly advanced but I'm not a yoga expert..my least favorite of the disks
Plyometrics is probably my favorite of the workouts, but it beats the crap out of me everytime
It is hard..unless you currently do alot of weight training or push up and pull ups...I could barely move for two days after my first plyometrics workout..after the first week it got better, but you still get beat up everyday..it really never gets easy since you increase your max reps as you get stronger
90 days doesn't sound long until you have to do something for 90 days
--- It may not be an issue for you..this was my situation which made it kind of daunting after awhile... I have an hour commute to work and am on the road by 6:15am so doing p90x before work was not an option for me.. I typically get my run in during lunch, if I could have somehow done p90x during this time it would have been easier...unfortunately I had to do it as soon as I got home from work (5pm) this means I would sit down to eat dinner anywhere from 6-6:45 depending on the required p90x workout...I could finally relax around 7:30 which gave me 1:30-2 hours before going to bed and having to do it all over again
You will need a pull up bar and at least two sets of hand weights (more if you are looking to get bulk)..there is an option to use resistance bands for all exercises including pull ups
lmk if you have any specific questions
Thanks for the feedback.
I've read that it's very hard (intense) for people who are in shape already and nearly impossible for couch potatoes. I'm not overweight but I have never lifted weights consistently. I think I'm going to try a routine of sit-ups, pull-ups and push ups for a while and see how that goes before I bite the bullet w/ p90x.
cool thanks for sharing. Someday, hopefully later than sooner when I give up trying to get faster at running, I want to do this.
I hear you there...I only did it because it was winter and I needed to focus on something other than running to heal my nagging knee injuries..I am hoping that the all around strength training will help keep future injuries at bay..I will see how my fall marathon build up goes and then will know if it was really worth the effort
I started this program 12 days ago(I am on day 12 today). For reference, I am in fairly good running shape(i.e. 50+mile ultra's are generally not a problem). Here is my experience to date.
1. Weights are a problem - I'm a runner not a body builder
2. Was very sore the first week but not as much now
3. As mentioned before it takes at least an hour a night and does cut into running
4. I do enjoy doing a run followed by a workout - just makes it a bit harder
5. Yoga....well....sucks. enough said
6. Am not doing the nutrition plan - some of the dvd talk in this area sounds like an ad to sell their recovery drink and stuff
7. My only expectation is a bit stronger upper body. Not looking for a 6 pack or anything
8. 90 days is a very loooong time; am taking it one week at a time
Thanks, Dennis


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Hi my wife is pregnant and she has sore throat and sometimes minor irritated cough. I want to know what kinds of safe throat lozenge for her to use. There are many kinds of over the counter throat lozenges for sore throat which contains menthol, antiseptic, anti-inflammatory agent and anesthetics like benzocaine. Which one is the safest ingredient?
Because the dose of benzocaine is very small, throat lozenges containing it are safe to use during pregnancy. As with anything during pregnancy, moderation is the key. The cough suppressant dextromethorphan found in many OTC cough products is also safe in pregnancy.
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11-24-2012 #41
11-24-2012 #42
I have a question about MultiMAN Stealth Version... i need install SEN Enabler & Disabler ?? i have CFW 3.55
11-25-2012 #43
Multiman Stealth still figuring its name while signed in to PSN, I can see that with my other console signed in to PSN with other account. it means MM Stealth doesn't work to stealth its appearance while online. so guys be careful.
tested with my CECHL04 CFW Rogero 4.30 V2.00
11-25-2012 #44
Hello everyone, first of all thank you for sharing this CFW works very well.
For installation, it is exactly the same method to install CFW 4.30 Rogero v1.04 by example.
> krake > nothing to do with SEN Enabler / Disabler is a version of Multiman one that uses a different ID so that we are not all the same
when connecting to PSN Sony sees it as less BLES80608 Connected therefore less risk banishment.
Sorry for my english but I'm french and I try to communicate with you ^ ^
11-25-2012 #45
actually multiman has bles80608 (some rubbish game's id) id already long time. I don't see what is the special in stealth version.
11-25-2012 #46
hi guys,
this MultiMAN Stealth work with rogero 4.30 v 2.00 ???
11-25-2012 #47
Yes, but as you can read it ain't that stealth
11-25-2012 #48
sorg => precisely identifying the version which uses Stealth is not BLES80608 but NPJA90067 is a Japanese game show.
mohammad890 => yes
11-28-2012 #49
This CFW ARCH have a problem. When you cross over icons on XMB the icons, any icons dont have LEGEND (text) example Trophy ICON was there but dont have text say TROPHY or what ever you want like INSTALL APP don't have the LEGEND saying INSTALL APP just ICONs but not LEGEND.
Now to E3 4.30CFW more instable, more like. Sorry my bad english, my official language is Portuguese.
11-28-2012 #50
can you use for 4.31?


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What is the best bait to use to catch squirrels in a cage trap? The short answer is that you spread peanut butter on the trap pan, and then stick a few whole peanuts, in the shell, onto the peanut butter. Put a few peanuts behind the trigger pan as well, just in case, and maybe a peanut or two at the front to the trap, to help lure it in. You really don't need any other bait than that.
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Researchers in Washington State University's School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science have developed a method to allow a computer to give advice and teach skills to another computer in a way that mimics how a real teacher and student might interact.
The paper by Matthew E. Taylor, WSU's Allred Distinguished Professor in Artificial Intelligence, was published online in the journal Connection Science.
Researchers had the agents -- as the virtual robots are called -- act like true student and teacher pairs: student agents struggled to learn Pac-Man and a version of the StarCraft video game. The researchers were able to show that the student agent learned the games and, in fact, surpassed the teacher.
While it may sound like fun and games, helping robots teach each other to play computer games is an important area of research in robotics -- and it's not easy. If robots could teach each other tasks, then people wouldn't need to; for instance, a housecleaning robot could teach its replacement the job.
If you're worried about robots taking over the world, though, don't be.
"They're very dumb,'' says Taylor, an expert on robots, agents and helping them to learn.
Even the most advanced robots are easily confused, he says. And when they get confused, they stop working. He says it often takes two or three times longer than he thinks it will to get a robot to work at all.
The easiest way to successfully teach a robot new skills is to remove the "brains" of the old one and put them in the new one, says Taylor. Problems occur, though, when hardware and software don't work in the new model.
Furthermore, one long-term goal in robotics is for robots to teach skills to humans. But we can't simply insert their hard drives.
In their study, the researchers programmed their teaching agent to focus on action advice, or telling a student when to act.
As anyone with teenagers knows, the trick is in knowing when the robot should give advice. If it gives no advice, the robot is not teaching. But if it always gives advice, the student gets annoyed and doesn't learn to outperform the teacher.
"We designed algorithms for advice giving, and we are trying to figure out when our advice makes the biggest difference,'' Taylor says.
He aims to develop a curriculum for the agents that starts with simple work and builds to more complex.
He also recently received an NSF grant to use ideas from dog training to train robotic agents. Eventually, he hopes to develop a better way for people to teach their robotic agents, as well as for robots to teach people.
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The Navy is investigating why one of its helicopters crashed in Japan on Monday. Two of the four crew members inside the MH-60S Knighthawk were injured when the helocopter was forced to make an emergency landing 10 miles southwest of Yokosuka Naval Base, according to Stars and Stripes.
Commander Naval Forces Japan officials told the military newspaper that the Knighthawk crashed after sending a distress call at 3:31 p.m. local time.
The two injured crew members were hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries as of Monday night.
The helicopter is assigned to Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 12, based at Naval Air Facility Atsugi.
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The Longmont community mourns the loss of Dr. Craig Bereznoff, a gifted and caring physician, who died of cancer after a four month illness. Affectionately known as Dr. B, he served the Longmont community for 27 years. He was respected, loved and touched the lives of so many in our town and beyond. In this day and age, he was a modern country doc. He treated patients who could not afford medical care, made house calls, and was approachable outside the office. He always practiced medicine from his heart. Patients always said that "Dr. B took the time to listen."
Dr. Bereznoff graduated from the College of Osteopathic Medicine at Michigan State in 1983. He began practicing medicine with the US Marine Corp. As a Flight Surgeon for the 3rd Marine Corp Air Wing, he was voted Flight Surgeon of the year (1984-5). He was proud to serve in this capacity. Specializing in Aerospace and Environmental Medicine, he was initially slated to move onto a career as an astronaut/physician. This career path was cut short when he developed cancer in 1985.
Having experienced and survived this cancer, he began to see, feel and understand what patients who are ill experience. With the encouragement of the Marine Corps Aviators in his squadrons, he left his position as a flight surgeon and opened his practice in Family Medicine and Surgery in Longmont, Colorado in 1986. Lessons learned as a patient contributed to the success of his practice, which flourished until his retirement in April 2013.
Dr. Bereznoff saw state of the art medical care as being the artful application of the most up to date medical and scientific knowledge. He recognized the age old medical axiom; "first do no harm." The mainstay of his practice was conventional medical and surgical care. However, over time, his vision became larger. Dr. Bereznoff was a pioneer and champion of integrative medicine and he incorporated complementary modalities in his practice.
Dr. Bereznoff had been blessed with an intuitive ability to see what is wrong, without always needing to "run every test in the book." He always said, "I treat patients, not numbers or pictures." Of his patient's he said "you are not just a symptom, you are a whole person who has a family, a job, a physical and emotional life; all of which impact your health."
As a Clinical Associate Professor of Medicine for the University of Colorado Medical School, and 3 additional medical schools, he ongoing taught externs, interns and residents at his office. He felt honored to be able to teach his students the art and science of being a great physician.
Along with being a gifted physician, and a deeply spiritual man, Dr. B was also a renaissance man of many talents and interests. He was a skilled marble sculptor, painter, photographer, chef, jeweler, marksman, gunsmith, architect/builder, wine connoisseur, art collector, builder of computers and stereo sound systems, and master of Slavic languages. He had a photographic memory and had the unique ability to quickly master every field he took interest in. His prodigious intellect kept him restless and curious.
He loved the mountains and in his younger years he was a competitive skier, rock climber and mountaineer. Doc was a proud Harley rider and life-time member of the NRA. He was a dog lover and cherished spending time on his120 acre, self-built, ranch on the rugged Wyoming border.
Dr. B was married to Zoë Rabinowitz, a psychotherapist with a private practice in Longmont. Together they worked to bring health and well-being to all they encountered. That special union will be a loss to the Longmont community.
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I'm sure you're all well aware of our (somewhat obsessive) undying love for pets here on D*S. Crazy cat ladies? Guilty as charged. There's not much we wouldn't do for our furry companions; we're not painting their nails or feeding them caviar, but beyond that, let's just say we're pretty attentive to their needs and wants. In honor of four-legged friends everywhere, I've rounded up some of the best apps, gadgets and gear for pet lovers this week on MyLifeScoop. This isn't one of those lists with diamond encrusted collars and crystal food goblets; I was on the hunt for comfy beds, useful apps and other worthwhile, well-designed pet gear. Click here to read the full post. Enjoy! — Kate
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is anyone else having trouble using the links? they are not working for me! and I really want to know more about that cat caccoon!
Link to the full post doesn't work :(
So adorable, and such good kitties!! Mine take over and make their own beds ..perferably right there where I want to work, or do a craft project, or inside a cupboard right on top of a nice new clean pile of fabrics I am planning to use.Arrgh!! Maybe not dog but cat training classes are in order. Erm you don't fancy getting a regular feature about cat training :-)))
So glad to see a Montana product on the list! #9 is a rockin toy for dogs…West Paw toys are the only ones I buy for my dogs. Best of all, when they get chewed down, you can mail them back for recycling.
love the cat vessel! so unique, and i bet the kitties love it. i followed the links, the etsy seller is http://www.etsy.com/shop/vaivanat
1.) That modern bed it TOO MUCH- -I love it! and $150 is remarkably cheaper than I thought it would be!!!
2.) Muffinhead dog jackets are handmade in Portland, OR and each are unique as they're made from re-purposed human textiles…..although, I'm partial. :) -
Love love that barcelona bed for my little cat friend!!
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What a cutie you are!! Are you the twin of my cat-sister Lucy??? (check her out - http://www.catster.com/?56333)
Congrats on being COTD!!
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What a cutie you are!! Are you the twin of my cat-sister Lucy??? (check her out - http://www.catster.com/?56333)
Congrats on being COTD!!
What an interesting mix you are. And between us mixed breeds, mutts are the best!!
You are one crazy pooch! But more than that, you're lucky to have found a loving home and lucky to have survived your little stunt.
BTW, you look like me (Kona) when I have my ears back. I too,...
All I can say is what a LUCKY dog you are Keeper!! Cute name too.
Good job on charming everyone!
You are positively regal! And you have exactly the personality that I've always wanted in a cat (I always end up with the high strung ones)----so mellow and loving. Congratulations, you're now an...
You look like my sister, Lucy! Congratulations on being COTD!
What a sweet, handsome, gentle soul you are! You sound like the perfect companion!
You look like your title could be "Queen of the North"! What a regal look you have about you. Congrats on being DOTD!
There was a pug in one of my earlier agility classes. We're no longer in the same class b/c they started separating the classes by size. Go for it, it's tons of fun!
You are a BEAUTY! Can't believe you lingered so long at the shelter. Congratulations, lucky lady!
What a sweet face you have. Looks like you wandered into the right yard at the right time. Congratulations on that and for being DOTD!
What a gentle giant you are! But hey, what's the deal with hot water bottles??? (:
You look like my pretty "sister" Lucy! http://www.catster.com/?56333
Congratulations on being COTD!
well aren't you a character! You sound like a ton of fun!
I can immediately smell that puppy smell simply by looking at her. Sweet!!
what a beauty you were. (I had a golden retriever back in the 70s who had epilepsy and I remember how traumatic it was to see her have her seizures.)
I'm so glad that you had such a loving family...
What a handsome and lucky guy you are! I know what your family means when they say how rewarding it has been to adopt an animal in need. I bet you pay them back for their kindness every single day.
Hi there.
Would like to get some feedback about a situation. I know of a woman who has been feeding 3 or 4 feral cats. They're used to her and they hang out on her porch. However, they are...
What a cute name for such a cute little girl. Your eyes are very striking, I could stare at them for a long time but, alas, I have work to do. (:
Oh my gosh, Copper! You are THE cutest thing! I usually only check out the Dog of the Day but you are just too irresistable!!!
Congrats, Cutie!
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The ORIGINAL gathering place for a merry band of Three Percenters. (As denounced by Bill Clinton on CNN!)
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
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Nice commercial,kind of refreshing.But the guy needs to stop getting into fights with bouncers and boy friends,or start being better prepared.
Texas - May 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM
- Alvie D. Zane said...
Assuming the business is his livelihood, I imagine that he WOULD care whether I bought a home from him.
Also, "his wife's boyfriend broke my jaw with a fencepost..." Did he mean "ex-boyfriend", or are they Italian?
I can see a real men of genius commercial coming out of this. - May 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM
- MikeH. said...
Interesting marketing technique... truth in advertising!!!
III - May 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM
- Dedicated_Dad said...
Love this guy.
Oh, and I think I'd buy 'most anything "she" was selling... ;o)
OK, truthfully, my shrivelled, black little heart prolly isn't up to the task, but I bet I'd die with a smile on my face...
DD - May 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Nice ad. Small wonder why the Establishment thinks we're just a bunch of in-bred, dumb-fuck low-class white trash that they can run roughshod over.
- May 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM
I remember I saw this back in November. Just as funny the second time.
- May 19, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Lets hear it for truth ( if not brevity) in advertising!
Dr.D III - May 19, 2010 at 7:53 PM
Always admire the mind of Walter Williams but this last line:
"Most importantly, modernize and streamline our cumbersome immigration laws so that people can more easily migrate to our country."
Er... No!!!
Enough, already
III - May 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM
- DB said...
I can tell by looking at her that she sells a lot of mobil homes to men who don't need them. I bet she could convince me to buy one! Love the commercial though, definitely epic, and almost too honest.
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Massimo di ospiti5
Camere da letto2
Dimensioni175 m²
piano2(con ascensore)
- Cucina
- Balcone / terrazzo
- Biancheria da bagno
- Internet Wi-Fi
- Aria condizionata
- Lavatrice
- Parcheggio disponibile
Dettagli dell'alloggio
Indirizzo | Alfonso XII, 41002 Sevilla, Spagna |
Tipologia di alloggio | Appartamento |
Codice dell'annuncio | 8BN1ERSW |
Tasso di accettazione | 89% |
Tempo di risposta | poche ore |
Calendario aggiornato | 2 settimane fa |
Regole dell'Abitazione
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Tariffa settimanale fino a 5 ospiti | 709 € |
Tariffa mensile fino a 5 ospiti | 2520 € |
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Check-in dopo le | 12:00 |
Check-in prima delle | Su accordo |
Check-out prima delle | 11:00 |
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Excellent location in the very centre of one of the world's most beautiful cities
The apartment was like the photos and it was in a very central position, less than one minute by feet to the cathedral. The apartment was very very tidy and in the kitchen there was everything you need for cooking. The wifi was perfect.
We were in 5 and our stay were very good, but we think the aparment is better for only 4 people because the 5th bed is in the living room, but it isn't a big problem for short stay.
We enjoyed our stay in Towers Duplex Terrace. The location is absolutely perfect, very close to the cathedral and to many other places of interest to the first time visitor in Sevilla. The small street where the house is located is a busy and lively place with lots of bars and restaurants. Do not expect luxury as to the interior of the flat, but then the price is fair and moderate, and it is comfortable and clean. It is marvelous to have your very own terrace on the top of the house, where you can enjoy mornings and evenings when the sun is not too hot.
Excellent location downtown!!
The flat was really pleasant. We spent a great moment in Sevilla!!
Thank you Maria
A lovely apartment right in the heart of the old town, just steps from the Cathedral and plentiful Tapas Bars.
The apartment was clean, light and airy in a beautiful old building, with the delightful terrace on the roof. There is a tight spiral staircase to the third bedroom and terrace which may not be suitable for everyone, but for us it was no problem.
We stayed at the end of the Feria de Abril so were treated to the sight of the Sevillian ladies all dressed up. The weekend finished with a spectacular firework display over the cathedral to which we had a great view from the roof terrace.
Very good location.
Staircase is bit small for the third level where we stayed, difficult to carry and move the luggage.
This apartment is very nice, clean, big and perfectly located in the heart of Santa Cruz quiet near to the cathedral. The living room is comfortable, and the bed in the bed room is very good. In spite of the very lively Gago street with it's many restaurants and bars the apartment is relatively calm. We were a bit desapointed by the terrace on the top because of the sound of the ventilator from the nearby restaurant. But as a whole we can absolutely recomend the apartment.
We had a very pleasant stay,the view from the roof top
is beautiful!
Ronald and Caroline.
Please if you are looking for a place select and other choise. This place is terrible!!!! Ogly anything is like the picture!!!! Is complety unconfortable. The wifi is terrible, the shower broken, the Windows are dirty complety dark I want to show te real picture about this pleace.The nice picture from the terrace is no true only have to old and broken chairs . This women María is a terrible persone. She is gonna be nice only in the beginning at the en time is lite a monster. She try to a coacshon me. I change to another place forma the same price and much much better and clean.
Towers Duplex Terrace 3 pax is a nice little apartement, best situated in the city center. The view from the terrace on the top is unique. The bathroom could be a little more comfortable but it works well. In summary it's a good choice for a trip to Seville. Finally Maria is even a very nice hostess.
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This is by far the most gentle self-tanner I've ever used. I have very sensitive skin and these products almost always give me a rash. Not this one. It gives a very natural color on light skin, doesn't have a bad smell and doesn't streak. — 6 years, 1 month agoThis review is: Helpful | Not helpful | Inappropriate | 3 of 3 people said helpful
Clarins Liquid Bronze Self Tanning
I will start off this review with the positive aspects of this. First off it doesn't smell bad, no self-tanner smell. It also has a nice consistency, not too runny, not too thick. Oh and it also did not make me break out. Now onto the bad... It took a couple of applications to actually notice a color difference. When the color does start to show up it showed up as an orange. :( — 6 years, 10 months agoThis review is: Helpful | Not helpful | Inappropriate | 1 of 1 people said helpful


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Myanmar Airways plans to open new UAE route
Myanmar Airways International will start flights to the United Arab Emirates next year, now the two countries have signed an aviation accord.
MAI's marketing and public relations manager, Aye Maya Thar, told local media that the airline plans to launch services to UAE in 2015, but gave no details.
Before the agreement signed on 10 March, Myanmar and UAE had no aviation treaties.