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Western gorilla[1] | |
Male | |
Female with infant | |
Scientific classification | |
Kingdom: | Animalia |
Phylum: | Chordata |
Class: | Mammalia |
Order: | Primates |
Suborder: | Haplorhini |
Family: | Hominidae |
Genus: | Gorilla |
Species: | G. gorilla |
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Gorilla gorilla (Savage, 1847) |
Subspecies | |
Western gorilla range |
The western gorilla (Gorilla gorilla) is a great ape—the type species as well as the most populous species of the genus Gorilla.[3]
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Nearly all of the individuals of this taxon belong to the western lowland gorilla subspecies (G. g. gorilla), whose population is approximately 95,000 individuals.[2] Only 250 to 300 of the only other western gorilla subspecies, the Cross River gorilla (G. g. diehli), are thought to remain.[4][5]
Western gorillas are generally lighter colored than eastern gorillas. Western lowland gorillas have grey-black or pure-black fur with a brownish forehead and also have an overhanging tip on their nose that is absent in eastern gorillas. Measurements of wild individuals show that mature males average 155 cm (61 in) in height, while mature females average 135 cm (53 in),[6] weights of wild individuals have been rarely taken but captive western gorillas average 157 kg (350 lb) in males and 80 kg (180 lb) in females.[7] The Cross River gorilla differs from the western lowland gorilla in both skull and tooth dimensions.
Behavior and ecology
Western gorillas live in groups that vary in size from two to twenty individuals. Such groups are composed of at least one male, several females and their offspring. A dominant male silverback heads the group, with younger males usually leaving the group when they reach maturity. Females transfer to another group before breeding, which begins at eight to nine years old; they care for their young infant for the first three to four years of its life. The interval between births, therefore, is long, which partly explains the slow population growth rates that make the western gorilla so vulnerable to poaching. Due to the long gestation time, long period of parental care, and infant mortality, a female gorilla will only give birth to an offspring that survives to maturity every six to eight years. Gorillas are long-lived and may survive for as long as 40 years in the wild. A group's home range may be as large as 30 square km, but is not actively defended. Wild western gorillas are known to use tools.[8]
Western gorillas' diets are high in fiber, including leaves, stems, fruit, piths, flowers, bark, invertebrates, and soil. The frequency of when each of these are consumed depends on the particular gorilla group and the season. Furthermore, different groups of gorillas eat differing numbers and species of plants and invertebrates, suggesting they have a food culture. Fruit comprises most of the gorillas' diets when it is abundant, directly influencing their foraging and ranging patterns. Fruits of the genera Tetrapleura, Chrysophyllum, Dialium, and Landolphia are favored by the gorillas. Low-quality herbs, such as leaves and woody vegetation, are only eaten when fruit is scarce. In the dry season from January to March, when fleshy fruits are few and far between, more fibrous vegetation such as the leaves and bark of the low-quality herbs Palisota and Aframomum are consumed. Of the invertebrates consumed by the gorillas, termites and ants make up the majority. Caterpillars, grubs, and larvae are also consumed in rarity.
Some ethnographic and pharmacological studies have suggested a possible medicinal value in particular foods consumed by the western gorilla. The fruit and seeds of multiple Cola species are consumed. Given the low protein content, the main reason for their consumption may be the stimulating effect of the caffeine in them. Western gorillas inhabiting Gabon have been observed consuming the fruit, stems, and roots of Tabernanthe iboga, which, due to the compound ibogaine in it, acts on the central nervous system, producing hallucinogenic effects. It also has effects comparable to caffeine.[9] There is also evidence for medicinal value for the seed pods of Aframomum melegueta in lowland gorillas' diets, which seem to have some sort of cardiovascular health benefit for lowland gorillas, and are a known part of the natural diets for many wild populations.[10]
A study published in 2007 announced the discovery of this species fighting back against possible threats from humans.[11] They "found several instances of gorillas throwing sticks and clumps of grass".[12] This is unusual, because gorillas usually flee and rarely charge when they encounter humans.
One mirror test in Gabon shows that western gorilla silverbacks react aggressively when faced with a mirror.[13]
Conservation status
The World Conservation Union lists the western gorilla as critically endangered, the most severe denomination next to global extinction, on its 2007 Red List of Threatened Species. The Ebola virus might be depleting western gorilla populations to a point where their recovery might become impossible, and the virus decimated populations in protected areas by 33% from 1992 to 2007, which may be equal to a decline of 45% for a period of just 20 years spanning 1992 to 2011.[2][3] Poaching, commercial logging and civil wars in the countries that compose the western gorillas' habitat are also threats.[3] Furthermore, reproductive rates are very low, with a maximum intrinsic rate of increase of about 3% and the high levels of decline from hunting and disease-induced mortality have caused declines in population of more than 60% over the last 20 to 25 years. Rather, under the optimistic estimate scenarios, population recovery would require on the order of 75 years. Much sooner, perhaps 20 to 30 years in the future, habitat loss and degradation from agriculture, timber extraction, mining and climate change will become a major threat. Thus, a population reduction of more than 80% over three generations (i.e., 66 years from 1980 to 2046) seems likely.[citation needed]
In the 1980s, a census taken of the gorilla populations in equatorial Africa was thought to be 100,000. Researchers adjusted the figure after years of poaching and deforestation had reduced the population to approximately 50,000.[14]
Surveys conducted by the Wildlife Conservation Society in 2006 and 2007 found around 125,000 previously unreported gorillas have been living in the swamp forests of Lake Tele Community Reserve and in neighbouring Marantaceae (dryland) forests in the Republic of the Congo. This discovery could more than double the known population of the animals, though the effect that the discovery will have on the gorillas' conservation status is currently unknown.[14][15] With the new discovery, the current population of western lowland gorillas could be around 150,000–200,000. However, the gorilla remains vulnerable to Ebola, deforestation, and poaching.[14]
Estimates on the number of Cross River gorillas remaining is 250–300 in the wild, concentrated in approximately 9-11 locations.[4] Recent genetic research[16] and field surveys suggest that these locations are linked by the occasional migration of individual gorillas. The nearest population of western lowland gorilla is some 250 km away. Both loss of habitat and intense hunting for bushmeat have contributed to the decline of this subspecies. A conservation plan for the Cross River gorilla published in 2007 outlined the most important actions necessary to preserve this subspecies.[17] The government of Cameroon has created the Takamanda National Park on the border with Nigeria, as an attempt to protect these gorillas.[18] The park now forms part of an important trans-boundary protected area with Nigeria's Cross River National Park, safeguarding an estimated 115 gorillas—a third of the Cross River gorilla population—along with other rare species.[19] The hope is that these gorillas will be able to move between the Takamanda reserve in Cameroon over the border to Nigeria's Cross River National Park.
Notable individual gorillas
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- ^ Groves, C.P. (2005). Wilson, D.E.; Reeder, D.M., eds. Mammal Species of the World: A Taxonomic and Geographic Reference (3rd ed.). Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press. pp. 181–182. OCLC 62265494. ISBN 0-801-88221-4.
- ^ a b c Maisels, F.; Bergl, R. A.; Williamson, E. A. (2016). "Gorilla gorilla". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. IUCN. 2016: e.T9404A17963949. Retrieved 5 September 2016.
- ^ a b c Planet Of No Apes? Experts Warn It's Close CBS News Online, 12 September 2007. Retrieved 22 March 2008.
- ^ a b Oates, J. F.; Bergl, R. A.; Sunderland-Groves, J. & Dunn, A. (2008). "Gorilla gorilla ssp. diehli". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. Version 2008. International Union for Conservation of Nature. Retrieved 26 April 2012.
- ^ "Animal Info – Gorilla". AnimalInfo.org. Retrieved 12 September 2007.
- ^ Wood, B. A. (1978). "Relationship between body size and long bone lengths in Pan and Gorilla". American Journal of Physical Anthropology. 50 (1): 23–5. doi:10.1002/ajpa.1330500104. PMID 736111.
- ^ Leigh, S. R.; Shea, B. T. (1995). "Ontogeny and the evolution of adult body size dimorphism in apes". American Journal of Primatology. 36: 37. doi:10.1002/ajp.1350360104.
- ^ Breuer, T.; Ndoundou-Hockemba, M.; Fishlock, V. (2005). "First Observation of Tool Use in Wild Gorillas". PLoS Biology. 3 (11): e380. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.0030380. PMC 1236726. PMID 16187795.
- ^ Caldecott, J., Miles, L., eds (2005) World Atlas of Great Apes and their Conservation. Prepared at the UNEP World Conservation Monitoring Centre. University of California Press, Berkeley, U.S.
- ^ "Gorilla diet protects heart: grains of paradise". Asknature.org. 20 February 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012.
- ^ Wittiger, L; Sunderland-Groves, J. L. (2007). "Tool use during display behavior in wild Cross River gorillas". American Journal of Primatology. 69 (11): 1307–11. doi:10.1002/ajp.20436. PMID 17410549.
- ^ World's Most Endangered Gorilla Fights Back. Science Daily. 11 December 2007
- ^ Hubert-Brierre, Xavier (2015) Silverback always shows aggressiveness towards mirrors - Le dos argenté agresse toujours son reflet. Youtube
- ^ a b c "More than 100,000 rare gorillas found in Floral Park". CNN. 5 August 2008. Retrieved 5 August 2008.
- ^ "Thousands Of Rare Gorillas Found In Congo". Cbsnews.com. 5 August 2008. Retrieved 3 July 2009.
- ^ Bergl, R. A.; Vigilant, L (2007). "Genetic analysis reveals population structure and recent migration within the highly fragmented range of the Cross River gorilla (Gorilla gorilla diehli)". Molecular Ecology. 16 (3): 501–16. doi:10.1111/j.1365-294X.2006.03159.x. PMID 17257109.
- ^ Oates, J., Sunderland-Groves, J., Bergl, R., Dunn, A., Nicholas, A., Takang, E., Omeni, F., Imong, I., Fotso, R., Nkembi, L. and Williamson, E.A. (2007). Regional Action Plan for the Conservation of the Cross River Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla diehli). IUCN/SSC Primate Specialist Group and Conservation International, Arlington, VA, U.S.
- ^ Black, Richard (28 November 2008) Protection boost for rare gorilla. BBC News
- ^ New National Park Protects World's Rarest Gorilla. Newswise. 26 November 2008


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By Cal Thomas
In his State of the Union address, President Obama at times sounded like he was channeling Ronald Reagan: cutting the deficit, hailing private enterprise and individual initiative, talking about the future.
But for all his eloquence, the president wrapped his liberal ideology in conservative sheep's clothing.
On the surface, the president said many things with which conservatives might agree, but words can mean something, or they can mask true intentions.
There was no indication the president plans to retreat on his far-left agenda of the last two years.
Why should he? That would require denying who he is.
Absent the glamorous rhetoric, let's examine the major subjects on which the president touched.
– Education: Anyone who has seen the film "Waiting for Superman" knows the public education system in this country is a mess and that if all the money now being spent on education isn't improving the product, especially for the poor, whom Democrats are supposed to be championing, more money will not help. Competition through school choice would improve education.
The speech was another sop to teachers' unions that care more about their members than students' futures.
– Innovation: Government doesn't innovate. It regulates. It taxes. According to The Cato Institute (www.cato.org/), the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the U.S. is 40 percent, first among Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries.
Japan comes in second with a combined rate of 35.7 percent.
In his speech, the president said he supports reducing the corporate tax rate for the first time in 25 years, but then came the caveat: "without adding to our deficit."
Cutting taxes without reducing spending will add to the deficit and so the president can eschew responsibility when Democrats refuse to vote for business tax reductions.
– Deficit reduction: Where to begin? A president and until recently an all-Democratic Congress has put our financial house in jeopardy by running up a $14 trillion debt.
In March 2006, when he was a senator, Obama called the $8.27 trillion debt ceiling "a sign of leadership failure."
If the debt ceiling during the George W. Bush presidency was a sign of failed leadership, who's failing in his leadership when the debt has climbed to $14 trillion? Deficit reduction will come when the government cuts (not caps) spending.
– Reforming government: The best way to "reform" government is to reduce unneeded and unnecessary programs and agencies. Congress should establish a commission similar to the successful Base Realignment and Closing Commission (BRAC), which shuttered outmoded military bases.
Every government agency and program should be required to justify its existence consistent with its cost and benefit to the greatest number of Americans. If they can't, they should be eliminated.
– Infrastrcuture: From better roads to high-speed inter- and intra-city trains, the U.S. lags behind many European and Asian countries in providing low-cost, efficient and fast transportation for its citizens. It is one of the few areas where Americans would be willing to pay more in fares or even taxes to improve the way we move around.
Included in infrastructure ought to be the mining of America's considerable natural gas supply and a "to the moon" emphasis on nuclear power and drilling for more oil in America's backyard to ease our dependence on foreign oil.
It will take years to break our foreign oil addiction and so new sources of petroleum on American territory must be explored, something this president won't do.
Curiously, Obama invoked a space analogy, mentioning the Russian "Sputnik" satellite launched in 1957 and the American Apollo program that sent astronauts to the moon in 1969. And yet this president has effectively mothballed our space program at a time when China is moving rapidly forward with its.
The president's speech was all about new spending ("investment" he called it), no matter what he said about reducing the deficit. Spending on big government is what liberals do. No one should be fooled by the rhetoric, or the theatrics of congressional Republicans and Democrats sitting together.
The Republican challenge is to stop the president's liberal agenda while making the case for a better one.
Cal Thomas writes for Tribune Media Services, 2225 Kenmore Ave., Suite 114, Buffalo, N.Y. 14207. Readers may also e-mail Cal Thomas at email@example.com.


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Sir Issac Newton is hearlded as one of the most brillant minds ever and if he were alive today, most likely he'd love wakesurfing, because it exemplifies his three laws of motion. We want to explain one phenomenon associated with the bucket board and then also apply it to a strange situation for tall but light weight folks.
Newtons third law goes something like this: When a body exerts a force on another body, that second body simultanesouly exerts a force on the first body equal and oppoiste.
Yikes! What does that mean! Ok, you push against a wall and nothing happens, hopefully. The wall is actually pushing back with an equal force and in the opposite direction as your push. It's possible to push the wall down, but it requires a net force that is LARGER than the wall can push back with.
Now we know that gravity and our weight have a downward force. We won't have THAT discussion, but trust us on the whole gravity thing. We are able to balance that downward force against the upward force of our wakes and we call that wakesurfing! What we use as the intermediary is a wakesurf board that collects lifting forces on one side and matches those with the downward forces from our weight and gravity pushing down. In effect our wakesurf board is a collection device on one side and a distribution device on the other side. The net balance of those two allows the wakesurf board to sort of skim across the surface. We used hydroplaning in the previous post for want of a better term, but what it's doing is collecting lifting forces from underneath and spreading our mass across that collection system to balance the two.
Let's define a balanced system of wake forces UPWARD, wakesurf board collection system and then a rider with weight and gravity pushing downward. The rider is in trim following the boat and having a nice tie.
Here is a marvelous hand shaped rendering of that concept.
If you look at the wakesurf board, such as it's depicted, what does it do? It captures the flow of water UP the wake allowing the rider to balance his weight against the lifting forces. So our wakesurf boards are collection devices, in a sense.
What happens when we change out the rider? Let's make him weight 400 pounds. Ok save from the likelihood of a stroke, our collection device is going to need to capture MORE of the lifting forces, to the tune of a total of 400 pounds before that new rider can wakesurf. It can do that with length and/or width. It's the whole wetted surface concept that is talked about. You get the idea, a larger board or more of the existing board must be utilized. The typical response is to go longer, but really wider does the trick also we just need to capture more of the lifting forces when we introduce more mass on the top side of that equation, so to speak. Most likely if the wakesurf board/collection device was appropriately sized for the first rider, it won't work for the 4-hundred'er. Effectively it would need to capture twice as much of the lifting forces and most likely there won't be enough wetted surface area or effective shape to capture the flow.
Now let's go the other way, let's cut the rider weight in half. So now all we need is 100 pounds of lifting forces. We know from experience that a smaller/lighter rider can almost always rider a bigger wakesurf board and now you know why! As a collection device the wakesurf board sized for the 200 pound rider is under-utilized when there is a 100 pound rider on top.
Here is what that concept looks like in hand-shaped goodness.
You'll notice that we red X'ed out 50% of the lifting foces. Wouldn't that be cool if we could just do that? Insert or delete lifting foces with a crayon???!!! How does the Rider actually achieve that? That aren't balancing on the same amount of lifting forces, becuase we know from Newtons 3rd law, they are equal, if they aren't equal the rider and collection system get push up and off the top of the wake. You gotta love physics! So what does the rider do? Most likely he/she moves backwards to a point where the collection device (wakesurf board) is ONLY collecting 100 pounds of lifting forces.
We've all experienced this where smaller folks are all the way at the back of the board, riding it like a wakeboard almost. So Let's say that both the 200 pounder and the 100 pounder can ride the board, would the stance be the same between those two riders? Not in trim, because to the lighter weight rider, according to Newtons Third law, will need less balancing forces and will ride in a position which captures less of the forces. Now some of that will happen simply because there is less weight lifting the board but also, the rider will wind up riding further back on the board to balance the change in the center of the lifting forces.
What happens when those riders go to lean forward? Put more weight on the nose of the board to make it turn down the face of the wake? The heavier rider is going to have an easier go of it, isn't he/she? His/her weight is more centered over the board, probably his center of gravity is closer to the apex of the wakesurf board and so he/she will be able to engage that quicker.
Can you guess what happens with the lighter weight rider, if it's the same board as the 200 pound rider? If the lighter weight rider is capturing less of the water flow along the rails and really the whole bottom surface of the board, he/she is going to have to shift further forward on the board to engage more of the rail closer to the apex, right? That riders center of gravity is further back and so MORE of it will be reguired to shift forward to offset the increase in lifting forces engaged by the board.
What we think happens for TALLER yet LIGHTER riders is that their stance is probably the same as the heavier rider, but their body position isn't. BUT also the rail line that is engaging the wake is less than the rider that weighs more. It's not really sitting deeper in the water, that's a misnomer, but there is more of the wake lifting the bottom of the board. It's probably both longer and wider that the bottom of the board is engaged with the wake.
As the lighter weight rider goes to engage the rail line, he/she has to really move much further forward than the heavier rider before that happens.
What we see with that issue, is that if the board is identical, lets say it's the same board AND the riders are the same height and have the same stace and one isn't a super buff body builder, just the same basic muscle strength, the lighter weight rider will have to be further forward on that same board in order to place enough weight on it to counter act the increased collection of the wakesurf board. Longer board, right?
There are a number of ways to effect changes here. Lighter weight riders can rider narrower boards than heavier riders of the same height and stance and physical ability. They can also ride boards with more rocker or even with an apex further back.
BUT if the board is exactly the same, and the wake forces are exactly the same what happens? The lighter weight rider has to shift his weight forward or sideways or something MORE than the heavier rider in order to effect the same amount of net force, because well he/she is lighter.
Here are some more hand-crafted drawings to represent the concept. The heavier person
The lighter person, note the repostioning to effect the same net downward force.
Now there are a LOT of "if everything is the same" in there. So we can't compare aplles to oranges. If you stick a 40 pound kid on that board with a teeny-tiny stance it's not the same thing. Our theory here is that everything is the same except the weightof the riders. Imagine the same rider/borad/wake combination but in the first instance that rider has a 100 pound backpack on and then in the second instance he's chucked the backpack.
Would they ride in the same position to start with? Nope, we know that answer already and we also know that leaning forward while wearing the 100 pound backpack will be more effective than without it! 🙂
So that's our Physics discussion for today as we observed from wakesurfing the bucket board and it's has interesting implications for wakesurf board design that we mostly don't see employed. Thanks for sticking around and reading it all, we were working had to describe our conclusions. Most likley you'll have different conclusions as this is certainly not an exact science!
Thanks so much for following along, we appreciate it!


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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Age: 28
As for Ireland, the only good restaurants are ethnic places. Ireland doesn't really have a native cuisine that's restaurant worthy. |
2012-09-13, 08:38 | Link #2442 |
Salt Levels Critical
Join Date: Oct 2007
The best Japanese restaurant I've found around here is this tiny hole-in-the-wall place on the local university campus. I guess that shouldn't be too surprising considering it's a very large university with a very diverse student body, but it's kinda sad that it's the only Japanese restaurant among many that serves more than sushi or store-bought udon (even the well-known restaurant actually run by a Japanese guy in the city is heavily Americanized). Can't get curry rice, beef soba, or my personal favorite, oyako-don, anywhere else around here and I still go there fairly often despite having graduated long ago.
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Obey the Darkly Cute ...
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 59
If you go to Japan, avoid those, make heavy use of the street food nd small eateries, use the mom'n'pop ryokan or minshuku to stay at. Its a lot cheaper and your immersion experience goes through the roof.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 33
Perhaps I'm lucky, as a huge foodie, I've managed to discover fantastic Japanese and other restaurants in both the cities I've lived in here in Canada (Toronto & Vancouver). Many of them are NOT 4 or 5 star restaurants at all.. But some of them definitely are (albeit not Michelin, there's no Michelin guide for Canada). As for Japanese cuisine and sushi.. Of the hundreds and thousands of sushi restaurants here in Toronto, I would go to maybe .. 5 or 6 for the sushi? They have fresh uni and toro! I actually have fewer options when it comes to decent ramen.. OH! And I stayed at this GORGEOUS ryokan in Hakone, definitely busted the wallet, but the kaiseki cuisine was breathtaking.. I actually miss having rice for breakfast since coming back to Toronto.. @Sumeragi - Interesting tidbit.. It's true most of the Japanese restaurants outside Japan are owned by non-Japanese, namely Korean and Chinese, but the chefs at the good restaurants (incl. good ramen places) learned their craft for years in Japan before opening up overseas if they're not ethnically Japanese. Also some of the restaurants do have Japanese chefs, even if the rest of the staff isn't Japanese. I've started to try to not judge restaurants based on the ethnicity of the owner/staff .. but that has bitten my in the butt HARD on a few occasions as well |
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Knight Errant
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Age: 28
I'll add another factor, the age of the clientele. The older the better. Young people aren't as discerning about their food, and are more likely to go to places because they're "fashionable". Older people are generally more discerning.
On the flipside, older people tend to be more set in their tastes, which may not necessarily be the same as yours. And not all young people are such poor judges. But the more fashionable ones definitely are. They'll just go to a place because it look cool, not worrying about value for money or how good the actual food is. The poor student dressed in clothes from Walmart, might be a slightly better judge. He has no pretensions. |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep
Korean ran Japanese restaurants are much closer to Japanese food than Chinese run ones in general.
They're still freakin sushi bars though. I wish there was a cheap Matsuya nearby for some good cheap Gyudon, cheap ramen joints, and cheap okonomiyaki and takoyaki places. But noooooo. Yet. Another. Freaking. SUSHI!!! *cries* Last month I bought a deep fryer. And made my own Katsu-curry. Because you know, unless I make them myself, I'll be eternally denied of them! *sobs* P.S: btw, mix Lea & Perrin's Worcestershire sauce with a clump of ketchup, and voila, it taste just like Tonkatsu sauce. Amazing.
2012-09-13, 09:59 | Link #2451 | |
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 28
Think of the palette types that are available! Soft and smooth serving dishes can be used for mochi and desserts, brown ganguro types can be used to serve warm barbecue meat, and the endowment levels can be suited accordingly to the food portions, i.e the unendowed ones can be use to serve finger food where no utensils are actually needed....... As compared to the regular food presentations of sushi on normal coloured plates, this would certainly look more appetising, no? With regards to food presentation though, I find that Japanese food preparation processes seem to have this OCD about food tasting AND looking good at the same time. The last time I went to one, the sashimi was so slowly prepared; I went through an entire tray and it is still not refilled, the chef slowly slicing and putting the thing into place.
2012-09-13, 10:42 | Link #2454 | |
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 33
Then again I eat a lot of sushi as well so I'm not exactly complaining.. although I don't go to 99.9% of the restaurants because they're terrible. The sushi place I frequent here gets a thumbs up on using the appropriate rice, super fresh fish and telling me honestly if they get a shipment of ingredients that is subpar! |
2012-09-13, 11:39 | Link #2455 | ||
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 59
I don't have aohige's problem at all comparatively, that may be a regional issue. All the things he's crying for are readily available in all the Japanese restaurants I frequent. (though he's dead on about some street food being horribly overpriced sometimes) Quote:
2012-09-13, 11:54 | Link #2456 |
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
Age: 48
In my area there are quite a number of "Japanese Restaurants", at least 20 in a 10 mile radius. Most of the ones I've been to are run by non-Japanese folks. All are pretty good.
However, my favorite place is a little hole-in-the-wall run by a sweet, old Japanese woman who does all the work herself. Zod, now I can't wait for lunch! Endless "Hungry" Soul
2012-09-13, 16:21 | Link #2457 | |
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Tesla Leicht Institute
Age: 27
2012-09-13, 18:38 | Link #2459 |
Join Date: Oct 2004
Age: 37
So how authentic is this joint ?
I eaten a few times there and while the dishes is tasty enough and the serving isn't bite sized but the pricings ain't suited for consumption on a regular basis. So I want to see if I got my money's worth. |
2012-09-13, 19:14 | Link #2460 | |
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 33
If I recall, the only thing I liked there was a braised pork dish, but even then it tasted more like Chinese food that my mother made as a child than anything Japanese.. EDIT: Oh, and it's been a year since I've been to the one in downtown Toronto, but I remember the noodles were all wrong. They didn't taste like ramen noodles at all.. and I've tried a variety of ramen joints in Tokyo, Kyoto, Vancouver and here in Toronto.. |
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Just confirming these definitely spawn as one of the alpine hare's battle partners. I got one on my 4th alpine hare battle.
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This dropped for me today on my 139th bog needler kill. I've been farming it by running along the row of bog needlers every time I head to the instances in the area. I've found combining rep running instances, herb picking (sangine hibiscus in this case for Sporegar rep) & pet farming helps keep boredom away ;-)
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Turkey: Kas to Dalyan, with walks
Turkish Coast: KAS TO DALYAN
by Michael Bussmann, Gabriele Tröger, Brian and Eileen Anderson, Dean Livesley
The only guidebook worth taking to the Turquoise Coast, and the only accurate map we've found of the area. Highly recommended. (LE, Amazon)
We bought this guide book as it was the only one with walks in it; we ended up not hiking but this was by far the best guide book we used for planning our holiday in Fethiye, and the only one we took with us. Highly recomended. (POL, Amazon)
Ideal guide for a holiday combining walking and visiting archeological sites on the Lycian Turkish Coast. We would not have been able to plan our own walking holiday without this guide. It was also useful for visiting the beautiful historical sites in this area and for finding accommodation as we travelled along the coast. (AC, Amazon)
The ideal guide book for day walks and car touring along the Turkish Coast. We spent two weeks exploring this beautiful region, and managed to cover quite a good part of this Lycian coast thanks to this book. (BC, Amazon)
Used this guide extensively on our recent trip to Kalkan. While we did not walk much, we found the information and maps on the walks very useful. A must-have for a trip to this area. (Eddie, Amazon)
Click below to read walker's reviews and use the 'Look Inside' feature on Amazon.co.uk (RRP £14.99)
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This guidebook — the only general guide in English to cover this part of the Turkish Coast in detail — is an ideal companion for motorists who want to tour Lycia by car, as well as those planning a holiday walking in Turkey. The book combines the best features of our 'Landscapes' walking and car touring guides with all the detail you would expect in a hefty general guide, but it is pocket size and in full colour. Coverage includes getting there and getting about; recommended accommodation, campsites and restaurants (all with prices); practicalities A-Z; history; 15 main walks with many variations, all with large-scale topo maps; fold-out area map; large-scale town plans showing locations of all sights, hotels and restaurants; plans of historical sites; and many 'feature' panels.
The whole Lycian Peninsula takes in a very large area; this guide concentrates on the region between Kas and Dalyan. There are two other books in the trilogy — one covering the area east of Kas to Antalya and Alanya, the other exploring the Gulf of Gokova to the west and focussing on the Marmaris and Bodrum peninsulas.
All the authors have been visiting Turkey for many years, writing general and walking guides. Dean Livesley was one of the original developers of the famous Lycian Way, Turkey's first long-distance footpath, and a key feature of this book is coverage of the Lycian Way as day walks, with full transport details.
Area covered: From Demre and Simena east of Kas to Lake Koycegiz in the west. Popular places to stay are Kas, Kalkan, Fethiye and Dalyan; other highlights include Patara and Ölüdeniz.
Many correspondents tell us their knowledge of the geography of Turkey is very limited and want to know which resorts are covered in each of our guides. Here is a simple map showing the locations of the principal towns within the three regions covered by our Turkish Coast titles.
To check if a specific resort is included in one of the books, check the book's contents or index on Amazon's 'Look Inside'. If you are unsure of the locations of smaller resorts in relation to the areas covered in our guide books, please refer to the maps appearing in tour operators' brochures.
The best months for walking in Turkey or walking the Lycian Way are April, May, September and October.
Where to stay
For ease of access to bus services, stay in or near one of the towns shown on the map below. If you are hiring a car, choose any resort near the main coastal road.
Edition/contents etc
184 pages + touring map
Town plans: Kas, Kalkan, Fethiye, Dalyan
Site plans: Patara, Xanthos, Pinara, Tlos
16 walks, each illustrated with large-scale (1:50,000) topo maps
3rd ed, 2012; ISBN 978-1-85691-400-0; UK retail price £14.99 / USA retail price $19.99
Table of contents:
IMPORTANT: Place names in Turkey often contain characters with accents, which are not included in western European fonts. Accented characters such as these often appear incorrectly when viewed on the web and if used may be replaced by unrecognizable symbols when viewed on a different computer. Accented characters in the place names shown here have therefore been replaced by characters without accents. However, in the book, the appropriate font has been used to ensure that all place names appear with the correct accents.
Preface 5
Publisher's note 8
Turkey in facts and figures 10
Introduction 12
When to go 12
Getting to the area 12
By air 12
By car, train 13
Getting around the area 14
By car or motorcycle 14
By bus 16
By Fez Bus, dolmus 17
By taxi, train, ferry, chartered boat; 'Blue cruises' 19
By organised tour, bicycle, hitchhiking 20
Walking 21
Accommodation 24
Food and drink 27
Practicalities A-Z 33
Ancient sites – the most important terms, Beaches 33
Books for background reading, Chemists, Children, Climate and weather, Consulates/embassies 34
Crime, Currency 35
Dress, Electricity, Festivals and holidays 36
Flora and fauna 37
Gays and lesbians, Import and export regulations 38
Information about Turkey, Inoculations, Internet access, Invitations 39
Islam 40
Maps (large-scale), Medical care, Music and belly dance 44
Newspapers and magazines 45
Opening times, Police, Post offices, Prices, Shopping and bargaining 46
Sites and museums 48
Sport and leisure 49
Telephone 50
Time, Toilets 51
Travel documents, Turkish 52
Women 55
History 56
Town plan 66-67
Day trip to the Greek island of Kastellorizo 71
Walk 1: Kastellorizo 73
Walk 2: Kas · Bayindir · Liman Agzi · Kas 76
Walk 3: Kas – Liman Agzi loop 80
Walk 4: Bozkaya 82
Walk 5: Sinekci · Semsi · Nisa · Sutlegen 85
Walk 6: Kas· Cukurbag · Phellos · Derekoy ·Felen Bridge 88
Walk 7: Dirgenler – Dereagzi loop 92
Demre (Kale), with Myra and Andriake 95
Kekova and Simena 96
Walk 8: Davazlar junction · Hoyran · Kapakli · Cayagzi 98
Walk 9: Ucagiz · Burc Castle · Gokkaya loop 101
Walk 10: Kilincli · Apollonia · Aperlae 1053
Town plan 1114
Patara (with site plan) 118
Walk 11: Yesilkoy · Delikkemer Aqueduct · Patara 121
Xanthos (with site plan) 125
Letoon 128
Sidyma 129
Pinara (with site plan) 130
Saklikent Gorge 131
Walk 12: Arsakoy to the Saklikent Gorge 133
Tlos (with site plan) 136
Gebeler 138
South of Oludeniz 143
Kayakoyu 145
Gemiler Bay 147
Walk 13: From Kayakoyu to Oludeniz 148
Walk 14: Ovacik · Faralya · Kabak 150
Walk 15: Kabak – Alinca loop 153
Town plan 158-9
Kadyanda, Oineanda 166
Walk 16: Oineanda 167
Bay of Katranci, Gocek 169
Dalaman Airport 171
Osmaniye, Ortaca 172
Town plan 176
Sights around Dalyan 178
Koycegiz 179
Sights around Koycegiz 181
Bay of Ekincik 182
Index 183
Fold-out area map inside back cover
Guidebook index
IMPORTANT: Place names in Turkey often contain characters with accents, which are not included in western European fonts. Accented characters such as these often appear incorrectly when viewed on the web and if used may be replaced by unrecognizable symbols when viewed on a different computer. Accented characters in the place names shown here have therefore been replaced by characters without accents. However, in the book, the appropriate font has been used to ensure that all place names appear with the correct accents.
Alinca 153, 154
Andriake 95, 98,100
Antiphellos (see Kas)
Aperlae 105, 107
Apollonia 105, 106
Arsada (site) 134, 135
Arsakoy 133, 135
Bayindir 76, 77, 78-79 Bogazcik 78-79, 105
Bozkaya (mountain) 82. 83, 84-85
Burc Castle 101, 103
Butterfly Valley (near Oludeniz) 5, 143
Cam Dag (mountain) 78-79
Caunos 178
Cayagzi 98, 100
Cukurbag 88, 89, 90
Dalaman Airport 171-172
Dalyan 6, 8, 173-179, 174
Davazlar 93, 98
Delikkemer Aqueduct 121, 123
Demre (Kale) 92, 93, 94
Dereagzi 92, 93, 94, 94
Derekoy 88, 89, 91
Dirgenler 92, 93, 94
Ekincik, Bay 182
Esen Cayi 120, 121, 125
Faralya 143, 150, 151, 152
Felen Bridge 88, 89, 91
Felen Dag 89, 90
Fethiye 41, 50, 148, 155-166, 156, 163
Gebeler 125,138
Gelemis (see Patara) 123
Gemiler Bay 147, 148, 149
Gemiler Island (Gemiler Adasi) 147, 148, 149, 161
Gocek 169, 170, 171
Gokkaya 101, 102, 104
Gokkaya Bay 98
Gombe 113
Gursu 82, 84-85
Hisaronu (Hisaronu Koy) 148
Hoyran 98, 99
Incealiler 167, 168
Kabak (town, bay, beach) 144, 150, 152, 153, 154
Kadyanda (site) 166
Kale (see Demre)
Kale Koy (Simena) 101
Kalkan 27, 108, 109
Kapakli 98, 100. 102
Kaputas (bay, beach) 7, 113
Kas 47, 63-71, 69, 70, 72, 73, 74, 75, 80, 81, 88, 89
Kastellorizo (Greek island) 20
Katranci, Bay 7,161,169
Kayakoyu 145, 148, 149
Kekova 8, 95, 96, 106, 107
Kelebek Vadisi (see Butterfly Valley)
Kidrak Bay 143
Kilincli 105, 106
Koycegiz 179, 180, 181
Kumluova Plaji 118
Kuruova Beli (pass) 82, 84-85
Letoon 7, 125, 128, 129
Liman Agzi 76, 78-79, 80, 81
Myra 92, 93, 95
Nisa 84-85, 87
Oineanda (site) 166, 167, 168
Oludeniz 5, 7, 139, 141, 148, 149, 161
Ortaca 172
Osmaniye 172
Ovacik 148, 159, 152
Patara (Gelemis) 7, 33, 114, 115, 120, 121, 123
Phellos 88, 89, 90
Pinara (site) 125, 129 (plan), 131
Saklikent Gorge 8, 125, 131, 132, 133, 135 Sidyma 125, 129
Simena 95, 96, 98, 101, 104 Sinekci 84-85, 86
Sutlegen 84-85, 87
Taurus Mountains 8, 22, 37 Telmessus 148 Tlos (site)125, 136, 137 (plan), 138
Ucagiz 98, 101, 103, 104, 107
Ufakdere 76, 78-79, 105
Xanthos (site) 7, 49, 57, 125, 126 (plan), 127
Yesilkoy 121, 123
Current update
TURKISH COAST: KAS TO DALYAN, Third edition, published 2011 ; updated 17/06/14
Updates for walks and all general information given below supplement those provided in the guidebook. It is vital that this Update is read in conjunction with the text of the book, but note that the Update applies only to the edition stated and not to any earlier editions. (If you have an older edition of this book you can "upgrade" to the latest edition at half price.)
Information has been forwarded to us by users of the book, and Sunflower Books offers the data in good faith but cannot be held responsible for any misleading or inaccurate content in the Update. Unless indicated otherwise, what appears here has not been verified by the author or publisher, so please allow due caution when new or amended routes are suggested. Each piece of information is dated; bear in mind that some of the older observations may have since been overtaken by events or further changes. If, during your holiday, you are using the current edition of the guide and are able to provide any additional updating to add to this page, we will be pleased to hear from you. Please send information, preferably by e-mail, to firstname.lastname@example.com.
General: Excellent book, but note that the Lycian Way walks have developed and expanded, especially east of Kabak and include Sidyma. (User, 6/14) [Editor's comment: This is not meant to be a guide to the Lycian Way – for which there is already a guide – but rather a general guide including some one-day walks, some of which follow the Lycian Way.]
Walk 15 Kabak loop: Below some waypoints. (User, 1/08)
(WGS 84)Waypoint TR_KbAl_01_Mamas N36.46752 E29.12374
Waypoint TR_KbAl_02_res N36.46956 E29.12905
Waypoint TR_KbAl_03_bend N36.47040 E29.12944
Waypoint TR_KbAl_07_jkt N36.46956 E29.14487


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- Brandi B. said...
Has Chico EVER been in charge, least of all in charge of Z?
Anyway, Chico is a trophy bunn. He just has to be the cutest dang thing he can be, he does not have to think or be in charge of anything... - November 6, 2013 at 11:59 PM
- Crafty Green Poet said...
I agree with Vrandy, Chico isn't in charge there...
- November 7, 2013 at 1:54 AM
- bunnits said...
Chico, you just have to learn to wait on the Lady
- November 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM
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Equine Studies?? I am currently a junior in high school, and so, it is time to begin my search for the right path in life xD I've always been 100% about having a career in the equine industry. However, I have swayed back and forth from equine veterinarian, to professional rider, to trainer and everything in between. I have also been 100% about going to college. So at this point, I am trying to find the right major and college. I recently recieved mail from Delaware Valley College and so, checked out their website. In doing so I saw they have an Equine Studies major. I have heard about it before but never really read up on what it was. From the DelVal website, it seems to be really interesting. And so here is my question. Has anyone here majored in Equine Studies or does anyone have extensinve information about said major? If you did major in Equine Studies, do you think it adequately prepared you for the equine industry, and how well rounded would you say it has made you? Thanks! |
I have an animal science degree (pre-vet) with an equine emphasis from a major university. I rode with IHSA, took classes on equine industry, equine evaluation, equine production, behavior and training, etc etc. I've been teaching/training full time for about 6 years now and while I absolutely loved my college years, quite honestly, my degree hasn't helped me out a whole lot. Sure, it's crucial to be able to evaluate the conformation of a horse but you don't need a degree to do it. The things that I use in my job are things that you need to learn with hands on experience and time in the field. I have a reputation as a trainer because people bring me horses to ride and they leave happy, healthy, and more rideable horses. I have a reputation as an instructor because people bring me their kids and they learn how to ride. Success in the show ring (for myself, my horses, and my kids) doesn't hurt either... Do you need a degree to do this? Nope. For me it's just icing on the cake. I know quite a few very respectable and very successful people in the industry with no degrees. I think in this day and age though a degree is very important. I'm glad you're definitely going to college. It's especially important to have a back up plan when your life and dream is horses. You never know what will happen in this industry. What i think is really lacking in a lot of really successful trainers is business skills. Trainers/instructors/BMs/BOs use business every single day: management, law, insurance, finance, investments, accounting, advertising, different computer programs, I could go on and on. If you REEEAALLY want to work in the industry, my suggestion would be to get a degree in some kind of business and spend your summers working your butt off as a working student with a reputable trainer who is willing to teach you everything she knows and has a sizable network of people who she can hook you up with for a job after graduation. Sorry, this is kind of long. :) But quite honestly if someone came up to me looking to be hired I would care less if they had an equine degree, or any degree at all. All I need to know is can they ride, can they teach, and are they willing to work hard. |
I'm only in grade 10 but like eventer17 i am also looking at an equine future. is getting a major good enough. I was considering going to Olds College and getting an Equine Business and Management major. I considered a horsemanship major but my boss and instructor is an olympic rider so I get all the riding needs right there. Would getting a major be good enough? |
Do what you love. The downside to working with horses is you will make crap for money. Don't get my wrong, you will make enough to perhaps live "comfortably" but money will always be tight. If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life. I always thought I wanted to work with horses, I got accepted into three different colleges for large animal science/equine sciences, but I would come out with what? you know? Now I'm in college to be a vet tech with a minor in large animal science so atleast I have a backup plan. Always have a backup! |
^^ After re-reading your first post, I got accepted into Delval and I loved it!!! But it was more expensive to go out of state. They have a GREAT equine program. The town next to it is really cute it's called Doyles town and it's like an old english style place. I have a friend who goes there for Zoology. It's a very very small college though. And the girls on the riding team are very close-nit and the majority of the girls are stuck up. |
Thanks so much for info guys! upnover: That is my major concern about a degree in equine studies. I was scanning through the major specific courses, however, and there were quite a few involving business and barn management, so I'm thinking maybe it would still be okay. Do you think I should minor in business? White Foot: Yes I know Doylestown. Lol. I actually only live a half hour away in King of Prussia, so I'm right in the area ;] |
To the OP- I am just about to finish my second year of vet school so I can give you some input on that route. If you want to become an equine vet, you should definitely shadow/work in a clinic first. Equine medicine is a 24 hour a day 7 days a week job and most of the time you are working with owners who are difficult. You don't get a lot of time to ride or to be with your own horses and if you want to have a family in the future that is also very hard. But it can be done so don't let these things stop you, just realize that you must think about them long and hard. For me, I love science and solving puzzles and that is what vet med is all about. As far as majors in college, it doesn't matter what you major in as long as you fulfill all the pre-reqs. We have girls in our class with majors in foreign languages, theology, communications, and of course things like zoology and animal science. The most important thing to getting into vet school is having lots of experience and good GRE scores. Straight A's are not necessary but will help you a lot. Good luck with finding your path in life. The best advice I can ever give anyone is don't be in a hurry. Take time to travel and to work and live life, I started vet school at age 30 and it has not hurt me one bit at all!!! |
xD Small world. If you go for equine studies you can do alot in the field. Anything from lab work (testing food, looking for cures, eta..) to working and riding in the field. |
honestly, its better to do what will make the best money, then do something you love. you want to be able to afford horses, and being a professional rider, horse trainer, riding instructor, etc will most likely not make enough money. My mother is a engineer and she works for the military. she didnt want to do this as a carrier, but it makes great money, and she can afford a great house, having 3 cars and a motorcycle, and the horses. She always told me never go to college for the most "fun" thing you can study because its the easy way out and you'll struggle later. My aunt was an engineer making great money, but she quit to "do something she loves", and now she's dirt poor and has to stay with her abusive boyfriend so she has a roof over her head. if you really want to work with horses, i would recommed Vet tech or Veterinarian. Both of those carriers were in Time Magazine on their best jobs for upcoming years list. Im sorry if I didnt give you the answer you wanted, or if i sound cynical, but im truely trying to help you out. You want to afford horses, and you want to live confortably. Professional rider, instructor, horse trainer are deffinitly not the way to go. Keep horses your hobby, or as a second job to a job that makes better money. |
We have good friends down the road that have been in the horse business for 40+ years. They have no college, do no advertising, have no internet access, but have a great reputation, all via word of mouth. They are very savy business people and weather the ups and downs of the economy, seasons, and horse business because they are well diversified... breeding, training, instruction, boarding (full and self care), trail rides/special occasions, farming (hay), and construction (e.g. arenas, fencing, etc). |
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Survey says — Comox Valley residents aware, and preparing to vote in November
Results of the Comox Valley Regional District's most recent resident survey indicate a significant increase in awareness of services offered.
Other findings include an almost-complete awareness of water usage restrictions, high support for water usage restrictions, and a surprisingly large percentage of residents indicating they intend to vote in the November civic elections.
"This year's survey asked some general questions about awareness of services delivered — up for the third straight year — which is gratifying since we try very hard to communicate well and regularly with residents," said Leigh Carter, CVRD general manager of public affairs and information systems.
"And, for the first time, we asked some questions around specific areas like participation in our rebate programs, interest in other programs, awareness of water restrictions in the summer, and —given that this is a civic election year — intention to vote."
This was the second 'tracking' survey conducted since the district restructured in 2008, and therefore builds on the baseline of information gathered in 2009.
To ensure transparency and objectivity, the CVRD uses an independent market research firm to undertake the surveys. The survey design consisted of telephone interviews with a random sample of 524 residents who are the decision-makers for their household. The margin of error is at most ±4.4 per cent, 19 times out of 20.
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Steamboat Springs Leo Atkinson emerged from a cutting room in the back of his workshop on Oak Street looking like an alien.
In a gas mask, goggles and ear protection over a green bandanna, Atkinson looked as if he were prepared for intergalactic travel rather than a groundbreaking mineral and fossil artist. But it's standard for the profession.
He peeled off his safety gear and began to talk.
"I spend half my time underneath this gas mask," Atkinson said.
Atkinson is cutting, polishing and shaping some of the most unique minerals and fossils in the world. The dust can be lethal, which is why he wears the gear.
On Wednesday, Atkinson was working on a huge piece of agatized coral, about 25 million years old. He pulled the piece out of a southern Georgia river himself 20 years ago and has been waiting all this time to work on it.
"This is probably some of the most interesting material in the world," he said.
Many people work with these kinds of materials, but what makes Atkinson different from most other rock hounds is that most of his work revolves around the imperfect pieces.
Most mineral collectors are interested in complete mineral specimens, not broken, imperfect pieces.
"I've figured out a way to utilize the broken pieces," Atkinson said.
He takes the imperfect pieces, which can be crystalline, agate or any other sought-after mineral, polishes them and mounts them with other minerals.
It's lapidary art, or mineral art, he explained, and it's something he's been fore-fronting in the world for about 17 years.
"I'm not trying to upstage Mother Nature," he said.
For the mineral art, he mainly accentuates what is already there.
Recently, Atkinson has shifted some of his attention to a different kind of art, using fossils.
The fine arts world doesn't recognize lapidary art, Atkinson said. Most buyers are people who have an interest in the mineral itself, not the artistic integrity behind it.
To attempt to break into the fine arts field, Atkinson has taken some of the ideas of lapidary art to create a style of sculpture that he believes is completely unique.
He creates modern sculptures out of fossilized rock.
About 10 years ago Atkinson began buying giant slabs of fossilized nautilus shells imbedded in African limestone. A nautilus is the spiral shell of an ancient squid-like creature.
Atkinson sees designs in the rock while the shells are still in the flat slabs and then draws them in. Using traditional sculpting tools, he carves the design around the fossils in the limestone. The shells can be the centerpiece of the sculpture or just part of the medium.
Atkinson is starting to get some recognition for his fossil art. On Sept. 8, he won best fine art sculptor at the Castle Rock Art Fest 2002.
To Atkinson, it's the same as other artists carving out of stone, but the stone has fossils.
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It says: "Say something nice about Camden."
The billboard is the brainstorm of Manhattan communications executive Jennifer Barton, who once worked in the city. She's put up a website and a Facebook page of the same name to try to encourage the compliments.
Barton tells The Philadelphia Inquirer she wants to raise the visibility of good things in the city, which has a vibrant community garden scene.
The city of 77,000 near Philadelphia has had a rough time. It's among the nation's most impoverished and violent.
So far this year, there have been 63 homicides. That's the most ever in the city.
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Endothelial dysfunction is an underlying molecular mechanism in ischemia-reperfusion injury of the heart, and has been shown to affect infarct size in myocardial infarction. Myocardial infarction and other coronary heart disease are major health problem that especially affects millions of older people in the United States alone. This damage occurs in part in response to endothelial dysfunction caused by oxidative stress, which increases when blood vessels reperfused ischemic heart tissue. Thus, agents that modulate the redox environment of the heart are potentially useful for treating coronary heart disease. For this reason, our laboratory has been characterizing thioredoxin (Trx), an endogenous enzyme that can reduce oxidative stress and regenerate proteins that have been inactivated by oxidation. In conjunction with this research, we developed two transgenic mouse lines that have altered Trx activity: one (Trx-Tg) overexpresses the protein, whereas the other (dnTrx-Tg) expresses an inactive Trx and thus acts as a conditional Trx knockout. As we characterized these unique mice, we discovered that aged TrxTg mice are protected against myocardial infarction in response to ischemia- reperfusion (I/R), whereas those deficient in Trx, like wild type, undergo extensive myocardial damage. Thus, we hypothesize that increased levels of Trx activity can afford protection against endothelial dysfunction. This hypothesis leads to the Specific Aims of this proposal:
Aim 1 will establish the role of Trx in endothelial dysfunction arising from I/R injury;
Aim 2 will explore potential mechanisms of these effects;
and Aim 3 will determine whether Trx increases the expression of mitochondrial superoxide dismutase as a contributor to protection against endothelial dysfunction. The outcomes of this project will contribute to our understanding of endothelial cell dysfunction in cardiovascular diseases such as atherosclerosis, and propel the development of Trx as a real novel therapeutic approach to treat cardiovascular disease as exogenously added Trx is avidly taken up by endothelial cells.
Coronary heart disease (CHD) remains a major cause of morbidity and mortality in aged American population (AHA 2006. For example, only 0.14% population under the age of 39 was diagnosed with CHD, whereas a staggering 55% of populations over the age of 40 were diagnosed with CHD. Studies proposed in this application will investigate the role of thioredoxin, an endogenous small protein in protecting against myocardial infarction using a transgenic mice model with higher or lower expression of thioredoxin. If successful, these studies will lead into clinical trial of thioredoxin as a therapeutic molecule for treatment of heart in heart failure and other diseases related to obstruction of blood flow.


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Dear Abby: When parents who live many miles away from their adult children visit their homes, to what extent should they be treated as "guests"? When we visit our son, our daughter-in-law gets herself a snack and then sits down to eat it and watch TV, and there we sit. She never offers us a thing. Are we expecting too much, or doesn't she have any manners?
Also, when we have a meal in their home, they get their own beverages and never mention anything about what is available to us. We're not used to this kind of treatment.
Have you any thoughts on how to handle this without causing any rift?
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Dear Disrespected: Assume that your daughter-in-law behaves this way because she doesn't know any better. As for your son, because he wasn't raised this way, he is either thoughtless, rude or following his wife's lead.
Because you're all family, things should be informal. The way to handle it is to speak up and tell your hosts that you're hungry and/or thirsty, too. If it's said with a smile, it shouldn't cause a rift.
Dear Abby: "Bill" and I have gone together for three years. We have talked about taking our relationship to the next level. I'm hesitant because I suspect he's a high-functioning alcoholic.
Bill doesn't seem to crave a drink when he's with me, but he does crave being in bars in the company of men who sit for hours over drinks and then get out on the roads.
I don't want to be his mother or his hall monitor, but I have begun to suspect I shadow his denial. I'm afraid I have become his enabler.
We are in our early retirement years, and the thought that his drinking will get worse has made me afraid.
I love Bill. I can't seem to move forward, yet I resist walking away.
We have discussed my feelings many times, and he says he has cut down the amount he drinks and there's nothing to worry about. Yet, I have this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
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Because of the language in your letter, it appears you are already familiar with alcoholism and how it affects relationships. It would be a good idea for you to attend some Al-Anon meetings before your relationship with Bill goes further because he may be in denial about the importance of alcohol in his life. The meetings are easy to find; Al-Anon is listed in your phone directory and can be found at al-anon.org.
Dear Abby: More and more I receive emails from people using the closing salutation "Best." I think this must be incorrect. Shouldn't it be "Best regards" or "Best wishes"? To say simply "Best" seems somehow lacking. What is accurate?
— Tandi in Connecticut
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just….just stop.
Dear ugh: You have now ensured that I WILL NOT. At least for the next 35 minutes or so.
So, you guys like this planking thing, or what?
In addition to checking and re-checking Frontburner for something interesting and listening to the great Eric Nadel/Steve Busby Rangers radio team, I'm preparing Friday's animal-friendly edition of http://www.readlarrypowell.com and wondering if D Magazine would pay good money to someone who can authoritatively discuss the American Shaarwaat phenomenon, Aurora, Texas. and the connection to the Grassy Knoll and the constantly disappointing DISD.
Define "good money."
Trying to come up with reasons the Mavericks need a Victory Cook Book. Got any?
Winners need to celebrate, and I guess you might need food to do that?
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Screw you, Crain. Screw. You. Do you hear me? Crain? Crain? I said screw you. Are listening. Go screw yourself. Do it. Go screw yourself. Crain? Crain! Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiin!!!!!!
@Wiz: I like everything about this comment.
@ Zac – can I quote you on that?
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Thought you'd like that. You seem so, I dunno, down on your bloggers lately.
Erroneous, Wizard!
Fighting with Amy S.
No RAB, we made up, see my comment on other page. XOXO. Is it too early to have a glass of wine?
zac….planking is on it's way out and owling is in. i have seen photos of owling and planking combined. owling is where you take photos of yourself sitting like and making faces like an owl, in various backgrounds.
Dear Amy S:
What? I deep into the wine and just pulled this up.
Sorry, I didn't your comment. The curators of FB, in their unfathomable wisdom, seem to have taken down all of my posts (even though there was no profanity or ad hominem attacks).
(Maybe Mr. Crain can restore them.)
Anyway, I hereby pass the wine baton to you. Run with it, girl!
Dear Zac, just caught the tag – robletting. Brilliant. I am busy working on my bromography.
RAB – 9 Points Chardonnay, from the Stag's Leap District. 10% discount at Tom Thumb when you buy 6 bottles.
Already into the cognac. Bizarrely, all the posts have been restored. Maybe it was the margaritas bewitching my refresh tab.


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Jay-Z is apparently up to much more in the United Kingdom than just recording Watch The Throne with Kanye West. The rapper has been inking some deals with artists from across the Atlantic over the past few weeks. Previously, he picked up singer Cher Lloyd, who can be seen here singing her own version of "Hard Knock Life." And now, Jigga's expanded the Roc Nation roster yet again with the addition of London-based rapper K Koke. The deal links together Koke's Suspect Entertainment, Roc Nation, and its parent corporation RCA.
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Apparently it's not final....yet. Hmph.
I dont see why not he has a diverse artist, and its good that roc nation have a variety of artist.
Finally K Koke is seen for what he is.....
deep guy!
Well done man
UK for life!!
Hes sold his soul, expect crap music from koke now.
Just coz he sold his soul doesnt mean he'll become crap.. he's still lyrically talent and jay'z beats and producing is AMAZING so i reckon he'll continue making great music.. but selling his soul will make him go through alot of problems and hatred
good for k-koke.
local talent.
Few bars, thats it. not there for a sign ragged
some bars, but a sign??? nahh jim.
yhh its koke dunkno
Yesss! obviously it was a good decision, ive been listenin to this guy for 3 years and finally he would get recognised. BIG UP K KOKE FOR HOLDING IT DOWN FOR NORTH WEEZY AND LONDON!!!!
been listening to koke for years now , glad hes signed , just not to jay-z label , KILLUMINATI
jay z crap ting cant take koke from the streets
Getting real tired of these uk and French rappers stealing USA ish' and repackaging that ish'. Like he stole fat Joe or peedy crack ish'....really saying the same ish' I alreay heard!! "Stonebridge"...."queensbridge, ny"...cmon be different!!!
k koke is a don he should be signed hes been in the game for time and deserves this opportunity he speaks bout his life not rubbish say nuffin !!
dun knoe koke check out L Zee on youtube hes a london boy hus been through alot and his bars are sick
Uhhh we've all been thru alot....its all alot of redundant BS!!! What rapper you know who ever said "they haven't been thru alot???" hmmmmm If that's the only criteria then the game would be crowded...as it is already!!!
k. koke is doin his ting he has been spitting for time so give him his props he could have give up like nuff uk rappers i no but he still kept the words coming so big bruv and tell the world the real uk road storys...
any k koke hater listen to ride on, wheels fall off, watchin me and then tell me if it was worth signing
K Koke Goes Hard Nuff Said I wanna see his label ep debut he's reppin da uk mandem styll proper sign for jay regardless
average, its up to jayz i wouldnt
but still hes alright in an average way
compare that to ryhmne asylum
get my point these guys are like dem wack grimEe artistS
but its ok ive heard worse
u can tell bare white ppl commenting looool
this guy jus got signed to ROC Nation too. He's white too lol...pretty tight song...all the best to PRODi-J..hes one good white rapper. Whats with Jay-Z going to the UK for and now Canada? http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/en/play/s/6b779d7-178803/
fuk it koke sold his soul now hes just gonna rap bout money n not the streets of london
PRODi-J from TORONTO, CANADA the TRUTH HOMIE!!!! Jay-z signed him? FIRST K-KOKE NOW PRODi-J!! WHITE BOYS STAND UP!! PRODi-J is so fresh man, RESPECTS FROM THE UK!!
k koke is goin in finally gettin signed, bare white ppl commenting??? k koke is white himself u eediot....5 in ya chin


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