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February 23, 2009
That orange with a straw stuck in it.
106 comments:
- Justin said...
What an odd thing to complain about.
But from a marketing perspective, the orange with the straw in it is definitely a better image. You can pour a glass of OJ with any brand. But only Tropicana tastes like it came straight from the orange. Or so the imagery suggests. - 2/23/09, 7:55 AM
- MadisonMan said...
You know, I noticed the new cartons at Sentry earlier this month -- all white, as I recall -- and remember thinking Why?
I think marketing idjits sometimes advocate change just so they can tell the company that they're working hard for the money. It surprises me when a company believes them -- the upper management needs to read more Dilbert. - 2/23/09, 7:59 AM
- Pogo said...
Bi-i-ig ovary, tiny tiny phallus.
Drinking Tropicana orange juice makes me feellike I have gotten Koro', the Indonesian shrinking penis disease.
No thanks. - 2/23/09, 8:01 AM
- rhhardin said...
I like the mustard packages with a picture of a bottle of mustard on the outside.
The glass of OJ is a little the same way. Showing what's in the container by showing it in some other container.
Then there's the coloring book with the cover picture of a pig carrying that same coloring book with the picture...
I didn't notice the logo change, nor do I even recognize the old one. It must be a marketing scheme in some other medium.
Genitalia isn't my first impression, but if you go that way the current logo would be female. - 2/23/09, 8:06 AM
- Slave Laborer George #3W7D said...
Bite the wax tadpole.
Whatever the truth is, it's good publicity for a non-essential product in hard times. If you go to the NYT story, there's a giant photo of the product.
No harm to the brand, only warm fuzzies. - 2/23/09, 8:09 AM
- Mr. Forward said...
There once was a Professor of Law
Seduced by an Orange with a Straw.
What turned her head
Was breakfast in bed.
That Sexy Peel left her in awe. - 2/23/09, 8:09 AM
- Simon said...
Perhaps Pepsi could go back to the old style can design while they're at it. I thought that the red, white and blue design was elegant and classic, as opposed to the very adolescent, MTV designs adopted since.
- ricpic said...
Slightly OT - The greatest logo ever was the Sunoco Pegasus. Why they did away with it is beyond me.
- chuck b. said...
Last night I had dinner at a restaurant that had ice cream-filled oranges on the desert menu (like this: http://tw0.us/sc). Didn't get it. Too full from dinner, and what freak wants ice cream on a cold, rainy day.
- dbp said...
Sometimes an orange with a straw stuck in it is just an orange with a straw stuck in it.
- Christy said...
My first reaction on reading this was "why would anyone complain?" Then I remembered encountering those new containers at the grocery last week. Rather than reading the new white labels to figure out my usual "no pulp," I grabbed a never-tried colorful local brand that brightly informed me what was in it.
I couldn't tell you half the brands I buy; I grab the familiar package. I'm the older, undesirable demographic with my brands firmly established, even if I don't know what they are.
8 oz OJ gives you 120% of your daily need of Vitamin C. Remember those tiny OJ glasses? - 2/23/09, 8:16 AM
- ricpic said...
If I'm not mistaken Pepsi didn't do away with the red, white and blue bands, they just changed the way the bands undulated around the can. Makes no sense to me.
- rhhardin said...
I'm still looking for the left hand side of the $1000 sunny dollar.
- Palladian said...
Yay! I hated the new graphic design - too much white space, the label gave an impression of emptiness and was actually harder to spot in the refrigerated case than the old one. The new typography was an unimpressive, slightly anorexic looking sans-serif of the (overused) sort that looks like a European generic product. And the boob-like mini-orange cap was harder to open and harder to close than the old non-representational orange ribbed cap. The new design also featured the inclusion of some irritating "hey look, we're 'green'!" corporate twaddle, which seemed like a scam to collect personal data from customers.
Graphic design of packaging and labeling in America has been tumbling right down the slope of ugly mediocrity for the last 10 or 15 years so it's good to see someone put on the brakes for a change. - 2/23/09, 8:27 AM
- Palladian said...
"If I'm not mistaken Pepsi didn't do away with the red, white and blue bands, they just changed the way the bands undulated around the can. Makes no sense to me."
It was to make it look more like the Obama logo. - 2/23/09, 8:31 AM
- Palladian said...
Pepsi also adopted for itself the wan-looking san-serif type that was so ineffective on the new Tropicana packaging.
- Slave Laborer George #3W7D said...
Why did the Sunoco Pegasus vanish?
a) Redundant due to the merger of Socony (Sunoco) with Esso, creating Exxon.
b) No one in the modern age understood the mythological reference;
c) The design was not a clean, fast read.
That double 'x' spelling got a lot of press way back when. It was a radical step in corporpate branding
Mad magazine joked that Nixon had also changed his name:
"No matter how you spell it, it's still the same old gas." - 2/23/09, 8:36 AM
- TMink said...
If that straw is indeed a phallic symbol, it is not very complimentary. Men would never buy it if that were so.
Trey - 2/23/09, 8:37 AM
- Simon said...
This is clean, elegant, distinctive, and classic product design. This isn't. - 2/23/09, 8:39 AM
- Bob said...
The new Tropicana packaging looks like it is a store-brand or generic, instead of brand-name Tropicana. Big mistake, although I personally like the new packaging.
- traditionalguy said...
Why the race to look different from all the old icons? There seems to be a false wisdom in being lead by the children's instead of the adult's sensibilities. In the short run, that amounts to branding suicide. Perhaps the digital age's "new product of the month" is the money shot of the present generation and they want all old stuff put down a memory hole. FYI, the Store Brands and Tropicana usually come from the same cannery/packers and the extra money is for the Brand packaging's hint of quality and two way loyalty relationship. So throwing that Packaging away is like Tropicana wanting to relearn the New Coke lesson.
- Slave Laborer George #3W7D said...
Be Sociable.
Have a Pepsi.
Through the 1950s, this fizzy sugar water was marketed as a dietetic alternative to Coke that people in the 'smart' fashionable set drank.
Masterful examples of illustration advertising art. And copywriting. - 2/23/09, 8:41 AM
- Palladian said...
Which of these designs is more effective at creating a distinctive graphic impression of the product.
- Palladian said...
Coca-Cola is better than Pepsi anyway. Where I come from, Pepsi is a trailer park drink.
- SteveR said...
Didn't Mobil (actually Magnolia Petroleum) have the pegasus?
- Pogo said...
Sometimes a straw is just a straw.
But OMG, the old Tropicana was like buying a Penis-Melting Zionist Robot Comb. Maybe it worked for women. Men don't buy much OJ anyway; that stuff can kill ya ....ba dum bum.
Seen another way, the old Tropicana package had a very ample orange on it. Not some wan, anorexic thing, but voluptuous and full. Like Kate winslet ingesting that thin little straw, Gwyneth Paltrow. - 2/23/09, 8:49 AM
- Palladian said...
This is clean, elegant, distinctive, and classic product design. This isn't."
Simon, that sort of uglification happened to everything. It was the iconoclastic effect of postmodernism coupled with the transition from hand-work to digital work in graphic design. Everything became too overdone, too baroque with a surfeit of drop-shadows, overlays, gradients, asymmetry, and a confusing excess of typefaces. - 2/23/09, 8:51 AM
- traditionalguy said...
Being an Atlanta native,the Coca-Cola and Pepsi wars are well remembered here. Pepsi being in second place always tried harder, 10 oz instead of 6 oz, and lively advertising, suchas "More bounce to the Once", reminding you which cola was more to drink. But Coke's branding did very well anyway. In Atlanta itself Loyalty to Coke is still Palpable. The ongoing cola wars are as cutthroat as ever. May the best Corn-syrup and water drink win.
- Darcy said...
Sometimes an orange with a straw stuck in it is just an orange with a straw stuck in it.
Yup! - 2/23/09, 8:54 AM
- Pogo said...
I always though Pepsi was made mainly to pour down the sink; a plumbing purgative.
- traditionalguy said...
Oh yeah, the Original 6 0z coke bottle (with the bottling city written in the green glass on the bottom) will be forever the greates Phallic marketing icon, pre-dating Freud's popularity.
- Palladian said...
"May the best Corn-syrup and water drink win."
There's some flavoring in there as well.
By the way, it's almost the time to stock up on Kosher-for-Passover Coca-Cola, which is Coke made the way Nature and Nature's God intended: with real cane sugar rather than corn syrup. - 2/23/09, 8:58 AM
- Pogo said...
Can anyone tell I don't do the shopping?
I wouldn't be able to buy certain items because the graphics horrified me, or buy a half dozen of something because of the sexy orange on it. - 2/23/09, 8:59 AM
- commenter said...
In the morning when i jog at the park there is a pepsi distributer at one end of the track. It amazes me how many of these trucks rollout in the morning spewing burnt diesel fumes in the airspace where i do my rehabilitating walk part of my morning exercises and take deep cleansing brathes, or try so to say.
I often think of the old fashion milk truck that would deliver milk on the back porch when i see these guys rolling out before dawn. Then i think of my childhood dream where coke or pepsi would be delivered via faucet and spigot. That all
was spoiled in math class when our teacher stuck an iron nail in a glass of coke and told us to watch. Think of my old iron pipes with cola running through them. Oh, I so did love geometry and algebra with that man. I really did. - 2/23/09, 9:06 AM
- traditionalguy said...
Pallidian... There are places in Atlanta wher pepsi cannot be found stocked alongside the Coke products."You are either for us, or you are against us" is an original Cola Wars thought. The Emory University Campus is one such place. Of course a half a billion dollar endowment from Woodruff, and founding moneys from Candler create permanent loyalty from Coca-Cola U.
- ricpic said...
Fear Factor
A shrinking penis,
A bloated twat;
The last he's seen is
Swallowed! what WHAT?! - 2/23/09, 9:15 AM
- Lem said...
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- AlgonquinS said...
You can take orange juice and make a screwdriver.
- Lem said...
What else can you do with orange juice?
Morir Soñando... delicioso - 2/23/09, 9:18 AM
- EDH said...
New Tropicana packaging is way too washed out. First thing I said to myself when I saw it. Especially for a product they try to differentiate.
The round orange had a clear, well defined perimeter. Old green lettering was more rustic. You'd think they'd focus group this stuff.
The greatest logo ever was the Sunoco Pegasus. Why they did away with it is beyond me.
It's still all over the Mobil stations around here. For example, the Pegasus is the icon you hold the MobEx "Speedpass" up to at Mobil pumps. - 2/23/09, 9:22 AM
- Graham Nash said...
From the man who rails against yuppies and pretends to be of the people: "Coca-Cola is better than Pepsi anyway. Where I come from, Pepsi is a trailer park drink."
Trailer park? What's wrong with trailer parks, you snob. - 2/23/09, 9:27 AM
- ricpic said...
EDH - My mistake calling it the Sunoco Pegasus. You're right, it's the Mobil Pegasus and it's still in use.
- Pogo said...
I am also not allowed to buy pastries, given my wont to sexualize everything.
Long johns? Doughnuts?
Oh my; I 'd never leave.
Anyway, most logo changes smack of the desperation of plastic surgery among 70 year olds. Please, don't do it. If people aren't buying as they used to, it ain't likely the logo.
To me, Pepsi a an aluminum can regenerating company. - 2/23/09, 9:31 AM
- Pogo said...
Pepsi is an...
- Darcy said...
I am also not allowed to buy pastries, given my wont to sexualize everything.
Could that explain the lack of pants? ;-) - 2/23/09, 9:34 AM
- Palladian said...
I spent 4 of my first 5 years living in a single-wide trailer in a trailer park, AJD, so I'm allowed to write such things. I also learned my valuable interpersonal skills there. Fuck off.
- LarsPorsena said...
"Trailer park? What's wrong with trailer parks, you snob."
They attract too many tornadoes. - 2/23/09, 9:39 AM
- Pogo said...
Pantslessness is an acquired taste, Darcy, favored mostly amongst cartoon marsupials.
As for trailer parks, they were designed with the intention to serve as a place to despise, to arise from and never return to, to escape, to supercede, to improve upon, to have been from, but with no intention on returning..
Not unlike hailing from Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Without trailer parks, white trash would have to revert to living in abandoned school buses. And that would be cruel. Plus the supply is limited. - 2/23/09, 9:44 AM
- mcg said...
Why is a tornado like a wife? It screams when it comes and takes your house when it goes.
Anyway, I share some people's curiosity that there are enough people out there that took it upon themselves to complain. I suppose the absolute number was likely small, and the marketing wonks thought "if this many actual complaints are coming in, the number of people who don't like it but are silent must be quite large." Even so, I'm surprised that people actively complain about such things.
Then again, it is not really fair to complain about people expending energy on such things if the marketing geniuses are going to spend energy and money changing something that was fine in the first place. - 2/23/09, 9:53 AM
- Shanna said...
By the way, it's almost the time to stock up on Kosher-for-Passover Coca-Cola, which is Coke made the way Nature and Nature's God intended: with real cane sugar rather than corn syrup.
You can buy Mexican Coke (with sugar) now at the yuppie grocery store here called Fresh Market. It comes in bottles and I think it's 2 or 3 dollars a piece.
On OJ, Simply Orange is the best anyway. - 2/23/09, 10:04 AM
- Slave Laborer George #3W7D said...
If you are not from the South, it may be difficult to comprehend the psychic importance that Coca-Cola--and Delta Airlines--had in years past.
They were possibly the first two corporate national consumer-brand giants to rise from destroyed infrastructure and a source of incredible customer loyalty. - 2/23/09, 10:29 AM
- rhhardin said...
North Carolina's quarter is a trailer park with tornados on the horizon. At least that was the plan.
Vermont has a guy peeing on a tree. - 2/23/09, 10:37 AM
- traditionalguy said...
Coca-Cola must be a "base" used by Dr Pemberton to settle people's over acidic stomachs. When old batteries had the terminals with cable connections that were corroded with that greenish fuzz stuff, the old timers would say to pour a Coke on it, and it worked. The world still sees a coca-cola logo as the symbol of American economic imperialism that was the first introduced into their cultures.
- Chip Ahoy said...
The New York Times reports customers complained.
That doesn't mean people complained. It means people noticed and wrote or called or emailed their preference, providing valuable feedback and NYT reported it as people complaining.
I actually complained when Helmsman's changed their recipe for mayonnaise. They wrote back saying they believed the change was for the better. But they got my vote, and rejected my opinion. I've been making my own mayonnaise ever since. It's fun! And it's 500% better, and that's within my customary 12% exaggeration for dramatic effect. - 2/23/09, 10:59 AM
- Darcy said...
Cute, Chip. I miss your links to recipes!
- Christy said...
There has been nothing more phallic in advertisements than the early Joe the Camel.
John Steinbeck has a 6 page paean to mobile homes in his 1962 Travels With Charlie. He saw this new trend as the epitome of modern living. Bizarre reading it at this remove. - 2/23/09, 11:08 AM
- Beth said...
Yankees drink Pepsi. A Northern chain bought up a local drugstore and stocked up on Pepsi instead of Coke. This was significant enough to make the newspaper. There are Pepsi drinkers here, but it's a nasty habit they acquired somewhere up North.
Sorry, I had a moment of Southernness.
Pepsi just ain't Coke. Coke is the good stuff. - 2/23/09, 11:23 AM
- Beth said...
They attract too many tornadoes.
Laugh now, but I believe someday, some researcher will find an attraction between a critical mass of aluminum and the steering currents of tornadoes. - 2/23/09, 11:26 AM
- Joe said...
The danger of too many MBAs. This isn't the first time braniacs at companies did something tremendously stupid and the company reacted like a deer caught in the headlights before going back to the tried and true. In addition to New Coke, there was the Honeycomb cereal fiasco (well almost all of Post cereals) and several other instances where dickweeds at companies thought they were smarter than everyone who preceded them.
(My theory on how to fix the world: step one--get rid of all MBA programs. No, that was step two. Step one was shoot all the lawyers.) - 2/23/09, 11:31 AM
- Slave Laborer George #3W7D said...
Suggestive is your Chanel.
Share the fantasy.
here - 2/23/09, 11:33 AM
- Palladian said...
"Pepsi just ain't Coke. Coke is the good stuff."
I love you Beth. - 2/23/09, 11:42 AM
- mcg said...
Has anyone here been to the Coca Cola museum in Atlanta? It looked pretty cool but we had just spent the morning in the Georgia State Aquarium and that was enough for us. Next time we're there I might have to check it out.
- dbp said...
Beth said...
"They attract too many tornadoes.
Laugh now, but I believe someday, some researcher will find an attraction between a critical mass of aluminum and the steering currents of tornadoes."
I think the relationship is that trailer parks are situated on flat open land. Tornadoes hate hills and forrests. Hide your house there and you will only have to worry about flash floods and forrest fires, but not tornadoes. - 2/23/09, 11:52 AM
- Darcy said...
Oh, damn it! I wish I'd said that before Beth. :)
- Christy said...
Thank you, Slave Laborer George #3W7D, much more to my liking.
Nothing like an ice cold Co-Cola in a metal tumbler. - 2/23/09, 12:00 PM
- Tibore said...
"Pogo said...
Pantslessness is an acquired taste, Darcy, favored mostly amongst cartoon marsupials..."
I must disagree. I'm no marsupial, nor cartoonish, yet I'm sitting here ...uhhh ... probably sharing too much... yeah... (*blush*) - 2/23/09, 12:05 PM
- Pogo said...
I did say mostly.
- Tibore said...
- Ralph said...
My grandmother would add Coke and OJ to the water when boiling a country ham. She also made mayo in a blender. My dad would eat it with a spoon.
I thought Simply Orange was awful--biting and bitter.
Why did Sinclair Oil have a dinosaur? That's the only thing I remember of the 64 World's Fair, so it was a successful logo. - 2/23/09, 12:57 PM
- traditionalguy said...
What do people like to drink in Wisconsin, apart from Beer. Do the dairys push yogourt drinks? I suspect there are no wineries under all that ice and snow. Perhaps Pepsi Cola is your favorite soft drink, not that there is anything wrong with that. Do the Norwegians make salted fish drinks? My mind goes to Prarie Home Companion images.
- Michael said...
70 comments about this?
Get-a-life... - 2/23/09, 1:14 PM
- Christy said...
Nothing worse than rancid orange juice, is there?
- Beth said...
Palladian, I'm feeling the love. It's the real thing. The way it should be.
- Beth said...
Christy: rancid bacon.
You asked! - 2/23/09, 1:26 PM
- John Stodder said...
Michael said...
70 comments about this?
You're the one who spent your morning reading them.
By the way, did anyone else notice at the link that NPR doesn't know the difference between an "aisle" and an "isle?" Here was the headline: "Frozen Food Isle Benefits From Recession." - 2/23/09, 1:43 PM
- Palladian said...
"Palladian, I'm feeling the love. It's the real thing. The way it should be."
I think my fierce Coke partisanship comes from my southern grandmother who would allow no other carbonated beverage in the house.
Need proof of my devotion to Coca-Cola? Me in 1980. - 2/23/09, 1:54 PM
- Palladian said...
"By the way, did anyone else notice at the link that NPR doesn't know the difference between an "aisle" and an "isle?" Here was the headline: "Frozen Food Isle Benefits From Recession.""
I can understand their confusion. NPR people don't do frozen food. - 2/23/09, 1:56 PM
- Pogo said...
The Frozen Food Isle was an important early victory for Japan in WW2.
From there they hoped to attack the US mainland, first with fish sticks and bomb pops, then TV dinners. - 2/23/09, 2:03 PM
- Pogo said...
Man, Palladian, that's some serious Coke worship.
- Oligonicella said...
Alt·hou·sian -(Àlt tousÃn, -z" Ãn), adj.
1. of or pertaining to people who imagine sexual innuendo in almost every visual or textual subject they encounter. - 2/23/09, 2:07 PM
- traditionalguy said...
Palladian... one of my grandmothers, and an aunt-in-law worked at the CoCa-Cola company (the real syrup maker on North avenue next to Georgia Tech) and in 1955 the employees all threatened to go on strike because a new company President banned coffee from the premises. Needless to say, it was the new guy who blinked first. The political power of Robert Woodruff in the 1950's era was enormous(and Cedarford he was not Jewish),but he was just another Atlanta guy raised in the early 1900,s like his friend Bobby Jones, the golfer from the 1920's. Needless to say Coke is the only soft drink served at the Masters golf Tournament in Augusta.
- Roost on the Moon said...
- Christy said...
Beth, I'll take your word for it about rancid bacon. I love it too much for it to stay around long enough to go bad. Though my comment was more about opening a fridge door/blog looking for nourishing goodness and being slapped in the face with the spoiled, the bitter, and the rancid.
- madawaskan said...
with the spoiled, the bitter, and the rancid.
kinda like opening a post here and finding titus, Michael and Cedarford all on the same thread... - 2/23/09, 3:03 PM
- Jason (the commenter) said...
I think my fierce Coke partisanship comes from my southern grandmother who would allow no other carbonated beverage in the house.
In my family we were only allowed Pepsi in the house. But now that I make my own decisions, I buy Coke (or the store brand).
I've also betrayed Fleischmann's margarine (with butter) and Miracle Whip (with Hellmann's).
Yes, we bought the fancy margarine. - 2/23/09, 3:08 PM
- Dust Bunny Queen said...
Pepsi just ain't Coke. Coke is the good stuff
And you haven't had real Coke until you've had the south of the border made with cane sugar coke. There is no comparison. - 2/23/09, 3:22 PM
- Beth said...
Christy, that sounds like a new TV show.
I don't let bacon or OJ stay around long enough to go bad, but I once reached overhead for a tray in a walk-in fridge and discovered a lost bacon supply. It was unforgettable. - 2/23/09, 3:28 PM
- Beth said...
I'll have to scope out some of that cane sugar Coke - I suppose that's the stuff I grew up on in the sixties?
I'm all for cane sugar - it's a major Louisiana crop (and so is citrus, since that's on-topic today). - 2/23/09, 3:39 PM
- Pogo said...
Screw corn syrup. That subsidized crap has ruined us all.
Yay for cane sugar.
I'm allowed to criticize 'cause my state grows the noxious stuff for syrup and ethanol. yes, MN is a Mogan David-Boone's Farm-Ripple-wine cooler state. - 2/23/09, 3:48 PM
- AllenS said...
The coke you can get south of the border will burn a hole in your nose.
- Palladian said...
"I'll have to scope out some of that cane sugar Coke - I suppose that's the stuff I grew up on in the sixties?"
Yup. There are many conspiracy theories that suggest that the introduction of "New" Coke in the 1980s was simply to provide cover for the switch-over from cane sugar to HFCS. They introduced "New" Coke, withdrew "Real" Coke long enough, they thought, that people would forget what sugar-sweetend Coke tasted like, then axed "New" Coke and introduced "Coke Classic" which was the old flavor formula with the cane sugar replaced by HFCS. But it does taste different, it has a different "mouth feel" than the sugar-sweetened Coke. Look for the Mexican-bottled stuff or look around for Kosher-for-Passover Coke, which has a yellow cap with Hebrew letters printed on it.
Unfortunately Coke doesn't keep very long so it's impossible to stock up enough for the whole year. If you want, I can score you a bottle or two of the Passover Coke, Beth. I live in a neighborhood full of orthodox Jews and it's readily available. - 2/23/09, 5:02 PM
- Palladian said...
Did I just say I'd score some coke for Beth from the neighborhood Hasidim?!
- Beth said...
Hasidim Passover Coke, huh? Is that protected, like Native American Church Peyote?
If you pick up an extra couple of bottles, I'd love to refresh my memory.
When my family moved to New Orleans in 1975, we moved to Mid-City, a blue-collar neighborhood full of residential streets with corner stores and tracts of warehouses. At our corner was a defunct grocery named FUBAR (the owner was a WWII vet). Despite having closed the store, the guy kept two Coke vending machines out on the street corner, and they were stocked with the 12 oz and 6 oz green glass bottles, for a quarter each. Same price, either size. He kept this up through the end of the 80s, and never raised the price.
There was a wooden bench alongside the store, and it was a daily ritual to stroll down to the corner, sit and enjoy a frosty drink, and leave the bottle in the wooden crate he provided. This was especially wonderful on hot August evenings, when the temperatures had been in the high 90s all day. - 2/23/09, 5:21 PM
- Jason (the commenter) said...
Fleischmann's did the same thing with margarine as Coke did with New Coke. They decided sales were declining because people wanted butter flavor. So they added artificial butter flavor to ALL their products. Everything you made ended up tasting like chemicals. Chemical flavored rice-crispy squares anyone?
And that was after the New Coke fiasco.
P. S. Fleischmann's, people stopped buying your product because it costs 10 times as much as the store brand. Also, it's margarine and that stuff is poison! - 2/23/09, 5:25 PM
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- dbp said...
Palladian, I love a conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but there is an interesting history to sugar in the syrup made by Coca-Cola and other soft drink makers.
Soft drink makers used to ship syrup (sugar plus flavor) to bottlers. Around the same time ( I can't remember the exact dates since I read the business case about 10 years ago) corn sweeteners became available, the bottlers demanded that they be able to purchase flavor concentrate without the sugar in it. They felt like the big companies were overcharging for the sugar portion of the syrup. They may have had a point--even though it is difficult to disentangle the value of the flavor, which is pretty intangible, with the value of the sweetener which is a commodity and therefore has a highly defined value. In any case the bottlers won the contest and as a result, they use the cheapest sweetener they can get, which is corn syrup.
It is too bad for the consumer though. Corn syrup is not the same as sucrose: Sucrose is a dimer of Glucose and Fructose while corn syrup is a mixture of these two monomers. Also, I suspect that bottlers stretch concentrate and so we end up with colas that are too sweet, but bland. They couldn't get away with that when the sugar/flavor ratio was fixed in Atlanta. - 2/23/09, 5:40 PM
- AllenS said...
Traditionalguy asks: "What do people like to drink in Wisconsin, apart from Beer?"
Well, this is the dairy state, so, we have milk in our breakfast cereals, then we have a beer. - 2/23/09, 5:41 PM
- Jason (the commenter) said...
They couldn't get away with that when the sugar/flavor ratio was fixed in Atlanta.
I'm sure Coke could specify the type and concentration of sugar to be used in the contracts they have their bottlers sign. - 2/23/09, 5:48 PM
- dbp said...
They could certainly try. The bottlers wouldn't agree without extracting a concession of some kind--like price...
- Jason (the commenter) said...
They could certainly try. The bottlers wouldn't agree without extracting a concession of some kind--like price...
Yes, but I think it was something decided at Coke, not by the bottlers.
By Coke switching to corn syrup, they kept costs down for everyone and were better able to compete against Pepsi on price, which was gaining market share. - 2/23/09, 6:08 PM
- dbp said...
"es, but I think it was something decided at Coke, not by the bottlers."
You are incorrect. The bottlers, who are independent businesses, purchase their own sweeteners. Coke, has nothing to do with this.
Is it possible that Coca-Cola has (or is tempted to) modify their formula to work better with the prevailing corn sweetener? Maybe. I suspect that that was the reason for New Coke. - 2/23/09, 6:37 PM
- mcg said...
For those of us who also like Dr. Pepper, here's the real thing...
- Jason (the commenter) said...
The bottlers, who are independent businesses, purchase their own sweeteners. Coke, has nothing to do with this.
I don't know. I found this NY Times article that seems to indicate Coke has a big say in what kind of sweetener is used. Of course it is the Times, so who knows if it's true. - 2/23/09, 7:40 PM
- traditionalguy said...
Corn syrup is in almost all sweetened products today. There has been no news release of scientific studies on corn syrup that I have seen, but an obesity epidemic has increasingly flooded the developed world starting in the mid 1980's. It would not surprise me if that is causation, and not mere correlation, due to corn syrup replacing sugar. Have you noticed that even canned Sweet Peas are packed in a sugar and water brine. That is real sugar. It can't be that hard to use the real sugar in our foods.
- dbp said...
For diet drinks the "sweetener" is already added.
- jdeeripper said...


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Hello! My name is Eve. I am a Utah Mormon.
I am part of a group that is increasingly, and rightly, overshadowed in the Church at large. I'm a seventh-generation descendant of pioneers and polygamists (through Benjamin Franklin Johnson alone I'm probably cousin to every fourth person reading this post), and I was raised in the heart of Utah County and the backyard of BYU. I sincerely hope that the minority of which I am a part continues to shrink. I absolutely want to see the Church become more and more linguistically and culturally diverse.
That said, let's get a few stereotypes out of the way and review some basic good manners.
(1) I am not a dolt. Unsupririsingly enough, I speak in the dialect of the region of the country where I was raised. However, this truly amazing instance of linguistic cause-and-effect in my speech patterns really does not, in itself, constitute incontrovertible evidence that I was dropped on my head as child. Just because I speak like the Utahn I am doesn't mean I'm stupid.
A brief review of the dread Utah Accent of which, like apostate levels of narrowminded, fundamentalist zeal, every good Utahn reflexively accuses some other part of Utah of harboring:
(a) The preposition "for" is equivalent to the evergreen; the verbs "feel" and "fill" are indistinguishable.
(b) "Sentence" has one n (the second one); neither "sentence" nor "mountain" has a t.
(c) Especially late in a seh-unce, the present participle is often signaled by a termimal in; in the summer one might frequently be found "goin' swimmin'."
(d) "Controversial" has five syllables.
(e) To make "aunt" inequivalent to "ant" or to pronounce either and neither with long is is to give oneself airs.
(f) Only because I didn't grow up fifty miles further south do I not speak of the "Spart of the Lard."
What can I say? This is my accent. I have no other.
(Oh, and to this day it makes me grin to hear Easterners say "Co-lor-ah-do" and "Ne-vah-da." We are talking about the national gambling capital and the state of legalized prostitution here, right? That would be Ne-vaaa-da.)
(2) I am not hopelessly naive. Yes, I have heard of tank tops, miniskirts, vodka, crack, meth, raves, gangs, porn, and illicit sex. I have even viewed and been offered some of these substances and practices (and no, I won't reveal which ones). No, I am not shocked by the very existence of divorce, alcoholism, poverty, homelessness, mental illness, child abuse, domestic violence, rape, prostitution, or the partaking of the sacrament with one's left hand, to paraphrase Robert Kirby. My childhood was not conducted in a little Kleenex-box diorama in the basement of the Salt Lake Visitors' Center.
(3) I am not plastic. Don't mistake my congenital politeness and reserve in personal interactions for affectation or insincerity.
(4) I am not a hick. While I'm no connoisseur of the arts, nor even much of an informed amateur, I had the obligatory years of music lessons, went to conerts and recitals and art museums, and had access to just about anything I wanted to read through the BYU Library. And yes, I've heard of Marx and Darwin and Freud. Even (gasp!) Heidegger. Once or twice.
(5) I am not a theological oaf. I do not live and die by every word that proceeded out of the mouth of Elder Bruce R. McConkie in the first edition of Mormon Doctrine. I do not confuse the local Republican Party's assemblies with fast and testimony meeting. I am literate and therefore capable of perusing the standard works, First-Presidency statements, and church handbooks and making distinctions between doctrinal principles and widespread cultural practices.
(6) I am neither a sheep nor a spoiled brat. Just because I didn't walk uphill both ways through the snow to early-morning seminary or have to navigate high school norms that made alcohol more or less obligatory does not mean my faith has not met equally severe trials. Being born in the Church did not exempt me from finding my own conversion (and trust me, those of you who've never lived among a large concentration of Mormons–conversion at home has its own peculiar challenges, like seeing one's faith daily blown off by people who embrace it in name only and having every single wart of the Church magnified and shoved in one's face by the local press). Only in Utah has simply declaring my Mormonism been insufficient to exempt me from drugs, partying, or illicit sex (since so many other self-identified Mormons are happily indulging). Only in Utah have I ever had to endure the regular demolishment of my religious convictions in the classroom.
So those of you have never lived in Utah for any length of time, or who dropped in only for four quick years at BYU and never really saw the rest of the sate, please spare me the tales of how cushy my spiritual life has been. Trust me. It hasn't.
(7) I'm painfully aware that Utah culture is weird. But a culture is like a family–unless you're part of it, you ridicule it at your peril. I don't make fun of Catholics, Hindus, Polacks, Jews, or Texans, and when these people make fun of themselves in my presence, I enjoy their ability to laugh at themselves, but I know better than to join in. I am unacquainted with any culture in which it is considered good manners to begin disparaging someone's native place on very first acquaintance. When I introduce myself at church as from Utah, please don't say, "I'm SO sorry!" and laugh at great length at the your own hilarity and at the ridiculousness of what is still–after all is said and done–my home.
(8) Finally, I am not unrepresentative. Don't think you're flattering me by telling me that I'm not really a Utah Mormon or that I'm refreshingly atypical of the denizens of my native state. That's like praising me for my rigorous masculine intellect–or confiding in me in hushed tones your relief that I'm not like those effeminite, wussy women who crumple at the first sign of challenge or disagreement and dissolve into tears. Uh-uh. I am not going to stand idly by and smile thinly while you perform the intellectual gymnastics necessary to sustain your tenuous stereotype by rigorously excluding all of the data (i.e., me) that does not conform to it in every particular.
There! That's much better. Now that we've got all that out of the way, can we be friends?


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You may wish you never felt pain. But pain is often a beneficial warning sign. Without pain, your health can be at risk because you have no idea there's a problem.
This is certainly the case with hypochlorhydria, a condition characterized by an abnormally low level of hydrochloric acid in the stomach, also sometimes called hypohydrochloria.
Look at it this way, antacids stop indigestion pain by reducing gastric acid production. Great. Except gastric acid, also known as hydrochloric acid, is essential for assimilation of vitamin B12 ~ Illustration ~ and many minerals, like magnesium.
Vitamin B12 can't be released from protein without hydrochloric acid. In other words, low hydrochloric acid leads to low vitamin B12 levels. Over time devastating health problems take hold ~ often without the warning sign of pain.
Plus, hydrochloric acid stimulates the pancreas to release enzymes and bile into the small intestine for the digestion and absorption of carbohydrates, proteins, fats, and vitamins A and E. Without enough hydrochloric acid you can have malnutrition even with an excellent diet. Low hydrochloric acid, then, is a serious condition known as hypochlorhydria.
Hypochlorhydria and h.pylori
h. pylori precedes and likely causes gastric hypochlorhydria. h. pylori increases cancer risk by causing hypochlorhydria. Toxigenic Helicobacter pylori infection Clin Cancer Res. 2008.
See Diarrhea regarding Shedding h.pylori.
See Yogurt Making regarding inhibiting h.pylori
Warning Signs of Hypochlorhydria
Bloating, burping or flatulence can be signs of hypochlorhydria. When you don't have enough stomach acid your food doesn't digest properly. Consequently you may find yourself with bloating, etc.
Allergies can be a sign that undigested food particles are getting into your lower intestine.
GERD, a condition where stomach acid rises into the esophagus, giving the impression there's too much stomach acid, may actually be a sign of too little stomach acid.
Premature aging may be a sign of insufficient stomach acid. The reason for this is that people with low stomach acid are likely to have poor nutrition because their bodies are unable to get certain essential nutrients from food.
Cramps in your legs or feet at night are a warning sign that hypochlorhydria is causing poor magnesium absorption.
Hypochlorhydria, Magnesium and Your Metabolism
Hypochlorhydria, that is "insufficient stomach acid", causes poor magnesium absorption and that in turn critically affects metabolism.
I actually now believe that a low red cell magnesium is a symptom of mitochondrial failure. It is the job of mitochondria to produce ATP for cell metabolism and about 40% of all mitochondrial output goes into maintaining calcium/magnesium and sodium/potassium ion pumps. I suspect that when mitochondria fail, these pumps malfunction and therefore calcium leaks into cells and magnesium leaks out of cells. This, of course, compounds the underlying mitochondrial failure because calcium is toxic to mitochondria and magnesium necessary for normal mitochondrial function. This is just one of the many vicious cycles we see in patients with fatigue syndromes… I see low magnesium almost routinely in patients with fatigue syndromes. Dr. Myhill
Myhill offers an interesting observation about serum tests for deficiencies, "Serum levels are maintained at the expense of intracellular levels. If serum levels of magnesium change this causes heart irregularities and so the body maintains serum levels at all cost. It will drain magnesium from inside cells and indeed from bone in order to achieve this."
.Methyl-B12 1,000 mcg 100 lozenges
47% of Americans have hypochlorhydria?
An estimated 47% of people in the U.S. have hypochlorhydria, partially due to increased use of antacids marketed as a good source of calcium. If you have hypochlorhydria your vitamin B12 levels are most likely very low.
Natural Remedies for Hypochlorhydria
Licorice, glutamine, gentian, acupuncture, stimulation of nerves to the stomach through chiropractic all help increase gastric acid.
Symptoms of Low Hydrochloric/Stomach Acid
- stomach bloating
- burping
- upset stomach
- burning
- flatulence
- diarrhea
- nausea from supplements
- rectal itching
- weak, peeling/cracked fingernails
- dilated capillaries in cheeks/nose(in non-alcoholics)
- post adolescent Acne
- iron deficiency
- other mineral deficiencies
- chronic intestinal infection
- undigested food in stool
- ridges/lines on fingernails
- pins and needles]
Using hydrochloric acid or methylcobalamin
Hydrochloric acid, HCL, can be taken by capsule and is excellent to counteract low gastric acid.
If you have peptic ulcers, gastritis, or take NSAIDS, then hydrocholoric acid is not recommended.
Methylcobalamin is a safe, effective alternative to HCL. It replaces the B12 that is radically missing when someone has Hypochlorhydria.
In my experience, Betaine HCL with pepsin is fine, and is not irritating.
Worth a read:
Is Your Antacid Dulling Your Memory?


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Pk played in a more hitter friendly era, but Santo played most of his career in a little bandbox known as Wrigley Field. Cubs fans seem to forget about Santos last year with the White Sox. Santo hit.221 with 5 home runs and 41 rbis in 1974. Those wind blown Wrigley Field Home runs were just long outs at Comiskey Park. Being the cry baby that Santo was I wasn't surprised when Santo blamed White Sox manager Chuck tanner for his dismal 1974 season.
Dangerous territory for us seeing where today's Sox play. I wish the dimensions were bigger, esp. with the likely makeup of the upcoming teams.
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If the Sox offer PK a token offer, he'd be smart to accept it. Jermaine Dye wanted to find out his market value,, and did!
I personally have no problem having Paul on the team next year and going out in style. No one ever wants to end their careers, and he deserves a chance to finish on a high note.
Dye's importance to the team can't be compared to Konerko's. If he thinks sitting on the bench for $1.5M is going out in style, he should be allowed to do it. And I think he wants to keep going! At least Beckham said so not that long ago.
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Gender: female Age: N/A Location: N/A
Posted Wed 25th of March 2009
Story # 3
We sit there, Strange, we both needed history help. He plays with his hair as he concentrates, Twirling it in his fingers nervously, I see him occasionally glance at me and then look back quickly and smile because I'm staring at him. I've never thought of guys before, I've always thought that they were gross assholes, without emotions that only use girls for their parts and sex. Arm candy, that's all the jocks ever want. but he is different, granted he isn't a jock but still, he is sweet, actually cares about me when I'm on a bad mood and asks me what is wrong. We talk alot, we text even more, and we have really gotten to know each other. But back to my feelings, I have never felt this way about someone with a Penis they usually just look over me, don't talk to me, and the ones that do don't seem to care. but He cares, when he looks at me, it isn't at my breasts, its not looking me up and down looking at me body. He looks at my eyes, correction in my eyes, deep within them as though he can see through me... Into me, like he understands. The teacher's phone wakes me from my thoughts of him, it 'sringing.
She asks as she picks up the phone
"No, it couldn't happen, no, I'll be there right away"
She looks up at us, then at her watch.
"My husband just got in a car accident, I have to go to the hospital, Channing I trust you to be a good girl and keep working, no monkey business. I'm going to lock the door so no one comes in and sees you guys unattended."
He looks at me real quick and looks back to his work pretending to work but I can see from here his pen isn't even on the paper. He's thinking, and blushing slightly, from the looks of his face what he is thinking is probably naughty. the teacher gathers her things quickly in a flurry and doesn't even notice a thing, She quickly writes out two after school bus passes and hands them to us and leaves, shutting and locking to door after her, Before the door is even closed he is behind me and grabs my sides gently which always makes me giggle, I squeal and jump out of my seat and jump on the desk. Sitting on it with an exhale of what breath I have left after my squeak. I pretend to look mad at him, but I couldn't be, my mad face turns into a quirky smirk of delight as he sits on the desk across from mine, legs crossed. I look up at him; he is smiling a joyful boyish happy smile. He says
"How are you?"
I think for a second, I'm happy to be here with him but I'm kind of nervous we are alone but he is one of the few guys that I would trust behind a locked door, I know he wont do anything unless I let him, and that he will do everything if I wanted to. Truth is I haven't done anything with anyone, guy or girl, in about a month so I am very very horny.
"I'm pretty good, you know, besides feeling stupid in this class"
"You know, I only stayed after to chill with you, whether we were actually talking or not I enjoy the time that I spend with someone as beautiful as you"
Whenever he complements me I smile, and I feel happiness sneak in to my dark side, I'm not happy alot with myself or with the world, but he is like a bright light in a dark cave.
"Stop it; you are going to make me blush"
"But you look cute, correction, megacute when you blush, Hell, you're megacute all the time"
He's says smiling, and I know he means it, I still question it from time to time, but I think after all this time he really truly thinks that way about me. I look up, and he is standing, looking at me. I look back at him, into his eyes and I see what he is thinking, I've always been curious about him... But I never thought he'd make a move. He puts his hands on either side of my legs, not on them, on the desk outside of my legs. He leans in,
"Are you comfortable with this?"
I look down in embarrassment. I want this, but I don't know, I'm so confused. I can feel my face warming from the deep shade of crimson I'm sure that my face is turning.
"Yea, Depending on what 'this' is, as long as he (And I look down at his pants) stays away, at least until you get me horny enough that I don't care"
He leans in and kisses me gently, but passionately, I can feel his warm breath, the scent of his gum, always intoxicating, always a fruit smell. He continues, kissing me harder, and leaning in pressing his chest against mine. His hand on the end of my knee, slowly reaching up. He continues kissing me, our tongues mingle in between our mouths, and he brushes the hair off my shoulder and kisses my throat, I'm not sure how I feel about this but he seems to enjoy it so I don't stop him.
I slide down off the desk, coming level with his shoulder, and look up at him. He is surprised that I stopped, but happy that I didn't push him away. Our bodies are so close I can feel his heati radiating off onto me, warming me from the outside in. He wraps his arms around me and places his hands on my hips, open palm, and continues where we left off. I break away and giggle as I run up to the front of the room, wanting him to chase me, to hold me again. I can hear him walking, his long strides cover about 3 of mine and he is behind me in no time. There is carpet here to lay down on, more comfy, more options to do things. He wraps his long arms around me and picks me up and sits on the floor with me still standing his arms up holding me.
He plays with the button on my jeans and unbuttons it, but before he gets the zipper down I sit in his lap. He holds his arms around me as I snuggle up to him and we continue kissing. I can feel the large bulge in his pants below me, Kind of annoying but I can ignore it. It has uses... We kiss and kiss and he leans forward and puts me on my back, slipping the jeans off. I don't fight him, his warmth and the horneyness overwhelming. This leaves me in a purple thong, the floor is kind of cold, but I'm warm on the inside and that is all that matters, I take off my shirt leaving myself exposed to him. He kisses at the top of my panty line, moving up kissing my belly button, and then right below the middle strap on my bra. It hooks in the frost and he has it off in no time. Leaving my nipples to the open air, I can feel them hardening before he even has them in his mouth, playing with the one he isn't sucking and gently biting with his mouth, and switched occasionally, I'm getting hornier by the second. He moves up to my mouth and kisses me passionately again and stops before any tongue is involved.
He moves down my body breathing his warm sweet breath on my neck, and kisses it. Then to my left nipple again, kissing and breathing on the way down. Stomach... and then panty line again...... As he slides down my panties slowly, very slowly he kisses every little bit of my skin, an energy growing inside of me, I let out a little moan, and he isn't even all the way down yet.
Once he gets my panties all the way off he doesn't stop, but continues kissing down the side of my thigh, still slow, but going faster, he gets my skimpy purple thong all they way off and lays it aside. He looks up at me, but it takes him a while to reach my eyes, other parts of me being completely exposed... Distracts him. He kisses his way back up again, I can smell his delicious warm breath from here. And the warmth of every exhale sends little jolts up into me, building the energy. He finally reaches it and kisses, but its not a short kiss like all the others, this one is long, his tongue slipping out, just on the outside, far enough in to get me to moan, yet shallow enough not to release the energy.
He shifts positions freeing his right hand and runs it up my thigh while he still likes the outside of my slit, going in deeper with his tongue. His hand finally reaches where he is working magic with his tongue and his fingers slip in, they are long, I can feel them deeper than anything I have ever felt before but he is so gentle it doesn't hurt. He starts with just his pointer, and that is pretty satisfying coupled with his tongue but he doesn't stop there. He slips in his middle finger too and they go in and out the energy nearly reaching the brink. I think I cannot hold it in any longer, and I am right, I suck in air in a quick breath and I moaning, and cumming at the same time.
He doesn't stop, infact he begins to go faster I can hear the faint sucking sounds of his mouth over my opening, and his tongue working on my clit, and the warmth of his breath helps me. I arc my back and moan harder, still cumming as the orgasm makes me push farther into his face. His tongue and fingers both pushing deeper. I continue to moan and feel a pleasure I thought unimaginable. But it continues, I thought I would be done now, the pleasure faded for a second, but I think I'm having a second orgasm. I've never done this before, and he isn't stopping, so the pleasure isn't either. I clench my fists so I don't scream letting a passer by in the hallway the curious to the goings on in this room. I continue Cumming for a good two minutes, and he keeps going licking up all my juices not letting a drop run down my leg,
I'm sweating, on the cold floor, I'm Hot but its cold. It's so good I wish this moment would never stop. But when I think I'm all done Cumming, I think about the bulge in his pants, I enjoy what he is doing but I don't want to leave him hanging. Although.... If I don't look at it then, I won't see it. I will just feel all the pleasure... I make up my mind and dont stop him.
"I'm ready"
He smiles a quirky smile
"For? I thought this was all you wanted to do"
I think again, I thought it was all... But there are some things I want to try
"You mean" I sit up, my nipples hard, sweat still dripping down from my body, that orgasm was intense.
"You don't want this?"
I jump to my feet, my breasts bouncing slightly; I can see he enjoys the view of me standing before him naked. I bend over to pick up my bra and before I touch it he is on his feet stopping me.
"No, No, No, You're not getting dressed till I say so"
He says this with a devilish smile; I know he is enjoying my game.
"Oh, Okay, Yes master"
And I bow before him as I say this
"Now if you really want to, then I guess"
He lets out a false sigh as he takes off his pants, and takes off his briefs, his full erect penis bouncing and it seems as though its looking at me, its pretty big and I think it will feel damn good inside of me.
I smile and look away as he takes his shirt off, his abs beautiful, and his penis sticking out. I also turn around and cover my eyes putting my elbows against the desk bending over slightly; I can feel how horny he is. I know he wants me then and there and I have no intention of stopping him. I feel him come up behind me and pull my hips out farther from the desk, I grasp the edge of the desk, Knowing I'll need it for support, I was told it hurts the first time. I know I will find out soon though.
"Are you sure?"
I moan "Mhm" because before I could answer he was in me, just the tip of it. But it was bigger than anything I've felt down there before, it was HUGE. He pushed further in and I gasped a little because it hurt so much, but it felt so amazing. It was like being eaten out 5 times over and 6 times at once. I was moaning, loudly but I didn't care. It was the best thing I've ever felt. I arched my back, and he pushed in deeper, every thrust making my body rock with pleasure, I was sweating more, and I could feel the warmth building up, "Another orgasm?!" I thought in me head, twice at once was alot, but 3 in one hour? More than I have ever had at one time with someone else before.
He was in as far as he had length and it Amazing, sure it hurt, but after the first few minutes I was ready to scream in pleasure. I could feel the orgasm building up, more and more pleasure as our bodies' rock together as one. Right before I came all over him he pulled it out, I paused before I turned around to see what was wrong. Nothing was wrong, he was smiling. He was waiting for me to turn around. He came up on me and kissed me passionately his erect penis lying on the outside of my opening, kind of rubbing my clit. I was ready to cum again. He was kissing me deep, a kiss with alot of want and need behind it. He picked me up and layed me down on the floor so he was on top, and started again, This time there was no hurt, only solid pleasure, I came immediately. And he kept going although by the way his grip was tightening I knew he was getting close; I didn't know what he wanted me to do to finish him...
We continued that way for what felt like hours, and I looked up to see the time hadn't been going by fast at all, it had only been 30 minutes since we had started. The bus was due in 15; we should be getting done in 10. Perfect timing. He rocked his hips back and fourth into me. My legs open completely and him deep in me, the warmth it was there again, I thought I would die of dehydration if I came again, but I didn't want him to stop. He started kissing me and playing with my nipples with his mouth again. It was intense, He kept going but his kissing was getting farther apart. I knew he was close but so was I. I didn't want him to cum in me, but I figured I'd be done soon. And I wasn't wrong, I arched my back our bodies becoming one for a split second while I came over his hard shaft, he was panting and I could tell he was tired. He rolled over and I knew he was close. I didn't want to but for 4 orgasms I allowed him the pleasure. I got up, still Cumming a little bit, and got on my knees in between his legs. And sucked his shaft, it was his turn to moan in pleasure as he pushed his hips forward, pushing the whole shaft into my mouth. I didn't mind, this was way less gross than I thought, he tasted good, and it didn't hurt me. He came while his head was at the tip of my mouth, my mouth filling with sweet cum. I kept sucking until I was sure he was done and looked up to see we had 5 minutes till the bus came. I got up off my knees and got dressed. He was still panting as he watched me getting dressed. I knew he liked it and I took my time drying the sweat off my body with my shirt. I could tell he liked it, but I reminded him
"4 minutes till the bus comes"
"Ahhh, fuck the bus, I could lay here forever with you"
"Well I have to go home and spend time with my family."
He got up and got dressed; I looked away the penis staring at me. We walked through the hallways holding hands; He was the same as before. We got on the bus and I curled up in his arms, so tired from it all. He stroked my hair and kissed my forehead. I was glad we could have this time after, it, to spend time together.
He whispered to me,
"You're beautiful when you orgasm you know"
I smiled and acted offended and pulled away half heartedly. But he didn't let me go. I was sad when my stop was up, but he begrudgingly let me go after a kiss and another complement. He smiled watching me walk away, liking what he saw, sad to see me go, but enjoying the extra sway in my hips I put in there for him. The night continued as usual, but in my dreams I visited the experience again. It was almost as good. And I fell into a deep sweet, happy sleep.
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I agree with thee 1st two readers. Please take the time to tag your stories, and if possible please ask a friend with strong language skills to proofread your work before you post it, or read a book on basic grammar before you post again. This is constructive criticism, not carping: Almost every sentence contains an error -- you seem unfamilar with the basics of sentence structure, punctuation, spelling, how to write dialog, etc.
I'm not discouraging you from writing -- it's great to use your imagination/creativity. But just as water needs a container if we're going to drink it or wash with it, so ideas need a proper delivery system, and at present your ideas are alipping away because they lack an effective delivery system.
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2009-03-30 19:36:21
Good grammar and spelling, great story, all the elements of a good read.
Ignore pod, your grammar was fine, mistakes were very rare
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2009-03-30 02:21:50
Great story.
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2009-03-29 23:40:01
Good story.
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...and why can't writers take the time to check off a few themes? If you want people to read your story, give them a clue as to the content.
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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 You got i want the money players Jake Long, OT, Dolphins. Age: 28 ROT is what is really left out there Andre Smith, OT, Bengals. Eric Winston, OT, Chiefs Aging solid Vets Bryant McKinnie, OT, Ravens. ...
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Yeah, Long will want too much money, Winston is better suited for RT. McKinnie is intriguing but he really only played half the year last year but played well. He may also want too much money but I would take a look. I would like to take a look at drafting Terron Armstead. He might last until the 3rd round. |
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Face it. We blew our wad overpaying for marginal players in upfront restructured contracts in the hopes of "keeping the band together" when we got incredibly lucky to win that SB in the first place with that crew.
There are too many players on the team who would be backups or look squadders on other teams that start for us because we just can't let go of "popular" players who show glimpses of talent during practice. We can't afford FA and we have little to trade due to the Goodell screwing. we're in a holding pattern until we can jettison the deadweight over the next three years. |
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Not quite ure we have a choice now. OT in the first is 75% chance now. Unless they go big and get Jake.
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Unless we move up we won't get any of the top three tackles.The rest are far to much of a reach to take at 15.
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I agree with the OT's not being there. Maybe trade back into the 2nd and pick up a 3rd to go with it. It seems a stud may not be what we need. With glaring needs at OT, DT, SS and CB we need value with extra picks
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I don't how affordable Winfield will be since he refused to renegotiate his contract with Vikes in order stay with the team while taking a pay cut.
I know many here don't think too fondly of the Vikes, but Winfield hadn't had any issues with the FO or coaching staff prior to this and I've never seen a report saying he was unhappy in Minnesota. He'll probably end up in Seattle, since they seem to be building the Seattle Vikings over there. |
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Sheez louise. Do we really need to think like this? Sorry to GO OFF on you like this, but let's review: 2006-2011 - 3rd best winning record in NFL overall 2006-2011 - 67 victories during this period, with just one NFC team securing more wins 2006-2011 3rd best road record in the entire NFL 2009-2011 - tied for best overall record in NFL 2008, 2009 and 2011, first in scoring 2012 - #2 offense in NFL, yardage 2012 - #1 offense in NFL, passing 2012 - #3 offense in NFL, scoring 2 Pro Bowlers 2009 7 Pro Bowlers 2010 5 Pro Bowlers 2011 2 Pro Bowlers 2012 5-3 in the post season three division titles 2 wild card appearances 3 playoff appearances in a row 11+ wins in 3 consecutive seasons .500 or below in 3 seasons That's "incredibly lucky"? We had ONE bad year, my friend. And even that year wasn't that "off" from normal, except in defense (which was horrible but wasn't really that off, either) and of course, the wins column. And we went 7-9 WITH NO COACH. ------------------------------------------------------------ Now let's look at the Saints disappointing ".500 or below" seasons under Payton - we've had 3 of them. During the same period, 2006-2012, the Ravens (a very winning team) had only 1 sub-.500 season, 5-11 in 2007. But they had another that was close to .500, a 9-7 record in 2009. And all three of the Saints' ".500 or below" seasons were either 8-8 or 7-9. So, is there really that much difference there, over time, between the two clubs performance? Three middling break-even seasons to two? Are their fans sitting around in their forums in Baltimore, moping about how they "got lucky" to have one of the best overall records in football, year in and year out? Come on, man -- we have a really good freaking team. ----------------------------------------------------------- Teams With Most Regular Season wins 2009-2012 (including this past year, no Payton): Patriots - 49 Packers - 47 Falcons - 45 Saints - 44 Ravens - 43 Steelers - 41 San Fran - 38 Giants - 36 etc. We're "lucky"? ---------------------------------------------------------- And "keeping the band together"? Let's look at that: Number of Super Bowl offensive starters still on roster = 5 = less than 50% Number of Super Bowl defensive starters still on roster = 5 = less than 50% No. of Super Bowl substitution/backup players still on roster = 13 out of 53 = much less than 50% Number of Super Bowl roster, offensive starters who left the team for more money elsewhere: 6 Number of Super Bowl roster, defensive starters who left the team for more money: 2 definitely, but really more like 5 -- Fujita and Porter, but there's also McCray, Usama Young & Hargrove, who DID leave and sign elsewhere. You can't get much more freaking "popular" with the fans than Tracy Porter, and the front office apparently had no problem letting HIM leave. Number of Super Bowl Roster, defensive starters who stayed for less money: 2, maybe actually 3...I don't know for sure if Sharper stayed in 2010 for more or less money, but he stayed only one more year, and it could easily have been only the bare vet minimum since they didn't "disclose" the terms. So...they held onto 5 defensive guys, 2 of which just re-signed for less, and they lost 6 to other teams ...that's keeping the band together? I guess this winning stuff was all a mirage. It was just dumb luck. *sigh * |
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Tagged: veterans
A book that reveals how burn pits poison soldiers and can cause the rare brain cancer that killed Joe Biden's son has been banned on military bases.
The solar and wind industries are generating new jobs as fossil fuel companies fire thousands of workers.
Delay and denial are standard operating procedures when it comes to how the government cares for vets.
How can the United States afford to keep proving that it's bad at bringing peace to conflict-ridden Middle Eastern countries?
As long as it's fought by other people on someone else's soil, Americans can live with perpetual conflict.
A recently discovered U.S. army report puts lie to the Pentagon's denials that it exposed soldiers and civilians to Agent Orange on Okinawa.
Wars of conquest are most popular if they can be made to appear tidy, safe, just, and relatively cost-free.
A few years ago, recruiting was a more thankless job.
While a Pew study shows that a third of U.S. soldiers felt that neither Iraq or Afghanistan were worth the effort, a pipeline project might ensure continued U.S. presence in the area.
Whistleblowers have unearthed the widespread use of Agent Orange by the U.S. military in Korea.