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The division-rival Buffalo Sabres are at the Bell Centre Monday night.
The Canadiens play eight games, including two sets of back-to-backs, over this week and next.
• Dave Stubbs on the mugging of Miller
• Red Fisher on the Hall of Fame inductees
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The division-rival Buffalo Sabres are at the Bell Centre Monday night.
The Canadiens play eight games, including two sets of back-to-backs, over this week and next.
• Dave Stubbs on the mugging of Miller
• Red Fisher on the Hall of Fame inductees
I read this fellow Berskshire's column. It is all very interesting and I guess provides an approach for analysing the Hab's performance. However we should all acknowledge the fact that however unlucky this team is and notwithstanding its injuries, it is only a fair to middling team with no chance at winning the Cup and only a slight chance at making the playoffs.
Thank you Mr. P.G.
Dear Mr. Berkshire: my respects for your autodidactic industry with statistics and your persistence here on H/I-O in arguing your case.
On a side note, from my own particular area, the distinction that you invoke in your article between acronyms and "initialisms" is to my mind null. It is the type of unlettered and officious affectation that one finds among the internetati (of which you are easily well above).
The affected distinction is between initials that one can pronounce and others that one can not. But this alleged categorisation collapses immediately. Many so-called 'initialisms' are perfectly pronouncible in principle (U.S.A., I.R.A, A.T.M, etc.) and many ancroymns are less prouncible than so-called initialisms (Ph.D. = "P'hud" RRSP = "Risps", etc.)
So, (1.) the difference between the two alleged types is entirely arbitrary; (2.) there is nothing in the etymology of the word 'acronym' to enforce pronouncibilty; (3.) in any case, there is already a perfectly serviceable word for mere initials, and that word is …. "initials"!
Again, my respects for your illuminating hockey punditry here.
VH, that distinction was just to ad some levity to the piece, and largely a joke. Hence the link to a skit by Penn & Teller.
However if I'm not mistaken, the difference between an acronym and an initialism is just that one is read as a word and one is read as a series of letters.
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Ignone VancouverHab. He's just a (neurasthenic) paper hanger. That's what Patton said about you know who.
People choose to spend their time as they wish. I my opinion, folks like the fine AB would learn a lot more about hockey by going down to the local rink and watching some junior A or midget. Better yet, volunteer to coach a team. You'd learn more about hokey in one month of coaching than 1 year of pouring over data. But that's AB's thing and he is good at it.
Most modern coaches use the stats I'm using now 😉
That said I would love to coach if I had the time, as well as the inclination to get up early.
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there was a time that I can remember when what Lucic did to Miller would have triggered an all out BENCH CLEARING BRAWL.
Lucic would have been attacked, maybe even by more than 1 Sabre, and especially by the Sabres toughest fighter.
the league brought in harsh rules to stop bench clearing brawls.
(by the way, everyone in the crowd that I could see, absolutely went crazy and loved the brawls)
now, the league needs to figure out how to stop guys like Lucic and Chara.
its as if guns have been outlawed and only the gangs are left armed to the teeth with automatic weapons.
in Boston, they STILL LOVE THIS STUFF.
They eat it up.
In New York and Philly and many other cities, what Lucic did would have been cheered, with a standing ovation for his skate to the penalty box.
honestly, I stopped giving the NHL my money 2 years ago.
I still watch the games, but I will NOT support this B.S. league.
It would be cool if Lemieux and Gretzky could take their rightful positions at the highest levels of the NHL bureaucracy, and bring some respectability back to this piece of crap league.
The men running the NHL are not worthy of our respect.
Gretzky and Lemieux don't need the headaches of getting involved in the NHL head office crap. Gretzky is selling green tea and mario looking after sid.
How good are the Habs really? Can Toronto maintain their position? Is Detroit going to struggle all year? Read about how advanced statistics can predict the answer to these questions, along with a primer to understand what each stat means and why it's important.
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Those are quite interesting, I gotta thank whomever put so much work into this, and it certainly paints a brighter picture than the Division rankings do.
They do give a good idea of some of the things happening on the ice, but I still feel as though they do not give a perfect picture of what a team does.
Still a good improvement over what stats are usually posted on say nhl.com
Randy for HC!
The stats are compiled (by me) from each team's page on timeonice.com. The graph was compiled by Canucks blogger Cam Charron.
As you say, nothing will give a perfect picture, but as far as stats go in hockey, these are the best way to predict future success that we've been able to quantify.
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That's the one bit that annoys me, that predict the future thing. I could be wrong, but I feel that no tool can accurately predict the future, or future success of a team.
The numbers are a measure of how a team has played, it does not determine that they will keep playing that way.
Over the last decade, puck possession has been very consistent on a single season level. Even after only 15 games, it's fairly simple to see which teams are good and which aren't. That will hold out through the season.
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I would hope you wouldn't bet your house on anything. And like any situation, there can be bumps in the road. Subban and Price could go down tonight and then everything falls by the wayside.
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Being laid up all weekend with back spasms is a good time to do it : )
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Thank you very much.
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No need for advanced stats. Compare TO's goal differential to Boston's and you realize the standings are not accurately reflecting their respective talent levels.
Corsi is a useful management tool for calculating the value of a player relative to their salary, especially when a team can choose between several similar players. But for the pupose of predicting how a team does in the standings, I think it is easier to just divide the roster into three buckets – young players who are getting better, prime players who are maintaining and older players who are declining. Teams contend when they have better than average young players who are at or near peak talent.
I like Corsi for talent evaluation and contract benchmarking but I don't like most of these advanced stats for predicting overall team standings.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
Hal Gill out of action tonight, ill according to reports.
Buffalo is scratching Tyler Myers.
– I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
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Gill isn't playin' so Buffalo "evens things up" by scratchin' their tallest D?
Man, they are soft.
I doubt Emelin gets more than 10 minutes, JM will play Diaz in all situations. I hear he is pinning a note to his back offering Free Parking in the blue paint.
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Wow, can you imagine the reaction of Montreal fans if Martin would have made Subban a healthy scratch at the start of the year when he wasn't playing well?
One way or another, Gill will need some rest periods once a in while, if he is to be as effective as he can be all season long.
Randy for HC!
Dave Stubbs forgot to post the following regarding Lucic's hit on Miller:
69.4 Contact Outside the Goal Crease – If an attacking player initiates any contact with a goalkeeper, other than incidental contact, while the goalkeeper is outside his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.
A goalkeeper is not "fair game" just because he is outside the goal crease. The appropriate penalty should be assessed in every case where an attacking player makes unnecessary contact with the goalkeeper. However, incidental contact will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such unnecessary contact.
When a goalkeeper has played the puck outside of his crease and is then prevented from returning to his crease area due to the deliberate actions of an attacking player, such player may be penalized for goalkeeper interference. Similarly, the goalkeeper may be penalized, if by his actions outside of his crease he deliberately interferes with an attacking player who is attempting to play the puck or an opponent.
It's pretty black and white. If Shanahan doesn't suspend Lucic, then Daddy Campbell is still sticking his nose in it.
any news on cammy and ak's and even whites injuries?
"Don't get me wrong, I have all the respect in the world for them. They have good players and they're good at what they do. But playing against them is so boring. They should have to pay for coffee for our fans to help them stay awake." Higgins (I'm paraphrasing), on the NJ Devils.
AK46 still isn't practising, he has a groin injury. White is still several weeks to months away from returning.
Cammy practised this morning.
Lots of talkin' heads on the radio this mornin' while waitin' at the Orange Julep to pick up four scalps for Carolina on Wednesday – at face value, go figure – and can't help but notice the perpetual invocation of the rationale that goalies outside their crease are "fair game".
Francois Gagnon went on almost incessantly about it and then suggested supplementary discipline was nonsense.
Ok. Fair enough. Let me check the Intraternetwebz.
Excerpt from Rule 69.4: "A goalkeeper is not 'fair game' just because he is outside the goal crease. The appropriate penalty should be assessed in every case where an attacking player makes unnecessary contact with the goalkeeper. However, incidental contact will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such unnecessary contact."
The goalie is not, in fact, "fair game". The mouthbreather's contact was unnecessary and, if one wants to buy his BS line that it was incidental, I see no evidence of any reasonable effort to avoid contact.
Forget the fact the bonehead conceded his team would not have accepted that type of behaviour from the opposition.
Excerpt from Rule 69.7: "An attacking player who, in the judgment of the Referee, initiates contact with the goalkeeper, whether inside or outside the crease, in a fashion that would otherwise warrant a penalty, will be assessed an appropriate penalty (minor or major and/or game misconduct) and will be subject to additional sanctions as appropriate pursuant to Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline."
What is a guy's excuse for gettin' on the horn this mornin', and ramblin' on about his objections to the whole thing, when it flies directly in the face of the NHL Rulebook, almost to a tee?
And Gagnon – and others – gets paid for this? Really?
Back in the day, if I'd been this sloppy about my job, I'd hate to ponder the consequences.
Post of the day. Well done. It always amazes me how ignorant some hockey people are of the rules. Its only y'now… their job.
That really surprises me.
Gagnon is one of the VERY few hockey writers whose judgement and commentary I respect.
I've never had an issue with him before, but this seems a bit off-target for sure.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
That's the news media for you, research gets in the way of sensationalism.
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Great post as always.
The only thing is Gagnon is usually pretty good, I never really have issues with what he says. He does appear to have dropped the ball on this most recent commentary. Were all human, it does happen from time to time. I find especially for people who have been doing their job for a long time, they take for granted the fact that they should probably check their facts before speaking.
Which is what I assumed.
I don't have any real problem with Gagnon, other than the fact he always waits too long to get his hair cut, and his head ends up lookin' like the back end of a leperous rat for a couple of weeks.
But, there is a tendency to fall back on preconceived notions on a Monday mornin' cause Sunday night is no time to be workin'.
All due respect to Ladouceur, but to say that Desharnais was our third best player last week is a joke (really our second best behind PK because Budaj only played one game).
Take those rose-coloured franco-glasses off.
Are so saying he over-rates, or underrates DD, your comment confuses me feeble mind.
Randy for HC!
Mornin' all,
Here's a question for you: do you think that if someone had stepped up and laid a beating on Lucic, that he would never do something like that again?
Or Zac Rinaldo last night, hammering the Florida player, then getting beat up after his penalty expired. Do you think that made Rinaldo think: "Hmm, that fight really put my manner of play into perspective. Perhaps I should be more temperate in my approach to body-checking in the future. Thank you, Matt Bradley, for teaching me such a valuable (yet fearsome!) message with your fists."
I'm not condoning 'soft' play, but I question the necessity of the on-ice 'enforcer' who can't really enforce anything.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Every answer to this question is going to be pure speculation. I don't think Lucic would be deterred in the future, nor any other player of a similar mentality. Their game is based on that type of play and I can't imagine it would change based on one beat-down.
From an irrational fanatical standpoint, I would love to see a player teach Lucic a lesson. But from a rational, objective standpoint, most players who commit such acts that require a lesson in punishment won't be deterred from doing it in the future. Cheapshot artists are always going to be cheapshot artists.
That's my sad conclusion too.
And it's at this point that the NHL SHOULD step in; when people say yeah, it sucks, but whaddayagonnado?
That's what they said about the hooking and clinging, and that got dealt with.
What I'd love to see, which I won't, but it's nice to dream, is Shanahan say: "Lucie, you're a dirty player. You play like a gutless sack of sh!t. Here's a massive suspension."
Problem is, lawyers seem to have taken over the league, and as we saw with Chara, there's some sort of requirement for 'previous offences' or whatever.
I'd like to see the NHL management grow some balls and call the game like the rest of us see it.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Not to mention his repeated sucker punching!! He gets away with more sucker punches, than anybody I've ever seen! Should have been suspended at least three times in last years playoffs. Even Horton does it on a regular basis. It's a bloody epedemic on that team!
Sal from the Hammer
Clearly Capital Punishment is the answer to finally end the Violence!
If Juicy Lucy would have done that to Carey Price, Carey Price would have dropped the gloves & went after him himself!
"If your not first, your last"
Not that I'd like to see Price in another fight, but I think that Lucic would be surprised by how tough of a scrap he'd get from our calf wrestler.
Or Carey could blindside him with the edge of his blocker to Lucy's schnozz. Either way.
Carey is 6'3″ and about 220. Too much of a heavy weight for milan,he would have skated away.
Newsy at 6'0″ and 208 lbs was apparently too much for Lucy.
I do, however, recall him goin' after Gio.
Gotta pick yer spots, I guess.
A couple weeks ago, after the Habs' horrid start, I divided their schedule into 8-game stretches (approximately 1/10 of the season) and determined they needed to get at least 10 points every 8 games to have a fighting chance of getting onto the guest list for the playoff party.
I proposed this just before their loss to the Panthers (the Habs' eighth game of the season). I said I wouldn't panic about this season until after their game in Nashville. Well, since the Florida game vos Canadiens de Montreal have gone 6-2-0. Back on track.
Another stretch like that will do just fine, thank-you very much.
Looking ahead at their 8-game schedule they play: BUF, CAR (x2), NYI, NYR, BOO, PHI, PIT. A very important stretch, as an argument could be made that 3 or 4 teams they play against could be the same teams jockeying for the 7 thru 10 seeds come the beginning of April.
Let's go boys, add another 10-12 pts in the standings in the next 2 weeks.
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130 of us from all over North America this year.
We will all meet and greet at Hurley's pub Friday eve. Some of us will be having supper there, and name tags will be given as we watch the Hamilton Bull Dogs on big screen.
Everyone is welcome to join us. Ware you team colors! and enjoy the evening.
Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora's at 8 or 8:30am. Mike Boone and other guests will be joining us. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.
We then walk over to the Bell Center for the Hall of Fame Tour for 10:30am and the Bell Center Tour is at 11:30am. You need to purchase a $5:50 ticket for the Bell Center tour.
After the tours there will be a Media and Fan professional presentation put on by former concussed hockey players. Kerry Goulet, Keith Primeau and other players who are Involved in educating the effects of concussion, depression and neurology rehabilitation.
(location is the Novotel hotel, just up the street)
At 3pm the Children's Foundation Charity raffle and pre game dinner at the Baton Rouge restaurant. bring one item each if possible please, so everyone can win a gift to go home with.
Rejean Houle will join us at the dinner with a Canadiens team signed stick for the raffle.
Then we walk across the street to the Hab's and Ranger's game.
After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley's pub is reserved for us again, to celibrate the win. Anyone may join us, just identify yourself as a HIO member.
Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.
Enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO family.
See ya there.
Ian Cobb
HIO Fan Summit Organizer (613-968-9807) if you need anything.
My wife surprised me with tix for this game for my birthday. It'll be my first game at the Bell Centre. Hopefully we'll be able to catch up with the crew at some point – maybe at Hurley's for a pint to celebrate the victory! Do you need to be signed up to attend?
Looking Forward Ian, thanks again for all your work preparing this weekend for us! Cheers to All who will be there.
Ian do you have a list of who all is going, that you could email?
The most maddening thing about hockey, the sport I love the most, is the culture of violence that permeates the game, as if it is an integral part of the game and we should just turn a blind eye.
What Milan Lucic did the other night to Miller was 100% bush league. I don't mind contact on the goalies when they are out playing the puck, but I do mind a huge player like Lucic loading up and aiming high on the hit. Most NHL players hit to hurt these days, and this is just another example. One of my frequent suggestions has been to assess a penalty to any player who initiates a bodycheck on a player if his stick blade is not on the ice.
The point of hitting should be to get the puck. You can't do that if your stick is in the air. Furthermore, you can't lift your arms and target the head if you are forced to keep your stick on the ice. I suspect that such a change would dramatically reduce the number of injuries off checks, especially shoulder and head injuries, as players are forced to adapt a more technically sound checking approach.
But the other point of this rant is the fans and the media crap that has been spewed since this incident. The Sabres are being villified for "turtling" when their star player gets hurt. When has the solution to bullying EVER been to fight back? When did that ever work?
It was the same crap when Laraque was signed. Everybody was going on about how he would change the way teams took advantage of Montreal's star players, but that hasn't been the role of a goon in the NHL in decades. The fighters fight one another…players like Boogaard, Laraque and even Domi did not generally fight non-fighters. People wanted Laraque to go out and attack people like Lucic without fair warning to help "police" the game. Yet many of those same people continue to villify Todd Bertuzzi for doing exactly that in retaliation for an illegal and dirty hit to the head of Markus Naslund, Vancouver's best player in a previous game. He attacked Steve Moore when Moore made it clear he wasn't going to fight Bertuzzi, and in the process broke his neck and ended his hockey career.
Is that what the people in the media and the stands want with Milan Lucic? That somebody like Patrick Kaleta go in and jump Lucic? Or perhaps in the next game, they should send Gaustad out to jump him? And in the unlikely but still possible event that such an action might seriously injure Lucic, how would those people calling for "frontier justice" react? They would crucify the Sabres player for his actions not befitting the noble sport of hockey. What a load of hypocritical "excrement" that will be.
The funniest comment on here has to be "Larry Robinson would never have tolerated this". I just finished re-reading Ken Dryden's "The Game", and a prominent part of that book was that Robinson was playfully mocked all the time by his teammates for NOT fighting, for going up whenever one of the opponents took liberties with his teammates and wagging his big finger in their face and talking about how angry it made him, i.e., for doing exactly what the Buffalo Sabres' quintet of players are now being crucified for doing.
The league has a responsibility to address this issue. I hope that Shanahan does the right thing, because then we can see all this neandrethal tripe being thrown around on various hockey forums disappear.
The reality is that even attacking Lucic wouldn't have changed anything. He's a classless piece of crap that has demonstrated throughout his career that he has little regard for his fellow players. That isn't going to change by some player going up and fighting him. Miller would still be concussed, and Lucic would laugh off the "old-time hockey" after the game and do it again in another 5-10 games. That is simply who Lucic is.
I find it depressingly sad that in all aspects of life, we eschew vigilante justice and teach people to be the better person. Only in the sport of hockey do we embrace the same base mentality that allowed something like the Roman gladiator battles to exist.
There should be a 'point finale' at the end of this. This should be the end of the discussion. Frustrating that it isn't.
Agreed, well said. There won't be a need for frontier justice if Shanahan does his job…isn't that the whole point? I for one, based on past practice, and, the fact that he answers to Campbell, do not like the chances that anything significant will result from Lucy's actions.
Sal from the Hammer
Great post.
This is where we are going to see who the real brendan shanahan is. If he doesnt give lucic a nice suspension, he just confirms that he is as big of a joke as campbell was.
Habs have won six of their last eight games. Despite all the complaints they are turning the season around. Can they move on up tonight?
Two points puts Montreal in the middle of the league rankings. Still early in the year, rolling through November could put the team back in the Division race. Markov back to skating with the team, maybe he gives the team the right 'boost' when he returns in what would likely be December to help avert their usual nasty December road trip.
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DEfinitely nice to see that we arent getting brutally outshot this season as we have in previous years. I still find the games extremely boring, and frankly I dont think you are controlling your own desinty when you are constantly playing 1 goal games. 1 goal games get dangerous because all it takes is a couple of bad bounces to swing the game in the other direction. That being said, we are improving our record, and markov should definitely provide us a huge boost, especially on the PP. Improving our PP will go a long way in improving our overall play.
Can't wait to get Markov back quaterbacking the PP so that pleks can get back to his natural spot on the half boards.
am i insanely biased or is the thought of cujo in the HOF making me vomit warranted?
Shouldn't his incredible stickhandling abilities alone get him in the Hall? I mean how many goalies today can go to a complete cross handed grip and weakly lift the puck to the blue line!
I think his flipping out after a goal scored on him and slipping/sliding into the referee should be included in his highlight/induction video.
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418 NHL losses and the most wins by a goalie to never win the Stanley Cup ain't nuthin' to sneeze at, y'know…
i liked when fat quin started him in the olympics, over brodeur, yay sweden
second-losingest goalie in NHL history.
Let's rename him "W"
"I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out"
~Rodney Dangerfield
I dont see why the Habs and Sabres would try to even up scores with the Bruins by fighting each other, seems to me they have something in common. Lucic will get a suspension, but the reason will be Buttmans puppets will want to make the new owner of the Sabres and their fans happy. In principle this is the same reason Jacobs and the Bruins fans did not receive one last year for Chara ,Buttman wanted Jacobs and the Bruins fans happy. In the Habs case Buttman and his National Hustlers League are the not worried about perception of the fans, we are just cash cows for him. I really dont think of the Bruins as a tuff team, they are a just a dirty team with a carte blanche, and bully boys who have no shame in using it.
Miller should have pulled a Hextall/Chelios on Lucic. Did anyone see his "retaliation" later in the game? If Ryan seen that his team-mates didn't do anything he should have did it himself. Instead of that wimpy push on Lucic when he was in front of the crease should have been a crosscheck at his skull. It would have merited a suspension, but would have made Shannahan think a little harder about Lucic's unwarranted hit.
The fact that the league no longer does anything to protect players that are vulnerable only confirms what "real hockey people" said when the instigator rule was instilled. "there's going to be a lot more stick work and cheap shots".
The NHL's lack of foresight is amazing…so many of the new rules have lead us to this mockery we used to love.
Right. Because the Broad Street Bullies were held back by the lack of an instigator rule.
"Real hockey people" are full of crap. The only way to police the game is to penalize the teams for their actions: severe team fines and long suspensions are a far greater deterrent than a goon going out and jumping somebody.
Hope we're not all expecting too much from Markov when when/if he gets back. He hasn't played in 2 years and it may take him 1/2 a season to get the head back into it.
He will be so well rested I expect him to play about 30-36 mins per game the rest of the way.
Looking back at all the games this season, its funny but, If Markov was health we would most likely be 10-4-2.
The PP has cost us 3 games IMO, game 1 vs the Leafs, and games vs the Panthers and Oilers.
what would all the habs fans be saying if Moen or some one else ran Miller like lucic did..just playing devils advocate here.
i understand its rhetorical but the point is, Moen (or anyone else on our team) wouldnt have made that hit
I'm not even sure most of the bruins forwards would have made that hit. Other then lucic or horton.
iam a little conflicted here. i hate the bruins attitude but also like there toughness and wish we had that physicality and some of the intimidation. iam one person who hates seeing the Canadiens get pushed around ..drives me nuts.
Oh I definitely wish our lineup included Ryan White, Emelin, a Konopka type 4th liner and a real tough Dman, who was capable of winning a fight.
While I am not in favour of fighting, until this league shows it can police itself this team needs to protect itself.
i hear you, i think few habs fans would be against toughening up
but the lucic hit transcends that
I just don't think Moen would do it. If he did, I would probably say well hear comes a suspension, and I sure as hell hope they don't run Price as bad in retaliation.
Now if we are talking Thomas……hmmmmm
While I believe Lucic should get a suspension of approx. 4-5 games, I doubt he will get one. But an interesting point worth discussing is the blatant stick swing by Miller intended to hit Lucic. Miller is very fortunate that stick did not connect and especially lucky it didn't catch Lucic in the head area or he may be facing a 20+ game suspension. I am curious if Shanahan will point to this play as a negative on Miller and in some twisted way absolve Lucic of punishment.
Lucy is lucky that Miller swing didn't connect, you mean. Oh, and if he connected with Lucic's chin, I would have been all the happier.
If Lucy gets suspended then I feel his comments will play a role – he basically said "we don't care what the officials or NHL management might do, we would mete out frontier justice to anybody who did that to us." the NHL has – in the past – looked down on vigilante tactics. Just to diffuse any future garbage, they might suspend Lucy. Personally, it's a garbage play but probably only deserves 1-2 games.
I was thinking that too.
And rightly so. The NHL needs to show that excuse-making is see-through and that taunting and bullying in the wake of a dangerous hit are as easily (and importantly) punished as the hit itself. Lucy should get 4-5 games for the hit and another 5 for his comments and to send a message to the Bruins (and others) and the "style of play" Lucic crowed about.
Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
What it comes down to, in addition to his comments, is that the "collision" (as everyone in the the Boston media refers to it, as if to make it seem like some poor, unfortunate accident) was completely avoidable. Miller had separated himself from the puck, and Lucic chose to hit a defenseless Miller at full speed instead of letting up pursuing the puck.
As such, the charging call was warranted. But the way that he hit Miller, arms raised at the head, shows an intent to injure. For that, he should be suspended.
Lucic, well I hate the guy, and he gave me a reason more to hate him.
Would someone stepping up and trying to pound on Lucic really change anything, I don't think so.
Bruins are used to getting their ways with their physical "play". Besides, Lucic was pounded on before, and he has not changed his game.
The onus is on the League, it's ref and the NHLPA, as long as they pussy-foot around, players will get concussed for no good reasons.
Randy for HC!
After selecting our Hab's to win our division this year, because we have great depth and better young talent than we have had in many years in Montreal. I find myself having the most negative season just watching my team play each night.
I did not enjoy the way our team prepared to play the pre season and even less the way they came to play most nights in the regular season.
I enjoy and love this game so very much, but I am scratching my head in frustration. This is a very good team we have, and we are playing as a bottom feeding club. We can not win a hockey game going away. Any we win, we just squeak out the two points, while giving up one to the opposition or just hang on.
No, I do not see us winning our division this year now. I even think we are going to struggle to get a play off spot. It is terrible to feel so negative while watching my favorite team.
The only positive feelings that I have about our game is our ability to kill penalties. We are the best in the league. But that's it!
I can only come up with one reason for this poor play, and I have been very criticle of late. But what else could it be other than the way players are used and communicated with by the coaching staff.?
This is a game!, for all to enjoy, both fans and players, but I do not see our players having much fun out there. And that is the main reason I am not enjoying the game as much this year.
But win or lose, I'll be watching and hoping for something to change each night.
We are going to be the first team to have 20 goals scored on us when we have the power play!
what would all the habs fans be saying if Moen or some one else ran Miller like lucic did..just playing devils advocate here.
ps..should have put this comment up top not under ian
depth? the bottom half of the roster is devoid of experienced or NHL level talent.
i expected the team to have more points than 09 and as many or less points than 010 because of the aging of the top half of the roster gionta can't keep scoring 30 goals at his age. i think they are doing fantastic given their injuries and lack of depth. once markov returns, they will move back up the standings to their customary 6th-8th place.
it is riduculous to stop enjoying the team because they fail to meet non consensus, arbitrary standards you set for them. JM is actually doing a mediocre to almost decent job given the lack of talent on this team.
I will be psyched if Price, Pax and Suban have great years. They are the future of this team. The rest of the roster won't be with the team by the time Montreal contends.
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If Luc(shit) doesn't get minimum 3 game suspension, then the Gooins definitely have the league officials in their back pockets. That guy is a complete disgrace to hockey & the league's lack of discipline against Boston is the reason they won the cup.
Dirtiest team in the league no doubt.
"Hate Bruins like a sickness"
A view from the other side, witch some of that excellent, obviously unbiased reporting from over at NESN:
Bruins goalie Tim Thomas expected the Sabres to possibly run him in retaliation, but that never happened either.
"I didn't know if there would be a kind of retribution hit. That's kind of the old school way."
But the Sabres are a new school type of team. They tucked their tails between their legs and let themselves be run out of the building.
That's certainly not the way the Bruins would have responded… the Bruins have been the aggressors on most occasions, and are always willing to stand up for one another if another team crosses the line with one of their own.
"Definitely," Lucic said when asked if the response would have been different if Thomas had been hit like that. "We wouldn't accept anything like that. We would have taken care of business, but we're a different team than they are."
And as the scoreboard showed on Saturday night, not to mention the new Stanley Cup banner flying up in the rafters alongside it, the Bruins are a much better team than the Sabres.
Shanahan – if you have a hard time figuring out what to give Lucic- Ill help ya- 15 games for attemp to injure – maybe this guy will finally get the message.
My Take on the Whole Miller situation:
Miller jumped out of the net to get the puck with Lucic not 4 feet away going full speed. What did Miller expect to happen? Take Lucic out and put Cole in and everyone on this board would say it was an unfortunate hockey play.
"everyone on this board would say it was an unfortunate hockey play."
okay then
you have to attempt to avoid the goalie – thats the rule. lucy violated the rule and an injury resulted.
personally i do not think he needs to be suspended but if he is i'd say 2 games. i do not think thewre was intent to injure – just intent to hit a goalie.
in the very least the NHL will pay more attention to goalie contact bc price get hits at least once a game.
ps – recall gionta hit a goalie that resulted in a concussion.
You're kidding me. That's like comparing a fender bender in a parking lot to a head-on collision on the highway.
Gionta wasn't moving with near the speed, he does try to squeeze between the goalie and the defenseman, but also had his back to the goalie who comes out as Gionta was skating across. It's an unfortunate result that Reimer got injured – and I mean that sincerely – but the situation, intent, possibility of avoidance, and even attitude towards the hit couldn't have been more different.
Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
That's a great point, because if you put Cole in that situation instead of Lucic there is no contact with the goalie. Thanks for pointing out what we are all saying, Lucic is a dirty player.
Edit: Should have stated what I am saying, not we are saying, I cannot nor should I speak for others here.
Lucic was "not 4 feet away". WTF? Yeah, until he was "not 3 feet away" and then "not 2 feet". Before that though, he was about 20 feet, at which point it was obvious he was in a losing race for the puck against a guy with pads on.
Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
Well I'm barred from TSN again! Guess they didn't like me calling Lucic Brain Dead.
I'm barred. Even when i make a non leaf hating comment.
Sal from the Hammer
The best thing for hockey would be if Shanahan suspends Lucy for at least 10 games. Repeat offender, blatant (and successful) attempt to injure a vulnerable player, unsportsmanlike attitude to the whole thing. I don't mind goalies out of their crease getting bumped, but a guy in Millers position with pads on, standing still has NO mobility, and Lucic could've side-stepped him.
The SECOND best thing for hockey (because we know Shanahan won't do that, protection of the Bruins is grandfathered), is that Gaustad is now watching clips of Lucic fights to see how to knock him into next week.
At some point, morons like Lucic have to be made to pay and seriously or this crap is gonna just keep going. Could the Bruins have won the cup without injuring a lot of guys with dangerous hits along the way? Not a chance. Does the NHL care? Same answer.
Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
It's just too much isn't it?
A thug runs a goalie and gloats that there was no response fro the other team. Perhaps worse he suggests that the collision was unavoidable and practically grins as he says it.
Last year the Bruins learned that they can do pretty much what they want and it won them a cup!
It will be at least interesting to see what Shanahan does this time.
I suspect that this will a defining moment. If the league does not suspend the precedent is daunting…open season on goalies. And there are enough idiots in the league to take a shot.
Maybe Carey Price is next!
Go get him Scott…
"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." (anon)
I believe Campbell, is still Shanahan's boss. We'll see where this goes. The NHL Bush league, does not want to take this type of hit out of the game, if it wants to make headway in the US. The NHL stopped caring a long time ago about what Canadians, who love this game like no other, say/think about their decisions…
Sal from the Hammer
That's a good question! IS Campbell Shanahan's boss?
Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
That is a point many people forget, Colon still has a huge role at NHL Head Office and it is impossible for me to believe that before all these decisions Shanahan doesn't walk into Colon's office and bounce off him what he is thinking of doing.
That's more than a bit rich, a draft dodger like Todd talking about Omaha beach.
yeah cuz im sure if it was you youd be excited about goin to nam and doin some hand to hand with jackie chan
Lucic should have his head checked.
If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
There is no point to debate the Lucic hit. Shanahan will settle it in a few hours. I stopped reading Stubbs' column on the hit after he called his tv peers "lunkheads."
The team that comes out looking best in this affair is the Islanders. They are a young, talented team that will not make the playoffs, but they stand up for each other on the ice in a way that Monrtreal and Buffalo have forgotten to do.
This incident should put a stop to those who write that Boston is only 1″ taller and 4 lbs heavier on average than Montreal or Buffalo so size is not a problem. Once Boston has three heavyweights, and Montreal has none, it does not matter that Montreal has more bantam weights than them. The statistic that matters is the size of the top three aggressive players on each team.
If Montreal can continue to play .500 or better with an injury decimated roster, they should have no problem moving up the standings when Markov et al return. This team is doing very well given the number of inexperienced players that skate each night.
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Judge Judy there absolutely IS a point to discussing the hit, NHL violence and Sham-a-ham "just us." You can't stifle debate.
If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
The NHL is as gutless as Lucic is a piece of excrement.
Contact to the head is deadly, let alone Lucic hitting a stopped goal tender at full speed. Shannahan better come through properly or else his credibility in his position is done!
Still disgusted at the referees. That was five and ten, goodbye.
If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
I'll give the Sabres the benefit of the doubt for not going all Ahnold on Lucic. Let's see what Shanahan does. If the NHL brass are actually trying to change the game, Lucic needs a long suspension or else teams will return to bench clearing brawls and attacks a la Bertuzzi to enact revenge for boneheaded cheap shots of that nature. Lucic is an evil twit. I hope the Sabres don't take it out on us.
Go Habs
it will be a good game tonight – miller or no miller – they're a little better up front than we are – so it's up to us to shut them down and we have the team that can do it – depends on which team shows up. the workers or floaters.
A very cheap shot, obviously deliberate and obviously avoidable, and very dangerous, too. That's all that can reasonably be said about it. But the gutless NHL will do nothing beyond, perhaps, a slap on the wrist for this blatant effort to injure an opposing player.
The NHL still has not gotten serious about outlawing gratuitous violence that at best changes the nature and perhaps the outcome of the contest and at worst puts players' careers and even lives at risk. In levying discipline against Lucic, the NHL also ought to consider his attitude towards his thuggery, his smug smile as he skated to the penalty box and his lies about what happened. The league needs to put some ooomph behind its words. Until it does, this kind of violence by thugs like Lucic will continue unchecked.
no one hates the bruins more than me. so lets please get the boys to focus on skating around their punk asses every time we play them and fill their net with pucks.
i was listening to the habs preds game and even rds was saying that pk suban is one of the most hated oponents in the east. really? why not lucic? why not chara? why not ference? etc etc. hey i even hate pou pou now!
these guys are an insult to hockey and we need to handle them like habs teams from the past: smoke them!!
I think this is the real test for Shanahan. Does Boston have a free pass again this year? You better believe they're paying attention. If they get away with this then they will step it up a notch.
This kind of blatant corruption can kill a league.
Straight out of the horse's mouth.
Max Pac on his goal and the part Subban had to play in it.
"It was awesome," Pacioretty said. "We're playing 4-on-4. He could have played passive and let them get the puck off a rebound, but he stepped up and made a great play."
I need NO MORE vindication of my many posts for the Canadien's elite stars to be encouraged to inject the impromptu and aggressive and yes 'risky' flair buried in their individual souls and dying to swagger out on to the ice with gallant gladiatorial affirmation of freedom from a chained existence.
I know that EVERYONE on this site respects and admires the courage and Everest like ambition to be great of Max Pacioretty. To stand out!
I write this with the excitement of a mucker ready to grind and grunt assured that when I hear such words from a 'star' performer line Max Pac, I know that my flailing at the opponent distracts and harrys him sufficiently for my STAR, my swashbuckling epeeist, to deliver the rousing thrust which carries the battle.
In simple words I stand and applaud these plays and players. I am not saying that a COACH, nor the FANS, should forgive lazy recklesness or incorrigibly foolish misadventures of carelessness.
And our players, like Subban and Eller, are NOT lazy nor reckless nor foolish. They have that ingrained urge to be great and to do great things for THEIR TEAM!
I believe that when players are given the freedom to play to engage ALL their SKILLS , one can demand and EXTRACT with more successs a greater RESPONSIBILITY from them. And that makes the team BETTER because the STARS are more engaged.
That is my beef today. The increasing tendency of the fans and now the scribes to come down on our young 'stars' for wanting to do too much. And the over identification and punishment by their coach for their 'errors of commission'.
Thank you Max Pac! You allowed me to leave for work today energized and waiting for tonight's game, hoping I see another dose of daring resulting in a beauteous moment like that you and Subban gave us.
I wish I had seen a similar expression of enjoyment from our coach. And more heady "did you see that" exclamations from the fans here.
Be forewarned though Mr Subban and Mr Max Pac, they lie in wait ready to pounce on your errors. For in HABSLAND reaching for the stars is no longer encouraged! We like the safety of mediocrity.
Lucic says, "You know, we wouldn't accept anything like that," Lucic said. "We would have [taken] care of business."
… well excuse me, but it isn't the role of the players to be their own police. That's what referees are supposed to do. Now I know the stripes have fallen down on the job lately, and have done so with the permission of the Bettman crowd. But simply because the authorities won't do the job is no reason for the citizens to take matters into their own hands.
… that way leads to anarchy.
"Whenever you have the puck, and don't know what to do with it, put it in the net." – Toe Blake
Jacques, is that you?
This is hockey, scores have always been settled on the ice and the threat of having to answer for a dirty hit yourself is part of the game. Not in a Bertuzzi-Moore way, but in the way Larry Robinson put the Flyers in their place when they tried to intimidate their way past us.
… so true, and it's the biggest fault of the game. In no other professional team sport is the responsibility for policing the action and playing within the rules laid on the officials but taken up by the players themselves.
… as great a game as hockey is, that is its Achilles heel, and the major reason why it has never been able to be universally accepted in the world's sports communities, why there are thousands of hockey fans who love playing the game but find the pro game distasteful.
"Whenever you have the puck, and don't know what to do with it, put it in the net." – Toe Blake
That's Gandhi Gauthier and Mohandas Martin's philosophy in a nutshell. Turn the other cheek and let the referees and the league protect you. How's that working out?
The 1975-76 Canadiens dispensed justice to the Phlyers and never looked back.
If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
Rule 42.1
A poor call by the ref probably opens the door for Shanahan to rationalize the situation and give Lucic a slap on the wrist.
Steve – I think you're right. Shanahan will argue that the hit has already been punished in accordance with the rule book. It will be judged a "hockey play," even though the puck was long gone – as it was in the case of Chara's hit on Pacioretty. At most, Lucic will get one game, but I don't expect even that.
Forget about the 7.5 mil – as long as Gomez can help the team win – no matter what line he's on – that's what we wanna see you can complain all you want about him being paid 7.5 mil it's not gonna change – we want him to help win games and that's the bottom line – the other guys playing on his line – yes they make a whole lot less – that's not Gomez fault. get over it.
"You put a guy like (Scott) Gomez vs. (Mike) Blunden, and you have an experienced player with good speed"
I've translated this into non "NumbNutz Coach" for those that dont have Google translate"
"You pay a fourth line player 7.5 million more to float around a few times and slide the puck out to an opposing player vs paying a young big 4th liner 7.5 mill less to bang bodies and stick up for his teamates and skate straight to the net with his stick on the ice"
Ooh Aah Habs on the war path
I really like Blunden but he can't fight. Not that that shortcoming should preclude him from squashing guys with his 6'4″ 218# frame. And yeah he is a good skater. Infinitely preferable to having Nomez on the team.
If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
It's all relative. My grandmother can fight when compared to Gomer
Ooh Aah Habs on the war path
Lucic says the aftermath was a joke. He said his team would have taken care of business. Not only does he hurt Miller, then then laughs into the face of the entire Buffalo team.
Just like our team. I haven't seen retribution from the Chara hit.
Boo him all you want fans, but he got away with it.
I'm going to be in for the Boston game next Monday. I'll be disappointed if there isn't one Bruin on the ice bleeding like the pigs they are….oh but it was an accident of course.
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What exactly do you do about Chara, have a hockey stick fashioned like a sword cane, pull it out and cut off his leg? Because that's about what it would take to bring him down.
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If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
The Lucic/Miller incident will be the true litmus test for Shanahan and the NHL. The hit was a clear black and white situation. There is no circumstance that can be up for debate or interpretation. Not to mention that Lucic is a repeat offender. A ten game suspension would be a definitive statement that the league means business about cleaning up the game.
I think fighting is a waste of time and detracts from the sport. However, there are times when a team must answer back. Especially when a goalie gets run as badly as Miller was. Gaustad, Pominville, Vanek, Myers and Sekera were on the ice for Buffalo when the headhunting occurred. The guys who were 6'4″ and 6'8″ did not respond. Same goes for the team's captain and assistant captain who were on the ice at the time. Miller said that Lucic was a piece of shit. I say that these five guys are cowards.
Who would have responded for Montreal? That's hard to say but I would venture that only Subban or MaxPac might answer the call. Cole has only been here for a very short time so it's hard to know what he would do.
This much I know to be true. If that was Price instead of Miller, our season would be over if the concussion that occurred was long-term.
It's really becoming more difficult to come here to this site and cheer for my team when the league allows this type of blatant behaviour to go on. The people who run the NHL (Bettman, Shanahan, GM's) are just as gutless as the five Sabres who were on the ice last night.
For the love of the game? Not today.
Budaj might surprise you. Sham-a-ham too, he started okay before the GMs slapped him down and or he co-opted himself. The fact Luchicken has a hearing indicates there will be a suspension, we'll see. I say it should be minimum five games.
If it wasn't for St. Patrick the Canadiens would be Leafs East.
Ladouceur's report is dead on ,DD improving to 83% in face off is impressing for a small guy and of course Gomez give aways on the power play is tiring
the sad part is – the Sabres could prolly do the same thing to the Habs with no response…anyone thinks Diaz or Weber could or would do a damn thing about a hit like that on Price. I bet Buffalo makes it a tough night for the Habs….if anyone on any team ran Thomas like that – it would be a very very long night for any skilled players on that team…the way it should be.
The way it should be? I'm here to watch the skilled players play hockey, not the tough guys intimidating them.
To each his own but you will have to wait a while now to watch the SKILL of Miller displayed in the Buffalo nets.
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12 October 2012 The Security Council today extended the United Nations peacekeeping mission in Haiti for another year, and decided to reduce the overall force levels as responsibility for security is gradually handed over to the national police.
Acting unanimously, the 15-member Council extended the UN Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH) until 15 October 2013 so that it can continue to help restore a secure and stable environment, to promote the political process, to strengthen Haiti's Government institutions and rule-of-law-structures, as well as to promote and to protect human rights.
It also decided that MINUSTAH's overall force levels will consist of up to 6,270 troops – reduced from the authorized military strength of 7,340 – of all ranks through "a balanced withdrawal" of infantry and engineering personnel, and of a police component of up to 2,601 personnel, consistent with the proposals in Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's most recent report
In the report, Mr. Ban stated that the Mission's consolidation proposals assume that its military component will gradually hand over responsibility for security to formed police units and, ultimately, to the national police as the latter's numbers and capacity grow.
The transfer from military to formed police units is already completed in four of the ten departments – South, Grand-Anse, Nippes and North-West – he noted. By July 2013, MINUSTAH intends to concentrate its military presence into five security hubs in Port-au-Prince, Léogâne, Gonaïves, Cap-Haïtien and Ouanaminthe.
"This gradual concentration of the military presence would be balanced by the deployment of formed police units to the vacated departments, a transition model that has already proved effective," he wrote.
Also by today's resolution, MINUSTAH's police component – currently authorized at 3,241 – will be reduced to 2,601.
"The strengthening of the national police remains a key prerequisite for the Mission's eventual withdrawal from Haiti," Mr. Ban stated, adding that recent steps by the Government, with the Mission's assistance, to increase the numbers of police recruits, in particular female recruits, are encouraging and should help to accelerate the currently insufficient intake of new police cadets.
The Security Council established MINUSTAH in June 2004. In addition to its mandated tasks, it has been helping support Haiti's authorities with recovery efforts in the wake of massive earthquake which struck in January 2010.
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Description: Miramonti Boutique HotelMiramonti Boutique Hotel is a unique romantic mountain retreat located in the idyllic Dolomites in South Tyrol, Italy. Nestled on the mountain side 1,230 meters above sea level, Miramonti Boutique Hotel has stunning views of the Etsch Valley and the Vigiljoch. Historic yet modern, luxurious yet authentic and unpretentious, Miramonti Boutique Hotel is a hidden treasure.The perfect spot for a Spa holiday or a romantic honeymoon near Merano, and a must see for any European vacation, this quiet boutique hotel features Wi-Fi Internet, 36 comfortable bedrooms, an indoor swimming pool, the Panorama Restaurant with local wines, as well as discreet personalized services and activities. Type of rooms: Miramonti Boutique Hotel10 Suites with two king size beds for a maximum occupancy of 6 people.12 Double Rooms with one king size bed for a maximum occupancy of 2 people (single use also possible). A double room with two single beds is possible. 14 Superior Rooms with one king size bed and 2 additional beds (80x200 cm) for a maximum occupancy of 4 people. Extra beds: extra bed can be added in Superior Rooms of at least 45 sqm and in Suites of 50 sqm. Cost of extra bed: for children 0-2 years old, 100% discount = free. For children 2-5 years old, 70% discount, 5-14 years old, 50%. For guests 15 years old and older there is a discount of 20% for an extra bed. They cannot always confirm certain room numbers and floors but do their best to take your wish into account. Additional information: Miramonti Boutique HotelDining:
The Panorama Restaurant is for fine dining featuring light, hearty and creative cuisine accompanied by regional wines. With just 30 seats, this restaurant is listed in the Michelin Guide and L'Espresso. Please reserve a table. Panorama Restaurant "fine dining": daily open from 07:00 to 09:30 p.m. Miramonti Stube and Miramonti Sun Terrace: lunch 12 to 2 p.m. After 2 p.m.: just snacks. Arrival Dinner: If you will not be able to have dinner on arrival day before 08.00 p.m., please let them know in advance. Children: All kids are welcome. People under 12 years old must share a room with a parent or caretaker. There are discounts for an extra bed according to the age of the child. Dogs: Dogs can be accommodated by prior arrangement (charged per day without food). The Miramonti reserves the right to make any necessary final cleaning for an additional fee. Please understand that dogs are not alllowed in some rooms and in the Miramonti Panorama Restaurant and in the pool area. Leashes are obligatory on the whole property. RATES are per person, per day and include: Welcome prosecco or home-made elderflower juice Miramonti breakfast buffet and à la carte until 11.00 a.m. with homemade products Herbal tea, dried fruit and seasonal fruits in the Vitalis-Spa From 2 till 5 p.m. Tea Time by the fireplace or on the Miramonti terrace with homemade pastries and fruit No refunds for meals not taken. DEPOSIT REQUIRED: a deposit of 25% of the total amount by credit card or by bank transfer. CANCELLATIONS: All cancellations have a processing fee of EUR 26. If cancelled more than 2 weeks prior to check-in date, the deposit is refunded minus the processing fee. If cancelled 2 weeks to 4 days prior to check-in date, no refund of the deposit (25% of the total amount is charged). If cancelled 4 to 0 days prior to check-in date, 80% of the total amount is charged. For check-out prior to scheduled departure date, 80% of the total amount is charged. For check-in after scheduled arrival date, 80% of the total amount is charged. No refunds for meals not taken. Cancellation Insurance: holiday insurance which covers cancellation costs is highly recommended. Avoid cancellation and late charges by paying EUR 3.00 per person per day known as a Cancellation Fee to be booked directly with the hotel. Special Discounts: For bookings of one week or more, receive a 15% discount. For bookings of 4-6 days, get a 10% discount. Early Bird: book 3 months prior to check-in date and prepay 25% upon booking to receive a 5% discount. Not valid for special offers and packages. All costs, prices, and policies, including exchange rates, package deals, and cancellation policy may change and should be confirmed with the hotel upon booking. Getting There: BY CAR: Via Brenner Pass: Coming from the Brenner Pass, drive towards Bozen/Bolzano. Take the exit Bozen Süd/Bolzano Sud and turn in direction of Superstrada Bozano- Merano. Follow the signs to Mebo. Exit at Meran Süd/Merano Sud in the direction of the SS38. Turn right towards Hafling. Follow the directions to the MIRAMONTI Boutique Hotel. BY CAR: Via Reschen Pass: Coming from the Reschenpass you drive through the Vinschgau Valley towards Meran/Merano. Take the exit Meran Süd/Merano Sud and turn right at the first crossing. Follow the main road SSP98 towards Hafling/Avalengo. On the mountain road, passing through four tunnels, turn left immediately after the 4th tunnel and follow the yellow route to St. Kathrein. Follow the directions to the MIRAMONTI Boutique Hotel. BY PLANE: Fly to Innsbruck, Bolzano and Verona. From there you can use various airport transfers to get to the Miramonti Boutique Hotel. WITH YOUR OWN HELICOPTER: It is possible to land your helicopter in front of the St. Kathrein churche (100 m). For private jets and helicopter transfer please contact the reception. BY TRAIN: Destination: Meran/Merano (Austrian Railway: ÖBB, German Railway: DB, Swiss Railway: SBB, Italian Railway: Trenitalia) |
Basic Info:
Number of rooms: 36
Official category: 4 stars.
Year of establishment and/or latest refurbishment: 1932/2008.
Period of closure: open all year.
Smoking policy: Smoking in room in our hotel.Credit cards accepted: Visa, MasterCard, Diners. Debit card: Maestro. Cash. How to get here: The Miramonti Boutique Hotel is located in the village of St. Kathrein in Hafling. Take the exit Meran Süd/Merano Sud, follow the road 98 SSP in direction Hafling/Avelengo, you will pass 4 tunnels (Note: each is numbered at the tunnel entrance). 200 meters after the 4th Tunnel, turn left and follow the yellow route - St. Kathrein and follow the signs to the Hotel Miramonti. GPS Coordinates: 46° 38' 59.69'' N 11° 12' 31.65'' E Nearest airport: Airport of Bolzano - 30km. - Verona - 190 km. Innsbruck 110 km.


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Aeromo Crime Family History
Paul Aeromo was born in Florence, Italy in 1987. Growing up on the streets doing errands for John Gravelli, who at the time was mainly in Italy when not in Liberty City. After years of doing small time deals and errands Paul was asked by Gravelli to help him out with some business in Liberty City, Shortly after arriving in Liberty City Paul was a new kid on the block with high hopes and dreams. He wanted to make it big with cars, boats, houses, woman, he wanted it all. Mr.Gravelli always said Paul was a good earner, unfortunately just after Paul got off the boat and was on his way to see Gravelli he found out that John Gravelli had died in a hospital bed. Paul had no clue what to do; he spent some time doing small time jobs again for some of the criminal organizations around Liberty City.
Paul was doing a job with some bikers, it was a drug deal. But actually it was a LCPD sting operation. Paul got caught for possession and served 2years in Alderney State Prison. Soon after his release back into society Paul came in contact with a another crime syndicate based in Alderney, he did a few jobs for these guys here and there and soon got his big break. They gave Paul an opportunity to start his own crew. Paul took this chance by storm, starting out with just a couple of guys he made slowly rose up from the slums and into estates with his new found business partners the Biancos. Paul was able to establish his own family and was starting to bring in real money like he always wanted. Now Paul has the money, the power, and the respect that he has always wanted, and a few new friends.
The Family
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Auguste Rodin (1840 -1917)
Torso of Adèle
Before 1884
H. 11 cm ; W. 37.5 cm ; D. 16.4 cm
One of Rodin's favourite models was Adèle Abbruzzesi, from whose supple,muscular body he drew inspiration for several strikingly sensual, female figures. Clay, which he modelled while standing in front of the sitter or which he pressed into a mould and later reworked, was the ideal material to use for a sketch, notably because of its capacity to evoke the velvety texture of the skin. With his virtuoso modelling skills, Rodin managed to convey the softness of a woman's belly, her arched back and even the weight of her breasts.
The sculptor was very fond of this study, which he completed by adding legs and arms, so as to use it as a sort of linking device on the upper left-hand corner of The Gates of Hell . In a slightly modified version, with a head, this torso was also used for the female figure in Eternal Springtime.


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Dr. Peter Linneman – 2013 Global Market Outlook: Latin America
Mar 28th
"In recent years, Brazil's strong GDP growth rate has earned it a spot among the overly-hyped BRIC nations (along with Russia, India, and China) as a great place to invest," said Dr. Linneman, "However, it is important to keep in mind that the BRIC economies are growing from a smaller base than the U.S."
Dr. Linneman went on to explain that in 2010 and again in 2011, with the exception of Russia, the growth in US dollars exceeded that of all the BRIC countries. "But growth for the sake of growth is useless; the real reason a country grows is to improve the standard of living of its population," Linneman explained, "From a purely economic perspective, where would a nationality-blind consumer (or investor) choose to live (invest)? Would this consumer choose Brazil, Russia, India, China, or the U.S.? If given the option, most choose America. At the end of the day, the U.S. is a better place to put dollars to work in spite of high BRIC growth rates."
Real Estate Recovery is All About Job Growth
Nov 26th
PRINCETON, NJ, November 26, 2012 – In his latest white paper, "Real Estate Recovery is all About Job Growth," NAI Global Chief Economist, Dr. Peter Linneman, outlines that without a robust job recovery, the real estate market will continue to be slow to recover. He states, "After peaking in October 2009 at 10% (revised), the U.S.unemployment rate stood at 7.8% at the end of September 2012, primarily due to 100,000 people leaving the labor force since June. Instead of a robust recovery spurred by the largest peacetime federal spending increase, the economy limps forward under the burdens of excessive government spending and regulatory incursions."
He also cites, "The single most important indicator for real estate is the proportion of lost jobs that has been recovered to date. This is because at the beginning of the recession, almost all property sectors were in balance. As the recession set in, we lost 8.8
million jobs, and only as these jobs are recovered will real estate space demand approach 2008 levels."
"Thus far, the U.S. has recovered 48.5% of Payroll Survey jobs and 58% of Household Survey jobs, leaving us 16
million jobs (1.9 standard deviations) below the historical growth trend. The U.S. added just 437,000 jobs over the last three months, a pace which is in line with the tepid 1.8 million jobs gained over the trailing 12 months through September. At the current pace, we will not recover all lost jobs until 2015."
The white paper also addresses the health of the U.S. real estate recovery being tied to the strength and timing of the nation's macroeconomic recovery and cites "the best news is that single-family and multifamily housing starts finally are on a clear ascent."
A PDF of the white paper can be downloaded here:
About NAI Global
NAI Global is one of the leading commercial real estate services providers worldwide. Headquartered in Princeton, New Jersey, NAI Global manages a network of 5,000 commercial real estate professionals and 350 offices in over 55 countries, and completes over $45 billion in annual transaction volume. Since 1978, NAI Global clients have built their businesses on the power of NAI's expanding network. NAI Global's extensive services include corporate real estate services, brokerage and leasing, property and facilities management, real estate investment and capital market services, due diligence, global supply chain consulting and related advisory services. To learn more, visit www.naiglobal.com.
NAI Global Expands Into the Northeastern Caribbean with NAI Puerto Rico
Oct 11th
NAI Global, the premier managed network of commercial real estate firms and one of the largest real estate services providers worldwide, announces its expansion of coverage into the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, with the addition of NAI Puerto Rico.
Headquartered in San Juan, NAI Puerto Rico is a full-service commercial firm offering a complete range of real estate services including tenant representation, marketing research, location consulting, project management, lease renewals/restructures and acquisitions/dispositions
NAI Puerto Rico was founded by Hector J. Aponte SIOR, an industry veteran with over 15 years of experience in the commercial real estate industry. Hector has completed a wide array of major real estate transactions in Puerto Rico, for private and government clients such as Bayer, Sanofi, Publicis, ConAgra Foods, WPP, CSA Group, Marsh & McLennan, Starbucks Coffee, U.S. Army, IRS, and the EPA.
"By joining NAI, we are expanding our capabilities and resources to many international markets; this will definitely boost our services and will keep us on top," said NAI Business Director, Mr. Hector J. Aponte. "NAI gives us new technology, tools, shared resources, marketing, and access to over 350 offices worldwide, which will enable us to develop new opportunities for clients looking for extensive representation or international resources."
"This is a key market for us, especially for our corporate and investor clients seeking to take advantage of the commonwealth's attractive tax policies," said NAI Global President, Jeffrey Finn. "With Hector and his team at NAI Puerto Rico, we now have some of the best real estate experts in that region to serve our clients. I am excited about our new partnership and look forward to working together in the coming months and years."
NAI Global is among the largest commercial real estate services organizations in the world, comprising 5,000+ professionals in 55 countries in more than 350 offices. NAI advisors such as NAI Puerto Rico work in tandem with its global management team to ensure clients strategically optimize their real estate assets. NAI offices complete over $45 billion in combined transactions annually and manage over 300 million square feet of commercial space.
NAI Puerto Rico is located at Ponce de Leon Avenue #1072, San Juan 00928
About NAI Global
NAI Global's extensive services include corporate real estate services, brokerage and leasing, property and facilities management, real estate investment and capital market services, due diligence, global supply chain consulting and related advisory services. To learn more, visit www.naiglobal.com. Follow us on Twitter (@NAIGlobal) and Facebook.
Unprecedented Global Government Intervention
Aug 6th
In his latest white paper, "Unprecedented Global Government Intervention," NAI Global Chief Economist, Dr. Peter Linneman, discusses the dangers and pitfalls of an extraordinary wave of global government intervention taking place in capital markets. Citing historical examples, he demonstrates intervention only prolongs periods of stagnation and uncertainty. "In all, government activity is now deterring the very investment it was hoping to spur."
As we enter the third quarter of 2012, we are seeing the pattern of unprecedented government intervention continue. Governments around the world are using the powerful tools at their disposal; spending, regulations, fiscal policy, and taxes to interfere with the free market in hope of sparking economic recovery. The result is that instead of recovery, we are experiencing further distress as the Euro crisis intensifies and even Brazil and China's economies slow.
Welcome To The Confused
Jul 8th
The following post is an excerpt from the Summer 2012 issue of The Linneman Letter.
Every executive with whom we speak expresses utter confusion about the state of the global and U.S. economy and capital markets. As a result, they are in a muddle about their investment strategies. They closely monitor economic and capital market data for signs that "everything is all right," yet even as the U.S. economy grows at a seemingly healthy rate, they remain extraordinarily ill at ease. Why?
Simply stated, this discomfort reflects the fact that even though U.S. real GDP and employment are growing at moderately healthy paces, we remain in totally uncharted waters in terms of both the economy and our capital markets. And when private decision makers are in unfamiliar (and unrecognizable) landscapes, they act very cautiously.
For example, we have not seen in our lifetime federal budget deficits as large as those which currently exist. Not only is U.S. federal spending as a percent of GDP at a peace-time high, but federal revenues as a percent of GDP are well below their historic norm, resulting in unprecedented budget deficits. Compounding the problem of unprecedented U.S. budget deficits is the fact that there is neither political leadership nor a political consensus on how to bring the federal budget back in balance. This is creating a situation in which the only clarity is that the current situation is not sustainable.


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The fetal origins of adult disease
BMJ 2001; 322 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.322.7283.375 (Published 17 February 2001) Cite this as: BMJ 2001;322:375No longer just a hypothesis and may be critically important in south Asia
- Roger Robinson, associate editor
David Barker pioneered the idea that the 20th century epidemic of coronary heart disease in Western countries might have originated in fetal life.1
Paradoxically, the epidemic coincided with improved standards of living and nutrition, yet in Britain its greatest impact was in the most deprived areas. Barker observed that early in the 20th century these areas had the highest rates of neonatal mortality and by inference the highest rates of low birth weight. He postulated that impaired fetal growth might have predisposed the survivors to heart disease in later life. The first world congress on the fetal origins of adult disease in Mumbai earlier this month provided an opportunity to assess the state of the hypothesis and consider its implications for future research and policy.
Barker's group originally examined cardiovascular mortality in men born in Hertfordshire, England, in the early decades of the century, on whom good records had been kept of size at birth and growth in infancy. Deaths from ischaemic heart disease were indeed commoner in men who had been small at birth and at 1 year. This kind of retrospective cohort study depends on anthropometric measurements in infancy having been preserved. At least seven such studies have shown that lower birth weight is associated with higher risks of later ischaemic heart disease and diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance. These …
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Report: Arabs burning 'First Temple cedars'
Beams dated to biblical times dumped for use as firewood
Cedar beams dating to biblical times found at Jerusalem's Temple Mount, moved some time ago out of doors and left in the weather, now have been deposited unceremoniously at a dumping ground for local Arabs to use as firewood, according to a new report.
According to Israel National News, it was a group of Jews who ascended the Temple Mount on Sunday who were shocked to see the ancient beams – apparently used during the time of the Holy Temple – left to be used for firewood.
Archaeologists have dated the beams to the First Temple period, and they have been described as the "Cedars of Lebanon," which are discussed in the Tanach.
Officials with the Temple Mount Sifting Project appeared to confirm parts of the report, citing an article from Nadav Shragai of Israel Hayom! that the beams were endangered.
"Some of these beams predate the first al-Aqsa Mosue and have been used and reused numerous times in various structures, which actually aided in their preservation. We have some fragments of these beams among the finds at the Sifting Project," the report said.
"We have been monitoring these beams for many years as they law exposed to the weather in the open courts of the Temple Mount," the report said. "We hope the Israel Antiquities Authority will succeed in placing them in a safe shelter before the coming winter. We have been requesting that the IAA deal with this issue more than three years, but these ancient beams have yet to be properly secured."
According to the new INN report, the beams first appeared in the 1930s at a time when the Muslim mosque on the Temple Mount was being refurbished.
"At that time they were said to be thousands of years old by archaeologists – preserved only because they had been used in the building," the report said. Some pieces were dated to Roman times, others to the Byzantine era.
After they were taken from the mosque, they were placed in a museum, but in recent years were moved to a corner of the Mount in the elements, the report said.
Now, many of the beams have been placed at what appears to be a dumping ground next to the Golden Gate of the Old City, "apparently for the use of local Arabs as firewood," the report said. "Jewish groups that visited the Mount saw the beams being moved, but reported that the Arabs forbade them to take photos of the activity. Officials of the Archaeology Authority, who are responsible for the safety of these ancient beams, are nowhere to be seen."
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Gardner Parks and Recreation is offering a competitive youth basketball league for both boys and girls. Games will be played in Gardner schools on Sundays between 12:00 and 8:00 p.m. Only team sign-ups will be accepted. If numbers are low, age groups may be combined. Top two teams per division will be given awards. Gardner teams will be allotted one practice slot per week. Those slots will be chosen at the coaches meeting prior to each session. Practices will be beginning October 24. Each session will run for 6 weeks.
Session I dates: November 6-December 18
Session II dates: January 8-Febraury 19
Fees: $400 per session or $750 for both sessions
Registration Deadline: October 14 for Session I and December 9 for Session II
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My wife and I and another couple are headed to Australia in mid May to hunt Buffalo and Scrub Bulls. First we are going to the Great Barrier Reef, does anyone have advice on a place to stay in Cairns or Port Douglass? Bashaw
G'day Bashaw, congrats on taking the plunge with your hunt "down-under", let me wish you all the very best of success on your hunt and I hope your visit to our wonderfull country meets with your expectations. With regards to staying in either Cairns or Port Douglas may I advise, if you have the time , try and spend at least a couple of days in each as they are quite different. Cairns is a fair sized City, great beaches, golf courses, tourism options etc, whereas Port Douglas is still a quaint, small sized sea-side resort, with all the same ammenities only on a smaller scale. (If you happen to be in Port on a Friday night, make sure you drop in to Macrossans Hotel for a few quiet ones and some live music). For accomms in Cairns visit; Travel: Cheap Flights, Hotels, Holiday Packages & Car Hire | Expedia.com.au (There are some fantastic off-shore, blue water fishing oportunities whilst in Cairns, including game fishing charters whilst your wives are spending all your money in the jewellry, clothing and suiveneer shops !) The Mirage Port Douglas is indeed very "flash" and extremely opulant, if that's your (or your wive's) thing, with a lagoon that surrounds the Motel/Resort and a competition grade, 14 hole, golf course. Ofcourse, you don;t have to spend that much, for more options visit;Port Douglas Info.com - Port Douglas Accommodation, Activities & Info Whilst in Port you can visit the Miranda Markets (up in the rainforest hills, you'll need a hire car) or your within a stones throw of the Daintree River (National Heratige Listed) and only 28 miles from the reef. Either way both towns have their own appeal and are definitley worth the visit. Safe travel and best of luck on your hunt, Paul Truccolo.
are we going to need to rent a car or is there other modes of transportation? thanks for the info you have given me so far Eric
Hi Eric. It will all depend on how much time you have and just how much you actually wanted to see. If you are staying in Cairns and wish to day-trip to Port Douglas, some of the Hotels offer shuttle/coach buses, but if you wanted to do your own thing you will need a rental. Port is near on 100 km's from Cairns (just on an hours drive) along one of the most scenic coastal roads in Australia. If you are simply staying in Cairns and not travelling beyond, Cairns City is well serviced with cabs and public transport. If you are simply staying in Port, the town is small and most ammenities can be achieved by walking or catching one of the cabs they have. Hope this is of some help. Paul.
Just a small correction here Paul, the markets are a Kuranda, not Miranda, and to add to that, you can catch a tourist train to Kuranda from Cairns and take the Skyrail (cable car) down over the rainforest canopy to the bottom station and then take a bus back to Cairns. I highly recommend this option, the view of the coast and to be able to look down into the rainforest is pretty special.
Thanks John, correction duely noted and apprecaited. Also, thanks for the additional info, your suggestion of taking the skyrail back down sounds well worth while, have not done that one myself. Ofcourse there are many other tourism options available to anyone visiting Far North Queensland, than those mentioned here, making a visit to the region well worth while. Thanks again, Paul.
I made it home we had an awesome time I killed 2 nice Bulls and my buddy killed 1 nice Bull. Andrew Mackay showed us a heck of a good time He's a hard working son of a gun, good cook and a great host.
Great to see you get amongst-em Bashaw. Nice bulls, well done, looks like Andrew took care of you very well, great to see international hunters enjoying success in Australia and leaving with a positive impression:thumb::thumb:
The 1st one was my first day there and I seen a small Bull and I wanted to get a picture of him, while we were doing that we came across some more fresh sign and I thought I probably should keep my eyes peeled when all of a sudden there he was I shot him in the shoulder he went down and came up immediately Andrew said spine him as he turned away, so I did and dropped him it was about an 80 yd shot. The 2nd one we were headed back to camp in the evening when we spotted this big Bull he looked at us from about 60 yds he tilted his head back and smelled us and then he decided it was time for a roll in the wallow while his feet were in the air I closed the distance to 20 yds with Andrew right behind me with his 416 when the Bull stood up and looked away from me I shot him behind the ear and dropped him in his tracks.
GREAT Trophies! bashaw! Hope you also had a Great Adventure! Do you know the measurements of the last bull you shot? His horns make your rifle and arms look small. Also what rifles were you and your friend using?
I shot mine with a 338 Win Mag 250gr Nosler partition Buzz shot his with a 375 H&H Swift A Frame. Buzz' Bull was 92 My Bulls were 93 and 102
Very nice bashaw. I'm somewhat local (based in Sydney) and will be heading up there for buffalo at the end of August. Hope I have half the luck you had; that 102 bull looks magnificent! I'll be using a .450 Ackley Magnum with 500 Woodleighs at 2,385fps. Gave great results on Cape Buff in Zim so hopefully I can do my bit in August. Are you going to shoulder mount the trophies? What's your plan?


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Far, far away is mirth withdrawn 'Tis three long hours before the morn And I watch lonely, drearily - So come thou shade commune with me Deserted one ! thy corpse lies cold And mingled with a foreign mould - Year after year the grass grows green Above the dust where thou hast been. I will not name thy blighted name Tarnished by unforgotton shame Though not because my bosom torn Joins the mad world in all its scorn - Thy phantom face is dark with woe Tears have left ghastly traces there, Those ceaseless tears ! I wish their flow Could quench thy wild despair. They deluge my heart like the rain On cursed Gomorrah's howling plain - Yet when I hear thy foes deride I must cling closely to thy side - Our mutual foes - they will not rest From trampling on thy buried breast - Glutting there hatred with the doom They picture thine, beyond the tomb - But God is not like human kind Man cannot read the Almighty mind Vengeance will never tortue they Nor hunt thy soul eternally Then do not in this night of grief This time of over whelming fear O do not think that God can leave Forget, forsake, refuse to hear ! - What have I dreamt ? He lies asleep With whom my heart would vainly weep He rests - and I endure the woe That left his spirit long ago -
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Accommodation Availability
Bushman Wilderness Trail (BUSHMAN WILDERNESS TRAI)
Base Rate * | R4500.00 |
Rate reflected valid for | 2017-03-01 - 2017-10-31 |
Additional Adult | R4500.00 |
Additional Child | N/A |
Base Rate (no. people) | 1 |
Max (no. beds/people) | 1 |
The Base Rate amount is charged for any number of guests occupying a unit not exceeding the base number for that accommodation type (in this case 1). Any additional Adults and Children exceeding the base capacity are charged in addition to the base rate amount per persons up to the amount of beds or guests allowed in the unit.
- No smoking
- Overnight huts, each with 2 single beds
- Report to Berg en Dal reception at 15:00 on day 1
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