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Sorry to hear that you are having boot problems. That goes beyond any area I know very well. I've only ever installed from CDs and DVDs.
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Well I tried to download Linux Mint
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If you have 16GB of RAM, you won't need swap for the purposes you say you want. You might create a 1-2GB swap as sometimes you will get a warning message if you don't create swap.
You will need to be a lot more specific about what happened. Your last post is not clear. First, why try to download Mint when you earlier indicated you already had it on a flash drive? How did you try to set up partitions? You will need to post more specifics about exactly what you did.
Are you now able to boot the Mint flash drive or CD (did you burn it to CD also??)
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Alright well good news, I got the situation (mostly) figured it, turns out I had a windows file responsible for some processes stored in my SSD (which I formatted specifically to remove all of those pesky files but it didn't seem to remove). I didn't realize how to manage disks and this windows file was the active file for the drive. I simply switched the active file to the partition with Linux and it worked right away, not sure what to do about this random 100mb windows file hehe .
Yancek you're right, I did have mint on a USB that I used Unetbootin to make, but I couldn't find the button to actually...well, install the whole thing. I thought maybe using another program to do so, and I did, and it worked ! I forget which program, I just googled around a bit for how to install from a USB. The reason I didn't see the drives before as well was because the partitions I made while installing mint didn't have a name (D:, C: etc) and they didn't show up in the list of drives.
So I'm typing this up on the fully installed version of mint now and quite pleased my computer didn't blow up!
Thanks for all the help everybody
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...and there was much rejoicing!
Just a little FYI. If you were looking for the EXT partition(s) you made to show up in Windows....They didn't show up because Windows can't read partitions formatted with any EXT file system.
Congratulations on getting it all up and running. You're becoming a techie already.


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We ask Apple to change for a period of at least four weeks the browser name from "Safari" to "Stop Safari hunting"
We ask Apple to change for a period of at least four weeks the browser name from "Safari" to "Stop Safari hunting"
Stop zoophilia, create an abuser registry, and prevent abusers from owning a pet again.
It is important because any civilized nation, should protect it's women and children.
We must stop TPP, a global corporate coup that undermines democracy, threatens privacy, and endangers the environment!
Killing these wild animals for a so-called "sport" does not help and give benefits anyone
Facebook needs a report function that is specific to reporting "child sexual abuse"
"People think when the abuse is over, it's over, but it's not. If you grow up with something so incredibly twisted, you
Build a advanced Culture of Compassion and Empathy for Humans,Nonhumans,Earth and
Does an Animal Abuser Live in Your Neighborhood? Our communities have good reason to be concerned about the whereabouts
We ask to stop the terrible practice of eating dog meat and tortures to which the dogs are subjected in China.
DR WALTER PALMER SHOT AND KILLED ILLEGALLY, A RESEARCH LION OF PIVOTAL IMPORTANCE. We need a strong signal to the world!
Elephants are highly intelligent creatures. Circuses have been abusing these animals in order to train and control them.
Killing animals for the "thrill of the hunt" for profit or even worse to mount their heads on the wall MUST STOP NOW.
Their are too many animals dieing in shelters everyday because of animals not being spayed and neutered
Tell Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler to cancel his pefromance for RE/MAX for selling illlegal Israeli settlements!
Forced arbitration clauses pre-emptively block consumers from going to court if the bank does something wrong.
Against senior officials in, and legal counsel to, the Bush Administration in their roles in torture
It is highly unethical and unconstitutional to taint our water with harmful chemicals without the consent of the people!
My campaign is crucial due to the concurrent geonicide that is taking place in GAZA.
Tell U.S. officials to take a stand against the ongoing bombing of Gaza and call for a ceasefire immediately!
to End Israel Attack/War on Gaza,Palestine
Innocent people are being traumatized, injured, and killed every day. This must end!
Avlurtingarpakkin rakar ikki bara brotsmenn, men eisini ósekar borgarar, og eigur tí at verða ógildaður sum skjótast.
Animal Advocates working hard to break the silence on Animal cruelty worldwide.
Oklahoma is attacking solar energy and the homeowners who install it! We should encourage clean energy, not fight it!
Nevada officials blast feds over treatment of cattle rancher Cliven Bundy
Privacy alert! Dropbox has appointed former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to its Board of Directors.
Two million Americans become infected with antibiotic-resistant bacteria each year.
Neonicotinoid pesticides (also called "neonics") are killing bees; that's why Europe is banning them.
Please sign our petition to the USDA asking them to reject "Agent Orange" crops!
Jacob Zuma has been involved in so many scandals that he is not a suitable leader nor a good role model for South Africa
AVA Singapore has failed to do a thorough investigation into the case of Tammy
Tras la reforma del artículo 337 del Código Penal, referente al delito de maltrato animal, aumenta considerablemente
Let's Up the Buzz to Protect the Bees!
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The new genetically engineered ArticApple could be approved to enter our food supply as early as December.
The science on climate change is settled. Help destroy persistent climate myths with cold, hard facts.
ELLA was a tame Deer and a well loved member of the local community.Ella lived within the Elmwood Cemetery grounds a
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I pledge to remember America's Vietnam Vets Please remember this U.S. Marine He was a great buddy. Here's a picture
This is why you should sign and share. Poor dog tied to truck and dragged to its death. Please read and then take
Ella the deer who lived in Elmwood Cemetery KCMO. Ella was shot and killed August 4th in the cemetery.
Ask the EPA to change the source of fluoride added to U.S. drinking water.
Boycott the brands that are blocking your right to know about genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in your food.
PLEASE read and then sign our petition. Brownie lived his days on a short, heavy chain, and fell victim to a callous,
Monsanto's genetically engineered crops increase pesticides, not yields or nutrition.
80% of Singapore residents live in HDB flats. These residents are allowed to keep only 1 HDB-approved breed dog. The
Trade Agreements Shouldn't Be Secret!
The NSA is looking through billions of our emails and phone records every day. Fight back to protect our privacy!
93% of Americans want mandatory labels on foods made from Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs).
Please express support and sympathy for the families who lost loved ones in the Sandy Hook shooting, and those injured.
Force Facebook to remove the page, Wolf Butchering, cooking, and recipes, and all its variations. These pages are
The Salmon Peoples of Coast Salish Territory want Reconciliation
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No one should be arrested for trying to do the right thing and no one should have to suffer inhumane conditions,
This is just another step forward in breed discrimination. These owners had already complied with strict ordinances
The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to to keep and bear arms. It must be defended.
The federal minimum wage would be $10.76 if it had kept up with inflation over the past 40 years. Instead, it's $7.25.
I won't even bother inviting you to consider how you feel about your young or infant child being preyed upon by the sick
New York State's laws protect the rapists of children from prosecution meaning they are free to rape more children.
By signing this petition you are giving a voice to the victims of car crime. Too many young lives are lost on our roads
NY Gov Andrew Cuomo is considering lifting the ban on fracking in New York – this must not happen!
We have a right to know what's in our food!
Why You Eat Should Organic Whenever Possible
We join with all those who honor the Creator, and to all who work and pray for our children, for world peace, and for
On July 27th, protests and educational events will be held all over world in front of marine mammal parks and aquariums.

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Spectroscopic Imaging Reveals Early Changes Leading to Breast Tumors
Purdue University researchers have created a new imaging technology that reveals subtle changes in breast tissue, representing a potential tool to determine a woman's risk of developing breast cancer and to study ways of preventing the disease.
The researchers, using a special "3-D culture" that mimics living mammary gland tissue, also showed that a fatty acid found in some foods influences this early precancerous stage. Unlike conventional cell cultures, which are flat, the 3-D cultures have the round shape of milk-producing glands and behave like real tissue, said Sophie Lelièvre (pronounced Le-LEE-YEA-vre), an associate professor of basic medical sciences.
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Researchers are studying changes that take place in epithelial cells, which make up tissues and organs where 90 percent of cancers occur. The changes in breast tissue are thought to be necessary for tumors to form, she said.
"By mimicking the early stage conducive to tumors and using a new imaging tool, our goal is to be able to measure this change and then take steps to prevent it," Lelièvre said.
The new imaging technique, called vibrational spectral microscopy, can be used to identify and track certain molecules by measuring their vibration with a laser. Whereas other imaging tools may take days to get results, the new method works at high speed, enabling researchers to measure changes in real time in live tissue, said Ji-Xin Cheng, an associate professor of biomedical engineering and chemistry.
By monitoring the same 3-D culture before and after exposure to certain risk factors, the new method enables researchers to detect subtle changes in single live cells, he said.
Findings are detailed in a research paper that appeared in February in the Biophysical Journal. The paper was written by doctoral students Shuhua Yue, Juan Manuel Cárdenas-Mora, and Lesley S. Chaboub, Lelièvre and Cheng.
"This work shows the importance of engineering for the development of primary prevention research in breast cancer," said Yue, a biomedical engineering student whose work was funded through a fellowship from the U.S. Department of Defense Breast Cancer Research Program.
The research is part of the International Breast Cancer and Nutrition (IBCN) project launched by Purdue in October 2010 to better understand the role nutrients and other environmental factors play in breast tissue alterations and cancer development.
Researchers studied live tissue in a culture that reproduces the mammary epithelium.
"This extremely sensitive technique shows the harmful impact of a nutrient called arachidonic acid," said Lelièvre, associate director of Discovery Groups at the Purdue Center for Cancer Research. "This fatty acid has been previously proposed to increase breast cancer risk, but until now there was no biological evidence of what it could do to alter breast epithelial cells."
The imaging method detects changes in the "basoapical polarity" of epithelial tissues. Specific proteins and other biochemical compounds called lipids are normally located in one of two regions, called the basal and apical membranes. Because only certain proteins and lipids are found in basal membranes, while others are located only in apical membranes, the cells are said to be polarized.
"This polarity is critical for the proper structure and function of tissue," Lelièvre said. "What we have shown previously is that when polarity is altered, tissue that otherwise looks normal can be pushed into a cell cycle necessary to form a tumor. It's the earliest change in the epithelial tissue that puts the cells at risk to form a tumor. Now, thanks to the vibrational spectral microscopy technique developed by Dr. Cheng, we can measure apical polarity status in live tissues and real time."
The findings could lead to a method for preventing tumor formation by restoring the proper polarity.
"We are mimicking formation of breast epithelium as it is normally polarized, and we can play with it and make it lose apical polarity on demand," Lelièvre said. "Then we can mimic an early change thought to be conducive to tumor development."
The researchers aim to use the imaging technology on live 3-D cultures of noncancerous breast tissue to screen for protective and risk factors for breast cancer the same way that tumors are used now in cultures to screen for drugs that can be used for treatment.
"Now there is no good way to assess risk for breast cancer," Lelièvre said. "Assessments are mainly based on family history and genetic changes, and this only accounts for a very small percentage of women who get breast cancer. We need technologies to assess the risk better and then screen for protective factors that could be used on individual patients because not everybody will be responsive to the same factors."
The National Cancer Institute estimates that in the United States in 2009 more than 192,000 women were diagnosed with breast cancer and more than 40,000 women died of the disease.
An immediate application of the technique is a way to study cell lines created from tissue taken from women at different risk levels, screening for factors that could restore full polarity in the breast tissue to prevent tumor formation.
"The state of the art is to take tumor cells, put them in a 3-D culture where they form tumors, and then test drugs on these tumors," Lelièvre said. "What we want to do now is the same thing but for preventive strategies using a normal tissue."
In a collaboration with researchers at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, the team plans to study cell lines from women who are at different risk levels.
The new imaging tool was needed because conventional live cell imaging methods are designed for flat cell cultures. Mimicking tissue polarity requires a 3-D culture to form the mammary gland structures at the end of the breast ducts. The structures resemble tiny balls about 30 microns in diameter and contain about 35 cells.
Cheng said his lab will continue to develop a "hyperspectral" imaging system capable of not only imaging a specific point in a culture but also many locations to form a point-by-point map so that tissue polarity can be directly visualized.
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Work on major improvements to a West Norfolk community hall is set to begin later this year after a £50,000 grant was secured for the project.
An appeal to raise £100,000 to pay for renovations to the village meeting place in North Runcton was launched in December.
Now, the scheme has been awarded a grant for half the cost by WREN's FCC Community Action Fund,
The money will be used alongside the proceeds of ongoing community fundraising to pay for improved facilities, disabled access and an expanded lobby area to the building.
Parish council chairman Rick Morrish, said: "This project will provide a real boost to the people of North Runcton.
"It's fantastic that WREN has awarded us this money and we're really looking forward to our village hall improvements taking shape over the next few months.
"The works will be arranged to minimise disruption to hirers and neighbours and it is proposed the first phase will be undertaken this summer."
The campaign was launched during a Christmas party in December and further funds are expected to be raised at a quiz night on March 3.
An online fundraising page has also been set up via www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/VMP.
Ben Walker, WREN's Norfolk grant manager, said: "We're delighted to be supporting this project to provide a more welcoming, accessible and sustainable hall that will benefit so many people within North Runcton and the surrounding villages for many years to come.
"We are always happy to consider grant applications for projects that improve local communities and we're looking forward to this one making a difference very soon."


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Mountain biking
Mont-Sainte-Anne has a global reputation as THE ultimate destination for mountain bikers. This reputation is built on the fact that the mountain offers a great variety of trails, allowing beginners, families and expert riders alike to experience a memorable riding adventure.
With the MTB Project (app Store and Google Play), you'll always know where your are in the trails! Download Quebec City region map and you'll have all Mont-Sainte-Anne XC trails.
Mountain biking Cross-Country – 110 km
The perfect mix between an endurance trial, an adventure tour and a technical challenge. The netwok is varied and offers low grade technical trails as La Boucle d'or, or others that challenge you with roots, rocks and drops as L'Avenue Royale, Le Sentier du Moulin and more.
Downhill – 25 km
The world-class network of downhill trails suits all needs: from an adrenaline rush (La Coupe du monde trail – The World Cup) to a break in nature and accessible banks (La Vietnam), thrill seekers will be satisfied, for sure! Find renowned technical trails as well as a beginner and family trail.
Equipment required: Downhill bike, full face helmet, goggles and protections.
ALL MOUNTAIN – 9 km
From the summit, all mountain trails are also accessible for double suspension bikes.
Equipment required: Double suspension bike and helmet.
Pump track
Located at the base of the mountain, this track is made out of banked turns and rollers allowing bikers to get speed without even using the pedals. Furthermore, it is considered as an ideal learning track for a biker's first try on a relief terrain. The large pump track is newly built on a permanent structure, allowing an earlier opening!


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I have been lucky enough to have traveled to Hawaii alot. Of the times I have ordered from here I have never been disappointed at all.
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I have been lucky enough to have traveled to Hawaii alot. Of the times I have ordered from here I have never been disappointed at all.
The Hawaiian 'plate lunch' typically includes a meat, 2 scoops of rice and a scoop of Mac salad. The Mac salad here is very good, as is the Hawaiian BBQ chicken. L and L Drive In has been around for a long time and is...More
For visitors to the islands, you may not be aware of this local favorite. Great value for your money, large selections of food and multiple options for how you want your meal. This was always a family favorite so when we returned....gotta stop in! Highly...More
I asked my fiance to take me to a hawaiian fast food and he took me here. The foods are good and very affordable. The portions are great too, I couldn't finish my chicken katsu. This is good place for cheap quick meals.
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Fast good food great value.Bbq chicken, Hamburger steak, Mix plate a teriyaki beef, hamburger steak, and beef stew. Bbq hamburgers,Chicken Katsu, literally everything is good at L&L.
Never had a bad meal at any location. My wife had lau lau and I had the chicken. As always the Mac salad is fantastic and portions are huge. Yea, it's fast food but I'll go there first before anywhere else.
Definitely not as good as it used to be I used to be here all the time but now, not so much, but nobody and mean nobody has better mac salad than them
We dined at several L & L restaurants. The meat melted in our mouths every time. The marinades they used were very "moorish" and the meals were very affordable. Service in each was quick.
The food is very good quality and the lunches are huge. You can get a full meal for $8. The service is fast and they are really respectable.


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Philosophy of Human Nature by: BSN - 1F Group 1 Blaise B. Nieve Presented by: Classical Greek Antiquity The Philophies of Plato & Aristotle San Pedro Co lege Prelude Reality
(n.) As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein What is Reality? Thank you for listening! :) That's plain of a definition, eh? So, what's REALITY for you then? Is it something that depends on what one believes as real? Or is it something that depends on what others also believe as real? These are questions that we shall try to pursue as we attempt to understand the philosophical interpretations on the meaning of human nature in: Enjoy! :) Objectives Plato Aristotle At the end of our report, you, our BELOVED classmates *wink* ( ;) ) are expected to: I. Understand Plato & Aristotle's concept of reality; II. Differentiate Plato's view of the human body from his theory of the soul; III. See the link between Plato's metaphysics & his idea of the nature of human person; IV. Explain the four causes by Aristotle; V. Differentiate Aristotle and Plato's understanding of human person; VI. Understand what Plato's Allegory of the Cave meant Activity Time! :) Welcome to
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Plato & Aristotle Synthesis :) I am Plato... Midwifery Method... a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens... ...Socrates assisted me to give birth to new ideas... Reality... ...for me is something immutable... it does not change... 2 worlds exist... ...the world of PERMANENCE & the world of TRANSITION... Change means mutation... ...In my period, there were political turmoil, instability, and uncertainty... ...the uncertainty that caused the authority's narrow conception of justice... ...the uncertainty that caused the demise of my teacher, Socrates... *sigh* :( For me... Human body is of low regard... A coffin of the soul... It traps & delimits... No one will feel free & alive... Reminder of a common fate... Should we entrust our ideals of reality to that which rots? I am hoping... That man will direct his being towards perfection... That every man will detach from the realm of senses... That man will take the route to freedom & liberation... It is POSSIBLE... If you want to experience the real... Nourish your mind... Contemplate on the world of forms... In that way, you can see through the shadows which the world of senses casts... ;) Please read my Allegory Of The Cave... I am Aristotle... My writings cover... Reality... For me... a Greek philosopher, a scientist-empiricist, a student of Plato and teacher of Alexander the Great... Many subjects, including physics, metaphysics, poetry, theater, music, logic, rhetoric, linguistics, politics, government, ethics, biology, and zoology... For me starts on the realm of senses... It begins from exploring the actual relations and entities in this concrete world... A person can only know and understand something in the world if thinking is engaged in inductive and deductive reasoning... I believe in... :: The 4 Causes :: Material | Efficient | Formal | Final Rationality of Human Nature :) And these lead to... Now, what's reality for you then? Oops... Wait... It's Assessment Time! :) Allegory Of The Cave God bless you! :) 4 Causes in an example... We're rational! Yey! :)
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Minneapolis Vacation Ideas: Minneapolis, MN - Home of the Mall of America & Much More!
A great place for your next family vacation!
Whether you're looking for ideas on where to take your next family vacation, or you'd like some tips on where to spend time on your already planned trip to Minnesota, you've come to the right place!
Minnesota, or the "Land of the 10,000 Lakes", is a fantastic destination for family traveling. When you get to Minnesota, you'll hear all about the phrase "Minnesota-nice" which holds true after you meet some locals. Their charm and hospitality is truly wonderful; they take pride in their sense of community.
Sunny skies? Doesn't matter! You can plan every last detail of your trip with the exception of weather conditions. Unfortunately, some vacations can be ruined or greatly affected because of bad weather; not true with Minnesota! Most of the popular family destinations are inside. Don't worry though; lighting, pumped-in fresh air and enormous windowed ceilings will trick you into thinking that you're outside.
This article highlights some of the most popular family activities to try out while you're in Minnesota.
Mall of America
Think the Mall of America is just a bunch of shops (500+)? Think again! Mall of America is also home to a huge indoor Amusement Park that will give your family tons of thrills, rain or shine.
You can spend days in the Mall of America. Plan on spending at least two days alone in their indoor amusement park. Your kids will think it's cool to tell their friends back home that they got to ride on an indoor rollercoaster! Kids favorite part of the indoor themepark is Nickelodeon Universe. It boasts themed rides such as Dora the Explorer for the little ones and Spongebob Square Pants for everyone else.
There is also an indoor aquarium to visit as well as a mini-golf course and a flight simulator.
Rain or shine, you can spend days inside the Mall of America.
Minnesota State Fair
"The Great Minnesota Get-Together", or the Minnesota State Fair, is one of the most beloved activities that this state participates in. You have plenty of time to experience it, as it runs for 12 weeks through August and September. It boasted over 1.5 million visitors last year, alone.
You can easily spend 2-3 days at the fair enjoying all the agricultural visits as well as the many carnival rides.
A fun fact about the Minnesota State Fair is that they are famous for serving over 50+ foods "on a stick." Everything you can imagine! Fried twinkies, pickles, cheesecake, cheese curds, you name it, and it's there. Also make sure to try out their famous Sarsaparilla Floats (sarsaparilla soda and frozen custard)
Radisson Hotel Bloomington and the Waterpark of America
Radisson Hotel Bloomington is one of the top family hotels in the country. Why? They have a HUGE indoor 5,800 square feet water park. Your kids won't believe it. It is gigantic. The park is so huge that an estimated 300,000 gallons of water are used to fill the reservoirs and keep the water flowing. The Radisson Hotel Bloomington is also right across the road from the Mall of America; you can see it from the hotel's parking lot. Stay at this hotel and take advantage of the discounted Waterpark of America family-stay rates. The lobby has a fun modern rustic feel to it and the hotel also has two restaurants, the Split Rock Grille and the Sleepy Eye cafe.
Further Reading
- 5 Places to Visit in Minnesota
Minnesota is known as the Land of 10,000 lakes and notorious for their bitter cold winters. However, in the summer it is beautiful. There are many places see and encounter across the state. Being outdoors and...
- 10 Awesome Things About Minnesota Besides Accents An...
As a Minnesota native who now lives in Tennessee, there a great many things I miss about home. Number 1 Awesome Thing about Minnesota: On a bitter cold night, with temperatures of -40F, it is the brave...


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My first visit to Montgomery was early summer of 2011 after meeting several Montgomerians while at the Front Porch Revival in Gadsden, AL. I heard several compelling stories about the current status and bright future of Montgomery, but one thing they all said,
"It's all happening in #MGM"
Amidst Dixie Cups full of Truckstop Honey and smelling like pig smoke and grease, I took those conversations in stride and listened carefully. A year later I get a call from an enthusiastic guy wanting to open a brewery and looking for a chef. I figured I would humor him, enjoy a free beer and dinner, and politely decline. What I thought was a simple dinner turned into a tour of the downtown farm, the Alley, the stadium, walking and talking the whole time, and a brief meeting with the Mayor, (seriously….ok then!) The whole time, more and more people joined our walk and they were all so stoked about the future of Montgomery and how I should totally be a part of it. "Montgomery is trying to come alive, it's new, it's exciting, won't you join us? Come build something!!"
The whole drive back to Auburn I was thinking to myself, "Dude, you're seriously considering working in Montgomery, you live, love and bleed Auburn, what in the heck is wrong with you"
I couldn't stop thinking about the farm, the plans, the people, and the excitement. I hadn't finished pulling into my driveway when I made the call and took the job… It's been crazy times since.
I left the Brewery at the behest of a great friend, "Hey mi hermano, I'm bouncing, riding out to ATL, you need to come check out my restaurant, it's around the corner from you, I think it was made for you, you'll love it!! You don't really want to cook burgers---they're great bro, but seriously"
One meeting, a couple of cups of coffee and great conversation with amazing and genuine folks, I was hooked, I took the job. One thing was clear, the people of Montgomery really believe in this quaint city, from the small business owner, to the local residents, to the big time investors. I was now the new Executive Chef of Central Restaurant. I was excited and hopeful with plans upon plans for what this restaurant could be. I never in a million years would have expected everything that followed.
Montgomery, you have been an amazing city, full of warm welcomes, so much love and appreciation. I was allowed to create something I dreamed of, to accomplish goals and to develop my style.
This city has a lot of history behind it, so much potential, so many people rooting for and pushing for change and for a transformation and evolution. I am humbled, proud, and honored to have played a small part in it. It is my sincere wish that in my too short a time here, I have managed to leave a mark and an impression on you. You all have left an indelible mark on me. I thank you for everything, pushing me to be better, supporting me the entire time, and believing in me.
I am proud to leave this wonderful place in the hands of several highly accomplished and talented chefs!
Executive Chef Randal "Tex" Gresham, Jr.
My man has crazy mad skills and will be absolutely killer in this role. Montgomery, you couldn't ask for better.
Banquet Chef Kareem Wade
The quiet and dedicated force behind our events, banquets and all special functions, the man never stops and it's absolutely wonderful to have around.
Pastry Chef Maggie Gibbs
Newest to the team, but already crushing the Montgomery pastry scene with her talent and amazing sweets. I am glad she joined our team and I had a chance to work alongside her.
Chef De Partie Antwaun Robinson and now Chef De Partie Dustin Whitfield
The pride of any chef is the ability to grow and foster talent, and these 2 junior chefs have worked their tails off to earn a spot and have been a tremendous source of pride.
To Mayor Todd Strange, the Montgomery Chamber of Commerce and the Alabama Tourism Department:
Thank you for supporting me and Central. Your unwavering commitment to making Montgomery the new emerging food scene has helped make Central a success tremendously. Please know I have left the restaurant in great hands and I hope you build as great of a relationship with the new "dream team" as you did with me.
Finally to the Kyser family:
You couldn't ask to work for better, more gracious, humble, supporting and loving people. You will always occupy a huge piece of my heart. You trusted me, without question, to take over Central's culinary direction and for that, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Montgomery, I'll miss you, the people, and the city. I hope I left it better than I found it and made you all proud.
Sooooo… "Leaves are falling all around, it's time I was on my way, thanks to you, I'm much obliged for such a pleasant stay, but now it's time for me to go, the autumn moon lights my way…." Ramble on, Led Zeppelin
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Calling out to vendors for the Magnolia Library Art Show
The Magnolia Art Show is turning 40! We are hoping you will be joining us again this year for the 40th annual Magnolia Art Show. Registration is easy on eventBrite.com. Here is the link:
The Magnolia Library and Community Center's 40th Annual Art Show will be held on the weekend of July 14th-16th, 2017. The event takes place at 1 Lexington Ave. in the Magnolia section of Gloucester, MA. All proceeds benefit the non-profit Magnolia Library and Community Center and participating artists.
Works from artists throughout the North Shore will be on display and for sale. Unframed bin work will also be available for sale. This event is professionally judged, and visitors to the show vote for a people's choice award.
This well-attended event starts with a champagne reception (all welcome) on Friday July 14th 7:00-9:00 p.m. The show continues on Saturday & Sunday, July 15 & 16 from 10:00 am to 4:00 pm. This event is open to the public and free to attend. All artwork is for sale.
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Skip to comments.DOING THE RESEARCH THE NEW YORK TIMES WON'T DO [Ann Coulter Exposes Gun Control Fraud]
Posted on 01/11/2013 2:44:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
In Sunday's New York Times, Elisabeth Rosenthal claimed, as the title of her article put it, "More Guns = More Killing." She based this on evidence that would never be permitted in any other context at the Times: (1) anecdotal observations; and (2) bald assertions of an activist, blandly repeated with absolutely no independent fact-checking by the Times.
There is an academic, peer-reviewed, long-term study of the effect of various public policies on public, multiple shootings in all 50 states over a 20-year period...It concluded that the only policy to reduce the incidence of, and casualties from, mass shootings are concealed-carry laws. The Times will never mention this study.
Instead, Rosenthal's column proclaimed that armed guards do not reduce crime because: "I recently visited some Latin American countries ... where guards with guns grace every office lobby, storefront, ATM, restaurant and gas station. It has not made those countries safer or saner."
So there you have it: The cock crowed, then the sun came up. Therefore, the cock's crowing caused the sun to come up. Rosenthal went to Harvard Medical School.
Here's a tip: High-crime areas are often bristling with bulletproof glass, heavy-duty locks, gated windows and armed guards. The bulletproof glass doesn't cause the crime; it's a response to crime. On Rosenthal's logic, hospitals kill people because more people die in hospitals than outside of them...
Rosenthal also produces a demonstrably false statistic about Australia's gun laws...
"After a gruesome mass murder in 1996 provoked public outrage, Australia enacted stricter gun laws, including a 28-day waiting period before purchase and a ban on semiautomatic weapons. ... Since, rates of both homicide and suicide have dropped 50 percent ...," said Ms. Peters, who lobbied for the legislation."
(Excerpt) Read more at anncoulter.com ...
It is much more akin to a propaganda sheet produced by a communist government.
It should be given the same credibility.
In 1996 the US murder rate was 7.4/100k. In 2011 it was 4.8. A decline of 35% during a period when many states passed concealed carry laws and the number of guns in the country increased significantly.
criminals have adapted. Now they stab you to death instead of shooting you. That was the net effect of their gun ban homicides.
Meanwhile Assaults have increased by a rate of 5% a year every year since the 1997 gun ban.
Assaults from 1995 to 2007 (number per month)
The trend in assaults shows an average growth of five percent each year from 1995 to 2007, four times the annual growth of the Australian population in the same period
And sexual assaults, that meas rape for the uninitiated, have increased by 50% since the gun ban.
Sexual assault victims from 1995 to 2007 (number per month)
This graph illustrates that an unarmed woman is much easier to rape than a well armed woman.
We need to do better as conservatives to talk to them in their language. They want to feel more. Loving, generous, caring, smarter, open minded, superior in general. They "validate" emotional response over intellectual evidence. We need to produce information that tugs the heart strings more!
For the 2nd amendment debate we need to portray (NOT report, Portray) commercials "based on a true story" of events where people saved themselves from crime with their guns. For abortion, we need to show the joys of holding babies; both moms and dads versus the loneliness of small coffins. For welfare reform we need to show the pride of accomplishment of work vs. the emptiness of watching TV all day.
I'm not a marketing guy. We conservatives will not win on facts alone!
If you Leftists and liberals come to confiscate Americans' guns, armed Americans will kill you.
The reason liberals do not trust facts is because they are liars and facts have no meaning. The only reality they have is their own and they can only trust their feelings.
The way the liberals are changing society is through cultural means (media). "Because you can't learn through personal experience and discovery alone all you need to know, things are set up so you can simply believe what others tell you. You know some things thru tradition, others from "experts." [quote from sociology research design text]
The sociology and psychology "experts" are liberal and know how to get the sheep to do what they want. It's in all the text books. Funny thing is, the psych majors don't have the brains to realize that the motivation has not been based on facts, but on emotional responses. They are still global warmists and abortionists.
Truer words were never spoken.
The 2012 presidential election is living proof of that.
On facts and performance alone, Hussein should have been laughed out of office.
"..won't do"?
The New York Times CANT do. They rely
on plagiarism and whatever the DNC orders them
to print.
Liberal logic: A 16 year old has the right to kill her unborn baby, but I can't defend my family with a 30 round magazine.
Liberal logic: It is not a crime for a 21 year old to kill her unborn baby, but if someone murders that same pregnant 21 year old, the liberals want the murderer charged with two counts of murder. Figure that one out!
These days, anecdotal observations and bald assertions with no independent verification are the norm for "journalists." If done effectively, promotions, and possibly a Pulitzer prize, are the rewards.
This is all fine and well - and the NY Slimes needs to be repeatedly called out for its blatantly false and/or misleading stories and editorials.
The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution was not passed to enable people to defend themselves against run of the mill street criminals. That's a side benefit, to be sure, and is without question the motivation for a lot of people to buy guns and get training, but it is not the main reason. The reason the 2nd Amendment was passed was so that the militia (i.e. the people) would have the means to defend this country against invaders (foreign enemies) or a potential tyrant (a domestic enemy). The mere fact of there being so many firearms spread throughout the nation has a huge deterrent effect against both types of enemies, in the same way the a huge nuclear arsenal had a deterrent effect on the ambitions of the Soviet Union during the Cold War - i.e. the potential results of setting off that tripwire will be so horrible that there could be no victory in either case.
This fight is about nothing more and nothing less than our right to remain free and undominated by our own government. Anything else - crime prevention, hunting, matches of one kind or another, collecting - are of minor consequence in comparison.
The whole idea of using crime or hunting as the reason for the 2nd Amendment is that of the gun-grabbers, because that's how they can insert the idea of "reasonable gun control" into the debate. With regard to preventing tyranny, reasonableness is not an issue. As George Washington stated: "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
You only get one chance to prevent a tyranny. Once you lose, there are no "do-overs." By the nature of the thing, tyrannies brook no opposition...as shown already by Obama and crew, who are desperately trying to take away the most effective means of resistance to tyranny: modern, box-magazine fed, semi-auto rifles.
Colter should concentrate her considerable ire and intellect on this issue - she'd have more impact on the debate.
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If you missed this week's episode, Buddy TV has their recap up.
And here's another one from Zap2it.
Stylista Fanatic weighs in with their version of the story.
As does Television Without Pity.
The News Observer's TV blog offers another retelling of the tale.
And Gawker is on crack.
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This book examines child protection issues in relation to babies and young children at risk of abuse. Based on a study which followed babies until they were 3 years old, it examines how safeguarding decisions are made and how they impact upon the lives of the children, including their development. It provides key messages for policy and practice.
Publisher: Jessica Kingsley Publishers (February 15, 2012)
Collection: Safeguarding Children Across Services
Format: EPUB
Page count: 240 pages
Protection: DRM
Language: English


text: So I just ordered this drumset, I got to toy around with it in Guitar Center the other day, and it has the feel and sounds of a set with 3-4 times the price. I got it on Amazon for $800 shipped, and the MSRP is $1100. Can't wait to play it! Alesis DM10 Studio Kit


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The top card I made for a friend birthday recently but these cards
are so simple I made another and am likely to make a few more in the near future. I saw this idea whilst blog hopping and thought what a great way of using DSP & the butterfly punch – thank you to the person who gave me the idea!!
I've given a side view as well they had rhinestones added to them but for some reason I've forgot to take final pictures of them both.
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JUDGMENT consistent with 17 Order, this case is dismissed. It is certified, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1915(a)(3), that an in forma pauperis appeal would not be taken in good faith. Signed by Judge James M. Moody Jr. on 6/1/2016. (jak)
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RP | Eduardo Pogorelsky (from Pleiadian Stars Cosmic Gate Facebook Group)
As promised earlier I said I would give the location of the 24 sites and [those] who control these centers.
24 United Intruder Resistance (UIR) Nibiruian Crystal Temple Bases (underground or underwater Illuminati Main Templar Control Bases)
There are many thousands of other UIR hidden bases positioned throughout the globe. These 24 are the Primary bases, located at the ancient Nibiruian Crystal Temple Pylon Crystal sites, through which the Planetary Templar and other bases are controlled. Both UIR and Guardian subterranean bases are protected by UHF (Ultra High Frequency) cloaking fields that are currently impermeable to present means of Earthly technological detection.
Please also note that many of the names mentioned below do not necessarily reflect the position of their entire race. In many cases it is only a rebel faction of the race which have embraced a digressive stance in their evolution and are now in service to self.
CB = Central Control Bases that direct operations of other Bases.
MIB = "Men in Black" Necromiton-human hybrid
SG = Star Gate
APIN = Atlantian Pylon Interface Network
1. Kauai Hawaii, Cue site-12
Necromitron-Andromie-Nephilim, Zephilim-Rigelion Zeta, Alpha-Omega Centaurians.
2. Vale of Pewsey S. England, SG-11
Pleiadian Samjaes-Luciferian Annunaki
3. Abadan Iran SG-10
4. Pakistan CB
Omicron-Drakonian, Marduke Dramin Annunaki and Necromiton-Andromie Nephilim
5. Bermuda Island SG-3
Omicron-Drakonian and Zephelium-Rigelian-Zeta
6. Serasota Florida SG-2 (the planets Gru-Al main Star Gate)
Thoth-Enki-Zephelium Annunaki and Necromiton-Andromie Nibiruian Nephilim
7. Machu Picchu Peru SG-5
Pleiadian Samjaes-Luciferian Annunaki
8. Portugal CB
Omicron-Drakonian, Necromiton-Andromie MIB and Odedicron-Reptilian
9. Lake Titicaca Peru SG-7
Omicron-Drakonian, Rigelian Zeta, and Pleiadian Samjaes-Luciferian Annunaki
10. Giza Egypt SG-4
11. Haley South Pole SG-1
Necromiton-Andromie MIB. Drakonian Dracos, Omicron-Drakonian, Rigelian Zeta
12. Mauritania W Africa CB
Omicron-Drakonian, Necromiton-Andromie MIB, Rigelian Zeta, Thoth-Enki-Zephelium Annunaki
13. Paxos Island Greece Cue site 7
Necromiton-Andromie MIB, Alpha-Omega Centaurians, Pleiadian Samjaes-Luciferian Annunaki
14.Aguascalientes Mexico Cue site -4
Thoth-Enki-Zephelium Annunaki, Rigelian Zeta, and Jehovian-Annunaki
15. Cyprus Island Cue site-1
Omicron-Drakonian, Necromiton-Andromie MIB
16. Easter Island Cue site-2
Pleiadian Samjaes-Luciferian Annunaki, and Nibiruian Thoth-Enki-Zephelium Annunaki, Enlil- Odedicron-Annunaki
17. Vatican City Rome Cue site-5
Drakonian-Dracos, Necromiton-Andromie MIB
18. Johannesburg S. Africa Cue site-3
Omicron-Drakonian, Marduke-Dramin-Annunaki
19. Brazil CB
Marduke-Lucifarian-Annunaki Alpha Centauri, Enlil- Odedicron-Annunaki Nibiru, Pleiadian Samjaes-Luciferian Annunaki
20. Lop Nor Tibet Cue site-8
Jehovian-Annunaki, Galactic Federation, Ashtar Command, Necromiton-Andromie Nephilim (Dove APIN central broadcast control)
21. Xian China Cue site-10
Omicron-Drakonian, Necromiton-Andromie MIB
22. Hamandan Iran CB
23. Al Basrah Iraq Cue site-10
Drakonian-Dracos, Omicron-Drakonian, Necromiton-Andromie MIB
24. Bosnia CB
Drakonian-Dracos, Necromiton-Andromie MIB and Nephilim, Marduke-Dramin-Annunaki, Alpha-Omega Centaurians (False "Archangel Michael" broadcast central headquarters).


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News » UK » NG Bailey enters energy advice market » published 16 Oct 2012
NG Bailey enters energy advice market
Building services contractor NG Bailey has signed a deal with US company Elutions to launch its energy cost reduction service in the UK.
Elutions has developed technology that it claims helps companies reduce their energy usage. Branded as Rare Energy, it identifies a company's energy usage across its existing assets, either in a single location or across the enterprise. It then produces a report detailing the energy being consumed, before analysing and altering the usage to optimise it.
NG Bailey chief executive David Hurcomb said: "Rare Energy is a risk free investment. This ground-breaking technology has the ability to reduce a company's energy usage by as much as 30%. In fact, we are so confident about the offering, we guarantee that a customer will always see, at the very least, a pay back to their investment."
Elutions chief operating officer Chris Voss added: "This is proven technology which has been adopted by many customers in the US and Europe. It is something we are very proud to now offer in the UK – through our partnership with NG Bailey and the Rare Energy solution. It's exciting for us, for NG Bailey, but most of all for potential customers."
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"Look Ian, she's lying in my lap. She NEVER does that!" Yes, Carla, I was "resting" in your lap. Don't get used to it. I'm not a lap cat. People are not beds. I stand on people. I walk across people. It's just that it was gonna be a long day of football, and you were in my seat.
I was most interested in the NFC championship, but I just had to watch the Chargers game beforehand. See, I love Ladainian Tomlinson. He has the best dimples in the NFL. And of course he's a superb running back. But he also seems like a really nice kid. He loves his mama. He performs numerous acts of charity in the community. I think he might be Michael Vick's (for lack of a better word) doppelganger. Ladainian is either really genuinely sweet, or he has a crackjack PR agent, unlike Vick, who doesn't even have a stylist. If he did, he'd have nixed the facial hair and adopted at least a neutral expression on his way in and out of the courtroom. He looked really mean. He looked like a guy who not only kills dogs, but then hunts down their parents and grandparents and offs them too.
But I digress. The Chargers lost, predictably, to the superhuman Patriots (I hope it won't constitute a spoiler to inform you that Tom Brady is a robot). I had to keep watching, even after Ladainian was sidelined after only three plays. You never know, New England, cybernetically empowered as they are, could lose. And Paula Abdul could have a moment of lucidity. Keep hope alive, people!
Like lemmings, the Green Bay Packers followed San Diego over the the precipitous cliffs of Not-Going-to-the-Superbowl Mountain. But, as always, the Fox pregame show didn't disappoint, thanks to the perennial asses pictured above. The Spice Boys kicked off the show by talking about the weather. To wit, it was -1 degrees F at Lambeau Field with a wind chill of 20 below.
"What happens in cold weather is things shrink," says Terry Bradshaw, giving a shoulder-butt to Curt Menefee. "He usually wears a 58 inch jacket but today he's wearing a 48."Har, har.
Then Howie Long says:
"If you leave your dog outside for three hours in this kind of weather, they will lock you up for cruelty to animals."(What a douchbag. Maybe if Howie had given counsel to Michael Vick years ago, things would have turned out differently for him: "Now Mike, if it's Arctic cold outside, your dog can survive without shelter for two hours and 59 minutes, tops. Sixty seconds longer, and you're up the river. Oh, and don't strangle, shoot or drown them.")
Then Jimmy Johnson holds up a glass that he's just filled with water.
"Let's see how long it takes before it freezes!(Oooooo. A magic trick. I'm rapt.)
The segment ends with everyone teasing Curt about his not wearing a hat.
Here's the way I think the championship-eve IM'ing played out on the Fox NFL Sunday's AOL Buddy List.
Howie:For the record, by the time they went to the first station break, Curt had his scarf wrapped around his jughead like a Russian peasant lady.
OK guys, it's going 2 B be cold 2morrow. Let's B sure we don't show up in the same hats.
And before anyone has a chance to type anything, he writes:
I call dibs on the trooper-trapper hat. No one else on the panel but me could rock one like Frances McDormand.
Then Jimmy screams:
Scrambling for traction, and to ensure that no one in the entire stadium will upstage him, Terry types:
I'm wearing a golf hat. On top of a doo-rag. Rock that, Howie.
To which Curt, left with a choice of a crocheted knit cap or wizard hat, replies:
Screw it. I'm going cranial-commando!
I think it's about time the NFL had a fashion critic. I'd like to throw my fedora into the ring. I could be the sportsworld's equivalent of those chicks over at GoFugYourself.com.
By the way, guess who ended up with the knit cap?
Pam Oliver.


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Perhaps a different way to think about the two-stage upgrade is to decouple data definition from the database and the code?

Instead of using the record definition in both the persistence as well as the code, you pass the data through a transformation function. That way in the database you have

-record(item2, {name, value, ...}).

But in the code, you have

-record(item1, {name, ...}).

In between, you have

load(DB) ->
 Tuple = read_from_database_structure(),
 convert_from_item2_to_item1(Tuple).

Thus - you can first upgrade your db (care is needed to deal with locking, etc) in a script, and once that's done, you can upgrade code, which is in general a faster operation. Minimize dependencies IMO is effective to isolate and deal with change.

Cheers,

On 10/30/07, David Mercer <email@example.com> wrote:
 My understanding of how a two-stage upgrade would work follows.

Prior to the upgrade, we have the following record:

> -record(item1,
> { name
> }).

In Stage 1 of the upgrade, support for the following record structure is
added, but the data is not itself updated:

> -record(item2,
> { item
> , value
> , cost_basis
> , gl_class
> }).

Our Stage 1 upgrade code must be written to support both item1's and
item2's, but it does not upgrade the data structures yet. Only once all
3,000 nodes of our system have been upgraded to Stage 1 can we initiate
Stage 2: upgrade all our 'item1' data structures to 'item2'. Optionally, we
can also purge all references to the 'item1' structure.

This approach seems problematic for the following reasons: (1) the time and
administrative overhead required to release a new version is doubled; (2)
you may run into the situation in which the stages take so long to complete
that we have multiple upgrades happening across the system at once; (3) code
has to be rewritten every release if it handles items (to accept both
'item1' and 'item2' structures), even if it is not directly affected by the
change.

For example, take the following scenario:

A new release is ordered which requires a change to the item record. All
the code that deals with items (which is almost all of it) is duplicated and
changed to allow it to work with both the old item structure and the new.
When this is completed, a Stage 1 upgrade is ordered worldwide. Frankfurt
and Singapore complete their Stage 1 upgrade quickly, but unfortunately our
Los Angeles operation is caught up in a legal requirement requiring them to
notify a particular client two weeks in advance of any system update.
Meanwhile, our data center in Maputo, Mozambique has been having unspecified
"problems" upgrading that is putting the whole worldwide release of these
new features on hold. Even after the two-week North American hold is
lifted, Maputo still has not upgraded to Stage 1.

Meanwhile, while waiting to hear back from Maputo (which continues to
demur), Software has released a new version with yet a different version of
the item record. Now Frankfurt and Singapore have code running that works
with all three formats, Los Angeles has two, and Maputo is still on its
first, and *still* no new functionality has been released.

Is this the best we can do?

Cheers,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Hinde [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.com]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 14:25
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Cc:  firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: Re: [erlang-questions] beginner: Updating Data Structures

Hi,

Perhaps you could consider a two stage upgrade. First upgrade all
software to a version that understands the new record as well as the
old (dynamically dispatching/converting on record size). Then once
that is done invoke the command to tell nodes to start using the new
record (perhaps also doing a few table transforms along the way).

It can sometimes help to use the fact that records are also tagged
tuples. Kind of ugly in the code, but could be isolated to a small
number of places.

Another option we have with some success is to have a single extension
field in the record that holds a tagged tuple list. It is
extraordinary how much such a structure can be abused ;-)

Sean

On 29 Oct 2007, at 17:26, David Mercer wrote:

> While an Erlang system has the ability to update its program on the
> fly, updating data structures on the fly seems a bit more
> difficult. Unless you can upgrade all nodes simultaneously, some
> nodes will be expecting the old data structure while others then
> new. My question therefore, is how to structure my data? Is there
> an approach that I am missing that is both upgrade-friendly and ETS/
> Mnesia-compatible? Please see the following paragraphs for my
> analysis so far.
>
> Suppose we are writing an inventory control application. We decide
> to create a record to contain our information about items in our
> inventory. Not much to say about items, really, so we're just going
> to hold the item's name in a record. If something else ever needs
> to be tracked regarding these items, we can always upgrade our data,
> right?
>
> -record(item,
> { name
> }).
>
> So we roll out our new inventory system to 3,000 nodes in our 25
> warehouses in 6 different countries, and everything works
> swimmingly. For a while.
>
> However, some time later, our accounting department decides we need
> a way to value our inventory, and each item should have a value
> associated with it. That way, we can calculate inventory value
> simply by multiplying value by quantity at each location.
> Unfortunately, we cannot now use our record structure. What to do?
>
> Well, naďvely, we decide to just modify our item record.
>
> -record(item,
> { name
> , value
> }).
>
> This new record structure is incompatible with the old item record
> structure, so we will also write some code that upgrades our items
> in the system to the new structure when we upgrade the system.
> Unfortunately, unless our entire worldwide operation is upgraded all
> at once, any process using the old structure will crash when it
> encounters a new-style item, and vice versa. Simultaneous upgrading
> all 3,000 nodes is impractical, so we'll have to rethink our
 > original decision.
>
> We could have created the original record structure with expansion
> slots available for future use.
>
> -record(item,
> { name
> , 'X1'
> , 'X2'
> , 'X3'
> }).
>
> Now when Accounting wants us to add the value of the item to the
> item record, we simply redefine one of the expansion slots.
>
> -record(item,
> { name
> , value
> , 'X2'
> , 'X3'
> }).
>
> This will not crash any process, since the size of resulting tuple
> is still the same. Unfortunately, we might run out of expansion
> slots if we don't allocate enough of them. The example runs out of
> slots once Accounting also gets their cost-basis and GL-class
 > elements added, leaving us in the same boat as before. We simply
> delayed the inevitable. We might get bright and allocate the new
> slots hierarchically by department, for instance, so Accounting gets
> only one slot for all of its information, and we define a new record
> for the information in that slot.
>
> -record(item,
> { name
> , acctg
> , 'X2'
> , 'X3'
> }).
> -record(acctg_item,
> { value
> , cost_basis
> , gl_class
> , 'X1'
> , 'X2'
> , 'X3'
> }).
>
> However, this approach once again only delays the inevitable. When
> Inventory Control and Manufacturing take up the other two expansion
> slots, there is no room for Engineering's data. Plus, we have
> multiplied this problem, since it occurs for each of our subrecords,
> which can also run out of expansion slots.
>
> Another alternative might be to have only one expansion slot, which
> is filled in by the next version of the item record.
>
> -record(item,
> { name
> , v2
> }).
> -record(item_v2,
> { value
> , cost_basis
> , gl_class
> , v3
> }).
>
> Now when we have more elements to add, we create an item_v3 record
> (with a v4 element to accommodate future expansion), and so on. The
> problems with this, however, are that programmers need to know which
> version of the record a certain data element is, and that by the
> time we go through a few score enhancements and we're up to version
> 68, it becomes quite cumbersome, and is little better than had we
> used a linked list.
>
> In fact, a linked list may well be better. Instead of writing
> functions with the record syntax, we can use lists.
>
> item_value([item, _Name, Value | _])
 > ->
> Value
> .
>
> To retrieve the value, we only need to know its position in the
> list. This approach suffers from a couple of problems: (1) You need
> to know the position of each element in the list; (2) This list will
> be repeated quite frequently, so when you have 300 attributes your
> code will be brittle, repetitive, and difficult to maintain.
>
> Perhaps an alternative approach is to define each record version
> independently, instead of additively as we tried earlier.
>
> -record(item1,
> { name
> }).
 > -record(item2,
> { item
> , value
> , cost_basis
> , gl_class
> }).
>
> Now in our code, we have versions of each function matching on the
 > record structure, and a function that handles the no-match case (in
> case you're running v2 code when you receive a v3 record). Once
> again, however, we run into a couple of obstacles: (1) We must
> implement a different version of each function for each version of
> the record (this will get tiresome around version 68); (2) new
> versions are not backward compatible: a node running a previous
> version of the code will not recognize future-versioned data
> structures, even though the only fields it needs are those from its
> own version.
>
> Let's borrow a page from object-oriented design principles. Why not
> let the item provide its own methods for data access through
> functions contained on the structure. We define a record "class"
> which has two slots: one for the methods, and one for the data. By
> doing this, items carry around their own methods and so it doesn't
> really matter what version of an item something is, so long as the
> item knows how to use its own data. First we define some
> infrastructure.
>
> -module(class).
> -export([invoke/3]).
> -record(class,
> { methods
> , data
> }).
> invoke(Method_ID, Object = #class{methods = Methods}, Args)
> ->
> Method = Methods(Method_ID),
> Method(Object, Args)
> .
>
> To call a method on an object, syntax is simply "invoke(Method_ID,
> Object, Args)", such as
>
> X = item:new ("X"), % Create a new item "X"
> X_Name = class:invoke(get_name, X, []), % Returns "X"
> Y = class:invoke(set_name, X, ["Y"]). % Changes item name
>
> This is great for encapsulation! The implementation is
> straightforward.
>
> -module(item).
> -export([new/1]).
> -include("class.hrl").
> -record(item,
> { name
> }).
>
> new(Name)
> ->
> #class{ methods = fun(get_name) -> fun get_name/2
> ; (set_name) -> fun set_name/2
> end
> , data = #item{ name = Name }
> }
 > .
>
> get_name(#class{data = #item{name = Name}}, _)
> ->
> Name
> .
>
> set_name(Object = #class{data = Item}, [Name])
 > ->
> Object#class{data = Item#item{name = Name}}
> .
>
> Alas, there is a fly in this ointment, too. While it would appear
> that the method functions are being carried around along with the
> data (in fact, the item tuple is "{class,#Fun<item.0.96410792>,
> {item,"X"}}"), those functions are really not carried around from
> node to node. Instead, Erlang only carries around references to the
> functions. This means if this item shows up on a node where the
> function does not exist, an error will occur when a method is invoked.
>
> The fact that you cannot safely sling functions around with your
> data from node to node indicates that perhaps we need a very simple
> interface with functions that will never change. Maybe instead of
> using records at all, we can use basic OTP library functions to
> associate item properties with their values. Sounds kind of like
> what proplists were designed for.
>
> X = [{name, "X"}], % Create a new item "X"
> X_Name = proplists:get_value(name, X), % Returns "X"
> Y = [{name, "Y"} | proplists:delete(name, X1)]. % Changes item name
>
> A similar effect can be had with dicts, with the decision probably
> to be made based on performance. (Not only that, but the decision
> can be made dynamically at run-time, since there are functions for
> converting between the two.)
>
> X = dict:from_list([{name, "X"}]), % Create a new item "X"
> X_Name = dict:fetch(name, X), % Returns "X"
> Y = dict:store(name, "Y", X). % Changes item name
>
> This approach has the advantage of being completely backward-
> compatible with respect to my code-base. Should a later version of
> our inventory application add a property, it will not change the
> operation of any previous version. Once again, however, there are
> problems with this approach: (1) property values cannot be used for
> matching in function definitions; (2) these structures are not
> easily indexed: ETS and Mnesia require record data types. While
> Disadvantage 1 might be easily managed by performing lookups and
 > conditionals within the function, Disadvantage 2 is probably
> intractable.
>
> To repeat my question, gentle readers, how ought I structure my
> data? Is there an approach that I am missing that is both upgrade-
> friendly and ETS/Mnesia-compatible?
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
>
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Room at the Top (co-written with Jane Davitt)
Austin and Jay want a dom in their lives, but not a third person in their bed. When their dom moves away,
replacing him turns out to be trickier than theyd thought and the two of them are getting desperate. Enter Liam,
a friend of their former dom, deliciously sexy and stern, ready to spank them into shape -- and he's straight.
Its all going so well, but can Liam separate his growing attraction to his two young subs from what they do during their sessions? And
can Austin and Jay handle the discovery that Liam means more to them than he was ever supposed to?
With Austins younger sister April ready to do anything she can to make life difficult for the three men, is it going to be possible
for Austin and Jay to prove to Liam that theres room in their life -- and their bed -- for him?
Austin Fisher was on his knees.
The carpet beneath him was thin and roughprobably easy to clean, though, which might be why it had been chosen. Another thirty minutes and he'd have rug burn, because no matter how hard he tried to stay absolutely still, it was impossible. He could feel colder air seeping through the wall behind him; it made the sheen of sweat on his bare, aching ass more noticeable, even with the majority of his attention focused on his boyfriend, Jay, and on the third man in the room.
Jay knelt too, but in an awkward position over a padded chair that Austin thought was probably meant for something other than what it was now being used for. Like sitting on. Jay's naked ass was red, and his hands gripped the wooden frame of the chair tightly as the tall man standing over him repeatedly struck him with a slapper, the looped leather belt landing with a solid snap that made Austin tense as if it was his ass on the receiving end.
Jay wasn't happy, Austin could tell. The sounds Jay made after he'd called out the number of each stroke were frustratedeven desperateas if something was wrong, but Austin couldn't figure out the cause. It didn't matter. The night had been a disappointment, and it wasn't likely either of them would be back for more. Jay had just four strokes to go of his fifty and then they could get dressed, go home, and try to salvage something from the evening. Austin wanted their bed, Jay curled up against him, his long hair getting in the way when Austin kissed him. He wanted to take the sting out of Jay's ass with a cool, wet cloth and tell him just how hot he'd looked bent over, and he wanted to see Jay smile.
Three to go.
"Sauron!" Jay said, using his safe word for the first time in months. "Sauron!"
Austin broke position without thinking. He scrambled to his feet and felt his cramped leg muscles protest the sudden change.
"Stay where you are," Niall said sharply. Austin assumed the command was directed at him, and he hesitated, willing to let Niall handle Jay and bring him down slowly, but wanting to be there for Jay too.
"Just three more to go," Niall said and planted his hand firmly in the small of Jay's back, holding him down. "You can take it, boy."
Niall raised the belt, and Austin's uncertainty fled. He jumped forward and grabbed Niall's wrist hard enough that he could feel tendon grinding against bone. "No."
"I'm the one in charge here." Niall didn't sound convinced of that anymore, though, and Austin knew that was all it took in a situation like this.
Playtime was over.
"No," he said again. "He safe worded. You can't be stupid enough not to know what that means."
Austin was excruciatingly aware of Jay's breathing, harsh and uneven, but he also knew that until Niall relented, there was no option but to restrain the other man's hand. Jay was in a vulnerable position, and protection was more important than reassurance at that moment.
He tightened his grip on Niall's wrist. Niall winced, then nodded, and Austin felt the man's arm muscles relax. "Right," Niall said. "I was caught up. Yeah, we're done. Jay, are you"
"Don't touch him," Austin snapped, and Niall stepped back, his eyes wary. "Give us a minute. Alone."
He didn't wait longer than it took Niall to move away before dropping back to his knees, this time so he could gather Jay into his arms.
"Easy," he said gently as he helped Jay to get off the chair. "Take it slow. Deep breaths. Are you dizzy?"
"I'm okay." Jay didn't sound it. His brown eyes looked unfocused, hazy. Jay didn't always go deeply into a scene. He had a tendency to get distracted, something he could hide successfully enough that whoever was his dom didn't notice, but tonight he'd let himself fall without hesitation.
For once that'd been a mistake.
"You don't look it."
Jay shook his head, more to clear it than in denial, Austin guessed. "It wasn't working for me. I told him to stop. I did, didn't I? I said it?"
"Yeah," Austin said, anger burning through him. Jay's safe word had made him roll his eyes and grin when Jay had chosen it, but hearing it used, it hadn't seemed weird at all. Just very Jay. "You did."
Jay was taller than Austin by a few inches, but hunched over and pressing close, he felt smaller. He rubbed his forehead against Austin's shoulder, his exhaled breath warm against Austin's bare skin. "Thought so. Niall's an asshole."
"I'm not," Niall said, and Austin, who'd assumed he'd left the room, turned his head to look at him. "It was an honest mistake."
"There wasn't anything honest about it." Austin wanted to stand up and shout at Niall, intimidate him, make him feel something of what it was like to be on the other side of the equation. He felt like it was more important to stay with Jay, though, so he kept his voice low.
"There was." Niall came closer, holding out his handslook, not a threatand then sat down cross-legged on the floor. "I was caught up in the scene, and it didn't register. Jay, I'm sorry. It wasn't deliberate."
"Okay." Jay didn't look at Niall.
"No, really. I'm sorry." Niall sounded genuinely upset.
"We know," Austin said. "Just give us a minute here, will you?" He slid a hand under Jay's hair to the back of his neck and rubbed it. "It's okay. Everything's good. Take all the time you need. No hurry." He'd sit here all night holding Jay if that was what it took.
"You were so close to the end," Niall said, like that mattered. "Three more. I wanted you to feel like you'd accomplished something, I guess. Crossed the finish line."
"It's not a race," Jay said. The trace of irritation in his deep, slow voice was heartening. He straightened, and Austin let his hand slide down Jay's back, unwilling to break contact with him. "The numbers don't matter, just how I'm feeling, and it wasn't working for me at all. Couldn't you tell?"
"How am I supposed to" Niall broke off. "Jesus, it's not like I'm a mind reader. You could've said something, maybe given me a hint, not just ended it like that. When we started the scene, you two said you were up for a good, hard paddling, and that's what I gave you." There was a hint of sulkiness in his expression now, his remorse fading visibly as he worked himself up, justifying his actions. "Two of you
it's a lot of work, you know? My shoulder's going to be killing me tomorrow, and I'm supposed to be going indoor rock climbing with my boss. I hate those team-building exercises."
"You're unbelievable," Austin said flatly. "You were drooling at the thought of playing with us when I called you."
"Yeah, well, I thought I'd be getting something good out of it," Niall said. "I've never had a threesome before, and it sounded hot. Like a porn movie or something." He cleared his throat and scratched at his jaw, sheepish but hopeful. "How about I get us a drink and we can just, you know, move on?"
"To the bedroom?" Jay said. "Is that what you mean?"
"Well, yes." Niall shrugged, more relaxed now, as if he thought the awkwardness was behind them. "I get off on the spanking and the games as much as you two. You know I do, or you wouldn't have asked me to set this up for you. Doesn't mean that's all I'm interested in. What do you two do? I'm up for pretty much anything."
"Then I hope you're up for an evening alone, because we're going home." Austin uncurled himself from around Jay, stood, and held out a hand to pull Jay to his feet. "Get your clothes."
"You aren't in charge either, you know," Jay complained but went to do as he'd been told.
"What do you mean, going home? Don't you think you're overreacting?" Niall stood too, hands on his hips.
There was something intimidating about being naked next to a man who was fully dressed, but Austin was stubborn and used to getting his way.
Austin ran a hand through his hair. "Nope. And you're not going to change our minds, so you might as well give up now."
"Fine. Whatever. But you should know if this is the kind of thing you do, you're going to have a hard time finding partners. People don't like to be used." Niall sounded like a sulky teenager, and Austin knew from experience that the way to handle them was to ignore their attitude.
"Are you good?" he asked Jay, pretending Niall wasn't even there.
Jay could take his sweet time dressing in the morning, ignoring the clock and Austin's verbal prodding, drifting around their small apartment absently chewing on a piece of toast, crumbs floating down, but Austin was glad to see that tonight Jay was in no mood to linger. Their shoes were by the front door, and Jay's shirt hung unbuttoned over a faded T-shirt declaring I'M NOT MOVING UNTIL I'VE HAD MY SECOND BREAKFAST, but other than that, he was ready to leave.
Jay moved, shielding Austin from Niall's view. His shoulders were still rounded, his head ducked, but that was normal for Jay. In the two years they'd been together, Austin had never figured out if Jay's posture was due to his hobby, his job, or a desire to take up as little space as possible in the world. Maybe a little from every column. "Yeah. Let's go."
He sounded bored, but Austin didn't fool himself that Jay was ready to put what had just happened behind him. Jay would most likely refuse to talk about it in detail, but eventually he'd finish mulling it over and vent. Austin just hoped it was sooner rather than later. The longer Jay waited, the worse the meltdown would be.
Austin dressed quickly, his skin crawling because he knew without looking that Niall, who'd gone over to fiddle with the strap he'd been using, was watching him. He was too raw from hearing Jay's voice crack as he'd yelled out his safe word to feel any sympathy for Niall's blue balls. Even if the scene had played out better, there was no way they would've ended up in bed with Niall. He'd made that clear when he'd called to arrange the evening, but Niall had only heard what he'd wanted to by the sound of it. With Patrick, they'd been happy to blow him if he wanted that when the session was over, the two of them on their knees, their mouths saying thank you without words, as he stroked their hair or gripped their shoulders, his body taut with need.
Patrick had understood that Austin and Jay didn't want anyone else in their bed or their relationshipjust someone who could give them what they needed as subs. Niall would never have gotten that, and maybe it was unrealistic to expect him to. Unlike Patrick, he wasn't still emotionally committed to someone else.
Austin wanted to go back to the time when Patrick was living just a few miles away, not on the other side of the country. He couldn't grudge Patrick the new start the man had made, though he still missed him. Maybe they could call him over the weekend. Their good-bye gift to him had been a webcam, and Austin had installed it and run through the basics of setting up Skype, with Patrick dubious but indulgent.
"It's better than just talking," Jay had said, pushing his hair back behind his ears so he could give Patrick an earnest look. "You can see us."
"I've grasped that much," Patrick had said drily.
"And it's free. No long-distance charges."
"I'm convinced. And grateful. You're both very sweet, and I wish
"You don't," Austin had said quickly. "It's going to be great, Patrick. The job sounds perfect, your apartment's right by the beach and"
"And I won't miss Dan as much out there?"
Jay had put his arms around Patrick then, a comforting, clumsy hug. "Yeah, you will. You don't want to stop. Not yet. It's too soon. But it'll be easier someplace different. We get that."
Austin and Jay both missed Patrick for himself, as well as what he'd been able to give them, but it had been more than two months before they'd talked about what they were going to do without him. They both craved the emotional release being with an experienced dom brought. That they were a couple and determined to remain that way meant not just any dom would do. Meeting Patrick had been little more than luck, and recasting the role he'd filled was going to be difficultif not downright impossible.
In desperation one night, they'd attempted a scene on their own, with Austin playing the dom role. It had been a complete disaster. He hadn't been able to get into the right head space, which left Jay understandably frustrated and Austin alternating between apologies and near hysterical giggling.
Niall had been recommended by a friend, and though Austin believed he hadn't had high hopes for the encounter, his sense of disappointment as they got into the car told him he'd been fooling himself. "Well," he said, putting the key into the ignition but not starting the car. "That sucked."
"Beyond words," Jay agreed and put a hand on Austin's thigh. "You okay?"
"I'm not the one who safe worded and then was ignored," Austin pointed out. "Jesus." It was still sinking in.
Jay patted his thigh, comforting him as if Austin had been the one pinned down. "Yeah, but you didn't enjoy it much, either. I could tell."
True enough. The paddling Austin had gotten had felt good to start with, the familiarity of the act soothing. He loved getting his ass spanked red, the sizzle sinking in deep until it spread through him, leaving him wrung out and satisfied. He could climax from it if it was done right, needing nothing but a word of permission followed by one more perfect, painful slap. Niall hadn't brought him even close to that delicious euphoria. Austin had soon realized Niall's ideas of what constituted a paddling were basic to say the least. Placement, rhythm, force, the sweet cruelty of a pause with a few well-chosen words spoken in a clear voice cutting through the roar in his ears
none of that had been present. Niall had bent him over, groped his ass in a way Austin had resented, then walloped him with a brisk enthusiasm that had petered off quickly.
Niall had been right about one thing: His shoulder was going to ache tomorrow. The man was out of shape.
"He couldn't."
Jay sighed and picked at a frayed spot on his jeans, just above his knee. "Like I said. He's an asshole. We really blew it tonight. Patrick's going to freak when we tell him."
"We don't have to tell him."
Jay turned his head, the long, straight fall of his hair swaying forward. "He'll know something's wrong."
That was too much a given for Austin to even bother arguing. "Well, it's not like he can do anything to us when he's thousands of miles away."
Even he could hear the longing in his voice. He wanted Patrick to tell them they'd been reckless and come up with some inventive way to punish them that would leave all three of them smiling when it was over. Knowing it wasn't going to happen and they were on their own was more painful than anything Niall had done.
Jay shifted in his seat. "My ass hurts. I want to go home. I feel"he gestured impatiently with his hands, his long fingers graceful, expressive"like a firework that didn't get to go bang. Fuck. I really, really wanted this to work out for us."
"I know. Me too." Austin sighed and started the car. "Well, let's get you home, at least."
They didn't talk much on the way back, which was usual for them following a scene, but for entirely different reasons. Usually they were happily post-orgasm and exhausted, looking forward to a long shower and a deep, peaceful sleep. Tonight their silence was about the frustration they shared and the reality that they were once again out of options.
"We'll be okay," Jay said as they thumped their way up the long, narrow staircase that led to their apartment on the second floor of the old Victorian they called home. "Hey, come on. You're supposed to agree with me."
"Yeah. We'll be okay." It didn't sound particularly convincing. "Ow! Shit, Jay, when are you going to do something about these books?" Austin had tripped yet again over a stack of books, this one piled near the door.
"Sorry." Jay knelt to pick them up, then slid the stack closer to the wall.
Austin shut the door and banged his head against it, despising himself just a little bit. "No, don't be sorry. I'm an asshole. Come here." They were barely in the door, and here he was snapping at his boyfriend.
"I don't mean to bring home so many," Jay murmured against Austin's neck, hugging him tightly. "And you're not an asshole."
"Sometimes I am."
"Sometimes everyone is, I guess, but you, no. You're perfect."
Austin couldn't help laughing. "You work at a library, and you think I'm perfect? Doesn't it have a dictionary? Because I'm pretty sure my picture isn't next to that word."
"You take care of me," Jay said with a simple trust that made Austin feel like driving back to Niall's and punching him, hard. Jay wasn't naive exactly, but he tended to believe the best about people. That a dom wouldn't listen to a safe word would never have occurred to him before tonight, and Austin wasn't sure how Jay would process Niall's inability to follow such a basic, necessary rule. "You take care of your family too. Assholes don't care about anyone but themselves."
Jay's voice was muffled, but Austin heard every word.
"I love you." He didn't say that often enough. Jay shivered with pleasure and pressed a kiss against Austin's neck, unerringly finding the precise spot to make Austin's eyes squeeze tightly closed as his body responded.
Jay kissed him again, this time adding a nip from his teeth. "Want to salvage something from tonight?"
"Yes." There were a lot of other things Austin wanted to say, but he rarely shared more than a fraction of the thoughts that flitted through his head. He was the kind of guy who did what was needed and didn't talk about it. "Shower okay?"
That was the kind of thing he wouldn't put into wordsthe need to make Jay's skin his again, to erase any lingering memory of Niall's touch and put his on Jay instead. Austin wanted to touch every inch of Jay. He wanted to wash him clean and then take him to bed and fuck him, long and slow and careful.
The bathtub was an old claw-foot with a shower curtain that didn't really do the job. Long before Austin had moved in, Jay had bought a collection of bath mats and spread them on the floor all around the tub to soak up the inevitable flood. The mats didn't always dry out between showers, so Austin had insisted on a strict schedule of trips through the washer and dryer that was tiresome but necessary, like so many other things in life.
Austin was grateful every day that his relationship with Jay was the complete opposite of tiresome. He was still in awe of Jay's skin, of the light freckles that decorated Jay's shoulders and the smooth silkiness of Jay's lower back. Every smile Jay directed toward him was like an amazing gift. Sure, the piles of books and the clutter got on his nerves, but none of that was important when compared to Jay's loving, generous spirit.
Aware he was getting lost in thought, Austin forced himself to focus on the moment. He reached for the soap and a washcloth. "Turn around," he said softly.
Jay obeyed at once. Austin supposed both of them were inclined to do that in certain circumstancesand naked, wet, and horny definitely qualifiedbut now that they were floating, no hand on the rudder since Patrick had left, it always seemed to be him giving the orders. He didn't want to, though. It didn't feel right. God, this was so messed up.
He glanced down at Jay's ass, mottled faintly with rising bruises, the pale skin splotched with scarlet. If Patrick had made it look like that, Jay would've been twisting around to stare at it in the mirror every chance he got until the marks faded, touching the tender skin and loving every twinge. Austin got a kick out of Jay's wholehearted enjoyment of the aftermath of a scene. It was so rare to see him exuberant. Jay's happiness ran more to a steady glow than a blaze.
With his finger, he traced around a particularly dark patch of skin. Niall must've struck it repeatedly. That could feel intense in the moment, as Austin knew from experience, but it hurt like hell too. Jay hadn't been anything like ready for that level of pain so early in the session. No wonder he'd safe worded. Austin had been there, lost in the pain, unable to use it to guide him to any kind of emotional resolution. Patrick had picked up his confusion and eased back at once, so by the time the spanking was over, Austin had been sobbing with relief, not panic.
"Throbs," Jay said, a plaintive note in his voice.
"Yeah, it's pretty raw there," Austin said, not sugarcoating it. Jay would see it for himself, if not tonight, tomorrow. "The skin's not broken, though."
"Scrub it," Jay said. His hands were flat against the tiled wall, but as he spoke, they tightened into fists. "Scrub it clean, Austin."
It was his thoughts given words, but Austin hesitated.
"Hurt me," Jay begged, his voice breaking. "Not much, but I needI need to feel it from you. From someone I trust. I can remember him behind me, and God, I can still smell him on me. He reeked."
Austin wrinkled his nose sympathetically. Niall had been wearing cologne, the scent musky and thick enough to make his throat close up at first, though he'd gotten used to it after a while and tuned it out. Jay tended to react badly to certain odors, and strong perfumes were high on the list.
"I want to forget him," Jay said. "Make me. Please, Austin?"
Austin went to his knees. There was no way he could ignore the appeal in Jay's voice, not tonight. Not ever.
The slippery surface, hard, unyielding, hurt his knees, but he'd learned how to push discomfort aside when it wasn't important. Nothing mattered but giving Jay the reassurance he needed.
He worked up a thick lather on the washcloth and then applied it to Jay's skin, too gently at first. It made him angry if he thought about it too much, knowing Jay needed things he wasn't capable of giving. He wanted to give Jay everything, and he couldn't. It sucked. Austin tried to channel that anger into his hands, turning them rough and scrubbing the area that was already the sorest if Jay's breathing had anything to say about it.
"Yeah." Jay's voice broke again. It was almost a sob. "Like that. Little harder."
Austin did as he'd been told, feeling emotion choking him, his eyes stinging and the back of his throat tight and thick with it. "There," he said, scrubbing harder. "You're clean. Feel it? Nothing but soap and skin."