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Environmental Contaminants and Human Milk
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From: LEAVEN, Vol. 39 No. 6, December 2003 - January 2004, pp. 123-25.
Recent headline reports in news media such as USA Today and CNN have made public several studies concerning chemicals in human milk. The most publicized of these studies was performed by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization in the United States that recently completed the first nationwide test for chemical fire retardants in human milk. Each of the women in the sample showed unexpectedly high levels of brominated or bromine-based fire retardants in their milk.
When studies such as these are publicized, Leaders can expect the subject to come up at meetings and during phone calls. First and foremost, Leaders can assure mothers that human milk is still the best for babies and that all of the research available indicates that women should continue to breastfeed.
Environmental Contaminants Are the Problem, Not Mother's Milk
When discussing such studies with breastfeeding mothers, Leaders can point out that the reason researchers test mother's milk is not to condemn breastfeeding, but to find out the level and types of pollutants in our bodies.
Bio-monitoring (testing humans for pollutants) is being done more often because of recent breakthroughs in the ability to test human tissues. The easiest bio-monitoring tests are done using human milk. Other bio-monitoring tests can be performed using blood or fat tissues, but those samples are harder to acquire, and may require larger samples for accurate results. Some chemicals don't show up in blood samples, only in tissue samples containing fat. Testing human milk means that the mother can pump it herself, and volunteers are not subjected to needle pricks or invasive procedures to remove fat tissues.
Bio-monitoring of human milk provides an easy way to collect data about which chemicals are retained in body tissues. Researcher Kim Hooper states in his article, "Levels of chemicals in humans (body burdens) are useful indicators of environmental quality and community health." Like other researchers, Hooper says that the bio-monitoring of human milk should not be used to discourage breastfeeding, stating that, "body-burden monitoring using breast milk should include educational programs that encourage breastfeeding" (Hooper 2002).
Sandra Steingraber, PhD, ecologist, and author of the book Having Faith: An Ecologist's Journey to Motherhood, explains that toxins, including heavy metals such as mercury and lead, bind to milk proteins, and other chemicals, such as flame retardants, become trapped inside the milk fat, which is then carried by the liquid fraction of milk "like so many bath-oil beads."
Humans store environmental contaminants in their fat tissues over their lifetime, and at least 60 percent of the fat in milk-globules is drawn from reserves scattered throughout the mother's body. Hence, human milk carries with it the chemicals the mother has been exposed to and stored her whole life. It is also, therefore, one of the easiest tissue samples to use for monitoring the "body burden" of chemicals for an average adult. Particularly worrisome are the persistent organic pollutants (POPs) including DDT, PCBs, and dioxins, which remain in the environment for years.
The Environmental Working Group's Study of Flame Retardants in Human Milk
The Environmental Working Group (EWG) tested the milk of 20 first-time mothers from all over the United States, and found that every mother showed unexpectedly high levels of bromine-based flame retardants in their milk. Flame retardants are neurotoxic chemicals (chemicals that are poisonous to nerve tissue) used in hundreds of industrial, automotive, and household products, from bedding to computers, carpets to foam padding, wastewater pipes to electrical connectors. The study confirmed that American women have far higher levels of flame retardants in their body tissues than women in Europe (Lunder 2003).
There are many types of flame retardants with varying levels of toxicity. The most potentially dangerous type still being manufactured today is a group of brominated fire retardants called polybrominated diphenyl ethers, or PBDEs. PBDEs are the chemical cousin to PCBs and, like PCBs, they are persistent in the environment and bioaccumulative, meaning they build up in people's bodies over a lifetime. While PCBs have been banned in the United States, the United States Environmental Protection Agency has set no safety standards on the manufacture, use, or disposal of flame retardants. Earlier studies that showed PBDEs rapidly accumulating in the human milk of Swedish mothers prompted a ban on their use in Sweden, Germany, and the Netherlands in the mid-1980s and early 1990s. Since the ban, the level of fire retardants in Swedish mothers' milk has declined, and the European Union has banned their use starting in 2004. It is therefore likely that a similar ban in the US would have a similar effect.
What the Studies Show and What Remains Unknown
While the EWG found high levels of PBDEs in American mothers' milk, the research on what the effects are on babies remains unclear. While low exposures of PBDEs in laboratory animals have been linked with thyroid hormone disruption, permanent learning and memory impairment, behavioral changes, hearing deficits, delayed puberty onset, decreased sperm count, fetal malformations and, possibly, cancer, it is difficult and unpredictable to transfer those findings to humans.
It's important to note that numerous studies of laboratory animals and humans show that many of the problems associated with exposure to environmental contaminants occur in utero and not during breastfeeding or after. Sonya Lunder, an environmental analyst for the Environmental Working Group, writes:
Several long-term studies have followed groups of babies exposed to PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls) in utero and found that the breastfed babies appear to be less impacted by the chemical exposures than their formula-fed counterparts. One study of Michigan [USA] babies found significant improvements in babies breastfed for at least six weeks. The researchers concluded that PCB exposures in the womb were responsible for the neurological impacts, and that breastfed infants showed far fewer effects of PCB exposure (Lunder 2003).
Still, according to some Dutch studies, mothers whose milk is more contaminated have children with more mental and psychomotor deficits, although less than there are in formula-fed infants.
In reading and evaluating any study, it is important to consider who conducted the study and their methodology. For example, recent Dutch research on toxins in human milk, specifically PCBs and dioxin, which used pooled milk and were conducted by labs connected to the formula industry, linked high levels of contaminants in human milk with some mothers' inability to even produce milk. The US Natural Resources Defense Council, in commenting on dioxin in human milk, states the following:
A group of women may all donate samples that are then combined into one sample for analysis. This means that individual levels, and the variability (range) of dioxin levels, may not be known. Not knowing the range can be problematic because outliers (extremely high or low values) can indicate unique exposure scenarios.
How Leaders Can Help Mothers
As bio-monitoring studies using human milk gain popularity, we can expect media outlets to report more stories concerning pollutants in human milk. As La Leche League Leaders, we need to be prepared for helping mothers who call with concerns regarding the safety of their milk.
First, we can, as Leaders, reassure mothers that all available data show that human milk remains the best even in a polluted world. We can help mothers by acknowledging their fears and pointing out that environmental pollution is a reason to get rid of toxins from the environment, not to get rid of breastfeeding. As stated in "Towards Healthy Environments for Children," a FAQ (frequently asked questions) sheet published by WABA:
The existence of chemical residues in breastmilk is not a reason for limiting breastfeeding. In fact, it is a reason to breastfeed because breastmilk contains substances that help the child develop a stronger immune system and gives protection against environmental pollutants and pathogens. Breastfeeding can help limit the damage caused by fetal exposure (WABA 2003).
If mothers are looking to take specific action to reduce the level of chemicals in their body, research shows that not smoking cigarettes and not drinking alcohol helps reduce pollutants in the body. Also, limiting fish intake from waters reported as contaminated and limiting exposure to chemicals such as solvents in paints and gasoline fumes can help reduce environmental contaminants. (See the box on page 124 for more suggestions on limiting exposure to potentially hazardous chemicals.)
Mothers do not need to have their milk tested, according to "Towards Healthy Environments for Children,"
Individual testing of breastmilk should never be used as a basis for making decisions about breastfeeding, except in the rare case of an emergency short term response to an industrial accident (WABA 2003).
Breast Is Still Best
No discussion on chemicals in human milk would be complete without looking at the risks of not breastfeeding. Although soy-based and cow's milk-based infant formulas are generally lower in the contaminants found in human milk, they are hardly contaminant-free. In many areas of the midwestern United States, artificially fed infants are exposed to high doses of weed killers and nitrate fertilizers when powdered formula is mixed with tap water (Steingraber 2001). An artificially fed baby born in those regions will have absorbed 25 percent of his or her lifetime allowable dose of atrazine in his first year (EWG 1999). Most water treatment plants cannot filter these contaminants out. Also, formula tends to be more contaminated with lead than human milk. Human milk is, and always will be, a living, changing fluid that adapts to the needs of the infant. Leaders can help support a mother by helping her be aware of potential exposures and how they can be avoided, thereby providing milk of the highest quality to her baby.
Unless a mother's exposure to contaminants is extremely high-as in high-level occupational exposures-the benefits of human milk far exceed the risks of low levels of contaminants in human milk (Schrieber 2001). In fact, there is evidence that human milk with its species-specific optimal nutrition and its anti-inflammatory agents, including antioxidants, helps a child develop a stronger immune system and other potential protection against environmental pollutants and pathogens. In regard to organochlorine compounds (organic compounds containing chlorine), a recent study in Pediatrics states: "Long-term breastfeeding was found to be beneficial to neurodevelopment, potentially counterbalancing the impact of exposure to these chemicals through breast milk" (Ribas-Fito 2003).
Though each person carries some body burden of chemicals, human milk is the perfect food for babies, species specific, and designed for optimum growth and development. It is pollution, not breastfeeding, that needs to be stopped at its source.
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Human Development. Taylor and Francis, 1997; 95-143.
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New York: Berkley Books, 2001.
Additional resources
Breastfeeding, Breast Milk,
and Environmental Contaminants. International Lactation Consultant Association
Healthy Milk, Healthy Baby:
Chemical Pollution and Mother's Milk. Natural Resources Defense Council
Towards Healthy Environments
for Children: Frequently asked questions about breastfeeding in a contaminated
environment. World Alliance for Breastfeeding Action.
Working Together for a Toxic-Free
Future. World Alliance for Breastfeeding Action.
Minimizing Exposure to Contaminants: What You Can Do
It is impossible to reduce exposure to all contaminants. However, for those who would like to reduce contact with chemicals, especially before pregnancy and during pregnancy and lactation, the following suggestions may be helpful.
10 Simple Steps to Help Reduce the Level of Chemicals in Your Body
1. Avoid smoking
cigarettes and drinking alcohol. The levels of contaminants
have been found to be higher in those who smoke and drink
alcoholic beverages.
Because of the efforts of many women's groups, environmental groups, health activists, and breastfeeding advocacy groups, some well-known toxic chemicals (such as DDT and PCBs) have been banned in the United States and elsewhere in the world. For more information on creating a healthier environment, visit the following Web sites:
Baby Milk Action
Chemical Reaction
International Baby
Food Action Network
International Lactation
Consultant Association
International POPs
Elimination Network
National Network
on Environments and Women's Health
World Alliance
for Breastfeeding Action
Elizabeth Bauchner is a wife, mother, writer, and La Leche League Leader living in Ithaca, New York, USA. Her weekly column, "Mothering Matters," appears in the Ithaca Journal and addresses the concerns of women and children. Visit her Web site at www.elizabethbauchner.info. Special thanks to Contributing Editor, Norma Ritter, who originally received this article for the regular Leaven column, "Keeping Up-to-Date."


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With Valentine's Day quickly approaching (I'm already finding candy hearts and cards in City Market) it only seems fitting that our second Town Trappings will be for one of the most romantic restaurants in town: The Hearthstone.
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All right, so I'm mostly going to put out there what my opinions are on certain subjects right now. I am taking what's probably a more controversial standpoint on this, but a discussion via Twitter is going to be anything but helpful. That said, I am going to respect people's opinions, whether they are the same as mine, or they are different. If you cannot manage to read this post without looking at things from a rational standpoint, and you cannot respond as an adult, I would ask that you do not respond to begin with.
I don't want to make this post a diatribe about how other people are wrong. But I have been called selfish, I have been told I don't know what I'm talking about, and I've been linked this image, as if it's supposed to show how my opinion is "wrong." What I will say is that I hate political correctness. And yes, I do think a large majority of people need to get over themselves and get a thicker skin. However, there are going to be people that use words offensively, and there are going to be times where context shows that the offense is very definitely meant to hurt someone emotionally. What I want to dispel is this apparent belief that I can't see that.
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Enjoying the great weather in Cedar Key last Thursday were Molly and her owner, Bob Piscura. Sharing time between Virginia and Cedar Key, the two paddled over to Atsena Otie to chase crabs and run the beach.
The early sun that beamed into Chick Schwartz' studio seemed to wake things up.
A year-long experiment to increase oyster populations in Cedar Key that have died off because of reduced fresh water from the Suwannee River is slated to begin in March, according to scientists with the University of Florida.
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The new owner of Fishbonz would like to convert the former seafood market and eatery into a pub, but the location is posing a conflict that establishments serving alcohol be at least 500 feet from the nearest house of worship — one of several specified places.
Ronald McCabe, who owns the house at 12350 Pine Street, has asked the Cedar Key City commission to consider vacating the 40-foot right of way it owns behind the home but the commission has delayed taking any action.
Seahorse Key Marine Laboratory: who we are, what we do, and what is in it for you!
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There are some who are compelled by a landscape, a sacred site, a river… so compelled that they want to be there, even need to be there. Shell Mound is such a site. Have you seen the group of our neighbors and friends who have been so compelled by the site that they have chosen to be its caretakers?
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Years of horror. Years of being belittled, harassed, and told what to do by some member who knew less then us and still was unemployed and insane after decades in AA. We sat in smoky rooms, cleaned coffee cups when we didn't even drink coffee, experiencing abusive crazy batshit 13 stepping older creepy men and women for far too long. We understand, whatever brought you here, whatever you googled, it's okay. You found us. You found me, you have found tens of hundreds of us who never felt a part of AA or who NOW no longer feel a part of the 12 step culture.
We are all here for many reasons. But one we can most surely agree on. That is if we hear Chapter 5 read one more time…surely, we would blow our brains out. Figuratively.
It's not your fault. No….your skirt was not too short. You did not dress too sexily. Its them. It's not 13 stepping. Its called Sexual Harassment in the "Real World" Oh, but AA isn't the real world is it? It's some crazy made up religious type 1936 cult thing or, not. But wait, isn't this 2011? So why is our government sending people in droves to 12 step. Why are 90 % of Rehabs and Treatment Centers AA/NA based? Is it that one feeds the other? Is it that for many years there wasn't anything else? Maybe. But that has not been the case for over 25 years. So why don't the Courts and lawyers and Judges send DUI's and problem drinkers to the many alternatives that have been around for over two decades.
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Here are some positive self healing approaches: Some of us ran to (Smart Recovery) some to (Rational Recovery) around over 20 years by Founder Jack Trimpy. Some of us ran to (Women for Sobriety) and some to SOS (Secular for Sobriety), while some preferred a place that abstinence was not the way like HAMS Harm Reduction by Kenneth Anderson. Some wrote books like Amy Lee Coy and Hank Hayes and Dee-dee Stout, Stanton Peele and Albert Ellis. The list is longer and soon I will have a resource page as I have been reading all of these books for the past three years undoing the damage AA did to me for over three decades. Now let's compare these with the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. I think this book is a joke. I studied it in and out and after giving it a good 36 years study, I'd rather sleep zzzzzzzz. Actually I think it's dangerous if taken over zealously and I think many people feel it needs to be revamped and rewritten.
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Digital Tattoo Exhibits Net Art
In experimenting with ways the body can exhibit artwork -- work that changes and can only be viewable through technology -- artist Anthony Antonellis has implanted an RFID chip that can transmit net art, as shown in this (fairly graphic) video above by Animal NY. In the accompanying article to the video, reporter Marina Galperina explains how it works:
The NFC / RFID chip is the size of a grand of sand. It's equipped with a tiny antenna and encased inside a glass capsule to keep it from being disrupted by its fleshy environment. This chip stores 1KB of data and is readable like a key fob by compatible phones, tablets, card readers and the Arduino microcontroller.Read more and see images here.
The intersection of tattoos and tech is nothing new. We've written about the first animated tattoo, scannable bar code tattoos, augmented reality tattoos, and even a CNC automatic tattoo machine. But it's always interesting to me to see how the ways of exhibiting and viewing art is evolving with technology, and how we all can become walking galleries in different forms over time.
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When: Saturday, July 13, 2013, 9 a.m. to Sunday, July 21, 2013, 9 p.m.
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Home Food Preservation Series, Columbia
When: Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.
Tasty tomatoes, colorful peppers, sweet juicy peaches and other fresh produce....are all so easy to preserve. This series of classes on home food preservation will teach the latest and safest ways to can, freeze and dry foods. Sign up for just one session, two, three, four or all five: June 12-Freezing & Drying, June 19-Jam & Jellies, June 26-Pressure Canning, July 10-Pickles & Relishes, July 17-Canning Salsa & Fruit. more...
Canning salsas and fruits, using the water bath canning method, will be the focus of this session.
To register, mail the completed registration form and check made payable to University Extension Council to: University of MO Extension Center, 1012 N Hwy UU, Columbia, MO 65203. Registration deadline is June 6. Class size is limited. Enroll early. For questions or more information, contact the instructor Vera Massey: firstname.lastname@example.com or 573-445-9792. more...
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Car Review
2013 Nissan Frontier: New Car Review
Pros: Bullishly built; a capable workaholic
Cons: More attention could be paid to comfort and convenience
What's New: Lower base price; slight fuel economy increase; return of Desert Runner 4x2; available backup camera and parking sensors
It's unlikely that the 2013 Nissan Frontier will overtake the Toyota Tacoma this year to become top dog among midsize pickups. Because of its perceived toughness, reliability, resale value or all of the three, the Toyota is typically at the top of a shopper's list, while the Nissan Frontier holds down second place. The sales numbers tell the same story, with the Toyota outselling the Nissan at a rate greater than 2 to 1.
But we think there are several compelling reasons to consider the Frontier. Nissan's smaller pickup is built on a rugged platform, offers an overachieving V6 and, for owners that need it, can be equipped with off-road capability that exceeds expectations.
Available in two cab variants (King Cab and Crew), two bed lengths, as a 4x2 or a 4x4, with two powertrains and five trim levels, the Frontier can serve as a basic work truck, a near-luxury recreational platform or virtually anything in between. If you opt for the Crew Cab to use it as both a family hauler and weekend warrior, know that Nissan has paid appropriate attention to passive safety. Plus, the Frontier's Utili-track loading system is unmatched for hauling your toys. It's arguably the best thing for hauling since the invention of the pickup bed.
Comfort & Utility
The Frontier has always offered some measure of both comfort and utility, but you'd never confuse it with a Ford King Ranch or a GMC Denali pickup on either score. The Frontier's top-of-the-line SL Crew Cab has seating surfaces covered in leather, and the instrument panel provides a reasonably contemporary design. But in the same way that you can option Hyundai's value-oriented Sonata to near-luxury levels, adding leather to a midsize pickup won't materially change its mission statement. The Frontier remains, at its core, a workmanlike device for the transport of people and their things; comfort ultimately remains secondary to utility.
The base Frontier's cloth-covered buckets provide an attractive, breathable seating surface, with enough seat shape to be supportive but not so much as to make access difficult. For the driver, the ergonomically shaped steering wheel is a plus and so is the perforated leather wrap on the off-road-centric PRO-4X. On the Frontier Crew Cab, the split back bench will fold forward or flip up, providing flexibility in the rear-seat space.
Knowing Nissan doesn't intend to emulate the luxury of either GMC's Denali or Ford's King Ranch, we still wish its use of interior plastics in the Frontier had evolved since 1996; product planners should at least get the appearance and texture updated to this century.
In back, buyers have a choice of two bed lengths, plus options like the Utili-track channel system for securing loads and a factory-applied spray-on bed liner. We're not sure why the tie-down system and bed liner aren't available across the Frontier lineup (it's only on the SV, PRO-4X and SL), but the availability of either is a game changer in the midsize category. Utili-track is a must for drivers that depend on their pickups for hauling. And the spray-on liner provides protection and a non-slip bed surface from day one, without the hassle of an aftermarket job.
Nissan's technology starts with an in-cabin microfilter, found on the top three trim levels. From there, it's onward and upward. Optional audio on those same top three models include MP3/WMA CD playback capability, a radio data system, an auxiliary audio input jack, XM satellite Radio and the Bluetooth hands-free phone system. A Rockford Fosgate audio system is featured on both the PRO-4X and the SL and 10 speakers are included in their Crew Cab variants (the SL is only available as a Crew Cab).
Performance & Fuel Economy
Thanks to a few minor improvements like optimized aerodynamics, the 2013 Frontier returns slightly better fuel economy than its predecessor. Still, the Frontier's fuel economy range remains wide. A 4x2 4-cylinder with a manual transmission delivers 19 miles per gallon city and 23 mpg highway, while a Crew Cab SV 4x4 is rated at 15 mpg city/21 mpg hwy. Owners that plan to haul or tow should opt for the more powerful V6, despite its fuel efficiency deficit. With the bigger motor, the Frontier has a payload of up to 1,524 pounds and a tow rating of up to 6,500 pounds.
The Frontier's base powerplant is a 2.5-liter inline-4 offering 152 horsepower and 171 lb-ft of torque. When connected to its standard 5-speed manual transmission, the engine is adequately responsive, if not inspired. We like the 261-hp V6, although you won't confuse its on-road dynamic with that of its Infiniti stablemates. Bumping the displacement to 4.0 liters adds coarseness to the well-regarded V6 that its car-based cousins don't exhibit, and there's the matter of its relative inefficiency when compared to V8s in the full-size category. That comparison aside, those driving in congested areas may find the smaller footprint of the midsize Frontier to be a great blessing for day in, day out errand running.
In both active and passive safety, Nissan has checked most of the appropriate boxes, even though pickups aren't typically paragons of either. Active safety is augmented by accurate power-assisted steering, capable 4-wheel disc brakes with standard ABS and reasonable handling coupled with a composed ride. Nissan's airbag system includes side impact supplemental bags for front seat passengers and roof-mounted curtain air bags that provide side impact and rollover head protection for outboard occupants. An available backup camera and rear parking sensors assist in low-speed maneuvering.
Driving Impressions
With a choice of two engines combined with either 4x2 or 4x4 platforms, the Nissan Frontier can be most things to most people. It's no compact pickup, though; its platform more closely resembles Nissan's full-size Titan than Ford's now discontinued compact Ranger. The Frontier's base 4-cylinder is lighter on its feet, but you can't disguise the sturdy, fully boxed ladder frame or the hefty curb weight. Opt for the V6 and, with 261 hp and 281 lb-ft of torque, you'll have a truck that is certainly recreational in a straight line while reasonably composed when the road throws you a curve.
We're most impressed by Nissan's Frontier PRO-4X, the dedicated off-road variant with an electronic locking rear differential and Bilstein off-road shocks. Although we might take issue with Nissan's description of it as the ultimate off-roader, those waiting for Jeep to build a pickup needn't wait; Nissan has already built it.
Other Trucks to Consider
Several midsize pickups -- the Ford Ranger, Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon and Dodge Dakota -- recently left the market, leaving fewer competitors to the Frontier.
Toyota Tacoma - The Tacoma is the perennial sales leader among midsize pickups, in part because of Toyota's strong reputation and in part because of robust fleet sales. Like the Frontier, the Tacoma is available in a range of cab, trim and powertrain variations.
Honda Ridgeline - The Ridgeline is strictly a 5-passenger, 4-door pickup. A standard V6 engine, automatic transmission and 4-wheel drive make the Ridgeline a good competitor for top-trim Frontier models.
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Despite its age, the 2013 Nissan Frontier delivers an attractive, reliable package that can be configured just the way you want it. For light duty, the base King Cab is perfectly serviceable, while the V6 Crew Cab is an ideal family vehicle during the week or on the weekend. We'd opt for the off-road PRO-4X King Cab with a manual transmission and the Utili-track bed. Then we'd book two weeks with no map and no reservations.


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The federal government says it has plans to use advance technology to dramatically reduce the number of pat-down searches performed in the nation's airports.
The Department of Homeland Security recently put out a request for technology companies to come up with a hand-held scanning device that can be used instead of pat-down searches on passengers who set off alarms on full-body scanners.
The department oversees the Transportation Security Administration, which operates about 700 full-body scanners at 180 airports across the country. When the scanners detect a hidden object, TSA workers perform a pat-down search.
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Government marks Toilet Day
Samoa marked National Toilet Day by launching two garden toilets at Lepa and Saleaula. The toilets make up 10 garden toilets already launched in Upolu and Savai'i.
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Nine of 15 Directors who successfully completed the professional programme for Directors' course were awarded certificates of competence in directorship yesterday.
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Disgruntled police, military and prison guards stormed Papua New Guinea's Parliament on Tuesday in a violent pay dispute stemming from an international summit hosted by the impoverished South Pacific island nation over the weekend, a lawmaker said.
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Chinese President Xi Jinping said Tuesday negotiations between Beijing and Southeast Asian nations on a nonaggression pact to prevent clashes in the disputed South China Sea could be concluded in three years and promised that any differences will be dealt with peacefully.
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Manu Sina thrash Tonga at Oceania Championship
Samoa had a 66-7 win over Tonga in the second round of the Oceania Womens' Rugby Championship in Lautoka, Fiji yesterday. Tonga scored in the opening minutes when Manu Sina knocked on at the kickoff, and they rumbled over to take an early 0-7 lead.
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Zanesfield Petanque Club hosts weekend tourney
- Written by THE BELLEFONTAINE EXAMINER STAFF
The Zanesfield Petanque Club hosted its second annual Memorial Day weekend tournament.
In Saturday's Panache Doubles results, taking first for Concours was Abdul Elhadi of Chicago and Shirley Jones of Lexington, N.C. Second place went to Jeff Widen of Wyandotte, Mich., and Shannon Hodge of Bellefontaine. Finishing third were Driss Darhnaj of Columbus and Danny Daniels of Crossnore, N.C.
For Consolate, Ayayi Kessouagni of Chicago and Mike Stolly of Bellefontaine took first. Second place went to Zanesfield's Bo Johns and Mike Failor and third place went to Larry Creasy of St. Augustine, Fla., and Devon Johnson of Athens.
In the Sunday Select Doubles competition, Driss Darnaj and Ahmed Chafi of Columbus took first in Concours. Johns and Kessouagni took second and Gary and Shirley Jones were third.
For Consolate, Robert Moyer of Winston-Salem, N.C., and Creasy finished first. Ronald Walls of East Liberty and Don Baker of Dayton were third and Danny and Sue Daniels finished third.


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Remember earlier this year when Motorola said that it was targeting "late summer" for the launch of the follow-up to the Moto X? Well, the company hasn't said much about the device since, but the good news is that the rumor mill is more than happy to fill in Moto's silence.
A new report from @evleaks claims that the Moto X's follow-up, currently rumored to be known as the "Moto X+1," will launch in "the literal end of summer." He went on to explain that we could see the Moto X+1 launch during "the last days of September."
While an end of September release is still very much a rumor for now, it would make sense for Motorola. Most mobile manufacturers have stuck to a yearly refresh cycle for their flagship phones, and a late September launch would put the Moto X+1 a little over a year out from its predecessor.
As for the Moto X+1's specs, well, those are a bit more mysterious. The device is reportedly codenamed "Victara" and is expected to hit all four major carriers in the U.S. It's also said that the Moto X+1 will have 25 different back plate options in Moto Maker, including some leather backs.
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Car Review
2013 Nissan Leaf: Why I Bought an Electric Car
Believe it or not, I like cars. Not only do I like cars, I like trucks. More importantly, I like things that go fast. So why did I buy an electric car?
If money were no object, I'd probably buy a Ferrari F40. But, like most Americans, money was most definitely a factor when planning my car purchase.
Money Talks
When it comes to the 2013 Nissan Leaf, the main reason I chose it has more to do with tax incentives than anything else. Plus, after looking at the rebates, lease payment and fuel saved, we can almost drive the car for free over the next two years.
At the same time, I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything or making some big compromise. Things like cooled seats, navigation, LED lights everywhere and smartphone apps make the Leaf feel more like a compact luxury car than an eco-friendly commuter car.
The Leaf Is Fun
Also, the 2013 Nissan Leaf is surprisingly fun to drive. I've driven awesome cars -- a Mercedes-Benz SLS, a Nissan GT-R and a Lamborghini Gallardo, to name a few -- and while exotics are a blast to drive, so is the Leaf, in its own way.
It feels quick because of the instant torque of the electric motor. The fact that there's no engine noise makes the experience all the more enjoyable.
It's a cool car. We're the first of our friends or family to go with an electric vehicle (EV), and that's appealing to us. We like to try new things and this seemed like it would be fun.
Carbon Karma
Also, my wife Emily loved the idea of being more environmentally friendly. I reminded her that the leather seats and battery pack made of precious metals mined from what used to be forests aren't really that great for the environment, but we both think it's a step in the right direction.
We know that the U.S. can't go all-EV yet because of the power-grid infrastructure and lack of materials for lithium-ion batteries, but it's one more way that our household can reduce our fuel consumption.
I have a Chevy Silverado 2500HD and I race motorcycles. A Yamaha R6 isn't really fuel-friendly at wide-open throttle around a racetrack. Clearly, I've got some carbon karma to offset.
Of course, there are a few drawbacks. Emily works in commercial real estate, driving all over the city to show large office buildings, and we weren't sure how the Leaf would do on a single charge. We're still not sure.
Georgia isn't known for being a super-progressive state for much of anything, and charging stations for EVs are no exception. Georgia is behind on the number of charging stations per EV in operation, but we're hoping that this will improve.
Emily's building does not have a charging station, but they are telling her they will have some installed by year's end.
There are lots of unknowns, but that's part of the fun. Having only owned an EV for a month or so, I'm not sure if this will ultimately work out.
But I'm willing to give it a shot and see what happens. If just a few more people in large cities do the same thing, the impact on pollution and fuel consumption would be significant.


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Drowned in Sound's Album of 2012: Pick #1 - HERE
So, as stated here, there is no number one or maybe there is five number ones? http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145840-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--5-1
Simply click ^THIS on your choice(s) for album of the year. And feel free to reply below the five picks, explaining why you love each one.
- automatik, John_Ho, pichaelmarker, sean, MIDDLEMAN, rainmaker, BMS1, kubrahhh, sunstroke_house, Wasted_Opportunity, iizcallum, WHISKEY_KITTENS, hotsoftlight, cc981, Christophales, sizeofanocean, no_flashlight, Jambo31, Jack205, shinymcshine, iquitelikeradiohead, Lambchops, Camaceron1, shadster, Mr_Grieves, dave9cakes, pudding4, xilia, Juninho10, OvertakenByTractors, deadonthestairs, and APinkMonster this'd this
- shrewbie, icouldwinarabbit, and georgiabeth this'd this
- helio, cronenberg, orangejuice, sean, Tristant, eagleminded, jrwalker93, deep-blue, friday55, shakerwors, silver-crescent, burnmybird, GoatmeatMF, wonton, DanielKelly, aharps, spoiledff7, OvertakenByTractors, underwhelmed, duncaniw, Le-Roy, pichaelmarker, and Albert-Swearengen this'd this
- Yvash, Rhymenocerous, Untogether, inside-outside, aazerbeezee, johneggfish, backtotheballs, justanothersheeldz, Lililololaure, AfraidOfOwls, marke, matthewdrury, funkycow, RockyORourke, Christophales, MarwoodW, FannyMagnetophone, Rev_Kramer, SCROTUM, jwjp, PenguinPants, NeillyNeil, Hammer15, Icarus-Smicarus, CrispinAlexander, rich-t, chowny, RobinPlaysChords, boothyfearssatan, lobotomypop, bruised_blood, DangerousSnails, shimmetry, elliott, the-breacher, karl, chickenbones, Old_Man_Burner, maff, Jordan_229_2, Backbone, Pioneer, forzaborza, and NYFYO this'd this
- Jordan_229_2, pad_023, Steved, lukowski, Oissin_, skoldpumpkins, ambigyouus, blicky, Puds, AfraidOfOwls, matthewdrury, johnwiddop, Christophales, Stuzza, benfyffemusic, gamecat, chadders, Severed799, Luis_Carruthers, inside-outside, FWBTS, sweetverbs, emmettcruddas, Wakestock, nickd, OvertakenByTractors, KrisRocket, Camaceron1, hanshotfirst, APinkMonster, JayZ, shrinebabe, midnightpunk, Kyle_, silverfoxqpr, suedeheadscot, Pioneer, and mihanoid this'd this
- Stu_, sean, MarkP, twentynine, incandenza_, Stuzza, Christophales, Ricochet, and OvertakenByTractors this'd this
- pichaelmarker this'd this
not at all, because that has an unlimited set of options
whereas this is limiting everyone to these 5. Parameters can be important in times of abundance.
- Icarus-Smicarus and badgertastic this'd this
100 records is a lot
And there are probably another 100 records people have complained haven't been included/mentioned.
None of them would be my #1
and of the 5, I have yet to hear Swans (maybe I'll get it for Christmas!) or Sharon Van Ettin and Blondes doesn't belong anywhere near the top-slot (BORING).
So my choices are really WIXIW or Kill for Love, both of which I have enjoyed considerably... but I think Liars get the honour in the end, because WIXIW stands out as an illuminating moment for me; after the claustrophobic murk of Sisterworld it feels like breaking through into some sort of cavern, daylight peeking through a crack high up in the rock. It's still dark but there's enough light to see the beauty in the surroundings now.
here's the thing
you CAN vote for all 5 if you wish.
if you would like to argue about this IRL, we're having a DiSmas party on Dec 19th. https://www.facebook.com/events/284654351637924/
I meant the 20th!!!!!!
Sorry, Ed Harcourt's gig is on the 19th and my mind is screwed...
I don't think any of those albums, with the exception of Swans, are worthy
that Sharon Van Etten album is still one of the most disappointing albums of the year
I have listened to SVE more than anything else this year. And it's the one record that when I've recommended it to people this year, 9 times out of 10 they thank me and say how much they love it.shinymcshine this'd this
I could say the same thing about The 2 Bears - Be Strong
as everyone I've put on to it adored it. But it's not even in the 100. Another early year casualty, maybe?
Sean you seem touchier than usual this year
Is everything alright?
I'm getting less tolerant of others the older I get. Plus what's the point of posting a stupid comment if you don't get an equally stupid response? People seem to have drifted toward some bizarre MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY view of the world, and it seems really unhealthy. We're all just these pathetic pixel dots on some planet twirling around in space, yuhknow? Cosmic.
I respect what you're saying, but surely that's same as it ever was?
Indie kid marries goat, thinks his music taste is incredibly important and vastly superior and blathers on about it in patronising and definitive tones forever, goat files for divorce
All I'm doing is kicking your goat whilst you're sleeping!
- theguywithnousername this'd this
Not even bothering to listen to the other 4 records is a massive cop out.automatik and Lililololaure this'd this
There is currently a three-way tie
I will hang myself
With a silk tie.
Out of the five albums above, Sharon Van Etten's is my favourite.
It's definitely not my album of the year, although it is an excellent album. The albums by Beach House, The Walkmen and First Aid Kit have most plays on my mp3 player this year and so they'd be my top 3. I've seen each Beach House, The Walkmen, First Aid Kit and Van Etten twice live this year. Perhaps this should be a different thread but my band\artist of the year are The Walkmen. One excellent album and two amazing gigs. The Village Underground gig was breathtakingly brilliant.
Havent heard any of those.
I did start in on Swans but haven't been able to get through it. Haven't been in the mood for that type of thing this year, although I'm sure it's awesome.
fyi: there are links to listen to them all on the page
the idea in my head was that people would spend a week investigating each of them they haven't heard, and then vote.
In my personal top twenty, I think I had Kill For Love at 11 and Tramp at 15... but I went with Tramp here. The former is a brilliantly cohesive LP when I'm in the mood, but there are no mega stand-out tracks; the latter is sort of patchy but with moments of real brilliance.
More than anything, I think I just hadn't listened to Tramp for so long that it had slipped out of my mind a little. It is very good though.
Yeah, I had Kill for Love at 1 in my personal list I posted last week
but then I saw SVE again this week, and have become obsessed with Tramp again. I really can't decide between about 12 albums that I've loved this year, but those two are top of the tree for me. I think SVE is perhaps more representative of DiS' world, than Chromatics which perhaps could be perceived as a little too 'cool' for the beard brigade and too hipster for the hipsters - even tho it's actually just an incredibly crafted series of pieces of music, that should be elevated above and beyond things with a similar texture and tone. IDK.
It shouldn't be Swans...
They're a great band but for me the glowing praise this album has attracted from fans and critics alike is at odds with what it deserves. It feels like a step backwards (unlike My Father Will Guide Me Up... which seemed to be a progression/evolution), songs are dragged out to ridiculous lengths for the sake of indulgence/laziness rather than for any artistic/aesthetic purpose, and the whole record is not particularly exciting to anyone who's heard Soundtracks For The Blind (1996) which is similar, but more varied and a lot less boring. And I'm sick of [a certain reputable online music rag] banging on about them on a level akin to Q Magazine with their U2 fixation.
I actually believed that Ghostory will be the album of the year
So sad to hear it's not... :(
From that list of 5 I voted for Chromatics.
Given a mandate from our staff, I definitely woulda loved to have made it album of the year. I'm confused I didn't make it my personal album of the year seaninsound.tumblr.com/post/37020296745/my-40-favourite-albums-of-the-year-2012-as
from that pointless list Chromatics
and for me Beach house by a country mile. Not a vintage year,......again.
Tramp is SO overrated.
The clear winner is The Seer. No vote necessary, chaps.
The Seer is rubbish
- Sloame_Ocean, Icarus-Smicarus, JaguarPirate, and inside-outside this'd this
This seems pointless
You're asking me which of five records that I don't think are album of the year should be album of the year. I've already picked my favourites over on the other thread.Icarus-Smicarus and funkycow this'd this
Spoil your ballot
see above
BLONDES for me
Deserved 10/10.
I'll give my vote to Blondes
easily the best of that lot.
Slightly hypocritical Sean?
"The year-end-list process reduces music down to something that it was never intended to be when it was written or recorded, let alone listened to. When albums are put into a hierarchy, popular things will be popular, and a few unpopular things will be pushed to the fore by virtue of a few passionate individuals. Of course, lists are a good thing if you're a fair-weather music fan or a blog whore"
I'd say, judging by the forum topics you start, you like lists as much (more) than anyone. Of course music wasn't meant to be judged, but, that's what we're doing here. So let's judge. There must have been one of those that the writers voted for more than others? Judging by the other comments so does everyone else. I know which one of those is my favourite. But this is the DiS writers pole.
It makes pub conversations much easier to argue against DiS/P4K/NME etc... No. 1 (rush to the head) record of the year, when there's only 1.
if you have a pub discussion about a website making a certain album number one then you deserve what you getIcarus-Smicarus and andyvine this'd this
understanding what starts a conversation a website that is your job to run
and loving lists are two totally different things.
I'm a curious person that's interested in the opinions of individuals. I have no real time for the gloop that is consensus.
Think I'm gonna re-read this over Christmas, by far one of my favourite books. Well worth a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
None of those are my No.1
But Swans comes the closest, and it is a magnificent beast.
making lists and saying this album is better than that album
doesnt work for the top 5.. but does for the rest of the albums released this year...
grow some balls Sean. the top 5 is arse wank anyway.
As I said in one of the intros, you're free to go start your own website.
- andyvine this'd this
voted for everything except Chromatics because that record is a total turd
echo all the above statements about how silly this is as well
it's only silly
if you take things too seriously.
you have a whole week to listen to the other 4 and I provided links so that you can do so. No rush. That was kinda The Point of this exercise.
- Oissin_ this'd this
- Matt_was_taken and OvertakenByTractors this'd this
That's the point.
not sure how "which of my top five albums do you like the best"
is more interesting than "this is my top five albums"
did I say it was? Also there is no MY in TEAM, etc
p.s. I don't particularly like Swans...
I know what the problem with 'The Seer' is
it's too stagey. it's like 'Swans: The Musical' at times.
Everybody chill... :)
Great list, thank you DIS - surely the benefit of EOY polls is to discover some great music you may have missed out on during the year and this poll does this better than any others I've seen this year. For that, thank you DIS!
On a subjective note, it is great to see Liars & SVE so high - definitely my 2 most played this year.
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There has to be forced labour camps with a few places spare for those who don't like 'Kill for Love', surely?
Currently these individuals rank just below people who didn't like Peter Jackson's TLOTR trilogy and aren't going to watch the 'The Hobbit' in 'The complete shits of 2012 list', I've compiled.orangejuice and silver-crescent this'd this
i know
there is a surprising amount of people that don't like boring thingsaazerbeezee this'd this
- Lililololaure this'd this
can we have your top 5 complete shits please
no need to put them in order
SEAN this is DISGRACE
you are a COWARD, you have a DUTY to CHOOSE. i will meet you on the FIELD OF HONOUR.
I really like Kill For Love so I voted for that. Did I get this thread right?
In fact, how do you post one of those links that thises stuff?
I'm asking for a friend.
Can you just rig it so that Chromatics win? That way you get to double troll all the still-breastfed bedwetters who a) can't fathom why other people like music they don't and b) DEMAND the satisfaction of you telling them what album 'wins' a completely meaningless award.
- DanielKelly this'd this
Fuck off, mate.
It's very important that sean knows just how much I hate him.
SVE now has over 100 votes on Facebook
Shoulda just gone with my gut and made Tramp album of the year, but I thought some of you might enjoy this exercise, and that it might spark some debate (wasn't quite prepared for some of the mean, rude and weirdly personal abuse)
I don't really care about what's number 1, I just thought this felt a bit gimmicky for attention's sake, but then maybe you have to do that kind of thing sometimes to get noticed these days with so many lists out there. It's sad that people are getting personal though. :(
As an aside, sean, why do you have the Poll once Facebook and here?
Why give Facebook the traffic for something you've done? If you'd just linked it here you'd have had all those folks actually coming here and voting. Surely Facebook's not the place for somewhere like this to actually have content, like this list, decided? I don't see why you'd do this when you don't really have a product other than what this thread is.
And if your arguement is that loads of people are voting that can't sign up to DiS then there's something else wrong, isn't there?
for two reasons
1) because we've had to turn off sign-ups due to spam and trolls, and not having our new site ready which should solve a lot of these problems.
2) Facebook can be useful for things spreading virally when people see others voting. There's also some people who will have missed the list on DiS, but may spot it on Facebook.
I'm surprised more people haven't voted, considering 10s of thousands of people have looked at the top 5.
This is so stupid...
It's SWANS and 'The Seer'...
... and brutally, sprawling, beautiful epic. For groups 12th album to be their best is an incredible achievement. It needs to be listened to whole and it really does peak at 'Avatar' which is just a sonic charmer that does not pull back on its final punch.
Which is what I was gonna pick, but had people yelling the cases for the other four.
Aaaand the world* has spoken over how dull** Blondes is.
I listened to it again last night; no distractions, just me and the music. And my god I could not wait for it to be over. "Post-coital fade" indeed. The only reason I would put it on after sex is to get rid of the person hogging my bed.
*proportional representation innit
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For Your Eyes Only (US - BD RA)
Gabe prefers the original title: "I'd Rather No One Saw This But You, Is That OK?"
For Your Eyes Only is one of those frightfully generic Roger Moore Bond films that non-fanatics like myself dread watching when marathon time rolls around, but by most measures of good technical filmmaking there isn't a lot to complain about. The shooting is pretty sharp, the acting is up to snuff given the script, and the production values are pretty high. Given these reasonably infallible facts it's a surprise to generally think of the film as such a bore, but I have trouble recalling any specific elements even mere minutes after watching it.
Following the tongue wagging absurdity of Moonraker (one of my personal favourites, by the way), there weren't many places for the Bond films to physically go in For Your Eyes Only, so the producers and writers seem to have decided to just throw in a bunch of Bondian locational standbys into a pot hoping something would taste good. Sure, outer space may have been a little too over-the-top for the series, but revisiting snow capped mountains (which all pretty much look the same on film), underwater locations, and generic European cities isn't quite the follow up audiences really needed. The alternate route would've been the Dalton era semi-antithesis, but it seems to take the series producers two or three movies too many before they notice a reboot might be necessary.
Really the only thing that keeps me personally watching this particularly heavy-footed entry are John Glen's expertly cut action sequences (the car chase towards the beginning is one of the best in the series). The fact that the action scenes are interesting at all are a testament to Glen's skills, because on paper I don't know if I'd find a single one of them even slightly intriguing. Coming up through the Bond ranks as an editor obviously helped Glen perfect momentum and solid sense of geography in these scenes, which are honestly, from a technical stand point, some of the best in the Roger Moore series. It's too bad that the director's talents were wasted on four of the dullest Bond scripts.
The treatment of the Bond girls is slightly evolutionary from a script writing standpoint (huge props for including Bond's wife's grave), and considering Roger Moore's age at the time the lighter touch is definitely called for, but the other character treatments are dully generic. Moore looks especially bored by the whole thing, and there isn't more than a moment or two to remind us that Bond is a dangerous man, or even a particularly talented man, and story wise he's saved by others over and over again. The Moore problem would of course overtake the entire film when filming ran on Octopussy.
For Your Eyes Only was the first Bond film of the 1980s, meaning it has almost a twenty year video advantage over Dr. No and From Russia With Love. It's also the second Bond Blu-ray presented in 2.35:1 widescreen. John Glen's fully structured action scenes, and Alan Hume's straight forward photography are both richly represented on this disc, which is easily the best I've seen the film look. The stock's younger age makes a pretty big impact in the natural and sharp details. For Your Eyes Only isn't as garish as something like Live and Let Die, but it's very colourful, and besides maybe a few blooming reds and slightly dirty whites, the colours are cleanly represented. Blacks are still rich, but unlike some of the other Blu-ray releases, the overall contrast is much more subtle.
Again, there isn't much exciting I have to say that is specific to this Bond Blu-ray concerning the sound. The film is presented in both a fully lossless DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and the original track, in this case a Dolby Stereo Surround. Again, the revamped surround sound is gracefully and cleanly culled, though the impressive nature of remixing from Dolby Surround is a little less impressive than remixing from Mono. For Your Eyes Only, being more modern, has a slightly more subtle sound pallet, but there are still plenty of massive explosions, hyper-realistic machinery brick-a-brack, and generally over-the-top bits of audio fun.
Bill Conti's score is very awkwardly endowed with a smiting of early '80s disco pop. The DTS-HD track is full of punchy bass and warm instrumentation, enough to impress your system and trick it into thinking that somehow '80s disco pop is a modern sound. The titles song, sung by Sheena Easton, may be my least favourite James Bond theme ever. It's just so disgustingly early '80s soft rockish, but hey, you should hear it in uncompressed DTS audio man, it's like listening to slaughtered cattle in person rather than on tape.
More of the same, but unless you're sick of the old DVD releases extras the Blu-ray extras should make you plenty happy. In comparison to the other Blu-ray releases the extras are slightly more substantial. Things again begin with a series of commentary tracks: one with Roger Moore solo, one group commentary featuring director Glen and members of the cast, and a larger scaled group track featuring Michael G. Wilson and members of the crew. I floated around all three tracks, and found all three a little dry. The crew group track was probably the most consistent and informative thanks to a little extra added moderator action.
This time the MIG Vault holds a little more than vintage behind the scenes featurettes. Okay, the vault doesn't hold that much more, but rather than just one or two vintage featuretts, we get three: 'Bond in Greece', 'Bond in Cortina', and 'Neptune's Journey'. This is followed by the relative novelty of two deleted scenes with an introduction from Glen. The scenes are presented in hi-def video, but quality-wise they're a little beaten up. These are followed by an 'expanded angle' version of Locque's death.
The 'Inside For Your Eyes Only' doc actually makes me want to like the final film more than I did. Apparently I just didn't get the film because it was supposed to be a less spectacular return to Earth for the character. I guess I missed that point among all the cranked up action. The thirty minute doc is just as fact filled and fast paced as the other 'Inside' docs, featuring even more behind the scenes footage, and again is my personal favourite extra on the disc.
The disc is finished out with two animated storyboard sequences, a music video, trailers, TV spots, and more of those mission control and image galleries.
I suppose watching all these movies in a row doesn't really help me judge them as subjectively as possible, but time is of the essence. For Your Eyes Only is a technically adept film, more technically adept than perhaps any of the Roger Moore Bonds, it's just so much more of the same script-wise. A large part of me personally not being a bigger fan of the series is the familiarity of the formula. This, coupled with my relative exhaustion after watching six Bond films in a row, should put my personal opinion in perspective for fans. On the other hand, I'm not jaded enough with the whole thing yet to not be impressed what is so far the most impressive of the Blu-ray discs visually speaking.
* Note: The above images are taken from the Blu-ray release and resized for the page.
Review by Gabriel Powers
wnicholas76 Member Join Date: June 2008 Location: United States Posts: 281
I actually liked "For Your Eyes Only". The highlight of the film was the big ski chase scene with the theme song from "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" playing in the background!
bondfool Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United States Posts: 120
For Your Eyes Only is one of my favorite Bonds.
james55011 Banned Join Date: July 2008 Location: United States Posts: 29
I agree. For Your Eyes Only IS a great James Bond movie and ranks as one of the best in the series. Even if you are not a huge Roger Moore fan.
David Blackwell Senior Member Join Date: February 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,831
I think FYEO was trying to capture the feel of early Connery "Bond" films
james55011 Banned Join Date: July 2008 Location: United States Posts: 29
Do you think they succeeded?
Wilson Bros Reviewer Join Date: August 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,183
Aww, Gabe - you disappoint us by putting the boot into For Your Eyes Only and declaring the idiotic Moonraker as one of your favourites.
History later repeated itself when the moronic Die Another Day gave way to the wonderful Casino Royale.
Oh, we freely admit that Bill Conti's score is just GHASTLY...
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History later repeated itself when the moronic Die Another Day gave way to the wonderful Casino Royale.
Oh, we freely admit that Bill Conti's score is just GHASTLY...
The Wilson Bros
Blofeld Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 33
The stunt where Bond falls off the rock face and dangles at the end of the rope is AMAZING.
Neil Alcock Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 12
Gabe, we've let you get away with it for 3 reviews but it can't go on any longer. It's not 'The MIG vault', it's 'The MI6 Vault' - this is Bond, not Top Gun! ;-)
Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,721
Neil Alcock wrote: Gabe, we've let you get away with it for 3 reviews but it can't go on any longer. It's not 'The MIG vault', it's 'The MI6 Vault' - this is Bond, not Top Gun! ;-)
HA HA, I should've caught that. I guess it was a mix of the menu's bad font choice and my thoughtless copying of data when writing the names of extras.
I respect the positive opinions on this one, but I think I made a pretty good case for myself. I knew it was rather loved when I wrote the review, and other than the Moonraker admission I tried to play it pretty safe. Honestly though, I can watch Moonraker any time it's on TV. It's like those goofy Italian Bond ripoffs. I half expect Diabolik to jump out and fistfight Moore at any moment.
HA HA, I should've caught that. I guess it was a mix of the menu's bad font choice and my thoughtless copying of data when writing the names of extras.
I respect the positive opinions on this one, but I think I made a pretty good case for myself. I knew it was rather loved when I wrote the review, and other than the Moonraker admission I tried to play it pretty safe. Honestly though, I can watch Moonraker any time it's on TV. It's like those goofy Italian Bond ripoffs. I half expect Diabolik to jump out and fistfight Moore at any moment.
Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,716
I feel Moonraker was one of the best as well....
GavSalkeld Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 439
I just watched Moonraker lately and found it better than The Spy Who Loved Me, which I always thought was great.
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Release Date: 21st October 2008
Discs: 1
Disc Type: Blu-ray Disc
RCE: No
Video: 1080p
Aspect: 2.35:1
Anamorphic: No
Colour: Yes
Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 English, Dolby Digital Surround English, Dolby Digital Surround Spanish, Dolby Digital 5.1 French
Subtitles: English HoH, French, and Spanish
Extras: Roger Moore Commentary, Director/Cast Commentary, Crew Commentary, Inside Live and Let Die, Deleted Scenes, Extended Angles, Featurettes, Trailers, TV Spots, Storyboard Animation, Image and Info Galleries
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Director: John Glen
Cast: Roger Moore, Carole Bouquet, Topol, Lynn-Holly Johnson, Michael Gothard
Genre: Action and Adventure
Length: 128 minutes
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