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BUZ SAWYERMedium: Newspaper comics
Distributed by: King Features Syndicate
First Appeared: 1943
Creator: Roy Crane
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In 1946, Milton Caniff made a huge splash by abandoning the comic strip he was famous for, Terry & the Pirates, in favor of
a new creation, Steve Canyon, because he wanted to own the strip he worked on. But he wasn't the first cartoonist to make such a move — a few years earlier, Roy Crane had done the same, leaving Wash Tubbs to create Buz Sawyer.
The parallels don't stop there. Terry and Tubbs were both little guys with big sidekicks to do the fighting, whereas Canyon and Sawyer were both full-fledged heroes who gained military experience during World War II. Terry and Tubbs both had fabulous adventures in exotic parts of the world, whereas Canyon's and Sawyer's world-spanning exploits were more down-to-earth. Sawyer adventured as a bachelor for years before marrying Christy Jameson; and much later Canyon married Summer Olsen.
And finally, although Canyon and Sawyer both long outlasted their creators' stints on their earlier strips, both cartoonists were better known, all their lives, for their pre-war work. But the strips they created in their mature years are also very, very good — in fact, Buz Sawyer was good enough to land its creator the National Cartoonists' Society's Reuben Award for 1950.
John "Buz" Sawyer started out (on Nov. 1, 1943) as a Navy fighter pilot in the Pacific Theatre of World War II. When the war ended, he, like most men of his generation, found it difficult to adjust to postwar life. Eventually, tho, he found a job that offered scope for adventure. After that, it was a long succession sheiks and mercenaries and pirates all the other adversaries you find in rip-snortin' adventure yarns, interrupted by occasional bouts of marital bliss with Christy. Later on, he rejoined the Navy, and his adventuring took a more patriotic turn.
During the war, Buz had a comic-relief sidekick named Roscoe Sweeney. Afterward, Roscoe was seen only occasionally in the dailies, but was the star of the Sunday strip. He'd settled into a comfortable suburban situation, and the strip consisted mainly of Blondie-like gags about his life in the neighborhood. From the late 1940s on, cartoonists other than Crane, first Clark Haas and later Al Wenzel, handled the Sunday strip.
Ed Granberry signed on as an assistant to Crane in 1944, and Hank Schlensker in 1946. Eventually, they were handling most of the scripting and art, respectively, with Crane functioning mainly as supervisor. Even then, tho, there were uncredited ghosts — one of whom, Clark Haas, went on to the dubious achievement of creating Clutch Cargo Granberry and Schlensker began signing the strip in 1977, when Crane died. Both retired in the '80s, and John Celardo, who had succeeded Burne Hogarth on Tarzan and later Joe Kubert on Tales of the Green Berets, took it over. The strip ended in 1989.
Buz Sawyer pretty much stayed in its original venue — there were no movies, TV shows and only one Big Little Book. It didn't even get into comic books, other a few reprints from Dragon Lady Press or in Comics Revue magazine. But within the realm of daily adventure strips, it's still considered one of the best.
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Discourse Sixteen: A Short Study of Christ and the Gospel
Even though Jews attach great importance to their national history and recording of events that occur throughout their lives, there is no mention of Jesus Jesus, the conditions of his birth and appearance as a prophet, his lifestyle, and the miracles God manifested through him. As to what caused this chronicle to be hidden from them or what caused them to hide it, is not clear.
Regarding the Jewish people, the Holy Qur'an declares:
﴿ ... وَقَوْلِهِمْ عَلَى مَرْيَمَ بُهْتَانًا عَظِيمًا * وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللّهِ... ﴾
"And that they uttered against Mary a tremendous calumny and that they said, 'We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the prophet of Allah'…"1
Was the evidence for this claim a story they cited without support of any historical book—just as other nations have many both true and mythical stories that are not considered creditable without correct and reliable evidence—or had they heard the name of Jesus and his birth and appearance from Christians then slandered Mary and claimed to have killed Jesus?
There is no way to arrive at a clear answer without resorting to the fact that the Noble Qur'an only explicitly attributes the claim of killing the Messiah to them. It also notes that they had doubts and disagreements among themselves in this regard.
On the other hand, what Christians believe about the Messiah, the Gospel, and the good news [bishārat] is based on the New Testament, that is Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, the Acts of Prophets, and other books such as Paul, Peter, Jacob, and Judas. The authority of all of these is based upon that of the Gospels therefore I will discuss the latter.
Writers of the Four Gospels
The gospel of Matthew is the oldest written; composed in 38 CE according to some. Others, however, maintain that it dates between 50 to 60 CE.2 Even so, it was clearly written after the time of Jesus Jesus ('a). Researchers hold that it was originally written in Hebrew then translated into Greek and other languages. The original Hebrew text is not available and its translator and the quality of its translation are unknown.3
Mark, the author of another of the Gospels, was a student of Peter. He was not one of the Apostles himself. It is said that he wrote his gospel at the behest of his mentor.
He did not believe in the divinity of the Messiah. That is why some Christians say that he wrote his gospel for nomads and peasants introducing the Messiah as a prophet and conveyor of God's precepts.4 Regardless, Mark's gospel was written in 61 CE.
Luke, who wrote yet another of the Gospels, was neither an apostle nor had he met the Messiah. Paul had converted him to Christianity. Paul was a zealous Jew who greatly harassed the followers of Jesus. One day he suddenly claimed to have suffered an epileptic fit wherein he touched Jesus Jesus, who prohibited him against persecuting his followers. He converted to Jesus' faith and started to proselytize the gospel in the Messiah's name.
It was Paul that established the prevailing foundations of Christianity and based his teachings on the idea that faith in the Messiah alone without any good deeds is enough for the deliverance of humanity.
He also permitted eating dead meat and the meat of pigs! He also considered circumcision and many other precepts from the Torah to be forbidden. The gospel of Luke was written after the gospel of Mark and the death of Paul and Peter. Some emphasize that this gospel did not come as divine revelation and the words at the beginning of this book indicate this fact.
John, author of the fourth gospel, was according to some accounts the son of a fisherman, one of the twelve Apostles of the Messiah, and greatly loved by him.
It is said that because Sharintus, Ebisun, and their followers believed that Jesus was a creation of God and his existence did not precede that of his mother, the bishops of Asia and others went to John in 96 CE and asked him to write that which others had not written in their gospels. In other words, they asked him to explain the divinity of the Messiah and he could not deny them their request.5
There is disagreement as to the date John's gospel was written; whether it was in 65, 96, or 98 CE. However, some profess that its author was not even John, the Apostle. Some of these believe it was written by a student of the Alexandrian School.6
Others however, believe that it and the other books of John were written by a Christian in the second century of the Common Era who attributed these books to John, the Apostle, to give them credibility. Still others maintain that the gospel of John originally had twenty chapters and after his death, the Church of Afās added the twenty-first chapter.
These are the conditions of the Four Gospels that go back to seven persons (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul, and Judas) and their ultimate credibility is based on the Four Gospels, ending in the gospel of Matthew, the oldest of the Gospels. As we previously mentioned, the original Gospels were originally written in Hebrew and are currently unavailable. It is not clear who translated them or whether the teachings of the original were based on the prophethood of Jesus or his divinity?!
The current bible states that among the Children of Israel a man named Jesus, son of Joseph the carpenter, appeared who invited the people to God. He held that he was the son of God and was created without having a human father and that his father had sent him to be crucified in reciprocation for the sins of the people.
He brought back the dead, cured congenital blindness and leprosy, and healed the mad by exorcizing the evil spirits within them. Jesus had twelve students, one of which was Matthew. He gave them blessings and sent them to invite the people and promote Christianity…
This is a summary of the Christianity that has enveloped the East and West of the world. As you can see, its foundation is an isolated report from someone (refers to the translator of Matthew) who neither his name nor characteristics are known!
This astounding weakness in the origin of the story has caused some European writers to say that the Messiah is basically a mythical character created by religious revolutions in favor of or against the government of the time!
This is confirmed by another myth that is similar to it in every way: that of Krishna. The ancient idolaters of India considered him the son of God who descended from the divine realm to be hanged in this world and in this way sacrifice his life for the people and save them from their sins.
It has also caused another series of critics to believe that there were two people with the name Messiah with more than five centuries between them and that the reputed Christian era conforms to neither. Rather, the first Messiah was born over two hundred years before the starting point of this era, lived around sixty years, and died without being crucified. On the other hand, the second Messiah was born after 290 CE, lived for nearly thirty-three years, and was crucified.
It should be noted that, in short, Christians do not deny that the starting point of the Christian era does not conform to the birth of Christ (refer to "Qāmūs-e Kitāb-e Muqaddas" (Dictionary of the Holy Book)).
In addition to what has been said, there are other dubious issues. For instance, in the first two centuries of the Common Era many gospels were written; reputedly over one hundred. The Four Gospels are among these. Later, the Church banned the other gospels and authorized only these Four Gospels which were in line with its teachings.
One of these abandoned gospels is the Gospel of Barnabas. A suspected copy of it was found several years ago and was translated to Arabic and then Farsi. That which has been written in this account about the story of Jesus ('a) is congruous with the Noble Qur'an.7
- 1. Sūrat al-Nisā' 4:156-157.
- 2. Refer to "Qāmūs-e Kitāb-e Muqaddas" (Dictionary of the Holy Book).
- 3. Refer to "Mīzān al-Haqq" (Criterion of Truth). "Qāmūs-e Kitāb-e Muqaddas" (Dictionary of the Holy Book) also hesitantly confesses to this.
- 4. In "Qāmūs-e Kitāb-e Muqaddas" (Dictionary of the Holy Book), it says (regard carefully):
"It has been expressly cited of the ancients that Mark wrote his gospel in Rome and it was published after the death of Peter and Paul. However, this is not very credible because it appears that it was written for tribals and villagers not for city-dwellers especially inhabitants of Rome."
- 5. Cited in "Qisas al-Anbīyā'" (Stories of the Prophets) from the book of Gorges Zadīn Futūhī Lubnānī.
- 6. Cited from "Catholic Herald"; this is also indicated in "Qāmūs-e Kitāb-e Muqaddas" (Dictionary of the Holy Book) under the heading Yūhannā (John).
- 7. Extracted from the yearbook, "Ma'ārif-e Ja'farī".
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Former Phish Member Trey Anastasio arrested for DUI
By Garth O'Brien | December 15, 2006
Filed Under Celebrity DUI
December 15, 2006 – Whitehall, New York. Former Phish member Trey Anastasio was arrested for DUI. Police noted Anastasio was having difficulty keeping his vehicle within his lane of travel. Trey Anastasio's vehicle kept pulling to the right. During the DUI investigation police discovered various painkillers including Percocet, Xanax and hydrocodone. Hydrocodone is also known as Vicodin. Trey Anastasio also was driving with a suspended New York driver's license.


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The contents of a long, rambling essay written by a Costa Mesa man who likely blew himself up in an apparent suicide are concerning police, authorities said Monday.
The 17,000-word essay, titled "The Pricker: A True Story of Assassination, Terrorism and High Treason," includes references to aliens, the O.J. Simpson trial, the U.S. government and "the pricker," which the author describes as "an assassin's weapon that deposits biological agents into a victim's skin, on contact, without their knowledge."
Though its author, 52-year-old Kevin Harris, apparently killed himself in the Mesa Verde area Sunday evening, elements of it are still of concern, said Lt. Jerry Hildeman. He declined to elaborate on what contents police were focusing on.
Throughout the paper, Harris expresses a belief that the U.S. government and its allies are all-powerful. Government leaders control the flow of information to the public and assassinate dissenters through freak accidents and diseases like cancer, he wrote.
He wrote that the government was behind the killing of Nicole Brown Simpson and John Lennon, the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the death of Righteous Brothers' singer Bobby Hatfield.
Neighbors described Kevin Harris, 52, as odd but harmless with a history of mental illness, possibly schizophrenia. Harris appeared to address some of those issues in the essay.
"Even the lay public knows that hearing voices in your head is a symptom of schizophrenia," he wrote. "It is so well publicized because it is a lie. The voices may tell the victim that there is a microchip in their brain, or other nonsense, but the voices are real."
Neighbors told The Times they walked past Harris' home at a brisk pace. The home was wrapped in tin foil, and cryptic notes would randomly appear, taped to a tree in the frontyard.
Doug and Jenny Nadasdy, who live near the scene, have resided there 28 and 20 years, respectively. The pair saw Harris minutes before he died, they said. Doug Nadasdy nodded at Harris and he nodded back, but that was the extent of their exchange.
The Nadasdys said they never saw lights on in the house. The explosion that authorities believe killed Harris sounded like a car crash or like a trash can falling, the Nadasdys said.
Costa Mesa Lt. Bryan Glass said officers responded to a loud bang at 7:45 p.m. Sunday and upon approaching saw Harris' body in the front door. He was dead when they got there.
The inside of the house was dark because windows were covered with aluminum foil, Glass said.
Neighbors said Harris used to ride his bike around the neighborhood and had posted "The Pricker" to his tree out front.
David Rosendahl said he runs in the area regularly and first started noticing odd notes posted to a tree in front of the house about four or five months ago. He described the messages as "odd."
"I guess that's the only way to put it," he said.
Rosendahl noticed a new note on Saturday morning and snapped a photo.
The note said: "For your information: My introspection and my adversaries behavior have convinced me that electronic mind reading is now reality."
"It would be there for maybe a week or so and then disappear," Rosendahl said. "Then another would pop up."
Rosendahl said he's also seen a clipboard and pen attached to the tree with papers allowing room for names, addresses and signatures – similar to voting logs, he said. Although a couple of the pages were blank, some information had been listed.
Harris' essay warned of the dangers that lurk inside the home.
"I am at 3152 Bermuda Dr., Costa Mesa, CA, USA. You can tell it's me because I am the only one who can get into my house," the document reads. "I think it may be dangerous for you to come to my house alone."
The document appears to have been first written in 2002 and updated in 2005. The website labels it a "draft of a work in progress."
"Neither my monther, nor anyone else, has been in my house in years," he wrote. "This is an application of call forwarding – away from my ouse, or some other telpehones whiere it is known I will call. 'Harmless' calls are routed back to me."
Neighbors said Harris would sit in a chair in his yard and never let anyone inside his home. There were cameras outside his house, neighbors said, but they never knew if they were working.
"I have been looking for people…who are not fakes, have not been fooled, tempted, initimidated, killed, crippled, or jailed, and who can not be ignored," Harris wrote. "Because I have not found such a person, I have had no choice; I have had to become such a person."
About 5:45 p.m. Sunday Costa Mesa police were called to Harris' home for a report of a man down. When they got there, Harris got up and went back inside. He told police he was fine and was wearing a hat that said in effect, "I don't need any help," said Sgt. Jerry Hildeman.
Two hours later police were back and Harris was dead after an explosion. Three explosive devices were found inside the home. Two of them were crudely made, authorities said. They were detonated.
This story was reported by Joseph Serna.


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Flowers are dropped into a vase. I do not attempt to tame them, but to capture something of their essence, a moment of their ephemeral beauty. Working experimentally in acrylics and watercolours, I become absorbed in mark-making, working to describe the spirit of the plant.
I originally worked as a Footwear Designer in London, after gaining a degree in Footwear and Accessories Design from Cordwainers College at London College of Fashion. Before this I went to Herefordshire College of Art & Design. A much anticipated return to Herefordshire after nearly a decade in London gave me the opportunity to develop my artistic practice.


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Welcome to the Hooniverse Classic Captions Post, and it's that time of the week in which this feature appears, so let's review the premise; I search for images that were used by the car companies in their print advertising, dealer displays or brochures, and it is your job to provide a humorous caption that is some how tied in with the image. This week we have an image of <1>a Maverick in Action, but we will get to that in a moment… But first, with our commenting system that has gone awry, I am expecting participation levels to be way off… So please be patient and have fun with this feature anyway.
Last time we had an image of a Couple of Love Bugs , and the participation rate was awful, even before the problems with the commenting system, so let's review last week's entries. Our runner up comment was from $kaycog, and she used a current book title to make fun of the colorful beetles: "Fifty Shades of Grey" is child's play for Dick and Jane." I really have no idea how popular that book really is, or the Movie for that matter, but it was a funny comment…
But the winner for this week is Batshitbox (Yes, once again) and his caption went like this: "VW knew that kisses were horizontally opposed, air cooled, and best at low speeds." That was very well played, so congratulations Batshitbox on winning this weeks Classic Caption Contest.
It's now time to take a look at this weeks entry, and once again I dive into the Flickr Account of coconv. This ad is for the 1971 Ford Maverick Grabber (one of my Obscure Muscle Cars…) The image shows a beautiful young couple in Scuba Gear standing next to a lake or the shore. I have no idea as to what the advertising department was going for with this particular image, but the tag line (that I kept in the picture on purpose) states "and a little more jazz". While I like the 1970's imagery, and use it quite often here on the Classic Caption Postings, I'm still stumped as to what this is suppose to say to potential customers. Was it Young and Hip? Was it daring? Was it just lame? Why don't you try and come up with a great tag line of your own, and see if you can make sense of this ad image. (You can see a larger image by clicking here)
You have the next five days to come up with a great caption. The editors will deliberate on the merits of each entry, and after contemplating our own caption, and we will pronounce a winner. So, get to work and create you're own caption for this very puzzling image.
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Sunday, May 23, 2010
The Latest Virus
Many seem to be affected more on one particular day known as Zaterdag in Dutch. On this day, people, the majority of whom seem to be women, are compelled to devote their day to making Klosjes. The effect of Klosje Fever causes you to forget all your promises and resolutions about starting new things. Your fingers begin to itch. You find yourself digging through your supplies and, before you know it, you have one in your hands. One Klosje leads to another and another.
It seems that I have also been afflicted by Klosje Fever. Those cute little Klosjes find their way into your brain, your heart and very quickly, your hands. Before I knew it, I too was spending my Saturday working on them.
For more information regarding Klosjes, go to Valentina's Corner.
My stash report for Week 21:
Used this week: .25 M (for Klosjes)
Used Year to Date: 17.8 M
Added this week: 0 M
Added Year to Date: 12.07M
Net used for 2010: 5.73 M
Check Judy's blog to see what everyone else has reported this week.
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LOL--I had to search for Klosjes--what fun!ReplyDelete
I've seen these around and they do look like fun. I think my anti-virus program is working so far. Hope you have lots of fun and a good looking quilt before you are cured.ReplyDelete
Oh, Edna, I am still trying for a cure, but to no avail, I am getting close to 300 Klosjes, and feel that it is just now getting GOOOOD! :)ReplyDelete
Can't wait to see them!
Oh, that's too funny!ReplyDelete
Have fun with your latest form of insanity - I'll be cheering you on from here!
Enjoy your Klosje Fever Edna! I won't be catching it right now... 8-)ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMay 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM
Hello Edna, ahh so that is what is wrong with me...grin....Regards Lyn enjoyed your postReplyDelete
I enjoy hearing what you have to say and try to respond to any questions. Please be sure I have a way to contact you. If you are set to 'no-reply' I have no way to respond. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts!!


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A well-planned party seems to run flawlessly. Drinks flow, food is served and cleared away, and there never seems to be any mess! Creating a smooth-running event is more than just arriving with food and drink –there is a fair bit of science behind a fabulous party! When a caterer asks you a lot of questions before giving you a full estimate, it is because they are trying to determine all the variables in the "party equation." This way, they can determine the perfect menu and amount of items needed to send to your party to make your event a success!
Finding a Caterer
The ideal way to find a caterer is through personal recommendation. Ask friends, family and colleagues who they've used. Also, If you like the catering services at the office, ask if they will do other private events. If your party is large, using an Event Planner may be the logical way to get a handle on things.
Its a good idea to find a caterer that is familiar with the venue you've booked. They can be a great help in explaining the particular logistics of the space. This is vital to insuring your event is successful on all levels. The venue you've chosen may have a preferred caterers list which is a good place to start your search.
Lastly, pick a caterer that shops where you shop. If you have a favorite butcher or cheese shop, ask if there are catering companies that buy from them. In the end, you cant make great food with out great ingredients.
This might seem daunting, but it is the most important first step in creating your menu. Have some sort of budget in mind before approaching your caterer. Menus come in all price ranges and knowing your budget will help your caterer fit a menu to your event.
Buffet vs. Plated Dinner
A buffet or food stations are typically less expensive than a sit down dinner, but this depends on the menu choices and the level of service required. Food can be served cold, hot in chafing dishes or prepared on site by station Chefs.
Sit-down dinners require having Chefs on site to prepare and plate your meal as well as additional staff to serve all of your guests at the same time. The food for plated meals requires one or more ovens on site to ensure that all of the food is served hot and in a timely manner
Cocktail Reception
Cocktail receptions are perfect for any occasion, at any time of the day. Bite sized hors d'oeuvres and elegant platters can bridge the gap between meals or be substantial enough to be your main meal, including breakfast!
Estimate 2 – 3 bites per person before dinner, 5– 8 bites for an early afternoon event and 7 – 14 bites in lieu of a traditional dinner.
Event Planning
What do you expect from your caterer? Do you just want to have food delivered to you or do you require help in planning your annual summer soirée or perfect wedding? Be very clear what your expectations are and what you may need assistance with.
Most caterers offer "tastings" for large staffed events. Once you have confirmed the booking of your event with a deposit, most caterers will not charge for this service. If you are just shopping around you should expect to pay.