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Filmaster for iPhone to be the Foursquare of film
Posted by Reza Malayeri Categories: Entertainment, New Apps, Free Apps,
Filmaster is a brand new application that was released at SXSW this year. The app is developed by a Polish development team, and their aim is to position Filmaster as the "Foursquare of film". Filmaster is a free application in the app store, and it offers lots of features for movie goers around the globe. The main idea of the app is to recommend films based on users likes and preferences, and allow them to interact with their friends and fellow movie goers. Some of the Filmaster features listed on the App Store include:
- Personalized movie recommendations in your area
- Check into screenings, and see who's sitting next to you
- Find film buffs with similar tastes where you live
- Manage your personal film collection, and your wish list
There are many more features of Filmaster on the app store for you to explore, so head on over and check out this awesome new app. Filmaster promises to bring Foursquare integration, TV showtimes, and live-walls for events really soon. What do you think of apps like Filmaster and GetGlue? Do you check into TV shows with IntoNow? Let us know what you think in the comments below.
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TiVo iPad app now available
Posted by Andru Edwards Categories: Entertainment, iPad Apps, New Apps, Free Apps,
TiVo on Tuesday unveiled an iPad app that will allow TiVo Premiere owners to use their Apple tablet as a remote and TV guide.
The TiVo Premiere App for the iPad provides access to all the content available on the set-top box - from TV listings and your DVR queue to show information and social-networking link-ups.
The app will provide access to live TV and DVR recordings; to watch, just swipe and the show will start playing on the TV. When you're away, use the app to set up a TiVo recording.
The bottom menu includes several options, including Info, Guide, My Shows, Browse, and Manage. For more info about a show or celebrity, the TiVo app lets you explore biographical information without interuppting the show on the TV. To discuss what you're watching, the app provides a link to Twitter and Facebook.
There is also an advanced remote icon, which brings up a traditional remote interface. Slide your finger along the bottom of the screen to fast forward or rewind TV content.
To access, download the free app from the App Store and enter the key from your TiVo box. Users must have a TiVo Premiere or TiVo Premiere XL box and an active, paid TiVo subscription.
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Game Dev Story Developers Release The Game Dealer In Japan
Posted by Drea Avellan Categories: Games, New Apps,
Game Dev Story addicts, it's time to get out of rehab because a new
supplier dealer is in town. Kairosoft, the developers of the very popular and addictive Game Dev Story, have released a new game in Japan called Waiwai! The Game Dealer. After spending many sprints making those pirate and ninja games, you want people to play them, right? Well, Waiwai! The Game Dealer is here to do just that. This game is all about managing a video game store.You'll also get your hands on the video game stock trade and even the sell yummy snacks. A simple premise which promises many hours of addictive gameplay. Localization to the U.S. has not been confirmed, but we sure do hope it happens soon.
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Coke Zero releases first location based game, LiveCycle
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Who knew Coke Zero would be in the forefront of gaming innovation? Last week, Coca-Cola released "the first ever location-based videogame" called LiveCycle.
LiveCyle is based on Disney's TRON: Legacy film and the premise of the game is to move around the real world real to create a Light Wall and derezz your opponents, and avoid being derezzed by theirs. The Coke Zero websites offers a trailer of the game which makes it seem like a pretty fun idea, though there is a lack of actually gameplay. Real gaming innovation or interactive advertising? You decide! Play the game and let us know in the comments!
Live Cycle is available in the iTunes stores for the low, low price of $0.00. Download it here.
Rock Band Reloaded Review
Posted by Drea Avellan Categories: Games, iPad Apps, New Apps, Reviews, Electronic Arts, $4.99,
Traveling the world has always been a lifetime goal of mine. However, with so many remote places to visit, bringing a console along to play videogames is out of the question. Thankfully, Electronic Arts (EA) has releases their second installment of Rock Band for both iPhone and iPad platforms called Rock Band Reloaded. Singing along to some of my favorite songs while climbing the top of a mountain anywhere in the world is now a very possible scenario!
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Google Voice app finally approved, appears in the App Store
Posted by Patrick Lambert Categories: Productivity, App Store News, New Apps, Free Apps,
Google Voice is a popular service within the US, providing a single phone number to anyone which can then connect to land lines or cellphones, offers visual voice mail, forwarding, SMS, and more. Up until now, it's been easily integrated only on Android devices, while people wanting to access the service on the iPhone were left out in the cold, until a few third-party apps started appearing last month. In fact, Apple famously denied (or rather, "didn't approve") the Google Voice app back in 2009, and it's been sitting there in the App Store review queue for 16 months. However, things changed today when the official Google Voice app was finally made available in the App Store. From it, you can make free calls using the service, access your voicemail, send and receive SMS for free, and more. Of course since this service is only available in the US, so is the app. You need to setup a Google Voice account to use it, but both that and the app itself, are free.
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Skyfire brings Flash video to the iPhone
Posted by Patrick Lambert Categories: Utilities, New Apps, $2.99,
The Skyfire browser is now fully available in the App Store, and promises to bring Flash video to the iPhone. The browser actually has a server side component which converts any Flash video on the fly before sending it on to your device, which allows it to display Flash videos converted to a format the Apple device understands. However, it seems that the company underestimated the demand for Flash videos from iOS users, since mere hours after the app went live, it was pulled from the App Store. It seems those troubles have disappeared though, and in use the app performs quite nicely. If you're looking for a way to view Flash video across the Internet in your browser, check out the Skyfire browser for iPhone, available for $2.99.
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Posterous iPhone app now available
Posted by Andru Edwards Categories: Social Networking, New Apps, Free Apps,
One of our favorite social sharing and blog sites, Posterous, just released their official iPhone app today. Focusing on being the only app you'll need to share everyone online to all your favorite sites (think Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Flickr, and the like,) you can download the Posterous app now for free.
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Bartleby's Book of Buttons now available for iPad
Posted by Andru Edwards Categories: Books, iPad Apps, New Apps, $4.99,
Hey, all you iPad-owning parents out there, if you are looking for a children's storybook that does more than just read aloud to your kids, you've gotta check out Bartleby's Book of Buttons Vol. 1: The Far Away Island. What makes this different enough to warrant our excitement? Well, we've been playing with it since it's been in beta, and it's just fun for kids…and to be honest, even fun for an adult to go through once or twice. It's a case study for how you can take books, and do them differently on the iPad, providing a fun, interactive experience for kids and parents to share together. Each chapter of the book is a puzzle that follows the story, but to get to the next chapter, you must first solve the puzzle. Each puzzle that you solve "unlocks" that chapter in the table of contents, so you can skip to any unlocked chapter from the beginning.
The puzzles aren't hard, but for a little child it might take them a minute or two of playing with the page to figure it out, which is great to see. We've got a Bartleby Book of Buttons gallery that shows you a page from each chapter, to give you an idea of what we mean. But seriously, if you have a child between the ages of, say, 5-10, we don't see how you can go wrong. Bartleby's Book of Buttons Vol. 1 is available now on the App Store for $4.99.
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OmniFocus for iPad finally released, worth the wait
Posted by Andru Edwards Categories: Productivity, iPad Apps, New Apps, Above $10,
The good folks over at The Omni Group make what many consider to be the definitive GTD and task management app out there in OmniFocus. We use it with great regularity on the Mac desktop, and snapped it up immediately as soon as OmniFocus for iPhone was released. When the iPad launched, the one app that we knew we wanted was a native OmniFocus client. The Omni Group said they'd release it when it was done, opting to go feature complete rather than releasing a bare bones version and updating it incrementally with new features. Well, today OmniFocus for iPad launched, and we've gotta say, it's impressive.
Like OmniFocus on iPhone, the app is location-aware, meaning that you can have it tell you what tasks on your list can be completed nearby, wherever you are. New to the app are a new streamlined task review mode, a Map feature, task forcasting, and more. Here's the main feature list:
- Quick Entry for fast, easy task capture
- Task inbox where items can be stored for future processing
- Detailed task options like start and due dates, repeating schedules, and audio note and photo attachments
- Organize tasks into projects and folders, with as much hierarchy as is needed
- Categorize and view tasks by contexts, or work modes (ie, "Phone" for all phone call-related to-dos)
- Subtasks, for breaking large tasks into manageable steps
- Built-in search for locating any task in your database
- Cloud sync: synchronize with OmniFocus for Mac and OmniFocus for iPhone
- Location-based contexts: the Map makes it easy to generate and view tasks based on current or assigned locations
- Forecasts: see a weekly or daily view of all due tasks
- Built-in reviewing that helps you stay current on all your projects
The app sells for $39.99, so it definitely isn't an impulse buy. However, if you are looking for an app that will keep you on top of everything in your work and home life, and sync between iPad, iPhone, and Mac desktop, we can't recommend OmniFocus enough. It's available now in the App Store.
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No parent wants to see their sports-loving child sitting on the sidelines, but knee injuries put thousands of young athletes on the bench every year. It's not unusual for kids to fracture, sprain, strain, or dislocate the knee joint while playing on the field or just goofing around with friends.
Most kids just need a few days or weeks of rest to recover from a knee injury. Severe cases can require surgery and a longer recovery before kids are walking again and back on the playing field.
To understand how injuries happen, it helps to know how the knee works. The knee is the largest joint in the body; it provides stability and allows the legs to bend, swivel, and straighten.
The knee joint is at the ends of the femur (thighbone) and the tibia (shinbone); it is protected by the patella (kneecap). The ends of the femur and tibia and the back of the patella are covered in articular cartilage, which acts as a cushion to keep the femur, patella, and tibia from grinding against each other. On the top of the tibia, extra pads of cartilage called menisci help absorb the body's weight. Each knee has two menisci — the inside (medial) meniscus and the outside (lateral) meniscus.
The muscles around the knee include the quadriceps, a large muscle at the front of the thigh, and the hamstring, located at the back of the thigh. The quadriceps help straighten the leg and the hamstring helps bend the knee.
Several tendons — cables of strong tissue that connect muscles to bones — work together to help move the knee. The tendons in the knee are the quadriceps tendon, the patellar tendon, and the hamstring tendons. All work together to allow the leg to extend.
Ligaments are cables of strong tissue that connect bones to bones. The four main ligaments in the knee that help connect the femur to the tibia and keep the knees stable are:
Because the knee is such a complex joint with many moving parts, knee injuries are quite common. Frequent causes of injuries are overuse (from repetitive motions, as in many sports), sudden stops or twists, or direct blows to the knee.
Common injuries among kids include:
Knee sprains usually involve damage to the ACL and/or MCL. The most serious sprains involve complete tears of one or more of the knee ligaments. Symptoms of knee sprains include:
A strain happens when a child partially or completely tears a muscle or tendon. With knee strains, kids may have bruising around the knee in addition to the symptoms mentioned above for sprains.
Tendonitis happens when a tendon gets irritated or inflamed. It is often caused by overuse or poor training (such as lack of strength exercises or stretching). A child with tendonitis might have pain or tenderness when walking or at rest, or when bending, extending, or lifting a leg.
Damage to the menisci is a very common sports injury, especially in sports where kids have sudden changes in speed or make side-to-side movements. Meniscal injuries can occur together with severe sprains, especially those involving the ACL. Meniscal injuries can cause tenderness, tightness, and swelling around the front of the knee. Sometimes fluid collects around the knee (known as effusion).
A fracture is a cracked, broken, or shattered bone. Kids may have trouble moving the bone and are likely to have a lot of pain. Patellar dislocation happens when the patella is knocked off to the side of the knee joint, by twisting or some kind of impact. Sometimes it will go back to its normal position by itself, but usually needs to be put back in place by a doctor. Symptoms include swelling and pain in the front of the knee, an abnormal bulge on the side of the knee, and inability to walk on the leg with the affected knee.
Sometimes a small piece of bone or articular cartilage softens and/or breaks off from the end of a bone, causing long-term knee pain. This is called osteochondritis dissecans(OCD). Symptoms include pain; swelling; an inability to move the joint; and stiffness, catching ("locked knee"), or popping sensations with knee movement.
Chondromalacia pattellae happens when the cartilage in the patella softens because of injury, muscle weakness, or overuse, and the patella and the thighbone may rub together. This causes pain and aching, especially when a person walks up stairs or hills.
A bursa is a sac filled with fluid located over a bony prominence to prevent friction. If a bursa in the knee becomes inflamed and swollen from overuse or constant friction, it can develop into a condition called bursitis. Symptoms of bursitis in the knee include warmth, tenderness, swelling, and pain on the front of the kneecap.
Osgood-Schlatter disease is a painful disorder caused by repetitive stress on the front end of the tibia where the patellar tendon connects to the bone. Most common in athletes 10 to 15 years old, its symptoms include a bump below the knee joint that's painful to the touch and painful with activity. Pain is relieved with rest.
Most knee exams involve lying down flat on a table while the doctor manipulates the knee to see how stable it is and if any part of the joint hyperextends or dislocates.
Imaging tests (like an MRI, X-ray, or CAT scan) also might be done to confirm a knee injury and determine its severity.
Any child with a knee injury should rest the knee as much as possible.
Immediately after the injury, apply ice to the area for 20-minute intervals to reduce swelling and use compression bandages to help stabilize the knee. Do not let the child bear weight on the knee, and elevate the leg (above the heart) on pillows or other soft objects to reduce pain and swelling.
Doctors call this method of treatment RICE:
The doctor might prescribe anti-inflammatory medication if your child has severe inflammation and pain.
After initial treatment, some kids may wear a knee immobilizer (a brace or a sleeve that's wrapped around the leg to keep it from moving too much) or a cast for a few weeks while the knee heals, and might need to use crutches to get around.
More serious knee injuries can require surgery to reconstruct the knee if the child has torn ligaments or tendons or bone fractures.
During arthroscopy (a minimally invasive surgical technique) surgeons make a small opening in the knee and insert an arthroscope, a tiny tube-like tool, into the joint. The arthroscope has a lighted video camera on the end that is wired to a TV screen to give the surgeon a magnified view while operating.
Most of the time, the doctor is able to fix the problem during an arthroscopy. But if the injury is too complex, the surgeon will have to switch to "open" surgery, which requires a larger incision to see the area with the naked eye.
Regardless of whether a child has arthroscopy or a traditional open surgical procedure for a knee injury, the recovery period will be several weeks to a couple of months.
Most kids who recover from a knee injury will need some sort of rehabilitation ("rehab") therapy to help heal the knee and to:
Most kids undergo rehab at a center three times a week, with daily exercises they practice at home. Accelerated rehab programs require more frequent therapy and speed up recovery to 4 to 6 months.
While most sports are off limits — especially the one that caused the injury in the first place — kids can do some low-impact activities that may be fun and even therapeutic, like swimming, bike riding, or protected running. Talk to your doctor about which of these might benefit your child and when normal activities can be resumed.
Preventing knee injuries is a lot less painful and a lot less hassle than undergoing surgery.
If your kids play sports, be sure they always wear appropriate protective equipment during practices and competitions. Kneepads and shin guards (as well as helmets and other protective gear) will help prevent injury. Also be sure that they wear supportive shoes that are in good condition and appropriate for the sport.
More tips for avoiding sports injuries:
Reviewed by: Alfred Atanda Jr., MD
Date reviewed: October 2012
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KDE 3.3 Usability Study and Review
Celebrating one month of KDE 3.3 out in the wild, userinstinct put together a usability review with user testing. "Based on feedback from our test group, the default settings for a number of KDE parameters differ from what is usually expected and desired by users. Providing better defaults would reduce the time users spend looking for configuration settings and would provide a better "out-of-the-box" experience."
Re: What do we want?
And how exactly would "Would you like to save your passwords? Yes/No" get in your way??
The problem, let me repeat, is that KWallet assumes you want to use it, not that it exists.
By ac at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
So, what we can gather from this:
1) Show asterisk when typing the password
2) Antialias by default. And that means getting rid of Helvetica (Good riddance!)
3) Tone down Kwallet
4) Reduce the number of configuration-options (note: this does NOT mean reduction in configurability!)
Those four seemed to be repeated over and over again.
By Janne at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
It would be nice if the konqi-plugin "archive web page"
By Asokan at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
I think you missed the most obvious and glaring problem that came up again and again, and would cause a person to not use KDE.
Things didn't work. Applications crashed.
Usability issues are difficult to get right, but in the end we learn another way of doing things. But when applications don't work, or crash, or don't render properly, we don't use them. We can't.
The anti-alias default being off is a legacy of flakey aa from just a short time ago. It was unreliable. It isn't any more, so it makes sense to enable by default.
By Derek Kite at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
Of course non-finctioning apps are a problem. But IMO they should be handled separately from mere look 'n feel issues and usability of the apps (UI-wise).
One of the pet peeves I have had with KDE (well, this is a minor issue, but it's annoying) is how some configuration-windows are too small (or more likely: the configuration-windows are just crammed full of stuff). I mean that they are so small that I have to scroll around them, or (preferrably) make the window manually bigger. Things like that leave a bad taste in the users mouth and make the whole environment seem unpolished. I'm planning to document where I encounter them and report in in the mailinglist.
Apps not working is a problem. However, 3.2.3 was rock-solid for me. 3.3 has some hiccups (most notably Kontact) stabilitywise. I assume things will get better with 3.3.1 and beyond.
By Janne at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
>Of course non-functioning apps are a problem. But...
Non functioning applications prevent the user from doing anything. Non functioning apps also include network daemons that are not configured yet pop up warnings or take screen real estate. Non functioning apps also mean unusable with keyboard only. Or with a screen reader.
Form follows function. A well designed application that assumes reasonable defaults, detects all detectable configuration options, works as designed and as expected, has some thought put into various modes of usage, ie keyboard, mouse, screen reader, will be by all accounts usable.
By Derek Kite at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
Well, I concentrated mainly on the UI-issues. Of course non-functional software has pretty crappy usability since it doesn't work ;). But I think that some of the application-problems they encountered are not due to KDE itself. I mean, I have very little problems with KDE. Just about only problems with non-functioning apps I have in 3.3 are Kontact (that crashes on me) and Amarok (But I use a beta-version).
I do agree with you 100% about form following function.
By Janne at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
4) Reduce the number of configuration-options (note: this does
Yeah baby! Configuration based on thought-user-interface is the way to go!
Seriously, some options make sense, a few ones don't and can be chopped out
By the way... the example about tabs... there was a different study referred by KDE about this:
So, you use icons with a scrollbar and people do not figure it out. You use tabs, but if you put more that four or five it sucks. IE/OE/MSWord config sucks for me, and those aren't the worst.
Is SO HARD to learn what a scrollbar is, what it means, what is does, how it works?
Sorry about the rant, but there is no gain in doing all this usability thing when you simply ignore the fact that you work for users that doesn't think, doesn't care about learn and doesn't care about nothing. They do not worth the effort.
Then, make people understand they should learn a bit for their own good if they want to use computers, or let people use Gnome version 2.dumb or whatever else.
Spend your effort working for people willing to learn. Keep Kandalf's tips.
But, again... if the effort is made, make it worthy.
By Shulai at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
"And that means getting rid of Helvetica"
I wish we could. But what other sans serif fonts are guaranteed to be available on the user's system. The only alternative I can see is to make Bitstream Vera a required dependency (as I don't see Luxi being much better than Helvetica).
What we really need though is the ability to specify alternative fonts, like we do in HTML. That way we can specify Vera Sans, and if it isn't present drop down to a generic helvetic font.
By Brandybuck at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
> The only alternative I can see is to make Bitstream Vera a required dependency
Bitstream Vera has not very good international glyph support.
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
Qt will get the required glyphs from other fonts, no? I'm not very experienced with non-latin1, sorry.
By anon at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
Even if it would work, how ugly would look it like?
By Anonymous at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
Certainly not as bad as (unanti)aliased Helvetica. ;)
By Gábor Lehel at Thu, 2004/09/23 - 5:00am
Re: So, what we can gather from this:
I never got what people want out of configuration panels. Let's talk specifics. Take a dialog you hate, draw it up in gimp or whatever. What, do you want only 6 options in a panel at a time? More is "overwhelming?" These vague statements like, "it's too much, change it" don't get anything productive done. Give other workable solutions. Only then can a programmer at least have an idea what's wanted.
Like, is there supposed to be a newbie options panel, then an advanced options one? That way you don't have to look at the advanced one? What happens when you want to change one thing that's on the advanced panel, complain that it needs to be moved? Personally, I consult the help, explore around to find something that might change whatever I'm looking to change. Likewise, if the help is lacking, how about helping (pun intended) out with some better docs as you navigate around finding the setting you wanted in the first place.
By JCorey at Sun, 2004/09/26 - 5:00am
1. Usability is there
2. Interface consistency is there
What I think it over mayor importance
Example 1:
Why not just telling that the tool is for the translation of KDE applications and other apps that use the Po-Fileformat standard.
"KHangMan is a game based on the well-known hangman game."
Inconsistency in naming:
Kmail - intro:
"The KMail Team welcomes you to KMail, a user-friendly email client for the K Desktop Environment. Our goal is to make KMail a program that is beautiful and intuitive without sacrificing power.
If you have never set up an email client on a UNIX® system before, we suggest that you read through the Getting Started section first so that your setup goes smoothly..."
here: other text style, more personal.
"Since most people do not read documentation anyway, here is a collection of the most helpful tips:"
---> Perhaps because most of the documentations are not written in a user-friendly way.
Although KMail can be considered reliable you should keep backups of your messages, i.e. just copy the files and folders in ~/Mail (including the hidden ones that start with a dot) to a safe place.
---> "safe place??"
KMail's homepage can be found at http://kmail.kde.org. There you will find useful links, e.g. to the user and developer mailing lists. Please report bugs in KMail using Help->Report Bug...."
---> sounds as if Kmail was very buggy and users shall ask questions at the developer's list.
By Gerd at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Usability
sounds as if Kmail was very buggy and users shall ask questions at
On the other hand, Microsoft users do not get suggestions as this. They just see their apps and their entire system crashing all the time! :-P
By Shulai at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Usability
kmail is fine to pronounce by most english speakers.. perhaps not in $YOUR_LANGUAGE_HERE, which is why it's good to tone down application names and instead use descriptions more.
By anon at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Usability
Well, in fact K is a consonant.
E in Email is a vocal. Who cares about English speakers? In most languages a consonant K + another consonant M is bad naming.
Ask a linguist for advice.
By Jan at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Usability
But all older KDE applications are named like the scheme K-App and there should be pronounce that way (K-App) too (for examples: KControl, KWord, even KOffice is made so.)
The K is supposed to symbolize KDE.
Have a nice day!
By Nicolas Goutte at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Usability
Why when do we talk about usability we put the example for the most stupid imaginable person? For that person it is imposible to make something easy.
For that person even a remote control with 2 buttons is complex
-what is a channel? Do I need to know what a channel is?
And if in the remote control you put attached the channel explanation, there will be people who will come and post that's too much complicated because there will be stupids who do not want to read.
No silver bullet for dumbs, they have too much imagination.
By peroxid at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Usability
I have been using KDE for 2 years.
My best wishes devians
By devians at Fri, 2004/09/24 - 5:00am
I'm sorry, but renaming KMail to "Kamel" must be THE worst suggestion in this entire discussion!
By Martin at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel?
I second that.
What I'd like to see is some widgets for X.org's soft shadows and true transparency. It would be awesome, if I could choose how the transparency will be used (like all windows are transparent, or all but the focused window are transparent, or the focused window is less transparent than the others). That would be cool, and useful also.
By Jouni H. at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel?
Re: Kamel?
If I understood right, that program can't handle different functions of the effects, like transparency only on windows with no focus. Anyway, we need to get that program to KDE 3.3.1. I hope it's stable by then.
By Jouni H. at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel? It's a homophone ...
of a somewhat famous cigarette brand.
By Christopher Sawtell at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel? It's a homophone ...
It is difficult to pronounce
Kmail - two consonants
I don't know a word that starts with "Km"
"Kamel" is Camel in some languages.
By gerd at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
""Kamel" is Camel in some languages."
And in some languages, KMail is easy to pronounce. The name derives from E-mail, so actually it's not Kmail, but K-Mail (keimeil, is that so difficult afterall?), but it's easier to write KMail. It's logical. What do Camels have in common with electronic mail anyway?
By Jouni H. at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel? a good proposal
Two consonants in naming, that's bad.
Look in a dictionary how many words start with "km". From a linguistic perspectiv is it a very good suggestion.
By Jan at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel? a good proposal
As I stated before, it's actually K-Mail (keimeil). That's why it's written with two capital letters (KMail). See? Like HQ, MReal or S-word. So the K is not part of the rest of the word. I hope you understand. It's very easy to pronounce, if you just really try it.
By Jouni H. at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Kamel?
Then we'll be seeing complaints, "What's this Kamel program? Help me manage my camel farms or something? I'm not a camel farmer! You will never get anywhere in this world until you acomodate me!!"
By JCorey at Sun, 2004/09/26 - 5:00am
KOffice, KDE Control Center
"New document wizards in office applications should select new 'blank document' by default"
I think that is true. I never understood why KOffice always opens this initial dialog when starting a KOffice application. This dialog doesn't make things noticeable easier or faster for the user, but it makes things different from all the other office suites, be it OpenOffice or MS Office.
"The KDE Control Center (or 'KDE Control Cente' as the title says) is packed with numerous settings."
Wouldn't it make sense to offer the options "Simple", "Normal", "Expert" in the toolbar of the control center? This way the dialogs within the center can be designed for respective type of user.
Anyways, thanks for the great piece of software that KDE is.
Re: KOffice, KDE Control Center
> I never understood why KOffice always opens this initial dialog when starting a KOffice application.
But above request doesn't say that there should be no wizard/dialog at all?
> Wouldn't it make sense to offer the options "Simple", "Normal", "Expert" in the toolbar of the control center?
No as everyone as different expectation what is expert and what not.
Re: KOffice, KDE Control Center
I didn't get the KOffice startup dialog either, at first. It's part of a long tradition, though. Even back in the MS-Dos days there were application that couldn't show you anything unless you had either selected a file, or created a new one. I really hated those applications.
However, in the current KOffice CVS things are a lot better. The initial dialog now remembers which page you used last, which means it adapts to the way you work. If you mostly work with a small set of files -- say, a writing project or some set of images for a single publication, you get those in the recent files tab. If you tend to create new documents, that's what you get shown first. Moreover, the dialog remembers your last choice _and_ you can tell it to always use the selected template.
So, if you start a KOffice application for the first time, you select 'empty document with no frills', check the checkbox, and then whenever you start a KOffice app (without specifying a file to load), you get your wish. Empty document of the type you prefer.
By Boudewijn Rempt at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Similar experiences
I have only just started using Linux recently, and I agree with the conclusion of the review.
I know its dull from a development perspective, but KDE needs to concentrate less on the features and more on the fine tuning.
Often the issues are things which would be so easy to correct too. For example, it really is confusing have 3 "Configure" items in the menu, when I will virtually only ever use one.
The default KDE font has a slighly comic "kids" look. I realise that the MS fonts cannot be used for legal reasons, but there must be very similar OSS fonts, especially for Tahoma.
By Robert Knight at Tue, 2004/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Similar experiences
So KDE should concentrate on the fine tuning, but what's "fine tuning" in your case? One's improvement ("fine tuning") to a particular feature making it really useable for him may well look like yet another useless feature to another person who never used it.
Your "easy to correct" example is an excellent case to show this: The multiple configure entries all handle different settings, one for keyboard shortcuts, one for toolbar setup and one for apps specific settings. All of the KDE applications have them in a consistent way when they need them, so it's easy to memorize and pick up when needed for the user. If all of those settings were crammed into one single interface (like KControl) it would be way harder for users to customize the basic interface features of KDE applications.
Re: Similar experiences
@Datschge: In your analysis, you leave out the constraint of optimizing for the common case. Every item in every menu is a mental burden on your user. That's one more thing they have to skim through when reading the menu, and one more thing they have to account for when trying to remember where things are. If something is used rarely, it should not be put at the same level as something used commonly. It's like putting your radio's channel control on a steering wheel, along with the hood-release mechanism. When you put "Configure Shortcuts" in the same menu as "Configure Konqueror" that's what you're doing.
By Rayiner Hashem at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Similar experiences
Agreed, but as was said before moving those configure entries into the configure dialog (which often is already complex as is) doesn't help improving the case for anyone but is actually worsening it for those used to the KDE scheme. As you might have noticed already the menu where "Configure Shortcuts" and "Configure Konqueror" are located is called "Settings" for a reason. Probably the best for people not cabable of configuring applications nor of ignoring that particular menu is letting someone else do the configuration and just remove the "Settings" menu afterward, which is perfectly possible already.
Re: Similar experiences
Simple solution: Take all the 'configure' options except for Configure ... and put them in a submenu, right below Configure .
By Gábor Lehel at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Similar experiences
"I realise that the MS fonts cannot be used for legal reasons, but there must be very similar OSS fonts, especially for Tahoma."
Ah, just download the Windows fonts from http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ and quit your whining. Also, Bitstream Vera fonts are very nice, in my opinion.
By Zooplah at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
"Couldn't find graphical FTP client"
Should we have konqueror in more default flavors?
Ohh... Entering
Would that help? Or is a start up movie needed inplace of ktip?
By Roger Larsson at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
OT: Ximian... gone.
This is offtopic but go to www.ximian.com. It's no more, they've been assimilated. The page sends you to http://www.novell.com/linux/ximian.html . I never heard of this till now.
Also read the latest on Evolution 2.0. Seems a disaster:
By ac at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Yes, off topic indeed.
Why even post it here?
Re: Yes, off topic indeed.
Because he's an anti-GNOME troll. Sigh, it saddens me that he's *still* around after all these years.
By ca at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Please don't dumb down KDE.
I have been using KDE since it was in beta. I like it as it is. Please do NOT dumb it down so far that any witless fool can fool around with it and stuff it up completely. That would be totally counter-productive to advance KDE. I like and want the power-user features. I like the click features as they are.
There are two features I'd rather like:-
I really do not want the KDE development team to feel that they have to ape the Microsoft product line in the way that GNOME people seem to have done.
I'd love to see a similar report about an untainted KDE and unix user's reaction to using Windows or O/S X. :-)
By Christopher Sawtell at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Please don't dumb down KDE.
"Please do NOT dumb it down so far that any witless fool can fool around with it and stuff it up completely."
Streamiling the UI and making it more usable does NOT mean it's being "dumped down"!
"That would be totally counter-productive to advance KDE. I like and want the power-user features."
You don't have to remove one bit of the features to make it more usable. You just have to implement those features in a smarter way,
By Janne at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Please don't dumb down KDE.
How often do you print out a file that you need it in a right-click menu? Konqueror already has this in the right-click menu, and it has no place there either. Neither does half the other stuff in there (Preview in Embedded Advanced Text Editor?).
By Rayiner Hashem at Wed, 2004/09/22 - 5:00am
Re: Please don't dumb down KDE.
How often do you print out a file that you need it in a right-click menu?
Often, I would not ask for it if I would not find it very convenient!
By Christopher Sawtell at Sun, 2004/09/26 - 5:00am
"Aaargh! I can't copy stuff!"
I swipe it, it doesn't get copied, I middle-click and if I'm lucky I get stupid scroll controls, but it never pastes. Simply moving stuff around means either reverting to the keyboard or fiddling in context menus. There's no applications - I'm gunna hafta spend _hours_ downloading just to get some, and this stupid browser keeps wanting me to register or update; what's a web browser doing trying to admin a machine? And it's sooooo inconsistent; I have to run a whole separate program just to rename stuff on my web server. This MS-Windows sucks!
Good enough? (-:
By Leon Brooks at Thu, 2004/09/23 - 5:00am
A different approach
Just an idea.
After reading articles and comments on osnews and dot.kde.org maybe we should do something totally new and radically different then any other desktop environment.
No defaults at all ! Nothing. No menus, no toolbars, nothing. I am talking about a fresh install.
Just one option: Settings. A new user is forced to add features by himself. At desktop level you want Kicker, ok. choose it (checkboxes) before kde even loads up for the first time. At application level you want a print icon on Konqueror's toolbar, ok. no problem, choose it among all the other options before the Konqueror appear for the first time.
And you can later always add and remove features.
In this way we could
1.give the new users possibility to choose as many features as he/she feels suits his/hers level of experience,
2. give the new users possibility to learn much more about the desktop and applications structures.
3. satisfy all old KDE users because they already have their defaults saved (or backuped) in their .kde directories.
4. avoid all future flame wars about default settings, about too much or too less, about who is going to decide what is a default setting.
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Bart Decrem re: Desktop Elegance
Here's my official statement in response to the recent controversy over certain comments that slipped out of my mouth during a LOOOONG interview that also happened to include many positive and not-so-controversial comments about KDE. I have now switched to using KDE on a daily basis and I am really enjoying it. Thanks for the feedback and keep on hacking! :-)
Thanks, Bart
That's downright decent of you!
Have you found a better icon theme to suit your taste? On the positive side, I believe the KDE Artists will be working on making the default application icons more photo-realistic for KDE 3.1. At least your comments will give them more incentive to follow through!
By Navindra Umanee at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
By Navindra Umanee at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
He must be killing !
By aThom at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
Oh, for the love of God. EVERYONE assumes that the little panel centered in the middle of the screen at the bottom is a play on MacOS Xs panel. But those people would be and are ignorant about the fact that the CDE and FVWM (a likeness of CDE) has their panel in the center of the bottom of the screen, nad has for a hell of a lot longer than OS X has been around. Get a clue.
By Etriaph at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
And thou it looks nice it's seems extremely impractical, 2 apps in the task bar and it's full. CDE came out before the taskbar (back in the Alt-Tab days). How does OSX handle it?
By Fredrik C at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
Now THAT'S ugly
blah :/
By fler at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
Hope the icons don't get too photo realistic. Too much detail in icons make them
By Uno Engborg at Thu, 2002/05/09 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
I fully agree with you.. however i think that all the bright (impress-the-geek-chicks) collors in the more photorealistic are kewl too. So i guess its up to the art-gods to find the right balance in this area :) Btw. the Home icon is kewl IMHO :D
By kidcat at Tue, 2002/05/14 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
I fully agree with you.. however i think that all the bright (impress-the-geek-chicks) collors in the more photorealistic are kewl too. So i guess its up to the art-gods to find the right balance in this area :) Btw. the Home icon is kewl IMHO :D
By kidcat at Tue, 2002/05/14 - 5:00am
Re: Thanks, Bart
Sorry for the 2xBummer(tm).
(Is it hard to intercept a dup page and > /dev/null it? Not that I would ask anyone to spend the time on my behalf when I'm the faulty-clicking one... but others make them as well, when net is laggy/jumpy/slow)
By kidcat at Tue, 2002/05/14 - 5:00am
Validation ?
Validation results:
'Warning: No Character Encoding detected! To assure correct validation, processing, and display, it is important that the character encoding is properly labeled.'
'Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML 4.01 Transitional.'
Is it possible to fix this?
By antialias at Fri, 2002/05/10 - 5:00am
Nice reply
I think it was a nice reply, and probably something that wasn't too easy to do. Usually when you get flamed a lot you tend to get defensive and hold on to your opinion. Apparently Bart can admit that little slip and get on with it. :)
By chakie at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
His desktop now looks really butt ugly. The "W" icon is so pixelized. Slap on an QNX theme, and a iKons theme, it would be so much nicer, :-)
By Rajan R. at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
dude, I AGREE! I've asked our design team to come up with new app launcher icons. Also, I'm trying to download RH7.3 so then I can do a brand new install of KDE3 and play with more themes.
By Bart Decrem at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
you can also install themes from kde-look.org.
By Pablo Liska at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
Yeah right.
Call me a cynic, but it looks like you said it deliberately to get some
As flat as your attempts to regain face are now.
Looks "Pretty transparent" to me (which ironically is a good instruction for your "team" of designers)
By Michael at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
Give me a break dude - I'm just saying "I'm sorry".
By Bart Decrem at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
Ever gave any thoughts about things like, "growing up", and "getting a life" ?
By Guillaume Laurent at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
More than you did making that reply.
If you going to have a pop, put some decent effort into it.
The age-ist remarks are odd, perhaps you were bullied as a child by other children?
By Michael at Thu, 2002/05/09 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
geez, someone seems to be too pissed off, to accept a simple apology ...
By Carsten at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
Nope, I don't have any axe to grind.
I didn't write kde or its icons and I'm not particulary bothered whether it's ugly or not.
I can see through PR stunts though, if the rest of you can't.
By Michael at Thu, 2002/05/09 - 5:00am
Re: Now...
And betray your company's Hancom Linux?
By Rajan R. at Fri, 2002/05/10 - 5:00am
hilarious writeup
This is a downright hilarious way to 'apolgise', especially the reflection on his own appearance. I love it! It's the first thing that made me laugh since yesterday sixish.
By Matthijs Sypken... at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Ugly desktop ;-)
If you want to avoid an ugly desktop you have to take care that GTK theme (see your Gimp) matches the rest of KDE desktop. Icons on your Kicker are too muxh mixed: everaldos Crystal theme, Mozilla's redstar which is scaled to 48x48 (missing size), Gnome terminal icon doesn't go well with the rest of icons and that 'W' icon (probably Hancom Word) which is not created in 48x48 size is destroyed by scaling. Advice: no matter which icon theme you use, keep your icons consistent.
And I am curious: you are talking about a new icon theme for KDE and you say it will be beautiful. How come that we've never seen a preview of it on kde-artists mailing list? Or maybe you know something that I don't know.
By antialias at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
Thanks for all those comments. I've cleaned up some of those things already.
Re: "icon theme" I was referring to Keramik, which I've been told will be the new default look. I haven't been able to compile Keramik but the screenshots I've seen look terrific (http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=1172-1.png). I guess Keramik doesn't come with an icon theme though, but the screenshot at shttp://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=1439-3.png of a matching background, kicker background, and I guess that's the Conectiva icons, combined with Keramik will be really beautiful, in my opinion.
By Bart Decrem at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
Too me the crystall icons really suck, the only ones worse are Mandrake's! How they can produce such nice looking install, boot process and apps and then stick all those ugly icons all over the place is beyond me. I've found that going with an aqua theme in linux is about the only way to have a consistent user interface, because everyone has copied it. Much to apple's chagrin. Eric Yang produced some the most beautiful, flattering, knock offs of aqua I have ever seen. He created an enlightenment theme with a dockbar in the center that looks amazingly like a screenshot of the new imac on apple's site. Add all the various xmms, gkrellm etc. skins, kde aqua theme, and GTk aqua, and you can create one magnificient illusion. Until you fire up mozilla :(
By kbeaumont at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
Google for "Pinstripe linux".
By Lorn at Sat, 2002/09/21 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
Though even mozilla can now look aqua-like if you use the firebird browser project.
By Adrian at Tue, 2003/11/11 - 6:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
FWIW, it appears those icons are actually the default Hi-Color icons at really small sizes with alpha-blending enabled.
By Timothy R. Butler at Thu, 2002/05/09 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
but that looks fucking hideous.
But its all personal preference, so why is it being made a big deal about?
By sorry at Thu, 2002/05/09 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
Hi there. I am a newbie to linux.
By gladiator at Fri, 2003/05/09 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
i am really looking for a ugly desktop,i mean ugly with a head cutt off or a big sign that says "fuck my parents" ,if anyone has or knows a place where i can get them ,thanks in advance ,oh by the way i am really depressed now..
By julia at Sat, 2004/05/01 - 5:00am
Re: Ugly desktop ;-)
hi, i'm a newbie to linux as well. if anyone has a real nice aqua theme.. maybe by eric yang?? :-) please do mail t to me at [email protected]
By shailesh lal at Sat, 2006/05/06 - 5:00am
Brilliant marketing strategy
Ho can this guy have such a senior position in a leading linux company?
>there are fashions in product naming, and if you violate those fashions, names >sound kind of odd. There's a reason people make good money worrying about >these issues.
Recapitulating: this guy is paid a hefty amount of money to market a product, and it turns out that his marketing strategy (judging from the above post) is that of follwing the latest stupid fashion, with the result of completely hiding his product in the middle of other, similar-sounding names.
Linux companies need better leadership and better managers.
By Federico Damonte at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Brilliant marketing strategy
Don't think 'following the latest fashion'. It's more about -not ignoring- the latest fashion.
You need to look at current fashions to see what will seem like a good product name to most people (that this matters is sad, I know, but unfortunately, for the majority of people, i.e. those unaware of the issues about naming, it will). I believe the point he tries to make is that you must pay attention to what names are common and are perceived by average 'Joe User' to be that of an up-to-date product (i.e. calling a product Wibble/386 1.0 will make it sound rather archaic, calling it Wibble 98, Wibble 2000 or even Wibble 3001 will seem to be the name of a product of yesteryear to your average M$ user).
If you put your knowledge about the issues and how much/little a name/brand really counts, you should be able to look at the impressions that names generate.
For a simple exercise, take a list of current and not-so-current software package names and versions, and replace the indentifying bits of the names with gibberish (e.g. change Windows 2000 to MyWibble 2000, Linux kernel 2.1.27ac34 to FreshMash 2.1.27ac34 etc.) and then look down the list at different names, giving yourself about 1/2 a second to decide how up-to-date the product sounds.
By John Allsup at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Pretty funny - thanks for making me laugh :)
By Joergen Ramskov at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
What's the big hoopla about anyhow?
Well first off, I'd like to say I'm really pleasantly surprised by what a good sport Bart is being about all this. I mean, the fella never said anything bad about KDE except that it didn't fit into his aesthetic taste, and everybody goes batsh*t.
Seriously -- do we use KDE because it's good looking or because it's a solid and well designed environment? I, personally, came over from BeOS a couple years ago and frankly neither GNOME or KDE look or feel anywhere near as good as BeOS did. I chose KDE quickly, after attempting to port my code to gtk; frankly I found the api a bit crude, whereas QT/KDE was much more in the simple OO style of BeOS (for reference, I was able to port my BeOS programs to Qt quite quickly). I feel uncomfortable using a desktop which I can't enjoy writing code for, so the problem resolved itself.
Luckily for me, KDE looks great these days -- in fact, I don't even have the desire to port my GONX style from KDE 2 to 3 since I think light3 is fantastic (though if anybody wants GONX for kde3 I might give it a go. As far as I can tell everybody these days goes banannas over liquid and krystal and keramic, which I find distracting, childlike, and ugly, but hell: that's my opinion, and not a statement of fact). Nonetheless, it's irrelevant. Even if KDE still looked like it did when I started using it and writing code for it back in the 1.x days, I'd still love it, because it's solidly designed, well documented, and in my experience completely stable.
Anyway, I'm glad to see that this preposterous tumult has died down, but I have to say I'm saddened that it took this level of self-deprecation from Bart to make it happen. At least his "press release" is in good humor, and it seems like there are no hard feelings. Kudos to Bart!
But shame, on us.
By Shamyl Zakariya at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Creativity in diversity
----<< As far as I can tell everybody these days goes banannas over liquid and krystal and keramic, which I find distracting, childlike, and ugly, but hell: that's my opinion >>----
I think its great that people have such diverse tastes. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and KDE can cater for most tastes. I personally think Keramic Accessories ( http://apps.kde.com/uk/0/info/vid/6309 ) is stunning. Visually, KDE is going from strength to strength.
Where KDE still needs work IMO is with consistency across the desktop. Even with KDE 3.0 I find that things are not always where I logically expect to find them. I repeatedly trip over the absence of RMB cut/copy/paste for Konsole - because I habitually use it in so many other places in KDE, and GNOME, and MS Windows (which I unfortunately have to use too).
Or there are menu options I might use once in a lifetime that get in the way of other options I use frequently, The RMB menu in Konqueror for example is starting to get way too crowded. Applications (like cervisia and pixie) should park themselves under "Open with..." not directly on the first menu where they are in the way of the Properties option.
By John at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Creativity in diversity
Which makes me wonder -- how do I remove Cervisa from the konq toolbar (not RMB)? I have no doubt it's nice & useful for those who do lots of cvs work, but I don't. In fact, the few times I *have* I did it from the command line because I was too uncertain of the mechanisms to feel comfortable letting it be automated.
So, what do I do to kill/hide it?
By Shamyl Zakariya at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: What's the big hoopla about anyhow?
You know, I loved your GONX theme, being a former BeOS user. Love to see it for 3.x.
By Gabe at Wed, 2003/04/02 - 6:00am
Oh God, smileys from Kopete
This sucks. First I cannot disable those smileys I hate from Kopete, now I have to see them on here as well. Damnit. Can't we just happily use and and keep some respect for the history of the Internet?
It hurts my eyes. Please let me disable it in my user preferences. And kopete-hackers, damnit, grant me my wish and include an option to disable these headache inducers.
See, much nicer.
By Rob Kaper at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
Heh.. good thing I was too lazy to implement them optionally in Kit.
By Neil Stevens at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
Maybe they're just trying to encourage serious talk by threatening you with these damned thing.
I know I'll never use an emoticon in here again!
By Charles Samuels at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
By ac at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
Could thing LOL and ROTFL aren't replaced with illustrations automatically, isn't it?
By Sad Eagle at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
s/could/good. Having the preview button jump over the post button before posting would seem like a good feature, on other hand.
By Sad Eagle at Tue, 2002/05/07 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
what would RTFM be then?
By Sam Halliday at Sun, 2002/05/12 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
If these are being auto-generated from the post, consider useing the original chars as the alt.
By a.c. at Wed, 2002/05/08 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
No auto-generation -- I was just messing with Rob. :-)
By Navindra Umanee at Sat, 2002/05/11 - 5:00am
Re: Oh God, smileys from Kopete
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In his column "KDE: From the Source" at O'Reilly's OSDir.com George Staikos details in the current issue what is to be expected from the upcoming 3.4 version of KDE and includes a few screenshots. KDE 3.4 Alpha 1 is planned to be published within the next days.
can't wait
looks like another rock solid release to make my pc experience that much greater.
By dk at Thu, 2004/12/02 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
well, right, kde 3.4 will have some goodies (altough, will it have support for hall/d-bus/udev? I am afraid that will be seriously lacking... no automagically appearing usbstick-icons on the desktop (unless the distribution does some work) and no automatically starting of k3b/cdplayer/etc when inserting media... :( thats a pitty. and what about xorg?)
but I am more waiting for KDE 4 :D
By superstoned at Thu, 2004/12/02 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
> but I am more waiting for KDE 4 :D
I'm sure KDE 4.0 will rock, with all the waiting you do
more seriously though, why not contribute... one step at a time, a JJ after another... :)
By squared at Thu, 2004/12/02 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
ej, I'm trying to do my little best... write some doc's, answer questions, be there at KDE stands in the netherlands, report bugs, etc... but I'm no coder, I know...
Re: can't wait
"and no automatically starting of k3b/cdplayer/etc when inserting media"
I *H-A-T-E* this feature in Windows XP. It's ******* annoying.
By panzi at Thu, 2004/12/02 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
Actually it's possible to turn it off (with Powertoys, XP-Antispy or alike). Or you can press Shift while inserting a CD - but for this you may be impeached for evading a copy protection. :-)
By Anonymous at Thu, 2004/12/02 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
The word is "arrested". Impeachment could only happen if Bush did it.
By Joe at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
SUSE has this "feature" as well in 9.1 Pro. It took me a little while to figure out where to turn it off (it runs as a applet in the system tray).
By Evan "JabberWok... at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
Well, I could wait through at least two more 3.3.x bug fix releases. It would be nice if we could decide how to install the icons before 3.4.0 is released for one thing.
But about automatic playing of CD music disks.
My KDE 3.3 BRANCH install has this feature. You have to have KsCD running in the background which is optional in KDE (I presume that it isn't in Windows) and it is easy to turn on and off. There is a check box in the configure dialog for KsCD.
I still have problems playing CDs. They sound like a record that skips and nobody seems to know how to fix that. That BUG is much more important than automatic play.
By James Richard Tyrer at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
Best regards
By Joerg Zopes at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
I used to dislike this feature too, so I disabled Suse's Plugger asap, but recently I tried it out again und now I love it.
I disabled those instances I don't need or like and replaced kscd with "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement audiocd:/".
By Flitcraft at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
I agree with u, it'a a very boring feature.
By Samiel at Sat, 2004/12/04 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
"well, right, kde 3.4 will have some goodies (altough, will it have support for hall/d-bus/udev? I am afraid that will be seriously lacking... no automagically appearing usbstick-icons on the desktop (unless the distribution does some work) and no automatically starting of k3b/cdplayer/etc when inserting media... :( thats a pitty.
Hmm, kde 3.3 does all this on SuSE 9.1 :)
Dunno if they released it under a open source license though..
By rinse at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
knoppix does it too
By Pat at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
yeah, but the way they did it isn't considdered 'properly' by the kernel dev's (submount, if I'm right, or supermount (which I use) but both aren't good enough to ever make it into the kernel - udev/hall/d-bus dont have to BE in the kernel.)
its open-source code, btw (at least supermount is) but its like, well, a hack... not "the right way(TM)". So we have to wait for d-bus/hall/udev support to have it on lets say debian and slackware, who aren't willing to add such things as a hack.
Re: can't wait
SuSEPlugger watches changes to /proc (or whatever the new one in 2.6 is called) for new devices. hotplug and coldplug monitor for new hardware, automagically insert kernel modules for it, and BAM its in proc or sysfs or whatever you use. That's how that works. SuSEPlugger then just automounts it and says "Hey, dude... you got hardware." or "hey, dude... you got media" depending on whether or not its a USB device or a CD.
The way it can tell if there's a CD is the CD drive tells the kernel its got media, and the kernel modifies one of those crazy files in proc (or sysfs, yet again). SuSEPlugger then probes the disc to see if its blank, audio, or what have you, and lets u know (and, if applicable, automounts it)
There no wrong way, to eat a reeses... i mean... probe for hardware and media.
Forgive the stilted speech. I haven't slept in days...
By Aaron Krill at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
I can't stand that annoying automaticly starts media player when inserting disc, please, please don't put this in KDE !!!
By Gilles Leblanc at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
hey, I didnt like it in windoze too, and I dont really need it, but if its configurable enough, I can put it to some use :D
for example, k3b might be started if I put a cdrw into the drive. and a musiccd might be added to the playlist in amarok. a cd with a moviefile might just start playing in kaffeine, I whoulnt mind that.
Re: can't wait
The new media:/ kioslave has a HAL Backend. If HAL is found, it will be used to list backend, hence automatically listing devices upon insersion. However, this backend seriously lakes testing, so please feel free to compile it (You only need a fairly recent HAL >= 4.0, and DBus-Qt bindings from cvs)
By Jérôme Lodewyck at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
yes, but will a icon automatically appear on my desktop if I put in the usbstick? and if I connect my digital camera, will it start digikam?
If so, well, I dont think we need more. if not, well, there might be some work to do... I didnt use these kind'a functions under windows, but if I can fully configure it, well, I think it whould be usefull for me. and to newbies, it whould be usefull anyway...
Re: can't wait
If you plug your usb stick, it will get listed automatically by media:/. So if the desktop uses media:/ to list disk partitions (It used to relying on devices:/, but I am not sure if this has been changed to media:/), your usb stick should appear on the desktop.
If you plug you camera, it will also get listed and the media:/ entry will be mapped to the corresponding camera:/ url.
There is no "application autoplaying" by now, but this might be a good idea for KDE 4 !?
By Jérôme Lodewyck at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
I'm kind of also waiting for the big 4 instead of any smaller update. KDE really is a great desktop environment already but it has some small missing features. One is this difficulty to use usbstick and digital cameras, not to mention still cdrom and floppy. If you compare it to Windows, My Computer should be also in KDE. system:/ is a small replacement but still far far behind...
And other thing that I hope will be fixed soon is the icons on the desktop. At the moment it's quite difficult to organise them in straight lines and the desktop is a mess really fast if you copy anything to it.
By Big-A at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
well, imho "My Computer" is a totally braindeath concept. you can easily create a KIO slave for it, considered what is there: hard disks, cdrom drives and other media, and the config screen (??? why the heck? what has that to do with media?) and network. media:/ and locations:/ are much more logical.
by the way, the way windows works with drives (c: d: etc) is stupid. in unix this is done much more elegant: you can mount your drives anywhere.
So I certainly whouldnt want to see the "My Computer" anywhere.
By superstoned at Sun, 2004/12/05 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
OK, I agree that My Computer is stupid name and in Linux it's not very useful to show the hard disks since everyone can view the contents in the directory tree.
But using some removeable devises can be a bit difficult. Not just CDROM and Floppy which are quite well supported but the biggest problems come with digital cameras and usbsticks. IMHO there should be easier way to access these different devices, without the need to mount the devices manually...
There might be a easier way to do this, perhaps I just haven't found it yet...
By Big-A at Mon, 2004/12/06 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
well, the Locations:/ KIO slave in the upcoming kde 3.4 will fix this...
It will show (afaik) remote and local filesystems, like ftp:/, samba:/ audiocd:/ pop3:/ telnet:/ etc.
System:/ will show other KIOslaves, like (maybe) man:/ and locate:/, fish:/, settings:/, apt:/, programs:/ etc etc. (at least, this is what I imagine... and I'm sure it will be configurable!).
By superstoned at Mon, 2004/12/06 - 6:00am
Re: can't wait
My Computer is the stupidest concept since the dawn of time, and the MS implementation is even stupider. Keep it out of KDE.
By KOffice fan at Mon, 2004/12/06 - 6:00am
imap folders in filter rules/sieve
Yep, I know you can use imap folders with disconnected imap, yes you can easily setup sieve filter rules with kio_sieve but what about
Any news from Don Sanders and Marc Mutz?
Hmm, thinking about kio_sieve, a simple gui would be a nice kommander project if Marcs Sieve GUI dont get into 3.4 :-)
By Thorsten Schnebeck at Thu, 2004/12/02 - 6:00am
Re: imap folders in filter rules/sieve
I'm not doing any sieve related work currently. I am working on bug 50997 (client side imap filtering).
I have a prototype of client side imap filtering working. I still have at least one bug to track down (in the imap code) before it will be working reliably.
After that I have to test the prototype in the wild on different imap servers, measure the performance (to compare with other mail clients) and add some fault tolerance to handle unexpectedly losing the connection with the server (currently no mail should be lost but some mails may not be filtered).
Basically it's just quite time consuming. If people want to encourage me to spend more time on it, or work faster, then please see the commercial improvement system and consider making a pledge for Client side IMAP filtering.
By Don at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Looks a bit oversold
There are a few things in there that aren't really done (eg QCA isn't complete, even though the article says it is).
By Brad Hards at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Looks a bit oversold
It says it's a planned feature for inclusion. It doesn't say that it's done. If there's no intention for it to be in KDE 3.4, then it should be moved out of kdesupport anyway. That's what kdenonbeta means.
By George Staikos at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Looks a bit oversold
QCA integration is one of the things on the table for KDE 4. kdesupport is it's permanent home now. QCA will be a seperate package, like taglib, that KDE will make use of.
I think you seriously misinterpret the current use of kdesupport, but we can discuss that privately if you'd like.
By Matt Rogers at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Looks a bit oversold
QCA 1.0 is totally usable for KDE. And not just usable, but used: Kopete. :)
Not that I'm in charge of anything, but I'd say ship QCA 1 with KDE 3.4, and we can put QCA 2 with KDE 4.
By Justin Karneges at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Compatible w/Firefox?
I hope Kmail will become completely compatible with Firefox. Konq is a great file browser but it absolutely sucks as a resource robbing web browser. Setting file association to open Firefox instead of Konq is useless and I ****ing HATE the way it writes to /var/tmp/kdecache-'user' before it opens (sometimes!) Firefox. I hope 3.4 or 4.0 fixes this grave weakness.
KDE? Are you listening? Some of us HATE Konq as a browser but love it as a file browser. Please take note!
By Cougar Smith at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
Did you file bugreports or wished in bugs.kde.org? Plus, nobody forces you to use Konq as a webbrowser. Why do you complain about a choice somebody offers you for free?
By Carsten at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
No, I admit Konqueror is _still_ not at resource robbing as Firefox. But as a small hack you are free to add long while loops to the code, to get it more on par ;)
By Allan Sandfeld at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
Ok, just *HOW* can I rectify the Kde/Firefox boondoggle? I'm no programmer and although I love Kde, I will always hate Konq as a web browser.
By Cougar Smith at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
" I'm no programmer and although I love Kde, I will always hate Konq as a web browser."
You will ALWAYS hate Konqueror as a web-browser? Even if Konqueror in KDE4 would blow Firefox away? Don't make claims you cannot keep. I cannot say that "I will ALWAYS love Konqueror as a web-browser", since it's possible that Konq starts to suck in the future releases. Anything is possible.
But, to answer your question ("how to use Firefox as the default-browser instad of Konqueror?"): Control Center ==> KDE Components ==> Component Chooser ==> Web Browser ==> "Open HTTP and HTTPS URLs in the following browser" ==> Firefox
I tried that just now: I clicked a link in Kmail, and it opened in Firefox. Zero problems. Really, things like these are NOT rocket-science!
By Janne at Mon, 2004/12/06 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
You must not only associate mozilla-firefox with HTML, you must also tell KDE, that mozilla-firefox can handle urls. Replace the command line in the desktop file with "mozilla-firefox %u". Then mozilla will handle the url, not kio.
This is not a bug of KDE, but of the mozilla-firefox.desktop file.
By Moritz Moeller-... at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
this is not exactly true,
By Raghu GS at Tue, 2005/02/08 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
KControl -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser -> Web Browser-> Pick firefox.
Have a nice day, and next time, do some research in KControl before ranting about nonsense.
By Jason Keirstead at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
This post really isn't nonsense since so many people have had problems with it. Do a search on the internet for making Firefox the default browser. MozillaZine doesn't even tell you about the URL handling part. The make default browser option also does not work correctly.
By Anonymous at Wed, 2004/12/29 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
Heh, yes that is a partial solution of the problem but if only that was the end of the matter! The real problem extend beyond using another browser as the default.
If you associate html with another browser, Konq no longer functions as a browser. This isn't the desired functionality! For example a web developer may associate html with an editor/browser, but also test those pages in konq. Konq isn't good at playing both the role of internet browser and file browser -> sometimes those roles conflict. It won't happen just because I say so, but konq should be split into two seperate applications.
By John Dean at Tue, 2005/08/23 - 5:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
Sorry to be an idiot but in my component chooser i only have thw following three
email client
so how do I add web browser
using suse 9.1 and KDE 3.2.1
By John at Wed, 2005/01/12 - 6:00am
Re: Compatible w/Firefox?
indeed choosing firefox in the kde control center works, >except that the browser page remains behind the kmail screen until i click on the desktop task bar item for firefox. anyone had to deal with this one?
tom arnall
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KDE-Science Mailing list
KDE 3.4 is [ck]ool!
In meanwhile, people interested in Scientific and Professional Applications enjoy in a new mailing list called "KDE-Science".
By Daniele at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
KDE 3.4 Alpha 1
I know it's usually not wise to put Alphas onto "live" machines, but does anyone know how stable 3.4A1 is - would it be a bad idea to put it onto my main machine for day-to-day use?
By Phil Rigby at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 3.4 Alpha 1
Depends. Do you run windows at all? If you do, you're already running alpha-quality software so you may as well. :-p
By Aaron Krill at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 3.4 Alpha 1
Ooooooooooh, put those claws away!!! :-)
I love KDE, have done since I first started using it (KDE 2 some version). I find 331 to be rock solid, I'm dying to look at 3.4 but don't want all kinds of stability problems... if the general feeling is good for it, albeit an alpha, I'll try it but I don't want to regret putting it on if you know what I mean.
By Phil Rigby at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 3.4 Alpha 1
In the past i've run alphas and never had any major issues. Been doing that since 3.0 alpha 1. Heh. You could always install KDE 3.4 to a separate directory, and as a different user than you usually use. That way you can try it out without the chance of messing up your stable KDE 3.3 data.
By Aaron Krill at Fri, 2004/12/03 - 6:00am
Re: KDE 3.4 Alpha 1
Yes that's a good point, I wasn't sure if there were any ramifications of having 2 seperate KDE installs on (even if they are in seperate directories).
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