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Just received my order from you today and wanted to say thank you so much! I am very happy with the products and your service(it also arrived very quickly to Ireland!). Can't wait to order from you again :)
Warm regards,
Seán, Ireland (January 2016)
Thank you so much for our order that we opened today.
Thanks also for the little extras. My five year old was thrilled with the little clogs and we're enjoying the pictures of family 'home' in the magazine.
Everything arrived very well packed and undamaged and the shipping email updates were great.
Jonathan, United States (January 2016)
geachte maarten
hartelijke dank voor het goed verzorgde pakketje met nederlandse lekkers die we bij jullie besteld hadden...
nogmaals hartelijk dank hiervoor en tot de volgende bestelling
Martin & Vicky, Australia (August 2015)
Hallo Maarten,
Wilde even laten weten dat mijn pakket vandaag in perfecte conditie is aangekomen.
Bedankt voor de aardigheid die jullie in de doos erbij hebben gestopt!
Tot de volgende bestelling,
met vriendelijke groet,
Aart, Malaysia (August 2015)
I just wanted to say thank you for your fantastic service. The chocolates I ordered arrived today and I am absolutely delighted. I will definitely be using you in the future.
Very best wishes,
Saskia, United Kingdom (July 2015)
Shipping has improved 100%. We used to wait weeks for delivery, now it is one day!
Thanks for your good work.
Joy & Kirk, United States (May 2015)
just received my order and i am totally delighted with it! it arrived in perfect condition and love the wee presents you had for me when i opened the box!,
the keyring and wee plant is a thoughtful touch!
we go to amsterdam quite often and have fell in love with dutch products and i was delighted when i found your website and realised i could have my favourite products back home!
thank again so much! delivery was very quick! i will be ordering again at some point in the future!
Rosemary, United Kingdom (March 2015)
tot mijn grote plezier heb ik deze morgen mijn spulletjes mogen ontvangen.
ik ben onder de indruk van de snelle levering ,ik heb deze week op maandag ook iets besteld hier in de verenigde staten en de leveringsdatum is pas eind volgende week.
maandag besteld en woensdag binnen is een goede prestatie.
tot de volgende bestelling,
Met vriendelijke groet,
Dimi, United States (February 2015)
Hi Jolanda & Maarten,
Just quick mail to say many thanks for prompt and perfect delivery of my order made at week-end. Arrived here at Wednesday 1530hrs UK time.
all well packed and perfect.
thanks also for the small clompen.
will be in touch for next order shortly.
thanks and bifn.
Peter, United Kingdom (February 2015)
I was so impressed by the way you handled my delivery of the Boswandeling, I couldn't wait to finish it up so that I could place another order. I will be your customer for as long as you are in business!
Denisa, United States (February 2015)
Goede morgen allemaal,
Eventjes een e-mailtje om je laten weten dat mijn bestelling een paar minute geleden is aangekomen. Heel hartelijk bedankt daarvoor, gewoonweg een reuze service die jullie leveren. UItstekend, ben er best wel blij mee.
Louis, United Kingdom (December 2014)
To the folks at Typical Dutch Stuff,
I cannot believe how quickly my Dutch goodies arrived...I placed my order last Thursday, and today (Tuesday) the package arrived ! Everything was well-packed and arrived in perfect condition.
Thanks so much for being so efficient ! I am very pleased with the customer service at Typical Dutch Stuff and will be ordering again soon.
Thank you !
Evelyn, Germany (October 2014)
Hello Maarten & Jolanda,
Today we received the parcel (it was a surprise from my parents) Everything was wrapped very well and it was a joy to unwrap all the goodies. Thanks for the perfect handling and the cute present.
Miranda, Dublin Ireland (September 2014)
Hi Jolanda & Maarten,
Just wanted to say thank you so much for the fast delivery and the nice little keyring :-)
I have been buying peach tea from Typical Dutch Stuff, because I can't buy it in Denmark, so you will without any doubt hear from me again :-)
Best regards and thanks again for excelent service :-)
Dorthe, Denmark (September 2014)
Dear Maarten and Jolanda,
Our order has arrived!!!
We're so happy with it. I will definitely be placing further orders with you. Many thanks to you both and also for the gift of a key ring. A lovely thought.
Anne, United Kingdom (August 2014)
Maarten en Jolanda, heb net het pakket gekregen! Fantastisch, alles apart verpakt, jullie zijn helemaal geweldig! En de soepjes! En de chocolade-met-advocaat! Jullie hebben een Nederlandse met heimwee ontzettend blij gemaakt!
Ik ga zeker over een paar maanden weer bestellen!
Groetjes uit Richmond!
Jeanine, United Kingdom (July 2014)
Hoi Maarten,
Ik heb zojuist de doos met de bestelling binnengekregen. Mijn Ierse, Nederlandse en Europese collegae willen nu allemaal mijn thee gaan proeven.
Hartelijk dank voor al je moeite.
Arie, Ireland (July 2014)
Just to let you know…
Today I got this in the mail:
(Yeah, I only put one of each product on the photo)
You made a Mexican guy (and several gals ;P) very happy.
Thanks so much for your support, and keep on being awesome.
Daniel, Mexico (July 2014)
Hallo Maarten,
FF laten weten: de bestelling kwam vandaag aan, alles goed en ben zeer dankbaar. Wat een goeie verpakking zeg!
Ik houd jullie in de gaten en wens veel succes, jullie verdienen het!
Nogmaals bedankt en veel succes,
Willem, Australia (July 2014)
Hallo Typical Dutch Team,
Ik wil jullie alleen maar even laten weten dat jullie een geweldige en vooral snelle service hebben!! Heb mijn bestelling geplaatst op 13 July en pakketje is net geleverd (16 July). Het is altijd een kadootje als we onze lekkerijen weer ontvangen uit NL!!
Vriendelijke groeten,
Thérèse, USA (July 2014)
ps. bedankt voor het kleine kadootje. Keep up the awesome job!
Dear Jolanda and Maarten
Thank you so much for the prompt attention to our coffee order. We ordered Thursday night and we received it on Monday! We were delighted.
It has certainly given us confidence again to continue to order and we wish you all the very best with the business.
Thank you for the gift of the stroopwafels, too.
We saw that the package came from very near where our relatives live in Eindhoven. We are travelling to Holland again at the end of the year and we wonder if you have a store location we could visit? We would be very happy to have a photo to put on your website as "satisfied customers from Australia" if you wanted it.
We were very excited this morning as we listened to the end of the football game against Costa Rica. It was such an exciting game. We can imagine there was a lot of cheering over there.
All the best.
Nick and Bev, Australia (July 2014)
Heb net mn bestelling binnen en ik wil jullie heel erg bedanken voor t cadeautje wat er in zat . Zoooo lief en ik voel me weer n beetje thuis xx
liefs esther x, United Kingdom (July 2014)
Hallo Jolanda en Maarten.
Vandaag zeer fijne verrassing ontvangen, mijn bestelling ontvangen met de correctie van de oude bestelling van de oude eigenaar. Alles in perfecte staat. Gevolg een springende Spaanse kleinzoon die gek is van de karnemelk en fricandellen.
Heel hartelijk bedankt ook voor de attentie van de WK, waar wij ook erg mee meeleven.
Nogmaals heel hartelijk dank van een heel tevreden klant.
Ingrid, Spain (June 2014)
Hi, order arrived today and very pleased. Fish is delicious.
Mark, United Kingdom (June 2014)
Hello Maarten and Jolanda!
Just wanted to let you know that our order has arrived safe and sound in Canada! Thank you SOOOOOOO much! This is exactly what we needed to watch KNVB beat the snot out of Australia! We will be ordering from you again, GUARANTEED!
Cheers en bedankt van Canada
Sean en Chantal (Juni 2014)
Hi Jolanda & Maarten, Thank you so much for the Knapperrs gift! They're both very good! We tried them as soon as I unpacked our order. And thank you for such outstanding service - filling and shipping our order so quickly! And everything is so fresh. I couldn't be happier. You can be sure that we will order from you again. You're going to be very successful. Thank you!
Judy, USA (June 2014)
Hay Maarten Mijn bestelling kwam vandaag aan, alles perfect verpakt en de leuke verassing voor mijn dochter dat was heel leuk dat was precies wat ze met haar communie geld wou gaan kopen dus je had net zo goed 100 euro's erin kunnen doen want ze was er heel blij mee. Bedankt en groeten,
Reynout, Ireland (June 2014)
I am sooooo excited. Today I received my COMPLETE order. It's wonderful and I can't wait to eat all of it. Thank you so much. You have made my day. I wish you the best of luck. Thank you again.
Ria, USA (June 2014)
Today my first order arrived. And for a moment I re-lived my childhood, with rookworst and hagelslag and a lot of memories came back from times before I moved to Sweden. (over 40 years ago) So I just have to say Thank you guys for TypicalDuchStuff and the people behind it and you who work there. You will here from me again. =)
Johannes in Sweden (May 2014)
Just to say thank you for the lovely poffertje gift set. It arrived safely on Friday and I have to say is wonderful value for money. Excellent service!
Regards, Sue
Hi Wendy! Alles is goed aangekomen, dank je wel. En reuze bedankt voor de verjaardagskaart, dat was echt heel aardig van je. Alles is gereed voor een groot feest, het wordt vast heel gezellig. Nogmaals hartelijk dank en groetjes.
Annemieke, United Kingdom
Hi Wendy, I would just to say thank you very much for my order,it arrived this afternoon. Thank you also for the lovely gift as well. That was a very nice suprise. I have just started on the chocomel first as I couldn't wait!
Belinda, United Kingdom
Hi Wendy We hebben net heerlijke haringen gegeten.. niet te geloven zomaar hier! heel erg bedankt voor alles! (en ik ben helemaal weg van die leuke paraplu.. :) zo'n verrassing! )
Magrieta, Italy
Wou je even laten weten dat de bestelling goed is aangekomen. Wou je ook hartelijk danken voor de leuke paraplu and ballonnen. We zullen morgen zeker van de ballonnen gebruik maken!
Godelieve, UK
I've just received my order and everything is correct. Great!! Thank so much for the gifts you gave me in the box( the chocomel hot pods and the cupr houder). It's sure that I will make any other order in the future, because your dealing was really efficient. Thanks a lot
Sonia, Spain
Just to say that my order has arrived and I am very very pleased with the service and the goods that have arrived! You will hear from me soon again!
Monique, UK
Hi Wendy, Pakket net ontvangen. Fantastisch verpakt en heel blij met al de Nederlandse lekkernijen!
Tineke, UK
Gisteren mijn eerste pakket binnengekregen. Supersnel en alles in goede conditie. Genoten van het uitpakken en op 1 dag boerenkoolstamppot met hemaworst, kwekkeboom kroket, haring met ui en volkorenboterham gegeten met als toetje : DROP. MMMMMMM !!!!!!
Carolien, Austria
Hi! I just wanted to say that we received our parcel, and we're so pleased with the items! Many thanks for your wonderful service. We'll be back soon to shop some more! Kind regards,
Willemina, UK
Dear Wendy, I just want to let you know that my order arrived safety! I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!! All stuff are so LEKKER!!! Thank you so much special for present.
Anka, UK
Alles is dit keer uitstekend afgelopen. Heerlijk gegeten van de filet American en de Vla natuurlijk, hagelslag en drop.
Helena, Sweden
I just want to let you know that my order arrived safely and the VLAs and matjes were in good conditions...lekker as usual.
Didier, Germany
Net aangekomen SAFE AND WELL!!!! Jeetje zeg, impressive!!! Ik ben een beetje 'ongelofelijke thomas' en was nogal sceptisch over deze 'frozen foods' sectie, maar het kan echt. Eindelijk bitterballen in huis wanneer ik maar wil en snel!
Tot snel en nogmaals harstikke bedankt voor de goede, wat zeg ik, splendid service :-)
Sue-Ann, Spain
Just received my parcel!!!!! I'm so happy :))
That replacement chocolate you sent is absolutely heavenly delicious.... I propably have to order a whole lot more of that in the near future :)
Thank you very very much!
Suzanne, Finland
We just received our peanut butter and peanut sause, I can´t wait till the second day of Christmas to try it out. Thanks a lot Wendy for making it arrive before Christmas! Your service is great. Fijne Kerst!
Lennie & Gonzalo, Argentina
The products arrived in fresh condition and the vla tasted very well, just as I knew it in the Netherlands.
Didier, Germany
Hello Wendy. The order has arrived safely, thank you for your unique service.
Tony, UK
Just received one of your hampers for Christmas and was totally overwhelmed. My mother-in-law is dutch and we all dived into the hamper really excited. She totally regressed to her youth and found the whole thing very overwhelming. It's a fantastic present and a wonderful reminder of home. Thank you.
Johanna, UK
Good customer service, especially after a package going missing in the post! The service was most appreciated! You should set up a shop in England - it would become a pilgrammage!
Amy, UK
Delighted to find this wonderful site. Very impressed with choice available and the friendly service. A little bit of "Home from Home". Thanks.
Tanja, Ireland
Another wonderful parcel just arrived. I love these surprise parcels and the Senseo coffee variety box is lovely as well
Elise, UK
I`ve recived two orders now and haven`t been dissapointed. All items have been fab and the sweet mandarin senseo maker is outstanding, it`s amazing how much coffee a family of confirmed tea drinkers can get through!
Sarah ann, UK
Just a quick note to say that the slippers have arrived and they were the right size. Thank you ever so much for your quick response and your excellent customer service. The liquorice was a very pleasant surprise. Thank you again for everything you have done. Excellent service from start to finish.
Rob, UK
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This is a fantastic website i really miss dutch food and is so hard to come by. Well done!
Rosanna, UK
Leuk dat je dit doet! Ik verheug me op de dropjes, de appelstroop en de chocolade letters! Was ook op zoek naar Roosvicee Ferro; misschien een tip? Heb me ingehouden dit keer, maar ben erg blij deze site gevonden te hebben. I'll be back!
Tjaarda, Ireland
Excellent friendly service. Went out of your way to help me. Absolutely superb! A+
Nadia, UK
Wow!! I just got the very first surprise package and what a cornucopia of goodies it is!! From liquorice to peanut butter, all my favourites. And cookies and stroopwaffels as well!!! I hope the contents change regularly because I may order this on a monthly basis.
Elise, UK
Dear Wendy! I have received the Andre Hazes CD you sent me (Innamorato), and I am completely thrilled with the quality and beautiful music arrangement contained in this CD. I want to thank you sincerely for tracking this CD for me; I appreciated your persistence in finding it and your excellent communications skills throughout the past month encouraged me to deal with you. Again, "dankjewel" for your kindness and assistance in this matter.
Francine, Canada
Our order arrived today - oh, my Heavens, we are thrilled! It felt a little like Christmas... We can't wait to try everything, and have already dug into half of what we bought - it's delicious! Thank you!
Jacquie, United States
Just to let you know that the package arrived on Saturday morning and so was in time for the party!! Thank you so very much for all your hard work and your help. You were great!
Susan, United Kingdom
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Great & quick service. Absolutly perfect. I finally found my place to get some of those Dutch goodies that I miss living abroad. This is not the last time you hear from me. Thanks!
Maroesca, Ireland
Dear Wendy, I don´t have words to describe how happy I was when I found this web site! I am completely addicted to delicious dutch food! Just one question: Is it possible to ship Hagelslag all the way from Netherlands to Copacabana in Rio de Janeiro?
Elisa, Brazil
Brilliant service. Products and free samples are excellent as well. Will definitely be ordering again!
Elise, UK
This site is great!! When a product I ordered was no longer available, Wendy shipped me something else that was even better (and probably more expensive) in it's place. She is also looking for some special items that are not featured on the site for me. A wonderful business!! Here's to her continued success in the New Year!!
Darlene, USA
This company is absolutely wonderful and I have had no hesitation in recommending it to my friends.
Fabulous service ~ so friendly and so reliable!
Thank you xxx
Polly, United Kingdom
We were very impressed with basket contents and amazed at how full it was, the gift was for a family two adults a 12 year old and a 9 year old and we felt the contents appealed to all.
Family Clarke, United Kingdom
We were delighted with its generous contents (which will last us a long time!) as well as the basket itself, which is lovely and very practical; a lasting memory of the gift.
Family Dixon, United Kingdom
Excellent, can't recommend enough. Arrived in perfect condition. An extremely fast and friendly service.
Simon, United Kingdom
Thank you for always getting my orders out promtly. Typical Dutch Stuff is really a great place to shop with!
Margaret, United Kingdom
Typical Dutch Stuff is wonderful website, there is a huge selection of goods and the staff are very helpful! I got my order very quickly, even though I'm in a different country. I would not hesitate to order from them again! Keep up the fantastic work!
Laura, United Kingdom
You've been so great. I couldn't have asked for a more helpful customer service person. I will definitly be back for more. Thanks for everything.
Stacey, USA
I think the website is great, very jolly, user friendly.
Dominica, Germany
I am very impressed by your website, the design, layout, content, and the excellent personalized customer service that is offered.
Graham, United Kingdom
I'm very excited to find this site! My stepmother grew up in Holland and loved the Hagelslag chocolate sprinkles. She was able to fix it for me once when her parents brought back a box after one of their vacations. I'm hoping to surprise her with some for Christmas this year.
A great item, well packed and delivered quickly to me in the UK. I couldn't ask for better service. Many thanks!
Mary, UK
thank you, thank you, thank you Wendy.
I haven't had a stroopwaffel in three years!!!
That first bite will be heaven.
I'll starve myself until then because I'll probably eat a whole pack when they arrive.
Lauren, USA
I have shopped quite a lot of sites that offer Dutch items. I came accross your site by chance. You not only present the products nicely, but offer anything I could think of.I travel back and forth to Holland quite often and you will help fill the gaps with my favorites in between.
Haartelijk dank,
My boyfriend ordered me some chocs not available in England. Very impressed, fast and friendly service and well packaged. Thanks very much.
Marie, UK


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Makes 4 servings (5 cups)
Accompany this soup with a basket of crispy lime-flavored tortilla chips. You can also add a topping of shredded Cheddar cheese.
3 cups shredded rotisserie chicken, skin removed
1 (15-ounce) can cannellini beans, drained
1 (14-ounce) can reduced-sodium chicken broth
1 cup "medium" salsa verde
½ teaspoon ground cumin
Sour cream and finely chopped fresh cilantro for garnish
Combine all the ingredients, except the garnishes, in a medium saucepan over medium-high heat. When the liquid comes to a boil, reduce the heat to medium; cover and cook, stirring occasionally, for 5 minutes.
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On the bikes of my youth and quite possibly yours, I learned to pedal with a set of training wheels attached to the hub of the back wheel to keep the bike, and me, upright. I learned to pedal the bike but never felt what it was like to be truly balanced on two wheels. When the training wheels came off I wasn't really ready at all. I had to learn to balance, and quickly! - and my parents had to watch. Spoiler alert: we all survived.
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Balance bikes let a child master the balancing part - the most challenging part - of riding a bike, first. When you are coasting on a Strider bike with your feet not touching the ground it feels exactly like riding a bike. You ARE riding the bike, you're just not pedaling it. And since many children already learned to pedal on a tricycle the year before, the two skills of balancing and pedaling come together nicely after they have mastered the Strider. Several online reviews point out that if a child can walk she can ride a balance bike, so some children skip the tricycle stage altogether.
Maria Montessori observed the importance of a child developing his sense of balance. She created activities such as walking on the line to help fine-tune this sense. At MSGL the Strider is an extension of that balance exercise.
Last year, the Franklin family donated a new, dark blue Strider and now the children can have a turn to ride in half the time. That's important because learning to have a turn and to wait for a turn is one of the biggest works of preschool. The children at MSGL and their teachers have come up with an almost fool-proof system for taking turns on the Striders and all the bikes. It came to be called the "waiting bench."
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The waiting bench is right next to the bike shed which is sort of the starting line of the bike track. The first two children take the bikes out of the shed and ride them. When another friend wants a turn, he sits on the waiting bench. This signals the riders that someone is waiting for a turn so they need to consider how many more laps they will take before handing the bike off to the next friend. Sometimes the rider stops riding and negotiates with the waiter.
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Rider: 10
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Rider: How about 5? (When you're learning numbers and quantity, it's sometimes more important to pick a number you like than to negotiate for the most turns. Negotiation skills improve with experience :)
Once an agreement has been reached, the rider continues his laps while the waiter and his friends count down from 5 to 1. At the hand-off between rider and waiter, the cycle is repeated with new riders. Sometimes there are misunderstandings and an experienced child steps in to mediate. A teacher is always nearby to see what is happening and make herself available to help, if needed.
The idea of the waiting bench just sort of happened, like lots of great things happen in child-centered environments. It's possible that the teachers could have made an arbitrary rule about each child getting only 5 turns, but that would diminish the child's ability to make choices and consider the feelings of others. For example, 5-year-olds can recognize a child who is struggling with being patient and they will sometimes hand the bike over early to help this child. This leads to another cycle that I call the "Cycle of Benevolence." Benevolence is an inclination to perform kind, charitable acts. When a child sees a peer giving freely of herself to make someone else happy, it feels good. Soon, that child is looking for a way to help a friend. The cycle repeats and those kind acts and good feelings spill over into the community and, ultimately, the whole wide world.
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The area is divided by the Wabash river. To the east of the river is Lafayette and to the west is West Lafayette. Lafayette is broken down into several neighborhoods. Starting at the river and heading East is Downtown. Here you will find numerous shops and restaurants as well as most of the museums and theaters. North of downtown is the Historical Centennial Neighborhood. South of downtown is the Ninth Street Hill Neighborhood. Most of the shopping and hotels are either Downtown or along one of the main arteries. State Rd 26 runs East and West bisecting both cities. State Rd 52 curves around the East side of town and crosses the river into the Northern side of West Lafayette. On State Rd 52 near the Southeast side of town you will find the Tippecanoe Mall. Interstate 65 marks the Eastern edge of Lafayette. From South to North there are 4 exits for Lafayette, St Rd 38, St Rd 26, St Rd 25, and St Rd 43 (for West Lafayette).
The John T. Myers Pedestrian Bridge connects downtown Lafayette with West Lafayette. Starting at the river and heading west into West Lafayette is the Levee area and Wabash Landing. This area is fairly new with several shops, a multiplex theater, park, and outdoor ice skating rink. Continue west up the hill on State Rd. 26 to the Chauncey Hill and Village area. There you will find most of the college bars and several restaurants. Continue west on Hwy. 26 to pass through the main campus of Purdue University. To the North and East of Purdue is the main residential area of West Lafayette.
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By the time you hold your new baby in your arms for the first time, chances are you've already chosen one of the most important people in your little one's early life — a doctor. You and your baby will probably visit the doctor more often during the first year than at any other time.
You may have had a prenatal visit with your baby's doctor-to-be to discuss some specifics, such as when he or she will see your newborn for the first time, office hours and on-call hours, who fills in when your doctor is out of the office, and how the office handles after-hours emergencies. You may have also learned the doctor's views on certain issues.
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Your baby will be given a first bath, and the umbilical cord stump will be cleaned. Most hospitals and birthing centers provide personal instructions (and sometimes videos) to new parents that cover feeding, bathing, and other important aspects of newborn care.
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Oxygen Icons Website Launched
David Vignoni, Kenneth Wimer and Nuno Pinheiro, 3 of KDE's finest artists, are very proud to present the Oxygen website, explaining what Oxygen is and the direction it is going in. Oxygen is the new icon theme being created for KDE4. Everything started in March 2005 when a bunch of KDE contributors met in Berlin to form the Appeal Project with the goal to promote KDE related projects and to push the open source desktop to another level. Oxygen aims to bring a modern, cool and very usable and consistent icon theme, in SVG format. In addition to high quality design, Oxygen also promotes technological innovation and increased usability by proposing new file interaction methods, animated effects and the intelligent use of SVGs.
Wow, professional
I've taken a look and think these are a good balance of elegance, usability and beauty. In other words, as soon as it's done, this will be the one I use.
By Erik Hill at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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Agreed. Superb.
This thread is probably going to be a big love-fest, and deservedly so.
I couldn't be more pleased with their work. Plenty of people have talent, but it's obvious that they have really taken a rigorous and methodical approach, and their preparation is paying off.
Some earlier previews were a tad pixelated on some LCD resolutions, but even that's been refined.
By Wade Olson at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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I'll give that a boring "Me too!"
Absolutely stunning!
By Thomas Zander at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Those are the most beautiful icons I've ever seen.
By JB at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Absolutely Beautiful
Those icons rock. The colors are excellent, and the imagery is sophisticated and professional, but still fun. I can't wait until KDE 4!
By Jack Curry at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Nice icon theme, but...
I was really hoping to get more details about the other cool things about Oxygen that they have hinted at in the past.
For example, dynamic lighting effects on all icons causing a consistent "light source" to be present on the desktop. Also how are animated icons going to be used?
That said I really do like the consistent, thought-out and methodical approach taken, rather than the normal "Here's a whole lot of pretty pictures" icon design.
By ltmon at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Nice icon theme, but...
I agree on that.
After also plasma and appeal promised a "whole new desktop experience" I'ld expect something more exciting then just "new pretty pictures". It would be nice to see some of the mentioned effects like the animation and dynamic lightning effects in work, because these are to me the really new features.
For that reason I don't like the static shadow under the "actions" icon, because when lightning is used as a visual aid to tell the user what is going on, the shadows should of course follow that scheme. One could for example give the user the impression of having an icon lifted above the desktop for a drag'n'drop action and a folder opening to signal that it's selected as a possible drop target.
Well, maybe I'm a bit to impatient, but the oxygen, appeal and plasma announcments set my expectations pretty high!
Re: Nice icon theme, but...
Well that part is still under development and we dont have anything to show just yet on that department, in some time i espect to have somthing to show, this is one of the parts in oxygen were we are going to need the most feedback couse its new, and we dont want to over do it.
Re: Nice icon theme, but...
Thanks for the answer, I'm looking foreward to see the first results :)
What else could I say... I'm impressed. Now I understand why KDE didn't want to use the crappy Tango icons ;)
By ac at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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The previews look amazing! However, I wonder if it is smart to
In the meanwhile, potential contributors might be drawn to improving Tango not because its icons are better, but simply because Tango draft icons are already available in SVG format.
It might also be a good idea to include a TODO list on the Oxygen website saying which icons still need to be done. This would help channel efforts into the areas that need most work.
By Vlad C. at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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I don't like the Tango icons, they look cartoonish, unaesthetical. Probably the worst icons made for GNOME so far. Still nuvola beats the hell out of Tango icons. But then it's my personal taste. I also don't like to see Tango influence this project since I believe that the KDE people are doing better in any ways.
By ac at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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I think Tango will be great at least for creating standard icon naming conventions. It would be great if a great GNOME icon theme could be used on KDE and a great KDE icon theme could be used on GNOME. Both sides have some really talented graphic designers.
By Christopher Parker at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Icon design
PLEASE keep the icons facing at the SAME direction! It is VERY important for consistency and unified look. For example, check the speaker here:
By UsabilityDude at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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"It is VERY important for consistency and unified look."
Why is that so important? I don't think they look worse if they face multiple directions. Currently (in my kicker) icons look at various directions, and it doesn't bother me in any way, and it looks good!
I'm asking this because I heard this before, but I never heared an explanation - or is it just that it looks better if they face the same direction? (I can accept that, I can even accept that most people would find it more pleasent that way - even though I personally don't - if the claim is backed up by solid research).
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>I'm asking this because I heard this before, but I never heared an explanation
Some have a sense of aesthetics, some don't.
> or is it just that it looks better if they face the same direction?
It's worse. A set doesn't look consistent, when the imaginary view point axis isn't the same for all icons.
By Carlo at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
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I think it's just about aesthetics, nothing more.
> A set doesn't look consistent, when the imaginary
What is a "point axis"?
I think you want to talk about the the "vanishing point", which is the point where parallels in some perspectivic point of views intersect. This has nothing to do with the orientation of the depicted object, and is also for a two dimensional desktop irrelevant, because then you would need to change the view of the icon depending on the position on the screen (which would be easier to implement if you would go to a real three dimensional Desktop).
So maybe you mean that all icons should have the same perspectivic point of view, but the actually are consistent in that. The speaker is in the same perspectivic view as the printer next to it, the object itself is just rotated. I think it's legitim to do that. A speaker for example has it's "chakteristic view" of the cone, chassis and the coils if seen in a "semiprofile". If you look at it in a frontview you basically see concentic circles, which are not that easy to identify as a speaker. Similar observations lead to other (rotational) views on other objects, but the perspective stays the same.
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>What is a "point axis"?
Something similar to a line surface ? but with 1 dimension less... fractal stuff, perhaps?
By oliv at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
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I saw this in the past few weeks. I think this new hobbyhorse is actually a (psycho)linguistic phenomenon. Icons facing in the same direction convey a sense of order which is one of the connotiation of consisteny (it is not its meaning, and I won't say it is its primary connotation, just one of them).
From a usability point of view it doesn't make too much sense, nor does it from an aesthetic point of view. Take a look at my kicker in the kde screenshot>
The reason that the icons are inconsistent there is not primarily because they face different directions (take a look at the middle), but because they are from different icon sets (no icon set is complete enough unfortunately). There are a number of aspects that make an icon theme more consistent, all of which are more important than the direction they face (for instance, the color palette). In fact, if we allow the "direction" mantra to override other aspects, it may even hurt usability. Icons should be easy to distinguish from a distance, and what's more, if there are two applications that serve more or less the same function (you see kword, openoffice writer and scribus in my screenshot), the difference in the direction helps to distinguish (not only on first sight, but it makes easier to remember as well).
Basically the parent's post is a good example for taking direction too seriously. We see three icons: printer, speaker, CD. The printer and CD face us, the speaker doesn't ... and actually couldn't. Imagine the same speaker from the front :)) So basically parent is asking for redrawing the icon completely, because it doesn't face us. This "must face the same direction" is a little bit overrated, don't you think?
Re: Icon design
'From a usability point of view it doesn't make too much sense, nor does it from an aesthetic point of view.'
You are talking about about aestetics and usability? First, you have to learn something about colors (your desktop, which you are so proud of, is a proof that you are colorblind). Combination of shity green and shity blue color on your desktop is a great example how one should not use the colors.
And rule number one (which you don't understand):
Aestetics = usability
'There are a number of aspects that make an icon theme more consistent, all of which are more important than the direction they face (for instance, the color palette). In fact, if we allow the "direction" mantra to override other aspects, it may even hurt usability.'
No shit. Dude, you don't understand anything. Direction is as important as any other aspect. Icons must not be a disturbing element on a desktop, and they are disturbing element if they are not facing the same direction.
By Lala at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
>Aestetics = usability
Please check in a dictionary. And then read some documentation about usability. And then think. The conclusion will spring. A sparkle of understanding in your mind. A delicious feeling.
By oliv at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
"your desktop, which you are so proud of,"
Oh, please - I'm not proud of it, in fact, I linked to it as an example for color mismatch. I prefer green as a background, and I have yet to find an icon theme that is both complete and integrates well to my taste in backgrounds.
Yeah, sure. I just checked the highest rated icon sets on kde-look: nuvoeXT, crystalclear, nuvola, in this order. These are the icon sets users found most pleasing, and yet - behold the direction of the icons: ftp://hatvani.unideb.hu/pub/personal/screenshots/icons/
I think this pretty much settles the matter: good usability doesn't have to be explained to the users (with brain-pattern-recognition babble). I'm all for cooperation and whatnot, and my intention is not to incite a flamewar, but this entire matter reminds me of usability folks in the "other" project having to explain why one or other feature (spatial browsing by default comes to mind is supposed to be better), disregarding every complaint from the userbase... yeah, sure, you usability pundits don't have to listen to your users (this is a hypothetical "you" here, adressed to usabilityDude type of pundits). If they don't agree with your views on usability, it simply because they have poor aesthetic taste, and idiots in general, right?
By Csaba Molnar at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
Hi usabilityDude;
I'm not new to usability and the only thing I know about is people facing left or right as well as moving things going left or right.
By Thomas Zander at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
I will only say one thing: BeOS.
Usability for large sets of icons DICTATES that for consistency and for brain's ease-of-pattern-recognition, ALL its icons MUST face at the same direction.
The new Gnome effort is also doing the exact same thing. I hope the KDE dudes also listen and do it too.
By UsabilityDude at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
In my above reply I tried to remember where I saw icons that were aesthetically unpleasent and they looked like an army or something - and BANG! it was the BeOS screenshots I saw (I just didn't remember it).
"Usability for large sets of icons DICTATES that for consistency and for brain's ease-of-pattern-recognition, ALL its icons MUST face at the same direction."
I think this is a hoax - or at least it doesn't make any sense (but sounds good and it looks like as if it was something serious - it isn't). Capitalizing the keywords don't help it either :) Lets see:
- "and for brain's ease-of-pattern-recognition," Again, what do you mean by that? Becaue it sounds cool and all, but there is no such thing as the brain's easy-of-pattern-recognition. Yes, the brain recognizes patterns (which appears to be acquired with and a function of language) - even where there are none I might add :) - but that doesn't necessarily help usability at all. It is much more important what the icons actually represent. The user should know at first glance what will be the result of clicking a particular icon, and whether all icons face the same direction or not doesn't help a bit in this.
- " because the brain did not have to adjust itself to recognize shapes looking at different directions." You largely underestimate the average brain. Your entire argument is a classic case of thinking of human beings as computer programs in the sense that you reduce the user to a set of functions - the brain's easy-of-pattern-recognition function - without taking into consideration just how complex the entire issue is. For instance, one might argue that "a slight variation in the direction icons look keeps the brain unconsciously alert" - I just couldn't make that argument with a straight face :))
Are you sure you didn't make that post with tongue in cheek (because then, I'm a victim of your humour :)))
Re: Icon design
You are obviously an idiot. Icons of a given set must be consistent with each other. They do look better, they do look more welcoming, and they don't look like a FREAKING MESS.
By UsabilityDude at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
You're probably going to have to do better than resorting to name-calling to get people to take your point seriously.
Try answering his actual points. Calling him an idiot is just a signal that you don't have actual data to back up your point of view.
By Dolio at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design
"You are obviously an idiot." Yeah, obviously.
You answered none of the points I raised, and your reaction is quite ironic in the light of your nickname and the fact that you're preaching usability.
I will try to describe my points more simply (I'm not an english speaker, so it might be difficult to understand me sometimes). So: whether an icon theme is consistent or not depends on many things, of which the direction they face is the least important. I refer you to my screenshot that I posted before. If you check out the 4 icons in the middle, odd one is obviously the kword icon - not because it leans in another direction, but because it has an entirely different color palette.
What you wrote as an explanation seems to be no more than good sounding but empty terms (brain-pattern-recognition...) and I eagerly awaiting your real answer to the points I raised concerning your techno babble.
My whole point is that icon direction is totally overrated. Yes, I can imagine certain circumstances when it is beneficial, or simply looks better (like mimetypes/folder icons) - but that doesn't mean that they are actually more usable or user friendly. In very simple terms, a variation in direction might help the users remember the distinctions between say scribus, openoffice or kword which have similar functionality (thus they'll have similar icons: see my example, there is pen and paper on each of them) but are completely different beasts in reality.
Your BeOS example fails on the point that, again, you overrate one aspect of the UI (all BeOS icons lean in the same direction) so much that you attribute the - admittedly legendary - usability of BeOS to this single factor. This is the least important factor in my opinion, and what's more, I haven't seen any solid evidence or theory behind your reasoning except the (silly) BeOS example and the fact that GNOME is doing it. Fine, and tango actually is not bad, but what makes it good is that it is less dull than the current GNOME icon theme - see the comparison on the project's page. And we know pretty well that the current icon theme was also the result of wild usability theories, which now seem to be discarded in favor of a new one (and I might add that what makes tango nice is that it is not very dissimilar to oxygen's less vibrant themes).
In short: if you come up with such a wild theory, and you keep shouting DO THIS BECOUSE USABILITY DICTATES IT, you better come up with some reasoning beside GNOME is doing it and BeOS ruled once. And don't call those who disagree with you idiots. Thanks.
By Csaba Molnar at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Crystal Icons
The Crystal Icons are not bad at all, either. On the contrary. Remember those before Crystal? They looked kind of brown (Gnomish) :-) Crystal is a great appearance for KDE.
Everaldo remains one of KDE's finest artists, too.
By Silviu Marin-Caea at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
My problem with the Crystal Icons is that they don't look really good at 32x32 (a bit blurry) and 16x16 (a bit hard to distinguish from each other).
In 64x64 or 128x128 they look really great, but who uses such big icons? A good example is the wallet icon. It looks fantastic - but not on smaller icon sizes.
Oxygen seems to go into the same direction. In this respect I like the Tango concept a bit more (yet it has some other disadvantages e.g. some icons like the speaker are very hard to recognize at smaller sizes).
By Ascay at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
And yet Oxygen is being made to use 128x128 optimally. Toolbar icons are being designed for 32x32 at least, but who knows how they'll look in 16 or 22, and mimetypes designed for 128 may just look terrible in detailed list view..
I would hope they address it, but it doesn't sound like they are paying any more attention to making sure small icons are usable than Everaldo did. SVG just isn't hot at 16px
We'll see I guess, there's just an awful lot of acclaim being lobbed at what amounts mostly at this point to words.
By jason at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
actually - i really hope icons are going to be 'bigger' in the future...
and i really hope that screens will start to become 'bigger' as well. i want higher resolution in terms of ppi so that nice icons don't fill that much...
give me 19" screen with 4000x3000 pixels and i put 128x128 in my toolbar right away...
but, thanks to the limits in windows, hardware vendors will not give us that... hoping for vista
By bangert at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
Some types of screens can not become larger. For example, I'm currently typing on a laptop with a 14.1" screen. If the screen got much bigger, it would loose its portability. Since a significant amount of people have a laptop or a small monitor, KDE will always have to keep these people in mind.
By Pingveno at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
Yes, but physical screen size has no direct correlation to size of icons without factoring in resolution.
Which is to say - your future 14.1" screen with a 4000x3000 resolution will need large icons (around 128px) to have them be the same size as today's medium icons (around 32px). Physical screen size will likely maintain a range of sizes to suit the consumer's taste, but resolution tends to always increase. Thus large icon sizes satisfy increasing resolutions on any physically sized screen from your small laptop to large widescreen displays.
By Evan "JabberWok... at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
I can't say I've ever seen anyone complain about Crystal. Well, not until I read Oxygen's site complaining about childishness etc. Of course they are going to push their theme, but to me it looks like an end run around Everaldo, who's put in a ton of time making an awesome icon theme for KDE.
I obviously wasn't around for the conference that birthed Oxygen, but I just haven't seen the great outcry for a new theme that a project of such magnitude would seem to imply.
/me adopts a wait and see attitude
By jason at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Crystal Icons
A new theme was needed anyway to take advantage of the new upcoming KDE 4 features. Regarding Crystal it is a nice theme and people like it, but there were many problems with small icons and the original author haven't never done a work of theme mantainence and it took a lot of time before the sources were made available to the community, and anyway as Illustrator files. Oxygen will be released as SVG, so all the sources will be available and the Oxygen team is commited to mantain the theme when released. We know SVG isn't good for small icons, for this reason we will made special version for these small sizes.
By David Vignoni at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Yeah... these icons rock!
Great work!
By thomas at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Icon design software
I am sure that KDE 4 will rock. And more so with the new fresh icon theme.
What kind of tools/software is used for designing this kind of stuff. I doubt if GIMP can do that all this. Are there any good linux based softwares?
By Nilesh Bansal at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design software
I saw for Linux a program that is more similar in apparence to Photoshop :
But the program isn't be OpenSource or Free , you have to pay to use more than trial time ... The program isn't be so expensive.
By Yuko at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design software
I think that icons are madi with some SVG editor like, Inkscape or Sodipodi. They are both GPL and free. Maybe they are made with Corel.
By MaBu at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design software
I use mainly inkscape, but i also use krita, karbon14, and all of the great desktop kde is.
Re: Icon design software
Besides the applications that are already mentioned, I heard that XaraExtreme will become available for linux under an open source license...
By rinse at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Icon design software
I use Adobe Illustrator. The I fix the SVG files with Inkscape. I use Machintosh to work and have KDE installed also, but I try the results on another Linux machine.
By David Vignoni at Thu, 2005/11/17 - 6:00am
Quite nice ...
... and less blue, which I consider a grand thing.
By St. Kevin at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Licence question
I'm not sure I understand the licence of Oxygen icons right. It's non-commercial so are commercial (closed source) software vendors able to distribute these icons without opening the source of the programs?
I was wondering this just because it would be great to see some closed source offerings complementing the great KDE user experience.
Also, will these icons be cross-desktop like Tango icons?
By Tapio Kautto at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Licence question
Hrm, after RTFA I found that the icons will be released under GPL, LGPL or under a icon-specific similar licence.
Sorry for not RTFA before asking ;)
By Tapio Kautto at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Licence question
If a cross-desktop look was being sought after then there's no reason the better icons couldn't be folded into Tango (the help, navigation and reload buttons in particular are gorgeous and miles better than the Tango ones). For once there's absolutely no difference between the stated goals of the "rival" initiatives, and it's obvious that Oxygen is following the same visual guidelines sgarrity came up with for Firefox (and thus Tango).
I'm pretty disappointed with the need to "preview" an unfinished icon set for the sake of keeping up appearances, especially when combined with a promise to relicense later. It's yet more duplicated effort.
- Chris
By Chris C at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am
Re: Licence question
About cross-desktop,yes i hope so!
Oxygen needs to be cross-platform!
Please try hard to remain compatible to 'the other desktop'. Not that I use gnome, but there's a lot of duplicated work or icon themes that never reach the other desktop and it's just a lack of communication.
Tango did maybe not involve the KDE developers enough in their preparation phase, but their specification is still adaptable. You three are the ones who will decide on icon names, usage, guidelines and everything, and I ask you to actively participate in the evolution of the Tango icon naming specification, so that it's really usable by KDE too.
I'm glad that you're not against cross-desktop usage, but just hoping isn't enough to succeed here. Get on the Tango-artists mailing list at fd.o and push the changes in that you think are necessary. For the best of both of the big desktops.
By Jakob Petsovits at Wed, 2005/11/16 - 6:00am