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Skip to comments.A Blast From The Past: James Hansen on The Global Warming Debate from 13 years ago
Posted on 05/11/2012 9:00:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Some years ago when I was investigating the climate change issue in my spare time, I ran across a short article by James Hansen on the GISS website under Education Resource Materials, dated January, 1999. James Hansen is arguably the father of modern Anthropogenic Global Warming dogma. So I saved the web page for future reference because of some of the predictions contained within it, as well as the incredibly balanced and well-reasoned attitude expressed regarding the philosophy of scientific investigation. We could all benefit from Dr. Hansens wisdom. For example,
Skepticism thus plays an essential role in scientific research, and, far from trying to silence skeptics, science invites their contributions. So too, the global warming debate benefits from traditional scientific skepticism.
And another gem:
Although scientists have a right to express personal opinions related to policy issues, it seems to me that we can be of more use by focusing on the science and carrying that out with rigorous objectivity. That approach seems to be essential for the success, as well as the fun, of scientific research.
Given what has transpired in the intervening 13 years, it is not surprising that I can no longer find the article on the GISS site (but I may not have dug deeply enough). Therefore, I am making my copy of the article available to you for your reading pleasure. There is such a wealth of fascinating statements contained in this short document, it is impossible to decide where to begin. I suspect others will find numerous points to comment on. By the way, the embedded link to Dr. Hansens book review is still working, and I found that to be an interesting read as well.
I found Dr. Hansens chart of projected global temperature anomalies intriguing, particularly in light of the observational record of the last decade:
This chart, as displayed in the January, 1999 document, is a replica of the global temperature projections, considering three scenarios that Dr. Hansen presented during his celebrated 1988 United States Senate testimony, but updated with the actual observed GISS temperature record as of 1998.
Scenario A represented projected global temperatures assuming a fast growth rate for greenhouse gases. Scenarios B and C have a moderate growth rate for greenhouse gases until year 2000, after which greenhouse gases stop increasing in Scenario C. I thought it might be enlightening, or at least entertaining, to compare the current GISS global temperature record with what was presented in January, 1999. The traditional analysis global annual-mean surface air temperature change data series was downloaded from
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/ (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.A.txt)
This time series was plotted in Microsoft Excel. Unfortunately, time series data values that were used to produce the original chart did not seem to be available. Therefore, the Excel chart of the current GISS global temperature record was rather crudely scaled and overlain onto an image of the original chart, with the following result:
The data shown in red are from the original image published in 1999. The blue points are what are currently available for download at the GISS website. The slight apparent time shift in the vertical grid lines was necessary because, for some reason, Dr. Hansen originally plotted yearly averages between tick marks rather than centered on tick marks. The vertical scales have not been altered, and are as exact as I can make them with the manual overlay. The blue observational data points seem to roughly lie between Dr. Hansens Scenario B (moderate, continued growth rate in greenhouse gases) and Scenario C (moderate growth rate in greenhouse gases until year 2000, after which greenhouse gases stop increasing). Interestingly, the data currently available for download (blue) seem to be indicating a slightly warmer trend than what was presented in 1999 (red). After manually applying a slight downward bulk shift (or bias) to the overlay of the current record (blue), the two time series seem to be in slightly better agreement:
It seems the historical GISS temperature record has been somewhat altered, or adjusted since January of 1999, such that historical global temperature anomaly values are now slightly more positive than what was published at that time. Perhaps a base line change was applied to the data since the 1999 article. But data after 1988 appear to be adjusted to a greater extent than data prior to 1988. Well, it is what it is, and the best we can do is to calibrate the current GISS temperature time series to the years prior to 1988, under the charitable assumption that perhaps the points that were added to the original 1988 chart in the 1999 article were accidentally mis-posted.
Now that the current version of historical temperature measurements are approximately calibrated to the historic record as presented by Dr. Hansen to the United States Senate in 1988, it seems that the GISS record in the years following 1988 have roughly approximated Dr. Hansens Scenario C. But wait that scenario was a projection of temperature variations assuming greenhouse gases stop increasing after the year 2000. Did I miss something? Was the IPCC wildly successful after all?
It is also illustrative to compare Dr. Hansens 1988 prediction with the satellite record. UAH NCDC temperature data from analyses by Roy Spencer and John Christy was downloaded from Dr. Spencers website:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures (http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt)
Since these data are monthly averages of global temperature derived from satellite measurements, the global temperature data series was further averaged over each calendar year to enable direct comparison with the raw, currently available GISS data. The UAH NCDC chart was then manually scaled and bulk shifted in order to calibrate with the original 1999 GISS data (since the base periods for the two data sets are different). The result of this crude scaling exercise is shown with the UAH NCDC data in green, compared with the current, unbiased GISS data in blue:
After applying the manual bulk shift to compensate for the different base line periods, it appears that the satellite data agree reasonably well with the current, unbiased GISS surface station data except for the trend, as others have pointed out. GISS estimates since 1998 seem to be consistently higher than the UAH NCDC satellite estimates. More accurately stated (since the calibration was visual only), the GISS trend appears more positive than the UAH NCDC satellite data trend. Interesting. Now it looks like Dr. Hansens Scenario C global temperature forecast that he presented to the United States Senate in 1988 was amazingly accurate, according to the satellite-derived global temperature record. That is truly a remarkable achievement. So now lets employ a bit of faulty logic that is similar to that which is routinely applied by AGW proponents: The observational data fit the model, so the model must be accurate. Anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions must have ceased in the year 2000. And I missed it. Rats.
In the interest of full disclosure, I must unambiguously state that I am a state board-certified Professional Geophysicist nearing retirement after more than 38 years spent in the search for new oil and gas reserves. As such, AGW proponents may simply dismiss my comments as the ravings of an oil company shill. There is no statement that I can swear to that would convince them otherwise. So be it. The truth is that the observations, opinions, and views I have expressed are the result of independent critical thought, are strictly my own, and do not in any way represent those of my employer, the oil industry in general, or any other entities.
Floyd Doughty
May 10, 2012
By James Hansen January 1999
The only way to have real success in science is to describe the evidence very carefully without regard to the way you feel it should be. If you have a theory, you must try to explain whats good about it and whats bad about it equally. In science you learn a kind of standard integrity and honesty. Richard Feynman
In my view, we are not doing as well as we could in the global warming debate. For one thing, we have failed to use the opportunity to help teach the public about how science research works. On the contrary, we often appear to the public to be advocates of fixed adversarial positions. Of course, we can try to blame this on the media and politicians, with their proclivities to focus on antagonistic extremes. But that doesnt really help.
The fun in science is to explore a topic from all angles and figure out how something works. To do this well, a scientist learns to be open-minded, ignoring prejudices that might be imposed by religious, political or other tendencies (Galileo being a model of excellence). Indeed, science thrives on repeated challenge of any interpretation, and there is even special pleasure in trying to find something wrong with well-accepted theory. Such challenges eventually strengthen our understanding of the subject, but it is a never-ending process as answers raise more questions to be pursued in order to further refine our knowledge.
Skepticism thus plays an essential role in scientific research, and, far from trying to silence skeptics, science invites their contributions. So too, the global warming debate benefits from traditional scientific skepticism.
I have argued in a recent book review that some greenhouse skeptics subvert the scientific process, ceasing to act as objective scientists, rather presenting only one side, as if they were lawyers hired to defend a particular viewpoint. But some of the topics focused on by the skeptics are recognized as legitimate research questions, and also it is fair to say that the injection of environmental, political and religious perspectives in midstream of the science research has occurred from both sides in the global warming debate.
So, what to do? Most scientists are willing to spend part of their time communicating with the public about how science works. And they should be: after all, the financial support for most research is provided ultimately by the public. But one quickly learns that such communication is not easy, at least not for many of us.
In late 1998, I was asked to debate the well-known greenhouse skeptic Dr. Patrick Michaels of the University of Virginia. I summarize here some key points in the debate, A Public Debate on the Science of Global Warming, held at the New York Hilton, Nov. 20, 1998, and organized by the American Association for the Rhetoric of Science and Technology. A copy of my entire contribution may be downloaded as a PDF document (Note: This document is 597 kB and requires a special viewer such as the free Adobe Reader.).
I agreed to participate in this debate with Dr. Michaels after learning that he had used (or misused) a figure of mine in testimony to the United States Congress. The figure showed the first predictions made with a 3-D climate model and time-dependent climate forcings it was a figure from a paper that we had published in the Journal of Geophysical Research in 1988 and it had been a principal basis for testimony that I gave to the United States Senate in 1988.
The figure that we published is reproduced here as Fig. 1.
Fig. 1: Climate model calculations reported in Hansen et al. (1988).
It shows the simulated global mean temperature for three climate forcing scenarios. Scenario A has a fast growth rate for greenhouse gases. Scenarios B and C have a moderate growth rate for greenhouse gases until year 2000, after which greenhouse gases stop increasing in Scenario C. Scenarios B and C also included occasional large volcanic eruptions, while scenario A did not. The objective was to illustrate the broad range of possibilities in the ignorance of how forcings would actually develop. The extreme scenarios (A with fast growth and no volcanos, and C with terminated growth of greenhouse gases) were meant to bracket plausible rates of change. All of the maps of simulated climate change that I showed in my 1988 testimony were for the intermediate scenario B, because it seemed the most likely of the three scenarios.
But when Pat Michaels testified to congress in 1998 and showed our 1988 predictions (Fig. 1) he erased the curves for scenarios B and C, and showed the result only for scenario A. He then argued that, since the real world temperature had not increased as fast as this model calculation, the climate model was faulty and there was no basis for concern about climate change, specifically concluding that the Kyoto Protocol was a useless appendage to an irrelevant treaty.
Although scientists have a right to express personal opinions related to policy issues, it seems to me that we can be of more use by focusing on the science and carrying that out with rigorous objectivity. That approach seems to be essential for the success, as well as the fun, of scientific research.
Fig. 1 is a good case in point. We now know (Hansen et al. 1998a, 1998b) that the growth rate of greenhouse gases in the period 1988-1998 has been flat, very similar to scenarios B and C (which are nearly the same until year 2000). Thus we can compare real world temperature changes in the past decade (filled circles in Fig. 1) with model calculations for the B-C scenarios. Taking account of the fact that the real world volcano occurred in 1991, rather than 1995 as assumed in the model, it is apparent that the model did a good job of predicting global temperature change. But the period of comparison is too short and the climate change too small compared to natural variability for the comparison to provide a meaningful check on the models sensitivity to climate forcings. With data from another decade we will be able to make a much clearer evaluation of the model.
As the opinions in the global warming debate do not seem to be converging, it seems to me that one useful thing that can be done is to clearly delineate the fundamental differences. Then, as our scientific understanding advances over the next several years, we can achieve more convincing evaluations of the global warming issue. (Stated less generously, this is a way to pin down those who keep changing their arguments.)
Table 1 summarizes chief differences that I delineated for the sake of a discussion with Richard Lindzen, who has provided the intellectual underpinnings for the greenhouse skeptics, in October 1998. I also used this list (Table 1) as the principal fodder for my affirmative closing argument in the debate with Pat Michaels.
1. Observed global warming: real or measurement problem?
Hansen: global warming is 0.5-0.75°C in past century, at least ~0.3°C in past 25 years.
Lindzen: since about 1850 more likely 0.1±0.3°C (MIT Tech Talk, 34, #7, 1989).
2. Climate sensitivity (equilibrium response to 2xCO2)
Lindzen: ~< 1°C
Hansen: 3±1°C
Comments: paleoclimate data, improved climate models, and process studies may narrow uncertainties; observed climate change on decadal time scales will provide constraint if climate forcings are measured; implicit information on climate sensitivity can be extracted from observed changes in ocean heat storage.
3. Water vapor feedback
Lindzen: negative, upper tropospheric water vapor decreases with global warming.
Hansen: positive, upper and lower tropospheric water vapor increase with global warming.
References: (these include references by Lindzen stating that, in response to global warming, water vapor will decrease at altitudes above 2-3 km).
Comment: accurate observations of interannual changes (several years) and long-term changes (1-2 decades) of upper tropospheric water vapor could provide defining data.
4. CO2 contribution to the ~33°C natural greenhouse effect
Lindzen: Even if all other greenhouse gases (such as carbon dioxide and methane) were to disappear, we would still be left with over 98 percent of the current greenhouse effect. Cato Review, Spring issue, 87-98, 1992; If all CO2 were removed from the atmosphere, water vapor and clouds would still provide almost all of the present greenhouse effect. Res. Explor. 9, 191-200, 1993.
Lacis and Hansen: removing CO2, with water vapor kept fixed, would cool the Earth 5-10°C; removing CO2 and trace gases with water vapor allowed to respond would remove most of the natural greenhouse effect.
5. When will global warming and climate change be obvious?
Lindzen: I personally feel that the likelihood over the next century of greenhouse warming reaching magnitudes comparable to natural variability remains small.
Hansen: With the climatological probability of a hot summer represented by two faces (say painted red) of a six-faced die, judging from our model by the 1990s three or four of the six die faces will be red. It seems to us that this is a sufficient loading of the dice that it will be noticeable to the man in the street. J. Geophys. Res. 93, 9341-9364, 1988.
6. Planetary disequilibrium
Hansen: Earth is out of radiative equilibrium with space by at least approximately 0.5 W/m2 (absorbing more energy than it emits).
Comments: This is the most fundamental measure of the state of the greenhouse effect. Because the disequilibrium is a product of the long response time of the climate system, which in turn is a strong function of climate sensitivity, confirmation of the disequilibrium provides information on climate sensitivity and an indication of how much additional global warming is in the pipeline due to gases already added to the atmosphere.
This disequilibrium could be measured as the sum of the rate of heat storage in the ocean plus the net energy going into the melting of ice. Existing technology, including very precise measurements of ocean and ice sheet topography, could provide this information.
Differences 1 (reality of global warming) and 2 (climate sensitivity) are very fundamental. From my perspective, strong evidence is already accumulating that weighs heavily against the skeptics contentions that there is no significant global warming and that climate sensitivity is low. These issues will become even clearer over the next several years.
Difference 3 (water vapor feedback) is related to climate sensitivity, but is so fundamental that it deserves specific attention. The topic has resisted definitive empirical evaluation, because of the poor state of water vapor measurements and the fact that tropospheric temperature change has been small in the past 20 years. Ozone depletion, which affects upper tropospheric temperatures, has also complicated this problem. This situation will change if, as I would anticipate, ozone depletion flattens and global temperature continues to rise.
Difference 4 has an academic flavor, and is perhaps not worth special efforts. But it illustrates a lack of understanding of the basic greenhouse mechanism by Lindzen.
Difference 5 is fundamental because substantial efforts to curb global warming may require that climate change first be apparent to people. If our assessments are right, we are in fact on the verge of warming being noticeable to the perceptive person-in-the-street. (See related material Global Temperature Trends and the Common Sense Climate Index.)
Difference 6, concerning the planetary disequilibrium (imbalance between incoming and outgoing radiation) is the most fundamental measure of the state of the anthropogenic greenhouse effect. The disequilibrium should exist if climate sensitivity is as high (and thus the ocean thermal response time so long) as we estimate, and if increasing greenhouse gases are the dominant climate forcing mechanism. We have presented evidence (Hansen et al. 1997) of a disequilibrium of at least 0.5 W/m2. This imbalance is the basis by which we could predict that record global temperatures would occur within a few years, that the 1990s would be warmer than the 1980s, and that the first decade of next century will be warmer than the 1990s, despite the existence of natural climate variability. I do not know of a reference where Lindzen specifically addresses planetary radiation imbalance, but his positions regarding climate sensitivity and the ocean response time clearly imply a smaller, negligible imbalance.
The important point is that the planetary radiation imbalance is measurable, via the ocean temperature, because the only place this excess energy can go is into the ocean and, probably to a less extent, into the melting of ice. If our estimates are approximately right, this heat storage should not escape detection during the next several years.
In summary, all of these issues are ones that the scientific community potentially can make progress on in the near future, if they receive appropriate attention. The real global warming debate, in the sense of traditional science, can be resolved to a large extent in a reasonable time.
76 Responses to A Blast From The Past: James Hansen on The Global Warming Debate from 13 years ago
Love it! bttt
a different Hansen ping
Hansen is not just a liar and obfuscator...he is certifiably nuts. You tell by his vehement rhetoric and trying to smear his opponents as denialists. What a kook, a dangerous one
More of Hansen's high powered BS-—>>>
Hansens Game Over for the Climate op-ed for the NY Times
Thanks for this Hansen ping. He should not be on the NASA payroll.
Great re-find!
All that "ethics stuff" only applies to us, not them.
The Yamal deception ( Dataused for the Global Warming Hoax
Hiding of data for a published paper for a decade.
This scientifical stuff can be confusing.
Seems like Hansen always ends up finding himself in hot water. :)
Yep. He has invested everything into 'saving the earth' from a non-danger, that he now has no way to back off. He just keeps doubling down... with taxpayer money and corrupt politician and media backing.
The man gave up science decades ago.
Key part is taxpayer money. This freaked out parasite has an assured Federal salary/pension and millions at his disposal to act out his sicknesses. To let it all hang out without any consequences
Do you remember all the hell that was raised back during the Bush administration when some office at NASA said he had to have his papers reviewed before he presented them?
I'd be willing to bet he is the only employee of NASA (or any other large government of private organization) that does not have to submit his papers for review for technical accuracy and potential copyright/patent protection, as well as legal and public relations approval before publishing.
Every organization I know of, government or private, does the same thing. I know, I reviewed hundreds of deadly boring technical papers over the years for a private company. But Hansen thinks he should be exempt from that kind of overview and refused to submit them for prior review.
For a guy with zero accomplishments in his life, he sure has a high opinion of himself.
I remember that one.
Hansen's mentality is that he is an untounchable Federale. He could care less about you or me in the private productive sector. If you suffer from zero carbon emissions schemes or if coal fired plants are shut down. His target audience is other Gov't workers and politicians on the state and Federal level. His target audience is also NGOs and universities getting lots of Federale funding for dubious climate research
People in the real world of profits and losses don't believe his garbage so he mostly ignores them (us). He knows subliminally that we have his number. Both him and Algore refuse to engage in debates because they would lose to more nimble and intelligent private sector challengers and a few university climate dissidents too.
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JEFFERSON - Marie Ann Bailey, 68, passed away on Sunday, May 12, 2013.
A native of Baltimore, Md., she was the daughter of the late Henry John and Olivia Kramer. She was retired as a dietician with the New Hanover County North Carolina Board of Education and was a member of Academy Baptist Church in Jefferson. Mrs. Bailey was preceded in death by her husband, Kenneth Spero Bailey.
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Tuesday, March 26, 2013
While interviewing a male therapist about men's shame around sexual rejection, a point she considered when a male in a research group pointedly brought up how vulnerable men feel in the sexual arena, Dr. Brown sought the therapist's thoughts around addiction and pornography. His response? "For five bucks and five minutes, you think you're getting what you need, and you don't have to risk rejection."
She calls the comment "revelatory" for her because, like so many women, she'd always assumed that porn was about men seeking novelty, sexual expertise, spectacular bodies. Of course porn provides that. But in this therapist's point of view, the appeal of porn is rejection-free sex. "I guess the secret is that sex is terrifying for most men," he says, noting that porn offers "power and control". (Hardly makes porn harmless, there's still evidence that viewing it alters neural pathways in the brain.)
My husband has been telling me this for years. I didn't really believe him. Or rather, I listened. And then dismissed what he'd told me in favor of self-bashing. My body isn't firm enough. My breasts aren't big enough. My sexual gymnastics aren't exciting enough. Despite my husband's repeated insistence that porn never ultimately provided what he now understands he craved – intimacy – I too often assumed he'd simply had his fun and was okay with it being over.
I've said before, however, and it seems I've forgotten my own words: sex addiction and porn addiction are hardly "fun". The rest of us assume, because sex is generally "fun", that, as addictions go, one that allows you to indulge in sex anywhere with anyone has to be a laugh-riot.
It's not. It's steeped in shame and fear, no matter what mask it's wearing.
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This really baffles me and I was thinking about the sexual part of their affair just yesterday. I mean wasn't he embarrassed at all about taking his clothes off in front of this stranger at his age?? Also the fact that he needed the little blue pill to help "keep things going"? If they are so scared and afraid of rejection wouldn't that keep them from affairs? Porn I can see because it's all in you mind (altho I see the harm in porn to relationships particularly if the spouse doesn't know about it). How does he not think that when his ass was out the door she wasn't counting the money he gave her and laughing at him because I believe she was!!! Plus she had another lover that he didn't know about until he left me and her lover called and told him. My H is a good lover but trust me he's not Casanova. Never has been. He's nice enough looking, but he isn't Brad Pitt either. I'm sure she liked him well enough, but I am convinced it was the money, and lots of it, that motivated her, not the incredible sex that she convinced him of. I think the man really thought he was a stud. One of his admissions was that when he was "done" he was ready to leave! All I know is at my age I would have to know a person a realllly long time and realllllly trust them before taking my clothes off. I know I am very rejection averse!ReplyDeleteReplies
In my husband's case, he simply didn't care what they thought. So rejection by them (or criticism or whatever) wouldn't carry the same weight. He didn't feel vulnerable with them. As he said to me, "I never once imagined what they were doing when they weren't with me, or wanted to sit down and have dinner with them" The fact that he objectified them to that extent – they were important to him only in as far as they met his physical needs – is another part of his shame. He never thought he'd be capable of that.Delete
So though it is baffling, I think it's only that way to us.
I used to be baffled at my mother's alcoholism. I simply couldn't understand why she would consistently choose alcohol when the consequences (almost losing her family) were so severe. With all the work I've been doing to try and understand my husband's actions, it's becoming much more clear.
- AnonymousMarch 27, 2013 at 7:34 AM
This post is insightful. Thank you so much for posting it.ReplyDelete
In my case, my husband was addicted to porn for years. He stayed up all night with it. He secretly used cialis to masturbate. I pleaded with him to stop. I articulated the pain it was causing me and, because my self-esteem and body image were poor, I resented him "using me" for release. His response was to get angry and accuse me of being controlling. He did compare me to the porn objects and told me I was "ample". (I truly wasn't. I simply had the body of a 50 year old.) There was little affection in our infrequent love-making because I was being used and I knew it. It was a vicious downward cycle. The porn led to the affair quite easily. Since discovery the porn has ended. Our love-making is meaningful and mutual. But I am always on guard-it is sobering to know how easily he did what he did.Replies
I completely understand your point. Porn gives men a blueprint for sex that has very little basis in reality. Women are always willing. They're always turned on. They have virtually no demands other than "more" and "harder". I recently read an article by a porn star who talked about the damage she and other women experience – prolapsed vaginas, chafing, bruising. Nothing sexy about that!Delete
And, of course, men begin to objectify women. I told my husband I began to feel like a blow-up doll.
Which is why I thought Brené Brown's understanding of men and porn was so fascinating. It's in keeping with what many experts/therapists say...but so counter-intuitive to how most women feel. Worth exploring.
You are right and I think the high from the affair is an addiction just like that to alcohol. Maybe that is trying to find excuses for peoples poor choices. Maybe it's trying to rationalize irrational behavior. Yes your Mon chose alcohol over you. In my H's case the OW worked for him so he had to see her everyday. It's weird, it's all weird and yes baffling.Replies
I think what trips many of us non-addicts up is the idea of "choice". We think it's just a matter of choosing differently. And clearly there's an element of that or else no-one would ever be able to beat an addiction. But choice to an addict is never simple. It's a street-fight and all to often the demons win.Delete
Watching my mom spiral down into alcoholism wasn't about watching someone "choose" alcohol over me, though it felt that way at the time. It was about watching someone medicate pain that she simply didn't have the ability to manage at that point in her life. Living hurt too much so she numbed it. And, for years, thought she wasn't hurting anybody. Something that I think sounds familiar to a lot of us.
This makes sense to me. I am the one who posted earlier about recently discovering my husband's sex addiction. He's told me it stemmed from low self-esteem, but I couldn't understand how paying prostitutes for sex would make anyone feel better - wouldn't it make more sense to pick up women at a bar or something? But the fact that it's rejection-free - that makes sense now. Thanks.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMay 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM
My husband was addicted to porn since he was a preteen, which was what led to it escalating to him acting out by meeting up with a woman he met online. He has told me over and over how awful it was. How disgusting it made him feel. The shame induced by acting out on the addiction it causes the addict to try and seek comfort in getting another high, which makes them feel more ashamed, which makes them seek another high, and it just feeds on itself until it gets out of control.ReplyDelete
He rarely had sex with me because of all the shame. It wasn't that he felt I wasn't good enough, it was that he felt HE wasn't good enough. He felt that he wasn't worthy to touch me because he was so ashamed of himself for being addicted to porn.
He's been clean for 11 months (after over 25 years of being addicted), in a large part because his psychologist helped him to understand the shame cycle and how it feeds the addiction. Plus the fact that now I know everything, and I still want to be with him has shown him that he isn't a horrible person. Yes, he's done horrible things, but the fact that he is remorseful and willing to do whatever it takes to make it up to me means I think he's worthy.
For any partner of a porn addict, I highly recommend Mark Chamberlain's book, "Love You, Hate the Porn." He also writes a blog. They have been invaluable resources for me on the journey towards healing.


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Thankyou still.here Zoo next week so I need to get practising infront of that mirror lol
Thankyou still.here Zoo next week so I need to get practising infront of that mirror lol
Will post how I got on hehe
Looking forward to it, mama!
I did it !!!!! I NIP at the zoo today I took the advice and just went for it and didn't show that I was embarrassed and not one person was bothered or even noticed what I was doing!! Was very busy there too but when you need to feed your baby out in the open...you need to feed your baby lol. Thank you all for all the advice and support for helping me achieve this and giving me a confidence boost. I am extremely pleased with myself hehe x
Well done, mama! First time's always the hardest. From now on, it'll be easy!
Wonderful!! Once you do it once, it gets easier the next time.
Thankyou :-) I was singing to my fiance` 'look at me i'm breastfeeding in public' haha
Lol. My dh shouts 'mardi gras!' every time I nurse in public.
Lol :-)


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What: Opera Colorado presents Gounod's "Romeo and Juliet"
When: 7:30 p.m. Tuesday and Friday; 2 p.m. Sunday
Where: Ellie Caulkins Opera House, 1101 13th Street (Denver Performing Arts Complex)
Tickets: $20-$160 at 303-468-2030 or OperaColorado.org
DENVER -- The operational and financial challenges currently faced by Opera Colorado have dominated stories about the organization for weeks, casting a shadow over discussions about the artistic endeavors of what is now a two-production season.
The staging of Charles Gounod's "Romeo and Juliet," which opened Saturday night at the Ellie Caulkins Opera House, should decisively steer the conversation where it needs to be. It is also a graphic illustration of why professional opera needs to remain viable in the area.
The work, which retains the essence of its Shakespearean source as well as the distinctive flavor of French grand opera, is supported by a raft of unforgettable melodies and thrilling ensembles, but success or failure depends more than usual upon the appeal of the two leads.
With all of these implications, soprano Ava Pine gives what must be one of the company's most heroic performances. After her flawless, quintessential portrayal of Susanna in Mozart's "Marriage of Figaro" last season, Pine impresses even more as a youthful, strong-willed Juliet.
Through much of the opera's history, Juliet sang only one aria, the familiar, eminently hummable waltz piece in the first act. The grander and more shattering "Poison" aria highlighted in Act IV, which requires an entirely different vocal technique, was usually cut. Both arias are now typically included, and Pine was glorious in both. Her solid pitch, fine projection and smooth French diction are unflagging throughout the three hours, most of which she spends onstage.
Pine must also navigate four huge love duets. Her counterpart, Italian tenor Giuseppe Varano, making his OC debut as Romeo, nearly matches her passion and intensity. The melodious bedroom duet in Act IV is exquisitely gorgeous, and the death duet that takes up the whole of Act V has a shattering impact that justifies Gounod's alteration to Shakespeare.
It could be argued that Varano's best moment, however, is without Pine, in the only extended scene where Juliet is offstage, the duel in Act III. The entire scene is thrilling, with fantastic fight choreography by Benaiah Anderson. Here, two supporting players also make a tremendous impression.
Tenor John McVeigh is an impulsive, spiteful Tybalt with a forceful singing voice. Baritone Danie Belcher's Mercutio, after the daunting assignment of singing the first aria -- the breathless, pattering Queen Mab monologue -- must shift gears to provide the first moment of tragedy when Tybalt strikes him down. Belcher makes it seem effortless.
Two basses, Stephen Morscheck as Lord Capulet and Kevin Langan as Friar Laurence, are also excellent. Langan is particularly wonderful in the "Potion" aria, setting up Pine's triumph in the "Poison" aria that directly follows.
Marcia Ragonetti, the company's most familiar and regular face, does everything she can as the nurse, in this version named Gertrude in a role greatly reduced from Shakespeare. The same is true of Geoff Cox as the Duke of Verona, who makes his presence felt at the end of the duel, the only one of the character's appearances preserved in the opera, and that only in a now-standard expanded version of the scene.
Mezzo-soprano Brenda Patterson as the page Stephano, a "trouser" role absent in Shakespeare and created for the conventions of French opera, sings an utterly delightful and tuneful "Turtledove" serenade that ends up believably precipitating the fateful duel scene.
The OC chorus, led by John Baril and always reliably assured and magnificent, again provides a background tapestry vital to the opera's success. This is especially evident in the raucous party scenein Act I.
Conductor Robert Wood, making his debut with the company, has obviously studied the score with affectionate care. The orchestral openings of all five acts, particularly Act IV, are superbly played, and the cellos deserve particular praise for their beautiful four-part harmonies, the scoring of which is one of Gounod's great inspirations.
Director Bill Murray pulls everything together with a tasteful, open staging, including a fantastic balcony set in Act II. The opera runs for three more performances in the next week.


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Despite Nadya "Octomom" Suleman saying her La Habra home is not at risk of foreclosure, the offers to help her out keep coming.
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The animal rights group on Tuesday offered to "bolster her finances" in exchange for placing an advertisement on her front lawn, according to a statement on its website. The proposed ad reads: "Don't let your dog or cat become an 'octomom.' Always spay or neuter."
KPCC reported Thursday morning that Suleman accepted PETA's offer.
Suleman earned the moniker "Octomom" after giving birth to octuplets on Jan 26, 2009, bringing her entire brood to 14, as she had six children already. All those kids makes her front yard an enticing location for PETA.
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DSOGaming writes: "It's really a shame that there are analysts such Michael Pachter out there that can affect the gaming industry. It's not because some might disagree with his opinions, but because this analyst is clueless and we are really puzzled why GameTrailers is 'promoting' this analyst. After countless of wrong assumptions for a huge number of topics, Pachter stated in his Pack Attack! show that gamers won't get any good games because they whined too much about ME3 and that no one out there has a PC as powerful as a PS3. Wait what?"
Update: This article is based on Pachter's old comment. That's why it's also an article and not a News story. Here is the quote for those interested in finding it. If mods believe that this article shouldn't be here, feel free to fail it.
"That comment from Pachter's twitter account – about PC gaming – was quite old (Pach Attack Episode 108 was the episode where Pachter addressed it, suggesting that 'most' PCs are not as powerful as PS3) but was brought to our attention by our reader Jean. Pachter explained that he meant "most" and that he is aware that a few have a PC more powerful than a PS3."
Hurr hurr. My PC can run circles around a PS3, 360, and Wii's combined power. And my PC isn't even considered top-tier as far as PCs go.
8-core AMD processor, 2 GB ATI Radeon card, 16 gigs of RAM (okay, that IS a bit overkill), and a RAID0 dual SSD. There are PCs much more powerful than mine.
Lol forget my desktop PC, My 3 year old laptop with the following specs:
2.4ghz dual core cpu (I5)
4 gigs ram
Takes PS3 or the Xbox 360 to the cleaners lol. Mind you laptop graphics are much weaker than the desktop counterpart.
When i am traveling i have all my games on my laptop (thx Steam, no need to carry around disks). Just plug the laptop onto any HDMI TV and it transforms into a supercharged console, play with any controller of choice DS3, Xbox controller, Wii controller lol.
Hell with the sort of specs being rumored for the next consoles i dont think even they will be able to beat my Desktop PC.
I have watched the video twice again and he doesn't make any reference to this. I might have missed it but at the moment this article is made up bull. Please source exactly where you think you heard this (at the author) because I couldn't find it
my pc won't out perform the ps3. Wii maybe but not the 360 and certainly not the PS3.
In fact, that is why I do my gaming on a console and not a PC. Console represents a low cost investment for entertainment where as I'd have to sink $$$$ into a real gaming PC.
No disrespect to those who have one but to me...it's just not worth it.
PC games usually cost less. Not to mention PC's do more than gaming.
Your investment would be far better. The only thing that's a con is that you need a certain console to play a certain exclusive.
Hook it up to a TV and you have yourself a far better entertainment center than the Ps3/360 will ever be.
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Please read the update before commenting blindly people....
yeah i know. i had been a PC gamer for quite some time. Especially back in the half life days. Played my fair share of things like counter strike and eventually half life 2.
The idea of building an even more up to date PC is there. I somehow just prefer console gaming. Maybe its the fact that my copy of a game will run exactly the same as the other guys who i would play against online.
Not to say that the PC has an unfair advantage but there are so many variables to take into consideration when building a gaming pc. you just dont have that when buying a PS3 or 360. aside from the various games and amenities of course.
Am i missing out on the highest possible visuals for a game like Crysis...? Sure. does it really matter if that isnt the game i play. Nope. I can tell you that when i was into half Life 2 on the PC it was when having a Radeon 9800Pro was the in thing. Obviously that is an old card by today's standards but it really was a great card.
I still have it in another PC but in my more 'current' one I have a 7900GS and yeah...it too is old but with the constant turn around on PC hardware it isnt cost effective (for me anyway) to try and stay ahead of the curve. Especially when you don't know where that curve is going.
My PC already is doing more than my console when it comes to non gaming related things. I dont need a bleeding edge gpu to surf the web or do my banking.
Im content with the console side and have been since the days of Pong. Its just something about the simplicity of just turning on the system to play a game and turning it off when you are done. No having to deal with if the PC will boot or get hung up on something trivial.
Like i said before. No disrespect to those who have a gaming PC. i used to be one of you, i just chose a different path now.
Yeah my pc is mid range now i have 3 6870's with 16 gigs of ram and AMD 1100T overclocked to 3.9gigs ( i dont have the power to run 4gigs)
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im sorry but 3 6870s in crossfire is not mid range. thats still definately an enthusiast pc setup. i have a amd 2 phenom 965 quadcore. 12 gigs of ram and a single radeon 5850. with 2TB hard drive
that is mid range.
Thing is, there really isn't a cure to stay ahead of in terms of PC gaming. Most games these days are multiplats ported over from the consoles. $40 for an HD4850 or a 9800GT or such will let you play these games maxed out no problem, or at least a couple of notches ahead of the graphics settings the consoles would use.
^Just realized the typo. I meant "curve" lol!
If Patcher is so "clueless" why make an article about him?
Why quote him at all?
Why interview him?
Either he's clueless and don't touch him anymore, or he's not and take everything he says with respect; don't interview and talk to him and then call him names like "clueless"; it just makes the interviewer looks stupid, not Patcher. Patcher is getting a check for his statements, he's not getting a check for talking to people trying to get hits off of his statements.
That's what he obviously meant.
Not everyone has high end PCs.
Core 2 Quad @ 2.4GHz
3GB Ram
720MB(roughly) 8800Gtx
Mine can also run rings around a Ps3/360 etc.
Mine is not powerful// It's old, outdated tech
How do I know it can run rings? Multiplats. Simple as that, Multiplats run/look better on it than on Ps3/360. Mass effect 3 looks way better, the FPS is very high etc Skyrim too and a host of other games
Patcher is quite stupid, 2007 ~ When mid - high tier gaming Pc's Outperformed the consoles. In 2005 and 6, Very high tier Pc's(multiple Gpus) outperformed the consoles too.
Honestly, the PC elitists are misguided. You guys should be focused on the games you guys miss out on every year that consoles get. I respect the power, and hope Consoles adapt that type of upgradable system philosophy, but PC's are only attractive to me when they have a great game that no other console has, which is rare.
Every Year I see PC Elitist fighting for some game to be pprted late to their system of choice, That's proof enough to me, that PC elitists only focus is on power. Most of you are shooter fanatics, and have nothing to do with the MMO/RTS crowd.
Speaking of which, that is basically what the PC is made up of MMO's RTS' Shooters. Simulators?(why even mention that) Most devs put their focus on Consoles, what was the last game of the Year that was PC exclusive? Most of the time they don't even have a game nominated for GOTY.
Complex is a negative if it the game lacks intuitiveness. Lets take Wow for example, MMO's like wow are becoming prehistoric, due to it's lack of intuitive gameplay. MMO devs are now trying to develope MMO's where actions play out like they are supposed to, instead of "LEGO toy" looking characters moving their arms and points poping up, now they want MMO's to play out like God Of War, with realistic, or logical gameplay.
Lol we have more games and more verity than any console out there.
You can knock the Wii out of the list or any nintendo console for that matter because we can emulate it.
We have most of the Xbox 360 console exclusives.
Its only PS3 which has some Sony funded games that dont make it to the PC, however if you look at any console gaming line up all you get is:
Shooter, Shooter, rpg, Shooter, third person shooter, Shooter, Platformer, Shooter, rpg, Racer, Shooter, Third person shooter.
Console gaming has become very casual, with most focus toward the wider audience.
PC on the other hand looks like this:
Shooter, RTS, MMO, Racer, Moba, Simulator, RPG etc
Hence while PC doesnt have some of the console exclusives, it does feature those genres in some way or the other. However consoles have no reply to the vast number of Genres the PC caters to.
Most games released on console are just to generic kid friendly, Try picking up a game like dota 2 on the PC, its so darn complex you wont find anything like it on console.
Pc gamers have access to much more content. We get mods, which in many cases take games to the stars and adds hours and hours of life to many games. My Skyrim bashes all both console versions and is fine tuned to what I like. Also many people have game systems and computers if we put those two costs into our one PC is really not that much more expensive. Plus PCs excel in RTS, FPS, & RPGs not to mention MMOs. a Camaro is a nice car but it's not a Ferrari. Get it?
"Its only PS3 which has some Sony funded games that dont make it to the PC"
This pretty much explains everything. I would love to have a great PC but since I don't have that much time to spend on gaming (and I lack the skills with computers) PS3 is by far the best for me.
Actually its console owners that miss out on games. PC has a much greater number/variety of games.
We do have the games and for alot less. The question should be do u have the games? FPS, RTS, much better on PC. Xbox 360 controller available if u need it.
Mods are cool, they also turn games into crap sometimes. Like I said before, it's all about the games, you get, and PC's lack games every year, and beg devs to get them late.
Also they barely ever have game of the year Candidates.
A pwerful engine with only 3 wheels.
No, no no. The PC has a deeper breadth and wider variety of games than any console on the market, both in terms of massive AAA exclusives, exquisite indie gems and everything in between. Cheaper.
I own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 and still use them for exclusives - and I won't try and pretend that I don't find the console experience much more convenient. But despite having to update the odd driver and upgrade every once in a while, my PC has pride of place.
If there are no games on PC that attract you, that's a-ok.
But PC has SO many exclusives. Notice how DayZ is the hot name everyone is talking about? That's is a MOD. When Witcher 2 hit 360 console gamers made such a huge deal out of it, but both Witcher games have been on PC for years. Minecraft? Metro 2033? On PC first.
And of course, you're neglecting the fact that on a current PC, I can play ANY PC game at ANY time, whereas on console the classics are handed out at a snail's-pace.
" That's proof enough to me, that PC elitists only focus is on power."
It's console people keeping the power thread going(Ps3 vs 360 and soon vs WiiU). It's the PC crowd laughing at them.
PC gamers are not without games. And if they truly want to play a console game. They get a console. It's really not that black and white as you make it out to be.
Most games this gen are multi plat, look at this holiday season, Dishonored, XCOM, AC3, Black Ops 2, Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman . All on pc and run at higher resolution and look far better.
It's funny how pc has more platformers than consoles now do to the rich indie gaming environment it creates..
Also since cod sells like crap on pc we get this
and you get 95% cod clones and other shooters who implement cod like features.
Horror is about dead on consoles, Splinter cell is not about stealth any more and now only MGS remain(and might come to pc), console have only one hardcore racing sim(on ps3) while pc has at least 3 coming, fighting games are sh!t that make you buy on disk dlc, pc has 2 open world survival zmobies game(day z, war z) and xbox has one(which looks casual in comparison), sports games are better on console yes, shooter? lol pc wins, strategy basically pc only, Name a great mech game on console?.... Pc gamer get this
only console worth having imo is sony's console since they for core gamers but still pc is much more than a power race & minecraft sold 7 million on pc.
Also you can better your ass red dead sequel will be on pc.
Planetside 2 is sony's first next gen shooter pc only..
I have over 50 games on steam and thats just on steam. I havent even played most of them yet lol. And i only payed like 9 bucks for them during steam sales and consoles had to pay 60 bucks for the same game lol.
You're right,most Pcs and laptop out compete the ps360 but consoles all have standard hardware and to access the hardware for a dev is easier,to kind if make a point ,does anyone remember the nvidia medusa demo?its rendering method is probably more advance compared to console games but the character models don't look any better than gow 3.
If he had said "The average computer owner does not have a computer with as powerful of a GPU as the HD consoles" he MIGHT have had some sort of point.
But anyway, didn't he say this like 2 years ago also? I'm thinking that GT is enjoying getting the hits whenever Pachter says something idiotic....probably asked him to say it again.
ALot of people's pc's even now are not as powerful, because alot of people don't buy expensive gpu's. The ones that come inside the pc are useless for gaming.
Myself i have a
i5 2500k @4.5ghz
6870 1gb
8gb kingston ram
Without a decent gpu, gaming isn't an option.
Yes.. Your PC. Now let's talk about the billion that don't.
All this man has to do is sit in an office, go to lunches with other people who sit in offices, make stuff up which doesn't have to be the least bit correct, present it to people who don't understand it, and collect a paycheck.
How do you mess that up so badly by bringing attention to yourself, show how often you get things wrong and overall that you have no understanding about what you're talking about?
I know... he's the luckiest bastard on earth. I want his job so bad.
Also: I didn't see an actual quote in the article, so I'm giving Pachter the benefit of the doubt until I see an actual quote. This is just tabloid nonsense.
That's an unbelievably perfect description of an analyst.
Well done.
for $299.99?
The reason why the "$299.99" statement doesn't work in favor of consoles is because:
At 299usd you are buying significantly old tech, which will cost you more per game to play. So yea if you only intend to buy 4-5 games for the console then yes console is cheaper.
However the tables quickly turn if you are a real gamer and would like to play many games a year. When every game bought on PC is cheaper, PC quickly becomes the cheapest platform to game on.
A PC that runs circles around a console can be built for 500usd, thats not a whole lot more expensive.
Sadly, it seems that PC games (multi-plat ones, anyway) are starting to cost the standard console price of $59.99. However, PC games do tend to have more deals and drop in price more quickly (usually because they don't sell quite as well).
Unless you are pirating games (which, granted, is far easier on PC), the cost-per-game argument is only semi-valid.
Just wait a month after launch games that are 60 on pc dont survive that long unless it's a EA game. Even then they have to give up because PC players know better than to buy those 60 dollar games at launch. Crysis 2 for example i didnt buy it at 60 dollars i waited 2 months and got it at 29 dollars.
That's it Gametrailers. You can void his contact now.
cmon he's right most people buy pc's for internet,music,video they have a shitty gpu/cpu at least the people i know, not everybody has a 580, 8-core rig
Thats because PCs are very flexible machines:
want to:
Play games - done
Work - done
Edit videos - done
Surf the Web - done
Since PCs can be used for multiple tasks and not everyone plays games sure you will see many PCs that do not feature a discrete GPU at all. However check stats on Steam there are millions of people owning DX10 - DX11 capable GPUs.
If not many people bought those GPUs then Nvidia and AMD wouldnt waste the resources making new GPUs every year.
Trolling right? I really hope you're trolling. Don't need a 580 8-core rig to run circles around this gen.
I think he means at 249.99 there isnt.
I agree with him on that point.
For $249.99 you can get both a new graphics card and a bit of extra RAM that would make your PC outclass any console.
That's the problem: console gamers think that every time a PC gamer upgrades, they upgrade their entire PC and spend $1500+ (admittedly, some PC gamers do). For me, I've spent LESS on PC gaming hardware over the last 6 years than I've spent on console hardware.
Madmen's point stands. You can not simply slap a gpu and memory into any pc and call it a day. Particularly older PCs. That may be the case once you've built or purchased a suitable rig, but you can't just crack open any PC and fill it with upgrades.
@ InTheLab
Yes, you cannot simply slap a GPU and memory into a PC and call it a day. For instance, you can't magically make a Pentium 4 PC into a modern gaming monster. However, a P4 is over 10 years old.
But at least the option is there. When PS3 came out, it's not like I had the option to upgrade my PS2. I had to start fresh. On the other hand, when it came time for me to upgrade my PC, there were a number of things I didn't need to buy. I bought the parts I needed. And a PC rig from even 3 years ago can be easily made to outclass consoles for less than $300.
You SO miss the point. That's $249 TOTAL as is out of the box. Nice try though. That's a Cell, 1080p, Blu-Ray machine.
Wow,one of the dumbest comments he ever made.
I love my pc and play a lot of games in steam, but correct me if I'm wrong but the Cell is still better than the latest Intel cpus. Or am I wrong?
I'm not saying that the PS3 is more powerful than the PC but the CELL CPU is.
Currently, AMD has an 8-core processor and Intel has a 4-core something. Both are significantly more powerful than TEH CELL, but that's not saying much, considering that CELL is 6 years old.
Pretty sure the 8 core i7 in my laptop outclasses the cell.
3.6ghz with turbo bost is a lot. Although all around, the 360 and ps3 are more powerful (laptop uses intel HD 4000 graphics) than my laptop.
Thing surprised me though playing cod 4, css, half life 2, portal 2 and gotham city impostors maxed out without a damn gpu lol.
haven't heard of an 8-core i7 for laptops, what's the model number?
are you sure it's 8 actual cores or you just have hyperthreading turned on?
anyway, Pachter is only partially correct, now if he specified 'most game' PCs, there would be trouble...
8 cores in a laptop right now is only hyperthreading. I just got a AW laptop for gaming and this is definitely the case.
The latest i7 Ivy bridges are 4 cores or 8 theoretical CPU's (hyperthreaded).
Regardless, most modern and semi modern CPU's are sitting on their a$$ in 90% of games, GPU's is still usually the bottleneck.
Oh here we go......
I just watched the whole video linked in the post and couldn't find the quote in question. Someone please tell me what time in the video it is at so I don't have to read that site's worthless dribble ("But you already know that, unless of course you're a fanboy which brings the question – is Pachter a Sony fanboy?"). Provide some context next time instead of pulling a quote out of thin air.
That's kind of sad....
I wonder if his career is over after all the developers read this. So long Pach-attack.
Gtx 560
16gb ram
More powerful than a PS3?, yes..
But would it be as powerful as it is, if I only spent $250 on it?, heck no...
Unless, I only wanted Ram, and a GPU... Then I wouldnt have a case, or a motherboard to put those in or a psu and cpu to power it...
More powerful yes ,but not at $250 bucks it ain't...
Michael Pachter........
No need to say more.
Why is he in the gaming industry to begin with? He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
Look at all the panty twisting going on here, making people proclaim what they have and how its teh bests.
I have watched this video and now have watched it a second time, and I have also to see this statement hence anything beyond this point is nil.
And why haven't you read the article (which provides the places where that comment was and how it was addressed later on) and went over to watch the latest episode of Pack Attack? This is not a news story, it's an article. So there must be something in that article that explains it, right?
Sir, I have read your article, but more importantly given you the hit, you're welcome. Pretty presumptuous to think I wouldn't read an article just because it sits behind a Click Past ad.
The article pulls meaning out of what Pachter says with totally forgetting what Pachter's profession is or how it works. Although you do you use the word "analyst". I'm not trying to disprove you or start an argument, I just think you fail you see from his side, aside from whatever comes out of his mouth, or assumed fingertips.
It also doesn't help your game journalist/blogster/whatever credibility to question if "Pachter is a PS3 fanboy?". Really dude?
@SandwichHammock: appologies if that comment seemed aggresive man, it wasn't. It's just that the article had information suggesting that the comment was not on the latest episode, and your comment obviously puzzled me. About the question though, well, those who will have an issue with it will be fanboys. Let me explain though before hammering me:
This question has - obviously - two answers: Yes and No (and perhaps a Maybe). Naturally, some will go with the first one while others with the second. If you are not a fanboy, then you probably won't care about the answer to such a question (especially when someone is simply making a question and is not providing an answer to it). In other words, this question is addressed to the reader, and he should decide for himself. In addition, the article does not state that Pachter is a fanboy. Just that he's wrong.
Wow... Clueless I swear! This guy is always good for a laugh. I can't believe this guy is employed, he has such a narrow view of what reality is. Oh well, to each his own...
LOL talk about clueless.. this writer is clueless. He sights kickstarter as some showing of PC gaming dollars not drying up. Dude get a clue.. PC gaming beyond WOW has next to NO advertising dollars from publishers. Kickstarter is privately funded games for indie devs for the most part. The money generated there is dwarfed by the money generated by the big publishers.
I have no doubts that all the people on this thread have PC's that are more powerful than a PS3. This is a site that is visited by heavy gaming enthusiasts. OF COURSE the majority here have powerful PC's. N4G =/= the general population. N4G is about the size of a zit on an ass in comparison.
As for the Doctors comments and the complainers of the ME3 ending. I fully believe the Doctors left in direct response to that whole mess. One of them leaving could have been coincidence but both leaving together on the heels of that shit storm? Nope...they were tired of the bullsh*t and together said f*ck it. If you are leaving I am leaving cause this ain't worth it.
PC is an ever evolving monster. Consoles can't be expected to maintain a 10yr life cycle and compete with pc, unless someday consoles are hardware upgradable. In which case you just as well have a PC.
So your pc is 10 years old and plays this gen games? Seems legit
Well thats just silly, this gen of consoles isn't yet 10yrs old. I would bet that a 6 yr old PC can out perform this gen consoles (some or all games for the consoles were/are made on pc).
Okay, lets see a pc from 2005 with the same specs as a console, run games now. Oh wait, it wouldnt even manage to turn on with only 512mb of ram.
People forget to realise that consoles dont need "teh power" that pcs need to keep up.


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text: Media, Sport and Entertainment Intelligence - April 2016 Media, Sport and Entertainment Intelligence Share this 5 APR 2016 By: Nick Fitzpatrick Prof Dr Stefan Engels Jamie Ryder Robynne Sanders Richard van Schaik Patrick Mitchell Peter C. White Scott Thiel Frank W. Ryan Welcome to the latest issue of Media, Sport and Entertainment Intelligence, offering you a selection of the latest and most impactful sector news worldwide. Looking ahead The latest US sales report for the music industry has been released, showing annual revenues are still hovering around the US$7 billion mark, as they have since 2010. But what has been changing is how the sales are divided – downloads and CDs are being pushed out by streaming, which now makes up around a third of music revenue. To put this in perspective, despite serious concerns about the longevity of the streaming business model, and despite the 84 per cent drop in CD sales in the last decade, overall music sales have stayed steady. As always, the UK Budget announcement created some changes for the Media, Sport and Entertainment industries. This time, the major impact was the announcement of new funding arrangements for British horseracing. The changes are designed to create a level playing field for British-based and offshore gambling operators and will amend the current Horserace Betting Levy. The new funding model is expected to come into force in April 2017, with a statutory instrument being published at the end of this year. In Australia, the federal government has announced a media reform package which aims to protect local content in regional Australia and introduce an incentive for content to be filmed in the local area. Its intention is to support the viability of local media businesses as they face increasing competition from less regulated services and new forms of distribution. The legislation would abolish the "reach rule," which prevents broadcasters from reaching more than 75 per cent of the population. Abolishing this rule would allow regional TV and radio stations to shore up their finances by merging with larger, metropolitan outlets. It also would remove the two-out-of-three rule – which prevents media proprietors from simultaneously owning print, radio and television outlets in one market; this would increase the pool of capital available to outlets amid dramatic changes in the media landscape. And in Italy, there are interesting opportunities for broadcasters, especially via DTT (digital terrestrial television). New slots on the channels line-up will be allocated in the next months, in particular for newcomers. Germany is currently debating a very interesting trade mark case that could impact the MSE sector. The German Federal Supreme Court (BGH) will soon hear arguments around this question: has the color red acquired distinctiveness through use in Germany (in particular based on a consumer survey) and does the burden of proof of such a proceeding rest with the trade mark proprietor? After referral to the CJEU, the Federal Patent Court had denied "Sparkassen-Red" (a shade of red used by a bank in its branding for decades) any distinctiveness and decided that the trade mark proprietor, DSGV, failed to prove otherwise. This highly debated proceeding, and the awaited BGH judgment, could have a major impact on the registration and maintenance of trade marks registered on the basis of acquired distinctiveness in Germany. The Australian major football codes (National Rugby League, Australian Football League and Australian Rugby Union) have taken steps to protect players from the risk of concussion injuries, with stricter return-to-play policies introduced – this despite no concussion injury litigation having come before any Australian courts. Many have questioned whether enough is being done, and the possibility of claims and/or class actions exists. In more sports news, in the US the NBA is, apparently, moving closer to putting corporate logos as advertisements on player jerseys. This is being spurred on by a report conducted by Repucom that found teams in Europe's top football (soccer) leagues generated US$930 million this season alone just from shirt sponsorship, up 13 per cent from last year. According to the report, foreign investment is driving the growing shirt sponsorship market, with 62 per cent of the revenue derived from deals for companies based outside the team's home market. The United Arab Emirates is the top market, with companies investing $183 million, followed by Germany (US$152 million) and the US (US$97 million). And finally, the European Commission has launched an open consultation to help bring EU copyright rules up to speed with the digital age. They are looking at the role of publishers in the copyright value chain and are also considering an extension of the neighbouring rights (similar to copyright, but they do not reward an author's original creation) to publishers. This would give publishers the same rewards currently enjoyed by performers, film producers, record producers and broadcasting organisations from either the performance of a work or an organisational or financial effort. Other news Keep an eye on THE HUB for updated content for both Germany and Sweden which will be launched in the coming month. The next batch of webinar topics and dates will be launched in a few weeks; again, keep an eye on THE HUB for more details.