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This one is not bad
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No no no i think This the right place, just give people time. There are LOTS of incredibly hot mmf stories here on Lite. Saw this this morning - dont have time right now to go back and list some favorite authors and their stories - will try to bi the weekend. Butt there are stories here that Definitely are articulate and extremely arousing. Think this Will become a very hot thread; I look forward to seeing others posting their favorites here. Sorry i cant post any now, I will!
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Karen and I had been living together for about six months when
she told me her ex-boyfriend Adam was coming back to town for a
visit. I told her I was cool with that, and even agreed to let
him stay at our apartment on the couch.
He is a big guy -- about 6'5" and 285 lb., with thick black hair and
huge legs and arms. He and I got along right away. There was none
of the tension I expected.
In the middle of the night I was awakened by movement in the bed.
I was shocked to find Adam on top of Karen right there in the bed
beside me, screwing her slow and deep. They had kicked back the
covers and both were completely naked. Karen's nightgown was
wadded at the pillows and her knees were spread wide to
accommodate him, his big ass rising and falling as he plowed her
I was pissed. I demanded to know what was going on, and Karen
just panted that she was sorry, but that his cock was so big she
just couldn't resist a reunion with it. Her fingers were digging
into his muscular ass as she wheezed. I could see the shaft of
his cock as he withdrew it and was amazed by its girth. I could
only imagine its length.
Adam looked over at me and asked if I was jealous. I said I sure
as hell was. He caught me completely off guard when he said he
could fix that. Before I knew what was happening he had flipped
me to my stomach like a rag doll and was stripping my briefs down
to my thighs while straddling the backs of my legs. "I don't want
you to be jealous of Karen, so I'll let you have some of this big
old dick for yourself."
I fought fiercely as he gripped his big wet cock in his fist and
wiped it between my ass cheeks, aligning the fat head against my
butt hole, but I could not overpower him. His strength was
unbelievable as he gripped my hips and firmly forced his fat
flesh up my fanny. I screamed in pain and begged him to stop,
trying to grip my ass closed to prevent invasion, but still it
slid deeper into me.
It seemed like it took forever for him to hit bottom, but finally
I felt his big, hairy balls pressing against my ass cheeks. I
felt like I had a telephone pole crammed up my butt as he lay on
top of me like a wrestler.
When he started to work it in and out I tried once again to fight
him off, as I panicked at the awareness that I was being raped.
He rode me like a horse, translating my insolence into vigorous
participation. "I just love it when they fuck back," he told
My tortured butthole began to grow accustomed to the thick
intruder, and soon he was thrusting into me as easily as a cunt.
As numbness set in and the pain flared less bright, I found
myself beginning to submit to him. My opposition slowly turned to
cooperation as I met his deep thrusts by pushing my ass back
against him. "You like that big cock, don't you?" he asked.
"Mmmmm...," was all I could answer as my hard cock rubbed against
the sheets in rhythm with his thrusts.
"I believe we got us a closet boy here," he told Karen. She just
giggled and told me she was glad I was finding out how great it
felt to be fucked by a horse dick.
Adam and I sweated together for more than thirty minutes as he
fucked me into oblivion. His staying power was incredible. He
maintained a vigorous pace, driving his big meat in to the balls
and only paused twice to stall an imminent orgasm. He explained
that he wanted to break me in right. I, on the other hand, came
twice, squirting a puddle of jism on the sheets.
He finally pulled me up to my knees so he could fuck me like a
dog. I bounced against him as our balls slapped together until he
unloaded a torrent of hot cum deep into my sore ass. He continued
to pump me, forcing the sticky juice out my ass and onto my balls
and down my thighs. I fell asleep with his hard cock still up my
Over the next several days Adam continued to break me in, fucking
my ass several times a day and teaching me how to deep throat his
enormous tool all the way to the balls, something that Karen had
never mastered. I discovered that I loved the salty taste of his
thick cum and craved it often. Luckily he seemed to have an
endless supply. At the end of every meal he would stand and move
beside me, his always-hard pole bouncing in my face. He would
smile and say, "Time for dessert, buddy," and I would greedily
coax the delicious cream up from his huge eggs.
After cumming down my throat he loved to go straight for my tight
ass, using a little fresh cum I had saved to lube that monster
dong of his. We both knew that so soon after cumming he could
last much longer. Lifting me like a little boy, he would lay me
on my back on the dining table with my eager ass hanging over the
edge. Holding my ankles high in the air with one hand, like
changing a baby's diaper, he would push his hard pole into my
trembling body like a freight train slowly entering a deep dark
tunnel. With his knees bent he would work his long dick from the
ridge of the apple-sized head all the way to the beer can base,
banging his big balls against my blissful butt. He never touched
my throbbing cock because it wasn't necessary. The pounding of
his pole against my prostate brought me more intense orgasms than
I'd ever known. He could fuck the cum out of me three times
before filling my fuck chamber with his hot sauce.
Karen grew jealous of our constant coupling, complaining that she
never got any dick anymore. She loved to watch us fuck, saying it
turned her on to see my dick erupt without being touched, but she
wanted that big dick stretching her cunt too. When Adam consented
I would feel my own jealousy rise, surprised that it bothered me
to share this wonderful man. I would insist that they fuck doggy
style so I could crawl underneath and lick the underside of his
beautiful tool as it slid in and out of her expanded beaver. He
rarely came inside her, preferring my hungry mouth, but when he
did I sucked out every drop from her steaming cavity, determined
to swallow all of my lover's tasty goo.
When the three of us went to a movie Adam sat in the middle. A
half hour into the movie he whispered that he had some hot butter
for my popcorn if I was interested. Karen was shocked to see me
bend over and suck his luscious sausage right there in the
theatre. She knew that I didn't even like to kiss her in public.
It wasn't long before my mouth was filled with the hot squeeze
butter and I neatly tucked the softening dispenser back into his
I never took a shower without a large cock buried up my ass. Adam
could lift me in his powerful arms and fuck me flat-footed, my
arms around his strong neck and my legs wrapped around his waist,
working short, deep strokes with his pelvis slapping my wet ass
cheeks. We could fuck like that till the water turned cold before
getting out and finishing with me bent over the sink.
I had called in sick to work for a week so that Adam and I could
make more use of our time, and we wasted none of it. When Karen
would leave us in the morning my ass would be stuffed with cock,
and when she returned in the evening she would find us the same
way. "Didn't you even take it out today?" she would tease, but I
sensed a growing animosity in her voice.
One afternoon I returned to the den after a trip to the bathroom,
stopping in the doorway with a strange new feeling in my stomach.
Adam was sitting on the sofa with his head thrown back and his
eyes closed, exhausted for once following a long lunchtime fuck
on the kitchen table. We had no need for clothes and I stared
hungrily at the heavy penis lying across his muscular thigh. That
powerful appendage had been the center of my universe for the
past week, and it stirred my limp organ back to life. But before
I moved closer to it, I paused to admire the rest of his gorgeous
body. God, he was beautiful. With a sudden ache in my chest I
began to realize that something inside me had changed.
I had never before been attracted sexually to another guy. For
the last week I had willingly submitted to Adam, worshipping his
cock with my mouth and eagerly welcoming it into my body,
consuming his potent seed with either end. But I done so because
it was so physically satisfying to me. I had experienced
countless anal orgasms more intense than any feeling I had ever
known, and even taking his meaty member into my mouth and
drinking his savory semen had been for my own pleasure. But now I
realized with illogical surprise that I had fallen in love with
this man who had forcefully taken my cherry and taught me how to
quench his vast sexual appetite.
I wanted him. Not just his dick, which I had had in abundance, I
wanted all of him. I wanted him to want all of me. I didn't want
to fuck, like we had so many times. I wanted to make love.
Tears leaked from my eyes as I crossed the room and quietly knelt
at his feet. Taking his long, flaccid cock in my fist I gently
fed it into my mouth, working it in deeply with my wet lips and
tongue. The talents I had honed in my short cock-sucking career
quickly brought the steel back to his wonderful organ. He moaned
his approval, keeping his head back and his eyes closed. My salty
tears mixed with his salty pre-cum as I efficiently soaked his
tool with slippery spit.
When I stood and began to climb onto him, straddling his lap with
my knees on either side of his warm thighs, he chuckled and
quietly asked, "Again? You trying to wear me out?"
"Shh...," I whispered. "Just lay back and enjoy." The words
clogged in my throat as I allowed my emotions to escape their
accustomed restraint. I reached behind me and took the thick
shaft in my fist, feeding it slowly into my hungry ass. My
tingling ass lips sweetly kissed the blunt head before spreading
into a wide yawn to swallow the bloated python. With my hands on
his broad shoulders I lowered myself onto my lover, savoring the
amazing sensations as his huge cock opened me up. This was the
first time that he had entered me slowly, and I relished the new
feelings. I could feel the progress of the knob as it bored
deeper into my expanding channel, squeezing past my sensitized
prostate, and the sizzling burn at the junction where his wide
shaft once again stretched my tight anal sphincter. It seemed
that the air was pushed out of me as the flesh was pushed in,
leaving me dizzy and breathless.
We groaned together as I settled onto his large balls like a mama
bird on her nest, completely engulfing his mammoth meat inside
me. With my eyes tightly closed and my body still, I concentrated
on massaging his cock with the muscles of my ass. "Oh, yes," he
purred indulgently as I gently squeezed his erection. His hands
were still at his sides, and I eased my hands lightly to his
sides, sliding them slowly around his back as I leaned forward
into him. Our sweaty chests pressed together and my aching
erection pressed against his abdomen as I held him in a warm
embrace. Without hesitation I brought my lips to his throat and
delicately kissed. He suddenly stirred, obviously confused at the
tenderness of my actions.
Before he could respond further I tightened my bear hug and
buried my wet face into his neck, snuggling and kissing as I
shivered against his warm body. He felt my tears on his neck and
quickly brought his big hands to my sides and raised his head.
"You're crying... What's wrong?" He tried to push me away to look
me in the eyes, but I held fast, stamping light kisses along his
neck, jaw, and ear while sobbing openly. His wonderful hands slid
down my damp back and cupped my round cheeks with a gentle
squeeze before returning to caress my back. "Baby, what's wrong?"
he asked again.
He had never called me "baby" before, and I sobbed even harder,
lost in my emotions for this marvelous man. I brushed my lips
against his ear and whispered softly, "Oh, Adam, I love you so
much." He remained silent as I wiped my tears against his cheek.
His long fingers enclosed my ass cheeks, and he turned his face
slightly toward mine. With our eyes closed we both exhaled, our
hot breath mingling around our noses.
His hands moved to my face, caressing the path they traveled, and
he wiped away my tears with his thumbs. "Don't cry, baby," he
"I can't help it," I answered. "I'm so happy." There was pain in
my heart, though, as I considered that his feelings for me did
not exceed the lust we had so often and eagerly sought to
satisfy. I suddenly felt it necessary to apologize for loving
him. "I'm sorry," I breathed.
"For what?" he asked, pulling my face in front of his, locking
our eyes for the first time since I had climbed upon him. I
didn't answer. I didn't need to, for in his eyes I saw the sudden
realization that I had discovered in myself as I stood in the
doorway looking at him moments earlier. An hour earlier our
entire relationship had been based on the sex act, but now there
was so much more.
There was love. Real love. Something neither of us had ever
expected, nor experienced before, with either gender. He had seen
the love in my eyes and had reflected it right back at me. We
stared in amazement for long minutes, seeing each other for the
first time. I broke the silence.
"I want you," I whispered, our noses touching.
"You've got me," he smiled sexily, his big hands returning to cup
and squeeze my ass cheeks to remind me that his entire erection
was *****ded inside me.
"I love it when you fuck me, but right now I want you to make
love to me." The hunger in my eyes was clear. I wanted to prove
my love to this man as much as I wanted him to prove his for me.
He tilted his head slightly and moved forward, bringing his lips
close enough to touch mine as he spoke, "I'm going to love the
shit out of you." I inhaled his hot breath as our lips faintly
danced. And then his lips pressed against mine and we began to
kiss in earnest. Our tongues found each other at once, and we
fell into a ritual ceremony of kissing unlike anything I had ever
experienced with a woman.
I raised myself up on his column of flesh and eased back down
again with excruciating lethargy as we devoured one another,
hands on faces and tongues rolling like tangled eels. Adam's big
hands returned to my ass cheeks, pulling then wider apart to
admit him even deeper. He met my every stroke as I rode him in
slow motion, pulling and squeezing with the muscles of my ass,
transporting our passion to undiscovered realms.
We had struggled long and hard to express our immense passion
when Adam sought a new position. Still cupping my ass to keep his
cock buried inside me, and never breaking our fiery kiss, he
lifted me with him and laid me down on my back on the sofa. He
quickly pulled my legs up to rest on his shoulders and continued
our beautiful lovemaking. I thought he might revert to the
brutal, rapid fucking pace we had practiced and enjoyed so much,
but his speed was languorous and loving.
With more room to move he could work his long cock fully, often
pulling from balls-deep all the way to the tip, popping the wet
bulb completely past my anus and allowing my ass lips to contract
with a smacking sound. He never broke contact, both of us loving
the feeling as my nether lips kissed and nibbled and sucked at
the pink, puffy knob of his manhood. I worked my man-pussy
expertly to suck him back into me, groaning into his mouth as he
filled me with cock and I met his balls with my widespread ass.
The heat from his beautiful penis radiated to my very core as I
wallowed in the ecstasy of being totally stuffed full of it.
My own throbbing cock was squeezed tightly between our sweating
bodies, rubbing deliciously against the rippled muscles of Adam's
abdomen. After making love for almost an hour, my cock suddenly
erupted, coating our heaving chests with hot cum. The wild
contractions in my ass triggered Adam's own thundering climax,
making him jab my roaring prostate as he flooded my bowels with a
huge, hot load. His unleashed passion caused him to lightly bite
my tongue, which had never left his wonderful mouth.
Keeping his softening cock buried in my twitching ass, he finally
broke contact with my mouth. He brushed my hair back while
searching my eyes with his. "I love you," he said suddenly,
blurting it out like it was a surprise.
"I know," I smiled broadly.
"No, I mean I really love you." He sounded like he was trying to
convince himself that it was really true, looking past me at
something far away. When he noticed my puzzled expression he
tried to explain. "I've never said that to anyone and really
meant it."
"I haven't either."
He could see that I was uncomfortable still folded in half, so he
gently pulled his thick, limber cock from my ass and pulled us
both up until I was sitting across his lap, our arms still
wrapped around each other and my head resting on his big
shoulder. "I've never even wanted to love someone before," he
went on. "I was always just looking for a good fuck. I never
cared whether I hurt someone's feelings. I never wanted a
relationship. I was too cocky for that."
"With a cock like that, who could blame you," I joked.
"I'm serious."
"Damn... ," he whispered, still trying to believe it. "I love
you. All I was after was a good fuck. I love to buttfuck." I
smiled, thinking I was the last person on Earth he needed to tell
that. He went on, "And God, were you ever a good fuck. I've never
been with anyone like you before. I've fucked a couple of faggots
before, but they couldn't hold a candle to you. You sure you
never took it up the ass before me?"
"Positive. I think I would know. I've never even been in the same
room with another guy who was naked."
"And the blowjobs... God, after the first couple of tries you
were incredible," he flattered me. "Nobody could ever do my big
cock justice. You were a natural. You're the only person I've
ever been with that could keep up with me. Every time I wanted it
you were ready. I haven't cum so many times in my life."
"Neither have I," I returned. "I've been horny since that first
time. It's like I can't get enough of you."
"Me too," he echoed. "I miss you when you're in the next room. I
can't imagine not waking up next to you. I love you," he stated
"I love you too," I whispered, pulling his mouth back to mine.
That was the night he left.
As soon as Karen came in from work he said his good-byes and
quietly walked out the door.
I didn't mind, because that afternoon I had packed my bags as
well. They were already in his... our car. I kissed Karen
goodbye, and went with him, not knowing or caring where we would
end up, so long as his wonderful cock and my hungry mouth and
willing ass were together.
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or this one
This must predominately me my interest.
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4 star rating
Out of the stories posted thus far, I would give 4 stars to the One with the girlfriends ex boyfriend.
Hopefully some more people can have time to post their favorite story...
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I can say from experience, this one is hot hot hot.
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here's one.
Tina walked into the room and filled her glass and then set down in a chair across from me. After some small talk Tina got up and left the room. After a few minutes she came back in dressed in this black see through crotch less cat suit. Her tits were awesome. Small but well rounded and appeared to be very firm. Nice light colored nipples that looked hard as a rock. Her pussy was closely trimmed and my cock was starting to get hard. So, you want to watch us have sex , she asked? I was speechless. I looked over at Sean who was sitting there grinning. Well, he asked? All I could do was nod my head. Tina then came over to the couch where Sean and I were sitting.
She stood in front of us and turned in a circle letting us eye her all over. She turned her back to me and bent over slipping her hand between her legs. She laid her middle finger in her slit and I watched her finger disappear inside her cunt. As she pilled her finger out she turned and touched my lips. I licked the wetness from her finger and she cooed as I sucked her finger into my mouth. After a few minutes of modeling for us she then kneeled between Seans legs and begin to rub his crotch. She unzipped his pants and pulled them off along with his underwear and his cock sprang to half-mast. Ooh, she purred. She then took his cock in her hands and kissed the head of his cock. Looking over at me she smiled and winked. She then licked the underside of his cock all the way from his balls to the head. He was completely hard by now and I wasnt far behind.
She then slid his cock into her mouth and began to suck it so slowly up and down. As I watched her sucking his cock I must have been mesmerized by what I was seeing. I saw her look up at me and as she pulled his cock from her lips and again she smiled and winked at me. She leaned up towards me and kissed me and pulled me down to the floor with her. She took my hand and placed it between her silky thighs and slid it up to her sweet cunt. As I slowly rubbed her clit she whispered Now watch me closely. Her eyes turned back to his rigid staff and as she slowing slid her hand from the base to the tip a large amount of clear fluid poured out the tip. She deftly licked up most of it with the tip of her tongue. She then moved towards me and as she kissed me again, this time she opened her mouth and slipped her tongue into my mouth. I could taste the fluid that came from his cock as she ran her tongue inside my mouth. I sucked on her tongue to get as much as possible from it.
I couldnt believe I was so turned on by this. I had never thought about having any kind of a bi-sexual experience but I had a feeling that she had other plans. She smiled and winked at me again as she repeated the whole process. As she feed me his precum again she pulled me closer to the action. She began to rub the tip of his cock between our lips and as we pulled apart she began to rub his cock on my lips. Her hand held me behind the neck but I offered no resistance. She began to lick the tip as she rubbed it on my lips and as I opened my mouth she slid the tip of it into my mouth. As I closed my lips around the hard member she slid her hand up and down the shaft. I heard Sean moan and another large amount of fluid poured out onto my tongue. I swirled my tongue around the tip of his cock, savoring the taste.
She then gently pushed the back of my neck and I took the lead. I reached up and wrapped my hand around the base of his shaft and began to jack him off as I sucked up and down. I couldnt believe what I was doing. On my knees sucking this hard cock while this gorgeous girl watched and to top it off I was enjoying it. I liked the way the head would swell inside my mouth and the way the veins would pulse against my tongue. As I became more at ease I began to suck his cock deeper into the back of my throat and would slowly slid it out sucking firmly until the head would just about slip past my lips. I swirled my tongue around the head and then I would bury the shaft in my mouth until finally my lips came all the way to the base. I could hear his breathing getting heavy and knew I must be doing something right.
Tina began to nozzle her way back into the action so I took one last long suck and tried to retrieve all his cum I could. She took over and then after a few moments she offered his cock to me. I sucked him in again and we took turns sucking and watching. As I took another turn sucking him she whispered in my ear. Want to go all the way, she asked? I slid my mouth off his cock and nodded my head. She smiled and winked again this time going at his cock with a new vigor. Sean was really breathing hard and I knew he was close to cumming. She then pulled me close and stuck his cock into my mouth once again holding me by the back of my neck. A hot shot of cum hit me in the mouth and I swallowed it. She knew he was cumming and let me up and took a load herself. I was surprised by the pleasant taste of his cum. She then offered me the next one and I took it whole heartily. I pumped his shaft and sucked each drop from the tip of his cock until to my disappointment he was dry. Tina then pulled me up and kissed me again running her tongue all around my mouth as we swapped his sweet cum.
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I like almost all of Danielblue's bi mmf stories. His stuff is super hot.
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shameless plug
for one of mine.
link might be in my sig too.
Story about a female attorney who takes on a second job
D'orr's - Ch. 2
Liz expands the client base of her second job
contains some m/m sex, so if that bothers you skip over this one
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I don't mean to be pretentious but I think that I write some of the best bi-sexual MMF stories out there. Just look me up and you'll see.
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That was a good one...
Really like the stories where first time for guy, girl encouraging...
I really just have to write one myself..
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How about the woman not just encouraging but practically insisting upon her husband sucking cock??!!
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Great stories guys. loved each of them. Made me fotter than a hotcracker!
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nice ones again..
Not big on the Cross dressing thing but still hot..
I wonder if we have one from a female author?
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I have written some
Mostly real life experience, but no bi sex - more of the "I'm greedy" thing..If you're interested I'll post one of them
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Man - that's the 3rd time today!
Sorry, didn't realize where I was -
No offense meant at all..sorry to intrude..
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I've read stories by Ken James. "CowBoys Don't Kiss" was highly erotic. He's great !!!! Someone else wrote "The Art of Compromising". It described my life story, except it's Medieval instead of modern times. Good fics !!!!
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Stories by TexWiller are hot. They have bi-male content.
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New Porcelain Commands
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Singers who can't sing
Can we make a definitive list of singers who objectively can't sing
I don't mean singers whose voices you don't like, I mean singers who really can't sing. Obviously there are horrible artists who can really sing and great artists who can't so there's no value judgement here
Mark E Smith
Lou Reed
who else?
Would you include people like
Neil Tennant
Bernard Sumner
80s Mozza
80s Marc Almond
for example?
Yes to all of those
with the exception of Morrissey
Neil Tennant? Really?
I know he's not a great singer but to say he 'ojectively can't sing' is going a bit far. If he's included then you'd also have to have people like Malkmus, Bobby Gillespie , Ian Brown...the list could go on forever.theguywithnousername, georgiabeth, -gen-, JaguarPirate, and AfraidOfOwls this'd this
Ian Brown definitely can't sing
Bobby Gillespie can bang out a tune
Malkmus is definitely borderline
ha malkmus CAN sing
just likes doing impressions of mes/lou reedJaguarPirate this'd this
I don't think it's massively important whether someone can sing to be a good vocalist
but I can't see any way that Tennant is a technically worse singer than Morrissey.
having seen them both live
Tennant is definitely, technically a lot worse
It's not so pronounced on record though
Bob Dylan
He's borderline although I can't actually handle his voice nowadays.ajb123 and JaguarPirate this'd this
He proper couldn't sing at first though.
Ditto Leonard Cohen, who's now pretty much got the best voice on Earth.
Yeah Dylan is the obvious one for me
Also Neil Young. Isaac Brock?
Seems to me Dylan can't be arsed with singing live.
on tempest he was still cracking out the tunes.
Neil Young?
Yellow card!rainmaker this'd this
Isaac Brock
dunno if he can exactly sing, but he has a lot of range
- gonad, Oissin_, shinymcshine, monoshono, vamos, and Tiresias42 this'd this
tend to agree - a lot of my favourite singers can't really sing but can definitely express themselves with their voice
but obviously the best ones can do bothNickDS and JaguarPirate this'd this
I'm deeply suspicious of male singers with pretty voices
is it because they arouse you?
actually, no.
compared to the examples in the OP, this is probably a tad harsh.
He just sings low when he should probably sing an octave higher and scream a bit more. Like the cribs do.
Singing that low has often rendered a lot of really great Ash songs dull to me. Which is a shame because he's written quite a few good songs over the years. Numbskull is the way he should sing more.
He used to be pretty weak in the early days but tbf he was very young
He's a pretty good singer now esp live.
Wayne Coyne
...though he freely admits at and he does have his moments. I love his voice all the same. Nick Cave wasn't that great until he learnt to sing amazingly some time around No More Shall We Part.Antelope this'd this
Just thought of another
That Niki whatserface from Factory Floor
she REALLY can't sing
Repair is the dream of the broken thing.
Like a message broadcast on an overpass
All my favorite singers couldn't sing.
The recent doves thread
Has reminded me that jimi Goodwin is a terrible singer.AfraidOfOwls this'd this
I seem to remember
The fella from Clap Your Hands Say Yeah having one of the worst voices I'd ever heard...
David Yow. Ironically The Jesus Lizard/Scratch Acid would sound
crap if he could sing.DaddyorChips and moshymoshy this'd this
Yes and yes.
Part of the charm if you ask me :D
- moker this'd this
Wayne Coyne
But only in the range he chooses to sing in.
he really, really can sing
watch any recent live clip. really strong voice & intonation
To be fair to Billy Corgan
it's not that he can't sing. It's just that the particular timbre of his voice makes him sound like Mr Burns playing the kazoo.
It's something I'm okay with.Ichor, Faceless_Opinion, ajb123, JaguarPirate, Epimer, and rainmaker this'd this
te more nasal it is
te more i like it
No lolz
The fucker whines. He voice is terrible. One giant vowel outstretched like a cat with it's tail caught in something. The pretentious twat.DaddyorChips this'd this
Strangely enough I actually like the early VU material.
The solo Lou Reed can just piss off though.
- spiritofjazz, funkycow, AfraidOfOwls, moker, matthewslaughter, and pieces_of_reece this'd this
i remember
craig finn from the hold steady said he took singing lessons for 'heaven is whenever' or something. guess he's not really a singer though (see Jarvis Cocker)
Eddie Argos
Fucking hellsojourner, JaguarPirate, urbanfox, and Annoying_person this'd this
He's more won't sing
Than can't sing. Although I'm sure he couldn't if he tried.
One I love but
Definitely cannot sing at all is Darren Hayman.
I like Hayman's voice. I started a thread earlier this week about his
new album. My review of it in two words: It's brilliant.
John Lydon
2 notes, maybe :) Didn't they call him "Johnny Two-Note" back in the day?
Shane McGowan
I can't work it out, is he tune-dead or not? It may be his accent and his drunkenness that makes him sound like he can't sing.
he can definitely sing
as per my test below, the fact that you know what he's singing means he can sing, unlike mark e smith, whose vocals you couldnt transcribe at all
Test for this:
if the singer has sung a song that no one else has made famous, would it be recognisable if it were played back on a piano?
there are obviously flaws in this. shut up
Ian McCullough
Turned from god-like to lung cancer-like
Andy Falkous?
All the better for it though.
Elton John sounds like
Vic Reeves pub singer these days
Conor Oberst
def got a non singers singing voice. Still love it though.
Got stronger in recent years.
Bernard Sumner
again, New Order wouldn't be the same without his voice, but he hardly packs an emotional punch like a certain ex-lead singer of his.
Yes, but New Order have extraordinary songs that makes you forget that Sumner is a quite average singer.
He's fucking dire. Almost inexcusable. Kinda ruins New Order for me, totally.
He's not that bad
On a side note, I always wondered how New Order would sound with a vocalist like Dave Gahan...
They'd sound awful.
Sumner's frail voice is one of the things that makes New Order great - technically his voice is poor but it conveys more soul & emotion than a shouter like Gahan.
Sounds like a teen in the shower
trying to sing along to the radio.
itt: singers who most definitely CAN sing
there's a difference between not being able to sing and having a bad voice, you fucking momoscrashingthrough and bokonon this'd this
Syd Barrett
on his solo records. but obvs has a fragile beauty to it.
- dis-charge this'd this
I listened to Hope of the States - The Lost Riots
for the first time in a few years last week. Still a great album, but man... does that guy struggle to stay in tune.medulla, oldshitnewshit, citizenmeh, and Clair_de_Lune this'd this
You thought he was bad on record?
You should have heard him live!
Still love that band and that album though.
First person that came to mind...
objectively: can sing
compared to the general level of musicianship in his band: really, really poorJaguarPirate, geordiedave1981, and medulla this'd this
YOU'RE ALL CUNTS.sexydave this'd this
It took me about 2 years to warm to the Arab Strap records where he started trying to give it a go
2 long years.
I'm over it now though so that's nice.
Luke Haines?
He doesn't have a great voice but still i like his songs, its a question of making the most with what you got i think
How do you define great singing though?
Technical proficiency, the ability to hit the exact right note at the correct time like a vocal game of Guitar Hero, and go oooh-ooh-oooh-ooh-oooh at the end like Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera?
True, it's totally objective
I would personally judge it on whether they touch you emotionally, which is hard to do when you're off key, but equally hard to do when your maaakingggg eveeeererryyyy woooooooord sooo loong and wooooooo-oooooh-oooooh-ooooohimshowingoffcheckoutmyvocalskillsyeah oooooh yeeeeah-ing
John Lydon, Yoko Ono - just saying
at that MTV awards show still sends shivers down my spine, and not in a good way
jesus christ
Yoko Ono
god yeah
There are those who can't hold a note and those whos voice people don't like. The don't like can go on forever. I personally think Celine Dion is a horrible singer but I know she is technically very good. All that straining and overcooked emotion is awful. But those who can't hold a note too well. John Lydon and Lou Reed come to mind but love em both. Bob Dylan can hold a note but in his own unique way. X-factor has turned people into judges of singing technique and often they don't know what they're talking about.
lack of soul
could not put it better myself Shambolic. Most of what aspires to be good singing (X fac/the voice) is utter souless tosh. Give me Lydon,Dylan,Cohen,Reed & Young anyday.
Florence Welch
Horrendous wailing - especially when she strives to sing powerfully and it makes her strain more and more and stray out of tune - it really makes for uncomfortable listeningAnnoying_person this'd this
Efrim whatshisface from A Silver Mt Zion/Godspeed.
Fucking hell, that can get painful.sexydave and citizenmeh this'd this
Steve Albini
But isn't that the whole point of what he does? I'd still rather listen to his voice for 4 hours than Adeleli Sandie J & The Machine.
David Gedge
(though he's got better)
D C Berman
and especially his missus. However as he says...all my favourite singers couldn't sing.
Malkmus can definitely sing
Spiral Stairs on the other hand ...
David Gedge
can't do what Celine Dion does. But Celine Dion can't do what David Gedge does either. There's no such thing as "bad" singing, there's just singing that you don't like, or which is inappropriate for the material being performed.
If Celine Dion sang looking down
so her chin was touching her chest she'd probably sound quite like David Gedge
Malcolm Mooney
for "You doo right" alone.
The singer from Alt-J
I can't tell whether he is actually singing or putting on a silly voice. The album is good though - I'd like them a lot more with a different singer.Antelope this'd this
Iva Moskovich
can't sing at all. But DOV would be an entirely different band if she could.
100+ posts and no Patrick Stickles?
el oh el
Damon Albarn
every live performance I've ever seen footage of he has really struggled with the vocal range, however limited, in basically every song. Awful singer.
Chris Martin
Julian Casablancas
Danny McNamara
Guy Elbowbloke
Guy Garvey?
You are kidding, right?JaguarPirate this'd this
CTRL+F "Kele"
0 results. Word?
this is flawed blardy blardy blah
but listen to Shannon Selberg! First he couldn't sing at all, then he learned to sing, then he came up with the most ridiculous speak singing shouting melody things
just listen to the first bit of 'singing' there. I mean who else sings like that. Blu-BLEURGH! blu-BLERUGH! blu-BLEUGH! and it WORKS!


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Sure, designers can still use those shadows, but they don't in this new "flat" paradigm. Any type of shadowing or 3D effect like that is considered old-hat and passé now. Visual clues like that are no longer considered useful or stylish, and in fact they I hear them derided in almost every podcast I listen to nowadays. It's ridiculous.
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Recommended: The Essential Cosmic Perspective, 4th Ed., by Bennett, Donahue, Schneider, and Voit
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... One simple line I always remember when it's regarding Touma's Imagine Breaker...
... I wonder what will happen if Touma's catchphrase "I'll kill that illusion of yours" becomes "I reject your reality and substitute my own"?
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On the question about aqua, he attacks Touma because he believe Touma's right hand would become the catalyst that ignites th war between magic and occult side. And once Aqua is determined on his goal, he'll do anything to achieve it. Thoguh, Fianma is the one on his black list now, as he now deem Fianma's action of collect angelic power is the real problem.
To clear up on Right Seats of God. It supposedly is a group that handles dirty work for the Catholic. But they eventually become too powerful and become the actual ones in charge.
And the members of the groups are there for their own individual reasons. Vent is there because she hates science, Aqua is there because he can have some authority that better facailiates his justice, and Fianma is just obessed over his Holy Right.
And on the translation issue. When Fianma is reffering to the power of the right, he is reffering to powers he believe are the power of Michael (as he is the angel on the right side of god).
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Still no link of what so ever. Knowing the names of 3 minor harem of touma is still no good.
I wish someone post a picture of them or link so I can know who are they.
And really I can't see the ending
with to many flag triggered and all. I can only see a harem ending but that's not happening.
I mean everyone is strong specially the main one with the exception of the biting nun. But if that biting nun can use magic well she will become demon lord or god for all I car. Even a saint class . katana user, mature body of some amakusa religion wouldn't stand a chance and the lightning queen too. But that's not happening she is just someone who use CRUNCH attack on touma. The problem of the other known harem is the priestess doesn't really make obvious move. While the tengeki hime is soooooooo obvious its so KAWAI while supporting her. I feel pity for the man. I mean every once in a while or rather lightning always comes down from the heaven. If its me I will pick her imouto. its much more fun for me And lastly most noticeable and lastly added on his harem which is also my favorite. She is good in cooking, knows how to pilot helicopter and ride a motorbike. She has a well endowed body. A model type and most of all she doesn't do physical damage to the person in question. So if its me I will pick the last one but still need to be careful she has 2 personalities while the other is angelic the other is demonic. Be sure to watch out.
And the others really doesn't make move or rather I call them minor harem part. Though they are still included in the harem. They aren't making much progress.
So to sum it all up a harem ending means the death of the main character while even if it will not be a harem ending it will still end up with the death of the main character...
Really its sooooooooo hard to decide a route as for the end.
His is SO FORTUNATE LOL
btw what's PD:MeisBa?
And the goddess will stand defeat in front of a kamijou. Can't resist the manly charm.
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Anieze Sanctis
Ursula Aquinas
Sister Lucia(Is really she a nun?) & Sister Angeline
I support her character too They are looking like a family, aren't they?
btw, Touma=/= Makoto, get it?
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Thanks for the picture.
So those are the other girls in touma's harem. And how did touma trigger the flag?
I could say he saves their lives but in what way did the knight with no armor only a fist brawler saves the day?
It helps a lot but still ITSUWA ALL THE WAY! BABZAI
So like father like son.
The father only loves one girl his wife while the son doesn't like anyone in particular but in same way both the father and son attracts other girls.
I just realize the
makoto si BuLl**** His worst. And you just reminded me of a certain game and anime that I like and the same time I dislike............................sulks in the corner.
Its a good thing their is summer days..... which I like setsu so its fine.
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your not reading vol 8?
And thanks for the spoils. It clears more the story. Still hoping for the 2nd season.
and btw a CERTAIN ID**T TRY TO COPY>><< THE SAFETY PINT DRESS
Spoiler for Its not even FUNNY:
Edit::: Which remind me of how lucky that Ba*t(rD IS!
Spoiler for YoU SuPeR LuCkY GuY:
Can someone reminded me how he become unlucky. Claiming his the epitome of unluckiness and lucky doesn't exist on his side?
If his misfortune then how can you call the girlfriendless people around the world. COME ON PEOPLE!
I haven't even in a girls room or even a house for my whole life! GeeZ!
Edit: again......
can you post a more detailed summary of it? The one you have just read.
PLEASE...... Thanks
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Coronary artery disease (CAD) continues to be neglected in women, despite it killing at least as many women as men, a state-of-the-art review found.
In addition, women are less likely to receive preventive therapies, such as lipid-lowering therapies and lifestyle advice compared with men at a similar risk level, according to Martha Gulati, MD, and Kavita Sharma, MD, from The Ohio State University in Columbus.
"CAD is a leading cause of death of women and men worldwide. Yet CAD's impact on women traditionally has been underappreciated due to higher rates at younger ages in men," they wrote.
Women are disproportionately affected by microvascular coronary disease and they have unique risk factors for CAD, including those related to pregnancy and autoimmune disease, they wrote in a review in this month's edition of Global Heart, the journal of the World Heart Federation.
In their review, the authors summarized "the current state of knowledge about women and CAD," including risk assessment, unique sex-specific CAD characteristics, and management strategies in 2013.
CT scans and other imaging techniques show that women have narrower coronary arteries than do men, and are more likely to suffer CAD due to microvascular disease. So while appearing not to have major coronary artery obstructions, women suffer symptoms due to blockages of these smaller vessels.
Women without obstructive CAD suffer repeated hospitalizations and testing due to symptoms of ischemia.
In contrast, obstructive CAD is more commonly found in men who are symptomatic and can be treated with aggressive medical therapy or stenting. This type of CAD is less frequently seen in women.
Pooled estimates from multiple countries revealed that women, both pre- and postmenopausal, are also 20% more likely to suffer angina than men (pooled sex ratio of angina prevalence 1.20, 95% CI 1.14-1.28, P<0.0001).
"Trial data indicate that CAD should be managed differently in women," they said.
Specifically, more women than men die of CAD, and more women have died of CAD than of cancer, including breast cancer, chronic lower respiratory disease, Alzheimer's's disease, and accidents combined.
Overall, rates of CAD have declined by 30% in the last decade, but rates have actually increased in women younger than 55, researchers said.
Despite these known facts, women are still less likely to receive preventive recommendations, such as lipid-lowering therapy, aspirin, and lifestyle advice, than are men at a similar risk level, Gulati and Sharma pointed out.
In terms of coronary artery bypass grafting (CABG), female sex is an independent risk factor for morbidity and mortality, the authors also noted.
"Women have a higher risk of morbidity and mortality and they experience less relief from angina than do men after CABG, despite comprising less than 30% of the CABG population," they explained, adding that this sex discrepancy seems to be reduced when an off-pump CABG is performed.
Traditional risk factors such as age, family history of CAD, hypertension, diabetes, dyslipidemia, smoking, and physical inactivity are important predictors of risk in women.
Yet, women tend to a dramatic increase in CAD after the age of 60, in contrast to men who tend to have a more linear increase in CAD as they age.
This difference in the development of CAD creates a situation where the disease isn't identified until much later in the course of the disease.
There also are risk factors that appear to affect men and women differently.
Obesity, for example, increases the risk of CAD by 64% in women but by only 46% in men.
Younger women (less than 50 years) who experience a CAD-related myocardial infarction (MI) are twice as likely to die as men in similar circumstances, researchers noted.
And as women age, they continue to have notably different risk factors than men.
Women over the age of 65 are more likely to die within the first year after an MI compared with men (42% versus 24%).
Women are also more likely than men to suffer autoimmune diseases, raising their risk of CAD, as well as polycystic ovary syndrome, pre-eclampsia, and gestational diabetes, which can also ultimately increase risk of CAD in women.
Another risk factor is breast cancer treatment, which has improved survival for this disease in its early stages, but "the gains are being attenuated by increasing CAD risk. Whether the increased CAD risk is due to the breast cancer therapies or to the disease itself -- which is associated with some of the same risk factors for CAD -- remains unknown," Gulati and Sharma wrote.
Women unable to carry out basic physical fitness tests are three times more likely to develop CAD than fitter women. "Increasing physical activity is a key component of the World Heart Federation's 'Make a Healthy Heart Your Goal' campaign, running in partnership with this month's Women's European Football Championships, researchers pointed out.
Such awareness is greatly needed, f0r women and healthcare providers alike, the researchers said. In 1997, only 30% of American women surveyed were aware that the leading cause of death in women is CAD; this increased to 54% in 2009.
But in a survey performed in 2004, fewer than one in five physicians recognized that more women than men die each year from CAD. Furthermore, cardiac rehabilitation after heart attacks is underused, particularly in women, as demonstrated in numerous national studies. Women are 55% less likely to participate in cardiac rehabilitation than men are.
"Increasing data demonstrate that some treatment strategies have sex-specific effectiveness," the investigators concluded. "Further research regarding the pathophysiology of CAD in women, diagnosis, and treatment strategies specific to women is required. CAD is not a 'man's only' disease, and we eagerly await future studies that examine its unique presence in women."
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Lady Tigers' Season Ends vs. SIU-Edwardsville
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The Tennessee State Lady Tigers saw their season come to an end Wednesday afternoon dropping a first round matchup in the OVC Tournament to SIU-Edwardsville 73-61 at the Municipal Auditorium.
"I thought we had too many turnovers and didn't rebound very well," said TSU head coach Larry Joe Inman. "I thought that was the difference in the game really. We played hard but it just didn't happen for us today."
"I thought we had too many turnovers and didn't rebound very well," said TSU head coach Larry Joe Inman. "I thought that was the difference in the game really. We played hard but it just didn't happen for us today."
The Lady Tigers (13-15, 9-7 OVC) used some hot shooting from three to lead for much of the first half. Jasmin Shuler got TSU on the board in the opening minutes with a three, followed by another triple by Rachel Allen on the next TSU possession. Shuler led TSU with 17 points in her final career game.
A Brianna Lawrence three with 12:53 left in the first half gave the Big Blue a 11-7 edge, while another Shuler three extended the TSU lead to 16-11 with 8:59 in the half. From that point, TSU went cold from the floor, missing eight of their next 10 shots. SIUE (16-13, 9-7 OVC) used that opportunity to turn a six point deficit into a six point lead.
"I thought the biggest thing was they went in and got some offensive boards that really hurt us," said Inman about the SIUE run at the end of the half. "Then we fouled them when they did rebound it and then we had two or three turnovers right there in a row that really broke out back. Then I really thought the game was over with. We tried to make runs but we really couldn't mount a run of our own. We hung in there and cut it to six and it stayed there forever and we just couldn't get over the hump."
Allen's second three of the half in the final seconds pulled TSU to within four at 30-26 at half.
An old fashioned three point play by Kesi Hess closed the SIUE lead down to one, 30-29, with 18:16 remaining, but it was as close as the Lady Tigers would get being outscored 43-32 the rest of the way.
Hess, an All-OVC second team selection, ended her career with 14 points. Chelsea Hudson joined Hess and Shuler as the only Lady Tigers in double digits with 11 points and five rebounds off the bench.
SIUE held the advantage down low, holding a 42-14 advantage in points in the paint. All-OVC first team selection Raven Berry led the Cougars with a game-high 19 points and nine rebounds.
In the first and only meeting of the season on Feb. 25 at SIUE, the Cougars outrebounded TSU 54-36. The Lady Tigers did much better on the glass during the second meeting only getting outrebounded by a 40-38 margin.
Tennessee State dropped to 6-14 all-time in the OVC Tournament, a mark that includes four consecutive losses. The Tigers also fell to 4-3 all-time in Municipal Auditorium in the OVC Tournament.
TSU improved by four wins compared to last season, both in the OVC and overall.
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WILMINGTON, Del., Feb. 11 (UPI) -- A gunman who served time in federal prison for kidnapping his young daughters shot and killed his ex-wife and another woman Monday at a Delaware courthouse.
Two police officers also were wounded in the shooting at the New Castle County Courthouse in Wilmington, where the gunman also was killed.
David T. Matusiewicz, a former optometrist who had recently been released from federal prison after serving sentences for bank fraud and kidnapping his three daughters, was identified as the shooter, The (Wilmington) News Journal reported.
The (Wilmington) News Journal said Matusiewicz and ex-wife Christine Belford were involved in a bitter custody fight. The couple had been divorced since 2006 and his parental rights had been terminated. He had been seeking joint custody.
Matusiewicz kidnapped his young daughters in August 2007 when they were just 4, 6 and 7, taking them on an 18-month odyssey through Central and South America. They were found in 2009, along with Matusiewicz's mother, in a trailer in Nicaragua.
The identity of the second dead woman was not immediately released.
The two injured officers were described as a 50-year-old man who has been on the Capitol Police force for less than a year and a 42-year-old seven-year veteran.
It wasn't clear whether the gunman was killed by Capitol Police officers or killed himself, Delaware State Police Sgt. Paul Shavack said.
The injured officers were taken to a nearby hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, officials said.
Ralph Hilton told The News Journal he got a call from his sister, Victoria Warren, who was at the courthouse for jury duty.
Hilton said his sister told him, "They were shooting, they were shooting."
The shooting began about 8 a.m. when the gunman was stopped by Capitol Police at a security checkpoint inside the front door.
Police blocked off surrounding streets and nearby schools went on lockdown, WCAU-TV, Philadelphia, reported. While inside, visitors and courthouse employees ran for cover.
"I saw the gentleman and a bunch of ladies and people running out of the court building and I just hear all the bam, bam, bam, so I ran too," Irvin Neal, who was on his way into the courthouse, told WCAU.
Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, said in a statement, "Our thoughts and prayers right now are with the victims of this senseless violence and the Capitol police officers who put their lives on the line to protect the courts and public every day."
Ferris Wharton, a public defender and former chief deputy attorney general, said an employee in his office reported seeing a woman dead in the lobby, The News Journal said.
Witnesses told The News Journal the shooting began around 8 a.m. when the gunman was stopped at a security checkpoint inside the front door.
"I don't know what to say," Wharton, who worked in the Wilmington courthouses for three decades, told the newspaper. "I've never heard of anything like this happening in Delaware. It's a wild situation."
Sandra Autman, a deputy county clerk, said she and several other "hysterical staff" were in their mezzanine office, one floor below the lobby. She said employees heard at least five shots.


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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – The Coker Cobras suffered a 64-54 loss to the Royals of Queens University of Charlotte on Tuesday (Nov. 26) night in South Atlantic Conference men's basketball action.
Errick Bethel led the Cobra offense as he poured in a career high 18 points off the bench. Fifteen of Bethel's 18 points came from beyond the arc. Also scoring in double figures was Julian Nelson with 12 points. Bryce Arnott dished out a game high eight assists, while Sharod Williams and Teon Beckett pulled down seven rebounds each.
The start of the game was a bit rough for the Cobras, as they fell behind 21-0. A three-pointer by Arnott put the Cobras on the board with just under 10 minutes left in the half, and began a 19-7 Coker run that sent them into the locker room down 28-19.
Coker began the second half with an 11-2 run, tying the game at 30 with 15:45 left. The Cobras kept the score close, but they were unable to gain a lead as Queens took home the 64-54 win.
The Cobras will return home for their next game on Tuesday (Dec. 3) against Benedict College. Tip-off is scheduled for 7 p.m.


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"This is the problem: You want to open a file using something other than the default application. You right-click its icon in the Finder, choose Open With, and a submenu pops up with an absurd number of duplicate entries." This is so annoying. Dr. Dang made a little addition to .bashrc so you can fix it with a single command. Now it's up to Apple to actually fix the problem (via Daring Fireball).


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Ludlow Road synagogue plan denied by P&Z
The Planning and Zoning Commission has again refused to give its blessings to a plan for a new synagogue on Ludlow Road.
After a lengthy review of the issues in the latest application by Beit Chaverim Synagogue, the P&Z voted 4-3 to deny the proposal.
The plan called for construction of an approximately 4,000-square-foot, one-story building at 24 Ludlow Road. The existing structures -- a vacant three-story building and a cottage with one tenant -- on the land would be demolished. The P&Z in 2008 had rejected a plan to convert the larger building into a house of worship.
While the congregation has the option of appealing the decision in court, it also still could move forward with a different proposal to build a synagogue on the site that the P&Z approved in 2009.
"None of us has taken this lightly at all," said Chairwoman Catherine Walsh, who voted to deny the request, along with Alfred Gratix, Chip Stephens and Tim Wetmore. "This has been a very difficult situation."
Ron Corwin, Nora Jinishian and Howard Lathrop voted in favor.
The denial included dozens of points of non-compliance in the application, including the increased floor area and parking, as well as a greater intensity of use. Several aspects of the plan were also cited as having changed since the 2009 approval.
Larry Weisman, the lawyer for Beit Chaverim, had previously argued that the latest application was, in essence, the same as the earlier one that had been approved.
"I think I've seen enough (and ) I think it's substantially different," Walsh said.
"I do believe that the commission spent long hours, not only in meetings but putting things together," Stephens said. "I think we've looked at this rather strongly and I think we've come to our opinions after doing much diligence and much due work."
"The good thing for the congregation is that they still have a site plan and they can still build up until 2020," Walsh said, referring to the earlier decision.
While Weisman or members of the congregation did not attend the meeting, several Ludlow Road neighbors were on hand, along with their lawyer, Steve Nevas.
"We have no idea what they're going to do," Nevas said of Beit Chaverim's future plans. "But the real story is this neighborhood -- 22 families -- came together to help the Planning and Zoning Commission understand the impact that this proposal would have on a quiet and historic neighborhood."
"The question now is whether the congregation will appeal the decision to the Superior Court, which they have a right to do." Nevas said, however, given what he called "a formidable list" of reasons for the commission's denial, such an effort "might be futile."


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The Blair Theatre was scheduled to open on December 23, 1937, according to the December 25 issue of Boxoffice Magazine that year. It was designed for the Silverman brothers by Pittsburgh architect Victor A. Rigaumont.
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Does anyone remember the name of a pipe organ company located in Hollidaysburg Pa. I'm going back many years.
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beachy: Some directories list a Cannarsa Organs, Inc. as having been located in Hollidaysburg. The company now appears to be located in Duncansville.
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Peer Assistance and Review (PAR), one of CEA's most successful programs, is now expanding. The program will now serve second-year teachers in the Briggs and Linden-McKinley feeder patterns. PAR II will be facilitated by a PAR Consulting Teacher and the building principal.
Support for PAR II is being provided by CEA's $1.25 million grant from the NEA Foundation. One of CEAs goals is to strengthen teacher preparation and build a stronger web of collaborative support.
PAR will provide two full years of mentoring, assistance and review for these teachers. The extended PAR program will focus on:
* Professional self-reflection assessment
* Identifying four goals for the year
* Building and maintaining a professional portfolio to track progress and goal completion
PAR is a national model. For more than 20 years, the district and the Association have worked together to sponsor and mentor new teachers and those who find later that they need assistance. PAR ensures that there is a high quality teacher in every classroom.


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Message to the front office: Integrate the new with the old
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There are still businesses and managements out there that don't see the value of social media in their strategic plans. And no matter what statistic, value proposition to the consumer, or competitive edge you site, your CEO will not even open the door a sliver to see what's on the other side.
It's a frustrating prospect to see your competitors keeping up with technology and relevant communications avenues while your business or management continues to use the tactics they have always done before, and fall behind.
The fact is social media is here, and is here to stay. It is not a passing fad. Read more of this post


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Chris Kunitz scores twice to help Penguins rally for 5-4 win over FlyersNHL.com @NHLdotcom
PHILADELPHIA - Chris Kunitz scored his second goal just 18 seconds into the third period to cap a four-goal rally and lift the Pittsburgh Penguins to a 5-4 victory over the Philadelphia Flyers on Thursday night.
Pascal Dupuis, James Neal and Tyler Kennedy also scored goals for the Atlantic Division-leading Penguins, who won their third straight game.
Jakub Voracek had two power-play goals, Zac Rinaldo and Kimmo Timonen also scored for the Flyers, who blew a 4-1 lead after the first period.
Both starting goalies ? Philadelphia's Ilya Bryzgalov and Pittsburgh's Marc-Andre Fleury ? were pulled after allowing four goals.
Scott Hartnell had his tying goal disallowed near the midpoint of the third period because his stick was above the crossbar when he deflected Timonen's shot into the net.
The Flyers fell to 11-13-1 and remain on the outside of the playoff race with 23 games remaining.
The visitor has won all three games this season in this intrastate rivalry between two teams that struggle to play much defence against each other.
Voracek had a hat trick in a wild 6-5 win at Pittsburgh on Feb. 20. The Flyers and Penguins combined for 45 goals through the first four games of last year's first-round playoff series that Philadelphia won in six games.
A turnover by Timonen near Pittsburgh's blue line led to a three-on-one break for the Penguins. Sidney Crosby fed Kunitz, who ripped one past a diving Brian Boucher to give the Penguins their first lead in the opening minute of the third period.
An unusual number of Penguins fans at the Wells Fargo Center roared in approval while the orange-clad Flyers fans fell silent.
Dupuis got Pittsburgh's comeback started, scoring off a crisp behind-the-net pass from Crosby to cut it to 4-2.
Just 2:43 later, Neal scored his team-high 15th goal. Neal tried to centre a pass from the side of the net to Evgeni Malkin in front, but the puck hit Bryzgalov's blocker and went under him.
Then Kennedy ripped a slap shot just inside the left post to tie it at 4 with 4:13 left in the second. That ended Bryzgalov's night. Boucher entered to the usual "Boosh" chants.
The Flyers scored three times in the last five minutes of the first period to take a 4-1 lead.
First, Rinaldo put the Flyers up 2-1 on his third goal of the season. Fleury kicked aside Nicklas Grossmann's slap shot, but the rebound went to Rinaldo in front and he snapped a wrister into the net.
Fleury then gave Philadelphia a gift goal when Timonen's floater from outside the left circle bounced off his chest and went in.
Seconds into a power play, Voracek got his 12th goal on a wrister from the point that hit defenceman Paul Martin's skate and trickled between Fleury's legs with only 8 seconds left in the period.
Fleury angrily flicked the puck out of the net and was replaced by Tomas Vokoun at the start of the second.
Voracek scored his team-high 11th goal to give the Flyers a 1-0 lead near the midpoint of the first period. Claude Giroux set it up with a crossing pass from the left circle to the right, where Voracek slipped a soft one-timer between Fleury's legs.
As the Flyers celebrated, Hartnell got into with Neal, who was coming out of the penalty box. The Penguins ended up with a power play and Kunitz scored his 13th goal less than a minute later to tie it.
NOTES: Matt Read was back in Philadelphia's lineup a month ahead of schedule after injuring his ribs in the first meeting against the Penguins. ... Voracek has nine goals in the last 10 games. ... Kunitz has a point in seven straight games, a career-high streak. ... The road team is 18-5-1 going back to 2009. ... The Penguins are 10-3-1 in their last 14 games at the Wells Fargo Center, but they're 32-90-10 overall in Philadelphia. ... The Flyers' sellout streak is up to 93 games.


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For many Jews who celebrate Passover, the traditional shmurah matzah has become a meaningful symbol of the holiday. So what exactly is shmurah matzah? Shmura means "watched"; this means that the matzah has been scrupulously watched from the harvest of the wheat until the final baking. This also means that the entire process has been strictly supervised by a rabbi and that the matzah has been made in small batches by hand. Curious about this process, CookKosher explored the Lakewood, NJ matzah bakery. Join us for a virtual tour!
The entire process is done in an assembly line. In each 18 minute round, a few batches of matzos are made. At the end of the 18 minute round, the timer is stopped, and the entire bakery is carefully cleaned to ensure that there is no leftover dough.
All the utensils in the matzah bakery are made of stainless steel; this way it is easy to spot and clean up the leftover residue.
The special water for matzah baking- called mayim shelunu- is kept in a tank. This water comes from an over ground well.
The water and flour are kept in two separate rooms- to ensure that they never touch each other before being mixed. The water and flour are each carefully weighed.
The water and flour are carefully mixed together in stainless steel bowls.
The dough is kneaded with a medal rod that goes up and down.
The dough is divided into equal parts to ensure that the matzos are of equal size.
The matzos are then passed down the assembly line. Each baker rolls it a few times with a stainless steel rolling pin, and then flips it to the next baker. (Some matzah bakeries use wooden rolling pins which are sanded down in between each use.) By the time the matzos reach the end of the assembly line they are super thin.
At the end of the assembly line, the next baker uses a special utensil which punches holes into the matzos. The purposes of these holes are to ensure that the dough is super thin and that no dough is left raw.
The matzah is then placed on a rod with paper.
The matzah is then placed on a rod with paper. (The paper is changed in between each batch of matzah.)
The rod is carried over to the oven where another baker inserts the raw matzos into the steaming hot oven.
It takes only 32 seconds (!) for a matzos to bake.
The matzos are then taken out of the oven to cool.
Afterward, the matzos are inspected for creases and folds. If they do contain creases or folds, they are removed and not certified as kosher for Passover.
This is because raw dough in the matzah is suspected.
At this point the matzos are complete!
They are now ready to be packaged into neat boxes and shipped to Jews around the world- to be enjoyed all through the eight days of Passover.


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Ruby's Southern Soul Food is a diner in East Holland between Vauxite St and Denver Ave. It is based on M&G's Diner in Harlem, New York, a recently closed restaurant that also served soul food.
- The diner that Ruby's Soul Food is based on has closed it's doors. The building itself has been repainted to a plain brick color and turned into a regular apartment building.
- The diner is near the Drug Dealer's Apartment from the mission Lure.


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Donald P. Crew, 711 Center, Hannibal (born 1983) was sentenced to three years with the Missouri Department of Corrections in Marion County Circuit Court at Hannibal on April 1. Judge Rachel Bringer Shepherd granted a suspended execution of sentence, and placed Crew on five year's supervised probation. He entered a guilty plea to possession of a controlled substance, a Class C felony.
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Honda announced Friday it's recalling more than 748,843 Pilot and Odyssey vehicles to correct a problem with the driver's-side airbag.
The automaker says some of the vehicles may be missing a rivet that holds the airbag's plastic cover in place when it deploys. This could lead to the airbag inflating improperly and could cause the plastic cover to come loose and strike the driver or passengers.
The recall affects 276,153 Odyssey minivans made from 2011 to 2013 and 472,690 Pilot SUVs made from 2009 to 2013.
Owners affected will be notified by mail in February, according to Honda spokesman Chris Martin. The Odyssey and Pilots will be inspected by the dealer, and any vehicles found to be missing the rivets will have the entire airbag module replaced, Martin said.
The replacement process could take at least two days, as Honda dealers would have to order each new airbag individually.
Martin said there have been no incidents or injuries related to this recall. The problem came to Honda's attention when an employee on the factory floor noticed the missing rivet, Martin said. The automaker then initiated a voluntary inspection.


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After taking a much-needed break from campaigning to refresh his supply of sweater vests, Rick Santorum is back — and he's still saying all manner of loony things. Like here, where he says that President Obama is forcing Catholics to go to confession:
SANTORUM: We have a president who, for the first time in American history, is directly assaulting the First Amendment and freedom of religion. He is going to tell you what to do in the practice of your faith. He is forcing business people right now to do things that are against their conscience, that they will have to — if you're a Catholic — you'll have to go to confession … to confess that you are complying with a government program that is a sin in the Catholic Church.
Okay, a couple things. First, the idea that this is the "first time in American history" that a president is undermining the First Amendment is simply moronic. How about Presidents Reagan and Bush, who wanted to overturn a Supreme Court ruling protecting the right to burn a flag? Or the many presidents who have supported forcing children to pray in school? Or for that matter, John Adams and the Alien and Sedition Acts?Second, I would love to hear that confession.
"Bless me father, for I have sinned. I own a business and the insurance companies are now offering free contraception services to my employees without it being any part of my group policy. I have sinned."
Actually, the Obama plan seems like a good way to help Catholic business owners avoid such sin because it requires the insurance companies to provide a contraception rider that is not part of the company's group insurance policy.


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In this column a few weeks ago I likened the economy and markets to being in the eye of a hurricane.
There had been some destruction in global stock markets created by the debt crisis in Europe, but the storm quieted down after the surprise EU/IMF announcement of a $1 trillion debt rescue plan. There was hope the danger had passed. But I suggested that, as in the eye of a hurricane, the other side of the storm was yet to arrive, and that sometimes it arrives with more fury than the first side.
It does seem we are now experiencing the back side of the financial storm and that it may indeed result in more serious damage.
The rescue package brought hope that the European debt crisis could be confined to Greece, that the European economic recovery would continue, that European banks would avoid serious fallout from the debt crisis.
The return of a positive outlook was in no small way related to confidence that the economic recovery in the U.S. would continue and become more robust, and that China's strong economy would also continue to support the global recovery.
The Chinese stock market did not demonstrate the same confidence. It topped out last July and has been in a bear market since, having declined 27%. And in recent weeks it became clear what the Chinese stock market saw coming. The Chinese government has begun taking dramatic steps to take some air out of the Chinese real estate bubble, and stock markets are well aware of what happens to economies when real estate bubbles burst.
Meanwhile, the Greek debt crisis was contagious and spread to Portugal and Spain, with concerns rising about Ireland and Italy.
However, there was still confidence that the U.S. economy would continue to improve, even though some important parts of last year's stimulus efforts, particularly for the housing industry, had expired at the end of April.
But then the latest economic reports began coming in.
In recent days it was reported that Pending Home Sales rose 6% in April, but that it was likely only due to a rush by home-buyers to get purchase contracts signed before the April 31 expiration of the home-buyer rebate program.
And sure enough, a few days later the Mortgage Bankers Association reported that while overall mortgage applications had increased 0.9% in the last week of May, the increase had been due to existing home-owners applying to refinance their mortgages to take advantage of low mortgage rates. Mortgage rates from those looking to buy a home, so-called 'purchase applications', had declined for the fourth straight week since the home-buyer bonus plan expired at the end of April, and are 40% below their level at the end of April. That cannot bode well for the next home sales reports.
Meanwhile, MasterCard's SpendingPulse reported that retail sales in May were 3.7% below May of last year, the second month of declines after sales improved in the first quarter.
Consumers and the stock market really needed a strong employment report to offset those negative reports, if confidence that the economy continues to improve was to be kept alive.
Unfortunately, the jobs report Friday morning was dismal. The Labor Department reported that only 431,000 new jobs were created in May versus the consensus forecast of 515,000. And most of the new jobs, 411,000, were temporary census-taker jobs. Minus those, there were only 20,000 new jobs created. An awful report.
The unemployment rate did decline to 9.7% from the previous 9.9%. But even that was questionable as a positive, since it was primarily due to 322,000 unemployed dropping out of the unemployment picture because they gave up looking for a job.
Adding to the concerns, ill-winds continued to blow in from Europe with the statement of an official in Hungary that his country now faces a debt crisis similar to that of Greece.
The back side of hurricanes do pass, and the continuation of the financial hurricane will also pass. But the stock market must now worry about the damage that it leaves behind, not so much whether it has raised the odds of the economy sliding back into a double-dip recession, but the damage it has done to forecasts of a V-shaped recovery and the robust improvements in corporate earnings that have been factored into stock prices.