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Introduction to the Home Theater Build Project
We all have a spare room. Well, many of us do. And those of us bitten by the A/V bug often dream about what we would do with that room. I have such a room, and six years ago embarked on a wild odyssey to build a dedicated A/V room from scratch. How could someone with limited construction skills, moderate budget, and even more limited tool selection, go about making a clean, professional looking dedicated home theater?
Over the next few weeks I'm going to walk readers through the process that I went through to construct my dedicated home theater. We'll start with a somewhat historical perspective, looking back at the room evaluations, initial construction concerns, and finally the equipment that went into the room to start. I'll then talk about upgrade considerations and about how the various parts of the system have changed since this original configuration. We'll close the piece by talking about the various upgrades that anyone with a basic system can start to address once the equipment begins to stabilize.
Our goal with this article is to try and take some of the mystery and intimidation out of constructing a dedicated A/V room from a DIY perspective. We'd also like to give some insight into the thought process behind various upgrades and how someone goes about constructing a true high-end system, part by part, within the constraints of space, budget and time.
Going Front Projection (can this be done?)
Before I started this project, back in 2003, I already had a "home theater†by the classical definition. I had a 51†CRT rear-projection TV and 5.1 surround sound. I had a decent receiver, an excellent DVD player, and a high-definition signal. My set was calibrated and tweaked by ISF technician Greg Loewen for the best picture possible. I sat 9 feet away and with the lights off, it was a pretty darn good experience.
Like many who are just starting to get into this hobby, I eventually stumbled across the AVS Forum. A mountain of information and links, it was there that I first found myself in thinking about the idea of front projection.
A front projection setup had always been in the back of my mind. No matter how much we try, the experience provided by a conventional TV will never be a truly cinematic – a cinematic experience can only really come with a projection setup and a large screen. I had a study that contained a desk, bookshelf and couch. Besides the dog, and the occasional house guest, nobody used that room ever.
So there I was, with a perfectly respectable system, clicking away in the AVS "Front-Projector†forum and on various commercial websites. Was this really doable? People were chatting about projectors from names I recognized like Panasonic, Sanyo and Infocus. Wait? Not just Runco, Sharp and Maratnz? Projectors with real world pricing that produced competitively good images? But would these more reasonably priced projectors work for me? There was only one way to find out. I placed a posting in the forum in the fall of 2003 with a shameless solicitation for people in my area: would anyone with one of these lower cost projectors be willing to have me come over and look at their setup? I was interested in two projectors that had been generating a ton of buzz: the Infocus X1 and the Panasonic 300U. To my great surprise I had several generous forum members invite me into their homes to see their front projection setups. I quickly discovered one thing: the technology wasn't there.
I learned two terms very quickly in that initial outing: screen-door effect and rainbows – terms discussed at great length in the projector reviews here at Secrets and the projectors that I saw that were in my approximate budget suffered from one or both of these negatives. I left this experience quite happy with my current setup, confident that performance like that which I was hoping to achieve, was unattainable at a reasonable price.
In the winter of 2003, that easiness began to abate with the release of two new projectors: the Panasonic 500 and the Sanyo Z2. For the first time, true high definition (1280×720) was being offered at the right price point. Another projector, the Infocus 4805 also popped up around this time promising DLP performance in a 480p configuration. Another posting, and several trips around and I realized I was ready to make a purchase. The two LCD projectors produced great pictures, little noticeable screen door effect and a surprisingly pleasing image. I decided it was time…what other considerations were there?
Room Considerations and Setup
The first thing I had to ask was: is the room actually appropriate for front projection?
Front projection is very different from conventional video displays for one primary reason: light. Light is the enemy of any projection setup. Why? Well, in order to produce an image, any screen must reflect the light being shined on it…otherwise we'd see nothing from our display. However, the screen is unbiased. It reflects any light that is present in the room. When there is ambient light in the room, it most likely affects parts of the image that are supposed to have no projected light – or blacks. So when we have extraneous light in the room, we lose the black level of our picture and it looks washed out. Therefore any front projection setup must have some sort of control of light. Most projectors are capable of dealing with some light and material that doesn't have a lot of blacks in it can be viewed adequately in these situations (like a sporting event). There are also advanced screen technologies that compensate for ambient light – but in the end one moniker is important: too much light is bad for front projectors.
Because my room was not in a basement, I did have light to deal with. Advanced screen technologies like those from Stewart were prohibitively expensive; my screen would cost more than the projector. Luckily the room had very thick blinds, and I also made a decision that this room was going to be used mostly at night. Light issues – check.
The Setup
Next thing to look at was the room itself. I had a few constraints regarding the room. This was not first time construction: I wasn't going to have open access behind dry wall to run wires. This could not involve major alterations to the structure of the room: at some point we will be moving on from this house and major, irreversible (without significant cost and construction) changes were not wanted. Lastly and most importantly, this was not going to take place with an unlimited budget: I had to figure out a way to maximize both the equipment I had as well as the budget available. At the same time, I wanted the installation to look clean, presentable and professional.
The room itself was on my first floor, off of the hallway between my living room and kitchen, measuring 12 x 12 feet. As mentioned above, there was a window in the room, but I chose to deal with stray light by adding thick curtains to the heavy wooden blinds that were already in place. There was also a closet that would be perfect for storing all of the gear out of sight. The closet had extensive shelving that would be great for the equipment.
I also wanted to make sure my time without a working "theater†was minimal. Because I would be relocating equipment from my living room to the dedicated room, I had to make sure that everything in the new location was as prepped as possible so I could so minimize my time without a 5.1 setup.
The first step in prepping the room was to run speaker wire – this way I could keep the speakers in my living room and drop them in as soon as I was ready. As I have a crawlspace this task wasn't a terribly difficult project. I chose to buy bulk from a company called ProFlex. This company, similar to more familiar names like Belkin and Canare, manufactures broadcast quality cabling that was more than adequate for my use.
I purchased 14/4 cabling so that I wouldn't be limited in any distances and could potentially bi-amp my speakers in the future. I had to drop three cables down the front wall for front, left and right speakers. There was no insulation on this wall so it was pretty easy. I purchased a long, flexible drill bit and purchased wall plates intended for coax cable outlets that just fit my speaker wire for a nice, clean look.
All of the equipment was going to be located in a closet in the room to preserve the clean look I was going for. I ran the three speaker cables for the front sound stage through the crawl space and up into the closet. Because my main water intake is in that closet, I had easy reference for where to drill holes for the speaker wire.
The rear surround speaker wire and sub wires were out of the closet and hidden pretty easily in the room by the furniture. I modified various wall plates from Home Depot as necessary to maintain a clean look.
My next step was cabling for the video. Cabling was going to be run from the closet to the back wall where the projector was going to be mounted, so I needed interconnects that were longer than I had been using in the past (around 15 feet total). I ran a DVI and component cable from the closet up to the ceiling that were both purchased from an Internet direct company that manufacturing cables using bulk cable from Canare and Belkin. I used the same hole that the sub cable and speaker wire were running through for the video.
The standard wall conduits available from Home Depot were unfortunately too small for the DVI, component and power cables. A quick trip to Graybar yielded extra wide surface raceway from a company called Panduit (www.panduit.com) that could accommodate all of the video cabling. I ran a second smaller conduit so that power and video could be run independently. Both of these were painted to match the wall.
Moving Equipment – Making Use of What You Have
The projector and screen were going to be significant purchases so I wanted to make sure I utilized as much as I could from my existing setup. I made the decision to move all of the equipment over to the theater except for my rear-projection CRT TV. When watching TV on a day to day basis, I'd make due with the speakers in the CRT and preserve the full surround experience for movies in the theater.
The existing setup had decent enough components to make the audio and video very respectable. I had a good receiver (Denon 3802) and a very good progressive scan DVD player (Denon 1600). My existing speakers would provide the surround sound (PSB Stratus C6i center, Stratus Silver i towers and Image 1B surrounds). The PSB system was an impulse purchases but one that had worked out very well. I was even able to reuse the surround sound speaker mounts for the 1B's in the theater.
To fill out the PSB system, I had a PSB Subsonic 7 subwoofer. All of the interconnects from the existing system (coax and optical digital, component, and RCA's) could easily be reused – I didn't need to procure anything other than a longer subwoofer cable and the video cables to run to the projector. Even though I was not going to be using my best components on a daily basis, being able to use all of this equipment significantly reduced the cost and time in getting up and running in the theater and allowed me to focus on the next big step: the projector and screen.
Which Projector to Choose? A Few Key Attributes
As stated above, I made the decision to jump into the projector game mainly because of the release of two specific projectors from Sanyo and Panasonic. These two units represented the first time that true HD (albeit 720p) was available at real world prices. The vast majority of constraints that were placed on projectors of a reasonable price point then are no longer as much of a concern now as technology has advanced, but I still think one point remains relevant.
Of the two low cost options that were available at the end of 2002, one proved to be far more attractive: the Sanyo Z2. While offering many similar features as its closest competitor, the Sanyo offered one key attribute that I still believe is one of the most important someone can look for in a projector – especially someone attempting their first installalation: lens shift. Lens shift – not to be confused with key stone correction – allows the installer to physically shift the placement of an image. The most flexible projectors allow you to do this in both the vertical and horizontal direction, while some allow only vertical lens shift. The level of error that these allow for is indispensable. I never recommend projectors that don't have this feature. Luckily it is a quite common attribute these days in many low to mid priced projectors.
Now that I had settled on a projector, the next thing was to get it onto the wall. Because of my room constraints I was limited to mounting on the back wall (I didn't want to ruin the popcorn ceilings in the room by mounting a ceiling plate). Procuring a mount is much easier now than it was in 2003. As the prevalence of projectors has increased, we now see low cost mounts popping up everywhere from eBay to Monoprice (http://www.monoprice.com). My only recommendations are to make sure that your mount is universal (so that it can accommodate the various upgrades that will undoubtedly happen), and that it takes some sort of standardized tubing so that you can custom make the mount with standard metal tubing from Home Depot. My current mount is from Premier Mounts (http://www.premiermounts.com/). Because the mount is compatible with standard 1.5†NPT piping, I was able to purchase parts at Home Depot that allowed me to modify it for rear wall mounting.
If you aren't limited in placement, there are a few things to consider as placement of the projector will impact its performance. Look at your projectors manual. In there you'll see a diagram that will illustrate how big of a screen size can be projected from different distances. You'll have to make sure that your desired screen size is attainable from the distance that you choose. Any projector is capable of projecting a given size from a range of positions: that which represents its maximum zoom and its minimum zoom. Which to choose if you have an option? There are several considerations that play into this. As I've stated before, the AVS Forum provides a wealth of information so I would like to reference an extremely detailed and well-written post by AVS Forum Member Bob Sorel. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753497
We'll get back to this article in a second, but first we need to introduce the concept of the screen.
The Screen and Equipment
There are two basic considerations to make when looking at a screen: the material its made of and the size. The factors that go into this decision can be intricately dissected – there are three parts to the video in a front projection setup different from a standard TV: the room, the projector and the screen and each of these variable interact with one another.
The size of a screen, like many things, starts with preference. Do you like to sit in the front of the theater or the back? If you like the front, then you'll be looking for a generally bigger screen; back, smaller. If you want some more guidance, there are a few places to start. First, try firing up the projector on a sheet or piece of blackout cloth (available from most fabric stores) or even the wall. Play with different sizes and see what you're comfortable with over the course of a couple of days or weeks, then measure where you settled in on. Additionally, THX has made recommendations on what they feel is the optimal viewing angle – maximizing the immersive quality of movies, but not making the screen so big that you can't see all of the action. Their recommendation is a 360 viewing angle (180 off axis).
A handy calculator to you can be found at:
This will give you a ballpark of where to start.
The size of an image isn't just dictated by the ideals, but also the room and your projector. The projector needs to not only be able to zoom to the correct size, but also be able to produce adequate light to fill the screen. In addition, the screen material that actually reflects the light coming from the projector has variables that will also play a role in the overall picture quality of the image.
I don't want to make this overly complicated – I'll freely admit that I was ignorant of many if not all of the variable that go into these choices when I was undertaking my project. My room was small (12 feet x 12 feet) and my projector selection and placement options were limited, so many of the potential variables had to be ignored. I opted to let THX be my guide. With the couch along the back wall, my viewing distance was about 11 feet, yielding an optimum THX screen size of 92†diagonal (16:9 aspect ratio).
If you do have the flexibility on placement of the projector, some simple analysis can allow you to maximize the performance of the video that you'll have in your room. Again, I enthusiastically refer you again to Bob Sorels post at the AVS Forum. Before you choose a projector, where it'll be placed, the screen size and screen material, it will serve you well to walk through some of the basic calculations to make sure that you will achieving the best image that you can and that your projector and screen pair well.
In terms of my specific decision: When I undertook this project, we were at the beginning of the Internet direct phenomenon with high quality gear being marketed directly to the consumer. Screens were one of the areas that benefited from this trend. Home theater screen were traditionally fairly expensive – however new companies, like Carada, began offering well built screens direct to consumers at substantially discounted prices versus the more traditional names.
I opted for one of these and have been extremely happy with the product – the build quality is exceptional. Now, there are literally dozens of screen manufacturers out there marketing very nice screens at fractions of the cost of the more traditional Stewarts, Da-lits, and Drapers. Home theater projectors at this time were significantly lacking in their ability to produce blacks and I chose a screen material that was designed to try and compensate for these problems. You can read about Carada's approach to this problem on their website – http://carada.com/Projection-Screen-Surface-Material.aspx – other companies had taken different approaches to address mediocre black levels. This is far less of a concern now as projector manufacturers have made enormous strides in black level performance.
At the end of this process, my room consisted of the following equipment:
- DVD Player: Denon DVD-1600
- Receiver: Denon AVR-3802
- Projector: Sanyo PLV-Z2
- Screen: Carada Precision Series 92†High Contrast Grey
- Speakers: PSB Stratus Silveri (R/L), PSB Stratus C5i (C), PSB Image 1B (SL/SR)
- Interconnects: Blue Jeans Cable
Next Steps
In the next part of this series I'll start talking about upgrades, specifically focusing on the thought process that went into each decision I made. We'll end that section with a discussion of the current video and audio chain. Let me know your questions so that we can add relevant commentary.


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Tuesday, July 22, 2008
Q & A after the London Premiere of FTBTMS (audio only)
4 comments:
- Tom in Durham said...
Dear Bishop Gene ... I try to follow your footsteps each day on this site. Today I am overwhelmed with the burden you carry in this prophetic witness God has placed on you. Having been (and still) in that place of being hurt so badly by the Church, I thank God each day that there are people such as yourself who speak of a God of compassion and love, a God who sees in all of us the image of children, a God who excludes no one. May this same God continue to strengthen you with his grace, sustain you with divine power, and surround you with unending love. Your flock in NH prays for you.
- July 23, 2008 at 2:48 PM
- W. Huber said...
This stream is very low quality, and most of it is unintelligible. I'd really like to listen to it though. Could, maybe, a high quality version be posted somewhere to be downloaded instead of streamed?
I happen to own some audio editing software and I'd be willing to try to clean up and compress the raw audio for you, if you need some help and can send me the original files.
~Warren Huber
- July 23, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Dear Gene:
"Open my heart for mutual learning" and "keep me grounded in the spirit of love, forgiveness and compassion" are the words that you ask us (the faithful of New Hampshire) to pray for you as you travel your strange journey to Lambeth.
It is difficult to understand and very bewildering to us why you would want to be associated with the opening of "FTBTMS" which is nothing but a pseudo-documentary/infomercial that in part maligns, trashes, and unabashedly demonizes many of your wonderful Christian brothers and sisters in America. By attending this opening and associating with this rather dubious enterprise you have dishonored and trivialized your own diocesan slogan of, "Infinite respect and radical hospitality" for all people. Please be careful whom and what you associate with during your odyssey as the whole world is watching.
Gene, we love you and are praying for you daily,
Lou M. of Ossipee
- July 25, 2008 at 7:32 AM
I found the film and Q&A afterwards very moving and inspiring. As a gay man without much faith in the Church, the election of a far-away bishop who happened to be gay meant little to me. The Anglican 'Church' reacted predictably and I couldn't be bothered with it.
But having seen Bishop Robinson in person my attitude is quite changed. It is marvellous he should be the world's first openly gay bishop, and wonderful that the people of New Hampshire have elected him.
The film opened my eyes to the depth of suffering many gay Christians and their families experience, and to the remarkable saving grace that comes from overcoming prejudice with love.
- July 28, 2008 at 11:07 AM


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Ally Financial Named Preferred Provider for VPG
January 23, 2012 by RVBusiness · Comments Off on Ally Financial Named Preferred Provider for VPG
The Vehicle Production Group LLC (VPG) selected Ally Financial as the preferred financing provider for its vehicles in the U.S. According to a press release, Ally Financial will offer wholesale financing, floorplan insurance and remarketing services for VPG dealers, as well as retail financing for their customers.
VPG introduced the MV-1 mobility vehicle in September 2011. It is the first factory-built mobility vehicle that is compliant with American Disabilities Act guidelines, designed and engineered for efficient wheelchair accessibility. The MV-1 is assembled by AM General LLC in Mishawaka, Ind., and is offered in several models, including a factory-direct compressed natural gas (CNG) fueling system.
VPG and Ally have entered into a multi-year agreement for the preferred provider financing relationship.
Mark Manzo, vice president of Alliance Sales at Ally Financial, said: "We are proud to add The Vehicle Production Group to our list of preferred clients. Our underwriting team stands ready to support MV-1 sales. The relationship with VPG will enable us to serve the growing population in need of mobility vehicles."
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 3.3 million people in the U.S. age 15 years and older used a wheelchair in 2010.
In the U.S., Ally Financial is currently the preferred financing provider for General Motors, Chrysler, Fiat, Maserati and Saab vehicles and Thor Industries Inc. The company finances both new and used vehicles, as well as offering insurance products and remarketing services for auto and RV dealers.


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The acronym RAGS can be a helpful tool for talking to students about their alcohol and drug use, and encouraging a student to reflect on his/her relationship with a substance. A student could be encouraged to ask him/herself the following questions:
Have you ever felt you should…Reduce your substance use?
Have you ever felt…Annoyed by others criticizing your substance use?
Have you ever felt…Guilty about using a substance?
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Answering yes to two or more questions may indicate an unhealthy relationship with substances. In this circumstance, consultation with a professional is recommended. Alcohol or other drug overdose symptoms vary widely depending on the specific drug(s) used, but may include the following:
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Encouraging students to get help can make all the difference. If a student displays any signs or symptoms of overdose or withdrawal, please treat as a medical emergency and dial 911 and then immediately call the Wellness Exchange at (212) 443-9999 for further consultation and assistance.
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The Orinoco Basin, extending from the Andes and the plains of the Llanos and the Guiana shield of Colombia and Venezuela to the Atlantic, covers 980,000km2. The river flows 2,140km from its source in the extreme south of the Guianan massif until reaching the ocean.
The "Oriniquia" as it's known locally, represents one of the most biologically and hydrologically diverse areas of the world. At over 33,000 m3/sec, it ranks fourth worldwide in average discharge.
The Orinoco through the seasons
The Orinoco changes greatly from season to season.
Between May and August, rainfall oscillating between 5,000 and 7,000mm and the relatively flat topographic conditions of the basin generate a flooded area covering almost 10% of the basin. This creates new habitats and resources for many aquatic species.
In Ciudad Bolivar (the capital of the eastern Venezuelan state of Bolivar), the annual variation in water level ranges from 15m to 18m and the discharge rate varies from one season to the next.[1]
A tributary of the Orinoco River called the Casiquiare connects with the Rio Negro, a tributary of the Amazon River, forming a 'natural canal' between the Orinoco and the Amazon River.
A geological history along the Orinoco River
The Orinoco River runs through two distinct geological areas: one is the oldest geological formation on the continent, to the south of the river, and the other is a relatively recent formation of land, created by sediment washed down from the Andes.
Over time, the eroding action of the river has contributed to the isolation of an area of high sandstone mesas, locally known as the tepuis, some with an altitude of 1,500m. One of these is home to Angel Falls, which at nearly 1,000m is the highest free-falling waterfall on Earth.
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Taylor Swift Brings Cancer Survivor to ACM Awards 2013!
Taylor Swift poses with cancer survivor Kevin McGuire backstage after her performance at the 2013 Academy of Country Music Awards held at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on Sunday (April 7) in Las Vegas, Nev.
The 23-year-old country singer invited Kevin to last year's show after he asked her to be his prom date. Unfortunately, his health was bad at the time and he couldn't make it, so this year the Academy flew his entire family to Vegas for the show!
Over the weekend, Taylor met up with the family to hang out and spend some time together. Then at the big show they met up again in their fancy clothes. Check out all the pics below!


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Like hundreds of fans lining the red carpet at the Screen Actors Guild Awards this past weekend, Karalee Miller was determined to memorialize a celebrity moment. From behind the velvet ropes, the 35-year-old Burbank woman screamed and screamed for actor Bradley Cooper's attention.
When the "Silver Linings Playbook" actor finally approached her, she drew out her trusty point-and-shoot camera and at arm's length snapped a strained cheek-to-cheek photo with Cooper. It was just the beginning of an evening of such pictures for countless other fans and performers.
Autographs: An article in the Jan. 30 Section A about the diminishing demand for celebrity autographs misspelled the first name of actor Jamie Foxx as Jaime.
"A photo is proof that I was near the people that, before this, only existed on my TV screen or in the movies," said Miller, who earlier had managed to snag a shot with "Breaking Bad" actor Bryan Cranston. "A photo can show a smile or an outfit to your friends; a signature can't."
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In a very gutsy bit of speculation, Pete Skyllas, a plumbing business owner who bought this 2,300-square-foot, triangle-shaped building in 2003, renovated it as a home for three eateries in hopes that the Columbia University development just to the south will create a market for high-end restaurants. It's a remarkably desolate area and most of the existing nearby residents aren't exactly regular patrons of high-end fare. While waiting for the Columbia expansion to reach full bloom, he is hoping to attract a meatpacking-district type of crowd. With gentrification in the area, he may be on the leading edge of a nice trend and in the long run he may look like a genius. But he may need quite a bit of cash to survive for the interim. (reference).
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Husband and Jason
Added Oct 18, 2013
by cynthia-1
Wollongong, Aust...
It's not often that my husband* goes shopping for clothes, so when I saw him eyeing off a simple casual vest at the shops, I thought to myself, I've got a pattern for that!
I used the Burdastyle's Jason pattern with a few adjustments to lengthen the vest slightly and improve the fit around the back and at the armscye. The pattern was simple to sew and I enjoyed this method of making welt pockets.
Husband did not like the upper pockets, so I made only the two lower welt pockets. And of course, the customer is always right – so even though I wanted to do a surprise contrast polka-dot tightening strap at the back, or even just use the polka-dot fabric as lining for the tightening strap, I was overruled. Oh well, at least I got to use the polka-dots for the lining of the vest. Husband chose his own buttons from Spotlight- chubby copper-toned ones, I think it gives the vest a little bit of a steampunk feel.
It's been a surprisingly versatile item of clothing – suitable for weddings, work and casual wear depending on what it's worn with.
- Thanks husband for posing for photos in your new favourite vest!
Material Notes
Black cotton drill; polka-dot cotton lining; 5 buttons; vest buckle; thread
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Oct 15, 2014, 10.21 AMby SassyT
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Oct 15, 2014, 10.19 AMby SassyT
Love this.
Feb 1, 2014, 04.07 PMby hanmade
Did you extend at both lines to make it longer? I'm making the vest for someone who is 6'7, and it needs to be about 5 inches longer than it is now
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Feb 17, 2014, 01.52 PMby cynthia-1
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, I lengthened all pattern pieces so that it was even throughout. Good luck!
Regards, Cynthia.
Oct 18, 2013, 05.09 PMby martinK
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Well, nothing except their responses to the following question.
So how does this chase for the championship end?
�I�m winning,� Payne said. �I�m winning this championship. I won�t wreck him, but I will win, I promise you. And he�d say the same the thing.�
Not this time at least.
Same question to Dalton.
So how does this chase for the championship end?
�I don�t know. It�s hard to say, man,� he said. �Win or lose, we�ve come with a fight. But I sure hope we come out winning.�
Dalton won and Payne placed second two weeks ago in the division�s most recent race, finishes that proved critically important to each driver.
For Dalton, the teenager who claimed Ace�s 2010 Limited Late Models� title, the victory marked his first since Aug. 3 and restored some confidence.
�We felt like the car was just getting worse and worse as it went on,� he said. �But things have come back together. We found us a hot spot, and we�re hitting it hard.�
Meanwhile, Payne avoided a potentially disastrous situation two weeks ago when the engine in his No. 9 Ford expired during pre-race practice.
Thanks to Robert Turner�s generosity and quick mechanical conversion work, Payne was able to drive Turner�s Late Models car, which had been outfitted with the proper carburetor and tires for Limited Late Models standards.
And now, after a full 16-race season, a championship stage is set for tonight at Ace.
�It�s what all the fans wanted to see,� Payne said.


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Sociology class survey finds ISU students likely to participate in caucuses
A survey this month by students in University Professor of Sociology Bill Woodman's survey research methods course found that among 2,185 ISU students, 73 percent were already registered to vote, and 58 percent of those registered students intended to participate in the caucuses.
ISU signs admissions partnerships with two community colleges
Iowa State University President Gregory Geoffroy signed admissions partnership agreements today with presidents from Western Iowa Tech Community College and Northwest Iowa Community College. The agreements will make it more convenient for WITCC and NCC students who want to earn a bachelor's degree to transfer to ISU.
Tune in Tuesday for 'Modern Marvels: The Pig'
For the second week in a row, Iowa State faculty experts are featured on the History Channel's "Modern Marvels." Distinguished Professor Max Rothschild and Ken Prusa, professor of food science and human nutrition, will appear on "Modern Marvels: The Pig" at 7 p.m. and 11 p.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 27. The History Channel is available on Mediacom cable channel 45 in Ames and Des Moines. DirecTV viewers can see the show on channel 269; Dish Network subscribers can see it on channel 120.
FedEx president, founder to present Manatt-Phelps Lecture in Political Science on Dec. 4
The founder, president and CEO of the Federal Express Corp., Frederick Smith, will present the sixth annual Manatt-Phelps Lecture in Political Science at ISU. He will speak on "Trends and Issues in the World Marketplace" at 8 p.m. on Tuesday, Dec. 4, in the Sun Room, Memorial Union.
ISU primatologist to teach online course from chimp research site in Senegal
A new online course will allow students to learn from ISU primatologist Jill Pruetz and the chimps living at her research site in Senegal. The anthropology course Primate Behavior (Anthr 350x/550x) will begin March 10 and feature some live satellite video feeds of Pruetz from the field in Senegal.
Petermeiers commit $1.5 million to Iowa State
Craig and Virginia Petermeier of Mingo have made a deferred gift of $1 million to the Iowa State University College of Business endowment for unrestricted use in the areas of greatest need; and a $500,000 pledge to the ISU athletics department for facility renovations.
Sen. Chris Dodd on campus
Sen. Christopher Dodd, Democratic candidate for president, will speak about his book, "Letters from Nuremberg: My Father's Narrative of a Quest for Justice," at 6 p.m. Tuesday, Nov. 27, in the Memorial Union Sun Room. Dodd's father, Thomas, was an attorney in the Nuremberg trials of Nazi leaders. The book compiles his letters to his wife during that time. The lecture is part of the Presidential Caucus Series, providing the university community with opportunities to question presidential candidates or their representative before the precinct caucuses.
High school students hard at work prepping for Iowa State technology competition
High school students across the state are learning about cyber defense, robotics and game design as part of Iowa State University's new IT-Adventures program. The program's goal is to hook students on information technology as a field of study and work.
ISU professor tests athletic shoes and Army boots; hopes to go galactic
ISU Associate Professor of Kinesiology Tim Derrick has tested athletic shoes for Consumer Reports and Runner's World, and combat boots for the U.S. Army. He has a grant proposal in to test the stress forces on the bones in reduced gravity environments for NASA.
Iowa State Professor Awarded USDA Excellence in Teaching Award
Iowa State University faculty member Amy Kaleita has been awarded the U.S. Department of Agriculture Food and Agricultural Sciences Excellence in Teaching Award.
Iowa State Professor Presented National Teaching Honor
Iowa State University horticulture Professor Gail Nonnecke has been selected Iowa Professor of the Year by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching and the Council for the Advancement and Support of Education.
ISU students who live on campus have housing option if they plan to caucus
ISU's Department of Residence will open a floor in Wallace Hall Jan. 2 through 4 for residents to participate in the Jan. 3 Iowa Caucus.
Blossoms of Light at Reiman Gardens
Reiman Gardens' annual Blossoms of Light Festival, Nov. 30 (5-8 p.m.) will feature thousands of lights, a garden railroad display, live musical performances and family crafts. The butterfly wing will be open offering a glimpse of the butterflies while they sleep.
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Harrowing journey led runner from war-torn Sudan to Iowa State
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ISU cross country runner Guor Majak Marial, who lost his home and many family members in war-ravaged Southern Sudan, has found peace in his adopted land. "I feel really fortunate I'm in college and getting an education," Majak said.
Do you know what was pumped in your turkey?
Additives can be found in the traditional Thanksgiving meal. But Sam Beattie, an ISU Extension specialist and assistant professor, says the bigger concern is improper food handling and potential contamination of surfaces with turkey and other raw meats. "Ensuring the safety of the food that you serve and consume is important in having a healthy holiday season," Beattie says.
Dodd's spent lifetime in politics, thinks he's due to step up
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Ryan Edgley
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WCSU Degree: Bachelor of Arts in Graphic Design
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Honors and Awards: Dean's list for 5 semesters; 3.62 GPA; W.B. Connor Scholarship recipient, 2007; named a team captain for the WCSU Men's Soccer team, 2007 season
A resident of the southeastern part of Connecticut, Ryan Edgley came to WestConn "mainly because of the graphic design department. I also came to play soccer," he says. "Both the graphic design department and the men's soccer program were excellent, and I saw WestConn as a great way to further my soccer career and get a great education.
While some students aren't entirely sure about the academic areas they want to study, Edgley knew what he wanted to pursue. "I decided to major in graphic design because I have always had a passion for creating art and because it is currently a very popular line of work," he says. "For me, personally, it all just fits. In the field of graphic design, an employer or a prospective client comes to you with an idea or a problem. As a graphic designer it is my job to make that idea work or to solve the problem. That is what I love about graphic design -- that it is a process. It is a process of arranging words and images in such a way that they are appealing and informative."
Edgley says that while at WestConn he's acquired meaningful skills that will enhance his career. "The professors in the graphic design department have been valuable to me. Art professors David Skora and Terry Wells have instilled in me the basics I will need to survive when I leave school and enter the world of graphic design."
Asked what he will remember most about his WestConn experience, Edgley says, "My most memorable experience would have to be winning the Men's Soccer Little East Conference Championship my sophomore year. It was my great privilege to be able to take the game-winning penalty kick that made the WCSU Men's Soccer team the LEC Champions."
After graduation, Edgley's long-term goals include "getting out into the world to get some good working experience and make a living." Graduate school may also be on the horizon.
Edgley's advice to new students entering WCSU is: "I would say have a great time but stay on track. Be sure to maintain the balance between work and play. Make the best of all opportunities; college is four years, but it will be the fastest four years of your life."


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Fan Art / Re: EU Female Clone Trooper Commando in battle« on: August 21, 2008, 03:47 AM »
Actually, there actually was suppose to be a female clone trooper (not in the movies though). The trooper was suppose to be an experiment for more covert action in public areas. However, after multiple tests and training exercises, she turned out to be more suited for a commando role. She was suppose to be kept under raps by the kaminoins and only a few male troopers new of her existence. Their job was to make sure that other clones didn't discover her whenever she was stationed on Kamino, and they did it without question. I think she was suppose to be a solo scout commando. Anyways, it was a good idea to me, but they declined it for some reason. They were probably right too. It was kinda pushing the limits of star wars. Still, she would have looked beautiful in my imagination. I drew a picture, I just don't have access to a scanner though... *sigh*


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In my first confession in the second grade, I nervously proclaimed my sins so loudly that everyone heard me outside the confessional booth.
Let's just say my Catholic experience didn't improve much after that. Most of the rituals seemed boring, obligatory and rote.
But as I grew older and encountered hardships, such as my father's death, I found comfort in another church, this one Protestant. For the first time, my faith felt alive and relevant, and I celebrated Easter and other Christian holidays with real joy.
Then in 2009, my sister, Lynn, was diagnosed with an especially aggressive form of breast cancer. I questioned God daily, harangued him really, but was continually awed by the people who appeared in my life as a result of her sickness.
Alice Brown, newly diagnosed with breast cancer, was among them. We corresponded through email, trained together for a three-day breast cancer walk, and cried when it ended.
Nine months after she was diagnosed, Lynn died in February, just short of her 44th birthday. I barely remember Easter that year, just going through the motions.
The following year, Alice invited me to a special Stations of the Cross service at St. James Roman Catholic Church in Arlington Heights. I knew the service follows the last hours of Jesus, as he is beaten, crucified and buried.
Only this was different. Alice, a writer and actress, wrote a version of the Stations as a performance, focusing on survivors and their cancer journeys. At one station, a man described his helplessness upon learning that his child was sick. At another, a woman recalled how her husband and children shaved their heads so she wouldn't be alone.
At the 12th Station, where Jesus dies on the cross, Alice spoke and I recognized the story: "Lynn was 43 when she died. … Why did her disease progress so rapidly? Was this really God's will?"
I was instantly in tears, as I listened to her voice my own doubts, thoughts and prayers. Emotional, yes. Cathartic, too, as she acknowledged my pain — everyone's pain — out loud. Speaking the words made it real, and brought us back to that place where every second of life holds value and our daily gripes seem trivial.
Alice remembered Lynn's strange craving for Fritos, and how we could get her to laugh with the "Mahna Mahna" song from "The Muppet Show."
This year, I returned to Alice's Stations of the Cross prepared with tissues and a softer heart. Each person's story carried sadness, but also light and hope and prayer for better days ahead. It was soothing in a weird way. Because forging through the difficult stages of life is like that.
Sometimes, a little ritual goes a long way toward transformation, when hurt is refined into wisdom. In this way, I know that Easter is more than chicks, bunnies and the advent of spring.
Easter is a renewal, a commitment to loving God and looking for ways to help others shoulder their own cross.


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Speaking at the first Judiciary Committee hearing on immigration reform yesterday, Senator Chuck Grassley tied his concerns about the issue to the bombings in Boston this week, which were allegedly carried out by immigrants who had lived in the United States for years.
'Given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system,' he said. 'While we don't yet know the immigration status of the people who have terrorized the communities in Massachusetts, when we find out, it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system.'
'How can individuals evade authorities and plan such attacks on our soil?' Grassley continued. 'How can we beef up security checks on people who wish to enter the US? How do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws, including this new bill before us?'
According to the Huffington Post, the hearing was rocked by the events in Boston and by news that police had been caught in a gun fight with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, the brothers who were identified Thursday as the chief suspects in the bombing at the Boston Marathon.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev was reportedly killed in the firefight but his younger brother is still was still on the run. It is not yet know which types of visas the two young men came to America with but it understood that both men entered the country legally. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev reportedly became a citizen on September 11 of last year, while Tamerlan Tsarnaev became a legal permanent resident in 2007, the Post reported.
Some Republicans saw an opportunity to halt progress on reform and argued that plans to legalize undocumented immigrants should be delayed by the events. Speaking earlier in week Congressman Steve King, a well known opponent of immigration reform, expressed his concerns: 'Some of the speculation that has come out is that, yes, it was a foreign national and, speculating here, that it was potentially a person on a student visa,' King told the National Review's Robert Costa. 'If that's the case, then we need to take a look at the big picture.'
But Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer, a member of the so-called gang of eight that drafted the reform legislation released this week, rebuked his Republican colleagues for tying the Boston bombings to the bill.
Schumer said he will work with the Department of Homeland Security to ensure efforts to strengthen the visa screening system, but reminded fellow senators that it's still unclear it would have helped in this case.
'I'd like to ask that all of us not jump to conclusions regarding events in Boston or conflate those events with this legislation,' Schumer said. 'In general, we're a safer country when law enforcement knows who is here, has their fingerprints, photos, etcetera, conducted background checks... Two days ago, as you may recall, there was widespread erroneous reports of arrests being made. This just emphasizes how important it is to allow the actual facts to come out before jumping to any conclusions.'
Schumer was referring to a New York Post story, after the newspaper was accused of jumping to conclusions when it ran a front page photo on Thursday of two men it said authorities were seeking after the Boston Marathon bombing. By afternoon it reported that they had been cleared, the FBI was not searching for them. On Monday the Post also reported that authorities had questioned a Saudi man, who was also later cleared of any involvement. The Post came in for further criticism when it reported that many more people had died in the attacks than turned out to be true.
Yesterday Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy also said that he does not believe the Boston bombing should affect the push for comprehensive immigration reform, nor should it.
'If we change the policies in this country every time something happens - whether it's Oklahoma City, 9/11, this - then we're never going to do anything,' he told reporters. 'We should think about where the best policies are for the United States and use those.'
Meanwhile Gang of eight members John McCain and Lindsey Graham issued a joint statement on Friday afternoon saying they believed their reform bill would boost national security:
'In the wake of this week's terrorist attack in Boston, some have already suggested that the circumstances of this terrible tragedy are justification for delaying or stopping entirely the effort for comprehensive immigration reform. In fact the opposite is true: Immigration reform will strengthen our nation's security by helping us identify exactly who has entered our country and who has left -- a basic function of government that our broken immigration system is incapable of accomplishing today.
The status quo is unacceptable. We have 11 million people living in the shadows, which leaves this nation vulnerable to a myriad of threats. That is all the more reason why comprehensive immigration reform is so essential. By modernizing our system of legal immigration, identifying and conducting background checks on people here illegally, and finally securing our border, we will make America more secure.'


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US Jewish leader criticizes Israel boycott drive
JERUSALEM (AP) — A top American Jewish leader on Thursday called on Western governments to combat the growing international campaign to boycott Israel over its settlement activities, saying the phenomenon is one of the greatest challenges facing Israel.
Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, told The Associated Press that the drive masks a "politically correct" form of anti-Semitism and urged "zero tolerance" of the boycott.
His comments came just days after warnings by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry that Israel could find itself increasingly targeted by a boycott if it fails to reach a peace deal with the Palestinians. Kerry is mediating Israeli-Palestinian talks and is to present his vision soon for a deal, at least in its outlines.
A bulldozer works on a Palestinian home demolished in East Jerusalem Wednesday, Feb. 5, 2014, Three Palestinian homes were demolished in the neighborhood, as the Israeli planners Wednesday gave final approval for 558 apartments in Jewish settlements in war-won east Jerusalem. (AP Photo/Mahmoud Illean)
Wide gaps remain between the sides on all key issues, including the fate of some 550,000 Israeli settlers who live on war-won land in east Jerusalem and the West Bank, two territories the Palestinians seek for their state, along with the Gaza Strip.
tinued settlement activities have moved to center stage in the Israeli public discourse.
A small but growing number of European businesses and pension funds have dropped investments or limited trade recently with Israeli firms involved in West Bank settlements. At the same time, a Palestinian-led movement of boycott, divestment and sanctions —knows by its acronym, BDS — has scored some successes.
Israeli officials hold different views on the boycott issue, depending on their political position.
Finance Minister Yair Lapid, a centrist who supports reaching a deal with the Palestinians, has warned that a failure of the talks could further isolate Israel and hurt every Israeli financially. Hard-liners have played down the threat or said boycott supporters apply a double standard, targeting only Israel.
The BDS movement includes a range of views, with some activists calling for a bi-national state in all of the Holy Land and others supporting a two-state solution. The latter argue that Israel will only withdraw from war-won lands if it pays a price for continued occupation.
Hoenlein said he believes the boycott campaign is dangerous to Israel.
"We have to counter the BDS movement in the strongest possible way," he said in the interview with the AP. "That means zero tolerance, and that has to become the mantra of our time because that is one the challenges of our time, this and Iran, and this is something that future generations will judge us by because they will pay the price for it."
"People are beginning to recognize how nefarious this is, how insidious this movement is that it is not something to be dismissed," he added.
Hoenlein said those boycotting Israel are undermining prospects of peace and are harming the economic interests of the Palestinians. He said at least one mayor of a large Palestinian city has asked him to combat the boycott movement for fear of the jobs it would cost Palestinians in Israeli settlements.
Thousands of Palestinians work in settlement businesses and factories, in part because of high unemployment in the Palestinian-administered parts of the West Bank. Palestinians say their economy has been choked by Israeli restrictions and that they could create thousands of new jobs if occupation ends.
Also on Thursday, a U.N. agency said Israel in 2013 demolished 390 shacks and other structures in the West Bank's strategic Jordan Valley, displacing nearly 600 Palestinians, twice as many as the year before. In 2012, 172 structures were demolished, said the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.
Israeli officials had no immediate comment but have in the past said that structures set up without permits are being razed. Critics say Israel has sharply restricted Palestinian development in the valley and has maintained control over most of the land in the area.
The fate of the valley is one of the sticking points in U.S.-led peace talks.
The valley would form the eastern border of a Palestinian state with Jordan. Israel seeks a long-term military presence in the valley even after any deal, citing security concerns, including the possible influx of weapons and militants from the east. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has said he would consider a gradual Israeli troop withdrawal from a Palestinian state over five years, but not longer.
Palestinians say they need the sparsely populated valley as the breadbasket of their future state and for resettling Palestinian refugees who would return from exile.
Baraq, a Kuwaiti-born Palestinian, has been jailed since he crossed into the West Bank from Jordan on 2010.
The indictment said al-Baraq was trained in Afghanistan as an expert in biological warfare and planned to train other Palestinians how to use them. It said he has been active in al-Qaida since 2001 and was recruited by Ayman al-Zawahri, the current al-Qaida chief.
He was previously arrested and released by the United States and Jordan, the army said.
Associated Press writer Karin Laub in Ramallah, West Bank, contributed to this report.
FILE - In this Feb. 21, 2012 file photo, Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, speaks during an interview with The Associated Press after returning from a meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah II, in Jerusalem. Hoenlein told the AP on Thursday, Feb. 6, 2014, the boycott movement, along with Iran¿s nuclear program, poses one of the greatest challenges to Israel. (AP Photo/Maya Hasson, File)
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|2013-02-05, 05:19
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Complaint: Nothing is being done about casual spoiler culture in some threads
Some topics--in this case I'm talking about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure--have developed a culture of casually spoiling the manga, and you moderators seem to think that's OK, because nothing is being done about it.
I stopped reading the thread after I issued warnings and participants continued with their habits. I suspect they didn't receive proper punishment. Five minutes ago, after a long time, I decide to check out the thread again because I was excited about the anime's sales success, and yet again, I find a casual manga spoiler (I believe those are completely forbidden in anime topics).
I'm not even gonna bother reporting all the offenders, because I'm probably going to catch another spoiler and regret it. This is a complete failure of the moderator team. I expected the thread to have a lot more replies than it has, but I'm not at all surprised anymore, because this kind of spoiler culture is driving away potential discussion participants, including myself.
|2013-02-05, 05:31
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I'll vouch for having been turned away from certain threads due to the same casual spoiler issue mentioned as well.
At the heart of it, you're always going to have people misbehaving either unknowingly or knowingly (due to laziness as one potential reason). I don't think the problem can be stamped out altogether but at the very least, all of us can help minimize the effects. Sometimes I do wonder if the report feature may need to be stressed a little more so that the wider forums are aware of it and are using it.
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Location: Belgium, Brussels
Age: 32
That being said, I'm not going to state these were "natural" occurence, but I must say that we just can't be everywhere at the same time, and spoiler reports aren't as numerous as the occurences we could witness.
This is even more true for some series that none of us is actually checking (as in, it would be hard for us in the first place to figure out if X or Y mention is a spoiler or not).
As for Jojo's thread, I'm probably the only mod watching the series and I basically stopped checking it a little before Battle Tendency, so I didn't see the expectations turning into a spoiler discussion being that casual. But considering how the discussion with manga readers flew that much for quite a while, I assume it is best to create a "anime only" thread in order not to impair that much everything that has been discussed so far. That's the best compromise I can think of.
In a nutshell: we were never fine with this kind of forum habit that some people might have with few other members about specific series, so the lack of intervention is primarily because we are just not aware it is occuring.
Therefore, should anything of that kind happen, it would be best to make a report, however early it might be.
|2013-02-05, 06:48
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On a slightly more serious tone, I think the report feature has already been stressed enough by mods repeatedly in the past, just that not everyone bothered to heed them .
Can I ask the mods here: just how often the report post feature is used?
|2013-02-05, 06:55
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I know it is inevitable that sometimes things will be missed, but I don't agree that regular members should shoulder the responsibility to police a thread that has gone out of control. If I see a spoiler, I will report it, but if I see multiple spoilers and expect to be spoiled further on if I decide to read on, it is just not worth it; I rather leave the thread to its own devices. I just don't think it's fair that original source readers hog threads for themselves in this manner, and lack of policing or punishments not fitting the "crime" is not going to make this problem go away.
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阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv168
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It wasn't something we would have condoned anyway, regardless if the spoilers are minor or major. However, it isn't like we can be everywhere and see how a thread evolve regarding spoilers.
Let's take the Jojo TV thread: only 3 reports were done, which were by you, cyth, within the same day, and these posts were taken off. At this period, the thread was lively, but arguably not a spoiler festival as it became few weeks ago, so the actions taken were simply the removal of the spoilers without forcing to put a warning in public.
And after that, no report was done, none. So unless a mod check the thread themselves and see the recent spoiler tendencies, there wouldn't be any way for us to realize the thread was beyond than simple "casual spoilers".
We don't expect members to police threads etc, but realistically speaking, there is no way for us to find out every possible spoilers around, especially if people don't even bother reporting these.
So no, we don't condone that, and should we find out/got notified about these occurences, measures are taken. So your conclusion there is a lack of policing or punishment is puzzling me.
It is quite the irony, because more often than not, we are considered like spoiler nazi.
|2013-02-05, 19:04
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Well, I can't say that I'm surprised it's come to this.
I saw and discussed the first signs of this way back when the SAO subforum was launched. Here's the pertinent thread.
Here's the problem, as I see it - Anime Suki's current spoiler policy is simply unenforceable. There's various reasons for this, but the main one is that we anime-only viewers are the exception, not the rule. We're the minority. And it's only a minority of that minority that cares enough about spoilers to regularly report them. And that degree of reporting simply won't be enough... but even if it was enough, its arguably too huge a burden for Anime Suki's Moderating Staff because of how widespread the casual spoiler culture is.
The majority is not going to refrain from discussing spoilers just for our sake. It may sound selfish, it may sound unfair, but that's the way it is.
You might convince the majority to put their spoilers inside of spoiler tags, which at least means that when one of us anime-only viewers gets spoiled, it's by choice, and not merely due to being in a series thread or episode thread.
I'm very confident that you'll never convince the majority to not discuss spoilers at all. This is particularly true of series threads that lack a subforum (but even subforums can have problems here).
So I think we should encourage people to use spoiler tags more often, and to totally free up the places where spoiler tags can be used. But I know the Moderators probably don't like that idea.
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I've given some thought to what can be done, and I think the problem might be partially solved technically.
First issue is that members don't know how to use spoiler descriptions. Remove spoiler descriptions!
To alleviate this change, the forum could introduce different spoiler tags that would have a distinct look, two at least: spoiler tags for Source and Regular spoiler tags. So it would come down to a choice between one type of spoiler and another, rather than putting effort into writing the description, which for some people, my mind be boggled, is an impossible task.
The spoiler policy should also be changed, if you decide to implement this. Instead of explicitly forbidding source spoilers, their use would merely be discouraged in anime topics. This would lift some burden off moderator team and, if Triple_R's assessment is valid, get rules more in line with the forum's culture.
I'm probably shooting myself in the foot for suggesting this, but I'd give it a try anyways.
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Ooh, ok I definitely don't do that...
And I like your spoiler tags for source and regular idea. But, that's not how it already is? Or how it should be... that people post source spoilers in the source threads, and if they're aren't any source threads then they can make some. I agree that people who know source material that spoils the subject of the thread they're in (not source thread) should not post such information in the current thread. If so, hide it behind spoiler tags. And if you do, only put who it is a spoiler for in the description. Like I'll always put "Spoiler if you didn't read the manga to chapter 10" or "Spoiler if you didn't listen to the drama cd", stuff like that.
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If the source is a book or game, you can create the thread by yourself. If the source is an anime, then you can create a thread under "Upcoming Anime", then ask a mod to move it to either "Current Series" or "Older Series".
And if you ever need to create a new thread in an anime specific subforum then you just make a post asking a mod to do so in the subforum's "Requests for New Threads".
There is a place for the majority of discussion to occur without spoiling the innocent, and if there isn't you can either create one instantly or ask in the appropriate place then report your post so a mod will come look at it (I would only report for subforums no one ever goes to anymore though). The issue is that not everyone knows/cares about this and some people just shoot unmarked/poorly marked spoilers around in threads targeted to people who may not be familiar with the spoilers/source material.
Of course the only exceptions are the "Retired Series", no new threads there. But afaik if there is an important release of something related that is not anime, you can just make a new thread for it yourself (e.g. if a Kanon game sequel came out tomorrow, I'm sure mods will be fine if you just make a new thread in "Games" since the Kanon subforum is retired and cannot have any more new threads unless it is taken out of Retirement).
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My solution is: if people would just report the damn spoilers, we will ban the offenders. First offence gets a day. Second offence gets 5 days. And up from there. And if that doesn't "convince the majority to not discuss spoilers at all [in anime threads]", then that "majority" will no longer be registered members on this forum. If that culls the membership significantly but we have a remainder that can respect the forum rules, then fine. But I don't think that's what's going to happen actually.
You brought up SAO, which seemed like an epidemic of spoilers at first. But within a few weeks of really aggressive spoiler policy policing, the spoilers slowed down to a crawl, and fellow posters helped each other to know when not to post. So it is an achievable goal. But the mods and I don't watch every anime and can't police every threads as aggressively as I policed SAO. So this is where we really need the help of members who do care about this to not be complacent, or to assume that either a) the mods don't care, or b) someone else must have reported it already.
The problem with spoilers is that people follow the trend. If one person starts posting spoilers, other people start thinking it's okay, and it becomes an accepted part of the sub-culture of that particular thread. People don't necessarily participate in threads across the site, so they may not bother paying attention to what the normal rules are. And because it becomes "part of the sub-culture" it causes some people to start thinking that it's okay (because, again, they assume that someone else reported it and the mods allowed it, as was implied by the thread here), which is probably not the case.
So anyway, creating threads like this is pointless because, unless you actually reported the problems, you are part of the problem. No, just reporting one or two posts and being like "oh the mods should know by now" is not good enough. I don't watch this show right now, so I'm not going to read the thread and be spoiled on things that happen in the anime (never mind what happens in the source material). Putting this all on the mod team like it's "our failure" is not fair. None of the mods receive a cent for doing anything on this site, so expecting us to voluntarily police threads for shows we don't even watch and to even be able to know when things are and aren't spoilers in such cases is not right (let alone always even possible). All the members are partners in helping enforce the rules, particularly on issues like this.
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lapsus linguae
are releasing a new record, despite not being together for about 5 years, this excites me, anyone else care?
- Gashwrecker this'd this
Just need
Sluts of Trust to do the same.cat_race and GoatmeatMF this'd this
::::DDDD I never thought this would happen!
New stuff is sounding promising
Probably the best news of 2013 so far
You Got Me Fraiche is still one of the best things ever. They'd better tour this album.Loui_Tacceh and GoatmeatMF this'd this
oh, just an EP
better than nothing though.
no it's an album AND an EP
spoilt rotten, we are
aye there's definitely no live dates as far as i know
only just releasing previously unfinished recordings
Hi, I was a member of this band
Just to confirm it is posthumous :( Its an EP - 3 tracks, 18 minutes then an Album - 8 tracks, a shade over 45 minutes. The material will be familiar to anyone who saw us in 2005-2006 when we were wearing ugly ill-fitting white women's clothing from the sale section of TK Maxx - http://youtu.be/cG3-NogVv1Q
...and I will be gigging in a similar new band next year
Once the new/old Lapsus Linguae tracks are out I'm going to be doing a new band called Dovesizedwasps - Since its a very similar lineup (keys/guitar/bass/drums/throat) and since Hopefully T-Bone ('linguae guitarist) will be part of the live show, including a couple of songs from the new linguae records when we start gigging in 2014 would be feasible, though no promises.
If you go to https://www.facebook.com/dovesizedwasps ...There is a free downloadable demo on the bandcamp tab. Though this demo is slightly more arabic funk (!) and a bit more structurally and rhythmically orthodox than linguae, the weirdness and the piano will be back in other songs.
would you rather right
100 wasp-sized doves or one dove-sized wasp?
one dove sized wasp, unless...
...it is a war of attrition. I reckon doves are just pigeons, which are just rats, which are full of germs, so if the singular Dove-sized wasp was besieged in its castle, the tiny doves could all piss in the moat and the dove sized wasp would get thirsty and drink from the moat and get mediaeval-aids-plague. Then it'd lose.
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Parade finally has a lyric!
Just listened to this three times in a row
Beautiful stuff.Oissin_ and Loui_Tacceh this'd this
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this might be better than Kayo DotOissin_ and Loui_Tacceh this'd this
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This Is Puberty will be the greatest album of all time
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My first Kickstarter pledge
Didn't go with the £5,000 one, sadly. The £125 one I'd actually consider in fatter financial times - it's a superb idea.
There are, what, 2? 3? bands I'd Kickstart IN THE WORLD
...so, seeing as I don't have a copy yet
I'm right now purchasing Sing To God from the Cardiacs website. That money had better all (mostly all) go straight to Tim('s physiotherapist)!
right so which other band would I just give money to
I guess I haven't given money to either band in any gratuitous sense - there's an exchange in both cases. Paid a little more to get a little back, I suppose.
I guess if Pete Hammill fell ill, I'd help. Hopefully he has a good few years left of hale form - the gig earlier this year might be the best I've been to.
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"The production staff has only gotten checks for two weeks' work, even though we've worked about four weeks," the source told Access.
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A spokesperson for the California Labor Board confirmed to Access on Wednesday that 20 employees have filed non-payment complaints against "The Brian McKnight Show," for a total cost of over $86,000, adding that the proceedings were, "at the very beginning of the process."
When reached by Access, a rep for McKnight said the show was "doing great" with the problems behind them.
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"Yes, admittedly there were some missteps in the beginning," the rep said. "Brian and his former business partner always took a 'divide and conquer' approach to business. His partner handled financing, the books, etc. Brian handled the creative. Admittedly he should have been more aware of what was going on, but that partner has been removed and going forward Brian is keeping an eye on everything. A new financial situation is in play – and Brian's first priority is to make sure his wonderful team that worked tirelessly with him on this show is compensated as quickly as possible."
According to Access' source, the show's two production companies, Mutiny Circle and McKnight's Gemini 3, were thought to be relying on additional cash from AEG Live – who pulled out of production on the pricey show.
"We were shooting the show down at LA Live, which AEG had the facilities for," the source said. "We were shooting at spaces like the Conga Room and Club Nokia. But AEG treated us like redheaded stepchildren. They wanted us to walk on eggshells around there."
The source claimed that AEG never signed a contract to co-produce the show.
"The problem is that none of these people have ever done TV before," the source continued. "They hadn't thought about licensing costs on a show that was heavy with music. But it's likely that they were banking on AEG's money, and when they bailed out, the financial bottom fell out."
According to McKnight's rep, "he quickly pulled the plug on production" and "scaled down to a core crew" after the initial missteps by his business partner, Silas White.
"AEG was not at all the problem," the rep said, further stating that the company had never been a production partner and denying the allegations of AEG having "bailed out" — without explaining AEG's alleged relationship to the show.
The rep asserted that production continues on the show outside of LA as McKnight hits the road to promote his latest album.
"We shot an episode in NYC last week, and next week we shoot in Atlanta during the Soul Train Awards and in Boston at a charity event," the rep said, noting that six episodes have been completed and the seventh is currently in post-production.
According to Access' source, only two shows were completed and two were partially finished before production wrapped at the end of September — at which point, McKnight's rep claimed, a number of LA staff members were laid off after being given the option to stay on through the show's "funding issues."
The show began airing in syndication on September 25 in 250 markets, including New York and Los Angeles.
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McKnight's rep stated that Mutiny Circle has sent out "weekly updates to the entire staff," though it was unclear if the current staff included those who have since filed complaints against the show.
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James the Giant wrote:I think in your case taking vows as an Upasaka would be more appropriate.BuddhaSoup wrote:Is it a requirement that to take anagarika ordination that one reside at the Wat, or even live in the area?
I seem to remember the pali for anagarika means Homeless One, so if you are still working or have family responsibilities or whatever, you can't really be a homeless one.
Seems to me, anyway.
James, thanks for your comment. I understand the upasaka vows are a 5 precept lay ordination, while the anagarika involves the 8 precepts, or 10, or more depending on the vows assumed. In part, I am trying to see if there is any analogy in Theravada to the Shukke Tokudo ordination in Zen? I have wanted to involve myself in some community pastoral activities ( end of life ministry, orison ministry) and it seems that without some formal ordination or "pastoral title" one would be only a guy in street clothes attending to the dying, say in a hospice or hospital. There may be something to the idea that people seeking pastoral counseling or care need or desire to meet with someone who looks, walks, and quacks like a "priest."
I apologize if these comments sound like I am some guy looking to walk about in flowing robes and a bald head....I'm not at all about the look or the forms, but am conscious that people in the community need to see that one who is doing pastoral work looks the part.
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LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – The New York Mets introduced Curtis Granderson this afternoon. Don't expect anything more from them today.
General manager Sandy Alderson said nothing was imminent, and that includes trading first baseman Ike Davis.
"He's still here,'' Alderson deadpanned. "We're here until Thursday. We'll see.''
The market is currently not hot – not even warm – for Davis.
One potential trading partner, Milwaukee, is more interested in re-signing Corey Hart than trading for Davis, figuring the devil you know is always better.
Hart and James Loney are on the market, and teams needing a first baseman tend to first look at free agents because all it would cost is money. In trading for Davis, there would also be the surrendering of talent.
"Why would they give up prospects for mediocre talent?" once baseball insider asked about Davis.
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