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Like conscious competence/known unknowns — there's a pattern emerging here.
The Implausible Impossible, the Plausible Impossible, the Plausible Possible and the Implausible Possible.
Like conscious competence/known unknowns — there's a pattern emerging here.
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[adding web actions support] took me five minutes and two lines of code.
This is what we like to hear! Nice one Laurent Eschenauer! (source)
P.S. 5 mins and 2 lines of declarative HTML! Beat that, web intents/activities
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Wondering if @lauralkalbag and @gigapup have come across @cutefight?
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I just started seeing this really fantastic girl. She's fun, smart, ambitious. It's too soon for us to be really serious, but I do like her a lot. Just one problem: She's my roommate. We're both 21, live in a house with three other people, and there's a strict 'no couples' rule when we seek roommates. Like I said, we really like each other but it's only been a few weeks, and I don't think either one of us is up for making life changes for the relationship at this point, but we both want to see where it goes. What do we do?
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Oh, you came to get down, did you? To get out yo seat and jump around? Well, you should really just sit down. It's making everyone uncomfortable.
It's common knowledge that dating or sleeping with a roommate is a terrible idea. It falls under the "Don't sh*t where you eat" advice umbrella, along with not dating coworkers. If things go sour, and odds are firmly in that favor, then you're left to deal with an awkward situation that could ultimately lead to one or both of you not having a place to live. Plus, when you date a roommate, you're not dating; you're cohabitating. You already know all about their questionable Etsy projects, that they pee on the toilet seat, and that they love blasting Don Henley at 2 a.m. There are some people who might look at this in a positive way, and say, "Well, great! I already know the worst about this person, and it's better to find out about it sooner than later." To which I would say, "No seriously. He plays 'Witchy Woman' every night!" There's a reason we don't court in reverse.
On the other hand, it's really convenient to date someone who lives down the hall. Think of the cab fare you'll save! And no one but the cat will witness your walks of shame. But what if you want some alone time? What if you want to have your bed to yourself? Not to mention what will happen when you end up squabbling over the gas bill. Feelings get hurt a lot more easily when there aren't as many boundaries in place. To that end, if you are going to attempt to screw where you poo, please at least set a lot of clearly defined boundaries about what's acceptable.
I would still seriously caution against getting involved with a roommate. Breaking up may be hard to do, but packing up is harder. Unless you legitimately think you might marry her. But you're high on an endorphin cocktail right now, so you're probably not in a state to answer that. What you should ask yourself is this: What's the worst possible thing that could come from this? If the answer doesn't abjectly horrify you, then you might be able to handle it. Also, you're young. Now is the time to make mistakes! When you're older, people just think it's sad.
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My grade school friend, Jennifer Treiber, was the daughter of our school cafeteria cook. You know how most people complain about school food? Well, I cannot relate to such nonsense. Our school cafeteria had the best food. Poor Boy sandwiches that I have never had anything compare to. Chicken Supreme that was too good to be wasted on the grade school palate. Cinnamon rolls that were so ooey and gooey they would practically melt in your mouth.
I would often go over to Jennifer's house to play and would end up staying for dinner. When I was there, her mom would always make us homemade chicken strips and french fries. It was her special meal that she would make when I was there because she knew how much I loved them. I had never had chicken strips and fries that tasted so out of this world delicious!
Birthday's were a pretty big deal in our house growing up. My mom, who was also a fantastic cook, would always let us choose what we wanted for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I would choose things like Funnel Cakes for breakfast, and my mom would happily oblige. Chocolate cake for lunch? Sure… coming right up. One year, whatever year it is when you become a major brat, my mom asked me what I wanted for my birthday dinner. When I told her that I wanted homemade chicken strips and french fries she delivered. When she placed my wish meal out on the table, I took one look at the chicken and fries and balked… "I don't want your chicken strips and fries. I want it to be like the kind Mrs Treiber makes!" Being the age of bratiness, I didn't take one single bite. Can you imagine how much my mom probably wanted to smack my smug little face? I am sure she was so proud of making exactly what she thought I wanted, and here I go and repay her by being a complete jerk.
I am sure I hurt my moms feelings (sorry mom!), but even after that show of ungratefulness my mom called Mrs Treiber to find out what her secret was. The fries were normal homemade fries, deep fried and salted to perfection. The chicken strips? Schwans. Yep… the chicken strips that I raved and raved about and stabbed my poor mom in the heart about were frozen, deep fried, Schwans chicken strips!
I cannot make homemade french fries of any kind without thinking of Jennifer, her mom and that birthday dinner. I can tell you that tonight, when I sat the fries out on the dinner table, my four year old took one look and said "I thought you said we were having french fries with dinner… I want fries like McDonalds, Mom!"
And what is it they say about paybacks? I have a feeling, I'm about to find out!
Zesty Oven Baked Fries, from Recipezaar
- 2 large baking potatoes, peeled and cut into thin strips
- 1 tablespoon grated parmesan cheese
- 1 tablespoon oil
- 1/4 teaspoon salt
- 1/4 teaspoon garlic powder
- 1/4 teaspoon paprika
- 1/4 teaspoon black pepper
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Posted: Wed 27 Jan 2010, 02:49
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How to transfer files from down computer to good computer?
I am trying to transfer files from a computer whr windows crashed. The files are good, but I can't figure out how to connect the computer running puppy linux with the other computer running Windows XP. I can't figure out how to transfer files.
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Why not use a Puppy CD in the crashed XP system, boot with
puppy pfix=ram
, then plug in a USB drive and copy the files to that?
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Connecting two computers together is tricky no matter how you do it. That's why I don't bother. It's much easier to use Makoto's solution and transfer the files to a USB drive.
If you simply must connect the computers, first boot Puppy in both. How much RAM do they have?
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If you have no problem booting Puppy on that crashed machine, the above solutions are quick and easy.
Here is my ultimate solution for transferring files from machines where not only has Windoze crashed, but the hardware may be dead: get an
external drive case
hard drive dock
. (I have both.)
Then, you only need a screwdriver, and a few minutes, to remove the drive with valuable data from the bad machine. With modern large-capacity drives, it takes less time to pull the drive than it does to copy the contents. With SATA drives, you simply unplug, copy and plug in again. With IDE drives set up as "master" devices, (the most common case,) this is also true. If the hard disk is set as a "slave" device, you may have to move a jumper on the back. (Remember to restore this to original position when you put the drive back.) Nothing else in the suspect machine has to be changed.
Most people have an aversion to going inside a machine, when you're troubleshooting you need to get over this. The advantage of this approach is that, no matter what horrible thing may be wrong with the suspect machine, any surviving data will be beyond the reach of flaky hardware or software.
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prehistoric, have you run across a case where the MBR on the disk was corrupted so that the partition data was lost? If so, how did you locate files to be saved? What I'm trying to find out is, is dd the only solution, or is there a simpler way? Is there a program that will look at a hard disk and rebuild its partition data?
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Flash wrote:
prehistoric, have you run across a case where the MBR on the disk was corrupted so that the partition data was lost? If so, how did you locate files to be saved? What I'm trying to find out is, is dd the only solution, or is there a simpler way? Is there a program that will look at a hard disk and rebuild its partition data?
when this is the problem,i.e. borked MBR,lost partitions,
is a handy cd to have, or have a look
. Just a thought
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Posted: Wed 27 Jan 2010, 14:42
Post subject: recovering partition table
If you are simply trying to recover a clobbered partition table,
this is an old mini-How-To covering the issue
. I've done this in ages past, but not recently.
The specific tool you want, if you don't have a good way to find the start of the partition, is
. Modern file systems write file system information in a number of "superblocks" spaced through the file system. This will scan for these, and reconstruct each partition table entry from the partition itself. It isn't foolproof, but I've had success with it. Here's
another article on the subject
When the hardware has been flaky, there are likely to be errors in a number of places, not just in the MBR. Part of the problem is solved if you move a good drive to an external box. If the drive itself has problems, you may still need to copy data off it using
, which will continue to copy in the presence of errors which stop dd. Here's
another tutorial
. I've been down this route, and recovered both partition tables and specific files from a damaged drive.
The drive itself became reliable again after I did a low-level format. (This no longer does what the name once implied, that now requires something like a factory jig with a laser interferometer, but, where this option is available with stand-alone tools from the manufacturer, it will rebuild structures which do not depend on the file systems seen at the OS level. These may not work under a normal OS.) I've never had to go to the extreme of freezing a disk drive, and I doubt that this still does what it once did.
Naturally, there are also commercial tools and
available, for a price.
Added: good suggestion deltaflyer. I've got one around somewhere. Our posts overlapped.
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Thanks to both of you.
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Posted: Wed 27 Jan 2010, 23:59
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Flash wrote:
Connecting two computers together is tricky no matter how you do it. That's why I don't bother.
I am going to have to get used to that!! One thing about Mac's.. they talk to one another easily!! heck we hard wire them together and "AppleTalk" away!!
So I suppose something called "Disk Warrior" is Out in this case also??
Don't know... just asking
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Who knew we had such musical (and comic) talent here at ChildFund's international office? See for yourself with our 12 Days of Christmas Remix video that highlights selections from this year's Gifts of Love & Hope catalog. A fruit tree sapling, a team of oxen, 12 head of cattle and other gifts are featured in song, all performed by ChildFund staff.
Instead of "five golden rings," we have "five garden tools," sung by Matthew Straw and Jetta Washington from our sponsor care department.
That's a traditionally memorable line in the original song (can anyone forget Miss Piggy in the Muppets' version?), and Matt and Jetta make the most of it. Matt says they drew some attention the day before the shoot while practicing in the parking lot with props. "We wanted to have the most impact," he says of their decision to sing number five.
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The video, which was filmed in ChildFund's library after work hours, was a lot of fun to make, and everyone came up with their own performance ideas, the participants say. They hope the video will encourage people to donate gifts from the catalog, which are requested by children in the 31 countries ChildFund serves. Celeste Pounds, the senior marketing specialist who impersonates an ox in the video, was involved in creating the catalog from day one.
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Plague Town (US - BD RA)
Gabe takes a quick trip to an unfortunately named Irish town...
A man and his adult daughters take a trip to Ireland to get to know their new, soon to be stepmother. Tagging along is the oldest daughter's British boyfriend. The group quickly devolves into petty arguments and becomes lost in the wilderness. After missing the bus back to the hotel, they find refuge in an abandoned car, and try to wait out the night. Unfortunately, the natives aren't particularly polite.
Plague Town isn't a very original film. The story is filled with 'wrong place/wrong time' movie clichés. Dysfunctional family unit? Check. Rural setting, complete with assumed inbred natives? Check. Creepy housing unit that should probably be left alone? Checkeroony. Director/co-writer David Gregory, who's best known for his featurettes and documentaries like Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Shocking Truth, borrows from more than TCM, though. His other influences include Night of the Living Dead, Deliverance, The Wicker Man, and most interestingly, Narciso Ibáñez Serrador's Who Can Kill a Child (which Gregory directed DVD extras for two years ago).
Gregory pushes the clichés too far in some cases, like the bitchy, slutty older sister, but others are comparatively subtle enough to work, like the new step-mother, who's actually nice, and the drunken boyfriend, who's actually pretty charming. The make it or break it character for most audiences will be the lead, Molly, who I thought was well rounded character considering the context. Fans of these types of films know that the first 30 minutes are about character establishment, and that usually the characters are going to be unlikable, so there won't be many surprises in this field. It's what comes after the first 30 minutes that makes the difference.
The plot doesn't take overtly original steps, but it's not entirely predictable. Plot might actually be the wrong word since I couldn't actually some up the last hour. Everything that happens after the blood starts pouring generally makes no sense outside of the 'these people are crazy' explanation, which is fine considering the relatively hallucinatory tone of the overall production. Gregory has some great imagery to share with horror fans, including some indelible gore shots, but his editing and lighting leave something to be desired (likely due at least partially to budgetary constraints). The gore isn't super hardcore or anything (it doesn't push beyond a solid R-rating), but the violence is memorable, and almost entirely original too. It sounds gruesome, but I'm morbidly pleased at the realistic manner the violence is treated – i.e.: buckshot and beatings usually won't kill you, at least not for a while.
Plague Town is, as mentioned, quite low budgeted, and it shows its limits in high definition. Details are pretty hazy, the dark scenes are often too dark to tell what's going on, and there's nothing particularly clean about the entire print. Edge enhanced black figures against lightened skies will likely frustrate some viewers. Jessica the bitchy sister's yellow jacket does stand apart from the hazy blues and grays, but there isn't a lot of harsh contrast or bright colouring to grab onto here, save maybe a little bit of the splattering blood, though even that is usually pretty black. The blacks are reasonably rich, and the whites aren't too grainy. The dawn and overcast day shots are the most successful and clean, though some viewers might find themselves turning up the brightness on their sets a bit. I can imagine that these are the scenes that give the Blu-ray version the advantage over the DVD. The lighting during the latter two thirds of the film is so dark I don't think the 1080p makes much of a difference.
Sometimes a low budget horror film should probably just stay low budget horror. This Blu-ray version of Plague Town utilizes the latest in technology, a DTS-HD Master Audio track, to tell a Dolby stereo story, and the effect is less than ideal. The DTS-HD does add some really impressive bass, but the surround channels are mostly left for the atmospheric music, and occasionally for other atmospheric conditions like crickets and the like. The really creepy elements, like laughing and crying children, are mostly centered. The sound design is still pretty effective, and the volume levels are set well enough to make intentions clear (even if the ooey gooey bits are too loud). The track's major problem is with lip-sync, which is ok about 89% of the time, but when it's off, it's a bit annoying. For these reasons and more I recommend sticking to the PCM stereo track, which isn't perfect, but has a warmer and more natural sound overall.
Things start with a commentary track featuring British gentleman director David Gregory, and American Joe producer Derek Curl. The star of the track is Gregory, who's brutally charming, and full of information about this and other films (unsurprisingly, he makes documentaries about movies after all). Curl is mostly along for the ride, but offers some good information about the tooth and nails process of making the film on budget. Together the team is fun, and slather praise on their co-workers without sounding insincere.
'A Visit to Plague Town' (28:30) is a chat with the cast and crew. David Gregory and co-writer John Cregan fully admit to all their cliché driven plotting, and do their best to better explain their less than intricate storyline. The usually EPK stuff fills the rest of the space, including rough behind the scenes footage, complaints about dealing with the tiny budget, and blind praise for the film. The latter half is the most entertaining, encompassing the special effects process, and working with the unprofessional children.
'The Sounds of Plague Town' (16:00) covers composer/sound designer Mark Raskin's work on the film. Raskin's work with Gregory's documentaries, along with some other aspects of his early career, is briefly covered before getting down to the brass tacks of Plague Town. Mixed in with the interviews is some behind the scenes footage from the filming, and footage of Raskin sitting at his computer with a cigarette and physically recording the music. Sound editor/foley artist Erick Jolley gets some face time in the latter part of the featurette, including some rather revolting footage of him coughing up milk.
The disc also features a Blu-ray exclusive extra – David Gregory's college film Scathed (40:00). Scathed is a student film, through and through, with all the artsy lack of narrative that usually goes along with such things, but it's pretty good considering, especially the acting. Sadly I'd rather they included a couple of Gregory's documentaries instead, which kind of makes me a jerk. The A/V quality is rough, but plenty clear to get the gist.
Plague Town isn't the most memorable motion picture, but it fits in nicely with a couple of other Euro-horror flicks that met with pretty good reviews including Kim Chapiron's Sheitan, Xavier Gens' Frontier(s), and Fabrice Du Welz's Calvaire. It's not actually a European film, but it has a pretty authentic feel, and will disturb most of the right people.
Sorry there aren't any screencaps. I still can't pull them off of Blu-rays, and the people at Dark Sky haven't supplied me with any yet.
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They were giving out some free posters for this at the Alamo Drafthouse in Austin. I was working when they showed a director screening later that week though. I'll probably give this one a rent on a rainy day. Thanks for the review.
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i couldnt find this DVD anywhere... i must try amazon...
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the eyes have it....
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Disc Details
Release Date: 12th May 2009
Discs: 1
Disc Type: Blu-ray Disc
RCE: No
Video: NTSC
Aspect: 1.78:1
Anamorphic: No
Colour: Yes
Audio: DTS-HD Master 5.1 English, PCM 2.0 English
Subtitles: English SDH, French, Spanish
Extras: Director/Producer Commentary, A Visit to Plague Town, The Sounds of Plague Town, 'Scathed', Trailer
Easter Egg: No
Feature Details
Director: David Gregory
Cast: David Lombard, Lindsay Goranson, Erica Rhodes, Josslyn DeCrosta, James Warke
Genre: Horror
Length: 85 minutes
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Director Earl Nettnin (Desert Rats) called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and a moment of silence for the sick and departed was observed. Two guests Paul & Angela Hauf were present, they were from a VW club and found out they were not the right meeting, however, since they own a 4X4 they decided to stay for our meeting.
A motion was made by Kelda Hagemeier (Shindig Wheelers) seconded by Ed Massey (Sand Commandos and Hurtin Units) that we accept the November minutes as printed, motion passed.
The Treasurers report was presented by Sande Nettnin (Desert Rats). Sande handed out a written report; however, she forgot to list a donation of an electronic transfer from Region 4 to the Trail Jamborees checking account. Sande will add this to the report and print a new one and include the new one in the file. Also the new revised report will be handed out at the next Region 4 meeting. The Jr. Jeepers advisor Gloria Joralemon (Shindig Wheelers) presented a written report of their funds; she has opened a savings account for them now so they can be in charge of their funds.
COMP REPORT: This coming weekend there is a Monster Truck Show in the Tacoma Dome January 13 15 with a barrel racing demo by the PNW.
MEMBERSHIP: No new clubs at this time. Since we have a new membership program on the PNWs web site, information didnt get sent out to the clubs regarding membership renewal in November. We have been told that for this year only late fees would not occur until the 31st of March. However, dues must be paid before Winter Convention to allow your delegates to vote at Winter Convention. This new program is still a work in progress so we ask your patience.
PNW WEB Site: covered under the membership report. Pam Remley said she has created a Face Book page for Region 4 because she couldnt get on the Forum for the PNWs web site. The page is PNW4WDA Region 4 and Pam Remley and Kelda Hagemeier are the administrators for it.
CLUB POWER/WE DID IT: Chairman Gary Harting (Desert Rats) said he had talked with Kathy Greenwood (PNWs Club Power/We Did It Chairman & Off Road Animals) she said new forms will be coming at Winter Convention. If your club has a work party or an event please turn in your forms so the hours can be counted.
TRAIL JAMBOREE: Co-Chairmen Sid & Kelda Hagemeier (Shindig Wheelers) reported they are working on making sure the on line registration for Trail Jamboree is going to work this year. They are trying to come up with a theme for the t-shirts for this years event. Materials have been prepared for the packets that are handed out to the hosting clubs and they will be contacted soon. Packets will be either mailed out or handed out at Winter Convention to the hosting clubs. Registration begins February 20, 2012 starting at 8 AM. Registration is limited to 100 participants; if you dont get in be sure to sign up on the waiting list. We always have cancelations. Information can be found on the PNWs web site as well as Tri-Power. Cost for participants is $185 this includes the driver, one passenger, 4 nights camping, 3 dinners, breakfast on Sunday morning; every packet comes with 2 raffle tickets one is a door prize the other is a major sponsor item. We are working on getting more sponsors, Sid appointed a sponsor chairman and he will be contacting him soon to see how things are going.
JUNIOR JEEPERS: Advisor Gloria Joralemon (Shindig Wheelers) said they do have a web site, but she didnt now what it was, she will get it to us so we can print it in the minutes. Clay Graham (Yakima Kittitas Forest Watch) said he thought it was a Face Book account as thats where he had seen it. They now have a savings account. Their next event probably will be the Jim Sprick Park clean-up in April.
PR: Kelda Hagemeier (Shindig Wheelers) said she had nothing to report.
TWIG meeting is going on as we speak. We will try to get information out to everyone as it comes in; you may be asked to write letters in regards to the closing of our trails etc.
Travel Management Plan is coming up, if your trail is not on the map its going to be closed. A final environmental impact statement and record of decision will be coming on in the spring of 2012; and they hope to have a motor vehicle use map in the fall of 2012.
Forest Plan Revision is coming up; public comments will be accepted sometime this spring.
BLM (Bureau of Land Management) has a comment period for their draft with a due date of February 23, 2012. This is on the Eastern Washington San Juan Resource Management Plan.
BRC (Blue Ribbon Coalition) alert on the Sage Grouse found in 10 western states seems to warrant protection under the Endangered Species Act. They are found in a very small area of Washington State.
Juniper Dunes has a county road now. They have had issues with an irrigation pipe line that had to be redesigned. The owners seem to be OK with the redesign of the road and they hope to have the work completed next year. However, the No Trespassing sign is still up. The County has got a Humvee to patrol the area in; should be interesting.
Blewett Pass Sno-Park expansion in the Cle Elum Ranger District is in the planning stages. Also the proposed re-route of the Bean Creek Hiking Trail.
Methow Valley Ranger District is proposing to revise the livestock grazing allotment management plans for the Boulder, Goat and Wolf allotments.
Bald Mountain Rock Creek/Bald Maintain phase 3 acquisition is complete.
Grants: The deadline for when Recreation Conservation Fund (RCFB) Grants are due has been changed. Complete information will be posted on their web site www.roc.wa.gov. in January. We refer to this as NOVA; Jim Putman (The Hombres) has been appointed to this committee. Jim takes the position that was vacated by Arlene Brooks (Green River Valley Jeepers) whose term ended.
The Oregon State Land matters meeting will be January 14, 2012 at Warn Industries in Milwaukie, OR.
Flood Repair projects: Coming up this year the 1808 road, 1601, 3100 series of roads on the Cle Elum side up to Horse Camp will be worked on this year; next year the 1700 road, 1501 access to the Little Rattlesnake the short way, 1901 and 3111 to 3115 and the 3300 roads.
Pileup Creek on the 1900 road has been approved for a Culvert Replacement Project; work will take place sometime during July 15 August 16.
Wenas meeting was reported on by Clay Graham (Yakima Kittitas Forest Watch). Clay said they are looking to hire another Game Warden and they had lots of discussion on the Discover Pass.
Ahtanum State Forest Sno-Park is now called a Winter Recreation Area. DNR has taken over the Sno-Park areas, they are no longer called Sno-Park areas and you have to have a Discover Pass to use the parking area. Plans are in the works to build a non-motorized trail. DNR is also looking for volunteers for their forest watch program; a class is scheduled for next month if enough interest is there; so if you are interested see Clay he has registration forms.
Beverly Dunes nothing new to report at this time.
It was reported that you have to have a Discover Pass to go and see the Elk Feeding station.
Nominations were opened again for Region 4 officers. The following were nominated at the November Region meeting: Region 4 Director Earl Nettnin; Vice Director Ed Massey; Secretary/Treasurer Sande Nettnin; Lead Land Matters Dale Neuman; PR Kelda Hagemeier. There were no new nominations for Region Director, Vice-Director, Secretary/Treasurer, and Lead Land Matters. Kelda withdrew her nomination for PR. Clay Graham was nominated for PR Chairman. A motion was made by Ed Massey seconded by Randy Hayes that we cast a unanimous ballot for Earl, Ed, Sande, Dale and Clay for the officers for Region 4 for 2012, motion passed.
The WA State meetings were canceled for this year. Information will be discussed at the state caucus during Winter Convention. None of our land coordinators have heard from our WA ST Executive Director regarding a land use meeting, so Earl asked that they submit a report to him for the areas they handle if they are not planning to attend Winter Convention and he will read it during the state caucus in February at Winter Convention.
PUAM: Chairman Pam Remley said she was looking for help with the following: the Saturday night pot-luck- Desert Rats; Kids- Gloria Joralemon; corn shucking; door prizes, breakfast Sunday morning; trail cleaning assignments; t-shirt sales; and announcing. Lots of discussion followed; please let Pam know how you can help. We are planning to have a schedule that will be handed out when you sign in at Pick Up A Mountain. Discussion followed on having some seed money available to Pam for PUAM. Sid Hagemeier made a motion seconded by Randy Hayes that we allocate funds in the amount of $1000 to Pam for PUAM, motion passed. Pam will keep receipts and turn them in to the Treasurer. The
secretary read a note of thanks to Region 4 from Pam for all the help with last years PUAM.
If you are holding an event and need the PNW Insurance you must get your information to Carol Jensen our PNW Insurance person by the end of January.
Director Earl Nettnin reminded everyone that Olympia is in session so BEWARE.
We have a speaker for Winter Convention this year and its WA Land Commissioner Peter Goldmark.
Club Reports were dispensed with because time ran out.
Door Prize was won by Gary Harting.
Meeting adjourned at 9:05 PM
Respectfully Submitted,
Sande Nettnin
Winter Convention February 10, 11 & 12, 2012 in Vancouver, WA at the Heathman Lodge, advanced orders for dinner and t-shirts is January 23rd. When you make your reservation at the Heathman Lodge tell them you are with the PNW so you will get your special room rate.
The Next meeting dates for Region 4 will be:
February 14, 7:30 PM at Doug Conners shop in Pasco, WA
March 13, 7:30 PM at Liberty Off Road in Moses Lake, WA
Sande Nettnin
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Never been into Phish, sounds like good music and that looks like a great place to drop some 'cid! Last time I did that was at the Rush concert in '96, and the visuals from the laser light and computer animation stage show were just incredible. I would have been in trip Heaven with all those glow sticks!


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This week on the Skirted Roundtable we welcome Christina Strutt, the founder and head designer of Cabbages and Roses, an English based fabric, clothing, and home decor company. As the name implies, Cabbages and Roses has a romantic look, similar to Laura Ashley and Rachel Ashwell. Their fabrics are checks and stripes, roses and chintz, all in wonderful colors. Strutt has also written many books, and her most recent, At Home With Country, was just released. In her new book, she features many houses, most in the United States, outfitted with Cabbages and Roses fabrics. Besides all the stateside houses, she also includes her own wonderful house in Bath. Another English house, really a historic castle near Bath, featured in the book is Hanham Court. Hanham Court is the country estate of the famous garden designing couple – Isabel and Julian Bannerman. The Bannermans have designed gardens for such elites as The Prince of Wales at Highgrove, Lord Rothschild at Waddesdon Manor, the Duke and Duchess of Norfolk, Sir Andrew Lloyd Webb, John Paul Getty II at Wormesley, and the list goes on and on. They also won the competition to design the British Memorial Garden at Ground Zero in New York City.
I have been planning to do a blog post about the Bannermans for over a year now, so having Christina Strutt on the Skirted Roundtable discussing her new book with its chapter on Hanham Court gave me the incentive to finally tell their story!
The Bannermans live at Hanham Court with their three sons. The gypsy caravan they keep at Hanham Court is often photographed.
The historic house, Hanham Court, located between Bath and Bristol, started life in the 11th century and has been added onto a multitude of times. The Bannermans have lived there for 15 years, spending much money and effort on recreating the lush gardens which were bare when they arrived. Besides running their thriving garden design business, the Bannermans have turned Hanham Court into a tourist destination. It is open for daily tours, overnight visits and is a popular party venue. Since there is also a chapel, a mediaeval abbey, connected to the house, many weddings are booked here too. Throughout their residence, the Bannermans have created many romantic gardens, secret walkways with gates, along with ponds, fountains, and a pool. Almost every historical era in design is represented on the estate. The barn dates from Norman times, the gables and gatehouse are Tudor, the main building is Elizabethan, there are Georgian era additions and an Arts and Crafts Kitchen wing and loggia added in the early 1900s. In the 19th century there was a regothification to the exterior and interior.
An aerial shot of the large estate showing how many different buildings make up Hanham Court.
Inside the estate, the rooms are the very definition of English Country Manor cluttered style. Every wall, table, and shelf is jammed full with prints, books, papers, and knickknacks. The interiors are very, very casual and quite messy. Surprisingly, this past April, Christie's held a large sale of the Bannerman's many collections and possessions. A total of 300 items went up on auction. The Bannermans said the sale was needed to provide funds in order to focus their attentions to the gardens. Seeing photographs from their gardens, it's hard to imagine what else it could possibly need, but they said "it is time for surprises in the garden…we have been aching to get on with." The sale brought in around $1,600,000 – much higher than estimated. To be able to sell over 300 items from one's house and still have enough left over to furnish a castle is proof of the Bannerman's collecting bug. It will be interesting to see what changes will be made to both the inside and the outside of Hanham Court now that they have done the spring cleaning to end all spring cleanings.
Hanham Court shown in 1900. You can see how bare the gardens were.
Upon arriving on the estate, a glimpse of the house seen through the flowering shrubs. Beautiful stone wall.
The main section of the estate with its round tower.
A view of the English styled gardens.
Entering the estate through its ornamental iron gate.
The walkway flanked with topiaries leads to the front door.
Tulips planted in a large tub. The wisteria climbs over the front side of the estate.
Close up of the terrace in front of the round tower.
The old coach door, opens unto the green lawn, shown below.
A view from inside of the vast lawn with gardens on each side. The swimming pool is hidden behind the gardens on the left side of the lawn.
Same view in spring. To the very right is the top of an ornamental gate on the property (shown below.)
The wooden ornamental gate to the right of the lawn.
The swimming pool – so pretty!
The same view in the dead of winter.
Another walkway through an arched stone gate.
The back of the house with its arched loggia where wedding receptions take place and plants are sold to tourists visiting the gardens.
Inside the house – the grand staircase is lined with the best of the Bannerman's oil paintings.
This photograph is from Christina Strutts' book, At Home With Country. The pillow on the chair is from the new Cabbages and Roses fabric line in blacks and grays and whites (my favorite!)
Centuries old staircase – amazing! I assume this is in the round tower, but I'm not sure.
The stone floor hallway leads off the dining room, kitchen stairs, grand hall staircase, and entrance hall. The dining room is to the left.
The dining hall was once dark before a former owner lightened the wood. The Bannermans recently limewashed the wood.
A close up of the dining hall. Notice the old stone flag floor.
Looking the other way at the fireplace in the dining room. Towards the door – you can see the main staircase shown before. The round medallion above the fireplace was sold at the Christie's auction.
A main sitting room with green wallpaper, blue wood paneling, and seagrass.
A closeup of the cluttered fireplace mantel. This photograph comes from Strutt's At Home With Country. The framed intaglios were sold in the Christies auction. OK – who wants to just run their arm over the mantel and knock all those vases off????? Me first!
This photograph is from At Home With Country. The chair and pillows are covered in Cabbages and Roses fabric.
The same chair went up for auction – the chair dates from 1815 and sold for $2,884. I would have to make a new seat cushion!!!
The red library is one of the most used rooms in the castle. The bookcase and fireplace are gothick styled. The bookcases were sold at auction as were the two chairs and the center table. I wonder what the room will look like after it is redone.
Looking back out the windows in the red library. The fireplace mantel is amazing.
From Strutt's At Home With Country. Here the red library looks deep pink, ,which is the true color. The chair wears Cabbages and Roses fabric. Through the door is the stone hallway off the main staircase shown before.
Another photo from At Home With Country. The small bookcase in the corner is shown below at auction:
The small bookcase from 1860 went for $4,999.
The large Irish bookcase from 1820 sold for over $18,000.
The library's 1870 center table sold for over $9,000. Even more from the library was sold at auction. I wonder where they will store their books now?
The kitchen wing was added during the Arts and Crafts Movement in the early 1900s. I love the huge window.
Here is a closeup picture of the kitchen. The range is on the back wall set inside a mantel. Notice the barn style door on the right leading outside.
A guest room photographed for the book At Home With Country. All the fabrics are Cabbages and Roses.
The master bedroom is painted turquoise and features a bed made from antique pelmets. Love this so much!!!
The master bedroom. The chest on the stand sold at auction, too, as did the chairs in the room.
Aw, I love this! The above picture of the master bedroom has been on the cover of a magazine before. The sofa "makes" the room! Why sell it for $6,700? I guess they needed that money too! What a shame.
The late 17th century cabinet sold for over $16,000. Now, that's worth it to sell even though I love this piece in the bedroom too.
One of the son's bedroom has William and Morris wallpaper in it, along with a fabulous canopy bed.
A photograph from a recent wedding held at Hanham Court. They matched with his gold pants and tie and her gold stripe trim at the hem of her dress.
I hope you've enjoyed this visit to Hanham Court. To visit the Christie's web site for the Hanham Court auction, go HERE. To visit Hanham Court and the Bannerman's Garden Design web site, go HERE.
To order the book At Home With Country, go HERE.
The picture above is from Christina Strutt's home in Bath, England, showing the red and pink fabric line from Cabbages and Roses.
To visit Cabbages and Roses web site, go HERE. And please, don't forget to listen to Christina Strutt's interview on The Skirted Roundtable, HERE. Tonight, we will be interviewing Bobby McAlpine. Wish me luck!!!!


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School Information1600 Maple Street
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Accrediting Agency: Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities
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Locale: City: Small
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Accrediting Agency: Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities
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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - In the September 19 U.S. Track & Field and Cross Country Coaches Association (USTFCCCA) poll, the MIT women's team was ranked first in the nation for Division III programs, ahead of Washington and Middlebury.
Just a week ago, the Engineers were in the No. 5 position, but they jumped to the top of the list for the second week of polling after an impressive showing at the UMass-Dartmouth Invitational this past weekend. This is the first time the women's team has been ranked No. 1 in the nation.
The men's cross country team also made it onto the list for the first time this season in the No. 35 spot.
Both teams will be heading to Williamstown, Mass. for the Purple Valley Classic on Saturday, Sept. 22, and the next USTFCCCA poll will be on Sept. 26.


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Moonlight wrote:Yep I saw it when it first came out. You know people confess to crimes they did not commit all the time. That one kid you talked about, he was held for many, many hours and urged to confess. He was told it would all be over with if he just confessed so he did. Many parts of the confession were wrong. Some things he said they did, the autopsy did not match up with. That is why they are free. The others, they were just teenagers stupid kids who suddenly had the worlds attention and they were messed up enough to play a part.
The stepfather of one of the boys is now strongly suspected as the person who killed the children. The guy they had shooting the guns pretending things he was shooting was those kids.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
SlyTF1 wrote:Well that's disturbing...
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Dead Metal wrote:Dude, current evidence points to them being innocent.
So they weren't exactly "normal", so what, that doesn't make them guilty for that crime, so far it seems the only evidence against them is that they where "weird".
Also, interrogations for murder crimes are way more extreme and hardcore than "eating all the cookies".
Loads of innocent people have admitted to murder and other high profile crimes just to finally have it over with, just to then be proven innocent in court.
Dead Metal wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Well that's disturbing...
SlyTF1 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Well that's disturbing...
Ah, the song about the murder was made by Disturbed. How ironic.
decepta-scott wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Well that's disturbing...
Ah, the song about the murder was made by Disturbed. How ironic.
It is isnt it? I didnt know what he posted as the cpu Im using is a p.o.s but Im guessing it was a pic of the band that sant the song three.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
decepta-scott wrote:".........Compassionate reader you simply recycle the same crap over and over. You say things like those murderers were convicted on others "false" confessions when in fact none of those people have said they were lying."
All three of the falsely convicted men said that they were innocent when they accepted the Alford plea. I'm not sure who you meant when you said "those people" but the mother of one of the softball girls has since said that Damien was not being serious when he made the statement at the ball park. Michael Carson, the jailhouse snitch who claimed that Jason "confessed" to him in the juvenile hall, has said in the most recent documentary "West of Mempbis" that he was high on LSD at the time and didn't know what he was saying while employees at the juvenile hall have said that Jason and Michael weren't ever alone together long enough for the conversation to have taken place. Joyce Cureton, the supervisor at the juvenile hall at the time, testified at the Rule 37 hearing that she was told to be unavailable to testify for the defense. Jessie has said that what he said was what the police told him to say. If you are referring to any other "people" than those, please tell me.
"There are plenty of senarios where that hair could have been transfered to the other child via terrys own child. For you to go on about all the elaborate set ups and off the wall ways those murderers are innocent and then say that theres no possible way a child could have a hair from his friends father passed to any part of his body is just silly."
I disagree. There aren't "plenty of senarios" (sic) to explain the presence of Hobbs' hair in the ligature of Michael Moore. There are only two scenarios that would explain that - either Hobbs left the hair himself or it was secondary transfer. Since Hobbs claims that he didn't see any of the boys on May 5th, secondary transfer is less likely, IMO, than Hobbs leaving the hair himself because we know that Hobbs is a proven liar. The Jacoby hair presents an even more unusual situation. The boys were not with Jacoby at any point during May 5th. Jacoby claims that he was never near the discovery ditch, and he also claims that Hobbs was at his house "playing guitars" early that evening. So, again there are two possibilities. If Jacoby is lying, he could have left the hair when he went to the discovery ditch. Or, Hobbs could have picked up the hair when he was with Jacoby and left it at the discovery ditch himself. That's it. The important thing here that you seem to be missing is how these two hairs got to the discovery ditch if the teenagers were the murderers, and, even more important, why were none of the teenagers' hairs at the scene? Was the water magic in that it only washed away the teens' hairs while leaving the hairs of two innocent men? I find that highly unlikely.
"You say your hubby got that satanic book in the sixties yeah? That would put you right at the murderers age at the time they killed those babies yes? Thought so. You Didnt read a satanic bible that your ol man brought in the house? I cant prove other wise but I submit that you didnt have a problem with it either and thusly have an open mind to it at very least. I believe that you did indulge that lifestyle while at the murderers age possibly took guff for it and that is why you blindly defend those murderers."
First, I didn't read the Satanic Bible because my husband and I weren't married (or even living together) at the time he had the book. Second, yes, at the time he got the book, we would have been about the age of the teens. Guess what? WE NEVER KILLED ANYONE! The fact that a person owns a certain book does not make him/her a murderer. THAT WAS MY POINT! Teenagers (and young adults) often have unusual tastes and buy and read unusual things. It's part of the maturing process.
"Please stop acting like it is perfectly normal for teens to go about admitting to murderers. To quote the mighty megatron Shock value my boran compressor."
I didn't say it was "perfectly normal" for teens to "go about admitting to murderers (sic)." My experience with teenagers has shown me that they often make outrageous threats against family and/or peers, and they VERY RARELY carry out such threats. And, Damien never threatened the victims. However, false confessions, especially by teenagers or mentally challenged persons (and Jessie was both) are far from rare. I don't care whether you personally would admit to a murder that you didn't commit. I don't think I would, either. However, that doesn't mean that false confessions never occur.
"Howard stern in known for his shock value. He is perhaps one of the most shocking people in the u.s.He is hated for the shocking things he has said for decades now and NEVER ONCE has he had to say he murdered three babies."
So what? Again, that doesn't mean that false confessions never occur. Please research the Norfolk Four as one example.
"You cant tell me you dont see how silly this all sounds. Good god woman."
Obviously, I don't think that my scenario sounds "silly" or I wouldn't put it forth. I'm not in the habit of saying "silly" things on Internet boards. Are you?
"That murderer echols was clearly NOT playing when he said that he loved to be thought of as a bogy man and to have children fear for their lives when thinking of him. He wasnt saying that for shock. Im sorry that YOU cannot see that, although Id bet that you actually can see it despite what you say."
Damien was being sarcastic when he made the "boogeyman" statement. It's just another example of a teen saying something for shock value. Again, that sort of thing happens all the time. I'm sorry that you can't see it.
"Listen up. Dont presume to act as if you know how it feels to loose someone in a brutal manor. Terry has shown no weird behavior. He also never said that people were showing too much sympathy. What he said was that people wouldnt leave him alone and that his wife was having an awful time getting over their sons death. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you intentionally misquote people to further your own agenda?"
I didn't quote Terry. Nor did you. He said that Pam couldn't "just get over" Stevie's death and he couldn't take it anymore. I advise you to watch the Pasdar deposition. As to me having never lost someone in a brutal manner, you're wrong. I have.
"When my youngest sister was raped and murdered I too dealt with it by trying to forget it completely. It is infact a common safety mechanism. I was lucky enough to not have lived in a small town where everyone weather they knew you or not would come up and talk your ear off about it. Same thing being said over and over and over and over again by everyone around you. Then to go home and have your wife on the floor drowning in tears and meloncholy. Id say he acted about as normal as expected given the circumstances.....How dare you even comment on that. You know shite lady."
When my 13-year-old cousin was killed, I did live in a small town. Everyone talked about it and asked me questions, and I was a child myself at the time - I was ten. My cousin's parents had trouble dealing with everything, but my uncle didn't leave my aunt two weeks later because she was still dealing with the grief. He stood by her and tried to help her cope. The whole family did. As an adult, when I was attacked and almost raped in the laundry room, my husband helped me deal with that situation; he didn't leave me two weeks later because I still needed to talk it out. And, when I was AGAIN sexually assaulted a few years later outside our apartment, my husband was there for me and didn't expect me to "just get over it" in two weeks. Don't presume to know my experiences, either. Yes, trying to forget is, for many, a common defense mechanism. However, it doesn't work for everyone, and for those who can't (or don't) use it, the others around them must allow them to grieve in their own way. Trying to force them to "get over" the situation will only make the grieving process longer and more painful for all concerned.
"You are aware that those murderers took an alford plea correct? That means that they agree that the state DOSE INFACT HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO CONVICT THEM.....but they still maintain they are innocent. Why do that and be forever labeled a baby killer? Why not take it to trial and be completely exhonerated if theres soooo much evidence to show their innocence? Why be on probation for decades if it would be an easy win?"
The Alford Plea said that the State had enough evidence that they COULD (not would) be convicted if they went to trial. Obviously, since they were already convicted, they knew that another kangaroo court could well convict them on the same bogus evidence. I don't think that another jury would have convicted them primarily because the whole Satanic panic thing is passe now. Scott Ellington didn't believe that another jury would find them guilty either, at least according to his interview published in a December, 2011, Gentlemens' Quarterly article. However, since these men had served over eighteen years in prison for murders that they didn't commit, I totally understand why they wouldn't want to trust the same justice (or should I say injustice) system that had already unjustly convicted them to get it right this time? And, they are not on probation. They have a ten year suspended sentence. They have no travel restrictions and they do not have to periodically report to a parole or probation officer. Please get your facts straight.
"OOOOH I know. Because those bumpkins in memphis want all "weird teens" put behiend bars and ultimately exicuted so they didnt want to gamble right? GET REAL!!"
The "bumpkins in Memphis," which is in Tennessee, don't have anything to do with a crime in West Memphis, Arkansas. Small town justice can often go astray. This case is one example of such. The McMartin preschool trials is another. The Salem witch trials are yet another. There are a plethora of examples of such a situation, if you just investigate. Would you gamble with your life?
"You have angered me now lady. I get mad when a clearly bias person defends baby killers because they see themself in them. Human nature dictates that anyone with a shred of a soul would show their emotions when talking to someone defending killers."
I'm sorry that you are angered. However, you, too, have a bias in this situation, as the previous poster mentioned. I don't think that I am "defending killers." I think that I am seeking justice for falsely convicted men.
"Once again Id thank you to cease saying that I am not educated on this case as I am. Thus far Im pretty sure the only thing youve corrected me on were the ages of the children killed and the shoelace. Hardly worth mentioning. My opinion should be taken every bit as serious as yours."
I never said that you didn't have the right to your opinion. You have said that you haven't read all of the case documents available at Callahan's. IMO, someone who has read those documents (as I have) is more educated on the case than someone who has not. That's all I said. I'm not saying that you haven't read anything. I'm saying that you haven't read everything, or at least, by your own admission, you haven't read the case documents readily available to anyone who wants to educate him/herself on the case.
"Thank you."
So what? Again, that doesn't mean that false confessions never occur. Please research the Norfolk Four as one example.[/QUOTE]
Admitting to the murder of three babies, bragging about it afterwards,knowing intimate details of the crime scene(reguardless of weather he confused laces with rope and got times wrong) are a FAR CRY from making typical teenage threats and boasts.
Threatning to get a tatto, running away, saying you are a black belt at karate and that you beat up five guys are the kinds of outraegous things teens make. NOT what those murderers said.
They say things to make themselves look cool or tough. To get people to think well of them. Bragging about killing three babies and saying they were going to do it again, Saying you love to be thought of as a boggy man by children AFTER you have been sentenced to death and the game is over do not qualify as a teens attempt at gaining popularity or shocking someone. GET REAL.
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In recent years the marine industry has battened down its hatches in an effort to survive the economic storm.
Beach Carolina Magazine reported that depressed housing prices, stock prices and employment levels placed the economies of the world in the doldrums. Elections, the Euro-crisis, taxation, healthcare, the fiscal cliff, created negative attitudes, and all impacted consumer confidence. The boat and yacht business was no exception. By mid-2008, potential boat-buyers seemed to ban together with a common attitude of "Why buy now, when tomorrow you can buy cheaper?"
But times are changing and so is the public psyche. The industry is starting to realize strong economic data, and evidence of a domestic growth environment. We see signs of the most optimistic times for the US boating industry since 2008. Overall boat sales rose 10% in 2012 according to the National Marine Manufacturers Association's recent report. Today's activity shows every indication of continued substantial improvement in 2013 & 2014.
"We are experiencing increased activity in listings and sales, which, with the rising employment we see in the marine industry, are very encouraging signs to those of us at MYB," said Michael Hannon, CEO of Merritt Yacht Brokers, Inc.
New brokerage sales in 2012 were up 2% in boat value and up 3% in sales volume over the previous year. Year-over-year January 2013, sales were higher than 2012. Pre-owned boat sale volumes increased by 1%, while at the same time average resale values increased at a rate greater than 20%.
Consumer borrowing in January added $16.2 billion to a total of $2.8 trillion – over 200,000 jobs were created in each month from November through January. The Dow Jones Industrial Average reached an all time high of 14,413 on March 8. Worldwide share prices exceeded their peak of mid June 2008. Surging stock prices, mending housing and labor markets as well as a booming energy sector are among the tailwinds propelling the U.S. economy. The mix of new jobs is also changing, as we create higher paying jobs.
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When we arrived at the regional inaugural ball in Randallstown, Maryland, there were tables and tables of people of all ages in formal gowns and tuxedos. We were seated at a table called Harvard University, although we were suppose to be at another table called Columbia University. These tables were named after the two universities that Barack Obama attended. Every table in the room was named after some significant location or place in the new President's life.
The program consisted of a warm welcome by the hostess, a prayer by a local minister to bless the food, and jazz music by a local band. After dinner, there was a saxophone tribute to President Obama by a woman from Indiana and an inspirational message by a city official. The attendees were asked to sing all three verses of "Lift Every Voice and Sing." We ended with a champagne toast (apple cider for all the kids).
After the program, we danced the Electric Slide and Cupid Shuffle. Many of the attendees even had the opportunity to take a picture with the President himself---as a cardboard cutout. Although some of the Balls in Washington, D.C., were visited by President Obama, we had a special appearance by Michael Jackson. Well, his name was Rico Michael Jackson and he danced and lipsynched to several Jackson hits. He put on the white glove, added the red jacket and received the same kind of screams from the crowd as if he were he real Jackson. I had the chance to ask him a few questions about his career after his performance. He told me he had been impersonating Michael Jackson for 20 years.
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As for high-altitude training in Mammoth, Dave McCoy had it down years ago.
Intensely interested in the interplay between high-altitude Mammoth (8,000-11,000 feet) and lower altitude Bishop (4,000 feet), McCoy had asked for a report on the subject from MMSA's John Armstrong.
He got it two years ago, and in the whatever-goes-around-comes-around department, Armstrong presented the report at Wednesday's final topic-related RecStrats workshop at the Community Center.
The workshop had to do with establishing Mammoth as a high-altitude training Mecca.
"It's about programs and facilities, working with the groups together, coordination, and synergy," said town Recreation Director Stuart Brown.
"It's not just about the big-ticket items, but the low-hanging fruit is really important.
"That's the purpose of RecStrats, to talk common subjects and common goals in track, running and programming. Is there is a municipal function? Private sector or groups? Local non-profits?"
The thing is, McCoy and Armstrong had this more or less figured out years ago.
"Dave has always felt this way, and he still wants to see this happen for both Mammoth and Bishop," Armstrong said.
In Armstrong's report to McCoy, the vision statement was "to become a world-class international high-altitude training center" – a vision that is remarkably similar to the overall RecStrats (Recreation Strategies) vision statement.
The mission, in Armstrong's report, is, "To fulfill the needs of national and international sports teams by providing seamless integration of services and facilities in the Mammoth area."
Sound familiar?
The twist in the Armstrong Report is that it integrates Bishop in an important way.
"Living at altitude and training at a lower altitude produce significant and measurable gains in athletic performance [for endurance athletes like runners and cyclists]," Armstrong wrote.
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A coach for the Austrian Ski Team told Armstrong recently that if the team ever comes back to Mammoth to train, the skiers would train in Mammoth but sleep in Bishop to recover.
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"Since the coordination of these entities has not yet occurred, it will be necessary for a catalyst to be introduced in the form of an individual, company or group of people to cause the pooling and coordination of resources to occur."
Armstrong attended Wednesday's RecStrats "High-Altitude" meeting. For him, it must have seemed like he was going around the block, arriving right back where he started, years ago.


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Ace songs by artists you previously thought were square
I don't use the word square in real life, honest.
But I think I might've had Chicago and Kansas mixed up??
there's a mad freeform guitar feedback track on the same album as well!
ive really started to like squeeze
up thee junction and take me im yours in particular
Pulling Mussels (From A Shell) and Another Nail In My Heart
are personal favourites.
<3 Squeeze.
i don't have any suggestions but this is immense!
bloody hell, listening to the freeform guitar track now. pretty mad stuff
noise epics will be turning up on Spandau Ballet albums or something next
This was Chicago as 'Chicago Transit Authority'
back before their stellar lead guitarist Terry Kath died and they went all AOR. And the whole thing (minus a couple of tedious tracks) is worthwhile.
Complete inspiration for Keiji Haino-related Japanoise guitarist Masayuki Takayanagi, incidentally.
have you heard 'Hell Yeah' by Neil Diamond
if not here it is
you will like it. Hell yeah you will
I do like.
Sounds remarkably like Nick Cave. Stop making me like Neil Diamond.
Rod Stewart - You're My Girl
RS had some jams, I'm saying it.
I always thought Glen Campbell was a bit square...
...until I heard Wichita Lineman which is an immense song. (Someone post a link below as this chickenshit excuse for technology won't do it.)
- JaguarPirate and emmettcruddas this'd this
so's highwayman and galveston
i really want to get into glen campbell a bit more, i bought a couple of records but there's a lot of shit along with a few diamonds.theShipment this'd this
galveston is a great tune
unsuspectingly grim
used to love Sultans of Swing as a kid
Started to hate it as soon as I got into indie music, then really what a fool I had been. Some of the best guitar tone ever
played that solo for my gcse music practical
still square though imho
anything off that debut self-titled record is great
before the 80's and the headbands and synthesisers etc kicked in.
Beautifully produced album, guitar tone is sooo good
Dire Straits first 4 albums are
straight up fantastic, give or take a couple of duff tunes.
- aactv, JaguarPirate, yuggy, and El_Goodo this'd this
Their best song
IMHO.....Sometiiiiimees whenIlookdeepinyoureyesIswearIcanseeyour souuuuullllllllllllll!milkypirate and JaguarPirate this'd this
songs not just bands
It's Going To Take Some Time This Time
by The Carpenters
We could lump a whole load of 70s rock stuff into this category, no?
ZZ Top is my most shameful one. I used to think they were awful and then the light fell upon me, and 'lo, I needed Cheap Sunglasses.theShipment, blimeycharlie, and watsona7 this'd this
I love how one song can send you down a rabbit hole
that opens your mind up to so much greatness. The ZZ Top song that did it for me was Brown Sugar off their first album. That led me later to Cheap Sunglasses and so many other great songs/albums by them. Big fan of the band now, even some of the cheesy 80s-90s stuff.
To be honest, since my ZZ Top discovery I've been going back on loads of artists I had previously ignored. As a result I've been going backwards a lot more than keeping up with current stuff.Mynci2000 this'd this
Thinking back I think it might've been Precious And Grace
That turned me.
Robert Palmer - Looking For Clues
Really love the weird breakdown in the chorus, the xylophone chorus and this totally bonkers video.
xylophone chorus?
i meant xylophone solo... or marimba - i'm never too sure which is which.
Well, you say Kansas like it's a bad thing,
but have you heard Kansas as covered by a ten year old Japanese girl on an electric organ?
Fucking righteous.
Pretty much most of ELO's output between
Eldorado and Secret Messages. Love it.
Phil Collins - Easy Lover
seriously, right, that song is an absolute fucking beast.sunstroke_house and SCROTUM this'd this
fuck yeah
This thread brings to mind
An excellent article on Cliff Richard:
good article!
I'm going to go through those recommended Cliff Richard songs later and see if any of them are any good. Not expecting much but i'm going to try
Loads of early Elton John
Madman Across the Water is a magnificent album.


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