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by Mike Masnick
Tue, Dec 11th 2007 6:31am
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electricity, freeloaders, outlets, wifi
In the past, we've noted that with the rise of laptops and wireless access, there's a growing interest in people to find power outlets to plug in their laptops. While some airports are retrofitting to make this possible, it appears that a number of cafes, bars and restaurants may be going in the other direction. Jeremy Wagstaff notes that he's seeing more and more places covering up their outlets in an attempt to stop people from plugging in. The reasons usually given don't make much sense (one guy even tells Wagstaff that he's afraid people plugging in will "ruin the circuitry"). A typical response, of course, is that it's "stealing" electricity or that it's somehow costly. However, it's really just a a few pennies -- and if having available electricity brings in just a few more paying customers each day it's likely to be more than worth it. Another complaint that I've heard is that these types of places don't want people sitting around "clogging" the tables during busy periods, though many people have found that it actually helps to bring in more people during downtime and most users don't want to stick around during the busy times anyway. That may not always be the case, but any of these places can easily put in place a policy saying people can only stay for a certain period of time if they're not ordering more food, rather than blocking the use of electricity completely.
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Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 6:37amHow about the danger of having a cord on the floor where people could trip over it.
How about the fact that maybe most customers don't want to be in an environment where someone is all plugged in.
Can't you cheapskates pay for anything?
TheDock22, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:22am
Re:How about the danger of having a cord on the floor where people could trip over it.
That's a pretty fair argument. The store could be liable for anyone who injures themselves while on the property.
Of course these place could be cool about it and setup a counter next to all the outlets and leave the tables open to people just stopping in for quick coffee.
RJurden, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:27am
Re:How about most places that plan to have people plug in put an outlet under every table so there is no cord to trip on in the floor.
How about you stop being a senseless loser and get with the program. It's almost 2008.
Cheapskates look for value, and pennies of electricity versus dollars of profit on an order seem to be worth it. I think the question is, can't the cheapskate owners & managers sacrifice a few pennies of profit for a few extra dollars of profit?
In business it's called incremental profit. Profit you would not have gotten had you not spent a little extra to get that person in the door.
Re: Re:Cheapskates look for value, and pennies of electricity versus dollars of profit on an order seem to be worth it. I think the question is, can't the cheapskate owners & managers sacrifice a few pennies of profit for a few extra dollars of profit?
In business it's called incremental profit. Profit you would not have gotten had you not spent a little extra to get that person in the door.
i think we have firmly established here that most businesses are not interested in spending money to make money, only in making money regardless of how you mistreat your customers.
the dominant business model right now is the "i want to sit on my fat ass and have people give me money without taking any risks or doing much of anything." which is somehow more righteous than the evil consumer's desire to get something for nothing.
so, spending a dollar to make three is not the way it's done anymore... unless you're spending money on a lawsuit.
moe, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:36am
Re:Can't you cheapskates pay for anything?
I have to admit - I laughed at that. And I had the same reaction when I read, "A typical response, of course, is that it's "stealing" electricity or that it's somehow costly. However, it's really just a a few pennies
The bottom line is, it's their electricity and if they would rather not have people using it then it's their perogative. Short-sighted? Probably, but it really depends on the situation.
dave, 11 Dec 2007 @ 11:01am
Re:"Can't you cheapskates pay for anything?"
If your battery is dead, you can't just throw a quarter into a vending machine an recharge it. Or should we order a combo number 1 and electricity size it for an additional 5 cents.
KipEsquire, 12 Dec 2007 @ 9:24am
Re: Re:Been to an airport recently? There are indeed vending machines for recharging cell phone and laptop batteries, complete with an array of adapter plugs.
JB, 11 Dec 2007 @ 6:46am
SquattersPut the outlets on a separate circuit and turn them off when the place is crowded.
Better yet, isolate each outlet on a separate circuit and send a power surge to the jerk who's been sipping on his ice water for the past three hours.
matt, 11 Dec 2007 @ 6:57am
Re: Squatters buy tooI think you forgot that overall if you fail to cater to a service = less business
I agree people shouldn't go excessive. But what if you sit at a cafe for 3 hours and have 2-3 coffees?
Every tuesday before my orchestra practice I do exactly that. I have between 3 and 4 hours between work and my music group's getogether, which is 5 minutes from my work or an hour from my house. Does that make me a squatter to use the laptop at the cafe like that if I buy 3 chai teas during that period?
The problem is any definition of squatters is subjective. The 1 guy who drinks 5 coffees while he uses the net versus the 2 guys that drink 1 coffee in the same period, none of them would be there if the service is not provided.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:57am
Re: SquattersThat'll be a lawsuit.
sean, 11 Dec 2007 @ 6:46am
to go?hi, can I get a super-decaf-soy-frappe with cane-suger and ethical coca, and 20 minutes of electricty - oh, can I get that to go?
20 bucks that the corner Starbucks is Mike's second office?? :)
Susabelle, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:01am
Outlet VultureI'm a dedicated outlet vulture. I know which cafes/bookstores have decent power offerings and which don't. I agree, these stores should not begrudge us the few cents of power we use, when we spend money in their stores while we are there. I know I don't go to Panera Bread and use their free wireless without buying coffee and pastries, sometimes a chicken salad sandwich or soup or their new Crispini pizzas. They are certainly making their money back on me, and I do not feel like I'm abusing them by using a power outlet for an hour or so when I've spent $20 or more there.
It's very stingy and short-sighted for these cafes and bookstores to not offer power outlets.
Solution, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:17am
Great!I am in the process of designing a portable generator that will fit in your laptop case and power your laptop, cell phone and ipod. Also, should your car battery fail you can use it to jump start!
dorpus, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:19am
HomelessPlaces like California have large numbers of homeless "writers" who spend all day scribbling nonsense and violent drawings in their notebooks. And yeah, some of them have laptops. Their powerful smell harms the cafe's business.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 11:09am
Re: Homelesswelcome back dorpus! havent seen you for a while. always a pleasure.
MRK, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:45amRewiring would be the best solution, but nearly all of the coffee shops I go to are built into existing buildings, and rewiring is not an option.
Posting a sign that says "Please do not charge your laptops when there is limited seating" would probably solve 80% of the problem.
Walter, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:51am
ExcusesThose who are in favor of blocking the outlets are listing, as reasons to do so, things that of themselves would be reasons for kicking someone out: Taking up space without ordering, etc. Gee! Why not ask people to leave for THOSE reasons, and make outlets available for the paying customers?
It isn't really that difficult.
Todd, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:58am
free marketHow about we let the store owners decide if they want to offer power/wifi. Then we as the customer can choose which stores to patronize.
Founding Father, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:12am
Re: free marketWhat a novel idea.
Overcast, 11 Dec 2007 @ 7:59amCan't you cheapskates pay for anything?
Is that a question for the business or consumer?
If they advertise that they have 'Wi-Fi' it would only make sense to provide power as well. Perhaps they could set up 'bar' style seating around the wall edge and put power cords up there on the counter, keeping them off the floor.
If I'm wanting to have a coffee, etc - while I wait on whatever, and I have two places to choose from: One that lets me plug up the laptop and get a bit of work done and one that doesn't.... well, should be obvious which one I'll choose. I've done that a number of times in the past at the Airport.
Brian, 11 Dec 2007 @ 12:54pm
Re:Well, the point of 'Wi-Fi' is to be untethered. I don't think it's too much to ask people to remain untethered. Why not just make it a wired internet-then and you can hook up an ethernet cable as well as a power cord? I think being wired invites too many people to linger too long. 2-3 hours battery time should be sufficient, right? You guys say I buy a coffee every hour? Maybe they shuffle 4 people per hour through that same spot you're taking up each of whom buys a coffee. 4 vs. 1? No contest.
John Duncan Yoyo, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:15amI've got it. A coin operated outlet. Put a nickel in get 20 minutes. The operator gets 4.9 cents in profit. the system will pay for itself. If there are any customers left.
Max Powers, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:21am
Smart Business DecisionRedesigning your business to attract more laptop users is a great idea in the long run. Electricity is cheap, outlets can be safely added, and idiots could be dealt with the same way that the deadbeats are dealt with today. You know, the ones that sit reading the paper for hours.
My local bowling alley has counters with outlets to sit at while you watch bowlers and are allowed to use your laptop.
Don't forget the homeless use the library and many in my city use the free computers or bring their laptops with them. And yes, they clean up in the bathroom each morning and change their clothes. We have homeless people that care about their hygiene.
dorpus, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:28am
Re: Smart Business DecisionDon't forget the homeless use the library and many in my city use the free computers or bring their laptops with them. And yes, they clean up in the bathroom each morning and change their clothes. We have homeless people that care about their hygiene.
You haven't been to California. There is a subculture of homeless who are dirty, smelly, rude, and enjoy offending others.
suckerpunch-tm, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:29am
re: Bad Trends: Cafes Blocking OutletsI could be wrong here, but if circumstances were changed to exclude laptop users from being able to frequent the coffee shops & cafes of America, wouldn't like 75% of them have to close?
Nothing in US history has done more for getting people to actually go OUT to purchase their coffee drinks than the ability to use their laptop while doing so.
Just another short-sighted "fix" to a problem that isn't eally a problem to begin with.
JB, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:36am
suckerpunch-tmHow many laptops get ruined by spilled coffee, danish crumbs in the keyboard, sticky donuts, etc.? I think people shouldn't eat and use their laptop at the same time. (Much better to read a printed newspaper!)
Our local Buffalo Wild Wings offers free wifi. When your fingers are covered with barbecue sauce I guess you have to type with your elbows.
KipEsquire, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:46am
An Awful Lot of Hubris......for you to pretend that you know more about people's businesses than they do.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:48amIt's about turning tables over. That's how these places make money.
It's really annoying when I go and buy a coffee and want to sit down and all the tables are taken up by plugged in people who finished their coffee 3 hours ago.
You want plugs unblocked? Leave when you finish your meal, this isn't your office.
Danny, 11 Dec 2007 @ 8:50am
PaneraI love Panera for coffeehouse wireless. I noticed at Thanksgiving break (spent time there while on road visiting my parents) that they now limit wireless use to 30 minutes during the peak lunch hours of 11:30-1:30.
I can live with that; it seems fair. They did fill up every seat in the joint during lunch, but were mostly empty otherwise. And, while I might be able to spoof their network to stay connected, it seems respectful to honor their rules. So I ran other errands for the 90 minutes I couldn't be online.
I've noticed that the newer Panera's seem to have more outlets than the older ones - so they seem to be supportive of plugging in. The only thing they could do better would be floor outlets.
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:11amWhat is the deal with offering value-added services like wi-fi, and then complain when people actually use it? If you are going to offer a service, you should support it 100% or not at all.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:12am
You could always have...... a laptop with long battery life. Mine has 9 hours....
NoPottiesInBoston, 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:16am
just like the JohnAs I wandered around downtown Boston this weekend, an area notoriously toilet free, I discovered that I had to pee! So I headed into a pub that I knew had a restroom. Having taken care of business, I bought a beer and a sammich, despite having plans at another place later on. Wouldn't have given them my business without the john being available. Same deal - folks can figure it out. Motto: don't be a jerk. Applies to business managers/owners and customers equally :)
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:34am
McDonalds wating to happenThis is going to turn out just like the McDonalds coffee lawsuit. Someone will plug in a laptop or other device and not pay attention or pour coffee on the outlet and get electrocuted and bring a lawsuit agents the cafe. The reasoning that the cafe did not tell them that they could get shocked from using electricity. With the average stupidity of the people that believe that its not there responsibility to to think for themselves.
Dave Reed, 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:38am
Short Sighted = Out Of BusinessIt's not a problem. Not in the long term, anyway. The business that treat customers like an inconvenience will soon find that they have no problem.
No customers, no inconvenience.
Don't let me stop you from railing and ranting, though. Cafe owners need to know WHY everyone is at the coffee shop across the street.
Teilo, 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:47am
Re: Short Sighted = Out Of BusinessSuggestion: Take your receipts from the shop down the street, mail them to the manager of the outlet stingy shop, and include a note telling him that you would love to spend that money at his shop, but won't because you don't feel welcome there. Then let the market do it's work.
I saw this in action at a local Irish pub in town. We musicians (open session night) were suddenly being treated like crap by the management, so we went away for a while. So did their customers who came for the music. The management begged us to return, and have provided free food and first drink free for musicians ever since.
doug m, 11 Dec 2007 @ 9:56am
Proposal for the business ownersThe customers should save their receipts and mail them to the owner of the business, this way the cheapskate can just write it off as a business expense.
Business owners need to realize that if you piss off the customers, you won't have any business to worry about.
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 11:05am
Re: Proposal for the business ownersEven better... start a business that sells individually switched outlets, network gateways, and interfaces with common POS system (both very do-able with netcat, x10 outlets, etc).
Print a code on each receipt good for X mins of use. People can then a) continue to buy items to stay longer or b) pay a fee for wireless/power use.
Now shops not only force people to not net/power squat for hours without purchase, but can get money for those who want to stay. Just don't force people to pay monthly fees, or bulk time, or charge $15/hr for network access...thats what makes people hate cafes.
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 10:12am
RE: McDonalds....I hate it when the McDonalds lawsuit gets referenced as the best example of frivolous lawsuits! If anyone cared to actually look at the facts of that case, they would find out that McDonalds was indeed at fault. They admit that the coffee machine was malfunctioning and making the coffee too hot. They admit that the employee at the drive through window didn't secure the lid of the cup. The woman that got spilled on did suffer serious burns. The original lawsuit was just for medical expense, but ONLY after McDonald's refused, did she sue for punitive damages.
As far as a potential lawsuit for tripping over a cord, I doubt it. MOST laptop users that need to plug in won't sit in the middle of the room, and string the cord across the floor. That's why the seating along the walls is at a premium, and the subject of the article.
gee, 11 Dec 2007 @ 10:42am
Re: RE: McDonalds....You are pretty much the only other person I have ever heard talk about the actual facts of the McDonalds lawsuit. The whole thing was twisted around by the insurance companies to make the lady and her lawyer look bad. She didn't ask for much, and McDonald's deserved to be ripped apart for the way they treated her.
Stretch, 11 Dec 2007 @ 10:47am
Re: RE: McDonalds....Obviously you don't get out much. The outlet vultures aren't afraid to stretch the power cord to its full length in airports & cafes. If there's only one seat and it's not near the outlet, no problem.
So far I haven't seen anyone with a power extension cord.
Anonymous Coward, 12 Dec 2007 @ 8:58am
Re: RE: McDonalds....Actually, the manager of that particular McDonalds admitted that they -intentionally- kept the coffee much hotter than policy dictated, in order to keep it fresher for a longer period of time (basically less coffee gets thrown out, less pots have to be brewed).
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 10:59amI actually spend quite a bit of time at the local coffee house. I haven't ever seen anyone plugged in from the middle of the room where I frequent. But take notice, I did say MOST, not all.
Instead of blocking the outlets, why not post a rule that you can't plug in unless seated in designated power available seating? That would all but eliminate the outlet vultures that are too stupid to keep their cord out of the way of others.
dave, 11 Dec 2007 @ 11:06am
block mac addressinstead of blocking outlets couldn't they just have the router temporary block the mac address after x minutes of use.
And its ridiculous that airports are blocking them. What they hell do they care. Im not sitting in the airport for fun, its because I can't leave yet. I just spend a whole day at the airport and if I didnt have electricity to watch movies like vanishing point on my laptop I might have lost it.
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 11:09amI still don't see a problem. Business allready have zero problems with telling a non-paying squatter to leave if the space is needed. Wi-fi use is just the same as sitting there and reading a book.
mojo, 11 Dec 2007 @ 11:54am
Frak off squatersI admit, it does annoy me every time I walk into a coffee shop and can't get a seat because it's filled with kids and their laptops doing their homework. And I don't believe for a second that they are actually spending enough money to make it worth the time the spend there. I'd bet anything outlet blocking started because some coffee shop owner was sick of the guy who sat there every day, all day, playing with his laptop.
unknowledgable geek, 11 Dec 2007 @ 12:25pm
Power SurgeSo, I see a lot of points here to tell the managers to be accepting of change, in the fact that they should allow people to plug in at their shops. But, we are also forgetting that this is the "days of lawsuits". What happens when someone fries their laptop because they a something faulty. But, they blame your plug and therefore it is your fault and now they take you to court.
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 12:30pm
Re: Power Surge by unknowledgable geekIf they are already offering wi-fi, they are already accepting liability. If they are just interested in minimizing risk, then they shouldn't offer the service in the first place. They shouldn't get it both ways.
Shun, 11 Dec 2007 @ 1:14pm
Potential sources of liabilityI can see why businesses would want to restrict electricity use in their establishments. I don't know if it will improve or reduce foot traffic. Depends on the business. Customers, if they are offended could sue for breach of contract. "Hey, you promised me WiFi, but I can't plug in anywhere, what gives?"
Good luck with that. Wifi does not imply electrical outlets. Sure, in this modern age, we all assume that, but really, does that make sense? Can I recharge my iPod, car battery, and cell phone at your expense? Can I bring in my own electrical appliances and run them from the countertop, next to my laptop? What if I bring in a USB powered toaster? Would that be OK? Obviously, a business should have the right to restrict customers in what they are doing, vis-a-vis electricity use. How will that affect business? That depends. If you find yourself losing regulars because all of your customers are power leeches, you might get more foot traffic because now the leeches are elsewhere.
If the majority of your customers are laptop wireheads, oops. So, the business has to balance potential loss of customers with loss of money due to electricity and space. Business owners have to make these kinds of decisions all the time. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. The portable generator idea was the best. Mine runs on anti-matter. I'm hoping to upgrade to quarkium (John Ringo references).
Oh, and how could a business possibly sue a customer? If you ask your customer to leave, for whatever reason, and the customer refuses, then the customer is trespassing. Tough luck for the customer, but you don't have to come in again. That business has to stay in that location, unless rents are low all around the city, and the business has a huge pile of cash to move and start up somewhere else. So, chances are, a business will do everything it can before asking customers to leave. Yeah, lots of ideas here, but the core function of a business is to make the owner money, so they're constantly playing these balancing games.
If they make a bad business decision, they're punished in the market. No need to rant, unless you just want to give a business owner free advice.
Paul, 11 Dec 2007 @ 1:21pm
It is simple mathIf I go into a cafe with my laptop I am going to order a drink/muffin and sit down with my laptop while I eat/drink.
I am probably going to nurse the drink/food since my primary objective is getting work done on my laptop.
This is bad for the cafe since I am taking up space compared to someone who just orders a drink and leaves. If I have a power outlet then I am not limited by my laptops battery and I am likely to stay longer without ordering additional food/drinks which from a business standpoint is EXTREMELY annoying to employees and management (they run a cafe, not a halfway house)
The reason cafe's allow this kind of thing at all is because they have to stand out from the cafe next door, and if having comfy couches and letting you sit in there for an hour means they will get your $5 then that is what they will do. In college towns the competition for a study cafe is insane. This does not change the fact that you sitting there, not ordering anything additional, has zero benefit to them other than the limited word of mouth business you may provide.
Many years ago I worked at a pizza place where in the afternoons we would have a customer come in every now and then, order the cheapest thing we had, then go sit in the back corner of the restaurant's where a power outlet was, and where he was in reach of the nearby coffee shops free wifi. He would sit there for 2-3 hours, often unnoticed since it was in the back corner. After a few times we finally had to tell him that he was no longer welcome in our restaurant because he was ABUSING our hospitality.
He was not causing us to lose money but buying the cheapest thing on the menu and then using our restaurant as a library is disrespectful at best.
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 1:57pm
Re: It is simple mathFirst of all, the point of offering wireless internet at a cafe is NOT just to be "untethered" it is for sheer convenience that they don't offer wired internet access. Not to mention that it is fairly inexpensive when the increase in customer traffic is taken in to consideration.
As I said before, cafe owners can give someone the boot any time they like. You are right in saying that it is a balancing act, but it still can be done.
Consider that the cafe is still paying an ISP for the internet access that they CHOOSE to offer for free. The negligible cost of a tiny trickle of electricity that my laptop consumes can also be seen as part of the service that they CHOOSE to offer.
I never said that they must do this or else, but if I get ticked off by a particular cafe, I can always walk across the street to the next cafe.
And you were right for kicking the guy out of the pizza place. In that case your restaurant wasn't even offering any kind of service that would seem to invite someone to sit and relax whilst surfing with his laptop.
Erik, 11 Dec 2007 @ 1:45pmIt has nothing to do with the cost of the electricity. They don't want people spending $1.67 on a small coffee and taking up a table for 3 hours.
I imagine if people sitting at tables were actually spending money at the establishment in proportion to the time they were taking up space the blocked outlet policy would never have come into effect.
Clueby4, 11 Dec 2007 @ 2:51pm
Extra Battery? Too difficult for the crybabies?Squirt some more tears why don't you, and how presumptuous of you to assume that you should be allowed to use the electricity.
Bring an extra battery, failing that try recharging it while in a full bathtub. I mean seriously, WTF are you retarded, you can't be bothered with carry an extra battery(S) and it becomes world's responsible to provide an electric nipple for you to suckle.
To anyone even with a little sympathy towards the "I too stupid/lazy to carry extra batteries" individuals I say:
Inquisition (profile), 11 Dec 2007 @ 3:24pm
Re: Extra Battery? Too difficult for the crybabiesYeah! And bring your own silverware too! Why should they have to clean dishes that you messed up? Also, bring your own napkins. No stupid cafe should have to provide you with those! After all it IS your face!
Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2007 @ 3:42pmRather than the "All businesses are bastards!" scenario, perhaps looking for a solution that pleases the business and the customer would be the go. I have vague memories of a coffeeshop offering free wireless and being quite happy with you staying as long as you want, but charging you for a regular coffee every [fixed period of time] whether you actually wanted it or not. If you wanted it, you went to the counter and got it. There are obviously practical issues involved in this (how do you seperate the laptop customers from the non-laptop customers, how do you track the time, et cetera), but the idea seemed to have some merit for both parties, without it having to be a win-lose situation.
The customer can sit there as long as they want, using the wifi & electricity but getting charged for it (with free coffee thrown in) or getting charged for coffee every half hour (with free wifi & electricity thrown in) - whatever concept floats your boat. The coffeeshop has people sitting at tables for hours, but they're selling coffees to them all the time (that is, if they've an expectation of a table as having a half-hour "turnover", they can use "half hour" as their charge period).
cuppaJoe, 12 Dec 2007 @ 6:41pmI used to work @ cafe who decided to do this. They even made employees lie and tell people we used European outlets (it was a french cafe), so their laptops wouldn't fit the outlets. Hell, the city even offer free wi-fi to them and they still turned it down. I cannot tell you how many people used to come in and ask if they had wi-fi. What a waste.
Sushi Suzuki, 13 Dec 2007 @ 6:08am
and blocked is way different from non-existentA non-existent outlet tells the customer that he/she is out of look or the architect didn't really plan the space for the laptop generation. A blocked outlet tells the customer that the store hate you and wants you to leave after you finish your $3 cup of coffee.


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Wednesday, June 12, 2013
Craig Dahl says Niners tipped plays last year
Safety Craig Dahl, who played last year for a Rams team that went 1-0-1 against the eventual NFC champions, said Wednesday that the Niners tipped offensive plays based on personnel and formation, according to Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com.
"We had a few tips off of film that we were able to differentiate between run and pass early," Dahl said. "So that kind of gave us an added benefit on defense.
"It was a few different things. Some different personnel and alignment stuff really were the big keys, as far as our giveaways."
Maiocco says Dahl immediately told the 49ers about their tell after signing with the 49ers earlier this year.
"It's stuff that's been corrected," Dahl said. "It's just them discussing what kind of things we prepared for when I was in St. Louis last year, as far as scouting and different things we saw game-planning against the 49ers' offense. Kind of working with the offensive coaches on that aspect, and also kind of giving them tips and tendencies on their offense.
"It's been addressed and corrected. They knew most of it before I even got here, and it's re-confirming. It's just ongoing, self-studying and self-scouting stuff. Got that cleared up, too."
Helping to ensure it will be cleared up is Mangini, whose job surely will include spotting the kinds of things the Rams spotted last year during film study.
Still, it's a disclosure that has to be embarrassing for coach Jim Harbaugh and offensive coordinator Greg Roman. And it has to be vexing for Rams coach Jeff Fisher, who now has to find a different way to slow down the 49ers offense.
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Great Ideas! 8 Ways to Take Flattering Photos of Your Bump
Working Mother
Shoot Like a Pro: Photo Tips from Jennifer Loomis
Professional Photographer Magazine
Elements of Style
La Nazione
Articles about the exhibit of The Birth of A Mother (La Nascita di una Madre) at Palazzo della Penna Museum of Contemporary Art in Umbria
Il Messagero
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Press release for exhibit in Italy
Professional Photographer Magazine
Naked Instincts
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Jennifer photographs moms-to-be, Tammy Witt and CBS reporter, Kelly Wallace, and discusses the trend of maternity photography.
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Jennifer opens a studio in Atlanta
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Jennifer's family photography is featured in a magazine geared towards moms 35 and older
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Jennifer's photography celebrate the beauty of pregnant form in a special Mother's Day edition.
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Daily Candy cites Jennifer's Show "Feel Beautiful: a Celebration of Mothers" as #1 for their Mother's Day Weekend guide.
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BRIDGEVIEW, Ill. – Thierry Henry and Juan Pablo Angel will get their chances. That is inevitable, and the Fire back four knows it.
But how many chances will the Red Bulls' dangerous strike duo get? How many cracks at goal will the two Designated Players have Sunday night at Toyota Park? For their part, the Chicago are hoping that the pair's opportunities will be limited.
"They know how the game can change in a matter of seconds," Fire defender C.J. Brown said of Henry and Ángel. "We just have to be focused and in tune the whole game and limit their chances as much as possible."
How will the Fire go about limiting those chances? According to Brown, Chicago can't let Henry and Ángel get the ball, a process that must start with the Fire's own strikers.
"It starts with the forwards," Brown said. "If they can put pressure on [New York's] backs so that they don't play nice balls to their forwards, and if our midfielders are smashing down when it gets to [New York's] forwards, then it becomes difficult for them. I think, overall, we've done that fairly well all year, so we're going to hope to continue that."
When Henry and Ángel get their touches, Brown said Chicago ideally want them to have their backs to the goal.
"You don't want [Henry and Ángel] to face you dribbling," Brown said. "The advantage is for them then."
Brown added that Chicago will have to establish a fluid strategy if they are to effectively deal with New York's forward tandem.
"You can't sit there and say, 'Alright, I'm just going to be tight to them the whole game,' because both of them will figure out a way to get loose and make that opportunity," Brown said. "If you focus only one way on them, it won't work."
But Chicago can't afford to focus solely on the Red Bulls' striking tandem, not when New York have plenty of other attacking options in midfielders Joel Lindpere, Mac Kandji and Dane Richards.
Fire defensive midfielder Logan Pause thinks particularly highly of Lindpere, who scored the lone goal in the Red Bulls 1-0 defeat of the Fire on March 27.
"I rate him really highly," Pause said of the Estonian playmaker. "I think he might be one of the most underrated players in the league. He's dynamic and very good with the ball."
All things considered, the Fire are excited for the tough challenge that awaits them on Sunday.
"We're excited about where we're at," Pause said. "We're coming off a big win, getting guys healthy and getting [DPs] Freddie [Ljungberg] and Nery [Castillo] to join our team. This is a great time for our team and this organization and we're looking forward to Sunday."
Sam Stejskal covers the Chicago Fire for MLSsoccer.com. Email him at firstname.lastname@example.com and follow him on Twitter @samstejskal.


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|Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr on Thursday welcomed news that Warren Rodwell was alive after being held hostage for more than a year in the Philippines, but said his prolonged captivity was a "major concern".
Rodwell, a former soldier from Sydney, was taken by suspected Muslim
In a video posted on a YouTube channel linked to Abu Sayyaf, Rodwell confirms he was captured by that
Rodwell says the date is December 16, 2012 and shows a newspaper from the previous day. He says he was kidnapped 54 weeks ago. In the two-minute video he says, "I'm being held prisoner, kidnapped by (the) Abu Sayyaf Muslim terrorist group for over one year - actually 53, 54 weeks today. This video clip today is to say that I am alive, I am waiting to be released. I have no idea what's going on outside, I'm just kept held prisoner in isolation."
Carr said the "confirmation of Mr Rodwell's welfare is welcome" but called his prolonged captivity a "major concern".
In a statement, Carr said, "The Philippines government has the lead in response to this case and is devoting significant resources to securing Mr Rodwell's release. The Australian government is assisting Philippines authorities where appropriate."
He added Australian officials had been keeping contact with Rodwell's family and it would "not be helpful to Mr Rodwell to comment further".
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- March 16, 2014
- It's hard to imagine Sporting Kansas City having a much better season than it did in 2013. Winners of the MLS Cup, and a close second in the race for the Supporter's Shield (awarded to the Major League Soccer club with the most points in regular season play), 2013 was one for the books.
- Kansas school-funding ruling a 'negative' on state's credit report
- March 16, 2014
- A leading credit rating firm says a recent Kansas Supreme Court ruling on school funding was a "negative" event that puts even more pressure on the state's ability to pay its debts.
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- March 16, 2014
- The U.S. Geological Survey reports an earthquake shook southern Kansas.


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One of our somewhat recent regular group tasting events was held over dinner at Kathy's house, with a very loose theme of Loire wines. It was a small group of 6, so we were able to spend a good bit of time with each wine and try them with a variety of foods.
White wines:
2011 Thirot Sancerre Le Haut Venoize. This wine features a crunchy and bright-toned nose loaded with aromas of gooseberry, lime, grapefruit, grass, chalk and minerals. In the mouth, it's vibrant, fresh and tangy with flavors of grapefruit, lime, pineapple and minerals. This is a crisp and zesty wine that is loaded with life and ready to go.
2002 Foreau Domaine du Clos Naudin Vouvray Sec. Of the three Chenins tasted this evening, this one has the most penetrating and high-toned aromatic profile—featuring intense yet gently sweet aromas of mango, kumquat, peach, yellow raisin, toasted nuts and chalk dust. In the mouth, it is both sweet and tart, with bright and high-toned layers of yellow fruit and copper-tinged minerality on the attack yielding to fleshier layers of flavor through the generous and giving mid-palate. For all that's going on here, it still seems quite focused and well-balanced. I really enjoy this wine.
2002 Domaine des Baumard Savennières. This is much paler in color than the other two Chenins, and presents a much flintier and more metallic edge to the aromas of grapefruit, peach, apple, herbs and lemon pepper. In the mouth, it is surprisingly more rounded and soft-edged than the crisp nose would lead one to expect. It has a squeaky, waxen feel to it on the tongue, but the apple, pear and white peach flavors still seem fine and clean. The finish is not quite as dry in tone as with the '95 Trie Speciale, but overall it isn't nearly as expressive as that wine, either. Still, it is a pretty good drink.
1995 Domaine des Baumard Savennières Trie Spéciale. This somewhat golden-colored wine features very appealing aromatic layers of apricots, peach pits, dark honey, bruised apples, blanched nuts, wet stones, and wooly linens that are full and giving yet classy and distinctive. It is fleshy and relatively full-bodied on the palate, and is definitely dishing out a lot of flavor intensity right now. There's a fair bit of power and push to the flavors of pear, peach, steel and copper and a fine vein of underlying acidity, as well. The finish is getting to be a bit austere, but the wine still doles out plenty of very nice pleasure.
Red wines:
2005 Domaine de Château Gaillard Saumur. This wine is wonderfully aromatic—giving up loads of tobacco leaf, dried sweat, horsehide, barnyard scrabble, black cherry, black currant and limestone aromas that are a bit wild and rustic but otherwise almost Bordelaise in nature. In the mouth, it's juicy and vibrant, with purple fruit flavors supported by accents of menthol, tobacco and leather. It seems very fresh throughout, with a stony, earthy finish that brings it all together. This was a great showing and my WOTN.
2006 Catherine et Pierre Breton Chinon Beaumont. This wine presents a more deeply purple-fruited tone on the nose, with some creosote, wrought iron, herb and fireplace ember underpinnings that are smoky, brooding and almost primordial at times. In the mouth, it is rather structured--with a leaner, more sinewed and slinky profile than the Gaillard Saumur. It feels cool, dark and slightly chewy, with some light tannins making themselves known right from the start. There are solid ingredients here, but it just doesn't show much in the way of nuance right now, especially on the drying finish. I'd give this a few more years in the cellar, for sure.
2009 Charles Joguet Chinon Cuvée Terroir. Although we are clearly drinking this too young, it's still managing to show some interesting aromatic notes of black raspberries, cranberries, dark smoke, olives, rubber band and lavender that at times are a bit candied and at other times rather earthy. In the mouth, it features fresh berry flavors that are fairly primary but driven by solid acidic underpinnings and fine-grained tannins. It needs some time to come together, really.
2005 Couly-Dutheil Chinon Crescendo Clos de l'Echo. Oh boy, this wine features a very saturated nose that just coats the nostrils and nasal recesses with dark, dense aromas of blackberry, tobacco, eucalyptus, lava rock and chalk dust that just get better and better the longer you stay with it. In the mouth, it is very serious stuff that is packed tight with cool, muscled black and purple fruit flavors on a rock solid structural framework and supported by an earthy, tannic underpinning. This is a real long-distance runner that will require more patience. The nose is so delightful, but I just wish the palate were more approachable right now. I'd check in again on this impressive specimen in about 5 years or so.
Sweet wines:
1999 Domaine des Baumard Quarts de Chaume. The color here is a light yellow, and the aromas are similarly on the light side. To me, it smells of peaches, light honey, sweet corn, beeswax and mixed flowers. In the mouth, it is kind of light and lilting, with a gentle sweetness to the peach, apricot and flowery elements. It goes down easy, with a soft and elegant finish. It's not one of the more profound QdC's I've had, but it is fairly persistent and pleasing.
1995 Château Soucherie Coteaux du Layon-Beaulieu Cuvée de la Tour. This wine (served from a 500 ml bottle) pours into the glass with a fairly dark orange, iced tea sort of color to it. It has a nice little wild and exotic streak to the appealing aromas of cooked apricot, toasted orange peel, crème brulee topping, butterscotch candy, vanilla bean paste, honey and lilac. It is funky-sweet and exotically spiced in the mouth, delivering a nice languid stream of orange liqueur, butterscotch, baked apricot and baking spice flavors that are a lot of fun to drink. It's more interesting and more unctuously-styled than the Baumard, and is a great topper to cap off the evening.


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Author Notes: Sometimes putting a little bit of sweetness beside a piece of Gorgonzola can tilt an uneasy eater's attitude in favor of this blistering blue cheese. This sandwich includes a drizzle of honey over the melting cheese to achieve that end. I prefer to make this grilled cheese with the more pungent Gorgonzola Piccante, which gives a sharper bite because it's aged. But the milder Gorgonzola Dolce yields a gentler Panini should that be what your audience requires. The piccante is typically a bit drier than the dolce, so I allow it to sit a bit longer as a sandwich before cutting it, just to make sure the cheese has a change to fuse the ham and bread together adequately. I serve these sandwiches with fresh figs in the fall, Bosc pears in the winter or sweet cherries in June. —cheese1227
Serves: two sandwiches
teaspoons good quality olive oil (one with a nutty flavor is great)
pieces sesame semolina bread. Each slice should be about a half inch thick
cup crumbled Gorgonzola cheese, divided
teaspoon honey
pieces good quality Parma ham, sliced as thinly as your deli can provide.
- Heat two teaspoons of olive oil in a 10-inch skillet over medium high heat for about one minute. Lay the slices of bread in the pan.
- Immediately split the blue cheese between two slices of the grilling bread, spreading the cheese evenly on each piece of bread so it will melt uniformly.
- Drizzle half of the honey over each cheesy slice.
- Keep the bread on the heat until it is a golden brown color (about one minute more).
- Remove the pan from the heat and lay two slices of ham on each of the plain pieces of grilled bread. It's important not to place Parma ham on the bread while they are directly on the heat because it becomes stringy if it gets too hot.
- Use a spatula to turn the cheesy bread slices on top of the ham slices and transfer the sandwiches to a cutting board. Cut each sandwich in half with a serrated knife. Serve immediately.
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Gov. Pat McCrory signed the bill known as Voter ID into law Aug. 12 and followed it with a YouTube video and an editorial in the Raleigh News and Observer. He said we need an ID to board an airplane or buy Sudafed. He is correct, but our election laws are extensively covered in our state constitution.
Gov. Pat McCrory signed the bill known as Voter ID into law Aug. 12 and followed it with a YouTube video and an editorial in the Raleigh News and Observer. He said we need an ID to board an airplane or buy Sudafed. He is correct, but our election laws are extensively covered in our state constitution.
There is no constitutional right to board an airplane or purchase Sudafed, but there is to vote. Given the complexities of this new law governing our elections, I would like to see and hear some discussion in our community about it in order to see what we can learn from one another, in the event that it survives the legal challenges already filed against it.
The North Carolina chapter of the NAACP has filed a federal lawsuit and the Southern Coalition for Social Justice has joined with the League of Women Voters, Common Cause and the ACLU in filing a second suit. The Philip Randolph Institute has also filed a federal suit, and the Southern Coalition has filed in state court a suit alleging the law is in violation of our state constitution.
It appears there will be many others, and I would like to see my tax dollars going to the many who are in need rather than footing legal bills.
The N.C. General Assembly waited just two weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court neutered the Voting Rights Act of 1965 this past July. The N.C. Senate not only took up Voter ID but more than 50 new items, resulting in a bill of 57 pages of new election regulations. Only three of the new provisions pertain to voter IDs, though this is the main focus in our local and state press.
In addition to limiting the number of acceptable IDs for voters, the bill imposes a number of restrictions that will limit access to the polls. Some include reducing early voting by a week, no straight party ticket voting, elimination of student ID as acceptable ID for registration (with tax penalties for parents with students voting in districts where they attend school), and counties no longer will have the freedom to extend poll hours on Election Day under "extraordinary circumstances" such as long lines.
Also, the bill increases the maximum campaign contribution per election, cuts funds informing voters of the new laws, loosens disclosure requirements in campaign ads paid for by independent committees, repeals the publicly funded nonpartisan election program for some judicial races, eliminates same-day registration during early voting, and removes the popular pre-registration system in our high schools to students not yet 18.
The bill was passed with no Republicans in Raleigh voting against it and no Democratic lawmakers voting for it. The Republicans say it increases "voter integrity," while Democrats say it is "voter suppression" because in addition to harming democracy, it curbs access for working people, young voters, the elderly and disabled. The law does not seem to have an official name, but I call it the "We Don't Want Democrats to Vote Act."
Republicans say there will be no cost to the voter to get the required state-issued voter ID, but to get the "free ID," the voter will need a certified copy of his or her birth certificate ($24), a passport ($85) or a certified copy of naturalization papers ($19.95). It is not clear if the voter will be provided financial assistance for these items on the spot, or if he or she must go through a process of proving financial need.
In the 2012 election, there were 318,643 citizens in North Carolina who registered to vote but did not have a state ID. This laws impacts the elderly in particular. Often they were born at home and have no birth certificates, with the occasion of their birth recorded in the family Bible. In the days of Jim Crow laws, African-Americans were not welcome in North Carolina hospitals.
In another troubling part of the new law, there is a provision making it easier for vigilante poll workers to examine registration records and challenge voters. This includes any registered voter in any precinct.
This new law seems to attempt to curb voter impersonation, though there is no documented evidence of this being a problem in our state. Voter fraud is most common with poll workers, ballot counters and absentee ballot voters. Voter ID does not address any of these issues.
Our current state constitution was renewed, revised and adopted in 1868, following the Civil War. Not surprisingly, elections and the extent of voter franchise are extensively covered and are critical elements. My reading of the N.C. constitution says to change franchise qualifications in election law, there must be an amendment process rather than simply writing a new law.
The new election law limits and restricts who can vote and where, when and how, while also allowing more money to pour into our state elections. In addition to becoming the new political punch line for jokes on the national stage, this law is from the party claiming to be of limited government. It appears this was forgotten in Raleigh this summer.


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Water Shortage
At first glance, it seems like a lot of roadside construction is taking place in this residential neighborhood west of Beijing's Tsinghua University.
But a closer look reveals out-of-place pipes, mysterious pools of water and long hoses that run along the walls of nearby homes.
The "construction workers" aren't paid laborers either -- they're local residents who have simply walked out of their homes and started hacking into the road.
For water. They lift tiles off the pavements and dig until they hit ground water.
"Who would dig up wells if there's enough water? There's just no water," said one resident who would only give his surname, Yin. His family had been suffering from water shortages on and off for months until they decided to take matters into their own hands.
Growing demand
The Shuimo Community in Haidian district has grown rapidly and authorities have been unable to cope with the growing demand for water.
"We started receiving complaints from residents about water shortages since the end of July," said Liu Zhongmin, head of the Water Resources Office in the Department of Water Affairs of Haidian District. "We're aware of local residents digging wells to get water. These are illegal constructions and should be demolished."
But any plans to fix the water supply problem have been delayed. "We don't plan to do anything at this point as it'll spark tensions between us and residents," said Liu.
He explained that any work on the pipelines in the neighborhood would not be straightforward.
The community has grown from 1,000 residents to more than 8,000 in recent years, and new residents have occupied roads where pipelines are buried under their houses, according to Liu.
For the near future, residents see only one way out of the situation.
"Everybody knows we're not allowed to dig wells here but what else can we do? Who can solve the problem?" asks Yin. He adds that a well costs as much as RMB 40,000 (about $6,500) to complete.
Freshwater supplies in China have been increasingly strained in recent years. A growing population, industrial development and widespread pollution pushes the lack of freshwater to crisis levels, according to China Water Risk.By Dayu Zhang and Zoe Li, CNN


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Marathon officials recruiting volunteers
When the runners and walkers in the Tommy Vaughn's Blackfoot Marathon and More are making their way from the respective start lines to the finish, volunteers from the community will work to ensure their safety and comfort.
Event Director Jon Lyksett emphasized that "traffic control, parking, participant check-in, water and nutrition distribution, and course setup and takedown are all accomplished by volunteer workers. This is great opportunity for families, church and school groups, service organizations, or groups of friends who can pitch in and help give the runners a great experience at the event."
Some tasks will be done in the days before the run, with the greatest need being on race day, May 18. Individuals and groups can fill out a volunteer form at the event's website, www.blackfootmarathon.com. You will be contacted by a coordinator to discuss assignments and scheduling.
Race organizers are also seeking sponsors for several elements of the event. Sponsorships are a great way to show support and to gain visibility for your business or group.
Lyksett said, "Without the generous assistance lent by our sponsors, the Marathon and More wouldn't be the quality event that it's become. Last year's inaugural event showcased many businesses and groups as supporters, who helped defray expenses, which ultimately increased the amount of the contribution we were able to make to Community Dinner Table."
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My wife is a a real beauty to whom I've been married to for 5 years now. She is a real hot wife. She is 5′6″ tall, blondish hair, glasses, a little weight from having two kids but it gives her the best curves a husband could ask for. She often complains about her increasing size and wants to loose weight but I try to explain how she is beautiful and is perfect just the way she is.
I Shared My Wife
It was in April 2014 when me and my hot wife had our last bit of intimacy. she had heard enough about my fantasy of sharing my wife. She just couldn't ever see herself being with a black man even though I had tried to explain time and time again my reasons for it. It is the fact they are more endowed and the color of the contrasting skin that makes me want to see it so bad. Hopes that maybe for once she will learn the joys of sex, instead of having to act like she wanted it or to have to do things she didn't want to do just to make me happy.
She had already had enough and decided it was time to see what the real world was all about. After two kids and being married at the age of 22, she needed to know what was out there. I tried to talk her into trying my fantasy just to see if she at least enjoyed sex at that experience. I told her that we could set it up together and meet on neutral territory as to not let the man know where we live. With much reluctance she agreed. I already had one guy I talked to from time to time named Mike. I met him on the internet and found he was a strapping young man who had just what we were looking for.
Mike was about 170 pounds of muscle, a nice six pack, very well groomed and a 9 1/2 inch cock that I was certain she would love. I talked to him and told him all the things we had discussed previously and that my wife finally agreed though reluctant. I asked him if he was still interested and if he could send me pics to show her as she would want to talk to him first and then meet him before anything happened. He gladly agreed and sent pics along with his phone number saying call anytime. My wife and I emailed back and forth with him for a couple of months and then finally decided to talk to him on the phone. He sounded very well educated and respectful when we talked to him the first time so we agreed to meet him for drinks. We figured what could it hurt, worst thing she could do was say no and that she wasn't interested.
We met Mike at a bar not to far from the house and yet close enough to motels, it could happen if she agreed. We went into the bar and found a dim seat back in the corner of the bar where we could talk and be alone, now we just had to wait on him. My wife wore a black dress that was cross cut in the front showing how ample her breast were and went to mid thigh showing of her sexy long legs. I could have died right there and been in heaven. As I admired her beauty, a black man about 6′, toned and well dressed entered the bar. He scanned the room to see if he found who he was supposed to me. I held up my hand and he came to the table. He asked to join us and sat down at the booth. We made our introductions and chatted from there. We had a few drinks and I could tell my wife was feeling intoxicated. I told him we better head home before she became any more drunk but that is when she surprised me and said no. She said that we would go to the hotel and continue our conversation. Now mind you, our conversation had ranged anywhere from work to sex and hobbies so it was an interesting evening so far. I asked her if she was certain and she said that she had pondered it over in her mind all night and yes she was sure.
We made it to the Super 8 motel about 11 pm after stopping to get some drinks to take back to the hotel. In anticipation of the yes, I had brought the video camera, camera, massage oils, and a restraint system that goes under the mattress with a blindfold. We sat around and talked more until about 1 am when we realized how late and drunk we were really getting. Mike said watch this and stood up at that point and took his shirt off. He had a six pack and was defined like I had never seen. I looked over to see my wife looking and didn't even notice I was there. He then took his pants off and you could see the outline of his bulging tool through his boxers. He hadn't even got hard yet and looked to be 6 inches long. April was awestruck that this was even happening as she didn't even notice me getting my camera ready or video camera out.
Mike walked over to the bed and asked if she like what she saw so far and all she could do was nod. He took her hand and placed it on his boxers where his cock was. She gasped at the size of it and began to rub on it. As it grew it began to move upward and he told her to go ahead and remove the boxers. She slipped her fingers in the waistline and with a tug of his boxers, his cock sprang out and almost hit her in the face. Normally my wife doesn't give blowjobs but tonight she had an uncut black cock staring her dead in the face. April reached up and took a hold of Mike's cock and her hand wouldn't even fit around the shaft. She moved her hand up and down the shaft and started to lick the head. The purplish colored head started to come out as his cock hardened more. She pulled the foreskin back and started to put the cock in her mouth. I had turned the video camera on and was taking pictures as she tried to get as much of his cock in her mouth as she could. I had already put the restraints on the bed and asked him if he was going to massage her first. He was more than ready to accommodate her.
We had her take her dress off which left her in her panties. They were a nice pair of lace boy shorts. He slowly removed her panties to reveal he lovely hair that covered her sopping wet hotness. We laid her down on the bed and he blindfolded her while I put the cuffs around her wrists and ankles.
As Mike started to straddle her to massage her, she squirmed as his cock started to touch her delicate skin. He slowly poured oil on her back, but and legs letting it slowly drip down her behind to her inner thighs and waiting pussy. He slowly started to rub her back and as he did she could feel his thick shaft pressing at her thighs.She was longing to have that thick cock in her, stretching her waiting walls and making her feel pleasure that she has never felt. But Mike was having none of that just yet. He continued to tease her and massage her as she squirmed to get him in her.
Mike then had her turn over and reattached her to the bed. He poured oil over her body and started on her shoulders massaging her while he now was straddling her to the point his cock was pressing against her waiting pussy. As he slowly moved down to her breast, he rubbed over her breast and lightly pinched the nipples making her gasp as the pain yet pleasure she found from it.
After he has finished massaging her breast, he lightly licked them and then bit the nipples enough to make it pleasure them to where they stood at full attention. He keep moving down rubbing her stomach and legs making sure to avoid her pussy. He works down her legs and massages her feet. This puts her in pure ecstasy as he knows just where to push to get her juices flowing. He slowly leaned down as he massaged her calves again and lightly licked at her hotbox making her want more.
He takes the oil and pours over her pussy as he inserts the two middle fingers into her waiting pussy. He starts to move his hand up and down hitting the spot she had never thought she had. She started to have a massive full body orgasm that made her pussy shoot her juices out and she moaned like never before. This made her want to feel that cock in her even more now.
He moves up and gives her a long kiss as she grabs his cock trying to get him in her. He then starts to rub his cock up and down her waiting swollen labia lips and pussy. Without waiting, he pushes his cock all the way in, burying his 9 1/2″ as she cringed as he hit her hilt. He held it there giving her time to adjust to the size.
She started to get used to the size so he starts to move in and out causing her a mix of pain and pleasure. As he keeps going the pain slowly subsides and is replaced by the most fulfilling and largest cock she has ever had. Her pussy walls are being stretched and she fills her pussy is as full as it ever has been.
As Mike moves in and out, she can feel her second orgasm building all through her body and he knows it. He starts to pick up pace to make sure she gets the fullest pleasure she can. He feels her pussy start to contract around his thick shaft as she has her second but strongest orgasm she has ever had. She is screaming out his name by this point and had many orgasms before the night was through. As Mike got ready to cum, she swore she could feel his cock getting bigger than it had been yet. He then buried his cock to her hilt and squirted stream after stream of hot sperm deep into her causing her yet another orgasm.
We all got cleaned up after the experience and said goodnight as I am sure we would see him again. My wife and I then prepared as I started rubbing her vagina and going down on her before I finished her off myself. I shut the video camera off. And then I banged her deep for another great fuck. Then we snuggled up for a nights sleep after the long night of my wife's first.


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The focus of Billygames and stuff has changed from being a blog of the Billygamer sessions to more a record of our move from the UK to live in Austria. There will still some gaming stuff and some about our life here in Austria. I post a bit irregularly...but hey, I'll try to keep up!!


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My 1000 Song Playlist 1963 - 2012
Hi, I've just signed up to the forum and thought I'd share with everyone a music project I've just started.
As the title suggests it's a 1000 song playlist containing 20 songs per year over the last 50 years. I'm doing it as a Xmas present for someone but also a large part for myself, firstly to have what should be a kick-ass playlist to play on shuffle, but mainly to broaden my music horizons. Whilst I love music, I am well aware that my knowledge is limited and I haven't scratched the surface to a lot of good material that is out there in terms of time period and genre.
So I'm not putting this out there for it to get shot down in flames (hopefully), I fully encourage suggestions of songs I may want to include and opinions, discussion more than welcome.
There are many different factors in why a song has been included. I have tried to include a variety of genres where possible, providing I enjoy the song. Things like historical significance, pop-culture references, personal nostalgia may also factor. I have researched the best I can giving the time-scale that I have, downloading best of sixties torrents etc, looking up billboard charts per year so pretty much all the songs will be rather mainstream with little or no album tracks included. I hope that when it is finished it will be a decent representation of the last 50 years of music, to my taste.
Anyway, here is the first one, 1963.
1. Louie Louie - The Kingsmen
2. I Want To Hold Her Hand - The Beatles
3. I Saw Her Standing There - The Beatles
4. Surfin USA - The Beach Boys
5. Surfin Bird - The Trashmen
6. Ring Of Fire - Johnny Cash
7. I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield
8. Twist and Shout - The Beatles
9. Walk Like a Man - Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons
10. It's All Right - The Impressions
11. Love Me Do - The Beatles
12. She Loves You - The Beatles
13. From Me To You - The Beatles
14. Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five
15. Be My Baby - The Ronettes
16. In Dreams - Roy Orbison
17. Please Please Me - The Beatles
18. In My Room - The Beach Boys
19. Since I Fell For You - Lenny Welsh
20. Blowin' In The Wind - Bob Dylan
Note - all selections are based on the year the album was released (as per Wikipedia), not when the single was released in the charts.
This year I found one of the hardest due to the fact it is just before the big influx of rock of the mid-late 60's which is more up my street. I am very conscious that it is very Beatles heavy but I was struggling to find anything I considered better to include for that year. On the flip side 'discovering' The Beatles and Bob Dylan was a big positive already at this early stage as I never truely paid much attention to their work.
This looks good.
Please include spotify playlists if you find the time.
I have never used spotify but if there is enough interest I will do it. Probably won't be until after I've finished the playlist though as I still have another 38 to do before xmas.
might be a little bit better as a YouTube playlist
given the gaps in Spotify's catalogue, but you can export it from Spotify using, but if you're doing this as an iTunes playlist, it may allow you to export those to Spotify anyway http://tomahawk-player.org/
1. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - The Righeous Brothers
2. Oh Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison
3. Baby Love - The Supremes
4. No Particular Place To Go - Chuck Berry
5. Viva Las Vegas - Elvis Presley
6. I Get Around - The Beach Boys
7. A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles
8. Eight Days A Week - The Beatles
9. All Day And All Of The Night - The Kinks
10. House Of The Rising Sun - The Animals
11. You Really Got Me - The Kinks
12. Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles
13. I Feel Fine - The Beatles
14. Fun, Fun, Fun - The Beach Boys
15. You Never Can Tell - Chuck Berry
16. Where Did Our Love Go - The Supremes
17. Baby I Need Your Loving - The Four Tops
18. Walk On By - Dionne Warwick
19. A Change Is Gonna Come - Sam Cooke
20. The Times They Are A-Changin' - Bob Dylan
Interesting about 'Eight Days A Week' in that it was never released as a single in the UK despite being a no.1 hit in America. Lennon described the song as "lousy" and wasn't played at live shows. It is actually one of my favorite Beatles song but I suppose one of the great things about music is it's polorisation from one person to the next.
I had also never heard 'A Change is Gonna Come' before which is a great song! Check it out if you haven't heard it.
Too much Beatles
sorry - but I think you need to be looking a bit harder.
Suggestions welcomed
A lot of my research is done around the yearly top 100 lists on digitaldreamdoor and after trawling through 1963 I found it a rather poor year in my opinion, which is why it is so Beatles saturated. Subsequent years are much more balanced.
Anyway, I appreciate the feedback.
How about:
Bob & Earl "Harlem Shuffle"
Bobby Vinton "Blue Velvet"
The Chiffons "He's So Fine"
The Crystals "Then He Kissed Me"
Dion "Ruby Baby"
The Drifters "On Broadway"
Garnet Mimms "Cry Baby"
Jan & Dean "Surf City"
Martha & The Vandellas "Heatwave"
Marvin Gaye "Can I Get a Witness"
Peter Paul & May "Tiny Sparrow"
Stevie Wonder "Fingertips Part 2"oxo_foxo this'd this
Also -
Try www.rateyourmusic.com for good inspiration. Just do a search on singles/albums and EPs from any given year.
- oxo_foxo this'd this
I'm pretty sure I have already listened to the majority of these but I will give them another try.
Thank you for the suggestions.
Then you are just crazy if you think that the Beatles version of Twist and Shout, or Please Please Me, are better than any of those ;)
Ha, twist and shout and please please me are two of the songs I will be dropping. After a brief listen I'm looking to include "Can I get a witness", "Cry baby" and maybe another.
Again, I appreciate the suggestions. I was really struggling with this year and wasn't very happy with the final list.
Could do with more Dylan album tracks in place of some of the Beatles ones
(no more imaginative really but better)
you're pretty buggered from the off.....
.....considering you won't find any tracks from the most 'overrated band in the history of music' on Spotify....you may wanna first investigate what's available to list.
Spotify never entered my mind when doing this. It's all done through I-tunes and will be sync'd to an I-pod as a xmas present.
Most overrated band in history isn't on Spotify?
I swear I saw some Radiohead on there the other day. AMIRITE GUYS?!this'd this
I've downloaded the rolling stones magazine top 500, Bacoben(?) rock top 500 and then several decade compilations (60's, 70's etc) which I've cross referenced into each year. I will then use the digitaldreamdoor top 100 for that year to mop up the rest. It's then a case of whittling it down to 20. It's not a definitive list by any means, I don't have the time to listen to album tracks but then I want it to be generally mainstream and recognisable anyway so I can stick it on in parties etc. Time is also a big factor as when I started I left myself with less than 3 months to complete the 50 playlists, and it's proving to be very time consuming.
this is a really cool idea for a present
that's all i have to say really.
this idea is so gay
and a complete waste of time
Are you really 31 or just dyslexic?
Grow up.
Worth bumping this thread for this
1.(I Can't Get No Satisfaction) - The Rolling Stones
2. My Generation - The Who
3. Help - The Beatles
4. Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan
5. We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals
6. Gloria - Them
7. Day Tripper - The Beatles
8. Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
9. I Can't Explain - The Who
10. Ticket To Ride - The Beatles
11. Tired Of Waiting For You - The Kinks
12. Mr. Tambourine Man - Bob Dylan
13. The Tracks Of My Tears - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
14. I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops
15. Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown
16. My Girl - The Temptations
17. Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers
18. Ooo Baby Baby - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
19. People Get Ready - The Impressions
20. I've Been Loving You Too Long - Otis Redding
I have "Time Of The Season" in for 1968 and was/am toying with "She's Not There" for 1964. Any others you'd recommend?
Possibly 'Tell Her No'
But Time Of The Season is decent, too. Good work.
Have you thought about -
The Byrds "Turn! Turn! Turn!" (the song that invented jangle pop!)
The Pretty Things "Rosalyn" (blues garage / proto-punk classic)
The Sonics "Psycho" (ditto)
The Mama's and the Papa's "California Dreaming"
Martha & The Vandella's "Nowhere to Run"
Smokey Robinson "Tracks of My Tears" (is the money track)
John Coltrane "A Love Supreme: Part 1" (what no Jazz?)
Wilson Pickett "In the Midnight Hour"
Something from Bert Jansch.PickledOeuf this'd this
"Tracks of My Tears" is on the list (13) and "California Dreaming" is on 1966.
"Turn, Turn, Turn" was on the shortlist and "In The Midnight Hour" I'm not too fussed on.
The rest I haven't heard though so I will check them out. Keep the suggestions coming, thanks.
1. When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge
2. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield
3. Monday, Monday - The Mama's & Papa's
4. It's A Man's Man's Man's World - James Brown
5. This Old Heart Of Mine (Is Weak For You) - The Isley Brothers
6. It Takes Two - Marvin Gaye & Kim Weston
7. Rescue Me - Fontella Bass
8. I Got You (I Feel Good) - James Brown
9. Get Ready - The Temptations
10. Gimme Some Lovin' - The Spencer Davis Group
11. Wouldn't It Be Nice - The Beach Boys
12. California Dreamin' - The Mama's and Papa's
13. Hey Joe - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
14. Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones
15. Substitute - The Who
16. Sloop John B - The Beach Boys
17. Keep On Running - The Spencer Davis Group
18. Sunny Afternoon - The Kinks
19. God Only Knows - The Beach Boys
20. The Sounds Of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel
it's his list though, mate
maybe do your own list, in your own thread
Christ almighty! I mean we all know about the sixties and that...
but when you put a list of songs like that together - what a year!
All you'd need to top it off would to be aged 18, for England to win a football tournament and for some of that free love stuff going around.
1. Respect - Aretha Franklin
2. Soul Man - Sam & Dave
3. Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops
4. Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley
5. Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
6. Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck
7. I'm A Believer - The Monkees
8. Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys
9. Light My Fire - The Doors
10. Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
11. Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
12. Break On Through - The Doors
13. Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
14. Sunshine Superman - Donovan
15. Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks
16. Itchycoo Park - The Small Faces
17. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
18. The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
19. White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
20. The End - The Doors
I would comment
But SilkySkillz says it's none of my business.
Can't say I've read all the lists in detail, but I've done a bit of Ctrl+F'ing and these are some that would definitely be in my lists from the years already done and which haven't been mentioned yet.
They include one of the best songs ever recorded in the shape of Nina Simone - Sinnerman (and you could have a bunch of other Nina songs too). But also:
The Drifters - Under the Boardwalk
Sugar Pie DeSanto - Soulful Dress
Bert Jansch - Needle of Death
Jimmy Ruffin - What Becomes of the Broken Hearted
Love - 7 & 7 is
Nancy Sinatra - Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
The Young Tradition - The Lyke Wake Dirge
Erma Franklin - Piece of My Heart
Etta James - I'd Rather Go Blind
Nick Drake - Been Smoking Too Long
Tim Buckley - No Man Can Find The War
Turtles - Happy Together
I'd've probably picked Broken Arrow for Buffalo Springfield as well, and Behind A Painted Smile for the Isleys. But hey. You included the best Four Tops song, and have got Fontella Bass and Marvin & Kim, so not too shabby.
'63 was also the year that one of the best live albums of the century was released and another was recorded
One recorded in Harlem and the other with Harlem in its name, as it happens. Y'already know I'm talking about James Brown - Live At The Apollo (actually recorded in '62, but released in '63), and Sam Cooke - Live at the Harlem Square Club (recorded '63, not released until 1985). Not sure how that fits into your project, but you should at least give 'em a listen.PickledOeuf this'd this
Thanks for the suggestions
I'm a bit pushed for time at the moment, but I will give them a listen soon.
Nah, not really
Gonna have some dinner and maybe watch something on iplayer.
I have playlists ready for roll...
For most years going back to the early fifties.
All works in progress though.
Here's 1967 - I won't post any more in this thread though, as it's not my thread - and they rightly belong somewhere else, at some point in the future!
1. I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Marvin Gaye
2. (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding
3. I Say A Little Prayer - Aretha Franklin
4. I Get The Sweetest Feeling - Jackie Wilson
5. Hard To Handle - Otis Redding
6. Piece Of My Heart - Big Brother & The Holding Company
7. Folsom Prison Blues (Live) - Johnny Cash
8. Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations
9. Daydream Believer - The Monkees
10. Mrs Robinson - Simon & Garfunkel
11. Time Of The Season - The Zombies
12. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf
13. Born To Wild - Steppenwolf
14. Voodoo Child (Slight Return) - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
15. All Along The Watchtower - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
16. Jumping Jack Flash - The Rolling Stones
17. Sympathy For The Devil - The Rolling Stones
18. Hey Jude - The Beatles
19. Everybody's Talkin'- Nilsson
20. What A Wonderful World - Louis Armstrong
1. Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin
2. Pinball Wizard - The Who
3. Bad Moon Rising - Creedance Clearwater Revival
4. Honkey Tonk Woman - The Rolling Stones
5. I Wanna Be Your Dog - The Stooges
6. Venus - Shocking Blue
7. Something - The Beatles
8. Space Oddity - David Bowie
9. Gimme Shelter - The Rolling Stones
10. Proud Mary - Creedance Clearwater Revival
11. Come Together - The Beatles
12. Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
13. Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond
14. I Want You Back - The Jackson 5
15. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby - Marvin Gaye
16. Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield
17. Here Comes The Sun - The Beatles
18. Thank You - Led Zeppelin
19. Man Of The World - Fleetwood Mac
20. Lay Lady Lay - Bob Dylan
1968 and 1969 are great, great years for music, for sure
some of the best
Most definitely
I'd say that 1967 - 1971 was probably the best era for music. It was quite painful having to leave some great songs out.
1. Layla - Derek And The Dominoes
2. American Woman - The Guess Who
3. Black Magic Woman - Santana
4. Paranoid - Black Sabbath
5. Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin
6. Black Night - Deep Purple
7. All Right Now - Free
8. Ride A White Swan - T Rex
9. Up Around The Bend - Creedance Clearwater Revival
10. Roadhouse Blues - The Doors
11. Ohio - Crosby Stills Nash And Young
12. Fire And Rain - James Taylor
13. Let It Be - The Beatles
14. Band Of Gold - Freda Payne
15. Get Up (I Feel Like A) Sex Machine - James Brown
16. Little Green Bag - George Baker Selection
17. Moondance - Van Morrison
18. Your Song - Elton John
19. Ruby Tuesday - Melanie
20. The Long And Winding Road - The Beatles
1. Stairway To Heaven - Led Zeppelin
2. Baba O'Riley - The Who
3. Rock And Roll - Led Zeppelin
4. Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who
5. Black Dog - Led Zeppelin
6. Brown Sugar - The Rolling Stones
7. Get It On - T Rex
8. Changes - David Bowie
9. Ain't No Sunshine - Bill Withers
10. Tired Of Being Alone - Al Green
11. What's Going On - Marvin Gaye
12. Just My Imagination - The Temptations
13. Mr Big Stuff - Jean Knight
14. Maggie May - Rod Stewart
15. American Pie - Don Maclean
16. Imagine - John Lennon
17. Wild Horses - The Rolling Stones
18. Life On Mars? - David Bowie
19. Behind Blue Eyes - The Who
20. Riders On The Storm - The Doors
1. Superstition - Stevie Wonder
2. You Are The Sunshine Of My Life - Stevie Wonder
3. Love And Happiness - Al Green
4. Let's Stay Together - Al Green
1. Superstition – Stevie Wonder
2. You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
3. Love and Happiness – Al Green
4. Let's Stay Together – Al Green
5. Do It Again – Steely Dan
6. Reeling In The Years – Steely Dan
7. Highway Star – Deep Purple
8. Smoke On The Water – Deep Purple
9. Children Of The Revolution – T Rex
10. Metal Guru – T Rex
11. Ziggy Stardust – David Bowie
12. Starman – David Bowie
13. Stuck In The Middle With You – David Bowie
14. Free Ride – Edgar Winter Group
15. Listen To The Music – Doobie Brothers
16. Take It Easy – The Eagles
17. Tumbling Dice – The Rolling Stones
18. Horse With No Name – America
19. Rocket Man – Elton John
20. You Were Always On My Mind – Elvis Presley
1.Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd
2. Band on the Run - Paul McCartney & Wings
3. 20th Century Boy – T Rex
4. Wishing Well - Free
5. The Jean Genie - David Bowie
6. Long Train Running - Doobie Brothers
7. The Joker - Steve Miller Band
8. Dream On - Aerosmith
9. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - Elton John
10. Live And Let Die - Paul McCartney & Wings
11. Knockin On Heavens Door - Bob Dylan
12. Angie - Rolling Stones
13. Desperado - The Eagles
14. Hypnotized - Fleetwood Mac
15. Candle In The Wind - Elton John
16. Living For The City - Stevie Wonder
17. Lets Get It On - Marvin Gaye
18. Higher Ground - Stevie Wonder
19. Jungle Boogie - Kool & The Gang
20. The Payback - James Brown