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Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Jordan playing Bobcats vs Hornets debate down the middle
In fact, what MJ said was very little at all. Read the relevant excerpt here and tell me what you think -- to me it sounds like an owner who really hasn't decided on this topic. But some believe he is cushioning the blow for the pro-Hornets faction (of which I am one -- I believe the name should change) when and if he decides to stay with things "as is" and keep them as the "Cats" as he prefers to refer to them.
From Jordan's column:
The most popular topic this month was our team's nickname. With New Orleans announcing their decision to become the Pelicans, some of you have asked if we would consider taking the Hornets nickname.
We have been in contact with the NBA and we are conducting our own research to determine if that is the best course of action. As some of you may be aware, we have engaged a national polling group to survey both our current season ticket holders and randomly selected individuals in our local area to see how our fans and stakeholders feel about this topic.
Judging from the e-mails you've sent me, the opinion seems to be very mixed. Some of you have said we should change the name and some of you have said we should not. In fact, a few of you even suggested that we should change the name to something new altogether, and not use Bobcats or Hornets.
There are a lot of factors to take into account and a lot of information to sift through. This is a decision that we will not take lightly and we will not make hastily. We want to do what we believe will be in the best interests of our organization and our fans.
OK, this is Scott again -- if I'm Jordan and I'm really going to make this change, not sure I would have used the word "mixed" -- I might have implied more support for my side. But then again it's Jordan. He just turned 50, he owns the team and, as usual, he's going to do what he wants. It's just interesting reading the tea leaves on this one because it means a lot to some people.
69 comments:
Who honestly prefers the Bobcats over the Hornets? Jordan is just making excuses not to pay for the name change.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM
I hate the Bobcats name and the old owner. I really hope they go back to the Hornets. That team actually had some history to be proud of. The Bobcats have sucked every year they have been in existence lets just forget this horrible product that has been in our city for ten years.
As a twenty something male I'm embarrassed to say I'm a bobcats fan outside of Charlotte , everytime I have I've been ridiculed. Furthermore, I watch the games at home but I hate the snarky comments I get when I'm at a bar IN Charlotte and they don't even have the game on. This can happen as close as one mile from the stadium. If you had the Hornets name back I think those two issues would be solved. If sports bars in Midwood, Elizabeth, Dilworth, Uptown, and south end aren't showing the games than how can this product be sustainable at all??
- February 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM
If he had decided to keep the "cats" name, he would not have even mentioned a possible name change. He would have ignored the topic.
Granted, MJ is not responsible for letting the Hornets leave Charlotte in the first place. He is also not responsible for the "Bobcats" name.
However, he has the ability to right the wrongs of others.
I've only been to a couple of Bobcats games... but I would certainly go to more Hornets games.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Some believe he is cushioning the blow for the pro- Bobcats name fans. Why on earth would he create all this excitement around the name change to turn around and stick with the worst performing brand in the NBA in terms of merchandising?
It makes zero sense!
I can't believe this team will continue to be called Bob's Cats after this season
- February 26, 2013 at 3:29 PM
It looks like once again my point is proven. "The Bobcats have sucked every year they have been in existence lets just forget this horrible product that has been in our city for ten years." So do you really think a name change will change the product.....NO! If the team were winning, you would not hear much of this if at all. As far as the merchandise sales, from my understanding, that revenue is split up amongst the teams so the Bobcats/Hornets would see no difference. If you just dont like the name is one thing but if you want to do it because you think will change the product on the court which most people do, you are just fundamentally wrong.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Hornets would definitely be the best course of action. I also am ridiculed throughout the us for being a Bobcats fan.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM
- Clay Mitchell said...
We're all going to be in for a big laugh when the team is renamed the "Carolina Jordans"
- February 26, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Sounds like if we want the name changed, we gotta make a little bit more noise about it.
I grew up a Hornets fan, was very sad when they left, and embraced the Bobcats once they got here, but if MJ does't do the right thing and restore Charlotte's basketball history (including the legacies of Dell Curry, Muggsy Bogues and Bobby Phills), I'm done with his team. MJ should have just said no if he doesn't want to do it, and not string people along since he bought the team in 2010.
The name change to Hornets would be a home run in the local community with ALL Charlotteans who understand its history and its meaning.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:36 PM
The Bobcats name sucks! The old owner/owners threatened us with the team. Who can forget the time minority owner "Nelly" said he would help take the team to a city that would support them. Great way to endear the fans, even more laughable he said he move them to St. Louis.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM
This is Jordan making sure this franchise continues on the path of messing up EASY CHOICES. I think any SANE person would not argue for BOB JOHNSON'S KittyCats to stay the name for Charlotte's NBA team. I say move the team if you want to keep that name Jordan because I promise Carolina as a whole will never support this team win or lose under the disrespectful nickname of BOBcats. I for one will just turn the NBA off again or root for another team close to this area if they keep that name. Stop being the bad front office decision maker you have been and make the right choice here for your own pockets, the franchise's future, and Carolina in general.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:41 PM
Michael Jordan does not have the intellectual intelligence to write such a column. Just listen to him talk and anyone would know he does not have command of the English language to write such a column. Come on....who is he kidding??????
- February 26, 2013 at 3:41 PM
I'm going to be furious if they do not change the name.
This will be the last nail in the Bobcats coffin for me. I've been a Season Ticket Holder for a long time and I have been patient through the rebuild and I have renewed my tickets for next season but, if they don't change the name now that it is available. I'm done!
- February 26, 2013 at 3:46 PM
As a Charlottean living in Greece and who follows the Bobcats with a passion, I can truthfully say that no one recognizes the Bobcats internationally but the Hornets are still thought of as Charlotte. The other day, I even saw a man wearing a Charlotte Hornets hat; never seen a Bobcats hat over here. International brand recognition is with the Charlotte Hornets. Make the change!
- February 26, 2013 at 3:49 PM
Where is a Keep the Cats grassroot effort?? If the current name is so popular. We show our support of the cats by consistently being DEAD LAST in merchandise sales. Change the name back to Hornets
- February 26, 2013 at 3:50 PM
As a Bobcats fan and supporter, I will again say not no, but HELL NO. The Hornets? No way. I was here the entire time that team played off Tyvola, but it seems lots have forgotten. It was EMPTY the last two years. Courtside tickets for playoff games were sold for less than face value. The name and team moved on long ago. It is time for Michael to stand up and tell these children to grow up and move on. We have a great team, the Bobcats.
- February 26, 2013 at 3:56 PM
- John Morgan said...
Jordan's comments are the verbal equivalent of the 'due diligence' we've been hearing so much about over the last month or so. The odds of the powers that be announcing a rebrand during the regular season (while another team plays under the 'Hornets' banner) were always slim. Mike is doing exactly what he should do: play things close to the vest, project an air of measured prudence, then make the announcement when the timing is perfect.
A swift 'NO' would end all discussion. It would have ended it in 2010 when the Charlotte Hornets 2.0 Movement began in earnest. It would have ended it last year, when things really got fired up. But Mike won't say no...
...because we're taking back our Hornets.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:02 PM
- CHARLES OWEN said...
Call them THE CHARLOTTE WHO..Short for who cares as NOBODY is watching these games. Go on the street uptown and ask ant ten random people the starting line-up..or any five players on the current roster. A marque player is the answer...the next Kobe or LaBron. Someone the fans will get excited to see play that is not wearing a visitor's uniform.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:05 PM
I am truly a Bobcats Season Ticket Holder for the last 5 years. They Sent out Renewal packets last week. Then called me this week to see when I would submit my form for renewal. I told my ticket agent that I will not renew unless I know for a fact the Hornets Name would be back. In the nicest way possible he told me that it was unlikely I would know that by the time the renewal packet is due (before I loose my current seat which I am fond of). So as of today I am not sure what I will do. Do I go ahead and reup one more year and see if the name changes happens, or just cut my losses and stick to my guns?
- February 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM
"He who passes judjement on their fellow mans intellect, only expose their own intellectual insecurities"
Annonymous 2013
- February 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM
To me personally, it isn't about the product on the court. When the Hornet's came, it brought out the teal color, and those Alexander Jullian uniforms were the bomb. Hugo was the best mascot in the league, appealing to the young and old. I want the name and colors back, and bring the hive alive!
I'm not sure if changing the name also gets us our history back...I'm thinking that stays with the franchise in New Orleans. But we were lucky in the lottery back when we were able to get Larry Johnson and Alonzo Mourning....maybe the name change can change our luck on lottery night as well this time around.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM
I either want the Hornets or another name entirely.
Can we just get this Bobcats era behind us? There is nothing memorable about it that I would tell my children, except all the bad memories.
we need a new name that we can actually rally around to go with this "new era" we're creating player-wise
- February 26, 2013 at 4:16 PM
To those who keep saying "it wont change the product on the court."
omg no one actually thinks changing the name will directly change our win column.
We just want a name we can actually support! Like a nickname that applies to our city. It's not like we have a ton of tradition with "Bobcats", unless you mean a tradition of losing and lack of fan support.
I'd much rather support a bad Hornets team than bad Bobcats team. But here's to hoping we can change our name to go along with changing our product on the court.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:20 PM
How can you not change to Hornets. Anything else is an insult.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:25 PM
"Michael Jordan does not have the intellectual intelligence to write such a column. Just listen to him talk and anyone would know he does not have command of the English language to write such a column. Come on....who is he kidding??????"........you ever heard of a publicist?
- February 26, 2013 at 4:27 PM
He is changing it to Hornets. Probably the easiest decision he will ever make.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:27 PM
- MIKe said...
I am a proud Bobcat fan. I like the name. If you dont like the name and you really want to have a voice and matter in the discussion BUY SEASON TICKETS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY. They are not going to listen to people posting online claiming they will buy tickets. Put your money where your mouth is and make it happen.
As a native Charlottean, I really enjoyed the Charlotte Hornets but people are looking at the history incorrectly. We werent very good as the Hornets either. Yes we made the playoffs a couple times but the only playoff series we won was in 1992 and then we only made it to the 2nd round. Muggsy was overrated. LJ was really good for us, then he got hurt and we let him go. The best player we had was Alonzo and we were too cheap to pay the man. We traded Kobe Bryant for an old center from eastern Europe who smoked during halftime. Way to glamorize a team with 0 Hall of Famers. This town is contempt with losing. Dont forget about the Derrick Coleman days. Those were great.
The Hornets left mainly bc the City didnt care about them enough to build them a new arena, why do you care so much now?
I miss Bob Johnson, at least he would write the big checks to bring people to us. Yea he treated the city bad but the current ownership group comes off as cheap to a season ticket holder. My children have been raised as Bobcats fans, why are your memories more important than ours?
- February 26, 2013 at 4:29 PM
As a Bobcats fan who has endured the pain of the past, I'd feel a little cheated if I never got the chance to see the BOBCATS team I've invested so much time into following succeed.
That said, I'll follow the team regardless, and really don't understand why the name of the team matters so much to some...
- February 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM
I think more than anything this team needs an identity. They need something the city of Charlotte and get behind and root for. Believe it or not most people are not idiots, and do realize changing the name will not result in a better team. It will result in a since of community and a connection with the team. When you walk into a bobcats game I'd say only 1 out of 4 people is wearing anything Bobcats related and who can blame them? Charlotte fans were proud to wear the Hornets colors and proud to support their team. Is anybody really proud to call the Bobcats their team? This city and this state love the game of basketball and are dying for a reason to support the game and their team again.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:37 PM
"monthly column"...? Uuuuh, this is only the third column in over a year, nothing monthly about it.
Folks he just told you he's not switching the name. Bob Dylan didn't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blew, nor do we need a "national polling company" (talk about a waste of money) to assess changing the name to Hornets. There is just no way the feedback is "mixed", change the name to Hornets already! As usual, he just doesn't want to spend the money.
I get a kick out of this quote from December -- "My expectation is for us to get better each and every day. I'm not looking for a certain number of wins; I'm looking for improvement...".
HUH? MJ, this isn't little league soccer where score isn't kept!
Those letters are lame, lots of talk, zero action.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:38 PM
Doesn't help him to play it any other way until they decide.
- February 26, 2013 at 4:44 PM
The city of Charlotte should purchase the Hornet name, so, when Jordan moves the team in a few years, the name will stay!
- February 26, 2013 at 4:52 PM
If you change the name, I will grant you the number one pick in the draft.
...David Stern
- February 26, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Jordan will change the name and it will be another good move since he bought the team. Hiring Cho, opening up cap space, securing draft picks, drafting Kemba. Keep it going....
- February 26, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Switch the name to Hornets and then switch the Hounds to the Bobcats. Anything is better than Hounds. That is just lame.
- February 26, 2013 at 5:27 PM
I like the Hornets and I don't mind the Cats. But if you want to move into the 21st Century and also pull from our heritage, the name should be FLIGHT. Charlotte Flight taps into our rich heritage at Kitty Hawk, our ever expanding international airport, and reminds us of Michael's greatness when he defied gravity as a player. My vote is for Charlotte Flight.
- February 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM
It has to be HORNETS!!
- February 26, 2013 at 6:26 PM
I don't know whether or not they would gain fans by changing the name to "Hornets", but I am sure they would lose some fans if they didn't!
- February 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM
At the end of the day, there is more hatred for the current name, and more love for the Hornets. I actually don't care, but think the decision should be easy for this team. The people who like the Cats name will come regardless, the Hornet people will stop all together.
- February 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM
Flight? Seriously? That is ridiculous. The Hornets is there for the taking. The name should have never been allowed to leave. Now it is miraculously available. You don't pass on that.
- February 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM
As someone that was born here and raised here, I cannot understand why Jordan would keep the Bobcats name. I grew up loving two teams, the Hornets and the Bulls. I am sure you understand why I loved both. Each for different reasons. I am a participant in The BeeLieve motion going around. I am sure Jordan polled his season ticket holders, I am not one, and received mixed reviews about the name change. The problem is he already has those people's money. He needs to fill the rest of the arena and in order to do this, he needs to bring the Hornets back. People boycott the Bobcats because of the previous owner. Jordan needs a fresh start to unveil a new team and to do this he needs the name changed. Everyone knows he will make his 3-4 million back in merchandise sales within the first few months. I think it is a win win situation. If we could only convince the higher ups and Jordan.
- February 26, 2013 at 8:24 PM
- RobNClt said...
I have a great idea, those us who would like to change the name should offer to put money toward changing it. I know in a city this size those of us who truly want the name change can come up with enough money from out pockets to do it.
What do you guys say?
- February 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM
- Patrick said...
- February 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Its a matter of civic pride. I do respect and even share in some of the nostalgia for the Hornets name. Let me point out however, they never won a championship, left town under suspect circumstances and were discarded by their new host city. Jordan should not expend precious resources trying to breathe life into a brand with limited national appeal. I concede the name of the team could be more aligned with Charlotte history but who wants to watch the "Resolves" or "Declarations" play the Pelicans?
- February 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM
I think he should change the name to the "Charlotte Air". N.C. is first in flight. U.S. Airways has it's biggest hub at charlotte douglas international airport. And Jordan is "Air Jordan." The logo will be the Air Jordan logo.
I dunno if Nike owns the right to Air Jordan but maybe they can be a sponsor and we can change the arena to "US Airways Arena"
Everyone will buy merchandise!
- February 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Thinking of becoming a season ticket holder......
Lets face it, people like to support winners. It does not matter if their names are the bobcats or hornets. What matters the most are they winning. Yes, the hornets brand is more iconic but is a name change going to make the team win. There need to be more community involvement by the team to get support behind this team. I am looking for a reason to support the home tea.
- February 27, 2013 at 12:25 AM
Does it matter if we change the name that's not gonna help us win games. People only wear the Charlotte Hornets stuff because of the colors. It's been a long time and the Charlotte Hornets name should be retired. We need to establish something new for the city.
- February 27, 2013 at 12:42 AM
All this talk of the team polling to see if they should change the name is unnecessary. Its just a waste of money if they are really doing polling. Anyone with common sense would know that changing the name back to the Hornets would bring in more money to the team. The team would have a better chance of marketing its product if they became the Hornets again. I live in NYC and I see more hornets gear being worn than Bobcats. I'm talking about Charlotte Hornets gear not the New Orleans Hornets at that. Nobody wears the Bobcats gear except probably in Charlotte for the games. MJ knows marketing since he pretty much markets his brand and himself so I'm sure he knows this change would be alot more profitable than it would be if he keeps the name as the Bobcats. I hope someone in the teams marketing department is informing him of this. If not then they should be fired cause they aren't help this team make money.
- February 27, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Unfortunately this franchise from day one has been about finance and money. Realisically MJ just can't compete with the Billionaire owners in the league which means anything that affects the bottom line will NOT HAPPEN. For this reason the "Charlotte Bobjohnsoncats" will not be changing their name. You Watch!!!!
- February 27, 2013 at 1:15 AM
- RedAndBlack said...
I have supported the Bobcats through thick and thin. I have made memories at Bobcats games. The reason I've made memories is the great arena, and experiencing a playoff game for the first time in 7 years. The BOBCATS name and branding have nothing to do with that, the Hornets branding would bring the team to the forefront of my sports fandom. I'm sure that someone who is only a Bobcats fan would quickly become a Hornets fan, but MANY, MANY exHornets fans are merely Observers of the team, watching the team from a far with little emotion towards the team or the NBA. MJ knows how to work a crowd... Just like a WWE face he is hiding his announcement in a few words. In order to save face, he must bring back the Bugs.
- February 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM
Maybe the city will buy the name with taxes on groceries!
- February 27, 2013 at 8:01 AM
All of you that say the Hornets name has history here need to make sure you understand that the history of the old Hornets team does not come back with the name. So many of you do not know that and you are basing your opinion on wanting all of the history and nostalgia back from the "old days" (14 years' worth, which not much history at all) but you aren't going to get it with changing the name to the Hornets. You can't hang any of the old players jerseys from the rafters and you don't have the wins, playoffs or anything else. The teams history would still start with Emeka Okafor as the 2nd pick overall in the 2004 draft in. In the history it will still show that Bob Johnson owned the team, they will have played one year in the old coliseum and so far 8 years in the Uptown Arena. If they are going back for history's sake let's change the name back to the Cougars or better yet make new history and just keep the name of the Bobcats. Besides, if the Bobcats were winning no one would be saying anything about this, if they change the name and the team still isn't winning then what do we build a new arena and start all over with that too? Oh and FYI there are actually Bobcats in the Carolina's who the team was actually named after similarly to your beloved Panthers…
- February 27, 2013 at 8:34 AM
I believe the name HORNETS should be brought back. It was a symbol of great pride for the city as well as the fans. The mascot was loved by all and they had a really cool player introduction scene with the hive at the top of the arena. I loved going to the games but I have not been since the Boobcats (oops Bobcats) have been here in the city. Not to mention that the old HORNET merchandise still to this day outsells the bobcats logo stuff. That should tell MJ all he needs to know. Hope he makes the right decision so I can be a NBA fan again in Charlotte.
- February 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM
I find the comments about money being a factor hilarious in his decision! Jordan spent 14 million on Gordon just to get another 1st round pick for the team. Pay attention people.
With that said. Go Hornets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- February 27, 2013 at 8:58 AM
- Fritz Smith said...
"Anonymous said...
It looks like once again my point is proven. "The Bobcats have sucked every year they have been in existence lets just forget this horrible product that has been in our city for ten years." So do you really think a name change will change the product.....NO! If the team were winning, you would not hear much of this if at all. As far as the merchandise sales, from my understanding, that revenue is split up amongst the teams so the Bobcats/Hornets would see no difference. If you just dont like the name is one thing but if you want to do it because you think will change the product on the court which most people do, you are just fundamentally wrong."
Which means...Let's also go ahead and shut down Madison Ave because Marketing, Advertising and Shaping the Message mean nothing.
- February 27, 2013 at 9:08 AM
Absolutely no one is dumb enough to think changing the name will change the product. You can still advocate for a name change even though you understand it won't change performance.
Actually the real morons are the people that bring this up like Fritz Smith. The closest a guy like this comes to Madison Ave is a monopoly board.
- February 27, 2013 at 9:38 AM
All of the comments against changing the name are just dumb.
1. It won't help us win. Really? All of the people that want the name changed thought that everyone would lay down and give us victories when they saw Hornets on the uniforms.
2. I have bought Bobcats Merchandise. Really? Your wearing an Emeka Okafor Jersey from 9 seasons ago that is2 sizes too small and the team has changed jersey's twice since then. ( You need to buy a new jersey, no matter what the name is)
3. The people that want the name change should pay for it. I would gladly assemble a group of investors that would pay the $3M Dollars as long as we also got to keep the incremental merchandise revenue that will result from the switch. We aren't asking MJ to do this just because we want it. We think that it creates more revenue for the team.
4. The History of the Hornets left when the team did. 1st off the History of the Hornets in Charlotte goes back over 200 years and this was not George Shinn's name that he gave Charlotte. The Hornets are Charlotte's name that we gave Shinn. Now it's available and we want it back. Secondly, All those great moments happened in Charlotte, those attendance banners were the results of Charlotte fans attending games and they belong to the fans of Charlotte.
@ Fritz Smith- you correct that Merchandise Revenue is split evenly but, would you rather split $30 Million evenly or $60 Million evenly? The Hornets brand would grow the total revenue pie.
@ Anonymous 8:34 AM. How naive are you to believe that the team was named the Bobcats because of the Huge Bobcat population in North Carolina? Give me a break. You don't think the name "Bobcats" were given the name because they were "Bob's Cat's"?
- February 27, 2013 at 9:43 AM
This team is horrible and the Bobcats name is now linked to the worst records ever. So with that being said let's assume you are an utter fool if you don't give up the name.
Now the Hornets name has tons of Buzz (literally) and folks are eneergized again by it.
I don't understand why this is even a decision or discussion. And yes season ticket holder last 5 years and sooooo ready to drop this name.
- February 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM
It's a no brainer to switch to Hornets.
The only arguments I hear from Bobcats name supporters are revenue sharing, the Hornets left along time ago, and people should support the team no matter what the name is.
1) Yes the NBA has a revenue sharing model. Only merchandise sold at the team store goes directly to the team everything else is split. I don't know the numbers but I would guess that Charlotte Hornets gear would out sell Charlotte Bobcats 10x or more worldwide. It would be easy to assume that the other 29 owners would be for the change for this reason alone. The team store would probably do 1.5x more business, bringing in some additional revenue to the team.
2) The Hornets did leave in 2002. The city led the NBA in attendance for almost a decade. Yes there were empty arenas at the end, but Shinn already had his bags packed and the team half way out the door. Nobody wants to support a franchise where the owner was holding fans hostage (... take note Jerry Richardson). Charlotte never lost love for the Hornets, the city lost love for George Shinn. Bringing the name back will bring so much goodwill and will help right a Shinn's wrong especially in the eyes of many Hornets fans. Anyone who doesn't believe the change will attract many old fans back really has their head in the sand.
3)Die-hard basketball fans will support the team no matter the name. I go to several Bobcats games a year and am invested in the team as bad as they are (...even stayed up to watch them get blown out by the Clippers last night). The team doesn't need the support of NBA fans, they cheer for the players and will come to the game even if the team is call the Flamingos. The team needs the support of the fringe fan. Again the Hornets name has a sense of nostalgia and goodwill that will attract more of those fans. It's safe to say that a name change would attract 2000 to 3000 extra fans to the first few games. The team is improving and game day at the arena is fun. If the team can retain 800 extra fans a game, who spend $50/each, the change will be paid for in less than 2 seasons. This does not even include additional revenue from increased corporate partners and sponsorship which will result from a Hornets affiliation. This is where the real $$ are and an increase in these could pay for the change alone even before the season starts.
- February 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Charlotte Flight. 'Nuf said.
- February 27, 2013 at 11:25 AM
I have been a season ticket holder since day one and I prefer that the team remains the Bobcats. I loved the Hornets when they were here but they stiffed us and left for New Orleans. Why bring back the name? Bobcats is a great nickname - let's keep it. If teams changed nicknames just because they were bad, every team in the league would have changed their name several times!
- February 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Eh. This is just a Jedi mind trick. Jordan planted a seed to see how passionate people are about this name by saying the comments are mixed. He knows that more people will prefer Hornets. I'm actually just anxious for the whole thing to be decided one way or the other. Tired of hearing it debated.
- February 27, 2013 at 1:56 PM
It's been covered before, but the name change has nothing to do with the product on the court. Everyone realizes that. So, take that argument out of the equation and look at the rest of the picture.
For those of you who are ambivalent about a name change, pay attention to all the Hornets supporters who say they will increase their interest because of the Hornets name. You can count me in that group. I watch the Bobcats on TV when I can and have been to a handful of games in their history. I would say I'm a Bobcats fan, but obviously not a diehard fan like I am for the Panthers and used to be for the Hornets.
Changing to the Hornets name would instantly increase my interest whether the team got any better or not. Read that again: I would become a bigger fan EVEN IF the team was still bad.
It's about pride. Nobody has any pride in the Bobcats name because it doesn't mean anything to us. It doesn't mean anything to or about Charlotte. It's just a name - and a bad one at that.
The Hornets name is deeply rooted in Charlotte history. It's a name we're proud of, and it's a name we've proven we will support. Throw out the final years when Shinn and Wooldridge were searching to move the team. When the Hornets franchise was loyal to this city and its fans, we were fiercely loyal to it. And, we've always been loyal to the Hornets name, even if Shinn ruined our feelings about the previous team/franchise.
Bring back the buzz!
- February 27, 2013 at 1:58 PM
One name even weaker than Bobcats...Flight. Bobcats name is just plain embarrassing. Changing back to Hornets is a no brainer, shouldn't even be a discussion.
- February 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM
How many of you so'called fans are really going to start going to the games when they change the name??None of you, This is a dumb topic.
- February 28, 2013 at 12:24 AM
How about the 45ers ?
- February 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM
- Unknown said...
If the name is whats important, then you're not a true fan, and we dont need you. Its not a game of names. If we were a winning team, youd love the Bobcats. Were not, and changing the name wont make us. Grow up, get over it, we are the Bobcats now. Shinn crapped out on us, why want that back. Where were all you Hornets supporters when the Hive was EMOTY in the last years? Were you all fans of the New Orleans Hornets? If not, Why? You are only a fan when its in town? Franchise fans are franchise fans. That of which you are not. You are all wanna bee fans. If you want the Hornets, save your money and buy a franchise. Stop trying to take away a name some of us dont mind the same way George Shinn did. Do you understand that? You would be taking away something from others to get what you want. How is that fair? If you like basketball like you claim, you wouldnt care if the name was the Charlotte Orange Cones. Its Basketball. Last game I went to, I saw this wanna be thug dressed in all Hornets gear. Looked like he stepped out of 93'. Horrible fashion then, horrible fashion now. Its Purple and Teal. What matches Prurple and teal on a daily basis? We may as well bring back the 12" rims on Civics.
- March 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM
What's MJ's email address?? I have some things to say to him! For one thing, it's too bad he wasn't here in NC while the Hornets were here, maybe then he'd understand how much we all loved and supported them. For another, using $$ as an excuse is ridiculous. You gotta spend $$ to make $$, and I can't imagine he's making too much off the team right now with the lack of support the city is showing. But imagine how much he'll make when everyone starts buying brand new Hornets gear and actually showing up for the games!!
- March 4, 2013 at 12:22 PM
mj needs to change this name the hornets mean something to north carolina its part of our history i mean if mj cant even get a name change right then what good is he
- April 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM
ALL the National Polls + Local polls in the NC/SC region have been overwhelmingly in favor of changing the name to the CHARLOTTE HORNETS. Jordan saying the results of their due diligence,polling being mixed is nothing but a wash. Jordan is just to tight on his money to put a competitive team on the court or to change the name to the Charlotte Hornets. If Jordan will not give the fans a competitive team + plus the nickname HORNETS, then he just needs to sell the team. There is no excuse for this franchise being the joke that it is. BRING BACK THE BUZZ!!!!!! BRING BACK THE HORNETS!!!!!! Or just sell the team to someone who will.
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Fantasy owners are probably in the same boat as the players they own – tired and ready for a few days off to step back and look at their game. There will be 12 games tonight and then the usual light Thursday night, and then we'll be smack in the middle of All Star weekend with the trade deadline the following week. If you haven't checked out our Trade Deadline Kickoff or Adam Levitan's top-10 trade candidates, put them on your required reading list. We'll have more of that as we go here, and this week is the time that owners should try to plot out the rest of their season without the distraction of nightly games. Believe it or not we'll be 3/4s of the way through the season here shortly, so owners looking to make an impact need to speak now or forever hold their peace.
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Andre Iguodala (neck) and Danilo Gallinari (sinus infection) were both late scratches for last night's game, and both will have a shot to play in tonight's game against the Nets by the most recent reports. Wilson Chandler (hip) did not play and one has to think his status for tonight's game is in jeopardy as the team probably wants to get him as much rest as possible. JaVale McGee aggravated his left tibia injury and he sounds like a guy that will rest tonight. Kosta Koufos (eight points, 10 boards, two steals, one block, 20 minutes) will get a slight boost if McGee can't go.
Anthony Randolph could have scored 100 points and thrown a Steve Nebraska 81-pitch perfect game on the same night and I still would have lit the box score on fire after rolling up dog poo with it. Needless to say since he only scored 16 points with a full stat line I'll still be pretending that he doesn't exist. Jordan Hamilton doesn't deserve the theatrics, but the sentiment is the same after he put up seven points, five boards, two steals, and two blocks. Ty Lawson predictably scored 29 points with nine assists and three steals with Iguodala out, and Corey Brewer (nine points) could not take advantage of the open minutes.
Rudy Gay (17 points, 6-of-14 FGs, four rebounds, three assists, three steals, 25 minutes) struggled in the second half last night and dealt with some foul trouble, but he continued to make Bryan Colangelo look good with another game-winner last night. Owners can't expect him to post the gaudy early numbers, but this doesn't feel like a sell-high moment, even if eventually Kyle Lowry (4-of-10 FGs, 11 points, 10 assists) might start shooting ball more than he has been recently. DeMar DeRozan kept his foot on the gas with 22 points, eight rebounds, three assists, two steals, and one block, and I'd expect some of his touches to also migrate toward Lowry over the long-term.
A stash favorite of mine, Jonas Valanciunas has been getting positive marks lately and while nobody will write home about his eight points, eight boards, and two steals, he played 32 minutes and is still worth owning standard formats. Andrea Bargnani returned from his one-game absence due to the flu and had just four points and one rebound in 18 minutes. If you own him you've come this far and you'll probably want to just stash him and see what happens at the trade deadline. If you absolutely have to drop him, I'd understand, as there are a number of ways he could spin sideways for owners.
The Blazers started off strong but fizzled in a loss to the Heat, but Damian Lillard still managed to show his dominance with 33 points on 10-of-18 shooting, though he only managed one rebound and three assists in the rest of his line. J.J. Hickson (13 minutes, five points, zero rebounds) was benched against the Heat's quicker lineup, though admittedly one has to wonder if he got a case of South Beach fever. It's not like his backups profile any better. Regardless, owners should just dust themselves off and hope for a bounce back tonight against the Hornets.
Nicolas Batum hit just 2-of-5 shots for five points, two rebounds, four assists, two blocks, and five turnovers in 39 minutes. The All Star break can't come soon enough and owners should be rooting for him to take a game off on either side of it, just so he can get himself right. LaMarcus Aldridge added 29 points with just five boards and no steals or blocks in the loss.
LeBron James became the first NBA player to score 30 points and hit more than 60 percent of his shots in six straight games, finishing with 30 points, six rebounds, nine assists, three steals, two blocks, and a three on 11-of-15 shooting. Many of us have been screaming for him to develop a post-game, and that's exactly what's at the root of his separation from the pack. He has total control of his game at every spot on the floor. Good luck with that everyone. Dwyane Wade added 24 points, nine boards, seven assists, a steal, and two blocks, and Chris Bosh scored 32 points on 13-of-16 shooting with 11 rebounds and two steals in an easy win over the Blazers.
The Kings were coming off a powerful, fan-inspired weekend full of wins as they went into Memphis, where they have struggled mightily. They were looking great with Isaiah Thomas metering out the touches until Keith Smart happened. He turned to Aaron Brooks, who wasn't awful but it screwed with the rhythm of the team and put another bad defender on the floor. The Kings eventually lost when Smart went with Brooks for the whole fourth quarter, and that resulted in a night of Dr. A and I talking about whether Smart or Lindsay Hunter is the worst coach in the NBA right now. I think Smart is one of the worst coaches in NBA history, and we both agree that these guys are setting standards for awfulness. The crazy thing is that there are actually people near the team that don't understand that Thomas needed to be given the keys to the team last year. It's mind boggling.
As for the game Thomas had 11 points, three assists, and a steal, Tyreke Evans scored 20 points with seven rebounds and three assists, DeMarcus Cousins scored 23 points with seven rebounds, four assists, and five steals, John Salmons got 30 developmental minutes en route to two points, three rebounds, two assists, one steal, and one block, Jason Thompson scored 15 points with six boards and a steal, and Marcus Thornton scored 15 points on 4-of-12 shooting with three treys and a steal. Thompson looks to be back to his original form before Smart started messing with him, and the same is true of Thornton. As long as Smart doesn't go back to his Achilles' heel of a point guard rotation, then there is a chance the Kings start to settle in with more clear roles – but as we saw tonight the goodwill created this weekend was all but erased when Smart couldn't get out of his own way.
Mike Conley has been a bit of a ghost in fantasy leagues this month, but he feasted on poor Kings rotations and the like on his way to 22 points on 6-of-12 shooting (2-of-4 3PTs, 8-of-8 FTs) with seven assists, one steal, and one block. With Rudy Gay out he profiles to finish the season strong. Tony Allen took advantage of the Kings' lax defense with 19 points on 8-of-12 shooting, eight rebounds, three assists, two steals, and one block. With Gay out of town he profiles a bit better than he did before, but he's still fighting to stay owned in standard 12-team formats. Give him a look, but keep expectations in check.
Marc Gasol went for 24 and 12 with two assists and a block, and Zach Randolph went for 13 and nine. Jerryd Bayless has regressed back to the real mean of his value curve, scoring six points on 2-of-7 shooting with three assists in 24 minutes. He'll likely average numbers between tonight's outing and some of his bigger outings last week.
The Thunder played on edge last night and left Energy Solutions Arena with a loss, as Kevin Durant (33 points, six rebounds, five assists, four steals, three treys) ended up mocking the Jazz fans after the game. He threw a cheap shoulder into Alec Burks defending on a fast break and got a Flagrant-1 foul after he didn't get a few calls on the offensive side, and for now I like this ornery version of KD. Russell Westbrook had seven turnovers to go with his 22 points on 8-of-14 shooting and five assists, and Serge Ibaka had 10 points and seven blocks but just three rebounds. Kevin Martin (flu) returned to action and had just six points and no threes. I'm not reading much into anybody's performances tonight.
Randy Foye left the game with a quad injury but returned and finished with 11 points, two assists, and two threes in 23 minutes. He should be able to play tonight but so close to the All Star break owners should be paying close attention. Paul Millsap scored 18 points with 10 rebounds, six assists, and two steals, Al Jefferson scored 23 points with a full line, and Derrick Favors scored 15 points with just three boards and a block in 22 minutes off the bench. If one of the bigs gets traded, the remaining guys along with Enes Kanter will all be hot commodities.
As mentioned, the Suns are making the Kings look like a beacon of basketball wisdom. Alvin Gentry was having problems with everybody and Lindsay Hunter looks to be picking right up where Gentry left off, as nobody is happy, nobody has a clear role, and Michael Beasley is being forced into action. According to some sources, one of the reasons for Gentry's firing was that he wouldn't play B-Easy. Nobody is producing, and it's yet another case of an NBA coach and/or management getting in its own way, as Goran Dragic (seven points, six assists), Jared Dudley (10 points, five boards, two steals), Marcin Gortat (four points, seven rebounds, one steal , 21 minutes) and Luis Scola (15 points, 11 boards, four steals) are all relatively proven NBA players and they're nowhere near consistency.
P.J. Tucker (13 points, four rebounds, five assists, one steal, two blocks) is getting heavy minutes and despite tonight's solid numbers I haven't seen anything to justify the heavy run, while Jermaine O'Neal (12 points, 13 rebounds, four assists, one steal, five blocks) has been used as a primary option when healthy. The only problem is that O'Neal is only healthy in spurts, and it gets at Gortat when O'Neal's number is called and his isn't. Shannon Brown (four minutes) tweaked an ankle and did not finish the game but he's as much a problem to the offense as anybody with his poor basketball IQ and inability to pass. If I were coaching I'd see to it that Dragic, Dudley, Scola, and Gortat got the bulk of the team's touches, with everybody else filling in the gaps, but then again I didn't sign Beasley to a big money deal so I don't understand the pressures to play the guy.
Kobe Bryant is cracking me up and the Lakers' train wreck is more fodder for talk shows than it is real basketball talk these days. Kobe decided he wasn't going to shoot last night, finishing with four points on 1-of-8 shooting with five rebounds, nine assists, one steal, one block, and eight turnovers. He's clearly trying to make a point about his teammates, and may be forcing them to become more assertive, but at the end of the day it's all comedy. The Lakers are such a mess that they're taking to Kobe experiments against road kill like the Suns, who they almost lost to.
Steve Nash scored 10 points with eight assists, Dwight Howard went for 19 and 18 with a steal and two blocks, Metta World Peace continued to shoot poorly with 17 points on 6-of-16 FGs with eight rebounds, four steals, and one block, Earl Clark (foot) played and finished with 11 points, four rebounds, three steals, and one trey, and Antawn Jamison scored 19 points with 10 rebounds, two threes and a block in 33 minutes off the bench.
Jamison should be owned in all formats even if he doesn't project to be consistent. If you want to sell Dwight Howard and his shoulder/drama concerns high, this is probably your best moment. Clark should be held through the break as his foot gets a nice break, and both he and Jamison should get the run of the yard for the second half of the year.
Pau Gasol won't need surgery on his torn plantar fascia, but his 6-8 week minimum timetable isn't changing and how the Lakers season goes will dictate a lot of that timetable in my opinion.
The Rockets went into Golden State looking for blood after the Warriors whined up a storm following Houston's dismantling of them last week. James Harden played through a sore left knee and then rolled his ankle badly during the game, but after leaving for a brief moment he returned and finished with 27 points, seven rebounds, five assists, and three steals. He hit just 7-of-22 shots (2-of-8 3PTs, 11-of-11 FTs) and was clearly hobbled, and there are conflicting reports about his status for tonight's game. If I had to bet I'd say he won't go, but anything is possible with the All Star break looming. Jeremy Lin went for 14 and 10 against his old team, Omer Asik went for 13 and 15, Chandler Parsons scored 21 points with eight rebounds, nine assists, one steal, one block, and three treys, Carlos Delfino scored 10 points with two threes, a steal, and a block, and Patrick Patterson put up his typically mediocre 12 points, two rebounds, and one block. Nothing to see here, other than a team making early season hype about the Warriors look silly.
This is why I would not get hyped. The Warriors lost their fifth game in a row last night and this was a statement game against a team in the Rockets that the Warriors got all hot and bothered against last week. The problem is that the Warriors suck defensively and they're too busy as an organization patting themselves on the back to realize they have significant problems on the side of the court where championships are won.
David Lee (12 points, 3-of-10 FGs, 12 rebounds, four assists, one block) is a below average player on nights in which he isn't going for 20, 10, and five, and in a real analytical world that includes defense he'd have never made the All Star ballot let alone the team. He's that bad. Andrew Bogut (six points, 12 rebounds, four assists, one block, 27 minutes) wasn't much better on that side of the floor, but he decided to take his teammates to task for their bad defensive play – and that ridiculousness is sure to go over well when everybody looks at Bogut getting his hat handed to him on tape.
Stephen Curry (27 points, five rebounds, six assists) and Klay Thompson (22 points, 9-of-21 FGs, one steal, one block, one three) are great offensive players, but together they are a sieve on defense and no amount of Jarrett Jack (22 points, five assists, four threes, shoulder injury) leadership or Draymond Green (nine points, two steals, one block, 17 minutes) grit is going to change that.
Carl Landry (two points, four rebounds, 20 minutes) can help in the sense that he's not a total zero on the defensive end of the floor, and he doesn't shy from contact the way Lee does, but he isn't clogging the lane. I'd like to think Bogut can regain some standing on the defensive side of the floor, but he looks slow, soft, and unsure where he should be standing. Some guys get by on their physical talents and when that goes they're stuck. Bogut is creeping dangerously into that territory, injury or not.
The second opinion that Larry Sanders got on his back was precautionary according to mysterious, oft-accurate beat writer Gery Woelfel. Sam Amick also reported a week ago that the injury wasn't serious, though that didn't account for the new reality that Sanders is still in pain. Second opinions are always huge red flags but the timing of the All Star break and the fact that back injuries often require specialists are mitigating factors here. Sanders doesn't sound like he'll be playing tonight, and while owners shouldn't panic they should be watching the news closely. I wouldn't discount any more than a round of his value in a sell-now deal, and owners willing to gamble have a small window here to try to poach him from a panicky owner.
There seems to be a war brewing in Chicago over Derrick Rose's return from knee surgery. On one hand, national writers have been getting interviews over local guys and laying the foundation for a return on or after March 1. The local guys are being shut out, prompting Chicago Tribune columnist David Haugh and his colleagues to start floating the idea that Rose's marketing team is holding him out longer than he should be. It's all very interesting, but the idea for stashers of Rose has always been the same. Only do it if you can afford to do it and be ready for anything, because whoever it is – the team, the player, or his handlers – they're all going to play it safe.
ATL @ ORL: The Spurs expressed some degree of interest in Josh Smith, but not enough to change the dynamics of his situation. They would, however, represent one of those depth-driven scenarios I wrote about in our Trade Deadline kickoff that would be damaging to his value. The Spurs have no shortage of producers to cut into his value. Will rookies Andrew Nicholson and Mo Harkless stay on the fantasy radar? I have Nicholson stashed in one 12-team league, and if he can survive the next few weeks he profiles well in the season's last month.
SA @ CLE: Byron Scott took up for Tyler Zeller yesterday, but one has to wonder how long the rookie's leash will be if he keeps struggling. Stephen Jackson has been out for a personal issue and is questionable for tonight, as is Tiago Splitter after he rolled his ankle in Monday's game (he finished it out). Tim Duncan (knee) and Manu Ginobili (hamstring) are both questionable and I'd call them doubtful until the next report. Kyrie Irving (ankle) could be moved from the injury report in advance of tonight's game and I wouldn't have a problem with it. We moved him there as a precaution but he was dunking and taking extra 3-point shooting practice so it would be a shock if he didn't play tonight.
CHA @ IND: We might get to see Danny Granger's debut tonight, and owners may want to look at other options on a busy 12-game night even if he does go. David West (eye) is expected to play but as is the case with many injuries right now owners should check back for updates. Will the Byron Mullens experience continue against a tough Indy backcourt? He's been playing with a mean streak lately and I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Dunlap specifically tried to hammer home the message that he needs to play more down low.
TOR @ NY: Tyson Chandler (ankle) is expected to play tonight, but at this time of the year nothing is a lock. I'll also be watching Jason Kidd to see if he can put up another Kidd-like line. Especially if Iman Shumpert continues to struggle, Kidd could carve out a few weeks of value on the other side of the All Star break.
DEN @ BKY: GM Billy King said that Deron Williams lacks explosion this year, and also that he took Clubber Lang a bit too lightly. We have him marked as sidelined so keep an eye out for his status.
CHI @ BOS: Joakim Noah says his plantar fasciitis is bothering him but there is no indication that he won't play tonight. Noah loves himself some KG but at this time of year owners should be watching for last second DNPs. Kirk Hinrich (elbow) didn't even travel with the team so it will be the Nate Robinson show again. Leandro Barbosa is out for the year with a torn ACL, which gives a handful of minutes to Courtney Lee, Avery Bradley and Jason Terry.
WAS @ DET: Bradley Beal said his shooting wrist felt a lot better, and after his big Monday he should be owned in all formats, even if I'll be watching to see what happens when Jordan Crawford gets out of the doghouse. The Piston to watch is Charlie Villanueva, who fizzled after a big post-Andre Drummond injury performance. That down game was just one game, and while I'm generally not high on Villanueva the player owners should be ready to move if he puts up another big line. Somebody has to play in that third big man role for the Pistons.
PHI @ MIL: Andrew Bynum said yesterday that he didn't know if the pain in his knee was due to a setback or general discomfort. Suhweet. It wouldn't be surprising to see him sit out the whole year and he's all-but certain not to play in February. Monta Ellis missed practice on Tuesday after a fender bender but we haven't heard anything to suggest he won't go tonight.
UTA @ MIN: Nikola Pekovic walked with trainers to the locker room after Monday's game and Rick Adelman thought he may have been hit in the head. Nobody is treating this like a serious issue but I figured I'd throw it out there as something to watch for. Gordon Hayward (shoulder) will be held out through the All Star break, which isn't surprising, and it sounds like he's healing just fine. I'm adding/holding through the trade deadline. Mo Williams will have the pin removed from his shooting thumb today and will begin rehabbing, and in short I'll say that if your situation can handle a player that won't likely be productive until mid-March in a best case scenario then feel free to give him a look. The worst case is that he gets on the floor in April and shares the backcourt with a new acquisition at PG.
POR @ NO: Eric Gordon (back, knee) should be ready to return tonight, and if he can put up a big line then owners should already have their sell-now offers ready to go. Look for Anthony Davis to be assertive after getting benched the last time out. Monty Williams is giving the kid tough love, or his ankle is hurt more than he's letting on – it's one or the other – and Davis spent some extra time practicing yesterday. Williams tends to reward that sort of thing.
SAC @ DAL: Chris Kaman (concussion) is still having headaches, and the Mavs were just rumored to be interested in Brandon Jennings. Owners should actively be trying to sell Darren Collison.
HOU @ LAC: Caron Butler is hopeful to play tonight, but said his back didn't feel any better yesterday than it did when he hurt it on Monday. It sure sounds like another day off would make sense, and Matt Barnes would be a safe play in that event. Chauncey Billups is in the same boat, but his back issue doesn't sound as bad as Butler's.


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Justin James
When and why did you start training for fighting? When I was 19, I started training because I was looking to excel at something after wrestling my whole life. I took my first pro fight at 21 and have been competing off and on ever since. For the last six months I've really made it the full-time job that it is.
What ranks and titles have you held? I've been the Victory and Rocky Mountain lightweight champion.
Do you have any heroes? I've got a lot of sports heroes, but as far as personal heroes I would have to go with my mother, who I lost in February to a brain aneurysm. She basically molded me into who I am and taught me the value of hard work and dedication, which I plan on displaying in the UFC.
What is your favorite technique? The flying arm bar, because it makes your opponent look foolish when you catch them with it.
What does it mean for you to fight in the UFC? This is really a life long dream for me and my family. I have always worked two jobs and trained for the past ten years. About six months before my mom passed I had told her that I was going to go to the UFC and be the champion. I don't know that she completely believed me however I do know that she believed in me. And to finally get the opportunity to come to Vegas and perform is going to be great. And once I'm there I plan on taking it all the way.
Did you go to college and if so what degree did you earn? I went to college for aviation.
What was your job before you started fighting?In my last year in college I was hired as a Professional Firefighter in Council Bluffs. It's a job that I love and currently still work at. The City has been very supportive of my fighting and members of the City Council often travel to see me fight. There is talk that they will be in Vegas to support me in the UFC. I'm fortunate to come from a city where the population is around 60,000, but it is run very much like a small town and everyone is ready for my big win at the big show.
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Was looking through the MOTM threads the other day and thought of something that I think would be interesting. I know there are some hardcore gun whores around here, hopefully enough to be able to make a go at such a competition. Here's the angle. There are IMO, 4 types of Mags. Mechanical, E-Mag (electro), Pneu Mag, and Pump Mag. How about having a special MOTM, where entrys have to be able to cover all four categories? In otherwards, each person entering has to have one of each category and the judging/voting is on the group of markers offered up by each entry? If 4 is too many, perhaps we could reduce it to three, but each has to be from a different category... I would also say one of the ground rules is each marker has to be complete, including a barrel.
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With classification comes ranking. And competition. The Waynesboro Indians varsity baseball team has frontloaded the schedule with Quad-A opponents — with two more at the tail end of the season — in an effort to keep up with the Joneses in the District 3 power rankings.
WAYNESBORO — With classification comes ranking. And competition.
The Waynesboro Indians varsity baseball team has frontloaded the schedule with Quad-A opponents — with two more at the tail end of the season — in an effort to keep up with the Joneses in the District 3 power rankings.
So far, the Tribe is 1-2 in matchups with Class AAAA teams after a 7-5 setback to visiting Daniel Boone on Friday afternoon.
It didn't come without a fight, however, as the Blazers jumped out to a 4-0 lead but had to score two runs in the sixth inning and then rely on relief pitcher Justin Herring and the defense to preserve the non-league win at Indian Field.
"Four of our first five games I knew were going to be tough," said Waynesboro head coach Greg Chandler. "I thought we played good baseball in both (losses to AAAA teams). It's going to make us a little better."
The Indians opened the season with a 16-4 win over AAAA Chambersburg and lost to South Western, 7-1. Waynesboro's other two games against Quad-A teams are Spring Grove and New Oxford.
Chandler puts a premium on such games, especially now that the field for the District 3 playoffs has been pared down from 20 teams to 16. Moreover, the Commonwealth Division added a ninth team in 2013 (Mifflin County), adding another AAAA team to the District 3 list of teams vying for a post-season berth.
Classification weighs heavily in the complicated power rankings, which combines a team's weighted winning percentage and their opponents' weighted winning percentage. The TWWP is based on the results of all games a team plays. It values wins and losses by the classification of the opponent.
Waynesboro is the lone AAAA team of the Mid-Penn Colonial Division's seven teams. All other teams are Class AAA. There are 12 Quad-A teams in the Mid-Penn Conference and 36 AAAA teams in District 3.
In a game that featured eight total errors and Cole Warrenfeltz's fourth triple of the season, Daniel Boone threatened to run away with it from the start. The Blazers batted around in the top of the first, scoring four runs on four hits and leaving runners stranded at second and third after starting pitcher John Barr struck out Bryce Stout to end the eventful inning.
"I'm not displeased. If you take away the first inning, and if we could have put up a goose egg in their sixth inning, it would have been different," Chandler said. "They're a scrappy team and have some speed. We came up a couple hits shy."
Waynesboro got two runs back in the home first as Brandon Yurek singled and scored on Warrenfeltz's triple. Warrenfeltz scored on an error to make it 4-2.
The Blazers and Indians each scored a run in the second inning, and Waynesboro fought back to tie the game with solo runs in the third and fourth innings.
Neither team scored in the fifth frame, setting up a climactic sixth stanza in which Daniel Boone pushed across two runs to take the lead for good.
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Cast: Daniel Day-Lewis, Sally Field, Tommy Lee Jones, David Strathairn, Bruce McGill, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, James Spader, Jackie Earle Haley, John Hawkes and Tim Blake Nelson
Director: Steven Spielberg
Running time: 150 minutes
Rated: PG-13
The leading man's too short, barely suggesting the height that his contemporaries said made him "tower o'er other men."
And his voice, researched and accurate as it might be, is not the Abe Lincoln that's been inside our head for generations.
The actress they cast to play his wife is decades older than the woman she's portraying.
Ulysses S. Grant is a sharp-dressed redhead and, like Lincoln himself, is played by a Brit.
We don't get the whole of his life and career: the hardscrabble childhood, the hard-won election or even much of the civil war that election led to.
But Steven Spielberg's "Lincoln" is an elegiac turn from a filmmaker we thought was out of new tricks, a vivid, melancholy and meditative look at one of America's most revered presidents.
Daniel Day-Lewis gives us a very human flesh-and-blood Lincoln, weighed down by events but never at a loss for a funny story, rightfully lionized by history but flawed and willing to take political shortcuts to secure his place in history.
"Lincoln," using Doris Kearns Goodwin's "Team of Rivals" and other historical texts as its guide, zeroes in on the president and his quarrelsome cabinet and their race to amend the Constitution to ban slavery forevermore before the Civil War ends. They're racing because of the potential for renewed conservative Southern interference from a new Congress, including newly reunited Confederate states.
In brief but pointed sketches, Spielberg paints in the "rivals" Lincoln packed into his cabinet -- the secretary of state, William Seward (David Strathairn) who longed to be president himself but came to worship Lincoln, and the impatient, oft-embattled secretary of war, Edwin Stanton (Bruce McGill, ill-tempered and terrific). And the filmmaker captures the political wheeling, dealing, bargaining and bullying that it took to make a lame-duck Congress turn permanent the sentiments of Lincoln's earlier Emancipation Proclamation.
"We're whalin', Mr. Ashby," Lincoln tells one weak-kneed congressman. "We've been chasin' this whale a long time."
I love the way Lincoln enters the picture -- weary, seated, meeting soldiers who tell of their exploits, and atrocities, men so excited at the sight of him that they jabber, all at once, interrupting the president.
That's a recurring motif here, people talking over Lincoln, impatient with his jokes, homilies and allegorical stores. His wife, Mary Todd (Sally Field), can point out that, "No one's as loved as much as you," but that doesn't mean his political contemporaries -- friends and foes -- feared insulting him, brushing him off or shouting him down.
Day-Lewis gets across the gentle humanity of the man, a doting dad, tolerant husband (Field ably makes Mary Todd Lincoln's manic mood swings understandable) and a kind soul who was simply good -- and never more good than when he kept things simple.
Tommy Lee Jones lends flint and fire to the "radical" Republican Congressman Thaddeus Stevens, whose chief criticism of Lincoln was the president's equivocating and delaying the ending of slavery.
John Hawkes, Tim Blake Nelson and a hilarious James Spader are backdoor wheeler-dealers angling to bribe enough votes to secure passage of the 13th Amendment. Hal Holbrook brings great gravitas to political kingmaker Francis Blair, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt is well-cast as Lincoln's older son, Robert.
Jackie Earle Haley stands out as Alexander Stephens, the Confederate vice president angling to make a peace treaty that will preserve slavery. More problematic is Jared Harris ("Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows") as Grant. His hair, air and accent don't work, and turning the rumpled, hard-drinking general into someone this spit-and-polished doesn't help.
Tony Kushner's script pauses, time and again, for Lincoln to tell a joke or a little story, always to get across some larger point. Day-Lewis is nobody's idea of a comedian, so he lacks Lincoln's Mark-Twain yarn-spinner timing.
And for all its grace notes and lightly lyrical touches, like the Great Man himself, the movie ambles, meanders and wanders off on storytelling tangents. It's a flaccid 21/2 hours long, which does make for a somewhat more complete portrait of the man but robs the movie of any sense of forward progress and urgency.
This renders "Lincoln" closer to "Amistad" than "Schindler's List" in the Spielberg canon -- historically meticulous and well-intentioned but missing emotion and a sense of momentum.
It's still a lovely film, and thanks to the research and good-humored, stoop-shouldered interpretation of Honest Abe, the Lincoln whom American schoolchildren picture in their heads from now on could now have a weedy drawl provided by an Oscar-winning Englishman, one of the finest actors who ever lived.


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quote:Originally posted by nuxfanquote:Originally posted by Guest5744and if i was a goalie in the nhl 2nd in SV% GAA and shutouts i think i should be earning at least as much as the top 16 goalies in the leaguesure, he's done that for 16 games this year. If he can show that he's capable of doing that year in and year out for several years in the regular season and playoffs, then $4M+ contracts will become the norm for Elliott. Until that time, he's just a currently hot goalie.
quote:Originally posted by Guest5744and if i was a goalie in the nhl 2nd in SV% GAA and shutouts i think i should be earning at least as much as the top 16 goalies in the league
quote:Originally posted by Beans15Sure guest, because NHL teams just toss $4 million contracts around like they are water. Give your head a shake. There are only 16 goalies in the entire NHL that make $3.6 million/season or more. Not all starters make that kind of money.To the point at hand, I wouldn't disagree that OTT wins this trade when looking at OTT vs COL. OTT still has their player and signed him to a very good contract. Win! My point was more towards all those people who justified the OTT win by making statements along the lines of Brian Elliot sucks and/or Anderson is way better than Elliot. Explain to me how Brian Elliot is playing better than Jaro Halak this season (as statistically better than last season) with virtually the same defensive group in front of him?? Although it's a highly objective statement, I highly doubt that OTT is bette off with Anderson over Elliot. The players are similar, as some orginally eluded to. Those who say that Anderson is a step up on Elliot are simply dillusion in their bais.
quote:Originally posted by Leafs81Anderson is not too shabby in Ottawa. He gave confidence to a team that people thought would be battling for a lottery draft pick at season end, now they are second in their division and in place for playoffs. Anderson has a lot of wins and is now stepping it up, this team has a young defensive squad and they were making full of mistakes especially at the beginning of the season.Anderson is keeping them in games they had no business winning.Anyway Elliot is doing great in St Louis not Colorado. So Ottawa won this trade hands down.
quote:Originally posted by Beans15The NHL has 30 teams. You listed 11 teams that he would be #1 on or perhaps as good as the current starter. You disagree with almost everything I say but show he would not be the start in MORE than 50% of the NHL????Who wins if and when Anderson leaves as a UFA in July??? This deal is only solid for Ottawa IF they sign Anderson for a reasonable contract. Ultimately, I don't see Anderson as an upgrade on virtually any goalie Ottawa has had in the past 4 seasons.
quote:Originally posted by nuxfanThe biggest question mark for this trade is Anderson's UFA status - specifically:- what does it cost OTT to sign him. His last contract was a sort of "yeah I had a good year in FLA, but I'll take a cheepie to prove it wasn't a fluke". And it wasn't. So what is the next contract amount for Anderson?- does he even sign in OTT? He is UFA, and can go anywhere. Not trying to kick a team when they're down, but OTT hasn't exactly made themselves a hockey destination over the last few seasons for UFA's. I think there is a good bet that they cannot keep him - hell, he may resign in COL over the summer, word is that he liked it there.
quote:Ottawa wins this trade hands down because they gave up NOTHING !!!
quote:Originally posted by ryan93How about Anderson tonight! 47 save shut-out, plus blanked the Leafs in the shoot-out, incredible!
quote:Originally posted by Sensfan101Alright Anderson had one good year Elliot had 0 good years. The numbers don't always tell everything. You can't see in his GAA all the bad goals Elliot has let in. He was letting in bad goal pretty much every game this year.You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
quote:Originally posted by Beans15Guys, help me understand this:Craig Anderson - 213 GP, 87 wins(.408 win %), 83 losses, 21 ties a 2.85 GAA and a .911 save % playing between Chicago, Florida, and Colorado. Brian Elliot130 games, 59 wins (.453 win %), 45 losses, 15 ties, 2.81 GAA and a .903 save % playing for Ottawa.Help me understand what Ottawa got that Colorado got other than a goalie that is 4 years older and has about one more season of games worth of experience?????
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Boulder police arrested an employee of BJ's Restaurant and Brewhouse after they say he intentionally drove his car through the front door of the restaurant early Monday morning.
According to Boulder police spokeswoman Kim Kobel, the incident occurred at 2:46 a.m. Monday. Kobel said the driver, identified as Daniel Chaires, drove his brown sedan through the revolving door at the entrance on the west side of the restaurant at 1690 28th St. The door is about 30 feet from the intersection of 28th Street and Canyon Boulevard.
According to a police report, Chaires was found by police "lounging" in the vehicle with his hands behind his head and the seat reclined.
Kobel said officers on scene described Chaires as "disoriented." She said Chaires told police he purposely drove into the building to alert the public of government conspiracies, though he did not elaborate.
He said it was not his intent to hurt himself or anyone in the restaurant. One employee was in the restaurant at the time of the accident but was not injured, according to Kobel.
Chaires did tell police he was under the influence of drugs, Kobel said.
He was taken to Boulder Community Hospital and later arrested on suspicion of DUI, reckless driving and criminal mischief. He remains in custody at the Boulder County Jail.
Workers spent Monday morning replacing the restaurant's door, and BJ's re-opened for business.
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The Broncos got three gifts on Christmas Day, in the form of Wes Welker's, Derek Wolfe's and Kayvon Webster's returns to practice.
Welker, a receiver, hasn't practiced since he suffered a concussion in the team's Dec. 8 game against the Titans, and he's missed the past two games. Wolfe has been out since he fell ill on the team bus on Nov. 29, missing the past four games. Although the team hasn't given specific details of what was wrong with the defensive end, coach John Fox said last week that he's been looking better and better.
Webster, a rookie cornerback, broke his thumb in the team's Dec. 12 loss to the Chargers. His return Wednesday didn't come as much of a surprise; the team has hoped since the injury and his surgery the next day that he'd be able to return this week and play with a cast on his right hand.
Tight end Joel Dreessen and center Steve Vallos were both missing from the team's Christmas Day practice Wednesday. Vallos suffered a concussion on Sunday, and Dreessen has battled knee problems all season. Wide receiver Eric Decker (thigh) and quarterback Peyton Manning (ankle) also were limited.
A modified Christmas schedule. The Broncos reported to practice three hours late Wednesday. Instead of arriving at 7:20 a.m., they were permitted to show up at 10:20 to the facility. Practice — which was in full pads — began at 2:10 p.m. instead of 11:10 a.m., allowing players with young children to be at home with them in the morning. The team also canceled afternoon meetings so that players could be home for dinner.
Linebacker Marshall on the 53-man roster. A day after being activated from the Broncos' practice squad to fill Von Miller's spot, linebacker Brandon Marshall spoke to the media. Marshall spent the first 16 weeks of the 2013 season on Denver's practice squad, and he knows his role now that he has been moved to the active roster.
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DURHAM, N.C. - After falling behind 2-1, Towson put up four runs in the sixth and never relinquished the lead as the Tigers topped Duke 9-3 Friday evening at the Durham Bulls Athletic Park.
Duke grabbed a 2-1 lead in the bottom of the fourth as second baseman Andy Perez got the inning started with a single up the middle. Right fielder Jeff Kremer followed with a walk, his seventh in eight games, and catcher Mike Rosenfeld beat out a bunt down the left field line to load the bases. Third baseman Jordan Betts then singled to right field to put Duke up 2-1.
Towson answered with a four-run sixth to take a 5-2 lead. A pair of walks began the Tiger rally and the first Towson run crossed the plate after a walk with the bases loaded. A double play ball plated the second run before a double from Andrew Parker and a single from Dominic Frantantuono scored the final two runs of the inning.
The Tigers added a pair of runs in both the seventh and the ninth to extend their lead to 9-2 heading into the bottom of the ninth.
The Blue Devils got one back in the final frame as an error and a pair of singles, one each from Grant McCabe and Rosenfeld, loaded the bases with no one out. Left fielder Andrew Istler drew a walk to score Marconcini from third, but a strikeout and double play ball would end the game.
Towson right-hander Mike Volpe (2-0) earned the win, limiting Duke to two runs on six hits. Volpe walked three and struck out five in six innings of work. Offensively, the Tigers totaled 14 hits in the contest and capitalized on 10 walks issued by the Duke pitching staff.
Duke starter Trent Swart (1-0) issued a season-high five walks, but allowed just one run on four hits. Swart struck out four and left the game after five complete innings with a 2-1 lead. Sophomore Remy Janco (0-1) would take the loss after giving up three runs on one hit and three walks in the sixth.
"I thought that it was a good job by Trent [Swart] of battling" said head coach Chris Pollard. "He didn't really get into his groove. His was laboring to consistently put the ball in the strike zone, but he did a good job of battling. He gave us 5.0 innings and he came out with a lead, 2-1. That's a quality start."
Duke's offense was led by Rosenfeld, who went 3-for-4 with a double for his second three-hit game of the season. Perez was 2-for-5 with a run scored in the leadoff spot, while Matt Berezo went 2-for-4 with a double.
"I thought that some guys individually had some good at bats," Pollard added. "Rosenfeld had a very good day at the plate. Matt Berezo had a good day at the plate and Jordan Betts with the two-RBI single. I thought we did a good job of getting the leadoff guy on base, but our situational hitting was not very good. Obviously the biggest issue from our end is the fact that we walked 10 guys. You're not going to win very often when you walk 10 guys and we walked seven through nine in their line up five times. I don't say that as any disrespect to Towson because they played well. They're a good club, but when you walk the bottom of the lineup, it's going to come back to haunt you."
Game two of the series is set for a 5:30 p.m., start Saturday at the Durham Bulls Athletic Park.


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TRAINING: First thing in the morning I do a three mile run then eat. A few hours later I spar, eat, then later do pad work, jitz, wrestling, then eat.
When and why did you start training for fighting? I really started fighting right when I graduated college, and I turned pro in 2007. I wanted to keep competing.
What ranks and titles have you held? #1 ranked welterweight in the state of OK by OK Fight News
Do you have any heroes? Barack Obama, Braulio Estima and Lyoto Machida
What does it mean for you to fight in the UFC? Everything, I put my life in my training and fighting; now I made it to the UFC and I'm training as hard as ever!
Did you go to college and if so what degree did you earn? Neosho County Community College (A.A.DEGREE) and Bacone College (B.A. DEGREE)
What was your job before you started fighting? DJ / discount sport nutrition
Specific accomplishments in pro and amateur competition? In 2004 I became an All-American in wrestling. In addition, I am a 3 x NAGA Champ 2 x NAGA World finalist, ADCC medalist, GQ medalist, a jiu-jitsu national champ, 2x jiu-jitsu world medalist and jiu-jitsu word finalist. Grappling record 57-14 #1 Ranked welterweight in the state of OK by OK Fight News.
Ranks in any martial arts styles: Purple belt in jiu-jitsu under Cesar Gracie
Favorite grappling technique: RNC
Favorite Striking technique: Jab
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