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Earlier this month, I had the privilege of hearing Prof. Jonathan Sarna discuss the ominous subject of the demise of the synagogue. Part sociology and statistics, part finger-wagging scolding of mainstream congregations, and part funny monologue, his main message was a challenge directly to the many community leaders and rabbis I saw in the audience: shape up, or the Jews will ship out.
I, too, can list all the failures of synagogue life, as he and the other panellists did, and they are many: Singles feel pushed out. Gays and lesbians don't feel welcome. People with little kids are only interested in programming for pediatric Judaism. Empty-nesters fill the pews. Large congregations are anonymous, while small congregations burn out their few volunteers. Politics prevail over spirituality. We don't talk about God enough. We talk about God too much. There's nowhere for the marginalized to go. There's nowhere for the observant left-wingers to go. People in their 20s and 30s can't seem to get engaged, because they're all on Facebook and Twitter and don't crave real interaction. (Interestingly enough, when I – an oldtimer – went to tweet something Sarna said to my Twitter feed, I discovered to my horror that there was no Wi-Fi in the shul auditorium where the panel was being held.) And so on and so on.
There was much truth being spoken. I haven't been a congregational rabbi for 20 years, but I've been a Jew in the pew a lot. I've seen all the failings of many of our community's shuls, of all denominations. Yet I've also had some amazing and wonderful spiritual highs in synagogues. When? When my fellow congregants let go of their unrealistic and extraordinary expectations; whenever folks opened up to the spiritual nuances of Judaism and were able to let go of their "list" of what the "perfect" shul had to be for them on that particular day. When my fellow congregants were able to bring the best of themselves into the shul and share it generously with those around them, including the rabbi. When my fellow congregants stopped being consumers counting how much bang they were getting for their synagogue dues buck and starting asking, "What can I give back besides money? How can I make this a wonderful shul for others?"
I think the subject itself has two great flaws. The first is the assumption that the demise of the synagogue is fully and only the synagogue's fault, and that a truly great synagogue is impossible – unless we look at "hip" new shuls in the United States, at their success at redefining membership or dues, or their Carlebach Friday-night synaplexes with seven-piece bands. Without looking at what makes a great congregant, and how synagogues can nurture – even expect – that kind of member, we're only asking one side of the question. We cry a lot about the demise of the synagogue, but there's also the demise of the congregant, the Jew ready to serve, ready to build, ready to give and ready to create the shul of their own dreams.
The second flaw is the assumption that independent minyanim or post-denominational synagogues are the answer. Without looking at what the legitimate movements of Judaism can offer and how they can speak to us in a clear and inspirational way, and without asking and listening to those who truly have found comfort and stability in their chosen movement, there is again only one side to the conversation.
Most Jews have some sort of knowledge about the main branches of Judaism – at least they know which shuls they wouldn't be caught dead in and which organizations to ignore at fundraising times. But we're woefully ignorant of what the denominations actually teach and preach, and we just might find kindred spirits and guiding principles in those organizations.
I left 20 years in adult education to return to the congregational rabbinate. I wouldn't have done so if I thought we're doomed to boring, stale and sterile synagogues that try and be all things to all people, or only demand, uninvolved and passive congregants who complain without putting in any effort to renew their own experience and challenge their own stereotypes. We all have to share the task of rebuilding the shul of the future – with enthusiasm and passion, not out of a sense of panic and defeat.


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Residents and staff members of the Lompoc Comprehensive Care Center have nominated Donnie Payne and Connie Terrones as King and Queen of the CCC.
King Donnie Payne was born in Blanchard, Oklahoma 72 years ago and has lived in Lompoc for the past 13 years. King Donnie is a horseman and owned his own horses and loves anything to do with horses. He likes to keep up with his reading by using his Kindle every day. King Donnie is proud to be this year's King of the CCC.
Queen Connie Terrones was born in Guadalupe, California 86 years ago and has lived in Lompoc for most of her life. Queen Connie is an expert seamstress who also loves to dance. Queen Connie is proud to be this year's Queen of the CCC.


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Consistency was the theme for the Carthage boys golf team on Thursday in the Joplin Invitational, with four players finishing within three strokes as the Tigers placed third overall.
Consistency was the theme for the Carthage boys golf team on Thursday in the Joplin Invitational, with four players finishing within three strokes as the Tigers placed third overall.
Carson Trent led the way with an 85, which tied him for seventh overall; Austin Bunnell and Derek Catron each shot 86 to tie for 11th; MacKenzie Smart added an 87 and Logan Jones finished at 95.
A pair of Big 8 schools led in the team standings with Aurora posting a 337 and Lamar following at 343. Carthage was a shot out of second place at 344, Joplin finished at 348, Republic shot 356, Webb City finished with 419, College Heights added a 494 and McDonald County was a distant eighth at 519.
"Early in the year at the first tournament you never know who's good or not," Carthage head coach Lowell Catron said. "I was glad to see Republic there today, they're in our conference and now they've moved up to Class 4 and they're in our district. I was happy to be paired with Joplin and Republic, and I was actually pleased with our scores and our consistency. It's just been very frustrating this spring. The weather is killing our golf practice and we've gone almost two weeks without any kind of practices at all because of spring break and the weather, so I was really pleased with their scores considering we haven't had much practice."
The weather was also responsible for the postponement of matches scheduled for Monday and Tuesday of this week. Monday's match against Joplin and Webb City at Twin Hills may not be rescheduled, but Tuesday's match against Joplin and Webb City has been rescheduled for April 9.
Catron said he saw a lot on Thursday his team can improve on, and the improvement will come when the team is able to practice more consistently.
"I saw a lot of missed clubbing," he said. "We were hitting over greens or short of greens, and it's just tough scoring conditions this time of year anyway. I think the boys will continue to keep improving."
Because of postponements and cancellations, Wednesday's triangular with Joplin and Webb City at Briarbrook officially teed off the season.
Joplin shot 171, Carthage shot 180 and Webb City shot 200.
Trent led the Tigers with a 40, Bunnell shot 45, Smart shot 46, Catron finished at 49 and Jones added a 50.
Carthage will compete in the Bird Dog Invitational at 8:30 a.m. Monday at Briarbrook in Carl Junction.


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Luther placed third at the Iowa Conference Championships hosted by Central College. The Norse tallied 59 points, finishing behind Wartburg with 30 and Loras with 43.
Tricia Serres won the individual championship and was named the league's MVP. She covered the 6K course in 21:29.3, finishing well ahead of runner-up Haddie Vawter of Wartburg who crossed the finish line at 22:31.8.
Serres is the ninth Luther runner to win the IIAC women's individual title, joining Linda Swenson (1982-84-85), Martha Lindberg (1983), Rochelle Swiggum (1986), Laura Libbey (1987), Turena Johnson (1995-96), Johanna Olson (1999-2000-01), Janet Dobyns (2006-07) and Emma Spoon (2010-11) to give the Norse a total of 16 individual titles.
Jayne Cole also earned all-conference honors by finishing in the top-15 from the field of 120 runners. Cole placed seventh with a time of 23:18.4. This is the second time Cole has earned all-conference honors.
Completing Luther's top seven was Nicole Powers (16th - 24:10.7), Mallory Carr (17th - 24:11.0), Sophie Ristau (18th - 24:15.0), Brenna Gibbons (19th - 24:16.0) and Lauren Mordini (21st - 24:18.7).
The next varsity race will be the NCAA III Central Regional that will be hosted by St. Olaf College Nov. 16. Race time is scheduled for 11:00 a.m.
Prior to the Central Regional, Luther will host the JV Cup next Friday, Nov. 8 at 4:15 p.m.
Questions? Contact David Blanchard, post_to_results, 563-387-1586


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Have you plans to write a refutation of Ray Comfort's views? [[Talk:Ray Comfort#"Favorite arguments" section|Two users are concerned]]. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 03:08, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
Have you plans to write a refutation of Ray Comfort's views? [[Talk:Ray Comfort#"Favorite arguments" section|Two users are concerned]]. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 03:08, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
Revision as of 21:34, 17 November 2011
In the Logs, I see you deleted Iron Chariots Wiki:Searching on Aug 19th, saying, "This is the second time this page has popped up as a redirect, and I don't know why". I do. It's linked to from the Search results page when you do an unsuccessful search (follow last link to see example). - dcljr 02:07, 26 August 2006 (MST)
- Actually, it shows up on successful searches, too. - dcljr 02:36, 26 August 2006 (MST)
Known issues
Since registering a few hours ago, I've made an initial pass through the wiki (main navigation pages, special pages) looking for "obvious" problems. I've collected them at User:Dcljr/Sandbox. Basically, I wanted to give you (and Matt) a heads-up before I go in changing everything. <w> - dcljr 03:41, 26 August 2006 (MST)
Spaces in URLs
I've replied on my talk page. - dcljr 03:13, 29 August 2006 (MST)
The only extra typing which is required is "text=" (as you could just start the text section with '''Comment:'''). The old comment-box didn't format correctly in every situation (if, for example a picture or menu div or anything else exists to the right or left of it) which required me to make comment-box2 (to adjust the right margin) and might have eventually lead to comment-box3,4,5,6,7,8,9 (to adjust left margin or color or anything else). That could all be replaced with one template, so why not do it? Additionally, templates which use {{{1}}} (unnamed parameters) have additional limitations that prevent some "behind the scenes" stuff from working - unnamed parameters, for example, don't always work well when referencing one template from within another. - Sans Deity 10:44, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
- Actually, using "text=" AND typing the extra bolded word "comment" is a lot of extra typing, especially considering that it will be repeated many times over throughout the course of an article.
- Despite the issues you raised, it seems to me that the generic box is shorter and easier for most simple text. What if I reintroduced Comment-box and made it reference Comment-box1 as a special case? Then we could still use Comment-box1 any time we need to use a picture or whatever. -- Kazim 11:14, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
- I guess that would be ok, the problem is that if people add pictures or sidebars later, without properly understanding the templates it's going to be a bit of work for them to figure out that the need to completely change which template is referenced. Instead of looking at the template in use and simply changing/adding a parameter, they now have to completely switch templates. I'd rather type a little extra now so that the only thing an editor would need to do is add a "width=" (or similar). I suppose it's ok to have a million templates but I just want the templates to be manageable and having one template that had a pretty solid default function while allowing optional parameters to be set. One thing we'll definitely want to do, either way, is categorize templates and make sure that they're well documented - which would include documenting all similar template.
- Generally, I'm of the opinion that "Comment-box1" shouldn't be considered a "special case" template, it should be the default - because it's the one that doesn't suffer from the problems that "Comment-box" suffers from. But that's just me...add it if you like, I'll be typing the extra few characters. To me, it's not just about which solution requires me to type less, it's about which solution is more useful and simpler. Why learn many templates for comment boxes when you only have to learn one? Maybe we don't want every comment in a given article to have the "Comment:" preface, some should maybe be "See also:" or "Response:". Maybe we don't want them all to be the same color...if a particular comment is more important or references another article it may deserve another color. Comments where we agree with the apologist might deserve a different color than where we disagree or where their claims represent immoral beliefs. - Sans Deity 20:33, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
Doubting Thomas and Kirk Cameron?
I don't understand how the "I used to be an atheist" argument has precedent in Doubting Thomas (see this change). Could you please spell it out? --Arensb 10:34, 15 December 2007 (CST)
- Expanded now; see article. --Kazim 18:40, 15 December 2007 (CST)
Are website citations and references possible on this wiki? I have yet to find a page that uses them, so I Decided it wouldn't be a bad idea to ask. --Enshoku 21:12, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
- I think I know what you're talking about, but you might want to check with dcljr. He's kind of our resident Wiki technician.
--Kazim 06:50, 30 April 2008 (CDT)
- Will ask, thanks for the help!
--Enshoku 17:25, 30 April 2008 (CDT)
Watch for a Vandal calling himself Yerranos. He's a fundy Christian doing secular Wikis. Proxima Centauri 13:32, 21 June 2008 (CDT)
- Thanks for the tip. I have to say I misread your message the first time, and I went through your own recent edits saying to myself, "Hey, Proxima Centauri doesn't sound so much like a vandal..." :) --Kazim 10:31, 22 June 2008 (CDT)
Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to you about this. How do you make sure no one is vandalizing the wiki? What if some Christian like Yerranos starts deleting articles. Will our work be wasted?--wissam hemadeh 15:18, 5 April 2010 (CDT)
Hello, Russell
I've been hoping you guys would get an automated donation system going by now, but decided to press the issue. I demand that you give me a way to send money to this project!
Hmm, let's see. I think there's supposed to be something I do at the end of a wiki edit. Maybe this is it. Beriukay 07:41, 13 May 2009 (CDT)
- Hi Beriukay, thanks for your interest. If you want to donate, I suggest you sent it to the Atheist Community of Austin and mark your donation as earmarked for Iron Chariots. You can donate at this link.
- Thanks Kazim. That was painless. Beriukay
Short URL
You might've already considered it, or maybe even never thought about it, but having index.php?title= in the sites URLs looks yucky, unprofessional, and somewhat annoying if manually typing out an address. It's relatively easy to get rid of the index.php?title= part so it's like it is on Wikipedia. Instructions can be found here - Aardvark 07:26, 17 June 2009 (CDT)
Wiki Date / Time is off
The wiki's clock seems to be off by more than a week.... Jwissick 01:38, 5 April 2010 (CDT)
A suggestion
I've been doing some research and found some huge websites related to religious issues. Unfortunately, Christians and Muslims dominate the web. I was thinking of doing some more group projects on this wiki, as in critiques of theistic websites, articles, books, debates, philosopgers (Craig, Plantinga, Swinburne, Behe) etc etc. I don't get the obsession with Ray Comfort- he's the dumbest person I've seen.--wissam hemadeh 15:27, 5 April 2010 (CDT)
Also, the wiki seems to have little insight on the religions themselves. What we have is great but take a look at this website for example, www.answering-islam.com >It's a Christian website which attacks Islam, and it is extraordinary.--wissam hemadeh 15:27, 5 April 2010 (CDT)
- Feel free to add them! --Kazim 14:28, 15 April 2010 (CDT)
Activation of LaTeX?
The UI for this site has a math button, but it doesn't work:
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Is it possible to get this enabled? There's a basic guide here:
I've done stuff kinda like this before; it could be time-consuming or trivial depending on what kind of server you've got set up. Just curious if this could be fixed. It's more than a little weird being on a site that talks about science and logic, and only having HTML to work with, but I know you guys are busy, so it's not a huge deal if that's all we've got.
Christhiru is a Dick
I've never used wiki software before so I'm not sure if this is the right place to posit this, but every change the user Christhiru has made needs to be undone and his account needs to be banned. He basically deletes entire, valid, well formed, articles and occasionally adds a link to his sh*tty apologist blog. I have no idea how to go about undoing his many changes to the site or how to launch some kind of formal complaint, but Christhiru is a dick and he needs to be stopped ASAP.
FF searchplugin
I've been trying to work out how to make an Iron Chariots searchplugin for firefox for the last few hours to no avail. Can you help me or defer to someone who could help me? I think it would also be a good idea to add an autodiscovery feature to the site just so people can 'add' the site to the search bar.
Secularism and Xianity
Sorry for posting this on this talk page, but for some reason I cannot use the forum - I tried numerous times, used different names, but still it never allows me in. Anyway, Im here for some help. Over the years, I have heard from many Christians that their religion is responsible for creating many things (reason, science, democracy, morality, ect.) and I am sure we have heard some form of it once. For this, I recently created the article Christianity invented science and explained why it is wrong. I chose this one because it is growing in the conservative academia and Christian apologetic literature. However, there is just one more topic I want to address, the delusion that Christianity invented secularism. I would not bother with this unless it was no growing as well, but I see it very frequently. Anyway, I know we already have a article on separation of church and state, but I wanted to know if I should create an entirely new article refuting the stance that secularism is a Christian idea and separation of church and state was invented to keep government out of religion and not the other way around. What should I do? Wolf 15:35, 12 September 2011 (CDT)
- You probably should have read the instructions in the access request forum. Anyway, I've added Feredir28 to the member group, I'm assuming that's you. Kazim 12:52, 13 September 2011 (CDT)
- Thank you, I shall move this topic to the forum. Pardons for not noticing that page. Yes, I'm Feredir. Again, thank you. Wolf 14:08, 13 September 2011 (CDT)
Ray Comfort
Have you plans to write a refutation of Ray Comfort's views? Two users are concerned. Proxima Centauri 03:08, 4 November 2011 (CDT) Yeah, have there been any more advances on that? Oh and Kazim? we need another plug for iron chariots on the Non-Prophets....and congrats on the wedding!I made a Rick Perry page,and it has something on it about a group called the New Apostolic Reformation you should read...the youtube video I linked to summarizing it was rather good, it would be humorous on the show..... WhatsAGoodUsername?


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Journeys of Wonder: from Curiosity to Insight
December 1 2013 12:03 pm
This exhibition of books from Special Collections highlights the exploration of new territories, the discovery of new plants, animals, and objects (many of which found their way into Wunderkammer), and the scientific knowledge that ultimately arose from close observation of artifacts and natural phenomena. Curated by Catherine Rod and Chris Jones, with Chase Booth '16 and Sam Dunnington '14. Poster designed by Stephanie Porter '14.
Burling Library, First Floor and Burling Gallery, SEPTEMBER 27, 2013 - FEBRUARY 14, 2014
This is a companion exhibit to the Faulconer Gallery exhibition, From Wunderkammer to the Modern Museum 1606-1884, drawn from the collection of Florence Fearrington.


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Port of Los Angeles begins construction on West Basin RailyardWritten by Mischa Wanek-Libman, editor
Construction has begun on a staging and storage rail yard that will serve as a critical link between the Port of Los Angeles and the Alameda Corridor.
According to the port, when completed, the $137.7 million Berth 200/West Basin Railyard project will move cargo more safely and efficiently, reduce truck traffic on roads and freeways and improve regional air quality while strengthening the Port of Los Angeles' position as the nation's top trade gateway.
The Berth 200 rail yard project also enables track space at the TraPac container terminal to serve as TraPac's future on-dock rail facility. With completion of the $365 million in rail, roadway and terminal improvements at TraPac over the next three years, TraPac will join the other seven container terminals at the Port of Los Angeles that offer shippers the speed-to-market advantage of on-dock rail.
"This project creates jobs, reduces pollution and makes our city a better place to live, work and do business," said Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. "The economic and environmental benefits of this investment will be felt across the nation."
"The Port's top priorities are competitive operations, strong relationships and financial strength," said Port Executive Director Geraldine Knatz. "This project hits all three marks by allowing us to move cargo more safely and efficiently, making us a better business partner and neighbor to our surrounding communities, and procuring federal and state funding to make the best use of port dollars."
The rail yard will be constructed with $16 million in federal grant money from the U.S. Department of Transportation's Transportation Investment Generating Economic Recovery program. The port secured $51.2 million from the State Proposition 1B Trade Corridors Improvement Fund Grant that is administered by the California Department of Transportation and $22.1 million from LACMTA-awarded federal funds. The port is investing $48.37 million from its Harbor Revenue funds for the project.
The project will be built in two phases. Phase 1 includes construction of the new yard, support tracks for the TraPac and China Shipping/West Basin Container terminals, double-track connections to the Alameda Corridor and national rail network and access road improvements. Phase 2 is due to begin construction in 2013 and includes final rail network connections and vehicle overpasses to eliminate at-grade crossings for safer, more efficient flow of truck and commuter traffic. Both phases are due to be completed in summer 2014.


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AWENDAW, S.C. -- Junior Austin Cody, a native of North Charleston, S.C., fired a closing round 67 (-5) to pace Duke to four-under 284 Tuesday at the Hootie at Bulls Bay Intercollegiate. The final round charge spearheaded by Cody and senior Julian Suri led the Blue Devils to a three-shot victory over N.C. State.
"Austin [Cody] got on a role today which was huge and Julian [Suri] turned it around and got under par," said head coach Jamie Green. "Anytime you can get under-par on a golf course like that where there aren't a ton of under-par rounds you have a chance to compete for a title. It was really cool for Austin and great for our program to have him play so well here in his hometown."
Duke finished the event with a 10-over 874 while securing its third tournament victory of the season and the 25th of head coach Jamie Green's career. N.C. State finished second at +13 followed by Wake Forest (+20, 884), Missouri (+24, 888) and LSU (+25, 889).
"I couldn't be more happy and pleased with how the guys showed a high level of patience and persistence," said Green. "That is what you had to do in this kind of weather, because there were going to be some times when you couldn't control your golf ball. They hit a lot of solid golf shots, made great decisions and if something didn't bounce their way they got over it quickly and moved on to the next shot."
Logan Harrell (N.C. State) fired a final round 66 (-6) to grab individual medalist honors with a three-under 213. Cody posted a two-under 214 (73-74-67) to place second for the best finish of his career. Freshman Mads Soegaard and Albin Choi (N.C. State) were tied for third at one-under (215).
Cody opened play with a par on No. 1 before ripping off four straight birdies. He added birdies on No. 8 and No. 9 to make the turn at six-under. He ran into his only trouble of the day with back-to-back bogeys on No. 12 and No. 13. Cody recovered with a birdie on the par 3 14th hole before closing the day with four straight pars. Cody's 67 matches the low round of his career and Duke's best round this season.
"I felt good from the start and got off to a great start, which got my round going," said Cody. "Unfortunately my parents couldn't come today but it was nice to play well in front of friends and my grandparents. As a team, we played well both days. The conditions were brutal but we were all patient which helped us grind it out for 54 holes."
Suri, who began play on No. 3, started slowly in the final round with two bogeys on his first three holes. He carded consecutive birdies on No. 9 and No. 10 to move back to even-par before adding birdies on No. 17 and No. 18 to get to two-under. Following a bogey on No. 1, Suri finished with a par on No. 2 for a one-under 71. He now has nine-under par rounds on the season. Suri closed the tournament tied for 17th with a six-over 222.
Soegaard as well as senior Brinson Paolini and Adam Sumrall each fired one-over 73s in the final round. Soegaard collected four birdies, nine pars and five bogeys. With the tie for third finish, he now has a pair of top 5 finishes and three top 10s on the season.
"Mads is playing so consistently well and he kept giving himself opportunities in all three rounds," added Green. "It was a terrific performance from start to finish."
Paolini finished tied for 20th for his seventh top 20 showing of the year. He played steady throughout the final round and sat a one-under for a majority of the day before finishing with a pair of bogeys. The Virginia Beach, Va., native now has 24 career top 20 finishes.
Sumrall carded three birdies in the final round en route to a +1 73. He finished tied for 47th in the event with a 14-over 230.
Video interviews, highlights and scorecards from the Hootie at Bulls Bay Intercollegiate are available at www.golfstat.com.
Duke returns to action April 6-7 at the Aggie Invitational in Bryan, Texas.


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I've been seeing many of the same questions come up over and over and over again, and despite the reaction of many of us to "use the search button", I think we all have to agree it would be nice to have some of these frequently asked questions all together in a nice little thread. So here's my attempt, please inform me if you think there's more I should add to items, or if you I missed anything!
1. #1 FAQ!!! AGD is still in business as we are all proof of that!
//oh, and never say "AGD is dead". If Tom Kaye wants your opinion, he'll give it to you.
2. Why should I buy a mag?
I see threads like this once in a while. Someone new comes to the forum wondering about automags and why they are so great. The question of "Why should I buy one" comes up often so I thought I'd go ahead and list some reasons why exactly mags are so great.
Automags are synonymous with reliability. The very simplicity of the mag is the reason why. Mags are simple by nature, the design is simple and upkeep is even simpler. A few drops of oil in the ASA can keep a mag running for a long time. Ask any mag user and they'll tell you that their mag never gives them problems. This makes mags perfect for a backup gun or a primary. When the gun works perfect, you days will go by much easier.
This goes along with reliability. Mags are a simple design. Look at an xvalve or classic valve and you see pretty much the whole assembly of moving parts neccesary to fire (not counting the sear or body). Check out the mag animation here and compare it to the others on the page. The simplicity of the design aids in its reliability and the abiltiy to customize easily.
Customizability(is that a word?)
Mags are freakishly customizable. There are so many parts and upgrades on the market today that it will make your head spin. Whether they be from private dealers or straight from AGD, you are sure to find something to make your mag even better. If you want to build a gun from the ground up, a mag is a perfect alternative to the custom cocker.
WIth all those custom parts out there, mags have become a breed of their own. These days its come to the point where no two mags look the same. Theres vert grips, custom bodies, y grips, z grips, custom rails, foregrips, feednecks, you name it. If you want to stand out at the field instead of blending in with another bland generic gun, a custom mag is for you. You can build something totally unique or contact a private dealer to aid in the creation of your badass machine. Today, the only thing relating the custom mags out there is the valve.
I know that accuracy is based on paint to barrel match blah blah blah but i must say mags can be pretty damn accurate. They never let you down and with a properly tuned level 10 bolt, you'll never worry about chops again. This all translates to a fun and worry free day of paintball for you.
Not much. The mag has about 1oz of recipricating mass (love that level 10 bolt) which ends up translating to less kick. Way way less than a cocker but a tad bit more than say a timmy or a matrix.
Xvalved mags are capable of 26bps which in no way means that you can pull that fast but still its there if you need it. You wont be outshooting a mag anytime soon. Theres videos out there of mags clearing 30bps (not legally of course) so they are definately capable of great things. Mech triggers on mags are somewhat heavy but fast firing rates can easily be acheived with a little practice. That not your thing? The ULT drops the wieght of the pull down drastically. Still too much? Your mag can be turned into an pneumatic, electro-pneumatic, or straight electro mowing machine. Mags can definately still rip with the best out there.
Got girly arms? Not enough meat on yer bones? Mags got you covered. Yeah some people say mags are heavy but those people are living in the past. Its called ULE. Ultra light engineering. Mags are wicked light when properly set up with ULE bodies, rails, etc. Just as light as an 03 shocker when ULE'd.
Well resale value has gone a bit down lately, which translates to cheaper mags. You can pick up used mags for under 200 if you have a keen eye. Also, AGD offers great packages, as do the private dealers on AO. You can build your dream mag without emptying your pocketbook.
I built a custom mag to fit my needs over the summer. You'd be suprised what a comfortable setup can do for your playing skills. If you are comfortable with your gun, you'll feel a lot better on the field. A custom mag can be made to fit you like a glove.
3. Where can I get stock and aftermarket parts for my mag?
AGD's official website here , Tunamart (or contact Tunaman here on AO) here , The Magsmith (sells RPG aftermarket products for mags, or contact Roguefactor here on AO) here , Logic Paintball here (Coolhand here on AO, although most of Logic products for mags have been discontinued), and Luke's Customs (contact Luke here on AO for price quotes and custom work) here .
Rogue, Tunaman, and Luke are dealers of mag products, both stock and aftermarket. Luke and Tunaman both do custom work for mags. Although I can't personally attest to the quality of Tunaman's work, I have seen plenty of it around AO and he does an AMAZING job. Luke also does incredible work, whether it be milling, spydermag mods (discussed later), etc.; and his turnaround time is GREAT!
Another name that should be included in aftermarket dealers is much more recent to the scene; jay8541 here on AO. Creator of Cerebrus Innovations aftermarket parts for mags, most notably the Airwalk and the soon to be released Stormwalk trigger frames, he is a great guy to deal with, and does some amazing work as well.
4. Pneumags:
Another VERY commonly asked question. A pneumag is essentially a mechanical mag with a pneumatic 3-way behind the trigger that actuates a small piston in front of the sear. This allows minimal trigger pull for true "walking" of a purely mechanical marker. Step-by-step video on how to build your own is right here (large version): http://www.fusionowners.org/pneumag/...w_to_large.wmv or here (small version): http://www.fusionowners.org/pneumag/...w_to_small.wmv . Don't want to do it yourself? Several people on AO can do it for you; Cyberave68, Pneumagger to name a couple.
5. How to make my mag electronic?
You have several options here. Centerflag Hyperframes can be found floating around the BST section of the forum, along with Booyah LCD frames (the contemporary to the Hyperframe, although quality/resale is not as good as the Hyperframe).
Another option is to add E/X-mag lowers to your existing mag; an easy, bolt-on option.
Also, Spyderframes can be modded to fit automags. Use of aftermarket boards in spyder frames will allow the use of eyes, as well; an advantage over the Hyperframe or Booyah. I don't currently have a how-to link for this, but I will edit this post as I find one. If you don't want to do this mod yourself, check out Luke's Customs, who will do the mod for you. Website is here: http://www.lukescustoms.com/index.htm . In order to request Luke's services, simply PM him here on AO.
Other ways to make your mag electronic include the electropneumatic option http://putstuff.putfile.com/57166/5272200/3 (the how-to example here is done using an Ion board and aftermarket solenoid from Air Soldier Products http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-b...Code=SOLENOIDS ), or modding other aftermarket frames to fit your mag, such as the ego-mag shown here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211255
6. Custom milling:
Best bet is to contact Luke or Tunaman from AO, although I believe Rogue also does some ULE milling on rails and such (please correct me if I'm wrong).
7. What's the best barrel for my mag?
This is almost purely a personal opinion/preference question. One of the most popular single bore barrels for older mags is the J&J ceramic. MANN here on AO has done extensive work on testing of different barrels, and the results should be around soon, this post will be edited when I get them.
8. Level 10 problems/questions?
GT's quick guide to lvl 10, see post # 32.
For the more info, go here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43538
9. Warp-feed problems/questions?
Go here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50487
10. ULT problems/questions?
Go here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96538
11. What are aftermarket body options for my mag?
See thread here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...16#post2216516
12. Where can I get it anno'd?
Gruntbull does some amazing work and has an account on AO; website is here: http://gruntbull.com/ . Also, thefool (can be contacted here on AO) does some pretty good anno work as well.
13. What is the difference between all of the Mag valves?
-Classic valves: AKA: 68Automag, Automag Classic, Minimag, Micromag, Smart Mag, Centerfire Mag, and many other are made of stainless steel. During the time these were created, they were run on CO2 (although running a setup on CO2 is greatly benefitted by adding an expansion chamber, anti-siphon tank, stabilizer, or any combination of the 3), but later AGD paved the way for for HPA by starting the use of Nitrogen air systems. All classic valves can run on CO2 and/or HPA. Classic valves came stock with a level 7 bolt system and these may be upgrade to a level 10 system to prevent ball chopping. The ULE trigger kit (ULT) is not recommended for use in the classic valves. Although they can be installed and made to work, the end result may include excessive shoot down and frequent short stroking as well as other possible side effects. It is best to NOT install the ULT on a classic valve.
-Rental mag valves: Most rental Mags use a classic style valve with RENTAL stamped on the side of them. The powertube is restricted so you can't exceed 300 fps, and they do not allow the use of a level 10.
-RT Pro/Retro valve: is a half stainless steel and half aluminum valve, which was the predecessor to the X-valve. It has a much higher recharge rate than the Classic valves. It is recommended that only HPA be used on these valve as CO2 will cause damage to the internals of the valve. Some accept ULT and some don't. The easiest way to check is by looking at the on/off to see if the "top" (the piece that goes into the valve first) has one or two orings. If there are two, then it will accept a ULT.
-E-mag valve: is the same as an RT Pro/Retro Valve, but will always accept a ULT on/off
-X-valve: is the same as an RT/E-mag valve, but the entire valve body is all aluminum, so it is much lighter and generally anodized in a variety of colors. This valve always accepts ULT and generally comes stock with a level 10 bolt system.
-Original/Classic RT valves: These generally just have an "RT" on the very back portion of the valve body. The body of the valve is smaller in diameter than all other mag valves (due to the bodies they were originally placed in, which had an extended shroud at the rear which covered most of the valve), and do NOT have an air input on the side of the valve. Rather, the air was routed through any of 3 holes on the sides of the Classic RT's rail, through the rear thumbscrew/field-strip bolt (a sort of banjo bolt), and into the valve. As such, the Classic RT valves were not listed with the RT Pro/Retro valves because it will NOT fit on mags other than the Classic RT for which it was designed.
-All valves are compatible with the level 10 bolt system sans the rental classic valves, as mention above.
14. How can I walk the trigger on my mag?
Many think that by simply adding a ULT on/off to a mag valve will make it walkable. However, this is not necessarily true. While it is true that the ULT does greatly reduce the force required to trip the sear, the ULT has more of an "RT effect" than it does truly making the trigger walkable. Some will attest that having a perfectly tuned ULT installed does make the trigger walkable, although it is hard to acheive this, and difficult to maintain for any period of time.
Add enough shims in your ULT, and you will get uncontrolled trigger bounce; essentially full-auto mode. This uncontrolled bounce, or "runaway", can also be acheived by increasing the input pressure in your valve via an adjustable tank. The higher the pressure, the faster the rebound rate. See Zak Vetter's famous vids here to get the full effect of this. To the tune of 32 bps.
Another option to lightening the trigger pull on your mag is to have a sear mod done (Luke on AO does them). This process places the sear clevis slightly higher up on the sear leg, requiring less distance to trip the sear (while still keeping the force to activate the sear relatively low). This mod, done in combination with a well-tuned ULT seems to produce fairly good results at making a mag trigger truly walkable.
Personally, I still stand by the good ol' pneumag method or any of the electronic frame options as discussed above, in the pursuit of an easily walkable trigger on a mag.
15. What is the ideal input pressure for my mag?
AGD recommends a tank with an output of 850psi, though 800psi is fine and success has been reported with pressures down to 700psi. Any tank with a high pressure regulator will work. Low pressure regulators will not work. Tanks with adjustable regs are commonly used with RT style valves (the greater the input pressure, the greater the trigger reactivity. See #13).
16. How to build a mechanical Automag [Automag parts basics]
See GT's guide on post #31 (page 2).
17. More info?
Parts/upgrades thread on PBN here: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1632449
Have more questions that should be added? Post them and I'll put them up.
on AO!


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Tuesday, December 18, 2007
The "Daly Planet" Christmas Present: Mike Joy
You might not recognize NASCAR VP Jim France on the left, or the late veteran New England racer and track promoter Ed Yerrington on the right. Chances are, however, you absolutely recognize the young man in the center of the picture.
No matter how you slice it, Mike Joy is one of the best-known NASCAR television personalities in the nation. There are plenty of reasons why.
Mike and I share the small town of West Hartford, CT in our respective histories. I graduated from Northwest Catholic, and Mike from Conard High right down the street. He went on to the University of Hartford, and then Emerson College in Boston, one of the top broadcasting and communications schools in the nation.
It's a long road from the PA Announcer at Riverside Speedway in Agawam, MA to the top NASCAR play-by-play position on TV today, but Joy has made the most of the journey. Older fans remember his years working for MRN, and his TV appearances for CBS as a pit reporter for the Daytona 500.
Moving to the play-by-play position, Joy anchored the first NASCAR race televised by ESPN and then years later, did the same for TNN. He called the NASCAR events on CBS, including the Daytona 500, and expanded his resume by covering Formula One for several seasons on Fox.
In February of 2001, the stars seemed to align when NASCAR on Fox hit the airwaves and took the nation's NASCAR fans by storm. The New York Times wrote "every TV motorsports race team should be measured against Fox's Mike Joy, Darrell Waltrip, and Larry McReynolds for pure intensity."
There are also some facts that most fans might not know about the Chicago-born Joy. He has driven in the 24 Hours of Daytona and won SCCA races at Lime Rock, Watkins Glen, Loudon and Pocono. He is a former Vice President of the National Motorsports Press Association, and even served a couple of elected terms on the Windsor, CT town council.
Now comfortable in the Lake Norman area of Greater Charlotte, Mike has been kind enough to give The Daly Planet readers an early Christmas present...his time.
He said he would be happy to field your questions about TV, NASCAR, racing, or any other topic that you feel would be appropriate to ask a veteran media personality. This opportunity does not come around very often, so my advice would be to focus on one topic, and make your question count.
Update: The Mike Joy mailbox is closed, the answers are being put together, and will be appearing shortly. Thank you for all the great questions.
His answers will appear in an article that will be posted on Friday evening. All we would ask is that you review the rules for posting on the right side of the main page before asking your question. Multiple questions in the same posting have not had a very good track record of being answered.
It has been a long year of very hard work putting The Daly Planet together, and I can't think of a better way to head into the Christmas break than by having Mike Joy stop by.
So, Merry Christmas from all of us and here is our little present to you. Ask NASCAR On Fox's Mike Joy the one thing you were always curious about, and come back Friday for your answer. Good luck!
50 comments:
- TexasRaceLady said...
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- December 17, 2007 at 8:15 PM
- Busch Series Fan! said...
Mike, many thanks for stopping by. Do you think Nascar is getting too expensive for one-car teams to field race cars and compete against the "big guys"? Thanks Vicky in Houston, Texas
- December 17, 2007 at 8:18 PM
- Anonymous said...
Thank you Mr. Joy for providing us fans the opportunity to ask questions of you.
This question has been asked of our other two fabulous guests, and I've been fascinated by the responses. What does your weekly schedule involve during the racing season? I imagine it's just as hectic as Steve's and Wendy's weeks, but I'd rather hear about it from you than make a guess.
Thanks again for your time,
KarenB in British Columbia
- December 17, 2007 at 8:47 PM
- TexasRaceLady said...
First, thank you for your time. It is a rare opportunity for an ordinary fan to meet a truly outstanding member of the media.
Second, my question, what is the most difficult interview you've ever had to do?
Thank you, again.
Palestine, TX
(reposted to correct an error)
- December 17, 2007 at 8:53 PM
- Kevin said...
Thanks for taking time to answer our questions! You really seem to enjoy your time during the Barrett-Jackson Auto auction. Do you get to test drive any of the cars?Are there any funny behind the scenes stories you can share? What other car/racing interests outside of NASCAR do you have? Thanks.
- December 17, 2007 at 9:10 PM
- Anonymous said...
Mike Joy,
Was there ever a more appropriately named broadcaster? You have brought us so much joy and pleasure throughout the years. And, you've been there to comfort us during the sad times.
What was the most difficult moment on air for you to report?
Can't wait to hear you again in February.
Best wishes,
- December 17, 2007 at 9:20 PM
- Anonymous said...
I love listening to you, Larry and DW call a race. How have the three of you developed such a good chemistry together?
Looking forward to hearing you call Daytona!
Ryan, Boulder, CO
- December 17, 2007 at 9:21 PM
- Newracefan said...
Mike, Thanks you so much for making time for us. My question also involves the actual broadcasting of the race. Can you describe what goes on in the booth during a race? I am picturing organized chaos, with voices in your ear and from the booth, yet you, DW, Larry Mac, etc always manage to give us race information we want (and the camera angles to back it up). I wish you could call all the Cup races.
Perkiomenville, PA
- December 17, 2007 at 9:44 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
Mike it was a "Joy" seeing you on Wind Tunnel the last race weekend of the season. You made me so homesick for the FOX Crew. Thanks for your giving of your time.
NASCAR's mantra is always "it's about the fans."
But between the bad coverage on tv this season ( Not FOX!), the COT switch, the homogenizing of the driver's personalities, more empty seats at the tracks and lower ratings, too many commercials, etc,something must be addressed.
If you were King for a Day, what would you like to see changed in order to better serve the fans of NASCAR.
near Cincinnati
- December 17, 2007 at 10:18 PM
- Matt said...
Hey Mike,
Thanks for taking time to talk with us. I have been a fan of yours since your TNN days with Neil Bonnett. What was broadcasting NASCAR back then on TNN like? How different is it now with FOX compared to back then on TNN? Thanks again, and keep up the great work on FOX and SPEED!
Matt, NYC
- December 17, 2007 at 11:21 PM
- Fan at Stafford said...
Mr. Joy, this question might be obscure to those not familiar with local racing in the northeast.
While here have not been serious quality control issues with NASCAR race fuel in many years, have you and the folks at FOX considered what you would do in the event Sunoco became the subject of serious criticism in the garage area?
(As a matter of explanation: Mike has been an equity partner and CEO with New England Race Fuels--the distributor of Sunoco racing gasoline at local tracks in the northeast)
- December 18, 2007 at 1:43 AM
- socalijeff said...
Hi there Mike. I look forward to the upcoming season of NASCAR on FOX with you, Larry, and DW. However I just wanted your opinion one little item. Last season's Daytona 500 ended with a dash to the checkers as a multi car crash was ensuing behind the race leaders. This was commended in some quarters and condemned in others regarding whether or not the yellow should have been waved immediately or after the 29 and 01 crossed the start/finish line. My question to you is this: do you believe that NASCAR should have a policy where racing to the yellow is allowed on the final lap of the race? I just watched the Spring 2002 Dover race that you covered on FX and it sure made me wish for the good ole days of the past in which racing back to the yellow was the norm. I understand why freezing the field was done in the name of safety, but NASCAR allowing racing back to the yellow on the final lap would be a good way to go in my opinion. Thank you very much.
- December 18, 2007 at 2:47 AM
- SallyB said...
Mr. Joy, Thank you for taking time during your off season the talk to the fans! As you know, many fans are disappointed with much of the race coverage lately. Since nothing is perfect, and not every race will be a 'barn burner' what do you think is necessary to make a race broadcast bring the excitement of a Nascar race come through to the viewers at home? Since most of us here have our own opinions, I'd really be interested to hear yours.
- December 18, 2007 at 6:35 AM
- Ritchie said...
Mike, Most NASCAR fans consider the FOX TV crew that you are associated with as the gold standard for race broadcasting. In your opinion, what differentiates you guys from the other broadcasts and why do you think fans prefer the FOX product over others?
Thanks for your time.
- December 18, 2007 at 7:36 AM
- joe said...
Hi Mike,
I met you about 11 years ago on a labor day double weekend up at Louden, NH you were running a spec racer. My question is do you still have that spec racer and do you still race it?
Joe Moroney
Woodbury, CT
- December 18, 2007 at 8:02 AM
- racefan1588 said...
You are one of the best in the business. And I think it's a shame we don't have more people like you in NASCAR.
Now my question: There have been a lot of changes in the sport over the past couple of years, what is one change you would like to see reversed and why?
Hope you and your family have a great Christmas Holiday!
- December 18, 2007 at 9:07 AM
- Bobb said...
Mike- fans on this blog have been critical of ESPN coverage this year , the biggest discussion was that they seem to be watching the TV monitors more than the track- My question would then be: how do you divide your time between watching the monitors - which have scoring info and broadcast previews and live feed and watching the live action on the track? -
explain how this is done between a short track/larger track like Daytona and a road course.
Thanks for your reply in advance and can't wait til Feb 9 2008.
- December 18, 2007 at 9:14 AM
- Chris said...
Do you plan on doing anything here in the Northeast during your upcoming year? Any charity events, attending local races, etc.?
Chris Pettit
Warren/New Milford, CT
- December 18, 2007 at 9:22 AM
- Garry said...
Mike, I am extremely glad you took the time to answer our questions. My question is not necessarily a NASCAR one, but it involves your passion of classic cars. When you do the Barrett-Jackson auction, my wife and I learn so much from your vast knowledge, it literally is a blast watching! What do you think of the website "Cars in Barns", and how sick does it make you feel that there are that many classic muscle cars rotting away in fields?
- December 18, 2007 at 10:02 AM
- darbar said...
Mike, all I have to say is thank God for Nascar on Fox. It's the only time during the Nascar season that I don't need to hit my mute button on the remote.
As you know, Nascar fans have been screaming against the so-called professional coverage provided by
TNT and ESPN, while at the same time the coverage Fox provides is generally applauded. What do you think Fox does with their production of Nascar that differs from the others?
Darlene (darbar)
Genesee, Wisconsin
- December 18, 2007 at 10:44 AM
- Alex said...
Is there anyone that you would have liked to work with in the booth, that you never had the chance for one reason or another?
- December 18, 2007 at 11:15 AM
- stricklinfan82 said...
Thank you very much for joining us. It is a great honor to get the chance to talk to the man I consider to be the greatest play-by-play announcer in the history of this sport.
During your career you've had the chance to work on the broadcasts of some of the most historic races in NASCAR history, and many of those races will forever be attached to your memorable calls from the booth. I was just wondering what you consider to be the most memorable moment of your broadcasting career, and if there is anything left that you haven't gotten a chance to do as a broadcaster that you would still like to accomplish before you retire?
Thank you very much for your time and I can't wait to see you on TV again at Daytona in February!
- December 18, 2007 at 11:28 AM
- Anonymous said...
Hi Mike. I was just wondering how you spend your time after the Fox portion of the season ends, and during your off-season how closely do you follow the sport? Do you attend any of the TNT/ESPN races in person? Do you just watch the races on TV like most fans, or do you have other interests that occupy your time and don't allow you to spend 4 hours every Sunday watching every lap of every race? Thanks for answering our questions and I hope you and your family have a Happy Holidays!
Michael in Pennsylvania
- December 18, 2007 at 11:35 AM
- Patrick said...
Mr. Joy, thanks so much for participating.
I, too, am very excited to know that you, DW and Larry Mac will be pontificating Nascar in less than two months time. However, next on my radar is the Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale auction.
My question(s): What amount of preparation do you do for this event? What items are you looking forward to? What collector cars, past or present, have graced your garage? Any wish list of cars?
Patrick in Round Rock, TX
JD, I hope these are related enough to stay posted or to pick from.
- December 18, 2007 at 11:43 AM
- jfs-va said...
Mike, I would just like to say that my son and I became NASCAR fans this year and the Daytona 500 was the first race we watched together.
You, DW, and Larry Mac brought that race to life. We're now fans for life. Thanks and can't wait to hear/see you at Daytona again.
Oh, no question, just wanted to say that.
- December 18, 2007 at 12:13 PM
- elena said...
Hi Mike, Thanks so much for taking time to answwer our questions. You and the Fox staff have raised the bar so high, I'm sure the other networks as besides themselves.
I think you are the best professional in yor role, but one thing no one can train for is chemistry in the booth. Because of that, I think Fox's broadcast is one of the secret weapons to bring in more NASCAR fans.
It seems that DW is one wild and crazy guy. Have you ever played any pranks or jokes on him? Or him on you and the rest of the gang?
I count the days till you and Fox return in Februrary.
- December 18, 2007 at 12:17 PM
- chase said...
John: I can't think of a better present - Mike Joy!!! Thank you so much and I wish you and your staff a very happy holiday season.
I do not have a question for Mike Joy - instead I wish to thank him on behalf of all NASCAR fans. Your credibility is so strong and consistent, your questions probing and your interviews go straight to the heart of the matter. I am sure that I am not the only one when I say that I am looking forward to hearing and seeing you in 2008 -- too bad, especially after the ESNP/ABC fiasco that was their NASCAR 'coverage', that we can't have you for the entire season -- you and Allan Bestwick would make a very formidable team!
Have a happy holiday Mike and thanks for your time.
- December 18, 2007 at 12:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
John, what a great Christmas present for us all. Thank you so much.
Mike, it seems like I have been hearing your voice as long as I have been following Nascar. I vividly remember that first race on CBS. The first time I ever "saw" a whole race. You've been around thru a lot of notable times in Nascar, thru scary dangerous wrecks, deaths of notable drivers, etc. Of all the stories of that nature, which was the hardest one for you personally to report on.
Can't wait to hear you again in Feb.
Ann in AZ
- December 18, 2007 at 1:20 PM
- Anonymous said...
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!
- December 18, 2007 at 1:28 PM
- John Potts said...
John, thank you. Mike, thanks for being available. I just want to know if working with DW and Larry Mac is as much fun as it looks. Sometimes you seem like a hockey referee - throw down the puck and get out of the way.
- December 18, 2007 at 1:31 PM
- Brian said...
Mike, first off thank you very much for stopping by. You make watching these races very fun, as you have for many years. I was just wondering from your days as a pit reporter to the present, who has been your biggest inspiration, to become what you have today?
- December 18, 2007 at 1:45 PM
- Anonymous said...
Mike you and Bob Varsha are the top 2 race announcers today. Who would you put in your class from the old days of radio and early TV?
- December 18, 2007 at 3:19 PM
- glenc1 said...
Mike, in recent years it seems as though we hear more constructive criticism of NASCAR during broadcasts than in the old (CBS) days--I know race control is somewhere in a booth close to yours during a race--how do you balance expressing your opinions with knowing the NASCAR officials may not always like what you have to say?
- December 18, 2007 at 3:36 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
JD- Thank you very much for arranging this.
MIKE- Thank you for taking your time to consider questions. I really enjoyed your announcing of F1 races and I do really enjoy your outstanding work on FOX. Other than NASCAR, what kind of racing do you enjoy watching - especially after the FOX part of the NASCAR season. Thank you, and Merry Christmas.
- December 18, 2007 at 3:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
Hello Mike,
Your versatility and depth of knowledge about cars and motorsports is truly something to be admired.
My question is this: did you ever have a desire to do more behind the wheel, or were you always more drawn to being behind the mic?
Thank you in advance for your time and answering our questions.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to Everyone!
Orlando, FL
- December 18, 2007 at 3:46 PM
- Sam Walker said...
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- December 18, 2007 at 4:05 PM
- Sam Walker said...
Now that you have run the gauntlet of just about every position involving a microphone in racing (public address announcer, radio and TV pit reporter, radio and TV play-by-play) which was/is the most difficult, the easiest, and the most rewarding and why?
Sam, Outer Banks NC
- December 18, 2007 at 4:06 PM
- Vince said...
Thanks for taking the time to answer some of our questions Mike. I'm old enough to remember seeing or hearing (in the case of MRN) most of your firsts in broadcasting.
I've heard that you sometimes have used the Internet and Usenet newsgroups to prepare for broadcasts. My question is have you ever used this blog to prepare for a broadcast or taken any suggestions mentioned here to change something in a broadcast? Those of us who regularly post here would like to think maybe we some how can make a difference in the coverage we are currently getting of all things Nascar.
Keep up the good work. You're a true professional in the booth.
Vince from MI
- December 18, 2007 at 6:58 PM
- Rich said...
Hi Mikle, Thanks for taking some time for us fans. I would like to ask if you think the chase format is good for the sport and has the media given it too much attention and taken something away from the overall racing the last 10 races of the year Rich Hemet CA
- December 18, 2007 at 7:46 PM
- Anonymous said...
Thanks for participating in this Q&A. My question is, how much preparation do you do for your appearances on Wind Tunnel?
- December 18, 2007 at 8:03 PM
- Anonymous said...
Mike, thanks for taking the time. When the Fox contract started in 2001, you had two very green broadcasters as partners in DW and Larry. We all remember the last lap of your first race together, but I remember that the rest of the race went pretty smoothly as well, first time out or not. How did you and the rest of the Fox team get them prepared and up to speed so successfully? We've certainly learned this year that that doesn't happen automatically ...
- December 18, 2007 at 8:58 PM
- SonicAD said...
Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, you're one of my favorite announcers in all of sports!
My question is, what is your weekend schedule like, and how does it get affected when there's a long rain delay and/or postponement?
Frank, Michigan
- December 18, 2007 at 9:59 PM
- Bobby said...
How well does the entire production truck cooperate with the booth team? It seems there is more cooperation between the three of you with Z, Barry, and Artie than any other booth and the truck.
- December 18, 2007 at 10:27 PM
- Tripp said...
Firstly, thanks for spending time with us.
I've been a racing fan since the 60s when ABC wedged the fast four wheels in between cliff diving and some other obscure sport.
When Fox won the NASCAR contract, I'll admit that my trepidation was up there because I'd grown accustomed to the coverage from Bob Jenkins, Larry Nuber, Buddy Baker, Ned Jarrett and the rest. Boy were my fears unjustified. By the time a few Fox races were in the can, I was a fan.
Your team, from the crew in the booth,the team on pit road, and the folks in the truck all just get it, and bring us the best coverage this sport has yet sen. My question is, how did your team capture this lightning-in-a-bottle? The whole is clearly greater than the sum of the parts. Why do you think this is so?
Thanks again Mike. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year... from a fellow New Englander.
- December 18, 2007 at 10:35 PM
- Alex said...
Thank you very much Mike for taking the time to answer these questions. I'm sure you get this a lot but...
What advice would you give for someone (like me) who would like to break into NASCAR/auto racing play-by-play broadcasting?
Alex F. - Brooklyn, NY
- December 18, 2007 at 10:48 PM
- Matt said...
Mike, thanks so much for taking time to answer our questions.
During the many years you have covered this sport, the face of the average fan has changed. When calling a race "today", do you try and discuss certain topics that appeal to the new fans as opposed to things you may have discussed several years ago?
Thanks again,
Matt, Rochester NY
- December 19, 2007 at 12:07 AM
- KudzuCarl said...
Prior to the 2001 Daytona 500, FOX showed a feature where Earnhardt took Terry Bradshaw around the track in a street car. As those things go, I'm sure that a lot of great stuff was edited out in the interest of time. Since Dale's death, I've often wondered why FOX didn't put together an expanded or unedited version of that feature and sell it. I'd sure pay for it. Have you seen the unedited footage? Is it as good as I imagine?
Thanks for all you do. You are classy guy who stands far above your competition.
- December 19, 2007 at 8:53 AM
- AndyPandy said...
Mike, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions.
Now it's time for a serious question on a vital subject. Do you folks in the booth get to eat during a race, and if so, has it ever caused a problem (spilled food, mouth full when asked a question), and without mentioning names, did any commentators back in the early days of TV racing coverage have an adult beverage or two during races like some of the MNF guys allegedly did?
- December 19, 2007 at 10:56 AM
- Anonymous said...
Mike, thanks for taking the time for us fans and JD thanks for all your effort this year.
One of the things that really impacted my race enjoyment, was the next day after a race, to read on the internet, that there were ten or twenty or whatever number of pit road penalties, non of which was mentioned in the recent TV coverage. Only then do I figure out why my guy (or other cars for that matter) fell so far behind. I don't remember this being the case on the FOX broadcasts.
How are these penalties handled/reported by the FOX crew?
Springville CA
- December 19, 2007 at 12:12 PM
- Anonymous said...
Hello, Mike!
Thanks for taking the time to answer some questions from the community of race fans! I do remember seeing you race at a number of SCCA events when my family was active in SCCA.
My question is:
Given the changes you've seen and experienced in your 35+ years of radio and TV work, and with the increasing presence of the internet, where do you see the future of autosports coverage evolving to in future years?
Many thanks!
Tom in Dayton, OH.
- December 19, 2007 at 2:09 PM


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"There is no second chance ... there is no margin of error whatsoever."
That's why, says Dr. Omer Mei-Dan, he and others who enjoy base jumping and wingsuit flying are grieving but aren't surprised by the recent deaths of two high-profile extreme sports enthusiasts.
Mark Sutton, the English parachutist who was "James Bond" at last summer's opening ceremony of the London Olympics, died Aug. 14 in Switzerland when he flew into a rocky ridge while "flying" in a wingsuit. Mario Richard, a Canadian, died Aug. 19 in Italy "when he apparently failed to clear a rock by three meters." Richard also was wingsuiting.
Mei-Dan told NPR's Robert Siegel on Monday that an estimated 6 to 7 percent of the 3,000 or so "base jumpers" who use wingsuits or parachutes die each year — an astronomical number when you consider that the USA's most dangerous job, logging, has an annual fatality rate well under 1 percent of the workforce.
Base jumpers and wingsuit flyers, Mei-Dan says, are experienced. They've typically parachuted hundreds of times, or more, before trying to fly from buildings, cliffs and towers. The same goes for those who drop from helicopters above mountains and canyons, and then use their wingsuits to try to whiz by as close as possible to the rocks and ridges below.
Among the dangers, says Mei-Dan, is the temptation to "push the envelope": To try to go closer to a rock wall, for instance, than anyone else. "When you push the envelope and you don't have a margin of error, you [can] pay for it," he says, with your life.
So why do it? The experience of flying toward the ground in a wingsuit is "almost indescribable," Mei-Dan says. "It's something that you really have to try to understand what type of feeling you get when you're freefalling next to a cliff."
There are many videos on the Web of wingsuit flyers — many of them heavily edited productions with dramatic music. This one posted by Sutton in 2012, though, offers a pretty good sense of the physical challenge of getting to a takeoff point — in this case, on Mount Eiger in Switzerland — and then the thrill of flying down.
Much more from Robert's conversation with Mei-Dan is due later Monday on All Things Considered. We'll add the as-broadcast version of the conversation to the top of this post. To find an NPR station that broadcasts or streams the slow, click here.
From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Melissa Block.
And I'm Robert Siegel. This is what flying sounds like.
MARK SUTTON: Three, two, one, see you.
SIEGEL: Almost a year ago, Mark Sutton climbed to the peak of the Eiger in Switzerland and jumped. Instead of falling, Sutton glided. He was wearing a wingsuit that expanded, making him look like a giant, flying squirrel. After several minutes, he landed among friends in a field far below.
SUTTON: Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo, my God. These suits are just amazing.
SIEGEL: Mark Sutton was an experienced sky-diver. He was also the stunt man who flew into the Olympic Stadium in London during the opening ceremony dressed as James Bond. Sutton died earlier this month on a wingsuit jump from a helicopter in Switzerland. Since then, at least two more men have died in wingsuit jumps, Mario Richard and Alvaro Bulto. Clearly, this kind of wingsuit jumping is an extreme sport. But just how dangerous is it?
Well, Dr. Omer Mei-Dan is an orthopedist who specializes in sports medicine at the University of Colorado Medical School. Dr. Mei-Dan, welcome to the program.
DR. OMER MEI-DAN: Hey, how are you?
SIEGEL: You've addressed this question of how dangerous it. How common is death in a wingsuit?
MEI-DAN: Unfortunately, very common. In the past month or so, we've seen more than 10 fatalities. The majority, nine out of 10, were using wingsuits.
SIEGEL: You actually have written a scholarly article about this and looked at 39 deaths of people who were using wingsuits. And I gather that death was as often caused by hitting a cliff or, in one case, a building on the way down, as hitting the ground at the end of the jump.
MEI-DAN: That's correct. And one of the main thing with proximity flying, meaning jumping off a cliff with a wingsuit and trying, as opposed to fly away from the cliff, fly next to the cliff and trying to out-fly various geographical features, you have to judge the flight path way before you're actually getting there and trying to out-fly that specific feature. And if you have, like, the smallest mistake you can actually impact the cliff quite easily.
SIEGEL: How faster people falling in that descent?
MEI-DAN: Anywhere between 90 to 140 miles per hour.
SIEGEL: I should say here BASE jumping, the BASE here is an acronym which describes the fixed points people jumped from. BASE is buildings, antennas, spans and the Earth. You've done this?
MEI-DAN: Oh, hundreds of hundreds of times.
SIEGEL: And how would you describe the sensation of doing it?
MEI-DAN: Oh, it's almost indescribable. It's something that you really have to try - even so, you know, it's very hard - to understand what the feeling you get once you're free-falling just next to a cliff or next to a building in the middle of the night. And the problem with BASE jumping, specifically with proximity flying with a wingsuit, is there is no second chance. There is no margin for error at all, whatsoever. So the slightest mistake would be a death.
SIEGEL: In one of the YouTube videos about BASE jumping in these wingsuits, or squirrels suits, a jumper named Jeb Corliss has a near fatal accident jumping off Table Mountain in Cape Town, South Africa. His friend and fellow jumper, Joby Ogwyn, says and I'm quoting, "All of our friends are dead from climbing or BASE jumping or wingsuit flying. They've all been wiped out. It's kind of just a few of us left."
Does this story fit into the category of when bad things happen to crazy people who are taking ridiculous risks?
MEI-DAN: It's very hard for me to relate to crazy people or ridiculous risks. And Jeb Corliss is one of my best friends. We've been jumping together for almost 15 years now. And the thing is that most of these guys are guys with a lot of knowledge and experience. But sometimes, like every extreme sport out there, they're trying to push the envelope. And when you push the envelope and you don't have, again, margin for error, you pay for it.
SIEGEL: You can stay comfortably inside the envelope in this sport, and still be doing something incredibly dangerous.
MEI-DAN: Well, you know, everybody obviously perceive it to be differently. You can find BASE jumps which are more casual and less put you into a position where you can actually die. And we usually, when we look at a new jump, we look at the percentage - how we perceive that percentage of surviving that jump. Jeff and myself jumped the Eiffel Tower and it was a very dangerous jump, but we both managed to survive it because we planned it well.
SIEGEL: When we speak of Mark Sutton and Mario Richard, as people who died doing this, are they two out of thousands of people who do this sort of thing, or two out of a couple of hundred people who do it? How many people are engaged in this?
MEI-DAN: We don't have, like, an actual registration of how many people are doing it. But we assume, you know, with personal communication with the guys who are actually manufacturing these wingsuits, that there's about 3,000 BASE jumpers. And I would say that maybe out of these, less than 10 percent actually utilize wingsuits to jump off cliffs.
SIEGEL: You're talking about, about 300 people or so...
MEI-DAN: Yeah. Yeah.
SIEGEL: ...of whom there are commonly deaths.
MEI-DAN: Yeah, we lose about six to seven percent a year.
SIEGEL: You're a father of three.
MEI-DAN: Yeah, I'm a father of three.
SIEGEL: Have you push the envelope as far as you care to push it? Or would you still try to make your jumps higher, faster, farther?
MEI-DAN: I've definitely modified my jumping regime since I had my kids. I keep one jumping but, yeah, I can definitely say that having a family, having kids made me look at things a little bit differently.
SIEGEL: Well, Dr. Omer Mei-Dan, of the University of Colorado Medical School, thanks a lot for talking with us.
MEI-DAN: Thank you. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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New laws sponsored by local legislators
More than 125 of the bills -- establishing new state laws or repealing or revising previous laws -- adopted during the Colorado Legislature's 2013 session are fully or partly taking effect on Wednesday.
Among those are several measures sponsored by legislators whose districts represent parts of Boulder or southern Larimer counties or the city and county of Broomfield.
House bills
Boulder Democratic Sen. Rollie Heath's House Bill 1001 creates the Advanced Industries Acceleration grant program with the Colorado Office of Economic Development and International Trade to distribute millions of grant dollars annually to companies in specified industries such as advanced manufacturing, aerospace, bioscience, electronics, energy and natural resources, infrastructure engineering and information technology.
Longmont Democratic Rep. Jonathan Singer's and Sen. Heath's House Bill 1036 will allow sales-tax-supported local improvement districts, such as unincorporated Boulder County's Niwot LID and its nearby Cottonwood Square LID, to add non-contiguous properties to their districts if property owners petition to be included. The bill also authorizes the districts to spend part of their tax collections on organizing, promoting, marketing and managing public events.
Windsor Republican Rep. Perry Buck's House Bill 1109 will keep mandatory protection orders against a convict who is sentenced to prison in effect until the person is discharged from supervised parole.
Boulder Democratic Rep. Claire Levy's House Bill 1136 creates the Job Protection and Civil Rights Enforcement Act of 2013. It establishes procedures for people complaining of discriminatory or unfair employment actions to seek damage awards in state courts after pursuing administrative options through the Colorado Civil Rights Commission or the State Personnel Board.
Levy's House Bill 1156 creates an adult diversion program in which a district attorney may suspend prosecution of a person suspected of a crime, either before or after formal charges are filed, if the individual is eligible and meets the conditions set forth in a diversion agreement.
Singer's House Bill 1260 removes from previous law an annual limit on how many occasions a nonprofit state bingo license holder can conduct bingo games. Licensees previously were limited to holding 35 bingo game events each year.
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Berthoud-area Republican Sen. Kevin Lundberg's Senate Bill 10 adds the deans of Colorado's accredited allopathic and osteopathic medical schools to the state's Commission on Family Medicine. House Majority Leader Dickey Lee Hullinghorst, D-Gunbarrel, carried the bill in the House.
Gilpin County Democratic Sen. Jeanne Nicholson's Senate Bill 151 extends through Sept. 1, 2022, the state's regulatory oversight over massage therapists, which would have expired on July 1. The bill, carried in the House by Rep. Dianne Primavera, D-Broomfield, also replaces the previous law's massage therapy registration requirements with licensing requirements, allowing increased disciplinary action if state rules are violated.
Nicholson's and Primavera's Senate Bill 242 adds dental services for adults to the list of health services provided to Medicaid recipients. The state Department of Health Care Policy and Financing must design the benefit and implement services by April 1.
LONGMONT -- Come Wednesday, 16- and 17-year-old Coloradans can pre-register to vote in future elections, under a new state law sponsored by Longmont Democratic Rep. Jonathan Singer.
Those Colorado youths won't actually cast ballots in local, state and national elections until they reach age 18. But Singer's House Bill 1135, which takes effect Wednesday, will automatically convert pre-registered 16- and 17-year-olds to registered voter status -- and let them begin voting -- once they've turned 18.
Singer has said his measure is a way of "getting kids invested in the democratic process" in their teens, something he predicted "will help turn them into voters the rest of their lives."
Singer's bill will eventually allow 16- and 17-year-olds to pre-register to vote when they get their driver's licenses at Colorado Division of Motor Vehicles offices. But that part of the voter pre-registration law won't take effect until Jan. 1, a delay Singer said the DMV wanted so it could make the necessary computer and paperwork changes.
Beginning Wednesday, those teenagers can pre-register at their local county clerks' offices or through links and forms available on the Colorado Secretary of State's website, sos.state.co.us.
A teen seeking pre-registered voter status will have to affirm that he or she is a U.S. citizen and Colorado resident, is at least 16 years old, and that the person understands he or she must be 18 years old to vote.
Similar voter pre-registration proposals, including one from then-Rep. Deb Gardner, D-Longmont, in 2011 and a Singer bill in 2012, failed to pass in previous legislation sessions. Both measures died in what was a Republican-controlled Colorado House of Representatives.
This year, however, Singer's House Bill 1135 the Democratic-controlled state House and Senate. Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, signed it into law in May.
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