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It was another massive night in the association, with monster lines and a monster game late in the Bruski Bowl, where the Kings and Warriors decided to play a game without defense. Let's get right to it.
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The Washington Shuffle
The Wizards trudged into Orlando last night after losing an overtime game to the Hawks the night before, and without Bradley Beal (back) they lost their fifth game in a row while Randy Wittman continued to play musical chairs with his lineups. Earl Barron (two points, five boards, one steal, 1-of-6 FGs, 20 minutes) started over Chris Singleton (16 minutes), while Wittman rode Emeka Okafor (27 minutes, eight points, 12 rebounds, one block) and Nene (25 minutes, 20 points, 8-of-10 FGs, two rebounds, one block) in the frontcourt.
Kevin Seraphin continued to annoy owners with just 23 minutes of action, scoring six points on 3-of-9 shooting with two rebounds, two assists, and two blocks. I spent a lot of time talking about Seraphin yesterday, but the idea is still essentially the same. He's getting toyed with now, but projects to be a much better second-half of the year player as the injury prone frontcourt wears down and Wittman is either fired or relents. Feel free to drop Seraphin if you're fed up, but his upside and chance of bouncing back makes him a pretty good stash, nonetheless. As for Nene, he reported that he's still feeling pain in his foot and that's enough for me to stay away. Okafor and Barron aren't worth the time outside of very deep leagues.
I took a flier on Cartier Martin (11 points, three treys, five rebounds) in a deeper 12-team big money league, and he has more or less held onto his late-round value over the past week. Truthfully, I wasn't expecting much as it was a throwaway add with the hopes of catching lightning in a bottle, but on a bad team with plenty of injuries he has an outside shot at holding some value. Jordan Crawford (19 points, four rebounds, six assists, two steals, three treys, seven turnovers) isn't very efficient, but he's a must-start player until further notice. Beal sounds like he could return soon, so owners should be holding in most circumstances.
Big Baby Goes Down
Glen Davis (12 points, nine boards, two blocks) went down at the end of last night's game with a serious looking left shoulder injury, and he will get an MRI today to determine his fate. A separated shoulder could cost him weeks, while a torn labrum could end his season. If Baby misses time, it will be a boon to the value of J.J. Redick (17 points, four threes, three assists, 26 minutes), Jameer Nelson (eight points, five assists, three steals, 31 minutes), and Arron Afflalo (15 points, three boards, three assists, two steals). Davis is averaging 14.8 field goal attempts per game, and those three guys will be the first to pick those up.
The question for owners looking for beneficiaries is going to be which fringe player picks up the slack, with candidates in Moe Harkless (nine points, seven rebounds, two steals, 18 minutes), E'Twaun Moore (15 points, 6-of-10 FGs, three treys, two assists, two steals), or Andrew Nicholson (zero points, six minutes). Moore was productive earlier in the season when Nelson was out, and even held some very low-end value at times when Nelson was in. Harkless has shown flashes but has been very inconsistent, and Nicholson has been productive recently but is shaky himself as evidenced by last night's outing. The Magic could very well start Josh McRoberts in Baby's place, but he is usually an empty calorie guy despite having a somewhat versatile fantasy game. Gustavo Ayon (three points, eight boards, three assists, one steal, 16 minutes) has been an interesting name in the past, but has been invisible all season.
Add in the nearing return of Hedo Turkoglu, who profiles as the most likely to do damage in fantasy leagues but also has plenty of injury risk, and Al Harrington's return further down the line and it's a muddy situation to say the least. Owners may want to just keep their finger near the add button on Friday when the Magic head into Toronto.
Monroe's Monster Night
It was Greg Monroe night in Toronto despite the Pistons' loss, as he scored a career-high 35 points on 14-of-22 shooting (7-of-8 FTs) with 10 rebounds, two assists, and two steals. He's going to disappear every once in a while but these types of nights will even things out for the mid-round value. He'll need to start bringing it every night to meet his lofty ADP. Brandon Knight hit just 1-of-10 shots for two points, four rebounds, and six assists, and I'm simply not as high as others about a guy with ninth and 15th round value in 8- and 9-cat leagues, respectively. Owners definitely have to punt in his deficient areas to get their money's worth. Rodney Stuckey (back spasms) played and resumed his resurgence with a serviceable 13 points on 5-of-12 shooting, four assists and one three in 29 minutes off the bench. He has crept back into the top-100 over the past two weeks.
Sifting for Gold
As predicted yesterday, the two beneficiaries of Andrea Bargnani's absence had another see-saw moment, as Amir Johnson's ankle injury appeared to put Ed Davis (11 points, nine boards, two blocks, 28 minutes) in the driver seat. Johnson eventually returned to the game to keep the situation muddled, and finished with five points, nine rebounds, two steals, and one block in 21 minutes. Dwane Casey said that Johnson probably shouldn't have returned and he was seen limping in the locker room afterwards, so don't be surprised if the ankle swells up overnight and he is questionable for Friday's game. I'd view both players as low-end guys better suited for 14-team leagues until one can emerge as a clear winner in the position battle.
Jonas Valanciunas scored 12 points on 5-of-6 shooting with five rebounds, one assist, and one block in his 27 minutes, and is still just a stash for the hopes that he can take the next step. Those close to the team are still happy with the player, but he needs to show owners something in the next two weeks before the inscription on this season's tombstone gets carved out.
Jose Calderon hit a wall offensively with just seven points on 2-of-8 shooting (including two threes), but he handed out 17 assists to keep the theoretic talk of him stealing Kyle Lowry's job on the back burner. It seems unlikely that this will happen, but it will be contingent upon Lowry's attitude, health, shot selection, and willingness to play defense – and not just his offensive ability.
Alan Anderson paid off owners that added him after he burst onto the scene this week, scoring 16 points on 4-of-11 shooting with three rebounds, two steals, and three treys in 26 minutes. He didn't see much time during the first half, which was somewhat strange given his recent strong play, but he played the game's final 18 minutes and continued to draw positive marks from opposing beat writers. I think he's a must-own player in 12-team formats even with the wing corps in Toronto getting healthier.
The Jeffersonian Institute
The Jazz got throttled last night by the Pacers in a 20-point loss, and while I'm not optimistic they'll figure it out they need to find some stability outside of dumping the ball into Al Jefferson so much. Jefferson hit just 1-of-8 shots for four points, six boards, and one block in 22 minutes before the game was over, and if the Jazz are going to be one-dimensional they're going to take losses like this when he's off his game.
Owners can probably throw the box score out in terms of long-term analysis, but Gordon Hayward owners (including yours truly) are smarting after this one. In his return to Indiana, he played just 13 minutes in front of friends and family and posted an ugly five turnovers to go with eight points, two boards, one assist, and one steal. I'm not going to sit here and tell folks to hold him indiscriminately, but he's a guy that the Jazz have to get going if they have any designs on the playoffs this season. I'm also seeing more talk in Jazz land about his lack of minutes, with equal parts complaining about both the coach and the player, but as I've said a million times he profiles as a better second half play for a somewhat injury-prone team that might trade away players at the deadline.
Derrick Favors made noise with 16 points, nine rebounds, one steal, and three blocks in 28 minutes off the bench, which is a bit misleading because of the garbage time, but Ty Corbin was forced to say after the game that he'd be sticking with Favors off the bench. Also in the broken record category, he is a nice low-end play right now that doubles as a walking lottery ticket. His foot issues appear to be behind him for the most part, too.
Pacemaker George
Paul George kept his foot on the gas with 20 points on 9-of-13 shooting with 11 rebounds, one steal, four blocks, and two threes. Those struggles seem like eons ago. Roy Hibbert didn't truly take advantage, but owners will take a 12-point, four-rebound, four-assist effort with a steal and two blocks with open arms nowadays as long as he hits 50 percent of his shots like he did last night. George Hill cruised with 20 points, five boards, and five assists while hitting 8-of-13 shots with two threes in the win.
Because of the blowout win, we saw an appearance from none other than Gerald Green, who scored 21 points on 7-of-12 shooting with four threes and one assist over 23 minutes in a mostly hollow line. Maybe this will be the game that gets his confidence back, but his body of work has been atrocious and the Pacers offense has major consistency issues. I'm holding off until he can back it up at least once, and probably twice or three times.
The Brooklyn Debts
The Nets lost but Deron Williams got back on track in Round 3 of the battle of New York, scoring 16 points on 7-of-12 shooting with five rebounds, 10 assists, and two threes. It's progress, but I don't think any of us are truly comfortable with him right now. Joe Johnson cooled off with 17 points on 5-of-14 shooting, two rebounds, three assists, and a steal, but hitting three treys he operated within his sweet spot as a 3-point reliant fantasy producer. As usual, I'm all about selling him somewhat high.
Brook Lopez appears to be getting back on track after his foot injury with 16 points, 10 boards, one steal, and one block, and owners might want to consider long-term plans to move him after a solid stretch. It's just hard to trust that foot. Kris Humphries (zero points, nine rebounds, 18 minutes) showed his true colors yet again, and Andray Blatche can be thrown back to the scrap heap after a seven-point, two-rebound effort in 16 minutes even if he did tally a steal and block. Gerald Wallace scuffled with six points, five boards, and one three in 38 minutes. His consistency has been a problem this season and it's not just because he plays with ball-dominant players on a somewhat deep team. Crash is still well worth owning, but he's not going to be the fantasy force that some owners probably thought they were buying into on draft day.
Hello Melo
Carmelo Anthony (ankle) returned and wasted no time getting the Knicks back on track, scoring 31 points on 12-of-22 shooting with four threes, three boards, two steals, and one block. J.R. Smith has smoothed out some small speed bumps and had another nice night with 19 points on 7-of-11 shooting, one three, five boards, three assists, and one block. Raymond Felton struggled and it's probably fairly safe to assume the bone bruises on his hands are at least part of it. He hit just 4-of-15 shots and has been ice cold in that department for a while now, finishing with eight points, five rebounds, four assists, and a steal. Owners shouldn't be looking to sell-low here, and if anything it's a buy-low moment as he'll eventually get those hands healed up and start hitting at a more palatable clip.
Tyson Chandler's comeback in fantasy leagues has been complete for a bit, but he added another 16 points, 12 rebounds, one steal, and three blocks to his resume last night. Jason Kidd hit just 2-of-9 shots (all threes) but continued to put up versatile numbers with seven points, eight rebounds, five assists, and three steals as the dream season continues. It's certainly a sell-high moment with Iman Shumpert eventually set to return and give the old man a bit of a break.
The Zeller Dwellers
Anderson Varejao's knee knock from Tuesday night ended up knocking him out of last night's contest, and the fact that the Celtics only won by 12 points should be a blemish on Boston's record. Dion Waiters hit just 6-of-15 shots for 13 points with four rebounds, four assists, and one steal, and he'll need to improve his shot selection to take the proverbial step forward. He's still a big part of the Cavs' plans and I like him as a must-own player in 12-team formats, but a 36.3 percent field goal percentage has kept his value at a borderline level in 12-14 team leagues. Unlike a guy like Kemba Walker who can't go up and over guys, I like Waiters' chances to improve in that area a bit more if we're comparing athletically gifted rookies from two different seasons.
Tyler Zeller gave those owners stashing him a gift last night in his start for Varejao, scoring a career-high 20 points on 9-of-15 shooting, but he managed just three rebounds with two assists and a steal in his 36 minutes. I guess we'll call it a win because Zeller has been an empty calorie guy on most nights, and needs to show he can put up numbers and he did that in at least one category. Tristan Thompson double-doubled with 11 points, 12 boards, two steals, and two blocks, but hit just 2-of-10 shots and will struggle when Varejao returns so I'm not biting as readers probably already know. C.J. Miles finally crapped out, scoring three points on 1-of-5 shooting and not much else in his 17 minutes. No surprise there.
Paul Ball
Jason Terry was moved into the starting lineup because Doc Rivers "likes him with Rondo," and he bounced back from a two-point outing to score 15 points with three treys, three boards, and four assists. Avery Bradley (shoulders) is targeting a return on January 2, but owners should just hang onto Terry and see where this heads as he could easily hold late-round value and has some slight upside if things start to gel.
The big story for the Celtics was Paul Pierce's 40 points on 13-of-16 shooting, though. He added eight rebounds, five assists, three steals, one block, and hit 6-of-7 threes and 8-of-8 freebies. Don't look now but the old man has top-20 value, which should serve as yet another reminder to owners to not rule out proven players in their golden years. Brandon Bass was moved to the bench for Jason Collins (one point, two boards, one block, 23 minutes) and scored four points with three rebounds in his 27 minutes. Drop him for a player with more upside. Jeff Green (14 minutes) has fallen back off the map, which has been a theme throughout his Boston career.
A Thunder's Dozen
The Thunder have been a pleasant surprise to cover this season, simply because Scott Brooks isn't messing with Serge Ibaka anymore (he now does that in mild fashion to Kevin Martin). They have won 12 straight and Brooks is the only thing that stands between them and an NBA title. I said last season that if they didn't win three of the next five titles that it would be a disappointment, though the swapping of James Harden for Martin might have shifted that prediction to 2-of-5 titles. Thunder fans need to keep an eye on Kendrick Perkins' minutes, and stay vocal when Brooks refuses to pull his big man when the situation calls for it (which is most of the time).
Fantasy-wise, it was more of the same. Russell Westbrook beasted for 27 points and 11 assists, and Kevin Durant scored a season-high 41 points with 13 boards, three assists, two blocks, a 4-of-8 mark from deep, and a 9-of-10 mark from the line. Martin scored just six points on 3-of-9 shooting with two rebounds and one steal in 26 minutes, but he'll bounce back. He's just the odd man out at times and Brooks doesn't go out of his way to make sure he gets the ball. Ibaka hit just 2-of-9 shots for four points, but had 14 rebounds and three blocks in 34 minutes as the season he should have had last year carries on.
Teague Time
Jeff Teague was fired up to play in the battle of freakishly athletic point guards, and finished with 19 points on 9-of-13 shooting, nine assists, one block, and one three. He has been a top-70 player this season, which is a mild disappointment compared to his ADP but if you recall ankle concerns gave him a small discount. Josh Smith started slow but picked it up late to finish with 17 points, 12 boards, three assists, two blocks, and a three while hitting 8-of-19 shots. With just fourth and sixth round value in 8- and 9-cat formats on the year, he's going to have to post a massive comeback to pay back owners for his putrid start. I railed about our lack of hype for Kyle Korver yesterday and he paid me off with nine points on 3-of-10 shooting, three treys, five rebounds, three assists, four steals, and three blocks. He is central to what the Hawks do every night and he is a must-start player as long as he is healthy. Congrats to those that picked him up.
Fishing in Philly
The banged up Sixers lost to the Rockets in Houston by 22 points in a high-scoring game. Jrue Holiday (foot) did not play last night and while it sounds like he could play on Friday, the Sixers aren't going to take any chances like they said earlier in the day. Evan Turner, who has benefited greatly from Holiday's absence, was also added to the injury report last night after suffering a left ankle injury. He returned to the game but left once again, ending his night after 21 minutes of action. He said that he's going to be okay, and while he still needs to be evaluated for Friday's game owners can breathe a sigh of relief.
Dorell Wright wasted no time backing up his seven-trey game from Tuesday with 20 points on 7-of-15 shooting, three 3-pointers, six rebounds, and six assists in 40 minutes off the bench. This was the type of form he showed early in the year, and it's unclear whether it was an injury or lack of confidence that caused him to be put in the corner all season. With all the injuries and playing behind injury-prone Jason Richardson, there is definitely a short-term window with some slight upside in the event everything breaks the right way for Wright. Richardson wasn't great last night, but he scored 11 points on 5-of-10 shooting with three rebounds, one steal, and one three in 31 minutes. Yes, Wright is hot and things could get crowded, but with a body of work that has been a mid-round value all season, I can't see passing him up in most 8- and 9-cat formats even with his injury risk.
Thaddeus Young scored 17 points with six rebounds, five assists, one steal, and one block, and he should be primed for a big week with the way things are shaping up. Nick Young took all of my talk about McDonald's fish fillets yesterday and made me eat every single one of them with 21 points, four rebounds, four assists, one steal, one block, and two threes. Yes, he's worth a look, but I'll eat another 10 fish fillets if he keeps up with the versatile production. Spencer Hawes scored 14 points with six rebounds and four turnovers in 24 foul-plagued minutes, but if that qualifies as a bad night for the recent low-end value then it's a win. Give him a hard look if you need a big man in standard formats.
Rocket Fuel
With 125 points on their side of the ledger, there were some beefy fantasy lines for the Rockets last night. James Harden scored 33 points with two threes and seven assists, but as usual the most impressive part was his 7-of-12 shooting from the field and 17-of-18 mark from the line. Efficiency monster. Jeremy Lin joined the party with 18 points on 8-of-12 shooting and six assists, Omer Asik bounced back from some tough outings with 17 points and 15 rebounds but he did not have a block. He did manage 7-of-9 makes from the charity stripe, and owners will gladly take that swap if it can lead to improvement.
Chandler Parsons had a slow night with nine points on 4-of-13 shooting, five rebounds, four assists, three steals, and one three. He has hit just 12-of-33 shots over his last three games, and shooting is still a slight concern for his owners, but after the year he has had I'd call this a small buy low moment. Marcus Morris finally took advantage of Patrick Patterson's (foot) absence, scoring 14 points on 5-of-8 shooting with two threes, five rebounds, five assists, and one block in 31 minutes. There is still no timetable for Patterson's return, and he's worth strong consideration for owners looking for a short-term boost. Toney Douglas hit five threes last night and had 17 points with three rebounds and four assists, but most of that production came in a high-scoring game that was all but decided. He needs an injury in front of him before owners should buy a ticket.
Mullens Mania
Stop for a second and check out what J.E. Skeets called "the best piece of NBA art you'll see all night/day/week/forever." It was a gift to friend of the show and one-time Metta World Peace art curator Steve Manale, and not only is it hilariously stoic when you look at it close up it truly is a piece of work. Doc and I were joking last night that we just don't know what to make of Byron Mullens in fantasy or real life, as he fits the description with both an exclamation point and a question mark. After turning in a 26.3 percent shooting mark over his last three contests, while racking up big counting stats against the Lakers on Tuesday, he managed a fairly normal looking 13 points on 5-of-11 shooting with nine rebounds, one assist, and two threes. After all the ups and downs I know I for one am happy to see Mullens much less manic.
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist had his best game of the year with 25 points on 9-of-14 shooting, 12 rebounds, four assists, three steals, and one block. There was a lot of bust talk surrounding him early in the season, which I never really understood as he held his late-round value, and this is the upside that he's capable of playing for a bad team that will be in plenty of garbage-fests like tonight's 17-point loss to the Suns. Kemba Walker joined the party with 27 points on 9-of-14 shooting, four rebounds, six assists, two threes, and a steal, while Gerald Henderson struggled to the tune of four points on 2-of-9 shooting with four rebounds, three assists, and one steal. Maybe that missed layup on Tuesday against the Lakers at the end of the game got into his head. Bismack Biyombo had a stinker with just two points, two rebounds, and one block, but he had been running pretty well by his standards so owners relying on him should give him at least one game's worth of slack and probably more. Ramon Sessions came crashing down to earth with two points and four assists in 18 minutes, which illustrates the problem with owning him in such a crowded guard situation. Off-nights are going to be particularly painful.
From the Ashes
Don't look now but the Suns have won four straight and Marcin Gortat played 40 minutes last night, so maybe he and Alvin Gentry sipped some chamomile tea at some point last week. Gortat's line wasn't a blockbuster, but eight points, nine rebounds, one steal, and three blocks plus the workload are a really good look considering the prior troubles.
Shannon Brown's hot streak continued with 26 points on 10-of-16 shooting, five threes, four rebounds, one steal, and one block, and while he's always worth a look while he's hot the key here is that he and Jared Dudley aren't splitting minutes now that Michael Beasley is parked in the doghouse. I said Dudley was one-game away from being a must-own player while simultaneously calling him a must-own player yesterday, and he cooperated with 20 points on 7-of-12 shooting, four threes, four rebounds, five assists, and three treys. I think he's playing a bit over his head, but he's justifying my faith in him early in the season now that the dummies are off the court.
Luis Scola is worth a look once again after putting up 12 points, five rebounds, and four assists in 36 minutes. He'll have the risk of being pulled for his defense on any given night, but it sure looks like the Suns have found a lineup combination that works with him in it. Goran Dragic has been a consistent third round value for most of the year, but he stepped it up with 21 points on 8-of-13 shooting with four threes and 11 assists in the easy win.
Twelve's a Crowd
One has to wonder if Scott Skiles will grow tired of his two guards dominating touches every single night, especially when they combine for 10-of-40 shooting as Brandon Jennings and Monta Ellis did in the Bucks' loss to the Grizzlies. Jennings salvaged his night with 26 points, seven rebounds, two assists, one steal, and three treys, but Ellis fell flat on his face with four points on 1-of-14 shooting, two rebounds, two assists, two steals, and one block. I'm not concerned with Jennings' top-20 value and I'm only moderately concerned about Ellis' value, as he's likely to get his field goal percentage north of 40 and that'll likely bring his 3-pointers made up to 1.0 per game where it needs to be.
Larry Sanders did what Larry Sanders does with eight points, nine boards, three steals, and two blocks in just 21 minutes, and he's a must-start player as long as Skiles cooperates. The Grizzlies play excellent defense so I'm not going to dig in too heavily on Ersan Ilyasova's five points and four rebounds in 22 minutes, as we've already established that he's an upside guy that has about one week on his timer in my book. Mike Dunleavy wasn't much better with seven points, three rebounds, and three assists in his 26 minutes, and owners of both guys should hope that the Marquis Daniels (22 minutes) and Luc Richard Mbah a Moutes (22 minutes) of the world take a backseat sooner rather than later.
Grizzly Efforts
There were no surprises on the Grizzlies' side last night. Zach Randolph paced the winning effort with 15 points and 17 boards, Rudy Gay posted a typically inefficient 13 points on 6-of-15 shooting with eight rebounds, five assists, and two steals, Mike Conley was quiet with 11 points, six assists, and two steals, Marc Gasol went for 12 and 12 with three blocks, Tony Allen made some noise with eight points, four steals, and a block, and Jerryd Bayless had one of his bench specials with eight points, five rebounds, and five assists. If Allen and Bayless can continue building on those efforts, we'll let you know but they're still waiver wire guys in 12-14 team formats.
The Warriors were supposed to start struggling in the upcoming stretch of 16 games against teams winning at about a 60 percent clip starting with the Lakers on Saturday. Instead, they started early in a close win over the Hornets earlier this week and then last night's embarrassing loss to the Kings. Nobody for the Warriors played well, no matter what the pinball box score said. David Lee (29 points, eight rebounds, five assists, 12-of-17 FGs) might have given up more points than his offensive production entailed, which is impressive considering those gaudy numbers.
Stephen Curry was torched repeatedly by Kings guards, too, but he scored 32 points with seven threes, six rebounds, four assists, one steal, and one block because Aaron Brooks' defense is among the league's worst. Jarrett Jack took advantage of the Kings' non-existent defense, too, scoring 28 points with seven rebounds, three assists, and three treys in a game the Warriors lost 127-131. Carl Landry scored 14 points with five rebounds and one block, and while he will provide defense the Warriors desperately need in the next few weeks – he didn't have any tonight. Owners of the aforementioned big producers should take the big numbers and run, while national writers sucking up to my favorite team should watch some film before declaring this defensively deficient group and coaching question mark a playoff lock.
Kings Court
Getting some quick business out of the way first, Tyreke Evans (knee) did not play and Francisco Garcia left the game mid-way after taking a hard fall trying to block a shot. Evans' return is entirely up to him and I wouldn't expect there to be an overwhelming amount of reporting on it. He'll return when he'll return and my gut says it will be sooner rather than later, but who knows at this point. There have been trade rumors that could conceivably be at play, but it would mark a MAJOR shift in planning by Kings management, who I've heard were interested in re-signing him.
Now, onto the game. I reported yesterday to you guys first and later yesterday to PBT readers that Isaiah Thomas' teammates want him to start, among other issues, and yesterday's offensive blowout against a Warriors team that disgusted its beat writers will buy Keith Smart and Geoff Petrie at least a week to keep plugging away with the Aaron Brooks/John Salmons/Travis Outlaw/Francisco Garcia plan which will be followed up by the Tyreke Evans plan whenever he gets healthy. As for the numbers in this game, they should all be taken with a grain of salt. The Kings had scored 99 points by the end of the third quarter, and hadn't crossed that mark in 17-of-24 games off the top of my head. Aaron Brooks scored 23 points with three treys and five assists, DeMarcus Cousins had 24 points, seven rebounds, five assists, two steals, one block, and a 14-of-18 mark from the foul line, John Salmons scored 17 points with six rebounds, five assists, one steal, and one block, Jason Thompson went for 10 and 15 with three blocks, Marcus Thornton jumped back on the scene as predicted with 19 points and five threes, Thomas had 11 electrifying points with three assists before being inexplicably benched while going heads up with Curry, and Jimmer Fredette scored 15 points with a perfect eight attempts from the foul line to complete the longest run-on sentence of all-time.
Sports Illustrated's Zach Lowe spent the morning bemoaning Brooks' defensive ineptitude, but nobody in Sacramento really understands how bad he played so it's anybody's guess if there will be any hand-wringing over my report. At least for now. Thornton should be owned in all leagues, Thomas is still a unique stash for the iron-stomachs out there, Fredette is worth watching from a far, Thompson should be owned, Salmons is probably worth passing, and so is Brooks. That's your Kings update, from what was a really fun game that set Twitter on fire last night.
Pelicans Get Clipped
The Hornets weren't able to back up their competitive effort against the Warriors with anything resembling NBA basketball last night, as the Clippers made easy work of them at Staples center. Greivis Vasquez hit just 1-of-7 shots for five points but he did have five boards and 10 assists to go with his six turnovers. Austin Rivers crawled back into the hole he has been living in all season with as many points (3) as he had turnovers (3) with nothing else to show in the box score. Any hype there was severely misplaced. Robin Lopez showed up with 22 points, nine rebounds, and two blocks, and should be picked up if you need a big man. Ryan Anderson actually grabbed a rebound last night after getting shut out by the Warriors the night before, but he hit just 2-of-13 shots for seven points to go with those five boards. I worry more about sticky-fingered guys like Rivers and Eric Gordon getting him the ball on his timing plays more than I worry about Anderson. Gordon will join the team this weekend but there is still no timetable for his return, and he should be owned in all formats that don't penalize a lack of heart or knee cartilage. Al-Farouq Aminu was a DNP-CD last night. Ouch. Anthony Davis played 42 minutes on his way to 16 points, five boards, and one block and should be in all lineups.
The Clippers' box score had no surprises, with Chris Paul scoring 10 points with five boards and 12 assists, DeAndre Jordan scoring 12 points with five boards and two blocks, Blake Griffin scoring 18 points, Jamal Crawford putting up 17 points with five assists and three steals, and Matt Barnes continuing to hold value with 11 points, five boards, one steal, one block, and one three. Eric Bledsoe had just four points and four assists, but posted two steals and two blocks to keep up his low-end value off the bench. He will explode if there is a major injury to the backcourt. Chauncey Billups (foot) is still without a timetable to return, which isn't a great sign for a guy in his position.
News and Notes
Kawhi Leonard (quad) was sent to the D-League which is good news because he was waiting on practice to get his sea legs back underneath him. He'll be evaluated today to see if he can play on Friday, and should not be on waivers in the vast majority of normal formats.
Pau Gasol made his first comments about Mike D'Antoni's spread offense, and they weren't over the top or anything but he's definitely not happy. I mentioned that owners would want to chop their steps and take things day-to-day in terms of buying low on Gasol, as a few days ago most of America (including Kobe) was talking about the need to get him involved down low, while D'Antoni pushed back after Tuesday's win by changing his lineup to lock Metta World Peace into significant minutes at power forward.
This sounds like a tug of war in the making and the ultimate judge of who wins might be with the win/loss record. With each loss the walls will close in on D'Antoni, as long as it's not Pau's fault (for real), and with each win he'll get a bit more leash. I get the sense that Jim Buss will do anything to support his coaching hire until things get really bad, and in that case he'll turn around and blame the whole thing on Mike D. It's a fluid situation – make your bets accordingly. For what it's worth I don't think the Lakers can win without slowing down, which would favor Pau, but nobody is accusing Buss of being smart these days.
Steve Nash (leg) went through a 40-minute workout and if he can't go Saturday against the Warriors he'll be targeting Christmas Day against the Knicks.
Thursday Night Lights
OKC @ MIN: It will be fun to watch Ricky Rubio and Co. go heads up with the Thunder in a rematch of last season's monster game. The Wolves' backcourt will be worth watching as well as Kevin Love's minor ailments and shooting percentage.
MIA @ DAL: Derek Fisher (knee) will not play tonight, and as I mentioned yesterday owners shouldn't get too high or low with news about Fisher when assessing Darren Collison. Even if he has a best case scenario and reproduces his quick start, Dirk Nowitzki's (knee) return will come out of his pocket before his teammates. As for Dirk, he went through his first contact practice yesterday, and beat writer Eddie Sefko made a guess of December 28 for his return. Everybody will take a slight hit in value when Dirk returns, but I wouldn't run out to sell O.J. Mayo, who will probably be the last guy to give up touches in the rotation. Elton Brand (groin) rode the bike at practice yesterday, but he and Brandon Wright (ankle) are both game-time calls. Wright's injury isn't thought to be serious, and the beneficiaries will be Jae Crowder and Dahntay Jones if those guys can't go. There are no surprises on the Miami side, though an absence for Mario Chalmers could open things up for the Miami studs a bit more.
DEN @ POR: LaMarcus Aldridge (ankle) will not play tonight, and owners will have to look toward back-to-back games this weekend for relief. J.J. Hickson is a must-start player in 12-team formats with Aldridge out. Wesley Matthews (hip) practiced yesterday but was immediately checked out by doctors, and he'll be dicey for tonight until the next report. Sasha Pavlovic (butt strain) would be nice for the Blazers to have around, but he was "less than 100 percent" in practice yesterday and is going to be a tough guy to spot-start in deeper formats. We'll want to watch and see if Ty Lawson and Andre Iguodala continue to see-saw, as it could impact their season-long outlooks. We'll see if the Manimal pukes on the bench again, but there's not a whole lot of concern there.
I'll be chatting later tonight at 9 PM ET. See all of you guys there!


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As we begin the trek down the back stretch there is a lead pack at six wins (Trumpetbdw, chris, Colts01, brauneyz and Pruitt) closely followed by a smaller pack at five (DaBearsFan, mikesteelnation1 and jfkaspar).
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Last Week
I need image ideas. I'm rather proud of my job masking out a bunch of grass and rebuilding the edges this week (need to learn how to build beveled edges without copying) but am bereft of ideas for week 11 and beyond. None of us want to see my boring collage of 11's. Please send me your awesome 11's (and beyond).
Now on to Week #10 of the FP Upset Special Challenge. Let's get busy.
You can join us every week. You can join mid-season. If you miss a week, so what? Come back next week. We're just glad you're here and you'll always have me to talk to down at the bottom of the standings.
- One pick per week
- Your chosen team must be at least a (+3) underdog (Only games listed in this column are eligible)
- Your chosen team must win the game outright (no 'pushes' or 'covers')
- Season winner is the one with the most upsets correctly chosen between Week #1 through the Conference Championship Games (20 weeks all together)
- There will be a points system to determine a winner in the event of a tie
- Points will be accumulated by adding the game spreads for your correct picks (if you take Carolina (+4.5) and Carolina wins, you will be awarded a win and 4.5 points). Be careful making picks based on the number of points possible. Points only count if you are tied for the total wins lead when the whole contest is finished.
- The No Upsets Option: Predict correctly that 'No Upsets' will occur in any given week and you will be awarded one win and a point total equal to the sum of all the spreads in that week's Upset Special. If you wish to exercise the 'No Upsets' Option, that prediction is due by 5 minutes prior to kickoff of the first game of the week in question. This includes Thursday Night Football and Saturday Playoff games. The 'No Upsets' option is confined to the Upset Possibilities listed in this article.
- Picks are due no later than 5 minutes before the scheduled start of the broadcast time for your game. The FootballPros.com time stamp on your post is gospel.
- Spread lines will be posted Wednesday and will remain static throughout the week. This isn't The Sports Book at Caesar's Palace, after all.
Prizes to be determined but may include a cool icon denoting your status as *ahem* Upset Special Top Dog, a hat or t-shirt or possibly tickets to the Super Bowl (NOT!!)
Week #10 Upset Special Possibilities (odds by OddsShark). Underdogs in bold.
Thursday Night Football
- Colts @ Jaguars (+3)
Sunday Early Games
- Bills (+12) @ Patriots
- Titans (+7) @ Dolphins
- Broncos @ Panthers (+4)
- Chargers (+3) @ Buccaneers
- Giants @ Bengals (+4)
Sunday Late Games
- Jets (+7.5) @ Seahawks
- Rams (+12.5) @ 49ers
Sunday Night Football
- No games qualify
Monday Night Football
- Chiefs (+13) @ Steelers
Before I get to my pick, two lines worth noting:
- Raiders @ Ravens (0)
- Texans @ Bears (0)
The Ravens host the Raiders, who lost at home to the Buccaneers last week and may have lost their top two running backs. Thus far, the Ravens have played well at home and the line opened at Ravens (-6). Did last weeks Steeler performance help move some money? You bet!
The Bears opened at 0 and are stuck there. Their offense has to get out of the rut and contribute early. I wish we had this game in play this week.
Dave's Week #10 Upset Special:
Decisions, decisions...
- @Jaguars (+3) : The Jags are a better at home than they are on the road, does it matter?
- Titans (+7) : This game is all about the Dolphins, I'm not ready to pick against them.
- @Panthers (+4) : Denver is on the road again and the Panthers still hope to make noise. Can the Panthers D confuse Peyton for more than 30 minutes?
- Chargers (+3) : Can they stop the Buccaneers run without opening up to their passing attack?
- @Bengals (+4) : Bengals fans would love 60 minutes of good football some week. Will they get it?
I'm taking the Bengals, in the hope that they play great or the Giants follow the script.

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The titanium market might not be headed for a quick turnaround, but large aerospace buyers are already set up to avoid the shortages and growing lead times that invariably accompany a surge in demand.
At the Aerospace Systems Sector of Los Angeles-based Northrop Grumman Corp., this has meant firming up its supply lines. Don Blue, the company's manager of airborne systems procurement, said that recently negotiated long-term supply agreements enabled the company's El Segundo, Calif., operation to lock in its price and assure "the availability of hardware."
John Miller, raw materials buyer at the Aerospace Systems Sector, said the current downturn left the market "glutted" with popular titanium alloys, which was a "good time" to establish extended supply agreements. The operation has signed five-year agreements with titanium mills before the next up-cycle begins, which Miller thinks might occur toward late 2011 through 2013.
There are currently a number of large aerospace programs on the "back burner" in terms of consumption, he said, pointing to various regional jet aircraft as well as the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF). Although not yet at full output, these programs nevertheless will be moving into early production phases as early as mid-2011, starting to chew up increasing amounts of metal. And there's also the impact of the new Boeing 787 Dreamliner, history's largest per-plane consumer of titanium. The time to team up with long-term supply sources is before all this occurs, he added.
"If people aren't aligning themselves today in this market, they will definitely be impacted by pricing and lead times" as demand starts to move up, possibly as early as mid-2011, Miller said.
The approximately 170,000 pounds of flat-rolled titanium that the Northrop Grumman unit consumes each year, in large part through its subcontractors, is used principally for the 40 percent of F-18 Navy fighter planes that it is building for Boeing Co. This doesn't include additional purchases of forgings, castings or plate. Miller noted that his operation also has signed long-term agreements with aluminum suppliers.
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., the prime contractor on the JSF, also isn't looking for an imminent upturn in the titanium market, but the company is prepared for one.
"Our analysis says it's going to continue to be soft from a historical standpoint through 2010," said Rod Hogan, senior manager of procurement for the Fort Worth, Texas-based division of Lockheed Martin Corp., who thinks the market is likely to turn up in late 2011 and 2012.
Over the years Lockheed Martin has learned "it's very prudent to have a long-term contractto have some kind of relationship with a supplier who's willing to stick by you in good times and bad times," he said, adding that good times for the mills, when prices are rising and lead times are usually extending, "are not necessarily what's good" for an airframe builder. That's when a long-term supply agreement pays off.
The main titanium supplier for the JSF is RTI International Metals Inc., and Hogan noted that Lockheed Martin's long-term agreements with the Pittsburgh-based producer support the plane's production through 2020. RTI has estimated that its involvement in the program during that period will total more than $2 billion in revenue on more than 80 million pounds of titanium.
Is Lockheed Martin concerned it will be caught titanium-short once the market picks up? Not really, Hogan said, noting that both pricing and lead times are established in its long-term agreements, with prices mostly indexed to a formula provided by industry consultant IHS Global Insight Inc. that incorporates "plus or minus" annual limits.
The JSF, which contains between 30,000 and 45,000 pounds of titanium buy weight per aircraft, depending on the version (the carrier version has the most), is currently in low-rate initial production phase, which is something of a misnomer since it involves more than 500 planes. Nearly 3,200 planes are expected to be built, of which more than 700 are for the program's foreign partners.
While there's plenty of domestic titanium capacity for today's market, the industry now appears to be going slower on some previously planned front-end capacity expansion. RTI International which was initially due to bring a $300-million greenfield sponge operation in Hamilton, Miss., on stream by 2010, put the 20-million-pound-per-year project on hold due to the aerospace slowdown and may instead remain reliant on outside sponge sources.
Additionally, Pittsburgh-based Allegheny Technologies Inc. temporarily idled its 20-million-pound-per-year Albany, Ore., sponge plant at the end of July while it also postponed startup of its 24-million-pound-per-year greenfield operation in Rowley, Utah, a delay of about a year from its initial target.
Miller said there's likely to be some "issues to face" in 2013 to 2015, when the marketplace turns tight again. He expects scrap prices to rise but "not as high" as during the market's last peak.
Miller also pointed out that, even without expansion, the titanium industry today is considerably more efficient than it was five or 10 years ago. Frank Haflich
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P-W keeps pace in CMAC race
The Pewamo-Westphalia girls basketball team jumped out to a 21-2 lead Thursday night as they earned a 59-26 win over Saranac.
Marlena Klein led the Pirates with a double-double of 16 points and 11 rebounds. She also nabbed three steals.
Madison Smith finished with 11 points and five rebounds and Brooke Lewis finished with 12 points.
Saranac was led by Kaylee Hardy, who finished with eight points. Sadie Guernsey finished with six points and eight rebounds, while Kendall Seiler earned five steals.
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1. Pioli should had stepped in immediately after Haley let Gaily go. That was the tell-tale sign that Haley was not the future of this team.
2. Pioli dishing out a 2nd round pick plus 60 million for a backup QB also not the brightest decision.
3. Pioli seems to be unable to separate himself from his New England connections rather than come up with his own team philosophy.
I think Clark made the wrong decision in making Pioli a NFL GM. And it shows. Perhaps, Clark might had extended the offer to Belichick, who made all the decisions while Pioli was working with him.
That said, I'll give Pioli another year to right this ship. Firing Haley is a start, but the fact remains that he was the man that hired him in the first place. I'm not too enthused about who he might bring in next.
Maybe I'm being too critical, maybe I'm just tired of sneaking into the playoffs once every 10 years, only to lose once we get there.


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11/16/2012 Closing Price: 43.52
Intermediate Term Trend is bullish.
Current Position: FLAT
Current Downside Target = 44.51
Projected Weekly Range: 1.14
Trading 128,000 Shares
- JJC total trade profits since 07/25/2012 equal $379,840 or 0.76%.
- JJC is an ETN that holds only a single commodity, the Copper High Grade futures contract.
- After a five-week sell-off, JJC finally found moderate support, keeping prices above the previous week's low. Although last week's close was barely below the midrange, it was the first weekly close in six weeks that wasn't in the bottom quartile. JJC saw a significant change in buying-selling pressure last week as bulls finally began to equalize bears. This resulted in the formation of a Volatility Reduced Compression Bar as trading volume was actually above average. A VRCB at the bottom of a sharp correction normally indicates a reversal is coming. In August, a third VRCB formed right before the previous rally began.
United States Oil (USO):
11/16/2012 Closing Price: 31.93
Intermediate Term Trend is bearish.
Current Position: FLAT
Working Order: BUY @ 32.06; STOP @ 30.99
Break-Even Price: 33.13; COVER 20,000 (20%)
Current Upside Target = 35.85 – 37.87*Extended Upside Objective
Projected Weekly Range: 1.25
Trading 100,000 Shares
- USO total trade losses since 07/25/2012 equal $160,590 or 0.32%.
- Initial trade risk is $107,000 or 0.21%.
- USO seeks to replicate the spot price of WTI light, sweet crude oil and primarily holds futures contracts.
- Our working order to BUY 100,000 shares of USO was nearly filled last week, falling 21 cents short of our 32.06 limit price. Although we weren't filled, price action was favorable, closing above the midrange, above the open and above the previous close. Trading volume was average yet still formed a VRCB, indicating a fairly equal amount of buying and selling pressure. The formation of a VRCB, OVB, VRCB is a rare and high quality technical pattern, especially at the bottom of a correction. We have moved our entry price and break-even price down to 32.06 and 33.13, respectively. Our exit price of 30.99 essentially forces an OVB reversal to stop us out, a bar that only forms about 10% of the time.
United States Natural Gas (UNG):
11/16/2012 Closing Price: 22.28
Intermediate Term Trend is bullish.
Current Position: FLAT
Current Downside Target = 18.88
Projected Weekly Range: 1.33
Trading 150,000 Shares
- UNG total trade profits since 07/25/2012 equal $353,450 or 0.71%.
- UNG seeks to replicate the price movement of NYMEX Natural Gas by holding futures contracts.
- Bearish price action failed to follow through as last week soared to a high of 22.52. The previous week's close of 20.63 represents an 8% increase in just one week. Tuesday gap higher opened at 22.02 above Monday's close of 21.01. Price action was decisively bullish and confirmed by the weekly close at 22.28. If this week trades 22.53, the correction will officially end, confirming a higher bottom, and continuing the bullish trend. Be aware though that large daily price gaps are almost always filled in the near future.


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You guys actually like Battlefront??...I don't have it myself, but *everyone* I've talked to about it previously is sorely disappointed.
You guys actually like Battlefront??...I don't have it myself, but *everyone* I've talked to about it previously is sorely disappointed.
I'm way too old for this ****.
Ever shot an ewok in an AT? heheeheheheheh
It makes ya giggle!
It's worth a rental, but I wouldn't buy it. Beat it every possible way in 2 weeks. I was hoping to rent Fable, but they were all gone. Had to settle for ninja gaiden....
I might check it out next week..I'll be home with jacksquat to do for a few days..
games are for losers go smoke some pot or summin... that'll keep ye occupied
That's cause pot smokers have no game.Originally Posted by TransMan
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lol nah im usually pretty good at FPS games and i play a lil EQ and i would pwn u at CS
My computer is working!!!!!! Wooooo Hoooooooo Rah Rah Rah!!! Yippie!!!
Too bad I don't have anything to say LOL
How has everyone been?? I'm gonna read up the last few pages to see if you guys have been good or bad........Christmas is coming and you know what bad kiddies get in their stockings......
Originally posted by Miscue
Romeo... bah! He's a pathetic fool who was lamely obsessed with the impressionable Juliet.
coal is what bad kids get in their stockings
this thread is still alive?
Yes...life support systems kicked in loooong agooooo!Originally Posted by 1stdeadeye
"coal is what bad kids get in their stockings"
Hahahahaha I knew that smarty pants! but you shouldn't be getting coal, weren't you a good boy this year?????
gibby, how nice to see you! Looking good!
Ya thats not what im gettin i was just answering you.....
It's still October so it's not to late to start being good!!!!!
You can be chaotic on Halloween but then put the halo on and be a good boy! LOL
What is everyone gonna be for Halloween? Is anyone dressing up?
Cheech right herrr
I'm gonna be a bum with a hang over. (my b-day is the day before and it's finally on a Saturday).Originally Posted by TooDamnSweet
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You always were a sucker for a good line about your box!Originally Posted by TooDamnSweet
Dirty old men need love too!
You always were a sucker for a good line about your box!
Very True! LOL
I'm gonna be a bum with a hang over. (my b-day is the day before and it's finally on a Saturday).
Oh how kewl! Since it's on a Saturday, do you have any party plans? I don't know if I'm gonna dress up this year. I was a paintball player last year LOL
Cheech right herrr
LOL Fit's you.
Yeah, so thanks for the Birthday Wishes ya jerks!
Oh, my god, I just logged on for the first time in 9 months, and back then it was only for a few minutes. To see this thread, which has been going on for years now, is still going. 6k+ posts?
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If someone takes a paint-gun apart and modifies every scrap of it, does it matter what gun they had in the first place?
No, it does not matter.
Simplicity is proven over technological breakthrough.
Too bad we can't smack sense into everyone. Why, think of how easy learning would be.
Aiming is a good thing.
Scary, eh?
Originally Posted by spazzed
Hey I've been busy! Haven't checked up on the boards!
Atlanta, eh? Ironic because I'm actually looking at schools in that area..I need out of Knoxville, and I figure that's a good place to start. Good luck getting into Emory, that place is a beast
Happy Birthday!!!!!! Even if you had to bring it to our attention because we don't REALLY like you and just pretend to be your friend......LOL Just Kidding!!! Belated or not you know we love you!!!! So, are you legal??? LOLOriginally Posted by spazzed
Originally Posted by ShooterJM
I'd say you've been busy! Just read your thread. Congratulations Shooter!!! Post a picture of the two of you! I'm so happy for you!
Thanks guys, yeah I'm trying to get pictures to put up, but the digital camera is on the blink.
yeah, I've heard that emory is really tough, but I think I have a good shot at it. The admissions chica is flying out to denver on the 28th so that's when my interview is. Hopefully it will go well!
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quote:Originally posted by Beans15I don't think I have every watched a hit like this with a player coming out of the penalty box. Interesting to say the least.And I know I am not the popular opinion on this, but did the hit really have to be that hard??? This could have been a more reasonable hit and still had the same impact. Instead, Toews is out with a concussion. Coaches teach players to hunt for guys with the head down and cream them. To me, this is intent to injury. Again, I know I am not the popular opinion on this matter.
quote:Originally posted by Guest5985Jumping out of the penalty box and blind siding a streaking forward is Rollerball, not hockey. How about, if a guy skates past the door just as your penalty expires, you ram the door open and cut him in half. You were coming out of the box. Rollerball.
quote:Originally posted by Guest2120Beans, I agree with you. No one likes to see injuries, and in an ideal world we wouldn't, but its just not practical to pull up on a check like that. No one here has alleged that Mitchell's hit was dirty, but your here arguing that..it could have been cleaner?I agree, injuries suck. Anyone who's played knows that. But the reality is that pulling up on a check isn't possible either (your own safety, no time to think, ensuring the check actually happens, intimidation). Does this hit strike anyone else as the passer's fault? I watched the game, and I've watched the clip numerous times, and all I can think of is a video game suicide pass.
quote:Originally posted by Guest4803Great clean hit by big Wille, beans why would you possibly let up on a hit like that? if he slows down or lets up toews has a greater chance of bouncing off and staying on his feet avoiding it and possibly making a play down the ice, mitchell did exactly what he should of. You cant compare this to Ray lewis' late helmet on helmet hit on Mr ochocinco, Chad didnt even have the ball it had completley flown over his head, toews was actually carrying the puck up ice, if he didnt have the puck in his posession then i could see your point but he had his head down and can only blame himself for that one.
quote:Originally posted by JOSHUACANADAHow do you make that check and not injure the guy, Toew's didn't even see it coming and he had a head of steam with the puck in play and his head down. It is the same old arguement, pulling up on a check is just as likely to injure the checker as the player being checked. Are you suggesting Mitchell shouldn't check him at all? Are you saying lessor checking or are you suggesting no checking period? I think your ok with checking but are against injuries. I agree but there isn't a perfect formula to eliminate injuries by checking unless you remove checking from the game. I for one do not want the NHL to turn into light checking Allstar like games.
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Classes and Starting Attributes
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Racial Traits
Gift of the Naaru (Instant cast, 3 minute cool down, 40 yard range)
Heal your target for 35 + (15 x Level) over 15 sec. The amount healed is increased based on the caster's Spell Power or Attack Power, whichever is highest.
Heroic Presence (Passive)
Increases chance to hit by 1% for you and all party members within 30 yards.
Gemcutting (Passive)
5 point skill bonus to Jewelcrafting.
Shadow Resistance (Passive)
Reduces chance to be hit by Shadow spells by 2%.
General Assessment
Here I go over each class with an analysis based purely on stats. A lot of people on forums like to ask what race their should pick for a certain class, and the answer they receive is always the same, "go for whichever race appeals to you most visibly". But these people aren't asking which race looks the prettiest, they are asking which one will help them the most with the character. The answer they receive is pretty valid, it really doesn't matter. But, that doesn't mean it can't help as well.
While your race does not make a huge difference in the overall scheme of how powerful your character will be at end game, it can impact how well you do early on. Oftentimes a player will start a character and then decide within the first 10 levels whether or not they like the character. So, it's important to start off with a solid race/class combination if you're not one for sticking it out for a while to really give the character a chance.
If you ignore the long term and start out looking just at the base starting attributes then I find the following.
One of the defining characteristics of the race is Gift of the Naaru, which is an instant cast Heal Over Time (HoT) spell that increases in power as your character does. This is the only racial ability that heals, and it is the only one that can be cast on someone else as well. When I think of the Draenei race, this is always the first ability that comes to mind for me. As far as leveling early on and getting a solid start this is the best of the Draenei racial abilities.
Another racial that you can't go wrong with though is Heroic Presence. This is probably the defining racial for Draenei when it comes to end game. Having a higher chance to hit is great even at level 1, and while the 1% never gets higher this ability becomes stronger as you level.
If you feel like being a Jewelcrafter, then Gemcutting is a nice little boost for you. It's only a +5 bonus as opposed to the larger bonuses that some of the other races receive, and I'm not really sure why that is to be honest, but every little bit helps. For a race that is heavily reliant on gems and crystals for energy and so forth I don't see why their bonus should not be more like that of the Gnomes, or Tauren at the very least.
You do find a few mobs that use shadow magic throughout many zones in the game, so having Shadow Resistance can be helpful to you from time to time. Overall it isn't much better than any of the other racial resistances of the other races, but there are certain zones in the game where shadow damage is fairly common.
Class Analysis
Hunter: With 20 Agility, 21 Int, and 20 Stam the Draenei Hunter is pretty well rounded. You won't be hitting quite as hard as other races will starting out, nor will you have as much mana or health as some of them. But, it's still a solid choice with all of your appropriate stats starting out at, or above, 20. Gift of the Naaru can also be used on your pet in addition to your Mend Pet spell, so you have a good advantage in keeping your pets alive. Heroic Presence of course provides a nice bonus to your chance to hit as well, making the Draenei a solid choice for a Hunter.
Mage: With 24 Intellect, 19 Stamina, and 24 Spirit you have your starting attributes covered pretty well. As a class that is unable to heal itself (at least not without a glyph), the Gift of the Naaru is a great help and since a mage is going to stack Spell Power above all else that heal is going to be quite powerful, especially in lower levels where your health pool is small to begin with. A lot of the Mage's survivability is also reliant on your spells hitting, so the racial bonus from Heroic Presence is great as well.
Paladin: As is usually the case, the Paladin has pretty well rounded stats for all builds with 23 Strength, 21 Stamina, and 21 Intellect. The Ret Paladin takes a bit of a loss with only 17 Agility so you won't crit quite so often as other Paladins will starting off, but you aren't all that far behind the curve really. All of your builds will have good Attack Power and/or Spell Power to boost your Gift of the Naaru even though it's not quite so big a deal to a class that's capable of healing as it is to one that's not. And having your Taunts or Judgements miss is never a good thing so Prot/Ret Paladins will make good use of Heroic Presence.
Priest: With 23 Intellect, 25 Spirit, and 19 Stamina the Draenei present an excellent option for the Priest class. Gift of the Naaru isn't quite so useful to you as it is to other classes that don't have bubbles and heals, but that certainly doesn't mean it's not handy in a pinch. At the very least, it's another healing spell and it comes with no mana cost at all.
Shaman: Similar to the Paladin the Shaman has a nice array of stats for his builds: 20 Strength, 22 Intellect, and 20 Stamina. Also like the Paladin, Enhancement Shamans take a slight hit by having only 17 Agility so they don't crit as often, but with the versatility of the class that can pretty easily be overcome. While Shamans are capable of healing themselves with spells, their mana is better spent elsewhere if they are not healers, so having a free HoT everything three minutes can be a great benefit.
Warrior: The 24 Strength and 22 Stamina help give you a nice start on your two primary stats, though you do once again fall victim to the lower 17 Agility that takes away from your crit as well as your avoidance if you happen to spec into Protection. Another class without healing capabilities means another class benefiting from Gift of the Naaru.
Psynister Preferences
Personally I prefer the Shaman as the class of choice for the Draenei because everything fits together so well for them. But, the race is a great choice for all of their available classes so you really can't go wrong here. I would say Paladin, Priest, Mage, Hunter would follow next in line for my personal taste.


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Currently there aren't a lot of electric propulsion systems, and few could feasibly power a space plane, or anything else that isn't in the vacuum of space(ion drive). My idea was to have an electric jet engine, heated by an induction coil, with a titanium/ceramic rod in the center. The coil super heats the metal, which in turn heats the surrounding air being brought in by the intake. The ceramic is infused in the titanium is so the rod doesn't all melt at once, but gives a specific impulse. Coupled with solar panels, a plane equipped with this could be the ultimate "green machine" This is my first post, please give feedback,
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Hi, welcome!
It sounds nice in theory, but the problem is the power requirements. For example, to get a metric tonne of payload to low Earth orbit, you need a delta-v of about 8km/s. That corresponds to a kinetic energy of 1/2 * 1000kg * 8000m/s * 8000m/s = 3.2*10^10 J. Your typical rocket takes about 10 minutes to get into LEO, so you'd need a power output of at least (due to losses, no engine is perfectly efficient) 3.2*10^10 / 600 = 5.3*10^8 W = 530MW.
That's about the power output of the under-construction Desert Sunlight Solar Farm, which weighs considerably more than 1000kg. By comparison, the ISS' big solar wings produce a combined total of about 250kW, which is a factor 2000 too little (and they weigh more than 1000kg together as well, not to mention the aerodynamic drag they'd incur.)
So, in short, you're never going to be able to produce nearly enough electrical power to power your engine. Likewise, storing 32GJ of energy in batteries is going to require a much too heavy bank of them. The idea is nice, but unfortunately, the laws of physics prohibit it .
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Yup. The closest we have gotten has been some of the radiothermal (nuclear) jet concepts, where the energy to heat and expand the intake gas came from fission decay.
That obviously isn't... practical these days.
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If the guys at MIT have got their sums right the EHD toy might eventually become a serious player but as i tend to assume that Lourens has his sums right it might be only when we have viable a broadcast energy system or a huge acreage of spray on efficient solar cells considering the size needed to make it efficient.
Mind you i think it would be quite nice to have huge airships moved by solar powered EHD ion drives which might be one way to make the tech viable. I wonder if this is what JP Aerospace plans to do for propulsion when they get their high altitude airships sorted and in production. I had considered using an inflatable silver mylar Rogallo wing reflecting onto a very thin film or even paint on solar cell with the satellite and ion drive as its counterweight as the final stage of our N-Prize teams entry but as we are still working on the first stage and unlikely to be ready before the competition ends. I thought i would stick this bit out in the public domain as i think as IIRC all the individual bits of this are out of patent and unlikely to be patentable as a whole and it would be nice to see it fly even if i don't profit from it.
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I've seen suggestions to use a Solar Thermal powered airship to reach orbit. Perhaps with an afterburner system, trading Isp for thrust, it could work. Or maybe using solar panels and an electrically-enhanced chemical engine.
I doubt you could make it all the way to orbit with it, but if you can get to 4km/s, you can stage there and use a disposable upper stage to put perhaps 200kg in LEO. Not much, but you could get a probe into that, as well as a tank of supplies. If you can make the first stage reusable, to the point where you're essentially refuelling and doing it again, then you've only got the cost of the upper stage, which doesn't have to be much more than a solid rocket stage. Let the payload circularise it's own orbit.
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Why not beam power? from earth and from space
high power laser = low scattering due to thin atmosphere + sunlight(same panel)
Earth Based
Many low energy beams all targeting the ship with a spectrum that is not absorbed by water, or atmosphere - like Laser/H.E.R.F
Let not the bindings of society hold you back from improving it.... the masses follow where the bold explore.
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Well yes, that's another possibility. A while back I thought about the idea of using nearspace stations to beam power to launch vehicles - at 40km altitude the horizon is over 700km away, so with a few stations spaced out above the Atlantic you should be able to manage it. If you were good on the targeting, you could possibly do it with just one...
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We don't have any induction coils capable of that kind of output that would last that long. You're basically talking about a Resistor with Heat as a by product. So, it loses a lot of energy turning current into heat inefficiently, then transfering that from the element to the air (Or other reaction mass.)
I was thinking more like a Plasma Torch as a reacive nozzle. My fuel is ANAS, Ammonium Nitrate in Aqueous Solution, or basically dissolved chemical fertilizer. In a dense enough saturation, it's vaporized, and the chemicals react to sustain it, so you don't have to carry the reaction mass, and energy seperately.
That's the other problem with an all electric designs, we don't have the storage media to make a car capable of competing with Gasoline in performance AND range. Now, compound that discrepancy to the point of accellerating a skyscraper to 5 miles per second within 100 miles straight up against gravity, and air resistance. I think we're going to be stuck with Chemical Propellant for generations without a breakthrough. That's going to have to come in the Battery long before we start to design an Engine to work with it.
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No. 10 Huskers Look to Upset Sooners
No. 10 Nebraska v. No. 3 Oklahoma
Sunday, March 3 | 1 p.m. CST
Bob Devaney Sports Center (Track Area)
No. 10 Nebraska v. No. 3 Oklahoma
Sunday, March 3 | 1 p.m. CST
Bob Devaney Sports Center (Track Area)
The No. 10 Nebraska men's gymnastics team returns to Lincoln for their final two home meets of the 2013 season to face the third-ranked Oklahoma Sooners. After a close opening meet against the Sooners, the Huskers hope to be the first to upset the powerhouse since the Stanford Open. NU will compete in the track facilities inside the Bob Devaney Sports Center on March 3. The meet is set to kick off at 1 p.m. CST. Live stats will be available on Huskers.com for those who are unable to attend the meet. Fans who can't make it to the meet can also follow the Huskers on Twitter (@NebraskaMGym) or on Facebook (facebook.com/NebraskaMGym) for live updates from the meet.
The Huskers look to earn their second win of the season Sunday. NU dominated at their home opener against UIC, claiming the top spots both individually and as a team on all six events, as well as in the individual all-around. Since then, Nebraska has failed to overcome its opponent by the end of the meet. The Huskers faced Oklahoma twice during the 2012 regular season, most recently on March 17, 2012, in Norman, Okla.
Scouting the Sooners
A Glance at Oklahoma
Head Coach: Mark Williams
2013 Record: 13-1
2013 High Score: 443.350 (vs. Minnesota, 2/16/13)
No. 3 Oklahoma has remained inside the top thee nationally for the past four weeks. The Sooners saw their first and only loss of the season at the Stanford Open on Jan. 19. The Stanford Cardinals rose above Oklahoma by almost five points during the second week in the 2013 season. Oklahoma responded to the loss by dominating the Metroplex Challenge in Fort Worth, Texas, the following weekend. The Sooners then continued their dominance as they beat Iowa on the road and Minnesota and Air Force at home. Minnesota provided the most competition for Oklahoma, coming within 10 points of the third-ranked team.
Looking Ahead
Nebraska will host their first triangular meet against Big Ten rivals Iowa and Minnesota after facing the Sooners this Sunday. The senior night meet will be held on March 16 at 7 p.m. Due to construction in the arena, the triangular will be held on the track in the Bob Devaney Sports Center. The meet will be broadcast live on the Big Ten Network.
Last Time Out: Huskers Fall to Iowa
Hoping to come out of their two week hiatus with a bang, No. 10 Nebraska battled with the No. 8 Hawkeyes throughout the night. After gaining the lead halfway through the meet, the Huskers fell to Iowa by two points.
After earning his first collegiate individual podium against Minnesota, sophomore Louis Klein continued to prove himself as one of the Huskers' lead athletes on floor. He grabbed the event title, his first ever, helping NU sweep the top three spots. His 15.20 also improved his three score average, bumping him back into the NCAA top 20 on floor. He came back into the rankings by claiming the No. 16 spot.
Teammates Mark Ringle and Grant Perdue tied for second. They both scored a solid 15.05 on the event. Nebraska dominated the Hawkeyes on the event, finishing almost 2 points higher than them on floor.
NU aslo claimed the top team score on parallel bars. Coming into the meet, Iowa ranked five positions higher nationally on the apparatus, boasting a team average of 71.767. Nebraska excelled on the event in Carver Hawkeye Arena, though, beating Iowa by 1.2 points.
Freshman Sam Chamberlain led the team on the event, posting his highest score on the event (14.85). He was followed by Ringle, junior Eric Schaaf and all-arounder CJ Schaaf.
Nebraska took home top three individual finishes on all of the events except rings, where they struggled to gain momentum. Schryver took home the only other individual event title, claiming the top spot on horse with his 14.60 routine.
Despite falling to Iowa, the Huskers posted their highest team score of the season. NU' 425.400 surpassed their score of 423.300, which they earned at their home opener against UIC on Jan. 27. Nebraska's highest scoring rotation of the night was on floor (73.450), while their lowest scoring was on pommel horse (67.300).
Nebraska Maintains Top-Ten Status
The Huskers remained in tenth after their first week back in competition after their two-week hiatus. California surpassed Nebraska the week before for the No. 9 position and held onto it after earning a 424.550 against Stanford.
Louis Klein, Grant Perdue and Mark Ringle's demanding floor routines helped NU add one point to the team average on the event, anchoring them in the ninth spot on floor for another week. The team now holds a three-meet average of 72.567 on floor.
Nebraska moved up to eighth on parallel bars after Sam Chamberlain posted his career high on the event. The Huskers now average a 70.600 on the aparatus. They rank above No. 4 Ohio State and No. 9 California.
Junior Wyatt Aycock disappeared from the individual rankings completely after earning an uncharacteristic 13.85 on pommel horse. Teammate CJ Schaaf remained in the No. 11 spot nationally in the all-around after earning a personal best score of 83.600.
Perdue remained a nationally-ranked athlete on both floor and vault, remaining in the same tied position he was the previous week. The 2012 All-American performed a solid routine in Iowa City until he fell on his dismount, costing him valuable points.
Klein returned to the national top-20 rankings on floor. He grabbed the 16th spot on floor with his increased average of 15.00. Klein made the to-20 on the event earlier in the season, but dropped out during the Huskers' short break.
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except for the fact that harry potter books are the Bible is fantasy. The history and prophecies in the Bible Qur'an are proven to be real. and history continued to prove the prophecies to be true.
Religions need books because they don't have gods.
except for the fact that harry potter books are fantasy. The history and prophecies in the Bible are proven to be real. and history continued to prove the prophecies to be true.
It was written about 1451 B.C.
(1) the city of jericho will be rebuilt: 1 in 2. (2) One leader, who will be a man, will rebuild the city: 1 in 10. (3) the leader's oldest son will die at the start: 1 in 100. and (4) the leader's youngest son will die at the finish: 1 in 100. Therefore the total probability for this prophecy is 1 in 200,000.
These values were carefully calculated and justified by a respected group of historians
Tyre 7.5 x 10^7 (Ezekiel 26:3-16)
Historians credited the destruction of fortifications in Southern Canaan from circa 1550 BC to the Egyptians. This was when the last city walls of Jericho were destroyed.
The ancient Egyptian account gives the date of the battle as the 21st day of the first month of the third season, of Year 23 of the reign of Thutmose III. It has been claimed that this was April 16, 1457 BC according to the Middle Chronology, although other publications place the battle in 1482 BC or 1479 BC. The Battle of Megiddo was an Egyptian victory and resulted in a rout of the Canaanite forces, which fled to safety in the city of Megiddo. Their action resulted in the subsequent lengthy Siege of Megiddo. ... The city was besieged for seven months and the King of Kadesh escaped. Tuthmoses set up siege-works and encircled the town, eventually forcing its occupants to surrender. At Karnak it is recorded that the victorious army took home 340 prisoners, 2,041 mares, 191 foals, 6 stallions, 924 chariots, 200 suits of armor, 502 bows, 1,929 cattle, 22,500 sheep, and the royal armor, chariot and tent-poles of the King of Megiddo. The city and citizens were spared.
i present the facts and you bash. no offense, but i was told that i would be respected if i did that.
"On that day a fountain will be opened to the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and impurity. "On that day, I will banish the names of the idols from the land, and they will be remembered no more," declares the LORD Almighty. "I will remove both the prophets and the spirit of impurity from the land. And if anyone still prophesies, their father and mother, to whom they were born, will say to them, 'You must die, because you have told lies in the LORD's name.' Then their own parents will stab the one who prophesies."On that day every prophet will be ashamed of their prophetic vision. They will not put on a prophet's garment of hair in order to deceive. Each will say, 'I am not a prophet. I am a farmer; the land has been my livelihood since my youth. If someone asks, 'What are these wounds on your body?' they will answer, 'The wounds I was given at the house of my friends.'
"And when the mountains are made to move." (81:4)
When the sun is covered, And when the stars darken,And when the mountains are made to pass away,And when the camels are left untended,
Just saying that something's a fact doesn't make it a fact. You have to prove it.And the point of Lucifer's creative editing was to point out that it's all a matter of perspective. Someone who strongly believes in something will be much more likely reject other conclusions without seriously thinking about them. The fact that you thought he was bashing you proves this.
Now the gates of Jericho were securely barred because of the Israelites. No one went out and no one came in.
Umm, isn't this presuming that there IS such a thing as an intelligent Christian?
My question is, how can people predict things of that magnitude if there is no God? How do the prophets of God prophecy the future in such specific ways and have them fulfilled? These events are proven to be true and fulfilled, just look it up. History proves the Bible. Math shows the probabilities. Now please think carefully about this statement: With respect to evidence, it takes a far greater leap of faith to not believe in God and the Bible than to have faith in God and to believe what the Bible says.
You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.
Okay, well i do have a few questions. All of the prophecies told in the old testament have come true. There is historical proof of it all. but there were the prophecies written before it all happened. For example look at the prophecy found in Joshua 6:26. It was written about 1451 B.C. ......
1: the reason why i will not be posting on this site anymore is because i don't feel as though you are looking for any real answers.......
i know that you want archaeological proof that the bible can be trusted and there are finds in fact that proves that the people and the places did in fact exist in the bible and weren't made up....
PS: if i could talk to each and every one of you personally, i would. i would give up my time in my life to talk to you about this because i believe that your soul is greater than my time.
okay, well i feel as though i can only post one last time, so this will be a good one because i am going to prove to you that the bible is a viable source therefore proving that all that was written (at least in the historical sense) is true. A lot of you say that you want proof that the bible's prophecies are viable outside of the bible, well i would like to first point out a prophecy written so long ago (we all know that the bible wasn't recently written) and it is being fulfilled today. What is happening in Israel today? Jews from every country are returning to their home land. Does prophecy talk about this? Jeremiah 23:3 states "And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries wither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase" Isaiah 43:5 & 6 state" Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; and I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from afar, and my daughters from the ends of the earth";There is no doubt about it. The Jews are returning to their homeland from every corner of the earth. Prophecy is being fulfilled right before our eyes!
Want further proof? In Ezekiel chapter 36, God addresses the Israelites "24For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land." The Jews have the best army in the world today, the smartest scientists, and live in a little strip of land that the whole world disputes because the nations of this world are under Satan's control.
The nations of the world will bring about their own destruction because God said" And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it." Ever since Hitler's slaughter of the Jews, we gave them Jerusalem back for a safe haven for them. There are so many who want Jerusalem, but the nations protect it. I don't see how you can state this any other way besides the bible predicted future events.
Now to all of you who still say the bible cannot be trusted, i would like to ask you if you have ever trusted in an autobiography written about someone who lived many years before us, written about someone you have never personally met or seen in pictures. Autobiographies obviously have some bias because they are written by individuals about themselves. They certainly could misinterpret some of their experiences, but how many readers would toss out an autobiography as not a trustworthy book about the author? So, why toss out portions of scripture that are autobiographical?
Many biographies are written by people who loved the person they are writing about, but we do not question their validity. Yes, we may see some prejudices or favoritism in a biography, but we can overall trust most biographies, because if they were inaccurate there would be an uproar from others. So, why toss out portions of scripture that are biographical? Unless we have proof they are inaccurate, we need to give them the same trust we would a modern day biography.
i know that you want archaeological proof that the bible can be trusted and there are finds in fact that proves that the people and the places did in fact exist in the bible and weren't made up. http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a008.html This is a small article talking about some archaeological finds proving some of the events in the bible true.
don't let the link fool you,
this article is based on real archaeological finds. There are other archaeological finds that talk about Jesus being a real man. I know that you know that these have been found to be true because Jesus is talked about in the Encyclopedia Britannica. http://www.creatingfutures.net/birth.html This is a page that shows some things written out of the bible that refer to the Jesus mentioned in the bible proving that He existed. but what is interesting is that if Jesus was real (shown by other documents other than the bible) and He did in fact say He was the Son of God, why wouldn't He have been written out of the Bible if He were wrong?
The Jews hated Him when they crucified Him.
They had witnessed His miracles, but believed Him to be a heretic, which makes it interesting that the entire New Testament is written basically about Him and His works. There are many witnesses and they wrote their stories explaining what they saw.
Some say that it can't be trusted because of the religious content in the bible, but if the bible can be shown to be true through archaeological findings and personal notes written by other people saying that those things existed,
then why can't we trust it? Historians only discredit biographies and autobiographies when they are proven false by others, but the people and the things in the bible are mentioned in more than just the Bible. so therefore it can't be discredited as at least a historical artifact.
But we must also ultimately ask the question, since Jesus existed. Is He God, or was he a liar, or was He a lunatic?
http://www.creatingfutures.net/jesus.html this page really explains this very well with some quotes by people about how, with all of the witnessing evidence that archaeologists have found written about Jesus, Jesus couldn't have been a liar or a lunatic. I will let you decide for yourself on that, but i would like to talk about 2 things before i go.
1: the reason why i will not be posting on this site anymore is because i don't feel as though you are looking for any real answers, but you are instead just looking to say other's are wrong and that atheism is right.
I'm not saying this by thought, but by how much i have seen of that on this site. Like obviously there are the christians that aren't very christian at all, but i don't think those people should count because they lack wisdom,
but with the overwhelming evidence that i have found on the internet explaining so many of your questions in such logical ways,
i just don't understand how you could even ask them still. i will provide some links to sites that i found to be very good places to find answers to these questions. but another reason why i'm leaving is because i don't feel as though i could be able to present this stuff in the best way because it is on a forum where so many people just post really stupid crap sometimes (some of the "christians" do too).
Like i know that there are those who have a lot of education too and they aren't obnoxious like some, but this isn't the kind of place to seek answers. If you are in a community full of people who will shoot down anything, then how are you going to be able to even consider the things said by christians?
i am sure a lot of you aren't like that and do consider them, but if you truely consider them, then i think that you'd find the answer in God
I have given myself an opportunity to defend and to be honest i feel as though i did a good job, but i just can't do quite the same of a good job as i could in person.
i hope you understand that i'm not giving up on any of you. on the contrary. I have been praying for all of you every night ( i know this means probably nothing to you, but honestly my prayers come from every compasionate part of my heart, and you all mean so much to me.)
I just don't think that i am called to keep presenting to you on a forum, but i will keep learning from here and seeing things, and maybe making a post every month or 2. but i just think that personal relationships are the best way to go about this. For all of you who understand christianity in any sort of way, you know that what i'm saying is something that christians believe in. because i have no religion, i have a relationship with God. and i believe that relationships are the best of saying what needs to be said.
Now the 2nd thing is that i am extremely disappointed that even though the bible has been taken as historical fact, you still say it's not true.
you work on a basis of evidence. but you see that's not how the world works all of the time.
You have no evidence of how the big bang even occured,
yet you have faith that the universe is in fact all around us. We have no evidence disproving the bible as any sort of historical fact, so we should have faith that it is true, much like many other things written from long ago. why is the bible any different? The world is built on faith. it has been from the start. We have been advancing in science a lot, but as we go further, there are still questions that we need faith to believe they are true and that this universe isn't fake.
I do want to talk about a man talked about in the bible. Thomas, one of Jesus' disciples. He said that He would not believe that Jesus had come back from the dead until he had put his fingers through the holes in His hands and felt the hole in His side from when He was stabbed on the cross. But when Jesus came in, He let him do those things so he could believe. now these fundamental words that, in light of all that has been said, Jesus said are "you believe because you have seen, but blessed are those who believe and have not seen." He is talking directly to all of you. He isn't saying that He will rebuke you, but that your beliefs shouldn't be based on complete evidence, but faith. Atheism is in fact a faith. You trust in your evidence, and whatever might prove what you believe, but in fact you are missing so much evidence, so where is your faith?
I will not preach to you because it is against the rules, but i hope you see all that i have said as maybe thought provoking.
i do pray that you will at least go over this with a completely open mind. Go through the sites i will provide at the bottom and try to find the questions that you have asked your whole life in them. If you don't find it, then talk to someone in person about it. a good christian person. someone that you know.
because asking about it on a forum will only give you advice from people you don't even know or trust. so what is the good in that?
I do love you all and i really don't want you thinking that i'm bailing,
because i have given evidence of the bible's validity and Jesus' validity, which is what you've asked for. and please don't respond to this in a quick manor. honestly if you go to your bed or a quiet place and try to pray, even just once, with all of your heart, Just asking God to help you see what He has been trying to show you your entire life (He will answer this prayer), and then answer my post, i will gladly respond to you.
but don't go and do this and expect an instant response, because God will work in His own ways at His own time, but He will answer it. I just want you to come to my side for a bit because i have spent so long on your's,
and i think that it's rather cowardly not to ever give God a chance. Like how bad can eternal life in heaven with a loving God be?
I do not want you, if you know you will, to go into a prayer constantly thinking that He will not answer it or any doubt in your mind. Seriously just have some sense of faith that there must be a god who loves you and knows you more than you do yourself and individually wants a relationship with you. i mean i know you can't pretend to believe, but if you call out to God, He will hear you. He will. I have no doubt in my mind that He will hear all of you and answer you. just don't expect a verbal response. but give that a try after going through these sites and the answers they provide to certain questions. and i will gladly keep in touch with you in any way i can whether that be by email or this site. i must go to bed now though. I will talk to you all later at some point in time hopefully.
Also, we have things Caesar wrote. We have sculptures Caesar posed for. We have tons and tons of documentation about Caesar written while Caesar was alive by his contemporaries. Who ever says we have as much or more documentation about jesus H as we do Caesar has not done 30 seconds worth of research on the matter.
The Jews have the best army in the world today,