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Friday, January 25, 2013
PvEers: Blizzard Wants You to PvP
Lets start at the get go and the evidence that we all have taken advantage of but thought nothing about which proves that it is easier to start the gearing process through PvP.
The crafted 450 gear. It is dirt cheap to make and it is leaps and bounds better than the 429 and 437 quest items you might be sporting when you hit level 90. The 450 crafted gear, based on its dirt cheap cost, is roughly the PvP equivalent of the PvEers quest gear. The only difference is, for a few gold you can gear up 450 in every single armor slot through crafted PvP gear but even if you quest to the absolute last quest you will only get three 450 PvE pieces.
Remember, PvP and PvE gear of the same item level have the same stat allotment now, so the answer to the question of those that do not know is this. No, 450 PvP gear is not worse than 450 PvE gear, they are the exact same, the only difference is PvP gear comes with bonus PvP stats on it for free, with no consideration of item level allotment.
Lets look at part two of the initial gearing up process. Justice and honor gear. Justice and honor are the same thing for their respective parts. Justice is for low level starter gear in PvE and honor is for low level starter gear in PvP. When the expansion came out, justice purchased 450 gear, honor purchased 463 gear. So you could get better gear for PvE through PvP when you started. This was noticed and adjusted, the 450 justice gear was upgraded to 458 while the PvP gear was lowered to that level to put it in line with each other.
There were two problems however that still existed that were completely ignored by blizzard. One, you still needed reputation to buy the justice gear. Two, there were only a few pieces available for justice but you could buy an entire gear set with honor. So if you PvPed you could have all 458 gear but if you PvEed you could only get a few 458 pieces if you had the appropriate reputation. Since then I believe the reputation for justice gear has been removed, but the fact still remains you can get more 458 pieces though PvP than you can through PvE only measures.
So those first baby steps into the game when you first reach 90 are easier if you embrace PvP, even if it is only with the concept of buying PvP 450 craftable gear.
The reason most of us, myself included, didn't notice that it was so much easier to gear through PvP was because it was subtle at the start of the expansion and as soon as we moved along some it was completely forgotten about. As soon as the PvEers started dungeons, that 458 gear meant nothing, and we all started the second we hit 90 so it is quickly forgotten about, we got our 463s and never looked back.
That starting point, while minimally better through the PvP gear seems to have set the tone for the expansion. That tone is that PvP gear could, and most likely will, be used as the catch up gear of choice for the smart PvEer as the expansion goes on if something does not change.
Still as 5.2 comes out, unless something changes on the PTR, that 450 crafted PvP gear still will be the best option to get a super cheap start on your journey to gear up for PvE. It will allow you to perform so much better than just quest gear will and anyone that cares even a tiny bit about how they do will take advantage of the PvP gear, something that there is no PvE equivalent of.
With the coming release of 5.2 when looking at how things currently are it becomes more apparent that PvP will be the way for a new comer to gear up. 5.0 Valor gear will be cheaper, but will still be locked behind a wall that people will feel could be insurmountable in the gearing up process because they are new to 90 and already so far behind. That reputation will look like a huge cockblock and even more so when it seems like it is all grinding reputation to buy you subpar gear compared to the current level of gear in 5.2. The 5.1 valor gear will be behind the same wall, a reputation one, as will 5.2 valor gear and that will be behind a raid reputation to boot.
So they will hit 90 and see that they need to run dungeons until their eyes bleed and hope to get lucky with drops until they are almost in all 463s and can start the LFRs to once again hope and pray they get drops to move up the LFR ladder. They will slowly build up valor and have absolutely nothing to spend it on because all the gear it could buy is locked behind reputations and there is no upgrade NPC any longer making the valor they earn effectively useless.
Or... they can do as blizzard wants and start PvPing for their PvE gear.
In one nice long PvP weekend and you can gear yourself up in all 476 items come 5.2. Unlike running dungeons where it is hope and pray that things drop, you will earn honor and buy the pieces you want, all the pieces you want, as you want them. No luck involved, grind and earn, a beautiful way for gear progression if you ask me.
Lets just look at the gearing up process come 5.2 for the PvEer through PvE and PvP.
1) Hit 90 and hope you have a 435 item level for heroics.
2) Buy a few 450 PvP pieces to get there if you are not. (yes, even in the pure PvE only way you still need PvP items)
3) Run heroics and...
a) Hope to get the dungeon you want, as you can only directly queue once a day.
b) Hope the item you want drops.
c) Hope you win the item you want that drops.
4) Rinse and repeat as needed, for hours or even days on end while working to get to a 460 item level to start the first set of LFRs.
5) Continue to run heroics for missing pieces and the LFRs and...
a) Hope you get lucky with the system giving you something.
b) Hope you get lucky with the coins, if you even have them, when the system does not give you something.
6) Rinse and repeat as needed, for hours, or even weeks as you can only run those LFRs once a week, while working to get to a 470 item level to do the next three LFRs.
7) Continue to run heroics and the 460 LFRs for missing pieces and the 470 LFRs and...
a) Hope you get lucky with the system giving you something.
b) Hope you get lucky with the coins, if you even have them, when the system does not give you something.
8) Try to earn some gold to buy some crafted pieces or BoEs of a higher item level so you can make it to 480 and the new LFRs.
9) Look back, now possibly many weeks later, and finally get to 480 item level to catch up with the current content at its lowest level, the LFR.
10) Look at all that wasted valor that you can spend on nothing unless you were grinding some reputations while doing all this as well.
Note: Remember that you only get loot if you win, which means you could run into wipe fests that leave you frustrated and with nothing to show for it.
1) Pound battlegounds for honor and buy 476 gear with it and be ready for the original 5 LFRs instantly without ever needing to worry about the luck of drops.
2) Buy some conquest gear, you earned while grinding your honor and some craftables or BoEs and reach that 480 item level ready to roll with the current PvE content at its lowest level, the LFR.
Note: Unlike PvE where a crap group means you get nothing, at least you will still get honor even if you lose in PvP so even a horrible effort still helps gear you up, even if a little slower.
Now lets say you are new to 90 once 5.2 hits, which sounds nicer? Gearing up at will through running battlegrounds where you get honor win or lose or praying the loot god loves you and gearing up through heroics, many of them, where you get nothing when you get a bad group?
Bottom line is that blizzard wants people to PvP and they are doing it in a very subtle way, leaving up to us, the players, to notice that gearing up alts, or for new players, for PvE just became about PvPing and is no longer about PvEing.
Sure, you have the choice of still grinding reputations, and they do go by a lot faster now for people with alts and everyone should be at least honored with the klaxxi when they hit 90 if they enter the dread wastes as soon as they hit 89, even a first time player, so there will be at least one valor item they can buy without working on reputation really.
But unless you work reputations, you will have nothing to spend valor on, so earning it becomes useless, a waste, unless you convert it to conquest and buy some conquest gear with it, which will help you catch up in PvE. Amazing how the only quick way to catch up in PvE now is to work reputations or PvP and the PvP option is better. You can only get so much reputation in one day but you can grind from that first ding of 90 to full 476 gear in one day with PvP if you so wish.
So everyone out there that wants to gear up alts but does not want to do the reputation grind, dust off those old PvP skills, because the only easy way to gear up for PvE is through PvP.
I wonder how all these PvPers feel about the fact that PvEers will be PvPing just for the gear to get into PvE content. Will they look at it as free honor, or ruining their experience because blizzard is funneling all these unskilled, unmotivated, and uninterested people into PvP, into their world?
I know that come 5.2 I plan on gearing up all my alts I have not played with much yet, or have not hit 90 with yet, through PvP. Maybe I'll get lucky, one day running PvP to get my item level over 470, run the 5 older LFRs and hopefully get lucky, and then get into the new 480 item level LFR with a price of some crafted gear or some lucky drops and then be all caught up.
All caught up in one weekend, all thanks to PvP. There is no way you can do that with PvE. Yes, no doubt in my mind, blizzard wants you PvPing and they did an excellent job hiding that fact by locking out gear from new players that do not want to grind reputation. It was a subtle way to push them into PvP if they wanted their gear faster. Nice move blizzard, nice move.
Even if you did grind reputation, it still comes down to this, all 476 gear in one day through PvP or one 489/496 piece every two weeks grinding valor and reputation. It could help to boost item level even if you only get one piece every two weeks and the smart player will at least try to add that to the mix, but it is a boost to get to the new content, nothing more. PvP to gear up for PvE is just a better option. Hands down. The gear might be lesser item level wise, but it catches you up a lot quicker.
Shouldn't you need to PvE to get the best catch up gear for PvE quickly? Nope, you should PvP. Blizzard said so.
37 comments:
- SamiginaJanuary 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM
You're aware that in 5.2 the are :ReplyDelete
-lowering ilvl of PvP gear
-Allow reputation gain trough first dungeon and scenario ran each day
-Dramatically increase the drop rate of 5.0 LFR
So while it may still be possible that the 450 ilvl pvp gear would be the better way to start (althought you replace it so quickly I'm not sure it worth investing the gold), reaching the 480 ilvl needed for 5.2 LFR will be I think far quicker through dungeon/LFR (and get you started on legendary quest)Replies
Yes, they are lowering it from 483 to 476, hence the reason I said all 476 gear.Delete
300 extra reputation is not going to help anyone get rep fast if that is all they do. Do you know how long it takes to get to revered if you only get 300 reputation per day? You still need to quest. PvP will still be faster.
Increase a 10% drop rate to 20% still means you will not be gearing up quickly. Not sure of the actual drop rates, but you still need to get into them to take advantage of that drop rate and PvP gear will get you into them faster.
The legendary quest part makes sense, nothing else does. All 476 gear from PvP and a few extra and you are caught up to new content. That is WAY faster then running tons for heroics/LFRs and grinding gear that you can only get at most 1 piece a week of (with the new reduced costs) and letting the RNG decide when you get gear.
- AnonymousJanuary 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM
PVP anon here:Delete
"reaching the 480 ilvl needed for 5.2 LFR will be I think far quicker through dungeon/LFR"
From previous experience: no.
Looking at the current numbers: a thousand times no. Getting honor gear is TOO easy. You WILL get full 476 in a week through BGs. You absolutely WON'T get full 476 in a week through LFR, you'd have to get more than one drop from every single boss (16 pieces, do the math). Moreover, chances are, in a single week, you won't even be able to get into 460 LFR in the first place.
With some luck and lots of crafted gear and gold for BoEs, you can get 460 the second you hit 90. But outside of that, I agree. Most people, and definitely new players, will not even get close to 460 and the LFR unless they are really lucky with drops or buy a shit load of gold to buy the items.Delete
- AnonymousJanuary 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM
PVP anon here:ReplyDelete
Yes, you are right, unless Blizzard change something in their plans for 5.2, getting gear for PVE through PVP will be significantly easier than getting it through PVE. The only thing you are wrong is when you say that this is because Blizzard want people to PVP. They don't know what they want. They are repeating the same mistakes they did in previous patches (we had the exact same situation with Cata, for example, it was *MUCH* easier to up your ilvl by grinding honor gear through BGs than by doing heroics and raids, after the first patch). They are basically idiots, or behave like ones.
What PVP players think of PVE players going into BGs for easy gear? Yeah, these PVE'ers are more or less free frags, but since they are free frags on both sides, any fun you could have had from dominating these frags is easily stomped by your base getting capped by a single enemy despite being "guarded" by three or four semi-AFK'ing PVE'ers who get in all kinds of CC and don't care much anyway (not that I blame them, they don't want to be in BGs in the first place, they are just there for free honor). All this flurry of PVE'ers does is makes random BGs dumber.
Mind you, Blizzard shafts PVP'ers just as much as PVE'ers, too. Every single major patch they have several changes made in the name of balancing raid DPS or healing, which manage to fck PVP over like no tomorrow. That's in addition to their usual way of never thinking through what the PVP balance is going to be like with each new tier of PVP gear, etc.
I would very much like them to separate PVE at least from rated PVP by making PVP gear free, but only usable in rated PVP contexts (as in, you go into the arena, you wear the PVP set, the arena has ended, you unwear the PVP set and wear your PVE gear). I know quite a number of PVE people want the same. Why can't we have this? Because Blizzard think this splits (and so complicates) the game too much (it is ALREADY SPLIT, de-facto), and they think they can manage it all without splitting (LOL)...Replies
I hope they change something. Like make the old valor gear no longer require reputation. That would be a start.Delete
There is one difference with Cata however, yes the PvP gear was better than PvE gear at launch, but you had a lot more options to gear up quickly for PvE, now there are not options to gear up quickly for PvE. I get what you mean however, PvP gear has always been used as a stepping stone for PvE, but now is HAS to be used. Before it was just an option.
They really need to separate PvE from PvP, I agree and have said it a million times myself. They have the ability to do it, see CC, works for 1 minute on NPCs but 8 seconds on players. How about having all abilities have two working parts.
The one real issue is healing. It is hard to separate that. I hate healers and that is why the BG with the most healers wins. On my healers my win percentage was in the 80% range, on a damage dealer, 20%. All because the other side has healers.
Don't you hate working your ass off beating someone down for 20 or 30 seconds, you get them just within kill shot range, they are going down soon, and a healer comes by and in one heal they are max health again. Mother F'er.
That is why healing in PvP needs to be removed completely. Make it about killing each other and who can do that best. Remove all aspects of healing.
If they want to keep healing in PvP they need to put a blanket 90% healing reduction on all heals while in an arena or battlegound.
Just my opinion of course, and also the only character I would ever PvP on is a healer. With so much power why not.
- AnonymousJanuary 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Less than a month ago you were ranting and raving about how easy it is to get alts raid ready, how you were already set to go into LFR the first or second day that you hit 90. Because all of the 450 quests pieces, the justice gear, and the BoE.ReplyDelete
Now all of the sudden it's so much harder? What happened?
I don't agree though, I think if you had one person that ran BG's straight through, and a person that just did random heroics/LFR straight through they would get geared at about the same time no?
You are talking a fresh alt, with no pvp gear. So you will be of little to no help to your team in BG's.
I think the best idea now if you are in such a rush is to do both. Run your dungeons and if you are missing pieces that just won't drop, or you can't wait one more week to become raid ready (you know you don't have to be raid ready on all your alts the first or second day 5.3 drops)then run some BG/Arenas to fill in off pieces.
Also, in no way shape or form is Blizz forcing you to PvP, or making you choose. You're the one forcing yourself to be raid ready that day or week of 5.3. That a decision that you are making not one that you are getting forced on you. You could do the LFR's/Heroics buy the BoE's, Do the world bosses, and be raid ready in a day to a week.Replies
Two different times, two different topics, don't confuse them please.Delete
As for how it is easy now and hard later, it is that once you hit 460, you are ready to raid now, which is easy if you know what you are doing.
When 5.2 comes out, when you hit 460, you now have to start working your way up. You are NOT ready for raiding. There is an easy way to 460, there is no easy way to 480. But as I mentioned, there is an easy way to 476.
Why do you see it as ranting and raving? I am pointing out that it is easier to gear up for raiding though PvP. That is not a complaint or a rant of any sort as much as a statement of fact to help new players and alts gear up.
Do you think a fresh alt with no PvP gear will actually give a shit about being a benefit to their team? Hell no.
I might care, you might care, many people might care, but the majority of the player base doesn't. They are there for their loots, nothing more and win or lose they get honor.
The basic idea is this...
What is the quickest way to gear up for PvE? Through PvP.
So yes, it is forcing, IF (capped for emphasis) you want to do it the most time and effort efficient way.
Be it bagging out 20 battlegounds in one day or one a day over three weeks. Time and energy spent to return on your time and energy investment, PvP gear is best. So IF you want to gear for PvE effectively, you are forced to do PvP.
OMG Grumpy, I don't know what sets you off, but these last few days, I tell you what- I am grateful. Reading what you are going on about is teaching me things I haven't been paying attention too - both explaining at what is going on and how to possible come back from it. I pvp'ed a time or two and learned it is not my cup of tea (I don't even like dueling).ReplyDelete
What is the significance [ok, I am making up or the spelling of words here, just bear with me] of forcing anyone to pvp? I mean, if I want to pvp, I would be playing one of those FTP mmo's, not wow or I would be on a dang pvp server and not a pve.
Why does Blizzrat and the gnomes behind it, think I want to pvp? Is there a way to really to send these goombah's email that not everyone wants to pvp? Or is this something that they can't believe customers don't want to do?
If there was a good email address that I knew was being looked at by blizzy, I would be sending them email.
BTW, have you seen or found out how much blizzard wants to sell us the farm that we worked so hard on in 5.2? I would like to know. I would bet, it will be too expensive for the average person to buy.
Thanks again Grumpy. I am glad you like to read and be vocal!
-roo "Stoopnocracy is peachy!"Replies
I think their reasoning is that at last report only 7% raided, including LFR and over 30% PvP. So they figure that PvP is a more popular thing and if people like it more maybe making a few more people test the waters might make even more people happy.Delete
While I do not like PvP really myself I see why they work toward that. If you own a business with many people doing many things, where you you put your effort most? Keeping 7% of them happy or keeping 30% of them happy? Amusing that you can not do both all the time of course.
I do like to PvP sometimes, but I do not like feeling as if I have to.
For me they made 2 errors here. 1) I PvP when I am done doing all my PvE stuff. I play A LOT and I am not even close to finished with my PvE stuff, I could imagine 90% or more of the population is in the same boat. I like having content but this is a little much. I can't PvP when I have other things to do. 2) PvP is such a rude atmosphere, and they do nothing to stop these people from insulting everyone that does not do things their way. It is bad in random PvE content, very bad, but it is 100 times worse in PvP. Why would anyone want to be part of that environment?
As for the farm, have not heard yet. I too and interested to see what it will be.
I agree entirely. Someone should tell Blizzard that this is the consequence of slowing down PVE catchup...people will turn to PVP instead. They did it in BC and they will do it again.ReplyDelete
I don't know if it will be easy to do the honor grind, as pvp is quite miserable for myself as I don't like it, but it will certainly be easier than lfr which can only be run once a week. Unless, of course, this droprate buff is something extreme, like guaranteed loot off every boss and a chance at bonus loot.
I'm starting to think they should just ditch itemlevels and make all gear add either pvp power or raid power, and just add more each tier. It would be lame, but when 5.2 hits we'll already have more itemlevel inflation in MoP than we had in Cataclysm.Replies
- AnonymousJanuary 26, 2013 at 2:20 AM
PVP anon here:Delete
Some advice for feeling less miserable while grinding honor:
* Check out Tol Barad / Wintergrasp. If there is a lot of people doing these on your server, do them as well whenever they are up. Be sure to take the weekly quests. With a lot of people fighting each other, it feels much like LFR, where you are just a small part of the action. No responsibility, etc. You all die or wipe the enemy together.
* Do only Alterac Valley / Isle of Conquest, doubly so if they are a PVP holiday. Same reason as above: lots of people, no responsibility. If the PVP holiday is something else, you might try doing that. If you don't like it, simply return to doing 40-man BGs, they give good honor even without holidays. The toughest BG with a holiday is going to be Warsong Gulch, only do it if you are feeling adventurous. :-)
Hope this helps some.
The stat increases are a little insane, make that a lot insane. One one character I went into a dungeon as soon as I hit 90 and did 20K, came out and got a few 450 pieces, which were not a huge upgrade at all, and did another and did 35K. All for such a tiny stat allotment. Things are completely out of control and out of line stat wise in my opinion.Delete
Nice ideas PvP anon, will have to try to remember those.
I really question why we need two sets of gear anyways. Just put pvp power/resilience on all gear or make it baseline for your lvl or ilvl. Everyone uses the same gear. Combine justice/honor and combine valor/conquest. Then just balance it so that it's equally slow/fast to get gear doing PvP or PvE.ReplyDeleteReplies
I agree. Not sure I like the idea of different gear, never have really. It makes no sense but I guess that it because they do not want to mix things so PvPers feel the need they have to PvE and the same the other way around.Delete
They also know that if they made it all the same, they would be giving people a super easy route to gear for PvE. No need to down bosses, go into a few battle grounds and tada, you have all the BiS raid gear if they were all the same gear.
People on the forums would cry like babies because they will not be "special" any more because they got their raid gear in a raid because someone got it from PvPing which is a lot easier to gear up in.
That's the thing. Blizz would have to balance it so that it's not easier to get gear one way or the other.Delete
They'd also have to go with all gear being crafted/purchased so that it was balanced. You don't loot other players to get epics... :)
I'd really like to see a survey when I logged in asking for my opinions about these things in the game. Make it a meaningful survey that takes a few minutes to fill out and give everyone a pet for answering the survey to encourage as many people as possible to answer the questions and then publish the results. Let's see what the community really has to say. Because I really don't think Blizzard knows what their player base would really like. Only so much can be gleaned from the vocal minority on the forums and from in-game statistics. I mean they say that only a small portion of players even have max level characters, let alone do rated pvp or raid...
I think one of the reasons that PvP is so big in the game is that it rewards failure. You can get great gear even if you are bad. Hence the reason 30% PvP and only 7% raid, even at its easiest level. People like that they do not need to be good to get gear.Delete
So with that said, they would need to make it that you need to win to get points to buy gear in PvP and that would DESTROY participation in PvP because most people like the catch up mechanic that even if you are not good you can still gear up, even if it is slower.
you hit the nail on the head - if only 30% pvp and 7% raid, why in sam hill is blizzard with 5.2 going crazy and forcing me (one of the 70%) to PVP? And for raiding, why does it seem that Blizzard is creating new end game for that 7% and not for the other 93%? (If that 7% left the game, it would not be a big lost.). I tell ya why - because that 30% or 7% are the loudest. Here, have some Gouda and wheat thin crackers with it.Delete
Yeah, I woke up on the wrong side of my floor this morning.
-roo "Thats not peachy! Stoopnocracy is peachy!"
@Grumpy It's not just the reward for failure thing. You can do pvp at any level, unlike raiding, it doesn't take long (usually a lot less than a LFR) and you don't have to get involved with other people. It doesn't require much, either, to do a battleground. No item level, no one will laugh at your dps. Sure, there'll be rage for mistakes, but that happens everywhere. I think most raiders also pvp, at least for the achievements. How many pvp-ers do RBGs though? Should be a lot less than raiders.Delete
@Roo What would the game be without raids? Kill the big bad in some dungeons or in some quest, on your own?
I agree James. But I still think you have to enjoy PvP at least to some extent to gear up that way. Sure it can be done much easier than raiding but if you don't like doing it how long do you think people will put up with it before they just say screw it and quit?Delete
I do not know the RBG numbers but I would guess you are raid. RBGs are like raids for PvPers, and I am sure there are a lot less of them.
To Roo's defense a little.
There is a lot to the game you do not need anyone for. It is actually some of the most relaxing stuff to do also. Solo player games have much more success than multi player games and that is for that exact reason. Warcraft would do well to take a page out of that book and keep things more solo based with the option of group content. I think it would be best for them in terms of growth.
I know that if I needed to be grouped 24/7 when I played I would have never made it to level 10. I would have quit. I do not play games to make friends, I play game to play games. Group content is optional.
@James - Why yes!Delete
@Grump - Hot dang, you read me mind....
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- AnonymousJanuary 27, 2013 at 8:27 AM
Where do you get your "7% of people raid including Lfr" pretty sure I've seen dev posts that its much higher. A quick google search had mmo champs showing 30% of people did dragon soul Lfr and that was published just a few months after Lfr was released...ReplyDeleteReplies
I get it from ghostcrawler.Delete
He said toward the end of cata that 7% of max level characters have at least finished the LFR version of dragon soul and called that a great success.
I don't know about you, but when less then 50% of people even have max level characters, and when people like myself had over 10 that did it, and he is only saying 7% of max level characters finished it on its lowest level, that would have to mean less then 3% actually raid.
I just say 7% to be generous. It is not a made up number however, it is the next ghostcrawler said himself.
If you think the number is wrong, complain to him, not me.
Added note. MMO champion can only post data they collect. Sites like wow-progress and guild ox, etc.Delete
Those are completely and totally inaccurate ways to judge. Those sites only have people listed who have searched for their characters or guilds.
I had many level 85s that were no where to be found on those sites.
So if their number was 30% finished it on LFR that means 30% of people that searched for themselves or their guild, not 30% of the level 85s.
At the moment I have 2 level 90s that are not listed on either of those sites, so they would not be included, does what they do count any more or and less because of it? No.
Those stats are inaccurate, the numbers ghostcrawler quoted himself hold a great deal more weight than those. So live by his 7% and not MMOs 30%.
I don't see how that's possible. Maybe 30% of players with a max lvl toon tried LFR in Cata.Delete
I remember seeing a post that a large portion of players don't even have max level characters.
If we look at RealmPop for the US (it's biased to auctioneers/guilds so the it probably overestimates the % of higher lvls a little bit), there are just under 1.7M lvl 90 characters. If there are 2.5M subscribers in the US, that's 68% having a max lvl toon. That's not considering people like Grumpy who have 6 max lvl toons... Let's say the average is only 2 max lvl toons per player, then only 34% of players have max lvl toons and I doubt that every single one of them runs LFR.
PvP can be done at any lvl. Raiding is max lvl only, so just because of that it will be significantly less popular than PvP.
- AnonymousJanuary 28, 2013 at 2:11 AM
I can't seem to find any posts to back up your numbers at all and I've been looking. Please post a link. In fact I remember seeing posts from GC saying that LFR participation was a lot larger then what your claiming here of course I can't find them either which is why I'm super curios to see where your getting your data. I can't find anything backing up your 7% at the end of cata BTW.ReplyDeleteReplies
I can not find it either.Delete
You can feel free to disagree and disbelieve me if you wish. I know that 7% is accurate because I have been talking about it here since the day ghostcrawler posted it. I even had a post saying how I did not believe the 7% number and thought it was a lot less.
The only solid number I could find is him saying that 2.5M characters finished the LFR. Now that might be 25% of the player base IF everyone had one character, but people like me that completed it on 11 characters throws that number off completely. Heck, in my guild alone there are at least 5 players that completed it on at 8 or more characters.
So even if that number is all you have, that means 2.5M characters, NOT subscribers, finished looking for raid.
Being that is the only number I can find you decided what they means. I will think of it as the average player completed DS LFR on 3 characters, which means 8.3%. So even at a complete guess, 7% seems reasonable.
- AnonymousJanuary 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM
I'd suggest if you can't find it then you need to stop using it. Instead say something like only 2.5 million characters have completed it.Delete
Find it or not, it is now old data that is out of date.Delete
We need new data. Until we have new data, that is all I have to roll with sadly.
And saying 2.5 million characters gives the FALSE impression that 25% of the player base has done it.
My 7%, even if I can not find it, is more accurate then letting people believe 25% of the player base did it.
Even if I read or remember wrong, saying I "read 7% somewhere" is a lot better then having to explain that 2.5M characters does not mean 2.5M subscribers every time I posted it for people that can not understand there is a huge difference between characters and subscribers.
What would you believe 2.5M characters means subscriber wise? Not asking for facts, just opinion.
If neither of us can find numbers, that is all we have to go on now as that seems to be all we can agree with being said.
- AnonymousJanuary 28, 2013 at 6:01 PM
If you want a better # you could probably get from mmo champs the amount of level 90 characters since that's a known quantity thanks to the armory. then divided how many characters have completed raid finder by the amount of level 90 characters. This has the quality that dividing characters by characters instead of characters by subscribers ( I know you were dividing characters by characters but you were using a made up # before hand that is of no use to us when trying to think about these things. now you will have an accurate % of all level 90 characters. I know your more interested in subscribers let me posit this when talking about raiding do the subscribers that wont ever max a character really matter? I actuality think a this % of level 90 characters # would be of more use because its going to already remove the people that have no interest in ever getting max level and doing end game things by not precluding these non max level subscribers we would be working with another # that doesn't really mean anything. more to your point if you said X % of level 90 characters have completed raid finder by putting that level 90 part in you make the reader switch to thinking about characters and not subscribers.Delete
That would work in the effort of interest, but it would also be an amazingly high number.Delete
I have 7 max level characters, only 4 have done raid finder, the others might get there some day, but that would mean me alone would unbalance the results.
I would not be surprised if the number of characters that did raid finder at max level is at or close to 50%. But that would not even be remotely close to anything accurate.
Remember, less than half the subscribers even had a max level character at the end of cataclysm. So if less then 50% have a max level character it is impossible for 50% to have finished the raid.
It would still be an interesting number to see. But I want to see subscribers. Characters do not matter, people like me screw up those numbers, sorry. Subscribers do matter when taking about who they should aim content at.
Even if I dislike PvP, subscriber wise, that is where they should focus. I might not like it, but I can understand it.
Just because I like to raid doesn't mean I think everything should be designed for me. A very small percentage raid and a very small percentage of development should be spent on it because of that.
- AnonymousJanuary 29, 2013 at 8:51 PM
if 50% of people aren't even interested in getting to 90 they aren't interested in any of the things happening at 90. PVP, raiding, daily's, farm, that's why its good to not wring your hands over subscribers. if 50% of the population is happy just questing then they should just spend there time making more and more quests (which arguably they probably do IE expansions) My point is since you don't know and can't know one of the numbers you need to find out the % of subscribers that raid unless blizzard gives you that # which they haven't it is of no use to make up a # use real data and real #'s to make up your arguments. Don't fox news us.Delete
Have you completely lost your mind? You are saying I want to fox news you because I want real numbers? Apparently you do not know what that means.Delete
Sit down and good old grumpy will teach you the difference.
Let me explain the difference between me (real data) and you (fox news).
You want to count only people already 90 and on multiple character and raiding. So your numbers will be skewed as it is only asking a tiny portion of the people. Just like fox news will only ask republicans what they think about hot topics and pass it off as this is how all people think.
I want to count everyone, because everyone matters even if they are not 90.
Thinking anyone under 90 is a second class citizen or anyone not raiding does not matter just stinks of fox news mentality. If you aren't with us you are against us.
If you want to think that the only people that matter are the people that are already 90, feel free to.
If you want to believe that because I did something on 4 characters it should count 4 times, feel free too.
You can play any game you want with the numbers, feel free to, but that does not make them right.
What you are right about is saying we will never know certain numbers unless they tell us. But that does not mean we can't speculate on the numbers we do have.
So back the beginning. The last solid number we have is 2.5M characters have finished DS in LFR.
Now speculate. Because that is all we can do.
And I speculate that the 7% number I can swear I read somewhere even that I can not find it, seems about right when looking at the 2.5M number of people that completed it.
At least I can reasonable explain why I believe that number, true or not.
The rep on gear requirement was announced on 1/10 and the 458 one on 2/10.ReplyDelete
My question is - why hurry up with gear? PvP one week and get all geared up in 476 for?
You know why I find this odd? Becuase if we need a new player for our normal / heroic raids, we get them all the crafted gear, run them through LFR once and then gear them up in the actual raid. We're doing that right now actually - we lost our mage so we're making gear for one of the guildies (was lvl 78 yesterday) so she can take the mage spot immediately. From this pov, a new 90 is raid ready in a couple of hours, while not really sure how long it would take if doing it only through pvp.Replies
Why? Because I like to have everyone raid ready, so if a pug pops up, I have characters that can run it. If we need another tank or healer or whatever for a second group, I have one ready. So when I want to play I am ready to play.Delete
I don't want to have to do the build up all over again and waste time just to catch up to being able to play. I see no reason to add a second tier of leveling. Level 1-90 then level in gear? Nope, I just want to be ready to play when I reach the end level.
I do not mind a grind or a week or so, but if you really will still need to work reputation and work random drops, etc, it could take weeks, even a month or more to gear an alt to catch up and that is if you are lucky.
I do not level a character to get to 90 and do nothing because I do not have time to do that all again on an alt.
I love mists, do not get my wrong. I think the expansion was designed for people like me in mind, people with a fair amount of free time to give us things to keep us busy.
I do not mind the weeks of grinding on my main. I do not want to have to do that on every single character I bring up however.
If my character needs a lock I want to be able to level my lock this weekend and be raid ready on tuesday. I do not want it to be a major long process because it is an alt. It should not be one.
- AnonymousAugust 26, 2013 at 8:18 PM
Problem with Blizz's numbers, ie 7% Raid and 30& PvP is well ... what do the rest do?ReplyDelete
Gee, what else IS there to do besides Raid or PvP? Uh ... spam trade chat? Well, people do that anyway, regardless of whether they raid, pvp or whatever.
Which means ... Blizzard is pandering to the vocal minority. All because they have a PLAN.
"If they PvP, they'll want to get into Arenas. If they get into Arenas, they'll want to get into Tournaments. If they want to get into Tournaments, they have to BUY THE TICKETS!"
Yup, its all about GREED. It's not about making a better game or one that lasts longer. It's about GREED.Replies
There are many other things to do in game. I have a few friends that are on nearly daily and do neither.Delete
Admittedly I do not know a great deal of them but then again I do not float in those circles as I raid. That is the same reason I do not know a great deal of serious PvPers, they are not in the same gaming circle as I am.
I guess a lot just hang out with friends, level, do dungeons, maybe role play.

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A new generation of browsers is about to make Web applications better than downloadable desktop software.
(Business 2.0 Magazine) -- The browser is the new OS. Yes, we've heard this before, and if you're quietly groaning right about now, I can understand why.
It's been 10 years since a barefoot Marc Andreessen graced the cover of Time magazine and trumpeted how the browser would make the operating system irrelevant. By uttering the unthinkable, he brought the ire of Bill Gates down on Netscape. Now, Netscape as a Web powerhouse is gone and Andreessen is no longer a magazine cover boy. Yet his vision of computing through a browser window turns out to have been prescient, if premature.
After puttering along for a decade, browser technology is about to undergo a major upgrade, which could once again make the browser the center of the Web action. The biggest change: Soon you'll be able to take your Web applications "to go" and work offline.
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What's making it possible is a new generation of browsers. Early next year Microsoft (Charts), Mozilla, and Apple (Charts) are expected to release enhanced versions of IE, Firefox, and Safari, the first ones specifically tuned for Web applications. (For those who haven't been following along at home, these are programs that run on the Internet rather than your hard drive.)
What this means is that you'll be able to write your documents in Writely (who needs Word?), e-mail them via Gmail (who needs Outlook?), and arrange appointments to jointly edit those documents via Google Calendar (again, who needs Outlook?). And while you're at it, a Google Talk chat window running inside these applications could let you collaborate (who needs AIM?).
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It's the best of all worlds: Your data lives on the Web (in online storage), and it's still accessible offline in your browser.
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Cuartos de baño2
Tamaño80 m²
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Resumen del alojamiento
Bedroom 1 and 2: one king size bed (cm. 180X200, 70X79 Inches) that can be divided into two single beds, one single bed (cm. 80X200, 31X79 Inches), one bunk beds (cm. 80X200, 31X79 Inches) and one wardrobe.
Bedroom 3: bedroom with king size bed (cm. 180X200, 70X79 Inches) that can be divided into two single beds and one wardrobe.
Dining room with fully equipped kitchenette with an adjustable table with chairs for up to 14 persons, queen size sofa bed (cm 140X200, 55X79 Inches), TV with satellite channels and a small balcony.
Two full bathroom (one with bathtub and one with shower).
Some steep steps will bring you to a wonderful roof top terrace with umbrellas, tables, sunbed and chairs, shared with the other guests in the complex, where you can sunbathe, relax after sightseeing or enjoy your outdoor meal.
Flatinrome Trastevere is a complex of 5 different size (from studio to 3 bedrooms and from 2 to 14 people) vacation apartments that can accommodate up to 41 persons in total, 31 in the same building, plus 10 in the bulding just opposite. The nearby public parking makes it a great choice for those arriving by car. The apartments are furnished in the practical but elegant Ikea style. You'll find all the comforts you could wish, including air conditioning and WiFi Wlan Internet connection in every room, washing machine, TV with Satellite channels, telephone with free calls to European and North American land lines.
Check-in: between 4pm and 8pm. Late check-in (after 8pm) is 30 Euros.
Check-out: between 8am and 10am. Early checkout (before 8am) is 30
There is a lugguage room located on the ground floor, that can be used in the following times:
Monday- Saturday: 7:30 - 20:30
Sunday: 10:00 - 20:30
The apartment is located in the historical center, in Trastevere area. Trastevere is one of the best places in the Eternal City to spend your evenings, as it offers a diversity of cafés and restaurants, scattered throughout the picturesque cobble stone streets. The name of district comes from Latin: trans Tiberis, over the river Tiber. The river bends and in between is this nice district. It used to be the working class area: Romans used to cross the river to go and work in the city now it is the district "alla moda".
The apartment is also well connected to the city airports (Fiumicino and Ciampino) and to the main train stations in Rome. With a few steps you can cross the river on "Ponte Fabricio" the oldest remaining bridge of Rome (62 bC !) and get to Jewish Ghetto and Largo Argentina, in the heart of the historical centre of the Eternal City.
Trastevere Complex is in the perfect location for visiting the Eternal City by walk. The historical centre of Rome is in fact quite small: it's a circle of less than 3 kilometres (less than 2 miles) in diameter that includes (from North clockwise): Termini Station, Coliseum, Trastevere and Vatican. All the major attractions are in between. From Flatinrome 8 you can walk to the main sites : Coliseum, Spanish Steps, Trevi Fountain, Navona Square, Pantheon, Campo de' Fiori, etc.
This apartment is not a business accommodation, but a short-term lease. As a result, upon arrival, we will sign a short stay rental agreement and extra services (i.e. cleaning, linen, etc.) will be invoiced separately
Normas del alojamientoTourist tax: EUR 3,5 per person/night
Check-in: between 4pm and 8pm. Late check-in (after 8pm) is 30 Euros.
Check-out: between 8am and 10am. Early checkout (before 8am) is 30 Euros. Security deposit: EUR200. Smoking allowed outside.
This rate includes:
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* In the apartments there are pillows and blankets Bed sheets (for twin beds) Towels, tea towel and bath mat
* Air conditioning (1.6-30.9) and heating (1.11-15.4)
* Free calls to Italian, Western Europe and North America land lines
* Cleaning assurance: if you do not find the apartment as clean as you expected, please let me know within 24 hours of your arrival and I have the apartment cleaned again, free of charge.
* 24 hours assistance for any issue not only pertaining to the apartment
* WiFi Internet connection
* Car transfer to/from airport/stations (15 Euros per person, 60 Euros minimum fee)
* Baby cot (less than 2 yo) : free (please note that I do not provide linen, blankets or pillows for the baby cot)
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Our stay in Rome was very good. The apartment was great and clean. Also the location was very good. We could reach evey major sight in Rome by walking.
Appartement très bien situé avec un accès facile et rapide au transports.
Accueil très bon lors de la réception des clefs . Dommage néanmoins qu il faille payer en supplément les draps et serviettes ( 5€/pers.)
Vi opplevde leiligheten som ok, unntatt kjøkken/oppholdsrommet. Forbedringspotensiale på dette rommet. Var i tillegg skitne kopper, bestikk, etc. Gulvene var ikke vasket.
I tillegg var det kun kjøkkenstoler, samt et kjøkkenbord. Ikke noe oppholdsrom utover kjøkken. Kunne vært ommøblert til en liten sittegruppe med en sofa. Dette gjorde at vi ble sittende på soverommene i sengen, fremfor å være sosiale etter en lang dag med å gå i Roma. Flott tak på kjøkken og gang! Bad og soverom er det ikke noe å utsette på. Kunne oppdatert med gulvbelegg.
Vi varslet pr. melding til hun som overleverte leiligheten til oss. Fikk gratis wifi til utleier. Om det var fordi vi klagde eller ikke vites ikke. Anbefaler ikke leiligheten til andre jeg kjenner. Kommer gjerne tilbake til Roma, og lignende leiligheter men ikke denne. Synes formidlingen fra Wimdu var veldig bra.
We had a great stay in the flat. Everything was perfekt, the rooms were clean, the contact responded immediately. The location in Rome is very good, there are many bars and restaurants within walking distance.
Muchas gracias. Excelente apartamento y excelente ubicación. Creo que vamos a estar en contacto de nuevo ;-)
Grazie mille.
Ottimo appartamento e splendida posizione.
Mi sa che ci faremo vivi ancora ;-)
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Welcome one and all to Sewer Battle 2009. Who can forget those prophetic words Brian Burke once spat out upon having that soon-to-be-overpaid-bum Penner snaked out from under his nose in which he chastised Lowe for running the Oilers into the sewer. Well, welcome to the stink house, Brian! Watching the Oilers and Maple Leafs go at it should be like watching two bums fight over a half decomposed squirrel…. except where the squirrel has more fight left in it than the two bums. But hey, at least the Oilers stand a lot to gain if they finish dead last.
Currently, the Oilers are on a 7 game losing streak. The Leafs are hot and are currently on a 1-game winning streak! Ok, they are 2-4-1 in their last 7. If this one goes to OT and isn't settled, Lowe and Burke should scrap it out, Thunderdome style. Two men enter, one man leave. Either way, I think there will be several happy Oiler fans.
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10 Business Apps to Make You More Productive
While working adults may envision phone applications as a way for kids to kill time and forget about social skills, there are a number of business apps that make your life simpler and more efficient. Whether it's handling business travel, connecting with colleagues, or storing important information, there are plenty of apps that will achieve all of these tasks.
With more than 800,000 iOS apps for the iPhone, 300,000 iOS apps for the iPad, and 500,000 Android apps for smartphones and tablets, there are plenty of options, but which ones are the best to use? Aggregated from various sources, here are 10 useful business apps for review. How many of these do you already have and how many do you want to get?
Google Maps
With Google Maps (iOS and Android), you no longer have to stress over missing a client consultation, field audit, or any other kind of meeting. Through voice navigation and design enhancements, you can keep your eyes on the road or walk a straight path from your hotel and reach your destination with ease. Choose different routes based on the traffic and distance (time) and access Street View, a feature enabling you to look all around the world through 360-degree street-level imagery. Whether you want to make your appointment on time or are just trying to navigate an unknown city, this is a must-have completely free app.
Smartr Contacts
Have you ever had to scrape for someone's phone number and become frustrated when you don't have it with you? In business, timing is everything and convenience sometimes doesn't exist, but with the all-free Smartr Contacts (iOS and Android), both of these areas are covered with this cloud-based address book. A few simple steps enabling the app to connect to Gmail, Outlook, and social networks is all it takes to get started. This app enables you to retrieve contact information in seconds from anyone you've ever come across. Perhaps the best feature is the interface. Here, you can search for anything at your fingertips. The history component keeps track of all your interaction with each person up to one year in the past. This is a free app.
Documents To Go
Being prepared for a big presentation or client meeting can make or break the outcome, but if you're out of the office and didn't bring your laptop, you won't have access to your computer-based software to edit and change your content. In other words, you're sunk. With Documents To Go, you can continuously update and edit between Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Google Docs, and file share from your iPhone or Android to your computer. Although the commands and editing functions won't be as full featured as a PC- or Apple-based version, you can still manage to accomplish basic tasks and stay ahead of the curve. Documents to Go for iOS is $9.99 and Documents to Go Premium for iOS is $16.99; Android cost is $14.99.
Chances are you already have a LinkedIn account, so also having the free mobile app (iOS and Android) provides on-the-go advantages. The mobile version is much more focused on an individual's personal preferences, as well as creating an easier way to cruise through the app. Deemed as your "personal activity stream," LinkedIn tracks your history so that the places you visit are more accessible. Moreover, the app enables you to do a quick, simple search for people, companies, groups, and jobs. It is also designed to give you a stream to more stories because LinkedIn has brought on the popular newsreader Pulse. And, like any app, you can make connections during the workday, in the evening, or while you're traveling.
The idea of keeping track of and organizing your business cards just isn't a high priority for many people. In many cases, those paper cards become hard to find because they may be at the bottom of your briefcase or somewhere on your desk. With ScanBizCards, you can scan the cards onto your iPhone or Android. The scanned information populates your address book or contacts—and can be edited if needed. You now have important information at your fingertips. Also, following up with new contacts is made simpler with a calendar in the app that allows you to sync to your phone, Outlook, and Google Calendars. This is a free app for iOS and Android, with a premium version for iOS at $4.99 and a premium version for Android at $6.99.
Capture your ideas and experiences on Evernote so that your important business meeting notes, reminders, and even websites you like and want to explore at a later time will never be forgotten. This app (iOS and Android) is a member of the Apple "App Hall of Fame." Evernote enables you to take notes, documents, photos, and audio from your phone and cloud-sync to your computer. Organizing your information by "favorites" allows you to access pertinent items more easily. There is a free, basic version, and an enhanced, premium version for $5/month or $45/year.
mSecure Password Manager
In today's world, security is a premium concern and identity theft is a constant fear. Remembering each of your passwords can be tedious and frustrating, but with mSecure Password Manager, your information is protected with 256-bit encryption. In other words, it would take many servers and years of effort to break your passwords. On top of that, the software gives you a self-destruct option, where the database is cleared after 5, 10, or 20 failed attempts to login—you set the number of attempts. The Android and iOS versions cost $9.99.
Google Translate
Specifically geared for the international traveler, Google Translate (iOS and Android) has around 50 different language translations that will help you communicate in the local language. Whether you are meeting with a business contact in France, want to navigate the train in Lucerne, or bring your boss back an authentic cuckoo clock from Germany, this app will help you figure out how to get what you want. This is a free app.
Apps are created for fast thinkers and convenience—and Buffer is no different. This app (iOS and Android) allows users to dictate when, where, and how your social media postings will occur. If posting important information across social media helps you drive business, this app allows you to schedule the time and place of delivery for your postings. A few clicks and you can use Buffer to post to Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter in no time. There is a free version or you can pay $10 per month for the full version.
Back in the day—which was only a few years ago—we had to search through hundreds of emails and documents for important files. With Dropbox (iOS and Android), you can easily store and access content through the cloud. From photos to videos to documents, this app allows users to automatically upload and access information from their phone and tablet, and is especially handy for large files; instead of sending the files by email, you can store the files in Dropbox and provide a link for sharing. Although this is a free app for individuals that offers 2 GB of online storage, there is a scalable version for individuals who need more storage, and a scalable business version intended for multiple users on the same account.
Apps Matter
Of course, there are many more apps than just the 10 listed here. The sky's the limit when it comes to iOS and Android apps, but the trick is to find the ones that are not only easy to use, but also integrate with your daily work and personal life. There's nothing worse than buying a $10 app and having it sit in your phone unused. Ask your peers for recommendations on what they like and do some Internet searches. At the end of the day, it's all about productivity.
Other than the 10 apps listed here, what is your favorite business app and how does it help you? Comment below.


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What constitutes an acceptably secure file cabinet?
Any file cabinet purchased by Emory that includes a lock may be assumed to be secure unless it is obvious that it is defective. A cardboard box, of course, even if securely taped shut, would not be considered secure storage.
What is our responsibility for space and records belonging to or located at Grady/CHOA/VA?
We are responsible for walkthroughs of space that is owned or leased by Emory or under control of Emory personnel (e.g., private offices located in non-leased Grady space). In addition, we are responsible for inventorying paper and electronic media or information, regardless of its owner (Emory or another entity) that is in such spaces or has been entrusted temporarily to Emory personnel. To the extent we are unable to secure Emory information within non-Emory space in which it is located, we must arrange for the information to be transferred elsewhere and secured. With regard to non-Emory information located in non-Emory space and temporarily entrusted to Emory personnel, to the extent Emory personnel are unable to secure that information within that space, the information's owner should be contacted for assistance in arranging secure storage. So, for example, an Emory faculty member with a private office located in Grady space that is not leased by Emory must inventory all media containing sensitive information that he or she has, including all media in that office. To the extent the office contains Emory-owned sensitive information (e.g., student records) that the faculty member is unable to secure without assistance, he or she should work with an Emory administrator to secure such information. If the information includes Grady patient records that the faculty member is unable to secure without assistance, he or or she should contact Grady administration for assistance in securing the records.
If a desktop is password protected, is it considered physically secure?
No, it is easy to remove the hard drive and access the information using another device. Information on such a desktop must be encrypted, appropriately destroyed, or transferred to a secure means of storage.
How much does PGP encryption cost?
$45.50 per computer. But the best practice is to store sensitive electronic information (or really any data that you want backed up) on a secure University or departmental server.
Has PGP encryption been done for all SOM computers?
No, it is an Emory University policy to do this only for laptops and desktops on which it is known that more than 500 records containing identifiable data are to be stored. http://policies.emory.edu/5.12
If no sensitive information is stored on a desktop but the desktop is used to access sensitive information on a secure server, does the desktop need to be physically secured?
No. As long as the sensitive information is not downloaded and stored on the computer's local hard drive. An example is when you perform a "Save As" function and the target is the computer's desktop.
Are University-run servers HIPAA compliant?
The University has a number of HIPAA compliant file server options.
Should steps be taken to enhance building security where there are significant opportunities for improvement?
Yes, definitely. But those steps are likely not relevant to the determination of whether sensitive information in those buildings is considered physically secure for purposes of this Search and Secure initiative because there will almost certainly be some entrants to the building who lack authority to access the sensitive information it contains.
Must we inspect commercially contracted off-site storage facilities such as Iron Mountain to determine whether those records are physically secure?
Generally not. The use of commercial secure storage specifically designed for general security needs will qualify as physically secure. However, for smaller commercial providers other than Iron Mountain, it would be best to confirm the physical controls they provided by reference to the contract or other documentation of what is provided. If sensitive ePHI information is stored there, that vendor should have a Business Associate Agreement (BAA) with Emory. In addition, if offsite non-commercial storage is used within Emory, such as on the Briarcliff campus, those facilities should be evaluated and their physical controls should be confirmed.
Does Emory have responsibility to inventory and secure VA medical records in the control of a VA-employed faculty member?
Yes, but only when and to the extent such records are entrusted to their exclusive control (e.g., taken into their private office at the VA). If the records cannot be secured within the space in which they are located, VA administration should be contacted to assist in identifying a secure disposition.
What should be done if some media containing sensitive information can¿t be physically secured by the applicable deadline?
This should be documented in the inventory with the reason noted as to why compliance is not possible. The attestation includes language excludes from its scope items noted as not secured in the inventory.
Can bulk purchase of cable locks be coordinated at the institutional level to secure a better price?
Yes, this is likely feasible, but keep in mind that storage of information on desktop and laptop hard drives is not best practice and should be avoided whenever possible. The better solution may be to move this information to a secure server or encrypt it.
What level of detail must be provided for purposes of identifying inventoried media?
Generally, items must be identified in general terms only. However, more specific information may be necessary when media is combined in a secure space, in order to ensure that people can identify the media they need and will not take other items that may contain information they are not authorized to access.
Are academic departments responsible for surveying the residents and postdocs assigned to them?
Are academic departments responsible for surveying medical students doing clerkships?
No. Surveying of medical students will be done centrally by OMESA.
Must residents completing their residency in June be surveyed?
No, residents completing their residency in June need not be surveyed.
Must volunteer faculty be included?
If they have the potential to have access to sensitive information in your Department's space or computers, they should be surveyed.
How will the Search and Secure initiative be coordinated between SOM and EHC?
SOM and EHC are each charged with surveying their employees. Some SOM personnel, including clinical faculty who practice in EHC facilities, may be surveyed by EHC as well as the SOM. The scope of the SOM survey, however, excludes sensitive information that belongs to Emory Healthcare, including Emory Healthcare patient information, or that is located in an Emory Healthcare facility. Such information should be reported to Emory Healthcare rather than to the SOM. This distinction is intended to ensure that all information is reported to the appropriate Emory entity.


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If you're looking for deals online, it might pay to make sites think you're a bargain shopper.
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It's just the latest example of the way sites are tailoring prices to appeal to different groups of people online. Last month, the Journal reported on several other companies, including Staples Home Depot and Rosetta Stone, that were consistently adjusting prices and displaying different product offers based on a range of characteristics that could be discovered about the user.
The apparent price differences at Shoplet are interesting because they seem to target bargain hunters specifically, even after a person is no longer looking for a particular deal.
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Patriots Notebook: NH's Chip Kelly is all business as Eagles pay a visitBy ZACK WARD
Special to The Union Leader
August 13. 2014 9:52PM
Eagles vs. PatriotsWhat: Second NFL exhibition game
When: Friday, 7:30 p.m.
Where: Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, Mass.
TV: WMUR Channel 9, WBZ Channel 4
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Born and bred in New Hampshire, Chip Kelly had never been back to New England with his Philadelphia Eagles before this week's visit to Gillette Stadium for joint practice sessions with the Patriots.
But, as the former Manchester High Central and University of New Hampshire player and coach did his best to make clear during Wednesday's media availability, this is a business trip, not homecoming week.
"We're here to kind of go to work," Kelly said when asked if any friends or family from the Granite State had attended the previous day's practice. "And (New Hampshire) is a little bit a ways away. A couple former players of mine at (UNH) I saw yesterday at practice, so that part was good. But it's really a business trip for us, getting ready to prepare against a really good team."
Nevertheless, questions about Kelly's ties to the area were inevitable.
As anyone more than vaguely familiar with Kelly knows, he keeps close ties to his roots, with a famously loyal collection of friends in Manchester and on the Seacoast. He maintained those ties when he left UNH to become offensive coordinator and then head coach at the University of Oregon, and he's maintained them since becoming head coach of the Eagles in February 2013.
Kelly returned to UNH for the annual Blue-White Spring Game in May, and he was back in New Hampshire for Matt and Luke Bonner's Sneakers and Speakers benefit musical festival in July.
"It's where we grow up; it's your family," he said when asked again about his bond with his home state. "I think everybody does that. I don't know many people that move away or something like that. There's always a place in your heart (for) where you grew up. I'm fortunate that I get a chance to go home and spend time. My family still lives up there — had a lot of really, really good friends that I grew up with. And I think that's foundations that we're all built upon."
At Oregon, where his head-coaching stint from 2009 through the 2012 season included a Rose Bowl victory and an FBS Championship defeat, Kelly led one of the most prolific offenses in college football. As an NFL rookie head coach, he led the Eagles to the playoffs after they'd gone 4-12 under Andy Reid the previous season.
Yet he still feels he has plenty to learn from the likes of Bill Belichick — just as he did when he used to drive down from Durham to observe practices when he was UNH's offensive coordinator during Belichick's first seven seasons as Patriots head coach.
"He was very gracious," Kelly said of Belichick and those sessions. "He's always been really gracious to the local college coaches, so they were always open for us to come in and watch."
Missing Mayo
For the second straight day, linebacker and captain Jerod Mayo was absent from joint practice with the Eagles. The Patriots did not disclose why.
Mayo missed the end of last season with a torn pectoral muscle and spent much of the offseason recuperating, but he appeared to be healthy in training camp.
LaFell's sunny disposition
Despite heavy rain, the Patriots and Eagles practiced outdoors, though they moved the session up to 9 a.m. to avoid lightning forecasted for later in the day and wrapped things up a bit early, at 10:50.
New England wide receiver Brandon LaFell said practicing in the wet weather was all part of getting ready for the regular season.
"You're going deal with it sometime this year," LaFell said. "We've got 16 games, everybody playing outdoors, so one of those games it's going to be a wet ball game. So situations like this are going to get us more prepared for when it comes time to play the game."
A former Carolina Panther and LSU Tiger, LaFell has found summer in New England to his liking.
"This is the best weather I've ever had in training camp," he said. "I'm from Houston, so in high school it was hot, LSU even hotter, and Carolina — we went down to South Carolina (for camp) — it was hot. So 70 degrees, 80 degrees — we got that in Carolina, we were happy."
And Wednesday — heavy rains and temperatures in the 60s?
"Best day ever," LaFell said.
Ryan shines
Patriots cornerback Logan Ryan had a notable day in coverage, with a leaping interception of a pass intended for the Eagles' Brad Smith early in practice and a tip that resulted in a Patrick Chung interception later during 11-on-11 drills. Ryan also had a couple other breakups.
A second-year DB out of Rutgers, Ryan has spent time at multiple positions with New England.
"I think I've handled it well," Ryan said. "I think I'm a team player. I think everybody on the team is. We have one goal and that's to win a Super Bowl, so wherever they ask you to play — if you want to win — that's what you've got to do for the team."
Playing different positions has a personal benefit, as well, Ryan said.
"It helps me learn the defense in total by learning multiple positions," he said. "It's something new and fresh, and it's something I can compete and try to get better each and every day."
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In addition to causing a time change, the bad weather led the Patriots to close Wednesday's practice to the public — one day after a record crowd of 25,317 watched Tuesday's session.
At least two fans, however, were given exclusive access: Baseball Hall of Fame manager Tony La Russa and his former Oakland A's ace Dave Stewart, now an agent.
Zack Ward is a freelance reporter.