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An alleged cocaine smuggler, awaiting extradition to Windsor after skipping bail here a decade ago, has pleaded guilty to gun charges in Texas.
Windsor fugitive pleads guilty to gun charges in Texas
An alleged cocaine smuggler, awaiting extradition to Windsor after skipping bail here a decade ago, has pleaded guilty to gun charges in Texas.
The Lubbock Avalanche-Journal reported Friday that Jacobo Peters Fehr, 46, pleaded guilty to being an illegal alien in possession of firearms.
Frank Miller, Fehr's Windsor lawyer, said the guilty plea shouldn't affect the Canadian government's plan to extradite him back here to face the drug charges.
"It wouldn't impact his return to Canada," said Miller. "I suppose if the guy got sentenced to 300 years for murder they might say what's the point, but that's not happening here."
"I don't think the Canadian government is going to make an extradition request unless they really seriously intend to do it. They're not going to do it then say, 'oh well, the guy got 12 months, we're just going to forget it.'"
The Avalance-Journal reported a sentencing date has not been set on the gun charge. The judge ordered the U.S. Probation Office to prepare a pre-sentencing report within 45 days. Fehr faces a maximum sentence of 10 years and a possible fine of up to $250,000, according to the paper.
He has also been indicted on a charge of being a fugitive in possession of firearms.
According to U.S. court documents, Fehr was caught with a Ruger 9mm semi-automatic handgun and a Hopkins and Allen 12-gauge shotgun.
Fehr, a Mexican national who fled Canada after being released on bail pending a drug trial in 2003, was arrested April 22 by Texas police.
He had been a fugitive from Canada since 2003 when the RCMP arrested him at the Ambassador Bridge, along with two of his alleged partners in a scheme to import cocaine from Mexico into Canada.
Fehr was granted bail and disappeared. His two partners have already gone to prison. Rogelio Felix Santana, 36, a Cuban-born Canadian citizen, was sentenced to eight years in prison in 2006.
Also in 2006, 48-year-old Lucas Silvestre Laurent pleaded guilty to trafficking and was sentenced to 2 1/2 years.
Fehr was allegedly caught with Santana removing a one-kilogram brick of cocaine from under a Dodge minivan.
Police said Fehr drove the van over the Ambassador Bridge, with his wife and children on board and the $150,000 worth of coke stashed in the undercarriage.
Fehr was charged with conspiracy to import cocaine, conspiracy to traffic cocaine and possession of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking.
He was released on bail Sept. 29, 2003, according to court documents in Windsor. Among the bail conditions was a requirement that Fehr hand over his passport and other travel documents. He didn't show up for his next court date.
Miller said the Canadian government could extradite him, then send him back to the U.S. once he's finished any potential sentence here. He said Canada could also postpone the extradition process until Fehr's sentence in the U.S. is done.
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Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, December 1, 2011, 8:29 AM
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Daughter alleges misconduct in father's arrest
Original post made on Dec 1, 2011
Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, December 1, 2011, 8:29 AM
Comments (94)
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:41 am
Good. Someone has to challenge the police officers' behavior when it's allegedly unlawful & unnecessarily bullying. If this family's allegations are unfounded, that will come out. This reminds me of the same dept's treatment of the family in EPA when they raided the wrong house. The man of that house, since filing a claim against the Menlo officers, has been harassed by police. Like in so many dept's, Menlo has some bad apples. Perhaps it's time for some composting?
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:55 am
So much to comment on but I'll just address the last couple paragraphs since they pretty much summarize the article of "accusations"
I won't even go into the fact that all these "accusations" are from a 3rd party that was not even present at all during the incident..
"As law enforcement officers, their job in this case was to inform those involved in the incident of the law and of their rights,"
Sorry but the role of law enforcement is to enforce the law. See who "enforcement" is even in their title making that easy to know, or one would think. Further, knowing your rights is your own responsibility. Law enforcement's role in any situation involving your rights is not violating them. Maybe in a perfect world where time stands still, can officers take the time to educate people of Constitution and the Bill of Rights since they can't remember their schooling on the same subjects.
Burnett continued. "These officers did neither, choosing instead to intimidate minors into answering unlawful questions, abuse a disabled woman, and arrest a man without ever telling him why."
By "unlawful questions," Burnett is referring to her assertion that youth have the right to have a parent or guardian present during questioning by police, and that the police in this case did not afford them that right.
Great job here by the Almanac to not make any correction that the accuser is showing her ignorance again. First, when she expects law enforcement to not enforce the laws they are there to uphold but instead "inform" and teach people. Now, second, when she believes minors cannot be talked to by the police. The "questioning" assumed here is an interrogation. I've heard no mention of any of the minors being arrested or even taken into custody during this incident. Minors do have a right to a parent/guardian/counsel when being interrogated. In order for one to be interrogated, one must be in custody of law enforcement.
Finally, the last thing I wish to address is ridiculous claim that Burnett, a Stanford Assistant Professor, didn't know why he was arrested and BOOKED into jail. I would hope that a professor or any person with the ability to read would just look at their booking sheet! All charges would be listed on your booking sheet!
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 1, 2011 at 10:00 am
The actions of the police sound disgraceful, however, the parents of the kids involved should be ashamed of their children and themselves. Those parents somehow neglected to teach their kids to be respectful of other people's property, how to be a guest in another person's home, and how to act responsibly. It sounds to me that this family was nice enough to throw a party for the football team and the team let them down. Shame on them.
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Dec 1, 2011 at 10:29 am
Did the police confiscate any computers, iPads, or smart phones from the home?
a resident of College Terrace
on Dec 1, 2011 at 10:46 am
This story doesn't surprise me at all. Our police force is a bunch of thugs who think they are above the law. They spend their time being heavy handed on small issues, while houses and schools are being looted.
Less time at Starbucks, less time chatting on their cell phones as they drive around and more focus on protecting the community, not punishing them, would be more appropriate.
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Dec 1, 2011 at 10:50 am
Eliza sounds like a kid who got in trouble and now does not want to face the consequences and trying to pass blame on the police.
Grow up.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:01 am
@ "Tired of irresponsible people not accepting responsibility" Please stop living in the past. Have you watched any TV shows filmed since the 60's or read about a certain Supreme Court known as Miranda? Law enforcement's only job is not just enforcing the law BUT also informing any accused of their rights. Have you ever heard "You have the right to remain silent.." or does you knowledge of the law stop with the Bill of Rights? BTW, since the Bill of Rights, slavery has been outlawed, women can vote, etc. probably to your chagrin;)
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 am
Please do not lump all police into a group of thugs. I for one am grateful that the police stopped this party. I live in that neighborhood and do not want drunk drivers on my streets. Unfortunately we never know when the police presence stops burglaries in our neighborhood. Or yours, Fred. Please be grateful to these men and women who work 24/7 to make our communities safer. Try standing in their shoes.
a resident of Community Center
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:08 am
A lot of cops have issues with power and control. They aren't mature enough to realize that they would be a lot better off if they saved their macho behavior for dealing with real criminals. I hope the MP police chief and a review board delve in to this issue and use it as an catalyst for improving Menlo Park police. Unfortunately this type of behavior is rampant in most police depts. We really need better psychological testing so we get police recruits who are less macho and more interested in serving the public.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:10 am
Minorities and the poor get this type of treatment from the police EVERYDAY! It's funny that when it happens to someone with money and power they are the first and loudest to cry foul.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:10 am
"Tired" sounds like he/she is a cop, and a bullying one at that whose power has gone to his/her head.
Police in relatively low crime areas need to spend some time in a jurisdiction with serious crime so that they can gain some perspective.
What next, arresting homeowners whose gardeners make excessive noise with leaf blowers?
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:14 am
Sounds like both sides were at fault in this one.
a resident of Stanford
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:28 am
This "event" took place on Friday, 11/25, it's now Thursday 12/1. Has anyone seen the breathalizer results? Were these tests performed at the time of arrest? Was there sufficiant evidence (beer cans/bottles/hard liquour in plain view)? Had anyone witnessed this so called "drunken football party"? What about the neighbors? And an "innocent bystander " passing by???? REALLY?
Don't even get me started about the disabled woman and the walker!!!!!
a resident of Barron Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:31 am
I have an idea, let's make sure parent's never let their kids have responsible parties where there is a responsible adult present looking out for teens health and making sure they don't drive drunk.
Instead let's make it so the only parties that happen are those where the parents don't know and teens are in danger of binge drinking and drunk driving.
That sounds like a really smart idea to me!
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:38 am
What's wrong with few beers to celebrate a football game? Loosen up folks!
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a resident of Ventura
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:46 am
To Nancy - from this article I surmise that there is very little evidence that much teen age drinking was going on. A neighbor thought there was and the police thought there was but all 44 kids? They didn't brethlize any of them, so was this one, two, 20 40 or all 44?
Consider how would a neighbor know this if they were in the basement? Perhaps a few kids snuck outside to drink a beer - but doesn't this imply that the parents and the other kids would not have approved of drinking inside?
It seems the police let their emotions get carried away and they saw duty to judge and punish. Police are human after all but they are given special privileges and along with that comes the responsibility to not allow their personal feelings to interfere with their duty.
These folks might or might not be bad parents but the police have no business telling them this or inflicting upon them any kind of punishment beyond the minimum necessary to secure the situation. That is the job of the courts / family services after a trial where all the evidence can come out.
This is not the first time our local police have over reacted.
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:51 am
Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.
This case demands full opening RIGHT NOW! None of this 'police refuse to comment since the case is still under investigation' crap. I am a firm supporter of the law, just not necessarily of the enforcers.
The refusal to allow the woman her walker or a jacket, and the threats, are uncalled for. Punishment is the duty of judges, not arresting officers. Since there is no evidence of resisting the arrests or inquiries, the police effort was over the top. Openness now.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:53 am
Yeah, Tired's really reaching w/their comments. The thing is,this publication is *reporting* info on the daughter's allegations, and the fact that she's alleged police misconduct. This publication is *not* investigating her assertions or the happening itself.
I wonder how the police actually got into the house - were they invited in by a homeowner who didn't presume that their rights would allegedly soon be violated?
Who called the police & why? Just the lack of parking there would give away a party. Did the police show up sooner to ask them to turn the music down? I was at plenty of parties as a teen in MP & PA where the cops gave us warnings. What about the cops behaving in a manner between not caring about potential drunk drivers & Third Reich tactics?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:54 am
Can't believe this story and can't believe the reaction.
We don't really have all the facts. Were there really 40+ intoxicated teenagers at the home? Were they given alcohol by the Burnetts? Was the party rowdy? Who called in the report?
When a similar story happened a few years ago in Palo Alto, it was discovered that the teens that arrived at the party intoxicated and had been drinking elsewhere beforehand. It was also discovered later that more teens (from the rival school) that had not been invited arrived and were not allowed into the house by the responsible adults and they were the ones who called the police out of spite. These were the ones who ran away after the police arrived hoping to see the melee.
I don't think we know the whole story, but from what I have read, I have a great deal of sympathy for parents trying to do the right thing and then getting punished when things turn out to be more difficult than they had planned.
Being the parent of a teenager is hard and even when trying to do the right thing it can snowball. Don't criticize if you don't know the facts.
a resident of Community Center
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:59 am
"Since there is no evidence of resisting the arrests or inquiries, the police effort was over the top."
But the pepper spraying by UC Davis police that you support on other thread is okay??
a resident of Professorville
on Dec 1, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Sad story. Sadder still as no-one thinks that it is unbelievable that the MP police would act the way Eliza's letter alleges they did.
If they do this to educated folks, imagine how they behave toward folks without the education to know that this style of arrest is likely illegal (and counterproductive), and may cost the city a fair amount in defense costs.
a resident of Green Acres
on Dec 1, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I would suggest any youth involved in this unfortunate event should contact an attorney through their local bar association. In addition, the following may be of use.
The ACLU of Northern California has a complaint line as well, for anyone who believes his or her civil rights have been violated:
Legal assistance by phone:
415-621-2488 (English)
415-293-6356 (español)
1. You can call their civil liberties hotline. Volunteer counselors staff the ACLU civil liberties desk. They are not lawyers but are trained to pre-screen intakes. They cannot give legal advice to you, nor can they refer you to an individual private attorney. They can, however, bring your request to the attention of an attorney for review, or give you an appropriate referral to another agency.
Callers can reach the civil liberties hotline:
Open Monday through Friday
10 a.m. - 12 p.m. and 1 p.m. - 3 p.m.
English: (415) 621-2488
Español: (415) 293-6356
You can write. The ACLU also accepts written letters as intakes. Please do not send documents, and try to limit letters to one page. If we need more information, we will contact you.
The address is:
ACLU of Northern California
39 Drumm Street
San Francisco, CA 94111
Walk-ins are not seen;
From their website: www.aclunc.org/about/contact_us/index.shtml
see also
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a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Jared - Menlo PD Has gotten in trouble in recent years for heavy-handed tactics w/various folks. Here's a thread that may interest you on a recent case:
Web Link
-Hmmm, E. Palo Alto
a resident of Mountain View
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:07 pm
@Andrea: Read the article carefully. Eliza wasn't at the house at the time, so I doubt she is "a kid who got in trouble and now does not want to face the consequences."
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:20 pm
This is a tough one, and I'm not sure throwing allegations like this around in the news is helpful.
A house full of intoxicated teenagers would not be easy for police to handle - that's for sure. I know when I was that age there were sympathetic parents who believed it was better for their children to do whatever they were going to do at home rather that be outside driving or getting into mischief ... and they were correct about that if not following the law ... however I don't recall an instance where things got out of control or the police were called either.
The police must have some lattitude in how they handle things, and the stress on them must be considered. I have to think that there was possibly video taken from cell phones so there may well be clear evidence of what was said and done.
The thing that concerns me on the part of police is the feeling that they have the right to judge and punish in the field as the comment - "No, let them freeze. We are teaching these kids a lesson." This is not right, and if it was said seriously and done and was the general feeling and behavior of the Menlo Park Police, then it must change and some discipline needs to be handed down. However, what the police did or did not do does not change what the adults and children did or did not do and I am not sure it is of the magnitude that the whole thing should be tossed out. The police are not judges or prisons, they have no right to inflict discomfort on people, that is a form of torture. They also do not know what medical conditions people could have or what effect their "punishment" might have.
I seem to think back to the cases in some police forces where there are video cameras strapped on the officer's radios and I think that may be a good idea. The bad police, if there are any will not long survive a full audit of their performance in video, and there does seem to be a lot of allegations about police misconduct that could easily be cleared up by video.
It's kind of sad to read the comment right before mine asking those who feel their rights were violated to call the ACLU. Is the ACLU so impotent and irrelevent now that they need to make political prisoners out of kids who partied too much?
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:23 pm
What do you know, this is the first time I think I agree with Walter Wallis ... good comment Walter.
>> Punishment is the duty of judges, not arresting officers. Since there is no evidence of resisting the arrests or inquiries, the police effort was over the top. Openness now.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:31 pm
He should not have served alcohol to minors. That's unlawful.
So much easier to point the finger in another direction.
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:36 pm
What about the rights of others in the neigborhood. Sounds like the police responded to a complaint. That they broke up a party with lots of underage children under the influence even if they were not drinking on site. The police took long enough to process the kids that most likely they were safe to get home when released. Sounds like no one got permanent marks on their records (useful since most of these kids want to go to college). Not allowing the hostess of this out of control party access to her walker sounds like some of the police need some additional training. But the final outcome is that a lot of drinking children got home safely.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm
This is a perfect storm of events. I know the Burnetts well. I can not say enough about their kids and their compassion as parents. I also know they are not irresponsible, rude or "disgusting parents". It has also been my experience that the Menlo Park police have been great when I have had adventures with nasty gas station owners on Willow road.
Nevertheless, this could happen to you. Hypothetically, let's just say... Your son asks to have a few friends over, the high school just won the Football Game, it is OK. Just be careful and wise, you say. (What do you tell your children (whom now are suddenly 17) about drinking? How do you want YOUR kids to learn about sex? Hmmm???) OK so some kids are coming over. They now all have smartphones, and when one kid texts a friend as to where they are going, most likely 12 more know instantly. Those 12 know/tell 12 more. Also, just for reference, teenagers now drink beer, check yours for the ID/friend-who-has-one they use to buy beer. If you think they don't have one, then get your head out of the sand. So, The party gets wide notice on FB, chat, and message apps, kids stop to buy get beer and arrive. Someone who lives adjacent gets put out by the noise, appearance, suspicion, not-in-my-back-yard feelings and etc.and quickdials 911 on her/his smartphone. Cops show up to an event well underway and well populated.
On Saturday in Menlo Park what happened it is easy to understand. The police panicked because it is a bigger job than expected. So they get to work doing a really stinky job of enforcement. Panic gives way to stern rote tactics at the expense of professionalism and comportment. Somewhere there was a breakdown in protocol. Otherwise how do you explain the behavior way out of proportion to the scene? Or, amazingly, No Miranda? Things go down hill for all involved and the apparent relish with which city representatives corralled bullied and admittedly punished people will ultimately cost the City of Menlo Park dearly in time, energy, money and credibility. Soon we will shall just out how many of these "punished" kids have litigators as parents. Too bad there will be no funds to update and modernize the socialization training police "people". Everybody loses.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Dec 1, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Seems to me that these parents were not treated fairly by the police. Or is it a big difference between Menlo Park and Palo Alto?!
Witness the party for "insiders" in Palo Alto a few yrs ago - hosted by a Palo Alto teacher and her husband, where there were numerous drunken teens - and they were NOT charged with anything? The party was broken up. That's it. All the cool ppl were there.
I am sick and tired of double standards like this.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 2:13 pm
We have known this family since we were in college together. All of them, parents and children, are kind, generous, thoughtful, reliable, and involved. If you have a problem, they will do what they can to help. If you have something great happen, they will celebrate with you. They have deep ties to this community, and right now there is a very long and very dedicated line of friends ready to support and defend them.
There was no honor in the choices that the officers made, and the actions they took make community policing in Menlo Park very difficult. As a resident of Menlo Park and friend of the Burnetts, I am very disheartened by this incident. There are many fine and dedicated police officers in Menlo Park whose jobs just got harder thanks to the poor judgment of their colleagues.
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Dec 1, 2011 at 2:34 pm
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Menlo Park PD is a disgrace. The officers acted against the law. It's the policemen who need to be arrested and put into jail. Officers who violate the law should not be tolerated and unlawful police actions should not be condoned.
Having seen how Oakland and Menlo Park police officers acted in an UNLAWFUL manner in the recent events, I do not want to live in the bay area anymore. I do not feel safe with the police force around. The police themselves have become a threat to the society.
a resident of College Terrace
on Dec 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I have been living for just 2 years in Menlo Park (Linfield Oaks) and the least I can say is that it is impossible to have any respect for the police. In all my encounters with officers I experienced bulliness, arrogance and a lack of basic common sense (nice way of saying their IQ is definitely on the low side). What makes me angry is the fact that our taxes is going to these overpaid (their salaries is in the 6 digits) incompetent officers.
I hope the city is going to get sued and some officers get fired. They obviously deserve it.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2011 at 5:36 pm
> Police found teens "ages 16-17 years old displaying the
> signs of being under the influence of an alcoholic beverage,"
> Acker said.
What about some facts? Is there a police report? What about open bottles of "hootch"? Beer? Wine? Whiskey? Brandy? Single Malts?
And what happens if these kids got tanked elsewhere, and came over to this guy's house to work off their "Buzz"?
Did the police actually determine the alcohol level of each youth? Any field sobriety tests? Any blood tests? Or can you be arrested in Menlo Park based on an Officer's "belief" that someone's kid is drunk on your property?
The moral of the story is to "never let a teenager in your home".
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Teen Parties - the end of your post made me laugh out loud! Teens indeed bring chaos. On the serious side, you raised some good points. I'm still curious how the police were able to enter the Burnett home.
This happened to me some years ago in Palo Alto:
I was caring for kids while the parents were traveling. I was in college & the kids ranged from grade school to high school. One Friday, I get to the house after my part time job to find a RAGER of a party. I about aged 15 years. Drunk kids, music, food & beer all over the place - just chaos, it was awful. Luckily the house was set back from the street & well insulated so it wasn't too obvious what was going on. I gathered my wits & called some friends to come help. I don't recall all of the details, but several older Stanford friends arrived & helped me w/the kids.
Then, the police show up. All the kids hid & quieted down. An undercover officer, very youthful looking, tried to force his way into the house. I say force because he literally put his foot in the door & stood there arguing w/me. I knew that I could get busted for delinquency to minors when I had done nothing wrong. He was pretending that he was invited to the party. I told him there was no party, just myself & some friends of legal age playing music - which was true. We had a standoff until he finally gave up & left.
We made the kids empty their wallets, called a bunch of cabs to take them home & my friends took a bunch of kids home, too. I made the core group of best friends of the teens stay overnight - & they set everything to right in the house cleaning up.
When the parents came home, I had a chat w/their well-known, super accomplished, monied, down to earth dad before the neighbors could get to him.
I've never forgotten that super aggressive cop w/the attitude that he had a right to enter the house, but I faced him down.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Wow - - Eliza, who was not even at the party is sticking up for her dad, who was in fact at the party and is an assistant professor at Stanford ( at this rate, based on his decision making, will remain an assistant for some time to come). Let's see Eliza�s mom was recovering from back surgery (poor thing � do you hear the violins) but has no problem hosting a party for a bunch of underage kids...and the poor younger brother (also under age) was in tears for his hobbling mother. Hey bro � it�s your friends that caused this problem in the first place. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] When someone calls the police about possible underage drinking, it's because there is underage drinking. The drinking age is 21 .. not 18, not 16 - William (come on Bill) broke the law. He involved his wife (remember her, poor thing) and the younger brother and all his buddies. The fun lasted for a while as the underage kids broke the law with help from Bill; and then the police came - fun over. Remember, the parents condone this - maybe now they are suggesting an Occupy M-A to show support and practice freedom of speech. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Stanford
on Dec 1, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Wow, Becky - bitter much?
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 7:38 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Hey Becky, I'm one of those buddies and you have no right to talk you have not heard the full story. Everything stated by Eliza is correct I was there I think I would know. This was handled ridiculously and unfair there was a party two weeks ago in Atherton, the police came and they just let everyone go and the parents who were there didn't get in ANY trouble.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 7:50 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I probably do the least about of partying out of all the students I know. Just because I go to parties does not mean I drink. No I don't have a fake ID why would I? You probably drank when you were a teenager and you are not perfect you've broken the law as well i'm sure. Yes the parents were home and no I was not crying but you would have been to if that was your mother and no I was not drinking, not everyone there was drunk. Oh and the majority of our parents knew where we were that night.
Why do you people feel the right to assume everything?
a resident of Stanford
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:18 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Regardless of the laws broken by the children at the party and the parents hosting it, law enforcement should not be condoning poor and unfair behavior-- which is exactly what they did by mistreating both the parents and the teens. It is not an officer's job to "teach kids a lesson" by keeping them in the cold to freeze or forcing them to answer questions without their parents present. Despite the consequences of enabling your child to have friends over for a party, officers should exemplify higher authority and justice, not immaturity and misconduct similar to that of the teens. It is expected for citizens to break the law every once in a while-- not that it is okay. However, it is not expected or respectable for a policeman to act just as poorly as the accused.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:26 pm
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a resident of Atherton
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:28 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:31 pm
As a member of the party I can tell you, if you were a neighbor you would hear no music, chaos, or any signs of underage drinking. The police most likely saw a few teens leave the house and walk to the long lines of cars where the police then probably assumed there was a party and they could entertain themselves for the evening. They then walked in without anyones consent and interrogated each teen and surrounded the house with at least 5 officers like Bin Laden was inside.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:31 pm
jimbo. reality check, did you never do anything illegal as a teenager?
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm
how is that entering a very slippery slope?
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:35 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:38 pm
You're right, Friend...and that makes the police force's unlawful actions and treatment of those kids and parents okay!! Not.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:40 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:42 pm
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Hey Jimbo you never answered my question
a resident of another community
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm
It's illegal to drink under 21, and it's illegal to allow underage drinking at your home. There are no special deals just for *you*. It's the same for everyone.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Hey everyone- chill. a little fun at a party with no driving involved never hurt anyone. you guys are taking this way too far... menlo park police and its loser residents at work again. Solution: throw a city wide rager and haze the people supporting the actions of the police.
a resident of Nixon School
on Dec 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm
whether the account is correct and the police acted rightly or not, bottom line: atherton and menlo park police exaggerate situations and often assume much more than they should
a resident of Atherton
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:00 pm
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a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Lets make sure we all know that there must be a lot more to the story than what is said in this article. No one can judge this family or the teens who participated. You really can't fully understand the dynamics of it all. So whats the point in arguing if no one has all of the facts, only the ones who have at least met these people would understand the situation better. Someone earlier said that " It's funny that when it happens to someone with money and power they are the first and loudest to cry foul." well yes the people who are very poor are treated more as minorities unfortunately, and dont feel it to be a wise idea to fight against the police. People with money on the other hand are more of a threat to the police. Right now that is how society works, and its sad! just as sad as the fact that police officers also abuse thier power.. Someone else also said "Shame on them" referring to the parents and teens, thats extremely rude and unnecessary to say. Like I stated before, no one should judge, its foolish and immature. I understand laws were broken, but good people break the law sometimes woopdiedooo there are worse things in the world. At least we know no one was hurt that night and that there were no signs of dangerous actions (driving drunk). I would say that I am at least proud of these teens who can be responsible "partiers." and those who argue against this more: live a little.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:02 pm
jimbo, for such a "wise" man your maturity level is so low. Save the condescending remarks for your next book club meeting gramps.
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Unless you were at the party you can in no way make assumptions as to the police officers behavior nor can you assume the extent at which the teenagers were "breaking the law". With that said, it is far better that this party was held under adult supervision because, as I am sure many of you know through experience, high school parties are often held at households where parents are absent. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:26 pm
As a member of the party, I can say with great confidence that officers overstepped their boundaries as supposed protectors of the public by unlawfully detaining two parents I have great respect for, one of whom was disabled. Eliza's description of the account is very accurate, not to mention the officers refused to let anyone go to the restroom, regardless of how badly they had to go. Jimbo, clearly you are a saint that has never broken any law in all of your life and my be perfect in every way. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Atherton
on Dec 1, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Hey party goers,
If I were you, I'd shut up. Your accusations and opinions are doing nothing but digging a bigger hole for Mr. Burnett to climb out of. You're making everyone who attended that party look like an idiot teens that can't construct a basic argument.
I know you have the best intentions for your friend's father, but your words are doing more to hurt than help. S, you just said that not everyone was drunk, implying that there was underage drinking. Be smart. Stop talking.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 10:23 pm
"Come on guys" I understand your point, but like you said, they are teenagers. Their argument may not be written very professionally thats very true, but I do not think that means they are stupid. None of them are accusing, they are only speaking to defend themselves. I dont see anyone hiding the fact that there was underage drinking, so someone saying that not everyone was drunk is only for more defense; proving that this party was not a crazy event that was too out of control.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:04 pm
I love that there are street corner lawyers in more affluent areas too. All this spouting off about rights, unlawful detentions and what the police should have and shouldn't have done. In my time in the hood, this is what I have learned.
- The police do not have to read you your Miranda Rights when they arrest you like they do on TV. That is television, not real life.
- Minors - Minors have rights like adults, one of them is not to have their parents present when questioned by the police. This would not apply in this situation, since it doesn't sound like any of the kids where arrested.
- If the police are investigating a crime (underage drinking is a crime)and they think you are involved, they can detain you. If you do not cooperate, they can handcuff you.
I wonder if there would be this much public outcry if it had happened in East Menlo?
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Both articles appear to be information deficient. For example, was there evidence of drinking? Were sobriety tests administered to the teenagers? Did the police simply stop because they were on patrol, or were they responding to a complaint or multiple complaints (surely if it was a noisy party many neighbors would have complained.)? If there was a complaint, was it for noise, alcohol consumption, or a large gathering of teenagers? Even a group of five teenagers can be intimidating and cause for consternation, let alone a much larger group. Is it true this party had been planned well in advance (supposedly it was an annual event and non-alcoholic in nature), and neighbors had been informed in advance (something good neighbors do even when having a simple dinner party that will involve parking in front of other homes on the neighborhood street) and were thus prepared for one evening of inconvenience? If the newspaper is accurate and Mr. Burnett is being charged with 44 counts of providing alcohol to minors, where is the evidence? The whole affair seems vastly overblown in the absence of facts.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Amen "tired of the BS" you got it right on.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 2, 2011 at 1:20 am
*Tired of the BS* said it best... have a little knowledge before you spout off stuff you learned on TV.. Good to see somebody on here has some sense.
Also..to the TEENS that were at the party making childish comments on here... come back in 10 years after you've hopefully learned something adulthood... maybe had a child or two...just ask your mommy or daddy..see what they're standpoint on this is...
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 2, 2011 at 2:26 am
JohnJR, I don't really see why you think you can criticize the teenagers since they were the ones at the party and therefore they have a firsthand account of the horrible abuse of power by the police. Also, to all you people who are judging the family, especially the parents, you don't even know them so you have no right to chastise them. I'm sure that the Burnetts are good people who are not perfect but certainly do not deserve the treatment that they received from the police or any of the unnecessarily harsh comments on here from ignorant people. It's the teenagers who actually know the family so they are the ones that you all should be listening to instead of writing off their comments as childish.
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a resident of Monroe Park
on Dec 2, 2011 at 8:13 am
I hope the teenagers - with the full support of their parents - come forward and help find some truth in case. They all showed up for the party and good times at Mr. Burnett's home then caused some sort of disturbance which attracted the attention of the police. Now they should be facing up to the consequences and not letting Mr. Burnett be their fall guy. If there was police misconduct, then their testimony will be crucial to helping Mr. Burnett plea his defense. I would not invite a single one of them to my home. Toxic guests.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Dec 2, 2011 at 8:43 am
It is only fair to publish the names of the officers involved. Let justice take its course instead of letting them hide behind the badge while siphoning tax payers' money.
It is time to "POLICE the Police". Isn't it interesting there are many police officers out there with past records, and they suddenly get closed or they no longer have new records after they joined the brotherhood? It is not that they suddenly all became law-abiding. More likely, they are not reported to maintain the brotherhood.
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 2, 2011 at 8:53 am
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Wondering, the difference between this case and Davis is that in Menlo there was apparently full cooperation even with the unreasonable orders of the police while at Davis there was total non-cooperation. There are obligations on both sides in a law officer confrontation.
I believe the story mentioned that no field sobriety tests were given, which renders the drinking accusation moot; and denial of chairs or walkers and bathrooms was uncalled for since everyone was cooperating.
I want a police response now,not 6 months from now couched in legalese.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 2, 2011 at 9:17 am
All the more reason to institute very thorough psychological examinations of all prospective police officers, done by a completely independent agency. This profession obviously attracts really screwed up people who thrive on using and abusing power. Witness the idiots macing and flash-bombing students and protestors. And of course, the places that need to do this the most are campus police departments, the haven for those who cannot pass the limited screening that municipal police agencies already institute. However, the silver lining is that it does make everyone wonder what happens to those who do not have the resources to challenge these departments. I would submit the corrections system is full of those folks.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Dec 2, 2011 at 9:18 am
I was a student at this party and I can say that I was completely sober. One officer in particular was far to rude for my taste. After insisting each of us call a parent to pick us up, they did in fact ask unlawful questions. When I said I was completely sober, the officer immediately began yelling at me, telling me I was lying (I was not). However no sobriety test was taken to prove me right. When my mother came to pick me up, as requested by the officers, I was told by two that I could go to her. After standing and walking to her I was yelled at for leaving the line and told to sit back down. Once I had permission from the rudest officer to return to my mother, he not only yelled at me, but at my mother also. My mother in no way was taking part in these events, however, the officer was extremely rude to her as if she was hosting it herself.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2011 at 9:28 am
We adults take on enormous risk when we host parties for teens and assume we've removed that risk simply by "taking away their keys".
For the young people: taking away the keys can't prevent the much more common fallout of underage drinking (or misuse of alcohol at any age) - violence, injury, date rape/unintended sexual encounters or potential alcohol poisoning. The notion that we can control the situation and guarantee a safe outcome for all is mistaken.
It's also a risk and false assumption that most parents would be okay with our decision to allow their child to drink at our house. Whoa...
Thank goodness there were no tragedies - but with a group that large and a creek nearby, cars should not have been the only concern.
Law enforcement has the horrible task of witnessing and attending to the aftermath of all of the above and, while not defending the behavior that's being claimed in this case, it makes sense to me that law enforcement would be very serious when they happen upon a large party with underage drinking. They have the responsibility to enforce the law AND keep it a safe situation. It's a pretty sure bet that the scene is going to be intense.
Keeping students together and having "five officers" surrounding the house (as claimed) sounds like safe party dispersal training - to prevent party-goers from scattering and potential tragedies from DUI. (Officers have no way of knowing who has keys).
The story of the Burnett's, while hard to know what is fact or fiction, is a cautionary tale of risk and false notions.
Legal issues, financial hit, media spectacle, potential civil suits, fallout to one's social and professional reputation...even if tragedies were avoided, the other risks are real and way too high.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2011 at 10:07 am
Why would anyone host a party for their High School kids after hearing this story? Too much risk. It's very sad for the kids. We have a lot to learn from our parents who were much more tolerant.
a resident of Mountain View
on Dec 2, 2011 at 12:35 pm
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Who does the MPs from MP think they are, members of the Denver PD?
( Denver is shelling out $MILLIONS in poLICE brutality and unlawful arrest and detainment FOR THIS YEAR ALONE )
Independent Psych tests are necessary, with a no UNION APPEAL clause put in place!
Like LAWYERS, the 99% of the LEOs make the good ones look bad.
The SFBA was a good place to live in before the WOD and SWAT teams moved in....
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 2, 2011 at 1:51 pm
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No response yet? Hiding behind "policy"? When you have a gun you don't have to shout. When you do shout other than to be heard, you are out of line. You claim everybody was drunk and yet no Breathalyzer tests? What a bunch of maroons!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2011 at 2:43 pm
So can cops legally walk into a home without receiving consent from a resident/owner? Was it legal to enter without consent because they *suspected* there was underage drinking in the house?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm
As a parent of teens, I have often had a group of teens here (but nowhere near 44). I am usually here and provide food while they play video games or hang out. They sometimes are noisy, but generally well behaved and respectful.
It seems perhaps that I should not have teens here. It seems that someone might think there was alcohol and call me in. I never brethalyse the kids who come here and I would never let them drink here. But someone might think I was and I might get arrested.
Perhaps my teens shouldn't have any friends here and I shouldn't let them go to friends houses or anywhere else.
At least that is what I am reading from all this.
a resident of South of Midtown
on Dec 3, 2011 at 10:28 pm
This is very unfortunate for all concerned. It's very hard to tell, from the differing accounts, what might have actually happened. I hope the truth comes out and who ever is at fault here is held accountable, whether it is the police, the parents, the partygoers, or a combination. I have to say I recently had an encounter with the MP police in which they were nothing but helpful, reasonable, and did exactly what any citizen would hope. If the police were at fault here, it must have been a few bad apples.
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 4, 2011 at 6:23 am
Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.
I would like to hear the officer's response unfiltered by attorneys.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 4, 2011 at 12:24 pm
she's just shamed that her dad was arrested. Sorry kid, that the cops didn't have gold handcuffs for your dad to wear!
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 4, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.
Her comment was scarcely an indication of shame. It was exasperation at the lack of due process.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Dec 5, 2011 at 1:45 pm
It is only fair to publish the names of the Officers involved. There is nothing to hide if you're telling the truth, right?
It seems so typical to hide behind the badge and being the ones abusing the law. If the UC Davis case was not on Video, I bet we'll still be hearing, "the case is under investigation and there is no comment at this time."
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Dec 6, 2011 at 6:57 am
The conduct of police all over the country has become indistinguishable from that of police in fascist countries. Savagely beating up and pepper-spraying peaceful demonstrators, using excessive force against civilians, using brutality during arrests, rudeness toward the public, etc. Too many cops could just as easily be criminals if they hadn't become cops. We need police, but we don't need criminals wearing uniforms.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 7, 2011 at 6:23 am
This reminds me of a favorite quote of Bart Simpson: This is everybody's fault but mine.
If you are responsibly supervising minors drinking, there won't be enough commotion to cause the neighbors to call the police.
Maybe it is your opinion that minors should be given access to alcohol, but do you feel you have the right to extend that opinion to dozens of other people's children?
You didn't know they were drinking? That's just lame.
a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 8, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Arresting officer Ed Soares with photograph.
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a resident of Menlo Park
on Dec 13, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Anyone who thinks that parents can absolutely ensure there is no alcohol or drugs at a teen party is kidding themselves. I can tell you from personal experience that when the kids drink at a party, they do it where you can't see it happening. I can also assure you that cars are parked on your street, music gets turned up loud, and kids who you have never seen end up in your yard and on your street. Maybe you have to do this once and you will learn exactly how this works. The problem is your assumption is that your kid is a good kid, and all the friends are innocent. Once the party starts, you eventually figure out that it's not so easy to police the situation. Your instinct as a good parent is both to give the kids some space by keeping out of the way, and monitor for poor behavior. I assure you, however, that it's not so obvious or easy the first time you throw a teen party and things can get out of hand. For me, this event speaks very poorly of the Menlo Park Police. In this case, the phrase "no good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind. You can't punish innocent people for things they haven't yet learned and have no control over. When we pass laws removing alcohol commercials from television and begin to show some understanding of how difficult it is to be a teen parent, maybe I will change my mind. For now, I would like to hear how the fine officers of the Menlo Police Department are raising their kids.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Dec 16, 2011 at 12:53 am
Excellent detective work, Alexander!
So, looks like Officer Soares has moved up from East Palo Alto to Menlo Park. But, wait! He was a detective before and now, he's doing beats??
And all those tattoos on an officer? Now, we know better, don't we?
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Speaking to Reuters by satellite phone from an undisclosed location, Mullah Dadullah, the Taliban's military head, said the Islamic guerrillas had the ability and the weapons to fight foreign troops for a long time.
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* For the first time in the last five years, the number of terrorist incidents in South Asia (including Afghanistan and Pakistan), exceeded the number in the Near East (which includes Iraq).
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* The number of attacks in Afghanistan nearly doubled, from 1,222 in 2008 to 2,126 in 2009. There was a smaller increase, of 30 percent, in neighboring Pakistan.
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Subaru Legacy/Outback Transmission Problems
jbjjc9 Posts: 3Hi, I found the binding is the clutch packs located in the extension housing at the rear of the tranny and the blinking light is telling you an electrical fault occurred the last time you ran the car. That is probably the duty C solenoid which operates the clutch pack and is located in the extension housing as well, not at the tranny pan. I just had mine replaced 2 days ago for $550 and the car works fine. Check out these photos and you will see the clutch pack lying down and the solenoid mounted just to the right with wires coming out. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/All_talk/Subaru/4EAT/Image007.jpg I hope this helps.0
Very nice. Thanks for sharing; those photos are excellent. It looks like you did much more than just the center differential clutch pack and solenoid. Would you mind elaborating on the work for our benefit? Also, it looks like a few of the replacement parts (such as what looks like an internal drive shaft between the front and center differentials) are not the same between original and new. Did the new ones still work?2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup0
cosmic007 Posts: 1it is leaking out of the breather in the front diff it is a 1994 legacy can someone help me asap0
What kind of fluid is it leaking? Gear oil or automatic transmission fluid? If it is ATF, there is a good chance that the internal driveshaft seal to the front differential blew.2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup0
pupparent Posts: 31992 Subaru Legacy , FWD, Automatic Trans.,
I have a leak from the Gasket that goes in between the Transmission and the Differential.
Appx. what kind of price should I be expecting a transmission shop to charge to have this gasket replaced?
Could there be a reason why this gasket would have started leaking, besides it probably being the same age as the car?
Any info. provided is appreciated, I really need my car fixed but I don't want to get taken advantage of or be screwed over.
Thank You Everybody and Anybody!0
I am not really sure, but the transaxle does have to be pulled from the car. Based on that, I would estimate somewhere between 6-8 hours of labor. I would guess shop rates in your area are at least $100 (since they seem to be everywhere!), so probably between $700 and $1000.
Of course, the seal itself is probably a $20 part.... :sick:2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup0
pj43 Posts: 9I want to thank you very much for your link with trans.back end removed.
I finally had my 97 fixed, my mechanic went by your inst. the car works like a charm. No more blinking, no more biding in rev. no lunging forward when shutting off the engine. works great. pj430
smashermash Posts: 1I see this is an old post, however, I'm currently experiencing the same exact problem with my 2000 lgt wagon...I had to wait about 15 minutes before the transmission engaged tonight after work. The fluid is full and does not smell burnt or appear discolored. The transmission holds strong when in gear, just has technical difficulties engaging.
Just wondering if you or anyone else have been able to find some kind of solution to this problem. I'm not all that familiar with the operations of a transmission, but a coworker suggested that their may be some sort of hydraulic hose clogged or pinched that engages the transmission?? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
My 2001 Subaru has been having a lot of issues as of late. Every time I try to accelerate while in reverse or making a turn with the car the rpms go through the roof. It then lurches thereafter making it quite dangerous to be driving out on the road.
I took it to a transmission place after a mechanic recommended I take it there since they couldn't figure it out. The guy at Aamco said after testing my car the transmission was slipping and that the fluid in the transmission had a burnt smell and was not the color it should be. He said that it would cost around $600 just to look at it and then another $1000 for the soft parts and labor to get it fixed; however he said he doesn't know exactly what in the transmission is the problem.
Being that the cost of the fixing is around 1/3 of the value of the subaru, is there anything else it could be or another solution to the issue so that I don't have to fork over that huge some of money? Any ideas or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!0
After reading other posts it sounds like it could be a torque converter issue. Anyway this is just a little more info on the car. It has 78000 miles on it, and the car is jerking up until 30 mph. When going faster the car sounds and feels fine.0
redrose1 Posts: 49My car is about a month old.
When I accelerate after slowing down, the transmission seems to "slip" and then kick in, resulting in a jerk motion.
When I coast, letting thecar slow down, somewhere between 10-20 MPH, I feel the car slow down as if there was a slight application of brake, then a slight surge forward as if brake reased then a slowing down again. Feels to me like transmission changing gears.
Anyone else have this in their outback?0
tgl3 Posts: 6I have the exact same issue. i sent this to my dealer:
whenever i slow down, like approaching a red light, or approaching a turn,
but don't have to come to a complete stop and can speed up again, when i
give it the gas, the car revs like it is idling in neutral then jolts into
gear. Do i need to bring it in? this doesn't feel "normal".
And he said i should bring it in. which i did. the gave me a loaner and kept it 2 days. after which they said they drove 2 other new 3.6 R at they dealership and they all did that, so the told me it was "normal".
If i feather the accelerator just right, then it doesn't do it. But that isn't necessary on other cars ive owned. Hopefully if more are having the issue we can get better follow up from subaru. (other than this, i really like the car though)0
mpraspal Posts: 1I have a 2011 3.6R outback as well and my car is doing the same thing. I've never noticed this on any of the 3 subarus I've owned and I do not think this is normal. I've already been to the dealer twice with the vibration issue which was modified with stabilizer kit and a new steering wheel. Anyway, I plan on taking it back to the dealer because this 'dragging' I'm experiencing when I'm coasting after I take my foot off of the accelerator should not be happening. I already have a case file with subaru. I'll just add this as number 4 to the list.0
majbriggs Posts: 1I have the same issue with my 2011 3.6R. Having it slam into gear can be very disconcerting and it can't be good for the transmission.
I also have a rattling sound coming from somewhere in the front right area of the car. I've noticed that a small areal of the dashboard plastic, right next to the windshield, seems to be slightly higher than it should be, so this could be the cause. Anyone else come across this?
I am planning on raising these issues with my dealer when i bring it in for my first oil change.0
kel9 Posts: 1My Legacy is an automatic with the manual shift option. During the hot months in Florida, the car under-performed often and felt like it would stall when slowing to a stop and upon accelerating, too. Had it in a few times and the dealership said there were no "updates" available, but they had a few similar comments by other drivers. I took it in again yesterday and had a major ordeal! The tech deprogrammed the ignition key and when he got it reprogrammed, then the car completely quit on him when he drove it. Now they are ordering a new computer for the car. I don't know yet if the stall scare was due to needing a new computer or what. I want to know - if the computer is replaced does that mean it's bascially a new car system? Or, could there still be engine or transmission issues that caused my original concern? Thanks for any input!0
cudtomed Posts: 1my 1998 legacy outback front wheel spins and squeals when you pull out of a parking lot and when you floor the gas the car acts like it grabs a gear and the car goes a little side to side and its a auto trans the wheel are not binding that i know of its has a jdm trans and eng hope the front and rear gears have the same raito0
Sounds like a bad differential or clutch pack that is not allowing the wheels to spin at different speeds without binding.2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup0
1999 Subaru Legacy 2.5 Automatic 180,00 miles
I can force into overdrive by: 1) Manually shifting into Neutral 2) Then, manually shift into 3 gear (which is the gear the trans is actual in) 3) And then manually shift into Overdrive. But, transmission will shift down out of OD as soon as any load is applied to the engine.
Replaced: All Valve Body with Solenoids, TCM, TPS, and O.H, Kit. Still will won't up shift into OD.
No codes or any other problems.0
slyvest1 Posts: 1Our 2000 wagon with 80,000 miles has a trans harness o ring leak. Dealer's fix is to seal the leak for $200 rather than replace as was recommended in posting #361. Any comments on this fix?
Also, my Outback 2006 wagon is scheduled for its first transmission fluid replacement and the dealer told me that Subaru does not recommend a flush; just a drain and fill. Any comments on why not to flush?0
markoneill33 Posts: 1have 92 legacy awd 4 speed auto 135000 miles shifts hard from 1st to 2nd .not as bad in other gears fluid level seems ok0
marzelv Posts: 1Well.. My car is 13 years old (1997 Legacy Gt 2.5L) with 81,000 miles on it and it does that exact same thing. Not that it has much comparison other than the same type of car just a few years difference.0
*Also replaced: ECM, MAP sensor, and MAF sensor - NO EFFECT.
**In addition to above problem: Transmission will Shift fine if using Cruise Control.
So logically the problem has to do with the wiring - possibly a new Wiring Harness is needed, OR possibly there is a bad Ground (there are several).
I dont know enough about the circuitry between: how the transmission works using Cruise Control VS not using using Cruise Control.0
rhinca Posts: 1I am yet another frustrated Subaru owner experiencing the same transmission problem. I have a 2008 Outback automatic... for the last few months it has been lurching when it changes gears, especially when I let off the accelerator slightly. Sometimes it makes such a loud noise that everyone in the car jumps! Of course it does this intermittently (cant figure out a temperature correlation) and under different circumstances. I've taken it to the dealer 3 times (its there right now) Each time, they check it with the computer, make some adjustment, and the problem subsides for about 2 weeks. Today, they've told me that once again they've "fixed" the problem according to the computer, and that the print out reads everything is "normal." I put in a ticket with the Subaru headquarters, and am waiting for various managers to talk to other managers. I was delighted to find this thread (very validating). My 2008 Outback has never done this, and there is no way it is "normal." I will post an outcome if I get something tangible!0
I used to love Subaru's but, .....My wife bought a new Outback 2011 with the 3.6 engine and immediately experienced the same "clunking" transmission issue. Major intermittent hard shifting when slowing down and then accelerating, usually at a light that turns green or when rounding a corner. Very annoying and potentially a safety issue if someone's close in front of you and it bucks badly. Since it's intermittent, it can really surprise you.
I tried to get her to return it immediately but we had a road trip vacation planned and she thought the dealer would take care of it. She's taken it in 3 times and they acknowledge the problem but claim it's normal with "this new transmission." Service Manager says the clutch pack locks up when it downshifts to protect the transmission?? and that causes the hard shift. Field Service Engineer says it's "normal." I've had 2 other 3.6 Outbacks and never experienced the issue. It's hard to believe Subaru would let this kind of driver experience out the door and then call it normal. I'm making a call to Customer Dealer Services about the issue tomorrow. You can reach them at 800-782-2873. Hopefully, someone at the corporate level will recognize this as the potential class action suit it could become and get this fixed before it metastasises and damages their enviable reputation.0
Thanks for the post...I am having an identical problem with my 2008 Outback automatic as well. I was starting to think that I was imagining things or that this was normal...but there is NO WAY this is normal. I had mine in and service said there was a TSB for a computer "refresh" for a transmission shifting problem, but after getting it back, there was no difference. I don't have the loud noise you mention (yet) but it lurches when trying to shift at relatively low speeds and RPMs, mostly between 25 - 25 mph and around 1500 - 2200 rpms. Going from between 1st and 2nd it's clunky, and then races up to 3rd, then downshifts to 2nd again. Also when coming to a stop it seems to hold onto 2nd gear before it downshifts to 1st, not exactly safe.
Ya know, one of the reasons I bought the Subaru because it was rated off the charts on CR, and a safe car..I hope this can be fixed and that I don't regret this decision.0
I just replied to rhinca to say that I am having a very similar problem, and also wanted to let you know you also describe the issue we're seeing with a clunking transmission in our 2008 Outback automatic. The transmission sounds like it's not been re-engineered since between 2008 and 2011. : (
I'm interested to know if you got a response from Customer Dealer Services or not. I may try the same tack and have put in a request to schedule to have the Outback looked at again because this is simply not acceptable. I'll try +18007822873 as well. Thanks for the post.0
Your car and the 2011 have different transmissions. I have owned two Subaru Outbacks with the 4EAT that is in your car (one of which was also a 2008), and they were fairly smooth, so there is certainly nothing normal about the symptoms you describe.
I suspect the issue is with the electronic control, but I would also inspect the transmission fluid to see whether there are signs of physical wear in the unit, such as a browning of the fluid (should be bright red). Either way, Subaru ought to see it fixed.
Has the car done this since new? Have you driven any others to compare "normal" to the experience you have with your car? While the Outback and Legacy no longer use the 4EAT, the Forester and Impreza do.2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup0
The symptoms may be identical but the dealership says the problem occurs with the redesigned transmission that came out with the 2011 model. I'm still trying to get ahold of Customer Dealer Services - The telephone number I gave earlier was incorrect - It should be 1-800-782-2783 - .... Reached them, told them I'd seen reports on line - they are escalating the issue... will keep you posted.0
I agree. I have owned 2 previous Outbacks both 2006, and never experienced these sorts of issues. This new 2011, started clunking in the first several hundred miles. After 3 trips to the dealer, the Regional Service honcho reported it as "normal" for this new transmission. If so, they've really slipped up. I'm currently shepherding the issue through their escalation procedure.0
molderb Posts: 7I also have a 2011 Outback Limited 3.6 The day I drove it home is had a very rough shift. Seems to happen when not completely stopped and begin to accelerate. Took it right back, they said they did some kind of flash on the memory but it did not totally fix the problem. It has been getting progressively worse. I would NOT let a pregnant woman or anyone with a neck or back problem ride in my car at this point. The second visit back to my dealer they said they would make some calls to Subaru. I get a call back from my dealer saying that Subaru is aware of this problem but there is no fix for it at this time. My husband and I are tying to find others with the same issue, trying to figure out what our next step is/ options.0


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Astana National Pantheon Geometry Study
DSC Group's entry for the Kazakhtan National Pantheon competition intends to create a unique space of worship to the deceased having respect to the nation's many different traditions as the main goal. The project is developed from the elements that combine the different religions in a common place, the Pantheon, which becomes the core element of the project. On the other hand, the circle is also present in the symbol of Kazakhstan, both the flag and the shield, which makes it a referential symbol.
Traditional Kazakh burials consisted of small mounds. The body was deposited in a circular pit and finally covered with stones and earth, creating small hills along the landscape. This type of funeral rituals has been repeated in different cultures and parts of the world. In fact, these burials became a common cult activity throughout history.
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The cycle of life combines together birth, life and death in a single, closed, never ending curve.This curve and its meaning is present in many cultures and religions of the world, all of which are represented in the project proposal. Circular shapes have always been related to life, death and eternity. The circle represents the continuity, perfection, divinity, day and night, life and death, the equal and opposite... Dsc Group's idea is based on reflecting all these concepts within a single compositional element.
DSC Group's project proposes a continuation of the Kazakh tradition of burials in barrows generating artificial hills in the plains of the local landscape. Thus, the Vorodome is buried and generates a new landscape, under which the building stands. The outside grows by showing domes made with lightweight, transparent plastic, durable and recyclable materials (ETFE domes) and steel structures. Visitors can walk on the new topography built by the domes, which keep the landscape obstacle-free for the viewer. Thus, the project links to tradition, revisited from the point of view of modernity.
With the idea of establishing a single space, an attraction for visitors and following a concept of traditional burial, DSC Group decided to create an artificial topography, a new landscape that includes all the uses required for the correct operation of the building complex, in a homogeneous redevelopment of the Kabanbai Batyr memorial and the new burial spaces.
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