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"MY DEEP UNCERTAINTIES ABOUT THE BATTLE OF HASTINGS. King Harold either got stuck in the eye with an arrow or something else happened."
— @errolmorris, Twitter, July 9, 2011
By Jim Emerson
Ripped from today's headlines, Errol Morris's sensational Tabloid uncovers outrageous stories of sex, bondage, Mormons, kidnapping, cloning, drugging, buggery (or at least bugging) and betrayal circa 1977, and features more than one dog named Booger. The movie premiered almost a year ago, at the 2010 Telluride Film Festival — yet, between the surveillance scandals at Rupert Murdoch's gossip rags and the Tony-sweeping Trey Parker-Matt Stone missionary-position musical phenomenon The Book of Mormon, Tabloid could hardly be more of-this-very-moment.
Given the timing of its release and the nature of its subject, you might say Tabloid suggests that history doesn't have to begin as tragedy and repeat itself as farce; it can be farce every time. The lurid reports recounted here swirl around Joyce McKinney, a blonde 1970s beauty queen (Miss Wyoming) with an IQ of 168 who goes all-out to win the man of her dreams, a clean-skinned Mormon missionary named Kirk Anderson. When they met, she says, "It was like in the movies." Long story short, she and a (besotted slave?) accomplice wind up accused of kidnapping and sexually abusing the object of her desire. The way Joyce tells it, her beloved suddenly disappears without explanation as they are planning their wedding. With the help of a private eye and a good platonic friend, she tracks him down in England, rescues him from his Mormon "cult" brainwashers, and takes him to a cottage in Devon where she ties him to a bed, ravishes him (consensually) for three wonderful days of fun, food and sex. And love, too. Preparing to give him a warm cinnamon-oil back rub, she rips off his Mormon underwear and burns the "smelly" garments in the fireplace, an act both practical and symbolic.
Others, including Kirk himself sometimes, choose to present the situation quite differently. Words like "abduction" and "male rape" are bandied about, not just in the press but in the courtroom. Depending on which tabloid you read (say, the Daily Express or the Daily Mirror), you might follow the story as "The Mormon Sex in Chains Case" or "The Case of the Manacled Mormon." One yellow journalist, who is quite fond of the eye-catching S&M connotations of the phrase "spread-eagled," admits that Joyce would probably say rope was used, but that "chains" is much better for headlines. (As he and others use these sensationalistic terms, they are splashed across the screen in screaming headline fonts: "OBSESSED"; "CHAINED!"; "SPREAD EAGLED"; "DOWN SLAVE!"; "GUILT"…) That Kirk was physically attached to a bed for sexual purposes seems to be something everyone can agree upon. But was he a willing participant? Joyce says he admitted in court that the sex was "more consensual" the third time than it was the first.
Nobody more relishes telling a juicy tale — preferably one with absurd twists and multiple contradictory points of view — than Errol Morris, and this one's a flat-out doozy. You couldn't make it up. The film's cheeky, splashy style expresses what a blast the filmmaker is having bouncing allegations and innuendos off one another, and his goofball giddiness is infectious. Morris's trademark present-day Interrotron interviews with the principals are intercut with animated scandal-sheet headlines, clippings and photographs, some of them carefully pasted (or scotch-taped) into scrapbooks as if they were treasured albums of tabloid memories. Broadcast video is presented on an old Zenith television in front of avocado-hued, diamond-patterned wallpaper. Home video, stock footage and archival films appear in a round-cornered frame in the center of the otherwise black screen, the jittery edges suggesting 8mm photography.
"Tabloid" has everything a fascinatingly salacious story requires and more — not just the kinky sex and layers of intrigue to keep you guessing about who's lying and who's telling whose version of the truth, but the humor, smarts, skill and sizzle to make it all irresistibly enthralling. Just because it has so much fun being naughty, though, doesn't mean it's nothing more than lightweight entertainment.
Joyce says, "You know, you can tell a lie long enough that you believe it," and Morris has always been fascinated by the areas in which truth, deception and self-deception overlap. Like other Morris movies (The Thin Blue Line, A Brief History of Time, Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., Fast, Cheap & Out of Control, The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons From the Life of Robert S. McNamara, Standard Operating Procedure), Tabloid relies on unreliable narrators to launch an epistemological investigation (Morris claims to have once been a private eye) into questions that don't necessarily have knowable answers. (See tweet above.) But Morris reveals that's often because nobody's yet asked (or even discovered) the right questions — the most important one being: What is the evidence?
One of the theses of "Standard Operating Procedure" is that cameras not only recorded atrocities and abuses at Abu Grahib prison, but that some of the acts would not have happened if it weren't for the presence of those cameras. Morris's New York Times blog has detailed the hidden illusions and secret histories behind supposedly "documentary" photographs. Likewise, Tabloid illustrates the theory, in quantum physics, that the act of observing something alters what is observed. The movie itself is about the process of watching it — how we process, interpret and piece together what we see and hear. Or think we do. (See Fast, Cheap & Out of Control, a profound inquiry into the meaning of life and death that presents itself as an increasingly complex question: What are these four people — a lion trainer, a topiary gardener, a naked mole rat specialist and an artificial intelligence expert — doing in the same movie?)
And that's where the fun-house (Daily) Mirror of the tabloid press comes in. Though the non-fictional soap opera An American Family played on PBS in 1973, there was no such thing back then as a "reality show" — or nothing that went by that label, anyway. Today it seems, on every screen and every page, there's nothing but — fiction spiced with cinema verite, genuine emotions shaped into performances, improvisations that are partially scripted. Tabloid reveals what happens to people when they're forced to create their own public personae. How much do these media-crafted clones alter others' view of them, and their view of themselves — actually changing how they perceive reality?
The mixed metaphor of stepping into the spotlight and being under the microscope aptly captures the dichotomous nature of Joyce's situation: she is (whether she likes it or not) exposed in public, every detail of her past and present selves subjected to intense examination. At a certain point, the press finds she fits neatly into the age-old madonna-whore template: In the Daily Mirror she's a slutty Eve, the fallen temptress who seduced and corrupted Kirk; in the Daily Express, she's the saintly Christian martyr, an almost virginal (except for Kirk) victim of love, misunderstood by a hypocritical, dirty-minded society. As several observers note, somewhere in-between, maybe, is the truth.
EPILOGUE: Joyce McKinney has recently appeared at pre-release screenings of Tabloid around the country to vocally protest one version of herself she sees presented in the film: "It's not my story," she told the New York Times (a broadsheet, not technically a tabloid). "And I definitely plan to sue them. What they did was unconscionable. I always wanted to write a book, because my real story has never been told, except the Mormon version." As the movie says, she is writing a book to tell her real story: "A Very Special Love Story."
Tabloid co-producer Mark Lipson said in the Times: "It's a Looney Tunes 'Rashomon,' but 'Rashomon' all the same…. [It's] documentary as film noir, as a fairy tale, and like all good fairy tales it's totally perverse. I see her as the princess who crosses an ocean to rescue her somewhat reluctant, pear-shaped prince. She should take pride in knowing she had that kind of guts."
Do these people know how to sell a movie or what?
Jim Emerson is a Seattle-based writer, film critic and online video-maker. He is the founding editor of RogerEbert.com (where he also publishes his blog Scanners).
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According to the dell website you can put a ATi Radeon HD 3650 in this computer, no mention of a power supply replacement.
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Lots of this information is inaccurate, most blatantly is that he thinks the KERNEL is what might be limiting avidemux, and such, when its infinitely more possible that ubuntulinux just hasnt enabled use of mmx/sse/sse2 asm optimizations, which ffmpeg optionally supports.
and then when he says it can cause stability problems to use the for example k8 optimized kernel, wth is that? it seems he is sadly misinformed.
the worst part is, most people believe 100% what random bozos put on their blogs, as it if was absolute truth.
The test is still relevant, as most users will not recompile their software for better optimizations. They will just use what they get from apt-get.
the worst part is, most people believe 100% what random bozos put on their blogs, as it if was absolute truth.
And are you claiming then that the blogger's result were false? He was receiving lower performance in several important applications under Linux than under XP. I do suspect it's the CFS scheduler which just tries to balance everything instead of giving one application way much more CPU time than another one. Linux did beat Windows hands-down in multitasking in his test after all.
I think I'll do a similar test on my laptop, though I'm gonna test Gentoo, Mandriva and XP. If Linux scores lower then are you going to claim my results false, too?
IMHO his tests were pretty much OK and valid. It doesn't really matter what is the cause in these things, it's the end-result which matters. One can debate things for all eternity if one wishes but no end-user will care about that.
i think the test results were reasonably fair. Taking a fairly unmodified out of the box Ubuntu install is reasonable. I think if he compiled any of the applications or the kernel it would have been cheating seeing that those who are not so tech-savvy would not even consider any extra configuration. I think tests like these are useful to show that much need to be done on the default settings of distros to make sure they run well for the most popular applications. Good test and I look forward to seeing the results of other distros. Thx
Sorry, these benchmarks were irrelevant to me.
Ubuntu 8.04 is a clusterf@%k. OpenGL is inherently broken, it is buggy and slow. Hopefully in the next couple of months all the bugs will have been ironed out.
A much better test would be Ubuntu 7.10 V's XP SP3
Currently, I am typing this into Konqueror, while the PC is busy removing 8.04 and re-installing 7.10
I'm really not sure what you're talking about. A long-time Gentoo user who desperately needed a non-source-based distro for my new Macbook Pro, with much reluctance I gave Kubuntu-kde4-8.04 a try, and have been (decently) pleased.
Is there some story, some blog post, some link that you can give us telling us why 8.04 is the clusterf@%k you claim it to be?
I'd be interested to hear any intelligent criticism, much more so than unsubstantiated claims.
Not sure what's causing you problems - 8.04 seems to work well for me. Perhaps you have some "interesting" hardware?
But one of the features of free software is that you can stay with 7.10 for as long as you like if that works better for you, unlike certain other environments I know (*cough* XP *cough*).
XP - supported since 2001. Before it is done, it will wind up having being supported for 7-8 years. On the other hand, Ubuntu 7.10 will only be supported for a total of 1.5 years. I hope your cough get better.
You missed my point rather badly.
I can still download and install the original Ubuntu 4.10 today (get it at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/), while XP will die on 30 June (except for a few markets where Vista is hopelessly unable to compete) simply because Microsoft wants it to die. And Microsoft can deactivate *your* permission to run XP without recourse, as they did my daughter. Read your EULA.
And lauding Microsoft for supporting XP for 7 years is disingenuous and a bit laughable - it was Microsoft's ONLY OS for 5 long, delay-filled years until Vista shipped to a less-than-glowing reception. Of COURSE they supported it for what seemed like eternity!
Canonical ships new Ubuntu releases every 6 months with all the reliability of a Japanese passenger train, so they are supporting each release for 2 full successor lifecycles (*6* for Long Term Support releases like 8.04).
Hope that clarifies why Microsoft makes me cough. :-)
Windows offer bigger CPU priority for one task, so is natural that for one task Windows will outperform Linux. That is happening too cause the Linux does have better priority algorithms that may be less performance for one task, as much as they offer better response on multiple tasks (CFS).
Linux have sometimes worse drivers (e.g. for Ati cards) where Linux have to lose as performance wise systems. Excluding that Linux kernel is similar as capabilities with Longhorn kernels, means fully scalable, secure, better cache tuned.
So, Linux is better than XP
If i'm working with Blender I don't give a *whatever* CFS is doing - I need to finish my work in time. So Linux sux. If Ubuntu is positioned as Desktop OS it should work like desktop OS. If i will need server OS for heavy miltitasking i will use one that suits me right, but when i need desktop os to work with multimedia linux is no good for me.
You don't get the gist of the compromises being made here. Windows multi-tasks and does some renicing in favour of the active application currently running, automatically. The problem with this is that the foreground running program, especially one as intensive as Blender, tends to drag down the rest of the system as a result. As soon as you multi-task to something else, poof, everything runs slower. Will that help you get your work done faster? Thankfully, this doesn't happen on any Linux system I've yet used.
However, in this case I doubt whether a renice would help Blender. There are a few other performance bottlenecks to look at first before doing that.
I don't buy your reasoning. If a scheduler degrades performance when you only run one application, then the scheduler is broken. I hardly think that is true for modern Linux schedulers.
Then you just claim that Linux is similar to the Vista kernel but better without any reasoning or proof.
"I like Linux more than Windows therefore it's better".
but you never run just one application, or do you?
all services and such are also applications. i guess it would be a bit hard for the scheduler to know exactly wich application the user preffers. well thats what nice is for. but then ordinary users dont want to fiddle with such things. maby desktop distributions should make so all desktop apps get higer priority. or add so users could chose priority by rigth klicking on a window
i know there is a better write up about it out there somewhere, but right now i cant find it...
I will find the Linux-Windows benchmarks interesting as soon as there is a check of Adobe InDesign/Photoshop performance. Self-made scripts or comparing three/four flagship programs all the time and shouting "Linux IS faster" is so... well, never mind. It seems that someone tries to sell me a car, when I need a train ("ok, maybe it wouldn't take all the carbon you need to transport, but look, it is faster!").
Noone needs superfast OS with no top-level apps. Let it be Win98 as long as I can finish my job.
You picked me up worng there...
The first post was purely because the benchmarks are irrelevant to me, and in all honestly, to everyone else to. Benchmarks are never a true life reflection.
My second post was just a reply back to the usual posting that "linux is crap because Photoshop/Dreamweaver/ do not install natively".... same old story, same old tune. Some people expect the world to pander to their needs.
Noone needs superfast OS with no top-level apps. Let it be Win98 as long as I can finish my job.
In a way, I agree with this. It doesn't matter what operating system you use or how slow it is, as long as you can do your work.
In general, Linux boxes run lighter and faster and if someone is prepared to alter their work habits to work with Linux, they can get a very nice experience.
I can't imagine anyone thinking that they can get more performance out of Windows, whatever the release, than with Linux. All the optimisations in application software and Windows' bias to give more priority to the foreground application help, but when I quit an application and it takes several seconds for the icons on the desktop to be regenerated, I have to laugh.
Hello, I'm the blogger who wrote the article:
I still thank Redeeman for spending his time reading my post. I'd like to answer some of his points:
"he thinks the KERNEL is what might be limiting avidemux, and such, when its infinitely more possible that ubuntulinux just hasnt enabled use of mmx/sse/sse2 asm optimizations, which ffmpeg optionally supports."
I was trying to guess where the problem was, and I can confirm that I had installed all media codecs and both LAME and Avidemux were using their internal ASM optimizations but I don't know about Ubuntu kernel.
"he says it can cause stability problems to use the for example k8 optimized kernel"
Replacing Ubuntu default kernel with another ubuntu-supplied kernel for the same version is safe, but using any other kernels can certainly cause issues especially for unexperienced users.
"The worst part is, most people believe 100% what random bozos put on their blogs, as it if was absolute truth."
Blogs are not tech labs or magazines. They are for people to share their experiences with the rest of the world. They naturally come without any warranty except for what reader want to belive. Personally, I still believe that there are a lot of credible blogs and one only need to have faith in people.
Finally, you can do a similar test yourself, it is very simple. I can assure you that you'll get similar results.
I still believe that there are a lot of credible blogs and one only need to have faith in people.
Just to defend the guy, I'd say we have the right places where faith matters. In such cases credibility is what matters. And, however deep they say we are in the web2 mud, I have yet to get convinced by the credibility of the random blogger. In any issue whatsoever. That doesn't mean there aren't incredibly good ones, but you'd bettet take everything with a - grand - grain of salt.
Finally, you can do a similar test yourself, it is very simple. I can assure you that you'll get similar results.
I'd say not, I'm pretty sure one could produce fairly different results with a recompiled kernel and recompiled apps, or on a well compiled Gentoo, whichever.
Edited 2008-05-21 11:32 UTC
I think biggest problem is you cannot consider such data as absolute. Custom-configured machines are heavily dependent on personal preferences (for ex. did you buy specific hardware because you needed it to work with Linux? Maybe Windows with other hardware is blazing faster... maybe not... but this is an example of what I meant), constrains and so on.
Moreover, you cannot assume same application is optimized for different platforms the same way. By using the same application on both platforms, you cannot assume both versions are optimized and working at maximum speed they could do. Think QT and GTK: would you state that those ARE optimized for Windows platform? I don't think you can state that and that would modify your overall results.
I'm afraid that those data only demonstrate that, for applications you're using on hardware you own and for usage you're willing to do by them, Ubuntu MIGHT be faster. And we're happy for you.
I'm sure I can find thousands of combination where Windows can be faster. Plus, remember that many important details cannot be reproduced with a few tests but require more analytic approach.
Overall, your info can be useful to people willing to work with your hardware and willing to use same software you use. But you cannot use them to measure actual OS performance.
Obviously this has alot to do with what is installed and configured on a base system. I think Desktop oriented linux distributions should spend alot more resources on kernel patches and configuration to make it optimal for KDE/Gnome response time. What i'm seeing is instead the different distro's fighting to release the latest x alpha version of software y. I need a solid responsive desktop, not a CFS based kernel with alpha 2 of openoffice on beta 5 of Gnome 3.8 or whatever!
This alpha software race is destroying Linux' credibility on the Desktop.. and as i mentioned in a previous comment .. makes Linux NOT 'Ready for the Desktop'!
The author repeatedly blames NTFS (vs ext3) for the slower ClamAV performance. The methodology doesn't justify blaming the filesystem. The VFS or IO drivers can also contribute, or it could conceivably be related to NT security policy settings... more investigation is warranted before you can pin the difference down to the filesystem.
Typically, anything dealing with lots of small files will crawl on Windows, where the overhead of actually opening a file is very high. Similar problems occur with large directories (more than 1000 files or so). Either could have happened with the ClamAV test, and that might begin to explain the discrepancy.
Blaming NTFS itself might be a bit hasty, but there's definitely something going on in the Windows filesystem somewhere. The same issues do not seem to effect Linux nearly as much.
I wonder what was going on with the Blender benchmark though. Much of Blender's performance is dependent on OpenGL performance, so was the problem to do with nVidia's drivers, or the desktop effects which are present on Ubuntu but not Windows XP.
I cannot vouch for the CalmAV benchmark authenticity - but I can offer numbers of my own.
A certain I/O benchmarking tool (C, POSIX/Win32) that I've developed was designed to simulate high I/O using very high number of small files (1K-20K) running concurrent create/write/close cycles under different directories.
On the same machine (2x2C-Xeon, 4GB, SCSI RAID5) - under Windows 2K3 (i386/NTFS/no-8.3-names), the application was hard pressed to pass the 5MB/s line. Under Linux (CentOS5, ext3 [noatime/nodiratime], SELinux enabled) the application managed to sustain around 60MB/s.
Switching to FAT32 did improve the performance (~12MB/s) but I doubt that using FAT32 is a desirable solution.
After doing some additional research it seemed that:
A. CreateFile is dead slow. Around 10-100 times (!!!) slower then open/Linux.
B. NTFS performs OK as -long- as you keep the file count (per directory) to <100.
C. Once you pass the 100 line things get far worse, -fast-.
D. NTFS goes into what-looks-like a winter hibernation once you pass the 10,000 file/directory line.
E. NTFS doesn't seem to like deep directory hierarchy (If you rather replace file count with directory count). The deeper you go, the slower things get.
You can argue that I'm a poor Win32 developer or that I've missed anything (beyond disabling 8.3 filenames) - but you can try it yourself.
- Gilboa
Could you send me the benchmark pls? I'd like to try it on 2008 and post results.
Send to firstname.lastname@example.com pls.
Thx a lot
On the same machine (2x2C-Xeon, 4GB, SCSI RAID5) - under Windows 2K3 (i386/NTFS/no-8.3-names), the application was hard pressed to pass the 5MB/s line. Under Linux (CentOS5, ext3 [noatime/nodiratime], SELinux enabled) the application managed to sustain around 60MB/s.
Switching to FAT32 did improve the performance (~12MB/s) but I doubt that using FAT32 is a desirable solution.
After doing some additional research it seemed that:
A. CreateFile is dead slow. Around 10-100 times (!!!) slower then open/Linux.
B. NTFS performs OK as -long- as you keep the file count (per directory) to
I'd like to say a few things.
There can be a lot of difference between performances of systems with stock and locally compiled kernels. Also, the picked schedulers can sometimes make a great difference. Additionally, there can be a lot of difference between differently compiled versions of the same app. Moreover, we don't have - or I haven't notice - information about what is running on those machines while the tests were performed (important from the scheduling and task management point of view). There would be a _lot_ of difference between these results and those gathered on a well setup Gentoo machine. Then, why something like rar, why not - from the top of my head - e.g. bzip2 ? Then, I also don't like the ext3 vs ntfs claim, and I'd say the difference mostly lies in driver performance and the difference of types of files [e.g. many small files, and so on].
suspicions about Ubuntu's ability to take advantage of modern CPU's capabilities
Now here's where that changing the default kernel can cause stability problems claim (funny at that) translates to changing [bad wording though] the default kernel can cause ... performance (!).
this requires technical knowledge
I'd say if one believes to have the technical knowledge to produce acceptable benchmarks, then (s)he should also have the technical knowledge to custom compile a few things.
Edited 2008-05-21 11:25 UTC
Well the one doing the benchmark could absolutely optimize both systems. But that wouldn't make sense for non-technical readers.
The point is that the default setup of Ubuntu and Windows is what's important to most people. My mother is a teacher in multimedia and she uses both WinXP and Ubuntu. She doesn't know what the kernel even is, let alone how to recompile it. So what she, and many others, are stuck with is the default configuration of her system. That's what matters. That's what I care about.
But sure, for tech-readers it may be interesting to see what you can get if you everything you absolutely can to get good results, including recompiling with optimized flags, configuring software or even change different parts of the system. I don't think that's what the author really aimed at, though.
Edited 2008-05-21 11:39 UTC
I'd like to reply here:
My test was not about how fast Ubuntu or Linux in gerenal CAN BE. It's how Ubuntu 8.04 perform against Windows XP SP3. I'd stick to its default setup with a couple of easy tweaks that can also be done on Windows. I don't even pretend to know the reasons behind the benchmark scores. I merely suggest what my limited knowledge help me with.
Well, improving performance and improving stability are completely different things, don't you think?
Of course I know how to customise linux. In fact, I never settle with the default options, but again, it's a test of Ubuntu Hardy as it is offered to the world against Windows XP SP3 as Microsoft did it.
I can't believe this, two pages already and people are attacking the guy. The guys benchmarks aren't the issue. The issue is, what you define as performance; its all very well testing whether you can throttle the system and produce desired result, but if the throttling of the system means that the whole system is locked up whilst a task is being completed - its hardly going to be useful to the end user who might want to do something whilst waiting for a task to complete.
When designing a scheduler, you either have throughput, responsiveness or guaranteed time (aka real time). You choose one, and something else suffers. If you try to do what Microsoft does - you end up with a highly complex, convoluted system that attempts to be everything to everyone. This drives up complexity and all the things that go with it. No use talking about a system that can do it all but is bloody unstable to the point of being useless.
In regards to Auxx, stop being so pig-shit-ignorant. The purpose of a desktop operating system is MAXIMUM RESPONSIVENESS TO THE END USER:
And you're a frigging moron for not taking the brain power to actually work out what the hell CFS actually is, and the compromises being made so that you, Joe Annoying User can have that balance between throughput and responsiveness. But of course, keep prattling on over things you have no idea about.
And here you are being pathetically uneducated to the point it is gone past laughable to being bloody annoying. Ubuntu is doing exactly what a desktop operating system is meant to do; balancing throughput and responsiveness. What the hell you're going on about servers for, god only knows, because it has nothing to do with the conversation.
The last technical conversation you were involved with, you were chewed up and spat out by numerous posters - and you're making a jackass of yourself again.
I agree with you on what WE the users want, but Ubuntu precisely fails at that. Responsiveness to the user is lower than with Windows' "convoluted" system.
Maybe desktop oriented distros should patch the scheduler to do what the users want it to do instead of being potentially useful for some freak background scientific calculations or Internet services.
Windows has a switch for Linux-style unresponsive mode(it's under computer advanced settings).
Firefox is slower in Linux, hell, firefox GUI is less responsive in Linux than in OpenBSD(!), and that's saying something since OpenBSD is a server oriented OS that seeks security over performance and Desktop features. You can blame the background Internet orifices, I mean services, that most certainly are enabled by default in Linux, but even if it came with a strong AI service, the GUI should always have a large enough chunk of the processor time reserved so as to never be unresponsive.
I will give up a 20% reduction in compilation time just to have a responsive GUI, any day.
The multitasking test was completed faster on Linux. What does this mean? It means that the programs got more CPU time. From where could they get that extra CPU time? From the task switches.
The biggest factor speedwise in a scheduler is how often it switches tasks. The less task switches, the more CPU time to the programs. If there are more task switches CPU time is "wasted" in task switches, instead of used by programs.
What does this mean? It means that if a multitasking benchmark completed sooner, then it most likely used less task switches.
Is that good, or is it bad? For desktop use, it's really bad. If this is about desktop performance, Windows XP should win that particular test, because it obviously uses more task switches, which is good for desktop performance (=responsiveness).
When I compile something in a terminal, and try to switch another window, then I want to do that. I don't want to wait one more second on GCC. That is desktop performance.
> Ubuntu is doing exactly what a desktop operating
> system is meant to do; balancing throughput and
> responsiveness
So when Linux is both slower (see the blander test) and less responsive (just try it or see the multitasking test), that's balancing speed and responsiveness?
Besides, that's only your opinion. My opinion that responsiveness is the one and only desktop goal. Only when responsiveness is good enough, speed can be prioritized. But it must never ever interfere with responsiveness.
Edited 2008-05-21 13:18 UTC
You are argumenting your claim totally wrong. Spending more time doing task switches doesn't improve responsiveness, it only means the applications have even less CPU time overall for them. Imagine if you had two systems, one which spent 5% of its CPU time doing task switches and another one which spent 10% of its time doing the same; system 1 would leave 95% left for the applications and system 2 would leave 90% left for them, no matter how many task switches each one does.
The fact is, the less time the system spends doing application management instead of running the application the less time the apps have to respond to user input.
No matter how you put it, an increase in the number of task switches reduces the average time it takes before a task gets the cpu. This means it can react to new input with a shorter delay. That's responsiveness.
Sure, with less task switches the tasks get a bigger share of the CPU, but it gets its share in big chunks with a lot of time in between (this time is when the other tasks get their share). During that time it can't take user input, which results in a loss of responsiveness.
The only exception is a system with only one task, where less task switching improves responsiveness. But if you have only task, then you don't need task switches.
In my opinion loss of responsiveness is not acceptable under any circumstances ever. Sadly, major OSes thinks its completely OK, and in fact an excellent idea to regularly prevent the user from using his computer for up to a second (in bad cases) or even longer.
You do realize, I hope, that task switches are measured in milliseconds? Increasing the frequency of task switches will not get you a more responsive-to-human-input environment; other factors (such as scheduling algorithms) completely swamp that factor.
Nor is it reasonable to assume that an environment that runs slower must be switching tasks more frequently. It is much more likely to be spending more time running non-interactive tasks such as virus scans, handling system tasks such as network I/O, or dozens of other routine matters.
My personal experience on computers with both XP and Ubuntu installed has been that Ubuntu is noticeably more responsive, principally because XP spends so many cycles scanning for malware (using McAfee and Norton Defender). However, how you configure both environments will have a great impact on how responsive the environments "feel".
You should use what you like, of course.
When I compile something in a terminal, and try to switch another window, then I want to do that. I don't want to wait one more second on GCC. That is desktop performance.
My experience shows that Ubuntu 8.04 is more responsive than XP. That is one thing I notice when switching from XP to Ubuntu. While some heavy task running that make my processor really hot, I can switch applications and desktops easily, and do something with them.
It really surprised me really, because if that happened in XP, switching applications will give me white blank windows, and I have to wait until XP can redraw the windows.
Edited 2008-05-21 14:20 UTC
The multitasking test has the right conclusion!
From my experience with running applications (for example FE-Codes like ABAQUS or EXCITE), Linux is much more responsive on heavily loaded to overloaded systems than Windows XP. At least this is true for RHEL3.x and XP SP2.
When you run an EXCITE process on a 4 core Linux system and tell it to use 4 CPU's, you will notice some less responsiveness, but you can still work on the machine. Renice the EXCITE job, and you will notice almost no change in responsiveness to an unloaded system.
Do the same on XP, and the computer can barely run a web browser with decent responsiveness.
This is just my observation when I am working for my employer. I have no measurements to back that up with numbers, but it feels like Linux looses 10 - 20% of its responsiveness, and XP looses 50 - 70%. It is consistent through several Linux and Windows machines.
What I do now: I just run the job on a Windows machine with 3 CPUs, and loose some time through this.
When Windows grinds to a halt like that it's usually because of the different (and obviously dreadful) policy when it comes to memory caching and swapping. As soon as something is swapped to disk, you've basically lost the performance battle. Linux seems to excel here, by not swapping to disk so quickly.
At this very moment I'm running while (true) loop that takes as much cpu time as it can get, on an old single-core processor.
There is almost no loss of responsiveness. I can browse the web without noticing anything. Redrawing minimized explorer windows takes probably 0.2 seconds more. Minimizing and restoring Opera is as fast as normal.
I haven't tried this on Linux, but it can't possibly be better, because XP is so good in this matter.
Of course doing background tasks will take more time, but I don't care as long as I can do my foreground tasks.
Edited 2008-05-21 20:28 UTC
Regarding the Blender benchmark -- did you enable multiple threads?
On Blender 2.45, only a single-threaded render pipeline is enabled by default, and unless you're familiar with Blender, you may not know how to turn on multi-threaded rendering. Makes a significant difference here.
Download & run the test with the new Blender 2.46, which has 'auto' multi-threaded rendering and see if that changes anything.
I do not understand why this mistake, the comparison between Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows xp sp3, and not between Linux (kernel) and Microsoft systems.
kernel recompile is not required for normal user or improve the performance of Windows, i think it is good comparison because it talks about the Ubuntu 8.04 default, and Windows default ..
Of course we must expect some difference results when using different hardware , or testing various conditions, but the comparison according to current conditions seem objective
To make XP perform with scheduling and caching a bit more like Linux you just tell it to give all processes equal CPU quanta and change the caching. It's quite easy and takes maybe 30 seconds and is not for the ultra-geeky only.
Check out my website (http://www.recoverymonkey.org) for an in-depth article on the subject.
For Linux he should at the very least use the proper kernel and possibly recompile the apps for the CPU in question. Obviously not good for non-techies.
I'd have done the same tests with Vista and 2008 Server just to be thorough.
Edited 2008-05-21 15:44 UTC
To make XP perform with scheduling and caching a bit more like Linux you just tell it to give all processes equal CPU quanta and change the caching.
AFAIK the whole point was to compare _default_ installations, without some arcane modifications which no Average Joe would do. Trying to crank as much performance as ever possible from either system would need a totally different kind of a review and point of view.
I am going to start installing XP, Mandriva and Gentoo on my laptop later on today and shall conduct a similar test tomorrow or perhaps the next day. The only thing I'll change though is that I won't turn 3D bling on under Linux since XP doesn't have that, and I will turn Beagle off. We'll see what results I get.
AFAIK the whole point was to compare _default_ installations, without some arcane modifications which no Average Joe would do. Trying to crank as much performance as ever possible from either system would need a totally different kind of a review and point of view.
It would still be academically useful. I've seen HUGE differences in I/O doing what I suggested above. Those tweaks are NOT arcane, are well-documented and are far easier to enable than anything one can do on Linux.
Indeed, for pro audio apps, FAQs recommend you set the system that way, for instance.
It all depends on what you're doing.
NO system behaves optimally for ALL workloads.
Closest I've seen is Windows 2008 Server.
thank you, i was going to post the same thing. Windows NT's scheduler is actually very configurable.
You have a choice of:
3 foreground priority boost levels
Variable or Fixed quanta (timeslices)
Long or Short quanta
And any combination of the above.
The default for XP is to give the foreground app a 2x quanta boost with variable short quanta.
CFS tries to be fair through exact timing and clever algorithms, but XP can be fair with strict round robin policy.
Personally, I like the way NT hard codes the mouse and audio into the scheduler so they rarely skip. CFS will cause your mouse and music to skip under load.
Also, XP's foreground boost makes sense for interactive reasons. A while ago there was a patch in CFS to add a Xorg priority boost in the scheduler.
Edited 2008-05-21 18:48 UTC
Most of these apps are Linux Applications ported to windows. The problem with that is the fact when you make a Application for Unux/Linux you are working with a different mindset then doing it for windows and vice versa.
Lets use GIMP perfromance. GIMP for linux uses GTK which has a lot of development for x optimization. vs. GTK for Windows which works more as a wrapper on microsofts windows method. So GIMP works at a lower level on Linux and a higher level on Windows.
>> The tests were performed on the exact same machine,
>> except for one tiny detail: Windows XP was installed
>> on a SATA disk, while Ubuntu had to settle for an ATA
>> one. Interestingly, Ubuntu still outperformed Windows
>> XP on IO intensive tasks.
I don't see how having two completely different harddisks could be considered a 'tiny detail'. Curiously the benchmarker has only seen fit to specify the brand, capacity and interfaces used - nothing about rotational speed, cache, seek time etc..
Surely if for some reason the Ubuntu system didn't support the SATA drive (seems unlikely), why didn't he just use the PATA drive for both?
I highly agree. I had a laptop that I used to run large virtual machines (Parallels). Eventually, they outgrew my internal hard-drive, and I put them on my external USB 2.0 hard-drive. I expected performance to drop significantly. I was surprised when it went up. Then I thought about it - 5400rpm internal vs. 7200rpm external. That explained it.
One thing a lot of people miss here:
those were stock installations of both ubuntu and windows. As far as I remember, WindowsXP is compiled for i386 - same goes for Ubuntu. Those were stock installations, the versions were provided and those are well-defined test environments.
I wonder whether he considered using `nice' though ...
Now, regarding RAR: I am very sure that RAR uses the same algorithm under both windows and *x. I do not know how retarted you have to be to write an unportable compressor/decompressor in any language which has a standard library supporting bit logic and file IO.
I found the post very informative and especially representative for most of SP3 and Ubuntu machines. Few people consider architecture-native software and messing with nice [granted, I really used it only in extreme situations].
This benchmark especially shows where developers and distributions might want to start profiling - something very often being ignored/forgotten.
I'd like to see him compare a custom kernel to the default kernel and to XP. I'm mostly curious to see if there is any speed advantages to a custom kernel versus the default kernel. When I upgraded the kernel on ubuntu 8.04 to 2.6.25.x it would no longer log into gnome. Luckily I had kde 4 installed and it logged into that just fine. Its a weird problem.
Users of OpenGL (eg. Blender etc) may be interested in the very recent article comparing driver performance between Linux and Windows using the ATI driver 8.47.3.
Summary: Linux comes out on top on more of the benchmarks. Very well done AMD to turning things around!
Note that Ubuntu 8.04 uses fglrx driver version 8.47.3. I noticed that on my HP nw8240 laptop with a FireGL V5000 Mobility (essentially an X700) the frame rate in GLgears went from 1400 to 4030. Plus the rate is the same whether logged in as an ordinary user or as root (it used to be faster when running as root). Wow!
My machine with an Nvidia 8800GTX always ran quick under Linux.
If you are on a ATI card and Blender runs slow, don't whinge here - it just shows you haven't configured your workstation properly (duh!). Do a simple check by running 'glxinfo' and ensure it contains an output line with "direct rendering: yes". If it doesn't then figure out how to get OpenGL running in hardware, since you are running in software.
I'm happy to help you out with this if you want (just reply to this message, and all can see what needs to be done).
Edited 2008-05-21 19:36 UTC
Summary: Linux comes out on top on more of the benchmarks. Very well done AMD to turning things around!
Note that Ubuntu 8.04 uses fglrx driver version 8.47.3. I noticed that on my HP nw8240 laptop with a FireGL V5000 Mobility (essentially an X700) the frame rate in GLgears went from 1400 to 4030. Plus the rate is the same whether logged in as an ordinary user or as root (it used to be faster when running as root). Wow!
My machine with an Nvidia 8800GTX always ran quick under Linux.
If you are on a ATI card and Blender runs slow, don't whinge here - it just shows you haven't configured your workstation properly (duh!). Do a simple check by running 'glxinfo' and ensure it contains an output line with "direct rendering: yes". If it doesn't then figure out how to get OpenGL running in hardware, since you are running in software.
I'm happy to help you out with this if you want (just reply to this message, and all can see what needs to be done).
That has always been the case with X11 - there are people here on osnews.com who like to perpetuate the urban myth that X11 is a performance liability. The only evidence to prove such a preposterous assumption is "windows tear" - ignoring the fact that tearing is a by-product of synchronisation and buffering issues rather than it having anything to do with 'performance' - performance being throughput. Heck, I remember back when I used to frequent COLA (comp.os.linux.advocacy), there used to be frequent displays even back in the XFree86 days of, when X11 was benchmarked, it outperformed Windows without any specialised tweaking involved.
I'm running Solaris SXCE with an Nvidia Quadro 570 FX (Mobile) with the latest drivers, and the responsiveness and snappiness is far higher than what I experienced when running Windows Vista Basic (which was the preloaded version on this lenovo thinkpad). With GNOME 2.22.1 installed (Vermillion B91), the stability, speed and snappiness is even better than before. Hence, I find it incredibly funny when I hear people go on about how great Windows is, and yet, if one were to use the metric of improvement of products on the same hardware - each release for Microsoft is a further regression.
I agree. I found the recent (Open)Solaris to be the most responsive on x86 hardware.
I believe the main advantage for Windows left now is the breadth of games. However, this is sure to change since Macs now sell 66% of retail sales over US$1000 (according to Slashdot and eweek, see http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/05/20/0146218.shtml). Office users don't buy in this segment, but home users and gamers do. Once the Windows advantage in games has been diluted by Macs and consoles then I believe Microsoft's previous dominance of IT will be quite weak.
I believe the main advantage for Windows left now is the breadth of games. However, this is sure to change since Macs now sell 66% of retail sales over US$1000 (according to Slashdot and eweek, see http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/05/20/0146218.shtml). Office users don't buy in this segment, but home users and gamers do. Once the Windows advantage in games has been diluted by Macs and consoles then I believe Microsoft's previous dominance of IT will be quite weak.
I know alot of students (and parents, etc) today who are actually now purchasing cheap laptops and desktops (hence the low number of US$1000 machines, and Apples dominance) and deciding to go for games consoles instead. I can think of at least 30 people I know who decided that a $1000 laptop with Intel integrated everything used solely for internet and university work, and purchase a console with a decent tv for playing games. Not only does the machine last a lot longer, the software availability is large, and most importantly, you're not on a treadmill of continuous upgrades simply so you can run a given game.
I think the other myth created by Microsoft is marketshare; take New Zealand, the number of Windows machines that are merely used as dumb terminals, I'd say there are atleast 30,000 desktops of the public sector where all the work is actually done on mainframes. Same can be said with banking in New Zealand as well; yes, there are thousands of desktops there too; but very few are actually using the local resources, its all being done on a mainframe or a big UNIX server. So the one thing I always emphasise is the myth of Windows market share.
As for Macs, I think they'll take off without any problems, with Laptops leading the way. As the performance gap between desktop and laptop become smaller, people will choose a laptop over a desktop -for me, I have both, but even at home, I prefer my laptop as I can sit anywhere and use it. I am not locked to my desk. With that being said, its going to be interesting to see what happens in the future. I think the best chance *NIX has for the future is the focus on supporting laptops very well. Make it *THE* laptop operating system - once you've done that, everything else falls into place.
BeOS wasn't famous for its kernel, VM or hardware accelerated graphics but the app server was designed well and that is why it was so responsive.
How is X not responsive? as I said, people use 'tearing' when resizing windows as an example, ignoring that it has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with poor synchronisation and double buffering - in other words, nothing to do with responsiveness.
If you are getting bad performance, 9/10, its crappy drivers; case in point; I had crappy performance with Solaris using my ATI Radeon X300 video card; pulled it out, replaced it with a Nvidia 8400, and voilà, perfectly responsive.
Mind you, quite frankly, if you're going out and purchasing hardware and you want to run Linux - quite frankly, you're silly even thinking that ATI is a viable option given the royal shafting ATI/AMD has given to the opensource community in the past - and the lack of quality drivers today.
Ubuntu 8.04 has a regression in the desktop kernel that is causing problems with multimedia apps. I think that could be the problem. I've installed the update form ubuntu-proposed and the difference is remarkable.
More info here:
2 different drives, on 2 different busses etc.
Sure the Linux one was faster in some, and Windows was faster in others but it just makes the results unpredictable to use 2 different drives.
Windows software likely uses a better and more optimized compiler, whereas Linux software uses gcc, which is good but not as good as microsoft's windows compiler.
The author claims some tasks are not hard disk intensive - which I find really strange. Of all tasks that one might do, virus scanning, compressing files, and possibly others mentioned are some of the more hard disk intensive tasks one might perform. Most software like this is written to read a chunk of data, process it, read some more etc. in a linear fashion, so hard disk speeds play a big part here since although it doesn't read much data, it reads a LOT of times and doesn't do the cpu-intensive parts until its finished reading each time.
Would I think different if Linux was faster in every test? Actually I dont think there is any fair way to compare two different OS's. You can do subjective tests but its near impossible to develop the same application to run natively on each OS using native GUI code etc. In nearly all cases, an app is developed for one OS and then ported to another, often adding another layer in order to port it. This is the case with the GIMP (windows version) - on linux it runs on GTK, but on windows it runs on GTK which also runs on win32.
So although many apps LOOK the same on both OS's and sometimes may even look like native apps, the truth is that its impossible to compare the two. One will always be faster and the OS may have nothing to do with that.
I think the most telling part is that even though Linux was slower in most tests, it was quicker in the multi-tasking test, which matches my own subjective experience using windows XP compared to Linux. Different apps, different uses, but Linux just feels more responsive. You cant measure that though
Interesting article, but what's the point in comparing a recent kernel (Linux) with a seven year old kernel (XP)? Wouldn't a better test pit Linux against Vista? Or against Windows Server 2008?
Honestly, Windows 2008 can be tuned easily for workstation service (that's what I'm running on the machine I'm posting this comment from) and from my experience, it uses less memory than Vista and is more responsive. Even under extremely heavy loads, this system never becomes non-responsive nor does the mouse or audio ever skip.


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Eric Abensur is the CEO at Venda, the world's largest on-demand convergent commerce provider. Venda works with a number of high profile fashion retailers such as Urban Outfitters, Laura Ashley, Clothing at Tesco and Wonderbra, delivering reliable and scalable mobile, social and ecommerce platforms and processing over $1Bn in transactions annually.
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Road Trip – THE MAD GREEK
Heading to SoCal for a weekend in LaLa Land is pretty much a tradition in the ELV household. It's fun to escape either the heat or cold of Vegas for more moderate climes, get a nice dose of real freeway congestion, and enjoy some pretty tasty eats in a culture that values something other that over-sized, celebrity-chef food factories. And since, as you know, ELV seeks nothing but the best when it comes to shoving things in his piehole, he and his staff always make their first stop at The Mad Greek in Baker.
Approaching TMG on that long exit ramp off I-15 an hour or so outside of Vegas, ELV is always left to wonder: The Greeks gave the world: art, sculpture, engineering, mathematics, birth control (in the form of pederasty), politics, literature, and philosophy…and now have only this:
Where Greek civilization went off the rails is anyone's guess. These days though, except for hackneyed food and "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," Greek-American culture is non-existent, and other than "cheeseborger, cheeseborger…," there is nothing in the popular consciousness that defines it.
So forgotten is it, that this looks like the height of sophistication by comparison.
ELV (born Yanni Antonis Cutsumpas), mourns this sorry state of affairs, but tries to hoist the flag when he can, and do honor to the cuisine of his ancestors by eating it whenever possible.
And mostly, it's just awful. Banal, boring and repetitive, the "cuisine" of Greece in America is so dumbed down that you could close your eyes and eat in a hundred different Greek restaurants and not find one, single, different dish or seasoning in any of them. In this regard, it shares much in common with Indian food in the United States.
But if you're gonna take the plunge into this world of mediocrity, TMG is as good a place as any to grab a bite. Some things on the menu, like the pastries and shawarma, are actually worth pulling off the expressway for. Others, like the gyros (YEE-rohs), should keep you driving.
Like all "gyro" meat out west, TMG doesn't shave layers of beef and lamb onto its pita bread, but rather that extruded, compacted, vaguely meat-like crud that most "gyro" restaurants churn out the way Arby's does its fake roast beef sandwiches. Doner kebab-like, thinly-sliced, real meat is like a holy grail to true lovers of this sandwich, and the closest you can come to it here is a shawarma sandwich that contains (and tastes of) real chunks of beef and lamb. Combined with a decent tzaziki sauce, some surprisingly good rice, and one of their signature, real milk milk shakes, and you have enough protein to last you at least until you get to closer to the coast. And the Greek pastries, despite an unholy yellow glow emanating from the baklava, are still fairly good and fresh representatives of these (generally too-sweet) standards.
While The Mad Greek does nothing to dispel the low-brow stereotypes for which Greek food is known, neither will it overly dent your wallet or disappoint. For that, and the fact that it's the only non-chain food outlet at this way station (other than the Alien Beef Jerky Store), is something for which travelers should be grateful.
Lunch or dinner for two will run around $30 — more if you're real hungry. There's also a burger and Mexican menu, but anyone who orders anything but Greek food here oughta have their head examined.
72112 Baker Blvd. (No joke, they call it a "boulevard" in this one-horse town.)
Baker, CA 92309
13 Responses to Road Trip – THE MAD GREEK
Ok first of all you actually used the words "doner kebabs" how do you know about that?
Secondly, is there any place in town that serves gyros made with layers of meat vs the meat sausage thing that I keep finding? Please let me know I am craving a 'doner kebab' so bad!!!
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I Love TMG!! Everytime I head west I make a pit stop in Baker. (I also enjoy the Sage Honey from the little alien shop next door.)
I did happen to find a place in town that (if memory serves correctly) has a real doner kebab. It's not a greek place, more middle eastern style, but the food is solid. Over on Fremont, just past the "Experience" going towards the El Co, on the right you'll find Kabob Korner. It's worth a try.
The only acceptable gyro I've ever had was in Paris and prepared by a member of the Arab speaking world at that. It was finely shaved with the delicious crispy bits and topped with a mountain of liberally salted french fries.
ah.. the best donner kabab ever. Has to be in Hammersmith London round the corner from the (then) Palais the nite Eric Clapton played ..'83 if memory serves.
Oh ELV sooooo funny :). Thanks for the comment re: Kabob Korner.. I, at leastl, am going to try it for myself.
The Mad Greek is an institution….I love the food…and the place is just packed day and night…..the question is why hasnt he moved to vegas…..its a sure fit….hmmm….keep it going studd….jj
Joel- He has moved to Vegas. There is an outpost at the corner of the Blvd and Convention Center, I ask and they are the same owners.
Hey Dean,
Welcome to the party. Read the #3 comment.
jason or Dean,
Where exactly is the Mad Greek and when did it open? Is it right along the Strip or on the Convention Center Dr. side? Or somewhere hidden in that plaza with all the other stores? I'm trying to visualize its location, because it'll be until May when I can find out for myself. And you're not talking the Greek Isles Hotel, that's across the street from that Ethiopian restaurant, are you? And please pardon my pickiness. Thank you.
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A Comprehensive Guide on Vintage Wedding Rentals
Everyone agrees that weddings are special. They allow you to celebrate the coming together of two individuals that love each other and decide to dedicate their lives to each other. They shows us what it is like to fully commit to someone else. This is why it's crucial that you take all measures necessary to ensure your wedding is unforgettable. When planning a vintage wedding, you will need to be keen in the preparations, to make it a success.
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They know you can't get people to stop smoking, so they develop a system of informants. That's the whole idea of second-hand smoke, you know. Make second-hand smoke dangerous and turn everybody against smokers. Then they say you can't even smoke in a bar - a bar! - because bartenders have a right to a smoke-free "workspace." Ah, bartenders, those health nuts.
Smoking is, as far as I am concerned, the entire point of being an adult. Many people find smoking objectionable. I myself find many - even more - things objectionable. I do not like aftershave lotion, adults who roller-skate, children who speak French, or anyone who is unduly tan. I do not, however, go around enacting legislation and putting up signs.
Smoking is, if not my life, then at least my hobby. I love to smoke. Smoking is fun. Smoking is cool. Smoking is, as far as I am concerned, the entire point of being an adult. It makes growing up genuinely worthwhile. I am quite well aware of the hazards of smoking. Smoking is not a healthful pastime, it is true. Smoking is indeed no bracing dip in the ocean, no strenuous series of calisthenics, no two laps around the reservoir. On the other hand, smoking has to its advantage the fact that is a quiet pursuit. Smoking is, in effect a dignified sport.
You know, almost everyone is an irritant to me. I think people have forgotten what the word 'public' means. 'Public' means you're going to be irritated. It's a natural consequence of leaving one's home. You go outside, and there are people who are irritating. I'll be standing on the sidewalk, and someone berates me for smoking. I look at the person and think, but what about your shoes? How can you wear shoes like that and have the confidence to accost someone like me?
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Five rings and one cuff make up the six piece collection featuring the brand's signature quilted motif which has been synonymous with Chanel since 1920. I am personally craving this 18-karat white gold ring with the scalloped edges. Such a simple and elegant statement piece perfect for wearing (and loving) everyday.
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When a man undertakes to create something, he establishes a new heaven, as it were, and from it the work that he desires to create flows into him... For such is the immensity of man that he is greater than heaven and earth.
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For one country is different from another; its earth is different, as are its stones, wines, bread, meat, and everything that grows and thrives in a specific region.
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Sparky: The Life and Art of Charles Schulz Discussion and Signing at Cartoon Ary Museum
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The Cartoon Art Museum welcomes Beverly Gherman as she discusses and signs copies of her new book Sparky: The Life and Art of Charles Schulz. Her all-ages biography presents an insightful look into the life and career of one of the most beloved cartoonists of all time. The museum bookstore will host Gherman from 1:00-3:00pm on Saturday, October 9, 2010.
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Beverly Gherman has written biographies about authors, dancers, presidents, scientists and, of course, artists. Her engaging child-accessible style has won her many fans and many awards, including a California Library Beatty Award, a Booklist Editor's Choice, an SCBWI Golden Kite Honor, a Smithsonian Notable Book, and an Oppenheim Toy Portfolio Gold Award. Ms. Gherman lives in San Francisco.
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