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LIVINGSTON – Often following treatment for cancer, patients find that they need support that is different from their needs while in active treatment. To offer assistance, The Saint Barnabas Cancer Program Department of Psychosocial Support Services will present a free six-part Cancer Survivorship Lecture Series entitled "Project H.O.P.E. (Helping Our Patients Excel)."
"Many individuals find that additional information and support is helpful as treatment is ending", explains Angela McCabe, LCSW, OSW-C, Director of Psychosocial Support Services and Community Outreach at Saint Barnabas. "This program was created to address the wide variety of medical and emotional concerns patients might have following treatment."
Each of the following programs will be held from 6:30 to 8 p.m. at the Leon & Toby Cooperman Jewish Community Center (JCC) MetroWest, 760 Northfield Avenue, West Orange. Participants should park in the garage. Coffee and tea will be provided.
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Tamar Braxton welcomes new baby!
Tamar & Vince stars Tamar Braxton and Vincent Herbert welcome their first child, a baby boy, to their family.
Tamar Braxton and her husband, Vincent Herbert, are proud parents of a brand-new baby boy. The "Love and War" singer made the announcement on Twitter on Thursday, June 6, by posting a picture of three blue teddy bears surrounded by sunflowers and balloons. With the pic, Braxton wrote a simple message, "He's here!"
Sister Toni seemed extremely happy by the news, tweeting, "congratulations to my beautiful baby sister!!! I have a new nephew!!!!!! Hehe!!! I'm soooooooo excited!!!!!"
No other details about the birth have been released yet, including the little boy's name. Braxton first announced that she was expecting during a March 13 appearance on Good Morning America. The couple waited until Braxton was already seven months along before announcing due to insecurities caused by previous infertility issues.
"Vince and I [were] told we were going to have fertility problems — it was a lot of information — so we had to get comfortable with the fact that it happened on its own," Braxton told People at the time. "We decided [not to announce] until we were both really okay with it — that's why we waited."
Braxton told Us Weekly at her May 5 baby shower (held at the Bel-Air hotel) that she felt "blessed" to be having a great pregnancy.
"I have a lot of energy. I'm always upbeat and everyone has to tell me to sit down somewhere," she said. "But I feel amazing!"
Braxton also said that she craved potato chips during her pregnancy and that her famous siblings had been giving her plenty of parenting advice. "I think the one that sticks out the most is be the best mom you can be and always focus on your family first," Braxton recalled.
The proud papa-to-be told Us he was "elated" to be starting a family with Braxton. "I'm looking forward to just love her more and being a great father to her child," he said.
The new parents, who were married in 2008, currently star in the WE tv show Tamar & Vince, a spin-off of Braxton Family Values. The second season premieres in September.
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The General Committee of ECHA decided to celebrate the 30th birthday of ECHA by collecting the available information and memories of our past 15 International ECHA Conferences. These conferences were always the highlights of ECHA's life, which gave again and again a great impetus for research, its applications and cooperation both in gifted education and talent support. The Committee asked Ragnild Zonneveld to mobilize the collective memory of ECHA on its conferences. Please find an Introduction and the history of all 15 past International ECHA Conferences here. We wish a great next 30 years to ECHA in cooperation and enrichment!
Gifted and talented students participating in the First European Youth Summit 2016, which was held in Vienna (Austria) between 29 February and 5 March 2016, summarized their needs in education and life. The document, having the title "Charter on the rights of gifted students" can be downloaded from here Youth Platform Charter. The successful Summit took place in parallel with the 15th International Conference of ECHA. Participating students continued the discussion on the document with the supervision of Monica Parodi, Ph.D., specialist in political legislation and Anna Maria Roncoroni, Ph.D., member of the General Committee of ECHA. The document (which was modified several times during the discussions of the students) is intending to call the attention and action of all parties involved in bettering the life of gifted and talented students, be them politicians, teachers at any level of the education system, potential mentors, tutors, parents and all members of the societies in Europe and other continents. The document wants to contribute to the process of making these societies more and more supportive for the help of gifted and talented as their key resource and – in fact – as their life insurance to solve the unprecedented challenges mankind faces in the 21st century. In the meantime we had a successful 2nd European Youth Summit in Budapest earlier this year. The next 3 Summits will take place during the 2018 and 2020 International ECHA Conferences in Dublin and Porto, respectively, as well as during the 2019 Thematic ECHA Conference in Dubrovnik. The Youth Platform of the European Talent Support Network started several other projects which you may follow here: https://www.facebook.com/ypetsn/.
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Foley Personal Injury Lawyer
Whit Thomas has been providing skilled representation to clients in a variety of legal matters since 1980. He represents clients in the city of Foley, all of Baldwin County, and throughout South Alabama. As an experienced Foley personal injury attorney, Mr. Thomas knows how to improve your chances to maximize your recovery and be fairly compensated for your injuries. He can explore the details of your situation and build a strong case, advocating on your behalf throughout settlement negotiations and at trial.Areas of Practice
Your case, whether big or small, is of utmost importance to us. We take great pride in getting to know each of our clients. Our clients are our top priority. We work closely with our clients and their doctors to stay informed of the extent of your injuries, diagnosis, and treatment. We understand that the aftermath of an accident can be an emotionally, physically, and financially difficult time, and we want to help. Our areas of practice include:
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"Video games have always had strong, leading characters that we love. They've always had enemies we love to hate, too. However, some games simply offer up enemies that do nothing but drive you absolutely crazy. These enemies are purely annoying and make you want to just throw your controller across the room. We'll never be able to get rid of these guys from our hobby and it seems like developers love to create new and exciting ways to send us over the edge." - David Wales
Definitely agree with Other players on GTA: Online. The fact that you literally cannot trust one single f*cker not to blow your car up really irritates Me. Even when you are literally doing nothing, just sitting, chilling in your sweet ride, listening to some beats, some 13 year-old chucks a sticky bomb at You.
It's frustratingly pointless.
Bitching about Pokemon Trainers in a Pokemon game? I know they are used to playing games where you can just walk to the end with nothing to do but we need those trainers to train our damn Pokemon. Stick to Flappy Bird if Pokemon is too deep for you.
The most annoying enemies in my opinion are the ghosts from Ghosts n' Goblins. They can spawn anywhere, even on top of you, and can kill you at the worst times. They also make a really annoying sound, particularly in the NES version.
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Melbourne Cup Day 2017
The Surf Club Mooloolaba
Tuesday, 7 November 2017 from 11:00 am to 5:00 pm (AEDT)
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Melbourne Cup Day at The Surf Club Mooloolaba
Melbourne Cup Buffet Luncheon - 11:00am Start, buffet open at 11.30am
Join us for all the fun and atmosphere of The Race That Stops The Nation at The Surf Club Mooloolaba!
We will be serving a delicious buffet lunch featuring prawns, oysters and smoked salmon as well as a chicken curry, stir fry vegetables and a vast array of sides. Also available is a carvery of ham and beef and an array of salads. Enjoy a glass of champagne on arrival and cheese and fruit platters for dessert.
While you are wining, dining and waiting for the race to start you can join in our sweepstakes or purchase a raffle ticket for your chance to win a fantastic prize. All money raised from the raffle goes to our Surf Life Savers, keeping our beach safe.
We will be featuring live music from 12pm and 'Dawn Waterhouse' will be returning as our roving MC! Enjoy the fun of a Magician visiting your table throughout the function as well.
Wear your finest frock and biggest hat and enter our Fashions on the Sand competitons. We are offering prizes for Best Hat, Best Dressed Lady, Best Dressed Gentleman and Best Dressed Couple.
Melbourne Cup at The Surf Club Mooloolaba is a day not to be missed! Book your tickets now!
*If you are purchasing a ticket for our Seafood Luncheon and are sitting with a group, please nominate a name for your table to be under in the ticket decription* Tables may be shared
Cocktail Party - 11:00am Start, 5pm finish
Our breath-taking Function Room on the top floor of The Surf Club will play host to our Melbourne Cup Cocktail Party! Canapes and an arrival Sparkling are included along with Live Music, Sweepstakes, Raffles and Fashions on the Sands.
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Yum! What can be better than a hot sticky bun for breakfast or a late night snack? Pop one into the microwave for a few seconds to make them taste fresh from the oven.
Wow!!! This is a great recipe! The dough is so easy to work with - I didn't change a thing. It's basically a cinnamon roll if you don't add the nuts/raisns/melted butter& brown sugar in the bottom of the pan. If you do, then it's a sticky bun. I doubled the mixture for the inside and I doubled the "sticky bun" bottom of the pan mixture. The rising part takes about 3-4 hours, so cover these with a dish cloth and be patient. While these were baking in the oven I made an icing as if these need any more sweetness, but I just couldn't resist because I was sending these to work with my husband : 3 oz. cream cheese softened, 1 Tbsp butter softened or butter flavored shortening, 1 & 1/2 cups confectioners' sugar, 1/2 tsp. vanilla, 2 Tbsp. milk. Add all the ingredients together and add the milk gradually untill you get the desired consistency. Spread the icing over the sticky buns or cinnamons rolls while they are still warm. - 09 Dec 2009 (Review from Allrecipes US | Canada)
I have made these 3 times within 1 week! They are so good! The dough is easy to work with and makes for a very tender roll...only change I made is extra butter and brown sugar to make more gooey stuff. - 17 Oct 2008 (Review from Allrecipes US | Canada)
I'm going to try these, however, I noticed that everybody is waiting for hours to rise. As a pastry chef, use your oven as a proofing oven. Turn it on, knob or setting at 350, for two minutes, just to get the oven warm. Then turn it off. Rise your rolls in the oven. You'll find that your rolls will rise in about 20 - 30 minutes. I'll review the recipe later when I try it. Enjoy! - 10 Dec 2012 (Review from Allrecipes US | Canada)


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'Nomad' Planets Could Outnumber Stars 100,000 to 1
Could the number of wandering planets in our galaxy – planets not orbiting a sun — be more than the amount of stars in the Milky Way? Free-floating planets have been predicted to exist for quite some time and just last year, in May 2011, several orphan worlds were finally detected. But now, the latest research concludes there could be 100,000 times more free-floating planets in the Milky Way than stars. Even though the author of the study, Louis Strigari from the Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology (KIPAC), called the amount "an astronomical number," he said the math is sound.
"Even though this is a large number, it is actually consistent with the amount of mass and heavy elements in our galaxy," Strigari told Universe Today. "So even though it sounds like a big number, it puts into perspective that there could be a lot more planets and other 'junk' out in our galaxy than we know of at this stage."
And by the way, these latest findings certainly do not lend any credence to the theory of a wandering planet named Nibiru.
Several studies have suggested that our galaxy could perhaps be swarming with billions of these wandering "nomad" planets, and the research that actually found a dozen or so of these objects in 2011 used microlensing to identify Jupiter-sized orphan worlds between 10,000 and 20,000 light-years away. That research concluded that based on the number of planets identified and the area studied, they estimated that there could literally be hundreds of billions of these lone planets roaming our galaxy….literally twice as many planets as there are stars.
But the new study from Kavli estimates that lost, homeless worlds may be up to 50,000 times more common than that.
Using mathematical extrapolations and relying on theoretical variables, Strigari and his team took into account the known gravitational pull of the Milky Way galaxy, the amount of matter available to make such objects and how that matter might be distributed into objects ranging from the size of Pluto to larger than Jupiter.
"What we did was we put together the observations of what the galaxy is made of, what kind of elements it has, as well as how much mass there could possibly be that has been deduced from the gravitational pull from the stars we observed," Stigari said via phone. "There are a couple of general bounds we used: you can't have more nomads in the galaxy than the matter we observe, as well as you probably can't have more than the amount of so called heavy elements than we observe in the galaxy (anything greater that helium on the periodic table)."
But any study of this type is limited by the lack of understanding of planetary formation.
"We don't at this stage have a good theory that tells us how planets form," Strigari said, "so it is difficult to predict from a straight theoretical model how many of these objects might be wandering around the galaxy."
Strigari said their approach was largely empirical. "We asked how many could there possibly be, consistent with the broad constraints, that gives us a limit to how many these objects could possibly exist."
So, in absence of any theory that really predicts how many of these things should exist, the estimate of 100,000 times the amount of stars in the Milky Way is an upper limit.
"A lot of times in science and astronomy, in order to learn what the galaxy and universe is made of, we first have to ask questions, what is it not made of, and so you start from an upper bound of how many of these planets there could be,"Strigari said. "Maybe when our data gets better we will start reducing this limit and then we can start learning from empirical observations and start having more constrained observations that go into your theoretical models."
In other words, Strigari said, it doesn't mean this is the final answer, but this is the state of our knowledge right now. "It kind of quantifies our ignorance, you could say," he said.
A good count, especially of the smaller objects, will have to wait for the next generation of big survey telescopes, especially the space-based Wide-Field Infrared Survey Telescope and the ground-based Large Synoptic Survey Telescope, both set to begin operation in the early 2020s.
So, where did all these potential free range planets come from? One option is that they formed like stars, directly from the collapse of interstellar gas clouds. According to Strigari some were probably ejected from solar systems. Some research has indicated that ejected planets could be rather common, as planets tend to migrate over time towards the star, and as they plow through the material left over from the solar system's formation, any other planet between them and their star will be affected. Phil Plait explained it as, "some will shift orbit, dropping toward the star themselves, others will get flung into wide orbits, and others still will be tossed out of the system entirely."
Don't worry – our own solar system is stable now, but it could have happened in the past, and some research has suggested we originally started out with more planets in our solar system, but some may have been ejected.
Of course, when discussing planets, the first thing to pop into many people's minds is if a wandering planet could be habitable.
"If any of these nomad planets are big enough to have a thick atmosphere, they could have trapped enough heat for bacterial life to exist," Strigari said. Although nomad planets don't bask in the warmth of a star, they may generate heat through internal radioactive decay and tectonic activity.
As far as a Nibiru-type wandering world in our solar system right now the answer is no. There is no evidence or scientific basis whatsoever for such a planet. If it was out there and heading towards Earth for a December 21, 2012 meetup, we would have seen it or its effects by now.
Sources: Stanford University, conversation with Louis Strigari
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I have my doubts. If there are 100,000 more rogue planets than stars, then the nearest rogue planet ought to be closer than the nearest star by a factor of (100000)^(1/3). That's about a tenth of a light year, or a little over 6,000 AU. And that seems awfully close to me.
How could we possibly detect a rogue comet?
Rogue comets should enter the inner solar system every now and then. It would just like a regular comet but moving on a hyperbolic trajectory indicating that it came from outside the Solar System. The fact that we've never seen one yet puts an upper limit on how common they are.
Not sure if it means anything that we haven't seen any rogue comets yet. Galactical orbits in the vicinity of our solarsystem might be stable … unless something gravitationaly changes … in which case rogue comets might turn from very rarely seen to very common.
At least, if I imagine a circle of comets (van Oort cloud) and I change the the gravitational center towards this circle, it just becomes and elipse and finaly a hyperbole. (Unless you have 2 gravitational centers)
Also remember that the difference between a hyperbolic trajectory and an eliptical trajectory with a high elipsidity can be infinitessimally small, but with large differences in effect.
i.e. if a comet has an elipsidity of 0.999999 it would return unless otherwise affected, if it has 1.000001 it wont, again unless otherwise affected. And it would be almost impossible to determine the elipsidity with that accuracy during a single approach.
But i also realise this is likely not the case you are refering to. One day in the future a comet should approach with a significantly e > 1.0 elipsidity.
If you read the preprint you would see that Strigari et al have compared their results against the limits on interstellar comet frequency.
Ouch! I should have done that too. Now I have to see how they did it.
[But I learned some, so it was worthwhile.]
Oh, it was _that_ paper. Haven't read it yet, but p2:
"Extrapolation down to below Earth mass scales, mmin = 10?6M?, yields
? 10, and further extrapolation down to mmin = 10?8M? yields ? 60. Intriguingly for a continuous power law extrapolation down to ? 10?15M?, the number of nomads per star approaches the bound on the abundance of interstellar comets".
So they are not only safe for now, they are exactly compatible.
I still think that is an overestimate of the real population at those sizes, but that isn't what they are trying to do here.
Hmm, does that mean Oort cloud migrants are more stressing observations than the nomad population?
Good idea! That seems to be the more stringent limit.
But it seems a lot fuzzier to make an estimate from that. Strigari put brown dwarf analogues, collapse objects, in there (which at the moment doesn't seem to be a viable pathway for smaller planets in protoplanetary disks, IIRC). But I doubt you form comets out of that.
So perhaps comets are more constrained to the number of stars than Strigari's objects. And then you have to consider how the evaporative cooling of initially hot protoplanetary disks set up the Oort cloud. I didn't know this, but estimates say most initial 'evaporites' are destroyed by collisions on their way out. After that, an amazing ~ 90 % of comets could be exchanged between stars in clusters. (That was ~ 10 % last time I checked, IIRC.)
Still a lot of comets. If the typical Oort cloud contains ~ 5 Earth masses of comets (and according to yesterday's news we can now bound our protoplanetary system size to at most 80 au against an average ~ 60 au) or ~ 3*10^25 kg and the typical comet is ~ 1 km in diameter or ~ 3*10^14 kg @ ~ 0.6 kg/dm^3 density, we have ~ 10^9 of them exchanged for every Oort cloud.
They would outnumber the planet limit by ~ 10^4, or compared to your distance estimate we would have one hyperbolic trajectory comet for every 5*10^-2 ly or ~ 300 au. If we look from a cometary (roughly the stellar neighborhood) rest frame, the solar system travels ~ 20 km/s or ~ 4 au/year (sez Google).
We would see migrant comets at a rate of ~ 0.01/year.
At a frequency of ~ 800 individual comets over 300 years, we observe comets at a rate of ~ 3/year.
For every migrant, which we would see once every century at most, we would see ~ 300 "own" comets.
If we never have seen a hyperbolic trajectory comet for ~ 300 years of continued observation, it seems some of those numbers would have to give a bit soon. (Someone would have to do a proper statistical test for significance.)
Yes, what I can see your idea is more stringent. You should maybe try to publish that. But the new exoplanet limit seems fairly safe for now, as you can squeeze it in by polishing the fuzzy numbers.
Nice quickie analysis Torbjorn! Of course I do wonder what the probability of interstellar comet encounter limit is and just how close the impact parameter has to be for the comet to be sufficiently accurately observed. With a hyperbolic velocity of 20 km/s that means there's not much gravitational focussing of the comets outside Jupiter's orbit. If we assume a "capture zone" around the Sun of 3 AU, then the Sun sweeps through about pi*3^2*4.5 AU^3/year = 127 AU^3/year. There's 253 trillion cubic AU in a cubic light year, which means 6.6 billion comets could be stashed in it and we'd have even odds of seeing 1 in 300 years of observing. As there's 1 star per 200 cubic light years, then free comets could out-number stars 100 billion to 1 and we'd be none the wiser.
Seems my limits are even more stringent than this estimate from 2004…
Given the amount of sky covered by Spacewatch observations, and the detection efficiency for objects as a function of their rates of motion and apparent magnitude, we determined the 97% upper confidence limit on the number of ISOs as a function of the slope parameter ? . We have parameterized the number density of ISOs as ? =? o 10alpha(H-Ho), where H is the absolute magnitude of an object, ? is the slope of the number density as a function of H, and ? o is the space density at Ho. We use Ho=19.1 which corresponds to an ˜1 km diameter object with a typical cometary albedo of p=0.04.
At ? = 0.5, corresponding roughly to the expected slope for accreting planetesimals, the 97% upper C.L. on the number density of ISOs is ˜ 1014 pc-3 or ˜ 10-2 AU-3. Spacewatch is supported by grants from NASA's Near-Earth Object Observation and Planetary Astronomy Programs, the U.S. Air Force Office of Scientific Research, the Paul G. Allen Charitable Foundation, and the Brinson Foundation. B. Meinke's research was supported by the NSF REU Program at the IfA, summer 2004.
Another estimate, with a quite different outcome, suggests significantly lower numbers of interstellar comets is this one by Jura…
Title: An Upper Bound to the Space Density of Interstellar Comets
Authors: Jura, M.
Publication: The Astronomical Journal, Volume 141, Issue 5, article id. 155 (2011).
Two well-studied white dwarfs with helium-dominated atmospheres (DBs) each possess less hydrogen than carried by a single average-mass comet. Plausibly, the wind rates from these stars are low enough that most accreted hydrogen remains with the star. If so, and presuming their nominal effective temperatures, then these DBs have faced minimal impact by interstellar comets during their 50 Myr cooling age; interstellar iceballs with radii between 10 m and 2 km contain less than 1% of all interstellar oxygen. This analysis suggests that most stars do not produce comets at the rate predicted by "optimistic" scenarios for the formation of the Oort Cloud.
After that first, long comment I realize a curious question is, why haven't our star captured migrant planets? (Or have we, maybe some moons can be explained that way?)
What is the capture probability?
Isn't it nice that such limits make sense now? I wonder if people bothered with them before there were known to be exoplanets at all.
The analogous situation now is of course limits on how many biospheres there are. Potentially at least as many as those wanderers, for every Neptune gas giant we can have a few Europa ice moons. But see above.
Phew, glad to see a sensible debate on here, I expected to find the Niburu contingent.
You mean you don't believe someone (Nancy Lieder) who believes she was contacted by aliens about a rogue planet over astronomers? Shocking.
Ah now that you bring that up, Niburu and Dollyworld can be shown to have caused the mess we got here,,,,,,,just saying.
Did anyone else here wonder what bearing all this might have on supposed dark matter estimates?
A while back there was this about red dwarfs being far more abundant in galaxies outside our own and therefore possibly changing dramatically our understanding of cosmic galactic evolution:
Neither this article nor the UT one about the red dwarfs makes mention of the possible implications that perhaps we have an 'aaah ha!' moment where we found more of the missing matter.. There have been quite a few of these type of discoveries over the years…
Here's a few more..
I realise there is still the question of the halos but it does seem we seem to be discovering a heck of a lot of unaccounted for matter within our own and other galaxies recently…
Is it just me or are we possibly staring at the 'dark' elephant in the room?
my thoughts exactly. i wonder if they used the dark matter mass estimate to extrapolate the number. as in: the only reason it's dark is that we can't see it yet. below current instrumentation's detection thresholds.
sub stellar WIMPS?
I was going to write about just this last night, but decided to head to bed instead. There are two things to consider. At a ratio of 100,000:1 rogue planets to stars this would almost double the amount of ordinary matter in the galaxy. By extension this would carry over to the entire universe. This also changes our physics of nucleosynthesis, for this would significantly increase the amount of atomic elements with atomic number n > 2.
Hi LC;
I'm not sure if you've heard of Andreas Tziolas. He's involved with Project Icarus. He seems to think that the Fresnel Lens and solar sail system is not an appropriate solution for an interstellar probe. If you have time could you weigh in here?
Apologies, I tried to find an email address for Lawrence B. Crowell. but was a little unsuccessful.
This is a little off topic (will remove this comment later)
I'm not an expert on this, but I don't think it's an out-of-nowhere matter. It's an expected or missing matter. So, it doesn't have to be like that that there is suddenly twice as much matter.
That would make it 18% of dark matter and 8% of ordinary matter at best. I don't think it's about elephants. 😀
The amount of matter in stars is about a factor of 7 times *less* than there is in gas (and most of this gas is between galaxies not inside them.) So even if they doubled the amount of matter we think resides in stars and planets, they've only incrementally changed the balance within normal matter between gas and stars. Dark matter out -weighs normal matter by a factor of 5 (a result from WMAP – an experiment that measures the cosmic microwave background, also consistent with deuterium constraints on the production of elements during primordial nucleosynthesis), and dark matter outweighs the stars by a factor of 35 or so. So no, even if there are this many (and remember that's an outside upper limit estimate), these planets cannot be the culprit for that elusive dark matter. They're dark enough, for sure, but there is too few of them.
This might depend upon the average mass of these rogue planets. If most of these are gas giants this could increase this mass portion considerably. I do agree that even if that were the case the amount of ordinary matter in the universe would probably increase by a fraction of a percent less than 1%.
Thank you Megan – Great response and very good information which really answered some questions I had in my mind.
Subject: [universetoday] Re: 'Nomad' Planets Could Outnumber Stars 100,000 to 1
I'm confused. How is it that we can detect rogue planets 10 – 20k light years away, when we have trouble detecting planets only a few 10's/100's of light years away around neighbouring stars? I would imagine that these planets are extremely faint and space is really, really, really big, so how do we know where to find them? Is microlensing that good?
Is it dozen of Jupiters too many and too small? I don't think so. Then, you can use statistics to extrapolate.
Kepler doesn't have a trouble detecting planets several 1000 ly away, there are lots of candidates, it's just a problem to confirm them, it takes a time and also available telescope time.
Ok, but Kepler has the advantage of knowing where the planets are – it just gets pointed at the known stars in the region. Furthermore, Kepler doesn't actually see the planets, it just looks at the effects of the planets on the stars, as does every other planet finding technique (i.e. looking for the wobble or the dimming of the star). Rogue planets aren't orbiting stars. How do the astronomers find rogue planets when they are incredibly faint and so far away? How do they know where to look? This article and the previous one about finding the rogue planets doesn't have that info. I'm just curious, I'm not questioning whether they found them.
There were articles about microlensing on UT. They use foreground and background star. I think Ivanman even posted a nice graphic description, but that was long time ago. Lately, I remember something about around 3000 cases where both stars are in line from our point of view and only around 400 microlensing effects were usable. I hope I don't mix it with something else. :d
Kepler's field of observation is the constellations Cygnus, Lyra and Draco..
As constellations are generally asterisms which are groupings of stars at disperate and varying distances, I will provide the estimates of the brightest starts in each Constellation (Cygnus, Lyra, Draco, respectively from wikipedia):
~1,340-1,840 ly (Deneb), 25 ly (Vega), 154.3 ly(Gamma Draconis).
The Kepler space observatory uses only a photometer employing the transit method to observe when planets pass in front of their host stars.
It used to be said the transit method was unsuitable for detecting earth size candidates. However, this was only true for ground-based telescopes (not space-based observatories like Kepler).
It really amazes me that the smallest candidate detected by the Cal-Tech team using Kepler to date is the size of Mars!
To date, ground-based observation campaigns have relied on gravitational microlensing to detect earth-mass planets, brown dwarfs and rogue planets.
To my limited understanding the reason that rogue planets have thus far only been detected by earth-based microlensing (as opposed to other detection methods) is that planetary binary lensing in the foreground galactic bulge is necessary to squeeze out the tiny blip in the light curve necessary to detect the rogues. Apparently planetary binaries are quite rare so I deduce extrapolation was used to deduce estimates of rogue population based on our current understanding of stellar and planetary evolution.
-further reading about ground-based micro-lensing detection technique at:
"Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken"……Luke 21:26….could this have a literal meaning?
I seriously doubt it. When in the middle of an earthquake, any "Heavenly" body observable at the time would appear to shake. Remember: The Bible was written by unsophisticated people trying to make sense of the world around them, with the added factor of asserting control over their compatriots.
Who said anything about an earthquake? By the way, the people of the bible were not unsophisticated.
They were unsophisticated compared to the scientific norms of today. Uneducated, nomads with no appreciation of science is a fair definition of "unsophistication" compared to today. There is a difference between sophistication, and having a working knowledge of science. My comment about earthquakes : if you have ever been in the midst of an earthquake, the heavens do seem to move or shake if you happen to have the presence-of-mind to look up. However I think anything I may say will fall on deaf ears. Fundamentalists of any faith tend to ignore facts not in sync with their brand of superstition. Good luck with your faith when your time come to meet the whatever.
For all of our sophistication, we still can't figure out how they built some of their structures. There is nothing in the verse about earthquakes.
You might want to read "Fall in the House of Ussher
How foolish was the archbishop's precise date for creation?…by Stephen Jay Gould
As for the structures of antiquity: fairly basic math and brute strength explains this. You keep referring to bible verses as if the were words from on high. I disagree with this, and repeat my earlier contention that they (Biblical writings) are the product of a people trying to understand their universe just as we are today. That these fables have any relevance today is ludicrous. However I bow to your faith without agreeing with you or it.
ahhh yes, the simpleton view of modern man…they used brute force. It's clear you don't know much about history….you also ignored my suggestion of reading the link I sent you.
Actually I majored in History you sanctimonious twit. Also,I checked out that link. BTW. It was a bunch of blather by pseudo intellectuals, making a common,(or purposeful) mistake on the use of a word with several meanings. Are you really that stupid? Grow up Jr. and get an education.
Your education didn't include the art of manners or how to discuss an issue. You sound more like someone still in jr high. Come back when you've learned some manners.
Your original statements have nothing to do with this story, and all you do is act like some religious nutter hell bent to inflicted and peddle their extremist religious wares.
Pretending to hold some moral high-ground when you say little of any intelligence or importance just makes you an irrelevant twit.
(Just reading your putrid views and bigotry especially against those contracting HIV/ Aids and homosexuality shows your lack of education or decency.)
Why bother with filth like you!
Why would I treat you civilly when you have started this "Flame" Fest? You are a troll of the basest sort: one that uses faith as fact when you know your precepts are not based on fact, but upon superstition and dogma that has been shown to be false at every step in the advance of Human endeavors. You are a sad benighted pitiful excuse for person. Go Away and bother no one again. Or better yet: Seeing that your head is firmly ensconced in your rectum, I suggest that you JUMP very high and hopefully disappear into the singularity of your soul. We will place your picture on a milk carton! (maybe)
Aw please!
Sirach 40:11 "All that is of earth returns to earth, and what is from above returns above."
Contradiction is everywhere, even in the Bible!
So literally, which is it?
Except that the statement appears to hold some truth.
Meaning what exactly?
Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with anything expect for some insane wish to inflict you Biblical claptrap on others. Evolution should have weeded people like you out long ago!
Some people just can't carry on a discussion without attacking the other person.
This is no place for bible talk.
If you want bible talk, then please go to a bible forum.
Some people just can't carry on a discussion because they haven't the intelligence to think before they speak.
Are these planets a viable candidate for the "Dark Matter" that some hypothesize makes up the majority of matter in the universe?
See my response to Wezley Jackson above – short version is that even if there is that many planets, they can't explain the dark matter that holds galaxies and clusters of galaxies together. It might slightly rearrange the balance between gas, stars, and planets, but doesn't change the total amount, which we know from other experiments.
Thanks Megan, I have not the background, or the math to even comprehend these things,except on the awesome scale that I find here some days. I am a historian, not a astrophysicist. However, the Cosmos are a great mystery and a joy for my contemplation. Sites like this one help people like me understand a bit more clearly our place in the Grand scheme. (even though we haven't got it quite figured out yet) My Idea of Heaven would be to venture between the Galaxies and watch the birth and death of stars, and the interactions of all matter. Mystical? You bet!
I wonder if this (how these finding, assuming they are supported by further research) might be a subject for an Astronomy Cast episode? What is the estimated total mass of the rogue planets vs. that estimated for Dark Matter? (that term always conjures up thoughts of thecharacter in the Buzz Lightyear cartoon series 🙂 )
have we ever witnessed one of our own comets go interstellar? i mean have we ever witnessed an encounter with jupiter or saturn where a comet was launched into escape velocity?
So with 100,000 x the number of planets as suns, and 1/100.000 the mass of an average sun for each planet (average being something like Earth) that puts us at the same mass as the stars in the galaxy…which still falls way short of being in the dark matter mass category of 3 x as much as baryonic matter….although it tightens the gap significantly.
What's with the graphic? Is this a new type of exoplanet…blurry?
Purely for entertainment read the two books, "When Worlds Collide" and "After Worlds Collide". These two books tie into this story.
yes indeed,,,, Science Fiction = Science Prophecy. there are other Prophetic stories about lonely planets twirling about the cosmos. Even some instances where they are quite warm enough for life. Need proof,,,,,,,,, see Icon to left.
Is there anyway for them to know if any of these planets are close to us, and how would we know? How close would they have to be for us to detect them?
If it is as large diameter as Jupiter we would easily be able to spot it if it was 100 times further out than Pluto, using something called telescopes, and if it was on a trajectory to the inner solarsystem it would possibly arrive in a few hundred years from when we first detected it.
Again, I simply have to guess what your real question is.
Perhaps you can find a Biblical quote or divine providence that answers your question?
Obviously none of us are capable enough or smart enough to answer you.
I just wonder if this would also explain what happened to Uranus?
It appears as if something scraped the side of the planet.
It was actually me and a bunch of my friends who prayed to The Flying Spaghetti Monster that he would go back in time and make it look that way. And some say prayer doesnt work… *pffft*
Please come back when you can actually answer a question. For being a site on science, the discussion quickly degrades to jr high level.
I would say the same thing to you: Please come back when you actually have a scientific question and a scientific discussion in mind. And not a hidden agenda to sneak in the bible and religion pretending that you have a science question.
If you want to debate religion and science, then go to religious sites.
My second question was completely ignored.
My guess would be that no one cares. Ever thought of that?
My appologies. From your tone in other posts in this forum i assumed that your intent here was not to ask for scientific answers, but only to question the openmindedness of others and insert the biblical explanations into anything that allowed an opportunity. I assumed you had an agenda including trying to promote biblical explanations.
However, you didnt actually ask for an explanation, and your linked image is not accessible for everyone to view, so its not really possible to answer your non-question.
A working link to the picture I mentioned…actually this is a picture of one of the moons of Uranus.
And what is the proposed link between Uranus being tilted 98 degrees (wich i again have to assume being what you are referring to, because again you dont really ask a question), and this article?
Unless you ask specific questions, you cannot get specific answers.
The reason for Uranus's unusual axial tilt is also not known with certainty, but the usual speculation is that during the formation of the Solar System, an Earth sized protoplanet collided with Uranus, causing the skewed orientation.
That is one possibility yes, likely the collision was actually a merger of two bodies who ended up forming the tilted Uranus.
However, that is still merely possibilities, or speculation.
What has this and the 98 degree angle of Uranus to do with Nomad planets?
Maybe you should start by calculating the energy it would require to rotate Uranus.
Second you should give a scientifically explanation how a collision could tilt Uranus like this. How much mass does it lose, how does it's orbit change, what happens to the the object scientifically. How long ago did this happen… (And scientifically means no religious texts or Mayan references or so)
What makes you think that a moon would survive a collision? Maybe you should start giving scientifically calculations how much energy gets involved with such a collision. Just to check if that moon would not get vaporized completely.
Ever heard about Universe Sandbox? Well get that program and create a convincing simulation how such a collision could happen.
You know, you might want to actually pick up a friggen book and learn to READ!!!
"The reason for Uranus's unusual axial tilt is also not known with certainty, but the usual speculation is that during the formation of the Solar System, an Earth sized protoplanet collided with Uranus, causing the skewed orientation."
I want to know what YOU know.
And during the formation of the solar system is about 4.5 billion years ago. No external nomad planet is required.
Good advice, you might want to follow that advice yourself sometime, perhaps read more real sciencebooks.
It is speculation, albeit scientific speculation, but it is not a scientific fact.
This is true. It was formed when the Solar System was formed. The Earth was formed by smaller bodies that were accumulated to form the planet. A collision of a Mars-sized body with the Earth likely formed the Moon. However this happened 4.3 billion years ago, and the planet formation accretion ended after a few million years.
This story is about rouge planets roaming outside our solar system. Due to the vastness of space, the probability of one colliding with one of the planets is next to zero.
If this was your point, then you should have said so in the beginning. (I think you have gone on a internet search to find anything to support your crazy earlier arguments.)
I still think you are being deliberately disingenuous, pretending to avoid direct scrutiny.
Uranus is completely irrelevant to this story, dopey. How can you answer it when the question is silly and meaningless.
Where do you get off here, eh? You come up with some irrelevant biblical quote, acting like some smarty to stir up trouble, then your all miffed because people have rejected you as a complete fool.
If you are searching for religious validation here, you haven't come to a place that will appease you for your own ego.
Really. *pffft* is exactly the response you deserve! Deal with it!
This whole story appears a little bit over-hyped.
The catch is the high number of 100 000 nomads per star.
But if you look carefully this number mostly results from y maximally steep extrapolation to low masses. The high number would be dominated by low end mass objects. The overall mass in such objects woud stay limited.
Overall you can compare to a scenario, that most stars are created with several planets – number largely depending on the lower bound of mass considered.
A large fraction of these gets lost to become free nomads.
Only the high mass end is a downward extrapolation of brown dwarfs. I remember earlier investigations indicating a gap between these populations.
When using the exponential slope alpha =2 leading to the high number 100 00 for extrapolating (dwarf) planetary objects in the solar system, there would be many still to be detected, even considering some loss. Compared to the distribution in the Solar system (which may not be representative) the parameter appears rather high – and anyway it's an upper bound. Already a slightly lower alpha would significantly reduce the number of nomads.
Regarding remarks to nomads hosting bacteria: obviously this kind of consideration is meanwhile obligatory – ok. But the speculations on transport of life in this way are quite far fetched. I neither see a significant probability, that such propagation would work, nor that it would help to explain something. Life would be far less likely to originate on energy starving nomads, than on planets.
Here is a working link to the question I had on Uranus…actually this is one of the moons of Uranus. Could it have been one of these dark planets that hit it?
The southern hemisphere of Mars has numerous impact craters, while the northern hemisphere does not. ….whatever happen to that moon, had happened to Mars at the same time…it might also explain the difference between the light and dark sides of the moon.
What makes you assume it happened at one time, at the same time?
OMG, am I talking to grade schoolers here?
If you are unable to ask a proper question, then it is not possible to answer them. And I have have followup questions to your questions that I need to know in order to properly answer/correct you, can you answer my followups?
Uranus being tilted 98 degrees and Venus rotating backwards. Why couldn't all of these events have happened at the same time….an outside planet passing through. Is this too hard to understand?
If they are unrelated, and there is more indications of that than the contrary, then there is no reason to assume the events are related.
Is it possible that this is completely unrelated events?
Why would an outside planet passing through that hits Uranus even survive the impact and even get a trajectory near Venus?
Even then you claim that an Earth sized planet (probably referring to an Earth mass planet, not the same chemical composition) hits Uranus. How could such a small object reverse the rotation of Venus which has the same mass?
I am interested to see how the orbit of such a Earth mass planet would need to be on order to make it change the rotation of Uranus this way. This type of orbit would not even be in the plane of the planets and thus never make it getting near any other planets.
Because the only theory for Uranus being on it's side…it was hit by something. That could explain the scraps on one of its moons. There could been more then on planet passing trough. It wouldn't have had to his Venus, only pass close to it.
Actually when you see how Uranus is tilted then there is no way that the surviving object or shrapnel would even come near the other solar systems objects. It would have about a 90 degree angle perpetual to the plane of the orbits.
Also coming close to Venus cannot change the orientation. You need a physical collision.
OMG, am I talking to thin air here?
You're not making any sense here!
I agree with magnus.nyborg, what makes you think this happened at the same time?
Also can you give a "scientific" correct orbit that includes the events that happened? And I am not referring to a made up route, I want to see some calculations what speed what position what planet had. How much energy gets gained or lost for every object?
Instead of moving the goalpost, start with something simple. How much energy does it take to rotate Uranus axis? Then we can determine what mechanism could do such a thing.
I asked some simple questions….COULD all of these events have happened at the same time? Has ANYONE ran a model going back in time to track the position of each planet?
It is IMPOSSIBLE to run a simulation back to the beginning of the solar system, simply because anything unknown will affect the simulation.
Where did I say the simulation had to be run back to the beginning of the solar system? I said..run one back to see if there's a point where all the planets and moon, could have been facing the same way…like reconstructing an accident.
The furthest simlations have run with correlating error-analysis is approximately 60 million years back, but the errors/uncertainties increase rapidly.
And the answer to this question is NO.
So you think that "facing the same way" must proof that the events are connected?
First of all, planets moons move. Anything affecting one planet would take time before it could affect another planet. This could be millions of years in between. So facing the same way is baseless.
Second do you have proof that the events have the same time table?
It is your job to provide the reconstruction of the accident. It is your job to show that an object hitting one planet, could actually move in a closer orbit to hit another moon/planet.
It is your job to provide evidence that when a Earth sized object hits Uranus, that it can survive the collision and actually move towards the inner planets and not get ejected outside the solar system.
You should be able to give the incoming collision vector, mass, speeds when the collision happens at Uranus.
I suspect he is going for that an explosive event caused craters etc throughout the solarsystem, but that he fails to realise that even if one big explosive event happened, it would not instantaneously affect all other bodies – perhaps he doesnt even realise the distances involved here (several of his questions indicate this).
Whenever somone starts a question with "Why cant it be this way?" and ask a silly question, you know they havent thought it through properly.
I am also suspecting that his questions are related to PlanetX/Niburu and that he is merely fishing for some confirmations.
John, if you read this – PlanetX is complete bullshit! Everything claimed so far about it is complete bullshit, and even if there would be a big planet somewhere close to the solarsystem, it isnt the claimed PlanetX.
Sadly for him, Nibiru would be 1.8 times the diameter of Jupiter and around 4 AU from the Sun right now. If it is not at 4 AU then it is not Nibiru.
…and it would be brighter than jupiter is now, not only clearly visible with the unaided eye, but one of the brightest objects in the nightsky. Unless ofc it was hiding behind something, playing peek-a-boo… 😛
So you are stating that you have no scientific evidence that those events happened at the same time?
Eh? The entire moon's surface has about 14 days of sunlight and 14 days of darkness each lunar month. 50% of the moon is illuminated at any one time. Almost 100% of the moon sees sunlight once per lunar month
What has impact craters have to do with the position of the sun as observed from the moon? There is no relationship.
What has the distribution of craters on Mars have to do with the craters on the moon? From your quite illogical arguments and inferences here, you really show you don't know what you are saying!
Frankly, your absolute desperation to be heard (when you've already now been dealt out of the game) is filled now with more nonsensical nonsense.
There is no light and dark side of the moon that is fixed. Every area is 14 days lit and 14 days dark.
OMG…you can't even understand a simple question. The moon does NOT rotate…it shows one side to US…WE call the other side..the DARK SIDE.
Since the moon is always showing the same side to the earth, how can it anything but rotate around its axis once every month??
The moon has a month long DAY where half is in darkness, half is in sunshine, and you have now shown your complete ignorance.
Actually, the moon has a near side and a far side.
The rotation of the moon is just the same as the orbital period around the Earth, which has been locked in by the mutual gravitational pull between the Earth and Moon.
Again you haven't ask a question. (where is the question mark, eh?)
You have made a general statement that is really just a supposition, and has many wrong assumptions. Where is the scientific evidence for this?
Seriously. It is all hearsay and is not at all science.
Ohhh the moon does not rotate?
If there is a solar eclipse does or new moon the far side not get lit then?
At least we now know why the coward ran away!
He said; "I'll come back later and see if there's any intelligence on here."
I'd guess he will never come back, then!
also….Uranus being tilted 98 degrees and Venus rotating backwards. Why couldn't all of these events have happened at the same time….an outside planet passing through.
Why would they have happened at one time?
….because it didn't.
Are you Immanuel Velikovsky's love child?
Velikovsky was a Old Testament proponent who thought planetary collisions could explain the Exodus in the Bible.
This now explains your mumbo-jumbo here.
I found one quote that is pertinent here by Leroy Ellenberger, who once said;
"The less one knows about science, the more plausible Velikovsky's scenario appears…."
You have just proved this proposition 110%!
It would be interesting to see, if someone with a computer, could figure out the rotations and the orbits going back in time…to see if there's a point where all of these planets and moons with the damages, were facing the same way, when the damages happened. Like recreating an accident.
Why not arrange for that computer simluation to be done, and get back to us with the results when it is done?
They have. Nothing significant has really happened for billions of years, and certainly nothing in the last 6000 years!
Just an educated guess, but I'd assume you think the Earth was created around 4000BC, like most the right-wing anti-science American Fundamentalist christian lobby.
Frankly, the accident here, is you must have had your common sense beaten out of you as a child. Shame. (San Diego, they say?)
It's clear you haven't EVOLVED enough to answer a simple question.
It's clear you haven't a clue in what you say. Questions? Do you know how it put a question or even comprehend a simply reply?
I.e. "They have. Nothing significant has really happened for billions of years, and certainly nothing in the last 6000 years!"
What makes you assume these are 'dark planets'?
They are planets, if nothing is shining upon them they will be dark – if something IS shining on them, they will reflect some portion of the light and might even look bright.
And what kind of answer are you expecting? Yes – No – Maybe – Possibly – Probably?
a non-thinking reply from you…but that's to be expected.
This question has also been ignored…Is there anyway for them to know if any of these planets are close to us, and how would we know? How close would they have to be for us to detect them?
Who cares?
I answered your question below (as far as I could as it is again not a specific question).
Is that answer satisfactory to you, or do you want to ask a more precise question?
This site appears to be full of jr high schoolers and lower on here. Sad, except for a few post (M_Malenfant and Peristroika, for example) …the rest are just plain ignorant.
Did you even stop to consider that it is you who are the problem here?
Anyway, you post has nothing to do with the article and i am going to ask the moderators to remove it.
Yes, I agree. johnb123 seems to be fascinated with middle school. Read his other posts. He is either a 7th grade student, or a brain dead fundamentalist trapped in the books of the old testament. Why he would wish to troll a site such as this one is beyond me.
I think it's best if most replies from this site go directly into my trash…I'll come back later and see if there's any intelligence on here.
And just how would you recognize it when you find it?
I lolled loudly when you said that one side of the Moon is always in darkness! ANY intelligent person would understand that the Moon rotates around its axis once every month, by necessity, and therefor every part of the moon has an approximate 14 day long DAY and a 14 day long NIGHT (except the poles).
I realise that you simply do not understand why your questions is nonsensical, and why they trigger responses that you do not understand either, but enough is enough. This is not a kindergarten place where you can ask questions that are trivial to answer yourself if you put in atleast some effort.
The thing that really cheese me off here is your obvious contempt for people who dare to stand up to you or don't agree with your quite insane worldview. Sure. You are entitled to your religious beliefs, but you are absolutely not entitled to shove them down everybody's throats!
It is clear you deliberately came here to make comments just to try and validate some wacky personal notions or distorted dogma that supports your apparent twisted religious faith.
What is really funny, is every time someone replies to you, they are either; "trash", "plain ignorant", "full of jr high schoolers" or have a "non-thinking reply." What you really mean is that anyone who doesn't agree with you is just slapped with the hand of denouncement – a trick often used by religious zealots to exert some authority or the wrath of god over their downtrodden subordinates. So instead of honestly facing your own obvious limitations and knowledge, all you can do is brush off those who have pointed out your own obvious failings.
Frankly, you've just been caught with your pants down, sunshine.
so dark matter solved?
I can simplify the question a bit. Judging from what we have observed about exoplanet systems and our own, it is unlikley that more than a few Jupiter masses of planets would be ejected by any planetary system after its formation around a star. The only way to get a large planet to star ratio is if protostellar clouds form planet sized objects more frequently than stars. In other words what is the lower mass/density limit that a protostellar cloud can reach, and how frequently does it get there relative to the stellar mass objects we can see more easily? From observations it would seem that a collapse producing brown a dwarf sized object is fairly common. From theory we know that the fragmentation of a progenitor cloud into various sized stellar embryos is a rather chaotic process highly dependant on local conditions. I would then surmise that there would be a more even distribution of embryo sizes rather than a parabolic curve favoring a predominance smaller sized embryos. With regards to this question infra-red observations are going to be very helpful in establishing the lower size limit and frequency of such embryos, and we just so happen to have such instruments on-line now and in the near future to provide us with helpful data.


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LIC Labor Lyceum - Economics for Working People
Thu Sep 17 2015, 6:00 pm
Please join Michael Merrill, Dean of the Harry Van Arsdale Jr. Center for Labor Studies at Empire State College for a series of discussions on charting a way forward to an economy in which everyone who wants to can have a job at a living wage.
Thursday, September 17
WORK AND WAGES: How We Can Work Less and Make More
What is the relationship between work and wages?
Why do we work so hard and still seem not to have enough?
Is it possible to work less and make more?
The conventional wisdom of economists, which has trickled down to the rest of us, is that "the market" ensures that we are all paid what we are worth.
But rapidly increasing income inequality and the widening gap between wage gains and productivity growth both suggest that the relationship between work and wages is more complicated.
The first session of "Economics for Working People" explores these complications and enables us learn why our value is based on what we are paid, not what we produce.
This program is supported by public funds from the NYC Department of Cultural Affairs and the Queens Borough President's Office, Melinda Katz Queens Borough President.


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How to Make It
Combine spinach, cherry tomatoes, and sliced red onion in a large bowl. Combine vinegar, olive oil, oregano, salt, and pepper. Pour over spinach mixture; toss gently to combine.


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Trump's best speech yet. The Polish people love freedom and seem largely immune to the pc death virus that has infected so much of the West.
Trump's best speech yet. The Polish people love freedom and seem largely immune to the pc death virus that has infected so much of the West.
A nice video of the Battle of Warsaw in 1920 where the Poles scored an upset victory against the invading Soviet Red Army, securing Polish independence and giving the nascent Communist movement its first serious defeat. Poland has helped save Western civilization several times, but on few occasions have the odds been bleaker than a bit over 97 years ago. All the Poles had to rely on was God, themselves and their laughing courage, but they were enough to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Nine Days That Changed the World is a film produced by Citizens United, Newt Gingrich's, former Republican Speaker of the House and Catholic convert, group. That Gingrich produced it will probably reduce the number of people who will see the film, due to the fact that Gingrich is subject to legitimate criticism for his past infidelities to his first two wives, and because he is a devil figure for the Left. That is a shame because this film is a thoughtful look at one of the pivotal events in the last century: the unraveling of the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, which began in Poland and was directly sparked by the visit of John Paul II in 1979 who inspired Lech Walesa and other Poles to found Solidarity and give voice to the Polish cry for freedom that ultimately prevailed.
In his address to the civil authorities in Poland on June 2, 1979, the Pope touched upon the never ending desire of the Poles for their independence:
We Poles feel in a particularly deep way the fact that the raison d'être of the State is the sovereignty of society, of the nation, of the motherland. We have learned this during the whole course of our history, and especially through the hard trials of recent centuries. We can never forget that terrible historical lesson—the loss of the independence of Poland from the end of the eighteenth century until the beginning of the twentieth. This painful and essentially negative experience has become as it were a new forge of Polish patriotism. For us, the word "motherland" has a meaning, both for the mind and for the heart, such as the other nations of Europe and the world appear not to know, especially those nations that have not experienced, as ours has, historical wrongs, injustices and menaces. And thus the last World War and the Occupation, which Poland experienced, were still for our generation such a great shock thirty-five years ago when this war finished on all fronts. At this moment there began the new period of the history of our motherland. We cannot however forget everything that influenced the experiences of the war and of the Occupation. We cannot forget the sacrifice of the lives of so many men and women of Poland. Neither can we forget the heroism of the Polish soldier who fought on all fronts of the world "for our freedom and for yours".
We have respect for and we are grateful for every help that we received from others at that time, while we think with sadness of the disappointments that we were not spared.
The London Daily Telegraph is reporting that Polish President Lech Kaczynski, his wife, the Polish army chief, and most of the Polish political elite and their wives perished in a plane crash over Russia.
"It clipped the tops of the trees, crashed down and broke into pieces," Mr. Sergei Antufiev reported of the Polish plane carrying President Lech Kaczynski how it crashed. "There were no survivors." Polish state news agency PAP reported the same.
In the case of a president's death, the speaker of the lower chamber of parliament, Bronislaw Komorowski, takes over as head of state, Mr Komorowski's assistant Jerzy Smolinski told Reuters.
Poland declared a week of national mourning as shocked citizens flocked to lay flowers and light candles outside the seat of government.
Notable Catholic blogger Damian Thompson, understanding the Polish people's propensity for conspiracy theories, is speculating that many will begin blaming a cabal of Russian agencies for this tragic accident.
Let us keep those that have died and the grieving Polish people in our prayers.
For more breaking news of the tragic death of Polish President Lech Kaczynski click here.
Today is the 70th anniversary of the beginning of World War II as Germany bombarded Westerplatte with canon fire. Eventually Germany made peace with their neighbors by recognizing the role they played in the devastation of Europe. Since then Europe has experienced only one conflict[1] since the end of World War II.
But Russia remains another matter.
Russia continues to be belligerent in their interpretation of the war. Denying much culpability in their conflict with Poland and even insinuating of Polish-German designs on the Soviet Union.
In the days leading up to anniversary, Russian media has aired a string of accusations against Poland, claiming that Warsaw intended to collaborate with Hitler in an invasion of the Soviet Union, and that Jozef Beck, Poland's foreign minister in 1939, was a German agent. Moscow broadcasters have also claimed that there was a "German hand" in the 1940 Katyn massacre of thousands of Polish PoWs, an atrocity generally held to have been the exclusive work of Stalin's secret police.
In fairness, the de facto ruler of Russia, Vladimir Putin, did offer a conciliatory tone relating to Russia's aggression towards Poland:
"Our duty is to remove the burden of distrust and prejudice left from the past in Polish-Russian relations," wrote Mr Putin, who went on to describe the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as "immoral", and also thanked Poland "from the bottom of my heart" for the 600,000 Poles who fought on the Eastern Front under Red Army command.


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Six area teams will compete in the girls basketball state tournament, beginning Tuesday at the Lakeland Center. Edgewater and Dr. Phillips will seek to repeat as state champions.
Here are five things to watch:
Can Dr. Phillips be stopped?
The Panthers (27-3) have won 66 consecutive games against Florida competition and are favored to win their third straight state championship. Coach Anthony Jones thinks Palm Beach Gardens Dwyer will provide a big test in a Class 8A semifinal Friday night.


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Let me be perfectly clear: It isn't any of your damn business what you think I need, what you don't want me to have and what you think is good for me.
I'm a free man who can think for himself. I don't need a bureaucrat to manage my life or legislate my freedoms away under the ruse of security or their twisted theory of an improved quality of life. I don't visit Washington, D.C., because I'm allergic to soulless, terminally disconnected bureaucratic paper-pushing punks on parade.
For one free man to attempt to tell another free man what legal products he should or should not be able to own is the most gross and irresponsible bastardization of freedom I can imagine. But then again, I'm not a helpless, feckless, spineless, bloodsucking sheep waiting for direction.
Newsflash for the anti-freedom idiot brigades: You aren't free if you want to handcuff the freedoms of others. What you are is a mindless sheep, an easily led lemming who can't spell the word freedom much less define it.
What Sen. Feinstein, VP Biden or President Obama want is more control over Americans. These socialists and Marxists don't care about mass murder. What they want is more control, their boots on our necks.


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'India's next top model' has a ring to it right? If rumours on the grapevine are true Bipasha Basu may be making her debut on the small screen as the host of the Indian version of American show America's Next Top Model.
Information going around the industry is that Shah Rukh Khan's production house, Red Chillies is trying to rope in Miss Basu as host. An interesting venture don't you think? But not an original idea. The concept has already been explored by Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Karisma Kapoor, Sridevi and Madhuri Dixit.
When approached for confirmation of the rumours Bipasha responded with a polite "No comments".
Well, that leaves us neither here nor there. Guess we will just have to wait and see the result of this rumour.


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REDWOOD CITY, Calif. (KGO) --Black and Latino youth across the Bay Area are learning about robotics, coding, engineering, leadership and more through the STEM STARS Summer Camp program in Redwood City.
The camp is being held August 3, 2016 through August 10, 2016.
The free summer camp is for boys and girls in the sixth through 12th grades, and is a way for young students to think about and be inspired by careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics, says Founder Kiwoba Allaire.
The summer camp is focusing on offering more in STEM subjects because program officials think it's important to expose young people to those fields at an early age.
The summer camp begins at 12 p.m. every Wednesday, with graduation on August 10 and includes free lunch for the pre-registered students.
The camp will focus on introduction to robotics, Java Script coding and electronics with inspirational leadership presentations from prominent and influential keynote speakers, such as Councilwoman Alicia Aguirre, NASA's Jendai Robison, Maker Faire's Sherry Huss, 49ers Legend Ronnie Lott, Silicon Valley Tech Icon Ken Coleman, and many more.
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What cost the future? Education in the NBN
When Julia Gilliard pushed the button to activate the National Broadband Network in Armidale on Wednesday, the complaints were not long in following. ''There goes $18 billion,'' said shadow treasurer Joe Hockey in Canberra, stating that the government was rolling out a Bentley to every Australian when the nation can only afford a Commodore.
Complaints about the cost of the National Broadband Network, the NBN, are not going to stop any time soon. It's easy to see the expense but assessing the value of the NBN will take far more thought. Supporters of the NBN have been quick to argue that it will strengthen education. Unfortunately, they've been slow to anticipate a damaging counter-argument: namely, that technology does not improve learning.
If you read studies that have tried to assess the effects of digital technology on learning outcomes, you have to conclude that technology does not in itself make a significant difference. No doubt opponents of the NBN will eventually pick up on this research. When they do, it will be important to put it in context.
People with a stake in education need to point out that studies of the impact of technology on education often miss the key point. What these studies end up illustrating is that the benefit you get from using any tool depends on whether you know how to use it properly. These studies aren't in themselves much help when it comes to assessing the intrinsic value of something like the NBN. They don't help us assess its potential, and it's the potential of the NBN that matters.
Let's turn to the potential of the digital technology available in Australian homes right now. Your teenager, for example, probably enjoys access to the web and all the educational benefits associated with it. If, however, they're downloading music and playing Tetris in the corner of the screen while supposedly using the Web for research, the potential of the technology they have is not being realised. It's not the tool that's at fault though, it's how it's being used.
So how does broadband help learning when used wisely? There are five rock-solid benefits.
First, and most obvious, is access to a world of information. We shouldn't take this for granted. My primary school's library in the late '50s was a single, narrow cupboard. In a few months, you could read every book it contained. The first public libraries provided a lifeline for learning for the socially disadvantaged. The internet is filling this critical role today.
Secondly, the internet doesn't just offer raw information, it's also populated with explanations. Thirdly, the internet features recommendation systems that let you follow in other people's footsteps and see what resources they found useful. Fourthly, you can network: you can find other people to learn from, learn with, or help you change the world. Finally, there are powerful tools to help you figure out complex issues tools for visualising data, modelling systems and asking the big 'what if?' questions.
This is a snapshot of the benefits associated with digital technology today. But the NBN is not about the present, it's about the future. Despite the fact that we know technological change is accelerating, it remains perversely difficult to frame a public debate about the future that's not based on the delusion that it'll be just like the present, only more shiny.
Imagine people connecting to the NBN six years from now. What do you picture? Smartphones, laptops and iPads? This time last year almost no-one in Australia had seen an iPad. Six years' ago we had no iPhones or Kindles. We weren't using YouTube, Google Maps, Facebook or Twitter. What potential technologies and developments that we haven't even imagined yet will the NBN enable?
Assessing the future benefits of the NBN is not going to be easy. It has no intrinsic value. It will only help us if we learn how to use it wisely. And Australians will have to. Big challenges are on the way: from climate change, globalising competition, food security, peak oil, obesity, chronic ill health, and drug-resistant superbugs.
There's no doubt the next generation needs to be better educated. After all, they'll have to fix many of the problems we're leaving in the too hard basket. They'll need to be bold in unravelling complexity and quick to innovate. This 'innovation generation' will need a world-class broadband network, not a cut-price lash-up made of fencing wire and wishful thinking. It's up to us to deliver it and let them maximise its potential. The costs of failing them, due to a lack of nerve on our part, are unaffordable.
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So what do you think about Slenderman?
An example of this in Internet cultures, or urban-legend folklore is Slender Man or Slenderman, a fakelore tale created on June 8, 2009 by user Victor Surge on Something Awful, which gained prominence as a frightening malevolent entity, a tall thin man wearing a suit, who lacks a face, "his" head only being blank, white and featureless.
A contest had been launched on Something Awful forums to edit photographs so that they contained "supernatural" entities and then pass them off as legitimate on paranormal forums.
After the initial creation, numerous stories and videos were created by fans of the character. One of them includes the story that another Something Awful user (ce gars) posted in which a (fictional) friend of his from film school – Alex Kralie – had stumbled upon something troubling while shooting his first feature-length project, Marble Hornets, which is actually a short film series that involves alternate reality portrayal of the filmers' experiences with the Slender Man character as if he existed
The contest required participants to turn ordinary photographs into creepy-looking images through digital manipulation and then pass them on as authentic photographs on a number of paranormal forums. Something Awful users soon began sharing their faux-paranormal creations with layered images of ghosts and other anomalies, usually accompanied by a fabricated witness account to make them more convincing. On June 10th, SA user Victor Surge posted two black and white photographs of unnamed children with a short description of "Slender Man" as a mysterious creature who stalked children.
Slender Man
Originally posted by siluriancryptic
Go to Youtube and then write and click the name Slenderman and you will know what I'm talking about.
I think Slenderman , a tall black suited man with tentacles for arms and a faceless small white, bald head, matches the "Windigo" which has tentacles to seize victims in snowstorms-according to North American Native American "Myths" or stories handed down from one generation to the next ,since the first man was formed on thus earth. For Instance the recent massacre and mutilation of Russian hikers -found all drained of blood in a snowstorm in the foothills of the Ural Mountains(see Youtube on ufos) . I think it was the Urals. But anyway, this Slenderman should be catagorized in "Aliens&Ufos" instead of the "Paranormal " section of ATS. The Indians insist it has tentacles and stalks its victims during snowstorms, leaving them in treetops as mummified carcasses all drained of blood. A Russian or Soviet Army Patrol was also massacred by this creature(Windigo) during a snowstorm and the corpses were found drained of blood and badly burned by radiation.Slenderman has been with us for centuries and may be behind vampire legends in Europe(Dracula), and the "Goat Sucker" ( I can,t spell it in Spanish) of Mexico and South America. So, we should put Slenderman among the ufo culprits that mutilate cattle and other animals and as well as humans too.So what do you think about Slenderman?
Originally posted by Druscilla
Here we have yet another fine example of yet another "My inane and completely unoriginal thoughts on poorly researched subject X" topic.
Please think before embarrassing yourself online more so than you already do by mouth breathing through life with wide gawking entirely gullible and clueless ignorant eyes, even if this is an anonymous online forum.
Slenderman is an internet creation made up for the specific purpose hoaxing paranormal internet forums.
Read about this Slenderman toward the bottom of the Wiki article on Fakelore.
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Originally posted by DrNotforhire
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This is how facts get skewed though....People not doing proper research (or reading the bottom of a page)
we can get into a lot of trouble like this
Originally posted by redhorse
Or you could... You know... Lighten up.


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This month I've been shooting the Canik TP9 SA pistol at Eagle Gun Range for an upcoming review. This is a lot of gun for very little cost. Stay tuned for my shooting review in a few days.
Sig Sauer P320 Carry – First Shots
Shot the Sig P320 Carry model today for the first time, for an upcoming review. I'll be shooting it all month to get a thorough impression of this promising gun and seemingly fantastic platform.
Shooting Review: The Kel-Tec KSG
I've been shooting the KSG 12ga shotgun lately and just published my review over at the Eagle Gun Range blog. Hope you enjoy!
A Little Fun With the Kel-Tek KSG
This weekend I spent some quality time and a bunch of shells shooting the Kel-Tek KSG 12 gauge shotgun for an upcoming review. This thing is a blast to shoot (ha) and I'm a big fan of the size of this perfect-home-defense shotgun. Far more maneuverable and easier to wield than my Mossberg 500A, especially in tight quarters.
Here (vid below) you can see how it is much like shooting a small carbine or SBR with regard to maneuverability.
Review later this month on the Eagle Gun Range blog.
12 Gauge Shotgun Comparison
Been shooting the Kel-Tek KSG lately for an upcoming review. Here's how it compares to my "home defense" Mossberg 500A. That's a Sitemark Wolverine red dot optic on the KSG. Diggin' it. KSG review later this month.