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The remains of disappeared civilizations always attract people. Among the monuments of ancient history, along with the ancient pyramids, temples, fortresses and cities there are also the inconceivable stone constructions, called megaliths. Megaliths represent the different systems of constructions made of processed and unprocessed stones, sometimes of tremendous sizes. They are found in the regions where the civilization reclaimed itself long ago, and also in the places, where even yesterday people lived as a "primitive society". The highly possible period of the northern megaliths could be the 7-1 thousand years B.C. As distinct from the upturned ancient cities, the discoveries of which have enriched our ideas of our ancestors' lives, megaliths continue to keep their secrets.
All the attempts to relate megalithic sites to any given archaeological culture, and even the discoveries that show us the megalith-builders' knowledge of astronomy, mathematics and physics, do not give a chance to reveal the main secrets of the megaliths. Why do these constructions scattered around the world often resemble each other? What tribes made them and for what purposes?
May they be the traces of legendary Hyperborea, hypothetic ancient continent situated in the north of the Earth, in the North Pole region and inhabited by once powerful civilization? Hyperborea is something that is situated in the far north, "behind the northern Boreas wind", in Arctic. Still the existence of Hyperborea had no proof apart from ancient Greek legends and pictures of that piece of land on the old engravings, for instance the Gerardus Mercator's map, published by his son Rudolf in 1595. On this map in the centre there is the legendary Hyperborea and around it – the coast of the Northern ocean with easily recognizable contemporary rivers and islands.
According to the legends, in this northern country high above the horizon there was a star which was pointed by the northern Earth axis. The Polar day and Polar night lasted for several months, they were divided by the dawn and sunset, the duration of which was about 30 days. Sometimes the darkness of the long night was interrupted by Northern lights. The climate was favourable there. Hyperboreans, the inhabitants of the ideal country, were especially loved by Apollo (there were his servants and votaries in Hyperborea). According to the schedule made in ancient times Apollo visited these lands every 19 years. Generally, Hyperboreans were close to gods. The life in happy Hyperborea along with devout prayers were filled with songs, dances, epulations and universal never-ending festivity. Death in Hyperborea came because of the tiredness and satiety of life.
The White Sea region is one of the most replete "megalithic" regions in the country. Megaliths here are represented by labyrinths, masonries and seids. The most famous are the following megalithic complexes:
- Kuzova islands (there are more than 500 seids, stone idols, "phallic stones" – menhirs on Russky Kuzov and Nemetsky Kuzov islands);
- Solovetsky archipelago (labyrinths, mounds, pyramids, dolmens, rosettes on Bolshoy Solovetsky, Bolshaya Muksalma, Bolshoy Zayatsky and Anzersky islands);
- The recently found megalithic assemblages on Bolshoy Zhuzhmuy and Bolshoy Robyak islands (seids, menhirs, stone circle).
Neolithic constructions founded no one knows by whom and when are discovered even nowadays. The mysteries of seids, menhirs, dolmens, labyrinths are far from solving. There is a variety of theories about the systemic connection of this stone construction with sacred earth. The researches draw hypotheses from myths. The amazing romantic British legend tells about the light that comes from the opening hills, that beckons accidental travelers to the country of Sidhes, that live under the ground since old times. Also there are numerous Irish legends about the people who were taken to the Land of the Everlasting Youth, where the time is slower than on the Earth. The legends about Sidhe are widely spread in other myths of the Northern European people.
We will never know what the mysterious northern tribe that left the stone heritage was. Only the legends about the dwarfish people who moved to live underground remain. Who are the "sirtya", "boranday", "chudes" or the Odin's descendants – "Skolds"?
Nowadays it is impossible to identify the ethnic background of the megalith-builders. As well as to understand why megaliths are situated in the "places of force". There is always some geological split, or hypocenter of the ancient earthquake, or radon breakthrough, or some interesting relief forms, in other words – the landscape elements, that has some specific features, distinctive of the surroundings. There is no doubt that these features were well-known to shamans and were used in magical rituals.
It is more likely that ancient people knew and understood the Earth, which allowed them to make the all-purpose megalithic complexes to effect human – it is possible to be healed from illnesses on definite days, on other days you can meditate, "broaden your conscience", on some days you should not come or restrict your stay. Definitely, there was certain rhythm of the sanctuary usage – located in Arctic they could possibly change their features according to the season, Moon phases and other such factors.
It has possibly been a composite system of knowledge that was kept by shamans. Then saami people lost this knowledge, the remaining bits allowed them to establish a primitive cult, where some megaliths were forbidden to draw near (is it the throw-back of the knowledge about the rhythm of seids?), some megaliths were meant for sacrifices to get luck while hunting and to maintain health (the traces of knowledge about healing properties of megaliths?), it was forbidden to make noise near the megaliths (considering that unstable megaliths could be resonators of acoustic vibrations, infrasonic and supersonic, this ban is explainable: unwanted sounds could disturb the vibrations causing negative effects for the visitor).
Likewise nowadays with the help of special programs of "Binaural brain stimulation" and "stereophonic beats" you can manage the state of sleeping and waking. Making such a hypothesis, we can get the new mad idea that ancient people knew about the ability of human brain to radiate feeble electromagnetic waves.
The rhythms:
Delta (0,5-4 Hz): Appear in the period of deep sleep, the trance state.
Theta (4-8 Hz): Appear while sleeping, promote sharpening of perception.
Alpha (8-12 Hz): Appear during the twilight between sleep and waking, promote sense of harmony. This diapason is used in fast language learning programs; here is the band that promotes "Schumann's resonance" (Frequencies, that resonate with geomagnetic field).
Beta (12-30 Hz) : Appears in state of waking.
Gamma (30 Hz and higher): go side by side with idea of "Hyperconcience", "Hyperreality".
May be we deal with complexes that operate according to unknown principles capable of guiding human conscience with the help of acoustic vibrations? The available data make it possible to suggest that megalith-builders had wide knowledge of the Earth's geological structure, its energy scale, the properties of quartzites and other stones, the peculiarities of the nature of the region and human's mind.
What other questions these megaliths may ask and where the answers may lead us?
Source: V. Mizin, "Seid, the stone legend of Lapland".


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I'm having a hard time figuring out what day it is, let alone what month it is! However, October is right around the corner, and I'm pretty excited about some major things happening for Grass Green Design in the coming month!
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In my last blog post I eluded to the fact that this next post would cover the topic of motivation. Whilst I have forgotten half of what was in my mind at that time, I'm hoping I can still remember the other half and it can be of value to eager readers...so read on!
Jared Tendlers' insight into the mental game of poker has been a revelation, and really a breath of fresh air in the poker literature. I think this has been demonstrated in its enormous success and the benefit countless individuals have attributed as a direct result of reading the book, listening to the podcasts etc. Moreover, his work is unique in the fact that it targets the entire poker community from noob to top pro, affecting them proportionately in much different realms of the game.
With that said, I wanted to suggest an area of motivation which I think Tendler fails to adequately pick up on, at least in the recent article on motivation I initially referred to in my last blog post.
I believe our hard-wired fight-or-flight mechanism plays a crucial role in basically everything we do. It can be seen most obviously when we face life or death situations, or when we walk close to a cliff edge, or in fact, even when we're about to go into a job interview or chat up the opposite sex. These are just some trivial examples, I would suggest you can draw a link to pretty much everything, it will just be less direct in most cases...
So that brings me on to grinding poker. In a nutshell, I think fight-or-flight has a significant role to play in our levels of motivation to grind. This is pretty obvious, not some groundbreaking assertion. However, I think if we're aware of this fact, it can alter our perception of where our motivation stems from.
Tendler does touch on this idea when discussing the idea of "laziness". He asserts that to stay motivated, one has to push oneself. I feel that if people knew how to push themselves, they simply would. It'd be like intellectual viagra.
So I would like to explore how to push yourself a bit further. Using my preamble about fight-or-flight, I believe the key to pushing ourselves is to understand and manipulate our hard-wired fight-or-flight response. It is often said that we never feel quite as alive as when we feel terrified, and this can be thought of as a "heightened state of awareness". This sounds pretty useful for a poker player. That's often how being "in the zone" is described. The opposite to being in the zone, or having a heightened state of awareness, is to lack awareness, consciousness and clarity, instead to drift without a clear purpose and without drive. I think these ideas describe laziness and dreaming (but not burnout).
If one agrees that triggering fight-or-flight does in fact lead to those feelings, and those feelings are directly equivalent to the opposite of laziness and dreaming, then we can conclude that we gotta get ourselves some of that! I don't want this post to go on forever so I'll bullet point a few suggestions of how to stimulate and positively use fight-or-flight to your advantage:
- Remind yourself daily that your life is like sand in an hourglass, and the sand is falling to the bottom constantly. You don't know how fast the sand is falling and when it'll all run out.
- Think of a family/friend bereavement, allow it to attach significance to your present opportunity which you can simply throw away, or in honour of whoever has been lost, you're going to actually make something of every single thing you have or get in the future.
- Watch the news each day, you'll see enough terrible stuff going on to realize you gotta make the most of the chance you've got. To make this more lucid, really try and visualize and imagine being in the position of the person who is in the middle of the atrocity.
- Think about whatever it is that gives you butterflies in your tummy or the heart beat a bit faster. Link that to a sense of purpose and a decision to act NOW and not waste your present opportunity.
- Remember the greatest triumph/achievement you ever had, how you felt and what it would feel like now, and what it would TAKE to get there.
- Affirm what it is that makes you great, or what it is you're going to achieve in the future that will be great. Think of how special that is, and how hard it is to be like that/do that. Really consider all the steps and sacrifices involved, and let that be a lesson of where SUCCESS+GREATNESS COMES FROM.
The first few examples might seem rather morbid, and yeah they are, sorry! Hopefully the last ones cheer you up a bit :). But what is crucial is to leave with a POSITIVE MENTAL ATTITUDE regarding all of these. Positivity is your battery, and it needs a full charge to remain motivated and inspired. So you have to think of those morbid things as a fuel for your positivity, that you really do have a huge opportunity to succeed and crush, not to curl up in a corner and feel depressed and a victim of everything that has gone before you.
A final word on burnout. I stated earlier that burnout is dissimilar to laziness and dreaming in that fight-or-flight cannot positively influence it the same way. In fact, burnout is basically a result of overloading yourself. Fight-or-flight is emotionally and sometimes physically exhausting, so actually overdoing it would LEAD to burnout! As Tendler says, rest is the key, in terms of how much sleep you're getting, how much time away from the computer you are getting, how much time away from thinking about poker you are getting, and how many breaks you take during your actual grind.
I often think of great tennis players between games when they get those couple of minutes to eat a banana and gulp some juice. They often seem to just be somewhere else, in another world. You would think that the importance of a slam final would ensure they stay focused on the game at all times, but these small breaks are absolutely crucial for re-charging and recovering, mentally even more than physically. Now poker is far more mental than physical, so the benefit of a break to recharge and recover psychologically is enormous. I also think to world championship chess matches, the super grandmasters will pace up and down or walk around away from the board numerous times in a game, only a minority of them sit at the table for the full duration of the game without getting up.


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Kasha Boutique Hotel
Situated in Matemwe, Kasha Boutique Hotel enjoys a privileged spot on the cliffs overlooking a beautiful tropical lagoon of the Mnemba Atoll coral reef. This intimate property provides the perfect retreat for those who seek to enjoy the beauty of Zanzibar in privacy and style. The chic Swahili-Arabic influence to the decor creates an airy, serene feel to the hotel with all the comforts you would expect.
The large infinity pool at Kasha Boutique Hotel is positioned high up with glorious views of the beach and during low tide the beach is directly accessible by steps. In the evening dine at The Sama Restaurant which turns out some of the best fresh local food on Zanzibar.
Kasha Boutique Hotel offers 11 luxury villas. Each air conditioned villa has an open plan style with private indoor and outdoor barazas and they feature their own private plunge pool looking out towards the sea.
How to get to Kasha Boutique Hotel
North east coast of Zanzibar, approx. 1.5 hr transfer from Zanzibar airport.
Activities at Kasha Boutique Hotel
The Mnemba Atoll is one of the finest points for diving in the Indian Ocean, featuring some of the best underwater landscapes in the world. Snorkelling, cycling, fishing, Show cruises, cultural experiences.
Kasha Boutique Hotel Reviews
Read what our previous clients thought of Kasha Boutique HotelClient Score: 4.9 out of 5 based on 8 reviews 5 Showing 1 - 2 of 8 reviews
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Lovely luxury room with all we needed, great pool and views to ocean, brilliant snorkelling trip, and nice food. Only issue was speed at which food would come out and forgetting our orders at times.Read full trip review
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The resort was like a little paradise. We are very glad for requesting to Adam to book a room facing the sea as it made our experience really unique! We had the suite no 8 (that I really recommend as it is one of the best located). We enjoyed staying around our private little swimming pool. The evening food was really delicious. We also really enjoyed visiting Stone Town, and snorkelling (as…Read full trip review
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Johanna Schumann took the basic gym bag and experimented with holographic materials, snake foil fabrics, sequins, and everything in between to create her unisex bag brand Hannisch.
We caught up with her at her latest shoot to talk brand style and tips for aspiring entrepreneurs.
Tell us a bit about Hannisch?
I started on Kleiderkreisel by selling t-shirts that I had printed. At some point I moved on to making gym bags, because I like using them myself a lot and really enjoy producing them, so that's what I've made my part time job.
Whereabouts are you based?
I'm based in Berlin and I do everything at home, selling mostly online.
When did you launch?
I can't tell you an exact date. I think it was in 2014.
How did you get into making bags?
I like gym bags a lot, so I just experimented with it until I had a perfect cut. It just kind of came to me. I can't actually say how exactly.
What motivates you to do what you do?
I feel inspired quickly when I see fabrics. It's enough to just walk through the store I buy my fabrics in. I can always think about new ideas there. I get motivated by positive feedback from people who own the bags, for example, when I see people on Instagram wearing them.
What are the inspirations behind Hannisch?
My name is Johanna Schumann and in my last years of school it suddenly became my nickname. A classmate came up with it and it established itself everywhere as my username, so now it's Hannisch.
How would you describe your brand style in one sentence?
That's a good question. I'd say something for everyone.
What's your all time favourite item from your collection?
I think the silver Holo bag.
What would be your advice to anyone who wants to create their own brand?
I wouldn't say that I'm an actual brand already, but I'd say just go for it and do it. I mean, these days anyone can do it.
Why do you think video is important for selling?
When you don't know that much about fabrics, it's better to see what it looks like in motion. You can get a better idea of what you're buying that way.
What are your top three style tips?
I don't really have any tips. Just whatever you like and what's lying at the top of your closet!
What's on your Spotify playlist right now?
I don't have Spotify, but I can tell you what I have on my iTunes. At the moment, Red Hot Chili Peppers – I usually listen to rock and alternative.
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Our non-nano mineral sunscreen Best Buys are Odylique, Badger and Neal's Yard. They all based on non-nano zinc oxide and titanium dioxide.
Our nano mineral sunscreen Best Buy is Green People, which is based on nano-sized titanium dioxide.
Our chemical sunscreen Best Buy is Lush's solid, wash-in sunscreen.
All of these companies have a strong ethical culture, having a good set of policies and using completely or mostly organic certified ingredients. They all make sunscreens with an SPF of over 15 and a UVA rating.
Ethical issues in the cosmetics sector
The use of sun protection products saw an overall rise in 2016. In particular, the purchasing of sun protection with high and medium levels of SPF.
Despite the rise in usage of sun protection products however, the category is expected to show little change in value in 2016.[1]
The following brands got our best rating for animal testing, meaning that the companies do not use ingredients that have been tested on animals after a fixed cut off date: Odylique, Badger, Green People, Neal's Yard, Pure Nuff Stuff, Lush, Jason and Aesop.
The following brands got our middle rating, meaning that the companies state that they do not test on animals but do not appear to have a fixed cut off date: Yaoh, Attitude and Lavera.
All of the others got our worst rating.
While sunscreen itself is unlikely to contain palm oil, many of the companies that produce it also produce other personal care products that do.
The following brands got our worst rating for palm oil: Benefit, Superdrug, Hawiian Tropic, Banana Boat, Clarins, Aesop and Lavera.
The following got our best rating: Odylique, Pure Nuff Stuff and Lush.
All of the others get our middle rating.
Sunscreens come in two types: chemical ones which absorb the UV like a sponge, and mineral ones, made of zinc oxide and titanium dioxide, which reflect it like a mirror.
Mineral sunscreens are very old - the use of zinc oxide paste for sun protection goes back thousands of years.
It is most common for the mainstream brands to be chemical sunscreens, and those produced by 'natural product' companies to be mineral ones, although many sunscreens now combine both methods. The brands we have rated are divided into chemical and mineral in the table below:
The particles in mineral sunscreens need to be small, as large particles create gaps that the sunlight can get through. They also leave a white residue on the skin which few people who aren't into vampire chic consider to be a particularly classy look.
As a result mineral sunscreens are nowadays frequently made of nano-particles – microscopic particles about 1/50,000 the width of a human hair.
Scientific sources unanimously say that the balance of evidence suggests that sunscreens containing nano-particles are safe to use.
However, despite the fact that they appear to be safe for consumers, companies that state that they use nanoparticles still lose half a mark in our Controversial Technologies category, because the impact of nanoparticles on the environment or on the workers who make them is not fully understood, and various concerns have been raised on both fronts.
Some of the ingredients used in chemical sunscreens have also raised concerns, on both health and environmental grounds.
The main two are oxybenzone, which has some endocrine disrupting properties, and retinyl palmitate, a form of vitamin A, which some believe may hasten the development of skin cancer.
As with nano-particles, the medical authorities maintain that both of these chemicals are safe to use. The European Scientific Committee on Consumer Products reviewed the studies on oxybenzone and concluded that it "poses no health risk" in sunscreen.
A systematic scientific review published in 2011 examined the data on both chemicals and drew the same conclusion. They argue that it's easy to find the odd study showing a scary effect in mice or cells for almost any chemical, but the kind of consistent pattern of evidence required to make a scientific case for danger in humans is not present.
Oxybenzone has also been implicated in the bleaching of coral reefs. Some argue that it is not an important threat compared to the others that coral reefs are facing. However, if you are going swimming around any coral while on holiday it isn't hard to choose a sunscreen that doesn't contain it.
Lush's chemical sunscreen is based on Octocrylene, Octylmethoxycinnamate and Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane.
When looking at the risks associated with the ingredients in sunscreen, it is important to keep them in perspective. The link between UV and skin cancer is substantial and well-established, and it kills 2,500 people a year in the UK.
At various places on the Internet you can find people saying that UV does not cause cancer, but in fact sunscreen itself causes cancer. The claim is often based on the fact that the incidence of skin cancer has increased rather than decreased since sunscreen use became common.
Sunscreen can definitely lead to increased cancer risk by giving people a false sense of security, encouraging them to stay longer in the sun. However, largely, scientists attribute the increase in skin cancer to factors that are nothing to do with sunscreen.
Primarily, people tend to wear less clothing now, due to relaxing sexual norms and the fact that tans used to be considered unattractive. In addition there is more UV around due to ozone damage. Average clear sky sunburn-inducing radiation at mid-latitudes is about four percent higher than in the 1970s, but in some areas it has gone up substantially more.
Surveys show that much of the population is highly confused about the protection rating system for sunscreen. The reason that it is so confusing is that the science has evolved since the Sun Protection Factor (SPF) rating system was designed. As a result the SPF only refers to how good a sunscreen is at blocking UVB radiation, which is the type that causes sunburn and used to be considered the sole problem. For instance, if you burn within 10 minutes of being out in the sun then a sunscreen with an SPF of 15 will give you 150 minutes of protection (10 x 30).
However, in the 1980s scientists discovered that another type of rays, UVA, were also responsible for causing cancer, and were probably the main culprit for ageing the skin. Within the EU the amount of UVA protection is indicated in one of two ways, either by a 5 star system, indicating the ratio of UVA protection to UVB protection, or by the letters UVA inside a circle, which signals that UVA protection is at least one third of the UVB protection and that it meets EU recommendations. Outside of the EU, sunscreens that protect against both UVA and UVB have "broad spectrum" written on the label.
In the EU, sunscreen labels can only go up to SPF 50+. It is considered misleading to print higher numbers as they don't provide any better protection. EU law also stipulates that UVA protection should rise in proportion to SPF. In the USA there is no such regulation, and US sunscreens often boast ridiculously high SPF numbers and have very poor UVA protection.
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Box Office Mojo Analysis for Dawn Treader
Posted February 11, 2010 2:27 pm by Glumpuddle
Brandon Grey from Box Office Mojo has posted his thoughts on how The Voyage of the Dawn Treader will fair at the box office. He seems to come to the conclusion that making the third Narnia film a box office hit will be an uphill battle, although he realizes that "the book on which it's based is reportedly dearer to Narnia's disciples than Prince Caspian was."
While Prince Caspian received a lot of flack, Narnia was never destined to be the next Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, despite its auspicious beginning. The first movie was based on the only widely-known book in the Narnia series and it was a complete journey, whereas all of the Potters and Rings were famous and had the benefit of story continuity. The wait was longer between the Narnia movies than for Potter and Rings, and Prince Caspian came off as just another fantasy adventure, nearly indistinguishable from the plethora of similar fantasies made in the wake of Potter and Rings.
In the final paragraph, he writes, "One should expect the ship to sink further than Prince Caspian." Let's prove him wrong, NarniaWebbers! As Douglas Gresham would say, bring your friends, and have them bring their friends (and enemies too).
Thanks to narnian1 and Kotarki for the heads-up!
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K. J. Hill says: February 11th, 2010 on 2:44 PM
🙁 I hope he's wrong, and that the movie turns out to be fantasic!
andrea says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:09 PM
It's gonna be fantastic!
Narnia Is My Life says: February 12th, 2010 on 6:33 AM
It is going to be AMAZING 🙂 nobody cares about one persons view cause we all know it is going to be the best film the world has ever seen 🙂
Duffleglum says: February 15th, 2010 on 4:10 PM
me too, but the truth is that these people aren't really that dedicated to the story… I will enjoy the Narnia movies that come in the future, but I know that things of this world are not what we should hope or trust in.
Embrace says: February 11th, 2010 on 2:45 PM
Let´s prove them wrong indeed! The Dawn Treader will tread new ground, sail the seven seas and party hard to the break of dawn! Wind it up!
Narnia Girl says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:42 PM
That's the spirit! 😀
LL says: February 11th, 2010 on 2:48 PM
Bring it on!
Sean M says: February 11th, 2010 on 2:54 PM
I have to admit, BOM is right. The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is by far the best known book in the Chronicles. On the other hand, really good movies have a way of being seen. Look at Avatar. It's raked in billions of dollars because people liked it. Basically, if The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is a great movie, it will probably be sucessful.
Keyaan says: February 11th, 2010 on 8:06 PM
Not that I thought Avatar was a bad movie or anything, but I think another reason it did so well was because it was also super hyped.
Shasta of Archenland says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:36 PM
Yes, Avatar had a lot of things on its side before it came out. Everyone knew about it and wanted to see it, for one thing. Everyone knew it was visually and technologically stunning. Everyone knew that it had been more than a decade in the making. Before it had even come out, it was widely known and already a big sensation. I don't know that the Dawn Treader could pull off such publicity.
DamselJillPole says: February 12th, 2010 on 9:38 AM
I agreed with him a lot towards the end where he wrote that this movie needs marketing efforts. As long as they start putting out the word now instead of after the summer people will get hyped.
iLiveInNarnia says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:08 PM
His expectations seeme too low. Although I do agree on some parts of this interview. Im hoping he is wrong!
Lady Galadriel says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:12 PM
Narnia needs something to make it distinguished from the Rings trilogy. An annoying thing about PC (and LWW to some extent) was what looked like intentional similarities with the LOTR movies.
As long as VDT isn't focused all on war, I hope it does well!
Lucy P. says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:20 PM
I'd have to agree with BoxOfficeMojo. So let's hope for that "extraordinary marketing effort".
Danielmybrother says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:32 PM
That was a discouraging article. I believe and hope he's wrong as can be. We Narnia fans know that Voyage is one of the best fantasies around. Spread the word to friends who haven't read the book. It can't fail.If it stays close to the book it can't fail!
Narniafan#1 says: February 11th, 2010 on 5:19 PM
Agreed!!! 🙂
Aravis and Hwin says: February 12th, 2010 on 7:19 AM
I agree too! 🙂
Mal says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:41 PM
Well, we can only hope for the best!
Eliseo says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:51 PM
He is right to an extent, though I also think that he is overy pessimistic. While I dont expect any Narnia movie to gross more than LWW, I do expect Dawn Treader to be more successful than Prince Caspian. It is also my hope that it will also be enough to green light more Narnia films.
The Servant says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:54 PM
I'll prove him wrong. I'll try to get a ride with some friends, then go with my own family. That'll do my best to give more box office.
RumbleBuffinTheStrong says: February 11th, 2010 on 3:59 PM
Bring it on!
Fire Fairy says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:01 PM
I agree that he has some points he's right about, but that doesn't mean much. Part of Prince Caspian's failure to be a huge success was 1)it's the least-read book in the series, 2)it's a very difficult story to adapt to the screen, and 3)they released it in May, where it had to compete with several long-anticipated movies. It just had no chance. VDT, however, is the most popular book after LWW, and it has a December release, which is probably when it will do the best. Also, I consider it a very good thing that Disney dropped out. While VDT may have lost the "Disney" logo and publicity, it earned a completely new audience with Fox. I feel fairly confident about VDT's release, providing we do our part by giving the best kind of publicity–word of mouth. (Besides, remember Avatar? Everyone thought it would fail…)
Tawariell says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:08 PM
It sounds as if he's taking a Puddleglum approach to this… 😛
I think it's a better story than PC, and if the adaption is done well, it will do well in the box office. I will be sure to bring all my friends and their friends (and enemies) to see it!
Starlily says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:31 PM
I think we should all prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. Don't set our hopes too high, but don't get discouraged either.
And predictions are often wrong. 😉
Aslan's my homeboy says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:44 PM
I totally think that we can prove him wrong. Altough it may not do as good at first due to Prince Caspian if the movie is good then people will probably go based off of what everyone is saying who went. All I know is that all of my friends and I will be going to the very first show! We are going to get as many people as possible to go!
Lucy96 says: February 13th, 2010 on 11:45 AM
I Agree! I will be doing the same thing!
Nathan says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:48 PM
Of course he's wrong. The flack that Prince Caspian recieved had nothing to do with story continuity or the wait inbetween movies. The reason Prince Caspian did bad is because it's a pathetic movie. The reason why it's a pathetic movie is because the filmmakers didn't stick to the book. The movie makers are supposed to be STORY tellers. But they didn't tell the story of Prince Caspian. Rather, they just expected you to have read the book, and those who didn't read the book didn't have a clue what was going on.
One guy I know who didn't read the book said, "What was the significance of the old guy?"
I was like, "What?!! The old guy?!! You mean Dr. Cornelius?"
He didn't even know who Dr. Cornelius was, nor his significance in the story!
Because the movie makers failed to tell the story of Prince Caspian they left the audience wondering what the heck was going one, therefore the movie didn't perform like any of the big blockbusters like Lord of the Rings.
One of the most touching scenes in Prince Caspian was the reuniting of Caspian and his old nurse. They left it out of the movie!!
glumPuddle says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:34 PM
(FYI: "Flack" means marketing)
Nurse was cut because the Caspian in the movie is older than the Caspian in the book. Way too old to have a nurse.
So why did Caspian have to be aged? Because it's important that he be about the same age as Peter. And William Moseley had aged since the filming of LWW. So it was a change that had to be made.
Doctor Cornelius is not as prominent of a character in the movie, because of the unfortunate but necessary structural changes they made. The way the story is told in the book works great in the book, but just would not work in the movie. This fundamental structural change FORCED them to make many more changes. Cutting most of Doc's scenes was one of those changes.
As a huge fan of film as an art form, I'm slightly offended by the suggestion that a movie's box office depends on how good it is. Totally not true. Transformers 2 was one of the highest-grossing movies of all time.
FriendOfNarnia2 says: February 11th, 2010 on 10:27 PM
Just look at the Best Picture winner. Nearly all of them have grossed around 100 million or less. Profit = Quality simply isn't true.
Warrior 4 Jesus says: February 12th, 2010 on 4:53 AM
Too right. And what about Avatar? Talk about style over substance. The visuals were very good but the rest was very mediocre (perhaps worse). VDT may sound just like any other fantasy movie but it's not.
Nathan says: February 12th, 2010 on 6:47 AM
I think to say that structural changes to the book were necessary for the movie is a very strange and closed minded belief. When I read the book Prince Caspian I felt it was structured perfectly for a movie with flashbacks. Just like the flashbacks in Forrest Gump. Just like the flashbacks in Titanic. Just like the flashbacks in The Princess Bride.
The fact that Caspian is too old for a nurse is no problem for the movie. All they would have to do is show some flashbacks to when Caspian was very young and had his nurse taken away. They could have used a child actor who looked like Ben Barnes. Then show him reunite with her when he's older.
It's obvious Caspian made less than half the amount of money LWW made because LWW was a GOOD movie. But the story of Caspian wasn't told the way that Lewis told it, and almost all of the allegory was lost. Which, by the way, the Christian allegory was one of the main reasons Lewis wrote the books. It's no wonder a perverse and worldly movie director like Adamson would want to strip the story bare of it's deeper insights. And this stripping of the story is what cheapened the movie, in both quality and box office revenue.
HighQueenofNarnia says: February 12th, 2010 on 1:33 PM
Nathan, the book was NOT structured to make a movie. I mean, some flashbacks are absolutely fine, but too many and the movie gets entirely too confusing. Did you expect them to make approx. a third of the movie in flashback? The book is structured this way. The Pevensies come to Narnia and meet Trumpkin. He tells them all that happened to Caspian and the position that they are in now. They then spend chapters just trying to find the right way. Caspian (the title character) is nonexistent in these chapters. Then the boys and Trumpkin finally meet Caspian. Peter becomes the main character in the fight, not Caspian. The Telmarines come to the bridge, and then there's another flashback to the girls and Aslan. Then all of them meet at the very end.
The Pevensies, in the book, are the main characters, not Caspian. However, the movie is called Prince Caspian. Do you expect them to make a movie called Prince Caspian that's about some kids called the Pevensies? People who just decided to see the movie and don't know about Narnia would become confused that the title character isn't in the story. The producers did it this way to allow Caspian more screen time.
Lady Galadriel says: February 12th, 2010 on 3:36 PM
I am glad that they did not do it in flashback style like the book. I think it might have been weird to have Trumpkin say "Let me tell you a story" on screen, and then have a narrator come in. That is, I would rather not have seen that. But couldn't they have still done the movie in the same more straightforward manner, yet not placed the Pevensies in most of the movie? What I'm saying is, couldn't it have been all the same timeline and simply had the Pevensies arrive AFTER the night raid (instead of Peter being the one to have actually instigated it)? Caspian could have been the one solely in charge of the night raid, and then they could have done something like having the Pevensies fighting the Telmarines in the woods or something. I'm sure it could have been done.
Bother Eustace says: February 13th, 2010 on 7:45 AM
Lady Galadriel, I think the reason they didn't do it like that is because when people come to see a sequel, they want to see familiar characters from the previous installment. People who came to see PC but had never read the book were expecting to see the Pevensies – they would have been very confused and felt distanced from the movie if the first half was all about some character they'd never seen before, and the old characters were nowhere to be found. Honestly, I agree with you; i think it would be nice if the Pevensies came a bit later. However, in a movie, it probably wouldn't have worked.
Lady Galadriel says: February 14th, 2010 on 9:33 AM
Well, I meant there still could have been scenes with the Pevensies throughout the whole. They would just meet Caspian later, that's all.
Lover of Narnia says: February 17th, 2010 on 12:35 PM
I completely agree with you Glumpuddle. Some changes had to be made because of the characters ages, and the populartity of the book. Nathan, please don't be so negative. Flashbacks would have made the movie a bit confusing, and maybe drag. It was fine how it was. Plus, what has been done is done, what good will complaining about it do?
VOTD will be an awesome movie!!! It will be AWESOMENESS! I'll bring my family and friends (if I can). We'll prove him wrong!! All of us will! It won't sink it will swim and I'll dive in!!!
(Didn't mean to be rude….if I was)
narnian resident says: February 11th, 2010 on 4:57 PM
i think everyone needs to take a breather right now, and stop thinking about how it has a chance of sinking, because nobody knows that yet. no one can know until the movie comes out. so anyone who is thinking this, we need to neutralize our minds till this movie comes out, then we can have the freedom of choosing if this movie will succeed or not.
kaymich12 says: February 11th, 2010 on 5:13 PM
he will be proven wrong….the movie is going to be great..
the Realist says: February 11th, 2010 on 5:41 PM
I agree with him. The Franchise needs to work on their timing…by the time the next movie has come out everyone already forgot the last one..lets hope the Dawn Treader picks up speed for future Narnia films!
Aravis Tarkheena says: February 11th, 2010 on 6:08 PM
Grant Wilson says: February 11th, 2010 on 6:52 PM
don't listen to Brandon Grey the movie has not even been out yet he can't judge the movie when its not out yet i think it can be or should be the best in the movie series
does anyone agree with me leave comments
Aravis and Hwin says: February 12th, 2010 on 7:29 AM
I respect Brandon Gray's oppinion. But I think that the movie will be pretty good, you can't really judge something untill you see it.
glumPuddle says: February 13th, 2010 on 9:32 PM
He never says if he thinks the movie is going to be good or bad. He just says that making it a box office hit is going to be very difficult.
Watziznehm says: February 11th, 2010 on 6:59 PM
One thing that The Voyage of the Dawn Treader has going for it is: the VDT is a seafaring movie. Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are not seafaring adventures; therefore, VDT will stand out apart from them. 🙂
Narnia+Edmund=♥&☮ says: February 11th, 2010 on 7:55 PM
VDT is going to do way better than Prince Caspian! I'm going to watch it at least 10 times, no joke!!!!
Grant says: February 11th, 2010 on 8:01 PM
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decarus says: February 11th, 2010 on 8:16 PM
I have given up hope. It is going to be too different from the book and therefore uninteresting just like Prince Caspian was.
AndreyaofNarnia says: February 11th, 2010 on 8:39 PM
How do you know? You haven't even seen it yet.
I have decided to wait until I have seen VDT before I form any opinion. And yes, the analysis is a bit discouraging, but I'm still gonna bring my friends and enemies! 😉
Lady Galadriel says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:12 PM
I can't guarantee that it won't be vastly different from the book or otherwise, but I don't think it will be dull. I didn't find PC to be dull, although if I compared it to the book I found it disgraceful. It had a lot of action.
I want VDT to be as close to the book as possible (within reason, of course). But I figure, in terms of my beliefs in adaptation, it can't be any worse than PC! (I hope?) So I'm going to hold my judgment too until I see it. Who knows, maybe I will revert to full book purism! *shrugs* But either way, I am certain it won't be boring.
lucy says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:05 PM
I think Box Office mojo is an idiot. Harry potter stinks! Narnia rocks. yeah, maybe lww WAS the only widely known book, who bloody cares? Narnis is just awesome to compare it to other fantasy movies that will never match up to it is just stupid. I don't think VDT will sink. I expect it to sail onto into all our hearts! (Okay I know that sounded cheesy beyond all reason, but give me a break, it's 11:04 PM where I am!)
GlimGlum says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:28 PM
This guy is like a weather forecaster; sometimes he is right, sometimes close, and others really wrong (either overestimating or underestimating results).
I think he under estimates Narnia as just another fantasy series. I believe VDT will be better than PC and perform better. Time will tell…Sail on VDT! 🙂
glumPuddle says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:31 PM
Those of you that disagree with this analysis, try arguing with his points instead of just getting emotional.
Most of his points make a lot of sense. The Chronicles of Narnia are seven stand-alone stories, unlike HP or Lord of the Rings. That is indisputable.
LWW is the most widely-known. Hard to argue with that one.
He says PC failed to stand out. I think that's a very fair point. It just looked like another fantasy film.
It's very rare for a sequel to be more successful than its predecessor. So it is not unreasonable to predict that VDT will gross less than PC.
NarniaWarrior says: February 12th, 2010 on 7:04 AM
I agree somewhat…let's remember that both films did over $1.2 billion dollars world wide, of which over $400 million world wide for PC. That is nothing to shake a stick at. The problem is these movie experts (ahhh)always look at what the US does to gauge the overall success in the movie industry. again, $160+ million in the US is still a decent take for a novel movie…Out of all the banter so far I have noticed that it is not in our hands anyway. Let's allow the Spirit of which C.S. Lewis wrote these great stories/novels the freedom to do it's work…remember, all the other medias of the movies: DVD sales,rentals,of course THE BOOKS ALONE have been a big seller for over 50+ years..Lets all relax and trust that the message that prevails in all of the media will touch hearts like C.S. intended….that was his plan.
Embrace says: February 13th, 2010 on 4:40 AM
Well Revenge Of The Sith, Return Of The King and the three latest Harry Potter movies did better than there predecessers so there is still hope yet! 🙂
CEP Paul T says: February 11th, 2010 on 9:59 PM
I really don't agree with the article, but I do respect his opinion. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader – any movie really – either will work for people or it wont. We can dissect it for good and bad ad nauseaum. The viewers hold the final word in ticket sales. 🙂 Speculation on my part is that it will do reasonably well.
thyservant says: February 12th, 2010 on 3:22 AM
Narnia works well when people don't compare it with the Lord of the Rings and HP anymore. Narnia should be independent if it wants to rock. When people saw PC, some of them held the opinion that it's not as visual effective as the Rings.
Nathan says: February 12th, 2010 on 6:59 AM
The success of the Dawn Treader depends solely on how true to the book Micheal Apted will be. If he stays closer to the book than LWW was, then it will be more successful than LWW. But if Apted makes it more untrue to the book than PC was, then it will be a failure.
If Apted doesn't respect the source material, we'll never see the Silver Chair.
A_Narnian_Ship says: February 12th, 2010 on 6:59 AM
As I was reading the full article, I came across this sentence in the studio description: On this bewitching voyage that will test their hearts and spirits, the trio will face magical Dufflepuds, sinister slave traders, roaring dragons and enchanted merfolk. Will these "Enchanted merfolk" play a fairly large part in VDT since they are important enough to put with the dufflepuds, dragons, and slave traders(all pretty major)?
Silver the Wanderer says: February 12th, 2010 on 9:25 AM
I can understand where he's coming from, but I think it's a tad unfair to judge a movie before there's even a trailer out yet. And I know a lot of people have been making Avatar references, but here's one more: a lot of people thought that movie was going to flop, and look what happened! Let's try to stay optimistic, okay?
glumPuddle says: February 13th, 2010 on 9:34 PM
He's not judging the movie itself. He's talking about its BOX OFFICE. Even if the movie is awesome and everyone loves it, I think it's going to have a hard time grossing $500m.
Reepicheep775 says: February 12th, 2010 on 9:52 AM
Well he's a marsh-wiggle. 🙁
I still think 'Dawn Treader' will do well (better than Prince Caspian').
Kell says: February 12th, 2010 on 11:23 AM
I liked PC a lot everyone is putting it down in fact I liked it better then LWW, and I think VD is going to be just as good. Cant wait to see the first trailer.
Aravis and Hwin says: February 12th, 2010 on 1:17 PM
I liked PC too! LWW is my favorite movie. I can't wait for the first trailor!
katrina says: February 12th, 2010 on 11:34 AM
Uggh! Whatever, VD is going to do amazing!!!
KingSkandartheJust says: February 12th, 2010 on 11:43 AM
I definitely agree with Gresham! Lets try to get people to come! Narnia is AWESOME!
220chrisTian says: February 12th, 2010 on 12:16 PM
I agree with glumPuddle's points. We shouldn't get emotional. At the same time, how dare Gray judge a movie before a trailer?! Does he know the Narnia series as well as the fans? Probably not. I hope and pray he is wrong about VDT.
1. LWW and VDT are probably the best known in the series.
2. We need to get the word out, people! Just like fans did with LWW!
3. I have more faith in Apted and Fox than Adamson and Disney. Sorry.
4. I'm also partly hoping some spotlight on the cast and/or crew spurs interest in VDT.
220chrisTian says: February 12th, 2010 on 12:24 PM
I know this has nothing to do with the news story. But I'm looking for NWebbers who responded to my posts on the "Narnia.com Returns" story: Starlily, HighQueenofNarnia, Aravis Tarkheena, Aravis and Hwin, narniafan4ever, [ForNarniaAndForAslan], NarniaFreak, NarnianElf, and Ariel_of_Narnia. If you're interested, there are a few ways of praying for the Narnia cast and crew.
1. My hyperlinked username will lead you to my Facebook group: "Narnia cast and crew: pray!" If you're on Facebook, join the group! But everything is still available [for reading] to non-FBers.
2. If you're on the forum, NarniaWebber Benjamin started a prayer and fasting group for Skandar Keynes. PM him to join.
3. If you're on the forum, you can submit general prayer requests for the Narnia cast and crew in the "Prayer for famous folk" thread.
God bless you all! Pray!
HighQueenofNarnia says: February 12th, 2010 on 1:22 PM
I've done pretty much all that… except I'm not on FB.
pselpevensie says: February 12th, 2010 on 12:47 PM
i totally disagree with everything he said!!! dawn treader is going to be amazing!!!!!!
Blue says: February 12th, 2010 on 2:13 PM
His reasons are pretty good. I just have more faith in fans who know the series and marketing indrusty okay more than a professional whose closest brush with the books was probably glancing at the cover in a bookstore.
Then, who knows? Might be an epic faliure. Might be a hit. Like Indiana Jones.
Hermitess of Narnia says: February 12th, 2010 on 3:53 PM
Everyone, as long as they stick with the book, the Dawn Treader will not fall into the "just like everything else" category and will probably do well. He might just be saying this to keep people from going to see the movie.
Glenstorm the Great says: February 12th, 2010 on 3:54 PM
that dude is mean. i'm gonna watch it at least 5 times in theatres now. take that 😛
Reepicheep, Knight of Narnia says: February 12th, 2010 on 3:59 PM
Come on, Narnia fans! Let's prove him wrong! The Dawn Treader's going to do great! If Prince Caspian didn't do well, a lot of it had to do with it not having the strongest story line. Anyway, people very well could watch VDT just to see if it's a LWW or a PC, in they way it was made, anyway. Also, a new director, new movie company, etc. might just be enough to make people curious as to where this is going.
Eustace says: February 12th, 2010 on 4:55 PM
He will be eating his words soon. I have already decided to take up a summer or part-time job so I can go to the theater several times. We can do it. Let's prove him wrong.
HighQueenofNarnia says: February 12th, 2010 on 5:26 PM
I agree with some of the money-making things that he said. But none of the expectations! I hope that this movie will exceed everyone's wildest dreams. I have a lot of faith in Georgie, Skandar, Ben, (I don't know about Will) and the other actors to make a good movie. And I dearly hope that the script is close to the book. Otherwise it will sink. But I think that there is hope for Dawn Treader! Andrew Adamson said himself that the book is *checks movie guide* "very cinematic in scope". So hopefully they use the book as the script.
Anonymous Narnian says: February 12th, 2010 on 5:39 PM
(Maybe it's just an over-competitive spirit, but…) I personally take "One should expect the ship to sink further than Prince Caspian" as a bit of a challenge. Well, YOU'RE ON, Brandon Grey! Let's make this movie a success!
Mirima Rosetrader says: February 12th, 2010 on 6:39 PM
Hey!!! The Narnia movies happens to be my favorite of all movies! I bet you are soooo wrong, dude! He's getting proved wrong! I'd like to see the look on his face when the theaters are full to the brim with people, lines go on down the streets! Let's prove him wrong, people!!! I'm going to watch VDT three times for sure!
thefirelillyofnarnia says: February 13th, 2010 on 12:02 AM
Vdt is going to be the best narnia movie ever!
Who cares about one persons oppinon whene the
Houll world would rather chose for themselfs
Wether its a good movie or not
Victoria says: February 13th, 2010 on 4:47 AM
It will tread water!
Just you wait.
Charles says: February 13th, 2010 on 9:37 AM
Really the link to the Silver Chair will have to be made by the Character of Eustace Scrubb. If we love that character we will want to go back with him to Narnia. I'm game I love these movies and I doubt the writer was ever a fan so its just conjecture. Hollywood never knows if it has a hit or not so lets show them Narnia is worth the visit again and again.
further up and further in says: February 13th, 2010 on 10:49 AM
Eragon and The Golden Compass? He's comparing the Dawn Treader to those two stories? Millions of people from many generations are familiar with the Dawn Treader book, while those other two movies are from very recent books. And The Golden Compass got trounced in America because the word got out that the writer was anti-God, and a lot of people refused to go see it.
Liberty Hoffman says: February 13th, 2010 on 2:36 PM
yeah ^^ those two wern't even that popular!
Hermitess of Narnia says: February 16th, 2010 on 6:00 PM
Also, it got out that the Golden Compass was written because the author did not like Narnia. I heard that it was even depressing. It's nothing at all like The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Eragon is not like Narnia; it is about a boy learning about magic and swordfighting with a dragon.
Narnia's fan base mainly comes from parents and their children reading the books, so family friendly movies of them are a must [except, perhaps the Last Battle]. Prince Caspian was a borderline film for the "Family Friendly" category.
Liberty Hoffman says: February 13th, 2010 on 2:36 PM
I think that VotDT is going to do great and surprise everyone! go VotDT!
World's end or bust!
aslan's child says: February 13th, 2010 on 3:05 PM
screeeeew him.what does he know.im gonna bring the whole school.lets show em.those idiots.narnia is way better than the lord of the rings and harry potter.i hate the lord of the rings is so boring.and harry potter is just plain weird narnia is nothing like them!!!!!!!!is 100 times better!
Tarwe, the Narnian Elf says: February 13th, 2010 on 11:02 PM
LWW was really popular with people, while PC was a lot more controversial. Some people really like it, and some people can't stand it. (I love it! :-)) I think that the controversial-ism might possibly be good for VDT. It might make people want to see want if LWW was beginner's luck (as far as making Narnia into movies goes) or if they can pull it off again.
Personally, I'm afraid that VDT might get compared to Pirates of the Caribbean. (Sailing to the end of the world, fighting monsters…) However, VDT has a story, and it's a strong one! I feel pretty confident that it will do well!
I"ll meet you at the theater! The Narnians have been rallied!
Aravis Narnia says: February 14th, 2010 on 6:32 PM
I hope this person is wrong. I hope we can prove them wrong. Dawn Treader is one of the best Narnia installments- while PC was a weak one. May VDT succeed in the theatres.
Puddleglum says: February 14th, 2010 on 8:58 PM
Sounds like a pessimist to me.
HighQueenofNarnia says: February 14th, 2010 on 9:15 PM
I agree- and you would know, Puddleglum. 🙂
Puddleglum says: February 15th, 2010 on 5:32 AM
Thank you your Majesty.
Though I must admit to not looking forward to the concessions in the theater. There will be all the butter they add to cover the stale popcorn. Give me clogged arteries I'm sure.
Nuts4Narnia says: February 15th, 2010 on 4:20 PM
Not I Have any thing to do about it!!!!
Amber says: February 15th, 2010 on 8:43 PM
We HAVE to prove him wrong!! The Narnia books are classics…we have to support it the very FIRST weekend it comes out!!! I am already planning to watch the movie all that weekend and taking my whole family!! I suggest you all do the same!!! As someone already posted: "The Narnians' have been rallied"…we can do this guys!!! VDT CANNOT fail!!!!!!
farsight1 says: February 17th, 2010 on 4:50 PM
I really hope B.O. Mojo is wrong, but I understand where he's coming from.
We still have to see how well Fox promotes Narnia. However, I think it's safe to say that if they market Narnia the way they promoted Percy Jackson, Eragon, City of Ember and The Seeker we could be in for big trouble. The movies weren't all that good – which doesn't help – and it seems they handle all of the promotion materials for their children's fantasy movies (posters, trailers, signs, slogans, press releases etc.) in a 'one-size-fits-all' way.
Say what you will about Disney, but even when their family films are dumb and all the same, you know their marketing will make them look as if they were slightly interesting and different from one another – even when they're not. Their only major flaw is they usually pick the worst release dates.
I sincerely hope Walden has more say in the marketing of the movie than we imagine.
shirerat says: February 17th, 2010 on 8:25 PM
sadly, Dawn Treader has no villain, no action, and very little plot. the story is great and of course the characters are awesome, but there is no real build-up to anything. no tragedy, very little romance, very little danger, and an epic ending of a mouse ascending to heaven. how is this supposed to be a box-office blockbuster?
farsight1 says: February 18th, 2010 on 2:50 PM
They don't NEED a story build up to make it a blockbuster. They need to get the book RIGHT. If they start messing around with it the way they did with PC, I don't care if we don't get any more Narnia movies our way anytime soon. Watching your favorite books get ruined on the big screen is too painful (specially when you KNOW how good these movies could have been).
tolkienlewisfan says: March 6th, 2010 on 2:28 PM
It will be a rought ride to VoDT. While i loved the book, it does have some issues when making the transition to the big screen. 1. No villian to root against, unless u cosider eustace one. 2. There is no build up or climax. A mouse ascending into heaven nor the talk between Aslan and the children is a climax. After the dumb decision to sandwich PC between Iron Man and Indy4, I think the Narnia franchise might end here…I pray that I am wrong.
NarnianElf says: February 18th, 2010 on 2:22 PM
Yikes… now they have me scarred!!
Pessimistic Hubristic Misanthrope says: February 20th, 2010 on 10:19 AM
how the heck did they give you a scar?
polly plummer says: February 18th, 2010 on 2:25 PM
Not to worry shirerat they'll probably add a villian, major battles, new plot lines, tragedy, danger and romance. If they do I don't care if they make any more films – I'll not be watching them if they massacre them the way they did PC I could count on my hands the number of scenes they actually took from the book!
polly plummer says: February 18th, 2010 on 2:29 PM
By the way the epic ending isn't 'a mouse ascending to heaven' Its the Pevencies and Eustace meeting Aslan and his revelation as God and how they can see him in their own lifes. If done well it could be a really emotional scene – however given how all references and Christian symbolism were ignored I don't hold much hope for this scene – wow I'm gettign pessimistic!
GodsGadfly says: March 7th, 2010 on 6:37 PM
And, technically, it's not a mouse "ascending" into Heaven; only Jesus (or Aslan) can "ascend" into Heaven. In Catholic terminology, it would be "assumed" (as in the Assumption of Mary); in Protestant terminology, "raptured" (as in, well, the Rapture)–both emphasing God bringing the person *up* to Heaven, where Jesus ascended of His own power.
Pessimistic Hubristic Misanthrope says: February 18th, 2010 on 7:15 PM
wow lawlz this movie gonna suck
Linnea Rowlatt says: February 18th, 2010 on 7:39 PM
I liked Prince Caspian, and I bet I'll like The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, too. I think as long as they're faithful to the spirit of the books, some allowance has to be made for the transfer to another media.
I also think it's a good idea they're releasing Dawn Treader over Christmas, instead of in May (even though it's a longer wait), because the winter mood for films is different than the summer mood. And, think how nice it'll be to see a beautiful warm ocean on screen in December!
Jo says: February 19th, 2010 on 6:51 AM
Truthfully, I don't really care about the fact that there will be less action scenes or whatnot. Just as long as they continue giving us SOMETHING. 🙂 Peace. 😀 I love Narnia!
Alambil and Tarva says: February 24th, 2010 on 10:19 PM
I actually think the fact that VDT is going to be less action-based is going to serve in its favor. Of course we love the action in fantasy/scifi films, and no doubt it will have some of that, but after awhile it just becomes an overload, especially if the plot and characters are weak (think Avatar). What VDT has is not necessarily what one would call a normal plot, but it has the foundation of the archetypal adventure/journey story, a type of story that has been often associated with epics such as The Odyssey, or classic novels such as Treasure Island. It has to be said that although yes, we do love the battles, NO ONE can resist a good story about a sea voyage. There's something that's different about those kinds of stories, something that is magical in a very different way from other stories. Plus, when you combine that with the original genius of C.S. Lewis and the genius of Apted's crew and the cast, you get a stunning film that is much more than an ordinary fantasy film. From what I've read about the sneak peeks in L.A. recently, it looks like we're going to be blown away by this film. Just the implications of how amazing the ocean cinematography is, along with the CGI, and how Mark Johnson and Michael Apted described the plot as being very character-driven seem to indicate that VDT is going to exceed expectations.
My belief is that it's going to be the surprise blowout hit of the year. I sincerely hope I'm right.
And just to add, the Potter films as a whole are not that great. Only 'Half-Blood Prince' came just a hair shy of being phenomenal–as an adaptation it was good, and as a film on its own it was amazing. However, none of the previous films really achieved that same status as HBP did (save for maybe 'Chamber of Secrets'). LOTR was mind-blowing, but HP has been for the most part sub-par and very inconsistent in style (you can tell when the directors switched for the films). Both LWW and PC have well exceeded the standards set by the HP movies.
Aravis says: March 2nd, 2010 on 11:11 AM
I don't think the movie of PC really ruined the books for me. I've been an obsessed narnia fan since I was around seven years old, and I usually don't like it when they make movies way different than the books, but I think they did an awesome job of capturing the general plot of the book, even if many of the details were different. the symbolism really came through, and i thought it was really powerful. I loved both the movies, and I'm definately looking forward to seeing VDT in December!