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|Michael Jordan
|Collector Level Rewards
|North Carolina
|Isolation, Mid Range, Cutter
|Sell Value
|September 30th, 2015
|Collect 2700 cards
99 Overall
95 Outside scoring
- 98 Standing shot mid
- 98 Moving shot mid
- 93 Standing shot 3pt
- 90 Moving shot 3pt
- 98 Shot IQ
- 89 Free throw
- 98 OffensiveOff. consistency
95 Inside scoring
- 98 Standing shot close
- 98 Moving shot close
- 98 Standing layup
- 98 Driving layup
- 70 Standing dunk
- 95 Driving dunk
- 70 Contact dunk
- 92 Draw foul
- 98 Post control
- 40 Post hook
- 97 Post fadeaway
- 98 Hands
88 Playmaking
- 93 Ball control
- 92 Passing accuracy
- 80 Passing vision
- 97 Passing IQ
94 Athleticism
- 94 Speed
- 94 Acceleration
- 96 Vertical
- 71 Strength
- 99 Stamina
- 98 Hustle
- 98 Overall durability
99 Defending
- 99 On-ball defensedef. IQ
- 79 Low post defensedef. IQ
- 99 Pick & roll defensedef. IQ
- 99 Help defensedef. IQ
- 98 Lateral quickness
- 99 Pass perception
- 97 Reaction time
- 92 Steal
- 50 Block
- 98 Shot contest
- 98 DefensiveDef. consistency
74 Rebounding
- 68 Offensive rebound
- 75 Defensive rebound
- 82 Boxout
3961 Total attributesattr.
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486[] mahone2204 486
People can complain about the unrealistic stats all they want. If I get 2700 cards I want the equivalent of Shaq shooting free throws and mids. I wouldn't want a Jordan with a 75 3pt rating for collecting 2700 cards...71[] kendpecoraro 71
100. Truth.30[] Jeremy9096 30
This will be the first comment to hit 100Show 27 replies...8
Lmao 129 up-votes2
162 lol3
it has 10 downvotes3[] Jeremy9096 3
Oh.. Ok3
First to 1k? lol2
close lmao2
UMMM YAY2[] kasuballer 2
lol it took 6 months to reach 100, but only another 2 to reach 2001
back when it was rare to get 20 upvotes lol0
54 upvotes and counting.. holy fuckShow 3 replies...4[] mahone2204 4
I'm gone for 2 weeks and I see this... DamnShow 1 reply...2
*93 threeShow 2 replies...0
Yeah, I like MJ, but that's ridiculous.2
But after you get 2700 cards it should be a 90+.1
well instead of having this card with unrealistc stats we should be able to use our mycareer playerShow 1 reply...0[] mahone2204 0
No cuz people could exploit with their myplayers1
congrats. 100 likes. 107 upvotes too wow1
It's not unrealistic, he shot over 40% from 3 in the '95-96 season. It was the year the brought the line in 2 feet.Show 1 reply...1
yess thank you1
Was tryna click reply then accidently clicked delete... They need to fix that smhShow 5 replies...0
aye i guess one of the admin restored your comment lol0
Yooo I asked tupac to put the comment back and he didd0[] mahone2204 0
Delete shouldn't be next to reply is what I'm saying...0[] 69johncena 0
At least you didn't lose those upvotes1
Goddamn 571
Agreed, as a reward of this caliber, he deserves to be OP, but other MJ cards should not be the goodShow 4 replies...1
*this good4[] Jeremy9096 4
Yeah Jordan being a 99 and having a 3 ball is fine when it's just one card, and is the ultimate reward of MyTeam. But when they give Jordan a monster 3 ball on just a normal card, it's BS.0[] kasuballer 0
tbt to when this was the most upvoted comment on the site, and the first to hit both 100 and 200 upvotes.0
420 likes0
wow this has 420 likes now00
You think that's a 75 3-point rating? look again0
I was 250 lmao0
200 likes omg congrats0
Congrats on 200 upvotes.0[] kozmogames 0
i think we should get this card OR a better diamond for completing all of the rttf challenges instead of Kareem0
Most up-voted comment of all time! Congratulations!!0
This comment deserves a trophy...-1
Review this lineup and add bench players plz!
PLZ REVIEW! HELLPPPPP!! http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/301496/budgetballin-500k-max-starting-1[] aramirez13 -1
MJ sucks i dont get why so many people like him he never even played bball. Nick Young is the real MVP-1
Any suggestions?-1[] KobeD*ckrider -1
Can we make this the first comment to hit 200?-25
The reward should be a Wilt 1961-1962 diamond card. And it should be a 100 overallShow 35 replies...-18
stat padders don't deserve 100 ratings sorry6
Even if he did stat pad. Evidence showed it helped his team far more than anything guys like Michael Jordan or Bill Russell did.0
Do you have an article or link to wherever you found this? Not disagreeing with you, just interested to see the evidence and where it came from.3
Oh I have the evidence myself.
Bulls record before MJ = 27-55
Bulls record after MJ's 1st season = 38-44
11 win difference
Bulls record when MJ gets injured = 30-52
Bulls record when MJ returns = 40-42
10 win difference
Total = 10.5 win difference
Bulls before Pippen = 40-42
Bulls when MJ leaves Pippen = 55-27
-15 win difference
Total = -4 win difference (compared to Pippen)
Warriors record before Wilt = 32-40
Warriors record after Wilt's 1st season = 49-26
17 win difference
Warriors record in Wilt's last season there = 49-31
Warriors record when Wilt leaves = 17-63
32 win difference
Total = 24.5 win difference
In conclusion Wilt helped his team win on average 14 more games than Jordan. Howether prime Jordan (1987 - 37 PPG) V prime Wilt (1962) shows Wilt helped his team win 22 more games at his peak than Jordan helped his.2
Really interesting information, thanks for giving me a different perspective on this!0
Well this makes me think that Wilt was the GOAT-1
Go suck a di*k.
Jordan's much better,
Than your Chamberlain bull sh*t0
Is that meant to rhyme?0
And I know di*k and sh*t don't rhyme1
So why did you write it as a rhyme then?0
Idk0[] maxhandley 0
lol wut-4[] OliverGshock -4
MJ is the face of stat padding-8
He's not a stat padder. If you say he is because he's "passing up shots" you're wrong". I've seen lots of his film, not highlights, but film. And all he was going was passing to the open man. And you're probably a Jordan dickrider or a Kobetard so STFU22
Wilt was a stat padder, but he did it in a way that would help his team. For example, he would not jack up 30 shots he couldn't make and make none of them. He knew his strengths and weaknesses better than probably anyone ever to play the game of basketball. Also, he listened to his coaches and teammates a lot better than Jordan or Kobe. When Alex Hannum clashed with Wilt and told him that he would have to be a facilitator as well as a scorer, Wilt agreed with only some simple fighting. As witnesses say, Hannum stepped up into his face and told Wilt to fight him. Wilt clenched his fists but said nothing, and then said that he had to listen to his coach. Guess what? The 76ers had one of the best years in basketball history that year, and it was all because Wilt listened to his coach unlike Jordan, who would constantly clash with his coaches about how much he would get to score. Tex Winter was an assistant coach with the Bulls and tried to teach the triangle offense, but Jordan shot him down because it would mean less scoring opportunities for him. 100 overall isn't correct though because a 100 overall would have to be a basketball player with no weaknesses, and try as you might, you cannot deny that Wilt had weaknesses. His free throw shooting was ass, his mid-range game deteriorated over the years, and he did not focus enough on defense. I agree that Wilt should at least be above 97, but come on guys, stop being unrealistic.31
This is what i`m saying! Wilt had to stat pad early on and changed his game perfectly throughout his career. Honestly the only weakness I can think of is FT`s and slightly shooting (which he didn`t really need), he was a great defender, 7`2 with a 40+ vertical = 25 block games = Insane rim protection.
1962 Wilt should be a 99 and 1967 Wilt should be a 97-99, if they make both that is of course.0-1
This comment needs more recognition. I didn't realize all Wilt did until you said this. Thank you.5
I can tell you`re new here... (and welcome)00
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You're a rod, right?1
124[] CharliePRD 124
He's so good people call him the Black Scalabrine3
MJ's overrated. No way he compares to ScalabrineShow 73 replies...40
I definitely agree, the 3 best NBA players are MJ, Kobe, and Magic Johnson. And I know for sure that Brian Scalabrine isn't in the top 100.1
You mean Ledo, Kerkins and Caboclo, right?-3[] ryanpsmiley -3
Who is KD?-3[] ryanpsmiley -3
Kevin who?-4[] ryanpsmiley -4
[Deleted]0[] HustleTown 0
Like the town in Oklahoma0
Dur-who?-2[] ryanpsmiley -2
Seriously who is Kevin Durant0
yeno what I mean I have never heard of a Kevin Durant?0
yeah, what a silly name0
maybe he is a basketballer in the europe division?1
ill Google him0
Ok tell me what you find I am genuinely extremely interested in finding out who he is0
Kevin Wayne Durant is an American professional basketball player for the Golden State Warriors of the National Basketball Association. Wikipedia
Height: 6′ 9″
Current team: Golden State Warriors (#35 / Small forward)
Yep. Never heard of him...0
Damn hes in the warriors? thought I would have heard of him then he must be a bench player or something1
Me as well-4[] ryanpsmiley -4
Ok first of all, no one was talking to you. Second, KD didn't get traded you fucking idiot. He got signed. And third, fix your grammer you dumbass cunt00
Oh yeah you are a master at roasting you 7 year old Timothy. Oh yeah cause it matters that you have better drafts than me. Oh yeah I'm replying. Fucking twat0
Im sleep. lol0
nah bruh you cookies he is da G.O.A.T0
other way around-2[] burgernfries23 -2
overrated?! 6 nba titles and 6 finals mvps, 5 mvps, 9 defensive teams, 10 scoring titles, hall-of-famer, 1 of 7 to win ncaa title, nba title, and olympic gold, etc. is nowhere close to a benchwarmer i guess.14
Is it a bird?
Is it a plane?
No, it's my joke that flew right over your head...4
Scal just didnt get the play time...if he did, scal would be even more GOAT than he is0
Can't really tell if it's a joke over the Internet, especially from a hypebeast Warriors fan0
u kids are so dumb! he's not a dickrider u timmy1
Can you type in English please? No one understands you when you type with Curry's dick in your mouth0
Your fucking name is lebronnation. I don't want to hear shit about dicks being in mouths0
Jesus Saves-1
"LebronNation" *Sighs0
Would you rather it be "CurryNation"?2
I'd rather you didn't randomly accuse me of being a Curry bandwagon for no reason when clearly you're the only bandwagon here...0
There really can't be any jumping on a Cav's badnwagon since they were the underdogs here. You are sitting here doing the same thing accusing me of being a bandwagon just because I like Lebron lol0
Technically you are, you went from the Cavs to Heat and back to the Cavs. damn son-2[] LebronNation -2
You're actually dumb af0
You are, you can't take a joke.0
Lol, we gonna be seeing a lot of those now0
Lol, I have had this name since before the finals.0
K? Earn yo stripes before you start chattin shit to guulys like Klayyyyy0
DIdn't know I had to prove anything on a website, especially to Warrior's fans/hypebeasts0
I'm a Blazer fan tho
Warrior's hypebeast's are rare, atm the Cavs are getting overhyped0
Well, they did win four straight games, and come back from a 3-1 losing streak against arguably one of the best teams ever with the first ever unanimous MVP. Also, there are quite a lot of bandwagons out there, trust me0
@Klayyyyyy please tell me you can see this kid saying why people bandwagon the Warriors all I am going to say is I am a bandwagon of the TWOLVES GO WOLVES BEST TEAM EVER doesn't mean I am blind to the fact both curry and lebrin can hold their own and they both play on amazing teams get over it you hairy lebrin fan and go back to the fire where you clearly belonged :P0
Now we're gonna start hating the Cavs fans and root for the Warriors. Except Draymond. I hate him-25[] battiertime -25
hes way worse than scal2
lmao this dude1[] matthewgao 1
upvote number 100 congrats
Wow, not even a 99 layup.-7[] OutlawKing2k -7
XDShow 3 replies...3
-9 for a laughter?1
I gotchya man0
Looks like his crotch is censored by the signShow 1 more reply...-5
FAXShow 1 reply...2[] aramirez13 2
shut up
ur telling me this guy is better than scal-11[] msong12345 -11
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This is a joke.61
2k calls Jordan every morning to ask what he would like to add to the game.Show 12 replies...
Jordan has to revise everything that the developers add to the game, and if Jordan doesn't like it, he changes it.
Legend says, Ronnie2k sends a "Good morning boo" text to Jordan every morning because of his love for him.
Every day at the 2k HQ, all employees must say a prayer in the name of Michael Jordan, because he is their God.
If you mention Kobe Bryant's name at the HQ, you're fired.
That's a little taste of the biased company that made this game.55
This is the best comment ever and i believe it to be 100% accurate1
Well now Ronnie is doing the same thing to Curry lol1
It's funny, because Jordan never called himself the GOAT1
Actually he has multiple times. That's why I don't respect Jordan, he even calls himself the greatest ever.1
Is it on YouTube, article, or what?0
It wasn't kinda an interview, but he was asked like do you think LeBron is the greatest of all time, something like that, and Jordan said "He's good, but he's not me." I mean he's the best and all, but a little modesty maybe?-2
2k calls Jordan every morning to ask what he would like to add to the game.
Jordan has to revise everything that the developers add to the game, and if Jordan doesn't like it, he changes it.
Legend says, Ronnie2k sends a "Good morning boo" text to Jordan every morning because of his love for him.
Every day at the 2k HQ, all employees must say a prayer in the name of Michael Jordan, because he is their God.
If you mention Kobe Bryant's name at the HQ, you're fired.
That's a little taste of the biased company that made this game.-13
you're a jokeShow 5 replies...1
i aint no joke2
I used to let the mic smoke
Now I slam it when I'm done and make sure it's broke
When I'm gone no one gets on cause I won't let
Nobody press up and mess up the scene I set
I like to stand in a crowd and watch the people wonder damn
But think about it then you'll understand
I'm just an addict addicted to music
Maybe it's a habit, I gotta use it
Even if it's jazz or the quiet storm
I hook a beat up convert it in a hip-hop form
Write a rhyme in graffitti in every show you see me in
Deep concentration cause I'm no comedian
Jokers are wild if you wanna be tame
I treat you like a child then you're gonna be named
Another enemy, not even a friend of me
Cause you'll get fried in the end if you pretend to be
Competing cause I just put your mind on pause
And I can beat you when you compare my rhyme wit yours
I wake you up and as I stare in your face you seem stun
Remember me, the one you got your idea from
But soon you start to suffer but you only get rougher
When you start to stutter that's when you had enough of
Biting it, I make you choke, you can't provoke
You can't cope, you should of broke cause I ain't no joke
I got a question, it's serious as cancer
Who can keep the average dancer
Hyper as a heart attack nobody smiling
Cause you're expressing the rhyme that I'm styling
This is what we all sit down to write
You can't make it so you take it home, break it and bite
Use pieces and bits of all the hip-hop hits
Get the style down pack then it's time to switch
Put my tape on pause and add some more to yours
Then you figure you're ready for the neighborhood chores
The e-m-c-e-e don't even try to be
When you come up to speak, don't even lie to me
You like to exaggerate, dream and imaginate
Then change the rhyme around, that can aggravate me
So when you see me come up, freeze
Or you'll be one of those 7 mc's
They think that I'm a new jack but only if they knew that
They who think wrong are they who can't do that
Style that I'm doing, they might ruin
Patterns of paragraphs based on you and
Your offbeat dj, if anything he play
Sound familiar, I'll wait til e say
Play 'em, so I'mma have to dis and broke
You could get a smack for this, I ain't no joke
I hold the microphone like a grudge
B'll hold the record so the needle don't budge
I hold a conversation cause when I invent
I nominated my dj the president
When I'm senile, people freestyle, going steadily
So pucker up and whistle my melody
But whatever you do, don't miss one
They'll be another rough rhyme after this one
Before you know it, you're following and fiendin'
Waiting for the punchline to get the meaning
Like before the middle of my story I'm telling
Nobody beats the r so stop yelling
Save it, put it in your pocket for later
Cause I'm moving the crowd and b a record fader
No interruptions and the mic is broke
When I'm gone, then you can joke
Cause everything is real on a serious tip
Keep playing and I get furious quick
And take you for a walk through hell
Feed your dome then watch your eyeballs swell
Guide you out of triple state darkness
When it get dark again then I'mma spark this
Microphone cause the heat is on, you see smoke
And I'm finish when the beat is gone, I'm no joke
- eric b and rakim-1[] aramirez13 -1
L city m8
Where's the Kevin Hart 99 OVR card @Ronnie2K
Good god what a card. Lol good luck to anyone getting 2700 cards for him1
I got Him0
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lol how? The game's been out a week0
What Mt glitch?0
what mt glitch
4[] oMarcus2Ko 4
Idk why people complain about his stats, he has to be quite OP to give players an incentive to collect cards. Let me collect 2700 cards to get a decent, halfass jordan lol1
True, but his regular 96 card has all the same ratings I think doesn't he?Show 5 replies...0
Maybe they'll update the regular 96 card if it comes out, the one in the hidden players, but the one in the regular roster is the same ratings though so idk.0
They jusy did :D
*Sigh. 2K still haven't learned13
his 3pt should be way lower he wasnt THAT good of a 3pt shooter other wise this is pretty realistic he is the goatShow 97 replies...0[] NKelley333 0
agreed-1[] TruEBalleR1225 -1
That was one of his best years in 3pt tho bruh-2[] Shadrahman -2
his 95-96 version in 2k15 actually had a 90 3pt rating but I agree with u-6[] JL_MoneyBags -6
'96 Jordan .427 3p% '14 Steph Curry .424 3p%
That was Jordan's best year shooting the 3. Bet no one was saying Stephs 3 was too high13
Jordan attempted way less shots than Curry or any other 89 rated 3 point shooter, as already mentioned the 3 point line was shortened and he never made 35% with the real line, only making 30% a few times.4[] Flysenberg 4
Actually he did shoot over 35% with the regular line. Once in 1990 shooting 37% on 245 attempts and again in 1993 shooting 35% on 230 attempts. The seasons Jordan attempted more threes he actually shot a higher percentage. Jordan wasn't a bad outside shooter it was just about the volume of shots he took. The seasons his 3PT% was at its lowest he attempted less than 100 threes for the season meaning most his threes could be chalked up to end of shot clock, end of quarter or desperation situations. Jordan being a bad three point shooter is a myth.0
That he was ever a good 3pt shooter is a bigger myth, unfortunately propagated by 2k. Jordan was a scorer like Kobe is and others are/were, and they can have an avg. 3pt% or even a crazy game (11 3s), but again they should not get high 3pt ratings. It is not as if people woulnd't respect Jordan even in this game, if he had a worse, more realistic 3pt stat, but actually aknowledge his greatness more. Once you gotta cheat you gonna hear it from the people who know. Jordan will always be overrated cuz everyone is profiting from his superidol image.3
I literally just explained in the comment above that Jordan wasn't a bad 3 point shooter. He wasn't elite, but he wasn't bad. This card is so high because its a fantasy card and deservedly so considering you'd want an overpowered reward for collecting literally every single card in the game.0
Let him be OP, but still be based on somewhat realistic stats. You see all these other users who know these stats are a representation of peoples' dream image of Jordan. It proves it perfect. His perception was so different from reality. Also some dude wrote in another article that he didn't need to get to the line that often to get his stats. He lived at the line and in that season got tons of bs touch fouls. He lived off of his image more than any other player ever! Can anyone deny that?0
....(continued) ... and I explained and other people with stats and other relevant information that he wasn't good either. He was a scorer like Kobe (who once drained 11 3s, but so did Donyell Marshall), Wade, Lebron, who could have an incredible night, but never were they consistent 3pt shooters.0
Wow, Bruh, you aren't getting that much hate this year, maybe people have wised up now!1
^Correction, just to make sure what I meant. I dont judge people for their Goat Opinion, you can have Jordan, Wilt, Kobe, Jabbar, or anyone else for your GOAT. I was just saying that because he got so much hate last year0
ikr, the +7 shows-1
If that is your retort for that than your previous comment about how James Harden shoots a better TS% is bullshit. Harden attempts way less shots than Jordan, and he is a vastly worse defender.2
I meant that it makes his 3 point rating un legit and that it could be down to luck or easy shot selection (or a shortened 3 point line...), what i`m talking about has little to do with TS% as both Jordan and Harden shot easily enough shots for both of them to be legit, as well as the fact that Harden attempts way more 3`s and actually makes them consistently. My main argument was points responsible for and positive impact on the team if you`re talking about the long comment BTW.0
So you are saying that James Harden helps his team more than Jordan?
C'mon man, to me that just seems like bias. Jordan is overrated, but to say he helped his team less than Harden is just hate.2
What? That`s completely reasonable.
1983-84 Bulls: 27-55
Jordan joins with ROY campaign: 38-44
1985-86: 30-52 with injured Jordan
Jordan returns and averages 37 PPG: 40-42
1992-93 Bulls: 57-25
Jordan retires: 55-27
Seeing the pattern? Without Harden Houston was <.500, they lost guys such as Kevin Martin, Kyle Lowry and Luis Scola but finished 45-37 in Harden`s first season with the team despite him basically being the only above average player (based on PER, Chandler Parsons was marginally above average too, but they have since lost him as well), the next season they added Dwight Howard and finished 54-28 for a 9 game improvement, they then lost Howard for half of last season and improved by 2 wins due to Harden`s great year, again with only 1 other player above average, Josh Smith who was only 0.2 PER above average, as well as boasting a -0.1 offensive WS...4
Harden has more ISO plays than the entire Warriors team, has over 150 more than the player in second, Melo, who has less than 300 (Harden is coming up on 500), and as a result creates a terrible locker room atmosphere. His production is pretty good, but the Rockets would do better without him if they had a star SG like Butler or Klay instead. Not to mention Harden is on pace to set the all time NBA record for turnovers in a season and already has the record for most in a playoff game and 1 away from the record for a normal game. As usual, you refrain from mentioning the 72-10 when Jordan came back... Rodman isn't 17 wins more important than Horace Grant.0
I said that before the Rockets broke down, I stick with my idea that before this season Rockets harden was more valuable than Jordan.
Rodman probably wasn`t worth 17 wins over Grant, maybe 7-10 though, which leaves another 7-10 left for jordan which based off his previous seasons seems reasonable.0
Hey at least I was able to bring you back haha...4
This is why jordan wasn't a great 3pt shooter:
1. The 3pt line was shortend that season. He never shot a good % from 3 with the real line.
2. He attempted way less shots than other 89 rated 3pt shooters:
Michael Jordan - 42.7 3pt%, 260 3pts attempted
Kyrie Irving - 41.5 3pt%, 378 3pts attempted
JJ Redick - 43.7 3pt%, 456 3pts attempted2-2[] JL_MoneyBags -2
Forgot that was the year they moved it in but to say his 3 is way to high is a stretch these cards are for that specific year they played not their overall reputation. I agree Jordan isn't known for his 3 pointers but he had a good year-18
Everything's too high, EVERYTHING. If this was say 1989 then most of these ratings would be ok (still shouldn't be 99 overall) but this is 1996, he should be a 90 at best.23[] Flysenberg 23
I can respect your opinion that Wilt is the best ever and I actually agree with it, but to think MJ in 1996 is only deserving of a 90 overall is one of the most biased misinformed opinions I think I've ever heard. Are you going to tell me that:
James Harden
Steph Curry
Steve Nash
Anthony Davis
Vince Carter
Paul Pierce
and 09 Dwight Howard were all better players than MJ in 1996? Come on man I know you don't like MJ but wanting him at a 90 is just biased hate.1
tru dat fam0
biased hate indeed-22
Yes! Apart from Pierce, Curry and Carter who probably shouldn't be 90.3
Klay, you broke me. I think I had a brain aneurysm when I read this. I have written a rebuttal for all of your anti-Jordan comments
This is all of the reasons why Jordan is the greatest of all time. Not arguably, but is. Stop with your contrarian opinions, because it's annoying
This is 48 pages long with over 22,000 words. Read it. All of it. If you still have doubts about Jordan's greatness after you read this, I think you might be the most daft and hard-headed person I have ever seen on the internet. And that's saying a lot. In fact if you still have doubts after you said you read it, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and think you're too lazy to read it. Have fun
This is for everyone else too, read this if you think Jordan isn't the GOAT.2
wow. props for writing this.1
I will write a response to this once I get my IPad back as it is currently being repaired and as the laptop i`m using right now is slow as s***. The response will look at EVERYTHING to argue between them and wont be copying stats that a biased you-tuber uses, but will be all me (well I will obviously use the internet to find stats and stuff but I will write it all myself).0
I read yours and now I have a reason for why Jordan is overrated and why Wilt is the GOAThttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1utP3QQwUpFX0GVCr9Hbwbei1Ew1a6KaBAz3za8a2bQk/edit?usp=docslist_api3
No you didn't read mine. Many of your points have been addressed in mine. The flagrant foul rule was already implemented before Jordan got into the league. You bring up Dennis Johnson and call him a cupcake player yet he was a finals MVP and is usually recognized as one of the best defenders of all time and many times is recognized as a top 5 most underrated player of all time. You call Joe Dumars the 4th best player on the Pistons despite his hall of resume. You completely disregard pace, and how in today's MVP and previous versions there is usually 40-48 rebounding chances. You disregard how many players averaged high rebounding totals during this time. You bring up Jordan's attempts against the Pistons while it is mentioned how Jordan played against the Pistons (Hint: Very good) and completely locked up Isiah Thomas. You say how Jordan had better teammates yet ON THE FIRST PAGE there is a graphic of how he had so few all-star teammates. You act as if athleticism is this end all be all feat, yet Jordan had the highest vertical ever recorded in NBA history at 48, and I don't know where this 55+ inch vertical was ever recorded. If you could give me a legitimate source on this that would be great. The 550 bench press is more than likely just as much as an urban legend as him having sex with 10,000 women and not having a single kid, at least according to himself. Even stranger considering he does have a kid. Not only that, but only the most dedicated of lifters can lift 500 let alone a dude who was playing basketball every night. Besides this is NOT track and field, or Mr. Olympia, it's basketball. Athletic freaks do not get by in today's NBA on athleticism alone. Where is Tyrus Thomas? James White? Sonny Weems? In the D-League or barely holding onto a roster position. You bring up baseball and volleyball. In what world do these sports have anything to do with basketball? "Joe Gibbs is the greatest coach of all time because not only was he successful with the Redskins, he has one of the best NASCAR teams." Seem like a ridiculous argument? That's because it is. Wilt lead the league in total assists, not APG and that was through well known stat padding, only passing to people who would catch and shoot and during this time period he would avoid passing it to Chet Walker (one of his 3 HoF teammates) because he wouldn't get an assist from him.
You bring up his Wizard years where they were ON PACE to reach FIFTY wins with Jordan before his knee injury which I have told you was in my document. You bring up how they bring in players Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant who played 20 MPG and that somehow makes the Bulls a 50 win team, not because of Jordan's play, or the lack of cocaine users on his team, but because of two players, NEITHER OF WHOM, made the All-NBA Rookie team, who has the likes of Kenny Smith, Mark Jackson, Greg Anderson, Armen Gilliam, and Derrick McKey. No, Jordan couldn't get past the Pistons, with Scottie Pippen shitting the bed. Wilt Chamberlain couldn't get past the Celtics for almost HIS ENTIRE CAREER. ONE AND SEVEN AGAINST BILL RUSSELL'S CELTICS. You say the Bulls do worse when Jordan returns the second time, yet they faced the Magic, in the 2nd round taking them to game 6, when the Magic was not missing a key part of their starting lineup LIKE THE PREVIOUS YEAR, when Derek Harper was out for games 5 and 6. Not to mention that the Bulls were 34-31 without Jordan, yet mysteriously went 13-4 when he returned.
You bring Wilt's awards while Jordan matches them and exceeds them. You bring up records while Jordan holds more playoff records than Wilt, Russell, LeBron, Kobe, and Kareem COMBINED.
Don't even bring up scoring, when Jordan OUTSCORED him for his entire career, DESPITE playing 6000 less minutes.
Jordan averaged .404 points per possession, while Wilt averaged .259 over their careers.
You bring up defense while Wilt anchored the WORST team in the league when it came to defending teams in 61/62.
Don't even try to diminish Jordan's defense, he is arguably the greatest perimeter defender of all time. Here's your examples
There's plenty more if you want, just ask.
Now just for a kicker? Here is an article showing how the NBA would look the past 30 years if teams went at the breakneck pace of the 61-62 season
You're an idiot, for the love of god, please never attempt to talk to me again.0
https://youtu.be/tA6J2JinUVo https://youtu.be/uuLz0mWiCKA https://youtu.be/WEHyAOPSwBM
You once again didn't read my document, where many of these were addressed
I have gone through and picked apart your arguments 3 times. Maybe 4 hours of my life has gone into writing elaborate arguments you will never read because your head is up your ass. I could do this once again, but you wouldn't read it like you haven't before.
I'm never speaking to you again, you are either the greatest troll I've ever seen, or the biggest retard I have ever had the displeasure of speaking to.0
Read this, and then you'll understand why Jordan is overrated and hyped up by the http://zoomtens.com/espn-has-lied-to-you-ten-reasons-michael-jordan-is-not-the-greatest-nba-player-of-all-time/0
Wow, it's not like all of those were addressed in the document. Just because you're lazy and refuse to read it, doesn't mean it is not true.
Couldn't get the Wizards to the playoffs? That's one of the first things addressed in the document you dimwit.-2
"I am not saying that Michael Jordan is definitively not the greatest NBA player of all time, but there are several other players who could compete for that title."
"Bill Russell led his team to eleven championships" < You disagree with this.3
Red Auerbach did, it's like the Spurs, no one really leads because it's all about sharing the ball and stuff. Red was clever enough to realise, in an era where anyone was allowed to take just about any shot within half court without being told off, that his team didn't have a player who could carry them by taking all those bad shots, so he got them all involved in a way that was way before his time, way before triangle and swing motion etc. was invented. Russell was just another player in this system, on defense he was the leader, but not all around, that was the coach.1[] Flysenberg 1
Prime Nash averaged 18.6 PPG and 11.6 APG while shooting an insane, league leading 63% TS% in 35 MPG.
Jordan meanwhile averaged 30.4 PPG and 4.3 APG while shooting a 58% TS% (shortened 3 point line severely helped) in 38 MPG in 1996.
Harden averaged 27.4 PPG and 7.0 APG while shooting a 60.5% TS% in 37 MPG, even if his defense (which isn't even bad anymore) isn't as good as Jordan's his all around offensive output is so superior that it doesn't matter.
Davis isn't even debatable, defense isn't even an excuse with him and odds are he's gonna get better this season.11[] Flysenberg 11
Actually Jordan's defensive presence outweighs the offensive output from both players. MJ in 1996 was still the best two-way player in the league by a big margin. Harden's superior playmaking doesn't translate back to 2k attributes to have him higher than Jordan who was still an elite defender in all aspects and was absolutely money from the low post. Maybe not the same offensive output but a far superior offensive skillet. You can't just cite stats as reasoning for 2k ratings. Nash was a notoriously bad on ball defender and a non existent help defender, his defense was actually severely overrated this year.
The whole story isn't told by stats. Harden is a good player but you're out of your mind if you think he's comparable to MJ at any stage of his career besides the Wizards stint. I disn't think I'd need to even explain Davis. Great shot blocker but not as good of an all around defender. What Davis has over MJ in shot blocking, MJ has over Davis in steals. Davis' offensive skillset is vastly inferior.
Before you may be quick to call me a Jordan nuthugger, I actually don't like MJ, but I'm not going to start discrediting him as a player. 90 overall is ridiculous and thinking Nash was better than him in 1996 is honestly what seems to be the opunion of someome biased.5
Jordan has the 4th most all time points, highest career Player Efficiency Rating of all time, and has the most career points per game. If we're going by stats, which Klay is, the argument favors Jordan. He's also 3rd all time in steals. I'm a big Steve Nash fan, but he never was as good as Jordan. He was a better 3pt shooter and passer (free throw shooter as well), but Jordan was better at EVERYTHING else. Even though the whole story isn't told by stats as Flysenberg said, the stats favor Jordan.5[] Flysenberg 5
Not to mention that Jordan thrived in the Playoffs whereas Harden has now established a reputation for choking in the Playoffs in recent years. Harden isn't half the player MJ was.2
Also, Harden is the GOAT at turnovers... lol0
That's not an exaggeration btw, he is on pace to set the NBA record for turnovers in a season and he already has the record for turnovers in a playoff game1
I`m talking about 1996, prime Jordan beats those guys easily but 1996 Jordan doesn`t.3
There is literally no valid case you can make for that. Jordan's overall output is far superior to all of them.
- Harden is a good scorer, good passer, still a below average defender/Jordan was a better scorer, elite defender, was more athletic and had a low post game. You can't make any case for Harden over MJ. 10/10 GMs in the league today would take MJ from 1996 over a current Harden. I mean seriously what are you basing this off? Statistically the only advantage Harden has is in assists.
- Nash was a great outside shooter, great passer, piss poor defender/Jordan was just as good of a mid range shooter, FAR better defender, better rebounder, more athletic and once again vastly superior offensive skillset.
You're completely out of your mind if you think either of those guys were as good as MJ in 1996. Do you have some personal vendetta against MJ?3
Harden was a better scorer not just in PPG but in terms of efficiency as well, Harden shoots a higher TS% and doesn't have a shortened 3 point line to help, if you adjust MJ`s 3 point shooting to what it was before the line was shortened (to what it is today) he has around 5% lower TS%. Harden`s assist difference is comfortably more (4.3-7.0) and assumably more of his led to 3`s since the Rockets shot so many last season, if we use points responsible for or points + points worth of assists in other words (I`ll do it using 1 assist = 2 points, which would help Jordan for the already explained reason) Harden averages 2.4 more points responsible for per game than Jordan does, but again this would increase if adjusted for 3 point assists. Jordan re-joined the Bulls fully in 1996 and they won 27 more games than before, with HOFer Dennis Rodman joining the same season howether and since when Jordan left in 1993 the Bulls only lost 2 more games really that`s all you can judge it on, it seems a bit far fetched I`ll admit but I think it`s perfectly possible that Rodman added 20+ wins while Jordan added less than 10, based on the fact he never proved to be worth much over 10 wins before even when he was a much better player. When Harden joined the Rockets they win effectively 5 more games (lockout season makes this not 100%) but while losing guys like Kevin Martin and Kyle Lowry, that team was so weak that only Chandler Parsons finished with above average (15) PER among Hardens team mates (with 15.3), and with Harden they managed to comfortably be an above average team (45-37), compared to this season where of course he is even better they went 56-16 compared to 54-18 the year before, with Dwight Howard adding 9 wins onto that 45-37 team. Doesn't seem too amazing until you realise that they missed out on Howard half the season and several other players, in fact that team was so depleted that Donates Motiejunas played the third most minutes, almost 1000 behind Harden and Trevor Ariza (barley Scottie Pippen as a sidekick SF) who played 2900. Again apart from Howard in his rare games and Terrence Jones, who only played 33 games himself (even less than Howard) only 1 regular player finished with above 15 PER apart from Harden, a mid season trade acquisition, Josh Smith who also put up an insane -0.1 offensive WS ... So Harden took a team with basically no above average players to a 56-16 record and also basically made up for Dwight`s missed games, the thing that made it different from the season before. Jordan on the other hand had 2 team mates with above not only 15 but 20 PER (Pippen and Rodman) as well as Steve Kerr on an above average 15.2, how ether Kerr`s 6.0 offensive WS is "slightly" better than Smith`s (and shockingly his defensive WS was too)... For a Wilt fan I use a players effect on his team a lot in arguments, because it can surprise you how much effect some players really have.
Nash may seem like he didn`t contribute as much individually on offense if you use points responsible for he actually is slightly ahead of 1996 Jordan, in a few less MPG too so really he is about as far ahead as Harden. He also shot a brilliant 63% TS% which is about 5% higher than Jordan`s. While normally his efficiency would be the only argument points responsible for proves that this is defiantly not the case. In 2003-04 the Suns went a lowly 29-53 despite having talent such as Shawn Marion, Stoudemire, Joe Johnson and Leandro Barbosa as well as players such as Anfree Hardaway, Stephon Marbury and Antonio Mcdyess (and on a lesser extent Tom Gugliotta) who played 30-40 games each. When Nash joined the Suns they went 62-20 despite losing Hardaway, Marbury, Mcdyess and Gugliotta, if that isn`t impessive enough in 2006 they went 54-28, just as with Harden that doesn`t make 2006 Nash seem better than 2005 Nash, how ether as with Harden his all-star level big man was injured too, in this case for the whole season. Although they did add an in form Boris Diaw Nash carried the team to only 8 less wins than with Stoudeemire, when Stoudemire had come off of a season with a 26 PER, which was up by 6 from before Nash joined. You cant say he wasn`t clutch that year either as he led the Suns to 2 game 7 wins in the playoffs.
What i`m basically saying is that both of these players were all around better on offense and although their defense may not have been as good as Jordan`s they carried their teams far more and made a much bigger positive impact, and did it under difficult circumstances where they had to step up and lead.3
Also statistics are a shallow way of comparing players. I grew up watching Jordan and admired James Harden's efforts this year, but there's a vast, vast difference in their skill level just by looking at them. The eye test can go a long way too. The way Jordan absolutely hounded people on defense and managed to break away with a tipped pass in almost every passing lane doesn't show up on the stat sheet. This is why I keep stressing to you that Jordan's defensive presence is unmatched. He's one of the greatest on ball defenders in the history of the game and this stretched well into 1996. His decline on defense didn't begin until 1998 when he looked a little slower and even then his defense was still elite.3
>Harden was a better scorer not just in PPG but in terms of efficiency as well
Harden wasn't a better scorer in PPG though...He averaged 27ppg and Jordan averaged 30ppg.
As far as Harden's assist difference I don't feel that it puts it up ahead of MJ, because even though he may contribute more points on offense than MJ by distributing the ball more, he is also still a relatively below average defender meaning he would give up more points on the other end whereas MJ wouldn't. That's where that point of yours doesn't lean on Harden as much as you think.
Also, the shortened three point line boosting Jordan's 3P% is fair, but I've already explained to you that Jordan wasn't a bad outside shooter. Go through his totals per season and look at his attempts per season and then his percentages. Even on the standard regulation line, when Jordan shot a higher amount of threes he shot above the league average. His lowest percentage 3P% seasons he attempted less than 100 threes. Lets use the 1992 season specifically. He made 27/100 threes that season shooting 27%. Now let's assume for the sake of argument that 15 of those threes were end of quarter, end of shot clock situation attempts out of desperation which is pretty fair to assume due to the tiny sample size. He would have shot 27/75 on regular attempts which is 36% and above the league average. There's not a big enough sample size for those seasons to claim that MJ was a bad outside shooter as such a small number of shots across 82 games can skew the percentage drastically.
As far as the Bulls record after Rodman joined, that was an expansion season. All the greatest team records in NBA history happened during some point where the league brought in new teams. You can't attribute those extra wins to Rodman, as the Bulls had a super team in a point of league expansion. As far as the numbers go, that season Rodman has 6.2 win shares as compared to Jordan's 20.4 win shares. That kinda says enough doesn't it? Rodman also only played 64 games while MJ played all 82. Rodman being the bigger reason for that 72 win season is a complete myth and Jordan actually has more win shares from 1996 than Harden did last season meaning he contributed more wins to his team.
I didn't deny whatsoever that Nash was a better shooter than Jordan. Nash is arguably a top 3 shooter in NBA history. TS% isn't in any way some kind of definitive statistic to determine a player's value over another. Yes Nash contributed greatly to his team's record jumping drastically, thus why he won the MVP award, but once again doesn't mean he was better than Jordan. Do you think Curry was better than LeBron this season because he led a team to a better record?
The numbers prove that Jordan carried his teams more than both of them, especially Nash who has literally half the amount of win shares his MVP season compared to MJ in '96. You can bring up TS% and team records all you want but the definitive statistic determining who was a more valuable asset to their team is win shares, and Jordan blows them both out of the water because as I've tried to make clear to you many times, his defensive presence was far, far superior to any of the very small advantages they had over him on offense.2
Extremely well put.-1
Okay Klayyyyyy, give me a reason that those players are better than Jordan THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STATS.4
Well technically that`s impossible. It would also be impossible to prove Jordan`s better than them without some form of stat. Everything you can use is at least slightly statistical-1[] notoriousshaq -1
I don't think anyone in this NBA can even try to compete with MJ. Not even LeFlop.4
I think that Lebron can and will, as long as he doen`t have a career ruining injury or play s***.0
BRO you know how to start a storm dont you xD but seriously MJ was great.. but from seeing what they have brought out since card wise MJ has just been flooded with other talent I just feel although MJ was a wrecking ball which he was people should not be hyping up as much as they should alot of ballers have amazing seasons and work really hard and they are lost in the flurry of other players and hate yet people like MJ and Kobe just didnt take crap and made people know what they are about that is the difference-1[] TruEBalleR1225 -1
Are you in the US?0
? I meant the guy I replied to. Did it glitch and say I replied to you?1
uh huh anyway i am a HUGE FAN of yours. I cant belive the courage and patience you have to say all these true comments on MJ and Wilt. But i have a question. Where would you rank KING JAMES on a top players of all time. I have him at no 3 behind MJ and Wilt the Stilt. Thanks.1
No. 7 ATM, but that's because I don't want to put him too high, too early. He's on course for no. 2-4.0
what is your top 10 greatest players of all time1
1. Wilt
3. Magic
4. Kareem
5. Baylor
6. Big O
7. Lebron
8. Hakeem
9. Bird
10. Kobe0
You're my favorite user on this site. I agree with almost all of your comments. But what makes Baylor better then Lebron? I also don't think that Wilt is better then MJ. BTW congrats on getting MOD!2
Lebrons career still has 5-10 years to go, I don't want to put him too high too early. He's on course for 2-4 in the list.0
Wanna explain cuz that's one of the craziest top 10s 'ive ever seen1
? Everyone but Baylor are generally considered top 10-1500
I think its more the order.1
What about it?.0
yeah like why Wilt no.1 over Jordan. The guy played in one of the weakest eras of basketball and got dominated by the Celtics nearly every single playoff run. The guy was more of a stat sheet stuffer imo who played for stats instead of wins. I know you're a Wilt fan so no disrespect but no.1 is way too high in my opinion. Id also put Kobe over LeBron since Kobe's the greater champion and has delivered more during the playoffs and doesnt crumble under the pressure like Bron. He has the killer instinct Jordan has and has 5 rings over LeBrons 2.
I also like how u didn't put Bill Russell in your top 10 but you put your favorite player Wilt in there :)0
As much as i love your comments, 90 OVR is WAY to low, I would have went with maybe 95 to be more realistic.5
Made him hard to get so I guess maybe those ratings are OK.1
Sigh, you still havent learned.Show 8 replies...
Let me school you on how and why some stats differ from season to season.
You will quote some stat but dont take into consideration rule changes. Defense rules changed from 1996-2000. Starting with no hands allowed on defense followed by no forearms in 2000 season This completed changed the game and made most stats uncomparable pre and post.
No one talks about that.
If Jordan wanted to shoot 3's he would but he didnt need too. His pct are skewed because he always took the last shot end of shot clock and quarters. Every season he needed to shoot 3 s(the ones he shot over 200) are above 35%.
In 1989-90, teams said go head Jordan beat us from the outside. He went on to shoot over 245 and hit at 37% clip. Which was very good during the late 80's grabbing defense. Once 90s hit, the Bulls were the most dominate team in the NBA and 3s were not needed by him. He didnt attempt more than 1.2 a game until he turned 29.
Some say around the 30 year old mark is when your athletic abilities start to decline. Which would result in settling for more jumpers and less driving to the hoop. A 29 year old Jordan took 2.9 3s a game most since that 89-90 season and back upto 35%. From the ages 29-33 (missing a season to play baseball) Jordan would shoot the most 3s during any run of his career and go 319 for 819. A 39% clip.1
I`m talking about the whole card though, not just his 3 ball...
Ok he may not have been terrible at 3`s, but 89? Surely even you have to admit he deserves 80 at most. 37% still isn`t nearly as good as guys with a similar 3pt rating (JJ Redick, Eric Gordon).0[] msong12345 0
Can you check out my lineup? Thanks-1[] PittsburghSC -1
I get what you are doing for the site. The more BS you say about the greats the more people come back to the site to argue.
Smart man.0-1[] Shakespeare -1
if you truly believe jordan deserves a 89 three for ANY year, just delete your account fam. thats saying andre miller deserves a 99 block11
If Jordan wanted to shoot 3's he would but he didnt need too. His pct are skewed because he always took the last shot end of shot clock and quarters. Every season he needed to shoot 3 s(the ones he shot over 200) are above 35%.
In 1989-90, teams said go head Jordan beat us from the outside. He went on to shoot over 245 and hit at 37% clip. Which was very good during the late 80's grabbing defense. Once 90s hit, the Bulls were the most dominate team in the NBA and 3s were not needed by him. He didnt attempt more than 1.2 a game until he turned 29.
Some say around the 30 year old mark is when your athletic abilities start to decline. Which would result in settling for more jumpers and less driving to the hoop. A 29 year old Jordan took 2.9 3s a game most since that 89-90 season and back upto 35%. From the ages 29-33 (missing a season to play baseball) Jordan would shoot the most 3s during any run of his career and go 319 for 819. A 39% clip.
3[] 2kWiltGOAT 3
This isnt even Michaels best season, just cuz the bulls won 72 games doesnt mean this one should be the 99 overall. They should have picked an early 90s or late 80s one tbh. not sure which one tho, havent checked his stats in a while.
@tupac i kinda have a suggestion for this site : you should put like a random page button where u click on it and it sends u to a player, collection etc. idk something i just thought about3
PlannedShow 1 reply...0
What, Jordan should have a 99 3ball? Just give him a +9 shoe, you cheap morons.
i wonder who's going to get the 99 mid3
james nunnally will obvsShow 3 replies...0
besides him, fam0
maybe jason kapono or javale mcgee?1
I'd personally give it to James Michael McAdoo
Could anyone give me some lineup tips?
It took until May 12, but the first Youtuber has finally gotten this Rewards Jordan!!
i wish he comes in drafts
He need a buff in post hook because he is actually good in post hook against other players. Make his stats have at least couple 99 because he is a far better player than stephen curry. He is why everyone want to be like Mike.
1[] lucascass5 1
Yeah @Klayyyyyy I agree. He was pretty good though. You would think the GOAT would win MVP more than 5 times in 15 seasons. People probably think he is GOAT because our parents and stuff remember his time.
1[] kevinmirza 1
Who is almost close to getting this... I have 2374 cards1
Dang. I have 190 cards :/Show 1 reply...0[] kevinmirza 0
I got 2432 now... So close yet so far away
Great Player Overall !!
Do you get someones overall by doing sort of like an average of all their stats or can someone be like 78 ovr but have a bunch of good stats?
is jordan the only 99 overall
He definitely doesn't deserve the 95 driving dunk with a 60 contact dunk that year. He dunked on people way more earlier in his career but has lower contact dunk ratings. I don't know if there's anyone else who has that high of a contact dunk. But like someone else said for 2700 cards I want an MJ that does everything amazingly. I wanna put a diamond +9 speed shoe or a diamond 3 pt shoe on him once I get him and he'll be insane.
Wish I had money to do this
1[] wilsonzhou 1
2K should make a wizards Jordan
imagine accidentally quickselling this card...
People forget we are talking about the GOAT.6
They haven't released prime Wilt yet...Show 1 reply...1
Damn shame a 99 TBT Wilt wasn't released smh.
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Why doesn't MJ with 6 rings get the championship DNA badge, neither does Magic, or even Bill Russell with 11 rings but Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Kawhi get it with only 1 championship? Kinda dumb.0
And why does that badge mean you can also see where double teams are coming from, like winning championships is all about seeing where double teams come from? I mean I guess that's cool, and important, but it kinda seems random, and like it should be a separate badge altogether. And I wish they would tell us more about what exactly these personality badges do in game. For some it explains it, others not so much. Some help a lot, but a few don't even really explain what they affect.
99 ovr defending is ridiculously amazing.
@zemGOAT do u want upvotes or downvotes cause I'm upvoting everything but u said u wanted downvotes. So, what is it? BTW OKC currently up by 10 #thunderup
How is anyone going to score on him let alone get by him
Rate my lineup? http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/123394/richmond-rampagers
hi WAZZUPPP
0[] thefirstjb 0
Another one
can u rate my lineup please??0
Get rid of Cory Joseph for a big man, like 92 Deondre Jordan, you have to many guards and not enough big menShow 1 reply...0
i got the 93 howard instead, beast
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http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/242717/my-team#comment-159017 is a link to my lineup. PLease take a look and tell me who I should get.
This site is a hate site for the GOATs, he revolutionized the game, he invented the moves we see today and just because of that they call him overrated...morons3
why would people think less of MJ for inventing moves still seen today, surely that's a positive thing?Show 4 replies...-2
dude you still stalking me?... and I wrote this when I didn't know people like you on this site don't watch basketball.
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So people Care about curry having an 87 defense but it goes completely unrecognized that Jordan has a 93 three?! MJ shot around 33% from three for his career. Curry leads the league in steals and his defense is statistically worth 1.3 more wins than Lebron's defense. If anything should change, it should be Lebron's defense compared to Curry's. Curry's defense should be better than lebron's. This shows how many fucking haters there are for Curry and GS. So many people think there are more GS dick riders than haters but it's really the opposite. And does it not occur to anyone that MJ gets's his dick ridden ALOT more than Curry. Even though MJ probably was better than Curry, They shouldn't dick ride MJ anymore than Curry. Especially since we will never know how good MJ would do right now or how good Curry would do back then. Appreciate greatness and when you make a review, Make it for how effective it is in-game. Not how the card shouldnt have been created. MJ was a horrible 3pt shooter but his 3 pointer is only 6 points less than the greatest Shooter of all time (Curry). That's real dick riding. Not giving an 87 defense to Curry.0
I might be wrong, but I think you need every card in the game to get him.
@tupac is there any way you can open packs from last year? i know you can create lineups from last year though.
The G.O.A.T Deserves respect even though no one will get him because the game is dead still he deserves respect 99 OVR everything
Jordan has 12 cards but still don't has the wizards jordan...
Look at all the 99's!
This MJ is better than Sapphire Dr. J on 2k15...both were obtained by completing collections. But this is ridiculous. The hell is this? No quick fingers involved, but better than a PD from Nba2k15.
Anyone interested in a dynamic Kyrie Irving on ps4? He had gold deadeye and shot creator, along with 17 other gold badges. I was thinking about selling him for around 32-35k. He dominates in the gauntlet btw. Message me at pless2 on ps4 if you're interested. Thanks, and GO CAVS!!!!!
Is this card auctionable?
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@Klayyyyyy I want to discuss why you think Jordan is overrated I really do because I completely disagree... Really not because I want to prove he's the gratest I also want to know about why Wilt is being better than Jordan for you. I am not the kind of people who say Jordan is the best because of media hype and I don't listen to anyone if I'm not clear about it and if I don't believe it. So I bring everything before talking about a player. So bring it on, why is Wilt bettter than MJ for you?1
Their value to their respective team is enough alone.Show 11 replies...
Whenever Jordan joined or left the Bulls there was never more than a 10 game difference (apart from 1998 when Pippen and Rodman left too). When Wilt joined the Warriors they won 17 more games, when he left they won 32 less games!
I wouldn't take Jordan over Pippen or Rodman if I had a choice, I rank Jordan higher than them, but they were both more valuable to the Bulls than he was.1
A guy that speaks from stats <31
Stats don't lie0
I don't know how far your experience of the NBA extends but what is your view of Karl Anthony Towns I am quite the Timberwolves fan but I feel in his one season he has already outgrown us?0
In what way? As in you think he will want to move?0
Well I think he will be a big player in the NBA in the next few years do you feel that he will stay with TW or where do you reckon he will be? and if so what do you feel the progression of his general overall would be?0
With all the young talent you guys have I reckon he'll stay, I doubt he'll become a great scorer because Wiggins is being groomed for that, but overall he will probably be the best player on what might become a title contender.0
other than curry who would you say is dominating the current roster? (dont know your view on curry but as far as I dislike the hype it is starting to be the norm)0
In the whole league? I don't mind Curry BTW, find my thread about the "hater bandwagon" for more info.0
yeah in the whole league I mean I personally really like curry but the thing that puts me off him is that they cant accurately represent him as an in game player.. but he is amazing to watch play makes me want to get back into basketball but in the UK its dead.. xD1
Yeah I'm in the UK too and it's difficult to get into the NBA when all the games are at 2 in the morning...
The 3 players I'd build a team around right now are Curry, Lebron and KD. Guys like Westbrook, Harden and Cousins are great individually but aren't team players. For the future I'd take AD and KAT, no one else sticks out as a future MVP candidate yet.
just got to seed 1 in rttp, need help?
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I pulled him in a rainbow pack
Do not collect all those card's for this card
My Diamond T-mac is just as good
Michael Jordan was one of the legends of basketball and he tried his best every game and never gave up. He also made mistakes but he achieved his goals.
I wanna know all y'all know so much about these players that played so long ago and who all is better than who. I mean a lot of them finished their career probably a decade before some of you were prob born. How r u deciding who is better? Looking at stats, watching highlights, hearing what others have said? If you've never actually watched the players games, how can u even judge how good they actually were?1
1. Watching a player is innacurate as opinion of how good they are based off of it can vary, some people might think a player hitting a crazy contested shot is a great play, I'll probably just call it bad shot selection.
2. A player might look like they are playing great, but really they could be costing their team.
3. You can't compare Jordan to older players like Wilt if you've only seen Jordan play.
Wow, thanks 2k. I'm so glad you chose to update this card!....instead of cards people actually have
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0[] jack121314 0
Jordan's mouth is open in every single card
Why doesn't he have a price?0
Because you can't buy himShow 1 reply...0
Or because no one has sold him
not that good of card if in 2k17 tbh
Can you guys give me feedback on what to do with my lineup? Thanks
Ratings are way too juiced up. He was not a better athlete here than in the other, younger versions. His playmaking should not be that high. (A 97 pass IQ? Really?) That three is too high. Yes, he shot like 43% but that's pretty common. And he does not boxout very often. Yes, I do agree that he is one of, if not, the greatest of all time, but you have to stick to more realistic attributes. well, i guess if you collect 2700 cards, it's pretty fitting.
0[] winterau23 0
would someone be able to tell me the strategy to gain more mt
Same three as Bird
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the goat
this card is better than the 99 lebron
If anyone reads this on ps4 I'm willing to wager Paul George
slowly becoming pink diamond jordan
only 83 free throw?
wait when did the 3pt stat change to 93??
i got him in my collection
the 2kmtcentral collection
as much as jordan is cool and all theyre are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many jordan cards in this game0
12 is too muchShow 5 replies...0
only 6 of them are real. The rest are hidden fake players0
hidden for now it just means they havent released them yet0
I don't think so. None of those hidden fake players have been released yet, for all players. I don't think any are getting released
What are the odds of getting this card? 98 MJ I've seen like 5 times in Draft Box. 99 Kobe is a piece of cake.1
You can't get him in a draft box.Show 2 replies...0
Collect +2700 cards and you'll get him
If you compare this card to his other 99 card, you can tell this could would be a 100 if that was possible!
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Why does it say the sell value is 1500? You can't quicksell reward cards...
someone let me know when the get him
People already have this card smfh
tity fuck
I'm kinda new to the site and I would like to know if there's a way to view the total number of cards available in-game? I'm going hard for this card and I would like to know if it's possible to get him now. Thanks in advance. :)
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yo can somone buy my 94 d-wade cuz that shit aint selling its for 60250 and my 90 marc Gasol for for 20500 please i want packs
#333 I made the like number 333 illuminati!!!
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Oh my lord they made this card better..
0[] imblack123 0
he's worth 1 mil
I pulled this guy 3 times in collector packs.
i have a suggestion: you guys should add more packs, like the mvp packs and the moments packs. plz 2k central.
0[] john_foxer 0
Pls comment http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/515834/my-lineup
It took until the first of May, but the first person has finally gotten this Diamond Michael Jordan!0
CashNasty uploaded a video a few months ago with someone who had this card.Show 1 reply...0
Ik I saw it, but I don't think it was legit.
he is a god NBA legend
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0[] njkrazykop 0
Great, another card that only pack opening youtubers or people who spend money on the game can get
Michael Jeffrey Jordan (born February 17, 1963), also known by his initials, MJ,[3] is an American retired professional basketball player. He is also a businessman, and principal owner and chairman of the Charlotte Hornets. Jordan played 15 seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA) for the Chicago Bulls and Washington Wizards. His biography on the NBA website states: "By acclamation, Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time."[4] Jordan was one of the most effectively marketed athletes of his generation and was considered instrumental in popularizing the NBA around the world in the 1980s and 1990s.[5]
Jordan played three seasons for coach Dean Smith at the University of North Carolina. He was a member of the Tar Heels' national championship team in 1982. Jordan joined the NBA's Chicago Bulls in 1984 as the third overall draft pick. He quickly emerged as a league star, entertaining crowds with his prolific scoring. His leaping ability, demonstrated by performing slam dunks from the free throw line in slam dunk contests, earned him the nicknames "Air Jordan" and "His Airness". He also gained a reputation for being one of the best defensive players in basketball.[6] In 1991, he won his first NBA championship with the Bulls, and followed that achievement with titles in 1992 and 1993, securing a "three-peat". Although Jordan abruptly retired from basketball before the beginning of the 1993–94 NBA season to pursue a career in baseball, he returned to the Bulls in March 1995 and led them to three additional championships in 1996, 1997, and 1998, as well as a then-record 72 regular-season wins in the 1995–96 NBA season. Jordan retired for a second time in January 1999, but returned for two more NBA seasons from 2001 to 2003 as a member of the Wizards.
Jordan's individual accolades and accomplishments include five Most Valuable Player (MVP) Awards, ten All-NBA First Team designations, nine All-Defensive First Team honors, fourteen NBA All-Star Game appearances, three All-Star Game MVP Awards, ten scoring titles, three steals titles, six NBA Finals MVP Awards, and the 1988 NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award. Among his numerous accomplishments, Jordan holds the NBA records for highest career regular season scoring average (30.12 points per game) and highest career playoff scoring average (33.45 points per game). In 1999, he was named the greatest North American athlete of the 20th century by ESPN, and was second to Babe Ruth on the Associated Press's list of athletes of the century. Jordan is a two-time inductee into the Basketball Hall of Fame, having been enshrined in 2009 for his individual career, and again in 2010 as part of the group induction of the 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team ("The Dream Team").
Jordan is also known for his product endorsements. He fueled the success of Nike's Air Jordan sneakers, which were introduced in 1985 and remain popular today.[7] Jordan also starred in the 1996 feature film Space Jam as himself. In 2006, he became part-owner and head of basketball operations for the then-Charlotte Bobcats, buying a controlling interest in 2010. In 2015, as a result of the increase in value of NBA franchises, Jordan became the first billionaire NBA player in history and the world's second-richest African-American.
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-1[] ChrisSmoove27 -1
This Card IS Better than Kobe's 99 overall card wow really 2k?!!?
Please help me with my lineup. Much appreciated
One of the worst players IMO
-1[] pancake71912 -1
Are you kidding me? They updated him and made him even more OP???1
ok i thought kobes 98 rated card was better but after this update this card is so much cheesierShow 2 replies...-1[] pancake71912 -1
I mean, since it takes 2700 cards to get this card (in other words, hundreds of dollars worth of VC), I can understand why they made this card so juiced. But this card is just....
Curry-esque shooting from outside
Best defender in 2k
Extremely athletic
Can dunk like no other and draw contact
Post fade cheese
and solid rebounding for a guard.
Why is he always 99?
-1[] $MoneyMan$ -1
Gives Mj a 99 defense overall yet not a 99 inside scoring or athleticism?
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-1[] Dahmerville666 -1
This is literally impossible to get. As of now, there are 2707 cards in the entire game. It takes 2700 to get MJ. That means that the cost of MJ is the sum of basically every single card in the game. Haven't done the math but that's gotta be close to 200 million mt. Screw 2k
You saying the best 3pt specialist was Curry??? In the history of the NBA??? Come on manShow 25 replies...1
Who's better? Obviously he hasn't been around as long but he's already got the top 2 seasons in 3 pointers made at a higher percentage than anybody close to him.0
They're also almost all off the dribble which is much harder. Don't be ignorant.0
Seriously tho u gonna get a lot of hate for saying curry is the best 3pt shooter in the history of the game... Good luck0
Yeah I care what uneducated people think.1
I would say that Steve Kerr and Hubert Davis are the best 3pt specialists with the greatest percentages, but Curry is up there, top 5 at least-1[] jblackman76 -1
Look at their shot selection vs Curry. They were spot up shooters who took wide open looks. Half of Curry's 3s are off the dribble with someone in his face.1
Paul Pierce?-1[] jblackman76 -1
None of1
Reggie Miller?0
These guys1
Ray allen?0
Take the shots Curry does. Plus he makes more at a higher percentage.0
The BEST 3pt specialist is not Curry, there is no way that he is. Steve Kerr was probably the best 3PT SPECIALIST to ever play the game.0
Like I said, Kerr took only open spot up jumpers. If that's all Steph Curry did, I'm sure he would make a higher percentage than he does now. Kerr would not be able to make the shots Curry does, yet Curry could make the shots Kerr used to make.0
Just looked on the link you gave me, and it says Curry shoots 48.6% on spot up 3 pointers. Again, at more per game than Kerr.0
Where did you get those stats?0
Where on there does it say 90% on spot up shooting?0
Also for playoff 3 point percentage, Curry is at 41% while Kerr is at 37% on again 1.8 attempts per game vs 9.9 per game for Curry.0
For their careers so far, Kerr only averaged taking 1.8 3's per game while Steph averages 6.5. Of course it's easier to make more 3's when you're only taking 2 per game because you can pick and choose the most wide open looks. Curry has to take more because he's the top scoring option on his team which Kerr would never have been able to do.1
actually curry is better than kerr but people always forget about who shoots nearly 50% on 3s kyle korver is the most accurate shooter0
That doesn't mean that Steph Curry isn't a god player, hell, he might be the best 3pt shooter off of the dribble but he isn't the G.O.A.T of all 3pt specialists, no matter what shots he takes0
Okay, he is the best all-around player that is a 3-Point Specialist. Do you really expect 2k to give Steve Kerr a 96 OVR?
-2[] whitemamba3 -2
-3[] allancho04 -3
Whats the fuss about this GOAT thing. NO one is GOAT. ONLY GOD IS. Geez guys. Michael Jordan gave in a big contribution to the NBA. Everyone did like Magic. Larry, Carl, etc. This is how the NBA is formed. Changes made by great players. I pretty sure this will get like 800 downvotes. Go ahead downvote this and just continue arguing with this crap. But honestly there is no goat.1
except for the man, the myth, the legend
Brian Scalabrine0
His 3rd season in the league he averaged 37 ppg. He has 5 MVPs and every time he went to the NBA finals not only did he never play a game 7 he also got Finals MVP every time. He has two three-peats...he had to beat magic johnson, James worthy, clyde drexler, patrick ewing, charles barkley, john Stockton karl malone....he retired after his first three peat and played minor league baseball...came back two years later and got another three-peat, retired again in 1999 and came back to play for the Wizards from 2001 to 2003. So a total of four years he missed out on because he was so good. MJ is 4th on the all time scoring list with a little over 32000 points whilst missing out on 4 seasons that he could have added to his total points. Moral of the story MJ is the G.O.A.T and always will be. There is no conversation that MJ is not the G.O.A.T...if you believe otherwise than you are in denial and must not be allowed to have intelligent conversations about the NBA
-4[] Hufflepuff56 -4
Raye my team please. http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/265950/myteam
-5[] bigmanpindus -5
-5[] basketball41 -5
He sucks, overrated
-6[] Jayhawk123 -6
Are you fucking serious? 93 Standing Shot 3pt?????? WTF???? I know that collecting cards should get you something good, but this is outrageous!!!!!! A Jordan card this early in the game should NOT have a 93 3pt rating. Drink bleach Ronnie.0
Idk what your problem is. He shot nearly 43% 3'pts in 95/96. WELL DESERVED.0
Collect 2700 cards.Show 15 replies...-1
i meant to say that1
Exactly. You know how hard it is to collect 2700 cards? And you're complaining that this card has a 93 standing shot 3pt... SMH.-1
He made 1.4 per game that season. Also, check out the other '96 Jordan that is not going to be released. Same year. This card is just an upgraded Jordan of that year. You need to read @mahone2204 top comment. Like I said, collecting 2700 is pretty f*cking hard unless you're LosPollosTV0
How much money has los spent on my team 2k16 u think?-1
This is just 2k being more unrealistic. 89 3pt was high enough for Jordan.
-6[] kozmogames -6
How the hell is he the ONLY99 in this game?
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-15[] TheProdigyTv -15
Jordan is the most over hyped player i hate him because he gives no credit to no one else as far as im concerned please correct me if im wrong he had a lot of help from scottie and dennis who was getting almost 20 boards a game he doesnt credit them and couldnt have won 6 rings without them its proven jordan struggled without scottie and pippen on the court and still to this day he gives them no creds meanwhile lebron one of the most humble players said he gives all credit to the heat orginazation jordan imo is not all that good just glory him too much because he could score lebron could probably average 50 a game if he wanted but he doesnt cuz hes a team player lebron is one of the best passers in the league cmon now no way a player deserves this many cards when hes only won 6 rings if rings matter bill russel should be a 100 overall with 99 everything because he has 5 more rings than jordan jordan is overhyped... hate all you want3
"lebron one of the most humble players"Show 5 replies...
That's one of the most laughable statements I've ever seen.-2
How is he not humble? Did he ever call himself the GOAT? He always gives credit to his teammates, and you don't hear him complain about his 07' team which frankly if it had another solid player could win the title (didn't say would but could), while Jordan was known to disrespect his teammates.1
Jordan never called himself the GOAT until sometime after his 4th championship
This is why Lebron isn't humble
"That's why I should be Defensive Player of the Year. One-through-five. Started off on DeAndre, guarded Darren Collison that one possession, so, you know. No one has ever done this before."
Going by Lebron's non-spectacular defense and how he claims that he is the only person to do this despite Dennis Rodman having played good defense on Magic while being arguably being the post defender of all time is fairly ridiculous.
Also his Cavaliers teams are never given their due on defense. His Cavs teams were typically top 5 in PPG allowed (defense is typically a team effort and scarcely are there players that are defensive anchors that will ruin a team on defense if they leave, and Lebron is not one of them, there are statistics to back this up)
That's besides the point though, he isn't humble, and that isn't a knock on Lebron. Most sports players aren't humble. Besides why would Lebron be humble? He's been a top 5 player in the league since 2006 (and you can make a case for 2005 although I wouldn't go that far), and had a good run as the best player in the world. Why would he be humble about himself?
Also Jordan usually lent credit to his teammates during post-game interviews. He was fiercely competitive which caused him to be a giant dick at times during practices, but that's what simultaneously made him great and his teams great. Don't spread misinformation.
There's nothing wrong about not being humble when you're really good, but don't give someone credit for something they are not.00
Wow, so you take a view tidbits of interviews and come up with that conclusion that he's not humble. That itself is hilarious, there's a difference between saying "I'm the GOAT" vs "I'm the best player in the world" And if Jordan is so humble what the hell happened in his HOF speech? Lebron consistently says "We" throughout the whole interview. He always gives his teammates credit, not sure what world you're living in.
Non-spectacular defense? Lebron typically guards the best player on the opposing team. But yea his defense is terrible.
I'm not a Lebron fan, but I hate when people try to downplay his accomplishments and attack who he is as a person.
There's nothing wrong about not being humble when you're really good, but don't give Jordan credit for something he's not.0
Did I ever say Jordan was humble? That's an even more laughable statement than Lebron being humble.
Also, yes, I do use tidbits of interviews to say that Lebron isn't humble. I will make conclusions on you, based on what you say. That's just basic human nature. I don't personally know Lebron, but he has done a hell of a lot of interviews and he definitely seems sure of himself. It's not bad that he isn't humble, but saying he is humble, is just not true in the slightest.
And yes, non-spectacular defense. I can guard the best player on the opposing team. You can. Anyone can. Doesn't mean, me or you, can do it well. Same thing with Lebron.
Besides, if he guards the best player then please, tell me this. Steph Curry shot 13/22 on 36 points with 12 assists against the Heat in 2013/2014. The next game against the Heat that season he shot 8/14 on a perfect 4/4 from 3 with 7 assists. Who was guarding him? Either A) He wasn't guarding him because that would've been a bad assignment or B) He was and he got lit up. Anyways, how about this
2012 NBA Finals, Lebron's first ring. Certainly not Kevin Durant's fault considering he upped his production from 28.5 PPG on 52% in the regular season to 30.6 PPG on 55%. Tony Parker averaged 24.5 PPG on 57% in the 2007 NBA Finals (If Lebron guarded the best player, he once again, got torched). 2014 NBA Finals. Kawhi Leonard goes from 13 PPG on 52% shooting, to 23.7 PPG on 69% shooting, in games 3-4-5, the most important games of the whole season. Now here's my personal favorite. Antawn Jamison averaged 19.8 PPG on 45% in the regular season. He averaged 32 PPG on 48% shooting against Lebron's Cavaliers in the playoffs. They were both SF's, either Lebron wasn't guarding him, or Antawn made him look foolish. Carmelo Anthony in 2012, averaged 22.6 PPG on 43% shooting. Against the Heat, he averaged 27.8 on 42% shooting. Finally, this lovely ESPN infographic from the 2014 Eastern Conference Finals. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hsCiyxQPf4g/VfYT2k4OCbI/AAAAAAAACu8/XbOhoY5G-ek/s1600/BLN22gOCYAAXLoV.jpg
So yes, Lebron's defense is unspectacular. Now, he has had his good moments (4th quarter defense on Rose, 2013 NBA Finals), but he certainly does not deserve the massive praise he gets for it. He is a solid 1-1 defender, and nothing more.0
"lebron could probably average 50 a game if he wanted" Ummmm..... No definitely not. His highest scoring game is only 61 points...Show 1 reply...-1[] TheProdigyTv -1
because hes a team player
-18[] thefirstjb -18
People on 2kmt central need to stop throwing the word goat all willy nilly like scalbrini and lbj the true GOAT IS MICHAEL JORDAN-2
Statistically Jordan isn't GOATShow 31 replies...2[] Jeremy9096 2
statistaclly i fucked ur dad-2
Where do you live?1
ur house-2
Oh, oh! I've got it! It's one of those family tricks right? So you're meant to my dad!0
Hangout with your mom?-2
IDK. If you want to travel across the atlantic ocean to meet my mum that`s your choice...


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$3,332 2 bed 165 W Superior 2/2, Chicago IL, 60654
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The Birmingham Bobcats Softball Club is a volunteer-led club based in Edgbaston. The team consists of 40 members of all ages, nationalities and backgrounds. The Bobcats are the only softball team in the city and are leading the way in the sport in the West Midlands. The Bobcats were established in 2010 and are increasing in both popularity and membership. In February 2012 the Bobcats were awarded the British Softball Federation's President's Club Award for substantial club development.
What is Softball?
Softball first started in the late 19th century as an indoor version of baseball. It has changed a lot since then - you will have noticed the ball is no longer soft. The Bobcats play a version of softball called slow-pitch 'co-ed' (male and female players), which is suitable for all abilities. It is an extremely social sport – team spirit is key. Slow-pitch softball is growing swiftly in the UK - there are 24 teams in Bristol and 30+ teams in Manchester. The teams are graded due to their appropriate skill level from A to D and Recreational. The Bobcats are C/D level. Tournaments of all levels are held outdoor throughout the UK from April to October. Aside from tournaments there are also Leagues, which are held between local or regional teams. These can be competitive, friendly or both!
Who runs the Bobcats?
The club is run by a committee of dedicated and enthusiastic volunteers. The 2011-12 committee include the following:
- Alex Levine, Chair: The Chair is the principal representative and spokesperson of the club and is responsible for the overall management and strategic direction of the club.
- Justin Evans, Secretary: The Secretary is responsible for appropriate and accurate documentation of the club.
- Debbie Evetts, Treasurer: The Treasurer oversees the accounts and ensures the financial stability of the club.
- Kate Page-Smith, Tournament and Marketing Manager: The Tournament and Marketing Manager organises tournaments and additional softball events (including leagues and friendly games) and manages the marketing and publicity strategies of the club.
- Sapin Patel, Operations Manager: The Operations Manager is responsible for the general operation of the club (venues, equipment, coaching etc).
Who are the Coaches?
The Coaching team is led by the Head Coach, Quentin Young. The assistant coaches include Meg Gallahan, Sapin Patel, Pete Burgess and Kate Page-Smith.
Who are the Umpires?
In early 2012, the Bobcats sent three members on a BASU umpiring course. These include Alex Levine, Reinout Mildner and Chad Farmer.
Is there a Softball governing body?
Yes. There is a quango attached to SportEngland called BSUK (Baseball Softball UK). You may meet Will Lintern at training sessions – he is our Midlands Regional Representative – and also the GB Junior Baseball Coach. A branch of BSUK is BSF (British Softball Federation). To play with the Bobcats you must sign up for their website - http://www.britishsoftball.org/ This will keep you updated with all the latest news and insure you with BSF.
Training sessions
The Bobcats hold training sessions every Thursday night at Hallfield School Playing Fields from April to October. For further details please go to the Training Page. In 2012, we are starting a new endeavour - the Intra-Bobcat League. For 6 weeks from the end of June the team will be divided equally into several teams, each led by two coaches (captains). Further details about the league and the training sessions will be provided soon. We also hold indoor training sessions in the winter.
Anyone is welcome to join the Bobcats. If you are interested to see what we do please visit our website (www.westmidsoftball.com) for further details. We are always seeking new players and would love to hear from you.
Who are the TourCats?
The TourCats were established in 2011 and are a touring team. Each year the TourCats visit a different European country for a friendly tournament. In 2012 the TourCats are off to Cologne for a three-nation tournament.
Social Events
The Bobcats are a very sociable team. In addition to tournaments the club also holds other social events including an End of Season Awards and a Christmas party. After training each Thursday the Bobcats retreat to a local pub for a post-training drink and dinner.


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These classes are offered on Sunday mornings from 9:15am-10:15am.
Old Testament Class
Meets in the Library
For the fall the OT class will continue the in-depth study of the "The Egyptian Hallel' we started last spring. The Egyptian Hallel, consisting of Psalms 113-118 is sung during the Passover meal, the first two at the beginning and the last four at the end. Because these Psalms are sung when celebrating the Passover Seder, and because they are called "The Egyptian Hallel", it is clear that their main subject is redemption. Now because we did notcomplete the study of the "Hallel" last spring we will continue to do so this fall.
Also because this study was so well received last spring, we will add the following Psalms to this study: Ps. 3; Ps. 18; Ps. 22; Ps 18; Ps 51, Ps. 110 and possibly others.
This class will be taught by Hans Blom.
This class is an opportunity for Christians to come together and share how they rely on, or question, their faith in God as they work through the trials and tribulations of everyday life. The format is unplanned, encouraging members to raise topics that are most important in their lives. Scripture, life experience, and the encouragement of others are the tools used to explore how God works in our lives. Led by Dave Lennert and Dan Moore.
STICKY FAITH CLASS: a look at everyday ideas to build lasting faith in your kids
Meeting from Sunday, September 11 - Sunday, October 2, 2016 (4 weeks)
Come for a look at everyday ideas to build lasting faith in your kids. Based on the book, Sticky Faith by Dr. Kara E. Powell and Dr. Chap Clark the class will look at ways we can help prepare our children to have a faith that sticks with them throughout their life. This class should give insight into spiritually supporting our kids in all stages of life. Led by Amy Gupta.
For more information on these classes or other adult education opportunities contact:
Rev. Wayne Smith at firstname.lastname@example.com or
Pastor Mark Mathis at email@example.com