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ForumsGetting Things Done®Why not full GTD support?
Why not full GTD support?
Posted: May 23, 2011
With GTD having enough interest to warrant it's own forum section and given the posting volume here, could that be a sign that Toodledo should consider enhancements that fill in the gaps in GTD support?
Most, if not all, of the disscussions here revolve around working around a small set up limitations. There have been many alomst complete solutions devised by the community, but why not begin a discussion of feature enhancements to complete the GTD implementation?
Andrew A
Define GTD? I think that sort of answers the question in its own way. TD is flexible and allows a variety of approaches towards task management.even within GTD there are flavors and approaches.
For example, when you view other GTD web sites, they always seem to have an inbox... but that makes no sense to me and seems a waste of real estate. Why would I need an "inbox" in this digital management system since anything I took the time to forward or type I could take the same time to file and assign a context and project to? That is, and I forget which book it is mentioned in, is basically, filing now to file later... and a non-GTD thing to do. But many people desperately either use them or think they need them.
But I'm not harping, just providing an alternative view to the flexibility.
*we all have inboxes outside of TD, e-mail, voice mail, paper, just don't need it in here is my point
This message was edited May 24, 2011.
Posted: Jun 15, 2011
The inbox is where anything enters the system, in ToddleDo or otherwise.
If you do not use an inbox, you are either not adhering to GTD's primary guiding principle of free-form capture, or you are capturing everything in another inbox and not placing them into TD until a weekly review time.
I am not talking about forcing a system on TD, I am talking about adding some features as options. Those that do not wish to use them can disable them (like an inbox). But, the inbox is not the problem: they are mostly in the area of Projects.
If you look through the majority of this forum, most of the discussions revolve around solving a small set of missing features.
There are many different workaround solutions that have been proposed, but most are just different attempts to solve the same small set of problems.
This message was edited Jun 15, 2011.
I am a long-time adherent of GTD (10+ years), and strictly adhere to its guidelines. With this in mind, I've been using TD for going on three years and have not had an issue with a strict implementation of GTD.
When I think of "In-Box" I actually have several. These are nothing more than physical (inbox on my desk) or virtual (email accounts) locations where I collect and PROCESS stuff. In TD, I have a folder titled, "In Box" I use for collecting ideas and projects that I think of on the go, but don't have time to process at the moment.
If I have an email that I'm forwarding to TD, I will process it then, so that it goes into the correct folder and tagged appropriately. I don't see a need to forward an email from one 'In Box' to another 'In Box,' just to re-process.
Please keep in mind, before all this electronic gadgetry, GTD was simple pen and paper in a loose-leaf notebook; still the most elegant solution around. If all my electronic wizardry was gone tomorrow, I'd have no problem going back to pen and paper in a 3 ring binder. TD is nothing more than an electronic 3 ring binder with some really cool divider tabs with lists:
-List of projects that I have made a commitment to accomplish 2-5 months out
-List of next actions sorted by context (I use tags)
-List of waiting for (I use tags of people I'm waiting on)
-List of someday/maybe: list of projects that 'someday' I will do, but not in the next 2-5 months, and whatever else I might want to park here from now till infinity...
And last, the proverbial "In Box" list of stuff that I've captured to get it out of my head. If I think of an idea or say I'm at a home show and see a nice gazebo and think to myself, "That would look good in my backyard." I'll take a picture of it and pull up TD on my phone or iPad and make a note in my 'In Box' Gazebo at home show.
The next time I get to processing all my in boxes, often daily but at least weekly, I'll process my entry of Gazebo at home show. I may delete it, I may move it to Someday/Maybe, or I may make it a project. If I'm not sure I want to commit to it, I'll make it a project anyway, and my very first next action to move this forward, is to decide on whether or not I want to commit to this. This will usually generate more next actions either as questions to be answered or things to accomplish.
I do all of this very effectively within the constraints of TD. I don't even use half of the bells and whistles TD offers. In my experience, and I've been a GTDer for over a decade, it's not the list manager. And I've probably used or tried them all: Palm pilots, Gmail, RTM, Nozbe, GTD plug-ins for outlook, Life Balance, even that new one Proximo left TD for (no likey), Black Berry aps, various iPhone and iPad aps, etc. It's usually the user misunderstanding the principals of GTD, unable to shift their old and archaic ways of time management, or both (and I'll be the first to say I'm guilty of both) to a new way and **learning to trust the system David Allen proposes** I'm not saying one has to follow GTD to the letter. I've have found now that when I stop over thinking it and just do it, I'm far more productive.
Michael Crouse
Posted: Jun 16, 2011
Well said Lance.
I've used TD for 2 years now and really happy about it. There is one thing I miss that Omnifocus got. Tasks in project automatically gets the status "Next action" when the preceding task is finished.
Project X
task 1
task 2
task 3
task 2 becomes next action when task 1 is finished.
This shortens, makes it easier, the list of relevant tasks to tackle.
To bad Omnifocus sucks on Mac worshipping and off-line mantra.
Even more perfect would be the opportunity to define a dependency graph. Rather than a strict linear order, as +brigten proposes, a partial order would be more appropriate.
Sometimes several next actions may be available at the same time. Similarly, sometimes a task is dependent on more than one other tasks being completed first.
I have no delusions that this will actually be implemented. I understand that it would be too complicated for the average user. But it would make my life so much easier. :-)
Posted by Lance:
If I have an email that I'm forwarding to TD, I will process it then, so that it goes into the correct folder and tagged appropriately.
I didn't know you could do that. Would you mind sharing how?
Terry, if you go to http://www.toodledo.com/tools/index.php you'll see an option for setting up an email address to which you can send tasks. You use certain syntax (@,#,*, etc.) in front of the context, name of the task, etc. This all goes in the subject of the email and the syntax will tell TD exactly what to do with the task (context, which folder, due date, etc.). The key is at http://www.toodledo.com/info/help_email.php.
Posted by reedj:
Terry, if you go to http://www.toodledo.com/tools/index.php you'll see an option for setting up an email address to which you can send tasks. You use certain syntax (@,#,*, etc.) in front of the context, name of the task, etc. This all goes in the subject of the email and the syntax will tell TD exactly what to do with the task (context, which folder, due date, etc.). The key is at http://www.toodledo.com/info/help_email.php.
Just to jump in this conversation. One VERY cool thing in Gmail (if you happen to use it for your email) is that when you are viewing an email, the current web address is a direct link to that email. So many times I will copy the link and put it in the body of the email and send it to Toodledo. Then I can jump right to the email if I need to respond. The coolest part is that even if you label or archive the mail, it work with that same link.
Posted: Sep 12, 2011
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There are two very simple things that would make Toodledo MUCH more friendly for me. One is a GTD issue, one a more general one.
Firstly, the general issue: can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get nesting folders (to arbitrary depth)? Now this can be easily framed in the context of GTD; a major tenet of GTD philosophy revolved around having a solid system for organizing\filing all your stuff. Now if you live a relatively simple life, then your organization system may not need any more than a single layer of folders. But imagine if you owned 3 separate businesses, you were a musician active with 2 or 3 bands, and you were also keeping track of things with your home life and relationship with your significant other, all in GTD. It's very easy to see how a single level of folders might not be sufficient to keep everything organized in a meaningful and easy-to-deal-with way. And this isn't an entirely improbable example; it's actually my life. I need a top level of folders to separate each business, my music stuff, and my personal life. Then each business for example needs to separate activities related to acquiring new clients vs. maintaining existing ones, conferences and self-development activities, relationships with associates, vendors and suppliers, etc. And each of those might have further subdivisions. Having a long, flat list of folders to scroll through every time I want to file away or find a task is extremely cumbersome and time-consuming for something that I am supposed to be making second nature to virtually every thought I have in my daily life.
Secondly, a little more GTD specific but also applicable more generally, is the way subtasks are implemented. The main problem is that to effectively use Toodledo with GTD, one needs to use top-level tasks to represent projects, and subtasks to represent what GTD calls "tasks." This is an issue because Toodledo does (IMHO) a rather poor job of displaying tasks and subtasks together wherever they appear. The choices are to display them inline, where tasks are visually divorced from the projects they belong to, or indented, which produces a very unintuitive behavior when you see the subtask from a search or view other than the folder it resides in. In this case you initially see the subtask with an icon that lets you know it has a parent task, but the parent task doesn't initially display until you actually click on the tree icon to un-collapse it. When you recollapse it, then the parent task (and not the subtask that actually met the search or view criteria) shows. This is very clumsy behavior and totally counter-intuitive.
Between these two things, it becomes an exercise in hacking and working around the system to make it behave instead of just using it as a natural extension of my mind, the way a paper-based system would behave (although not be anywhere nearly as portable or quick to access). I think a much better implementation would be to introduce the concept of a "project" that a task can reside in, just as tasks currently can reside in folders. Searches and views can display either tasks or projects or both at the user's discretion, and when tasks display, their parent projects would display if they have one(the way a task's parent folder now displays).
These two things would VASTLY improve Toodledo for the serious GTDer, while not necessarily adding any extra complexity for those that don't need them (just don't use projects or nested folders if you don't need them).
Thoughts, comments, concerns, death threats?
Folke X
I have no concerns about your suggestions, but I must confess they are nothing I have a deep need for.
Subtasks as such I do not like. I haven't even tried them here in TD, but I did use both multi-level subtasks and multi-level folders in a system called Todoist. Todoist did this quite well, but what I noticed clearly was that this way of working didn't suit me. It got too detailed (my own fault). Also, subtasks would really require a lot of parameters to get them to always get sorted and displayed automatically the way you would like them to in all the different kinds of output lists. I think no system has this functionality, but, obviously, if TD could manage to do this in a useful way then TD would be even stronger.
I now rely on "manual" "sub-tasking", using regular tasks only. I use Goals as project names, and I have a special tag for the "header" task (project description). In some saved searches I include just the header tasks, whereas in some I include only "real" tasks, depending on what the list is for.
What I also do a lot is keep it as simple as possible. I have noticed that many types of projects I can handle without explicitly writing down all the steps. Sometimes a single task can represent a whole project, and I can modify the task name for each step if I need to remember more easily where I am at the moment. And the task notes are useful for keeping all kinds of comments and checklists etc - only when I need to remember something separately I create a separate task for it.
But we are all different ...
This message was edited Sep 12, 2011.
I miss an owner to delegate tasks. I have to use tags with the name of people.
I miss also the posibility to change the name of "folders" ("carpetas" in Spanish) and call them projects or any other way.
I miss the possibility of creating new fields.
This message was edited Nov 13, 2011.
Posted: Nov 13, 2011
Funny to read that some think TD needs more features for GTD. For me the only thing that would be really useful is some idea of task dependencies ... when task B is completed, task C auto goes to next action, something like that. Other than that, TD is *too* flexible for my needs; I have a special context "Project" for projects, and the relevant states are either "active" or "planning". However it's all to easy then to generate a task with state "planning" which gets lost in the system, since for me that is not a valid status for a task, it's only valid for a project.
If I have a project in state "planning" and create a subtask of it, it auto-inherits state "planning". Also you can get wacky things like a task that resides in a different folder than its parent task ... if you want to change folders for a project, you have to cook up some multi-edit search or else move the tasks one by one, rather a change in the parent task's folder being reflected in all sub-tasks.
Posted: Jan 30, 2012
The longest thread in this forum, with 278 replies spanning 2+ years, is "Proximo's DTD Setup". The discussion is all about trying to make GTD work by working around the features TD is missing to implement a GTD system directly.
How can you be surprised I would ask why not implement features to address those limitations?
Posted by don.mullins:
The longest thread in this forum, with 278 replies spanning 2+ years, is "Proximo's DTD Setup". The discussion is all about trying to make GTD work by working around the features TD is missing to implement a GTD system directly.
How can you be surprised I would ask why not implement features to address those limitations?
Lets stop for a brief moment and define GTD:
- Capture anything
- Define what's actionalble and whats not to achieve a sucessful outcome
- Organize it in a streamlined way, with the appropriate catagory based on HOW and WHEN you need it
- Keep it current
- Keep on track
- All this in order for you to make good choices about what to do in any given environment and situation.
There is not, in my very humble opinion, a single tool that can do all this without effort on the person that uses the tool. Thinking is hard work. For any of you backyard/shade tree mechanics out there... Have you ever had to fashion a tool, or combine several of them to get the job done? You know, nobody quite made one for YOUR unique situation (a 90 degree, reverse angle, left-handed tourque adapter).
Here's the thing, David Allen RARELY speaks about the tool, because the tool is irrellevant. It's your use of whatever tool you have thats important.
Weather its RTM, Nozebe, Lifebalance, Outlook, TD, Todoist, Evernote, etc., with thousands of forum posts spanning years, it is nearly impossible for any developer to meet everyones design of GTD.
"Life is tough. Tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne
R K Elleson
Posted: Jan 31, 2012
I have tried to adapt several of the MLO, TD, Nirvana2, Doit type of applications for GTD and I find that it is very easy to lose sight the basics when trying to make a tool fit evey detail of one's own way of working. I tend to rethink the way I operate when I am between different client contracts and, for me, it helps to go back to pen and paper sometimes - the only real downside is the limitation of backing it up. (Having said that, on the one (pre-cloud) occasion when I lost a bag containing my PDA, laptop and paper address book it was surprising how quickly I got over it!)
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"At first glance, it would almost seem like Sony's on a roll. They announced a new super-slim model of their PlayStation 3 system for the holiday season, along with exclusive content for Assassin's Creed III and some new projects for the PlayStation Vita. But that said, you still can't help but notice little cracks that indicate something is wrong beneath the surface. As much as we like Sony and the stuff that they're working on for 2012 and 2013, we can't help but think they've made a few mistakes, and this holiday season, those mistakes are more than likely to show, whether it's the lack of marketing or a decision revolving around hardware. Sorry, Sony, but here are five indications that you might have a problem come Christmas time…"
Of course their in trouble, they spend like drunken sailors. They need to release less and market more.
Yeah, that's what gamers need.
Less games, more marketing.
I am glad Sony significantly cut there bloated marketing budget. Its just a drain on the bottom line.
Probably wouldn't care much about gaming all together anymore to be honest.
Nintendo is for Kids and I have no interest in anything Mario. microsoft charges for anything online and is mainly focused on Kinect crap now... So yeah, it would be a lost for me and the gaming community.
I trust then that you are not a real "hardcore" gamer? Losing interest in gaming just because a company leaves the market is a sad reason to quit one of your hobbies or passions, there have been a few that have come and gone and eventually what we currently have will too. I used to be an avid Sega fanatic, but I had to learn to embrace the others and get over my fan type nature.
Each console and company offers a unique take on gaming and most games are multiplatform now days anyway. Sony does have some nice exclusives but nothing worth quitting being a gamer if they dissapeared. The studios would move on, the ones run by Sony would move elsewhere and the 2nd parties would join other camps, just like what happened with Sega and Atari etc.
Sony may not go third party since they have other divisions they would go back to, but their former studios would. So you wouldn't lose the games, just a brand name. Silly thing to quit gaming over.
Another day and another "Sony is DOOMED!!!" article. We just had two articles where one laid off employee was bad-mouthing Sony and another where it was claimed Sony was in more trouble than it seems. It is the easy way and sure-fire way to get hits for your website.I clicked on the link just to see what "cracks" Sony had and none of the reasons were big or significant. Just trying to get hits and I regret giving them one.
This "Sony is in Trouble" BS is getting old. It was old in 2007. Haters and their predictions were proved wrong the last 4 or 5 years. It has been just long enough for them to forget how wrong they were.
Sony isn't the same leader they once were but dont count them out. I remember when Apple almost died. Look where they are now. Sony isnt as bad off as armchair analysts would have you think.
Just my opinion anyway.
I'm in the same boat with Army of Darkness but for different reasons; biggest is PlayStation is what convinced me Nintendo had to step their game up back in the N64 days - Yes I was a big Goldeneye/Mario Kart 64 junkie however over time I saw certain games PS was releasing that made me think twice about the N64 for the long haul. I also overlooked Sega Saturn only because at the time Dreamcast was announced; and I did give the original Xbox a fair chance however the choice of "my" gaming preference was still on the PlayStation brand.
I'm more of a "retro gamer" since I prefer the older games and systems - before online, DLC, trophies/achievements, and internet persuasion; if Sony was to drop the PS brand yes I would give up gaming for the "future" but I would still keep all the classics as a way to remind myself what gaming was like back during the golden era.
I do have high hopes something can be done to secure the future of PlayStation at least.
yep I would be willing to give up gaming for some great marketing. lol
This is coming from a playstation fan site. This holds a little more water but its no secret sony is in alot of trouble. For the people mentioning Apples trouble are forgetting to mention that it was microsoft who bailed apple out.
Wait... everyone complains about Sony's marketing but bitches about their decision to fire a lot of the PR team?? smh...
@ Jazz4108- If you look carefully around the site, & look at the author's info, this is clearly someone from PlanetXbox360, just happens they made a new PS only site, & very obvious what they are by posting a 360 controller.. Not surprised by that since that site being posting PS news & articles on their own Xbox site.
Not surprised they would come with an article like that, & they always point fingers at everything Sony does, so basically, it's for the most part a 360 fan site undercover.
@Tenko - It's not a silly reason to quit gaming if the other alternatives offer you nothing you're interested in. Sure, Sony's studios will move elsewhere and make more games, but I won't buy a console hoping that the games I want to play will be on it eventually. MS and Nintendo show me no sign that we are on the same gaming wavelength. Until they do, Sony is the only game in town for me.
Sometimes gamers hate Sony for not splurging cash on ads like M$ & Nintendo does but IMHO Sony knows core gamers know much better than flashy ads on Tv. Real gamers research and look for games they want and are opinionated unlike casuals and soccer moms.
Sony can survive even if its the gaming division alone.
He's not talking about what gamers need. He's talking about what Sony needs.
yes another sony is doomed or do this to save your company sony.
A lot of people on N4G don't seem to understand how a business works.
Not surprised.
I agree with 1 and 4.
I think the vita gets alot of marketing.Not really alot of commercial time.But I see Vita ads in alot of sporting events.They could do more for it.And I was just sure there would be a price drop on the ps3.
Lol good sarcasm. Very precise. We need more EAs, lots of them.
Their called investments, like gakai, that was a smart move on their part and one thing for sure sony isn't low on cash. But they do have to market more that is for sure.
You don't need to advertise a game as much anymore. When I want to catch a trailer for a movie or game, I go to YouTube, as most people do now anyways.
@jadekorri.. Most people watch cat video on youtube, they don't watch trailer.
But I think Sony needs to spend money on marketing still. It is a step before people go to youtube to watch the trailer. M$ and Apple are doing an excellent job in marketing. Sony has been lacking this generation...
Wow how fricken sad that someone on n4g.com says this.
Such a sad GEN this is
Your mean they need to release more, and market less. There is no bigger waste of money in videogames then marketing.
Most companies spend way too much on marketing. Marketing is extremely overrated when it comes to selling games.
I agree with you but it's not bad if the product in question seems cool but there is not alot of talk about it.
Strongly agree. Take Demons Souls; not one commercial but it was so good word of mouth spread and Dark Souls did really well. These are the games I enjoying plopping down 60 bucks for.
Word of mouth is still a form of advertising; so in a sense its free advertising for Sony.
I'm glad they never had to go the route of Mountain Dew cans, or "Doritos" or even cereal (Nintendo Cereal was good though back in the day with Mario and Zelda marshmallows).
So not true. Demons Souls was successful, but sold no where near what heavily marketed games sell. The only mistake you are making is that you assume everyone is as aware of the game industry as you are. Take a look outside, the majority of people are dense, and slow. They need the TV box spreading the truth to their earballs. :)
that's the most ludicrous comment i've seen on this site this year, round of applause because that's quite the achievement on N4G, props to you.
Has anyone noticed these articles surface every holiday season.
I know it seems like dark days but you have to remember that sony makes a lot of their money from play station brand
Also with new CEO its gonna take some time but I think they are doingthe right things.
Also yesterday we had a similar article about Sony
Sony is in trouble because they have a lot of products that no one hears about, you need exposure if you want things to sell. You can't just make games etc and expect them to sell just because they are quality items, if no ones heard of it it wont sell! Vita is a fantastic product, but ask the average joe, i guarantee 80% will say "what is that?"
I care about Sony as a business because I am a gamer, and without Sony this industry would hardly interest me. Believe it or not, the company is not in good shape.
I hope the N4G readers know that UltimaEnder and LaurenKB123 own that site
Next up the Pope praises Catholicism.
I like how they say that aside from 2 or 3 games, they don't have much this year until next year.
Well, that's 2 or 3 games more than the competition, I know that much ;)
Halo 4
Forza Horizon
Fable the Journey
Super Mario Bros
Nintendo Land
Looks like the competition also has 2 or 3 games coming out...I guess you really don't know that much. ;)
@ gamingGod123
Why are you laughing at fable? Is it not a game? So now games that you may not like don't count as games? I guess Wonderbook is not a game? Sorcery? LBP Karting?
You call yourself gaminggod yet you seem pretty out of touch as to what a game is.
Why the hell would you mention fable the journey, over gears of war judgement? Unless it go pushed back to 2013.
If you going to be measuring a consoles exclusives you go with the "big guns".
No ps3 fan is screaming about wonderbook, sorcery(been out) and lbp karting as the the go to game this yr.
Solitare is still a game, doesn't mean it's anything worth talking about though.
Do you really expect fable the journey to even be remotely good.
Halo and gears will be quality games, like the previous games were.
Fable as a whole has been going down hill to me.
@ madjedi
Gears of War 3 has NEVER been a 2012 release. It's been slated for a March 19 2013 release.
No Jadjedi, it doesn't have to be a "big gun" to be considered an "exclusive". I don't know why you would use that kind of logic.
An exclusive is ANY GAME by ANY DEVELOPER that is ONLY on that particular platform.
It doesn't matter if Fable Journey is the best game in the world or the worst game in the world. It's got NOTHING to do about reception of the game. The game is EXCLUSIVE. Period.
I agree that Fable has been going downhill. I didn't care much for Fable 3 or Fable Hero's (XBLA) but that is besides the point. Fable Journey is STILL an exclusive game. Just like Wonderbook and sorcery are exclusive to the PS3. People may say they suck, but it doesn't matter what they say, it's still an exclusive game for that system.
We don't count games like Wonderbook or Sorcery and put them in our lists. We're not that desperate like you guys.
But sure, you can count Kinect games if you want.
"We don't count games like Wonderbook or Sorcery and put them in our lists. We're not that desperate like you guys."
Who is this "WE"? Sony sure as heck does. If Sony considers them as exclusives why wouldn't you? Are you saying Sony is wrong to count those games as exclusives?
Maybe in your bubble of a world the definition of "exclusive" differs from what the actual meaning of it is. Maybe you should call up Websters Dictionary and advise them that the have the word "exclusive" wrong and that it should be "Exclusives only matter if it's a certain product or service that only ShinMaster likes."
i think xbox is in trouble no new console release or new redesign of console and many gamers dont like halo
many gamers dont like Halo?
*Looks at Halo Reach sales*... 9.16 million
Mate you are totally right!!
It's true many gamers don't like halo, but there are lots of fans. Look at how many people buy call of duty compare its sells with that of halo. Halo is a quality game though, where I'm from though it gets much hate but I think there are more gamers who like rpg style games better where I live.
"*Looks at Halo Reach sales*... 9.16 million look at xbox fan base 55 Million. "
When your best game is a fps that keep having sequels & the adds perks to a "competitive shooter lol" then you definitely lack creativity.
Is it surprising that xbox players are the biggest Cod fans? I appreciate sonys effort to bring new experiences and not killing devs creativity.
Xbox has better online but games are lacking variety.
If we put games head to head ps3 vs xbox xbox always losses.
Sony is the only company who hasn't all but completely left the core gamers behind and that plus bad marketing is why they suffer.
You can't even get free multiplayer! smh.
Xbox & MS is more about image, perception and brand than games.
You want games that no one else is making? play these.
Those plus god of war. Now that bayonetta is a nintendo game xbox has no game that can compete with god of war or bayonetta. Left in the cold lol. They will need to find a third party to leech off again because new IP's cost them more money.
Is MS bring you new Ip's at the end of this gen to maximize your console investment? We both know the answer but but your fanboism makes you not care.
Nintnedo(who actually brought bayonetta from the dead)Sony & Valve are the only real gaming companies.
Their best game has
1) perks 2) only some of the original devs 3) is a sequel = story of Modern Warfare 3.
"According to the company(Microsoft), owners now spend more time watching TV and listening to music through the console than playing games with it."
"Probably the same game every Rare fan wants to see and that's KI3 (Killer Instinct 3). We all wanted to make KI3, but Microsoft [was] more interested in broadening their demographic than making another fighting game. So it never got made, I doubt it ever will." - Rare
nuff said
Please prove to me MS is a gaming company.
PC has better shooter also.
Yeah, not many gamers like Halo. But the media sure likes to think so.
I guess some console makers are not in the financial position where they have to redesign a console removing features and taking steps backwards instead of forwards to try and make a profit.
Halo 3 - 11.59 million units sold
Halo ODST - 6.07 million units sold
Halo Reach - 9.16 million units sold
If you think those numbers are an indication that gamers don't like Halo...
Then gamers must REALLY hate these titles.
MGS4 - 5.67 million units sold
Uncharted - 4.26 million units sold
Uncharted 2 - 5.72 million units sold
Uncharted 3 - 4.58 million units sold
Resistance - 4.08 million units sold
Resistance 2 - 2.33 million units sold
Resistance 3 - 1.19 million units sold
I think you have NO idea what gamers like. To me, I think gamers like Halo, Uncharted, Resistance and many other great selling franchises.
You are clearly out of touch in what gamers like.
Yes, we all know sales equal quality dude. That's why Call Of Duty beats every single game this gen when it comes to quality and not many people hate it. /s
Being bombarded with Advertisements definitely doesn't have anything to do with it. /s
Also that movie Avatar, more people like that movie than ANY OTHER MOVIE!!!!!! /s
"That's why Call Of Duty beats every single game this gen when it comes to quality and not many people hate it. /s"
I really hate this arguement, the CoD quality is there. The multiplayer, the community the production value is high. The game beats all others because it IS a fun game, and only the internet ragers hate it so your /s is unjustified.
"Being bombarded with Advertisements definitely doesn't have anything to do with it. /s"
Nope it doesn't, CoD is a household name now.
"Also that movie Avatar, more people like that movie than ANY OTHER MOVIE!!!!!! /s "
No idea what this refers too.
In this gen the so called "gamers" has no taste at all, most of them get what others or friends get that's why the units solds on some games are so high, it doesn't matter how good or bad a game is if the game is a popular one ( and probably an overrated one too) then the so called "gamers" are going to the store to get a copy, it's not about them liking a game, they just want to be fashionable, sadly -.-"
"I really hate this arguement, the CoD quality is there. The multiplayer, the community the production value is high. The game beats all others because it IS a fun game, and only the internet ragers hate it so your /s is unjustified."
You are mistaken buddy. The COD quality WAS there, not anymore. No one can argue against the fact that the series has gone downhill ever since MW2 came out. You trying to justify the quality in Call of Duty is laughable. Only reason why it appeals to so many is because it's easy to pick up. No skills or commitment required.
"Nope it doesn't, CoD is a household name now."
Maybe so. But if you give the same amount of advertisement to COD as say, an idie title (If they even get any LMAO). Do you really think it would sell as much copies as it does now? Not even close. You are delusional if you think so.
"No idea what this refers too."
You don't know the movie Avatar? The one that ended up being pretty mediocre (Like COD) but surpassed even Titanic in revenue? You must live under a rock bro. Well anyways, it was just an example.
well buddy if i had an xbox and the ONLY exlcusives games they were given to me was halo and gears then OFC the whole xbox crowd would blindly buy those
sony at least dont stick with 2-3 exclusives everysingle year..they release many exclusives around the same time and thats a reason numbers are so diverse unlike xbox wich is a one way pass.
Theres plenty of games on my xbox... a lot of multiplats, but I don't give a shit about their accessibility. And why would I?
You compared 3 games from one franchise VS 7 games from multiple franchises.
All I saw was variety.
The only reason I have an Xbox is cuz of halo...
And nearly 10 million sales is small?
People seem to forget the great year sony has had in it's very profitable movie's, music, and imaging divisions.
Sony has 007 coming out this nov. while resident evil retribution recently came out.
Sony will soon be reporting spiderman's and mib3's profits and they seem to be high.
They have some very good camera's coming out soon this nov.- dec.
This holiday sony will more than likely to make a good amount of money with their playstation brand.
Sony needs to let go of their loss making vaio and bravia brands and invest in better mobile phones.
Sony's issue with its loss making tv division is the damn yen so it can't afford to go cost to cost with samsung or lg unfortunately. Hopefully kaz is right when he says that they will start profiting from the tv division next year.
Or, if possible, a lower end bravia. I really Like my 46nx720 but if it has to be done..so be it :(
Actually the playstation division also made a loss so.....
@Haha123 read comments from uninformed persons make me smile lol ;)
you seem to have some great ideas there, its true Sony need to make less TVs, their 2011/12 range got pretty bad reviews and they are just recently gaining traction again. The sub divisions that don't make are hardware have been great.
Huh, I thought this website was for discussing gaming....
Apparently 90% of the people on this site are shareholders, console designers, and some apparently know about how PR works than the actual people themselves...
That is so funny, we live in the age of metacritic being the standard for how good a game truly is.
Probably to actually get a gaming discussion started, all sides would have to drop their brand ego for a while and go to a less public/combative area.
Where justin beiber and twilight are considered the best blah blah ever made, because look how much money it made.
Lol at the disagrees for grounds, well i guess the shareholders are still here.
I would so love to see a next gen fallout game.
Why the hell do we need another one of these topics.
@ Pekolie- This is actually coming from an PlanetXbox360 editor, they recently created that site, but they're for the most part an Xbox site, look at the top right of the site & look at the author's info, you'll see it clearly says PlanetXbox360, so Gribble has a point.
It's funny how Sony and Nintendo are always doomed on this website yet Microsoft is not.
Yeah been seeing a lot of hate on that WiiU personally I think it looks freaking awesome as a gamer I'm excited, that controller it has looks like it could add something interesting into gaming like imagine battlefield 4 and you had to diffuse a bomb or something like that would be awesome or if you were in fighter jet you could have switches you could flick. Now that would be awesome :P but yeah went of on a bit of a tangent there but I do see a lot of doom speak :P
Maybe because MS is doing great...
But seriously, no one notices the people posting these "opinion" articles? It's funny that no one realizes they do this to get certain members on this site easily agitated. I already see the same offenders reacting and trying to spin.
There's no need too, get to these opinion pieces before they hit and press the FAIL button. Nothing can be posted without community approval.
Be proactive not re-active.
If you look at MS threads they are generally empty of comments. Sony and Nintendo get more hits.
Thus a troll is born.
I'm curious, why do you think i'm a troll?
I've been here 5 years and never lost a bubble so consider me intrigued into your perception.
Is it the avatar? 0_O


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True Confessions From the Wolf of Wall Street
Opening Christmas Day, Martin Scorsese's The Wolf of Wall Street is a sex- and drug-laden story of dirty dealing, crassness, and greed in the world of investing. Here, Jordan Belfort, whose life inspired the film, describes what his first day on Wall Street was like. Contains graphic, possibly offensive language.
May 1, 1987
"You're lower than pond scum," said my new boss, leading me through the boardroom of LF Rothschild for the first time.
"You got a problem with that, Jordan?"
"No," I replied, "no problem."
"Good," snapped my boss, and he kept right on walking.
We were walking through a maze of brown mahogany desks and black telephone wire on the twenty-third floor of a glass-andaluminum tower that rose up forty-one stories above Manhattan's fabled Fifth Avenue. The boardroom was a vast space, perhaps fifty by seventy feet. It was an oppressive space, loaded with desks, telephones, computer monitors, and some very obnoxious yuppies, seventy of them in all. They had their suit jackets off, and at this hour of morning -- 9:20 a.m. -- they were leaning back in their seats, reading their Wall Street Journals, and congratulating themselves on being young Masters of the Universe.
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Being a Master of the Universe; it seemed like a noble pursuit, and as I walked past the Masters, in my cheap blue suit and clodhopper shoes, I found myself wishing I were one of them. But my new boss was quick to remind me that I wasn't. "Your job"–he looked at the plastic nametag on my cheap blue lapel – "Jordan Belfort, is a connector, which means you'll be dialing the phone five hundred times a day, trying to get past secretaries. You're not trying to sell anything or recommend anything or create anything. You're just trying to get business owners on the phone." He paused for a brief instant, then spewed out more venom. "And when you do get one on the phone, all you'll say is: 'Hello, Mr. So and So, I have Scott holding for you,' and then you pass the phone to me and start dialing again. Think you can handle that, or is that too complicated for you?"
"No, I can handle it," I said confidently, as a wave of panic overtook me like a killer tsunami. The LF Rothschild training program was six months long. They would be tough months, grueling months, during which I would be at the very mercy of assholes like Scott, the yuppie scumbag who seemed to have bubbled up from the fiery depths of yuppie hell.
Sneaking peeks at him out of the corner of my eye, I came to the quick conclusion that Scott looked like a goldfish. He was bald and pale, and what little hair he did have left was a muddy orange. He was in his early thirties, on the tall side, and he had a narrow skull and pink, puffy lips. He wore a bow tie, which made him look ridiculous. Over his bulging brown eyeballs he wore a pair of wire-rimmed spectacles, which made him look fishy–in the goldfish sense of the word.
"Good," said the scumbag goldfish. "Now, here are the ground rules: There are no breaks, no personal calls, no sick days, no coming in late, and no loafing off. You get thirty minutes for lunch" -- he paused for effect -- "and you better be back on time, because there are fifty people waiting to take your desk if you fuck up." He kept walking and talking as I followed one step behind, mesmerized by the thousands of orange diode stock quotes that came skidding across gray-colored computer monitors. At the front of the room, a wall of plate glass looked out over midtown Manhattan. Up ahead I could see the Empire State Building. It towered above everything, seeming to rise up to the heavens and scrape the sky. It was a sight to behold, a sight worthy of a young Master of the Universe. And, right now, that goal seemed further and further away.
"To tell you the truth," sputtered Scott, "I don't think you're cut out for this job. You look like a kid, and Wall Street's no place for kids. It's a place for killers. A place for mercenaries. So in that sense you're lucky I'm not the one who does the hiring around here." He let out a few ironic chuckles.
I bit my lip and said nothing. The year was 1987, and yuppie assholes like Scott seemed to rule the world. Wall Street was in the midst of a raging bull market, and freshly minted millionaires were being spit out a dime a dozen. Money was cheap, and a guy named Michael Milken had invented something called "junk bonds," which had changed the way corporate America went about its business. It was a time of unbridled greed, a time of wanton excess. It was the era of the yuppie.
As we neared his desk, my yuppie nemesis turned to me and said, "I'll say it again, Jordan: You're the lowest of the low. You're not even a cold caller yet; you're a connector." Disdain dripped off the very word. "And 'til you pass your Series Seven, connecting will be your entire universe. And that is why you are lower than pond scum. You got a problem with that?"
"Absolutely not," I replied. "It's the perfect job for me, because I am lower than pond scum." I shrugged innocently.
Unlike Scott, I don't look like a goldfish, which made me feel proud as he stared at me, searching my face for irony. I'm on the short side, though, and at the age of twenty-four I still had the soft boyish features of an adolescent. It was the sort of face that made it difficult for me to get into a bar without getting proofed. I had a full head of light brown hair, smooth olive skin, and a pair of big blue eyes. Not altogether bad-looking.
But, alas, I hadn't been lying to Scott when I'd told him that I felt lower than pond scum. In point of fact, I did. The problem was that I had just run my first business venture into the ground, and my self-esteem had been run into the ground with it. It had been an ill-conceived venture into the meat and seafood industry, and by the time it was over I had found myself on the ass end of twenty-six truck leases - all of which I'd personally guaranteed, and all of which were now in default. So the banks were after me, as was some belligerent woman from American Express -- a bearded, three-hundred-pounder by the sound of her -- who was threatening to personally kick my ass if I didn't pay up. I had considered changing my phone number, but I was so far behind on my phone bill that NYNEX was after me too.
We reached Scott's desk and he offered me the seat next to his, along with some kind words of encouragement. "Look at the bright side," he quipped. "If by some miracle you don't get fired for laziness, stupidness, insolence, or tardiness, then you might actually become a stockbroker one day." He smirked at his own humor. "And just so you know, last year I made over three hundred thousand dollars, and the other guy you'll be working for made over a million."
Over a million? I could only imagine what an asshole the other guy was. With a sinking heart, I asked, "Who's the other guy?"
"Why?" asked my yuppie tormentor. "What's it to you?"
Sweet Jesus! I thought. Only speak when spoken to, you nincompoop! It was like being in the Marines. In fact, I was getting the distinct impression that this bastard's favorite movie was An Officer and a Gentleman, and he was playing out a Lou Gossett fantasy on me - pretending he was a drill sergeant in charge of a substandard Marine. But I kept that thought to myself, and all I said was, "Uh, nothing, I was just, uh, curious."
"His name is Mark Hanna, and you'll meet him soon enough."
With that, he handed me a stack of three-by-five index cards, each of them having the name and phone number of a wealthy business owner on it. "Smile and dial," he instructed, "and don't pick up your fucking head 'til twelve." Then he sat down at his own desk, picked up a copy of The Wall Street Journal, and put his black crocodile dress shoes on the desktop and started reading.
I was about to pick up the phone when I felt a beefy hand on my shoulder. I looked up, and with a single glance I knew it was Mark Hanna. He reeked of success, like a true Master of the Universe. He was a big guy - about six-one, two-twenty, and most of it muscle. He had jet-black hair, dark intense eyes, thick fleshy features, and a fair smattering of acne scars. He was handsome, in a downtown sort of way, giving off the hip whiff of Greenwich Village. I felt the charisma oozing off him.
"Jordan?" he said, in a remarkably soothing tone.
"Yeah, that's me," I replied, in the tone of the doomed. "Pond scum first-class, at your service!"
He laughed warmly, and the shoulder pads of his $2,000 gray pin-striped suit rose and fell with each chuckle. Then, in a voice louder than necessary, he said, "Yeah, well, I see you got your first dose of the village asshole!" He motioned his head toward Scott. I nodded imperceptibly. He winked back. "No worry: I'm the senior broker here; he's just a worthless piker. So disregard everything he said and anything he might ever say in the future."
Try as I might, I couldn' t help but glance over at Scott, who was now muttering the words: "Fuck you, Hanna!"
Mark didn't take offense, though. He simply shrugged and stepped around my desk, putting his great bulk between Scott and me, and he said, "Don't let him bother you. I hear you're a first-class salesman. In a year from now that moron will be kissing your ass." I smiled, feeling a mixture of pride and embarrassment. "Who told you I was a great salesman?"
"Steven Schwartz, the guy who hired you. He said you pitched him stock right in the job interview." Mark chuckled at that. "He was impressed; he told me to watch out for you."
"Yeah, I was nervous he wasn't gonna hire me. There were twenty people lined up for interviews, so I figured I better do something drastic - you know, make an impression." I shrugged my shoulders. "He told me I'd need to tone it down a bit, though." Mark smirked. "Yeah, well don't tone it down too much. High pressure's a must in this business. People don't buy stock; it gets sold to them. Don't ever forget that." He paused, letting his words sink in. "Anyway, Sir Scumbag over there was right about one thing: Connecting does suck. I did it for seven months, and I wanted to kill myself every day. So I'll let you in on a little secret" -- and he lowered his voice conspiratorially -- "You only pretend to connect. You loaf off at every opportunity." He smiled and winked, then raised his voice back to normal. "Don't get me wrong; I want you to pass me as many connects as possible, because I make money off them. But I don't want you to slit your wrists over it, 'cause I hate the sight of blood." He winked again. "So take lots of breaks. Go to the bathroom and jerk off if you have to. That's what I did, and it worked like a charm for me. You like jerking off, I assume, right?"
I was a bit taken aback by the question, but as I would later learn, a Wall Street boardroom was no place for symbolic pleasantries. Words like shit and fuck and bastard and prick were as common as yes and no and maybe and please. I said, "Yeah, I, uh, love jerking off. I mean, what guy doesn't, right?"
He nodded, almost relieved. "Good, that's real good. Jerking off is key. And I also strongly recommend the use of drugs, especially cocaine, because that'll make you dial faster, which is good for me." He paused, as if searching for more words of wisdom, but apparently came up short. "Well, that's about it," he said. "That's all the knowledge I can impart to you now. You'll do fine, rookie. One day you'll even look back at this and laugh; that much I can promise you." He smiled once more and then took a seat before his own phone.
A moment later a buzzer sounded, announcing that the market had just opened. I looked at my Timex watch, purchased at JCPenney for fourteen bucks last week. It was nine-thirty on the nose. It was May 4, 1987, my first day on Wall Street. Just then, over the loudspeaker, came the voice of LF Rothschild's sales manager, Steven Schwartz. "Okay, gentlemen. The futures look strong this morning, and serious buying is coming in from Tokyo." Steven was only thirty-eight years old, but he'd made over $2 million last year. (Another Master of the Universe.) "We're looking at a ten-point pop at the open," he added, "so let's hit the phones and rock and roll!"
And just like that the room broke out into pandemonium. Feet came flying off desktops; Wall Street Journals were filed away in garbage cans; shirtsleeves were rolled up to the elbows; and one by one brokers picked up their phones and started dialing. I picked up my own phone and started dialing too.
Within minutes, everyone was pacing about furiously and gesticulatin wildly and shouting into their black telephones, which created a mighty roar. It was the first time I'd heard the roar of a Wall Street boardroom, which sounded like the roar of a mob. It was a sound I'd never forget, a sound that would change my life forever. It was the sound of young men engulfed by greed and ambition, pitching their hearts and souls out to wealthy business owners across America.
"Miniscribe's a fucking steal down here," screamed a chubbyfaced yuppie into his telephone. He was twenty-eight, and he had a raging coke habit and a gross income of $600,000. "Your broker in West Virginia? Christ! He might be good at picking coal-mining stocks, but it's the eighties now. The name of the game is hightech!"
"I got fifty thousand July Fifties!" screamed a broker, two desks over.
"They're out of the money!" yelled another.
"I'm not getting rich on one trade," swore a broker to his client.
"Are you kidding?" snapped Scott into his headset. "After I split my commission with the firm and the government I can't put Puppy Chow in my dog's bowl!"
Every so often a broker would slam his phone down in victory and then fill out a buy ticket and walk over to a pneumatic tubing system that had been affixed to a support column. He would stick the ticket in a glass cylinder and watch it get sucked up into the ceiling. From there, the ticket made its way to the trading desk on the other side of the building, where it would be rerouted to the floor of the New York Stock Exchange for execution. So the ceiling had been lowered to make room for the tubing, and it seemed to bear down on my head.
By ten o'clock, Mark Hanna had made three trips to the support column, and he was about to make another. He was so smooth on the phone that it literally boggled my mind. It was as if he were apologizing to his clients as he ripped their eyeballs out. "Sir, let me say this," Mark was saying to the chairman of a Fortune 500 company. "I pride myself on finding the bottom of these issues. And my goal is not only to guide you into these situations but to guide you out as well." His tone was so soft and mellow that it was almost hypnotic. "I' d like to be an asset to you for the long term; to be an asset to your business - and to your family."
Two minutes later Mark was at the tubing system with a quartermillion-dollar buy order for a stock called Microsoft. I'd never heard of Microsoft before, but it sounded like a pretty decent company. Anyway, Mark's commission on the trade was $3,000. I had seven dollars in my pocket.
By twelve o'clock I was dizzy, and I was starving. In fact, I was dizzy and starving and sweating profusely. But, most of all, I was hooked. The mighty roar was surging through my very innards and resonating with every fiber of my being. I knew I could do this job. I knew I could do it just like Mark Hanna did it, probably even better. I knew I could be smooth as silk.
To my surprise, rather than taking the building's elevator down to the lobby and spending half my net worth on two frankfurters and a Coke, I now found myself ascending to the penthouse with Mark Hanna standing beside me. Our destination was a five-star restaurant called Top of the Sixes, which was on the forty-first floor of the office building. It was where the elite met to eat, a place where Masters of the Universe could get blitzed on martinis and exchange war stories.
The moment we stepped into the restaurant, Luis, the maître d', bum-rushed Mark, shaking his hand violently and telling him how wonderful it was to see him on such a glorious Monday afternoon. Mark slipped him a fifty, which caused me to nearly swallow my own tongue, and Luis ushered us to a corner table with a fabulous view of Manhattan's Upper West Side and the George Washington Bridge.
Mark smiled at Luis and said, "Give us two Absolut martinis, Luis, straight up. And then bring us two more in" -- he looked at his thick gold Rolex watch -- "exactly seven and a half minutes, and then keep bringing them every five minutes until one of us passes out."
Luis nodded. "Of course, Mr. Hanna. That's an excellent strategy." I smiled at Mark, and said, in a very apologetic tone, "I'm sorry, but I, uh, don't drink." Then I turned to Luis. "You could just bring me a Coke. That'll be fine."
Luis and Mark exchanged a look, as if I'd just committed a crime. But all Mark said was, "It's his first day on Wall Street; give him time."
Luis looked at me, compressed his lips, and nodded gravely. "That's perfectly understandable. Have no fear; soon enough you'll be an alcoholic."
Mark nodded in agreement. "Well said, Luis, but bring him a martini anyway, just in case he changes his mind. Worse comes to worst, I'll drink it myself."
"Excellent, Mr. Hanna. Will you and your friend be eating today or just imbibing?"
What the fuck was Luis talking about? I wondered. It was a rather ridiculous question, considering it was lunchtime! But to my surprise, Mark told Luis that he would not be eating today, that only I would, at which point Luis handed me a menu and went to fetch our drinks. A moment later I found out exactly why Mark wouldn't be eating, when he reached into his suit-jacket pocket, pulled out a coke vial, unscrewed the top, and dipped in a tiny spoon. He scooped out a sparkling pile of nature's most powerful appetite suppressant -- namely, cocaine -- and he took a giant snort up his right nostril. Then he repeated the process and Hoovered one up his left.
I was astonished. Couldn't believe it! Right here in the restaurant! Among the Masters of the Universe! Out of the corner of my eye I glanced around the restaurant to see if anyone had noticed. Apparently no one had, and, in retrospect, I'm sure that they wouldn't have given a shit anyway. After all, they were too busy getting whacked on vodka and scotch and gin and bourbon and whatever dangerous pharmaceuticals they had procured with their wildly inflated paychecks.
"Here you go," said Mark, passing me the coke vial. "The true ticket on Wall Street; this and hookers."
Hookers? That struck me as odd. I mean, I'd never even been to one! Besides, I was in love with a girl I was about to make my wife. Her name was Denise, and she was gorgeous – as beautiful on the inside as she was on the outside. The chances of me cheating on her were less than zero. And as far as the coke was concerned, well, I'd done my share of partying in college, but it had been a few years since I'd touched anything other than pot. "No thanks," I said, feeling slightly embarrassed. "The stuff doesn't really agree with me. It makes me . . . uh . . . nuts. Like I can't sleep or eat, and I . . . uh . . . well, I start worrying about everything. It's really bad for me. Really evil."
"No problem," he said, taking another blast from the vial. "But I promise you that cocaine can definitely help you get through the day around here!" He shook his head and shrugged. "It's a fucked up racket, being a stockbroker. I mean, don't get me wrong: The money's great and everything, but you're not creating anything, you're not building anything. So after a while it gets kinda monotonous." He paused, as if searching for the right words. "The truth is we're nothing more than sleazoid salesmen. None of us has any idea what stocks are going up! We're all just throwing darts at a board and, you know, churning and burning. Anyway, you'll figure all this out soon enough."
We spent the next few minutes sharing our backgrounds. Mark had grown up in Brooklyn, in the town of Bay Ridge, which was a pretty tough neighborhood from what I knew of it. "Whatever you do," he quipped, "don't go out with a girl from Bay Ridge. They're all fucking crazy!" Then he took another blast from his coke vial and added, "The last one I went out with stabbed me with a fucking pencil while I was sleeping! Can you imagine?"
Just then a tuxedoed waiter came over and placed our drinks on the table. Mark lifted his twenty-dollar martini and I lifted my eight-dollar Coke. Mark said, "Here's to the Dow Jones going straight to five thousand!" We clinked glasses. "And here's to your career on Wall Street!" he added. "May you make a bloody fortune in this racket and maintain just a small portion of your soul in the process!" We both smiled and then clinked glasses again.
In that very instant if someone told me that in just a few short years I would end up owning the very restaurant I was now sitting in and that Mark Hanna, along with half the other brokers at LF Rothschild, would end up working for me, I would have said they were crazy. And if someone told me that I would be snorting lines of cocaine off the bar in this very restaurant, while a dozen high-class hookers looked on in admiration, I would say that they had lost their fucking mind.
But that would be only the beginning. You see, at that very moment there were things happening away from me -- things that had nothing to do with me --starting with a little something called portfolio insurance, which was a computer-driven stock-hedging strategy that would ultimately put an end to this raging bull market and send the Dow Jones crashing down 508 points in a single day. And, from there, the chain of events that would ensue would be almost unimaginable. Wall Street would close down business for a time, and the investment-banking firm of LF Rothschild would be forced to shut its doors. And then the insanity would take hold. What I offer you now is a reconstruction of that insanity -- a satirical reconstruction -- of what would turn out to be one of the wildest rides in Wall Street history. And I offer it to you in a voice that was playing inside my head at that very time. It's an ironic voice, a glib voice, a self-serving voice, and, at many times, a despicable voice. It's a voice that allowed me to rationalize anything that stood in my way of living a life of unbridled hedonism. It's a voice that helped me corrupt other people -- and manipulate them -- and bring chaos and insanity to an entire generation of young Americans.
I grew up in a middle-class family in Bayside, Queens, where words like nigger and spick and wop and chinkwere considered the dirtiest of words – words that were never to be uttered under any circumstances. In my parents' household, prejudices of any sort were heavily discouraged; they were considered the mental processes of inferior beings, of unenlightened beings. I have always felt this way: as a child, as an adolescent, and even at the height of the insanity. Yet dirty words like that would come to slip off my tongue with remarkable ease, especially as the insanity took hold. Of course, I would rationalize that out too – telling myself that this was Wall Street and, on Wall Street, there's no time for symbolic pleasantries or societal niceties.
Why do I say these things to you? I say them because I want you to know who I really am and, more importantly, who I'm not. And I say these things because I have two children of my own, and I have a lot to explain to them one day. I'll have to explain how their lovable dad, the very dad who now drives them to soccer games and shows up at their parent-teacher conferences and stays home on Friday nights and makes them Caesar salad from scratch, could have been such a despicable person once.
But what I sincerely hope is that my life serves as a cautionary tale to the rich and poor alike; to anyone who's living with a spoon up their nose and a bunch of pills dissolving in their stomach sac; or to any person who's considering taking a God-given gift and misusing it; to anyone who decides to go to the dark side of the force and live a life of unbridled hedonism. And to anyone who thinks there's anything glamorous about being known as a Wolf of Wall Street.
Excerpted from The Wolf of Wall Street by Jordan Belfort. Copyright © 2007 by Jordan Belfort. Excerpted by permission of Bantam, a division of Random House LLC. All rights reserved. No part of this excerpt may be reproduced or reprinted without permission in writing from the publisher.


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My husband and I are making an effort to run a better household. That means a lot of things for us including creating better daily routines, teaching/working with our children each evening, cutting down on TV, and eating more home-cooked meals.
That last part is where I'm challenged. I'm not a bad cook…when I cook. I'm exhausted when I get home from work every day, and with our schedules, it's just easier to do what's quick. But, I know that isn't best for any of us and we're committing to improving our health.
Here's the plan. Instead of grocery shopping every two weeks, we'll be shopping weekly based on the list of meals we plan to make. I love this because we're able to focus on fresh ingredients. We also get to try a lot of dishes I've been pinning and saving in Evernote.
For week one of our new meal plan, here is what we'll be enjoying:
- Grilled Bruschetta Chicken
- Bacon-Gruyere Meatloaf with Roasted Carrots and Onions
- Not-So-Sloppy Joes
- Black Bean Soup
- Slow-Cooker Beef Stew
I promise to post some sort of a review of the meals as we progress.
Have you tried anything like this with your family? Did you have success? Any family favorite recipes you'd recommend?


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Date: Sep 15, 2018 | Time: 8:00 pm
Weekend Rocks - Dr. Zhivegas - at the Bottleneck Blues Bar in the Ameristar Casino. Doors open at 7pm, show at 8pm. Friday shows - $5 cover at the door. Saturday shows - $7 cover at the door. See website for more information.
Ameristar Casino, located along the Missouri River in St. Charles, Missouri, boasts the largest selection of slot machines and table games in the St. Louis market. The property also offers a wide variety of entertainment and dining amenities.
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Kate Hudson & Matthew Bellamy: Double Date!
Kate Hudson takes a romantic walk with her new love interest, rocker Matthew Bellamy, in Paris on Sunday (June 13).
Later in the evening, the couple enjoyed a double date dinner with Renee Zellweger and Bradley Cooper at L'Ami Louis bistro. (They just happened to be at the same restaurant for dinner.)
FYI: Matthew, 32, is the singer and frontman of the English rock band Muse. Kate, 31, came out to support the band, who played twice to 80,000 fans at Stade de France.


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Council wants tree-enhanced entrance into Gothenburg
City to apply for shade streets grant.
Gothenburg's tree-lined streets have long been admired by both visitors and residents.
At a meeting Oct. 20, local city council members decided to continue the beautification of the community with trees—this time along Highway 47 from north of the Cozad Canal to 10th Street.Council members gave the go ahead to apply for a federal Shade Our Streets grant along the heavily traveled entrance into town.
City administrator Bruce Clymer said the $17,575 project would mean the buying and planting of 45 large, maturing trees on both sides of the highway.
If funded, the federal Community Enhancement Program would pay 80%, or $14,060, while Central Platte Natural Resources District could fund the remaining $3,515 if a city application is approved.
Clymer noted that the city has received preliminary approval from state officials to use highway right of way for the trees.
"Their concern is if it affects the highway," he said, noting that the only land not on highway right of way is property where the Nebraska Department of Roads is located.
Jeff Kennedy, city council president, hopes the city receives the grants but said forest service officials notice who has already received grants for trees.
"They might see we already got money for the cemetery trees," Kennedy said. "If we don't get it, we might consider resubmitting the application the following year."
Kennedy reminded the council that the planting of trees along the corridor is also in the city's comprehensive plan.
In the application for the federal grant, it states that Gothenburg has been a Tree City USA for more than 20 years.
Written by the local tree board, the application also points out the lack of trees along the community entrance has been noted in several surveys and the goal "to create gateway features into the community along major highways" has been prioritized.
Tree board members point out that the community planners who facilitated the comprehensive plan said that visitors do not see the beauty of Gothenburg until they are in the town proper.
The tradition of planting trees along Winchell Street—now Lake Avenue—began in 1897 followed by the building of irrigation ditches to water them in 1900, according to the Gothenburg Area History book.
Three years later, the local newspaper wrote, "The city council this year started out right by having shade trees put out and by furnishing us with water for trees and lawns as well."
On another matter and following a public hearing, the council gave Kandi Stickelman a special use permit to operate a home-based business at 802 16th St.
Stickelman told the council she wants to open Kandi's Skin Spa where she'll offer chemical peels, air-brush tanning and related services.
The planning and zoning commission had recommended approval of the permit.
In other business, the council:
- approved a draw down of $6,569 for payment to Miller & Associates Engineering Consulting of Kearney for street improvements on 22nd and 23rd streets in 2008.
- passed on first reading an ordinance to open an alley north of Jefferson Street between Avenues J and L behind newly constructed CROWN (Credit to Own) homes. Clymer said he thought the alley should be opened so trash can be picked up behind the houses instead of in front of them as it is now. Mayor Joyce Hudson said the city has had problems in residential areas without alleys.
- set the date for the city employee recognition dinner. It will be Jan. 15, 2010, at the city shop.
- learned that doors installed into city council chambers and the police department meet American Disability Act requirements. Clymer said 75%, or $5,000 of the $7,050 cost, was financed through downtown revitalization funds with the city paying $2,050.
- heard there will be a presentation to the planning and zoning commission about changes in the flood plain Tuesday, Nov. 10, in city council chambers at 5:30 p.m. Bill Jones of the Department of Natural Resources will explain and review the flood plain and its impact. Jones will also be available to visit with affected landowners during an open house from 3-5 p.m.
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Have you guys been following this new line? I don't remember hearing much about it, and it looks like there are only two posts mentioning it when I search the General LEGO forum.
(Pics from "Brick Fanatics" on Flickr)
Looks like some good castle pieces and maybe some neat new creature heads / torsos. What do you think?


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Fun with Emilio Bonifacio's – and Some Other Players' – Numbers
It hasn't always been fun for Chicago Cubs fans in the first week of the season, but there has been on clearly enjoyable, repeatable event: whenever Emilio Bonifacio comes to the plate (if not always when he's (not) standing on first). The 28-year-old utility man, whom the Cubs picked up just before Spring Training when the Royals paid him several hundred grand to go away, has enjoyed a pretty remarkable first week with his new team.
And because his performance has been fun, let's have a little more fun with Emilio Bonifacio as we await his next game, tomorrow night:
- Bonifacio has 14 hits through 6 games, which puts him on pace for a cool 378 over the course of a 162-game season. That's probably not sustainable, but that's OK – the record is a mere 262, by Ichiro in 2004. Should be a piece of cake.
- Emilio has been nuts this year, but his .491 wOBA is good for just 11th in baseball, behind such luminaries as Todd Frazier (.499), Matt Joyce (.506), Yangervis Solarte (.536) and Charlie Blackmon (.592).
- (Incidentally, the wOBA leader so far this year in baseball? It's an Angel, but not the guy you think. Or maybe the other guy, either. It's Josh Hamilton, at .610.)
- Finding the next Cub on the qualifying wOBA list requires clicking through a few pages of 30 names apiece, and then scrolling to the bottom: Anthony Rizzo, at .338. Platoons will do that, though, because three non-qualified players fall between Bonifacio and Rizzo – Ryan Kalish (.481), Luis Valbuena (.362), and Junior Lake (.351).
- Bonifacio is fourth in Major League Baseball with one intentional walk, tied with, among many others, D.J. LeMahieu for some reason.
- Bonifacio's line – .500/.548/.571 – is very attractive, but it was actually bested several times over the course of an entire season by Barry Bonds (asterisk inserted). For example, in 2004, over 614 plate appearances, Bonds hit .362/.609/.812. Bonifacio's wOBA this year is .491. Bonds' in 2004 was .537.
- Bonifacio's four stolen bases are tied for most in baseball with recent opponent, Ben Revere (who has been on base nine fewer times).
- Small sample size, obviously, but with everyone talking about all of the hits, no one has pointed out this: so far, Bonifacio's walk rate (9.7%) and strikeout rate (12.9%) are both considerably better than his career marks (8.0% and 20.3%, respectively).
- Bonifacio has already been worth 0.6 WAR, according to FanGraphs. His total WAR last year in 136 games, split between Toronto and Kansas City? Yup: 0.6.
- Emilio Estevez's career WAR, by the way: 0.0.
- Emilio Rivera's career WAR was also 0.0, but he's made a hell of a go of it as a character actor in a boatload of TV shows and movies. Maybe he, too, is just looking for his leading opportunity. Or, maybe he's just the Hollywood equivalent of a great utility guy, and we shouldn't mess with what works. (Now my brain is scrambling for other baseball/Hollywood parallels. Miguel Cabrera = Brad Pitt? Raul Ibanez = Christopher Lee? Ryan Theriot = Carrot Top?)
- Everyone's favorite jinx-tastic stat: if Bonifacio goes 0 for his next 18, he'll still be hitting over .300. He could go hitless in his next 42(!) at bats, and still be above the Mendoza Line (hitting an even .200 at that point).
- Although I was partial to MVPilio Bonifacio (it was my first idea for a Bonifacio quip, so you can understand), but I'm starting to get behind Super Emilio 64 as the nom de net of the versatile utility man. This picture pretty much pushed me over the edge:
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One of the most important photographs you could ever take in your life is a portrait. A portrait is a reminder to the world that your subject existed, showcase their triumphs, express their hardships and capture a moment in time that will not be forgotten. We will begin this class with a discussion about the structure and purpose of the portrait. Who is your audience and what is the story they should receive from your image? We'll continue with exploring the technical details of camera settings, experimenting with the quality of light and most importantly, interacting with your subject. Above all, communicating effectively with your subject builds a strong rapport that opens the possibility of conveying the story you set out to tell with your camera.
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Texas Gov. Perry Indicted After Veto of Funding
Grand Jury Indictment Comes as Republican Governor Considers Possible Presidential Bid
Texas Gov. Rick Perry was indicted by a grand jury in Austin on Friday on charges of abuse of power, a possible setback to the Republican governor as he considers a second bid for president.
He was accused of improperly withholding money from a state prosecutorial unit because its Democratic district attorney refused to resign after pleading guilty to drunken driving.


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The application of analytical and administrative tools to the solution of public problems. There are two foci: a study of the processes by which policy is formulated and the research and political tools necessary to assess program effectiveness.
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PRESCOTT VALLEY, Ariz. (AP) — The surviving member of an Arizona Hotshots crew has honored his fallen team with a prayer, and thanked everyone for their support.
Brendan McDonough on Tuesday read "The Hot Shot's Prayer" in a rhythmic voice that wavered slightly as it mentioned death's call toward the end.
McDonough had been assigned as a lookout on the hillside for his team on June 30 while they were battling a blaze on a ridge in Yarnell, about 80 miles northwest of Phoenix. He notified the crew of the rapidly changing weather that sent winds swirling erratically and caused the fire to cut off their escape route. Then, he swiftly left his post for safety.
Fire officials have said McDonough did exactly what he was supposed to do.
McDonough spoke briefly after reading the poem at a memorial in Prescott Valley, Ariz., saying he missed his brothers.