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Fred B. Bryant
posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 7:03 pm
From available documentation, I see that Mplus defines the Satorra-Bentler (SB) scaled chi-square for a given model as the maximum-likelihood (ML) chi-square value for that model divided by the scaling correction factor (c). When specifying MLM (the SB scaled chi-square) as the estimator, Mplus automatically includes the value of c in the output under the section labeled "Tests of Model Fit." However, when I multiply the MLM (SB) chi-square value for a particular model times c for that model, the result is not exactly equal to the ML chi-square value for the model.
For example, using Mplus 6, I have a CFA model for which MLM = 36.214, c = 1.188, and ML = 43.072. For this model, (MLM)(c) = (36.214)(1.188) = 43.022 which is smaller than the ML value reported for the model in the output by 0.055. Also, dividing ML by c: 43.072 / 1.188 = 36.256, which is larger than the MLM value reported for the model in the output by 0.042. Can you explain the source of these apparent discrepancies? Are they due to rounding error?
Related to this question, is there any way to obtain more than three decimals in the values reported in the Mplus output?
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 9:55 am
The differences are due to using less decimals than Mplus uses. You can use the RESULTS option to save the results with more decimals. I don't see that the differences are large enough to worry about.
Fred B. Bryant
posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 1:26 pm
Thanks for clarifying, Linda. It's great to have the option of using more decimals, if the scaled chi-square value happens to fall just barely below the critical value at p = .05. I appreciate your help with this.
Fred B. Bryant
posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 11:20 pm
Using the RESULTS option with the SAVEDATA command provides up to 8 decimals for each estimated model parameter. But it does not display more decimals for the model's goodness-of-fit chi-square value. Is there a way to obtain more than 3 decimals for the latter?
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 5:27 am
All fit statistics are saved in the same way as the parameter estimates. If you can't find them in the file, please send the saved results file, your output, and your license number to
Fred B. Bryant
posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 9:38 am
In carefully matching each element in the RESULTS output to the estimates in the initial output, I now see that the former contains everything that Mplus estimated, including the model's goodness-of-fit chi-square. The goodness-of-fit statistics are at the very end of the RESULTS output. This is excellent, and is just what I need. Thanks for clarifying this for me, Linda. What a great resource this forum provides in conducting SEM with this powerful and versatile program!
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 9:50 am
If you look at the end of the output, it lists what is saved and the order in which it is saved.
Fred B. Bryant
posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 9:36 am
Yes, at the end of the analysis output file I see the ordered listing of each specific estimate that's stored in the RESULTS output. WOW -- Mplus is a very well-designed program indeed! Very impressive! Thanks for your helpful feedback, Linda.
posted on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 3:25 am
I am doing SEM model comparisons and using MLR. In the case of Chi-square difference testing I am using Satorra-Bentler scaled chi-square difference test as provided on your website. However, for non-nested situations I am comparing fit indices (CFI, RMSEA, SRMR) - and also Chi-square to degrees of freedom ratio which I have been advised to include by reviewers.
However, while I have seen this done in the literature, I just wanted to check with you to see if Chi-square/df ratio can still be done with MLR by simply using the chi-square value provided in the MLR output?
Or - if some kind of scaling correction method (like in difference testing) needs to be employed to produce an accurate Chi-square/df ratio?
Thank you very much for your help.
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 2:15 pm
We do not recommend using a chi-square to degrees of freedom approach. Instead use RMSEA.
Terry Ng-Knight
posted on Friday, May 09, 2014 - 10:39 am
I am comparing a two-factor second-order CFA solution (with five 1st order factors) to the measurement model with only the five 1st order factors - using the WLSMV estimator.
The difftest suggests a significant difference (23.708, df=4, p<.0001), but I am a little concerned that the measurement model has a higher chi-square (S-B chi-sq(142)=724.926, p<0.001) than the model with the second-order factors (S-B chi-sq(146)= 686.125, p<.0001).
This seems counter-intuitive that the more constrained model appears to fit better, is it something to be concerned about?
Many thanks.
Linda K. Muthen
posted on Friday, May 09, 2014 - 2:44 pm
Chi-square with WLSMV In Mplus does not preserve the ordering of the least restrictive model getting the lowest chi-square. So this type of comparison should not be done. This is why the DIFFTEST option was developed to obtain a correct chi-square difference test using the derivatives from the two models not the chi-square values.
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Following is an unedited short story from an upcoming "Armory" book in the Chaos 6010 setting from Arcanum Syndicate.
He knelt there, the rain beating a steady staccato on the top of his combat helmet, as he stared through the scope of his Tritan Farshot rifle, silently watching a place almost a mile away. His position beside the communications antennae of the building made him almost invisible, in a location that anyone with a view of the city would casually ignore for more fanciful buildings that dominated the skyline of Haven.
His mind was not particularly upon his task, instead he kept thinking about his wife, lying there, tubes coming out of her arms, her breathing shallow and raspy, a victim of the Tarcoda Plague. They had shared a wonderful life for awhile, until the disease took hold.
They had been young when they met, she was just out of medical school, and he had been recovering from taking a bullet in the shoulder from an org gang banger. He had told the doctors and the police that he was simply the victim of a mugging, and for a time, she too believed the lie. He didn't want to tell her the brutal truth, of his involvement with criminal organizations, his reputation as a mercenary.
She had been there to nurse him back to health, as he recovered from a job that had gone sideways. It wasn't until after they had moved in together that she began to question things, like where he went, or why he would return with a few scrapes and bruises. He finally broke down and told her, and she held him in silence for awhile, and made him promise to leave it all behind.
But he couldn't leave her behind. When she came down with the Plague, their meager savings disappeared so quickly, eaten up by radical treatments barely keeping her alive. Doctors had been working on a cure, and the promise of a pending release kept him going. The few hours a day that she was able to remain conscious, they spent holding one another in silence.
When their savings were fully spent, he knew he didn't have a choice. But she didn't need to hear, didn't need to know that he was going to take another job. She deserved to live, and to live free of the guilt of knowing what he had to do.
His focus suddenly snapped to the present, as his target stepped into view. He said a silent prayer to those that would listen, and pulled the trigger. The bullet sped out of the end of the barrel with a sound like a heavy cough, flew through the intervening distance, punched a hole in the safety glass and sent spiderwebs through the window. His target's head disappeared into a mist of crimson, and the bodyguards turned in horror as their boss crumpled, a headless suit hitting the floor.
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The echoes have received their wake-up call. For the first time in the BCS era, Notre Dame sits atop the college football world.
After a wonderful weekend for Brian Kelly's Fighting Irish in South Bend and elsewhere, Notre Dame ranks No. 1 in the latest BCS standings -- a first for the program. The Irish no longer have to win a beauty contest against fellow unbeatens Kansas State and Oregon, both of which stumbled Saturday night. The nation's only other perfect team, Ohio State, is ineligible for the postseason because of NCAA sanctions. Notre Dame is No. 1 in both human polls and No. 1 in all six computer ratings systems.
After stumbling badly in its three BCS bowl appearances and making quick exits from the national title talk since the system launched in 1998, Notre Dame is finally where it wants to be. The program is no longer living off of its past. It's all about the here and now.
All that separates the Irish from the BCS title game Jan. 7 in Miami is a win this coming Saturday against archrival USC in Los Angeles, who will be without star quarterback Matt Barkley.
You couldn't have scripted it better for Notre Dame and its Heisman Trophy candidate, linebacker Manti Te'o, who surprised many by choosing the Irish ahead of USC coming out of high school in Hawaii.
Te'o and his fellow seniors went out on top in their final home game at Notre Dame Stadium, thrashing Wake Forest 38-0. But the day only got better as Baylor pummeled Kansas State, knocking the Wildcats out of the title chase and possibly quarterback Collin Klein off the Heisman radar. Another surprise arrived Saturday night at Autzen Stadium as Stanford, a team Notre Dame beat Oct. 13 in overtime, stunned Oregon in an extra session.
It's all right there for Notre Dame. Many expected the Notre Dame-USC game to shape the national title race before the season. Few expected Notre Dame to be the team in the mix, and USC to be the team in chaos. The talent-stocked Trojans have managed to lose four games. There will be no crystal football in Heritage Hall this season, or even a Rose Bowl championship trophy. Notre Dame can deliver the final blow and send itself to the title game in the process.
Who else loved Week 12 besides the Domers? Everyone in SEC country. We wisely didn't sign the SEC's death warrant after Week 11, and now the league is alive and well in the title chase after a Saturday of crushing tomato cans.
While Notre Dame has to win at USC to get to Miami, it's a virtual certainty an SEC team will be there as the league occupies the Nos. 2, 3, 4 and 7 spots in the BCS standings. As long as Alabama and Georgia don't stumble this week against rivals Auburn and Georgia Tech, respectively, their SEC championship matchup will serve as a national semifinal. Florida likely needs losses by both the Tide and the Bulldogs to have a chance, but the Gators can help themselves by beating No. 10 Florida State in Tallahassee.
No. 5 Oregon and No. 6 Kansas State shouldn't be dismissed from the title talk, either, but both teams have become huge fans of USC. The Ducks and Wildcats must hope that a Notre Dame loss and the growing sentiment against another all-SEC title game would propel them back into the discussion. Oregon didn't take a huge hit in the human polls but remains No. 7 in computer average. The Ducks' computer numbers should be helped this week in the Civil War against No. 15 Oregon State, but they also need a Stanford loss to UCLA to get into the Pac-12 championship game. Kansas State is still strong in the computers (No. 4 in average) but must wait two long weeks before it can improve its stock on the field when it hosts No. 16 Texas. Oregon and Kansas State would also benefit from Florida losing to FSU.
The latest standings show the SEC is a lock to have multiple BCS bowl entries, and the Pac-12 took a big step toward sending two teams to the big bowls. The ACC and Big 12 are in decent shape, and the much-maligned Big Ten now has two top-20 teams (No. 14 Nebraska and No. 19 Michigan).
But right now, it's Notre Dame's world. The Irish have the spotlight they crave, the opponent they crave and the opportunity they crave.
This Saturday night, it'll be onward to victory and a spot in the title game, or another season waiting for the complete return to glory.
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Most of you have your own energy drinks besides for Red Bull do you notice a dramatic decline during the winter or a upswing in sales.
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I drink Red Bull and I used to drink KMXhttp://www.melloyello.cjb.net
Its actually kinda funny, I had red bull briefly in my store and it sold the best, but then for whatever reason our distributor just stopped showing up. I've tried to contact them but I have no idea what happened.
Oddly enough, its seems easier to get a energy drink like the now pepsi owned, Sobe Adrenaline Rush or No Fear, while only one local company distrubutes RB.
As for how they sell in the winter, there was a pretty solid decline. A lot of younger landscaper kids would be buying them on a regular basis during nice summer months, but fewer of those types are frequenting the store, and many simply drink coffee in colder temps. But they still sell, just much more in the summer.
RB sold the best when I had it, people still ask if we have it. However, the line up we currently have sells in this particular order:
1. Monster - #1 because many of the drinks buy two cans at a time, I dunno what it is but the two can thing is solely for Monster.
2. Sobe No Fear - steady seller
3. Rock Star - sells moderately well, a lot of times it slows down big time and then perks up again.
and then there are the obscure ones that don't move as well. But we keep em anyway just to have a nice array of energy drinks. Once in ahwile you hit the jackpot and some energy lover comes in and buys one of everything.


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One that got banned today
What can be done about this? How did he get banned in the first place and how do we make sure that rachmiel knows he keeps coming back with new accounts?(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3690782&forum_id=2#33908494)
he mostly kept the new account to a couple of threads
but he will be going nuts again by the weekend(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3690782&forum_id=2#33908580)


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After the gifts are unwrapped and culinary feasts consumed, local residents are invited to a free holiday concert 4-5 p.m. Thursday by the indie pop band The Pop Ups in the Hillview Community Center Social Hall, 97 Hillview Ave., Los Altos.
The Grammy-nominated musical duo from Brooklyn will add some jingles and puppets to the family-friendly concert.
"There will be lots of surprises, and we guarantee some seriously danceable tunes. Come on a family adventure to Pop Up City," said Jacob Stein of the show he and Jason Rabinowitz will present in Los Altos.
Inspired by their previous work for "kid-centered" groups and Rabinowitz's experiences as a new dad, the band members said they build their performances around educational concepts and embellish them with "engaging elements that are fun for all in the audience."
"In our live shows, we focus on audience participation and creating a whole world inhabited by puppets with lots of laughs," Stein said. "This isn't a band show where we just play through the songs – it's an adventure."
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Has anyone ever accused you of being a little wet behind the ears? Well, now you can tell them that's just your phone, thanks to this week's theme for ADW Launcher. (Editor's Note: If you actually are wet behind the ears, this theme will not provide a good excuse.) If you like aquariums or just want to send the Android a ticket straight to Davy Jones' locker where he can sleep with the fishes, prepare to dive! We're going Underwater.
Underwater is a custom theme for ADW Launcher, a home replacement application that allows you to customize wallpapers, docks, icons and many other elements of Android's graphical user interface. By installing custom themes, you can quickly and easily change how your phone looks and operates with just a few tweaks in the settings menu.
If you're ready to take the plunge, here's what you'll be getting with Underwater:
4 custom wallpapers featuring colorful scenes of aquatic life including fish, turtles and other sea creatures. There's even an octopus' garden in the shade!
A custom clock, so you'll know when it's time to come up for air.
A custom icon pack featuring many of your phone's application icons decked out in underwater designs. They'll look right at home at the sandy bottom of the ocean.
Whether you've always wanted to live the life aquatic or you just want to take a trip of about 20,00 leagues or so, this theme is sure to prove that life really is hotter under the water. And the best part? No hipster mermaids, no pineapples and no tanks to clean; it's just you and the briny, deep, blue sea.
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Become server more protected running from the LiveCD like knoppix or bartcd?
If it is so what should I use?
Is it practicaly to do that?
// too far away outside of limit
I would say no. Most of the live CDs are not made for that purpose. First of all... they boot from a CD which is read only. Since its a read only filesystem with a (in many cases) small ramdisk, you are unable to patch. That is, unless you install to the hard drive.
They are not updated quite as frequently as the major distros where you can just burn a new CD when a security vulnerability has been patched. Plus, to have to download a 500-700MB ISO every time you need to patch... that'd be a pain in the arse. Most security patches are pretty small and can be downloaded pretty quickly.
These live distros are specialized. They are meant for a specific purpose. Evaluation of a distro, forensics tools, security tools, etc. Seeing that they are crated with just a couple of purposes in mind, they are not very flexible. You can't just say... I'm going to add a mail server service to this box... download the necessary packages and then install. You have to find a live CD distro that meets your exact needs.
I've seen a honeypot and firewall live distros that boot from CD. IMO, this is a great idea. You load the config from a flash drive or floppy. They fit one specific purpose. Some honeypots just emulate devices and services on the network and log that data to a syslog server. If someone were to compromise that box, they own your honeypot/net. If they can't make any changes... then its easy to detect/recover. They can't install a rootkit or try to delete the logs. Just reboot and find the flaw in your setup. Make the necessary changes and you're good to go. It is often desireable to change the configs for different services, but to not allow changes to the operating system. Since it is read only, you only allow changes on your ramdisk or where you are saving/loading the configs. After your configs are set, you can even just mount that removable media in read only... that will make the whole filesystem read only. Just allowing the ramdisk for swap, etc.
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Judy Tam talks about the success of BuckyDrop, the most powerful e-commerce dropshipping solution and how Taiwan should transform from traditional retail to the more efficient e-commerce or dropshipping, on In the Spotlight.
This edition of Jade Bells and Bamboo Pipes features a selection of Guangdong Music produced in 1989 and released by Hugo Recording in Hong Kong in 1990.
John Van Trieste and Shirley Lin announce the most scenic stop ever on the Taipei metro system, on Status Update.(more)
Tune into Classic Shorts to hear the famous story of a man, his boat and his sword.
Classic idiom - 刻船求劍 (kè chuán qiú jiàn) or "mark boat seek sword" refers to the man in the story. It describes someone with rigid, limited and unwise thinking.(more)
David Chen of the Muddy Basin Ramblers was in the studio to talk about his band, their latest album and the Migration Music Festival, on Jukebox Republic.(more)
Mayumi Hu is an artist, hotelier and an advocate of social services especially in animal welfare. This week, she talks about the things that she loves about Taiwan and how she's helping with the strays, on In the Spotlight.(more)
Since 1914, when Taiwanese performers sat down to record their first gramophone records, Taiwan has grown a robust music industry. Through years of changing fashions, Taiwan's artists have kept creating work for the people of their time- and ours- to enjoy. People here have no trouble remembering the big songs and the big singers of the past. But when it comes to the lives of the stars, the ways music was recorded, and the places where people once listened to music, memories can get a little fuzzy. For questions about these forgotten parts of Taiwan's musical past, you need an expert. Luckily, we've found one in Huang Yu-yuan, a researcher specializing in recorded music at the National Museum of Taiwan History. In this three-part series, Mr. Huang is taking us back into Taiwan's musical archives, sharing the best-loved songs, and unwrapping the stories behind the music.(more)
Yushan National Park rises up in the middle of Taiwan's high central mountains. From its lowest point at around 300m above sea level, the park soars up to some of Taiwan's highest peaks. At the top of it all, at 3952m, is Taiwan's highest summit and the park's namesake, Yushan, or Jade Mountain. It's a place of varied climates with varied plants and animals. In last week's program, with the park's Lin Wen-he as our guide, we took at look at some of the local wildlife and natural history. This week, Mr. Lin is here to guide us again as we explore the area's indigenous culture, look back at the park's history, and see how strict conservation policies have boosted animal populations.(more)
Morris Chang, the retired founder of chipmaker TSMC, received the First Order of Propitious Clouds from President Tsai Ing-wen last Friday, making him the first businessperson to receive the honor.
The award recognizes his contribution to Taiwan's hi-tech industry. Chang founded TSMC, or Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, in 1987. The company has since grown to the largest independent semiconductor foundry in the world. Chang, aged 87, retired in June after 31 years at the helm.
Under his leadership, TSMC's wafer manufacturing services changed the structure of the supply chain of the world's semiconductor industry. They also promoted the integrated circuit (IT) industry. Without TSMC, Chang once said, smartphones wouldn't have hit the market as soon as they did.(more)
Tune into Taiwan Today to hear how Hualien County is implementing the New Southbound Policy. This episode features the Deputy Secretary General of Hualien County Lee Hong-man. The New Southbound Policy is Taiwan's efforts to strengthen ties with Southeast Asia, South Asia, Australia and New Zealand.
Deputy Secretary General of Hualien County Lee Hong-man shares about how the 6.4 magnitude earthquake on February 6 impacted Hualien and how the local government has been acting quickly to rebuild the region. Lee expressed gratitude for the donations that came pouring in and shares how the funds have been monitored and used to help the quake victims.
As Hualien is one of Taiwan's most popular tourist destinations, Lee shares how they have been rebuilding the tourist industry and the attractions and special our packages available to visitors.
Lee also shares about the new immigrant population in Hualien and government services available to them. This episode concludes RTI's series of interviews with local officials on how they are promoting the New Southbound Policy.(more)
"Fitting in in Chinese" is a special series on Chinese to Go, which is jointly produced by the Chinese Language Center of Wenzao Ursuline University of Languages and Radio Taiwan International.
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(Déměi: Lǎoshī nín píngcháng zài nǎlǐ mǎi cài?)
Demei: Teacher, where do you usually buy food?
(Lǎoshī: Wǒ xǐhuān qù chuántǒng shìchǎng mǎi cài.)
Teacher: I like to shop in the traditional markets.
得中: 老師家附近沒有超級市場嗎?:
(Dézhōng: Lǎoshī jiā fùjìn méiyǒu chāojí shìchǎng mā?)
Dezhong: Don't you have a supermarket near your house?
(Lǎoshī: Yǒu shì yǒu, kěshì wǒ háishì xíguàn zài chuántǒng shìchǎng mǎi. Nàlǐ de dōngxī bǐjiào xīnxiān, piányí, érqiě yǒu hěnduō xuǎnzé.)
Teacher: There is one, but I'm still more used to shopping in the traditional market. Things there are fresher and cheaper, and there's a large selection.
(Déměi: Huà shì méicuò, kěshì wǒ juéde chāojí shìchǎng bǐ chuántǒng shìchǎng gānjìng.)
Demei: What you say is true, but I think the supermarket is cleaner than the traditional market.
得中: 我也這麼覺得。在我的國家雖然也有傳統市場,但是還是有很多人喜歡去超級市場買菜。
(Dézhōng: Wǒ yě zhème juéde. Zài wǒ de guójiā suīrán yěyǒu chuántǒng shìchǎng, dànshì háishì yǒu hěnduō rén xǐhuān qù chāojí shìchǎng mǎi cài.)
Dezhong: I think so, too. Even though my country also has traditional markets, many people still prefer supermarkets.
(Lǎoshī: Wǒ xǐhuān qù chuántǒng shìchǎng mǎi cài, hái yǒu yíge zuìdà de yuányīn, jiùshì nàlǐ kěyǐ tǎojiàhuánjià, chāojí shìchǎng jiù bùxíng le.)
Teacher: There is another good reason I like traditional markets, and that's the fact that I can bargain and talk the price down. You can't do that in a supermarket!
(Dézhōng: Táiwān nánrén yě dōu xǐhuān tǎojiàhuánjià ma?)
Dezhong: Do guys in Taiwan also like to haggle over prices?
(Déměi: Wǒ xiǎng zhè gēn nánrén nǚrén méiguānxì, jiùshì yíge dìfāng de xíguàn ba!)
Demei: I don't think it's a guy thing or girl thing. It's just a matter of local custom!
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John Van Trieste and Shirley Lin talk about three more MRT stops in Taipei with a view, on Status Update.
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David Lee's music was part of Shirley Lin's family life when her kids were younger. Hear his fascinating life story and popular songs of the 80s, on Jukebox Republic.(more)
Tune into Classic Shorts to hear the story of how shadow puppetry began in ancient China.(more)
It's been over 100 years since Taiwan's musicians started recording their music. From their first gramophone record, they've moved through many recording formats and decades' worth of fashions, both foreign and local. They've also weathered years of censorship to arrive in an era of free expression. Many people in Taiwan can point you to the famous songs and singers of the past, and tell you which songs were once banned. But the details are often fuzzy. What was the first Taiwanese record? How did the stars live and perform? And why were certain songs banned but not others?
I've wanted to learn more about the history of recorded music in Taiwan since stumbling on a piece of that history in RTI's CD library. It's a re-release of classic songs from the 1930's. If you've heard this program before, you've heard many tracks from this CD already. But to really understand these songs and the world that made them, we need the help of an expert. Huang Yu-yuan is just the person for the job. He is a researcher at the National Museum of Taiwan History who's made Taiwan's recorded music a focus of his work. Over the next three weeks, he'll share his deep knowledge of the subject with us, telling us about the classic hits, about recording in the past, and about why some old songs are still among Taiwan's best loved today.(more)
Yushan National Park is home to some of Taiwan's highest peaks. It's a hikers' paradise and a place anyone serious about conquering Asia's great summits will be sure not to miss. Towering over it all is the park's namesake- Yushan, or Jade Mountain in English. Atop Jade Mountain is Taiwan's highest point, and so Jade Mountain itself has become a symbol of Taiwan. The park isn't all soaring peaks and thin, cold air, though. Inside, you'll find a range of elevations and microclimates, home to a range of plants and animals. There's culture and history to explore too. Indigenous people living in the park still observe the same ceremonies their ancestors did, and there's a story behind the park itself too. Over the next two weeks, the park's Lin Wenhe will be joining us to share the best of what this rugged area has to offer.(more)
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Perez is the author of the upcoming book The AI Breakthrough: How Artificial Intelligence is Advancing Deep Learning and Revolutionizing Your World.(more)
The world's leading female badminton player, Tai Tzu-ying of Taiwan, has added another title to her stellar career. At last month's Asian Games held in Jakarta, Indonesia, Tai won Taiwan's first gold medal in badminton.
But Tai, who ranked number one in women's singles since the end of 2016, wasted no time in savoring her victory, nor did she attend a banquet held by the government for Taiwan's team. Tai is now in Japan for another tournament and will head to China when the Victor China Open 2018 begins next Tuesday.(more)
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"Fitting in in Chinese" is a special series on Chinese to Go, which is jointly produced by the Chinese Language Center of Wenzao Ursuline University of Languages and Radio Taiwan International.
Episode 68
Traditional and Modern
1 原因
(ā zuótiān méi lái shàngkè de yuányīn, nǐ zhīdào ma?)
Do you know the reason he didn't come to class yesterday?
2 討價還價
(ăojià huánjià)
haggle over the price
(ài Táiwān mǎi dōngxī, búshì shénme dìfāng dōu néng tǎojiàhuánjià.)
When you buy things in Taiwan, you cannot haggle over the price everywhere you shop.
3 一大早
(ídàzăo) early in the morning
(Tā yídàzǎo jiù qù xuéxiào shàngkèle.)
He went to school in the early morning.
4 攤子
(Yídàzǎo xuéxiào fùjìn jiù yǒu xǔduō mài zǎocān de tānzi.)
In the early morning, there are a lot of breakfast stands near the school.
5 講價
(Táiwān rén mǎi dōngxī yǒu jiǎngjià de xíguàn)
People in Taiwan have the custom of haggling when they buy things.
6 算
(Lǎobǎn niánjì dàle, chángcháng suàn cuò qián.)
The store owner is getting old, and frequently makes mistakes calculating the money.
7 人情味
(rénqíng wèi)
warm human relations
(Xiāngxià bǐ dūshì yǒu rénqíngwèi duō le.)
People in the countryside are friendlier than people in the city.
8 各忙各的
(gèmáng gède)
everybody busy with their own affairs
(Zài déguó wǒ yǒu hěnduō péngyǒu, kěshì dàjiā gè máng gè de hěn shǎo jiànmiàn.)
I have a lot of friends in Germany, but everybody is busy with their own affairs, so we seldom see each other.
9 不理
(Wǒ gēn wǒ nǚ péngyǒu chǎojiàle, tā jiàn dào wǒ dōu bù lǐ wǒ.)
I argued with my girlfriend, and now she ignores me.
老師: 現在大部分台灣人都不討價還價了。
(Lǎoshī: Xiànzài dà bùfèn Táiwān rén dōu bù tǎojiàhuánjiàle.)
Teacher: Nowadays most people in Taiwan don't haggle over prices.
歐福: 為什麼呢?
(Ōufú: Wèishéme ne?)
Oufu: Why is that?
德美: 我猜大部分原因是,超市、超商都標價錢,大家習慣了!
(Déměi: Wǒ cāi dà bùfèn yuányīn shì, chāoshì, chāo shāng dōu biāo jiàqián, dàjiā xíguànle!)
Demei: I'm guessing that a major reason is that supermarkets and convenience stores all have fixed prices, and everybody's gotten used to that.
老師: 也是因為生活比較好了,講那麼一點價沒意思,也不公平。
(Lǎoshī: Yěshì yīn wèi shēnghuó bǐjiào hǎole, jiǎng nàme yìdiǎn jià méiyìsi, yě bù gōngpíng.)
Teacher: It's also because the standard of living is better, and quibbling over prices is boring, and also unfair.
歐福: 喔! 可是有些攤子還是講價的吧?
(Ōufú: Ō! Kěshì yǒuxiē tān zi hái shì jiǎngjià de ba?)
Oufu: Oh! However, don't some vendors with outdoor stands still haggle?
德美: 看情形,攤子跟店面不一樣。
(Déměi: Kàn qíngxíng, tān zi gēn diànmiàn bù yíyàng.)
Demei: It depends on the situation: street vendors and stores are different.
老師: 攤子要收攤的時候,小店面打折的時候,或許還可以講講價噢。
(Lǎoshī: Tānzi yào shōutān de shíhòu, xiǎo diànmiàn dǎzhé de shíhòu, huòxǔ hái kěyǐ jiǎng jiǎngjià ō.)
Teacher: When vendors want to pack up, or small stores offer discounts, then maybe you can bargain.
歐福: 有時候熟客人不講價,老闆自動算便宜。這也算是人情味吧!
(Ōufú: Yǒu shíhòu shóu kè rén bù jiǎngjià, lǎobǎn zìdòng suàn piányí. Zhè yě suànshì rénqíngwèi ba!)
Oufu: Sometimes regular customers don't need to bargain, and the boss automatically sells at a lower price. This is a matter of good human relations
德美: 就是別在一大早,大家各忙各的時候講價,沒人會理你的。
(Déměi: Jiùshì bié zài yídàzǎo, dàjiā gè máng gè de shíhòu jiǎngjià, méi rén huì lǐ nǐ de.)
Demei: Just don't do it during the early morning. If you try to bargain when everybody is busy, they'll just ignore you.
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Our guests for the show today include Lee Weng Khuen of the Sun, Malaysia, Fergus Hunter of the Fairfax Media Limited, Australia, Somen Sengupta, a freelance journalist from India as well as Venkat Raman, Editor-in-Chief of Indian Newslink in New Zealand.(more)
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Tuan Tuan, the male, was born on August 30, and Yuan Yuan, the female, was born on September 1. The couple have a daughter named Yuanzai, who has been a favorite with the public since she was born in Taipei in 2013.(more)
"Fitting in in Chinese" is a special series on Chinese to Go, which is jointly produced by the Chinese Language Center of Wenzao Ursuline University of Languages and Radio Taiwan International.
Episode 67
Traditional and Modern
1 平常
usually, commonly
(Wǒ píngcháng bù hē kāfēi, kǎoshì de shíhòu cái hē.)
I usually don't drink coffee, only when I have tests.
2 傳統市場
(Chuántǒng shìchǎng)
traditional market
(Zài dūshì lǐ, chuántǒng shìchǎng yuè lái yuè shǎo le.)
In cities, there are fewer and fewer traditional markets.
3 超級市場
(chāojí shìchăng)
(Yǒu de chāojí shìchǎng kāifàng èrshísì xiǎoshí, fēicháng fāngbiàn.)
Some supermarkets are open 24 hours, which is very convenient.
4 新鮮
(Zhè tiáo yú yòu xīnxiān yòu piányí, bùmǎi kěxí.)
This fish is so fresh and so cheap, it would be a pity not to buy it!
5 而且
and also
(Zhè fùjìn de chuántǒng shìchǎng dōngxī duō, érqiě hěn xīnxiān.)
This nearby traditional market's food has a wide selection and is also fresh.
6 選擇
choice, selection
(Zhèlǐ zhǐyǒu yìjiā xī cāntīng, méiyǒu bié de xuǎnzé.)
There is only one western restaurant here. There are no other choices.
7 話是沒錯
(huà shì méicuò)
You said it!
(Guì de dōngxī bù yídìng hǎo.)
Expensive things are not necessarily good quality.
(Huà shì méicuò. Kěshì piányí de dōngxī róngyì huài.)
You said it! But cheap things are easily broken.
8 乾淨
(Māma shuō shǒu bù gānjìng bù kěyǐ chīfàn.)
Mom says, "If your hands are dirty you can't eat."
9 大部分
(Dà bùfèn de wàiguó rén méiyǒu chī xiāo yè de xíguàn.)
Most people from other countries do not have the custom of eating late night snacks.
歐福: 請問老師,傳統市場跟超級市場,哪裡的菜比較新鮮?
(Ōufú: Qǐngwèn lǎoshī, chuántǒng shìchǎng gēn chāojí shìchǎng, nǎlǐ de cài bǐjiào xīnxiān?)
Oufu: Excuse me, teacher, but which would have the freshest vegetables: traditional markets or supermarkets?
老師: 不一定!要看你買什麼? 蔬菜、水果還是肉?
(Lǎoshī: Bù yídìng! Yào kàn nǐ mǎi shénme? Shūcài, shuǐguǒ háishì ròu?)
Teacher: That's hard to say! It depends on what you're buying: vegetables, fruit, or meat.
德美: 我是覺得各有各的好。
(Déměi: Wǒ shì juédé gè yǒu gè de hǎo.)
Demei: I feel that each has its own good qualities.
歐福: 超市舒服乾淨,而且有本地和進口的選擇。
(Ōufú: Chāoshì shūfú gānjìng, érqiě yǒu běndì hé jìnkǒu de xuǎnzé.)
Oufu: Supermarkets are comfortable and clean, and offer both local and imported items.
德美: 話是沒錯,可是老人家還是覺得傳統市場的菜跟肉,比較新鮮吧?
(Déměi: Huà shì méicuò, kěshì lǎorénjiā háishì juédé chuántǒng shìchǎng de cài gēn ròu, bǐjiào xīnxiān ba?)
Demei: What you say is true, but older people still feel that traditional markets have fresher vegetables and meat, don't they?
老師: 德美說得沒錯! 平常傳統市場,當天進的都是當地、當季的菜。
(Lǎoshī: Déměi shuō dé méicuò! Píngcháng chuántǒng shìchǎng, dàngtiān jìn de dōu shì dāngdì, dāng jì de cài.)
Teacher: Demei is right! Usually, traditional markets sell goods brought in that day, produced locally, and in season.
德美: 可是話說回來,超市有冷氣,食物可以保存得新鮮一點。
(Déměi: Kěshì huàshuō huílái, chāoshì yǒu lěngqì, shíwù kěyǐ bǎocún dé xīnxiān yìdiǎn.)
Demei: But on the other hand, supermarkets are air conditioned, and the food can keep fresh longer.
老師: 各有利弊,各取所需囉!
(Lǎoshī: Gè yǒu lìbì, gè qǔ suǒ xū luō!)
Teacher: Both have their advantages, and you can get what you need from each!
歐福: 老師! 一次兩個成語,太難了吧!
Ōufú: Lǎoshī! Yícì liǎng ge chéngyǔ, tài nánle ba!
Oufu: Teacher! Two idioms at once are too difficult!
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An ongoing exhibit at the National Taiwan Museum called "The Mirror of Time" takes at look at work by nine of these early photographers. All were active in Taiwan during the early 20th century, and all left their mark with the same dry glass plate process. All but one were Taiwanese. The works span from 1905-1949 and are paired in the exhibit with some of the photographers' personal belongings and equipment. Over the next two weeks, we'll hear from exhibit's curator Chang Tsang-Sang about the photos in the exhibit, the lives of the people who took them, and the struggle to protect photos like these from both war and climate.(more)
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Episode 66
(Jiànmiàn yào wènhǎo!)
Greet someone when you meet them.
(Jiàn dào shīzhǎng yào wènhǎo!)
Greet the teacher and older people when you meet them.
(Zěnme wèn?)
欠欠身 彎彎腰 點點頭 笑一笑
(Qiàn qiànshēn wān wān yāo diǎn diǎn tóu xiào yíxiào)
Bow slightly, bow deeply, nod your head, smile.
(Dāngrán zuì hǎo kāikǒu jiào)
Best of all, say something in greeting.
(Zěnme jiào?)
(Zhǎngbèi gēnzhe péngyǒu jiào)
For older people, just repeat what you hear your friends call them.
爺爺 奶奶 阿公 阿嬤 阿姨 叔叔
(Yéyé nǎinai āgōng ā mā āyí shūshu)
"Grandfather", "Grandmother", "Grandpa", "Grandma", "Aunt", "Uncle",
(Zài jiā yīgè "hǎo")
Then add a "hao" at the end!
(Lǎoshī de xiānshēng jiào shī zhàng)
Teacher's husband is called "Shi zhang".
(Lǎoshī de tàitài jiào shīmǔ)
Teacher's wife is called "Shi mu".
(Píngbèi diǎn diǎn tóu)
Among friends just nod your head,
(Xiǎobèi shuō nǐ hǎo)
For younger people just say "Ni hao."
(Jìnmén yào wènhǎo!)
When you enter a room, greet the people in it.
(Zǎoshang shuō "zǎo")
In the morning, say "Zao."
(Báitiān shuō "nǐ hǎo")
In the daytime, say "Ni hao."
(Wǎnshàng jiànmiàn shuō "nǐ hǎo")
When meeting someone in the evening say "Ni hao."
(Wǎnshàng zàijiàn shuō "wǎn'ān")
When you part in the evening, say "Wan an."
(Yǒu lǐ rén jiàn rén ài)
Everybody will love you when you are courteous;
(Wú lǐ méi rén ài)
No one will love when you're not!
(Shīlǐ gèng shì dà zǔ'ài)
Rudeness is a big obstacle in your social life.
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Skip to comments.Dead Drops 'How to' - (alternative communication)
Posted on 06/23/2013 2:20:48 PM PDT by Lorianne
video 5:44
Pity it has come to this.
Samizdat, coming soon to a country near you...
And when it rains or snows? Or if someone plugs in and discovers fag or child porn. No thanks, I'm choosy at what I download..
I don't know. It was the "I'm sick of your B.S." motivation that founded this country. It may very well be the same natural instinct that preserves it.
1) Really should have a cover on the end of the usb plug - far too much of a chance of corrosion building up and destroying your data store, especially when outside.
2) Pretty easy to break using this method. I would choose to make it a female plug inset into the wall; yes, it would require a user to have a cable, but those are pretty easy to carry around, and would likely cut down random vandalism destroying your dead drop.
3) OMG, I so want to do a series of these as a multi-cache for geocaching! Ahem, aside from that geek moment, it is funny how little people seemed to react to someone holding a laptop up to a wall. This is New York; you'd think someone would have said something about it, but I guess 9/11 isn't on people's minds much there...
In writing this reply, I looked around the room, noticed an old Android handset, and said 'hmm' to myself. I spent a couple minutes, hacked up a server program, installed a portable hotspot, and had it set up to serve files off of the internal SD card. In titling files, you can set it to survive on the card for one download, 1 day, 5 days or 30 days.
It seems to draw a minimal amount of power, probably would last with the ancient battery for a good 3-4 days on a full charge. Add in a little solar panel, or even better, simply hook it up to a USB charger, and you've got a stand alone file drop that doesn't require the user to be actually at any particular physical location. And with onboard storage of multiple gigs, it would probably never run out of storage space. Total cost, assuming I was buying used handsets, around $25 per unit.
I don't think we're anywhere near this point, but this just became part of my SHTF strategy for communications.
File this in the carrier-pigeon folder?
Thanks for that post.
Yes the geocaching would be fun
I'd rather do a discreet solar battery charged bluetooth device than a usb port. Too obvious as to who is connecting.
good point, but that could be intercepted too
Attaching your laptop to a wall is going to arouse lots of suspicion, even in NYC.
Even better. I don't think QR codes were that common back way back in 2010 when this video was made!
FYI - May be of interest -See post 8
Outstanding and very intriguing idea.
We have now tested this... We used a custom build of Android, dropping all radio features except Wi-Fi. Using a three year old battery, we tossed it up on a bus stop.
43 people downloaded the constitution over three days, zero uploads, a total of 213 connections, over a 67 hour period. Battery finally died, but took seconds to reboot off of a solar panel lock box with magnetic mounts. We'll leave this up for the next week, should be subjected to two high pressure washes over that time.
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OTTAWA (AP) — Canada's federal government allowed the approval process to proceed Monday for the generic form of the highly-addictive painkiller OxyContin, a move that set off a quick outcry from the country's provinces and aboriginal communities.
Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq rejected a plea from Canada's provinces, which unanimously requested a delay of approval until regulators could examine the abuse of oxycodone. Ontario asked for a complete ban on the drug, which has caused widespread addictions in Canada's rural and tribal communities.
Her refusal to get involved in the process opens the way for generic oxycodone to win approval in Canada after the patent for the brand-name OxyContin expires on Nov. 25.
"I am profoundly disappointed in minister Aglukkaq's decision to ignore the threat to public safety posed by generic OxyContin and to allow it to enter the Canadian market," Ontario Health Minister Deb Matthews said in a statement.
Matthews had warned that the "streets would be flooded" with the generic form of the drug if it is approved.
Aglukkaq rejected those warnings. She told a news conference that federal laws don't allow regulators to ban a drug just because some people abuse it, and said the provinces already have several ways to prevent oxycodone and other opiates from being abused. If provincial authorities have proof that doctors and pharmacists are enabling abuse, the federal government will take action, she added.
While national figures are hard to come by, Matthews said OxyContin has led to a five-fold increase in oxycodone-related deaths. She said the social costs of allowing generic oxycodone would be about $500 million a year in Ontario alone.
OxyContin is trafficked on the black market across rural Canada. In some northern Ontario tribal reservations, more than half the adult population is addicted to prescription drugs.
Alvin Fiddler, deputy grand chief of the Nishnawbe Aski Nation, called the decision another unwelcome blow to aboriginal communities that are already suffering.
"With OxyContin clones on the market, it just means more drugs flow to the north," said Fiddler, whose group represents some 49 First Nation communities in northern Ontario.
"While we appreciate the minister's distinction between science and politics, NAN First Nations are experiencing extreme levels of addiction and require extreme solutions."
Aglukkaq, the federal health minister, said banning a single drug won't solve the problem of prescription drug abuse, she warned.
"Banning a generic version of one drug would do little to solve the actual problem," Aglukkaq said her letter. "There are almost 100 authorized drugs in Canada that are in the very same class of drugs as OxyContin.
"Banning all these drugs because they have the potential to be addictive would help dry up the drug supply for addicts, but would lead to pain and suffering for patients who desperately need them."
Opposition Liberals accused the minister of abandoning her responsibility to prevent prescription drug abuse.
"It's a serious epidemic," said Liberal aboriginal affairs critic Carolyn Bennett. "Why will she not listen to the health ministers of this country?"
Aglukkaq says Ottawa will tighten licensing rules so that distributors of oxycodone have to keep better track of where the drug goes. Starting in 2013, they will need to report spikes in sales and changes in distribution patterns, in addition to previous responsibilities to report losses and theft.
And if the provinces eventually find that they still can't sufficiently control oxycodone, Aglukkaq says she would be open to new regulations to further restrict prescribing and dispensing of the drug.
David Juurlink, the head of clinical pharmacology at the University of Toronto, said he'd like to see federal action on the drug as soon as possible. If Ottawa sees legal barriers to banning oxy, it should at least consider changing the law, he said.
Canada's doctors should be warned against prescribing high doses of oxycodone over a long period of time, Juurlink said, because OxyContin is among the easiest medications to abuse and is "actually very dangerous."


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NEW YORK (AP) — Jerry Seinfeld has added a show in Long Island to his new comedy tour and will donate all proceeds from it and two other performances to Superstorm Sandy relief.
The newly added show will be on Dec. 19 at the NYCB Theater in Westbury. He and fellow comedian Colin Quinn, who is touring with the "Seinfeld" star, will donate all proceeds to groups helping storm victims.
Both will also donate all revenue from Thursday's show in Brooklyn and a Dec. 6 show in Staten Island.
"I grew up on Long Island, and New York City is home," Seinfeld said in a statement. "This is a tough time for this area, and we're just glad to be able to help in the recovery."
Seinfeld's tour kicked off Oct. 4.


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By Steve Tonn, UNL Extension Educator
Calving season is upon us and how do your cows look? Are they are on the thin side or in good body condition? Has the winter been tough on them? Has your pre-calving nutrition program been adequate?
Cow body condition is a more reliable indicator of nutritional status of a cow than body weight.
Cow body condition scores are based on a scale of 1 to 9. Mature cows should calve at a body condition score of at least 5 and first calf heifers should have a body condition score of 6 at calving. If body condition scoring is new to you, then just focus on separating cows into thin, moderate and fat groups without worrying about a numerical score.
Thin cows may give birth to calves that are less vigorous and slower to stand to nurse for the first time. They also produce less colostrum and lower quality colostrum for their calves. This means the calves will not receive as high a dose of passive immunity or antibodies from the cow to help the calf fight off diseases. Thin cows are slower to re-breed after calving than compared to moderate condition cows. That means more calves will be born later in the calving season next year.
Condition changes after calving will have more subtle effects on rebreeding especially in cows that are in marginal body condition. Body condition changes from the time the cow calves until she begins the breeding season can play a significant role in the rebreeding success story. This appears to be most important to those cows that calve in the marginal body condition score range of "4" or "5". An Oklahoma trial illustrates the vulnerability of cows that calve in the body condition score of 5. Two groups of spring (March) calving cows began the winter feeding period in similar body condition and calved in very similar body condition. However, after calving and before the breeding season began, one group was allowed to lose almost one full condition score. The other group of cows was fed adequately to maintain the body condition that they had prior to calving. The difference in rebreeding rate was dramatic (73% vs 94%). Again this illustrates that cows that calve in the body condition score of 5 are very vulnerable to weather and suckling intensity stresses and ranchers must use good nutritional strategies after calving to avoid disastrous rebreeding performance.
Following calving, it is very difficult to increase the body condition on a cow. Lactating cows have a very high nutrient requirement. They need a lot of excess energy to increase their body condition. This is usually not practical or economical to do. However, separating thin cows from moderate condition cows would be a good management practice. This would allow the thin cows to get their fair share of the feed. Also feeding thins cows a higher quality more nutrient dense ration would be helpful. Because corn prices are high, beef producers may want to consider using alternative feeds such as soybean hulls, distillers grains or corn gluten feed in the cow's diet. Price your energy source on a per pound of TDN basis to get the best buy.
Yes, the feed is high-priced. But the cost of losing 21% of next year's calf crop is even greater!
Poor nutrition prior to and following calving, can have harmful lasting impacts on cow productivity and cow herd profitability.
More details at: http://go.unl.edu/v8s


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