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World Refugee Survey 2008 - Sudan
|United States Committee for Refugees and Immigrants
|Publication Date
|19 June 2008
|Cite as
|United States Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, World Refugee Survey 2008 - Sudan, 19 June 2008, available at: http://www.refworld.org/docid/485f50d3c.html [accessed 23 September 2018]
|This is not a UNHCR publication. UNHCR is not responsible for, nor does it necessarily endorse, its content. Any views expressed are solely those of the author or publisher and do not necessarily reflect those of UNHCR, the United Nations or its Member States.
Sudan hosted around 310,500 refugees from its neighbors, primarily Eritrea, Chad, Ethiopia, the Democratic Republic of Congo (Congo-Kinshasa), and the Central African Republic (CAR). Of the roughly 240,400 Eritrean refugees, some 134,500 lived in 12 camps in eastern Sudan. They came mainly during the Ethiopian-Eritrean war, and remained even though nearly 70,000 of them lost their official refugee status after the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) invoked cessation on their prima facie claims to refugee status at the end of 2002. Nearly a hundred Eritreans arrived weekly, most escaping conscription into the Eritrean army.
Sudan gave prima facie recognition to around 45,000, primarily Arab nomadic Chadians who entered its borders after fleeing ethnic clashes in their homeland starting in the 1980s. Ethiopians in Sudan numbered 19,300, of whom some 11,400 lived in the capital and eastern Sudan, while 7,900 ethnic Anouk lived in Jonglei State in the south. Between 2,500 and 4,000 ethnic Goula refugees from CAR sought refuge in Sudan in January, following army reprisals against Goula and other rebel groups. Sudan registered nearly 900 but the rest remained unregistered.
Refoulement/Physical Protection
Sudan deported at least 1,500 refugees and asylum seekers.
In January, Gedaref immigration authorities deported two Ethiopian teenagers whose refugee parents lived in Khartoum. Immigration authorities claimed ignorance of the children's status. UNHCR facilitated their return to the Sudanese border area, after which the agency worked to reunite them with their families. In February, Sudanese police arrested and deported an unknown number of Ethiopian asylum seekers who had sought protection at UNHCR's Khartoum office since December 2006 after Sudan rejected their claims to refugee status. In May, authorities deported six Eritrean asylum seekers from Kassala State. In mid-June, following a court ruling, Sudan deported two Eritrean families seeking asylum, despite UNHCR's urging Sudan to process their applications for refugee status. In mid-July, the Government was reportedly preparing to deport up to 500 refugees to Eritrea the following week, most of them UNHCR-registered residents of Wadi Sherife camp. Police arrested 25 Eritreans and Ethiopians and deported them before UNHCR had a chance to assess their status. In August, Sudan deported 36 refugees back to Ethiopia. Despite reassuring UNHCR that it would not repeat the practice, the following month Sudan handed over at least 15 refugees to Ethiopian authorities at the Metema border crossing. In October, the Government deported 11 Ethiopians allied to the Ethiopian opposition movement. Other deportations went unreported.
In November, UNHCR conducted non-refoulement awareness workshops in eastern Sudan and Khartoum for both central and local officials. Except in security cases, Southern Sudanese authorities generally respected the non-refoulement principle despite the lack of legislation.
There were no confirmed reports of attacks on refugees by foreign agents but an Eritrean opposition source alleged that Eritrean agents abducted Eritreans and took them to Eritrean prisons.
Sudan was party to the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees (1951 Convention), its 1967 Protocol, and the 1969 Convention governing the Specific Aspects of Refugee Problems in Africa (African Refugee Convention), but retained a reservation to the 1951 Convention's right to freedom of movement. The Asylum Act appointed a Commissioner for Refugees (COR), defined refugees generally following the 1951 and African Refugee Conventions, but did not prohibit refoulement, nor did it outline procedures or clear criteria for expulsion. It gave the Minister of Interior or his delegates the right to grant asylum for renewable periods of five years. If the Minister failed to decide on applications within one month, the Asylum Act deemed them granted, for a renewable period of three months. The Asylum Act had no provisions for appeal. UNHCR monitored the Government's refugee status determination.
The 1998 Constitution provided that "everyone who has lived in Sudan during their youth or who has been resident in Sudan for several years has the right to Sudanese nationality in accordance with law," but Sudan did not allow refugees to become permanent residents or naturalize, regardless of how long they had lived in the country.
Detention/Access to Courts
Sudan arbitrarily detained scores of refugees and asylum seekers and charged them with illegal entry and lack of documents under the Passport and Immigration Law of 1993. UNHCR, along with COR, intervened to secure detainees' release, as in the cases of three Eritreans, three Ethiopians, one Cameroonian, and five Somalis.
In January, Sudan arrested a 63-year-old Ethiopian refugee, and held him in Kobar prison, where he remained at year's end. In June, police arrested nine Eritrean refugees during a protest outside UNHCR's office in Al Amarat, Khartoum, but released seven of them. In July, Sudan reportedly arrested about 500 Eritreans. Also in July, the Government arrested more than 30 Ethiopians in Khartoum and Damazine, subsequently deporting 15 and ignored UNHCR appeals for information about the rest. Sudan still held at least three in Kobar prison at year's end. Some of the detainees reportedly belonged to the Oromo Liberation Front fighting Ethiopian forces. In the same month, officials sentenced 13 refugees to three months in Kassala prison for attempting to enter Egypt illegally and refused UNHCR access to them.
UNHCR appointed lawyers to challenge refugee detentions, and in some cases to appeal for reduced sentences.
Obtaining refugee documentation was an expensive, time-consuming, and arbitrary process especially in the east and Khartoum. The Asylum Act required COR to issue renewable identity cards to all refugees valid "for the period during which the refugee is granted permission to stay," i.e., for five years or more. COR, however, issued cards valid from three months to a year.
Nearly 70,000 Eritreans of concern to UNHCR remained without status or documentation after the agency invoked the 1951 Convention's cessation clause in 2002-2004, nullifying their prima facie recognition. Recognized Eritrean refugees who moved from eastern Sudan to Khartoum did not receive cards and most asylum seekers there waited for admission to the Government's registration and asylum procedures. In southern Sudan and Darfur, refugees recognized prima facie did not receive identity cards. Between February and April, COR staff in Girba suspended issuing refugee cards to Kilo 26 camp residents. Refugees had to pay between 1,000 and 2,000 Dinars (about $5-10) per card which many did not have. Asylum seekers did not receive identity cards, although the Asylum Act entitled them to receive documentation.
The 1998 Constitution declared that "all persons" were equal before the law but also provided that "Sudanese are equal in the rights and duties of public life without discrimination based on race, sex or religion." The Constitution extended to all its protections against arbitrary deprivation of liberty, due process provisions, and rights to effective remedies. The Asylum Act allowed authorities to detain refugees "if it is found necessary."
Freedom of Movement and Residence
Sudan required refugees to live in certain areas, designated according to their nationality. Eritreans had to live in the camps in the east while COR screened them, and Ethiopians had to apply for asylum in the capital. Camp residents who had left to find work had to return to renew their cards, unless granted extraordinary permission. In eastern Sudan, asylum seekers could move anywhere in the Wadi Sherife area until the completion of their status determination, but about 80 percent of those arriving in the area left. Although authorities allowed refugees to move to the capital only for educational, medical need, and family reunification, they tolerated the presence of highly-educated Eritrean refugees with identity cards. In southern Sudan and Darfur, refugees recognized prima facie reportedly were free to move in the area.
Most of the estimated 45,000 Chadians in Sudan lived in camps, including Um Shalaya and Mukjar, in West Darfur, but another 16,000 settled on the border to tend their lands. Many Arab Chadians occupied the property of displaced Darfur residents who had fled, especially in the Wadi Azoum and Wadi Saleh areas. In March and June, UNHCR and the International Organization for Migration moved over 1,000 Chadian African refugees from Arara and Beida to Um Shalaya camp, where the local community was of African descent but Arab nomad tribes attacked and robbed them. By the end of August, the camp housed nearly 6,000 and relief agencies could reach it only by helicopter.
Sudan maintained a reservation to the 1951 Convention's right to freedom of movement and the Constitution reserved to citizens its right to freedom of movement. The Asylum Act provided for up to a year in prison for any refugee who left "any place of residence specified for him."
The Asylum Act also allowed the Minister of Interior to provide refugees with passports and, under exceptional circumstances, the Minister of Foreign Affairs to issue them with diplomatic ones. Sudan allowed refugees to travel internationally provided they held refugee cards and valid visas, got UNHCR's recommendation, and had no criminal records.
Right to Earn a Livelihood
Sudan required refugees to obtain work permits to work legally, and its Department of Labour's process for obtaining permits was complex and expensive. Many camp residents waited for years for identification papers to confirm their status and allow them to seek work.
Although provincial governments allowed refugees to farm and work locally, security officials often prevented employers from hiring Ethiopian refugees. Refugees had informal businesses and service jobs, but often at positions below their qualifications. CAR refugees survived by working on private farms or by fishing. UNHCR helped refugees in six camps cultivate crops.
The Government barred refugees from working in state enterprises by requiring military service books. The Government restricted lawyers from practicing, and doctors and teachers needed to obtain licenses from the Ministries of Health or Education. Refugee teachers in camp schools in eastern Sudan could serve only as assistants.
The Constitution was silent on the right to work, but limited to citizens the right to join unions. The Asylum Act forbade refugees from working in security or defense-related industries and required permission from the Department of Labour with notice to the Ministry of Interior to work in any other sector. In July, the Government issued a decree forbidding international organizations in the country from employing refugees except in certain categories.
Legally employed refugees had the same labor and social rights as nationals.
Recognized refugees could engage in self-employment although the Asylum Act did not explicitly provide for it. The Asylum Act forbade refugees from acquiring immovable property but many bought business premises in the names of nationals. Authorities allotted land to some 1,300 refugee families in Um Gargur camp and around 500 refugee families in Abuda camp. They did not receive title but COR issued them letters certifying the land was for their use. Jonglei State authorities also lent land for refugees to cultivate. Um Shalaya residents allowed refugees to cultivate land, for which two NGOs distributed seeds.
Refugees could own bank accounts, and there were no known restrictions on their acquisition of movable property.
Public Relief and Education
The Government in the north was hostile and uncooperative toward UNHCR. Authorities frequently demanded permits, security clearance, and advance notice, and they denied UNHCR access to Wadi Sherife camp in February and March.
In February, after bandits carjacked a UNHCR vehicle near Um Shalaya camp the agency suspended operations for two weeks. At the end of April, gunmen abducted six UNHCR staff and then abandoned them unhurt nearly 100 miles (150 km) away, after which the agency suspended registration at Um Shalaya.
Most of the Chadian refugees in West Darfur brought livestock and supplies with them, but refugees in other parts of Sudan depended on UNHCR. In April, some camps did not receive food rations. Refugees reportedly enjoyed access to the Government's Islamic welfare system.
Refugees had the same access as nationals to local health care facilities. UNHCR maintained free clinics for both locals and refugees in all 12 camps. In Wadi Sherife and other camps in eastern Sudan for Eritrean refugees, the camp hospitals lacked drugs, and residents incurred gastrointestinal diseases by drinking water from the nearby canal. In March, residents of Anuak refugee camp contracted cholera. In August, flooding, unclean drinking water, and poor sanitation caused more outbreaks of gastro-intestinal diseases in Kilo 26, Wadi Sherife, Shagarab, Abuda, and Girba camps. The malnutrition rate in camps reached nearly 16 percent, which along with malaria, respiratory illness, and diarrhea caused abnormally high rates of infant and maternal mortality. In Khartoum, there were three free HIV testing centers but only one in eastern Sudan and no translators for Eritreans and Ethiopians. Anti-retroviral treatment was available in all centers except in eastern Sudan.
Refugees in cities could attend public elementary schools which followed the state Islamic curriculum. Camp-based schools reported an enrollment of only 60 percent, and they often lacked supplies.
Sudan did not include refugees from neighboring countries in its poverty eradication plan.
USCRI Reports
- USCR Urges President Bush to Condemn Khartoum's Genocide and Act Now to Save Hundreds of Thousands of Lives in Darfur (Press Releases)
- Stop the Genocide in Darfur, Mr. President U.S. Official Says One Million People May Die (Press Releases)
- Africa: Nearly 2 Million Uprooted by New Violence in 19 African Countries Last Year (Press Releases)
- Africa: New Displacement of Nearly 3 Million Africans Largely Unnoticed by Rest of World (Press Releases)
- Largely Ignored by International Community, Yearlong Massive Displacement and Death in Western Sudan's Darfur Region Continues (Press Releases)


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What I find most intriguing about Singularity's approach to time manipulation is that it treats time as a force, one that controls both rebirth and entropy. Instead of moving through the time stream mid-combat, you affect the environment and enemies around you, applying the power of time to age, revert, or otherwise manipulate the target.
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Singularity's approach to making the traditional first-person shooter a more lively, more unique experience is admirable. The time-warped setting is enough of a hook to pique my interest, while the fundamentally sound gunplay I experienced assured me that this would be one to watch.

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|2010-04-27, 16:06
|Link #6981
Honyaku no Hime
Join Date: May 2008
Location: In the eastern capital of the islands of the rising suns...
It makes a difference to the people who you have bonds with, who you get on with, who you love and vice versa.
When a person dies, it leaves an irresplacable vaccum that'll never be filled.
Even the death of someone who is hated has some kinda benefit, means a person can get on with whatever they wanna achieve (see tyrants of history being overthrown), but there's value in life.
It's all too precious and all too fleeting and finite in our present states, of course, if a person lives in relative comfort as a lot of us here do, then cherishing it is to be highly unlikely, sadly...
It's just unfortunate when a person hasn't experienced pleasant situations to see their worth or when all they know is pain and hatred.
(Then again, there are plently of stories of those who should have died/commited suicide or go on a school shooting spree who fight and better themselves for something semi decent)
|2010-04-27, 21:17
|Link #6982
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 29
But given the fact how fast paced the world runs today, everything is boiled down to numbers and more numbers, that another dead man on the street just becomes :
Oh it is another dead person. Lalala~
It is more about adapting to society by adapting to the "dog-eat-dog" thinking of the rest, so as to "fit in" and avoid being seen as a gullible "idealistic carebear who knows nothing about the social norms". But I do keep a minimal of my conscience to avoid ending up like the rest of the losers.
The survivalist mentality to avoid trouble or ruination of personal image came back to us in the form of occurences like the Columbine and Virginia, where people take the idea of "to live, you have to fight" to the literal extreme.
As sure as you don't know the person, why not call 911 rather than taking a photo with that camera phone? I don't see how one can get into trouble calling 911 for aid and assistance.
|2010-04-27, 23:33
|Link #6983
Join Date: Mar 2006
For someone like me, who has spent years in customer service....I've never once treated any customer as less than human unless they truly did something that removed all doubt that they had no respect in kind . Even customers that really pushed the line got a smile and the best possible service I could provide. You'd be surprised at how many people are irate that the system simply doesn't care, but by finding someone who treats them as a person instead of just a faceless customer their whole attitude changes and they become much more pleasant and it's easier to find a satisfactory resolution.
My attitude works in reverse as well. When dealing with customer service I put myself in their shoes and show patience, use polite words and manners, and try to be as concise as possible with my problem. It doesn't do much good to call up and scream into the phone at some person getting paid 8 bucks an hour.
All I'm really saying is that even if you don't really know a person, they'll be much more inclined to give you the respect and compassion of a human being when you treat them like one too. You may care more on a personal level (following the monkeysphere theory), but that doesn't mean you should limit your caring to just the bubble simply because the rest are faceless.
Maybe I'm just naive. *shrug*
|2010-04-28, 00:34
|Link #6984
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Vereinigte Staaten
Age: 26
Of course, this should be obvious. People who think to be virtuous is naive are just stupid or materialistic. Virtue is the greatest human rationality.
|2010-04-28, 01:00
|Link #6985
I don't give a damn, dude
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Despair
Age: 32
I'm actually not too surprised at this latest case of apathy from a group of people actually; the bystander effect has been well known and extensively studied in the field of social psychology ever since as far back as 1964; this, really, is just the latest case of that.
Therefore, I would contradict Solace's argument that the reason heart attacks are so often fatal is because bystanders don't know CPR; I would say it's more likely that a group of people would look at each other and gauge the necessity of action from each other's behaviour; because everyone ends up doing the same thing i.e. nothing, no one will take the initiative.
An alternative reason would be that the individuals in the same group of people all assume that someone else is going to or has already intervened, and thus refraining themselves from intervening. This is especially so if they believe that for example, someone else has already called the police, or someone else is a doctor and can provide superior assistance to themselves, etc. etc., which means they might be offering unwanted assistance.
I'll not be so quick to condemn the people in the video (except perhaps the camphone kid, and even then....). It's an unfortunate effect of our psychological makeup, and one which thankfully can be superseded; by someone who is aware of this psychological effect, and can overcome it by taking the initative to help the person, and asking others to assist however they can (e.g. ask that guy over that to call the cops, ask if anyone in the group's a doctor or nurse, etc. etc.).
|2010-04-28, 03:07
|Link #6986
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep
I would think the "bystander effect" the shrink mentioned on the clip has nothing to do with this particular case, as there were no crowds of people around the man dying.
All the people shown were individuals that passed by and did nothing, not gawk at the situation from a crowd.
So yes, it is directly a morality issue of the passerbys.
Especially the man who simply took pictures on his cell phone and walked off without calling 911 with that very phone he just used.
That is a disgusting behavior, and I can't imagine what is going on through that young man's head.
|2010-04-28, 03:43
|Link #6987
I don't give a damn, dude
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Despair
Age: 32
In the case of this clip, we only see what the video camera saw. And suffice to say, the field of view of that camera is rather....limited.
* Darley, J. M. & Latané, B. (1968). Bystander intervention in emergencies: Diffusion of responsibility. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 8, 377-383.
|2010-04-28, 06:00
|Link #6988
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 29
Happening in NYC where there is a appreciable population, it could still kick in that kind of thinking.
Anyway :
Greece Cut to Junk at S&P as Contagion Spreads
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|2010-04-28, 07:24
|Link #6989
Disabled By Request
Give Solace a medal!
Anyways, I think that as many advancements society has made throughout its history, especially 20th century history, a lot of people's mentalities are stuck in the pre-historic era wherein you live by the philosophy to "Live and let Die." I find this especially common among people who have more to lose. Money, fame, power, influence, posessions, people value their lives according to how much they own, not by who they are as people. That's where the survivalist mentality comes from, and that's how people likely thought in the beginning of mankind. Our posessions have increased, both in quantity and quality, but how we treat what we have hasn't changed at all.
The fact of the matter is that people don't realize we all walk on the same earth, all of us are human beings. What a lot of people don't understand is that life isn't valued by what we have, but who we are as men. It's not all about owning a Mercedes, or having a 3 floor villa, but it's about who would care if you died? By this, I don't mean "how many people would care?" An entire population made of millions of people would care, but who are those people to you compared to your family? Why would they care? Do they care because you were good to them and they mourn you because you will be missed, or will they care because now they can live happier that you're gone because of all the things you did to them? That's what defines how much you're worth as a human being.
Now the problem with people not caring about a guy who'se obviously dying on the street is because those people will think that it's not their problem, they have better things to do and this life isn't as much worth as mine. How do you know that? How do you know that, as a human being, he is not as worth as you? Do you know him? Who are you to decide these things? Would you think it is right for them not to help you if you were the one in his death throes out on the street? Do you know if he has family, friends? Is it right to just assume that a homeless man has no family? You don't know that, you can't know unless you ask, and they only way to do that? Save him. Do the right thing and call 911. Regardless of legal implications, it is humane to help. He is another human being living the same world, going through the same hardships you, as a human, are going through in this plane of existence.
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|2010-04-28, 09:48
|Link #6990
Takao Tsundere Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Classified
Venezuela leader Hugo Chavez takes to Twitter
I wonder if he ever responds if someone criticizes him on Twitter?
|2010-04-28, 11:10
|Link #6991
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 61
Greece seems to be having a "California"-ish problem. They need to tighten their economic belt... but the middle and working classes are pissed because the pain is not being shared equally (from what I can tell from afar). Its the classic class of the rich getting to tiptoe around the problem (often caused by their decision-making) while the masses take the pain. OTOH.... I'm getting the sensation that the average citizen may be unwilling to take *any* personal pain to solve the problem, so the entire country looks a bit like a "don't wanna" tantrum. Hard to tell through media filters, the US corporate media is horrendous on the topic and the BBC/DW reports aren't really doing much "why" analysis, just reporting on the fracas.
|2010-04-28, 12:05
|Link #6992
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: South America
The funny thing is that messages on the site are limited to 140 characters or fewer, and he's used to very long speeches.
|2010-04-28, 14:48
|Link #6993
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
Of course, we've found ways to cope. We've had to, to build our societies and live together. That's why we have concepts like courtesies, or laws. Or, heck, even altruism. We can't truly bring ourselves to care about everyone as our siblings... but we can pretend.
And hey, it's not to say that some people don't risk life and limb for the faceless. It's not to say heroes don't walk among us.
You know, it's going to be hilarious if one of you guys on you moral high horses finds himself in that kind of situation... and freezes. I mean, I'm sure if you'd asked those people on that video, they'd have said you have to help. It's not like they woke up that morning with the intent of being assholes. It's like the Milgram experiment. If you'd asked the subject one hour before it began, they wouldn't have thought they had it in them to be torturers.
You never know. Maybe you'll be one of those guys (other cracked article to restore your faith in humanity.) But ask yourself: do you like your odds?
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|2010-04-28, 15:17
|Link #6994
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
In short: German and French banks own a large part of the Greece debt and in case of a default stand to loose $120 billion. The Greek government faced with strong popular opposition is trying to negotiate a deal is acceptable to both the other European countries and their people. The German government is playing hardball in the negotiations as a result of home election pressure, they can't afford to be seen as soft.
If Greece were the only vulnerable country there would not have been such a big problem. Unfortunately there is a contagion risk that could cause Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Italy to come under pressure as well. That's why Europe and IMF are very likely to try everything to prevent a Greek default, even if only delaying it by one or two years. Should things go wrong and market speculation causes more defaults then many European banks will fail. We are talking about a cost along the lines of about 25-50% of subprime mortgage crisis so it could have a global impact. The IMF is very active in attempting to shore up Greece as I doubt Washington would like to see a second round of bank bailouts.
The Greek government in the mean time has some space to negotiate terms as they are aware that other countries have a strong incentive to help them out of a sense of self preservation. Needles to say this has resulted in a hate frenzy against Greece in the popular press.
|2010-04-28, 16:32
|Link #6995
AS Oji-kun
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In your bloodstream
Age: 68
Japan to Launch Solar Sail Spacecraft "Ikaros"
When I was a kid in the 50's and 60's I read all of the "Tom Swift, Jr." series of books about a teenaged inventor. (There had been a series of earlier books about Tom's dad that appeared in the 1930's along with the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew series.) Tom invented a number of spacecraft that used "sails" and solar pressure to travel, detailed in Tom Swift and the Cosmic Astronauts (1960). Funny to see how that's actually coming to pass.
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|2010-04-28, 23:11
|Link #6996
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Vereinigte Staaten
Age: 26
|2010-04-29, 00:10
|Link #6997
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
|2010-04-29, 05:45
|Link #6998
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 29
So.........when do we get one named Nymph and Astraea?
If you take a look carefully at the picture, Spain produces the most debt, while Germany holds the most. And the SEC's idea of building junk bonds to sell is just the subprime crisis all over again, this time the homes are that of many people, not just individuals.
On the other hand, if they manage to pay the debt off.......anyone who bought the bonds are going to end up seriously rich.
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i don't think Regan if he was running in 2010 could have earn the support of the teabaggers.
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Lamb with Spinach
Makes 4 servings
In this recipe the distinctive flavor of lamb is enhanced by the bell peppers, eggplant, tomatoes and spinach. This is a hearty dish, and if you like to serve lamb in the spring, you will love having this alternative seasoning method.
Find this recipe and more in Chef Paul Prudhomme's Fiery Foods That I Love.
4 tablespoons Chef Paul Prudhomme's Meat Magic®
1½ teaspoons ground turmeric
1 teaspoon ground cloves
1 teaspoon ground coriander
½ teaspoon ground fenugreek
½ teaspoon ground mace
1 tablespoon minced fresh garlic
1 tablespoon minced fresh ginger
4 medium-size lamb shanks
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
3 cups chopped onions
1 cup chopped green bell peppers
1 cup chopped red bell peppers
1 cup chopped yellow bell peppers
1 large eggplant, peeled, cut in half lengthwise, and thinly sliced into half-moon-shaped pieces (about 8 cups)
½ cup thinly sliced fresh ginger
2 (14½-ounce) cans diced tomatoes
1 (10 ounce) bag fresh spinach, washed and stemmed
¼ cup lightly packed dark brown sugar
how to prepare
Combine the first six ingredients in a small bowl to make the Seasoning Mix, then add the garlic and minced ginger. Cut 4 or 5 pockets into each lamb shank by piercing the meat with a thin sharp knife and, without enlarging the point of entry, working the knife back and forth to form the pockets. Divide the seasoning mixture evenly among the pockets, and push these seasonings as far into the pockets as possible. Rub the surface of the meat with any seasoning that spills.
Heat the oil in a heavy 8-quart pot over high heat just until the oil begins to smoke, about 5 minutes. Brown the shanks in the hot oil, covered, about 8 or 9 minutes on each side. If you don't have such a large pot, a smaller one will work fine--just brown the shanks in batches. Transfer the lamb to a roasting pan.
Add the onions and bell peppers to the pot and scrape the bottom of the pot well. Add the eggplant, ginger, and tomatoes, then cover and cook, stirring occasionally, for 25 minutes. Stir in the spinach and brown sugar and cook, covered, for 5 minutes. Set the oven to 350°. Remove the pot from the heat and arrange the cooked vegetables around the lamb in the roasting pan. Roast until you can easily pull the meat away from the bones with a fork, about 1 hour and 50 minutes. To be sure the meat is completely done, test the biggest shank-if it's tender and the meat pulls away from the bone easily, the others will be done as well. Serve with the bones, or remove them first.


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WEYBRIDGE — The Weybridge selectboard last week held an emergency meeting at which they appointed Brenda Jaring as interim Weybridge town clerk and treasurer. Jaring, in turn, will appoint New Haven resident Beverly Landon as assistant town clerk and assistant treasurer.
The board had previously named Landon to the interim jobs, but later discovered through the Vermont Secretary of State's Office that they couldn't take that action because Landon is not a Weybridge resident.


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Philip David Charles Collins, LVO (born 30 January 1951) is an English singer-songwriter, drummer, keyboardist and actor best known as a drummer and vocalist for English progressive rock group Genesis and as a solo artist.
Collins sang the lead vocals on several chart hits in the United Kingdom and the United States between 1978 and 1994, either as a solo artist or with Genesis. His singles, often dealing with lost love, ranged from the drum-heavy "In the Air Tonight", dance pop of "Sussudio", piano-driven "Against All Odds", to the political statements of "Another Day in Paradise". His international popularity transformed Genesis from a progressive rock group to a regular on the pop charts and an early MTV mainstay.
Collins's professional music career began as a drummer, first with Flaming Youth and then more famously with Genesis. In Genesis, Collins originally supplied backing vocals for front man Peter Gabriel, singing lead on only two songs: "For Absent Friends" from 1971's Nursery Cryme album and "More Fool Me" from Selling England by the Pound, which was released in 1973. Following Gabriel's departure in 1975, Collins became the group's lead singer. As the decade closed, Genesis's first international hit, "Follow You, Follow Me", demonstrated a drastic change from the band's early years.


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Online Dating Guide – Learn the Top 10 Excuses That Stop You From Finding Love on Online Dating Site
Millions of single men and women are seeking love on internet dating sites. Many are successfully finding their ideal love match online. Would you like to be one of them? You're about to learn the top 10 excuses that may be stopping you from finding love online, and what to do instead to meet your best love match.
Excuse 1. Who has time to look?
If you were out of work, how much time each day would you devote to your search for work?
If you are out of love, isn't your search for your love match equally important to you? If you are too busy to search for love, then you are too busy to create a loving relationship.
Will you devote a half-hour in your busy day to your online search for love?
Excuse 2. I tried online dating sites and had no luck
Some singles have said this after using an online dating site for a free trial weekend. Would you expect to find your ideal job by reading the want ads for one weekend? Is it realistic to expect that you would find your ideal love match online in a few days or months?
Will you toss out your arbitrary timetable and commit to your online search for your love match, however long it takes?
Excuse 3. I don't want to date until…
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The risks are diminished by built-in safeguards and guidelines used by most online dating sites. You create a screen name, and you won't give out your private contact information until you've most likely emailed or chatted by video, talked on the phone and met for coffee in a public place.
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The people who will see your online dating profile are also single and seeking a fulfilled love life, and they may be equally successful in their career. They understand how career demands can interfere with a search for a relationship. They are using innovative online dating searching and screening technology to explore the country and the world for their ideal match who shares and values the best qualities.
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Online dating websites can be wonderful platform to find out those people who cant wait to make new friends or meet new people. Gone are the days of going to the local pub and waiting the Ms. Perfect or Mr. Right. People are now all over the internet looking to find our soul mates through user-friendly, free dating websites. The best part about such websites is that you can find people who share similar interests like you do. For example, if you like motorsport, then you can easily find a person who also likes motorsport and then you can go ahead and connect. If things go fine, you can even come in contact with the person and look forward for a wonderful time.
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Curricular integration principles for virtual patients: a focus group study among students
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|5. Mai 2009
Purpose: To examine students' views on the ideal curricular integration of virtual patients (VPs) to foster learning.
Methods: 120 fourth year medical students worked on at least eight VPs in six different blended learning scenarios. The integration scenarios differed concerning sequence, tutor guidance, small group work, and patient involvement. Nine groups of 4-9 randomly selected students (n=39) participated in focus-group discussions facilitated by a moderator using a questioning route. The interviews were videotaped, transcribed and analysed. Summary reports were approved by the students.
Results: VPs should be integrated in curricula according to the following 11 principles:
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- It should be possible to work on VPs flexibly;
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- VP work and corresponding teaching events should be soundly adapted to each other (blended learning);
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- The connection of VP work and corresponding teaching events should be explicitly stressed;
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- Lectures or seminars should take place before working with VPs;
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- Ideally, VP work should be followed by meeting a real patient;
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- Small group wrap-up-sessions after working with VPs should be offered, especially in complex cases;
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- Wrap-up sessions concerning two VPs with the same leading symptom but different diagnoses should be considered;
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- Tutors of wrap-up sessions should be well informed about the VPs and well trained in facilitating small groups;
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- Optimal single scenario: (i) Lecture, (ii) VP, (iii) wrap-up-session, (iv) real patient;
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- VPs should be relevant for the exam;
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- VPs should be offered throughout the medical curriculum in all preclinical and clinical subjects.
Conclusion: Students perceived the described curricular integration principles of VPs as highly relevant for their learning. Future studies will address the effects of these principles in quantitative controlled designs.


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STOCKTON - David Jorgensen is a young, talented motorcycle rider with a well-known surname who is just trying to have fun.
STOCKTON - David Jorgensen is a young, talented motorcycle rider with a well-known surname who is just trying to have fun.
And when it comes to racing, winning is more fun.
Jorgensen, a longtime motocross competitor, recently switched over to flat track racing and has won twice in his first four Open B events. He's scheduled to compete in the short track show today at Lodi Cycle Bowl.
Jorgensen, a Stockton resident, is the son of retired local racing legend Alex Jorgensen, who won 10 Grand National races and is one of few pro riders who has won motorcycle racing's version of the cycle - winning a short track, a tourist trophy, half mile and mile event in his career.
David Jorgensen said his last name does get attention.
"I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a little bit of pressure from being my father's son," David Jorgensen said. "But it's fine, I'm proud of what he's accomplished. And I'm mainly riding for myself, and having fun."
David and his brother, A.J. Jorgensen, 27, built the 2006 RMZ 450 bike together. They missed some early-season races, so David isn't considered a challenger for a points title, but that's not what this season is about.
Alex Jorgensen, 59, said he understands his son's approach to the sport.
"I think he's doing good. He looks good and smooth," said Alex Jorgensen, who owns Jorgy's motorcycle shop on Wilson Way in Stockton. "He's having fun, which is a good thing. If he wanted to run seriously this season, than he and his brother would have rushed to finish the bike. But they took their time, did it right and he's been doing well."
Having fun doesn't mean David Jorgensen isn't taking this seriously.
"Winning is the most fun," David Jorgensen said with a smile. "I want to do my best and move forward. I'd like to move up to Open A next season, so we'll see what happens."
Gates open at 2 p.m. today, and racing begins at 5:30 p.m.
The track is dark this weekend, but racing returns on July 6 with the annual Independence Day event.
The NASCAR Western Late Models will run the 51/50 Fireworks 125 on that date. It's the second leg of the Tri-Holiday Classic. The event will also feature racing in the Grand American Modifieds, Super Stocks, Pure Stocks, and B-4s divisions.
The Western Late Model open show July 4 at Stockton 99 Dirt Track at the San Joaquin County Fairgrounds has been cancelled. The next show at the fairgrounds will be the King of the West Sprint Car Series on Aug. 3.
Contact reporter Scott Linesburgh at (209) 546-8281 or email@example.com.


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Rabbitohs roll through Dragons
The South Sydney Rabbitohs have gone through the motions to defeat the St. George Illawarra Dragons 36-14 in front of a crowd of 21,071 at ANZ Stadium.
Andrew Everingham started off quickly with a race away off some great passes to give the Rabbitohs first points. Adam Reynolds converted from out wide to make it 6-0 after three minutes.
The Rabbitohs shifted the ball through Greg Inglis on the left side to send Nathan Merritt in for the first of his three four-pointers. Everingham was in the action to give the Rabbitohs the field position with a brilliant line break. Reynolds failed to convert, Souths 10-0 after ten minutes.
Not to be out done on the flanks, Brett Morris strolled over for the first of his double after the Dragons found possession deep in the Rabbitohs half. After 16 minutes, the Rabbitohs lead 10-4.
The video referee called upon to review Nathan Merritt's second try after he managed to ground the football off the kick from Reynolds. The try awarded and the Rabbitohs ahead by 12 points, 16-4 after 26 minutes.
A moment which caused a outrage from League fans saw Greg Inglis placed on report for head high contact on Dean Young. The shoulder charge saw Young stretched off the field in a neck brace. It was only a precautionary measure.
After the drama, the half time siren sounded minutes later to see the Rabbitohs 16 lead the Dragons 4.
The video referee call upon again, this time to review Matt King's possible try. It was awarded as King managed to ground the ball down despite the efforts from Jason Nightingale. Rabbitohs well ahead, 26-4 with 15 minutes to play.
Match Details
South Sydney Rabbitohs 36 defeated St George Illawarra Dragons 14
National Rugby League - Round 20 - Saturday July 21, 2012 7:30pm
Venue: ANZ Stadium
Referee: Tony Archer and Gavin Morris
Video Referee: Sean Hampstead
Touch Judges: Jeff Younis and Adam Gee
Crowd: 21,071
Halftime: South Sydney Rabbitohs 16 St George Illawarra Dragons 4
Leagueunlimited.com players of the match:
3 Points - Adam Reynolds (5 Conversions)
2 Points - Nathan Merritt (3 Tries)
1 Point - Michael Crocker
Tries: John Sutton, Greg Inglis, Matt King, Nathan Merritt (3), Andrew Everingham
Conversions: Adam Reynolds (4/7)
Tries: Ben Creagh, Brett Morris (2)
Conversions: Jamie Soward (1/3)
LeagueUnlimited.com Live Commentary Welcome to League Unlimited's coverage LIVE from ANZ Stadium with South Sydney Rabbitohs hosting the St. George Illawarra Dragons.
In TEAM NEWS: Dragons are 1 through 12; Jack de Belin starts in place of Young (benched). Nathan Fien OUT, Jake Marketo added to bench in jersey 18.
Rabbitohs - Eddy Pettybourne, Nathan Peats start in place of Luke Burgess and Issac Luke (OUT). Ben Lowe and Dave Tyrrell added to bench
We are moments away from kick off here at ANZ Stadium, both sides going through their final preparations in the sheds.
1 min: We are UNDERWAY at ANZ Stadium with the Rabbitohs kicking off to give the Dragons first use of the ball
3 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
Andrew Everingham races away off some great passes from his teammates. A simple line break from Souths gives them field position to claim first points. Adam Reynolds struck it well to convert from out wide.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 6-0
7 min: Zero tackle for the Dragons, Michael Crocker ruled to have played at Hornby's kick. The Dragons on the attack inside the Souths 30 metre line.
10 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
Nathan Merritt has scored off the back of a great shifting play from Inglis. The Rabbitohs got in position to score after a brilliant line break and run from Andrew Everingham. Adam Reynolds with the conversion attempt pushed it across the face.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 10-0
13 min: KNOCK ON! Off a beautiful run from Dave Taylor who made a line break offloaded to Andrew Everingham who failed to take the ball clean. He dropped it and the Dragons have possession off a scrum feed on their 20 metre line.
14 min: Bad to worse for Souths, penalty to the Dragons against Dave Taylor for holding down in the ruck. The free kick from Soward finds the touchline just shy of half way.
14 min: Eddy Pettybourne has been cut open and gone to the blood bin behind the play as the Dragons attack 30 metres from the Rabbitohs line.
16 min: TRY
TRY! St. George Illawarra Dragons
Daniel Vidot held up over the goal line, Merritt did well to stop him. But on the last the Dragons spread it to the right and found Jason Nightingale who threw the beautiful pass to Brett Morris to stroll over. Jamie Soward failed to convert with a widen conversion.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 10-4
19 min: PENALTY! Dragons earn another penalty as Dave Taylor again holds down the play of the ball. They march up field off the kick restart to attack inside the Rabbitohs 30 metre line.
20 min: Another penalty to the Dragons, they now attack deep in the Souths half.
21 min: Forward pass called against the Dragons, they cough up possession. The Rabbitohs with the ball through a scrum feed on their 10 metre line.
23 min: KNOCK ON! Chase Stanley in the tackle failed to hold on to the ball. The Rabbitohs pack another scrum deep in their half, they have possession on their 20 metre line.
24 min: Penalty awarded to the Rabbitohs against Ben Creagh for failing to clear the ruck. That is the first penalty to the Rabbitohs. Free kick taken which finds them attack on the Dragons 30 metre line.
25 min: Video Referee for the Rabbitohs. Possible for Nathan Merritt
26 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
Nathan Merritt is awarded the try after he managed to ground the ball off the kick. Adam Reynolds with an easier attempt at conversion added the two points.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 16-4
30 min: There is some concern for Adam Reynolds after taking Jason Nightingale in a tackle after he took the bomb.
31 min: KNOCK ON! Daniel Vidot ruled to have knocked on in the contest for the ball in the corner. Souths survive and attack out of their red zone.
32 min: We will need a review of this play. Greg Inglis collected Dean Young high with the elbow
32 min: Dean Young is still down and will be stretched off the field. Greg Inglis will be placed on report at this stage
32 min: Greg Inglis very lucky to stay on the field. He was placed on report and the penalty given to the Dragons.
36 min: Video Referee denied Chase Stanley after he slide in goal. He was held up by Greg Inglis before he could get over the line.
39 min: KNOCK ON! Matt Prior knocked it on as he contested the kick. Souths get the ball off the change over.
40 min: HALF TIME at ANZ Stadium: South Sydney 16 lead St. George Illawarra 4
Both sides returning from the sheds ahead of the second half here at ANZ Stadium. Kick off moments away
41 min: We are back for the second half with the Dragons kick off.
48 min: Penalty to the Dragons against Michael Crocker for taking out Ben Hornby after the kick. Massive chance for the Dragons attacking inside the Souths 20 metre line.
48 min: Penalty to the Dragons against Michael Crocker for taking out Ben Hornby after the kick. Massive chance for the Dragons attacking inside the Souths 20 metre line.
49 min: Chase Stanley looked for the line but lost the ball short of the line. Souths with the ball with a scrum feed on their 10 metre line.
50 min: Penalty against Jason Nightingale for having a second dig in the tackle. Adam Reynolds finds the line and the Rabbitohs have possession.
52 min: Another penalty to the Rabbitohs after a high shot on Sam Burgess. They attack 30 metres out from the Dragons line.
54 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
Greg Inglis strolls through the line to extend. A very simple four-pointer for Inglis. Adam Reynolds pushed the kick wide and no goal.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 20-4
60 min: Penalty to the Rabbitohs. They attacking on the Dragons 10 metre line.
61 min: VIDEO REFEREE for the Rabbitohs. Possible try for the Rabbitohs, looking at a knock on
63 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
Matt King powers through the line and managed to ground the ball without losing it. Adam Reynolds converts.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 26-4
66 min: TRY
TRY! St George Illawarra Dragons
Ben Creagh hit back for the Dragons quickly after the Rabbitohs try as the Dragons spread the ball to the left side to score. Soward with a quick conversion attempt closed the gap.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 26-10
70 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
John Sutton with a step crashed over the line for the Rabbitohs, a simple play extend the lead. Reynolds converts
South Sydney Rabbitohs 32-10
75 min: TRY
TRY! St George Illawarra Dragons
Brett Morris received a wonderful pass from Jason Nightingale as the Dragons spread it to the right side of the field. He collected his second of the night. Jamie Soward failed to convert as he stabbed it quickly.
South Sydney Rabbitohs 32-14
78 min: TRY
TRY! South Sydney Rabbitohs
Nathan Merritt strolled through the line to claim his hat trick for the game. A wonderful result after Adam Reynolds broke the line and ran 70 metres up field. Reynolds missed the kick on the full time siren
South Sydney Rabbitohs 36-14
80 min: FULL TIME at ANZ Stadium: South Sydney Rabbitohs 36 have powered through the Dragons 14 in front of 21,071


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Matt Hardy HI Todd,
The training is going well. If you want some advice on training im glad to help. Since the trip is about 3 months away I feel like this is the best time to start training hard. This will allow you to peak in fitness during your trip. Right now im trying to train 5 times a week. I usually bike twice a week for 40-60 miles and rock climb the remaining 3 days of training. Since it's starting to get cold here in Colorado I'm trying to hike more with a pack. It's going to be a damn slog up that mountain so the better prepared I am to carry a heavy pack the better off i'll be. If your just looking to get in good cardio shape, try wearing a pack and running with it uphill for 1 minute than try 5 minutes off just walking. This will get you in great shape in no time.....do it for one hour.
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The Brothers Behind Devil Talk Horror, P.O.V. & Shyamalan
M. Night Shyamalan may be the name which gets the most immediate and visceral reaction from horror fans who view the trailer for Universal's upcoming Devil, but looking past the twist-laden director's role as story man and executive producer for the September 17 horror film finds the movie in the hands of brothers Drew and John Erick Dowdle.
Best known for their respective producing and directing roles on the 2008 screamer "Quarantine" (whose screenplay they also adapted from the Spanish flick [REC]), the Dowdle Brothers joined the production of Devil shortly after Shyamalan turned his original story over to screenwriter Brian Nelson. Starring Chris Messina, Bojana Novakovic, Bokeem Woodbine, Geoffrey Arend and Caroline Dhavernas as a quintet of elevator riders who become trapped only to learn that one of them is a murderous supernatural force.
Spinoff Online had the chance to catch up with producer Drew Dowdle and his older director brother John Erick Dowdle at the recent Wizard World Chicago Comic Con, and the natives of the Twin Cities revealed the influence of hometown heroes The Coen Brothers on their working relationship, their roots in horror and genre films, their take on the growth in P.O.V. fright fests and how working in a tight space with Shyamalan helped them make a movie that they hope is as cryptic and mysterious as it is scary.
Spinoff Online: Before we get to the specifics on "Devil" itself, I wanted to ask about your outlook on the work division between you. You've got a lot of brother teams in Hollywood who make movies together and take different roles, how did you find your current producer/director titles?
John Erick Dowdle: If we go way back, I think the way this all started was that I was writing all the time from around the time I was 14. Drew's a little younger than me, and I couldn't show any of my friends my writing because it would look a little weird, but Drew is something I could tell anything to. So I'd bring my writing across the hall and show it to him, and he'd give notes, and then I'd go back into my room and rework it. We started this working relationship way back then, and we knew as adults we wanted to work together. We weren't sure on what, but we thought it'd have something to do with writing or film. I ended up going to film school at NYU, and Drew ended up…
Drew Dowdle: Going to business school at Michigan. We really liked the Coen Brothers. Their model was what we were going for because they were our hometown guys – one directs, one produces. They co-writer and both control everything about their movies. How cool is that? That's how we want to do it. We wanted both sides of that, and we have different personalities. As kids, John was always more creative, and I was always a bit more square and detail-oriented. I was good at math and things like that.
John: But Drew is the better communicator. I remember in first grade or kindergarden, I was the kid going, "Let's put on a carnival, and we'll invite all the kids in the neighborhood!" and Drew would be like, "Well, we're going to need this and this, and we're going to have to put signs here and there and do fortunes over there." [Laughter] It was like the mini versions of us now. I think those divisions are innate.
Drew: They are innate, but I don't do anything on the producing end of things without going to him and having him contribute, and it's the same thing when we're on set. We're sitting next to each other at the monitors talking about every take, and I get to get my directing kicks through him. It's a good way to keep us firmly entrenched in those sides.
What draws you guys to horror specifically? So far, your horror films haven't gone into slasher film territory or torture porn or these other reliable genres we know for that genre. Do you consider yourselves horror guys first and foremost, or has it just been where things have led?
John: It's a good question. We've had a lot of fun doing the horror we've done, but there are two kinds of horror. There's "The Shining" and then there's…
"Freddy Versus Jason!"
John: Exactly! Those feel very different to us, and we wouldn't just do a genre film because it's a genre film. A lot of the stuff we look at, we'll say, "No. That's just not what we're after." This movie is sort of a supernatural thriller/horror thriller kind of a film, and in the future I could see us doing more thrillers and more other genre stuff.
Drew; It's funny. Growing up, we were obviously huge horror film fans, but we always thought we'd do comedy. Our earlier stuff was more dark comedy-driven as maybe another homage to the Coen Brothers. Our first film was a comedy, and then John had the idea for "The Poughkeepsie Tapes" one day when we were spit-balling ideas around. He went, "What about a faux-documentary about a serial killers home video tapes?" and in that moment we became genre guys. We dropped a comedy we'd been working on for six months with committed investors right then. We put it aside and changed gears and went off on the "Poughkeepsie Tapes" path, and we got better known for it because that got a lot more attention than our first film. Now we've done "Quarantine" and "Devil," and this is a great genre. I can see us doing non-thriller/horror movies in the future at some point, but the things we're looking at next are all thrillers. So maybe we'll be one step out from this stuff, but we like those experiential, intense movies a lot, and genre films allow you to get a lot crazier.
John: I don't think we'll do "Rudy" or something like that. [Laughter] That's not in our wheelhouse.
Drew: And we've had a lot of ideas for dramas that seem really cool, but they all have a bit of a dark edge to them.
For a while, we've seen this cinéma vérité/documentary/handheld style of horror movies growing in popularity, and it really peaked last year. People like that both because the first person stuff draws people in but also because it's low-budget. You did some of that with "Poughkeepsie Tapes" and "Quarantine," but it seems you've receded a bit more with each movie, and now "Devil" appears to have very little. How do you view that aspect of the genre now that you've moved past it a little?
John: It's such a fun style, that point of view style. We love it and had a blast doing it. It's a great study in terms of learning blocking and things you wouldn't have to learn in a traditional cinema creation.
Drew: Learning how to create tension without relying on score too much. In the more traditional style, you can over-rely on devices like score and coverage to create tension, but when you're shooting P.O.V./found footage style, you've got the blocking and the scene. That's it. I feel like it's made us better filmmakers in that it's a harder style. But it's interesting. When we were making "Poughkeepsie Tapes," a big part of our pitch was "People are so used to shooting things on their Flips and putting stuff on YouTube that this aesthetic is not a fad. It's a new part of cinema, and it's here to stay." I get really excited when a movie like "Paranormal Activity" does so well, and I'd love to see those kinds of movies continue to be successful so it's a long term style of cinema.
And it seems like it's empowering to up and coming people to some extent. You don't have to go to a studio to make a real movie anymore.
Drew: Absolutely. We programmed for Slamdance, which is a festival in Park City, and it's amazing how many submissions that are coming in are not just genre films shot in that style but all types of movies done first person style.
John: It worked for us, thank God! We did a $30,000 feature and then a half million dollar feature, and we shot them on video. And without those, we wouldn't be able to be doing this.
How did "Devil" come together for you? I know M. Night Shyamalan wrote the treatment. Did you two come on right away, or did the project move around a bit before you came and put your spin on it?
John: We came on right away. Night had hired the writer Brian Nelson who did "Hard Candy" and "30 Days of Night." He was working on the script when Night found us and hired us, so we were there really from the beginning before anyone had read a draft of the script. As soon as Brian finished a draft, we all read through it and gave different ideas on different things. We were there for a year before we started shooting.
Drew: We were hired a month and a half or so before Brian's draft was due, and we got to work with him and contribute a lot of ideas for our own. We felt like we had a really nice influence on the screenplay from the very early stages, and then Brian took it home.
The premise – a group of people trapped in an elevator, one of whom is some kind of malevolent supernatural force – is intriguing for a few reasons, but something that stands out to me in terms of the challenge of making that story work is that each of the characters needs to have a lot going on to keep the mystery up. They need to be a little charming, a little relatable, a little shady, a little vulnerable…how did that effect casting? Did you work a lot on red herrings to throw the concepts into upheaval a little?
John: Absolutely. For us, a huge part of the development of this was that every time you cut to the elevator, something needs to change. You can't just have five people in an elevator bickering and keep that interesting. Drew was the first one who really started talking about "the spotlight of suspicion." There has to be a spotlight of suspicion that moves from one person to the next in very tangible, very clear moment. We really focused a lot of attention on going, "Now we think it's this person. Oh wait! But then something happens, and now we think it's this guy!" To keep that motion keeps the film interesting.
Drew: And keeping it sustained on one person for a little length of time – a little bit of you, a little bit of you, a little bit of you – we thought that might exhaust an audience. We want to spend some time to really focus on "This guy might be it" in distinct moments. And an audience might go, "Oh, the filmmakers are telling me it's him, so it must be anyone but him!" And that reaction is fine. It makes it a fun guessing game.
It's almost like doing it as Hitchcock would do…keeping the scenes very controlled and tight on one element at a time rather than just going, "And then there was an explosion…let's cut to the next reel!"
Drew: Totally. And we talked about how we want each scene in the elevator to be one character's scene. It's their moment, and we shoot it in this subjective style where if it's your scene, I'm shooting center punched and then looking from your point of view. With the script, we had to really analyze every elevator scene going sequentially through the movie and decide which scene was whose scene and how we would tailor the scene to them.
Are you flashing back to characters' supposed past as they hit their scene, or is it keeping all in the moment?
Drew: It's pretty much all in the moment. We joke that this is our third movie – and the next one if going to be the same thing – where nobody changes their clothes. [Laughter] It's all in one day.
Filming in an elevator – even an elevator set – is really confined. How do you keep the feeling on the set from being to static and claustrophobic, and with the final film, how do you make a small box cinematic?
John: A big part of it was using the subjective perspective where we're following what one character's looking at in scenes. That helped out a lot. And then trying to find ways to get a character high or low so we can move vertically is the kind of thing that helps switch it up. You don't feel like you're seeing the same elevator every time you're back there. And lights! We spent a lot of time in pre-production building lights. There's center-panel lights and can lights and a back light. So over the course of the film as things happened and spread, we could erode the elevator where the lighting made it feel like a totally different space at the end of the movie than it was at the beginning.
Drew: The production design really changes over the course of the movie. It visually stays fresh, and having a cinematographer like Tak Fujimoto – he's amazing. Having him working with the pre-production, our biggest goal was "How do we continue to make this elevator look really interesting? What can we do to enhance the intrigue over the course of the movie rather than let audiences get tired of the space?" That was the biggest single challenge.
This isn't a monster movie, but there's a definite supernatural element to what's going on. How do you achieve the kinds of thrills you want in terms of that true horror element in play?
John: For us, we love experimenting with not seeing a lot of stuff. "The Poughkeepsie Tapes" had a lot of the horrible stuff happen off camera. "Quarantine" dealt with a lot of the sound because it was so dark, and you could only see a few feet out in front of the camera in this tight beam where things keep coming from our of nowhere. In this, we really liked playing a lot with the darkness. The lights go out, and bad things happen. That's been really fun for us to play with. There's no picture at all.
Drew: It's nothing but sound, and when you see it in a full theater with surround sound and everything, that's when you feel like you're in the elevator the most. Your hear it all all around you. Once you use that device once in the movie and then drop the lights again, people know that something bad is going to happen. and it gets more and more fun.
This is probably the question you'll get more often than not, but because Night came up with the screen story, did you work with him to cook up a twist for the ending?
John: You'll have to see! [Laughter] Night's also very secretive, so we've got to be careful about what we say about the ending.
Devil, which stars Chris Messina, Bojana Novakovic, Bokeem Woodbine, Geoffrey Arend and Caroline Dhavernas, opens on Sept. 17.
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High Prevalence of Childhood Emotional, Physical and Sexual Trauma Among a Canadian Cohort of HIV-Seropositive Illicit Drug Users
August 17, 2011
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More resources are needed to respond to the long-term effects of childhood maltreatment upon injection drug users (IDU) who are HIV-positive, according to the current study. The authors examined the prevalence and correlates of antecedent emotional, physical, and sexual abuse among a community-recruited cohort of adult HIV-positive illicit drug users.
To estimate the prevalence of childhood abuse at baseline, the team used data from the Childhood Trauma Questionnaire, a 28-item validated instrument employed to retrospectively assess maltreatment during childhood. Logistic regression was conducted to estimate relationships between sub-types of childhood maltreatment with several social-demographic, drug-using, and clinical characteristics.
The analysis included 233 HIV-positive IDU, of whom 83 (35.6 percent) were women. Many participants reported moderate or severe emotional childhood abuse (51.9 percent), emotional neglect (36.9 percent), physical abuse (51.1 percent), physical neglect (46.8 percent), and sexual abuse (41.6 percent). In multivariate analyses, reports of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse were independently associated with greater odds of recent incarceration. In addition, emotional abuse and neglect were independently associated with a score of 16 or greater on the Center for Epidemiologic Studies Depression Scale.
"There was no association between any form of childhood maltreatment and clinical HIV variables, including viral load, CD4+ count, and history of antiretroviral therapy use," the authors reported. "These findings underscore the negative impact of childhood maltreatment on social functioning and mental health in later life. Given the substantial prevalence of childhood maltreatment among this population, there is a need for evidence-based resources to address the deleterious effect it has on the health and social functioning of HIV-positive IDU."
AIDS Care
06.2011; Vol. 23; No. 6: P. 714-721; Georgia Walton, Steven J. Co, M.-J. Milloy, Jiezhi Qi, Thomas Kerr, Evan Wood
This article was provided by CDC National Prevention Information Network. It is a part of the publication CDC HIV/Hepatitis/STD/TB Prevention News Update.
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