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Degenerative Disc Disease
I made a thread previously that talked about the symptoms my dog showed. At that time I was not sure what she had but she shows the following.
- Some times loses balance and falls while walking (usually when tired).
- Back feet and nails or worn off because of her dragging her toes against the pavement when walking.
- Some loss of appetite, although she still asks for my food.
These are the symptoms, she did grow some bumps on her body in here lifetime, but we got them removed. Some new bumps have appeared recently and getting them removed is getting very costly and we've spent thousands and the past few months taking care of her different problems. It's sad to admit it, but she is getting old (turning 11 in December). Her name is Angel and she is certainly one. By the way, she's a German shepherd.
The problem began a few months ago after having her surgery on her belly to get an ugly bump removed. This was April, but we were getting worried sometime in June. We had her visit a wonderful vet, and she told us right away that it must be degenerative disc disease. It makes me cry since I knew some people who had dogs with the same problem.
I don't want this problem to get worse, and people keep telling me it will get worse. I pray for a miracle so that things get better. So please people, if you have any tips, let me know. I hate to keep her confined in a small area, but if that's really going to help then please let me know. Should I be walking her at all? The vet gave us medicine and supplements to help treat the problem but I need all the ideas I can get. Thank you everyone.
I posted this in your other thread last night ...
I know there are members here that have experience with DDD and will be able to give you more information.
Yes, I checked the links. Right now I'm feeding her Natural Balance, the Sweet Potato and Fish Formula. It's not cheap food, 85$ for a bag at Pet Valu. The Natural Balance website said that the Sweet Potato and Fish Formula is one of their grain free dog foods. She is on supplements and anti-inflammatories.
A sling - or the Bottoms Up Leash to help hold up hind end. Keep away from stairs unless you carry pup up - same with bed/sofa etc. At this point a ramp won't help too much - you will have to do the heavy lifting. When you are not at home, it is possible to allow a bigger area of space because I suspect Angel will not try to move around too much - different when you are there. And of course a lot depends on the will of the dog - in the 2 cases I lived through - slightly different - Dachshund disc disease - both of my dogs were much younger, had the horrible surgery - but were very Alpha and determined to get from A to B to supervise me. A friend of mine has a very large breed dog with DDD and she manages much as I have suggested - careful with walks - just out to do business, take in the breeze, helps with rear end - just takes it a day at a time. Some physio but that depends on the dog. Be very careful to keep weight at low end. You will most definitely know if Angel starts to experience any sort of pressure on her spinal nerves - should that happen, please get her to the vet immediately - the longer you wait the harder it will be - on Angel and you. Best of luck. I know exactly how you feel.
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BOISE, Idaho (AP) — The hilltop mansion was a gift to Idaho from potato magnate J.R. Simplot, meant as a residence befitting the governor.
Instead, it's become a money pit, costing more annually to maintain than the median price of a Boise-area home. What's more, Idaho's current governor won't even live there.
Public outcry was on display this week at a hearing over the house's future, where a majority of those who spoke recommended either selling the place or returning it to Simplot's family.
But as Idaho has discovered, it's easier to take a mansion than it is to give it back: The heirs to the self-made billionaire who died in 2008 at age 99 don't want it.
"The family's position hasn't changed," said David Cuoio, a Simplot spokesman, on Wednesday, referring to an earlier statement. "J.R.'s home was given to the state with the understanding that it would be used as the governor's house."
The place, along with its 30-by-50-foot American flag, was erected by Simplot back in 1980 not simply as a residence.
Connected to the Boise Valley floor by a narrow serpentine drive, the 7,100-square-foot home is meant to be noticed.
In real estate parlance, location is everything, but that's also the reason the "the mansion on the hill" sticks in the collective craw of many Idaho residents.
"The governor of Idaho should be a person that the citizens can relate to," said Robert Fries, a Boise resident. "The governor of Idaho should not be placed on a pedestal on a hill, looking down on everyone."
Simplot handed over the keys in 2004, but it took just two years for its lofty perch to become an issue in the 2006 race to be governor: The Democratic candidate promised he'd never live in a house that seemed to elevate a politician above the ranks of the common man.
Current chief executive C.L. "Butch" Otter won, but the Republican also eschewed the mansion, preferring his riverside ranch west of Idaho's capital. There's some personal baggage, too: Otter is Simplot's former son-in-law, having divorced his daughter back in 1993.
And then there's the cost.
Just to maintain the 37-acre grounds, the state will pay about $80,000 this year, part of a cost-sharing agreement with the Simplot family that also covers adjacent property it still owns.
The list goes on: Electricity, $30,000; replacement flags: $5,100; janitors to clean up after rare occasions the house is used for state events: $12,000.
Altogether, the maintenance tab through next June is forecast at $177,400 — $40,000 north of the median Ada County home.
Consequently, a fund to maintain the mansion has dwindled to just $900,000, from $1.5 million in 2005.
"It seems to me to be a waste of money," said Barbara Kemp, another Boise resident.
The mansion isn't without defenders.
Boise resident Michael Kostanecki thinks Idaho should keep it as a tribute to Simplot, who rose from a modest childhood in Declo to found a corporation that supplied McDonald's with its golden french fries.
"For the life of me, I can't believe we would let this symbol of Idaho go to some developer," Kostanecki pleaded Tuesday with the five-member Governor's Housing Committee.
They find themselves in a tight spot: not offending Simplot's family by looking a gift horse in the mouth, while still staunching the cash drain.
The chairman, Republican state Sen. Chuck Winder, prefers keeping it.
Democratic Sen. Les Bock, another member, favors disposal.
For another month, they'll be taking public comment on what to do, but reaching a conclusion everyone can live with still won't be easy, Bock concedes.
"At least we have some input into what we should consider doing next," he said.

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Colorado Springs, Colo., September 25, 2013 /3BL Media/ - PwC US and Junior Achievement USA® (JA) today announced the launch of JA Build Your Future, an app designed to assist with financial planning as teens look towards post-secondary education and explore their desired careers. This educational resource aims to strengthen the message about the importance of prioritizing financial literacy in our education system while providing a newly developed tool that fits the lives of today's students. The app is now available for downloading on mobile phones and tablets for both iOS and Android operating systems.
"Average student loan debt is about $26,000, and not all careers generate enough income to pay that off in a timely manner," says Jack E. Kosakowski, president and CEO of Junior Achievement USA. "JA Build Your Future is a tool that teens, their parents and their teachers can use to make more informed choices about how much money to borrow and to explore educational options."
JA Build Your Future allows teens to discover more than 100 careers; see what levels of education are required, from a high school education to a doctorate; learn about potential income; and then calculate the cost of education, including factoring the cost of attending in-state, out-of-state public universities and private universities. Teens can then adjust the level of money they and their parents may contribute, combined with student loans they may need to secure. At the end of the exercise, teens are given a Return on Investment (ROI) score between 1 and 5. A score of 1 suggests it will be difficult to pay off the debt accrued based on future income; 5 indicates that using current factors, there should be less financial hardship paying off debt with estimated future income.
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Okay firs toof...mot of the girls are younger, but this will make you look atht em more. Also I am confused...if it is guys vs girls then how can this girl already have a guy that hates her? Was she rude at a challenge? Do they start off as guys vs girls and then after the first challenge they take the first 9 and put them on a team and then the next 9 go on the other team?Welcome knowsalittle! Hope you stick around.
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For the past decade, the Bears were the team with great defense and special teams and juuuust enough offense to be competitive. This combo resulted in a couple of close calls, but no Super Bowl wins.
The recipe for NFL success changed, and we've bemoaned that fact on a yearly basis. We've bemoaned an offensive line that's given up 50 sacks per season for the past three. And Jay Cutler unfairly has taken much of the blame for the Bears' failures.
Then Phil Emery became general manager. Then Lovie Smith was shown the door. Then Marc Trestman was hired. Then Jermon Bushrod was signed, and Kyle Long and Jordan Mills were drafted. Then J'Marcus Webb was shot out of a cannon.
Now it appears the Bears are the team with a very good offense and juuuust enough defense and special teams. And it appears that the offensive line has been fixed.
That unit—Bushrod, Matt Slauson, Roberto Garza, Long, and Mills—has allowed only one sack in two games, having faced two of last season's top-five defensive lines. If they're able to keep Cutler off the ground Sunday night at Pittsburgh, it'll mark the first time in his career in Chicago in which he's been sacked a total of once in three consecutive games.
Read that again. IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
Cutler's not perfect. He still makes one god-awful throw per game. But he also makes eight awesome ones. This is the same Cutler who's always been here.
This year's difference is he's not picking Soldier Field outta his face every five pass attempts. When he's given the protection Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning routinely enjoy … well, he's posted a 95.4 quarterback rating over two games. He's engineered two game-winning, fourth-quarter drives. He's SMILING, dammit.
It's been three years since we watched the N.Y. Giants pound Cutler into the turf nine times in one half. (I'm still not convinced he didn't actually die that night.) Finally, it feels like that won't happen again anytime soon.
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Food safety is a matter of power
In Venice, Calif., the Rawesome raw-food club was raided Aug. 3 by armed federal and county agents who arrested a volunteer and seized computers, files, cash and $70,000 worth of perishable produce.
Club founder and manager James Stewart, 64, was charged with 13 counts, 12 of them related to the processing and sale of unpasteurized milk to club members. The other count involved unwashed, room-temperature eggs, a storage method Rawesome members prefer. The agents dumped gallons of raw milk and filled a large flatbed with seized food, including coconuts, watermelons and frozen buffalo meat.
On that same morning, leaders at the multinational conglomerate Cargill were calculating how best to deal with a deadly outbreak of drug-resistant salmonella that originated in a Cargill-owned turkey factory. So far, one person has died from eating the tainted turkey.
Later that day, as Stewart languished in jail, Cargill issued a voluntary recall -- four months after people began getting sick -- of 36 million pounds of ground turkey traceable to an Arkansas plant. Cargill has a history of deadly outbreaks, is a major supplier to the nation's public-school meal programs, and sells turkey under dozens of brand names, none of which include the word "Cargill."
A bevy of high-profile lawyers went to bat for the Rawesome manager and got his bail reduced from the $121,000 that prosecutor's had recommended to $30,000, and to strike a rarely used clause that would have prevented Stewart from employing a bail bondsman. Lela Buttery, a Rawesome club member, said the mood in the courtroom was almost comical when Stewart's initial $121,000 bail was announced.
"We'd been watching child molesters and wife-beaters get half that amount. James is accused of things like processing milk without pasteurization and gets such a high bail amount ... the felons in court burst out laughing."
The Rawesome club began 12 years ago as a small group who occasionally pooled their money and bought unpasteurized milk from local dairies. As more people joined, the club's distribution facilities grew from a cooler in a parking lot to a rented storage space to the current warehouse. The inventory diversified, but the presentation remained minimal.
Rawesome members sign a form attesting that as a member of this private members-only club, "I demand access to food that is produced without exposure to chemical contaminants such as industrialized pesticides, fertilizers, cleansers or their gases; complete with its natural unadulterated enzymes intact; may contain microbes, including but not limited to salmonella, E. coli, campylobacter, listeria, gangrene and parasites; the cows are grass-fed and the goats are pastured on a regular basis; fowl are regularly given the opportunity to range outdoors and not fed soy products; and eggs are unwashed and may have bacteria and poultry feces on them."
The Aug. 3 raid was not Rawesome's first. A 2010 raid resulted in seizures of cash, computers and other equipment that has yet to be returned, Buttery says. California is one of the few states that allow the sale of raw milk, but only from dairies permitted by the state. Until Aug. 3, Rawesome had been obtaining raw milk from a variety of sources. Buttery says many club members object to the Holstein breed used by the one certified raw-milk label in California -- Organic Pastures. They prefer milk from heirloom cattle varieties that produce different proteins. It's safe to say that uncertified raw milk was being spilt at Rawesome, which would indeed be illegal. But Rawesome members believe there's nothing wrong with a private club of consenting adults obtaining unpasteurized raw milk together.
Records in the club's office sourced each batch of raw milk, and this information, before it was seized, was available to members. If a contamination issue flared up, members contend, it could have been much more quickly traced than, say, that sickening Cargill turkey. Buttery says that in 12 years there hasn't been a reported problem at Rawesome.
Despite a lack of victims, Rawesome stands accused. And while Cargill has no shortage of victims, nobody at that company has been charged with a crime over the turkey recall. While Cargill self-polices, the Rawesome club has been under more intense scrutiny than members even realized.
"Since the raid, it's come out that we've been under investigation since June 30 of last year," Buttery says. "They've been monitoring us from unmarked vehicles; they have agents who have become members."
Somehow, the government was able to find enough money for a multi-year, multi-agency undercover investigation to root out information that nobody was trying to hide. Details on the provenance of Rawesome's raw milk was available to all members -- including the government spies. You tell me if this makes sense.
Ari LeVaux is a contributor to Writers of the Range, a service of High Country News (hcn.org). He writes about food from Placitas, New Mexico.
Note: the opinions expressed in this column are those of the writer and do not necessarily reflect those of High Country News, its board or staff. If you'd like to share an opinion piece of your own, please write Betsy Marston at [email protected].


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Speaking about battens (a bit off topic, but not fully...), can anyone remember what the name of the kite or kitebrand that made kites with battens only was ?
I have flown that kite myself - I think it was German, but not sure ?
Many years ago, maybe 2001-2004 ?
A four line C kite with fibre battens instead of struts, all over.
Very fast to inflate and pack down, I remember
But battens are heavy and will work through the canopy, so thats why most or all brands have stopped using them, also at the tips only
Also - in the case of a self rescue it would be nice to have air in the struts when the LE is deflated
Although, I have never used this myself...
Sorry for not being precise on-topic-headline, but someone asked about it in this thread - can anyone remember that kite ?


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Notes on major overhaul
Hm, I didn't know there was a behind-the-scene page we could discuss this. I had already mentioned some points on the forums I wasn't sure about when I did the major overhaul and update. I will also list them here so other people that don't use the forum can see it (plus my post it already amongst dozens of older ones in the ATI Grill)
- Xorg example file; is it needed? And if it is, most entries are uncommented and I think we should at least provide some information on the options if we decide to keep it.
- Installing from AMD. Should we even instruct this? It's absolutely unrecommended and I for one don't know if the instructions are correct.
Thanks for working on this article everyone!
Unia 00:29, 14 October 2012 (Amsterdam)
I love you guys for putting this wiki entry together and maintaining the repositories with the Catalyst driver and the patched mplayer with support for hardware acceleration. It would have taken me many, many hours to make it work as flawlessly as it does.
Foutrelis 06:11, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
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Note to editors: DO NOT REMOVE that since it works and helps users getting it working!
Why keep it around if the information is obsolete now?
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the nomodeset option si mandatory using catalyst, cause this driver doesn't support kms. The note is useless. 4javier 07:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
I think the problems with Radeon HD 6870 are outdated, I use that graphics card and I didn't have any problems at all, even OpenCL works fine. -- Lykos42 14:04, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
- Added Template:Accuracy, please next time don't be afraid of adding status templates by yourself :) -- Kynikos 07:59, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
I cannot speak for speak for the HD 6870 but I can confirm that the problem still exists for the E-350 (APU with a HD 6310), and that the posted solution works if the device name is changed (and perhaps without changing it, I didn't test). I have therfore removed the disputed banner and generalized the answer. (As is suspect the fix works for virtually any "unsupported" device). If someone could confirm the naming scheme for the Xorg identifier I would appreciate it. --Eric Vuhl (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


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Arts & Mysteries: The Striking Knife
Discover a nearly extinct tool that can help you work faster and more accurately.
By Adam Cherubini
Pages: 32-34
From the April 2005 issue #147
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As preposterous as the notion seems, the historical record suggests cabinetmakers working in dim shops with hand tools were able to produce fine furniture with great speed. Despite the superiority of our modern tools and shops, few can match their productivity. So modern woodworkers are left with this question: How were they able to work efficiently with hand tools?
This article is the first in a series I will write for Popular Woodworking on the subject of working wood quickly and efficiently with hand tools. I shall humbly attempt to do what my 18th century counterpart swore not to do: Reveal the once secret "arts and mysteries" of working quickly and efficiently with hand tools.
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Zoë Zimmerman takes the albumen photographic printing process and brings it into the 21st century, producing exquisitely crafted photographs whose look and subjects harken back to the Victorian era. She began her career making landscape photographs with a large-format camera. Motherhood and shifting interests led her into the studio, where she composes and shoots still lifes and scenes with figures, frequently women and her own children. Of her choice to forgo digital technology in favor of a historical, hand-based method, Zimmerman writes: "After years spent mastering the traditional techniques of albumen printing, I have continued in my exploration of the process, taking up where the practitioners of the 1800s left off. My prints are produced by means of my own recipe and method. . . . I have not invented a new process so much as expanded on the capabilities of an old one."
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J Kallis needs 3 more ODI wickets to reach the following amazing record : scoring more than 10 000 runs in both Tests and ODI's while also having taken at least 250 wickets in both formats of the game. Has any other player ever reached this or anyone else close to reaching this amazing feat ?
The nearest in Tests for any player with 10'000 runs is Steve Waugh with 92 wickets.
The nearest in Tests for any player with 250 wickets is Kapil Dev with 5248 runs and then Botham with 5200.
Sanath Jayasuriya has 13343 runs in ODIs and 319 wickets.
The nearest after that in ODIs with 10'000 runs is Tendulkar with 154 wickets then Ganguly with 100.
Afridi has the most runs out of all players with 250+ wickets after Kallis and Jayasuriya in ODIs with 5715
My NZ Team for this Champions Trophy on the SA tracks with the Batting Order is:
Would like to see McCullum drop the order. His quick 30's and 40's help NZ more at the bottom of the order rather than at the top. Guptill should open with Ryder. Send Oram down the order... cant see him hitting the ball anymore
Long Live Test Cricket
I think if we drop anyone down the order it should be Ryder. McCullum would be best at 7 or opening and we need a 6 more than we need a 7.
Elliott at 3 is interesting, has he ever played there in List A cricket?
who's going to win Tomorrow, South Africa or Srilanka
my pick would be South Africa with ease
I cant understand why Ryder should be dropped down the order. He is the only batsman who can make use of the powerplays. McCullum for me may hits 2-3 boundaries and finally plays an ugly shot too early to get out. So, I think McCullum should come down the order and plays where he was doing well previously.
Kallis might put some people to sleep but when you wake up, you'll realize that he has this incredible all-rounder's record that's not gonna be beaten anytime soon!
Should be a great match today with four very good spinners included in the teams. I think the team that plays the spinners the best and keeps the run-rate up during the middle overs has the best chance.
This tournament is so short and almost every game becomes a must win. With the exception of WI, every team has a very realistic change of taking the trophy. Still, home conditions and current form put SA in the lead.
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Runaway Golf Cart Hits 7 at Cowboys Stadium
Dave Goldman had this story on the news this morning - the video is amazing.
The Associated Press gave us this information:
Seven people suffered minor injuries when a runaway electric cart raced unmanned from an end zone to midfield and plowed into several people after a high school football playoff game in Texas.
The incident happened after Spring Dekaney beat Cibolo Steele, 34-14, to win the Texas 5A Division II football title at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington on Saturday night.
Arlington Fire Lt. Darrel Whitfield said Sunday that of the seven treated for minor injuries at the stadium, one man with leg abrasions was taken to nearby Arlington Memorial Hospital for a precautionary examination.
The winning head coach was among those bowled over by the cart.
You can see a stadium worker on the video footage jumping aboard the runaway cart and stopping it while some of those hit by the cart lay on the ground and others rushed to their aid.


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A little more red, white and blue than usual could be found around Marion County on Wednesday, as residents honored the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks.
A little more red, white and blue than usual could be found around Marion County on Wednesday, as the area's residents chose to honor the victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in a way they believed most fitting.
Students at Forest High School — many too young to remember the attacks — provided a somber and fitting tribute to those lost, while Summerfield worshippers prayed for America and Belleview walked for freedom after honoring first responders.
Wednesday marked the 12th anniversary of the terrorist attack that left smoldering devastation in three states and spawned American overseas involvement in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
The anniversary comes at a time when America is considering a targeted military strike in Syria after President Barack Obama pointed to use of chemical weapons as a game changer in the ongoing civil war there.
"For many of us here today, 9/11 will be forever remembered for the fears we had to face that day and the tears we cried for those that we lost," said algebra teacher David Kwiakowshki outside Forest High on Wednesday morning.
He reminded his audience of parents, teachers and students what happened on Sept, 11, 2001, and its residual aftermath: the economic, military and legislative impacts and the more personal impact on children who are now growing up without a mother or father.
Kwiakowshki's remarks were followed by the raising of the flag to half-staff by the Flag Detail and a simulated 21-gun salute by the rifle team. Principal Brent Carson and the Wreath Guard placed a red, white and blue circle of artificial flowers under the flag pole, and a prerecorded version of taps was played, followed by Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA." The ceremony lasted 15 minutes and included about 75 of the group's 400 cadets.
"I think if we forget, then the terrorist wins," said Junior ROTC instructor Charles Elder, who is a retired master sergeant with the U.S. Air Force.
"When you look at us, you'll remember," said 10th-grader Emma Robles, 15, before the ceremony. Emma is a second-year cadet and hopes to join the Air Force one day.
"Over 2,000 people died that day and it needs to be remembered in history," said senior Gregory Northrup, 17.
Northrup said no other events were planned during the school day to remember Sept. 11, but the school would take on a "solemn state."
This is the 12th year the school has honored the loss of life, and each year the ceremony has grown a little longer, according to school district spokesman Kevin Christian.
"Twelve years, it goes by pretty quick, but a lot of people forget," said Michael Ankiewicz, 51, a retired Marine veteran. On Wednesday he bustled around the parking lot as a proud parent, photographing daughter Erika, 15, a second-year cadet who took part in the ceremony. He also took some time to reflect on a recent overseas threat.
Tuesday evening, President Obama told the American people in a televised address about his threat for a targeted military strike in Syria, calling evidence of chemical weapons use in the country on Aug. 21 a tipping point in the country's ongoing civil war.
But Obama did say he would postpone asking for congressional approval until recently announced diplomatic talks concluded.
Obama called the U.S. "an anchor of global security" in his address, and said this had made the world a better place. He hopes a strike in Syria would show Assad and the world that chemical weapons use — a crime against humanity — would not be tolerated.
Although Obama chose to deliver his speech on the eve of Sept. 11, he failed to mention the day's significance. He did reference its military aftermath — assuring Americans his involvement in Syria would not call for ground troops or become prolonged like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Polls show the country is divided on whether the government should take action in Syria.
"9/11 wouldn't affect my decision whether we should be involved in Syria or not," said Ankiewicz, while watching his daughter prepare for the morning ceremony. He called the situation "totally different," citing the chemical weapons use.
Junior ROTC instructor Bronislaw Baranowski, a retired lieutenant colonel with the Air Force, had a different take.
"I think that (Syria) has brought back a lot of the memories of 9/11," he said after the ceremony. "Hopefully we can resolve that without military involvement."
Baranowski highlighted the importance of remembering 9/11, especially when the younger generation might not recall the events as vividly as those who lived it.
Emma Robels said she didn't recall the specific events of Sept. 11 until Junior ROTC refreshed her memory.
"They need to understand what it is that the U.S. stands for," Baranowski said. "We've been, for 12 years, at war. It's a fight against those who want to end our way of life."
During a prayer event inside the Village View Community Church in Summerfield, Jim Johnson, 71 and his wife, Joyce, 68, shared their thoughts.
"The nation needs to turn back to God," said Villages resident Jim Johnson. After the Benghazi attack that left a U.S. ambassador dead, Johnson said he finds it difficult to completely trust President Obama, recalling the military's motto that nobody gets left behind. "They were left behind," said Johnson, a Navy veteran.
Joyce Johnson looked back on President George W. Bush's leadership in the aftermath of Sept. 11. "I thank God every day he was in control," she said.
The couple admitted to not knowing every detail of the situation in Syria, but said solid proof of chemical weapon use would help them to decide whether the military should become involved in Syria.
Later Wednesday evening, more than 200 gathered at Belleview City Hall Park to honor the first responders and then participate in a walk for freedom down residential streets.
Taking part in the ceremony were Belleview Police Chief Lee Strickland, Marion County Fire Chief Stuart McElhaney, Ocala Police Chief Greg Graham and Marion County Sheriff Chris Blair, all of whom shared their thoughts after Mayor Christine Dobkowski.
"The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, caused more law enforcement line of duty deaths than any other single incident in American history." Strickland said. "We pay tribute to the law enforcement officers representing 10 different agencies who died as a direct result of the attacks."
Blair pointed out that, while the tragic day is the worst America has seen, it brought out the best in its citizens.
Graham and McElhaney reminded the audience that the impact is personal for many in Marion County; both have sons currently serving in the military. Kyle McElhaney, 25, is a graduate of Forest High and currently serving in the Air Force as a 2nd lieutenant stationed in New Mexico. Air Force Senior Airman Tyler Graham, 22, is currently stationed in Afghanistan.
Chief Graham reflected on all the innocent lives lost on Sept. 11 and asked the audience to pray; including a prayer for his son, who is expected to return home in November.
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An anniversary worth celebrating
According to Wikipedia, the last naturally occurring incident of smallpox (Variola minor) happened on this date in 1977:
By the end of 1975, smallpox persisted only in the Horn of Africa. Conditions were very difficult in Ethiopia and Somalia, where there were few roads. Civil war, famine, and refugees made the task even more difficult. An intensive surveillance and containment and vaccination program was undertaken in early and mid-1977. The last naturally occurring case of indigenous smallpox (Variola minor) was diagnosed in Ali Maow Maalin, a hospital cook in Merca, Somalia, on 26 October 1977.
In the 20th century, smallpox is estimated to have killed hundreds of millions of people. Hundreds of millions. Imagine the United States — the entire country, from the Pacific to the Atlantic — empty, devoid of people, dead. Smallpox wiped out that many people with room to spare.
And yet, today, it's gone.
Why do you think that is? Homeopathy? Detoxification? Thinking good thoughts?
Nope. Vaccinations. A global campaign was undertaken in 1950, and within 30 years smallpox was struck from the face of the Earth.
Hey Jenny McCarthy, Meryl Dorey, and all you antivaxxers and your ilk: got a response to this? Still want to claim vaccines don't work? Still want to stop people from getting them? Do you want to see this happen to children all over the planet again (WARNING – SERIOUSLY! –VERY DISTURBING IMAGE). Because if you are successful in your campaign to stop vaccinations, that's what we'll be facing again.
Vaccines are perhaps the single greatest triumph of modern medicine. Yet a vocal minority willing to trash facts, spin the truth, and generally spout misinformation is putting not only themselves but you, me, and everyone at risk.
Happy anniversary, smallpox, gone these past 32 years. And may I add, good damn riddance. May reason, rationality, and science-based medicine do the same for every other threat to the health and well being of the human race as well.
Tip o' the syringe to Reddit.
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"Vaccines are perhaps the single greatest triumph of modern medicine."
Once, having lunch with a group of doctors of several specialities, I asked what was the single greatest achievement of medicine, by people saved. I was expecting vaccinations, but was wondering if it might have been antibiotics instead.
Interestingly, the conclusion reached was neither when the microbiologist at the table pointed out that almost certainly the greatest honour goes to Nightingale, for convincing everyone to wash their hands before helping to give birth, slashing death in childbirth from one in 10 to a few in thousands.
Still, all three are great contestants, with thousands of millions of lives saved by each of them. Lets see antivaxxers of all stripes try to even reach those numbers, one favourable example at a time
Grey Wolf
Now if only we can get a vaccine for AIDS, we'll be able to save a lot more lives. Actually, I'd like to take this time to plug World Community Grid, http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org
It works like SETI@home, where work units are sent to your computer, for your computer to calculate with its idle time. They mainly work on health-related science, such as fighting AIDS, cancer, and influenza.
They're not working on vaccines, per se, but a lot of it is basic research. Basic research can go a long way to help the human race. Lets wipe out some more diseases from the face of the Earth.
Well put, sir!
Now if we can just get Oprah frakkin' Winfrey to stop supporting this nonsense…
And that is why science is so cool–it works in a big way.
In other news, I'm totally going to believe Phil next time he warns about seriously disturbing images. Yikes.
Hear hear!!
Dr. Plait, on a side note, one of my friends pointed out that you don't actually present any hard evidence in this article. Perhaps you should also link to one of your other articles that does?
Because if you are successful in your campaign to stop vaccinations, that's what we'll be facing again.
Except, not by smallpox (unless someone breaks into a lab that has it). More likely, we'll see it with measles (there are already upticks in areas) and possibly even polio, which was on its way to extinction, until antivax fears mucked things up in certain regions.
Why do you think that is?
Their answer is pretty easy: improved sanitation and hygiene, because they can't give credit to vaccines and prefer to ignore the data. So, to anyone that believes that improved sanitation and hygiene are the reason that smallpox disappeared, please take a look at some data. antiantivax.flurf.net (can click on my name to get there) is a good starting point to more info and resources.
Wow BA, you should stop mincing words and tell us how you really feel.
Well said!
Huzzah! Hooray for science!
As someone here pointed out before, vaccines offer the only technique we have today that allows us to completely eradicate an infectious disease, although it is only possible with viruses that solely reside in humans. Bacteria are opportunists, there are few if any that exist solely in humans, and other parasites are more flexible still.
@Grey Wolf
Uhm I wasn't aware of Nightingale, and looking around her Wikipedia page tones down her merits about hygiene. Can you give a reference about the delivery related deaths?
Apparently she was also against drugging patients during amputations… and there's a funny line about speaking to god…
No Phil, it's all living conditions and hand washing (actually heard that argument this weekend…sigh). These people with their misguided sense of self-entitlement and predisposition to panic are going to kill us all.
Was it really Nightingale? Shouldn't it be Semmelweis?
When it comes to public health breakthroughs and total lives saved, I suspect that something involving sanitation will turn out to be number one, but sanitation doesn't necessarily quality as a purely "medical" breakthrough.
It should also be noted for the next idiot who wants to regurgitate a list of vaccine adverse reactions, that the smallpox vaccine was one of the more dangerous ones. It all boils down to risk-benefit ratios.
Wow, I had never seen an image of someone with smallpox before. That is very disturbing. And the fact that I've never seen smallpox is something I'm thankful to modern medicine an vaccines for. I guess that's also why it's so easy for people to believe the anti-vaccine rhetoric, because the efficacy of vaccines have made it possible for us to just forget that these horrible diseases exist. People need to be reminded of how lucky we are to have vaccines.
When that Newsweek article on Oprah came out I posted on my blog about being happy that she's being criticized for spreading anti-vaccine nonsense. Now today I have someone commenting there about how Jenny McCarthy has a point about vaccines. It's unfortunate because on the surface what McCarthy is saying appears to make sense just because it seems like the vaccines aren't necessary, so people tend to just go along with what she's saying.
There's so much misinformation with regards to vaccines, it's really sad. My sister's having a hard time sorting out whether she should get the H1N1 vaccine because of the fears being spread, and she's in the high-risk group (pregnant, third trimester).
I'm going off on a rant here…I'll stop. Happy anniversary to no more smallpox!
I'm bothered by the fact that the Russians manufacturered Smallpox by the ton durning the Cold War & planned to mount it in refrigerated warhead SS-18s for use during a nuclear exchange – and no one to this day has been able to confirm where all that Smallpox went.
Although I hope and pray it'll never happen, I believe it is only a matter of time before Smallpox is re-introduced into the general population – either as an accident or on purpose.
Interesting Op/Ed in the NY Times today. An article in support of using our nation's polling places (186,000 of them) as vaccination centers. They process, in one day, the votes of the nation. That's a big job, and they do it well. Swine flu doesn't seem to be that deadly but we know it's just a matter of time before something much worse comes around. If we ever need to do a mass distribution of vaccine, and keep track of everybody that has been given it, this might be the best way to do that.
Thanks for the info re: wild reservoirs for smallpox. I was under the impression that the only real spots that you could still find smallpox were in labs. But, yeah, plenty of contenders otherwise.
And just a clarification re: sanitation and hygiene. Nightingale is credited with revolutionizing the idea of actually washing up before patient interaction. And not to dismiss hygiene and sanitation completely, they did have an impact, just not as big as what antivaxers would have one believe.
I thought it was prayer and sacrificial offerings that made smallpox disappear. Who knew?
Right, it was indeed Semmelweis.
What an odd coincidence. I started Vaccine Week on the Smithsonian blog Surprising Science today (http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/10/26/vaccine-week-day-1-a-brief-history-and-how-vaccines-work/) and had no idea I ran into an anniversary. Thanks!
I thought it was the chanting of a Tibetan guru sitting on a pointed stick that stopped smallpox. 😉
Way to go Phil, glad you pulled out the big gun by pointing out the success of the small pox vaccination program and cast the light of truth on the anti-vax liars. I truly believe they are a scourge on society and need to be smacked down at every opportunity.
As Shakespeare said, A pox on all of their houses!
I have no problem with people who make personal informed choices not be vaccincated but people who spread misinformation (or support those who do, I am looking at you oprah!) are among the worst of the worst. Keep up the good work Phil.
Its the 180th anniversary of the Orionid meteor shower too incidentally.
That's one worth clebrating too yeah? 😉
"The discovery of the Orionid meteor shower should be credited to E. C. Herrick (Connecticut, USA). In 1839, he made the ambiguous statement that activity seemed to be present."
From : http://meteorshowersonline.com/orionids.html
Going back on topic here : Let's just not have any "plague parties" to celebrate okay? 😉
Also I don't know that smallpox is totally gone yet – because I understand the CDC and other labs (Russia?) have it frozen and ready in case of biological warfare / Or, sinister twist, the possible option to use it as a bioweapon.
Have seen & heard about but not yet personally read Richard Preston's* The Demon in the Freezer book on this issue – I think.
That noted, yeah, I'm with you BA. Yay science, boo anti-vaxx nutters!
The same author, Richard Preston also wrote The Hot Zone a brilliant book about the very disturbing diseases Marburg and Ebola. That book literally made me miss many a bus I was supposed to catch while reading it a bookstore.
Yes smallpox is gone for now but it could make a come back there are smallpox viruss stored in labs now what would happen if the labs were damanged in a say earthquake , tornato ,hurrican , or 1000s of other disaters that could happen and the virus ecaped back into the wild and even mutated or if some terorist group were to get there hands on the virus grow it and use it in a biowepons attack we stoped useing the smallpox vaccine in most nations in the 70s this means 100,000,000 of people have no imuenity to the virus so these people will get smallpox if the disaters I mentiond happen.
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I thought it was prayer and sacrificial offerings that made smallpox disappear. Who knew?
Semmelweiss apparently – & all the good modern doctors afterwards! 😉
(Well you did ask.)
Sadly, I'm sure some religious types around now would probably seriously credit "prayer" as the solution.
Heaven help us (ironically) if we get an modern outbreak in their areas today …
From a CBS news story in 2005
"Most Americans do not accept the theory of evolution. Instead, 51 percent of Americans say God created humans in their present form, and another three in 10 say that while humans evolved, God guided the process. Just 15 percent say humans evolved, and that God was not involved. "
Not surprising there's so much hysteria over vaccinations.
RE: Nightingale and Semmelweis
I found an article that suggests that Nightingale was not aware of Semmelweis' findings regarding hand hygiene. So, while Semmelweis was largely responsible for changing the hygiene habits of physicians and medical students, Nightingale likely independently confirmed the idea and did for nursing what Semmelweis did for physicians.
"…got a response to this?"
LOL, good one Phil. Being pro-vaccination doesn't get you on Oprah.
Even if smallpox makes a comeback by accident or by design, it doesn't become infectious until after the disease presents itself in the carrier. That's one of the reasons why we were so successful in wiping it out in the first place, and why fresh outbreaks will be contained fairly quickly with targeted inoculations.
So there is little need for mass smallpox vaccinations, even if there was to be another outbreak. In fact, since the smallpox vaccine is known to kill about one in a million people, it would be foolish to use it in that way.
While I will agree that vaccinations are a good thing, I do begin to wonder if "everything" in the needle is absolutely necessary. So where I do see your point in the article, I also understand where Oprah and others fears come from.
Citing public disbelief in evolution isn't a convincing reason for why today's public disbelieves in vaccines. After all, vaccines existed before the Origin was published, and were quite popular 100 and 50 years ago, when public acceptance of evolution was probably (sorry, couldn't find actual statistics) lower than it is now. Honestly, bringing up evolution in this discussion is probably just going to hurt the cause, because people will start thinking "well, I don't believe in evolution, and people keep telling me that evolution and vaccines are related, so maybe I had better stop believing in vaccines."
My feeling is that reduced confidence in vaccines has three main causes: 1) People rarely experience serious contagious disease, so they don't have a personal feel for what vaccines are protecting from. 2) Politics. I've noticed that the loudest anti vaccine types tend to have political affiliation different from the party in power. This has been noticeable over the course of the past year. During the bush era anti vaccine people were typically liberal, but now conservatives are taking up the banner and liberals are quieting a bit. Vaccines are a public health issue and thus controlled somewhat by the party in power. The party not in power generally hates everything the party in power does on general principals. And 3) Over the past 50 years a number of scientifically promoted things have turned out to have harmful side effects (pesticides, fertilizers, CFCs, asbestos, leaded gas) Because of this, some people seem to believe that every scientifically promoted product must have harmful side effects.
While I will agree that vaccinations are a good thing, I do begin to wonder if "everything" in the needle is absolutely necessary. So where I do see your point in the article, I also understand where Oprah and others fears come from.
Is there anything in particular about which you have concerns? Maybe someone here can answer them. You may also want to take a look at antiantivax.flurf.net, the CDC site on vaccines or the FDA site to see if your question might be answered there, first.
This totally needs to be an unofficial holiday. Activities and parties and things to raise consciousness and all, across the world. Like Darwin Day, or Blasphemy Day. I sometimes wonder if antivaxers have ever seen the pictures of smallpox victims- or how it is they think, if vaccines aren't effective (which many claim), smallpox disappeared in the first place.
This totally needs to be an unofficial holiday. Activities and parties and things to raise consciousness and all, across the world. Like Darwin Day, or Blasphemy Day. I sometimes wonder if antivaxers have ever seen the pictures of smallpox victims- or how it is they think, if vaccines aren't effective (which many claim), smallpox disappeared in the first place.
I just got an idea for a scary Halloween costume.
Without a doubt one of the worst things I have ever seen. That picture is simply heart-breaking and I will never understand people who feel they don't need to protect their children from this or worse. It's just inconceivable to me and while I know that they believe they are right, they're just sick and selfish.
I think I once read in either Water Environment Technology or the American Water Works Association Journal that the greatest contributor to public health was the chlorination of drinking water. I have also recently had a conversation with a contractor who builds water treatment plants that in some areas of the US, the local population often holds community meetings to protest the chlorination of their drinking water. Fluoridation is often highly protested too. It has to be an education problem
Do scared straight tactics generally work? I don't actually know–you get similar methods used with pictures of aborted fetuses, but I don't know how effective such methods are. I bet there is research on it somewhere. Shudder…I agree it would make a scary halloween costume though. Happy deathaversiary smallpox!
Vaccines are perhaps the single greatest triumph of modern medicine.
Not only that.
100% of vaccines are 100% safe and 100% effective!
Take that antivaxxers! Flipping deniers.
I really don't think that McCarthy, et al care about other people's children. If they did, they might actually be open to reason. What they care about are their self-serving crusades that serve to keep themselves in the media eye spouting pseudo-scientific nonsense that proves they don't have any way of comprehending reality.
Show them that picture of the child and they'll find a way to blame science, the parents, the gods, a broken crystal, or whatever — anything but the lack of vaccination for the child who fell prey to that disease. You wouldn't actually expect them to take responsibility for what they say or do to stop vaccinations because then they'd have to admit they were wrong — and then the lawsuits would fly. I kind of wish somebody would sue McCarthy anyway for her non-expert medical opinions. She's an actor. And not a particularly good one. But that doesn't make her an expert on medicine.
They process, in one day, the votes of the nation. That's a big job, and they do it well.
insert rimshot?
Damn, some people are so gullible. It's sad really.
"Vaccines are perhaps the single greatest triumph of modern medicine. "
indeed.. but for same is just a mean to kill the next generation….
please ignore this comment… just read a bit more about this "Dr"…..
Smallpox vaccine does not equal other vaccines. There's a huge spectrum of cost, safety and efficiency.
Though maybe this observation is out of place. Being a political and not a scientific or medical blog, anything but absolutes tend to be disregarded.
"100% of vaccines are 100% safe and 100% effective!"
Lol I missed that, some irony at last….
this is a double edged sword though. there are still samples in labs that could be stolen and used to infect thousands- even millions before we could manufacture enough vaccine to inoculate the general public.
Nice work demolishing that straw man. Put up one heck of a fight, didn't it?
Yeah. This is who eople turn to for medical advice:
NSFW (seriously) : http://imgur.com/Y2Q5a.gif
I do begin to wonder if "everything" in the needle is absolutely necessary
Why do you wonder that? Do you have any evidence that any of the ingredients are harmful? Do you have any evidence that any of the ingredients are not necessary?
Nightingale is best know for her work in British Field Hospitals in the Crimea. Childbirth didn't constitute a major part of her practice there.
I think I mentioned before that I had argued with a friend who had bought into antivax conspiracies to such an extent that he would not even get the seasonal flu vaccine. The exchange actually got pretty heated at times.
Well, in the kind of bitter irony that would make poor fiction but which sometimes happens in real life, he is down with the flu right now. Worse, his 10 year old son has it too.
I would really, really rather not have been proven right this time.
That photo; I've seen faces like that. I'm old enough.
I've seen polio, too, with its residual disabilities for the lucky survivors. And painful shingles, from childhood chickenpox (harmless?). And people dying of TB. Whooping cough was a bit before my time, but Dad's brother died of it.
I've had the measles, (two weeks in a darkened room, no reading, no TV, to prevent eye damage) and worried about German measles when I was pregnant.
In my books, anti-vaxxers are criminally irresponsible. If they're just ignorant, that is; if they should know better, they're out-and-out criminal.
Amazing event in humanity's history. Will be forwarding to friends and aquaintences who trust tabloid journalists over medical doctors.
Vaccines are NOT 100% effective
The efficacy of the flu vaccine is being called into question. It may not have any effect at all.
Health experts are even opposed to proper placebo-controlled trials. Skepticism runs both ways. We are skeptical of antivaxxers and homeopathy. We owe the same skepticism to mainstream healthcare.
Not just Smallpox. Living memory is dead or dying out of widespread diseases like Polio, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Plague, Diptheria, Leprosy, Tuberculosis, and so forth. These diseases survive in pockets but are nothing like the terrors they inflicted upon past generations.
I've always thought that a terrible destiny would be to survive Polio, only to have to spend a lifetime in an iron lung.
I'm aware that not all of these diseases have vaccines and that iron lungs are an obsolete technology. My point is that even 100 years ago the average citizen would personally know someone dead or dying from these conditions. Vaccines and antibiotics were joyfully received with the certain knowledge of what the alternative was.
Antivaxxers are like children who don't know or don't care that their parents have to work to keep a safe and happy home. They know nothing of the darkness awaiting if that support is withdrawn.
A depressing indication of antivax's zealotry:
Reporter writes a story on the antivax movement, and generally finds its underpinnings scientifically nonexistent, and then:
"What's interesting is what happened next. A reporter for 25 years, she has gotten more mail — and endured more nasty personal attacks — than for any other story she has written (including her first-person exploration of L.A.'s worship of female breasts.)"
Science is indeed a candle in the dark.
Brian Too, #57
"My point is that even 100 years ago the average citizen would personally know someone dead or dying from these conditions."
Not even 100. In my experience, around 60.
Life was scary, back then. Especially for parents. In my mother's generation, every family had one or more kids dead because of those common "childhood diseases". There was no way to prevent the contagion, no medication to stop it until it had run its course.
I have seen, in the early 1960s, chicken pox run through an entire children's ward in the hospital; two weeks quarantine after the last case showed up, all surgery suspended, nothing to do but comfort wailing children. One of them was mine.
I have felt the dread when my brother came down with a stiff neck and a fever. Was it polio? Would he survive? Would we catch it? (It was, he did, we didn't. We were so fortunate!)
People today don't remember. Their memories go back 30, maybe 40 years, after the vaccines had worked their wonders. They grew up taking health for granted. And they didn't get medical history in school. It's a pity.
Jeez Phil. Its like a bloody uphill battle for you everyday mate. You're like a lone ranger for rationality, logic and common sense in a battleground full of looneytunes. You have my full support fella.
My 10 month year old daughter has had all her vaccines so far, and is a picture of perfect health. Additionally, you can count on it that my wife and I (both healthcare professionals) will have the swine flu vaccine when it is readily available.
Re: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1
No one is saying vaccines are 100% effective 100% of the time in 100% of the population. But I'd truly hate to see a world without them. Not pretty.
From a 'Facts About Swine Flu' FAQ link in the article, the following quote starts my anti-vaxxer receptive antennas wiggling. Oh yes, they are definitely in a furious state of motion.
"However, injected flu vaccines may contain thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative, which many doctors believe is safe but others believe may be responsible for effects on the brain and nervous system."
I invite you to read the following rebuttal to the The Atlantic article you referenced and linked to.
B Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Vaccines are NOT 100% effective
Nobody claims they are. Nobody claims they're 100% safe either.
StevoR @ 24 recommended Richard Preston's book.
The same author wrote First Light, about the 200-in Hale Telescope at Mt Palomar
Robert Hale (no relation)
Health experts are even opposed to proper placebo-controlled trials.
Others already beat me to the punch about the Atlantic article and Orac's dissection of it, but I wanted to add to this. A placebo-controlled trial of vaccines would be unethical. Part of human research protections is that participants should not knowingly be subjected to harm, and that efforts should be made to minimize risk. A placebo-controlled vaccine trial would necessarily be exposing the placebo group to known risks. Please do a search online for the Declaration of Helsinki and give it a read, then come back and tell us if you still think a placebo-controlled trial is okay.
Orac and revere go into a bit more detail about this, but just wanted to make note of it here.
One should also note that smallpox is a remarkably lethal disease, killing about 30% of Europeans presenting symptoms and nearly 98% of Native Americans(Hey, that's the miracle of being a descendant of a smallpox survivor). . It was nearly as bad as ebola, but a heck of a lot more contagious.Most highly contagious diseases are not particularly lethal, because that kills off their reservoir(as in the critter in which they reproduce).
I'd just like to note that the wonder drug, penicillin, had a significant allergic side effect, from swelling at the injection site to shock and death but the diseases it successfully treated were far more lethal(pneumonia, staph,etc). I expect if Jenny or her ilk were admitted to a hospital for a bacterial disease, they would demand injection with one of those anti-biotics, despite their known potential side effects(and those side effects are a hundred times more common than those from vaccinations. Additionally, treatment with anti-biotics and hospitalization are several thousand times more expensive than vaccines.)
I like to refer to this as the Cassandra effect. When a doctor tells you "Take this vaccine. It will PREVENT a future you won't enjoy", they may be ignored, which makes the prediction come true. If they heeded their doctor, that future doesn't come to pass, so how does the ordinary person react? "Hey, I didn't get sick so my doctor doesn't know what he's talking about." Snark.
Ah, humans. They is the strangest critters,,,
Gary 7
Not just breaking into labs.
The smallpox virus has been sequenced, for one. It's quite conceivable that someone could recreate it without any stored virus at all. In fact, that possibility is one reason for destroying the remaining sample: if we really needed to, we could replace them from bits and bytes, which are much less infectious.
Even without full-up viral synthesis, variola is only a few codons away from a common animal pathogen; that's almost certainly its origin. Modifying that animal virus would be easier for those who don't have the means to synthesize it from scratch.
Considering some of the toxic insanity that prominent antivaxxers have spread in the past regarding the "essential role" that measles (for one) plays in human development, it wouldn't take much of a mutation for them to crossbreed with the "Animal Rights" groups. The hybrid would strike a blow for species preservation by liberating smallpox to once again play its essential role in the world.
What if everything you believed about vaccines was wrong? Vaccines are targeted at disease entities that have no objective existence, are without extension in time and space. Hence, diseases are a metaphysical focus for vaccine treatment. There is no there there.
Koch was wrong. By reducing the symptom picture to the elements in common, he missed the unique qualities of each individual. Suffering is always particular. Industrial medicine is always universal. To fit the universal into the particular, the theoretical foundation has to be created ex nihilo.
The theoretical foundation of vaccines is a mess. Epidemiological investigation is a political and industrial tool. Any symptom can be attributed to any cause so long as it fits the prerogatives of the investigating agency. And, if the symptom appears to be caused by vaccines, then the cause is almost always a coincidence.
A change in the symptom picture is called a success for vaccines. Whereas, the death and suffering actually increases. Deaths by smallpox have been replaced by other morbidities equally conditioned by poor nutrition, lack of clean water, and lately, GMO food.
Disabilities and death prevented by vaccines have been superseded by an epidemic of brain dysfunction, immune failure, and CNS disorders on an unprecedented scale.
Vaccines are the modern plague.
Vaccines are targeted at disease entities that have no objective existence, are without extension in time and space.
Then what, pray tell, is in the scanning electron micrograph at the top of this picture?
You might have been able to make your argument sound convincing a couple of centuries ago, when germs were just a theory. Now that we've actually seen them and have a pretty good understanding of how they physically cause disease, you've got a lot more evidence to explain away.
Vaccinating a person against polio triggers their immune system to produce antibodies which will bind to poliovirus. These antibodies physically prevent the virus from bonding to receptor sites on cells and gaining entry — one could compare it to the police putting a boot on an illegally parked car, disabling the car. We know this because it has been observed, and because the chemistry and immunology all say it will work, and because experimental evidence shows that when people are vaccinated against poliovirus, they do not develop poliomyelitis even when exposed, and mass vaccination campaigns are consistently accompanied by a dramatic decline in the number of cases (with and without comorbitities or death).
We know what poliovirus does. We know what antibodies to polio do. We know how to trigger the immune system to produce such antibodies. We know that vaccines are effective at providing this trigger (because of trials in which volunteers received the vaccine and had their blood tested for proper seroconversion).
You will need to find alternate explanations for all of that if you wish to be at all convincing.
Deaths by smallpox have been replaced by other morbidities equally conditioned by poor nutrition, lack of clean water, and lately, GMO food.
If this is true, why has the human population exploded in the last few decades? Why has life expectancy increased rather than remaining static? (Note: good food and clean water protects you from dysentery and cholera, but it doesn't protect you from smallpox.)
"Vaccines are targeted at disease entities that have no objective existence, are without extension in time and space."
Dang, I guess we can do away with the hand sanitizers and antimicrobial soap now, eh? I always notice how pseudoscientists like to pull vocabulary out of physics. Granted, normally a great choice (disclosure: my degree was in physics), as Rutherford obnoxiously put it: "Physics is the only true science, everything else is stamp collecting." Sadly, antivaxxers, in the view of Rutherford (who got his Nobel in chemistry much to his chagrin) would be over in the philatelic camp.
"without extension in time and space" indeed. Sounds rather scientific-ky doesn't it? Has some kind of Einsteinian ring to it, no? As if diseases and the vaccines created to prevent them would be capable of travelling anywhere near the speed of light (3 x 10E10 meters per second, or really, really fast, or, if you're doing your physics homework: c=1). But we all know what it means: Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Pseudoscience is full of these zero information phrases, and tend to pull their words from physics more than any other science. Chemists and geologists may have a few cranks, but they all pale in comparison to what physicists have to put up with. Everyone wants to be seen as the next Einstein, but not the next Pauling.
How many quacks and contemporary snake oil peddlers base their pitches on "quantum" something or other? Or "relativistic" hoozawazit? It's akin to the funny mish mash of "engrish". Except we kind of understand what the poor soul who was tasked to write/tranlsate the manual for our imported gadget meant to say. We have no clue what these phonies who steal physics vocabulary are trying to say. Well, other than "trust me, it's complicated, just buy this thing I'm selling."
The funny thing is that despite this appropriation of the words, pseudoscientists rarely use the true language of physics: Math. Math that makes your head hurt and requires the use of letters that are used to sell tasty Greek cuisine. Mmmm, greek food.
@Stephen Becker
"…What if everything you believed about vaccines was wrong?…"
Apparently in your case, it is.
#41 said "100% of vaccines are 100% safe and 100% effective!"
That part of my comment was addressed to him.
As for vaccine trials. Yeah I still approve of them. We're not exposing them to anymore risk than they would already see in their daily lives before a vaccine existed. It is not actively injecting someone with a disease.
Maybe you could argue there is moral hazard at play and those that believe they are vaccinated are more reckless with their health precautions.
And that rebuttal of The Atlantic article was rather long and vitriolic. I was looking for good statistics. Not a tit for tat.
to be fair, jenny mccarthy and friends are not totally anti-vaccine. they are anti toxic ingredients in vaccines (like ammonia) and also advocate a different schedule for kids' vaccinations–instead of cramming every vax into the first 24 months of a child's life, spreading them out so it's easier to monitor whether the child has an adverse reaction to a particular one.
i'm for vaccines–i agree that they have saved millions of lives and are among the greatest achievements of medical science. But why has the number of required vaccinations has nearly tripled in the past 25 years? I'm 37, had the required vaccinations as a child, and grew up hale and hearty. Why do today's kids need so many more vaxx than I did?
Yes, two thumbs up to what sn said… While I support all parents making educated choices on when (if ever) they choose to vaccinate, the anti-vax movement is creating an all-or-nothing mentality with some parents and with pro-vax supporters. All involved could benefit from a safer schedule and fewer toxins being introduced at any age. It is always healthy to question what we put in our bodies, and our children's bodies. When did that become inappropriate? It's all about making informed choices based upon the individual, not blindly following a generic schedule while believing that lobbyists (pro- or anti-) are keeping your family's best interest in mind.


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Gabourey Sidibe Slays Twitter Haters After Golden Globes
American Horror Story: Coven's Gabourey Sidibe had the last laugh Sunday night, after the Golden Globes. Spurned into action by free flowing hate speech on Twitter attacking her appearance at the Globes, Gabourey let the masses have it with one brilliant fell swoop.
In response to comments like @jack_antoinette's (which reads, "I get it Gabourey Sidibe you tried to do the "hour-glass" look in that dress. You just missed it about 10 hours"), the critics' darling replied:
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This short article praising Gabourey Sidibe's response to Twitter-haters regarding her Red Carpet look is, on the surface, a "you go girl" moment. I really wanted to write a blurb of empowerment and support, but I don't find that reflected here. I'm frequently disappointed in "Instinct" for its preoccupation with absurdism, hyper-masculinity, whiteness, and its general lack of objectives as a "gay magazine." (i.e. It attempts to represent itself as a celebratory space for LGBT issues and culture, while also headlining news of fathers who sell their sons into sex-slavery).
I find myself asking: from a subculture that values such a narrow silhouette--on men and women--as "sexy" or "beautiful," are they really only rallying to Sidibe's side because they perceive her as sassy? Diva-ish?
Why is the only acceptable defense for gays is that heavy women (or men) respond like divas? Should we not be rallying to intercept the hate speech from the ignorant? Holding ourselves accountable to the ways in which we encourage the perception of heavy/overweight bodies as easy targets? Am I being unfair here?
I'd like to see an article directed at the widespread amount of fat-shaming and psychological assault that occurs against LGBT peoples within their own community.
I understand where you are coming from. I myself often find myself asking the same questions. But the point is they are reporting a woman who is strong enough to remind the people who torment her day in and day out that their words can't change how the world works. Shes showing us she can handle her life situations and doesn't need everybody rushing to her side.


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Crunchy Chopped Salad with Sugar Snap Peas, Jicama, Radishes, Tomatoes, and Green Garbanzo Beans
This Crunchy Chopped Salad with Sugar Snap Peas, Jicama, Radishes, Tomatoes, and Green Garbanzo Beans has so many of the flavors I love in salads. And it's a sign of spring when I start making big crunchy salads to eat for lunch. My lunch salads can include just about anything that's in the fridge or on the counter, and when I come up with a combination that's especially good I'll often make it again the next day and take pictures for the blog.
I love crunchy ingredients in salad, so the crunch factor from sugar snap peas, radishes, and jicama gave this salad that extra something that made it a keeper for me. The tomatoes and green garbanzo beans gave the salad some other textures, and I used a barely-spicy cumin-lemon vinaigrette that was perfect with the other flavors.
I trimmed the ends of the sugar snap peas and cut them into diagonal pieces.
The radishes were cut in half and sliced in half-moon slices.
I love jicama in salad, but turnip is a good substitute. This was cut into cubes.
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Crunchy Chopped Salad with Sugar Snap Peas, Jicama, Radishes, Tomatoes, and Green Garbanzo Beans
(Recipe created by Kalyn for a lunch salad; makes 2 whole-meal salad servings or 4 side-dish salads.)
1 C diagonally sliced sugar snap peas
4-5 large radishes, trimmed, cut in half, then cut in half-moon slices
1 C jicama, cut in cubes (about 1/2 large jicama)
1 C cherry tomatoes, cut in half
1 cup green garbanzo beans, thawed if frozen (other types of beans could be substituted.)
2-3 cups chopped romaine lettuce
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3 T extra-virgin olive oil
If using frozen green garbanzo beans, thaw by running hot water on them for a few minutes, then let them drain while you prep other ingredients. (To substitute other canned beans, dump beans into a colander placed in the sink and rinse with cold water until no more foam appears, then let beans drain while you prep other ingredients.)
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Brewing Beer at Home: Tasting the Homebrew Beer Sessions
The day has finally arrived! Our homemade beer has been brewed, fermented, and bottled. We've survived two weeks of anxious anticipation without a single bottle exploding. A few days ago, we put a couple of bottles in the fridge to cool and tasted our very first homebrew a few hours later!
The verdict: decent, definitely decent! It's very sweet and malty and with almost no discernible hops. Fairly one-dimensional, but this is about what we'd expected from a kit brew. We liked the level of carbonation and even got a thin, but definite, head on the beer.
It's definitely not the best beer we've ever tasted, but it's good enough to drink and good enough to make us excited to brew some more!
An interesting side note: we gave in to our eagerness and actually tasted one of the beers a few days before we technically should have. We figured it would just be less carbonated than if we'd let it sit longer, but would still taste the same. But it was awful. Not spit-it-out awful, but awful enough that we eyed the other 50 bottles with a little fear in our hearts.
Two days later, some friends visited and insisted on trying the beer despite our protests. They took a few sips and pronounced it good! We tried some ourselves in disbelief, and lo and behold, the beer had actually improved in those two extra days. Instead of tasting like beer-y soda, it actually taste like real beer.
The moral of the story is that you can't rush beer or judge it too quickly, and we've learned our lesson. Onward we go!
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