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What's the Matter With Twentysomething Kids Today?
A Slate discussion on the state and fate of young people.
Readers, please join us in this Slate discussion of the New York Times' piece on twentysomethings by posting your own thoughts and questions in the commenting section below the article.
Nathan Heller
Welcome, everyone. Yesterday the New York Times Magazine posted online a preview of an article, "What Is It About 20-Somethings?" that will appear in this weekend's issue. The piece is by Robin Marantz Henig, and it's a meaty, thoroughly reported look at a question that's rising to the fore as the boomlet comes of age: What's the matter with twentysomething kids these days? Henig describes a trend of "young people taking longer to reach adulthood":
It's a development that predates the current economic doldrums, and no one knows yet what the impact will be. … The traditional cycle seems to have gone off course, as young people remain untethered to romantic partners or to permanent homes, going back to school for lack of better options, traveling, avoiding commitments, competing ferociously for unpaid internships or temporary (and often grueling) Teach for America jobs, forestalling the beginning of adult life.
It's an eloquent portrait of my generation—I'm in my middle 20s—and Henig uses it to introduce the work of Jeffrey Jensen Arnett, a psychologist who's written about a late-adolescent stage he designates "emerging adulthood." Trying to frame Arnett's work, Henig reviews lab research (a longitudinal study of brain development) and past theories of similar trends (e.g., Kenneth Keniston's writing on the twentysomething phase he called "youth"). She weighs socioeconomic factors (have middle-class twentysomethings been too coddled?) and explores how expectations might change if we recognize "emerging adulthood" as a distinct phase. The piece ends with a quandary: "[W]e're caught in a weird moment, unsure whether to allow young people to keep exploring and questioning or to cut them off and tell them just to find something, anything, to put food on the table and get on with their lives."
I'm pretty sure the "we" here does not include me, but it happens I've been chewing on these questions a lot recently (being, you know, a twentysomething of restless and brooding mien), and I have a few thoughts.
My own theory, which I'll throw into the ring to kick things off, is that the underlying assumption of this article is backward: It seems to me that when you look past the surface textures, the governing impulse of my generation isn't the wanderlust-of-the-soul that Henig takes as a premise. It's an abiding, somewhat alarming cultural conservatism. Connect the dots of the predicament she describes, and the picture that emerges isn't of freewheeling disorder and deliberately protracted adolescence; it's a limbo state caused by fixed value systems and pervasive risk-aversion.
I can elaborate as we keep chatting—but did anyone have a similar response? Or is it my 20s talking?
Ann Hulbert
I wrote a "Way We Live Now" piece for the Times a while back in which I suggested that Arnett's new category perhaps says more about how parental figures think about young people than about how young people think about themselves (unless they've by now swallowed their elders' theories). That is, baby boomers have discovered and labeled something as new—the better to obsess over it—that has actually been observed for a century or so in the developed world, not least among their own cohort. (As Henig's article points out, Kenneth Keniston said exactly the same thing about baby boomers back when they were twentysomethings.) Listen to the twentysomething essayist Randolph Bourne, reflecting roughly a century ago on how "in our artificial civilization many young people at 25 are still on the threshold of activity." And like you, Nathan, he didn't diagnose carefree recklessness. All the turmoil had left them, he commented, feeling "startlingly old; one wonders if one will ever feel so old again."
I think I'd agree with both of you in questioning the notion of adolescent limbo. It's true that ages at marriage have crept higher and higher—yet it seems that young people no longer consider being married and having kids the key determinant of maturity. Polls suggest they rate other traditional milestones as more important: finding full-time work, becoming financially independent, and being able to support a family. With debt—an adult experience if there ever was one—more common among students than ever, those milestones presumably take longer to meet, though today's young people hardly look like hopeless procrastinators. Taking those accomplishments into account (leaving out marriage and parenthood), roughly 80 percent of 30-year-olds in 1960 qualified as adult. Now 70 percent do. And if more of them these days hold off on families for longer, under the circumstances couldn't that be the, well, grownup course to take, not a case of arrested development?
Jessica Grose
As a twentysomething, I've also observed something of a backlash to the freewheeling, protracted adolescence bemoaned by our boomer parents. There is some data that bears that out, though not necessarily enough to declare the trend much more than anecdotal: The age at first motherhood has recently dropped for the first time since statistics have been kept, and there is evidence that Gen Y is more marriage-minded than the generations immediately preceding us (though if you look at median age at first marriage on a state-by-state basis there is a lot of variation).
I also find it intriguing that the current complaint about our generation is that we put off growing up, considering the fact that just a few years ago, David Brooks was bemoaning the fact that we were a bunch of overly rigid, achievement-obsessed "organization kids." This leads me to wonder if the current characterization of twentysomethings is almost exclusively based on the economy. Ann, as you point out, we still care very deeply about finding full time work and being able to support a family. We aren't always becoming financially self-sufficient and meeting those particular goals of adulthood in our 20s, not because we're not trying, but because good jobs are incredibly scarce.
Leon Neyfakh
Yeah, I'm not sure where these wide-eyed, hopeful wanderers are. I guess Berlin? Certainly all my friends in New York who are in their mid-20s feel like if they don't get their act together in about five minutes there will be no hope for any success ever. The idea of "taking some time to explore and make mistakes," at least professionally, is not one any of us would seriously consider: The consensus is that unless we specialize and excel before the "age 30 deadline" Arnett mentions, we will be doomed.
On the other hand, most of us also sincerely think there's a good chance the world will end in our lifetimes, so maybe that also explains why we're in such a hurry.
Noreen Malone
With all due respect, Leon, I'm not sure that your cohort in New York is even vaguely representative—people come here to achieve stuff, it's too expensive to just hang out for kicks unless you're parentally bankrolled on a grand scale. Meanwhile, some of my high school friends are touring with their band in South Korea or waitressing in Berkeley or hanging out joblessly in Champaign, Ill., deciding whether to finish that Ph.D. or not. Henig's not wrong that these types exist.
But those are very vintage lifestyles, as Nathan suggests, and it's true that my very first reaction to the piece was anxiety about not keeping pace with my peers in the wandering department—a sad little "organization kid" reaction to have. And my second was the snotty childish (or "emerging adult") reaction that we can very loudly blame our parents, who bought into the myth of their own boomer exceptionalism, and transferred it to us.
In their narrative, as written by Henig, we're not spoiled; we're finding ourselves. That's a very familiar concept to them. Henig even writes: "It's reassuring, actually, to think of it as recursive, to imagine that there must always be a cohort of 20-somethings who take their time settling down, just as there must always be a cohort of 50-somethings who worry about it."
My mom always sort of sardonically refers to kids my age as "petted and feted." But she hung a clipping of mine on the fridge recently and yesterday sent me a care package that included quarters nicely rolled for laundry and apologizes for not funding, like, eco-tourism jaunts to Costa Rica, because all her friends do that for their kids. I feel underprivileged because she feels guilty about not providing something that is very much a luxury. It is very often the case, though, that people end up doing these jealousy-provoking programs and trips because they can't get another job, and their parents are worried about what it will do for their momentum and even mental health to just hang out. Which wasn't what happened at all during the last Depression, when people also got married much later and were jobless for long stretches.
Samantha Henig
I've been thinking about this topic a lot, having been privy to the whole editorial process: Robin Marantz Henig is my mother. (So watch how you talk about her!) I actually had the somewhat bizarre experience of giving her a "background" interview for the piece, during which she, in full reporter mode but still very much my mother, asked me such things as when I planned to get married and have kids. (I'm 26 now.) I, in turn, have given the same treatment to many of my friends, grilling them about whether they think they're adults (an almost universal "no") and when they think that will change (to which my favorite response was "when someone kills my parents and I have to avenge their death, like Batman").
Jess, you're right that a lot of the general discussion about the "Boomerang Generation" is anecdotal, but I think what's interesting about the Times Magazine piece is that it takes it further than that, and I hope we can do the same here. Jeffrey Arnett, the scientist who's pushing for "emerging adulthood" to be considered a unique psychological stage, makes the helpful comparison to adolescence, which, as my mother writes, is "a stage we take for granted but one that had to be recognized by psychologists, accepted by society and accommodated by institutions that served the young." It's easy—and reasonable—to point to external factors to explain this "emerging adulthood trend": the bad economy forcing people to change jobs; advancements in fertility drugs allowing a later start at having kids.
There were similar changes a hundred years ago (being in school longer, delaying marriage and childbearing) that allowed people to recognize the existence of adolescence. But we now pretty widely recognize it as a phase distinct both from childhood and adulthood. So is "emerging adulthood" comparable?
One of the best arguments to me that emerging adulthood, like adolescence, is its own phase (which means it's not just a Millennial thing or just a recession thing) is what's happening in the brain. Just like adolescents might go through their "identity exploration" by turning to promiscuity and excessive drug use, or by locking themselves in the basement playing video games and never so much as touching a beer or a boob, "emerging adults," too, can take a number of forms. But one thing that bonds adolescents across the board is what happens with their hormones. And scientists are seeing similar physical manifestations of "emerging adulthood," with the new realization that the brain does not fully mature until age 25 or so. There's definitely a cultural element to these phases (and, as you mentioned Jess, an economic one), but it looks like there's a physical one, too.
The other interesting question to me is why all this matters, beyond the level of "Well now I can send this article to my parents and get them off my back." (Unless your parent wrote the article, in which case she already sort of gets it.) On a policy level, we offer protections to children and to adolescents: They have a separate criminal justice system; they can be declared as dependents on taxes and covered by their parents' health insurance; they are guaranteed a free education. If we do come to accept this new period between adolescence and adulthood as its own stage, what policy implications should that have? This is, of course, an age group that often enters the workplace laden with student debt. If a 22-year-old doesn't even have a fully mature brain yet, should we really expect him to be on top of paying off his loans, managing his health care plan, and all the other hassles that come with full-on adulthood?
Nathan Heller
Thanks, Sam. One question we seem to be orbiting is whether the "changing timetable for adulthood" is really much of a change. I found myself slightly unclear—maybe you can set me straight—on how the various pieces of the Times article fit together: We're given evidence on the one hand it's a developmental stage and should be recognized as such (i.e., that it's not unique to this moment), and on the other hand we're told that something is different (and not just for economic reasons) among this current crop of twentysomethings.
Is this a new problem? Is it a problem at all? As I read that Times thesis paragraph I quoted earlier, I couldn't help but hear echoes of Didion's opening to "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" sounding the siren nearly half a century ago: "Adolescents drifted from city to torn city, sloughing off both past and the future as snakes shed their skins, children who were never taught and would never now learn the games that had held the society together."
Let's talk about those games. One of the things I thought the Henig piece was a little slippery on was whether twentysomethings hadn't yet learned the games (an adolescent development issue) or whether they knew the games all too well but are having difficulty playing them (the drive to get to a stable place that Ann and Leon are pointing to). That's partly what I was thinking, too, when I said I found a strain of cultural conservatism in my contemporaries: There seems to be an emphasis on playing the games we've inherited—or else kind of hanging around town, biding time till we have an opportunity to—rather than creating new games, which has been more the emphasis among young people at various points in the past. For all the inevitable comparisons to the '60s generation, in fact, this strikes me as a very different sensibility than what Didion, or for that matter Keniston, was describing. (Keniston, we should say by way of context, cast himself as perhaps the leading therapist figure for campus unrest in the late '60s and early '70s; he wrote prolifically on the subject for the mainstream press during those years and was one of a handful of campus academics who theorized the student movements as they were going on.)
Do people have other thoughts on this comparison to the state of youth circa 1970, which everyone, including David Brooks, seems to want to make? That Batman line you quoted, Sam, is great—and also interesting because the idea of being overshadowed by one's parents, and their expectations, is a recurring motif of the '60s counterculture. Has it indeed all been done before—and, if so, done for the same reasons?
Samantha Henig
Nathan and Ann, I love thinking about the fact that for all the hubbub about Millennials flitting around and delaying responsibility, we're actually no different than the boomers in the way we navigate the early adulthood years. I just stumbled on another example of that during my lunch break, from Martin Amis' 1973 novel The Rachel Papers, which I'm currently reading. Speculating on his upcoming 20th birthday, the narrator muses:
I'd have to throw in my lot with all those twitchy twenty-five-year-olds I had noticed about the place, the characters who find egocentricity numinous in itself. Intermittently articulate, something held back, a third eye hovering above their heads, intrigued and forever gripped by the contrast between them and everyone else.
Look round: everything, except you, is (wait for it) quite unlike what you are, altogether dissimilar, a totally different kettle of fish.
Too true! Emerging adults are both different from everyone else and totally obsessed with talking about how different we are. I fear that by engaging in this very conversation I am shamelessly playing to type.
Still, I will engage a little further to ask whether you all think that labeling "emerging adulthood" as a psychological phase, as Arnett wants to do, would validate the hardships that come with it. We're used to excusing, to some extent, the tantrums of a toddler or the melodrama of a high-schooler because we understand that they're going through important steps of setting boundaries, exploring, forming their identity. And although plenty has been written about Gen Y twentysomethings hopping from job to job and shirking the family life, I feel like Arnett's positive branding of this phase—not the entitled "extended adolescence" but the forward-looking "emerging adulthood"—does something new. If he's right, then it's not that we're lazy or scared of commitment, nor is it as simple as being victims of a bad economy; we're going through a necessary phase of development that will help us take on the grown-up responsibilities coming our way.
What fascinates me is how this could play out, if Arnett's does eventually become the accepted position. How might the government cater to this group? Letting young people stay on their parents' health insurance until age 26 was a good first step. Deferring student loan payments would be another. How about requiring landlords to offer six-month leases to twentysomethings? Or government-issued "career changing" grants that give you some money to start off on a new path, allowing you to accept, perhaps, that unpaid journalism internship that would otherwise be infeasible? Any other thoughts on policy implications?
Noreen Malone
Sam, I think I would answer your question about whether I feel like an adult with a yes—because I pay my own bills, with the exception of a spin cycle or two—and so I worry about money, which is the most adult feeling in the world, as Ann points out. But my friends who are unemployed but not funded by their parents worry even more about money, and some have gotten into credit card debt as a result, so they're getting the sort of charred aftertaste of adulthood without even having gotten a bite of the real thing. (I can blame the boomers for passing on bad spending habits there, too, I suppose). And I am very much surprising myself with my conservatism here, but I don't think the government catering to us more is necessarily the answer.
Student loan deferments and health care extensions I can totally get behind, but advocating for career-path change funding is sort of self-parodical. This isn't—at least as set forth in the Times piece—a problem of true underprivilege. So, fine, our brains aren't done developing until at least 25—but isn't the last part and most important of an education figuring out for yourself how to move forward with your own wheels and steering? Teething is a painful growth process, too, but we don't try to delay it. Wouldn't funding for practical job training be better? Passing a better student-loan-reform bill? We're upset because the implication behind all this hand-wringing is that we're coddled dilettantes (as opposed to true bohemians, or nose-to-the-grindstoners, or something), so why do we want to formalize a structure for dilletantism?
Nathan Heller
Sam, thanks for the Rachel Papers quote—"characters who find egocentricity numinous in itself" is a fantastic Amis line. It makes me think of a sentence in Dave Eggers' first book, which has not coincidentally become a canon text of self-absorbed twentysomethingdom, that goes something like (I don't have it at my desk, so I'm paraphrasing): It is very difficult to make the lives of people in their early 20s seem interesting, even though those people were convinced their lives were extremely interesting at the time. I think we can safely declare that the particular egocentricity of this age is timeless.
That said, let's keep talking about ourselves. I don't have much of a mind for policy, so I'll let smarter people around this table take up that baton—but I had the same thought as Noreen: All of the possible governmental gestures you enumerate, Sam, offer leniency. None apply constraint (in the way that being unable to vote, or drink, or rent a car does). Is there any concern that shaping policy around the idea of "emerging adulthood" could help create a hyperindulgent phase in which people have every adult privilege but few adult responsibilities? And that this could simply defer further, rather than eliminate, that painful grownup reckoning?
Samantha Henig
I pay my own bills too, Noreen, but I don't feel like that makes me as an adult. I have plenty of grown-up responsibilities, but I'm not responsible for anyone but myself. If I want to live a totally selfish life (which arguably would still include paying my bills, for the selfish reason of wanting to avoid late fees and keep my utilities running), I can. No one is counting on me, and any wrong moves—romantic, career, financial—only hurt me. It's that, more than my bank account or job title, that makes me feel like I'm not quite a grown-up. The stakes are just too low. And even though I'm not one for trips to Asia to find myself or whatever, the fact remains that if I wanted to and could afford to take one, there'd be nothing truly standing in my way. Like, say, a hungry toddler.
I told all of that to my mother during our off-the-record interview when she was working on this piece, and she raised the very reasonable question, "Well what about people who don't have kids? Are they never adults?" I stammered about it then, and I can't say that I've figured it out now. I'm thinking about George Clooney here. When, if ever, did George Clooney grow up?
Noreen Malone
By that definition, empty-nesters and retirees aren't entirely adult, either—they can go off to Asia on a whim, too. Maybe that's why our parents need to keep taking care of us, to feel adult. (And why they're way more fun to split a bottle of wine with than parents of young children.)
I almost definitely was overselling my own maturity. I guess a better answer is that I feel more adult than I did a few years ago, because I have been living in the same place and paying the same bills, and something about that feels calcified in a certain way. Repetition sliding into settledness would not be a compelling advertorial slogan for adulthood, but that seems like at least a component of it, even if it's not as clear a yardstick. Pre-kids, it's rare to have a sea-change feeling.
Ann Hulbert
I'm with you, Noreen, in thinking that the last thing twentysomethings need is to feel that they are not only labeled by their elders, but also solicitously enabled by them. Sure, some things—like health insurance and better loan arrangements—will help. But almost inevitably, won't more fine-tuned facilitating make the process of claiming, and feeling, independence more difficult, not less? Adolescence as we now know it has undergone something of that same fate, as the period became one deemed in need of adult defining, directing, underwriting. There was less room for the unsupervised rebelliousness that youth once enjoyed. There was also less of the kind of age-mixing that had been more common as a more monitored peer-culture emerged. It seems to me that the sense of being relegated to an adult-defined cohort is part, Sam, of what gets in the way of feeling grown up—perhaps even, or especially, when the well-intentioned defining is supposed to be developmentally liberating.
Jessica Grose
Isn't New York Magazine always writing about how parents act like children, anyway (see "Grups")? And what of the line in Greenberg: "The adults dress like children and the children dress like superheroes."
Boomers also still don't want to think they're grown-ups. See those ridiculous Dennis Hopper surfing ads for Ameriprise? They're going to turn retirement upside down!
I think we're having a discussion now about thinking like adults vs. behaving like adults. None of us may feel like adults, but almost all of us certainly behave like them.
Nina Shen Rastogi
When I saw this line in Henig's piece: "Arnett calls it 'the age 30 deadline' " ... I read the phrase as "the age 30 decline." Which could be the title of my autobiography at the moment. I feel like I'm at a point in my life where the demarcation between "adult" and "not an adult" is shifting. In my 20s, I figured I'd be an adult whenever I had a cool-sounding job and learned how to stop dating assholes. But now it's become a financial matter: I'll be an adult when I have—or am on my way to having—enough money to buy a home, pay for a couple of kids' tuitions, and be secure in the knowledge that I'll be able to take care of my parents when they need me. And I'm so pissed no one explained to this to me earlier! Self-actualization is starting to seem like kind of a bum deal ... and yet, I'll never get over feeling like I'm a beautiful flower who deserves (and has a duty) to find herself. Call it the Scylla and Charybdis of the overeducated, middle-class, rapidly aging "emerging adult."
Dan Check
Reading the piece, I kept thinking that the subhead should have been "The science behind why you don't have grandkids yet." This felt like an article by boomers, for boomers. I do think that the trend towards delayed marriage and child bearing is real—especially among the children of Times readers—but I don't particularly like the idea of viewing my 20s through a scientific lens, or through our parent's generations' need for us to grow up.
By way of analogy: When I was in seventh grade, I had sex education in school. It focused almost exclusively on STDs. I remember talking to my father—who is loving but reserved—about it in the car one day. He took a really long beat, blushed, and blurted out, "I hope they're telling you that it's fun, too." Needless to say, that was a detail that they'd omitted from the seventh-grade curriculum.
Like that junior high sex ed class, this piece just drains the enjoyment out of "early adulthood." It's not just anxiety, confusion, and failure to start a real career (although it is certainly all that). I had a great time: I graduated into a recession in NYC, had very little direction, and worked just as hard as I needed to pay my rent and go out every night.
Several years ago, I met my wife, got my first W-2 job, moved to D.C., and had a child. Today, when I got home, my 21-month-old son said, "I love you," for the first time. Which is to say: I am now an adult of the most traditional sort. I don't think that the "early adult" version of his father will be recognizable to him; parents have a way of keeping these stories from their children, and I doubt I'll buck that trend.
So while I think that the phenomenon (at least for highly educated folks) is real, I also think that parents need to worry about it less and accept that their children are grown, whether or not they have full careers, spouses, or children. And people in their 20s should know that post-collegiate years are particularly disorienting, especially in a down economy, but that life is long and adults can have fun, too.
Leon Neyfakh
Many of the things people have said here made me think of a letter my friend Shane showed me once, from the political philosopher and social theorist (and Brazil's former minister of strategic affairs) Roberto Unger to his young son. It's the wisest thing I've ever read about growing up. I'd say more about it, but paragraphs like this leave me dumbstruck:
As we pass through childhood, each of us, a storehouse of alternative ways of becoming a person, imagines many different courses of action and of life he may later take. However, we cannot be everything in the world. We must choose a path, and reject other paths. This rejection, indispensable to our self-development, is also a mutilation. In choosing, as we must, we cast aside many aspects of our humanity. If, however, we cast them aside completely, we become less than fully human. We must continue somehow to feel the movements of the limbs we cut off. To learn how to feel them is the first major work of the imagination.
Nathan Heller
On that excellent note, let me thank all of you for your engaged and provocative thoughts on this subject—especially our readers, who have contributed enough smart ideas to sustain the discussion for weeks.
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There are a lot of tools let users easily download YouTube MP4 and FLV videos on the web. However YouTube MP3 downloaders are quite few, especially for downloading high quality MP3 audio. YouTube To MP3 High Quality Downloader is a windows desktop tool that downloads YouTube videos to high quality MP3 music files directly. The application has the ability to search and choose the best HQ resource from YouTube, and download the high quality file. Besides the MP3 format, YouTube To MP3 High Quality Downloader also supports to save the audio to original AAC format, or downloads the MP4 video.
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Milwaukee police are investigating a stabbing that happened early Tuesday morning on the south side.
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The victim drove himself to a parking lot near Sixth Street and Edgerton Avenue after he was stabbed, according to police.
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BOSTON — As election season heats up in Massachusetts, debate continues on how to redraw voting districts. Last year, the state learned it would lose a Congressional seat as the bulk of the nation's populated shifts West.
|A view of the current Massachusetts' Congressional district map, which will change after redistricting removes one district.
In an interview with WGBH's Callie Crossley, Kevin Peterson, of the watchdog group Massachusetts Empowerment Coalition, is urging Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick to step into the process to ensure that minorities receive fair representation when districts are redrawn.
"We called on the governor because in the past redistricting cycles, other governors including Jane Swift and Bill Weld jumped into this process preemptively also," Peterson said.
But not all groups are happy with that suggestion. Jack E. Robinson, chairman of fairdistrictsmass.org and a former candidate for U.S. Senate, says the state needs to let the process play out first.
"I disagree that the Governor should be injecting himself into this debate at this time. I think it's a legislative process, it's the legislature that's required to present fair maps, and I would urge the Governor to standby and let's see how things pan out before the Governor is forced to take a position. I just think that it's the legislature's job, let the legislature do its job," Robinson said.
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Upon transferring to Baylor prior to the 2011 volleyball season, senior Alyssa Dibbern found adjusting to life at a Big 12 University to be more difficult than she had expected. With the help of head coach Jim Barnes, teammates like Kate Harris and a renewed faith, Dibbern soon realized just how vital of a role she plays on this Baylor volleyball team.
Dibbern spent two years at San Jacinto Junior College where she earned a multitude of honors including being named a two-time All-American and 2010 NJCAA Most Valuable Player.
Barnes and the rest of the Baylor coaching staff convinced Dibbern that Baylor was where she needed to be in order to grow as an individual and a player.
"I could not believe I was getting the opportunity to play for a huge Division I team," Dibbern said. "I also found out it was a private, Christian school and thought 'How much better could this get?'"
Dibbern saw action in 29 games during 2011, but only 14 of those were starts. Dibbern's confidence took a heavy hit and she quickly realized that she wanted something different for her senior season.
"She put in the work to have the kind of senior year she is having," Barnes said.
It was this extra dedication, which included intense spring training and foregoing her summer holiday, that helped Dibbern regain her confidence.
"My mentality has really improved. Last year I felt like I could not do anything right, Dibbern said. "Even if it was a really good play, I could find something I could tear myself up about. Over break, I prayed about it and now I try to think positively about everything. That has been a huge difference maker."
"Her mindset has been awesome this year," Harris said. "She is really focused and is letting her mistakes go much better this year."
Dibbern and Harris were both transfer athletes and this helped their relationship grow into a quick and loyal friendship.
Along with her improved mentality on the court, Dibbern has also focused on her relationship with Christ. Harris has been one of Dibbern's biggest support system.
"Kate is the one who ultimately helped me through my struggle last year," Dibbern said. "She was there for me when I needed someone to talk to."
Dibbern has also really stepped up as a leader in the 2012 season.
"She is one of our best players and she is one of our best leaders at the same time," Barnes. "That is the kind of player that a coach wants."
As a senior, Dibbern recognizes her role on the team.
"I am more of a lead by example type," Dibbern said. "I feel like that is my purpose on this team."
"She has a great spirit about her," Barnes said. "She is a very caring person and I think that is why her teammates love her so much."
So far, Dibbern is the kill leader for Baylor this season.
"On the court, she is one of the girls that can put the ball away for us," Barnes said. "She is one of the players that can help us play at the Big 12 level."
After graduation, Dibbern plans on pursuing a career in marine biology with the hopes of also competing in sand volleyball.
"I am going to try to move to the coast and work with the ocean and pursue a beach volleyball career," said Dibbern. "That is my hope."
Harris would also like to join her best friend on this journey.
"Our dream since we were little has been to play sand volleyball in the Olympics," Harris said. "I just love that girl. It has been a blessing to see her grow and to be able to grow with her."
Most importantly, Dibbern is confident that the Lord will lead her down the right path and that is what drives her day-to-day decisions.
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Celebrating the Poetry of Abstraction at Pifo Gallery in Beijing
A student of Thomas Zipp, Benjamin Appel envisions the intersection of painting, sculpture, and everyday objects in his practice. His works across mediums bear strong visual and thematic resemblances, characterized by a tendency towards minimal forms, architectural geometry, and unglamorous or untraditional media—drawing an allegiance with Arte Povera, Appel frequently uses the unfinished surfaces of concrete, earth, soil, old furniture, and wood. His thickly built-up oil paintings have a similar tactility, but are even more austere in form and color palette.
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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — Tropical Storm Bertha swirled through the eastern Caribbean on Friday night as it unleashed heavy rains and strong winds in the region, knocking out power on some islands.
The storm's maximum sustained winds held at 50 mph (85 kph), and no significant change in strength was expected over the next two days. Bertha was centered about 180 miles (295 kilometers) southeast of St. Croix in the U.S. Virgin Islands and was moving west-northwest at 22 mph (35 kph) late Friday.
The storm was expected to pass near Puerto Rico and possibly over the eastern Dominican Republic on Saturday. As much as 3 to 5 inches (8-13 centimeters) of rain was forecast for Puerto Rico, with isolated amounts of up to 8 inches (20 centimeters), with the heaviest rain likely in the island's southern region.
Tropical storm warnings were in effect for Martinique, the U.S. and British Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. A tropical storm watch was in effect for the eastern Dominican Republic, the southeastern Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos islands.
On Friday afternoon, Bertha passed just north of the French Caribbean island of Martinique, where officials had urged everyone to stay indoors.
Government spokeswoman Audrey Hamann said in a phone interview that power losses were reported in several parts of the island and that authorities were trying to restore electricity. She said some 150,000 homes were affected by outages but that no injuries or damage had been reported.
In Dominica, Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit ordered all businesses closed by Friday afternoon to prepare for the storm, which left hundreds of people without power along the island's eastern region.
Antigua-based regional airline LIAT also canceled several flights in Dominica and St. Lucia, while the U.S. Coast Guard said it was no longer allowing commercial vessels to enter ports in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
The storm generated some rain and wind as it passed just north of Barbados earlier Friday, but no damage was reported, Judy Thomas, director of the island's emergency management agency, said in a phone interview.
Bertha was expected to generate up to 1 to 3 inches (2-8 centimeters) of rain across the eastern Caribbean, with isolated amounts of up to 5 inches (13 centimeters) in certain areas. Somewhat higher amounts were forecast for Puerto Rico, where a moderate drought has hit the island's southern region and a small portion in the northeast. More than half of the U.S. territory is experiencing abnormally dry conditions, with the government reporting $20 million in crop losses.
Strict rationing measures are scheduled to go into effect starting Wednesday if the storm doesn't generate enough rain.
"Whether it falls where it needs to fall, that's still to be seen," said Jose Antonio Estrada, National Weather Service meteorologist.
He said the storm was moving quickly and its effects would be felt all day Saturday in Puerto Rico. Authorities closed El Yunque rainforest, a popular tourist attraction in northeast Puerto Rico, and ferry rides to the neighboring islands of Culebra and Vieques were cancelled.
It rained less than an inch in June in Puerto Rico, compared with the month's average of more than 4 inches. July saw more rain, but the 3.40 inches (8.64 centimeters) that fell was still down from the average of 4.76 inches (12 centimeters).
Associated Press writer Carlisle Jno Baptiste in Roseau, Dominica, contributed to this report.


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Taste changes may include the complete loss of taste (ageusia), partial loss of taste (hypogeusia), a distorted sense of taste (dysgeusia), such as a metallic taste, or an unpleasant or revolting taste (cacogeusia).
A decrease in or loss of taste is common in older adults. It is part of the normal aging process and may be caused by:
- A decrease in the number of taste buds.
- Changes in the way the nervous system processes the sensation of taste. This may cause a decline in the awareness of taste.
- A decreased amount of saliva or an increased stickiness of saliva.
- Changes in the tongue, making it harder for flavors to reach the taste buds.
Other factors that may cause taste change include:
- A dry mouth.
- Loss of smell. Much of what is thought of as taste is actually smell.
- Minor infections, such as a cold or flu.
- Cigarette smoking or the use of smokeless (spit) tobacco.
- Medicine or surgery. Medicines that commonly distort taste include thyroid medicines, captopril, griseofulvin, lithium, penicillamine, procarbazine, rifampin, vinblastine, and vincristine.
- Nutritional deficiencies of zinc or vitamin B12.
- Injury.
- Certain diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Bell's palsy, hepatitis, Sjögren's syndrome, and oral cancer.
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General Comments: Futures were lower in New York on speculative selling tied to weakness in the Brazilian real, and weakness continued in London due to ideas of big supplies from producers, mostly from Vietnam. Arabica cash markets remain quiet right now and roasters in the US are showing little interest in buying. However, there is very little on offer and that fact has helped hold prices at current levels. There is talk of increasing offers of Robusta from producers as they apparently did not sell when prices were much higher. However, the Arabica market does not show any real changes. Most sellers, including Brazil, are quiet and waiting for differentials or futures to get stronger, and mostly are waiting for futures to move higher. Buyers are interested on cheap differentials. Brazil weather is forecast to show dry conditions, but no cold weather. Current crop development is still good this year in Brazil. Central America crops are seeing good rains now. Colombia is reported to have good conditions.
Overnight News: Certified stocks are near unchanged today and are about 2.746 million bags. The ICO composite price is now 120.48 ct/lb. Brazil should get dry weather. Temperatures will average near to above normal. Colombia should get scattered showers, and Central America and Mexico should get showers. Temperatures should average near to above normal.
Chart Trends: Trends in New York are mixed. Support is at 125.00, 122.00, and 119.00 July, and resistance is at 130.00, 133.00, and 135.00 July. Trends in London are down with objectives of 1800 and 1765 July. Support is at 1800, 1770, and 1740 July, and resistance is at 1830, 1845, and 1865 July. Trends in Sao Paulo are mixed. Support is at 155.00, 153.00, and 150.00 September, and resistance is at 161.50, 166.00, and 170.00 September.
General Comments: Futures were higher in nearby months on ideas that short term supplies available to the market here are very hard to find. Traders are talking about a squeeze right now. The crop progress and condition report was disappointing for the bears as progress remains behind and conditions were lower than expected. Even so, new crop months had trouble rallying as traders waited for a new round of supply and demand estimates from USDA that will be released later today. Trends are up. Ideas of good weather for US crops are still around. Traders are worried about Chinese demand, but there is talk that overall demand increased in the last week. The weather has improved, but it is still too dry in Texas and drier weather is needed for the Delta and Southeast. Dry conditions are forecast for the Delta and Southeast, and dry and warm weather is expected in Texas. Weather for Cotton appears good in India, Pakistan, and China.
Overnight News: The Delta and Southeast will see dry conditions. Temperatures will average above normal. Texas will get dry weather. Temperatures will average above to much above normal. The USDA spot price is now 84.08 ct/lb. ICE said that certified Cotton stocks are now 0.533 million bales, from 0.528 million yesterday.
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i am back, once again with a question. i wish to create a web site or say a tool, that would make enable my pepole to get rid of the hassle of accessing data from our official web site.
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Girls' names change 7 times more than boys' since 1940 Census
|Source -- Social Security Administration (link in article)
I don't come cross too many "young" Diane's and I'm always pleasantly surprised when I come across anyone who share's my name!
My test of a forename's popularity is whether you find it "printed" on merchandise when on vacation! Fortunately or unfortunately for my children, we never find their names printed on anything. Maybe I was a little too successful in giving them unique names!
This comes to mind because last month findmypast.com published a piece talking about baby names and their popularity as found in the 1940 census and today! Here is an abbreviated excerpt.
The most popular baby names for American girls at the time of the 1940 U.S. Census have changed since then seven times more than the top names for boys the same year, reveals a study by genealogy website, findmypast.com...
Findmypast.com researchers analyzed the records of the
Social Security Administration, which has recorded American baby names since
None of the top 10 girls' names in 1940 even make today's top 100, while seven of the top 10 boys' names do so and three (James, David, William) make the top 20.
"Baby names are like period pieces", says Josh Taylor, genealogist for findmypast.com. "Some recall a particular era, which can make them clues when researching family history."
Read the full PR piece.
Back to my name – Diane. I visited the Social Security Administration (Baby Name Data) website to learn more about names and their popularity! In the year I was born, my name was 19th in popularity and the list includes my husband's name, my sister's name, her husband's name, etc. So, we definitely seem to be a product of "our generation!"
And, how far my name has fallen! For 2011, the name Diane is NOT in the top 1000 names, though the variant Diana is found in the 203rd spot! I guess I'm more unique than I thought ....
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|7th February 2007, 11:51 AM
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Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Hi Roger,
The season is coming fast (Hatteras trip in late April)!
I know you answer this a thousand times...
I started windsurfing this summer. I have a Fanatic slalom Bee 125l and a Nova 180l. Although the Bee is 15 years old, it is in good shape and weights 21 pounds.
I only used the Bee 4 times since I've used the foostrap. Since I loves the speed and agility of the Bee (compared to my Nova). I might look to replaced both boards. I weight 180 lb, 34, and I am an agressive intermediate who wants to progress (footstrap, harness and water start ARE OK). I sail 30 times a year in these conditions: 8.5 (35%), 6.7 (35%) and 5.5 (20%) and presently looking for a 4.5 (10%) to complete my sail quiver. 12 days are in Cape Hatteras and others in Montreal, Quebec area.
Any board suggestion? Can a board be good in these broad conditions or 2 is required? if so which to replace? Should I only replace the Nova, keep the Bee and buy a board for light wind or the opposite: keep the nova the light wind and get a board for medium wind?
In other words, which one is the most restrainer (prevent me to get air, jibe or chop fun)? A New Big fatso board or an old design medium wind board.
I came up with an costly idea: 2 new board:
- Carve133 for my 6.7 and 8.5 sails (and 5.5 for 1 board family trip)
- Kombat 95 for my 4.5, 5.5 and 6.7 sails
Thanks for your comments
|7th February 2007, 02:36 PM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
you say you are ocmfortable with a bee 125 so you may want to look at a carve 122, the recommended sailrange is up to 8m?? but i think, if you get yourself a bit of bigger fin you can pull of an 8.5 aswell on it, and you'll be going faster with a bigger sailing range (you could use the 5.5 on the carve aswell).
You can't waterstart you say so i don't know if it is a wise idea to actually buy a kombat already. You can check for second hand boards of similar volume, it'll cost you less, and since you don't use it a lot (you say yourself 30 % of the time) i don't see it as the best buy yet. Once you get to know the techniques then you can transfer to a new kombat but for now i think you can even learn waterstart, harness surfing etc with the carve, there are great boards and the 122 and 133 have more inward footstrap settings which make learning easier and outward for more racing (i'm thinking of the 8.5 in very excellent conditions ).
Haiko, AKA crazychemical
|7th February 2007, 08:33 PM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Sorry about my unclear msg. I am already in the footstraps and do waterstart. It still take me too long to W/S in choppy conditions (3 ft high)!
|7th February 2007, 10:03 PM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Hi mheppell,
With the 4 sails you have & the 2 boards you propose, I presently have a similar quiver. It works.
|7th February 2007, 11:34 PM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Hi mheppel,
I kind of agree with Mike here.
The boards you have are (in my opinion) good for a fairly large range.
You don't state specifically what your primary goal is here.
Light wind planing with your 8.5 ?
Better higher wind performance than your Bee 125L?
Easier learning curve for jibes and chop hops, etc.?
Something a little wider than the Nova with a better fin would help with
early planing, but may not be the easiest to jibe.
The Carve 133 is not going to plane as early (35% of your sailing time) as the Nova, but will be alot easier to gybe.
Maybe with really good technique, the Carve 133 will plane up within a knot or 2 of the Nova, so that may be an OK choice.
Have you fully explored all the potential with your Nova?
Bigger fin, footstraps all the way back and outboard, etc.?
I might suggest one of the larger Isonics (133 or 145) if pure speed and early planing were your primary goals.
Even a GO 155 might provide a little advantage over the Nova, but not much.
So, I'm going to "read between the lines" here (until we hear back from you) and suggest maybe adding only one board to your quiver.
The Kombat 97 or an S-Type 104 or Carve 101 would give you great jibing potential, chop hopping potential, and much better, smoother high wind sailing and control.
It's really about where you want to put the emphasis on your near term progress as to whether you need to replace the Nova and Bee 125L.
Wider boards, with less volume and larger fins/wider footstrap offset should help with your 8.5m2 rig and you may even want to invest in a 9.5 m2 or larger rig to get the full marginal wind potential out of a wider board with a larger fin.
For marginal wind performance, my experience is that width is more important than volume, but since the majority of your sailing is on fresh water, that needs to be a consideration in your choices.
The board that works great in Hatteras (salt water) may not get going quite so early in the gustier winds and fresh water around Montreal.
The S-Type 104/Kombat 97/Carve 101 might be wonderful in Hatteras, but a little short on volume in marginal 6.7/5.5 m2 conditions on fresh water near Montreal.
Lots of things to consider here,
I have the Kombat 97 and Carve 101 in my demo fleet so if you are in Hatteras late in April (April 19-21, 2007) you can come over to the Windfest and give them a try.
Hope this helps,
|8th February 2007, 12:31 AM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Hi Roger,
Thank you of rising up good questions!
I want to continue the natural steps of progressing in windsurfing...which I think will be chop-hop and jibing. In a long term goal, I want to be able to ride at an expert place 2 hrs from home (it's called St-jean on the St-Lawrence river (very windy and strong tide current= big swell).
Primary goals:
Light wind planing with your 8.5 ? YES but I could accept a little less planning ability because better technique is now compensating...
Better higher wind performance than your Bee 125L? I don't know what a newer board has to offer 'cause my old slalom Bee was fast enough with the 6.7m.
Easier learning curve for jibes and chop hops, etc.? YES YES YES
Something a little wider than the Nova ? NO, it is already too cumbersome to carry over the roof or inside the car.
Have you fully explored all the potential with your Nova? NO, but I have a weed True Ames 18" and footstraps are all the way back and outboard.
For now, I don't want to invest for larger rig for lighter wind: I will take a half day off when the wind will be there.
Thank you again
|8th February 2007, 04:45 AM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Roger, here is the quiver selection plan :
Wind range [kt] Board Sail
What do you think about that?
|8th February 2007, 11:02 AM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Hi mheppell,
I know you're wanting Roger's advice, but your quiver is so similar to mine & at 185lbs I'm similar weight. I can maybe give a little extra info & hopefully be somewhat inline with what Roger says.
I agree with Roger's more detailed suggestions. For example, I kind of wonder if I will change my 135l freeride for something like an Isonic. It's hard to really know until you've tried what you have in your local conditions for awhile. I personally think your board selection is quite safe.
My comments on your wind range (I assume your sails are fairly good & modern):
12-18 knots C33 8.5 - Yes about right
15-21 knots C133 6.7 - Yes but if the wind is steady, you could switch to the Kombat
18-24 C133 5.5 - C133 will probably feel too big unless the water is really flat, Kombat on 6.7 or 5.5 would be better
21-27 K95 5.5 - Yep - this is where it rocks!! Give that sail some downhaul.
24-30 K95 4.5 - Yep, but at this point the board may start to feel big, especially in the upper 20's with big gusts & freaky great ramps in the swell. That's why I'm looking at the Acid 80.
I've found the Kombat works best with footstraps outboard. This will be a must for the 6.7 sail. For higher wind, inboard allows more control when overpowered & works very nicely, but, in my mind a bit les than ideal.
Hope all this helps.
|9th February 2007, 12:42 AM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
Thank you Mike,
What are your boards?
|9th February 2007, 06:11 AM
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RE: Board quiver advice for an intermediate
No problem mheppell.
Kombat 96, BIC techno e-large 135L ('04).
North sails 4.7 (DrX) & 5.3 (Instinct)
Sailworks Retro 6.5 & 8.5
Seriously looking at Pure Acid 80
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Aegialitis rotundifolia
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|Aegialitis rotundifolia Roxb.
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|Near Threatened ver 3.1
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|Ellison, J., Koedam, N.E., Wang, Y., Primavera, J., Jin Eong, O., Wan-Hong Yong, J. & Ngoc Nam, V.
|Polidoro, B.A., Livingstone, S.R. & Carpenter, K.E. (Global Marine Species Assessment Coordinating Team)
This species has a very restricted and patchy distribution compared to other species of mangroves within its range. It is considered rare when found, and has an estimated area of occupancy of less than 2,000 km². There is a continuing decline in the area and quality of habitat within its distribution due to extensive coastal development, extraction, and the clearing of mangrove areas for agriculture and aquaculture. It is listed as Near Threatened.
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|This species has a very restricted and patchy range in Bangladesh, India (mainly found in the Sundarbans where they are common, and Andra Pradesh, Andamans and Nicolbar where they are rare), Myanmar, Thailand, and a in a single location in northern Sumatra, Indonesia. It is estimated that its total area of occupancy is less than 2,000 km².
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