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How Much Of A Yankee Killer Was Frank Lary?
Let's start with strikeout-to-walk ratio. In those years, Lary's was 1.62 against non-Yankee teams (I included HBP and took out IBBs-all data from Retrosheet). Against NY, it was 1.71. That may seem consistent with the "Yankee Killer" nick name, but over those years the Yankees themselves had a 1.43 ratio while the rest of the league had 1.32. So the typical pitcher had a strikeout-to-walk ratio that was .11 higher against the Yanks than everyone else. Lary was .09 better. So he was doing just about what other pitchers did.
Now HRs or HR rate (I use HRs divided by PAs with IBBs taken out). Lary allowed the Yanks a 2.6988% while he allowed the rest of the league 1.75%. So the Yanks did about 0.948 percentage points better against Lary than the average team from the rest of the AL. But that is just about normal. Over these years, the Yankees had a rate of 3.0097% while the rest of the league had a rate of 2.162%. The Yankees were about 0.848 percentage points better than the league average. So again, Lary's relative performance vs. NY is about what it was for other pitchers.
What about other hits? Lary's non-HR hit% against NY was .199 while against other teams it was .217. So that is a fairly big improvement. Some how he was better at preventing hits against the Yankees than he was against other teams. The Yankees themselves had a .205 rate while the rest of the league had .204. So the typical pitcher allowed more hits (but not alot more) to the Yankees than they normally did.
So it seems like the one thing that Lary was good at when he faced the Yankees was in preventing them from getting singles, doubles and triples. But the difference was only .018. Over, say, 36 PAs per game, that is just .648 hits. The run value of those hits is about .55 (the weighted average of the linear weights values that Pete Palmer established). So that makes a run value of .36 (interesting that that is just about the difference between his ERA against other teams and the one he had against the Yankees, 3.42 vs. 3.06).
The Tigers did score 4.93 runs per game in his starts against the Yankees from 1955-61. They averaged 4.61 runs per game overall. So the hitters rose to the occassion to support him. And maybe the fielders played a role in lowering the rate of non-HR hits he allowed. So it is possible that Lary became the "Yankee Killer" due to the aid of his teammates.
27 comments:
Interesting. From the fact that the Tigers scored more when he was pitching raises the question of whether or not he was facing the best Yankee pitchers? From a quick glance, it seems he faced the third or forth best starter in the games he won. Could this help account for his success?
- January 1, 2011 at 9:46 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
Thanks for dropping by and commenting. Good point. That is something I wondered about. Here is what I came up with for number of starts by the Yankees
Byrne 3
Ditmar 5
Duren 1
Ford 6
Grba 2
Grim 1
Kucks 3
Larsen 1
Maas 1
Maglie 1
McDermott 1
Monroe 1
R. Coleman 1
Shantz 1
Short 1
Terry 5
Turley 8
Turley, Ford and Terry seem a little low. None of them made even 20% of the starts
- January 2, 2011 at 8:37 AM
- Cyril Morong said...
I found the overall ERA of all Yankee starters during these years. It was 3.39. I found every pitcher who had 1 or more start then calculated a weighted average of their ERAs (using the total ERA of each guy, not just when they started). Then I found the weighted average of the ERAs of the guys who started against Lary (weighted by number of games startred). That was 3.47. Not too much different.
Now that does not take into account how long they stayed in any games or what their ERAs were in the season in which they started against Lary. But my guess is that he faced a typical group of Yankee pitchers overall.
- January 2, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Thanks much for taking the time and in crunching the numbers.
My guess was that after the initial success he had against them, Casey just might have gone with his third orforth best starter or one of his many swingmen to face Lary and that persisted with Houk for most of the rest of his career.
With the exception of Ford, and a couple of good seasons from Turley and possibly Terry, he wasn't facing the best pitching opponent the Yankees had. This could also explain why the Tigers scored more than expected whenever he pitched.
There could be a great study to be made one day of just how much the competition and quality of the opposing pitchers added to or subtracted from the success or failure of some of the great or not so great pitchers and our perceptions of them.
It would be interesting to come up with some kind of metric that could take this into account and give us an even clearer image of every pitchers career and their true value.
Thanks again for taking the time and for the great work you're doing here and elsewhere.
- January 4, 2011 at 7:58 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
You're welcome. Thanks for your observations. Here are the opposing starters. I think they are in order in any given year of when Lary faced them
1955 Turley
1955 Byrne
1955 Turley
1955 Turley
1956 Kucks
1956 Ford
1956 Byrne
1956 Grim
1956 McDermott
1956 Kucks
1956 R. Coleman
1957 Ditmar
1957 Turley
1957 Turley
1957 Kucks
1957 Byrne
1958 Ford
1958 Maglie
1958 Larsen
1958 Maas
1958 Monroe
1958 Ditmar
1958 Ditmar
1958 Duren
1959 Turley
1959 Shantz
1959 Terry
1959 Ford
1959 Ditmar
1959 Grba
1959 Grba
1960 Short
1960 Terry
1960 Ford
1960 Ford
1960 Terry
1961 Turley
1961 Ditmar
1961 Ford
1961 Turley
1961 Terry
1961 Terry
- January 4, 2011 at 8:16 PM
Thank you for the research. Just as I supposed. After his initial success against them, with few exceptions, they paired him up for the most part with less than front end of the rotation pitchers. By my own subjective count, of his 42 starts in this period, twelve came against pitchers who were having good years or who could be considered a number one or two starter. This alone should not only have given him the extra edge in those games, but in all likelihood would explain the exceptionally good results he attained.
Add to that, if we checked further, we'd probably find out that the relievers used in those games were the bottom end guys in the bullpen.
Thanks again.
- January 5, 2011 at 12:28 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
Again, you're welcome. Thanks for looking at the individual starters.
- January 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Perceptions count for a lot in baseball, and they often die hard.
Some beat writer probably came up with the "Yankee Killer" tag one day early in Lary's career, and the tag just stuck, as tags so often do in baseball.
Be that as it may, most players, pitchers included, can point to opponents they do especially well against, for whatever reason.
I've always suspected that one explanation for this is simply that those opponents happened to come up in the schedule at a time when the player was going well. Or when the opponent was going bad.
Baseball is a game of up-and-down periods. Except for a few extraordinarily consistent players (and teams), performance varies widely from week to week and month to month during the course of a season. If a particular opponent happens to face you at a time when you're going well, then obviously your stats against that opponent will vary in accordance.
I guess what I'm saying is that simple randomness is an extremely powerful "force" in baseball, and rarely given its due by writers.
Perhaps another interesting study: what was the Yankees' W-L record in the week prior to each time they faced Lary, and is there statistical significance to their record against him during those times as opposed to everyone else?
- July 24, 2012 at 3:53 AM
- Cyril Morong said...
Thanks for dropping by and commenting. You raise some interesting points and that might be an interesting study, although alot of researchers don't believe in the idea of a "hot hand" so it might not matter if the Yankees were going well or not right before they faced Lary.
- July 24, 2012 at 5:48 AM
To me, a winning percentage of over 2 victories for 1 defeat against the 1955-61 Yankees is enough to earn the moniker. He earned it.
- August 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
edru, you seem to be saying that all you need to know about a pitcher is his won-loss record. I don't think any serious baseball analyst believes that anymore. If he earned the moniker, how did he earn it? Was it giving up fewer hits than might have been expectd, fewer walks, fewer HRs, more strikeouts? It does not look like it.
- August 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
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- August 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM
I think we might be seeing the forest but ignoring the trees here.. I think it probably all comes down to when he was tagged with the nickname. Just taking a quick look at his splits, he went 7-1 with an ERA of 1.86 against the 1958 Yankees, the eventual world champs. He held them to a .204 average, 65 points below their season average... and threw two complete game shutouts as well. That's the kind of season that can earn you a nickname.
- September 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
Thanks for dropping by and commenting. What you say is true, but that season represents less than 20% of his career innings against the Yankees
- September 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM
- John said...
The guy had a 3.06 ERA against what was by far the best team in baseball during that era. What was the rest of the league's ERA against the Yankees from 1955 to 1961? Without having the numbers in front of me, I'd be willing to bet it was probably around 4.50, maybe a little higher. Most of those years, the Yankees were averaging about five runs per game.
Lary was pitching a run and a half better than the league against the Yankees, and he had a good team behind him. And that's why he went 27-10.
- October 25, 2012 at 10:27 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
But you are not looking at my analysis. How did he get that lower ERA? It wasn't through preventing more HRs or a lower SO/BB ratio. It was a lower average on balls in play. So that means his defense played great behind him. It might not have been anything he did.
- October 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM
In an interview with Casy Stengel about his pitching choice against Frank Lary, Casey was quoted as saying that he did not want to waste his best pitcher [presumably Whitey Ford]. So, here's a case for perception by the opposing manager and not just Tiger fans.
- November 12, 2012 at 12:23 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
Thanks for dropping by and supplying that info. But again, what was it specifically that Lary did better against the Yankees? Was it striking batters out, not walking people, not allowing HRs?
- November 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM
I grew up in that period.What "nunyer" commented on for 1958 is probably the reason for the Yankee Killer label. I remember broadcasters and writers using that term for him. All of the analysis with numbers is over doing it.
- August 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM
- mingpooh said...
This is an old analysis, and the comments have been excruciating in their detail, but how about the most obvious questions: did any other pitcher have anywhere near this winning percentage against the Yankees during these years? Remember, the Yanks made the WS 6 times during this periods, so it wasn't like Lary was pitching against the St Louis Browns. And even if Stengel could have managed to manipulate his pitching rotation and match up his lesser pitchers against Lary, it wasn't a second string lineup which was batting for the Yanks. Don't over think this. During those years, for whatever reason, Lary just had their number
- July 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM
- Cyril Morong said...
Can you explain why any part of my analysis is wrong?
- July 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM
With a 'no comment' to preclude your need to validate your analysis--
I believe the difference with Lary vs any mathematic aspect was that he simply made clutch pitches when he had to-- in clutch situations.
That? Is baseball.
You can tear it into as many pieces as you like-- but it comes down to what outcome occurs on any given pitch-- and the game situation of that pitch.
Simply? Lary was great when required.
- December 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM
- Cyril Morong said...
He was not clutch. See his splits at Baseball Reference
Look at the OPS he allowed by leverage. His best situation by far is low leverage
High Lvrge 0.700
Medium Lvrge 0.713
Low Lvrge 0.662
- December 16, 2014 at 12:58 PM
just a test, to see if it works, more to follow if so
- July 25, 2016 at 2:05 AM
I am 75 years of age. I am fascinated by your analysis, because I suffered through the pain of Lary's dominance as youngster, even though much of your explanations I don't follow. As a die hard Yankee fan as a boy, but not thereafter, I suffered through watching in person quite a few Frank Lary complete game victories, mostly in Detroit, once in New York. And I seem to hear most of them through the voice of Mel Allen. It was awful.
But if you don't mind my saying, I think much of his success can simply be attributed to luck. Those advocating indexing in the stock market point to those few who slaughter the index and say, using the odds of getting say tails on 16 consecutive coin flips, for example, that their outlandish success can be attributed to luck, considering the number of people trying to beat the market or even playing the market. Same thing here, there are a lot of games, a lot of pitchers etc.
From 1949-1964 when the Yankees won 13 pennants in 15 years, they did not win two games out of three over those years, even though one of those 2 years when they did not win, they won 103 games, 1954. What other sports dynasty in other major sports did not win two out of three, or even came close to not doing so? So in baseball it just goes to show that no matter how good you are, even if you have lineup of say many Hall of Famers, you are going to lose a lot of games, simply by chance. In other words, in baseball over the long haul, being good, or even being great, is not enough to win two out of every three games. It simply can't be done. Why?
From all the games I watched or listened to Mel Allen on the radio, I don't ever remember the Tigers making a horrible error at a crucial time of the game when Lary pitched (or even Don Mossi in his prime). And it seemed to me that the Tigers always hit the cover off the ball when Lary pitched, Charley Maxwell and Al Kaline in particular. What a lucky break for Lary.
It would also seem fair to discount 1959 the year the Yankees truly were horrible. Lary won 5 times vs NY in 1959, but Mossi won 6 and Calvin Julius Caesar whatever McLish also won 5 times.
I may well have misunderstood your excellent research, but I don't see that you have come up with a viable explanation for Lary's success. Why is randomness not a possibility? Or does Cybermetrics discount luck in baseball?
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- July 25, 2016 at 2:30 AM
- Cyril Morong said...
Thank you for taking the time to read my blog and post your comments. Randomness is always a possibility. Your point about the stock market is a good analogy. It may have been luck that the Tigers hit a bit better and fielded a bit better when Lary pitched.
You might like this article "The Statistical Mirage of Clutch Hitting"
It raises the issue of luck determining who looks like a clutch hitter.
- July 25, 2016 at 4:54 AM
- Doyice Cotten said...
I, like Don McLean earlier, was a die-hard Yankee fan during the Frank Lary era. You have a lot of statistics, but the fact is that Lary did master the Yankees with regularity unmatched by any other pitcher of the era. It seemed at the time that Lary, who incidentally won over 100 games during his career, could throw his glove out on the mound and win.
At the time, and still today, look on Lary as a Yankee-killer ... and let me assure you, I was NOT a Lary fan.
Sometimes perception is correct -- statistics or no statistics.
Doyice Cotten
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Maybe I'm old school in thought, however, Sascha's most recent blog, along with some other things that have struck a cord with me, really got me thinking about one simple question, "WHAT HAPPENED TO HAVING A THICK SKIN?!"
I was ridiculed mercilessly for living with my Grandmother while I was child, for having second hand clothing, for going through someone else's trash to find bike's to clean-up, cannibalize, and slap together just to have a bike. I got my ass kicked on an almost daily basis for how I looked. As a teenager, the ridicule became more about how I dressed - what eventually became the so called grunge look, wearing bobo's, for being fat and uncoordiated, and told over and over that I was butt ugly. One thing that did stop, was getting my assed kicked - I learned my lessons well in that area.
As far back as I can remember, a point that was drilled home from an early age by my own family, or at least those that took the time to have anything to do with me, was the old addage "Sticks and stones may break your bones, but NAMES can never hurt you."
Before I express my view, I do not condone bullyingof any sort. However, the harsh reality of life is (movie quote) Life is pain...Anyone who says differently is selling something. It sucks, it stinks, but that's reality. I'd love to keep my kids sheltered from this one simple truth as long as possible, at least a simple truth as I understand the world. But not too long. I want them to learn to have a thick skin, to learn that names can't hurt you if you don't let them, to gain some much needed armor to a harsh reality of life.
What I see in today's society, is one in which people are encouraged to NOT LEARN how to find the strength to get past the simple bullying of names and ridicule for choices you make for your own life. In my understanding of the world, my own limited perspective, that's just plain wrong. No matter where you go, someone just isn't going to like you for whatever reason, however illogical or illconceived it may be. It's not worth getting upset about it. If my kids learn nothing else from me, it'll be "Sticks and stones can break your bones, but NAMES CAN NEVER HURT YOU."
So, what the hell happened to having athick skin?

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Surgeon and author
I had just completed pre-med school when a friend and I heard that good money could be made in Washington State working on commercial fishing boats. We applied for jobs. My friend wasn't hired because he had no experience, but the captain mistook me for an Aleut native — great commercial fishermen — and hired me. We were at sea when they realized I was of Chinese descent and knew nothing of fishing. Long-lining for halibut was the hardest and most dangerous work I have ever done. It paid for my first year of med school.
My dead-end first job: Age 13 amid 20-year-old agricultural students, I tended the chicks, "but many are dying from dropsy …" Saturday meant killing hens: "Long thin knife up the throat releases their feathers …" I skipped Sunday dinner, stayed vegetarian for years, still prefer turkey to chicken — and as a writer I will never retire.
Branch officer, County First Bank
I was 16 on my first job as kitchen help for lunch at a summer camp at King's Landing Park. I was only paid for two hours, but I spent the whole day in the kitchen with the ladies. It was the most fun thing I ever had to do, and I made some great friends.
Retired college teacher
In the summer of 1942, when I was 171⁄2, I started my first job waiting on tables at Hillmans, a restaurant in Chicago. I was working to earn enough money to pay for my rooming in an apartment while attending Northwestern University. My salary was 371⁄2 cents an hour. My largest tip was a quarter. At the end of the summer, I had earned $100, my first real earnings.
Retired Annapolis city special projects coordinator
As a junior at Falls Church High School, Saturdays found me crouched over a light table blacking out tiny white spots on huge print negatives while listening to Navy football on the radio. The $10 an hour I earned paid for trips to Annapolis to see the home games in person.
Self-professed man of God
My first job was packing ice cream and slinging burgers at Amira's Oasis community carry-out (tables and pinball, too) in Southeast D.C. For $2.75 an hour, I made whiting or steak sandwiches on whole wheat, hotdogs, deep-fried, fetched and lugged supplies from bakery and wholesaler.
Former Annapolis mayor
After selling Christmas cards and Girl Scout cookies, my first job was working for Hutzler's department store in Towson as a counter of people. I would record the number of customers I counted on a route through the store every 15 minutes. That was how the store kept track of the shoppers during holidays. I think I made $50.
Radiology student at College of Southern Maryland
My first job was an office aide at the Calvert Collaborative for Children and Youth. At first it was a little rough to learn how people work together and separately. So many files, where things were. And I learned the computer. It applied well to my life, but I'm hoping someday I'll be more hands-on than sitting at a desk.
By age 10, I worked tobacco for Douglas Parran and Johnny Crane in Lusby, 6am to 6pm summers, for $5 a week. Early spring we made tobacco beds, summers we cut, speared and hung leaves in barns so they'd air-cure. Winters we stripped them. I worked afternoons at home, unpaid.
Senior technical writer
In 1980, I had a summer of first jobs starting with the Youth Conservation Corps. Our first week, we cleared a landfill and alternated nightlong fire-watches in our barracks. It was not at all the Outward Bound adventure I'd imagined. I lasted four days. My dad gave me a weekend to find something else. My boyfriend had just left his job at the T-Shirt Factory in College Park, and I nailed it. I saved enough to get to college that fall.
Sculptor and art teacher
My first job as an artist was making clay animation figures for the film I Go Pogo, a stop-motion, animated film being made in Crystal City, Virginia, in 1980. Based on the then-popular comic strip, Pogo, by Walt Kelly, it was a satire on the presidential elections of the time. My specialty was Albert the Alligator, of whom I made hundreds for the film. The movie didn't get much attention when it was released, but today it has a small but persistent cult following. It's even available on e-Bay.
The Bay Gardener; horticulture professor emeritus, University of Maryland
My first paying job was working as a plumber's helper for my dad. Dad insisted that my brother and I learn plumbing as a potential trade. I worked for my dad weekends and all four summers during my high school years. Later I spent my summer months either working in commercial greenhouses or in a landscape contracting nursery in New Hampshire. I am forever grateful for the multiple opportunities.
Art teacher, Northern High School
As a teenager, I cut fabric at the old Ben Franklin in Prince Frederick. I loved the various designs in the bolts of colorful cloth. I measured and cut by yard and inch, learning that the math and measurement taught in school did have real applications. I learned I'd not become a retail clerk, but an artist.
Bay Weekly columnist; sportsman
My first job at the age of 15 was in my hometown of Erie, Pennsylvania. I worked at a local fruit and vegetable store, unloading crates of produce and dairy products from trucks, stocking shelves, sweeping the store and parking lot and, during the long winter, shoveling the large lot free of snow (in Erie, it snows constantly). The pay was 85 cents an hour. I don't remember what I did with all that money, but I do remember the experience giving me a fierce determination to attend college.
Hair stylist
"Pick a commodity people cannot live without," advised my grandfather Walter Markowich, "Everyone needs haircuts." So at Calvert High I studied cosmetology, then from 4pm to 8pm I swept floors and emptied trash for Dr. Patrick Pierce, a dentist in Barstow. I earned just $1.85 an hour, but he taught me to be a dental assistant.
Calvert County Commissioner; general manager, Wemyss Liquors
My first memory of earning money was here at the store, taking trash out for a quarter. At age five, I was working on the tobacco farm for my father, picking up the ground leaves. At age 14, I was a busboy at Vera's White Sands, an enlightening experience that gave me a glimpse of life outside the farm.
My first paid job was delivering the morning newspaper in Washington, D.C., with my brother, John. I moved on to work as a clerk at Murphy's Five and Dime in PG Plaza, where the cash registers did not add, and I had to do it myself, in my head or on paper.
Retired D.C. schools administrator
I was a carhop in Phoenix at a Dog n Suds Root Beer drive-in. People parked beside a speaker and placed their orders. We carried hotdogs and root beer in mugs to the car on a tray that fit into the window slot. Diners ate in their cars. It didn't pay much, but I loved working nights under the desert sky.
Retired registered nurse
After high school, I worked as a soda jerk in a Walgreen's drug store. At that time, all drug stores had a soda fountain. I had to know the number of squirts of flavoring and seltzer for soft drinks and the number of squirts and scoops of ice cream for milkshakes. I made very little money, but to me it was a lot because it was my first job.
Owner: Twilight Zone Comics
I sold tomatoes and crabs. I sold the tomatoes I raised in my grandmother's yard to Fred's Restaurant. My brothers and I baited trot lines in Back Creek and sold the crabs we caught. My eight-year old sister, Loni, contacted Kids World, and with our crab business we became TV stars.
Sandy Anderson, Dennis Doyle, Frank Gouin, Sandra Olivetti Martin, Ellen Moyer, Elisavietta Ritchie and Janice Lynch Schuster contributed to this article.


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3 Minnesota Police Officers On Leave After Shooting
RICHFIELD (AP) - The Richfield police chief says he's confident three veteran police officers will be cleared in a fatal shooting.
The officers were placed on paid administrative leave after Friday's shooting, which is standard procedure.
The officers are Sgt. Mark Shelley, a 20-veteran of the Richfield Police Department; Officer Tom Blair, a 23-year veteran; and Officer Brian Rogge, a 16-year veteran.
Police were called to a domestic disturbance involving a man with a knife at a Richfield home Friday morning. Police shot and killed 25-year-old Jeffrey O'Connor. No one else was hurt.
In a news release, Richfield Police Chief Todd Sandell says he's confident the investigation will determine the officers followed department policy and that the use of force was justified.
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2012-10-10 / Columnists
Pets Pets Pets
Your cat will thank you for reading this column, especially if you try some of the recipes. Everyone likes to pamper their pets, yet most folks don't consider making homemade treats for their cats. "Why not?" ask the Tiggers and Whiskers of the world.
As long as you use nutritious ingredients and then indulge your cat in moderation, you can offer Miss Kitty some home-cooked delicacies. Treats make great rewards after pills are swallowed or as aids in behavior modification. Experts recommend that cat treats make up no more than 10% of the total calories a cat eats, especially since a 2011 study of the APOP (Association for Pet Obesity Prevention) found that over 50% of cats were overweight or obese. Of course, obesity predisposes cats also to certain conditions like diabetes, liver problems and arthritis.
With that cat caveat in mind, and a reminder that we, the owners, control the number of trips to the cookie jar, here are five cat treat recipes. One may appeal to even the finickiest feline: Catnip Crackers (courtesy of Reader's Digest) Can be prepared in less than 20 minutes. Ingredients: 3/4 cup flour 1/2 cup whole wheat flour 2 tablespoons dried catnip (available at pet shops and in pet aisle at most supermarkets) 1/2 cup yogurt 1 egg 1 tablespoon honey 3 tablespoons vegetable oil Preheat oven to 350°F. In a medium bowl, mix flours and catnip together. Stir in yogurt, egg, honey and vegetable oil. Press out dough on a floured surface and cut into tiny treats using a cookie cutter or pizza wheel. Place on greased cookie sheet and bake for 15 minutes or until golden brown. Store in a covered container in the refrigerator for a week or in the freezer for up to three months. Mackerel Cat Treats (courtesy of the Kathleen C.Cailloux Humane Society of Kerrville, Texas) Ingredients: 1/3 cup canned mackerel, drained and crumbled 1 cup whole grain bread crumbs 1 egg, beaten 1 tbsp vegetable oil or bacon grease 1/2 tsp brewer's yeast (optional) Preheat oven to 350°F and grease a cookie sheet. Mix all ingredients together and then drop 1/4-teaspoon blobs on the prepared cookie sheet. Bake for about eight minutes. Cool. Refrigerate in sealed container. Tuna Treats for Cats (courtesy of Houston SPCA) Ingredients: 1 8oz.can tuna in oil 2 cups cornmeal 2 cups flour 3/4 cup water 2/3 cup oil Preheat oven to 350° F and grease a cookie sheet. Mix ingredients just until combined, and on a floured surface, roll dough to 1/4-inch thickness. Cut dough into small squares, place squares on the prepared baking sheet and bake for 25-30 minutes. Cool. Refrigeratein sealed container. Crispy Liver Morsels (courtesy of Petplace.com) Ingredients: 1/2 cup cooked chicken livers 1/4 cup water 1 1/4 cup whole wheat flour 1/4 cup cooked carrot, mashed 1 tablespoon soft margarine Preheat oven to 325° F. Place well-done livers in a blender with 1/4 cup water. In a bowl, combine flour and margarine. Add liver mixture and carrots and knead dough into a ball. Roll dough to 1/4 inch thick and cut into one-inch sized pieces. Place cookies on a greased cookie sheet and bake for 10 minutes. Makes 12 cookies. Savory Cheese Treats (courtesy of Petplace.com) Ingredients: 3/4 cup white flour 3/4 cup shredded cheddar cheese 5 tablespoons grated parmesan cheese 1/4 cup plain yogurt or sour cream 1/4 cup cornmeal Preheat the oven to 350° F. Combine cheeses and yogurt. Add flour and cornmeal. If needed, add a small amount of water to create nice dough. Knead dough into a ball and roll to 1/4 inch. Cut into oneinch sized pieces and place on greased cookie sheet. Bake for 25 minutes. Makes two dozen.
Adoptables at Babylon Town Shelter (631-643- 9270) Lamar St. W. Babylon: All the cats and dogs at the shelter would just love to have a personal chef to spoil them with treats, but first they rather have a home. "Duchess," this lovely Siamese mix came into the shelter nursing a litter. She is now spayed and waiting for happily ever after. "Prince" the lovable Lab pup in Cage 7, would make a great family dog. More Dogs: "Pork Chop"- Chihuahua; "Peaches"- small Pit mix; "Onyx"- brindle boy.


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Author Notes: I grew up eating my grandmother's salads with hot bacon dressing. She makes hers with escarole; my mother uses sweeter Napa cabbage (which, in retrospect, I have no idea how she found in our small town in Pennsylvania). Bacon dressings usually consist of crisp bacon, bacon fat and vinegar. But my grandmother's is first thickened with flour, then loosened with not only vinegar but water, too. Then, when it all seems a little watered down and hopeless, you thicken it with egg, which creates a little magic in the dish –- concentrating the texture, amplifying the vinegar and whipping up a delicious foil for the salty bacon. —Amanda Hesser
Serves: 4 to 6
Napa cabbage, halved lengthwise and thinly sliced (you'll need 6 to 8 cups)
thick slices bacon, cut into 1/ 4-inch lardons
tablespoon flour
tablespoons red wine or cider vinegar
cup plus 2 tablespoons water
teaspoon salt
egg, lightly beaten
- Place the cabbage in a large mixing bowl. Add the bacon to a medium sauté pan and set over medium heat. Render the bacon fat and brown the bacon, adjusting the heat as needed. Remove the bacon with a slotted spoon to a plate lined with paper towel, then pour off all but 2 tablespoons bacon fat (approximate, don't measure) from the pan.
- Set the pan over medium low heat. Add the flour and stir until smooth. Cook for 1 minute. Stir in the vinegar and water and bring to a boil. Season with the salt. Gradually – and slowly! – whisk this mixture into the egg.
- Sprinkle the bacon on the cabbage, then pour 3/4 of the dressing over the cabbage and toss to mix. Add more dressing as desired (I like a fair amount). Serve with grilled pork chops, roasted potatoes and beer.
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Florida's Historic Attractions
- Students will be able to describe many of florida's attractions.
- Students will be able to explain how Florida's attractions relate to its history.
Sunshine State Standards Benchmarks:SS.A.6.2.2 - SS.A.6.2.3 - SS.A.6.2.5
attractions preserve restored donated massive inventors synthetic interior agricultural astound
Suggested Activities:
- Have the students complete a graphic organizer while reading the passage.
- Assign the students to cooperative work groups. Then have them research the historic attractions discussed in the passage. Each group will present their findings to the class.
- Have each student create a triarama depicting one of Florida's historic attractions. The students should also include a short written report detailing the information about their historic attraction.
- Have the students read Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings' book, The Yearling. Have the students pay close attention to the settings being described. Are they similar to where she lived when she wrote the book?
- Complete and review FCAT questions.
(Note: Actual FCAT practice passages are wrtten at the students' independent reading level. These Florida History selections are written at the students' instructional reading level. Therefore, students should not be asked to complete the questions until after receiving class instruction on the vocabulary and content of the passage. Students should also read the Florida History selection independently before answering the FCAT questions and be permited to return to the selection for rereading as they answer.)
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Don Juan may be the original lady-killer, whose breeches no woman could resist, but he was a fictional lothario whose exploits were bound to the stage, or the libretto, or the page; or, perhaps, if we can find ourselves once again in this post-feminist, enlightened age, to the reveries of women desirous of a little… action. And though he has lent his name to any man who too keenly makes the fairer sex his prey, his adventures have been long outdone by the living.
Genghis Khan (1162-1227)
In fact, centuries before Don Juan first set hearts aflutter in Tirso de Molina's 1630's play El burlador de Sevilla y convidado de piedra, Mongolian warlord and disreputable dictator, Genghis Khan, was lending an unsettling gravitas to the term 'lady-killer'. Though he is remembered today for conquering a people and founding an empire, his sexual conquests were no less devastating. The tyrant's fondness for a fertile female has led Russian scientists to predict he has 16 million male descendants living today: the most loathsome of lotharios.
Exploits: all of Mongolia
Giacomo Casanova (1725 – 1798)
Venetian adventurer and author, Giacomo Casanova, has long sparred with Don Juan (in Italian, Don Giovanni) for the name most synonymous with the art of seduction. Perhaps he was inspired by the exploits of his fictional progenitor, for he was apparently present at the first performance of Mozart's opera Don Giovanni in 1787. Regardless, Casanova proved many times over to be an adept, unscrupulous lover, who believed he was born for the opposite sex. His first sexual liaison was with two sisters, Nanetta and Maria Savorgnan, a precocious introduction to carnal pleasures and a taste of things to come.
Exploits: 120 with women and girls mentioned in his memoirs, as well as many veiled references to male lovers.
Pablo Picasso (1881 – 1973)
Fernande, Eva, Olga, Marie-Therese, Dora, Francoise, Jacqueline: these are the names of the important woman in the life of seminal Spanish artist, Pablo Picasso. Though each of these women played a crucial role in the painter's life and art, each was replaced by another, with all but one suffering some sort of mental breakdown in his wake. Post-Picasso, Fernande Olivier lived in sorrow until her death; Olga Koklova became his fitful stalker; Marie-Therese Walter hanged herself; Dora Maar became a recluse; Jacqueline Roque shot herself when he died; only Francoise Gilot, who began her affair with the sixty-something Picasso when she was 23, avoided an unhappy fate.
Exploits: quite a lot; often fatal
John F. Kennedy (1917 -1963)
A beautiful wife (Jackie Onassis) and a sex-bomb mistress (Marilyn Monroe) were not woman enough for former US president, John F. Kennedy. The glamorous head of state once confided that if he went too long without a woman he'd suffer a clamorous headache; a fate he took pains to avoid. Linked to a string of high-profile women, including actresses Jayne Mansfield, Angie Dickinson, Kim Novak, Janet Leigh and Rhonda Fleming, he is suspected to have had several more encounters with women relatively unknown. Thanks to his dashing good looks and sexual precocity, coquettish young women would apparently more or less queue up at the door to the White House asking for Mr President.
Exploits: more than Clinton
Ian Fleming (1908 – 1964)
It should come as no surprise that the creator of James Bond, the fictional spy who spends as much of his time gathering beautiful women as he does intelligence for the secret service, was himself a jet-setting womanizer with a predatory disposition. Evidently irresistible to women, Fleming could seduce them in four languages, and went about doing so with Bond's aplomb. His friend Mary Pakenham once said: 'No one I have ever known had sex so much on the brain as Ian.' Yet, though he loved women, he evidently didn't like them much, once telling a friend women were like pets or dogs; men were the only real human beings, the only ones he could be friends with.
Exploits: various, sometimes involving whips.
Hugh Hefner (1925 – present)
For Hugh Hefner, womanizing is not so much a hobby as a career and a way of life. The Octogenarian founder of soft-porn magazine, Playboy, surrounds himself with as many scantily clad 'Playmates' as he can, promoting his lifestyle to his magazine readers, while blithely eschewing a more politically correct attitude towards women. Some say Hefner developed his errant ways after discovering his first wife had had an affair while he was away in the Army in the 1950s. One profile of the bon vivant claims his wife had allowed him to sleep with other women as recompense for her infidelity, in the hope it would save their marriage. Mistake: they divorced in 1959 – though her loss was the porn industry's gain.
Exploits: up to seven at a time, including Donna, Marilyn, Lillian, Shannon, Brande, Barbi, Karen, Sondra, Carrie, Izabella, Tina, Holly, Bridget and Kendra, to name a few.
Wilt Chamberlain (1936 -1999)
Wilt Chamberlain, the late American professional NBA basketball player, is as famous for playing the ladies game as he is for the ball game. His claim to sexual fame was that he had bedded some 20,000 women during his lifetime, which, if true, would mean he had slam dunked an average of 1.14 women a day. Though the claim brought him derision, being oh-so-unlikely, he was nevertheless a bona fide tomcat and interminable pick-up artist. Like Hefner, his extreme sex drive is thought by some to be down to overcompensating for female rejection during his teenage years.
Exploits: 20,000 women if you can believe it.
Jack Nicholson (1937 – present)
Jack Nicholson, he of the pointy eyebrows and the rictus grin, is a lady-magnet whose magnetism no lady can resist. The Oscar winning actor is famous for his lascivious pursuit of leading ladies, allegedly bedding 2,000 women and spawning six children to five mothers. His longest relationship was with Angelica Huston, which lasted for 16 years, ending when the media reported that Rebecca Broussard had become pregnant with his child. His louche behavior has continued into his dotage – though at 71 he admitted 'it's not so nice when you are 71 and looking for some action'. Still, the old roué's reputation is assured, and he once featured in Maxim magazine's Top Ten Living Legends of Sex list.
Exploits: actresses and models mainly, including Michelle Phillips, Bebe Buell, Lara Flynn Boyle, Angelica Huston, Lorraine Nicholson, Susan Anspach, Amanda de Cadenet and Amber Smith.
Warren Beatty (1937 – present)
Warren Beatty beats even Jack for the mantel of Hollywood's most notorious womanizer. Now in his seventies, and happily married to actress, Annette Bening, in his relative youth the Oscar winning actor and director was unrivalled in his lady-winning ways. At the outset of his career he allegedly dated Natalie Wood while making Splendor in the Grass, abandoning her in a restaurant after making a successful pass at a waitress. He went on to date, and bed, and kiss and grope so many women that Woody Allen once joked that if he believed in reincarnation he would come back as Beatty's fingertips. In 2009 a biographer claimed that Beatty had slept with around 12,775 women, though Beatty disputes the figure. It is widely rumored Beatty is the subject of Carly Simon's hit song You're So Vain, though she has never confirmed this.
Exploits: too many mention, but, for starters: Julie Christie, Jacqueline Kennedy, Joni Mitchell, Bianca Jagger, Diana Ross, Diane Keaton, Maria Callas, Faye Dunaway, Princess Margaret, Linda McCartney, Vivien Leigh, Vanessa Redgrave, Brigitte Bardot and Cher.


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There are some rather wicked whispers around today about the future of of one Fernando Torres. The Chelsea striker has been the subject of much speculation recently with Barcelona allegedly lining up a £17 million bid.
Now however the SportsDirect News site is claiming that Barca have a rival for Torres – Arsenal.
The site says
Emirates boss Arsene Wenger is a huge admirer of the 29-year-old, and believes he could help him recapture the form that made him one of the most feared strikers in the world at Liverpool.
Couple that with the fact that none of Arsenal's supposed targets seem to be too interested in the club means that the site has its story.
It also claims to have heard from a Gunners source : "The boss loves Torres. He knows how good he can be, and a deal could come off.
"Chelsea are looking at strikers, Fernando has become surplus to requirements and Arsene is ready to pounce."
Well the Rooney story is bonkers enough, but Torres. He is still young enough at 29 to have a few good seasons left in him, he also scored 22 goals last season, not a bad tally.
But I think it unlikely that even if Arsenal were interested that Chelsea would sell him to their rival London club. Barca are one thing. The near-ish neighbours are another.
Ultimately though buying Torres would be a huge personal gamble for Arsene Wenger. Were it not to work out I think he would end up personally taking the blame for a transfer which while it clearly could be a sensational signing still represents one hell of a risk.
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BANGKOK (AP) — Asian stocks tumbled Thursday as hopes began to fade for a quick agreement among U.S. leaders to avoid a "fiscal cliff" that could derail the world's biggest economy.
Unless President Barack Obama and Congress reach a compromise, a series of expiring tax cuts and across-the-board spending reductions will take effect in 2013 — at a cost of about $800 billion. Economists say that could knock the U.S. economy back into recession.
Hong Kong's Hang Seng fell 1.1 percent to 21,216.40. South Korea's Kospi shed 1.6 percent to 1,863.16. Australia's S&P/ASX 200 fell 1.1 percent to 4,341.60. Benchmarks in Singapore, Taiwan and mainland China also fell.
Analysts at Credit Agricole CIB said in a market commentary that a "cautious tone" is likely to permeate trading, given the uncertainty over the situation in the U.S. Obama is expected to meet the top leaders of both political parties at the White House on Friday for discussions.
Meanwhile, a weakening yen helped keep Japanese stocks buoyant. The Nikkei 225 index rose 0.8 percent to 8,733.86.
Investors remain unnerved after demonstrations Wednesday in Europe by workers who are protesting the austerity measures that governments have been imposing to reduce public debt.
On top of that, official figures showed industrial output among the 17 countries that use the euro dropped 2.5 percent on the month in September, worse than analysts had expected. Figures on Thursday are expected to confirm that the eurozone is in recession.
Stocks on Wall Street fell sharply Wednesday as hope diminished for a compromise on the tax and spending cuts due to take effect in 2013. The Dow closed down 1.5 percent, at 12,570.95. The Standard & Poor's 500 index fell 1.4 percent to 1,355.49. The Nasdaq composite index lost 1.3 percent to 2,846.81.
Benchmark oil for December delivery was down 3 cents to $86.29 in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract rose 94 cents to close at $86.32 a barrel on the Nymex on Wednesday.
In currencies, the euro fell to $1.2734 from $1.2745 late Wednesday in New York. The dollar rose slightly to 80.21 yen from 80.17 yen.


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I spent last Thursday in Bloomington to host a webinar with Traditional Arts Indiana. I had a few minutes to spare before the webinar started so my daughter, Hannah, and I stopped to chat with Sally Harless at Anatomy Vintage and Handmade.
Shop is located on what appears to be an alley a block south of Kirkwood Avenue near the I.U. campus. The most striking part of the shop is its size — it's tiny! This unique little building began life as a residential garage. Sometime later some shed additions were added to the south side of the building as well as a two story storefront addition. It really is a unique and interesting space.
Though small and filled with merchandise, it's not tight or cluttered. When shared the space with 2-3 shoppers as well as Sally and had no problem navigating. There are interesting things to look at (and to purchase) at every level iincluding a shelf of my flatties — full size 2-dimensional versions of my carvings.
I must confess that I didn't look at much — the selection had a decidedly female appeal — but my youngest duaghter, Phoebe, would love to explore!
Don't miss this tiny hidden gem while roaming the Kirkwood shops.
Email: amber.anatomy(at!)gmail.com
Phone: (317) 606 – ERAS
visit my storefront at 116 S Grant St., Bloomington, IN
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I'm trying to set up an alix 2d13 box as a wireless home router with openbsd to replace an off the shelf linksys box. I've been stuck for nearly a week trying to figure out why it won't do nat properly. I'm trying to nat all traffic coming through a (second) wireless interface (urtwn0) into a local bridge. urtwn0 can connect to the internet fine through a blackberry wifi hotspot, but the internal network cannot see the internet, nor the blackberry ip address (though it can ping the urtwn0 address fine).
The current set up is as follows (I'll paste ifconfig and other details to pastebin if anyone wants them):
##### CONF FILES ON ALIX BOARD ##### /etc/hostname.vether0 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.255 up /etc/hostname.bridge0 add vether0 add vr1 add vr2 add ath0 up /etc/hostname.vr1 up /etc/hostname.vr2 up /etc/hostname.ath0 mediaopt hostap nwid alix wpakey xxxxxxxxxx up /etc/sysctl.conf net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
# note - I'm never entirely sure what to put for a domain name when I don't have one and am behind an adsl or other link option domain-name "example.net"; # note - I'm not even bothering with dns yet, so these don't really count, but are set to the values the blackberry gives urtwn0 in resolv.conf option domain-name-servers 10.0.0.2, 10.0.0.3; subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 192.168.1.1; range 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.100; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; }
# note - I've tried many different variations and sugggestions. I don't think it's a pf problem, but I may be wrong.
set skip on lo ext_if = "urtwn0" int_if = "vether0" localnet = $int_if:network match out on $ext_if from $int_if nat-to ($ext_if) block all pass from { lo0, $localnet } #############################
# From my laptop:
# From the alix board
Things I've tried:
##### DIAGNOSTICS #### on alix board:
# route -n show -inet Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Mtu Prio Iface default 10.0.0.1 UGS 0 0 - 12 urtwn0 10.0.0/24 link#7 UC 3 0 - 4 urtwn0 10.0.0.1 48:9d:24:6b:41:4a UHLc 1 225 - 4 urtwn0 10.0.0.2 48:9d:24:6b:41:4a UHLc 0 11 - 4 urtwn0 10.0.0.3 48:9d:24:6b:41:4a UHLc 0 12 - 4 urtwn0 10.0.0.100 127.0.0.1 UGS 0 1 33192 8 lo0 127/8 127.0.0.1 UGRS 0 0 33192 8 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 1 33192 4 lo0 192.168/16 link#8 UC 3 0 - 4 vether0 192.168.1.7 00:1b:77:41:8e:75 UHLc 1 162 - 4 vether0 192.168.1.9 48:9d:24:6b:41:4a UHLc 1 1 - 4 vether0 192.168.1.115 b8:27:eb:20:77:53 UHLc 0 142 - 4 vether0 224/4 127.0.0.1 URS 0 0 33192 8 lo0
# route -n show -inet Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Mtu Prio Iface default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 250 - 12 wpi0 127/8 127.0.0.1 UGRS 0 0 33192 8 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 0 33192 4 lo0 192.168.1/24 link#2 UC 1 0 - 4 wpi0 192.168.1.1 fe:e1:ba:d0:47:57 UHLc 2 82 - 4 wpi0 192.168.1.7 127.0.0.1 UGS 0 0 33192 8 lo0 224/4 127.0.0.1 URS 0 0 33192 8 lo0 # ping 10.0.0.1 PING 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1): 56 data bytes --- 10.0.0.1 ping statistics --- 69 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
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My suggestion is to get rid of the bridge and just deal with 3 different networks
For example subnet the 10.0.0.0/8 network into 10.10.22.0/24 for the wired lan clients and 10.10.99/24 for the wireless ones.
Re: NAT
If you are changing or renumbering the internal network clients (wired and wireless) you can use the following match rule to perform foolproof Network Address Translation:
# ---- external/egress interface match out inet from ! egress to any nat-to (egress)
Likewise you could assign the urtwn0 interface to the group wireless and the other NIC to group wired.
A sample /etc/hostname/urtwn0
inet 10.10.99.1 255.255.255.0 NONE group wired
In the beginning it is easier to filter just on the external interface. You can either use skip on .. or pass quick on .. Get things working first.
Later on, when everything is working, you always add filtering on the internal interfaces.
You don't need to be a genius to debug a pf.conf firewall ruleset, you just need the guts to run tcpdump
Hello, and welcome to daemonforums, ritter_k.
This is the third or fourth time I've seen people attempting to bridge(4) with a vether(4) pseudo device, and reporting problems with them on this forum. I don't know the source "howto" you or they have been using, but as with J65nko, I recommend avoiding this because it is a needless complication. The vether(4) driver was developed to address a highly specific need: to operate a Border Gateway Protocol peer from a residence in Canada. If you're not doing this, you should be able to function without vether(4).
I happen to operate a pair of Alix 2d13 platforms with OpenBSD. I have no bridge defined. My wired NAT rule looks like this -- the parentheses are used because the IP address is dynamic:
match out on $external_nic from !(external_nic) nat-to (external_nic)
match out on $tether_nic from !($tether_nic) nat_to ($tether_nic)
The urtwn(4) device is not normally installed and used in an Alix; the NAT rule and urtwn firmware are in place only in the event it is needed to circumvent an ISP outage. It is normally used with another platform.
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Wow, that's quite a specific origin for vether! I can't remember the exact source - I've read so much over the last week - but I think the initial suggestion to create a bridge came from irc. The motive was that I wanted to only have one ip address that spanned all interfaces, for ease of administration (and to emulate the off the shelf linksys router). Ifconfig allows you to assign the same ip to all interfaces, but only seems to use the first assigned, so I tried creating a trunk (I know, I know, I'm a complete beginner with networks and was clutching at straws). That didn't work, hence the bridge, which did exactly what I wanted - i.e. all devices talk to one one host ip and are connected to each other through it.
I'm glad to see you've got yours all working through the urtwn link to a mobile phone - at least now I know it can be done. It's always disheartening when you're banging your head against a brick wall to do something you're not even sure is possible
Thanks for the warm welcome and quick assistance. I will try both your suggestions
woohoo, I can finally ping the outside world from my laptop! I've disabled everything except the ath0 and urtwn0 and changed the pf nat rule to the suggested
match out on $tether_nic from !($tether_nic) nat_to ($tether_nic)
Now, with a working base, I can feel much more confident that I can work my way up to what I want from here.
With regards to the single ip address for all interfaces, what would be the best way to achieve this? Before I even learned of bridges and trunks, I was going to implement it in pf, but it seems like it should be lower level than that.
Also, jggimi, when you switch to urtwn, do you manually change the dns servers in dhcpd.conf? Doesn't matter too much at the minute as I'm planning to implement a dns caching server and learning all about dns once I've got my main setup correct
Thanks very much for all your help.
A bridge(4) iinterconnects different hardware media so that the attached segments can behave as if they were a single network segment. There are valid reasons to bridge multiple segments, and if you lack a switch you may have a valid reason to bridge your NICs.
My Alix boxes are connected to switches; so I have no need or desire to bridge.
As you have noted, only a single NIC's IP address is utilized when you bridge(4). As each NIC is on a separate network, all three will have unique MAC addresses. This is somewhat different from the Linksys box you replaced, which only had a single MAC address for the unshielded twisted pair segment. The Linksys platform contained an integrated switch.
OK, so as I understand it, the bridge does what I want (I really would prefer a single ip for administrative tasks, though there's probably other ways of doing it). The problem with a bridge is that it needs an ip, and for that, you need vether. At least, that's what I got from the faqs, which is why I went down that path to begin with:
(can't post urls - but search for vether in faq6)
...and here was me thinking the faqs were gospel...
The problem with my current set up (treating wireless and wired as separate subnets) is that while all devices connected to the ath0 interface can talk to each other and to the internet, they can't see the ethernet interfaces or anything connected to them.
More work to do...
Thanks again for your help
Thank you for pointing me to the FAQ. It states, "...but we cannot use a physical interface as the link might be down, in which case the address would not be reachable." When I used bridges, this was never an issue; I just assigned an IP address to one of the NICs. This was also long before the availability of vether(4). And also, the individual segments were never expected to be down.
My pair of Alix 2d13s are configured without bridge(4), though I do have a bridge -- for WiFi.
Last edited by jggimi; 17th November 2013 at 08:03 PM. Reason: clarity for ifstated
You asked,
Thanks for posting that, I enjoy seeing others setups. You have any general recommendations for good brands of switch (second hand is fine) for a home environment like this? As for the modem, i've bought a draytek vigor 120 adsl modem (the only true ethernet modem I could fine) to connect my alix box up to the internet, but unfortunately with where I live I'll never have the connection speed required to do fun things like serving up images - my upload speed is appauling.
Anyway, the good news folks is that I've reimplemented the bridge and the vether device, and it now all works exactly as I'd hoped. For anyone from the future stumbling upon this post, the magic was in modifying the pf.conf, which is now:
set skip on lo ext_if = "urtwn0" match out on $ext_if from !($ext_if) nat-to ($ext_if) pass all
Now, I'm chuffed to bits as I can get back to reading the Book of PF and learning how to secure this thing.
Thanks so much for all your help
No specific recommendations on small unmanaged switches -- I'm using two different brands as they were what was available to me when I set the infrastructure up.
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|Product Type
|Payload Temperature Range
|Temperature Range
|16 L / 976 ci
|Duration Category
|Extended Use (4+ days)
|168.00 hours
|Tare Weight
|37 lb
|Payload Size Imperial
|10 × 10 × 10 in
|Payload Size Metric
|254 × 254 × 254 mm
|Outer Dimension
|16.125 × 16.125 × 16.375 in
|Outer Dimension Metric
|464 × 432 × 445 mm
|Product Sub-Family
|Crēdo Cube™
|Tare Weight Metric
|17 kg