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167Man On The Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars
Although many believe man first reached the moon in July, 1969, we have information from a very reliable source, the Sanskrit Vedic scriptures, that the astronauts never actually went to the moon. The manned moon landing was a colossal hoax.
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, the spiritual master of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, once described materialistic civilization as "a society of the-cheaters and the cheated." Looking at our modern world, we can easily see why: massive advertising campaigns for cigarettes and liquor that promise pleasure but deliver disease; widespread gambling rackets of all kinds, some government-sponsored, that bilk the public of billions each year; high level corruption of many leaders in industry and government that reveals a nearly total disregard for the public's welfare. From all this, and, much more, the only conclusion to draw is that the vast majority of people, out of ignorance of a meaningful goal of life, actually desire to be cheated-actually feel the need for the false promises and outright lies of the hucksters to provide some hope of happiness from day to day. Thus a few clever, aggressive professionals take advantage of the ignorant masses and engage in large-scale cheating for their own selfish interests.
While cheating goes on in all fields of endeavor, one of the most outstanding is modern science. Scientists can make useful contributions to material life, but they become cheaters when they claim that science is (or someday will be) independent of the laws of nature. Theories such as "Life originates from matter and can be created in the laboratory," or "Since there is no supreme intelligence directing the universe, we [the scientists] are the only ones who can explain existence," are all bluffs perpetrated without a shred of scientific proof. Their only purpose is to advance the prestige of the scientists and net them billion-dollar government grants for endless research. Recent efforts to travel to the moon provide a prime example of this kind of lucrative mass "brainwashing," which is still succeeding with a large portion of the gullible public. (*Twenty-eight percent of all Americans, according to a Gallup poll cited in the Los Angeles Times on October 13, 1976, have seen through the sham and now believe the moon landing to be a fake). Despite the tremendous volume of propaganda proclaiming the "conquest of outer space," we have information from a very reliable source, the Sanskrit Vedic scriptures, that the so-called "astronauts" never actually went to the moon. Although most people hold it as an article of absolute faith that man first reached the moon in July, 1969, the manned moon landing is actually a colossal hoax.
We realize that this is very difficult for you to accept, since it directly contradicts your established beliefs. But since you yourself have not actually gone to the moon, you owe it to yourself to consider why you are so confident that the astronauts actually have gone there. Why do you accept the popular version of the manned moon landing? Because you believe the authority of the scientists, the journalists, and the politicians who propagate that version. When we cite the Vedic scriptures, which state that the "astronauts" could not have gone to the moon, we are simply favoring another authority.
In both cases, it is a matter of accepting an authority and believing what it says.
Now, why do we believe the Vedic scriptures rather than the material scientists? Because the Vedic scriptures differ from the conclusions of material science in that they are not based on imperfect sensory investigation, but are apaurusa i.e., they emanate from God, who is beyond the material world. In other words, Vedic evidence stands above the defects of conditioned souls within the material world. Thus, when it comes to real scientific knowledge, the standard of Vedic authority is perfect because it originates directly from the all-perfect, omniscient Personality of Godhead.
The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the "astronauts" have traveled to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles–in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? This would require an average speed of more than one million miles per hour for the spacecraft, a patently impossible feat by even the space scientists' calculations.
Another important reason why the manned moon landing must be a hoax is that, according to the Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one planet to another without becoming properly qualified. This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for instance, he has to give up his present gross material body and acquire another one suitable for life on that particular planet. Vedic knowledge teaches that the living being doesn't die with the death of the body, but that he is an eternal spirit soul. As Lord Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita, "As the embodied soul continually passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death" (Bhagavad-gita, 2.13). At the time of death the human being transfers to another material body according to the desires he cultivated and the work he performed during his lifetime. Therefore, since the moon has a particular standard of life and atmosphere, if one wants to travel there he has to adapt his material body to the conditions of that planet.
Even on the earth planet these restrictions hold true. For example, a human being cannot possibly live in the water nor can a fish live on land. These are the rigid conditions of life, and any attempt to defy them is artificial and will fail. Similarly, just as you have to change your dress if you want to go from India to Europe, where the climatic conditions are different, so you also have to change your physical "dress" if you want to go to the specialized atmosphere of the moon. In other words, if you want to go to the moon or the sun or any other higher planet, you can keep your finer dress of mind, intelligence, and ego, but you have to leave behind your gross dress (your physical body) made of earth, water, fire, and other material elements, and acquire a body suitable for your destination.
Of course, none of this will help you solve the real problem of life–entrapment in the vicious cycle of birth and death. As Krsna states in the Bhagavad-gita, even if one transfers in his next life to a very elevated position in the highest planet in the universe, Brahmaloka, he will still have to experience birth and death. The goal of human life is to free the soul from its continuous transmigration among different species of life on various planets, and to transfer to the spiritual planets, where life is eternal. To reach these planets, a complete change of both gross and subtle bodies is necessary, for one can reach the spiritual sky only in a spiritual form. We will elaborate on this a little later, but our point here is that you cannot simply force yourself onto another planet without the proper qualification.
Just as in the United States there are laws controlling the entry of foreigners through the issuance of visas, so in the universe there are also laws controlling the movement of all living beings–even astronauts and scientists–and unless one's karma is such that he deserves to take birth on the moon or the sun or the earth or wherever, he cannot defy the laws of nature and go there by force. The scientists are always claiming they are independent of nature's law, but even they have to submit to death and rebirth; they cannot check them. Similarly, they cannot go to the moon planet, which the Vedas describe not as a lifeless desert but as a heavenly planet of extraordinary material pleasures. Where the astronauts actually went, or how this fabrication of lunar visitation will one day be exposed to people in general, are not part of our present discussion. But the Vedic teachings warn us that the manned moon landing is certainly an empty bluff.
When we contradict the revered scientists like this and warn people that, through the use of brainwashing propaganda, they are being cheated out of billions of hard-earned tax dollars–we ourselves are accused of brainwashing. But which is better: a sober warning or a colossal multi-billion-dollar hoax?
Furthermore, even if, for argument's sake, we accept, that the "astronauts" did go to the moon, our main contention still holds: the moon excursion is a hoax, a mass brainwashing job.
Why? Because it has no value. Even the scientists now admit its uselessness, and their interest in going to the moon has subsided. After many years of concentrated effort and billions of dollars of public money spent, the scientists have concluded that the moon is uninhabitable and have stopped trying to go there. But the public is encouraged to regard this failure as a wonderful achievement! "Just see! They have come back with some moon dust!" Long ago the Vedic literatures said the moon was uninhabitable by man, before going there the scientists themselves predicted they could not live in that atmosphere, and upon reaching the moon they discovered the same thing–that they could not live there. So what is the value of this kind of billion-dollar excursion, which has produced only a few rocks?
The scientists' stubbornness is like that of a boy who is repeatedly warned by his father not to stick his finger in the revolving blades of a fan, but who goes ahead and does it anyway, and is hurt. The scientists insisted that a lunar landing would prove the United States to be the most advanced nation. Never mind that it cost billions, which could have been spent on worthwhile projects, such as feeding the starving. The brainwashing was so extreme that at one point Pan American Airlines was even selling tickets to the moon, and there was talk of colonizing it, although everyone acknowledged that it is impossible to live there. And yet if we speak out strongly against this nonsense, people say we are brainwashed–for not believing in the bluff of the moon excursion. Now, having squeezed as much prestige as possible out of their great "success" in reaching the moon, the scientists have become disappointed and set their sights on Mars and the huge expenditure of public funds goes on.
Again, we do not say that man should neglect science, but rather that he should practice science according to the authorized knowledge of the laws of nature. The scientists should not attempt to defy the laws of nature, or those of God, but should work humbly in harmony with the real purpose of human life–liberation from the cycle of birth and death. Despite all scientific theorizing, research, and technology, the scientists do not even know the nature of the life within the body, how life enters the body, and where life goes after death. Not being able to produce even the smallest living creature, and being unable to stop death, the modern scientists should not consider themselves the all-in-all.
If we desire to praise someone for scientific achievements, let us praise the Great Brain who is actually controlling all living beings by directing His material energy, and who regulates the immense machinery of the universe. Let us follow Lord Brahma, who sings in the Vedic scripture Brahma-samhita (5.52): "I worship Govinda [Krishna], the primeval Lord, by whose order the sun assumes immense power and heat and traverses its orbit." The sun is a creation of God; it is not a creation of the scientists. So also are the oceans and the great mountains, the resources of nature, and outer space–all are works of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As for machine-making, the material energy of Krishna, the Supreme Energetic, has expertly fashioned male and female forms that go on reproducing themselves without further assistance from Him. And this happens over and over in millions of species. Can the scientists create such replicating machines? Can they create a sun and keep it floating perpetually in space? Can they create the oceans, the brain of a great scientist like Einstein, or even an ant or an amoeba? No. All these scientific achievements are the works of God. And when God Himself speaks throughauthorized scriptures like the Bhagavad-gita, He explicitly says, "Do not waste your time trying to go to the Moon; that is not your place." If the godless human scientists defy this Supreme Scientist and Supreme Controller, then disaster will befall them and whoever follows them. Therefore we are protesting a godless science that defies God's laws.
In Easy Journey to Other Planets,
written back in 1959, His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada warned us that attempting to reach the moon by materialistic methods is a waste of time. In a speech ten years later he further explained:
If we go to live on the moon–assuming that it is possible even with an oxygen mask, how long could we stay? Furthermore, even if we had the opportunity to stay there, what would we gain? We might gain a little longer life perhaps, but we could not live there forever. That is impossible. And what would we gain by a longer life? …Near San Francisco I have seen a forest where there is a tree 7,000 years old. But what is the benefit? If one is proud of standing in one place for 7,000 years, that is not a very great credit.
Of course, scientists, journalists, and politicians are not known for considering things in the philosophical light of transcendental knowledge, but a sober fact to consider is this: if, even after all the scientists' achievements, we must still die and suffer the miseries of repeated birth and death, then what is the benefit of that science? Krsna tells us not to waste our valuable time with things that are only temporary and do not lead to liberation from birth and death. "Don't waste your time going from this planet to that planet," He says in the Bhagavad-gita. "Your material miseries will only follow you." So the moon excursion is a hoax in yet another, all-important sense: the scientists are leading people to believe they will be happy if they go to the moon, but when considered in the context of the eternal soul's welfare, going to the moon and living there for many, many years still won't solve the problems of life. It is a hoax to claim that the endeavor to travel to other planets will bring happiness. A person can be happy only if he receives information from authorized scriptures about the nature of the soul and the method of liberating the soul from his suffering condition. This liberation is the goal of Krishna consciousness.
And yet, when we warn people not to waste their lives in temporary achievements, when we warn them not to engage in sinful activities that will force them to transmigrate to lower planets and lower forms of life–they accuse us of being duped and spreading false propaganda. But we will not be quieted by their accusations. As devotees of Krishna, we must go on repeating His instructions for everyone's benefit. As Krishna tells us in His incarnation as Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, "Instruct everyone to follow the teachings of Lord Sri Krsna as they are given in the Bhagavad-gita and the Srimad-Bhagavatam. In this way become a spiritual master and try to liberate everyone in the world
So you have to decide who is actually cheating: the materialist, who promises happiness in the context of temporary advancement and enjoyment, and who thereby ignores the eternal soul, or the spiritualist, the Krishna conscious person, who says, "Always think of Krishna and become His devotee. Worship Him and bow down before Him. If you practice in this way, at the end of life you will certainly return to the supreme spiritual planet, which is eternal and free from all miseries, because of your full absorption in and devotion to the Lord."
167 Responses to Man On The Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars
This is incredible information! I started questioning the globe Earth model several years ago, and finally gave it up altogether about five years ago. I don't know how I ever fell for it in the first place. Now that I've been looking more closely at the moon landings, the ISS, satellites, and other space-related things, it all looks incredibly fake.
I've heard this before that the moon flights were staged. This article was very interesting.
Why are there still so much ignorance on this matter when there has already been 6 moon landings by NASA where the moon landing stations are observable from earth by using ordinary telescopes?
Oh Boy. What planet you on? Jupiter by the look of it with a comment like that. Get it into that thick skull of yours that those Moon landings were 100% fake, and have been proven to be fake for over 25 years now.
The moon is only 400000 kilometers from earth. Not 94 million miles. If the moon was 94 million miles away it would be far larger than earth. It isn't it's far smaller. Also if the moon was further away than the sun then how is a total eclipse of the sun possible? (total eclipse: when the moon blocks the view of the sun from earth)
I don't believe that the moon landings actually happened. I believe in the truth. Your article is predominantly made up nonsense
Wouldn't it be easier simply to ask God (or Krishna, whatever floats your boat) to reveal all this information to you himself and for you to write it down and present it here? It's about time someone got some up to date revelation. I know you will say it has already been revealed but you would have to give me fresh info.
Fresh information is that it is 2021 and they still can't go to the Moon. So how could they go in 1969?
man on the moon is a hoax? i pray every day that kalki will come tomorrow to wipe this planet clean of these fools that have made a mockery of sanatana dharma.
BUT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEVER SEND ANY SATELLITE IN MOON OR MARS. IT MEANS, MAN NEVER GONE IN MOON BUT SATELLITE HAD LANDED IN MOON. CAUSE MOON'S ABNORMAL TEMPERATURE ( -234 Deg. IN NIGHT ), DEADLY VAN-ALLEN RADIATION BELT & COSMIC-RAY ONLY EFFECT LIVING CREATURE NOT THE SATELLITE. -
The CIA forced NASA to fake the Moon landings for the US Government.
It's all here at the bottom of this webpage:-
apollotruth.atspace.co.uk -
Lunar phases.
If the Moon-Earth distance was the same as the Moon Sun distance, then when it's halfway between being on the same side as the Sun and the opposite side of the sun, 3/4 of it would appear lit.Also, the many space agencies would have noticed this.
Are you saying their all in a conspiracy.
Nasa aren't the only ones to have sent probes far out into the solar system. -
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[…] Moon landing a hoax Although many believe man first reached the moon in July, 1969, we have information from a very reliable source, the Sanskrit Vedic scriptures, that the astronauts never actually went to the moon. The manned moon landing was a colossal hoax. Now, why do we believe the Vedic scriptures rather than the material scientists? Because the Vedic scriptures differ from the conclusions of material science in that they are not based on imperfect sensory investigation, but are apaurusa i.e., they emanate from God, who is beyond the material world. In other words, Vedic evidence stands above the defects of conditioned souls within the material world. Thus, when it comes to real scientific knowledge, the standard of Vedic authority is perfect because it originates directly from the all-perfect, omniscient Personality of Godhead. The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the "astronauts" have traveled to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles–in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? This would require an average speed of more than one million miles per hour for the spacecraft, a patently impossible feat by even the space scientists' calculations.Man On The Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars | Hare Krishna Community […]
you have no physical evidence therefore you're Hypothesis is only than and will be disregarded. as far as science is concerned spirituality and scripture only matters in anthropology not astronomy or physics in general. you will never be taken seriously and you will be ignored. id say quit while you're ahead… but clearly you should just quit… you never were or will be ahead
Neil Armstrong passed away, a man of honor and a great American hero
as the first man to walk on the moon. -
America presently the most powerfull nation in the world though Gtreat China is surely going to over take USA in near future.even if china goes upper hand than usa- one thing is the fact that overall well being of avarage amricans is comparatively much better than avarage chinese.same situation was there during COLD WAR between USA and USSR. to be superior than USSR, USA completely cheated the whole world by staging the FAKE MOON landing. it never happened.not only that usa cleverly played in such away that they broke down USSR in to several part.so it was all long term planned operation of USA – 1) fake moon landing to humiliate USSR.2) help terrorists to break agreat nation USSR ( still uSA dioing this for other countries just to sell war weapons)3) in olympics to be in top in medal list ( if not possible at your own capasity, then supress other – still if u count the medal tally of all countries that evolved from former USSR , in total they are above the USA. one day there will be fall of USA also- its inevitable – its a cycle.
No, Shubhrojjwal Saha, we did better than that. We accomplished a real moon landing.You will just have to get used to it.
@ John
Answers to ALL the questions that you pro Apollo believers keep spouting all the time can be found at the bottom of the webpage:-
marked below APOLLO Q & A
The Moon landings were clearly faked, so make sure the information contained on that website, penetrates that thick skull of yours. I dunno what stuff you are smoking to give you such delusional thoughts that men from Earth walked on the surface of the Moon. If you are not smoking any illegal substance, then I suggest you need pyschiatric help ASAP.
Srila Prabhupada said it was impossible by Vedic calculations. But they could have landed on another planetary body. It could have been rahu/ketu, considered lifeless bodies. the moon (candra mandala) is far too complex to appear as a plain & barren rock.
Anyway even if they went to the moon, what's the use? You still gotta solve the problems of birth, old age, disease & death. Instead of debating moon landing real or fake, think about solving the clear & present problems of humanity.
If the moon was 94 million miles from the earth then it has to be around 1.1-1.4 million km in diameter, that's utterly absurd since the moon is made up of rock with a fairly large density; it will be the size of the sun, just impossible. Though I agree that there is something fishy about the Apollo missions.
ok all believing the moon is larger and distant than the sun how do u prove eclipses ? the sun switches itself of ? huh! i know u want us to think in another perspective but give us a reason to do so instead of just shooting in the dark!
i have been deeply influenced by all the science we study in school colege universities.it has only 3 months since i have started reading bhagwad gita and i never challange the authority of vedas. reading above comments i came to know that model of universe we study is purely wrong as compared to veads. obviously i was so shocked and amazed that i would ever read such a thing in my life. but i never challange vedas and simply accept they are.
i always wanted to become a scientist and wanted to explore lord through science but never got interested in all applied science departments but i know that real science is pure and basic research that is based on discoveries and not on inventions. the thing that i ask is can madhudivasan my lord can you please tell me how many more basic theories like universe view are wrong and i might be still finding them right.can you please tell me some branch of physics which has no controversy with vedas so i can do research in that. thought about becoming astrophysist but now i wont as universe we study is wrong and so how can i find lord by that.
are thoughts about electrons,protons,etc similar in vedas and today science also? is quantam mechanics the field where views of vedas and science become similar. or if not then please tell me some branch of physics which is similar. if there is no such field in physics then shall i try to become mathematician or is todays maths also wrong as compared to vedas.
please please tell if there is some branch of mathematics or physics which is absolutely similar to vedas. i am in great shock my master please help me.
All of, Nasa (USA), RFSA (Russia), CNSA (China), ESA (Europe), ISRO (India), ISAS (Japan) have sent probes to the Moon. You think they're all in the conspiracy.
In you're model, the moon would regularly get very near the sun.
Why doesn't it's surface heat up or get many many times brighter.
It would need a speed of to stay in orbit 11,000km's speed.
With earths gravity an object would have an orbital speed of 50m/s at 1AU
To counteract centrifugal force gravity would have to be over 80g's at the sun's orbit. -
Well done Madhudvisa dasa ,I read all 106 comments only because you kept the interest going.Reply to this and you will get the 108 spot ,you deserve it and much more.Hare Krishna.
All the objectors have to do is chant Hare Krishna if you want the real understanding of life .This will start the process of helping you to see that the Lord Sri Krishna is the absolute truth .
Krishna is perfect ,where as ,you have imperfect senses and with these senses you speculate and form a bogus notion much like the frog in the story of the frog in the well mentioned by Madhudvisa dasa .So like she says chant Hare Krishna and be happy. -
moon was a hoax,not only because of the Vedas,but modern science confirms it too,check the radiation levels
No it doesn't.
The astronauts have significant radiation shielding.
Plus, the radiation belts are donut shaped, the trajectories were set so the worst of the belts would be avoided.
In total, they only received 10 mSV of radiation, equivalent of 3 year of natural background radiation, or the maximum allowed for a nuclear power plant worker in a year.
What evidence is there for the VEDAS.
You're conspiracy would have to be massive.
Almost every major scientist in the world.
Science has become more and more impressive, so many experiments have worked. -
No rocks on Mars have zap pits like those on "moon rocks". I have studied images of rocks found on Mars for many years. The images came from Mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity and Mars Lander Phoenix. JPL has numerous microscopic images of Mars rocks. One site:
Look for Microscopic Images, which can display objects as small as 300 microns across. -
No one here has been willing to share the Specific Veda scriptures saying tat (years later) there would be a hoax about the moon. I have a Bagavad Gita, so tell us verse that you see this. Or I will ask my Hare Krishna monk son, if he knows.
Why waist your time and thoughts with such trivial matters?
Read, chant, make offerings, devote your thoughts always on Krishna.
Appreciate – Appreciate – Appreciate – Appreciate everything that He has given you. Show gratitude. Love Love Love, The Infinite Fantastic. The Almighty Everlasting Inexhaustible Unborn. The First and the Last. The Eternal Lord of all beings.
Our Father Our Friend Our Mother Our dearest Loved One. Our Most Worshipable Creator. Krishna.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama,
Rama Rama Hare Hare.
And when you finally realize there is nothing above, beyond, below or outside of Krishna. There is nothing that is not Krishna. When you finally come to understand your true position. Just surrender.Blessed be all on your paths to knowledge and understanding.
The moon is 93 million miles away……….VERY FUNNY!
You do realise that the the Moon is a satellite of Earth……..and therefore cannot be 93 million miles away……….unless you actually think that the Earth has as much gravitational pull as the Sun……..but then again you probably think that too!
And we though Applewhite's Heaven's Gate lot were loony!
See First of all a human being cannot reach any other planet with this human body.Second if science is so much advanced why they can't solve the mystery of DEATH.Third Moon landing was a joke slapped on mankind which many fools celebrate with joy.Fourth If we indeed landed on Moon then why not a American colony is set over there because there will be scarcity of space.Fifth why science is not able to track EARTHQUAKES.
Any of you who love modern science so much and think it is highly advanced then vedas.Then please Reply.If you have dare and guts.
Durgesh wrote:
See First of all a human being cannot reach any other planet with this human body.John:
Yep. That is why they had to use rockets, space capsules, landing modules,
and space suits.Durgesh wrote:
Second if science is so much advanced why they can't solve the mystery of DEATHJohn:
The body is a chemical machine. The machine stops. You are dead meat. What's
the big mystery?Durgesh wrote:
Third Moon landing was a joke slapped on mankind which many fools celebrate with joy.Fourth If we indeed landed on Moon then why not a American colony is set over there because there will be scarcity of space.John:
It's really expensive and technically difficult to go to the Moon. It would be a hard sell to justify the massive amounts of money needed to undertake such an project of colonizing the moon. Look at the difficulties in
getting funds for manned space flight right now? We just don't have the
money or the justification for putting the money together.Durgesh wrote:
Fifth why science is not able to track EARTHQUAKES.John:
As a seismologist, I found this comment howlingly funny. Of course
scientists "track", which is to say record, locate and study
earthquakes. Earthquakes are cause by the elastic rebound of rock
due to failure along a fault. The ultimate cause of earthquakes is
the motion of the crustal plates. All of this stuff is pretty basic.While it is not as exciting as the supernatural explanations that ancient
authors tried to invoke
a prosaic answer which is based on physical measurement and scientific principles is preferable.Durgesh wrote:
Any of you who love modern science so much and think it is highly advanced then vedas.Then please Reply.If you have dare and guts.John:
So, what scientific value you to place on the Vedas? Are the Vedas
even about issues that are relevant to science? Apparently not, if
they can't even get the orbital mechanics of the solar system right,
then of what use are these documents, scientifically speaking? Now
of course, I am not saying that the Vedas are of no value intrinsically
as spiritual documents, but as documents about the properties of the
physical world, they fail.-John
Why hasn't even one body been brought back to life once it has stopped, like other machines?
And why hasn't science been able to prove even one point written in Vedas wrong?
I cannot deny the fact that man has landed on moon unless I see any physical evidence otherwise. This does not mean I agree with every thing modern scince says.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the Van Allen belts. As far as I am concerned that is the smoking gun for a massive hoax. The Van Allen belts are about 1000 miles out. Since the so-called "moon landing" NASA has not sent any manned space flight more than 400 miles up. Why?
The Van Allen radiation belts extend from about 600 miles up to more than 40,000 miles from Earth with the region of highest radiation intensity being between around 2,000 miles and 12,000 miles above Earth. The Astronaut's exposure to those radiation belts is brief (less than 4 hours total – They begin Their time in this region while traveling at 25,000 MPH and pass through it twice, once outbound, and again on Their return. They spend less than an hour in the densest part of the belt.) and They are well protected in Their spacecraft.
Also, the belt is toroidal in shape (like a donut) and the trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft were designed to avoid the worst part of the Van Allen belts. Even the discoverer of the Van Allen belts, Professor James A. Van Allen, has noted the belts would not have been dangerous to the Apollo Astronauts given their trajectories and the spacecraft.
As I said, the spacecraft moved through the belts in about four hours, and the Astronauts were protected from the ionizing radiation by the aluminum hulls of the spacecraft. Furthermore, the orbital transfer trajectory from Earth to the Moon through the belts was chosen to lessen radiation exposure.
Dr. Philip C. Plait of BadAstronomy.com has cited an average dose for the Astronauts of less than 1 rem (10 mSv), which is equivalent to the ambient radiation received by living at sea level for three years. The spacecraft passed through the intense inner belt and the low-energy outer belt and gave a total radiation received on the trip was about the same as allowed for Workers in the nuclear energy field for a year. (See W. David Woods's 2008 book, "How Apollo Flew to the Moon", for more information.) The standard for a lethal dose is designated LD 50/30, defined as the short-term exposure (i.e., over a period of a few hours or less) which would kill 50% of the human population within 30 days and is around 350-400 rems (3.5-4.0 Sv). (Source: Radiation Safety Office, "Radiation Safety Handbook", Columbia University, s.d.) Therefore, U.S. federal regulations are quite cautious in their allowance of exposure for Workers to radiation since the lethal dose is hundreds of times the amount of radiation allowed for such Workers. So, the amount of exposure to the Astronauts would not have been dangerous at all.
The radiation curiously provides actual evidence the Astronauts went to the Moon. Irene Schneider, on the November 20, 2005, episode of The Space Show (www.thespaceshow.com), reports 33 of the 36 Apollo Astronauts involved in the nine Apollo missions to leave Earth orbit have developed early stage cataracts which have been shown to be caused by radiation exposure to cosmic rays during Their trip. Meanwhile, Barry Patrick reports at least 39 former Astronauts have developed cataracts; 36 of Those were involved in high-radiation missions such as the Apollo missions. (Source: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/22oct_cataracts/)
As far as "why no more trips to the moon", sending People to the moon is expensive and around the time of the last landing Americans became increasingly concerned about the budget. Consequently, NASA's budget has come under strict scrutiny over the last 30-40 years and certain programs, like moon landings, have been delayed and/or canceled altogether.
Which came first, the problem or the slotiuon? Luckily it doesn't matter.
stop fighting u all fools brainwash dumbs,n wt typ of sceintfic advncmnt u r talking about???????????in sanskrit science means vigyanam [that which cannot be changed{ for example sun was raising from d east it is raising n it wil alwys raise from d east, bt your science changes in every second only biggest fools will hv trust on ur stupid science…… n if ur sooooooo advance than why dnt u people or ur so called scientists have gutts to stop the biggest law of supreme dats BIRTH OLDAGE DESIESAE N DEATH specialy(DEATH) leave aside d fools question who went to moon n who nt? u al dnt wnt to die nor ur scientists nor ME bt still we r must to die,so wts d use on arguing on foolish talks……..n if u all r inteligent thn talk on realy inteligent topics dnt waste tym on these typ of talks hope u all understand. AAMEN>.
I have been looking into iskcon for a while and i love many aspects of it but lately i have read some things that really bother me. In regards to the moon landings i personally believe the happened but even if they didnt happen all those years ago, in the modern era there are probes that have been sent there. also there are probes on mars, ie the mars rover and they have sent probes to Saturn and Jupiter and there moons with pictures sent back. so when prabhupad says that we cannot get there with mechanical methods, this is false. unless all of nasa, the russian and indian and china space program are all one conspiracy! also how can the moon be further away than the sun from the earth. this is a ridiculous claim, that is apparently said in the srimad bhagvatam. these kind of claims remind me of christian creationist where they believe the universe is only 6000 years old. you both are taking the scriptures so literally and when science goes against it then there are some outrageous claims made.
This is the same with iskcon believing that humans have been on this earth for billions of years and lived with dinosaurs. i really hoped that we didnt have a christian type creationists within hinduism but it seems that we have and that really is not good for our belief system. -
These people are mentally ill who don't believe we landed on the moon. They're Modern day Flat-Earthers.
The sun rises and sets everyday; but the moon only completes its cycle in one month; therefore the apparent distances is that the moon is much further away than the sun.
And that proves what?
The spacecrafts were definitely launched by NASA, which is difficult to fake.
Second the Apollo crafts could NOT have orbited the Earth for 8 days as some of the conspiracy theorists have claimed. If NASA had of done that they would have been caught on their lie, especially if they did it six times.
The Russians tracked the Apollo missions very closely and they knew for a fact that none of the missions were faked. If they only had the slightest clue that the Moon Landing was faked it would have been the ultimate propaganda weapon for use against the US and to Capitalism.
The flag waves because it was planted in the soil and Armstrong twisted the poles. This is obvious because in other footage you can see the flag is not moving when he walks past it.
Also the reason there is no blast crater beneath Apollo 11 is because when the craft landed it reduced speed upon landing on the Moon's surface, so all that it did was blow away dust. The same is with driving into a car park because you don't drive in at 30 miles an hour.
Over 3 quarters of a million people were working on the project in total. It would have been impossible for every 1 of them to keep a secret.
Even filming the landing would have been MORE DIFFICULT than landing on the Moon itself. Think about the number of people they would have needed to shoot the Moon landing in a film studio.
Lastly if the Moon Landing was faked, we would have found out years ago. These things don't last over 40 years without an answer. -
Maybe they went to the moon – This universe has been created and destroyed so many times that the earth, sun and moon location is now shifted
Why are you people still debating this Moonlanding issue. All Apollo moon missions were faked, get over it, get a life, and stop watching BS video's of men walking on the Moon.
moon is actually considered as a higher planetary system according to the vedas. if one does good karma in the present life then he may get his next life on the moon. otherwise its not possible to go there by rocket or space ship.
When you get there in your next life, send me a postcard please.
i liked your comment…this is the iternal mystery of life which fascinates me…there is a secrecy or unsolved equation about life after death…all we are really rootless and going no-where…all we know is we are alive now…argument..counter-argument…i feel amused and helpless and curious hence susceptible…
Stupidity to a whole new level – I agree! The real scriptures (in the Bible) don't mention a moon landing being a hoax. I would question how the Vedic scriptures (written before the Bible, even) would know about something to happen in the future being a hoax. You all make me laugh (in your consciousness malarky)
This takes stupidity to a whole new level
well neil armstrong, stupidity arises from stupid people like you who are just like demons and atheists with no faith in the scriptures and believe all the nonsense hypothesis which the scientists put forward.
well Mr.Greg rowczeino, fools and rascals of first order like you believe everything what scientists say and have no faith in the scriptures. this is the symptom of kali yuga, the dark age of kali.
you reject ideas that are logically proven, and you embrace ignorance to the highest level. History is defined by the biggest conspiracy of that time (JFK, Moon Landing, hell even bigfoot). And your still hung up on a conspiracy invented eons ago by someone no one knows about and is only survived the years because of pathetic people who want to believe that something else controls their lives so they don't have to admit that its their fault they are miserable.
I suppose all the stuff that was left on the moon by Apollo and the photographs showing that human made stuff lying around amid the astronaut footsteps, there are photographs from LRO, taken this year, are also part of the hoax, get a life knuckleheads.
Are you people telling me that this piece of junk landed on the Moon, and then took off again?
Hey Sam the link of the picture isn't working?
Michael said: "The fact that a popular TV show (Mythbusters) was able to tackle all these myths and destroy them is pretty good evidence to me that they at least landed on the physical moon."
Actually, that was one of the saddest days in Mythbusters TV because they made an INCREDIBLE argument FOR conspiracy with their half hearted attempts to debunk, which, their final answer should have been "PLAUSIBLE". Let me explain, for starters, it should be noted that the "mythbusters" are buddies with pro apollo nut, Phil Plait, who couldn't even keep an arguement going against comedian Joe Rogan. Here this guy is supposed to be a scientist, and knuckle head Joe Rogan is devouring him on live radio. It's people like Mr. Plait and the Mythbusters who usually FAIL when going one on one because they have a pre-disposed answer (IE: we went there) and they make their science fit and relay it in a controlled venue (IE: a taped and scripted TV show) SO now to the "Mythbusters" and their pre-determined result. For starters, they show you that you CAN reproduce the video and movements on Earth using cables. They even did practice jumps. Obviously, realizing that this isn't GOOD for their pre-determined outcome, they say, why don't we go up in an airplane, dip the nose to get 1/6 G and see what we get. OK, so they do and the dude waffles back and forth (but no jumps) WHY??? Because with the suit on, his head is right against the fusalage of the plane. Why is this significant? Because IF he had any room to jump, he'd be able to jump MUCH, MUCH higher than the reported 19 inch jump salute. Look, the suits weighed less than 75 pounds on EARTH, and using a fit, Apollo Astronaut size, Conservatvely say 180 pounds on Earth(they were probably much smaller), 180+75=255 255 pounds on Earth, 1/6 of that = 42.5 pounds on the Moon. THAT IS ALL THEY WEIGHED, yet the highest jump was 19 inches. They should have jumped, much, much higher. And the Mythbusters know this, yet they say that is proof enough and bust it. They also went to a laser and supposidly shot it off the retro reflector, however, in 1962 we bounced a laser off the moons surface. YOU DON'T NEED A RETRO REFLECTOR!!!! But, they have the lady point it in some random area, (a dark area I might add) and "they say" no reflection, but if you actually LOOK at the data their OWN FREAKIN CAMERA SHOWS, a PULSE PATTERN SPIKE TOO!!!! I stopped watching "Mythbusters" after that because they show that it was "PLAUSIBLE" to hoax it, yet conclude it busted, which ONLY means they had a pre-determined result and their airplane test was so full of holes, man, it's LAUGHABLE. They should stick to blowing up hotwheels. Oh, and if any Pro Apollo Nut trys to come back with "suit pressure" crap to try to disprove the jump theory, I got sorry news for you, those suits were not under alot of pressure, as the Astronauts had to walk, bend down, move fingers etc. In fact, it was a very low PSI.
wow! (:
I always thought that the Krishnas were a group of well intentioned, blissful, easy-going, spiritualists.
Having read this article, I seems to be just another brain-washing cult determined to de-educate its adherents, keep them ignorant of reality and subservient to superstition.
Know I know where the saying "Ignorance is bliss" comes from.
Here's why I incline toward "fake landing" party.
What do the scientists do after they discover anything of value? They boast about it very loudly. Now, they supposedly carried some rocks back from Moon. Hmmm… I would expect that they analysed them very thoroughly and built up theories about Moon's structure, origins, etc., etc.
How is it that I've never heard or read a single word about these rocks? Could anybody refer to some publications? Or, did they really go there just like mountain climbers, 'Yes we did it'? And come back proud of another enormous waste of money and resources?
Seek and ye shall find. 😉
You can find a comprehensive list of samples taken during the Apollo missions here:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/As for publications relating to these, Google Scholar is your friend:
http://scholar.google.dk/scholar?hl=da&as_sdt=2000&q=analysis+lunar+sampleBut your description of the motivation is also not exactly wrong. A large part of the missions was to flip the Communists the bird, it was never entirely scientific.
In a way, does it have any meaning in our lives whether or not the moon landing was for real, or a colossal hoax? It doesn't put food on my table, or pay my rent. In closing, even if the astronauts were in fact on the moon and they barely jumped up, perhaps that's because they may have felt if they jumped too high, they wind up leaving the moon and float in space forever.
Dear satsvarupa-dasa-goswami,
Please quote exactly, given chapter and verse of the Vedas
so that interested parties may read for themselves what the Vedas
say regarding the structure of the solar system. Particularly the parts
about the distance to the Sun and Moon.-John
I, personally do not doubt the ancient scriptures 'cause I believe it holds meaning beyond our casual intellect. However, I am not so sure of the ways it is interpreted by people who claim to understand the vedas.
My only question with regards to this article is… why didn't the vedic scholars raise questions or doubts on this issue back then? Why is it being rasied now? If the vedic scholars understand that the vedas so clearly disregard any attempt like this, then this issue of man landing on the moon should have been raised back in 1969. -
Is it not possible planetary orbits have changed throughout time?
I really love how the "evidence" you are deriving your conclusion on is an irrelevant block of gibberish written before the advent of projectile kinematics.
It fascinates me how someone can lie to themselves so blatantly.
Gee, wouldn't you think that if it were so easy for bronze age farmers to discern the mechanics of astrophysics and the capabilities thereof, that they would've used their doubtless IMMENSE intellectual prowess to, i don't know, NOT die in obscure poverty and be completely forgotten of by history until some lunatic conveniently needs them to disprove something that I can confirm with a telescope ON MY OWN? -
there is a video on YouTube called "Hindu Cosmology- Bhagavatam- mysteries of The Universe in a five part series….its by Richard Thompson…..
i think it is worth watching, it gives a good detail description on the Vedic Perspective on this topic….have fun…
Thanks for that link, will check it out.
Here is that same video at a higher resolution and not split up:
Even though the link that I gave above is supposedly higher resolution, the sound is distorted. Please try one of the following instead:
Anyone that doesn't believe that they landed on the moon is an IDIOT!!! It took them countless years to get a rocket to get to outer space. Then one year, they did it. Got man on the moon and left the USA Flag up there. I'm sure they had a special one made for the moon, with some metal inside the flag to hold it in place. And the WHOLE world saw it. Even the Astronauts had a ball up there. Kicking a rock around, like it was a soccer ball. After they were done up there, got back in the ship and blasted off back to Earth. With stuffs they got from the moon. Even the old clippings that I saw proves it. I saw everthing at the NASA Space Center and planning to go back there again. Even right now, they are working on the space station up there.
So the Lunar Retroreflector array, just… grew there?
If you don't know what it is (and clearly, you have NO clue) then I suggest you look here;
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/21jul_llr.htmIt has been in constant use since Neil Armstrong placed it along with the other Lunar surface experiments (the Retroreflector is the only one still working) and is used by more than a dozen observatories on a daily basis.
I would be VERY interested in hearing your explanation for it's existence there. -
During a solar eclipse the moon can be clearly seen to cross in front of the sun. There is nothing "very meticulos and super-time-consuming" about it.
Short of being placed on the moon in person, will just never believe it happened. It's that simple. There are too many people on this planet to all agree that something did or did not happen no matter what the evidence.
The evidence of landing on the Moon is immense. The Moon is not a photo/tv studio. Images look the way they do because it is an alien environment. For every good photo taken there were a handful of unusable ones. Do more research concerning how things behave in a vacuum (near vacuum).
Nowhere on this planet is there a vacuum chamber large enough to fake the Moon walks. When you watch how the soil reacts when kicked around you'll see it is behaving in an airless fashion. No air to suspend the dust means it just travels in the direction it was sent in and falls back according to gravity.
I won't even get into the other debunks. It's out there if you want to believe it. If you don't, then just remain ignorant until we eventually go back and revisit the old sites. They'll be there for eons.
Therefore, since the moon has a particular standard of life and atmosphere, if one wants to travel there he has to adapt his material body to the conditions of that planet.
It's like you guys never heard of space suits…
seriously. The article states that you can't survive in water. Right, that's why we have SCUBA gear, old diving suits, and submarines. Water is actually very much like space, in terms of our ability to survive in it. That's why astronauts train in water on earth first. A dive suit is to water as a space suit is to space. A submarine is to water as a spacecraft is to space. You can't deny that there are astronauts on the ISS as we speak. What changes if they were to go from empty space to the surface of a celestial body with no atmosphere such as the moon? absolutely nothing.
"Why do you accept the popular version of the manned moon landing? Because you believe the authority of the scientists, the journalists, and the politicians who propagate that version. When we cite the Vedic scriptures, which state that the "astronauts" could not have gone to the moon, we are simply favoring another authority."
There is another way apart from a choice of "authority". That is to accept that certain things are shown to be false. If the Vedic scriptures were true then certain other things would be true (parralax measurements for example). As they are not I can reject Vedic scripture without having to rely on an "authority". In the cited example I can reject the Vedic denial of the moon landings and I can reject the "secular" conspiracy theories that the moonlandings were faked without invoking an authority. The only cogent theory available to me ends up being that the moonlandings took place. Thus I can conclude that the moonlandings took place without invoking an authority, without starting from the premise of belief in scientists and journalists (the belief in what they say is a conclusion, not a premise).
[…] Krishnas took offense at this because, according to their Vedic scriptures, the moon landing was a hoax. Specifically it says that the moon is further away than the sun, and that in order for a human to […]
Please tell verse in Vedic scriptures.
I knew this, when I was a kid it all seemed so fake. Especially the moonwalk. In low gravity simulation also you will see that a man will rise higher when he was hopping around like the astranauts on the moon.
But the astronauts stay very low to the ground. It is obvious that they made the astronauts hop and then played it in slowmotion.(If any idiot is talking about a spacesuit being heavy, then the astronauts would not be able to move while on earth if the suits were that heavy)
And about mythbusting americans are experts.
The typical myth busting stratergy is you take just a few ambigious statements from the conspiracy theory and you "bust" it(even though it can be argued and sometimes in over zealousness, conspiracy theorist tend to jump to wrong conclusions about certain things, not all or the gist of the theory always is right)
And then they make up 10 other "theories and bust. These theories would either have been created by the mythbusters themselves or would be created by a "misinformist". "Misinformists" are created to give the real conspiracy theorists a bad name. Sometimes "misinformist" also mislead the "real" conspiracy theorists. They do that by convincing them with "doctored" evidence that something(false) is true and influence them to add it to their theory, thus destroying the reliability of the theory.
This is how such theories are rebuked. Also these mythbuster latch to one mistake in the theory which is actually irrelevant and make all the "fools" concentrate on that and thus convince people the theory is false.
What the rebuttal of the moon landing never talks about is. Why photos of the sky was never taken.(since the photos of the surface and astronauts showed a black sky to which the excuse given was the aperture of the camera was not adjusted so the sky would not appear, which I accept as on earth too this would happen). You really believe them when they tell you that they took a camera which did not have an adjustment features. They took 2(or 3) moon mobiles which cost thousands of dollars(which was nothing more than a sand mobile) and did not even think of fitting even one camera which could click the sky. When they knew that every astronomer on earth was waiting to see something new. Well my friend it was the astronomers that made NASA afraid as they knew that they would have to be really accurate or else any amatuer astromoner would have called out their bluff. They did not have an astronomer on board who was willing to do the calculations and and project how the sky would look and also maybe they were not able to re-create the sky during those days
Ok coming to the point.
I only keep asking one question that no one asks if the moon landing was a hoax, then WTF is India doing????
The Chandrayan is a hoax too then.
I truly believe the NASA is lying. Sometimes my theory is that NASA did go to the moon, because common you are talking about NASA here. Don't you think they would have not know that when the moon vessel landed it would create a burnt hole(which we do see in the pictures) in the ground.
Maybe they were too over confident so that is why they never bothered.
They thought we are too foolish(and they could be right considering the opposition you have faced here)
But I also think they are hiding what they say on the moon if they indeed when to the moon. This controversy that we are in. We are only fighting did we go to the moon or did we not.
No one even for a moment thinks that maybe NASA went to the moon found something else and is not telling us because they want to exploit and keep it for themselves.
So they created this entire fake landing and kept it deliberately fake so that we would only be arguing about a "fake" controversy and never get to the bottom of the truth.
So many people believe the moon landing is fake even in India but not one bloody Idiot had the guts to question the Chandrayan.(mission of India to the moon)
I am sure that Indian scientist would know of the fact that we cannot travel in this form to the moon or any planet for that matter.
I still believe that theories of "rifts" "wormholes" and "star gates" are the only way to travel in space. Even Einstien speaks of wormholes.
So this has to be a hoax.
Why is not the ISKON community question the Indian space mission. Since it is unmanned I think we should see the truth.
The sad part is today Computer graphics is so advanced that anything can be created to look original so we will never know if the Indians are also telling the truth.-
astronauts are not able to walk around in spacesuit on the earth. They wear flight suits while on earth and in the shuttle flight etc. Space walk suits are considerable heavier. While wear the spacewalk suits on earth the astronauts have to be forklifted in an out a pools for their pratice walks.
It's insane to me to just ignore proven scientific fact that have been proven by countless observations. And none of the math and physics with oribit and celestial bodies is that complex. It's the expanding universe or bodies out of orbit, traveling through space being affected by larger bodies were the calculation get complex.
The counter argument is just made up fluff without any supporting data. Lighting still means the gods are angry right?
Cite evidence please. With links. (A cookie for you if you put it in MLA format…)
The Moon is "800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun" …
Vedas support a Geocentric Solar System – Earth at the centre of the solar system, around which all other heavenly bodies orbit. The Vedas are saying that Sun circles the Earth at a lower orbit than the Moon, that the Sun is 800,000 miles closer to us than the Moon.
"Puranic cosmology, … holds a geocentric view of the universe and describes the sun as closer to the earth than the moon, … " from Hinduism and Science – A Hindu Primer by Shukavak N. Dasa
I don't know which is more silly, alleging an Apollo Conspiracy or promoting a Geocentric Solar System.
vedas never said sun is closer to earth than the moon,or even if it is,who knows???..we never saw it,we are being just fed information from a singular source we call "modern science"& we are supposed to believe things without questioning them.you should be specific while mentioning which vedic literature you are talking about,i mean even the britishers wrote lot of "vedas",to show that they were worse than savages in front of flat earth theory of christianity……besides'this shukavak.n.das(whoever he is) did not compile the vedas.different people give different interpretation of vedas on the basis of their intentions.
Regardless of whether or not the moon-landing is a hoax, how can the moon be located "800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun", when we regularly see the moon pass in front of the sun? This is something that can be observed using no (or very cheap) equipment every time there is a solar eclipse.
All this type of calculation (of planetary placement and so forth) is very meticulos and super-time-consuming to explain with illustrations and mapping and so forth. The original mapping of this subject matter that is understandable to modern society has at this time been lost to obscurity. So how it shall manifest again is a mystery. The positioning of Just the Earth and Sun alone as conjunct and appossed to one another is very intricate and cannot be summed readily. Saying such and such and so far away like this just cannot clarify any vedic conclusion just like that to Their reletivity. There is soooo much more to it. Unfortunately, like I said at present this science has been lost to obscurity.
Shorter Narahari Lockhart:
I will use big words that I don't know what they mean to try and confuse simpletons like me because I have no idea what I'm saying.
Just answer the question, how can an object block your view of another object that is closer to the viewer?
It can't. The only way an object can block your vision of another one is if it is BETWEEN you and the other object. To be between you and the other object, it must be CLOSER than the other object. Period. No exceptions. No other possibilities.
I saw a documentary that countered the moon landing conspiracy theory documentaries and other 'evidence.' The flag waves because in a vacuum there is less friction, and it takes force to shove a flag in the ground. This force jiggles the flag, and it appears to wave, but then stops. We can even see this in the moon landing videos. We can't see stars in the video because it's an old camera – even the astronauts aren't in high resolution. Footprints can be made in a vacuum because of the nature of moon dust – it holds its form without needing moisture. The fact that a popular TV show (Mythbusters) was able to tackle all these myths and destroy them is pretty good evidence to me that they at least landed on the physical moon.
There are also observatories you can go to yourself and witness very strong evidence for the moon landing. For one, some astronauts have gone there and placed retro-reflectors, that is, a reflector that reflects light directly back to the source of the light, as opposed to a regular reflector which bounces light in a perpendicular fashion. Retro-reflectors are like the lights on the back of a bicycle. Using these retro-reflectors, scientists on earth point and fire high-powered laser beams which bounce back at the speed of light. All you then have to do is time how long it takes for the laser-beam to return to earth to get a measurement of the distance from the earth to the moon. And it's not as though pointing a laser at any part of the moon does this – they showed this on Mythbusters, too.
As far as I understand, even if we went to the moon in physical space, the Vedas state there are many different dimensions in the material world. Just as there are bodies suitable to living on the sun planet, there must be some sort of suitable reality which we have no access to that exists on other planets. It also states in the Vedas that only advanced sages could actually see the demigods. This is the only suitable explanation I can think of. That and the possibility we didn't go to the moon proper – we went somewhere else. But that still doesn't explain the retro-reflectors.
Just now in the last decade have scientists in general taken under consideration that in different places in the universal physical laws that were formerly considered generally a constant indeed vary in different locations throughout the universe.
I can see the demigods. You don't have to be a great sage.
Remember also Srila Prabhupada was a scientist too. He did say that eventually from this Planet that telephone transmission to the Narayana Lokas (Worlds) will be possible. So that a telephone conversation with a resident of Narayana Loka in the spiritual world and someone here on Earth will be possible.
hari hari nara hari
"Just now in the last decade have scientists in general taken under consideration that in different places in the universal physical laws that were formerly considered generally a constant indeed vary in different locations throughout the universe."
[citation needed]
It's already possible, my friend, IF it's not fraud, of course. It's called instrumental transcomunication, you know. Here in Brazil there are some of the great names of such work in the world. Check this site out:
All the best
You are utter fools, that the only thing can be said about your completely irrational ideas and a bunch of lies.
Shame on you.-
Misunderstanding of scripture happens all the time in every religion. Truly only men of realization are qualified to make comments on sciptures and their meanings notwithstanding the intprettations, translations and mistranslations that have been passed down through the ages. There is nothing wrong with a scientific approach to life and its enigmas and in reality there is no contradiction between science and true religion or spirituality. Everything that happens happens by the "Divine Will" otherwise it couldn't happen. Life is in a state of constant flux, we are living and learning moving forward mostly and sometimes backward but ever onward and upward on the path of Self-Realization.
There is no reason not to believe that there has been a landing on the moon. This is a world where people make choices. We are not automatons. Everyone cannot fit into the same mold. No one has the right to determine what others should or should not be doing unless it is somehow harmful to society at large. We live, we learn, we discover. No single religion or philosophy is the sole harbinger of truth. Each man must discover for himself what truth is and how to live effectly and attain happiness. Freedom of choice has been given to man for this purpose.
The vedic scriptures do not state anything about the moon landing being a hoax. The vedic scriptures go way back and were written too long ago. This sounds like someones misinterprettation of scripture. Religion should not be used as a tool to subvert the rational thinking of human beings. Many people make the mistake of misunderstanding scripture and mixing half truths with truth and then making statements that are not fully accurate. Blind belief is not acceptable. Faith includes testing your beliefs scientifically and proving to yourself that they are true. You cannot fit a square peg into a round hole. It just doesn't work. If the round hole of your undnerstanding is flawed then, the square peg of reality including scientific truth will never fit.
You pro apollo nuts can just stick your fingers in your ears and say "Baaaaaa" You are all sheep that believe everything you see on TV. FACT: The highest man has ever flown is 368 miles above the Earth in the Space Shuttle. Everything, from retro reflectors, moon rocks and telementary have been 100% debunked. And of course, when NASA is pressed to provide the original copies of ANYTHING relating to this, they come back with "it's been misplaced or lost"… Really? The MOST SIGNIFICANT achievement in the HISTORY of MANKIND and you toss around the documentation like it's a used kleenex. Anyone, with ANY photography experience can look at photos taken on the moon and prove they were staged in a controlled environment on EARTH. I don't know how many pics from the Moon have "fall-off" which is 100% IMPOSSIBLE with a NON-ATMOSPHERIC, DAY LIT landscape. (they supposidly landed on the day lit side of the moon, not the dark side) Not to mention multiple light sources and men fully lit in shadow. The Apollo nuts always say, "light reflected from the surface"… Well, the surface has the same luminosity as common asphalt here on Earth and try getting those same results out in the street.
Acceptance is the pathway to happiness Apollo believers. Or you can keep your anger and frustration spilling out on sites like this.
40 years ago my dad drove a Pontiac Bonneville with drum brakes, carberuated motor, and AM radio… it seems we've come along way here on Earth, but have regressed in Space.
"Well, the surface has the same luminosity as common asphalt here on Earth"
Ah, so that must be why the moon lights up earth's night. Because it's dark as asphalt. That makes perfect sense.
Every square meter of the moon shine with the light of a 60 watt bulb.
The moon shines by reflecting sunlight. Like Earth, half of the moon is always lit by the sun's direct rays, and the other half is in shadow. You may have seen that the moon does not always look round. Remember when the moon travels around Earth, different parts of its bright side are seen from Earth. Without the sun, there would be no moonlight.
..FACT: The highest man has ever flown is 368 miles above the Earth in the Space Shuttle
Where did you get this fact?
…Everything, from retro reflectors, moon rocks and telementary have been 100% debunked
Again by Who and where, is there a website?…Not to mention multiple light sources
There are no multiple shadows…Well, the surface has the same luminosity as common asphalt here on Earth
How do you know that? Have you studied the surface of the moon and how was it obtained? -
FACT: The highest man has ever flown is 368 miles above the Earth in the Space Shuttle.
Why are you willing to accept this as fact, but not that men landed on the Moon? Unless you personally flew on the Space Shuttle, you're relying on the exact same sources of information for the two claims. Why not claim that men have never been in space at all? It's just as reasonable a position as saying they never landed on the moon.
The article makes a big point of how we would have to adapt our material bodies to survive on other planets, going as far as to say:
Even on the earth planet these restrictions hold true. For example, a human being cannot possibly live in the water nor can a fish live on land.
Nor could a human being possibly live in the vacuum of space, right? So, by that reasoning, you could claim that no human being has traveled in space ever because he couldn't survive the trip? Just like himan beings couldn't survive being in the water?
Except that we do live in those environments – we live in the water by traveling in submarines, living in submerged habitats, wearing SCUBA gear, etc. We live in the vacuum of space by traveling in spacecraft, living in space stations, and wearing space suits. We don't have to adapt our material bodies to the native environment, we build an enclosure that protects us from that environment. We didn't send people to walk around on the Moon in shorts and T-shirts, we built spacecraft and spacesuits to protect them.
Everything, from retro reflectors, moon rocks and telementary have been 100% debunked.
By people who didn't know what they were talking about. You can shoot a laser beam at the Moon today and hit those reflectors; with the right equipment, you can verify it for yourself.
And of course, when NASA is pressed to provide the original copies of ANYTHING relating to this, they come back with "it's been misplaced or lost"
This is not true; most of the documentation and materials have been preserved. A complete set of Saturn V plans are on file at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, AL. Mission reports, photos, etc., are all on file. IINM, some telemetry tapes were lost or overwritten; in a bureaucracy like NASA's, that's really not surprising.
I don't know how many pics from the Moon have "fall-off" which is 100% IMPOSSIBLE with a NON-ATMOSPHERIC, DAY LIT landscape.
Light intensity falls off with distance; the horizon is closer; the lunar surface is irregular.
(they supposidly landed on the day lit side of the moon, not the dark side) Not to mention multiple light sources and men fully lit in shadow.
Multiple light sources means multiple shadows; in how many pictures do you see multiple shadows being cast by the same object?
The Apollo nuts always say, "light reflected from the surface"… Well, the surface has the same luminosity as common asphalt here on Earth and try getting those same results out in the street.
Those nice white spacesuits were a major source of reflection in many of those shots. As was the reflective surface of the LM itself.
And while the lunar surface may not be more reflective than asphalt, it is reflective enough to fill in shadows in many of those photographs. Think about how bright the moon when viewed from Earth, bright enough to be seen in daylight. You're looking at something with the same reflectivity as asphalt.
I just watched Moon Rising, an independent film showing high definition colored pictures of the moon taken from a top of the line telescope and some from the 1994 clementine space shuttle. It shows structures,light forms, oceans in full COLOR. There are opalescent pinks, purples, blues and greens. When the same pictures from clementine were shown at a conference they were shown in black and white. For some reason, astronomers are pointing out that our gov't still wants people to believe the moon is grey. They also up the contrast of the pictures to hide the anomalies and depths of the topography. In all it's splendor the moon is very lush, colorful and beautiful. I think it is possible that the moon is farther away and what apollo landed on was a dwarf planet. Either way, it was a political dick measuring contest and the moon is still uninhabitable by earth humans. So let's get it together here on earth k?


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Amendment No. 1 is more about 'how' than 'what'
Published 9:24 pm Friday, October 26, 2012
Rep. Edward Lindsey, (R-Atlanta), majority whip in the Georgia House of Representatives, says he finds himself bordering between "amused and disturbed" by opponents of the charter school amendment (Amendment No. 1), which is set for a vote on Nov. 6. Specifically, he doesn't like the assertion that the state school board retains the power to overrule on appeal a local school board's decision to deny a charter school, after the Supreme Court's ruling on the subject in May 2011.
He said he would appreciate my "correcting" my previous comments on that point. I got that information from the State Department of Education, which Mr. Lindsey obviously doesn't consider the highest and best source of information.
Lindsey and others have seized on Justice David Nahmias' dissent that although the state board of education's ability to approve charter schools wasn't at issue in the case, it would be unconstitutional given the majority opinion. To proponents, we are just one lawsuit away from there being no way to provide public school options outside of local school boards.
Opponents disagree strongly with Lindsey. The Department of Education gave me this statement after my discussion with the majority whip: "The State Board of Education can still hear appeals. The proponents are basing their argument on a potential lawsuit, not what is the current environment."
One source told me this week his lawyers say Lindsey is just plain wrong. Another source tells me that Lindsey is "confused" by the language in Justice Nahmias' opinion regarding state chartered special schools, which are charter schools that were denied by a local school board and then approved by the state Board of Education. There were three of them before the Supreme Court decision. Today there are 15, with 10 new applications pending.
Let's leave the opponents and proponents to argue over what the Supreme Court said and look at how the amendment is being sold to the public. Can you spell "disingenuous," boys and girls?
I asked Rep. Lindsey why Gov. Nathan Deal's and his press office could go all out in support of the amendment — courtesy of our hard-earned tax dollars — but school boards and the like could not.
He said he did not want to get diverted from the merits of the issue to what he considered a "sideshow issue," and declares, "I leave that to the Attorney General, for whom I have a great deal of respect, to play traffic cop." I think that most of you reading this column don't consider muzzling one side of a debate in a democracy a "sideshow issue." It is a fundamental issue.
Maybe Attorney General Sam Olens will tell us how the charter school association can use school time to put together a piece in support of the amendment when opponents cannot. A charter school teacher who wishes to remain anonymous wrote me to say she is tired of being badgered at work to support the amendment and finds attorney Glenn Delk's lawsuit to stifle opponents a hypocrisy. The employee says the attorney general needs a "serious wake-up call" on this kind of double-standard. I agree. Mr. Olens' silence has been surprising and disappointing. Does he have a dog in this fight?
And there is this: When you go to vote, you will see language on the ballot "explaining" the amendment: It says: "Provides for improving student achievement and parental involvement through more public charter school options." Says who? Not the opponents. Is this amendment so bad, proponents have to trick voters into passing it?
And this: The committee campaigning for the passage of the amendment is being funded almost totally from out of state, including an Arkansas Walmart heiress and charter school management companies.
This amendment is not about charter schools. We have charter schools in Georgia and more to come. It is about turning over the creation of charter schools to an unelected state commission appointed by politicians while taking control from local school boards in the community. Remember that if you don't approve of a local decision, you can get rid of the local school board member. Try that with a state-appointed commission.
I like Rep. Edward Lindsey. He is an honorable man, but no matter how one interprets the Supreme Court decision, I cannot support an amendment with deliberately deceitful language being funded by out-of-state interests attempting to take away local community control and in an environment that allows free speech to only one side of the debate. Frankly, I am surprised he can.
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Let's start with the painfully obvious. Sewing is a domestic activity, and as such, has generally been in the domain of women's responsibilities. Prior to the advent of feminism, home sewing was wrapped up in all the other messy notions that prompted the need for women's liberation: the erasure of women into undervalued roles and social conditions that didn't allow for sustainable life choices choices outside of marriage and motherhood. (Just for the record: I am not bashing homemaking. I am merely glossing over several decades of women's history! I'm not sure which should offend you more.) With the publication of The Feminine Mystique and the evolution of first wave feminism, women began to detach themselves from domestic work and hence, home sewing became a less popular - perhaps even ridiculed - activity. We have the second wave of feminism to thank for many legal rights that women now have. But sadly, this era also saw the further decline of home crafts. For some, sewing might even have been considered an anti-feminist activity.
This idea has, thankfully, largely been criticized by third wave feminists, who, for the most part, rejected the idea that to gain power women must inject themselves into traditionally male activities and give up any aspirations of domestic bliss. As these feminists saw it, disowning any activity that was traditionally feminine further compounded the cultural notion that women's work is meaningless - that to do work of importance, we must take on traditionally male roles.
Feminism took a pronounced turn for the crafty with the publication of Stitch 'n Bitch, the book single-handedly responsible for making knitting cool again. Authored by Debbie Stoller, founder of the feminist magazine Bust, the book is both a how-to and a decidedly feminist call to action. The beautifully written chapter "Take Back the Knit" speaks volumes about the relationship between feminism and crafting. It's a gem of a chapter all around, but my favorite passage is this:
"Betty Friedan and other like-minded feminists had overlooked an important part of knitting when they viewed it simply as part of women's societal obligation to serve everyone around them--they had forgotten that knitting served the knitter as well."In other words, crafts like sewing and knitting are nourishing to the soul, not just the home. Reflecting this idea, women today are far more likely to sew for themselves - because it feeds their creativity and sense of beauty - rather than a sense of gendered obligation. We live in a very exciting time in which feminism, punk DIY aesthetics, and eco-consciouness have converged to create a new crafting movement. And instead of feeling oppressed by sewing and other domestic arts, feminists now often use them as a means of connection to each other and to our creative selves.
But here's my question: why hasn't sewing become an emblem of crafty third-wave feminism in the way that knitting has? For whatever reason, sewing hasn't become a craft of choice for hip feminists, despite publishers' attempts to find the Stitch 'n Bitch of sewing. Sewing (or at least couture and vintage sewing) does seem to have less of a punk aesthetic than knitting - a bigger push towards refined methods rather than a scrappy DIY aesthetic. But I think we seamstresses need to start holding our own as crafty feminists!
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While I was doing my meal planning for this week, two things were on my mind; one, I needed to do a pasta dish since I am hosting Presto Pasta Nights this week and two, I was craving spanakopita . Naturally, at some point I decided to combine the two and do a pasta version of a spanakopita. At first I was just going to go with a quick pasta dish with spinach, feta and herbs but this combination of two great meals deserved something more and I decided to go all out and make a spanakoptia lasagna. The recipe was pretty easy to come up with, being just the spanakopita filling all layered with lasagne noodles and melted mozzarella cheese. Although the lasagna was straight forward to put together it took a bit of effort but it was so worth it! The amazing spinach, herb and feta flavour combination worked just as well in lasagna form as it did in phyllo pie form. I now really don't know which I prefer, the lasagne noodles and melted mozzarella or the light and flaky phyllo version. I will have to make both versions many more times and find out. 🙂 I was thinking that you could easily replace some or all of the spinach with chard or kale to change things up a bit.
Spinach and Feta Lasagna (aka Spanakopita Lasagna)
- 4 bunches spinach (blanched and squeezed dry; or 4 boxes frozen spinach, thawed and squeezed dry)
- 1 cup herbs (such as parsley, dill and mint; chopped)
- 1 bunch green onions (sliced)
- 1 cup feta (crumbled)
- 1 cup ricotta
- 3 eggs
- salt and pepper to taste
- 3 cups mozzarella (grated)
- 1/2 pound lasagne noodles (cooked) (gluten free for gluten free)
- Mix the spinach, herbs, green onions, feta, ricotta and eggs.
- Place a layer of the lasagne noodles in the bottom of your 9×13 inch baking dish.
- Top with half of the spinach mixture and 1/3 of the mozzarella.
- Top with another layer of noodles.
- Top with the remaining spinach mixture and 1/3 of the mozzarella.
- Top with another layer of noodles followed by the remaining mozzarella.
- Bake in a preheated 350F/180C oven until bubbling on the sides and golden brown on top, about 30-45 minutes.
Pastitsio (Greek Lasagna) with Greens
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Over at The Facebook there are now many different options for authors who wish to have a presence there.
Should you have a public Facebook profile? Should you create a dedicated author page? Should you create a dedicated page for your books too? Should you throw up your hands until Mark Zuckerberg gives you some personal guidance?
First, some definitions. A profile is a personal profile, e.g. what your friends became Facebook friends with, uh, on Facebook. It's the thing you had all along.
If you are going to use a profile to promote your book stuff, you should turn on subscriptions, which allow people to subscribe to your public posts. This way you don't have to accept friend requests from people you don't know — they can just subscribe to your updates.
Your profile can be almost completely private or almost completely public depending on how you post. Just be sure and be careful about whether you're posting publicly, just to friends, or to a smaller group.
A page is a public page that people can Like. You can create a page as a public figure, and you can create pages for your individual books. When people like your page they receive updates from that page in their News Feed.
So. You're an author. What should you do? Profile with subscriptions or page? Well, it depends.
Here are the pros of having a profile with subscriptions turned on:
- You only have to maintain one presence on Facebook rather than both a profile and a page
- If you befriended thousands of people you didn't know before Facebook had pages, you can unfriend these people and they stay subscribed to your updates.
- Also, if someone sends you a friend request and you don't accept it, they also stay subscribed to your updates.
- Thus, utilizing a public profile can help you take back a crowded Facebook profile and manage it a bit more carefully.
- It allows you to maintain separate presences. If you want to avoid spamming your friends with all your book stuff or your blog, it can be helpful to have a place that's just book stuff and save your other personal posts for your personal profile.
- Like buttons are easier to stick on your website than Subscribe buttons.
- Pages have access to analytics that profiles don't.
- If your Facebook presence is going to be maintained by more than one person, pages are way easier to manage that.
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Meet and greet fellow VegWeb-heads! Go ahead and introduce yourself if you're new to the forums. We don't bite—unless you're made of vegan marshmallows.
From at-home chefs to restaurant regulars, there's one vegetarian truth: we're a little food crazy. This is the place to be for tantalizing talk on all things food.
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Fur, feathers, scales, and beyond—brag about your cute, cuddly, and smart companion animals. All animal-related discussions welcome!
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The gloves are about to come off. It's time for a no-holds barred, battle of the words. If you're looking for a debate (read: argument), you've come to the right place.
Whatever happens in Do Not Disturb, stays in Do Not Disturb. Please. For all tantalizing talk not fit for a PG-13 movie, come on in and start sharing.
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Nokia to look to the sky and bring solar charging to Windows Phones?
Nokia has hit smartphone innovation head on with wireless charging, PureView camera technology and more, but the company doesn't appear to wish to halt with what's already on offer. According to a report over on MonWindowsPhone, Nokia is believed to be looking to work with SunPartner Group on its What You See Is Photovoltaic Surface (Wysips) product and add solar charging to smartphones later this year.
Prototypes are rumoured to be making an appearance at this coming Mobile World Congress. Now, before we head into this rumour, do have the salt shaker at hand.
Wysips has a goal to implement solar technology into a wide variety of appliances, including LCD screens and smartphones. Our interest is peeked, as is a mobile device manufacturer. Nokia? Possibly, but without further information we can't call names just yet. But first, what's this technology all about and what has it got to do with Windows Phones?
The Wysips solar film which would be applied to smartphones is not entirely transparent, but appears so to the user by lenticular printing (AKA magic), an optical technology that reveals different images depending on the viewer's position. It's often used to create 3D effects and animations. The Wysips product consists of two layers mounted onto the smartphone screen:
- A film of photovoltaic strips
- A thin flexible lenticular film, by which the user sees the screen or image from one angle, and the PV layer from another angle.
It's not such a farfetched idea as Wysips is already working on such technology, which will see smartphones recharge through enough exposure to the Sun's rays. But who could be looking at implementing this into hardware? Nokia would be a superb bet, if we do say so ourselves. With wireless charging already established and included in mid-high level Windows Phones, we could always see solar charging too.
MonWindowsPhone managed to get word that Wysips has signed a deal with a smartphone manufacturer, but the brand remains confidential. It's still some time before we see such features included on mobile hardware, but could Windows Phone be the first platform to support it? If we were Microsoft or Nokia and have not yet looked at Wysips, we'd look at snapping up this concept quickly.
As noted above, we'll be expecting more details at MWC.
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Bring the entire family to Cycling Sunday Fun Day on Sunday, May 19, 3:30- 6:00 PM. Cyclists, skaters and pedestrians can enjoy a 1-mile loop route that will be closed to automobile travel. For more family fun, an adjacent stretch of greenway will have games, educational booths, and other activities. This FREE event is great for people of all ages!
The Winston-Salem/ Forsyth County elementary school that has the greatest participation in this event will receive $400 in PE equipment. What a great way to have fun and support your local elementary school! Get outside and cycle, walk or skate in an auto-free zone and enjoy the beauty around Old Salem. Note: helmets are required for cyclists and skaters. Registration and parking are at Gateway Family Practice (390 West Salem Avenue). There is no charge for this event.
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In the event of inclement weather the day of the event, call 703-3110. This event is sponsored by, the City of Winston-Salem Department of Transportation, the Forsyth County Health Department, the Sustainability Resource Center and the Winston-Salem Urban Area Bicycle & Pedestrian Program.


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Samsung's Hummingbird 1 GHz ARM Cortex processor already fares quite well against the 1 GHz Snapdragon in the GLBenchmark, and has helped power impressive sales of the Galaxy S line of Android smartphones across all major U.S. wireless carriers. Now, Samsung is introducing a new 1 GHz ARM Cortex A9 dual-core processor, dubbed "Orion."
The Hummingbird, which powers devices like the Epic 4G and the upcoming Samsung Tab, is a single-core processor. The Orion features a pair of 1 GHz Cortex A9's, allowing an estimated 50 percent increase over the Hummingbird's power, while improving battery life and allowing 1080p video capability and HD recording.
"Mobile device designers need an application processor platform that delivers superb multimedia performance, fast CPU processing speed, and abundant memory bandwidth," Dojun Rhee, a representative for the Taiwanese tech company, said in a press release. "Samsung's newest dual core application processor chip is designed specifically to fulfill such stringent performance requirements while maintaining long battery life."
The A9's performance is based on its 45nm architecture, compared to the A8's 65nm. Each core will sport a 32KB data cache and a 32KB instruction cache, as well as a 1MB L2 cache "to optimize CPU processing performance and provide fast context switching in a multi-tasking environment." An enhanced GPU will allow five times the graphics performance over the Hummingbird, which should entice heavy gamers.
"Customers have the choice to use different types of storage including NAND flash, moviNAND, SSD or HDD providing both SATA, and eMMC interfaces. Customers can also choose their appropriate memory options including low power LPDDR2 or DDR3, which is commonly used for high performance," the press release said.
The Orion will also allow mobile devices to run two simultaneous on-screen displays, while powering another external display like a TV, thanks to an on-chip HDMI 1.3a interface.
The Orion will be available to "select customers" in Q4 of 2010, and will begin mass production in the first half of 2011. You can expect the first batch of Orion-powered smartphones to hit the market some time around then.
Source: DailyTech