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Mr. Speaker, I thank my good friend for yielding me time, and I rise in very strong support of H. Res. 393. I want to commend its sponsor and all of the Members who are taking part in this very important debate.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday, along with the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Cardin), who is on the floor and will be speaking momentarily, we returned back from the OSCE, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, Parliamentary Assembly.
Every year, parliamentarians from the 55 nations that comprise the OSCE meet to discuss issues of importance. This year the focus was on terrorism, but we made sure that a number of other issues, because certainly anti -Semitism is inextricably linked to terrorism, were raised in a very profound way.
Yesterday, two very historic and I think very vital things happened in this debate. I had the privilege of co-chairing a historic meeting on anti -Semitism with a counterpart, a member of the German Bundestag, Professor Gert Weisskirchen, who is a member of the Parliament there, also a professor of applied sciences at the University of Heidelberg, and we heard from four very serious, very credible and very profound voices in this battle to wage against anti-Semitism.
We heard from Abraham Foxman, the National Director of the Anti -Defamation League, who gave a very impassioned but also very empirical speech, that is to say he backed it up with statistics, with information about this rising tide of anti-Semitism, not just in Europe, but in the United States and Canada as well.
He pointed out, for example, according to their data, 17 percent of Americans are showing real anti -Semitic beliefs, and the ugliness of it. Sadly, among Latinos and African Americans, it is about 35 percent. He pointed out in Europe, in the aggregate, the anti -Semitism was about 30 percent of the population.
Dr. Shimon Samuels also spoke, who is the Director of the Wiesenthal Center in Paris. He too gave a very impassioned and very documented talk. He made the point that the slippery slope from hate speech to hate crime is clear. Seventy-two hours after the close of the Durban hate-fest, its virulence struck at the strategic and financial centers of the United States. He pointed out, "If Durban was Mein Kampf, than 9/11 was Kristalnacht, a warning."
"What starts with the Jews is a measure, an alarm signaling impending danger for global stability. The new anti -Semitic alliance is bound up with anti -Americanism under the cover of so-called anti –globalization."
He also testified and said, "The Holocaust for 30 years acted as a protective Teflon against blatant anti -Semitic expression. That Teflon has eroded, and what was considered distasteful and politically incorrect is becoming simply an opinion. But cocktail chatter at fine English dinners," he said, "can end as Molotov cocktails against synagogues.
"Political correctness is also eroding for others, as tolerance for multi-culturism gives way to populous voices in France, Italy, Austria, Denmark, Portugal, and in the Netherlands. These countries' Jewish communities can be caught between the rock of radical Islamic violence and the hard place of a revitalized Holocaust-denying extreme right.
"Common cause", he concluded, "must be sought between the victimized minorities against extremism and fascism."
I would point out to my colleagues one of those who spoke pointed out, it was Professor Julius Schoeps, that he has found that people do not say "I am anti -Semitic;" they just say "I do not like Jews", a distinction without a difference, and, unfortunately, it is rearing itself in one ugly attack after another.
I would point out in that Berlin very recently, two New Jersey yeshiva students, after they left synagogue, they left prayer, there was an anti -American, anti -Israeli demonstration going on, and they were asked repeatedly, are you Jews? Are you Jews? And then the fists started coming their way and they were beaten right there in Berlin.
Let me finally say, Mr. Speaker, that yesterday we also passed a supplementary item at our OSCE Parliamentary Assembly. I was proud to be the principal sponsor. The gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Cardin) offered a couple of strengthening amendments during the course of that debate, and we presented a united force, a U.S. force against anti-Semitism.
I would just point out this resolution now hopefully will act in concert with other expressions to wake up Europe. We cannot sit idly by. If we do not say anything, if we do not speak out, we allow the forces of hate to gain a further foothold. Again, that passed yesterday as well.
Mr. Speaker, I urge Members to become much more aware that this ugliness is rearing its ugly face, not just in the United States, but Canada, in Europe, and we have to put to an end to it. Hate speech and hate crimes go hand in hand.
Mr. Speaker, I urge support of the resolution.
United States Helsinki Commission–Anti -Semitism in the OSCE Region
The Delegations of Germany and the United States will hold a side event to highlight the alarming escalation of anti -Semitic violence occurring throughout the OSCE region.
All Heads of Delegations have been invited to attend, as well as media and NGOs.
The United States delegation has introduced a supplementary item condemning anti -Semitic violence. The Resolution urges Parliamentary Assembly participants to speak out against anti-Semitism.


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Here are a few questions that regularly appear in my inbox. These particular questions bug me because I think folks should know better. And I'm feeling rather grumpy this rainy morning. So I thought I'd write a grumpy post.
Can you sell me a fork for my frame?
No; we don't make custom forks and using stock replacement forks on a frame is often a mistake, which is why we don't sell them. The frame's designer, presumably, sweated bullets to get the handling of your frame just so. Now you want to install a fork that has different trail and a different length. If you change the rake, you'll change the handling. Some folks understand the way that works, but most don't. If the fork legs are longer or shorter you'll change the slope of the top tube. I know I'm a perfectionist and you are free to disregard my advice because of it, but if you need a new fork get one from a local frame builder, a frame builder who can actually measure your frame.
I know you say that fenders need at least 8-10mm of clearance, but I really want to run 32mm tires in 36mm fenders; is that OK?
No! Never! If you don't have enough fender clearance, little twigs and pebbles will get caught between you fender and tire. At best this is an annoyance, at worst something will get jammed between the tire and fork crown, stopping the front wheel and sending you skidding face first along the pavement. Proper fender clearance is far more important that the current fad to jam the largest possible tire into every frame. Only those with the most sensitive behinds will be truly bothered by the difference in ride between a 28mm and 32mm tire, but most everyone will find having their nose planed off by rough pavement to be a major inconvenience.
Can I run 42mm Hetre tires with 52mm Zeppelin fenders?
Of course you can. Hetres are only 40mm wide in real life and 12mm of clearance is fine.
Do you still have any NOS (fill in some obscure part we sold three years ago)?
Sorry; everything we sell is on our web site. I have some funny ideas about business; one of them is that we actually sell things that we have in stock, down to the last one.
There. I feel better now ;<)
22 April, 2009
Grumpy Post
Posted by Velo Orange at 9:55:00 AM
62 comments:
- Anonymous said...
Grant? Is that you?
- Greg said...
Haha, nice post.
By the way, do you have any NOS 36mm fenders that will fit a 32mm tire? - 4/22/09, 10:55 AM
- Rick @ Bicycle Fixation said...
- Bob Jones said...
you are arrogant and condescending. I have no reason to buy from you anymore. You must learn to kiss the donkey of every customer no matter what you may think of yourself.
- KILROY said...
I admire your honesty and integrity. I may purchase an item from someone who will sells me something I don't really need, but mistakenly want. But I won't be a repeat customer. - 4/22/09, 11:11 AM
- baldsue said...
Yay! I'm not the only grump today!
- Kathryn Hall said...
Bob, Thank you for the best laugh I've had all week.
Donkey Kisser
Eugene, OR - 4/22/09, 11:48 AM
- Anonymous said...
so 'nose planing' is bad, but 'planing' is good?
- Joel said...
Funny post, grumpy or not.
Having been lucky enough to pick up some of those swell NOS components you sold in the early days, I somewhat empathize with people who bug you about it.
In the end the customers need to realize that even in the day, bike fans recognized the value of Pelissier hubs, Ideale saddles, and TA everything. The odds of any such products sitting around new and unused decreases geometrically every year. - 4/22/09, 12:11 PM
- Anonymous said...
You really need to work on your grumpy, you'll never reach cable tv with a schtick like this.
Scott G. - 4/22/09, 12:30 PM
- clyde sdale said...
Are there any documented cases of tight fender clearance actually causing actual accidents, or is this just a theoretical issue like standover? If so, was it slicks or knobbies, on road or off?
If there are maybe I should stop running fenders with just enough room to spin the wheel, but it's hard to picture a road slick carrying anything big and solid enough to jam the wheel all the way around to the fork crown. - 4/22/09, 12:50 PM
- Anonymous said...
clyde sdale - This has been covered ad nauseum on various internet forums. Yes, there are documented cases. I have two friends whose front fenders were crumpled by small sticks: between them, one broken nose, two broken arms, and two trashed forks. In both cases it was a heavy duty steel touring fork. Neither was using break-away clips at the time; both now do.
- Velo Orange said...
Crashes happen when stuff gets caught in fenders. It's not theoretical. I've come very close on two occasions when sticks jammed between the fender and road tire. Both times I was on a trail with lots of leaves and sticks on the ground. It's probably much rarer on clean paved roads, but still...
I tighten the R-clips just enough to hold the stays, no more. That way the stay might pull out if something gets caught. - 4/22/09, 1:10 PM
- kilroy said...
I went over my handlebars when a rock or twig became lodged between my front wheel and fender. The fender folded in on itself and it ruined my night. This happened once, when I was younger and it won't happen again.....hopefully.
- Anonymous said...
y'know, this stick in the fendir busyness is kinda like all those people who are always goin on t'me bout my drivin hammered, and all the "theoretically increased chances" of me havin an acidint. I never had no problem withit.
- Joseph said...
Can you recommend a fork builder in the DC area?
- Joseph said...
Also, is there a reason the blog appears in French?
- Anonymous said...
Chris, I understand about the forks.
A few years back we needed a new fork
for our 1978 Mercian tandem, but
Mercian did not have the frame angles
and measurements on file, so I had
to carefully measure everything from
head angle to fork rake and trail
and email the info to Mercian.
I used a magnetic protractor to
measure head angle and plumb bobs to
help measure the rake and trail. It
took a fair amount of time and care
to do it right.
Preston - 4/22/09, 1:52 PM
- keithwwalker said...
I was all ready to brag about my tight fender line on my bike - 50mm tires and 52mm VO fenders! - 4/22/09, 2:04 PM
- Andy "What?" M-S said...
Sound effects:
Rass-a-frassa-#$! - 4/22/09, 2:42 PM
- Anonymous said...
maybe Cris is practicing to take over for the late Dr Gene Scott. Start the rant slow, show some beautiful background images, light up the cigar then, wham, dis those non believers into ordering all those things they really dont need. AKA, I like being in the cult and getting the products. our new 650b retro grouch tandem will be outfitted front to rear with many fine VO products such as cable pulleys, modernist cages, Ostrich bags, bell, decaleur, honjo fenders (50 on 42's - maybe I should run naked but the master says they are only 40 so okay.) Ranting is not the same as arrogant and condescending. Ranting is when you get it off your chest. Arrogant and Condescending is when you say "I am closing the blog and the store if you don't want what I have. Chris has every right to run the store any way he wants to and as far as I can see has gone way out of his way to find interesting, functional, oddball bits that Trekondalemongooseiant does not supply. So I can only say rant on Chris, it is your living room as some say, and say a polite thank you to those who do appreciate your efforts and endeavors. And I will make sure I have washed my donkey before I ask you to kiss it. what a show of love.
- Unknown said...
Personally, I think the tire/fender questions are especially silly -- your guidelines for fender sizing are very clearly spelled out, why would people wonder if you'd give a different answer when they ask "pretty please"?
In fairness, the fork point is very well taken, but not one I would have immediately thought of. Lots of people do sell forks independent of frames (though generally they are only custom builders or larger companies, so vendors dealing in different stuff than you).
I think you strike a very good balance between education and modesty, sharing your understanding of bikes and biking without preaching, something that Grant (that was a low blow, #1) often misses IMHO. - 4/22/09, 2:55 PM
- robatsu said...
A stick will get spun up into your fender if you ride over enough of them. It then jams against the stay, which bends, drawing the fender into the tire, which stops forward motion.
It isn't necessarily the stick getting jammed against the tire, but the stick jamming between the stay and tire, which then leverages the much more stout fender to act as a brake pad.
If you have a mud flap, this tends to increase the odds of this happening, as sticks/debris that otherwise would be ejected rearward by the tires motion bounce off of it and back into the tire, sort of a funnelling effect.
The odds also increase the faster you are going.
This isn't theorizing, but practical experience. As a result, I tend to avoid riding fast over patches of leaves as well, as therein lies the stick demon.
Not a major hassle, but basic bicycle safety and something everyone should be aware of if you are riding around with fenders, especially on woodsy trails w/lots of debris. - 4/22/09, 3:38 PM
- Ian Dickson said...
Chris, could you sell me a frame for my fork?
- Anonymous said...
I believe I once emailed you about getting a fork. It is very difficult to find a good, steel replacement fork! In fact I never did find one. That frame is still forkless, hanging sadly in my shed, unusable.
- Anonymous said...
will you build me a frame around my fork?
- Anonymous said...
Lots of outfits sell forks without frames. *Lots* of them. It's just hard to find steel ones with 1" steer tubes. I thought maybe, given VO's excellent reputation for finding and selling hard-to-find bicycle parts, there was a chance y'all might be interested in selling some with 1" steer tubes. Sorry to ruin your day. It must be my knucklehead mountain bike experience making me so obtuse. Shoot, we swap mountain bike forks all the time, without crashing and bursting into flames, but that's just 'cause we don't know any better.
You seem to value the feedback you get from some of us, but don't want to have to wade through all the comments from us unwashed types to get to the stuff you want. Kind of hard to feel sorry for ya. This is the innernets, after all. I won't be bothering you with my comments any more, or any more orders. It's been fun. Thanks. - 4/22/09, 7:12 PM
- Anonymous said...
And another thing. I understand trail at least as well as most frame builders. I have lots of bikes, with lots of different trail numbers. I have determined that it is of little consequence to me exactly how much trail a given bike has. Pretty much all bikes have what can be described as medium trail. Really low and really high trail bikes are rare. Yes I can tell the difference, but it is not important to me.
Mountain bikers are well aware that putting a 5" travel fork on a bike designed for a 3" fork is usually a bad idea, and vice versa. Many of us understand why. Road bikes are very simple machines to an experienced mountain bike mechanic. - 4/22/09, 7:32 PM
- Le Cagot said...
Annon, So you're pissed because Chris won't make just any fork for for just any bike. And you know better. Trail doesn't matter? Mountain bikes can switch forks so that means rando bikes can to? You're unwashed? Okay. That all makes perfect sense.
- Dad said...
Anon, I kind of agree with you that subtle differences in rake etc. don't really matter on most road bikes. Granted, if you're racing in an audax race or Paris-Roubaix, it would matter quite a bit.
Anyhow, one place to get a 650b or 700c steel fork with a crown is Kogswell. Matthew the owner is a little spacey but he's a first-class guy. I don't think he really cares too much whether it's going on a Kogswell frame or not, if you ask nicely.
I think he's got 'em in both threaded and unthreaded, and you can choose from a couple of different rakes. They're just Taiwanese but they have a nice traditional crown.
At any rate, I swapped in one of their high-rake forks and it made a huge difference. - 4/22/09, 8:00 PM
- Anonymous said...
I had a front fender crumple on me a year or two ago. It wasn't a tight clearance, either. It just happened. I wasn't hurt, somehow, but I knew as it happened I could be about to die. I didn't have breakaway clips, and never realized how crucial they are for safety. They really matter, folks.
another time I had a shoe go into the fork (long story), and I did go down hard and shattered the collarbone. These things happen if you spend a lot of time on a bike. - 4/22/09, 8:00 PM
- Anonymous said...
As Yehuda Moon would(n't) say: "Another reason why I don't ride with fenders".
As for the fork issue, what if you break a fork on an otherwise perfectly good steel frame, then what? - 4/22/09, 8:34 PM
- Anonymous said...
I'm not "pissed because Chris won't make a fork" for me. I come from an automotive background, with a lot of racing back in the day. I have made major modifications to cars and motorcycles that greatly improved their handling. I have been messing with bikes pretty seriously for twenty years now. I have consistently said that trail is not a big deal *to me.* When all this trail debate came up, I dusted off the math part of my mind and investigated. Made lots of measurements, read everything I could find on the matter, and so on. I understand steering and suspension geometry really well because I have designed my own. The fact that I asked a question about maybe getting a fork seems to have set Chris off. Fine. It's his blog, his store, his enterprise entirely. He certainly does not need me. I will say it is probably not a great idea to assume someone is clueless just because they say things you don't agree with.
Thanks, David, for the tip on the Kogswell fork. I have heard that before, and I've been to the site and played with the trail calculator a lot, but I have not seen any information about forks being available for sale. Maybe I will check into it.
I personally think the whole trail thing and the planing idea is in the "princess and the pea" realm, but of course most people reading this will decide I am an idiot for saying something like that. - 4/22/09, 8:54 PM
- Furious and Fast said...
And I was wondering which deep-v carbon fiber aero rims, carbon fiber spokes, carbon fiber seatpost, carbon fiber cranks, carbon fiber bottom bracket, carbon fiber headset, carbon fiber stem, carbon fiber pedals, carbon fiber bars, AND carbon fiber seat would look good with my butterfly-wing light carbon fiber frame and carbon fiber fork. Since this bike will be a 53 x 11 fixie, no brakes, derailers, or brains are needed.
- Garth said...
I'm sympathetic to the gent desiring a fork. He was just asking, and as it turns out, he even knows what he's talking about.
Having been a person that needed to replace the crummy fork on my crummy threadless Jamis, I sympathize even more.
I'd also thought of Kogswell, particularly how you can choose between the three forks to achieve your desired ride.
Chris is aware of the ramifications of different forks, as should be the buyer, to avoid trouble. Apparently he's annoyed that most people who write him are not.
Here in Chicago I often see poor people riding old bicycles with forks bent very amazingly far back, like several inches. They don't ride very fast, but I think they probably (out of necessity) ride more than I do. Sometimes I also see bikes with the fork and handlebars turned around 180 degrees. This is to get the flipped up drop bars closer to the rider. They also usually ride pretty slowly.
Waterford sells nice custom forks for about $250.00, I think. Or Jitensha Studios.
Good Luck!
Garth - 4/22/09, 10:37 PM
- Ev said...
Oh no!!! A small business owner has irritations.
Big deal. Spend a day at your LBS and see if they don't say some of the same things. The only bike sellers that don't have personalities are Nashbar and Performance.
But good luck finding a decaleur, porteur rack, well-made Brooks alternative or Belleville bar over there ... - 4/23/09, 2:14 AM
- Velo Orange said...
Anon, You must feel pretty damn self important. I get about 3 questions about forks per week. But you seem certain that I'm referring to your particular question. (Yet you won't even sign your comment.)
As I said, feel free to ignore my advice. VO won't sell replacement forks, but others will. Trail and proper handling may not be a big deal to you, but it is to us. We also won't sell carbon frames, toasters, handlebar streamers, umbrellas, suspension seat posts...
So please go buy a fork elsewhere. Obviously your mountain bike mechanic and automotive experience give you the knowledge to choose wisely.
Sheesh! It's no wonder I get grumpy. - 4/23/09, 7:10 AM
- Steve said...
Chris said:
So please go buy a fork elsewhere. Obviously your mountain bike mechanic and automotive experience give you the knowledge to choose wisely.
And in honor of the day, let me add this little amendment: "Get thee away, and take thy beagles with thee." - 4/23/09, 8:00 AM
- Anonymous said...
I agree with Robatsu. After all, one could argue that tight spacing between tire and fender could actually prevent larger objects (likely to cause bigger problems) from entering the fender well. The problem is not fender/tire spacing, but rather the fact of having a fender on the bike in the first place (especially over the front wheel). By the way, where does one find breakaway clips?
- Anonymous said...
I am not a big fan anymore of the GP tone in blogs. VO can be a pleasant experience of the interpersonal civility of exchange in the best retail stores when communicating face-to-face.
This series of comments includes some of the more confrontational and personal comments I have seen--ones that are closer to the abrasive anonymity that seems the net norm. Perhaps that norm has an inevitable gravitational pull, but I enjoy VO's blog most for its norm subverting civility. - 4/23/09, 9:07 AM
- robatsu said...
I wasn't arguing for tight fender clearances, just describing one common failure mode. I agree with the standard clearance prescriptions and having good clearance does prevent some problems, both large and minor.
But you do make a point that riding with a fender does increase some the risk of some hazards on a bike. OTOH, it may reduce others by reducing wear and tear on the bike, rider fatigue by being sprayed by water for 50 miles, etc.
These days, our society tends to go berzerk over the most minor of risks. This is no reason for most people to shun fenders, it isn't at the risk level of the first wave at Tarawa or anything.
Just avoid riding over road debris, and you'll be ok. - 4/23/09, 9:09 AM
- Linden said...
Let me cast a vote for something that without a doubt you must have considered... get rid of the anonymous comment option. I want to say "Seriously, come on guys", but its never gonna stop.
I enjoy the opinions and reading the good and bad, but you owe nothing to someone who can't sign their name to their words.
Cheers and Thank you,
- Joel said...
Chicago is not yet Portland with a custom bike builder on every corner, but there are at least two that I can think of.
Chicago bike owners considering a new fork may be well advised to look one up and bring the bike by in person.
To Chris' point, a competent builder who can actually see the bike and rider will be in a better position to judge the appropriate angle and trail of the custom fork. - 4/23/09, 10:10 AM
- jamesmallon said...
So sorry I needed a new steel fork for my steel bike that came with a carbon fork. So sorry I wanted to throw more business your way; I have made several previous orders. So sorry I'd ask for parts you used to carry, because I thought I'd give you some money for them if, like other shops, you often had old things about the shop.
So sorry I've taken you out of my bookmarked shops, because your attitude to customers is too haughty to put up with. - 4/23/09, 10:13 AM
- Anonymous said...
I have not purchased anything from Peter White since he made a flaming ass of himself on the old Riv list. I was not involved, only a lurker, but it was disgusting. The list was shut down soon thereafter, and I suspect it was because that was preferable to kicking out a Riv dealer. Good luck!
- Joel said...
Still not buying your take on this.
As the blog entry says, Chris is not responding to a one off request. Rather he gets these all the times.
VO does not advertise forks for sale. Seems a stretch to expect someone just is willing to take on a whole line of business on the basis of an e-mail.
Likewise with the NOS. As I said above, I was lucky enough to get some NOS from VO back in the day. VO is a lot bigger operation than those days. Moreover, there is a lot less NOS stuff out there. As much as I like adding to my collection of vintage bike hardware, it never occurs to me that perhaps VO would be willing to surrender that piece they are harding if ask in just the right way.
It stands to reason a merchant will get annoyed at some point if people keep asking for items the merchant does not sell. - 4/23/09, 11:05 AM
- Joel said...
oops, meant to say hording.
- Joel said...
"The list was shut down soon thereafter, and I suspect it was because that was preferable to kicking out a Riv dealer."
Interesting spin. To this day, the Riv site refers would be bike lighting customers to Peter White. - 4/23/09, 11:09 AM
- NatMc said...
Man, there's no question: get rid of the anonymous comment option. if you post anonymously, you are the poster child for cowardice. it's basically internet road rage: you honk, swear, then speed away before anyone can have anything even remotely resembling human contact with you. why would you even want to be any more anonymous than we already are in this computer-world we've created!
hats off to you grumpy Chris, not only do you reveal yourself, but you write your own, deeply felt opinions. even if people don't like them, it's a hell of a lot more transparency than they will ever get from any other company. i for one enjoy the commentary.
but seriously people: i'm stressing out about my fenders. can someone please explain exactly what these breakaway clips are and where i can get them? i've got planet bike freddy fenders on the bike now. i loosened up the stay-securing nuts as chris suggested so that hopefully the stays will pull out and let the fender move up and away from the tire in an emergency. I also thought to myself: that plastic brake-bridge bracket on the back fender might work on the front to be more likely to break than the metal bracket that is currently there. Maybe I can get another one of those? - 4/23/09, 11:29 AM
- Steve said...
Here's a picture of the SKS breakaway clip: http://www.sks-germany.com/images/product/rimg3/rimg3_Chromo3.jpg
Basically, it's a plastic wedge with a couple of holes for the fender stays and a hole for the screw attaching it to the fork eyelet. The stays are just stuck into the holes in the plastic wedge, and are held in by friction. If the fender is pulled backwards, the stays come out of the clip.
Probably the most use you'll make of such a thing is when mounting the bike on a roof rack of the type that has a long tray connecting the front and rear attachments. Fenders always interfere with those trays, and with a breakaway clip you can unhook the stays and pull the fender out of the way.
It won't work with metal fenders; on the other hand, you generally don't need them with metal fenders, since the fender is stiff enough to resist crumpling if a stick does get in there. - 4/23/09, 11:40 AM
- robatsu said...
I crumpled a Berthoud front fender - these are pretty stout - some years ago when one of those dreadful sticks flipped into the spokes, did a jamup against the stays and brought everything to a fairly abrupt halt.
The bike wasn't going anywhere without setting up an impromptu metal shop, beating/bending stuff back into place.
Although I've had a couple of incidents, I think the risk is overstated - I'm a lot more worried about getting creamed by a motor vehicle or wiping out on some surprise gravel/sand, and other hazards.
Nonetheless, there is probably a good case for some sort of quick release/breakaway device so long as it doesn't add lots of complexity, cost alot, substantially diminish the fender form/function, or introduce other failure modes.
Chris proposes not tightening clamps too hard. I'm ambivalent about this solution - I like any fender nuts/bolts to be firmly snugged down to prevent anything vibrating loose. Losing fender hardware on a ride is at best an annoyance and a suddenly loose fender flopping around could cause other more serious problems. I suppose if you run a stud from the inside of the eyelet and use nyloc nuts, that would work.
Another thing that helps is to try to set your fender clearance so that it does not decrease, if possible increases slightly, in the direction of wheel rotation. That way, if something is small enough to make it through the entry portal, it is less likely to become jammed and will tend to be swept out by the wheel rotation. This definitely reduces the incidence of irritating leaves/twigs, at a minimum.
One more recommendation is that if you are riding where you really depend on the bike to get you home, pack enough tools so that you can completely remove a mangled fender. Just a few small items that are generally useful elsewhere, might not need them for years, but pretty invaluable when you do.
The other credible fender failure mode is fatigue. During routine maintenance, it is worth giving your fenders a little scrutiny once in a while around the mounting points, see if any cracks are developing.
None of this is anything to get in a real lather about, but if you do a lot of unpaved riding probably warrants a little extra attention.
And I agree w/banning anonymous users and hats off to Chris to giving the public an unvarnished look inside the sausage factory.
As a closing thought on flame wars, one general principle that is often ignored by interwebs users is, "never argue with an idiot because people watching may not be able to tell the difference". - 4/23/09, 12:23 PM
- Dad said...
Perhaps, if Rivendell refers people to Peter White for lights, VO could just refer people to some place for forks! Seems like a lot of grumping is revolving around forks.
Hey, can I totally hijack the thread and talk of happy things: since VO doesn't offer the Coast/bespoke randonneuse frames any more, I was thinking of having one made up by Jeff Lyon. Anyone have any experience there? - 4/23/09, 12:29 PM
- Garth said...
I like Jeff Lyon's website.
I was glad to see Chris get grumpy and did not take it personally.
James Mallon has a valid point, and quite frankly, I'd like to see a requirement that people use their names.
I order things for my ancient Volkswagen and will occasionally ask for certain unlisted parts. Sometimes they have them, or reference my in the correct direction.
Being a teacher, I certainly become annoyed with parents, but find it unprofessional to rant at them.
Sure, it's Chris's website, business, blog- or is it? Doe the tree falling in the forest make a noise if no one is there?
Everyone has a right to be grumpy every once in a while, but don't expect too many people to come to your party if it's a regular thing. (not saying it is...)
Thing is, people don't just buy stuff for the object, they buy stuff for the experience. So, I like to think of this whole thing as mutually participative. Which, I think is a big reason Chris started it.
I recently wrote Jon Peter White the twentieth an email and received a rather slightly curmudgeon response. I've yet to finish the order.
Let's get rid of anonymous posting and check the egos!
Garth - 4/24/09, 12:23 AM
- Dad said...
Garth, agreed that JPW is curmudgeonly. Also, ordering things from his store is a major pain in the neck. Lastly, one time, I purchased a wheel from him; it tacoed on the first ride and he refused to stand behind it! That wasn't my favorite phone call.
I totally agree that it is the experience as much as the product. That even pertains to VO. Or so it seems to me. Some of the products that I adored have simply disappeared. It was fun that people could write in and basically have things custom made for them, like that fellow with the collar for his track bike. While initially I found it very sweet to join in the experience, I guess one inevitable price of growth is that it has become a bit more generic -- the products don't seem to stand nearly as far from the mainstream as they once did. I could be wrong; it's just a feeling. And I well understand that it is almost impossible to keep that feeling in a rapid growth environment. - 4/24/09, 1:31 PM
- Ian Dickson said...
In defense of PJW, it does say on his site that the telephone is the best way to place an order. I've ordered from them twice, by phone, and both times it was pleasant and very easy.
- Joel said...
My experience with PJW have been quite positive.
PJW's is a small operation. PJW is the primary U.S. supplier for several high end German light companies, Pitlock, Tout bicycles, and a couple other items.
Along with individual customer orders, PJW handles local bike store orders, maintenance questions and warranty issues.
I guess he could Bike Nashbar and hire minimum wage internet correspondents to sell volume generic stuff. The minimum wage kids could give a swell 'buyer experience' (whatever the heck that is) but the buyer would just be getting junk everyone else has.
As it is, I appreciate the unique items he has sold to me, and the assistance he has provided my LBS with lighting and bike security issues.
I guess we would need details on the broken wheel, as PJW's site insists they come with a life time warranty. - 4/24/09, 5:02 PM
- Joel said...
"Some of the products that I adored have simply disappeared."
David: I have been here pretty much from the beginning.
The NOS stuff disappeared. Well within reason. The factories that made the NOS stuff are either closed or changed markedly since their glory days. How could VO get more when sources do not exist?
The Amish baskets are no more, but my understanding is the family that made them could no longer ship. - 4/24/09, 5:05 PM
- Anonymous said...
Dear Chris,
Sorry to hear about your grumpytimes.
I won't add to your vexations by asking for a fork. I understand why you do not want to sell them.
I was however wondering if you would think about just selling us the VO frames unpainted and without ANY braze-ons ? Then none of us oh-so-picky customers would get their panties all in a knot over such incredibly important details like the chainstay cable stop braze-ons, or the make-or-break / all-or-nothing decision-killing downtube stops and /or headtube extensions.
You could be like Cino Cinelli and tell everyone that braze-ons might potentially cause weak points on the frame. In order to satisfy everyone you could simply have a variety of clamp-on cable stops and guides made so that the BUYER can make all of the AGONIZINGLY difficult decisions such as full cable housing for the rear brake, or two cable stops.
Think about how much better this might work and how much it might improve the "customer experience".
It would also be easier for the factory and you because there would be less to go wrong with the fabrication. And just like back in the 1970's and 80's, when the customer takes her bike to eventually get re-painted THEN they can get any and all braze-ons done exactly as they want them. No more knotted up panties for VO customers, and you'll make a fortune on selling replacement decals and cable stops. Charge the same as a full painted and brazed-on one. Oh hell, charge MORE for giving them less - (J)IvyLeague Business Schools will fall all over themselves trying to award you an honarary MBA.
It's a big WIN-WIN for everyone !
Please cue up that old Devo song: "Freedom of Choice" in the background ! - 4/25/09, 6:11 PM
- Anonymous said...
I posted this earlier:
"I believe I once emailed you about getting a fork. It is very difficult to find a good, steel replacement fork! In fact I never did find one. That frame is still forkless, hanging sadly in my shed, unusable."
I am not the same "Anon" who posted more about forks later, though I too understand geometric trail, rake, etc. I certainly have no ill feelings toward Chris for not selling just a fork by itself. In fact he was just one of many people I contacted at the time trying to find a decent fork, and I've bought plenty of products from VO since then and will continue to do so, with enthusiasm!
The original fork on this particular bike had an average trail measurement, but heaps of tire clearance at the crown. The aftermarket forks I found at the time all had very little clearance. Not only would this have prevented me from using the tires I wanted and fenders of any sort, but it would have also increased the already steep head angle even more. I should also add that I feel a high-rake fork would have likely improved the stability of this bike's handling, particularly with a handlebar bag which I had planned to use on it. Not matter though, because shortly after that I found a high end early 80s touring bike that worked out considerably nicer than the other bike would have. It even has a mere 38mm of trail. :D Although I do still have a decent frame longing for a nice fork hanging in my barn. ;)
-Ben - 4/26/09, 5:06 PM
- Steve said...
david_nj said:
Garth, agreed that JPW is curmudgeonly. Also, ordering things from his store is a major pain in the neck. Lastly, one time, I purchased a wheel from him; it tacoed on the first ride and he refused to stand behind it!
My experience couldn't be more different. I find Peter wonderful to deal with, and buying things from his store is as easy as buying from Velo Orange. I have two sets of wheels of his, both at around 10,000 mi and both perfect, never needed even the slightest touch of a spoke wrench.
What makes a wheel taco on the first ride? - 4/27/09, 6:02 PM
- Tom said...
get offa my lawn!
- Patrick McMahon said...
I'm not sure if this will make you grumpy, but until just a month ago you had the Basil Memphis Pannier's listed and I've been wanting to buy one.
Now they're gone and I'm not sure if it's a temporary shortage or if you're not going to carry them anymore.
If you've discontinued them then I'll buy them on the Web but I'd rather buy them from someone (relatively) local.
Thanks. - 6/11/09, 8:35 PM

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From improving financial aid to cultivating leaders who value different people and viewpoints, the Princeton University conference "Diversity on Campus: Practices, Policies and Culture" examined a spectrum of ways to promote diversity within higher education.
"If we knew there was one solution, we would have done it and we wouldn't be here today," said panelist Cecilia Rouse, dean of Princeton's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. "All of these different institutions, they all have different challenges."
The Dec. 13 event, which was free and open to the public, brought academic administrators, scholars and policymakers from across the country to the Friend Center auditorium. Princeton President Shirley M. Tilghman and Provost Christopher Eisgruber each moderated panels.
The Trustee Ad Hoc Committee on Diversity sponsored the conference as it works to identify ways to enhance the diversity of Princeton's faculty, graduate student body and senior administration. Tilghman appointed the group this past January to build upon Princeton's achievements in creating a vibrant campus community, such as the increased socioeconomic, racial and ethnic diversity of undergraduate students.
"This conference has really helped us move the ball forward," said committee co-chair Brent Henry, a Princeton trustee and member of the Class of 1969. "It has given us a true launching pad to go forward with some solutions that we really had not thought about before, and more importantly, ways to implement those solutions."
In leading a talk on promoting success in diverse environments, Tilghman noted how concepts of discrimination have changed over the past 40 years.
"When I was a student, I think we all understood discrimination as something that was visible, palpable and easily identifiable, and that created strategies for how to respond to discrimination," Tilghman said. "It strikes me that one of the most important things that scholars like yourselves are learning … is that it is much more unconscious than we ever believed.
"What are the implications for universities like this one that is so self-consciously trying to be an institution where diversity can really flourish?" she added.
Spelman College President Beverly Daniel Tatum offered a direct way to tackle bias: Talk about it.
"When you raise people's consciousness about something, they may still fall into that trap but it's less likely to happen," she said.
Tatum said her overarching theme for fostering diversity follows the ABCs of "affirming identity, building community and cultivating leadership."
"I sometimes use the example of a photograph. … If we think about the university as a photograph, when you enter this space, you are looking for yourself in it," Tatum said. "But if every time you [gather for a group photo], the people on the edges get left out of the picture, they are not going to want to participate in that group photo. You only want to participate in the picture if you are certain you are going to be included in a positive way."
As the conversation turned to employing faculty and staff of varied backgrounds, panelists agreed that much rested with leaders, whether college presidents, department chairs or lab managers.
"The leadership piece is really key for articulating the value of diversity and the idea that we are all responsible for creating a workplace where everyone can succeed," said Stanford University sociology professor Shelley Correll.
David Thomas, dean and chair of Georgetown University's McDonough School of Business, said managers should recruit diverse applicant pools and then evaluate all applicants — regardless of race and gender — with the same high standards. He added that mentoring is crucial for retaining faculty and staff, as well as for inspiring students of color and women to study in academic fields where they may be underrepresented.
Audience member Jessica Rowland Williams, a Spelman alumna and fifth-year doctoral student in Princeton's molecular biology department, said it's also important to have encouragement from peers, friends and family.
"When you are the first person in your family to go to graduate school, it can be hard if you don't feel like there really is a support system there," she said.
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During an afternoon panel on diversity and higher education policy, Eisgruber asked how universities could better support diversity.
Rouse, who also is the Lawrence and Shirley Katzman and Lewis and Anna Ernst Professor in the Economics of Education, cited Princeton's 2001 adoption of a no-loan financial aid program as a major initiative.
"I think that says from the top, we really mean it. We don't want family means to be a barrier to coming to Princeton. That is an institutional message," Rouse said. "But it's got to filter down to the little tiny decisions that get made every day in the classroom and at the department level."
Deborah Santiago, co-founder and vice president for policy and research at Excelencia in Education, said it's also about financial literacy — helping students and families navigate the complexities of applying for federal and private financial aid.
"It's not only access, but retention. We think we got [students] in [to college], but did they get through and graduate?" Santiago added.
Thoughts on education policy quickly turned to the U.S. Supreme Court case Fisher v. University of Texas. The group debated how the court might rule on the case challenging the University of Texas-Austin's affirmative action admissions policy.
No matter how it's resolved, Emory University Provost Earl Lewis said universities and colleges should continue to find ways to value and foster diverse campus communities.
"If the court strikes down University of Texas, I hope the [higher education] community does not overact. This is a long fight and we should take the long view. Where do we want to be in 25 or 30 years?" said Lewis, who also is president-elect of the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation.
Questions from the audience prompted panelists to agree that there need to be better connections between higher education and K-12 in order to prompt more diversity in all pipelines.
"We need to think about K-16," Rouse said.
Earlier in the day, the conference featured a presentation by University of Michigan professor Scott Page on "The Benefits and Costs of Diversity in Colleges and Universities." It was followed by a panel on "Creating a Diverse Campus" that included Danielle Allen, a Princeton trustee and member of the Class of 1993 and UPS Foundation Professor at the Institute for Advanced Study; Dwight McBride, associate provost and dean of the Graduate School at Northwestern University; Marta Tienda, the Maurice P. During '22 Professor in Demographic Studies at Princeton; and Virginia Zakian, the Harry C. Wiess Professor in the Life Sciences at Princeton.
Deborah Prentice, co-chair of the trustee committee on diversity and conference organizer, said the event's exchange of ideas was fascinating.
"It raised new questions, as well as gave us some good thoughts for programs we may want to implement here," said Prentice, the Alexander Stewart 1886 Professor of Psychology and Public Affairs.
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Ajax, Ontario, Canada
Canadians won't be voting for the next president of the United States, but Dolores took advantage of a Netsaver fare to spread international goodwill on behalf of the party. "I just adore Canadians," she said during a roadside address to a crowd of three at a busy crossing in Ajax. "You're industrious, you're polite, you appreciate good wool and you put beer on your breakfast cereal. What's not to love?"
Sacramento, California
A loyal Fibertarian in the California capital snagged this shot of the candidate's motorcade as she prepared to tour the city and curry favor with the natives by tossing handfuls of Pall Mall cigarettes into the throng.
Indianapolis, Indiana
When Dolores paid a surprise call on a typical American family in the heart of the Heartland, their excitement was overwhelming.
Hong Kong, China
Understanding full well that China's emerging power is a force to be reckoned with, Dolores visited the nerve center of the country's economy. "If I were an American," said a local official, "this is the candidate I would support. She is head and shoulders above the crowd."
Sioux City, Iowa
Even her opponents admit that Dolores knows her way around the legal system. In Sioux City, she playfully ruled on several cases at the federal courthouse before the marshal managed to chew through the ropes and spoil the fun.
Cologne, Minnesota
During a visit to this charming corner of Minnesota, Dolores partied with her power base at Whistling Winds Farm.
Chicago, Illinois
During a whistle stop in her home city, Dolores garnered the endorsement of the powerful Future Knitters of America lobby.
Jacksonville, Florida
Although securing of world peace is way up there on the candidate's to-do list, she was proud to pose with this symbol of American military preparedness. "I want our men and women in uniform to know I am right behind them," said she said. "And I'm willing to get on top of them, too, if that's what they'd prefer."
Mountain Park, Georgia
When it comes to supporting environmentalism, even Al Gore has nothing on Dolores. Here, she communes with nature in one of Georgia's garden spots. "I take great pride," she said, "in noting that I, myself, am at least 80% biodegradable. Top that, McCain."
Tallahassee, Florida
At Really Knit Stuff, Dolores revealed her vision of the Local Yarn Store as the new backbone of America's economy. "In the nation we will create," she wrote, "there will be yarn on every corner, and a skein in every dye pot."
Austin, Texas
At Fibertarian Party stronghold The Knitting Nest, all stops were pulled out for a massive rally and all-night square dance. "Austin," said Dolores, "is the place I visit when I want to feel normal."
The University of Maine at Orono
The first of Dolores's many stadium appearances took place on the verdant grounds of the University of Maine at Orono. "I have a dream," said the candidate, gazing down upon the sea of eager students. "I have a dream, and you are part of it. At least, those of you who are at least 18 years of age are part of it. Eighteen is legal in Maine, right? Or is it sixteen?"
Portland, Oregon
In Portland, Dolores was abducted and briefly held captive in the back seat of a Volkswagen by a deranged fan before being rescued by police.
Casper, Wyoming
"This place," said Dolores, "really gives Austin a run for its money."
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Another capacity crowd greeted the candidate at Heinz Field. Really. They all showed up at once, right after this picture was taken. Honest.
Afterwards, one of the city's most eligible bachelors escorted Dolores to a scenic viewpoint and then she made the rest of us leave for half an hour.
Columbus, Ohio
Who better to put the "swing" in swing state? On the first day of early voting for Ohio elections, Ms. Van Hoofen gets as close as legally possible to a public polling place. (We are happy to report that her fine for trespassing on public greenery was later overturned.)
Juneau, Alaska
"She's right," said Dolores during a brief stop at the Alaska governor's mansion. "You really can see Russia from the front porch." The lady of the house was not at home, so our candidate left a gift for her on the steps. (It took four men with scrub brushes and bleach five hours to remove it.)
Gourock, Inverclyde; and Edinburgh, Scotland
"It has long been a commonplace," said Dolores, "that in Scotland, the men are strong and the sheep are nervous. I would like to think that during my visit those roles were reversed."
Falmouth, Kentucky
During an impromptu appearance at the Kentucky Wool Festival, Dolores scared the hell out of a spinner in the vendor market. "You would think," she said, "that he'd be accustomed to chicks like me hanging around him."
Brunswick, Ohio
Although she is primarily known as a musical genius and political visionary, Dolores ably stepped in to substitute teach Italian at this Ohio high school because she is a very cunning linguist.
Soquel, California
"What the hell is up with putting water on the bar?" said Dolores. "Freaking Californians."
Doha, Qatar
It's a long way to the Persian Gulf, but no distance is too great for our girl to travel when there are loyal Fibertarians to be met. They had cake!
Eugene, Oregon
A deeply sunburnt Dolores (it's very sunny in Qatar) joined supporters Meg (center) and Oliver (right) for a photo opportunity at the annual Eugene Memory Walk for the Alzheimer's Association of Oregon. Addressing the crowd, Dolores said, "This is a cause dear to my heart. You can't truly appreciate what a precious thing memory is unless you've blacked out as many times as I have."
Kansas City, Missouri
In a stunning display of largesse, Dolores posed with Fibertarian organizer Laura Gayle (left) and openly hostile Canadian blogger Stephanie Pearl-McPhee, aka Yarn Harlot. Pearl-McPhee, who (we repeat) is Canadian, famously questioned our beloved candidate's qualifications an episode of the popular Y Knit podcast. The two have since kissed and made up, although Pearl-McPhee (the Canadian) denies the kissing part.
And the Bleat Goes On...
The tour doesn't end until November 1, so if you'd like to host Dolores and be considered for the grand prize for best photo, check out this entry for details.
See You at Rhinebeck? Or Elsewhere?
The official launch of It Itches: A Stash of Knitting Cartoons is this weekend at the New York Sheep and Wool Festival! I'll be signing copies on Saturday from noon until at least 2 p.m. at the Carolina Homespun (yum!) booth (not in the author tent).
Some folks have been asking about a tour and/or book signings, and here's what I can tell you.
- As appearances are confirmed, they're added to the list here.
- I'll happily go anywhere I'm asked, if the proper arrangements can be made. Don't see your town on the list yet, but would like to? Recommend me to your guild or your favorite LYS. All they have to do is write to me at franklin at franklinhabit daht cahm and I'll happily send along my list of my offerings (talks, readings, classes, etc) and travel requirements.


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Zane Grey (1872-1939) was one of the world's most prominent and prolific writers of Western novels.
Pearl Zane Gray was born January 31, 1872, in his ancestral home of Zanesville, Ohio. The fourth of five children born to Lewis M. Gray, a dentist, and Josephine Alice Zane, his was an active boyhood marked by attendance at local schools and participation in many boyhood activities of which fishing and baseball were his favorites.
After serving an apprenticeship with his father, he entered dental school at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia in 1892. Although he was acclaimed for his success as an outstanding shortstop on the school's baseball team, his academic performance was only average. He graduated in 1896, and while practicing dentistry in New York City continued to play baseball with the Athletic Club in East Orange, New Jersey.
In 1900 he met his future wife, editor, and life-long source of encouragement, Lina Elise Roth, known as Dolly. During their five year courtship Gray changed his name to Zane Grey (dropping his first name and changing the spelling of his last), gave up his dental practice, and began a career as an author. After receiving many rejections by publishers, on his own he published his first book, entitled Betty Zane (1903). He and Dolly were married the following year, making their first home in Lackawaxen, Pennsylvania.
Grey's attention was drawn west to the geographic area which would provide the setting for most of his major books when he met Charles Jesse ("Buffalo") Jones in 1906. An older hunter who had set out to preserve and breed buffalo which were in danger of extinction, Jones took Grey to the American Southwest for the purpose of having Grey write a book about his life. Upon returning to the East fired by his experiences, he expressed his sentiments in The Last of the Plainsmen, a book about Jones. In 1910 he published Heritage of the Desert and in 1912 Riders of the Purple Sage. These two books were his first major successes in literature and the ones by which he established his national reputation as an author. Riders of the Purple Sage was enormously successful and is his best known and probably his best loved work.
His greatest sustained success, wealth, and fame came after him, Dolly, and their three children (Romer, Betty, and Lore) moved to Altadena, California, in 1918. Included among his works published during this time were To the Last Man, Tappan's Burro, Forlorn River, The Shepherd of Guadaloupe, Robbers' Roost, and The Trail Driver. By 1930 he was hailed as the most sought after writer in America.
When he was not writing, Grey took lengthy trips to such places as New Zealand, Australia, and Tahiti, where he set world records with his deep sea fishing catches (at one time he held ten world records) and where he had many of the experiences that later served as the basis for some of his writing. He enjoyed hunting and exploring as well, and these activities also found expression in his sports and adventure stories, written for both juvenile and adult readers.
Zane Grey died October 23, 1939, in Altadena, California. During his lifetime he sold nearly 20 million copies of his novels, and another 20 million have been sold posthumously. Before his death he published 40 western romances in addition to works for juveniles, and collections of short stories and books on his adventures as a hunter, explorer, and fisherman. Since his death another 23 of his books have been published. Desert Gold, The Rainbow Trail, The Border Legion, To The Last Man, The Shepherd of Guadaloupe, Robbers' Roost, The Trail Driver, Twin Sombreros, Ride the Man Down, Lost Pueblo, and Boulder Dam; and the novelettes Tappan's Burro, Don The Ranger, Canyon Walls From Missouri, and The Horse Thief.
Zane Grey: A Biography, 1970 (comprehensive list of book titles, sales statistics)Wikipedia, website viewed June 14, 2011 (b. Jan. 31, 1872, Zanesville, Ohio; parents: Lewis M. Gray, Josephine Alice Zane Grey; father a dentist; 4th of 5 children; Grey loved fishing and baseball; attended dental school at University of Pennsylvania at Philadelphia from 1892-1896; was shortstop on University baseball team; played baseball with athletic club of East Orange, New Jersey; met wife Dolly in 1900, courted 5 years before marrying; Grey's occupation orginially dentist, then author; rejected by publishers so self-published Betty Zane in 1903; lived in Lackawaxen, Penns. with wife; met Charles Jesse "Buffalo" Jones in 1906; travelled Jones to American Southwest; wrote Last of the Plainsmen about Jones; published Heritage of the Desert in 1910 and Riders of the Purple Sage in 1912; moved to Altadena, Calif. with family in 1918; from 1918-1930 wrote To the Last Man, Tappan's Burro, Forlorn River, The Shepherd of Guadaloupe, Robbers' Roost, and The Trail Driver, among others; took trips to New Zealand, Australia and Tahiti for deep-sea fishing; held ten deep-sea fishing records; Grey hunted and explored; his novels produced into movies; also wrote short stories and recounts of his own adventures; Grey's novels sold 20 million copies before his death and another 20 million copies after; published 40 western romances before death, another 23 published posthumously; married Lina "Dolly" Elise Roth Nov. 21, 1905, New York, N.Y.; children: Romer Zane, Betty, and Loren; d. Oct. 23, 1939, Atlandena, Calif.)
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While the manhunt for a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings continued Thursday night into Friday morning, residents of Watertown, Mass., and surrounding communities were hiding in bedrooms, looking out from roofs and peering from behind locked doors.
Susan Musinsky awoke at 1 a.m. when her 17-year-old daughter, Rebecca, came into her bedroom to warn her about a suspected terrorist on the loose. Rebecca, Susan and her husband, David Krieger, spent the next two hours hunkering down in bed checking news sites, Twitter and Facebook. By morning, Musinsky still had not slept much.
"I've been sitting in my bed looking out the window. I have the shades nearly drawn and there's just an eight-inch sliver I can see though," says Musinsky, 53. "We've heard helicopters, then there's the National Guard have come through, and the guys in the SWAT uniforms keep coming down our street."
While Watertown is officially a suburb of Boston, it doesn't feel like it. The roads are short and thin. On most every street, early 20 th century single-family homes and stacked duplexes are clumped close together with tiny yards, as if someone took a larger sized town and picked up the corners so that everything slid together.
Watertown's 30,000 residents are hemmed in on all sides. On the south side near the site of the early morning firefight, the town is bordered by the Charles River and a giant brick warehouse that used to hold a munitions factory. (It has since been converted to offices.) Running through the center is its main artery, Mt. Auburn St., which heads straight to Cambridge and marks the epicenter of one of the United States' largest communities of the Armenian diaspora, with Middle Eastern markets and eateries. The north side is bordered by the suburb of Belmont with its stately Victorian houses.
Musinksy, like other residents, was on edge all morning.
"I'm afraid to let the dog out," she says. "When they say there's a guy on the loose you have no idea what direction he's headed. You have no idea if he's hiding in someone's backyard. You just don't know."
A half mile away, Shelly Levy had been awoken in the early morning by gunfire and explosions. She checked a stream of updates from neighbors online. Around 9 a.m., after she had been up all night, a man in a SWAT uniform stopped by the house to make sure she and her family were safe and not being held against their will. "I was afraid at first," she says. "Now there are so many police around, it's hard to imagine anything happening."
Sarah Ryan lives next to the neighborhood where the firefight unfolded. She has neighbors who hid in their basements. Instead, she and her husband opted for extra vigilance. "We've been constantly scanning out our windows," Ryan says.
Watertown is the last place you'd expect to see a mini-war zone.
"I can't believe this is happening in our little town," says Ryan. "We don't lock our car doors. We often forget to lock our front doors. It feels very strange to be so insecure. We don't feel safe at all."
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First private marijuana clubs open in Colorado
DENVER With reggae music pumping in the background and flashing disco-style lights, members of the recreational pot club lit up in celebration of the new year and a new place to smoke legally among friends.
Club 64, in an industrial area just north of downtown Denver, opened at 4:20 p.m. on Monday, with some 200 people signed up. The opening came less than 24 hours after organizers announced they would charge a $29.99 admission price for the bring-your-own pot club.
"Look at this!" Chloe Villano exclaimed as the club she created over the weekend opened. "We were so scared because we didn't want it to be crazy. But this is crazy! People want this."
The private pot dens popped up less than a month after Colorado's governor signed into law a constitutional amendment allowing recreational pot use. Club 64 gets its name from the number of the amendment.
Two Colorado clubs were believed to be the first legal pot dens in the nation. The Denver Post reported that a similar pot club opened earlier Monday in the small southern Colorado town of Del Norte. However that club was quickly shutdown by the landlord of the building it was in, reports the Post.
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Colorado's marijuana amendment prohibits public consumption, and smoke-free laws also appear to ban indoor smokeouts. But Club 64 attorney Robert Corry said private pot dens are permissible because marijuana isn't sold, nor is it food or drink.
Villano, the club owner, said the pot club would meet monthly at different locations, with the $29.99 membership fee good for only one event. On Monday, the pot club was meeting in a hemp-based clothing store near downtown. Hooded sweatshirts and backpacks were shoved to a corner. In the main area, a few small tables sat next to a screen showing "The Big Lebowski."
A bar decorated with blue Christmas lights handed out sodas and Club 64's official snacks Goldfish and Cheetos. The snacks were inspired by Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, who warned marijuana users the night of the marijuana vote, "don't break out the Cheetos or Goldfish too quickly."
Corry said the pot clubs are intended for people who can't use marijuana at home because of local ordinance or because their landlords threaten eviction.
"It's just a place for adults to exercise their constitutional rights together," Corry said. "We're not selling pot here."
Among the new Club 64 members planning to ring in the New Year was Joe Valenciano of Denver. He heard about Club 64 a day ago and signed up immediately.
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Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Quick-Fix Orange Ginger Chicken
From the kitchen of One Perfect Bite...Our Thanksgiving dinner was a success and there weren't many were leftovers to deal with. The cider-brined pork was devoured and, despite having made two of them, I never got to sample the maple mousse cake I was so proud of. The Silver Fox, who lived through the testing of all the recipes, as well as the dinner itself, was thrilled there were no leavings. I must admit I was a bit relieved myself. That meant we could start a regimen of lighter meals a bit earlier than usual. It, for years, has been our habit to eat smaller meals in the period that stretches from Thanksgiving to Christmas. Several weeks of low-fat and low-calorie meals make Christmas excesses possible and spare us from living on the treadmill. We have been known to overdo it during the holidays, so during the interim period I actively seek out recipes for easy and healthy meals. I have to thank the Taste of Home magazine for the recipe I'm featuring today. We love Asian food, and, while this recipe is not authentically Asian, it's close enough to make a satisfying meal on a busy day. I basically followed the recipe as it was written, but did make a few changes for our meal. I used the zest and juice of one orange in my version of the recipe. I also used a good, slightly bitter, English marmalade that I've cooked with before. While I don't want to belabor the point, I know from cooking competitions how important the condiments we use in cooking can be. Brand "A" and brand "B" don't always produce the same results, so, once you find one that works for you, be consistent and unrelenting in its use. I also added a clove of garlic, a pinch of red pepper flakes and used the full compliment of ginger the recipe called for. You'll want to have a 1/4 cup of water or stock at the ready to dilute the sauce in case it becomes too thick. It will become too thick. This dish comes together quickly and it can be table ready in about 30 minutes. That is a boon for busy cooks during the holiday season. I hope you'll give this recipe a try. It makes a lovely quick meal. Here's the recipe as it was published.
Orange Ginger Chicken ...from the kitchen of One Perfect Bite courtesy of Taste of Home magazine
1/3 cup all-purpose flour
6 boneless skinless chicken thighs (about 1-1/2 pounds), cubed
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
2 tablespoons canola oil
1/2 cup orange juice
1/2 cup orange marmalade
2 tablespoons reduced-sodium soy sauce
2 tablespoons honey
1/2 to 1 teaspoon ground ginger
Optional garnishes: thinly sliced green onion and sesame seeds
1) Place flour in a large resealable plastic bag. Season chicken with salt and pepper. Add to bag, a few pieces at a time, and shake to coat. In a large skillet, cook chicken in oil in batches over medium heat until chicken is no longer pink. Remove and keep warm.
2) In same skillet, combine orange juice, marmalade, soy sauce, honey, and ginger. Bring to a boil, stirring to loosen browned bits from pan; cook and stir until thickened. Return chicken to the pan; heat through. Sprinkle with green onion and sesame seeds if desired. Yield: 4 to 6 servings.
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38 comments :
- Ginny Hartzler said...
This looks really good! I love Taste Of Home magazine, and have subscribed to it in the past. I also love to watch "America's Test Kitchen" and read Cooks Illustrated.
- November 30, 2011 at 1:04 AM
- Lenia said...
I love the combination of ingredients!Have a lovely day,dear Mary!
- November 30, 2011 at 2:22 AM
- Red Nomad OZ said...
Oh, they're ALL good words in the title to this post!!! The marmalade is an interesting addition - but looks and sounds sensational!!!
- November 30, 2011 at 2:41 AM
- Sushma Mallya said...
Love the ingredients used here Mary, looks very delicious!
- November 30, 2011 at 4:28 AM
- Alicia Foodycat said...
That's a very tasty looking meal! You are so right about the quality of condiments you use, it makes such a difference!
- November 30, 2011 at 4:43 AM
- Lynn said...
This sounds great and I do have all of the items:@)
- November 30, 2011 at 5:28 AM
- Priya Suresh said...
Looks absolutely irresistible lovely orange ginger chicken.
- November 30, 2011 at 5:53 AM
- Vicki Bensinger said...
Wow quick, simple and packed with flavor. This sounds so good. This would be a great stir fry dish with lots of julienned veggies. Sounds wonderful.
I know what you're talking about with thanksgiving. I oftentimes feel like from thanksgiving to New Years it's just one continuous meal. - November 30, 2011 at 5:55 AM
- Anna's kitchen table said...
That sounds really good and something I could make on a weekday that we would all enjoy!
- November 30, 2011 at 5:59 AM
- Big Dude said...
This looks super good Mary and I knew your Thanksgiving would be a roaring success. We like to try out our recipes on the guests and they know it up front, but occasionally we crash and burn.
- November 30, 2011 at 6:50 AM
- Sofia.Lopez said...
Hello Mary,
I love so much this asian flavours...the combination looks perfect! A quick and delicious meal just like i enjoy to eat...
Big kiss for yuou and have a really nice day ;) - November 30, 2011 at 6:52 AM
- Tanna said...
Sounds like a perfect meal for this busy season!! Have a wonderful day, Mary! blessings ~ tanna
- November 30, 2011 at 7:21 AM
- Nicole said...
My family has also been known to overdo it with the holiday eating… it's just so hard to control yourself with all the amazing food in front of you. I love orange chicken but have not yet tried my hand at making it. It looks scrumptious!
- November 30, 2011 at 7:24 AM
- Kim said...
Really love this chicken, the orange taste is probably enough strong for me (I always think that the orange taste is not strong enough in savory recipes)!
- November 30, 2011 at 7:29 AM
- Unknown said...
This sounds lovely, Mary! I very much like orange flavors in my savory dishes.. it's so bright and vibrant!
- November 30, 2011 at 7:32 AM
- Judy@SavoringToday said...
Mmm, I love the combination of orange and ginger, and chicken thighs are wonderful too! This looks quite tasty.
- November 30, 2011 at 8:32 AM
- StephenC said...
Kudos to you and the Silver Fox for sensible eating. And for your consistently useful recipes.
- November 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM
- Diane said...
Orange, ginger and chicken, I cannot think of a better combination. Take care Diane
- November 30, 2011 at 8:41 AM
- The Path Traveled said...
This sounds really good. I am glad to see it using Chicken Thighs instead of breast. They are so much better.
- November 30, 2011 at 9:17 AM
- Kath said...
I find that I, too, look for lighter recipes to serve in the period between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Your chicken looks perfect!
- November 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM
- Rita said...
Ginger, orange and hoeny; it has to be real good; great combination.
Rita - November 30, 2011 at 10:27 AM
- Floreal said...
Hi Mary,
Thank you for visitting my blog, I've been pretty happy for that. I've spent a ver y good time in your kitchen and I love all thing taht I can see, for instance, this week we'll try that sandwich of grilled tomatoe and blue . And that's the beginning because you've pretty interesting recipes!
I hope to hear from you soon.
Encantada de haberte conocido, saludos! - November 30, 2011 at 10:46 AM
- Valerie Harrison (bellini) said...
I wholeheartedly agree about eating lighter meals before the Christmas "gorge-fest" Mary!
- November 30, 2011 at 10:56 AM
- Elisabeth said...
Love your orange-ginger chicken, so delicious and comforting...also the yummy cranberry cheesecake, from last year, is superb, Mary!
- November 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM
- Mini Baker said...
mmmm i love orange chicken. when i don't make it myself, I cheat and go to Panda Express. Its my guilty pleasure and I'm quite ashamed haha :)
- November 30, 2011 at 11:33 AM
- Chiara said...
This looks good and tasty! I love chicken...have a very good day...
- November 30, 2011 at 11:35 AM
- Karen (Back Road Journal) said...
Mary, the chicken dish sounds perfect. We do the same think and try to eat a little lighter between the two holidays.
- November 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM
- lena said...
hi mary, i havent tried making orange chicken here and the orange marmalade sounds like a great ingredient here and i do think it makes the flavour stands out!
- November 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM
- That Girl said...
It's funny how I bemoan the lack of leftovers and you rejoice in it.
- November 30, 2011 at 12:54 PM
- Beverly said...
Mary, I will definitely try this. It sounds like something we would really enjoy.
I've been sick with a terrible cold and cough. This is the third week, and I am slowly getting better. Now my sweet husband has it.
I hope you will join us every Pink Saturday during the holidays as we celebrate together. I've missed you. - November 30, 2011 at 2:12 PM
- Sue/the view from great island said...
I'm totally with you on the regimen of lighter meals. Asian food is just perfect for that, but I don't have a lot of experience cooking it, so I really appreciate the recipe.
- November 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM
- Swathi said...
This orange ginger chicken looks delicious. My hubby eats chicken, sure I will show this recipe.
- November 30, 2011 at 4:36 PM
- Unknown said...
This looks fantastic! I just made some clementine-cranberry marmalade - I might have to try this with a little different twist!
- November 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM
- Joanne said...
the only way I can maintain any kind of sanity is to eat only lighter meals in-between holiday seasons. This looks perfect! I love that orange sauce.
- November 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM
- Lori said...
My husband loves orange chicken so this is one I definitely need to try. It looks so good!
- November 30, 2011 at 10:10 PM
- Amy said...
Delicious. What a great recipe. :)
- December 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM
- Claudia said...
I enjoy these type of meals so much - carefully spiced - lots of flavors coming together - and done fairly quickly. I thought that by my age - I would be done with needing quick meals. I thought wrong.
- December 1, 2011 at 10:26 PM
- Tiffany said...
Mary, thank you for finding me! I scrolled down your page here and you have some great stuff. This recipe in particular looks wonderful. Looks like you have a lot of cooking experience... someday I will be like you :)
- December 2, 2011 at 12:43 PM


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Continuity and Change
11 July 2013
,I've just spent a few minutes taking in this blog feed - it's been a while since I visited and it's amazing how many new bloggers and topics you can find here. Well done everyone!
My own contributions have been more sporadic, and for that, dear reader, I hope you'll forgive me.
Even though a lot has been going on here at St Fagans, most of it has been behind the scenes - and not the interesting, 'sneaky peek' behind the scenes either. Nope, it's been large grids and even larger bits of paper; evaluation, planning and decision-making. Nothing to write home about maybe (although my mother does love those letters*) - but the results of this hard work will start to show on-site very soon.
We've completed a fair bit of infrastructure work, audited our sprawling, wooded site for 3G and wi-fi capability, and worked with an access consultant to learn more about how to open up the site to a wider variety of peoples. I can't wait to see how we implement what we've learned.
The aim is to keep that special something that makes St Fagans such a draw to visitors from all over the world, and to improve the facilities as well. We want to do this is a way which is open and participatory, so our committee room doors have flung open to welcome new youth, teacher and craft forums, to name a few. The galleries are also getting a complete re-vamp, and I'm very curious to see what my colleagues have come up with for the new display.
Meantime, I would like to keep you updated as the project develops - the question is how?
Do I write more about our current buildings' history? Or show you the new ones as they appear?
The big stories, or the everyday wonders? How about our future plans for sleepovers and performances? More Tudors? Less Tudors? Fewer Tudors?
I'm a firm believer that if you don't know, you should ask. So, to practise what I preach:
- What would you like to see on this blog?
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It's tempting, when beginning a visit to the far reaches of Siberia, to dismiss cold as some Russian cliché. Like vodka. And fur hats.
Sure, there'll be vodka — but not at every meal. Maybe I'll buy a fur hat as a souvenir — but I won't actually wear it.
Cold is no cliché. Siberia is cold.
I know cold. I like cold. I grew up in Pittsburgh, skiing, sledding and sitting through Pittsburgh Steeler football games in January, where beers and sodas freeze in plastic cups at your seats.
I have lived the last two years in Moscow, developing an even more formidable resistance to cold.
Then came Ulan-Ude. The city is tucked in the mountains between Lake Baikal, the world's deepest freshwater lake, and the Mongolian border.
During our first hours in Ulan Ude, the temperatures hovered around minus-15 degrees Fahrenheit. Ten minutes outside successfully numbed my fingers and toes.
At one point, I inserted hand-warmers into my gloves. The things work just fine at Vermont ski resorts.
Not here. Our local guide, Alisa Sukneva, caught a glimpse of my hand-warmer. I explained to her what it was and what I was trying to do.
"Ah," she said. "We don't sell those here."
Given their uselessness, why would they?
This region has a history of intimidating people with its cold.
In the 18th century, some "Old Believers" arrived. Old Believers are a religious community still irked by reforms carried out by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1666. Many were exiled to this part of Siberia and apparently found the bitter cold quite shocking. They learned methods of survival from the Buryats, a nomadic Asian people accustomed to the harsh climate.
The spirit of helping newcomers has not diminished.
Our first morning in Ulan Ude, we hired a guide named Yuri Bronnikov to show us around. Yuri's a retired construction engineer who wears a tall brown fur hat over his gray hair but apparently no gloves, no matter the temperature.
He drives an 11-passenger forest-green minivan. Like many Russian drivers, Yuri has gone to great lengths to give his vehicle an inviting interior design. He's brightened up the windows, for example, by hanging flowing green curtains accented with fringe. He's also covered his dashboard in green fabric.
Yuri's vehicle, however, does not have working heat. That fact became overwhelmingly clear within minutes of leaving the hotel parking out. Our breathing turned Yuri's curtain-framed windows into sheets of ice. And the floor of the van transferred cold through the soles of my shoes, numbing my toes for what was expected to be about a two-hour drive.
A half-hour into the drive, we pulled over for tea. This is when Yuri got a look at my shoes. They were black boots purchased in New York. Yuri's expression of confusion and sympathy matched the look Alisa gave me when she noticed the hand-warmers.
Yuri immediately went around to the back of his van and pulled out a pair of Valenki. They are Russian boots designed for the cold.
Each knee-high boot, or valenok, is made of felt, tightly-packed together until formed into a boot shape.
Yuri smiled broadly. His generosity warmed my heart as much as his valenki warmed my feet.
I can't pretend valenki are stylish. In fact, coincidentally or not, valenok has a second definition in Russian. It can also mean "hick" or "country bumpkin."
But on this day, valenki helped me confront the cold. And they gave me a glimpse of how life in Siberia has endured with the sharing of secrets.
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The Dance in Vancouver collection consists of interviews by Karen Greenhough with eight dance pioneers in British Columbia. The project was suggested by Greenhough's instructor, Iris Garland, SFU Professor of Dance, who obtained support through a Young Canada Works Grant.
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