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Wednesday, June 13, 2012
Folsom East & The Eagle
As we come up on the 16th annual Folsom East fair this weekend, we hear from an anonymous resident of 540 West 28th (the +ART building) that those dire predictions may already be coming true. Folsom East and the Eagle, he tells us, are not long for this rapidly changing world.
2011: High Line tourists pointing at Folsom-goers
Construction began on the +ART building in 2008, when there was nothing on that block except for a gay bar, a strip club, a scrap yard, a truck yard, and some autobody shops. Our anonymous interviewee has lived there for the past year. He bought the condo because he, like many of his neighbors, was attracted to "the building, view of the river, wide open space, proximity to Chelsea Piers, High Line, and the Hudson River Park."
I asked him some questions and he provided us with an inside look into how the new condo dwellers of the High Line are forcing change on the once-wild, westernmost hinterlands of Chelsea.
Q: What is the prevailing opinion about the Folsom East fair among your neighbors--how do people talk about the fair?
A: It's a mixed bag. The primary issue is the zero access to the building without walking through the fair itself where lewd conduct and nudity isn't uncommon. Those with children find it particularly difficult.
Q: In what way have the neighbors organized, and what is your goal in terms of the fair--do you want it to stop running, move to another block? What are the neighbors doing to meet this goal?
A: Residents from several surrounding buildings have passed fliers asking our residents to write to the Community Board to relocate or totally eliminate Folsom Street East because "fetish" fairs shouldn't be allowed so close to so many residential buildings. There's word that a petition of some sort will be circulated but I'm not exactly sure what the details are.
A letter was written to the Community Board asking how they can assure residents access to the building without having to walk through the fair itself. Another suggestion was to move it to the next block where it's bordered (for now) by commercial on two sides, Con Ed to the north, and West Street.
The primary issue for us at 540 W 28th isn't the Eagle or even Folsom Street East. It's allowing residents access to the building without having to go through the fair itself. Other residents of the surrounding buildings and even my own building may have additional concerns with regard to the lewd conduct and nudity in full view from their units.
Q: Were you aware of the fair's presence before you bought property here? [The fair's been running for 16 years.]
A: Yes... It's only once a year.
Q: What about the Eagle and Scores? It's hard to imagine those lasting on 28th with the new Avalon West Chelsea going in. How long do you think they will last?
A: I can't speak for all residents but a group of us would like them to stay. We've gotten to know the bouncers and they always say hello or play with our dogs. The crowd that gathers outside of the Eagle is always very nice, and the clientele at Scores really just get out of their cars and zip right inside. No loitering in front for the most part. Having the bouncers out front also gives us an additional level of security. Sure, you'll always have those that will be obnoxious or use the side of our building as a urinal but doesn't that happen just about everywhere in NYC?
I did hear that this summer may be the Eagle's last which would be a shame. I hope they reconsider. [Note: To this, the Eagle says, "Don't listen to rumors."] With the addition of 700+ units in Avalon Chelsea, it may be a matter of whether or not Scores or Eagle even want to be there. I give it a year. Construction across the street is going at a rather fast pace.
Queer, kinky, weird New York is vanishing at an astonishing rate--as fast as the new condos are being constructed along the High Line's glamorous flanks. Folsom Street East and the Eagle are the last vestiges of a once-thriving queer leather scene in Chelsea, one that not so long ago stretched across the Meatpacking District, up and down the far west side.
In 2009, the New York Leather Weekend was canceled when the Standard Hotel and the Food & Wine Festival complained to the city, successfully ousting the queers from MePa's sacred cobblestone streets. I have no doubt that the people of West 28th Street's new condos will eventually win the fight against Folsom the same way--and, apparently, no one is even trying to stop them.
Folsom Under High Line
Eagle Under Siege
Eagle's Nest
Pleasure Chest 1972
Men in Leather
Lenny & Leather
57 comments:
It's difficult to see how "this summer may be the Eagle's last" given how desolate and unattractive the block will be to new condo buyers for the next two years. Once the Avalon construction reaches over the top of the scaffolding, no one will want to buy because nearly 4/5 of the north side of the block will be undergoing massive transformation. And existing owners will doubtless learn the Eagle and Scores aren't the bane of their existence; instead, it's Avalon and the generic pastel lifestyle it peddles.
- June 13, 2012 at 7:54 AM
Makes perfect sense - move somewhere where you know something exists already, decide you don't like it, and throw a tantrum so mommy will remove it and make everything all better. Gotta love the people that move somewhere to trade on the reputation it earned, and then decide to force the people out who helped create that reputation. But we have to think of THE CHILDREN!!!! Poor little things! They will be scarred for life if they have to walk past a guy in leather chaps on the way to the fortified compound. I think the best solution is to get rid of anybody who wouldn't make the cut of a SATC film, hold a huge Carrie Bradhsaw costume party, and have the winner toss artisanal cupcakes from the High Line down to her adoring fans. After all, that's the urban experience they signed up for when they signed the lease.
- June 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM
- Jeremiah Moss said...
love you JAZ
- June 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM
Right back at ya buddy! This site helps keep me sane.
The sad thing is, it's getting harder and harder to know where the parody ends and reality begins. - June 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM
If the parade is canceled, they should do it anyway, as a giant protest.
- June 13, 2012 at 9:53 AM
*festival, rather.
- June 13, 2012 at 9:54 AM
As George Carlin once said, "FUCK THE CHILDREN!". There, I said it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2Y4PzTCOc&feature=player_embedded - June 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM
- Unknown said...
I am a person who prefers condos to the Eagle (I never heard of it until now). It goes without saying, that having a family type environment is much more economically beneficial to the city.
- June 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Anonymous 7:54 AM, these people want the "generic pastel lifestyle".
I have no idea how endangered the fetish parade really is, but then I'm surprised its lasted as long as it has. My thoughts about this are about the same as my thoughts on the San Gennaro feast. I'd much rather live in a city that had both. But the Italians moved out to Staten Island and New Jersey some time ago, and it would have been better for their celebration to have moved as well, instead of becoming a pale shadow of itself that does little more than annoy the new residents of the neighborhood. The fetish fair should move to wherever the gay community now lives.
The ad executives, law firm partners, and bankers who a few decades ago lived in the suburbs have decided that they want to live in the central city. They have the power to remake the central city in their image, just like they remade the farms and small cities that used to be on the outskirts in their image. Everyone else better clear out to make way. - June 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM
- Marty Wombacher said...
In total agreement with JAZ and Crazy Eddie, as always. If you want to protect your children, move to Peoria, it's safe as milk there (to quote Captain Beefheart) and they can work at WalMart when they grow up.
- June 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM
@Unknown: You sound really boring. How is having a family type environment more economically beneficial? The gays have the most disposable income, and the fair brings in out of towners which actually is "economically beneficial".
- June 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Unknown, can't you just not go to the Eagle if it isn't for you?
- June 13, 2012 at 12:31 PM
West Chelsea is being made safe for Anita Bryant.
Am sure the area could use a Starbucks as well as a Duane Reade and a Gap. With time, maybe there will be the presence of Ralph Lauren and Marc Jacobs. - June 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM
- Ken Mac said...
Wow, I love that Strollers Beware sign.
- June 13, 2012 at 1:33 PM
"The ad executives, law firm partners, and bankers who a few decades ago lived in the suburbs have decided that they want to live in the central city. They have the power to remake the central city in their image, just like they remade the farms and small cities that used to be on the outskirts in their image. Everyone else better clear out to make way."
And for many, many decades before that, the ad executives, law firm partners, and bankers did live in the central city. So I suppose they originally made it in their image, someone else remade it in the '50s-'80s when the bankers, etc. decamped to the suburbs, and now they are remaking it as they return.
Not sure why they don't have the right to do so. - June 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM
I'm not sure what to respond to, but I'm going to try and stick to the topic of regional image crafting.
I was alive during "The Bronx is Burning" era when the money-men decided to skip out and head for the edges of the suburbs. What was left behind was a huge swath of wreckage, decay and filth. The minorities (such as myself)and societal fringe elements came and remade it to their liking, but this is because nobody was there in such a mass that it became a serious issue. Somebody's gotta use the empty spaces after all.
Now the new image branding that's occurring is not happening in a decimated and depopulated wasteland, but in thriving and vibrant areas that were already at critical mass; where each block could have it's own separate culture, entertainments and identity. The blocks are being cleared out now for people that feel like they have a right to disturb the residents of areas they've (or their parents) abandoned. This smacks of rich, W.A.S.P. entitlement to me. "I want this shiny for myself now, so give it to me and go away somewhere else." - June 13, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Nice to see Tony Perkins (Unknown 11:09 AM) chime in. And as far as the Folsom East Festival is concerned, what the fuck is wrong with leather chaps anyway? Isn't the Cowboy the all American role model? And as for that famous Montgomery Clift and John Ireland conversation in "Red River", well, we will let the scene speak for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQmaLlmutlY - June 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM
- mingusal said...
Can't there be some areas of this vast city that are not "child-safe" and "family-friendly"?
I'm really tired of the trend of having all activities of adults being held hostage all over this town to the standards of what's considered "safe" for 5-year-olds by their uptight parents. And to have to have every activity and establishment made "child-friendly" so we can experience the joy of having people's little sprogs running around everywhere at all hours.
I'm a city kid of the '60s and '70s and I wasn't damaged by my limited exposure to this sort of thing (in fact, quite the opposite). But now tolerant and diverse city-people are suddenly all expected to uphold the "family-friendly" standards of the white-bread suburban-raised.
Seriously, isn't this what the suburbs were built for? Why not live there if you're so concerned? - June 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM
there are 2 sides here. how many people knew about the fetish fair when buying the condo?? if they did know, they have no right to complain. if most didnt i see the point. personally i would not want to see this. i dont want anything "in my face", gay straight what ever. i dont know how many days this fair goes on? & does it bring more crowds? IF its more than 2 days, & the real estate agents did not inform to buyers- then i see their point. gays will always find a new place! theyre here theyre queer, & there will be a new greenwich village/chelsea.
- June 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM
comment #2: i just read the interview again. if people used the side of my building as a urinal, i would go to the mayors office. thats buxxshxt, thats not acceptable in upscale areas in new york. time to move the leather fair. hate me for this, im used to it.
- June 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Its happening everywhere. Up here in Boston, we just celebrated Gay Pride, but I noticed something was missing. In previous years, Pride Week was kicked off by the Pridelights tree lighting ceremony On Tremont Street - at Clarendon, which used to be ground zero for the gay South End community. A giant tree was lit with hundreds of pink lights for Pride. There were drag queen performers, comedians and politicians, not to mention hundreds of the gays.
At some point in the last couple of years, the tree lighting ceremony was moved to Club Cafe, a gay bar somewhat far removed from gay ground zero, and with only small saplings on which to throw a few lights. Not very impressive.
Why this move? Well, at around the same time, a certain restaurant which appeals apparently to the suburban Lily Pulitzered, valet-parking crowd, expanded its outdoor dining area to include the portion of the plaza right beneath the tree. There were mumblings that it had to do with electrical lines, etc.
However, at Christmas time, that very tree is lit up with hundreds of multi-colored Christmas light, no problem. Apparently, the diners uber-hetero suburb-in-the-city restaurant should not have to face 3-400 gay men and a couple of drag queens one freakin' night a year.
If these people are so sensitive to viewing others not like themselves, then why don't they just stay in Wellesley or New Jersey or the like? There are plenty of Panera Breads out there for them and they won't have to see gay men unless their sons or husbands come out. - June 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM
- SadEnding said...
"Queer, kinky, weird New York is vanishing at an astonishing rate-"
Yeah? Not astonishingly fast enough for me, thanks. - June 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM
This is the 16th year the fair has taken place and the eighth time it's been on 28th Street, The first eight years it was anchored on West 13th Street and it was eventually crowded out (as was the LURE) and it moved north. It was always meant to be just a tad transgressive with leather/fetish folks out in their finest in the sunshine.
I've read a dozen articles in the last year about how horribly homogeneous street fairs are in the city. There are no tube socks, pillows, or mops for sale at Folsom Street East. The other big difference with FSE is that it's an all-volunteer effort and with tens of thousands of dollars being raised and donated to local worthy charities.
It lasts for just 5 hours (plus a couple hours on either side spent cleaning what is usually a filthy block) just one day a year. You could spend the afternoon shopping at the mall, catch a movie, and then dinner at Applebee's and never know we were on 'your' block. - June 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM
WOW. People are so easily offended these days. I don't hold too much hope for the future if everyone keeps getting their feelings hurt by the thought of men strolling around in assless chaps and people pissing on the side of buildings. Seriously. I thought Americans were made of tougher stock than that. When did we turn into such pussies?
LAAAAUUUUURRRRAAAA...I'm looking in your direction...wouldn't you be happier in Scarsdale? You're not going to find that kind of icky stuff there unless you go looking for it.
As for the regular commenters on this blog...Things are changing underneath you. Get out there and start claiming some weird space as yours again. Find some bar or restaurant or any other scene in New New York and make it your new hang out. Invite your friends, your money is just as green as anyone else's.
I wish I could have heard the conversation of those folks taking pictures from the highline. - June 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM
@Profjoe223, Why do you read this blog?
- June 13, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Well, it took around 4 hours for Tony Perkins the II (ProfJoe223) to chime in. Quite the "professor" you are. From Liberty University, I assume?
- June 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM
I find comment like this, "If you want to protect your children, move to Peoria, it's safe as milk there (to quote Captain Beefheart) and they can work at WalMart when they grow up." to be indicative of a great deal of anger and intolerance, not to mention just plain meanness.
Not everyone can or wants to leave NYC (I was born here and will never leave, but I don't LOVE everything that's happened in the past few years), and this is a city that has always be home to all kinds of people.
While I am not enamored of the Folsom-genre of events, and I don't attend or patronize them, I also don't readily accept the anger of people who are so threatened by change. I, too, fear the changes in my beloved neighborhood, but there's little that can be done to stanch the huge growth downtown, as well as the eternal interest in living here—by those with and without the means to do so.
It's not going to change, but dammit, you don't have to be so &*(#$& nasty about people not wanting to live with something they find offensive. Live and let live. - June 13, 2012 at 9:00 PM
can we have T-Shirts pleez of that NYFingCity graphic? i'd like an all purpose one not just for Folsom but just with lots of custom frases like, "cuz Fran L. sez so.." cuz Lenny B. sez so.. and so on... somebody make them! but i guess there's iron ons you can print on special paper and iron on a shirt. we could all do our own DIY shirts.
J - really you should do that and make your own Welcome to NY now get out kind of shirt..! sure those decal kinda paper things are online... - June 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM
- mingusal said...
Anon @ 9:00 PM, you have it wrong. It's not "anger and intolerance" that people here are showing - it's anger AT intolerance.
I find it much more &*(#$& nasty and offensive that someone in a neighborhood they just moved into would feel entitled to impose their will and values on people and institutions that were there long before they arrived, simply because of their relative wealth. - June 14, 2012 at 2:50 AM
@ Anon 9:00pm 6/13/12
One can't help but feel the undercurrent of homophobia running through this one...hardly live and let live. - June 14, 2012 at 9:52 AM
- Kevin Donohue said...
The crimes that have been perpetrated against our community in the name of protecting THE CHILDREN! Meanwhile, our children get bullied to death. What it boils down to is this - straight people think their shtupping is better than our shtupping because their shtupping leads to overpopulation. Go figure. The funny thing is how many of these hetero-supremicists would deny they are homophobic, yet they will take their children to Jones Beach where just as much flesh is exposed - it is clearly the homoerotic context that bothers them. They like gay people as long as we behave and look just like them, accepting their hegemony in every aspect of life. Hypocrites.
- June 14, 2012 at 10:39 AM
I'm not gonna say that there isn't homophobia out there, but there is a big difference between public and private shtupping, Kevin. How well would the neighborhood accept shutting down 8th Street for pole dancing and wet t-shit contests?
- June 14, 2012 at 12:41 PM
TINY TIM: IM STRAIGHT, you better get used to it. & darling, i AM a regular on this board, you better get used to that too. KEVIN DONOHUE: whats up w/the queer adoptions, the surrogate mother for the 2 married men? pleeese.......you guys "were" the original swinging singles, you paved the way for.....carrie???? now i see you all want to be accepted by the local PTA. you want it from the front & you want it from the back, make up your minds. i read the NYTs & see public TV too, i know whats going on. theres nothing more repulsive than gays wanting to be straight. now that offends me! if you stay in your area, i'll stay in mine. a deal? speak, for for ever hold the peace. love & kisses, laura -your straight friend. (as ms franklin said, show some respect- just a little bit....)
- June 14, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Yet the highline and chelsea new residents welcome and would let their children see the practically naked SATC wannabes when going to club and bar hopping, brunching, and shopping esp. on hot humid days, wearing short short mini skirts sans underwear, see thru dresses without a bra almost on a nightly and daily basis. I have no problem with those almost naked women, neither do I have a problem with the Folsom fair. So 'Save the children' my ass; they kiss that ass. I hope more topless women would walk around highline and chelsea. I'd like to see these bankers and lawyers parents go huffin' and puffin' about that. Damn hypocrites.
- June 14, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Please - the children of the Carrie Bradshaw wannabes living in these highline-adjacent buildings are too busy drooling on themselves, or having screaming fits because the parents are too wrapped up in themselves to actually discipline the children. OR too lost in their smartphone games or texting to care about anyone in a see through cami OR a pair of assless chaps.
Its obvious that its the parents who are offended by the sight of human flesh not covered by a Lululemon yoga outift. And they tell temselves they moved to NY because of the diversity, because its edgy. They've got roughly 3,588 miles of USA to be Iowans or whatever. Stay the F"*& out of our 12 miles of NY. - June 14, 2012 at 11:25 PM
It always stings when a group realizes they've been little more than a placeholder for a "more desirable", ie moneyed/powerful, group when that group decides to shatter the place where they live, work, or play, with little or no regard, deliberate or otherwise, for them. After decades of providing jobs, entertainment, services, etc. far west chelsea is suddenly a desirable residential destination for the fortunate few who can afford it. Until it isn't desirable for them anymore. Then, the same kind of people who made the far west side viable both economically and socially when no one else was interested in it have to figure out how to turn a trendy apartment building into something more useful. The current story of capitalism run amok.
- June 15, 2012 at 7:27 AM
Some of those stollers are with gay parents.
The most interesting side effect of gay marriage is couples who have moved their lives away from those like people who support FSE. - June 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Meanwhile, the developers of '+art' are selling "queer, kinky, weird New York."
Stenciled on the ground floor plate glass is something like Chelsea "invented bad behavior." The building's website urges "live loudly welcome home" (?) and includes this Angela Carter quote: "Cities have sexes: London is a man, Paris is a woman and New York is a well-adjusted transsexual."
SMH. The real-estate forces love to celebrate the very things they kill, like crowing about the charms of 'FloMa' a few avenues east, while the phalanx of 40-story apt. buildings along 6th eliminates the flower merchants and the charm. - June 15, 2012 at 2:46 PM
- Jeremiah Moss said...
Grand St.--so right! i was just by there and snapped a pick of their "bad behavior" signage. to come...
- June 15, 2012 at 4:52 PM
- Jeremiah Moss said...
and the visual on that:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11205114@N03/7376041390/in/photostream - June 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM
Excuse me, but "One can't help but feel the undercurrent of homophobia running through this one...hardly live and let live."
I'm feeling an undercurrent of HETEROPHOBIA. What's wrong with us breeders? You wouldn't be here if someone didn't have you, so relax, people. And it's not just straight couples with children who are responsible for the changes that are coming to the area, it's capitalism and materialism and STUFF. Plenty of gay people have money and stuff and values, too. Relax. - June 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM
ANON 12:20 pm 6/15: took the words out of my mouth. gay strollers? really. whats the solution for those folks? their own hoods? now THATS a new marketing slant. family friendly neighborhoods for gay parents. you heard it first here. ANON 11:25 6/14: there is something sinister about the black leather, & the way they wear it, w/the backsides cut out. you cant compare it to carrie bradshaw. if the gays on this blog are offended by carrie wanna be's, why cant straight people be offended by some of gay culture? i have no problem w/gay events, but as i said i wouldnt want it in my face. again, i wonder, how many people knew of this event before buying the condo? & dont assume people move to new york to be "edgy". they move for many reasons, dont flatter yourselves. they not there for you or peepee. as for peeing on the side of buildings? one commenter said, "thats new york"?? so wrong. he sounds like a kid from the midwest, maybe still in college. i lived in NYC most of my life no one ever pee'ed near my buildings. no one deserves that. whether they pay a million $ or live in a project. my gay friends would be @ bloomburg's & get the place shut down. their bodies may not be their temples, but their homes are. i wouldnt want to live near a sports bar or frat bar either. pee is pee. @least this event is once a year.
- June 15, 2012 at 9:05 PM
to add: O.M.G. the person who thinks pep pee is so new york, LIVES in the million $$$ condos! guess thats one neighbor who wont sign MY petition. i also see this event is only 5 hours? why not get portable bathrooms? you know what? dont always blame the condo buyers. i bet the real estate office told them "these places will be shut down, city is working on this" too bad in a way for the gay bars, as the water front has always been their domain.
- June 15, 2012 at 9:20 PM
- Jeremiah Moss said...
can we please try to stay with what's really happening here? this block was the boondocks until a minute ago. it was a safe haven for a marginalized group of people, away from the conventional crowds, for years. no one who didn't want to see them ever saw them.
then Bloomberg and Burden rezoned this area. the High Line came in. people were evicted and put out of business so that luxury condo towers could rise. the people who move into those condos have zero respect for what came before them, for the people they are putting out. they consider certain classes of people to be trash, something to be discarded.
in this case, the "trash" happens to be queer, kinky men and women. it could just as easily be people in a homeless shelter or disabled senior citizens. the condo people will find a reason to have a problem, and they will push them out--all to create the ideal neighborhood that money can buy.
assholes with socioeconomic power move into neglected neighborhoods, take them over, and deliberately kick out the people who've been there for years before them.
let's not muddy the waters with crap about assless chaps and whatnot. this is cultural slaughter--and it's been going on since Bloomberg took office.
when does it end? - June 15, 2012 at 9:31 PM
It all ends when the 'trash' culture and sub-culture have all been disposed. Then the ones remaining, the moneyed 'upper' culture will start eating each other until the 'fittest' of them survives.
This isn't' about straight vs. gays. It's about the non-marginalized majority, mostly upper moneyed class, vs. the marginalized 'lower' class, (lower in the eyes of the upper class and middle America). Mind you (not you JM, you as in all ), that there are gays out there who are against this fair and would rather have the SATC crowds. SATC afterall was created by a gay or the gays upper class. They see the Folsom Fair as beneath them. No different than these moneyed gentrifiers see the natives as beneath them and must be pushed out or disposed of. They all want a sterile environment to live that [only] money can buy. - June 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Um...can we be a little careful about plugging an economic analysis wholesale onto this? Ever price leather gear? This is not the land of the poor.
- June 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM
[Looking through Katherine Parker's wardrobe]
Cynthia: Six thousand dollars? It's not even leather! - June 16, 2012 at 11:07 AM
What was especially outrageous about the cancelation in 2009 was that The Standard Hotel is infamous and even encourages exhibitionists to pout on a show in front of their floor to ceiling windows. In fact many suggest that the photos of nude exhibitionist guests posted online and in the NY Post may have even been staged by the hotel and their publicists to generate buzz. Crazy that they of all parties would complain about Folsom.
- June 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM
grand st: that IS a very twisted marketing approach. i have switched sides. the condo buyers bought into "bad behavior & transexuals". how cool for them. now they can enjoy.
- June 16, 2012 at 9:06 PM
Interesting, though, that the hotel patrons above the Highline, putting on live sex shows in the windows, seem to be little more than a mere amusement to those who pass. Unless there was a crackdown on that, too, which I didn't hear about. Unfortunately, having lived in NYC for almost 40 years, change seems to be one of the few dependable things. In my opinion, it's too bad that most of the changes have been going in the "child-friendly" G-rated direction. Everything must be child-proofed now, and frankly, it irritates the crap out of me. It's OK, though, to have to jump out of the way in order to avoid being run down by oblivious A-type young mothers speed-walking with their strollers (weapons) while blindly multi-tasking on their cell phones. Go buy a house in Princeton and take your damn strollers with you. Yuk!
- June 17, 2012 at 7:15 PM
- chris flash said...
Q: Were you aware of the fair's presence before you bought property here? [The fair's been running for 16 years.]
A: Yes... It's only once a year.
By virtue of his buying a condo in some non-descript vertical yuppie ghetto, this moneyed-shithead feels that a street fair lasting only a few hours is intolerable to his sensiblities. So the street fair should just go away. Because HE doesn't like it.
Such fucking arrogance should be addressed in kind.... - June 18, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Thank you for writing about this. Your stroller graphic really pissed me off, though (speaking as a kinky poly queer with a baby). Wish you wouldn't put it that way.
- June 19, 2012 at 2:47 AM
Be careful what you ask for! Economic stability and recognition come at price. I don't care for it either, but times change. They replaced a strip club in Philly with a DAY CARE CENTER! They changed the Gayborhood to "Midtown Village"! There are rainbow markers on top of the street signs in the Gayborhood for crying out loud! OutFest in the fall closes off 3 square blocks. I have never seen a fenced off area for residents. It's certainly not FSE, but it's not the Iowa state fair, either.
- June 22, 2012 at 1:52 PM
The gentrification isn't worth biaching about much, its a done deal. I understand the need, but what the gay community needs is a plan. Let's call it PLAN G. There are gay men in new york as well as outside the city with more than enough money to develop an area comparable in size to west chelsea. If all the a-list fire island investor types would choose an area in say Queens or the Bronx, conveniently located near a highway entrance and a subway line, we could all move there and make it exactly like the bad ol' days we miss so much. Put in a bathhouse, a leather bar, a stripper bar, a twinkie disco and some greek diners and la voila—Ft. Lauderdale North. In the summer they could fill a side street with sand and make it a nude beach. Show a little imagination people grab a piece of the outer boros while they're still there. I don't want credit for this idea, I just want to live there. I'm even willing to rent if I can't afford to buy. If we are going to be poo-pooed by people pushing strollers then why not self-segregate. Face it, there's just too many of them. - August 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM
- tspoon108 said...
Children should be raised out of cities on farms by professional parents with 8 year degrees in parenting. They should only be seen in public when they turn 18. The world is for adults.
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Carlin and the Catholic church actually agree on something?!....
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"Queer, kinky, weird New York is vanishing at an astonishing rate-"
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January 29, 2013
By The Canadian Press
January 29, 2013, Washington, DC - A federal appeals court has ruled that the Environmental Protection Agency is overestimating the amount of fuel that can be produced from grasses, wood and other nonfood plants in an effort to promote a fledgling biofuels industry.
At issue is a 2007 renewable fuels law that requires a certain amount of those types of fuels, called cellulosic biofuels, to be mixed in with gasoline each year. Despite annual EPA projections that the industry would produce small amounts of the biofuels, none of that production materialized.
There have been high hopes in Washington that the cellulosic industry would take off as farmers, food manufacturers and others blamed the skyrocketing production of corn ethanol fuel for higher food prices. Those groups said the diversion of corn crops for fuel production raised prices for animal feed and eventually for consumers at the grocery store. Lawmakers hoped that nonfood sources like switchgrass or corn husks could be used instead, though the industry hadn't yet gotten off the ground.
The 2007 law mandated that billions of gallons of annual production of corn ethanol be mixed with gasoline, eventually transitioning those annual requirements to include more of the nonfood, cellulosic materials to produce the biofuels. As criticism of ethanol has increased, lawmakers and even Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have talked of the cellulosic materials as the future of biofuels.
But the cellulosic industry stalled in the bad economy and still hasn't produced much. According to final EPA estimates, no cellulosic fuel was produced in 2010 or 2011. Last year's estimates aren't yet available.
"What you have in our industry is a technology that is ready to go but has had a hard time punching through commercially because of a very challenging global financial climate," said Brooke Coleman of the Advanced Ethanol Council, which represents companies trying to produce cellulosic fuel. Coleman said there are better hopes for 2013 as several plants are coming online.
The court faulted the EPA for setting last year's projections at 8.7 million gallons even though the two previous years had shown no production, and also for writing in the rule that "our intention is to balance such uncertainty with the objective of promoting growth in the industry."
Judge Stephen Williams on Friday threw out too-high EPA estimates in response to a challenge filed by the American Petroleum Institute, which represents the oil industry.
Williams, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, said the law was not intended to allow the EPA "to let its aspirations for a self-fulfilling prophecy divert it from a neutral methodology."
The court rejected the oil industry's arguments that the EPA also should have lowered the total production requirement for renewable fuels once the cellulosic goals were not met, saying the EPA had authority to maintain those requirements.
Still, the oil industry praised the decision.
"The courts have reined in a mandate for biofuels that don't exist," said Bob Greco, downstream group director for the American Petroleum Institute, which brought the case. "It's a voice of reason."
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Reverend Al Sharpton has admitted to working with the FBI and recording conversations with alleged mobsters. The website The Smoking Gun published documents detailing Sharpton's involvement, saying he's the guy referred to in the document as Confidential Informant 7. This was back in the 1980s during some of the bureau's biggest mafia investigations.
As NPR's Joe Rose reports, Sharpton denies any wrongdoing.
JOEL ROSE, BYLINE: Today, Al Sharpton is a host on MSNBC, an establishment figure who rubs elbows with the president and attorney general. Back in the 1980s, he was an activist, political outsider, and secretly a source of information for the FBI.
REVEREND AL SHARPTON: I did what anybody would do that is respected and I cooperated with that.
ROSE: At a press conference today in Harlem, Sharpton said he cooperated with the FBI in the mid '80s when his life was threatened by thugs in the music industry, because he insisted that black concert promoters should play a bigger role in the industry. Sharpton says he went to the FBI who in turn asked him to record conversations with alleged mobsters, using especially equipped briefcase.
SHARPTON: We had conversations for the purposes of trying to solicit these guys to repeat the threats, and we continued having conversations around that. Conversations were recorded and I would record them today if somebody threatened me.
ROSE: Reports of Sharpton's cooperation with the FBI go back to 1988. What's new are court documents published by the website The Smoking Gun. They detail meetings between Confidential Informant 7, said to be Sharpton and alleged mafiosi.
William Bastone is the editor of The Smoking Gun. He says law enforcement sources confirm that Sharpton was CI7.
WILLIAM BASTONE: They just kept sending him back and sending him back and sending him back with the briefcase, because the wiseguy got to be very comfortable with him and spoke openly about a lot of things that the FBI was interested in hearing about.
ROSE: Things and people, like Morris Levy, a powerful music industry figure with ties to the Genovese crime family, and Vincent Chin Gigante, the family's boss. Bastone says Sharpton's connection in the music industry were helpful to the FBI.
BASTONE: This is a guy who had significant organized crime connections before he was flipped by the FBI.
ROSE: But Sharpton denies that he was friendly with mobsters. He says he knew them because at the time the music industry was full of them.
SHARPTON: They ran the music business. If you dealt with the music business at all, you had to deal with them. For the (unintelligible), if I was doing business with James Brown, I had no choice but to meet with guys who would later be alleged, or early to be alleged, to be mafia.
ROSE: The release of the documents comes just as Sharpton's National Action Network is preparing to host a convention in New York that includes scheduled speeches by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and President Obama.
But longtime Democratic consultant George Arzt doesn't foresee any long-term problems for Sharpton.
GEORGE ARZT: Everybody knew his FBI background. The only thing new is that there are official documents that now say it. I think that it adds to his luster as a New York character. And I don't think that there is anything negative in it.
ROSE: A New York character with a nightly cable news show on MSNBC. Both the network and the FBI declined comment.
Joe Rose, NPR News, New York.
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Swarm of bees delays Mariners-Angels finale
Fan, apiarist at local beehive removal company, helps grounds crew
ANAHEIM -- A swarm of bees circling through Angel Stadium delayed the Mariners' 3-2 win over the Angels for 23 minutes on Sunday when the contest was stopped midway through the bottom of the third inning.
Felix Hernandez stepped off the mound when the insects first arrived, huddling over near third baseman Kyle Seager as members of the Angels jeered him from their dugout.
Mariners manager Eric Wedge said this was a first for him.
"I've never seen bees like that," said Wedge. "I've seen quite a few instances in my days as a manager with different types of bugs, but never like that with a swarm of bees. I couldn't see them for a long time. Then finally I got my eyes fixed on them, and then I couldn't get rid of them. I didn't know what was going on out there for a while, but I'm glad nobody got stung."
Hernandez said the bees weren't actually too close to him on the mound, but he wasn't taking any chances.
"When they called timeout and I turned around, I saw them and just started running to the dugout, the [Angels] dugout," Hernandez said. "I just saw them in right field and I said, 'No, I'm not staying here.'"
The bees eventually congregated in the outfield, but did make a pass through the infield initially.
"I didn't notice them until that one inning, but mid-pitch I had them swarming around my head," said first baseman Justin Smoak. "It's the first time I've ever seen that."
Mariners right fielder Franklin Gutierrez, who has had more than his share of health misfortunes over the past few years, fled his post quickly once he figured out what was going on.
"I heard people yelling at me, telling me there were a lot of bees behind me," said Gutierrez. "But I didn't pay attention. As soon as I looked back I was, 'Oh my God. That's a lot.' That was crazy today. That was something different. … I was hoping Felix would get the [final] out. That was scary right there."
Gutierrez said he doesn't know if he's allergic to bees, but he wasn't about to find out.
"I just ran away, just in case," he said with a smile. "There were a lot of them."
Mariners defenders were eventually pulled off the field by the umpires.
The swarm circled in the right-field area, then moved out over the center-field fence, as fan John Poto -- -- an apiarist at local beehive removal company Honey Pacifico -- pursued the swarms with a Gatorade bucket that contained honey, a broom and what looked like some kind of repellent.
"That was weird. Obviously, it didn't bother Felix. He didn't crack. Kole [Calhoun] was freaking out. There was a softball-sized bee colony on the ground. It was amazing. I've never seen that before. That dude just came out of the stands, 'It's OK, I'm a beekeeper.' It was like a Seinfeld episode," said Angels starter C.J. Wilson.
The score was tied at 1 at the time of the delay. Hernandez, pitching for the first time since straining his left oblique muscle on Sept. 2, continued to pitch.
The game was delayed momentarily again in the top of the fourth when right fielder Calhoun began waving his arms at some remaining bees. Players remained on the field, though center fielder Mike Trout and Calhoun vacated their positions until an Angels grounds crew member came out and blasted a fire extinguisher at a spot in the grass in right-center field.
"That was crazy. I saw them right before they called time -- saw them in right field, moving everybody away. Thought they got rid of them all. Went out there, all the fans were yelling, 'They're on the ground! They're on the ground!' I'm looking around, and I see them swarming, I'm out of there. Saw a pile of bees, hundreds and hundreds of them, right where they dropped that honey on the ground. They were all chomping on it. There were bees everywhere. I had to call [umpire] Jim Joyce over and tell him, 'I'm not kidding, they're all over the ground,'" said Calhoun.


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CHICAGO (AP) -- Roger Ebert, the most famous and most popular film reviewer of his time who became the first journalist to win a Pulitzer Prize for movie criticism and, on his long-running TV program, wielded the nation's most influential thumb, died Thursday, the Chicago Sun-Times reported. He was 70.
Ebert had been a film critic for the Chicago Sun-Times since 1967. He had announced on his blog Wednesday that he was undergoing radiation treatment after a recurrence of cancer.
He had no grand theories or special agendas, but millions recognized the chatty, heavy-set man with wavy hair and horn-rimmed glasses. Above all, they followed the thumb -- pointing up or down. It was the main logo of the televised shows Ebert co-hosted, first with the late Gene Siskel of the rival Chicago Tribune and -- after Siskel's death in 1999 -- with his Sun-Times colleague Richard Roeper. Although criticized as gimmicky and simplistic, a "two thumbs up" accolade was sure to find its way into the advertising for the movie in question.
Despite his power with the movie-going public, Ebert wrote in his 2011 autobiography "Life Itself," that he considered himself "beneath everything else a fan."
"I have seen untold numbers of movies and forgotten most of them, I hope, but I remember those worth remembering, and they are all on the same shelf in my mind," Ebert wrote in his 2011 memoir, "Life Itself."
He was teased for years about his weight, but the jokes stopped abruptly when Ebert lost portions of his jaw and the ability to speak, eat and drink after cancer surgeries in 2006. But he overcame his health problems to resume writing full-time and eventually even returned to television. In addition to his work for the Sun-Times, Ebert became a prolific user of social media, connecting with fans on Facebook and Twitter.
The thumb logo remained the property of Ebert and Siskel's widow, and in early 2011, Ebert launched his new show, "Ebert Presents At the Movies." The show had new hosts, but featured Ebert in his own segment, "Roger's Office." He used a chin prosthesis and enlisted voice-over guests to read his reviews.
While some called Ebert a brave inspiration, he told The Associated Press in an email in January 2011 that bravery and courage "have little to do with it."
"You play the cards you're dealt," Ebert wrote. "What's your choice? I have no pain, I enjoy life, and why should I complain?"
Ebert joined the Sun-Times part time in 1966 while pursuing graduate study at the University of Chicago, and got the reviewing job the following year. His reviews were eventually syndicated to several hundred other newspapers, collected in books and repeated on innumerable websites, which would have made him one of the most influential film critics in the nation even without his television fame.
His 1975 Pulitzer for distinguished criticism was the first, and one of only three, given to a film reviewer since the category was created in 1970. In 2005, he received another honor when he became the first critic to have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Ebert's breezy and quotable style, as well as his knowledge of film technique and the business side of the industry, made him an almost instant success.
He soon began doing interviews and profiles of notable actors and directors in addition to his film reviews -- celebrating such legends as Alfred Hitchcock, John Wayne and Robert Mitchum and offering words of encouragement for then-newcomer Martin Scorsese.
In 1969, he took a leave of absence from the Sun-Times to write the screenplay for "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls." The movie got an "X'' rating and became somewhat of a cult film.
Ebert's television career began the year he won the Pulitzer, first on WTTW-TV, the Chicago PBS station, then nationwide on PBS and later on several commercial syndication services. Ebert and Siskel even trademarked the "two thumbs up" phrase.
And while the pair may have sparred on air, they were close off camera. Siskel's daughters were flower girls when Ebert married his wife, Chaz, in 1992.
"He's in my mind almost every day," Ebert wrote in his autobiography. "He became less like a friend than like a brother."
Ebert was also an author, writing more than 20 books that included two volumes of essays on classic movies and the popular "I Hated, Hated, Hated This Movie," a collection of some of his most scathing reviews.
The son of a union electrician who worked at the University of Illinois' Urbana-Champaign campus, Roger Joseph Ebert was born in Urbana on June 18, 1942. The love of journalism, as well as of movies, came early. Ebert covered high school sports for a local paper at age 15 while also writing and editing his own science fiction fan magazine.
He attended the university and was editor of the student newspaper. After his graduation in 1964, he spent a year on scholarship at the University of Cape Town in South Africa and then began work toward a doctorate in English at the University of Chicago.
Ebert's hometown embraced the film critic, hosting the annual Ebertfest film festival and placing a plaque at his childhood home.
Ebert also was embraced online in the years after he lost his physical voice. He kept up a Facebook page, a Twitter account with nearly 600,000 followers and a blog, Roger Ebert's Journal.
The Internet was where he forged relationships with his readers, posting links to stories he found interesting and writing long pieces on varied topics, not just film criticism. He interacted with readers in the comments sections and liked to post old black-and-white photos of Hollywood stars and ask readers to guess who they were.
"My blog became my voice, my outlet, my 'social media' in a way I couldn't have dreamed of," Ebert wrote in his memoir. "Most people choose to write a blog. I needed to."
Ebert wrote in 2010 that he did not fear death because he didn't believe there was anything "on the other side of death to fear."
"I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same state," he wrote. "I am grateful for the gifts of intelligence, love, wonder and laughter. You can't say it wasn't interesting."
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I've been following your blog for quite a while now and honestly, I'm quite jealous. Apart from style differences, you are doing with your blog exactly what I've always wanted to do, but just haven't gotten the courage/gumption/time to do. I know it's largely a matter of will on my part, but I'm curious as to how you do it. You have the blog, you are writing a book, sewing garments and documenting their construction, painting fabric and the list goes on and on! Are you still working for someone else? Do you sleep and do laundry? How much time does it take to maintain your blog? Make a video blog? I am just continually amazed at how much you have going on.
First, the basics. I have a full-time job editing books, and it's a creative and interesting job. It can also be pretty high-pressure, but I try to keep the bulk of my work at the office. I read manuscripts on the train and at home, so the job doesn't keep me chained to a desk for super long hours. (If you want to know more about my job, I happened to do an interview on the subject just yesterday. My interviewer was also my husband, so the post title may be a wee bit biased.)I'd love to hear your thoughts on how you are able to make time for everything that you do, and I'm sure others would as well.
As for my home life, I'm married but don't have kids. I imagine the "kid-free" part of the equation is what helps me pursue my hobbies more than anything else. I sleep about 7 hours a night. I absolutely don't do laundry! A grand thing about living in New York is that you can drop your wash off at the laundry in the morning, and pick it up, all clean and folded, on your way home. They charge by the pound and it's worth every penny. I wash my handmade dresses in a tupperware bin at home and let them line dry in the shower. I don't clean as much as I should and my husband does most of the cooking. (I wash the dishes.) I also don't go to the gym as much as I should.
The work week is pretty routine. I get home from work around 6:30 pm, and I usually have a little free time to relax. Usually this means sewing (or in the past week, painting a little), but sometimes it just means collapsing on the bed catatonically. After dinner, I get my second wind and that's when I get my real work done. I write a blog post for the next day and set it to go up at 7:00 am, a full hour before I even get up. I would say I work on my blog for 1-2.5 hours on the weekdays. If I have time left over after writing my post, I'll do something creative like work on a sewing project for a bit. Or sometimes Jeff and I put on a pot of tea, make some cookies, and watch sitcoms together. Then I shower and go to bed around midnight or so.
The weekend is when I get bigger projects done: working on my book, making a video tutorial, or just sewing for hours on end. I always sleep in. (People are generally worried about me being sleep deprived, but I'm really not!) I would say I put in a good 6-8 hours a day on the weekends working on various book, blog, and sewing projects. I break up my days into tasks I know I want to get done (i.e. finishing a chapter, hemming a dress, writing a post). Videos are quite time consuming, as you guessed. Even if they only take half an hour to shoot, the editing takes twice that usually. One thing that seems to fall by the wayside is answering reader's e-mails. (Sorry about that! I try; I really do.)
Those are the nuts and bolts of my schedule, if you will. But it's less robotic and much more intuitive and emotional than it sounds. My blog writing is generally about whatever I'm feeling most passionate about at the moment, whether it's shoes or bound buttonholes or silk painting. It's easy to be motivated when something is really speaking to you. I also keep pretty close tabs on how I'm feeling. Last week I got really overwhelmed (stressed, tired, and anxious), and that was what prompted me to take a week off blogging. I'm definitely ambitious, but I'm trying to learn when to back off and give myself a rest.
Speaking of being ambitious, I would definitely describe myself as someone who's always looking toward the next level, so I really related to this e-mail. There are so many creative women out there who seem to have it all (pattern companies, fabric lines, multiple books, etc) and I often compare myself to them. I wonder if I should be trying to make a living out of what I do in my free time (even though I think my day job rocks), or if there's something more I should be pushing myself toward, or if I'll ever be good enough to get there. When I fall down this rabbit hole of anxiety, I remind myself that it's all a process and we're all at our own place.
I didn't start my blog until after I turned 30, and I've recently been feeling so inspired creatively, like I'm getting closer to what I'm supposed to be doing. When I'm 40, maybe I'll be even closer. I'm a work in progress, no doubt.
Things will change a bit in the months to come. I'll be sewing garments for the book, so I won't be able to share what I'm working on. And the entire thing has to be finished (edited, revised, photographed, etc) this summer. But it will be a temporary thing, and I guess I'll figure it out as I go along! More to come on that front.
I hope this helps answer the question! I'd love to hear from all of you what your perspective on this matter is. How do you fit it in everything you want to do?


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Wednesday, June 3, 2009
NASCAR's Newest Reporter Could Be You
Ever felt the need to sit next to ESPN's Marty Smith in the infield media center? Maybe, share a good joke with the AP's Jenna Fryer or compare hairstyles with Scenedaily's Bob Pockrass? Now, the experience of being a NASCAR media member can be yours.
Tuesday, NASCAR announced a brand new agenda of including "citizen journalists" in the national media coverage of the sport. You know this is going to go over like a lead balloon with the free pizza and air-conditioning set.
Here are some excerpts from the press release:
The National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR) today announced its intention to invite the top independent NASCAR-related websites to join a newly-formed "NASCAR Citizen Journalists Media Corps." NASCAR is providing this group of new media access to cover the sport while maintaining their independence. The initial list of Citizen Journalists will be formally announced in the coming weeks.
The media landscape has changed dramatically in recent months especially for sports coverage. As the newspaper industry adjusts to a new age of information, NASCAR fans and former traditional media have taken it upon themselves to report, cover and opine on the sport. Today there are thousands of NASCAR related websites. Many of these sites cover the sport on a daily basis and offer unique and fresh perspectives to a large audience.
The Citizen Journalists will be selected as part of a review process including: professionalism, reporting and commentary, use of social networking tools.
"Many of these outlets have covered NASCAR from afar for many years, but now they have the opportunity to cover the sport up close and personal," said Managing Director of Corporate Communications, Ramsey Poston. "The Citizen Journalists will have the very same access as the traditional media including credentials to race events, access to media centers, press boxes, press conferences, teleconferences, news releases, video, audio, photos, stats and graphics. We expect the Citizen Journalists to maintain their journalistic independence and continue to provide unique points of view," said Poston.
While on one hand the opportunity for additional coverage of the sport is nice, what NASCAR is really saying is that most of the media pool has either been laid off, fired or had their newspapers go out of business. Full-time NASCAR reporters are a very rare breed. Many of the journalists at the races come only a handful of times a year when budgets and logistics allow.
Names like Bob Margolis, Jerry Bonkowski and Mike Mulhern used to be associated with high-profile publications and Internet sites. Now, a new breed of NASCAR reporter will be moving into the tracks with all-access credentials and a big smile. Most of us refer to the new group as bloggers.
By opening the door to bloggers, NASCAR is finally admitting that many fans get their NASCAR opinions, conversation and updates from websites that never have sent a reporter to a single race. The reason for that was simple. They were not allowed access to the media areas.
Traditional media has given way to reporters like Jeff Gluck, Pockrass, and others sending endless Twitter messages into space during the races. Every time a caution flies or Tony Stewart changes a tire the fingers fly in the infield media center. Marty Smith even admitted to the Twitter universe that he had never seen Digger before last weekend. Welcome to our world, Marty.
NASCAR's plans are a little vague when it comes to how and when all of this is going to be happening, but one thing is clear. The message is that the current crop of NASCAR reporters are unable to accomplish the kind of new media interaction that NASCAR sees happening in other professional sports.
Major NASCAR teams have their own public relations folks who coddle each Sprint Cup driver. They fill team websites with their version of news and information. Team press releases flood the TDP mailbox and their singular point of view accomplishes absolutely nothing.
NASCAR.com is supposed to be the single source for all things NASCAR, but one quick look at that site shows the new blog format and the fact that it is very light on in-depth information. The new "citizen journalists" are supposed to be featured on NASCAR.com and coordinated through that organization. Most NASCAR fans know the Turner Interactive Group runs NASCAR.com from offices in Atlanta, GA.
"We will continue to rely on the traditional media to cover the sport on a day-to-day basis, but as the media world changes so must NASCAR," said NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France.
That statement puts the official stamp on the fact that the infield media centers at the tracks are going to be opening the door to bloggers and young journalists of all types. TDP will keep you updated on how this crop of new media NASCAR reporters will be selected.
Who knows? Maybe someday soon you may be sitting between Nicole Manske and Claire B. Lang enjoying some free NASCAR media pizza at a Sprint Cup Series race.
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39 comments:
- Lesley said...
Im sorry..but If they dont delete the way you delete JD..Then maybe we have a chance at saving this sport!!(Love your site buy the way)
- June 3, 2009 at 1:44 AM
- slander q. libel said...
Only those who wish to report nice things about NASCAR need apply...
- June 3, 2009 at 3:10 AM
- bevo said...
Color me skeptical about NASCAR's motives here. Looks more like an effort to assimilate independent voices, schmooze them and get them addicted to "access" then control the message. Any blogger that does this is going to instantly lose any credibility they have.
p.s. Please don't do this JD! :) - June 3, 2009 at 3:13 AM
- Tony Solorzano said...
Gee, I wonder if that would get me back into Fontana when the series is in town...
- June 3, 2009 at 3:45 AM
- Anonymous said...
The one flaw in this plan is that very few website "reporters" will be able to afford to travel to the races. Most will be covering the race from what they see/hear/read on tv, mrn or press releases. This means what they see will already be filtered.
- June 3, 2009 at 7:03 AM
- 50 yr. fan said...
Sounds like another way to control
the "messenger" to me, but maybe
Na$car recognizes their schilling
website is lacking in content.
Keep up the great work JD! - June 3, 2009 at 7:55 AM
- majorshouse said...
It seems a little skeptical to me as well. Most of us cannot afford to go to the races and considering what I have seen in the media lately about NASCAR, I am not so sure they want my biased politically incorrect opinions.
- June 3, 2009 at 8:01 AM
- OSBORNK said...
I think it is just a PR stunt by NA$CAR. They have no intention of having anyone report that is struly independent. In the papers I read, NA$CAR exposure has dropped dramatically. There is now an occasional warmed over AP NA$CAR story in place of the pages of coverage of years past that were done by the paper's staff.
- June 3, 2009 at 8:16 AM
- Anonymous said...
I'm very suspicious of NASCAR's motives in this. Citizen journalists? This sounds like the credentialled journalists are like the active duty military and the citizen journalists are the National Guard.
If they decide to let the "citizens" report, they'll have to do so within the confines of Article 4 on the credential application form which states that they can only report what NASCAR approves.
Kool Aid drinkers only need apply. - June 3, 2009 at 8:23 AM
- Tracy D said...
I can't wait to see how this shakes out. Put me in the corner with those who don't believe this can be a good thing. . .
As someone else said, who has the money to travel to the races, if the print and other media don't? - June 3, 2009 at 9:48 AM
- E-Ticket said...
Hey I will give NASCAR a pass on this. They have to do something to get people excited about NASCAR maybe this will help. All of the ills that JD points out between lackluster coverage, No TV network. NASCAR films not having an outlet for their amazing work. Maybe they can turn a corner and this is the start. I would love to watch a sport that is not centered on one person.. They have to figure out how to do that and this is a start..
- June 3, 2009 at 10:21 AM
- Near Philly said...
Since all I would do is re-word Anon @ 8:23 AM, I'll just say I agree with them.
- June 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM
- Anonymous said...
Oh, goody, even more fans wandering around the garage and pit road, getting photos and autographs while they are "reporting."
Just what we need. - June 3, 2009 at 10:38 AM
- GinaV24 said...
Gee, and to think I won't be going to any more races until September. I agree, JD, with so many of the people who used to write about the sport for their newspapers being fired or shut down, there is a lack of reporters probably at the race, except for the ESPN, Fox, TNT folks. Personally, I'd rather read your blog. I just can't see NASCAR actually pulling this off -- they aren't big on anyone offering opinions that don't agree with their view of the world. NASCAR.com is a joke - one of the worst websites to use by far.
- June 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM
- Anonymous said...
Great idea on NASCAR's part. It's about time they recognize the impact new media has. I bet more NASCAR fans get their NASCAR news from the various blogs and websites instead of the the AP or Charlotte Observer. It's about time those members of the new media were allowed better access.
- June 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM
- Anonymous said...
I am beginning to think that NASCAR can do no right in the eyes of some fans. This is an excellent initiative to reach out to new media, which NASCAR has admittedly been behind in doing. For crying out loud, they are opening up their media center to bloggers for better access! How in the world is this bad? Oh, that's right - NASCAR announced it, so it must be bad.
I've recently been discussing a phenomenon with friends where people love something so much that they hate it. You see it often with Star Wars, as a classic example. The most serious die-hard fans love Star Wars so much that they have come full circle and now hate it -- they hate that it isn't good enough, that it doesn't live up to this mythical status in their heads, that it isn't as good as it used to be, etc. etc.
I see the same thing with NASCAR - I see so many fans that love NASCAR so much that they in fact end up hating NASCAR. The result is that they despise every decision made by NASCAR, criticize every move made by NASCAR, and disbelieve NASCAR at every turn. So if they announce they will let bloggers into the media center, there must be a secret agenda we don't know about. If they suspend a driver using drugs, it must be a conspiracy theory. If they do anything it is automatically wrong in the eyes of the fans.
So sad. - June 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM
- jimmymac said...
This is very intriguing. My wife has been successful personal finance blogger and was approached by a major retailer about participation in a "social media" group. Just like we see here, there were many skeptics. I must say that in my wife's experience in her situation, it has turned out to be a good thing.
The skepticism in understandable. It will be interesting to see how and if this works. - June 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM
- glenc1 said...
I am surprisingly not as skeptical as some of you. I think JD's right, it just means they have open spots in the media room, and also acknowledging blogging, but it's still being more open than usual. The travel question certainly intrigues. Now, if they had rotating passes so that you could apply for races you could attend or something...maybe.
Years ago I wrote--maybe a dozen pieces--for a now-defunct website. The owner used to promise garage passes, but he was not a person of, shall we say, honest character...in any case, I used to imagine myself there, side by side with the powers that be, lol. I would think that if you get a press pass, though, they would require you to understand reporter etiquette, ie, NOT asking for autographs, etc (although I imagine that happens from time to time once a person has credibility.) I fail to see how they can censor someone with a wireless laptop, so perhaps they just expect people to be professional about it. If you got childish, they could revoke it.
Ya know, I saw Mike Helton at a restaurant a few years back and was *sooooo* tempted to say a few words, but etiquette reared its ugly head and I decided to let the man eat his chicken in peace (or pieces...) - June 3, 2009 at 1:26 PM
- Anonymous said...
If they do anything it is automatically wrong in the eyes of the fans.
While I disagree with this, I'd offer an explanation of why it may happen:
NASCAR isn't the most transparent organization around--even you have to admit that.
Personally, I'm waiting for the first blogger who writes something sufficiently critical of NASCAR to get their credential pulled.
Then we'll see some fireworks! - June 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM
- darbar said...
Pick Me !!!! Pick Me!!! I need a job. I can write, sometimes.
OK, here are my demands
1. Private jet to and from the tracks from my home in Wisconsin.
2. My own assigned seat in an air conditioned area at every track. I will accept a seat in one of the luxury boxes.
3. A daily stipend for food and beverages and an entertainment budget.
4. A suite in the best hotels in the area, close to the track. If the hotel is more than 10 miles away, I need a private helicopter to get me to and from the track. I'm NOT waiting in long traffic lines. I'm too good for that.
5. A salary equal to that of the highest paid crew chief. I'm worth at least that much.
6. Nascar paid health insurance, a 401K, company car, Nascar pension plan, paid vacation and finally, and most important, a date with Dale Earnhardt Jr.
In return for all the above, I promise to drink the Nascar Kook Aid, never to write anything negative about the sport or it's big wigs and I will be a cheerleader for Brian France/Mike Helton and anyone else in authority. - June 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM
- Anonymous said...
David Poole used to write critical things about NASCAR all the time. He would write articles and columns damning them for a decision or action. His credential was never pulled. They named a press room after him. Lighten up, guys.
- June 3, 2009 at 3:54 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
I think the recent so-called reporting about Jeremy Mayfield is a perfect example of the anti-NASCAR bias in the old-line media - that is the media that is now or was newspaper based. If NASCAR is controlling what is reported about it, then it is doing an even worse job at that than making the COT sexy.
- June 3, 2009 at 4:22 PM
- Anonymous said...
David Poole used to write critical things about NASCAR all the time. He would write articles and columns damning them for a decision or action. His credential was never pulled. They named a press room after him. Lighten up, guys.
The lead NASCAR reporter for the Charlotte Observer will always be treated differently (i.e., better) than Mr. Blogger working out of his home. - June 3, 2009 at 5:19 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
On further reflection, is Mulhern part of the current "traditional media" or a candidate to be a "Citizen Journalist" since he is now writes for his independent blog?
- June 3, 2009 at 5:57 PM
- Anonymous said...
Perhaps, but the point is that NASCAR has been hosting a free press that has at times had a field day with critical reporting, and we have not seen any NASCAR shennanigans in terms of silencing reporters or using the power of the credential to block bad stories. So to suddenly imagine it happening now - on the very pilot program NASCAR announced - is kinda silly. Obviously NASCAR is just trying to reach out to the 21st century media, and serious bloggers are a big part of that. Offering access is a positive move and anyone who thinks otherwise just has a chip on their shoulder against NASCAR.
- June 3, 2009 at 5:59 PM
- glenc1 said...
anon 5:59, while I agree with some of your thoughts, I also don't blame people with a chip on their shoulder...NASCAR has generally created those negative feelings by making poor choices in the past. I'm just an optimist, lol. And like you, I don't think they'd invite them in only to kick them out. It isn't just Poole who has been critical, Hinton, Mulhern, etc have as well. My argument has been more with the TV people, and NASCAR has always had the screws tighter on them than the rest of the press. I think because most 'readers' are more hardcore fans, not the casual ones they want to attract with TV.
- June 3, 2009 at 7:42 PM
- Anonymous said...
Well said glenc1. The TV and Sirius radio folks are all vanilla and are afraid to say anything controversial. It is the dying print media like Poole who hit NASCAR hard on the tough issues. Now Poole is gone, Mulhern is gone, Hinton is gone as newpapers are becoming history.
- June 3, 2009 at 8:11 PM
- Karen said...
Darbar, loved your comment.
- June 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM
- Matt TSB said...
I guess the biggest question I have is "Why?" This blog is a beacon of light in the darkness of the blogosphere. As much as I sometimes disagree with Mr. Daly, his blog is invariably well written, with fully developed thoughts, correct grammar, a discernable point of view, and at least one trip through the 'ole spellchecker before a post sees the light of day. That's a lot more than I can say for many of the blogs I have seen, whether covering Nascar or anything else.
Just because you have a website doesn't mean you have anything worth saying, or in many cases, even the ability to actually say whatever it is you are trying to get across. How many of these people need to be in the center to write their weekly "Junior Stinks" or "Quit Picking on Junior" posts? - June 3, 2009 at 9:56 PM
- Anonymous said...
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- June 3, 2009 at 9:56 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
When the Mayfield issue moves to the media, probably on the day of the court date, we will update it.
In the meantime, you can post on our last Mayfield article or move to SPEED or ESPN.com, both of whom have Mayfield stories posted.
JD - June 3, 2009 at 9:59 PM
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- June 3, 2009 at 10:10 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
For those of you stopping by TDP for the first time, this is a NASCAR TV and media blog.
We talk primarily about the NASCAR TV partners who are in the third year of a multi-billion dollar TV contract with NASCAR.
Topics sometimes spill over into the reporters and media websites associated with the sport.
Each of our posts is an opinion piece on one subject. We then ask for your opinion on that same subject.
This is the third season of TDP. We average 25 thousand page views a day and more on the weekends. Our content is re-published on multiple NASCAR-related websites around the country. Thanks to Google, this blog is also available in Spanish, German and French.
Thanks for stopping by, hope you can return and offer some views on the topics being discussed here.
JD - June 3, 2009 at 10:29 PM
- Anonymous said...
Good morning, first things first, autograph seeking is a great way to lose your media credentials, just ask those who do coverage. Currently most media centers / deadline rooms are almost full and the overflow rooms are also full of photographers. Travel to the races is not free nor are the requisite hotel rooms. And good grammer skills as opposed to "buy the way" are required as are appropriate dress and laptops. Not quite the free lunch that was imagined.
- June 4, 2009 at 8:19 AM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
I understand that good grammar is important. Thanks for the tips, by the way.
- June 4, 2009 at 10:01 AM
- Unknown said...
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- June 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM
- Hotaru1787 said...
Hey, if this comes to pass, I'd be up for it. I've done some writing for another site in the past (could not continue due to various circumstances; ie, lack of focus, me getting in trouble at school for working on my articles)
But I think I'd get in trouble for 'stalking' a certain Ford driver... *wink wink* - June 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
JD- Could this be NASCAR's way of trying to encourage newspapers and other professional media to send rep's more often? If you don't use your seat, we'll let someone else.
- June 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM
- Unknown said...
Is there any information on when these credentials are going to be made available? Or how we apply for them?
I'm a freelance photographer & sports blogger living in Daytona. It would be great to get a little closer to the action than what I have been allowed in the past. Especially with the Coke Zero coming up next weekend. - June 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM


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