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While some Salinas residents applauded the actions of a man who shot two robbery suspects on Thursday, killing one, community leaders cautioned that the case was unique and the investigation is still unfolding.
"It raises uncomfortable questions," said Brian Contreras, director of 2nd Chance Family and Youth Services in Salinas. "But you don't want to be an armchair quarterback."
Police have identified the slain teen as Jose Antonio Ceja, 17. Around 6:45 p.m., Thursday, police said, Ceja and another 17-year-old boy held up staff and customers of the Saltillo Tortilleria and Mexican Deli at 1590 N. Sanborn Road, demanding money at gunpoint.
Police said a 36-year-old man outside retrieved a handgun from his car, entered, and shot the two youths. His identity has not been disclosed, but police said he is associated with someone who was inside the deli.
The wounded robbers ran out but were soon driven to a local hospital in a private vehicle. Ceja died that night. The surviving teenager, also 17, underwent surgery and was taken by helicopter to a San Francisco Bay Area trauma hospital.
A cousin of Ceja is in custody after he went on an apparent rampage shortly after his younger relative was killed. Officers said that a few minutes after the shooting, 18-year-old Eduardo Ceja opened fire, striking random vehicles and a residence a few blocks north of the scene.
He has been booked into Monterey County Jail on suspicion of shooting into an inhabited vehicle or dwelling, violation of probation, gang charges and resisting an officer.
Police Cmdr. Vince Maiorana said detectives spoke Monday to the surviving robbery suspect, who remains hospitalized.
Teen's condition improves
They said his condition, initially considered "very critical," has improved, and police said he is expected to be transferred to Monterey County Juvenile Hall on suspicion of robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery.
Police have said the shooter of the two teens was justified in trying to defend others in a life-threatening situation, and they do not plan to ask that charges be filed against him when the case is referred to the District Attorney's Office.
After police and news media referred to the shooter as a "good Samaritan," the shootings have been the talk of the town.
"I understand the frustration of the community," Contreras said. "We're tired of all the violence. Tired of hearing about people shot while riding their bicycles. But that's not the call for people to take up guns. I also understand some of those people who are like, 'Those were 17-year-old kids.'"
Contreras said he was in a Salinas café where "customers at one table were saying 'It's about damn time we took back our streets.' At the other table, people were overhearing and saying 'How can people be so callous? That was a young life that was lost.' ... there is so much crime and violence and lost souls, it affects everybody. This community is going through a lot."
Mayor Dennis Donohue said the good Samaritan description of the shooter is "technically accurate — somebody chose to get involved. I think everybody agrees that this individual did something very understandable. Who wouldn't protect their son or daughter?
"Somebody who chooses to risk their life on behalf of others, I think we all can appreciate anybody who does that, because they are potentially putting themselves in harm's way."
He cautioned, however, that not enough is known yet about the events of that night.
"This incident has some very specific elements and it should not be used as an example. The basic message remains the same: violence begets violence."
Donohue said the incident also underscores his call for more police funding — something he has pushed for heavily as his last term in office winds down.
"The guys walk into a store with a gun. If you've got a gun, that implies you might do something else," he said. "We want to make sure that those who wish this community ill, we're going to be able to respond."
He said the violence prevention and intervention response in Salinas "has been extraordinary, the number of people who want to make a difference. But we need to have the necessary law enforcement assets to support that. This police department is really being taxed but continues to go above and beyond, stretching themselves and working hard to protect this community. But from a resource standpoint they're getting pushed to the brink. And it matters. Folks may be frustrated, but in my view, there's a clear answer."
The Rev. Frank Gomez, a member of the county's Clergy Council and the Community Alliance for Safety and Peace and a chaplain at Natividad Medical Center, said his reaction to the shootings was "sadness and dismay."
"I do not believe it was necessary that this young boy died," he said. "At the same time I want to be fair to the shooter, wondering what the normal reaction is of anyone that finds a loved one in danger. Obviously, his reaction was to shoot at the robbers."
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He said use of the term "good Samaritan" bothers him.
"It might encourage others to take the law into their own hands. The fact that we have not been provided with details makes us wonder all kinds of scenarios, and that's not good either," he said.
"I really believe that a situation like this calls for trained people to deal with it, like our police department. Citizens are not trained in what might be considered best practice."
He said his thoughts have also been with the families of the teens.
"These boys may have been doing what they're doing, but they have mothers and siblings and they are grieving. There are people that do extend heartfelt condolences for their loss. People tend to forget that there's other people involved and it's not those two boys.
"There's going to be a lot of people praising the shooter," he said. "I just don't want the other side to be forgotten."
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A mother who lost her son hugged the mother of the man who shot him after he was sentenced to prison Wednesday.
Johndrick Lors Levert Barnes, 21, of Augusta, pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the March 19, 2011, shooting of James Sterling "Jamie" Gillette Jr., 19.
Superior Court Chief Judge J. Carlisle Overstreet sentenced Barnes to five years in prison, with credit for the nearly two years he already has served, followed by two years' probation and a $1,000 fine. The hearing took place at the Columbia County Justice Center in Evans.
Gillette's mother, Michelle Stewart Baker, and Barnes' mother, Kesia Sampson, and their families vowed to work together to help prevent other families from the same outcomes.
"Unity is power," Sampson said. "Turn the bad into the good. … Unity is power, and we're going to work together."
Overstreet urged Barnes to dedicate time during his probation to CSRA Saving our Students, which Baker and Gillette's aunt, Anita Mills, started. Through the organization, they promote gun safety, bullying awareness and good decision-making in Richmond County schools.
"We've suffered a tragedy," Baker said. "We want to do whatever we can do to save other children and families from having to go through the same thing."
Gillette was an employee of the Belair Conference Center, where he was working a 16th birthday party for one of soul singer James Brown's granddaughters. Word of the party spread, and about 200 people showed up. Fights broke out inside, so guests were ushered outside. Gillette was holding the door for people to go outside when shooting started in the parking lot.
Barnes shot a .380-caliber pistol into the air, and a stray bullet hit Gillette.
Assistant District Attorney Rex Myers said that it is clear a bullet from Barnes' gun killed Gillette but that he doesn't believe it was an intentional shooting.
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It is estimated that 1,300 people in the Buffalo region require dialysis treatment for kidney failure – a number that continues to increase by about 12% annually.
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The DAC is located on the 4th floor of the hospital (Main building). For more information, or to make an appointment, please call the Dialysis Access Center at 819-9750.
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Arguably Britain's greatest production designer, Alfred Junge was born in Germany and spent his teenage years working as an apprentice to a painter. At eighteen he was "kissed by the Muse" and began working in theater, painting sets, designing costumes, and operating special effects. In the late 1920s he began working with British International Pictures and later Gaumont British where he gained a reputation not only for his brilliant designs but also for his organizational skills in running a large staff of art directors and craftsmen.
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First Assembly of God in Clarksville will host an old-fashioned revival beginning at 6:30 p.m. Monday through Friday with evangelist Keith and Donna Walker of Fresno, Calif. Sunday worship is at 10:45 a.m. and 6 p.m. For more information, call 857-4042.
Revival at FBC in Ola on Sunday
First Baptist Church (FBC) in Ola will host a revival at 11 a.m. Sunday and 7 p.m. nightly through Wednesday. Bro. Randy Davis will lead. Bro. Bill Hatfield, pastor of FBC, will direct the music. Everyone is invited.
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Community in Unity will host its sixth annual fall fest at 7:30 p.m. Sept. 30 at James School Park on South Independence Aveue in Russellville. A parade will be at 9:30 a.m. Oct. 1. Entertainment includes gospel singing, family fun, a parade, food and games. For more information, call Chandra at 968-1859.
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First Baptist Church in Centerville will host a "back to church" event beginning at 10 a.m. Sunday. Church service will be at 11 a.m. A potluck dinner will follow. Sunday evening service is at 6 p.m. and Wednesday evening service is at 6:30. Everyone is invited.
Women's Retreat on Saturday
New Release Faith Church Assembly in Dardanelle will host its seventh annual Women's Retreat at 2 p.m. Saturday. Pre-registration is at 1:45 p.m. The theme is "Tea for Two — Me and You." Cost is $8. The location is at the corner of 3rd St. and Harrison St. in Dardanelle. For more information, call 886-3484.
Grief support group Wednesdays
First United Methodist Church (FUMC) will host a grief support group at 2 p.m. on Wednesdays in the conference room of FUMC, 304 S. Commerce Ave. in Russellville. Childcare is provided. For more information, call Pastor Gail at 968-1232.
Community fundraiser Oct. 1
Harmony Gardens: Feeding Body and Soul will host a community fundraiser from 3-7 p.m. Oct. 1 at the corner of Commerce Ave. and Fourth Street to finance a meditation garden and community vegetable garden. Cost is $12 for adults, $6 for children 12 and under, and families will pay a maximum of $36. The menu includes pulled pork sandwiches, beans, coleslaw, dessert and drinks. Harmony Gardens is a project of First United Methodist Church in Russellville. Tickets are available by calling the church office at 968-1232 or purchase meals the day of the fundraiser.
Dye to preach, sing Sunday
The Rehoboth Assembly of God will feature Kara Dye, 18, from Western Grove, ministering in word and song on Sunday during the morning worship service at Buttermilk Road near Appleton in the Buttermilk Community. Sunday school begins at 10 a.m. and morning worship at 11 a.m. Pastor Phillip Collie invites everyone to attend. For more information, call 264-7276.
Bluegrass concert Sept. 30
Lonoke Missionary Baptist Church will host a gospel bluegrass concert at 7 p.m. Sept. 30 five miles north of Morrilton on State Highway 9. Features will be IBMA male vocalist of the year Russell Moore and IIIrd Tyme Out. Tickets are $18 for adults. Children 12 and under are free. To purchase tickets, call (501) 354-8616 or online at www.lonokemissionarybaptist.org.
'A Journey Retreat' Oct. 8
All Saints' Episcopal Church in Russellville will host "A Journey Retreat" from 9:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Oct. 8. Registration and continental breakfast will be from 9-9:30 a.m. or register online at www.allsaintsrussellville.org. For more information, call All Saints' at 968-3622 from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Monday through Thursday.


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Discussion in 'Strings' started by SteveI, Dec 25, 2011.
This reminds me of the classic, "Can I ask you a question?"
Nope not me. I just bought the 1st reel of BHB7 17G to get this stuff tested on TW. I sold all the sets in about 3 hours..and did not keep enough for myself. I have no special deal with Tourna...just thought it was a nice idea and fun for everyone to test out a new string that really interested me...
I made no money on that reel.. and in fact did not even break even...
BTW... that last set of string I sent your way never came back to me.. I am guessing some postal worker is doing his own playtest of BHB7...LOL
Have a good one..
BTW... can I ask you a question?...
I am having good results 52/48... At 56/52 the bed was a bit too stiff for my tastes. I enjoy a somewhat softer stringbed. You may have different needs.
Was thinking of getting this string also. Can anyone tell me, will I get more spin from a full bed of BHB7 than from a hybrid of Klip Natural gut in the mains and BHB7 cross, psoobily at 55/52 tension?
What would the power also be?
I would think you would get a lot more spin out of the full bed of BHB7 than the hybrid. Power, on the other hand, is debatable.
I still don't understand how some people are getting more spin with the BHBR than the BHB7. Maybe it is a different kind of spin, but BHB7 gives me just as much spin as the best poly's i've used.
BHB7 Mains 52 lbs + Gosen OG Micro 17 @ 55 lbs feels good. No elbow pain at all.. Great overall.
i found that stringing the X higher takes out a lot of the BHB7 characteristic advantages,
and making the sweetspot very small, resulting in poor control etc..
55/53 is another world. i'll probably stick with this.
i was tempted to string the x even 2-3 lbs lower, but decided to test this first.
i like the bhb7 even more knowing theres no more elbow pain by decreasing the tension. I would restring my other racket reversed and see if it is even better.. ill do my mains with Gosen 17g 55lbs and bhb7 cross at 52lbs today. Though im used to stringing my racket at 58+ i personally believe in this case anything over 52 on BHB7 gave me discomfort. At one point i tried the BHB7 on the mains at 58lbs - 56lbs - 54lbs and gave me slight elbow pain.
sorry, by crosses i meant a multi string, and BHB7 in mains.
Kind of Disappointed with BHB7 now... It broke on me after about 10 hours of hitting in a hybrid with OGSM 18g in the crosses. I have NEVER broken polyester before... I also broke my BHS/OGSM Hybrid right after that, which I played on a lot more, but kind of surprised me because it didn't feel dead or anything like that.
What gauge are you using on the BHB7? Recommend 16 if you aren't using it already. I broke my BHB7 quicker than some of the other polys I use also, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing..especially if performance stays consistent over that time frame (which it did). A lot of the other polys will lose a great deal of feel after a few hours anyway.
Stringing BHB7 is a lot easier than BHBR too, so I don't mind stringing a bit more often. I strung two racquets with full BHBR last night and by the end of the second I was ready to throw it out. If you can keep it straight, it's not a big deal
if you're using BHB7 17 gauge then the 16 will be perfect for you. it's not really thick as 16. almost like 17.
Yeah, I was using 17, guage, but I think BHS 17 fits my game a bit better I'm more of an all court player and I hit pretty flat at times. Especially big flat serves.
but you didn't try the 16, did you? please try.
A few questions based on the thread.
1. How many hours of play are you getting out of the BHB7 (and if you've used BHBR, how much did you get out of that)?
2. I'm using a 16x18 frame (Yonex RQis 1 Tour XL) and I've had a couple folks here recommend 16g instead of 17g, but I don't know why the 16 would be better. Ideas?
3. I currently have a hybrid setup, BHBR 17g in mains, BHB7 17g in crosses, and the spin is filthy, but it's a little lower power than I'd like. Would swapping the mains and crosses make the power more or even less?
This stuff is amazing; if I can figure out how to get enough power on my serve to hold up and if my elbow holds up I'm ready to start buying reels of it up.
1. Not sure how many hours i'm getting on average yet. First set lasted me about 5-6 hours.
2. The 16 gauge pretty much looks like a 17 gauge- it is that thin. You definitely want to go 16.
3. I think you'd probably get less power with BHB7 in the mains and BHBR in the crosses. That's the hybrid i'm going to be using this weekend. BHBR is higher powered. You are the only person I have heard that says it is low power. Go full bed of BHBR or drop tension if you want more power.
What tension did you use
bhbr mains is more power. Bhb7 is cutting slice spin: bhb7/bhbr. 17g is ok if you don't or can't keep it in anyway.
Thanks, guys!
J Aces, I went 50/47. Thoughts?
I may buy a reel of BHBR and try it as a full bed first to see if that's my cup of tea (and if my arm can take it; I seem to recall reading BHB7 is a good bit easier on the arm than BHBR).
BMR, I'm used to playing with Wilson NXT17 or Babolat Tonic, so any poly would probably feel low powered to me. I love the low power on groundstrokes. I just have to learn to get more plow through from my service motion and I'll be all set!
10 hrs is really good. i got all of ~4 hrs out of mine. snapped the 2nd main right in the middle sweet spot. started going dead and the mains were moving all over at the 3 hr mark. from 3 hrs onward, i got alot less spin but directional control was still surprisingly good right up until it snapped.
i got ~4 hrs out of my hybrid setup of BHB7/Polystar Energy. played really well for the first 2 hours. started to lose some spin after 2 hrs. BHB7 mains started moving all over at 3 hrs. even then, i was still getting decent control.
bhb7 17g @ 50lbs mains and Gosen 17g@ 52 cross didnt work for me. too powerful for my game.
Ill stick with BHB7 17g @52lbs mains and gosen 17g @ 55lbs crosses
But he's No.2 in the world and a world class athlete, so you're not exactly comparing like for like. Go compare Nadal with a full bed of gut, to Nadal with a full bed of poly.
The spin a lings caused more spin than Nadal hits, as his shots don't go 3' over his opponents heads. They are not legal, but are extremely fun. If you exaggerate your brush, it is insane spin.
spin a ling
The edges of the straws rip into, and then fold over, the ball. I hereby copy right this invention and trade mark the name: spin a ling.
So I just hit a bit with Luxilon Rough mains and NXT crosses at 53lbs and I wasn't super impressed after my awesome run with BHB7/OGSM and BHS/OGSM Luxilon is nice, but I really don't think it's worth the price
Does anyone else feel that BHB7 had little loss in tension, but a big loss in spin?
I haven't noticed that at all. The tension maintenance seems really good right up until it breaks. The string definitely notches more easily than some other polys i've used, but I don't know why the spin characteristics would change much.
yes, i've experienced this. BHB7 holds tension ok, not great, but i start seeing reduced spin at the 2 hr mark and a much bigger loss in spin at the 3 hr mark which also corresponds to when the mains stop snapping back.
spin levels drop for a couple of reasons...the sharp edges of the string get dull and smooth after repeated poundings against the ball and no longer have the same bite on the ball. the string stops snapping back when it has lost its elasticity and starts going dead.
I haven't noticed any parts of the string going dull or smooth..it just notches. I'll take a closer look at my racquet tonight, but haven't observed that. It has stayed very consistent for me.
i've noticed all the structured strings will begin losing their edge after 2-6 hours.
It's a thinner version if you use a thinner stirng, otherwise it's the same string!
I've noticed that my BHB7 went completely smooth after an hour of hard hitting. But I didn't feel any loss of spin at that point.
Is this a comparable/competitor to RPM Blast? I hope so...it's cheaper!
^^ it's better than RPM Blast
Better string for 1/2 the price.. can't beat it..
I've posted about this in the rackets section too, but I'd like to ask here as well;
I strung up my IGPMP yesterday with 17g @ 55lbs (full bed) and just finished playing with it, and it just was not working for me at all today. I'm coming from TF Black code 16, and the BHB7 just felt so "boardy," as if the whole racket tightened up. I did notice the spin, but that was about it. It only felt good when I hit in the sweetspot, but aside from that it just felt bad. The BC just felt plush all around, just not sure what's going on.
I do like the spin aspect of the string so I do want to give it another whirl, but do you guys know if it strings up tight/will it soften up more? I also have a half set of TF X1 BP around somewhere, was thinking about a hybrid with BHB7, has anyone tried that as well?
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^ Maybe you went to tight, maybe there was a glitch in the stringing, or maybe you're not hitting through the ball enough because the 17 shouldn't feel boardy at 55 (assumed it was on a crank?).
In fact, the Prestige MP was one racquet that I thought the 17 worked very well with (apart from on volleys or in touch play, where that springiness became a hindrance) though the Prestige I used was a leaded up Youtek version.
I strung up my pro tour 630 with bhb7 at 55 mains and 53 crosses and it didnt feel boardy to me, the spin was fantastic as was the control. I got a lot more power than i was expecting. I do have a little bit of led at 3, 9 and also 12 so that may have helped
I think I'm going to have to invest in a reel of this string! it's amazing!!! I can string it up in 40 minutes (I know it seems slow, but that's really stinking fast for me on my gamma x-2) and it plays fine, even if I don't do the best job on it. I like the comfort and the pop that it gives me! (it is way louder and more powerful than Luxilon BB Rough 17 and a bit more forgiving in a way) I think I just need to stick with one kind of string for a while and this might be a winner!
So I hit again today and boy it played so much better. The stringbed loosened up a bit (I tried applying some pressure to middle of stringbed) and played so much softer. I was actually enjoying hitting with it and didnt want to stop!
I guess next time I will string a bit lower or just let the tension settle in. But there were still hints of "boardiness" on some off center hits. But that's to be expected with any string.
Next time string the crosses a little lower which should help
I broke another set of the BHB7 over the weekend. This one lasted a bit longer than the last..i'm thinking somewhere at the 7-8 hour mark. I did notice that the notches really smoothed out toward the end; maybe I missed that on the first set because they broke a lot sooner.
I didn't really notice a big drop-off in spin, despite the smoothing of the strings. I was getting a little annoyed with how my volleys were really spraying out a lot. I barely touched a couple of them and they just took off. So that's the part that is real difficult when i'm playing doubles, not so much in singles. I might have to get a different setup for doubles. I still haven't found the magic middle ground for groundies/volleys. It seems like what you give up in on area will also make another more difficult.
I remember liking Big Hitter Silver before...I may give the Big Hitter Silver Rough a shot, because I've always enjoyed playing with LUX Alu Rough. I remember volleying really well with that string also.
BMR, I've been playing BHSR17 the last few months and enjoying it, its a good combination of power and control with good spin, and its more forgiving on the arm than LUX Alu Rough. I've been going up in tension with it from about 48 to 52 now and am considering 55. Its feels very powerful in the low tension range, curious how it will hit for you at 60.
Strung the 17 gauge up with bhbr 17 as a cross (ran out of bhb7 on the last cross). This is in a 4d 300 tour, strung at 51 lbs constant pull.
I can see what people are saying about the ball really going through the court. The ball really exploded forward in the direction it was hit. It was very different from bhbr.
groundstrokes: plenty of spin, and nice pop. Really helped out my backhand going cross court.
Serves: this is where I struggled. I just couldn't hit flat or kick serves. Slice serves were great though.
Volleys: I play doubles for my varsity team, so I need to have good feel. Fresh, it's ok to volley with. But after 5 hours if play, volleys were tough.
For a singles baseliner with topspin strokes, this is a great string. A bit better than bhbr. A 9.5/10 in my book.
Can anyone give a comparison of the 16 gauge to Genesis Typhoon or Twisted Razor?
just did a hybrid with BHB in the mains, wilson stamina in the crosses, both at 63. let you guys know how they hit tonight.
I've been hitting with BHB7 17G for two weeks now and love the string... for the most part. Great spin, great power, very comfortable, but the durability is terrible. It's lasting maybe 4 hours per set. Should I go up to the 16G? Seems that the gauges are pretty thin anyway, so maybe 16G wont be too bad?
Try the 16g. For some reason I can't break bhbr 17 but easily break bhb7 17. Haven't tried the 16 yet myself
I've noticed a few of you are using Gamma X2 stringers.How tight are you adjusting your clamps? I just strung a full bed And I couldn't get the clamps tight enough to prevent slippage without marking the string.
I love the way this stuff plays, but I hate stringing it. I find it much harder to weave than BHBR or other polys. It reminds me of stringing Volkl Cyclone.
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DTI, Patent Office get started on Gowers
A hand-picked group of 40 small businesses in the UK is to be offered "intellectual property health checks" by the Department of Trade and Industry, in line with recommendations laid out in the Gowers review on intellectual property.
Recommendation 27 of the review says: "Improve SME business IP support by establishing formal collaboration between the Patent Office and Business Link and by conducting a pilot replicating the French 'IP Genesis' scheme."
Science and innovation minister Malcolm Wicks said the firms will be invited to attend a three-day workshop piloted by the UK Patent Office and the regional development agencies.
The idea is that the firms will be able to identify what IP they actually have, before being advised on how best to protect it. But also, according to Lawrence Smith-Higgin of the UK's patent office, they will be made aware of when they are using IP, and so reduce their exposure to litigation.
"For example, a hairdresser's might have a small CRM database, but have they considered making sure they are properly licensed?" he told us. "They also need to know how to secure the rights to the music they play while they are cutting hair."
The firms will be drawn from a variety of sectors including manufacturing and service, but high tech companies will also be invited to take part. They will be selected with the help of the regional development agencies, based on who those agencies feel would benefit from an audit. All 40 places on the scheme will be filled.
The pilot will run for the rest of the year, and a full report should be published in January of 2008.
Smith-Higgin said that based on his own experience of doing IP audits for firms, the report was all but certain to conclude that the audits were worthwhile.
"I've done some audits in the past, and whatever business you are in, you can guarantee that if you are not creating IP, you will be using it," he said.
"It will be more about the detail and the logistics," he went on. "If this is useful, how do we make sure it is made available to more businesses in the UK? Who, other than us, could deliver the audits?" ®
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Facebook IPO draws lawsuits
Original post made on May 29, 2012
Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 4:27 PM
a resident of University South
on May 29, 2012 at 5:02 pm
I used FB less and less these days and so do my friends. I looked at it about once a week and have NEVER bought anything from the site. I don't even look at the ads. It was fun for the first year but it doesn't hold my interest anymore.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 29, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Facebook itself is irrelevant. This is going to have long term ill effects on the tech industry and Silicon Valley.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 29, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Funny, most of the people into this idiotic financial play though they were going to rip off everyone else and get fabulously wealthy, like the Dot.Com boom. It didn't work out that way and now they want to cry about it. Facebook is so overly simplistic - do nothing - useless - data collecting website why anyone would pay a penny for the stock is beyond me.
Not to mention the rip off of the whole patent system protection of the most stupid obvious ideas - like the trash can, or the little boxes that pop up over stuff when you most over them. There are things that anyone would think of and need to have the freedom of doing. All of this is just a setup for everything continually being owned and controlled by the same people with the same bad intentions.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 29, 2012 at 10:40 pm
FB's disappointing IPO is a wake up call for overly-hyped start up companies. Be realistic.....
a resident of Barron Park
on May 30, 2012 at 8:38 am
These class action lawsuits are waiting no matter how the stock goes. These firms are just market parasites.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I'm concerned about my privacy and copyright rights so I am not on Facebook. Oh, the horror! Not a hipster!
Well, maybe this is another Pets.com and who knows where all your personal contact will end up. I wonder about firms with young people who are quick to install luxury offices with slides and all that. Facebook "must" do more -- all I can see is invasions of privacy, "slip-ups" (oops!), very targeted advertising, and who knows what else.
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on May 30, 2012 at 11:20 pm
This will be a real downer for Palo Alto.
That real estate price POP will turn instead to a bubble POP instead. The recent over bidders will get cautious again - and just when things were picking up again for the first time in years!
And its a real downer for all the social start-ups wanting to IPO or be bought up.
Its a disaster.
They were just way to greedy. If they IPO at 20 billion not a 100 billion they would be soaring by now!
This company is all about reputation. It has to be hip or people wont use it. And now they blew it. No reputation, no company.
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Pitchers get their fielding practice in
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com
CINCINNATI -- Before batting practice on Tuesday afternoon, all Reds pitchers were out for pitchers' fielding practice, or PFP's. It's something the club will generally perform about once a month during the regular season.
The staff went through the routine of drills and covering first base normally seen in Goodyear, Ariz., during Spring Training.
"We do it all the time," Reds manager Dusty Baker said. "We work on all these things in Spring Training, and then when the season starts, you're more worried about everybody's energy level from extra work. It's about continuing to work but not leaving your energy in practice."
Hannahan gets start at third in place of Frazier
CINCINNATI -- For only the fourth time this season, Jack Hannahan was in the starting lineup at third base for the Reds vs. the Braves on Tuesday while Todd Frazier got a break.
Frazier was batting .189 (7-for-37) over his previous 11 games and entered Tuesday hitting .239 overall.
"Not really a day [off for Frazier] as much as I'm giving Hannahan a chance to play," Reds manager Dusty Baker said.
Hannahan previously started games on April 12, April 21 and April 27 and came in batting .308 (8-for-26) in 20 games overall.
"We've been playing some good baseball and winning. I think any big league player wants to play more, but that's not always the outcome," Hannahan said. "I don't make the lineup card out. I focus on the things I can control, and that's preparing to play every day or preparing to come off the bench for a big pinch-hit or to go play defense. Some things in baseball you can't control."
Hannahan, who was signed to a two-year, $4 million contract as a free agent in December, has leaned on coach Miguel Cairo for advice on handling being a role player and pinch-hitter.
"It's been a big help having Miguel here and Cesar [Izturis], too, as far as getting into a routine," Hannahan said. "It depends on pitch count, but usually in the fifth, I'll come back in and get on the bike, get loose, go in the weight room and run around a little bit. I take some swings in the cage. Then I kind of wait and let the scoreboard dictate what's going to happen. You sit and wait and hope your number is called."
Simon's dominating outing features six straight K's
CINCINNATI -- Facing the National League leaders in team strikeouts during Monday's 7-4 Reds loss to the Braves, Alfredo Simon mowed them down. Simon faced six hitters in the sixth and seventh innings and struck out all six.
"It was awesome," Reds manager Dusty Baker said. "If you want to strike out somebody, this is the club to do it. He's getting better. He's learning to control his sinker. He's gotten better since we had him. We got him last year off of the scrap heap."
The Reds claimed Simon off of the waiver wire on the eve of Opening Day 2012, and he has become a solid long/middle reliever for the club.
According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Simon's six consecutive strikeouts are the most by a Reds pitcher since Aaron Harang struck out seven straight during a May 25, 2008, relief appearance at San Diego.
"I felt like every pitch was working last night," Simon said. "My two-seamer and my slider and my breaking ball were really good. I tried to attack the hitter, and when they got a strike, I just tried to strike them out."
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Martin's homer lifts Pirates over Cardinals
ST. LOUIS (AP) Russell Martin wanted a better fate for his starting pitcher and helped deliver a happier ending.
The Pittsburgh Pirates catcher hit a two-run home run to highlight a four-run seventh inning and the Pirates rallied to beat the St. Louis Cardinals 5-3 on Saturday. The comeback gave A.J. Burnett (2-2) his second victory over St. Louis in 10 days.
"It was great, man. I was really happy about that," said Martin, who went 2-for-4 with a double. "A.J.'s been pitching his butt off all year and he hasn't had too many wins under his belt and he should. It seemed like it was going to go like kind of how it's been but we were able to muster up some wins and find a way to do it for him.
"It's definitely gratifying. It feels great."
Burnett gave up two runs and five hits in six innings. His six strikeouts expanded his team record for the month of April to a league-leading 48. Burnett threw seven shutout innings in a 5-0 win over St. Louis on April 17.
He hasn't allowed more than three earned runs in his six starts this season, giving up three just twice. The Pirates haven't backed him at the plate, however, providing him an average of 2.33 runs.
Burnett used 111 pitches earning an exit earlier than he wanted but he was pleased with his results and the victory.
"It feels good just because the fact that these guys keep going," he said. "Russ started us off with the homer. We're never out of it. We're never down. There's no negative thoughts.
"As a starter, I'm going to try to keep doing that until (manager) Clint (Hurdle) takes me out."
St. Louis starter Jake Westbrook left after six innings with a 2-0 lead in search of his 100th career victory. He struck out a season-high six and scattered six hits to lower his ERA to 0.98 in five starts.
The Pirates had three consecutive hits against reliever Joe Kelly (0-1) to lead off the seventh and were aided by a hit by pitch and a walk to score four runs. Martin's fifth homer of the season drove in Pedro Alvarez to tie the score at 2, Andrew McCutchen walked with the bases loaded and Garrett Jones grounded in Starling Marte.
"They just couldn't get it done today," Cardinals manager Mike Matheny said of his bullpen. "Any time you lose a game in the last third, it can be extremely frustrating. When the starter gives you a great chance like that, you hate to see it slip away."
The Pirates added their fifth run on a double by Martin and a sacrifice fly from Gaby Sanchez. Martin has a hit in 10 of his past 11 games.
Pittsburgh had scored just one run in the first 15 innings of the series before their four-run outburst. The beleaguered St. Louis Cardinals bullpen had its ERA balloon to 5.62. The Cardinals have given up 39 runs after the sixth inning this season.
"Honestly, I didn't know they were struggling like that," Martin said. "All of those guys have tremendous arms and they've got good stuff. It's going to even out for them, I'm sure.
"The difference is, when they're struggling, it's just their minds that are struggling. Maybe their focus is just a bit off. When you get a guy whose focus is off he tends to make more mistakes and that's when you have to capitalize."
Jason Grilli surrendered his first run of the season on an RBI double from Carlos Beltran in the ninth but earned his 10th save in 10 tries.
St. Louis jumped to a 2-0 lead with single runs in the first and sixth. Pete Kozma's two-out single up the middle scored Jon Jay. Matt Carpenter and Beltran singled to start the first. Carpenter scored on Matt Holliday's groundout.
Westbrook's performance also lowered the Cardinals starters ERA to a league-best 2.08.
He allowed a runner to reach second base once, though the Pirates went in order just one time.
Westbrook has struggled throughout his career against the Pirates, entering with a 1-7 record and a 5.28 ERA. It could have been worse. He gave up four runs and six hits in two innings April 16 before rained forced the game's postponement.
"I felt like I was throwing the ball pretty well, had a good sinker. I was able to get some early outs and stayed out of trouble for the most part."
Notes: Pittsburgh OF Travis Snider was scratched from the starting lineup with discomfort on his left side. He's listed as day to day. … Pittsburgh INF Neil Walker took six stitches on his right index finger after Cardinals SS Pete Kozma stepped on him while turning a double play Friday. He's listed day-to-day but is likely out for at least a week. … With a single in the third, Pittsburgh OF Jose Tabata has now hit safely in 20 of his 22 career games at Busch Stadium. … Jay stole his first base of the year in the fourth. He led the team with 19 in 2012. … Westbrook entered the game with eight strikeouts. … Cardinals starters have all 14 of the team's victories. … Cardinals INF Daniel Descalso went 0-2 with two walks and is hitless in his last 15 at-bats. … Cardinals INF Jermaine Curtis made his Major League debut and struck out in the ninth as a pinch hitter for Matt Carpenter who was pulled with a mild oblique strain on his left side.


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Some women won't leave the house without putting on some lipstick, but should they be double-checking what's inside those pretty pink and
red colors?
Ruth to the Rescue found many woman enjoy the benefits of lipstick.
"There's something old Hollywood, there's something glamorous, there's
just some, um, there's just something about wearing lipstick," said Melanie Martin, of Rochester Hills.
"I wear lipstick a lot because it makes me feel good," said Jeanne Herrmann, of Royal Oak.
While Pam Timreck of Bloomfield Hills added, "I think just for a splash of color I'm used to putting it on. It's my number one go to makeup."
New research leads to new questions on
Now, A new study from the University of California Berkeley's School of Public Health analyzed 32 commonly found lipsticks and lip
It found they contain lead cadmium, chromium, aluminum, and five other metals: some at potentially toxic levels. Prior research found lead in lipstick back in 2011, but the Food and Drug Administration said it found levels that pose no safety concerns. The UC study looked at more metals and estimated health risks based on their concentrations and typical use.
One author of the study said this study is telling the Food and Drug Administration to wakeup and pay attention to what's inside makeup like lipstick. The study found that some of the lipsticks could result in excessive exposure to chromium, a carcinogen linked to stomach tumors.
Would that potential risk change the habits of the lipstick lovers that spoke with Ruth to the Rescue?
"I just, I know probably there are some chemicals in it, but just doesn't disturb me enough, that I wouldn't wear it," said Herrmann.
Others says they might be a little more cautious.
"When I purchase a tube of lipstick, which isn't really very often, that I would look for that," said Martin.
Industry reacts with statement on research claims
The Personal Care Products Council put a statement online that said the discovery of trace levels of metals in lip products is not unexpected
given their natural presence in air, soil and water. Very low levels are also found in drinking water and food.
Further it said quote, "Trace amounts of metals in lip products need to be put into context. Food is a primary source for many of these naturally present metals, and exposure from lip products is minimal in comparison." You can see the Council's entire statement here.
Some critics still feel the United States should do more, as there are no set standards for metal in cosmetics. USA Today reports the European Union says cadmium, chromium, and lead are unacceptable ingredients at any level in cosmetic products.
Follow this link to the Food and Drug Administration information about previous lead research.
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Verlander marks 31st birthday with rehab milestone
By Jason Beck / MLB.com
LAKELAND, Fla. -- Thursday marked Justin Verlander's 31st birthday, which he celebrated by taking in a serenade from fans. More pertinent to Spring Training, it marked six weeks since his core muscle surgery, which technically ends his rehab process.
He's still not on the same timetable as the other Tigers starters, and he probably won't be until a rotation turn or two into the Spring Training schedule. But he's at the point where even manager Brad Ausmus hesitates to say he's dealing with an injury anymore.
That said, the Tigers are going to have backup options ready if Verlander suffers a setback, with multiple pitchers stretching out as starters in the early weeks of Grapefruit League play. That includes Jose Alvarez, who will start next Friday's split-squad game against the Phillies while Max Scherzer faces the Yankees.
"We have a couple guys," Ausmus said. "Alvarez is one of those guys. [Luke] Putkonen is a guy we've talked about. [Kyle] Lobstein is a guy we've talked about."
Lombardozzi practicing for role as backup shortstop
LAKELAND, Fla. -- Steve Lombardozzi has already played quite a few positions in his brief Major League career. Shortstop is the least familiar of them.
He's about to get a crash course. The way the Tigers' bench projects to line up, there's a good chance Lombardozzi will be the primary backup to Jose Iglesias on the Opening Day roster. New manager Brad Ausmus' goal with him this spring is to prepare him for that likelihood.
"I told him the first day [of full-squad workouts], 'We want you working at short and third,'" Ausmus said Thursday morning. "That doesn't mean he's not going to get his looks at second or maybe in left field, though we think left field is farther down the pecking order for him. But if Iglesias needs a couple days, we need a guy to play short."
It's a different spot for the Tigers, who had a natural shortstop on their bench for years. While the starting job has been a carousel ever since Carlos Guillen was moved out of that spot in 2008, Ramon Santiago was a constant. Detroit did not re-sign him as a free agent, and he ended up agreeing to a Minor League contract with the Reds just before Spring Training.
Instead of a true utility infielder, the Tigers are expected to go with two super-utility players in the switch-hitting Lombardozzi and veteran left-handed hitter Don Kelly. Ironically, Kelly came up through the Tigers' farm system as a shortstop, but isn't considered much more than an emergency option there at this point in his career, having turned 34 last weekend.
The 25-year-old Lombardozzi has very little experience at short at any level -- 20 games in the Minor Leagues, and one start there in 2011 and 2012. He's a natural second baseman who added playing time at third base and left field once he made it to the big leagues in Washington.
"He has played short. He hasn't played a ton of short," Ausmus said. "So we want to see him play short. We want him to be comfortable there. We want him to be comfortable at third, although we also have Don Kelly."
Iglesias, as long as he's healthy, isn't likely to need many days off at age 24. If he gets injured, the Tigers will have options down the road at Triple-A Toledo, including middle infield prospect Hernan Perez and utility infielder Danny Worth. Lombardozzi doesn't have to be able to cover shortstop for a stretch, but a day or two at a time would be enough.
Catchers practice as usual, awaiting rule changes
LAKELAND, Fla. -- Like many teams, the Tigers are awaiting word from Major League Baseball on any rule changes regarding home-plate collisions. At the same time, they have a Spring Training camp to conduct, including catcher drills on throws home and run-downs.
That puts new manager Brad Ausmus and instructors in a bit of a bind.
"Right now, it's business as usual until we get something different from Major League Baseball," Ausmus said Thursday. "There's no guarantee that there's going to be an actual rule change at this point.
"We've already gone over it once as far as practicing plays at the plate. You just have to treat it like it has been for decades."
Ausmus isn't suggesting that no rules change will come down. The longer it takes, though, the less time there is for teams and their catchers to change their practice before the season starts.
"On March 29, you can't say, 'All right, there's no contact at the plate, and the catcher has to be in fair territory when he receives the ball,'" Ausmus said. "There has to be a tipping point where Major League Baseball just says, 'We have to wait another year for this.'"
Reports have suggested a decision could be imminent, but those reports have lingered.
Ausmus has his opinions on it. He supports the push for catcher safety, but worries about limiting contact altogether.
"I like the intent, I do," he said, "but I hope they don't turn home plate into just another base. … I don't know what's going to happen, but if they do eliminate contact at home plate, what happens to the takeout slide at second base? You would have to, I think, eliminate contact at every base."
Spring Training means tryouts for players' gloves
LAKELAND, Fla. -- The parade of glove manufacturers began to roll through Tigertown on Thursday, providing an annual reminder that it's not just Spring Training for players. It's training time for their gloves.
Spring Training is often the time when players start to break in new gloves, whether they plan on using them in the coming season or not. For some, it's an insurance policy for when -- or if -- their current glove finally breaks down. For others, it's more urgent.
"I got this one in Spring Training in 2012," utility man Don Kelly said, pulling a somewhat-worn infielder's glove out of his locker. "And I still haven't used it in a game yet."
Kelly has two six-year-old gloves that haven't worn down yet, though both are starting to tear despite his best efforts to preserve them. Every year, he looks at gloves in hopes of finding one with the same fit as those he currently uses. The same model glove, the same size, often feels completely different. In an emergency, he said, he can get a glove ready in two weeks.
It's a little less complicated for some younger players, especially outfielders.
"I'll play catch with it for about a week," Austin Jackson said.
But he tries to stick with the same model each time.
"If you try to change, it can mess with you," Jackson said. "It's all about feel."
Kelly's switch-hitting super-utility counterpart, Steve Lombardozzi, tries to keep things simple. He keeps two game gloves -- one for the infield, the other for outfield-- and two backup gloves.
"I've been fortunate," he said. "I've used the same model since I was in junior college."
Quick hits
• Somebody was going to make the miscue of calling Ausmus "sir," and not necessarily a prospect. Joba Chamberlain became the latest to do so Thursday, answering an instruction in the clubhouse with a "Yes, sir."
The 44-year-old Ausmus, who would rather be called anything but that, took it in stride.
"Don't call me sir," he replied kindly.
• The Tigers held popup drills Thursday, and the weather cooperated with sunny skies and a good breeze to make things interesting.
"It doesn't hurt," Ausmus said, "but I'll tell ya, it's different in a game regardless."
Jason Beck is a reporter for MLB.com. Read Beck's Blog and follow him on Twitter @beckjason. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?)
he Sanus mount was very sturdy (a bit heavy so you will need two people to install) for my 65' Plasma TV. It has a very simple and straightforward design and plenty of mounting holes. With the optional adapter extension bracket I was able to secure it to three studs. I needed the adapter as I have an 2012 Panasonic Plasma with non standard mounting holes. The adapter gave me greater flexibility in locating my mount on the wall ad ensuring a sturdy fit. The tilt function provides ample access to cables and connections behind the TV as well as a great viewing angle which allowed me to mount the TV sightly higher than I normally would. Very pleased with the quality of the design, manufacture and function.
Pros: Very sturdy, worked as designed for the Sanus mount, easy to install.
Cons: Heavy, cost - a bit expensive relative to the cost of the mount.


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It seems the Timberwolves' coaching search has been expanded. Which makes sense since Rick Adelman is apparently putting on his "don't touch me" face. The latest entry into the sweepstakes is none other than KG's mentor, scorer of the first points in Wolves history, former NBA Coach of the Year and total righteous dude Sam Mitchell himself.
Mitchell is, in many ways, the people's choice for the job but he's yet another candidate who lacks that lusted-after pedigree for up-tempo basketball. Is that even a thing we're doing anymore?
Incidentally, when you search "Sam Mitchell Timberwolves" on youtube, the only really relevant thing is this little clip of Sammy getting crushed by Penny Hardaway. Such is the sad fate of the NBA yeoman.


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HUNTINGTON BEACH – A man was airlifted from the playground of Sun View Elementary school on Saturday after receiving life-threatening injures in a car accident.
Huntington Beach firefighters were called at 3:57 p.m. Saturday to the scene of a rollover car accident involving a pickup truck and another car near the intersection of Heil Avenue and Gothard Street, authorities said.
The driver of the truck ran a red light while eastbound on Heil Avenue, according to a preliminary investigation by Huntington Beach Police. The driver, a man in his 30s, lost control of his vehicle which ended upside down against a tree, said Jeff Lopez, a battalion chief for the Huntington Beach Fire Department.
There was little damage to the other car, and the passengers weren't injured, police said.
Firefighters found the truck was leaking fuel and sprayed foam over it to prevent it from igniting, Lopez said.
Paramedics reported that the driver had major injuries and requested an air ambulance because it took awhile to pull him from the car. Emergency responders spent about 35 minutes cutting the man out of his truck. Lopez said that a helicopter took the injured man to UCI Medical Center.
Huntington Fire's Hazardous Material Unit and city's Public Works Department were called in to capture the fuel from a storm drain to prevent it from running into the ocean.
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if sasuke needs orochimaru to perform edo tensei to revive who ever he needs to speak with. will jugo and suigetsu be those sacrifices for edo tensei
will they capture people for edo tensei
or could they possibly be ready for summoning. Orochimaru's trump cards. maybe during his attack on the hidden leaf, these bodies were still being modified like how Madara was
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Puerto Rico piles on in exhibition win vs. Twins
Figueroa provides key RBI single off Minnesota reliever Burnett in eighth inning
By Rhett Bollinger / MLB.com
FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Luis Figueroa laced a go-ahead RBI single in the eighth inning to help lead Team Puerto Rico to an 8-7 win over the Twins on Wednesday in an exhibition game at Hammond Stadium.
Figueroa's one-out single off reliever Anthony Slama scored Jesus Feliciano, who walked earlier in the inning against reliever Alex Burnett.
Puerto Rico got on the board against right-hander Vance Worley with a sacrifice fly from Alex Rios in the first inning after a double from Angel Pagan and a single from Irving Falu.
Worley, though, settled down after that opening frame. He allowed two runs (three earned) on six hits over 3 1/3 innings in his third start of the spring.
"I started throwing harder, because I was tired of giving up little bleeders and broken-bat hits," Worley said. "I thought the only way I could beat it was to throw harder and try to beat their swing."
Center fielder Aaron Hicks, one of only a handful of regulars to play for the Twins, went 2-for-2 with a walk and a solo homer in the first off Puerto Rico starter Giancarlo Alvarez.
The Twins scored four times in the second inning, with Eduardo Escobar bringing home a couple of runs with a two-run single before Jeff Clement and Brandon Boggs walked with the bases loaded.
But Puerto Rico came back with a run in the fourth, scored twice in the sixth and twice in the seventh. Pedro Valdes hit a two-run homer in the sixth off Jared Burton and went 3-for-4 with three RBIs.
Twins prospects Jose Berrios and Eddie Rosario both saw action for Team Puerto Rico, as Berrios tossed a scoreless inning in relief and Rosario went 1-for-3 with a single.
Wilkin Ramirez hit his first homer of the spring, taking Puerto Rico pitcher Randy Fontanez deep in the seventh inning.
Rhett Bollinger is a reporter for MLB.com. Read his blog, Bollinger Beat, and follow him on Twitter @RhettBollinger. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Lil B can you answer this one time? Go ahead
[Lil B]
[Verse 1 : Lil B]
Young BasedGod got them hoes like 40
I keep on talking, I think that I'm Maury
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Lil B do you have three bitches? Lil B I heard you have 5 bitches.. Lil B ask me about bitches and I'll tell you If you got em because we got all the bitches. Lil B I want bitches like you! (Alright man) is there something wrong?
[Verse 2 : Lil B]
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Ain't no budget, price don't matter
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Lil B so.. the conclusion of this interview you have 5 bitches and that's way more than me. Great job Lil B and congratulations. Have a great day!
LOVE YOU!! DONT TAKE MY LOVE FOR GRANTED! – Lil B
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Arenado working on maintaining energy level
WASHINGTON -- Rockies rookie third baseman Nolan Arenado has brought limitless energy since joining the club on April 28.
Arenado, 22, has appeared in every game and started all but two games since joining the club.Full Game Coverage
WASHINGTON -- Rockies rookie third baseman Nolan Arenado has brought limitless energy since joining the club on April 28.
Arenado, 22, has appeared in every game and started all but two games since joining the club.Full Game Coverage
"I like playing every day," Arenado said. "It's what I want. It's the only way you're going to feel comfortable at the plate and in the infield. It's going to help me to see a lot of pitches. I love playing every day. It's what I enjoy."
There have been successes. Arenado has made enough highlight-level plays to be considered a serious candidate for a Rawlings Gold Glove Award. If it happens, he would be the first rookie third baseman to do so.
Offensive consistency has been a challenge. Arenado entered Sunday hitting .252 with six home runs and 21 RBIs. His homer Saturday off the Nationals' Ross Ohlendorf in the eighth inning of a 7-1 victory was his first since June 7.
His strategy for keeping up his defense and improving his offense does not involve sitting and observing.
"Nolan doesn't like days off," Rockies manager Walt Weiss said. "I try to give him one here and there, but it's been a while. He's wound too tight. He doesn't like to sit over here for nine innings. He's a guy I've got to pick my spots with so he doesn't play himself into the ground, but he likes to play every day.
"There's a lot of youthful energy. He loves to play the game. Even when he's struggling, he wants to grind his way through it. He's not that guy that wants to sit on the side and figure things out. The way he plays third base, it's tough to take him out of there."
To maintain his energy, Arenado said he has improved his eating -- something brought to his attention by Rockies strength and conditioning coach Brian Jordan.
"I feel good with my body, and lately I've been trying to keep up with the right foods and get as much sleep as I can, but it's tough," Arenado said. "I rest as much as I can, ice bath as much as I can, and get ready.
"I'm eating a lot of egg whites, proteins and vegetables. Earlier, I was eating a lot of junk food. But I'm making sure I feel good. Me and B.J. were talking about my energy level. It's good because I want to play every day."
Thomas Harding is a reporter for MLB.com. Read his blog, Hardball in the Rockies, and follow him on Twitter @harding_at_mlb.


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Archer named Sun City Hilton Head assistant executive director
Shannon Archer has been named Sun City Hilton Head's Assistant Executive Director. He was previously the community's Director of Golf Business Operations since January 2012.
Archer has a long and renowned track record in golf business development, where he has earned many awards and recognitions, and a background in accounting. He has spent 15 years as a director, general manager or golf professional at private, semi-private daily fee golf clubs, and six years in the accounting and banking fields. He holds a bachelor's degree in Business Management and Accounting from Emory & Henry College in Emory, Va.
As Assistant Executive Director, Archer will continue to oversee golf operations as well as other departments, and will work closely with accounting staff.
"Shannon's financial background and experience in club management made him the ideal candidate for this position," said Damon Williams, Executive Director of Sun City Hilton Head. "He will be heavily involved as we continue to enhance the lifestyle at Sun City Hilton Head and streamline inter-department accounting functions. He has certainly helped dramatically improve the golf program in Sun City and we are excited to have him in this position."
The Assistant Executive Director position at Sun City has been vacant since Williams was promoted to Executive Director in July.
Controller Kim Burgess will lead Sun City's Accounting Department functions. She has been a part of Sun City's team for 12 years and is a Certified Public Accountant (CPA), Certified Manager of Community Associations (CMCA) and Association Management Specialist (AMS).
"Kim is a hardworking and dedicated associate, and I have witnessed the wonderful relationship she has with Sun City's Finance Committee," said Todd Doupona, Sun City's Treasurer on the Board of Directors and liaison to the all-volunteer Finance Committee. "We are all looking forward to continue working with Kim as she leads Sun City's Accounting Department."


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Be sex-geektastic with these nifty iPhone camera apps
Freshly back from CatalystCon, quite a few folks had asked for information on the camera apps I was using at the conference to keep the social media stream fun and lively. This post is for the social media geeks and geek wannabes. 🙂 Most of these apps are free or $.99, so, assuming you have the iPhone already, they're pretty low-budget-friendly.
Of course, if you are at an event, always be sure to ask for permission before taking someone's photo and before posting publicly to a social media site. Many of our favorite activists and educators can't be photographed publicly in a sex-positive environment for fear of losing their jobs, so always check first!
Five iPhone camera apps for the con
Incredibooth from Synthetic, LLC. Remember those photo booths that populated boardwalks and pizza restaurants of our childhoods? You'd squeeze in one with your best friend, press your heads together and take four wacky photos in quick succession. Why? Because back then, cameras were bulky and required skill to use, and we didn't all carry them around with us all the time. Incredibooth is a fun iPhone camera app that lets you relive that childhood fun, minus the cramped, smelly booth. The red curtain swings back, the red light blinks, and you and your buddy take four shots in 20 seconds, all captured in good, old-fashioned black-and-white glory. Get your photos, grab some popcorn and cotton candy and then hit the Ferris wheel! (Thanks to SexNerdSandra for trying it out with me!)
Ptch is the free app that I used to instantly create this one-minute CatalystCon video with music bed sharing my CatalystCon experience. It allows the user to mix photos from your photo album immediately with music and styles into a fun short video. Creating a Ptch is pretty easy: drag your favorite photos or video clips, add captions if desired and select a style such as "matte," "epic" or "vivid" to personalize the video. Then choose a song from the app's music list. Ptches can be shared by email or posted publicly to social media sites Twitter and Facebook (no Pinterest yet, sadly). Making a video in five minutes flat? Pretty amazing!
Autograph This Wanna be a star or just feel like one? Don't laugh; someone at a recent event actually asked for an autographed picture, and my first reaction was, "I bet there is an app for that!" And indeed there is, for .99 from Vamp Apps. Autograph This allows the user to either use an existing Photo Album photo or take a new one and then sign it with a finger using light or dark "ink," whichever has the best contrast to the photo's background. The photo can then be posted to social networks or sent via private message. Run into someone famous? Snap a pic and ask him/her to sign with a finger. Someone thinks you're famous? No more carrying those pesky 8×10 glossies around; just use your finger! (Thanks to Megan Andelloux for the demo autograph!)
FrameLens is a nifty $.99 app that creates an instant collage as you snap photos. It's a great alternative to the "here are four people at a lunch table" shot. Choose a frame of three, four or more and tap each frame to instantly snap a photo! I found this app very helpful for shooting panels: use the bigger shot to show the whole panel and the smaller frames for close-ups of each speaker. You can also pull photos off an album and even add captions and change the color or frame. Try it at your next lunch, dinner or conference for a more active and vibrant way to capture the spirit of the event.
PowerCam is a free iPhone camera app that enables the user to apply instant, live filters and effects to images and video BEFORE and WHILE shooting them. What you see on the screen before you snap the shot is what you get. What I love about this app is the ability to apply over 50 live filters (such as neon outline, sepia, watercolor sketch) to live photos and videos before you take them. It's like having Photoshop on your phone for every picture and video. Also, the app allows for easy sharing to social networks such as Facebook and Twitter, and you can save the photos to your iPhone native photo gallery.


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Women's Volleyball Helps Living Beyond Breast Cancer Foundation
Lenn Margolies
November 21, 2012
During the month of October, the Cheyney University Women's Volleyball Team elected to raise awareness of Breast Cancer. They also worked to raise funds for the organization Living Beyond Breast Cancer. Living Beyond Breast Cancer offers programs and services to women affected by breast cancer, caregivers and healthcare providers.
The volleyball team dressed in pink during warm-ups on match days, baked cupcakes for sale, and hosted serving tournaments for prizes during two matches.
Through their efforts and with the help of some matching donors, the volleyball team was able to raise $508 to donate to Living Beyond Breast Cancer.


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Hey you! Reader! Want to be a part of the GREATEST COMIC BOOK AND GEEK COMMUNITY on the web?! Well, they're not accepting new members, but we'll take anyone here, so why not sign up for a free acount? It's fast and it's easy, like your mom! Sign up today! Membership spots are limited!*
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Hey you! Reader! Want to be a part of the GREATEST COMIC BOOK AND GEEK COMMUNITY on the web?! Well, they're not accepting new members, but we'll take anyone here, so why not sign up for a free acount? It's fast and it's easy, like your mom! Sign up today! Membership spots are limited!*
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by Doc Jon » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:25 am
Dude, that is some crazy fucking voodoo magic shit right there.
Look up the video where they make a wrench and then use it!
by HNutz » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:48 am
I kinda agree with this. If he just wanted to show off his work, that's fine. No problem there. Wants us to check out his webcomic? Okay. Buy his independent book? Starting to push it, but if I like what I see and the money's reasonable, maybe. If he wants to sell us something that's directly owned by someone else, that's not so cool.
Slott's a member of the board. But he doesn't come in, peddle his wares and leave. He actually takes part in a conversation. (Maybe just 1 conversation, but my point stands)
Creators (both high profile and just getting established) come in, but there's usually an interview, discussion, SOMETHING besides simply being a commercial for their product. They should bring something to the board, whether it's participation in discussions, criticisms or praise, acting as part of the community, etc. instead of trying to make money off of us buying their legal product.
I understand that the site has to make money... so, if some people simply want to advertise here without being a part of the community, perhaps they should be paying for it, like the rest of the banners on the right?
Just my 2 cents.
(BTW, I hate when folks do this on Facebook, too. Join my high school alumni page, because they ARE an alumni, and then post on the high school group page to sell insurance or something. )
by Doc Jon » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:52 am
Good for Slott.
There are creators with a presence on multiple boards. There are some boards where I simply post my art in a thread and then leave, or I'm just in the artist thread and nowhere else on the site.
You can't expect everyone to be fully invested in the community and not right off the bat.
The artist community at this site is weak, at best. And I can see why.
by S.F. Jude Terror » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:54 amIf we were nicer to new posters and engaged them, they might be inclined to post more. IMO.
by dairydead » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:00 pmI just can't imagine spending 200 dollars on something that is not even physical that i couldnt even use to benefit myself. At the very best, he could make some fan art, posing the figure, but its not like he even made that. I guess i just don't get the appeal of spending that much on something that you don't even physically own, that someone else made, that literally exists only for you to look at it.
by HNutz » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:07 pm
How does encouraging a new poster to only post a link to his $299 3D model (which I still don't see how he can sell, as Marvel owns the Iron Man likeness) improve the artist community?
Like I said earlier, if he just showed his model... I'd be fine with it. If he wanted comments or constructive criticism, cool. If he (I keep assuming it's a "he") wants to be an active part of the community, that's awesome. If all he wants is to show off his work and leave, okay, even though I'd prefer that he hang around.
Do I think we should bend over backwards to help this new poster sell the $299 models? Not so much. If "Judes#1fan" posted a video to YouTube and wanted us to watch it, sure, why not? If "BestBuy007" wanted to post a link to the new movie they made and wanted us to pay to download it, that'd be weird.
For me, when people start asking for money, I begin to question their motives.
by Doc Jon » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:15 pm
One of our main pitches to get artists to this site is: YOU CAN PROMOTE YOUR STUFF HERE.
I can understand you not liking it. There's a simple solution: ignore it.
Would I like this guy to show more of his artwork and become a member of the community? Yes. If all he's going to do is try to sell an IM render, then he won't post here for long anyway.
But the way that creators are treated around here is pretty crappy, and it's mirrored in the fact that we have a weak creator community.
by eltopo » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:20 pm
love dolls
by HNutz » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:38 pm
After making the prerequisite number of comments (mostly short, two word responses), the OP was the seller's last post for over a month, in which he got one reply, mostly in regards to the cost. Once the thread got bumped, the majority of the posts were about the price and the typo in the bumping post, followed questions/praise for his work and concerns about advertising on the board.
Don't have anything against him promoting and showing off his art. Just the opposite. I welcome it. I'm thinking that, if money was never mentioned (or if someone else had asked about the price/how to get that), this conversation would be a good deal more pleasant.
If we want to strengthen our creator community, I'm all for it. But, IMO, it'll take more than simply allowing them to try and sell their stuff here after minimal participation in discussions.
by The Old Doctor » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:41 pmHow about a creator community that doesn't try to sell stuff through here that they cannot legally sell or may have really just stolen the mesh from another site and now is trying to profit from it while passing it off as their own?
Sell their skill sets? Sure, but something like a property that is copyright and trademarked...
Seen this elsewhere, does not go well..
by JasonWelcome » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:33 pmHave you seen Adi Granov's Ironman 2 concept art? Crazy Awesomeness.
by The Old Doctor » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:17 pm
Yes and the Marvel Comics he worked on.
by dairydead » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:16 pmJon, would you be so accepting of someone like Rob Granito or Greg Land posting on this board? At least Land doesn't outright use other people's intellectual property for profit. This is literally the 3D equivalent of tracing.
Another thing to consider is the mentality of someone trying to hawk overpriced goods to a crowd. To an extent, the intention could be interpreted as us being easy marks and could be seen as a bit insulting.
by Doc Jon » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:39 pm
I would welcome Land or any other creator posting on this board. Even Liefeld.
And this isn't about this one poster. I don't particularly like someone coming here JUST to sell their stuff. But sometimes that's how it starts with creators. They post their projects at multiple sites trying to get some traction.
My issue is that this is how I've seen this place treat creators that come here to promote anything. When that's exactly what our sales pitch should be to get more artists and writers posting here. It should be, "come to the Outhouse because we have a built in base of comic fans that may be receptive to your projects."
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