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Toyota Camry Check Engine Light - Catalytic Converter
Hi Folks, Can anyone help me? I have a 2001 Toyota Camry LE, 4 Cyl with 125K miles and I'm going on my fifth (that's right 5) catalytic converter. I bought the car used from a dealer and a short time later the Check Engine Light came on (42K mi.). The dealer said it was the catalytic converter and replaced it under warranty. About 1 year later, same thing (different dealer)(62K mi.). About 2 years later same thing only this time not covered under warranty and many other parts including sensors were noted. I took it to my mechanic who told me 2 Oxygen Sensors and 2 Cat Converters were bad. The sensors were probably bad all along and they would make the cat converters go bad over time. I spent the $2K+ and thought it would be fine. 6 Months later, same thing. My mechanic replaced the converter under warranty. 6 Months later same thing light came on. My mechanic says it's the cat converter again. Only now he not so sure given the number of times I've been through this. Here is my question: Could this be the oil gel problem? Note: Oil is changed regularly. No blue smoke or oil consumption evidence. My mechanic ruled this out based on his knowledge of the vehicle. If not oil gel, what else could it be? (My next step is calling the Car Guys.)
See Also: Video Explains Why Catalytic Converters Fail (4 min.)
See Also: Video Explains Why Catalytic Converters Fail (4 min.)
Seems like you're burning a mixture in your cylinders that the cat converters don't like. You'd think the replacing the oxygen sensors would tell the computer to change the mixture, but perhaps either that isn't happening or some other sensor is bad.
Are you loosing coolant (like caused from a blown headgasket)? or perhaps is something off in the timing?
zoom500 Posts: 11Sorry I do not have an answer for you but I do have a question. I have a 2002 LE with 150,000 miles and the check engine light has been on for 4 or 5 months. I took it to the dealer last week and he is claiming that I need a new catalytic converter and possibly one or two sensors. Cost for the catalytic convertor installed is $850.00 and each sensor is $250.00, does this sound right?
What is the downside of doing nothing? I would like to drive this car as long as possible but spending $1350.00 when the car is running like a charm seems crazy.
Well Zoom,
Many if not most states, will not pass your vehicle for state inspection if the check engine light is on. Perhaps where you live it is different, but you should be aware of that protential exposure.
Secondly, you may have caused more damage already, due to not taking action at the first sign of a problem. For instance, you could have had one faulty sensor originally, and because you drove it for another 5 months you actually then damaged the catalytic converter beyond repair. The sensors tell the engine computer how well and complete it is burning the mixture, and it lets the computer adjust the mixture and timings correctly. If your engine is now running lean, you could end up burning the valves in the engine and then you are in for some big buxx. Running to rich, ruin the converter. Hard to know how many miles you put on in 5 months, and how much fuel was put thru the engine.
If it was me, I'd clear the error codes and then after the error code sets again take it to an autoparts chain where they will read the codes for you. I personally have a reader as they are now relatively cheap, but many of the chains (pep boys, autozone, etc) will read it for you for free. That code (search on the internet if you don't have the service manuals) will suggest the first failing component, which very well might be the first in line Oxygen sensor.
I don't know the cost of a sensor for your car, but they typically run around 50-100 bucks, plus installation which is usually pretty easy. I would not delay getting this problem identified and resolved, and you may find it doesn't need all of the parts suggested.
The prices sound about right for a dealer. From my experience go with the dealer installed opart and get the longest possible warranty. My mechanic did some research about using after market parts for the catalytic converters and they typically don't last as long. In my case, as Kiawa pointed out, the mixture seems to be "destroying" the after market cat converters.
Make sure you have a dealer you can trust and if they suggest replacing the O2 sensors then you should as they will cause the cat converters to fail if they are not fuunctioning properly. (The sensors are used by the computer to adjust the fuel mixture.) If you're not sure the dealer is being straight, take it to your local mechanic for 2nd opinion. If he is reputable he will charge you a nominal fee to diagnose, $50 or so, and it may be worth it for the piece of mind.
Best of luck.
PS - Thanks for the input Kiawa. The mechanic did check the things you suggested and was not able to find a problem. The cat converter will be replaced under warranty (again) and I will see what happens in 6 months. After that I will get the dealer replacement. Even at $2K for a fully warranteed repair it is still cheaper than buying a new car.
sunporch Posts: 1Chet,
I replaced my cat converter at 107,000 miles Oct. 2006 on my 2003 Camry. That was after a year of an off and on check engine light. It cost me right around $250.00 which was mostly labor charges at the dealership. I've since found an excellent Toyo mechanic that happens to be a Master Toyota mechanic that does all my work for a third of the cost.
sratliff Posts: 1i took my 2002 camry to the dealer for the check engine light and was told i needed a new cat converter. the price was high so i called a different place. the person told me it could be $200 or $800 depending on which one it is. is there more than one cat converter on a toyota camry or is he shooting me load of crap?
210delray Posts: 4,722There's almost certainly a difference between the 4-cylinder and the V6. There's also a possibility that cars sold under California's emission standards may have different cats.
noa123 Posts: 1Sunporch,
I have a 2001 corolla w. over 112k miles. I was just told by my dealer ( in NJ) that I need replace my cat converter for my car w. $23K after they diagnosed my check engine light. Why the cost you paid and the one I was told is 10 times different?
I went to autopartswarehouse.com searching the cat converter for my car. The highest parts price is about $400, and the lowest is around $70. I know those are after market parts, but who can tell me the difference? ( I searched the online, there is no official toyota parts price online.)
I paid 100 bucks to my dealer for my check engine light diagnosis, do I need pay another 50 bucks to another mechanic for a 2nd opinion?
On April 2007, that dealer just changed the 222204-15010 meter sub-assy, INTA for my car since the check engine' light was on. Is the present problem can be related to the previous one?
What should I do next? The light has been on since July 10, 2008, should I still drive to the place 100 miles away from my house?
reppy Posts: 3I have a 2006 Camry LE V6 with about 90k miles. It drives fine BUT for this problem. When ever I accelerate, it vibrates. The harder the acceleration, the harder you notice the vibration. If i am maintaining same speed irrespective of how fast, it rolls just fine. if i accelerate slow, you might not notice the rattle. I have had my check in engine light on for some weeks now. I have been to the dealership about this vibration and they say its the catalytic converter. I am wondering, can this really be the cause of the vibration on acceleration? I am thinking after reading posts here, that something should have made it go bad. However, these guys are not telling me anything thing like that. They just told me I need to change the front and the rear and slam me a bill of $1900 to get both cat converters replaced. I really want to be sure this is the cause of my problem. any suggestions to the cause of this vibration? Thanks folks.
chovi Posts: 1My Camry is a 2001 and has a little bit over 150,000 miles. A week ago I went to my mechanic an he told me that needed to change the 2 O2 sensors, which he did and an hour later the light went on again, the cat was changed a little over 2 years and did not a problem until last couple of months. My question is, do you think I will need to change the cat again?
Doubt if Catalytic Converter is causing the car to run bad.
The exhaust is already gone and in the converter and doesn't effect engine unless there is a back pressure issue. This could cause loss of power and backfiring and eventual shut-off.
Instead get the code for the Catalytic Conv. problem. The code can be read with a tool at Autozone. They will check it for you for free. Theres so many codes for the electronic ignition and emission system. This will narrow it down to a specific symptom.
The converter could effect the pollution if raw gas gets in it. A bad ignition coil causes raw fuel to go out the exhaust ruining it over time. This would may cause a higher reading of Nitrous gases or the Hydrocarbons it is suppose to burn in the converter.
The post before mentions poor acceleration. This could be a bad ignition part like the wire or coils if it has separate coils for each cylinder. If not it might just be a spark plug wire going bad.
I've got an 02 Camry LE 4cyl with ~ 254k miles and just had to replace the catalytic converter for the second time.
Had to replace the catalytic converter when the check engine light came on for the first time back in 11/04 when the vehicle had 139k miles. Toyota was kind enough to do a "good will" no charge warranty replacement.
Once again within the past 6 mos or so, the check engine light came back on again and catalytic converter needed replacement again. Total cost to repair at Dealer this time around was $617 which included $377 for the part, $53 for gaskets and $187 for labor.
According to my dealer, I should expect this to occur every 100k miles give or take. He further explained that today's fuel mixtures are harder on the cat converters, thus causing them to fail earlier/more frequently. Don't know if this is true or not, but this is what my dealer told me so take it FWIW.
Other then the issues with the cat converter, I can't complain much about the reliability of my Camry as I've pretty much had 254k trouble free miles and going strong.
Where do you live that you are racking up that many miles each day? That's great service from that 4 cylinder, hope I'm as lucky!
Charlotte metro area... Wife drove the Camry first couple of years and logged a ton of miles due to multi-state territory. Now, it gets driven as daily commuter car up and down I-77. At 255k miles, it shows no signs of slowing down. People that get in it can't believe the mileage it has on it given its condition. Here's wishing you as many trouble free miles with yours as we've had with ours...
ssub Posts: 2FYI: I have a 1999 4Cyl Camery LE. Check engine light came ON at 56k, took it to the dealer. They asked $110 for the diag. & end of diag. asked to replace the Cat. converter $850. I took the car to my mechanic and he suggested that it could be sensor or converter, we changed the sensor first (sensor+labor $250) and re-seted the check engine light. so far its running good 57500miles now.
I have a 2001 Toyota Camry LE w/124k miles(Original Owner) and the check engine light came on about a week ago. I took it to a auto parts store and they checked the computer with a code reader. The Code P0420 appeared and said 'Catalyst Efficiency Below Threshold, Bank 1'. Both O2 sensors have been replaced within 25k miles. In the Haynes book, it talked about A/F sensor. I would like to know if could be this sensor, the catalytic converter or the 2 other O2 sensors(Upstream sensor replaced by Dealer and downstream replaced w/aftermarket). Is it normal for a catalytic converter to go bad...I thought they last pretty long. I would like to take care of the problem myself...especially how the economy is but at the same time if I have to go to the dealer, I will go because I like my car. Which sensor should I replace or is the catalytic converter bad?
ab4d Posts: 4I am dealing with the exact same issue on my 04 Camry with 152k on the odometer. About a week ago the check engine light came on. I own a code reader which indicated that the upstream O2 sensor had failed. I went to the local autoparts store to purchase the sensor and was advised that I should replace both the upstream and downstream (below the converter) sensors at the same time.
The funny thing is the sensors were boxed as aftermarket Bosch, but actually the upstream was stamped "Toyota" and the downstream was stamped "Denso" which I believe both are OEM Toyota.
I went ahead and installed both sensors and the check engine light disappeared for about a day. The next day about halfway home from work (80 miles one way) the check engine light came on again, this time giving the code of P0420 which indicates the converter has failed.
I took the car to the dealer and asked them to check the new sensors to ensure that I had not recieved a bad sensor. The dealer did not bother to test them, and just assumed that they were good. He quoted $795.00 to replace the converter which he did not have in stock. I asked him how did he know that the converter was bad, and did he test the emissions from the tailpipe? He advised that he did not have the equipment to test the emissions and also admited that if the downstream sensor was bad it would indicate P0420.
My advice is to get the emissions from the tailpipe checked before you shell out for a converter, I know I am.
First Id like to say I have fixed a lot of the po 420 codes on california and fedaral emission camrys 4 and 6 cyl. 9 out of 10 times it is from a failing cat. I have never ever seen a rear sensor cause a po 420 code. As a sensor fails It generally gets lazy not switching fast enough. On a car with a working cat the rear 02 sensor should look lazy and have very little activity at all, unlike like the frt air fuel sensor on a calif car, or an 02 sensor on a federal. If u have not noticed way to many waste money on the sensors because they have no clue what they are looking at It is very easy to diagnose this code if u have any clue what u are doing.The frt air fuel sensor can only be tested using a lab scope. Also aftermarket cats absolutely do not work on california emissions vehicles or they work for an extremely short time .On the later model camry 4cyl around 97 to 02? They have 2 cats one in the manifold and one in the frt pipe. If u are having the 420 code u could opt to try changing the front cat ( part of the frt manifold) As it is substantially cheaper then the rear. But both are monitored by the computer. I bet these people changing cats every 6 months are putting on junk aftermarket!!!!!!! The rear factory cat is around 1100 no way u are changing that every 6 months. And if the vehicle is running correctly easy to ck by cking fuel trims should last 100k or more. Please any questions u can e mail email@example.com
I have a 2001 4cyl Camry 125kmiles and had the ck engine lt on and live in the northeast area. I went to autozone to ck the code and of course the P0420 popped up. Both sensors were replaced( 1 by the dealer at 90k miles and the 2nd by myself w/aftermarket sensor at 110k miles) I wasn't sure if it was the catalytic converter or not(maybe in denial cause it cost a lot to replace) but to make sure, I disconnected the battery overnite to reset the computer. The next morning, I connected it and the ck eng lite was gone and it hasn't come on ever since. The question is that is my catalytic converter bad or what? Did I do more damage by just resetting the computer or was it just an error? I assume if the cat was bad, the code would pop up. If I'm doing an injustice by resetting the computer tell me so, if not i guess nothing was wrong. I just hope i am not doing any damage.
Belive it or not it will be back on. If u had the code cleared it may stay out for several weeks or even a month Trust me it will be back. U will do no more damage to ur car if u clear it everytime it comes back on. But in most states it it has a code current ot in memory it will fail for an emissions sticker. I bet u have a cat that is borderline bad and under the rite circumstances ie load emgine temp fuel trims. The comp will pick up on it and trip the light again. Same thing happens when people replace an 02 sensor thinking they fix this problem and clear the code sometimes the light will stay out for a month til the computer sees the circomstances where the converter is not working the way it should it will put the light back on. Just ck back here when the light comes back on. The 420 code is an emissions code and it wont get u stuck or cause any problems but put the light on and maybe polute a bit more then it should in california standards.
Thanks for the info...i will definitly keep an i on it. Its funny u said that about the sensor. I replaced the downstream sensor9by the converter) and thought that was the problem and scared to take to the dealer cuz i no they r going to charge me an arm and a leg! lol If it goes on of course i will ck the code...if it is the converter approx how much is it from the dealer, i am in NY and dnt hav CA standards. I am a little handy...can i do it myself or is it too hard?Thanks again for the info
It is Are u stitting down. The rear converter is aprox 1200. The front is aprox 400? Both are monitored by that rear 02 sensor. sometimes changing just front will do the trick. It sucks to change either as far as the cost. The labor is quite simple to change either. Metal gasket where the manifold bolts the head and ring gaskets at either end of frt pipe/converter assembly. Sometime the studs that are in the manifold can be a problem u may or may not need a torch. I know of no other fix other then factory cats as of yet. I am looking into one other alternative but am not sure of what the outcome would be.
Thanks again 4 the info...I will definitly keep that in mind if I get the P04020 code and probably end up replacing either 1 or both cat. conv.
grizz17 Posts: 1I am having this exact same issue with my '01 camry 4cyl. Somehow I was lucky enough to purchase a "California" model in colorado...lucky me. I have just replaced the back cat 2 weeks ago, I figured it was going bad for a bit because it smelled extra rich and then the light came on. The guy I took it to replaced it for about $400. The light has been flirting on and off since then, I took it in last Friday and he tells me that this is a California model and that he had no idea and that this is the cat that is throwing the code. His quote is $600 for the cat plus labor. My question is, how the heck can you not notice that there is a cat on the exhaust manifold when you're under the car putting the rear cat on? At this point, I'm opting for a second opinion, but is it conceivable that someone could just not notice this? It sure doesn't look like a normal exhaust manifold to me.
My question is this; is this the cat that I should have worried about in the first place and the second one is just redundant since it's a California model? I live in colorado and I don't even have an emissions test to worry about, what I am concerned about is performance and possible ramifications down the road if I don't pony up to fix this in the next couple weeks? Will this cat going bad affect power because I have noticed as well these past couple of weeks that it is more sluggish tackling hills and I get a whiff of exhaust through the vents when it kicks up a gear.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I noticed one post asking how difficult this is to replace, if necessary, and I ask the same question since two sets of mechanics out here have missed the fact that this thing was even installed in the first place? Why throw good money after bad people?
thank you for your help, I greatly appreciate it after all I have been through with this car I really would like to do it the honor of driving it until it drops
First question to u would be, Did that mechanic put on a factory cat from the dealer? I think I can even answer my own question And that is gona be a big no. It is roughly 1200 dollars for that rear cat from toyota. and if u use a aftermarket cat inplace of the factory, the light will be back on very shortly. On the california emission camrys Toyotas fix is to replace both cats. Sometimes putting on one new one will get u by for a period of time if the other is borderline. But i cant stress it enough that if u use aftermarket cats u will not get rid of this code and if it does it will be for such a short period of time if u got it for a 100 it would still not be worth it. The cat should not be making is smell rich U may have other problems causing ur car to run rich or lean that would cause damage to ur converter possible melting and u would notice power loss. To ck for a restricted converter u would need to ck the backpressure through the frt air fuel ratio sensor. And to see if ur fuel mixture is correct u would need to monitor ur fuel trim data with a scan tool. My best suggestion is to take it to someone that has had experience with this code on this model car. U may even want to concider taking it to a dealer.Even in colorado I would say u have a 50 50 chance of having a vehicle that has california emissions they are very common. The mechanic should have know it has 2 cats and should of know u dont use aftermarket on these california emisson cars. .If u did not have power related problems and a smell I would say drive it because generally the 420 code will not cause problems just polute a lil more then it should but in ur case where u notice it to be low on power I would have it looked at.Any other questions post here or e mail me I will give the best advice I can
Hi Folks, Long time since I made my original post. I went through many cat converters before I got it right. Bottomline - be careful about aftermarket oxygen sensors. The dealers replaced the CATs but never even looked at the O2 sensors. When my mechanic changed it, it would not work well with the computer system in the Toyota, causing it to run rich, thus burning out 3 more CATs. (All replaced by my mechanic at no charge.) I finally took it to a dealer who knew how to fix the problem (3rd try). That was over a year ago and (knock wood) no problems since. I have had my Camry for about six years and the engine light was on for most of the first 4 years. Watch out for those O2 sensors. Good luck to all!!
bsternberg Posts: 1sunporch or anyone. Any South Chicago suburbs master toyota mechanics you can pass on?
azmustang Posts: 5I also have a 2001 camry 4 cyl with catalytic converter issues. The car has 91000
miles. The exhaust pipe in front of the catalytic converter broke off, requiring the
replacement of the rear catalytic converter. My mechanic did the replacement with
what I would think is an aftermarket replacement, since the total bill was about $600.
( I am only learning now of the the problems with non-Toyota replacement converters.)
The converter was replaced 6-8 weeks ago. A few weeks ago, the engine light came on. My mechanic said that the code came up that now the front converter needs to
be replaced. Based on what I've been reading, this may not be a final fix since the
back converter is aftermarket. I have asked the service people at my Toyota dealer
if they can determine if the replacement rear converter will work adequately if I go
ahead and replace the front converter with a Toyota converter. They told me that there really is no way to determine that. I am looking at at least $660. for the dealer
to replace the front converter. If the rear converter does not work adequately, then I am looking at an additional $1,325 to replace the rear converter with a Toyota
converter. If both air sensors are bad, there is the chance that the repair bill could
be even $400 higher. I'm trying to determine if it is time to cut my losses. The worst case scenario is that these repairs could add up to about $2,400. Potentially
another $2,400 into an 8 year old car??? The choices seem to be prepare for the
possibility of $2,400 in repairs, or take my chances and just drive it the way it is.
Any experience with how long I might be able to continue driving it if I do nothing?
Or risk the $660. to replace the front converter? Thank you for your thoughts.
Wow what a Catalytic problem.
First, air sensors should be easy to change, and about $25.00 dollars each. You're check light is coming on? I would not get to concerned about the light. It could be improper installation on the rear converter.
Not much could go wrong here though. I would get an Emissions test to check for exhaust pollution levels. I think converters reduce NOX's gases.Then go from there.This is only the exhaust and dosn't effect the engine at all only the atmosphere.
bryanbbfan Posts: 1I too have a check engine light question. I just purchased a used 1997 Toyota Camry from a private party. The condition of purchase was that the seller would get a current California smog certificate and replace the plug wires before I would buy it. So the next day, the seller had a completed smog certificate from that day and new plug wires under the hood. I completed the purchase. About six miles out the door, the check engine light comes on. I have in my hand a legitimate smog inspection report stating that the car passed date today, and there are brand new plug wires under the hood.
My question is: Is there something either the smog check or tune up technician could have done, or forgot to do, to make the check engine light come on?
Is there some sort of code that was supposed to be reset and possibly forgotten?
It is difficult to believe that there some failure so soon after a passed smog check.


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Knights of the Old Republic and Final Fantasy VII are all I need. If no other game is ever remade, those two with amazing graphics would satisfy me greatly.
lol several of my fav games of all time on that list...
link to the past
megaman legends
knights of the old republic
super mario rpg
eternal darkness
toss in...
star fox 64
castlevania sotn
river city ransom
battle toads
jet moto
chrono cross


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Three years is the new five, at least for grace periods for some coaches.
The window of opportunity for coaches to build their programs is closing. Five years used to be the standard, but that has shrunk. Without significant improvement, coaches will be lucky to stay for five seasons at many schools.
This trend makes the first signing class of a coach's tenure that much more important. The high school seniors signed Feb. 1 will be juniors three seasons from now, and ideally, part of a veteran backbones of teams across the country.
For first-year coaches, these classes were assembled in some cases under less-than-ideal circumstances due to NCAA issues (Ohio State, North Carolina), poor records (UCLA, Illinois, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, etc.) and unexpected coach departures (Pittsburgh, Rutgers).
The coaches who did the best job salvaging - and in some cases excelling - in recruiting in this first class may be the ones most likely to stick around.
Here's a breakdown of classes for first-year coaches in the six major conferences.
New coach: Urban Meyer
Hired: Nov. 28
Class rank: Fourth overall, first in the Big Ten
Buzz: In a matter of months, Meyer helped Ohio State forget about having to fire one of its most successful coaches, the 6-7 season and the looming bowl ban. Meyer's first class in Columbus also relegated Michigan's strides in recruiting, with most of its class assembled in the spring and summer, to old news. Meyer plucked players from other programs, and almost all were among the top 250 prospects in the country. Besides making national headlines, the class filled major needs. Taylor Decker, Kyle Dodson and Joey O'Connor form an impressive trio of offensive tackles while Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington give the Buckeyes two five-star defensive ends. This was an average class back in October and finished as one of the best in the country - much to the consternation of Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio, who were vocal in their displeasure with Meyer's recruiting tactics.
New coach: Jim Mora
Hired: Dec. 10
Class rank: 14th overall, third in the Pac-12
Buzz: Mora's scant NFL experience was a major question for the new Bruins' coach, especially when conference rivals brought in seasoned college veterans such as Mike Leach, Rich Rodriguez and Todd Graham this offseason. At UCLA, Mora used his staff to fill in his gaps in experience by hiring Demetrice Martin from Washington and Adrian Klemm from SMU plus Noel Mazzone and Eric Yarber from Arizona State. UCLA also was the biggest beneficiary of the implosion of Cal's recruiting class. Former Bears commits Ellis McCarthy (UCLA's only five-star signee), Jordan Payton and Kenneth Walker eventually all made their way to UCLA. The Bruins stretched its class East by landing Rivals100 athlete Devin Fuller from New Jersey days before Signing Day.
New coach: Kevin Sumlin
Hired: Dec. 10
Class rank: 15th overall, fifth in the SEC
Buzz: The Aggies had much of their class in place before Sumlin was hired, but that didn't prevent some late action in the A&M group. Wide receiver Bralon Addison switched to Oregon on Signing Day, safety Corey Thompson went to LSU and Darion Monroe went to Tulane. Still, the Aggies brought in more than they lost. Rivals250 athlete Edward Pope remained committed to TCU despite pressure from LSU and Arkansas until he ended up signing with A&M. Three-star defensive tackle Edmund Ray ended a longtime commitment to Missouri for A&M as well. Thomas Johnson, the fourth-ranked wide receiver in the country, picked the Aggies on Signing Day as well. Meanwhile, A&M kept the jewel of the class, five-star running back Trey Williams. After a coaching change and a 7-6 season, Texas A&M could have done much worse in its first signing class for the SEC.
New coach: Kyle Flood
Hired: Jan. 31
Class rank: 23rd, first Big East
Buzz: What happened in Piscataway in the final weeks before Signing Day was among the most unexpected of situations. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, rebuffed by Oregon's Chip Kelly, hired Greg Schiano on Jan. 27. Florida International coach Mario Cristobal turned down the opportunity to replace Schiano on Jan. 31, and later the same day, Rutgers promoted Flood. Somehow in that span, Rutgers' class improved. Rutgers had 17 commitments in a class ranked 32nd overall when Schiano left. The Scarlet Knights finished with 19 signees and ranked in the top 25 for the first time in school history. Landing defensive end Darius Hamilton was huge, giving Rutgers the Big East's first five-star signee since 2008. Rutgers also held onto Rivals100 offensive lineman Chris Muller.
New coach: Todd Graham
Hired: Dec. 14
Class rank: 37th overall, ninth in the Pac-12
Buzz: Graham's predecessor, Dennis Erickson, didn't shy away from signing junior college transfers. He signed six of them in three of his five classes at Arizona State. Graham topped that by adding nine JUCO prospects in this class. The highest-rated JUCO of the group, running back Marion Grice, was one of three prospects to announce for Arizona State on National Signing Day. The biggest victory came from D.J. Foster, the state of Arizona's No. 2 prospect, in the final week. He'll give the class a little bit of star power. Arizona State did a good job of holding onto four Long Beach Poly prospects - wide receivers Josiah Blandin and Richard Smith and linebackers Salamo Fiso and Matthew Rowe. However, one of their teammates, Randall Goforth, elected to sign with UCLA.
New coach: Larry Fedora
Hired: Dec. 9
Class rank: 42nd overall, sixth in the ACC.
Buzz: A new coach at North Carolina recruiting under the shadow of an NCAA investigation isn't an enviable task, but Fedora had a couple of key recruiting victories. Greensboro (N.C.) Page four-star quarterback James Summers de-committed from N.C. State to join the Tar Heels in late January. Gaffney (S.C.) wide receiver Quinshad Davis followed on Signing Day. Fedora, a high-energy coach with an offense to match, could get a further boost if Rivals250 receiver Davonte Neal signs. The next challenge is keeping the top North Carolina players in state. All of the top eight crossed state lines on Signing Day.
New coach: Hugh Freeze
Hired: Dec. 5
Class rank: 44th nationally, 13th in the SEC
Buzz: The Rebels averaged 29 signees in seven classes under Houston Nutt and Ed Orgeron. Freeze, a former Orgeron assistant, signed 17 in his first season. A top-50 class is good news, but only Kentucky was ranked lower in the conference. Such is life in the SEC. Ole Miss' greatest recruiting victory was landing defensive end Channing Ward, the state's top prospect who also considered rival Mississippi State. The Rebels landed safety Trae Elston on Signing Day, earning a victory over LSU. Still, Freeze pushed for jumbo-sized quarterback Jeremy Liggins, who hails from Oxford (Miss.) Lafayette, only to lose him to the Tigers. Ole Miss now has to gear up for a strong year in the state and in nearby Memphis for 2013.
New coach: Rich Rodriguez
Hired: Nov. 21
Class rank: 45th overall, 11th in the Pac-12
Buzz: Rodriguez was able to hang onto four-star prospects Kyle Kelley, a defensive end, and Zach Hemmila, and offensive lineman, who committed to the previous staff. This isn't a highly rated class, but Rodriguez's best teams at West Virginia weren't built on four- and five-star recruits. Quarterback Javelle Allen from Prosper (Texas) could thrive in Rodriguez's version of the spread. The Wildcats also signed former Arizona State linebacker commit C.J. Dozier to enroll early. The class will try to add one more in Rivals250 wide receiver Davonte Neal, who will visit on Feb. 10.
New coach: Paul Chryst
Hired: Jan. 6
Class rank: 46th overall, third in the Big East
Buzz: Compared to the previous signing class, which endured the coaching changes from Dave Wannstedt to Mike Haywood to Todd Graham, this class held together nicely. Part of the credit can go to Rivals100 running back Rushel Shell, Rivals250 quarterback Chad Voytik and Rivals250 offensive lineman Adam Bisnowaty, who never wavered when Chryst replaced Graham. Linebacker Dakota Conwell followed a handful of Pitt assistants to Arizona, but the Panthers ended up adding four-star linebacker Deaysean Rippy on Signing Day. It's a small class with only 16 signees. Worth noting: When these recruits become upperclassmen, they will play in the ACC. Pitt's class would have ranked seventh in the league.
New coach: Bill O'Brien
Hired: Jan. 6
Class rank: 50th overall, seventh in the Big Ten
Buzz: Following the death of Joe Paterno, the Jerry Sandusky scandal and the drawn-out search for a coach who can't give his full attention to Penn State until after the Super Bowl, the Nittany Lions signed its lowest-ranked class since 2003. Once Urban Meyer took over, Ohio State raided this class for defensive tackle Tommy Schutt, linebacker Camren Williams, offensive lineman Joey O'Connor and cornerback Armani Reeves. All four were Rivals250 prospects who were committed to the Nittany Lions in July. Other top prospects left for Wisconsin (offensive lineman J.J. Denman), Notre Dame (defensive tackle Jarron Jones) and Florida (quarterback Skyler Mornhinweg). Penn State held onto wide receiver Eugene Lewis and defensive tackle Jamil Pollard, who are now the anchors of the class. The Nittany Lions scrambled to fill the class with players who had low FBS scholarship offers, if that. Penn State will have its struggles in the post-Paterno era. This class affirmed that much.
New coach: Tim Beckman
Hired: Dec. 9
Class rank: Not ranked nationally, 10th in the Big Ten.
Buzz: Beckman scrambled to fill out his first class, adding 12 of the 19 members of the class after he took over in December. Eight of those picked Illinois after Jan. 22. He hit the Midwest hard, especially Cleveland Glenville. He didn't get every recruit he wanted there, but he landed three-star defensive back V'Angelo Bentley. Beckman focused on Ohio and Illinois, but one of the biggest gets in the class was Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) St. Thomas Aquinas running back Dami Ayoola. This class didn't make the big splash Ron Zook's early classes did, but Illinois hopes Beckman will lay a more stable foundation for the program.
New coach: Charlie Weis
Hired: Dec. 8
Class rank: Not ranked nationally, eighth in the Big 12
Buzz: Weis' biggest additions came from Division I quarterback transfers rather than this signing class. Dayne Crist arrived from Notre Dame and will be eligible in 2012. Jake Heaps arrived from BYU and will be eligible in 2013. Both were major recruits out of high school but couldn't hang onto the starting job with either of their teams. The Jayhawks aimed to boost their roster with junior college prospects with seven total transfers, including two defensive tackles.
New coach: Mike Leach
Hired: Nov. 30
Class rank: Not ranked nationally, 12th in the Pac-12
Buzz: Washington State finished last in the Pac-12, but the Cougars still have a stronger class than normal. Part of that is the arrival of Rivals100 wide receiver Gabriel Marks, who will give the Cougars a top-rated receiver for Leach's offense. He'll make a nice addition to a receiving corps that already includes Marquess Wilson. The Cougars hit Southern California hard in this class, which can't hurt.
David Fox is a national writer for Rivals.com. He can be reached at email@example.com, and you can click here to follow him on Twitter.


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Some new screens for Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory have been released, and they're definitely worth checking out if you were a fan of the last game. Basically, this game looks every bit as batsh*t insane as its predecessor.
You've got sexualized female characters, cute kid versions of said sexualized female heroines, stuffed animals, crazy eyes, and parodies. Oh, the parodies. Mario-inspired pipes and visual novel character images are just the beginning.
Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2 didn't exactly have the deepest turn-based combat system, but it was still a lot of fun to play. It was also hilarious and self-aware (and creepy at times). If Victory delivers a similar experience, we may have a worthwhile RPG on our hands.
If you dig awesome parodies and nonsensical humor, watch out for this one on the PlayStation 3 in March.
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The Tesla Model S
The new all-electric Tesla S sedan is not just the favorite of car magazines, now Consumer Reports calls it the best car they've ever driven, scoring 99 points of 100 and beating out the Lexus LS460 that held the previous record back in 2007. What does this massive battery-powered EV have that no others do?
"It handles like a sports car, it rides like a luxury car, it has the energy efficiency that is twice as good as the best hybrids and is the quietest car we've ever tested," said CR tester Gabe Shenhar. "It does so many things so right on so many levels that to us it wasn't a surprise."
Perhaps that's why Tesla Motors has sold more cars during the first quarter of 2013 than luxury German automakers, Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Audi, prompting the Palo Alto-based firm to declare its first-ever profit and raise expected sales for 2013 from 20,000 to 21,000.
Shenhar said that Tesla started from scratch. It engineered an electric vehicle around a larger battery that gives it a range of more than 200 miles (265 miles with the upgraded 85 kilowatt/hr lithium-ion battery). All other EVs -- such as the Nissan Leaf, Ford Focus, Honda Fit -- can only travel 60 to 80 miles before charging up. The closest competitor is the Toyota Rav 4 EV with a 103 mile range, according to the Department of Energy.
Tesla has also installed its own network of super-fast chargers along the East Coast corridor between Washington and Boston, as well as in California. It gives drivers in these areas the advantage of a 30 minute charge, instead of a six-hour overnight fill up at home.
Consumer Reports magazine said driving a Tesla S "is like crossing into a promising zero-emissions future. ... It's what Marty McFly might have brought back in place of his DeLorean in 'Back to the Future.'"
Publishers disclaimer: I own a Tesla Model S and some Tesla stock. I agree with the thrust of this article. Once you drive a good EV, all other cars seem somehow out of date! Photo shows me at the delivery of my Model S.
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Nikon 1 S1 review: A new product line for the Nikon Hybrid systemBy Paul Carroll - Wednesday February 20 2013 Sensor Review
Nikon 1 S1: No significant improvement over previous 10-megapixel Nikon 1 Hybrids
With an Overall DxOMark Sensor Score of 56 the Nikon 1 S1 ranks 129th for all camera sensors on the DxOMark Database and finishes 1st for Nikon 1 Series Hybrids. With the same Overall Score as the Nikon 1 J1 (56) and only 2 points better in comparison to the 54 achieved by the Nikon 1 V1 and J2 however, we measured no significant improvement in overall image quality compared with previous 10-megapixel Nikon 1 Series Hybrids.
What's more ranking just 20th overall for all Hybrids results from the smaller 1-inch CX sensor don't fare that well against its competitors. Scoring 11.1Evs for Dynamic Range the Nikon 1 S1 ranks 124th for all sensors and 18th for Hybrids. Contrast that with the 13.4Evs achieved by the top-ranking Hybrid the Sony NEX-7 that has a 2.3Evs better Dynamic Range than the S1.
21.4 bits for Color Depth places the Nikon 1 S1 in 130th Overall and in 2nd place for Nikon Hybrid cameras behind the J1 with 21.5. For Low-Light ISO the S1 score of 397 places it 158th overall and 3rd for the Nikon 1 Series, but with all of Nikon's Hybrid offerings hovering around the 400 ISO mark their performance here is also weak compared to Hybrids with larger APS-C sensors such as the Pentax K 01 with 1135 ISO or Sony NEX-C3 with 1083 ISO.
Further readings for the Nikon 1 S1 review: A new product line for the Nikon Hybrid system
To provide photographers with a broader perspective about mobiles, lenses and cameras, here are links to articles, reviews, and analyses of photographic equipment produced by DxOMark, renown websites, magazines or blogs.


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Crutchfield: Sony HX750 series TVs
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Item # 15855HX750 | MFR # 55HX750
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You can count on Sony's KDL-55HX750 to deliver a gorgeous picture in 3D or 2D. Even if you're not that interested in 3D right now, a 3D TV is still a smart choice because it will give you the best-looking 2D picture, too. And whenever you want to try out the 3D-at-home experience, just pick up a pair or two of Sony's 3D glasses. This model includes some of Sony's latest advances, which will make everything you watch look its very best, from Blu-ray movies to YouTube clips.
More and more people these days are turning to the web for day-to-day viewing, so a TV's Internet smarts are important. The KDL-55HX750 includes built-in apps for accessing the Sony Entertainment Network, home to thousands of movies, shows, games and more. You can also stream movies instantly from Netflix® or listen to Pandora® Internet radio through the TV. Built-in Wi-Fi® lets you enjoy entertainment pulled from the web or a PC on your home network without connecting an Ethernet cable. Wirelessly streamed HD video can look surprisingly good.
An ordinary edge-lit LED-LCD TV has LEDs spaced around the frame, and their light is channeled so that it illuminates the screen from behind. Sony's "Dynamic Edge" LED system essentially divides the screen into regions, each of which can be dimmed independently. This is a form of "local dimming," and it provides excellent picture contrast with black levels that get really black. As a bonus, this smart LED backlight is super energy-efficient, for minimal impact on your electric bill.
Motion processing helps LCD TVs maintain a smooth, sharp picture even when the on-screen action shifts into high gear. Sony's Motionflow XR 480 starts by analyzing the motion of specific on-screen objects as well as overall movement. Then it combines 240Hz refresh rate with a high-speed blinking backlight, achieving blur reduction that is equivalent to what you'd see with a 480Hz refresh rate. The enhanced clarity is noticeable whether you're watching video in 2D or 3D.
It's not surprising that the KDL-55HX750 has four HDMI inputs for connecting all of your high-def sources. But here's something different: In addition to standard Wi-Fi operation, Sony's Wi-Fi Direct Mode completely bypasses your wireless router. The next time your friends want to share photos or videos from their smartphones, they can wirelessly "throw" the content straight to this TV. Also, if you download the free Media Remote app you can turn your iPhone®, Android phone or Sony Tablet into a versatile remote.
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Pros: This is an all around great TV!
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Great TV with fantastic picture quality. The only reason for giving it 4 stars instead of 5 is because the sound is a bit flat. No real bass.
Pros: picture quality
Cons: sound quality
Nothing but good things to say about the HX750 except for the weak speakers/sound. I have it connected to a home theatre system, so not a big deal for me, but if you don't have one, you'll need one or you likely be disappointed. I would rate the picture, features, flexibility and 3D well above average on this one. Still happy with purchase.
Beautiful TV as usual from Sony. Great picture with nice look. Very thin. Many great options in terms if picture, sound, Internet.
Pros: Picture quality, options, sleek
Cons: Price
Sony is not up front about limitations of this TV as a Multimedia TV. After purchase I had to spend three hours finding out why they TV was not displaying video and audio files on my DLNA compliant server. The stupid online TV manual just gave a one word response to "if you can't see your files, play, etc. Basically, "They are not support" But when I compared the files to the supported list, the file types were listed. TURN out buried deep (ten clicks to find) on the Sony Support site was a size limit on files of 5Gb on non exFAT servers. Mind you exFAT is not a common file allocation system on media servers.
Pros: Great picture
Cons: 1) bad online help 2) video file size limitations 3) cumbersome menu system
I've been using the 55HX750 for about 2 weeks now & couldn't be happier. I went with another Sony because my 40" Bravia has served me well over the past 2+ years & have good experiences with the brand. Picture is clear & sharp, color rendition is very good. I watch a lot of sports & have had no issues with fast action on this set. The wifi interface is a bit cumbersome to use, but to be honest I don't really use it that much so it's not an issue for me. An excellent product at a good price.
Sony makes top tier HDTVs. Connectivity and feature sets are best in class. I was disappointed with the quality of the sound from this set and the limited ability to adjust the sound. It really requires a quality sound system to fully enjoy the quality of the picture. Will go with the Bose GS series.
Pros: Picture quality, slim design, conductivity
Cons: Sound system and adjustments.
The color & clarity of the picture is really 5 stars. But the anti-motion/judder is lacking. The juddering is very noticeable @ times. Very disappointing. Thus only the 3 star rating. Would have like to seen more component inputs, but knew it did not have as many as I would have liked. Putting the TV w/stand together was easy for 2 retired old people. Was thinking of returning it because the juddering was so noticeable, but repacking would be a real pain. The instruction manual is poor in providing info. On screen menu was better in some aspects. TV is hooked up to Dish.
Pros: Color & clarity of picture.
Cons: Anti-motion electronics not as expected. Poor instruction manual.
This TV has the best picture quality I have ever seen. I was debating on whether to go with LED or Plasma, and I'm glad I went with the LED. With the 240Hz refresh rate, the picture quality is pristine. The blacks are solid with no impairments. This TV also has built in WiFi with NetFlix and other Internet Apps, so I don't have to run NetFlix off the Blu Ray player. I've only had the TV a couple weeks, and the only con is the inability to adjust the picture settings (brightness, color, contrast) when running NetFlix or any other Internet APP. The picture settings are only for the inputs (HDMI, composite, etc). The way around this is to run the NetFlix from the Blu Ray player since it is connected via HDMI.
Pros: Excellent picture quality.
Cons: Inability to adjust picture settings for the Internet Apps.
|Screen Size
|Screen Design
|Aspect Ratio
|Screen Resolution (pixels)
|1920 x 1080
|Screen Refresh Rate
|240 Hz
|Backlighting Type (for LCD TVs)
|LED (edge-lit w/ frame dim)
|Quantum Dot Color (for LCD TVs)
|HDR (High Dynamic Range)
|Internet Movie Streaming
|Bluetooth Audio Streaming
|Voice Remote
|Picture In Picture
|Parts Warranty
|1 Year
|Labor Warranty
|1 Year
|Type of Warranty Service
|Total Video Inputs
|HDMI Inputs
|Component Video Inputs
|Composite Video Inputs
|RF Inputs
|Ethernet Port
|USB Ports
|Optical Digital Audio Output
1 Rear
|Analog Audio Output
1 Rear
|Power Consumption
|Estimated Yearly Electricity Use (EnergyGuide)
|119 kWh
|Estimated Yearly Energy Cost (EnergyGuide)
|Dimensions & Mounting Information
|Width (inches)
|Height with Stand (inches)
|Height without Stand (inches)
|Depth with Stand (inches)
|Depth without Stand (inches)
|Stand Width (inches)
|Weight with Stand
|52 lbs
|Weight without Stand
|42.3 lbs
|Wall Mountable
|Wall Bracket Included
|Pedestal Stand
|Assembly required
Video Features
Audio Features
Network/USB/PC Functions
Convenience Features
Remote Control
Mounting Options
Dynamic Edge LED Backlight with Frame Dimming Technology: Dynamic Edge LED backlighting with frame dimming delivers pitch-black night scenes and illuminates bright scenes so they pop with vibrant color; all in a slimmer, more attractive design. Rather than illuminating the entire screen, lighting is boosted in just the right areas for greater contrast and a more realistic picture.
X-Reality Engine: Sony's X-Reality engine lets you enjoy a vivid, lifelike picture experience by analyzing each scene so you see sharpened images, amazing contrast, and fine detail. Blu-ray Disc movies, cable TV, satellite TV, and even Web videos each place unique demands on the processing circuits of a TV. The X-Reality Engine helps get the best results from different video sources. The X-Reality Engine analyzes the scene and selectively applies a variety of noise reduction and image processes prior to upscaling in order to get the best results from different sources. The X-Reality Engine performs Interlace-to-Progressive (IP) conversion and upscaling as required. Film-based 24 frames-per-second content undergoes special IP conversion to reduce the "stair-step jaggies" that can form at high-contrast edges.
HDTV Tuner: The TV has built-in over-the-air HDTV (ATSC) and Digital Cable (QAM) tuners, so you don't need a separate set-top box to receive and decode over-the-air HDTV/SDTV or unencrypted Digital Cable signals.
1080p Resolution: The Sony KDL-HX750 series television has a HD native resolution of 1920 x 1080 (1080p). All video signals from standard definition and high definition sources are displayed at 1920 x 1080. The Sony KDL-HX750 series TV is equipped with HDMI, Component, and Composite video inputs.
24pTrue Cinema (24p Input Capability): Many movies are filmed at 24 frames per second (fps) and prime time TV programs are video taped at 24p. Seizing on an opportunity, some studios are taking a purist approach and encoding high definition video content such as Blu-ray Disc in 24p. Sony wisely takes advantage of this by including 24p input capability via HDMI on this television producing images that are smooth and natural looking.
MotionFlow XR 480: Sony's MotionFlow XR 480 technology combines 240 frames-per-second with an advanced backlight blinking system to simulate a 480 Hz effect. MotionFlow XR 480 provides smooth and precise detail during fast-action scenes for fast action movies and sports by reducing blur caused by quick camera movements, enhancing image sharpness, and overall creating a clearer picture. You can select between 4 settings - Smooth, Standard, Clear, or Clear Plus.
CineMotion: This function provides improved picture movement and reduces picture blur and graininess for film-based content. There are two settings.
Infinite Dynamic Contrast Ratio: Dynamic contrast ratio compares the luminance of a 100 IRE (white) signal with that of a 0 IRE (black) signal. When the TV receives a 0 IRE signal the backlight is turned off and the luminance measurement is 0.00 cd/m2. The resulting dynamic contrast ratio is infinite.
LightSensor Technology: The TV's built-in Light Sensor automatically adjusts the picture brightness based on the amount of light in the room. As a result, you can enjoy automatic customized picture brightness and save energy without lifting a finger.
Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE): The televisions Advance Contrast Enhancer (ACE) automatically adjusts backlight and contrast to the most suitable setting judging from the brightness of the screen. This setting is especially effective for dark scenes, and will increase the contrast distinction for the darker picture scenes. The ACE can be set to High, Medium, Low, or Off.
3D Ready: The Sony KDL-HX750 series LED-LCD TV gives you the option to enjoy 3D (three-dimensional) pictures and graphics. You can enjoy an immersive, realistic movie and gaming experience in Full HD 1080p using Sony's proprietary 3D Active Glasses, (158BR250, sold separately) and connecting a compatible 3D-ready Blu-ray Disc Player, Satellite Receiver, or PlayStation3 gaming console (all sold separately) to the HDTV via HDMI. When viewed through the active shutter glasses, the on-screen image is precisely synchronized and delivered with the Full HD 1080p image intact, for an optimum 3D viewing experience. Sony's 3D technology displays high speed synchronized left- and right-eye images to deliver an immersive 3D experience. And since each frame you see is shown at Full HD resolution, the 3D action still offers razor-sharp detail. You can adjust the following 3D settings.
Note: The 3D display mode is automatically selected when a 3D signal is detected. The recommended viewing angle and distance for 3D viewing is 120° (left/right) at 3'-20'.
Wide Mode: The Wide Mode feature allows you to select the screen display which fits the current video image and TV screen best. Based on the original signal source, you may see black bars around the picture or just on the both sides of the screen. Sometimes you will see the picture fill the full screen.
|Wide Mode
|16:9 Original Source
|4:3 Original Source
|Wide Zoom
|Enlarges the picture to fill the screen with minimal distortion.
|Enlarges the center portion of the 4:3 picture proportionately, while the left and right edges of the screen are stretched to fill the screen.
|Displays a 4:3 picture in its original aspect ratio when the original source is 4:3 (available for 480i or 480p sources).
|Displays the 4:3 picture in its original size with black bars at the left and right sides to fill the screen (available for 480i or 480p sources).
|Displays the picture at its original size.
|Stretches the entire 4:3 picture horizontally only to fill the screen.
|Enlarges the picture proportionately, both vertically and horizontally.
|Enlarges the entire 4:3 picture proportionately to fill the screen (useful for watching Letterbox movies).
|Stretches the picture horizontally, while fitting captions on the screen.
|Stretches the picture horizontally to fill a 16:9 screen, while fitting captions in the screen.
|Stretches a black-framed game image to fill the screen.
|Auto Wide
Automatically changes screen settings based upon incoming video signal and content.
Picture Modes: You can select one of the following picture modes:
Note: The TV's picture adjustments can be made for a particular A/V input or for all inputs. You can also lock the television's picture adjustments to prevent the TV's Picture Settings from being changed.
Advanced Video Settings: In addition to the Picture mode, the Advanced Video Settings menu also features the following:
Pro Picture Setup: The Pro Picture Setup menu allows for Color Matrix and HDMI adjustments.
Twin Picture (PIP): This feature lets you watch two pictures simultaneously. You can have view an image from a TV program and external input (excluding PC) at the same time. One picture will be displayed as the main image, while to other is displayed in an inset window or side-by-side. You can flip-flop images and switch audio between the two images.
ARC (Audio Return Channel): The Audio Return Channel in HDMI 1.4 enables a TV, via a single HDMI cable, to send audio data "upstream" to an A/V receiver; increasing user flexibility and eliminating the need for any separate S/PDIF audio connection. This feature allows audio to be sent from the television to your A/V receiver through the same HDMI cable already being used to send audio/video to the television. This eliminates the need for extra cables connected to the TV. ARC allows audio from the TV tuner, Network connection, inserted USB device, HDMI inputs, or any analog connected device to be heard through your ARC compatible AV receiver via the television's HDMI ARC input. The audio from the TV's tuner, network connection, and HDMI inputs can pass as Dolby Digital or 2ch PCM. USB and analog connected devices will be output as 2ch PCM only.
Note: Both the television and the receiver must support ARC for this function to work properly. When connecting an A/V receiver that is compatible with Audio Return Channel (ARC), connect it to the TV's HDMI IN 1 port. If connecting a system that is incompatible Audio Return Channel (ARC), an additional audio connection via Digital Audio Out (Optical) is necessary.
Sound Position: The speakers of this TV provide different sound images according to how you position the television. You can select between "Table-Top Stand" or "Wall Mount/Floor Stand" to provide the best sound quality based on the television's placement.
Sound Mode: You can customize the bass and treble or use one of the three preset sound modes:
Note: The TV's sound adjustments can be made for a particular A/V input or for all inputs.
Equalizer: The TV is equipped with a 7-band EQ (100Hz, 200Hz, 500Hz, 1kHz, 2kHz, 5kHz, 10kHz). You can adjust the level of each band between -12 to +12 dB.
S-FORCE Front Surround: S-FORCE front surrounds provides a virtual surround experience made possible using just two front speakers. You can active a 3D mode to generate a virtual three-dimensional sound effect.
Sound Enhancer: The Sound Enhancer reproduces clear sound by complementing high-frequency bands.
Advanced Auto Volume: The Advanced Auto Volume function keeps the volume level constant across all programs and advertisements.
Volume Offset: Adjusts the volume level of the current input (TV or video input) relative to other inputs.
Audio Outputs: The Sony HDTV offers analog and digital audio outputs.
Wired or Wireless Network Connection: The Sony KDL-HX750 series LED-LCD TV supports a wired or wireless network connection. Via the TV's network connection your can enjoy music, video, and still-image files stored on your computer. You can also listen to internet radio and watch online movies, via the Bravia Entertainment Network.
Bravia Entertainment Network: Once the TV has been connected to your home network (via Ethernet or WiFi), you can have your favorite internet content delivered to the Sony LED-LCD TV screen via Bravia Internet Video, Widgets, Yahoo Connect TV, or the built-in web browser. You can stream movies, videos, music, and more with Bravia Internet Video; while Bravia Internet Widgets allow you to easily access local news, sports headlines, and social media feeds. Yahoo connected TV provides additional online news, sports, weather, and shopping apps; while the built-in web-browser lets you search on-line content by URL.
Bravia Network Entertainment Library: Currently the Bravia Network Entertainment Library contains the following online content and widgets. (as of 4/5/2012).
|Bravia Internet Video
|Video Unlimited: Video Unlimited is the ultimate source for the latest hit movies, classics and TV shows from every major studio. Forget monthly subscriptions or late fees. Watch what you want, when you want. Buy or rent titles in SD, 1080p HD or 3D (select titles) up to 28 days before Netflix or Redbox.
|Netflix: Unlimited Movies & TV episodes: For only $7.99 a month, instantly watch unlimited movies & TV episodes streaming over the Internet to your Sony TV.
|Hulu+: Hulu Plus lets you watch current hit TV shows, classic series, and acclaimed movies anytime in HD for $7.99/month with limited advertising.
|Flixster: Get the hottest new movie trailers from Flixster.
|Amazon Instant Video: Amazon Instant Video lets you search, browse and rent your favorites instantly, right from your couch. Choose from over 90,000 movies and TV shows, including the latest new releases
|SnagFilms: The best Indie movies on demand.
|The Wiggles: Access to the Wiggles & Friends channel.
|Crackle: The next-generation video entertainment network with hundreds of movies, TV shows and original series from the vast Sony Pictures library.
|Music Unlimited: Music Unlimited offers you unlimited access to millions of songs from every major label. Forget syncing MP3 files across multiple devices; simply connect to the cloud to instantly experience the music you love anytime, anyplace. Enjoy timeless favorites or dare to try something new; all without paying for each track or album.
|Pandora: Free, personalized internet radio playing only music you love. Pandora brings an effortless personal soundtrack into your living room. Enter your favorite artists and enjoy stations created just for you. Rate songs as they play, because Pandora caters to your tastes and adapts stations to your feedback on the spot.
|Slacker: Slacker is a free personalized radio service with millions of songs from thousands of artists. Simply select your favorite type of music from one of over 120 expert-programmed genre stations. As you listen, give feedback and the station becomes personalized just for you.
|Singing Fool: The Singing Fool music video collection: rock, pop, rap, R&B, country and more. Thousands of titles means there's something for everyone on Singing Fool.
|Berliner Philharmoniker: Enjoy one of the world's best orchestras directly from your connected Sony TV.
|MoshCam.com: Over 800 full length concert videos recorded in Sydney, Australia's leading music venues including Jane's Addiction, Gary Numan, Ben Harper, John Butler Trio, The Hives, Blondie, Jarvis Cocker, Public Enemy and many more.
|Photobucket: View your photos and videos and share them with friends and family for free.
|Picasa: Google's free, integrated photo-sharing where you can view all of your photos from your account.
|Shutterfly: One of the largest photo sharing and personal publishing services. Login and view your account's content on the Sony TV.
|Social Media
|YouTube: The world's most popular online destination, comes to your Sony Connected Device. This forum allows people to discover and watch millions of originally-created videos.
|Skype: You can enjoy free high-definition Skype-to-Skype video calls from the comfort of your living room through this Sony TV. Simply attach the Sony compact microphone/camera (158CBR100, sold separately) and see your friends on the big screen.
|XOS College Sports: Offers the largest digital library of college sports content, spanning 75+ years of competition. Watch full games, original programming, season highlights and documentaries both past and present. All the best conferences, teams and sports are here.
|NHL Vault: Gives you access to over 800 classic games, as well as full length and condensed game replays with no blackouts.
|GolfLink.com: Built for golfers, and covering over 21,000 courses, Golflink.com brings you everything you need to track and improve your game.
|Billabong's: Snow, Surf, Skate and Wake action from around the globe, featuring Billabong's all-star athletes, swimwear and fashion models.
|AOL HD: Watch the latest in technology from Engadget and TechCrunch, catch up on the latest celebrity gossip from Huffington Post, preview the latest movies from Moviefone, or even learn how to cook like a pro from personalities such as Curtis Stone, Sam Talbot and Gail Simmons - all from AOL HD.
|eHow: Watch the latest videos from Howcast, your source for the best how-to videos. From how to write a resume - to how to survive a bear attack, Howcast shows you how to do just about anything; wherever and whenever you want to know how.
|Dr. Oz: Entertaining, high octane, multi-topic hour that is equal parts life-saving information combined with an "embarrassment-free zone" sensibility where nothing is off limits or out of bounds. The show is all about what impacts viewers, their families, their health and their well-being.
|Livestrong: The destination for health, fitness and lifestyle videos. Take responsibility and live an active, healthy lifestyle every day.
|Tara Stiles: Useful and fun yoga routines for everyone.
|Style.com: The definitive voice of fashion online, providing comprehensive coverage of the major fashion shows and authoritative reports on seasonal trends.
|elgourmet.com: With original contents for those who know how to enjoy the pleasures of life, elgourmet.com offers 24 hrs of uninterrupted programming for experts in fine living.
|Epicurious: Learn how to prepare dishes from around the world, tour celebrity kitchens and get tips on entertaining.
|WealthTV: WealthTV is the premier luxury lifestyle and entertainment cable network that gives you a vicarious look into the American Dream. From the fastest cars to the most exotic destinations, WealthTV allows you to travel the world and live the good life without having to leave your living room.
|uStudio: Professionally-produced video clips and how-to videos. Named 'Best of Web' by BusinessWeek readers in 2008.
|DailyMotion: Engages your world with video of your interests and hobbies, eyewitness accounts of recent news and distant places and everything else from strange to spectacular.
|NPR: Acclaimed audio podcasts from National Public Radio featuring news, talk, and entertainment.
|NewsLook: Whether you're interested in anything ranging from World News and US Politics to Recipes and Celebrity Gossip, NewsLook's topic based video RSS reader has everything you're looking for available in real time. Watch news on the go or from the comfort of your home on your connected Sony TV.
|Facebook: Millions of people use Facebook everyday to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet.
|Twitter: Instantly connect to what's most important to you. Follow your friends, experts, favorite celebrities, and breaking news. Get breaking news, headlines, and top stories from leading news sources, designed for the big screen.
|Flikr: Flickr is the best way to store, sort, search and share your photos online. Flickr helps you organize that huge mass of photos you have and offers a way for you and your friends and family to tell stories about them.
|Yahoo Connect TV
|Yahoo Connect TV
|Yahoo Finance/News/Weather: Get stock quotes, business news, and market updates plus fast access to your Yahoo! portfolio, on your TV. Choose a location and get a snapshot of current weather conditions, the 5-day forecast and more, on your TV.
|Yahoo Sports: View breaking sports news, headlines, scores, and videos from the leading internet sports site designed for Internet TV.
|Fantasy Football: The web's #1 fantasy football game comes to your Sony TV
|ESPN Score Center: The ESPN ScoreCenter TV app gives you access to latest scores, upcoming games, stats, and even more! On demand, and right on your TV screen. Browse through multiple sports such as NFL, MLB, and the NBA. The ESPN ScoreCenter TV app also puts you in the driver seat by enabling you to customize your TV experience selecting your favorite sports and teams.
|Home Shopping Network: HSN Shop by Remote interactive shopping gives you the ability to purchase items using just your TV's remote control. It's easy, secure and the fastest way to buy HSN products.
|Ebay: Get real-time updates, place bids, and monitor your favorite items on Ebay from your Sony LED-LCD TV.
|Disney: Experience the magic of Disney anytime. Rock out to music videos and laugh along to clips from your favorite Disney stars. See what TV shows and movies are coming Ssoon and much more. All from Disney
|Opera Internet Brower
|Opera Internet Brower
|Sony.com: Access to Sony official website
|Gracenote Music Service: Links to the Gracenote Music Service which contains more than five million tracks for identification and recommendations.
|URL Searches: Browse the internet via keyword & URL searches.
Note: Visit the Sony Entertainment Network for the latest internet content. Bravia Internet Video Requires home network with a connection speed of at least 2.5 Mbps recommended (10 Mbps for HD content). Video quality and picture size vary and are dependent upon broadband speed and delivery by content provider. Online content may require additional fees and/or PC registration. Available online content may change without notice (visit Sony.com for latest information regarding online content).
DLNA Certified: DLNA certification allows you to enjoy various content from your home network, such as photo (JPEG), music (MP3//WMA/LPCM), and video (AVCHD/MPEG) files stored on your Windows 7 PC (or other DLNA Certified media server) on the Sony HDTV. The TV can be connected to your compatible PC using a hardwired Ethernet (LAN) connection or Wi-Fi connection (via built-in WiFi). This eliminates the need to copy your photo, video, and music files to a separate USB storage device.
WiFi Direct: Sometimes your friends want to share their personal photos and videos on your beautiful HDTV. With Sony's WiFi Direct Mode, your friends can wirelessly transfer personal content (such as photos & videos) to your TV without connecting to your home network. WiFi Direct completely bypasses the WiFi access point/router, so it's easy to set up. Streaming of copy-protected content and other certain formats are not supported.
USB Port: The Sony LED-LCD TV features two USB (type-A) ports for sharing your photos (JPEG) or videos (MPEG1/MPEG2/H.264/WMV), and listening to music (MP3) from your connected digital camera, USB-enabled MP3 player, or other USB storage device. You USB-connected device must USB mass storage class compliant and be formatted in FAT 16/32.
PC Compatible: A 15-pin HD15 jack allows you to connect your personal computer to the display. There is also a corresponding stereo mini-jack (3.5mm) for the computer's audio signal. The television can be used as a monitor for your PC through the TV's RGB HD-15 input or HDMI 2 input. The TV supports the following PC resolutions - VGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA, SXGA and HDTV. When a PC is connected to the TV and the PC input is selected, the PC settings screen is available.
Info Banner: The television's Info Banner displays information about the currently viewed TV channel and program.
Favorites: The Favorites function makes it easy to quickly access your favorite TV content. The Favorites menu manages your preferred TV channels, external inputs, media files, Internet content, and widgets for quick and easy access. The Favorites feature provides quick access to your frequently used items, such as preferred TV channels or external inputs. In addition, your favorite media files, Internet content. and Widgets can be shown in the Favorites screen.
Recommendations: The Sony TV also features a "Recommendations" function which automatically analyzes your interests by referencing your viewing history to find programs and items you may like, and presents them in the TV's Favorites menu.
TrackID: This feature searches for information about music and video you've heard and seen from the TV. You can obtain information about music and video played on the current program, external input, connected USB storage device, or network connection. You can also start a new search for information about other audio/video content by entering a keyword (track title, album name, and/or artist name).
Scene Mode: You can access the following scene modes from the remote control to optimize both picture and sound quality.
Input/Channel Label: You can assign an icon or name to an external input and connected equipment, as well as edit channel labels to your preference.
Close Captions (CC): The Sony televisions provides Analog Closed Captions and Digital Closed Captions. The Digital CC offers customizable text, font, and size.
ENERGY STAR Certified: This Sony LED-LCD TV exceeds ENERGY STAR requirements by incorporating advanced power saving features such as LightSensor Technology, Advance Contrast Enhancer, and the following Power Management functions.
Timers: The Sony LED-LCD TV offers On and Sleep timers.
Parental Control: You can select a viewing limitation based on the TV and movie ratings. Three presets are available (Child, Youth, and Young Adult) or the limitation can be customized to specific industry ratings. You can also block specific channels. The control is accessed and protected by a 4-digit password.
Input/Channel Block: This feature allows you to block certain channels or inputs regardless of program ratings.
i-Manual: The Sony TV comes with a Quick Setup Guide booklet. The TV's full owner's manual can be accessed on the TV using the remote's i-Manual button.
Automatic Software Updates: Automatic software updates are done through the TV's Ethernet (LAN) port or built-in WiFi. The TV's software updates when the television is in standby mode. An immediate software update (ver. PKG1.114AAA) is available, as of 4/5/2012. Visit the Sony eSupport site for the latest software updates.
Wireless Remote Control: The TV comes supplied with an IR remote control for wireless operation of the television. The remote is designed for TV operation only, unless used with Bravia Sync AV components connected by HDMI. The remote offers a dedicated Netflix button to instantly access your Netflix account on the Sony TV.
Bravia Sync: This TV is equipped with Bravia Sync, an HDMI Control function that allows communication between Sony TVs and other Sony equipment when they are connected via HDMI. Bravia Sync helps you connect compatible Sony Bravia HDMI equipment, such as a BD player or AV amplifier, to the TV and control the external equipment using the television's remote control. With the "Control for HDMI" function, Bravia Sync helps to communicate with Bravia Sync-compatible equipment using HDMI CEC (Consumer Electronics Control). Bravia Sync-compatible equipment is listed as a new input source in the television's menu. The television offers the following Bravia Sync operations for the listed device.
Note: Control for HDMI (Bravia Sync) is only available for the connected Sony equipment that has the Bravia Sync logo.
Mobile Device Control: You can turn your iPod touch, iPhone, iPad (running iOS 4.0+), or compatible Android smartphone (2.1+) into a versatile remote when you download the free Media Remote app for Apple App Store or the Android Market. The Media Remote app requires that the TV and Apple iOS or Android remote device be connected to the same wireless network with the remote device connected through an 802.11 access point (802.11n recommended). Enjoy complete remote function, as well as full QWERTY keyboard.
Tabletop Stand: The Sony television comes supplied with a tabletop pedestal stand which must be attached using the supplied hardware. The television weighs 52.0 lbs with the stand attached. The tabletop stand allows the television to swivel 10° left or right.
Optional Wall Mount Brackets: The stand can be removed, allowing you to wall-mount the TV using an optional wall-mount bracket. The TV has 4 threaded screw holes with a horizontal spacing of 300mm and a vertical spacing of 300mm). The screw holes all accept M6 (6mm) screws. The TV weighs 42.3 lbs without the stand.
Note: When mounting the TV on the stand or a wall (with optional bracket) leave 4" of clearance on each side of the television and 11.875" above the television for adequate ventilation.
Attached AC Power Cord: The television if fitted with an attached 5' AC power cord which is terminated by a straight two-prong AC plug. The AC plug sits 1.75" from the wall.
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Should the FAA Allow Controllers to Take Sleep Breaks?
As this somnambulant controller situation goes from the ridiculous to the utterly ridiculous, I was happy to be diverted by this video of the Navy dousing a flaming F-18 that trapped aboard the U.S.S. Carl Vinson last week. I'll get to why the two are related in a minute, but first let me say that I'm glad this is the centennial year of Naval Aviation. Perhaps the Navy can explain to the world at large how it is they return from a cruise with any airplanes, never mind entire wings.
The reason I say that is because I've embarked aboard a couple of carriers and watched, in detail, how the Navy does flight operations, especially recoveries. Off the coast of North Carolina, I stood on the LSO platform of the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt on a black, overcast night while a couple of air wings re-qualified for deployment to the Persian Gulf. To get a better view of the trap, one of the LSOs suggested I lower my goggles and poke my head out from behind the spray shield as the airplane passed over the ramp. The sensation is shocking. The airplane whizzes by, the hook drags on the deck creating not just a few sparks, but a big geyser of them, followed by a slam onto the deck that shakes the hell out of the entire aft end of the boat. The unexpected part is that after the arrestment, when the pilot lights the burners briefly, the cool breeze momentarily turns into a hot, oily blast seasoned by bits of loose deck abrasive material and slivers of broken wire, hence the goggles. They'll do that routine all night long, one after another.
It's not so much of an amazement that any of this works well, but that it works at all. There are so many opportunities for something�or many somethings�to go wrong on a carrier and almost all of them are bad. By long experience, the Navy has evolved reliable, interlocking and overlapping safety systems in which everything is watched and monitored. They film everything. The watchers have watchers. (Ever see that video of the crewman being sucked into the engine of an A-6? That happened on TR and they've got it in the film library.)
On the LSO platform there's an enlisted sailor�the hook talker--whose only job, in daylight, is to watch the airplanes on downwind and check that their wheels, flaps and hooks are down, which he announces out loud: "Hornet, wheels down, flaps down, hook down." The need to triple check things like this is obvious. A gear-up landing on a carrier would be disastrous. But the hook talker does something else that's interesting. When the airplanes roll out on final, he says "groove," then "short" when it's close in and, finally, "ramp" when it's crossing the ship's ramp. The LSOs can obviously see the airplane so it's not obvious why the hook talker makes this call.
Later in my ship tour I found out the reason for these calls. Carriers have four cross deck pendants�wires�to catch the aircraft hooks. Each wire has its own arrestment engine just below deck, each situated in a long, narrow compartment. These are basically giant hydraulic rams that soak up the energy as the wire pays out. They require care and feeding by three our four operators in each compartment, who have to get the engine back into battery after each arrestment and set the ram's hydraulic orifice for whatever is landing next. In other words, they've got fingers, arms, legs and heads in and around machinery that within seconds will explode into violent motion. So they've got their own guy (or woman) who listens via interphone and repeats the hook talker's calls. When they hear "ramp," they reflexively back away from the machinery and wait.
They never know which wire will get the trap. The night we were aboard, three and four were getting most of the business. Yet, in the midst of all of this, with cables whizzing over sheaves, blobs of grease flying and the oven-like heat of all that energy being dissipated by hydraulic oil pushed through valves and pipes, a sailor slept. In the corner of one of the compartments, out of the way, he snoozed as soundly as if he were in his own bedroom. The senior chief conducting the tour pointed out that these kids had been on duty for 18 hours straight. Naps aren't begrudged; the Navy goes with the circadian flow. Or at least on this ship they did.
And that brings us full circle to the FAA's problem, where controller naps aren't just begrudged, but are a firing offense. This despite the fact that the swing shift routine some controllers have to work is a pace perhaps more killing than those sailors aboard the Roosevelt. And this despite the fact that none of the sleeping incidents have compromised safety and most have occurred at facilities where there are so few airplanes that separation isn't even needed, much less compromised.
Like the FAA, the Navy addresses its safety problems by throwing people at them. But if what I saw on the Roosevelt is at all a common practice, at the unit level, it also recognizes that humans have limits and you get more out of them if you don't construct unrealistic rules that force them to do what they simply cannot. And throwing more people into the mix probably doesn't help.
It looks like the FAA may be recognizing this, albeit slowly. It announced this week that schedules would allow more time between shifts for controllers headed for a string of mids. Assigning controllers to midshifts for longer periods might also help, giving them a chance to adjust to night hours. One study the FAA and NATCA did seemed suggest that sleep breaks of up to 2.5 hours would help.
It might come to that. If it works for the Navy, why not the FAA? Not that the Navy is perfect. The night after we left the TR, the U.S.S. Leyte Gulf and the TR collided, doing a total of $16 million in damages to both ships. The cause? A communication and procedures oversight that somehow slipped through the Navy's overlapping systems, showing that even well-rested people make mistakes.
TUESDAY ADDITION: A reader wrote to remind me that most of the controllers and supervisors involved in these sleeping incidents have been suspended, not fired. Good point. I was in error to say sleeping is a firing offense. The FAA did say the controller involved in the Knoxville incident will be fired.
Today, we're reporting about another incident in which a controller was watching a movie on a portable DVD player while working traffic during a slow period at Cleveland Center. Who was it who said controllers are their own worse enemies? I would suggest this to any controller considering this sort of thing: How's it going to play with the guy sitting in seat 29B? Does he have a reasonable expectation that you, as a controller, should do what you're paid to do; focus on separating airplanes?
Seems to me the answer should be yes, even though the movie-watching thing probably isn't much of a safety breach, if it is at all. But on a scale of professional best practices, it rates about a three.