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Nissan Murano vs Toyota Highlander vs Subaru B9 Tribeca vs Honda Pilot
Hi all!
I am currently checking out the above mentioned mid size sub 40K SUVs. I was surprised not to find a comparison of the Highlander and Murano and thought I would add the new Tribeca too.
I am looking for Sat Nav as a very important feature all three cars have it available though at the high end scale.
I am looking for advice and ideas that I'm sure others have considered before me. Thanks in advance.
I am currently checking out the above mentioned mid size sub 40K SUVs. I was surprised not to find a comparison of the Highlander and Murano and thought I would add the new Tribeca too.
I am looking for Sat Nav as a very important feature all three cars have it available though at the high end scale.
I am looking for advice and ideas that I'm sure others have considered before me. Thanks in advance.
cpp788x Posts: 47Hi,
When the smoke clears it basically comes down to 5 things:
1. - Gas Mileage - Murano is the best unless you go for a Highlander hybrid.
2. - Features - the Tribeca gives you a lot of features standard that you need to upgrade to get in the other models. You need Nav so that's not really an issue
3, - Space - Tribeca wins here but not by much..
4.- Drive it - which ever you like better wins - they are all good cars.
5. - The dealer - A reputable dealer is the most important thing to me! I'm in NJ and the highway dealers are mostly crooks - They treat you like cattle.
The Tribeca has the lowest center of gravity of the 3 with the largest wheels (w/4 wheel vented disc brakes) on paper it should be more stable on the road. Again you need to drive it and wait for reviews to come out.
I have a 2001 base Forester and it handles like a cheetah. very surefooted. For me it's Subaru.
mikegia5 Posts: 4I just bought the Murano last week and I really wanted the Nav system but decided against it because they are making some very nice portable car units (Magellan 700, Garmin 26xx?, Tom Tom) that are a lot cheaper; you can take from one car to another, or take with you on vacation when you rent a car.
Good Luck!
Mike G., Phoenix
sweet_subie Posts: 1,394I completely agree with mike on NAV.
I just bought the Garmin c330, it is better than any in-car NAV. It is simply amazing, the accuracy, easy of use, portability.
I think the Murano would win on features. There are some features that you simply cannot get on the Tribeca -- memory seats, power exit, tilt & telescoping steering wheel, auto up/down power windows, power adjustable pedals, Smart Key, upgraded Bose stereo. These are all useful features standard on the SE. Plus, if you order the nav and DVD, it comes with rearview monitor, which I'm not sure if it is available on the Tribeca.
Also I would expect the Murano to be faster, since it has a decided torque advantage.
I think styling is a draw, each has it's own love-it-or-hate-it front end.
I currently have a pocket PC Bluetooth based GPS system which works well and I will continue to use that for travel, I have used it in both the USA and European travel. What I want to get away from is all the cords and plugs I have running all over the place between the GPS, ipod and portable Sirrus radio.
The Murano solves all those problems quite easily. But I love the "classic styling" of the Highlander, when I see a silver or gold one drive by my heart goes pitterpat. I currently have a 2001 Outback and I still do like the Subaru. The Tribeca and the Murano have such modern styling I'm not 100% sure I'm comfortable with for the next 3-5 years, though perhaps the Highlander will look real old in that same 3-5 years, a Toyota dealer showed me the prototype Highlander 2007 and it looks more like the Murano and Tribeca than the current Highlander.
I'm still investigating pricing but it seems the Murano and Tribeca MSRPs would be about 2-3k more than the Highlander but I'm not quite sure what actual deals can be negotiated. I would think it would be hardest for the brand new Tribeca though we have bought 2 Subarus fron the same dealer and are happy doing business there.
tigger5753 Posts: 43Funny thing - when I first saw pics of the B9X, I thought it looked a lot like the Murano, except for the front end.
I've only looked at the B9X brochure so I can't really comment on it, other than it has a nice lookin interior, but I don't like the exterior at (especially the front end).
I've driven a Highlander and the ride was very sedan like. Interior was typical Toyota - simple and functional. To me, it was a bland vehicle, not an exciting ride.
I ended up getting a Murano. Ride is more sports-car like - very smooth ride, but if you push it, it responds like a sports car. It did take me a while to get used to the exterior before I considered it. Compared to the B9x and the Highlander, you get a lot of equipment - Bose 6 disc CD, HID lamps, Moonroof, power front/heated seats, auto climate control,etc. Also standard that few vehicles have are:
reclining rear seats, power adjustable pedals, CVT (which is so smooth)
And like bodbl3 mentioned, birds-eye NAV, smartkey, and a rear backup monitor are available.
Test drive them all, and your instincts will decide for you. Good luck!
Why is the Pilot not included in this comparison title?
The ones I listed were the three I'm currently looking at. I guess the Honda Pilot is in the same category and there are probably several other vehicles that fit too. I'm interested in other comparisons as well.
Fwiw, the Toyota Highlander vs. Honda Pilot discussion is still active (barely) although the Honda Pilot vs. Nissan Murano one faded away.
Steve, Host
Steve, why can't these threads be combined? It seem silly to leave the Pilot out of this discussion. I know the original poster left it out because he wasn't considering it, but I think it should be included as I know others would be cross-shopping the Pilot with these vehicles listed in this thread.
It's funny; when I first saw pics of the Tribeca I flashed on the Murano and the FX35. The Highlander is a bit curvy I guess, but the Pilot strikes me as more of a minivan on asteroids. Both look bigger than the Subbie in the photos.
Nosing around the Subaru B9 Tribeca (B9X) board, it seems that Subaru aimed at the Pilot and Highlander market.
We aren't adverse to tossing more cars into the mix if people want to.
No one has mentioned the MDX either (but it's early yet).
Steve, Host
I was at a Subie dealer the other day and saw a salesman's pocket "sales aid" in which Subaru was comparing the Tribeca to its primary competition, which are:
• Pilot EX (not LX).
• Murano SL (that trim level only)
• Volvo XC90 2.5 AWD
• VW Touareg V6
I know there are others too, but those are the ones SOA feels are the primary competition, as the others were not listed.
I think, as Steve said, a lot of people think of the MDX and (especially) the Pilot, as AWD minivans. Their full-size widths also don't lead to a natural comparison with the Tribeca and Murano. I'm actually kind of surprised people include the Highlander in this comparison, since it offers none of the styling and driving excitment that the Tribeca and Murano offer. But I suppose it's comparable in terms of price and size.
primary competition
If you'll allow me a bit of Monday morning cynicism, I think I'd be worried about cannibalizing Outback sales....
Steve, Host
Reclining rear seats - actually the Tribeca has that in the 2nd and 3rd rows, so it takes the edge here. The 2nd row slides fore-and-aft up to 8", too.
Tribeca's DVD is the biggest in the SUV segment - 9". Most are 7" nowadays, only the Honda Odyssey minivan has gone to a 9" screen.
Just for fun, I priced the other two out just like a loaded Tribeca (NAV, DVD, heated leather seats, big rims, etc.), and MSRP comes out to $38k for the Tribeca, $39k for the Highlander, and $41k for the Murano.
The latter two may have rebates and deeper discounts so I think price is a wash, pick the one you like best. Murano does offer some unique features but then it'll cost more so like I said, price is roughly the same.
In fact, I bet a lot of Outbacks will be cross-shopped with the Tribeca.
rsholland, "The Forums Test Drive Team" #157, 23 May 2005 6:50 pm
Steve, Host
Steve, I never disagreed with you on that point. I was just posting what SOA gave their sales people as "sales ammo."
Well, I learned long ago not to be too surprised by what people cross shop. It'll be interesting to see if the Subbie salespeople wind up selling Tribeca's to Outback owners instead of luring Pilot shoppers to the showroom.
Steve, Host
Subaru surprised everyone and price the Tribeca $1200 below a similarly equipped Outback VDC.
So I don't know if we'll see lower prices for the 2006 Outback VDC, but if not the value shopper will buy the Tribeca.
I doubt we'll see lower Outback VDC prices. Remember it comes with leather, Wasn't there also a rumor that the '06 VDC had the NAV standard? In any event, neither leather or NAV are available in the base level Tribeca.
Is from an Outback VDC to a 5 seat Tribeca Limited, so it has all the same equipment, including leather.
Tribeca is priced aggressively.
We'll have to see if they make NAV standard on the 06 OB VDC, but if so they'd still better not raise prices much if at all.
Has any bought any of these vehicles after comparing them closely?
I have taken a good look at Lexus, Infiniti, Nissan, BMW and after considering such things as: brand quality & reliability, price, features, fit & finish, performance, and style I chose the Subaru Tribeca.
Oh and I forgot to mention that is the coolest & most unique looking. Nothing is me too about this SUV.
gt2b9 Posts: 16We've taken nearly all of the aforementioned out for a test spin... our take is as follows. Volvo XC90, well appointed, drives like a boat, and is $42K, Toyota Highlander...One word BORING....Volkswagen Touareg, High expectations left us unfulfilled....BMW X5...Great Drive, Exceptional Styling, and 52K for the model we would buy, but the clincher was no third row.... Acura MDX, the vehicle we'd decided on the day before we discovered the Tribeca, Excellent driving, Spacious interior (Beats the Tribeca in this category) integrated rearview camera is a huge plus, but again $42K....All the things we need in an Uber Cool Subie for 36 and Change it was a no brainer!!
jeffmc Posts: 1,742It'll be interesting to see if the Subbie salespeople wind up selling Tribeca's to Outback owners instead of luring Pilot shoppers to the showroom.
For the most part, it seems like it would be Subaru's marketing firm, rather than the actual salespeople, that lure those Pilot shoppers into the showroom. Whether or not the salespeople steer them toward Outback or Tribeca once they're in the showroom... like you said, Steve, it'll be interesting. I'm an Outback owner, and tentatively would like to move up to a Tribeca.
Seems like folks in the general B9 Tribeca thread have mentioned considering switching from Honda & Mazda minivans, from Mercedes, BMW, Acura, and even Lexus SUVs, and from other Subarus, so I think Subaru's target is true, and they may even perhaps pull in a few more high-end customers than expected... those who aren't brand snobs, anyway.
I must admit the high-end Murano's features are VERY appealing, though I'd never buy one. I didn't realize they had that type of equipment available. Must be stealing from the Infiniti parts bin. Those are the features Subaru needs to incorporate, especially the high-end sound system, rear camera, telescoping wheel and memory seats/wheel. Perhaps we'll see these features on whatever LL Bean-type edition comes out next.
would be Subaru's marketing firm, rather than the actual salespeople, that lure those Pilot shoppers into the showroom
Excellent point. I killed my TV back in '99 and, what with popup blockers, etc. on my browsers, forgot about all that marketing stuff :-).
I haven't kept up with the Subaru B9 Tribeca (B9X) discussion but so far this discussion seems pretty heavily weighed with existing Subaru owners so I didn't know if any Honda or Nissan fans were on the radar.
It should help when some of them actually hit the roads too.
Steve, Host
"I forgot to mention that is the coolest & most unique looking."
Just playing devil's advocate, but that's what they were initially saying about the AMC Pacer too.
njswamplands Posts: 1,760
Fitz is coming out of the gates pretty aggressive on pricing - they range from high $29 to mid $33s. For $36k yours must have been really loaded up.
Congrats to both of you, by the way.
Did anyone ever call the Pacer cool? :surprise:
From someone who has driven a Q45 for the last three years the rear view camera is not so great. To be of value you to keep looking at it. Since a lot of others also need attention - much prefer an ultra sonic sound system which my dealer will have installed for me on my Tribeca.
Listening for the chirps leaves your eyes free use side mirrors and look for other hazards. Also, snow, dirt and darkness have no effect with ultra-sonic systems.
Another negative of the camera based system is you scare the crap out many drivers of the car you are backing up to because they think your not look at what your doing. You get honked at a lot.
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Pirates vs Milwaukee Brewers 8/24 PNC Park
The Brewers came to PNC Park for the first time time this season, and they are always an interesting draw.
This right here may be why the Pirates lost this game:
That is former Pirate Sid Bream. He slid in safe as an Atlanta Brave in 1992 to eliminate the Pirates, and the team has not had a winning season since. Bream was the celebrity bartender for the night, but many of the fans in the city booed him. Bream is a very nice guy, so I felt very bad for him that the fans treated him so terribly.
Now I will rewind to the game.
I was looking forward to this game all week. I have been working out non-stop all week and I was beyond ready to go. I started throwing outside, and I had a rhythm I had not felt all season. My throws were faster and more accurate than in recent memory and it was a great feeling.
I took that momentum inside where immediately I saw hitting drills. Luis Silverio was hitting balls to Travis Snyder. One was overhit and I gauged it. Against my body, I reached my glove up high and came up with a clean catch for ball #1. I gave Snider the ball back and he tossed it back in.
Ball number two came from Euclides Rojas. I saw ballhawks start to creep towards the front row, so I moved back to stand out and boom.
The Milwaukee Brewers were stingy during BP, but I managed to convince reliever Jim Henderson to throw me a ball, which I will take.
There was some uncertainty, as the other ballhawks thought John Axford was in left field, but that was not the case. I was not sure, so I did not say anything. It didn't matter much, because the guy got sent down the next day.
That was sadly it for Brewers BP.
Ball #4 would come before the game. Herbie Andrade did his toss the ball up so no one can reach it, but make it high enough to make it appear they can catch it gag. He saw me and threw it a bit higher so I could catch the ball. People appeared confused. The end.
Again the Pirates lost the game which stunk, but they let all of these clubs score first and playing catch up all of the time is not going to win you games.
I knew the next day there wouldn't be BP as there was team photofest. I had already eclipsed 100 straight games with a baseball, so I just embraced photofest wanting to talk to the players, so I went on the field and snapped some pictures. What I had forgotten from the night before, was that I needed to snag one baseball on this day to get 100 straight games with a baseball at your home ballpark. No pressure.
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Team Rocket's mechas usually refers to mechas used by Jessie, James and Meowth in one of their wild schemes. Throughout the anime, the Team Rocket trio have had many robots and machines. It is unknown how they get them, since they usually have little money, and how they are transported to the location it is to be used at. Most of the time, the robots fail and get destroyed, some even before getting a chance to be used. They first appeared in Pokémon Emergency! with the debut of Team Rocket's Balloon.
In the anime
Original series
|First Appearance
|Meowth Hot Air Balloon
|Pokémon Emergency!
|This balloon has often been Team Rocket's main mode of transportation. It can be given many attachments including rockets, vacuums, nets, fists and cages. The balloon has been changed on certain occasions as well. It was changed to other Pokémon, such as Wobbuffet or Gliscor, and even items, as in a Poké Ball. It appeared regularly until the Best Wishes series.
|The Water Flowers of Cerulean City
|Constructed of a stolen massive vacuum and a giant hose. Used to suck water and Pokémon from the pool at the Cerulean Gym.
|Flying Stadium
|Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village
|Has vacuums which suck Pokémon into the stadium and balloons that make it fly.
|Automatic-High-Speed-Super-Duper-Whatchamacallit (A.H.S.D.W.)
|Charmander – The Stray Pokémon
|Can drill holes that can be used for traps and is remote controlled.
|Gyarados Submarine
|Beauty and the Beach (Japan) Sparks Fly For Magnemite (Worldwide)
|Powered by pedaling, serves as underwater transportation, has many attachments such as wheels and arms, and is capable of launching missiles.
|Team R Helicopter
|Bye Bye Butterfree
|Just an ordinary helicopter marked with big red "R" sign in front. However, it has a pole that can be utilized to create a giant net. It was used again in Let Bagons Be Bagons! when it had a jet pack for Meowth to use.
|The Kangaskhan Kid
|The Giant Kangaskhan bot moves by controlling it from the car underneath it, and it has two rockets in the form of paws.
|The Legend of Dratini
|This mecha was used to tickle Kaiser by using a feather on his foot, to tell Team Rocket where Dratini was. It appeared again in A Marathon Rivalry! to massage and tickle Daniel's Snorlax, and to capture Ash's Pikachu.
|It's Mr. Mime Time
|Made of rubber, and has capture missiles with a cannon net inside. Also possessed live missiles.
|Lights, Camera, Quack-tion
|A giant claw crane used to grasp a bunch of Pokémon.
|All Fired Up!
|Has very good jumping abilities, was used to steal the flame of Moltres from Indigo Stadium.
|Team Rocket Dirigible
|A Scare in the Air
|A very old and rundown blimp that was used to capture Ash and Pikachu.
|Magikarp Submarine
|Fit to be Tide!
|Powered by pedaling, serves as underwater transportation, has arms that can be extended, and legs that can also be extended on land. Its weapons include nets (once to capture Cresselia) and extendable fists.
|Robotic Mole
|Charizard Chills
|Can dig underground and has a compartment for holding Pikachu.
|Pokémon Food Fight!
|Shoots a rocket out of its ear and releases a claw that can grab packages and Pokémon. The whiskers on the top of its head act as lightning rods, and its tail grounds absorbed electricity. It also releases small drills from its fingertips which have the power to destroy rocks.
|Pokémon Double Trouble
|It uses Jessie's Lickitung and Arbok to power up. It uses James's Weezing's Smog and Jessie's Arbok's Poison Sting to attack.
|Electrode Eliminator
|The Underground Round Up
|Has arms to pick up Electrode, and can make them explode.
|Team Rocket Automated Pep Squad
|The Double Trouble Header
|Robotic cheering squad that was used to encourage Casey and her team. They used trumpets and balloons, and cheered "Gotta catch 'em all!".
|The Real Hitting Machine of the Team Rocket Lineup
|Hitting Machine used to hit Pikachu and Chikorita towards Team Rocket.
|Pitching machines used to hit baseballs at Ash and his friends.
|Mechanical Pinsir
|A Sappy Ending
|Can suck sap from trees, it can also absorb electric attacks and send them out of its pincers.
|Anti-Stantler No.7
|The Little Big Horn
|Used to Lure and capture Stantler, it is numbered 7 after the first 6 prototypes.
|Snowball Launcher
|The Chikorita Rescue
|Worn like a backpack, it is used to throw snowballs.
|Tanks a Lot
|Has extendable arms, a giant spring on bottom, can drill through rock. Also contains superfluous gadgets included to add to the price tag, such as fireworks and a Pidgey cuckoo clock.
|Gigantic Mistake
|Charizard's Burning Ambitions
|Planned to use to catch Charizard in Charicific Valley, but was used to help Ash's Charizard prove its strength instead. It appears to be based on the Bug Catcher Trainer class.
|Recycle Rubber Robot
|Chikorita's Big Upset
|Giant robot constructed of tires and remotely controlled by Meowth, that was used to steal Ash's Chikorita and Pikachu
|Mecha Spinarak
|The Superhero Secret
|Giant mechanical Spinarak controlled by Meowth, that was used to try to unmask Gligarman.
|Meowth Bubblegum Bot
|Good 'Quil Hunting
|Shoots bubblegum from fingers.
|The Super Diglett Mark 2
|A Shadow of a Drought
|Used to dig a large hole in order to get Team Rocket some water.
|Torcher Scorcher
|The Fire-ing Squad
|Shoots fire out of hoses
|Fowl Play!
|Has air pumps for blowing gusts of wind, as well as a vacuum.
|Giant Gengar
|The Psychic Sidekicks!
|Has mirrors for eyes that reflect Psychic attacks, such as Psybeam, and it also has an extremely long tongue that grabs Pokémon.
|Barrel Robot
|A Dairy Tale Ending
|Can squash anything it rolls over, and has extendable arms, and a drill.
|Cyborg Meowth
|Air Time!
|(Radio show only.) It is the Team Rocket's Meowth that was converted into a cyborg. It can transform into a rocket.
|Win Mean Fight Meowth Machine
|Two Hits and a Miss
|It launches its boxing gloves to grab Pokémon.
|Robo-Mecha Wobbuffet
|Power Play!
|It uses an attack that has the same effect as Counter attack.
|Gust Attack Blowing Vac
|Mountain Time
|It has two powerful settings: 1) one that blows out, 2) one that is a super strong vacuum to suck everything right back.
|Win Mean Fight-the-Bite Meowth Machine
|The Trouble with Snubbull
|It uses its tail as bait to capture Madame Muchmoney's Granbull. It also has an electricshock on its tail. The gloves and tail can launch like rockets.
|Super Sucker
|The Apple Corp!
|It is used to suck Pokémon, Pikachu's electricity and apples, and it can also blow air.
|Eeveelution Cage
|Trouble's Brewing
|It has a specialized cage for the following Eeveelutions: a shock-proof cage for Jolteon, a bubbly cage for Vaporeon, a heat-resistant cage for Flareon, a cute cage for Eevee, and a stark white cage for Umbreon.
|Mega Murkrow Mark 5
|All That Glitters!
|It has a vacuum that sucks the Murkrow's shiny collections, and an extra powerful option that can blow you away. It also has a grabber inside its beak (to grab Pikachu).
|Blizzard Machine
|Moving Pictures
|Creates a Blizzard.
|Natural Rocket
|The Stolen Stones!
|It is a rocket used for transportation by Team Rocket.
|It is an extendible hand used for grabbing stuff and Pokémon, that can also absorb electricity.
|Poké Pod
|Wayward Wobbuffet
|It is used to trap Pikachu inside. James described it as "A device that can revolutionize Pokémon training" and as "A Pokémon transport device made-up of super tough plastic that is harder than diamonds. It's absolutely indestructible".
|A hot-air balloon with Wobbuffet design.
|Control Freak!
|Can dig tunnels in the ground, and has rockets.
|Robotic Bayleef
|Turning Over a New Bayleef
|Serves as transportation, but can use Vine Whip to pick up Pokémon from the ground.
|Rocking Rocket Trapeze
|Doin' What Comes Natu-rally
|Used by Jessie and James for them to grab Pokemon.
|The Screen Actor's Guilt
|Used to lure Smoochum and Togepi. It uses mega Tackle attack.
|Wobbuffet Rubber Life Raft
|Right On, Rhydon
|Inflatable for quick getaway.
|Pokémon 4Ever
|A glider used to follow Ash and his friends, it was destroyed when the wind caught it, causing it to crash.
|Mechanical Tentacruel
|The Joy of Water Pokémon
|Used mainly to capture Pikachu using its extendable tentacles.
|Mystery Missile
|Fight for the Light!
|It contains James' Weezing in it.
|A fan used as a rotor for the Meowth balloon.
|James' Super Bigger Net
|Around the Whirlpool
|A bazooka that sends out net. Used to catch Pikachu.
|It has three-propeler for additional hover support and a net for capturing Pokemon.
|Booster Rocket
|Fly Me to the Moon
|Used to boost the up stream of the Meowth Balloon.
|Capture Missile
|Takin' It on the Chinchou
|Used to capture the Chinchou with a net.
|Multiple Corsola Cable Snag
|A Corsola Caper!
|Has a multiple cable to catch multiple Corsola.
|Hi Ho Silver... Away!
|Attached to Meowth Balloon and used to suck all the jewelry from stores.
|The Mystery is History
|Used by Cassidy and Butch to lure Silver. It resembles a Lugia.
|Lugia Balloon
|A Parent Trapped!
|Inflatable, lures Lugia.
|Namba's Nasty Pokémon Provoker
|Invented by Prof. Namba for Cassidy and Butch. This machine will increase the rage of a Pokémon.
|Nerves of Steelix
|Camouflaged as a giant Wobbuffet statue. Serves as transportation.
|Bellossom Wrangler Robot
|Whichever Way the Wind Blows
|Possible ways to catch many Vileplume and Bellossom; however, they couldn't decide and they settled on a bag instead.
|Vileplume of Doom
|PikaPower Mach II
|As Clear as Crystal
|Drains electricity from any power source; unlocks and explodes when completely charged
|Hot Air Balloon Transformer Model
|Wish Upon a Star Shape
|A Robotic version of the Hot Air Balloon; it is shielded against electric attacks, also comes with a hyper-ventilated, carbon-calibrated cannon, and rear-seat cupholders.
|Mataminder Mach III
|Outrageous Fortunes
|Controls a Pokémon's every move.
|Robotic Politoed
|I Politoed Ya So!
|Paralyzes and grabs Pokémon with its tongue.
|Ice Cream Robots
|The Ice Cave
|Able to make ice cream and steal Pokémon.
|Robotic Crab
|Just Add Water
|Creates whirlpools and sucks in water with its claws.
|Robotic Building
|Johto Photo Finish
|Has wheels and arms to allow for movement and combat.
|Hoenn Alone!
|Could drain Pikachu's electricity, or overload him with power.
Advanced Generation series
|First Appearance
|Get the Show on the Road!
|Could drain Pikachu's electricity, and could shoot it back.
|Tree's a Crowd!
|Used to capture Treecko, including Ash's Treecko, and can also hit the opponent with the spade.
|The Lotad Lowdown!
|Used to capture Lotad including Brock's Lotad, it is vulnerable to Electric attacks.
|Robotic Wurmple
|Gonna Rule The School!
|Protected from electricity.
|Mechanized Mudkip Maiden
|A Mudkip Mission
|Carries shovels for digging, and it is very agile
|A Different Kind of Misty
|A Zapdos shaped Mecha that can absorb electricity. It also has several saws and grabbers attached to it .
|Vacuum car
|Watt's with Wattson?
|Sucks up Pokémon with vacuums. A purple version was used in Promoting Healthy Tangrowth!.
|Cacnea Bandit Mark 2
|What You Seed is What You Get
|Shoots bazookas and X's to block Pokémon's mouths. Picks up watermelons with its arms or a net bag. It can also "eat" watermelons and shoot their seeds at its opponent.
|Robotic Numel
|Game Winning Assist!
|Uses arms to grab Pokémon and places them in a compartment, and can also use the arms to "walk" along the ground
|Robo Spinda
|Going for a Spinda
|Has arms that come out of its mouth to grab Pokémon, and a compartment in its Belly to store them in. A mirror can come out of its belly to reflect Psychic attacks
|Hyper Kingler Alloy Z
|Evolutionary War
|Used to steal Huntail and Gorebyss. Can send out a net from its right claw and launch the left one.
|Solid as a Solrock
|Used to steal Solrock and Lunatone. Can send out two cages from its right hand, which can block all Psychic attacks from inside and every kind of attacks from outside. The mecha can also launch glue bombs from its mouth. Vulnerable to Thunderbolt and Psychic.
|Robo Diglett
|Beg, Burrow and Steal!
|Digs holes with drill, and can snatch Pokémon with a grabber.
|The Right Place and the Right Mime
|Has vacuum arms, is able to suck up Pokémon.
|Poké-Vac 5000
|A Real Cleffa-Hanger
|Has giant vacuums to suck up Pokémon, it is an upgraded version of Suck-Of-A-Punishment.
|Good At Grabbing Mucho Extres (G.A.G.M.E.)
|Numero Uno Articuno
|Is capable of flight, and has extendable grabbing hands for catching Pokémon. A green version was used in On Olden Pond.
|Hooked on Onix
|Has extendable arms that can be used to throw big rocks or grab targets, and has water cannons on its shoulders. It can also inflate a Chimecho-shaped balloon for flight. Vulnerable to Water and Electric-type attacks, as well as Iron Tail.
|Golem-Grabber Mark 2
|Reversing the Charges!
|Can launch a net from its mouth, it was used again in Trials and Adulations! where it was able to launch a rock rocket. Protected from electricity.
|The Green Guardian
|Used to steal Celebi.
|Potted Bonsai Boy Mark 1
|All That Glitters is Not Golden!
|Has super strength, it was used to steal a gold Sudowoodo.
|Robo Slaking
|Slaking Kong
|Used to steal and collect food.
Diamond & Pearl series
|First Appearance
|Super Sinnoh Slinger Mark 1A
|Two Degrees of Separation!
|This mecha is probably the strongest mecha yet. It is solar powered and can withstand any attack such as Pikachu's Volt Tackle and Thunderbolt, Dawn's Piplup's BubbleBeam, Aipom's Swift and Starly's Whirlwind. It has extendable arms, and unique extendable fingers. According to James this mecha can even make lunch.
|Robotic Rabble Rowser Mach III
|Setting the World on its Buneary
|Has extendable legs and claws, also has Pokémon containers, and rockets.
|You-Really-Can't-Take-It-With-You-Can't-Ya Mark 93
|A Staravia is Born!
|Has nets on its hands, and can be disguised as a house.
|Fossil Restoration Device
|Wild in the Streets
|Can unfossilize Pokémon, has net-rockets, treads.
|Ya See We Want an Evolution
|Was destroyed before being used.
|Aspear Rock 1
|Cooking Up a Sweet Story!
|Can launch extendable arms.
|Bouldermatic Mark 2
|Oh Do You Know the Poffin Plan!
|Can launch extendable arms and vacuums, and can also shoot out giant flower pots that trap the opponent.
|The Rise of Darkrai
|This Carnivine balloon was used to attack Ash, Brock, and Dawn as they traveled to Alamos Town in a hot air balloon.
|Potent Pink Jessie Princess Power Mark 1
|The Electrike Company!
|Can launch extendable arms, and can fly like a rocket.
|Sharpedo Jetski
|Sandshrew's Locker!
|Has a Magikarp Net Launcher, Carvanha torpedoes, and 3 Remoraid torpedoes
|Probopass Mind Manipulator
|Nosing 'Round the Mountain!
|A Device that can control a Probopass by making it use moves and controlling its three noses.
|Badda Bing Supreme Soaker No.6
|Hot Springing a Leak!
|Normally shouts the words "BADDA BOOM, BADDA BING". It can also shoot water from its hands and spill hot water from the tub.
|Rhyhorn Mecha
|Sleight of Sand!
|The head can open and fire out a mechanical arm. It can also use a move called "Horn Rocket" where it can stab the opponent, and fire its tail off like rocket.
|Slowbro Mecha
|This Mecha can open its mouth and hit the foe with its arms, and it can also use its own special move called "Tail Attack" where it can stab the foe with its tail, or it can fire it off like a rocket.
|Tone Deaf Mecha Chingling
|The Bells are Singing!
|Can sing rough notes and blow smoke.
|Croagunk Robot
|Cream of the Croagunk Crop!
|Has extendable tongue and arms to catch Pokémon. Its chest can open up to serve as a big container for caught Pokémon.
|Hungry for the Good Life!
|A flying Mecha that can let out a smokescreen, and the inside is full of holes and traps.
|Gliscor Bot
|Fighting Fear with Fear!
|A Gliscor balloon that could extend its tail to grab Pokémon. Its claws could open and launch like missiles to emulate X-Scissor, and its wings could spread open and perform an attack emulating Steel Wing.
|Arriving in Style!
|Can hover, has a retractable visor to cover the exposed cockpit, and can launch five extendable arms from each shoulder.
|Back-to-the-Basics Bohemian Flytrap
|A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine!
|It can transform from a car-like form. Its mouth can be used for storage and its arms and eyes can fire lasers. It is vulnerable to Electric attacks.
|Roly Poly Robot
|If the Scarf Fits, Wear It!
|This mecha rolls around a ball of Pokémon food (like a Stag Beetle) that can attract Pokémon such as Lickilicky. It can also fly and pick up rocks and kick them. It can even launch a rocket that fires out a rope.
|Super Sucker Mark 9
|A Trainer and Child Reunion!
|A device that is attached to the Meowth Balloon that can suck up Pokémon into a big container. It was used again in Frozen in Their Tracks! where it had a different nozzle and a net. Vulnerable to Signal Beams.
|Nightmare Maker
|Sleepless in Pre-Battle!
|This device sends out electromagnetic pulses that makes sleeping people have nightmares and blame it all on Darkrai.
|Ancient Family Matters!
|It can drill using its "head", and can also throw rocks and sand with its hands
|Earth Moving Monster Masher Mover 1
|Leading a Stray!
|Can transform from an excavator crane to a mecha. It uses it arms to slam into the opponent, and the hands can grab objects. Vulnerable to Water.
|Stealing the Conversation!
|It can shoot mechanical bowling pins out of its arms that explode upon impact. It also has extendable arms and legs.
|Noodles! Roamin' Off!
|This mecha was destroyed quickly by Pikachu using Thunderbolt, the only thing this mecha can do is jump great distances into the air.
|Stopped in the Name of Love!
|This mecha is as big as a building with many tiny rooms and vents, it can launch extendable arms that can make Pokémon dizzy. If hit by a Thunderbolt in the underarm the bolt can travel down the arm into a mechanical room and zap the captured friend. Legs appear for hasty getaways, it is vulnerable to water.
|Where No Togepi Has Gone Before!
|A rocket that has the trio's desires, it also has a dungeon, a lift, and a control system. It flew up to space where it got attacked by a wild Rayquaza, and crash landed back to earth. Vulnerable to Hyper Beams.
|Gone With the Windworks!
|Has a big cable, the head and body can become hot like lava. It can also launch a Zap Cannon called a Magcargo Cannon. Vulnerable to Thunderbolt.
|Digital Drapion
|Bagged Then Tagged!
|This mecha has extendable arms with sharp claws for digging underground, and a hatch on its head. The mouth can open and send the captured Pokémon down to the abdomen. It is vulnerable to flying attacks and can also release geysers. A computer system inside the head can check where it is going and detect where other life forms are, such as Monferno. It appears to be based on a Drapion's Shiny coloration.
|Digital Drapion decoy
|A mini mecha that is released from the big mecha above it can dig underground and self destruct.
|Pidgey Mark II
|Try for the Family Stone!
|This mecha can fly and is activated by Meowth's controls, and has a container in its stomach. It also has a fan which can blow opponents away, it can also launch 2 extendable arms from its stomach which has a broom to sweep opponents away. Its wing can fly off. Vulnerable to Electric and Flying attacks.
|A Meteroic Rise to Excellence
|This mecha looks like an Altaria and was used to captured Wilma's. It also has wheels and a compartment where Altaria was held, but got broke free with a combination of Altaria's Ice Beam and Flamethrower knocking the mecha on its side. Gible can also eat it.
|Blasto-Bot II
|Gotta Get a Gible!
|Was eaten by Gible, before it could do anything.
|Recycled Robo Blasto-Bot
|This mecha was made from recycled parts from the Blasto-Bot II, it can leap great distances, and can show its tongue. It has an Iron Fist to grab its foe, and a regular hand as well. Vulnerable to Thunderbolt and Iron Tail.
|Fighting Ire with Fire!
|This mecha has glass capsules capturing enemies. It comes out from Team Rocket's Balloon with extended arms for capturing Pokémon into a container. Weak against powerful Fire and Mach Punch attacks and strong against Protect.
|Keeping In Top Forme!
|This mecha looks like a Caterpie, can dig underground. The forehead can open to reveal Team Rocket. A gun in its mouth fires a sticky liquid similar to a String Shot, and also if ths mecha is nearly destroyed the body will crack open to reveal another mecha (below). It is strong against attacks like Energy Ball, Ice Beam, Rock Climb and Whirlpool.
|Blockbuster Butterfree
|This mecha looks and flys like a Butterfree. It comes out of the Meta-Caterpie (above). It can release a SolarBeam attack from the antennae on its head, and it is vulnerable against air attacks like Air Slash.
|Robo Diglett
|Pokémon Ranger: Heatran Rescue!
|The new and improved Diglett mecha, which is controlled by Meowth's controls. It can dig underground and can drill through rocks. It also has arms to picks things up with, extra arms for when they are destroyed. Three nets fire out from its body, and can also walk along walls. Vulnerable to powerful Eruption attacks.
|Aerial Ace Defense
|An Elite Coverup!
|This mecha is shaped like a Staraptor, and was used like a missile to defeat Ash's Staraptor.
|Guillotine Defense
|This mecha is shaped like a Gliscor, and was used like a missile to try to defeat Bertha's Gliscor, but it was defeated by a powerful Guillotine.
|Powering-up Parts
|This was armor fired out of Team Rocket's Balloon to make Jessie's Seviper stronger. It upped the strength of a Poison Tail, nearly defeating Ash's Buizel. It was defeated by Bertha's Golem's Rock Blast.
|Powering-up Parts
|This was armor fired out of Team Rocket's Balloon to make James's Carnivine stronger. It upped Carnivine's Vine Whip's strength, nearly defeating Dawn's Pachirisu. It was defeated by Bertha's Golem's Rock Blast.
|An Old Family Blend!
|This mecha was used when Team Rocket tried to steal Ash's Cyndaquil shortly before the beginning of the Lily of the Valley Conference. It had six hands holding different weapon, a net, a fly swatter, a plunger, scissors, tongs, and an empty hand. These hands could we switched to another six with even bigger arsenal, a drill, a chainsaw, a paint scraper, a paper fan, a drafting triangle, and a mallet. This mecha was able to withstand BubbleBeam, Water Gun, Hydro Pump (although it wasn't waterproof), Thunderbolt, and Flamethrower. Its arms were vulnerable to Razor Leaf and the mecha itself was vulnerable to Eruption.
|Zoroark: Master of Illusions
|This Yanmega balloon was used while following Ash, Brock, and Dawn as they traveled to Crown City.
Best Wishes series
|First Appearance
|Enter Iris and Axew!
|This suitcase shaped mecha could open up and extend a pair of arms to grab Pikachu and Axew.
|Hot-Air Balloon
|This mecha is more of an upgrade of the original hot air balloon.
|A Sandile Gusher of Change!
|This magnet crane was used to capture the leader Sandile.
|The Battle Club and Tepig's Choice!
|This bubble-shaped mecha was used to protect attacks as in Oshawott's Water Gun but fell to Tepig's Ember.
|Energy Excavating Robot
|Dreams by the Yard Full!
|This mecha can be used to harness the energy of dreams.
|The Dragon Master's Path!
|This flying mecha has three cable launchers that can be used to catch Pokémon, and pull them into the mecha's cargo hold. Vulnerable to Dragon Rage.
|Cottonee in Love!
|This mecha has a giant fan which can be used to blow Cottonee into a net bag(below). Vulnurable to Thunderbolt.
|The mecha has a giant net bag which is used to trap Cottonee. Protected from attacks such as Tranquill's Air Cutter, but was finally destroyed from inside when it got filled by the Cottonee's Cotton Spore.
|A UFO for Elgyem!
|This small machine sends out restraining energy bolts that can be used to tie its targets. Vulnerable to X-Scissor.
|This small machine looks like a briefcase. It sends out restraining energy bolts that can be used to tie its targets and trap them into a square energy field. Vulnerable to Dragon Rage and SolarBeam.
|This mecha is used for aerial transport. Vulnerable to Electro Ball.
|Roggenrola Cannon
|Gotta Catch A Roggenrola!
|This mecha can attach up to nineteen Roggenrola to itself and make them all to use their Flash Cannons at once, creating a powerful blast of energy. It has two extendable spiked clubs, that it used to create a cave in.
In the manga
In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga
|First Appearance
|You Gotta Have Friends
|This machine was used to capture a large group of Pikachu using a Poké Ball cannon. It can convert between plane and walker mode.
|I'm Your Venusaur
|This mecha was used to try stealing an ancient Venusaur.
|Days of Gloom and Glory
|These diving machines were used to look for treasure in a sunken city.
|Ash vs. Gary
|This Venusaur-shaped mecha was used stop Ash and Gary from capturing a giant Slowpoke. It has the ability to transform into a humanoid form. It is equipped with nets and a water gun.
|This Gyarados-shaped boat was used to capture a giant Slowpoke.


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2013 and earlier Toyota RAV4 Lease Questions
pianoman31 Posts: 3went to a Toyota dealership the other day and I inquired about leasing a RAV 4. My credit is very poor, in the 450s. This is what they offered me: 2012 RAV 4, base model with AWD, 3 year lease, 12k miles per year, 2 year Toyota Care (includes free oil change and tire rotations), $0 down payment - for $335/month. Considering my poor credit, is this a good lease offer?
blastphemy Posts: 34Hi, Car_man! What are the lease terms for a 2013 RAV4 EV here in Los Angeles, CA? I prefer three years and 15,000 miles. THANKS!
any idea what the mf and residual are on a 2012 rav4 limited - 10k miles and 36 months?
I was just told mf was .00001. Still trying to get residual?
dcf1955 Posts: 34Hi CarMan, could you provide the MF rate and Residual on a 2012 RAV4 Limited 4X4 V6 for a 2yr, 12k mi/yr as well as a 3yr, 12k mi/yr lease? I think the numbers are good thru Jan 7, correct? Thank you for your time.
matherfield Posts: 3Car man--what is the money factor and residual for the new 2013 RAV-4 XLE---also what is the typical---if there is such a thing---lease acquisition fee from Toyota Financial---my last lease, I think the dealer added some--I paid 695 and it has taken me three years to realize it--shame on me---thanks again--you are always very helpful
dpb67 Posts: 6Carman,
Can you please provide residual and mf for a 2012 Base v6 in NJ?
capdad Posts: 2Looking for prices paid, Money factor, Buy Rate, Residual, Any additional fees from Toyota on a 2013 Rav4
Thank you
This would be our first lease and I'm a bit nervous. Not sure if this is a good deal. Doesn't quite seem like it. This is for a 2013 Rav4 with FWD and no navigation.
Special color (Blizzard Pearl) $395
Floor Mats $225
Destination Charge $845
They are taking off $1,000. So purchase price would $27,475. We are trading in a vehicle and are a bit upside down (I know, not good) so we are having to carry over $1,300, making purchase price $29775.
Down Payment $0
Acquisition Fee $650 (factored into monthly payment)
Admin fee $89 (to be paid when we pick up car along with first month's pymt)
Taxes 8.3% (added into monthly payment)
Residual Value $17,016 (I believe 53%)
MF .00180 (this seems high to me but they said Toyota sets this. We have great
credit and this is the rate for super preferred)
Monthly payment $486
Can you please give me feedback. I just don't know if this is something we should pursue.
I forgot to mention this this is for the Limited version.
tti755 Posts: 1i think $ 486 is too much, u must get better deal, try to negotiate more with them. try different dealership also.
good luck
nickc3 Posts: 16I just got two quotes on a
In both cases - LIMITED, with no additonal options.
All rolled into payments. 36 Months/36K miles.
Two dealers -
in both cases, I think way too high.
I'm currently in a Limited for $299 (mind you...that was a steal as I got it during all that B.S. accelator nonsense and no one was touching toyotas).
But, if I can't get something in the mid 300 range, I'm getting an Acura RDX which can be had for about the same price ($460 for the 2WD).
forvictory Posts: 2This is my first lease. I paid total downpayment of $3073.00 (includes everything). My monthly is $265 for 39 months with 12k/year. It has a Navigation - floor/mats/cargo net.
Any thoughts..thanks
Hi Car_Man,
Can you please post the March residual and MF for a 2013 RAV4 Limited AWD for 12k miles/year?
Also, I assume there are no dealer incentives at the moment since this model is so new?
Hi Car_Man,
Can you please provide the March residual and MF for a 2013 RAV4 Limited AWD for 12k miles/year for Colorado (and 15k/yr if you have it available)?
Thanks in advance Car Man!
Hi Car_Man,
Can you please provide the March residual and MF for a 2013 RAV4 Limited AWD for 12k miles/year for Colorado (and 15k/yr if you have it available)?
Thanks in advance Car Man!
No love for the RAV4 Car_man??
Just in case anyone is wondering, in Colorado, the March residual and money factor for the 2013 base RAV4 Limited AWD model with no additional options are as follows:
Money Factor: .00180 for Tier 1+ credit
12k/yr: approximately 61%
15k/yr: approximately 59%
The residual value changes slightly when additional options such as Navigation/Entune are installed.
Hope this helps someone!
prezriv Posts: 9Hi Car_Man,
Can you please post the August residual and MF for a 2013 RAV4 Limited AWD for 12k miles/year?
busuncle Posts: 18I saw this yesterday.
My best recollection is a residual of 64 and a MF of .000181.
If that's not right on the money, it's very close. I was an interested observer.
bibberwibber Posts: 1I was offered 36 month lease for $244.00 per month and $5000 trade-in for my 2004 RAV 4.
Residual value is $17,500 after the 3 year lease expires. Does anyone know if this is a good deal? Thank you
orangeman99 Posts: 64Hi,
Does anybody know the residual and MF for NY area for a 2013 Limited AWD?
terri528 Posts: 1Is $340 a month on a 2013 XLE a good deal, with first payment down only and everything included?
ltbrown Posts: 6Just came home from the dealership with our brand new 2014 Rav 4 Limited... Sadly, I am feeling buyer's remorse but would GREATLY appreciate your thoughts on how we panned out...
Agreed upon value: $34,052
Acq. Fee -$650
Gross Capitalized Cost: $34,702
Gave us $6K towards trade-in
$399/month (includes tax) X 35 month lease
Your thoughts???
What happened to the Explorer?
What was the selling price, residual value and money factor?
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verdi942 Posts: 304Without actually running the numbers, I'd say $399/mo for a $34K car is not too bad, and it just points up the high transaction/lease prices taking place today. Enjoy your new ride!
What did you end up with? I'm new to leasing and am interested in same car but AWD.
I am looking to lease a 2013 limited rav4 AWD base model and am new to leasing. I kept asking them what the money factor but they wouldn't give me a straight answer. This is what they gave me-
Trade in Audi A6 2002 120,000 mil - $1500 ?!?! Seemed low
residual value is $17,000.
12k miles/yr. 3 yrs but he said roll first pmt in at signing so 35 mo lease (don't really understand what that means but when he drew it out he showed me paying 36 pmts)
msrp $30,225. $288/mo pmt incl all other fees x 36 or 35 months.
After reading some posts, I realized We never talked about a sell price or gross cap. Do I still need to negotiate those?
I went back with:
$200/mo incl all fees for 36 mo (I assume they make up the difference in the trade in value of the Audi)
15,000 miles/yr
Incl. cargo organizer and all weather mats
They said they would run numbers and get back w me.
I'm feeling nervous bc they're many factors I'm not familiar with and want to make sure my bases are covered.
Is what they offered reasonable and are my numbers a good deal AND are there other factors that I've left out and need to negotiate and/or lockdown?
Thank you!
I'm hoping to finish this tomorrow and move on...into my new car! But don't want buyer's remorse
Yes you can negotiate the selling price of the new car.
My co-host Kyfdx should be able to provide the base money factor - it is something that the dealer can markup for extra profit, which is why I suspect they have been reluctant to provide it.
The residual is set by the bank and cannot be modified.
Good luck! Let us know how it all turns out.
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g2369 Posts: 58Hi,
I'm looking for residuals and MF for a Rav4.
24 months and 36 months
15k miles per year.
Thank you! :shades:


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India's political pundits are not concerned about whether Narendra Modi gets a third full-term as the chief minister of Gujarat state – he probably will.
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Chapter 16: http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/21230/P345/
Chapter 17: http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/21230/P375/
Chapter 18: http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/21230/P390/
Volume 1.
Chapter 1.
A News Copter hovers above the burial site of Spiderman in New York. Almost everyone in the city is attending the Anniversary Funeral. Nearby, in a Diner, a news cast is being broadcasted on the TV.
News Caster: It's the Fifth Year Anniversary of the Death of New York's hero, Spiderman, also known as Peter Parker. The whole world knows of his heroics, and of his courage. He was only a teenager, and yet, he had the guts to stand up to the world, and say "˜Enough'. Yet, one fateful night on Peter Parker's Seventeenth Birthday, several evil men broke out from the Triskellion. These men were, Flint Marko a.k.a. Sandman, Raniero "˜Blackie' Drago a.k.a. The Vulture, Sergei Kravinoff a.k.a. Kraven the Hunter, Maxwell Dillon a.k.a. Electro, Doctor Otto Octavius, murdered later that night by The Green Goblin, a.k.a. Doctor Octopus, and Norman Osborn, the current CEO of Alchemax and a.k.a. the Green Goblin. After Otto was killed, Norman Osborn and the rest of the group made their way to Peter Parker's house. In a fit of rage after his Aunt was murdered, Peter went on a rampage. He successfully killed Electro, Vulture, Sandman, Kraven, and mortally wounded The Green Goblin. In his battle however, he was wounded, and after he took out Green Goblin, he died in the love of his life's arms"¦ Mary Jane Watson. We thank Spiderman for his services, and love him, for everything else he did. We go live to the scene now, our reporter Betty Brant is live on the scene. Betty?
Betty: Thanks Todd. We are streaming live footage of select people, selected by the mayor in fact, to speak in front of New York. Our next speaker Jethro Weaver is getting ready to speak now.
Betty gets out of the camera's view. A Caucasian teenager, lean, not really muscular, walks in front of Spiderman's statue. He has medium length hair, and a patch of facial hair on his chin. He has blue-green eyes, and is wearing a red t-shirt, and slightly faded jeans. He looks to be sixteen, maybe a little older. He coughs once.
Teenager: Ahem"¦
The Teenager fiddles with his hands. The Teenager has a rough English accent.
Teenager: My name is Jethro Weaver"¦
Several Civilians: Hi Jethro.
Jethro: And um"¦ when my parents moved here from England"¦ they left me in their house with a babysitter so they could celebrate their Anniversary. She was really irresponsible and left me all alone"¦
The civilians listen tentatively.
Jethro: And um"¦ I was ten at the time, and I wasn't very capable of being on my own just yet. I just watched TV, and before I knew it, the cigarette that my babysitter threw on the carpet on her way out"¦ caused a big fire"¦
Several civilians gasp.
Jethro: I was freaking out, I didn't know what to do"¦ I was really just"¦ all alone and scared then"¦
The Civilians look at him with pity.
Jethro: And then"¦ like a Guardian Angel, Spiderman broke through the glass of our biggest window.
The Civilians are listening tentatively.
Jethro: And"¦ he grabbed me, and in less than a second"¦ I was out the door, and saved.
The Civilians smile.
Jethro: I would have died if he wasn't there for me. So"¦ I hope you feel the same way I feel about him"¦ that he is a Saint.
The Civilians nod.
Jethro: So"¦ that's all I have to say today. I hope you took what you needed away from this short story. Thanks.
Jethro slightly waves and walks off, and back into the ground. Many of the Civilians clap and cheer for him.
Betty: JETHRO! Jethro!
Betty chases after Jethro with an extra cameraman. He has a grey jacket on.
Jethro: Eh?
Betty: Jethro! How do you feel about speaking in front of most of New York?
Jethro: Not too badly, I'm only broadcasted on one station, and there was another speaker stealing the spotlight, so I'm okay/
Betty: So you don't like attention?
Jethro: No. Not really.
Betty: Jethro, Jethro! What about your parents? Where are they now?
Jethro's face turns to one of hurt and sadness, but he tries to conceal it.
Jethro: No comment"¦
Jethro walks away from Betty, leaving her and the cameraman speechless.
Jethro: Ugh.
Jethro walks down the street.
Jethro: Some people these days"¦ so nosy.
Jethro sighs and continues to walk.
Jethro: Ah, finally, the Corner-Street Diner.
Jethro walks in through the door. A lively diner sits in front of him.
Jethro: Ah"¦
Jethro sits down at the counter.
Jethro: A home away from home.
An African American woman, looking to be in her mid-thirties walks over to Jethro. Almost runs. She is very beautiful.
Woman: Jethro! Hun!
The Woman hugs Jethro. He reads her name tag and smiles. It reads, Jennifer Williams.
Jethro: Heh. Hey mom.
Jennifer: I saw you on the news! You were so great!
Jethro: Heh. Thanks Mom.
Jennifer: I bet your real Mom and Dad would be proud of ya Hun.
Jethro smiles.
Jethro: You are my real Mom.
Jennifer smiles, her eyes well up with tears.
Jennifer: Aw come here.
Jennifer hugs Jethro.
Jethro: And I know what you mean. My biological Mother and Father.
Jennifer: Yes.
Jethro: Yeah"¦
Jethro looks at the counter as she breaks the hug.
Jethro: I wish I spent more time with them.
Jennifer: Aw Hun, you were young.
Jethro: Yeah.
Jethro remembers the screams of his father, sister, and mother.
Jethro: Yeah I was"¦
Jethro shakes his head, but the screams still echo in his mind.
To Be Continued"
Volume 1.
Chapter 2.
The sun shines in through Jethro's window and onto his face. Shortly after, the alarm clock on his nightstand blares. He is asleep in his bed, and in his room. A nightstand sits next to his bed. A desk with a computer and several notebooks and papers sprawled across it. A carpeted floor, a door to a bathroom, a window, and a closet are the only other things in the room.
Jethro: Unnnh?
Jethro lifts his head off of his pillow to see the sunlight and alarm ringing. He sighs.
Jethro: Why couldn't I be sick?
Jethro swings his legs over the bed and onto the floor.
Jethro: Hhh!!
Jethro pushes himself off of the bed revealing his full form. He is quite lean and skinny. His tank top is baggy, and his boxers threaten to fall off.
Jethro: Hrrrmmmm"¦
Jethro goes into the bathroom and turns on the water.
Jethro: Hooooo"¦
He yawns once, strips off his clothing and gets into the shower.
Jethro: Dooo dooo ohhhh yeaaahhh.
In a couple of minutes, Jethro gets out of the shower, and gets dressed. He is wearing a purple striped long sleeved shirt, jeans, and fingerless gloves. His brown hair looked black since it was wet, and so did his small goatee.
Jethro: Uhhh"¦
Jethro gets on his computer.
Jethro: Gotta check my face book"¦
Jethro taps on the computer, and a white and blue screen pops up. He checks his messages.
Jethro: Huh?
Jethro sees a friend request from Cassandra Sandsmark.
Jethro: Cassandra? The hottes-I mean the most popular girl on campus is befriending me on Facebook?
Jethro sighs.
Jethro: She probably is just getting a Facebook and is just befriending everyone in school.
Jethro shrugs and accepts it.
Jethro: What was I thinking? Hotty befriending me"¦ the lonely"¦
Jethro shoves his phone into his pocket.
Jethro: Unkempt"¦
Jethro grabs his backpack.
Jethro: Unattractive"¦
Jethro walks out of his room and down the stairs. Apparently he lives on the upper floor of the diner his mother owns.
Jethro: Weird-Ass writer.
Jennifer turns to Jethro, setting his breakfast on the counter of the Diner.
Jennifer: Who ya talking about Hun?
Jake: No one Mom.
Jennifer: Ah okay.
Jethro sits down at the counter, takes his knife and fork and starts to eat. A tan Caucasian man walks from the kitchen. He is slightly lean and muscular. Jethro looks at his name tag and smiles. It reads, Mark Williams.
Jethro: Hey Dad.
Mark smiles.
Mark: Heya Jeth.
Mark leans on the counter, kissing Jennifer's cheek. She blushes.
Mark: I still can't believe how well you did yesterday!
Mark attacks Jethro in a hug.
Jethro: It's"¦ ighnn"¦ cool Dad.
Mark steps back.
Mark: Well eat quickly, you need to get to school.
Jethro: Yeah. I will Dad.
Jethro eats his food and stands up.
Jethro: I'm done. Thanks Mom! Thanks Dad!
Mark: You get A's ya hear?
Jethro: Always do.
Jethro puts his plate in the kitchen before sprinting out of the door.
Mark: That boy"¦
Mark puts his arm around Jennifer.
Mark: He's gonna make us proud one day Jen.
Jennifer smiles.
Jennifer: I know he will.
To Be Continued"
Volume 1.
Chapter 3.
Jethro takes out his coat from his locker, and puts it on.
Jethro: Field Trip to the Museum"¦ wondrous"¦
Jethro sighs and slams his locker shut.
Jethro: Hm?
Jethro looks at the front of his locker. A note is attached.
Jethro: Huh, what's this?
Jethro shrugs and takes the note. He opens it up.
Jethro: Ooohhh boy"¦
The letter reads as followed, Hey Feral, Your skinny ass caused my girlfriend to break up with me! During the field trip, in our break, you're mine Feral. ~Ray.
Jethro: Ehhhhhhh"¦
Jethro bangs his head against the locker.
Jethro: Greeeaaaaattt"¦ a psycho who's convinced I caused Cassandra to break up with him is gonna kill me"¦ isn't that great?
Jethro sighs and walks down the hall.
Jethro takes a seat on the bus. He sees a teenager, not much bigger than him, lean, but every inch of his lean body is muscle. He has light brown hair, and his eyes gleam anger.
Jethro: Oh god it's Ray"¦ please don't sit by me, PLEASE don't sit by me"¦
Ray smirks and is about to take a seat next to Jethro, when a girl sees him coming and takes a seat next to Jethro. Ray puffs and continues walking.
Jethro: Uh thanks"¦
Jethro gets a good look at the girl. At first, all he notices are her piercing blue eyes, black v-neck shirt where the collar ends just before her shapely breasts, and skinny jeans. Then Jethro takes a closer look. She has perfect shoulders, her body is slender and muscular, yet she looks very feminine. Her bangs are dyed snow white while the rest of her hair is pitch black. Her face is joyful and cheery, almost as if she could crack a hilarious joke any second. She smiles slightly, looking down at her jeans and moving a hair out of her eye.
Girl: Claire.
Jethro: When did we get someone this hot at school-er"¦ um-Oh! Uh my name is Jethro.
Claire smiles.
Claire: Jethro. Interesting name, never heard of anything like that.
Jethro: Yeah my parents were"¦
Jethro hesitates about telling Claire his secret about his parents.
Jethro:-Are peculiar.
Claire: I'll bet.
The bus speeds down the road.
Claire: So Jethro, I saw you on the news the other day.
Jethro: Oh you did?
Claire: Yeah. Spiderman was a good guy wasn't he?
Jethro: Y-Yeah"¦ he was.
Claire: You're alright Jethro.
Jethro: Thanks.
Jethro smiles.
Jethro: A girl taking an interest in me? Damn"¦ I hope this dream doesn't end.
The bus takes a left.
Claire: So, Jethro, you into spiders?
Jethro: They're okay I guess. Nothing wrong with them.
Claire smiles and covers up a blush.
Claire: Most people think Spiders are hairy and yucky. You're the first person I've met in that dump of a school who hasn't completely shot down the idea of spiders
Jethro: Uh"¦ cool?
Claire sits back in her chair.
Claire: I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship Jethro.
Jethro: Uhhhhhh"¦ are you always this straight forward?
Claire: Usually. I find it refreshing.
Jethro shrugs.
Jethro: It is a nice change isn't it?
Claire: Well Jethro, I am gonna doze off for a sec.
Jethro: Uh oka-
Claire was already asleep.
Jethro: Ehehe"¦
Jethro smiles at Claire.
Jethro: Okay"¦
Jethro looks out the window.
Jethro: This day seems like it's going to be a good day"¦
Jethro raises his eyebrow at the thought of Ray.
Jethro: I hope"¦
To Be Continued"
Volume 1.
Chapter 4.
Jethro and Claire walk off the bus.
Claire: Well, I gotta get to my group.
Claire smiles.
Claire: Just remember Goat, you owe me one for taking a seat next to him.
Jethro: Goat? Why go-Oh! My goatee"¦ clever.
Claire giggles and waves bye to him before running off to her group.
Jethro: Great"¦ my new nickname is Goat"¦
Jethro rolls his eyes.
Jethro: Wait"¦ wasn't Ray just sitting a couple seats ba-
Suddenly, two hands shove into Jethro's shoulder. He topples to the sidewalk.
Jethro: GAH!
Jethro lands on the pavement.
Jethro: What the hell man!?!
Ray laughs as Mrs. Tollie grabs Jethro and pulls him up.
Mrs. Tollie: What did you just say young man?
Jethro: Oh come on!! He just shoved me!
Mrs. Tollie turns to Ray.
Mrs. Tollie: Is this true Mr. Connor?
Ray: Me? Shove him?
Ray laughs and puts his arm around Jethro as if they have been friends for years.
Ray: Maybe accidentally, but never on purpose Ma'am.
Mrs. Tollie smiles.
Mrs. Tollie: See Mr. Weaver? It was just a misunderstanding is all.
Jethro: I am going to kill you for this Ray"¦
Mrs. Tollie: Now run along Mr. Weaver, Mr. Connor.
Mrs. Tollie walks to the front of Ray's and Jethro's group.
Ray: Come on"¦
Ray shoves Jethro forward, but not hard enough so he bumps into anyone or falls over.
Ray: "Buddy"
Ray laughs before pushing past Jethro.
Jethro: Keep mouthing it off douche.
Jethro sighs and walks into the group.
Jethro walks in a group. His teacher, Mrs. Tollie leads the group.
Mrs. Tollie: Ah!
Mrs. Tollie smiles and gestures to a statue about half the size of her. It's top half is a woman with her right hand on her left shoulder, and her left hand on her right shoulder. She has a hood on that connects to something resembling a Gi. But from the waist down, the legs and lower body of a spider took it's place.
Mrs. Tollie: Here, class, we have the statue of Arachne, the Goddess of Spiders.
Jethro looks at the statue, and for a second, a flicker of an aura of blood surrounds the statue.
Jethro: Uh"¦
Mrs. Tollie: You have something to say Mr. Weaver?
Jethro: Yeah, that spider statue just glowed red with blood. Might wanna check that out.
Jethro shakes his head.
Jethro: No Mrs. Tollie.
Mrs. Tollie: Very well then.
Mrs. Tollie turns back to the statue.
Mrs. Tollie: This statue represents Arachne's curse. In Greek Legends, Arachne was an amazing spinster, better than anyone in the entire world. This angered Athena, The Goddess of Wisdom, when mortals and Gods alike claimed that Arachne was even better at weaving than Athena"¦
Jethro looks into the eyes of the statue and feels strangely drawn to it.
Jethro: Your time will come soon Jethro Weaver. Soo-WOAH! Where did that come from? I'm pretty sure I don't think in a woman's voice"¦ right?
Jethro shakes his head and continues to listen.
Mrs. Tollie: Athena, in a fit of rage, destroyed all of Arachne's equipment and life's work. When Arachne came back to her workshop, she was shocked to see everything was destroyed. In grief and utter sadness, Arachne stabbed herself.
Jethro almost winced.
Mrs. Tollie: When Athena saw the dying Arachne, she took pity on her, and tried to make up for her mistake"¦ by turning her into the first Spider so she could forever spin her web.
Jethro looks at the statue again.
Mrs. Tollie: Legend has it, that this statue has the inheritance of Arachne inside of it. But no tool on Earth has been able to break it. So it sits here, waiting for the heir to Arachne's curse to stumble upon it.
Mrs. Tollie pauses for dramatic effect. Jethro gulps. Mrs. Tollie suddenly breaks the deadly silence with a laugh.
Mrs. Tollie: But those are just stories class.
The class laughs slightly.
Mrs. Tollie: Come on, we have much more to see.
The group walks off with Mrs. Tollie, leaving Jethro to stare at the statue.
Jethro: Claim your birthright my heir. Claim it.
Jethro shakes his head.
Jethro: Okay, no more mid-night leftovers for you Jethro.
Jethro shakes his head before walking off to catch up with the group.
Arachne Statue: Sooooooooonnn"¦
The Statue's eyes flicker red.
To Be Continued"
Volume 1.
Chapter 5.
Jethro stands in the Greek Artifact Section of the Museum.
Jethro: Come on you lazy stuck up little bitch. Come on then.
Almost if on cue, Ray bursts into the museum, a crowd of students follow him. A beautiful blonde woman tries to stop Ray from going any further.
Jethro: Little late Cassandra.
The woman begs and pleads, but eventually Ray just shoves her into his friends.
Ray: Hello Feral.
Jethro stays silent.
Ray: Oh alright then.
Students: FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Ray smirks at the chanting crowd.
Ray: Well , sorry about this "buddy" but I give the people what they want.
Ray hooks Jethro once.
Jethro: Jesus Christ!! Was I just hit by a car? In the face?
Jethro stumbles backwards.
Ray: Aw Feral is done already?
Jethro slams against the museum wall and falls back onto the hard tiled floor.
Jethro: Oww.
Jethro pushes himself to his feet.
Cassandra: KNOCK HIS BRAINS OUT JETHRO!!!
Ray and many students turn to Cassandra.
Cassandra: Hey"¦ I'm just saying.
Jethro: Your request has been granted!
Ray: Eh?
Ray turns around to Jethro's fist slamming into his face. Ray falls to the floor.
Jethro: Oh"¦ I did it"¦
Claire: GO GOAT!!
Jethro turns to see Claire cheering for him. He smiles only to feel a fist slam into his gut.
Jethro: OOF!
Jethro stumbles backwards once more. He turns at the last second and falls. His face falls into the breasts of a girl. Jethro stands up to see the girl fully. She is utterly beautiful. She has black hair, a flawless face, and a body like he has never seen. She is wearing a blue t-shirt, and jeans. Her museum nametag says, Hi, I'm a Student at Midtown High, and my name is Janessa.
Jethro: Well hello the-
Janessa slaps Jethro which causes him to turn right into Ray's fist.
Jethro AAOOW!
Jethro falls to the ground.
Jethro: Oh"¦gaahhh"¦
Ray: Oh we're not done yet Sunshine.
Ray grabs the ankle of Jethro and drags him to the middle of the circle.
Jethro: Oh please, have mercy!!
Ray smirks and stomps on Jethro's chest several times.
Jethro: HCHPUH!
Jethro spits blood straight into Ray's face.
Jethro: Oh"¦
Jethro smirks and grabs Ray's feet. He pulls them out from under him.
Ray: AGH!
Ray's head slams against the floor. Jethro scrambles to his feet.
Jethro: HAH!
Jethro points at Ray who is getting up.
Ray: Oh you're dead now!
Ray hooks Jethro twice, and then uppercuts him in the chest. Ray hooks Jethro again, causing Jethro to spin around, his back facing Ray. Ray grabs Jethro's shoulders and knees his back. Jethro groggily turns around, only for Ray's fist to slam into Jethro's face.
Jethro: AAGHHUCH!
Jethro spurts blood in Ray's face again, temporarily stunning him. Jethro stumbles back behind the Arachne statue. Suddenly, a small piece of the Statue breaks off, and a mist flows out of the hole.
Jethro: Unnghhh"¦
The mist enters Jethro's pores, nose, and mouth.
Jethro: Wh-Wha"¦?
Claire: JETHRO!
Claire runs over to Jethro.
Claire: Are you okay!?!
Jethro: Y-yeah"¦ I'm good.
Jethro shakes his head and tries to get to his feet.
Jethro: Better"¦ I think.
Claire: Woaaahhhhhh"¦
Jethro is still lean, but now he is all muscle. He is almost an inch taller.
To Be Continued"
Volume 1.
Chapter 6.
Jethro gets to his feet.
Jethro: Eehnnn"¦
Jethro grabs his head with one hand, seeing a vision of a woman with a brown trench-coat, light brown hair, sunglasses, black boots, and black gloves.
Woman: My heirrrrr"¦
Jethro: Unnnghhh"¦
Jethro shakes his head and gets back into the circle.
Ray: Coming back for more?
Ray smirks.
Ray: Alright then"¦
Ray pulls his fist back and lets it fly.
Ray: "Buddy"
Jethro: Air currents"¦
Jethro easily dodges the punch.
Jethro: Woahhh"¦
Jethro grabs his head with his left hand, seeing another vision of the woman.
Woman: All opponents shall tremble against your might.
Jethro shakes his head.
Ray: Heh, lucky dodge.
Jethro: Yeah just keep telling yourself that.
Jethro looks around, sensing air currents for fast moving objects in a fifty feet radius all around.
Jethro: What the hell?
Jethro grabs both sides of his head. Another vision of the woman.
Woman: Defeat your opponents my heir. Squish them like the insects they are.
Jethro shakes his head again, cutting the vision off.
Jethro: Eh?
On instinct, Jethro dodges another punch, barely even seeing Ray pull the punch.
Jethro: HEY! I'm thinking here!!
Jethro, without even hearing or seeing the punch, blocks it.
Jethro: You just don't know when to quit do you?
Ray: AAGGHH!
Ray tries to tackle Jethro, but he side-steps out of the way.
Jethro: Huh"¦ were you always this sloppy?
Ray: I'll teach you to call me sloppy!!
Ray attempts to hook Jethro.
Jethro: No"¦ no"¦ no.
Jethro grabs the fist.
Ray: The hell"¦?
Jethro: Trust me I am just as surprised as you.
Cassandra: Huh?
Claire: Knew he had it in him.
Janessa: Hmph.
Jethro: I think it's my turn"¦
Jethro smirks.
Jethro: "Buddy"
Jethro knees Ray twice in the stomach before punching Ray.
Cassandra: Now where did that come from"¦?
Jethro: Where the hell did this come from!??!
Jethro uses one foot to spin him around, and kick him on the top of his head, so he bounces upward and onto the floor.
Jethro: W-W-W-Woaaaahhhh"¦
Ray: Nnnnh"¦
Every student is dead silent. Jethro turns so his back is to Ray.
Jethro: Ummm"¦ Ta-da? I win?
Ray: Not even close jerk ass!
Jethro: Hm?
Jethro senses fast air currents behind him. He jumps over a foot, trying to sweep his legs out from under him. He lands behind Ray.
Jethro: Heheh.
Ray: Come "˜ere so I can break your face!!
Jethro: Break your face? Really?"¦
Jethro spins around.
Jethro: No one I'm "buddies" with would ever say something that stupid.
Jethro drives his foot into Ray. He is blown back, and crashes face-first into a display case.
Jethro: Oh crap!!
Jethro runs over to Ray, as do several students.
Jethro Ohhh no.
Jethro turns Ray over.
Ray: MY EYES!!
Ray has glass shards stabbing into his eyes.
Ray: AAAAAGGHHH!!
Jethro: Oh god Ray.
Jethro stands up, every student is looking at him.
Jethro: I"¦ I-I"¦
Student: Mutant freak"¦
Cassandra: Jerk.
Jethro: I didn't mean!! GAH!!
Jethro sprints out of the museum and down the street.
To Be Continued in Volume 2...
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Ethics in the Workplace
Sometimes work can throw you an ethical challenge, and the right and wrong of it are not always black and white. That's when you have to step back and do some non-engineering thinking.
A little while ago I had to deal with a work-related ethics issue. I am going to leave out the details, but I thought it was worth sharing the general case with you and to see what other types of issues you have to go through as part of your modern-day work environment.
As background, I have done quite a lot of work in the area of patents over the past 15 years, as an author and as an assessor, I have worked with legal teams to both prosecute and defend patents, I have helped create patent strategies, and I have been an expert witness. So I do get asked to do various patent-related things as part of my consulting business.
A couple of months ago I was approached by a lawyer representing a non-practicing entity (NPE) -- something that is sometimes labeled a patent troll. These companies buy patents with the intention of suing other companies. In some cases these companies are less than ethical in that they will go after innocent companies and propose a settlement that is less than it would cost the targeted company to hire a lawyer and defend its position. It is cheaper to pay than to fight even if they are not guilty of infringement.
Anyway, what these NPEs are willing to pay for patents depends on what they think is the likelihood of a pay-out and its size, and so a lawyer commissioned me to assess the validity of a couple of patents and the likelihood that the company he represented would be able to sue certain specified companies on the grounds of patent infringement.
The patents were originally granted to very respectable companies, and I am sure the originating companies were just trying to monetize the intellectual property portfolios they had -- especially those patents that were no longer in their primary areas of business. In this respect, the sale of those patents would be helping one set of companies.
But what about the companies the NPE wished to sue?
The NPE would not do this unless it thought it could extract more from them than they were paying for the patents. It had clearly defined large companies as targets and products that it believed might infringe, so this was, dare I say it, an ethical troll.
A number of questions crossed my mind. First, do I want to do business with anyone I do not have the highest moral regard for? Second, if I do accept the assignment, do I give an honest opinion? I could stick it to the lawyer by saying the patents have lots of value and thus cause the NPE to lose money. Or, I could go the other way and tell the lawyer they have no value and thus stop the NPE from buying the patents in the first place. Of course, if it was ever discovered that I had done either of these things it would destroy my credibility.
I did take the job, and it turned out to be an easy assignment because it was very easy to show how the patents would have no validity against the products the NPE wanted to target, therefore placing a low value on the patents in general. I felt I had done my job well, but I still wonder if I did the job for an ethical company.
When I had completed my assessment I offered to send in a report. The lawyer declined. He only wanted to hear my findings verbally so that there was less evidence or paper trail. I am still not sure if I made the right choice.
Interestingly enough, we never established a rate for my services before I started this work. I sent in an invoice and it got paid.
What ethical issues do you face in your jobs as engineers today? No specifics necessary, and if you want to send stuff to me for anonymous responses that is fine.
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Breath Alcohol
If your organization seeks to reduce workplace-related accidents, breath alcohol screening that identifies potentially impaired behavior is available from ARCpoint Labs of Limerick. We offer organizational breath alcohol screening, which is also available to DOT-regulated companies.
How We Screen Breath Alcohol Levels
ARCpoint Labs of Limerick uses BAT screening tests that are DOT-approved. Prior to screening, each device is fitted with a disposable mouthpiece. The person being tested — who experiences no discomfort in this process — is then asked to blow into the device mouthpiece, and the blood alcohol percentage of the exhaled air is immediately tested. We monitor air blank and external calibration on each device to ensure accurate results are produced; results are DOT approved.
How Does Alcohol Affect the Workplace?
Consuming alcohol introduces alcohol into the bloodstream, raising the percentage of alcohol in their blood. This measure is known as blood-alcohol level, When a worker's blood-alcohol level is elevated, it can impair their ability to work effectively and safely.
The effects of blood-alcohol levels cover a spectrum. At the low end, e.g. 0.02 – 0.03%, a person experiences the sensation of relaxing. By the time a person's blood-alcohol level reaches 0.05 to 0.10%, muscle coordination is compromised. Reaction time slows as well, and the person's judgment is impaired. The negative effects on coordination, reaction time and judgment have serious implications for jobs that require a person to drive and/or operate machinery. Legal intoxication thresholds vary from state to state, but a 0.08% blood-alcohol level is a standard benchmark for intoxication. A blood-alcohol breath test will accurately reflect the current percentage of alcohol in a person's system.
Elevated alcohol levels, hangover symptoms and long-term alcohol dependence can lead to these and other complications:
- Compromised staff safety
- Jeopardized workplace efficiency
- Greater potential for mistakes, judgement errors and accidents
- Reduced attendance
- Lower quality performance
- Inability to concentrate, resulting in slower performance
- Health problems related to social and psychological well being
- Higher risk of medical problems associated with alcohol
- Greater risk of workplace disharmony
ARCpoint Labs' of Limerick reliable methods for testing, screening and detection ensure we meet the most stringent guidelines for breathalyzer alcohol testing.
DOT-Approved Breath Alcohol Testing
Testing regulations specified by the DOT require that:
- Only NHTSA-approved evidential breathalyzer (EBT) drug and alcohol testing devices be used
- Approved devices must also be operated by trained breath alcohol technicians (BAT)
ARCpoint Labs of Limerick meets both standards: Only BAT-certified technicians operate NHTSA-approved equipment for our DOT alcohol tests.
Call your local ARCpoint Labs of Limerick for additional information related to DOT alcohol screening.
Breath Alcohol Testing – ARCpoint Labs of Limerick
Accurate. Reliable. Confidential Testing.


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House Speaker Davy Carter announced he was backing the so-called private option that Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe has urged the Republican-controlled Legislature to support. Senate President Michael Lamoureux later said he also supports the proposal.
"I think the members here have taken what arguably was a terrible hand of cards that has been dealt to us by the federal government, and they've taken the hand and turned it into what I think is something good for Arkansas, good for our citizens," Carter, R-Cabot, told reporters during his daily news conference.
Beebe in February announced that the federal government had given the state permission to adopt the private insurance approach rather than expanding Medicaid's enrollment. Under the private option proposal, low-income citizens — those who make up to 138 percent of the poverty line, which amounts to $15,415 per year — would receive private insurance purchased using federal Medicaid dollars. The insurance would be purchased through the exchange created under the federal health care law.
Lamoureux echoed Carter's comments backing the private option.
"From the overall state perspective, it's a good compromise to try and get us out of here," said Lamoureux, R-Russellville.
The backing of the legislative leaders is the latest sign that the insurance expansion is gaining favor among Republicans, who won control of the Legislature last year partly based on opposition to the federal health care law. The state Chamber of Commerce last week said it was endorsing the private option approach as well.
The proposal will ultimately require a three-fourths vote from the House and Senate.
The insurance proposal has been tied to discussion about tax cuts as lawmakers try to wrap up this year's session by a self-imposed April 19 deadline. Beebe has said the savings from the expansion could pay for some of the tax cuts Republican lawmakers are pushing for this year.
Carter and Lamoureux also said they were opposed to a suggestion by the top Republican in the House that the Legislature delay final approval of the insurance proposal until next year. Rep. Bruce Westerman, the House majority leader, suggested lawmakers take up the enabling legislation for expanding health coverage, but push back its effective date from Jan. 1, 2014, to July 1 of that year. Westerman says that would allow lawmakers to vote on the budget bill needed for the "private option" insurance model during next year's legislative session.
"This would give us more time to get the plan established, to prove it, to vet it in the public eye and to make sure that it's the right thing for Arkansas going forward," said Westerman, R-Hot Springs.
Beebe also said he was opposed to that approach, saying it would mean the state would miss out on some of the federal funding for the insurance coverage.


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'Lincoln' leads Oscar nominations
10 Jan 2013 17:02 | Reuters
Joining Lincoln on Thursday in the competition for the best movie Oscar were eight films - shipwreck tale Life of Pi with 11 nods, musical Les Misérables, Iran hostage drama Argo, French language drama Amour, Osama bin Laden thriller Zero Dark Thirty, comedy Silver Linings Playbook, Quentin Tarantino's Django Unchained, and mythological film Beasts of the Southern Wild.
The Oscars are given out by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and this year's winners will be named at a ceremony in Hollywood on February 26.
Best acting nominations went to Daniel Day-Lewis for his performance as US President Abraham Lincoln, Hugh Jackman for Les Misérables, Jessica Chastain for her role as a CIA agent in Zero Dark Thirty and Jennifer Lawrence for playing a young widow in Silver Linings Playbook.
In a list with few major surprises, Lincoln also picked up nods for director Steven Spielberg, and supporting actors Sally Field and Tommy Lee Jones, as well as best adapted screenplay and costumes.
Missing out
James Bond film Skyfall won five nominations, including best original song and cinematography, but the British secret agent movie missed out on a coveted best picture mention.
The screen adaption of musical Les Misérables got eight nominations, including best supporting actress for Anne Hathaway as tragic heroine Fantine. But director Tom Hooper was left off the directing nominees, along with Ben Affleck for Argo and Tarantino for his violent slavery-era Western Django Unchained.
Amour, a moving love story about an elderly couple, fared well with the Academy, winning best picture and best director nods for Michael Haneke, and a best lead actress mention for 85-year-old Emmanuelle Riva, who became the oldest best actress nominee in the Academy's 85-year history.
At the opposite end of the spectrum, Quvenzhané Wallis (9) became the youngest ever best actress Oscar nominee for her performance in the end of the world movie Beasts of the Southern Wild, which also garnered a nod for its first time director Benh Zeitlin. – Reuters
See the full nominations list here.
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Tuesday, June 10, 2014
The U.S. Men's National Team is in Brazil and ready to do work.
Going outside and playing soccer is the only right way to do it, but when circumstances prevent you from doing such FIFA is the next best thing. This trailer does a great job of trying to show fans the true emotion that soccer evokes.
While most of the action right now is focused on the European version of football, Ronaldo and his teammates took some time to try out the American one Monday. Read more.
The MLS All-Stars will face Bundesliga champions Bayern Munich on Aug. 6 (9:30 pm ET, ESPN2, UniMas, TSN/RDS) at Portland's Providence Park. MLS fans can vote for 11 players – the All-Star Fan XI – who will then be made available for head coach Caleb Porter. Learn more.
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