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Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by bonga77, Feb 6, 2010.
After having the greatest year in the history of tennis, Laver never won a slam.
What happened?
Many of the most important events werent the slams back then with rival tours and the big money exhibitions that were giving out more than the slams, the Aussie and to some degree French Open status, etc..... He didnt even play many slams he might have won. Though he did play 4 the next 2 years in 1970 and 1971 and his results in those were not good it turned out, which was kind of strange as his results on tour and vs the top guys in general were very strong still at that point.
Rosewall reached multipel slam finals after 69 but Laver didnt reach even a slam final. very strange.
I've always thought for Laver it was psychological after 1969.
Do you think it was lack of hunger having already achieved everything or it was something else?
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Some of the Slams, due to the tour Laver was in, were barred to him eg the 1970 Australian and the 1971 French. Those two tournaments it was obvious that he could have won.
Evidence - He won the Dunlop event in Sydney a month after the 1970 Australian Open, a tournament that was best of 5 sets and had a better field than that the Australian Open (and had most of the quality players from the Australian Open in it).
In the 1971 French Open example, he easily beat the guy who was the 1970 & 1971 French Champion ,on clay at the Italian Open, just before the French Open started.
Rod Laver had a very surprising loss at 1970 Wimbledon to Roger Taylor in the fourth round. He was never his old dominant self in the slams again after that, and early open era tennis politics got in the way as well.
Still, Laver's results elsewhere were still very good in the early 1970s. Rather odd that his slam performances at the time didn't reflect that.
Very, very simple answer. Not psychological (he was still the top player on the WCT tour) and no conspiracy. The primary reason, which was obvious to everyone who knew him or his family and is probably touched on in his book, is that is that he didn't want to be away from his wife and children any more than necessary. Unlike Rosewall and others, he had a very young family and had only been married a few years. He felt that his wife had sacrificed enough to get him to the Grand Slam and he owed her the same courtesy. That meant cutting right back on playing the majors and staying as close to home as possible. Simple enough.
Some men are just thoroughly decent and Laver was one of them. End of story.
I'm not buying this at all. Laver played loaded schedules for years after 1969, constantly travelling. He couldn't spare two weeks for a major? Nah.
The psychological stuff is true, at least in part - Laver struggled big-time with his serving for quite a while in the 70s. Something that suddenly struck him, I don't know for what reason.
The stuff about him being barred from some majors is also true.
You're correct Cyborg. I will quote from Laver's book "The Education of a Tennis Player" I had no thought of another Grand Slam in 1970, simply because our pro group (Lamar Hunt's World Championship Tennis, which took over the MacCall-Podesta operation) did not enter the Australian or French Opens. The deal wasn't right.
So I would gather from this that Laver stayed true to his pro group and didn't or couldn't entered the first two majors.
Fascinating thread.
Laver at 32 went for the money, when he had all the titles. He played too much since 1968/69, which cost him a certain physical and more a mental freshness, to prepare properly for the Slams. Newcombe for instance, focussed for Wimbledon 1970/71 with a special 4 weeks of preparation.
Laver's 1970 Wimbledon loss to Taylor was maybe his weakest hour, he played horrible. Afterwards he was sort of relieved to finally lose at Wim, where he was unbeaten since 10 years. The expectations to always win, had got to him. Technically, his serve got weaker in the 70s resulting in double-faults, and the other guys saw more chances. After the 1971 season, he reduced hs schedule, played only a half season of tennis and skipped Wimbledon and most majors. He concentrated on tennis ranches, a new big business factor in the tennis boom years, which he run together with Emerson.
Maybe my definition of psychological is too broad:
"He felt that his wife had sacrificed enough to get him to the Grand Slam and he owed her the same courtesy."
"I had no thought of another Grand Slam in 1970"
"cost him a certain physical and more a mental freshness,"
"relieved to finally lose at Wim, where he was unbeaten since 10 years"
I would call all of these factors psychological.
I believe that the motivation to do what it takes to win just one slam was not there, after (because of contract deals) he could not win the calendar Grand Slam (because he could not enter the Australian Open).
In other words, after you've won all four in one year, can you really get yourself motivated to worry about just one?
(Also by 1970 Laver was supremely focused on making money? I believe that the emphasis on the greater significance of the slams that we have today was not quite so all-consuming in 1970 as it is now. Did the slams offer the highest purses of the time?)
Laver turned 31 in 1969. I think the overwhelming majority of slam winners are younger than that.
Hi everybody,
I'm back after a long absence... Happy to see that topics are still very interesting around here
I'm with Cyborg and urban here.
I think the main factors are
1) Money : playing, among others, the almost forgotten Champion's Classic proved and 'offer he couldn't refuse', and who are we to judge? Tennis players did not have a lifetime of endorsements, commenting gigs and sometimes talk-shows ahead of them as they have today...
2)History: people who were watching tennis in these days might correct me, but I feel there was less talk about history, all-time greatness, etc. Few people cared about Tilden or Doherty in the 70s, so Laver being the absolute king of his era, that might have taken away some motivation to crush records at Wimbledon or the US Open. Even if Federer is no tennis history expert (he might be, for a player, actually), there is a sense that he'll always have another feat from the past to beat, that is more prevalent in the press.
3)Context: the early Open era was a revolution that blew away a lot of tennis's conventional wisdom... This was probably the time were the Majors were the least...major! Even if others went for Newcombe or Rosewall, in late 1970, the Times of London clearly named Laver the world's top player, despite mediocre Slam results. After his 1973 Dallas success, Stan Smith stated he felt for the first time like he had surpassed the Rocket...though he had won 2 majors + a Masters crown in the past 3 years, and Laver had lost at every occasion...
So it is likely that Laver was simply adjusting to the criteria of his time. If the journalists and fans had endlessly discussed about his decline after his Wimbledon loss, as they would today, he might have prepared a lot better for the next edition...
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Probably everyone was right. It's most likely all these factors but wouldn't it have been great if Laver worked hard to tried for two Grand Slams in a row. I know he lost at Wimbledon but I wonder if he would have lost if he prepared for it heavily. Perhaps he did and lost anyway.
Roger Taylor
Roger Taylor?
Nice post Andres.
Oh well, back to reality: "earth to Andres, earth to Andres?"
for those having trouble imagining a world where majors didn't matter that much. think of a time when the biggest thing in men's tennis was the davis cup.
Laver already won the Grand Slam in 1962. He had to wait till open tennis arrived to repeat the Grand Slam in 1969. Who knows how many he could have won in between. In 1974 he, at 36 was still ranked number 4. Nobody else has achieved this.
I'm currently reading Mr. Nastase. It's evident that the real money in tennis didn't start until after Laver's prime. Really, the real money didn't start until after Nastase's prime. Anyway, Nastase relates several stories about playing in tournaments and having to fly overnight on his day off from say New York to Los Angeles to play World Team Tennis, then having to fly back that night to play the next day in the tournament.
On another occasion, Nastase was playing in Houston and had to fly to South Carolina to play the Pepsi Grand Slam and then back to Houston the next day to finish the other tournament. Nastase relates that he routinely played 25 - 35 tournaments a year. The one thing he does mention is his steadfast devotion to Davis Cup.
The pros back then were trying to maximize their income. When money began to come into the sport, the guys who lived day to day as pros before were intent on making as good a living as they could. I really don't think the majors meant as much to them. Nastase said that he made more money and was in more demand after his best days were behind him. I can only think that Rod Laver enjoyed the same delimma.
The whole major count thing didn't become important until Pete Sampras approached it. Or, the "Career Slam" wasn't important until Agassi achieved it. Or, the clay court win streak that Nadal set, nobody gave Vilas a title when he did it, and nobody gave Borg one when he did it. So, if you look at it in that perspective, for 30 - 40 years of Open tennis, nobody really made big deals out of these type accomplishments. It's only been of late when the money was obscene and the marketing of the ITF and ATP/WTA to increase their exposure came into play.
As to Laver, he played in the WITC event most every year it was held. In some of the interviews, it was pretty clear that he hadn't been playing at all, but the first prize was $50,000, so they definitely had his attention. Borg too played it, I wonder how much it would take to get the top 4 men and top 4 women today, or if there is enough money in the world...
My personal opinion is that the pros back then were more intereted in making a living and bankrolling as much cash as they could. They knew their tennis careers wouldn't go on forever and were like the folks who grew up in the Great Depression when it came to money.
Some excellent points here.
Today's media and public are far more focused on total number of slams than they were back in 1970.
After all (and I've said this before), how many persons were calling Emmo "the GOAT" back in 1970 because he had the highest total number of slams?
Answer: none.
That's why the stuff about the majors, while important is perhaps bit overrated. What's more impressive, winning 5 top tier tournaments that aren't majors but have the best field or one major? I would think the former.
Federer has under 70 tournament victories in his career. Somehow I think accomplishments like Connors and Lendl being in the 140's plus a number of majors should count for something. It amazes me that in the Open Era, virtually every top number one has been called the GOAT by many at one point or another except for Lendl. I think it had a lot to do with the fact Lendl was not liked by the media.
If we add the 9 professional majors that Laver won between 1964 and 1967 to the 6 he won as an amateur and the 5 he won in the open era, then Laver has 20 slams. Laver also achieved the professional grand slam in 1967.
To be honest, I'm surprised that the professional slams are not counted towards a player's slam total when a player turned professional before the start of the open era.
Many tennis historian do count it. Rosewall would be the leader with 23.
Yes, I think Laver's pro majors should be tallied to his record...but what about his Grand Slams before 1963?? He didn't have to play the three best players in the world, and that certainly made a difference because he was dominated by all three in '63. His amateur Slams are almost comparable to what Brian Teacher and Johan Kriek did. Sure, there were a couple of really good players in the draw (like Newcombe for Laver and Vilas, Tanner, and Lendl for Teacher/Kriek) but they didn't have to face the best in world at the time (Rosewall, Hoad, Gonzalez / Borg, McEnroe, Connors). Does Teacher ever get legitimate credit for his win? Laver's wins are more credible as displayed by his wins in the pro and Open era, but I don't think his amateur Slams should be given the same weight as his other majors IMO.
Yeah, but this isn't supported by the advent of Open tennis. When Open tennis hit, the top "amateurs" of the day were in the QF's and above. For instance, in the 1968 Wimbledon, Arthur Ashe lost to his idol Rod Laver in the semis, Dennis Ralston made the QF's to lose against Laver, Gonzalez lost in the 2nd round.
In the US Open Arthur Ashe defeated Tom Okker. Both these guys were amateurs prior to. John Newcombe was an amateur and the last amateur to win Wimbledon in 1967. He did well as a pro.
IMO, Laver's 1962 Slam may not have had the depth his 1969 Slam did but to say it's not legit just isn't right. The top players in the amateur ranks held their own with the pros when they combined.
Agree with Rabbit. While the open era Grand Slam of 1969 certainly counts more than the 1962 version, the draws Laver had to play in 1962 had depth. For his Wim win in 1962 Laver had to play people like Pierre Darmon, Whitney Reed, who were major finalists or US Nr.1, and Manuel Santana, and Neale Fraser (two Wim winners). Mulligan in the final was easy, he was better on clay (several Italian Champs wins), and had a match point vs. Laver at RG in 1962 in the quarters.
List of 1970's Majors Laver couldn't compete in
A lot of people talk about the Majors in the 60's that Laver couldn't compete in and therefore missed out on Grand Slam events then. But can we compile a list of those majors of which he was barred in the first 1/2 of the 1970's (and couldn't compete due to political, contract or other reasons?) eg Australian Open 1970 and the French Open 1970 & 1971. And of those events which ones was he a possible contender for the title. (I think he had a strong chance of winning all three of the above titles).
I don't know about that. I can speak to the barring though. Again from Ilie Nastase, the pros had a choice to make. They could either play WTT or two of the majors, the Oz and the French. Nastase was the defending champion and chose to take the WTT deal because it was more lucrative financially. I'm quite sure Laver did the same thing. There was some real resentment from the players against the ITF back then because the ITF tried to keep the players as amateurs.
Laver signed to play WCT. He did so knowing that Lamar Hunt ran his tour in competition with the ITF. That meant that Laver was contractually obligated to play WCT and could not play majors. Laver & Rosewall both chose WCT because the money was better. Nastase signed with them as well. After a period, Hunt signed an agreement with the ITF which allowed "his" players to compete.
And again, the commitment to Davis Cup is evident as the most important to the players as Nastase missed both WCT commitments and the Alan King Classic (one of the highest paying at the time) to play Davis Cup. So it is clear that the priorities of the pros at the dawn of professional tennis were vastly different than those of the last 20 years.
Yeah, the one time I saw Nastase play was a WTT match in Fresno, CA in 1976 or something like that; he had flown in directly from Rumania, where he'd played a Davis Cup tie the day before. He played part of a set, was pretty obviously a mess, and was replaced. It was still great seeing him play, though, and he still signed autographs for starry-eyed fans like me after the match was over.
It's always been obvious to me that the pros of Laver's day didn't have the luxury of being able to focus on preparing for the majors; they had to play wherever the money was best. Think about how long it took Laver to make his first million - and I'm sure that, at the time, he wouldn't have thought twice about sacrificing a chance at more major titles in exchange for bigger paydays. He knew what he needed to do to attain a comfortable life for him and his family, and that's what he (and lots of other guys) did. How many majors would he have won had things been different? Several, without a doubt. But I do also think that, after that second Slam, he lost the burning desire to win in those big events (or maybe it just didn't make financial sense for him to spend too much time preparing for an event that didn't pay as well as the CBS Tennis Classic or something like that). It has always amazed me, though, that, as good as he still was in the early Seventies, he didn't catch fire for a few days and win another Wimbledon or US Open.
You too? I saw Nastase play here in 1977, the match was here because Chris Evert has a niece living here. He played Buch Bucholtz in singles. I would have gotten an autograph, but Nastase was so incensed after the match was over he was still ranting and raving about something leaving the building. I managed to get down on the floor and yelled "Hey, Ilie!". As if by magic, he stopped in mid-sentence, looked at me, smiled and said "Hello...." and then went right back to ranting.... That was Nastase to me...
And that's why, as crazy as Nastase could be, I love watching him in action, aside from his beautiful game of course. Great story Rabbit.
Yes, let's do this list. It would be very useful.
Who knows this stuff?
(Wasn't it Jan Kodes who won the 1970 and 1971 FO, who Laver beat handily [7-5, 6-3, 6-3] in Rome in 1971 on clay? Wasn't this just a few weeks before the FO? So hypothetically Laver might have won the FO in 1971. Who else was barred and therefore could not play who also might have beaten Kodes?)
Federer's 62 tournament titles include 16 majors, 16 Masters titles and 4 year end championships. Most tennis analysts consider his achievements to be more remarkable than those of either Connors or Lendl.
The structure of today's game encourages players to be far more focused on winning big events than on piling up victories in Mickey Mouse tournaments. As such, you can't use number of tournaments won to compare players across generations.
Well I think the lead up tournaments is more due to a concerted effort between the WTA/ATP and ITF to "play nice" with each other. The effort is from a combined need for both to maximize earnings rather than competing with one another. I think the pros themselves suffer from a monopoly of sorts. The WCT was great for the pros who signed.
With regard to Connors and Lendl, sadly they fall into the category as any other sports legend. Time dimishes their achievements. I think that Connors and Lendl were extraordinary champions in their own rights and contributed far more to the game than today's players. Connors is almost single handedly responsible for the tennis boom of the 70s (well he and Evert) IMO. No other pro until Borg/McEnroe drew the attention and ratings that Connors did. And, for all the talk of his brashness, in his early career, he was a consummate professional when playing singles. His singleminded purpose was winning a match as one-sided as he could.
I think pros of the first twenty years of Open tennis had way more to deal with. Their schedules were predicated on need, not achievement and they didn't have agents or entourages. The travel they endured was more hectic and last minute.
Tennis is still a relatively new professional sport and IMO still experiencing growing pains.
Indeed. Laver also won the Sydney Dunlop Open in 1970 that took place 2 months after the Aussie. It was explicitly considered in the media as the 'unofficial' Australian major (strangely the 1st Australian Open in history in 1969 was not a success financially, so the organizers couldn't offer the same prize money the next year, hence the absence of the top pros; the Dunlop was a WCT event, so no financial issues...). Laver beat Ashe, the Australian Open winner in the final.
He couldn't take part in Roland Garros from 1970 to 1972. Afterwards, only WTT players were banned from 1974 on. But in 1973, though Laver was allowed to play he declined to go, which shows that his commitment to RG or the Australian in the 70s would have been patchy at best even if he could take part every time.
In 1972 and 1973 he wasn't in Wimbledon, the 1st time around because of the professionals' ban, the 2nd time because of the famous boycott.
He was at the Australian in 1971, but that was the last good field of the 70s there and in the following years Laver did not make the trip, though I think there was no ban or limitation of any sort.
Laver defeating Rosewall, Gimeno, Hoad and Gonzalez doesn't qualify as Mickey Mouse. Or Rosewall or the others doing the same is pretty good I would say. Laver also win a ton of top tier Open Tournaments that didn't include top level tournaments like the 1970 Sydney Dunlop in which he defeated Rosewall in the final.
I am not necessarily writing that Connors or Lendl should be rated ahead of Federer but I am writing that their great achievements in tournaments and their great consistency should count for something. Majors, while exceptionally important is not the end all in evaluating players and that is all I am writing.
Mats Wilander won three majors in 1988 but didn't win many other tournaments. Is that superior to McEnroe's year in 1984 in which McEnroe won two majors but he won virtually everything else?
Sounds like if he'd been allowed to compete that Laver would have won the AO of 1970 and the FO of 1971. But he wasn't.
At which tournament did Laver beat Rosewall in the final at White City "1970 SYDNEY LAVER 3-6, 6-2, 3-6 6-2, 6-3" ?
Was this the Dunlop?
"Being an NTL player at the beginning of 1970 Rosewall didn't play the Australian Open held at the White City courts at Sydney in January because NTL boss McCall and his players thought that the prize money was too low for a Grand Slam tournament. In March, a tournament, sponsored by Dunlop, was organized at the same site, with a much denser field because of better prize-money and a better date. The same class players as in the Australian Open were present and in addition not only the NTL pros participated but even some independent pros, such as Ilie Năstase, who usually did not make the trip to Australia. Many considered this tournament as the unofficial Australian Open with Laver dominating Rosewall in five sets."
That's the one. Check my link to Krosero's highlights of this great match.
More good reasons.
Unless I am completely misconstruing, Roger Taylor beat Ashe in the quarters of the Sydney Dunlop: 6-3, 8-6, 6-4.
Laver beat Rosewall in the finals: 3-6 6-2 3-6 6-2 6-3.
And I would agree the field looks better than at the AO of 1970. I believe that the Dunlop deserves to be the "Australian slam" of 1970.
I read somewhere the 1971 French Open was really open to WCT players, but only Ashe has decided to play there, which was one of the causes of the ILTF ban on WCT pros in the first part of 1972.
Laver won in Rome in 1971 a few weeks before, but he was probably injured during the French Open that year.
Can somebody confirm this?
Yes this is correct, sorry I got the results all mixed up, I realize I actually thought of the 1971 Aussie final where Rosewall beat Ashe....
I don't think, that Laver was injured for RG 1971. He had back problems at the Chicago WCT event in March 1971 however, when he was rushed to a hospital with a stiff back and couldn't continue. The WCT tournament series with 20 32 men events across all surfaces, all (ecept AO)outside of the majors, was very challenging. The week after winning Rome on clay, Laver had to play Teheran on hard court, 2 weeks later Bristol on grass and so on. Laver and Rosewall skipped RG and Forest Hills in 1971 to focus on that WCT series; they had a good contract with Lamar Hunt and were glad to support this first really solid and well financed tournament series.
To the the tournament wins of Laver, Rosewall or Connors. I often pointed to the Super Nine tournaments or equivalents in the early open era. Connors did win much more than Mickey Mouse events. I must make an exact count of equivalents, based on the ITF or ATP sides, to give exact numbers, but from my memory, he must have won at least some 25 Super Nine equivalents. His wins at South African, Philadelphia, Boston, Dallas, Wembley, Las Vegas in the 70s and early 80s had certainly Super Nine status. Conversely he skipped not only many RG and AO, but also the Masters Cup often in his prime years in the mid 70s.
I'm really sorry that it doesn't mesh with what you want to believe but that's just bad luck. You blokes put way too much emphasis on the whole psychology angle. That might be true for some nationalities and temperaments but when you're dealing with an Aussie like Laver it's just a waste of time.
What I wrote is based on growing up with the Lavers - Rod, Bob, Brian, Ian and - and getting the story pretty much from the horse's mouth. That's good enough for me, sorry it isn't for you.
If you knew the Lavers, I'm happy to believe your version of events. And the fact that Laver was, and is, a truly decent man is undeniable; having met him several times and played with him twice, he's as unassuming and modest as you could want. It still kills me that, at one event, he actually came up to me on his own, stuck out his hand, and said, "Hi, I'm Rod Laver." As if I didn't know...and, hopefully, he couldn't tell I was trembling inside, standing there chatting with my all-time tennis hero. We just stood there and talked, like two buddies waiting for a court to open up. It was amazing.
laver and slams in the 70s
laver played wimbledon '70 and us open '70. he played aussie '71 and wimbledon '71. He was barred from playing aussie '70 and french '70 because of his ntl contract. He withdrew from french and us opens in'71 citing mental tiredness. Other wct players played both events, although most top wct players did not played the french. In '72 laver was barred from the french and wimbledon due to his wct contract. He did not enter the aussie in '72 but did play the us open, where a back injury limited his effectiveness and forced him to curtail his schedule for the rest of '72. In '73 laver skipped the aussie, withdrew from the french due to his back problem, missed wimbedon due to his back and the atp boycott, but did play the us open. In '74 laver played no slams as he cut back his schedule to concentrate on his tennis camps.
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A study of research methods and resources in the discipline of theology, this course teaches students to compile a bibliography for use in the discipline. The emphasis of the course varies from year to year, focusing on an important person in the history of Christian theology (such as Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther, Augustine of Hippo, Mary Daly, Theresa of Avila or Karl Rahner) or an important movement or school of thought in the history of Christian theology (such as the Reformation, personalism, Thomism, scholasticism, women and religion, Christian Social Ethics). The course fulfills the advanced writing requirement for majors in Theology.


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When Sasha Chanoff, the founder of RefugePoint, reached out to the Fire's ownership about hosting a family at Saturday's Fire game that seemed like the least we could do.
The Lokango family, a Congolese refugee family (whose lives RefugePoint saved) are new arrivals in Chicago. Prior to Chicago, they were living as refugees in Kenya for a number of years. Not only did they suffer unspeakably before escaping the Congo, but the 13-year-old, Emile, was shot in the leg in Nairobi because they were living in a dangerous area where refugees had become targets.
RefugePoint's Cheryl Hamilton, who escorted the family to Toyota Park, had met them a few months ago in Nairobi and worked with RefugePoint to get them out as soon as possible. They are overjoyed and overwhelmed with relief to finally be in Chicago and safe.
Sasha and Cheryl knew Chicago Fire owner Andrew Hauptman and had worked with the Hauptman family as they had hosted a fundraiser for RefugePoint in the past. Additionally, in 2010, RefugePoint's effort in protecting the world's most vulnerable refugees was awarded with the prestigious Charles Bronfman Prize (one of whose founders is Andrew Hauptman). As the boys also love soccer, Cheryl knew that it would be a warm Chicago welcome for them to come and experience a Chicago Fire game. They were seen cheering on the Fire and high-fiving other supporters after Mike Magee's magical penalty kick.
In the end, it was an honor to host the family and for them to be recognized on field during Saturday's game against Toronto. Their story touched everyone who met them at Toyota Park on Saturday, and they definitely brought the Men in Red good luck as well.
For more on RefugePoint and the hundreds of families they help (including the Lokango's) visit http://www.refugepoint.org/.


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Now that the adrenaline of the Rudy Gay deal has subsided, we can see more clearly where we are with this club. We gave up considerable depth to obtain a potential star. I still like the deal but our bench needs to be overhauled.
No offense to JL3 but he can lose a game more easily than he can win it.
AA has shown flashes of being a solid rotation player but is too inconsistent and chews up too many possessions taking flow killing and team morale deflating shots. Furthermore, his minutes are detracting from what was once a promising rookie campaign for flight 31.
I liked Landry Fields as a Knick but his career is in the abyss right now and he won't come out until this dreadful season is behind him. It's obvious that his surgery has messed him up pretty bad.
Bargnani........... why would he even try at this point when the fans boo him and his GM openly said he was done here? Not that it's an accuse for his terrible play and his general malaise.
Air-on Gray is a serviceable big who I have no trouble going to when I need someone to throw Roy Hibbert into the stands to send a message.
Q was playing well earlier when given an opportunity, not sure what happened behind the scenes to warrant his complete lack of playing time but I guess it boils down to trying to recover any trade value Bargnani may have had before this season.
Telfair - un-rateable at this point.
In recent years, our starters have dug a hole and our bench has pulled us out, only to have our starters blow it for us. Now we find ourselves in the opposite predicament, our starters come out fighting and our bench is a complete nightmare, digging too big a hole for our starters to recover. With our starting five achieving passable respectability in the Eastern Conference with a reasonable expectation of growth and development for next season, we need to give our rookies a chance to see what they can do with reliable minutes and then look to upgrade in the off season where appropriate.
Attention Kyle Lowry - please look to score more, we need you to be aggressive to break down defenses and generate ball movement. We were told that's why you were brought you in, oh and that you were a bulldog on defense. Maybe it's the back spasms. If you're that hurt (as evidenced by lying down every time you come out) then stop playing and get well soon. We need you long term.
PS - In the spirit of caution and the long term interests of the club I have never proposed using the amnesty until today. Sorry Bargnani. Unless a trade can be made for a rack of balls.


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Breakdowns: These Are The Black Women That Might Be On SNL
The parade of black women through 30 Rock's Studio 8H will soon be drawing to a close as Lorne Michaels is zeroing in on who he will add to the cast; what was supposed to be a commercial for The Secret Life of Walter Mitty turned into something much more poignant; the new season of Archer is almost upon us, and thank god; and humor pieces on the economics of Middle Earth should generally try to be, well, humorous.
- And then there were three: Lorne Michaels final round of auditions for Saturday Night Live whittled the almost 25 applicants down to three black women, all alumni of the Upright Citizens Brigade: sketch comedian Kerry Coddett, stand up comedian Sasheer Zamata, and comedian Natasha Rothwell of the NBC Diversity Scholarship Program. Who Michaels cast is rumored to be announced this week. [Laughspin]
- When asked to compete to create a promo for The Secret Life of Walter Mitty under the theme of "Live Your Dreams," filmmaker Casey Neistat instead asked for $25,000 and showed how every penny could be spent helping people in the Phillippines, and shot the conceptual film on his own dime instead. [THR]
- Since we're just under a month away from the season premiere of one of the greatest shows of our time, Archer, here's a new video that depicts our friends at ISIS going through the same struggles you deal with every fucking day. [YouTube]
- Slate has taken a deep dive into the questions concerning the potential of ensuing inflation for whomever steals all of Smaug's gold in the latest The Hobbit film. The economic analysis isn't even good, but points for trying to be funny. [Slate]
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text: I'm not sure what you mean it doesn't produce standard c++. Despite microsoft's faults, gv++ is pretty good. Make sure your actually using c++, and not c++.net. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield http://tds-solutions.net Twitter: sorressean On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Alex Midence wrote: > Hi, folks, > > This thread hit sorta close to home for me. As I have mentioned > before, I, myself, am learning how to code and I decided to hop out of > the proverbial airplane because my language of choice is c++. I began > with visual studio simply because it was the first compiler and ide I > found that was easy to get to in google and that was free. I figured > it'd work best because it was made by the very people who made the > operating system. I then attempted to apply what I was learning from > various tutorials in this ide and came to a screeching halt because it > turns out that this ide doesn't produce "standard c++" unleass you > tweak it. All the tutorials I was following teach standard c++. I > then hauled off and got eclipse only to find I needed a compiler to go > with it. Went and got myself minGw and was still not able to compile > because I needed to mess with settings in the eclipse ide that I was > unfamiliar with to let it know where the compiler was and which one to > use. It wasn't until I just went in and actually wrote my code into a > no frills text editor (notepad, yes, notepad), saved my file as cpp > and then compiled in a command line that I got my program to work. I > learned a whole lot on the way and look forward to learning more. The > most fundamental lesson I learned was to just work with the raw code > and command line compiler first before jumping into these ide's. This > lets me focus on just the language, what it's doing, how it's doig it > and the act of compiling it. I don't have to worry about a > potentially inaccessible piece of software cutting into my learning of > the code. And, it appears I'll get a fuller understanding of what's > actually going on because I'm doing so much of it by hand. It's like > making yourself a batch of refried beans starting with the raw beans, > cooking them in a pot and then frying them afterwards. You did it all > from scratch instead of just grabbing a can of beans, opening it up > and heating it up on the stove before serving. Best of all, my > programs have so far worked like the tutorials said they would. So, > Jess, my advice to you is this: > > Get yourself a nice text editor like edSharp, text pad, ps pad or, > even notepad which you already have. Then, go get yourself a free > compiler in the language you choose. I chose c++ because it seems to > really force you to learn some nuts and bolts and doesn't have the > feel of some wussy gussied up toy language like visual basic with > pretty buttons and nice forms and icons and all that mess. It's also > the language that a huge number of applications are written in which > leads me to believe that, once I am done learning the basics, I'll be > able to really do something with it in exchange for all my bloodsweat > and tears. You choose whatever one you feel you want to though but, > just stick to the text editor and compiler method for your first > handful of programs and you'll be better off. Whatever you do, > though, don't give up over visual studio. > > Just my two cents as a fellow neophyte. Hang in there. > > Alex > > > On 6/30/10, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> It won't compile actually, you missed a comma. >> int main(int argc, char** argv) >> :) >> >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield >> http://tds-solutions.net >> Twitter: sorressean >> >> On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Ken Perry wrote: >> >>> Um how hard is this >>> >>> //myfile.c >>> #include <stdlib.h> >>> #include <stdio.h> >>> Int main (int argc char *arv) >>> { >>> Printf ("hello world"); >>> Return (0); >>> } >>> >>> Gcc myfile.c -o myfile >>> >>> There I just wrote a program that will compile in this email. I didn't >>> need >>> an ide I didn't need to drop buttons what I could focus on was the code. >>> The problem is you are confusing learning to code with learning to program >>> applications. Sure I don't want to start my first full blown application >>> writing it at the command line creating the graphical widgets etc. I do >>> how >>> ever want to start with a simple step by step method. I could write a >>> simple program to take input in only a couple more lines of code and see >>> the >>> results instantly. If I get errors the errors would pop up instantly you >>> wouldn't have to hunt for the window they are in. In c variables must be >>> at >>> the top of every code segment or {} section. In languages like VB and c++ >>> and C# you can throw in variable declarations any where. Which is easier >>> to >>> teach someone put your variables here or hey throw them any where and then >>> try and hunt down where the error is? >>> >>> I could go on but I have had this argument with professors and at least >>> held my own if not won from time to time. Its great if all you want to do >>> is make a sited person happy that they made a simple application but if >>> you >>> really trying to teach them to code and to continue to learn to code then >>> you shouldn't lose them in the manusia before they understand what they >>> are >>> doing. >>> >>> Now I chalange you to teach me to write a visual basic application in the >>> next email you write to this list. Make it write a message to the screen >>> and do it from the IDE. See how many steps you have to explain. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ken >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:10 PM >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: I feel like giving up on programming altogether! >>> >>> Well, Ken, as I see it, programming is divided into 2 major areas: >>> 1) Learning to think/problem-solve in the way the computer does; & then >>> 2) Learning whatever language u need that will fit the sort of >>> applications you're coding. >>> >>> It's a tough road to do both at the same time, & it's why I recommend >>> learning something easier at first, e.g., basic, Python, etc. Once >>> folks kind of get the concepts of how to use the compiler/interpreter >>> & instruct the computer to do what they want, then the next logical >>> progression is something like C. But I think learning C initially is >>> rather like what my dad did to me when I was 4--threw me into Lake >>> Michigan in 62 degree water over my head. Not fun. &, no, it did not >>> teach me to swim any better or any earlier, believe me. >>> >>> In retrospect, I rather like the way I approached things--I taught >>> myself Basic, which I used (& rather effectively, I might add) to sort >>> patient visits by date for tax purposes when I was in practice because >>> my crazy billing program didn't. Then I went on to learn C. It worked >>> well. That is not to say it will work well for others. Then I got some >>> formal programming training, & I believe what I'd taught myself >>> previously stood me in very good stead for learning that. >>> >>> Each person has to go his/her own way, I guess, but I think a gentler >>> intro than C is more beneficial for those who are self-taught. Just my >>> $.02--& what do I know? You're the 1 making a living at it, not mwa. >>> >>> On 6/30/10, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Actually I know someone who does professional programming who has his >>> degree >>>> in electronics and only took two coding classes which he could have >>>> taught >>>> when he took hem. College is not all it's cracked up to be but that is >>>> another argument. >>>> >>>> I understand that Jess is using vs but that don't mean he or she has to. >>> In >>>> fact I ended up having to learn the Microsoft build system because the VS >>>> ide wouldn't do the cross compile system I wanted it to so I had to get >>> out >>>> of VS and create the build xml file by hand which you can do. Heck for >>> that >>>> matter you can code in VB by hand and actually use a compiler which gets >>> you >>>> out of the graphical IDE and lets you learn to code. In fact you can >>>> find >>> a >>>> few examples of this up on the fruit basket page. >>>> >>>> Ken >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:29 PM >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: Re: I feel like giving up on programming altogether! >>>> >>>> Hi Ken: Jes said he is working in the VS IDE already. I don't know if it >>> is >>>> for school, for work or just for fun. OK, let me set my point clear... A >>>> person needs to get a good University Education in Computer Programming >>>> or >>> a >>>> >>>> related field to work in that arena. You can not become a Professional >>>> Programmer by playing with Visual Studio. You can, however, get help on >>> list >>>> >>>> with Visual Studio and it is fine, if you have the patients, for learning >>> to >>>> >>>> do some programming as a hobbyist. The things we never talk about to >>>> nubes >>>> is the process of learning to turn a step by step analysis of solving >>>> business, engineering or technical problems into computer code. That is >>>> where a University Education comes in.. Once that skill is mastered then >>> it >>>> becomes a matter of learning a Programming Language and coding up a >>>> solution. Using a IDE is just a time saving step after you have done the >>>> former learning processes. When I see someone asking to learn to become a >>>> Computer Programmer by reading books and learning on their own I assume >>> they >>>> >>>> are trying to do it as a hobby. I can't imagine anyone in their right >>>> mind >>>> would seriously consider trying to learn to become a Professional >>>> Computer >>>> Programmer and compete in the Job Market without a formal education - it >>>> just seems like so much nonsense. There might be one or two out there who >>>> did it that way but 99+ percent have taken University Courses if they >>>> work >>>> in the field. Jes said he was working on a project in VS IDE, having >>>> problems and the process I outlined just touched bases with the things he >>>> needed to ensure he did, and did correctly, to get his project up and >>>> running. The blurb about learning Programming ie... IPO, was just to >>>> start >>>> the brain working in thinking about inputs, outputs and Processing as 3 >>>> things that need to be done, sigh, and even that is diferent in today's >>> OOP >>>> world. >>>> Rick USA. >>>> Message ----- >>>> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:47 PM >>>> Subject: RE: I feel like giving up on programming altogether! >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry Rick but this is what is wrong with most coders coming out of >>>>> college now days. They code by the drop button and create if statement >>>>> method. Have you actually looked at Job listings. A person that learns >>>>> to >>>>> code the way you just laid out whether they be sited or blind will be >>>>> the >>>>> bottom of the barrel. Some jobs asks for Visual studio but a monkey can >>>>> make a form and add an if statement to it to make a button do something. >>>>> If >>>>> a person wants to be a coder they need to be make sure they are not >>>>> getting >>>>> themselves where they can be put out by some new AI programming language >>>>> that can make the forms straight from a design chart created by a >>>>> secretary. That type of coding can be done by anyone. >>>>> >>>>> Colleges switched to GUI environments to make money because any sited >>>>> person >>>>> can create a half baked program with them. They did the same thing to >>> the >>>>> electronics field with places like ITT and other tech schools that >>>>> taught >>>>> half baked electronics. Now I am not saying a good electronics person >>>>> or >>>>> a >>>>> good coder can't come from the easy road what I am saying is it is much >>>>> more >>>>> unlikely that one will. >>>>> >>>>> If on the other hand you start with a compiled language or an assembled >>>>> language you will understand what is going on. You shouldn't even worry >>>>> about the GUI till you know how programs are logically put together and >>>>> why. >>>>> Otherwise we are going to need that 48 core computer and 12 TB of ram >>> just >>>>> to run the next text editor because we as coders are getting slipperier >>>>> and >>>>> messier because we don't understand what is going on under the engine. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway I have ranted enough but a person that is just getting started >>>>> would >>>>> be better to start in straight C and learn what memory was, how to deal >>>>> with >>>>> pointers, and understand what a register is because in the long run if >>>>> you're really going to be a coder not a monkey dialog maker you will >>>>> need >>>>> that information and if you think you have become a coder by creating >>> some >>>>> monkey dialogs you will find yourself very screwed when you take that >>>>> job >>>>> you are not even close to ready for. >>>>> >>>>> Ken >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:18 PM >>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: Re: I feel like giving up on programming altogether! >>>>> >>>>> First, Programming in today's world is a world apart from where we use >>>>> to >>>>> be. It is so much simpler in some ways and light years more complex in >>>>> other >>>>> >>>>> ways. Programming in the Visual Studio IDE takes a large learning curve. >>>>> You >>>>> >>>>> need to install and configure that puppy. Fail to do this and you will >>> be >>>>> hearing more junk and losing focus more than an intrevert at a rock >>>>> concert. >>>>> >>>>> That is a pain itself. Then, if you run JAWS you need to configure JAWS, >>>>> again better get it right. Then after you get all that done you can open >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> IDE and look at a bunch of buttons and dialogs that have seemingly >>> nothing >>>>> to do with creating a computer program using computer statements. And, >>> God >>>>> Forbid, You try and download and install Sql Server Express, well, you >>>>> will >>>>> be headed for gray hair if you are one of the lucky few who get that >>>>> far. >>>>> You absolutely need to configure the IDE for accessibility, pick the >>>>> ssimpelest language, vb.net, to start with and create your first Hello >>>>> World >>>>> >>>>> Form from the Form1 file. That is after you create a new project of the >>>>> Windows Forms type. Then you can drop a couple of buttons, a textbox or >>>>> 2 >>>>> on >>>>> >>>>> the Form1 designer, set their properties and code the related VB Code >>>>> for >>>>> the Button Click Events and mess with the Text Properties of the >>>>> TextBoxes. >>>>> If you get that far you will be on your way to learning to Program in >>>>> Visual >>>>> >>>>> Studio. I would start with the Vb.net Express module since it does not >>>>> have >>>>> all the other languages and is just a little cleaner to start with. Once >>>>> you >>>>> >>>>> get the nack of making a form do things like Display Output to a user, >>>>> Read >>>>> Inputs from a user and do some Processing on the input, you have the >>> basic >>>>> understanding of what computer programming is really about IPO, Input / >>>>> Process / Output. If you jump into C++, Visual Studio IDE and a DB you >>> are >>>>> jumping out of an airplane and flapping as hard as you can but you can >>>>> pretty much guess the final result. But, Give Up? Did We Give Up when >>>>> the >>>>> Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor? No, when the going gets tough - the tough >>> ask >>>>> questions on list and follow up with more work! >>>>> Rick USA >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Jes" <theeternalkid@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:59 PM >>>>> Subject: I feel like giving up on programming altogether! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> All I get when using visual studio are nothing but errors! I just want >>>>> to >>>>> be >>>>> >>>>> able to write a program and have it work! Just once! But no. All I get >>> are >>>>> errors! So what's the use in even trying? Encouragement needed badly! >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Jes >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Change the world--1 deed at a time >>> Jackie McBride >>> Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org >>> homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net >>> For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind


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Seth Baczynski can thank Brad Tavares for his current run at welterweight.
After losing a first bout to the Hawaiian fighter by disqualification on "The Ultimate Fighter 11" and getting smothered in a rematch at the conclusion of the reality show, Baczynski thought about hanging it up.
"I didn't want to be one of those guys bouncing around on the small shows for a paycheck," Baczynski told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio).
Baczynski (15-6 MMA, 2-1 UFC) now has back-to-back submission wins under his belt in the UFC and on Friday meets Lance Benoist (6-0 MMA, 1-0 UFC) at UFC on FX 3, which takes place at BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla. The prelimianry-card bout airs on FUEL TV in advance of main-card bouts on FX.
Benoist brings a 6-0 resume to the fight following a decision win over Matt Riddle in his octagon debut at UFC Fight Night 25.
Aware the he was undersized for the middleweight class, Baczynski began to drop weight immediately after the second loss to Tavares. He fought WEC vet Tim McKenzie at a catchweight of 175 pounds and then won an interim welterweight championship in a regional Canadian promotion.
Baczynski considers Benoist to be a step up in competition, and a fitting piece to his comeback. Now fighting out of Tempe, Ariz., alongside UFC vets Ryan Bader, C.B. Dollaway and Aaron Simpson, Baczynski is adjusting well to the lighter life.
"That fight with Brad was a huge turning point in my career," he said.
In his first trip back to the octagon at UFC Fight Night 25, he submitted Clay Harvison in the second round, and he then did the same to Matt Brown at UFC 139. He did both while suffering from a double hernia in his abdomen wall.
"I just had to get through it," Baczynski said.
Recently, he underwent surgery to correct the problem and is back to all the normal bumps and bruises that come with training camp.
After beating Harvison, Baczynski remembers watching Benoist, who made his debut at UFC Fight Night 25.
"He's a southpaw, and I remember him being well-rounded," Baczynski said. "Just from that little bit of watching him, I got some information on him. He's a pretty good wrestler, pretty good grappler, and he's pretty good on his feet. I remember him throwing a spinning back-kick. Guy has got to be pretty loose to do stuff like that."
That's about all Baczynski knows about his opponent. The rest, he said, is left to his coaches, who have formulated a game plan to practice in the final days of camp.
Benoist may not be the same fighter he remembers, but at least he won't be the size that's unmanageable.
For more on UFC on FX 3, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of the site.
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FYI/TMI: Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga Among Top Money Makers; "Hall And Oates"' Man-Eating Altercation
(In an effort to keep you fully informed, and fully entertained, below we present today's FYI and TMI — news you need and news that's, well, sometimes needless….)
Spears Is Forbes' Top-Earning Woman In Music
Forbes magazine has revealed its list of the top-earning women in music in 2012 with GRAMMY winner Britney Spears ranking No. 1 with $58 million in earnings. Taylor Swift placed No. 2 with $57 million, followed by Rihanna ($53 million), Lady Gaga ($52 million) and Katy Perry ($45 million). Figures were determined by income before taxes and other fees earned between May 2011 and May 2012, including album, concert ticket and merchandise sales and other endorsements and business ventures.
Warner Reports Narrower Loss, Increased Revenue
Warner Music Group reported a loss of $18 million for its fiscal fourth quarter ending Sept. 30, a smaller drop than the $103 million reported for the year-ago quarter. Quarterly revenue reached $731 million, up 2 percent compared to the year-ago period, and digital revenue grew 15 percent to $241 million. Total revenue for 2012 reached $2.78 billion, down slightly from the $2.87 billion reported in 2011, while WMG's annual loss narrowed from $205 million to $112 million.
Report: Music Among Dominating Social Conversation Topics
According to a new report from Pew Research Center, 67 percent of people across 21 countries said they were likely to discuss music and movies via social media platforms, with 63 percent of respondents residing in the United States. Overall, 50 percent of U.S. respondents said they use social media. The report is based on surveys held between March 17 and April 20 and covers usage of social media services such as Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, Twitter, and Tumblr.
Altercation Reported Involving Hall And Oates
Could it be that the dynamic GRAMMY-nominated duo Hall And Oates were prophesying when they released "Maneater" in 1982? The duo, except not really the duo, were involved in a man-eating altercation on Dec. 9 in Norwalk, Ohio. A man named Roger Oates has been jailed after allegedly biting the eyebrow off his neighbor, Scott Hall. The altercation was reportedly the result of an angry Oates, who was miffed that Hall would not testify on his behalf in court over an underage alcohol consumption issue. As of this report, Oates is currently being held in custody. As for the real Hall And Oates, they had nothing to do with the incident, and are likely hiding their private eyes from the media.


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Police in Quebec have confirmed that they have recovered around half of the cash stolen during the robbery at Jonathan Duhamel's home in December.
According to CTV News, police received an anonymous tip saying that the cash was hidden in a mailbox in Old Longueuil, around 80 miles from Montreal. Officers discovered around $115,000 in the denominations and currency that had been taken from the 2010 World Champion's house.Four people, including Duhamel's ex-girlfriend have been charged in connection with the home invasion and face trial, probably in May.Keep up to date with all the news from the poker world by following us on Twitter and Facebook.
After last month raising the prize pool for the Sunday versions of its Sundowner online poker tournaments to $3,000, Intertops Poker and Juicy Stakes are at it again by announcing that each pot is now to contain a further $500.
After recently expanding the schedule for their Sundowner online poker tournaments to include Sunday competitions, Juicy Stakes and Intertops Poker have now announced that the events' prize pools have been increased to $3,000.
After launching its new United Kingdom-licensed online casino at Breakout Casino last month, Breakout Gaming Group has now premiered a poker counterpart with Breakout Poker.
The online poker site at Juicy Stakes has been running its Sundowner tournaments for some time but it recently announced that the events have proven so popular that it is now expanding the schedule to encompass Sunday competitions.
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The city of Sarasota solicited the public's input at a meeting Thursday evening into the design of a parking garage on Palm Avenue.
The 2.2-acre site has been the subject of four, separate development proposals over the years, but the city rejected each and instead decided to build its own parking garage on that site.
The garage would have 600 to 700 parking spaces with up to five levels. The ground floor would contain about 14,000 square feet of retail space fronting Palm Avenue.
City planner Steve Stancel said the city had several goals in mind for the garage, including cost efficiency, pleasing aesthetics that blend into the current neighborhood, environmentally friendly design and pedestrian connectivity to Main Street and cultural destinations, such as the opera.
Stancel said the cost is estimated from $10.8 million to $13.2 million. The higher estimate includes LEED environmental certification and building the garage to have the capability to add another level in the future.
The city has not yet decided whether it will sell the retail portion of the project or lease it.
Stancel said if the city leased the retail space, it could bring up to $250,000 in annual income for City Hall. One resident said another benefit would be that the city could ensure a better mix of retail-business types downtown.
The city will request developer proposals later this month, with a response deadline of June or July. A developer will be selected in August. Construction is set to begin in May 2010, with an estimated completion date of October 2010.
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Decision deferred on Norfolk and Norwich festival licensing hours
PUBLISHED: 17:36 26 February 2014 | UPDATED: 09:04 27 February 2014
Organisers of the Norfolk and Norwich festival have attempted to reassure people living nearby that they will not be disturbed during the event.
The guarantees came during a meeting to decide whether an application to extend the hours of the festival, which runs from May 14 to 25, in the Chaplefield Gardens Spiegeltent would be approved.
Members of Norwich City Council's licensing committee deferred a decision when they met to consider the application this afternoon.
The festival had applied for a licence for music, live performances and sale of alcohol until 1am between Monday and Thursday, 2am on Friday and Saturday and midnight on Sunday.
But people who live near Chapelfield Gardens complained that loud music late at night stops their children from settling on school nights, makes it difficult to sleep before work and leaves their windows shaking.
There are also concerns that the sale of alcohol at the festival could lead to anti-social behaviour.
Adam Ziolkowski, who lives at Chapelfield East, raised concerns that the festival will take place during his exam period.
"In previous years I have been very disturbed by this. Last year the last night of the festival it went on until 2.15am," he said.
His father Thomas said it was the licensing, rather than the event itself which concerned them. Representing the Chapelfield Gardens Residents' Association, he said: "We are reasonably happy that there is a festival until 11 or 11.30pm in the evening. We don't understand why it needs to be accompanied by the sale of alcohol."
However, organisers tried to reassure neighbours the festival will not disrupt their normal routine.
Mark Denbigh, head of production at the Norfolk and Norwich Festival Trust, said: "We are proposing to more regularly monitor the noise levels by taking hourly readings.
"We are also offering to increase the advertising of the site telephone number around the site, so members of the public can contact us if they have problems."
Mr Denbigh suggested other measures, including ensuring that toilet cleans happen no earlier than 8am, closing the outside bar one hour before the Spiegeltent closes and moving food venues around the site so they are not in one area.
He added that the team "are open to learning from residents".
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Could you help me ID these finds please.
The 1st picture looks like a stone with some kind of bone like structure inside which is unusual so I thought it might be a fossil of some kind. It was found on Lowestoft beach in Suffolk.
The 2nd was found on Pakefield beach and has strange markings on it which looked like it could be from a plant?
The 3rd looks similar to something I have seen in a museum recently and looks like some kind of shell fossil or indentation?
I would appreciate some help to ID these and if they turn out to be anything of interest to know a little more about how they occured and what age they might be.
With Regards
Hello amber.eyes,
The top specimen is our old friend "banded flint".
Banded flint
Some flint show a series of roughly parallel lines, either as three dimensional ridges or a surface pattern. This lines vary in how far apart they are and how straight or curved and they may change direction or end abruptly. These are banded flints. They are often mistaken for fossils.
The cause of banded flint is still not known for certain. One theory is that in some flints the silica was originally deposited rhythmically in bands that differed in their original water content, which caused areas of the flint to weather differently to create this shape. Other theories relate to the movement of water through flints after their original formation changing the shape.
I hope this is of interest,
kind regards,
P.S. Have a good Bank Holiday weekend!
Flint burrow infills
Many of the flint nodules that are mistaken for fossils do actually have a different kind of fossil origin. Many elongate, tapering flint nodules, which may also be branching, have that shape because silica gel flowed into the burrows of animals such as small shrimp in the ancient seabed. This silica gel later hardened to form flint nodules in the shape of the burrows. These are a type of trace fossil, meaning fossils that preserve the behaviour of creatures (such as footprints or burrows) rather than body parts. Flint burrow infills are commonly mistaken for fossil teeth and claws!
Left: A tapering flint nodule that may be a burrow infill, which was brought in for identification as a suspected fossil tooth.
Sponges in flint
Some flint nodules can be very spherical, and these are often mistaken for fossil eggs! Many of the spherical flints have a fossil origin, having formed around sponges. Fossil sponges in flint can also be other shapes such as elongate or club-shaped. The fossil sponge can sometimes be seen in tact within the flint nodule, but often the sponge breaks down to leave a hollow with a distinctive "fluffy" texture. This is known as a "rotten" sponge in flint. If a flint nodule has a hollow centre, you can sometimes hear loose material in the centre rattle when you shake it!
Flint geodes
Sometimes after a sponge has broken down, flint nodules have later mineral growth within the hollows. This happens when the flint lies in water with dissolved mineral content. Over long periods of time the water penetrates the flint and chemical conditions cause the deposition of the dissolved mineral within the water around the hollow inside. This forms a geode, a term for a crystal lined cavity. The crystals in flint are usually the common mineral quartz.
All the best,
Hi Fiona - thanks for the replies. Just a few things - I wasn't sure about the stone that you say is a banded flint but having seen an almost identical item in a museum in Oulton Broad today saying it was an agragate with fossil shell imprint I thought what I had is the same. If this is the case then it sounds as though they have mis identified their rock!
Also are you saying that picture 3 (the one I have called 'sponge') is a flint burrow infill, a sponge in flint or a flint geode. I'm a little confused?
Many Thanks


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HEATWAVE! is an all-vinyl dance party spinning Motown/Garage Rock/Mod/R&B/Soul/Oldies. Check out our Facebook page for more information. Skinny ties and bouffants welcome – but above all, come ready to dance.
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This Estimated Second Interim Distribution Refunding Agreement (the "Agreement") is entered into between you, the above-described claimant ("Claimant"), and the New Jersey Insolvent Health Maintenance Organization Assistance Association (the "Association").
The New Jersey Insolvent Health Maintenance Organization Assistance Fund Act of 2000 (the "Act") was enacted on April 6, 2000 for the purpose of protecting, subject to certain limitations, covered individuals and providers against the failure or inability of HIP Health Plan of New Jersey, Inc. ("HIP") and American Preferred Provider Plan, Inc. ("APPP") to perform certain contractual obligations as a result of insolvency.
The Act established the New Jersey Insolvent Health Maintenance Organization Assistance Association ("Association") as a nonprofit legal entity to manage the funding and payment of certain eligible claims against HIP and APPP. As a condition of receiving payment directly from the Association for eligible claims, providers of health care services of the insolvent carrier agree to forgive one-third of the unpaid contractual obligations due them.
In addition, the Act provides that Claimant's claims may be subject to retrospective verification or audit and that all, or part, of any interim partial payment or distribution may be reclaimed by the Association as a result of the findings.
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Cody Franson is unhappy with the manner in which his 2011-12 season with the Maple Leafs unfolded.
What's worse for the defenceman is that he has no idea when he might be able to make amends, let-alone sign a new contract with the Leafs.
A restricted free agent, Franson is in limbo during the NHL lockout after failing to agree to terms with the Leafs before the work stoppage started on Sunday.
"You hoped to have it done before, and now you hope to have it done soon after this is resolved," Franson said on Wednesday. "For me, it's a matter of making sure I'm in the best shape, ready to step in and play well right off the bat, put my stamp on things. "I wasn't happy with my season last year and the way things went."
A few hours after Franson stopped to talk to a reporter at the MasterCard Centre following an informal workout with some of his Leafs teammates and members of the Toronto Marlies, the NHL announced the cancellation of pre-season games through Sept. 30.
As for Franson, he is not as fortunate as some members of the NHLPA, who have fled for Europe and apparently have no problem letting their lesser-skilled brethren soak up the lockout atmosphere in North America.
Franson is preparing to head out of town on Friday, back to his off-season home in Kelowna, B.C., where he plans to skate with other NHLers who reside in the picturesque community until the lockout ends. No formal negotiations between the players and the league are planned.
There are approximately 10 Leafs regulars who have been skating at the MCC this week, including captain Dion Phaneuf, Phil Kessel and Mikhail Grabovski, and it's probable the majority of them will leave Toronto on the weekend as the lockout gets further cemented.
Franson, like so many other players, is firm in his belief that the union will not be swayed by the owners.
"It's not like we are trying to rob the bank or anything," Franson said. "We just want a fair deal. All of us feel the same way about it. We have prepared ourselves to be in this situation and we kind of figured they would lock us out.
"We had over 300 people in New York (for NHLPA meetings last week). Everyone we talked to who was not at that meeting is very much on board with what we discussed. We have not had any people questioning anything, really. We have a very strong union right now and everybody is behind what we are doing."
The NHL lockout of 2012-13 became a living, breathing thing late on Wednesday afternoon.
Citing in a statement the "absence of a collective bargaining agreement," with the players' association, the NHL announced the cancellation of all pre-season games through Sept. 30.
Gone are six Maple Leafs exhibition games:
- Sept. 24 vs. Ottawa;
- Sept. 25 at Ottawa;
- Sept. 26 vs. Philadelphia at London, Ont.;
- Sept. 28 at Buffalo;
- Sept. 29 vs. Buffalo;
- Oct. 3 vs. Columbus at Belleville, Ont.
The game in Belleville against the Blue Jackets was a Kraft Hockeyville game, and it has been re-scheduled to next year.
The Leafs have three other pre-season games slated for October — vs. Philadelphia on Oct. 2; at Detroit on Oct. 5; and vs. Detroit on Oct. 6. But it's just a matter of time before the other exhibition games are shelved too.
Phaneuf was still holding out hope that the lockout would end swiftly. "It has not technically started yet," Phaneuf said. "Camp does not start until Saturday (with on-ice sessions). That's the outlook I have. Right now it is still about training and preparing to try to start camp as early as we can."


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Raptors used to have game in 6 minutes, so if I missed a game I can get a good dose of the game instead of 15 second tidbits. They don't have that this year.
So, if one doesn't have cable or RapsTV (I use OTA), where can you watch a good chunk of highlights (or even a full game)?