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Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by CaptainCanada, Mar 27, 2011.
I suspected as much.
The wife and I have seen the musical several times, LOVED the movie, LOVED the entire cast, a triumph, can't wait to see it again!
She might not have any previous screen experience, but she's no stranger to the role of Eponine, having performed it on the London stage and as part of the musical's 25th Anniversary Concert, so it was kind of a given that she'd do well in the role.
It's released in the UK today, I just got back from seeing it. The amount of close-ups was a bit jarring but overall I really enjoyed it. Hugh Jackman was awesome and deserves his Best Actor nomination. I thought Anne Hathaway's I Dream a Dream was the most emotive, and it was a shame it came so early really because no other moment affected me as much.
It actually comes earlier in the stage musical (directly after "At the End of the Day," when Fantine is tossed out by the factory foreman). Moving it to when her life had absolutely hit rock-bottom was a pretty wise decision, I felt.
Do you have the 10th and 25th Anniversary DVDs? Must haves for fans. Alfie Boe on the 25th is fantastic! Different from Wilkinson, so both can be appreciated, rather than one "better" than the other.
I've seen bits and pieces of the 25th, but I have to admit between the two (and admittedly, not seeing all of the former) I tend to prefer the 10th myself. The 25th cast is very good of course, but the few bits I've seen just don't strike me on the same level. Perhaps if I get around to watching it in full I might change my mind.
The 10th Anniversary cast is best. Nick Jonas, IMO, was a drag on the 25th Anniversary cast. His songs seemed weak, and Éponine completely out sang him in a song where she's dieing in his arms. He does pull off a competent Empty Chairs At Empty Tables, but other than that, no, he was not good. Michael Ball's return at the end showed how the roll needs to be sung.
Anyway, the musical was great. There were problems, as noted before, Russel Crowe while not bad, was also not good. He sang the role competently, but not on par with his costars. Stars, I thought, was lacking. Not really because of him, but in this case the music. The strings were not there like in the stage musical, that threw the song off for me.
Anne Hathaway, she had a lump in my throat from the first line of I Dreamed A Dreamed to the last. She is a strong candidate for Best Supporting Actress.
Samantha Barks also had me ready to cry over my own remembered unrequited loves as she sang counter point in A Heart Full Of Love. And her On My Own, was her own. I thought I'd never hear it sung better than Lea Salonga, but Samantha gives Lea a run for her money.
Master Of The House was the comedic show stopper that is needed in such a dramatic and heart wrenching musical as this. Sacha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter were magnificent. I asked before, but is it possible to make HBC look ugly? Her she was a thieving scoundrel, but still pretty. Hell in the Harry Potter movies, she was a pretty murdering sociopath.
And finally Hugh Jackman. Brilliant. I was amazed at his Bring Him Home. Usually sung in a falsetto, his was not a true falsetto and it worked. He had me listening to everything he sang.
I did not like how some songs were shortened, like Come To Me and A Little Fall of Rain.
Despite its flaws, and that it is not the stage musical, it is a must see. And a strong contender in all the Lead Actor and Supporting Actress categories come Oscar time. It is also a contender for Best Picture.
I think the 10th cast is one of those groups that just has tremendous talent and really flows well together. That can make a show seem a lot more magical, and having the 17 Valjeans added on was a nice touch too. It's actually rather amusing to me that the Japanese Valjean was Kaga of Iron Chef fame.
I'd probably have to count Colm Wilkinson (Valjean) and Ruthie Henshaw (Fantine) as my personal favorites, but the whole cast is good.
Just saw it Sunday. The singing wasn't even close to the level of the singing in the stage productions but the acting...I was blown away by the acting performances.
The acting just seemed to lessen the impact of the less than perfect singing. Russell Crowe was great as was Jackman, Anne Hathaway (is she capable of a bad performance?) were incredible.
The drama created by the cast was a sight to behold. By the end of the movie there were people sobbing in the theater. I absolutely loved the movie and am very much looking forward to seeing it again.
But can she really hold a candle to... Gollum?!
I think Hathaway incorporated, rather diversely, a sob, a catch, a whisper, a croak and an exclamation into her performance. It was obviously strenuous acting. But was it relying on the music?
The musical interested me in seeing the 1934 version. In it Fantine lost her front teetch. It was underplayed but, whether despite or because of it I found that Fantine more affecting than Hathaway. Even with subtitles.
Hathaway's performance of course isn't bad. But it's of a piece of the musical Les Mis, which in my opinion just isn't a very good moviie. I suppose the last Oscar contender in this vein was Oliver! People grouse about it winning the Oscar, but it was a much stronger film than Les Mis.
Chicago, actually. Winner of the 2002 Academy Award for Best Picture.
As for Anne Hathaway, I'm rooting for her. But I have a longstanding celebrity crush on her and believe she can do no wrong, so I am biased. Were it up to me, Anne Hathaway would get all the Oscars.
I'm biased towards her too. How can you not like her? She's a throw back to the old days of movies. A young, talented, beautiful young lady who, if not this Sunday, will win at least one Oscar in her career. She does have it all, beauty, grace, talent, a beautiful singing voice and if she's as good a dancer as a singer, she could almost be a female Gene Kelly. I say almost, because Gene Kelly is the epitome of the actor/singer/dancer/looker.
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Colorado's economy continues to outperform expectations, spurred on by tax revenue from stock sales, although unemployment remains high, state economists told lawmakers Monday.
The state's tax receipts are expected to be $548.2 million, or 7.1 percent higher this budget year than the prior year, according to Gov. John Hickenlooper's economists. The latest quarterly forecast from state economists touched on familiar trends of past reports: Colorado's economy is outperforming the national economy, but there remains caution because the revenue growth is driven by taxes on one-time stock sales.
"We have clue after clue that what we're dealing with is a volatile revenue stream," said Henry Sobanet, Hickenlooper's budget director.
With the adjusted revenue numbers from December, the state's general fund is expected to be $8.3 billion for the fiscal year that began in July. The general fund now exceeds the pre-Great Recession peak of $7.7 billion in 2007.
The quarterly forecast released Monday afternoon will play a key role in the upcoming debate over the budget, especially as lawmakers debate an overhaul of the state's system to fund schools. Lawmakers typically give final approval to the budget in April.
State legislative economists also delivered a separate forecast to lawmakers Monday with a similar outlook of cautious optimism for the state.
"I believe it is the spring of this recovery. However, know that storms can still happen in the spring," said Natalie Mullis, the legislature's chief economist.
Jason Schrock, the governor's chief economist, said the state's unemployment remains a challenge, even though it has decreased slightly. On Monday, the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment said the state's unemployment rate dropped to 7.3 percent in January from December's 7.5 percent. The national rate is 7.9 percent.
Economists also pointed to uncertainty over federal fiscal policy as a factor for concern, particularly across-the-board cuts in spending that took effect March 1.
Still, economists pointed to many bright spots in the economy, including an improving real-estate market and growth in consumer spending. Schrock also said Colorado benefits from a diverse mix of industries — such as manufacturing, agriculture and energy production — that has helped the state economy perform better than the national economy.
Sobanet said Hickenlooper, a Democrat, has indicated he would like to see the increased revenue go to construction projects and education. But he said there isn't enough to cover the cost of an overhaul of school funding. Lawmakers will debate a bill this session that would change the system and ask voters for an increase of about $1 billion to implement it.


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October 18, 2013 @ 7:30 pm – October 20, 2013 @ 7:30 pm
Waterman Theatre, Tyler Hall
Preview $5 All Seats; Super Saturday (for tickets purchased onine) $10; General Public $12; Oswego State Students $7
Fahrenheit 451 Trailer
Oswego State Theatre Department Presents Fahrenheit 451
…Live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for… – Ray Bradbury
Thursday, October 17 • 7:30 PM (Preview)
Friday, October 18-Saturday, October 19 • 7:30 PM
Friday, October 25-Saturday, October 26 • 7:30 PM
Sunday, October 27 • 2:30 PM
This production of Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury's 1979 stage adaptation of his 1953 novel, presents a dystopian society, addicted to technology, where books are burned. The world of one man is upended when he's drawn to the forbidden: the books that he's been required to destroy.
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On land, albatrosses walk with a waddle and appear to be very clumsy, but in the air, they are among the most graceful of sea birds.
Albatrosses are oceanic birds with very large wing spans, which are about 3.5 metres (11,5 feet). They spend 92% of their lives at sea and come to land only to breed. The most important characteristic of these birds is that they can fly for a very long time without stopping. They perform this difficult task by means of their style of flight.
In order to fly, it is enough for an albatross to open its wings wide open against the wind. In this way, it can fly for hours without flapping its wings at all. The bird does this by extending its wings as wide as possible, and the span of its wings reaches up to 3.5 meters (11,5 feet). This is the largest wing span among bird species.
Making use of ascending air currents and winds, the albatross moves in their direction. It proceeds in zigzags in the wind and passes from the top of one current to another. So, the albatross flies over the sea for hours without flapping its wings. But how can it perform this quite difficult task? What makes this bird so strong?
First of all, a great amount of energy is needed to keep these giant wings steadily wide open. To have a better understanding of the difficult task albatrosses carry out, let's compare albatrosses with humans. It is difficult for a man even to keep his arms open in the air for a brief time. Soon his muscles begin to ache and he lowers his arms. However, albatrosses can fly suspended in the air for hours with their wings wide open.
There is a locking system inside the wing bones of albatrosses that enables them to keep their wings open. By means of this locking system, they don't use any muscular strength. This makes flight much easier for the bird. Thanks to this special system, it can fly without stopping for days, weeks, or even for months expending only a very little amount of energy.
One merely needs to reflect for a moment to grasp that these features could not have come into existence by chance. We see the mercy and compassion of Allah upon these birds, which fly over the seas for long periods. It is Allah Who granted albatrosses all the features they need to stay alive. Allah, Who has power over all things, protects and gives albatrosses all their needs like all other creatures. Allah refers to birds in a verse:
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Paul Gallen sticks his neck out for State of Origin II
Paul Gallen has vowed to ignore the pain of a neck injury and play on.The Blues skipper is still unable to fully move his neck more than a week after leading NSW to victory against Queensland.
Gallen's neck has been a continuing problem for him since he injured it in Cronulla's final game of their 2012 NRL campaign. The injury became worse at the back end of last year's season, but it has become more problematic for Gallen, who has endured multiple "burners" – a nerve injury – in his neck this year, including two against the Wests Tigers.
The injury was aggravated with severe whiplash when Gallen was collected off-guard, after he had passed the ball, by Queensland back-rower Josh Papalii last Wednesday.
Gallen, who spent more than three hours getting transformed to look like Robocop to help launch the movie on DVD on Thursday, said he was confident the injury would not interfere with his Origin preparation.
"It's not career threatening," he said. "It's just something I've got to deal with. The reason I'm not playing this week is probably because of the whiplash. The nerve damage has been there for a long time. It's something I can deal with.
"It was extra sore on this occasion from because of the whiplash.
"We have injections and treatments all the time. That was one of the more unpleasant ones. Just nerve-wracking because of the area it is. They stick it into your nerve and you feel the burning sensation come on until the local [anaesthetic] takes effect."
Gallen had a cortisone injection last Friday, but will miss Cronulla's match against St George Illawarra on Saturday. It continued a run of injuries for him.
He has featured in five games for the Sharks this season after missing a large chunk of the year with an ankle injury.
"I said to club physio – who doesn't have to worry about Origin – 'take Origin out of it, can I play this week?' " Gallen said. "Their answer was that I probably could get through it but it wouldn't be the smartest thing for the health of my neck in the long term.
"That made my decision easier. I don't like missing out on games, especially with the situation we are in at the Sharks. The area that is, being your neck, it's serious. I'm better off getting it right and I'll be 100 per cent for game two and finish off the year of the Sharks."
Gallen renewed his on-field rivalry with Papalii, who again knocked the wind out of his Australian teammate. It was Papalii who first caused Gallen's problems in 2012 with what Gallen described as a "dog shot". The pair struck up a friendship as part of Australia's World Cup winning team last year, but that didn't stop Papalii collecting Gallen again.
"I've had a lot of people say that he has got me," Gallen said. "He has hit me twice in the back.
"If he has it over me he can have that. That's not going to concern me one bit.
"I get on really well with him. Every extra session I did [in Britain] he did with me. There is no problem there at all. That's the reason I haven't blown up about it. I know I called it a dog shot a couple of years ago when the media got me to bite. He is a top bloke.
"It's part of the game. I just get on with it. He is too big [to target], he is 115 kilos. I'm not concerned about personal battles."
Michael Carayannis is a Rugby League Writer for The Sydney Morning Herald
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Blu-ray headlines • Page 2
Dille: Sony to reposition PS3 as "a total entertainment solution"
Sony's Peter Dille has said that the company is repositioning PS3 as the "total entertainment solution". The massive ad campaigns rolling out in September will focus more on the Blu-ray, movie download capabilities, "mums and families," and less on games. "We have been a game company for years and we would never walk away from […]
ASDA drops PS3 80GB price to £249
ASDA's confirmed that it's dropped the price of the 80GB Playstation 3 in the UK down to £249. The supermarket chain is offering the 80GB along with Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines on Blu-ray and Terminator Salvation: The Game as well as a choice of either Ghostbusters or inFamous. A ASDA rep told GI […]
PAIN releasing on Blu-ray this month
PAIN will release on Blu-ray for PS3 "on Wednesday 24 June in Europe, 25 June in Australia and New Zealand, and the UK and Ireland on Friday 26 June for €24.99/£19.99." We know, because it says so on the EU PS Blog. That's it. Amazing. Buy it. For fun, and shit.
Sony had "no other choice" but to include Blu-ray in PS3
PlayStation mega-chief Kaz Hirai told the Guardian at E3 last week that Blu-ray was the only choice for PS3's drive. "Purely from a gaming standpoint there was no other choice for us," he said. "Why? The capacity of the disc. Last year's Metal Gear Solid 4 was pushing 50GB as it was. If it was […]
Watchmen PS3 to release as Blu-ray "game and film hybrid"
Warner's officially announced the multi-format disc versions of the Watchmen games, confirming the PS3 version as a "retail Blu-Ray Hi-Def game and film hybrid". It's out in July alongside the film's director's cut. Both parts of the game will also release for 360 on DVD. Full press release through the link.
FFVII: Advent Children Complete dated for US
Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete will release in the US on June 2, priced $38.96, Kotaku reports. Unlike the Japanese release, however, there won't be a FFXIII demo included. For shame. Still no confirmation on a European date.
Ghostbusters Blu-ray to include making-of game featurette
Sony is to include a making-of featurette of Ghostbusters: The Video Game in the Blu-ray edition of the movie, due to land in stores June 16. Not surprising, since the game and the 25th Anniversary Edition of the movie are slated for release on the same day. Should at least give you something extra to […]
PS3 hardware boss: "Blu-ray is really gaining a lot of traction for us"
SCEA hardware marketing boss John Koller has said that Blu-ray, and the public's perception of the value it brings to PS3, will be a driving factor in increased sales for the machine this year. "We are looking at a general move by the consumer to understanding the complete value of the PS3, inclusive of Blu-ray […]
FFVII Advent Children is still "TBC" for Europe, says Square
Square Enix told VG247 this morning that any European release for Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete is "TBC". The Blu-ray movie – with its sneak preview of Final Fantasy XIII – has now been confirmed for a June launch in the US. It hits Japan, with a playable demo of FFXIII, on April 16.
FF: Advent Children gets US release date
We saw this at the weekend, but it seemed a bit sketchy so we didn't do it. Everyone else seems to think it's real, though, so what the hey. Blu-Ray.com has apparently confirmed Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete for a US release on June 7. Here's what you'll get: "Legacy of FINAL FANTASY VII" […]
Sony: PS3 will always have Blu-ray
Janco's Mike Hickey's prediction that a Blu-ray-less PS3 may be in the works suffered something of a blow today when Sony, unsurprisingly, said that there isn't. "That would pretty much destroy the PS3's backbone," Sony marketing manager Kim Nguyen told SAI. "Our games were built on Blu-ray. Quote that: Blu-ray will always be part of […]
Watch full trailer for Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Gamespot has it. Movie Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete is out in March, and comes with a demo for Final Fantasy XIII. A bundle featuring a "Cloud Black" Limited Edition PS3 will also hit stores. It's only in Japan, kids. Bummer.
Blu-ray disc sales to crest 100 million this year
More than 100 million Blu-ray discs will be sold across the US, Western Europe and Japan this year, research group Futuresource Consulting said today. The group's predicted HD TVs and reductions in Blu-ray player prices will spike interest in the format despite the global recession. "In the USA, Blu-ray has moved from early adopter phase […]
Sony shrugs off mediocre January NPD figures
Peter Dille, Sony's SVP of marketing, has finally commented on the less-than-stellar NPD numbers reported for PlayStation consoles for January. Well, sort of. "The PlayStation brand experienced a record year in sales in 2008 and we have every reason to believe our blockbuster line up combined with PS3's position as the best Blu-ray player and […]
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Recap - Sky Defeat Washington 85-78
The Mystics were burned for 32 points by Sylvia Fowles on Friday as the Sky picked up an 85-78 win at Allstate Arena.
The game was a push (tie) for betting purposes as the final score was identical to the 7 number at most sportsbooks. The game proved to be a winner for OVER bettors based on the closing total of 155.5.
Chicago got 13 points from Tamera Young and another 10 points from Swin Cash. Courtney Vandersloot contributed 9 assists, while Sylvia Fowles cleaned the glass with 15 rebounds.
Washington got 19 points from Matee Ajavon in a losing cause and another 13 points from Monique Currie. Ivory Latta contributed 6 assists for the Mystics, while Michelle Snow had 6 rebounds.
Chicago had a 33-31 advantage in the rebounding department as they won the battle in the paint.
Chicago looks to continue their winning ways next game with a battle against the Fever. The Mystics will aim to get back on the winning track vs Los Angeles.


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Yesterday came and went, and with it were the last (of the
first) round of EB Games/GameStop PlayStation 3 and Wii pre-orders for USA
and Canada. With all the news of the PS3 pre-order fallout,
we decided to check things out first-hand.
Nearly everyone who tried to get a pre-order has a story to
tell, DailyTech staff included.
Editor-in-Chief Kristopher
Kubicki somehow found himself in line at a local GameStop an hour before
opening Friday morning to snag a Wii pre-order. Even with the widespread news
from Nintendo that Wii should be in plenty supply, gamers still waited at
stores before opening time and snatched up all pre-orders within minutes.
DailyTech's Canadian editor
shared a similar experience, except EB Games Canada lumped together
the pre-orders for both new consoles on the same day. EB Games stores that were
not situated in malls opened early at 8:30AM specifically for pre-ordering. We
arrived on the scene at 7:00AM (we would have been there earlier, but there was
news to be done) to find about a dozen gamers standing outside in the cold.
Some had brought their own foldable chairs along with blankets for warmth. Nine
people were there waiting for PS3 with the rest for Wii. The first person for
PS3 was there just before midnight, with the 8th hitting the line by 3:00AM. We
knew ahead of time that most EB Games stores would only be doing 8 pre-orders
for PS3, so we left for another location -- one in a mall that opened at
We were half expecting an even larger group inside the
mall, mainly because it was in a more popular location and gamers didn't have
to wait out in the cold, but we still took our chances. It turned out to be a
wasted effort (except for the comedic value) as we saw well over 50 people by
the store doors.
With nothing else better to do, we returned to the original
'outdoor' location to see what kind of pandemonium there would be at the 8:30AM
opening. The crowd had split into two: a line of 8 for PS3 and a line
of 15 for Wii, which yours truly managed to be the last one for the latter.
While the PS3 line were all composed of young adult males, the Wii line was a
bit more diverse with the addition of females, some of which were buying it for
themselves and others for their children who were in school.
Our experiences were largely uneventful, but we've heard
reports of mall security guards abusing their mall-cop powers by letting select
individuals of their choice into the malls before the doors opened to the
public. Others report extremely positive line-mates stories of sharing
pizza, coffee, McDonald's breakfasts, and basically everything short of
campfire singalongs of Goombaya.
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Scarlett Johansson Seen Kissing New French Beau In New York City
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To promote better student relationships, a broader exchange of intellectual thought, and to foster the general student welfare, all single, full-time undergraduate students under the age of 22 on the first day of classes and classified as dependent as determined by the Mississippi College Office of Financial Aid are required to live in a campus residence hall. Special permission is needed from the Director of Residence Life for a part-time (Below 12 hours) student to live in the residence hall. A dependent student 22 years of age or older may seek a residence other than on-campus or their permanent address. However, doing so will result in a change of institutional scholarship awarded, unless otherwise indicated by the Office of Financial Aid. Since some scholarships are affected by a student's housing, it is the student's responsibility to check with the Office of Financial Aid concerning scholarship status.
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Residence Appeal
Exemptions to the above stated requirement may be made by the Residence Life Appeals Committee which is made up of representatives of the Student Affairs and Business Affairs staffs. Any student who feels that circumstances merit an exemption should make a written appeal to the committee. All appeals may be addressed to:
Residence Life Appeals Committee
Deadlines for making such appeals are:
1st Semester - July 15
2nd Semester - December 15
On-Campus Living
All residence hall students are required to have a meal plan (Except College Plaza and University Place). On-Campus Living fees are the combined room and board fees. Should a student withdraw from school or cease to be a residence hall student, the On- Campus Living fee will be refunded as follows:
If a student withdraws during the first week of the semester, only 25% of the room and board fees will be refunded.
For every week after the first week of the semester, the refund drops 2% each week.
Housing Application Fee
New Students: A required $200 non-refundable housing reservation fee is paid online through the housing portal at mc.edu/housingsignup and accompanies the Housing Application.
Residence Hall Contract
Before moving into a residence hall, a student must read and sign the residence hall contract, which is part of the application process in StarRez. The contract and application must be completed before completing the housing application.
Residence Hall Holiday Closing
All campus residence halls (as well as food services) will be closed during regular College recesses as indicated in the College Calendar (Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Spring Break). Special circumstances may necessitate students to remain on campus when the residence halls close for the holidays. Permission must be granted through the Office of Residence Life to remain in the residence halls during these times and applicable fees will be assessed to the student's account. Any personal items needed by a student should be removed prior to closing time as no one will be permitted to enter any residence hall for any reason during holiday periods.
Room Assignments
Before a new student can make a room reservation he/she will need to pay a non-refundable $100.00 housing fee. A student will not be given his/her room assignment or key until after he/she has paid his/her room fee. All room assignments are made by students through the online housing portal at mc.edu/housingsignup. Room assignments are in effect for fall and spring semesters. Room changes will be allowed between semesters for students whose roommates will not be returning to Mississippi College for the spring semester. These room changes must be made in the Office of Residence Life. No room change fee will be assessed if these changes are approved by December. Before moving into a residence hall, a student must read and sign a residence hall inventory form. The inventory must be on file in the Office of Residence Life. Each room is equipped so that two residents would be accommodated. The furnishings provided are: two bed frames and mattresses, two study desks and chairs, and two chests of drawers. Students are required to furnish bed linens, towels, study lamps, and other personal items. Students are expected to keep their rooms clean and neat. Janitorial service is furnished by the College to keep the public areas of the residence halls clean. Negligent or willful destruction of College property will be charged to the student responsible. Damage of property in a room will be charged equally to the occupants of the room when the person directly responsible cannot be identified. Damage to community property such as bathrooms, lobbies, hallways, will be the responsibility of all resident students on the floor of that particular residence hall. Repairs needed are to be reported to mc.edu/repairs.
Apartment housing- Apartments are provided for upperclassmen males and females. All occupants abide by all rules and regulations under the same contract as the rest of the Residence Halls.
Room Changes
Occasionally, it is necessary that a student change rooms. This should only be done after consultation with the Residence Life staff. Please note exception for mid-year room changes noted in Room Assignments section above. If a student moves without a consultation with the Residence LIfe staff, a $50.00 fee would be charged to the student's account.
Room Consolidation
For various reasons throughout an academic year, vacancies are created in the residence halls by departing students. If you find yourself without a roommate for the spring semester, Residence Life would like you to understand your options.
- Move to another room that has an open space (we will provide you with a list of students in the consolidation process)
- Have someone move in with you
- Stay in current room and not pay a private room fee with the understanding that the Residence Life Office has the right ot move someone into your room at any point in the semester.
- If you make it difficult to assign a new student to your open space in the room then you will be charged with a private room fee.
- Pay the private room fee and never receive a roommate.
Checking Out
When a student vacates a residence hall room he/she is expected to remove all personal belongings from the room, to sweep his/her floor, to clean the bathroom (where appropriate), and to turn in his/her key to his/her Resident Assistant or complete Express Check Out. Reasonable assessment charges are made when a student fails to properly clean his/her room. Failure to properly check-out in person with the Resident Assistant or through the Express Check-Out process will result in a $25.00 fine.
Laundry Service in Residence Halls
Residence hall students have unlimited access to washers and dryers during the fall and spring semesters. The washer and dryers are located in individual halls and/or complexes. Suggestions and/or complaints concerning this service should be reported to mc.edu/repairs.
The Residence Life staff works under the supervision of the Director of Residence Life. Each residence hall is supervised by an Area Coordinator or an Assistant Area Coordinator who has a staff of Resident Assistants. The Resident Assistants (RAs) are upper-class students who have gone through an application/interview and training process with the Student Affairs staff and play a vital role in management of the residence halls. In addition to their administrative duties, these students play a vital role in student development.
Guest Rooms
The University has furnished several rooms in the New Men's Rotunda and designated them as guest rooms. These may be reserved for your family or adult friends in the Office of Student Life. The fee is nominal and they are available on a "first come, first serve" basis. Reservations for the guest rooms can be made by contacting the Office of Student Life, Nelson Hall 313, 601-925-3209[WU2] . Mississippi College assumes no responsibility for any injury to any young child visiting in the residence hall.
Guests in the Residence Hall
The University encourages students to consider the residence hall as their "home away from home." Every home occasionally has a guest. However, all overnight guests must register with the Area Coordinator or Assistant Area Coordinator. All guests must be of the same gender as those residing in the residence hall. Residents may have guests in their rooms two (2) nights per month. Longer visits must be approved by the Area Coordinator or Assistant Area Coordinator and Office of Residence Life. Children under the age of eight (8) years are not allowed inside of the Residence Halls at any time with the only exception being special campus wide weekends such as Homecoming. During these specified weekends the child should be accompanied by a parent at all times. . Childcare/Babysitting is not allowed in the residence hall at any time. Residents are personally responsible for the actions and behavior of their guests, which includes adherence to the policies and rules of the university.
Residence Hall Hours
All residence halls require the use of a "card swipe" for entry into the building. Therefore, a student needs to carry his/her ID at all times. Lobby hours for each residence hall will be properly posted.
Courtesy / Quiet Hours
In an effort to allow time for rest and serious academic pursuit, it has been determined by university administration in consultation with students that Quiet Hours are in effect in every residence hall from 10 p.m. until 8 a.m. daily.
Visitation Policy
The lobbies of designated residence hall lobbies are open to visitors of the opposite sex during posted hours each day. Other than those lobbies, all areas of the residence halls are restricted to the gender of that building.
Each semester the Office of Residence Life will plan with the consent of the administration "VISITATION." These are the times when the residence halls are open to visitation by invited guests of the residents. This is supervised by the Residence Life Staff. All students and guests are expected to abide by the visitation policy.
These are the rules for Visitation on the Campus of Mississippi College. Please read each rule carefully. These pertain to College Plaza Apartments as well.
- One entrance will be used for all guests entering the residence hall.
- Students are limited to two visitors only.
- Students and their guest will sign-in and leave a picture ID.
- The student's guest must be escorted AT ALL TIMES while in the building. Host is responsible for all actions of his/her guest.
- All doors must be open, and no individual is allowed to lie on any bed in rooms with guests. There must be adequate lighting in all rooms while hosting guests of the opposite sex. Excessive PDA will not be tolerated.
- Restrooms will be designated for guests of the opposite sex in all residence halls with community restrooms. Residence halls without community restrooms will post information of the closest community restroom facilities. Guests are not allowed to use host's restroom.
- A Residence hall or a hall floor, by MAJORITY vote, may choose not to participate in Visitation. At least 60% of affected residents must participate in the vote. Cancellation requests should be made in writing by at least 5 students at least 72 hours before and a vote taken and decision made 24 hours before scheduled Visitation.
- A resident shall be permitted to entertain guests only with the expressed permission of his/her roommate(s). Permission should be granted to the roommate prior to Visitation start time.
- Non-MC students must be 18 years old or older in order to participate in Visitation.
- Days for visitation will be posted in the residence halls. The times of visitation are from 7 p.m. - 11 p.m. on the days specified, and 6 pm -12 am for College Plaza.
Room Visits
Students are expected to keep their rooms in reasonably neat and clean condition. Occasionally it may become necessary for a member of the Residence Life Staff to ask a student to clean his/her room. It is not rare for administrators and faculty members to visit in the residence halls.
Smoking and Tobacco Policy
Mississippi College is a "Smoke Free" campus. Tobacco use of all forms is also prohibited in residence hall community areas (i.e. lobbies, hallways, and community restrooms).
Recognizing that safety is to a certain extent the responsibility of the entire campus community, students are asked to use good judgment while they are residents of the campus community. All suspicious activity should immediately be reported to Residence Life Staff or the Office of Public Safety. Please refer to the campus emergency procedures published in The Mississippi College Student Handbook and available on the Office of Public Safety website (mc.edu/publicsafety). It is wise to keep your residence hall door locked whenever you are out of the room. For the protection of all residents, the propping open of outside residence hall doors is strictly prohibited. In the event of an emergency, please follow the directions of your Residential Life Staff.
Civil Action
Since college students are members of the social community outside the campus as well as the college community, they are obligated to respect and abide by the laws of society as well as the regulations of the College. The College takes disciplinary action, when necessary, if standards or regulations of the College are violated. When civil laws are violated, the case may be referred to the civil authorities for appropriate action by law.
To possess or discharge fireworks on the Mississippi College campus is a violation of both the University regulations as well as an ordinance of the City of Clinton.
Responsibility for Personal Property
Students at Mississippi College are responsible for the care and safety of personal property which they can bring to campus, including residence halls. Students should mark personal items clearly and appropriately so that their identity is evident, should there be a question. The College does not assume responsibility for the loss or damage to student's property which occurs in college buildings or on college grounds. The student agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the College from any suits, claims, demands or damages whatsoever, resulting from or arising out of the theft of or damage to personal property or injury to the student's person, family or guests which may occur. Therefore, personal property insurance (which could be included in the parent's Homeowner's Insurance Policy) should be considered by residents should there be an interest in doing so.
Stolen Property
In addition to the general rule on theft, items such as highway stop signs, speed limit signs, motel property, and other public or private property which are obviously not the rightful possessions of the individual possessing them will not be permitted to remain in the residence hall. In special cases, letters verifying ownership may be requested.
Disturbance on Campus
In support of the General Rules, disturbances on campus will not be tolerated and any student directly or indirectly involved in any disruptive situation may expect definite disciplinary action. Initiations are expressly forbidden in any College residence hall.
Animals in Residence Halls
No animals are allowed in the residence halls. A student who takes an animal into a residence hall or a resident student who allows an animal to remain in his/her room will be subject to disciplinary action. These regulations do not apply to animals that are designated as personal assistants to those with disabilities.


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Horse Stretching Benefits, Approaches Detailed
Every good athlete knows the benefits of an effective regular stretching routine. But what about your performance horse? Horses are athletes, too, and according to new research, they need that stretching just as much as their human counterparts do.
Proper stretching can increase flexibility and range of motion (ROM), relieve certain kinds of joint and muscle pain, improve performance, and help prevent injuries, according to Ava Frick, DVM, CAC, veterinary medical director at the Animal Fitness Center in Union, Mo., and author of the study.
Muscles and connective tissue naturally tend to stiffen if they are overused or underused, Frick said. "Stiffness can result in injury, lead to inactivity, and eventually speed up the aging process of the musculoskeletal system. To remain supple, the connective tissue and muscles need regular stretching."
–Dr. Ava Frick
Stretching also provides a pain-relieving effect, which might be due to an increased pain threshold or simply because the muscle becomes stronger. Through a regular stretching program, muscles become stronger and thus able to absorb more energy, which also reduces injury. "The more energy muscle can absorb, the more resistant the muscle is to injury," Frick said.
Despite the benefits, a horse cannot be made to stretch on command, she said. It's therefore up to the handlers to take things into their own hands--literally. Through a series of techniques, humans can effectively stretch their horses both before and after a workout by gently pulling in the right places for the right amount of time.
"A regular stretching routine ... is important for all performance horses but is especially important for stalled horses," Frick said, as these horses have few opportunities to bend and flex their joints and muscles independently in an open field.
Warming up of the muscles is necessary in addition to stretching, as it gets the body ready for "vigorous exercise," she said. However, a standard warmup in the saddle, or even pre-workout longeing, does not qualify as proper stretching.
With a regular routine consisting of a few three-to-five-minute exercises several days a week, horses can begin to show improvement in as early as one week, Frick said. If a horse has still shown no improvement after four to six weeks, the program should be altered or even discontinued.
The exercises are designed to help the joints and tissue in the legs, hips, neck, abdomen, and back, according to the study. They should be carried out in a calm area where both the horse and the handler feel relaxed, as the stretching will be more productive if the muscles are not tense.
Each program should be considered individual to each horse, depending on its history and needs, Frick said. A health care professional with experience and specialized training in stretching techniques should evaluate the horse and design the program, which can then be taught to the handler. The goals of the program should be made clear from the beginning. Indicators that the program is working need to be defined, as well as signs--such as lack of improvement or an unwillingness to do the exercises--that the program should be stopped.
The handler will need clear descriptions and photos, as well as hands-on training, to properly perform the stretching techniques, Frick said. Even so, the task is certainly not limited to professionals only. "Anyone can learn to be effective and safe at stretching a horse," she said. "The best administrator would be the owner, handler, or trainer, as they could potentially be with the horse daily and can maintain a consistent program.
"Improved flexibility is achieved when stretching becomes a regular part of the horse's athletic routine," she added.
One common stretching exercise is the Forward Pull-Hind Limb Protraction, in which the handler holds the hind leg just above the pastern and gently pulls forward. This flexes the hip and extends the hamstring while engaging the lower back.
The Quadriceps Extension-Hind Limb Retraction exercise also results in an extension of the hip area by working the quadriceps group of muscles. The handler holds the back leg at the pastern and just above the hock, pulling directly backwards. This also causes the lower back to flex.
In the Rear Leg Crossover stretch, one hind leg is pulled carefully across the underside of the horse past the other leg. This stretches the gluteal muscles and the tensor fascia latae muscles of the thigh while rotating the back to the side of the stretch.
Regardless of the exercise, handlers should keep in mind that the goal is not to stretch as far as you can but to lengthen out the tissues and "put just a little healthy tension on them," Frick said.
By reading about techniques and having some hands-on training, any owner can help their equine athletes benefit from the many advantages of stretching familiar to humans for decades.
The study, " Stretching Exercises for Horses: Are They Effective?" was published in the January 2010 edition of the Journal of Equine Veterinary Science (abstract) and provides the scientific background for Frick's book, Fitness in Motion (2008, The Lyons Press).
About the Author
Christa Lesté-Lasserre, MA
Christa Lesté-Lasserre is a freelance writer based in France. A native of Dallas, Texas, Lesté-Lasserre grew up riding Quarter Horses, Appaloosas, and Shetland Ponies. She holds a master's degree in English, specializing in creative writing, from the University of Mississippi in Oxford and earned a bachelor's in journalism and creative writing with a minor in sciences from Baylor University in Waco, Texas. She currently keeps her two Trakehners at home near Paris. Follow Lesté-Lasserre on Twitter @christalestelas.
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Norfolk businesswoman relocates her beauty business to Great Ellingham
PUBLISHED: 10:14 13 November 2012
A desire to help people feel good about themselves was the main motivation for a Norfolk entrepreneur to start her own beauty and massage business, which she has now moved to Great Ellingham.
Nicola Osbon, 28, from Great Ellingham, has relocated Star Therap-ease to a purpose-built building in the grounds of her parents home in Attleborough Road because she always wanted to start a business of her own.
The former Great Ellingham Primary School and Wymondham College student trained in her field at the Jackie Hamilton School of Therapies in Norwich and initially focussed on the massage side before starting her own business three years ago.
Since then, she has gradually built up the business, moving from Great Ellingham to Norwich and back where she has now had a bespoke log cabin built near to her parents Julie, 54 and Dean, 51.
She said the building was designed to make customers feel relaxed as soon as they arrived in the rural setting, which was the main reason she wanted to be based in Great Ellingham.
She added: "I trained in the beauty business because I wanted to care for people. I wanted them to feel good about themselves."
On Saturday, she celebrated the reopening with an open day giving customers the chance to view the premises, discuss her range of beauty treatments and buy some products.
She added: "I just loved the idea of it being in a rural setting so there is nothing around here to disturb you. The nearest neighbours are 200 yards away at the bottom of the road. It is a proper rural environment."


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U.S. National Parks > Grand Canyon National Park > South Kaibab > Climber's Log
South Kaibab Climber's Log
[ Sign the Climber's Log ]
|Been there.. done that...
Date Climbed: Oct 17, 2007
|more than once.
|Posted Dec 18, 2007 3:52 pm
|The Sublime Abyss
Date Climbed: Jul 11, 1991
|This is the mountain lying down. Flip-flops are not
recommended. I didn't count the miles, I just started
out at Bright Angel Lodge ... and returned the following
day. Saw several desert bighorns - one looked like it had
survived an intense battle. Not recommended in July,
unless you want to lose 5 or 6 pounds.
|Posted Dec 7, 2007 10:04 pm
|South Kaibab
Date Climbed: Oct 17, 2007
|Have to love the rugged Grand Canyon.
|Posted Nov 30, 2007 1:49 pm
|Kaibab-Angel Loop
Date Climbed: Oct 20, 2007
|Took Charles' suggestion and hiked down South Kaibab and up Bright Angel with a group of Outdoors Club friends. We had chilly weather above, and a 90F beach scene at the river, a swing of close to 70 degrees between lunch time and camping that night. Piped water was flowing at two points by the river. The Grand Canyon delivers constant jaw-dropping scenery, even more so than Sierra trails. Amazing.
|Posted Oct 23, 2007 10:31 am
|S. Kaibab to Bright Angel
Date Climbed: Mar 27, 2007
|An awesome day hike. It was 90 degrees when we got down to the river and snowing when we got back up to the top. It was nice to sit at the bar in the El Tovar and look at the snow.
|Posted Jun 29, 2007 12:31 am
|Wandering Sole Images
|Truly Awesome
Date Climbed: Dec 10, 2002
|One of the most spectacular hikes I've done. I didn't think I'd be so overwhelmed by the scale of the Canyon. All around a great day!
|Posted Feb 7, 2007 2:38 am
|South Kaibab Grand Canyon
Date Climbed: Mar 17, 2006
|Second time to Phantom ranch within a week. Came down Bright Angel and went up South Kaibab. Just love the hike after Indian Gradens. Love the Vishnu Schist and the Zoraster Granite. Used Yak track walker as there was ice present at the start of the trail.
|Posted Dec 29, 2006 9:14 pm
Date Climbed: Nov 25, 2006
|Awesome one-day run from the South Rim to the North Rim (via Bright Angel and N Kaibob) and back (via N and S Kaibob). Next time I'll descend the S Kaibob and ascend the Bright Angel as the S Kaibob is a grueling steep nasty climb after a full day out. In total (not counting the 3 mile walk back to Mather Campground (no shuttle service after 7:30pm)) was 46 miles, 11,400' of gain, 17 hours.
|Posted Dec 9, 2006 4:17 am


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While the film "Magical Mystery Tour" is historically regarded as a very early advance into the music video age, it was universally bashed by critics following its first airing in black and white on BBC-TV. The next evening following the program's initial telecast, David Frost invited Paul McCartney to discuss what had already become known as the Beatles' first critical failure.
Q: "The Beatles' music brings unanimous enthusiasm and approval pretty well. Last night their television show did not bring unanimous enthusiasm and approval, and everyone seems to be discussing it today. Here is the man most responsible, Mr. Paul McCartney."
Paul: "Good evening, Mr. Frost."
Q: "Good evening, Mr. McCartney. Why don't you think that the critics liked this film?"
Paul: "I don't know, you know. They just didn't seem to like it. I quite liked it myself."
Q: "Well, I liked it. I didn't see it last night because I was busy, but I saw it today, and I liked it... I mean, with reservations and so on. But why were people so puzzled by it?"
Paul: "I think they thought it was 'bitty,' which it was a bit. You know, but it was supposed to be like that. I think alot of people were looking for a plot, and there wasn't one." (laughs)
Q: "I saw it in color. That sort of helped, too."
Paul: "We thought we could just do a thing... See, we've been waiting for a couple of years now to make another feature film. and we've been asking people to write stories and write plots. But nobody's come up with one, you know. So we thought, 'We'll do something which isn't like that,' which isn't like a real film inasmuch as it's got a story and a beginning and... We'll just do a selection of, you know - We'd put together alot of things that we like the look of, and see what happens. (pause) I liked it. (laughs)
Q: "Did you have a point in mind when you... I mean, some point to get across at all when you did this?"
Paul: "No. See, that's the trouble, seriously. You gotta do everything with a point or an aim, but we tried this one without anything - with no point and no aim. It's like, you know, we make a record album and all the songs don't necessarily have to fit in with each other, you know. They're just a selection of songs. But when you go to make a film, I don't know, you seem to have to have a thread to pull it all together. We thought that doing a mystery tour, you know - it's all happening on a bus to this group of people - would be enough of a thread. and then, calling it a magical mystery tour, which - like a firm advertises a magical mystery tour, and you go on it, and it really is magic - then anything might happen, and it WOULDN'T have a thread if it was magic."
Q: "What's the difference between what you were trying to do here, and say - if you took an EP, which most people have of Magical Mystery Tour - and played that while looking at a kalidescope?"
Paul: "Yeah."
Q: "What's the difference between that and what you did? I mean, was that what you were trying to do?"
Paul: "That's the thing, you know, that there's no real difference between that - except that we had people in the kalidescope, and we had things happening. But, I mean, it's not really all that disconnected. The trouble is, that uhh, if you watch it a second time it does grow on you. and this is one thing we forgot, because when you make a record - alot of people listen to our records and say, 'Well, I don't like that one,' you know. But the second time 'round they say, 'Not bad.' and after a few plays they say..."
Q: (jokingly) "Well, now the BBC are going to show it seventeen times. Just sign the thing today."
Paul: "Yeah. (laughs)
Q: "Is the fact that it didn't get across to alot of people - does that fact alter your opinion of it? Do you say, 'Right. It seems to have failed?' Or do you still think it's precisely as good as if people had said it was very good?"
Paul: "Yeah. I think it's as good as I always thought it was. But when we were making it, I think all of us thought, 'This has got a very thin plot. We hope this idea of doing a thing without a plot works, because the one thing we're gonna be able to say is - It hasn't got a plot.' But yeah. We thought, 'You don't need a plot. You don't always need one.' Because, like, the things you did today probably didn't have much of a plot."
Q: "Oh, I was plotting all day."
Q: "But no, I can see it. Would you call it a success or a failure today?"
Paul: "Uhh, it's both. You know, it's a Success Failure."
Paul: "You can't say it was a success, you know, 'cuz the papers didn't like it. and that seems to be what people read to find out what's a success. But I think it's alright. I think the next one will be alot better, and it will have a fat plot... as opposed to a thin plot."
Q: "But, I mean, what is success then? How would you define that?"
Paul: "I don't know. I wouldn't try. I suppose, you know - I don't know how many people liked it who saw it."
Q: "How many people here liked it?"
Paul: (judging the show of hands) "There's a few, you know. It wasn't much of a success!" (laughs)
Q: "They like YOU much more than they liked IT, you see. (to the audience) But I mean, you better watch it again and again on BBC."
Paul: (jokingly) "Seventeen times."
Q: "Can it be a success when people don't like it?"
Paul: "It obviously matters. If this morning, we'd awoke to find fantastic reviews then we would have all said, 'It's a success.' and I wouldn't have been on tonight, David."
Q: (laughs)
Paul: "But it doesn't matter all that much, 'cuz people said about two of our records, like - 'Strawberry Fields' and 'I Am The Walrus' to name but two. They said, 'Those are terrible,' you know, 'You can't talk about Let-Your-Knickers-Down on telly. You can't do it.'"
Paul: "But you can, you know. I just done it!"
Paul: "and it's alright, you know. Because, in about a year or two, these things that didn't look like successes will look a bit more like successes... you know, as people get into that kind of thing."
Q: "You said today, somewhere, that if this first film that you made yourselves had been a rave, then there wouldn't have been a point in doing any more. What did you mean?"
Paul: "There would have been a point, but it wouldn't have been as much of a challenge to do the next one. At least now we know that we've got not all that much to live up to. (laughs)
Q: "How often do you have a message, actually? Do you often say, 'I hope a point gets across to people out there'?"
Paul: "Umm, no. I never say that. But everything has a message - but you can't just pick out one little thing and say, 'Is that their message.' You know, everything we do is never intended to have a great deep message - But it has. Like everything you do, like everything everybody does."
Q: "Like when John and George were talking about the Maharishi, they were saying that the main sort of point of his massage was 'Know thy self,' and so on. Is that what you..."
Paul: "It's got to be... It's the only point in anything anybody does ever, if you just get to know what it is you're doing. We don't do it deliberately - like 'Okay, we gotta get this message over in our songs.' We just do songs. But if you ask the question about the message, I think there is one there. I still don't know what it is."
Q: "It's there, but you don't know what it is."
Paul: "But I'm trying." (laughs)
Q: "By the seventeenth time..."
Paul: (jokingly) "...I should know. Yeah."
Q: "When you approach something like this, do you all equally feel the same sort of thing, like - do you all have a sort of kinship of feeling about the Maharishi? Or about the approach to this film, for instance? Or do you all not?"
Paul: "No. Like any four people it varies. We don't all exactly feel the same thing. It's pretty near though, that's why we've kept going as we have, you know. Because we happen to be pals, so we've got nearly the same kind of attitudes about most things."
Q: "How do you catagorize yourself? I mean, people think of Ringo as the clown, and George as the sort of mystic, and John as the rebel. What would you come out as?"
Paul: "Oh. I don't know. (pause) I keep hearing that I am 'The Cute One.'"
Paul: (laughs) "I don't know."
Q: "You've had five years of all this, now... looking at everything from a very special vantage point. Do you, in general, sort of respect the human race more now... having seen it close range in this way for five years?"
Paul: "Yeah. Of course, you know. The human race is fantastic - but what the human race does, I'm not always so keen on that as I used to be."
Q: "How do you mean?"
Paul: "Well, the human race does some fantastic things, and that's another program."
Q: "Well, we'll get it into this one."
Paul: "Okay, well, you know the kind of thing I mean. Before you come into showbiz, you tend to think 'It's great, it's fantastic,' and 'That's my aim in life is to be rich and famous,' and you can't see much more beyond that, you know. But, once you're rich and famous, you start to wonder what it is you're actually doing. It can be disappointing if you suddenly realize that everyone is fighting and everyone is messing it up generally... for themselves, folks. I don't blame ya 'cuz I do it too. But we got to get together on this thing, David."
Q: "What did you decide, when you were rich and famous, was the point of what you were doing?"
Paul: "The point? I can't see a point. I think the point is just to do it to the best of your ability. Do it as best as you can, you know, and to try and help. That's the only point I can see is just to try and help yourself and others. It sounds very christian, and it is."
Q: "What are people doing to 'mess things up'?"
Paul: "For a kickoff, people still believe that thing about 'We gotta fight, because if we don't fight, they'll fight us.' and so everyone keeps the myth of war going. It's a bit silly because they're killing each other off and fighting and shooting. and then, all the little follow-ups to that kind of thought."
Q: "It always strikes me that, while you're associated with all these new movements that come up, or whether people call them Flower Power, or whatever - that YOU particularly tend to become impatient with simplified vague explanations - like the phrase 'Make love not war,' for instance."
Paul: "I don't mind the slogans that come out of it as long as they're good ones, like 'Make love not war.' It is over-simplified, but slogans have to be."
Q: "To what extent do you feel responsible for the effects that you can have on people in the sense that they'll do what you say? I mean, the obvious example is when you say something about LSD or something, people are slightly more likely to do what you say."
Paul: "I don't feel responsible because I'm always a bit suspiscious of people who say they're responsible, becuase they're not really straight ordinary people - it always seems to be a politician getting up and saying 'These boys are responsible for the nations morals.' and he says 'I am, and we'll do our best when we get in if you'll let us.' and when they get in, they don't. and they're not really responsible. People that say they're responsible always cop out on responsiblity. So I don't feel really responsible. But at the same time I don't want to hinder things."
Q: "For instance, when you said the thing - I know it's months old..."
Paul: "No no, these people - they asked me. You know, that was the trouble. They said to me, 'Have you ever had LSD?' and I said, 'Uhh, yes.' and that was it, you know. and it was a big newspaper story, and I was made to look as though I'd said to the whole nation, 'Take LSD,' you know. and I haven't. I just said, 'Yes, I've taken it.' and, uhh, maybe it would've been better if I'd said, 'No, I haven't.' But maybe it would have also been better if they hadn't have asked me."
Q: "Right. and what would you say now to the young people in this audience about drugs?"
Paul: "Don't bother, you know. There's not much point. There's no need for drugs, but theres no need for alot of things. Theres no need for alcohol either, and you know, it goes on and on. You can't just say drugs, because when you say drugs you gotta say 'and also don't drink whiskey,' and you sound like one of these fellas who says it!"
Paul: "and I'm not, you know."
Q: "Is there anything else that, if you ran into some of your contemporaries in Liverpool, is there anything with the fantastically special life you've had in the last five years that you've learned that you could tell them... that they might not realize about?"
Paul: "Umm... (long pause) I don't know, really. There's alot of hints I could offer. I don't know whether they'd take 'em, because I don't think I'd have ever taken 'em. Hints about if you're trying to make money. Alot of people don't realize how easy it is, because alot of people work there, with the boss there, and they're satisfied to do that."
Q: "How is it easy to make money?"
Paul: "Well, YOU know."
Q: (laughs) "But, I mean, I wouldn't have said 'easy.' That's the difference."
Paul: "I think that I always found it difficult to make money when I wasn't being myself. I really found it.... 'cuz I was being the fella in that position - that's what I thought I had to be. But I never realized that, in fact, you want the fella in this position to be himself, and not to say 'Yes, that's jolly good.' You want him to say, 'Well look, I'VE got a good idea for this.'"
Q: "Yeah, but are bosses as lovely as that?"
Paul: "No. and that brings you to good bosses... because they should do the same thing. They don't realize it either."
Q: "The difference is that you and I are in areas like television or music or whatever where there isn't a great organization and a great system, and sort of individual people with ideas that lead to the way for them to express their ideas. But there may not be that in, for instance, the police force or in the garment industry."
Paul: "Yeah, well, okay. I can only speak for my bit of it. I can tell them how to make money in entertainment."
Q: "What about the rest? Anything else other than the money side?"
Paul: "Right now, the only advice is the one that I've always had - to always be me-self."
Q: "and another thing - you don't TAKE advice, do you? I mean, you..."
Paul: "Well, because the advice is often to not be yourself, you know. It's like the show last night. The advice really, if we had taken it, after today's Trib would've been, 'You get a good choreographer, lads. A good director, producer. and get alot of money behind ya, and we'll have 5,000 dancing girls, and we'll have you hanging from a christmas tree. and it'll be great because it'll be...' and it's true, it would have been safe and set and everything. But we thought 'We'll try it our way, and if it doesn't work...' It doesn't matter too much that it wasn't the success that we'd hoped, you know, for that reason. Because still, at least we were able to be ourselves. and do what we thought was right."
Q: "and what you think is right, next time, may be different as a result of this experience."
Paul: "Yeah. But that's the only way you can learn, you know. If we'd learned by putting ourselves in someone else's hands and then letting them say, 'We've got to do the vaudeville here, then it isn't us doing it. and that's the point of what we've done. You know, we've always just made records according to how we thought they should have been made, and alot of people said, 'Well, that's not the way they're doing it now.' and we said, "We'll carry on and do 'em like this, and see if you like 'em when you get used to 'em.' and it's worked."
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Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, May 10, 2012, 2:14 PM
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Palo Alto, police union reach tentative deal
Original post made on May 10, 2012
Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, May 10, 2012, 2:14 PM
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 10, 2012 at 3:31 pm
WOW! I like the Police department Cheers,Thumbs up and my hat off to them.
They did the right thing. They know times are tuff they allowed the city to make a few cuts. At the same time they protected what is most important to them. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
a resident of Downtown North
on May 10, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Indeed Dano O, and from following the proceedings the past few years the police union also deferred their previously negotiated and approved pay increase which they ultimately lost as part of this agreement. They have also eliminated several positions at levels from management on down. Most recently they have taken steps to eliminate their specialized traffic team, as well as other specialty positions. Currently the department is operating with approximately 15-20% less officers than they had a decade ago.
The police union seems to have taken a highly cooperative position through this negotiation process. They have never negotiated in bad faith or threatened the city with bond measures to prevent this much needed compromise. Ironically through all this, they continue to do an outstanding job overall without any sign of a much needed public safety building in the works. The current facility is sorely in need of replacement. I also wish to applaud the fine men and women that comprise our police department. Much thanks and respect.
a resident of another community
on May 10, 2012 at 10:55 pm
I applaud the PD as well for doing the right thing...now only if ghd public safety unions in other cities would follow suite...
a resident of Southgate
on May 11, 2012 at 4:32 pm
they still have falsely arrested people based on race. that is a crime that they get away with. crimes that should be brought to trial and witnesses believed .
a resident of Professorville
on May 11, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Well since they legally can't officially or formally or outright strike per se AND now no binding arbitration...
They are probably just laying low and waiting for the political landscape to change in a few years.
But no one should delude themselves that the police officers aren't pretty bitter about all this. I've talked to several. I asked how Officer Brown was doing and got a "she got out in time before all this is coming down".
Hey maybe some of your bright Silicone Valley Heads could suggest we replace the cops with robots (like janitors)? Oh year that was RoboCop
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 12, 2012 at 11:39 am
so long to one of the best police depts. in the bay area. Thanks again to the Keene and Klein circus for dismantling an efficient organization.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 12, 2012 at 5:06 pm
> But no one should delude themselves that the police
> officers aren't pretty bitter about all this
And just what do the Palo Alto Police have to be "bitter" about? These people are incredibly well paid. They have pensions that will make them multi-millionaires when they retire--is they are not already multi-millionaires by the time they retire. There is no requirement for a college degree. This is a safe town. There are no gangs, "drive-by" shootings, and very few violent crimes. The number of murders is generally 0, with 3 being pretty much the high number-which rarely happens. The general crime rates have come down in Palo Alto over the past twenty years--without any specific actions on the part of the police. The closure rates for property crimes have been historically low--about 15%. The police have gone out of their way to be non-transparent, so it's pretty difficult to know what they do.
During the past decade, the police have received 5.5% raises many years. This is the highest pay increase of any bargaining unit of the City. Occasionally an officer is hurt, but the details of these injuries are generally not made public, unless the officer is at fault and ends up crashing a cruiser, or motor-cycle, and the event makes the front page of a local paper.
No officers have been killed in the line-of-duty for a very long time. The last officer shot himself at the weapons range.
So -- what do these "gentlemen" have to be "bitter" about?
a resident of Professorville
on May 12, 2012 at 10:04 pm
What do they have to be bitter about you ask.
Quite simply that they are identified as the public servants of YOU and yours among their fellows.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm
> Quite simply that they are identified as the public
> servants of YOU and yours among their fellows.
This makes no sense at all.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 12, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Wondering, #1, the idea that someone is your servant is the problem.
We have low crime BECAUSE of our police department.
What kind of community do we have if there is the blatant hostility that your comments demonstrate? The community only knows as much as they are told by Klein and Keene.
The newspapers and individuals like you expound negative ideas about employees who dedicate themselves to doing great work in understaffed conditions.
Why would anyone want to work in a city that hails Jim Keene and Larry Klein as their leaders? Where as an employee you are treated without respect and worse than a servant.
Congratulations to Jim and Larry - you may succeed by promoting policies that further destroy community. And further instill hateful commentary on employees - what better way to reduce costs? - It's easier than having the League of Cities joining together and doing the work to address California's healthcare costs.
a resident of Professorville
on May 13, 2012 at 12:36 am
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a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 13, 2012 at 7:42 am
Noun Ea Mus: so offensive. I wonder how the family of the officers feel hearing someone state "We aren't getting our money's worth" in regards to officers being killed. So sad that you feel taxpayers deserve to have the blood of those who protect us spilled on the streets. Granted it maybe a joke but it is really inappropriate.
News flash Wondering and Noun, just because an officer has not been killed in the line of duty does not mean it will not or cannot happen. As we have seen in the news officers are killed at random in cities all over the country. PA officers are no different. They risk their lives every time they put on a uniform and step out into the public. A routine traffic stop can become deadly in a heartbeat.
As far as
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 13, 2012 at 7:47 am
> We have low crime BECAUSE of our police department.
This is just silly. The crime rates for all of the Bay Area are pretty low, and have been declining for at least two decades. In fact, San Jose has some lower crime rates than Palo Alto—primarily in the area of property crimes.
The police do not stop crime—at lease here in Palo Alto. This is a high-income community where people don't commit street crimes, at least. Maybe there are "Bankstetrs" operating here, but the Palo Alto police will not be involved in stopping these characters.
There is no doubt that some crimes are stopped by attentive police who pull over cars moving around "suspiciously". But how would anyone know how much "crime" has been avoided by this sort of police presence/activity? (And remember, the last Police Chief got sacked because she said the police were going to stop people who looked "suspicious" [or words to that effect]. This became a battle cry for "No Racial Profiling'—even though the people involved in property crimes are generally not from Palo Alto, and often are non-white.)
Sorry .. this is a low crime town, in large part, because Palo Alto residents don't commit very many crimes (at least in their home town).
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 13, 2012 at 7:54 am
> A routine traffic stop can become deadly in a heartbeat.
That's true, as was the case a couple of years ago up in Oakland when a fellow shot and killed two police officers who pulled him over for a traffic stop, and then killed two more police officers once he sequestered himself in a nearby apartment complex.
However, the number of police killed in the line-of-duty is very low (generally less than 150 a year, if memory serves). It's much more dangerous to be a logger, or a crewman on fishing trawlers (according to the BLS).
Police officers are not bound to this job for life. This is not "Hadrian's Rome". They are free to seek another occupation any time they choose. If this danger is too great, then staying on the job makes one wonder about their mental capacity for rational choice.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 13, 2012 at 9:01 am
Wondering you are wrong on your numbers. Last year the rate increased and was near 200 deaths.The Oakland incident you speka of was more recent then a couple years. As far as PA being a safe city with citizens who do not committ crime you are right. Except there is one problem, PA has people from all over come into the city. Did you forget that the largest drug bust in US history occurred because the two criminals committeed a crime in PA? People from EPA and other high crime cities come over to the city all the time. Being a police officer carries more risk then just being shot. You obvioulsy have issues with the police but try to take your bais out of it and see that there are more good officers than bad ones. We just do not hear about it because good guys do not make for good news stories. Finally to toss the risk factor aside is insulting. The fcat that it is there and these men and women are willing to take a job that you and I would not should be commended. If there were no police who would you call to protect you from criminals?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 13, 2012 at 9:45 am
Police jobs and Firefighter jobs in Palo Alto are surely highly sought after. How many of us can retire at 50 or 55 with a guaranteed payout 3% per year of service? A cop from age 25 gets 90% of his salary at the ripe young age of 55?? With life expectancies, this is simply unsustainable.
It's a golden trough, ask any retired cop, young by today's standard living the high life and pulling down more money in their second career as "consultant" or real estate agent.
Public servants? Yes. But... nobody's forcing them to take the job, and plenty more would be willing to drive a cruiser for plenty le$$.
a resident of Community Center
on May 13, 2012 at 10:36 am
If Police Jobs in Palo Alto are highly sought after how come they have 14 openings and can't fill them. You have no idea what you are talking about, obviously!
a resident of Barron Park
on May 13, 2012 at 11:06 am
Seriously, to prop 13 home owners on fixed income retirees - why not ask the hard questions?
The facts are not shared with the community.
The actual costs and needed wage are not shared,
What % of retiree income does the city pay during retirement?
Why won't the League of Cities band together to address healthcare costs?
Why can't the police department fill positions?
What do we actually fully pay for city services like recreation, theatre, zoo, and parks?
That includes facilities, employee wage and benefits, upkeep, and outreach.
What is the manager to employee ratio?
Why do we continue to hire more top level management employees 130,000 - 180,000 without objection from the public?
a resident of Professorville
on May 13, 2012 at 11:22 am
My previous post was removed yet some people's responses left up.
It was basically a joke. If you feel in bad taste then realize it was based on my deep seated disgust with the previous poster saying "No officers have been killed in the line-of-duty for a very long time."
I then suggested we pimp out our police officers for gladiatorial combat to both raise money and "get our money's worth". It was meant as pure sarcasm, but close to that the fact that we have a bit of the same Roman Patrician spirit quite alive among some of our anti-union and city worker citizens.
I suspect that any police officer (or their family members) would also feel my same ire and appreciate the twist I provided.
For the record.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm
> your numbers are wrong ..
Web Link
According to preliminary data from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, 173 federal, state and local law enforcement officers were killed in 2011, up from 153 in 2010.
This fatality number contains law enforcement fatalities at all levels of government, which includes ICE, Border Control, FBI and State Troopers. Given this diversity, it would be good to get the breakdown by governmental division.
At any rate, the numbers provided by this well-known pro-police web-site are in the 150-175 range for 2011. It would take some work, but if's likely that this 150 (+/- 10%) number will likely prove true over an extended period of time.
But how many people are killed by the police? That's a hard number to find, since it seems that the government does not collect that number:
Web Link
The following web-site is a little anti-police, but does seem to have some interesting numbers:
Web Link
(BTW—to suggest that when a single number of a set is different than the average of a set demonstrates either a lack of basic numeracy, or the act of some sort of troll—trying to pass off disinformation as facts.)
a resident of Professorville
on May 14, 2012 at 7:10 am
Wondering, you are incredibly wrong. The last officer killed, Theodore Brassinga, did not shot himself at the range. Another officer shot from another agency accidentally shot him in the chest.
Please get your facts straight before disparaging an officer's ultimate sacrifice.
Oh, and Mouse, there is no guarantee of the 3 @ 50 you describe, even though the officers were promised that benefit...that's the whole point of the concession issues. The City makes promises and then takes them away.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 14, 2012 at 7:56 am
> Another officer shot from another agency accidentally shot
> him in the chest.
It's been a long time since this happened. It was maybe the mid 1980s? The post stated that he was killed on the weapons's range. That seems to be true. If it was another officer that killed him, that part of the post is incorrect, and I stand corrected. However, the point of the post is that this valid death in the line-of-duty did not happen while the officer (and as I remember he was a Reserve Officer) was actually on the street, or was he killed at the hands of a "criminal". (Many police and fire fighter deaths end up being the result of traffic accidents, and heart attacks, not "shoot outs".)
Perhaps if the Police were to keep this sort of information on its web-site, then we could refresh our memories from time-to-time. There are plaques recognizing these officers in the police area of City Hall, but can you point to anything on-line that provides the names, dates, and situations of the officers killed in the line-of-duty?
> Please get your facts straight before disparaging
> an officer's ultimate sacrifice.
That was not my intent. Your use of the word "disparaging" causes one to wonder if you should be involved in discussions that seem to evoke emotional responses from yourself, rather than rational ones.
> there is no guarantee of the 3 @ 50
To pursue this a bit. The on-going problem of public sector pensions bankrupting America is the issue here. This problem of over-compensating police officers has been in the public's eye for almost a decade now, but has only been fully recognized since the 2008 meltdown. The "3%-per-year@50" means that the initial pension payouts are 90% of the last years' salaries. In some places, unused sick leave has been added into the equation that determines the initial pension payout. Then, with COLAs, the pension grows to the point that it's possible that downstream the retiree will be drawing twice the salary he/she was drawing when they retired. The current system also does not stop at 30 years. The pension accrual continues after 30 years, so that officers (or fire fighters) who are employed for more than 30 years can start their pensions at more than 100% of their salary when they retired. If, for instance, an officer were to serve 45 years, then his initial pension payout would be 135% of his exit salary.
Whether or not governments can "downsize" pensions that have been awarded is the issue. Since the general sense is that pensions are contracts, and contracts can not be changed without the consent of both parties, then this area is abuzz with theories on what governments can/can not do.
The two-tiered approach is only a band-aid, because no one can predict the future, and even with the lower pension obligations of the low-tiered pensions, the costs to government vs the value of the services of those employed could still prove too expensive downstream.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 14, 2012 at 9:26 am
Wondering, go to the Officer Down Memorial Page at www.odmp.org. That website lists the "names, dates, and situations" of all 19,000+ law enforcement officers who have been killed in the line of duty, including three officers from the Palo Alto Police Department.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 14, 2012 at 9:42 am
> Officer Down Memorial Page at www.odmp.org.
Thanks for the info. Will add it to my list of useful web-sites.
However, the question that I was posing was if these officers were remembered on the Palo Alto police web-site? Is there even a link to the officer down web-site? Given how inexpensive adding a web-page is, why isn't there an "In Memoriam" page on the Palo Alto web-site?
a resident of Downtown North
on May 15, 2012 at 10:44 am
Some things I have learned over my many years, and which I believe to be true. Often time the most critical are the least informed. Additionally, those criticizing the honorable and courageous would either be incapable or unwilling to take on the task themselves. To the men and women of Palo Alto PD, and officers everywhere, thank you for what you do.
a resident of Barron Park
on May 15, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The facts are not shared with the community:
The actual costs and needed wage are not shared,
What % of retiree income does the city pay during retirement?
Why won't the League of Cities band together to address healthcare costs?
Why can't the police department fill positions?
What do we actually fully pay for city services like recreation, theatre, playing fields, zoo, and parks? That includes facilities, employee wage and benefits, upkeep, and outreach.
What is the manager to employee ratio?
Why is there no succession planning so retired managers return to their same jobs these past three years?
Why are some manager(s) reemployed after retirement to double dip?
What is the manager to employee ratio?
Why do we continue to hire more top level management employees 130,000 - 180,000 without objection from the public?
a resident of another community
on May 19, 2012 at 6:25 am
Wondering. Nobody retires with more than 100% from any agency. If somebody gets 3% at 50 and they work 35 years, those last 5 years don't mean 105% at retirement. It means 5% at retirement and those 5 years are pension funds donated back to the agency. Sick leave does not compute into retirement unless it is used as time credited prior to retirement. Basically an officer with 6 months of sick leave on the books could count that time as time worked, not come into work, PRIOR to retiring. Vacation is paid out as one time cash. It doesn't add into the highest year's salary. Besides, the vacation was earned. If it wasn't used, it's already a liability on the ledger.
Violent encounters for officers are up over the past 3 years. Check the FBI stats if you don't believe me.
To those that say Palo Alto doesn't have crime simply because it's Palo Alto, then go vote a measure to abolish the police department and have citizen patrols. Then investigate your own burglaries, car thefts, date rapes, spousal abuse cases, suicides, drunken assaults, etc. Interrogate your own suspects - but be sure you don't screw up Miranda and other rights. Make sure your transparent and record every step you take so that you can be scrutinized later by the citizens, city and press. Those crimes all horrible things to have to observe and delve into, especially if you're seconded guess every step. So getting compensated for them is a fair trade off.
To those that say there are many who would do the job for far less $$$, then step up and put in your application. The background check is rigorous. Hopefully, you've lived your life on the up and up since you were a teen. But if the apps aren't coming in, then ask yourself why not?


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Mason has one of those personalities that not only fills up the room, but entertains you to no end. When she's not cracking a joke, you kind of wonder if something's wrong! She has been an on-air personality at MOViN 92.5 since 2007, and continues to get us all through that early evening traffic Monday through Friday. Mason has a knack for decorating, cracking sarcastic jokes and having a good time.
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I first heared of children being trained to kill (children under 10yoa) when my father turned on cnn.com and clicked on some video that showd this kind of training. I wan't to know what future these countries are hoping for if their children are growing up believing that they should fly a plane into some big US building.
I've also have seen this same types of reports in Time and US News and World Report magazine.
I personally think that this is stupid and that someone should step in, possibly america. I know that some poeple may and will disagree about me saying that this should stop but there should be a bit of controll about what children around the world learn.


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