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Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by urban, Oct 7, 2012.
I will be able to concede the possibility to have federer in the first tier if that is the price...
That is good to know. :lol: It really is a shame that no one will/can upload that match.
So, in Laver's last year as an amateur in 1962, he had a win-loss record of 167-15, won all 4 majors, and won 22 tournaments overall.
Of course, Emmo was playing with a broken foot after running into a post at Wimbledon, and Laver's toughest match at Wimbledon was against Santana.
It's interesting how Emerson has a 12-3 win-loss record in major finals, and that all 3 of the losses were to Laver in 1962.
Just to be clear....we are discussing singles matches, exclusive of doubles.
At Forest Hills, Emmo was returning after a layoff due to a broken foot.
Wasn't it Emerson himself who coined the phrase "if you start the match, you're fit to play"?
Brave words, but not reality.
What he meant was, don't complain if you insist on playing.
That doesn't exclude tennis analysts from investigating the health and injuries of players as explanatory factors.
Emerson's sentiment is correct. Injuries or not, the result is fair either way.
The result may be fair, but does not tell us much.
Ideally, what we want is to have both players healthy and playing their best. This tells us something about the relative merits of the players.
Of course. Ideally, we want every player 100% fit, but that's not always possible.
And the results have to be considered with that in mind.
No, the results are the results. No excuses. Explanations are okay, but not excuses.
Yes, the point is to evaluate the results.
Yes, Emerson was injured at Wimbledon in '62, and if he had remained healthy the likelihood is that he would have lost all 4 majors finals in '62 to Laver. Up to the time of that injury, Laver had taken 11 of their last 13 matches, including a straight-set wins at Queens Club.
After Queens Club both Emerson and McKinley said that Laver was a much better player than he had been in '61.
Who do you think was the best amateur player of 1961, krosero? Emerson or Laver? I went for Emerson narrowly, because of his 2 majors, but Laver has a strong case too.
this article is hilarious.
It reeks of bias.
Alan Trengrove might have a very decorated career documenting tennis in various forms...but this if intended to be a serious piece doesnt really add to it.
Only true fanboys of the bygone eras of tennis would think its well written and unbiased.
I really can't say, I've never looked at that year in depth.
And Emmo was a much better player in 1964 than 1962.
Santana was a better player in 1965 and 1966 than in 1962.
The reality is that the amateurs made more money for themselves and the administrators.
hoad's activity
Hoad played a lot of tennis in 1958 and 1959 because he was part of the world championship series of head to head tours. sedgeman did not play much tennis in '57 and '58 because he was not part of the head to head tours. The structure of the tour chaned in early 1960s. From july 1961 the tour was bsased on tournaments not head to head tours because Trabert was in charge rather than Kramer. Hoad was a full-time tournament player and played all thsat was available to him. He played as much as Rosewall, who was the number one player for most of the period of july 1961 to the end of 1964. Hoad played more tournaments than rosewall in '61 and '62, slightly less in'63 and about the same in '64. Hoad 's least active year in the first half of the 60s was 1960 because there were fewer tournaments to play. His most active was '64 when there lots to play.
Actually, there was more tournament play in 1959, when Ampol and Qantas were sponsors of the tour. And a 14-tournament series designed to determine the world #1 (no such series existed in 1960, 1961, 1962), with points awarded according to finishes, and a bonus money pool.
This 1959 series pre-figured the later Grand Prix circuit and Masters series, both also arranged by Kramer.
Dan, 1964 had as many tournaments as 1959 had.
Bobby, I was meaning to ask you, how many matches EXCLUDING DOUBLES did Laver play in 1962?
Yes, 1964 was a full year of tournament play, but I am not sure that there was an organized CHAMPIONSHIP based on tournament results. If so, there would be no controversy about who was number one in 1964.
Dan, Laver won 167 out of 182 matches in singles in 1962.
In 1964 there was an organized championship based on tournament (probably 14 events)results. Buchholz wrote about the series in World tennis. That's also the reason why I still rank the winner of the series, Rosewall first for 1964 tied with Laver who had the huge hth and won two majors.
Sounds good.
The organised series consisted of 19 tournaments in 1964 more than 1959. Laver ended up playing 28 tournaments more than hoad's sixteen in 1959. I regard laver as clearly no1 in 1964. Overall he won 11 tournaments compared to Rosewall's 10. Laver won 2 major to rosewall's one. In the head to head he crushed rosewall 15-4. Laver's win percentage was 74% compared to Rosewall's 69%. Laver is ahead in all categories a clear winner.
Rosewall's win in the point series is based only on a proprtion of the overall tournaments and play. Furthermore it gave no extra points to pro majors. World rankings are based on total overall play not a proportion of overall play. The organised series should be disregarded as a measure of world rankings.
When you have an "organized" series, the constituent tournaments have extra weight and count towards bonus money (as in 1959, and today).
Clearly, Hoad faced tougher opposition than Laver (in 1964) in 1959, yet still won 70% of his championship tour matches (there were two championship tours), 76 wins and 33 losses. Hoad played almost 400 matches in his first 2 1/2 years as a pro.
There were no extra points awarded for winning the Forest Hills Tournament of Champions, by far the most prestigious event of the year, where he had to beat the number two and three players on the Ampol tour, Gonzales and Rosewall.
And, yes, Hoad's money winnings from July 1957 to January 1, 1960 (the final match of the 1959 tour) exceeded Laver's winnings from 1963 to 1965.
jeffrey, I clearly contradict you that Laver is the clear No.1 for 1964. I also doubt that the series included 19 tournaments. You can't consider all tourneys you find in Joe's book. After the series Butch Buchholz clearly wrote in World Tennis that "Rosewall (again) won the tour". All players had known at the year's start that the official tournament tour was the only way to determine the world' best. Nothing else is as clear as this....
I still rank Rosewall and Laver equally for 1964.
Rosewall also won the World's Heavyweight Championship at Johannesburg against Laver.
Tough to call, but I also have Laver by a nose in 1964.
hoodjem, If you and others put away one of Rosewall's feats (winner of the 1964 tour) it's no wonder that Muscles is mostly ranked far behind Laver and Gonzalez. The same with Rosewall's No. 1 place in 1970 (ex aequo with Laver and Newcombe).
It's time to give Muscles his due credit...
World rankings are based on total play; the organised series did consist of 19 tournaments(I have counted up Rosewall's 78 points) but that did not cover all 31 tournaments played in 1964. The series is faulty also because it gave no extra points to the pro majors. Just because the pro tour organises a serires does not mean we abandon standard world rankings procedures. Laver was ahead on all the standard measures of world ranings. He won more tournaments; he won more majors; he crushed rosewall 15-4 in the head to head. Just being ahead in two of these categories meand you desreve the no1; being ahead in all three means laver is a certainty. laver also had a superior win loss percentage of 74.8% compared to Rosewall's 69.5%. Just because Rosewall won one best of five set match in south africa in no way compensates for Laver's 15 wins which included 2 best of 5 set wins.
I only counted 14 tournaments.
The No.1 player of the pros (and therefore of the world) was every year determinated by who won the world tour (world series). That's tennis history. By the way, I was one of the first ones who ranked Laver tied No.1 with Rosewall for 1964 while most or all sources had only Rosewall at No.1...
In 1970 Laver won just secondary events
Newcombe was the dominant player for a match but "only" won at Wimbly
Rosewall won Forest Hills and lost a classic five set final at London
Small but firm edge for muscles as the Number one player that yr
I am a great admirer of Muscles. (I believe that his incredible longevity at the top of the game will never be duplicated.)
I do give him his due credit. I also do think that in 1964 Laver just edged him out as the top player for that year.
kiki, I'm glad that you rank Rosewall No. 1 for 1970 but I must say that Laver won many rather important events. Thus I give him a tied No.1.
I also rank Newcombe Co.-No.1 because he won the most important tournament and reached SF of Forest Hills.
Interesting that you write that Newcombe was a dominant player for a match because an in shape Newcombe in my opinion for a BIG MATCH would be one of my top choices for an important match. Newk would be a danger to beat anyone on any surface if he was in shape in an important match during his peak years.
A reasonable ranking but I must add that I do believe that in actual playing strength I believe Laver was still the top player.
It gets tricky in the early 1970's.
Sure in a 3 or 4 round event, or challenge match, Laver was clearly #1 in those years, but in the big one, Wimbledon, Newk was clearly number one, and should probably get the number one unofficially.
Newk once said that tennis should be judged by the majors, because STAMINA was an important aspect of tennis dominance, and seven rounds best-of-five sets was the standard. I believe that even the US Open lowered its standards for a while, accepting best-of-three sets in early rounds for a few years. This was an advantage for the top players.
Yes Newcombe never lost a five setter in an important event except to doubles mate Roche...and Jan Kodes
Laver won everything but the majors coming off his best season ever
Imagine Lakers winning the ring and next year picking N1 in the draft
Early 70 are not talked so much here but it is just ad tough as late 50
Newcombe,Ashe,Laver,Rosewall,Roche,Nastase,Smith,Okker,Gimeno,Santana,Lutz and of course Kodes
Better even than Gonzales,Hoad,Trabert,Segura,Sedgman,Olmedo,Anderson,Cooper and Rosewall which is to say a lot
I don't see it.
For one thing, Rosewall was younger and better in the late 1950's.
Laver was beginning (at 32) to show age.
Really, the prime-age stars are Newcombe, Ashe, Roche, Nastase, Smith, Okker, Kodes. No one here to challenge the Gonzales or Hoad of the late fifties..
Deeper than 50 a top
The top 15 of the early 70 is the best IMO
Perfect mixture of depth and to
1970 Laver could beat 1959 Hoad and 1972 Nastase could also beat 1959 Gonzales
We will never know for sure, but the top EIGHT of 1959 looks better than the top eight of 1971, including a resume of titles won.
Laver at his best (not 1970, but about 1967) would not beat a 1959 Hoad, he could not match the power, and Nastase would crack apart in a tough match with Gonzales (there is no comparison with the serves).
Kodes never beat Newcombe in a five-setter. He actually lost three times to Newk in five-set matches: at Rome and RG in '69 and in the '73 USO final: http://www.itftennis.com/ProCircuit...result.aspx?Player1=10002376&Player2=10002309
Newk did lose five-setters to Roche, at 69 AO and 69 USO. He also lost five-setters at 1968 Wimbledon (to Ashe), 1969 French (to Okker), and 1972 AO (to Mal Anderson 9-7 in the fifth).
And he lost at the 1970 AO to Ralston in a four-set match that went to 93 games.
In some ways it is an advantage but over the course of five sets there are generally fewer upsets because it's harder for an inferior player to win three sets than two over a better player.
Not sure about that. Lobb does have a point that Laver was declining and the eternally young Rosewall was actually going down a bit also. Ancient Pancho Gonzalez could be in that group also and Jimmy Connors became a top force in 1973 so he could be added there also.
In the late 1950's Gonzalez, Rosewall, Hoad, Sedgman and Segura were particularly strong players, especially the top four. But I'll give you this, the early 1970's were pretty incredible and you could be correct.
In 1975 they had Connors, Ashe, Borg, Orantes, Rosewall, Laver, Tanner, Vilas so that's not bad either. Newcombe was still around but pass his best despite winning the Australian.
Peak Nastase can match anybody
While Nasty is much better than Pancho on clay Pancho is better indoors and maybe grass but by a less difference
Laver was mentaly stronger than Hoad
By early 70 I mean 70-74 before the 1974 revolution took over
It is pre golden era and we can also assimilate 68 and 69 since it is homogeneous
So 68 to 73 is pre golden, 74 to 89 is golden and 90 to 95 is post golden, at least O
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Double Olympic champion and pole vault record holder Yelena Isinbayeva was named the head of the main athletes' village of the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi on Friday.
"We have chosen Yelena Isinbayeva to be the mayor of the athletes' village in the coastal cluster," Sochi 2014 chief Dmitry Chernyshenko told reporters following a board meeting of the Russian Olympic Committee.
"Later we'll name the mayor of the mountain cluster."
Isinbayeva, 30, who won the gold at the 2004 Athens Olympics before repeating the feat four years later in Beijing, was virtually unbeatable between 2003 and 2009.
After suffering a shock defeat at the 2009 world outdoor championships in Berlin, she took a break from the sport before making a comeback last year.
The Russian has said she is planning to stay in the sport until the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro after winning only a bronze medal at this year's Games in London.
The coastal cluster is located in the main Olympic Park near the center of the Russian Black Sea resort.
In addition to the athletes' village, it will house the Olympic stadium, arenas for ice hockey, curling, figure skating and speedskating and the main broadcasting center.
The mountain cluster, located in Krasnaya Polyana some 70 kms from central Sochi, will stage all the Alpine events, cross-country skiing, biathlon, bobsleigh, luge and ski jumping.
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Just replaced the RT with an FJR1300. We'll see how that works out.
Just replaced the RT with an FJR1300. We'll see how that works out.
Kevin Huddy
Tm Pterodactyl MT Outpost
2010 F800GS Full Ohlins package, '04 R1100S Replika
'01 F650GS Wife's bike
Maritime Alps and Vosges 2012
Tuscany and Central Italy 2010
I bought an 05 R1200GS and loved it until the day I sold it about 3 months ago. I bought a slightly used 09 R1200RT and I'm really struggling to like it. I've ridden dirt bikes for 40+ years and I think that's why I loved the ergos of the GS so much. I felt like I sat "on" the GS and I sit "in" the RT if that makes sense. I'm going to give the RT some more time and miles but if I don't fall deeply in love with it then it's time for someone else to enjoy it and I'll pick up a GS or GSA. I only took my GS off road a few times and have already taken my RT down some fire roads. The GS is WAY superior on dirt. (again may just be my years on a dirt bike)
Both models draw huge ownership loyalties. Both are so very popular models, best sellers by BMW. Comparing is like apples and oranges, just not fair as I see it. They are two totally opposite riding styles. You pick one or the other or even maybe both if you have means, but your choice of adventure is in the pudding, so eat well. My choice has been GS/GSAs for decades now and even one KLT1200 thrown in there and some much older Airheads. The GSA1200 I currently keep near to my heart is at 108000m and arguably the best BMW I ever owned in 42 years owning them. Many have been so swell to me. I think you find RT vs GSA a argument within you, that tears at many before you. If ya find yourself passing many adventures and byways and wondering out loud to yourself, just whats over that way on that dirt road or rough road, you've got the answer. If ya don't care and find all your adventure on pavement or very easy short dirt excursions, an RT is perfect. Dig deep, both are indeed BMWs best sellers and offer a ton of enjoyment. I think you want it ALL, the GSA is it, bar none.
OK.. I'll bite.
After renting a R1200GS, I purchased an 06 R1200GSA. I'm 6'2", with a 32" inseam and must say that this bike fits me like a glove. The ergos are just perfect and I can ride it all day long. My best friend has an 08 R1200RT and I've ridden it many times. Fantastic bike. Seems like it has more power than my GSA. Super easy to ride, but like others have said, the GS handles better because of the wide bars. The RT has all the gadgets.. cruise control, electric windshield, TPM, heated seat, etc. etc. The problem for me with the RT, after being on the GSA for years, is that my knees always feel like they are up to my chest. The ergonomics are different and for me, that is the reason i'd never consider getting an RT. I don't think I could ride it all day and be able to walk afterwards..
So, what I'm really trying to say is that both bikes are great for different people and different riding styles... Oh yeah, and I love not having to worry about keeping the GS clean. Hose it down with it's dirty.. no worries about scratches or it looking beautiful... because it never will.. She's an ugly pig and I love her!
Tom - MOA #156706, Hayward, CA
2006 BMW R1200GS Adventure, aka "Gretel"
1983 Honda V65 Magna - SOLD
I have both. I like to ride both. Each has its own pluses and minuses when doing a side by side comparison. Regardless of what anyone else tries to tell you, you need to ride each and pick the one that makes you smile the most. If that doesn't work, buy one of each. Having to choose which BMW to ride each day is not a bad problem to have.
Gear Up and Ride Safe
Jim Rogers
2010 R12GSA aka Heidi
Yorktown, Va
Just like most of us I have some experience riding both of these bikes, and currently I moved from 2012 R1200GSA to 2013 R1200RT.
Besides the obvious I apreciate the lower first gear ratio on the GSA-simply awesome.
From the other hand NOTHING on the road can beat comfort and plushy ride quality of RT.
Love them equally, and in my opinion NON is better than the other - just personal preference.
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Everett, WA
I have owned an RT and a GS, as others have said, different critters. I never warmed up to the RT, too much plastic for me. I liked the GS and almost bought another when shopping for a new bike this spring. Instead I rode a friends R12R and was sold. I put a Scout fairing on it and with hard bags it is as some say, an RT lite. I even put the new Tourance Next tires on the R, the ones that comes on the new wet head GS, so I can play a bit in the dirt again. It is nice having a sub 500 lb bike.
I've had an RT for the last 3 years and am seriously considering the new GSA when they arrive next spring. Has anyone made this switch, RT to GSA. Main concerns would be passenger comfort though she rides with me only 10% or so. I have a Shad 50 case that I would add that has back support. Second would be loss of the electric windshield and heated seat, both of which I like. Thoughts?
"Not all who wander are lost"
2014 R1200GS Adv Blue
2018 Vespa GTS 300 Super
I currently own both an '06 GS and an '08 RT. If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick the GS. I find the GS more versatile...it's great in the mountains riding twisties, can be taken off road (though, as someone else said, if you are going off road seriously, get a real dirt bike....its a heavy pig) and does the motocamping thing a WHOLE lot better. I "Adventurized" my GS by adding the BMW Adventure racks and metal panniers. In addition to the huge boxes, this creates a flat area across the back that allows a ton of storage for tent, sleeping bag, etc. So, while both bikes can tour well, I think the GS does it better because its such a pack mule. The lack of fairing on the GS means its a cooler bike...nice in summer, not so great in winter.
Still, if you can own both, they are both phenomenal handling motorcycles and are great looking bikes with tons of personality.
I've only owned my bikes since the first of the year and both of them have blown their gearbox output shaft seals. Neither was a hideously expensive repair ($240 & $300), but either failure would have been traumatic had they occurred while on a trip...so that's a bit disconcerting. In the back of my head there's a bit of a "Warning, do not trust these bikes" light flashing. Time will tell.
One potential issue...the designer of the GS must have been tall. I'm 6'3" and the bike is at my limit height wise. I recently added a Russell Day-Long seat which added both width and height, so flat footing while seated is a real stretch. But, if you are tall, should be no issue.
We don't take a trip...the trip takes us.
2012 Honda XR650L
Both bikes fill different roles, so you have to decide what's best for you. Neither is a "better" bike than the other. They are both fantastic and built of an engine and platform that I love.
I have an RT and if I could have only one bike, it would be the RT. I ride it every day year round and it's level of comfort and storage are perfect for me. If I tried to do the same thing on a GS, I would not enjoy it as much.
If I were more into going on camping trips, perhaps a GS would be better, but I wouldn't know until I tried it.
I will contend that the RT is perfectly happy in the twisties and a blast to ride. It's an extremely capable bike.
Current rides:
2013 R1200RT 90th - "Tyr" - 85k miles
2012 R1200GS Rallye - "Carl" - 2500 miles
Previous BMWs: 2011 R1200RT-P, 2007 R1200S, 2006 R1200RT
I did a demo ride on a wc gs. Seemed much lighter than my RT. However on the highway much more wind buffeting. New clutch and tthrottle were quirky at first. Over all a real nice bike. Not sure i will change. I am the only RT out of 7 bikes riding home home from Seattle. At least two are the new model GS. I think 5 of the reaming 8 bikes are GS's. I will know more after the trip. We pull out of Seattle a week from today!
Buck in Greensboro, NC
2013 R 1200 RT Midnight Blue - traded, 2014 R 1200 RT Ebony Metallic, 2016 S 1000 XR
The perfect answer, love my 12 RT with 43k on her but I'd love to have a GS as well. Taking a hard look at the water boxer in the classifieds less than 200 miles from home. It's like a sign right? The best of both worlds, we only live once.
QUOTE=Jim Rogers;895975]I have both. I like to ride both. Each has its own pluses and minuses when doing a side by side comparison. Regardless of what anyone else tries to tell you, you need to ride each and pick the one that makes you smile the most. If that doesn't work, buy one of each. Having to choose which BMW to ride each day is not a bad problem to have.[/QUOTE]
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And no, he wasn't like a owner, if he was, when the Cavs had a opportunity to get Amare via trade (which LeBron had no problem with) with the Suns, it would of probably been a successful trade. But the actual owner/management didn't want to include J.J. Hickson in the deal which is a decision I know they probably regret. LeBron along with any other superstar/player and even logical fans would of made that move, but the retarded Cavs management didn't.
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Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Defiant Obrien, Apr 24, 2013.
I never noticed but I liked how cozy it was, with the seating area by the window.
It also is multi terraced to enpower her need to stand higher than everyone.
I hate the ready room, I don't think it looks cozy. I think it looks like a dentist's waiting room.
However it's size obviously works because Janeway is ready for anything
Janeway's ready room looked a lot more comfortable for a needed nap than Picard's. All he got was a little pull-out bed we rarely saw.
Kirk and Picard never needed that kind of shit.
I won't blame Sisko, since his ready room was designed by the Cardassians.
My favorite ready room was Sisko's.
It's Dukat's!
That's right! Nice and dramatic
Dude I dunno where you got these but while the porportions look close, the scale cant possibly be accurate.. Picards room looks way bigger than it is on the show. I also note the lack of the couch he kept behind the chairs.
She's definitely a goddamn diva for sure.
I really don't the think Janeway's ready room was all that bigger than Picards. She had those big windows and the room was mostly green and grey. Picard just had the one narrow window and his room was a coral color. Cool colors make a room seem bigger, warm colors make a room seem smaller. Watch a ready room scene with the saturation turned all the way down, you'll see what I mean.
Eh... it's not like she designed the thing. I wouldn't call her a diva when she had no control over it. Whoever designed the ship would have created the ready room, regardless of who is captain.
And yeah, her ready room was big, but it seemed a little bit cold. Not much going on in there.
Too much work mate. The big picture is... Voyager: tiny ass ship, big ass ready room, tiny ass pompous captain, too big for her britches
Enterprise: Big CITY lights. Stalwart captain.. gets a broom closet for a ready room. Where is the damned equality now?!
If it was Picard's ready room no one would be saying a thing. Just a bunch of crappy ass commentary on women and their closets.
There is a couch, but it's not visible in that render due to my bad choice of angled lighting which is creating shadows. There may also be a recessed area there, I haven't used the set much. The couch is where that dark area is at the bottom. There's also no fish tank and few room decorations, except for what seems to be an empty bookcase. The door to the bridge would be at lower left, but it's part of the included bridge set. Both sets shown above were found at Renderosity. It can be tough to get good camera angles on them without making some walls invisible or opening doors, depending on lens size. There may be some scale problems, but I'm not using the sets for an authentic Trek project.
Here's another angle in a quickie render, with a figure seated at the desk and alternate textures and 28mm lens. I think the show used 20 or 25. The door visible leads to the little alcove where presumably the captain's private head would be:
Things like camera angles, lighting and even the colors of the walls and furniture all alter the perception of the actual size of any television set, and that is what we are talking about. The first thing you need to realize is that Voyager's sets were by and large redressed TNG sets. They changed the angles sometimes and the shapes of the windows but with the exception of the bridges you are looking at the same sets.
This becomes even more clear when you realize that the sets used for the Enterprise E are redressed Voyager sets again with the bridge being the exception. The reason that Voyager got a Stellar Cartography lab in their fifth season was because the set was built for "First Contact". Heck they even used Voyager's Sick Bay set without hardly changing a thing. Picard's quarters are Janeway's.
Does it hurt the enjoyment of the Voyager's series just because you perceive that Janeway's Ready Room is bigger than Picards? I have all the issues of the Star Trek Magazine, in various issues are schematics of every ship, from Enterprise to Voyager and finally Enterprise E, some of which you can now find on line. The art of Set Decoration depends on the ability to fool the eye.
But if you want proof, simply watch TNG and Voyager and when you get to the ready room, count the steps of the person waling up to the Captain's desk. If you leave a little jiggle room for actor height you will see that we are talking about comparable size.
The point is that Janeway has no business having a ready room "perceived to be that big" When she has a tiny ass 150 person ship .. compared to picards 900+ people on the galaxy class enterprise.. She doesnt need it.. nor does she deserve it.
This is just more "over the topness" with Voyager.. some of the other posters were spot on with their assessment of this series
No some of the other posters are in agreement with you, that doesn't make you or them right or wrong. However that doesn't make people that like Voyager and Kathryn Janeway right or wrong either. But truthfully why would you waste your time with something you dislike so much? All I know you had to dig down pretty deeply to even think of this one, haven't you got better things to do?
You nit pick is born out of cutting costs of sets and productions, it isn't about who is getting a bigger office. That thought probably never crossed anyone's mine in the first place. I can only imagine that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses to hate which I personally find pretty amusing.
Oh and finally "bigger" doesn't mean better or even more prestigious, it usually just means there was more room available.
If anything was over the top it was the size of the Enterprise-D, which even staff admitted was too big in internal memos.
A small bedroom can be perceived as larger if painted in light colors.
Janeway's phasers were bigger too!!
That might be because she has so much opportunity to get ready. If Kirk had had her ready room his phasers wouldn't be those tiny little things. The more ready you are the bigger you are.
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I had read stories like this before, of ice axes and other metal equipment seeming to pick up a charge as an electrical storm approached, but it was quite different actually experiencing it. There I was, standing near the summit block, sizing up a shot with the dramatic storm clouds, and yapping to my climbing partner-- probably about how I wasn't too worried that the storm would hit us anytime soon-- when there was a strange crackling sound that turned out to be coming from the ice axe strapped to my pack.
We beat a quick retreat from the mountain, and the crackling was gone within seconds. Then the storm hit us, but it was either a weak one or we missed the brunt, because we only got hit with a few minutes of rain and very light snow pellets.
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There's a scene in the miniseries "Band of Brothers" in which an American paratrooper is seen riding a white horse during the D-Day invasion of France.
That scene may have been inspired by 92-year-old St. Augustine resident Mario Patruno. During the Normandy invasion, Patruno was a 23-year-old paratrooper in Company F of the 506th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. "Band of Brothers" follows an affiliated unit in the 506th, Company E.
Like many Americans who parachuted into Normandy in the early morning hours of June 6, 1944, Patruno ended up lost, separated from his company. But he was determined to rejoin Company F. To help him accomplish that goal, he "borrowed" a white horse from the occupying German forces.
Patruno's early morning ride is now the subject of a new permanent exhibit at the Military Museum of North Florida, located just south of Green Cove Springs on U.S. 16. The exhibit includes a plastic Patruno, dressed in the uniform of a 101st Airborne paratrooper, seated on a white fiberglass horse.
On a recent visit to the museum, Patruno talked about his memories of D-Day. He jumped into France at 1:40 a.m. on June 6. The first American he encountered was a paratrooper who, like Patruno, was separated from his unit, a company in the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment. Together they set out to find their respective units.
As they headed toward the beaches, they met a group of about 15 men from the 82nd Airborne Division under the command of a lieutenant. The lieutenant ordered them to join his group. But Patruno, determined to find his own unit, slipped away.
In a small village, he stopped a Frenchman who was riding a bicycle to ask for directions. But the Frenchman didn't answer him. Patruno walked away. Then several trucks with Germans in them arrived on the scene. Patruno saw the Frenchman pointing in his direction but the trucks kept going.
Later, Patruno said, he saw the same Frenchman bicycling down the road and shot him. He said he also encountered a German soldier who came at him with a bayonet. Patruno shot him as well.
"I was allergic to bayonets," he quipped.
As he continued in the direction of Vierville-sur-Mer, where he hoped to rendezvous with his unit, he saw a field with five horses in it. There was a stable nearby. There were guards outside two of the entrances to the stable, but a third entrance had been left unguarded. Patruno went into the stable and found a bridle.
"The first horse I saw was this guy," he said, gesturing to the fiberglass model of a horse. "He was gentle and friendly."
Because he was carrying equipment, including a bag of grenades, Patruno wasn't sure how he would get onto the horse. He solved that problem by leading the horse to a watering trough, climbing on the trough and hoisting himself onto the horse's back.
As he headed down the road on horseback, he saw two Germans on a motorcycle.
"One of them waved," Patruno said. "I waved back."
Several miles down the road, he heard the sound of a fire fight and rode toward it. He had found Company F.
Seeing Patruno, known to the company as Gus, on horseback, a fellow G.I. called to him, "Hey Gus, there's a war going on."
Reunited with his unit, he joined his sergeant, named Swank, in an assault on a farmhouse held by Germans.
"I was itching to throw a grenade," Patruno said. "So I threw one in the window."
When he and the sergeant entered, the farmhouse appeared to be deserted. The sergeant started to go upstairs but, instead of joining him, Patruno went to the basement. He heard a shot behind him and turned. The sergeant had shot a German who had been hiding under the stairs.
"That's why he was a sergeant and I was a private," Patruno said. "He went by the book. Always cover your partner."
Two days later, Patruno was hit by shrapnel and suffered burns, leading to his first Purple Heart. He got a second Purple Heart after he was shot in the face in September 1944, during Operation Market Garden, a failed effort to secure a bridgehead across the Rhine River into Germany. That was the last action for Patruno, who now who lives with his wife, Ruth, in a St. Augustine retirement home.
On the day Patruno visited the museum, several people came to meet him.
One was C.C. Sprinkle, 91, who was the co-pilot of a B-26 Marauder during World War II and took part in Operation Dragoon, the invasion of South France in August 1944.
Another was Charles Fails, who served with Army Special Forces in the 1970s and 1980s and made 325 parachute jumps.
Fails' son, John, who works at the University of North Florida, served with the 325th Parachute Infantry Regiment of the 82nd Airborne in Iraq in 2003.
At his son's request, Charles Fails gave Patruno the combat infantry badge John Fails had worn in Baghdad.


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DOT Drug Testing Requirements
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- Reporting (medical review officers and verification process)
- Record keeping of final results (confidentiality and release of information)
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What is a Hidden Mickey?
Well, you should really be asking what is a "Right There in Front of Your Face" Mickey!
Hidden Mickeys are tri-circled silhouettes of the iconic mouse strategically placed throughout Disney California Adventure and other Disney theme parks.
They are sometimes placed out in the open, but more often they are subtly inserted into the design of rides and attractions or at inconspicuous locations throughout the parks.
By some accounts, there are literally hundreds of the hidden gems carefully placed around the parks, which avid Disney fans try to track down with gusto.
If you want to look for them, you will find no shortage of websites, printed guidebooks and smartphone apps to help point you in the right direction.
Click on the photo above to see some Hidden Mickeys we uncovered at DCA. Embark on your own voyage of discovery.
Remember, they are hiding in plain view!


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Chipper conspicuous by his absence at camp
By Marty Noble / MLB.com
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- Baseball embraces its past more than the other sports. We readily recognize that and we know why -- there's more to embrace in this game. These days, each club invites former players to its Spring Training camp as a matter of course. The Braves are not an exception. Tom Glavine is wrapped up with his sons' hockey careers, so he won't be here this year. But Crime Dog already is. Bad Henry was here Thursday. Ralph Garr (sans Wile E. Coyote) is coming, so is Murph and maybe Smoltzie. Links to the past, each of them.
Chipper Jones, four months removed from his retirement, was supposed to be here Thursday. He wasn't. So that made him the missing link. Right? For one day, at least.
He'd been invited and until Wednesday, he'd been expected to attend, observe and perhaps even participate in some minor fashion in the Braves' first workout. But no. None of which is to suggest Jones didn't have some sort of presence when the extensively revised Bravos assembled a few Andruw Jones throws away from Cinderella's Castle.
"You kind of expected him to come around the corner," Chris Johnson said. Or be around the corner. Johnson is to handle some of the third-base assignment this year; he has the appropriate initials. He was taking ground balls there Friday. "I wanted to turn around and ask [Chipper] some questions. I like to pick his brain."
Nary a No. 10 showed itself in the clubhouse, though. Three spectators did arrive wearing Chipper's and Bo Derek's signature number in Braves red. They had read Chipper was coming and wanted one more glimpse of the guy who manned third base in Dixie for the better part of 19 summers. But probability morphed into possibility and then into nope. The Jones Boy might have been in Nashville, signing his name, or shooting his rifle, or both. Or somewhere else.
So the camp that has two Uptons (BJ and Justin), two Johnsons (Chris and Reed), two Freddies (Freeman and McGriff, three if Fredi Gonzalez is included) had no Jones for at least one day.
"I didn't even know he was supposed to be here," Johnson said, "and I missed him anyway."
The clubhouse will take some getting used to for the returning lettermen because of new colleagues and the absence of one who had become a fixture. The figure who prompted stares from rookies, and young veterans too, wasn't in his familiar setting -- last locker on the right when the primary entrance is used -- Friday.
"He's letting me use it," Dan Uggla said. "Maybe next year it'll be mine."
Equipment manager John Holland always identified Chipper's belongings -- shower shoes, socks, jocks, baseball undershirts -- with a 10 written in Sharpie black. One less thing to do for Holland. But "I wish I had to do it again," he said. "He's missed. We all miss him."
The batting order may miss Jones as well, though the new Upton-Upton-Heyward outfield alignment is apt to provide enough offense to compensate for some of Chipper's missing swings.
Gerald Laird never played with Chipper. The Braves brought in the veteran catcher in case incumbent Brian McCann needs additional time to recover from October shoulder surgery. He missed Chipper in a different way. "The Braves games were on when I got home from school in Southern California -- 4:05 [p.m. PT] starts," he said. "I watched some of these guys play every day -- McGriff and TP [Terry Pendleton]. But there are two guys who did it for me -- Griffey Junior and Chipper. Chipper had an aura, a strut. I loved watching him do damage in the big leagues."
Laird was quite taken with Chipper even when he reached the big leagues. The first time he caught with Chipper batting, he looked up from his crouch and mouthed a silent "Wow!" Laird would have liked to have more opportunities to watch this year.
"Got here one year too late," he said.
And one day too early. Now, Chipper's due in Saturday. He'll dress in the coaches' room. "He'll get the last locker, there," Gonzalez said, "because he's late."
Freeman lockered next to Chipper in three camps and two seasons. Their homes outside Atlanta are separated by two-tenths of a mile. "He one of my best friends," Freeman said. "We're pretty close." So close that Freeman had known for four days that Jones would be a first-day absentee. "Even though I didn't expect him to be here, it was different without him," Freeman said. "And it can't be the same here without him."
Gonzalez knew nothing of Chipper's possible presence in Nashville. So when the man so conspicuous by his absence was a no-show, the manager wondered. "I'll bet he didn't want to be here the first day and take some of the attention away from the Uptons and the other guys," he said. "I don't know that, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's why he isn't here today. But he'll be here tomorrow probably."
And then, as often has been the case here, he'll be conspicuous by his presence.
Marty Noble is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Career Fair Tips from Our Director of Human Resources
You turn to Mount Nittany for tips to keep your mind and body healthy. Here are tips to nurture your career from Mount Nittany's Director of Human Resources Georgiana Gallaher. Put these tips to use at The Pennsylvania State University's upcoming career fair event Sept. 20 to 22, from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the Bryce Jordan Center or at any upcoming job fair!
We have one opportunity to make a good first impression. Do you realize that recruiters often form first impressions within 30 seconds or less?
Here's how to make the best impression at your next career fair:
- This is a business meeting. Proper attire and good grooming are essential.
- If you have access to a list of attendees, research the companies and prepare a list of appropriate questions.
- Be prepared to talk about your relevant experiences and how you would add value to the organization.
- Take copies of an up-to-date résumé.
- Good posture conveys a sense of self-confidence.
- Maintain eye contact during your conversation.
- Do not monopolize the recruiters' time. Be considerate of other attendees waiting in line.
Don't forget to smile and project a positive attitude! Leave the recruiters with the impression that you are someone who would be an asset to the organization and a valued team player.
Georgiana Gallaher, SPHR, is Director of Human Resources for Mount Nittany Medical Center. She has extensive experience in human resources, focusing on recruitment and human resources management.


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Tomorrow's Tape: Fed Meeting Begins
NFIB November Small Business (7:30 a.m. Eastern Time): seen falling to 92.5, after coming in at 93.1 a month earlier.
US October trade deficit (8:30): seen widening to $42.1 billion from $41.5 billion a month earlier.
October wholesale inventories (10:00): seen up 0.4%, after rising 1.1% a month earlier.
October Job Openings & Labor Turnover (10:00).
Fed's policy committee begins a two-day meeting, its final scheduled meeting of the year.
Dollar General, Magellan Health, Liberty Property and Hanwha SolarOne are among companies reporting quarterly results.


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I'm no skating official versed in technical skills on the ice, but like many watching the Sochi Olympics on TV, I'm happy to judge the contestants' costumes — from Italy's Carolina Kostner to the U.S.A.'s Gracie Gold to Russian pair skaters Aliona Savchenko and Robin Szolkowy. It's all subjective, of course. Did they successfully coordinated […] …
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Leave it to a skier from California to perfectly capture the spirit of the Sochi Winter Olympics. With the competition finished, Julia Mancuso decided to grab some waves. With the temperatures in Sochi balmy once again on Wednesday, Mancuso did some surfing in the Black Sea. She got some help from an NBC reporter to […] …


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As per HoopsHype.com the Raptors have six guys currently on roster who's contracts will end this year. One of those people is Chris Bosh. There are enough Chris Bosh threads already and so let's forget about Bosh for this thread. Let's talk about the other five:
1. Amir Johnson
2. Sonny Weems (Team Option)
3. Rasho Nesterovic
4. Antoine Wright
5. Patrick O'Bryant
- Who would you like/not like to see back next season?
- Who do you feel won't want to come back next season?


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Here is my oil change video. I had to use a fram ph5 as for some reason I bought the wrong mobil filter...needed a M1-302. I use an oversize filter as i see no reason not to and why wouldn't you. I prefill my filter with oil about 4 times as the paper absorbs a lot of oil. Make sure the rubber gasket comes off with the old filter and coat the new gasket with some oil to make for easier removal. I use shell rotella 15w40 oil.
I also over fill the dipstick tube slightly as the oil filter will absorb more oil. The oversized filter will hold almost a litre/quart of oil. More protection for your engine.


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When Your Boss Makes You Pay for Being Fat
Are you a man with a waist measuring 40 inches or more? If you want to work at Michelin North America Inc., that spare tire could cost you.
Employees at the tire maker who have high blood pressure or certain size waistlines may have to pay as much as $1,000 more for health-care coverage starting next year.
As they fight rising health-care costs and poor results from voluntary wellness programs, companies across America are...


text: ParisSurtout 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) Melbourne Storm has developed a formula for its future success, under the constraints of the NRL salary cap. It will keep the Big Four -- Billy Slater, Greg Inglis, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith --- while offloading most of its second tier talent. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-...0713-109fd.html The big fire sale going on now in Melbourne is sure to benefit someone in Super League. These players whom I have labelled "second tier" are not second rate. They are just not in the class of the Big Four. However they are all top quality players who would grace the roster of any Super League or NRL club. With Ryan Hofffman headed to Wigan, Brett Finch headed to either Wigan or Hull KR, and Anthony Quinn probably headed to Wigan, the quality of Super League is sure to rise in 2011. Many other Melbourne Storm players are to be released on to the market, but cannot be fitted within the salary cap of many top NRL clubs. The problem that I see is that --- because of Michael McGuire's personal connections with all the Melbourne players, and Ian Lenagan's deep pockets ---Wigan may end up with most of the top Melbourne players, and thereby introduce an unhealthy dominance such as we used to see prior to Super League. The only other club that has the money to challenge them would appear to be Warrington. Will this be healthy for Super League? Of course not. It is not a problem of Wigan being strong. It is a problem of Wigan being too strong for the good of rugby league. Only when we have a tight contest between at least six clubs --- and those clubs include Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Leeds and Hull FC -- will Super League crowds and TV viewership be able to grow further. If the top tier competitiive mix includes Bradford, Les Catalans, Harlequins and Crusaders, then that will be even better. However the financial problems faced by all three expanion clubs will be an issue for them. But it is imperative that while Wigan is going to be strong, at least we do not have a overwhelming dominance of Wigan over the rest --- fed by the Melbourne Storm fire sale. Edited July 13, 2010 by ParisSurtout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites


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What is the fastest way to look up a list for 0 or 1 values?
I used an Array which was very fast like:
and each entry would either have a value of 0 or 1.Code:int boolList[5000];
I would then check this like:
...but that needs to be initialized to a set number of entries. I would like to be able to have the same speed but also be able to set number of entries at runtime. A linked list would be a lot slower right? The predefined lists I tested with was but I'm not sure how much bulk they had. Ideas?Code:if (boolList[i])


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Mitt Romney's Brilliant Lecture on the Art of Flip-Flopping
Here, courtesy of old Romney clip digger-upper Andrew Kaczynski, is Mitt Romney describing to a group of uninterested old Iowa ladies at the 2004 Republican convention the phenomenon of John Kerry's flip-flopping. It's an excellent briefer on how competent politicians can end up flip-flopping. Thanks, Mitt Romney!
He first describes how it's "standard operating procedure" in campaigns to "look at your opponent's record, you find someplace where he or she has changed positions and you say they're a flip-flopper." True! But in John Kerry's case, Romney says, "this guy really is!" He doesn't ever explain how John Kerry's flip-floppery is different from that of your garden variety flip-flopper. He does, however, use John Kerry's example to lay out one of the more detailed, comprehensive descriptions of how flip-flopping works that you'll ever see a politician give, going on at length about how well-meaning politicians are involuntarily broken down by differing factions or powerful interest groups within their own party. Who is Mittens speaking to here? No one in the room is listening. He's talking too fast for old people. So what we have here is Mitt Romney frenetically talking to himself about the crap he'll have to deal with, as a Massachusetts Republican, when he tries to win a national Republican party primary. At least that's how we're looking at it in retrospect, because we can.
He also tells a Conan O'Brien Joke which he "thought was kinda cute." Telling a 2004-era Conan joke to old Iowa ladies? Oh, Mittens.


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For the joy of reading: 12 bibliomemoirs
I'm sure you can all work out what sort of books are classified as bibliomemoirs. They are not all that common but memoirs about a life of reading, or the books that have particularly influenced someone are intriguing to fellow bibliophiles. Readers can always relate to fellow readers. Here is a selection of bibliomemoirs to whet your appetite for another good book.
The Books in My Life by Henry Miller
Published in 1952, this is the daddy of all bibliomemoirs. Miller lists the 100 books that influenced him the most – be ready to hear about Proust, Plutarch and Petronius.
Why I Read: The Serious Pleasure of Books by Wendy Lesser
Lesser is known for her non-fiction but this book is a personal journey through her favourite books and includes a list of 100 books to read for pleasure.
My Life in Middlemarch by Rebecca Mead
Just published, this book reveals an enduring admiration of George Eliot that began at 17.
Out of Sheer Rage: Wresting With DH Lawrence by Geoff Dyer
Dyer fails to produce an academic study of Lawrence's work and tells an amusing tale about his struggles.
The Whole Five Feet: What the Great Books Taught Me About Life, Death and Pretty Much Everything Else by Christopher Beha
A very long title. Beha reads all 51 volumes of The Harvard Classics.
A Year of Reading Proust: A Memoir in Real Time by Phyllis Rose
A book where Proust is applied to daily life. Not sure whether that's wise.
Great Books: My adventures with Homer, Rousseau, Woolf and Other Indestructible Writers of the Western World by David Denby
Another epic title. Denby returns to further education as an adult, having failed to appreciate it during his youth.
Outside of a Dog: A Bibliomemoir by Rick Gekoski
The bookseller and Guardian writer lists the 25 books that shaped his life.
U and I: A True Story by Nicholson Baker
Baker writes about his obsession with the books and life of John Updike.
Howards End Is on the Landing: A Year of Reading From Home by Susan Hill
Hill spends a year reacquainting herself with her book collection, including all the forgotten titles.
The Reading Promise: My Father and the Books We Shared by Alice Ozma
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Anyone else who's figured this out, any help would be appreciated.


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Everyone picks a can and opens it at the same time while holding it directly under their nose. If your beer explodes then you are "dead" and you have to sit out the next round. Everyone drinks their opened beers and then the next round proceeds with the remaining survivors.
The last one to be alive wins and is probably pretty drunk, but at least they are dry!!


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Hey Marie, thats wonderful congrats to you
[Ava, Missouri
Guess I was lucky yesterday, I wasn't home to get online until early evening. I was having my very own crisis situations yesterday. Saw 2 doctors and got some bad situations straightened out and then went to the car dealership with some unresolved problems with my new car. Got that taken care of partially - have to go back Monday to finish the problems. I ws exhausted physically and mentally by the time I got home so I cut some quilt blocks for my current quilt that I am working on. Just finished cutting some setting strips- and I am ready to get started now.
I had planned on making my cinnamon rolls yesterday after not being able to make them the day before as there was only 1 lonely little egg in my refrig. and CC wasn't close enough to borrow one from. Will get some eggs today so I can make the rolls after I start swing my strips together. Gnny
maire I saw that and wondered if that was you . congrads on the win.. Barbara
Ginny, glad you were able to get things straightened out.
I wish I had known you needed some eggs, my hens are about to overwhelm me with them.
I have been having issues with my new car also, the cruise has stopped working, have to take it in for them to fix, thank goodness for warranties.
Thanks Leslie and Barbara.
Where is the best place to get the hexagon papers? I'd like to make one of the wallhangings in the book but can't even imagine making all those papers myself.
Millbury, MA
Be sure to have them check the fuse and the relay before spending a fortune!!!
Linda:Sukochi, I've been to more Revelation Bible studies than you have fingers and toes. It is one of the most beautiful books in the Bible. I don't understand why people are so afraid of it. The description of Heaven is amazing. I look forward to the day I arrive. I was almost there a little over 4 years ago, but God said no not quite yet I still have something for you to do on earth
I am not afraid. I just think what happens to the earth is scary. I am/spirits so ready to go. I think most of the people who are afraid are those who hear of this but do not have God in their lives. In Bible study, we discussed what the men/spirits on the horses brought to the earth and it's effects. It is a fascinating study and I am just enjoying this so much. I remember as a teenager, our click (4 of us) were sunbathing and talking about all the things going on in the world that looked like the end was near to us. Ha! that was in 1969. Here in 2012, it looks even worse.
You are truly blessed by the Lord.
Leslie :I have been having issues with my new car also, the cruise has stopped working, have to take it in for them to fix, thank goodness for warranties.
What a bummer Leslie. Will they give you a loaner to use while they fix the problem?
I never used an egg when making dough...guess it was because we were poor and eggs were scarce. Now you've made me crave some, gonna defrost some pizza dough...yummy, hot cinnamon rolls for dinner.
That's so weird...just remembered as kids we never got eggs unless we were ill, which was almost never. Mom made deviled eggs for holidays, hard boiled for Easter that's all I can recall. Funny we didn't even know we were that poor.
Busy day Ginny, glad you were able to sort it all out. Can't believe after that you worked on your quilt. Could you send me some of that energy? : )
Marie sorry can't help you there . I don't have a clue.
LaJuan Sukochi Lee:Diana, it is not your FIL or MIL's decision when he will pass. It is God's decision.
I believe that as well but with DH I saw such a peace come over him once he told me "I am ready to let go. I am tired of fighting to hang on." But even with that it was almost a week before he passed but during those days we could see a very calm end of life process. The important thing is for the people around him assuring him that all is going to be well.
Agnes in NW Ontario
Marie, they think it is just a sensor and shouldn't take long to fix
Diana, I have a little Brother 100-Stitch Computerized Sewing Machine with Alphabet Font-SQ9050 found only at Walmart - it's about $200 - I got mine on clearance for $100.00 and have done several larger quilts with it. You can do large projects on small machines, It is more difficult and slower with all the shifting. Here's some of the FM I did on my last quilt.


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Snowden Leak: An Intelligence Contractor Costs Ten Times as Much as a Bureaucrat
Jason Mick
August 30, 2013 8:22 AM
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The "free market" appears to be more a game of shills and payola
When the
U.S. Central Intelligence Agency
U.S. National Security Agency
(NSA), and other intelligence firms get their spying dollars they contract out much of their work to private analysts. But this process has long been suspected by some to be
less free market and more outright corruption
. A fresh leak affirms that much like rumors of
spying on U.S. citizens
-- these claims that were once were dismissed as paranoid irrationalism have now been proven to be true in
America's warped political landscape
I. Intelligence Official: "Brilliant People Get You in Trouble"
The latest document was
The Washington Post
and comes courtesy of
former NSA analyst Edward Snowden
Mr. Snowden was never supposed to have access to this document -- nor many of the others he obtained. But as with much of his trove of documents, he obtained the kind of whistleblower information that was far too explosive for even a privileged employee of his clearance, by using digital espionage to escalate his privileges even higher.
A former intelligence official
NBC News
described Mr. Snowden, stating:
Every day, they are learning how brilliant [Snowden] was. This is why you don't hire brilliant people for jobs like this. You hire smart people. Brilliant people get you in trouble. The damage, on a scale of 1 to 10, is a 12.
Edward Snowden was "too smart" to hire, says one former intelligence official. When he caught wind of massive gov't spying and corruption he blew the whistle in a responsible way when a "dumber" employee might have stayed quiet, ignorant, and obedient . [Image Source: AP]
If that sounds a little bit like a mob mindset, you might not be that far off, when you consider the numbers from this latest document.
While the document has plenty of interesting revelations, perhaps the most revealing graphic as to why the NSA and other organizations are so keen on spying on millions of law abiding Americans can be found on page 79 of the "top secret"
classified Budget Summary for Fiscal 2013
[Image Source: The Washington Post]
The graphic above shows that about 18 percent of the intelligence workforce -- or roughly one in five contractors -- is from the private sector ("civilian" workers represent non-military government personnel, i.e. staff at CIA or NSA offices or
counterterrorism "Fusion" Centers
While contractors represent fewer than 20 percent of the workforce, 70 percent of the intelligence budget goes to them, according to a figure from the
U.S. Director of National Intelligence Agency
(DNI) at a Colorado sponsored by the
Defense Intelligence Agency
(DIA). While it's possible that this number is a few percentage points more or less today, that rare peek behind the veil is likely still relatively accurate.
II. Obama's Donors are Cashing in on Pork-Barrel Spy Spending
Traditionally the lion's share of this money has gone to Northrop Grumman Corp. (
), Honeywell Int'l Inc. (
) (via is Science Applications Int'l Corp. subsidiary), Raytheon Comp. (
), Lockheed Martin Corp. (
), and Edward Snowden's former firm Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Comp. (
Given that these companies were among President Barack Hussein Obama's (D) top donors, giving twice as much to him as his Republican rival, it seems unlikely that the agency chiefs would cut back funding to these "friends of the state".
The list of President Obama's top campaign donors reads like a who's who of the intelligence contracting industry including --
Booz Allen Hamilton
($176,000 + $281,700 USD to supporting PACs);
Lockheed Martin
($285,600 + $854,300 USD to supporting PACs);
Honeywell Int'l
($93,600 USD + ~$100,000 USD to supporting PACs);
($155,800 + $522,300 USD to supporting PACs); and
Northrop Grumman
($251,500 + $323,300 USD to supporting PACs).
Barack Hussein Obama is a master of "spying" a payday... it's not suprising he managed to get elected President (twice) and lavished private intelligence contractors with kickbacks.
[Image Source: Reuters]
Given that "generosity", it's possible that the percentage of the President's intelligence budgets that is being funneled to campaign donors-cum-private contractors may be well over 70 percent at present.
But let us assume the 70 percent figure for a second. So that figure indicates 70 cents out of every intelligence dollar goes in a private pocket.
One might assume that under the "free market" these contracts would deliver lowers costs. But in reality it appears they are dramatically higher. With the information from the latest leak (that contractors only comprise ~18 percent of the workforce), it can be estimated that the federal government pays ten times as much of your taxpayer dollars per private sector analyst as they do per government employees.
In other words in America's political system, the much villainized "desk job bureaucrats" (along with a small contingent of members of the military) are actually raking in much less than the private sector firms "competing" for that work.
It's an ironic day when bureaucrats are 10 times cheaper than the closed market alternative championed by corrupt politicians. [Image Source: Matt Groening]
This makes no sense from a capitalist perspective until you realize that this isn't capitalism at all and that the nation has devolved into a system in which both parties unilaterally take from the taxpayers and pay off large contractors, who consistently shower both supposed "sides" of America's two party ruling system with campaign cash.
III. Contracts Awarded For Payouts, Not Product
There's no transparency, and little competition to speak of, because contracts typically go to those who pay, not those who offer the best payout of results. For example Amazon.com, Inc.'s (
) PAC in 2012 paid a roughly 56-74 split (D/R) of campaign cash to members of the House and 37-12 split (D/R) to members of the Senate, according to
numbers from its PAC
. Lo and behold in each case money went to whatever party was in control of chamber and could pass spending legislation. According to the site's statistics Amazon claimed
$2.5M USD in lobbying expenses
in 2012 alone.
Congress is as much in the pocket of the owners of big money intelligence contractors as the President. [Image Source: Wikimedia Commons]
Punch that into your old calculator with the numbers from a 2011
by researchers
Raquel Alexander
Susan Scholz
of the
University of Kansas
School of Business
which estimates that per $1 USD spent on lobbying a company gets back $220 USD, on average in contracts, tax breaks, grants, etc. and you get an estimated that Amazon's $2.5M USD contribution should theoretically earn it a $550M USD payoff.
Lo and behold Amazon reportedly received
a $600M USD confidential contract
recently to provide "data services" to the CIA.
Bribery pays big dividends in U.S. politics. Given that federal politicians have little legal responsibility to recuse themselves from decisions involving campaign donors and given that the payoff is $220 USD per $1 USD spent lobbying it's a dream investment.
[Image Source: Haberrus]
Likewise, Oracle Corp. (
) -- another top tech industry recipient -- spent so much that even Amazon might blush. It spent
$6.7M USD in 2012
alone. And results? Consider that Oracle pocketed most of
a $1B USD U.S. Air Force project
that last year was deemed a complete failure and whose work was mostly tossed out (don't worry Oracle kept that hard earned taxpayer money). Perhaps that's why Oracle CEO Larry Ellison was
so eager to defend the NSA
-- an agency who he reportedly helps spy on millions of Americans daily.
IV. Most of the Pork is Pocketed by Big Shareholders, Not Contracting Professionals
So it's been settled that the U.S. government is
taxing citizens
over $50B USD per year to
spy on themselves
, and is operating as a closed-market system when it comes to contracting, with any signs of capitalistic life few and far between. But one would hope at least some of that money was going to the employees of defense and electronics industry intelligence contractors.
But this does not appear to be the case. While private sector employees do earn more, they don't earn ten times as much. Associate Consultants at BAH -- a position similar to Mr. Snowden's
make an average of $108K USD
yearly according to
Glass Ceiling
(Mr. Snowden reportedly made $122,000 USD/year), while an NSA "analyst" in a similar post reportedly
earns around $70K USD
. So if private contractors aren't even earning a measly twice as much, where is all this pork going?
Contractor firms' professional employees only make marginally more than their gov't peers, studies show. Most of the pork is stuffed into the pockets of hedge fund owners, the ultimate target of intelligence industry pork. [Image Source: Mother Jones]
The answer is that the money is pocketed as corporate profits, which are distributed to shareholders via programs such as dividends, share buybacks, etc. Of course much of this money goes to America's top 0.01 percent -- the individuals who control the hedge funds, which in turn own much of the corporate IT industry and defense contracting industry's public stock. Essentially the corporations just act as one more layer in the food chain above the paid off politicians who scavenge on taxpayer dollars. At the top of food chain are the hedge fund owners, the great whites of the American budgetary sea.
Thus contracting -- the primary recipient of intelligence dollars -- is not only a corrupt closed-market system with artificially inflated prices -- its a system in which skilled professional at most earn a small cut of these ill-gotten gains. The leech-like construct ultimately funnels the lion's share of defense contracting dollars to a fortunate few, operating as a plutocracy.
V. Small Contractors Show Similar Tendencies
As for smaller contracting firms the same principle applies. Studies show that funding -- much of which
passes through earmarks
-- is largely received by contractors that donate to the politicians sponsoring the earmark.
Snaller contractors are equally fond of payola, scoring contracts on facial recognition, data mining, smartphone snooping, and other forms of spying. [Image Source: Hang the Bankers]
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
's (DHS) $6M USD "BOSS" project to use facial recognition to spy on American citizens is a perfect example. The earmark of $6M USD went to
Electronic Warfare Associates Government Systems, Inc.
(EWA GSI) who had donated heavily to Senate minority leader
Sen. Mitch McConnell
(R - Kent.) -- who happened to write the earmark. Lo and behold this award which Sen. McConnell claimed featured a "competitive" bidding process had only one bidder.
More often these small firms -- like EWA GSI -- are private with profits going to their venture capitalist backers -- the same lucky lot that have cornered the big business side of the market via their corporate stock holdings. Why select one route of corruption when you can have two?
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Kent.) is fond of funneling kickbacks to his generous "donors". For example facial recognition spying firm EWA GSI recently got $6M USD [Image Source: AP]
The best plutocrats surely have balanced portfolios of small and big contractors alike, all of whom are wooing the best politicians that money can buy.
VI. How Big Intelligence Taught me to Stop Worrying About Bureaucrats and Love the Bomb
A final point worth mentioning is that while intelligence budgets are at record amounts in dollars -- they are not at record amounts when adjusted for inflation. In the late 1980s inflation adjusted budgets peaked at around $71B USD, according to
The Washington Post
But what is different is the product that's being paid for and who is getting paid.
In the 1980s most intelligence dollars went to government employees and their expenses. Intelligence was expensive as it was largely the work of field operations in regions of interest. This required a lot of employees and a lot of logistics spending. Contractors are though to have received a far smaller cut.
Today most intelligence money goes to private contractors. Intelligence today should be far cheaper as most of it's done locally in the U.S. with little in the way of logistics costs.
Today federal spying is low cost and focuses more heavily on U.S. citizens. This all equates to more pork for paid of polticians to push. [Image Source: The People's Cube]
In the 1980s most intelligence dollars went towards spying on the Communists and their allies. Today a large percentage of the money spent on spying goes towards collecting, storing, and even at times
improperly analyzing the communications of citizens of the U.S.
ally states
Thus America has unwittingly traded expensive bloated bureaucracy in the Cold War for an even more wasteful closed market plutocractic system in the "9/11 era". And in the process they're getting far less for its money, all while installing systems that could later lead to
dangerous violations of citizens' civil liberties
The bitter irony? We're paying for the weapons that could one day rob us of our Constitutional freedoms. [Image Source: Nation of Change]
You know you're in a nightmare when you're wishing that you could get your slightly-less-overpaid bureaucrats back. But that is where America finds itself. Welcome to the surveillance state.
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Seriously, people, I am so sick of the April Fool's jokes. I just got this in my email.
Dear Dr. Myers:
I'm writing to you in your capacity as a biology faculty member at University of Minnesota Morris. I'm originally from Minnesota— I'm from just south of Mankato, and I'm a St. Olaf alum. Currently, I'm the Dean of Research at the National College of Natural Medicine (NCNM) in Portland, Oregon. My PhD is in Immunology, from the University of Colorado, and I did a post-doctoral fellowship at Yale University. I noticed that you earned your PhD at U of OR. My partner's daughter graduated from U of OR 2 years ago.
This past year at NCNM, we've launched a Master of Science of Integrative Medicine Research (MSiMR) program. It's a 2 year accredited program that is a combination of an MPH and a Master of Clinical Research program. As integrative medicine is on the rise, it's important to determine what works and what doesn't. Our MSiMR students are building the evidence base for integrative medicine. We do applied, basic, and clinical research. It's an exciting program that examines nutrition, exercise, behavior change, massage, herbal medicine, and other natural modalities.
In addition, the MSiMR program has the potential for international medical research. I personally have collaborations in Tanzania, Brazil, and Nicaragua, and will be taking two students with me to Tanzania this summer. Thus, students who are interested in global health may be interested in this program. I'm attaching 2 brochures so that you can get a flavor of the program.
I know Morris is a little out of the way, but I'm going to be in Minnesota visiting my family April 18th-22nd, and I'm happy to make the drive if you know of students who are interested in natural medicine (naturopathic or Chinese medicine degrees) or integrative medicine research. I interviewed at Morris when I was looking at colleges for undergrad. In the past, I've met with the pre-med clubs at St. Olaf, Gustavus, and Minnesota State Universities. I'd like to make sure that Morris students have the same opportunities. If you'd like me to give a seminar or an informal talk for pre-med or graduate school bound students, I'm happy to do so. I'm also available to drop by a classroom and chat for 10 minutes if you think your students would be interested.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I am being teased. I would so love to have Heather visit my classroom, just to see the look on her face when the horde of students raise their heads, eyes all a-glitter, and smile and bare their needle-sharp fangs in those last few minutes before she is shredded. I suspect, though, that if I eagerly offered her access to the students, she'd look a little closer at the content of my site and flee like a tuna before the shark.


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Mars rover on brink of drilling breakthrough
NASA's Mars Curiosity rover is preparing to drill into the Martian surface for the first time.
The venture marks the rover's most significant engineering test since its descent onto the red planet five months ago.
Scientists pinpointed the first rock the rover's drill piece will pierce in a region known as Yellowknife Bay, which was once saturated with water.
"Drilling into a rock to collect a sample will be this mission's most challenging activity since the landing," said project manager Richard Cook, from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.
"It has never been done on Mars," he said.
One of the rover's tasks during its two-year mission is to determine whether Mars is, or ever was, habitable. Studying the planet's geology provides scientists with important clues.
Curiosity is currently exploring a region surrounding the target rock, and if the structure meets the engineers requirements, the NASA team hope to use the drill in the next two weeks.
The rock, named after the former Mars Science Laboratory deputy project manager John Klein, who died in 2011, was selected because it had a different type of wet environment than the streambed where the rover landed.
Curiosity's cameras have found some unexpected features in the area's rock formations, including veins, cross-bedded layering, and pebbles embedded in sandstone.
The Mars Science Laboratory's project scientist John Grotzinger said the veins suggested water had percolated through the rocks, leaving behind minerals, likely calcium sulfate.
"This is the first time in this mission that we've seen not just an aqueous environment but one that has precipitated minerals," said Professor Grotzinger from the California Institute of Technology.
The team are hoping the drill, which can burrow to a depth of five centimetres, will sample material from the veins and surrounding rocks.
"[That will] give us an appraisal of the habitability of this environment," he said.
The rover's Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) has also examined nearby sedimentary rocks, which form when material is deposited by water, of varying shapes and sizes.
Some rocks had grains the size of peppercorns; while others had grains the size of powdered sugar.
"All of these are sedimentary rocks, telling us Mars had environments actively depositing material here," said the MAHLI deputy principal investigator Aileen Yingst, from the Planetary Science Institute in Tucson, Arizona.
"The different grain sizes tell us about different transport conditions."
Curiosity's findings will serve as a foundation for the agency's plans to send humans to Mars in the mid-2030s.
Nicky Phillips is Science Editor for The Sydney Morning Herald.
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Bill Powel-Smith has joined DuPont Pioneer as a dairy specialist in northern Wisconsin.
In this role, Powel-Smith will work with the Pioneer sales force to help dairy producers reach maximum productivity in growing, harvesting, storing and feeding forage products along with sharing on-farm knowledge and nutritional best practices.
"Operating a dairy brings opportunities and challenges, just like any other business," says Powel-Smith. "In my new role, I look forward to working with Wisconsin dairy producers to help them weigh all the options and make the best management decision for their operation. Backed by the research and expertise of DuPont Pioneer, I can work closely with growers to help them make decisions to maximize productivity and profitability."
Prior to joining Pioneer, Powel-Smith worked for Northstar Dairy in Lancaster, Minn., as a farm manager. He also has worked for Tuls Dairies and Milksource, LLC. His background includes a broad range of experiences ranging from operations and management to diagnostics and herd treatment. He obtained his bachelor's degree in animal science at Cornell University.
From planting through feedout, Pioneer uses industry-leading research, agronomic and nutritional expertise to provide the entire range of seed genetics, crop-specific forage additives, silage know-how and local service all dedicated to the goal of meeting the feed needs of producers' livestock operations.
DuPont Pioneer is the world's leading developer and supplier of advanced plant genetics, providing high-quality seeds to farmers in more than 90 countries. Pioneer provides agronomic support and services to help increase farmer productivity and profitability and strives to develop sustainable agricultural systems for people everywhere. Science with Service Delivering Success®.
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alright guys, im racking my brain on this one, cant get it figured out. i bought a netgear ntv300 used the other day. i thought (and was wrong) i could use dlna and stream from my pc. i found a firmware confirmed to have dlna and to work, but i need a way to downgrade to this firmware. from reading online, i found if you set up a web server, create the directories, and redirect the web address to the server, it will check and downgrade.
i have apache set up, as well as all files in place. the ntv doesnt have usb, but when wifi comes on it checks updates1.netgear.com/ntv300b/us/gm/fileinfo.xml for updates. i need to know how to make that page redirect to my localhost, or a local server address for my apache server
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FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. - Two members members of the Cipriano family remain hospitalized after a deadly attack last month at their Farmington Hills home.
Rose Cipriano and her son, Sal Cipriano, both were listed in critical condition at Botsford Hospital since April 16. On Monday, Rose's condition was upgraded to serious condition. Sal remains in critical condition.
Three weeks ago, on the morning of April 16, Bob Cipriano, Rose's husband and Sal's father, was beaten to death inside the family's home.
Tucker Cipriano, 19, and his friend, 20-year-old Mitchell Young, are charged with murder in Tucker's father's death. Police say the duo are responsible for breaking into the home and beating the three family members with baseball bats.
Tucker's young sister and brother, Sal's twin, were also at the home during the attack. Police said the boy called 911 from a closet and his sister allowed police into the home where they reported finding a gruesome murder scene.
More: Complete coverage of Cipriano family murder, beatings
-- Tucker Cipriano and Mitchell Young
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It's confirmed now that Madara was stronger than Tobirama so Tobirama was scared.
Todays chapter confirms that their love growing stronger enough so they can go along with Senju and eventually the reflection of their love turns into a great power that is beyond Senju's love.
Their hatred of loosing their comrade giving them the power of EMS.
That's why Tobirama is happy that Uchiha are annihilated now.