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Town Square
Growing Homeless Problem
Original post made by Resident, Crescent Park, on Jul 24, 2007
Comments (24)
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 24, 2007 at 7:04 am
Palo Alto and most cities need a caravansary on the outskirts where folk can camp with sanitary facilities. When there is an alternative to sleeping in doorways, you can arrest for sleeping in doorways.
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 24, 2007 at 8:51 am
It is a delight to hear that more homeless are pouring in PA. The problem has to get worse before it gets addressed.
Like they say... bring them on...
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 24, 2007 at 8:58 am
The street homeless issue is bad, but what about all the RV and camper homeless as well. South Palo Alto, especially around the Fry's area from Cal Ave / ECR / Park Blvd is just littered with RV and truck campers filled with people that are employed by Palo Alto companies, but are not paid a wage where they can actually live in Palo Alto. These folks often park over storm drains grates so that they can conveniently use them as a sewer.
Perhaps we should turn one of the city parking lots or garages into a low cost trailer park/camp ground where these folks could get power and sewage services. We could then bill their employers so that the services and city taxes are covered.
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jul 24, 2007 at 10:28 am
There is a place in Palo Alto for the homeless to go. It's called the Opportunity Center and it's located near El Camino between Town and Country and the Medical Clinic. Check it out.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Jul 24, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Why would it surprise anyone that we have homeless "problem" in Palo Alto.
Even mentally unstable people, as most of the homeless are, are generally capable of responding to normal incentives - both positive and negative.
Here in Palo Alto, we have the Opportunity Center - which draws the homeless region-wide here to our town. Other cities have nothing like this welcoming beacon. To the contrary, in neighboring cities, agressive pan-handlers are discouraged. Here, we allow them to sit and lie on the streets and sidewalks in most parts of town, and the police are instructed to have a hands-off attitude for all except the most abusive of these street denizens.
Yep, Palo Alto has a homeless problem that other cities don't(besides those like SF and Berkeley which have similar attitudes adn policies to Palo Alto.) We could get rid of most of the homeless in short order -- if we only had the political will. We don't. So don't be surprised when the homeless "problem" continues to be an issue here.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 24, 2007 at 1:43 pm
What most folks don't realize is that Europe generally doesn't have the "civil liberties" that we have, and can simply pick up their homeless and bring them somewhere else. So, any tourist spot is going to be cleaned up.
They are also much more able to lock up their mentally unstable, like we did before 1979 ( I think it was about then) when we decided that the mentally unstable have the right to live on the street because it is their "choice". Europeans see us as heartless for not forcing them into facilities, and simply cannot understand why we think sick people have the right to not take their meds and live on the street. ( I actually don't agree with our policy either)
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 25, 2007 at 9:47 am
I think the policy here in the U.S. that you simply allow the homeless population to move into a town and take over public benches, parks, etc. is wrong and needs to be addressed both locally and at the state level. As I drove past the park that's across the street from Spago yesterday evening, the public benches were occupied exclusively by homeless individuals. Why doesn't the police ever notice the same situation day after day? What about the use of public benches on University Avenue by the homeless as private camps...again, the police are turning a blind eye to the situation. What ever happened to the notion of "restorative policing" anyway???? Wake up, it's not working.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 25, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Again, the public health expense of ignoring the problem exceeds the cost of a caravansary. If we had a place to send them we could send them. It cannot be a full service facility with rules such facilities require, because most of the homeless are homeless because they reject rules. It needs minimal sanitary facilities and an occasional look see to keep them from killing one another. Let the churches take turns running a canteen and traveler's aid, and then let them be.
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 25, 2007 at 3:44 pm
There s nothing that prevents anyone, regardless of housing status, that prevents them from using any of the benches Downtown. Not even the amended "Sit/Lie" ordinance. So, exactly what would like the police to do?
The proposed Restorative Policing project will only address those who are generating contacts with the police, not granting the police extra authority to target those obeying the law.
There is no means for making anyone go anywhere against their will witout due process of the law. Sort of a Constitutional thing.
As 1/2 European alluded to, in many European cities, they make it very clear that certain people are not welcome in some parts of the city. To be fair, it cuts both ways – I have seen the local police in some cities run tourists out of really bad neighborhoods in Spain, Italy, and France. (They would recommend to U.S. military personnel that they move along as well, but let them fend for themselves – but that's another series of stories.)
The definitions regarding "who" and "bad" are as subjective and arbitrary there as here.
Half also mentions changes in how our country, our society addresses the mentally ill. Government policy in California shifted the responsibility to the local community level in the late '60's. The Federal policy made the same move in the '80's. (I'll let you historians connect the dots on the common personality involved.) If someone was deemed not to be a danger to themselves or others while taking their meds, they were released.
Resident, and a few others, must have been out of town June 14 & 15 when all the local radio, television and print media (including this very newspaper) run stories about the DECREASE in the homeless/unhoused population of Santa Clara County in general (12%), including Palo Alto's 30% drop.
Yes, there's a new face or two from time to time, but most move on after a short stay. "Migration" is a very subjective (loaded) term that grossly over-states my observations. I definitely see fewer of "those people" on the street than there was a year ago.
Which raises the question; what is it about the Opportunity Center that makes it a mistake? Nearly half of the 88 permanent, affordable rental apartments for singles and families are occupied by people who used to be living on the street. Others came from short term housing programs, and would have ended up back on the street again had they not signed a lease and moved in there.
And I'm not sure what aspects of the OC the council needs to revisit. The site, the building and its functions went through the "Palo Alto Process" of boards, committees, commissions, and public hearings for over 4 years before getting approval. The city has no involvement in the daily operations of the service center or the housing.
If anything, the city could loosen up on the use permit so the Drop-in Center could be open after 4 PM and/or on weekends, if InnVision can find a way to provide staffing. Currently, the hours are restricted to 8 AM to 4PM, Monday to Friday. (Oh, by the way, none of the hot meals are served at the OC per use permit restriction. They still rotate from church to church as they have always done. The Drop-in done provide a "Continental Breakfast" of day olds donated by local bakeries.)
If it's the apartments you have a problem with, contact the county housing authority – they are the landlord. They collect the rent, approve the tenants, and provide overnight security.
If you problem is with the homeless shelter, call 650-853-8672 and tell them you have a problem regarding the Hotel de Zink. That's the 15 bed, rotating emergency shelter that moves from church to church each month. it has been the only emergency shelter in Palo Alto for a decade or so, though it does have its roots back during the Depression.
That phone number works for contacting the OC for any reason. They even arrange tours as the need arises.
Whoever thinks the OC is one of a kind is right. Other cities want to build a service center with a permanent housing component. Those who have a service center with housing only provide temporary housing at best. Most centers provide no on-site housing, and too many housing sites provide no services. Temporary housing site actually are more of a draw, there could be an opening on any given day. Permanent has a very slow turnover – ask Palo Alto Housing Corp about their churn at Alma Place or other affordable sites.
Anyone who thinks Palo Alto is the only city "region-wide" (whatever that means) with a "beacon" of some kind is mistaken. Were that true, there would be thousands of "them" here instead of less than 300 (okay, 350 counting the RV dwellers). Hell, Gilroy even has a couple – and Los Altos refers to people Mountain View and Monte Sereno sends them to Cupertino, Campbell, or San Jose.
Palo Alto also discourages "aggressive" panhandling, but how does one define "aggressive" in legal terms? Some cities have tried limiting verbal contact, a sign is okay – just do say anything and all is good. Palo Alto actually discussed the rattling of a cup as a measure of aggressiveness (this is Palo Alto, okay?).
Palo Alto has had an ordinance on the books for 7+ years regarding sitting or lying on the sidewalk from 11 AM to 11 PM. There are very few violators, actually (and they mostly housed folks). Like all nuisance ordinances, it gets enforced when someone complains. If you don't complain, you don't understand the game. If you do complain, you need to commit. You may get to watch an officer write a citation, and the perpetrator move to legal seating or stand up. You may have to go to court, along wit the police officer, as a witness if the offender pleads "not guilty" to not complying. That's if they bother to show up in court, and bother to contest it. Odds are, if you get to see the individual arrested, it's because they missed a court date, or they didn't pay the fine. But it often takes a month or two for the judge to issue an arrest warrant. The upside for the public is they pay all the costs of the court process and 10 to 15 days of "three hot and a cot" – homeless/unhoused offenders rarely have money to pay fines, even if they go to court.
And if you think Palo Alto has a problem, do some research and think again.
Santa Fe, New Mexico – the state capital – is about the same size as we are, and a bit more isolated. They have a "new" homeless/unhoused problem: where to find the $1 million plus in their city budget to deal with the 900+ people they have living on their streets. Check the article by Julie Ann Grimm in The New Mexican on June 26, 2007 about it. Imagine if we had three times the street population and nothing like the OC, and desperately wanted one.
Oh, and another point for Don; a March 13 press release from the office of Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates said:
The Public Commons for Everyone Initiative builds on Berkeley's existing efforts and borrows many of the successful efforts of other cities – such as Portland, Santa Cruz, and Palo Alto – which have developed safe street programs that provide a combination of service enhancements and enforcement and present an integrated strategy for creating more viable and inviting commercial districts.
The Honorable Mr. Bates thinks we are a model to emulate. Scary, isn't it?
I would say I'm sorry about this being so long, but that would be disingenuous, at best. There had been a lot of misunderstood information, and misinformation, posted on related threads in the past. I hope this less a dry screed, and more an enlightening monologue. I didn't even get into the points that many of the panhandlers and mentally ill on University are housed people; illegal alcohol consumption in public (mostly related to restaurants); sidewalk obstruction (again, mostly restaurants); abuse alcohol and/or drugs in general (mostly employed and housed folks); there are NO vagrancy laws; "loitering" is an even more vague concept than "aggressive"; trespassing issues; how people end up on the street, and why they stay there; or other projects that have gotten, or might get more, people off the street, as far as where they sleep. Or, regardless of where they sleep, what they do during the day. (A problem San Francisco admits they have, in spite of finding TEMPORARY housing for a couple of thousand people.)
And I've barely scratched the surface of my personal opinion.
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 25, 2007 at 11:58 pm
You have just made all the standard excuses for tolerating the inhumane status quo in Palo Alto (and other cities of similar stripe).
Mentally ill people, who cannot make rational decisions for themselves, should have no rights concerning their public living arrangements. They should be forced to live in better circumstances (which the state should provide). The European model is much better than our own.
I don't think that Walter's idea of a "caravansary" works in a built out area. Where would one put them, Foothill Park? Stanford dish?
Some of these people are true bums who deserve no sympathy. But there are others that simply cannot make it on their own. This should be recognized, and they should be arrested and placed (against their will) in better circumstances.
There is no rational reason to let them damage a major business district.
Norm, time to get real. Very few of us are shedding tears, anymore.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 26, 2007 at 8:44 am
Norm - There are laws on the books which allow the police to place those begging downtown in custody for a few days without the need for another individual to be the motivating force behind such action on the part of the police. The problem is that the police simply do not want to be involved with the homeless/loitering/begging problem in Palo Alto. I suspect the local judges are in the same boat. When the police and courts stop dealing with those individuals, who set up encampments downtown on a daily basis, and expect the local residents to initiate police action by complaining, as you indicated, I think it's safe to say that Palo Alto has a serious problem. It's not OK for city officials to simply throw their hands up and say we can't do anything. The police have laws on the books, they just don't enforce them. Instead, they make it very difficult to remove the homeless/loitering/begging individual and choose to place the burden on us. What they should be doing is taking those who beg on the streets on a daily basis into custody and forcing the courts to abide by the laws as they stand today. Eventually, those who want to live on the streets will understand that Palo Alto is not a vagrant-friendly city. Yes, it costs money, but so what. Let's enforce the laws.
I also found it odd that there is some data floating around about a decrease in the number of homeless in Palo Alto. Having taken daily walks downtown for many years, I can assure you that there is a huge increase in the number of homeless, vagrant, loitering, begging individuals downtown.
Berkeley likes what we're doing!!! Red flag alert. Stop doing whatever Berkeley thinks is appropriate action regarding homeless individuals. Berkeley has never done the right thing with regard to the homeless, and so, if they like our approach, it's time to do something else. Ditto for Santa Cruz.
Thank you for admitting that when a city provides services, even temporary, to those who live on the streets, it is a draw to that city. It's simply common sense and yet I am continually amazed at how many "homeless advocates" refuse to admit such an obvious fact. They lose all credibility by doing so, but still they insist that services are not a draw to a particular city or area of a city. Palo Alto has drawn more homeless/vagrants/begging individuals to our city (downtown area) by offering services near the downtown area. That's a fact. If you don't believe it, just walk around University and Lytton on any given day.
I have included only the relevant part of the Penal Code below for anyone who wants to read it:
Part 1. OF CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
Title 15. MISCELLANEOUS CRIMES
Chapter 2. OF OTHER AND MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES
As amended 1/1/2007
§ 647.
Every person who commits any of the following acts is guilty of disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor:
(c) Who accosts other persons in any public place or in any place open to the public for the purpose of begging or soliciting alms.
(e) Who loiters or wanders upon the streets or from place to place without apparent reason or business and who refuses to identify himself or herself and to account for his or her presence when requested by any peace officer so to do, if the surrounding circumstances would indicate to a reasonable person that the public safety demands this identification.
(f) Who is found in any public place under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any combination of any intoxicating liquor, drug, controlled substance, or toluene, in a condition that he or she is unable to exercise care for his or her own safety or the safety of others, or by reason of his or her being under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any combination of any intoxicating liquor, drug, or toluene, interferes with or obstructs or prevents the free use of any street, sidewalk, or other public way.
(g) When a person has violated subdivision (f), a peace officer, if he or she is reasonably able to do so, shall place the person, or cause him or her to be placed, in civil protective custody. The person shall be taken to a facility, designated pursuant to Section 5170 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, for the 72-hour treatment and evaluation of inebriates. A peace officer may place a person in civil protective custody with that kind and degree of force which would be lawful were he or she effecting an arrest for a misdemeanor without a warrant. No person who has been placed in civil protective custody shall thereafter be subject to any criminal prosecution or juvenile court proceeding based on the facts giving rise to this placement.
Let's start enforcing it.
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 26, 2007 at 9:20 am
Resident needs to update his/her legal reference; 647(c) and (e)p.c. were both declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court and are therefore unenforceable.
647(f) requires that the person under the influence is "...in a condition that he or she is unable to exercise care for his or her own safety or the safety of others, or by reason of his or her being under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any combination of any intoxicating liquor, drug, or toluene, interferes with or obstructs or prevents the free use of any street, sidewalk, or other public way." Just ingesting alcohol, or having alcohol in one's system does not subject one to an arrest.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Visitor - Penal Code section 647 was amended in early 2007 (the version I posted). What was the name of the case that you refer to in your posting and when was it decided?
a resident of Mountain View
on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:37 pm
I spend a lot of time on Castro street in Mountain View. Panhandlers, disheveled beggars and wandering crazies exist, but are MUCH less omnipresent than on University Ave in Palo Alto. I used to live near Laurel St in San Carlos. I NEVER saw homeless there. My wife works in downtown Menlo Park. We don't see anything there like what we see in PA.
Clearly it is possible for towns in this area to minimize problems with homeless while staying within the bounds of the laws. PA can't seem to figure this our. So what do these cities know that Palo Alto does not?
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 26, 2007 at 1:22 pm
"I don't think that Walter's idea of a "caravansary" works in a built out area. Where would one put them, Foothill Park? Stanford dish?"
It is not compassion that moves my caravansary suggestion, it is sanitation. Unless you are willing to invoke a final solution, it is better to accomodate than to bellyache.
As for where? perhaps we can get a grant to reconstruct a Miwok village with up to date indigs. Where was the last one?
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 26, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Another idea. Can a person's DNA be recovered from a fecal sample? If so, take a DNA of all vagrants, and of all human deposits. A match and arrest the depositor and give him two years for abuse of public health.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 28, 2007 at 9:26 pm
I notice there is a homeless person living on the bench at the corner of Churchill and Bryant for the past few days. He stations there all the time either laying and sitting down. Just wonder what police is going to do -- if any.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 28, 2007 at 9:41 pm
Petey - That's a good point. The Palo Alto Police do not seem to know how to deal with the homeless. Their solution is to ignore and avoid them. They appear to be afraid to approach them and move them from benches on University Avenue that they occupy the entire day.
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 1, 2007 at 4:45 pm
I am glad some bothered to read my lengthy posting without nasty comment about word count or content.
John, we probably agree more than you might think, similar conclusions based on different reasons.
I was hoping to dispel some of the mythology surrounding the subject, and will endeavor to continue doing so.
I'll pass on taking the bait of the "excuse" versus "reason" usage debate. I was not seeking forgiveness or apologizing, simply explaining the reality (justified or not, I did not say I agreed or disagreed – remember, I said I took effort to hold back from opinion). The semantics of reason v. excuse can start a thread of its own.
To touch on opinion, the status quo sucks. Been there, done that, not a solution.
No one addressed my question related to the original posting – "What is it about the Opportunity Center that makes it a mistake?"
The thread, as often happens, shifted subject. It seems the focus is restating the problem, and asking why we don't, again, do what hasn't worked before. The migration issue is just that – something for discussion that doesn't advance any solutions. People in need gravitated to where they hear things are better. That's why some came here decades before the Opportunity Center was a dream. When Urban Ministry started in the '80's, it was to fill a need, it didn't create it. The OC did the same. It provides more housing and better access to medical and mental health care. Everything else was available in the community before, ineffectively scattered around town.
Not much has been said about why people are on the street (a contributing factor to mental health and substance abuse problems), or new ways of solving the problem. But if that's where this is headed......
Walter's idea, though noble, is impractical for the reasons you cite – where you get the space? Also, if there is such a governmentally sanctioned space, they will be held liable at some point by someone for something and get class-action sued for mega-bucks that will go to the folks staying there.
Yes, there are the "true bums" out there along with the truly needy. It would be nice if the fraud laws covered them, so they could be arrested. I find it interesting (and a bit scary) many blow off addressing the liars and cheats, yet advocate arresting those who are acknowledged as mentally ill.
There was little noise made when the institutions that could have provide treatment were closed. Something that should have been done then and wasn't, and the piper is now getting his due.
Does it really benefit them or us if they are cycled in and out of jails with inadequate treatment, if any? I know of people who have done 30 days or so, two or three time a year. And they almost always come back. And the process repeats.
If you don't want to shed tears over the people, that's your moral decision. However, like me and many others, you should be wailing over the tax dollars wasted on answers that attempt to manage the "issue", and not on solutions that mitigate the problem.
I agree, kid gloves may not be the ideal way, but how Stalinist dare we go ? (I almost said Hitlerian, but people who have never read Mein Kampf might over-reach the parallel, they will probably connect better with the Stalin reference – and similar practices, but I digress.)
The current practices, as mentioned before, were handed down years ago, by higher governmental entities than the city, as the best practice, more humane way, for addressing the problem. Like it or not, the laws and the court tests hold that a mentally ill person who is taking their meds is legally held as rational, and is legally competent for trial in court as we (in the "royal'', societal sense) have decided.
When medicated, they are allowed to decide – by law since they are now competent – they can care for themselves and take their meds because they say they will (try proving intent, or lack there of, before the fact).
There is precious little space in the facilities not closed be de-funding at the state and federal levels, for the truly violent (like someone who attacks a dog), let alone some who is just annoying (and, yes there are several I find annoying that you don't realize exist). That is why the California prison system has become the largest mental health care provider in the state – something that has hit the news, again, last week.
As I said in the previous post, places for the annoying, but non-violent were eliminated in the late '60's and early '70's by the state, because the state (i.e. Governor's policy) said it was a community responsibility. {I notice no one has yet connected the dots between state and federal philosophical convergence.)
The problem with many easy answers (answer v. solution – yeah, semantics again) posed by some people is the US Constitution, 4th Amendment, and the State Constitution, Article I, Section 1. (But don't jump to quick, that same clauses protects many rights we have to other things some people objections about.)
Resident from Crescent Park posted –
There are laws on the books which allow the police to place those begging downtown in custody for a few days without the need for another individual to be the motivating force behind such action on the part of the police.
There is no law against begging. Period. The California statue cited later in the posting {647 (c)} states that it is a misdemeanor to "accost other persons...for the purpose of begging", simply begging without accosting is not addressed.
And someone being cited for a misdemeanor or lesser violations, doesn't necessarily mean they are taken into custody.
Any lawyer or police officer will tell you, if the officer does not witness a misdemeanor act, they need a witness, which can be the victim, to sign a statement saying the act did occur. I know this is true because I was a battery victim, and even with the presence of my blood, and the paramedics, I still had to sign the citizens arrest paperwork while strapped to a backboard, because the person who called 911 was reluctant to do so.
I know of 2 citations written this year for 647 (c). In one case I know the victim. She was verbally threatened, the person was cited, and his mental health care provider whisked him off, back to San Mateo. In the second case, in was not prosecuted by the county. There were no reported threats, physical contact, or impediment posed. The complainant was bothered by the persistence of the panhandler repeating himself, louder, when he was ignored by someone he thought didn't hear him.
BOTH cases involved housed people, under the minimal care currently provided. Yes, one probably needs to be in a locked mental facility. The other might be better off at a facility that isn't downtown, and provides better oversight.
The police do want to do something about the problem, but in many ways, their hands are tied. Do you honestly believe they like the frustration of what becomes an anonymous nuisance complaint, with no witness to the act?
Resident, why did you include 647 (e) in your post? If they are unhoused/homeless, that is the reason – and not a crime. If they identify themselves – no crime. If they can account for their presence – like being in a public place – what are the grounds for arrest?
The police routinely enforce 647 (f) on the housed and those who are not. The officer has to take the person down to the Main Jail in San Jose on Hedding and book them in to holding. After 6 – 8 hours, when the person is "sobered up" and deemed no longer a danger, they are released with a citation to appear in court at a future date (unless they have an outstanding warrant of some kind). Then, the person is free to go wherever, including back to our fair city.
Unfortunately, 647 (g) is severely limited. There is no facility with space to take anyone who is simply under the influence of alcohol coming from the street, in custody or not, who is not medically compromised by their condition. The county alcohol residential facilities are full of people there under court order, and there is a waiting list for others under court mandate (647.2). Even those who are placed on a 72 hour medical hold rarely stay even that long if the doctors (no cops or judges there – it's totally a medical decision) deem they are safe to release. And their concerns are about the safety of the patient more than the safety of the community.
If you really want something to blow a gasket over, none of the above is intended to address the mentally ill, a big concern of yours. You should check into Welfare and Institutions Code Section 5150, an equivalent code to 647 (g), but for the mentally ill, works pretty much the same way. Both are a bit hamstrung by laws saying there a limits on forcing people to accept medical care if they are deemed rational enough to make the decision. Of course, that is unless a court says otherwise. But since they are not in criminal custody, doctors can't make they stay if they are okay when medicated. And when they are released, they go "home".
All of that being said – how do we propose to legally arrest someone who is begging if: they are not dangerously mentally ill, not under the influence of drugs they should not be taking, NOT under the influence of the drugs they should be taking, not intoxicated, not accosting people through verbal or physical threat, who are not trespassing, not sitting or lying on the sidewalk? (By the way, most times the latter 3 are only citations, no arrest.) (Here's a can of worms for you – why no mention of loitering?) (How about 647a (a) – transporting people to shelters? Perhaps it's because they must find one with space before taking them voluntarily to the shelter.)
Being in need is not a crime. Informing people of your situation is not illegal. How one does it could be illegal in some situations, but not all. And even housed people can be needy, or mentally ill, or abuse alcohol or drugs.
Resident, maybe we should meet for coffee and take a stroll down University together so you can show me the people you identify as homeless, and who you consider new. Personally, I don't see the numbers you allude to. Friday evening from 5:30 to 8:30 I walked through the library and wandered the avenue, and saw less than a dozen – most at the library. I saw 2 panhandlers, neither an unhoused/homeless person, and 3 street musicians – 1 how might not be homed anymore (once was, but he seasonally migrates, wintering in So Cal). The musicians were selling CDs, so the have some resources. But I digress, again.
(Oh, there's the vagrant and loiter words. Give up on vagrant as a legal tack – the word no longer appears in any state code. Loitering is vague {legalize for "iffy"} because the statute itself says there must be an intent to commit a crime. Generally it is limited to areas of high drug dealing, prostitution, or gang activity; most often it is enforced through court issued temporary restraining orders against individuals {Palo Alto has done it before, 3 times I know of in 7 years}.)
Berkeley likes the ideas of: stopping people from sitting on the sidewalk, "acting out" by yelling at passers-by, urinating in public, finding way to compel people to accept mental health and addiction treatment services. Shall we through the baby out with the bath water because Berkeley wants what you want? I don't follow the logic.
Perhaps we could take page from the Mountain View way, as is frequently suggested by some –
From the Mountain View Municipal Code:
SEC. 21.32. Sleeping on park benches, etc.
No person shall lie or sleep upon any of the benches, seats, or grass plots in any park
or public square or street of the city. (Code 1938, Sec. 501.)
Of course, some will say it doesn't do enough – it leaves out concrete, brick, asphalt, and gravel areas; and others will want exemptions for children (like the peeing in a park with no restrooms during t-ball). [I am not saying either side is wrong, but having to consider either extreme is silly.]
It may shock some a bit, but Palo Alto, and many other communities, has offered service to those in need for many. many years. Sometimes, it's pure altruism, sometimes it's guilt. Sometimes it's that faith community thing – Genesis 19 with the hospitality for strangers thing like didn't happen in Sodom, or the lessons Gospels – especially the Matthew 25 stuff. Yeah, the charity thing gets to be a problem when you allow a faith community a toe-hold.
Where people are drawn is often based on rumors they've heard. Where people leave is where they find the facts. When they learn there aren't three meals a day in Palo Alto, they drift away. The absence of a big shelter where they can come and go when they want, as loaded as they wish – they go elsewhere. When they learn every cop who has not seen them before wants to get acquainted, their comfort level send them to the bus stop. Not true for all, but makes many leave after a few days.
That's why most who are here are ones with ties here, and in most cases, fairly well behaved – or cycling though the system; such as it is.
I welcome Visitor's comments.
"As amended" doesn't include enforcement ability as determined by the courts (all the way up to the Supreme Court in some cases), only the text as adopted by the Legislature. One of the amendments was to move 647 (g) up the list from (ff) – a continuity issue I suspect.
As Visitor alludes to, 647 (f) addresses how functional one is, not amount of consumption. Since recent studies show those who admit to having alcohol abuse "issues" (I love that word – it's not a problem, only a concern. FYI – that is decades old rehab language which has crept into mainstream use.), 19% say that they are functional at work. (And people wonder why they have a problem with their bank account.) The denial factor about an "issue" is what scares me most.
Petey's comments raise an interesting question – how do you recognize a person as one living on the street? How, in fact, do you recognize someone who is mentally ill? Most mentally ill people not only deny they are, they suspect others of being the sick ones. That's scarier than the alcohol thing.
Petey, other cities are groping for solutions also. New practices are replacing ones that haven't been working over the past couple of decades. Because of the migration factor – yes, it exists – most are looking toward regional (multi-county) solutions. But they find barriers when coordinating action within their own county (mostly $$$ factors), progress is snail pace at best. {Look at San Francisco –they are a city/county entity and are digging with a rope handled shovel most of the time. Berkeley's bold steps balked when they couldn't move forward without commitments the county couldn't make.} It has happened here in Palo Alto too, but if you didn't read past the headlines, you missed it. And the good things as well. For the past 5 years or so, the reality here is, Palo Alto is ahead of the curve – but still dependent on outside support which is slowly coming.
However, that response doesn't satisfy those who want immediate action to a decades old problem.
I'm trying to not be an apologist – I detest the status quo at least as much as anyone else. It does little to address the needs of the community as a whole, and precious little to fill the needs for those who we all agree need help. But, like it or not, the stuff in the corral when the horse is gone is still what it was while the horse was there.
Sorry – my personal frustration got me. I just wanted to head-off accusatory, inflammatory comments trying to shift the topic to me, the facts as I know them, my opinion, or to anything else away from the point of the thread – What WE should be doing about a problem we agree is lacking in solutions.
I've gone too long again and should wrap-up this post.
I wasn't paying attention, and got sucked into the same vortex that tears this whole topic apart in any forum (live or online) and leaves everyone confused at best – most often frustrated and angry – because personal agendas become more important than action. The point where the "why people ended up here", and "they should not be here" dominates the topic and the "what do we do" elephant becomes secondary to the "blame game" and "it never should have happened in the first place" stuff that history is bogged down with, and detracts from moving onward.
New solutions are needed, the old methods obviously haven't worked. Isn't doing the same thing, the same way, in the same situation, over and over, and expecting a different result offered as a definition of insanity?
Let's move forward. What is, is; what's done, is done – the rain has fallen, the weeds are growing, the toothpaste is out of the tube.
Now, what are WE going do about it?
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 2, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Something different? Probably not. Incidentally, the closing of mental institutions was praised as a civil rights victory at the time. We might try what Sacramento did 50 years ago - 30 days on the work farm or a floater - Leave town, and if you are picked up again within the year you get 90 days.
a resident of South of Midtown
on Aug 5, 2007 at 12:30 am
Mitchell Park has become the Golden Gate Park of Palo Alto with enclaves of bench sleeping individuals. They used to hide on the otherside of the bridge over Adobe Creek where the police couldn't see them; now they don't bother they're out there sleeping on benches at the entrance to the park.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 5, 2007 at 8:29 am
Walter - you nailed it. I was just completing my studies in disabilities when the "civil rights victory" dumped completely ill people onto the streets with a few bucks and some clothes, said "good-luck" and shut down the former institutions where they were clean, safe, fed, got medical care, a social life and work to the best of their ability.
It was my first awakening into the world of semantics and baby-with-bath-water thinking. Why didn't we simply adjust the laws we had to protect those who COULD care for themselves from being forced into institutions? NOOOO, we had to do our usual, throw it all out and hurt thousands of people for the sake of a few.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 5, 2007 at 8:32 am
BTW to whomever stated that California changed in the 60s and the Feds in the 80s...the law at the Fed level changed in 1979..NOW put 2+2 together with accurate info.
a resident of Los Altos
on Jan 29, 2009 at 1:42 pm
There are about twenty negative comments about homelessness above. Everyone seems to want to end homelessness, but feel that it's not their responsibility. The government should do something, the police ect. Let me ask you: what have you done to help end homelessness?
As it turns out, homeless individuals are ACTUAL people, who are just low on luck. We need to help them on a personal level as opposed to just arresting them or trying to "get rid of them."
It is not difficult to help. You can donate money, clothes, toys or time to the Opportunity Center. You can set up drives to collect the items above. You can get your church or synagouge involved.
Please, get off your computors and have some sympathy for those less fortunate than you.
Imagine if you were homeless. It could happen...
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COLUMBUS, Ohio – Eddie Gaven's scruffy caveman beard belies that he is still a young in spirit and body, although Sunday will mark the completion of his 10th MLS season at the ripe old age of 26.
On Thursday, Gaven marked his birthday as he does every day at Crew practice, by working hard and giving an honest effort without pretenses.
"What's different than everybody is he treasures every single day," Columbus head coach Robert Warzycha told MLSsoccer.com on Thursday. "He has a very, very positive attitude. He doesn't have bad days."
That shouldn't change anytime soon, either.
"I'm a young 26," Gaven told MLSsoccer.com this week. "Hopefully, I've got another 10 years in me."
That could be scary for opponents because a decade after debuting with New York he is enjoying his finest season from a personal standpoint.
"It's crazy," defender Eric Gehrig said. "I'm two years younger than Eddie and this is my second year [in MLS] like a normal human being."
With five goals in the past 12 matches, Gaven has bettered by one his previous career-best of eight set in 2005, his final season with New York before being traded to Columbus.
He will attempt to add to the total and possibly break the team lead he shares with Jairo Arrieta when the Crew host Toronto FC in the season finale on Sunday.
It's a long way from being the youngest New York player to score (16 years, 232 days) – and the second-youngest in league history – when he grabbed the winner vs. D.C. United on July 5, 2003.
"Everybody thinks when they're 16 that they can play forever," Gaven said. "As you get older, you realize it's hard to stay at a high level. It's also hard to stay healthy as well. I've been very blessed this year not to get hurt, nothing too major.
"Being able to play soccer for a living and go out and run around, I'm thankful for every single minute and hope I can play as long as my body let's me."
Gaven shows no signs of slowing down, starting all 33 games this season and leading the club with 2,900 minutes.
As for Gaven's recent goal surge, he credits the midseason additions of forwards Federico Higuaín and Arrieta for making his job easier.
"They've made a huge difference," Gaven said. "Those guys gave teams a lot more to worry about which created some more room for me to get time and space on the field. I'm very excited to see what happens when we have one full year together."
Warzycha believes Gaven's season warrants another try with the US national team under coach Jurgen Klinsmann. Gaven has eight caps, the last coming three years ago when Bob Bradley was in charge.
"Jurgen has to give him a chance because Eddie works so hard," Warzycha said. "As a coach, you want a player that will play for you and give 100 percent every single day."

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Nice thread as always Crazy, lol @ Melo gettin what he wants. No better way to put it...
That Portland game means nothing to me, we caught them at the perfect time. If we can beat the Pacers tomorrow and Saturday then I'll be impressed
Nice thread as always Crazy, lol @ Melo gettin what he wants. No better way to put it...
That Portland game means nothing to me, we caught them at the perfect time. If we can beat the Pacers tomorrow and Saturday then I'll be impressed
Nice Game Thread Crazy...."Mike Woodson First"
the end of back to backs.
I really want the Knicks to win the first of the back to back to Shut-up the media....
the Larry Bird new Pacers has been "UNDERRATED" all season....throughout this
hectic 66 game season, the Pacers been using 11 players in their 9+ man rotation
that co-exist at a 65% gellin level.
The Pacers are more dangerous than the Magic in the postseason.
This is a must WIN game because.....
All these DAMN sports-analyst and top NBA commentators has been dogging
the shiiit out of the Knicks (this afternoon) over the Portland win....plus they
really dogged-out our garbage-time players (who havnt seen playingtime since
god knows when) for playing to the final seconds and to the crowd.
Damn, all we need right now is positivity. The Knicks enter a new era where their highly talented roster will be able to play in a much more standard system, with better substitution patterns that will allow all of our good players to show what they can do and gel properly.
I respect the Pacers, i think they're a solid playoff team. They probably will lose in the 1st round but i think they'll be very competitive. They just got barbosa, i think he'll help them some. I believe the Knicks have more talent but are we the better team? We will find out over the next 2 nights. I think we'll find out alot over the next 2 nights, i like the timing of this back to back
Danny Granger tweeted "We have two winnable games coming up" & for the clueless souls who don't know... our next two games are back to backs vs the pacers starting today. we need to pound these guys by 42. Yes thats very unlikey but we need to take it to them for that tweet
Alan Hahn (@alanhahn)
SHOTS FIRED: RT @Pacers: "We have two games against New York... very winnable games" @dgranger33 postgame
The message disappeared after the knicks heard about it, with carmelo telling MSG Network "well see im glad you told me about it"
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Great thread as usual my dude!
Well, like KingStarbury already pointed out...we find out what we really got as a team moving forward after these 2 games. I hope Granger's tweet made it on the bulletin board.
@ClydeFacts "When one of his ladys asked clyde why he doesnt text he said if you dont get the message by now a phone aint gonna help." Except for Kate. Wobble Wobble!
Great thread Crazy as per your usual.
I cant believe Granger went there. Who does this clown think he is Reggie Miller?
If anything the All-Star of his team should've tweeted that which is Roy Hibbert, Granger sux and is just a spot up shooter nowadays. He is in no place to say something like that, he sux major ass for that one.
Great thread Crazy
If i was Woodson I would print that Tweet out... blow it up... and put it on the board in the locker room.
Get mad.
I wouldve rather Magic, Philly, or Boston in a back to back for Woodson 2nd & 3rd game
as headcoach....The Indiana Pacers halfcourt pressure defense has kept their oponents
under 100 points....Pacers has been winning off of their Defensive pressure & Defensive Bigmen....
the game thread poll shouldve been how many offensive-rebounds the Knicks get....total in two games?
Off topic but anyone knows how to exceed the 10 kb sig limit? I see a bunch of people with big ass sigs that i know aren't under 10 kb, please i want a Jumpman sig that i like.


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I know there's another thread like this, well, it's similar, but that thread is more of a 'hey, the movie is out, here's the link! Watch it now dammit!'.
This thread will be dedicated to discussion about the movie, which means SPOILERS, so unless you want it spoiled, go to the other thread: by Totsuka no Tsurugi and follow the link to the movie(I'm watching it on another site though).
Here's what I think, well, I've only watched 2 min and 10 seconds by now, still, the opening scenes are so awesome, this movie deserves this thread, so that more people will become aware and start watching it and if they don't even know about the series, then watch it!
Now then, about the first 2 min and 10 seconds, EPIC!!! Please continue since I can't find better words for it, what did you think? Use spoiler tags if there are any spoilers, just in case, please.
Edit: Full name seems to be: Fullmetal Alchemist: The Sacred Star of Milos, Plateau of Sorrow.
Edit#2: This world of anime/manga... IT'S BEAUTIFUL!
I finished watching it and it was GUREATO!!


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Press Release
St. Louis County Library's Winter Reading Club will kick off November 1 and run through January 31, 2014. All ages are invited to participate. Registration begins November 1 and participation is free; simply stop by any St. Louis County Library branch to sign-up. For more information please call 314-994-3300, visit www.slcl.org or follow the Library on Facebook (www.facebook.com/STLCoLibrary) and Twitter (@SLCL).
The Winter Reading Club will have two categories: ages 0-11, and 12–Adult. Those in the younger category will be encouraged to read for five hours; those in the older group will be asked to read four books to complete the club. Those who do will entered into a prize raffle. Each of the library's 20 branches will choose three winners in each age group.
Prizes for the kids include: sleds, movie gift cards and family memberships to The Magic House. Prizes for teens and adults include: movie gift cards, Amazon gift cards and Kindle Fires.
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Shelly Aaland has been let go as Fort Lewis Colleges womens volleyball coach.
Fort Lewis officials would not comment Monday on the move, the motivations for it or whether Aaland, who headed the program for 10 years and is the only coach to guide the Skyhawks to the NCAA Division II Tournament, will remain with the college in any capacity.
Aaland, however, still was coming to grips with it Monday night.
I didnt see this coming at all and am still trying to wrap my head around it, Aaland said in a text message to The Durango Herald. I am very disappointed to leave the program. I have been a part of this program since 1995 and am very proud of my conference title and two appearances in the national tournament.
This team will be very successful next fall. I had one of the strongest recruiting classes coming in. I wish them well.
FLC Athletic Director Gary Hunter would not comment on the record.
We do not have an announcement and will not have an announcement until (Tuesday) at the earliest, said Chris Aaland, assistant director of athletics for communications at Fort Lewis. There are some HR (human resources) things that the college needs to sort out.
Chris Aaland also is Shelly Aalands husband.
During her 10 years at the helm of the Skyhawks, Aalands teams posted an overall record of 129-148 and 89-99 in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference. The team went 11-16 overall last year, 7-12 in the RMAC for a fourth-place conference finish.
Those 129 total wins place Aaland, who also served as an assistant coach from 2001-03, third all-time in program history. Marcy Jung (1886-98) is the all-time leader with 218.
In 2006, Aalands Skyhawks earned a berth to the programs first-ever NCAA Division II Tournament. They repeated that feat in 2007, when the Skyhawks won their first RMAC title since 1994, as well as the RMAC West Divison title.
Their 17-2 conference record that year tied perennial power Nebraska-Kearney for the regular-season title, and those 17 conference wins surpassed the previous program record of 12.
Each of Aalands teams also maintained grade point averages higher than 3.19.
Aaland also was a four-year letterwinner for the Skyhawks from 1995-98, where she led the RMAC in service aces as a junior with 0.48 per game and was second in the league as a senior with 0.40 per game.
As the starting setter her senior year, Aaland was chosen by her teammates as the 1998 teams most valuable player.
Aaland ranks second among the Skyhawks career leaders in services aces with 0.42, fourth in total service aces with 106, fifth in assists per game with 5.79 and sixth in total assists with 1,447.
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Hello, all,
I cant figure out what kind of window /control to use in program for communication:
- user will input trough keyboard, on 'Carriage Return' will send entered string via serial port - so user's input should be written into window as keystrokes are detected.
- remote device will answer trough serial port. On some character program will trigger and
output received string on same window, possibly - in different color, or in right half of
- some 'history' of sended/received messages is desired .and scrolling through this history
is desired too.
I'm absolute beginner and need to learn much. Any advise - where and what to look will be helpful.


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Croaking is the equivalent of death in Erfworld. Units which are croaked have zero hits and cannot be healed.
While an Erfworlder will instinctively understand the words "kill" and "death" to have the same meaning, it is not a normal part of their vocabulary and they will find it vulgar if they hear it from someone else, like a Stupidworlder.
Croaked units leave bodies, which exist as physical objects for a short time after croaking. Bodies disappear at the start of the next turn that their side has, unless moved/claimed (e.g. uncroaked, reanimated as golems, eaten, used for something else like the teddybearskin rug and mounted gwiffon head in Parson's room)Erf-b1-p035. In the event that their side is eliminated, unclaimed bodies disappear at the next nightfall.
Proposed Canon
Some speculation exists as to whether burying a corpse counts as moving it, and whether a body thus moved remains to be uncroaked or decrypted.
Due to the facts that Wanda had to retrieve the body of Manpower Erf-b1-p3 and later said that they had to capture Ossomer, rather then croak and drag the body over to GK's hex afterwardsErf-b2-p6, there is speculation that moving a dead body from hex to hex causes it to be impossible to uncroak/decrypt. The evidence either way is weak though as somebody was going to have to retrieve Manpower's body so it may as well have been Wanda who could uncroak it immediately; in Ossomer's case, Ansom wanted Ossomer alive to try and turn him, Wanda decided she wasn't going to bother and decrypted him instead.


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Michelly Rall/Getty Images"Oprah's Next Chapter" may have seen record ratings two weeks ago; however, it's not enough to save her OWN network from the brink of disaster.
On the coattails of OWN announcing a 20 percent staff layoff, research and investment firm SNL Kagan said The Oprah Winfrey Network could lose $142.9 million this year, leaving many to wonder whether Discovery may pull the plug on its big investment and raising concern advertisers may begin to pull if the ratings don't rise.
Despite double digit growth, showcasing more of the Big O, injecting big name Rosie O'Donnell into the mix and receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from Discovery the channel cannot hold its own.
We've pulled together the numbers foreshadowing OWN's trouble from the start.
Huge expectations:
$239 million: The amount Discovery Communications invested in OWN. They initially committed $100 million, agreed August of 2010 to add an additional $89 million. February, the company invested $50 million more. WSJ reported the actual total as $314 million this week.
$220 million: the amount of revenue OWN was expected to bring in by 2015, according to Benjamin Swinburne, a media analyst at Morgan Stanley.
685,000: Viewers lost in first week. OWN's prime-time viewership dropped from 1 million to 315,000 in four days.
Poor Social Media Marketing:
181,907: number of people who follow the channel's official Twitter handle: @OWNTV
10 million and counting: number of people who follow @Oprah on Twitter.
Twitter / @OWNTV
1.3 million: People who have liked OWN's Facebook page.
Compare this to: 6.8 million following Oprah's personal Facebook fan page on Facebook.
40 million: number of viewers per month since September.
42 million: number of viewers ABC's "The Oprah Winfrey Show" used to get per week in just the U.S.


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Radford center Artsiom Parakhouski has one goal: to become the first Belarusian to play in the NBA.
It's a lofty goal, no doubt. But when one reviews the road Parakhouski has traveled so far, there is little reason to believe he can't make it. You may not have heard of him yet, but the NBA sure has.
The Toronto Raptors had a scout at Radford's practice on Monday, in fact, as the 6-foot-11, 260-pound senior continues to play his way onto the radar of a draft lacking center prospects. Parakhouski leads the nation in rebounding at 12.9 per game, is second in field goal percentage at 63.2 percent and third in scoring with 24.1 points per game. He had double-doubles at Duke (23 points, 14 rebounds) and Kansas (21, 13) and has scored in double-figures in every game. NBADraft.net projects the senior to go early in the second round, while DraftExpress.com has Parakhouski as the last pick of the first round -- a spot that would make history in his home country.
"That is my goal," Parakhouski said of the NBA (heavily emphasizing the "N" in his Russian accent). "I'm trying to prove that people in my country can be in the NBA if they want to be."
At 6-foot-11, 260 pounds, Artsiom Parakhouski is one of the few true center prospects in college basketball.
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There is no doubt that there is money to be made from working online whether it is a full time job or something that you do in your spare time. However, what would be the best ways to make money for one person may not suit another person at all. This is because the money making ideas you come up with must suit your interests and personality. If not it will not pan out because you won't enjoy the work.
Finding out how to make money at home starts with making a list of topics that you are interested in. If you have training in a specialized field, then you can really make a lot of money online because just as there is a need for your services offline, there is perhaps an increased need online because you can have clients from all over the world. If you have experience in the medical field, for example, you can create a website in which you provide essential information for people about various diseases and illnesses.
By adding Google Adsense to the pages of the site, you can make money from the ads. In order to make any amount of money from this program though you need to use keywords that pay a substantial amount per click and are ones that will receive a lot of traffic. This is what you have to look for when you intend to use the Adsense program to generate an income. The number of searchers must far outnumber the number of sites offering the information in order to earn money from your site.
Selling online is one of the best ways to make money online because it is basically the fastest way. If you have anything around the home that you no longer need, you can easily advertise it online and if the price is right it will sell very quickly. Many people make a business of this that they run from their homes. It doesn't have to replace your regular job because you only have to check your emails or return phone calls to complete the transactions.
You don't need to have any amount of prior sales experience to do well in this area as one of the ways to make money from home. Once you get a feel for what people want to buy you can look for the items at sales events and garage sales. In this way you will be providing a service for others and make money at the same time.
There are many ways of selling items online even if you don't have any items of your own to sell. Dropshipping is big business. In this work you simply create a website around a product line and write content that promotes the items. When you receive an order for the product, all you have to do is resend the order to a warehouse that will ship it directly to the customer. You collect the payment from the customer, deduct your profit and remit payment to the company. All the shipping and handling is then done by the warehouse so you don't have any extra work to do.
Those are just some of the best ways to make money online. There are many more ways you can do it, so do some research and find the one that is the best for you. After you have some experience you can always branch out into other methods.


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I can't seem to use a trading platform since it has migrated to websockets.
when I disable ZA ES it works fine.
output from -websocketstest.com/result/333984-using ZA ES is that I should be able to use websockets. (with the disclaimer that FW or AV could block it still)
I have been troubleshooting and trying to find blocked ports but there is nothing I could find to make it work (apart from shutting down ZA).
Is there some setting in ZA so that I can enable Websockets.
If not, how can I get websockets to work together with ZA?
thanks in advance for any feedback!


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phpMyGPX is a Web application based on PHP, MySQL, and OpenLayers to manage photos and GPX files with a browser, on your local machine or online, to share your tracks and images. GPX is an XML file format containing track points and routes collected by GPS receivers, and is very popular with navigation, geocaching, and OpenStreetMap.
A Java SE 6 compliant JVM with AOT compiler and deployment toolkit.
A server configuration enforcement and logging service.


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Is there any reason why you could not switch from XML::XPath to XML::LibXML? The code should be portable, except for a few constants that need to be renamed, I think.
In any case, if you have spotted improvements that can be made to the XPath engine of XML::XPath (as opposed to its DOM implementation) I would be interested to hear about it for XML::XPathEngine [cpan.org], which is a fork of that engine.
A quick switch of using XML::LibXML for Test::XML::XPath doubled the test time for one of our tests. Of course, that was a single test run and there could have been other issues involved.
The major issues I saw for XML::XPath were getting rid of a lot of "shift" statements in favor of list assignments directly from @_. There is at least one wrapper function which should be an alias and a rather curious looking AUTOLOAD. Also, some of the C-style for loops can be worked on.
Other than that, I haven't lo
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XML::LibXML takes a lot longer than
XML::XPath, there's probably something bad going on.
In this case, I'd guess that the "something bad" is that
XML::LibXML (or rather, the underlying
libxml2 library) is loading external DTDs over the network. I can parse an 18-megabyte XML instance from a file in a little under a second on my laptop, once I turn off DTD loading.
Turning off the "run very slowly" flag can be done like thi
You are correct that something was wrong. Turns out it was a completely unrelated error. Regrettably, we've discovered that we can't just switch over to XML::LibXML because we have two different namespaces and XML::XPath was letting us ignore this issue (this was in place long before I started). We have about 237 YAML documents driving our acceptance tests and they have multiple xpaths embedded which would presumably have to be changed to deal with this
In the interest of correctness it should be pointed out that
XML::XPath is in violation of the XPath spec here, and that matching namespaced elements in XPath always requires binding a prefix to the namespace.
We are aware of this. We're just in a bad position with some legacy code and since it hadn't been addressed previously, we need to figure out the easiest way to move forward.


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Is anyone familiar with SPEC and their CPU2006 benchmarks?
SPEC is a non profit organization that includes hardware and service vendors (From Acer, Intel, IBM, to Red Hat or VMWare) and that aims at producing standard performance evaluation tests, aka benchmarks.
CPU2006 is a package of proposed standardized cpu benchmarks aiming at testing:
CPU integer and floating-point precision performance
The system memory architecture
And the user compilers
I'm especially interested in understanding the general feel the community has for these tests; Whether SPEC has come up with a good methodology and whether -- for those that may have dabbled deep within any of the individual benchmarks source code -- if there is a sense of a reliable benchmark strategy.
I may soon have access to the CPU2006 set of tests. The objective will be to help come up with a subset of that package that can be integrated into a CPU Test Suite workflow for a tech news website. But I'd like for opinions beforehand. Most especially on the quality of these tests, in case anyone has any knowledge of them.
As a parallel discussion, I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on compiler performance benchmarking.


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A daughter of Kellis Oliver and Ina Syrna Taylor Clay, she was born Aug. 20, 1920, in Mounds, Okla. She was a member of the First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), a bookkeeper and a former Jaycette. She loved to play bridge.
She was preceded in death by her husband, Ray Price; two brothers, Virgil and Arvel Clay; and a sister, Irene Clay Price.
Survivors include a sister, Dorothy McVay of Russellville; several nephews and nieces; great-nephews and nieces; and great-great-nephews and nieces.
The funeral service will begin at 11 a.m. today, at the Shinn Chapel with the Rev. Dana Hoover officiating. Burial will be in Rest Haven Memorial Park under the direction of Shinn Funeral Service.
The family will receive friends from 10:30 a.m., until service time at the Shinn Chapel.
Memorials may be made to the First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), 103 South Boston Ave., Russellville, AR 72801.
The online obituary and guest book are available at www.shinnfuneral.com.


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LUNCH Menu
Grilled, Fried or Thai Spicy Style 8.95
Mozzarella Caprese
Fresh Mozzarella Cheese, Beefsteak Tomatoes,
Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and Aged Balsamic Vinegar 7.95
Crab Bruschetta
Lump Crab Tossed with Olive Oil, Basil, Onions, and Ripe Roma Tomatoes on Toasted Rustic Bread 8.95
Traditional Bruschetta 4.95
Crab Quesadilla
Lump Crab Meat, Cilantro, Scallions, Jalapeño and Mozzarella Cheese topped with Guacamole, Tomato Bruschetta and Sour Cream 9.95
Rustic Bread Topped with Goat Cheese, Ripe Roma Tomatoes, Onions, Kalamata Olives, Basil, and Fresh Mozzarella, Baked 6.95
Seared Ahi Tuna
Sliced and Served with Pickled Ginger, Spicy Aioli and Baby Arugula 9.95
Crab Dip
We use Only Jumbo Lump Crab Meat 10.95
Lazy Man's Steamed Shrimp
1/2 lb Peeled Shrimp with Old Bay, Onions, and Cocktail Sauce 8.95
Clams Casino
Chopped Clams, Bell peppers, Garlic and Seasoned Bread Crumbs Topped with Bacon 6.95
We also serve a delicious lunch buffet with many choices from 11:30 am to 2 pm. So stop in for some great, fast selections if you're on the run!
~ Most of Your Old Favorites are Available Upon Request! ~
also featuring an approved Ideal Protein Weight Loss Menu
(prices may vary slightly by location)