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Where you live?
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very sex
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He throws her out in the hallway with his cum on her face... laughing my ass off.
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Dude busted a huge nut
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nice video and she is hot!!
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nice tits but what about her pussy?
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Video was Eh. Ending made it so worth it.
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What's her name on exploited teens?
He Really gave her all of his cum out them nuts now can I cum on her too
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pequeñita y preciosa
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@ Alice--RU crazy after it unloaded you can still slurp it up and not miss a drop.....
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LAKEWOOD RANCH — Ryan Sollazzo doesn't have all the right moves.
By his own admission, the Lakewood Ranch High forward isn't known for his fancy footwork or individual skill set. But, what Sollazzo might lack in mechanics, he more than makes up for in speed.
Sollazzo has been using his speed to exploit defenses all season, and last Wednesday night's Class 4A-District 11 championship versus Manatee proved no different.
The Mustangs started strong in the first half; players pushed the ball up the field to Sollazzo.
At that point, it was up to Sollazzo to break down the Hurricanes' defense and put the Mustangs on the scoreboard.
"The whole idea was to just keep sending it to the front," coach Vito Bavaro says. "We knew Sollazzo was faster than their defenders, and the whole idea was to get one-on-one with those guys and send the ball through. If we could do that, we thought we had a pretty good chance to knock the ball in."
Lakewood's game plan worked to near perfection. Sollazzo scored a pair of goals in the first half to power the Mustangs to a 2-1 victory Jan. 25.
"We wanted to get on the board and score first and put the pressure on them," Bavaro says. "They're a good team, and we're a good team. We're the two best teams in Manatee County, and hopefully we'll see them in a couple of weeks."
Lakewood got on the scoreboard 19 minutes into the first half when Sollazzo scored off a missed shot that rebounded off the Hurricanes' goalkeeper and off an assist from sophomore midfielder Jake Dube.
"The first 20 minutes is the most important," Sollazzo says. "That was our chance right there."
Sollazzo scored again less than a minute later off an assist from senior midfielder Jimmy Jaime.
"The first goal usually gets your adrenaline pumping, so you're faster and just ready for more," Sollazzo says. "It's a lot easier to score two goals back-to-back then it is to score goals at separate times."
It was Sollazzo's second two-goal match in as many games. Sollazzo also scored a pair of goals in the Mustangs' 4-0 district semifinal victory over rival Braden River Jan. 23.
"He's got a tremendous amount of speed and a lot of heart," Bavaro says of Sollazzo.
Manatee responded when Carlos Reyes found the back of the net about nine minutes before halftime.
From that point on, the Mustangs were focused on keeping the Hurricanes from tying the game. Senior midfielder Jason Ferguson dropped back to play defense in the second half.
"It wasn't on us to score goals at this point," Bavaro says. "We just had to hold them. I would've liked to have one more (goal). Two would've been better. But, with that one-goal lead in a district tournament like this — one goal is all you need.
"Luck was on our side today, and I'll take luck over skill any time of the week," Bavaro says. "I'm proud of the boys. We're looking forward to a deep (regional run)."
With the win, Lakewood played host to District 12 runner-up Naples Gulf Coast in a Region 3 quarterfinal match Jan. 30. The winner will play the winner of the quarterfinal between Manatee and Barron Collier in the regional semifinals Feb. 2.
Contact Jen Blanco at [email protected].
LAKEWOOD RANCH — Ryan Sollazzo doesn't have all the right moves.

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Partying teens took the "Bling Ring" concept to new heights after breaking into and trashing a swanky SoCal mansion, making off with $1 million in rare collectibles and then trying to sell them online, authorities said.
Sixteen people -- 13 juveniles and three adults -- were arrested and charged with felony grand theft and trespassing for allegedly breaking into a La Habra Heights home and "hosting" a deejayed party between 4 p.m. Nov. 23 and 9 a.m. the following day.
A stuffed white leopard worth $250,000, a WWII Nazi helmet and thousands of dollars in Armani suits were among items seized from the opulent mansion, which featured fountains, a grand staricase and indoor palms trees.
The ringleaders likely found the home, which is for sale, online, said Sheriff's Capt. Tim Murakami. They then advertised the party on social media, drawing an estimated 100 guests, Murakami said.
Witness accounts describe a scene in which looting partiers broke a 16-foot window near an underground swimming pool and then ransacked the home. "It started almost a frenzy," Murakami said.
"We're concerned for a number of reasons, not just the obvious reasons of trespassing, burglary, vandalism, but also drug use, sexual assaults," said Chief James Lopez of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. "Obviously alcohol and drugs are prevalent there."
Authorities served warrants in the cities of La Habra and Whittier, and in unincorporated areas near Whittier, and arrested the suspects, most of whom were high schoolers from Orange County. The parents were "all cooperative," Murakami said. "And of course embarassed."


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- Lotus news
Lotus unveils E21
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Lotus has become the first team to unveil its 2013 car as it launhced the E21 at its factory in Enstone.
The team launched the car via its YouTube channel, with the new car still featuring the stepped nose and also featuring the Coanda-effect exhausts it introduced towards the end of 2012. Technical director James Allison said that the car may look similar to its predecessor but that a number of features beneath the bodywork are different to the E20.
"I can assure you we've done a lot," Allison told Sky Sports. "The whole team here has been working heart and soul on this thing for a long time. But first to launch is nice … there's a lot that's go in to it and it's going to be an exciting car.
"The rules in 2013 are very, very similar to those in 2012 so you can expect a lot of family resemblance from 2012. But as always in Formula One the devil is in the detail and it adds up to a significant amount of performance. There are lots of new ideas and some concepts which we've been pushing on with for a few years.""
Lotus finished fourth in the constructors' championship last season and team principal Eric Boullier confirmed the aim this year remained improving on that result.
"We will try [to challenge for wins] definitely," Boullier said. "Third place is at least an achievement we will have for next year. We would like to build on the momentum from 2012 … everyone here at Enstone is really, really keen to improve on 2012."


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Ryan and Melanie Ritchie of Maumelle announce the birth of a son, Beckham Clark Ritchie, on Monday, July 1, 2013, at Baptist Health in Little Rock. Birth weight was 8 pounds and 4 ounces.
Grandparents are Howard and Becky Ritchie of Russellville and Diane Cook of Texarkana, Texas.
Great-grandparents are Hilda Harvell of Ratcliff and Floyd and Helen Turnage of Texarkana, Texas.
Beckham's aunts and uncles are Andrea Nicholson and her husband, Lannis, of Russellville, Jennifer Odle of North Little Rock, and Melissa Wiencek and her husband, Justin, of Scott.
Beckham's 5 year-old brother, Hudson, 3 year-old sister, Lexi, and six cousins welcome Beckham to the family.
Mary Boley-Finley of Russellville and Kenneth Finley of Earle welcomed their daughter, Harper Willow Finley, born July 1, 2013. She weighed 7 pounds and 9 ounces and was 20 inches long.
Harper has two brothers, Ian Boley, age 12, and Nathan Boley, age 10.
Her grandparents are Teresa Colaizzi of Russellville, Randolph Phillips of Alma, and Diane and Mark Finley of Earle. Great-grandparents are the late Sid Skaggs of Roland, Okla., Betty Skaggs of Russellville, the late Billy Ray Phillips and Ernestine Phillips of Alma, George and Linda Porterfield of Mt. View, Clara Hooker of Camden, Sharon White of Durant, Okla. and the late Jimmy Taylor of Idabel, Okla.
Tamara and Chris Beck of Dover welcomed their daughter, Abigail Mercedes Beck, born July 21, 2013. She weighed 8 pounds and 3.2 ounces and was 21 inches long.
Abigail has one brother, Alexander, age 6.
Her grandparents are Verna and Dewey Boxnick of London, Carolyn and Dusty Shelton of Dover, and Patti and Keith Beck of Dover. Great-grandparents are Reece Hogins of Dover and Zelma Boxnick of London.
Mary Melissa Burton and Ryan Keith Crowley of Russellville welcomed their daughter, Lila Jae Crowley, born July 22, 2013. She weighed 6 pounds and 8 ounces and was 191⁄4 inches long.
Lila has one sister, Alyvia, and one brother, Devin.
Her grandparents are Valerie and Mark Roys of Russellville. Great-grandparents are Mary and Richard Shinkowski of Russellville and Patricia and Robert Howell of Denton, Texas.
Michele and Johnny Brazil of Russellivlle welcomed their daughter, Elizabeth Grace Brazil, born July 22, 2013. She weighed 8 pounds and was 19 inches long.
Elizabeth has three brothers, Johnny Jr., age 25, Casey, age 14, and Cody, age 13, and two sisters, Jessica, age 22, and Isabella, age 4.
Her grandparents are Jane Robinett and Tom Robinett of Dover.
Shelbie Griffin and Andy Brock of Atkins welcomed their daughter, Blaykieigh Taylor Brock, born July 23, 2013. She weighed 8 pounds and 6 ounces and was 203⁄4 inches long.
Her grandparents are Kyle Griffin and Jennifer Griffin of Dover and Janie Brock and Scotty Brock of Hector. Great-grandparents are Thomas and Carolyn Girffin of Dover and Ruth Brock of Alread.
Her uncles are Cort Griffin of Dover and Aaron and Thomas Brock of Hector.
Elizabeth and Jeremy Grooms of Atkins welcomed the son, Tristan Alan Grooms, born July 25, 2013. He weighed 6 pounds and 4 ounces and was 20 inches long.
His grandparents are Margarett Huggs of Hector, Larry Higgs of Morrilton, Susan Grooms of Conway and Franklin Grooms of Houlka, Miss.
Haley Hoyt and Drake Odle of Russellville welcomed their son, Sy Lawson Odle, born July 26, 2013. He weighed 7 pounds and 9 ounces and was 20 inches long.
His grandparents are Tim and Carolyn Hoyt and Wendy Odle, all of Russellville.
Dara and Johnathan Leavell of Russellville welcomed their son, Lawson Daniel Leavell, born July 27, 2013. He weighed 7 pounds and 11 ounces and was 21 inches long.
His grandparents are Randy and Beverly Leavell of Russellville and Dowey and DeLetta Daniel of Van Buren.
Sandra Grinder and Christopher Caughern of Dardanelle welcomed their son, Christopher Braxton Caughern, born July 28, 2013. He weighed 5 pounds and 9 ounces and was 19 inches long.
Christopher has one sister, Lakin Grinder, age 15.
His grandparents are Jerry and Ellen Grinder, and Dottie and Larry Coughern, all of Dardanelle.
Denise Caro and Salvador Avila-Villegas of Russellville welcomed their son, Jaden Jesiah Arila, born July 28, 2013. He weighed 9 pounds and 2 ounces and was 22.5 inches long.
Jaden has two sisters, Jalyn E. Arila, age 3, and Jahira E. Avila, age 1.
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Movie Review
The Lone Ranger
Rated PG-13 for action, violence and suggestive material. Two hours, 29 minutes.
Publication date: Jul. 5, 2013
Review by Peter Canavese
Released: (2013)
But it?s hard to shake the feeling that director Gore Verbinski and executive producer Johnny Depp are getting away with something. Again.
Like their collaborations on ?Rango? and (albeit to a far lesser extent) the ?Pirates of the Caribbean? movies, ?The Lone Ranger? flaunts eccentricity and edge not commonly found in big-budget studio movies. Verbinski, Depp and screenwriters Justin Haythe and Ted Elliot & Terry Rossio draw on a wide range of influences to create an action blockbuster that?s as disturbing and melancholy as it is fanciful and fun.
With a pointed framing device, the movie initiates its own conversation of making a postmodern Western. In 1933 San Francisco, before the backdrop of a half-constructed Golden Gate Bridge and an escaping red balloon of innocence, a little boy (Mason Elston Cook) walks into a Wild West exhibition and up to a display labeled ?The Noble Savage in His Natural Habitat.? The image before him is no wax dummy. In a bit of magical absurdism (by way of ?Little Big Man?), it?s a 100-yearold Tonto (Johnny Depp), who tells his story to a confused child who is the audience?s surrogate.
In 1869 Texas, an action sequence shackles (à la ?The Defiant Ones?)
Tonto to John Reid (Armie Hammer, well cast). He?s the man who will
become The Lone Ranger ? but not before we see him reading John
Locke?s ?The Treatises of Government? and averring, ?This here?s my
Bible.? Reid?s arc will be one of disillusionment, passing through greed and corruption to arrive at the conclusion ?If men like him represent the law, I?d rather be an outlaw.?
This pop-culture reboot ? an example of Hollywood?s current default
position ? operates in large part as a deconstruction of its source material, including the Lone Ranger?s historical trust in government, and Tonto?s nickname for him, ?Kemo Sabe.? What used to mean ?trusty
scout? now means ?wrong brother,? a gag that punnily evolves in meaning from distrust to ?brother from another mother?-hood. In sun-cracked white face paint and with a dead crow perched atop his head, this Tonto is both a typically oddball Depp creation, and an embodiment of the sane insanity of the unfathomably victimized: If he?s a fool, he?s a holy fool.
Plenty is wrong with Verbinski?s movie, which goes on far too long while still shunting women to the margins. Depp?s talent aside and the actor?s unverified claims of Native American heritage to the contrary, I wouldn?t blame anyone for taking offense at what might be called ?redface.?
But the ethical ironies don?t quite seem lost on the filmmakers. Along
with the shovelfuls of sugar that are some pretty spectacular action
sequences, this ?Lone Ranger? prompts ?The Cosplay Kid? of the
Comic-Con era of cinema to swallow the sins of our forefathers and
the ones we countenance today.


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Dear Bengt & Linda,
Could you help me with the following guestion (I have examined the Mplus manual for this but I'm unable to produce the figures I need).
I have specified and multiple indicator growth model (three time points), and include in the overall model also two observed variables measured at T1 and T3. I would like to display regression curves from the level factor to the observed variables at T3, while controlling for the intial level of the observed variables. There is also a multigoup situation here, the variable used in the grouping obtion moderates these relations. I would produce the figures separately for the two outcome variables, both of which would contain regression curves in two groups of individuals.
The multigroup situation is not a problem (except that the program aborts when I try to view estimated means), but I don't know how to specify the plot -command correctly. Also, I'm guessing that the regression relation among the level and the outome variable should be included in the syntax while preparing the output to view the graphics - what exactly should be included in the syntax?
Also, what would be the correct option in the graphical display for this situation? So far, I have been able to display a scatter plot of the level factor as a function of the T3 outcome variable in the two groups, but I would need the reggression curves instead (i.e., utilize the Beta values of the level factor in predicting the T3 outcome variable).
I'd like to display the figures in Mplus, because I'm using the missing data option as well.
Thank you so much!
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This type of graph is not available. You need to include the MODEL command if you want graphs based on the model results.
Linda K. Muthen
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Can you send your input and data to
so we can look into the multiple group graphics problem.
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Google's Self-Driving Cars are a "Threat" Says GM
Jason Mick
May 30, 2014 8:00 AM
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GM is taking the project seriously
General Motors Corp. (
) gave Google Inc. (
) its begrudging regards this week after
hearing about the Mountain View, Calif. company's vision for autonomous vehicles
I. GM on Google -- It's a "Real... Threat"
While it looked a bit like a Volkswagen AG (
) Beetle smacked with the ugly stick a few more times, Google's in-house design for an autonomous electric vehicle (EV) is turning heads based on the sophistication of its driving and collision avoidance. Google is building a fleet of 100 of the bulbous 2-seaters to test its smart driving technology.
At an event in the Detroit, Mich. area, GM's Product Development chief, Mark Reuss was inevitably asked to weigh in on the excitement surrounding the Google fully autonomous smart car. He did not hold back, responding:
Anybody can do anything with enough time and money. If they set their mind to it, I have no doubt [that they will be] a very serious competitive threat. [The car is] kind of cool [and looks sort of like a VW Beetle].
[Automation is] going to be a creep, it's not going to be a mind-bending thing. I don't think you're going to see an autonomous vehicle take over the city anytime soon
Google's automated car is a "threat" according to GM's Product Development chief.
GM certainly seems an authoritative voice on the topic.
In April 2014 in the U.S. it sold over 254,000 automobiles internationally, ahead of Ford Motor Comp. (
) (210,000+) and Toyota Motor Corp. (
) (199,000+) [
]. GM was sales king of the auto industry longer than any other company in the history of the automobile.
From 1931 to 2007, GM sold more cars and trucks than any other automaker. And even as it's struggled to hold back a surging Ford and to regain its lead from Toyota, GM is still seeing strong sales. (Volkswagen was the
only automaker to beat it
in 2013, a bit of a surprise.)
And it's good to see such straight talk from GM and an earnest assessment of its possible future competitor.
II. The Race to a Smart Car
For years we heard lots of automakers pay lip service to the concept of autonomous driving, with some even spending a good deal of money and time investigating it. GM was perhaps foremost in the field prior to its bankruptcy. Over a half-decade ago, back in Jan. 2008 we road along in a modified 2008 GM Tahoe which won the
DARPA's (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)
2007 Urban Challenge
GM's 2008 Chevy Tahoe, modified for the 2007 DARPA Urban Challenge
[Image Source: Jason Mick/DailyTech LLC]
As the car zipped around the obstacle course in sunny Las Vegas, Nev. it quickly became apparent why the vehicle won the smart car challenge -- it was pretty good at avoid collisions... really good, in fact. As a demo, a second test driver would cut off the GM car or otherwise block its path. In every case the GM vehicle knew what to do, performing better than many human drivers would in such a case.
But after the
bankruptcy rolled around in mid-2009
, the pace of development has slowed, in some regards, allowing the U.S. automaker's foes to catch up. GM's current plans for commercialization involve
a more scaled back version of the technology
called "
Super Cruise
" which is only semi-autonomous.
The technology will allow the user to hand off control to the vehicle during long highway drives, but otherwise will drive like a standard vehicle. GM wrote that the technology will "use a fusion of radar, ultrasonic sensors, cameras and GPS map data, seamlessly integrated" to perform "semi-automated driving including hands-off lane following, braking and speed control under certain driving conditions."
But GM added in on a cautionary note:
The system is designed to ease the driver's workload on freeways only, in bumper-to-bumper traffic and on long road trips; however, the driver's attention is still required... because the system will have operational limitations based on external factors such as traffic, weather and visibility of lane markings. When reliable data is not available, such as when there are no lane markings, the system will prompt the driver to resume steering.
In other words, this smart car was only so smart.
III. GM Not Alone in Struggles Toward Full Self-Driving
The limitations echoed Ford -- currently the world's second largest automaker -- which
in 2010 introduced a semi-autonomous parallel parking
Called Active Park Assist
(APA), the system provided so-called "electronic power-assisted steering" (EPAS).
In other words, it basically steered for you and tried to tell you how long to press the gas and when to brake via various beeps. The clear issue, as I saw it during a
2011 test drive
was that the technology would do nothing to stop the user from bumping a car in front of or behind it. And by detaching the driver from part of the maneuver (steering), but not all of it (gas/braking), the maneuver almost felt more dangerous/risky to perform at times.
In my experience the system was workable, but at times seemed more frustrating than simply performing the maneuver on your own.
Toyota had a near identical system -- the parallel park system (PPS), which handled the gas and steering, but not the brake. Toyota
first introduced the system in its Lexus branded luxury models
. It also integrated smart braking technology to avoid objects in driveways, etc. via integrating millimeter wave sensors and the braking system into a collision avoidance algorithm.
Ford has been active since, working on an improved version of its lane keeping technology
called Traffic Jam Assist
, which mirrors GM's "Super Cruise" in providing semi-autonomous highway driving. That technology should arrive around the same time as GM's. In the meantime Ford has added
perpendicular parking
to its portfolio, courtesy of French supplier Valeo S.A. (
). Volkswagen had been using Valeo's
Park4U system
parking system since the 2011 model year [
Last year Ford added one more trick, upgrading the system to be fully autonomous. With the new system the owner could activate the parking maneuver via a key fob and the Fully Assisted Parking Aid (FAPA) would activate
driving the vehicle into or out of a spots
. The feature has proven to be especially useful in preventing scratching to other drivers' doors.
IV. Google + Tesla? Be Afraid.
What every automaker should be most fearful of is Google and Tesla teaming up. The pair has
already expressed interest in such a union
; as mentioned, Larry Page is a Tesla Roadster owner, as is Google's R&D chief Sergey Brin.
Other than Google who is close to full automation? GM, Ford, Volkswagen, and Toyota are all pursuing the safer, but less exciting route of partial automation for highway traffic. It is unclear if any of these companies' plans involve merging onto or off of highways; it appears that the automation may solely be limited to highway driving at certain speeds.
Nissan Motor Comp., Ltd. (
) is taking a similar route, but it might be a bit ahead given that it
not only is testing autonomous cars on a Japanese highway, but is merging on and off
. Its autonomous Leaf EV drove itself on the highway trip at speeds of 40-80 km/hour (~25-50 mph).
Nissan has set a target of 2020
for "autonomous" vehicles with Autonomous Drive; however, it is unclear whether that target includes urban/city driving.
Nissan's Autonomous Drive LEAF EV aims for a 2020 launch. [Image Source: Nissan]
Sweden's Volvo AB (
) is building fully autonomous driving systems which should
merge onto and off of highways by 2017
. During
my time with Bayerische Motoren Werke (BMW)
) at CES 2014 I talked to some of their senior engineers and learned that they too were testing automated vehicles. Those tests are currently confined to the track, but it's possible BMW may field a self-driving coupe in the same timeframe as Volvo.
V. Google has Mastered What Its Rivals are Still Trying to Achieve
But to be honest, GM is right. Automakers should be worried about Google. Because everyone -- and truly every one of them -- is far behind Google.
Google's project
began in 2010
. At the time, many believed the power of
a supercomputer would be needed for city driving
. Many dismissed the project as a joke or gimmick
Two years later Google had
300,000 hours miles of automated driving without an accident
. (Google's fleet consists primarily of retrofitted Lexus RX 450h and the Toyota Prius hybrids.) Two years later, Google's fleet has logged 700,000 miles of autonomous highway travel. It's clear that Google's highway driving technology is basically done, versus even Nissan who is still in the testing phase.
Google has already moved on to finishing a far more ambitious set of algorithms -- routines for
city driving
. So far the fleet has logged "thousands" of miles in city driving, leading to vital algorithm improvements.
VI. City Driving is Final Test for Google
CEO Larry Page recently said that
Google has no competitors
. And it truly believes that. In two years it did more than the rest of the automaker did in the last decade, when it comes to automated driving.
The evidence is strong that Google's new self-driving car is not intended as a full fledged design, but as a design focused on urban environment. Evidence of that is found in its top speed -- 40 km/h (~25 mph) -- which may be sufficient for a crowded city like New York City, but not for highway driving.
[Image Source: Google]
Google is so confident in its new design that it's made the bold move of gutting the vehicle removing nearly all controls, including the brake and gas pedals and the steering wheel, something none of the traditional automakers would dare to do. The new Google X design has two buttons -- Start and Stop. Program the route and car does the rest.
It's slightly disconcerting and terrifying to think that the Google car's two occupants have no means of controlling the vehicle. But when you think of it, such feelings are, statistically speaking, overconfidence. As Google points out 1.2 million people die worldwide in traffic accidents and 90 percent of those are due to human error.
From everything we've seen thus far, you're probably safer allowing Google's algorithms to steer for you.
GM, to its credit has
a city-street pod car of its own it's testing -- the EN-V
. By the sound of it that vehicle is still being prototyped, though, and has yet to hit city streets. GM is developing the curious compact at one of its research facilities in China.
The GM EN-V concept vehicle [Image Source: Autoblog Green]
So when all is said and done, it looks highly unlikely anyone will beat Google to the goal of fully automated driving from point to point. Tesla Motors has probably the best plan -- if you can't beat them, join 'em.
VII. The Android Edge
Even if some other car company -- say GM -- manages to pull abreast of Google in the automation race, it's highly unlikely that its vehicles will ever be as effective at driving. The reason for that is that Google is continuously mining data -- including location data -- from tens of millions of Android smartphone users across the U.S. It's almost a given that Google is looking to use this dataset to provide predictive capabilities to its driving algorithm.
Smartphone tracking could give Google beacons to improve its self-driving performance.
[Image Source: Pete Warden and Alasdair Allan]
In other words, Google's cars will be more fuel efficient and safer because they
effectively have a beacon
on a good deal of American drivers -- regardless of how new or old their car is. No other company can claim that.
"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance." -- Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
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Marsha-SM:Rich came through his hip replacement surgery well this morning.
So glad to hear Rich's surgery went well. I hope you can get some rest.
Doing some press'n'sew. Flannels I bought some time ago. Having issues with my iPad so some of my posts may be odder than normal
I know, I know. Pictures upside down. At least they posted!! Got the fabric at a guild garage sale and made enough blocks for two lap quilts. Probably for Christmas,min just have to find smashing and cornerstones. I have a stack of flannel left for another, simpler quilt.
So glad to hear that Rich came through his surgery well. Now don't try to tackle too much and wear yourself out before he gets home and you are playing nurse. Ginny
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Debbie:Kelley - those are so cute. what's the block called?
Thanks Debbie.. the pattern is called pin curls, by Me and My Sister Designs
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That turned out nicely! Good work...
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explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 12,028Taking a quick trip to Michigan and back this weekend for my nephew's graduation party. About 1600 miles round trip, 3 or 4 people in the car.
My normal driving is averaging 27.5 mpg, but I still only just hit 2400 miles after 14 weeks.
I like Sat radio because there are no commercials, you still get the human component and I like the themed channels. It's great for listening to sports on a long trip, too.2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
...and I know that Toyota has a history of cars that have longevity, especially in countries where they are barely ever serviced and keep soldiering on and I respect that...but every car has weaknesses, and Toyota owners replace alternators, water pumps, and batteries just as often as many other sedans and compacts...(like Civic vs Corolla vs Sentra). I know because my mothers last car was an 01 Sentra and it never, ever broke down in 170k. We sold it to a friend, and he is still driving it on the original clutch at roughly 200k. My mom drive a stick till she was 73!
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The small offset frontal crash test was introduced in 2012. Many vehicles that were re-designed for this year, like Accord and Altima, were able to take this new standard into their redesign. Camry was redesigned in 2012 so has not been able to do so yet. Because the test is new the institute gives two safety ratings now, Top Safety Pick for the ones that pass all the other tests, and Top Safety Pick Plus, for the ones that pass that one too.
By the way, I am not a Camry fan. But I certainly consider it a safe vehicle.'14 Buick Encore Convenience
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PCM, the format used by audio CDs, is just a digitized analog signal; i.e. the measurements of the amplitudes & frequencies of the audio wavelengths. There is some support for "compression" within the PCM data stream but it's not the same kind of compression that goes on when converting to MP3 and most other formats. It's more of a shorthand notation for the signal v. an alteration of the signal.
Remember that the CD audio spec was published in 1980 (before the original IBM PC) and early CD players were little more than digital-to-analog converters.
CD audio bitrate is a hair over 1.44 Mb (not MB) per second.
As to Sirius & XM, they sound good enough to my non-audiophile ears. I'm far more irritated by terrestrial radio's love of boosted bass/lower frequencies.2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
...and also to be fair to Toyota, new models are penned out almost 5 years in advance, and it is harder for a huge company to react to a new safety standard quickly. I am sure they will fix it in 2014 models.
Then again, Honda is a just as big, and they managed to design for it. As the head of highway safety said, Toyota's engineers have work to do, and I am confident they are doing it.
Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX
...and also to be fair to Toyota, new models are penned out almost 5 years in advance, and it is harder for a huge company to react to a new safety standard quickly. I am sure they will fix it in 2014 models.
Then again, Honda and Nissan are just as big, and they managed to design for it. In short, as the head of highway safety said; Toyota's engineers have work to do, and I am confident they are doing it.
Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX
Actually the flatbed operator specifically said the Prius. He said that when the hybrid battery is completely dead it will not run; even though the gas engine is fine. I told him that I have read that the Prius is bullet proof, and that NY cabbies speak highly of them. I also mentioned that maybe it seems that way due to sheer volume of Priusussez on the road.
I have not had time to research these claims, so I was not going to post anything specific until I can cross reference specific examples and exact cause of the alleged electrical issue(s).
I found a couple of articles and found them helpful, but this is the mid size sedan forum, not the hybrid forum.
So, All I will do here is post a link to a Popular Mechanics article that totally explains the complaints I found in a Prius forum. It isn't a big deal really...but stranded is stranded and I am sure it only reinforces range anxiety when dead battery is the cause on a hybrid.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/repair/what-to-do-when-your-hybrid-c- ars-battery-dies
Look at the second paragraph marked "Prius" in bold.
Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX
According to Toyota the battery is designed to last the life of the car, defined as 180000 miles. In 42 states the warranty is 8 years or 100000 miles; in the rest 10 years or 150000 miles. Many batteries have lasted even longer. The Prius battery has an unusually low failure rate.
Sounds like anecdotal evidence to me.'14 Buick Encore Convenience
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It isn't even the hybrid battery that is the cause. It is the normal 12 volt battery that all cars have.
In the Prius, the 12 Volt battery powers up the computers and electrical system, and then the hybrid battery starts the car. If the small 12 volt battery is dead, nothing works. It can be jumped though just like a normal car.
Owners are stranded when they run the cars radio and A/C in the wrong mode while "idling".
Just read the article at the link I posted.
Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX
Sorry, your original post referred to the hybrid battery: "When the hybrid battery is dead it will not run." As you say the small battery can be jumped, so no need for a tow. This would apply also to midsize cars like the Camry hybrid. Fears about the battery are not a reason to avoid these cars. Back to midsize sedans.'14 Buick Encore Convenience
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Correct me if I am wrong, since this is all based on memory, but the first two cars to get "Good" on the small offset test were the Volvo s60 and the Acura TL. Neither were redesigned for 2013. I believe the Toyota RAV4 was redesigned for 2013 but Toyota has requested that it not be tested yet for small overlap until they make some more design changes.
This test didn't pop up overnight, auto companies knew it was coming. Some companies are more pro-active, others take their chances before investing money on safety. Take a look at real life injuries in the HLDI statistics. Year after year, medical payments concerning Camry accidents are above 20% of the norm. They have had enough time to address this issue. It appears that profits come ahead of safety for Toyota.
Lossless audio bitrates typically run in the 500k to 1MB/second realm.
So is this in the same context as akirby's quote? "Digital music (satellite, mp3) is by definition compressed. MP3s have different bitrate settings (128K vs. 192K vs. 256k etc.). "
And fushigi's quote: "CD audio bitrate is a hair over 1.44 Mb (not MB) per second. "
i.e. Bitrate specs are always measured by the number of kb/second? So a CD basically has the potential to sound about 5 1/2 times better than the best MP3 file created at 256k?
With satellite there is another compression layer. There is limited bandwidth on the satellites so they compress the signal even further to fit more channels in. akirby
I have to say this sort of confirms my suspicions in the past. I have heard a sat radio stn on a reasonably capable living rm surround sound system, and I must say the CD sounded noticeably better to my ears. There is something flat sounding (or something..I can't quite put my finger on it) to the sat signal. I have to say I am not a fan. When I travel in the car (and most definitely when I am home) I like being able to choose what I want to listen and when I want to listen to it. I am not one of these people who like to be surprised by the next song. In fact I am the exact opposite. I anticipate the next tune coming. I never use the 'random' option when hitting play.
The quality of the device is also a factor - ipod vs. cheap mp3 players or gps.
So this is pretty interesting. But if I am understanding correctly, an iPod uses a totally different set of parameters when it digitizes the music? Or if that is not correct...and the best MP3 file is 256k, and most CD's are at 1.44mb, what would the iPod be considered? I still do not own one, and is more to do with my ignorance of that whole world. My priority ever since the first MP3 came along and then other apparent better sources of pocket music, was the quality of the sound. I have been spoiled for CD's and don't mind one bit having to carry the more bulky CD's, and even popping one in a single player at a time, as long as I have that option. But in car shopping lately, I see that some brands are starting to actually forego the CD player altogether. And that has made me sit up and pay attention because it could be I finally have to get up to speed so-to-say, but want to invest in the best way which keeps the digital signal as clean as is (reasonably/$) possible. I'm trying to avoid buying the wrong thing and having to rebuy shortly after.
Another question, which I'm sure will sound fairly rudimentary to you guys, but..if you use an iPod, it is like a recording device right? Like an MP3 or way better? And do you have to use a Mac when transferring files? Does it have the ability to go 'online' if you were to purchase an iTune, or is this always handled through a Mac or a PC?
Thanks again for your patience, andre and akirby and fushigi.
I had heard that one of the Prius' weakness is in fact the basic 12 volt systems battery. You would think that they would do two things. a) use a far more capable battery, even if it had to be the weight of a full-fledged deep cycle trolling motor battery, as a systems battery. Or, b) don't have big draw items like A/C etc at idle require anything from a mediocre systems battery.
So to me, even though it is what it is, that particular aspect would not tarnish the car's reputation in my books. I can say this with certainty, because the small battery in most Hondas (mine) is frustratingly in over its head in the dead of winter most times, (I literally carry a booster pack with me as a backup) and even in the summer if the car has not run in 10 days. I have to use a trickle charger on it during the times I use the bike often in the summer. And no, it does not have a short drawing too much current when shut off, it is just a carpy battery with too little capacity for the chores expected of it unless the engine is running practically daily.
So if I owned a Prius, I would just carry a little motorcycle battery (basically what I think they use, according to the descriptions I have read) as a spare. I'd be a lot more concerned if it had other issues that necessitated the flatbed.
IMO, these crash tests are in some part at least all marketing. You don't even have to read between the lines to see manufacturers using their own words, basically suggesting that...once we know the test, we can design the car around the test and make it shine above the competition. But make that barrier a slightly different shape, or just 2 or 3 inches off from the point of impact one way or the other, or one that also can conform upon impact and all of a sudden the parameters of a crash have been changed drastically. All bets are off.
So in a way these tests are a bit of a farce. That said though, I don't dismiss them, because in the public eye it can affect depreciation and resale values on your chosen vehicle.
So a CD basically has the potential to sound about 5 1/2 times better than the best MP3 file created at 256k?
Not necessarily. First, CD audio is not really compressed. There is a lot of data in an uncompressed stream that really won't affect your listening. For instance, CD audio is, IIRC, good for up to 44.1kHz of audio signal but few humans can hear much beyond 20kHz.
A poor analogy can be made with pre-HD OTA TV broadcasts: If your old tube TV had it's vertical sync off, the picture would roll. In the rolling picture you'd see a black area. That black area was part of the broadcast signal; it wasn't created by the TV. In that area there was room for additional info like the Second Audio Program (SAP) and Closed Caption subtitles.
CD audio should be superior to an MP3 but it depends on how the MP3 is created, the source material, and the playback environment. And your ears & predispositions.
I have heard a sat radio stn on a reasonably capable living rm surround sound system, and I must say the CD sounded noticeably better to my ears. There is something flat sounding (or something..I can't quite put my finger on it) to the sat signal.
Broadcast signals - terrestrial and satellite - can also be remixed to meet the specifications of the broadcaster; i.e. kick up the bass, lop some off the top end, etc. This happens before the track is compressed.
So the difference you hear, while it may be from the compressions used, could easily be from some producer's (misguided) mindset of what their audience wants to hear.
.. an iPod uses a totally different set of parameters when it digitizes the music?
An iPod or other MP3 device only digitizes (encodes) if it's actually recording. It does not digitize during playback; it's doing the reverse. To your point, though, there are differences in MP3 players in terms of how they convert a digitized datastream to analog (decode). [buzzword: codec = enCOding + DECoding algorithm]
My priority .. was the quality of the sound.
Use a lossless codec/compression scheme that your playback device supports. That shouldn't be a problem for any modern MP3 player, including iStuff, PCs, Androids, generic MP3 players, and so on. The only drawback is that the files may take more space than a more highly compressed MP3. Not a big deal with 32+GB units so cheap.
...if you use an iPod, it is like a recording device right? Like an MP3 or way better? And do you have to use a Mac when transferring files? Does it have the ability to go 'online' if you were to purchase an iTune, or is this always handled through a Mac or a PC?
They usually can record but will excel at playback. If you have CDs to convert, us a PC (Win/Mac/Linux doesn't matter).
A Mac is not required if you buy iStuff; iTunes is the management software and it's available for Windows as well as Mac. That's about the extent of my Apple knowledge as I haven't bought into their proprietary ecosystem.
For Android, you can download songs you buy from the Google Play store, download via browser, and copy to the device through Windows Media Player, Window Explorer, or virtually any other means of copying files. Copying via WMP etc would also apply to other MP3 players.2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
Couldn't disagree with you more. The small offset was developed because of the significant amount of serious injuries/deaths involving frontal collisions despite the fact that just about every car was acing the moderate overlap and frontal crash tests. Instead of mandatory requirements, we allow automakers to use their own judgment in regards to how well they want to do on these test.
The public unfortunately doesn't factor these tests or HLDI results into resale. The previous generation Accord for 2008-2010 only got three stars for rear side impact. Hey, this is a family sedan with kids in the backseat but still hasn't impacted resale values. With the revised test for 2011, Honda decided to make some changes to improve the rating. For those of us concerned about safety, we need more of these tests if we want to see improvements in structural integrity, especially with automakers now ignoring safety by enhancing the driving experience with distractive internet apps
If I am paying $35,000 for a loaded Prius though, I am not going to carry an extra battery on top of the two batteries it already has! It should start! Lol.
I do understand that you live way up in Canada, so that is a little different.
Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX
Good insight. In the end it is us as consumers that need to do research before making decisions on a purchase. Especially when there are kids involved. I knew my Optima was a top safety pick + after achieving an acceptable rating on the small frontal offset test. Watching crash test video of the ones that failed made me shudder, especially when the driver misses the front airbag altogether and slams his head into the B-pillar, plus crushing his legs. At least death would be instant. Hopefully. :sick:
Seriously, folks thinking about a Camry I would just wait for a refit, or if you can't wait; there are 6 other brands to choose from.
Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX
I could not agree more. We have a 2000 accord as one of our cars and plan to replace it solely because it has only two airbags. We ruled out the current camry because of the offset crash test. All manufacturers were made aware of the new test and given time to adjust, but Toyota opted not to do that until they were embarrassed publicly. We've decided to wait for the 2014 camry to come out to see if they took care of the offset crash "failure". In the meantime, we are testing a few other cars to consider. We plan to buy once the new crash test results are available for the 2014.
I'm holding out on the camry for the safety updates, but also because of the power driver seat. Not sure which four ways the seat goes on the camry, but hoping "up" is one of them.
We just got back from a 10 day trip to Maine. The first five days we had a Malibu and the last five days (we changed locations in Maine and asked for a different car) we had an Altima S model. We drove just over 750 miles on the Malibu (34.2 mpg) with no highway driving. We put just over 1250 miles on the Altima (35.1 mpg) and roughly 300 miles were highway. Our assessments:
Malibu - (8,000 miles on odometer when we got it)
Pros: Power passenger seat that went UP and down - a great feature for a wife who is 5' 3" tall; soft touch materials throughout interior; incredibly smooth ride; great steering with quick turning radius and nice exterior appearance
Cons: ugly/poorly designed dash layout that probably belongs in a 60s pickup truck; noisy and underpowered engine – constantly shifting; poor stereo system – would not want that in anything I owned; poor rear visibility – we always used a spotter to backup – the car needs a backup camera
Altima- (build date Feb 2013 with 4,000 odd miles on it when we got it)
Pros: great visibility including rear; a very solid, firm handling car with great steering (drove like it was on rails – even better than our 2000 accord); excellent stereo system; comfortable seats just like our accord; we saw this car as very much like our 2000 accord with some electronic upgrades and a cheapened interior
Cons: when we first opened the door my wife said exactly what I was thinking – CHEAP!!; hard plastic throughout (much like our venza); cheap/tacky cloth on seats and door (door "cloth" looked like it was felt from a pool table); lots of "lugging" like a rubber band or if it was a manual transmission it needed to be downshifted (particularly noticeable on takeoff and when on cruise control on a hill and between 20 and 30mph when taking off); (at times, the exhaust rattle made it difficult to tell if it was lugging or the exhaust rattling); loud clunking in right front end like something was loose; passenger airbag light kept coming on so we had to stop the car and have my wife exit the car and reenter to get the light off; wind noise on driver side door (nothing like the typical accord, but noticeable when radio not being played). We felt the Altima was made to do one thing - get good gas mileage. It just felt like it didn't have the takeoff power or power to sustain itself on a pull - as if it was always a few hundred rpm lower than it should have been.
We would not buy either of these cars and I never thought I'd say this, but if I had to own one of these cars I would take the Malibu before the Altima. We knew the Altima did better than most cars on the partial offset crash test and that is why we asked to drive one for days 6-10. We'll keep looking. We may consider another accord, but not the first year model with new direct inject and a new cvt transmission. We had three transmissions put in our 4 cylinder 2000 accord (under warranty) and Honda's reputation for transmissions is as bad as their reputation for engines is good. We're in no rush.
Why is it that you felt completely safe 10 years ago driving in cars that were nowhere near as safe as the worst cars today?
Below a certain speed no serious injuries will occur. Above a certain speed and death is certain no matter how good the vehicle is made. The odds of being in an accident where you are going the exact speed where it matters and you hit the other object at the exact angle to duplicate the test results are astronomical.
Why is it that you felt completely safe 10 years ago driving in cars that were nowhere near as safe as the worst cars today?
With age came wisdom.
backy Twin CitiesPosts: 18,910Yeah, my first car, a 1966 Dodge mid-sized sedan, had no radio, no carpeting (just rubber mats), no power steering or power-anything except brakes, 4-55 A/C, bias-ply tires, no wheel covers (just little hubcaps), no airbags, no 3-point belts (only lap belts). Maybe would get 20 mpg on the slant six engine. Was pretty typical for the time. Seemed like a pretty safe ride when I drove it... but it was all I knew.
But I like the current crop of mid-sized sedans much better... in safety and every other respect.
I really like the way you are able to look at all the details and thoroughly review potential new cars before hitting the dealership, but the Malibu and the Altima 2.5 S you rented are bottom-of-the-line models that may not have been treated nicely. The better interior furnishings are just one small step up, and you get a lot for very little more ducat's.
Have you considered looking at the Optima EX? It has really, really nice materials in the cabin including leather inserts in the doors, seating surfaces (8 way power drivers seat), shift knob, and the armrest. Also has very classy looking dark Zebrano wood accents, and real aluminum trim around the shift lever, more power than any other mid size, a smooth shifting 6 speed with sport shift, and lastly 17" alloy rims instead of 16" hubcaps. I got mine for $21,800! (sticker $24,260). It is refined and a gorgeous car designed by Peter Shyer who was head of design at Audi. The LX Optima starts at $20, so for 1800 more I have a much nicer, near luxury car. It would be comparable to the Altima 2.5 SL, Mazda 6i Sport, and the Accord Sport.
What about the new 2014 Mazda 6i Sport? It is a LOT of car for $21,500.. and I think it has a passenger seat height adjustment, and a gorgeous design.
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imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 21,497Which model year Malibu did you have?
I'm with Cski that some rentals are special packages with minimum interiors and radios because the renters are not going to appreciate those to the degree the rental companies would have to increase the cost--remember Hertz wants the lowest bid on these things.
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Let me clarify - I'm all for improving safety. Offset crash testing was good. Side impact testing - great. Side and curtain airbags - fantastic. However, at some point the improvements become cost prohibitive and real world impact becomes too small to make it worthwhile. You have to draw the line somewhere and I don't think the IIHS wants to do that because then they become irrelevant.
We plan to look seriously beginning in August and probably buy in August or September, but thought we'd try different rentals as we take our trips in order to give us a feel for what the company has to offer - even if it is the bottom of the line (the Malibu was the bottom of the line and the Altima was one step up from the bottom of the line, but the drivetrains are the same as the top of the line - if sticking with a 4 cyl). I have no intention of walking into a dealership for a beating and would rather rent something to try them out.
You only buy so many cars in a lifetime and one really bad experience can stick with you. I bought the RX-7 the first year it was out (1979) and my dealings with mazda left a very sour taste in my mouth. No love for Chrysler after two of those either. In 2010, we drove the 2009 and 2010 sonatas. We liked the 2009 more than the 2010, but bought a venza. The passenger seats in many of the sedans are just too low and that was the case with the 2010 sonata, too. I hadn't really given Kia much thought and may give it a look. We lived in a rural area without much traffic so the Honda didn't bother me. Now that we've moved to a more densely populated area and everyone seems to be distracted with their electronic gadgets while driving and better safety technology is available we have decided it's time to get rid of the accord. We mostly just use it for very short trips in town. I don't think we've put 1,500 miles on in in the past year.
If you find the passenger seats too low won't that be the case with almost all midsize sedans? Maybe you should be thinking of something different -- a small crossover like the Honda CRV or Kia Soul? Just a thought.'14 Buick Encore Convenience
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Shoppers haven't exactly flocked to the new Malibu so it has gone through a mini-redesign after one year. Great deals on the 2013 now.
From USA Today:
With updated styling, General Motors hopes Malibu will sell on looks again as well. Buyers will note the change right away from its new front end. The appearance now is closer to its big sister, the redesigned 2014 Impala full-size sedan. The changes are a very quick refresh of the Malibu that was redesigned for 2013.
The new Malibu goes on sale in the fall.
Actually, I think the IIHS would like to become irrelevant. It is financed by the insurance industry and I'm sure the insurers would love cars to be designed so that there would be minimal injury claims. If the NHTSA had more robust testing, they would happily close up shop and use that money for more marketing and bonuses.


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What do you guys think of Fields,Walker, and Douglas for Gordon Heyward of the Jazz? The money matches up perfectly.
Amare for darvin ham
Just out of curiosity:
What are the chances of getting Kevin Love?
Below 5%?
Just asking, because he'd be the perfect PF in D'Antoni's system. Great rebounder, workhorse, scorer AND great outside shooter to spread the floor. He's also young and quite athletic now (with his slimmer body).
Any chances to get him?
Personally, I think that Memphis wouldn't pull the trigger on this because of Amar'e's pitiful play recently.
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Chandler and Amare for Glen Davis and Ryan Anderson
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Amare and Chandler for Howard and Turk.
Looks solid to me.....not going to happen obviously, but solid.
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trade Amar'e for Carl Landry please. Carl is a hard defender, and his offense were fabulous with Rockets. Plus Knicks can save some money. They can take some Hornets contracts, such as Trevor Ariza, etc, who is an excellent spot-up 3pt shooter
doubt we will ever be able to trade amare. he is not good, plus he has that huge contract nobody wants.


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The new incarnation of the rock musical Bare opened Off-Broadway at New World Stages on Sunday, December 9, 2012. Featuring music by Damon Intrabartolo and book & lyrics by Jon Hartmere, Bare is directed by Olivier Award nominee Stafford Arima (Carrie, Altar Boyz) and choreographed by Emmy Award nominee Travis Wall ("So You Think You Can Dance"). Additional music is by Hartmere and Lynne Shankel (Altar Boyz, Cry-Baby, Company). Music supervision and arrangements are also by Lynne Shankel.
The company features Jason Hite (Jason), Taylor Trensch (Peter) and Elizabeth Judd (Ivy), with Gerard Canonico (Matt), Jerold E. Solomon (Father Mike), Barrett Wilbert Weed (Nadia) and Missi Pyle (Sister Joan). They are joined by Anthony Festa (Swing), Casey Garvin (Zack), Ariana Groover (Vanessa), Sara Kapner (Madison), Alice Lee (Diane), Megan Lewis (Swing), Justin Gregory Lopez (Beto), Michael Tacconi (Nick) and Alex Wyse (Alan).
Bare is an exhilarating new rock musical that follows a group of teens trying to navigate the tightrope to adulthood over the minefield of high school. Along with their teachers, they will wrestle with issues of identity, sexuality, religion and love.
Let's see what the critics had to say...
David Rooney, The New York Times: Like the "Carrie" redux before it, the new "Bare" seems a bland attempt to reboard the emotional roller coaster of adolescent ecstasy and agony that was the musical "Spring Awakening." Travis Wall's somewhat random gesture-based choreography only makes that comparison more obvious.
Joe Dziemianowicz, New York Daily News: Regrettably, "Bare" sags from the same overly familiar and narrow focus that worked against it in a developmental version I'd seen in 2004. It seems more than ever stuck in a time warp. The kids on stage may carry iPhones, but the psychology seems rooted in another decade, definitely one pre-"Glee"...Despite predictable turns and characters...there are funny lines. Some of the songs are surprisingly big-hearted and affecting. Movement by Travis Wall ("So You Think You Can Dance?") adds flow and energy. Director Stafford Arima, who covered another chapter of adolescent behavior in the short-lived musical "Carrie," has assembled a talented cast that is uniformly strong. Barrett Wilbert Weed, as Jason's druggy goth sister, stands out with her honeyed vocals. And Missi Pyle brings down the house as the Virgin Mary in a glittery nightclub act. Pyle steals the show. If that's a sin, amen to that.
Tanner Stransky, Entertainment Weekly: There are good things about the show, though. The ever-sharp Missi Pyle (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) plays a smart, understanding nun and delivers handily during a hilarious scene where she also channels the Virgin Mary as a nightclub performer. Elizabeth Judd and Barrett Wilbert Weed are standouts in a show in which the boys get the more central roles. And while simplistic at times, the pop-rock score by Damon Intrabartolo (with additional songs by Lynne Shankel and lyricist Jon Hartmere) is mostly inspired. B–
Matt Windman, AM New York: I saw the original production of "Bare," which featured an unforgettable performance by Michael Arden, several times...Eight years later, "Bare" has finally opened Off-Broadway...But this is not the same show. Now titled just "Bare," it has been extensively revised and updated under the sanitizing direction of Stafford Arima...Much of Jon Hartmere and Damon Intrabartolo's original score has been replaced with inferior new material by Hartmere and Lynne Shankel. The few remaining original songs have been altered beyond recognition...With the exception of Alex Wyse, the young cast is mostly devoid of personality. In the lead role of Peter, Taylor Trensch can't even handle the show's vocal demands. At least Missi Pyle and Jerold E. Solomon display depth as the resident priest and nun.
Frank Scheck, New York Post: The show, clunkily staged by Stafford Arima (who has some experience with this sort of material thanks to last season's revival of the similarly themed musical "Carrie"), is fun for a while, but soon gives way to wearisome melodrama. The derivative, unmemorable pop-rock score and generic music video-style choreography don't help matters. The mostly youthful ensemble deliver energetic, committed performances...And Pyle is terrific as the free-spirited nun. But the actors are unable to overcome their stereotypical roles. In the end, the show's title reflects not so much its troubled characters baring their souls as the material's essential hollowness.
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Next Tales game shows up in Famitsu scan
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Resolution: Declined
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I came across some strange behavior the other day in clojure.test/are, where the template replacement seems a bit over-eager. As a simple case:
(use 'clojure.test)
(are [x y] (= x y)
'(4 9 16) (map (fn [x] (* x x)) '(2 3 4)))
gives "java.lang.Exception: Unsupported binding form: clojure.lang.LazySeq@7bed76a7", but
(are [x y] (= x y)
'(4 9 16) (map (fn [z] (* z z)) '(2 3 4)))
is fine. It seems that all instances of the variable x get replaced, even the ones in other expressions that are doing the replacing. A macroexpand-1 traced it to clojure.template, and if I patch apply-template there to use postwalk-replace rather than prewalk-replace, clojure.test/are works as I had expected. However, the simple test case I wrote to expose this problem (wrapping deftest around the first example above) fails with what seems to me to be a bizarre error:
[java] FAIL in (can-test-using-local-bindings) (test_clojure.clj:87)
[java] but got :pass
[java] expected: (= (quote (4 9 16)) (map (fn [x] (* x x)) (quote (2 3 4))))
[java] actual: (#<core$EQ clojure.core$EQ@a947850> (4 9 16) (4 9 16))
Can anyone decipher why this fails, or come up with a better solution?
Converted from http://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/tickets/372
template-local-binding.patch - https://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/documents/bEvfq-BS8r36foeJe5cbLA/download/bEvfq-BS8r36foeJe5cbLA
stuart.sierra said: Reason for the bizarre error is the awkwardness of using clojure.test to test itself. clojure.test-clojure.test uses an alternate reporting function that looks at the doc string of the assertion.
This can be fixed by placing the can-test-use-local-bindings test in a different namespace.
stuart.sierra said: I can't reproduce the error. This works for me:
user=> (are [x y] (= x y) '(4 9 16) (map (fn [x] (* x x)) '(2 3 4)))
user=> (are [x y] (= x y) '(4 9 16) (map (fn [x] (* x x)) '(2 3 4)))
Could not reproduce the reported error.


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