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[Intro: G-Child]
Woo!, hey, this is the G-Child, spaceketeers
Are ya in the house baby, are ya in the house?
You know what I'm sayin, cuz it's that time
For you to kicks the funk online as we rewind
And then it will combine
[Verse 1: Mista Grimm]
Smokin' on the bud, feelin' kinda high
Sippin' on the gin, feelin' kinda fly
A Warren G production sits in the tape deck
As Mista Grimm raps over laps, don't say shit
Just, listen and recline for a spell
Pass the fat spliff back and forth (oh yeah)
Stuck, unable to breathe through the Chronic
Cloud that somehow prevents me from installin' fresh air
[Verse 2: Warren G]
Ahh, Indosmoke
Pass me the joint so I can take a toke
1 puff, 2 puff, 3 puff, 4 puff, 5 I'm feelin real high
Lean into the side in my muthafuckin' ride
With the O.G. gangsta glide
Woo!, hey now ya know
Inhale, exhale with my flow
Breakaway, come again like this
The LB to the C two times, don't miss
Cuz if you do, you break you get broke
Me and Mista G and the Indo Smoke
[Hook: Nate Dogg (x2)]
(Are you high yet?)
Whatever you do muthafucka you betta not choke
This ain't no stress, it's the muthafuckin' indo smoke
[Verse 3: Mista Grimm]
Fee, fi, foe, really doe
I'm still smokin' and sippin', talkin' like a pimp
Freakin', seekin' new lands without transport
Cuz indo smoke is a man's sport
I never feel stressed and that's the realist
Just a proper herb for my chronic illness
Please, let me go on with my day
Relax with phat tracks and a real fat J
Ooh, I think I'm in love
Astounded from what it did, sended me far above
On a fly toke, I can brag for days
You can't swim with Grimm
Because my tidal wave's - high
And that's no joke
Because Mista Grimm takes flight from the Indo Smoke
[Hook (x2)]
[Verse 4: Mista Grimm]
Ignition to remission, blast off through the cos
Most of the voyage I enjoy is just a cause
I sonic boom when I return back to earth
Birth of a new rhyme will take no time
I'm prepared, papers and a lighter to provoke
A comical scene to watch Mista Grimm choke
Then gain composure, compose a symphony
From C-H-R-O-N-I-C and Mista G mixed together nicely
Combinin', lick the linings, voilà!
A fat Chronic sack you can put in your jaw
H and R puff the stuff in ya lungs
Smokin' on the Chronic, gettin' straight sprung
Stretched, taken to the extreme feelin'
Dancin' on the ceilin' like Lionel
If ya hear me on some vinyl
I break 'em till they can't be broke
As I soak, in the Indo Smoke
[Hook Outro: Nate Dogg]
[Are you high yet? (repeated in background)]
Take a trip with Nate Dogg to the Eastside
We will show you whether our gangstas love to get high
We get high on every street in Long Beach
So don't come to my hood thinkin' that you can save me
Niggas from funny land wanna come to the East and reveal
I gotta viscious left hook and you're damn right I will steal
Shots go out to my nigga Mista Grimm and you know Warren G
I gotta nigga named Gangsta Rod, you know B-Tip, you know me
My name is Nate D-O double G and I'm comin' straight from the East
Don't think you don't know where I'm from, I'm from 213
[Outro: G-Child]
Yeah, you know what I'm sayin'
19 ninety muthafuckin' 3 (hey)
I got my muthafuckin niggas in the house
I got my nigga Mista Grimm in the house (uh, ah)
I got my nigga B-Tip in the house (uh, ah)
I got my nigga Nate Dogg in the house (uh, ah)
I got my nigga Ricky Rod in the house (uh, ah)
I got the nigga Butch in the house (uh, ah)
I got my nigga Greg in the house (uh, ah)
He's engineering this, check it out
You know what I'm sayin'
Long Beach in the house
We hooked up with some people from West Covina
My nigga Mista Grimm, but you know
Ain't nothing but a G Thang, uh
G Thang, but you don't hear me though, hahaha yeah
Are you high yet? (laugh) (x2)
Are ya high big baby?
Are ya high? (laugh) (x2)
Nigga I asked you is you high (I'm fucked up)
I ain't be gotten no women, nigga is you high, shit (I'm fucked up)
Oh we can do this then
Hey, let's go
Its over big baby, hey
This song was released in 1993 and was one of the tracks on the soundtrack of Poetic Justice.


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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Snowlilly, Aug 21, 2012.
started reading Time Enough For Love by Robert Heinlein.
I have finished reading Devils of Amber Street and I will briefly comment on all four stories.
1) Devils of Amber Street - I though this would be a simple possessed house story, a subgenre I don't normally like, so I was pleased that it went in another direction.
2) The Bonaventure Jane - I like this story the most. One of my favouite genres - historical mystery. I would love to read further George Tellant stories.
3) Megg - I quite enjoyed this brief story.
4) The Wolf -Prologue for a future novel. Interested me enough to want to read the novel when it is released.
I am currently reading Twice in a Lifetime - a collection of Icelandic short stories by Ágúst Borgþór Sverrisson.
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. Especially glad you liked The Bonaventure Jane, it's the oldest of the stories in the book and I've always had a soft spot for it
Finished Don Quixote, I preferred the second part to the first part. Now I'm reading Call of the Wild by Jack London, and I'll probably finish that today.
If you like it, you should read the others. I love the Agent Pendergast series, although the last 2 were probably my least favorite.
Currently reading "Guilt" by Jonathan Kellerman. Part of the Alex Delaware series.
I like the Kellerman/Delaware series, though haven't read one for a year or so now, trouble is I can never remember which ones I've read and which I haven't!
Milo's a great supporting character!
I used to have that problem. Until I got my Kindle
currently reading: Carry on, Jeeves
Not on a Kindle but on my trusty old Sony reader, though
I've watched the TV series a few months ago and now when I read the book, I keep seeing the characters. Highly distracting!
(Btw, I can wholeheartedly recommend the DVDs - absolutely hilarious and the cast - down to the smallest character - is simply perfect!)
Moon and Sixpence by William Somerset Maughm
All the Laws but One By the late Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist. It's about the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus in times of war (by the United States).
I LOVE Of Human Bondage. Not a fan of "The Razor's Edge." Maugham is a master of prose.
Yeah he is, when I got my Kindle Fire for Christmas I was looking at free classics and I just randomly downloaded 'The Hero'. From then on he quickly rose to be one of my favourite writers. So far I've only read The Hero and The Magician, but I'll probably read Of Human Bondage after Moon and Sixpence.
Star Trek Cold Equations Pt. 1: The Persistence of Memory. So far, it's made me cry twice. All the references to Data upsets me. *wails* Data's not dead!!!!!! *sobs in corner*
Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear.
I have just finished reading I Remember You by Sigurdarsdottir. It is a ghost story/mystery about 2 boys who go missing more than 50 years apart in Iceland. Are their disappearances connected?
My next read will be Remembering Babylon by David Malouf which is a novel about an English cabin boy who is marooned on the coast of Australian during the 19th century and is taken in by Aboriginals.
So how was it? Any good? Sounds kinda up my alley
I liked it. However, generally speaking, I like the vast majority of books that are set in Iceland as I am an Icelandophile.
It is quite typical for both a Icelandic ghost story and an Icelandic mystery. There are two stories being told at once, the story about a psychiatrist and the other about some people renovating a house in an remote village and the two stories have alternating chapters.
The book is set in the region around Ísafjörður (NW Iceland) which is a nice change from books set in Reykjavik. However Yrsa does tend to set her books all over Iceland (and one was set in Greenland).
I would rate is 4/5.
Essential Daredevil vol. 1
Yesterday, I read over 200 papers about how the Lionfish could or could not fit into commercial fishing.
My brain is still trying to recover.
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Sharing Analytics Improves Outcomes, Revenue
This article appears in the September 2012 issue of HealthLeaders magazine.
In 1999, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates popularized the term "digital nervous system," which describes how technology could be used to let enterprises make better decisions faster, mimicking the autonomic nervous system of living organisms.
Today, leading healthcare organizations increasingly rely on their own digital nervous systems—improving the quality of care, sustaining operations, and ensuring profitability. With unprecedented transparency, the metrics of running a healthcare enterprise trigger rapid responses to all sorts of changing conditions.
Take, for instance, the Cleveland Clinic, a multispecialty academic medical center that handles 4.6 million patient visits a year. CFO Steven Glass knows that his organization requires constant awareness of key business indicators in order to stay on top of its game.
"I'm on the dashboards probably 320 days out of 365 days a year, and it's really a key way for me to pulse how the organization is actually performing," Glass says. "That includes volumes, occupancies, patient satisfaction, quality metrics, utilization, cost, all kinds of different classifications."
When Cleveland Clinic deployed its first dashboards eight years ago, they were "relatively basic, showing overall volume information in the organization," he says. "It's evolved drastically, to where now on our dashboards, we have information that's updated as frequently as every 30 minutes."
Why so often? "On a particular day we can be running at 95% occupancy, so we really need to understand that the house is full," Glass says. "It's critically important for executives across the organization. It is a way that, as the CFO, I know are we having a good month or a bad month.
"Long before you see revenue numbers and expense numbers, if you really know your business and you track it pretty closely, you can see where you've got trends in different parts of your organization," he says.
Glass says midway through the month, if he sees light volume in a unit, he will pick up the telephone to make sure expenses are being appropriately managed.
But the real key to today's business intelligence at an institution such as Cleveland Clinic is distributing the information gathered by the digital nervous system not just to top leadership, but to all those in the organization with a need to know.


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|September 20, 1999, 09:29 PM
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Join Date: May 2, 1999
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 3,611
Hi all,
I've noticed a fairly common concern with recoil on some of the rifle threads (here and there).
The biggest impediment to getting a hard hitting rifle seems to be the hard hitting on the butt end. Just thought I would talk a bit about things I have seen and done to cut the learning curve down a bit.
The first thing I see folks do is to get all set at a bench wearing a T-shirt and touch one off. I would recommend that the first few shots come from the standing position - after all, you need a couple of fouling shots to start breaking the bore in right? Take these first few shots standing - much eaiser on the shoulder.
The actual zeroing of the rifle is best done in the clothes you'll wear while hunting. I usually have a thick fleece jacket on in the stand. The thickness can be a problem with eye relief, so it makes sense (to me) to wear it or a reasonable substitue while getting the scope, ammo and rifle in sync. Here in SC, wearing a jacket in the summer can lead to heat stroke, so I usually use a towel between my shoulder and the rifle. (also helps to wipe the sweat out of your eyes)
The other tactic is to either get a recoil pad on your stock or invest in a stock with one on. I have HS Precision on my deer rifle and I've a Bell and Carlson on my .375. The B&C has the biggest "footprint" of any after market synthetic stock out there (I think). Really cuts down on the reverse punch. MPI is offering a synthetic version of Art Alphins "Rekoil-Chek" stock and it looks like a winner.
The reloading technique of starting with a light load is very useful, but only to those that reload.
I also find that a scope with improper eye relief can accentuate kick. I like the longest eye relief possible. The rear eye peice of the scope should be over the cocking indicator of the rifle. Any furthur back seems to lead to trouble.
Anyone who has any other tips - please share!
"Hear the voices in my head, swear to God it sounds like
they're snoring." -Harvey Danger, "Flagpole Sitta"
|September 21, 1999, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: May 31, 1999
Location: N. Texas
Posts: 5,896
You're exactly right on the scope placement! In fact, I now have the rule of thumb that you should have to almost squirm your head out like a turtle to get the full view in the scope. Reason is, when you're down in a solid rest, you've got the time, and when you're standing and shooting offhand, your face tends to ride a bit closer to the scope, anyway. I, for one, seem to have a natural scope-creep, anyhow, and I like to set the rear of the scope such that I pretty much can't creep up and smack myself. This creates confidence, so that I can concentrate on other things, like the shot.
Other suggestions:
For summer use, the Past (tm) recoil shield is awesome. Wearable by shooter.
Ideally, I like to shoot some in a like-firearm of a lesser caliber first. .22 or .257 Rbts before '06, .308 before .300 Win Mag, etc. The results improve remarkably. But for REAL improvement with this technique, try it with .22/.38/.44 mag! Just about as good is to shoot some Specials in your Mag, first.
Although there's still blast, the lighter pills will have less recoil in a given caliber, for practice purposes. One can certainly get the feel of his '06 with 130gr. loads at 3300, and then settle down to real work with his '06 in 150's, 165's or 180's.
To well-alleviate the blast, wear good facial protection, and good ear protection.
Shoot at reactive targets, or at least ones that are fun. This alleviates the strain and tension of simple target punching.
Shoot more. No, a little more than that.
Remember: it makes big noise, it moves around a bit, but it can't hurt you.
Have fun.
Will you, too, be one who stands in the gap?
|September 21, 1999, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: July 28, 1999
Location: Denver
Posts: 2,454
Once you are zeroed at the range with your past recoil shield etc... go into the field and shoot your rifle some. You will find that when you draw down on a deer and touch it off you will hear the shot... see the aninmal drop etc.BUt you WON'T feel the gun kick.. at all.
|September 21, 1999, 05:40 PM
Join Date: June 7, 1999
Location: Soperton, GA
Posts: 76
But what about "men" like me that just love recoil? I mean, after touching off a hot loaded .338, I like to stand up, rub my shoulder, do a "tool man" grunt--then go back for round 2!
In all seriousness. I'm a big guy, so recoil doesn't bother me that much, but it does bother me. After praticing with the 7mm Rem. Mag. my shoulder is begging for mercy and so am I, after about 20 rounds. I think once a person feels his/her shoulder getting tender, it's time to stop for the day.
If every shot is going to send a streak of pain across the chest, it's end result will be a flinch--which affects accuracy, which affects confidence, which affects pleasure in shooting, and so on. It's the snowball effect...
You guys have made some good points. About the only other thing I can add is; don't be in a hurry to shoot. Take your time, breathe right, squeeze the trigger, then take a break.
In my opinion it's best to take 10 good shots an hour, than 20 bad ones.
"but if you're bored then you're boring"...Harvey Danger
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The daughter of Floyd Addison and Idell Mosley Hollingsworth, Maudean was born on March 28, 1925 in Burns, Miss. As a teen, she moved to Mobile, Ala., where she worked repairing parachutes for the war effort. In June of 1945 she returned to her Mississippi home where she enlisted in the Navy. After attending Hunter College in nursing, she achieved the rank of seaman second class. She was a member of the WWII era group known as WAVES (Women Accepted for Volunteer Emergency Service). During this time, she traveled to New York City for some R&R. There she met her future husband, Al, who was also there on leave from New London Naval Base in Groton, Conn., where his submarine was being refitted.
She and Al traveled extensively, working in commercial fishing in Florida, cotton farming in Mississippi, and traveling around the world in the course of her husband's military career, which spanned WWII, the Korean Conflict, and Vietnam. She was active in various service groups including NCO Wives and Girl Scouts. After Al retired, they moved back to Mississippi to be close to family.
Mrs. Kearney was a lifelong member of Bethel Baptist Church in Burns, Miss. She worked as loan operations administrator with the Farmers Home Administration in Raleigh, Miss. She was a member of American Legion Post 22 in Burns and was the Southern Area vice commander for the state of Mississippi. She was also a Worthy Patron of the Order of the Eastern Star.
In 2011 Maudean was honored by the Salute to Freedom Committee for being the oldest living female veteran of World War II in Pope County.
She was preceded in death by her husband, Allan Perry Kearney; parents, Floyd Addison and Idell Hollingsworth; four sisters, Bessie Russum, Tressie Willoughby, Christine Craft and Elna Ruth Puckett; and four brothers, Wilson, Willis, DeWitt and Odell Hollingsworth.
She is survived by her sisters, Fannie Mae Keys of Brandon, Miss., Maxie Shavers and husband Roy of Fort Payne, Ala.; a son, Perry Kearney and his wife, Kathy; a daughter, Denise Kearney Harvell; her husband, Robert; and a granddaughter, Kristen Kearney and her fiancé Aaron Scruggs, all of Russellville. In addition, she leaves behind her caregiver, Paula Lowrey.
Visitation will be conducted from 2-4 p.m. today at Humphrey Funeral Service. Maudean will be laid to rest with her husband Al at the Arkansas State Veterans cemetery at North Little Rock in a private military ceremony on Tuesday, Dec. 18, 2012.


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Andy Rooney Is Finally Done Talking
Momentously eyebrowed useless old crank Andy Rooney has finally said enough. Just a day after CBS announced that the befuddled nonagenarian would return to his slot on 60 Minutes next week, they're announcing that next week will be Rooney's last appearance on the show. He's been there since 1978. About fucking time.
Brian Moylan for Andy Rooney's replacement? Sure, whatever. Nowhere to go but up.


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Fa Dao wrote:Namdrol,
for those of us not as well versed in Dzogchen would you mind explaining some of the terminology? for example:
"tridlung of Short Thun practice" and
"Ati Guru Yoga" how is this different from regular Guru Yoga?
Trilung = khrid lung i.e. an oral transmission of a basic short practice which includes refuge, guru yoga, deity yoga practice, dedication, etc.
Ati guru yoga means a kind of Guru yoga done in the most essential way. It differs from regular guru yoga in that it is the most essential possible guru yoga apart from being in the state of the realization of the guru.


text: "Lawrence of Arabia is said to have reinvented warfare, and Scott Anderson has now reinvented Lawrence. By placing him alongside the other adventurers and spies who roamed the Arabian war theater, Anderson brilliantly illuminates how the modern Middle East came to be. The research in this book is so daringly original, and the writing so spectacular, that it feels like I'm reading about the topic for the first time."Sebastian Junger


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Facebook photo from Arlington sparks Internet outrage
By JASON COOK | Cape Cod Times, Hyannis, Mass. | Published: November 21, 2012
HYANNIS, Mass. — A woman who sparked an Internet furor after posting a photo of herself making an obscene gesture at the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia has been placed on unpaid leave from her job with a Hyannis program for the disabled.
Lindsey Stone, 30, of Plymouth and her co-worker Jamie Schuh of Mashpee — who took the photo — are on leave while their employer, LIFE — which stands for Living Independently Forever — investigates the incident, according to a statement by Executive Director Diane Enochs.
Stone is listed as a case/money manager at the LIFE home in Hyannis, and Schuh is listed as a supported independent living director. The nonprofit organization operates condominium communities in Hyannis and Mashpee for adults with learning and intellectual disabilities.
The photo depicts Stone crouching in front of a sign that reads "Arlington National Cemetery: Silence and Respect," pantomiming a shout and holding up the middle finger of her right hand.
The two were on a company-sponsored trip to the military cemetery near Washington, D.C., when the photo was taken, according to LIFE's chief financial officer James Godsill. Forty program residents and eight staff members took part in the October trip, according to a statement on the LIFE Facebook page.
Stone posted the photo on her personal Facebook page as a joke, but she was quickly rebuked by people who saw it, according to Gawker.com. The photo and comments have been removed from Stone's page, but Gawker published a screen shot of Stone's Facebook response to the negative comments.
"Whoa whoa whoa ... wait," Stone wrote on Oct. 20, according to the screen shot on Gawker. "This is just us, being the douchebags that we are, challenging authority in general. Much like the pic posted the night before, of me smoking right next to a no smoking sign. OBVIOUSLY we meant NO disrespect to people that serve or have served our country."
An attempt to reach Stone for comment by phone Tuesday afternoon was unsuccessful.
Stone and Schuh released a statement Tuesday night apologizing for the photo.
"We sincerely apologize for all the pain we have caused by posting the picture we took in Washington D.C. on Facebook. We never meant any disrespect ... It was meant merely as a visual pun, intending to depict the exact opposite of what the sign said," the statement reads.
"We would also like to apologize to LIFE Inc. We regret having caused any suffering to the staff members, residents, families, and friends. We realize that it was an ignorant and distasteful thing for us to do, but we truly meant no harm. We are deeply sorry."
Godsill would not comment on Stone's contention that the photo was meant as a joke, but he did say it was not appropriate.
"We are appalled at what they represented, what they desecrated," he said of the photo. "We are absolutely outraged. It does not reflect the values of LIFE."
The organization's statement on its Facebook page, posted Tuesday afternoon, had drawn almost 3,000 comments by evening, almost all harshly criticizing Stone or the LIFE organization.
"This photograph in no way reflects the opinions or values of the LIFE organization, which holds our nation's veterans in the highest regard," the LIFE Facebook statement said. "We are proud to have veterans serving on our staff and board of trustees, and we value their service. The men and women who have selflessly fought and sacrificed their lives to protect the rights and lives of Americans deserve our utmost respect and gratitude. We are acutely aware that this photo has done a disservice to veterans and we are deeply saddened that it was taken and shared in a public medium."
After Stone's photo went viral it attracted national attention, spurring someone to create a Facebook group titled "Fire Lindsey Stone," which had garnered more than 10,000 "Likes" by Tuesday evening.
The Facebook page for Stolen Valor, an online community that tracks military impostors, drew some especially heated comments, including obscenities and prompting the site's manager to ask that users refrain from issuing threats and to stop posting negative comments on the LIFE page.
Godsill said the company is devastated by the negative publicity the photo of Stone has brought to the LIFE company.
"We do good work. It's appalling someone would do something so irresponsible," he said.


text: Evening, morning, whatever all!!!! I've searched the web looking for pics of BMW cafe racer conversions - found quite a few - wondering if anybody here online has some or links to others? I want to start a project bike to go alongside Heinrich (my 05 R1200GS) whilst I go to college part time for the next few years - an incentive to study I guess you could say!!! Failing that, I'll strip the damaged K1100RS I bought two weeks ago and make her into a roadster....... Cheers!


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Mistresses, married women and early-morning workouts
"It's not boot camp they're going to," she said. "It's 'Booty Camp'."
And with that, my ears were opened to a new trend in the world of morning sexercise – a new, sinister trend. A trend that sends married men walking out to their workout, and into the waiting arms of a very personal trainer. The kind of trainer who, as my hairdresser might quip, puts the 'ass' in 'class' – the booty in the camp, so to speak.
Was she serious? Is this really the new thing?
"So many married men – so many wealthy, married men – have mistresses these days. I know this for a fact. I know, because I do their wives' hair, I do their hair – I probably even do the mistresses' hair. In any case, I know these affairs are happening – Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne - it's always been the way.
I told her I knew too. I knew through the comments and the emails and the conversations I've had through the seven years I've been professionally interested in sex. Affairs happen. They happen more than people know, or care to admit.
"Especially in Europe," continues my Australia ex-Continent hairdresser. "In Europe, it has always been, and is today, the case where men – especially the rich ones – have mistresses. You have your funeral, you have your side for the family, and your side for the other woman and her family.
"It's the same in Australia, though it's not so public. They hide it here. They hide it, in broad daylight. These affairs are happening, and they're happening at the gym, at boot camp – they're not happening at night."
In so many ways, what she says is true. I have known of workplace affairs that take place literally at the workplace. I have known of people whose nocturnal meanderings have everything to do with married life, and nothing to do with their secret, extra-marital lovers.
Indeed, popular culture is full of daytime adultery. The 'Honey, I'm home, just in time for dinner, and kids-to-bed send-off' brigade that are always a little late returning to home and hearth, largely because their boardroom meeting was in fact lunchtime hotel sheet-creeping.
I just didn't think noontime rendezvousing had tumbled into an earlier bed.
"Oh but it has!" I'm thinking of the vast, growing number of people I know bouncing out of bed for their early morning routines. Or root-ines, I should say, probably with a sly wink, to emphasise the naughty nature of this sans-spouse 'sesh-ing' - this horizontal cardio with a treacherous twist. I think about the boom in boot camp culture and wonder, is it really 'booty camp' for the wedded set?
"It is," she says, emphatically, scissors in hand. "And I tell you - wives are worried about husbands going out at night, but the reality is, they're doing not doing it at night, they're doing it in the morning."
It makes sense, I say. You'd have the perfect cover. Forget faking work conferences for the sake of seeing your secret lover - few people are available to conscious thought in the small hours after dawn, before civilised rising hour chimes, let alone cognisant of any small detail that may suggest someone's doing something – or someone – they shouldn't be.
"Exactly," she concludes, drawing near her final chop. "Morning glory with the mistress is the new heart-starter for married men."
"It's a man's world," her colleague chimes in.
Except, I've since discovered, it isn't.
Armed with my new do, and new curiosity, I've spoke with some of my personal trainer friends. Male trainers, I might add. Though my hairdresser was talking about husbands using the pretence of pre-work workouts to do a woman who isn't their wife, and not necessarily their gym instructor, said bloke boot campers attest female pupils are often inclined towards extra, one-on-one attention.
"I've slept with my students, yeah," one said, candidly. "I'm not the first, I won't be the last. And I didn't care if they were married or not. Often, they were."
Which brings me to my concluding point. You want to cheat on your partner? You have a problem. You might be clever in concealing it, but it doesn't change the fact said cheating is wrong.
Sure, if we're talking about endorsed affairs – extra-marital love-making sealed with spousal blessing – then perhaps we're having a different conversation. Perhaps that relationship isn't so broken. Perhaps.
But anyone cheating on their partner – lying to their partner - no matter the time of day is doing the wrong thing. I don't care if it is the new trend that makes you more 'available' to your family. It is still wrong.
Have you had an affair? How did you conduct it? Do you think more people are making a morning out of it? And does it work, or is it symptomatic of a broken relationship?
Katherine Feeney is a journalist with the Nine Network Australia. She is also one of Australia's leading commentators on sex, love, dating and relationships via her popular blog CityKat.
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Guess whos Bizzack with your game thread for the Knicks and 76ers game?
Im MSGKnickz33 and Im gonna break down tomorrow nights game. Stephon Marbury is now expected to play Friday night despite the fact that the funeral for his father was yesterday. Eddy Curry is expected to play after spraining his ankle while running in practice on Wednesday.
Philadelphia is considered by many to be the worst team in the Eastern Conference. They play good defense however and they are a tougher team than what their record indicates.
Philadelphia 76ers Starting Lineup:
At Point guard, Andre Miller
At shooting guard, Willie Green
At small forward, Andre Iguodala
At power forward, Reggie Evans
At center, Samuel Dalembert
Now lets take a look at the starting lineups for our New York Knicks!!!!!
At point guard, Stephon Marbury
At shooting guard, Fred Jones
At small forward, Quentin Richardson
At power forward, Zach Randolph
And at center, Eddy Curry
Lets take a look at what the Knicks need to do to get the win and improve to a 7 and 11 record.
What does each player need to do?
- Philadelphia is not a good offensive team only averaging 91.5 points. Dont let them become a good offensive team.
- The 76ers are the 8th best team in the league defensively so move the ball around, look for good shots, and take care of the ball.
- Be Aware!!!! Samuel Dalembert is averaging over 2 blocks a game. The Knicks should not force the ball into Curry as much as they normally do because he will have an excellent defender on him. Look for other options.
- Look to double AI: Iguodala has proven that he can score and Q-Rich might have problems with him. The team needs to recognize this and look to help Richardson.
Stephon Marbury needs to bring his tough defense and look to score when the Knicks need offense.
Jamal Crawford needs to watch Willie Green on the perimeter. Green is not a big name starting shooting guard, but he did have 23 points in a recent game although hes only averaging about 12 points a game so far this season.
Quentin Richardson needs to continue to play with alot of heart and emotion. This team needs his leadership. With the minutes Isiah is giving him, Q needs to start shooting better. Iguodala might get switched at some point in the game and have to guard Crawford so Q should look to attack whoever they put on him, possibly Korver. He needs to break out of this slump.
Zach Randolph needs to keep his body on Reggie Evans. Evans is a monster on the boards. He does not have much of an offensive game but hes a physical defender. Zach cannot match Evans physically, so he needs to look to shoot. Also, when Zach is being double or triple teamed he needs to give the ball up immediately. He shot well last night (10-15), but he took a bad shot at the end of the game that could have easily been avoided.
Eddy Curry needs to focus on defense and make sure this 76ers team does not score more points then they should. Samuel Dalembert is a good defender, so Curry should not look to score as much similar to the New Jersey game had he played. Its another good oppertunity for Eddy to work on his defense.
The biggest factor coming off the bench for the Knicks will be Renaldo Balkmen. The 76ers will bring Kyle Korver off the bench who is a pure shooter. Balkmens job will be to bring his normal energy and contain Korver. Louis Williams is a tough young guard who will also be coming off the bench for Philadelphia. He can score as seen with his 18 points off the bench against the Celtics on Wednesday night. Because he is 6'2", maybe Nate Robinson will get some playing time when Williams is on the court.
The Knicks will play the 76ers again at home Saturday night. This will be a good chance for them to obtain a 8 and 11 record which is just 3 games under 500. They need to take advantage of an opponent with less talent by jumping on them early and not giving them a chance. As a team, the Knicks should be embarassed by their record. Although alot of pieces dont fit together, they should still be a 500 team heading towards a playoff birth.
Tune in at 7:00 tomorrow night on MSG to watch the Knicks take on the 76ers in Philadelphia. I'm MsgKNicks33 and I thank you for joining me.
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This thread is getting the official Rabbit Hole Trophy.
This thread is getting the official Rabbit Hole Trophy.
i am nearly convinced this has been either steel or raisor messing with our heads.
"There was like a softness to it, a glow to it. I felt... I felt warm."
-- Joseph Daniel Votto 7/10/2017
If nothing else I'm glad I waded through this whole thread for that stat, since I didn't know if or where "Productive Outs" we tracked by anyone. I would've guessed the gap between the two would've been greater, that does a lot to remove the advantage a runner-moving GO would have over a K.Originally Posted by SteelSD
Sadly, I can all but assure you that this is not the case. BF, DH, PRose14...whatever name you choose...has been carrying on this argument for more than one baseball season.Originally Posted by TRF
He was flying high off of Dunn's 2003.
He wrote off Dunn's early 2004 season success with predictions of complete second half collapse.
He finally relented that Dunn's 2004 was an abberation, and as good as it will ever get.
His best prediction was that Dunn will get bored playing baseball and retire before his 30th birthday. He also mentioned non-tendering the Donkey after this year.
Just some of the gems from the "Adam Dunn Strikeout Thread" on the mlb.boards.
TRF, I have no problem with OBP or SLG. I like them both. My "problem" is if when they come together and make OPS - the OPS stat is then treated as the end all be all stat. I prefer my apples (OBP) and oranges (SLG) separately.Originally Posted by TRF
I want to give more weight to SLG for an "rbi type" guy and more weight to OBP for the non "rbi types" who I will count on for bat control, speed etc. and hopefully to score my runs.
I like Juan Pierre but I'd like him even more if he'd take a few more walks. He'll make you pay on the bases. I don't care that his SLG is not that high.
I also don't get too excited about a guy batting 5,6 or 7 who is overly content with taking BBs. I don't want the onus shifted to 7,8,9 hitters who ARE more likely to make outs and kill rallies.
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I think my K vs. other out position is already clear and reasonable. For now, I much prefer my conceptual/logic-based argument which concludes Ks are worse to the "real world" stat-based arguments I have seen which conclude they are just outs. Those arguments/studies have far too many fluctuating variables to expect any clear correlations.
So you're saying that because the graph notes no correlation between Strikeouts and Runs scored, it's because other variables actually drive Run Scoring from an offensive perspective?As for the K vs. other outs, I'm sticking to my position for now. I will be checking out that study in greater detail but my first impression is the plot graph thing is a "bad study" - far too many variables.
Well, darn. You're right. Strikeouts don't drive offensive Run Scoring. Non-Out events do.
What that author is telling you is that from an offensive perspective, K's do not matter. From a pitching perspective K's do matter because high K-rate pitchers tend to allow fewer non-Out events and thus are impacted less by them.
That's not at all counter-intuitive. Make few Outs and acquire many Bases and you're a good hitter regardless of how many times you Strike Out. Aquire many Outs and allow few Bases and you're a good pitcher regardless of how many Hitters you Strike Out.
It just so happens that Strikeouts are NOT indicative of negative Hitter performance. We can see that in the real-world examples of high-K hitters and teams who do a very good job of avoiding Outs and acquiring Bases.
If your contention was correct (ie. that Strikeouts are a negative offensive performance driver) we'd see very convincing evidence in that graph (ie. the RS plotting would very closely follow the line that charts K rate). But we don't. In fact, some of the top offensive MLB seasons are those in which the highest K rates occur.
But Strikeouts ARE indicative of positive Pitcher performance- but not because of the effect of Strikeouts on performance, but because high K pitchers tend to do a better job of acquiring Outs and preventing Bases.
That's not at all counter-intuitive, nor does Wilkins' study contradict itself in any way, shape or form. In fact, Wilkins' has used proper scientific method, has included over 50 years of real life performance data. He hasn't made up any wild scenarios or attempted to position a conclusion as his hypothesis.
But because his finding's don't match your belief system, it's a "bad study".
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch thats over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.
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That about sums it all up...Originally Posted by SteelSD
You should care. Because if Juan Pierre's SLG was better, he wouldn't need to risk Outs to advance himself into scoring position and he'd be far more valuable to his team.I like Juan Pierre but I'd like him even more if he'd take a few more walks. He'll make you pay on the bases. I don't care that his SLG is not that high.
The best leadoff hitter of our era was Rickey Henderson. But not because of BA . And not because of Strikeouts. But because Rickey Henderson combined his "apples to oranges" better than just about anyone AND threw in a whole ton of cherries (see: speed) to complete the package.
The point of baseball from an offensive perspective is not "Few Outs or Many Bases". It is "Few Outs and Many Bases".
They are the two great tastes that go great together.
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch thats over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.
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nj, don't come in here and start taking cheap shots and drag down what has been "civil" debate.... :allovrjr: :thumbdownOriginally Posted by NJReds
You get "lifeless blob" results in a study for at least two reasons:
1) there truly is no correlation or
2) as in this case, there may or may not be a stronger correlation but the study itself has too many fluctuating variables to produce more telling results.
The study I suggested which would have number of hits, BBs and as many other variables as possible all equal (re: scientific method "all other things held equal") would be a far better study for measuring impact of strikeouts on runs scored.
BF, you have had six pages of posts showing you are wrong.
and you haven't budged an inch.
I admire the tenacity, however wrong your conclusions, and they are wrong.
Simply put, you started with a conclusion not a hypothesis.
You put out hypothetical situations, that can never happen to support your conclusion. This is now the second time i have stated this.
You have yet to refute a single point any of us have made, and you have contradicted yourself on numerous occasions.
The worst part is, I don't think you really learned anything over the last two days.
Now for my last question, who had the better year?
According to everything you have posted, you would select the first player. High BA, Low strikeouts.Code:G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG TB SH SF IBB HBP GD 162 678 100 221 22 12 3 49 45 24 45 35 .326 .374 .407 276 15 2 1 8 9 161 568 105 151 34 0 46 102 6 1 108 195 .266 .388 .569 323 0 0 11 5 8
And you would be wrong.
"There was like a softness to it, a glow to it. I felt... I felt warm."
-- Joseph Daniel Votto 7/10/2017
No cheap shots BF, DH, PRose14...just the truth.Originally Posted by BadFundamentals
You and I have been through all this stuff before, you're right, I shouldn't say anything here, I've had my piece.
I'll keep the rest of my comments to your new thread on MLB. oke:
Originally Posted by BadFundamentals2004 MLB OBP = .330Code:out 1 67.00 100 out 2 45.00 100 out 3 100.00 100 212.00 300 70.7%
1st out occurs 67% of the time with no chance to move runner.
2nd out therefore occurs 45% of the time with noone even on base.
3rd out fails to advance a runner 100% of the time.
Therefore at the absolute minimum, 71% of the time a player has no opportunity to advance a runner with an out. Given that walks and singles are much more likely than 2bs or 3bs, the opportunity to advance a runner happens in a very small percentage of ABs. Double plays happen often enough to effectively cancel out those relatively few times a runner is moved up.
On top of that, moving runners up doesn't actually mean they have scored. Given the few times that moving a runner up INCREASES actual scoring, in the macro view of things a K = any other out.
Originally Posted by TRF
I'll expect my check in the mail anyday now.
"But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."
I follow your argument (at least initially):
Your arguing to start an inning that 67% of the time you'll have one out right out of the box. Leaves you only one more out before there is no such thing as a "productive out". True.
Of course the flip of that is 33% of the time or (9 innings X 162 games X .333) = 481 (call it ~450 factoring out a number for leadoff homers) or 450 times during the course of the year a leadoff batter gets on base to start inning. And since (use the Reds for simplicity) the Reds were only victims of ~125 double plays last year, once that leadoff batter is on your likely to follow that up with many more productive out opportunities.
Additionally, (of course overlap here with above but another way of looking at it) 313 of the Reds 1375 hits last year (23%) were either doubles or triples. By definition, if not with 2 outs, and two thirds of them wouldn't be, that's 200+ productive out opportunities created.
Your "Double plays happen often enough to effectively cancel out those relatively few times a runner is moved up. " I see as opinion - fair enough (But the Reds averaged far less than one DP a game last year)
Also, I differ with your "Given the few times that moving a runner up INCREASES actual scoring" comment. Maybe the Reds (who by my research set the #2 and #3 team strikeout marks in baseball history in 2003 and 2004) don't fancy and benefit much from moving runners up but other teams do and I can only hope that one day the Reds will too.
Originally Posted by gonelong
Swapping an out for a base may increase the potential for A Run to be scored but, over time, decreases the potential to score multiple Runs in an Inning. Very simply, trading Outs for Bases is a net Run Value loss proposition.Also, I differ with your "Given the few times that moving a runner up INCREASES actual scoring" comment.
Non-choice Productive Outs (meaning we're excluding bunts) occurred at a rate of only 2.1% of all Plate Appearances in 2004. Knowing that Base Hits PLUS Sac Flies were the result of only 24.3% of all PA in 2004, we can use that information to understand that a random ball hit into play Productive Out to move a Runner is truly beneficial AT MOST in 0.05% (yeah, half of one percent) of all MLB Plate Appearances. We also know that Productive Out behavior decreases the overall number of Runs scored by an Offense over time.
Now again, that's AT MOST 0.05% of all PA. Considering that not all Base Hits score runners advanced by a "Productive Out", you've got yourself a big bunch of nothing.
And knowing THAT, it's not at all surprising that three sabrmetric-driven teams (Toronto, Boston, Oakland) finished with three of the lowest four slots in all of MLB in "Productive Outs". They've figured it out.
The other team that finished in the bottom 4? The Cincinnati Reds, who finished 20th in MLB in Runs Scored even though they had fewer Base Hits than all but three MLB teams and led all of MLB in Strikeouts.
Seriously, if Strikeouts and swapping Outs for Runners were primary offensive drivers then why did the Reds finish 9-10 spots higher in the MLB Runs Scored standings than you'd think they would?
Because neither K's nor Productive Outs have pretty much nothing to do with Run Scoring over time.
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Discussion in 'Racing' started by STROM-CRF450X-990SMT, Jul 2, 2012.
just to poke an eye or 2 as you're w/ honda.
i'm sure we'd all love to know when finally honda updates the xr650l class bike and truly competes in the 800 adv market (a real transalp). i'm thinking that will happen after those classes have moved on to to the next standard up.
growing up honda was the leader, now all they do is follow way way behind.
maybe that's changing?
Plus input from Quinn Cody and JCR.
BTW, seems like you guys (Nomads) need a Vegas / California / Mojave Desert / Grand Canyon vacation in August.
Not Quinn, he's with the Orange team - but by all accounts not for the Dakar - !!!!????
Yes Quinn, he WAS on a Honda in Dakar and provided feedback through JCR before going Orange.
Ah ok - historical info, but does he have a Dakar ride?
I know Quinn will not get one of the four KTM factory seats, but it would be sweet to see KTM pony up a 450RR for Quinn to make a run at the 2013 Dakar.
He is the "Great Yankee Hope" for a stage win or the podium at Dakar with Jonah retired from Dakar competition.
That would be nice! Sort of chasing WPM's but they are flying red prototypes :)
thanks for the offer. Impossible this Summer but it'll happen someday.
I wonder, before all this was released to the press, that Quinn was going to be left off the Dakar team, and that was a reason for him jumping ship to KTM? Otherwise it would kind of suck to head to KTM just before Factory Honda announces a Dakar team which I'm sure he would have had a good chance of getting on.
Ooohh, good stuff. It doesn't surprise me that HRC had a nearly sorted machine ready to go. While the HRC name alone carries mass amounts for weight, having a machine to prove intent should have gone a long way to attracting such a decent team. After more than a few Yamaha Frankenbikes, it will be very interesting to see Helder unleashed with a backing and equipment of a full factory. I would expect that new bike reliability aside, KTM must feel a little threatened by Helder who obviously did a tremendous job to match the pace of both Coma and Despres on quite inferior machinery.
With Zanol going to HRC, there is at least one factory backed seat open (if they decide to support it) although IIRC, the bike was partially backed by KTM Brazil.
In my opinion it'll take Honda a few years to be able to compete with KTM. Not because of a lesser machine or because of less talented riders but rather because of politics. Politics play a big part in the Dakar
Time, money and "playing the game"....in my belief this is what it will take to have HRC on top of the podium.
Stoked to see how it unfolds
Allways a "-gate" in Dakar
Yes, but...(there's always a but), HRC coming into the 'game' is precisely the outcome the 450 rule was designed to generate, more interest (read that as prestige and money) from the big 4 for whom the 450 bikes became mainstream. Might the ASO coddle HRC much to the chagrin of loyal, but much smaller player, KTM?
We've all heard the stories of the ASO's inconsistencies in dealing with individual competitors and regarding 'team' favoritism, *cough* ktm *cough*, but could the desire to appease the global powerhouse that is Honda have the ASO running afoul of Mattighoffen, especially as the motorsport activities at that realm have short shelf lives without corresponding results.
Let's hope the ASO balances the needs of the two (as both will doubtlessly be gunning for top spots) in a way that breeds competition, grows the sport, and increases the appeal of both brands. I'd hate to see lopsided handling or perceived favoritism run one or the other out of the dunes.
Oh Doyle... you poor, poor, poor misguided bloody blue eyed idealist... :huh
Hey Baldy... where's the "Bambi caught in the headlights" emoticon...???
(Sorry folks... I just don't have the heart for it... who's gonna PM Doyle and break the news about santa claus to him... gently...?)
I'm the eternal optimist.
I think Ted pointed it out a while back, don't remember when...
It's not KTM that the ASO was coddling, it was Red Bull.
Depends on the livery that HRC show up with... Repsol perhaps?
Taking into account that Argentina recently "nationalized" the YPF refinery over there and the spanish got their knickers in a twist, Repsol could be a proud "fuck you" statement by the Iberians
I could go on with the conspiracy theories, someone tell me to shut up
Some of you guys have it backwards. Clearly ASO and Honda have been working together for a while. Just look at their logos. Notice the identical colors and how the "A" and "O" in ASO and Honda are so similar. LogoGate in the works!
Mind you - the feedback couldn't have been too great as the 2 key riders didn't get past day 2, so "get some decent stators" and "don't hit a rock when riding flat out" - fortunately Quinn was ok after his massive spill.
You need to read up on Quinn's accomplishments.
Multiple Baja 1000 wins on a Honda & 9th place finish in his first attempt at the Dakar on a Honda.
Rookie of the Year at the Dakar on a Honda.


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Chester Bennington and Mike Shinoda of rap-rock outfit Linkin Park sat down for an exclusive interview with KROQ DJ Nicole Alvarez, with Bennington sharing an eyebrow-raising story about the first time he met Gene Simmons, reality star and founding member of shock-rock legends KISS.
"So the first time I met Gene Simmons, I was like 'whoa, that's Gene Simmons. He's like right here,'" Bennington explained. "So I went over and introduced myself. He grabs me by the shoulders, and he says, 'you are a powerful and talented young man.' He's staring at me in my eyes and says, 'if we were in prison, I would make love to you.' I was like, 'oh.'"
"Shannon was in the background like, 'He would. He will make love to you,'" laughed Shinoda, in reference to Shannon Tweed, Simmons' longtime partner who finally tied the knot with the blood-spitting rocker in October of 2011.
After much touring in 2012, including the Honda Civic Tour with Incubus, Linkin Park recently announced the band will only be playing a single North American show in 2013, headlining Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas on February 16. Linkin Park fan club members can purchase presale tickets on the band's official website now, with tickets being made available to the public on December 14.
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I am in the stages of creating an operating system. To date, I've made the bootloader/sector, as well the kernel, complete with clear screen, kernel print (multiple variations), and basically cleaned up the code for awhile.
So, the question comes down to what do I really go from here. The options laid out in front of me seem almost endless, from what I have read on the Global Descriptor Tables/Interupt Descriptor Tables, to writing dynamic memory management, to paging, to block drivers.
It seems weird to think that I could just pick whatever I want to work on out of a hat, because then I would have no organization, and bugs would probably result of that.
So, to be specific, I am wondering if anyone has any experience in this matter. If so, could you give a few tips/pointers as to what might be the best thing to start w/.


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Museum exhibit to explore regional history through guns
Dec. 15, 2012 at 6:15 a.m.
From hunting and war to target shooting and John Wayne, guns are a part of Texas' heritage and culture.
Beginning Feb. 12, visitors to the Museum of the Coastal Bend at Victoria College can explore regional history through guns.
A new temporary exhibit titled "Winning the West: Firearms in the Texas Coastal Bend" uses historic guns, photographs, toys and artwork to show the links that firearms have to regional history and culture.
The phrase "firearms in Texas" calls up images of six-shooters in the Old West. While there are plenty of those in the exhibit, there's more than might be expected.
"Even though we might think of saloon shoot-outs and masked bandits in the Wild West, guns have been with us for a long time," said Eric Ray, museum curator.
Guns were a source of food for settlers making a new home in Texas. They were also instrumental in the establishment of Texas during the Texas Revolution, Ray said.
Victorians commissioned a shipment of guns to be used in the revolution, though the guns never made it to Texas.
They were lost in a shipwreck in Matagorda Bay, and pieces were recovered in 1998 by the Texas Historical Commission.
"The guns didn't make it here in time for the Revolution," Ray said. "But they're making it to Victoria after all, even if it's almost 180 years late."
Marks show that some of the guns were originally issued to the British Army, a theme that is common in the exhibit.
"Guns were used and used and used, changed from style to style as technology improved. They were not disposable," Ray said.
Winning the West doesn't stop with real guns. John Wayne's movie six-shooters and BB guns were an important part of many childhoods, and the exhibit includes the impact of guns on pop culture and toys.
"When you grow up with cowboy movies and books and plinking cans with a BB gun, it can't help but affect the way you look at the world," Ray said. "Those shared experiences are as much a part of history as anything else."


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He ran a 4.75 .Too slow for the first round.
He ran a 4.75 .Too slow for the first round.
Keenan Allen Wr
Dont think he was ever on their radar.
Isn't he hurt?
Hopkins and Allen are my preference at WR. I thought for sure Allen was going to run a faster 40 than Hopkins but he's not even close.... Here is hoping for Hopkins @ 1.17 instead of Allen. Here's some info on Hopkins 40 for comparison's sake:
Hopkins improved his 4.57 time from the combine during his pro day. Here is a snippet from DraftInsider.com:
DeAndre Hopkins/WR: Was timed as fast as the low 4.4's on a number of watches but was later given an "official" time of 4.52. Except for two drops late in the session his pass catching workout was described as "dazzling".
Wow...slow for a first rounder!!
R1- T.J. Watt, OLB; Wisconsin
R2- JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR; USC
R3- Cameron Sutton, CB; Tennessee
R3- James Conner, RB; Pittsburgh
R4- Josh Dobbs, QB; Tennessee
R5- Brian Allen, CB; Utah
R6- Colin Holba, LS; Louisville
R7- Keion Adams, OLB; Western Michigan
The time is reflective of his injury. Hopefully he falls to us in the 2nd.
Reports are that he is only around 85% coming off the knee injury.
1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska
Here we go again. Rate players high who's on-field performance is average to below average because they work out well, and rate players low because their work outs aren't great yet on-field performance was above average.
Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash


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Normally I don't get stressed by life. Today, DH is sicker than usual, so I did not bring out the vacuum cleaner as planned ... so vacuuming is going un-done. Anything later than 6 - 7:00 a.m, it's too hot, humid & unhealthy now for me to go pull weeds (there's 7 bazillion just around the house, + they're growing quickly) and my yardman can't come to work because he has to stay off his sprained ankle for 6 weeks, so yardwork going un-done. Today I'm running up and down stairs, alternating (when I get there) between some hand quilting and some fmq practice. Bottom line is, this is one of those days that I feel like I'm running in place and getting nowhere fast. I also have a quilt upstairs that I need to be hand quilting on, but I can only manage to look at it (I think it's looking back). I think I'm also receiving messages from my treadmill that it's time for "walkies".
Have you been there, done that? Do you have to choose between whether to do housework and/or yardwork or whether to make quilts? Please tell me I'm not the only one on this invisible treadmill. And, please remember, I've seen frightening pictures of some of your sewing rooms, so I'll know if you're lying to me!


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Tesla Model R article
Tesla Model R article
why reinvent the drive system? simply pull the front wheel drive from X, pass a bit more current to it and pair it with the existing P85 rear power train. That should do nicely.
and what is it with these guys and their paddle shifting on a single speed gearbox?
Don't know if I like the art. The drawing looks mre like a concept for a gen III coupe then a supercar.
One question someone more intellegent then me should know is what is the maximum power draw from the battery? At some point slapping another motor in there is not going to matter because the battery will be the limiting factor.
That's hideously proportioned.
Thank god it's not real.
hp*1000/754 I think is kW draw. So the S Performance is over 400 hp... that's 500, 600 kW.
EM said that there would be a new Roadster, and hints and reasonable conjecture say that it will be build on the GenIII platform.
The only question remaining is whether it will be introduced before, or after, the GenIII SUV (the GenIII sedan is first, we know that now).
Well, that, and why would the article have a 4-seater? The P85+ is a family supercar already. A real supercar is going to be a 2-door, 2-seater, as I assume the new Roadster will be.
Paddle shifters- like acetylene lanterns on early cars. Buggy whip stuff.
Only reason to add a transmission, and shifting, would be to raise top speed.


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DOD: Afghans re-screening all troops
Afghan officials are rescreening nearly every member of the approximately 352,000-strong Afghan National Security Forces in the latest attempt to end attacks by Afghan troops on their American counterparts, a top U.S. commander confirmed Wednesday,
Army Lt. Gen. James Terry, deputy commander of U.S. Forces-Afghanistan, said U.S. officials are helping Afghan leaders with the process, but is not sure how long it will be before Kabul can certify that it has reduced the risk of so-called insider attacks.
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"I'm sure it will take considerable time," Terry acknowledged in briefing reporters at the Pentagon via satellite from Afghanistan.
He described how Afghan officials are rechecking soldiers' paperwork, their drug tests, their criminal records and their original applications to join the army or police forces. Hundreds of Afghan troops have already been detained or kicked out as part of the process, an Afghan defense ministry spokesman said Wednesday.
But American officials have cautioned that, even as they try to understand and prevent what has been dubbed "green-on-blue" attacks, the problem could persist for the rest of the war.
"I can never take the risks of insider attacks down to zero," Pentagon press secretary George Little said Tuesday. "I wish I could. I can't."
So far this year, some 45 American and international troops have been killed in attacks by Afghan troops or police with whom they were serving, a phenomenon deeply corrosive to trust and morale. On Wednesday, Terry said he knew of some cases in which Afghan units apologized to their American counterparts and the two sides reconciled. But he conceded, as has every other top military leader, the attacks are deeply problematic.
Part of the frustration has been there's no single motive for Afghan troops to stage the attacks. Pentagon officials have said some are caused by insurgent infiltration. Some involve insurgents helping attackers after the fact. And others are caused by personal grudges against individual Americans.
"To say that we've found one true, discernible pattern at this time would not be accurate," Terry said.
The latest advice he has given his Afghan counterparts is to focus on soldiers who are getting ready to take leave and those who are just returning from leave. It's possible that some attackers are using their time away from service to nurse grudges and are vulnerable to being enticed by radicals or insurgents.
Terry said he follows the same guidelines when dealing with American soldiers. Among the times when some are at the greatest risk, he said, is when they go on break from service. But in the case of U.S. troops, commanders often worry about the risks of drinking and driving.
Terry's soldier-leave advice and the Afghan rescreening comes on top of American commanders' "Guardian Angel" effort, in which some U.S. troops are tasked with watching their Afghan colleagues — making sure their weapons are at the ready — just in case of an attack.
Terry declined to go into detail about how many Guardian Angels have been assigned, citing operational security, but he said the effort included every unit in the country.
The issue could get more high-level attention soon: At least one lawmaker, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) has called on the House Armed Services Committee to convene a hearing about insider attacks when Congress returns to session later this month.
Even as the Pentagon and its commanders grapple with the problem, Terry told reporters Wednesday not to lose sight of the larger picture of the war, which he said is going well. The drawdown of U.S. troops is on track, he said. Most Afghans are making "tremendous progress," and the tide has turned against insurgents and extremists.
"There is progress over here in the campaign — we have momentum," he said. "The insurgents are getting more concerned about that every day."


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Update: Expert testifies Adam Lee Hall's DNA not found on items
SPRINGFIELD -- A DNA analyst testified Wednesday that Adam Lee Hall's DNA wasn't found on most of the items tested in the case.
Jessica Hart told the jury in Hall's murder trial in Hampden Superior Court that the defendant's DNA was either not present or there wasn't enough genetic material to determine if Hall's DNA was present on all the items she tested.
Fingernail scrapings from two of three victims -- Edward Frampton and Robert Chadwell -- didn't turn up Hall or his two codefendants' DNA, Hart said.
There was no DNA from the victims in Caius Veiovis' Jeep, according to the analyst.
Massachusetts State Police Trooper Steven Jones, under questioning from Hall's attorney, Alan J. Black, said he was not aware of any DNA belonging to Glasser, Chadwell or Frampton being found in Hall's Peru residence or Veiovis' Pittsfield apartment.
Hart told the jury there were several reasons why an item that is tested may not turn up a DNA profile for a single person, including getting partial profiles for a number of people or a lack of genetic material to create a complete profile.
Additionally, she said, in some cases DNA can be degraded by water, extreme heat, bacteria and mold which would prevent testing.
She said she would expect to see DNA degradation as well as contamination in the victims' remains in this case, which were together in several bags and buried in the earth for nearly two weeks in the summer.
Jones, who is a member of the Berkshire Detective Unit, described to the jury on Wednesday what he found at two apartments in the same building on Cloverdale Street where Veiovis had lived. He said on Sept. 12, 2011, he and other investigators executed a search warrant at Veiovis' old apartment and at the apartment he had recently moved into and was living at the time of the search.
Jones said in the old apartment they found a wall covered with human anatomy illustrations that had been cut out of a book and pinned up. they also found more related material on the floor nearby, he said.
In Veovis' other apartment Jones said above the doorway leading into to the bedroom they found two hatchets with a skull and crossbones, and inside the bedroom, a machete, a Cat o' Nine Tails, a knife and two long pieces of wood studded with nails.
In the kitchen they found a cleaver and knife, he said.
Jones said they seized a Hells Angels "support" T-shirt that was found there.
The trooper said portions of copies of The Berkshire Eagle were also found in the apartment that include articles about the missing men.
According to Jones, after crime scene personnel tested the weapons for the presumptive presence of blood and came up with negative results it was decided the weapons would not be seized.
During cross-examination, Black asked Jones: "Wouldn't it be fair to say important evidence in a triple homicide would be seized?" Jones said they do collect important evidence.
Black also questioned Jones about the clothes seized from Hall and his co-defendants after their arrest.
The trooper acknowledged that if there was any evidentiary value in the clothing seized from the defendants it would have been shown to the jury.
Testimony continues Thursday.
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SF, The Future Shock Absorber
by Ernest Lilley
SFRevu Editorial ISBN/ITEM#: EL200612
Date: Dec 1, 2006 / Show Official Info /
Consider. Recent experiments in quantum teleportation needed no explanation about what the fuss was about, just an obligatory reference to Scotty at the console. Nanotech, while a bit less well known, has also been previsaged in book and media long enough so that the general public is hardly baffled when a new micromachine appears on the scene. For the most part, when science comes up with a new idea, the popular press has a vast lexicon of SF terms to explain it with...though media references are a surer bet than the more arcane lit we know and love. Stuck in its ivory tower ghetto, it's a secondary source for even the most geeky tech pundits.
Technology which genuinely hadn't been dreamed of in the 1950s didn't make it into the mass consciousness to be reframed on the big and little screens, so there are technologies that came as a surprise to folks. Chaos Theory had the science world abuzz long before Jurassic Park made it a household word, and space elevators seemed pretty novel to folks who hadn't read Clarke's Fountains of Paradise...but the basic elements were there to tap into for reference. I admit that I'm not about to go next door and ask my neighbors if they can explain geosynchronous satellites to me, but I'm pretty sure I could get the physics of the idea across thanks to some enduring images. I bet the picture of Superman crushing carbon to make a diamond back in the old black and white days would help explain the super-strong carbon cable needed to withstand the strain.
Even better though, is the level of expectation that the general public has set for it by these imaginings. One of Arthur Clarke's laws states that any time an elder scientist states that something is impossible, he's undoubtedly wrong, and we've seen stuff show up in SF that got scoffed at until it suddenly appeared in the news. True, we don't have Faster Than Light drives or personal robots, but when an AI driven VW Toureg navigated an obstacle strewn desert course to take last year's DARPA Challenge the public agreed that it was cool...but they'd always known it would happen. Having seen it all before in the movies. We'd seen it long before the films, of course, so the wait for readers of SF has been all the more painful. We're now seeing distance maintaining cruise controls on production cars, and even a few that can perform their own parking maneuvers. One wonders if the Turing test should be rephrased to query whether you can tell a car is being driven by a human or an AI? Though I'm sure that once they get the hang of it, AI's will do a far better job...as has been pointed out in numerous stories.
That's the downside to all this previewing things to come. By the time they actually get here they're already passé. It's only by mining the retro-future for its sense of wonder that publicists manage to drum up any excitement at all. Unfortunately for them, the sense of wonder died out during the SF New Wave in the 60s and 70s, to be replaced by a sense of dread, or worse boredom...so that's a vein that will only take so much mining before it plays out. We're already working the cyberpunk vein pretty hard, but I've seen the movie, and it doesn't end well.
Our problem is that we've seen too many dreams crash and burn trying to escape the forces of energy economics and cultural ADD. The challenge to our creators of tomorrow is to dream up some futures we can get excited about again, so that we can get more generations hooked on creating them. It's a job too important to let ourselves fall off into comfortable realms of fantasy, which, though they may illuminate the human condition, fail to offer paths out of civilization's dilemmas.
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