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>Running 101>Gun time vs. Chip time
<Tosses hands in the air> I always thought the winner of a race was first across the finish line. ...
Next time, get behind that guy and pace / draft off him, then outkick him to the finish. Maybe hanging behind you and drafting was *his* race strategy, and he didn't quite get the kick he needed to pass at the finish. Or maybe he didn't know you were in the same age group. Race strategy can sometimes backfire.
I understand what you're saying.
I agree that the first person across the line is the winner - and there's only one per race. My understanding is that AG stuff didn't become popular until after they there were more accurate ways of timing. Early races only recorded the winner's time because that was all that mattered, and even that was only needed for race records or whatever.
And slower people toward the back of the pack for the megathons are actually running a longer race based on gun time. I'm not sure how long some of those start packs are, but the pictures look like a really long pack. (no way would you find this small-town Alaskan in a crowd like that)
Good Grief!
Fine. Then don't give anyone a hard time for making sure they line up in the very front. Obviously your position in regards to the starting gun has a huge impact on your time.
Fine. Then don't give anyone a hard time for making sure they line up in the very front. Obviously your position in regards to the starting gun has a huge impact on your time.
In a chip timed race it has no impact on your time because chip time is valid for qualifying time purposes and tracking PBs, but it could have a big impact on your place.
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You obviously have a hard time distinguishing between finish order/awards and race time. If all you care about is time (which seems to be the case) push the start button on your watch when you cross the start/finish line and line up wherever the heck you want. Think you can cross the line first? then make it happen, line up near the front if you belong there.
I'm eying up a small race in two weeks that is split into 7.5 and 15 mile distances, most of the faster folks go for the 15, but I'm going for the 7.5. Based on the results from the past few years, it looks like I could have a chance to win/come in top 5 so yeah I will be lining up near the front. If all I cared about was TIME, I could go rail off 7.5 miles tomorrow on a nice flat rail trail and pat myself on the back.
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I agree that the first person across the line is the winner - and there's only one per race. My understanding is that AG stuff didn't become popular until after they there were more accurate ways of timing. Early races only recorded the winner's time because that was all that mattered, and even that was only needed for race records or whatever.
I double checked my race log and I have AG results as far back as 1970. Everyone's time and place were recorded. AG stuff started becoming popular when top masters athletes wanted some recognition for their effort even though they were no longer competitive with open runners. Boston finally got on the band wagon in 1977 with separate BQs for masters runners.
This thread might be my favorite rendition of this particular comet topic.
Hey, I'm doin my part.
BTW folks, Boston awards AG placings based on chip, not gun time. Someone had better ring them and straighten this out.
I always thought the winner of a race was first across the finish line.
Hey, I'm doin my part.
BTW folks, Boston awards AG placings based on chip, not gun time. Someone had better ring them and straighten this out.
That's the choice of the RD. USATF rules allow that. Most of the races I run use actual order of finish which implies using gun time..
Sorry, it was the newspapers listings, and it may have been in the 60s or earlier. Here's the excerpt from e-book "Slow Joe: Joe Henderson and his LSD" (Rich Englehart was the write/interviewer, end of section 9).
"In my early running days, the newspapers routinely listed only the first-place finisher's time. That's because everyone else usually went untimed, because winning in the old-fashioned sense only meant leading in head-to-head competition. The only reason the winner was timed was to compare that mark with the records- meet, conference, national, and so on.
"If asked to name the greatest advances in the sport since the 1960s, I'd place the digital wristwatch high on that list. It let every runner measure his or her success against an objective standard. Winning now meant beating a personal record, not a person. Only one runner could finish first, but all had at least a chance to win by their own measure."
I'm not sure when the AG stuff started (70s with the jogging revolution or was it earlier?), but as you mention, it does seem to be a way to give recognition to older runners who are no longer competitive with the open field. I recognize they do have masters' competitions at the national level, which probably reduces some of these challenges of races within races and you're not sure with whom you're competing - and reduces the probability of pacing off someone much younger (parallel to women in mixed races).
JMHO, but I think racing for place makes sense if you know who your competition is for any race strategy (as in masters' competition). But in a general megathon, I'd probably go with who finished in the fastest time (chip). Or have those that are likely to overall or AG place start in first wave - age groupers just behind the overall elites or subelites. That minimizes effect of starting place and head-to-head makes sense. I think I've seen at least one race do that, but don't remember which. (not up here, since we don't have that many people in most races)
Yes, I do recognize the value of head-to-head competition, and occasionally, there's enough people in some of my races, that there is somebody near me I can race, but usually 10-20 yr younger. (gotta go with what I got)
But I do think the person who starts 2 waves back, just because of honesty in past times, who has a stellar race (lots of training in between) should be entitled to placement based on chip time.
As I said in my first post, the problem is easy to solve by doing small races.
I appreciate all the feedback. I did not say I would move the the front of the pack. I'm not that fast....yet. I did finish 3rd in my age group (40-44) and 60th overall. I will move closer to the front as I was about tripping over people and went to the outside and sprinted by about 30 people. I am learning which is why I posted up on here. Thought I did pretty damn good for my 1st competitve race. My goal has been the Publix Half Marathon in Atlanta coming up in March. I thought this short run would give me an idea what to expect. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
OMG. I can't believe I raced for nearly 20 years without chips or Garmins. All of my results are WRONG!
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I think they should put your age on your right calf as they give you your timing chip. That way, you'll be able to see if you're competing against other runners nearby or if they're older or younger..
Oh wait, they do that in triathlon.
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Right on Hereford...
The mountain bikers have this argument about the leadville 100 mile race every year because it's a mass start and awarded by gun time but there are over a 1000 riders and the back 2/3rds get bottlenecked on the first climb and they seed newcomers near the back so it's basically impossible to show first year and place well, no matter how good a shape the rider is in.
Hmm, that seems unlikely to be true.
I am the race timer for Leadville, and I looked at the chip start times. Everyone crossed the start mat in less than 3 minutes, except for two stragglers who were late. It's six miles to the first climb, so if you start near the back and are fit enough to place in your age group, you should be passing a lot of people early. Even if you are held up a bit on that first climb, it's energy you can use later in the race.
If you look at the Age Group awards, even in the most competitive categories (Male 40-49, for example), there are many minutes between the top finishers. First place through third place spans over 17 minutes in M40-49, and 4th place was nearly 6 minutes after 3rd. It is a 100 mile race, after all.
By the way, we use chip time at Leadville to determine who gets a buckle, so there's that.
Why? So I can have one more annoying memento from the race? Or so I can know how old the 10k pack of shoulder-to-shoulder runners / walkers is when I have to weave around them.
I think they should put your age on your right calf as they give you your timing chip.
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Braconid Wasps
The adult female of the species injects its eggs into host insects, including moths, beetle larvae, and aphids. The larvae then feed inside their hosts and the host dies once the larvae have completed development. Grow nectar plants with small flowers, such as dill, parsley, wild carrot, and yarrow, to bring them to your garden.
Damsel Bugs
Damsel bugs feed on aphids, small caterpillars, leafhoppers, thrips, and other pesky pests. Collect damsel bugs from alfalfa fields using a sweep net and then release them around your site.
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Ground Beetles
The nocturnal ground beetle is a voracious predator of slugs, snails, cutworms, cabbage maggots, and other pests that live in your garden's soil—one beetle larva can eat more than 50 caterpillars. Plant perennials among garden plants for stable habitats or white clover as a groundcover in orchards.
Both adult lacewings and their larvae eat aphids, caterpillars, mealybugs, scales, thrips, and whiteflies. Angelica, coreopsis, cosmos, and sweet alyssum will bring lacewings to your garden.
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Lady Beetles
Adult lady beetles eat aphids, mites, and mealybugs, and their hungry larvae do even more damage to garden pests. Plant angelica, coreopsis, dill, fennel, and yarrow to attract them.
The quick-moving, black-and-white patterned minute pirate bugs will attack almost any insect. Goldenrods, daisies, alfalfa, and yarrow will attract these helpful bugs.
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Soldier Beetles
The soldier beetle feeds on aphids, caterpillars, as well as other insects—including harmless and beneficial species. Attract this flying insect by planting catnip, goldenrod, and hydrangea.
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Spined Soldier Bug
The spined soldier bug's pointed "shoulders" distinguish it from the peskier stink bug. Plant permanent beds of perennials to provide shelter for this predator of hairless caterpillars and beetle larvae.
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Tachinid Flies
Tachinid fly larvae burrow their way into many caterpillars, destroying these garden pests from the inside. Plant dill, parsley, sweet clover, and other herbs to attract adult flies.
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Initial City Damage Assessment and Other Important Information
Friday, September 13, 2013
September 13, 2013 - 7:30 p.m.
Colorado Springs, Colo. – Following the flooding events of Wednesday, 9/11 through Friday evening, 9/13, the City has made an initial assessment that damage has impacted the following areas:
- Gold Camp Road: extensive damage
- Cheyenne Road: extensive damage
- Gold Camp and Camp Creek: pond and sidewalk damage
- Stratton Bridge: structural damage
- Various washouts amongst City Parks, Trails, and Greenways (including roadway, walkway, and pathway damage)
- Multiple homes and residences along Cheyenne Creek
- Remaining road closures: Stratton at Cheyenne Road (due to bridge damage, this will remain closed until further notice)
It is important to note that weather patterns through the weekend may produce further flooding incidents. Therefore, damage assessments will be ongoing.
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Unfilled sandbags are available for pick up at the following locations:
- CSFD Station #5 (2830 West Colorado Avenue)
- CSFD Station #9 (622 Garden of the Gods Road)
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Sand is available for pick up at the Wilson United Methodist Church parking lot (6460 Flying W Ranch Road).
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Guy Arrested for Cracking Jokes Near Police
While it's still, obviously, legal to watch cops ticket a cyclist for riding his bike on the sidewalk, we recommend not cracking any jokes—even at the cyclist's expense—because then you might get arrested. As this gentleman learned.
The videographer writes on YouTube:
Here's the scene:
We were enjoying the nice spring weather from our balcony. A friend was visiting on his bike, and he rode up on the sidewalk from the street to our front door. In NYC this is illegal. You are supposed to stop in the street, get off the bike and walk it on the sidewalk. Although he was merely coming from the street up to our front door, those few second were illegal. NYPD rolls up and tickets him for this ($150 fine or appear in court!).
Meanwhile our neighbor walks by while this scene is unfolding. They exchange some banter. We all laughed. He keeps walking.
From there everything escalates... Seems completely unnecessary to me...
At the end of the day, he was charged with harassment, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
Welcome to an afternoon with the NYPD
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UPDATE (Wednesday, 12:15 p.m. ET): Fox Sports' Mike Garafolo is reporting that Rodgers is expected to miss 4-6 weeks. "Fourth week tricky b/c T'giving game is 3.5 wks from injury," he said.
Packers coach Mike McCarthy was noncommital on Aaron Rodgers' injury late Monday night. "They don't have an exact diagnosis," he said. "That's where we are."
His players, either by virtue of having more information or of being more open with the news, sounded the alarm more directly. WR Jordy Nelson spoke of how Rodgers' last injury, in 2010, "wasn't as long as this possibly could be." RB Eddie Lacy talked about the importance of an improved run game going forward in Rodgers' absence.
The Packers received the verdict they feared Tuesday: a fractured collarbone for Rodgers, with a reported recovery time of three weeks or more.
Had Green Bay held off Chicago, perhaps there would be less mounting panic. The 27-20 setback, however, dropped the Packers to 5-3, in a three-way tie with the Bears and Lions for first place in the NFC North. The upcoming schedule is favorable for Green Bay: home vs. Philadelphia, at the Giants and home vs. Minnesota, before a Thanksgiving Day showdown in Detroit.
BURKE: Rodgers' injury allows Bears to seal one on Monday night
With Rodgers, that may have been a 3-1 or 4-0 stretch. Now? Getting to 2-2 with Wallace or a yet-undetermined QB running the show is imperative.
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"I don't think it's realistic to put anybody in there and think they're going to pick up and run it the way he has run it," said McCarthy of his offense sans Rodgers. "But it's our job as coaches to make sure that Seneca is comfortable and put him into positions, put him into concepts that we can execute and be successful in."
Wallace made an underwhelming initial impression Monday, throwing an interception and struggling to move the offense through the air. As McCarthy pointed out, though, Wallace sees as few first-team practice reps as possibly any quarterback in the league. The Packers count on Rodgers being on the field every week; they know they are in serious trouble if he is not.
As with any situation in which a backup is forced into duty, his play should improve as he has more time to work with the starting offense. Wallace, then, should at least be closer to his comfort zone next Sunday against a beatable Philadelphia defense.
Will that be enough?
"We've got to have confidence and know we can move the ball, and do the things we need to do regardless of who's playing quarterback," Wallace said. "[My teammates] looked at me and said 'Let's go,' and I know I've got to go there and perform at a high level for them."
He was unable to do that against Chicago, and had it not been for some big runs from Eddie Lacy and James Starks, the Packers may not have even been in the mix late.
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Rodgers' injury also comes just as the Bears expect Jay Cutler to return from his own ailment, and as the Lions' schedule lightens up. Cutler is expected to suit up against Detroit in Week 10 -- that and Thanksgiving against Green Bay are the only times Detroit plays a team at .500 or better from here out.
Green Bay's hope is that Wallace can manage the game well enough to prevent a massive drop-off in Rodgers' absence. Realistically, with other players like Jermichael Finley, Randall Cobb and others still out of the lineup, simply keeping pace in the NFC North will be a tough enough task.
"I think we'll be fine," Nelson said. "We trust Seneca. He has a proven track record and he's been around the league long enough. We have all the faith in the world in him. ... It's just another opportunity for someone else in this locker room to step up."
That the Packers, battered by those injuries, were 5-2 in the first place was a testament to Rodgers' abilities. What happened in his absence Monday night may be a troubling omen of what's to come.


text: I don't think the team event in front of individual event is a huge burden for skaters. It's a burden for sure but not huge. We used to have a qualify round for the worlds for even top skaters. Though I prefer the team event after. However, team event after the individual event will be more like WTT - all for fun and fun for all.


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It wasn't just pretty — its engine-driven water pump could pressurize five fire nozzles at once, a huge upgrade from the city's old 1917 Model T fire engine, which had no pump at all, just two water tanks that were pressurized by a chemical additive. Many lost fire battles were blamed on a lack of water pressure.
For what was then a small town of around 2,000 people, the truck's $10,500 cost was a huge expense for Mountain View's residents, but considered entirely justified when a fire could do $40,000 worth of damage, like the blaze at the Foothill Cannery warehouse on Front Street did in 1928.
Thanks to the new fire engine and fire chief John H. Mockbee's training of the city's volunteer firefighters every evening to use it, the newspaper proclaimed that "buildings in our town will be safer from fire loss than anywhere in Santa Clara County" and "there is no reason why the property owners of the town should not have a very substantial reduction in insurance rates."
"All that is required now to prove to the wide world that Mountain View is prepared to put out fires on short notice, plain or fancy, is for some public spirited citizen to start a fire and let us see what we may see."
That fire came the next month when the three-story brick warehouse of the Prune and Apricot Association caught fire. The American LaFrance was dispatched and put down the flames with relative ease. The truck was the pride of Mountain View's fire department for many years — firefighter Damon Norvelle said he believes it was used well into the 1950s, retiring to a second life at a small fire department on Lake Tahoe. The city got it back in the late 1970s.
For several decades the "big American LaFrance" has sat in disrepair in a city storage yard under a tarp, largely forgotten. A fundraising effort in 1987 to restore it to its former glory had failed, Norvelle said.
There's now renewed interest in restoring the LaFrance, and public works director Mike Fuller has gotten involved. Norvelle said the desire of those involved is to hire experienced restorer Andy Swift for the job. Even American LaFrance itself has hired him to do restoration work on their own trucks. (The company ceased operations last month after building fire trucks for over a century.)
Norvelle said Swift, who has a shop in Maine, knows how to procure or reproduce its missing and worn parts and even uses the correct paint for the era — minus the lead, of course. The $170,000 estimated cost isn't cheap, but Norvelle said the department hopes to begin a fundraising effort soon so the project does not impact the city budget.
"There's not many people that want to break their knuckles and restore this stuff," Norvelle said. "I have people (in the fire department) who would be interested in the upkeep and seeing it done. The whole department would be happy then. We only have limited tools for fabrication."
He pointed out a missing piece at the rear of the body to the Voice. "That guy back in Maine knows what goes here. I'd like to see it done right," he said.
In its current state, the old fire engine appears a bit rusty, with most of its parts on hand but some removed and others stowed away to prevent theft, such as its signature bell and massive brass radiator. The 14-liter, in-line six-cylinder engine, which once made 100 horsepower, is hard to miss, as is the water pump under the driver's seat so the truck could be easily maneuvered up to a fire hydrant. Sitting amongst modern city vehicles and equipment, its swooping fenders and fine metalwork evoke a whole different era.
Norvelle says firefighters would prefer to not try to restore the fire engine themselves, as it's just too fine an antique. And restoring the city's 1917 Model T fire truck on a budget of only $700 a month has taken decades for firefighters in their spare time.
The LaFrance is the city's first effective fire engine and the sort of vehicle that wealthy collectors of the finest vintage cars have proudly shown off. And it belongs to the taxpayers of the city of Mountain View. Norvelle and other firefighters say they believe residents deserve to have it restored.
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Could I go to Italy alone??
Oh dear, I just did a very bad thing: I checked airfares to Italy and found out that I can fly over from Halifax this October for little more than $700...and yes, hard to believe but true, that even includes the return flight! (Actually it's two separate return tickets, $574 Halifax-London with Canadian Affair, then another $130 London-Pisa on EasyJet, but I don't mind booking two tickets.)
Oh this is not good...not good at all.
I do so want to spend more, more, more time in Florence, but...can I really afford it, that's the question.
I'd have bought the tickets already if only we weren't going to be tuition-poor with Ginger starting university this fall. (Not that I begrudge my beautiful daughter her education of course!)
Hmmm, but I do have a small investment kicking around from the days before I had a pension plan, and it is a-calling my name ("cash me", it cries, "CASH ME NOW AND BUY THAT PLANE TICKET!!!")
On the other hand, I'm not sure if I should go away so soon after Ginger starts university...what if she needs her mommy? (Ok, so that's probably just wishful thinking on my part!)
Waffle, waffle...
As further proof I'm slipping past the point of no return, I just checked out the apartment (Dante) we rented last summer, and yup, you guessed correctly...it's available in October.
I've also never travelled alone before, but have nobody to go with me right now. My sister isn't in a point in her life where travel is an option, my mom just got back from Spain so isn't interested in another trip so soon (plus I think she wants to take her next trip with her husband), Dave won't have enough vacation time since he just started a new job today...and I can't think of anyone in my circle of friends with both the money and the inclination to humour this whim of mine and come away with me.
Ahhhhh, what to do, what to do???? I guess you'll have to stay tuned for my decision...even I don't know which way it will go!


text: Havent posted an inshore report in a long time but here goes. We fished the incoming tide started off sight fishing in shallow and as the tide creeped in we started fan casting in the mullet schools in 1-2 ft of water with salt and pepper bottom. We were throwing the new slayer inc sst on 1/8 slayer inc predator jigheads and sebile floating stick shad. We caught 30 reds a dozen trout and 1 small snook in about 4 hours. Most reds were between 24"-27" with a few rats and oversized fish mixed in. My buddy adam that was with me hooked a 14"-15" trout while he was reeling it in 10-15 redfish attacked it and when in got to the boat the trout was dead pretty crazy stuff. Any rate the reds are chewing pretty good get out and catch em up ....here are a few pics from the trip.


text: > > No PCI interrupt routing table was found. > > Well, that's bad. That means we don't know which PCI devices are > connected to which PCI interrupt (PIRQ) pins: > > > Interrupt router at 00:07.0: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 PCI-to-ISA bridge > > PIRQ1 (link 0x60): unrouted > > PIRQ2 (link 0x61): irq 10 > > PIRQ3 (link 0x62): irq 11 > > PIRQ4 (link 0x63): unrouted > > What I would do is to first try setting: > > PCIC_OPTS="pci_irq_list=10,10" > > and see if that works. If not, try 11,11. If that also fails, then > try moving the adapter to another PCI bus slot and repeat the tests. > > -- Dave thanks for the new info. unfortunately i have tried the card in every pci slot, with each permutation of PCIC_OPTS="", PCIC_OPTS="pci_irq_list=10,10", and PCIC_OPTS="pci_irq_list=11,11", and i still get Tx timeouts from the card. Where does the trouble lie? Is it that the PCI/PCMICA bridge doesn't correctly interface with PCI (because all my other devices are working!)? thanks for your help d -- Douglas S. J. De Couto email@example.com


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Price, Lee match heat, precision in Game 1 duel
Poised for showdown, elite lefties have shined on big stage
By Lyle Spencer / MLB.com
Two of those four will be engaged in an old-fashioned showdown on Wednesday at Tropicana Field in Game 1 of what promises to be a rousing American League Division Series.
Price and Lee, carrying the banners and hopes of AL East champion Tampa Bay and AL West kingpin Texas, respectively, will match heat and precision in what shapes up as a classic confrontation.
Both clubs are hoping to be at close to full strength with the return from injuries of marquee stars. Evan Longoria, the Rays' dynamic third baseman, is expected to be recovered from his quad ailment, while Josh Hamilton, the Rangers' AL MVP candidate, showed the Angels over the weekend that his bat can still sing after missing 24 games with two small fractures in his rib cage.
Lee, acquired from the Mariners on July 9 in a six-player swap, established himself as a big-game pitcher with few peers last October with the Phillies. He was 4-0 in five postseason starts, his team winning all five. In 40 1/3 innings, he yielded 27 hits and six walks, striking out 33.
Price also has impressive October credentials, but in a different role. During the Rays' magical ride to the 2008 World Series, the kid from Vanderbilt fashioned a 1.59 ERA in five relief appearances.
He is best remembered for getting the final four outs -- three on third strikes -- in a 3-1 Game 7 triumph over the Red Sox in the ALCS. It was merely the biggest game in franchise history.
A starter now with Cy Young Award-worthy numbers, Price was named the AL's All-Star Game starter and came through with two impressive innings.
The big stage, clearly, doesn't bother the 6-foot-6, 220-pound athlete from Murfreesboro, Tenn.
Lee is also a native of the South, from Benton, Ark. He is, by most statistical measures, the most precise pitcher on the planet. In 212 1/3 innings this season, he walked 18 batters while striking out 185. Nobody is even remotely close to that strikeouts-to-walks ratio.
"He's kind of like the impact player you need this time of year," veteran Rangers southpaw Darren Oliver said. "You'd rather have him on your team than against you.
"He's a carefree guy. It's like he's playing Wiffle ball in the neighborhood. It's how he rolls. If you have success with it, why change?"
Price takes a more intense approach, creating a fascinating contrast in personal styles.
For Price and Lee, this is the rematch of an Aug. 16 matchup in Florida that went to the Rays, 6-4. Price lasted six innings, yielding two earned runs on five hits and five walks, striking out eight. He was not involved in the decision when Tampa Bay rallied late against Lee.
Lee went 7 2/3 innings, giving up six earned runs on nine hits. He walked one and struck out 10, taking the loss after the Rays scored twice in the eighth inning.
"That has nothing to do with what's going to happen [in Game 1]," Lee said. "It has zero bearing on the game. It's a new game. We start over on a new slate, and I'm going to expect to go out there and have success -- and I would anticipate them thinking the same thing."
The Rays pinned a pair of May losses on Lee while he was with Seattle. He went eight innings, giving up four earned runs, on May 5 in his second start for the Mariners and dropped a 2-1 decision 11 days later in the Trop. In those three outings, Lee yielded 12 earned runs in 23 2/3 innings, allowing 24 hits and two walks while striking out 25.
Lee is 6-5 lifetime with a 2.87 ERA against Tampa Bay. He has a history of tying up the Rays' primary threats. Longoria is hitting .167 against him with one extra-base hit, a double, in 18 at-bats. Crawford is batting .241 with a triple in 29 at-bats. B.J. Upton (.333, 21 at-bats), Ben Zobrist (.308, 13 at-bats) and Carlos Pena (three homers but only a .207 average) have solved Lee at times.
Price hasn't beaten Texas in four career starts, with a 7.45 ERA -- his highest against any AL club.
In Price's relatively limited dealings with the Rangers' hitters, Michael Young is 2-for-7 with five RBIs, and Nelson Cruz is 2-for-4 with a homer and two RBIs. Hamilton has struggled against Price, going 1-for-6 with two strikeouts. Vladimir Guerrero is 2-for-7 against the Rays' ace.
"He'll try to get you to chase out of the zone with his breaking ball, off-speed pitches," Hamilton said. "Just let your ability take over and react to pitches, because he's had a good year. He's proven himself in the league. So we'll take what he gives us and try to put the barrel on the ball. Keep it simple."
One mission for the Rangers is wiping out any and all memories of their regular-season horrors indoors. They were 0-3 inside the Trop, taking two of three in the great outdoors of Rangers Ballpark.
Lyle Spencer is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Nichols: Another big lead lost is becoming a familiar story for SMU basketball
UNIVERSITY PARK – Team holds opponent to 27 percent shooting on way to big lead but then struggles to hang on.
SMU fans have seen this movie. Saturday's matinee performance before 3,642 at Moody Coliseum differed only in the score and opposing cast. The dramatic ending, a 72-69 loss to East Carolina, was oh so familiar.
The Mustangs led by as much as 17 in the first half. They shot 51.6 percent and played tough defense, allowing the Pirates only seven field goals on 26 attempts.
But as if on cue, East Carolina guard Akeem Richmond went virtually unconscious. He made five consecutive three-pointers, including three to match his scoring average in a 45-second stretch. The Pirates went from 11 down at halftime to four points ahead in 10:25.
"He just got in a rhythm," said SMU guard Jalen Jones, whose 18-point, 11-rebound performance was for naught. "He kept knocking down shots he couldn't make in the first half."
The loss knocked SMU (13-14) below .500 for the first time in coach Larry Brown's first season.
After going 10-5 in non-conference play, the Mustangs are 3-9 in Conference USA. East Carolina (16-10, 7-6) has won four of its last five.
Complicating the Mustangs' frustration is their inability to hold leads. They have blown leads to lose by four or fewer points in five of their last nine games.
Saturday's contest was eerily similar to SMU's 84-80 overtime loss to Houston. The Cougars trailed by 19 after shooting 33.3 percent in the first half, but stormed back in the second on 69.6 percent shooting.
The Mustangs seemed in control again versus East Carolina. An 18-3 run gave them a 28-11 lead with 4:05 left in the first half.
But the Pirates chipped the deficit to 11 at halftime. Richmond made only one basket in the first half. But he made six straight three-pointers in a 4:25 span, scoring all but two of his team's points during a 20-6 run.
Still, the Mustangs trailed only 70-69 after Nick Russell's fastbreak slam and his team's only three-pointer with nine seconds left. Russell finished with 16 points and nine assists.
After two East Carolina free throws, SMU inbounded with :09 left, Russell drew a crowd and passed to Cannen Cunningham, whose three-point attempt clanged off the rim.
"If you feel like something bad is going to happen, it will," Brown said of his young team. "They don't understand the stuff that great programs do. But it will come.
We've got great kids and a great staff."
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I have been buying this brand of chicken for around a year now as I find it to be of good quality, good value and tasty.
The packaging is simple and minimalistic, the meat simply comes in a clear plastic tray which has a transparent film lid which I like as this way I can pick the pack with the biggest portions, lol. There's a small sticker on the left hand side which has the Tesco Value branding on and it also states the product name and use-by date.
Price and Value for Money
The price varies depending on which size pack you decide to buy. For a small pack which contains two packs, it is just £2, while the medium is £4 and the large £6. It works out at £1 per chicken breast which I think is really good value and much cheaper than a majority of other brand chicken breasts. I also like that it isn't dirt cheap, as that way i'm not too worried that it's not great quality - it's brilliant quality and worth every penny.
Appearence, Taste and Smell
These chicken breasts look identical to any other, to be honest! They're skinless and light pink in colour although turn a nice shade of pale white when cooked through. They often have a speckle or two of blood but this doesn't bother me and it dissapears once the chicken has bein cooked. I've had cheap chicken breasts in the past that had a grey tinge to them (gross I know!) once cooked and these definetly do not. They taste lovely and are nice and meaty - not wattery at all like some people associate with cheap chicken, and are tender with no fatty bits or gristle, I really can not fault the taste and don't see why anyone would pay more for their chicken! Obviously I am aware of animal welfare/organic chickens etc but as a student on somewhat of a budget I like to keep costs down as much as I can and I really don't see this as a value product as it tastes as any other chicken would. The smell is quite nice, it doesn't smell overpowering or particulary meaty, I suppose it just smells the same as any other chicken does when it's cooking!
These chicken breasts can be cooked by your preferred method, such as in the oven or perhaps the grill. I simply chop them up with a pair of scissors, put them into the frying pan along with some oil and fry them for 5-8 minutes until the pink flesh has turned white. I usually cook my chicken until it's slightly browned, and it doesn't take long to accomplish this with these chicken breasts - they cook well and thoroughly, and i've never had any issues with them tasting off/strange. The breasts do not shrink too much from cooking (they do a bit, but most meat does this) and i've never noticed it to be greasy or wattery.
Meal Ideas
I usually use these chicken breasts in homemade curries, or sometimes do my own version of sweet and sour chicken. It is also great in stir fries, soups, stews and makes a nice quick meal when matched with chips and peas. I sometimes have the leftovers cold in a sandwich the next day wth salt, mayo and pepper and it tastes lovely cold.
Use By Date
The chicken breasts are fresh and have a 4 day life code meaning that from the date you buy them you should use them within four days unless obviously the four days go over the sell-by date. I usually buy 3 or 4 packs and then freeze them, I then defrost one pack of them overnight and eat it the next day.
These chicken breasts are really healthy and contain on average 113 calories per 100 grams of chicken breast. They also contain plenty of protein - 21 grams per 100 grams to be precise!
I really can not fault these chicken breasts, they are cheap, tasty and healthy and I am able to make a variety of yummy meals out of them. Reccomended!
When it comes to buying fresh meat produce, I am always a little sceptical about own brand stock, particularly when it comes to something such as chicken. However, we regularly buy this chicken breast meat from Tesco, and are rarely disappointed.
The packaging is basic, as you would expect from any Value product. A plain plastic tray with a film lid, and the familiar blue and white labelling on the packaging telling you what you're getting. It's hard to see exactly what you're getting inside, as although you can see the top, the smooth breast, it's often what's on the underneath of it that is the real cause for concern, and what tells you whether you're getting meat or gristle and fat.
Don't be dissuaded though, because once you have opened up the packaging, then you find that the quality of the meat isn't that bad at all. There may be little bits that you might want to cut off, such as stringy pieces and a bit of fat or gristle, but it's hardly anything, and you barely lose any meat at all. Dicing the meat up, as we often do, it feels of good quality, and cooking it there is no discernible difference to any other chicken breasts we have tried.
The breasts are chunky and you do get a substantial amount with this product. The worry is that there won't be much there at all, that you'll merely get a think breast and half of it will be bits you don't really want to eat. I do find that the Value drumsticks or wings or thighs can be a bit disappointing, but these breasts are a surprise gem.
Usually, we'll have these to dice up and put in for a curry, but occasionally we cook it whole and use for a meal requiring the breast to be whole. Either way, we have never had a problem with the breasts we have bought from this range. We have tried getting other ranges, which inevitably cost more, and no doubt the way the chicken has been treated is different, or the sourcing is better, but there was no noticeable difference with them in comparison to this chicken.
Tastewise, well, it tastes like chicken! There's no dry texture or any indication you're getting something of lesser quality, and I'm more than happy to continue buying this product. It's good for dicing up and using in curries, or for making whole meals.
There's clever pricing as well. I find it really useful that for a packet of 2 breasts, it's going to cost you £2. Then they package 4 breasts, and this is £4. There is also a £6 package, which usually has 5 or 6 breasts in it. They do work it out on weight, and this generally means that if there is a particularly big breast, then you get 5 as opposed to 6, and very occasionally the £4 packet gives you 3 breasts, but generally, the number of pounds is the number of breasts. It makes it very practical shopping when you're trying to work out how much a meal is going to cost you.
I really don't have any negatives about this product. For what it is, it's a great bargain. Quality tasting chicken in practical packaging with practical pricing. I highly recommend getting it if you're on a budget, which I know plenty of people are all the time. The quality of the chicken may not be as good as other ranges, I really don't know. All I know is what my limited cooking and preparation skills can tell me, as well as what I think tastes good, and this is good as far as I am concerned. It represents good value, and I think that is just as important as anything else. Recommended


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Celebrity photographer David Bailey is famed for the 1960s personalities he immortalised in black-and-white. The faces of stars like Mick Jagger, Bob Dylan, Catherine Deneuve, David Bowie and - my own youthful idol! - the waif-like Jean Shrimpton with her huge, porous eyes, flow from his white backgrounds as though his lens can't contain them.
In its new exhibition, Bailey's Stardust, the National Portrait Gallery brings over 300 portraits, from the 1960s-70s, right up to the 21st century and, while his favoured black-and-white images are still the most effective, Bailey literally flowers into colour with his portraits of Zandra Rhodes in red glitter with a pink pageboy hairdo or a bejewelled Molly Parkin, age-defying and yet vulnerable in style and make-up.
Bold or subtle, Bailey pares down his subjects to their very essence. One room is devoted to striking fashion icons and another to his 1974 trip to Papua New Guinea, featuring huge portraits of tribesmen in feathers of the Kukuku bird. Bailey is immersed in all human life. The show continues until 1 June and is worth a visit.
The 16th-century development of chiaroscuro woodcut techniques brought Renaissance masters like Parmigianino, Raphael and Titian to wider audiences, much as photography has done in our time. The revolutionary principles used by artists to produce well-known biblical scenes essentially brought colour printing to clients using light and shadow, or chiaroscuro, to accentuate linear movement, volume, colour and depth. Renaissance Impressions: Chiaroscuro Woodcuts from the Collections of Georg Baselitz and the Albertina, Vienna, at the Royal Academy until 8 June this year, features over 150 rare prints of famous paintings, supplementing the black-line block with one or several tone blocks to produce varying grades of colour to generate light and depth. The revolutionary technique was a two-way collaboration between the artist, who drew the design, and the craftsman, who carved it in relief on the woodblock, using soft woods like cherry wood.
The technique was pioneered in Germany, where the artist Lucas Cranach went so far as to backdate two of his works to prove he had invented it. Several printmakers competed in their claims of authorship. Other German artists, like Hans Baldung Grien and Hans Wechtlin from Albrecht Dürer's circle, developed the woodcut soon taken up by the Italians and the Dutch.
Within a few years of its invention, Ugo da Carpi made his own claim to the medium, portraying works after Raphael. But the Italian differed by cutting his own woodblocks and avoiding the black-key block, to produce a more painterly effect. The expressive quality of the wood enhanced the texture of the woodcut, while the chiaroscuro effect suggested light and shade.
Antonio da Trento and Niccolo Vicentino, Domenico Beccafumi and Andrea Andreani. experimented further. Typically of their times, the more violent themes prove the most expressive. Andreani's Rape of a Sabine Woman, after Giambologna, is among the most beautiful in composition. The leading Dutch exponent Hendrick Goltzius's woodcut Hercules Killing Cacus is another example of the colour and depth the medium can produce.
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Films like Total Recall remind us how little we understand about how our brain - and our consciousness - shape our realities.
How erasable do they think our memories are? Are we already meant to have forgotten the original Total Recall and its career-best performance from Arnold Schwarzenegger as someone whose secret agent dreams may have more substance than his humdrum reality?
It's barely 20 years since Paul Verhoeven's freewheeling adaptation of David Cronenberg's reworking of Philip K Dick's story, We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, became an instant sci-fi classic. So why the remake with Colin Farrell and Kate Beckinsale that's just been released? And why now?
Given that much of the 1990 Total Recall unfolds on Mars, it's tempting to find significance in the new film having had its US release within days of Nasa successfully landing their largest ever rover, Curiosity, on the Red Planet. The only tiny problem with this theory, and one of several big problems with the remake, is that this time round there's no Martian action. Maybe they didn't have the budget to go there.
Which brings us to the reason why anyone should try – and in this case fail – to improve on a movie that revels in the bizarre possibilities of waking up to find your memories have been altered and you are not yourself.
The denizens of Hollywood's dream factory have always been attracted to tangled tales of life as a fairground hall of mirrors, of boundaries blurred between what's real and illusion, of virtual realties. True lies, as Arnie himself might put it. Total Recall is one of the wild cards in a pack which – off the top of my not-entirely-reliable head – includes Inception, Memento, Vertigo, Spellbound, Fight Club, A Beautiful Mind, Identity, The Matrix, The Truman Show, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, eXistenZ, Long Kiss Goodnight, Brazil and Dark City.
There are hundreds more, even if you don't count all those horror films that attempt to inject a quick fix of thrills using dreams, dream-within-dreams and movies-within-movies. But there's one film, which more than any other I know, provides an unexpected inside-our-minds insight into why these kind of cinematic "reality checks" remain so compelling and popular. And it's a documentary about climbing.
Brain riddle
Touching the Void follows two mountaineers on a near fatal 1985 expedition in the Andes. The 2003 documentary used dramatised scenes with the original climbers playing themselves. There's a sequence, not in the original release but among the DVD extras, where one of them – dressed in the gear he'd been in when he broke his leg and was later left for dead – starts to freak out. He begins to think he's still on the original expedition trying to crawl back to base camp, and that everything that's happened in the last 18 years is just a figment of his imagination, a fantasy his mind has created to comfort himself as he loses the battle to survive.
It's a chilling moment – emphasised later when he angrily tells the crew: "Do you have any idea how bad it was? ... I died here!" For all the fictional examples of someone flipping between alternative realities, it's the only instance I know where you can see it happen to someone who is a person, not a character. It shows how tenuous our grasp can be of where, when and even who we are. We continuously assemble our own universe and position ourselves in it based on our memories, our sense of self and what we are currently perceiving. Change enough of those inputs and we can switch from one version of events to another if it seems more plausible.
Most of us have experienced low-level versions of this when we wake up, perhaps in a strange bed, possibly hung-over, and briefly struggle to come up with a coherent story that fits all the known facts. It helps explains phenomena like false memories, déjà vu, or confabulation, where we effectively lie to ourselves about our own lives.
But the trickier issue isn't why we can occasionally lose our bearings. It's how we are consistently able to keep them. What enables the vast majority of us to develop an identity and to maintain it even though we have this nasty habit of plunging into unconsciousness every night? How can each of us be sure the "me" that wakes up is the same as the "me" that went to sleep? Is there any way to reliably tell whether what we see and feel and remember is real rather than illusion or delusion?
There's much fun to be had – as well as a lot of heavy duty philosophy, metaphysics and epistemology to wade through – wrestling with such easy-to-ask, fiendish-to-answer questions. And even if we get past them, or at least put them to one side, that still leaves us with what's going on within ourselves to enable all these experiences and perceptions (and deceptions) to be integrated into something, someone, with a sense of themselves.
We are still a long way from developing a widely agreed neuroscience of consciousness, with many researchers shying away from an area so overshadowed by philosophy and riddled with subjectivity. There are all sorts of theories from it arising from high-frequency resonances between different regions of the brain, to it being a form of quantum computing taking place on an atomic scale in microtubules in neurons across the brain and possibly beyond.
Some of the current thinking on this would blow your mind – if only, as we've established, it weren't so tricky nailing down what we mean by "mind". And by "your". What we can under the circumstances be reasonably sure is true is that for all our scientific understanding of ourselves and our brains, we remain very hazy on how our selves and our brains fit together.
It's not something we tend to think about... except perhaps fleetingly on those mornings we wake up disoriented in a strange bed having had one drink too many. Or when a movie deliberately messes with our head.
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Paul Thurrott, who seemingly has some inside knowledge of Microsoft's Xbox division, has stated that the Next Xbox announcement has been pushed back from its previous projected date of April
Dem last minute changes.
From the article: "Thurrot also originally proposed the idea of Microsoft announcing the new Xbox in April".
So Michael Patcher 2.0 is retracting his prediciton. Okay. I think it's important to remember that officially, a successor to the Xbox 360 doesn't exist.
It has nothing to do with changing the specs of the NextBox.
That is not possible at this state if we take as a consideration of possible release date on November. The only thing that they can change/upgrade is the HDD and "Maybe" just saying maybe a little more of the same type of RAM.
So the only thing that I can think of is a possible reveal at the E3 (So they don't have to pull 2 shows with only 1 month of difference in between them)
Are you serious believing that they don't want to leaking?
Who are going to copy them now? Valve?
Sony already show their specs so its not gonna be Sony to copy xbox its rather xbox copy PS4. LOL
@ xxLucky - it's getting pretty late in the day to copy anything - we're seven-to-eight months from launch, far too late to meaningfully change hardware specs (without pushing the launch back into 2014) - and Sony would look right odd changing them just after detailing what those hardware specs are. It's very odd that MS has basically conceded the first half of the year, media-wise, to the PS4 - they want to be getting their ideas and the like out there (both to the public and developers).
With the rumor of "always on" getting so much negative attention. I wouldn't be surprised if this is why it was pushed back. To rethink the idea or maybe get rid of it all together.
They need to UP UP UP their specs after the event of 20 Feb, that's why.
@shoryuken & axe99 actually MS changed the amount of RAM the 360 had after they announced their specs, not long before the console release.
And about the copying, it doesnt necessary have to be the specs, look at how fast the WiiU second screen concept got 'stolen' by MS with smartglass and by Sony with the Vita
...I know!
I mean Sega outright STOLE from the WiiU with their Dreamcast controller insert screen. No integrity with these time-travelling developers!
(All technological pushes are founded on 99% imitation, 1% innovation - Its just that the innovation and subsequent application is massively important!)
Scared of Sony??? Lol they could buy Sony 20 times over, if they wanted to lol
@Silver Beld,DatjDom81, DrakesFortune, LuckyStrike,and Nodoze
Thays some pathetic shit LMAO!
you guys need a life...
Hell they should just wait until E3 now since its going to me in May.
Well the countdown on major nelson's website that was covered all over the gaming media including n4g back on January 2nd 2013 that's counting down to E3 is the first time MS has ever done a countdown so it was pretty much expected that MS would reveal the next xbox at E3.
I don't know why anyone would believe this nobody who's rumor was that MS would announce in April and now pushed back to May. Why would MS do that when they already have a countdown to E3 to do it?
Yeah but E3 won't solve MS's problems, it will only highlight them, because Sony will also be at E3, with a ton of stuff to show off. And so will Nintendo and Valve. MS will have to share the spotlight 4 ways, with Sony having the biggest shine (so far) of the 4.
Seriously, MS better do a show before E3 or else it won't get the individual attention it needs. The question however, is does MS even have a worthy next-gen console reveal that is worth watching? Or is it just more apps, Kinect, and Usher.
A delay makes one wonder...
but they want the hype train to be going prior to E3 so more people will tune in to E3 to see all the games and learn all the specific details of the console.
I'm pretty sure MS is pushing back the Durango announcement to the third week(sometime during 11-13) in June.
It would be silly to make a announcement in May and E3 right in June.
I believe he tweeted it for May 21st.
I wouldn't call it silly. Announcing not long before E3 would make it the thing being talked about in the run up to E3. I'd say that would be a smart move.
I think they are moving away from the NFL draft. I thought it was stupid to do it around that weekend anyway. If it has been pushed back. Most of the target audience will be watching the draft.
Good thing too. They better not release this until its ready. We wouldn't want another RROD episode!
Besides, there are plenty of Xbox 360 games to keep people busy even if the next Xbox doesn't release this year. MGSV, BF4, next COD, Fifa, AC IV, Watch Dogs...etc..etc. AND OF COURSE GTA V!
I'm not sure Konami said MGS 5 was coming to Xbox
"plenty of Xbox 360 games to keep people busy even if the next Xbox doesn't release this year. MGSV, BF4, next COD, Fifa, AC IV, Watch Dogs...etc..etc. AND OF COURSE GTA V!"
lol. they're all multiplats so technically, they aren't 360 games
*I apologize for my inner fanboy*
@WildStyles... Last minute changes? Changes to what exactly? Oh ... last minute changes to rumors. I see. rumored event, rumored specs, rumors, rumors, rumors...
So you're saying it all just springs into existence at the moment of announcement? If games are being developed for a launch later in the year, then there are specs of some kind. They may or may not be making or considering changes, but to say it's an impossibility because there's nothing to change is pretty silly.
Who knows??? As long as they get it right. Whatever they have cookin. One thing MS don't seem to worried about Sony and the PS4. CANNNNN YOUUUUUU SMEEEEEEEEL WHAT MS IS COOKIN!!!!
Looks like someone one got cold feet. MS can't even put on a simple show that highlights some of the offerings of the next xbox? Really?!
"@thurrott how do you know?"
"@darrenb1988 Hi, I'm Paul Thurrott. Nice to meet you."
Come on man. The surface event actually showed hardware lol and it runs real software lol. It's one of the best reveals in a while. They learned alot from Steve jobs.
You can't tell me they're not scrambling to compete!
Yet everyone's saying that Microsoft isn't concerned! Hell if I was a console maker I'd be concerned.
Like I said earlier, the fact that Sony launched a pre-emtive strike by announcing first has put Microsoft at a disadvantage.
Some don't want to hear it, but it's only logical, especially since Sony duped Microsoft by saying that they would allow Microsoft to make an announcement first! What that did was allow Microsoft an opportunity to fall into a false sense of security. Thinking that there was no rush, then BAMM! Sony makes an announcement.
Talk about "Punch Drunk"! I would say that would be a accurate description of what was going on at Microsoft Headquarters. Kind of reminds me of when Iron Mike Tyson first fought Spinks. Mike Tyson replied after the fight " I just hit him in his equilibrium, I knew I had him!" Lol
Like I support the moves Sony are making, you support the moves Microsoft are making! So your reply means "What Exactly"?
Seems like you're defending the team you support! See no spin involved.
"The ms surface is way more sexier than the ps4 right now. I mean it has an i5 CPU in it and it can run big boy programs. That is not even a gaming platform."
It can run "big boy" applications precisely because it isnt a gaming platform. You think the next xbox is going to be capable of running Office and Visual Studio?
I think Microsoft is afraid of showing a new console that won't come out blazing like PS4 did.
Microsoft would NEED to have a library of ready games, promises, features that can compete with PS4 and make it look Better somehow....
Them doing it in April, we could presume the Hype for PS4 would still be around so they want to wait until it POSSIBLY dies down?....Perhaps.
Yes, in your world Ballmer is at home literally crapping bricks.
You should go watch Barbarians at the Gate and then tell me if they're scared.
Yes, because Microsoft employees aren't allowed to feel fear, anxiety, anticipation and business-pressure.
Good logic. If I say they're afraid and for good reason, you illogically have to make an exaggerated story to counter it? Lol OKAY THEN. Let's see exactly what Microsoft does for themselves in trying to outdo what everyone knows the PS4 is capable of and surpassing it outside of Kinect 2.0 and Always-Online.
Good or bad, people are talking about next Xbox. It's a rumor of a rumor of a rumor of a ....
Some of these comments are quite funny.
I heard a rumor that the next Xbox is going to have 16 heads, 5 torsos, 13 eyes and 5 tails.
Damnit MS....
EDIT: People saying "MS scared" Please, scared of what?
Anyway I am upset that MS is delaying the reveal. The more they delay the more people will expect. So far, I am expecting allot, all this waiting better be worth it at the end.
Despite my frustration, I'm still rootin for MS.
scared of what??? scared of sony fool!!!!
I cannot wait for E3.
Sony most certainly have a sale from me whatever happens. It seems to be pushing all the right buttons.
The thing I find most odd is the early reveal from Sony. Was it reactionary based on something they found out about the competition or just saw an opportunity?
MS have every chance to get me on board too. It worries me that they seem quite happy to change personality for turning a quick profit though.
Despite owning a 360, the evolution of the product to me feels artificially orchestrated and engineered like a board meeting of how to make a 'successful games machine' but it also has to be said that quite a few of those ideas actually turned out pretty damn good. We hear that the platform is great to develop for and much of the operating system and features are great too.
I suppose the great thing about their silence is that you cannot truly dismiss it until they are ready to let us in on it.
it could mean they are changing the always on DRM aspect since that would probably signal the end of the machine.
Who the hell would buy a console with no used game option?
Telling you, Microsoft got caught with their pants down, just as they did to Sony last gen.
First was march (no show) then it was april and now is may.... just leave it for E3 so they can have something to talk about beside Kinect 2 and the new core gamers(the ladies)
You say Halo, Gears, Fable have run its course??
PS4 announces Killzone 4 & Infamous 2, & some Knack Sh**... and Halo 4 outsold the entire Killzone Franchise by itself...Now, who has run its course?
M$ isn't announcing anything because they dont have to!
The 360 is still making great sales & money.
SONY didnt even show a machine, they just talked.
M$ basically said to N4G & SONY "you have nothing"! We (M$) can wait til E3 to blow you away, period!
theyve doubts after watching the impressive PS4
You can't push back or cancel a event that was never announced, lol! Maybe someone relized they didnt know what they were talking about for said April event? Why can't people just deal with the fact WE KNOW NOTHING about the next xbox, DAMN!
P.S. this isn't even news its a rumor on a rumor, lmao!
Rumor-inception as it has fondly become to be known.
Question, has the timer counting down to E3 been reset? No? Then the reveal remains as it was originally planned.
In May, this dude will claim it has been pushed even further to June. Watch this space.
I highly doubt these rumored Xbox press events were real to being with. I just don't see M$ doing that, when they can just wait till E3 and announce/show off everything about the Next-Gen Xbox all in one show and "try" to steal some of Sony's thunder within a 2.5hr press conference.
Try but if its just confirmed rumours it wont work to just show specs
Sony probably made em sweat a little bit so they need to modify the console
So he is debunking his previous rumor by making another rumor?
Those MS insiders.
It's called Rumorception...a rumor within a rumor lol
Why have a countdown to E3 if they're going to announce it before?
Thank you, someone on this site who uses their mind. There is not doubt we won't see a reveal until E3. The countdown site made that very clear in my mind. What changes do people expect them to do? Games are already developed, systems are close, if not already, in development for the fall release. MS is just going to do a huge E3, simple as that.
Microsoft announcing the new Xbox in April only a rumor. Not offical.
The 360 was announced in May.
making adjustments of a reveal rumor with another inside rumor is humor :-)
how can push something back that has never been announced?
just proves that there is no known fact about the next Xbox .... just wait for E3 to find out .....
the only clue we have that is solid fact is the countdown started by major nelson
But there's no solid proof that the countdown pertains to the next xbox specifically either!
You sir read with ur eyes closed I.clearly said the word CLUE that we have is a countdown that is a fact at this moment.....
But once again it's speculation! Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so, until it's revealed to be true! So far the ones who could do that is Microsoft themselves, and they haven't yet.
The same happened with Sony, it was all speculations until Sony revealed them to be true.
Good sir I understand what you're saying it' more so in response to what was said above you, I just couldn't reply directly
@ Stuna, He never said that is when they will do it, he just said more info we have right now points to an E3 announcement. Simple as that.
Lol maybe they're pulling a fast one on Sony like what Sony did to MS.
Unless MS sent out invites to Media and investors to attend this "April Event" you can't really say they are pushing anything back. Thats like saying a game that had no release date but was rumored to becoming in May and then gets officially announced for a June release is getting "pushed back".
Once I hear invites have been sent to attend, I will believe its real.
if they keep on doing this, then I am surely getting a ps4 this holiday by the way MS don't have any appealing exclusives other than halo and GOW if u are thinking of third party games they will be released on ps4 also..
so just stop the hype....future of Xbox= Kinect play..
Well maybe they heard their fans and the gaming community in general and said to themselves "bad idea!"
either way good for them...
Here's a rumor.
MS is partnering with Comcast for their exclusive internet provider and will be offering 3 different package deals.
1. Basic Box - $9.95 a month / Same as Silver but with basic cable.
2. Premium Box - $29.95 a month / Same as Gold now but offers more channels but comes with a 20G DVR.
3. Platinum Box - $69.95 a month / Same as Gold but offers some services for free, comes with a 100G DVR, over 700 channels & over 140 in HD. That's FULL HD
Ends sarcasm
angry face......you had me reading all the way.. kmt
It would be kinda funny. Plus if you have crazy roommate drama the Kinect camera will sense that and start recommending the t.v. shows, Friends and Seinfeld.
Of course MS is taking its time because the NExt box will have BC with the X360. If they announced it now, sales of X360 will dropped. It is smart business, why do you think MS keep rolling in $$$?
Great logic.
Sell the 360 to new customers now while they can. The kind of customer who waits eight years to buy a 360 will surely buy a 720 soon anyway, so MS might as well squeeze that 360 sale in their too. Sound business strategy right there.
It's a great way for MS to double up on those ultra-profitable hardware sales, while avoiding the costly business of letting the existing 80 million 360 owners know that they can go ahead and buy all the 360 games they want from this point forward knowing they will all work on the 720.


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Dealing with distance
I have been in a relationship with a wonderful man for over a year now. We are both in our mid-20s and met in college in Boston, though we did not start dating until after I moved to the NYC area for medical school. We are supportive of each other in our careers and related goals, we are on the same page about our future plans, and we are very much in love. However there is one big issue between us -- 300 miles and two promising, growing careers. As previously mentioned, I am currently in medical school (about halfway through) in NYC and he is starting his career in Boston with a job that he loves in a company that he sees himself growing with.
We try to schedule as much visiting time as possible and talk every day via text and Skype multiple times a week, but at times it doesn't feel like enough. I fantasize about what it would be like to have him around to support me in person on a more regular basis, and I find myself sometimes feeling jealous of my friends who are not in long-distance relationships. I don't always feel so negatively about the distance -- at times when school is really picking up, the distance doesn't seem so bad -- but when things slow down or just in general lately, I feel like I need him around more than is possible. I become especially concerned about these feelings when I think about starting my clinical rotations in June, when my schedule will be much busier and I might need more support from my significant other.
We do have a long-term goal, as all long-distance relationships should have, an end point of me graduating medical school. We have agreed that when that happens, he will follow me to wherever my residency is at that time (hopefully back in Boston!). In light of this, him changing jobs now and moving to my area doesn't seem to make very much sense as he would potentially have to change jobs again in two years when I get a residency.
Basically what I'm looking for here is some advice as to how to make the distance easier. I have a great support group of friends and family (I'm from the area I live now), I have hobbies and am involved in my community. I feel like my boyfriend and I communicate well and are on the same page about wanting to see more of each other more consistently, but it's really starting to make me sad thinking about how our relationship can't grow to its full potential right now. These next two years are starting to feel like a reeeeally long time. Any advice, especially from any commenters who survived a long-term long-distance relationship would be greatly appreciated!
– Another Long Distance Letter in NYC
The only way to deal with the long-distance issue is to spend more money, make more trips, and ... well, all the things you're already doing.
But let me put this out there: I'm not convinced that you guys should wait two more years before moving to the same place. I understand that your boyfriend has a promising career and a good job, but ... does he really have to stay in Boston right now? Two years is a very, very long time. In fact, it's longer than you've been together. It wouldn't be the worst thing if he got a job in New York, spent a year or two there, and then moved with you again.
I know that what I'm suggesting is easier said than done, and that he might freak out if you try to change the plan, but it's worth a discussion. Again, you guys have two more years of this. Twenty-four months. Maybe it's time to revisit the strategy.
Readers? Should he move? How will she react if she asks him to change the plan? Should he move for someone who's busy with med school? Is there anything they can do to make the distance easier? Help.
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Owsley County, Kentucky is a rural area with 4,000 residents and little industry. For that reason, community leaders in the town of Booneville thought economic development was needed to bring jobs to their town, giving the residents an opportunity to work in the town where they live. A group of citizens and business leaders united to plan the next steps, deciding that creating a golf course would be the wisest move. Despite some opposition to the project, the group formed a 501C nonprofit economic development corporation and began to search for a suitable property. In 2004, they chose a site that was a former strip mine and spent the next three years cleaning the land that would become Sag Hollow Golf Club. Two community-minded institutions in the county, Farmers State Bank and the Peoples Rural Telephone Cooperative, subsidized the project.
Opened in 2007, the Sag Hollow community consists of 125 acres, 50 of which make up the nine-hole golf course, which has nine championship tees. When 20 home lots surrounding the course were offered for sale, they were all sold in 2.5 hours. More home lots will be offered for sale in the near future.
What was once the remains of a strip mine is now a golf community, a setting of natural beauty and peacefulness, bringing money, people and jobs into the county. Six homes have been built on the property, and two of the families moved in from other counties. Depending on the season, the club employs 4–7 people and has 50 members.
"The land was valued at $150,000 when we bought it," says Don Hughes, general manager of the course. "Now the estimated value of the golf course is $1 million, with the six homes having an estimated value of $1.2 million."
Thousands of volunteer hours were donated to clear brush, move rocks and cover the shale with dirt for the grass to grow and to allow irrigation. Two ponds were excavated to create a water source, and a few trees had to be cut.
"The golf course is an ongoing project," says Hughes. "We are in a constant state of improving or maintaining the property. We could have saved a lot of money by spending money at the beginning to do more research about the proper design of the course to minimize the maintenance."
Green #3 had to be rebuilt, which cost $20,000. Some sand traps had to be redone, and it was necessary to watch the runoff when it rained and sent water running down the hill onto the greens. These are things that will be taken into consideration before construction begins on the next nine holes.
"Sag Hollow Golf Club has had a very positive impact on the community," says Hughes.""It has created extra jobs for local people to build houses and work at the club. They have grabbed the opportunity to work here and stay in their home county."
During construction, there were a few citizens who had doubts about a golf course being an asset to Booneville, but the golf community was built for economic development, and as time wore on, a real appreciation for Sag Hollow developed. The gravel county road was paved, and people use the clubhouse for fundraisers, reunions, showers and other events. The community is delighted to have Sag Hollow Golf Club in its midst.
"This is another form of recreation and exercise,"says Eric Mason, a native of Owsley County, who once was a Kentucky State Amateur Golf Champion and is the director of Golf at Sag Hollow. "We also get a lot of beginners, including 30 kids that we once had in the youth league. The local high school uses the course, and the regional Class A golf tournament is held here. In June 2012, 62 people from around the state came for the tournament. Our weekly golf scramble usually brings 40 people here."
Sag Hollow Golf Club continues to grow. The land that once was unusable now has ponds stocked with fish; a golf course to teach the sport to local youth and provide recreation to residents and visitors; and landscaping with shrubs, flowers, trees and native grasses to add beauty and provide a habitat for a variety of wildlife.
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Discussion in 'College Tennis Talk' started by Wilsonbro11, Dec 11, 2012.
Which team has the nicest court?
I would assume Pepperdine has some although I havent been there.
TCU hornfrogs. and of course, best in the country, Stanford tennis.
NOT ContraCostaCollege in SanPablo. Unused surface with weeds 3' long growing from the cracks along most of the painted lines. 8 courts which would be beautiful if they were ever used.
University Of Washington has some sweet facilities.
Agree, UVA has to be up there also. Hey nethawk, a friend of mine is considering retiring in Wenatchee, how is the tennis there ?
Indiana University, their tennis center is fantastic and they have some beautiful outdoor public courts in the center of campus
IU has nothing on purdue
UGA is really nice. Stanford is the Mecca. TAMU, I've heard, is pretty nice. Ohio State has everything too. Haven't been to UVA, but it has to be sweet since all the studs have flocked there recently.
My Gators have it pretty good, and new indoor courts are near complete. Still lack the 12 total competition courts needed to host a regional though.
Looks like Wisconsin's
I love playing at Nordstrom. It just feels so nice.
For DIII, I would say Claremont McKenna and Gustavus Adolphus are up there.
Never been to UVA's outdoor courts, but my high school girl's team played their Regional match last spring at their indoor facility @ Boar's Head. That place is sweet. I suppose having a supporter such as Boyd Tinsley doesn't hurt the cause...
OU, Tulsa, Tennessee, Tyler JC, Auburn. Might be hard to say who has the best.
I don't like the IU indoor facility, bad lighting to play on and really tough to watch everything but 2 courts.
The University of Michigan has a great set up, both indoors and outdoors.
I haven't seen them but I heard that Texas A&M's facilities are incredible, too.
Pepperdine's facilities are pretty nice. The court viewing is not the best but it is hard to beat the ocean views. I'm not a big fan of having to look across two courts to see the third. They also have 10 more courts right next to the PCH that overlook the ocean that they use occasionally.
Wow. Nice work Purdue.
Is that George Costanza on the banner in pic #4?
UGA IS awesome!!!!!
The tennis here is pretty good! If you want to get a lot of solid pickup matches go to lower woodland on the weekends, can get some fun doubles action! UW outdoor courts are good but sometimes hard to find somebody who doesn't already have a hitting partner
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They're amazing, i hit there whenever i can when im home, although paying for parking kinda sucks . I usually end up at lower woodland because of that, but those are some amazing courts too!
i think duke is in the discussion (certainly if we're including volume of the facilities - UGA and stanford have big leads - but i'm just talking about dual match facilities, not ability to host NCAAs or something)
ambler stadium (outdoors) at 2:05
sheffield (indoors) at 2:30
duke does have a nisce facility.
Oklahoma has been building a lot of new courts recently, indoors and outdoors. As a Virginia fan, I also have to agree that we have it pretty nice here.
That is amazingly nice. It's quite clear they get hooked up. Video cameras on every court, with a professional quality viewing center to go over every match? Incredible.
Rice is building some new courts that are supposed to be really nice.
Nice Rice...:twisted:
Are the women going to start competing at NTI's again once the indoor facility is complete?
Minnesota has first rate facillities. 10 indoor with close viewing for 8 of the 10 and 6 with video cameras for live streaming. Indoor facility also has meeting room, locker rooms, concessions, etc. Also, 14 outdoor connected with the indoor; bleacher seating, all right in the middle of campus. They used to have maroon courts with gold lines which was very cool.
What color are the courts now?
I'm trying to remember as I was just there a month or so ago. I believe the standard blue / green combo with some grey trim. They resurface them every year and change it up. Great facility.
Do you think they'll go back to maroon and gold next year?
No idea but I hope so.
one question .. why do all these D1 schools keep building 6 courts without any side fence to divide them,to keep balls from going onto other courts ?? they are also set so close to each other ... is that NCAA specs or something?
I wonder the same. For a wedding gift, my wife and I were gifted a home in the ski resort community above Wenatchee and when we visit a couple times a year we go down into town and hit...it's so different from Texas. There never seems to be anyone playing. Never have seen others hitting...just been at local schools...but we'd love to find a "hidden gem" for when I get up there long term!!!
I don't think it's the NCAA spec's, but it's terribly annoying.
Duke indoor are nice. Played there a few times. They have tournaments during winter break for non Duke people. next one is doubles Jan 4-6.
I'd have to go with Yale's, eight-court indoor.
Penn State:
Speaking of which, how many of these facilities are actually open to the public during non tennis season? The name of this thread should be "Nicest college courts that are open to the public".
Doubt it. Don't need to. Won a 2nd title without it, why add another grueling event to the pre season when Stanford will do home and homes?
As for that Penn State court, are those flag poles the far end? Sure would be an annoying distraction if flags were waving up there during a match.
U Dub.
But parking is a hassle.
Tulsa. They had McEnroe christen the new facility.
Duke. Georgia. Stanford's Taube family stadium.
Emory has some courts on the roof. Good unless it's windy.
Baylor University.
Columbia's got some bubbles. I love the sound in there.
University of the South has a nice setting in the hills of Tennessee.
Virginia's courts are great. Wahoo.
Hellman at UCB - worth a mention, just for the surroundings. Same with UCLA and Pepperdine.
TCU (never seen a dual match, but I went to a futures there). Huge, spread out. Just beautiful.
Baylor sucks, it's always windy there, the players hate it there. One player transferred for that reason alone.
Best outdoor facilities in the ACC in my opinion:
1. FSU: fans can get very close and have a great angle on each of the 6 courts. there are two sets of 6 which allows for a simultaneous men and women's tennis event. Also has point by point scoring on the scoreboards.
2. NC State: Similar to FSU except only 6 not 12 courts. Fans can get right behind the courts from a high angle and watch. Point by point scoring. Also the courts have a red tint for the school colors giving it some personality.
Both NC State and FSU get points for being in the middle of campus
3. Duke: Right in the center of campus which is cool. Good viewing from behind the courts. Not as good as the other two because the stands end at court 5 and you cannot sit right behind 5.
4. Clemson: Good scoreboard and viewing. The stands are little too far away from the courts and there is a fence in the way if you sit too low. Also there are too many seats making it seem like the place is more empty than it is. There is the cool option to stand on the balcony on the other end, where fans are uninhibited by the fence. In the middle of campus. Right on the road and close to downtown excellent location.
5. Georgia Tech. The stands are a bit too low but the courts are right in the city which gives a cool background skyline. They set the players up 1-6 down a line rather the outward fan approach that most use
6. North Carolina. Too secluded. In the middle of the woods no atmosphere around the venue. The courts are spread out too wide and grouped into two groups of 3 courts. Impossible to see action from the other 3 courts from where you are sitting.
7. Wake Forest. No stands. Fans have to stand next to courts like a junior event. In the middle of a grassy field and nowhere near campus.
I have not been to the other ACC facilities. Going to UVA and VT this coming weekend for the first time.
Look up Lambeth Parking Garage on your UVa map. They allow free parking on days of home tennis matches, about 100 yards from the courts.
I can go ahead and tell you about VT. Burrows is a nice facility, but the outdoor courts are grouped into three groups of two. The bleachers are set across courts 1, 3 and 5, making it difficult to see the even courts. Parking is right across the street.
Was it Mr. Horny?
Does the Boar's Head belong to UVA though?
I know, I know "nicest college courts" can obviously include any college courts where a team plays. But, I also like to think "if I went to college at X or Y university, I'd have access to these courts," and, in that context, private clubs wouldn't do me any good. So, what are some of the nicest college-owned courts is a good secondary question.
Yes. UVa owns the entire Boar's Head resort, including the sports club. UVa tennis gets priority on courts. Members are warned of the UVa match schedule, and if weather creates a need to move indoors, then UVa teams get the courts.
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Secondly, why is wanting a change of scenery considered so evil? If Gay feels he's under-utilized, and blamed by the media/fanbase, then a fresh start could be exactly what the doctor ordered.
Secondly, why is wanting a change of scenery considered so evil? If Gay feels he's under-utilized, and blamed by the media/fanbase, then a fresh start could be exactly what the doctor ordered.
Kleiza for an expiring contract may be more reasonable but even then he's been injured quite often so I'm not sure what his value would be like among other teams.
Lowry, Gay, AA, Amir/Davis, JV
I think that is one hell of a linup that will play solid D.
I don't know about you guys but I am having a blast with the current squad we have. Even Jose. I look forward to watching games. I enjoy watching this team rise from the ashes like a phoenix and beating up on teams.
I really am entrtained as a fan, and I can't remember having the strut I have today and I have been a raptor fan for a long long time.
Mind you, reverse it to last month, and I would not have said a peep in this thread.
I am a bliever in not touching what is working, I would like Memphis to sweat it out, I don't want to rush out and trade. Also, why is that we are always the ones begging for dance partners. I want another team to be courting us.
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I don't buy the "he's underutilized" talk. Especially with Mayo gone now, he probably has more responsibility than anyone on their team.
I just want to check on nba.com's advanced statistics. He has the highest usage rate of anyone on his team, 25.6%. But also not as high as true franchise players like Kobe, Durant, LeBron, or even Paul Pierce(who I hate).
Oh, and I checked Randolph (22.3%) and Gasol (18.1%). Randolph's is about the same as a guy like Bosh(23%) or Howard(22.7%), or Pau Gasol last year. Kobe's usg btw is 32.5%, and LeBron's is 29.9%. So really Gay could be used more if he deserved it, and no one is significantly hindering his usage in terms of players.
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Regardless, you can't label someone as an "addition-by-subtraction" player. It's entirely situation-specific. I think Bargnani is a worthless sack of shyte, but even I admit that he could find a decent home somewhere in the league.
Don't forget that we have been a Playoff team for 3 years before this, and did not make the playoffs. (setting the bar high has not worked out well for our management)
Success tastest good, even out of a garbage can.
We have built too many teams on paper, its time to actually be looking on the team on the court. That is what I am doing now. I honestly am done with paper, the fantasies just did not do it for me. The curent squad has put a grin on my face from ear to ear. None of Bryan's teams have given me as much enjoyment as this current squad. (but I like tough nose basketball, dispise the eurolegue jump shooting raptors)
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As I've and others have mentioned, ED/JC/2nd round pick is not going to land Gay.
Others have said, DD/ED/JC/2nd rd pick is not worth it for Gay.
Then other others have talked about Millsap.
Here is a thought: Raps have been rumoured to have interest in Ilyasova. What if DD/ED/JC/2nd round pick returned Gay and Ilyasova?
Would you do it?
Ilyasova started year horrible, coming on of late, overall inconsistent, huge season last year in the always suspicious contract year.
On the link you need to use your imagination because Ilyasova can't be included for another 5 days hence all those Bucks heading to Toronto but their salary equals just a few thousand over $7.9M. Also Trade Machine does not allow 5 teams. Also Minnesota can take on Gasol and a player who makes less than $854k sending out Pek/Williams/Ridnour/Lee. Finally, Gasol plus player making less than $854k going to MIN and Calderon/Bargnani going to Lakers .... so with that said:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=asgwczv (and throw some picks around: Memphis 1st back to them from MIN? Raps 2nd rd to Lakers?)
Minnesota: Gasol, Jamison
Bucks: DeRozan, Wroten, Lee
Grizz: Dunleavy, Williams, Ridnour
Lakers: Calderon, Bargnani
Raptors: Gay, Pekovic, Ilyasova
DeRozan, Calderon, Davis, 2nd rd
Gay, Ilyasova, Pekovic
Would you?
In fact, this is partly why I'm generally hesitant to get Gay, even in some miraculous one-sided deal. Nothing about him leads me to believe he's anything like that. In fact, Memphis has that type of character and they're considering getting rid of him. That should be a bit of a warning sign to people who like the culture Toronto has been building, and assume he'd buy in when he should be buying in in Memphis. If he really does believe he deserves more touches, then he's just a lazy, selfish player, because no one on our team, including the much-hated Bargnani, would complain or worry about touches if Toronto was 23-10.
I'm not sure where the selfish labels, touch complaints, laziness, poor defense, etc. etc. are coming from. Only place I've ever read such things are on Memphis blogs by posters.
Personally i hope it doesnt happen (not for DD or ED). I would do it in a second for BARGS, KLEIZA, Calderon, AA, even AMIR. Lets roll with the players we drafted and continue the rebuild. Rudy misses games due to injury and we're screwed once again.....Dont be fooled PEOPLE - On paper - this does nothing to address our current issues. A 40% shooting SF doesnt solve our problems PEOPLE....
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