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Middle school principals share plans for the year
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 4:15 pm
The last comment about Ken Dauber was kind of uncalled for, especially since in he lost by what? Less than 2% of total votes cast? With three candidates for four spots, and two of them incumbents, you would expect the two newcomers to more or less split the their vote.
But that's not what happened, the election was actually pretty close for all candidates, indicating that across the city, people favored each combination of three candidates fairly similarly. Given the typical incumbent advantage, and the fact that one of the newcomers was the most likely not to be elected the way these things go -- and, frankly, an undeserved smear campaign against Ken Dauber, I'd say that was a pretty close election that showed a lot of support for him, and didn't all underscore any agenda as the article seems to imply.
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Nov 16, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Those I feel for are the students who started using it last year and loved it and are now in a school where it is not used. It is a useful tool and the students were able to learn it very quickly. It is not a good idea for the students to do something one year and then discover it is not available next year.
a resident of Community Center
on Nov 16, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Good luck with your plans...JLS is probably the worst of the three middle schools in the district. Some parents take their kids out of the district during middle school years and put them in private schools during that time. The middle schools here aren' too hoy, but JLS downright sucks.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Nov 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Agree that the last sentence was lame and immature. The best candidates do not always win in elections. There were some on the BoE who did not serve our district well.
While I am not a complete supporter of WCDB, I agree that PAUSD should not be run through site-based decisions. Some principals run better schools than others and it's not fair to the students. Even Paly and Gunn have different daily schedules.
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a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 16, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Seems fine to me. Finally the Weekly points out the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and you cry "that's not fair".
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm
What are you talking about? Schoology? JLS? Board elections? you make no sense.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 16, 2012 at 6:51 pm
The last statement is actually factual. Ken Dauber supporters need to get used to the idea that he was not elected, i.e. most voters voted for the other three candidates.
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a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 16, 2012 at 7:22 pm
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 8:07 pm
[Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] I suspect that many of the things that Mr. Dauber and his people have advocated for over the past couple of years will come to pass as some members of the board have already recognized the wisdom in many of the suggestions. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] I certainly hope that Mr. Dauber and WCDBPA will continue to advocate for students in the district because I think the district (no matter how good we think it is now) can always use improvement and it is very clear that we don't have all the answers. Thanks to all community members for bringing any good ideas forward in the interest of improving the lives of our students!
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 17, 2012 at 7:14 am
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a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 17, 2012 at 8:20 am
"All three principals Tuesday said they monitor and discuss specific students earning Ds and Fs or those scoring "basic" or "below basic" on the California Standards (STAR) Test."
Why does scoring 'Basic' require the principal to monitor and discuss these students?
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 17, 2012 at 9:03 am
Here's a snippet from the California Department of Education website that might help answer your question:
"California uses five performance levels to report student achievement on the CSTs:
Advanced: This category represents a superior performance. Students demonstrate a comprehensive and complex understanding of the knowledge and skills measured by this assessment, at this grade, in this content area.
Proficient: This category represents a solid performance. Students demonstrate a competent and adequate understanding of the knowledge and skills measured by this assessment, at this grade, in this content area.
Basic: This category represents a limited performance. Students demonstrate a partial and rudimentary understanding of the knowledge and skills measured by this assessment, at this grade, in this content area.
Far Below / Below Basic: This category represents a serious lack of performance. Students demonstrate little or a flawed understanding of the knowledge and skills measured by this assessment, at this grade, in this content area."
a resident of College Terrace
on Nov 17, 2012 at 9:18 am
It makes PAUSD look bad that there is no consistency from school to school. I think that may have been what horselady was alluding to. How can you call it Palo Alto Unified when there is no unity between school regarding hours, schedules, policies, or quality of teaching?
When we moved here, we chose our home based upon the schools in this part of town, because there are other parts of town that has schools that were not as good, or we're known to have odd policies.
I have no problem with schoology, but JLS has other problems that made me decide not to have my child go there.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2012 at 1:50 am
Can you please enumerate what problems at JLS?
I AM having problems with Schoology. School's been in session, what? Three months now? We just had a teacher conference, and they gave us a printout with assignments on it, half of which hadn't even been turned in. They said, Oh, you should have seen that on Schoology.
Our Schoology account is basically a bunch of almost blank pages, NONE of that information is available anywhere. We've sent emails in that regard and gotten no replies about it.
I have a lot of problems with that, including that as a new parent, if it weren't for being given that printout in the teacher conference, we wouldn't even know that much. No one tells the parents what to expect.
Supposedly there was some feedback forum which got moved -- clean off of anyplace on our account to access it. So, so far for us, Schoology gets an F-, because it's worse than a waste of time, there's nothing there on our account.
a resident of Palo Verde School
on Nov 18, 2012 at 9:54 am
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a resident of JLS Middle School
on Nov 18, 2012 at 10:36 am
I am a JLS parent. Schoology works very well for us, it shows upcoming homework, upcoming projects, shows links that are related to projects. I think it is a great communication tool between teachers and students. Having one place to see all assignments, and all announcements is very effective.
For grades, you need to look at Infinite Campus. Schoology does not show grades.
One problem, though. Some teachers do not post grades to Infinite Campus in a timely manner (within 2-3 weeks of an exam, or a project), and some teachers do not show/return the graded test papers to students. I find this very strange, since the purpose of an exam should be to evaluate the knowledge on the subject. How can kids know what they still need to study if they do not know what they've missed?
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Nov 18, 2012 at 10:38 am
@parent. It's not schoology that's broken it's that the teachers are not using it correctly or you haven't got the correct login from them. Are you at jls? Go to the office and find out what is going on with your child's account before dumping on the product. And also read your newsletter because it informs you about schoology and you should have known before now that you had only blank pages.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Nov 18, 2012 at 11:16 am
Why would a parent have to use Schoology? I have two kids who went through Jordan and I have never looked at it. How are your children going to learn to be good students if they have parents holding their hands? Middle school (when grades don't matter for college) is the time students need to learn study skills. Many of the Jordan students never use Schoology, but I am glad we have it for those who do, as my children used it.
Re teachers using Infinite Campus for grades, some don't use it due to helicopter parents hammering their students about their grades. Those who don't use it are not lazy; they are concerned about student stress.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2012 at 12:11 pm
@A poor workman,
(Or should I say, poor attitude towards others?)
Oh brother, because it worked properly in your case, you dump all over me and make wrong assumptions? I have been to the office. I have complained by email to the teachers and the administration. I do read every newsletter I get.
I got the login through the Infinite Campus portal, and correctly set up the account. It's just not providing any useful information. Maybe you're right, the teachers aren't setting it up right, because I just got an email from another parent that they can't see anything on Schoology, either. But I have contacted the teachers without a response.
So, as a tool provided by the school, it still gets an F-, as do you for civility.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2012 at 1:00 pm
P.S. A tool is just a tool -- if it is so hard to use that the teachers and parents have to put so much work into it that it's an end in itself, it's not worth using. I'm not saying that's what's happening, I'm just saying, I'm looking for improvement, and will reassess my opinion if things improve, but not if it takes so much work it interfere's with the teachers' instruction time or is overly burdensome at home. For those who didn't have problems, good for you. We are having a different experience with it. We have smart, engaged, hardworking teachers in the classroom, the tool should support them, not make their lives harder. (So, I grade the tool by its ease of use by the teachers, too.)
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Nov 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm
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a resident of College Terrace
on Nov 18, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Well whatever those "hardworking engaged" teachers are engaged in it evidently isn't answering your emails since your child didn't do half his assignments but no one responded to your repeated emails about it. I think it is just terrific that you are so supportive of staff in spite of the fact that they ignored you and your child for weeks. You are right there is no way those engaged hardworking teachers like yourself should be forced to use that schoology nonsense. Clearly money down the drain at least where your classroom is concerned.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 12:29 am
I am a parent, not a teacher, if you are insinuating that the only way a parent would be supportive and call the teachers hardworking is if they were one, you are wrong. Why all the bile, what's your beef? Your incivility is just as bad as "workman's".
My child did all of the assignments, just didn't turn them in, which is the educational challenge it would have been nice to know about earlier. Teachers do answer my emails -- and I think go above and beyond the call in the classroom -- just not over schoology problems. Given how poorly the tool seems to be working for the parents I've spoken with so far, I'm not ready to blame the teachers.
What are we spending on Schoology, does anyone know? It doesn't seem to be working for any of the other parents I know. Although your message is mostly rude and wrong, you are right that if money is being spent on this, it's not currently money well spent unless they work out the problems.
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 19, 2012 at 7:49 am
The District has a site license for Schoology which means that if a school or teacher is not participating, the district is not maximizing value from the tool. As students transition from middle school to highschool, they will find that Mr. Winston has set the goal for Paly to fully implement Schoology this year, whereas Gunn does not have a similar schedule. At Gunn, teachers use a variety of tools which do not communicate with each other to post assignments including personal websites, Google calendar etc. At a recent meeting on counseling services at Gunn parents brought this up as a source of stress for their children. One mother said her freshman had to look five places to find all of his assignments. Site based decision making and a lack of clear policy direction by the Board allows situations like this to continue. As a taxpayer,a parent and a software developer I would like to see better oversight of District resources by the Board. If District money is being spent on a software license then the schools need to be accountable to the Board for their implementation plan.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Nov 19, 2012 at 8:05 am
To the JLS parent who is unable to find the right information on Schoology, I think it might be worth trying to find the information through your child's password into the site.
I had similar problems last year in JLS and discovered that my child had all the information on the site but was not accessing it regularly. In the end, we both used the same site to monitor schoolwork and it worked perfectly. This child is now a freshman in Paly and is showing teachers and fellow students alike how to use the site!
In this tech age, it is often the kids who get a better handle on the technology before the adults. The teachers are able to monitor this site to prevent anything that goes against the rules, but it is being used most successfully by the students themselves.
a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 19, 2012 at 9:06 am
@soccer mom, since you are in the software industry, you probably know that a district wide license probably cost less than picking and choosing some number of schools / classes to use and buying licenses a la carte. So I doubt the school is squandering much money on un-used Schoology licenses that it could have otherwise done without.
My high school kid, like most, has ~6 classes, and keeping track of where to check for handouts, homework etc has not been an issue (that bookmark thing comes in handy). I'm sure Schoology will bring new features or coordination, but for us, there is no problem to solve right now.
Of course it would be easier if our large, diverse teachers and schools all adopted technology at the same time, the same way, consistently. But since doctors, lawyers, etc., don't seem to work that way, I don't expect much different from teachers, and I don't sweat it much.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 10:15 am
Thank you Paly Parent,
That seem s to be the word through the grapevine I'm getting, that the kids' accounts are functioning and the parent accounts are useless, to just use your kids account.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Nov 19, 2012 at 10:47 am
Schoology is in full swing at Paly. Last year, they were in transition: some teachers used In-Class and others used Schoology. From what I hear, In-Class was not user-friendly, thus many teachers did not use it.
Maybe it's not an accident that Schoology is not working for middle school parents. . . teach your children to be more self-sufficient.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:05 am
Didn't most of the adults commenting here get through school just fine without using Schoology or other such nonsense? Software such as this is a huge monetary cost to the district. Not to mention the cumulative waste of time by the parents, students and teachers. Get rid of computers in our education system. They are stunting us.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:26 am
1. What would you think if your cardiologist said this:
Didn't most of _my patients_ commenting here get through _life_ just fine without using _ECGs, CT Scans_ or other such nonsense? Software such as this is a huge monetary cost to the _health care system_. Not to mention the cumulative waste of time by the _doctors, nurses and insurance companies_. Get rid of _technological innovation_ in our _health-care_ system. They are stunting us.
2. You're using a computer to discuss this in an online forum. Why aren't you pulling out a pen and paper to get your opinion in newsprint?
2. Schoology is not very expensive. Savings in paper (class handouts) alone make up for much of the cost. There are other similar systems (SchoolLoop) which are free. And these systems save time since people don't have to go emailing one another to clarify questions.
3. It's very helpful for students involved in multiple activities (sports, community service) to be able to look out 2-3 days ahead and do their homework a day in advance when they know they're going to be very busy. We all do this at work because we know our meetings and deliverables. Schoology provides similar information to students. It's very similar to an online calendar.
4. If you don't like Schoology, feel free to not use it. But I have yet to hear 1 complaint about it from any parent in a school that has adopted it. And believe me, I've asked.
Thank you.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 3:30 pm
You need to account for all the costs before saying Schoology is inexpensive. There is time spent procuring it, time spent discussing it, time spent learning to use it. A gigantic waste of time when the alternative worked just fine. And, no, you do not need to "go emailing one another to clarify questions". There are a lot of people out there peddling solutions to problems that do not exist.
a resident of Green Acres
on Nov 19, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Rajiv: Thanks for taking the time to break this down. I don't know why someone wouldn't want to use this given that the district has already paid for it, right? Just seems like some people must be stubborn about trying new things! You can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em drink! Yes, indeed, Name can feel free to not use it. I don't understand what the big resistance thing is; but, hey, if you feel resistance that needs to be expressed, go for it.!! I think it is only a matter of time before everyone is onboard for Schoology and, in fact, will say "why didn't we get on board with this sooner.......it's great!"
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 4:59 pm
You said, "But I have yet to hear 1 complaint about it from any parent in a school that has adopted it. And believe me, I've asked."
Read a little ways up for my complaint. There you have 1 complaint. I emailed the other parents in the classroom recently, and I didn't ask for other people who were having problems to write, I asked if people were getting use out of it to please tell me what I was doing wrong.
I got back about ten emails from parents. all saying that they weren't/couldn't use schoology either because it didn't work. Some were having more problems with it than we are. Two suggested we use the kids' account. For not a single one of them is Schoology working as it should.
I'd like to use it. It's just not working. The bigger problem I see with it is the assumption that if parents aren't in the office complaining, it must be working fine. People have busy lives and work around it. Whoever is implementing it needs to put more work into resolving the bugs.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Nov 19, 2012 at 7:51 pm
@Me too
"Of course it would be easier if our large, diverse teachers and schools all adopted technology at the same time, the same way, consistently. But since doctors, lawyers, etc., don't seem to work that way, I don't expect much different from teachers, and I don't sweat it much."
It's hard to know where to start with this. We don't have "large, diverse teachers and schools" who are "adopting technology" at different rates. We have a district led by a school board and very well paid district staff who have decided that it is easier to praise principals for inaction than to make sure that students and parents at all schools get the benefits of the technology we all paid for.
What we would think of a hospital that let its nurses decide whether to use software for keeping track of patients, or a law firm that let its lawyers pick how to record hours?
Laziness and avoidance isn't a management strategy. It's just laziness and avoidance.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 19, 2012 at 9:27 pm
[Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] As Tom stated the power of site-based adoptions ensures buy-in by all parties and identifies what works so that all sites don't have to go through the same learning exercise.
Sit back, relax and let the district deal with it.
a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 19, 2012 at 10:08 pm
@Me Three - well, not sure where to go with your post either. ;-)
We have 13 elementary schools, 3 middle school, 2 high schools, and several hundred teachers, the vast majority of whom started teaching well before online parent/student communication systems were in vogue, and have taught successfully without them for many years and decades. Expecting that kind of organization to all start using the same piece of software, all at once, in production mode, in place of whatever other systems or resources they previously used successful -- it's kind of an aggressive expectation. Kind of like telling all the doctors in all area hospitals to start using the same electronic medical record software (when many have used none at all before) or all lawyers across 20 offices to switch to the same document management system, and please start right away, no exceptions or delays please.
Not sure what kind of organizations you have worked in, but my experience is that it is unlikely to be successful that way. And, given that our district has a policy of site-based decision making, even less likely to be successful here.
Frankly, I think they are rushing things a bit, and hence the growing pains. It seems sensible to let early adopter sites go ahead and work out the kinks, train the trainers, build in-house knowledge, etc. Presumably those sites would perceive the benefits and be willing to take the pain. Others can just wait a bit and adopt later, when the path is clearer and easier (presuming the benefits are clear). That seems like the prudent approach to me - whatever its virtues, Schoology is not vital to the success of our kids.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:05 pm
@Me Too,
Schoology is a third party program, it's not an alpha or beta version, either.
The problem isn't resistance to using it, the problem is that it's not working. And unlike medical records, it's not vital as you say, so people either don't use it or work around it like those who ask for their kids' accounts.
I just got an email from the principal, and let her know other parents were also having problems, but my kid also gave me the password. I'm guessing that's how I'll be using schoology from now on.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Nov 20, 2012 at 8:07 am
@Me Too
As a parent of a Terman seventh-grader and a Gunn sophomore, I'm very familiar with "site-based decision making". My experience is that if you substitute "weak leadership" whenever you see "site-based decision making" you get a sentence that reads just as well and is more accurate. PAUSD has already "adopted" Schoology, I'm paying for it in my taxes, but because Dana Tom and the rest of the gang don't want to actually lead the organization, my kids and I get to keep using binder reminders, sticky notes, four different teacher websites, etc. until someone else decides to "adopt" or "steal" Schoology. How about an implementation plan at the district? When you buy groceries at the store, do you bring the bags into the house and unpack them, or do you leave them in the car and hope they wander in by themselves?
Here's another example of "waiting for adoption": TA at Gunn. Wasn't that terrific, how Paly was the early adopter twenty years ago and then Gunn saw the benefits after a few years, and then switched over? So now my sophomore is seeing a TA once a month, and getting a curriculum about what classes to take, getting ready for college, etc.! But that's not what actually happened. Gunn never bothered to see the benefits of TA, and no one at the district ever cared. My sophomore hasn't seen a counselor yet (not this year, ever). If Mr. Tom has a kid at Paly (I don't know, I just know he lives on the north side), his kid gets the benefits of TA even though we pay the same taxes. So maybe that's why he's praising "site-based autonomy" and I'm seeing "weak leadership" instead.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 20, 2012 at 8:52 am
This isn't about TA and, in any case, there isn't any data that shows that Counselling at Paly is any better than at Gunn. Neither are addressing the most serious issues the students are facing.
My experience of your "strong leadership" approach to district direction is that it works great when you have someone like Steve Jobs making the decisions. Not so well when it's someone like Bernie Madoff. Steve Jobs was one of a kind and we don't need a bunch of Bernie Madoff's trying to tell everyone in the district what to do.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:12 am
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Not sure which is better: site-based decisions vs. wacko BoE. At least with site-based, a student has the option to change schools. While I'm guessing most students don't visit their TAs (not all are approachable, and ours is, but my child still does not contact him), at least they do learn information in Advisory class each month.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 11:17 am
@get real
You wouldnt get anyone like Steve Jbs making decisions in our strict because this administration so highly prizes appearing nicey nice and avoiding working through conflict, and tend to circle the wagons against personality no matter how good the ideas, probemsolving or data.
(misspelled on my ipad)
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Nov 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm
There is lots of evidence that counseling at Paly is better than at Gunn. And who is Bernie Madoff in this picture? That seems uncivil to me. Let's be respectful please.
a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 pm
@Me Three - [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] I'm sure your middle and high school kids can create bookmarks for you and them to check the teacher web sites, plus one to wherever the grades are kept. They are in a nice folder on our family room desktop.
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Yes, civility is something that is sorely lacking these days in this forum and in our town.
I agree with Wow on this. Let's move on to figuring out what is best for our children and implementing it. I think at this point there is just so much resistance in the district to change that we really need to figure out a new way forward. It seems like every thread that comes up related to the district and our kids devolves into negativity. Time to move on to the positive!!! At the same time we could be modeling better behavior for our kids as well (not that many kids read these posts).
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Nov 20, 2012 at 9:53 pm
@Me Too, I stand by what I said. When the school board and Mr. Skelly don't do the work to make sure that my kids get things like Schoology and counseling that my fellow parents and I have already paid for, that's not courage, that's weak leadership and laziness. I am not trying to be mean, but let's not tell ourselves stories either.
Phil Winston is doing it at Paly, and I am sure he got some resistance not from parents but from teachers. He is doing it regardless because it benefits students. That is what leadership looks like. This isn't worth arguing over as Time to Change points out, this district isn't going to change. It is just annoying to see Dana Tom praising inaction as if it were wisdom. So yes we will all keep figuring out how to work around it, thanks for the advice.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 21, 2012 at 9:14 am
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I have a question concerning the firewall pop up messages and computers on a shared network.
Okay I have been dealing with a problematic issue with someone purposely hacking or eloquently put it "remoting" into my computer or like devices in the past and I am aware of who it was at the time I had a different firewall and it didn't really do as much justice as ZoneAlarm has and is (still using it). Since I have installed Zone Alarm Extreme Security and before I was using the regular free version which worked just as well; now mind you there are 4 computers using the same network in my household the particular person that I am having an issue with (who once before had got on my computer before) IP address keeps popping up as inbound the network ip address that the router assigned to their computer and this has been occurring for about 3 months now everyday whenever this "person" is on their computer connected to the internet and I am online I get this message saying that that 192.168.0.4 (for example) Net-BIOS has been blocked.
So I checked my firewall log and of course I see the same IP (Inbound) trying to use the Net-BIOS ports 137,138 etc along with some other higher ports trying to connect to my network assigned IP address. This individual claims they have not been trying to get on my computer or trying to remote in. I had called up the internet provider and spoke with a Technician and they said basically that "someone" has been trying to "ping" your computer but are getting blocked out while your online and according to GRC Shields Up! All my ports are "Stealth" which I am happy about and I am also happy that ZoneAlarm Firewall is legitimately doing what it is suppose to do.
My question is to anyone who could answer this for me. That particular person's computer and (only their computer) IP keeps showing up on my computer and mind you (my computer is not the host for the router or modem), is indicating they are trying to get on by remote or hacking of any kind but is being blocked out is what those messages mean or is it just a coincidence and that person's computer somehow just keeps interfering with their WiFi to the same router (if that makes sense) and they are telling the truth and say they have no idea why their IP keeps showing up? Out of 4 computers total!


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Spend, Save or Cut Back...
Original post made by Claudette McDermott, Del Prado, on Feb 24, 2009
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 24, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Now is a good time to buy big ticket items because you can negotiate. However, you also don't want to get stuck with a payment if you lose your job.... I would like to know more about how this "bailout" is going to help homeowners who are making their payments. If some of us responsible homeowners had some assurance that if we spend money, we won't lose our homes in a few months.
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 24, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Well, the "bailout," not really sure how that's going to actually happen. I saw on TV that there were stipulations on it. Homes Under $400,000... where in California can you find a house under $400,000 not in the Bay Area that's for sure. So it looks like No "bailouts here, if that's the case. I guess as a homeowner, like myself, you have to feel secure in your job choice and your position in your company as well as the stability of the company itself. Do your homework on your company. If you don't feel it's secure, start putting together a resume as you can't expect the state or anyone else to keep your job secure for you or keep you working. It's your own responsibility. We can't wait and hope to be rescued, you need to take action. If you are fairly secure spend conservatively. If you are fortunate give to Fundraisers that are in your community or that are close to your heart. Shop locally to keep your community alive. Help yourself by making smart decisions and help your neighbors even if it's just to check on them to say hi. Be positive so that attitude will expand, because if you keep negative that also expands and that's not good, for anyone. Things will change, it's a matter of time. I'd say with in a year from now.
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Feb 25, 2009 at 10:47 am
This economy should be providing a correction in how we personally view our lifestyles that are full of STUFF.
What happened to using something up to it's fullest before replacement? I'm not that old, but I was taught and live the way my parents and grandparents lived.
We keep our furniture, our clothes, our cars until they no longer function. We don't trade them in or throw them out just because they aren't all new and shiny. We don't replace them because there's something bigger and better out there.
Buy what you need and save the rest for a rainy day, because it's going to rain!
We feel that we deserve an expensive vacation every year. We define vacation as time off from work, being with family, exploring new things. Disney and Carnival aren't the only game in town.
Hallmark doesn't tell us when to spend money. We show the important people in our lives how much we appreciate them with time and words, not one more thing to fill up their homes.
What happened to dinner out was only for special occasions? I can't believe people are complaining about cutting out dinners out and are being forced into preparing meals at home. Even if you don't want to do the preparation, there are great take and bake options from the local markets that are at least 50% of a dinner out. And today's people are calling this a sacrifice?
I was telling my kids how our grocery store put out all the apples, different shapes and colors, and you would eat a wrinkly one if you kept it too long at home. Potatoes grew eyes in the basement over the winter because they were taken from the garden months ago. Leftovers were used. Food was only thrown out if it was going to make you sick, not simply because it wasn't appealing any more.
And there needs to be a correction on what businesses are out there taking up space and using up resources. There are some products and services that don't need to be out there in the market or the market is flooded with these types of businesses. What resources are being used to make & transport that do-dah that no one really needs? What chemicals are being dumped?
a resident of Valley Trails
on Feb 25, 2009 at 11:14 am
Still at it?
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 25, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Hey there Doo Doo, What up? Can you express yourself with a little more than giving yourself the title Doo Doo and saying "Still at it." What do you mean by these very short responses? We want to hear what you have to say too.
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Feb 25, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Hey "Corrections of Pleasanton Valley"...nicely stated! I have to confess I was not raised in the 4R's (reuse,recycle,reduce,reinvent) but I look at our mass consumption of "THINGS, STUFF" etc and sometimes I want to scream - sometimes this screaming is directed at myself because I am guilty of "buying" when borrowing would have been just as good. But, I really get steamed when the person in front of me at the store takes a PAPER/PLASTIC bag for the ONE item they bought!! I have cloth bags that I collected from Good Will, industry conferences, etc that I use. People just need to make it a habit to bring their own bags (easy as wearing a seatbelt - which most of us managed to make a habit).
The planet cannot continue to support this consumerism!
So my random thoughts are:
1) decide what really makes you truly happy in life
2) focus the majority of energy on those few entities of happiness
3) do one small act each day to help the planet - none of us are perfect so don't sweat it.
4) do one small act each day to help a stranger - like the movie "Pay It Forward"
Good luck in this journey called life-
a resident of Valley Trails
on Feb 26, 2009 at 11:10 am
After I made my comment I was filled in on who you are, and what kind of person you are by my friends. I apologize, and want NO TROUBLE WITH YOU Claudette. Please just leave me alone.
Although, can I ask that you please don't make fun of my name anymore? Thanks
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 26, 2009 at 11:16 am
My intension was not to make fun of your name or response..... I truly wanted to know what you meant, by restating what you stated. I'm not picking on you and am sorry that you took it that way. Mahalo


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Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by batz, Oct 7, 2012.
You tell 'em Sexi!
Murray is a one slam loser and will never win another slam never mind no.1
Until he never wins another, I can safely proclaim to the world, with my good friend Hindsight, these things and think I look clever.
Is this your impersonation of a Murray-obsessed-Clarky ?
What you mean an ultra negative fan? Or ultra sarcastic.
I thought the two are complementary traits in a fanatic.
Good point.
Sexi bromancing Andy !
p.s. Roger meant "Andy can be my number one (now that Rafa is injured)"
Fed was drunk.
(I think Murray will be #1 by USO next year.)
Fed already said that "Murray was a too good player to never win a slam" (on two occasions), and it turned out he was right.
Wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be right on this matter too.
I can be #1 too.
But I won't.
Thing is mate, you haven't won a slam or made it to number 2 in the world - so we're not really comparing like with like, are we.
I think Fed would love for Andy to take over a more dominant role on the tour. I feel pretty sure he doesn't want to see Djoker and Rafa trade slams around all by themselves.
I think he is just maintaining his godly image. 'RF' is cool with everyone and sells sells sells.
Arrogant Federer arrogantly humbly builds up Murray's chances so he can be arrogant if humble Murray Bean "Excuse me I'm looking for my watch" Andy humbly fails.
Because he is humble. I mean arrogant. I mean hu- *static*
I am Delpo.
I think you will have to try a bit harder than that to convince us. Start by posting pics of your USO trophy.
You can't keep the trophy :/
Arrogant Fed being Arrogant. 8)
He's Del Potro. He really is.
*whispers the magic word into Hood Man's ear and sets him free*
nothing new here, good old foxy Noserer at his best. sure, Andy could be #1, but he does need to be more consistent, improve on clay etc. he'll probably reach it at some point in his career, me thinks, especially with injured Nadal and Fed retiring. will he or not remains to be seen.
I'm sure the wind will give Murray a lift to the #1 ranking eventually.
haha, I like it - good one
You avatar is #1
Number 88 to be exact .
SMC has been quite gracious about Murray over the past couple of years. He even said one year that he would love Murray to win Wimbledon if he himself cannot.
That said Murray clearly was geared up for slam success and #1 ranking at some point of time. Only haters refused to recognize that.
Of course Fed would love for Andy to start racking up the slams, he's no threat to his 17.
Murray will be No. 1 in the next two to three years..
It would be more interesting if he were to ever become YE #1.
Fed wants Murray to be his b itch.
Murray can definitely IMO
I don't think it will take Murray 2-3 years to get #1. I believe he'll do it in 2013 by winning Wimbledon.
What's Fed gonna say? No he won't and can't do it? He has to have some manners.
No, he's not worried about Nole or anyone overtaking him. He was being polite to the BBC.
That's right. What can he say about the current USO and Olympic champion and Wimbledon finalist and double Shanghai Masters champion?
Someone with terrible consistency like that has got no hope of ever being number one.
What was Federer thinking about when there are so many other better candidates out there?
Federer could say his own name now could he :twisted:
And rightly so.
How can you be a one slam 'loser'?
I mean beyond the fact you're a complete troll who attested 10000% that Murray would never win a slam, period, your statement above is not only absurd but a complete contradiction.
You do seem very obsessed with hating a tennis player.
Danny - that's the sound of Fedex's sarcasm going right over your head.
It's OK Danny, Fedex is part of the vicious Murray trio
No, it's the sound of Murray's baseline pass
You're right though, I did misread his post - missed the 'will never win one slam' part.
So, pray, do tell - is he pro or anti Murray?
First and foremost I think he's a tennis fan. He's also a big Murray fan - but not a fanboy; calls it as he sees it.
It certainly wouldn't be the sound of his lob passing overhead, even Novak can put that thing away!
If Murray can win tomorrow, I think there's a real chance he could get #1 next year. He looks confident and the swagger from '09 is back, but with results now to back it up.
Danny please read before you write.
Batz that made me laugh.
It's possible, but only without Nadal. It seems that the rise of Murray happens whenever Nadal's ranking drops. (Early 2010, while Nadal dropped to #4, Murray rose to #2 behind federer, where Nadal would then become the first male player to win slams on clay, grass and hard-court all in a calendar year.)
nice words by the great man.
Murray never No.1
Roger is sweet dork. lol
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The summer between first year and second year of medical school is sometimes referred to as the "last summer" since it is the last time students can travel or take off before they start the journey towards USMLE Step 1 and then their third year clerkships. With the angst building, first year medical students are actively deciding in the dead of winter what they will do over the summer. One popular decision is to do research – this is not uncommon since residency programs are increasingly competitive and look for students who have a commitment to scholarly work. However, there are a plethora of other things students could do as well. As tonight is our "Intro to our Summer Research Program" for Pritzker medical students, I thought I would share some of the most common questions I get about the "Last Summer":
- Should I do research in a competitive field? The answer here is to do substantive research that you are interested in with a "CAPE" mentor (Capable, Available, Project interests you, Easy to get along with). As my premed advisor once told me, "Mickey Mouse" research is not going to look good to anyone (no offense Mickey). The key is to find something you are passionate about – after all you have to tell this story on your interview trail of why you choose to do this and the answer "because I wanted to go into ortho" is not really that captivating to anyone (even to an orthopedic surgeon). Instead, if you do something you are passionate about, like community health work, you can always tie it back to your chosen field. Most residency program directors don't expect you arrived in medical school with laser like focus towards their field anyway and expect to hear some type of journey or a-ha moment that drew you to their field. Because competitive specialties are often reimbursed for clinical work and tend to be smaller departments, they depth of research opportunities may be more limited. But, don't forget that neuroscience research is relevant to neurosurgery – and oncology research on head and neck cancer is still relevant for ENT and so forth. The best research is often interdisciplinary and crosses department boundaries so you should not be afraid to either. It's also important to remember that as a first year student, it's hard to even know if you will be competitive for radiation oncology or associated competitive specialties. You will need killer board scores, and great clinical grades. So, while you may think securing the research with the Dept Chair will give you an extra 'edge', nothing and no one can make up for a poor performance on high stakes exams or clinical rotations. So, don't forget to study!
- I want to go to country X? How can I get a global health rotation there? Well, certainly the urge to travel is strong in anyone (including me). But, you need to separate your travel bug from a genuine interest in global health. Most global health rotations are not a vacation – and may not be what you think of as "tourist" destination (despite the short-lived popularity of Off the Map). Maybe your stars are aligned and your school or a nearby affiliate you know has a program near your hot spot of interest. Usually, however, it is not that easy and you should consider how strong your affinity is for a specific country or location versus your interest in getting the best global health experience possible. Global health programs that fund medical students are not easy to come by. So, if you are genuinely interested in global health, it is always better to go with an established program and mentor to get the most substantive experience even if it's not in the exact country you are interested in. The other thing to remember is while this may be your last summer for a while; it is not your last vacation! You will have time to plan a vacation to your designated hot spot if you can't work it in this summer.
- Do I have to do anything? The answer here is easy – no, you don't have to do anything per se with your 'time off'. Many students find themselves on the hamster wheel of endless extracurricular activities. The real question is what is your goal? If it is to go home and see family and friends, there is nothing wrong with that! The key is to ensure that you are doing something with your time off that will make you feel ready to face the second year of medical school. It is easy to forget that there is a lot of time to participate in extracurricular activities at various other points in your medical school career. The key is that if you will regret not spending time with your friends or family this summer, then you need to make time to do that.
- What if I want to do everything because I don't want to close any doors? This is not an uncommon feeling for medical students. However, its important to remember that your summer work is not choosing a specialty! There is essentially nothing you can do over the summer that will 'close a door' – there may be some things that allow you to put your foot further into the doorway but that does not mean another door will close. The only doors you close are the ones in your mind. Most students decide on their specialty after their third year rotations and will often fine-tune their experiences in research in that area in the fourth year. Another thing to consider is to do research in a cross-cutting area like ethics that could apply to everything. Sometimes the angst you may be feeling is about making a choice that is wrong for you. However, the truth is that as long as you are genuinely interested in the opportunity, you cannot make a wrong choice since it will be an easy story to tell no matter what you do. Since everyone is different, it is always good to get individualized advice from a faculty advisor at your school who can comment on your specific career and research goals.
Finally, no matter what you do with your last summer, don't forget to make sure you enjoy it!
Vineet Arora MD


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How would the disciples vote?
I mentioned last week in our chapel service at World Vision's U.S. headquarters about a recent Christianity Today article I read that I can't seem to get off my mind.
In the article, a recent survey (pdf) by the Pew Research Center showed that American evangelicals were more in favor of cutting federal spending to "aid the world's poor" than any other area. Second and third to cutting foreign aid were "government assistance for the unemployed" and "environmental protection."
As World Vision urges Congress right now to reconsider its possible budget cut that will greatly affect foreign disaster assistance by more than two-thirds, I wonder how Christians in Jesus' day would poll in a survey of this same sort.
From Polling Evangelicals: Cut Aid to World's Poor, Unemployed on Christianity Today:
The top choices among evangelicals for the chopping block are economic assistance to needy people around the world (56 percent), government assistance for the unemployed (40 percent), and environmental protection (38 percent).
In each of these categories, evangelicals were more supportive of decreasing spending than are other Americans. In fact, evangelicals were more supportive of funding cuts in every area except military defense, terrorism defense, aid to veterans, and energy.
Cutting foreign aid and support for the unemployed while favoring increases in defense and police are not priorities of all evangelicals.
Robert Zachritz, government relations director for World Vision in the U.S., said in a statement that U.S. programs help save lives worldwide.He said 8 million children die each year — lives that could be saved with low-cost aid programs to provide malaria bed nets or child immunizations.
"World Vision recognizes the need to make tough decisions addressing the present fiscal crisis, including budget cuts, but these should not fall disproportionately on the poorest of the poor," Zachritz said. "Congress is considering an overall budget reduction of 8.8 percent from the FY2011 presidential request, with cuts disproportionately made to the most cost-effective humanitarian programs saving children's lives."
Join World Vision's fight to preserve funding for humanitarian programs that save lives. Contact your members of Congress today.
For more from World Vision on U.S. Budget Cuts that threaten the poor:


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Vanessa Williams, executive director of the National Conference of Black Mayors is a accused of incurring in excess of $600,000 in questionable business according to a lawsuit filed in Fulton County court. Twenty-one mayors across the nation are now calling for Williams' resignation.
The Atlanta-based political organization has been under scrutiny by auditors for its growing and seemingly insurmountable debt totaling nearly $1 million dollars includes a shocking shopping list that includes everything from Saks Fifth Avenue and Tiffany's to private school tuition.
Williams however contends the debt is the result of embezzlement by a former board member. But outrage from vendors and the organization's inability to make good on payment promises caused the NCBM to elect Sacramento mayor and former NBA All-Star Kevin Johnson as its new president. The NCBM also created a task force to investigate the charges.
Johnson has since sued Williams, saying she wouldn't cooperate. Williams filed a counterclaim saying Mayor Johnson was improperly elected. And although, Fulton County Judge Christopher Brasher ordered Ms. Williams to turn over the financial records, the former director has yet to comply.
Bank records for the organization however indicate that the NCBM spent money at Tiffany's, Saks Fifth Avenue, Juicy Couture, Louis Vuitton, ticket broker StubHub, Toys 'R' Us, private Christian school tuition along with cash payments to Williams and her husband.
Jeff Dickerson, a regular on "The Georgia Gang," is the NCBM's spokesman. He says the board was stunned when it saw the expenses. "One of the questions they want answered, how did this go on? How do they stop it?" said Dickerson. "They want it stopped right away."
Dickerson says if the conference can get its financial house in order, it can begin to repay dozens of people it owes money to."It will be a chance to pay back the money or a portion of it," he said.


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The campus community will be informed about the award and nomination process via an article in the Campus Newsletter, campus-wide email, and the Torch.
Each screening committee will be composed of three full-time faculty members and two student members. The faculty-student committee selection process is not defined by the Committee to Enhance Learning and Teaching. Colleges with small faculty numbers may elect to request faculty who serve an adjunct role within that unit to serve as members of the screening committee.
Each college screening committee may choose to have the finalist(s) not selected to receive the award for teaching excellence, automatically resubmitted as a finalist during the next two successive years. After that time, however, the committee must reconsider this candidate(s) along with other new nominations.
Once selected by the college committee, each finalist should be asked to address these questions, responding with a total not to exceed 1,000 words:
Other documentation requirements shall include:
Nominating materials should be brief and to the point. Do not submit "raw" student evaluations. Make the case for this college's nominee(s) - directly and concisely.


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"Phrases and their actual meanings: "My teacher has never liked me." Expect a phone call before lunch from the teacher informing you that your child has been launching hot dogs by compressing them inside a small Thermos and then removing the lid quickly."
"My kids always perceived the bathroom as a place where you wait it out until all the groceries are unloaded from the car."
"When your mother asks, "Do you want a piece of advice?" it is a mere formality. It doesn't matter if you answer yes or no. You're going to get it anyway."
"When a child is locked in the bathroom with water running and he says he's doing nothing but the dog is barking, call 911."
"One day, we will realize how the virtual world have destroyed the quality of parenthood and childhood we had. Checking our kids thru emailing and text messaging have replaced child rearing."
"He that does not bring up his son to some honest calling and employment, brings him up to be a thief."
"I take a very practical view of raising children. I put a sign in each of their rooms: ''Checkout Time is 18 years.''"
"Graduation day is tough for adults. They go to the ceremony as parents. They come home as contemporaries. After twenty-two years of child-raising, they are unemployed."


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A Ticking 'Food Clock': How excessive holiday eating can disturb our metabolisms
If you're like me this holiday season, you've overindulged in everything from cookies to roasts, extravagant desserts and tons of hors d'oeuvres. Stuffing our faces and trying everything on the table rewards our taste buds with satisfaction-but in the spirit of excessive holiday eating, our bodies often suffer afterwards with a bellyache of feeling full. And unfortunately, all of this excessive holiday eating will disturb our "food clock".
The body's "food clock," is a collection of interacting genes and molecules known technically as the food-entrainable oscillator, which keeps the human body on a metabolic even keel. Researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, are studying how this clock works by examining the role of key molecules in our body's metabolism in an effort to help explain what happens when we overindulge at such odd times.
The UCSF team has shown that a protein called PKCγ is critical in resetting the food clock if our eating habits change. The PKCγ protein binds to another molecule called BMAL and stabilizes it, which shifts the clock in time.
An experiment showed that normal mice who were given food only during their regular sleeping hours will adjust their food clock over time and begin to wake up from their slumber. But mice lacking the PKCγ gene are not able to respond to changes in their mealtime and will sleep right through their meal.
The results have potential for understanding the molecular basis of metabolic syndromes like diabetes and obesity because a desynchronized food clock may serve as part of the pathology underlying these disorders, said Louis Ptacek, MD, the John C. Coleman Distinguished Professor of Neurology at UCSF. Ptacek also says the study may also help explain why those that eat at night are more likely to be obese.
"Understanding the molecular mechanism of how eating at the 'wrong' time of the day desynchronizes the clocks in our body can facilitate the development of better treatments for disorders associated with night-eating syndrome, shift work and jet lag," he added.
The food clock is crucial in helping our bodies make the most of our nutritional intake. It controls genes that help absorb nutrients in our digestive tract, which disperses them through the bloodstream. It also is designed to anticipate our eating patterns. For example, before we eat a meal, our bodies begin to turn on and off some of these genes, explaining why our stomachs may growl or why we have hunger pains right before food arrives.
Read more at the University of California, San Francisco.
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Lost River Range > Borah Peak > Climber's Log
Borah Peak Climber's Log
[ Sign the Climber's Log ]
|Cascade Scrambler
|Chicken out what?
Date Climbed: Aug 4, 2007
|"Chicken Out Ridge" disappointed me. We waited 45 minutes to gain the entrance to the ridge due to a large bottleneck of people who were obviously contemplating chickening out. At this point we thought that the ridge must be pretty gnarly if all those people were backing off (they were not descending). Once we gained the entrance to the ridge, it was a piece of cake. Taking the trail on the north face of the ridge allowed us to bypass at least 20 people who were struggling on the south side. I'm still wondering what I got all psyched out about, hoping that it might be difficult, but I guess each person's level of comfort is different. 5.5 hours to the top (including that 45 minute wait at Chicken Out Ridge), 2 hours to get down. Great views, nice hike.
|Posted Aug 5, 2007 3:06 pm
|Mt Borah
|I made my 25th successful ascent this past August. 7 trips up the N. Face and 18 on the W. Ridge. Going for 30 if my knees last long enough. I find poles to be most useful for the descent.
|Posted Jul 30, 2007 7:48 am
|To "Chicken Out" Was Not An Option
Date Climbed: Jul 28, 2007
|A friend and I climbed the infamous "Chicken Out Ridge". Although neither of us had any true scrambling experience before, and we analyzed every available handhold/foothold in the rocks, we still successfully traversed the ridge and then the summit (and on our first attempt)! During our descent we gave advice & assistance to several ascending hikers, and, for me, the steep descent was great assisted by a hiking stick.
|Posted Jul 29, 2007 12:51 pm
|Summer fun
Date Climbed: Jul 12, 2007
|If someone tells you this climb is either not steep or doesn't involve scree, they're fibbing. But Chicken Out Ridge is nothing more than an open invitation to delightful ridge scrambling. Lana, Kim, Anne and I made it to the top in 3+36, not at all bad considering one of us was feeling under the weather.
|Posted Jul 13, 2007 12:12 am
|J Fox
|Chicken Out Ridge
Date Climbed: Jul 23, 1998
|I climbed this with my Dad to get in shape for my Rainier climb later in the year. We had a blue skies the entire day. My Dad chickend out on Chicken Out Ridge so I summied on my own. By the time I had made it back down to the ridge he had built up his strength so I summited again with him. We had a hellacious descent through the scree and an 7 hour drive back to Lewistion but the climb was well worth the effort.
|Posted Jun 26, 2007 12:04 pm
|Good day on Borah
Date Climbed: Jun 23, 2007
|Nice day, fun mountain. Going up Chicken Out Ridge and the summit made for great scrambling.
|Posted Jun 24, 2007 7:34 pm
|Almost Chickened Out!
Date Climbed: Jun 23, 2007
|Almost gave up after seeing the last snowfield on the COR but we pushed on. This is a relentlessly steep bugger, so be warned! The COR is great fun and lots of scrambling.
|Posted Jun 24, 2007 5:29 pm
Date Climbed: Jun 19, 2007
|Awesome Climb. Camped out at the trailhead and made the hike in the morning. We had to cross 3-4 snow bridges but had no problems. The weather was perfect outside and the views from the top were amazing.
|Posted Jun 21, 2007 8:57 pm
|Best Bachlor Party ever
Date Climbed: Jun 17, 1997
|The week before my brother got married we climbed Borah Peak. It was a great climb and a good way to get away from all the wedding stress. Also while we were there we got to enjoy the most intents lighting storm ever. It averaged 6 to 10 strikes per second for 4 hours.
Dates Climbed:
Jun 17, 1997
Sept 2, 2007
Sept 5, 2009
|Posted May 8, 2007 7:22 pm
|Steep climb
Date Climbed: Aug 15, 2006
|Great view of the valley below. Almost got nailed by a rock knocked loose by my dad. The trail gets right up the mountain and fast. Great hike and good weather. Climb down is painful. It was my first scrambling experience and I can't wait for more.
|Posted Apr 10, 2007 10:34 pm
|Old Friend
Date Climbed: Aug 20, 1997
|This was the first peak of significance I had ever climbed. The class 3 section was almost a turn around put, but we pushed on. It was a great climb (started at about 5a.m.) and had wonderful views, great weather. I have to get back and do it again some day.
|Posted Mar 25, 2007 8:03 pm
|The Poodle Slap!
Date Climbed: Jul 22, 2006
|Went with my brother Jake and sweet Itza. One of the greatest nights ever. TOUGH grunt.
|Posted Mar 20, 2007 4:39 am
|The edge
Date Climbed: Aug 11, 2003
|With a giant blister on my foot due to lack of intelligence hiking with new boots on Granite... two days before...
Summitted with flip-flops ...
Chicken out ridge was awesome...
Nice views and weather on the top!!
Only 7 to go!!!
|Posted Mar 14, 2007 4:11 pm
|skunk ape
|Idaho's Great Grunt.
|Climbed first time in Aug, 1989,
Climbed 7th time Feb 6,2007
|Posted Feb 26, 2007 11:16 pm
|Quick day trip
Date Climbed: Aug 24, 2001
|I had spent the weak in Logan, UT at a conference and headed to Borah on Saturday morning for the hike. The trail was steep but easy going and Chicken out ridge was free of snow so the going was pretty easy. Made it up in just over two hours and spent some time enjoying the ID mountains before heading down.
|Posted Feb 20, 2007 9:52 pm
|Standard Route
Date Climbed: Aug 26, 2006
|Climbed with 2 friends and a dog from Victor. I suspect Elsa (the dog) was among the first dogs to summit this season. She wasn't too keen on the exposure on the way up ( so we belayed her), but she had the route wired on the way down. We just followed her off the mountain. I think it was my 4th time on the summit with at least 2 prior failed attempts over the years.
|Posted Feb 11, 2007 4:36 am
Date Climbed: Sep 24, 2006
|2nd twelver, a long hard hike
|Posted Dec 10, 2006 2:25 am
|Vagabond Manifesto
Date Climbed: Aug 7, 2002
|This remains the toughest hike I've ever done--very steep, and came at the end of several weeks of hiking and backpacking in the Sawtooths.
|Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:15 pm
|Didn't chicken out
Date Climbed: Aug 9, 2003
|2nd attempt, first successful. Beautiful, long rewarding hike.
|Posted Sep 12, 2006 10:41 pm
|My Son's First Real Summit!
Date Climbed: Aug 20, 2006
|My 9-year old son and I started for the top at 5:30am and made the summit (after he did a lot of coaxing to get me across Chicken Out Ridge) at 12:45pm. I was told I could not come home without him alive. He was a real trooper. We spent 45 minutes at the top on a cool clear day. We made it back to the trailhead at 5:45pm. The downhill about did us both in, but he loved the climb and now wants to do more. My wife said she gets to go next year.
|Posted Sep 6, 2006 7:11 pm


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Murdered Somalia UN workers named
A British United Nations worker and his French colleague shot dead at an airport in Somalia have been named by the UN.
Simon Davis, 57, and Clement Gorrissen, 28, were killed when a guman opened fire on them as they were about to go through immigration at Galkayo Airport in the Puntland region of the country, the UN said.
The men, who worked for the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), often worked together and were on a mission in Somalia to offer technical advice and help build on work in the field of " illicit money flows", the organisation said.
Mr Davis and Mr Gorrissen, who were today described as " irreplaceable" had only just disembarked from a flight from the Somali city of Hargeisa and were about the go through immigration when the gunman opened fire, the UNODC said.
UK citizen Mr Davis was described as having had a "long and distinguished career" in the Metropolitan Police Force, specialising in tracking financial movements, before he joined the UNODC in 2012.
The 57-year-old had also worked closely with the British Government in the then-evolving area of piracy. In a statement, the UK said he had played an " outstanding role" in establishing a dialogue with the business community in Somalia as well as in the UK, and had also used his experience as a police officer to provid training in the Horn of Africa to law enforcement officials.
French citizen Clement Gorrissen first worked for UNODC in 2010 as part of the Global Programme against Money Laundering, Proceeds of Crime and the Financing of Terrorism (GPML) and had helped to develop and coordinate UNODC's activities in the Horn of Africa.
In May 2011 he undertook research as part of UNODC's work for the group focusing on illicit money flows for the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia and was a key contributor to the book Pirate Trails: Tracking the Illicit Financial Flows From Pirate Activities off the Horn of Africa.
UNODC executive director Yury Fedotov said: "Clement and Simon were two of the finest examples of the many dedicated colleagues we are fortunate enough to have at UNODC.
"They were deeply committed to the United Nations' cause and its vision of delivering beneficial change to people and communities in a difficult and complex world. I once again express my sincerest condolences to their family, friends and colleagues."
Of the men's planned mission in Somalia, John Sadage, director of UNODC's Division of Treaty Affairs, said: "Many Somali communities are dependent on the remittances they receive through money transfer systems.
"Clement and Simon dedicated their efforts to ensuring that licit money services were available to the Somali people, but the criminals were prevented from making a profit.
"They were experts in a complex field who worked hard at developing a common understanding between the authorities and those involved in handling money transfers.
"Clement and Simon are irreplaceable to UNODC, but their loss falls far harder on the many people they touched with their professional enthusiasm and energy."
Puntland is an arid region of north east Somalia, which has become infamous as a hub of piracy operations in the seas around that country.
Last week, a 500-bed prison opened in Garowe, the capital of Puntland. The UNODC said the building was a "key" part of its maritime crime programme in the Horn of Africa aimed at combating piracy.
Foreign Secretary William Hague has called for an urgent investigation into the murders. Yesterday he said: "I condemn these brutal murders in the strongest terms and offer my deep condolences to both families.
"Both were working for the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime to help deliver a better future for Somalia. I urge the Somali authorities to urgently investigate these murders, so as to bring the perpetrators to justice."
A friend who answered the door at Mr Davis's home in Hatfield, Herts, said his family did not wish to speak to the press.


text: Lois Goodman, US Open referee was arrested today in New York while having breakfast at an undisclosed location and is being extradited back to California on a felony murder warrant. Ms. Goodman, 70 years old, of Woodland Hills, California is charged with beating her 82-year-old husband Alan Goodman to death. The weapon used? A coffee mug. A freaking coffee mug!!! Now THAT's a strong cup 'o Joe! Tragic. That said, what the hell does an EIGHTY-TWO year old guy do to make his wife want to beat his brains out in the first place? "Alan darling, would you like one lump or two?..." :shock: Google: Lois Goodman


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Transverse Ranges > San Gabriel Mountains > Sunset Peak > Climber's Log
Sunset Peak Climber's Log
[ Sign the Climber's Log ]
|Cool ridge
Date Climbed: Jan 13, 2008
|Hiked this as an alternative to Mt. Baldy because of weather. Great ridge!
|Posted Oct 28, 2010 12:45 am
|Cow Canyon Saddle
Date Climbed: Sep 11, 2010
|Took the firebreak from Cow Canyon Saddle after climbing Lookout Mountain #2.
|Posted Sep 13, 2010 6:28 pm
|Fire Road
Date Climbed: Jan 20, 2010
|Took the leisurely walk up the fire road. Clear day and an easy hike.
|Posted Aug 23, 2010 9:58 pm
|from Padua Hills
Date Climbed: Apr 24, 2010
|nice steep ridge routes up from Potato Mt
|Posted Apr 25, 2010 4:51 pm
|warm day
Date Climbed: Feb 16, 2010
|A very warm day. Hiked up the ridge then went on to summit Colver Peak and Sunset Ridge.
|Posted Feb 17, 2010 1:40 am
|From Cow Canyon Saddle
Date Climbed: Jan 20, 2008
|Steep ridge.
|Posted Apr 16, 2009 12:09 am
|From my own backyard
Date Climbed: Nov 1, 2007
|Looking for a challenge close to home in my early hiking days, I took off from my house, walked up Claraboya (Mountain Avenue), took Johnson's Pasture to the Claremont Hills Wilderness Park, then took a small very steep fire break that leads directly up to the dirt road leading eventually to a gated community in Glendora. I followed this a long way up (5 miles about) until reaching the summit. Wonderful view.
I later came back and did the steeper, narrowere way from Cow Canyon Saddle.
Does anyone realize this little-known peak is actually about 100 feet taller than the venerated Mt. Wilson?
|Posted Mar 29, 2009 2:47 am
|Cloud Hike
Date Climbed: Jan 24, 2009
|This was our alternative to hiking Bighorn. A nice hike, but no views whatsoever. We made up for it with the descent down the west ridge back to the car. We will be back to capture the views of the surrounding peaks on top of Sunset.
|Posted Mar 8, 2009 2:49 pm
|Great Dog Hike
Date Climbed: Mar 6, 2009
|Took the fire road up with the dog in tow. A few long patches of semi-soft snow, but otherwise road was clear. Summitted in clouds, absolutely no views. Sun made an appearance, though. Great trip!
|Posted Mar 6, 2009 6:23 pm
|Sunset Peak
Date Climbed: Jan 24, 2009
|Second climb of Sunset Peak. Nice little walk if weather cooperates. Great views make this hike enjoyable.
|Posted Feb 2, 2009 12:53 am
|Up the fire road
Date Climbed: Nov 30, 2008
|Beautiful day. This is a great place to sit for a while with a map.
|Posted Dec 1, 2008 2:31 am
|North Ridge
Date Climbed: Nov 29, 2008
|Cool and breezy. What a perfect morning! The views from this summit are amazing.
|Posted Nov 29, 2008 2:10 pm
|Cool-down hike
Date Climbed: Nov 22, 2008
|after doing Harwood, Baldy and West Baldy from Register Ridge. Nice views -- with Coco the Dog
|Posted Nov 23, 2008 10:59 am
|David Rosenberg
|Nice Winter Hike
Date Climbed: Apr 9, 2006
|I went up the firebreak and down the fireroad on a coldish April day with just a bit of snow near the top.
|Posted Sep 23, 2008 12:31 am
|Lookout and Sunset - TOO HOT!
Date Climbed: Sep 2, 2007
|Decided to hit both Lookout and Sunset, but it was so friggin hot! Still made it, nice views. We took the fireroad down in search of some shade..
here are my GPS tracks and a Google Map of our route.
|Posted Sep 2, 2007 6:14 pm
|Fire Road
Date Climbed: Aug 4, 2007
|Went up via the fire road and down the north ridge. Way too hot.
|Posted Aug 4, 2007 3:52 pm
|Numerous Times
|Spent many moment standing in the nude on this one. Call me what you will. I don't care and you can EaT iT. I done the fire-break and the road numerous times.
|Posted Jun 7, 2007 3:42 pm
|Good Times
|Ive always done this peak with cool people
|Posted Apr 6, 2007 10:33 am
|Matthew Holliman
|Cloudy day
Date Climbed: Feb 18, 2006
|After hiking up Timber Mtn earlier in the morning and immediately bailing on our original plans to tag a bunch of HPS peaks (fresh snow and cold temperatures), Bob and I settled on this as a consolation hike in the afternoon. Hiked along Sunset Ridge from Cow Canyon Saddle, continuing along the ridge for a way before hoofing it back along Glendora Ridge Road. Views were mostly obscured by the haze. Not the greatest weekend.
|Posted Feb 7, 2007 7:23 am
|First Time
|I have climbed this mountain more times then I remember. First time was up the firebreak in heavy clouds. On top I met socal hiking legend Sam Fink! He's been to the top over a 100 times! Anyways this was my first mountain and it started the whole obsession.
|Posted Feb 1, 2007 1:04 am


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Did you install the bottom half of the seal [ the rubber part with the spring] with the hard surface pointing up?
With the timer set to spin and the motor running can you turn the transmission by hand?
How is the tension on the motor? When you push it towards the transmission it should move 1 1/2 inches then float right back.
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Hot Summer Nights return for 19th year
Original post made on Jul 15, 2013
Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:16 AM
Comments (4)
a resident of Alamo
on Jul 15, 2013 at 9:47 am
Looking forward to the car show. Will be nice to take our grand daughter and daughter-in-law to all the fun. Sounds like a very special evening with the good music and all.
a resident of Danville
on Jul 16, 2013 at 10:36 pm
I liked it better when there were more...but I'll take two!
THANK YOU to the organizers and exhibitors.
a resident of San Ramon Valley High School
on Jul 17, 2013 at 6:35 am
Went to a similar show recently in Iowa, and thoroughly enjoyed it. One big difference: they still allow you to walk around with beer or wine (they had to be in plastic bottles or cups) while looking at the cars. My wife and I remember when the same was allowed at our show, and it's too bad the policy was changed. But here's the twist: we still partially blame the police for this change, and their strategy (or lack there-if) of patrolling the event. We remember walking the entire show, how crowded it was, but in particular how all the police were in "groups" (seemed like 7-8 in each group) in only two places - laughing and talking and having a "good time" themselves. At the very end of the street, we saw one of the fights, with no police anywhere to be seen! If they had stationed two cops "teams"...and have them in explicit spots to stay, we're sure the fights would NOT have occurred. Not only my wife and I, but our neighbors all agree (we luve within walking distance to downtown) that with better planning on THEIR part, we would still be able to enjoy the event like the days in the past. (...the bottom line is that a few bad apples had to ruin what was once an very enjoyable show)
a resident of Danville
on Jul 18, 2013 at 8:35 am
So glad I just moved...no more drunken drivers down Camino T or drunken fools on the sidewalks to put up with. Drinking and car shows are sooo yesterday and tacky to boot.
Salami, Salami … Baloney
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Time for new collaboration between city and school district
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Ok, it's been ages since I wrote here last: at some point I had claimed that I had always been half-hearted about blogs in general, but then I had started using the journal to write quite about anything that would spring to mind. The next step has been that I started (somewhat) compulsively writing in my "new" italian/bilingual blog: it's actually a tumblelog, which should make for a slightly different use than a typical blog; but I also use it as a generic blogging platform, which completely suits my needs... (Indeed this article will be imported there!)
Whatever, back to the point: perlative! I stumbled upon this term by means of the aforementioned blog, since someone else had mentioned a strangely (well, for me - for an expert linguist things would be different, I presume) named case, precisely abessive. "Abessive?!?" Who had ever heard it, let alone imagine it could exist? Indeed, checking Wikipedia for cases, I found out that there are so many more than those I studied in Latin! To some extent I expected so, but really, not so many! Amongst these, one called perlative, which sounds so perlish: it
"expresses that something moved 'through', 'across', or 'along' the referent of the noun that is marked."
Indeed, it is not very common, since:
"The case is found in the West Australian Kuku-Yalanji language and in Tocharian."
Whatever, it would be nice if one could find a use for a perlative case in Perl 6, or create some dialect of Perl 6 which has cases and in particular allows a perlative one, possibly with a very perlish (i.e. pragmatic, syncretic, dwimmy) semantics: Perl in general has no cases, and while I see their usefulness in natural languages -for they tend to allow for free word order, which I like- I don't see how could they fit well in its syntax, even with some modifications.
*NIX shells do have a bare minimum of declensions, but that's a whole another story: the syntax is indeed handy and with the possibility of using the accusative form of the noun in the same statement it is one rare case in which it turns out to be more terse than Perl's for a similar semantics; but then Perl achieves a higher degree of combined terseness-power in quite about everything else that there's no competition.
(Incidentally, before someone points out, yes: I am aware of Lingua::Romana::Perligata.)
Both in Italian and in English we have no declensions either, but for some pronouns. Well, I for one, would like more pronouns in Perl 6, independently of all this madness of a meditation. And then there may be some kind flexion applicated to them. Of course one may imagine that even if so, cases should be at most very common ones like nominative and accusative. But perlative? How could we give a semantically useful significance to a syntax "expressing that something moved 'through', 'across', or 'along' the referent of the pronoun that is marked?" Well, perhaps all this may be useful for some Aspect oriented feature. Which may also be not so bad, in general. In which case the "something" above would be probably any kind of data, and the construction could turn out useful to monitor it, or otherwise manage how it is transferred.
Well: end ay crazy brainstorming!
I'm not even sure how to call it... I have a Google Alert for err... well... something, and one day it popped up a strange page which I just couldn't reach as it basically only did a redirect to something else, which in turn "failed" - bringing to my home. But downloading it with wget I saw the source and appearently the string I was after was actually in: more precisely the page's content seemed to be built with fragments from other pages, one of which containing my target. It also seems to be regenerated dynamically. For the interested, the url is http://bolberryhall.com/html/746b/yahoo-japan-mail.html. I'm just curious what all this thing is about...
A recent clpmisc post (link @ GG) resulted in a largely obnoxious and long thread in which amongst other things people talked about the already oft discussed question re whether Perl should be standardized or not.
In a post (link @ GG) I just read today, Peter J. Holzer -in reply to a mention of which Larry Rosler's famous "ANSI Standard Perl?" interview- pretty much settles the down the question:
The argument about the "marketing value" of a standard has some merit. But a standard is neither necessary nor sufficient for success, even in corporate and governmental environments.
There is no Windows ISO standard, no Java ISO standard, and yet these are used very widely. OTOH there is an ISO (or at least ANSI) CPU standard (for a subset of the SPARC ABI, IIRC) which nobody cares about and I think the Pascal or BASIC ISO standards are similarily inconsequential.
Successful standards (like C90 or POSIX) are developed after there have been multiple implementations and when the implementors actually want to converge on a single standard. In the case of an open source interpreted language like perl5 there is little value in a standard. There is only one implementation, a second implementation is unlikely to happen (porting is almost always easier than rewriting from scratch) if it happens compatibility is probably only a minor goal.
I've just read a popular science article about teleportation. Interesting reading apart, as an introducion they say:
Admit it -- at one point or another we've all dreamed of being able to teleport. How much easier and less stressful life would be if, at the flick of a switch, we could whisk ourselves direct from home to work without the intervening two hours crushed onto public transport, face wedged into the armpit of an overweight man with a sweat gland problem.
Now, I fear that should a public system of teleportation for people and objects come into being, they would manage to arrange it so that you would end up having your face wedged into the armpit of an overweight man with a sweat gland problem, while waiting to be beamed up. And when you arrive to destination, it would still be!
...uploading something on YouTube. Ok, not that much of a venture: all the kids out there do it all the time. But seriously I made it more difficult than it would have been. Since I took the clips with my camera, but they portray a friend of mine's cat pets, I was overly concerned with privacy. And I changed all settings... just to change them back to the defaults when she told me it was ok to make them public, allow comments, and so on.
In case anyone wants to see them, here they are!
Back to real world: I'm going now on a daily basis to give them some food and make sure they're fine. They've just arrived and two days ago they were still crying for their mom. Now my friend's home is already their territory, and they're so tender and so funny, playing all the time. What a wonderful life! Eating, sleeping, playing, pooping. That's it! Oh, and tons of caresses and fondling. I'm almost jealous...
Technically, I'm doing a favour to this friend of mine who is so concerned about her new little acquaintances, but really I'm also benefitting much from this engagement, in this otherwise so horribly depressed and painful period. They speak of pet therapy. I'm beginning to understand... although I've always been and remain skeptical about "cheap" substitutes for human relationships some people turn their love for animals into. (This is not the case with my friend and will never ever be with me.)
Love is patient, love is kind, it is not envious. Love does not brag, it is not puffed up.
1 Corinthians 13:4
sqrt(2)/2 * ( |PD> + i|DC> )
It's always a pleasure when $Larry answers a post of yours. Especially because if he does then he has something interesting and instructive to say. That's what just happened to me. The "downside", if we really want to call it so, is that now I have read through it all... no I mean: reread through it all, because I did already read it, but I mean really reread it many times till I'm sure to grasp the many points that are now still above the top of my head...
Probably by far the least of my problems in life, but not really pleasant either and yet having somehow to do with Perl so perhaps appropriate to this site for once...
I've been plonked by Perl hacker extraordinaire Abigail!
Lately, I reported or literally copied -with proper attributions!- stuff that I regarded as interesting from clpmisc (link @ GG) to PerlMonks and vice-versa. Incidentally, I'm not doing this on a routinely basis or an in an obtrusive way -I plan on doing that whenever I stumble on an interesting thread, which is to say not too often- but while this was well received well in one direction and appearently not bad in the other one, today it was not by Abigail (link @ GG) who wrote:
Is there a point of reposting perlmonks threads to Usenet? People who are interested in perlmonks already read it. People who don't, well, they don't and there's no need to repost for them.
I (IMHO) kindly replied:
I *do* think that there's a point, for people interested in *Perl* who may like one interface and dislike the other one. And I think there's a point reposting stuff from one place to the other if it contributes to Perl knowledge or is otherwise intriguing. For the future I'll stick to include a [PM] "tag" in the subject for those like you who will want to filter such posts out a priori.
But the further followup is was a:
For completeness I'm also reporting my reply to Charlton Wilbur who also supported Abigail's position:
On 13 Sep 2007 11:39:28 -0400, Charlton Wilbur
<email@example.com> wrote:
>If Perlmonks is lacking in competent and knowledgeable posters, then
>perhaps it's time to reexamine their choice of interfaces. And if
Well, of course if I see that many people agree with you and Abigail,
then I will stop doing so. Not that I do it *routinely* nor that I've
done that so many times...
However PM is *not* lacking in competent and knowledgeable posters, in
fact did the OP in this particular example receive quite a lot of
*sensible* answers.
Yet the problem seemed interesting enough to be shared: that it was
posted there is somewhat of circumstance. If I had stumbled in it by
randomly browsing the web and still found it interesting, then I would
have posted it here as well.
>they're not so lacking, reposting Perlmonks threads here and clpm
>threads there serves only to annoy.
Well it may be and may not be. I copied there the content of a thread
posted here some months ago (with proper attributions) and at
<http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=638535> you can read:
: ++ for bringing that here, so I read it
: I didn't know about @CARP_NOT, so I learned something new today.
Also, Uri Guttman and xhoster took a shoot at the actual problem, so
they must have found it interesting.
Honestly, I don't want to bother anyone. Do you think that
occasionally posting here interesting stuff from PM with a suitable
tag in the Subject for you and others to easily filter it out would be
so bad?
(Further reply and discussion ongoing, for the interested.)
She's gone
But it wasn't the KKK that took her away
Just a misunderstanding
A long series of misunderstandings
Perhaps deliberate ones?
Apparent inability to grab the concept of the expression "I love you"
I've never ever said that, was it not the case
In fact to only three women did I say it
But it was not enough
And now, silence...
Current soundtrack:
Hello darkness, my old friend,
Ive come to talk with you again,
Because a vision softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.
In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone,
neath the halo of a street lamp,
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of
A neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence.
And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more.
People talking without speaking,
People hearing without listening,
People writing songs that voices never share
And no one deared
Disturb the sound of silence.
Fools said I, you do not know
Silence like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might teach you,
Take my arms that I might reach you.
But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon God they made.
And the sign flashed out its warning,
In the words that it was forming.
And the signs said, the words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls.
And whisperd in the sounds of silence.