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I was raised by a zen buddhist and a wiccan i know a lil bit about i ching and i hate to quote myself: its kind of wierd but i am posing this to all spiritual blessing discussion group to learn how i can bless my family....thank you thank you thank you for your time
my pastor:imam is teaching me about grimmoires , so i am just learning to meditate ... i am recently married,, long time in a relationship ... this talk of things you keep physically is perfect for a request i had.
.. if you guys wanted to could you guys send me the names and any sites about what is physically respectful for a big family to honor your tradition including things babies and young adult might enjoy like your family does
also do you guys suggest any books about the -=-taoist and all related...- experience for you and those you love novel or factual...about your experience now...
i am recently dealing with leaving an almost cult like well lifestyle that i Did Not want to be in so different religious tradition...its my calm in my family to adorn our new life with all the beautiful things in the world. for my family: the world community: ummah and the things that keep us healthin in Their! life... for us religious anythings
oh and some of the things to keep around the house, the ones that are close to my heart are all things that are traditionally inside the house and for comforting your family, i have adopted foster kids
thank you so much ... and all and anything appreciated... i am in the healthy living groups and family interests and the science and religion...
i feel u add to my life that you as spoiling... i just try to match it... and all details about life in shamanism and the details LOVE LOVE LOVE thank you -nuitprincess
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|10 years ago :: Jan 03, 2008 - 4:00PM #3
New to the boards,
Looking for a place to discuss Taoism and learn more. Am I in the right place? Please advice so I can post more appropriately my questions. Thanks.
Hope you enjoy a Happy New Year.
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|10 years ago :: Jan 18, 2008 - 7:18AM #4
Hi, I am a student of religion. My question is how Taoism understand God? This is what I think, tell me if I am wrong. Taoism has a pantheistic God view. God is the universe. The universe is the body of God. God is not transcendent. Yang and yin is the fundamenta principle Taoism is based on. All live exists and multiplies through the interrelationship of the masculine and feminine principles. This is true from the sub atomic nano level to the macro galactic and universal level. We are unique masculine and feminine parts of the whole cosmos. We achieved self awareness as human beings about 30,000 years ago. We exist to live in harmony with each other and all things. This is he way of Tao in a nutshell as I understand it.
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|10 years ago :: Feb 09, 2008 - 2:23PM #5
From my book..."The tao of zen" by Ray Grigg....." zen comes from an abbreviation of the Japanese zenna, which comes from the Chinese ch'an.....abb. of ch'anna, which is from the sanskrit dhyana, meaning meditation. " ...
zen is spontaneous and aims to shake up concepts, thus activate the intuitive and experiential of existence. The school of dzogen (i think the spelling is) is solid in the fact that samsara (material world) and nirvana (enlightened awareness) are of the same ONE-ness.
"Taoism is the resolution of the subject-object, active-passive paradox that was invented by self-conscious deliberation. It puts together the wholeness that personal willfulness took apart. In simplest terms this is done by entering the dichotomy and becoming the empty stillness in the center of the paradox. This Taoist strategy then moved through Chinese Ch'an and became the essential strategy of Japanese Zen.
This original Taoism was aka "quietism". The tao is too ordinary / simple to be explained, says one teacher. Impermanence, emptiness (the diamond sutra), self-less-ness, wu wei ..... effortless-ness, and we as the "te" in identity with the "tao" is all to be contemplated / felt, but not at all easily put into words...... Art yes.
Hi! My name is Steve .... eclectic by nature, love the Hindu, Sufi (Rumi & Hafiz), Gnostic Christian, Buddhist and blessed lessons via observation of nature.
A disciple asked Buddha...."are you god?"
"No." He replied.
"Then what are you?"
"Awake", said the Buddha.........
Something we are destined to try for and in the Sufi's tradition the longing is as important as the finding. I write mostly on C2C debate as more activity draws me in. I'm not that quiet, but do live in nature and that helps, and gives me inspiration, and the desire to be a bridge between 2 worlds that need integration.
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|9 years ago :: Dec 24, 2008 - 2:03AM #6
Well, I've dabbled in Taoism for a few years, but I want to get more into it. I don't know if a new thread should be started or whatever.
I have the Benjamin Hoff books, the Tao Te Ching, and a book by Eva Wong, called "Tales of the Taoist Immortals". Any others I should get?
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|9 years ago :: Dec 26, 2008 - 2:37PM #7
Greetings Tao Jew(el) Girl,
Kind'a quiet on this board so welcome!! I could use the company. I mostly write on Christianity debate....though not the debater here or there. I am mainly an osho lover. He's said so many good things on Lao Tsu and Tao. Osho.com is fun. Also Dr. Wayne Dwyer spent a year contemplating the Tao Te Ching, and has been on pbs several times. He's also on you tube. The Tasoism board at B-net has some more detailed practices that are deeper / esoteric.
I go with osho and Lao Tsu signaling that the ordinary is the way to be, and the "Quietism" aspect as a good method. Osho ..... I was reading on Fragments of Heraclitus, "Hidden Harmony".... He was saying 30 yrs. ago......Lao Tsu in the Tao was teaching 3 things mainly......Love, balance / temperance, and nature.
Acceptance of the good as well as the vissisitudes and embracing the Whole is a main theme. We are more likely to feel the proper identity with the Existence by being the drop of water that disolves in the ocean, rather than trying to "be the tea cup that tries in vain to hold the whole ocean."
There's a book called "I'm a Jewish Buddhist". And Mark Epstein, a therapist, is good to read.....though he is more on Buddhism than Tao.
Really absorbed guys were Rumi and Hafiz ....though not Taoist....Sufi.
Blessings on this rainy day!
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|6 years ago :: Aug 07, 2011 - 1:40PM #8
In High school a Japanese and Chinese classmates and friends sparked my interest s in Japanese and Chinese culture. In the Air Force I had a one year tour in Vietnam and one in Japan. Along the way from High School to Discharge from the USAF, I read about Buddhism, Taoism, Shinto, etc. I read the Tao te Ching , and other eastern writings. While in Vietnam and Japan I visited some shrines and Temples. In College I had some courses in Chinese and Japanese Humanities. After College I attended Seminary and became a Military Chaplain. I continued to read books of Philosophy, theology and religion. My personal motivation to enter the Chaplaincy was not for religious reasons but to help solders. I continued on my personal spiritual journey. After leaving the Army, I left the denomination I was with and for a while was part of a Unity congregation and then to Unitarianism. For the past few years I have studied and followed the Tao. I still see some wisdom in the Teachings Jesus but no longer see him as a messiah or as "The Christ" . The Tao is difficult for some because it is an unknown knowing, a frail strength, a strong frailty, an existing non existence . The Tao is a journey for the present, following the tao.
"I seldom make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect." Edward Gibbon
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Original post made on Oct 1, 2012
Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, October 1, 2012, 1:24 PM
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a resident of Barron Park
on Oct 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Drivers are the only one's who can ultimately make cars safe. Never 100% but most of the time, without question. slow down, pay attention, slow down, identify possible dangers, slow down, always be ready to brake, and slow down.
Being attentive means identifying crossing pedestrians before they cross.
a resident of Atherton
on Oct 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Put up a pedestrian-activated stop light. Car drivers treat that section of El Camino like a freeway. Nothing less than stop lights will get them to stop.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm
<Being attentive means identifying crossing pedestrians before they cross. >
If only it were that easy. Pedestrians are often very unpredictable, do not have signals, often wear dark clothing at night (not in this case) and often step out expecting cars to stop when it is not feasible or safe to do so. This is particularly so on four lane roads when trucks or large vehicles can hide a pedestrian about to cross from other road users.
I agree, flashing pedestrian lights would help at many pedestrian crossings. They work on Fabian, why not put them on ECR?
I hope that the two pedestrians recover swiftly and that the driver who appears to have been cooperative does also. It can't be easy knowing the harm caused which may or may not have been the driver's fault.
a resident of Atherton
on Oct 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm
This collision happened at noon on a sunny day. Don't tell me that the women were invisible.
I don't buy the excuse that they just ran in front of the truck either. Drivers know to look for cross traffic as well as pedestrians near corners, so pedestrians rarely get hit near the ends of the crosswalk. The majority of these collisions happen in the middle of the street where the driver in a center lane is not paying enough attention to his or her surroundings.
On a multi-lane road, the car may have been hundreds of feet away when the pedestrian entered the crosswalk, but the car is moving so much faster that the pedestrian could not get out of the way.
The city needs to lower the speed limit on this street, beef up speed limit enforcement, and install traffic lights at these crosswalks.
a resident of another community
on Oct 1, 2012 at 2:19 pm
That crosswalk is so poorly designed - everyone commenting is absolutely right, it should have pedestrian alerting systems. We cannot rely on the driver...to err is human.
a resident of Woodside
on Oct 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I Would not blame the driver either! If there is a bigger car on the lane next to him and that stupid driver blocks the vision and does not make a full stop for the pedestrians how is the other driver supposed to see the women coming acromos?!? the pedestrians Are also supposed to make eye contact with drivers and make Sure They see them and make a full stop before They go across.
I was at the scene yesterday and i Don't think we should blame the driver for this unhappy accident. It is up to the city to make improvements on that place where só many lives have been lost and changed fovever.
My heart goes out to the women who got seriously injured, the poor driver for the unlucky accident and for the other People who have lost their lives and their families!
a resident of Menlo Park
on Oct 1, 2012 at 5:01 pm
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This is a tragedy that didn't have to happen. Many (myself included) have been complaining about the dangers of this stretch of road for years. There have been numerous accidents, some fatal. Good for Mayor Widmer for raising a stink about this. I wish more people had done so sooner.
I hope Palo Alto Online will follow up and provide coverage on what - if anything - gets done. This is a situation where local journalism can make a difference.
a resident of Egan Middle School (Los Altos)
on Oct 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm
UPDATE: I personnally know the two pedestrians, thus I know the information that follows. One pedestrian is ok and will hopefully shortly be moved out of ICU. THe other one, who was launched 72 ft, remains in ICU, an dit is unkown if she will survive.
a resident of Woodside
on Oct 1, 2012 at 11:12 pm
It is very very sad that AGAIN and AGAIN lives are being lost and or changed forever at that same place on El Camino!!
a resident of Menlo Park
on Oct 4, 2012 at 8:18 am
If this is such a dangerous area of ecr, and ANY life is on the line, walk to the stoplight at Atherton Ave or Encinal Ave. You still have to be careful even at those crosswalks because drivers are humans. For the number of pedestrians that cross that dangerous section, they should treat that crosswalk like they are crossing a highway. People always want to eliminate any chance of these accidents from happening again, you can't. The car will always win when it's car vs ped. This section of ecr is unique due to only one side having commercial and the other side not a traditional neighborhood, commercial or having high pedestrian use.
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Any update on condition of pedestrians?
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 11, 2012 at 10:29 am
They are doing fine and have been released from hospital.
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*I charge doton chakra and focus it into the ground. I kick one clone over to where I've focused the doton chakra. I then preform the hand seals Ram → Rabbit and stomp my foot. In unison a large pit and a high volume of spikes form. The spikes form almost all around my clone except for immediately behind him. The large hole is formed there instead. The spikes form in such a way that if he doesn't go back he will be hit almost instantly. The clone jumps back and falls into the hole*
(Doton: Sokonashi Pitto no Iwagakure) – Earth Release: Bottomless Pit of Iwagakure
Rank: A
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 40
Damage points: 65
Description: The user performs two handseals (Ram → Rabbit) and stamps on the ground, creating big spikes that emerge with high speed from the ground before and on both sides of the opponent, while at the same time a huge pit, 3 to 5 meters wide, 10 to 30 meters deep and steep enough to make sure the opponent can't climb out, is created directly (approximately 2 steps) behind the opponent without them knowing it. Because most of the opponents probably focus on escaping from the spikes they will not see the pit behind them and are more likely to fall into it by avoiding the spikes.
- Note: The user must have mastered Doton.
- Note: The jutsu can only be used trice per battle.
- Note: The jutsu can only be performed while the users feet touch earth.
- Note: Can only be taught by Leaf.


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public eating houses and distribution and manu facture of foodstuffs while the bill does not affect householders directly it permits the president to limit the amount of any given product which may be shipped into a particular district or deliv ered to a particular distributor effect of this would be to estab lish rationing by districts instead of individuals Chicago price 2.20 on no 1 northern with no 1 northern spring as the tasis the price of the spring crop is lixed at the various buying centers as follows chicnso 52.20 seattle 52.03 omaha 2.1 san francisco 2.10 kansas city 2.ujlioa angeles . 2.10 st louis ... 2.1s ialveston ... 2.20 minneapolis . 2.it,.new orleans 2.20 duluth 2.17 i saltlakecits 2.00 pvr york .. 2.sn r.i-'alu,mont 2.1m1 i'liiladclphla 2j!7j!siiokane 2.00 llslltimorc ... 2.27jl*ocatello id 2.00 ewpor<xcw 2.27 i'ort ivortu .. 2.00 charleston s.27|okla city .. 2.05 savannah ... 2.27 wlchua kan 2.0s i'ortlnnd.orc 2.05 this guaranty is practically the same as made for the fall wheat ulanting and the president points out assures the farmer of a reason i.ljle profit even if the war should end within the year and the large stores of grain in those sections ol tho world that are now cut off from transportation should again cornel lut'o competition with his products i pays tribute to patriotism of farmers president wilson paid high tribute u the patriotism of farmers declar ing their work equally as important i as that of the oldiers in uniform i statement in part follows to increase the price of wheat ibove the present figure or to agitate any increase of price would liave the effect of very seriously hampering the large operations of llio nation and of the allies by causing the wheat of last year's crop to be withheld from the mar ket it would moreover dislocate all carranza to ignore enemy trading ban mexico city feb 23 presi dent carranza it is authori tatively stated is about to issue a decree requiring foreign cap tains whose vessels carry cargoes destined to firms in mexico on the enemy trading list to unload the decree will state that refusal will entail detention of the ves sels 500,000 more infrance july 1 new draft will call half mil i lion to replace men drawn from gamps washington feb 13 — renewed emphasis was placed on secretary of war baker's prediction that 1,500,000 american soldiers will be in france this year when it was learned to-day that the second big draft is coming before july 1 information obtained in provost marshal general crowder's office shows an entire new quota of 00.000 men will be in cantonments by that date to replace the same number who by that time will have been trans ferred to france it is understood that instead of calling out 500,000 at once the de partment will call the men in groups as they can be accommodated at the vacated cantonments all in france by dec 11 this is interpreted as meaning that secretary baker's prediction was based on removal of the entire na tional army first contingent and the entire national guard to franco be fore dec 31 the first national army contingent is almost completed beginning to day and continuing for five days about 76,000 men will move to the i cantonments about 10,000 more will ! go forward march 3 movement of skilled men such as | mechanics accountants bricklayers etc will be continuous from the homes to cantonments and from can tonments to the lorraine front expects 750,000 class 1 men he did not tell tiie committee how j many men he expects to provide for the military machine nor specify the time at which they would bo called but threw some interesting sidelights on prospects for the next draft lie said we will get in class 1 about 750,000 physically fit men there have been a little over 29 per cent of physical rejections at the head quarters of the local boards and at the camor.mcnis ' dannygoodmana wes mob saves policemen sergt danny uoodman of camp grant rockford former Chicago boxer held a threatening crowd at bay with a revolver at the coliseum annex early this morning after two policemen had been slugged and their revolvers takeri away from them while attempting to stop a crap game in the rear of the hall goodman picked up one of the revolvers and stood the crowd off till the reserves came eleven men were arrested flagler widow wills more than 65,000,000 louisvillk ky p-cb 23 — the estate of the late . mrs hobert w bingham formerly mrs henry m klagler amounts to 65,000,000 ex clusive of real estate in florida which includes the palm beach ho tel valued at several million more the appraiser's report was filed to day king george now uses ration card london feb 23 — in common with his subjects king george will after to-day get his meat butter and mar sei-tne if he desires it by ration cahl the king got his card yester day allied labor is unanimous on war aims i london conference accepts pro gram of dec 28 looking to destruction of militarism next step will be international gathering vote to send dele gation to america lo.vdo.v keh 23 — the durliam i miner axwoclatinn lias decided to ! icuuiiort the government's man po«ver ' bill london feb 23 — the inter-allled i labor conference which ended its ses i sions here to-day decided to accept ! the war aims program as enunciated | by british labor on dec is the calling of an international con ference at an early date including both labor and socialist parties probably will be the next step at a luncheon to-day given in honor of the foreign delegates to the | conference arthur henderson former i member of the war cabinet and lead er of the labor party said these proposals stand for the establishment of a league of na tions on a firm basis provided the peoples of all the countries asso ciated with such b league insist upon international co-operation for disarmament and for the preven tion of future warfare skek u iilll.i peace by adopting these views the conference has declared for the absolute freedom and integrity of belgium serbia roumanla and montenegro it has declared that every territorial change shall be based on justice and right thus making for the permanency of a world peace we repudiate any and every attempt to institute an economic i boycott or bring about the economic i isolation of germany on these < conditions not only are we prc ! pared to carry on the war but to see to it that we shall gain a just peace we are convinced that this world conflict can be ended only in one of three ways — the absolute i predominance of all militarism the exhaustion of all the combatants or by conciliation we believe that sooner or later ! the last of these methods must be resorted to by all the belligerents must end militarism we are willing to negotiate with the enemy but not with an olive branch in our hands while he ] clutches a sword in both of ills both sidex must he prepared to i nccept u solution which will hnve for its main object the destruction i of militarism james r mcdonald socialist and labor member of parliament for leicester urged the holding of a con ference with german and austrian socialists and declared the only way to prevail on germany to abandon militarism is to confer with the ger man proletariat to seek amiskica-s aid the conference voted to send five delegates to the united states for the purpose of conferring with the representatives of the american de mocracy on the war situation the delegation will be headed by camilla iluysmans secretary of the international socialist organization the others will be selected by the french british italian and belgian i socialists one delegate said if the anierlcann won't come to un we nillkt go to them emlle vandervelde the belgian so cialist leader in the chamber of dep uties declared it is absolutely essential to have the americans with us in our effort to establish a basis for a denio j cratin peace the day when amer j ican labor will join us is surely not i far distant the united states may have i been late in entering the war but 1 cannot believe that the american working classe.s will be late in joining us in shotilaering labor's shared't tlie wa?'s responsibility 5 american flyers killed one in battle Chicago instructor and 3 cadets perish in camp accidents u.s airman shot down in france another Chicago aviator rej<*cted for army here fells german in combat over enemy lines memphis tenn feb ln a collision of two military airplanes at park field late to-day three aviators i fell to their death they were guy h reagel Chicago civilian in structor cadet robert gray jr long island n y cadet james h webb rome ga the collision occurred when gray tried to avert a collision with an other machine and crashed broadside into an airplane in which instructor reagel and cadet webb were ma neuvering fort worth tex feb m — cadet franklin c fairchild son of congressman fairchild of oneonta n y was killed at everman field no 2 to-day when his plane fell 800 feet he was the twelfth cadet killed here since nov 1 my pal gone says reagel sr that's the end of my pal this was the only comment made j yesterday by frank reagel con i i tractor of west pullman when he , ] received the telegram from the war j department telling of the death of his son guy h reagel civilian in structor at park field aviation grounds miflington tenn young f.eagel was in business with his father prior to his enlistment in the aviation service last july he was married three years ago his mother and widow are prostrated j ! i | '• ' • < i ( ' Chicago flyer fells foe behind lines paris feb 23.—vernon booth of Chicago shot down a german air i plane in a fight several miles inside j the german lines the chicagoan flying with the la j fayette escadrille was on patrol duty when he sighted a german two-seat er and attacked him at a height of about a mile several rounds were exchanged and soon tfce german be gan to descend booth followed the falling airplane until it dropped in a forest inside the german line edward j loughran of new york flying on the french front with a french squadron was killed recently loughran went across the german lines and was attacked by four ma | chines he got back to the french lines but fell to earth and was dead when found he was buried near chalons in the presence of members of the lafayette squadron young booth rejected by u s air service vernon booth tried to join the fly ing corps of the united states army when this country broke off diplo matic relations with germany a year ago but was rejected because he was under weight and too young the american minimum for aviators is 19 years of age booth's father is head of the booth fisheries company he was promi nent in social and club circles and was master of hounds in the on wentsia hunt club the family moved to baltimore several years ago and later to new york booth is a nephew of mrs p a valentine and a cousin of p d armour iii john lester armour and patrick valentine jr mrs willard gaylord 4717 grand blvd is an aunt of young booth she is now in the south but her sister in-law mrs george t smith at the same address expressed the fam ily pride in vernon'e ach evement wilson will urge russ to keep up fight washington feb 23.—pres ident wilson will not turn his back on russia the occu pation of petrograd by german forces now hourly expected will prompt a new message of encour agement to liberalism from the white house administration lead ers predicted to-day fhe purpsse will be to stimu late the russian soviet to select new leaders and continue the fight for liberty and political free dom no matter into what corner of the revolution-swept land they are driven important diplomatic confer ences will be held here to work out details of the new policy as soon as the news from russia is more definite francis rudy to move staff by h h stansbury ambassador advises washington that germans are moving on petrograd staff correspondent of the examiner washington feb 24.—ambassa dor david r francis at petrograd i in a dispatch to the state department j dated feb 18 and received to-day indicated it might become necessary at any time for the embassy staff with all other allied diplomatic rep resentatives to quit the russian capi tal at any time the state department estimates that there are about 150 americans in petrograd now of these 30 are j women and 45 officials members of ; the diplomatic and consular service i meet little resistance the german forces were reported to ibe sweeping toward petrograd and | meeting with little resistance tho report did not indicate where i the allied representatives v/ould go i but it was believed at the state de partment that they would not quit ! russia there are about 150 americans in petrograd thirty are women and forty-five embassy and consular em ployes most of the others are em ployes in the american banks * just what will happen when petro grad falls into the hands of the ger mans is a subject of wide specula tion in washington in the opinion of many the kaiser will endeavor to set up a government under german protection at the head of which some | member of the imperial russian fam j ily will be placed . may make new peace offer it is expected germany if she overthrows tho bolshevik will make j a new and more acceptable peace | offer to the allies in return for per ] mission to do as she pleases in i russia no german measles for these families an epidemic of german measles has struck highland park more than a hundred families were affected children in the homes of h s clow g g green and maurice l roths child were among the victims the sturdy youngsters didn't mind being ill s much but they objected strenuously to the sign on the door reading german measles whereupon each family obtained an american flag and tacked it over the sign so that the word german was obliterated gerard improves after operation new york feb 23 — james w gerard former ambassador to ger many has so improved to-night fol lowing his serious operation wednes day s to b abla to sit up at the khz carljoo k costly peace is offered russia germany gives trotsky 48 hours to accept terms surrender baltic provinces demobilize stockholm feb 23 — both houses of the riksdag have adopted practically without debate the gov ernment's proposal for military in tervention in the aland islands bills permitting the use of con scripts outside of the kingdom and financial credits to send a guard of swedish soldiers to the aland islands were passed premier eden emphasized that ' the government intends to carry out only temporary measures until march 1 1919 london feb 23 an official wireless statement received to-night from petrograd says germany will renew the peace negotiations and will conclude peace on the following conditions both to declare the war ended all regions west of tho line in dicated at brest-litovsk to the russian delegation which formerly belonared to russia to be no longer under the territorial protection of russia germans to take all of courland in the region of dvinsk this line must be advanced to the east ern frontier of courland the former attachment of these regions to the russian state must in no case involve for them obliga tions toward russia russia re nounces every claim to intervene in the internal affairs of these regions germany and austro-hungary have the intention to define further the fate of these regions in agree ment with their populations germany is ready after the com pletion of russian demobilization to evacuate the regions east of the above line so far as it is not stated other wise livonia and esthonia must immediately bo cleared of russian troops and red guards russian armies must be demobilized livonia and esthonia will be oc cupied by german police until the date when the constitutions of the respective countries shall guaran tee their social and political se curity all inhabitants who were arrested for political reasons must be released immediately russia will conclude peace with tho ukrainian people's republic ukraine and finland will be im mediately evacuated by russian troops and red guards russia will do all in its power to secure for turkey the orderly return of its anatolian frontiers russia recognizes the annul ment of the turkish capitulations the complete demobilization of the russian army inclusive of the detachments newly formed by the present government must be car ried out immediately russian warships in the black sea the baltic sea and the arctlo ocean must immediately either be sent to russian harbors and kept germans want 408,030 square miles of russia the loss in territory and popu lation which russia would suffer by making peace on the new terms demanded by the kai ser is shown in the following es timate province sq miles pop finland . . .> 144,253 3,241,000 poland 43,808 12,247,000 livonia 17,574 1,744,000 esthonia 7,605 507,000 courland 10,435 798,000 kovno 15,518 1,857,000 bessarabia .... 17,143 2,657,000 ukraine 151,690 25,760,000 total 408,030 48,816,000 kaiser aids are branded liars leader of galician socialists in austrian lower house decries kaiser's promises amsterdam feb 23 a dis patch from vienna to the lokal an selfrer of berlin says deputy daszin ski leader of the galician socialists in a speech in the lower house said the declared right of self-determina tion of peoples has become an un truth and a hypocrisy on the lips of the ministers of kaiser wilhelm ukrainian contract a myth he added that the contract with the ukrainians would be kept not by the ukrainians but by gen von lln singen dr a'ictor adler declared the ger man government's attitude justifies the suspicion that the wreck of the brest-litovsk negotiations was a very welcome event aitstriak aims attained lie hoped the german advance into russia would be discontinued at any rate he said austria-hun gary would neither directly nor in directly whether as beneficiary or by providing resources for the west | front participate in such an under 1 taking he asserted that austria's i war alms had been attained raid nets captain and 2 lieutenants a gray-haired army captain and two lieutenants all in uniform and four women were taken into custody when detectives from the second dep uty's office raided a flat at 1909 lincoln av late last night the pris oners were hurried into a patrol wagon and taken to the office of united states investigator clabaurjh where they were questioned neither the federal officials nor the police would give the names of the women or army officers all were later re leased lady warwick flees fire in nightdress london feb 23 — lady warwick famed as the best dressed woman in england came to town to-day to buy clothes following the burning of her beautiful home easton lodge in essex the countess escaped in her night attire and lost her entire wardrobe the historic portion of eaaton containing art treasures wa3 undamaged vernon castle leaves less than 15,000 new york feb 0 — vernon castle dancer and aviator is reliably reported to have died leaving less th.in 15,000 theatrical men esti mate that while he was appearing on broadway and in europe with ms wife he earned approximately 750 000 a year ; face to face with kaiserism by ambassador j.w gerard by james w gerard german emperors plot to embroil u s with japan early as new year's day 1914 is exposed rhe exclusive rights to mr gerard's second book writ ten s-ince ms departure from ber lin upon the severing of diplo matic relations with imperial germany have been secured by the Chicago examiner in this newspaper's territory any in fringement of this copyright will be prosecuted a iiiecic.-iii ambnusindor nt the gernuta imperial court inly 23 1013 to feb 4 1017 author of my four years in germany chapter i to the american mind the kaiser is the personifica tion of germany he is the arch-enemy upon whom the world places the responsibility for this most terrible of all wars i have sat face to face with him in the palace at berlin where as the personal repre sentative and envoy of the pres ident of the united states i had the honor of expressing the viewpoint of a great nation saw him in field j and n neutral lands i have seen him in the field a3 the commanding general of mighty forces but i also have seen him in the neutral coun tries through which i passed g my return home — and in my own beloved land — in the evidence of ; intrigue and plot^ng which is to-day the thing as president i wilson calls it which has brought the american people ! face to face witli kaiserism iu the greatest conflict of all his tory what manner ot man is he what is his character how much was ho responsible for what has happened how much his general staff what of the crown prince and what of the neutral peoples and their rulers whom germany has intimi dated and would fain subjugate if it j suited her purpose m incident reveals tm craft of kaiser wm these are the questions 1 shall a9 tempt to answer out of my experflh ences in germany and my contucj^h with the rulers of other count rk>sfl my journeys 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Richard Littlemore | November 22, 2009
By Richard Littlemore • Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 11:49
In her on-air dismemberment of the disingenuous National Post columnist Lawrence Solomon last week, Anna Maria Tremonti, host of the CBC radio show, The Current, asked Solomon this:
"In your book (The Deniers), you write that the scientist you talk about are not actually deniers, that most of them quibble with some of the details but not with the fundamental question of whether climate change is happening or whether it is caused by human activity. Do I have that right?"
Solomon responded: "No, you don't have that right at all."
Yet, on Page 45 of his book, Solomon says: ""As these dramatic reversals for the doomsday view mounted, I noticed something striking about my growing cast of deniers.
"None of them were deniers."
Solomon then spends a page going over quibbles and concludes that the people in his book are "Affirmers in general. Deniers in particular."
Which is to say that Tremonti had it absolutely right, regardless of Solomon's willingness - against evidence committed by his own hand - to try to say otherwise.
Thanks for the link......
The "Current" program was well worth the listen, thanks for the link on that.
The comment Jim Prall made may be worth a mention in the above article as well. I had been to Jim's site before but hadn't seen the numbers on the pro/con peer reviewed literature imbalance while there.
Pro 601 - Con 14 ….. sounds a bit shocking really.
Here's an aside, which won't come as a surprise here I'm sure. Posted below is a comment made on a CBC article that is currently up on their site. Thought the sleuth's @DeSmog may enjoy a bit of comic relief.
"With the release of hundreds of e-mails and documents from Hadley on Friday, that details the fraud and manipulation of data by the climate scientists at the IPCC, to manufacture the entire man made global warming / climate change crises. Demands that we now need full and complete investigation into climate gate. For all the profiteers, smear merchants, fabricators and enablers, it's time to lawyer up and worry about staying out of jail."
The real ironic part of that nonsense is the last sentence. Boy is it ever time for that to happen.
I did submit a complaint on it pointing out that most all of it is totally off the wall and the "fraud" claim might even be considered libelous. No reply from CBC yet but we'll see what happens.
Really wanted to get this up to encourage you folks to keep the pressure on. This type of nonsense really needs to be stopped.
Also thought you would like to know that your work is inspiring others to get involved on squashing this kind of crap.
All the best.
GreenMachine replied on Permalink
One of the critical tests for libel in Canada is that the person making the comment must have reasonable grounds to believe that the comments are true. In light of climategate their is ample grounds to make statements relating to fraud. However the scientists involved are free to test the legal waters, but they would never venture to do so. If they did then the e-mails would be admissable as evidence and therefore become part of the public record and be able to be published in every jusrisdiction in the world. I think they are sticking to the "Hacker" story instead of the truth that it was a whistleblower to keep a lid on the incredible damage the publication of these e-mails in their entirety would do.
RickJames replied on Permalink
Inside job? now that's much
Inside job? now that's much more interesting than some hacker. Lets go with the inside job theory.
Where is this whistleblower? Doesn't the UK have laws protecting whistleblowers? If there is such a person, why hasn't he come forward and corroborated the authenticity of these emails and data? Why hasn't he released everything he has?
Of course if it really was a hacker, I can understand the reluctance to come forward.
RickJames replied on Permalink
The word deniers means
The word deniers means different things at different times. It's getting pretty tired as a general label and serves only to cut off discussion.
If there was a legitimate "discussion", with real scientific research being quoted on both sides, these people wouldn't be called deniers. But when all you do is deny, with no legitimate evidence, then the label is accurate.
But if your definition of "discussion" is just the anti-science side making stuff up, then I'm sorry to say the label doesn't seem to "cut off discussion" at all.
CamMacKay replied on Permalink
CRU Exposure
I don't know if you guys are aware of the extent or the occurance of hacked e-mails being released over the weekend. I was made aware by my teenage daughter and her friends. The sysonpsis of the whole situation is that climate change is one giant hoax. The IPCC climate scientists themselves revealed that they are not sure that global warming is occurring and if you read the e-mails they are not even sure that the theory of anthropogenic warming is even accurate at all or even materially atributable to man.
In any event this kind of puts carbon emissions on the backburner as far as priorities to deal with. If my eco freaky daughter is now convinced global warming is not worth dealing with it's only a matter of time before everyone else clues in.
I have written an article somewhat related to this fact on my new blog. www.cammackay.com
If you are interested please take a look and leave a comment. Thanks
You should have done your homework.
Your opening implies that you didn't read any other posts at this website, even though you mention "a favorite blog of mine called Desmogblog.com" in the second post on your own website: http://cammackay.com/?p=5
Your first post on your own website is dated Nov. 6; I don't know if that date can be fiddled with; maybe someone who is computer savvy can check when the website was actually set up.
The only link on the Blogroll is Climate Depot.
You have a cluster map showing no visitors starting from Nov. 23
Did you start your website with the aim of making it a denialist blog? Is it an astroturf blog?
CamMacKay replied on Permalink
Wow VJ
You certainly are suspicious of anyone and anything. I had set up my blog a month ago but I wanted to get some projects completed at work first. Deniers blog, no, global warming is only one topic of many but the coverup is very interesting. Probably the biggest news item that will never be covered by the mainstream.
Astroturfing somehow implies that I'm getting funded by big oil. The only funding I get is from myself and the only motivation I have is to write interesting articles base on factual evidence.
The whole global warming/climate change debate is more interesting now as the leaked documents certainly puts a human face on what has been going on. The leak is also one of the only things that is starting to turn heads and change minds as everyone I have talked to about it upon doing research and due diligence on their own, comes to the same conclusion. What a scam.
AGW is not totally ruined as a theory but it certainly has lost a lot of credibility and will now be examined for the evidence and scientific merit, rather than on personality like it was before. Ie: the consensus is in, all scientists agree with me, your a denier etc…
If you've read it, I think my article on press bias covers a big reason as to why this huge story has been covered by the main stream media as it has.
Sorry, a bunch of private emails stolen by some denialist have very little to do with the actual science which shows that AGW is well underway.
So why does your Blogroll have only Climate Depot on it?
CamMacKay replied on Permalink
What other blogs should I reference too? I will definately put desmog up there, any other suggestions?
RealClimate, Deltoid, Rabbet
RealClimate, Deltoid, Rabett Run; check out the links on this page, lower right.
Another suggestion......
CamMacKay wrote:
"What other blogs should I reference too?"
Deep Climate may be a good one.
I noticed you had commented there and someone pointed out your confusion on where these e-mails were "hacked" from and pointed out they were from CRU and not Hadley which are 2 separate institutions.
Also noticed you have your article tagged "Hadley" & "Hadley hacked". Will you be correcting that error?
You may also want to spend a bit of time going through the 74 "long debunked" skeptic arguments Skeptical Science has posted on their site.
If you go through the list you will note there is a page devoted to glacier loss which relates to your article title. The link below will help get you started….
All the best.
CamMacKay replied on Permalink
Thanks, for the reply on deepclimate, I think that is the one I'm going to pick as it seems like it is Canadian as well. As for the minor typographical errors relating to the IPCC scientists being uncovered, I think I wll let them stand. The real story is not my spelling or which side of the campus the truth was uncovered, but the fact that the truth has come out.
I can appreciate that some of you have so much vested in global warming. Although in light of the lack of physical evidence supporting the theory, the recent outing of corrupt scientists and the detrimental effects of implementing a plan to fight carbon why are you not giving the whole thing a quick rethink?
No one can really say anything definative on climate change either way although the evidence seems to be mounting in favor of mans impact being very small. I'm not too keen on going broke to fill up a tank of gas but on the other hand my business is carbon neutral and I have no financial interest in fossil fuels other than some small portfolio holdings. I can go either way on climate change, I just want the truth, don't you?
perhaps we should have a royal inquiry here in Canada to get to the bottom of this?
No problem.....
… glad to help out.
re: your comment,
"I just want the truth, don't you?
perhaps we should have a royal inquiry here in Canada to get to the bottom of this?"
Couldn't agree more. Getting the truth out is something I have been hoping for almost daily since I realized years ago how serious an issue this is and how many million$ have been spent on the dis-information campaign to "hide" the truth.
Royal inquiry is an excellent idea as long as we brought in someone outside our government to conduct it. Can't say I'm overly impressed with those making the decisions at this point, or for many years previous.
Then again it might be better to simply consider who has already signed on showing agreement to the mountains of peer reviewed literature that establishes AGW and save poor tax payers any further burden.
I would think any "inquiry" would be more than satisfied with so strong a consensus. I'm actually a little puzzled by folks like yourself who still seem to be having a struggle with that. I would have thought it obvious to a stump by now.
You may want to forward your thoughts regarding your skepticism along to some of those mentioned in the above link though it might take a l-o-n-g time to get through the list.
All the best with your efforts, keep us posted on how things go OK. Cheers
Ben Lawson replied on Permalink
Sysonpsis, huh?
"The sysonpsis of the whole situation is that climate change is one giant hoax"
Congratulations! Your blogging adventure in right wing paranoia has begun, predictably, with what kids these days call "epic fail".
IPCC scientists... ???
CamMacKay wrote:
"The IPCC climate scientists themselves…."
If you do a search on Wiki of "IPCC" you'll note that there are NO scientists with the IPCC which is stated quite plainly in the sentence below from that Wiki page.
"The IPCC does not carry out its own original research, nor does it do the work of monitoring climate or related phenomena itself."
The scientists involved work for scientific organizations.
You may want to make note of that on your blog.
All the best.
ike solem replied on Permalink
API & ACCCE backing for climate denialists posing as scientists?
I think that's the real story, not emails stolen from legitimate climate scientists.
P.S. By the way, I wonder what would have happened if it had been Lawrence Livermore or Los Alamos National Lab's email system that had been hacked, with the results posted on the web for all to see?
Yes, that would have been called a cybersecurity breach that would require a full-scale investigation by the FBI and other bodies - just something to think about. In contrast, the press has been silent on that issue…
"The Government Accountability Office said in a report that the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico continues to have significant computer security problems, warning that it is having difficulty "protecting the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of information stored on and transmitted over its classified computer network."
"The classified computer network of a major U.S. nuclear laboratory remains vulnerable to cyber attack, according to a congressional watchdog agency. The Government Accountability Office said in a report that the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico continues to have significant computer security problems, warning that it is having difficulty "protecting the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of information stored on and transmitted over its classified computer network."
Solomon Strikes Back!
Lawrence Solomon has written about his interview and he has suggested a number of questions that Anna Maria Tremonti could have asked James Hoggan in the same program.
While Jim is writing his replies, I'll be making pocorn.
(Edited to add): Ha, I just noticed that Solomon wrote "My appearance Thursday morning was, to my knowledge, just about the only time that The Current has ever invited a climate change skeptic."
Meanwhile, in the comments, Tom Harris wrote at 3:54 am Nov 21: "Your piece illustrates well why I turned down being interviewed for The Current a couple of years back…"
YankeeBubba replied on Permalink
Whizzing into THE CURRENT
Forgive my cupidity, but does the CBC radio program 'The Current' have anything whatsoever to do with THE GOREACLE's flagging, recently employee-culled small screen venture 'Current T.V.?'
With all that's transpired, has there been an outpouring of concern for any re-positioning of THE GOREACLE's investment portfolio? I've been scouring EBAY, etc. for a listing of his 100 foot Houseboat.
I see him as the real victim in all this and would like to help in any way I can.
Bill Gates builds hospitals for the needy, the rest of us do what we can.
The Current
The Current is a longtime CBC news program. Could your rather immature comments be referring to Al Gore? I doubt that his use of the word "Current" has any connection to CBC's program.
Did you mean to write cupidity or stupidity in referring to yourself?
YankeeBubba replied on Permalink
Classic Symptoms
These are classic symptoms of emotional trauma and grief, though it appears you have leap-frogged Denial (NOT the river in Africa) to Anger. You must commit yourself to cycling through them, like the 12-step programs with which I'm sure you're familiar.
Your heroes, The CONSENSUS (CON US for short) appear to be Charlatans of the first order so your feelings of abject betrayal are entirely valid. I'm reminded of the Reverend Jim Jones so steer clear of the laced grape Flavor Aid.
The real Heroes are the hackers. One may only hope they're timing the
release of these damning emails like Andrew Breitbart's release of the damning ACORN videos.
ACORN(on life support)and THE CONSENSUS have a lot in common.
Is the MANTRA still the unassailable, unquestionable "the science is settled and the debate is over?" Maybe you should consider, "yeah we got busted; our bad. But everyone else is doing it!"
Lastly, I've always welcomed personal attacks as they identify clearly
a dearth of reason and a weakness of position.
"Your heroes, The CONSENSUS (CON US for short) appear to be Charlatans of the first order so your feelings of abject betrayal are entirely valid."
"Lastly, I've always welcomed personal attacks as they identify clearly
a dearth of reason and a weakness of position." Really?
RickJames replied on Permalink
I believe he gets through the
I believe he gets through the loop hole here by targeting a class of people rather than a specific individual.
Freiherr von Mo... replied on Permalink
ad hominem
The problem is: here is creationism at work, meaning no arguments accepted, just belief - which, as we know, does not necessarily rely on facts. Cultish repetition, over and over repeated, out of sync with reality. And, as James Hoggan writes in his book: it creates (sic) uncertainty with the (less informed) public.
Anyway, it is pointless to discuss facts with a creationist.
Interesting quote........
Came upon this while following another AGW related thread elsewhere.
I felt was worth re-posting here….
Franklin D. Roosevelt in an April 29, 1938 message to Congress warned that the growth of private power could lead to fascism:
"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism–ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power."
Sure has a familiar ring when you consider the recent announcements coming from certain elected reps that will go un-named here.
GreenMachine replied on Permalink
Tim Ball
I think Tim ball's post on this issue says it best. This is a deathblow to Climate Science. Here is one of Canada's leading climatologists, fighting back for science. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyXgjfy6008
I just hope the rest of societies scientific endeavors are not tainted with the same brush as Climate science is painted with.
In any event I guess its time to move on.
No Evidence of Warming
No credible scientific research
No Climate scientists behind the AGW theory anymore
No reason to keep up with the carbon credit parade.
Freiherr von Mo... replied on Permalink
Same old stuff
Again and again the same bogus. Does repetation create truth?
Ben Lawson replied on Permalink
"Deathblow to Climate Science", huh?
Are you denialists completely brain dead? Are your "skeptical intellects" so mesmerized? There is nothing, NOTHING, N-O-T-H-I-N-G in this whole matter that changes any of the scientific understanding or evidence of AGW.
By this point you are simply proving yourself deliberately dishonest by making or supporting these claims. This is literally schoolyard taunting on the level of "I know you are but what am I?"
Noted and judged.
birdbrainscan replied on Permalink
straining credulity
Seriously? Tim Ball "one of Canada's leading climatologists"?
You really need to check your sources there. My website ranks authors by number of peer-reviewed works on "climate" and you have to scroll awfully far down to find Tim Ball - or nearly any of the numerous signers of a dozen public letters saying we should stop worrying about climate:
This page has the overall listing sorted by number of climate articles (Tim Ball is #1848 in this ordering):
This page lists just Canadians; Tim Ball is #212 of 259, and the last 30+ are dominated by climate skeptics who published two or fewer works on climate in their lifetimes:
Also, I think you are off the chart with "No Climate scientists behind the AGW theory anymore". How about the following?
A) 1700 UK scientists, from 67 universities and 55 other research institutes, who just signed this statement defending the integrity of climate science:
B) 850 Canadian scientists endorsing this:
C) 1700 U.S. scientists and economists who signed this statement:
How are we supposed to take you seriously when you make this kind of over-the-top claim that there are "No Climate scientists behind the AGW theory anymore" (or, for that matter, "No credible research" - this is ridiculous, unless you have a special definition of "credible" that involves "believed by you" rather than "credible to most people")?
(Prediction: any reply will invoke something from Oregon.)
CamMacKay replied on Permalink
Wallstreet Journal
The wall street Journal has blown the lid on climate gate and is suggesting that congress call in some of these rogue climate scientists. So far the climate scientists are evading reporters and threatening legal action. Looks like it's only a matter of time before these people get reigned in to face the consequences of their actions. You can't pervert science like they have and expect to get away with it.


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A.C.T. Receives NEA Grant to Support STUCK ELEVATOR World Premiere, 4/4-28
National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) Chairman Rocco Landesman announced today that American Conservatory Theater (A.C.T.) is one of 832 nonprofit organizations nationwide to receive an NEA Art Works grant. A.C.T. is recommended for a $40,000 grant to support the world premiere of Stuck Elevator. With a libretto by Aaron Jafferis and music by Byron Au Yong, this music-theater work will make its debut at A.C.T.'s Geary Theater April 4–28, 2013.
Stuck Elevator is based on the true story of a Chinese restaurant deliveryman who was trapped in a Bronx elevator for 81 hours. Sounding the alarm will open the doors to freedom, but calling for help also means calling for attention-with dire consequences for this undocumented immigrant. Inventively staged by OBIE Award winner and internationally acclaimed artist Chay Yew-and introducing the prodigious work of a brilliant young composing team-Stuck Elevator unleashes an evocative collision of stories, sounds, instruments, and ideas. Stuck Elevator is a recipient of an Edgerton Foundation New American Plays award.
"I'm proud to announce these 832 grants to the American public including American Conservatory Theater," said Chairman Landesman. "These projects offer extraordinary examples of creativity in our country, including the creation of new work, innovative ways of engaging audiences, and exemplary education programs."
In March 2012, the NEA received 1,509 eligible applications for Art Works grants requesting more than $74 million in funding. The 832 recommended NEA grants total $22.3 million, span 13 artistic disciplines and fields, and focus primarily on the creation of work and presentation of both new and existing works for the benefit of American audiences. Applications were reviewed by panels of outside experts convened by NEA staff and each project was judged on its artistic excellence and artistic merit.
For a complete list of projects recommended for Art Works grant support, visit the NEA website at arts.gov.
American Conservatory Theater nurtures the art of live theater through Dynamic Productions, intensive actor training in its conservatory, and an ongoing engagement with its community. Under the leadership of Artistic Director Carey Perloff and Executive Director Ellen Richard, A.C.T. embraces its responsibility to conserve, renew, and reinvent the rich theatrical traditions that are our collective legacy, while exploring new artistic forms and new communities. A commitment to the highest standards informs every aspect of A.C.T.'s creative work. For more information about A.C.T., go to www.act-sf.org.


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Photo by Kevork Djansezian/Getty ImagesA year after Steve Jobs died, Apple is getting fresh scrutiny.
The catalyst is the ouster of Scott Forstall, which led to revelations of a company filled with infighting. It's also led to a fresh round of criticism about Apple's software design.
This was to be expected. Since Jobs returned to Apple the company was nearly perfect. Any errors after he died of any magnitude were going to used as proof that the company was losing its mojo.
However, it's important to remember nearly perfect isn't the same thing as perfect. As a reminder that Apple wasn't always perfect with Jobs in charge, we've put together this collection of Apple mistakes.


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I feel like a hypocrite when I say to Scout after her fourth I'm-missing-out-on-something-HUGE-esque plea for the day;
"No. You aint watching Doctor Who. You aint NEVER watching Doctor Who, not until you've moved out of home and have kids of your own (i.e. at least 30)".
Granted, there are benign episodes of Doctor Who, those that don't force you to watch through slightly splayed fingers but they are, in my opinion, the minority. And let me tell you, I muthaflippin' LOVE "Doctor Who" but the level of fantasy/horror in it I deem largely inappropriate for a 7 year old.
I had a "discussion" with a chum last week about Doctor Who. She lets her young kids watch it, they've grown up with Doctor Who from a young age. She considers it a family show. We finished the discussion on fake evil eyes and an agree to disagree sentiment, but I still feel that for someone like Scout, who has a ridiculously fertile imagination, it is not something she should be watching. It would give her nightmares for YEARS. She would convince herself that a Fallen Angel was living under her bed and she would have to stay awake ALL NIGHT so it wouldn't get her.
Ahem, no thanks. No f*cking thank you.
I watched Doctor Who when I was 7, armed with an active imagination and a propensity for nightmares. I watched Davros and the Daleks through slightly splayed fingers. I racked up a decent horror back catalogue by age 10 – "The Amityville Horror", "The Green Slime", "The Uncanny", "The Andromeda Strain" (you know, the GREATS from the 70s) before graduating to "The Exorcist" a couple of years later, in my opinion, the most terrifying of them all.
It makes my blood freeze to think about Scout watching those same movies at such a tender age. I suspect before a child is at least 10, they'd struggle to separate what is real and what is fantasy. I wondered what the hell (sorry, had to) my mother, an otherwise sensible woman, was thinking. I worked my way through the entire horror section of our local video store in my very early teens and my parents didn't bat an eyelid. Slashers like "Halloween", Ghost movies ("The Changeling"), Zombies ("City of the Living Dead") and Demon spawn ("The Omen"). The bloody, the beastly and the baleful.
Then it occurred to me that parents in the 70s and 80s generally raised their kids with a looser hand. I know this is a generalisation, but culturally, I think kids ran freer 30 years ago.
I remember being Scout's age and buggering off to the lake near our home for hours with the neighbours' kids. We would return sunburnt and happy and my mother would make us lunch. I took the bus to primary school by myself. I doubt the crime rates are any higher now than they were then, but in 2013 there exists amongst parents a heightened sense of helicoptering that was a fairly rare beast in the late 70s. Media saturation has made us paranoid, overprotective. The only news we got in 1978 was the nightly news on NBN3 (black and white, bitches!), the Newcastle Herald and the news on ABC radio. Now, you can't escape it. Perverse murders. War atrocities. Kids stolen and hidden in a cellar for 20 years. The stuff of horror movies. It's in your face 24/7. Twitter. Facebook. 24-hour news channels. iPhone apps. Blogs. Today's parenting sphere often seems to me like a weird oxymoron of both overprotectiveness and a desensitised view of the same horrors we are trying to protect our kids from.
I didn't think I'd be an overprotective parent, having been raised by permissive parents, but when it comes to visual horror I defer to my instincts. Those instincts are themselves hypocritical and run contrary to the idea that I'd relished those dodgy 70s horror classics from a deeply disturbing young age and I turned out alright (just ask me). I can't ever see myself being OK with allowing Scout to watch any horror until she's left home, unless it involves a dopey dog and a bespectacled nerd called Valma. I know Doctor Who shows only mild horror, fantasy more than horror really, and there are possibly some episodes I'd consider her watching, but thematically, there is some scary shit thrown in there, albeit in the dodgy retro cardboard-style of the early 70s.
Something my friend said resonated with me though, that reading something in a book can be worse than seeing it portrayed on screen – that a young child's imagination can formulate something far scarier in their heads whilst reading. I think she's right and in many ways, I envy her throwing a little bit of caution to the wind and getting the family together for a Doctor Who marathon.
I just can't go there. Not yet.
How young is too young for scary horror movies?


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In his Disquisitiones generales circa superficies curvas (1827) [Gau], Gauss introduced the spherical image of an oriented surface in space. Each point P on the surface is mapped to that point Q on the unit sphere whose radius vector is parallel to the outward normal vector to the surface at P. The determinant of the derivative of the Gauss mapping at P is the Gaussian curvature K of the surface at P . If K(P) 0, a small simple closed curve about P on the surface is mapped to a simple closed curve about Q on the sphere. These two curves will have the same orientation if K(P) > 0 (P is elliptic), or opposite orientations if K(P) < 0 (P is hyperbolic). Gauss indicated that he intended to study the geometry of the spherical image near a point P with K(P) = 0 (a parabolic point), but he never published anything about his investigations.
Hilbert and Cohn-Vossen discussed several examples of Gauss mappings near parabolic points in their book Anschauliche Geometrie (1932) [HC, 529]. The spherical image of the bell surface has a "fold" along the image of the parabolic locus. The parabolic locus of the torus of revolution is two circles, each of which has a single point as spherical image. The monkey saddle has an isolated parabolic point, which is a ramification point of the Gauss map.
The Gauss map of the bell surface is stable: any sufficiently small perturbation of the map has the same topology. However, there is an arbitrarily small perturbation of the Gauss map of the monkey saddle which has a curve as its parabolic image, and which therefore has a different topological type. We shall see that such a perturbation can be realized as the Gauss map of a perturbed monkey saddle. This illustrates a theorem of Looijenga [Lo] and Bleeker and Wilson [BlW]: For an open dense set in the space of immersions of a surface in 3-space, the Gauss map is stable.
Whitney [Wh] showed that the only local singularities of a stable map of surfaces are folds and cusps. (The map (x, y) -> (x, y2) has a fold singularity at (x, y) = (0, 0), and (x,y) -> (x, y3 - xy) has a cusp singularity at (x, y) = (0, 0).) The singularities of the Gauss map of a surface are precisely the parabolic points. If the Gauss map is stable, almost all of the parabolic points are fold points of the Gauss map. In this paper we shall investigate the extrinsic geometry of a surface at a point where the Gauss map has a cusp. This not only puts classical geometric concepts in a new light, but also vividly illustrates the powerful techniques being developed in the theory of singularities of families of differentiable maps. We obtain a list of ten geometric characterizations of cusps of Gauss mappings, of which the following three are the most interesting.
Theorem. If the Gauss map N of the immersion X : M2 -> R3 is stable, then N has a cusp at P in M if and only if any one of the following statements is true:
1) The restriction of X to arbitrarily small neighborhoods of P has bitangent planes.
2) A ridge of X crosses the parabolic curve of X at P, and the principal curvature associated to the ridge is zero at P.
3) P is a parabolic point of X which is in the closure of the set of inflection points of asymptotic curves of X.
There are two types of Gaussian cusps: the elliptic cusp, at which the projection of the surface to its normal line has an extremum, and the hyperbolic cusp, at which this projection has a topological saddle. Each of the above three characterizations of cusps of the Gauss map reflects the difference between the two types. For an elliptic [hyperbolic] cusp, the nearby bitangent planes touch the surface at elliptic [hyperbolic] points. The line of curvature associated to the zero curvature direction at an elliptic [hyperbolic] cusp lies in the elliptic [hyperbolic] region. The configurations of asymptotic lines which occur near an elliptic cusp are topologically distinct from the configurations which occur near a hyperbolic cusp.
Characterization (1) occurs in the work of Zakalyukin [Z], Romero Fuster [Rom1], and Bruce [Bru1]. Characterization (3) occurs in the work of Arnold [A6], Kergosien and Thom [KeT] (see also [BaT]), Landis [Lan], and Platonova [Pl2]. Arnold has informed us that many of our results are known to the Russian school of singularity theory (cf. chapter 8 below). Much of their work is summarized in a forthcoming book [AGV]. A detailed investigation of cusps of Gauss mappings is also contained in the work of Y. L. Kergosien [Ke1] [Ke2] [Ke3].
We would like to express our debt to the pioneering work of Rene Thom on the geometry of singularities of differentiable maps [T1] [T2] [T4]. His description of focal surfaces using catastrophe theory [T4, p. 96], as developed by Porteous [Por1], was a starting point for our research.
Several other applications of singularity theory to differential geometry are discussed in Wall's survey "Geometric properties of generic differentiable manifolds" [Wa2] (cf. also [Bru2]). Many interesting ideas and examples in this vein occur in an unpublished manuscript of Michael Menn. An introduction to singularity theory is given by the survey articles of Callahan [C1], Arnold [A1], Wall [Wa1], and Levine [Le].
Our first chapter is about plane curves, where the interplay between the singularities of the Gauss map and singularities of families of functions takes on a very simple form. In the second chapter we introduce five examples which we shall use to illustrate our results. The singularities of the Gauss maps in these examples are analyzed using techniques of Bleeker and Wilson [BlW]. A description of the remarkable confluence of geometric properties which occurs at a Gaussian cusp appears in the following chapter. The proofs that these properties are equivalent for generic surfaces occur in chapters 4 through 7. We conclude with a short chapter summarizing current work on singularity theory and the extrinsic geometry of curves and surfaces.
The computer graphics illustrations in the original document [BaGM2] were created by Thomas Banchoff and Charles Strauss. Their film, "The Gauss map, a dynamic approach" includes our examples 2 and 3a (see [BaT]).
[Web graphics and mpeg movies by Dan Dreibelbis, using CenterStage and StageManager, external modules for Geomview. Images of mathematical equations were created by latex2html.]
We thank Rick Porter for a stimulating lecture on envelopes of plane curves and catastrophe theory which pointed out very fruitful directions for this research project.
|Thomas Banchoff
Brown University
Providence, Rhode Island 02912
|Terence Gaffney
Northeastern University
Boston, Massachusetts 02115
|Clint McCrory
University of Georgia
Athens, Georgia 30602
Supported in part by the National Science Foundation, Grants number
MC579-01310 and MC579-04905.


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From his humble beginnings in a small Panamanian fishing village to the bright lights of Yankee Stadium, Mariano Rivera now stands alone as the greatest closer of all time with 602 career saves (MLB.com).
"It's a blessing," said Rivera. "I never thought I'd be doing this for so many years and be able to accomplish this record." (ESPN New York.
At the urging of his teammates, Rivera stood on the mound to enjoy the Yankee Stadium ovation.
"Oh my God," he said of the curtain call. "For the first time in my career, I'm on the mound alone. There's no one behind me, no one in front me. I can't describe that feeling because it was priceless." (The New York Times).
Said Rivera's father, who traveled from Panama to watch his son set the record, "Me siento muy content (I'm very happy)... Thank God that Mariano was able to reach this level in his career after he started out as a fisherman. I'm very proud because we come from a small fishing village. I'm proud that Mariano was able to achieve this record." (New York Daily News)
The Rays made the most of their off-day in New York City with a little Big Apple sightseeing. Cesar Ramos visited the Ground Zero memorial (Twitter), Evan Longoria was in foodie heaven at Eataly (Twitter: 1 | 2) and Kelly Shoppach snacked on a famous Shake Shack burger (Twitter).
R.A. Dickey's secret to a good physique? Captain Crunch cereal, followed by Tootsie Roll pops (Twitter). Dickey tweeted the secret recipe while enjoying breakfast with his son (Twitter) and "admiring each other's muscles." (Twitter)
The Marlins' Chris Hatcher received a very special delivery at the ballpark on Monday. First Sergeant Joseph Hjelmstad, stationed in northwest Kuwait, sent the relief pitcher a picture, a personal letter and an American flag flown on military patrol in Iraq to thank Hatcher for giving his son a baseball during a game at Wrigley Field.
Said Hatcher, whose own grandfather died in military service, "Pretty nice gesture on his part. The least I could do was flip a ball to [a kid] whose dad was about to go dodge bullets. I'm going to hang it proudly. What those guys are doing for us -- they're giving us freedom. We're worried about strikeouts. They're worried about ducking and covering." (Miami Herald)
Inspired by Fashion Week, Major Leaguers showed off their own fashion statements with Rays team letterman sweaters (Twitter), Mets rookie cheerleader outfits (Twitter) and Back to the Future-inspired Nike MAG sneakers worn by the one and only Brian Wilson (SB Nation).
Torii Hunter visited Baltimore's St. Frances Academy over the weekend to dedicate a new batting cage funded by the memorial fund named for his late Angels teammate, Nick Adenhart.
"What Nick really wanted was to get kids to really enjoy this game. That's what he loved. That was his passion. So even though he's not here, he's giving back," said Hunter of the chance to honor Adenhart and give back to the community. "Baseball has done a lot for me as far as building my dream, giving me an opportunity to help my family, get them out of poverty. There's a lot of kids out there than can do the same thing, and baseball will give them an opportunity." (Los Angeles Times)
The A's Hideki Matsui and David DeJesus joined actors Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill on the red carpet for the world premiere of Moneyball, a film chronicling general manager Billy Beane and the rise of the A's from small-market team to playoff contender. (Oakland Tribune)
Tweet of the Day: "Jack Graham wherever and whoever you are, Rawlings sent me your glove. I have to assume you have mine. Im comin for it" -- Indians reliever Vinny Pestano (@VinnieP52)
Quote of the Day: "I don't hit bloopers. I melt faces." -- "Kooky" Phillies slugger Hunter Pence (ESPN.com)
This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Truckers from Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska and South Dakota upset with high fuel prices are planning a protest today in South Dakota's capital city of Pierre.
Brian Frahm is organizing the protest. He is expecting about 150 truckers to show up and parade around the Capitol building.
Diesel fuel is selling for about $4.25 a gallon. And they only get seven miles to a gallon. Frahm says it costs over $1,000 to fill a rig.
"Fuel just keeps going up so fast we can't adjust our rates accordingly. We can't keep up with it. It's knocking the little guy out left and right. Repossessions in the trucking industry are up 52% from a year ago and bankruptcies are up 37% from a year ago," said Frahm.
Frahm says he hopes to take the issue to Congress by forming a new advocacy group. He says this is as much about small businesses as it is truckers.
Republican Governor Mike Rounds has agreed to address the group at a rally.


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Post # 700: Mets power past the Phils as Kyle Kendrick loses his first start, 9-1.
The Mets come to Citizens Bank Park and put on a power display as they crush the still struggling Phils, 9-1, as they hand Kyle Kendrick his first official decision.
The Mets took the lead in the second as, with one man on base, and with nobody out, David Wright hits a two-run bomb, his fourth home run of the season, as he scored Jason Bay, who had earlier doubled, giving the Mets a 2-0 lead. Two batters later, with one man out, Jeff Francoeur increased the Mets's lead to 3-0 as he hits a solo home run, his fourth home run of the year. The Phils would get a run back in their half of the second as, with runners on the corners, and with one man out, Carlos Ruiz hits an RBI single, knocking in Jayson Werth, who had earlier singled and then went to third on Juan Castro's single, cutting the Mets' lead to 3-1, while sending Castro, who had just singled, up to second base. But, the Mets' offense would do the scoring for the rest of the night. The Mets increased their lead in the fifth as Rod Barajas hurt the Phils again as he hits a lead-off home run, his fourth home run of the year, to give the Mets a 4-1 lead. The Mets then broke the game open in the seventh. With a runner on second, and with nobody out, Barajas hits an RBI double, knocking in Francoeur, who had earlier been hit by a pitch, and then stole second, giving the Mets a 5-1 lead. Two batters later, with runners on the corners, and with still no outs, Angel Pagan hits a two-run triple, scoring Barajas, who had gone to third on Danys Baez's wild pitch, and Mets' starter Jon Niese, who had earlier walked, to give the Mets a 7-1 lead. Then two batters later, with one man out, Jose Reyes made it 8-1 with an RBI single, knocking in Pagan. In the ninth, the Mets made it 9-1 as Barajas welcomed Brad Lidge with a lead-off home run, his fifth home run of the season and his second home run of the game. That would be the final score as the Phils went down weakly in their half of the ninth.
Kyle Kendrick took the lost as he pitches five innings, giving up four runs on five hard hits, all for extra-bases, and one walk, while striking out three. His record is now 0-1 with a 7.61 ERA. Danys Baez pitches one inning plus four batters, giving up four run on two hard hits, both for extra-bases and a walk. David Herndon pitches two innings, giving up no runs on a hit. Brad Lidge pitches a third of an inning, giving up a run on two hits. J.C. Romero pitches two-thirds of an inning, getting out both men that he would face. Jon Niese gets the win as he goes seven innings, giving up a run on four hits and a walk, while he strikes out seven. His record is now 1-1 with a 3.10 ERA. Je Mejia and Manny Acosta combine for two shut out innings, giving up just two hits (one each) and a walk (Acosta), while striking out one (Mejia).
The Phils were only able to get six hits in the game, all singles. Jayson Werth lead the club with two hits, followed by Shane Victorino, Raul Ibanez, Juan Castro and Carlos Ruiz, with Ruiz knocking in the only Phil run.
The Phils (12-9, 3rd) continue their three-game series with the Mets (14-9, 1st). The game will be played at Citizens Bank Park and will start at 3:05 pm Eastern. The game will be televised nationally on Fox. The Phils will send their ace Roy Halladay (4-1, 1.80), to the mound after having suffered his first lost of the seasons on April 26 at the hands of the Giants, as he went seven innings, giving up five runs on ten hits, while he struck out five, in the Phils' 5-1 lost. He will be trying to get back on the winning track, while trying to put the Phils back on the winning track. He will be opposed by Mike Pelfrey (4-0, 0.69), who is coming off a win against the Braves on April 25, as he pitched five inning, giving up no runs on five hits and five walks, while striking out three, in the Mets' 1-0 win. He will be trying to continue his scoreless streak. The Phils will be trying to start off the month of May on a good note, after ending April with a winning record.


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CHICAGO - New research suggests the number of injuries to children and teens from falling out windows means it's not just an urban high-rise issue.
The research found that many children fall from first- and second-story windows.
More than 5,000 U.S. children and teens are injured each year in falls from windows, according to a study appearing Monday in the journal Pediatrics. It's the first nationally representative study of such injuries.
Dr. Gary Smith of Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio says preschoolers are at the highest risk and they suffer more head injuries than older children. The study's senior author also says that's because they are mobile, curious and don't recognize the danger.
Fewer than 1 percent of the cases led to deaths, but the researchers say the tally could be low.
The average yearly injury rate was about 7 injuries per 100,000 children.
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