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We misanthropes really should get together some time, like a convention or something...we can drink a bunch of beer and I can tell you what fags you all are.
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I've been thinking a lot lately about what the "no particular reason" is, and I think I'm starting to figure it out.
It's attention. Attention you're giving the game, and not them. Compared to any other media type, nothing can grab and hold someone's attention like playing a video game. It feels like a competition they can't win, and that makes them resent the game. John Stossel was put off by it in 1988:
Watching the kids play, seeing the intensity of their interest, the word "obsession" comes to mind. [quote at 7:40 in above video]
22 years later, everybody's girlfriend still has the same basic problem with it.
I think you have the basic narrative about right. Gaming won't be accepted until gamers are the taste makers / power brokers in society.
Fighting zombie executives would be pretty ironic considering nerds have created thousands of them by being the most loyal, easily manipulated consumers in the history of the world.
No more heroes? You're an Otaku in that. Although the character doesn't really conform to the stereotype.
I'd like to see a video game where you play a character who is the gamer stereotype.
Well, there's this book series, you see, about a guy names Scott Pilgrim, and they turned it into a game...
No, Scott Pilgrim is the stereotype some gamers think other gamers not-so-secretly wish they were.
What Gnostici described is much closer to what the stereotype of gamers actually is.
Thank you for the good read. I always enjoy reading your comments, they are long, thought provoking and interesting.
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Blast from the past, man. (I wasn't even born...) I think it's funny how well Stossel nailed in on the head, at least for games of that era: 1) Being worried about violence is unfounded because the worlds and visuals of the time were even farther removed from reality than cartoons and movies (which I'm sure some people still had their panties in a bunch over, but still), and 2) Games ARE more engaging than passive forms of entertainment because you're controlling the action; this is its advantage over the aforementioned (especially when you consider that we found out a few years later that playing video games actually INCREASED dexterity).
Now, if only I could send this comment back to 1988, it'd be ground-breaking instead of old-hat...
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Lovers gonna love,
I don't even want,
None of the above,
I want to piss on you.
I pray this will always be the response to someone saying "haters gonna hate".
I'm not a "Gamer" I just happen to play games, just the same as I watch movies and read books but don't consider myself a "Movier" or a "Booker"
When I was growing up, my parents always kind of looked down on video gaming as my pastime. So much so that I didn't readily admit to it when meeting new people until recently. Now I realize that all of the prejudiced thought is really just in my head, and most people are totally fine with it, hopefully it doesn't hurt me in a professional setting, but if it does, then it just means I'm going to have to work to change everybody's perceptions of what a gamer is, which is worth it.
It should not hurt you in a professional environment. If you perceive the environment you may work in as hostile to your past-time interests, do not bring them up. Pretty simple.
However, nobody in a professional environment should tell you what you can or can not do after you've finished work. That's almost grounds for a lawsuit.
Well, partly because that's illegal. It might not be right that it's in their explicit purview to look out for that kind of stuff, but on the other hand, I'd expect your boss would call the police if he found a severed head in your desk drawer or something.
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"However, nobody in a professional environment should tell you what you can or can not do after you've finished work. That's almost grounds for a lawsuit."
I agreed with your first part..
ehh, i'll just let it slide
If they fire you because you are a gamer? Should you just let it slide? Im fairly certain that is what he is referring to.
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I am currently unemployed and have been sent on course from the job centre on learning interview techniques and CV guidance. I had a nice little argument with the woman that ran the course when she said that I should not put down "gaming" on the section that said interests and hobbies.
Her argument was that it would put people off. My argument was that it showed a good sense of team work, communication, and an ability to work with new people very easily. If I can work together with random people I have just met, organise strategies to overcome unforeseen problems and resolve conflict on the fly, then I can work with anyone I meet on the job.
I also pointed out that 99% of people I have ever worked with spent at least 3 hours a night watching soaps and other TV shows while sitting there staring at a screen, and nobody seemed to have a problem with this.
Her only argument was that a lot of employers don't hire or promote the person who is good for the job, they hire or promote the person who fits in with the current work force, as in, someone who also sits there for hours a night watching TV and then gossiping about it the next day at work.
From my own experience I have seen this to be true. The smart guy who works hard and does all the right things will often get nowhere, while the guy who has similar interests to the person in charge will advance.
Your resume really shouldn't have a hobbies and interests section. It only goes on there if you don't have enough relevant employment history and need to fill in some space.
In that scenario (just filling space), you're much better off leaving the space blank than mentioning gaming. The professional you hired to review your CV is correct: gaming will get negative reactions. I've even known people applying for positions in the gaming industry that received flak for helping to create award winning games.
It's great that you can rationally defend it, compare it to TV and all that jazz, but you can't do that with prospective employers and they wouldn't care if you did (except to make them want even more distance from you). Just don't include it.
You may see it that way, but I can guarantee you that the majority of people who will ever read your resume will read it as "lazy and easily distracted". She was right.
As Shim says above, keep it to yourself until you're certain it's appropriate; being known as a gamer can definitely hurt you in getting a job or promotion. No one in any field will fire you for your hobbies, but the stigma can linger in stodgier fields or companies.
When I was younger my mother (single parent) did as well, yet she still supported my habit which amazes me. I guess she preferred that to me "acting out" like my brother (who straightened up eventually).
Now she plays more games than I do. Loves WoW. Can't wait for the new Zelda and next Elder Scrolls.
Are you talking about the people who call themselves gamers? Most piss me off too and I have to share a computing class with a few of them, most the ones I know off only talk about memes, 4chan and games irl and I keep wanting to shout 'STOP TAKING ABOUT RICKROLLING/BOXY/LOLCATS/ECT ALL THE FUCKING TIME. MOST YOU REFER TO ARE OUT OF DATE ANYWAY. SAVE IT FOR THE INTERNET, THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGS.'
But yes I play games and am not a fucking gamer.
I feel exactly this way about the dorks who buy trollface soap or print out little keanus and put them on everything.
Now that would be funny.
Apparently, It smells like peppermint.
That is incredibly disappointing. I was hoping it was carved in a trollface, not just a decal.
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Glad I'm not the only one who can't stand that. A lot of gamers just overdue it trying to be "cool" in the geek sense. I just imagine 2 frat douches talking to each other.
"hey, broski, i'm dressed like a pirate!"
"Well I'm dressed like a ninja, bromosexual!"
"That's what's up! Too bad we can't combine into a NINJA PIRATE!"
"Fuck ya, we're awesome! Let's go talk about magic the gathering for 8 hours straight"
If they overdue it, just tell 'em, "Hey! Blockbuster told you to return those games after 5 days! Now your punk ass has a late fee!"
They just got served.
They just want to be a part of something, to belong, to contribute to something greater than themselves. Why do you want to ruin their fun? They aren't as "hip" as you are. "Out of date", pffft. So the fuck what?! The very people you mock come up with those stupid memes through their own ignorance. Don't take that away from them, or from me...
tl;dr - leave the stupid alone.
contribute to something greater than themselves.
That's the problem though. They aren't contributing to anything. They're taking all the clever little bits that come with the culture (memes for example) and whoring them out until they aren't funny and just plain infuriating.
Hell i guess you could say that they are contributing to the constant and continuous need for new memes.
That isn't anything new. Need I remind you of such memes as "Where's the beef?"
People have been mimicking things forever. Internet memes are just the next step. Take Monty Python quotes for example. People have been quoting them for years over and over again. You better believe that I don't find another "wing speed" comment funny anymore.
This isn't a gamer or Internet person thing. It's a human thing. For as long as there is culture there is going to be people that mimic and parrot that culture. That's just the way it is.
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I think the problem the parent poster is expressing has more to do with the voluntary erosion of individuality than the choice of group.
(Although, I can understand frustration when people talk about 4chan as if it actually matters.)
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I get annoyed by this, too, but then I realize that I do it to. And why should I stop? For the people who get it and don't immediately "Respect Downvote" me when I drop a meme, it's a good way to ease through lulls in conversation that would become the obligatory Nerd Conversation Awkward Silence. And it's not like "normal people" don't do the same thing with TV show catchphrases and shit.
Every time you inner-criticize someone for something dorky they do, look inside yourself and ask, "Am I without sin? Shall I cast the first "MAGIC MISSILE!'?"
For a second there, I thought you misspelled "lulz". Then I remembered "lulls" is actually an English word. Maybe I should turn off my computer.
I was going to use that word, actually... Then I thought better of it.
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i had my last console so long ago... i don't think you even know what the system is nevermind.
Can't we go one thread without someone dropping the hipster comment? Do we need to revise Godwin's law?
lol how does my last console make me a hipster? I just moved onto pc games.
You've missed out on a lot of great games if you don't play console games.
Vinyl? Really? Just seems a bit... commercial and unauthentic.
I made my last gaming machine myself from unique pieces I found at the thrift store. It only plays one game, and that's spacewar.
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I just wait until they come out for PC.
And if they don't, I'll just wait until I can emulate your console.
Hey look at that, we're at PS1/PS2 level already!
As have you if you've only been playing console games.
(which you didn't necessarily imply but I'm going to assume anyways)
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Hardly. I'd rather deal with annoying kids who are at least enjoying their hobby than bitter old PC Gamers who feel the need to complain about everything at all times.
I consider myself a gamer as it does still take up most of my free time, but I agree, most of my fellow gamers are pretty disagreeable.
It seems that many of them are completely oblivious of the social consequences of their attitudes. This can range from anything to Xbox Live homophobia/racism (not limited to Xbox Live, mind you), their blatantly awful views on women, and their blind worship of realistic violence as somehow being "mature" or "grown-up" in any fashion, which tends to make them believe that it's not worth criticizing every now and then. It's not like I believe that realistic violence shouldn't be in videogames, because even I enjoy it as a stylistic device, but some gamers tend to freak out when someone questions it -- as if the violence alone validates gaming as a "grown-up" activity.
Gamers tend to just lack education about people... I don't mean grade school, college, etc... They just don't get how people actually work. Some of them live pretty messed up lives that might fuel that kind of ignorance, but many of them just plain have no excuse. When I was in my mid-teens, I'll admit I was the type of gamer that I dislike, but many of the ones like that are in their early to mid-20's now and still not getting it.
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It's a really good article. She makes the important point that it's really just lazy and useless to focus so much on the audience, and she does it in a way that is nuanced and thoughtful.
At the same time, saying that gamers are hated for "no particular reason" isn't entirely accurate. There are plenty of good reasons to hate gamers, and as someone who loves video games my biggest irritation is the indignant persecution complex shared by so many fans of the so-called "low art" mediums (comic books, anime, etc.). I doubt that the reviews of Twilight were particularly kind to its audience either.
I doubt that the reviews of Twilight were particularly kind to its audience either.
The difference is that no one said that all film is not art because of Twilight. They make that argument for video games. You mentioned genres and compared it to an individual movie, implying that they are equal, when it just illustrates how ridiculous it is to claim that there isn't a difference between how the two are perceived. Twilight is considered to be more artful than video games by many solely because of the medium, despite it being little more than a wildly profitable exercise in professional fan-fiction.
Hating gamers as a group has nothing at all to do with whether or not video games are art. You're kind of proving my point - there's no reason at all to get mad (or even bring up) that some senile film critic said that video games can't be art, but for whatever reason you feel unfairly persecuted when people don't think that your hobby should be on display in a museum.
Also, good luck finding anyone who thinks that Twilight is "more artful" than anything.
If someone wants to argue that LOLcats can be used as a valid artistic medium I'm open to the idea, but I can't really get all indignant that most people would disagree. You're mad that people can't see the supposedly self-evident fact that video games are high art, but I really don't think it's particularly shocking or unfair that the average person can't see Madden or Counterstrike as a vehicle for complex artistic expression. Hell, most people don't even think that well known works of modern art are "real" art.
there's no reason at all to get mad (or even bring up) that some senile film critic said that video games can't be art
Actually, there's a very good reason, but not because of Roger Ebert. The Supreme Court, in Schwarzenegger v. EMA/ Entertainment Software Association, will be making a first amendment call on whether video games deserve the same protections as film. Many states have passed laws banning sales to minors, as punishable by fines or jail time in some cases.
Part of this whole debate centers around pushing the issue that videogames are protected speech (if not art). If the SCOTUS sides with the California legislature, it will essentially place us in the same territory as Australia, where videogames are no longer protected forms of expression and subject to regulation and repression.
So yes, I do get mad when people try to marginalize videogames because now there could be real world consequences for it.
Reactionary censorship is always stupid. It was stupid when people thought that Dungeons & Dragons was promoting human sacrifice, it was stupid when fundamentalists tried to convince parents that rock music would make kids worship the devil, and it remains stupid when Conan the Barbarian tries to pretend that virtual violence is going to make our kids into little psychopaths.
What I find so absurd is the weirdly prevalent attitude that gamers are a repressed minority, silently suffering unspeakable indignities at the hands of a cruel and ignorant public. Remember the headline - people "still hate gamers." You can find this attitude in a lot of subcultures, but there's something weirdly amusing to me about a bunch of (largely) privileged white guys identifying so strongly with their hobby that they call themselves "gamers" and act offended that nobody else can respect their choice to dedicate their lives to the noble and dignified art of the video game.
Like the quote popularly attributed to Voltaire says: I may think they're a bunch of whiny babies, but I'll defend to the death their right to play World of Warcraft for so long that they end up having to urinate in a two liter Mountain Dew bottle.
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Most people don't give a damn either way about what art is and isn't. They are too busy enjoying themselves to worry about what is art.
I don't think you can compare LOLcats and videogames as they pertain to art in any fair way. There's a lot of LOLcats out there like that cat who jumps out of the box really fast (does that count?) or that cat who wants a cheeseburger, and there's a lot of videogames like Madden as you stated. The difference is that those lots of videogames also include games with storylines, such as Chrono Trigger, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Final Fantasy Tactics etc. and at that point the game transcends just being a game and becomes a story as well.
This goes back to senile film critics too: If in this day and age you can't see that video games are art, then you quite frankly aren't looking hard enough.
I'm just impressed to see an actual conversation on reddit. It feels like it has been ages.
I thought the article was wonderfully written regardless of what art is. But these film critics aren't senile, just afraid as she suggests. This is the way it plays out:
"This isn't a movie, No Country for Old Men, now THAT was a movie!"
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"No Country for Old Men isn't a movie, Silence of the Lambs, now THAT was a movie!"
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"Silence of the Lambs isn't a movie, Easy Rider, now THAT was a movie!"
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"Easy Rider . . ., Ben Hur, now THAT was a movie!"
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"Ben Hur . . ., Casablanca . . ."
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"Casablanca . . ., All Quiet on the Western Front . . ."
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"All Quiet on the Western Front . . ., [Movie without sound] . . ."
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"[Movie without sound] . . .,[pictures]. . ."
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[pictures]. . ., [book] . . ."
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[book] . . ., [orally told story] . . ."
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"[orally told story] . . ., [earliest form of human communication]"
See its been this way since the apes. Well that got serious...
I agree with you... the earliest form of communcation was 90 years ago!
You're right, but this turned into a conversation about mediums vs. mediums, as in the statement "Movies can always have the potential to be art whereas video games cannot be art". Some people, as heyseriously said, consider video games to be self-evident art. My argument is that a lot of them are art, and a lot of them aren't, as with movies. Madden, in my opinion, isn't art. Final Fantasy XIII (which I hated) is art because just like a book, movie, or orally told story, it has a story, a protagonist and antagonist, and contributes something to the right brain processes or imagination.
My last sentence sounds dumb but I think you get what I mean.
Why does art have to have an inherent narrative? The Sims has so much to say about consumerism and virtual life and doesn't force a narrative. In fact, personally, I think that games are better when they aren't trying to emulate movies. Stories on rails are what movies and books do well, games are interactive and should emphasize that unique characteristic of the medium. Much like some of the best movies are masterfully edited, since editing is what is unique to movies as an artistic medium.
Why does art have to have an inherent narrative?
It doesn't. But a large number of the existing forms of expression that we term, without argument, as art, DO have some form of narrative. Games are art in new ways that we are still trying to define succinctly, but they are also art in that one of their oft-included elements is itself already understood to be art.
Art falls into aesthetics, and aesthetics is a branch of philosophy. I'm afraid we cannot discuss philosophy since I have just learned that it is a navel-gazing waste of time as a pursuit. I would cry about this, but that would just be semiotics. Oh crap, this message itself is semiotics.
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But a large number of the existing forms of expression that we term, without argument, as art, DO have some form of narrative
Another large number constitutes all the art that doesn't have narrative.
The photographer killed herself, so you know it's "deep."
(a bunch of music videos)
("avant garde" experimental films)
Also, this dude got published with this paper as an undergrad, which is pretty impressive. You, as a gamer, should enjoy it. (sincerely)
Games are art in new ways that we are still trying to define succinctly
Namely, how gameplay interacts with the other, traditional elements to create an experience that deepens one's understanding of life.
tl;dr I already addressed that.
Also, that paper was written almost a decade ago. We've since seen several games that used gameplay elements to convey a sort of non-linear narrative (i.e., your actual actions as a whole have meaning beyond the game's inner narrative and logic). I'll have to read the whole thing when it's not 2 AM, but my initial suspicion is that the guy's already been proven wrong, or that his logic was flawed to begin with (though, of course, my assertion will be brushed off with a, "Yeah but he's published and you're not.").
To clarify what I said about art - I meant that art is independent of medium. There's nothing preventing a LOLcat from being art, and there's nothing preventing a video game from being art.
I am of the opinion that most video games aren't art, but it definitely doesn't mean that somehow aren't capable of it.
I hate to get into this territory, but I also think it takes a lot more than a story to make something "art" - Twilight has a story, but nobody calls it "art," and it's not just because the story is terrible or boring or whatever. Paintings, performance art, photographs, etc. all frequently lack a coherent story, but nobody would ever claim that this keeps them from being art.
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Not all art is equal. Bazooka Joe comics do not have the same artistic merit as the Sistine Chapel, and not just because of the size difference. Granted, it's all subjective, but I don't think you'll find many (reasonable) people who think X-Force has more artistic worth than Macbeth.
IMO, video games (or the medium of interactive entertainment) have the potential to be viewed as art, but nothing I've ever played has reached the level of artistic merit as a really good book, movie, painting, or poem. Most seem to top out around the level of paint-by-numbers/choose-your-own-adventure-story/SyFy original programming.
The article isn't talking about video games, it's talking about one movie that happens to appeal to gamers. Many reviews of Scott Pilgrim focus on the audience, just as many reviews of Twilight focus on it's audience. Both are equally lazy and useless.
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persecution complex
evidence of this: reddit article with 83 points in 2 hours, entitled "Reminder: A lot of people still hate gamers for no particular reason."
When somebody makes a huge relativistic statement like this, I always wonder if they apply relativism to relativism itself.
Meta? Yes. Redundant? No. If one is a relativist, then they are absolute about relativism, which is a contradiction.
It is not redundant because there was nothing you could omit from my original statement without changing the meaning. It was meta because it is applying something to itself.
You said beauty is in the eye of the beholder, which is a relativistic claim. It essentially means that I can say that women with green teeth and severe acne turn me on and who are you to say I am wrong? You may think that women with linebacker shoulders and bed sores are pretty and who am I to say otherwise?
This is relativism, to believe that different perspectives are equally valid and people can have separate truths. But if you firmly believe this to be true, then you are absolutist about something. You believe absolutely that things are relative. This is a contradiction. It also means that if I say "you're absolutely wrong, beauty is something that I know and have a clear definition of!" then I must be right, because that is my truth and is just as valid. But that truth cannot coexist with your truth.
I'm (absolutely? relatively?) sure I explained this poorly. This guy probably explains it better: http://www.greaterthings.com/Ridenhour/general/absolute_relative.htm
In the end however, it was just a small comment that I didn't mean to blow up into a huge wall of text for you. Sorry.
I stopped reading movie reviews. The reviewers seem out of touch with the movies and those watching them. And they seem to waste no time bashing both with similar zeal. What is really strange is I'm just as old as many of the reviewers and I don't understand how they became so disconnected from the world around them? Example is Comic-Con: has anyone noticed how many celebrities go to it now? Year after year, many of the movie blockbusters are previewed at Comic-Con!
Part of that is being a "geek" is considered cool. And by "geek" i mean wearing black rimmed glasses, a shirt with a funny/ironic saying on it, a little scruff on the face. Or being a girl that likes to wear a sexy costume.
Just look at the programming G4 has that is geared to the "geek" and "gamer" crowd, while at the same time the Science Fiction Channel is now SyFy and people that play D&D are still chastised, but Madden and Fantasy Football are looked at as normal.
And as for Comic-Con, for the amount of money LoTR, Spider-man, X-men, etc made, it makes sense to try and pander to the "general" audience.
I read movie reviews to find out what they didn't like about it. If I don't care about what they didn't like, then I'm good to go.
Critic: "Terrible movie. Too many fart jokes and things exploding for no reason".
Me: Sold!
Critic: "Great movie! Explored the depths of humanity and relationship between..."
Me: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hating Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is perfectly fine. It's got a style; you sort of embrace it and dig it or you don't. But when there's too much effort given to tut-tutting the people you imagine to be enjoying it, or declaring and promising that only narrow categories of losers and non-life-havers and other stupid annoying hipsters could possibly be having a good time when you're not, it sounds pinched and ungenerous. And, not to put too fine a point on it, a little bit jealous and fearful of obsolescence.
This is the prose version of a money shot, right here.
For the record this movie is awesome, hoping to see it again in the next week or so.
Didn't anyone else think this paragraph applies perfectly to reddit? Always hating on hipsters and whatnot.
I don't judge Pabst Blue Ribbon poorly because hipsters like it; I judge it based on its own (lack of) quality. Sure, the hipsters annoy me, but that's a separate issue. If I were a beer critic, I would be remiss in basing my evaluation of the beer on the people who enjoy it.
Here's a question though: Could you say this stuff about, say, that Larry the Cable Guy movie? Could you say "I hated it, but the slack-jawed yokels watching it seemed to enjoy it"?
Absolutely. She's not saying you shouldn't criticize the movie because some people like it, she's saying criticize the content of the movie, not the people who like it despite the flaws you point out.
There are so many things very, very wrong with Delta Farce (for example) that you don't need to refer to the people who like it, that's not the role of a critic.
Yes, I would say the logic still applies. Both groups are enjoying entertainment that doesn't have universal appeal.
That's not what was said though, what was said was "I hated this movie BECAUSE slack-jawed yokels enjoyed it." At that point you aren't judging the movie on its merits, you're judging it based on your opinion of the social class of people you estimate it to be targeting.
Actually it's kind of worse than that. What was said really was "This movie was bad because slack-jawed yokels enjoyed it."
The movie really does pay justice to the comic book. Reading the comic book first (My first ever comic book) showed me a different side of the movie and the story. The book deals a lot more with Scott and his relationships (as well as his past). It also was a lot more serious. There were numerous times throughout the books that were silly and meant to be comical, but not the entire book series. That was what the entire movie was. It took all of that and cut the rest. The movie captures the books in their simplest form, and that's what puts them above Larry the Cable Guy.
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Fun fact: I didn't see the name of the author and read the entire article in the voice of Andy Rooney. When I hit the bottom, I didn't know what to do. So I imagined Andy Rooney still talking but this time wearing a dress... My mind is broken in so many ways.
Reminder: A lot of people who mocked geeks in school now consider themselves gamers because they own a 360 and use facebook.
Real conversation at college:
Oh, you're into games, me too!
Yeah? What's your favorite genre?
I was upset after reading this and then read it again and realized you asked what their favorite GENRE was and not game. Now I'm even more upset.
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Her comment re: Dinner For Shmucks - "I hated it like it kicked my dog and sent me an invoice." I am soooo stealing that.
Well, I wouldn't say for NO particular reason. http://www.cracked.com/article_18571_5-reasons-its-still-not-cool-to-admit-youre-gamer.html
Sure it's cracked, but it does kinda give a little bit of a nice summary of why gaming is still easy to hate.
Everytime someone posts a cracked link, the next sentence follows up with "Sure it's cracked but..."
Cracked is hilarious and on occasion informative/thought provoking. I really donno why people think it's such a shame to reference it. Well other than the whole thing with the word "dong."
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How come nobody is talking about the comic book side of this? Sure its a shout out to gamers but i thought that the way they made this movie literally straight from the pages of a comic was very cool.
Honestly, it was an amazing translation from comic to movie. Best I've seen, in fact. That said: Most people walking into the theatre probably won't know that, and they wont care. If a movie can't stand on it's own merits it's going to fail.
Seriously though, this is just what happens when you involve Canadians in the production of your media.
Dude, after I saw the first trailer I was really surprised how well they adapted the movie- I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard absolutely nothing but good reviews from my friends.
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Flashing lights, cute girls, decently funny, hilarious action.
The movie itself is decently funny, the action is hilarious.
But how will we ever know if a movie is good or not without the opinion of a critic?
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Michael Cera's performance is "irritating" in part because of "the non-stop Pavlovian laugh track provided by the audience at the screening I attended."
I had to do a double take on this part... Really? Fucking really?
The saddest thing is that I see gamers insulting themselves all the time. Every time I see pro gaming mentioned on gaming sites, the comments are full of gamers gushing at how stupid and ridiculous the notion of professional gaming is. It's not just pro gaming either; If anyone has a moderately high gamerscore or plays WoW, they must be a fat, lazy, no-life loser according to their own community. You play Guitar Hero on expert? "First of all, learn Realtar, ok!?...and next, get a life."
Once we get past ourselves as a hurdle, then maybe we can worry about the gamer image on the grander scale. I mean, these games are selling in the tens of millions of copies, but there are still millions who won't talk about their hobby for some fear of social ostracism or that they will look lame or something.
I think pro gaming is silly, but then I think that about all spectator sports.
I'd love to hear your position on that fleshed out a little more.
I'm a gamer, I hate this movie. I also hate people with mario shirts and those who have to tell me how awesome their guilds raid was.
I must be the worst kind of person.
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The way I came out of Scott Pilgrim was comparing it to something like Wayne's World. It panders to what is a popular type of people at the time (heck it even has the same basic plot: a dude in a band fighting a corporate monster for the girl of his dreams), but in the end it still remained a timeless classic. With Scott Pilgrim, only time will tell. I thought it had some pretty funny parts. The vegan police had me cracking up
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You sure they hate gamers? Maybe they just hate Michael Cerra fans.
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I doubt it will be nearly as good as Grandma's Boy which is the best gamer movie ever.
This is a great article, but nobody who needs to read it will see it. And if they do, they won't care.
You have to understand, these people went through something traumatic. So like how sometimes female rape victims become afraid of men, people who viewed this movie, the cinematic equivalent of being raped, begin to hate idiots that happen to label themselves "gamer"
maybe in 30 or so years once the rest of the population that isn't in touch dies off?
people hate whats different. And in order to avoid being thought of as different, some feel the need to hate on those who are different.
The cycle of stupidity goes ever on.
It's a good article overall, but parts of it are a bit overly-sensitive (yes, I realize she doesn't consider herself a gamer).
The review in the St. Petersburg Times begins, "First of all, I'm not a video gamer. I have discovered more appealing ways to not have a life."
This is a self-deprecating joke. Sure, maybe it wasn't worded particularly well, but he's saying that he doesn't have a life. It's a joke. A joke that is as much at his own expense as it is at the expense of gamers.
The New York Observer sniffs that the film is "clearly directed at an audience with generational ADD."
Isn't this just flat-out true? I quite liked the movie, but if ever there were a movie aimed at people with ADD, this is it. Half of the humour of the movie comes from the lightning-quick reactions that people have to various ridiculous situations (the same technique was used frequently, albeit to a lesser extent, in Shaun of the Dead).
There is no denying that we have 'generational ADD'. I have to agree with that.
It's scary to imagine myself in a pre-electricity world.
I disagree about the joke. Yes, it's a joke, but it's:
Not very funny, and
Manages to be both self-deprecating and insulting to a large group (i.e., gamers).
He's saying that gamers, by default, have no lives, which is a little pissy, in my opinion.
"clearly directed at an audience with generational ADD."
Is just the newest way of saying kids are lazy.
Every generation says that the one that comes after them is worthless and is going to ruin the world. The "greatest generation" (and really, who do you think named them that) thought it about the baby boomers, the baby boomers said it about generation X, and the gen Xers are saying it about us. I'd like to think that we're not going to treat the next generation this poorly, but I already find myself talking about "those damn 90's kids".
I suppose all I can hope for is that we hold onto our hipster sensibilities and only insult them ironically :(
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Misogyny, griefing, trolling, elitism, pseudo-asperger's syndrome.
There's five particular reasons right there.
Not that I'm saying ALL gamers suffer from these ills, but yeah, stereotypes exist for a reason.
I haven't seen it yet but I really want to. Unfortunately, I'm at Edinburgh Interactive Festival when it comes out. What are these preview screenings I've apparently been missing?
Did anyone ELSE catch the Flash Gordon reference? Max Von Sydow? I felt so out of place laughing during complete silence.
Yes. And it seemed like I was the only one who caught that in our showing as well. Everyone else seemed to be hung up on "OMG he said Final Fantasy! That too is a thing I recognize! This movie is sooo geeky roflcopter!"
Can someone explain to me what this movie has to do with video games? I've been reading about it everywhere! Game Informer, Gaming Reddit but I still can't figure out what the connection is. Is Scott Pilgrim a video gamer? Is it just the same audience as gamers and that's the connection?
Any help here is appreciated, thanks.
The story itself is a boy-meets-girl, coming-of-age type deal, but it's presented in a style that evokes old-school videogames. So the characters perform combos, they find extra lives floating around, they get into crazy kung-fu fights when they have arguments, and when the bad guys get defeated they explode into mounds of coins. It's meant to speak to a specific type of audience, one that grew up with these sorts of games, and it's this type of audience that the article is concerned with defending against ill-advised reviewers, who have made comments that are less about the movie than about the people watching the movie.
In so much as it has to do with "leveling up" and the crazy fight sequences. I personally think the movie (and comics) were mental masturbation for the gamer/geek/hipster crowd and some of the worst crap I have willingly subjected myself to.
Yeah, it certainly looks like the exact opposite of the sort of movies I like. Thanks for enlightening me.
It's the same reason I hate hipsters...
I don't get why you would buy a bike without brakes. I don't get what's ironic about drinking a specific brand of cheap beer. I don't get hating a band as soon as anyone else has heard of it. I don't get the point of wearing a used t-shirt with overpriced shoes.
I say I don't have any interest in these things but secretly I feel a little like I've been left out....like the reason I don't care is that I'm not clever or cool enough to get it. So it comforts me to resent those people...they're the inferior ones, not me!
I do however, get that Life of Brian reference that somebody makes off hand, but if I didn't it would be because they're a dork.
When QWCA (Quakeworld Clan Arena) died, so did my penchant for being a gamer.
I find that the scores on IMDB are far more in line with my own opinions of movies than any critic's reviews. So. Screw those guys.
Played games from Commodore 64, NES, SNES, Genesis, and so many more before Playstation and Xbox entered the picture. I've clocked more hours in video games than probably in sleeping (if not, it's damned close). I'm capable in Halo and CoD games, but they're the least passionate of games to me, Uncharted Waters: New Horizons for years and now Wurm Online steal away hours of my life every day.
And yet, I refuse to call myself a gamer.
Reminder: reddit still gives it's users a way to cultivate a victim and us and them complex.
Reminder: Most people couldnt tell you what a gamer is and nobody AT ALL, cares. This is not the same as hatred.
I think Scott Pilgrim is a great movie, but I am part of that 20s gamer-geek audience.
My mom also thoroughly enjoyed it. Probably because its jokes didn't rely on its geeky references and quirks to be funny.
These people honestly have no lives if all they do is review movies without taking the time to learn and understand the people who like it.
The New York Observer sniffs that the film is "clearly directed at an audience with generational ADD."
not only is it against Gamers, but it's biased to people with ADD.
I don't care much for Michael Cera (had to imdb him to know the name of the face) and I don't much like certain games that most gamers like (altough i consider my self a gamer) like world of warcraft.
and I see alot of movies that are complete trash that relay on certain continued love for a franchise (once a name gets good making a sequel ruines it many times) same with games and movies...
so taking an over do finishing of a too long series of a certain game and turning it into a mediocure movie (prince of persia, altough I enjoyed it, it was medioucre and the only reason they made it is the fan base of the game)
so what? I don't like the game I don't play the game, don't like the movie I don't watch the movie...
Yeah really, I agree people are way too overcritical and sadly it seems like this element is everywhere in the "gaming" world as well. Sheesh read gamefaqs.com or certain game blogs and you just see people tear apart simple parlor amusements :(
I think that's the "I'm not their target demographic? Well those people are dweebs/tards/outcasts/addicts/outliers anyway. I am of superior stock." syndrome.
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- Struggling Chinese stocks may cheer news of increased inclusion on a widely followed index
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Prominent Chinese videos sites vow to cap actors' pay amid tax evasion probe
The logo for Chinese streaming platform iQiyi Inc., is displayed on a screen during the company's initial public offering (IPO) at the Nasdaq Market Site in New York City, U.S., March 29, 2018. REUTERS/Brendan McDermid
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By Pei Li and Brenda Goh
BEIJING (Reuters) – China's three largest video sites iQiyi Inc, Youku and Tencent Video have pledged to cap actors' pay, as authorities ramp up their tax-evasion investigation into the country's $8.6 billion film industry.
Their pledge, made over the weekend, comes months after accusations surfaced that some of the country's most famous actors were signing "yin-yang" contracts – one contract setting out agreed payment terms and a second one with a lower figure for the tax authorities – to avoid paying taxes.
China's tax authorities launched investigations https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-tax-actors/china-launches-tax-evasion-probe-into-film-tv-industry-idUSKCN1J003K in June.
"We call on all production companies and streaming platforms to work together to create a healthy environment for the movie and TV industry, and boost its prosperous development," iQiyi, Alibaba-backed Youku, Tencent's video streaming service and six production firms said in a statement.
The nine companies have agreed to cap actors' pay at 40 percent of total production cost, with leading actors' pay not taking more than 70 percent of cost on all paychecks, the statement said. These levels are in line with what the Chinese government has suggested in the past.
Like Netflix, iQiyi, Youku and Tencent Video are increasingly making their own movies and TV series.
So-called "yin-yang" contracts — a widely used expression in China meaning real and fake agreements operating side-by-side — are commonplace across the country, featuring in every type of acquisition from real estate to football clubs.
The Capital Radio and TV Program Producers Association, in a statement on Sunday, vowed to blacklist anyone who evades tax, breaks contract, or signs a "yin-yang" contract.
It also vowed to lower the proportion of actor pay in a overall production cost.
According to Forbes China Celebrity List for 2017, the country's top earning celebrity was actress Fan Bingbing, who earned 300 million yuan ($43.64 million), followed by actor and singer Lu Han with 210 million yuan.
No Chinese actor or actress has been convicted of tax fraud under the latest investigation.
(Reporting by Pei Li and Brenda Goh; Editing by Himani Sarkar)


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Lankan team off to India
Wednesday, 29 October 2014 - 11:33
The Sri Lankan team departed to India last evening for the five ODI series after the West Indies team pulled out of the India series over a pay dispute with the WICB.
The tour was confirmed by the SLC after accepting the invitation made by BCCI.
The Sri Lankan Cricket team was engaged in fitness training while the tour was confirmed.
However the SL team will be able to try out different combinations for upcomming biggest event in February (2015 ICC World Cup in Australia and New Zealand)
The first ODI between the two teams are scheduled do be held on the 2nd of November in Cuttuck.
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