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Hi all Napro Girlies,I've been egged on to start this thread for the BFP'S from Napro. I got my BFP yesterday and am still in shock!! took my 11-12mths of charting to get this far. I would be nice to chat to other BFP'S and see how all are doing.
Thanks Hannasoph. This is the first signe of cm this cycle. My af only ended on cd 11 or 12. So this is a very messed up cycle.
boober, thanks for the congrats!I would say that if cbfm gave you peak on cd15 then that was ov time - did you get any corresponding fertile cm then? I often get a day or two of fertile cm later in cycle but not as much as at ov time..... unfort it can be a side affect of high oest, to add to the confusion!!however, to be on the safe side and if you and your dh are up for it (is he better?) maybe you should bd just in case..... on the off chance you are oving late and cbfm got it wrong day 21 is not too late..... a friend of mine (not on rc) just got her bfp after oving on cd64! I think she has pcos but just to show you long cycles aren't always detrimental to concieving:-)best of luckhx
Hannasoph a hugh congrats. Delighted for you and your dh. Sounds like your time away really helped.ddn so sorry to hear about your baby girl. It must be so hard for you. I can't imagine what it must be like. Rant all you want here, it is best to get what you are feeling out in the open.Well my head wrecking cycle is still continuing. Im cd 21 today. Yesterday and today I am getting 10kl. This morning there was load of it. I got a peak on day 15 with cb monitor and triggered that day. Did the deed only for two days. DH was sick. Should we bd again tonight or is it too late in the cycle. I am on Pregnyl 3,5,7 so that will lenghten my cycle a bit. I don't know what to do...
hi everyone,jeez time is flying, I cant believe you are 14wks already smd, and gillgalway 24wks, and joy 13wks!!!! I suppose its cause when ttc you spend so much time wishing time away, if that makes sense! Its fantastic that for all of ye things are going so well!Gillgalway, thats great your bleeding has stopped for now! at least if it starts up again later on you'll know what it is, i'd say looking back you spent the first few months with a high stress level until the polyp was identified! Joy and smd, thats brill your scans went so well, I really hope I get to that point, I think I will ball my eyes out and embarrass dh when I see little arms waving around! smd thanks for the pm!thanks everyone else for your congrats and best wishes, really appreciate it, you girls are all so amazing and I really do think Iwould have gone insane, or at least driven dh insane over the last 16months If I didnt have you lot to rant to and moan to:-)dnn, It must be so tough on you to see your neighbour being so casual in her pregnancy, esp when you've been through what you've been through you poor thing. I suppose you have to remember that she still has the innocence that comes with having 3 healthy babies and not having an m/c, or losing a new born. Still I understand how it must be really tough for you to watch her. I hope you dont have long to wait for your bfp xxtaormina, tbh I conviniently forgot to renew my script for ldn when I went on holiday and can honestly say that once i ran out I have not noticed a single difference in my sleep patterns, moods or anything else! And I had no side affects so even if bfp hadn't happened I wasnt going to go back on it. I'm sure you'll do fine without it:-)hi also to tashtash, chicago, dollhouse and apologies to anyone I've forgotten!h x
Hi Ladies,Hope you are all ok!A big warm congrats to Hannasoph!!!!! You must be so happy, wishing you the very best throughout your pregnancy!!!Thanks Tarmina/Fleury for advice on the trigger. But I know I may reck everybody's head but I still can't figure out when to use the injection! I am on CD 10 now should I wait until I get a smiley face and then take the trigger? As Tarmina said doesn't taking the trigger cause the smiley face? I don't know only Dr. Boyle has circled CD 13/14 to use trigger.LDN I am going to start the higher does even thou I have been off it weeks. I mean what harm can it do?? Oh I don't know fed up with everything really.....I am going to have a bit of a bitch now ladies hope you all don't mind....... Well my neighbour next door "not the nicest lady" came of the pill a few years ago and got pregnant 1st month. There I was trying for years was just about to start IVF when I found out I was pregnant with my son now who is now 3. She then found out she was pregnant again and a couple of months later I also found out I was pregnant " miscarried at 13 weeks" it used to break my heart watching her most days with her double buggy, then I found out I was pregnant with my daughter was as happy as ever to be going around with my bump always took it easy but somehow went into early labour and lost my baby girl at 2 days old.She "my neighbour" is pregnant again and due in late Oct. I watch her from my window sometimes having her boy & girl run to her while she throws them up in the air and swings them about. I feel well if I ever get pregnant again I won't be allow fart "sorry" well I have to have a stitch put in and may need bed rest. I don't want to make it sound that I wish her or anybody wrong but I just feel every day I see her I get kicked in the stomach..... I guess I just miss my baby girl and I am so upset and angry with everything! I think the only thing that keeps me going is my job at times. I hope it all happens so for us soon and when it does that we can go on to have more children to love.....Baby dust to everyone x
Hi girls apologies for not being on for a while but I've been logging in constantly.Hannah so thrilled for you pet! Great news and what an amzing end to your holiday! Best of luck in getting to your 8 week scan which no doubt you will xxSmd great you are 14 weeks now and that all is looking well. I had 13 week scan yesterday and all is looking good thank God.Gillgalway good on your girl now at 24 weeks! Fingers crossed the bleeding will stay away now but at least you know what is causing it and oyu are being moiniored.Hi to everyone else! Just to say girls, to those of you who are struggling and wondering if its all worth it believe me it is. After 3 losses to see my little baby moving yesterday and to see arms and legs waving mad every pain, tear, injection, drug and that horrible diet (which I'm still on!!) it is all worth it. I firmly believe but for napro I wouldn't be where I am today.Sending baby dust to you all xxx
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Hannasoph Congratulations! Fabulous news. Many congrats to you and dh. Am really really thrilled for you lady! ;-) x Bops sorry to hear you are having such a rough time. I expected Napro to work 1st cycle cause I had tried everything else bar IVF and wen it didn't was devastated. IVF too certainly gets plenty of BFPs so hang in there. Am thinkin of u. xFeelin a lot better. Way more positive, improved diet and back exercising more regular. ldn did not agree wit me. (diahorrea, nausea). Hence poor energy levels and poor outlook! I am one of the 5% thats it doesn't suit. Dr B says its a shame as it does great things for endo. Feeling a whole lot better since I came off it. My friend got great results from it and swears by it. different strokes for different folks I guess! Def going to start using the cbfm after lap next month. Too late this cycle.Someone mentioned about trigger causing pos on opk. Yes it does. Dr B explained that to me recently you will get a pos on opk after taking the trigger. Hope this helps!Hi to all xxxxxxxxxxxx
Smd i found the hb every time but it takes a while to get used to the correct sound as the placenta makes noise too,you ll know it as its like a horses clip clop but very fast.At the beginning you find it very low on your belly practically above your vagina and with time it moves up.Mine was 30 on e bay called the angel monitor,so worthwhile.Id say sometimes its hard to find and you have to use a gel ,i used baby oil gel.
Hannah- HUGE CONGRATS to you and dh!!!!! I had a funny feeling about you last weekend, I am so delighted for you. I hope you have a lovely happy and healthy pregnancy :-))))Hi to everyone else!
Hi Bops, i really didn't expect you to reply as, i;m sure you were going through hell.Tashtash i 've heard of the doppler, are they really good? Do you always hear the heartbeat, or is there a chance you could miss it due to baby's position.? I would be really scared incase i missed it.Gillgalway its great to hear from you, i'm so glad the bleeding has stopped for now. hopefully for good. can't believe your 24 weeks already.Hope now you can enjoy it abit better.
Hannah I am so so happy for you. I had a really good feeling about you this month. Relaxation really does help and throwing caution to the wind as we do on hols is just so good for us all. The fact that the clearblue is saying 2-3 weeks is also great you are well on your way. I am just so happy for you. When is your due date?Girls I am so sorry to see that some of you are really going through it at the moment. Fleury just because you think someone else has more to cope with than yourselve doesn't diminish your own issues so be good to yourself.I have everything crossed for you all. Bops you are in my thoughts too I knwo it is way easier said than done but try and keep looking at the positive IVF stories because there are plenty.Hard to believe but I am 24 weeks now and the bleeding stopped about three weeks ago. There is a polyp there so that could flair up again but for the moment all is well.
Hannah a huge congrats thats amazing news im so happy for you,maybe cause were so relaxed and enjoying your hols that helped you .Smd thats great your 14 wk scan went great,i found i relaxed about 20 wks but i was so paranoid i bought a doppler so i listened to the hb every day and found it a great relief.When i use opk they were always positive and could be for a wk which cant be right so i thought it was from the meds.Its so hard to pinpoint your pre peak day.Iv nerer heard of intralipids or any of that treatment,is it for nkc?Bops hope your doing a bit better,i really feel for you.hope everyone else is doing well.
Hannah,Huge congrats to you - you give us all such hope.SMD123, So delighted to hear from you, I have to confess I have just remembered I got a PM from You?? in the last few weeks and didn't reply - I am so sorry , just got me on a bad day IYKWIM.Feeling a lot better now, it just takes time to re-adjust when all your dreams are shattered.Starting to make plans but will probably take a month or two out from charting & meds.I cannot believet hat you are 14 wks, I am so delighted for you, you were one of those old Naproettes who seemed to be there forever , a bit like myself. Enjoy every minute of your pregnancy - and keep us posted.Bops
Hi girls,Hannonsoph i'm so so delighted for you, a big congratulations to you. i pmed you last nite.Fleury, what can i say, i'm so so sorry your going through this again. Your such a strong person to keep going and you are getting closer to your long awaited sticky bfp.You sound very positive, which is just what is needed. Good luck with the new drugs. Sending all the baby dust down to galway. xxBops its good to hear your looking ahead, i'm so sorry your ivf didn't work, It really must be the hardest thing to go through. and you need to be such a strong person to keep going. Keep in touch and let us know your next step.Its been along time since i was on, its hard to keep up with everyone.Welcome to the newbies. everyone here is fantastic and without them i probably would have given up before now.Good luck girls. Its a long road, but when you get there it is fantastic and well worth it.Tashtash, Probaby, Bugsy, dollhouse, Taormina, boober2, i'm sure ive left a few out (i;m sorry) keep positive girls and sending you all babydust.Well i', 14wks yesturday, had a scan last friday, so all looking good, but every little niggle i always think the worst, i thought after the 12wk mark i would calm down abit.But anyway girls keep up all the good work and hang in there, miricles do happen. Oh Gillgalway, chicago and joy hope your all keeping well.
thanks porbaby:-)
huge congrats hannah thats mad - sun and no drugs and the cbfm ....i think that cbfm is lucky.Delighted for you - exactly what we need girls - a big bfp to cheer us all up.You go Hannah .......well done you........
hi everyone, how are ye all this fine evening (only joking, its dire here in Galway!!)bops, lovely to hear from you again and please dont feel like you dont belong anymore, cause of course you do! Sorry to hear you got bfn on your ivf cycle, but you sound positive. are you going to try again soon?Well girls, about me now....I've been trying to resist posting my good news for another few weeks but just cant keep it in any longer:-)I was on hols as you all know and went pretty much drug free in that I didnt take the femara or ldn this cycle. Anyway we got home last monday night and tues morning after nearly vomiting whilst trying to brush my teeth I did a preg test (12dpo) and got the shock of my life when I got an extremely faint BFP on an internet cheapie!!!tested everyday with internet cheapies til friday (15dpo) and the line was still so faint so used a FR on Fri and got a lovely dark second line (thanks so much for the lucky test Gilgalway!!)tested again this morning with CB dig and got the lovely words 'pregnant 2-3wks'. Was at gps earlier and got it confirmed and have scan with n@pro in sept (i'll be 8+5 if i get that far)We are over the moon and really really want to thank you lot for all your support over the last few months.... and the next few months too I think:-)fingers crossed this is a sticky bean, am trying not to get too excited, but its hard.gilgalway this was only my 2nd cycle with your lucky cbfm and I was relying on it for ov date this month as with all the swimming on hols I knew cm would be untrustworthy, so it played a major role in getting us the bfp!!! so huge thanks to you for passing it on! and I promise if/when I get to a relatively safe stage I will pass on the good luck to someone else that needs it:-)And my god, thanks to N@pro too, although I got hte bfp on an unstimulated cycle I firmly believe teh charting, and drug regime I was on kick started my natural cycles again so If I get to full term this will defo be another n@pro miracle!!hi to everyone else and sorry for the me me me post:-)hannansoph xjust read back teh post and I sound like an OSCAR winner, thanking everyone:0) haha!!
Fleury,thank you so much for taking the time to answer me.I had 2 infusions in S***. First one about a week before EC and the second within a week of transfer. I guess in " narural " cycle terms this would equate to about cd 7 and cd 21 or thereabouts.The intralipids comes in 100ml containers as far as I know but when one is opened nit has to be used within a few hours so this is why most clinics decide on a certain time/day of the week for doing them. For me I had 4ml of intralipids diluted with about 500ml of normal saline drip and it was infused over about half an hour. I hadn't had Chicago bloods done but some of the other girls had and any with with more serious AI problems had the 100ml intralipids in about 1 litre of saline which took about 2hrs +. It all went well , just remember to bring a book or an ipod esp if you're going to be doing it on your own.Cst was €260 for 4ml and €460 for 100ml.I believe point of care clinics can also give infusions as long as Dr prescribes, I am looking into this at the moment.(www.pointofcare.ie)I am delighted that Napro are looking beyond just prednisolone therapy , I might contact them and see what they have to say.Thanks again for all the info.Take care of yourself over the next few days.Bops
Hi everyone - thank you, all of you, for being so nice! I feel like I hardly deserve the sympathy - a friend of mine on our Roman thread is going through a very very rough time - and in comparison I feel like this is just par for the course. Maybe I am taking it all a bit too lightly, but I feel ok. Just waiting for the bleed to start, so that I start again, I have my new (ish!) cbfm all set, and my new drug regime, so really, I am looking forward to getting started again, its great to have a plan, it really gives you a boost, doesn't it.Hey Bops - course we remember you, and of course you are not intruding, you were here for long enough!! Dont be daft! I am so so sorry to hear that your first round of IVF didn't work out - it must be heartbreaking - devastating. Good on you for keeping the chin up, and looking to the future. I admire you (and my other friend on the Roman thread) and anyone else enduring IVF so much, it has to be the most stressful time in a couple's life. The more I know about it, the more sympathy I feel for people going through it. You are so brave, please God your courage and bravery will pay off really soon. Right, with regard to the Intralipids, I am afraid I can't answer too many questions yet, as I have to start/do it in about 3 weeks, I think. It is new to Galway, and new to Dr B. I think actually he is doing it this week for the first time!!! He can only "do" 2 people per day, and is only doing it one day a week at the moment, due to lack of space, and lack of staff I think, plus he probably only has the machinery to "do" one person at a time. I don't know how much it will cost (he couldn't tell me, but said he would be trying to keep the cost to a minimum). Normally, people would have to get the Chicago blood test done, before they do the Intralipids, but said that I would have to be in Dublin early on a morning, to arrange to have fresh blood delivered to London that day (I would imagine that would work out really expensive). He then said something about sending previous patients blood samples to London to be tested, and they all came back with evidence of the NKC (natural killer cells) or whatever, it was a bit unclear, and since then, he has decided just to go with it, where he thinks it is appropriate. In my case, as I keep miscarrying, he thinks that I am a suitable candidate. The funny thing is, this is something that my friend mentioned to me nearly 3 years ago, after I had my first miscarriage, she told me to get tested for nkc, but as I had had 3 kids already, I thought she was a bit cracked!! Turns out she may have been bang on.Sorry, rambling a bit there. That is all I know for the moment, but I will certainly keep you posted. Maybe you could call them, and see if you could have a review with him. Dr B is going between Dublin and Galway these days. He did say to me that it is a very similar drug regime to IVF, without the IVF bit!! Who knows...... but at this stage, I am willing to try everything and anything. I was just thrilled that he had another trick up his sleeve for me!Porbaby - thank you so much for your lovely thoughtful pm - I will get back to you.Bugsy, Dollhouse, Boober, Beeds, Toarmina, ddn amd TashTash - thank you all so much for the words of sympathy.Bugsy - what did you decide about the femara in the end? I do know what you mean about the drugs, especially if you feel that they are working against you. On the otherhand, I def would not be getting as far as I have without the femara, it has really helped (I am on 12 on Day 3)Boober - I would love to know the answer to that question too - re positive opk/peak on cbfm and whether there are actually any eggs at all. I would guess that the tests can only tell you that you are about to ovulate, not whether there are any eggs in the follicle or not - God, it is all so complicated, isn't it?Are you ok Dollhouse? It was nice to hear from you - you have been missed, Porbaby especially kept wishing you would come back and keep us all amused!!ddn - the Peak/Trigger thing would nearly drive one to drink!! It has been my major bone of contention since I started Napro, and I am still none the wiser really. I guess watching the cm, using opks/cbfm, and if you are very brave, cervix checking (or am I the only lunatic doing that?) I was the same as you, I was scanned on one cycle and was told to trigger on CD15 (though I had a negative opk that day) and since then I have been kinda triggering on cd15 - it really is a shot in the dark! I have now gotten my hands on a cbfm, and as Boober and the others have said, it is a better guide for helping with triggering, than the opks. Re the LDN - I was the same as you, started off on the lower dose, but then got a script for the higher dose, and just started straight onto that, without finishing off the other packet - I don't remember feeling any different. I also went off it when we were away last month (like Hannah - I just couldn't be bothered) and started back on it again when we came back, and didn't notice any difference. Hope this helps, and best of luck trying to figure out the whole Peak thing!Hi Ruffy, and welcome. It probably would do no harm at all to have a chat with a fertility practioner thingy - I too saw mine only twice I think, at the beginning. They are really nice, and do help a lot, especially if you feel a bit overwhelmed with everything. Sorry to hear about your struggle so far, it really is a tough, long and hard road.Taormina, you too sound a bit down, are you ok hon, are is it all getting a bit too much? Stupid question maybe. Don't worry about coming on here for a rant, or not, whatever you feel like.Right, hope I didn't forget anyone. How are you doing Gillgalway, by the way, and Chicago and all the other beanie-carriers?Chat to you all soon.
Hi bops i think i remember you from before,sorry about your recent bfn,best of luck in the future.the preseed is just called preseed ,google it,unicare and bradleys sell it i got 9 single use tubes for 22 e thought it was expensive i used to buy it online.I must check out the boots brand im sure its as good,isnt it.I really think its great stuff it worked for me ,im sure of it.
Girls,Excuse me for intruding but I was a Naproette untill a few months ago.I did an IVF cycle since but got a BFN a week ago.I am sort of in Limbo at the moment and had thought that I had done all that Napro has to offer untill I read the thread today.Fleury, I am so sorry for all your losses, you must be such a strong person to be able to pick yourself up each time. I really hope you get your BFP soon.I was really interested to see that Dr. B is organising intralipids for you. I had IL twice during my cycle with S***.I really thought it would help as I have anti-thyroid antibodies and endometriosis both of which are auto-immune related. I would love to hear how and where you will be having your treatment and how muh it will cost. Did you have chicago blood tests done???PM me if you prefer, I can understand if you don't want to post all the info on the thread.Thanks , Bops.
Hi ruffy,I didnt have a clue either so I found going to see a teacher before starting very useful! you pick it up really fast and its quite probable that you wont need to see the teacher again, unless you want her to double check things with you. I've seen my teacher twice, including the visit before i started with napro and I'd say that will be it!regarding the pre-seed, you can buy it cheapest on websites. I got it from amazon, if you buy a couple of packs, or a book or two as well (for after teh bding !lol!!) you get free delivery and its cheaper than any chemist here in ireland. However, if thats too much hassle, boots do their own version (called concieve plus) which I prefer actually and its about 18eur a tube but lasts for ages....best of luck hannansoph
HiThanks for your responses, I think I'll meet the teacher and see what she says. I'll have to say that I dont know my body at all so it could be fairly hard work for me. I dont get any pain or anything which tells me that I'm ovulating and I can never get the jist of the mucus so maybe I'll learn something that'll help me in the long run!Tashtash I'm wondering if you can give any more details about 'preseed'. I tried in both a health shop and a chemist but none knew what I was looking for. Do you have a brand name or anything else that will help me track it down.Thanks again...
Re the teacher practitioner i dont see one but when i first started napro i went about 3 times i think its a waste of money and if you know your body you dont need to see one.Can i just say to those who say they have no cm try preseed,its an artificial lube that allows sperm to live longer in the uterus and i swear by it,i got pregnant first time i used it.I started my ldn last wk and forgot to wean myself on as i did before and started on the stronger strength and i had no side effects i felt a little queasy thats all.Im on cd 2 so ill take my 7 femara tom hope your all well
Hi everyone, and welcome ruffy!sorry cant help you with the teachers query cause I live in the west.Best thing to do is speak with one of the teachers I think, she'll be able to fill you in on all the info. But in summary you learn how to chart your body rhythyms, especially cervical mucus throughout the month to establish your fertile times. you also get your bloods done monthly to establish hormone levels post ov and then every few months ( for me its 3-4times a year) you meet with one of hte napro docs who will read over your charts and decide a drug regime which will improve your chances of concieving. The bloods then are important to keep check that the drugs are doing what they are meant to be doing.... You are scanned also around ov time to check egg size and to confirm ov etc. and if you get preg they attempt to improve your chances of staying preg by again monitoring bloods and offering drug support to maintain the preg. Napro works for me but like all fertility treatments there are people that would recommend it and others that would slate it, but the same goes for ivf, iui and every other treatment out there!good luck in your decision...hannansoph
Hi all,I haven't been on here before and am looking for some advice and information. I have been trying to get pregnant for nearly 4 years and have tried IUI 3 times and IVF once without any success. We are just about to try another session of IVF and I have just heard about NPT.Basically I don't know whether to postpone the IVF and give this a go or what to do? Also I'm not really sure what's involved, even though I have looked at the website its all a bit 'double dutch' to me!Also because of where I live and work I'm debating between going to the teacher in Mallow or Bishopstown so if any of you have an opinions on either I'd appreciate them. I was thinking of meeting with one of them before I make the decision about what to do.Thanks
Hi ddn,I have no cm and I use the cb monitor and opks to tell me when the lh surge is. then I take the trigger shot on the peak day. Regarding the ldn. They start you on a lower dose and then build you up to the higher dose over a number of weeks. I think it is to get your body used to it. I know when I started I found it hard to sleep but now I'm as happy as a pig in whats not been on it. Im not too sure what the effect of starting the higher does would be if you havent been on it for a while.I hear you on the teacher thing. I haven't gone to see mine since last november. She is very nice but with no cm I felt it was a waste of time and money. she was always doubting me and I got a tad fed up with it.
Hi Ladies,This is my 3rd post hope it uploads this time! Just wanted to firstly say thanks for all your kind words, don't get to much time to post "very busy at work" but I do try and read your posts.Fleury, I am so very sorry to have read about your miscarriage. It is a very sad/hard time of you. My thoughts are with you!Probaby, your bloods are really good OMG never thought it was possible to get bloods like that....In regards to my peak+ 7 event, I won't be doing that again! But then again I suppose in my mind I felt I was all ready pregnant without reading any test. Now for next month I won't/ try and take notice of all other pregnancy signs.I am a bit confused to be honest about this peak crack. I am on CD 6 at the minute took 3 fermra tablets on day 3 and have to wait for peak. Last month I took trigger on CD 13 and then got smiley face on CD 14. I am now thinking maybe I should have waited to take trigger on CD 14?? It's just Dr. Boyle had circled CD 13/14 so I went ahead and done it on day 13 but maybe I should have waited till 14 " I don't know"Another thing I was on LDN the middle dose but was giving a script for the higher dose but had just started the middle dose so I decided to stay on it and finish same. I have a friend that just lives outside Gort so it was great excuse to pop down and get it "that was 3 weeks ago" I am planning on calling down tomorrow but I am just wondering should I ring the clinic to advise I was off the LDN. Is it ok to start the higher dose?Oh and I have not gone back to see my "teacher" I seen her 3 times I did not really see the point in going over CM when I did not really have any.....?Any advice would be greatly appreciated xxBaby dust to everyone!!!
hi everyone, just back from holidays so thought i'd check in and say hello!fleury already left a note for you on teh rome thread, but am thinking of you at this horrible time. taormina, I think you need to slack off every now and again to prevent it all getting too much! I decided to not take the femara this month and let my body do its own thing. No ldn either and no charting or temping, although I did note the days I got 10kl and peak on cbfm. Bd'ed when we wanted, got a bit tipsy or downright merry most days/nights, ate like a piggy and generally put ttcing on the back burner. We are back now rejuvenated and ready to go at it again! The stress does build up i know and that cant help with concieving!hi everyone else sorry for lack of other personals, so tired, being back at work is killing me!hannansoph x
Hi LadiesThank you for all your recent well wishing posts. Fleury I am so so sorry to read your recent posts. You are in my thoughts and prayers. I really feel for you. You are a wonderful person on here and pick so many of us up I hate to read you're goin thru such a time. Take care of yourself. x Boober -Best of luck this cycle, hope the cbfm works well for you. I still have not used mine. In the box for the past 3 cycles!! Kinda slacked off on charting a bit also . Finding it all so overwhelming lately. Hence the lack of posts. Tryin to forget that I am on a fertility treatment program as I hate to say it ..I am not coping at all well. I need to change my eating habits - sugar really brings out the demons in me when I am on meds. I think of you all often and I log on longing to read of another bfp. -Best wishes to you all. xxxx
Hi boober,I would do exactly what you said there.Take trigger tonight and then again on p+3,5,7I always count p as the day after 1st peak on monitor.I get the ovul pains on my side and like you I got on peak day too.think positive thoughts....maybe try reflexology ...it is more relaxing than acu or maybe even a facial or massage ...anythng that will calm you. Rescue remedy i use sometimes and i find it good.is there anyway you get a fan or something to relieve you at work? I hate stuffy heat like that.mind yourself and get busy too girl. I still think they missed that follicle and it could be the lucky one so pma.
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Hi porbaby,Thanks for the advice. it was a peak on the monitor and I am also getting ov pains on my left side. I am very stressed at the mo though. So I guess I should take the trigger tonight and the the injections on P + 3,5,7 as well as the baby dancing. And try and destress. I'm finding these days very warm in the office. We have no air conditioning and its up near the 30 Mark.
Hi boober,Was it a high or a peak? High indicates increase in estrogen while as peak indicates rise in lh surge which cause the follicle to rupture in next 24-36hrs.get at it if it is peak....maybe they just didnt see follicleI definitely think its delayed boober.....the cbfm is very accurate. If it is high then you could get peak in a few days too.Get your bloods done 7/8 days after peak on monitor just to see what they are like too. I know i ovulated at cd 18 after miscarriage and would normally be cd12-14.hi to all
Morning all,I got a positive on the cb monitor this morning. My question to all you knowledgeable ladies. Can you still get a positive and no eggs. Its almost a week since my scan so I am just hoping that it is delayed ovulation.How are doing today fluery?
Hi all,Fluery ....I am thinking of you and sending you loads of virtual hugs.Dollhouse - hope you are ok and welcome back here - i missed your long posts.Bugsy - you know best ...so feel free to go solo until your lap.Boober2 - thats a bummer alright ...maybe it just an off cycle. I was hoping it was just late ovulation as that happen to me a few times. Next cycle loads of pma .... I think we do need to think positive.Hi beeds - how are you doing?Hi to everyone else.On p+9 so my waiting continues.
Hi fleuryI am so sorry about your m/c you poor poor thing. Enjoy your time away with your children and I hope things get better for you soon.Hi to everyone else
fluery I am so sorry to hear your news. Hopefully it will start naturally and you wont need the d&c. I know they can give you drugs to bring it on. But its best that it starts naturally. At least you have a new plan and hopefully this will get you your bfp. I know that my cycle is so messed up since my d&C in March. Enjoy your break.Porbaby my cycle has gone down to a 26 day since the d&c and I get a positive on the opk on day 10 or 11 and that is why I decided to go in on day 9 to get scanned. The last time I got scanned was on day 10 and I had one follie which was 18 and another which was 13 but this month I have nothing on either side. CD14 today and I just want this cycle over with. I am thinking of going to a fertility acupuncture place in Clane. Does any one know of this place or have used it?Bugsy74 you sound so P~'$ed off. I cant blame you. A break maybe what you need. Or you could just go with what the doctor has prescribed and try it. I think though you have to believe in what the doctor is doing. I know that some months I go half hearted into it expecting the worst and of course I don't get a bfp. Maybe we need to be a bit more positive. If nothing else it will make us feel better.
hi all - sorry I haven't been posting for a while, I haven't been away - have been checking in with ye gals from time to time but haven't been posting too much - a bunch of reasons why unfortunately - I won't bore ye with details - but I really just wanted to post a very quick note to send Fluery lots of hugs !! I am so sorry hun that you are going through this at the moment but am glad you had Dr B by your side (as it were) today for reasssurance - but I sympathise - it so hard to hear when the drs/gps set it in stone - wishing you all the very best that this time passes quickly for you, enjoy the time away with your precious ones - oh - and I hope your mam's recovery is going well too. Take care of yourself Fluery.Hi to everyone else - it is a bit close to bedtime for me so please forgive lack of personnels - will try catch up with you all again very soon - night night all.
oh fluery, i am so sorry to read that. it must be heart breaking for you. Enjoy the weekend by the sea with the family as best you can.thanks to everyone for replying on the oestrodial. Dr B has recommended 6 femara now. I've picked them up from the chemist but to be honest, i dont think i will take them. I just cant get away from thinking my body is trying to tell me it doesnt like it - i had Oest fof 600+ before i ever had any meds, and since taking meds, i've been getting really low results. I'm just fed up of it all. Going to do the L&D in Sept so i think i will just forget about ttc until after that. Porbaby, your results are unreal, well done! Please god the TWW wont be too hard on you and fingers crossed for a BFP.Hope everyone else is doing well!!Fleury, will be thinking of u! Hugs!
my god fluery, You poor devil - this is just unbelieveable. I really hope af comes soon and you dont have to face another D&C.The up side (if there is an upside with miscarriage) is that he has a new plan for you. The Dhea and intralipids might be just what you need as you concieve fairly easily you just need the extra help after that. I really hope this will bring you your much deserved bfp as you have been through way too much.Dr B knows his stuff and wont leave a stone unturned and as he said you are getting closer. Just hold on to that.Enjoy your few days by the sea with the kids.My thoughts are with you and word cant really express how sad I am that this is happening again for you.take carep
Fleury pet I'm so sorry to read your post. You take care and enjoy your time with your kiddies xx
Hi all -Porbaby - sorry, you said already about your Peak + 7, I must have not read it properly!!So, I had a bit of a rough day today, I am currently in the middle of another miscarriage - and am waiting for the bleed to start, if it doesn't I will have to go in for another D & C. I had a nightmare experience with a D & C about 18 months ago - and I really really don't want to repeat it. Hopefully, the bleeding will just start by itself, and nature can take its course. He has actually classified this as my 5th miscarriage - which I find so difficult to believe, that this has actually happened to me 5 times - three before Napro, and now these 2, although the last one (that would be No 4) was when I was getting a small fat positive (not a bfp) two cycles ago, for a couple of days past Peak plus 17, and then my AF started, so I don't even know if that should be counted, but he thinks "technically" it should. But this one is different, as it has gone on so long, and the positive hpts were there for nearly 2 weeks past Peak & 17.So thats the update. My parents have a mobile by the sea, and I had promised the kids that I would take them for a few days starting tomorrow, so I will be away from RC til the weekend anyway. Just so that ye haven't thought that I have jumped off a cliff somewhere!! I am actually ok - I knew that I had conceived this cycle, and that it didn't last very long, but I guess when he confirmed it, and is counting it as a miscarriage, it kinda makes it more real. So I am feeling a bit numb about that. But, on the otherhand, he does feel like I am getting closer, and that I am responding well to the meds (bar the horrible steroid, glad to see the back of that!) and has me booked in for review in January 2011. Mad!!Other than that, Dr B was extremely nice, and still didn't throw me out (I am kinda always waiting for that to happen!) He took me off the prednisolone (steroid) and has started me on DHEA and I will be starting the intralipids (intravenous things - takes 3 hours, in two weeks time). Hopefully by then this bleed will have come and gone.
fluery - thinking of you today.Hope you got some answers and a new plan to focus on.hi to everyone else
hey fluery,I am p+7 so cant feckin test properly till p+17.that trigger is a killer alright. yes prog was 205 last month....weird hey.loada of good wishes for tom and pg he will will have answers for you.
Porbaby - those bloods were great - good on you - was your progesterone really over 200 last cycle? That is huge!! Anyway, they sound great this month - what cd are you on, Peak & ??. Blasted trigger is a pain for testing, isn't it?
hi gals,fluery - best of luck tomorrow with Dr B. That is strange about prednisolone. This is my first month on them and so far nothing. I have a good feeling that he will put your mind at rest. Make sure he scans you too. Sometimes they only do it if you ask. boober - that a nuisance but I would think cd 9 is a bit early so maybe ovulation is happening now - I bd just in caseHi to everyone else ....dollhouse are you back yet?I am on p+7-Got bloods done this am and results there at 5pm (I am so lucky to get them that fast) Well oest =707 and prog=117 so happy with that.Now prog was 200 last month on same meds so dont understand how they can change but really cant complain as they over the limits.Trying not to test but finding it hard already.babydust to all
ddn - you poor thing - I think many of us have been where you are (with the whole hpt / peak & 17 thingy) - don't be too hard on yourself, and what you are feeling is so natural. The trigger thing is unbelievably difficult - there is nothing worse than trying to figure out if it is still the trigger in your system, or if it could be a real bfp - I am so sorry that it hasn't worked out for you this month - and I know you are feeling rotten, deservedly so. You poor thing, I know your pain, in relation to the bfp / non-bfp thing. I obviously have no experience of the huge grief that you must still be dealing with in relation to your baby girl. You have had it so hard, you poor girl.Thanks for all the info re the acupuncture and reflexology Crimbo - the lady I am seeing is Zita West affiliated, so I guess I am in good hands.... I will keep at it with her - find the money from somewhere I guess. I have cut way down on the various supplements etc - so maybe I will use that as an excuse!Hey Porbaby - al this talk of Peak & 17, are you coming up to it? The only good thing about testing early, or all along, is that you can see the HcG fade out of your system.... but it can linger for so long!! Good for you, being strong this month. At least one of is!Hi Jams - don't think we have chatted before - many congrats to you on the birth of your little man!Hi Boober - lovely to hear from you - sorry to hear that this cycle is not working out for you - so frustrating. Could you be ovulating, if there were no follicles a few days ago? I am sorry, I haven't a clue. No harm in bding anyway, I suppose, if you have the heart for it! Best of luck with the whole fibroid thing, when will that be?I am off to Dr B in the morning - hopefully he will be able to sort me out - I haven't had an AF since the beginning of July, or maybe the end of June, which is so strange on a medicated cycle - def not pregnant though! I am also going to ask him about the strange effect the prednisolone is having on me - after a few days on it my whole body feels like it has been beaten up - even my face gets sore, like I have been hit a belt! My legs/ribs/arms muscles etc, all get really really painful, so that can't be a good thing. I seem to be alone in this, but I googled it, and it is listed as a side-effect. Anyway, will know more tomorrow.
Oh and yes Dr B is moving to Dublin. Also there is another doctor joining Dr Mc in lesson st. As dr mcs says there are alot of people in Dublin and they need to have a presence here. Oh he is also sending me to a doc in the coombe for the fibroid so hopefully we will get some good results then.
Hi guys,I haven't been on in ages. Well my cycle is all over the place this month. Im on cd 12 today and still spotting. Af stopped on day 7 came back day 8 and 9. Had a scan done on day 9 and there were no follies at all. Hardley any lining. Dr mcs said to cancel this cycle. I am still spotting a little. I am starting to get ov pains now. Has this happened to anyone else?He has also doubled my famara to 8 and added pregnyl 3, 5 ,7. Hi to all. How are all our mammies to be keeping?
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I think that we might increase the number of votes if you change it to a single task list again. If you just show tasks from the networks that users have completed in their profiles we can avoid the problem of users clicking on tasks for networks that they aren't in.
I also thought it might work well if you ordered the tasks by date entered descending, so newer tasks get votes first. That might seem a little unfair, but I think that it would even out for everyone over time.
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- May 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM
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Chris: The tasks are ordered exactly as you say. Newer tasks first.
About only one list i don't know what to say.
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I just think it would be easy to do. I would personally prefer to be voting on multiple sites at once anyway so that I am not going *vote* *vote* *vote* on the same site over and over again.
And if I have an account at one of those sites then it doesn't really matter.
I think the problem is that when we split up the list we suddenly split the users into really small groups based on what they had in the queue. If the user has an account at the site then they should be able to complete tasks on that site regardless of whether or not they have a bookmark shared for that site or not.
Just my opinion. I think that we would get a lot more votes going around that way.
- May 30, 2008 at 8:02 AM
- skynex66 said...
Yes you are right specialy for the "other network" type wich noone sees as they don't have tasks asociated.
Should i place some checkboxes with "what tasks do you want to see" and check them all bydefault ?
How does that sound?
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