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I am going to get a dry cut saw and I cut a lot of angles so am looking to get one that is set up for miter cutting. It should be 14" and have a quick and accurate clamping set up. There are several good saws out there, but the clamping for miter cuts is terrible. Anyone know of a good one?? I did see a video of the Evolution Rage 3 which looks great, but It looks smaller than the 14". I cut a lot of 2" at 45 deg. and not sure if that one would do it. Thanks
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I have the Rage 3- hate it.
Really designed for wood and occasional metal. Plastic blade guard on the base- not exactly sure what that piece is called but it has melted areas with metal stuck in it. PIA to clean up and make it smooth again.
Clamping system is a joke.
I would get a 14" Dry cut like the STEELSAW2
14" TCT Industrial Chop Saw
or Dewalt equivalent: DeWALT Heavy Duty 14'' Metal (Multi-Cutter) Dry-Cut SawEd Conley
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I have used both the Evolution and the Steelmax. I like the Steelmax way more than the Evolution.
You might want to take a look at this one.
I have the DeWalt Multi cutter. Setting up the backstop/clamp requires a square for perfect cuts. For the money, it's alright. Also fast enough RPM to use an abrasive disc on hardened or stainless steel.Syncrowave 250 DX
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I am leaning towards the Milwaukee myself http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/corded/6190-20
As said a dry saw and a cold saw are to totally different animals and are separated in price by thousands of dollars.
As far as dry saws go I would NOT buy another Evolution product. The Steel Max is the same saw as an evolution Rage 2. I have two dry saws as of right now, the Dewalt and the Milwaukee. Between the two the Milwaukee is the better saw by far. The Dewalt table sucks, badly. It is the same table and clamp as their abrasive saw, and deflects a lot when clamping. This is important, as if you get one slip when cutting with a dry saw you have likely trashed a $100+ dollar blade. The Milwaukee saw has a cast aluminum table and a much better clamp. I made a new table for my Dewalt out of 1/2" plate and it is much better now. There is a thread on it over on the Shopfloortalk board.
For just a little more money you get a lot more saw
Seems like this tread is sort of wandering between cold cut and dry cut saws....hmmmm... Anyway, my $.02, since abrasive saws fall into one of those categories is that I would NEVER have one in my own shop. The abrasive saws make a huge mess, cover everything in the shop with grit and make you blow black boogers for a while after making a few cuts. Maybe I'd use one outside on a work site where nothing of mine is going to get all covered with crap and there may be a little breeze blowing to keep me from having to breathe the crap the saw throws.(besides the breeze makes the MIG and/or TIG guys swear and I just love the sound of swearing in the morning!!) Needless to say, my shop has only two saws and they are both "band" types...one dry and one wet, but the wet one is OFTEN used dry (good blade!) since I don't really like having saw drool all over the workpiece or my hands and the floor, either!!
Also, if cutting mostly ferrous and not cutting aluminum or such, a guy COULD just get really good with an A/O cutting torch. Kind of hard to be VERY accurate with, but I have seen guys that can make cuts that look like they were made with a CNC Plasma rig!!Don J
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Thanks for the info. The Milwaukee seems pretty solid, but they have been discontinued. I think their abrasive saws have been discontinued also. They seem to make one of the best saws so they decided to quit making it. Sounds like a good idea. There is still a few out there though on the web. Anyway - I seen the Makita - which seems to have the best fence and clamping system so I'll probably get that. 500.00 and it's only a 12", but I guess it'll do. Dewalt would probably be good, but I have their abrasive saw and the fence is time consuming when cutting lots of angles. Thanks again:


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Retired four-star general and former Democratic Presidential candidate Wesley Clark criticizes the course of U.S. foreign policy in the wake of September 11, 2001.
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Good evening welcome to tonight's meeting of the Commonwealth Club of California. I am Jeff Clarke, President and CEO of the Northern California Public Broadcasting, the parent company of KQED. I am also pleased to serve as a member of the Commonwealth Club's Board of Governors. Find this on the internet at commonwealthclub.org. It's my pleasure to introduce our distinguished speaker, Retired Army Four Star General Wesley Clark, former presidential candidate, formal NATO Supreme Allied commander in Europe and author of "A Time to Lead". Wesley Clark was born in Chicago in December 1944, the only child of Veneta and Benjamin Kanne. His father a prosecutor, Democratic politician and World War I veteran died when Wesley was a young child. He and his mother then moved to Little Rock where they lived in a rented house with his grandparents while his mother got a job as a secretary in a bank. Using his father's deceased veteran's benefits they bought a small house where Wes grew up and became a star swimmer and top student of Little Rock's Hall high school. In 1954 his mother married Victor Clark who became Wesley's step father. In 1962 he was admitted to the United States Military Academy and began a 38 year carrier of public service in United States Army. As a 25 year old army captain in Vietnam, commanding a mechanized infantry company, his bravery and battle earned him a silver star. After his initial eight year obligation was completed, General Clark made the decision to stay in the army which led to a wide range of assignments including the command of battalions in Colorado and Germany, service as the commander of the army's National Training Centre during the Persian Gulf War and three emergency deployments to Kuwait as the Commanding General of Fort Hood's First Cavalry Division. In 1994 General Clark was named Director for Strategic Plans and Policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And in 1997 after serving his Commander in Chief of the US Southern Command, General Clark was selected for one of the top post in the military, Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, a position first held by General Eisenhower. After retiring from the army Clark sought the White House during the last election because he said he wanted to bring a less hawkish perspective to the White House. Today we look forward to his perspectives on a number of fronts including but certainly not limited to US foreign policy, the war in Iraq and the 2008 presidential race. Please join me in welcoming General Wesley Clark to San Francisco and to the Commonwealth Club of California. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well I see a lot of old friends out here and its just great to be here at the Commonwealth Club. I am on a book tour and I did write this book "A Time to Lead." I wrote it at the behest of a West Point classmate and I was on the daily show with Jon Stewart about two weeks ago and he said, so let me get this straight, you ran for president four years ago, you didn't write a book. Now you are not running for president and you have written a book and its entitled "A Time to Lead." He said, what gives? And I explained to him, I really want to write a book about America and that's what I tried to write about through my own experiences in my life. I can't get through an airport without people asking me what are we going to do about Iraq and what are we going to do about America and there is no simple answer, you can't just pop out an algebraic equation and answer that question. You have to go back and ask how did we get to where we are and who are we as Americans. So let me try to tackle both those in a way and then set the stage for your dialogue because I really want to hear what's on in your mind. The beginning of all this problem that we are in with Iraq and Afghanistan in the war on terror and all of that is its not with the birth of Mohammed and its not with the founding of the state of Israel. Its actually 1989, it was the year of miracles in Europe. It was the year in which the Berlin Wall came down; it was the year in which the Soviet Empire in Eastern Europe collapsed. It was the year in which we are generally credited with having won the Cold War. We won the Cold War with an integrated civil, political, diplomatic, economic and military strategy that was calling upon all of America's resources and strengths to contain the expansion of communism and deter the use of Soviet military power. Now it was true that Republicans and Democrats never totally agreed on this. The strategy was actually formulated in the late 40's by Harry Truman and it was carried by Eisenhower and Republicans always believe we should have more weapons and talk tougher and threaten more people and do more covert operations, and Democrats always said, can't we be nicer and have more negotiations and can't we sign more treaties and don't be nasty. And but those abroad common agreement, that this was America's purpose in the world and within that agreement then Democratic and Republicans fought it out. And so Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Reagan all carried this strategy forward until the Soviet Union collapsed. People of my age in the armed forces I I was commissioned in 1966 and my first experience in Germany was 1964 as a cadet, I had a tank platoon with 19 soldiers and five tanks in Germany to command for the summer of 1964. We went to the we went to the divided city of Berlin we went to Checkpoint Charlie, we went down Karl Marx's [0:06:56] ____ in East Berlin. We saw the crumbling facades of this cheap communist architecture. We saw the angry militant thin faces of these East German border policemen. We saw the mines in the Berlin Wall. We were told and received the intelligence briefings about the four East German divisions who were locked and caught in their barracks, locked up with their officers, with their equipment uploaded, ready to attack on two hours notice and behind them two Russian armies of a dozen division loaded with tanks ready to get to the Rhine River in less than 72 hours. Behind that more armies, more troops and ultimately 6000 warheads pointed at America, nuclear warheads. That was the world we grew up in. It was unthinkable to us that we would win. I mean we always wanted to win and there was an American diplomat named George Kennan who wrote this paper called The Sources of Soviet Conduct, in which he said if you just hold on and squeeze them long enough, eventually they will collapse at their own mistaken ideas. But nobody was willing to take a bet on it and say it's going to happen in X year. I even went to Colin Powell on the summer of 1989, he was coming in to be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and my friend Bill Odum was going to go in and brief him and I said I said, General Odum, take this message into General Powel for me and because I had worked for him and he knew and respected me, I said, tell him he should set a goal like this would be the that the end of the Berlin Wall during the four years he is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And a couple of days later I got a note back from General Odum, it says, no General Powell says that's too ambitious a goal. And four months later the Berlin Wall was down. We couldn't believe it. And within two years the Soviet Union had collapsed. We won the greatest victory of the 20th Century. We won it without ever having fought the Russians directly. We won it because we took we built our economy and Eisenhower said America's greatest strength was our economic strength, we took our military and trained them, but we told them that their real purpose was to deter war, not to fight war. We took our educational system and we tried to sharpen it for training and teaching and science and education and technology to compete with the Soviets on Sputnik and the race to the moon. We took our young people and we appointed the football coach from Oklahoma to be the Presidential Physical Fitness Advisor for America. And in the Kennedy administration young people were encouraged to be physically fit and get a presidential physical fitness badge, and we did a lot of things to try to harness America. We brought tens of thousands of young people here to study and see our ideas. We sent American companies abroad; we even encouraged them to hire local people and then bring them back here for training. Those multinational corporations were America's eyes and ears and ambassadors on the world. All of that was designed to contain the spread of communism and deter the Soviet Union and it worked. But but when we won the Cold War, we lost our strategy. We had no adversary; we lost our purpose in the world. We lost the organizing principles that held the American society together and focused just on the outer world, we lost the organizing principles that kept the NATO alliance together. We were in a new world. It was so new that Harvard historian Francis Fujiyama it the end of history. George Bush proclaimed a new world order. Gabriel GarcÃÂÂÂa Márquez came to see me in Panama on 1996 and says, it's the most boring time in history. And I said why, he said because there is no clash of ideas. There is only one idea. I said I don't think that's boring. But I was wrong, because there were a lot of other ideas. During the that period I was the division commander of the Fort Hood as Jeff said in 1992-94'. I had 350 armored fighting vehicles, 350 tanks, battalion of apache helicopters, battalion of multiple launch rocket systems, three battalions and tube artillery, 17,000 soldiers and 53 horses. I got to ride the horseback twice a week, I had boots that came up to my knees, I used boot picks to get on, I had a wind broke thoroughbred because the army wouldn't like you pay more than $1,400 for a horse and had a big black stetson and with two stars on it. And I actually could gallop and jump and I loved it. And suddenly I was told I was going to go to Washington, get a third star and be the Director of Strategic Plans and Policy on the Joint Staff, the highest military staff in the country. My job was to integrate military thinking with diplomatic and political strategy. So I was the guy who took the military strategic plans and went across the Potomac River everyday to the White House meetings and had a staff of 300 officers to help me and we did everything from all geographic areas to space, arms export policy, international treaty and negotiations and the UN. I had the whole you might say, what is this what else is anybody doing on the Joint Staff. But believe me, it's a very busy place and there are a lot of people doing a lot of things. But I had a huge port folio and when I went up there. I didn't know what we were doing because there was no Soviet threat, there was no organizing principle and so, I arrived at it was I think the fifth of April 1994 was my first day. When I walked in, they handed me three, three ring binder, stacked up on my desk, they said, sir, you have to learn all these. I looked at it and they were full of acronyms and abbreviations and I couldn't understand what they were saying, I thought I was going to learn about NATO. But instead they showed me a map and it had like six lines and they were all intersecting. They said, well, there is NATO, there is the European Union, there is a Western European Union, there is the organization for security and corporation in Europe, there is a Western Union Treaty organization, I mean they went through all these different organizations and they were all overlapping. So Denmark is the member of the they member of the EU, but they are not a member of the EU, monitory, but they are member of NATO, but they are not a member of the West European union. But they get to vote in the EU on West European Union Defense Policy you know, they are not member of the you know, there is you are trying to sort this out and it was incredibly complicated and confusing and I had been there and trying to learn my job, General Shalikashvili told me I was supposed to be the person who drove the staff. I was supposed to come up with these ideas. So the second day, I was there, I was leaving the office. And somebody said, bad news in Africa, we just had a shoot down of an aircraft by a missile that shot-down the presents of Rwanda and Burundi; it may be our missile. So this was the crisis on Thursday morning, my third day. So it turned out it was a French missile and not an American missile no problem. I was leaving the office, so I am and I said well, who are these people on Rwanda and Burundi. They said, sir they are the we don't have time to brief you on it right now, but we will get on your calendar and come back and give you the run down next week, fine. So on Friday, I was leaving the office, I thought I had a full week, my wife was saying, when are you ever going to be home, when are you going to hang the pictures, when are you going to unpack. And I had already learned, when every time I went to Shalikashvili's office, he had CNN on continuously. And I realized - my learning experience was if you ever want to find out what's happening, you don't ask the National Military Command Center, you watch CNN. So I was leaving office at six o'clock at night on a Friday night, half the people are gone because they think they can take advantage of me as a newbie on the block, that I won't call them on Friday night if they get out of their seat. And I was looking on the CNN screen, there is fighting, there are soldiers, they are in Africa. It's dark, there are black faces, there are white soldiers, there are explosions. I said what is this, a war movie or what? And my assistant said, oh no it's some action in Kigali or some place and it looks like I think it's a French and may be may be it's the Belgians and so I quickly called the National Military Command Center and said I am you know, I am the new J5, I am supposed to know everything, what's going on in the world and looks like we got a battle going on in Africa, what's that about? They said, sir we don't know anything. I said did you look at CNN, they said, no sir. So I called the European Command Center in Stuttgart, Germany and they are supposed to keep up with Africa, I said, what's going on, they said, we don't know anything about it. So I had to call the embassies, anyway, we were up all night with the State Department trying to figure out what the French and Belgians were doing. The Saturday morning, I had a nine o'clock meeting with Secretary of Defense Bill Perry and they said, if you impress Perry you may get to go with him on a trip to Korea. So go to this meeting and see what he has to say, so I went in there and I thought, ah Korea, I have been there a dozen times, I have been over there, I have trained the troops, I know the war plans, I discovered we were about to go to war with North Korea. It seemed like President Clinton had been there in October of 93', he told the North Koreans, they could have told he said, no nuclear weapons on the Korean peninsula, he got home, the CIA said, well Mr. President there has been a slight problem, it seemed like we may have misled you may be we should have told you earlier, but there is this Korean reactor and they can take the fuel rods out of it and if they reprocess them, they could extract plutonium from the spent fuel and that could make a nuclear weapon and there could be enough plutonium to make two nuclear weapons. But we don't know if they have done this because they won't let the IAEA inspectors look at the reprocessed or non-reprocessed fuel pit to find out if there were residue in there, has been reprocessed or not. And so we were going to threaten them and we were going to take them to the UN and they said, if you take us to the UN and put sanctions on us, we will consider it as act of war. And so the generals in Korea called us to say they say it's a act of war, it's going to be an act of war, give us more troops and this thing was ramping up to be a full fledged battle and you know, I left about three hours later from the secretary's office kind of stunned, because none of this was in the press. And on Sunday I got called into a meeting in the White House, I sat in the back row, Situation Room it's a little tiny room about the size of this stage with a little table and there was the Secretary of State Warren Christopher, my first meeting with him and there was Madeleine Albright on a TV screen from New York, she was the UN Ambassador and Sandy Berger, the Deputy National Security Advisor, Tony Lake, the National Security Advisor and Bill Perry was there again and Shalikashvili, my boss was there and several other people, Vice President's National Security Advisor, and they are arguing about the Air Rules of Engagement for flying combat air patrols over Bosnia. And they are talking about what are the criteria which enable them to shoot Serb aircraft. And they are arguing, well there is a plane here and there is a plane here and if they sees the plane, if it turns back to them and if the radar is on and what if there is a radar on the ground and if the radar on the ground, what kind of radar is it and how does the pilot know the radar is on the ground and tracking him, not tracking and this discussion goes on and they are moving like this. I am sitting there trying to follow this conversation; I got a little stenographer's notebook. I am thinking I have to copy everything down, I couldn't follow it, they couldn't follow it, they want an aviator in the room, no body understood the technology, we spent three hours there on a Sunday afternoon and we ended with nothing. That was my first weekend. And on Monday morning, a guy came in, knocked on the door, he was a one star general, he said sir, I was gone last week. I worked for you didn't me my name is Tommy Hill. And he said, I have to report something to you, I am not allowed to tell you this because it's classified information and it's compartmented. But I and I am representing you in this compartmented program, but I feel like how to tell you any way we are planning an invasion of Haiti. And you know, here I come up, here it's the end of the Cold War, I don't know why we have armed forces left and we are about to go to war with North Korea, we are fighting the war over the Balkans and we are going to invade Haiti. And it was crazy. And this went on every single weekend with calls and frantic meetings and nothing decide and after about six or eight weeks of this Shalikashvili called me back and he said Wes, he said, look he said in his polish accent at English. He says, we hired you to be the strategist because you are supposed to be so smart, so tell us what is this strategy that has us working every weekend? And it was a joke, because there was no strategy. And so we tried to create a strategy. We worked really hard to do it. And we labored for year and a half to create. I mean - What do you do after deterrence and containment? There was no obvious threat, we knew that there was a threat of regional war, there was a threat of terrorism, there was a threat of nuclear proliferation, there was a threat of Russia should be become hostile, but there was no obvious immediate threat that you could sort of run up the flag and say, look out here come here they come again, you know. And so how could you use that to mobilize resources, build alliances, so we really puzzle over this. And we wrote this strategy called the Strategy of Engagement and Enlargement. It was published in 1995, and if you saw the title today of Engagement and Enlargement, you think it was an advertisement for men's pharmaceutical product. All most nobody read it it never became the real national strategy. We were very active you know we went to Bosnia, we put 25,000 troops on the ground, we stopped the war, we fought a 78 day air camp, and we bombed Saddam, we bombed Osama Bin Laden, we won that war that saved a million and a half Albanians, that I led as NATO commander and at the end of it all when I retired in 2000 there was still non national strategy. And in the 2000 presidential election I remember it was just before I left the military, I came to New York and I heard Ken Black and Bob Shrum who were managing respectively, the George Bush and Al Gore campaigns, debate in front of these prominent French and American business leaders, what would be the 2000 election themes? What would be the top five issues? It was like the economy, education, social security reform, and may be trade and that was it. There was nothing about national security, nothing, no significant foreign policy issues. Now, everything was going great. And then 9/11 happened. And what happened in 9/11 is we didn't have a strategy, we didn't have bipartisan agreement, we didn't have American understanding of it and we had instead a policy coup in this country, a coup, a policy coup. Some hardnosed people took over the direction of American policy and they never bothered to inform the rest of us. I went through the Pentagon ten days after 9/11. I couldn't stay away from mother army. I went back there to see Donald Rumsfeld, I had worked for him as a White House fellow in the 1970s, its all listed in the book and and I said to him, are you doing okay on CNN and he said yeah yeah yeah fine, he said, I am thinking about he says, I read your book and he said this is the book that talks about the Kosovo campaign and he said, I just want to tell you he said, no body is going to tell where or when we can bomb, no body. He said I am thinking to call this a floating coalition, and what you think about that. I said, well sir, thanks for reading my book. And well he said, thanks that are all the time I have got, really. And I went downstairs, I was leaving the Pentagon and an officer from the Joint Staff called me into his office and said, I would want you to know, he said, sir, we are going to attack Iraq. And I said, why? He said, we don't know. He said I said, will they tie Saddam to 9/11? He said, no he said but I guess, its they don't know to do about terrorism and so the they think but they can attack states and they want to look strong its all, I guess they think if they take down a state, it will intimidate the terrorists and you know what its like that old saying, it said, if the only tool you have is a hammer, then every problem has to be a nail. Well I walked out of there pretty upset and then we attacked Afghanistan. I was pretty happy about that, we should have. And then I came back to the Pentagon about six weeks later, I saw the same officer, I said why why haven't we attacked Iraq? We are sill going to attack Iraq, he said, oh sir he says, its worse than that. He said he pulled up a piece of paper of his desk, he said, I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense's office, it says we are going to attack and destroy the governments in in seven countries in five years. We are going to start with Iraq and then we are going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran seven seven countries in five years. I said, is that a classified memo? He said, yes sir. I said; well don't show it to me. He was about to show it to me, because I don't want to talk about it. And I I sat on this information for a long time, for about six or eight months, I was so stunned by this, I couldn't begin to talk about it. And I couldn't believe it would really be true, but that's actually what happened. These people took control of the policy in the United States and I realized then it came back to me, a 1991 meeting I had with Paul Wolfowitz you know, in 2001 he was Deputy Secretary of Defense, but in 1991 he was the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, it's the number three position of the Pentagon. And I had gone to see him when I was a one star general, I was commanding the National Training Centre, I had met him one time, he said, if you ever get to Washington, come with me up there, I always say that. Well, I was there in Washington, it was a Friday afternoon, I had visited Colin Powell, he gave me five minutes of his precious time and set me on my way and I was bored in the Pentagon and and I thought I will just go who could I see. I think I will see Wolfowitz. So I called and up there he was available, Scooter Libby came to the door, I met Scooter for the first time and he brought me in and I said to Paul and this is 1991, I said Mr. Secretary you must be pretty happy with the performance of the troops in Desert Storm. And he said, well yeah, he said but but not really, he said because the truth is we should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and we didn't. And this was just after the Shia uprising in March of 91' which we had provoked and then we kept our troops on the side lines and didn't intervene. And he said, but one thing we did learn, he said, we learned that we can use our military in the region in the Middle East and the Soviets wont stop us. He said, and we have got about five or ten years to clean up those all Soviet client regimes; Syria, Iran, Iraq, - before the next great super power comes on to challenge us. And it was like you know I am coming out the Mohave desert, I have been training troops, I haven't been thinking geo strategy for some time and suddenly a guy just sort of shoves this nugget it well you will remember it it was a pretty stunning thing, I mean the purpose of the military is to start wars and change governments, its not to sort of deter a a conflict, we are going to have invade countries and you know, my mind was spinning. And I put that aside. It was like a nugget that you hold on to. This country was taken over by a group of people with a policy coup, Wolfowitz and Cheney and Rumsfeld and you could name a half dozen other collaborators from the project for a new American century. They wanted at us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control. It went back to those comments in 1991. Now did anybody tell you that, was there a national dialogue on this? Did senators and congressman stand up and denounce this plan? Was there a full fledged American debate on it? Absolutely not; and there are still isn't, and that's why we are failing in Iraq, because Iran and Syria know about the plan. All you have to do is read the the Weekly Standard and Bill Kristol and he blabber mouthed it out all over the world, Richard, the same way. They could hardly wait to finish Iraq, so they could move in to Syria. It was like a lay down, oh our legions are going to go in there. This wasn't what the American people voted George Bush in to office, well they didn't actually vote him to office, but it wasn't what many of the people who it wasn't what he campaigned on. He campaigned on a humble foreign policy, the most arrogant foreign policy in American history. He campaigned on no peace keeping, no nation building and here he is with Afghanistan and Iraqis; astonishing. So the root of the problem is not how many troops are in Iraq, please believe me, don't be mad if you are a Democrat at your Democratic congressmen because they can't reduce the troops and frustrate the president. That's not the issue. And if you are Republican don't be mad at the Democrats because they are fussing with the troops. Whether you are Democrat or Republican, if you are an American you ought to be concerned about the strategy of the United States in this region, what is our aim, what is our purpose, why are we there, why are Americans dying in this region? That is the issue, for lack of an effective strategy we are going to lose in this regional battle. David Patreaus, he worked for me, he was a fine young officer, he hasn't worked for me as a senior officer, I assume he is very competent, no body makes four stars in the United States Armed Forces, no matter what [0:29:09] ____ unless they are pretty good. But and David Patreaus is good, darn good, but listen, he doesn't hold the cards the cards for America's success in the region are held by the White House. They have to do with strategy, whether you talk to or isolate Iran, whether you punish or reform Syria, whether you aid or condemn Lebanon, how you motivate Egypt, how you deal with Saudi Arabia, those are key elements in a strategy and there has to be a purpose for it and none of that has been laid out in any coherent way. No, its all about politics, it's what Karl Rove said in January 2002, in Las Vegas, Nevada, he said, "We going to run this President as a War President." And you know what? They are succeeding. The Democratic challenge to Iraq was in my view misplaced. We should not have challenged on troop strength or tactics. Its not about troops and tactics, it's about strategy and policy. And we failed on challenging the strategy and policy. And Bush won on troops because he knows he has got the Democrats up against the wall. It's all about politics. If you try to take down the troops, he says you are not you are not supporting the American troops. If you if you try to challenge what he is doing, he says you don't want to win. And now the rhetoric is heating up against Iran. So where is this going to go? Likely to a strike against Iran it could be strike against nuclear, could be build as a strike against Iran because there are aiding and abetting the insurgents who were fighting and killing Americans. And how many Democratic congressmen do you think will be able to take a strong and principle stand against this? Well the answer is; any Democrats who want to stand up and say, "No, I believe Iran has a perfect right to kill and attack American soldiers." Or any congressmen who wants to say, "No, I have I favor Iran getting a nuclear weapon." So, do you see he is kind of he owns the playing field, the President does. Its not about strategy, it's about politics. It's about election politics. I am sorry to say, I am so disappointed, we can't seem to control the dialogue. And I am out here tonight begging you to help us get this dialogue reoriented in the right direction before it's too late and we are engaged in another and deeper war with more costs, another unnecessary war in this region. What should we be doing? We should send a diplomatic region mission to the region. I would put Richard Holbrooke over there in a heart beat. Put him on a golf stream gave him a General, gave him a a couple of assistance. So I said, "Dick, see you come back when you got it sorted out. I am giving you two months. Go visit every leader in the good, we will give them this; if they are bad, we are going to do this. And see if you can get make some sense out of this and build some coherence." Iran cannot tolerate a hostile Iraq. We did them a great favor. 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"They did not wish to preserve the existing order, or even to turn back the clock to some more stable century. They purposefully planned to transform the existing order into a new and all-absorbing authoritarianism, based upon the energies and frustrations of modern industrialism. The Fascists, in a meaningful sense, were revolutionaries." This is a debateable poimnt. In most Facist countries conservative forces rallied to a militant conservatism when they were under threat. The proclaimed ideals of Fascism; patriotism, loyalty, family, are those proclaimed by conservatives. The militancy was a product of circumstance user:stevendavy
Is anybody paying attention to this article? A liberal recently posted information which labels Conservapedia as fascist! We need to keep an eye on articles such as this. Scorpionman 11:09, 7 March 2007 (EST)
Using "far-right" and "far-left" in reference to "state" in the first paragraph is not needed. And "far-left" makes no sense, since in the second paragraph Fascism is called the opposite of Communism, which is as far-left as you can get.--Dave3172 23:56, 7 March 2007 (EST)
It should be noted that Nazism is different from Fascism. This article treats both terms as if they're synonymous. - Thjazi
Since when was the swastika used for "mind control"? Also Mussolini hated Nazism, and Hitler made it clear that Nazism was not fascism. Therefore discussion of Nazism belongs in a seperate article, not one on fascism. Also most government types "impose social and economic regimentation". This isn't unique to fascism, or any ideology. America's Bill of Rights is a form of social regimentation. Also, this article treats fascism as just a type of government without fully explaining the ideology itself. This article talks more of Nazism and Communism than it does fascism. - mckennesaw
If taken as stated, facism is only different from structure oriented conservatism (citation: They did not wish to preserve the existing order), but not from what could also be claimed of value oriented conservatism (They purposefully planned to transform the existing order into a new and all-absorbing authoritarianism, based upon the energies and frustrations of modern industrialism.) -- SchiFra
- "structure oriented conservatism"? Nice try. Problem is, nobody seems to be able to define the "left" as anything other than "for change". Hitler was for change. RobS 14:20, 19 April 2007 (EDT)
The last sentence (The Fascists, in a meaningful sense, were revolutionaries) is not a well-supported or proven fact. Too close to an impression or an opinion. It should be deleted. -- SchiFra
- Direct quote from Prof. Schlesinger. RobS 14:20, 19 April 2007 (EDT)
Which European nations have significant Fascist influence? There are none which have fascist parties or fascist ideologies that are legal or bona fide.
There should definitely be a section on this page that explains some of fascism's key characteristics like collectivism, nationalism and the like. Conservawesome 12:08, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
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- Though fascism is generally considered to be an ideology of the extreme right, it has important differences from conventional conservatism: for example, fascists favor state-sponsored corporatism over the free market (though they are vehemently opposed to socialism). Fascists and conservatives have co-operated in many countries, but conservatives have clamped down on fascist movements in others (witness, for example, the fate of the Iron Guard in Romania). Mussolini himself started out on the political Left.
Calling fascism and conservatism "right-wing" adds nothing to the article. We need better definitinos of all three terms, before we can do anything like that.
We also need to be sure whether Fascism includes Nazism. --Ed Poor 14:57, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
- I think the addition how nazism puts an emphasis on race is very good. The etymology of the word, as defined in the mainspace however, I'm not certain is accurate. The term "faces", I've always understood to refer to the weapon a "fascist" weilded, and it was a symbol of "defence", or "defence of the (Roman Empire) realm". Hence a "fascist" is literally a "defender", or "defender of the realm". The term also is very much more akin or synonomous with French "Chauvinism". RobS 16:58, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
See also Fascism_Talk—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] [[User talk:{{{1}}}|(talk)]]
- This does not belong in a mainspace. RobS 16:58, 11 May 2007 (EDT)
I changed the sentence which overtly attempted to create a tenuous connection with socialism. The truth is, most of the central tenets of fascism (including militarism, nationalism, authoritarianism, and anti-communism) as well as the racism, homophobia, and antisemitism inherent in the related ideology of Nazism are more traditionally linked with the right. I also changed the bizarre statement that fascism as an ideology was discredited because of the military defeat of the axis powers. It may have declined as a movement as a result of the defeat of the axis as well as widespread opposition to fascism during and after the war, but that has nothing to do with whether or not it is a reasonable ideology (of course to realize that it's not, all you have to do is read about it). I'd actually like to change that entire paragraph. It's a horribly written hodge-podge of completely unrelated statements, and it ends with inaccurate and pseudo-racist nonsense (which I removed). Arthur Schlesinger's quote at the end is an obvious attempt to build upon the earlier connection between socialism and fascism, and to distance it from conservatives. Of course, the quote (aside from being derived from a misunderstanding of the different manifestations and definitions of the term conservative) makes an important point and should be included in the article, so I did not remove it. It desperately needs some context and analysis however, which I don't feel suited to do, particularly since I don't actually agree with the likely intentions of whoever put up the quote. ~~
- The first edit I made was immediately removed, although my edit was completely even-handed and a much better representation of scholarly opinion. Pierre Laval was hardly a fascist, and Quisling was hardly a socialist. Hayek's comment is at best controversial, and even fascists themselves dispute the connection. It is hardly significant that a young politically engaged person who is dissatisfied with the current order who jump from one radical revolutionary ideology to another completely different one. My edit preserved the fact that many fascists began their lives as socialists, while removing the unstated implication that fascism is a movement of the left, which MOST SERIOUS SCHOLARS know acknowledge is incorrect. I'm going to try editing again with a compromise, but I suspect it will be reverted again. ~~
- Swearing again will result in a block. Bohdan
Edit proposal
As this is a controversial subject, I thought I'd post my edit proposal on the talk page rather than editing the article directly. Claims have been made that not all fascisms were against Christianity, citing Francisco Franco's Fascism as an example. A change to the page has been made, but it has been reverted without answering the matter in depth. A good way to address that issue and at the same time deny it would be making this change:
"Although some Fascist regimes in the past, such as Francoism, have claimed to embrace religion, they have done so only for a matter of political expediency. Every form of totalitarianism is in fact, by its own nature, anti-religious. Totalitarian regimes demand, in fact, the complete submission and devotion of the citizen to the state, and any religion present in the state means a divided allegiance in the believers. In addition, the moral values promoted by religions are clearly at odds with most of the methods employed by totalitarian states. Religion and totalitarianism are therefore to be considered completely incompatible."
What do you think of it? --Maquissar
- Your proposal would meet with better acceptance if you signed it. Try using ~~~~ at the end of your post; the website will add your signature automatically, along with a timestamp.
- I don't know who reverted such a change in the past.
- It sounds like a good addition, and I hope you can provide reference for it. --Ed Poor Talk 10:23, 23 February 2010 (EST)
Sorry, I signed now. What sort of reference are you talking about? There are some interesting studies by certain Yale professors about the relationship between religion and totalitarianism, I could find a quote if needed. --Maquissar 21:33, 23 February 2010 (EST)
I clarified the statement on religion and Franco according to SilvioB's notes. -danq 21:36, 23 February 2010 (EST)
- Dang! That was good. Bohdan, please don't block me for swearing ;-) --Ed Poor Talk 23:42, 23 February 2010 (EST)
Madison Square Garden Rally
The Madison Square Garden rally was not an official US government New Deal program, so it doesn't really belong in that section. It should be mentioned perhaps in an article on the Neutrality Act or other articles, or perhaps in a section here with more context about FDR's own isolationist stance prior to the Lend Lease program. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 19:55, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
- Fair enough, we'll try that. Besides the Neutrality Act, which other articles does the Madison Square Garden rally apply to? Don't want to place it at the wrong article again. Pokeria1 (talk) 20:25, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
- In rereading it, it's not that awkward a flow where it is here, but as I said, it should have more context. American Nazis of that era are usually counted as New Deal enemies, but truth be told some were New Deal isolationists as FDR himself was up until the Lend Lease program.
- The paragraph probably could also be cut n pasted to the bottom of the Molotov-Ribbentrop section of the Neutrality Act. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 21:15, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
- The main concern is not to confuse or group the American Nazi party with the America First movement. The American Nazi party is more aligned with Father Charles Coughlin or Huey Long as extreme outsiders with anti-British, anti-international banker, socialist, and nationalist views. The America First Committee should not be impugned in any light as fascist. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 21:42, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
- Fair enough. I'll see where I can place them. It will be difficult trying to avoid America First being grouped with them, since the two sources I provided earlier seemed to have strongly worded insinuations that they're one and the same. I do know that Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism book does in fact allude to the Madison Square Garden Rally and implies that was the result of the New Deal, though. Pokeria1 (talk) 11:24, 8 April 2018 (EDT)


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Highway patrol supports Operation Stop Arm week
In support of Operation Stop Arm week, the N.C. State Highway Patrol will aggressively enforce stop arm violations and other traffic violations in and around school zones. The operation began Monday and continues through Friday, Oct. 19. The goal is to decrease violations and reduce school bus collisions.
"We must protect our children from traffic dangers," N.C. State Highway Patrol Commander, Col. Micael W. Gilchrist said. "The Highway Patrol will conduct this school bus campaign simultaneously in all North Carolina counties, cracking down on stop arm violations. Motorists who try to pass a stopped school bus will be charged with a violation."
State Highway Patrol reports that passing a stopped school bus is a Class 1 misdemeanor. If convicted, a person will receive five driving points on their license and fines up to $200. Passing a stopped school bus is a Class I Felony if the driver strikes an individual and a Class H Felony should the violation result in death.
To read more of this story, pick up the Tuesday edition of Catawba County's community newspaper, The Observer News Enterprise, at newsstands throughout the county.


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The MySQL server maintains many system variables that indicate how
it is configured. Section 5.1.7, "Server System Variables",
describes the meaning of these variables. Each system variable has
a default value. System variables can be set at server startup
using options on the command line or in an option file. Most of
them can be changed dynamically while the server is running by
means of the
statement, which enables you to modify operation of the server
without having to stop and restart it. You can also use system
variable values in expressions.
There are two scopes in which system variables exist. Global variables affect the overall operation of the server. Session variables affect its operation for individual client connections. A given system variable can have both a global and a session value. Global and session system variables are related as follows:
When the server starts, it initializes each global variable to its default value. These defaults can be changed by options specified on the command line or in an option file. (See Section 4.2.3, "Specifying Program Options".)
The server also maintains a set of session variables for each client that connects. The client's session variables are initialized at connect time using the current values of the corresponding global variables. For example, a client's SQL mode is controlled by the session
sql_modevalue, which is initialized when the client connects to the value of the global
For some system variables, the session value is not initialized from the corresponding global value; if so, that is indicated in the variable description.
System variable values can be set globally at server startup by
using options on the command line or in an option file. When you
use a startup option to set a variable that takes a numeric value,
the value can be given with a suffix of
M, or
G (either uppercase or
lowercase) to indicate a multiplier of 1024,
10242 or
10243; that is, units of kilobytes,
megabytes, or gigabytes, respectively. Thus, the following command
starts the server with an
InnoDB log file size
of 16 megabytes and a maximum packet size of one gigabyte:
mysqld --innodb_log_file_size=16M --max_allowed_packet=1G
Within an option file, those variables are set like this:
The lettercase of suffix letters does not matter;
16M and
16m are equivalent,
as are
1G and
To restrict the maximum value to which a system variable can be
set at runtime with the
statement, specify this maximum by using an option of the form
at server startup. For example, to prevent the value of
innodb_log_file_size from being
increased to more than 32MB at runtime, use the option
Many system variables are dynamic and can be changed at runtime by
using the
statement. For a list, see
Section 184.108.40.206, "Dynamic System Variables". To change a system
variable with
SET, refer
to it by name, optionally preceded by a modifier:
To indicate that a variable is a global variable, precede its name by the
GLOBALkeyword or the
SET GLOBAL max_connections = 1000; SET @@global.max_connections = 1000;
SUPERprivilege is required to set global variables.
To indicate that a variable is a session variable, precede its name by the
SESSIONkeyword or either the
SET SESSION sql_mode = 'TRADITIONAL'; SET @@session.sql_mode = 'TRADITIONAL'; SET @@sql_mode = 'TRADITIONAL';
Setting a session variable normally requires no special privilege, although there are exceptions that require the
SUPERprivilege (such as
sql_log_bin). A client can change its own session variables, but not those of any other client.
@@local.are synonyms for
If no modifier is present,
SETchanges the session variable.
An error occurs under these circumstances:
Use of
SET GLOBAL(or
@@global.) when setting a variable that has only a session value:
mysql> SET GLOBAL sql_log_bin = ON; ERROR 1231 (42000): Variable 'sql_log_bin' can't be set to the value of 'ON'
Omission of
@@global.) when setting a variable that has only a global value:
mysql> SET max_connections = 1000; ERROR 1229 (HY000): Variable 'max_connections' is a GLOBAL variable and should be set with SET GLOBAL
Use of
SET SESSION(or
@@SESSION.) when setting a variable that has only a global value:
mysql> SET SESSION max_connections = 1000; ERROR 1229 (HY000): Variable 'max_connections' is a GLOBAL variable and should be set with SET GLOBAL
The preceding modifiers apply only to system variables. An error occurs for attempts to apply them to user-defined variables, stored procedure or function parameters, or stored program local variables.
statement can contain multiple variable assignments, separated by
commas. This statement assigns values to a user-defined variable
and a system variable:
SET @x = 1, SESSION sql_mode = '';
If you set multiple system variables, the most recent
GLOBAL or
SESSION modifier
in the statement is used for following assignments that have no
modifier specified.
Examples of multiple-variable assignment:
SET GLOBAL sort_buffer_size = 1000000, SESSION sort_buffer_size = 1000000;
SET @@global.sort_buffer_size = 1000000, @@local.sort_buffer_size = 1000000;
SET GLOBAL max_connections = 1000, sort_buffer_size = 1000000;
If any variable assignment in a
statement fails, the entire statement fails and no variables are
If you change a session system variable, the value remains in effect within your session until you change the variable to a different value or the session ends. The change has no effect on other sessions.
If you change a global system variable, the value is remembered
and used for new sessions until you change the variable to a
different value or the server exits. The change is visible to any
client that accesses the global variable. However, the change
affects the corresponding session variable only for clients that
connect after the change. The global variable change does not
affect the session variable for any current client sessions (not
even the session within which the
statement occurred).
To make a global system variable setting permanent so that it applies across server restarts, you should also set it in an option file.
To set a
GLOBAL value to the compiled-in MySQL
default value or a
SESSION variable to the
current corresponding
GLOBAL value, set the
variable to the value
DEFAULT. For example, the
following two statements are identical in setting the session
value of
max_join_size to the
current global value:
SET @@session.max_join_size=DEFAULT;
SET @@session.max_join_size=@@global.max_join_size;
Not all system variables can be set to
In such cases, assigning
DEFAULT results in an
An error occurs for attempts to assign
to user-defined variables, stored procedure or function
parameters, or stored program local variables.
To refer to the value of a system variable in expressions, use one
of the
@@-modifiers. For example, you can
retrieve values in a
statement like this:
SELECT @@global.sql_mode, @@session.sql_mode, @@sql_mode;
For a reference to a system variable in an expression as
@@ (rather
than with
@@global. or
@@session.), MySQL returns the session value if
it exists and the global value otherwise. This differs from
SET @@, which always refers to
the session value.
var_name =
Suffixes for specifying a value multiplier can be used when
setting a variable at server startup, but not to set the value
at runtime. On the other hand, with
SET you
can assign a variable's value using an expression, which is not
true when you set a variable at server startup. For example, the
first of the following lines is legal at server startup, but the
second is not:
shell> mysql --max_allowed_packet=16M
shell> mysql --max_allowed_packet=16*1024*1024
Conversely, the second of the following lines is legal at runtime, but the first is not:
mysql> SET GLOBAL max_allowed_packet=16M;
mysql> SET GLOBAL max_allowed_packet=16*1024*1024;
Some system variables can be enabled with the
statement by setting them to
ON or
1, or disabled by setting them to
OFF or
0. However, to set
such a variable on the command line or in an option file, you
must set it to
1 or
setting it to
ON or
will not work. For example, on the command line,
--delay_key_write=1 works but
--delay_key_write=ON does not.
To display system variable names and values, use the
SHOW VARIABLES statement:
mysql> SHOW VARIABLES;
| Variable_name | Value |
| auto_increment_increment | 1 |
| auto_increment_offset | 1 |
| automatic_sp_privileges | ON |
| back_log | 50 |
| basedir | /home/mysql/ |
| binlog_cache_size | 32768 |
| bulk_insert_buffer_size | 8388608 |
| character_set_client | utf8 |
| character_set_connection | utf8 |
| character_set_database | latin1 |
| character_set_filesystem | binary |
| character_set_results | utf8 |
| character_set_server | latin1 |
| character_set_system | utf8 |
| character_sets_dir | /home/mysql/share/mysql/charsets/ |
| collation_connection | utf8_general_ci |
| collation_database | latin1_swedish_ci |
| collation_server | latin1_swedish_ci |
| innodb_additional_mem_pool_size | 1048576 |
| innodb_autoextend_increment | 8 |
| innodb_buffer_pool_size | 8388608 |
| innodb_checksums | ON |
| innodb_commit_concurrency | 0 |
| innodb_concurrency_tickets | 500 |
| innodb_data_file_path | ibdata1:10M:autoextend |
| innodb_data_home_dir | |
| version | 5.6.37-log |
| version_comment | Source distribution |
| version_compile_machine | i686 |
| version_compile_os | suse-linux |
| wait_timeout | 28800 |
With a
LIKE clause, the statement
displays only those variables that match the pattern. To obtain a
specific variable name, use a
clause as shown:
SHOW VARIABLES LIKE 'max_join_size';
SHOW SESSION VARIABLES LIKE 'max_join_size';
To get a list of variables whose name match a pattern, use the
% wildcard character in a
LIKE clause:
SHOW VARIABLES LIKE '%size%';
SHOW GLOBAL VARIABLES LIKE '%size%';
Wildcard characters can be used in any position within the pattern
to be matched. Strictly speaking, because
_ is
a wildcard that matches any single character, you should escape it
\_ to match it literally. In practice, this
is rarely necessary.
SHOW VARIABLES, if you specify
GLOBAL nor
MySQL returns
SESSION values.
The reason for requiring the
GLOBAL keyword
when setting
GLOBAL-only variables but not when
retrieving them is to prevent problems in the future:
Were we to remove a
SESSIONvariable that has the same name as a
GLOBALvariable, a client with the
SUPERprivilege might accidentally change the
GLOBALvariable rather than just the
SESSIONvariable for its own connection.
Were we to add a
SESSIONvariable with the same name as a
GLOBALvariable, a client that intends to change the
GLOBALvariable might find only its own
SESSIONvariable changed.
Source: http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=35372 which says
Updated the description for character_set_client:
The character set for statements that arrive from the client. The
session value of this variable is set using the character set
requested by the client when the client connects to the server. (Many
clients support a --default-character-set option to enable this
character set to be specified explicitly.) The global
value of the variable is used to set the session value in cases when
the client-requested value is unknown or not available, or the server
is configured to ignore client requests:
* The client is from a version of MySQL older than MySQL 4.1, and thus
does not request a character set.
* The client requests a character set not known to the server. For
example, a Japanese-enabled client requests sjis when connecting to a
server not configured with sjis support.
* mysqld was started with the --skip-character-set-client-handshake
option, which causes it to ignore client character set configuration.
This reproduces MySQL 4.0 behavior and is useful should you wish to
upgrade the server without upgrading all the clients.


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$250M recommendation for Oregon Capitol upgrade
SALEM — Shoring up the 75-year-old Oregon Capitol to withstand earthquakes and updating electrical, plumbing and ventilation systems would cost about $250 million.
The Capitol Master Plan Advisory Committee recommended the improvements Monday, and a full report will be delivered next month to the Legislative Administration Committee.
The Statesman Journal reports that if lawmakers decide to approve the work, funding would require bond issues. Construction would take three or four years.
The Capitol was built in 1938 after fires destroyed previous buildings in 1935 and 1855. Office wings were added in 1977.
The Capitol was damaged in a 1993 earthquake that forced the closure of the rotunda for more than two years.
Information from: Statesman Journal, http://www.statesmanjournal.com