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With only seven hours left in the series' final harrowing day, Jack Bauer sets out to avenge the tragic life-changing events that he has endured. As things become even more personal for Jack, he heads to CTU for an intense meeting after learning of a devastating development. Meanwhile, on the verge of achieving peace on a scale that has eluded the world for generations, President Taylor becomes deeply conflicted when former President Logan sits down at the bargaining table. Guest Cast: Bob Gunton as Ethan Kanin; Frank John Hughes as Tim Woods; Necar Zadegan as Dalia Hassan; Gregory Itzin as Charles Logan; Sarah Hollis as Presidential Aide; Graham McTavish as Mikhail Novakovich.9 p.m. Monday. Fox.
April 19, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST
by pantera777
April 19, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST
by AndoSoundsLikeAMong
I just hope Chloe makes it out alive, but then she'll probably have to make it through the movie. Kim too. Characters never get away, they just keep coming back until they die. Bill was tough last year, and Walker buying it gave this otherwise fairly lack-lustre season a real jolt of that old 24 feeling...
April 19, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
She'll be running CTU in the movie and, holy Gods!, they've got a mole problem!
April 19, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST
by ShabbyBlue
...heading back to L.A., instead of spending quality time in his apartment. He was just playing with fire there.
April 19, 2010, 1:46 a.m. CST
by Shermdawg
24 Clocks In Record Low As MacGruber Gets Raw!!
April 19, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST
by dj_bollocks
Think he probably will be in 7 episodes time don't you think ?
 Foiled by those pesky FOX execs...
April 19, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
April 19, 2010, 3:05 a.m. CST
by V'Shael
every single 24 posting ever made by Herc. (At least it feels like that.) And the character appeared in Season 1 and 4 for tiny tiny amounts of screen time.
 Obsessive stalker much?
April 19, 2010, 4 a.m. CST
by DC Films
Bauer will go rogue after chesty's death - hunting down the Russian diplomat - and his actions will threaten the peace process.

Thus, Chloe's promotion will become a poison chalice when she's ordered by the Prez to stop Bauer by any means (CTU will be trying to kill Bauer).

It's a nice twist, but predictable.

Obviously the Russians will have to re-enter the peace talks to give the Prez enough motivation to order Bauer's death (and i'm sure Logan will enjoy helping her make that decision).
April 19, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST
by Holeman
Been with it since the beginning and Renee getting offed last week was as predictable as the mole and the attack on CTU and everything else that has been choreographed on this fucking show since Season 4. The last time it really surprised me was when Chance's hand went flying off at the end of season 3. Let it die and hopefully be replaced with something that can maintain a little originality for at least as long as this show did.
April 19, 2010, 4:26 a.m. CST
by Drsambeckett1984
I'm still loving this show, it's great, killing Walker was harsh, but Jack Bauer isnt allowed to be happy.
 The season finale is going to be devastating.
April 19, 2010, 4:36 a.m. CST
by V'Shael
It's a nice family moment.
April 19, 2010, 4:38 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
that Vic Mackey will make a cameo to shoot Terry Crowley in the head again.

I'm at peace with however they end the show, as long as it's not Jack waking up from a dream, stepping out of the shower or having the camera pulling back to reveal a snow globe.
April 19, 2010, 4:38 a.m. CST
by SithMenace
before the end of the season. Please. But I think he's gonna be Bauer's Blofeld/Vader for the movies.
April 19, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
April 19, 2010, 4:46 a.m. CST
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
April 19, 2010, 4:47 a.m. CST
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
April 19, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST
by bobbyjoe
...why doesn't the show go in a different direction? Instead of getting revenge, Renee's death causes Jack to finally go nuts. We realize that Jack's finally had too much, and his poor mind finally snaps. He'll do anything to keep Renee alive in his head. Chloe calls a meeting at CTU, and Jack shows up wearing Renee's clothes, speaking in a Pythonesque high-pitched voice and insisting everyone call him "Renee." Chloe is trying to prevent global disaster and Jack won't stop talking about how his high heels are really pinching his ankles. In the final episode of the series, Jack-as-Renee hears it's the President's birthday and shows up at the UN to sing "Happy Birthday" to her in the exact same style as Marilyn Monroe did to JFK. Then Jack locks the President in a broom closet, and the final image of the series is Jack wearing one of the President's dresses, wearing a bad wig with lipstick smeared all over his face, saying over and over again "I'M the President now! Aren't I a pretty President?" as the show fades to black.
April 19, 2010, 5:54 a.m. CST
by V'Shael
But sadly, never to happen. Jack is still the torture-loving poster boy for the republican party. They'd never embrace a mentally deranged cross dresser as a national icon... oh wait. Rudy Giuliani.

I stand corrected. Carry on.
April 19, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST
by runawayboulder
I doubt anybody will watch this live. Everyone will now DVR it.
April 19, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST
by Drsambeckett1984
I read something very different, an interview with Gregory Itzin (Logan), he said the writers concieved two very different endings, but eventually went with the unhappier version.
April 19, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST
by dailysportspages
Payback's a bitch.
April 19, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST
by V'Shael
in his interview with Jonathan Ross last saturday. (You can find it on youtube.)
April 19, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST
by Rob0729
The last episode was a real milestone, the first back to back episodes that end with a silent clock. Really don't know why President Foreign Elvis got his own silent clock when Tony Almeda didn't get one when he "died". He was the only character to get a silent clock that who wasn't on at least two seasons.
April 19, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST
by Ballbag
....is again pulling the strings in an act of revenge. The reason I say this is because I was under the impression that Michael Madsen was the big bad however it seems like he is going to be a friend of Jack. If thats the case then there is no real visible big bad this season.
April 19, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST
by rogueleader66
just stop watching the show if it sucks so much. people are tired of the bitching, whining and the "oh i predicted that from day one" "I knew that was gonna happen". So do us all a favor, shut up, don't watch the show and end your stupid whiny know it all bullshit. Its tired, its boring.
That being said, the show seems to be ending well, started off slow this season but has picked up considerable steam. Hope Jack flips out this week because of Renee's death, and racks up a good body count. Would be nice to see him beat down Starbuck.
April 19, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST
by syn_flood
This season has started to actually kind of rock. I am actually looking forward to the next episode for the first time this year... hopefully they can keep up this momentum.
April 19, 2010, 7:46 a.m. CST
by TheBostonStrangler
If so it would be the first day that our favorite Secret Service Agent didn't make an appearance. A travesty for sure!
April 19, 2010, 7:50 a.m. CST
by DanielKurland
Come on, it IS the series finale*.
April 19, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST
by malificus
..any other way. Surely you don't think Jack is destined to live a normal, blase life filled with propane burgers and lawn mowing? The only way you'd catch Jack near a soccer field is if the ball was filled with anthrax dust and the ref was a terrorist plant.
April 19, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST
by mistergreen
It's like when I stopped watching Heros.
April 19, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST
by jimbojones123
Last weeks move to off Renee was right at the core of the biggest problem with this show over the past 5 years. Unnecessary killing of core characters that do not help the plot but just piss off fans. You would think the first 4-5 times they did it would have been enough, huh?
April 19, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST
by austinguy
Best guess for final hour: Logan goes out in final minutes in one of these scenarios: 1) Jack learns that Logan killed Palmer, does the deed; 2) Jack stops at last minutes, Logan gets in limo which is blown up by Russians, who finally learned that Logan was behind attack on Suvarov in S5; 3) return of Tony, who finally gets his revenge for Michelle. Your guess?
April 19, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST
by mikkoscassadine
Jack Bauer helps the smoke monster off the island and gets to live happily ever after with renee in the sideways universe.
April 19, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST
by Waka_Flocka
April 19, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST
by jimbojones123
Jack and Tony talked enough about it last season.
April 19, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST
by jimbojones123
She was nuts.
April 19, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST
by Miyamoto_Musashi
I want to see Jack, find out that his granddaughter has been kidnapped, taken to some small island, or estate.
 Jack then raids an armoury, and we see him go crazy like Arnie at the end of Commando.
 The end shot is Jack walking away from a destroyed mansion, bodies everywhere, covered in blood, carrying his granddaughter and with a huge smile.
April 19, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST
by Jack_Bauer
April 19, 2010, 10 a.m. CST
by Jack_Bauer
Aaron is confirmed as being in this season yes
April 19, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST
by MisterE
But he needs to be stopped before he gets another DUI! Dammit, officer!
April 19, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST
by jtp8000
I haven't seen that anywhere- where did you get the confirmation?
April 19, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST
by AshokForgiven
Not really, this season has been awful.
April 19, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST
by HoboCode
God I fucking love this show, warts and all.
April 19, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST
by KoolerThanJesus
Maybe we should take over this talk back for, I don't know, a show with actual writing and creativity like Damages.
April 19, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST
by arby64
Jack Bauer is arrested and shares a cell with Tony
April 19, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST
by AKA_Gern_Blanston
Damages is overhyped and boring. Period. Not Mad Men levels of boring overhypenation (yes I know that's not a word), but boring nonetheless.
April 19, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST
by AKA_Gern_Blanston
April 19, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST
by BigTuna
Yes, killing strong supporting characters is been beaten to death (no pun intended). Enough. It's the last season, can't they try something a little new?
April 19, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST
by ORIONgods
April 19, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST
by ORIONgods
April 19, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST
by moviemaniac-7
and I hope they can keep up this momentum until the clock stops ticking at 3:59:57, 3:59:58, 3:59:59, 4:00:00...
April 19, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST
by Thanos0145
WHEN HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO KILL OFF FRECKLES BAUER. It was bad enought that the writers retconned Renee's origin to include that Russian backstory that had Renee being raped. Jack having sex with a fragile and damaged woman who is then killed is crappy storytelling.
Just give Jack the silent clock already.(Tony working for Logan kills Jack, THE END.)
April 19, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST
by Stalkeye
And that's pretty hard to top IMO.
April 19, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
That SPARTACUS finale pretty much destroyed everything that's currently on TV.
I think the best 24 can hope for is to go quietly into the good night.
April 19, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST
by TheBostonStrangler
Good news about Aaron! I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for him!
April 19, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST
by Thanos0145
Howard Gordon should see that and take some notes.
Spartacus hasn't fallen in love with Mira (yet) but still bangs her and SHE STAYS ALIVE. "If you want to touch your wife again, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME," that was bad ass. Howard Gordon will probably make Jack cry and ask for forgiveness for messing up the peace deal.
April 19, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST
by V'Shael
Poor sods.
April 19, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST
by XAOS
With Chloe in charge of CTU applying basic common sense and competence, all domestic terror plots will be nipped months before Jack Bauer would have to be brought in with ONLY 24 HOURS! to stop them
April 19, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
What this show needs is some Jack on Jack action! I mean Jack drinkin some Jack - whiskey you pervs! Jack all fucked up stumbling around CTU stroking it for Chesty's ghost!
April 19, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST
by bourne7855
are you guys talking about the show on starz, blood and sand i think? i got it on netflix instant watch but havent had a chance yet to watch it. sounds like i need too. i think the last half of the season has been great. yes some same tired bullshit but with focus mainly on jack and the intensity ramped up is basically all i ask for at this point, plus the movies sound promising
April 19, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
You should def see it.
April 19, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST
by Thanos0145
Yes and it is the one of best new show on cable. The first few episodes are weak but the show gets better and better reaching the satisfying Season finale.
April 19, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST
by AshokForgiven
What the heck is that, I thought Starz shows were rubbish. Some some new drama on their network with Dennis Hopper and it sucked. I might have to check it out once Damages ends. DAMAGES ROCKS btw, and deserves a TB waaaaay more than 24!
April 19, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST
by Stalkeye
i thought I would just throw it out there as last ep was that DAMN good! I just might rewatch the entire season via Netflix.I feel 24's last Season may lack that "Oh, shit" moment when compared to Spartacus.we shall see.
April 19, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST
by ennio
After they hit the high-water mark in season 5, this series took a serious nose-dive. The twists used to be mind-blowing; now they're a joke. When Starbuck was revealed to be a mole, I burst out laughing. The formula hasn't worked for a long time. I AM going to miss Chesty McFreckles. Mmmm...
April 19, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST
by Stalkeye
That drama you were refering to is the television adaptation of the movie, Crash.It was disapointing in many ways despite having it's moments.
Spartacus is the highest rated series on Starz thus far, so I highly recommend checking out at least the first 4 eps before giving it a final verdict.
April 19, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Definitely check it out on Netflix. The first episode may not really grab you but if you give it 3 or 4 more eps, I think you will be richly rewarded.
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April 19, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
I don't mean "ban;" I mean "eliminate" as in "with a bullet."
April 19, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST
by Henry Fool
Claudia also tussled with heroin Jack and ended up shot dead in a car while her son watched. And let us not forget Audrey, who was a vegetable the last time we saw her.
April 19, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST
by V'Shael
A lot of potential viewers could be turned off by the really poor showing in the first couple of episodes.
April 19, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST
by Rene_Belloq_12inch_Figure
April 19, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST
by SoupDragon
Seriously, are they just going to leave the poor SOB laying in that vent for the rest of the series?
April 19, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST
by tomdolan04
...seriously Kiefer, they need to just plain go nuts and end with a finale that is original Prisoner style 'what just happened'.
 Personally I'd like a fifteen way mexican face/off where everyone in CTU pulls guns on each other declaring themselves to be moles. Jack enters CTU to find bodies everyone. With each body he finds, they whisper to him "You're too late Bauer - I'm not the baddie, the man behind it is T..." Then dies in his arms. Jack proceeds to do this with every person till he exits. <p Jack leaves for the White House. He finds Ethan across he desk with a gun in his hand in a direct shot-for-shot pose of how he was found dead in Shawshank. He goes to the main chamber and finds a dog with headphones at a control desk. Jack cries, falls to the floor and says 'so you were behind everything'. The silent (hill 2) clock plays, followed by jingly music and woofs. And a shot of naked mandy at the end saying 'thanks for playing'.
April 19, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST
by tomdolan04
Chloe frowns. THE END.
April 19, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST
by Amazing Maurice
The way things are shaping up, its looks as though Jack is going to find himself in prison by the end of the series.
It would be a cool, if cliched, way to start the movie. You can almost picture it - The Government offering him release if he helps them out.
 It writes itself.
April 19, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
by Drsambeckett1984
Jack defeats the villains, everything seemed fine, we learn Kim hasn't actually left New York because all the planes were grounded.
 Jack and Kim meet in a diner for coffee, they have a nice talk about everything that happens over the years.
 A waitress with long blonde hair serves their food, Kim eats and starts to choke. Jack grabs Kim but she dies in his arms. The final shots are of the waitress leaving the diner through the back, ditching the blonde wig and getting into a waiting car, revealing it to be none other than Nina Myers!
April 19, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST
by Jubs
with Jack getting congratulatory hugs and handshakes from his peers, and then getting killed by some teenage car jacker on his way to the airport. Terrorist with a nuke? No problem. Stringy, desperate 16-yr. old car jacker? Dead Jack. Yeah, that would be good. Man... I miss Rack's tits already.
April 19, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST
by Jubs
No talkback for the potential series finale of Damages?
April 19, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST
by AshokForgiven
Seriously... a final season without NakedMandy?

 Fail.
April 19, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST
by dingleberryjerry
hey you noobs! The REAL reason they killed Renee..Annie Weirshing is very pregnant and is as big as a house!! Try hiding that!!!
April 19, 2010, 5 p.m. CST
by YackBacker
They killed off her character because they love doing that shit. It's 24, not CHEERS.
April 19, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST
by Stalkeye
The ending goes like this. After taking out the bad guys, Jack meets Kim ford dinner at a Diner.While enjoying onion rings as an appertizer, kim deposits a token in the table jukebox.The song by Journey (Don't stop belivvvveeeing..) is playing as two suspicious looking men walk in the diner. Jack looks at Kim only for the screen to suddenly turn black.
How orginal was that...oh, wait!
April 19, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
Jack survives cause he's Jack, looks at the Cougar carnage, shrugs, gets into his car, flies out to LA. Last shot of the show, the pilot says "Yes, Max, everything is going according to schedule" and pan over to reveal who is flying the plane - EVIL TONY! AND HIS CO-PILOT IS BEHROOZ! AND LOGAN IS A STEWARDESS! BAH-DUM-BAH-DUM-BAH-DUM-BAH-DUM!!
April 19, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST
by bourne7855
il def check it out since yall all vouched for it. trust most opinions on this site
April 19, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST
by chromedome
Jack is gunned down in a fire fight--with his last breath he gasps "Dammit" as he squeezes the trigger and kills the guy who killed him. Eyes shut. Stillness. Fade to silent clock....
Silent clock morphs to silent heart rate monitor--we see a blurry scene from Jack's point of view...
Slowly the image becomes clearer: Olivia Wilde is nose to nose with him, shining a light into his eyes.
Startled, she shouts over her shoulder, "Get Dr. House!"
Change to shot of room: Kim and Mandy are nurses working frantically in the room. Freckles is a nurse rushing to find House. Cuddy runs in, a look of surprise...
 "he just woke from his 8-day coma"
Jack is a used-care salesman....
April 19, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST
by ORIONgods
kils everyone,gets ronnnie and has afist fight with jack on top of the white house.......*poof* lost . best ending ever
April 19, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST
by Dradis Contact
When I saw the title of your post I thought you meant Lynne Kresge.
April 19, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST
by malificus
toe tapping, getting more pissed by the moment while a piece of luggage rolls by in the background with Jack stuffed in it, headed back to China.
April 19, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST
by punto
why is that relevant? will he be running around with a boner for the rest of the season?
April 19, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST
by fiester
And it's canceled. Why does it rate a talkback?
April 19, 2010, 8 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST
by RedBull_Werewolf
Jack knew next to nothing personal about rene, of course he's sad she's dead but he realizes that even with her he was still alone
fans bitching about jack not being able to get a break need to shut up, jack is like batman or james bond, he's too driven and good at what he does that he can never give that up to settle down. I love that aspect of the character and if FOX can properly handle it jack bauer could easily fill the void left by no james bond or jason bourne spy films
April 19, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST
by MrBlackJackBauer
LMAO@ me just now realizing its 9am in the morning.
 hahah why do you have to move her?? wht the fuck do you have going on that you have to move her NOW, like a few minutes after? WHAT KINDA FUCKING NURSE IS THIS? bitch just asked if he is gonna be okay after carrying a fucking woman shot up and covered in blood. IS HE GONNA BE OKAY?? this is why mexicans dont belong in the ER. that got damn pinata logic.
 hahaha bitch ganked some rain boots for Bauer. nigga bout to stomp on these russians like its an east coast 90s rap video
April 19, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST
by MrBlackJackBauer
LMAO@ this dude being fucking arraigned ALREADY. it reminds me of back to the future 2 "the law moves much quickly now that we have abolished all lawyers!"
 got dammit logins white man smile PISSES ME OFF TO NO END!
 and now Im reminded of his turkey neck in glorious HD every step of the way.
 hahah @ this ruskie eating french toast. i dont know why but its cracking me up.
 UGH GET PRESIDENT GOBBLE OUT OF AN EXTREME CLOSE UP
April 19, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST
by MrBlackJackBauer
how the fuck did Jack get to the court room in NY that fast? niggas using star trek jump protocols, I need the schematics STAT
 HAHAHAH@ sergei's HOOOOOLLY SHIT look when Jack mentioned Freckles was fam bam.
 AWWWWW SHIT STARBUCK FINNA GET TOSSED
April 19, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST
by RedBull_Werewolf
and i mean that as in beat her to death with his fists, not the other thing
April 19, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST
by jimbojones123
April 19, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
Chloe making bad decisions straight out the gate.
April 19, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST
by jimbojones123
No, my show got cancelled because of the crappy writing.
April 19, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST
by RedBull_Werewolf
the victim gets all fuzzy
apparently jack never saw batman?
April 19, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
Assuming he lives.
April 19, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST
by jimbojones123
The Prez just outed Logan
April 19, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST
by RedBull_Werewolf
i was all sad panda when i heard it was just the movie, but now i'm all happy panda that i can watch it at home starting thursday
April 19, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
His master plan? To dig up David Palmer's corpse, fuck it, and put two more bullets in him.
April 19, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
And Taylor is like Luke Skywalker. "Use your aggressive feelings, Alison! Let the hate FLOW through you!"
April 19, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
That last scene with Logan was good stuff.
April 19, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST
by gandalftheblack
April 19, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST
by symphy
How many shows could pull off that kind of gravitas, between Logan and Taylor. Kick. Ass.
April 19, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
...WITHOUT Renee being killed.
April 19, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST
by cymbalta4thedevil
Dana aka Frack Bauer escapes with the assistance of her Bisexual lover Naked Mandy. You know you want it...
April 19, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
They've COMPLETELY obliterated the established character of Taylor. No fucking way the character they've written to this point trusts the Russians, no matter how hard Cherry Jones is trying, and almost succeeding, to sell it. Total.Fucking.Bullshit.
April 19, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST
by seagrass
Why, in the name of ZEUS'S BUTTHOLE, can't we have both?
April 19, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST
by chaseguy17
This is by far the best political plot the show has seen. Honestly. This is entirely believable. The russians hands are tied because logan knows. They are forced to go through the agreement and they won't try anything else. Taylor and Logan know this. It would be like bringing peace to israel which has seen war for over 100 years. This is huge huge stuff. It would be the biggest accomplishment the world has seen. This is ridiculously good writing and the acting is terrific.
April 19, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST
by seagrass
April 19, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
But I disagree about the writing. It might resonate politically, but it's completely out of character for the past two years they've spent developing Taylor. It just doesn't jive.
April 19, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST
by cymbalta4thedevil
President Taylor is Jack's last friend in the government. If she's willing to compromise herself for this peace treaty and he goes rogue looking for justice that's a major game changer for the rest of the season.
April 19, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST
by L.H.Puttgrass
Cuz he is pissed!!
April 19, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST
by seagrass
*shakes head*
April 19, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST
by L.H.Puttgrass
April 19, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
April 19, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
April 19, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST
by seagrass
different from any other season? This is bad writing, people. Just because it's well-acted doesn't make it good.
April 19, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
April 19, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST
by chaseguy17
She has always been more about the "World View" rather than the US. That's kind of her approach. She has been about improving the US image. She was willing to let americans die because she refused to pull out of Sangala. This year she refused to turn in Hassan because she wanted to keep the peace treaty. Her world image and world peace means everything to her. If you can't see this...I don't know what show you've been watching. This is entirely in character for her.
April 19, 2010, 9 p.m. CST
by cymbalta4thedevil
OK instead: Jack gives up, lands the helicopter & gets debriefed for the next 6 hours in jail. Happy?
April 19, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST
by blogintomystery
But this time feels a bit different. It's more like Jack is going rogue in a Snake Plissken "fuck the world" type way. "Screw world peace, my new snatch got whacked before I even had the chance to break it in."
April 19, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST
by symphy
Taylor was willing to let 200,000 people die in NYC for the greater good of this peace accord. She's carefully developed an almost incoherent passion over the accord over the past 18 hours (as she's sleep deprived -- I really wish they'd address the sleeplessness like they did in the first two seasons).
April 19, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
Says exactly the opposite about Taylor to me. Those were valid, moral stances. There is no moral stance in LYING to the woman whose husband was murdered, silently condoning the conspiracy of the Russians, and signing a "peace" treaty that's been forced by blackmail and coercion. It was well played, and well acted. But completely unbelievable. Sorry. We'll have to disagree.
April 19, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST
by Crow3711
I thought that was a really good episode. It finally feels tense, and even though Renee is dead, which sucked, at least all the characters actions in this episode are believable, and exciting. And Jack stealing the helicopter is just awesome. My only kinda negative thought is too many stories are taking that angle of "the truth isn't good enough" liek The Dark Knight and Watchmen. I just feel like that's been used a lot in the last year or two. However, it actually works really well in this situation I think. If I were the President in this situation, I would make the same call I think. The truth isn't good enough in that situation, you have to try and make the peace however you can. Fuck those Russian bastards
April 19, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
First Charles Logan and now Alison Taylor's presidency for moral compromises facilitated simply by being in close proximity to the aforementioned Charles Logan. Keep in mind, last season Taylor sold out her own daughter for buying a hit man to kill Jonas "Mass Murderer" Hodges. I love this show. It's so in the moment and be damned with what came before.
April 19, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST
by chaseguy17
It's more personal for him. He's not doing it for the better good. He knows the better good would be the peace agreement. He was willing to agree with Taylor to not turn in Hassan and let the bomb go off. He saw the bigger good of the peace agreement. Now that Renee has died and the same thing in essence is happening, Jack is going against the entire country for personal reasons. This is the perfect way to end the series i feel. We will likely see Jack starting to kill people. I bet Jack kills Cole. What Taylor is doing is not a bad decision. It's ultimately her call. The russians hands are tied and they won't try anything because they know Logan knows about what they did. They concede. The US wins vs. Russia because the US caught them red handed. If you start arresting people you lose out on the peace agreement. I think many of you fail to see how big a peace agreement is...because you guys don't pay attention to world affairs. This would be like bringing peace to Israel which has seen war for over a hundred years. Arresting Russian officials could start a war with Russia. Russia has nuclear weapons. Taylor is arguably making the right call. Jack agreed with Taylor's sketch call earlier...but now he's letting his personal feelings get the best of him.
April 19, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST
by lock67ca
She's just as bad as Logan. That bitch needs to go down hard!
April 19, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
Also, the daughter was kind of a bitch anyway. I do buy that Taylor would sell out Jack's quest for justice just so there can finally be peace in the middle east. As someone said above, she is a big picture girl
April 19, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST
by haywood
In the old days, Jack would have beaten up the two security officers in the elevator, a nice Jack hand to hand fight. Throw out the helicopter. Get back some of that kinetic Jack energy, a good foot chase is worth a boring Helicopter taking off.. and its cheaper to stage also.
April 19, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST
by chaseguy17
I don't see how you guys don't see that Taylor has arguably made the right choice. They caught the Russians red handed and the Russians would never try something like that again. But if you start arresting the big russian politicians you risk war with Russia. Russia has nuclear weapons. You also kill the peace agreement which would bring peace to a country where thousands die each year and they have been fighting for over a hundred years. It would be like the biggest world peace accomplishment in history. Russia is punished because they have to go through the agreement now. They also can be blackmailed for all eternity.
April 19, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST
by RedBull_Werewolf
why bitch that theres no 3D when you wouldn't be able to watch it in 3D anyways. Thats like a amputee complaining that running shoes don't come in his size
April 19, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
Which I do buy, because it's interesting to see her compromise like that. Jack doesn't do compromises, unless it can get him to a bigger target. Taylor's bigger target is world peace, Jack's bigger target is finding out who was behind the attacks and justice for Freckles. But Taylor is motivated by politics, not morality. The other one is Jack's department. Yes, she was acting out of moral authority during the Sangala crisis, but it was going towards a peaceful ending, which would be politically motivated. She would have made a difference acting in Sangala, on a worldwide scale. She is making a difference signing this peace treaty, on a worldwide scale. Rene simply doesn't matter on that level, but it's not a correct moral choice.
April 19, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST
by mdf2
Nothing to do with the overarching plot, but I find the similarities in name -- the first is a direct translation, after all -- not to mention their positions, Mike being the right hand of the Pres for so many years oddly funny. And after Charles Logan's Julius Caesar quote, I think someone should take the time to quote President Taylor a little Christopher Marlowe or Goethe, so she can be reminded of Faust...or possibly Neville Chamberlain.
April 19, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
I don't even give enough of a fuck about this season to argue any points. It's been so fucking horrible.
April 19, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
by batjac
Taylor is so pitifully wrong and weak. She is not brave but a pyscho. Peace in the Middle East--farce. Russian allies-farce. Betraying Jack---beyond dumb. She gets whats coming to her. Good for her VP though---The VP is about to get the golden ticket.
April 19, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST
by Shermdawg
I'm also not buying.
April 19, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST
by seagrass
Jack killed Curtis, a friend and colleague. Why would he even hesitate to kill Cole, who he barely even knows??
April 19, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST
by jimbojones123
I shouldn't need to explain myself
April 19, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST
by YackBacker
Not because of Jack going rogue, that was to be expected, but for Taylor making a deal with the Devil and "torpedoing" her own presidency in the process. Her decision to go along with Logan's plan will be her downfall. Awesome.
April 19, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST
by lock67ca
..but it's turned into one of the best seasons in the last few episodes. I said a few weeks ago that they were probably getting all the weaker episodes out of the way at the start of the season (rather than having it drag in the middle, as it usually does). Looks like that's exactly what happened. Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. Here's hoping for a strong finish.
April 19, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST
by L.H.Puttgrass
And now they will all have to deal with Jack's somewhat tired expression of slight discomfort and emotional apathy.
 I'm hoping for many people tell Jack exactly what he doesn't want to hear so that he completely wigs out and begins taking out people just because they 'look' like they might be full of shit!!
 Think about it Jack! Only a few hours ago you were with your family, getting ready to do things you've been waiting to do for years! A normal life with the ones you love.
 And those fucks have screwed that over for you yet again!
 I say, "Cry, HAVOC! and let slip the dogs of war, that this foul deed shall smell above the earth with carrion men, groaning for burial."
 After all, Jack's just this guy with a need to share his feelings... Share'em, Jack. And please don't forget Dana.
April 19, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST
by L.H.Puttgrass
I'm hoping for many people TELLING Jack
April 19, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST
by mikeysquirrel
24 has consistently been fun, escapist entertainment from the get-go. There has been episodes here and there that haven't been pure gold, but I think all should be forgiven from the amount of thrills and excitement this show has given us. I have to agree that this season hasn't started off that good, but it got consistently better, and I'm very confident it will end on a high note. I find it amazing that so many so-called fans of the show have nothing better to do than pick this show apart and say that they've given up on it. Yet these same people are still watching it, then have nothing better to do then come on here and whine about it. I, for one, will be saddened by the end of such a brilliant TV show (this and Lost-- that week in May will be a sad week for television indeed). There, I said my peace, now go ahead and tell me how wrong I am. Nothing anyone will say will change my love for 24!
April 19, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
When they're trying to get a series of movies out of this?
April 19, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST
by jimbojones123
April 19, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
Died in the Toilet. Heh.
April 19, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST
by Joe Mannix Jr.
Just noticed Gregory Itzin would make an awesome Nixon with just a little effort.
April 19, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Except for some of the later half stuff with kim and terri the first season was actually a really smart show that seemed like it was grounded in some kind of reality. Even with that dumb subplot shit in the second half it blows away every other season. You can't realistically call this show brilliant for anything it's done after season 3 and that's being generous. I guess your just more easily entertained, cause it's the same shit every year. How is that supposed to work on a show that has become all about exciting moments and cliffhangers strung along with atrocious writing. If they wanted to become a big dumb action show the least they could have done was not repeat themselves over and over.
April 19, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST
by BandysTract
when will we know about s4?
April 19, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
April 19, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
If you're going to say Terri getting amnesia and Kim being menaced by a cougar and Johnny Drama from entourage is "brilliant" than Season 5, y'know the one that won all the awards and was on all the critics best of lists, totally blows those away.
April 19, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST
by dsback
not a bad season finale. maybe would have liked a little more comeuppance for the Tobins or at least a mention of how much money was recovered. would hate to see this show go. if it were to continue, would kinda like to see the flash forwards go. But doesn't sound like it'll be back.
April 19, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST
by BigTuna
Who didn't know Jack would escape? This is tiresome. It's the last season, give us something new.
April 19, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST
by genesis495
Holy shit, that was an awesome finale. Glenn Close needs her third emmy for Patty Hughes, prior to this episode I did not want the series to end, but that was the perfect ending. Maybe this will just be an arc, but damn if it doesn't get renewal it will be ok cause they ended on a really high note.
April 19, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
you got Jack making a run for the border with some of the biggest lame bad guys all season, Nina Meyers setting off a fucking CTU-destroying virus FROM HER GODDAMN CELL PHONE! And season 3 opening with with that stoner blondie kid that means NOTHING to the overall plot of the show at all. If you want to nitpick this show to death about being unrealistic, here's a hint: It. Happens. Every. Single. Fucking. Season. People who say the show was only valid in Seasons 1-3 are just trying to show off how 'leet they are as fans. "See! I wuz watching it b4 they started doing it in January onwards in Season 4 when it got popular and started to SUCK!" Poseurs.
April 19, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST
by BigTuna
Going on. All his weight gain has gone to his throat.
April 19, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
For another go-around with Frobisher somehow, but that finale wrapped up everything pretty nicely too. Made good use of Olyphant's return.
April 19, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST
by CatVutt
It was howlingly bad most of the season, but nailed most of the final third with Gael's brutal end, as well as Chappelle's, and the untoppable glance at the axe-on-the-wall. Pretty iconic stuff there. But yeah, the first 2/3rds was all over the place.
April 19, 2010, 10:42 p.m. CST
by BigTuna
Yes, the plot has massive holes in it, but it's incredibly entertaining and fun.The last 8 hours or so is the most brilliant stuff 24 has ever had. It's nail-biting suspense complete with the brilliant last scene of Jack crying.
April 19, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST
by JKrow21
the season really picked up
April 19, 2010, 10:50 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
No justice, no peace, bitch! Bauer should've "stood down" and let the bomb barbecue your fucking ass and that shithole you call the UN! Bauer gonna bring down dem Ruskies and shove right up your fucking nasty ass, bitch!
What.
A.
Fucking.
Cunt!
It's gonna suck to go down in 24 history as Logan's fucking little bitch, ain't it, Allison?
April 19, 2010, 11:03 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
Just a show. I get a little worked up sometimes. ;-)
April 19, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST
by magnetoelectric
Cant
 Understand
 Normal
 Thinking

April 19, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST
by jimbojones123
Than 24
April 19, 2010, 11:26 p.m. CST
by Dogmatic
By Conspiracy of course i mean the one that has run thru the entire series....naked Mandy appearing throughout the series (hope we see her!) in the 1st season, assassinating Palmer in the 2nd, stephem saunders allowed to escape on purpose (having survived the Drazen mission...main baddie of season 1) to wreak havoc in season 3, mandy again in season 4 working for someone else to help Marwan along while basically setting things up for puppet prez Logan who comes into play more in season 5 while revealing the russians to be major players in the conspiracy to stop peace and increase war peofiteering....which leads to season 6 showing that Logsn was answering to jack's bro and dad being huge players in the conspicacy too...flash to season 7 where tony reveals the kills made at the beginning of season 5 were orchestrated by a whole freakin illuminati style inner sanctum of which will patton was thought to be the leader by tony but was revealed to b only a piece...soooo here we are last 6 hours of 24...Russians agaim involved, dana walsh with a potential naked mandy level of earth-shattering info ....they reeeeeally need to blow this series wide conspiracy wide open. Oh man oh man i hope sooooooo!!!! unless they are saving it for the film?? DISCUSS!
April 19, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
You don't see how we don't see that Taylor has arguably made the right choice? Well, let me explain it to you:
1) The US just had to BLACKMAIL the Russians into backing this deal. Not really the start of a beautiful friendship there, is it?
2) What the US blackmailed the Russians with was their complicity in the attempted NUCLEAR BOMBING OF NY CITY!!!
3) Charles Logan backed this whole thing. You remember the disgraced FELON, right? Not really the guy to trust for sacrificing some for the greater good.
4) You say "they caught the Russians red-handed and the Russians would never try something like that again?" Really? In what world? The magical world of idiot? Why wouldn't they? I mean, shit, they ALMOST got away with it this time and nobody's gonna know about it. In fact, why not do it again and, if they get caught, just point out that Allison Taylor and the US government KNEW that the Russians TRIED TO KILL AMERICANS IN NEW YORK AND COVERED IT UP!!!
5) Ever heard of the notion that "it's not the crime; it's the cover-up?"
6) Is it really your firm belief that a peace treaty negotiated by blackmailing one of the participants based on their clandestine plot to blow up NY with a dirty bomb and their assassination of a federal agent is an "agreement which would bring peace to a country where thousands die each year and they have been fighting for over a hundred years?" You sound like the kind of guy who bases a marriage on serial infidelity at a T.J. donkey show.
7) Russia is punished because they have to go through the agreement now?!?!? LOL! Whew! I bet they're really sweating balls on the horrible implications of backing a peace treaty. That certainly seems like a fitting punishment for trying dirty bomb NY and assassinating a federal officer. What do you suggest as punishment had they succeeded - a thirty-minute time out and no dessert?
8) Also, "they can be blackmailed for all eternity?" The Russians? How so? Do what we say or we'll reveal that you were behind that dirty bomb plot? And how do you know this, US? How LONG have you known this, US? And you covered this up as well as the assassination of a federal agent, US? Well, yes, you caught us - but, of course, our plan didn't work. But your cover-up of what we did sure did! How you feel 'bout that?
8) Exactly how many assassinated Americans do we cover up for a CLAIMED magical peace? One? Ten? A hundred? A thousand? What about if the dirty bomb had gone off - killed ten thousand in NY? What about if we THEN found out that the Russians were behind it - is it then okay to cover up and blackmail for "Middle East peace?"
A "peace" built on LIES and INJUSTICE, blackmail and cover-up, is no peace at all. But I got a feeling that ol' Taylor's gonna be learning that real soon (and searching for some penicillin for that burning case of the "Logans" she picked up).
April 19, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
When I helped him cover-up the murder of those little boys! Ah, yes, marital bliss here! And, really, those little kids were dead no matter what - I just used the opportunity to advance the 'cause of love!
April 19, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST
by KoolerThanJesus
I think you're giving too much credit for originality and scripting to the guy that helped kill Star Trek on TV.
April 19, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
Are beating gay people to death during traffic stops! I'm gonna use this to advance the cause of "no-more-speeding-tickets-for-me!" Yay!
April 19, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST
by The Bicycle Sharer
I think this calls for me blackmailing him into backing more education funding! I'm gonna advance the cause of childhood learning over the shredded bleeding butthole of that kid! Woo hoo!
April 19, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
I didn't say season 3 was brilliant. I said you couldn't call anything after season 3 brilliant. It was the last season with any originality to it for sure, which they tossed out half way in. I almost threw in a except for parts of season 5 maybe disclaimer in there but then again, season 4 did come before 5, so it was all starting to wear a little thin by then. Season 5 was basically Season 2 2: Port of Call White House anyway. And sorry but terri's amnesia and kim's cougar are nothing compared to the shit they pull nowadays. People just let them get away with it because they throw some gunfire every episode. That cougar shit was way overblown anyway and only takes up something like a minute out of that whole season.
April 19, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST
by Dogmatic
Maybe, but gosh i hope not....i dunno if they have what it takes to finish it right but the set-up is perfect for it. 6 hours of awesomeness ahead i hope!
April 19, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST
by DanielKurland
Come on guys, they've been hinting at this since hour ten of season two.
April 20, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST
by Gislef_crow
1) She's gambling that word never never never gets out. C'mon. Even in real-life, how unlikely is that? Even if a rumor of what happened got out, and a subsequent press investigation, it'd bring down her Presidency. And if Dalia is told enough to believe, Taylor can kiss that peace treaty goodbye no matter how much will or won't stand up in court.
 2) C'mon, Taylor thinks she can really give Jack an order like this and expect him to obey. He shot his own boss in the head.
 And has anybody noticed that Cherry Jones sounds just like Bonita Friedericy on Chuck? Close your eyes and you'd swear it was the same actress.
April 20, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
I'm sorry, but not a single twist in the entire run of 24 has brought as much pain and annoyance as Terri getting amnesia which is just a completely hack lame plot in almost anything (Memento excluded). Shit, even Dana Walsh's pointless hillbilly histrionics this year at least had a semblance of action thrown in, moreso than you can say anything that came out of Terri's "I can't remember so I'm gonna sit here and chat" plotline. I thought Season 5 was very distinctively different from Season 2 if only that they had a real good sense of pace by that point (Jack putting out fires every hour while the main plot progresses), and the Logan reveal is the Uber-Mole twist that's never been topped, and the Logan vs. Jack staredown in the last episode beats out just about any chat Jack had with a bad guy in Season 2. Season 2 is great, I mentally toss back and forth between that and S7 as the silver position (Season 1 gets the bronze, 4th place) but Season 5 was when the show really fired on all cylinders.
April 20, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
Out of 24 goddamn episodes, Kim has exactly two good moments: her chat with Jack before he supposedly dumps the nuke, and when she shoots bad dad in the chest. That's it. Every single damn moment with her, as much as Cuthbert was in her jaw-droppingly hot prime, is like nails on a chalkboard. The only way to tolerate Kim's stuff in Season 2 is to view it as a very dark comedy. The guy loses his fuckin leg fer crissakes, just because he's hanging out with Kim! In Season 5, there isn't a single running plot, let alone 24 episodes worth, that irritates anywhere near the frequency that every single goddamn moment Kim has in Season 2. It's not just the cougar in Season 2 with Kim, the cougar is representative of EVERYTHING that is wrong with Kim's plot in Season 2. Season 5? No bullshit, no mess, no fuss. Great stuff.
April 20, 2010, 1:13 a.m. CST
by bullet3
Everything just clicked. It had awesome action, the pace was consistently moving, the bad guys were great (robocop and the president of the US). It was the only season that never fell into a slump about 2/3rds of the way through which every other season fell into.
April 20, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST
by DanielKurland
And fuck if this thing isn't perfect. It's giving CONSTANT answers. Wonderful writing that Louis and Danielle were never together, but it was all just Joe's family trying to help him because they loved him so much. And he's since systematically fucked everything up.
April 20, 2010, 1:30 a.m. CST
by DanielKurland
Yeah, perfect episode so far.
April 20, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST
by dailysportspages
She was the only one to notice that Jack was holding the guy hostage, she should have played dumb.
 They have established time and time again that she could give two shits about her career or the law as long as it meant protecting Jack or doing whats in Jacks best interest.

 So now President Taylor is being totally lampooned as Obama it seems.
 More interested in world affairs than in the national security of her own government.
 At least if you agree with the plonks on Fox News.

 Im guessing that means now that Jack is "going rogue" hes Sarah Palin. :)
April 20, 2010, 2:02 a.m. CST
by AlwaysThere
You will be missed. That was a good finale.
April 20, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST
by DanielKurland
Was Patty asking Ellen to be partner with her. The scene on the docks was screaming for it. We don't need to hear Ellen answer. We don't even need to get an inkling of what she would have said, but Patty has learned to respect the hell out of Ellen and I even think she sees her as a better version of herself, and it would have been the perfect end to the series.
April 20, 2010, 4:11 a.m. CST
by Imagikafan
That was an excellent finale. I'm glad they resolved the Frobisher/Krulik storyline, as well.
April 20, 2010, 4:36 a.m. CST
by liesandpicturesofalsolies
April 20, 2010, 4:44 a.m. CST
by lock67ca
Exactly right. There was nothing with Kim that even remotely tied in to the main plot. Everything could have been cut (except maybe that one conversation with Jack) and it wouldn't have been missed.
April 20, 2010, 4:51 a.m. CST
by liesandpicturesofalsolies
Okay I am aware this will be as popular as Hitler erotic fan fiction and I am also aware that the writers have admitted they were just making up terrible filler.

THAT SAID it gave Jack Bauer stakes that haven't existed in the most recent seasons of 24. Sure, you rolled your eyes when Kim got caught in a beartrap but when Jack Bauer was desperately trying to fix things you felt it more because the situation had consequences for his loved ones. It was better than "If there is a bomb and I am Jack Bauer then I, Jack Bauer, must stop that bomb." that was his whole character for later seasons. That doesn't make the Kim stuff well-written, but it was good for Jack.
April 20, 2010, 5:57 a.m. CST
by YackBacker
April 20, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
If that was the series finale, I can go away satisfied. Sure, it had its problems, but it was still among the top tier. I'm surprised Herc, who has claimed to be a fan, didn't put up a entry for it, considering the show's precarious fate.
April 20, 2010, 7:52 a.m. CST
by ZaphodBB
Last night's 24 really presented the "lesser of 2 evils" scenario well. Yes, President Taylor did make a morally unbalanced decision ... but ... it WAS for a greater good. Chaseguy sees that and recognizes the brilliant writing for what it is. Bicycle Sharer is merely preaching from the moral high ground. But sometimes making the BIG DECISIONS results in "grey area" moral thinking. In this case, YES, it's wrong that Dalia won't be told the truth ...and YES, it's wrong that the Russians won't be accosted for their involvement ... BUT ... with the peace treaty in order and regional stability achieved, isn't THAT a greater good?! I think it realistically depicted the complexities of making a "good" and "right" decision at the top level very well. There often isn't a WIN-WIN scenario for all. I don't think that Taylor is Logan's bitch at all. I think she took the time to hear Logan's words (slimey as he is) and evaluated the situation on her own (excellently acted BTW). One thing can definitely be said about last night's episode ... it promotes discussion!
April 20, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST
by BizarroJerry
Who would've thought that this late in the series, and this close to the end of it's last season, after already being canceled, that we would've had something worth sparking a political vs moral debate? Granted, the problem with doing this is it seems unlikely that this could be kept a secret. And Taylor would be finished if anyone learned that she covered up what the Russians did. You could argue on some level that she made the right call but, how many middle east peace treaties have turned out to be basically meaningless?
Personally, I think you could consider this development a indictment not of Obama or Democrats, but of presidents in general. Clinton, Bush, Obama. It is so often mentioned that presidents are concerned about what their legacy will be, almost to the point of vanity. Logan's argument along those lines is completely honest, as he admits he's doing this to salvage some half-assed legacy. As a fellow president, he played into Taylor's similar feelings.
April 20, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST
by ZaphodBB
Bizarro brought up a good point about President's ultimately thinking about their legacy. In this case, I think a bit of that comes into play ... but not from a selfish point-of-view. I think, in the end, President Taylor will end up stepping down as President as an acknowledgement of what she did to make peace possible. In her case, it's not all about furthering her political career ... it's about leaving something greater than herself in her departing wake.
April 20, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST
by BizarroJerry
"I want justice!" "I want peace!"
April 20, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST
by BizarroJerry
When she wanted to head to CTU, Ethan should've said, "But Madame President, that is the most insecure government installation in American history! You'd be safer going to the mall."
April 20, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST
by TinkerTIW
Running before the relentless pursuit of the CTU Director obsessed with his capture. Do I smell spin-off?
April 20, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST
by Amazing Maurice
LMAO!
I'd forgotten all about that cunt and clearly so did the writers.
April 20, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST
by Imagikafan
Good point about the probation officer.
April 20, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
No US president is gonna bring peace to middle east by installing the wife of a president who was already on shaky ground and was assassinated on American territory. Just BS of highest order. Jack is a flaming hypocrite though because just two eps ago he gets all righteous about soldiers not following their president, but now he is doing same damn thing!
April 20, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST
by Amazing Maurice
Fucking awesome.
The back-end of this season could be so memorable if they get it right.
Watching Jack face-slam that Starbuck hound was one of the greatest things I've seen all year.
April 20, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST
by Tall_Boy66
Seriously, that was quite satisfying and should be recognized. Starbuck gave him a good glare afterwards, too.
April 20, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST
by henrydalton
I have to say, that was a brilliant episode. After last week's I was seriously ready to give up on Season 8 altogether. But somehow, maybe through sheer law of averages alone, they've managed to put out the first truly classic episode in Season 8. Too many great bits to mention, but the 'angel and devil' argument with Logan and Shawshank over Taylor's soul in the White House was the standout :) Hope they keep this building up to the finale - it won't save Season 8 as a whole, but at least it'll go some way to giving 24 the send-off it deserves.
April 20, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST
by henrydalton
"I want justice!" "I want peace!" and slammin' Starbuck... Jack finally getting to a point of NO RESISTANCE from authority for most of the ep - Chloe heads up CTU and Chase, who last we saw was going to shoot Starbuck himself, is put in charge of keeping Jack in control when interviewing her? Awesome :D
April 20, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST
by henrydalton
Prinze Jr. They're all fucking interchangeable CTU meatheads anyway.
April 20, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST
by Amazing Maurice
these last few episodes have been great and this final endgame could produce some of the most memorable Jack moments ever.
Hope it goes out in epic style.
April 20, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST
by MrMysteryGuest
April 20, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST
by MrMysteryGuest
April 20, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST
by I Hope You Die
Goddamn fucking awesome.
April 20, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST
by chromedome
"Dammit! It's 'NUCLEAR' not 'nookyalur'! Dammit! I've been sayin it wrong for all these years. Why didn't anyone tell me?!??! WHO WERE YOU WORKING FOR?!?!??!"
April 20, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST
by Oldnewbie
So much for me saying how great it was to see Jack finally working with instead of against the powers that be. I am sick and tired of Rouge Jack. Eight bad days of him always fighting the power. The producers must really hate the United States. And let me guess... the "24" movie will be set in Europe (that we know) and will be all about Jack evading the US and Russian agents out to get him for what he does in the next few hours. Then just as he thinks he's made it, out pops the evil Chinese guy from whatever season it was saying "Ah, how nice to see you again Mr. Bauer"!!
April 20, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST
by GasPain
I recall last year Shermdawg swore he would never ever watch 24 again... Yet here he is with yet another case of chronic verbal diarrhea. Way to stick to your convictions buddy.
April 20, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST
by Nem_Wan
When Logan flipped out at the Secret Service agent who gave him the skunk eye, I recalled that Richard Nixon, 11 years after his resignation, and a year after a law was passed allowing him to do so, refused further Secret Service protection that he was entitled to for life, and hired private security. Nixon said he wanted to save taxpayers' money.
April 22, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST
by the__natural74
Nem_Wan> I was actually looking to comment on that scene too, and looking if anybody else caught it? Seems like that was the opening for Agent Pierce to show up!

 Logan: "What the hell is HE doing here?!?!" Jason Pillar: "What? You told me to get rid of that guard, Agent Pierce was the only guy off duty in NY with nothing else to do. Plus, he's the only dude to be in this dang show every season other than your buddy Jack Bauer! It's not like he'll play an important role or anything Charlie, take it easy. He won't be on-hand during a critical situation, just because fans love it and always want more Aaron Pierce, ok?"
April 22, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST
by the__natural74
Caught him in the teaser for next week. Loved him as a baddie in Jericho, hope he's a villain here too!


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May Updates: HTML5 Activity Viewer, Comment Stream, Peak Distances and More
This month brings several new features to TrainingPeaks and we've got some great stuff for both athletes and coaches. I am particularly excited about this month's update because it demonstrates the beginning of our efforts to transition from Flash to HTML5. As I have said in a past blog post, we will continue to make investments in new features within our main Flash app as a prototype of future enhancments, but we're going to start making the transition to HTML5 soon. As in now. So let's get to the good stuff!
HTML5 Activity Viewer
When we started out porting our popular activity viewer from Flash to HTML5, we knew we didn't want to compromise. We didn't want something that just looked good, but wasn't analytically functional. We needed to build something that allowed for killer analysis, and looked amazing. We've never been in the business of putting out watered-down tools – we aim to bring all the steak and sizzle that our customers expect. The end result was the most functional activity viewer on the Web.
On our HTML5 activity viewer you can see laps and peaks for the workout, select segments on the graph to get a full set of stats, and share your activity on Facebook and Twitter. We also added a cool social feature: the ability to add public comments to any activity using the Facebook Comment plug-in. Our activity viewer works beautifully on iPhone, iPad, Android and of course on Mac and PC. We'll be featuring several stages from the Amgen Tour of California and the Giro d'Italia this month, so stay tuned for some great insight into what makes the pros pro. Be sure to leave comments and kudos for the pros, they love seeing your feedback!
Note that we are rolling out the HTML5 activity viewer in limited amounts, so you'll only see it if you are viewing a shared activity from a non-Flash compatible browser (such as iPhone). If you want though, you can edit the URL of any shared workout and change the "sw" in the URL to "av" to see the new version.
We have a lot more HTML5 goodness in store, so I mean it when I say this is just the beginning. We'll be undergoing the transition for quite a while, but it's the first step in that direction.
Post-Activity Comment Stream
Ok, finally, I can check this one off my list. We get frequent feedback from coaches about the inability of our system to leave comments on a workout after an athlete has made a comment of their own. Well, we now have a fully functional comment stream, and it's available in the main app as well as our mobile friendly site. The new comment stream is dead simple: we simply tag each comment with the date and name of the person making the comment. Now, coaches and athletes can have a comment stream all saved within the context of a workout.
Coach's Tip: Client communication entirely through your smartphone
It gets better. The comment stream, combined with our new post-activity notification email and the new HTML5 activity viewer, enables a whole new workflow between coaches and athletes. I'll describe a typical workflow for a coach:
Sunday night, you fire up TrainingPeaks.com on your laptop. You've got your main computer, a big external monitor, and you use all that screen real estate in a power planning session with our Coach Edition. You plan out all your client schedules for the week with our simple drag and drop calendar and your custom built workout libraries. Boom, hard work is done, schedules are in. Off to bed.
The rest of the week, as your athletes complete their workouts, you receive post-workout email notifications with summary stats included, along with a link to each activity's public viewer. You check the email on your phone, click the link to view the workout, then hit the "reply" link that takes you to our mobile website, where you log some comments back to your client, specific to how that workout went.
The athlete then receives a notification email of your comments, and they repeat the process by replying through the mobile site to your comments. Did you catch that? The communication with your clients happens entirely on your smartphone! You can keep tabs on your clients all via email and our mobile web app. I really think these changes will dramatically affect your ability to service your clients. Note that the notifications are only available for your Premium clients, but the comment stream itself is available to all clients. And yes, your client can change their email settings and turn off the notifications if they choose.
Peak Distances
File this one under "should have had this 10 years ago" also. It took a while, but we now show some great data for run workouts/races: peaks by distance! You can see your peak pace by distance when looking at the File Viewer in the app. Stay tuned for more ways to use these on the Dashboard in upcoming updates.
Planned stats now available in workout templates
Last month, we updated the QuickView interface and added 7 more planned data fields. Previously, we only allowed you to have a planned distance or duration; last month we added planned TSS, IF, Calories, Energy, Speed, Pace and Elevation Gain. This month, we allow you to add all those planned stats to your workout templates, and then store them in your workout library to be used again and again:
When you build a workout template and drag it onto the calendar, it will now pre-populate every planned stat automatically. Likewise, if you are on the Calendar, and you save a workout to your Library, it will save with all planned stats. A huge time saver for scheduling workouts that you repeat regularly, such as recovery days.
Wrapping up
We've made a few other more subtle changes, some UI tweaks and a host of bug fixes. Stay tuned next week during the Tour of California for some great shared racing data, and as always, look for more new features next month. Some big things are in store. If you have any questions or comments, don't hesitate to reach out to our support team and check our what's new page for the full list of new features.

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Have you ever had a "Run In" with The Law? It doesn't matter if it was a traffic stop, something more criminal or if you called the police to file a report. One of the very first things that officer did was get your photo identification and radio records for a check of your personal record. I know exactly why they do it and I am sure you do too. What I am about to tell you is how this first critical step relates to your future in the trades and how it will improve your chances for survival. So sit down, relax and keep your hands where I can see them & don't make any sudden movements.
Before we get to the how this relates to construction, please be patient and allow me to get you into the right frame of mind for a moment.
In case you didn't already know, I will let the cat out of the bag. Police "run us out" most importantly for officer safety. Their survival depends on knowing who they are dealing with, and what that dispatcher tells them will affect how they interact with you from that point forward.
If you are clean as whistle you are probably going to see an officer in his best possible mood. Now If you are known to fight, resist arrest, carry drugs, weapons or so on and so forth your day is about to go downhill in a hurry. BUT it's fair! Everybody rides on their own reputation.
Blue Collar Black Book has put itself in a position to be your "dispatcher". You, the tradesmen, or contractor are in the position of the Police Officer. It doesn't matter if you are licensed or doing side work we have you covered because if a client will exploit the weakness of one of us they will exploit any of our weakness. Which leaves your client to be the "Person of Interest".
Now that we know our roles, let us clear up the picture. Some clients are great and some clients are terrible but most are in between. Until now, tradesmen and contractors have had no way of knowing who was good or who was bad without first hand experiences, unless you live in a small town where you know that customers reputation by word of mouth. For a cop this practice could easily get you injured, killed or lead you to being more forceful than was necessary out of self preservation.
Poor Intel in the Construction Trades creates Headaches
Problems such as clients with: bad attitudes, who pay late, fail to ever pay, threaten to sue, have unreasonable expectations, who will low ball you, beat you up on the price, shop your bid or find any number of ways to make your professional life miserable. We have a very short period of time to make an accurate assessment of the clients character and potential for risk before we get the job and it's real easy to overlook some warning signs when you are getting all the information you need to get your bid together or do the work. You are distracted. The same as a police officer is distracted by his duty.
Even in situations where a client was referred to you things can go bad. In my experience it is less likely but it does happen. The fact is that personal relationships are different from professional working relationships. Which would you trust more, somebody vouching for a personal relationship where nothing is on the line or another tradesmen giving a first hand account of what they went through with the same client.
What Blue Collar can do for your Contractor Business
So here is how it works. Bluecollarblackbook.com is a network of tradesmen and contractors that are dedicated to protecting their self, their business, their trade and their industry from bad customers. Our users post reviews of their customers (both good and bad). Then when a user gets a new client, the tradesmen or contractor logs into the site (either on a land line or mobile) searches the client by name and finds out if anybody has any experiences with them. It's exactly the same system that law enforcement uses except the information is all provided by tradesmen, exclusively for tradesmen and the information is specific to problems we face in our industry with our clients. IT'S INFORMATION ORGANIZED.
Some Blue Collar Black Book users ONLY put in Bad clients. We understand, the bad ones we never forget and when we get burned, it hurts. Other users put in their favorites. I put in everybody!
Blue Collar Black Book Customer Reviews are not about singling people out. It's about everybody being accountable for their own reputation. Protecting each other from clients that prey on the vulnerabilities of all of us.
Even a small contractor can do a hundred thousand dollars in business a year
If you get stiffed on one job for 2 thousand dollars, that is 1 to 2 percent of your annual revenue. How many times are you willing to risk letting that happen when Blue Collar Black Book has now given you the means to protect yourself. Did I mention it's FREE and it's built exclusively for Tradesmen.
At the end of the day, you can rely on your gut, your instincts, a magic 8 ball, a crystal ball or whatever type of hocus pocus trickery you believe in or you could get yourself and your business some cold hard facts and make some educated and informed decisions. It's only right that if you take some information you give some information but Blue Collar Black Book users work on the honor system. The choice's are all yours.
But for now..... You are free to go. Stay safe my friends.


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We are proud to announce that KDE Brainstorm has hit 1000+ ideas. You can find the brainstorm section at brainstorm.forum.kde.org.
The brainstorm forum area is maintained by the Brainstorm Moderator team and our very own KDE Developers. In recent past, our team members einar and Hans formulated and worked on the Brainstorm Digest, and have given us a round of detailed and useful statistics.
Our next step would be to further improve the Brainstorm experience. Quite many changes are already scheduled (can be found at the brainstorm forum with tag [brainstorm]), but we are looking for more! So if you have any ideas related to KDE Brainstorm, we would be glad to discuss it.
Haven't posted your ideas about KDE yet? Do it now!


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When you go into one of your hubs, you should see Messages on the left under Hub Navigation. Once on the Messages page, click the New Message button on the right. You will see radio buttons for Send as Announcement or Send as Discussion.
Announcements are one-way messages to the entire group. They are designed for newsletters, general announcements and short, instant notifications like, "Ball game cancelled tonight because of weather." By default, an administrator is the only person in the group allowed to post announcements.
To access drafts and existing templates, click on the Filter by Status on the right and select Drafts or Templates.
An announcement can be received via e-mail and/or text message depending on each member's Personal Settings under Hub Settings.
To create an announcement, select your recipients by clicking the Select Recipients button. By default, a message is sent to everyone. Then enter your subject and message content.
You can add videos, images and links to the text box using these instructions.
Your videos and images will need to be stored somewhere in your MemberHub site in a photo album or folder. Some people make a newsletter images folder. In this example, we will click on the picture we want to include in our message and then click Copy Link on the upper right. A pop-up will appear with your link. Click on the icon to the right of the link to copy it to your clipboard.
Go to your message and click on Insert or on the picture symbol on the toolbar.
As an example, if you click on Insert/edit image you will see the following box.
Paste the image link into the Source field and your picture will appear in the text box.
To insert images stored in Dropbox, copy the public Dropbox link to your clipboard and change the end of the url/link from ?dl=0 to ?raw=1.
If you are familiar with including source code you can click on Tools and Source Code.
For announcements, the texting option is available and you are able to click the Copy Text from Email Message button to copy the first 160 characters in the email.
You can then Post Message, Save as Draft or Save as New Template.
Discussions are created the same way as Announcements, however texting is not an option. Recipients of discussion messages can reply to all and the messages will be saved in the hub. Discussions do not have the option to expire, but you are able to delete them as needed.
Each hub has its own email address. Sending an email to that address will automatically create a new discussion and record the thread in the hub. Look on the right side of the Messages page and you will see the discussion board email address. If you are the hub administrator, you can customize the e-mail address on the General tab of Hub Settings.
Need to send your message later? Announcements and Discussions have an option to publish at a later date by clicking the checkbox for Schedule/post message automatically, all buttons are removed except the Schedule Post button.
When the date and time for the scheduled message is completed, selecting Schedule Post will save the message and post it at your selected date/time.
You also have the option to have the announcement expire at a certain date and time in order for it not to display any more inside the hub.


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POMPANO BEACH — Parking fees will be used to pay for a $460,000 parking lot to serve the beach at North Riverside Drive and Northeast Fourth Street, city officials decided Tuesday.
The 6.3-acre facility, on the drawing boards for four years, should be completed by May, said city Planning Director Fred Kleingartner. It will provide about 400 parking spaces, landscaping and a passive park alongside with picnic facilities.


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As United Nations inspectors fan out across Iraq - looking for evidence of Saddam Hussein's secret arsenal - the United States is rethinking the future of its own weapons of mass destruction.
Among the issues being discussed by US officials and the experts who advise them in this era of stateless terrorism and other forms of "unconventional warfare" are these: The resumption of nuclear weapons testing; ambivalence over controlling chemical and biological weapons at a time when advancing technology offers new opportunities to control the battlefield; and the possible development of tactical nuclear bombs to go after the kind of hardened targets that more than 70 countries - especially Iraq - now use to hide their most threatening weapons.
All of this would be happening even if the terrorist attacks of 9/11 had not occurred, even if war with Iraq were not as close as it is today. But the earthshaking events that have marked the beginning of the 21st century focus attention on the most intimidating military assets belonging to the world's lone superpower.
The US hasn't test-fired any nuclear devices since 1992. Officials figure it would take two to three years to be ready to resume testing. The administration wants to reduce that to a shorter period - not only to ensure that its aging stockpile of warheads is dependable, but also to allow the testing of any newly designed weapons.
The Pentagon's congressionally mandated Nuclear Posture Review calls for a "revitalized nuclear weapons complex that will ... be able, if directed, to design, develop, manufacture, and certify new warheads in response to new national requirements; and maintain readiness to resume underground nuclear testing if required."
More recently, a senior official urged reconsideration of the 10-year US moratorium on testing.
"We will need to refurbish several aging weapons systems," said defense undersecretary Edward Aldridge in an October memo to senior nuclear policymakers. "We must also be prepared to respond to new nuclear-weapon requirements in the future." Congress recently authorized the nation's nuclear weapons labs to weigh the benefits and costs of being able to test such weapons within six months.
While highly precise conventional arms - laser-guided bolts from the blue - made headlines in Afghanistan, many experts say they will never completely replace nuclear weapons.
"To ensure that enemy facilities or forces are knocked out and cannot be reconstituted, attacks with nuclear weapons may be necessary," the National Institute for Public Policy in Fairfax, Va., reported last year.
"The United States may need to field simple, low-yield, precision-guided nuclear weapons for possible use against select hardened targets such as underground biological weapons."
Several of that report's authors are now officials in the Bush administration, including Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and Defense Science Board chairman William Schneider.
One of the attractions of small nuclear weapons, in the eyes of some theorists, is that they can more effectively destroy biological or chemical stockpiles than can conventional explosives.
In Geneva recently, Stephen Rademaker. US assistant secretary of state for arms control, said he was "very pleased" with international adoption of measures to strengthen the Biological Weapons Convention. He warned, however, that the 1972 treaty banning such weapons is "inherently unverifiable." This implies that the US needs to know as much as possible about any biological or chemical threats it may face.
The difficulty here is that even preparing to defend against such weapons requires research on the weapons themselves. In its examination of biomedical sciences and the pharmaceutical industry - both involved in Pentagon projects - the Federation of American Scientists reports that "an immense amount of time and money [is] being invested" in new technologies that could "significantly complicate the control of chemical and biological weapons."
Arms-control advocates also worry that defending against such weapons - especially those in underground bunkers - may increase the pressure to develop small,tactical nuclear weapons.
At this point, although official discussions have escalated, there is no rush to resume a nuclear arms race that had abated in recent years.
"Candidly, I cannot detect any plausible nuclear warfighting scenarios in the 'axis of evil' context," says John Pike, director of Globalsecurity.org, an analysis organization in Alexandria, Va., (referring to Bush's characterization of Iran, Iraq, and North Korea). "I am guessing that much of this is a discussion about [China]."
As is often the case with what could be a politically wrenching change in military strategy and doctrine, those in uniform tend to be more cautious than their civilian bosses. "In my experience, there is little to zero interest among military leaders in actually using nuclear weapons," says Larry Seaquist, a retired Navy warship captain and Pentagon strategist. "They recognize that nuclear employment, by breaking the half-century taboo since the two weapons used [on Japan] in 1945, would take us into a whole new world."
"They also recognize that the calculus of nuclear weapon use is totally different in these rogue-nation situations like Iraq than it was in the cold war," says Captain Seaquist. In other words, the old balance-of-terror nuclear regime of "mutual assured destruction" that kept the United States and the former Soviet Union from blowing each other up doesn't necessarily work with rogue states such as Iraq or with stateless terrorist organizations such as Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda.


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Hidden Hydra
Spoiler alert?
Hydra has infiltrated one of the most impenetrable organizations on the planet. This shirt is a reminder than nothing is safe from their grasp. It's the Hydra logo tearing out from behind another logo we know and love.
"Hail, Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a limb, and two more shall take its place! We serve none but the Master - as the world shall soon serve us! Hail Hydra!"
- The Hydra Oath from Strange Tales #135 (Aug. 1965)
Nothing is safe from Hydra. They work from the inside out. They infiltrate, they multiply, and they are everywhere. Wear this shirt as a warning to others. Trust no one. Not even yourself.
Hidden Hydra design on a navy 100% cotton shirt. Machine wash cold. Tumble dry low or lay flat to dry. Imported.


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Call me naive. But I still am occasionally surprised that George W. Bush keeps getting away with his dog-ate-my-homework presidency. The latest example was his press conference a few days ago, his first since March.
The headlines focused on Bush accepting responsibility for the dubious sentence in his state of the union speech, in which he reported that Saddam Hussein (according to the Brits) had been shopping for uranium in Africa. But at the press conference, Bush said nothing about how that line had made it into his speech–whether it had been inserted because his aides were so eager to make a case for war that they were willing to exploit unconfirmed information the CIA had opposed using. Bush quickly shifted to hailing his decision to go to war against Hussein.
During the press conference, Bush several times uttered the most disingenuous statements to defend the war. These were remarks that cannot withstand scrutiny. But it's good to be king (or president). You don't get laughed out of the room–or a rose garden–no matter what you say. Here are three examples:
Question: Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to al Qaeda were a key part of your justification for war. Yet, your own intelligence report, the NIE [National Intelligence Estimate], defined it as–quote "low confidence that Saddam would give weapons to al Qaeda." Were those links exaggerated to justify war? Or can you finally offer us some definitive evidence that Saddam was working with al Qaeda terrorists?
Bush: Yes, I think, first of all, remember I just said we've been there for 90 days since the cessation of major military operations. Now, I know in our world where news comes and goes and there's this kind of instant–instant news and you must have done this, you must do that yesterday, that there's a level of frustration by some in the media. I'm not suggesting you're frustrated. You don't look frustrated to me at all. But it's going to take time for us to gather the evidence and analyze the mounds of evidence, literally, the miles of documents that we have uncovered.
Hold on. The question was not what new evidence Bush had to back up his previous allegations. The question was whether those earlier allegations had been supported by any evidence when Bush was using them to rally popular support for war. For months prior to the invasion, Bush repeatedly charged that Saddam Hussein was directly in cahoots with al Qaeda. That was supposedly why the Iraqi dictator could be considered a direct and imminent threat to the United States. In November 2002, Bush claimed that Hussein was "dealing with" al Qaeda. In February 2003, he said that Hussein was "harboring a terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner." Days before the invasion, Dick Cheney cited Hussein's "long-standing relationship" with al Qaeda.


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Project name: Bao House
Location of site: Beijing, China
Program: Mobile House
Total floor area: 4 m2
Project by: dot Architects
Principal designer: Ning Duo
Photo credits: Yuming Bai, Vanessa Chen
Bao House is a mobile house exhibited in Sanlitun village, Beijing as part of the тGet It Louderт 2012 Exhibition. The brief is to design a mobile house which can be driven by human power. The structure was designed and fabricated by dot Architects.
Bao House is designed to be a house detached from land. Built with SPF(Spray polyurethane foam), a 2X2 metre cube is fixed on a tricycle, thus the vehicle could move around in the city streets while functioning as a shelter.
The exterior of the house is made of SPF. Fabric was deployed as exterior mold, and spray Polyurethane foam was injected. As the foam dried it expanded and produced great pressure on the fabric which was fixed to the inner wooden mold at anchor points. Each anchor point was connected by strings in order to create a secondary texture. Finally a multiple bulge outward was achieved. Bao House gets its name from this bubble-like surface, since тbaoт in Chinese means bulge.
The exterior and interior molds were tear down after the SPF dried and got its shape. The structure is light in weight and bold in appearance, water-resistant and thermal-insulated.
The interior is designed to accommodate three people, with a mattress on the floor and a trans- parent Polycarbonated panel on the roof. The simple layout provides peace and tranquility, as the skylight pours into the pure white solitary space.
The front side of the Bao House is a 2mX2m sliding door. When the door closes the house has a monolithic looking. When the door opens the house gets a maximum access to the surrounding environment.
The light-weight structure guarantees the mobility of the Bao House. The tricycle is driven by manpower, and could be easily transformed into other clean energy driven vehicle.
SPF is a spray-applied insulating foam plastic that is installed as a liquid and expands many times its original size when exposed to air. Spray polyurethane foam is the king of building materials for multitasking: insulation, air barriers, roofing, etc. Having so many characteristics, SPF always conceals behind the finishing surface and functions only as supplementary material though. Bao House tries to explore this common material and re-interpret it in a new fabrication system. The bubble-like surface of Bao House is only the first step, and we are looking forward to design more Bao-products with more interesting ideas applied


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Troup County Roads & Engineering
100 Sam Walker Dr.
LaGrange, Georgia 30241
Phone: 706-883-1713
Fax: 706-883-1607
Office Hours: Monday-Friday, 7 a.m.- 4 p.m.
Hillcrest Convenience Center
30 Hillcrest Road
LaGrange, GA 30241
Tues-Sat 7a.m.-7:30p.m.
Abbottsford Convenience Center
40 Abbottsford Road
LaGrange, GA 30240
Tues-Sat 7a.m.-6p.m.
Cattle Barn
3610 Hogansville Road
LaGrange, GA 30241
Tues-Sat 6:30a.m.-7p.m.
Gray Hill Convenience Center
65 Gray Hill School Road
West Point, GA 31833
Tues-Sat 6:30a.m.-5:30 p.m.
Oak Grove Convenience Center
85 Oak Grove Road
LaGrange, GA 30241
Tues-Sat 6:15a.m.-5:15p.m.
Mobley Bridge Convenience Center
2601 Mobley Bridge Road
Hogansville, GA 30230
Tues-Sat 6:45a.m.-6:45p.m.
Knott Road Convenience Center
80 Knott Road
LaGrange, GA 30241
Tues-Sat 6:15a.m.-6:30p.m.
Reed Road Convenience Center
172 Reed Road
West Point, GA 31833
Tues-Sat 6:45a.m.-5p.m
Liberty Hill Convenience Center
1504 Liberty Hill Road
LaGrange, GA 30240
Tues-Sat 7:15a.m. -6:15p.m.
711 Old West Point Road
LaGrange, GA 30240
Mon-Sat 7a.m.-6p.m. / Sun 1p.m.-6p.m.
Work Camp Hamilton Road Convenience Center
2490 Hamilton Road
LaGrange, GA 30241
Daily 7a.m. -6p.m.
Troup County C + D Landfill / Mountville Convenience Center
174 Parmer Road
LaGrange, GA 30241
Mon-Fri 7a.m.-5 p.m.
Every time you go to the grocery store you are likely to be buying products in packages made partially or entirely of recovered materials. Almost all cereal, cracker, and cake mix boxes are made of 100% recycled paperboard. Steel cans and glass bottles also contain high percentages of recovered materials. Paper towels and tissues may be made entirely or partially of recovered
At the office supply store there are choices to make. Whether you are looking for copier paper, printer paper, fine writing paper, envelopes, or toner cartridges, there are likely to be products made partially or entirely of recovered materials, so be sure to read the labels. Look for the highest percentage of recycled content you can find.
No matter where you live, you probably have access to recycled content products in your stores. These four materials almost always have a significant amount of recycled content even though many such products are not often labeled a "recycled":
· Steel, including food cans, cars, appliances, bicycles, furniture
nails...anything made with steel;
· Aluminum, including beverage cans;
· Glass bottles and jars;
· Paperboard products such as cereal boxes, mailing containers, jigsaw
puzzles, and game boards.
Wherever you are, at the hardware store, auto supply store, shoe store, pharmacy, or shopping center, you are likely to find products made of, or packaged in, recycled material. These products may contain recycled content:
· Paper Products -- facial tissues, toilet paper, paper towels, napkins, corrugated card-board boxes, writing paper, greeting cards, copier and printer paper, and office paper products.
· Plastic Bottles -- bottles and jugs containing liquid laundry detergent, dishwashing liquids, shampoos, and household cleaners.
· Other products -- re-refined motor oil, fiberfill for sleeping bags, carpeting, pencils, recycling bins, clothing, building insulation, wallboard, tile, and many more products.
Read the labels!
Here are two definitions you may see when looking for recycled content
· Pre-consumer content refers to material such as factory trimmings, damaged or obsolete products, and overruns generated by manufacturers. Such materials have been recycled for decades.
· Post-consumer content refers to material that has served its intended use and has been recycled by a consumer or business. By looking for the highest post-consumer content you can find, you help build demand for material collected in community and office recycling programs.
On November 15, Keep Troup Beautiful is joining organizations across the US to celebrate America Recycles Day. Troup County residents can support America Recycles Day by simply by signing a pledge card that says they will increase their individual efforts to recycle and buy recycled. For more information contact Keep Troup Beautiful (884-9922) or go to www.americarecyclesday.org.


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Can you design with your gut?
I found the discussion/comments on this Elegant Hack post - Good Gut so thought provoking I had to post my own 25 cents worth. How much do you trust your 'gut' when it comes to usability evaluations or design? Post your comments on Christina's site.


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Why Five a Day?
OK! So in the UK we're told we need to eat 5 fruit and veg a day. It's a bit simplistic admittedly but it points the general population in the right direction and gets them in the mindset that they need to be eating fresh food and a healthier diet.
5 a day really, in my opinion should be the minimum. In the US they say 9 a day! Doesn't have the same ring to it, for us, at least, since 5 has been drilled into us since the NHS started a health campaign with the cancer charities way back in 1991.
Anyone reading my blog will be interested in health anyway so I don't need to bang on about the numerous health benefits to fruit and veg – the vitamins, minerals, digestive benefits, slow release carbs, non processed foods etc etc etc. You know all that.
But what I will point out is – be varied with your choices. Each plant has a different make up and composition so keep it varied, opt for different varieties, try new recipes and ways of eating them, get creative.


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